1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:25,590 --> 00:00:28,550 [gentle, somber music] 4 00:00:45,001 --> 00:00:48,048 [Tom] As it's happening, you're thinking something's wrong, 5 00:00:48,091 --> 00:00:49,788 but you don't face right up to it 6 00:00:49,832 --> 00:00:51,834 because either you don't care or you don't want to know. 7 00:00:55,577 --> 00:00:59,407 [man] The damage done to the community and families, 8 00:00:59,450 --> 00:01:01,322 it'll last for a generation. 9 00:01:04,238 --> 00:01:06,370 [John Marchese] It was a great dream. 10 00:01:06,414 --> 00:01:08,198 It was a beautiful dream. 11 00:01:11,332 --> 00:01:13,160 [Richie] I was thinking I was going to become the next, uh, 12 00:01:13,203 --> 00:01:15,118 I don't know, Paul Newman or something. 13 00:01:15,162 --> 00:01:17,077 I thought I'd be in the country. I wanted to live like that. 14 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,906 Why? Read my scripts, turned out to be nothing but a disaster. 15 00:01:23,431 --> 00:01:26,521 [Jocelyne] At first, there is only two sides to the story. 16 00:01:28,131 --> 00:01:30,046 And then there are so many sides, 17 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,092 you don't know where the truth, where the lies are. 18 00:01:33,484 --> 00:01:35,182 And it's get very confusing. 19 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:38,359 But the truth is somewhere. 20 00:02:24,927 --> 00:02:29,018 [light upbeat rock music] 21 00:02:34,241 --> 00:02:35,677 [engine hums] 22 00:02:41,073 --> 00:02:42,988 [Zac] I grew up in Narrowsburg, New York. 23 00:02:43,032 --> 00:02:45,252 It 's a very small town in the upper Delaware. 24 00:02:45,295 --> 00:02:48,994 It 's actually a hamlet and it's one block long, 25 00:02:49,038 --> 00:02:53,999 post office, bank, Chinese restaurant, pizza place. 26 00:02:56,263 --> 00:02:58,656 My life sort of centered around Main Street... 27 00:03:00,571 --> 00:03:03,531 which is nice and also stifling when you're a kid. 28 00:03:03,574 --> 00:03:05,010 [engine rumbles] 29 00:03:09,189 --> 00:03:11,103 [water rushes] 30 00:03:17,109 --> 00:03:19,590 -[Tom] The car looks nice in the sun, don't it? -[Cecilia] Yeah. 31 00:03:19,634 --> 00:03:20,722 [Tom] Nice and bright. 32 00:03:22,289 --> 00:03:25,335 [Cecilia] It's a quaint friendly town. 33 00:03:25,379 --> 00:03:26,815 Where everybody knows everybody. 34 00:03:26,858 --> 00:03:28,208 Everybody knows everybody. 35 00:03:28,251 --> 00:03:29,687 You walk into the coffee shop 36 00:03:29,731 --> 00:03:31,515 and everybody says good morning 37 00:03:31,559 --> 00:03:33,082 whether they know you or not. 38 00:03:36,738 --> 00:03:38,087 If you don't recognize someone, 39 00:03:38,130 --> 00:03:39,915 that's the stranger thing 40 00:03:39,958 --> 00:03:41,656 other than what you do. [chuckles] 41 00:03:41,699 --> 00:03:44,659 -[dark playful music] -[projector whirs] 42 00:04:02,024 --> 00:04:04,287 [John Marchese] When Richie and Jocelyne first showed up, 43 00:04:05,157 --> 00:04:08,509 it was like some people from outer space 44 00:04:08,552 --> 00:04:10,598 had landed in Narrowsburg. 45 00:04:11,642 --> 00:04:12,904 Are you new in town? 46 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:14,471 [Richie] Could be. 47 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:18,736 [John Marchese] They were Hollywood people 48 00:04:18,780 --> 00:04:23,001 and they were like these busy bees of self-promotion 49 00:04:23,045 --> 00:04:25,700 and publicity for themselves. 50 00:04:25,743 --> 00:04:28,093 Hi, how are you? So, my name is Richard Castellano. 51 00:04:28,137 --> 00:04:29,356 I like this beautiful woman I'm with. 52 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:30,748 Don't look, huh? 53 00:04:31,706 --> 00:04:33,273 Here's Jocelyne. 54 00:04:34,926 --> 00:04:36,145 -[Richie smooches] -[Jocelyne giggles] 55 00:04:36,188 --> 00:04:37,407 [Cecilia] I think I met them first. 56 00:04:37,451 --> 00:04:39,061 They came into the store 57 00:04:39,104 --> 00:04:40,802 and they were looking to buy a gun. 58 00:04:41,890 --> 00:04:44,284 They talked that they had just moved up to the area. 59 00:04:44,327 --> 00:04:45,633 They bought a house. 60 00:04:46,198 --> 00:04:48,070 You could tell right away he was from Brooklyn. 61 00:04:48,113 --> 00:04:51,334 I mean, he had this real thick New York accent. 62 00:04:51,943 --> 00:04:56,078 [John Marchese] Richie talked about being a hitman for the mob. 63 00:04:56,774 --> 00:04:59,299 He would come in to the Chatterbox Cafe 64 00:04:59,342 --> 00:05:02,780 and it was like he had purchased the Chatterbox. 65 00:05:02,824 --> 00:05:04,608 He would walk and, "Hey, how are you doing? 66 00:05:04,652 --> 00:05:06,784 Hey, yo, how is everybody? How is everybody?" [mumbles] 67 00:05:06,828 --> 00:05:08,699 He would just get his own coffee. 68 00:05:08,743 --> 00:05:10,353 He wouldn't pay for it. 69 00:05:10,397 --> 00:05:11,963 He would wave to everybody. 70 00:05:12,007 --> 00:05:13,487 And he would walk out. 71 00:05:14,139 --> 00:05:16,490 [Tom] Right away, he got to know everybody. 72 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:19,536 -He was one of us, you know, one of the community. -He was never awkward. 73 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:22,365 It was like he'd been here all his life. 74 00:05:25,499 --> 00:05:27,327 [upbeat, rhythmic music] 75 00:05:27,370 --> 00:05:32,070 The first time I heard about Richie is like 1998. 76 00:05:32,114 --> 00:05:34,421 I was probably 14 or 15 at the time. 77 00:05:34,464 --> 00:05:36,205 And I remember hearing that he was going to be 78 00:05:36,248 --> 00:05:37,424 in this movie called Analyze This 79 00:05:37,467 --> 00:05:38,381 with Robert De Niro. 80 00:05:39,861 --> 00:05:41,602 I watched the screening and then the lights came up 81 00:05:41,645 --> 00:05:43,299 and there he was standing there. 82 00:05:43,865 --> 00:05:46,215 It was incredible that he was here in this small town 83 00:05:46,258 --> 00:05:49,784 and there he was, and I've just seen him in a movie. 84 00:05:49,827 --> 00:05:51,699 [man hums] 85 00:05:51,742 --> 00:05:53,004 [bangs] 86 00:05:54,528 --> 00:05:56,443 -[car trunk thuds] -What are you, some kind of moron? 87 00:05:57,008 --> 00:05:59,054 [Zac] It was probably soon after that that I heard that 88 00:05:59,097 --> 00:06:00,708 Jocelyne was going to start a film festival. 89 00:06:00,751 --> 00:06:02,144 That was sort of what she did. 90 00:06:02,187 --> 00:06:04,886 And they had big plans for Narrowsburg. 91 00:06:05,452 --> 00:06:06,888 They were going to put it on the map. 92 00:06:14,765 --> 00:06:16,680 [forklift beeps] 93 00:06:18,943 --> 00:06:21,076 Oh, yeah, it was topic of the conversation, yeah, 94 00:06:21,119 --> 00:06:25,123 properly made the barbershop, um, post office, all the big spots, yeah. 95 00:06:25,776 --> 00:06:28,431 Yeah, and it was a big deal for a small town to, 96 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:30,128 to have a legitimate film festival. 97 00:06:33,567 --> 00:06:36,744 This is a nice place to live but a hard place to make a living. 98 00:06:37,875 --> 00:06:39,790 And most of the people that make a living here 99 00:06:39,834 --> 00:06:43,664 have two or three jobs or drive 40, 50 miles one way to work. 100 00:06:45,709 --> 00:06:48,495 We saw what happened in Sundance and other places 101 00:06:48,538 --> 00:06:50,758 that had film festivals and we thought, 102 00:06:50,801 --> 00:06:52,324 you know, why not here? 103 00:06:52,368 --> 00:06:54,936 I wanted to be an actor. That was sort of my deal. 104 00:06:54,979 --> 00:06:57,504 And here I am growing up in this super small town, 105 00:06:57,547 --> 00:06:59,114 this guy comes, 106 00:06:59,157 --> 00:07:00,855 what are the chances that this is happening? 107 00:07:00,898 --> 00:07:03,292 Like, this is crazy, like, this is my big break. 108 00:07:12,475 --> 00:07:14,085 I remember Richie and Jocelyne 109 00:07:14,129 --> 00:07:16,174 came to my mom's house for dinner. 110 00:07:17,132 --> 00:07:18,655 They got there and I remember, 111 00:07:18,699 --> 00:07:21,310 I remember looking out the driveway, 112 00:07:21,353 --> 00:07:22,659 "They're here, they're here, they're here!" 113 00:07:22,703 --> 00:07:24,966 You know, I'm very excited about this. 114 00:07:25,009 --> 00:07:28,056 I'm this young kid and I really want to, like, get this guy to like me. 115 00:07:28,099 --> 00:07:31,451 I'm running around, I'm whatever complimenting him. 116 00:07:33,148 --> 00:07:36,760 Richie was like The Music Mancomes to town 117 00:07:36,804 --> 00:07:38,849 making people excited about something. 118 00:07:42,331 --> 00:07:43,506 Folks, listen! 119 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:45,203 I'm Professor Harold Hill. 120 00:07:45,726 --> 00:07:48,555 And I'm here to organize the River City boys band. 121 00:07:49,251 --> 00:07:51,514 [Zac] I think he liked making people feel good. 122 00:07:51,558 --> 00:07:55,779 I think he liked telling people that they were going to be a big star. 123 00:07:55,823 --> 00:07:56,998 It was like when he would talk, 124 00:07:57,041 --> 00:07:58,739 it just seemed possible 125 00:07:58,782 --> 00:08:00,523 whatever he was talking about. 126 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:02,307 And, and if you can be around that, 127 00:08:02,351 --> 00:08:04,527 I mean, that's a nice thing to be around, 128 00:08:04,571 --> 00:08:08,879 especially in a small town where not a lot seems possible. 129 00:08:09,967 --> 00:08:12,883 He really made you believe that you were going to be something. 130 00:08:12,927 --> 00:08:14,363 You could do anything. 131 00:08:16,017 --> 00:08:17,497 And the first thing you were going to do is be in this movie 132 00:08:17,540 --> 00:08:18,672 that was going to get shot. 133 00:08:19,586 --> 00:08:21,326 The way he pitched the story was a movie 134 00:08:21,370 --> 00:08:25,940 about a guy who tries to get out of a gangster world, 135 00:08:25,983 --> 00:08:29,509 and move upstate to a small town with his son. 136 00:08:30,553 --> 00:08:33,469 Gangsters from the city follow him up there 137 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:35,297 and kill his wife. 138 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:38,605 And then somehow he gets charged with the murder 139 00:08:38,648 --> 00:08:39,910 and ends up in jail. 140 00:08:40,781 --> 00:08:42,870 And, and everyone's after his son. 141 00:08:45,046 --> 00:08:46,743 The most important thing about the pitch 142 00:08:46,787 --> 00:08:49,485 was that it's all going to take place in Narrowsburg 143 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:51,139 and is going to put the city on the map. 144 00:08:52,227 --> 00:08:53,750 This was an opportunity. 145 00:08:53,794 --> 00:08:55,752 You know, I was going to get in that movie. 146 00:08:55,796 --> 00:08:58,363 I mean, there was no question in my mind. 147 00:09:00,844 --> 00:09:03,891 And I started, like, hanging out in the office with him 148 00:09:03,934 --> 00:09:05,849 and Jocelyne and everyone. 149 00:09:06,502 --> 00:09:08,939 Richie was like, "Joss, why aren't you-- 150 00:09:08,983 --> 00:09:10,506 you should be paying this kid." 151 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:11,986 Like, "This kid's here all the time," 152 00:09:12,029 --> 00:09:13,770 like, "you got to pay him something." 153 00:09:14,336 --> 00:09:16,512 -[man] I'm going ahead, Jeff. -[man 2] Good morning, Jocelyne. 154 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:18,949 -[man] What, moving up already? -[woman] Look what you've found. 155 00:09:20,168 --> 00:09:21,473 [man] I know nothing yet. 156 00:09:21,517 --> 00:09:22,997 [Zac] Jocelyne... 157 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,260 was just sort of around in the background. 158 00:09:25,826 --> 00:09:28,393 And they were like a good couple. They seemed like a good couple. 159 00:09:31,005 --> 00:09:33,442 Jocelyne was, according to reputation, 160 00:09:33,485 --> 00:09:36,793 this woman who had run the Hollywood film festival. 161 00:09:37,359 --> 00:09:40,405 And now she was going to bring Hollywood 162 00:09:40,449 --> 00:09:42,669 to this little town of Narrowsburg. 163 00:09:46,368 --> 00:09:48,718 The only thing I ever knew about her was she was from France. 164 00:09:48,762 --> 00:09:51,199 No, she was actually from South Africa 165 00:09:51,242 --> 00:09:52,766 -she told me at one time. -Was it? 166 00:09:52,809 --> 00:09:54,158 -Well, I know she had-- -Or I found out later on 167 00:09:54,202 --> 00:09:55,812 she was from South Africa. 168 00:09:55,856 --> 00:09:57,640 -She told me France. -But she sounded like she-- 169 00:09:57,684 --> 00:09:59,816 okay, well, she sounded like, 170 00:09:59,860 --> 00:10:01,557 to me, like, she was French. 171 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:03,690 But I heard she was from South Africa somehow. 172 00:10:04,255 --> 00:10:06,257 [laughs] You're doing good with that. 173 00:10:06,301 --> 00:10:09,870 [interviewer] Can you first of all just tell us your name? 174 00:10:09,913 --> 00:10:12,263 Okay, should I say it in French or in English? 175 00:10:12,307 --> 00:10:15,266 Should I work, I mean, um, the accent, 176 00:10:15,310 --> 00:10:17,051 because now I'm in between the both accents, 177 00:10:17,094 --> 00:10:19,488 so how do you want me to say my name? 178 00:10:19,531 --> 00:10:21,577 In American way, a French way? 179 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:25,015 -[interviewer] However you feel more comfortable. -Okay. 180 00:10:25,059 --> 00:10:29,019 My name is Marie Jocelyne Plante. I was born, I was born Plante 181 00:10:29,063 --> 00:10:32,327 and in a small island called Reunion Island. 182 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:34,677 It's a very small community. 183 00:10:34,721 --> 00:10:36,723 Everyone know each other. 184 00:10:36,766 --> 00:10:39,116 Uh, I wanted to establish my own rules, you know, 185 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,468 and, and to be free to think and to do what I wanted to do 186 00:10:43,512 --> 00:10:45,993 and to think for myself, you know, so. 187 00:10:46,036 --> 00:10:48,604 [light, gentle music] 188 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:52,739 I knew it was a world out there. 189 00:10:55,002 --> 00:10:56,917 When I was young, I love Western, 190 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,661 I love cowboys movies, cowboys, the cowgirls, the open space. 191 00:11:03,227 --> 00:11:05,577 -Is it a pretty place, Steve? -Uh-huh. 192 00:11:05,621 --> 00:11:06,927 It's the old Jamison place, 193 00:11:06,970 --> 00:11:08,711 about 40 miles outside of Tascosa. 194 00:11:09,494 --> 00:11:11,714 Can we move right in and start living there? 195 00:11:11,758 --> 00:11:14,804 [Jocelyne] When you're a child, America, it's a, it's dream, you know, 196 00:11:14,848 --> 00:11:16,414 every child, you know, in this world 197 00:11:16,458 --> 00:11:18,503 somehow dreams of going to America. 198 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:23,421 I came here in 1989. 199 00:11:25,206 --> 00:11:27,991 I do know when I landed in Los Angeles, 200 00:11:28,035 --> 00:11:32,256 I felt, I felt like more home, you know. 201 00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:35,869 I met Richard, um... 202 00:11:38,132 --> 00:11:40,525 at the Hollywood Film Festival that I was part of. 203 00:11:42,789 --> 00:11:45,835 Before him, I never met anyone really, uh, 204 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,316 criminal, so... [chuckles] 205 00:11:48,838 --> 00:11:51,319 You know, being Italian-American, uh, 206 00:11:51,362 --> 00:11:53,974 coming from, I don't know if he comes from the mob 207 00:11:54,017 --> 00:11:57,368 or what but I was fascinated by it, I have to admit. 208 00:11:57,978 --> 00:12:00,981 [light, playful music] 209 00:12:03,026 --> 00:12:05,594 [Rich] My father is an American dream story. 210 00:12:05,637 --> 00:12:09,685 My father's dream was always to be a superstar. 211 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:11,339 It was always to be famous. 212 00:12:11,861 --> 00:12:14,037 You know, I was in his movie Whacking Cows. 213 00:12:14,908 --> 00:12:18,738 I looked up to him a lot and I feel like he was almost like a superhero to me. 214 00:12:19,434 --> 00:12:21,436 He didn't need De Niro to say, "All right. 215 00:12:21,479 --> 00:12:22,785 You-- You're the star of a movie." 216 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:23,873 He was a star already. 217 00:12:23,917 --> 00:12:24,787 Come on, get out. 218 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:36,190 The methology has risen, let's go. 219 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:37,626 I love the camera. 220 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:40,585 You know, I was growing up the way I did, you know, 221 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:42,457 I was always looking for attention. 222 00:12:43,327 --> 00:12:46,809 How much more attention can you get than this? [chuckles] 223 00:12:47,418 --> 00:12:50,204 My mother winged up in a mental institution, 224 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:53,947 and my father who once again doing time. 225 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:57,515 And my life just felt complete 226 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,040 when I hang out with the, uh, the tough guys 227 00:13:00,083 --> 00:13:03,304 or good fellas as we say, you know, in our world. 228 00:13:04,435 --> 00:13:09,136 I started robbing banks, uh, armored car heists. 229 00:13:09,179 --> 00:13:11,051 [man] Your fucking gun. Drop the fucking gun! 230 00:13:11,791 --> 00:13:13,053 Get on the ground. 231 00:13:13,096 --> 00:13:14,968 [Richie] And before you knew it, I was in Attica 232 00:13:15,011 --> 00:13:16,752 doing 12 years. 233 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:19,973 I got sentenced on a, uh, a payroll robbery that I did. 234 00:13:20,495 --> 00:13:21,801 [tires screech] 235 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:23,890 I wanted to get out of that life. 236 00:13:23,933 --> 00:13:25,413 If you saw Whacking Cows, 237 00:13:25,456 --> 00:13:27,502 it's a story of a guy 238 00:13:27,545 --> 00:13:29,417 trying to make his life better. 239 00:13:30,505 --> 00:13:33,334 I'm just tired of this life. I want to do something different. 240 00:13:34,117 --> 00:13:37,294 And everybody I spoke would just naturally would say, 241 00:13:37,338 --> 00:13:39,731 "You got a nice personality, I like that. 242 00:13:39,775 --> 00:13:41,211 You should become an actor. 243 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:44,562 You can live your life on film 244 00:13:44,606 --> 00:13:47,130 and not have all these people chasing you for real." 245 00:13:47,914 --> 00:13:49,916 And I say, "Hey, that's a great idea, man." 246 00:13:49,959 --> 00:13:51,656 [upbeat music] 247 00:13:54,355 --> 00:13:55,182 [gun bangs] 248 00:13:55,922 --> 00:13:57,053 [siren wails] 249 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,056 And that's how my career started in acting. 250 00:14:01,362 --> 00:14:05,409 And then an agent said, "Listen, De Niro's doing a film, 251 00:14:05,453 --> 00:14:06,541 and I got you in. 252 00:14:06,584 --> 00:14:07,977 You know, go read for them." 253 00:14:08,499 --> 00:14:11,372 I went in and Bobby was sitting there. 254 00:14:11,415 --> 00:14:12,895 He said, "Were you ever on film before?" 255 00:14:12,939 --> 00:14:14,854 I said, "A thousand times!" 256 00:14:14,897 --> 00:14:17,160 I said, "At the police station had all my number." 257 00:14:17,204 --> 00:14:19,162 He said, "I like this guy." 258 00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:20,294 You're good. 259 00:14:20,337 --> 00:14:22,296 No, no, you're good, Doc. 260 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,865 He said, "I'm going to make you Jimmy Boots." 261 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:29,042 And I looked at like 15 pages. 262 00:14:30,043 --> 00:14:31,827 Well, that was relatively painless. 263 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:32,959 -[slaps] -Shut the fuck up. 264 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:34,874 That hurt. 265 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:36,397 [Richie] Every breath I took 266 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,442 on that set, I enjoyed it. 267 00:14:39,704 --> 00:14:41,793 I loved working with Robert De Niro. 268 00:14:42,316 --> 00:14:43,970 It was like being with God. 269 00:14:46,015 --> 00:14:48,104 When we wrapped, I started crying 270 00:14:48,148 --> 00:14:51,542 because I felt bad about leaving Jimmy Boots, 271 00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:53,805 the character that I had played for three months. 272 00:14:53,849 --> 00:14:56,069 I actually felt like two different people. 273 00:14:57,157 --> 00:14:59,202 That's what happens in every movie I'm in. 274 00:14:59,986 --> 00:15:02,858 I become the character, and the character comes to life. 275 00:15:04,816 --> 00:15:06,862 [siren wails] 276 00:15:09,734 --> 00:15:12,041 [producer] Can you talk about meeting Jocelyne? 277 00:15:12,085 --> 00:15:14,043 I thought she was a wonderful lady. 278 00:15:14,087 --> 00:15:15,610 And I wanted to hold onto it, 279 00:15:15,653 --> 00:15:17,525 and that's how I got deeply involved with her, 280 00:15:18,656 --> 00:15:20,093 because I liked her that much. 281 00:15:21,833 --> 00:15:24,880 [Jocelyne] I was attracted to Richard by his fun side. 282 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:28,449 He had a very fun side about him, always joking. 283 00:15:28,492 --> 00:15:30,581 But my age, I don't think so, 284 00:15:30,625 --> 00:15:34,150 you just have a relationship just to have a relationship, you know? 285 00:15:34,194 --> 00:15:36,805 You have to be in love. Yes, I was in love with him. 286 00:15:38,502 --> 00:15:41,636 Actually, it happened very, on the spur of the moment 287 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:43,029 that he proposed to me. 288 00:15:43,072 --> 00:15:44,204 One morning he woke up and he said, 289 00:15:44,247 --> 00:15:45,640 "Let's go and get married." 290 00:15:45,683 --> 00:15:46,771 And I said, "Okay." 291 00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:52,560 [Richie] I don't know if this is too personal to tell the world, 292 00:15:52,603 --> 00:15:55,302 but making love to her, 293 00:15:55,345 --> 00:15:57,043 I probably cried like a girl sometimes 294 00:15:57,086 --> 00:15:59,915 because I'm an emotional guy, 295 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:01,656 and especially when I make love 296 00:16:01,699 --> 00:16:03,527 and when I care about the person. 297 00:16:04,485 --> 00:16:06,269 I've always been loyal to a girl I was with. 298 00:16:06,313 --> 00:16:09,011 And they'll all tell you. Right, girls? You out there? 299 00:16:09,055 --> 00:16:10,534 You know, I tell the truth. 300 00:16:10,578 --> 00:16:13,146 [dark, playful music] 301 00:16:15,626 --> 00:16:18,281 Hey, Isaac, do you ever think of getting out of here? 302 00:16:18,325 --> 00:16:20,022 -And go where? -I don't know. 303 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:21,719 Maybe we'll start a farm or something. 304 00:16:21,763 --> 00:16:23,634 Raise some cows, who knows? 305 00:16:29,771 --> 00:16:32,513 [Jocelyne] We wanted to get out of New York 306 00:16:32,556 --> 00:16:33,775 to start over again. 307 00:16:35,168 --> 00:16:38,127 We wanted that little tranquil life, you know? 308 00:16:39,302 --> 00:16:43,872 And I just wanted to see the, the, you know the nice side of Narrowsburg. 309 00:16:44,655 --> 00:16:47,267 [dark, playful music] 310 00:17:03,892 --> 00:17:06,155 -Hey, what's up, Mike? -[Mike] What's up, Richie? 311 00:17:06,199 --> 00:17:08,331 -You got that money? -What money? 312 00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:12,161 -So now you forgot? -I paid you last night. What are you talking about? 313 00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:15,121 -Forget about it. -I got a bad memory. 314 00:17:15,164 --> 00:17:17,036 [Mike] Yeah, well, let's work on it. 315 00:17:19,690 --> 00:17:21,649 [Zac] Me and him hit it off fairly quickly. 316 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,915 One day, he started talking about starting an acting school. 317 00:17:28,308 --> 00:17:30,571 And I'm going to be the first student 318 00:17:30,614 --> 00:17:33,661 in the Richard Castellano School of Acting. 319 00:17:35,532 --> 00:17:38,187 Every single morning I would see him and, "Come on. 320 00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:40,755 Come to my acting classes." I said, "Are you kidding me? 321 00:17:40,798 --> 00:17:42,452 I don't need no acting class. 322 00:17:42,496 --> 00:17:45,455 I can act fine all on my own." [chuckles] 323 00:17:45,499 --> 00:17:47,457 That's how it started out with him, and 324 00:17:47,501 --> 00:17:49,764 before you knew it, he had a thing on Main Street there, 325 00:17:49,807 --> 00:17:52,810 and everybody and their brothers we're coming down here to take acting classes. 326 00:17:52,854 --> 00:17:55,552 [John Cirelli] I think it was $20, $25 a weekend. 327 00:17:55,596 --> 00:17:57,685 My granddaughter learned to be an actress. 328 00:17:58,164 --> 00:18:00,340 She learned to talk in front of people. 329 00:18:00,383 --> 00:18:03,169 She didn't-- She wasn't afraid after that. 330 00:18:03,212 --> 00:18:04,474 It helped her in school. 331 00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:08,696 [Zac] I watched the class grow into 25, 332 00:18:08,739 --> 00:18:10,959 30 people, 35 people. 333 00:18:11,394 --> 00:18:12,569 And then I got a camera. 334 00:18:13,266 --> 00:18:14,397 [man] Action! 335 00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:23,014 [Zac] I don't remember there being a script, 336 00:18:23,058 --> 00:18:25,104 but it was all kind of coming out of his head. 337 00:18:26,017 --> 00:18:27,106 [man] Action. 338 00:18:27,149 --> 00:18:28,846 You fucking bitch. [chuckles] 339 00:18:29,412 --> 00:18:31,327 You're supposed to be a cop? Aren't you a little young to be a cop? 340 00:18:31,371 --> 00:18:34,330 [chuckles] You never saw 21 Jump Street? 341 00:18:34,374 --> 00:18:37,594 [Zac] There's like a detective, and there's a murder, and there's a camp 342 00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:39,944 because there was a lot of young kids in the class. 343 00:18:39,988 --> 00:18:41,337 I asked you, what's the matter? 344 00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:45,080 [Zac] There's grandparents. 345 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:47,169 There was like a crazy lady, and it was just 346 00:18:47,213 --> 00:18:49,519 the story would just get bigger and bigger and bigger. 347 00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:52,957 It was totally improv. 348 00:18:53,001 --> 00:18:55,177 It was like, "You're the brother, you're the sister. 349 00:18:55,221 --> 00:18:56,787 Your mom just got killed, 350 00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:59,225 and you think that it's your father's fault 351 00:18:59,268 --> 00:19:01,227 and she thinks it's your fault; go!" 352 00:19:02,532 --> 00:19:05,056 But there wasn't a whole lot to do in Narrowsburg. 353 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,797 And it was a-- It was fun. 354 00:19:06,841 --> 00:19:08,190 [laughs] 355 00:19:10,453 --> 00:19:13,717 [John Marchese] And there was these people who, they were farmers, 356 00:19:13,761 --> 00:19:16,329 and, uh, kids from the local high school 357 00:19:16,372 --> 00:19:19,375 shouting like, "Fuck you!" "No, fuck you!" 358 00:19:19,419 --> 00:19:21,682 "No, hey, fuck you, fuck you!" 359 00:19:21,725 --> 00:19:24,337 And that was [chuckles] the Richie Castellano School of Acting. 360 00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:25,903 That's it, what can you do? 361 00:19:25,947 --> 00:19:27,731 [John Marchese] They would put on this act 362 00:19:27,775 --> 00:19:30,908 where Jocelyne would pick up the phone and say, you know, 363 00:19:30,952 --> 00:19:33,128 "It's Bobby" [chuckles]. 364 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:37,219 And Richie would come and start talking on the phone. 365 00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:38,829 Of course, everybody thought he had a call 366 00:19:38,873 --> 00:19:40,788 from Robert De Niro, you know, who else? 367 00:19:42,006 --> 00:19:46,620 Um, I think that was just part of the, uh, promotion. 368 00:19:54,454 --> 00:19:56,020 [bells ring] 369 00:19:58,632 --> 00:20:00,677 [man] Can anybody join this parade or what? 370 00:20:01,635 --> 00:20:03,158 -How are you? -[woman] Is that Richie? 371 00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:04,246 It's the film festival. 372 00:20:04,290 --> 00:20:05,900 Beat it, kids, you're [mumbles]. 373 00:20:06,466 --> 00:20:10,426 [Zac] I made a commercial for the first film festival. 374 00:20:10,992 --> 00:20:15,257 And it was this like huge production, and it was on TV. 375 00:20:15,301 --> 00:20:17,303 [clock ticks] 376 00:20:17,346 --> 00:20:19,479 [narrator] Don't sleep through your dream. Live it 377 00:20:19,522 --> 00:20:22,351 at the Narrowsburg International Independent Film Festival, 378 00:20:22,395 --> 00:20:24,266 August 2nd through the 6th. 379 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:28,183 Meet producers, actors, screenwriters, and directors. 380 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:31,882 Attend daily seminars, screenings, and nightly events. 381 00:20:31,926 --> 00:20:34,015 Learn and celebrate the art of indie film 382 00:20:34,058 --> 00:20:35,886 in the beautiful Catskill Mountains. 383 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:38,019 For information visit our website 384 00:20:38,062 --> 00:20:40,282 at narrowsburgfilmfestival.com. 385 00:20:42,893 --> 00:20:45,592 [Zac] The first film festival was amazing. 386 00:20:45,635 --> 00:20:47,898 I mean, it was a big deal and there were real movies. 387 00:20:48,377 --> 00:20:51,075 The whole place was covered with balloons, 388 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,427 and the ceiling. And Mekhi Phifer was there. 389 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:57,821 Linda Hopkins, who was this jazz singer, performed. 390 00:20:57,865 --> 00:21:00,259 It was really happening in a lot of ways. 391 00:21:01,172 --> 00:21:04,132 [John Marchese] There were people around packing that little theater. 392 00:21:06,613 --> 00:21:08,397 [Richie] We were the talk of the town. 393 00:21:08,441 --> 00:21:10,225 There's the Castellanos! 394 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:11,879 They had it in the papers. 395 00:21:11,922 --> 00:21:14,838 They call us, uh, real McCoy. [chuckles] 396 00:21:15,317 --> 00:21:17,058 [Richie] They loved us so much in Narrowsburg, 397 00:21:17,101 --> 00:21:19,495 they named a hamburger after me! 398 00:21:19,539 --> 00:21:21,541 They had the Castellano Burger. 399 00:21:21,584 --> 00:21:25,936 I actually thought that they would change the name 400 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:28,765 of Narrowsburg to Castellanosburg. 401 00:21:28,809 --> 00:21:31,507 Thank you so much. I'm so happy that you're all here. 402 00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:35,598 Please have a nice night. God bless everyone and all my fellow actors. 403 00:21:35,642 --> 00:21:38,949 My wonderful wife who keeps me on the straight narrow. 404 00:21:38,993 --> 00:21:40,821 My brother chose those words. 405 00:21:40,864 --> 00:21:42,431 So thank you once again. 406 00:21:42,475 --> 00:21:44,825 God bless everybody, okay? Thank you. 407 00:21:44,868 --> 00:21:47,044 [audience cheers] 408 00:21:47,567 --> 00:21:50,613 I have to thank right out of the gate... 409 00:21:51,614 --> 00:21:54,443 Jocelyne and Richard Castellano. 410 00:21:54,487 --> 00:21:58,099 They told me about a dream that they had. 411 00:21:58,142 --> 00:22:00,144 [audience cheers] 412 00:22:03,017 --> 00:22:09,284 Believe me, it will be a Sundance on the East Coast. 413 00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:11,721 [audience cheers] 414 00:22:13,114 --> 00:22:15,812 [sings in foreign language] 415 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:25,387 [Jocelyne] I just wanted to do a good festival. 416 00:22:25,431 --> 00:22:28,303 I just wanted to do something good. And I felt that, you know, 417 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:31,262 having this kind of attention would make him believe 418 00:22:31,306 --> 00:22:33,743 that he can be someone. He can be somebody. 419 00:22:33,787 --> 00:22:35,571 He can, he can really change his life 420 00:22:35,615 --> 00:22:39,836 from mob wannabe to, you know, 421 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,795 have a, have a good Hollywood story. 422 00:22:41,838 --> 00:22:43,362 That's what I wanted for him. 423 00:22:44,667 --> 00:22:47,409 You know, like, like in the movies, you know? [chuckles] 424 00:22:48,192 --> 00:22:49,672 [sings in foreign language] 425 00:23:08,648 --> 00:23:10,432 [Zac] Soon after the festival, 426 00:23:10,476 --> 00:23:12,086 Richard was always talking about 427 00:23:12,129 --> 00:23:14,480 making the movie Four Deadly Reasons, 428 00:23:14,523 --> 00:23:16,525 and, "You're all going to be invited to be in it." 429 00:23:16,569 --> 00:23:20,007 [dark, playful music] 430 00:23:23,097 --> 00:23:25,055 [Tom] I tell you exactly what he said to me. 431 00:23:25,099 --> 00:23:27,144 "We're making this movie in Narrowsburg." 432 00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:29,320 And he said, "We're going to use a lot of local people." 433 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:31,714 But this came with more than just making a film. 434 00:23:31,758 --> 00:23:33,760 It came with putting the town on the map. 435 00:23:34,543 --> 00:23:38,025 [Jocelyne] I've never produced a film before, before that one. 436 00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:39,983 Richard is no organizer. 437 00:23:40,027 --> 00:23:45,554 [chuckles] And so, uh, he said, "Organize it, make it happen, 438 00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:48,122 and I will find the finance for it." 439 00:23:49,863 --> 00:23:52,474 I asked, "Do you want to be in the movie? Come and audition." 440 00:23:52,518 --> 00:23:55,129 "You want to invest in the movie? Let me know." 441 00:23:55,172 --> 00:23:57,305 "You want to invest? Yeah, I'll take 5,000." 442 00:23:59,525 --> 00:24:01,352 [Dr. Paul] I saw the movie Analyze This. 443 00:24:01,396 --> 00:24:03,180 I was very impressed by it. 444 00:24:03,224 --> 00:24:05,182 He wanted to know if I'd be interested 445 00:24:05,226 --> 00:24:08,272 in giving him some money for this venture. 446 00:24:08,316 --> 00:24:10,666 "Hey, Doc, how are you? We need your help. 447 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:13,495 You're a good guy, let's get it together, come on!" 448 00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:18,761 Richie used to go down here every day, telling people, "Come over, come over, 449 00:24:18,805 --> 00:24:21,024 and, you know, do some acting. I'll get you in a movie." 450 00:24:21,068 --> 00:24:23,636 He said people are going to be movie stars. 451 00:24:26,116 --> 00:24:29,032 Everybody wants to be a part of that Hollywood glitz and glamor. 452 00:24:31,034 --> 00:24:34,298 People began to talk, and I think they were lining up to give Richie money. 453 00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:36,692 [soft chatter] 454 00:24:36,736 --> 00:24:37,867 [woman] Yeah, bring everything. 455 00:24:39,303 --> 00:24:42,393 Great, once you go into the camp and, uh... 456 00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:45,005 [Zac] He held a very large audition, 457 00:24:45,048 --> 00:24:46,833 and everybody I knew probably was there. 458 00:24:46,876 --> 00:24:48,008 I mean, it was packed. 459 00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:53,579 Do you wanted me to fill this out, but what does this stuff mean? 460 00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,319 Social Security number. 461 00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:57,800 Over here put question mark. 462 00:24:57,844 --> 00:24:59,410 You're playing Dominic. 463 00:24:59,454 --> 00:25:01,238 Okay, I don't know my Social Security number. 464 00:25:01,282 --> 00:25:04,024 Okay, just put-- I don't know [laughs]. 465 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,896 [audience cheers] 466 00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:20,127 [whistles] 467 00:25:21,781 --> 00:25:24,435 [Paul] Cut. Okay, good. Okay, that was really good. 468 00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:27,917 Guys, I know it doesn't look natural. 469 00:25:27,961 --> 00:25:30,877 Background action, everybody here starts cheering 470 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,748 and doing your thing. Cheerleaders start cheering. 471 00:25:32,792 --> 00:25:35,011 And then we call action. 472 00:25:35,055 --> 00:25:37,057 Then we kind of look to you. 473 00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:39,146 Okay, one more rehearsal. 474 00:25:39,189 --> 00:25:41,496 [dark, playful music] 475 00:25:41,975 --> 00:25:44,194 [Zac] I was cast as his son. 476 00:25:44,238 --> 00:25:47,633 I'm Dominic, I'm this, like, basketball star. 477 00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:51,462 And I was really excited to have this opportunity 478 00:25:51,506 --> 00:25:53,943 that was seemingly like once in a lifetime. 479 00:25:55,771 --> 00:25:58,339 That's when I smoked my first cigarette 480 00:25:58,382 --> 00:26:01,385 and that's when I had my first beer. 481 00:26:03,518 --> 00:26:04,867 It was really happening. 482 00:26:04,911 --> 00:26:06,477 I mean, there's big trucks there 483 00:26:06,521 --> 00:26:10,177 with real professionals and gangsters. 484 00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:14,573 All of them had been in, like, Analyze Thisor Casino. 485 00:26:16,923 --> 00:26:21,231 Richie was taking it very seriously. He loved that movie. 486 00:26:21,275 --> 00:26:24,713 I want you four guys to start sticking together. 487 00:26:24,757 --> 00:26:27,150 I want you to start creating a little bit of attitude. 488 00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:29,631 And I want you to start feeling like the Four Deadly Reasons. 489 00:26:31,459 --> 00:26:33,461 [Paul] I had submitted a documentary 490 00:26:33,504 --> 00:26:35,115 to the Narrowsburg Film Festival. 491 00:26:36,116 --> 00:26:39,336 Jocelyne, said, "Well, I love your documentary. 492 00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:41,164 Would you be interested in directing this?" 493 00:26:41,774 --> 00:26:43,689 Okay, so, so Zac. 494 00:26:44,341 --> 00:26:46,648 [Joe] My friend, Paul Borghese, great director, 495 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:49,129 he says, "I want to shoot this movie 496 00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:50,609 in Narrowsburg, New York." 497 00:26:51,522 --> 00:26:54,395 When I had the opportunity to write, uh, a mob film 498 00:26:54,438 --> 00:26:55,831 with, you know, it's in my blood. 499 00:26:55,875 --> 00:26:57,485 I wanted to prove that I could write more 500 00:26:57,528 --> 00:26:59,705 than what people thought I was capable. 501 00:26:59,748 --> 00:27:01,620 That I could see everything coming 502 00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:03,622 if I got involved in Hollywood. 503 00:27:04,057 --> 00:27:05,580 [Paul] All right, I'm going to, 504 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:06,886 go through this with you guys a little bit. 505 00:27:06,929 --> 00:27:08,017 [man 2] All right, do it, shall we? 506 00:27:08,061 --> 00:27:09,497 Yeah, yeah, dog face. 507 00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:11,151 Why don't you get another tattoo? 508 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,980 Mad dog, mad dog face. 509 00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:15,503 When are you going to get it right, Tommy? 510 00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:19,333 Yo, Jesus Christ, we're trying to talk over here. 511 00:27:20,073 --> 00:27:22,031 Yeah, asshole, I'm trying to read. 512 00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:26,296 So you guys are a little funny almost. 513 00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:29,038 Like you talk, I mean, you're a little funny. A little bit of, okay? 514 00:27:30,997 --> 00:27:34,914 [Paul] We were making what was supposed to be mob comedy, 515 00:27:34,957 --> 00:27:36,959 and the funny thing was that almost everybody that went up there, 516 00:27:37,003 --> 00:27:38,526 Richie would go, "Yeah. 517 00:27:38,569 --> 00:27:40,006 You're good, you're good, yeah, I like you. 518 00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:41,572 I got something for you in this movie. 519 00:27:41,616 --> 00:27:42,922 I got something for you in this movie. 520 00:27:42,965 --> 00:27:44,010 You're going to be in my movie." 521 00:27:44,053 --> 00:27:45,185 [laugh] 522 00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:46,969 In all honesty, in all honesty, 523 00:27:47,013 --> 00:27:49,276 I wish everybody had this man's heart, because I know, 524 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,582 if it was up to him, everybody in this county will be working on this film, 525 00:27:51,626 --> 00:27:53,889 including, including my parents, their parents, 526 00:27:53,933 --> 00:27:56,675 my cousins, my cousins' cousins. 527 00:27:56,718 --> 00:27:57,719 -That's right. -He's a good man. 528 00:27:57,763 --> 00:27:59,460 And that-- I mean that. 529 00:27:59,503 --> 00:28:01,114 Uh, Chris, can you make sure we aren't, 530 00:28:01,157 --> 00:28:03,072 the officers' communication with someone, yeah. 531 00:28:03,116 --> 00:28:04,857 -[Chris] They're doing it right now. -[Jocelyne] Okay. 532 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:07,598 You're going to be in a cop car, in the passenger side. 533 00:28:07,642 --> 00:28:09,949 Hey, Richie, you see this bank? 534 00:28:09,992 --> 00:28:11,341 -Right. -We talked about this before. 535 00:28:11,385 --> 00:28:12,952 Okay, make sure you're hitting. 536 00:28:12,995 --> 00:28:14,127 Roll sound! 537 00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:15,041 [woman] Sounds rolling. 538 00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:16,477 [man] Action! 539 00:28:19,349 --> 00:28:20,307 [Paul] Action caught. 540 00:28:30,012 --> 00:28:32,536 Trooper, Bobby Venuti just escaped. 541 00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:33,929 I want the bridge blocked. 542 00:28:36,845 --> 00:28:40,588 [man] All right, we're in the set here for two excellent characters 543 00:28:40,631 --> 00:28:42,503 -in Four Deadly Reasons. -Thank you. 544 00:28:42,546 --> 00:28:44,287 [man] How do you like the people on the shoot here? 545 00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:47,682 -Everyone's excellent. Yeah. -It's a great filmy atmosphere here. 546 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,729 You know, you have a cast from other, other, other movies we did, 547 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:54,210 Analyze This,and this and that, or whatever it is. 548 00:28:54,254 --> 00:28:56,125 Analyze there, here, anywhere. 549 00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:58,345 -[man] Hey, little Vitti. -[Joe] Say hello, Vitti. 550 00:28:58,388 --> 00:28:59,694 [man] You were in Analyze This, weren't you? 551 00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:01,217 -Yeah. -What did you play? 552 00:29:01,261 --> 00:29:02,305 The little son. 553 00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:05,700 We'd like to say hello Mister and Missis Castellano 554 00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:07,223 for bringing this whole thing together. 555 00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:08,921 [man] All right, where are they? 556 00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:10,313 -We don't know where they are. -Richie and Jocelyne 557 00:29:10,357 --> 00:29:11,619 but they're around-- 558 00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:12,925 [man] I have to go find them too. 559 00:29:14,448 --> 00:29:15,405 [man] Chris, what part are you planning in the picture? 560 00:29:15,449 --> 00:29:16,667 Right now I'm playing a minor role 561 00:29:16,711 --> 00:29:19,409 as, uh, a patron at a coffee shop. 562 00:29:20,541 --> 00:29:23,022 [man] And, uh, you like the people on the set? 563 00:29:23,065 --> 00:29:24,806 The people on the set are really great, 564 00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:26,808 especially Rich-- Richard Castellano. 565 00:29:26,852 --> 00:29:28,462 He does a great job with everybody. 566 00:29:28,505 --> 00:29:30,333 And I think it's going to really be a good movie. 567 00:29:30,986 --> 00:29:33,336 I'm staying here from, uh, New York City. 568 00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:37,210 I came up to, uh, Narrowsburg. 569 00:29:37,253 --> 00:29:38,820 You know, it's a pretty nice town up here. 570 00:29:38,864 --> 00:29:40,430 You know, it's a little quiet, you know? 571 00:29:41,301 --> 00:29:44,043 You know, I thought, uh, I thought it was a ghost town 572 00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:46,393 but there are, there are really people living here, you know? 573 00:29:48,569 --> 00:29:50,789 And what do people do up here, actually do? 574 00:29:51,441 --> 00:29:52,965 [man] They canoe down at Delaware. 575 00:29:53,008 --> 00:29:55,576 They canoe down-- I knew a few guys that canoed. 576 00:29:55,619 --> 00:29:58,622 But that-- Those were guys that, you know, uh, 577 00:29:58,666 --> 00:30:00,886 like, escaped from prisons that were near the water. 578 00:30:04,498 --> 00:30:05,629 It's scripted. 579 00:30:06,065 --> 00:30:07,631 We're going to have to, I, I, I, 580 00:30:07,675 --> 00:30:10,373 I wrote the scenes, uh, yesterday, 581 00:30:10,417 --> 00:30:11,505 and she's typing it this morning. 582 00:30:13,115 --> 00:30:14,421 Do you have a light that you put, like one of those lights 583 00:30:14,464 --> 00:30:16,031 that people put on their unmarked cars? 584 00:30:16,075 --> 00:30:17,598 -No. -No? 585 00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:19,078 I wanted but, you know what, 586 00:30:19,121 --> 00:30:20,209 we're going to lose the light. 587 00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:22,603 And they go down at the same time? 588 00:30:22,646 --> 00:30:24,344 -[Larry] I don't know, Paul. -Where's Richie? 589 00:30:24,387 --> 00:30:25,780 I have no idea. 590 00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:29,175 Things started to go bad while we were shooting that movie. 591 00:30:29,784 --> 00:30:31,873 You know, Richie was constantly missing. 592 00:30:31,917 --> 00:30:33,527 Nobody knew where he was. 593 00:30:34,745 --> 00:30:37,879 [Larry] Where the problem started to show up, 594 00:30:37,923 --> 00:30:40,403 people were showing up constantly saying, 595 00:30:40,926 --> 00:30:42,710 "Richie told me I could be in the film," 596 00:30:43,232 --> 00:30:47,280 and the production manager had the job of saying to them, 597 00:30:47,323 --> 00:30:49,673 uh, "I'm really sorry." 598 00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:52,676 Richie told everybody they could be in the film. 599 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:58,639 And then after the first week, all the checks bounced. 600 00:30:58,682 --> 00:31:00,946 [eerie music] 601 00:31:02,382 --> 00:31:05,428 I called Richie and said, "Richie, you know, the check bounced. 602 00:31:05,472 --> 00:31:07,343 I'm going to go to the police." He said, "You go to the police, 603 00:31:07,387 --> 00:31:09,519 I'm-- you're going to the morgue." 604 00:31:09,563 --> 00:31:10,912 Fucking you, wasn't it? 605 00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:12,871 You're a fucking dead man, Paulie! 606 00:31:13,567 --> 00:31:15,351 [eerie music] 607 00:31:17,701 --> 00:31:20,661 Practically, everybody who was employed by them 608 00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:23,969 knew, phew, this is not going well. 609 00:31:24,012 --> 00:31:27,015 And my understanding is a couple of them threatened to quit, 610 00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:30,236 and he threatened them with bodily harm [chuckles] 611 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:31,367 if they quit. 612 00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:36,677 This is the file that I started keeping on Castellano 613 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,549 when things started going south [chuckles], 614 00:31:39,593 --> 00:31:41,464 when we started hearing all these rumors 615 00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:44,163 that maybe, that this guy wasn't all he was supposed to be. 616 00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:49,255 [Steve] I remember he needed cash, 617 00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:51,387 and that's when he started to sweat. 618 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:54,347 I don't know what he needed it for 619 00:31:54,390 --> 00:31:56,044 but he'd come out to my clinic, 620 00:31:56,088 --> 00:31:58,394 and I remember we had to throw him out a couple times, 621 00:31:58,438 --> 00:32:00,222 because he just wanted cash. 622 00:32:00,266 --> 00:32:02,050 You know, he just wanted a loan, a loan. 623 00:32:02,964 --> 00:32:04,705 Cash was his drug. 624 00:32:05,227 --> 00:32:09,144 [Zac] A lot of it was like, I got this shipment of sneakers 625 00:32:09,188 --> 00:32:11,059 that I'm going to buy for this amount of money 626 00:32:11,103 --> 00:32:12,713 and sell it for this amount of money, 627 00:32:12,756 --> 00:32:14,106 and if you give me this amount of money, 628 00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:15,368 I'll give you this amount of money. 629 00:32:16,847 --> 00:32:19,938 [John Conway] He said he had a truckload of VCRs, 630 00:32:19,981 --> 00:32:22,331 and that if I would invest a certain amount of money, 631 00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:25,552 he said he would double the, the money in 48 hours. 632 00:32:28,207 --> 00:32:31,210 I know he's a very good talker, because when I first met him, 633 00:32:31,253 --> 00:32:34,126 he got money from me, so... [chuckles] 634 00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:37,651 He told me that he was going to go to jail 635 00:32:37,694 --> 00:32:41,002 if he didn't have money to pay his probation. 636 00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:44,353 And, of course, I found out way later 637 00:32:44,397 --> 00:32:48,140 that that was a total made up story, you know? 638 00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:50,098 [dark, playful music] 639 00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:52,753 I think he was not in control 640 00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:55,930 of a little bit of stardom that he was getting, 641 00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:57,801 and that fed his ego, 642 00:32:57,845 --> 00:33:00,065 and then I think it got out of control. 643 00:33:01,544 --> 00:33:05,200 [Richard] As time passed, people began to question 644 00:33:05,244 --> 00:33:06,985 just what was going on. 645 00:33:07,768 --> 00:33:10,118 And there were so many rumors around Castellano 646 00:33:10,162 --> 00:33:12,468 that you couldn't separate fact from fiction. 647 00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:19,519 At that point, there was, uh, essentially a work stoppage. 648 00:33:20,302 --> 00:33:25,090 Most of the crew did not want to continue working. 649 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,831 [Paul] So the crew's waiting around, 650 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,181 and all of a sudden, you know, 651 00:33:29,224 --> 00:33:31,661 here comes Richard on a golf cart. 652 00:33:31,705 --> 00:33:34,360 Ta-tara-tara, it was almost like Caddyshack. 653 00:33:34,403 --> 00:33:36,231 So he comes out, he gets off the cart 654 00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:38,538 with a, with a, with a brown paper bag. 655 00:33:39,234 --> 00:33:41,671 [Richie] I came there with 300,000 cash. 656 00:33:42,107 --> 00:33:44,848 "How many hours you worked? Here, here's your money." 657 00:33:44,892 --> 00:33:47,329 And I paid everybody down the line. 658 00:33:47,373 --> 00:33:52,943 Like, kind of, you know, mobster kind of payday. [chuckles] 659 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:57,644 But I didn't knew where his money was coming from. 660 00:33:57,687 --> 00:34:00,734 And my, my mistake was not to try to find out. 661 00:34:01,169 --> 00:34:03,780 [dark, playful music] 662 00:34:16,576 --> 00:34:19,100 [Zac] Even after everything just fell apart, 663 00:34:19,579 --> 00:34:22,582 a lot of the people were still hanging on. 664 00:34:23,452 --> 00:34:25,846 And I was definitely, like, in the hanging on camp. 665 00:34:26,325 --> 00:34:29,023 I kept going to the acting classes, 666 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:33,506 and I kept doing all these things with the hope of, 667 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:37,075 the movie's going to come out, and I'm going to have this movie that I was in. 668 00:34:38,511 --> 00:34:42,863 It wasn't until they started the second film festival 669 00:34:42,906 --> 00:34:46,040 where you started seeing the headline stories shifted. 670 00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:51,698 I had two movies in the Narrowsburg Film Festival. 671 00:34:51,741 --> 00:34:54,179 One of them opened the festival, 672 00:34:54,222 --> 00:34:56,094 and the other one closed the festival. 673 00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:00,141 You know, closing night movie, it was Blue Moon. 674 00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:04,319 I do love you. You know I love you. 675 00:35:04,885 --> 00:35:06,147 It's the end of the world. 676 00:35:07,192 --> 00:35:09,237 It must be the end the world. 677 00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:11,500 [Brian] And the other was in the opening night movie, 678 00:35:11,544 --> 00:35:13,023 that's Under Hellgate Bridge. 679 00:35:14,808 --> 00:35:16,636 Brian, I knew you're going to be here, man. 680 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:18,638 Hey! [chuckles] 681 00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:23,686 [Brian] I called my agent, uh, Sarah Fargo at Paradigm, 682 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:28,038 and I said, "I've got two movies in this festival." 683 00:35:28,082 --> 00:35:30,519 And she's like, "Oh, that's great! What is it?" 684 00:35:30,563 --> 00:35:34,393 And I said, "It's called Narrowsburg International Film Festival." 685 00:35:35,002 --> 00:35:38,005 And she said, "Well, when you find out what that is, 686 00:35:38,048 --> 00:35:40,007 let me know." [laughs] 687 00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:46,883 I remember that I had written down 688 00:35:46,927 --> 00:35:48,450 what had happened to me there. 689 00:35:48,494 --> 00:35:53,151 And in here is the Narrowsburg Film Festival 690 00:35:53,194 --> 00:35:55,936 as it happened to me. I was there every day. 691 00:35:55,979 --> 00:35:58,895 And some of this is actually written down in dialogue 692 00:35:58,939 --> 00:36:02,072 because when I hear really good dialogue, I like to write it down. 693 00:36:02,116 --> 00:36:04,336 [dark, whimsical music] 694 00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:08,296 When we got into town, 695 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:11,517 the town was not what I expected at all. 696 00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:14,824 It was kind of like a scary movie set. 697 00:36:14,868 --> 00:36:16,130 There wasn't one banner 698 00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:19,873 over a little tiny theater. 699 00:36:19,916 --> 00:36:23,703 In the theater, it was kind of a little sad auditorium. 700 00:36:23,746 --> 00:36:26,401 Even the screen was askew. 701 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:31,624 I saw Richie, and Richie goes, "Hey, Brian Vincent, 702 00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:34,192 welcome to the Sundance of the East." 703 00:36:34,714 --> 00:36:37,499 Then there was like a blur of motion 704 00:36:37,543 --> 00:36:40,720 of like this guy right behind him came up suddenly, 705 00:36:40,763 --> 00:36:45,246 and he turned around and grabbed this guy 706 00:36:45,986 --> 00:36:49,468 by the lapel of his shirt and dragged him into an alley, 707 00:36:50,077 --> 00:36:51,557 and he start beating him. 708 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,559 And it was like, [puffs] 709 00:36:53,602 --> 00:36:55,474 the guy was like, "No, no!" 710 00:36:55,517 --> 00:36:57,824 And Richie goes, "Motherfucker!" 711 00:36:57,867 --> 00:37:00,870 And Jocelyne ushered me into the office 712 00:37:00,914 --> 00:37:02,307 while all that was happening. 713 00:37:02,872 --> 00:37:05,223 She just acted like it didn't happen. 714 00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:08,182 I think she'd make a great poker player. 715 00:37:09,183 --> 00:37:11,968 Then Richie comes back, and he's shaking out his hands, 716 00:37:12,012 --> 00:37:15,058 and he goes, "We can't have any bums in this town. 717 00:37:15,102 --> 00:37:16,582 We got a festival to run here." 718 00:37:17,887 --> 00:37:19,541 He looked very worried actually. 719 00:37:21,717 --> 00:37:24,590 Pretty quickly after, somebody took me aside 720 00:37:24,633 --> 00:37:27,506 and they said, "I gave some money, 721 00:37:27,549 --> 00:37:33,425 quite a lot of money to this guy Richie Castellano for my SAG card. 722 00:37:33,468 --> 00:37:36,471 Did you ever do that before or did you go to the union?" 723 00:37:38,168 --> 00:37:39,996 That was a very odd question. 724 00:37:41,302 --> 00:37:43,522 It was like what else could possibly go wrong? 725 00:37:43,565 --> 00:37:47,221 Because it probably is going to. I mean, the food was late for the dinner, 726 00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:51,356 and so and so didn't show up and this person's going to walk if they don't get their money, 727 00:37:51,399 --> 00:37:54,228 and, I mean, it just became a total-- 728 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,056 it was total train wreck. 729 00:37:57,144 --> 00:37:58,537 And now let's have some fun. 730 00:38:00,147 --> 00:38:02,541 And I would like to call on the stage someone, uh, someone 731 00:38:02,584 --> 00:38:04,586 that everybody is expecting tonight. 732 00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:06,719 Pat, where are you? 733 00:38:06,762 --> 00:38:07,763 Pat Cooper. 734 00:38:07,807 --> 00:38:09,678 [audience cheers] 735 00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:17,904 Ladies and gentlemen, I have never been so bored in my life. 736 00:38:17,947 --> 00:38:20,515 [audience laughs] 737 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:24,650 I have never, never saw actors give themselves 738 00:38:24,693 --> 00:38:26,869 accolades that nobody gives a goddamn. 739 00:38:28,654 --> 00:38:31,918 I wound up going to this goddamn small town, Narrowsville, 740 00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:34,921 Narrowscot, and I don't know how they call the goddamn place. 741 00:38:34,964 --> 00:38:36,923 I said hello to Richie Castellani. 742 00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:39,926 We talk about a man that said he make movie after movie. 743 00:38:40,492 --> 00:38:42,624 I only seen him in one goddamn movie, 744 00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:44,800 but the way he talked, it's like Gone with the Wind. 745 00:38:44,844 --> 00:38:46,106 [audience laughs] 746 00:38:46,149 --> 00:38:48,064 Little Rosalyn, Jocelyne, Jeesalyn, 747 00:38:48,108 --> 00:38:51,633 or what her goddamn name is, who spoke here for ten minutes, 748 00:38:51,677 --> 00:38:54,244 and I swear to Christ nobody knew what she said. 749 00:38:54,288 --> 00:38:55,724 [audience laughs] 750 00:38:55,768 --> 00:38:57,900 Moving on, ladies and gentlemen, 751 00:38:57,944 --> 00:39:00,512 standing on a stage with actors that nobody knows. 752 00:39:00,555 --> 00:39:02,514 [audience laughs] 753 00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:06,866 Richard Castellano, you dear man, ladies and gentlemen, 754 00:39:06,909 --> 00:39:08,998 who tries to give lessons on acting. 755 00:39:09,042 --> 00:39:10,391 [audience laughs] 756 00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:11,523 What a joke. 757 00:39:11,566 --> 00:39:13,220 [audience laughs] 758 00:39:13,263 --> 00:39:14,613 I made a movie with him. 759 00:39:14,656 --> 00:39:16,266 This guy couldn't find the fucking door. 760 00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:18,138 [audience laughs] 761 00:39:18,181 --> 00:39:21,533 But I love him, and I love this kind of situation 762 00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:23,796 because nobody cares. 763 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:24,971 [audience laughs] 764 00:39:25,014 --> 00:39:26,886 What are you making, a movie? 765 00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:28,714 No! Get away, no more. 766 00:39:28,757 --> 00:39:30,455 That's it, stop. Stop! 767 00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:33,980 Stop, that's it, no more, no more. 768 00:39:34,023 --> 00:39:35,808 -Oh. -[man] Close-up. 769 00:39:35,851 --> 00:39:37,070 -Stop. -Close-up. 770 00:39:37,113 --> 00:39:38,550 -Stop. Stop. -Are you serious? 771 00:39:38,593 --> 00:39:40,639 [uneasy music] 772 00:39:47,123 --> 00:39:49,648 [Brian] So on Sunday was when they showed Blue Moon. 773 00:39:49,691 --> 00:39:52,477 And then they were going to give out all the awards. 774 00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:57,525 And I won the dubious honor of the Rising Star Award 775 00:39:57,569 --> 00:40:00,615 at the Narrowsburg International Film Festival. 776 00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:03,749 And I got caught up in it. 777 00:40:04,750 --> 00:40:08,057 It made me cry, and I realize as I was crying 778 00:40:08,101 --> 00:40:09,842 how ridiculous it was, 779 00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:13,889 because I knew that the festival was a sch-- sham, 780 00:40:13,933 --> 00:40:17,458 and I'm crying over... a sham. 781 00:40:17,502 --> 00:40:19,808 [uneasy music] 782 00:40:20,722 --> 00:40:24,117 The next day, they were showing Four Deadly Reasons. 783 00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:28,034 What I had heard was that the town had produced the movie, 784 00:40:28,077 --> 00:40:30,166 which sounded kind of intriguing to me, actually. 785 00:40:30,210 --> 00:40:31,951 Like, could a town produce a whole movie 786 00:40:31,994 --> 00:40:34,170 and it'd be a hit? Yeah, of course, they could. 787 00:40:34,214 --> 00:40:35,215 It's a great story. [chuckles] 788 00:40:38,087 --> 00:40:40,307 [Zac] We had heard about it through the premier 789 00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:41,961 for weeks and weeks and weeks. 790 00:40:42,004 --> 00:40:44,267 It was going to be like a Hollywood premier. 791 00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:47,270 I expected to see a great movie with local people in it. 792 00:40:47,314 --> 00:40:50,709 Some famous actors mixing with the local people. 793 00:40:50,752 --> 00:40:53,276 Putting the small town of Narrowsburg on the map. 794 00:40:55,148 --> 00:40:56,454 I bought a suit. 795 00:40:56,497 --> 00:40:58,673 I was going to, like, roll up 796 00:40:58,717 --> 00:41:01,763 and make a grand entrance in a town car. 797 00:41:01,807 --> 00:41:03,809 I mean, I had a big plan. 798 00:41:04,287 --> 00:41:05,680 It was the film festival, you know? 799 00:41:05,724 --> 00:41:07,421 I was counting down the days. 800 00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:09,989 I was so excited. Tickets sold out immediately. 801 00:41:10,032 --> 00:41:12,557 Everyone wanted to see what this movie was going to be. 802 00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:17,910 [Brian] When we got there, the town was all dressed up. 803 00:41:17,953 --> 00:41:20,390 And they were so happy. 804 00:41:20,434 --> 00:41:21,957 They all felt like professional actors. 805 00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:25,700 But [stutters] what was amazing to me was that Richie, 806 00:41:25,744 --> 00:41:28,224 he was still on a throne, you know, 807 00:41:28,268 --> 00:41:31,837 and people were just, they loved him. 808 00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:34,579 I set up my camera in the back. I was standing in the back. 809 00:41:34,622 --> 00:41:36,929 I was going to capture this moment. 810 00:41:36,972 --> 00:41:39,540 And, uh, Joe Dinki gets up there. 811 00:41:39,584 --> 00:41:41,324 [audience applauds] 812 00:41:41,368 --> 00:41:44,414 All right, um, I, um... 813 00:41:45,285 --> 00:41:48,549 wrote the screenplay for Four Deadly Reasons from an original story 814 00:41:48,593 --> 00:41:51,683 by, uh, Richard's son and another person. 815 00:41:51,726 --> 00:41:54,207 And, uh, we took it and we made it into a-- 816 00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:57,689 I think a very viable, very sellable, very fun mob film. 817 00:41:58,385 --> 00:42:01,388 So let's all applaud Narrowsburg for their participation. 818 00:42:01,431 --> 00:42:03,999 -Thank you. -[audience cheers] 819 00:42:10,266 --> 00:42:12,573 Now, uh, the hard part. 820 00:42:14,096 --> 00:42:18,187 Um, halfway, we started the, um, editing, 821 00:42:18,231 --> 00:42:21,016 post-production on this film in July. 822 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:24,280 And, uh, lo and behold, we hit a few problems. 823 00:42:24,324 --> 00:42:28,110 And, uh, sadly, we don't have the whole film here today. 824 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:33,681 And I really do apologize. But what you will see is 15 minutes, 825 00:42:33,725 --> 00:42:37,946 sorry, of the film that shows exactly what we were doing 826 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:41,733 and how much fun it is and how great your area looks 827 00:42:41,776 --> 00:42:44,605 and all the people that were in this film. 828 00:42:44,649 --> 00:42:47,608 Uh, I don't want to belay to the point and keep apologizing 829 00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:49,392 because you guys are great and I think it's a fun film 830 00:42:49,436 --> 00:42:51,699 and I know it's going to go places. 831 00:42:51,743 --> 00:42:53,962 And I'm having one of those really bad summers, so... 832 00:42:54,876 --> 00:42:58,793 and I apologize. If I was more energetic, I could've made this happen. 833 00:42:59,664 --> 00:43:02,536 But, um, I'm going to turn it over to, uh, to see it, right? 834 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:03,972 And then if you have any questions, 835 00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:05,713 I'd be glad to answer those afterwards 836 00:43:05,757 --> 00:43:08,281 about where this is going and what happened to it 837 00:43:08,324 --> 00:43:09,587 and everything that's going on. 838 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,373 -Thank you. -[audience applauds] 839 00:43:21,294 --> 00:43:23,601 [upbeat music] 840 00:43:25,385 --> 00:43:27,430 ♪ Oh, amazing 841 00:43:29,432 --> 00:43:32,000 ♪ I can't get ahead no, without trying ♪ 842 00:43:32,784 --> 00:43:36,614 ♪ Everything is out-of-pocket somebody do something ♪ 843 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,399 ♪ The perfect situation is abstract ♪ 844 00:43:39,442 --> 00:43:41,488 -[splashes] -♪ Listen 845 00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:44,534 [man] Oh, yeah. 846 00:43:45,274 --> 00:43:46,188 Go on. 847 00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:49,496 Oh, yeah, we got him, we got the money. 848 00:43:50,018 --> 00:43:53,500 [Tom] It was chopped up pieces of movie that I couldn't make no sense of. 849 00:43:54,066 --> 00:43:55,589 I don't know if it was to be deceitful 850 00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:57,678 or just to put something in front of you, 851 00:43:57,722 --> 00:43:59,332 but there was nothing there. 852 00:44:00,986 --> 00:44:03,815 [Zac] I had invited a bunch of people, my family was there. 853 00:44:05,468 --> 00:44:08,733 I'm just watching these scenes go by, 854 00:44:08,776 --> 00:44:11,605 waiting to catch a glimpse of myself. 855 00:44:13,476 --> 00:44:15,261 And it was like nothing. 856 00:44:15,304 --> 00:44:16,784 No shots of me. 857 00:44:16,828 --> 00:44:19,091 No shots of Narrowsburg at all. 858 00:44:19,134 --> 00:44:22,398 Just these terrible scenes with these gangsters. 859 00:44:22,442 --> 00:44:25,097 Fuck, you're in a fucking country club. 860 00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:26,620 Show some class. 861 00:44:26,664 --> 00:44:29,318 [Jocelyne] I was feeling so ashamed, 862 00:44:29,362 --> 00:44:31,103 and I think I left the theater. 863 00:44:31,146 --> 00:44:35,368 Everyone was so furious about it. 864 00:44:35,411 --> 00:44:36,804 Nobody move! 865 00:44:36,848 --> 00:44:38,327 Hands in the air! 866 00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:43,289 [high tone] 867 00:44:47,075 --> 00:44:50,209 [uneasy music] 868 00:44:50,252 --> 00:44:51,645 [Brian] And then the lights came up 869 00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:53,603 and then they were like, "That's it. 870 00:44:53,647 --> 00:44:56,737 Okay, you know, you can get out of here or whatever." 871 00:44:58,478 --> 00:45:00,872 [Tom] There was that, uh, horrific silence 872 00:45:01,829 --> 00:45:03,570 that nobody says nothing. 873 00:45:03,613 --> 00:45:05,485 Some people in the crowd gasped. 874 00:45:05,528 --> 00:45:07,705 And I said to myself, "They're the investors." 875 00:45:08,967 --> 00:45:11,447 It hit me, I said, "If it ain't a scam, 876 00:45:11,491 --> 00:45:13,798 it's something that went really, really wrong." 877 00:45:15,451 --> 00:45:18,367 [Joe] The kid, Zac, he's almost in tears. 878 00:45:19,107 --> 00:45:21,762 I had no idea the amount of money 879 00:45:21,806 --> 00:45:25,287 or the amount of emotion that his family put into this movie. 880 00:45:25,331 --> 00:45:26,419 I felt horrible. 881 00:45:26,941 --> 00:45:28,726 And his father, he's got like this, 882 00:45:28,769 --> 00:45:30,510 yeah, I can tell with his face, his face is all tense, 883 00:45:30,553 --> 00:45:32,381 and he's drawing these steel eyes at me, 884 00:45:32,425 --> 00:45:34,775 and he just wanted, he want-- 885 00:45:34,819 --> 00:45:36,646 he wanted to take his anger out on me. 886 00:45:37,778 --> 00:45:40,563 I mean, taking out Richard and his wife and Jocelyne 887 00:45:40,607 --> 00:45:42,478 and Richard, go, complain to them. 888 00:45:42,522 --> 00:45:44,872 I was trying to save that movie. 889 00:45:44,916 --> 00:45:46,482 And I was trying to get it done 890 00:45:46,526 --> 00:45:47,788 so those people would have something 891 00:45:47,832 --> 00:45:48,963 and I would have something. 892 00:45:50,225 --> 00:45:53,838 What was overarching was the fact 893 00:45:53,881 --> 00:45:57,015 that I was not going to do this. 894 00:45:57,755 --> 00:46:01,976 I was not, I wasn't going to be an actor, that was it. 895 00:46:02,890 --> 00:46:06,676 I could not deal with that... sort of thing 896 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:07,895 happening to me again. 897 00:46:10,071 --> 00:46:12,508 [Brian] We all went out on the street 898 00:46:12,552 --> 00:46:15,076 and there were people just, like, 899 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,036 running like, "Look, where-- what the hell? Where is Richie? 900 00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:21,561 Where is Jo, where are they?" And that's when the town... 901 00:46:22,605 --> 00:46:24,912 went from "We love you" to "We hate you." 902 00:46:26,131 --> 00:46:28,742 And that, you know, there was real violence in the air. 903 00:46:31,092 --> 00:46:34,617 Search every ravine, every crevice, 904 00:46:34,661 --> 00:46:36,706 but the fiend must be found! 905 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:37,882 [crowd clamors] 906 00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:40,841 [dogs bark] 907 00:46:42,016 --> 00:46:43,931 [uneasy music] 908 00:46:56,726 --> 00:46:58,990 [Cecilia] There were people knocking on the office door after the film. 909 00:46:59,729 --> 00:47:01,340 [knocking on door] 910 00:47:01,383 --> 00:47:02,602 Never anybody there. 911 00:47:03,037 --> 00:47:04,778 It's like they, in the middle of the night-- 912 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:05,953 They disappeared. 913 00:47:05,997 --> 00:47:07,041 So then I knew, 914 00:47:07,085 --> 00:47:09,087 I says, "The jig is up." 915 00:47:09,130 --> 00:47:11,872 Now everybody knows something's wrong with this whole picture. 916 00:47:11,916 --> 00:47:14,614 [man] The man's a by god spellbinder. 917 00:47:14,657 --> 00:47:15,615 I want my money back! 918 00:47:15,658 --> 00:47:17,182 I want his hide! 919 00:47:17,225 --> 00:47:19,184 Find him and bring him over to the high school, 920 00:47:19,227 --> 00:47:21,186 roped and hogtied if you have to. 921 00:47:23,231 --> 00:47:25,277 [Brian] When we woke up in the morning, 922 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,149 we drove to the main office, 923 00:47:28,193 --> 00:47:31,239 and there was nobody in the office, 924 00:47:31,283 --> 00:47:33,328 the computers, they were gone. 925 00:47:33,372 --> 00:47:36,070 There was nothing left there. 926 00:47:36,114 --> 00:47:38,116 There was someone there that said, 927 00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:41,336 the police were looking for Jocelyne 928 00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:43,904 or maybe they were just saying Richie. 929 00:47:43,948 --> 00:47:46,864 But they-- they had found a passport with the picture 930 00:47:46,907 --> 00:47:49,649 that had been cut out. [chuckles] 931 00:47:49,692 --> 00:47:51,259 I don't know what to make of that. 932 00:47:51,303 --> 00:47:54,045 They found a passport with a picture cut out. 933 00:47:55,133 --> 00:47:56,830 [Cecilia] I think there was one in here... 934 00:47:57,962 --> 00:48:00,007 when the story first broke, right? 935 00:48:00,051 --> 00:48:01,356 In The Times Herald-Record. 936 00:48:01,966 --> 00:48:04,707 This is the one from, uh, Times Herald-Record. 937 00:48:06,057 --> 00:48:08,233 I think this was the front page, headline. 938 00:48:11,671 --> 00:48:13,847 Then it started snowballing. 939 00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,980 [Cecilia] It grows quickly in a small town. 940 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,939 [Tom] Everybody said they were con artists. 941 00:48:20,245 --> 00:48:22,421 Every couple of days you see somebody else 942 00:48:22,464 --> 00:48:23,596 came out of the woodwork. 943 00:48:25,206 --> 00:48:26,816 [man] Hundreds of thousands of dollars 944 00:48:26,860 --> 00:48:28,601 that he had gotten from people, 945 00:48:28,644 --> 00:48:29,994 where did all this money go? 946 00:48:31,082 --> 00:48:33,780 [uneasy, somber music] 947 00:48:37,001 --> 00:48:38,959 [Lurch] He playing the whole damn thing, top to bottom. 948 00:48:39,003 --> 00:48:41,788 I mean, come on. They did a couple little scenes on Main Street, 949 00:48:41,831 --> 00:48:43,311 a cop car go up and down. 950 00:48:43,355 --> 00:48:45,748 I think he gave everybody a big fucking farce. 951 00:48:46,227 --> 00:48:48,664 And he came up here deliberately to fuck everybody. 952 00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:53,931 Things started to come out about him, you know. 953 00:48:53,974 --> 00:48:55,671 It wasn't a bank that he robbed. 954 00:48:55,715 --> 00:48:57,456 It was like a shoe store. 955 00:48:57,499 --> 00:48:59,719 It was, like, the story shifted, 956 00:48:59,762 --> 00:49:01,895 and it was no longer glamorous. 957 00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:05,116 It was, like, he was, he had been lying. 958 00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:06,508 My name is Detective Wyatt. 959 00:49:06,552 --> 00:49:08,293 [Larry] His real name is Castaldo, 960 00:49:08,336 --> 00:49:11,252 okay? The key there with Richie was 961 00:49:11,296 --> 00:49:13,994 that he used Castellano as the name. 962 00:49:14,038 --> 00:49:17,867 Paul Castellano was head of the Gambinos, you know. 963 00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:19,652 But he had been dead for years, 964 00:49:19,695 --> 00:49:21,480 so what's he going to do, you know? 965 00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:23,482 Say, "You can't use my name?" 966 00:49:24,613 --> 00:49:26,746 [slow relaxed music] 967 00:49:28,182 --> 00:49:30,358 [Brian] After the festival, 968 00:49:30,402 --> 00:49:32,708 I saw there was a newspaper article, 969 00:49:32,752 --> 00:49:35,233 and on the front page was Richie. 970 00:49:35,885 --> 00:49:39,977 And it says, "Fallen Star's Film Fiasco." 971 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,373 Finally, Richie showed up in the town and he goes, 972 00:49:45,417 --> 00:49:49,029 "Hey, did you see I made the papers' front page? 973 00:49:49,073 --> 00:49:54,556 They call me a star, a fallen star, but a star, right?" 974 00:49:56,254 --> 00:49:58,691 [Zac] He was on Main Street, wasted. 975 00:49:58,734 --> 00:50:03,000 He's not in his suit anymore, he's in, like, sweatpants and like a wifebeater, 976 00:50:03,043 --> 00:50:05,524 and, like, he's just chain smoking and screaming. 977 00:50:05,567 --> 00:50:08,353 "I'm a fallen star, star, star." 978 00:50:09,963 --> 00:50:12,879 He was, like, at the end of his rope, you know. 979 00:50:13,662 --> 00:50:15,577 And he's been in a fight. 980 00:50:15,621 --> 00:50:18,145 [tense music] 981 00:50:25,935 --> 00:50:27,459 Get the fuck, get the fuck off, 982 00:50:27,502 --> 00:50:29,983 get the fucking [mumbles]. 983 00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,029 [tense music] 984 00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:38,687 [car crashing] 985 00:50:40,211 --> 00:50:42,822 [dramatic opera music] 986 00:50:50,395 --> 00:50:52,658 [Zac] I think he knew it was over at that point. 987 00:50:53,572 --> 00:50:55,008 I don't think there was much to do 988 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:58,229 besides get drunk and just wait 989 00:50:58,272 --> 00:51:00,579 for all the bad stuff that was about to come. 990 00:51:00,622 --> 00:51:02,885 I mean, I think he knew it was going to crash down. 991 00:51:04,409 --> 00:51:06,063 [Bobby] Officer, what are you doing, officer? 992 00:51:06,715 --> 00:51:08,021 Wait a second [mumbles]. 993 00:51:13,592 --> 00:51:15,376 -[Bobby] Go inside! -[police officer] Shut up, Bobby. 994 00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:16,986 [Bobby] No, don't tell me to shut up! 995 00:51:18,727 --> 00:51:21,078 [siren wails] 996 00:51:21,121 --> 00:51:22,905 [police radio chatter] 997 00:51:24,168 --> 00:51:26,170 [dramatic music] 998 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,738 [Tracy] I'll be in sight to the Richard Castellano story 999 00:51:29,782 --> 00:51:32,219 -in Sullivan County. -It does appear to be on its way. 1000 00:51:32,263 --> 00:51:35,135 The actor featured in the movie Analyze This, 1001 00:51:35,179 --> 00:51:38,051 Richard Castellano, who was brought to the county jail 1002 00:51:38,095 --> 00:51:42,099 last night, face Judge Frank LaBuda in court today. 1003 00:51:42,142 --> 00:51:44,362 Castellano was charged with grand larceny 1004 00:51:44,405 --> 00:51:47,016 after promising people Screen Actors Guild cards. 1005 00:51:47,452 --> 00:51:50,542 Sentencing and restitution will be discussed tomorrow. 1006 00:51:51,673 --> 00:51:54,023 There were many charges pending against Richard. 1007 00:51:54,067 --> 00:51:56,374 But the charges that ultimately appeared 1008 00:51:56,417 --> 00:51:59,333 in an indictment were several felony charges 1009 00:51:59,377 --> 00:52:02,597 for taking money from would-be actors 1010 00:52:02,641 --> 00:52:05,165 and promising them a union card, 1011 00:52:05,209 --> 00:52:08,168 and a fraud charge where he obtained 1012 00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:10,997 substantial money from a local farmer. 1013 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,174 I could say when he appeared in court, he was an actor. 1014 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,004 [Ralph] When he tried to convince the court of something, 1015 00:52:18,047 --> 00:52:21,050 he acted like he was starring in a movie, 1016 00:52:21,094 --> 00:52:22,878 and he's always looking around to make sure 1017 00:52:22,922 --> 00:52:24,010 that he had the audience. 1018 00:52:24,706 --> 00:52:26,882 I believe at times, he 1019 00:52:26,926 --> 00:52:29,929 could not tell the difference between reality... 1020 00:52:30,451 --> 00:52:33,280 uh, and, and a movie that he was creating in his own mind. 1021 00:52:34,455 --> 00:52:36,283 On his judgment day, so to speak, 1022 00:52:36,327 --> 00:52:39,721 case was called and there was no Richard Castellano. 1023 00:52:39,765 --> 00:52:43,551 The attorney stated that, uh, he had had a psychiatric breakdown. 1024 00:52:43,595 --> 00:52:46,206 He made a good faith effort to repay the money, 1025 00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:48,513 but he hasn't paid it all yet, um, 1026 00:52:48,556 --> 00:52:51,124 mostly because of his medical problems. He's been in the hospital. 1027 00:52:51,168 --> 00:52:54,345 Victims should be made whole because of the scam he pulled. 1028 00:52:54,388 --> 00:52:57,043 [Ralph] There was one time where he tried to feint a heart attack. 1029 00:52:57,086 --> 00:52:59,393 He stands up and he starts to say something, 1030 00:52:59,437 --> 00:53:03,354 then he goes into one of his, "Oh, something's wrong, 1031 00:53:03,397 --> 00:53:06,705 something's wrong, I, oh, I feel, oh, I feel weak. 1032 00:53:06,748 --> 00:53:10,491 I can't see. Oh, oh, something's, oh, something's awful wrong." 1033 00:53:10,535 --> 00:53:12,711 And he gropes around, found the chair. 1034 00:53:12,754 --> 00:53:14,365 I looked at the deputy and he said, 1035 00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:16,932 "He does this all the time in the jail." 1036 00:53:16,976 --> 00:53:18,499 [Dawn] Aside of a plea deal, 1037 00:53:18,543 --> 00:53:20,545 Castellano promised to pay them back, 1038 00:53:20,588 --> 00:53:23,156 and would be sentenced to a year behind bars. 1039 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,463 This morning, Castellano apologized. 1040 00:53:25,506 --> 00:53:27,291 You've been very respectable judge. 1041 00:53:27,334 --> 00:53:29,510 I appreciate that, it's almost good to [mumbles] 1042 00:53:29,554 --> 00:53:32,252 so, I, I have no, no complaints, 1043 00:53:32,296 --> 00:53:34,733 and I'm sorry for what happened. 1044 00:53:35,516 --> 00:53:39,085 [Dawn] Judge LaBuda says Jeffrey Schwartz, Castellano's attorney, 1045 00:53:39,128 --> 00:53:41,609 doesn't want to represent his client anymore. 1046 00:53:41,653 --> 00:53:43,350 LaBuda says that is still long with the... 1047 00:53:43,394 --> 00:53:44,917 Bang, they locked me up. 1048 00:53:46,614 --> 00:53:49,704 And I wind up in mother effing jail. 1049 00:53:52,054 --> 00:53:54,318 Like, they were saying we had no film in the camera. 1050 00:53:55,101 --> 00:53:58,191 There were people saying we had no film in the camera! 1051 00:53:58,713 --> 00:54:00,802 I get mad when I think of it, 1052 00:54:00,846 --> 00:54:02,326 because they were trying to hurt me so bad. 1053 00:54:03,849 --> 00:54:06,721 The DA, he thought he had a big fish 1054 00:54:06,765 --> 00:54:09,507 in a small pond, you know? 1055 00:54:09,550 --> 00:54:12,553 Richie Castellano, the ex-mobster-turned-actor. 1056 00:54:13,032 --> 00:54:14,990 They thought they had the big one. 1057 00:54:16,209 --> 00:54:18,298 Well, open your eyes. 1058 00:54:18,342 --> 00:54:19,691 You got nobody! 1059 00:54:21,170 --> 00:54:23,956 That you got nobody but a regular innocent actor. 1060 00:54:24,957 --> 00:54:27,612 I'll see you guys, try to snap up my cell before I leave, all right? 1061 00:54:27,655 --> 00:54:29,788 -Of course. -Be good and remember, write me. 1062 00:54:30,832 --> 00:54:32,094 Take care, Bobby. 1063 00:54:33,052 --> 00:54:35,184 To me, it's nothing to hold people money, 1064 00:54:35,228 --> 00:54:37,839 so that's why maybe I don't get excited like kids do. 1065 00:54:38,884 --> 00:54:41,974 You think it's a good story, I think it's a fucking boring story. 1066 00:54:43,236 --> 00:54:45,020 Maybe I'm interesting. 1067 00:54:45,456 --> 00:54:46,892 The story sucks. 1068 00:54:48,502 --> 00:54:49,634 That's all I can say. 1069 00:54:50,591 --> 00:54:52,724 [producer] Can you tell me about, um, uh, 1070 00:54:52,767 --> 00:54:54,769 the premiere of the-- 1071 00:54:54,813 --> 00:54:58,077 what was supposed to be the premier of Four Deadly Reasons... 1072 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,340 -Yeah. -...and, but the editor had only 1073 00:55:00,384 --> 00:55:02,560 been able to edit maybe ten minutes of footage? 1074 00:55:02,603 --> 00:55:04,823 We had to-- we had to, uh, what do you call that? 1075 00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:06,868 A premiere, yeah. 1076 00:55:07,391 --> 00:55:09,567 Where you got dressed with tuxedos and everything. 1077 00:55:10,394 --> 00:55:13,353 [producer] But then I have, like, only ten minutes of footage was, 1078 00:55:13,397 --> 00:55:16,835 was ready? Do you remember that? 1079 00:55:16,878 --> 00:55:19,272 No, I don't remember that. I remember seeing the whole movie. 1080 00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:20,665 What are you talking about? 1081 00:55:22,275 --> 00:55:24,277 Are you sure you know what you're talking about? 1082 00:55:24,799 --> 00:55:27,106 When I went there, I watched the whole movie. 1083 00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:29,935 I don't know which fence you went to. 1084 00:55:32,851 --> 00:55:33,808 Never heard of that. 1085 00:55:33,852 --> 00:55:35,332 Ten minutes of the movie? 1086 00:55:36,463 --> 00:55:37,638 Are you sure? 1087 00:55:39,988 --> 00:55:41,990 I really can't answer that, I don't know what that-- 1088 00:55:42,034 --> 00:55:43,905 what happened with that ten minutes. 1089 00:55:44,776 --> 00:55:46,125 I don't remember that. 1090 00:55:50,608 --> 00:55:52,436 [projector whirs] 1091 00:55:57,702 --> 00:56:02,315 [somber, whimsical music] 1092 00:56:15,110 --> 00:56:17,199 [John Conway] To read about some of these people 1093 00:56:17,243 --> 00:56:19,550 who had given their life savings to this man, 1094 00:56:19,593 --> 00:56:21,900 and just ended up with absolutely nothing 1095 00:56:21,943 --> 00:56:24,424 to show for, um, I can only imagine 1096 00:56:24,468 --> 00:56:26,861 what it must have done to them. 1097 00:56:37,350 --> 00:56:39,352 I lent him a lot of money. 1098 00:56:39,396 --> 00:56:42,311 I think I lent him close to 15-20,000. 1099 00:56:44,792 --> 00:56:48,579 It probably was not more than 50,000. 1100 00:56:51,059 --> 00:56:53,279 [Steve] I remember going to the bank, 1101 00:56:53,322 --> 00:56:57,326 I used a couple of Visa cards to get the cash. 1102 00:56:57,370 --> 00:57:00,547 I walked out the door and I gave it to him, 1103 00:57:00,591 --> 00:57:04,551 and I just remember the smile he had on his, his, uh, you know, 1104 00:57:04,595 --> 00:57:06,727 "Oh, you're amazing, Doc," you know. 1105 00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:09,600 To give someone money like that, 1106 00:57:09,643 --> 00:57:12,124 you have to hope and then dream or believe. 1107 00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:14,866 He said, "You're going to get a part in the movie," 1108 00:57:14,909 --> 00:57:16,258 and that was the hook. 1109 00:57:17,346 --> 00:57:21,133 He made me feel like I was going to go some place. 1110 00:57:30,229 --> 00:57:33,145 [Dr. Paul] It was like a very fast thing, like, they needed cash. 1111 00:57:33,798 --> 00:57:35,582 I said, "I, I'm not going to give you that amount." 1112 00:57:35,626 --> 00:57:37,976 He said, "You have to, we really need it." 1113 00:57:38,019 --> 00:57:40,021 "Okay, I'll give you a check." 1114 00:57:40,065 --> 00:57:41,719 But when I went to cash the check, 1115 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,591 there was no money in the account. 1116 00:57:45,549 --> 00:57:46,985 I felt at that point 1117 00:57:47,551 --> 00:57:50,336 that I was had, and that these people were swindlers. 1118 00:57:51,206 --> 00:57:54,383 [uneasy music] 1119 00:57:58,387 --> 00:58:00,738 [pensive string music] 1120 00:58:02,435 --> 00:58:05,090 -[man] We're making a documentary over here. -[woman] There we go. 1121 00:58:05,133 --> 00:58:07,658 -This is the man. -[man] All right. 1122 00:58:07,701 --> 00:58:09,529 I respect him, I love him like a father, 1123 00:58:09,573 --> 00:58:11,575 This guys never wannabe-- 1124 00:58:12,576 --> 00:58:14,621 [Tom] Now, I don't know everybody that gave him money. 1125 00:58:14,665 --> 00:58:16,667 The only guy I know for sure was John Borg. 1126 00:58:18,103 --> 00:58:20,409 And, uh, he thought he was going to be in the movie. 1127 00:58:21,062 --> 00:58:23,500 [Lurch] That was, that was over a $100,000. 1128 00:58:23,543 --> 00:58:25,763 He was having a heart attack, "Oh, my God, 1129 00:58:25,806 --> 00:58:28,896 I gave him almost my entire fucking life savings." 1130 00:58:28,940 --> 00:58:31,856 And he died, he died a few months right after that. That was it. 1131 00:58:33,771 --> 00:58:35,903 Gloria is a retired music teacher. 1132 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,821 Whether he knew that there were dementia issues going on, 1133 00:58:40,865 --> 00:58:44,521 I don't know, but she gave him over a $120,000. 1134 00:58:46,871 --> 00:58:50,918 This note says, "Keep it quiet because I'll go to jail. 1135 00:58:50,962 --> 00:58:53,530 We don't need their investigating you." 1136 00:58:54,618 --> 00:58:56,402 I think as she got deeper and deeper, 1137 00:58:57,142 --> 00:58:58,883 it just became, like, her little secret 1138 00:58:58,926 --> 00:59:00,928 because she didn't, she didn't share with her husband, 1139 00:59:00,972 --> 00:59:02,277 she didn't share with anybody. 1140 00:59:05,193 --> 00:59:07,065 [birds chirp] 1141 00:59:12,984 --> 00:59:15,595 [John Marchese] I'm a writer and journalist, 1142 00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:18,946 and I thought this has to be written about. 1143 00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:20,731 Uh, I went in to see Richie, 1144 00:59:20,774 --> 00:59:23,734 and he was feeling, 1145 00:59:23,777 --> 00:59:26,954 obviously, that he had been caught and trapped at that point. 1146 00:59:27,433 --> 00:59:29,609 And I remember he showed me, I think, 1147 00:59:29,653 --> 00:59:31,568 this notebook he had been keeping, 1148 00:59:31,611 --> 00:59:32,960 or something like kind of legal pad 1149 00:59:33,004 --> 00:59:34,919 where he had been writing stuff. 1150 00:59:34,962 --> 00:59:37,443 And on that pad, he had written, 1151 00:59:38,139 --> 00:59:41,665 "I'm Richie Castellano, a fallen star." 1152 00:59:44,493 --> 00:59:48,193 So I have to admit that there was something charming about him. 1153 00:59:48,236 --> 00:59:51,065 And I don't think that his charm 1154 00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:53,415 was completely based on fraud. 1155 00:59:56,331 --> 00:59:58,159 [man] So what are you going to do if you get out? 1156 00:59:58,203 --> 01:00:00,640 [Richie] Make love to my wife, Jocelyne, the whole day. 1157 01:00:00,684 --> 01:00:03,469 -[man] All right.[chuckles] -[Richie] But-- and what's funny is 1158 01:00:03,512 --> 01:00:06,690 as long as I've been here, I miss her more and more, and I love her more and more. 1159 01:00:06,733 --> 01:00:10,171 It took me three months, uh, two and a half months to get this girl in bed. 1160 01:00:10,215 --> 01:00:13,044 -[man] Wow! -[Richie] And that's why I love her, Sam and Joe, 1161 01:00:13,087 --> 01:00:16,221 a lot of guys, they were thinking, "I don't worry about that with my wife." 1162 01:00:16,264 --> 01:00:18,832 When I said that, "You're not going to run away on me, are you?" 1163 01:00:18,876 --> 01:00:23,750 "Are you crazy? Because again, I'm your wife, why would I leave you now?" 1164 01:00:23,794 --> 01:00:25,752 I don't think she's ever run away from me. 1165 01:00:28,712 --> 01:00:31,323 [John Marchese] Jocelyne was being hounded, too, 1166 01:00:31,366 --> 01:00:33,455 but I was trying to find her. 1167 01:00:34,152 --> 01:00:37,590 All I knew was that she had gone into hiding. 1168 01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:39,940 She was just the mystery woman all along. 1169 01:00:40,419 --> 01:00:42,726 Everybody could talk about Richie. 1170 01:00:43,683 --> 01:00:45,642 No one really could talk about Jocelyne. 1171 01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:49,689 I, I don't think his wife was involved with the schemes 1172 01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:53,693 and she was never, uh, charged at any level 1173 01:00:53,737 --> 01:00:55,869 with being involved in the schemes to defraud. 1174 01:00:56,783 --> 01:00:59,307 I think a lot of people thought she was just along for the ride. 1175 01:00:59,830 --> 01:01:01,266 You know, what people told me? 1176 01:01:01,309 --> 01:01:03,485 That she was the brains of the operation. 1177 01:01:03,529 --> 01:01:04,661 He was along for the ride. 1178 01:01:06,053 --> 01:01:07,925 I don't know if that's true or not, 1179 01:01:07,968 --> 01:01:09,230 but that's what I heard. 1180 01:01:11,929 --> 01:01:15,367 I do recall having a conversation with, with Jocelyne, 1181 01:01:15,410 --> 01:01:20,502 where she, uh, told me that she was a descendant of the Habsburg dynasty, 1182 01:01:20,546 --> 01:01:23,070 and, uh, how she escaped in the middle of the night 1183 01:01:23,114 --> 01:01:24,898 with, with some of their fortune. 1184 01:01:26,291 --> 01:01:27,684 Some of the things that she said 1185 01:01:27,727 --> 01:01:28,989 didn't historically add up. 1186 01:01:31,252 --> 01:01:33,341 [Dr. Paul] I do remember something like Jocelyne 1187 01:01:33,385 --> 01:01:37,215 having some royalty in her, like royalty in France 1188 01:01:37,258 --> 01:01:38,738 or in one of those countries. 1189 01:01:41,001 --> 01:01:43,090 [Rich] She told me that her family owned an island, 1190 01:01:43,134 --> 01:01:45,092 her family was like billionaires. 1191 01:01:45,136 --> 01:01:46,877 She said she owned Mustang Films 1192 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,661 and it was a big film company. 1193 01:01:50,402 --> 01:01:51,969 [Zac] I'm organizing some of her files. 1194 01:01:52,012 --> 01:01:53,710 I remember pamphlets of movies 1195 01:01:53,753 --> 01:01:55,146 that she had supposedly produced 1196 01:01:55,189 --> 01:01:56,887 without her name on them. 1197 01:01:56,930 --> 01:02:00,281 She was a lot harder to pin down than he was. 1198 01:02:02,762 --> 01:02:05,809 [Brian] I think Richie had dreams of making a movie. 1199 01:02:06,287 --> 01:02:09,421 I think Richie wanted to be the center of attention 1200 01:02:09,464 --> 01:02:12,467 at a film festival, and Jocelyne probably being 1201 01:02:12,511 --> 01:02:14,252 the much more intelligent, 1202 01:02:14,295 --> 01:02:17,429 knew the reality of it would just be so much easier 1203 01:02:17,472 --> 01:02:18,952 to just take the money and run. 1204 01:02:18,996 --> 01:02:21,999 [somber music] 1205 01:02:31,051 --> 01:02:33,837 I know I do not leave men, uh, indifferent 1206 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,577 one way or another, 1207 01:02:35,621 --> 01:02:37,928 and I think this has been my curse a little, you know. 1208 01:02:39,059 --> 01:02:41,540 I was not involved, really I was, 1209 01:02:41,583 --> 01:02:43,629 you know, you can be guilty by association 1210 01:02:43,672 --> 01:02:45,370 but you need to prove that. 1211 01:02:45,413 --> 01:02:48,329 I was not accused of anything in Narrowsburg, you know. 1212 01:02:48,373 --> 01:02:52,769 And believe me, the DA was looking, he was looking. 1213 01:02:56,729 --> 01:02:58,949 In Narrowsburg I did not understand 1214 01:02:58,992 --> 01:03:00,733 where did all this money go? 1215 01:03:01,603 --> 01:03:04,519 And, you know, one day did my own detective work, 1216 01:03:04,563 --> 01:03:07,696 you know, and I found out Richard had problem with gambling. 1217 01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:12,049 I did confront, I did confront Richard 1218 01:03:12,092 --> 01:03:15,530 regarding horse's affairs and horse's money issues, 1219 01:03:16,357 --> 01:03:18,707 but Richard is a very smooth talker, 1220 01:03:18,751 --> 01:03:21,014 and he would always say that was crazy, 1221 01:03:21,058 --> 01:03:22,755 you know, just kind of answers 1222 01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,410 that men sometimes can say to woman, you know. 1223 01:03:26,193 --> 01:03:28,456 I had a hunch, I thought we could turn this dollar 1224 01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:30,937 into some real money, pay off Sapiro 1225 01:03:30,981 --> 01:03:33,113 and have some left for ourselves and the kid. 1226 01:03:35,768 --> 01:03:37,770 Nobody's coming looking for us, okay? 1227 01:03:38,684 --> 01:03:40,991 [Jocelyne] You are in a corner and where do you go from there? 1228 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,689 There is a lion in front of you and, you know, 1229 01:03:43,732 --> 01:03:45,343 and you can't move, you know. 1230 01:03:46,170 --> 01:03:49,042 That's how I was feeling at that time, 1231 01:03:49,086 --> 01:03:50,870 most of the time I was with Richard. 1232 01:03:51,871 --> 01:03:54,787 [uneasy music] 1233 01:03:57,834 --> 01:04:01,054 I mean, after leaving that drama in Narrowsburg 1234 01:04:01,098 --> 01:04:03,535 and everything else that goes with it, 1235 01:04:03,578 --> 01:04:08,409 the DA, the police, um, the shame. 1236 01:04:11,325 --> 01:04:14,241 I think I was at my lowest. [laughs] 1237 01:04:14,285 --> 01:04:18,028 And, um, I think I cried. 1238 01:04:20,117 --> 01:04:21,814 I cried for months. 1239 01:04:22,728 --> 01:04:25,862 I didn't want to exist anymore either, you know. 1240 01:04:27,951 --> 01:04:30,692 [somber music] 1241 01:04:52,758 --> 01:04:55,239 [rails clatter] 1242 01:05:00,984 --> 01:05:03,464 [siren wails] 1243 01:05:06,076 --> 01:05:08,643 [Isil] We went to the Narrowsburg Film Festival 1244 01:05:08,687 --> 01:05:10,602 with our film Under Hellgate Bridge, 1245 01:05:10,645 --> 01:05:13,344 and that's how we met Jocelyne. 1246 01:05:13,387 --> 01:05:17,087 After that festival, uh, some years went by, 1247 01:05:17,130 --> 01:05:18,958 I don't remember exactly how many years, 1248 01:05:19,002 --> 01:05:21,961 but we did hear from her via email 1249 01:05:22,005 --> 01:05:24,398 when she started the Queens Film Festival. 1250 01:05:25,443 --> 01:05:26,923 I thought, "Hey, you know, 1251 01:05:26,966 --> 01:05:28,968 maybe this is a new fresh beginning for her. 1252 01:05:30,448 --> 01:05:33,233 And I want to thank all of our filmmakers, 1253 01:05:33,277 --> 01:05:37,150 our sponsors and member of the advisory board 1254 01:05:37,194 --> 01:05:40,110 in making this film festival the best 1255 01:05:40,153 --> 01:05:43,156 I hope that we have broken new ground 1256 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,637 and set the tone for another five years 1257 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,292 of the best of independent film. 1258 01:05:48,945 --> 01:05:51,730 [Larry] I didn't know about the Queens Festival, 1259 01:05:52,383 --> 01:05:55,125 until I saw a friend from the movie. 1260 01:05:55,168 --> 01:05:58,215 He said, um, "You want to hear something funny?" 1261 01:05:58,258 --> 01:06:02,697 He said, "Jocelyne is running the Queens Film Festival now." 1262 01:06:02,741 --> 01:06:06,919 Festival has not only grown in size but in depth. 1263 01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:10,531 We were just like, "Wow, you know, she pulled herself together. 1264 01:06:10,575 --> 01:06:13,317 She survived that whole Narrowsburg fiasco. 1265 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,624 Maybe this is, you know, a new beginning for her." 1266 01:06:16,668 --> 01:06:19,671 But what was so odd was when I saw her 1267 01:06:19,714 --> 01:06:23,153 for the first time, her name was no longer Jocelyne, 1268 01:06:23,196 --> 01:06:24,502 her name was now Marie. 1269 01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:27,244 [Larry] He said, "Yeah, she's using the same picture 1270 01:06:27,287 --> 01:06:28,767 that she used in Narrowsburg, 1271 01:06:30,682 --> 01:06:33,032 but she's using a different name under the same picture." [chuckles] 1272 01:06:33,076 --> 01:06:35,774 [Isil] We were standing in the lobby of the festival 1273 01:06:35,817 --> 01:06:38,516 and that's when somebody came up to us and said, 1274 01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:41,780 you know, they got conned by her and that she owed them money. 1275 01:06:44,565 --> 01:06:46,350 I always felt like there's something 1276 01:06:46,393 --> 01:06:48,308 not a hundred percent with Jocelyne. 1277 01:06:49,092 --> 01:06:50,658 I kind of started Googling her, 1278 01:06:50,702 --> 01:06:53,618 and, and then I found out something in California 1279 01:06:53,661 --> 01:06:55,620 about a check being bounced 1280 01:06:55,663 --> 01:06:57,143 for like a large amount of money. 1281 01:06:57,187 --> 01:06:58,884 And I started putting two and two together 1282 01:06:58,927 --> 01:07:02,714 and was like, "Wow, Jocelyne wasn't this big producer. 1283 01:07:02,757 --> 01:07:06,370 That Jocelyne has, you know, a criminal past." 1284 01:07:07,501 --> 01:07:09,242 It was surprising, I couldn't believe it. 1285 01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:15,292 Isn't that also the festival where that "Shame on you, guys, shame, shame." 1286 01:07:15,335 --> 01:07:16,641 -Chases her down the street. -Yes. 1287 01:07:18,164 --> 01:07:19,905 [news reporter] Marie Castaldo is the founder 1288 01:07:19,948 --> 01:07:22,299 and director of the Queens International Film Festival 1289 01:07:22,342 --> 01:07:24,518 but some say she's a con artist. 1290 01:07:24,562 --> 01:07:28,479 [man] They're ripping off, uh, four vendors of some $14,000. 1291 01:07:28,522 --> 01:07:30,524 You had the Narrowsburg Film Festival. 1292 01:07:30,568 --> 01:07:33,136 -You left a trail of bad debts there? -No, that's not me. 1293 01:07:33,179 --> 01:07:34,789 [news reporter] And before Narrowsburg 1294 01:07:34,833 --> 01:07:37,314 she was in California calling herself 1295 01:07:37,357 --> 01:07:40,404 Marie Rousseau, and Marie Jocelyne Plante. 1296 01:07:40,447 --> 01:07:44,538 She left owing $40,000 in unpaid judgments 1297 01:07:44,582 --> 01:07:46,323 at the Hollywood Film Festival. 1298 01:07:46,366 --> 01:07:47,846 Actually, can I tell you something? 1299 01:07:47,889 --> 01:07:49,021 -Yes. -You do not know much, 1300 01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:50,631 uh, and I'm really sorry to see 1301 01:07:50,675 --> 01:07:51,589 that you're a reporter. 1302 01:07:52,155 --> 01:07:55,201 She has zeroed in on the fact that 1303 01:07:55,245 --> 01:07:59,640 filmmakers want to show their films and they're even willing to pay. 1304 01:08:00,163 --> 01:08:02,339 -We bought, uh, the C package. I figured that-- -How much-- 1305 01:08:02,382 --> 01:08:04,515 -How much is it? -It was like $200 for the C package. 1306 01:08:04,558 --> 01:08:05,951 -200 dollars? -Yeah. 1307 01:08:05,994 --> 01:08:08,301 Okay, to see your own film? 1308 01:08:08,345 --> 01:08:10,129 -To see our own film! -[both laughs] 1309 01:08:10,173 --> 01:08:11,609 If you get good enough people 1310 01:08:11,652 --> 01:08:13,350 that are willing to pay to show their films, 1311 01:08:13,393 --> 01:08:16,440 you can have a festival and if you have a festival, 1312 01:08:16,483 --> 01:08:18,137 then you can get sponsors. 1313 01:08:18,181 --> 01:08:19,617 And if you've got sponsors, 1314 01:08:19,660 --> 01:08:21,793 then you can charge ticket admission, 1315 01:08:21,836 --> 01:08:23,882 and the money just keeps coming in. 1316 01:08:23,925 --> 01:08:25,623 This is her specialty. 1317 01:08:27,712 --> 01:08:29,888 [Michael] I think she had a genuine wish 1318 01:08:29,931 --> 01:08:32,020 of wanting to be important in the film world. 1319 01:08:32,978 --> 01:08:35,807 I don't think she did film festivals to con people. 1320 01:08:35,850 --> 01:08:38,157 I think she wound up conning people 1321 01:08:38,201 --> 01:08:40,333 because, you know, we're in the indie film world. 1322 01:08:41,291 --> 01:08:43,423 There's always dreams out of more and bigger 1323 01:08:43,467 --> 01:08:45,382 than there is reality of making it happen. 1324 01:08:46,034 --> 01:08:48,080 [dark whimsical music] 1325 01:08:55,740 --> 01:08:59,396 I can honestly say, you fooled me. 1326 01:09:00,005 --> 01:09:02,529 Everybody invested, I gave her the money. 1327 01:09:03,922 --> 01:09:07,534 It's gone, I can't say how she did it. 1328 01:09:08,318 --> 01:09:10,885 [somber music] 1329 01:09:11,538 --> 01:09:14,498 [producer] Do you feel like you actively deceived anyone? 1330 01:09:14,541 --> 01:09:17,153 That I actively deceived anyone? No. 1331 01:09:18,154 --> 01:09:22,767 So I understand that, you know, 1332 01:09:22,810 --> 01:09:25,813 there is all this money, or there is a pattern 1333 01:09:26,466 --> 01:09:31,558 but do not try to make me feel like I am the evil person. 1334 01:09:31,602 --> 01:09:34,213 Mistake were made from all party, 1335 01:09:34,257 --> 01:09:38,174 so everyone needs to take their responsibility. 1336 01:09:38,652 --> 01:09:40,915 These people call themself my friends 1337 01:09:40,959 --> 01:09:43,527 when the wind was shifting the wrong way, 1338 01:09:43,570 --> 01:09:47,879 they were gone but then when the wind was shifting back the good way, 1339 01:09:47,922 --> 01:09:49,576 then they were back. 1340 01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:51,622 I am sorry, I prefer myself... 1341 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,583 even so all of these look bad, I prefer myself, 1342 01:09:56,627 --> 01:09:59,195 I do not shift winds, okay? 1343 01:09:59,238 --> 01:10:03,024 And stop saying that I am that evil person 1344 01:10:03,068 --> 01:10:05,418 because I can say a lot more 1345 01:10:05,462 --> 01:10:07,290 about each and every one of them. 1346 01:10:07,333 --> 01:10:08,987 I am a nice person. 1347 01:10:09,596 --> 01:10:11,337 I'm just going to stop at that. 1348 01:10:13,470 --> 01:10:15,994 [light music] 1349 01:10:22,957 --> 01:10:26,918 We want to think that if a disaster happen, you know, 1350 01:10:26,961 --> 01:10:29,268 we will help on each other 1351 01:10:29,312 --> 01:10:33,098 but I do not believe, I think everyone just run for themself, you know. 1352 01:10:34,969 --> 01:10:38,973 Coming from Africa, doesn't surprise me at all, 1353 01:10:39,017 --> 01:10:42,629 the strong eats the weak, uh, you know, lion, uh, 1354 01:10:42,673 --> 01:10:46,242 you know, zebra that is wounded and you will go for it. 1355 01:10:47,808 --> 01:10:49,375 That's how I see people, you know. 1356 01:10:50,071 --> 01:10:51,899 When you're strong, people go with you, 1357 01:10:51,943 --> 01:10:53,945 and when you're weak, they go against you. 1358 01:10:53,988 --> 01:10:56,817 [soft, dark music] 1359 01:11:04,825 --> 01:11:06,479 [birds chirp] 1360 01:11:23,366 --> 01:11:28,066 The first time I saw Four Deadly Reasons was long after we had shot it. 1361 01:11:28,675 --> 01:11:30,808 It was screening at the Tribeca Screening Room. 1362 01:11:31,678 --> 01:11:33,811 It was above the Tribeca Bar and Grill. 1363 01:11:35,465 --> 01:11:37,684 [dreamy chorus music] 1364 01:11:47,085 --> 01:11:49,435 [uneasy music] 1365 01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:59,750 The life, you know what I'm talking about. 1366 01:12:01,186 --> 01:12:04,842 Sooner or later, it either puts you behind a wall 1367 01:12:05,843 --> 01:12:07,192 or under the ground. 1368 01:12:08,715 --> 01:12:11,239 [Paul] So I called up the Tribeca Screening Room and said, 1369 01:12:11,283 --> 01:12:13,067 "Hey, I'd like to book such and such date and, 1370 01:12:13,111 --> 01:12:14,939 you know, 7:00 p.m. or whatever it was." 1371 01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:17,898 It was the opening night of the Tribeca Film Festival. 1372 01:12:19,726 --> 01:12:22,120 I never told anybody that it was 1373 01:12:22,163 --> 01:12:24,296 part of the Tribeca Film Festival, I never lied, 1374 01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:27,647 I just said we're having a premiere at the Tribeca Film Center. 1375 01:12:27,691 --> 01:12:29,301 It's opening night of the Tribeca Film Festival. 1376 01:12:31,825 --> 01:12:36,830 I paid, I think, $200 for an actual red carpet. 1377 01:12:39,485 --> 01:12:42,140 And we played it for a packed audience, 300 people. 1378 01:12:42,923 --> 01:12:45,578 [uneasy, whimsical music] 1379 01:12:46,579 --> 01:12:49,234 I just wanted to be a filmmaker and get a movie made 1380 01:12:49,277 --> 01:12:51,802 but it got so much more complex. 1381 01:12:52,368 --> 01:12:54,239 Richie, he was in jail. 1382 01:12:55,458 --> 01:12:56,894 So I made a deal with the Castellanos, 1383 01:12:56,937 --> 01:12:58,678 where Joe Dinki and I did some rewrites 1384 01:12:58,722 --> 01:13:00,288 without him in order to make it work. 1385 01:13:01,855 --> 01:13:05,076 Plans, they never seem to work out. 1386 01:13:07,034 --> 01:13:10,298 Paul and I both put our own money in it, trying to save that movie. 1387 01:13:10,342 --> 01:13:12,388 But I said, "No, I want to get this finished, we're going to do it, 1388 01:13:12,431 --> 01:13:13,737 we're going to do the right thing by everybody." 1389 01:13:15,042 --> 01:13:17,262 And it has five scenes that I'm very proud of. 1390 01:13:18,176 --> 01:13:20,483 Bank robbery, there's strippers, 1391 01:13:20,526 --> 01:13:22,572 there's mob actors eating ice cream. 1392 01:13:22,615 --> 01:13:23,964 Shit! 1393 01:13:24,443 --> 01:13:26,663 [Paul] And I had this whole thing about palindromes. 1394 01:13:26,706 --> 01:13:29,492 [Bobby] You're named Otto? That's a palindrome. 1395 01:13:29,535 --> 01:13:30,928 You call me a fucking what? 1396 01:13:31,537 --> 01:13:33,191 [Bobby] You figure it out for yourself. 1397 01:13:33,234 --> 01:13:35,541 A pa-- a palindrome? 1398 01:13:36,890 --> 01:13:40,590 You don't walk away after calling me a fucking palindrome! 1399 01:13:41,721 --> 01:13:42,679 Hey! 1400 01:13:44,202 --> 01:13:46,117 [Zac] Oh, I was, um, the only person from Narrowsburg 1401 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,074 at the screening. 1402 01:13:48,946 --> 01:13:51,818 Richie and Jocelyne weren't there. Richie might-- I don't think-- 1403 01:13:51,862 --> 01:13:54,952 I think Richie was out of jail at that point, but he was definitely not showing his face, 1404 01:13:54,995 --> 01:13:57,476 or-- where the-- you know, in, in this crowd. 1405 01:13:58,521 --> 01:14:00,610 And then the last thing I heard about Richie, 1406 01:14:00,653 --> 01:14:03,917 he called me and said he was thinking about, 1407 01:14:03,961 --> 01:14:06,833 like, starting another acting school 1408 01:14:06,877 --> 01:14:10,315 and, and whether or not I would be interested 1409 01:14:10,358 --> 01:14:13,536 in, like, helping him out and doing it with him. 1410 01:14:15,363 --> 01:14:19,193 I mean, had I been like, "Yeah, man, that would be awesome, let's do it!" 1411 01:14:19,237 --> 01:14:22,458 I mean, I think that maybe there would be another sort of chapter in this story. 1412 01:14:22,936 --> 01:14:24,329 [chuckles] 1413 01:14:25,548 --> 01:14:28,159 [pensive, whimsical music] 1414 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:32,163 I don't think it was malicious 1415 01:14:32,206 --> 01:14:34,905 when he told me that I was going to be a movie star. 1416 01:14:34,948 --> 01:14:36,994 I mean, I think it was to try to make me feel good. 1417 01:14:37,908 --> 01:14:41,041 And I think he, he liked conning people. 1418 01:14:41,085 --> 01:14:44,044 I mean, he-- to trick somebody is, is addicting 1419 01:14:44,088 --> 01:14:46,743 and he was certainly like a trickster 1420 01:14:46,786 --> 01:14:49,485 and a con artist, that is absolutely true. 1421 01:14:49,528 --> 01:14:53,358 But that's different than the excitement 1422 01:14:53,401 --> 01:14:55,403 that he got from telling people 1423 01:14:55,447 --> 01:14:57,275 that he was going to put them in a movie. 1424 01:14:59,495 --> 01:15:02,193 Richie and Jocelyne awakened this thing 1425 01:15:02,236 --> 01:15:03,847 and this love for making movies. 1426 01:15:04,412 --> 01:15:06,066 -Is this where we are? -Right here, okay? 1427 01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:07,590 -We're right here, we're good? -Okay. 1428 01:15:07,633 --> 01:15:09,417 That I believe that these things are possible 1429 01:15:09,461 --> 01:15:11,463 is something that Richie taught me. 1430 01:15:16,773 --> 01:15:19,515 [slow, pensive music] 1431 01:15:33,006 --> 01:15:35,095 [engine rumbles] 1432 01:15:52,678 --> 01:15:55,246 [Joe] The blur between fantasy and reality, 1433 01:15:55,899 --> 01:15:57,335 we all fall prey to it. 1434 01:15:58,641 --> 01:16:01,992 There's a little bit of Richard Castellano in all of us. 1435 01:16:03,167 --> 01:16:04,603 There's a little bit of flimflam, 1436 01:16:04,647 --> 01:16:06,431 there's a little bit of wanting 1437 01:16:06,474 --> 01:16:09,956 so much and not knowing how to get it... 1438 01:16:11,349 --> 01:16:15,135 and there's a little bit of, of all this chicanery 1439 01:16:15,179 --> 01:16:18,225 that we all pull from time to time. 1440 01:16:22,534 --> 01:16:25,232 [Brian] Had it been ready, Four Deadly Reasons, 1441 01:16:25,842 --> 01:16:29,715 would he have been arrested and put in prison? 1442 01:16:30,934 --> 01:16:31,935 I don't think so. 1443 01:16:33,763 --> 01:16:36,635 Sometimes, people dream something 1444 01:16:36,679 --> 01:16:39,246 and because they're dream, they just keep saying it, 1445 01:16:39,290 --> 01:16:41,379 and it suddenly starts to become true. 1446 01:16:42,946 --> 01:16:44,774 So when is it a lie, 1447 01:16:45,731 --> 01:16:51,737 and when does the lie become a real movie, a real thing? 1448 01:16:51,781 --> 01:16:54,218 [slow, pensive music] 1449 01:16:58,309 --> 01:17:01,181 [Zac] I often describe it as, like, The Music Man 1450 01:17:01,225 --> 01:17:02,879 without the magical happy ending. 1451 01:17:05,185 --> 01:17:06,970 Suddenly, there were things to do 1452 01:17:07,753 --> 01:17:09,799 and things to be proud of. 1453 01:17:10,321 --> 01:17:11,975 Surely some of you can be grateful 1454 01:17:12,018 --> 01:17:13,890 for what this man has brought to us. 1455 01:17:15,805 --> 01:17:17,197 [Zac] The truth didn't matter. 1456 01:17:18,416 --> 01:17:21,549 It was just the possibility. 1457 01:17:23,029 --> 01:17:25,815 Possibility that these things could happen. 1458 01:17:27,904 --> 01:17:30,646 [slow, pensive music] 1459 01:17:33,866 --> 01:17:35,912 [John Marchese] I mean, I really have this theory that 1460 01:17:35,955 --> 01:17:39,567 the entire film business is built on a scam. 1461 01:17:40,743 --> 01:17:42,658 There's still people who are going to say, 1462 01:17:42,701 --> 01:17:45,530 "We lost money, we were embarrassed, 1463 01:17:45,573 --> 01:17:47,706 yet we'll be able to tell this story 1464 01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:49,099 for the rest of our lives. 1465 01:17:49,577 --> 01:17:53,712 We were ripped off in such a bizarre and unusual way 1466 01:17:53,756 --> 01:17:55,366 that it was worth it." 1467 01:17:56,497 --> 01:17:58,674 How often do you get to tell a story like that? 1468 01:18:02,373 --> 01:18:04,854 [Richie] Narrowsburg is a sleepy, beautiful town, 1469 01:18:04,897 --> 01:18:06,377 I love, I still love it. 1470 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,293 And there's still people want me to come back, 1471 01:18:09,336 --> 01:18:12,209 they said, "We wish Castellano, Richie was back up here. 1472 01:18:13,166 --> 01:18:15,125 He made the place alive." 1473 01:18:17,214 --> 01:18:19,564 Like people say, "Rich, how many people in this world 1474 01:18:19,607 --> 01:18:22,349 can say they've done what you've done?" 1475 01:18:23,263 --> 01:18:27,833 You know, if I should die walking out this door, 1476 01:18:27,877 --> 01:18:29,443 I'd die with a smile on my face, 1477 01:18:29,487 --> 01:18:30,880 I'm not afraid of death. 1478 01:18:32,098 --> 01:18:35,058 You make movies and they live on, and on, and on, 1479 01:18:35,101 --> 01:18:38,061 so when you do pass on, you go hang out with God, 1480 01:18:38,931 --> 01:18:40,454 you're still alive down here. 1481 01:18:43,501 --> 01:18:45,895 [slow, pensive music] 1482 01:18:53,380 --> 01:18:56,122 [upbeat orchestral music] 1483 01:19:30,548 --> 01:19:33,943 [upbeat, playful music] 1484 01:19:34,595 --> 01:19:36,380 The story is so fascinating 1485 01:19:36,423 --> 01:19:39,818 that there were like a jillion different ways 1486 01:19:39,862 --> 01:19:42,255 that it could be told. And I... 1487 01:20:45,928 --> 01:20:48,191 Feeling fucking lucky now, Sapiro? 1488 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,541 Dad, stop, please don't do this. 1489 01:20:50,584 --> 01:20:53,022 I got four fucking reasons for you. 1490 01:20:54,327 --> 01:20:56,329 Four fucking deadly reasons. 1491 01:20:56,373 --> 01:20:59,028 [dark, playful music]