1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:12,142 --> 00:00:15,858 (people chattering) 4 00:00:15,858 --> 00:00:18,858 (jazz music) 5 00:00:41,822 --> 00:00:44,905 (fire engine honking) 6 00:00:52,350 --> 00:00:56,290 - Other Music was the quintessential place 7 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:59,763 in New York City for people that appreciated music. 8 00:01:00,890 --> 00:01:02,490 It just was a place where you were able 9 00:01:02,490 --> 00:01:05,340 to kind of search out things that you had never heard of. 10 00:01:18,420 --> 00:01:21,030 - If I was in New York, I would always make sure 11 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:22,780 that I would be at Other Music 12 00:01:22,780 --> 00:01:24,633 within the first day of being there. 13 00:01:25,890 --> 00:01:30,150 Per square meter, it probably had more interest value 14 00:01:30,150 --> 00:01:33,803 than any other shop that I had ever been in in the world. 15 00:01:38,730 --> 00:01:40,290 - To be stocked on their shelves 16 00:01:40,290 --> 00:01:42,340 meant that a band was in good company. 17 00:01:42,340 --> 00:01:45,090 - What they did was invaluable for people like me. 18 00:01:45,090 --> 00:01:47,070 - Write a great song in a basement, 19 00:01:47,070 --> 00:01:48,593 go play it at that club, next thing you know, 20 00:01:48,593 --> 00:01:51,010 it's gonna be in that store. 21 00:01:51,010 --> 00:01:53,010 - People have awesome experiences at record stores 22 00:01:53,010 --> 00:01:54,230 all over the country, 23 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:57,860 but Other Music just cracked my head open. 24 00:01:57,860 --> 00:02:00,200 It just was like (imitates explosion booming). 25 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,220 There's a whole world that you have no idea about 26 00:02:03,220 --> 00:02:05,283 and get ready to learn. 27 00:02:17,645 --> 00:02:20,478 (people cheering) 28 00:02:37,660 --> 00:02:39,060 - Do you remember this band? 29 00:02:40,837 --> 00:02:43,587 - Yeah, it had something to do... 30 00:02:45,740 --> 00:02:48,970 - Hi Rob, hi Puloma, what's going on? 31 00:02:48,970 --> 00:02:49,920 - Hey Josh. 32 00:02:55,932 --> 00:02:59,015 (funky quirky music) 33 00:03:37,690 --> 00:03:39,561 - Other Music, this is Josh. 34 00:03:39,561 --> 00:03:40,457 - Azonto? - Azonto. 35 00:03:40,457 --> 00:03:44,850 - It's kind of like fast house tempo but dancehall-y, 36 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:47,340 but with African sort of rhythms to it. 37 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:57,680 - Before the internet and before iPhones or any of that, 38 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,510 people trusted other people. 39 00:03:59,510 --> 00:04:00,343 - These were two tracks 40 00:04:00,343 --> 00:04:03,880 that were on a deluxe CD set of greatest hits. 41 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,220 - Yeah, he did vocals on the original track, 42 00:04:06,220 --> 00:04:07,993 the Sam Kerridge one is really good. 43 00:04:07,993 --> 00:04:10,490 - They're kind of like a bit Darkness vein. 44 00:04:11,413 --> 00:04:13,706 I like the Darkness, don't judge me. 45 00:04:13,706 --> 00:04:16,420 - I have a soft spot for the Darkness, I can appreciate. 46 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:18,570 - Talk about me when I leave. 47 00:04:18,570 --> 00:04:20,710 - The most exciting in the world for me 48 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:22,030 is to be around people 49 00:04:22,030 --> 00:04:26,810 who have devoted a massive amount of time to something. 50 00:04:26,810 --> 00:04:28,850 Someone listening to you, 51 00:04:28,850 --> 00:04:30,840 and hearing the stuff that you like musically 52 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:32,483 and then saying, "Do you know this?" 53 00:04:32,483 --> 00:04:35,400 - This is more experimental. 54 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,330 It's a cool record, but it's not his new pop record. 55 00:04:39,330 --> 00:04:41,100 - The place is reverberating. 56 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:43,690 It's like vibrating because you just... what you can see, 57 00:04:43,690 --> 00:04:47,030 and what you know is there beyond what you can see, 58 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:48,030 and it's like, whaaat? 59 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,154 (speaking in foreign language) 60 00:04:52,154 --> 00:04:54,053 - I want to buy a lot. 61 00:04:54,053 --> 00:04:54,970 - Okay. - Yes? 62 00:04:54,970 --> 00:04:56,353 - Getting your records 63 00:04:56,353 --> 00:04:59,920 into good record shops is very important. 64 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,802 They're the hubs for music communities. 65 00:05:02,802 --> 00:05:06,719 (speaking in foreign language) 66 00:05:14,835 --> 00:05:17,040 - And also people who just like listening to records all day 67 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,213 deserve to have a job where they can do that. 68 00:05:20,590 --> 00:05:22,970 People who work in record shops are always weirdos. 69 00:05:22,970 --> 00:05:24,080 Weirdos need jobs. 70 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,470 - If anybody sees me and I'm not listening to records, 71 00:05:26,470 --> 00:05:29,790 what I want to be doing is listening to a record. 72 00:05:29,790 --> 00:05:30,793 Even if it's a record 73 00:05:30,793 --> 00:05:33,710 that I don't necessarily like or care about. 74 00:05:33,710 --> 00:05:36,493 I don't like to take records off even if I hate them. 75 00:05:39,219 --> 00:05:40,653 - I still love the smell of records. 76 00:05:43,444 --> 00:05:45,100 - We can't hire anyone over a certain height 77 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:47,883 because the ceilings just won't allow it. 78 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:50,957 - This has not changed pretty much 79 00:05:50,957 --> 00:05:52,956 in the 15 years I've worked here. 80 00:05:52,956 --> 00:05:56,039 (upbeat soul music) 81 00:05:58,250 --> 00:06:01,540 (electronic music) 82 00:06:01,540 --> 00:06:06,540 - Coming to New York and just going to shows sometimes, 83 00:06:06,970 --> 00:06:08,130 it wasn't enough. 84 00:06:08,130 --> 00:06:10,640 I wanted to be bombarded constantly, 85 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,850 I wanted to have my ideas challenged. 86 00:06:12,850 --> 00:06:15,100 And I wanted to be fucked with, you know? 87 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:16,830 - It was a place that I loved to go 88 00:06:16,830 --> 00:06:20,410 whenever I wanted to find something new 89 00:06:20,410 --> 00:06:21,840 or something I didn't know about. 90 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,507 I knew that there would be someone there 91 00:06:23,507 --> 00:06:26,240 who's pretty invested, who had listened to it. 92 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,791 - We tried to have more of this kind of a holistic view 93 00:06:28,791 --> 00:06:32,500 of all these different things happening in music, 94 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:33,820 in new music. 95 00:06:33,820 --> 00:06:34,880 Even if it was reissues. 96 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,410 It was definitely like trying 97 00:06:36,410 --> 00:06:38,610 to be on top of what's happening now. 98 00:06:38,610 --> 00:06:40,455 - To go find out what was new 99 00:06:40,455 --> 00:06:42,690 and bands in the area and all that stuff, 100 00:06:42,690 --> 00:06:45,870 Other Music was where you had to go. 101 00:06:45,870 --> 00:06:48,453 When there was a whole batch of new stuff on that shelf 102 00:06:48,453 --> 00:06:51,080 with a bunch of new cards that someone had written out, 103 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,260 that was a good sign I was gonna be listening 104 00:06:53,260 --> 00:06:54,830 to something pretty exciting. 105 00:06:54,830 --> 00:06:57,320 - I would never trade the handwritten signs. 106 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,027 It's done from a place of, 107 00:06:59,027 --> 00:07:00,577 "I had to write about this right now 108 00:07:00,577 --> 00:07:03,460 "when I was listening to it because I loved it so much." 109 00:07:03,460 --> 00:07:06,630 It's the first thing people see if the record's new, 110 00:07:06,630 --> 00:07:09,130 so I want to come in with my personal, 111 00:07:09,130 --> 00:07:12,840 passionate endorsement, as soon as possible. 112 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,490 - Maybe this is the best "From NYC, Made in NYC" 113 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:18,750 hip hop album you'll hear all year. 114 00:07:18,750 --> 00:07:20,590 Solid, thick, and punchy production 115 00:07:20,590 --> 00:07:22,819 with a firm and meaty lyrical style. 116 00:07:22,819 --> 00:07:25,120 - Sammus is Enongo Lumumba-Kasongo. 117 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,920 Her latest EP "Infusion" 118 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,360 explores the screwed-up world of academia, 119 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,870 finding peace through video games, and more. 120 00:07:31,870 --> 00:07:35,110 Afrofuturism vibes that carry us to the year 3000. 121 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:37,880 - The epitome of DIY, the couple who ran the label 122 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,960 out of their Bristol home upheld more of a punk ethos 123 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,900 than many who claimed that distinction. 124 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:44,700 - Recorded live at Matik-Matik, 125 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:46,990 Bogota Colombia's experimental music hub. 126 00:07:46,990 --> 00:07:50,883 Folk, free jazz, tropicalia, spoken word, it's all in there. 127 00:07:50,883 --> 00:07:53,040 - A perfect menage a trois of voice, 128 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,310 sonics, and texture. 129 00:07:54,310 --> 00:07:55,790 Soaring and emotional. 130 00:07:55,790 --> 00:07:56,970 Political and pure. 131 00:07:56,970 --> 00:08:00,270 - If you only ever buy one record ever again, 132 00:08:00,270 --> 00:08:01,973 this would be a fine choice. 133 00:08:03,030 --> 00:08:04,770 - I like curators, you know. 134 00:08:04,770 --> 00:08:07,160 I like people that are gonna comb through it all 135 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,900 and really are passionate enough 136 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:13,510 to write 100 words on a little card 137 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:15,940 and make sure it stays stuck to the shelf. 138 00:08:15,940 --> 00:08:19,490 - A lot of the stuff that we feel really special about 139 00:08:19,490 --> 00:08:20,413 or personal about are things 140 00:08:20,413 --> 00:08:22,513 that we have such limited quantities on 141 00:08:22,513 --> 00:08:25,560 that you can't present it to the whole 30,000 people 142 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,680 who are reading our emails 143 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,040 because we might only have 10 copies. 144 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,740 And that handwritten sign is going to turn more people 145 00:08:33,740 --> 00:08:35,293 on just coming off the street. 146 00:08:40,660 --> 00:08:43,653 - Hello. - Hello, there's a box here. 147 00:08:44,730 --> 00:08:48,090 Other Music, it's kind of like a religious experience 148 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:53,400 a little bit coming here, picking up new sounds. 149 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,700 After a while they get to know your taste 150 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:59,960 and sometimes I come in here and just say, "Pick them." 151 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:02,087 - This is the original cover of it, 152 00:09:02,087 --> 00:09:04,760 but I remember there was a reissue on Rhino Records. 153 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,283 I mean not Rhino, Alligator, years ago. 154 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:15,260 My first job in a record store was, 155 00:09:15,260 --> 00:09:20,260 I was in high school and it was career week. 156 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,970 I loved the record store I used to shop at when I was a kid 157 00:09:22,970 --> 00:09:25,650 and I'd been working a retail job at my Aunt 158 00:09:25,650 --> 00:09:29,048 and Uncle's gift shop since I was 14. 159 00:09:29,048 --> 00:09:30,548 I love retail and I love music, I'm like, 160 00:09:30,548 --> 00:09:31,850 that's the perfect thing. 161 00:09:31,850 --> 00:09:33,647 And so I went up to the record store 162 00:09:33,647 --> 00:09:36,697 and the guy I used to shop at and I said, 163 00:09:36,697 --> 00:09:39,027 "It's career week next week. 164 00:09:39,027 --> 00:09:40,657 "I could work for free, for a week. 165 00:09:40,657 --> 00:09:41,490 "You need some help? 166 00:09:41,490 --> 00:09:42,890 "You know, I'd love to do it." 167 00:09:42,890 --> 00:09:45,477 He was like, "Sure, come on in." 168 00:09:46,470 --> 00:09:48,803 And I've been doing it ever since. 169 00:09:48,803 --> 00:09:51,431 ♪ Judy and the Dream of Horses ♪ 170 00:09:51,431 --> 00:09:54,852 ♪ Dream of Horses ♪ 171 00:09:54,852 --> 00:09:56,977 ♪ You dream of horses ♪ 172 00:09:56,977 --> 00:09:58,293 - Wasn't that beautiful? 173 00:09:58,293 --> 00:10:00,160 That was Belle and Sebastian. 174 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,030 We have some guests with us today. 175 00:10:02,030 --> 00:10:06,110 From Other Music, Chris Vanderloo and Mr. Josh Madell. 176 00:10:06,110 --> 00:10:08,670 The reason we chose that particular album 177 00:10:08,670 --> 00:10:10,710 is that is apparently the biggest selling record 178 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:11,830 they've ever had in the store. 179 00:10:11,830 --> 00:10:13,330 Is that correct, gentlemen? 180 00:10:13,330 --> 00:10:14,163 - It is, yeah. 181 00:10:14,163 --> 00:10:15,850 That's from our biggest selling album. 182 00:10:15,850 --> 00:10:17,811 We've sold a few thousand copies of that one over the years. 183 00:10:17,811 --> 00:10:20,210 - And it still continues to flow. 184 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:22,820 Now for people that are not in New York City, 185 00:10:22,820 --> 00:10:25,010 'cause we have to tell everybody, 186 00:10:25,010 --> 00:10:28,347 Other Music is an institution that I buy records from 187 00:10:28,347 --> 00:10:32,580 for the last 20 years and I'm really sad and pissed off 188 00:10:32,580 --> 00:10:33,692 that you guys are leaving. 189 00:10:33,692 --> 00:10:36,192 (droning music) 190 00:10:39,620 --> 00:10:44,083 - Our plan is to close Other Music on June 25th. 191 00:10:45,745 --> 00:10:49,820 I guess we have about six weeks left. 192 00:10:52,613 --> 00:10:55,840 - No, that's the truth, closing on the 25th. 193 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,160 - When we first announced it, 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,607 a regular customer told me 195 00:10:58,607 --> 00:11:01,237 "It was the Tweet heard around the world." 196 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:10,063 - It's sad. 197 00:11:11,260 --> 00:11:13,043 It's like a home for a lot of people. 198 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,300 - So they're definitely gonna close? 199 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:17,583 Oh, that's really a drag. 200 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,373 Wow, what a drag, fuck. 201 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:23,622 - The way things are and the way people consume music 202 00:11:23,622 --> 00:11:26,350 is on a certain trajectory 203 00:11:26,350 --> 00:11:28,530 and it does not favor Other Music. 204 00:11:28,530 --> 00:11:29,363 - When's your last day? 205 00:11:29,363 --> 00:11:31,069 It sucks the store is closing. 206 00:11:31,069 --> 00:11:32,742 - The 25th. - The 25th? 207 00:11:32,742 --> 00:11:33,575 - Yeah. 208 00:11:33,575 --> 00:11:36,000 - I've been coming here since I was 11. 209 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,765 - Wow. 210 00:11:37,765 --> 00:11:39,866 - Just wanted you to know, I made a special trip from L.A. 211 00:11:39,866 --> 00:11:41,197 to come by. - Oh really? 212 00:11:41,197 --> 00:11:42,500 - Just 'cause I'm gonna miss you guys. 213 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:43,333 - Wow. 214 00:11:43,333 --> 00:11:46,011 - You guys should have a therapist here. 215 00:11:46,011 --> 00:11:47,110 - Yeah. 216 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:50,380 - Every person wants to talk to me for 10 minutes. 217 00:11:50,380 --> 00:11:52,820 They wanna know what I'm gonna do now. 218 00:11:52,820 --> 00:11:54,280 - To me this store is synonymous 219 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,110 with everything that's cool about New York. 220 00:11:57,110 --> 00:12:00,837 Bands were probably formed because of the music 221 00:12:00,837 --> 00:12:02,660 people got exposed to at this store. 222 00:12:02,660 --> 00:12:05,743 I think you can't quantify it. 223 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,409 - Let's go back to the early years. 224 00:12:08,409 --> 00:12:10,023 Where did you guys meet? 225 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,300 - We all met and we all actually worked 226 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:14,600 at Kim's Underground. 227 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,970 - And what was Kim's Underground? 228 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,970 - Kim's was a video chain. 229 00:12:19,970 --> 00:12:23,230 Pretty much it was always video rentals and sales. 230 00:12:23,230 --> 00:12:25,970 - Mr. Kim was a businessman. 231 00:12:25,970 --> 00:12:27,470 He had a dry cleaners. 232 00:12:27,470 --> 00:12:32,470 Somehow this really crazy New York film buff guy 233 00:12:33,150 --> 00:12:36,890 convinced him, let's do a little video store here. 234 00:12:36,890 --> 00:12:40,073 Everything from experimental film to, you know, 235 00:12:40,073 --> 00:12:41,810 just the history of indie cinema 236 00:12:41,810 --> 00:12:44,560 and they would even bootleg videotapes, 237 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:46,610 you know if they couldn't find real copies. 238 00:12:46,610 --> 00:12:48,810 The store was very successful. 239 00:12:48,810 --> 00:12:50,380 But I think Mr. Kim just saw it 240 00:12:50,380 --> 00:12:51,680 as an opportunity more than anything 241 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:53,800 and Kim's had a video store and a record store. 242 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,243 We were in the back of a popular video store. 243 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:58,780 - At the height of Kim's success, 244 00:12:58,780 --> 00:13:00,520 there were I think four locations? 245 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,900 And I'm pretty sure on the books, 246 00:13:01,900 --> 00:13:03,260 he had about five employees. 247 00:13:03,260 --> 00:13:04,810 And these were stores that were open 248 00:13:04,810 --> 00:13:08,450 from like noon to midnight every day, seven days a week. 249 00:13:08,450 --> 00:13:10,770 So, you can imagine that there were probably 250 00:13:10,770 --> 00:13:12,320 a few more employees than that. 251 00:13:13,426 --> 00:13:16,270 And when Chris moved here and got the job there, 252 00:13:16,270 --> 00:13:18,450 and Mr. Kim was like, "We pay cash", or whatever, 253 00:13:18,450 --> 00:13:19,870 he was like, "No." 254 00:13:19,870 --> 00:13:23,153 He was like, "What if the IRS comes after me? 255 00:13:23,153 --> 00:13:26,050 "I can't be working under-the-table." 256 00:13:26,050 --> 00:13:28,953 - That really just speaks to the difference 257 00:13:28,953 --> 00:13:30,190 between the two of them, 258 00:13:30,190 --> 00:13:32,730 because I remember Josh was working at Kim's 259 00:13:32,730 --> 00:13:34,989 and he was like, "Look at all this money I have." 260 00:13:34,989 --> 00:13:38,130 He just had wads of cash everywhere. 261 00:13:38,130 --> 00:13:40,850 - So then you met this other character, Josh. 262 00:13:40,850 --> 00:13:42,230 - Josh was working there. 263 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:44,170 When I moved to New York Josh was already working there 264 00:13:44,170 --> 00:13:48,233 and our other partner Jeff Gibson was working there as well. 265 00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:50,910 Jeff and I had always talked about, 266 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:55,910 we could do this ourselves and do it even better 267 00:13:56,020 --> 00:13:58,370 and with more freedom to buy 268 00:13:58,370 --> 00:14:01,213 what we wanted to buy and carry more things. 269 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,430 I think I just told Kim that I was moving on, you know. 270 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:07,440 I didn't tell anybody about our plans. 271 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,733 I called him afterwards and told him we were opening. 272 00:14:12,630 --> 00:14:15,240 - He really freaked out Jeff, our partner here. 273 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,310 Jeff was I think genuinely terrified 274 00:14:17,310 --> 00:14:19,750 that Mr. Kim was gonna try to kill us 275 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:22,063 when we left and started this place. 276 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:26,373 I don't think Mr. Kim was considering killing us. 277 00:14:27,683 --> 00:14:30,300 - By the time we came to Josh about joining us, 278 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:32,400 we had already kind of picked the space. 279 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,030 Obviously we wanted to be downtown 280 00:14:34,030 --> 00:14:36,630 with all the other record stores around here. 281 00:14:36,630 --> 00:14:39,400 - It is significant, the actual location. 282 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,170 Astor Place is kind of the village green of that hood. 283 00:14:43,170 --> 00:14:45,900 Downtown New York, above SoHo, 284 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:48,820 the kind of commercial side of the East Village. 285 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:51,180 But also if you keep going west, 286 00:14:51,180 --> 00:14:55,340 you're heading into kind of old school '60s bohemia land, 287 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:58,350 and to your east is Mercury Lounge, isn't very far away. 288 00:14:58,350 --> 00:15:00,280 Brownies wasn't very far away. 289 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,800 It's also NYU, you feel this sense of the energy 290 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,610 of downtown New York City. 291 00:15:05,610 --> 00:15:08,920 - Got a sublease on this place on East 4th Street, 292 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,350 and painted the floor, 293 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:13,930 put some racks up and just started buying records 294 00:15:13,930 --> 00:15:16,600 and it took off very quickly for us. 295 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,433 - Here it is. 296 00:15:17,433 --> 00:15:21,700 This is the very first sales we ever did, handwritten. 297 00:15:21,700 --> 00:15:24,463 We did $362.98. 298 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:29,450 - So, what do these guys go and do? 299 00:15:29,450 --> 00:15:32,260 They decide to open a record store across the street 300 00:15:32,260 --> 00:15:34,400 from the biggest record store in New York City 301 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,000 at the time called Tower Records. 302 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,052 An institution! 303 00:15:38,052 --> 00:15:41,550 What madness led you to that location? 304 00:15:41,550 --> 00:15:43,147 - I had a guy come in, he was like, 305 00:15:43,147 --> 00:15:45,070 "So what are you guys selling here?" 306 00:15:45,070 --> 00:15:47,070 And we were like, "We're selling music." 307 00:15:48,060 --> 00:15:51,527 And he's like, "Have you looked out your window?" 308 00:15:52,530 --> 00:15:54,450 - There was a giant Tower Records 309 00:15:54,450 --> 00:15:55,740 literally across the street, 310 00:15:55,740 --> 00:16:00,270 so, you could buy anything that a major label 311 00:16:00,270 --> 00:16:03,628 had to offer at Tower Records across the street. 312 00:16:03,628 --> 00:16:06,211 (indie rock music) 313 00:16:09,899 --> 00:16:13,662 - Hello Tower, hello Tower, hello Tower, 314 00:16:13,662 --> 00:16:16,867 hello Tower, hello Tower, hello Tower, 315 00:16:16,867 --> 00:16:19,642 hello Tower, hello Tower, hello Tower, 316 00:16:19,642 --> 00:16:23,892 hello Tower, hello Tower, hello Tower, hello Tower! 317 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,000 - We had a ton of people coming here all the time 318 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 saying, "How can you do it? "It seems so crazy." 319 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,683 And it always seemed like they didn't quite get it. 320 00:16:30,683 --> 00:16:33,900 - I always thought of it as kind of like the curated, 321 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:38,450 cool place across from this massive mega-store. 322 00:16:38,450 --> 00:16:40,650 - I was like, "This is genius." 323 00:16:40,650 --> 00:16:41,850 That's so smart of them. 324 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:45,880 It was subversive in its geographical location. 325 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,090 And from that day forward, 326 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:50,573 I never went into Tower Records again. 327 00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:56,340 - It made East 4th in between Broadway and Lafayette, 328 00:16:56,340 --> 00:16:59,340 that little block was a very important music block. 329 00:16:59,340 --> 00:17:02,790 - Music consumers and music lovers from all over the world, 330 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:04,610 Tower was a magnet for them. 331 00:17:04,610 --> 00:17:06,037 And we just happened to be across the street, 332 00:17:06,037 --> 00:17:08,210 so they came to us too. 333 00:17:08,210 --> 00:17:09,280 - Jeff came up with the name 334 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,510 and he said that that was how he always would describe 335 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:14,247 what he was into to his parents' friends. 336 00:17:14,247 --> 00:17:16,930 "I listen to other music, something else." 337 00:17:16,930 --> 00:17:18,390 There's a sense that underground music 338 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:20,460 or something is for the snotty kids. 339 00:17:20,460 --> 00:17:23,530 But we try to have a little more sophisticated look 340 00:17:23,530 --> 00:17:24,710 at what that could mean. 341 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:28,010 There's such a broad spectrum of experimental music, 342 00:17:28,010 --> 00:17:32,690 from jazz and classical to noise to electronic stuff 343 00:17:32,690 --> 00:17:36,030 that may come out of dance clubs, but pushes boundaries. 344 00:17:36,030 --> 00:17:40,250 We just always wanted to be on the edge 345 00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:41,937 of what was happening in culture. 346 00:17:41,937 --> 00:17:44,620 (krautrock music) 347 00:17:44,620 --> 00:17:46,380 - Growing up going to Other Music, 348 00:17:46,380 --> 00:17:48,220 I literally discovered genres 349 00:17:48,220 --> 00:17:50,470 because of the way they would organize the music. 350 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:52,300 You know, you'd go to other record stores 351 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:55,470 and you might go to the world section. 352 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:57,640 Whereas Other Music had these more specific ways 353 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,900 of dividing up music. 354 00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:00,700 - We needed a different way to organize it 355 00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:02,490 that was the way record collectors thought. 356 00:18:02,490 --> 00:18:04,090 That was the way people, you know, 357 00:18:04,090 --> 00:18:06,380 passionate fans bought music. 358 00:18:06,380 --> 00:18:07,810 It wasn't just a list. 359 00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:09,850 - A lot of international music, 360 00:18:09,850 --> 00:18:12,500 a lot of European pop. 361 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:16,550 - Electronica, krautrock, experimental, 362 00:18:16,550 --> 00:18:18,377 and then whatever the hell called "In." 363 00:18:18,377 --> 00:18:20,960 - "In" is where you would find what? 364 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,750 I don't know, Galaxie 500? 365 00:18:22,750 --> 00:18:25,400 - The first section I walked into was "Out." 366 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,373 - What was "Out?" 367 00:18:28,317 --> 00:18:30,640 - "Out" was where you'd find Stockhausen? 368 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,717 Okay, good, I got it, I got through that. 369 00:18:32,717 --> 00:18:37,420 - "Then", which was bands that do not exist any longer. 370 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:40,510 - And I was like, "What, what the heck is this?" 371 00:18:40,510 --> 00:18:41,650 And I just couldn't figure it out 372 00:18:41,650 --> 00:18:44,520 and I got so freaked and I just left. 373 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,570 - In that "Then" section, 374 00:18:45,570 --> 00:18:49,670 there would be classic punk along with folk reissues. 375 00:18:49,670 --> 00:18:51,140 It's just trying to find a different way 376 00:18:51,140 --> 00:18:55,130 to both cater to the passionate fans that came in 377 00:18:55,130 --> 00:18:57,270 and also I think just kind of surprise people, 378 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:58,103 shake them up, 379 00:18:58,103 --> 00:18:59,400 make them think about music in a different way. 380 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,510 I think our most famous section in that realm 381 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:05,087 would be "La Decadanse." 382 00:19:07,317 --> 00:19:09,410 - The "Decadanse" section 383 00:19:09,410 --> 00:19:11,510 was thoroughly confusing to me at first. 384 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:13,970 I really didn't know what that was. 385 00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:17,147 - Jeff was particularly passionate about Serge Gainsbourg 386 00:19:17,147 --> 00:19:18,500 and was married to a Belgian, 387 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:21,947 so he was much more familiar with a lot of European music 388 00:19:21,947 --> 00:19:23,520 and he would bring in these imports 389 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,870 and they were very hard to come by 390 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:26,220 and he was just so excited about it 391 00:19:26,220 --> 00:19:27,620 he basically made everyone at the store 392 00:19:27,620 --> 00:19:28,790 love Serge Gainsbourg. 393 00:19:28,790 --> 00:19:31,170 I didn't know about him and that's how I found out, 394 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,240 and then eventually the records got reissued. 395 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,030 - It was like a strange configuration of French pop, 396 00:19:37,030 --> 00:19:39,630 and easy listening was kind of coming back then, 397 00:19:39,630 --> 00:19:41,750 so stuff like Martin Denny or Esquivel, 398 00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:43,629 things like that we sold so many of. 399 00:19:43,629 --> 00:19:45,429 (French pop music) 400 00:19:45,429 --> 00:19:49,262 (singing in foreign language) 401 00:19:56,410 --> 00:19:57,270 - The early days, 402 00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:59,630 they didn't have any paid employees for quite some time. 403 00:19:59,630 --> 00:20:01,960 - We still were slow in terms of hiring people. 404 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,242 We still were working seven days a week. 405 00:20:04,242 --> 00:20:05,540 We hired people when we had to, 406 00:20:05,540 --> 00:20:07,600 but we it's not like we had deep pockets. 407 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,293 So it was just trying to make it work. 408 00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:13,187 - We had just started dating, so he would be like, 409 00:20:13,187 --> 00:20:14,247 "Well, come to the store. 410 00:20:14,247 --> 00:20:16,090 "We'll have a store date." 411 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:19,690 Which was kind of like asking me to work for free. 412 00:20:19,690 --> 00:20:20,840 - You had to have a store date 413 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,320 where you came and you had takeout 414 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,312 and you stood at the counter. 415 00:20:23,312 --> 00:20:25,160 In between ringing up customers, 416 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,250 you might actually talk for a minute. 417 00:20:27,250 --> 00:20:28,780 - Yeah, we just sat there 418 00:20:28,780 --> 00:20:30,780 and taped a lot of records and hung out. 419 00:20:32,370 --> 00:20:36,790 - Weekends, Lydia and Dawn would work the register 420 00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:37,720 and we would be out with customers. 421 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,270 Josh and I would be out with customers. 422 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:41,050 Jeff would be pricing used things 423 00:20:41,050 --> 00:20:42,950 and other stuff that had just come in. 424 00:20:43,950 --> 00:20:47,710 - With the Monks, it is not in print in the United States. 425 00:20:47,710 --> 00:20:51,490 It's available only from a German label called Repertoire. 426 00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:55,040 So we have to get them when we can. 427 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,720 - Jeff was incredibly knowledgeable about music, 428 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,390 really passionate, constantly finding new things, 429 00:21:01,390 --> 00:21:05,080 always finding some new obscure reissue or something. 430 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,560 Chris dealt with the business 431 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,410 and also was just very customer-oriented. 432 00:21:10,410 --> 00:21:12,920 He's always been someone who can spend all day 433 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,210 just talking to the customers, helping people out. 434 00:21:15,210 --> 00:21:17,140 He's very service-oriented. 435 00:21:17,140 --> 00:21:19,510 - They incorporate a lot of brass instruments, 436 00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:20,343 and their earlier stuff 437 00:21:20,343 --> 00:21:23,180 used to be a little more eastern European sounding. 438 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:24,880 - That was a little harder for me. 439 00:21:26,117 --> 00:21:29,233 I don't think I was instantly as personable and easy-going. 440 00:21:30,420 --> 00:21:32,760 - Josh was always sitting at his back desk, 441 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,970 listening to people who came in and out. 442 00:21:34,970 --> 00:21:37,356 He did all the training, he was very strict. 443 00:21:37,356 --> 00:21:38,320 - I don't think he had any hair then. 444 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,190 I think I think you just shaved your head. 445 00:21:40,190 --> 00:21:42,710 - Oh yeah, I had a super short crew cut. 446 00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:45,480 - He kind of had that D.C. look about him. 447 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,950 - Josh was always looking for ways 448 00:21:47,950 --> 00:21:50,800 to have the shop help the community. 449 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,060 In-stores, releases that the shop could put out 450 00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:56,211 that maybe no other labels would. 451 00:21:56,211 --> 00:21:58,020 - He's two steps ahead of you 452 00:21:58,020 --> 00:21:59,400 when you're presenting something to him. 453 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,317 He's very linear, already has it worked out in his head. 454 00:22:01,317 --> 00:22:03,510 He's just like, "Let's go." 455 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:04,760 - I'm thinking about going outside 456 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,200 and trying to get that flag down. 457 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,340 - I don't know if I would, I don't know. 458 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:10,963 - Today is the day to do it. - I mean it's, yeah, try, try. 459 00:22:13,870 --> 00:22:16,210 - In some ways they're polar opposites, 460 00:22:16,210 --> 00:22:18,780 but they've both been really great to work for. 461 00:22:18,780 --> 00:22:21,490 I mean, I would not have been here for 15-plus years 462 00:22:21,490 --> 00:22:23,470 if I didn't like working for them. 463 00:22:23,470 --> 00:22:26,470 - Is there some ceremonial way 464 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:28,020 you're supposed to fold a flag? 465 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:30,740 You can't just throw it on top of a garbage bag, can you? 466 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:33,347 - It's one of those things where it transcends a job. 467 00:22:33,347 --> 00:22:35,022 These people become your family. 468 00:22:35,022 --> 00:22:37,605 (dance music) 469 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,590 - Duane worked at CMJ. 470 00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:42,960 - He was my intern. - He was an intern at CMJ 471 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,130 and so he would review pretty much anything. 472 00:22:46,130 --> 00:22:47,900 He could find an angle on everything. 473 00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:51,400 For a young kid that was pretty surprising. 474 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,850 - I was just so excited and happy 475 00:22:53,850 --> 00:22:56,930 that a store like this existed. 476 00:22:56,930 --> 00:23:00,650 So immediately after Lydia told me to apply here, I did. 477 00:23:00,650 --> 00:23:04,490 - All of them had encyclopedic music knowledge, 478 00:23:04,490 --> 00:23:07,550 but Duane was definitely full-spectrum. 479 00:23:07,550 --> 00:23:10,640 Like, "Just get Duane," because he's gonna know. 480 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,190 - Check this out. 481 00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:14,970 The original version of "Bette Davis Eyes" is on here. 482 00:23:14,970 --> 00:23:17,156 - What? - And it's a country song. 483 00:23:17,156 --> 00:23:19,962 - Shut up. - Yeah, Jackie DeShannon. 484 00:23:19,962 --> 00:23:22,169 She wrote "Put A Little Love in Your Heart" 485 00:23:22,169 --> 00:23:26,430 and did that really cool Laurel Canyon album. 486 00:23:26,430 --> 00:23:29,103 When I came in, I wanted to learn about the sections 487 00:23:29,103 --> 00:23:29,936 that were there. 488 00:23:29,936 --> 00:23:31,150 But then what was also great 489 00:23:31,150 --> 00:23:32,380 was that there was a lot of room 490 00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:35,187 for me to bring my aesthetic in. 491 00:23:35,187 --> 00:23:36,600 It was really, really cool to be able 492 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,737 to build a hip hop section from scratch here. 493 00:23:38,737 --> 00:23:42,487 (Beans rapping passionately) 494 00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:52,970 - Beans worked here before Anti Pop Consortium 495 00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:54,900 put out their first record. 496 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:56,590 The day Beans arrived, 497 00:23:56,590 --> 00:23:59,520 everybody was like, "Who the fuck is that guy?" 498 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,360 - Beans would sit there in the corner 499 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,170 with his huge mirrored shades 500 00:24:03,170 --> 00:24:05,560 and you could never see where his eyes were ever. 501 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,600 And he would just be like, "What's up?" 502 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,180 - Beans is a hero of mine 503 00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:12,420 and the fact that I could just walk in 504 00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:14,177 and be like, "Oh I can't. 505 00:24:14,177 --> 00:24:15,750 "There's Beans, I can't talk to Beans." 506 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:19,080 - He was the only staff member I think we ever had 507 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,160 who would just relentlessly suggest his own music. 508 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280 It just didn't matter what you said you were into. 509 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,067 He'd always be like, "Have you checked out 510 00:24:27,067 --> 00:24:29,102 "the new Anti Pop Consortium?" 511 00:24:29,102 --> 00:24:33,040 (Beans rapping) 512 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,640 - This is the type of business 513 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,110 where it encouraged artists to be on staff. 514 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:41,960 It encouraged artists to be artists. 515 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,900 - It was great at first 'cause the exact amount of time 516 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:47,150 I could take off from Other was the amount of time 517 00:24:47,150 --> 00:24:48,070 we would go on tour. 518 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:50,620 Just in the beginning, three weeks or something like that. 519 00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:53,640 - People who work here don't make a lot of money, 520 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,220 but working here enables them to do other things 521 00:24:56,220 --> 00:24:58,360 that they might be connected with, 522 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:00,260 and this maybe helps them. 523 00:25:00,260 --> 00:25:03,280 - Other Music was a tough place to get a job. 524 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,400 It was really stacked with people 525 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,313 who'd been there for a decade or more. 526 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,200 - What we did all day was talk about records on the floor. 527 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,150 You had to wanna do that and you had to have deep knowledge. 528 00:25:14,150 --> 00:25:17,370 - I know dance music, I know soul music, I know reggae. 529 00:25:17,370 --> 00:25:20,020 But I didn't know indie rock so much. 530 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:21,790 So I was a little nervous going into the interview. 531 00:25:21,790 --> 00:25:24,870 But aside from that, I knew I knew my shit. 532 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:27,130 One of my all-time favorites, Keith Hudson. 533 00:25:27,130 --> 00:25:29,620 Super spooky reggae, 534 00:25:29,620 --> 00:25:34,170 but a no less spiritually-minded left-of-center vocalist. 535 00:25:34,170 --> 00:25:35,825 - You sold me on that one right away. 536 00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:38,710 - Absolutely, classic record. 537 00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:40,200 The first couple years, 538 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,730 it was like nowhere I had ever worked before. 539 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:45,240 It was crazy. 540 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,590 Just from the amount of personalities 541 00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:49,820 you had to interact with on the staff 542 00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:51,610 and then the amount of people 543 00:25:51,610 --> 00:25:53,020 that would come into the store, 544 00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:58,020 and that amount of traffic coming to you all day long going, 545 00:25:59,297 --> 00:26:01,112 "What do you like?" or "What does this sound like?" 546 00:26:01,112 --> 00:26:04,480 It was just like, "Oh my God, I'm exhausted." 547 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,313 - Do you need anything? 548 00:26:05,313 --> 00:26:07,050 Yeah. - Do you have Depeche Mode? 549 00:26:07,050 --> 00:26:09,240 - On vinyl? - It's none of these. 550 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,010 - Yeah, it's not these unfortunately. 551 00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:14,310 Depeche Mode, it's the one with the crazy beak person. 552 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:15,590 - I'm not seeing it. 553 00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:17,330 - It looks like a bare-chested person 554 00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:19,800 and the beak is crossing like this. 555 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,800 Can you tell me the title one more time? 556 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,410 Chris, "Walking In My Shoes." 557 00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:27,030 Is it possible it's a single? 558 00:26:27,030 --> 00:26:29,098 It is on this record. 559 00:26:29,098 --> 00:26:30,810 - It's a specific thing I want. 560 00:26:30,810 --> 00:26:33,050 - No, I get it, because you want that cover art 561 00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:34,910 and there's remixes or something? 562 00:26:34,910 --> 00:26:36,890 Oh no wonder, it's a collectible. 563 00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:38,790 It's a $75 record. 564 00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:40,510 - Okay. - Yeah. 565 00:26:40,510 --> 00:26:42,900 - Over time they knew what was in your record collection. 566 00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:44,360 They knew what excited you. 567 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:46,770 You knew what excited them. 568 00:26:46,770 --> 00:26:50,020 So the conversations just went to deeper and deeper levels. 569 00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:51,480 - People love stories. 570 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,760 People love a good story. 571 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,700 That's one thing I learned from Duane Harriott. 572 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,880 If people love the story, they would buy it. 573 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,350 - The vocalist from the Spinners, 574 00:26:59,350 --> 00:27:01,000 it was one of his last 12-inches 575 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,810 that he made before he died, because he died on stage. 576 00:27:03,810 --> 00:27:05,461 He had a heart attack on stage. 577 00:27:05,461 --> 00:27:07,672 That's pretty gangster. 578 00:27:07,672 --> 00:27:11,500 That's some gangster shit though, come on. 579 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,870 - It wasn't putting your taste on someone else. 580 00:27:13,870 --> 00:27:16,410 It's really about talking to the customer 581 00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:18,670 and getting what they're looking for 582 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:20,720 and understanding where they're coming from. 583 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,070 And being able to take what they tell you 584 00:27:23,070 --> 00:27:25,420 and recommend something that they'll like. 585 00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:29,700 - Holy shit, this one is amazing. 586 00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:31,350 - Martin Newell is the gentleman 587 00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:33,240 who is in Cleaners From Venus. 588 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,596 It's like a lo-fi, kind of indie pop thing. 589 00:27:36,596 --> 00:27:38,229 - I'm looking for something that's like Lou Reed, 590 00:27:38,229 --> 00:27:40,359 but I probably never heard of. 591 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,890 - Something by Loud Reed? - That's like Lou Reed? 592 00:27:41,890 --> 00:27:44,150 - That's like Lou Reed. - Oh, like Lou Reed, okay. 593 00:27:44,150 --> 00:27:45,743 - Oh do you have that? 594 00:27:45,743 --> 00:27:47,950 It's kind of like Gina X Performance 595 00:27:47,950 --> 00:27:50,700 but with more of a Grace Jones sort of feel to it. 596 00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:51,533 - What else you have? 597 00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:52,960 Give me something fresh. 598 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,240 You have something fresh? 599 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,560 - If you really wanna be good out there, 600 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,330 you've gotta be really up on so much stuff. 601 00:27:59,330 --> 00:28:01,570 Even just being away for a month. 602 00:28:01,570 --> 00:28:04,777 You can just be like, "I don't know, it looks good, 603 00:28:04,777 --> 00:28:06,940 "it's on a good label or something." 604 00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:11,050 - The rite of passage for the new clerk at OM 605 00:28:11,050 --> 00:28:15,710 was to start at "In," grab a legal pad, 606 00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:20,337 and write down every single band in every single section. 607 00:28:20,337 --> 00:28:22,920 (upbeat music) 608 00:28:23,810 --> 00:28:26,363 - I wrote every card in the entire store. 609 00:28:26,363 --> 00:28:28,350 I think it took me like two days to do it 610 00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:29,310 or something like that. 611 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:31,927 - Just that alone was just like, "Whoah." 612 00:28:32,897 --> 00:28:35,290 I thought I knew a lot. 613 00:28:35,290 --> 00:28:37,110 - I didn't know really a single artist 614 00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:38,890 in the soul/funk section. 615 00:28:38,890 --> 00:28:41,440 I was like, "I guess I'll learn." 616 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,940 You would start to become familiar 617 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:44,960 with all of the names of the artists in the shop. 618 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,487 So if someone came in and they were like, 619 00:28:46,487 --> 00:28:49,030 "Hey do you have Chrissy Zebby Tembo?" 620 00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:49,863 You'd be like, "Oh yeah." 621 00:28:49,863 --> 00:28:54,270 - I just knew everything in the store right off the bat. 622 00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:55,353 Just kidding. 623 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,460 - The music that we carry here 624 00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:02,500 is often obscure and confusing, 625 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:05,710 from the sounds to the packaging to the distribution. 626 00:29:05,710 --> 00:29:07,000 Although our buying philosophy 627 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,440 is not to simply unearth the unknown, 628 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,724 our passion for new music and new directions 629 00:29:11,724 --> 00:29:14,830 often leads us into uncharted waters where, 630 00:29:14,830 --> 00:29:17,640 frankly, we feel most comfortable. 631 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,680 One of our main purposes is to make new 632 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,283 or forgotten music available to a wider audience. 633 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:25,000 - Even in electronic music, 634 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,030 an area where I thought I was quite well-versed, 635 00:29:28,030 --> 00:29:31,320 there would be stuff that I had never heard of. 636 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,510 And I often found myself buying stuff 637 00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:35,163 that was completely different. 638 00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:37,690 - One thing about our store, 639 00:29:37,690 --> 00:29:39,660 we always hired people partially 640 00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:41,440 because they were into stuff that was different 641 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,380 from what we were into 642 00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:45,920 and they could add another side to the selection. 643 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,490 - It kind of reminds me almost of Bill Fox or something 644 00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:54,190 where it's sort of Dylan-y but with tons of hooks. 645 00:29:54,190 --> 00:29:56,010 I think you'll love it. 646 00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:59,200 They always gave me a ton of freedom 647 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,570 to just figure out what I was interested in. 648 00:30:02,570 --> 00:30:03,403 They were never like, 649 00:30:03,403 --> 00:30:05,120 "Oh you gotta order this, you gotta order this." 650 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,693 They're like, "We trust you and we trust your taste." 651 00:30:08,693 --> 00:30:12,360 (acoustic folk music) 652 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,000 - Jackson C. Frank was a tragic '60s folk singer. 653 00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:22,780 He had a pretty miserable life 654 00:30:22,780 --> 00:30:26,913 but he made one absolutely flawless beautiful record. 655 00:30:26,913 --> 00:30:31,913 ♪ Catch a boat to England baby, maybe to Spain. ♪ 656 00:30:33,216 --> 00:30:35,850 - I just remember seeing it in the bin one day. 657 00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:37,140 I was like, "Let's check this out." 658 00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:40,992 And just as soon as I put on, within the first note, 659 00:30:40,992 --> 00:30:42,747 it's just like, "Oh my God." 660 00:30:44,953 --> 00:30:47,688 ♪ Send out for whiskey baby ♪ 661 00:30:47,688 --> 00:30:52,688 ♪ Send out for gin, me and room service honey ♪ 662 00:30:53,630 --> 00:30:58,242 ♪ Me and room service babe, me and room service ♪ 663 00:30:58,242 --> 00:31:01,203 ♪ Well we're living a life of sin ♪ 664 00:31:01,203 --> 00:31:02,860 - Michael Klausman brought 665 00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:07,860 a lot of cobweb reissue vibes to the store. 666 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,010 - Dan Hougland and Chris O'Rourke who was a manager there, 667 00:31:11,010 --> 00:31:13,276 kinda went up to Michael and they were like, 668 00:31:13,276 --> 00:31:14,340 "You know you can play some CDs, 669 00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:16,190 "you don't have to play NPR all day." 670 00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:25,720 - You could live in kind of a dream world of esoterica. 671 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,450 - Stuff like Le Orme, an Italian psych band I got into. 672 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:31,470 I think Duane recommended it to me once. 673 00:31:36,163 --> 00:31:38,080 - Os Mutantes, at one point 674 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,110 we could not keep those things in the store. 675 00:31:40,110 --> 00:31:42,493 - I found that solo Masaki Batoh record. 676 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,567 I was so excited and I grabbed that like, 677 00:31:46,567 --> 00:31:49,230 "Oh my god, I can't believe this exists." 678 00:31:49,230 --> 00:31:52,420 - We would also stock everybody from Pantha Du Prince, 679 00:31:52,420 --> 00:31:55,220 Blossom Toes, Peanut Butter Wolf. 680 00:31:55,220 --> 00:31:58,790 - A CD by Tristan Perich, but instead of a compact disc, 681 00:31:58,790 --> 00:32:00,540 it had components that made a loop. 682 00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:02,667 We sold hundreds of them. 683 00:32:02,667 --> 00:32:04,590 ♪ In Canada ♪ 684 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:06,007 - B.J. Snowden. 685 00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:07,828 - "Songs In The Key Of Z." 686 00:32:07,828 --> 00:32:09,764 - This Morton Feldman recording. 687 00:32:09,764 --> 00:32:11,200 - The Shintaro Sakamoto, 688 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,810 the Nude Beach record, the Ex Cops record. 689 00:32:13,810 --> 00:32:14,920 - 75 Dollar Bill. 690 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,080 - Quasimoto. - Oneohtrix Point Never. 691 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,210 - Julianna Barwick. 692 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:20,280 - Karen Dalton, Vashti Bunyan. 693 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,720 - The Vashti Bunyan reissue. 694 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,540 - Vashti Bunyan, "Just Another Diamond Day." 695 00:32:23,540 --> 00:32:25,560 - Dungen, we reviewed Dungen. 696 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,350 - That Aphrodite's Child record. 697 00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:31,560 - Arthur Russell, minidiscs, cassettes, CDs, whatever. 698 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,250 - Digital experimental minimal music, you know? 699 00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:36,240 But patterned, patterned minimal music. 700 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,233 - Harmonia, Cluster, even that Velvet Tinmine compilation. 701 00:32:41,230 --> 00:32:42,960 - Other Music is the only retail store 702 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,130 where somebody would put on Diamanda Galas 703 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:48,800 to clear the floor at closing time to get everybody out. 704 00:32:50,325 --> 00:32:51,158 - Hey guys, 705 00:32:51,158 --> 00:32:53,270 we're gonna be closing up in a few minutes. 706 00:32:54,820 --> 00:32:56,173 - That foghorn record. 707 00:32:56,173 --> 00:32:57,564 - I loved that foghorn record. 708 00:32:57,564 --> 00:33:00,343 - There was a record of foghorns and it was so beautiful. 709 00:33:04,735 --> 00:33:06,818 - It's suddenly so quiet. 710 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,900 - Let me flip this record. 711 00:33:11,886 --> 00:33:14,870 (techno music) 712 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:17,733 It's nice how it steps up, it just like, steps up. 713 00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:22,660 - The art of learning what people 714 00:33:22,660 --> 00:33:24,450 wanna listen to at a certain time of day 715 00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:26,340 and putting records on the stereo, 716 00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:29,530 it's such a difficult thing that I feel like no algorithm 717 00:33:29,530 --> 00:33:31,453 will ever be able to recreate. 718 00:33:37,330 --> 00:33:39,563 We would be constantly listening to records in the shop 719 00:33:39,563 --> 00:33:42,000 and as soon as people heard it, 720 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,118 they were just, like, this is something I need. 721 00:33:45,118 --> 00:33:49,035 (calypso music) 722 00:33:50,277 --> 00:33:52,140 - Excuse me, do you know who sings this song? 723 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:52,973 - What's that? 724 00:33:52,973 --> 00:33:54,230 - Do you know whose song this is? 725 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:55,920 - I don't, what did you just put on? 726 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,973 - Is it for sale? - It's for sale. 727 00:33:57,973 --> 00:33:59,496 If you want it, I can take it off the turntable. 728 00:33:59,496 --> 00:34:01,030 - Thanks! 729 00:34:01,030 --> 00:34:02,850 - So good it sold right away. 730 00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:16,573 - Yeah, aren't there no more rock stars? 731 00:34:17,910 --> 00:34:19,434 - He didn't get the message, he's one of the last ones. 732 00:34:19,434 --> 00:34:21,618 - Him and Dave Grohl are fighting 733 00:34:21,618 --> 00:34:23,755 to be the very last one ever. - Exactly, those two are. 734 00:34:23,755 --> 00:34:26,030 They're two sides of the same coin. 735 00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:29,310 - I just come sometimes to look at the wall of vinyl. 736 00:34:29,310 --> 00:34:32,310 It gives me this great warm feeling. 737 00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:36,243 I grew up as a girl collecting records 738 00:34:36,243 --> 00:34:38,710 from when I was very, very small, 739 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:42,240 and there was always a lot of way older men 740 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:45,020 than me being condescending about records. 741 00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:48,395 But I didn't get that vibe here. 742 00:34:48,395 --> 00:34:50,730 - There were girls there, you know. 743 00:34:50,730 --> 00:34:51,770 There were girls there 744 00:34:51,770 --> 00:34:54,300 and they hired women and it was great. 745 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,940 - That's a rarity at a record store, 746 00:34:56,940 --> 00:34:58,430 as an employee and as a customer, 747 00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:01,040 to have ladies behind the counter. 748 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,410 - You would definitely see way more men 749 00:35:03,410 --> 00:35:06,817 walk in through the doors, but whenever a woman walked in, 750 00:35:06,817 --> 00:35:10,040 it wasn't like, "She doesn't know anything about music." 751 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,590 - I would compare it to dark synth type stuff. 752 00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:17,860 - I would go there and do research. 753 00:35:17,860 --> 00:35:19,290 I didn't know any other people 754 00:35:19,290 --> 00:35:22,570 really who were as nerdy as I was about music, as obsessive. 755 00:35:22,570 --> 00:35:24,700 I had this rock encyclopedia 756 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,590 and I would get in bed at night and read it, 757 00:35:27,590 --> 00:35:29,980 and going to Other Music was an extension of that. 758 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:31,987 It was like, "Okay, I've done some homework 759 00:35:31,987 --> 00:35:34,783 "and some reading and now I can go to class." 760 00:35:34,783 --> 00:35:36,220 - Hello. 761 00:35:36,220 --> 00:35:37,950 Excellent choice. - Oh yeah. 762 00:35:37,950 --> 00:35:39,383 - You can tell she's from New York. 763 00:35:39,383 --> 00:35:41,127 - I could see that you're from New York. 764 00:35:41,127 --> 00:35:43,340 - She can see that you're from New York? 765 00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:45,440 - Visually, visual culture happening. 766 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,090 You, me, cats, I went to college in Queens. 767 00:35:48,090 --> 00:35:51,560 - Managing Other Music, it was like herding a bunch of cats, 768 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,833 but super nerdy weird cats. 769 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,850 - Do you wanna do push-ups? 770 00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:57,761 - Yeah, bro. 771 00:35:57,761 --> 00:35:59,170 You wanna get swole bro? 772 00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:00,080 I got this bro. 773 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,383 Alright, we're gonna clap our hands when we get up. 774 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,527 - I remember so often I would walk in 775 00:36:04,527 --> 00:36:07,347 there and be like, "How did you guys get hired? 776 00:36:07,347 --> 00:36:09,449 "I know you don't have a resume. 777 00:36:09,449 --> 00:36:11,330 "How are you all here?" 778 00:36:11,330 --> 00:36:13,230 - I think what we weren't as good at sometimes was, 779 00:36:13,230 --> 00:36:14,063 we would always try to see, 780 00:36:14,063 --> 00:36:16,100 do they have any retail experience? 781 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,040 Trying to figure out if they're gonna be responsible, 782 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,990 on time. 783 00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:22,076 We famously have hired a lot of people 784 00:36:22,076 --> 00:36:24,390 who could never show up to work on time. 785 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:26,400 - Everyone brings their peculiarities 786 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,480 and I think that the store has been a home for everybody 787 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,940 who likes any weird number of sub-genres of music, 788 00:36:33,940 --> 00:36:37,930 in addition to struggling with other aspects of life 789 00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:39,120 where they maybe wouldn't fit 790 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,830 into a nine-to-five corporate job. 791 00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:45,030 - Excuse me, do you have any new concert tickets on sale? 792 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:47,830 - Yeah there's this new Devendra Banhart concert, 793 00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:49,083 it's gonna be in a dumpster on 32nd Street. 794 00:36:49,083 --> 00:36:51,724 We just got a couple of tickets in for that. 795 00:36:51,724 --> 00:36:53,423 - A dumpster, that sounds gross. 796 00:36:54,340 --> 00:36:56,250 - Sorry it's not gonna be in Wembley Stadium. 797 00:36:56,250 --> 00:36:59,400 - Yeah, it's gonna be an intimate little gig in a dumpster. 798 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,430 - Dumpster. 799 00:37:00,430 --> 00:37:01,263 - I understood that. 800 00:37:01,263 --> 00:37:03,050 - The concert's gonna be in a dumpster. 801 00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:04,860 - I heard you the second time. 802 00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:07,410 - There shouldn't have been an intimidation factor, 803 00:37:08,565 --> 00:37:09,500 but there was. 804 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,118 I'm not the first person to say that, right? 805 00:37:12,118 --> 00:37:14,410 - Do you have the Garden State soundtrack? 806 00:37:14,410 --> 00:37:16,236 That's supposed to be indie-tastic. 807 00:37:16,236 --> 00:37:17,859 - I think we might have that in the back. 808 00:37:17,859 --> 00:37:18,796 - In the back room here? - Yeah, come on. 809 00:37:18,796 --> 00:37:19,629 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 810 00:37:19,629 --> 00:37:21,810 - Wait, this is just a bathroom, 811 00:37:21,810 --> 00:37:24,043 oh my God! (gun firing) 812 00:37:24,043 --> 00:37:26,310 - I remember asking someone who worked there 813 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:30,530 about an album that was in the staff "We love" section. 814 00:37:30,530 --> 00:37:32,140 He was like, "Yeah, I don't like it." 815 00:37:32,140 --> 00:37:34,037 I was like, "Wow, this is badass. 816 00:37:34,037 --> 00:37:36,520 "This guy doesn't even like the stuff that they like." 817 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,270 - Every clerk has his day where they're not in the best mood 818 00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:41,330 and someone asks them for the third time the same question 819 00:37:41,330 --> 00:37:42,900 and they're irritated and they come off 820 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:46,590 as not being as welcoming as they could. 821 00:37:46,590 --> 00:37:48,670 - What are we looking for, first of all? 822 00:37:48,670 --> 00:37:49,940 Are we looking for reggae records? 823 00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:51,140 Are we looking for dub records? 824 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:53,210 What are we looking for? - Well... 825 00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:54,043 - Let's just go over there. 826 00:37:54,043 --> 00:37:54,951 - Even if you don't have one of these, 827 00:37:54,951 --> 00:37:57,320 maybe what you do like. - Let's just go over there. 828 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,300 If you come at me being a hot mess 829 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:02,563 and not knowing what you are looking for, 830 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,253 I'm not always the most understanding. 831 00:38:07,150 --> 00:38:11,304 - I was hungover, I wasn't meaning to be a snob sometimes. 832 00:38:11,304 --> 00:38:12,720 I just couldn't speak. 833 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,044 - If I'm completely honest, I was never just chill in there. 834 00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:18,757 I always got that first day of school feeling like, 835 00:38:18,757 --> 00:38:21,450 "Okay, just don't fuck up." 836 00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:23,540 - They are specialists in a lot of ways, 837 00:38:23,540 --> 00:38:25,730 'cause they're dealing with music nonstop, 838 00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:27,150 all the time throughout the day. 839 00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:28,360 So they just hear so much 840 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,490 and that knowledge base can be intimidating. 841 00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:35,610 So even what isn't snobby can be perceived as snobby-ness 842 00:38:35,610 --> 00:38:37,920 just 'cause the knowledge is kind of elite. 843 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,907 - I never quite understood that, 844 00:38:38,907 --> 00:38:40,610 I would read that sometimes 845 00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:42,910 and I just never quite agreed with it 846 00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:44,980 because that's totally the opposite 847 00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:47,250 of how I wanted things to be, 848 00:38:47,250 --> 00:38:50,600 and how I believe that I conduct myself. 849 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,450 - The only instance of snobbery I ever saw 850 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:55,926 was this guy came in who was very drunk 851 00:38:55,926 --> 00:39:00,860 and asked Chris Vanderloo if they had Stevie Ray Vaughan. 852 00:39:00,860 --> 00:39:03,567 And he said, "Sorry man, we don't have that here." 853 00:39:03,567 --> 00:39:05,697 And the guy stumbled out and muttered something like, 854 00:39:05,697 --> 00:39:07,107 "They were assholes." 855 00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:12,339 But, yeah, he shouldn't have come. 856 00:39:12,339 --> 00:39:14,922 (electronic music) 857 00:39:16,340 --> 00:39:18,570 - We never had anyone here who was super into metal, 858 00:39:18,570 --> 00:39:20,650 so if you were a metal-head and you came in here 859 00:39:20,650 --> 00:39:24,230 then you hated us because there was no one here 860 00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:25,767 who was super passionate about that. 861 00:39:25,767 --> 00:39:29,410 - There was a lot of chips on people's shoulders, 862 00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:30,810 I mean are you kidding me? 863 00:39:30,810 --> 00:39:33,000 It's a store in New York 864 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,750 where everybody's supposed to know about everything. 865 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:40,537 Any place that has any hip aura, people come in like, 866 00:39:40,537 --> 00:39:41,617 "Fuck this hip aura. 867 00:39:41,617 --> 00:39:42,997 "I'm gonna challenge this hip aura. 868 00:39:42,997 --> 00:39:44,860 "I'm gonna dethrone your ass." 869 00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:48,230 - I'd rather have somebody with a really bad attitude 870 00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:52,900 about what music sucks putting up the stuff on the shelves 871 00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,840 than somebody who's just trying to like sell product. 872 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,750 Other Music symbolized something that I find important, 873 00:39:59,750 --> 00:40:03,570 which is keeping the bar on everything high enough. 874 00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:05,800 If your bar on art is high, 875 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,540 then your bar on kindness is high, you know, 876 00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:10,373 or something like that. 877 00:40:10,373 --> 00:40:11,730 And when art gets dumber, 878 00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:13,600 when movies get dumber and TV gets dumber, 879 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,580 I think we all get dumber and meaner and shittier. 880 00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:18,670 You should celebrate the stuff that's better 881 00:40:18,670 --> 00:40:20,650 than the average, you know? 882 00:40:20,650 --> 00:40:21,483 They just made sure 883 00:40:21,483 --> 00:40:23,987 that they weren't selling the average stuff. 884 00:40:23,987 --> 00:40:27,481 (people applauding) 885 00:40:27,481 --> 00:40:32,398 (electroclash music) 886 00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:36,940 - The cool thing about Other Music was, 887 00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:38,420 it wasn't just a record store. 888 00:40:38,420 --> 00:40:41,860 It was definitely like a community center in a lot of ways. 889 00:40:41,860 --> 00:40:43,810 - Other Music hosted in-store performances, 890 00:40:43,810 --> 00:40:48,317 which was a huge way that the shop supported the community. 891 00:40:48,317 --> 00:40:51,150 They were all-ages, they were free. 892 00:40:51,150 --> 00:40:54,330 Often you would be able to get a band's record 893 00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:57,393 for the first time, or before it was even released. 894 00:40:58,986 --> 00:41:01,852 ♪ Hey wait ♪ 895 00:41:01,852 --> 00:41:04,194 ♪ Oh please wait ♪ 896 00:41:04,194 --> 00:41:07,340 ♪ Don't rush off, you won't be late ♪ 897 00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:09,990 - We would move the racks to the side of the shop, 898 00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:11,410 which is already very small. 899 00:41:11,410 --> 00:41:15,930 And then a band, often quite a high profile band 900 00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:18,140 or an exciting new band, would play. 901 00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:19,847 ♪ Put a penny in the pot ♪ 902 00:41:19,847 --> 00:41:21,595 ♪ Put a nickel in your pocket ♪ 903 00:41:21,595 --> 00:41:23,654 ♪ Every nickel that you've got ♪ 904 00:41:23,654 --> 00:41:25,380 ♪ Is a nickel in the slot ♪ 905 00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:29,210 - You basically just have the store lighting on the band. 906 00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:30,490 You would see everything super clearly, 907 00:41:30,490 --> 00:41:32,830 you can watch the band playing their instruments. 908 00:41:32,830 --> 00:41:34,480 You could see what was happening. 909 00:41:35,453 --> 00:41:38,300 ♪ I am sorry to report dear Paris ♪ 910 00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,160 - You could also see the faces 911 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,760 of all the other people in the crowd. 912 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,850 It wasn't like you were having this isolated experience. 913 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,110 - See, this is how we talk amongst each other 914 00:41:53,110 --> 00:41:54,980 and then we kind of figure out what we're gonna do. 915 00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:57,953 Any more fashion disasters that we need to kind of fix? 916 00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:06,660 - It was intimate and it always sounded good, 917 00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:09,683 and people were really reverent and respectful of it. 918 00:42:20,426 --> 00:42:25,160 - One of my favorite memories is the Gary Wilson in-store. 919 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,270 Duane Harriott was talking up this record, 920 00:42:28,270 --> 00:42:30,620 and I don't think anybody had ever heard of it. 921 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,330 - Someone made me a cassette of it 922 00:42:37,330 --> 00:42:38,190 and I listened to it on my Walkman. 923 00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:40,280 And then I had to take it off 924 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,590 because I was scaring people on the train 925 00:42:43,590 --> 00:42:46,470 because I had these facial expressions. 926 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:47,960 Gary Wilson was still incognito, 927 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,110 nobody really knew who or where he was, 928 00:42:50,110 --> 00:42:51,350 he just kind of disappeared. 929 00:42:51,350 --> 00:42:53,480 - The store that started selling the record, Other Music, 930 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,150 they're the only people that really have this record yet 931 00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:56,160 and they already sold out. 932 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,648 - Oh great. - We have to go over there 933 00:42:57,648 --> 00:43:00,730 and bring them more records. 934 00:43:00,730 --> 00:43:02,120 They ordered 120. 935 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,870 - It led up to this reissue 936 00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:06,920 of the "You Think You Really Know Me" record. 937 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,920 And then he came out of nowhere, found a band, 938 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,777 and just destroyed everybody. 939 00:43:13,777 --> 00:43:16,510 (upbeat music) - It was a big deal. 940 00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:19,560 This record, I think, because of Duane's word-of-mouth, 941 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,700 was huge here. 942 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,770 It was constantly playing, and it was selling really well, 943 00:43:23,770 --> 00:43:25,783 and so there was an in-store. 944 00:43:29,790 --> 00:43:30,730 - First of all, he came into the store 945 00:43:30,730 --> 00:43:33,723 with a blanket over his head so nobody could see him. 946 00:43:37,060 --> 00:43:39,800 - In the corner of the record store was this little closet. 947 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,060 And it had a little blue curtain, and he hid back there. 948 00:43:44,060 --> 00:43:46,320 - And he would wouldn't emerge 949 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,120 until the beginning of the show. 950 00:43:50,575 --> 00:43:55,575 He had doused himself in an entire talcum powder bottle, 951 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,550 all over his face, then put sunglasses on. 952 00:43:59,550 --> 00:44:01,605 It was just like, showtime. 953 00:44:01,605 --> 00:44:04,438 (people cheering) 954 00:44:19,962 --> 00:44:22,611 ♪ Foolish heart ♪ 955 00:44:22,611 --> 00:44:25,029 ♪ You're keepin' me away ♪ 956 00:44:25,029 --> 00:44:26,999 ♪ So far away ♪ 957 00:44:26,999 --> 00:44:30,460 ♪ From all the things that I want ♪ 958 00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:34,484 ♪ From day to day, from day to day ♪ 959 00:44:34,484 --> 00:44:35,410 ♪ You keep on lookin' ♪ 960 00:44:35,410 --> 00:44:38,510 - It was the most amazing, bizarre thing 961 00:44:38,510 --> 00:44:39,836 I had ever seen in my life. 962 00:44:39,836 --> 00:44:44,836 He immediately became like top five humans of all time, 963 00:44:45,228 --> 00:44:47,830 for that year. 964 00:44:47,830 --> 00:44:50,383 ♪ From shore to shore ♪ 965 00:44:50,383 --> 00:44:53,468 ♪ Out of repulse ♪ 966 00:44:53,468 --> 00:44:56,948 ♪ That's what they try to say ♪ 967 00:44:56,948 --> 00:45:00,901 ♪ I'll just keep on lovin' you, I'll keep lovin' you ♪ 968 00:45:00,901 --> 00:45:05,901 ♪ From day to day, from day to day ♪ 969 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,430 - Going to live shows is a real, 970 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:13,620 visceral experience that's hard to fit in 971 00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:15,130 with the rest of your daily life sometimes. 972 00:45:15,130 --> 00:45:16,440 It's hard to describe. 973 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,420 It's just a way of having a very sensory experience. 974 00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:32,556 ♪ Two headed boy ♪ 975 00:45:32,556 --> 00:45:37,556 ♪ All floating in glass ♪ 976 00:45:38,003 --> 00:45:40,726 ♪ The sun it has passed ♪ 977 00:45:40,726 --> 00:45:44,247 ♪ Now it's blacker than black ♪ 978 00:45:44,247 --> 00:45:49,247 ♪ I can hear as you tap on your jar ♪ 979 00:45:51,062 --> 00:45:56,062 ♪ I am listening to hear where you are ♪ 980 00:45:57,790 --> 00:46:02,790 ♪ I am listening to hear where you are ♪ 981 00:46:05,472 --> 00:46:08,222 ♪ Two headed boy ♪ 982 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:12,650 - Music, it's a way to connect with other people. 983 00:46:12,650 --> 00:46:15,960 It's a way to connect with yourself. 984 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,670 Maybe live more in the moment, 985 00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:22,670 and live for a purer type of joy 986 00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:26,191 than we get in our daily grind. 987 00:46:26,191 --> 00:46:29,024 (Jeff Mangum vocalizing) 988 00:46:41,727 --> 00:46:42,742 - Thanks. 989 00:46:42,742 --> 00:46:45,575 (people cheering) 990 00:46:49,838 --> 00:46:51,815 - I'm just trying to format something in Word 991 00:46:51,815 --> 00:46:54,442 and I don't understand how to change the font. 992 00:46:54,442 --> 00:46:55,275 - Sure. 993 00:46:55,275 --> 00:46:56,630 - I think you might know better than me. 994 00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:59,210 - That's adorable, "I don't know how to change the font." 995 00:46:59,210 --> 00:47:01,160 How's he gonna get another job? 996 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,570 - Look at this. 997 00:47:02,570 --> 00:47:05,763 - I know, it's like fine wine. 998 00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:08,890 Fine wine in a box. 999 00:47:08,890 --> 00:47:11,140 - I'm gonna just keep cleaning out back here. 1000 00:47:13,653 --> 00:47:15,933 What am I going to do with that thing, come on. 1001 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,023 Mmm, indie! 1002 00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:22,300 There's gonna be some weird stuff in here. 1003 00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:27,300 Oh man, the flier from when we launched the website. 1004 00:47:29,465 --> 00:47:32,048 (electronic music) 1005 00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:37,300 - We launched the mail order website in 1998 1006 00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:41,143 and the store's newsletter has been going out since 2000. 1007 00:47:41,995 --> 00:47:44,800 - We had an email newsletter that reached a lot of people. 1008 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,840 Tens of thousands of people read it every week, 1009 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,917 where we reviewed music. 1010 00:47:47,917 --> 00:47:50,420 - I've been writing about music for 15 years 1011 00:47:50,420 --> 00:47:53,230 and I would obsessively, every week read the mailers 1012 00:47:53,230 --> 00:47:56,470 which are I think the best in the business. 1013 00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:58,520 - Those early days online, 1014 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,970 you didn't have Pitchforks and Stereogums 1015 00:48:01,970 --> 00:48:04,740 and all these online sources like you do now. 1016 00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:06,440 The Other Music Update at the time 1017 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,090 was one of the main sources 1018 00:48:08,090 --> 00:48:11,323 for hearing about this sort of music first. 1019 00:48:13,401 --> 00:48:14,234 - Are you writing down 1020 00:48:14,234 --> 00:48:15,310 the biggest sellers of all time? 1021 00:48:15,310 --> 00:48:16,530 - Top sellers ever. 1022 00:48:16,530 --> 00:48:17,833 That's what we're putting up. 1023 00:48:20,513 --> 00:48:23,711 - Is Jim Ford in there? - Jim Ford is not on there. 1024 00:48:23,711 --> 00:48:26,673 It's only 100 obviously, so it's pretty limited. 1025 00:48:36,410 --> 00:48:39,933 - I'm surprised at how low "Ambient Works 2" is. 1026 00:48:40,787 --> 00:48:43,130 The big Other Music artists 1027 00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:46,719 are Belle and Sebastian, Boards of Canada. 1028 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,111 - Stereolab, Broadcast. 1029 00:48:49,111 --> 00:48:53,611 - Everything on that list is from like 2002 and south. 1030 00:48:54,699 --> 00:48:58,093 - Yeah, that was, I mean that was like, serious numbers. 1031 00:48:59,607 --> 00:49:02,097 The guy from Ninja Tune called here one time and said, 1032 00:49:02,097 --> 00:49:04,400 "You guys literally sold..." 1033 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,710 - More than half of the U.S. sales 1034 00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:08,506 or something were just in this store. 1035 00:49:08,506 --> 00:49:10,490 - At this one store. 1036 00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:13,120 - In the late '90s, early 2000's, 1037 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,090 I don't think that people really have an idea 1038 00:49:16,090 --> 00:49:21,090 of just how many records were sold out of this store. 1039 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,560 - Fridays, Saturdays, two registers going, 1040 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,100 two back-ups for each register and just hours of ringing. 1041 00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:29,970 Throwing CDs across the room at each other 1042 00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:33,370 because we couldn't even physically make it to each other. 1043 00:49:33,370 --> 00:49:34,830 - The whole time we were in business, 1044 00:49:34,830 --> 00:49:37,450 the year 2000 was our highest grossing year. 1045 00:49:37,450 --> 00:49:42,160 And 2001 was on course to be bigger than that. 1046 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,013 So we were coming into September and it was a Tuesday. 1047 00:49:51,090 --> 00:49:54,723 I remember a sea of people walking up Lafayette Street. 1048 00:49:58,052 --> 00:50:00,400 The store wasn't open, we were just there, 1049 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,650 and people wanted to use the phone. 1050 00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:07,553 There were some people who would splash water on their face. 1051 00:50:08,550 --> 00:50:10,857 I remember a dude coming in and going, 1052 00:50:10,857 --> 00:50:13,070 "Do you have the new Dylan?" 1053 00:50:13,070 --> 00:50:18,070 And I was like, "Do you see what's going on all around you?" 1054 00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:29,480 - We saw the top of the south tower crack off 1055 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,083 and fall from my building and then we ran upstairs. 1056 00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:38,530 So we turned on the Disintegration Loops really loud, 1057 00:50:38,530 --> 00:50:39,410 just went up on the roof 1058 00:50:39,410 --> 00:50:43,923 and sat there looking at this new landscape. 1059 00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:50,740 - William came in with Disintegration Loops, 1060 00:50:50,740 --> 00:50:55,740 a CD made as a response to 9/11 and it utterly blew my mind. 1061 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,890 Basically it's a tape loop that, 1062 00:51:00,890 --> 00:51:04,300 as it winds its way through the tape player it, 1063 00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:07,220 the magnetic tape would flake off. 1064 00:51:07,220 --> 00:51:11,090 So as it goes along it's always subtly changing 1065 00:51:11,090 --> 00:51:12,543 with every turn of the reel. 1066 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,767 - Each melody just fell away in its own time in its own way, 1067 00:51:20,090 --> 00:51:23,000 and somehow managed to retain the very core 1068 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,430 of what made it special. 1069 00:51:26,430 --> 00:51:29,150 And then the fact that I had managed to record the life 1070 00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:30,600 and death of these melodies, to me, 1071 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,083 was an incredibly profound thing. 1072 00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:37,040 - I wrote a pretty heartfelt review of it, 1073 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,863 and I pushed it on tons of people. 1074 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,410 - Nobody knew who I was, 1075 00:51:45,410 --> 00:51:50,277 so when it first came out it was just a little slim sleeve. 1076 00:51:51,370 --> 00:51:54,010 - People had to talk about it once they heard it. 1077 00:51:54,010 --> 00:51:57,060 That just connected with a broad cross-section of the staff 1078 00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:58,580 and then the customers. 1079 00:51:58,580 --> 00:52:00,740 We sold hundreds of them. 1080 00:52:00,740 --> 00:52:03,093 We could just keep selling those CD-Rs all day. 1081 00:52:04,890 --> 00:52:07,957 - Everyone was thinking about "What do I do?" 1082 00:52:09,470 --> 00:52:13,617 I was like, "You're an artist, make your work. 1083 00:52:13,617 --> 00:52:15,200 "This is important." 1084 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,520 - You just felt it kick into high gear 1085 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,353 because everyone was kind of like, 1086 00:52:17,353 --> 00:52:20,866 "Fuck it, what else am I doing?" 1087 00:52:20,866 --> 00:52:23,815 ♪ You know they're gonna want some, want some ♪ 1088 00:52:23,815 --> 00:52:27,716 ♪ I'm high in the back room gonna have a pack soon ♪ 1089 00:52:27,716 --> 00:52:29,295 ♪ With this song you will regret ♪ 1090 00:52:29,295 --> 00:52:33,250 ♪ Just let it be a yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 1091 00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:36,480 - It was definitely the case that post-9/11, 1092 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,480 especially immediately post-9/11, it was really debauched. 1093 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,413 - No one was thinking about their future, 1094 00:52:45,340 --> 00:52:48,523 and that makes for a very interesting scene. 1095 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,386 - If you were young and your city had just been attacked, 1096 00:52:57,386 --> 00:52:58,680 you're not an adult. 1097 00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,767 It was sort of just like, "You know what, 1098 00:52:59,767 --> 00:53:03,997 "I think I need to get drunk, and high, 1099 00:53:03,997 --> 00:53:06,163 "and whatever else I can do." 1100 00:53:06,163 --> 00:53:11,086 ♪ Fucking for fear of not wanting to fear again ♪ 1101 00:53:11,086 --> 00:53:14,247 ♪ Lonely is all we are lovely ♪ 1102 00:53:14,247 --> 00:53:17,230 - The Lower East Side scene was weirdly fetishized 1103 00:53:17,230 --> 00:53:19,650 because of the 9/11 events, 1104 00:53:19,650 --> 00:53:23,233 and a very hot spotlight happened on a lot of bands. 1105 00:53:25,767 --> 00:53:28,180 - The '90s were really dead for rock and roll 1106 00:53:28,180 --> 00:53:29,890 at least in New York City. 1107 00:53:29,890 --> 00:53:31,130 There was no industry attention 1108 00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:33,030 basically in terms of rock and roll. 1109 00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:35,940 But Other Music championed a lot of these bands 1110 00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:37,350 really early on. 1111 00:53:37,350 --> 00:53:38,730 - Local bands would come in all the time 1112 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:40,500 and drop off their record 1113 00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:42,980 with the hopes of us carrying it in the shop. 1114 00:53:42,980 --> 00:53:45,080 - We had this guy Gian Carlo 1115 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,290 who ran our consignment program. 1116 00:53:47,290 --> 00:53:49,950 He just loved music so much and was wanting to help them. 1117 00:53:49,950 --> 00:53:53,250 And giving them a spot on the shelf, you know, 1118 00:53:53,250 --> 00:53:56,460 a spot on the shelf, that was prime real estate. 1119 00:53:56,460 --> 00:53:58,910 - People kinda made up the early wave of that scene, 1120 00:53:58,910 --> 00:54:01,820 like Strokes, and Liars, and Black Dice, 1121 00:54:01,820 --> 00:54:03,923 they all came in here and they sold their CDs. 1122 00:54:03,923 --> 00:54:06,830 They'd burn the CD-Rs themselves. 1123 00:54:06,830 --> 00:54:08,120 - Interpol would make demos 1124 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,040 and I remember going down to Other Music 1125 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,210 and speaking to those guys about whether they'd be open 1126 00:54:13,210 --> 00:54:14,610 about selling it on consignment. 1127 00:54:14,610 --> 00:54:15,907 And they were cool about it. 1128 00:54:15,907 --> 00:54:20,330 ♪ I wish I could eat the salt off of your lost ♪ 1129 00:54:20,330 --> 00:54:21,430 - We'd spent so many years 1130 00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:23,673 of no one really caring about us at all. 1131 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,620 It was one of those early things within the band's life 1132 00:54:29,620 --> 00:54:31,761 that really meant a lot to me personally. 1133 00:54:31,761 --> 00:54:36,100 ♪ I saw my love with pretty boy ♪ 1134 00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:37,890 - The first show at Mercury Lounge 1135 00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:40,810 and the first time we got a card in Other Music 1136 00:54:40,810 --> 00:54:44,534 we were like, "My band is real, my band's a real thing now." 1137 00:54:44,534 --> 00:54:45,367 - Aw! 1138 00:54:47,090 --> 00:54:48,460 My card. 1139 00:54:48,460 --> 00:54:50,513 - Okay, ready? - Ready. 1140 00:55:11,710 --> 00:55:14,930 - Two of the members of Animal Collective, Dave and Noah, 1141 00:55:14,930 --> 00:55:18,893 both worked at Other Music in mail order and shipping. 1142 00:55:19,810 --> 00:55:23,320 - I started working at Other in 1998. 1143 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,050 I actually worked on the floor there for a short while 1144 00:55:27,050 --> 00:55:29,020 but because my social skills were terrible 1145 00:55:29,020 --> 00:55:33,052 I was quickly taken back up to the mail order department. 1146 00:55:33,052 --> 00:55:34,540 When I started working there, 1147 00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:37,823 we weren't really doing Animal Collective stuff. 1148 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,160 - I had moved to New York in the summer of 2000 1149 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,947 and Dave said, "Well my friend is here 1150 00:55:43,947 --> 00:55:45,650 "and he's looking for work." 1151 00:55:45,650 --> 00:55:47,040 - We've been playing together since high school 1152 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,720 in various combinations. 1153 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,910 And when Noah moved to New York, 1154 00:55:50,910 --> 00:55:53,760 that was when we decided, let's actually try and do this. 1155 00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:01,730 - A lot of times after work 1156 00:56:01,730 --> 00:56:04,670 they'd be playing a show and we'd all go to watch them. 1157 00:56:04,670 --> 00:56:07,160 - It definitely started really small, 1158 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,600 playing it in the shop, and they started slowly selling 1159 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,210 mostly just on recommendations. 1160 00:56:13,210 --> 00:56:16,480 - They were definitely more underground and avant, 1161 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,710 for lack of better words. 1162 00:56:17,710 --> 00:56:21,313 It felt like a sinister Fraggle Rock on acid or something. 1163 00:56:23,627 --> 00:56:25,500 - "Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished," 1164 00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:28,164 they were the only outlet for us 1165 00:56:28,164 --> 00:56:30,723 to sell the record at the time. 1166 00:56:30,723 --> 00:56:32,590 I think we sent it around to a bunch 1167 00:56:32,590 --> 00:56:34,820 of labels and nobody wanted it. 1168 00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:36,377 - One of them, I don't remember who said, 1169 00:56:36,377 --> 00:56:38,220 "This really hurts our dog's ears." 1170 00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:40,370 Or, "Our cat freaks out when we put it on." 1171 00:56:43,167 --> 00:56:44,690 - I remember Other being the first place 1172 00:56:44,690 --> 00:56:46,497 that gave it a review and put it up 1173 00:56:46,497 --> 00:56:48,810 and gave us our first name card. 1174 00:56:48,810 --> 00:56:50,690 Just being like, "Yes, we made it, finally." 1175 00:56:50,690 --> 00:56:52,970 That's all I ever wanted at the time, you know? 1176 00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:55,010 - I mean, Dave got fired. 1177 00:56:55,010 --> 00:56:56,950 Maybe that made things a little awkward. 1178 00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:58,880 - His head wasn't in the game, at some point. 1179 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,733 - He was not a great mail order supervisor. 1180 00:57:08,179 --> 00:57:11,569 ♪ Sweet summer night and I'm stripped to my sheets ♪ 1181 00:57:11,569 --> 00:57:14,715 ♪ Forehead is leaking, my AC squeaks ♪ 1182 00:57:14,715 --> 00:57:16,203 ♪ And a voice from the clock ♪ 1183 00:57:16,203 --> 00:57:18,347 ♪ Says you're not gonna get tired ♪ 1184 00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:21,983 ♪ My bed is a pool and the walls are on fire ♪ 1185 00:57:21,983 --> 00:57:25,313 ♪ Soak my head in the sink for a while ♪ 1186 00:57:25,313 --> 00:57:28,710 ♪ Chills on my neck and it makes me smile ♪ 1187 00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:32,610 - This is where we shopped since we were teenagers. 1188 00:57:32,610 --> 00:57:34,160 - I think also in a way it's like, 1189 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,220 knowing that all these folks who worked at the shop, 1190 00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:38,970 if we could excite these people, 1191 00:57:38,970 --> 00:57:41,833 that felt like kind of an accomplishment. 1192 00:57:44,202 --> 00:57:47,778 I think I can safely say I'm not sure we'd be doing this 1193 00:57:47,778 --> 00:57:50,400 still today if it wasn't for the shop. 1194 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,550 - Yeah, definitely not. 1195 00:57:54,052 --> 00:57:55,556 (audience cheering) 1196 00:57:55,556 --> 00:57:56,653 - Thanks so much for being here, 1197 00:57:56,653 --> 00:57:58,403 thanks for having us. 1198 00:58:06,053 --> 00:58:08,940 - You know what's funny, I wrote a poem a few years ago 1199 00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:10,940 about how I used to love going into record stores 1200 00:58:10,940 --> 00:58:14,210 and hiding whatever I wanted to buy later on. 1201 00:58:14,210 --> 00:58:17,210 So if I found something I loved, 1202 00:58:17,210 --> 00:58:19,548 you would put it in the back where nobody would find it 1203 00:58:19,548 --> 00:58:21,440 until you had enough money to buy it yourself. 1204 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,570 - Right. - Yeah. 1205 00:58:23,570 --> 00:58:24,403 - I can relate. 1206 00:58:24,403 --> 00:58:25,921 - I was just thinking of that recently. 1207 00:58:25,921 --> 00:58:27,838 Take it easy. - Thanks. 1208 00:58:32,164 --> 00:58:33,497 - Daddy. - Yeah? 1209 00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:36,702 - I wanna get the "Hamilton" soundtrack. 1210 00:58:36,702 --> 00:58:37,547 - The "Hamilton" soundtrack? 1211 00:58:37,547 --> 00:58:39,400 The vinyl is really pricey, 1212 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,027 we have to take a look at it. 1213 00:58:41,027 --> 00:58:44,964 $90, holy smokes, that's a lot of money, iPod? 1214 00:58:44,964 --> 00:58:47,680 - We can always listen to it. 1215 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,303 - Yeah it'll be on Spotify too anyway, we can stream it. 1216 00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:55,170 Are we part of the problem or part of the solution? 1217 00:58:55,170 --> 00:58:56,430 That's what I wanna know. - Solution! 1218 00:58:56,430 --> 00:58:57,630 - Are we? 1219 00:58:57,630 --> 00:58:58,690 Yeah, we wanna buy it on vinyl, 1220 00:58:58,690 --> 00:59:00,450 so I guess we're part of the solution. 1221 00:59:00,450 --> 00:59:04,230 - There's a whole generation of people now 1222 00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:07,964 who didn't grow up with the concept of paying for music. 1223 00:59:07,964 --> 00:59:09,270 - I don't wanna say post-9/11, 1224 00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:12,200 but, you know, the early 2000s, 2002, 2003, 1225 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,760 things were starting to turn a little bit. 1226 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,800 Record stores were growing mindful of the fact 1227 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,880 that their customer base was changing. 1228 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,210 - The internet was definitely happening. 1229 00:59:20,210 --> 00:59:21,880 But it was more of like, 1230 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,280 the nerds that would come into the store 1231 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,760 would start their conversation in these chatrooms online 1232 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,649 about obscure crazy weird music. 1233 00:59:31,649 --> 00:59:33,464 And then they would come into the store 1234 00:59:33,464 --> 00:59:36,930 and they would buy the records and talk to us about it. 1235 00:59:36,930 --> 00:59:40,760 Then I guess that kind of symbiotic relationship 1236 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,110 started to go the other way, 1237 00:59:43,110 --> 00:59:45,520 and the conversation online kept going 1238 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,223 and stopped happening in real life. 1239 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,140 - On Thursday, Tower Records will sell off its assets 1240 00:59:59,140 --> 01:00:01,170 in a court supervised auction. 1241 01:00:01,170 --> 01:00:02,680 The money will go to pay creditors 1242 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,250 of the twice-bankrupt company. 1243 01:00:05,250 --> 01:00:08,730 As NPR's Laura Sydell reports, Tower's troubles are signs 1244 01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:11,970 of larger changes in the music industry. 1245 01:00:11,970 --> 01:00:13,930 - The big stores, the big music stores, 1246 01:00:13,930 --> 01:00:16,690 like Virgin and Tower and Sam Goody and those stores, 1247 01:00:16,690 --> 01:00:20,150 were having a hell of a time competing with, 1248 01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:23,810 at the time, Circuit City and Best Buy. 1249 01:00:23,810 --> 01:00:27,720 They were fighting it all out for the hits, 1250 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,490 low-balling stuff. 1251 01:00:29,490 --> 01:00:34,440 We would go to Best Buy and buy stuff cheaper 1252 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,060 than we could buy it from our distributor. 1253 01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:39,490 That just destroyed the bigger part of the industry, 1254 01:00:39,490 --> 01:00:40,823 that low-ball stuff. 1255 01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:49,530 - When they closed, I think it was a loss for us. 1256 01:00:49,530 --> 01:00:51,760 Both a loss of foot traffic, 1257 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,660 but also just kind of a change in that downtown corridor. 1258 01:00:55,660 --> 01:00:57,530 The East Village going from the hub 1259 01:00:57,530 --> 01:00:59,470 of the New York underground music scene 1260 01:00:59,470 --> 01:01:02,190 to really being completely disconnected from it. 1261 01:01:02,190 --> 01:01:05,763 It's not a neighborhood built on arts culture anymore. 1262 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,000 - I'm just waiting for someone 1263 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,733 to go on that rant about like, 1264 01:01:13,607 --> 01:01:17,110 "New York is killing everything," you know? 1265 01:01:17,110 --> 01:01:19,710 - Blink Fitness is now across the street. 1266 01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:22,350 Yeah the whole second floor of Tower Records 1267 01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:24,750 is now Blink Fitness. 1268 01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:27,150 What is going to be in this neighborhood 1269 01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:29,470 without Other Music to anchor it? 1270 01:01:29,470 --> 01:01:31,600 So Broadway is shoe stores? 1271 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:32,433 That's it? 1272 01:01:32,433 --> 01:01:34,880 Is New York going to be only a place 1273 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,407 where you go to buy clothing? - It used to be you come here 1274 01:01:37,407 --> 01:01:39,370 and you find something out of the ordinary, 1275 01:01:39,370 --> 01:01:41,370 something you don't find when you live in Brooklyn 1276 01:01:41,370 --> 01:01:42,930 or in Queens or whatever. 1277 01:01:42,930 --> 01:01:44,890 Now there's nothing but Starbucks 1278 01:01:44,890 --> 01:01:48,130 and tofu yogurt places, and all of that. 1279 01:01:48,130 --> 01:01:49,840 It's ridiculous. 1280 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,290 - Best of 2000, Other Music, best record store. 1281 01:01:54,290 --> 01:01:55,123 We're number one, 1282 01:01:55,123 --> 01:01:58,310 above the Virgin Megastore-Times Square, closed. 1283 01:01:58,310 --> 01:02:00,900 The Virgin Megastore-Union Square, closed. 1284 01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:02,730 HMV, closed. 1285 01:02:02,730 --> 01:02:04,670 J&R Music World, closed. 1286 01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:06,948 Bleecker Street Records is actually open. 1287 01:02:06,948 --> 01:02:09,531 (indie rock music) 1288 01:02:11,810 --> 01:02:13,720 We opened up our download store a few years 1289 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,610 after iTunes opened their store. 1290 01:02:15,610 --> 01:02:17,660 People were buying fewer CDs 1291 01:02:17,660 --> 01:02:19,710 and we were trying to stay current, 1292 01:02:19,710 --> 01:02:21,670 to see where music was going. 1293 01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:23,300 - The first time that Vampire Weekend's music 1294 01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:26,160 was ever officially available to buy digitally 1295 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,270 was in the Other Music online store, 1296 01:02:28,270 --> 01:02:30,769 and that was before we'd signed a deal. 1297 01:02:30,769 --> 01:02:33,136 ♪ Johanna drove slowly into the city ♪ 1298 01:02:33,136 --> 01:02:35,715 ♪ The Hudson river all filled with snow ♪ 1299 01:02:35,715 --> 01:02:38,649 ♪ She spied the ring on his honor's finger ♪ 1300 01:02:38,649 --> 01:02:40,959 ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪ 1301 01:02:40,959 --> 01:02:43,857 We had all sorts of people coming to us saying like, 1302 01:02:43,857 --> 01:02:45,247 "Hey kids people are gonna try 1303 01:02:45,247 --> 01:02:48,290 "to get you to sign a record deal, don't be a moron." 1304 01:02:48,290 --> 01:02:51,220 But Other Music, that actually was the one deal 1305 01:02:51,220 --> 01:02:53,780 that made sense to us 'cause they were forward-thinking 1306 01:02:53,780 --> 01:02:57,860 in launching an independent digital distribution platform. 1307 01:02:57,860 --> 01:02:59,870 - This is something that we had all the time, 1308 01:02:59,870 --> 01:03:01,300 customers coming in and if you didn't have 1309 01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:02,417 what they wanted you'd say, 1310 01:03:02,417 --> 01:03:05,010 "I think Tower should have that across the street." 1311 01:03:05,010 --> 01:03:06,937 People would go, "I don't wanna shop 1312 01:03:06,937 --> 01:03:09,567 "at a big mass market retailer like that. 1313 01:03:09,567 --> 01:03:10,400 "The reason I'm here 1314 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,400 "is 'cause I love shopping at independent stores." 1315 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,340 But iTunes, you know, 1316 01:03:15,340 --> 01:03:18,380 Apple still maintains this kind of cool factor. 1317 01:03:18,380 --> 01:03:22,070 So we never found that most people 1318 01:03:22,070 --> 01:03:26,980 cared about shopping online at a cool, curated indie store. 1319 01:03:26,980 --> 01:03:29,180 - So we announced that we were gonna be shutting down 1320 01:03:29,180 --> 01:03:31,810 the download store 'cause LP sales were picking up. 1321 01:03:31,810 --> 01:03:33,390 We wanted to get back into focus 1322 01:03:33,390 --> 01:03:36,360 on the more physical formats. 1323 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,177 And I got an email from Lou Reed's manager, 1324 01:03:39,177 --> 01:03:40,557 "Lou Reed is despondent. 1325 01:03:40,557 --> 01:03:42,157 "He is so depressed 1326 01:03:42,157 --> 01:03:43,807 "and he wants to know where he's going 1327 01:03:43,807 --> 01:03:45,897 "to be able to download music from now." 1328 01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:54,250 - One of the reasons that the Other Music digital store 1329 01:03:54,250 --> 01:03:58,450 didn't flourish was because people who shop at that store 1330 01:03:58,450 --> 01:04:01,280 are so dedicated to the idea of physical media, 1331 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,760 whether it's a cassette or a CD or a record. 1332 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,393 I mean, I never used it. 1333 01:04:12,229 --> 01:04:14,103 - This is back, cool! 1334 01:04:15,450 --> 01:04:17,800 For me, music has always been very physical. 1335 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,790 I'm really into cassettes and going out to shows. 1336 01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:25,790 And I'm very involved in that DIY scene of exchanging, 1337 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:27,660 and sharing and being present. 1338 01:04:28,550 --> 01:04:29,530 - What's been really cool actually, 1339 01:04:29,530 --> 01:04:32,900 since the birth of streaming and MP3s and all that, 1340 01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:34,780 is the rise of vinyl. 1341 01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:38,310 And watching younger people now build their collections 1342 01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:41,020 and come in and be like, "I just got a vinyl player." 1343 01:04:41,020 --> 01:04:42,407 As they say, vinyl player. 1344 01:04:42,407 --> 01:04:44,050 "I want some records." 1345 01:04:44,050 --> 01:04:47,010 - The quality stuff, you want it archived. 1346 01:04:47,010 --> 01:04:50,590 The quality stuff, you want to make a special spot for it. 1347 01:04:50,590 --> 01:04:53,321 - I'm such an analog human being. 1348 01:04:53,321 --> 01:04:56,840 I can't read a book on a Kindle. 1349 01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,480 I like touching records and flipping them over 1350 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,800 and looking at every little thing. 1351 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,540 - It is a fundamentally different experience 1352 01:05:04,540 --> 01:05:06,720 than lying back with your laptop on your bed 1353 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,170 and just clicking around. 1354 01:05:08,170 --> 01:05:09,290 I think there's something important 1355 01:05:09,290 --> 01:05:12,417 about the physical nature of it. 1356 01:05:12,417 --> 01:05:13,259 - Almost done. 1357 01:05:13,259 --> 01:05:14,092 - Yeah. 1358 01:05:21,345 --> 01:05:23,178 Your total is $964.26. 1359 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,420 - Vinyl has been growing, 1360 01:05:25,420 --> 01:05:27,190 and it's been growing dramatically in the industry 1361 01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:28,980 and it was growing for us. 1362 01:05:28,980 --> 01:05:33,980 But it never came close to replacing the loss of CD sales. 1363 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,630 - CDs were great because they don't cost very much to make, 1364 01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:40,340 they don't cost very much to ship, 1365 01:05:40,340 --> 01:05:42,670 they can be made very quickly. 1366 01:05:42,670 --> 01:05:45,830 And all those things are not true about vinyl. 1367 01:05:45,830 --> 01:05:46,663 - The record business 1368 01:05:46,663 --> 01:05:48,150 is always a really tough business. 1369 01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:49,180 It's a volume business. 1370 01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:50,510 You have to sell a lot of records. 1371 01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:51,860 You're making just a couple bucks 1372 01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:52,910 most things you're selling, 1373 01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:54,870 so you need to sell a lot every day. 1374 01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:58,110 Even if you're not paying $15,000 a month rent. 1375 01:05:58,110 --> 01:06:01,120 - It's been pretty rough. 1376 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:05,354 You have years where you do better or worse. 1377 01:06:05,354 --> 01:06:08,650 So, you pay your employees and you take what's left over. 1378 01:06:08,650 --> 01:06:12,856 In 2003, they didn't make any money. 1379 01:06:12,856 --> 01:06:15,570 And since then, they have not made a wage 1380 01:06:15,570 --> 01:06:18,040 that they could live on without spouses 1381 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,760 who kept them afloat for a long time I think. 1382 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,740 - We live week to week. 1383 01:06:25,740 --> 01:06:28,690 The deposits that we make every day help us buy more records 1384 01:06:28,690 --> 01:06:31,943 to keep going and it's just been tough. 1385 01:06:31,943 --> 01:06:34,443 (acoustic folk music) 1386 01:06:50,523 --> 01:06:54,049 ♪ Just another diamond day ♪ 1387 01:06:54,049 --> 01:06:57,098 ♪ Just a blade of grass ♪ 1388 01:06:57,098 --> 01:07:00,209 ♪ Just another bale of hay ♪ 1389 01:07:00,209 --> 01:07:03,349 ♪ And the horses pass ♪ 1390 01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:08,349 ♪ La la la la la la la la la la la la la la ♪ 1391 01:07:09,281 --> 01:07:14,281 ♪ La la la la la la la la la la ♪ 1392 01:07:16,024 --> 01:07:16,982 ♪ Just another ♪ 1393 01:07:16,982 --> 01:07:19,470 - I think he sees the store as like 1394 01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:24,120 he feels like he has responsibility to the customers. 1395 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:29,120 And then I think his other main hold back was the employees. 1396 01:07:29,660 --> 01:07:32,260 I think he just felt like, "What are they gonna do?" 1397 01:07:33,668 --> 01:07:37,030 And I'm like, "Chris, it's great to think about that, 1398 01:07:38,627 --> 01:07:40,337 "but what are you gonna do?" 1399 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,063 'Cause he's always at the back of the list. 1400 01:07:45,063 --> 01:07:47,890 ♪ Just a word to say ♪ 1401 01:07:47,890 --> 01:07:51,160 ♪ Just another love to give ♪ 1402 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,407 ♪ And a diamond day ♪ 1403 01:07:54,407 --> 01:07:59,407 ♪ La la la la la la la la la la la la la la ♪ 1404 01:08:00,685 --> 01:08:05,685 ♪ La la la la la la la la la la ♪ 1405 01:08:07,101 --> 01:08:11,101 ♪ La la la la la la la la la la ♪ 1406 01:08:19,112 --> 01:08:20,362 - XL, XL, papa. 1407 01:08:22,180 --> 01:08:24,140 - XL it is. 1408 01:08:24,140 --> 01:08:25,940 Kind of our number one customer 1409 01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:28,780 broke down in tears yesterday. 1410 01:08:28,780 --> 01:08:30,170 Rockstar Rob. - Really? 1411 01:08:30,170 --> 01:08:32,382 - Rob came in yesterday and he was fully crying. 1412 01:08:32,382 --> 01:08:33,215 - Aw. 1413 01:08:33,215 --> 01:08:35,530 - I like that you guys have nicknames for everyone, 1414 01:08:35,530 --> 01:08:37,410 like Thursday Michael. 1415 01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:39,034 - Rollerblading Mike. 1416 01:08:39,034 --> 01:08:41,193 - Rollerblading Mike? 1417 01:08:41,193 --> 01:08:42,714 ♪ Everything must go ♪ 1418 01:08:42,714 --> 01:08:44,308 ♪ You wanna get on some fly shit ♪ 1419 01:08:44,308 --> 01:08:46,482 ♪ Get on some butterfly to the fire shit ♪ 1420 01:08:46,482 --> 01:08:48,390 ♪ Everything must go ♪ 1421 01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:51,273 - It's crazy, it's hectic, it's nonstop. 1422 01:08:52,786 --> 01:08:54,520 - People are buying stuff so fast 1423 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,373 that we can't keep it on the shelves. 1424 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:58,550 - Look at the line. 1425 01:08:59,730 --> 01:09:01,740 Hey do you have any more Radiohead upstairs on CD? 1426 01:09:01,740 --> 01:09:03,920 - We close at eight, but we'll probably be here later. 1427 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,620 - Yeah, the store's open tomorrow. 1428 01:09:07,068 --> 01:09:09,818 ♪ Like it or not ♪ 1429 01:09:11,645 --> 01:09:12,645 - Thank you. 1430 01:09:13,644 --> 01:09:14,477 (dog barks) 1431 01:09:14,477 --> 01:09:17,054 - Oh Jesus, I'm so, so sorry. 1432 01:09:17,054 --> 01:09:19,430 - See, now you better pace yourself, pace yourself. 1433 01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:20,990 - We don't have any large left. 1434 01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:22,573 - I would recommend ordering from the website. 1435 01:09:22,573 --> 01:09:25,633 - Last night we were here until 2:30 in the morning. 1436 01:09:27,781 --> 01:09:28,614 - Should I be saying to people 1437 01:09:28,614 --> 01:09:30,510 have a nice night or have a nice life? 1438 01:09:31,607 --> 01:09:33,357 "Thanks so much, have a nice life." 1439 01:09:47,612 --> 01:09:48,700 Today's our last day. 1440 01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:51,376 We have a huge celebration happening on Tuesday. 1441 01:09:51,376 --> 01:09:54,575 - Are you sad because it's the last day? 1442 01:09:54,575 --> 01:09:55,928 - I am very sad. 1443 01:09:55,928 --> 01:09:58,893 - I have a job, you could clean up our house. 1444 01:10:00,220 --> 01:10:01,833 - We could use some help. 1445 01:10:01,833 --> 01:10:02,850 - I could clean your room. 1446 01:10:02,850 --> 01:10:07,840 - I've been on the verge of tears all day 1447 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,803 since I've been here, but they're kind of tears of joy. 1448 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:14,960 - I looked it up. - Awesome. 1449 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,430 - It looks like we got three copies. 1450 01:10:16,430 --> 01:10:19,691 - She's almost like a classically trained singer and pianist 1451 01:10:19,691 --> 01:10:23,370 who went into more of a dark rock kind of thing. 1452 01:10:23,370 --> 01:10:24,203 It's really beautiful. 1453 01:10:24,203 --> 01:10:27,110 If that sounds interesting, to you, I think you'll like it. 1454 01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:29,890 - You have, like, two live copies of Professor Longhair 1455 01:10:29,890 --> 01:10:31,660 in the Blues section. 1456 01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:33,173 - No one's picked those up yet. 1457 01:10:34,571 --> 01:10:35,609 Someone's gotta get those. 1458 01:10:35,609 --> 01:10:37,641 - But when did you get them in? Yesterday, today? 1459 01:10:37,641 --> 01:10:40,218 - We got them in yesterday. 1460 01:10:40,218 --> 01:10:42,513 Alright, it means a lot. 1461 01:10:43,737 --> 01:10:46,323 - I will come back to the empty space. 1462 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,300 - The world is changing quickly in a lot of ways, 1463 01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:52,560 and so much of it happens in the virtual world now. 1464 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,700 And for sure there are a lot of positives to that. 1465 01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:59,590 But the magic of human interaction 1466 01:10:59,590 --> 01:11:02,860 and the way it forces you to be in the moment 1467 01:11:02,860 --> 01:11:05,360 and have a real give-and-take dialogue 1468 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,100 is something that can only be experienced face-to-face. 1469 01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:12,320 - It's easier than ever to reach people, 1470 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,620 but at the same time you're constantly trying 1471 01:11:14,620 --> 01:11:17,890 to cut through a wave of noise 1472 01:11:17,890 --> 01:11:19,882 that's coming at people all the time. 1473 01:11:19,882 --> 01:11:21,037 - Hey man, how are you doing? 1474 01:11:21,037 --> 01:11:22,430 - Good. 1475 01:11:22,430 --> 01:11:24,300 - I really feel for musicians 1476 01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:27,013 trying to get started nowadays. 1477 01:11:27,968 --> 01:11:30,420 It's so much easier to get lost in the crowd. 1478 01:11:30,420 --> 01:11:33,730 Whereas something about knowing that there are people 1479 01:11:33,730 --> 01:11:38,730 at a record store there to stand behind certain groups 1480 01:11:39,210 --> 01:11:41,230 and talk to people about them that they really like 1481 01:11:41,230 --> 01:11:43,670 and get people to get things, it's different. 1482 01:11:43,670 --> 01:11:44,900 And now it's also strange 1483 01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:48,330 because robots are telling you what you like. 1484 01:11:48,330 --> 01:11:51,160 - What makes it good? - Yeah it's good. 1485 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,320 It's good but the Leo Zero mix, he edited it a little bit. 1486 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,153 But it's cool. 1487 01:11:55,153 --> 01:11:58,900 I was supposed to be a lawyer, you know? 1488 01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:01,180 And if it wasn't for Other Music, 1489 01:12:01,180 --> 01:12:03,510 I would definitely be a lawyer. 1490 01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:08,510 A very bored, unsatisfied, angst-ridden lawyer. 1491 01:12:10,430 --> 01:12:13,320 - Who's the last person to buy a record in this place? 1492 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,153 Is it gonna be you? 1493 01:12:14,153 --> 01:12:15,979 Is it gonna be you? 1494 01:12:15,979 --> 01:12:18,396 (soft music) 1495 01:13:05,451 --> 01:13:08,118 (phone ringing) 1496 01:13:10,890 --> 01:13:13,196 Other Music, this is Josh. 1497 01:13:13,196 --> 01:13:17,143 We're closed and we're just cleaning out the store now. 1498 01:13:20,290 --> 01:13:22,083 Hey man, is your truck here? 1499 01:13:24,460 --> 01:13:26,530 We'll start here, and anything this way too. 1500 01:13:26,530 --> 01:13:27,413 All this stuff. 1501 01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:31,488 That's just a little bitty truck. 1502 01:13:31,488 --> 01:13:33,293 We've got a lot of shit to fit in there. 1503 01:13:41,330 --> 01:13:42,833 Oh yeah, big guns. 1504 01:13:49,230 --> 01:13:50,353 It's a lot harder to put it together 1505 01:13:50,353 --> 01:13:52,013 than it is to take it apart. 1506 01:14:21,703 --> 01:14:23,028 I think that one's loose, 1507 01:14:23,028 --> 01:14:25,945 you can do the same on all of them. 1508 01:14:26,869 --> 01:14:28,522 - Is the store moving? 1509 01:14:28,522 --> 01:14:32,300 - No, it closed Saturday. 1510 01:14:32,300 --> 01:14:33,250 This past Saturday. 1511 01:15:13,331 --> 01:15:15,800 - Is this how you inherited the floor? 1512 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,020 - No, we painted it on a couple of occasions. 1513 01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:22,600 And then over the years, you could see where people walked. 1514 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,930 We used to use the floor as a way 1515 01:15:24,930 --> 01:15:27,480 to see what sections were most popular. 1516 01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:29,070 The way the floor was worn out more 1517 01:15:29,070 --> 01:15:30,623 was where most people stood. 1518 01:15:32,119 --> 01:15:34,770 You can see the ghosts of the records up there. 1519 01:15:34,770 --> 01:15:37,243 The seven-inches. - Yeah. 1520 01:15:38,157 --> 01:15:39,824 - Oh my God. 1521 01:15:41,180 --> 01:15:42,013 Wow. 1522 01:16:02,969 --> 01:16:04,886 Thanks so much, Daniel. 1523 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,306 - It's been great, it's been great. 1524 01:16:09,306 --> 01:16:10,656 I'm gonna miss it for sure. 1525 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,110 - You're a huge part of this place 1526 01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:16,094 and made it what it was, you know? 1527 01:16:16,094 --> 01:16:16,927 - Say it again? 1528 01:16:16,927 --> 01:16:19,944 - You're a huge part of what this place became, what it was. 1529 01:16:19,944 --> 01:16:22,777 - Yeah, I felt that as well, yeah. 1530 01:16:23,907 --> 01:16:27,242 You know, you did a really wonderful thing for 20 years. 1531 01:16:27,242 --> 01:16:32,242 And I am honored to be a part of New York history. 1532 01:16:34,529 --> 01:16:37,310 (people cheering) 1533 01:16:37,310 --> 01:16:42,310 ♪ There were your eyes in the dark of the room ♪ 1534 01:16:44,546 --> 01:16:49,003 ♪ The only ones shining ♪ 1535 01:16:49,003 --> 01:16:53,170 ♪ The only set I had met in years ♪ 1536 01:16:54,210 --> 01:16:57,640 - More than ever people being together 1537 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,263 is very, very important. 1538 01:16:59,263 --> 01:17:02,880 (people cheering) 1539 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,880 For me, theaters, bookstores, and music stores, 1540 01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:12,923 record stores, were a type of temple. 1541 01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:16,360 And they would have a community. 1542 01:17:17,506 --> 01:17:22,506 ♪ Rising ♪ 1543 01:17:22,753 --> 01:17:25,586 ♪ Rising together ♪ 1544 01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:36,380 - We're swinging away from tangible places where we meet, 1545 01:17:36,580 --> 01:17:38,718 and we have things together. 1546 01:17:38,718 --> 01:17:42,258 ♪ What are you doing ♪ 1547 01:17:42,258 --> 01:17:44,470 ♪ What are you doing ♪ 1548 01:17:44,470 --> 01:17:47,020 - Maybe we'll swing not all the way back, 1549 01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:49,980 but maybe there's a way for the digital 1550 01:17:49,980 --> 01:17:52,400 and the streaming and the loving of music 1551 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,620 to swing back to a place 1552 01:17:53,620 --> 01:17:55,620 where we could still have these temples. 1553 01:17:56,770 --> 01:17:59,607 ♪ They just said don't go, don't go ♪ 1554 01:17:59,607 --> 01:18:03,524 ♪ Don't go, don't go, don't go ♪ 1555 01:18:05,477 --> 01:18:07,710 - I would like to introduce, 1556 01:18:07,710 --> 01:18:11,584 all the way from the tristate area, and the boroughs, 1557 01:18:11,584 --> 01:18:12,908 Yo La Tengo! 1558 01:18:12,908 --> 01:18:15,117 (audience cheering) 1559 01:18:15,117 --> 01:18:17,450 - Hey Josh, you around here? 1560 01:18:20,568 --> 01:18:23,151 (rhythmic rock music) 1561 01:18:32,129 --> 01:18:37,129 ♪ Sometimes the bad days may take their grip ♪ 1562 01:18:37,216 --> 01:18:40,985 ♪ Sometimes the good days fade ♪ 1563 01:18:40,985 --> 01:18:45,985 ♪ But the rain today hurts the head to drink ♪ 1564 01:18:46,610 --> 01:18:50,770 - Other Music was that place that knew what you wanted 1565 01:18:50,770 --> 01:18:52,370 before you knew what you wanted. 1566 01:18:53,690 --> 01:18:57,273 - Other Music was a champion of the underdog. 1567 01:18:58,740 --> 01:19:02,840 A lot of the artists who maybe didn't want to be rock stars, 1568 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,433 but they wanted to say something. 1569 01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:09,693 It was a place where the underdogs won. 1570 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,700 When they opened, I don't think that they even knew 1571 01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:18,700 how much people needed it or wanted it, but they did. 1572 01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:23,680 - You carry the spirit of it, I think, by being curious. 1573 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,150 No matter how much music they knew, 1574 01:19:25,150 --> 01:19:27,100 there was still more music to discover. 1575 01:19:28,060 --> 01:19:30,400 So I think it's everyone's job to, 1576 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,570 if you find something you love, to tell people about it. 1577 01:19:33,570 --> 01:19:36,363 - Hey everybody, we just want to say thank you. 1578 01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:40,500 Thank you for an amazing 20 years. 1579 01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:41,460 Look at Chris back there, 1580 01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:44,310 he's not even thinking about coming out here. 1581 01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:46,930 A place like Other Music is only about the community 1582 01:19:46,930 --> 01:19:51,770 and about the people who shopped there and about the family. 1583 01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:54,290 It's not about buying and selling, 1584 01:19:54,290 --> 01:19:59,290 it's about being a part of something and, oh Chris came out! 1585 01:19:59,382 --> 01:20:02,382 (audience cheering) 1586 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,420 That is an incredibly special moment, 1587 01:20:26,420 --> 01:20:28,930 when somebody finds a record, 1588 01:20:28,930 --> 01:20:30,823 a song that means something to them. 1589 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,760 It's very emotional. 1590 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,697 It's beyond just like, "That's a cool record." 1591 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:43,760 We were really trying to connect great art with great fans. 1592 01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:51,500 Helping people find great art, it's a tough living, 1593 01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:54,783 but it is a pretty satisfying life. 1594 01:20:56,318 --> 01:21:00,219 ♪ Resisting the flow ♪ 1595 01:21:00,219 --> 01:21:03,969 ♪ Resisting the flow ♪ 1596 01:21:07,853 --> 01:21:10,853 (audience cheering)