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Hanging Garden was released in 2005.
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After I make a film, I never rewatch it.
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So it's been I7 years since I've seen this.
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So I'm quite nervous.
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I had always wanted to make a
family themed film.
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And I was able to make one after coming
across the novel 'Hanging Garden'.
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The first cut is...
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this elaborate lampshade
in the kitchen.
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Adorned with a painting of Babylon.
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Here...
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we're moving the lampshade from above.
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While the camera is filming it spin
then starts moving away.
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The Hanging Gardens are
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a place in the city of Babylon which
were said to be made by Queen Semiramis.
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And the painting of them here
was an idea which came from the novel.
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As the camera moves away you
can see that it's just a lampshade.
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And...
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this film was, how do I say,
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the theme of the film was a 'circle,'
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and everyone involved
was aware of that.
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Here's Kyoko Koizumi
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She was around 40 then.
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Kyoko Koizumi, a former pop idol
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playing a normal housewife
sounds a bit off.
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When I asked her agency about it
I was told off actually.
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But was something she wanted.
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Something she wanted to try.
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So,
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I offered her the role
and she accepted with delight.
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Though actually, before this Koizumi
and I had spoken about working together.
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She asked me to come for a drink,
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and coincidentally I had the
'Hanging Garden' novel with me.
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Actually I hadn't read it yet, but I
asked her if she was interested in it
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so gave it to her to take
home and read, I think I did.
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Kyoko Koizumi was married, but got
divorced just before we started filming.
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So maybe that had something
to do with her appearing.
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Actually I got divorced when finishing it.
So maybe it's that sort of film.
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The person speaking now is Itsuji Itao,
who is a comedian.
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Someone like Itsuji Itao playing the
husband of Kyoko Koizumi...
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...is quite amusing.
I think it was quite unique casting.
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The boy in the back...
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in the film Pornostar, there was a
character called 5 Star Pussycat
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a crazy character played by Leona Hirota.
He is her son.
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After this film he said he was going
to quit University to become an actor
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but I don't know if that
actually happened.
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Sitting opposite to him is
Anne Suzuki.
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She's very famous and has been
acting since she was a child.
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She appeared in my film 9 Souls
when she was I5.
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So for this film Anne must
have been around 17.
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She must be in her 30s by now.
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In Japanese households it's the job
of the father to take out the trash.
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9 and 6, I chose those numbers
for symmetric balance.
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Filming took place in the outskirts
of Tokyo in a place called 'New Town.'
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A sort of town which had government
funded housing projects and apartments.
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I searched all over for it.
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When I was looking for a perfect
place to represent the film
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I decided on this apartment which
I found during location scouting.
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We went and knocked on the door of it
and spoke to the tenants,
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then asked them to rent it to us
and we were able to decide on it.
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This is that 'New Town.'
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There were a lot of problems
with that 'New Town.'
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Some problems with its development.
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But that story doesn't have
any relation to this film.
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A great shot with dandelions.
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The person speaking to Anne Suzuki
here is Ryo Katsuji.
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A long time after this, we worked
again together on Crows Explode.
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This balcony was a set made
in a studio.
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The voice you can hear on the TV is
Seiji Chihara, who is the brother of
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Koji Chihara, the lead actor
of Pornostar.
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Just his voice.
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A TV show we made to use
in the film.
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Kyoko Koizumi was still young then.
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Right now she's working
as a film producer
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and also as a theater play producer.
On the other side of the camera.
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So a little closer to that side.
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The image of seeing the blue sky
through a bug-eaten hole in a leaf.
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In my house I have a sakura tree
with leaves full of holes from insects.
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I used to look at the sky
through those holes.
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And I thought that image would look
great in a film.
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This was done by CGI,
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but I was able to do it.
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The film as a whole deals with
people's deep anxieties.
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So to express that I wanted the
camera to move a lot like this.
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Things like that
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are not too often used
in films.
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The cinematographer was Junichi Fujisawa,
who worked on many Seijun Suzuki films.
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He had a hard time with this.
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This is a 'New Town' in Chiba.
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This film's music was by
Kazuhide Yamaji.
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He composed it specially for the film.
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He did the music for many of my films
including Pornostar and 9 Souls.
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The piano was done by Yumiko Ohno
from the band Buffalo Daughter.
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I believe. Maybe it was Yamaji.
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Yamaji composed the music,
a music engineer named ZAK mixed it.
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We worked together to properly
mix everything into the music you hear.
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The camera's really moving.
On purpose, obviously.
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Putting that Ferris wheel
in the shot was very hard.
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Then you see it here.
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We were able to film this
Ferris wheel which is actually here.
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Families often ride them, don't they?
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I often think of families when
thinking of Ferris wheels.
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So I included it.
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Bam and fly away.
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This zoom shot was done with
the help of work done after at the studio.
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You can't zoom this far normally, so we
used 2 lenses and blended two shots.
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Once zoomed back the camera
was moved in a circle.
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It continues to spin around.
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Now the title appears.
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It's hard to do commentaries
on my own work.
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Well, I had a choice of not doing it.
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The person who designed the title
also did the titles for all my older films.
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Osamu Ohashi was his name.
He did all my films before.
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Recently Danko Iida from Seppuku Pistols
has been doing them by hand.
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They're both so young.
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Anne Suzuki was 17 and
Ryo Katsuji was around the same age too.
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Ryo Katsuji was married to AKB 48's
Atsuko Maeda, but got divorced recently.
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There are lots of divorces here.
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At this time he was new and
not such an adept actor,
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but now he's in loads of films
as a great supporting actor.
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Anne Suzuki...
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As a child actress she even
appeared in a Hollywood film
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as well.
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She was...
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a great actress already back then.
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And a nice person.
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The music playing in the background
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is a song made by Kazuhide Yamaji
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which was arranged to sound
like something that plays in theme park.
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It's Michiyo Okusu.
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Hanging Garden was the first time
we worked together.
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A legendary actress, from films
like Zatoichi.
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She also appeared in some
films of Seijun Suzuki
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and Yasuzo Masumura.
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A top actress.
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Playing Kyoko Koizumi's mother
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was perfect casting, I thought.
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She's been kind to me
even since before I debuted.
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This was the first time we could work
together and I was so happy about it.
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She also appeared in my film
I'm Flash after this.
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Smoking in a hospital...
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you couldn't even imagine
such a thing nowadays.
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But during that time there
were people like that.
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This is a line I added at the time.
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Soba restaurant.
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Dattan Soba Restaurant.
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After 17 years, watching my film again
really makes me think about a lot.
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This is Asami Imajuku.
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She's a model,
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who had one scene in 9 Souls
as Kiyohiko Shibukawa's girlfriend.
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In the fashion scene
at that time she really stood out.
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She was a famous model.
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After she appeared in my films she went
on to appear in a few films I believe.
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She had a starring role in one.
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She's a very nice person.
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And she's very...
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stylish.
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Kyoko is quite cute here and still young.
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If she heard me saying that she'd get mad,
but I don't think she'll listen to this.
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So I said it.
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He's a comedian from the
Yoshimoto agency.
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I hang around with comedians.
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I used to hang around a
lot with them
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and I found him at some point.
Though I don't know where he is now.
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This is Shinsuke Suzuki.
He was in Pornostar and 9 Souls.
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He was also in
The Miracle of Crybaby Shottan.
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He's quite a unique actor.
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It's the Wild Monkeys hotel.
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This is actually...
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a set. Something we worked
hard to make.
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But there's a real love hotel
around there called Monkeys
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A famous love hotel around there.
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Room number
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609, again.
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The same number as their apartment.
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On purpose.
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Very psychedelic wallpaper.
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We designed this wallpaper.
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In fact, we made a variety of new
designs for wallpaper
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This is all a set.
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We built this set at Nikkatsu's
studios and filmed there.
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In Japan they have these
places called love hotels.
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This is quite an old
fashioned type of one though.
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As it has a spinning bed and mirrors.
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I think foreigners who come to Japan
would have fun there. They're cheap too.
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Each room has different themes too.
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I forgot the film had a sex scene.
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The bed's spinning.
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I've never been to a love hotel
which has a spinning bed.
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But that's another story.
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Anne Suzuki...
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with the mirror in shot it means
we shot this from below.
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Filming up at the mirror
and zooming in.
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The cinematographer and I
spoke a lot about each shot.
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Talking about shooting
one way or another.
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This teddy bear...
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was quite popular back then.
I think it's mentioned in the book too.
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Innocent, but also...
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a bit strange.
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Quite strange.
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Not so cute. Is what I felt.
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Amazing duvet cover and
the pictures behind.
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Oh yeah,
the inside of this drawer, too.
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the art department worked hard
to make various designs.
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This song is 'Dogs and Cats'
by Kazuyoshi Nakamura.
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I loved this song.
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So I asked permission to use it
and it was granted.
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This is Hiromi Nagasaku.
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After this film, she also appeared in
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another film adapted from a Mitsuyo Kakuta
novel in which she played the lead role.
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Itsuji Itao.
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The first time we worked
together was on 9 Souls.
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Since I was in high school...
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he was known as a famous comedian
and I was a big fan of his.
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After 9 Souls he also appeared in
The Blood of Rebirth, Hanging Garden
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and many other films of mine.
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3 years ago he directed a film
called Hibana (Spark)
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and I was asked to write
the script for that.
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Because it's Itsuji Itao...
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is why I wrote it.
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He directed a few films as well.
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Recently his work acting in films has
become more than his comedian work.
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So he shifted his lifestyle and work
to be more on film sets.
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Does he still appear on TV?
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I don't really watch TV so
I'm not sure.
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The atmosphere is starting to boil over.
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We shot this scene at a real
Thai restaurant in Roppongi.
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There are these great sculptures
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in there.
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That's why I chose it.
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The nipple song.
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A lot of people asked me if
I had sung it, but it wasn't me.
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But it was sung by someone with the
same surname as me, Michinori Toyoda.
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A friend of mine.
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A song called 'Love Hotel in the Rain.'
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This is actually Itsuji Itao
performing alone.
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That's a comedian for you.
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In the next room, 608 of the love hotel
your father is having sex.
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Those things sometimes happen, maybe?
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We kept on filming under
the evening sunlight.
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Oh, this convenience store.
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When we filmed here, the local
Yakuza turned up.
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They tried to make us pay.
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So we stopped filming...
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Though at that time Kyoko Koizumi
was quite strong-willed.
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She said to them
'Huh?You got a problem?'
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We got rid of them in the end
and finished filming.
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Being told to pay
while trying to shoot a film...
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probably only happened that one time
during my whole career making movies.
251
00:25:31,364 --> 00:25:33,533
Though they were pretty
simple-minded Yakuza.
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Even in this 'New Town''...
253
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there are Yakuza. But paying them off
was cheap, just around $400 or so.
254
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Though maybe I've said too much.
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We paid them and they left.
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The family in
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Yuzo Kawashima's film
The Graceful Brute.
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00:26:05,232 --> 00:26:08,068
Is what I tried to give
a similar feeling of.
259
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:15,200
This sort of hard to see shot
looking through these bars
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is something I wanted to try.
261
00:26:20,872 --> 00:26:26,920
This was shot through the gap
in the side part of the apartments.
262
00:26:27,462 --> 00:26:30,840
Here's that song again,
'Love Hotel in the Rain.'
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This is his way of not showing
where he actually lives.
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It might be in subtitles,
but 'Viagra' is written on the sign there.
265
00:26:56,783 --> 00:26:58,910
How do you explain Viagra?
266
00:27:03,206 --> 00:27:05,917
A drug to give you a hard on.
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00:27:07,961 --> 00:27:11,381
A bit of symbolism.
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She's returned.
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Hanging Garden was invited to play
at various international film festivals
270
00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:32,819
and this scene always got a big reaction.
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In various places.
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In Greece the audience went wild.
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00:27:54,174 --> 00:27:58,762
During this time....
Maybe it would be different now
274
00:27:59,012 --> 00:28:01,931
but having Itsuji Itao and
Kyoko Koizumi
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not really a love scene,
but being in bed together,
276
00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:13,485
was quite a shocking scene
for Japanese audiences.
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00:28:15,153 --> 00:28:19,574
While filming this scene
Kyoko kept on laughing out loud
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00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:25,872
the more and more Itsuji Itao
started to get closer to her.
279
00:28:30,335 --> 00:28:35,548
I told Itsuji Itao to push
his cock against her body
280
00:28:35,965 --> 00:28:38,843
but Kyoko Koizumi
burst out laughing.
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00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,932
So I told him to hold her leg.
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00:28:46,226 --> 00:28:50,939
There were just loads of
mistakes from Kyoko Koizumi,
283
00:28:54,192 --> 00:28:56,236
so she asked if she could take a break.
284
00:28:59,364 --> 00:29:03,535
But she's skillful isn't she,
the way she bats him away.
285
00:29:04,494 --> 00:29:07,247
This is how it's done.
Though I'm no expert.
286
00:29:12,877 --> 00:29:14,337
He's very sprightly.
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00:29:27,976 --> 00:29:31,688
The setting of a husband
who is always raring to go.
288
00:29:39,446 --> 00:29:43,658
The person who designed the CGI
289
00:29:44,451 --> 00:29:47,370
was So Hashimoto from
the art department.
290
00:29:47,662 --> 00:29:50,957
Nowadays he's quite
famous for his work
291
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:55,545
in art direction over
many films in japan.
292
00:29:56,504 --> 00:29:58,173
At this time he was just an assistant.
293
00:29:58,715 --> 00:30:04,387
He worked on both my films Crows Explode
and The Miracle of Cry Baby Shottan.
294
00:30:09,184 --> 00:30:10,685
Oh, it's Sonim.
295
00:30:18,151 --> 00:30:21,279
Sonim was born in the Kansai area
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00:30:24,324 --> 00:30:26,910
and was in a pop idol group.
297
00:30:30,246 --> 00:30:35,168
But she hadn't really appeared
in many films before.
298
00:30:36,419 --> 00:30:38,087
Though she can act well.
299
00:30:39,756 --> 00:30:40,715
After this...
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00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:45,762
she focused her work on becoming
an actress who appears in musicals.
301
00:30:46,262 --> 00:30:49,557
For example, starring in musical films
and singing in them.
302
00:30:50,308 --> 00:30:53,770
So that's the path she ended up on.
303
00:31:16,918 --> 00:31:21,798
Anne Suzuki was such a big name
that scenes with her eating snacks...
304
00:31:24,509 --> 00:31:26,052
...were complicated to film.
305
00:31:26,261 --> 00:31:31,683
As she was appearing in lots of snack
commercials sponsored by certain brands.
306
00:31:34,811 --> 00:31:40,108
But I made her eat something
which wasn't easy to specify the brand.
307
00:31:40,441 --> 00:31:43,903
I was told she could only eat snacks
from the companies she was promoting.
308
00:31:44,195 --> 00:31:45,405
But it's not like...
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00:31:47,198 --> 00:31:49,617
we were getting money
from those companies.
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00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:08,177
The two from the soba restaurant. Asami
Imajuku and... what was his name?
311
00:32:13,016 --> 00:32:17,687
He was working as a TV personality,
but I haven't seen him anywhere lately.
312
00:32:18,479 --> 00:32:21,232
Or maybe it's just that
I'm not looking.
313
00:32:37,832 --> 00:32:41,169
It's an old-style phone,
but the way he twirls it...
314
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,926
is something we did
in a commercial before.
315
00:32:48,676 --> 00:32:50,219
So we did it again.
316
00:33:38,518 --> 00:33:43,064
Kyoko Koizumi
really has a perfect smile.
317
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:06,421
I can't say he was an adept
comedian back then.
318
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:23,521
Kyoko Koizumi is great in this scene.
319
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:50,882
The feeling of...
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00:34:52,175 --> 00:34:53,134
metal.
321
00:34:56,888 --> 00:35:03,478
I wanted to try out things that hadn't really
been done before, like this.
322
00:35:06,606 --> 00:35:10,401
Did we use fake blood here?
No, it's CGI.
323
00:35:21,954 --> 00:35:23,915
A blood-soaked face suits her.
324
00:35:46,062 --> 00:35:49,524
I think the film was R-rated
because of that scene.
325
00:35:53,945 --> 00:35:55,738
Film rating is unavoidable.
326
00:36:15,716 --> 00:36:17,969
Kyoko Koizumi
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00:36:20,805 --> 00:36:23,808
is very talented with
this sort of reaction.
328
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:28,813
Eita has appeared.
329
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,241
During this period, he wasn't so...
330
00:36:42,493 --> 00:36:46,789
well-known, which happened afterwards.
He made his debut in Blue Spring.
331
00:36:47,540 --> 00:36:50,793
And continued through to
9 Souls and then this.
332
00:36:51,586 --> 00:36:52,545
After this...
333
00:36:54,547 --> 00:36:57,592
he appeared in various TV shows
334
00:36:58,259 --> 00:37:00,219
and became a big name.
335
00:37:06,475 --> 00:37:08,686
He's still famous nowadays.
336
00:37:12,857 --> 00:37:15,693
This song is from Johannes Brahms.
337
00:37:22,325 --> 00:37:25,953
While I was looking for various music
to fit the Babylon theme
338
00:37:27,371 --> 00:37:30,791
I found Serge Gainsbourg's
'Baby Alone in Babylone,'
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00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:34,629
which uses the music
by Johannes Brahms.
340
00:37:38,925 --> 00:37:44,889
And is sung by, not Charlotte...
Jane Birkin that song.
341
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:51,437
The original music came from a
symphony by Johannes Brahms.
342
00:37:52,813 --> 00:37:56,817
I really liked it and thought it
would match this film well.
343
00:38:00,613 --> 00:38:02,949
I searched for a LP of it
344
00:38:04,408 --> 00:38:05,785
and got the rights.
345
00:38:09,997 --> 00:38:15,711
The person who designed this tatoo is a guy
called Han who had a shop in Shibuya.
346
00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:18,005
Han drew this on.
347
00:38:20,132 --> 00:38:26,222
The trousers he's wearing...
are from Sao Paolo in Brazil.
348
00:38:28,724 --> 00:38:30,268
From a tattoo artist
349
00:38:32,478 --> 00:38:36,857
named Jun Matsui.
That's what he's doing for a living.
350
00:38:37,233 --> 00:38:43,239
There's even a documentary film
about him.
351
00:38:44,282 --> 00:38:48,869
He's famous as a tattoo artist,
but he made these trousers too.
352
00:38:49,495 --> 00:38:52,123
At first we asked him if he
could do the tattoo design
353
00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:55,960
but either he was busy
354
00:38:56,585 --> 00:39:00,381
Or we just thought it would be
better if Han did it.
355
00:39:03,718 --> 00:39:04,927
Is what I was told.
356
00:39:08,222 --> 00:39:12,727
This belt is also from him.
357
00:39:37,376 --> 00:39:39,754
Eita changes a lot when he drinks.
358
00:39:42,882 --> 00:39:46,177
Not so much at this time,
but very much so nowadays.
359
00:39:52,141 --> 00:39:55,311
There are lots of issues
that people have,
360
00:39:55,311 --> 00:39:57,521
so it's a bit pointless to talk about it.
361
00:40:10,868 --> 00:40:12,578
'Happy Birthday' is written.
362
00:40:26,926 --> 00:40:28,803
My image was of being reborn.
363
00:40:30,888 --> 00:40:36,310
I totally forgot if that was
in the original book or not.
364
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:42,566
I don't remember which parts were my
ideas and which were from the book.
365
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,363
The original story was
written by Mitsuyo Kakuta
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00:40:47,613 --> 00:40:51,534
as part of a short stories collection,
367
00:40:53,869 --> 00:40:57,415
which featured different stories
about each member
368
00:41:00,209 --> 00:41:01,168
of a family.
369
00:41:02,169 --> 00:41:05,840
So when I adapted it into a screenplay
370
00:41:06,590 --> 00:41:08,884
I mixed up all the stories into one
371
00:41:11,178 --> 00:41:13,472
and fleshed it out.
372
00:41:14,098 --> 00:41:18,644
Adding in my own ideas
and various aspects
373
00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:22,022
So it can be seen as something
completely different,
374
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:24,775
which is what it became.
375
00:41:25,693 --> 00:41:29,155
Blue Spring was the same.
It was part of a short stories collection.
376
00:41:30,990 --> 00:41:33,742
So putting that into one complete story
377
00:41:34,535 --> 00:41:39,331
and adding in my original ideas is
something which I did during that time.
378
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:46,714
I made this film when I
was around 34 years old.
379
00:41:47,047 --> 00:41:50,009
I was 35 when it was released.
380
00:41:57,683 --> 00:41:59,602
Scary situation, isn't it?
381
00:42:29,131 --> 00:42:31,884
Your mistress in your home
is like a horror film.
382
00:42:40,851 --> 00:42:45,731
The flowers which are on the table
changed a lot.
383
00:42:48,734 --> 00:42:53,072
The florist would make
new ones for each scene,
384
00:42:54,490 --> 00:42:56,867
which was arranged symbolically.
385
00:43:04,166 --> 00:43:06,919
The car stopped at the edge.
386
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:12,550
It was supposed to fall off,
but stopped at the edge,
387
00:43:15,469 --> 00:43:18,347
which made me feel that
the luck was on my side.
388
00:43:35,948 --> 00:43:40,911
Kyoko Koizumi was truly disgusted
by Sonim's clothes and attitude,
389
00:43:41,412 --> 00:43:43,497
like she was his real mother.
390
00:44:19,908 --> 00:44:23,829
The shot is a bit out of focus
but I liked it anyway.
391
00:44:25,122 --> 00:44:27,625
So I chose to use this take.
392
00:44:33,047 --> 00:44:37,551
The first day of shooting,
if I remember correctly
393
00:44:40,179 --> 00:44:42,848
was in this location I believe.
394
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:46,393
And this was the first scene to film.
395
00:44:52,149 --> 00:44:54,485
With opening the drawer...
396
00:44:58,989 --> 00:45:02,701
I told her to open the drawer
and find a photo inside.
397
00:45:03,577 --> 00:45:08,999
And this is actually a photo
of Kyoko Koizumi when she was a child.
398
00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,545
I didn't tell Kyoko Koizumi beforehand
and snuck that photo in.
399
00:45:14,672 --> 00:45:16,924
I wanted to see her reaction
400
00:45:18,717 --> 00:45:20,094
so I didn't tell her.
401
00:45:26,684 --> 00:45:30,020
Kyoko Koizumi and I had
402
00:45:30,813 --> 00:45:35,984
this non-stop psychological
battle to keep the tension between us.
403
00:45:37,236 --> 00:45:39,446
I wanted to heighten
that with her childhood memories
404
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,038
by blending in what actually happened
in her own real life
405
00:45:48,872 --> 00:45:50,249
and the character.
406
00:45:53,335 --> 00:45:54,962
I tried very hard with that.
407
00:46:00,259 --> 00:46:02,886
It's a world I'm unfamiliar with myself.
408
00:46:04,722 --> 00:46:09,893
For a woman, the relationship
with her mother
409
00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:17,943
is something a man wouldn't
understand, I think.
410
00:46:20,738 --> 00:46:25,701
Those things we wouldn't understand
are of course explained in the book
411
00:46:27,786 --> 00:46:31,373
and that's why I wanted
to adapt this book.
412
00:46:31,623 --> 00:46:34,918
It's a story I couldn't write myself.
413
00:46:37,713 --> 00:46:39,923
A mother-daughter relationship.
414
00:46:48,515 --> 00:46:52,352
This is the voice of Takuji Suzuki
who appeared in 9 Souls.
415
00:46:52,770 --> 00:46:54,354
He's a film director now.
416
00:46:56,607 --> 00:46:58,317
He's made a bunch of films.
417
00:47:04,573 --> 00:47:06,617
I asked him to provide his voice.
418
00:47:29,431 --> 00:47:33,393
The cinematographer is Junichi Fujisawa
and lighting is Nariyuki Ueda.
419
00:47:34,061 --> 00:47:38,482
They worked together on
Seijun Suzuki's films.
420
00:47:38,774 --> 00:47:40,442
His latter ones.
421
00:47:52,538 --> 00:47:55,082
Camellia and a well.
422
00:47:58,126 --> 00:48:01,463
That was the last shot we filmed.
In a studio.
423
00:48:02,881 --> 00:48:04,591
We reproduced that location there.
424
00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:08,846
When we had finished shooting
everything else.
425
00:48:09,638 --> 00:48:10,973
We used water jets
426
00:48:12,641 --> 00:48:14,101
and filmed it, I think.
427
00:48:45,966 --> 00:48:49,261
This... this cut here.
428
00:48:52,055 --> 00:48:57,060
That scene between Kyoko Koizumi
and Michiyo Okusu was nerve-wracking.
429
00:49:09,406 --> 00:49:11,992
It was shot during the earlier stages.
430
00:49:13,368 --> 00:49:15,746
Kyoko Koizumi was trying to
throw up for real.
431
00:49:18,415 --> 00:49:22,127
I told her she shouldn't
eat lunch beforehand.
432
00:49:49,571 --> 00:49:53,241
With the flowers in bloom it must
have been spring when we filmed it.
433
00:49:53,867 --> 00:49:55,160
I painted the key red.
434
00:50:20,018 --> 00:50:24,272
This is set when she's 15, so she
was a little worried it would be okay
435
00:50:24,898 --> 00:50:26,942
with her being 40 at the time.
436
00:50:27,943 --> 00:50:29,820
I said 'It's not a problem'
437
00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:34,658
with confidence, I remember.
438
00:50:37,869 --> 00:50:39,121
Fried eggs.
439
00:50:43,333 --> 00:50:45,002
Sort of a Hitchcock style.
440
00:50:45,419 --> 00:50:49,006
While the camera was being spun around
441
00:50:49,673 --> 00:50:54,636
using 2 axis, and film
while also panning the camera,
442
00:50:55,887 --> 00:50:57,848
was pretty hard to do.
443
00:51:01,059 --> 00:51:06,523
When you see like this it looks
seamlessly connecting together but
444
00:51:08,942 --> 00:51:13,238
while we were filming it, I was wondering
if it really would work with editing.
445
00:51:14,614 --> 00:51:18,618
While shooting, I just thought that it
would be possible, and it ended up okay.
446
00:51:27,252 --> 00:51:28,670
She's a high schooler.
447
00:51:43,351 --> 00:51:46,688
Itsuji Itao's haircut is amazing.
448
00:52:05,290 --> 00:52:09,669
The way he pulls her. He's really funny.
449
00:52:21,056 --> 00:52:23,850
That psychedelic look is great.
450
00:52:32,692 --> 00:52:36,947
This is one of my favourite
shots in the whole film.
451
00:52:50,418 --> 00:52:52,337
This shot is...
452
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,175
the last shot we did with
Kyoko Koizumi.
453
00:53:07,686 --> 00:53:09,771
Shooting from behind
454
00:53:10,605 --> 00:53:14,693
and then picking up and holding
the kids wasn't rehearsed
455
00:53:18,196 --> 00:53:19,823
but they loved it.
456
00:53:24,077 --> 00:53:27,622
For this shot the kids were crying
so much, it was hard to do.
457
00:53:28,915 --> 00:53:31,251
Especially the one Itsuji Itao
is holding.
458
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:39,718
Well, babies will do that if they're
separated from their mother
459
00:53:40,343 --> 00:53:41,887
and held by some guy they don't know.
460
00:53:45,348 --> 00:53:49,895
From a video spinning constantly, then
coming to a stop gives the feeling...
461
00:53:52,355 --> 00:53:55,192
that it's still spinning.
462
00:54:18,215 --> 00:54:21,384
A view from behind the bookshelf
463
00:54:22,677 --> 00:54:23,720
sort of feeling here.
464
00:54:27,307 --> 00:54:31,144
The way of changing up the way
each shot is positioned,
465
00:54:33,563 --> 00:54:34,773
is what I often do.
466
00:54:40,445 --> 00:54:43,406
I was thinking at what point
shall I add the bird's-eye view.
467
00:54:48,203 --> 00:54:51,373
I thought if it showed their food
then the audience would realize
468
00:54:52,165 --> 00:54:53,959
that it's dinner time.
469
00:54:58,296 --> 00:55:00,590
Rice with beans and miso soup.
470
00:55:05,095 --> 00:55:06,972
They're all improvising here.
471
00:55:12,352 --> 00:55:15,647
She's laughing for real
because she stuttered.
472
00:55:18,525 --> 00:55:25,282
I thought this scene would really give the
best example of them as a real family.
473
00:55:28,285 --> 00:55:30,412
The pre-decided dialogue
474
00:55:31,121 --> 00:55:34,332
was said by Sonim only.
Only that.
475
00:56:16,458 --> 00:56:18,293
Sonim's very flexible.
476
00:57:15,850 --> 00:57:18,603
Well, how do I put it?
477
00:57:18,812 --> 00:57:24,526
The type of household
which has a middle-class income
478
00:57:25,944 --> 00:57:27,862
was the house it was set in.
479
00:57:28,822 --> 00:57:30,907
Quite big with a kitchen counter.
480
00:57:32,075 --> 00:57:33,743
I wonder how much rent was?
481
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:49,217
This was the first film that
Masahiro Hirota appeared in
482
00:57:52,554 --> 00:57:56,307
Kyoko Koizumi has appeared in loads
of TV shows and films
483
00:57:56,933 --> 00:57:58,476
so she's taken him in.
484
00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:02,564
To the way she's acting.
485
00:58:05,775 --> 00:58:09,279
Acting across from someone
who is doing it for the first time
486
00:58:10,905 --> 00:58:12,907
gives quite a fresh feeling.
487
00:58:14,576 --> 00:58:17,912
Is something she said was
very interesting.
488
00:58:21,082 --> 00:58:23,710
Itsuji Itao's doing something here
489
00:58:26,171 --> 00:58:28,798
His character had a foot fetish.
490
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:43,229
For this, because Sonim
was an idol at that time,
491
00:58:43,730 --> 00:58:47,150
we had to ask her boss what would
be okay for shooting this scene.
492
00:58:48,401 --> 00:58:49,360
We had to ask.
493
00:58:49,569 --> 00:58:53,364
Michiyo Okusu is smoking here.
She's quit now apparently.
494
00:58:54,657 --> 00:58:59,245
The person on the left is a member
of staff from Phantom Films.
495
00:58:59,954 --> 00:59:02,123
He also appeared in Blue Spring.
496
00:59:03,291 --> 00:59:04,501
His name's Sato.
497
00:59:13,801 --> 00:59:16,638
He's just a worker for
a film distribution company.
498
00:59:28,233 --> 00:59:30,568
That's the first time Michiyo Okusu
has acted like that.
499
00:59:36,324 --> 00:59:39,911
There's a legendary story that
on the set of a Seijun Suzuki
500
00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:44,457
Michiyo Okusu set the assistant director's
hair on fire with a lighter.
501
00:59:45,833 --> 00:59:48,086
I wanted to bring that same energy here.
502
00:59:54,926 --> 00:59:56,844
Michiyo Okusu was how old then?
503
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,097
This was 17 years ago.
504
01:00:02,308 --> 01:00:03,643
Around 60 I guess.
505
01:00:04,435 --> 01:00:09,107
Maybe I shouldn't have said that.
She's the same age as Sayuri Yoshinaga.
506
01:00:14,237 --> 01:00:15,738
Looks young though.
507
01:01:03,328 --> 01:01:06,914
She really wears that kimono well.
508
01:01:29,395 --> 01:01:30,938
Sonim is...
509
01:01:33,358 --> 01:01:35,068
very physically strong.
510
01:01:37,195 --> 01:01:38,863
She's quite powerful.
511
01:01:44,285 --> 01:01:46,829
She could easily crush
an empty can.
512
01:01:49,832 --> 01:01:53,044
She can easily do it.
She was into boxing I believe.
513
01:01:54,754 --> 01:01:56,923
She learned it for a TV show.
514
01:02:23,116 --> 01:02:26,035
You can see her physical strength here.
515
01:03:01,112 --> 01:03:03,364
Someone like Michiyo Okusu
getting angry is scary.
516
01:03:29,724 --> 01:03:33,478
Sometimes Michiyo Okusu and I
517
01:03:36,647 --> 01:03:38,608
go out for a meal together.
518
01:03:39,317 --> 01:03:42,820
It surprised me that someone
like her
519
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,115
would do these gestures.
520
01:03:50,244 --> 01:03:55,666
For this, she tried out a few ways
of acting this scene beforehand
521
01:03:58,461 --> 01:04:00,922
and we discussed a bit then shot it.
522
01:04:01,923 --> 01:04:04,425
I thought, if you're gonna go that far
523
01:04:06,552 --> 01:04:10,389
should you really go this far?
Well, she could and did.
524
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:13,226
I remember that feeling.
525
01:04:19,649 --> 01:04:23,319
Michiyo Okusu said to me that she'd
never been to a love hotel before.
526
01:04:24,445 --> 01:04:26,405
She said 'Are they really like this'?
527
01:04:37,291 --> 01:04:40,336
Apparently she's really into Korean
TV dramas at the moment.
528
01:04:46,467 --> 01:04:48,928
She once asked me to
get a ticket for TVXQ,
529
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,516
when they played at Tokyo Dome.
I did it for her.
530
01:04:59,856 --> 01:05:03,192
The windows in Love Hotels
don't open.
531
01:05:04,527 --> 01:05:08,823
Maybe to stop people escaping
or it's just dangerous.
532
01:05:18,708 --> 01:05:25,631
We waited for the sun goes down to
film this scene with a back-light effect.
533
01:05:26,424 --> 01:05:27,717
Luckily the sun appeared.
534
01:05:29,677 --> 01:05:31,470
This is a great shot.
535
01:06:05,338 --> 01:06:09,175
The eyes of Anne Suzuki, even
at the age of 17, were so pure.
536
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,929
Kyoko Koizumi said that while acting.
537
01:06:14,138 --> 01:06:16,223
Having such pure eyes
538
01:06:17,767 --> 01:06:20,144
was like an invitation for
something to happen.
539
01:06:22,188 --> 01:06:24,315
Maybe because she was still in her teens.
540
01:06:59,725 --> 01:07:03,980
As the 'New Town' was a bit
away from the center of Tokyo
541
01:07:05,022 --> 01:07:08,651
the sunset was beautiful.
542
01:07:08,859 --> 01:07:10,611
Near the mountains too.
543
01:07:13,614 --> 01:07:17,785
This is her entering a totally
barren apartment
544
01:07:23,290 --> 01:07:24,250
So,
545
01:07:26,752 --> 01:07:29,130
when the shooting was
546
01:07:31,424 --> 01:07:33,551
totally finished,
547
01:07:34,593 --> 01:07:36,262
we removed everything inside.
548
01:07:37,596 --> 01:07:38,973
And we shot this in the studio.
549
01:07:42,601 --> 01:07:44,645
Though the next cut was
550
01:07:45,855 --> 01:07:48,482
done on location.
551
01:07:50,026 --> 01:07:50,985
As you see.
552
01:07:58,242 --> 01:07:59,994
This was real.
553
01:08:01,370 --> 01:08:06,709
Though making a shot like this for real
is actually quite hard to do.
554
01:08:11,922 --> 01:08:15,551
The camera is on an angle
with a telephoto lens.
555
01:08:15,968 --> 01:08:21,432
Then on top of that you shake it as
at that time there were no stabilizers.
556
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,685
Of course, we shot it on film.
557
01:08:25,603 --> 01:08:26,562
So,
558
01:08:27,938 --> 01:08:30,983
You set it up and swing the camera.
559
01:08:31,734 --> 01:08:33,319
It was hard to do.
560
01:08:35,196 --> 01:08:38,240
If you've time it's not as tough,
but we didn't have much.
561
01:08:59,512 --> 01:09:02,139
Michiyo Okusu acting by herself.
I gave her free reign.
562
01:09:03,057 --> 01:09:04,725
Just decided on the concept.
563
01:09:10,564 --> 01:09:11,524
I...
564
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:17,738
...shot this. It doesn't feel like a film
of mine. Well it's been 17 years.
565
01:09:18,531 --> 01:09:20,157
I don't remember a thing.
566
01:09:29,708 --> 01:09:31,252
This was shot in the studio,
567
01:09:31,961 --> 01:09:34,839
so I guess they setup
the electrics for it.
568
01:09:36,674 --> 01:09:40,427
Though sometimes
it was spun it by hand.
569
01:10:10,457 --> 01:10:11,417
Here,
570
01:10:12,793 --> 01:10:16,213
this Ferris wheel is still there.
571
01:10:17,882 --> 01:10:20,009
Please go to Yokohama to see it.
572
01:10:27,933 --> 01:10:31,145
This techno music was made
573
01:10:34,231 --> 01:10:35,691
by a friend of mine.
574
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:00,799
Birthday.
575
01:11:02,468 --> 01:11:03,969
Personally,
576
01:11:04,887 --> 01:11:09,183
I don't like to have birthday celebration
on my birthday.
577
01:11:10,392 --> 01:11:11,393
To be honest.
578
01:11:20,027 --> 01:11:25,991
After starring in this film, Kyoko said
that having flowers at home is nice.
579
01:11:27,618 --> 01:11:32,623
She started to keep some flowers
at home at all times.
580
01:11:56,897 --> 01:12:01,110
During this time, Michiyo Okusu
was a real heavy smoker.
581
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:09,410
So she was happy to be able to
smoke all the time.
582
01:12:23,882 --> 01:12:29,513
She kept on messing up her lines here
as somehow she couldn't say 'masculine.'
583
01:13:09,178 --> 01:13:10,137
Oh yeah.
584
01:13:19,563 --> 01:13:21,106
This was done in I take.
585
01:13:57,476 --> 01:13:58,435
Well,
586
01:13:59,937 --> 01:14:04,691
to do this monologue as I take,
587
01:14:06,944 --> 01:14:08,570
we tried various things.
588
01:14:12,866 --> 01:14:16,662
We shot Sonim only in high speed,
the others in time-lapse,
589
01:14:17,037 --> 01:14:19,248
and shot with and without Sonim.
590
01:14:59,371 --> 01:15:00,330
This is,
591
01:15:03,709 --> 01:15:06,003
a really long take, too.
592
01:15:47,628 --> 01:15:49,671
This sort of situation is awful.
593
01:16:31,046 --> 01:16:33,131
I wonder who made that doll.
594
01:16:33,674 --> 01:16:35,175
Who was it?
595
01:16:37,052 --> 01:16:38,303
I don't remember.
596
01:16:40,472 --> 01:16:42,516
Somebody from the art department.
597
01:16:59,408 --> 01:17:01,076
This is another long take.
598
01:17:15,882 --> 01:17:20,846
This is the brother of Koji Chihara,
the lead actor from Pornostar.
599
01:17:22,139 --> 01:17:26,101
Usually the person on those
TV parts is Seiji Chihara.
600
01:18:12,356 --> 01:18:15,359
For this long take, we removed
half of the wall from this side,
601
01:18:15,651 --> 01:18:19,154
then as the camera rolled, we
put back parts of the wall.
602
01:18:22,991 --> 01:18:28,246
From the kitchen side of
the wall was removed
603
01:18:30,165 --> 01:18:32,834
so the camera could pass through.
604
01:18:34,419 --> 01:18:39,216
Then on the right side the
wall was put back... sort of thing.
605
01:18:40,008 --> 01:18:44,554
With all the cast and crew
moving along with the camera
606
01:18:44,763 --> 01:18:48,892
Kyoko Koizumi couldn't relax,
so her right foot is tapping away.
607
01:19:01,405 --> 01:19:06,159
We weren't sure if that tut
Kyoko did, was appropriate or not.
608
01:19:07,703 --> 01:19:09,037
Kyoko Koizumi
609
01:19:10,288 --> 01:19:13,125
revealing her rebellious side
she had in her youth.
610
01:19:13,917 --> 01:19:16,712
But I thought that was good.
611
01:19:18,046 --> 01:19:22,884
But for this long take, the person who
messed up the most was Michiyo Okusu.
612
01:19:27,556 --> 01:19:30,517
By the most, it was still
just 2 or 3 times.
613
01:19:34,062 --> 01:19:37,232
I was sort of happy a person like
Michiyo Okusu could get nervous.
614
01:20:36,416 --> 01:20:42,130
One time I was out drinking
with Kyoko Koizumi often,
615
01:20:43,006 --> 01:20:46,843
around the time of Blue Spring.
616
01:20:47,511 --> 01:20:49,846
When she was speaking on the phone
617
01:20:50,639 --> 01:20:52,933
I heard her saying "drop dead."
618
01:20:53,183 --> 01:20:56,353
Her saying that was so far away
from the image I had of her
619
01:20:56,645 --> 01:21:00,315
That I thought it was hilarious
and used it in the film.
620
01:21:04,110 --> 01:21:09,449
Though the dialogue in the script
was just saying 'Die', but Kyoko
621
01:21:10,450 --> 01:21:14,454
said something slightly
different each time.
622
01:21:15,956 --> 01:21:17,165
That was funny.
623
01:21:36,977 --> 01:21:41,189
The acting between Anne Suzuki
and Kyoko Koizumi,
624
01:21:45,151 --> 01:21:50,657
Kyoko later said that "Anne got me
with those piercing eyes."
625
01:22:25,942 --> 01:22:26,902
Well,
626
01:22:31,114 --> 01:22:33,992
shooting this film was fun.
627
01:22:52,969 --> 01:22:54,888
People's memories...
628
01:22:56,932 --> 01:22:59,017
there are so many things I forgot.
629
01:23:25,627 --> 01:23:30,924
That was a 7 minute I take.
It took a whole day to do.
630
01:23:41,476 --> 01:23:43,103
It was tough.
631
01:23:46,398 --> 01:23:50,652
Though I wonder if that feeling is
coming through on this audio commentary.
632
01:24:03,873 --> 01:24:07,460
This was I take, done with the
camera circling around.
633
01:24:10,463 --> 01:24:12,424
Is how we shot it.
634
01:24:16,219 --> 01:24:18,096
We did it in 3 or 4 goes.
635
01:24:23,018 --> 01:24:27,272
I spoke to Michiyo Okusu
about a lot of things.
636
01:24:31,901 --> 01:24:36,114
And she got, not angry, but
got sort of emotional.
637
01:24:38,116 --> 01:24:42,370
We did one take where she
couldn't stop crying.
638
01:24:44,706 --> 01:24:50,045
I remember the costume director yelling
at me, saying that I went too far.
639
01:24:50,879 --> 01:24:52,630
But that was
640
01:24:54,549 --> 01:24:59,179
as this take was something where
all her emotions went into.
641
01:25:08,563 --> 01:25:10,815
After Hanging Garden
642
01:25:12,484 --> 01:25:16,863
Michiyo Okusu didn't work for
2 or 3 years I believe.
643
01:25:18,656 --> 01:25:20,492
She didn't feel the need to.
644
01:25:20,909 --> 01:25:22,869
Kyoko Koizumi too, took 2 years off
645
01:25:26,289 --> 01:25:27,373
from working.
646
01:25:28,625 --> 01:25:31,336
She turned down all offers.
647
01:25:35,006 --> 01:25:36,633
This scene really
648
01:25:38,343 --> 01:25:40,637
brought a lot of emotions out.
649
01:25:42,472 --> 01:25:45,558
I took 4 years off too,
but that's another story.
650
01:26:15,672 --> 01:26:18,174
The camera was on a circular dolly
651
01:26:18,842 --> 01:26:22,887
so we can't capture their
face expressions all the time.
652
01:26:23,096 --> 01:26:27,183
So I said, when this line was spoken
I wanted the focus on Kyoko Koizumi,
653
01:26:28,351 --> 01:26:31,980
then on that line I wanted the
camera towards Michiyo Okusu.
654
01:26:34,190 --> 01:26:38,945
I asked Junichi Fujisawa on camera
and Ono the key grip
655
01:26:43,032 --> 01:26:48,580
to adjust the moving speed
while watching their acting.
656
01:26:57,463 --> 01:27:00,049
After doing it a few times
657
01:27:02,010 --> 01:27:06,973
it became possible to do. Honing in
on specific points on their faces.
658
01:27:09,225 --> 01:27:13,062
For example, I wanted
Kyoko Koizumi's face at this point.
659
01:27:13,605 --> 01:27:15,857
so the camera should be at this point.
660
01:27:17,150 --> 01:27:20,945
We were pretty detailed in
deciding on specific points like that.
661
01:27:32,916 --> 01:27:35,335
Michiyo Okusu's lines and
662
01:27:38,004 --> 01:27:42,926
lengths, and the timings of her
blow out the candles
663
01:27:46,971 --> 01:27:48,139
were measured
664
01:27:51,768 --> 01:27:55,438
precisely while filming the scene.
665
01:28:04,155 --> 01:28:07,283
"My smile is a prayer."
This line is
666
01:28:10,453 --> 01:28:15,208
reflecting Kyoko's feeling of
her being ex-pop idol.
667
01:28:17,210 --> 01:28:19,462
So I wanted to put that in.
668
01:28:49,951 --> 01:28:53,413
There was one part of dialogue which
Kyoko Koizumi changed herself.
669
01:28:54,706 --> 01:28:57,625
That was great.
Maybe it was a coincidence,
670
01:28:58,793 --> 01:29:00,712
Or just came out from her heart.
671
01:29:10,388 --> 01:29:15,727
Blowing out the flower petals.
I can't really say it here but
672
01:29:16,060 --> 01:29:20,940
there is actually an inner meaning to
why Michiyo blew out the flower petals.
673
01:29:22,734 --> 01:29:26,446
Though it's a private
and quite personal reason.
674
01:29:27,447 --> 01:29:29,824
I can't talk about it.
675
01:29:30,533 --> 01:29:33,703
But it's something I wanted
to have in the film.
676
01:29:37,582 --> 01:29:40,168
That's Jun Kunimura.
677
01:29:47,091 --> 01:29:49,052
Only filmed from behind,
678
01:29:51,304 --> 01:29:52,513
is how he appeared.
679
01:29:57,352 --> 01:29:59,729
Though he looks to the side here
680
01:30:03,816 --> 01:30:05,860
He came all the way
just for this scene.
681
01:30:15,787 --> 01:30:17,663
He makes money out of his butt.
682
01:30:19,248 --> 01:30:20,750
Or his back.
683
01:30:24,128 --> 01:30:25,797
He was so cool.
684
01:30:54,283 --> 01:30:55,785
Amazing.
685
01:30:58,204 --> 01:31:01,707
And with that he left.
686
01:31:10,425 --> 01:31:15,138
Kids on a rope. Actually,
I saw that during location scouting.
687
01:31:23,521 --> 01:31:27,817
I know it's to stop them running off,
but it struck me as something strange.
688
01:31:43,749 --> 01:31:48,546
Filming Kyoko Koizumi here perfectly
embodied the role she was playing.
689
01:31:51,299 --> 01:31:53,134
Everything was so smooth.
690
01:31:53,551 --> 01:31:58,931
I remember the filming duration of
Hanging Garden to be around a month.
691
01:31:59,474 --> 01:32:01,225
Something around that.
692
01:32:02,768 --> 01:32:06,939
In those times, a film like this would
have cost around $3 million.
693
01:32:07,815 --> 01:32:10,818
On average, around that time.
694
01:32:16,574 --> 01:32:22,330
The dandelion fluff can be seen
on a big screen. Here they are.
695
01:32:25,458 --> 01:32:28,544
Were you to look left, you'd see
Kyoko Koizumi blowing non-stop.
696
01:32:29,587 --> 01:32:31,214
It was cute.
697
01:32:34,342 --> 01:32:35,635
Hanging Garden.
698
01:32:39,096 --> 01:32:41,933
I like the way these
two scenes are connected.
699
01:32:49,524 --> 01:32:52,735
Actually there was a scene
in between, but it was deleted.
700
01:33:04,205 --> 01:33:05,790
A song by Johannes Brahms.
701
01:33:09,585 --> 01:33:11,337
Oh, it's Kiyohiko Shibukawa.
702
01:33:15,675 --> 01:33:17,927
He was still young then.
703
01:33:21,889 --> 01:33:24,392
I just told him of the situation
704
01:33:25,893 --> 01:33:28,229
and let him think about
it and improvise.
705
01:33:29,146 --> 01:33:30,940
Is the way we did it.
706
01:33:51,752 --> 01:33:55,881
"That's for drying laundry,"
is something my ex-wife said.
707
01:33:58,384 --> 01:34:02,680
I thought it was a good line
so I used it in the film.
708
01:34:09,645 --> 01:34:12,189
Sonim really is so physically able.
709
01:34:15,359 --> 01:34:16,569
And full of energy.
710
01:34:18,362 --> 01:34:21,782
I wondered if she'd be okay as
the bus windows were quite high up.
711
01:34:22,450 --> 01:34:24,410
Especially with leather shoes.
712
01:34:27,496 --> 01:34:31,876
Inside the bus Kiyohiko Shibukawa and
Seiroku Nakazawa continued to speak.
713
01:34:36,088 --> 01:34:40,217
But as none of it was relevant to the
story as a whole I cut the sound out.
714
01:34:56,317 --> 01:34:57,902
I like its position.
715
01:35:34,855 --> 01:35:40,486
This was the last big scene we shot,
the climax.
716
01:35:43,322 --> 01:35:47,618
I thought Kyoko Koizumi looked
somehow seductive.
717
01:35:55,418 --> 01:35:57,461
Looking back at it.
718
01:36:17,398 --> 01:36:18,774
They've been arrested
719
01:36:21,819 --> 01:36:25,156
This wasn't in the original novel,
I think.
720
01:36:35,249 --> 01:36:39,044
For the housing projects, there was
this main bus which went around them,
721
01:36:39,879 --> 01:36:41,839
the path to the outside world.
722
01:36:42,757 --> 01:36:44,049
The housewife,
723
01:36:45,259 --> 01:36:46,343
and the mother,
724
01:36:47,553 --> 01:36:52,183
the role of Kyoko Koizumi was that
of someone who didn't leave home much.
725
01:36:53,267 --> 01:36:55,436
She's always at home.
726
01:36:58,898 --> 01:37:04,945
I wanted to show that situation
by using this bus
727
01:37:06,322 --> 01:37:07,865
in that way.
728
01:37:08,991 --> 01:37:14,330
In a place like here, it was very
normal for the people who lived here
729
01:37:15,748 --> 01:37:17,792
to be in that situation.
730
01:37:18,834 --> 01:37:22,588
I feel that this story was born
out of that situation.
731
01:37:24,548 --> 01:37:25,925
I think.
732
01:37:35,518 --> 01:37:39,021
If you run a business at home,
733
01:37:39,855 --> 01:37:41,357
and if school was close, too,
734
01:37:42,024 --> 01:37:44,735
this sort of story wouldn't
come about.
735
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,033
Living in these urban towns.
736
01:37:56,997 --> 01:38:01,252
I wonder how old Itsuji Itao
was at this time? Around 40?
737
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,195
Everyone was young then.
738
01:38:40,332 --> 01:38:42,877
Saying they were young
is just a memory.
739
01:38:47,923 --> 01:38:50,426
And we get close to the climax.
740
01:38:54,597 --> 01:38:56,599
We created the rain here.
741
01:39:02,229 --> 01:39:05,816
I had seen something like
this before somewhere
742
01:39:06,609 --> 01:39:08,777
So I asked the art department to make it.
743
01:39:13,032 --> 01:39:14,783
Falling flowers.
744
01:39:28,130 --> 01:39:31,383
During this scene Kyoko said she wasn't
confident in the look of her hands
745
01:39:31,675 --> 01:39:36,013
she was embarrassed and asked
us not to film them too closely.
746
01:39:58,786 --> 01:40:00,412
Which did we shoot first?
747
01:40:00,955 --> 01:40:03,540
I think we shot this first.
748
01:40:21,141 --> 01:40:24,979
On the other side of the line is
749
01:40:27,106 --> 01:40:30,359
Kyoko Koizumi, talking from
another location
750
01:40:30,901 --> 01:40:33,612
and Michiyo Okusu listening through
an earpiece in her left ear.
751
01:40:35,531 --> 01:40:37,825
That's how we filmed it.
752
01:40:43,205 --> 01:40:44,581
We filmed that
753
01:40:46,333 --> 01:40:48,919
then after we shot Kyoko Koizumi's part.
754
01:41:03,017 --> 01:41:04,727
It was that sort of shoot.
755
01:41:42,139 --> 01:41:45,225
When I spoke to Michiyo Okusu
ahead of filming this movie
756
01:41:45,225 --> 01:41:48,312
she told me lots of stories,
as I asked lots of questions.
757
01:41:49,354 --> 01:41:51,982
And we incorporated them
into the film.
758
01:41:54,985 --> 01:41:58,155
"The really important things,
you take to your grave,"
759
01:41:58,447 --> 01:41:59,782
was an example of that.
760
01:42:08,916 --> 01:42:12,002
The people who are listening to
this have already seen the film, right?
761
01:42:12,211 --> 01:42:14,838
So they know of the rain of blood.
762
01:42:18,050 --> 01:42:20,636
We built a set in Nikkatsu's studios.
763
01:42:22,387 --> 01:42:24,306
A big one.
764
01:42:26,308 --> 01:42:30,562
Maybe not so big, but a pretty
decent sized studio.
765
01:42:33,357 --> 01:42:35,317
From here is rains blood.
766
01:42:36,068 --> 01:42:40,405
Raining blood means the studio
will be covered in blood.
767
01:42:41,406 --> 01:42:43,951
The drainage system there wasn't great
768
01:42:44,910 --> 01:42:47,996
and we thought it wouldn't
properly flush it all out.
769
01:42:49,498 --> 01:42:52,793
A complaint would be made
against us by the studio.
770
01:42:53,710 --> 01:42:58,215
So I was told that everyone who worked
that day will be banned afterward.
771
01:43:01,844 --> 01:43:03,554
But we did it.
772
01:43:08,976 --> 01:43:12,729
I thought that something seemed to be
missing so added this one cut in after.
773
01:43:13,105 --> 01:43:16,859
Though this was from the time of
shooting on film, so not as easy.
774
01:43:17,317 --> 01:43:19,778
I thought the crudeness
of the shot was good.
775
01:43:21,905 --> 01:43:25,409
During editing of this scene I thought
it looked nice in black and white
776
01:43:26,743 --> 01:43:29,371
to give the feeling of
returning to the past...
777
01:43:32,082 --> 01:43:33,458
is what I thought.
778
01:43:37,504 --> 01:43:40,340
That was the last thing
I did during editing.
779
01:43:45,888 --> 01:43:47,681
And it connects to her tears.
780
01:43:48,724 --> 01:43:49,683
It's arrived.
781
01:43:52,603 --> 01:43:55,105
This rain of blood could
only be done once.
782
01:43:55,564 --> 01:43:57,733
No forgiving any mistakes.
783
01:44:01,278 --> 01:44:03,155
This was CGI.
784
01:44:05,908 --> 01:44:09,536
At one point I was told
maybe I've gone too far with it
785
01:44:10,037 --> 01:44:10,996
but...
786
01:44:12,831 --> 01:44:15,125
if you're gonna do it, go full on.
787
01:44:17,127 --> 01:44:21,548
This part here was done with
water and colored red after.
788
01:44:28,388 --> 01:44:29,348
And...
789
01:44:31,767 --> 01:44:33,810
in front of Kyoko Koizumi
790
01:44:36,813 --> 01:44:39,691
was the photo which you see here.
791
01:44:40,359 --> 01:44:45,155
This is actually one and only real-life
photo of her when she was a child.
792
01:44:45,364 --> 01:44:51,703
I made a copy of it and placed it
in front of Koizumi Kyoko for this scene.
793
01:44:55,415 --> 01:45:01,296
As I wanted her not to think of this film,
but to think back upon her own life.
794
01:45:04,716 --> 01:45:08,553
Using high-speed filming, the camera
was held by hand and rotated around her.
795
01:45:09,930 --> 01:45:12,641
At this timing they got on
a crane and went up
796
01:45:13,016 --> 01:45:15,602
but the camera went out of focus.
797
01:45:16,061 --> 01:45:18,563
But I utilized that
798
01:45:19,606 --> 01:45:23,318
and added those flashes
then connected to this shot.
799
01:45:23,610 --> 01:45:25,529
That wasn't the initial idea,
800
01:45:26,029 --> 01:45:29,616
but conversely that issue with focus
made adding these shots easier.
801
01:45:33,453 --> 01:45:37,582
Then when the camera came
back into focus
802
01:45:38,959 --> 01:45:41,169
the scene returned back to her.
803
01:45:46,008 --> 01:45:49,094
The cinematographer
and the focus puller
804
01:45:50,345 --> 01:45:52,180
got on the same crane.
805
01:45:53,056 --> 01:45:55,851
From there the crane went up.
806
01:45:58,061 --> 01:46:02,024
We did try a camera movement
but we didn't rehearse.
807
01:46:09,448 --> 01:46:12,576
If you were to rain this much blood
808
01:46:13,452 --> 01:46:18,373
of course, it could only be done
in one day and only once.
809
01:46:18,749 --> 01:46:20,500
They threatened me.
810
01:46:22,044 --> 01:46:24,463
But Kyoko Koizumi is
the type of person who
811
01:46:24,755 --> 01:46:27,215
could hit a home run on demand.
812
01:46:28,342 --> 01:46:29,968
So she's not the sort of person
813
01:46:30,969 --> 01:46:35,182
who would mess up anywhere.
I had faith in her.
814
01:46:37,267 --> 01:46:38,435
She could do it.
815
01:46:39,728 --> 01:46:40,687
And...
816
01:46:43,273 --> 01:46:44,983
I wanted to let it run
817
01:46:46,693 --> 01:46:48,236
until we ran out of film.
818
01:46:49,613 --> 01:46:53,867
Actually it ran out of film
but I wanted hear her more
819
01:46:54,701 --> 01:46:58,246
so I didn't say cut and
heard her yelling for a while.
820
01:46:59,081 --> 01:47:02,501
And we rained blood all over her
821
01:47:02,918 --> 01:47:06,338
but getting that in your throat
makes your throat sore.
822
01:47:07,214 --> 01:47:09,883
So afterward she wasn't able to speak.
823
01:47:20,894 --> 01:47:22,437
When filming finished
824
01:47:23,188 --> 01:47:25,857
and Kyoko Koizumi left the studio,
825
01:47:27,150 --> 01:47:30,570
I went to her and said
"Happy Birthday."
826
01:47:32,572 --> 01:47:33,824
I remember that.
827
01:47:43,250 --> 01:47:46,336
That ding-dong bell sound
is actually from a guitar.
828
01:47:50,841 --> 01:47:53,427
While in the studio making
the music for the film
829
01:47:55,178 --> 01:47:56,138
I added it.
830
01:48:02,227 --> 01:48:05,730
While looking at this video,
we added a ding-dong twang on guitar.
831
01:48:08,525 --> 01:48:12,028
At this point,
the song is starting to play.
832
01:48:19,786 --> 01:48:24,458
Kazuhide Yamaji who did the music
for Pornostar and 9 Souls,
833
01:48:24,708 --> 01:48:27,335
was on guitar, he composed it as well.
834
01:48:28,503 --> 01:48:30,714
The vocals were by UA.
835
01:48:33,383 --> 01:48:35,844
Akira Sutayama on drums,
Yumiko Ohno on bass,
836
01:48:36,052 --> 01:48:38,930
recording engineer was ZAK,
and recorded in one take.
837
01:48:39,973 --> 01:48:43,477
We actually did 3 takes,
but the first was the best.
838
01:48:55,655 --> 01:48:59,493
She looks great here. Totally refreshed.
839
01:49:00,452 --> 01:49:04,080
We filmed this part first,
then the rain of blood.
840
01:49:05,457 --> 01:49:06,666
The other way?
841
01:49:08,084 --> 01:49:11,588
Was it the rain of blood first then this?
Nah, couldn't have been.
842
01:49:12,839 --> 01:49:14,049
Would have been a mess.
843
01:49:16,051 --> 01:49:17,802
We did this first.
844
01:49:35,111 --> 01:49:36,071
Unlocked.
845
01:49:38,406 --> 01:49:41,243
Sound effects were by Masaya Kitada.
846
01:49:41,701 --> 01:49:44,955
He's worked on a lot of films
such as those from Shinya Tsukamoto
847
01:49:46,206 --> 01:49:47,165
He did this.
848
01:50:14,734 --> 01:50:16,528
This song is from UA.
849
01:50:19,864 --> 01:50:22,492
It was called "In the middle
of this slope" or "that slope."
850
01:50:24,703 --> 01:50:25,954
I believe.
851
01:50:27,205 --> 01:50:28,707
In the middle of a slope,
852
01:50:32,252 --> 01:50:37,716
I lost my way and crouched
on the slope, something like that.
853
01:50:38,967 --> 01:50:42,095
When this film was released in cinemas
854
01:50:43,888 --> 01:50:47,225
I was arrested for drug possession,
so its theatrical release...
855
01:50:48,476 --> 01:50:49,853
had problems.
856
01:50:50,770 --> 01:50:52,856
But I'm happy it could get released.
857
01:50:53,315 --> 01:50:55,650
Now, with this
858
01:50:56,192 --> 01:50:59,195
I'm so happy that it will get
released on bluray in the UK.
859
01:50:59,446 --> 01:51:01,698
And people will be able to see it.
860
01:51:03,658 --> 01:51:07,746
On the family tombs of Japanese people
861
01:51:08,538 --> 01:51:12,292
they actually have written down
the names of the still living.
862
01:51:13,460 --> 01:51:19,382
The people who have died are written
in white, and the living are in red
863
01:51:21,009 --> 01:51:21,968
So,
864
01:51:23,178 --> 01:51:25,472
while thinking of that
865
01:51:26,097 --> 01:51:28,975
I thought that on the end credits
of films they're rarely written in red.
866
01:51:29,893 --> 01:51:31,603
So did it like that.
867
01:51:31,811 --> 01:51:34,314
I still do that nowadays.
868
01:51:41,029 --> 01:51:43,198
It was
'In the middle of this slope.'
869
01:51:49,704 --> 01:51:53,708
Usually end credits roll from
top to bottom, but I don't like that.
870
01:51:54,125 --> 01:51:56,670
So I have them like this,
cut together.
871
01:51:57,504 --> 01:52:01,257
Films are born between cuts,
I believe that.
872
01:52:02,425 --> 01:52:05,929
Plus this way makes it possible
to match with beats of music,
873
01:52:07,472 --> 01:52:08,848
So I prefer this way.
874
01:52:12,310 --> 01:52:16,272
Having the last cut of a film
showing my name
875
01:52:17,482 --> 01:52:20,694
makes it feel that this film
is mine alone.
876
01:52:21,152 --> 01:52:23,571
But its something we all made together
877
01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:28,410
so I wanted to add something in
after the end credits finished.
878
01:52:28,785 --> 01:52:31,538
So for those people who watched
the film til the end of the credits
879
01:52:31,538 --> 01:52:34,165
would be able to feel something extra.
880
01:52:34,833 --> 01:52:36,918
So I always add one extra shot in.
881
01:52:38,670 --> 01:52:40,255
This time it's a flower.
882
01:52:41,089 --> 01:52:44,718
But for this crane movement,
I was told off by the crane operator
883
01:52:44,718 --> 01:52:49,055
who said he didn't know the rhythm
needed to match the crane movement.
884
01:52:49,639 --> 01:52:53,017
Though on set, I always carried
an acoustic guitar with me
885
01:52:53,351 --> 01:52:56,771
and played it throughout
the filming process.
886
01:52:57,188 --> 01:53:00,567
So for this the crane operator
told me to play something.
887
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:07,198
So for this camera movement I
constantly played the song you hear now.
888
01:53:08,408 --> 01:53:10,368
I had learned it from the band.
889
01:53:12,287 --> 01:53:14,539
And played it on an acoustic guitar.
890
01:53:15,498 --> 01:53:17,000
I remember that well.
891
01:53:22,714 --> 01:53:25,467
And so we return back to the lamp shade.
892
01:53:26,509 --> 01:53:28,720
I think we did a good job overall.
893
01:53:29,429 --> 01:53:31,264
A film from 17 years ago.
894
01:53:31,848 --> 01:53:33,349
Thank you very much.