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MAN ON RADIO:
<i>Well, now, the Himalay as...

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MAN ON RADIO:
<i>Well, we introduce to you this morning

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<i>Ed Hillary, a very interesting</i>
<i>personality in the alpine world.

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<i>Good morning, Ed.</i>
EDMUND HILLARY: <i>Good morning.

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<i>How many attempts have been</i>
<i>made on Everest altogether?

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<i>Well, there have</i>
<i>been at least 10.

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<i>Well, why have</i>
<i>the others failed?

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<i>A combination of circumstances</i>
<i>which hasn't been right.

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<i>Well, do you think</i>
<i>it's possible to climb Everest?

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<i>Yes, I definitely think</i>
<i>it's possible to climb it

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<i>and, well, I'm sure</i>
<i>it will be done some day.

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MAN: It's only 60 years ago, but
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and the idea that
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to stand on the highest
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is a quest, a romantic quest,

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MAN 2: There was a real race on
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And it wasn't just Britain,

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There were other nations
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This really was Britain's
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MAN: Nobody knew if someone
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Like the guys going into space,
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MAN 2: There is a physiologic limit
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I'm sure they didn't want to die,

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but you 're taking risks in which
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MAN: You are going into the unknown,

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Could it be done?

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Back in 1953, it was
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EDMUND HILLARY: I think
it's all really a matter of challenge,

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Not so much challenge
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but challenge with oneself,

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seeing if you can force yourself
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and hopefully, ultimately,
get to the top,

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VOICEOVER: <i>Members of</i>
<i>the British Everest expedition

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<i>have begun assembling</i>
<i>on the Subcontinent

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<i>where deputy leader Major Wylie

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<i>is looking forw ard</i>
<i>to the adventure to come.

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<i>We are very pleased</i>
<i>that the first stage

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<i>of our journey</i>
<i>to Mount Everest is over.

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<i>We are now off tow ards the hills.

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<i>If we get some fine weather</i>
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<i>just before the monsoon arrives

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<i>we should have a chance</i>
<i>of getting to the top.

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The first time I joined up
with the expedition

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was at the British Embassy
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We had 13 Western members
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John Hunt, a senior army officer,
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I'd really never heard
of John Hunt before

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and the first time I met him
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MAN: I was very keen
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so I had big
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I can only say that
from the moment I met Ed

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I knew that here was somebody
who would be a dominating influence,

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He was a tower of strength,

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MAN ON RADIO: <i>Mr Hillary,</i>
<i>as a matter of interest,

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<i>how long have you been climbing?

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EDMUND HILLARY: <i>Well,</i>
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<i>for altogether about 10 years.

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<i>And how many trips have you done</i>
<i>out of New Z ealand climbing?

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<i>I have already had a couple</i>
<i>of expeditions to the Himalay a.

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INTERVIEWER: You were quite strictly
brought up, weren't you?

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EDMUND HILLARY: I was brought up
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and my family was pretty
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I was just a rough
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INTERVIEWER: A beekeeper,
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lused to wander around our farm
dreaming about great adventures

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and climbing mountains
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INTERVIEWER:
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beekeeping on the one hand
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EDMUND HILLARY: Oh, not really,

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In the beekeeping, I was constantly

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lugging around
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And my brother was also
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And I think the sense of competition

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carried on to
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MAN: Well, the party were first
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Before us we had 17 days
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which is where we were going
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of high ridges and deep valleys,

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We could really get gradually fit

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and - most important -
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MAN: Everything had been
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7,5 tons of material,

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443 packages, all numbered,

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and the contents of each listed
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EDMUND HILLARY:
It is a team expedition

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and it's very much in the form
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13 Western members of the expedition,

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30 permanent high-altitude Sherpas,

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These are men who will be carrying
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Some 600 Nepalese porters

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carried loads across country
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MAN: Because there had been no less

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than seven British
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we felt that by right, the mountain
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and by extension
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The Swiss so nearly
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The Americans were
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And so there was huge
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with this colossal expectation
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INTERVIEWER: <i>Mr Hillary,</i>
<i>how many New Z ealanders

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<i>are in this year's expedition?

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EDMUND HILLARY: <i>Well, only two of</i>
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MAN: George Lowe and my father
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They had climbed extensively
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They were very good
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and had a tremendous rapport,

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MAN 2: We had 18 days of trekking

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towards the New Zealanders,

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HUNT: Kathmandu is only about

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4,000 feet above sea level,

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was an essential part of my policy

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of acclimatisation,

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MAN: The whole thing
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There was a constant fear
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"We want to be in a position
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The later in May, the more likely
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It's always a race against time,

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EDMUND HILLARY: As we got steadily
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and more and more great peaks
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And over it all towered
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only 20 miles away,

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but still 20,000 feet above us,

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INTERVIEWER: <i>Mr Hillary, you started</i>
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EDMUND HILLARY: <i>Oh, yes,</i>
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NEWSREEL ANNOUNCER: <i>And there's</i>
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<i>reaching majestically skyw ard</i>
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EDMUND HILLARY:
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to have a short trip to Mount Cook,

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The closer we got, the more impressed
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NEWSREEL ANNOUNCER:
<i>Those jagged peaks there

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<i>provide the real alpinist with some of</i>
<i>the best climbing outside Europe.

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EDMUND HILLARY: That night, inside
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I heard the whisper go around -
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These chaps were really living,

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I felt, "What a hopeless life I lead,

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"no great adventures,
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And that's when I decided that I was
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HUNT: Well, after 17 days

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our caravans arrived at the Monastery of
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PETER HILLARY: Once they got up
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so they get paid off
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and Sherpa porters take over,

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might have had previous
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in that he did have
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In fact, he really
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at climbing on Mount Everest
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MAN: Without the Sherpas
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and my father was the head man,

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People respected him,

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They knew that he had been climbing
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You know, he'd been up
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EDMUND HILLARY:
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You know, he'd done
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and I knew he was
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But I wasn't able really
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His English was very limited
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He had a flashing smile,
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It was impossible not to like him,

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In the next fortnight,
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and testing ourselves
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MAN: Well, in 1953,
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in terms of physiologic capability
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It was like sending
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They knew from altitude
experiments in chambers

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that altitude can make you seize

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and one of the ideas was that people
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because their blood vessels
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There were lots of reasons to think
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Nobody knew whether or not
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MAN: When Ed was heading
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13 people had already
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and I think that for anyone
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it would be something
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13 deaths and zero summits
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HUNT: Now, about
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looking north is the Khumbu Glacier

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where we were to place
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for the attack on the mountain,

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This icefall was to be
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and I sent a party to explore it,

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Ed Hillary led this first party,

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EDMUND HILLARY: The Western Cwm
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<i>,,a</i> tumbled mass of ice dropping
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was possible to ascend this icefall,

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The icefall was a constant hazard

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and we had no alternative
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which we knew to be unjustifiable
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MAN: It's like a waterfall
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The weight of the glacier
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It's all a jumble of ice,

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It is unstable objective danger

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that you have no control over,

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Crazy! My God, You 're dumb
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But you just can't go any other way
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MAN 2: In '52, the Swiss
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and said, "It's a thing
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for that reason,

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More people are killed in the icefall
than anywhere else on Everest,

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(CREAKING AND CRACKING)

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It's immense,
It's 2,500 feet high,

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And we had to go
up the middle of it,

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MAN 2: Ed Hillary, George Lowe,
Mike Westmacott and myself

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were the four of us chosen
to make the first route through

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in a week or five days if we <i>could,,,

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<i>,,and</i> then of course to make it safe

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by a lot of step-cutting,
a lot of fixed ropes

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so that eventually
it would be possible

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for loaded porters to carry
the stores safely through it,

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(TENSE MUSIC)

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WESTMACOTT:
The icefall was a dangerous place

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because things did collapse
without warning

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and if you were in the way,
it was a thoroughly bad thing,

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(CRACKING)

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BAND: You had
these great towers of ice

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and great lumps and strips
the size of a row of cottages

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that could slump down at any moment,

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We gave names
to the more dangerous parts,

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There was Mike's Horror,
Hillary's Horror,

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an area called the Nutcracker,
the Atom Bomb area,

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WESTMACOTT: There are <i>certain,,,

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,,what climbers call objective dangers

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which basically
you can't do much about,

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There's also a risk
of falling into a crevasse,

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BAND: We had these light
aluminium ladders about six feet long

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which we could bolt together
across the crevasses,

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And there were so many crevasses

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that we soon ran out
of all the ladders we had,

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So we had to send down
to where the nearest trees grew,

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which would be about
three days' walk away,

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to cut small tree trunks
to make little log bridges,

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(WOOD CREAKS)

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And you balanced
as well as you could,

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For us, it was clearly going to be
the only way to climb Everest,

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CONEFRE Y:
Ed Hillary wanted to please,

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He wanted to be on the summit team,

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He would've known
that only a few people

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would get a chance
to go for the summit

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so from very early on
he wanted to impress John Hunt

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and he felt there
was time pressure on him

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to recce the icefall
to get it prepared,

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PETER HILLARY: My father
was never afraid of hard work,

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but part of that was to cover
I think what Dad felt

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were a lot of psychological
or emotional inadequacies,

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He had been raised
with high expectations

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and they sent him off
to Auckland Grammar School

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two years too young,

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EDMUND HILLARY:
I was only 11 years old

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and I was rather terrified, really,

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When lunchtime came,

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I would go out
the back of the school

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and there were a whole lot
of ants living there,

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When I first went
to Auckland Grammar,

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the only friends I really had
were the ants,

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I was a dreamer
until I started climbing,

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HUNT: The icefall was really chaotic

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and yet they forced a way

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and Ed's job of route finding
was a particularly good show,

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BAND: The New Zealanders

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had a lot more snow
and ice climbing experience

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than the average European climber

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because their mountains are
very like the Himalayas in miniature,

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(SOARING MUSIC ON NEWSREEL)

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NEWSREEL ANNOUNCER:
<i>The Southern Alps -

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<i>the great mountain tangle</i>
<i>which sprawls northw ards

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<i>in an almost unbroken chain</i>
<i>of rock and ice.

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INTERVIEWER: <i>Well, Ed,</i>
<i>how do the Southern Alps

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<i>compare with the Swiss Alps?

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<i>That's where the English climbers</i>
<i>get their training.

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EDMUND HILLARY: <i>Here in New</i>
<i>Z ealand, with our terrific glaciation,

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<i>a greater amount of our climbing</i>
<i>is done on snow and ice -

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<i>in many w ays very similar</i>
<i>to the Himalay a.

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<i>They're rather different</i>
<i>from the Swiss Alps

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<i>where the predominant feature</i>
<i>for climbing is rock.

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NEWSREEL ANNOUNCER: <i>Mount</i>
<i>Aspiring, New Z ealand's Matterhorn -

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<i>a shark's tooth of a mountain</i>
<i>whose dangerous slopes

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<i>demand skill and careful climbing.

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EDMUND HILLARY:
<i>Our New Z ealand mountains

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<i>are really a wonderful</i>
<i>training ground for the Himalay a.

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VENABLES: Kiwis
have that tough resilience

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so I think that
the younger British climbers

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were somewhat in awe

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of these formidable Kiwis
brought in to reinforce the team,

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HUNT: Now, the next big doubt

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was regarding the lip
of the coomb itself

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at the very top of the icefall,

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You see, there was
an enormous, gaping crevasse,

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Could we get into the coomb?

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PETER HILLARY: The decision
on who would be going

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all the way to the top

323
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was very much
the leader's prerogative,

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John Hunt would evaluate the team

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throughout the course
of the expedition,

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So there was a fair amount of

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sort of posturing
and positioning going on

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as people tried to put
themselves in the best light

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for that sort of opportunity,

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BAND: I think
amongst the British

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there wasn't any particular
jockeying for position,

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but I think our two New Zealanders,
Hillary and Lowe,

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were perhaps rather
more straightforward

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in wanting to get
as high as possible,

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They were the sort of colonials
that would make good

336
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and we were perhaps
a little bit more inhibited -

337
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the public school type that
wouldn't push our way forward

338
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unless Hunt had said,
"Look, you 're the chap to do it,"

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EDMUND HILLARY: I'd always hoped
that George Lowe and I

340
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would be the final summit pair,

341
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but there was no time
that John Hunt, our leader,

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wanted to have two New Zealanders
stand on top of Mount Everest,

343
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So I had to look around
and find someone

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who was as fit as I was
and who could do a good job,

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Tenzing was that person,

346
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MAN: Nobody alive had more
experience of Everest,

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He really understood the value of it

348
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and how it could change his life,

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Tenzing had been very, very poor,

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He had struggled,

351
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He wanted his children
to go to good schools,

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00:26:04,047 --> 00:26:07,447
He wanted more for them
than he'd had,

353
00:26:07,447 --> 00:26:11,042
Tenzing understood
what climbing Everest meant,

354
00:26:15,287 --> 00:26:19,367
My father was a bit of an anomaly
as far as a Sherpa goes

355
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because he always
wanted to climb Everest,

356
00:26:25,607 --> 00:26:29,327
That's very unusual
for a poor kid from Tibet,

357
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So unlike many other Sherpas who
actually climb just to make a living,

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he was a mountaineer at heart,

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His drive was to go to the top
just like Ed Hillary,

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HUNT: As we walked on into
the coomb, the crevasses grew fewer

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and we realised that
the coomb itself was open to us,

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(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

363
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HUNT: We are now
established at Base Camp

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and the first problem
is to get our supplies

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up to Camp 4 high up
in the Western Cwm,

366
00:27:23,647 --> 00:27:26,447
Owing to the climbing
difficulties in the icefall,

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laden porters require
three days to reach Camp 4,

368
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CONEFRE Y: There was
this idea in those days

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of laying siege to a mountain,

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This meant you would do it
in a very systematic way -

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you would set up a camp
and you would set up another camp

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and get higher and higher,

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VENABLES: You build up
this pyramid of camps

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to get enough tents, food,
cooking fuel, oxygen -

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to get enough of those supplies
where you can rest

376
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before going up to the next stage,

377
00:28:05,887 --> 00:28:09,487
And to do that, people have
got to go up and down the mountain,

378
00:28:09,487 --> 00:28:12,407
Ideally, people go up to a camp
and then go back down again

379
00:28:12,407 --> 00:28:15,007
'cause if everyone goes up to a camp
and then stays there

380
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they then consume
all the food they've carried up,

381
00:28:36,567 --> 00:28:38,447
CONEFRE Y: People tried
to come up with solutions

382
00:28:38,447 --> 00:28:40,727
which would help the team
to get to the top,

383
00:28:40,727 --> 00:28:42,527
people from around the world

384
00:28:42,527 --> 00:28:45,407
sending in madcap
suggestions on inventions,

385
00:28:45,407 --> 00:28:47,087
Somebody had an ingenious device

386
00:28:47,087 --> 00:28:48,727
which was a type of harpoon

387
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,116
with an incendiary device
on the end of it,

388
00:28:52,127 --> 00:28:55,407
The idea was that it would
burn its way into the ice

389
00:28:55,407 --> 00:28:57,207
and give a secure holding

390
00:28:57,207 --> 00:28:59,327
so people could haul themselves up,

391
00:28:59,327 --> 00:29:02,047
Most of them were
completely crazy ideas,

392
00:29:02,047 --> 00:29:04,287
VOICEOVER: <i>My method</i>
<i>involves the use of a hand cable

393
00:29:04,287 --> 00:29:06,527
<i>laid in adv ance by aircraft...

394
00:29:06,527 --> 00:29:08,087
VOICEOVER 2: <i>With my relay w armth

395
00:29:08,087 --> 00:29:09,807
<i>personal heating apparatus,

396
00:29:09,807 --> 00:29:11,687
<i>air could be passed through</i>
<i>a heating chamber

397
00:29:11,687 --> 00:29:13,327
<i>and pumped via rubber tube

398
00:29:13,327 --> 00:29:14,967
<i>to the hands, feet and head...

399
00:29:14,967 --> 00:29:18,007
VOICEOVER 3:
<i>May I mention a Wonder Gun

400
00:29:18,007 --> 00:29:20,287
<i>for driving steel bolts</i>
<i>into concrete...

401
00:29:20,287 --> 00:29:22,047
VOICEOVER 4: <i>I suggest</i>
<i>that a woollen suit

402
00:29:22,047 --> 00:29:23,607
<i>be wired in much the same w ay

403
00:29:23,607 --> 00:29:25,167
<i>as an electric blanket...

404
00:29:25,167 --> 00:29:26,647
VOICEOVER 5: <i>It should be possible

405
00:29:26,647 --> 00:29:29,567
<i>to ascend the mountain</i>
<i>using a large helium-filled balloon.

406
00:29:29,567 --> 00:29:32,877
<i>A significant amount of helium</i>
<i>would be required.

407
00:29:39,167 --> 00:29:42,447
MAN: Nearly all
of the technological innovations

408
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:44,687
that were used on the 1953 expedition

409
00:29:44,687 --> 00:29:47,087
arose from things
developed by the military

410
00:29:47,087 --> 00:29:49,123
during the Second World War,

411
00:29:51,847 --> 00:29:54,847
They tested the windproof equipment
they were going to be wearing

412
00:29:54,847 --> 00:29:57,919
in the wind tunnel
at Farnborough Aircraft Factory,

413
00:30:05,207 --> 00:30:08,127
30 different firms, UK firms,

414
00:30:08,127 --> 00:30:11,164
were involved
in designing the boots alone,

415
00:30:15,007 --> 00:30:19,125
The ascent of Everest in '53 had
become a question of national pride,

416
00:30:20,407 --> 00:30:23,367
When World War II ended,
Britain was completely bankrupt

417
00:30:23,367 --> 00:30:25,967
and because of the austerity,
the postwar austerity in Britain,

418
00:30:25,967 --> 00:30:27,685
the really awful days
that had <i>past,,,

419
00:30:30,167 --> 00:30:32,887
<i>,,it</i> was the last
great colonial project,

420
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the last hurrah
of the British Empire,

421
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PETER HILLARY:
My father and Tenzing

422
00:30:49,567 --> 00:30:52,727
kept volunteering to help
in different situations

423
00:30:52,727 --> 00:30:56,845
to demonstrate their competency
as being one of the summit teams,

424
00:30:57,847 --> 00:31:00,967
Dad could see that there were
a whole lot of reasons

425
00:31:00,967 --> 00:31:04,721
why this could be
a great combination for success,

426
00:31:06,087 --> 00:31:09,124
They were very at home
in this alpine environment,

427
00:31:10,127 --> 00:31:13,039
They were hungry,
They wanted the top,

428
00:31:23,447 --> 00:31:26,247
CONEFRE Y: There's a point
where they were partnered together

429
00:31:26,247 --> 00:31:28,487
and they were racing down
the Khumbu Icefall,

430
00:31:28,487 --> 00:31:31,206
trying to prove that
they could do it quickly,

431
00:31:32,647 --> 00:31:35,127
But as a sort of product
of his over-exuberance, really,

432
00:31:35,127 --> 00:31:37,846
he's racing through it
and something goes wrong,

433
00:31:39,127 --> 00:31:41,687
EDMUND HILLARY: Tenzing and I
headed back down to Base Camp,

434
00:31:43,247 --> 00:31:45,847
When we were about
halfway down the icefall

435
00:31:45,847 --> 00:31:48,566
we came to one of the crevasses,

436
00:31:51,687 --> 00:31:54,967
On one side of it
there was a great chunk of ice

437
00:31:54,967 --> 00:31:57,847
and we had used this
as a stepping stone

438
00:31:57,847 --> 00:31:59,644
to reach the other side,

439
00:32:01,247 --> 00:32:03,841
(TENSE MUSIC)

440
00:32:33,407 --> 00:32:34,967
CONEFRE Y: It was slightly ironic

441
00:32:34,967 --> 00:32:37,447
that it was Ed Hillary,
who was such a good climber,

442
00:32:37,447 --> 00:32:39,324
that it should happen to him,

443
00:32:43,087 --> 00:32:44,887
EDMUND HILLARY:
People have often said to me,

444
00:32:44,887 --> 00:32:46,567
"You must've been very thankful,

445
00:32:46,567 --> 00:32:48,927
"Tenzing having saved
your life like that,"

446
00:32:48,927 --> 00:32:50,567
but I don't think I was,

447
00:32:50,567 --> 00:32:53,843
You know, I'd have been very annoyed
if he hadn't saved my life,

448
00:33:01,367 --> 00:33:03,567
HUNT: Camp 4
has now been established

449
00:33:03,567 --> 00:33:05,247
and we have successfully carried

450
00:33:05,247 --> 00:33:08,205
the three tons of supplies up here,

451
00:33:14,047 --> 00:33:16,167
VENABLES: You don't
conquer a mountain,

452
00:33:16,167 --> 00:33:17,967
If you 're lucky enough,

453
00:33:17,967 --> 00:33:21,357
the mountain gives you a chance
to stand on the top,

454
00:33:22,367 --> 00:33:26,076
You 're trying to overcome
your own weaknesses,

455
00:33:37,687 --> 00:33:40,367
CONEFRE Y: Ed Hillary,
he was so kind of gung-ho

456
00:33:40,367 --> 00:33:42,167
and he always
wanted to be out front,

457
00:33:42,167 --> 00:33:45,007
he always wanted to be in the lead,

458
00:33:45,007 --> 00:33:49,159
He wasn't brash, He was a quieter,
sort of more reserved, character,

459
00:33:52,007 --> 00:33:54,680
PETER HILLARY: Dad was
quite a complicated person,

460
00:33:55,687 --> 00:33:59,327
I think my father
had quite a few demons

461
00:33:59,327 --> 00:34:01,607
born out of being a perfectionist,

462
00:34:01,607 --> 00:34:06,727
but also the sense of inferiority -
nothing is ever quite good enough,

463
00:34:06,727 --> 00:34:10,959
I think it came out of a very
complicated family background,

464
00:34:15,527 --> 00:34:17,687
EDMUND HILLARY: My father
really wasn't very interested

465
00:34:17,687 --> 00:34:19,767
in adventurous activities,

466
00:34:19,767 --> 00:34:22,807
He was a man of very strong beliefs,

467
00:34:22,807 --> 00:34:28,598
The climbing of mountains he probably
regarded as a bit of a waste of time,

468
00:34:33,767 --> 00:34:36,486
I fought with my father,

469
00:34:38,567 --> 00:34:42,287
And I would usually end up
being taken over to the woodshed

470
00:34:42,287 --> 00:34:45,085
and being given a good thumping,

471
00:34:47,527 --> 00:34:49,287
I'm rather proud of the fact

472
00:34:49,287 --> 00:34:52,643
that I never actually
admitted I was <i>wrong,,,

473
00:34:54,607 --> 00:34:56,677
,,even if I had been,

474
00:35:13,247 --> 00:35:16,239
(TYPEWRITER CLICKS)

475
00:35:18,007 --> 00:35:19,727
(DING!)

476
00:35:19,727 --> 00:35:23,247
WESTMACOTT: Well, of course it was
of tremendous interest to all of us

477
00:35:23,247 --> 00:35:25,602
who would be chosen
for the final push,

478
00:35:30,807 --> 00:35:35,119
VENABLES: In those days,
the leader's word was <i>absolute,,,

479
00:35:36,127 --> 00:35:39,756
,,particularly for men who had
all been in the armed forces,

480
00:35:41,687 --> 00:35:44,087
Hunt had to make the decision,

481
00:35:44,087 --> 00:35:47,367
He would say who were
going to be the lucky ones

482
00:35:47,367 --> 00:35:49,676
who were going to have
a crack at the summit,

483
00:35:55,047 --> 00:35:57,207
It was at our Base Camp

484
00:35:57,207 --> 00:35:59,487
and John Hunt got everybody round

485
00:35:59,487 --> 00:36:05,005
and outlined his plans
for the rest of the expedition,

486
00:36:06,967 --> 00:36:10,926
The crucial thing, of course,
was the attempts for the summit,

487
00:36:11,927 --> 00:36:13,727
VENABLES: At that meeting,

488
00:36:13,727 --> 00:36:16,847
that extraordinary
meeting with this team

489
00:36:16,847 --> 00:36:18,887
totally isolated
from the rest of the world,

490
00:36:18,887 --> 00:36:21,196
thousands of miles from <i>home,,,

491
00:36:24,367 --> 00:36:27,247
,,those men, each thinking,
"Oh, wouldn't it be wonderful

492
00:36:27,247 --> 00:36:29,920
"if I was one of the lucky ones,"

493
00:36:32,287 --> 00:36:35,687
BAND: You 're all chosen
as basic climbers to go to the top,

494
00:36:35,687 --> 00:36:39,157
but there are all these
other jobs to be done as well,

495
00:36:42,807 --> 00:36:45,927
PETER HILLARY: My father
was absolutely determined

496
00:36:45,927 --> 00:36:49,636
that he was going to have an opportunity
to climb this mountain,

497
00:36:50,927 --> 00:36:52,407
NORBU TENZING:
One of the conditions

498
00:36:52,407 --> 00:36:54,527
for my father to go
with the English team

499
00:36:54,527 --> 00:36:57,967
was that he'd have a chance
to go to the top,

500
00:36:57,967 --> 00:37:01,087
There was no other climber
quite as accomplished,

501
00:37:01,087 --> 00:37:04,127
WESTMACOTT: All of us would have
liked to have a crack at the top,

502
00:37:04,127 --> 00:37:06,087
but the first attempt on the summit

503
00:37:06,087 --> 00:37:10,205
was to be made by
Tom Bourdillon with Charles <i>Evans,,,

504
00:37:15,247 --> 00:37:18,447
,,and, "If needed,
the second attempt," he said,

505
00:37:18,447 --> 00:37:21,678
"is going to be made
by Ed Hillary and Tenzing,"

506
00:37:24,167 --> 00:37:25,847
PETER HILLARY: I'm sure my father

507
00:37:25,847 --> 00:37:28,725
would have loved to have
been in the first team,

508
00:37:32,127 --> 00:37:35,802
Tenzing was probably
quite conflicted by it,

509
00:37:38,967 --> 00:37:42,167
HUNT: The next stage,
and the really crucial one,

510
00:37:42,167 --> 00:37:45,125
is up the Lhotse Face
to the South Col,

511
00:37:46,567 --> 00:37:50,447
VENABLES: John Hunt said, "OK,
Tom Bourdillon with Charles Evans,

512
00:37:50,447 --> 00:37:52,487
"We'll send the two
of them up first,

513
00:37:52,487 --> 00:37:55,327
"They can do a huge leap
from the South Col

514
00:37:55,327 --> 00:37:57,761
"right to the summit in a day,"

515
00:38:05,607 --> 00:38:08,647
HUNT: The first major task
in this plan fell to George Lowe,

516
00:38:08,647 --> 00:38:12,887
He was to make a route up
the Lhotse Face and prepare the way

517
00:38:12,887 --> 00:38:15,845
for the high-carrying parties
to reach the col,

518
00:38:16,847 --> 00:38:19,680
This was to be finished by 15 May,

519
00:38:26,367 --> 00:38:28,087
CONEFRE Y:
Basically what he said was,

520
00:38:28,087 --> 00:38:31,927
"We want to be in a position
to climb Everest on May 15,"

521
00:38:31,927 --> 00:38:34,687
because there was a constant fear
in the back of Hunt's mind that

522
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:38,919
<i>“The monsoon would come
and end all our hopes,"

523
00:38:40,007 --> 00:38:43,920
But they had to get up this thing
called the Lhotse Face,

524
00:38:47,847 --> 00:38:50,767
EDMUND HILLARY: This is a vast
4,000-foot snow-and-ice face

525
00:38:50,767 --> 00:38:54,555
leading up steeply
to the South Col at 26,000 feet,

526
00:38:55,687 --> 00:38:57,887
(WIND HOWLS)

527
00:38:57,887 --> 00:39:01,287
George Lowe, my fellow New Zealander,
spent much time and energy

528
00:39:01,287 --> 00:39:03,881
bashing a route
up this difficult problem,

529
00:39:05,127 --> 00:39:07,647
LOWE: Well, the work on
the face was very difficult

530
00:39:07,647 --> 00:39:09,447
and made more difficult
and atrocious

531
00:39:09,447 --> 00:39:13,406
by the weather and daily falls
of snow which covered the tracks,

532
00:39:15,287 --> 00:39:17,927
I shared my high perch
for a long time with Ang Nyima,

533
00:39:17,927 --> 00:39:20,316
a splendid little Sherpa,

534
00:39:23,807 --> 00:39:26,127
WESTMACOTT: George Lowe
worked on the Lhotse Face

535
00:39:26,127 --> 00:39:31,565
without oxygen for over a week
up to about 24,500 feet,

536
00:39:33,887 --> 00:39:37,287
LOWE: The cold was terrific
and the wind was bad

537
00:39:37,287 --> 00:39:40,367
and all the time I was hoping
to get the traverse complete

538
00:39:40,367 --> 00:39:43,245
and the route right through
to the South Col,

539
00:39:44,607 --> 00:39:49,007
But I was thrashed by the weather
and the altitude was affecting me,

540
00:39:49,007 --> 00:39:52,636
We didn't seem to be able to make
the last 1,000 feet to the col,

541
00:39:56,127 --> 00:39:58,247
CONEFRE Y: John Hunt's big mistake

542
00:39:58,247 --> 00:40:01,207
was that he underestimated
the Lhotse Face,

543
00:40:01,207 --> 00:40:03,243
It's just so big,

544
00:40:10,687 --> 00:40:13,804
He didn't give enough
support to George Lowe,

545
00:40:15,407 --> 00:40:17,847
LOWE: It really was
myself and Ang Nyima,

546
00:40:17,847 --> 00:40:20,127
Whenever they did send up support,

547
00:40:20,127 --> 00:40:23,358
within 24 hours, they were
not able to carry on,

548
00:40:26,367 --> 00:40:28,247
HACKETT:
Being at high altitude,

549
00:40:28,247 --> 00:40:30,681
you never feel very well,

550
00:40:34,647 --> 00:40:37,727
Each breath of air
we take in at high altitude

551
00:40:37,727 --> 00:40:39,447
has fewer oxygen molecules

552
00:40:39,447 --> 00:40:43,599
so we need more breaths in order
to get the same amount of oxygen,

553
00:40:48,887 --> 00:40:51,007
WHITTAKER: Put a pillow
over your mouth

554
00:40:51,007 --> 00:40:53,687
and try and breath through it
as you 're running,

555
00:40:53,687 --> 00:40:56,607
(PUFFS) You just suck in air,
you 're trying to get enough air

556
00:40:56,607 --> 00:40:59,287
and the oxygen debt builds up
until you just can't go <i>any,,,

557
00:40:59,287 --> 00:41:02,007
You have to stop, (PUFFS HEAVILY)

558
00:41:02,007 --> 00:41:04,567
Take three, four breaths to a step,

559
00:41:04,567 --> 00:41:08,327
five breaths to a step,
six breaths to a step,

560
00:41:08,327 --> 00:41:10,287
15 breaths to a step,

561
00:41:10,287 --> 00:41:12,527
You 're just not getting the air,

562
00:41:12,527 --> 00:41:14,836
(WIND HOWLS)

563
00:41:15,847 --> 00:41:20,125
LOWE: Up there, your mind
somehow gradually accepts slowness,

564
00:41:23,247 --> 00:41:25,527
I thought I was going
extremely well,

565
00:41:25,527 --> 00:41:29,281
but in fact we were staggering about
like men in a dream,

566
00:41:37,487 --> 00:41:40,727
HUNT: We had spent
10 days on the Lhotse Face -

567
00:41:40,727 --> 00:41:43,327
considerably more
than I'd reckoned on -

568
00:41:43,327 --> 00:41:48,247
but we had still not broken through
to the South Col,

569
00:41:48,247 --> 00:41:51,080
The time factor
was becoming critical,

570
00:41:55,527 --> 00:41:57,847
BAND: Watching the progress
on the Lhotse Face,

571
00:41:57,847 --> 00:42:00,647
there was no doubt that
the momentum of the attack

572
00:42:00,647 --> 00:42:03,007
seemed to be winding down,

573
00:42:03,007 --> 00:42:04,887
and the first inklings of the monsoon

574
00:42:04,887 --> 00:42:08,004
were building up
in the Bay of Bengal,

575
00:42:09,287 --> 00:42:12,120
VENABLES: It was
a very, very critical time,

576
00:42:13,247 --> 00:42:14,807
You could imagine Hunt

577
00:42:14,807 --> 00:42:17,407
feeling that this whole great enterprise
was just unravelling

578
00:42:17,407 --> 00:42:19,887
and, "If we don't get
a grip on this thing soon

579
00:42:19,887 --> 00:42:21,407
"we're going to lose our chance,

580
00:42:21,407 --> 00:42:22,887
"The monsoon will arrive

581
00:42:22,887 --> 00:42:25,887
"and we won't even have reached
the South Col, let alone the summit,"

582
00:42:25,887 --> 00:42:28,401
(MORSE CODE BEEPS)

583
00:42:37,167 --> 00:42:40,647
MAN: <i>This is London calling</i>
<i>the British Mount Everest expedition.

584
00:42:40,647 --> 00:42:42,687
<i>Here is the latest weather bulletin.

585
00:42:42,687 --> 00:42:46,367
<i>Western disturbance</i>
<i>apparently moving eastw ards

586
00:42:46,367 --> 00:42:49,127
<i>across the extreme north of Nepal

587
00:42:49,127 --> 00:42:52,087
<i>is likely to cause</i>
<i>cloudy to overcast skies

588
00:42:52,087 --> 00:42:54,237
<i>with occasional thunderstorms...

589
00:42:55,687 --> 00:42:58,847
CONEFRE Y: The later in May it was,

590
00:42:58,847 --> 00:43:01,441
the more likely
that the monsoon would arrive,

591
00:43:03,567 --> 00:43:05,207
When the monsoon comes,

592
00:43:05,207 --> 00:43:09,447
you get huge dumps of snow and they
make climbing much more difficult,

593
00:43:09,447 --> 00:43:12,967
You don't want to be climbing through
large amounts of soft snow,

594
00:43:12,967 --> 00:43:14,639
wading your way through it,

595
00:43:16,687 --> 00:43:19,407
The British expeditions
of the 1930s had all failed

596
00:43:19,407 --> 00:43:21,238
because the monsoon had come early,

597
00:43:22,247 --> 00:43:25,159
And so all of this was
piling on the pressure, you know?

598
00:43:35,207 --> 00:43:37,847
BAND: So even though the route

599
00:43:37,847 --> 00:43:40,647
hadn't actually been made
all the way to the South Col

600
00:43:40,647 --> 00:43:43,767
John Hunt had to make
a sort of crucial decision

601
00:43:43,767 --> 00:43:47,167
to start sending up
the team of 14 Sherpas

602
00:43:47,167 --> 00:43:49,317
to carry all the stores we needed,

603
00:43:57,727 --> 00:44:00,847
HUNT: Nothing must endanger
the getting of our stores to the col

604
00:44:00,847 --> 00:44:03,839
in time for our
attempts on the summit,

605
00:44:08,447 --> 00:44:10,847
EDMUND HILLARY: On 21 May,
Tenzing and myself

606
00:44:10,847 --> 00:44:14,567
led a band of 14 high-altitude Sherpas
up the Lhotse Face,

607
00:44:14,567 --> 00:44:17,559
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

608
00:44:26,007 --> 00:44:30,327
13 Sherpas struggled up to
the col that day, without oxygen,

609
00:44:30,327 --> 00:44:34,527
The 14th only just failed to make it,
and his load was carried on,

610
00:44:34,527 --> 00:44:37,564
We were proud of them, and grateful,

611
00:44:39,447 --> 00:44:41,247
It was a 10,5-hour day,

612
00:44:41,247 --> 00:44:43,647
They carried 30 pounds each,
and their only nourishment

613
00:44:43,647 --> 00:44:46,241
was a single cup of tea apiece
for breakfast,

614
00:44:49,767 --> 00:44:53,327
BAND: And so we were able
to equip the camp properly

615
00:44:53,327 --> 00:44:56,887
with tents, sleeping bags,
oxygen equipment and food,

616
00:44:56,887 --> 00:44:59,355
and that was one of
the biggest achievements,

617
00:45:07,447 --> 00:45:08,927
EDMUND HILLARY:
The South Col is probably

618
00:45:08,927 --> 00:45:10,406
the most barren spot in the world,

619
00:45:12,207 --> 00:45:14,007
The continual strong wind

620
00:45:14,007 --> 00:45:17,567
is always blowing over
the dreary waste of rock and ice,

621
00:45:17,567 --> 00:45:19,327
Adding an air of desolation

622
00:45:19,327 --> 00:45:21,567
are the remnants of the Swiss tents
of the previous year,

623
00:45:21,567 --> 00:45:24,957
with pieces of tattered cloth
still clinging to them,

624
00:45:29,527 --> 00:45:33,687
NORBU TENZING: 1952, the Swiss
had invited my father to climb Everest,

625
00:45:33,687 --> 00:45:37,487
and he had been up
where no human had been before,

626
00:45:37,487 --> 00:45:40,206
but bad weather turned them back,

627
00:45:43,047 --> 00:45:45,487
LOWE: I remember <i>André</i> Roch,
of the Swiss party, said,

628
00:45:45,487 --> 00:45:48,927
"On the col
there's a smell of death,"

629
00:45:48,927 --> 00:45:51,367
We thought that was
Continental dramatics,

630
00:45:51,367 --> 00:45:53,722
but when we'd been there,
we understood,

631
00:45:57,327 --> 00:46:00,087
WHITTAKER: I'm telling you, the cold,

632
00:46:00,087 --> 00:46:01,967
you can feel it
coming up the extremities,

633
00:46:01,967 --> 00:46:05,087
You know you 're gonna freeze
your hands and toes,

634
00:46:05,087 --> 00:46:07,247
and you just feel the cold
creeping up,

635
00:46:07,247 --> 00:46:11,407
It's a race between the body
and what you hope you can do,

636
00:46:11,407 --> 00:46:15,167
You know that you 're dying
a little bit up there,

637
00:46:15,167 --> 00:46:18,159
(WIND WHISTLES RELENTLESSLY)

638
00:46:24,167 --> 00:46:26,007
EDMUND HILLARY: A major step
had been achieved,

639
00:46:26,007 --> 00:46:28,680
and we then returned
once more to the Western Cwm,

640
00:46:32,527 --> 00:46:36,918
Without wasting any time,
we brought into action our assault plan,

641
00:46:39,527 --> 00:46:42,647
CONEFRE Y: Hunt wanted to have
two attempts on the summit,

642
00:46:42,647 --> 00:46:45,287
but he realised
that he couldn't have two attempts

643
00:46:45,287 --> 00:46:47,887
which were using
open-circuit oxygen sets,

644
00:46:47,887 --> 00:46:49,807
WESTMACOTT: In the open-circuit,

645
00:46:49,807 --> 00:46:53,767
when you breathe out, the
expired air goes to the atmosphere,

646
00:46:53,767 --> 00:46:55,287
and when you breathe in,

647
00:46:55,287 --> 00:46:58,847
the atmospheric air comes with
an addition of a puff of oxygen

648
00:46:58,847 --> 00:47:00,678
from your oxygen set,

649
00:47:04,287 --> 00:47:06,487
CONEFRE Y: The thing about
open-circuit oxygen sets

650
00:47:06,487 --> 00:47:08,487
is that they use a lot of oxygen,

651
00:47:08,487 --> 00:47:11,967
so he would have to get
an awful lot of oxygen

652
00:47:11,967 --> 00:47:14,127
up onto the South Col
and to the Southeast Ridge,

653
00:47:14,127 --> 00:47:15,607
so he sort of thought,

654
00:47:15,607 --> 00:47:17,807
"Well, no, we're not gonna
be able to do this,"

655
00:47:17,807 --> 00:47:20,007
But there was an alternative form
of oxygen set,

656
00:47:20,007 --> 00:47:21,963
which was called a closed circuit,

657
00:47:23,567 --> 00:47:26,087
WESTMACOTT: The closed-circuit,
when you breathe out

658
00:47:26,087 --> 00:47:28,527
the carbon dioxide
goes through a canister

659
00:47:28,527 --> 00:47:32,127
of something called soda lime,
which extracts the carbon dioxide

660
00:47:32,127 --> 00:47:34,407
and gives you back the oxygen
into the set,

661
00:47:34,407 --> 00:47:37,444
and you 're completely insulated
from the outside air,

662
00:47:40,807 --> 00:47:46,167
Now, if it works, the closed system
can be more efficient

663
00:47:46,167 --> 00:47:49,207
than the open-circuit system,

664
00:47:49,207 --> 00:47:52,607
CONEFRE Y: The people who are using
the closed-circuit set

665
00:47:52,607 --> 00:47:55,087
can start from lower down,

666
00:47:55,087 --> 00:47:57,447
But the thing about
a closed-circuit set

667
00:47:57,447 --> 00:48:00,207
was that the only person
who really knew how to use them

668
00:48:00,207 --> 00:48:03,007
was the person who had
designed them, Tom Bourdillon,

669
00:48:03,007 --> 00:48:05,687
WESTMACOTT:
And the first attempt on the summit,

670
00:48:05,687 --> 00:48:07,727
using the closed-circuit oxygen,

671
00:48:07,727 --> 00:48:11,163
was to be made by Tom Bourdillon
with Charles Evans,

672
00:48:13,247 --> 00:48:17,126
John Hunt went ahead
to the South Col in support,

673
00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:26,007
PETER HILLARY: Evans and Bourdillon
left Advanced Base

674
00:48:26,007 --> 00:48:27,847
down in the Western Cwm

675
00:48:27,847 --> 00:48:30,566
and climbed up the South Col
to camp,

676
00:48:31,847 --> 00:48:34,367
WESTMACOTT: Tom and Charles
were to go all the way

677
00:48:34,367 --> 00:48:36,358
from the South Col to the top,

678
00:48:37,927 --> 00:48:40,487
I thought at the time
they had a chance,

679
00:48:40,487 --> 00:48:43,206
but it was a hell of a long way,

680
00:48:51,647 --> 00:48:54,047
PETER HILLARY: If Bourdillon
and Evans reach the summit,

681
00:48:54,047 --> 00:48:56,207
John Hunt might go, "Job done,

682
00:48:56,207 --> 00:48:58,721
"We're all going home,
Everyone's safe,"

683
00:49:04,487 --> 00:49:08,007
But the weather closed in and
everyone got stuck for two days,

684
00:49:08,007 --> 00:49:11,363
including Bourdillon and Evans
on the South Col,

685
00:49:13,367 --> 00:49:16,647
My father and Tenzing
left Advanced Base

686
00:49:16,647 --> 00:49:18,647
down on the Western Cwm

687
00:49:18,647 --> 00:49:22,287
to come up to the South Col
to be the second summit team,

688
00:49:22,287 --> 00:49:25,527
EDMUND HILLARY: Well, we left
Base Camp in the Western Cwm,

689
00:49:25,527 --> 00:49:27,367
There was our support party -

690
00:49:27,367 --> 00:49:30,803
George Lowe, Alf Gregory
and several Sherpas,

691
00:49:35,207 --> 00:49:37,527
And then Tenzing and myself,
who were the actual assault party,

692
00:49:37,527 --> 00:49:39,165
with the open-circuit,

693
00:49:51,887 --> 00:49:55,407
PETER HILLARY: As my father and
Tenzing were departing from Camp 4,

694
00:49:55,407 --> 00:49:57,841
Bourdillon and Evans were
making their summit bid,

695
00:50:04,447 --> 00:50:06,567
EDMUND HILLARY: Well,
we went up the Lhotse Face

696
00:50:06,567 --> 00:50:10,162
and across the long traverse
that leads up to the South Col,

697
00:50:17,647 --> 00:50:19,927
And we're just about
up to the South Col

698
00:50:19,927 --> 00:50:22,607
when we notice the support party,

699
00:50:22,607 --> 00:50:26,607
George started shouting
and jumping around,

700
00:50:26,607 --> 00:50:29,447
And we looked up
and we saw Evans and Bourdillon

701
00:50:29,447 --> 00:50:32,287
going up the tiny little peak
far above us,

702
00:50:32,287 --> 00:50:34,562
onto the top of the South Summit,

703
00:50:36,127 --> 00:50:39,287
I think it was somewhere
around about 12:00 in the morning,

704
00:50:39,287 --> 00:50:43,127
and we thought, "Ooh, <i>they've,,,</i>
South Summit, 12:00,

705
00:50:43,127 --> 00:50:45,561
"They've time to get to the top,

706
00:50:48,247 --> 00:50:50,044
"They're going to climb it,"

707
00:50:52,527 --> 00:50:55,567
PETER HILLARY: You know, when
Bourdillon and Evans went out of sight,

708
00:50:55,567 --> 00:50:57,407
there would've been
very high emotions,

709
00:50:57,407 --> 00:50:59,523
because these guys wanted
to be up there,

710
00:51:03,887 --> 00:51:07,800
EDMUND HILLARY: We crossed over
and reached the South Col,

711
00:51:13,007 --> 00:51:15,447
A little later in the day,
we kept an eye out

712
00:51:15,447 --> 00:51:17,447
for the clouds that
come over the mountain,

713
00:51:17,447 --> 00:51:20,687
and we were a bit worried
about Evans and Bourdillon,

714
00:51:20,687 --> 00:51:22,767
But, uh, I think
it was about 3:30,

715
00:51:22,767 --> 00:51:25,007
George once again
caught sight of them

716
00:51:25,007 --> 00:51:27,767
coming down the couloir
from the Southeast Ridge,

717
00:51:27,767 --> 00:51:29,485
down towards the South Col,

718
00:51:33,567 --> 00:51:35,247
LOWE: And it was a long time

719
00:51:35,247 --> 00:51:36,760
before they actually started
to come down,

720
00:51:41,727 --> 00:51:46,198
And when they were coming down,
they were clearly very, very tired,

721
00:51:52,327 --> 00:51:54,767
PETER HILLARY: When Bourdillon
and Evans came down,

722
00:51:54,767 --> 00:51:57,201
Dad walked out to meet them,

723
00:52:03,567 --> 00:52:05,727
People tend to see it in terms of

724
00:52:05,727 --> 00:52:09,447
this really good guy going out
to meet them and help them back,

725
00:52:09,447 --> 00:52:11,563
and there was that, absolutely,

726
00:52:13,167 --> 00:52:16,807
But there was another part,
which was inside, where <i>he,,,

727
00:52:16,807 --> 00:52:18,567
<i>,,he</i> wanted to climb this mountain,

728
00:52:18,567 --> 00:52:21,161
He needed to know,
"Where did they get to?"

729
00:52:25,687 --> 00:52:27,167
EDMUND HILLARY: And they told us

730
00:52:27,167 --> 00:52:28,647
that they'd reached
the South Summit alright,

731
00:52:28,647 --> 00:52:30,607
had a look at the summit ridge,

732
00:52:30,607 --> 00:52:34,680
but hadn't had sufficient time or oxygen
or energy to go any further,

733
00:52:45,207 --> 00:52:47,087
CONEFRE Y:
They were in a terrible state,

734
00:52:47,087 --> 00:52:50,127
Most of the day Charles Evans
had been climbing with an oxygen set

735
00:52:50,127 --> 00:52:51,607
which didn't work properly,

736
00:52:51,607 --> 00:52:54,447
so he'd been inhaling
carbon dioxide as well as oxygen,

737
00:52:54,447 --> 00:53:00,087
But I think also Tom Bourdillon was
very,,,emotionally in a bad state,

738
00:53:00,087 --> 00:53:02,287
because it really meant
a lot to him, you know,

739
00:53:02,287 --> 00:53:05,996
He had designed this oxygen set
which had failed,

740
00:53:07,087 --> 00:53:11,080
So they were in a bad way,
physically and emotionally as well,

741
00:53:13,167 --> 00:53:16,607
GREGORY: Tom Bourdillon kept saying,
"We should've had a go,

742
00:53:16,607 --> 00:53:18,647
"We should've gone on,"
you know,

743
00:53:18,647 --> 00:53:20,444
"We should've gone on,"

744
00:53:25,087 --> 00:53:26,847
VENABLES:
Evans and Bourdillon

745
00:53:26,847 --> 00:53:28,883
were very strong,
very experienced climbers,

746
00:53:32,127 --> 00:53:35,517
Having climbed higher than any
human beings had ever been <i>before,,,

747
00:53:37,167 --> 00:53:38,967
,,having got to the South Summit

748
00:53:38,967 --> 00:53:43,167
and looked across at this final,
almost knife-edged ridge,

749
00:53:43,167 --> 00:53:47,127
Charles Evans did say to Ed Hillary
something like,

750
00:53:47,127 --> 00:53:52,645
"That last ridge looks really hard,
I don't know if you can do it,"

751
00:54:00,527 --> 00:54:03,519
(WIND RUSHES)

752
00:54:13,447 --> 00:54:16,727
HACKETT: Above 26,000 feet
is what we call the death zone,

753
00:54:16,727 --> 00:54:20,087
because you are slowly dying,

754
00:54:20,087 --> 00:54:23,523
It's not a place for humans,

755
00:54:29,167 --> 00:54:32,247
GREGORY: John Hunt was a leader
leading from the front,

756
00:54:32,247 --> 00:54:35,087
And as the front now
was up above the South Col,

757
00:54:35,087 --> 00:54:37,007
that's why he wanted to stay,

758
00:54:37,007 --> 00:54:40,682
and we realised that he really
wasn't strong enough to stay,

759
00:54:42,447 --> 00:54:44,047
VENABLES:
It was a classic case

760
00:54:44,047 --> 00:54:47,487
of someone having been
too high too long,

761
00:54:47,487 --> 00:54:49,807
GREGORY: He'd gone beyond the limit,

762
00:54:49,807 --> 00:54:52,007
like Tom Bourdillon
and Charles Evans,

763
00:54:52,007 --> 00:54:55,966
And he was eventually persuaded
to go down with them,

764
00:54:57,767 --> 00:55:00,767
They were exhausted
and we were worried about them

765
00:55:00,767 --> 00:55:03,998
and we dug out some oxygen
to help them,

766
00:55:05,567 --> 00:55:07,847
HUNT: Well, I hated
to leave the col,

767
00:55:07,847 --> 00:55:09,527
but after a certain amount
of discussion,

768
00:55:09,527 --> 00:55:12,207
I saw that I could not weaken
the second party,

769
00:55:12,207 --> 00:55:16,917
So I left Ed with the parting
instruction not to give in,

770
00:55:19,367 --> 00:55:21,887
CONEFRE Y: This was a great moment
on the expedition

771
00:55:21,887 --> 00:55:25,487
in which the leader sacrifices
his own personal ambition,

772
00:55:25,487 --> 00:55:27,887
and Ed Hillary says,
"Never at any moment

773
00:55:27,887 --> 00:55:30,560
"have I respected John Hunt more,"

774
00:55:47,087 --> 00:55:49,007
LOWE: You know,
it was touch and go,

775
00:55:49,007 --> 00:55:51,407
because the monsoon comes
in the first week of June,

776
00:55:51,407 --> 00:55:54,607
and it was tight,
on the last days of May,

777
00:55:54,607 --> 00:55:56,967
(WIND RUSHES)

778
00:55:56,967 --> 00:56:00,207
CONEFRE Y: For Hillary and Tenzing
to make an attempt on the summit,

779
00:56:00,207 --> 00:56:02,047
they couldn't go from the South Col,

780
00:56:02,047 --> 00:56:04,407
because they would have to carry
too much oxygen,

781
00:56:04,407 --> 00:56:08,559
So the only way was to start from
higher up, then go for the summit,

782
00:56:11,727 --> 00:56:14,447
(WIND RUSHES)

783
00:56:14,447 --> 00:56:17,167
EDMUND HILLARY: The following day
was extremely windy and cold,

784
00:56:17,167 --> 00:56:19,556
and no movement upwards
was possible,

785
00:56:20,807 --> 00:56:23,167
We spent the day preparing
the oxygen and gear,

786
00:56:23,167 --> 00:56:26,523
with the hope that the following day
would prove clear and fine,

787
00:56:30,767 --> 00:56:34,927
CONEFRE Y: They would use oxygen
at night, flowing at a very low rate,

788
00:56:34,927 --> 00:56:36,567
because it would help them sleep

789
00:56:36,567 --> 00:56:39,001
and make them feel
slightly warmer as well,

790
00:56:42,727 --> 00:56:44,727
WHITTAKER:
Night-time is a tough time,

791
00:56:44,727 --> 00:56:47,036
You lay there
listening to the <i>mountain,,,

792
00:56:50,967 --> 00:56:54,367
,,listening to the wind,
listening to the avalanche,

793
00:56:54,367 --> 00:56:56,642
Thinking, "Oh, my God," you know,

794
00:56:58,887 --> 00:57:00,957
Demons come,

795
00:57:08,367 --> 00:57:11,967
LOWE: The original plan was
that Gregory and three Sherpas

796
00:57:11,967 --> 00:57:14,127
would carry the high camp,

797
00:57:14,127 --> 00:57:19,007
One Sherpa had collapsed on the col
and gone down previously,

798
00:57:19,007 --> 00:57:20,884
leaving us two Sherpas,

799
00:57:24,807 --> 00:57:28,527
On the morning of the day
we intended to do the carry,

800
00:57:28,527 --> 00:57:30,687
we poked our head
into the pyramid tent

801
00:57:30,687 --> 00:57:32,917
and found Sherpa Pemba
in a very bad condition,

802
00:57:35,087 --> 00:57:36,887
It was obvious
that he wouldn't carry,

803
00:57:36,887 --> 00:57:40,596
and so we had the job
of sharing the load,

804
00:57:47,087 --> 00:57:49,367
GREGORY: First of all,
early in the day

805
00:57:49,367 --> 00:57:52,837
we knew that we'd have to reorganise
the loads and take more,

806
00:57:54,887 --> 00:58:00,280
George Lowe and I and Ang Nyima
left about a quarter to nine,

807
00:58:05,847 --> 00:58:09,407
LOWE: Ed and Tenzing left
the South Col an hour behind us

808
00:58:09,407 --> 00:58:12,727
to conserve their energy
and to go faster through our steps

809
00:58:12,727 --> 00:58:14,763
and so conserve their oxygen,

810
00:58:16,047 --> 00:58:19,487
And we took off carrying
between 50 and 60 pounds,

811
00:58:19,487 --> 00:58:22,687
and Ed, I think we estimated his
at 63 pounds,

812
00:58:22,687 --> 00:58:25,485
which is quite an enormous load
for that altitude,

813
00:58:28,407 --> 00:58:32,247
The wind was very strong
on the col,

814
00:58:32,247 --> 00:58:35,247
We had very difficult conditions,

815
00:58:35,247 --> 00:58:37,397
We moved up this ridge
looking for a flat spot,

816
00:58:44,967 --> 00:58:47,527
GREGORY: For a long time
we couldn't find a camp <i>site,,,

817
00:58:48,967 --> 00:58:52,087
,,until at last Tenzing found one,

818
00:58:52,087 --> 00:58:55,716
a nearly flat spot
underneath a rocky bluff,

819
00:58:57,847 --> 00:59:00,087
EDMUND HILLARY: They helped us
to the highest camp

820
00:59:00,087 --> 00:59:02,007
ever put up on Everest
or any other mountain,

821
00:59:02,007 --> 00:59:04,680
at 27,900 feet,

822
00:59:15,567 --> 00:59:18,604
VENABLES: No-one had ever camped
this high before,

823
00:59:20,807 --> 00:59:23,647
George Lowe and Alf Gregory
take a few pictures

824
00:59:23,647 --> 00:59:26,727
and then shake hands and say,
"Well, 'bye now, Good luck,

825
00:59:26,727 --> 00:59:29,207
"We'd better be off down,"

826
00:59:29,207 --> 00:59:33,767
And then there's
a wonderfully poignant moment,

827
00:59:33,767 --> 00:59:37,127
PETER HILLARY: Ang Nyima
is very tired, he should go down,

828
00:59:37,127 --> 00:59:40,167
But he said to Dad
that he wanted to stay

829
00:59:40,167 --> 00:59:43,284
so he could make some tea when
they came down, and help them,

830
00:59:44,567 --> 00:59:47,807
I know Dad was
very touched by that,

831
00:59:47,807 --> 00:59:51,927
But eventually they start
back down again,

832
00:59:51,927 --> 00:59:55,442
VENABLES: Leaving Hillary and Tenzing
completely alone,

833
01:00:00,247 --> 01:00:03,007
EDMUND HILLARY: It was with
certain feelings of sorrow

834
01:00:03,007 --> 01:00:05,447
that we saw George and Greg
and Sherpa Ang Nyima

835
01:00:05,447 --> 01:00:08,407
descending down the mountain,
leaving us up there all alone,

836
01:00:08,407 --> 01:00:11,167
We'd have much preferred to have
a bit of company for the night,

837
01:00:11,167 --> 01:00:13,886
However, they had to get down -
our oxygen was running short,

838
01:00:15,727 --> 01:00:19,887
PETER HILLARY: You 're totally
on your own, really out on a limb,

839
01:00:19,887 --> 01:00:22,207
There's no radio contact
with anyone,

840
01:00:22,207 --> 01:00:23,727
You could disappear

841
01:00:23,727 --> 01:00:26,605
and everyone will just wonder,
"Whatever happened to them?"

842
01:00:28,327 --> 01:00:31,287
I think it would've been
very exciting,

843
01:00:31,287 --> 01:00:34,279
very Ionely and very scary,

844
01:00:37,447 --> 01:00:39,836
(WIND WHISTLES AND HOWLS)

845
01:00:47,167 --> 01:00:50,247
EDMUND HILLARY: It took us two
hours of solid work to set up the tent

846
01:00:50,247 --> 01:00:53,478
on two strips of ground
a yard wide and 10 feet long,

847
01:00:58,647 --> 01:01:01,007
CONEFRE Y:
Towards the top of Everest,

848
01:01:01,007 --> 01:01:03,567
you get these
very, very powerful winds,

849
01:01:03,567 --> 01:01:06,807
and they were very precariously
attached to this slope

850
01:01:06,807 --> 01:01:08,327
and all the time they're worried

851
01:01:08,327 --> 01:01:10,124
they're gonna be
blown off the mountain,

852
01:01:11,847 --> 01:01:14,087
DOUGLAS: When the wind
gets up in the evening

853
01:01:14,087 --> 01:01:15,967
you 're in
quite a dangerous position

854
01:01:15,967 --> 01:01:17,844
because you 're pinned
to the mountain,

855
01:01:19,047 --> 01:01:21,207
The noise is really frightening,

856
01:01:21,207 --> 01:01:24,199
(WIND HOWLS AND RUSHES
RELENTLESSLY)

857
01:01:33,887 --> 01:01:37,482
CONEFRE Y: That night was the coldest
ever recorded on the expedition,

858
01:01:43,127 --> 01:01:45,127
HACKETT: It's such
a dehydrating environment,

859
01:01:45,127 --> 01:01:46,847
and there's only one way
to make water,

860
01:01:46,847 --> 01:01:49,315
and that is you have to melt
snow or ice,

861
01:01:50,407 --> 01:01:53,807
You 're breathing eight times more
than you are at sea level,

862
01:01:53,807 --> 01:01:55,967
You can lose more than a litre a day

863
01:01:55,967 --> 01:01:58,807
just from the heavy breathing
at high altitude,

864
01:01:58,807 --> 01:02:00,687
In addition, the air is so dry

865
01:02:00,687 --> 01:02:02,678
that it sucks the moisture
right from your skin,

866
01:02:12,607 --> 01:02:14,967
EDMUND HILLARY: I made myself
as comfortable as possible,

867
01:02:14,967 --> 01:02:18,407
half sitting and half reclining
on the upper shelf,

868
01:02:18,407 --> 01:02:22,407
It wasn't comfortable, but I could
at least brace my feet and shoulders

869
01:02:22,407 --> 01:02:26,559
to help our meagre anchors
hold the tent in the gusts of wind,

870
01:02:30,847 --> 01:02:32,327
VENABLES: High-altitude climbing

871
01:02:32,327 --> 01:02:36,115
is all about being comfortable
in uncomfortable places,

872
01:02:38,807 --> 01:02:43,007
He was very good at basic
day-to-day survival, as was Tenzing,

873
01:02:43,007 --> 01:02:45,680
and I think that's where
they really scored,

874
01:02:54,967 --> 01:02:57,207
EDMUND HILLARY: Early in the night,
the wind dropped,

875
01:02:57,207 --> 01:03:01,247
We had some oxygen,
which we used for sleeping purposes

876
01:03:01,247 --> 01:03:05,047
for about four hours
out of the 16 hours we spent there,

877
01:03:05,047 --> 01:03:07,047
For the four hours, at least,
we did doze,

878
01:03:07,047 --> 01:03:08,767
but as soon as the oxygen cut out

879
01:03:08,767 --> 01:03:12,043
we'd immediately wake up
and start feeling cold,

880
01:03:13,527 --> 01:03:15,287
CONEFRE Y: He's all the time thinking,

881
01:03:15,287 --> 01:03:17,247
"I don't want to use
tomorrow's oxygen,"

882
01:03:17,247 --> 01:03:19,967
There's just little things go wrong,

883
01:03:19,967 --> 01:03:23,247
They've lugged up an enormous
black oxygen cylinder

884
01:03:23,247 --> 01:03:25,447
which they planned to use
for sleeping oxygen,

885
01:03:25,447 --> 01:03:27,447
But, unfortunately,
having lugged this bottle up,

886
01:03:27,447 --> 01:03:30,007
they discovered that somebody has
gone back with the adaptor for it,

887
01:03:30,007 --> 01:03:32,282
so the bottle is useless,

888
01:03:34,287 --> 01:03:36,847
EDMUND HILLARY: Well,
I didn't have the complete conviction

889
01:03:36,847 --> 01:03:38,997
that we were going to be
successful,

890
01:03:43,207 --> 01:03:45,167
I was very aware of the fact

891
01:03:45,167 --> 01:03:47,887
that very good expeditions
had attempted the mountain

892
01:03:47,887 --> 01:03:51,197
and had got very high
but had not succeeded,

893
01:03:59,687 --> 01:04:02,884
At 6:30am we started off
from our tent,

894
01:04:04,887 --> 01:04:08,596
We wasted no time in preparing
the oxygen apparatus and equipment,

895
01:04:12,367 --> 01:04:14,727
CONEFRE Y: It's all about oxygen
at this point,

896
01:04:14,727 --> 01:04:16,927
Hillary is constantly
thinking about this,

897
01:04:16,927 --> 01:04:18,887
"How much oxygen do I need?

898
01:04:18,887 --> 01:04:21,327
"What should the flow rate
of the oxygen be?" You know?

899
01:04:21,327 --> 01:04:24,647
"If I have it flowing at
a higher rate, then I feel better,

900
01:04:24,647 --> 01:04:27,161
"but I use up the bottle
more quickly,"

901
01:04:37,207 --> 01:04:39,127
DOUGLAS: It's very, very cold,

902
01:04:39,127 --> 01:04:41,767
They measure it at below -25,

903
01:04:41,767 --> 01:04:45,407
And that kind of profound,
bone-chilling cold

904
01:04:45,407 --> 01:04:47,287
is almost like an assault, you know?

905
01:04:47,287 --> 01:04:49,243
It's just grim,

906
01:04:50,527 --> 01:04:53,207
CONEFRE Y: The team physiologist had
said, "When you get to high altitude,

907
01:04:53,207 --> 01:04:55,567
"you 've got to climb
using your oxygen sets

908
01:04:55,567 --> 01:04:57,407
"at a rate of four litres per minute,

909
01:04:57,407 --> 01:05:01,116
"Anything less than that, you 're not
gonna get real benefit from it,"

910
01:05:02,767 --> 01:05:05,687
EDMUND HILLARY: Our progress
at first was pretty steady,

911
01:05:05,687 --> 01:05:07,407
However, we examined
the oxygen supplies

912
01:05:07,407 --> 01:05:09,967
and found we couldn't go on
our estimated four litres a minute

913
01:05:09,967 --> 01:05:11,887
and have a chance
of getting to the top,

914
01:05:11,887 --> 01:05:13,605
Had to cut it down to three,

915
01:05:18,727 --> 01:05:23,647
PETER HILLARY: A fairly simple
calculation about the oxygen flow rate

916
01:05:23,647 --> 01:05:26,447
is unbelievably difficult up there

917
01:05:26,447 --> 01:05:30,725
because you 've got an addled,
oxygen-deprived mind,

918
01:06:07,687 --> 01:06:09,327
EDMUND HILLARY:
After going for some time,

919
01:06:09,327 --> 01:06:11,527
we reached the bottom
of a 400-foot slope

920
01:06:11,527 --> 01:06:13,807
which led up to the South Summit,

921
01:06:13,807 --> 01:06:16,605
and this slope
was a tremendously steep one,

922
01:06:18,847 --> 01:06:22,203
We felt that this snow
could easily avalanche,

923
01:06:23,407 --> 01:06:25,367
DOUGLAS:
There was a bit of a crust,

924
01:06:25,367 --> 01:06:27,367
so you 'd think you were
standing on firm ground

925
01:06:27,367 --> 01:06:29,687
and then it would give way -
it would be powdery underneath,

926
01:06:29,687 --> 01:06:32,207
So Hillary is anxious about that,

927
01:06:32,207 --> 01:06:35,007
And also fear of avalanche,

928
01:06:35,007 --> 01:06:37,887
And they have this exchange,

929
01:06:37,887 --> 01:06:40,367
EDMUND HILLARY: I remember
turning to Tenzing and saying to him,

930
01:06:40,367 --> 01:06:42,527
"Well, what do you think
about it, Tenzing?"

931
01:06:42,527 --> 01:06:44,167
He said he didn't like it at all,

932
01:06:44,167 --> 01:06:45,885
thought it was
decidedly dangerous,

933
01:06:52,127 --> 01:06:53,727
Then I said,
"Well, what do you think?

934
01:06:53,727 --> 01:06:55,287
"Do you think we should go on?"

935
01:06:55,287 --> 01:06:57,926
And he said, "Just as you like,"

936
01:07:00,767 --> 01:07:05,204
We climbed up it with a good deal
of fear and trepidation,

937
01:07:08,247 --> 01:07:11,607
I think this is the first time
I've ever had to make a decision

938
01:07:11,607 --> 01:07:14,447
as to whether something
was justifiable or not,

939
01:07:14,447 --> 01:07:17,757
decided it wasn't justifiable,
but we still went on,

940
01:07:21,207 --> 01:07:23,687
DOUGLAS: You 're right on the edge
of what's possible

941
01:07:23,687 --> 01:07:27,487
and every step you take is
putting you more into danger,

942
01:07:27,487 --> 01:07:30,763
so the temptation to turn round
and go down is strong,

943
01:07:35,047 --> 01:07:37,167
EDMUND HILLARY: I'm frightened
a great deal of the time

944
01:07:37,167 --> 01:07:39,127
when I'm in dangerous country,

945
01:07:39,127 --> 01:07:42,358
But I think being afraid
is one of the important factors,

946
01:07:43,567 --> 01:07:45,637
It's a stimulating factor,

947
01:07:46,687 --> 01:07:49,287
Of course, if you just get
petrified with fear,

948
01:07:49,287 --> 01:07:51,198
then it would be hopeless,

949
01:08:01,887 --> 01:08:04,887
PETER HILLARY: The crux of it is
whether or not you 're gonna survive,

950
01:08:04,887 --> 01:08:06,927
You know,
none of that is guaranteed,

951
01:08:06,927 --> 01:08:09,567
If anything goes wrong up there,

952
01:08:09,567 --> 01:08:12,007
even a relatively minor accident

953
01:08:12,007 --> 01:08:16,000
can very rapidly slide
into a fatal one,

954
01:08:21,927 --> 01:08:23,567
EDMUND HILLARY: It was a great relief

955
01:08:23,567 --> 01:08:25,444
when we reached
the South Summit at 9am,

956
01:08:27,847 --> 01:08:29,407
Oxygen was running short,

957
01:08:29,407 --> 01:08:32,922
so we wasted no time
and set off along the ridge,

958
01:08:37,127 --> 01:08:40,802
But we were moving slowly
and time was against us,

959
01:08:47,607 --> 01:08:50,807
PETER HILLARY: Evans and Bourdillon
had gone to the South Summit

960
01:08:50,807 --> 01:08:54,243
and had had reservations
about the route ahead,

961
01:08:55,687 --> 01:08:59,807
Evans had pointed out that there was
a very difficult knife-edged ridge,

962
01:08:59,807 --> 01:09:01,927
It's serrated,

963
01:09:01,927 --> 01:09:06,047
it's got these just horrifying drops
on both sides,

964
01:09:06,047 --> 01:09:10,086
They must've had concerns about
whether or not they could climb it,

965
01:09:13,767 --> 01:09:15,607
VENABLES:
On the left you 've got

966
01:09:15,607 --> 01:09:17,167
the immense Southwest Face
of Everest,

967
01:09:17,167 --> 01:09:18,647
and if you fell down that,

968
01:09:18,647 --> 01:09:21,047
you 'd probably fall all the way
back down to the Western Cwm,

969
01:09:21,047 --> 01:09:22,844
8,000 feet below,

970
01:09:25,407 --> 01:09:28,407
And then to your right
is the even bigger precipice

971
01:09:28,407 --> 01:09:30,567
of the Kangshung Face,

972
01:09:30,567 --> 01:09:32,444
and that really concentrates
the mind,

973
01:09:36,887 --> 01:09:38,407
EDMUND HILLARY:
For the mountaineer,

974
01:09:38,407 --> 01:09:40,367
the thought of the process of dying

975
01:09:40,367 --> 01:09:42,127
is more unpleasant

976
01:09:42,127 --> 01:09:45,324
than the actual fact that
you may be dead at the end of it,

977
01:09:54,047 --> 01:09:58,287
HUNT: In the meantime,
watching from below down at Camp 4,

978
01:09:58,287 --> 01:10:01,916
we were all waiting most anxiously,

979
01:10:07,207 --> 01:10:10,127
BAND: Obviously we'd hoped
to have our little walkie-talkies going

980
01:10:10,127 --> 01:10:12,327
right up to at least the South Col,

981
01:10:12,327 --> 01:10:15,287
but the one that was taken
to the South Col didn't work,

982
01:10:15,287 --> 01:10:18,047
So in fact we realised
we wouldn't actually know

983
01:10:18,047 --> 01:10:20,847
whether Hillary and Tenzing
had been successful

984
01:10:20,847 --> 01:10:24,078
until they actually came down
and told us,

985
01:10:27,847 --> 01:10:32,087
PETER HILLARY: No-one had any idea
where they were, how they were going,

986
01:10:32,087 --> 01:10:35,602
would they be successful,
or, indeed, would they come back?

987
01:10:38,167 --> 01:10:41,159
(SNOW CRUNCHES)

988
01:10:48,247 --> 01:10:50,047
EDMUND HILLARY:
Our oxygen equipment

989
01:10:50,047 --> 01:10:51,807
was not all that sophisticated,

990
01:10:51,807 --> 01:10:54,447
It only had a pressure gauge on it,

991
01:10:54,447 --> 01:10:59,087
so I never really knew
just how much oxygen still remained,

992
01:10:59,087 --> 01:11:02,127
My brain was working
fairly energetically

993
01:11:02,127 --> 01:11:05,324
working out
just how much time we had left,

994
01:11:10,287 --> 01:11:13,407
HACKETT: One of the problems
with extreme altitude climbing

995
01:11:13,407 --> 01:11:15,407
is failure of oxygen systems,

996
01:11:15,407 --> 01:11:20,720
And people die on a regular basis
when their oxygen packs up,

997
01:11:21,847 --> 01:11:23,927
DOUGLAS: And then
there's a bit of a problem,

998
01:11:23,927 --> 01:11:25,407
Tenzing is really struggling,

999
01:11:25,407 --> 01:11:27,967
where before he was
following Hillary quite nicely,

1000
01:11:31,087 --> 01:11:32,567
EDMUND HILLARY: I suddenly noticed

1001
01:11:32,567 --> 01:11:35,247
that Tenzing seemed to be
in some distress,

1002
01:11:35,247 --> 01:11:37,087
And when I looked at him closely,

1003
01:11:37,087 --> 01:11:39,527
I saw that he was breathing
very quickly indeed,

1004
01:11:39,527 --> 01:11:41,687
I immediately examined
his oxygen set

1005
01:11:41,687 --> 01:11:44,647
and found that the outlet
from his oxygen mask

1006
01:11:44,647 --> 01:11:47,286
was almost completely
blocked up with ice,

1007
01:11:52,047 --> 01:11:54,641
Fortunately I was able
to release this ice,

1008
01:11:58,447 --> 01:12:00,127
DOUGLAS: Because
you 're suddenly hypoxic

1009
01:12:00,127 --> 01:12:01,927
and you 're not
thinking straight,

1010
01:12:01,927 --> 01:12:03,687
you may not immediately think,

1011
01:12:03,687 --> 01:12:06,327
"Oh, this is because my oxygen
equipment isn't working right,"

1012
01:12:06,327 --> 01:12:09,683
You just think, "Oh, my God,
I'm incredibly tired all of a sudden,"

1013
01:12:16,887 --> 01:12:21,927
VENABLES: You have this strange,
slightly surreal blur

1014
01:12:21,927 --> 01:12:25,761
of images and thoughts and ideas
going through your head,

1015
01:12:32,447 --> 01:12:37,601
So you have to watch yourself
and watch each other very closely,

1016
01:13:03,167 --> 01:13:04,687
EDMUND HILLARY:
Well, after about an hour

1017
01:13:04,687 --> 01:13:07,607
we had made quite a distance
along the ridge,

1018
01:13:07,607 --> 01:13:10,087
and then we came to a rock bluff

1019
01:13:10,087 --> 01:13:12,327
which barred the way
along the ridge,

1020
01:13:12,327 --> 01:13:15,160
Now, I really thought that perhaps
this was as far as we were going,

1021
01:13:17,727 --> 01:13:19,247
I took photographs

1022
01:13:19,247 --> 01:13:21,407
because the actual rock itself
was very steep

1023
01:13:21,407 --> 01:13:23,796
and we knew that it could stop us,

1024
01:13:30,247 --> 01:13:33,603
PETER HILLARY:
Was that step even climbable?

1025
01:13:35,367 --> 01:13:39,360
And was it climbable
at 29,000 feet?

1026
01:13:40,847 --> 01:13:42,917
No-one had ever gone there before,

1027
01:13:44,287 --> 01:13:46,005
WHITTAKER: It's a hell of a step,

1028
01:13:47,887 --> 01:13:51,800
You look at that and you think,
"Oh, my God, What a decision,"

1029
01:13:55,407 --> 01:13:58,407
But Sir Ed took the gamble
and thought,

1030
01:13:58,407 --> 01:14:01,001
"What the hell,
I'm gonna go for it,"

1031
01:14:06,327 --> 01:14:09,287
EDMUND HILLARY: The only way
to climb it seemed to me a crack

1032
01:14:09,287 --> 01:14:12,727
where the ice was
sticking to the rock,

1033
01:14:12,727 --> 01:14:17,327
and I wasn't at all sure
that the ice would remain in place

1034
01:14:17,327 --> 01:14:19,557
when I was wriggling my way up,

1035
01:14:23,327 --> 01:14:25,682
I was scared stiff,

1036
01:14:30,487 --> 01:14:34,247
VENABLES: He just set forth
up this nearly vertical step

1037
01:14:34,247 --> 01:14:37,727
and wedged himself in this chimney
more or less with his feet,

1038
01:14:37,727 --> 01:14:42,047
his cramponed feet pressing
against the rocks on the left

1039
01:14:42,047 --> 01:14:46,247
and his back pushing out
against the snow on the right,

1040
01:14:46,247 --> 01:14:49,047
and just hoping
the snow wouldn't give way

1041
01:14:49,047 --> 01:14:52,767
and catapult him 11,000 feet
down the Kangshung Face,

1042
01:14:52,767 --> 01:14:57,087
Because it's doubtful whether
Norgay could've held him on the rope

1043
01:14:57,087 --> 01:14:59,442
if he'd come off,

1044
01:15:19,047 --> 01:15:20,807
(ROCKS TUMBLE)

1045
01:15:20,807 --> 01:15:23,087
PETER HILLARY:
Little slabs were breaking off

1046
01:15:23,087 --> 01:15:26,318
and Dad was not really
enjoying the conditions,

1047
01:15:28,167 --> 01:15:30,247
You know, if he was back
in the Southern Alps,

1048
01:15:30,247 --> 01:15:33,247
he'd probably turn around
and try it another day,

1049
01:15:33,247 --> 01:15:36,207
And then, um, that little
internal voice going,

1050
01:15:36,207 --> 01:15:39,127
"Ed, my boy, this is Everest,

1051
01:15:39,127 --> 01:15:41,561
"You 've got to go
the extra distance,"

1052
01:15:48,807 --> 01:15:52,127
EDMUND HILLARY: By jamming back
on the ice with my crampons,

1053
01:15:52,127 --> 01:15:54,127
or ice spikes on my boots,

1054
01:15:54,127 --> 01:15:56,367
and scrambling on the rock in front,

1055
01:15:56,367 --> 01:16:00,758
I was able to wriggle and push my way
up the crack and onto the top,

1056
01:16:03,287 --> 01:16:06,327
After recovering my breath,
I took the rope in

1057
01:16:06,327 --> 01:16:07,927
and, with many a heave,

1058
01:16:07,927 --> 01:16:11,007
and old Tenzing wriggling
and scrambling the same,

1059
01:16:11,007 --> 01:16:13,475
got him onto the top
of the rock too,

1060
01:16:16,367 --> 01:16:18,327
VENABLES: There are times in life,
you know,

1061
01:16:18,327 --> 01:16:21,007
when you have to be
bold and decisive,

1062
01:16:21,007 --> 01:16:26,607
So much hung on Hillary's ability
to pull out all the stops,

1063
01:16:26,607 --> 01:16:29,883
and he was able to give it
that little extra,

1064
01:16:38,567 --> 01:16:40,967
CONEFRE Y: When Hunt had to
go down from the South Col

1065
01:16:40,967 --> 01:16:43,127
he turned to Ed and he said,

1066
01:16:43,127 --> 01:16:46,007
"Look, you know,
this is our last chance,

1067
01:16:46,007 --> 01:16:48,965
"You 're carrying a lot
of people's hopes on your back,"

1068
01:16:51,487 --> 01:16:54,527
WESTMACOTT: What would we do
if they failed?

1069
01:16:54,527 --> 01:16:57,847
Because that was a feeling,
particularly in John Hunt's mind,

1070
01:16:57,847 --> 01:17:01,806
I don't think anybody dared
express an opinion,

1071
01:17:14,007 --> 01:17:15,887
EDMUND HILLARY: We continued on

1072
01:17:15,887 --> 01:17:18,007
and we were getting distinctly tired
and rather desperate,

1073
01:17:18,007 --> 01:17:20,646
for the summit seemed to be
continually eluding us,

1074
01:17:25,567 --> 01:17:27,567
VENABLES: Beyond the Hillary Step,

1075
01:17:27,567 --> 01:17:31,047
it's still a fair distance horizontally
to the summit

1076
01:17:31,047 --> 01:17:35,086
and you 're going over
three or four broad hummocks,

1077
01:17:36,367 --> 01:17:38,887
And as you get to the crest
of one of these hummocks,

1078
01:17:38,887 --> 01:17:41,007
there's another one beyond,

1079
01:17:41,007 --> 01:17:43,680
and you think, "Is this ridge
ever gonna end?"

1080
01:17:55,487 --> 01:17:58,447
DAVID SHLIM: There's just
certain human beings

1081
01:17:58,447 --> 01:18:00,727
able to put one foot
in front of the other,

1082
01:18:00,727 --> 01:18:05,367
you know, relentlessly,
psychologically able to do it,

1083
01:18:05,367 --> 01:18:07,517
whereas other people would fail,

1084
01:18:14,647 --> 01:18:17,327
EDMUND HILLARY: We cut steps
along the top, round bump after bump,

1085
01:18:17,327 --> 01:18:19,204
keeping looking for the top,

1086
01:18:21,447 --> 01:18:25,887
And finally we actually reached
the summit itself,

1087
01:18:25,887 --> 01:18:28,879
(STIRRING MUSIC BUILDS)

1088
01:19:16,887 --> 01:19:19,367
I looked at Tenzing,

1089
01:19:19,367 --> 01:19:22,247
and even underneath his oxygen mask
and balaclava

1090
01:19:22,247 --> 01:19:25,127
I could see his infectious grin
of sheer pleasure,

1091
01:19:25,127 --> 01:19:27,167
We shook hands,

1092
01:19:27,167 --> 01:19:29,522
To Tenzing this was not enough,

1093
01:19:31,407 --> 01:19:33,287
And we thumped each other
on the back

1094
01:19:33,287 --> 01:19:35,164
until we had no breath left,

1095
01:19:37,007 --> 01:19:41,127
I glanced at my watch,
It was 11:30,

1096
01:19:41,127 --> 01:19:44,119
(STIRRING MUSIC CONTINUES)

1097
01:19:48,967 --> 01:19:51,887
On top we only spent
quarter of an hour,

1098
01:19:51,887 --> 01:19:55,207
We were conscious all the time
that our oxygen was running short

1099
01:19:55,207 --> 01:19:58,324
and that we had no time to waste
and we must get down again,

1100
01:19:59,887 --> 01:20:02,765
I took my oxygen off
in order to take photographs,

1101
01:20:06,487 --> 01:20:09,087
Tenzing dug a little hole
in the snow

1102
01:20:09,087 --> 01:20:12,318
and in that he put
a gift to the gods,

1103
01:20:17,287 --> 01:20:19,127
Had a good look round at the view,

1104
01:20:19,127 --> 01:20:20,727
and also I took photographs

1105
01:20:20,727 --> 01:20:22,727
down all the main ridges
of the mountain

1106
01:20:22,727 --> 01:20:25,287
just to have some proof
that we'd been on top,

1107
01:20:36,167 --> 01:20:40,604
And photographed Tenzing waving his
ice axe with four flags tied to it,

1108
01:20:42,687 --> 01:20:45,607
It was a tremendous moment
for both of us,

1109
01:20:45,607 --> 01:20:48,599
(STIRRING MUSIC CONTINUES)

1110
01:21:45,487 --> 01:21:48,479
(STIRRING MUSIC CONTINUES)

1111
01:22:47,407 --> 01:22:50,399
('ONLY TO BE' B Y SIX 60 PLAYS)

1112
01:23:08,807 --> 01:23:11,287
♪ Only to be

1113
01:23:11,287 --> 01:23:13,967
♪ I live in expectancy

1114
01:23:13,967 --> 01:23:16,487
♪ No wonder it feels

1115
01:23:16,487 --> 01:23:19,127
♪ Like this wasn't meant for me

1116
01:23:19,127 --> 01:23:23,407
♪ But, girl, my mind is
so confined

1117
01:23:23,407 --> 01:23:27,807
♪ That there ain't no point
in reasoning

1118
01:23:27,807 --> 01:23:31,207
♪ Now that it's clear to see

1119
01:23:31,207 --> 01:23:33,807
♪ It was all in front of me

1120
01:23:33,807 --> 01:23:38,207
♪ And I'm right where
I'm supposed to be

1121
01:23:38,207 --> 01:23:42,007
♪ Yeah, yeah

1122
01:23:42,007 --> 01:23:46,567
♪ I'm left just turning pages

1123
01:23:46,567 --> 01:23:48,637
♪ Mmm

1124
01:23:50,047 --> 01:23:52,407
♪ Yeah

1125
01:23:52,407 --> 01:23:57,967
♪ Well, I know
that it's worth the ride

1126
01:23:57,967 --> 01:24:01,516
♪ Ain't it good to be alive?

1127
01:24:11,527 --> 01:24:13,927
♪ So what will it be?

1128
01:24:13,927 --> 01:24:16,807
♪ My dreams or my company

1129
01:24:16,807 --> 01:24:19,127
♪ To lose what is me

1130
01:24:19,127 --> 01:24:21,887
♪ Or follow the path I see

1131
01:24:21,887 --> 01:24:26,327
♪ Boy, my mind is so confined

1132
01:24:26,327 --> 01:24:30,447
♪ That I don't even know
where to begin

1133
01:24:30,447 --> 01:24:34,007
♪ But it took me so long to find

1134
01:24:34,007 --> 01:24:36,607
♪ That I could leave it all behind

1135
01:24:36,607 --> 01:24:40,967
♪ 'Cause I've got
everything I'd ever need

1136
01:24:40,967 --> 01:24:44,847
♪ Yeah, yeah

1137
01:24:44,847 --> 01:24:49,727
♪ I'm left just turning pages

1138
01:24:49,727 --> 01:24:52,647
♪ Mmm

1139
01:24:52,647 --> 01:24:55,247
♪ Yeah

1140
01:24:55,247 --> 01:25:00,647
♪ Well, I know
that it's worth the ride

1141
01:25:00,647 --> 01:25:05,198
♪ Ain't it good to be alive?

1142
01:25:14,087 --> 01:25:16,687
♪ 'Cause only to be

1143
01:25:16,687 --> 01:25:19,487
♪ Was all that you got from me

1144
01:25:19,487 --> 01:25:21,927
♪ You told me it's real

1145
01:25:21,927 --> 01:25:24,807
♪ And nothing comes easily

1146
01:25:24,807 --> 01:25:26,727
♪ 'Cause that was the truth

1147
01:25:26,727 --> 01:25:29,287
♪ I was losing all my youth

1148
01:25:29,287 --> 01:25:35,283
♪ To a world
that's fit for someone else

1149
01:25:37,407 --> 01:25:39,687
♪ Yeah

1150
01:25:39,687 --> 01:25:44,247
♪ I'll live just turning pages

1151
01:25:44,247 --> 01:25:46,761
♪ Mmm

1152
01:25:47,927 --> 01:25:50,087
♪ Yeah

1153
01:25:50,087 --> 01:25:55,527
♪ Well, I know
that it's worth the ride

1154
01:25:55,527 --> 01:25:58,447
♪ Oh, whoa, whoa

1155
01:25:58,447 --> 01:26:00,807
♪ Yeah, yeah

1156
01:26:00,807 --> 01:26:05,687
♪ I'm left just turning pages

1157
01:26:05,687 --> 01:26:08,687
♪ Yeah, yeah

1158
01:26:08,687 --> 01:26:11,087
♪ Yeah

1159
01:26:11,087 --> 01:26:16,567
♪ But I know it was worth the ride

1160
01:26:16,567 --> 01:26:22,358
♪ Ain't it good to be alive?

1161
01:26:23,847 --> 01:26:26,687
♪ Alive

1162
01:26:26,687 --> 01:26:32,080
♪ Ain't it good to be alive?

1163
01:26:34,127 --> 01:26:37,961
♪ Alive, ♪

1164
01:26:38,305 --> 01:27:38,376
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