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Mr. Wallace who is presently serving 10
years for manslaughter in an English jail

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was known to have links
with British Intelligence.

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Wallace claimed he was
an Intelligence Officer.

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Wallace alleges he became involved in a black
propaganda campaign by the security services.

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There was no evidence to support
the claims of Mr. Colin Wallace.

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Until anybody can produce proper evidence
there is no need to have an inquiry.

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Colin Wallace had fractured Mr. Lewis’
skull with a karate style blow

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after he was accused of having
an affair with Mr. Lewis’ wife.

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He hid his friend’s body
in the boot of his car

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and later dumped
it in the river Arun.

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He says he was the victim of
an MI5 dirty tricks campaign.

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The Man Who Knew Too Much

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Northern Ireland 1969: Violence erupts between
Protestants loyal to the British Crown and Catholics.

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Information Policy: An information warfare
department is established inside the

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British Army’s Northern Ireland headquarters at
Lisburn, comprising Army psychological warfare and

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the Information Research Department (IRD), a
clandestine department in the British Foreign Office.

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The IRD as a Foreign Office department
had to justify their position

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in Northern Ireland and they
justified it by emphasizing

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the international links of the IRA. By saying this is
to do with Ireland, this is to do with the Communists

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and oddly this is to do with the Vatican
City as well, playing up the Catholic angle.

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The IRD tended to work
through newspapers.

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They would draft articles
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distribute them through friendly
journalists to slip into foreign newspapers.

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They worked with
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where they would write
some book about communism

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and then it would be distributed or published
through a private commercial company.

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Hugh Mooney of the IRD was sent as
an adviser to Information Policy.

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Northern Ireland was the most
surveyed country in the world.

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Every citizen
probably had a file,

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every household was under surveillance.
Down to minute things, like,

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extra pint of milk,

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just bought a new TV where has
the money come from, like that.

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Colin Wallace, a 27-year-old press officer was
asked to assist the psychological warfare unit.

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Because I grew up in Northern Ireland, because I
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explain some of the significance in terms of
emblems, in terms of labels and so on so forth.

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I was really bringing
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the Irish dimension as it were, in terms
of history, emotion, symbols, sounds.

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Maurice Tugwell the head of the
Army’s psychological warfare school

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and a veteran of Britain’s colonial
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commanded the PsyOps unit.

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Maurice Tugwell believed that, <i>"all
information agencies in Northern Ireland</i>

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<i>should speak with one voice:"</i>

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any organization critical of
British policy was an IRA front.

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Information Policy, PsyOps was
a highly sensitive activity

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and it really needed some form of cover, that gave
its officers access to the public and the press.

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Information Policy was in the same building,
on the same corridor, as the press office.

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So, a visiting journalist going down
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would almost see the whole corridor
as part of army public relations.

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Where as a key part of that had no
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On the 9th of August 1971 the British government
approved the internment of dissidents without trial.

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Many of those imprisoned were not terrorists, but
civil rights activists and Irish nationalists.

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The perception at that stage
was a bad one globally.

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And of course,

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the IRA were very good from PsyOps point of
view, they used that to make Britain look bad.

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Reports of torture
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Where there were
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the Information Policy unit
planted with selected journalists

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the fact that the techniques
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in questioning detainees
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demanding than the techniques
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when we were teaching
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or deal with interrogation if
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Stories of torture and arbitrary imprisonment
without trial fanned feelings of historical injustice

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and with that the popularity
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The violence from
all sides escalated.

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In 1972, 479 people were
killed and almost 5000 injured.

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Each day the psychological
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the violence of
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Some activities would require a quick
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But sometimes there were
themes developing, that

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for example some type of terrorist
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and therefore we would have to
take a more strategic look at that.

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A theme was a broad issue that Information
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Major themes included community
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who were portrayed as
organized criminal groups

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that intimidated and
exploited local communities.

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Information Policy attempted to spread
uncertainty and conflict in target groups.

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The international perception of the
conflict was another major theme.

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Themes were used to color
events with a message

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that supported Information Policy’s
long term PsyOps campaigns.

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When journalists visited or
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they would be passed through to
Colin Wallace and his colleagues.

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We then from a PsyOps point
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position which we would take on this, feeding in
the various themes that we wanted to put across.

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Or in certain cases we had a number
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pro the role of the armed forces in Northern
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and explain the background
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The propaganda was deliberately
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to disorientate the IRA to unnerve
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from the community whose support they needed
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We discovered at one
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nitrobenzene to mix with fertilizer
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We discovered that nitrobenzene
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and therefore there
was a real danger

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that people mixing these explosives
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were likely to develop
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This was a
scientific fact. But

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exactly how much exposure
etcetera we had no idea.

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But because there were sufficient
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we circulated that
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And the good thing about it was lots
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agreed with the conclusion, that
nitrobenzene was a carcinogenic.

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Newspapers picked up the story and
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who was none other
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who claimed that <i>"symptoms of nitro
poisoning are difficult to spot.</i>

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<i>By the time they are visible it
is too late to treat the victim.</i>

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<i>Vomiting and a coma follow and later
the glands and liver break down."</i>

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The Guardian reported: <i>"Children
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<i>or people forced to store it by the
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On occasion bombs would
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and quite often the people
transporting the bomb would be killed.

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And where we got a bomb going off
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from the subsequent
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why it had gone
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we would quite often try to shift the
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In campaigns of a political nature army
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One of the themes the IRD used in its propaganda
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and the broader communist

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threat.

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And so one of their plans involved
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that Soviet submarines

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were dropping subversives, who had been
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IRD acquired at one stage some photographs
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of a Soviet submarine off
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A dossier was then built up by
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this submarine which then

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had moved off the coast of Donegal rather
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that this was

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clear evidence that the Soviets were directly
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So IRD set up a meeting with
the News of the World in London.

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We took across photographs,
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and material to
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This was given to the News of the
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It was a huge story and it got wide
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Hugh Mooney identified himself to the
journalist as a member of the Foreign Office.

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The Foreign Office was a cover
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and therefore he was listed as a
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and that is how they knew that
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We would try to manipulate the terrorist
organization simply by information.

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Just to delay and get them to lose
faith in what they were doing.

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But at the other end of the scale there
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again one would try to get

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for example a weapon to misfire or to
explode or something of that nature.

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On one occasion the IRA was struggling with
using heavier weapons such as bazookas.

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And it turned out that they were using
them with the safety cap still on.

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The IRD decided to conceal
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issue a dummy army order suggesting that
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The IRD hoped

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that this would result in explosions
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In Northern Ireland, a clandestine unit, the
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and injured and killed numerous
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Information Policy would
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that the weapons used were those
that the paramilitary groups carried.

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As a result, the press attributed the
attacks to the paramilitary groups.

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In one incident the
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that an undercover army unit
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at a bus stop in a drive by shooting
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The police wanted
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PsyOps dissuaded the police by threatening
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had been given to
the army by the police.

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Information Policy established
close relationships with journalists

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and their publications.

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The whole thing is about
knowing the target audience

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but also knowing the
journalists as well.

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Sometimes you know
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very good and it was almost
at a humorous level.

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And journalists might ring me up, say <i>"look
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and I would say:
<i>"but I didn't say that,"</i>

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and they said <i>"I know but
we knew you would say that."</i>

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And it was at that level,
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that quote was really way off mark,
I would be quite happy with that.

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99% of the work I was doing
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and then you also have
off-the-record information, which

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you know, journalists would
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report on. So literally that would
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without any reference
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Professional journalists are
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that if they didn't actually stick by what
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then probably we would not cooperate
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How important was it for
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The press quite often said that PsyOps
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using disinformation.

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But in the vast majority of cases we
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See, real intelligence is much
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when the terrorists check
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it has to be credible. They
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If they can show it is false, then
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and really does
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So most of the material that we
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was genuine intelligence,

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and had to be credible

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not just from a journalist point of view, but it had
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an article in the Belfast
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that sheep had been sacrificed
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on Copeland Island Beach
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It was a front-page headline in the
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The story was that sheep had been ritually
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and that it was Satanists
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As a would-be anthropologist,
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it tweaked my interests and I

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began to pay attention as other news
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The more I looked the more I found
and I began to be really surprised

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at the degree to which this had been a
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From August 1973,

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stories of witchcraft
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began to surface in many
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The first thing that I had to
do was try and understand

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what witchcraft
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We had no idea so I bought
a book on the subject.

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Then the whole idea

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of the sacrifice of animals or
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we got blood from the cook
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and we would
scatter that over the

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makeshift altars
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Some of that
material then we left

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and it would be discovered by
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they would talk about
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gradually the story built up and
build up over a period of months.

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This was a way of really

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getting the interest of the press,
getting rumors going around and therefore

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doing the things that we
really wanted to happen.

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The ritual sites were often located in
old graveyards and abandoned properties.

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You have to remember

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that this was a time in Northern Ireland when
all kinds of unusual things were happening.

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Assassinations were a very regular thing, some
of them were particularly bloody and brutal.

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Torture, mutilation, using knives
and blades and things like that.

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People were talking about ritual
murders and all kinds of things. So,

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all of a sudden all of
the moral certainties

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no longer seemed to be
quite just as certain.

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Information Policy sent fake
Readers’ Letters to the local press

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to help fan the rumours.

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Quite often on different subjects
we would write to local newspapers

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drawing attention to something
or criticizing something

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and then the newspaper
would publish that. It would

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usually be about a local issue and it
was very much done at that local Level.

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But then we would pick up the
publication of those letters and

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we would then circulate those
letters more to the national press,

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to reflect what would be
portrayed as local views.

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Don't forget that

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we were not just influencing the press. The
press is only one way of influencing the public.

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We had to be able to influence
all sorts of other people who were

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you know communicating
with the public.

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The churches then

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in the 70s had much more influence
of course than they have today

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and therefore this involvement of
witchcraft was quite important.

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The key thing we
wanted the Protestant,

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sorry we wanted the clergy
to do, I think was just

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to try and go back to reject
all types of violence

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and questionable behavior. And whether
that was drugs or witchcraft or terrorism,

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it was to say that these
activities really have no

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place in the society that
we were trying to create.

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And because

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at that stage people's world was
dominated by the fear of terrorism,

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we were directly linking a lot of these
things together. It was important to look at

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evil bad and terrorism
all within one package.

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They were particularly
interested in

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getting at the Protestant population and
getting them to believe in this stuff.

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They were trying to scare the
bejesus out of the local population

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and to attach that fright to the terrible
things that going on ergo the paramilitaries.

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That is I think what the core
job of what they were doing was.

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They were trying to discredit the paramilitaries.
They were trying to associate them with

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bad things, drug dealing, dodgy
financial dealings, etc. Etc.

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We were just saying, look, the

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fact that the community has now sort
of dissolved into this violence,

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which is becoming more and more sadistic
in terms of sectarian assassinations,

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you know, where do you
draw a halt as a community.

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I think it helped to bring
home to people, that

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there was something going on
in their community that really

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was not good for
them as a whole.

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That is a strange
way thinking,

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because you know you are part of the army
and the idea is that you are fighting a war.

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But you are saying the
witchcraft campaign was about

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bringing a sense of morality
back to the community,

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you wouldn't really have thought
that the army would think about that?

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Probably not but I think you see it is
a war but it is not a conventional war.

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Terrorism is fundamentally a propaganda
war that is backed up by armed conflict.

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So, it was just I think
going back to

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say to people <i>"you know you have grown up as I
did in Northern Ireland with a very strong belief</i>

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<i>in the community and in our own
church, whatever that religion was,</i>

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<i>and surely we have drifted
a long way from that</i>

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<i>as a result of the violence
of the last five six years."</i>

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On the 8th of September 1973

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the burnt and mutilated body
of 10-year-old Brian McDermott

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was discovered by the
river Lagan in Belfast.

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People began to speculate: "<i>was</i>
<i>this a black magic killing</i>" and

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it certainly contributed towards one
of the threads and the rumors and fears

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that autumn, which was that Satanists
were looking for children to abduct.

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Newspapers reported rumours that<i> "a boy
or girl under seven would be sacrificed."</i>

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The police actually issued

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a statement saying they believed that
the murder may have involved witchcraft,

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that was a concern for us at that stage because
bearing in mind that we were creating this concept.

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At that point we stopped using
witchcraft as a concept.

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But that was in September

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and according to Richard Jenkins
the witchcraft scare continued

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all the way to the
beginning of 1974?

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I think that's right, and one of the points
we were making is that when you create a story

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it gathers momentum over a period of time
and I think although we stop doing things,

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there were lots of other stories and rumors
going around. There may also have been people,

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you know, creating these
things for fun really.

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But we certainly stopped after Brian
McDermott’s death. There's no doubt of that.

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I’m absolutely clear. But it may well be
that the aftermath of that was still going on

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for a period of sometime, even to
the beginning of the following year.

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From early September
to December 1973,

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there were more than 70 articles
referring to black magic and witchcraft.

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By the beginning of the following year the topic
had almost completely vanished from the press.

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When the British Prime Minister Harold Wilson visited
Northern Ireland, he was briefed by Colin Wallace.

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Would the Prime Minister
have been aware

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that you were in fact in
military intelligence?

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Oh, I don't believe they would have been. I’m
sure he saw me simply as an army press officer.

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Did you yourself have a brief
for when you interacted with him?

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Yes, what happened was that there
were certain key things that we felt

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the Prime Minister should
know. So, the idea is that

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you don't want him to be wrong-footed
by not being able to answer

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the basic questions about
security in Northern Ireland.

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Influencing the press, the
clergy and key decision makers

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was one aspect of psychological warfare, another
was influencing persons of interest directly.

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Quite often we were trying to influence
people where we had no direct access to them.

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And so when you are trying to move
somebody or change somebody's thinking,

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sometimes you had to target them through one
or more sort of relays of other people. So,

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it is never straight
communication.

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A lot of information we were
disseminating was not through the media,

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it was also through people,

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and therefore it had to be cut out so
that the person handling it quite often

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didn't realize who
the originator was.

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And that made it all the more credible,
when that person who was known to the target

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was passing this
information on to him.

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Information Policy created profiles of persons
of interest and people in their social networks.

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The key thing was that

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when you knew a lot about a person
and the people they worked with,

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like any other
part of society,

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there were people who
didn't like each other,

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there were people who were
jealous of each other.

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Because we had the
relevant intelligence,

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if we could plant
it the right way,

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you could for example if one person was
suspicious of another for some reason,

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you could increase
that suspicion,

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by feeding information in that would tend to
reinforce their own views of that individual.

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So, it was that type of activity.

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Could you explain more about

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the kind of techniques you used
to create psychological conflict?

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I have to be careful
with that because

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what I don't want to do is actually share
techniques that are still having impact.

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And so there is
a Grey area there.

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But it is basically along the lines that
we are saying, first of all is to identify

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relationships, look at how toxic
those relationships may or may not be,

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and then try to maneuver them by planting
information in, to have that effect.

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You build up quite a
comprehensive profile

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of that person and
their associates.

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Now it may be that
some of those associates

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are totally innocent of any
involvement in terrorism whatsoever.

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They just happen to be good friends
from school days and so on and so forth.

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It is really
creating a picture

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of that person so
you almost know

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what their response will be to
something that you do.

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This is a very different
use of psychology

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and I think a lot of people wouldn't
be aware that this knowledge exists

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and that people study psychology
for these kinds of purposes?

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I think that's true, but you have to be
careful because we did do lots of things

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that had a positive
psychological effect.

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Like for example we ran youth
clubs, we ran community relations.

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I was the Army's Father Christmas going
around schools and hospitals at Christmas.

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We actually provided funds for
projects. We took kids away from

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the really bad areas
of Northern Ireland,

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from opposite
sides of the fence,

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Catholic and Protestant together, we
took them away to the mountains camping.

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Colin Wallace was refused clearance to
target high-ranking protestant paramilitaries

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in psychological operations.

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These individuals who at times colluded with
the British army were on an excluded list.

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A number of protestant clergy and politicians
on the other hand were legitimate targets.

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Psyops targeted individuals who were
not members of terrorist organizations,

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but who had influence in
communities of interest to PsyOps.

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In the Catholic community,

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personal conflicts were the most common
reason for a person to become an informant.

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We couldn't admit to what we were doing, the army
didn't admit to what we were doing and so on so forth.

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A senior figure political or
military might ask us to do something

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and then for political
reasons usually

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they would say it would be a
really good idea if X happened

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but then they would
quite often say <i>but</i>

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<i>I don't want you to tell me how you go</i>
<i>about it</i> because I may have to deny it,

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and that was a classic example so in other words the
person doesn't want to lie that they were involved.

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Senior figures were deliberately kept in
the dark about the specifics of campaigns,

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so that they could deny involvement should
they be called upon to answer questions.

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At the age of 29 Colin Wallace was the
youngest Senior Information Officer in the MOD.

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During his time in
Information Policy

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he was put forward for New Year’s
Honors 3 times by his superiors.

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In 1973, the IRD was withdrawn
from Northern Ireland.

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The IRD focused on framing conflicts both at
home and abroad as part of a clash of ideologies,

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between Communism
and the West.

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Army Intelligence saw the IRD as involved
in political propaganda of limited relevance

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to their anti-terror and
counter-insurgency campaign.

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The military feared that

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having the IRD in Northern Ireland
was undermining the credibility

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of their own PR campaigns

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and Lisburn and the army headquarters was
becoming known as the Lisburn lie machine.

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Not long after the departure
of Hugh Mooney and the IRD,

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a meeting was convened at Stormont
Castle, the HQ of MI5 in Northern Ireland.

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At this meeting a campaign code-named
Clockwork Orange was launched.

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Colin Wallace was asked to liaise with an
operative by the cover-name, John Shaw.

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He never came to army headquarters
at any time when I was there.

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All the meetings I had with him
were at the White Gables Hotel.

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I think the idea with that was
that there would be no direct link,

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particularly with some of the information
that we were using, between him and the army.

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Colin Wallace alleges John Shaw supplied
him with material that included smears

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on politicians from the three
main political parties in Britain.

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Why were you given that information,
considering the sensitivity of it?

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As I say, this was background,
because if we are looking

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for example at the
increase in violence,

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that has to be put in context,

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particularly if you are briefing
journalists in depth or foreign journalists.

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You have to explain at that stage
what led up to the violence.

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So, in other words, the violence
was really the activity,

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but the background was coming from
the briefing papers that I was given.

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Some of the forgeries that
Information Policy and MI5 and IRD

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concocted in Northern Ireland
came into my possession.

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To Merlyn Rees, who at one point was
the Minister for Northern Ireland.

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This is apparently from the American
Congress for Irish freedom, 1971.

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This was an IRA front in America. This is a letter
apparently thanking Merlyn Rees for his support,

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which of course Merlyn Rees didn’t
support it, but there you go.

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According to Stephen Dorril

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some of the smears Colin
Wallace received from John Shaw

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were already in
circulation in Britain.

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Britain had a very
sophisticated system

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whereby there were scores
of people around the country

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whose job it was just to
sit in bars, coffee bars,

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talk to people, go to clubs
and spread rumors

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and gradually kind of build up this
idea about someone or some operation.

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It was smears about sex,

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accusations that
Wilson had affairs.

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The British Prime Minister,
Harold Wilson,

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had been sexually compromised
on a trip to Moscow.

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There were accusations about,
which is again kind of

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interesting in retrospect, about him
being too close to Jewish people.

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So, there were kind
of anti-semitic smears.

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That Wilson was corrupt that
he had secret bank accounts …

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A few years ago the
son of a MI6 officer

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contacted me and said

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<i>"You've written about my
father, but did you know that</i>

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<i>when he retired in 1970 he went into the
City of London and he started a newsletter</i>

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<i>and spread rumors through this
newsletter and smears about Wilson."</i>

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Here's another fake - A Swiss
account supposedly held by

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Edward Short, who was the

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leader of the House of Commons at
the time I think, another Labour MP,

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a fake bank account showing
he had 30,000 pounds.

448
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:10,560
A journalist who trusts somebody
like Colin can easily be manipulated.

449
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,216
He would say to somebody: <i>"okay,
yeah, I think I know so-and-so,</i>

450
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:19,256
<i>talk to that person or I can supply
you with this bit of information</i>

451
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,376
<i>or I have this document
I will allow you to look at</i>

452
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,320
<i>which will back up what I am saying
or what this person has told you."</i>

453
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,640
It is a very sophisticated
kind of system.

454
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,920
This is thought out about what it is you
want to achieve with this particular story.

455
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,760
This might be part of a chain. It might
be part of an operation that is ongoing,

456
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,520
with the idea that you kind of
sway the argument or you

457
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,040
change the view of something,
smear somebody.

458
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,376
In October 1974 at a
meeting with John Shaw,

459
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Colin Wallace demanded proof of
political clearance for Clockwork Orange.

460
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,040
He never saw or heard
from John Shaw again.

461
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,977
Colin Wallace
turned his attention to

462
00:35:14,001 --> 00:35:17,720
undermining the Republican support
network in the US and Ireland.

463
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,800
He created a dossier that linked
fundraisers and businessmen

464
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,040
supportive of Republicans
to weapons smuggling.

465
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,520
Colin Wallace traced the serial numbers of weapons
captured in Belfast to arms dealers in the US.

466
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,320
He identified a leading
fundraiser and major benefactors.

467
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:39,680
The story was intended as an
exclusive for a major publication.

468
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,080
The Irish Joint Section
of MI5 and MI6

469
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:49,320
reported in a telegram that <i>"The
Managing Editor of the Daily Telegraph</i>

470
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,360
<i>was prepared to give the
article wide coverage…"</i>

471
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,560
Colin Wallace was asked to
supply additional photographs.

472
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,320
Information Policy ran a photography department
that gathered images for intelligence purposes.

473
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,280
These images could be used as
supporting material in press briefings.

474
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,600
The Daily Telegraph published a special
investigation. Reporter Christopher Dobson, wrote:

475
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,376
<i>"I have spent the last two months investigating
the way in which the IRA gets its money.</i>

476
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,096
<i>I have traveled to the
United States and Ireland</i>

477
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,896
<i>in tracking back the serial numbers
of arms captured in Belfast,</i>

478
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,960
<i>and I have looked into the lives
of the paymasters of terror."</i>

479
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,256
The press helped Information Policy to
target individuals and organisations

480
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,120
to which PsyOps had no direct access
due to their geographic location.

481
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,360
The article provided no evidence of
the funding or smuggling of arms,

482
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:52,330
however the reader was left
with the distinct impression

483
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,440
that the individuals and organization
highlighted were responsible.

484
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:08,560
William McGrath was a prominent individual in
loyalist politics, the Church and the Orange Order,

485
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,640
and the head of an
organization called Tara.

486
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:17,376
I was asked to encourage the press to look
at what Tara and McGrath were all about.

487
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Tara was an organization

488
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:28,040
that was really designed to prepare
for a doomsday situation by loyalists.

489
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,400
If there was an IRA Campaign,

490
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:38,160
or in fact as McGrath said the Irish
Army might even invade the North.

491
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,840
Attending the meetings of Tara

492
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,536
there were members of
the Ulster Volunteer Force,

493
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,720
which was then a proscribed
loyalist paramilitary group.

494
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,020
There were also police
officers attending it.

495
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,760
In 1973 McGrath issued
a proclamation,

496
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,080
that was designed to make the
Roman Catholic Church illegal.

497
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,080
William McGrath was also
the housemaster of Kincora,

498
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,880
a home for boys from troubled
backgrounds between the ages of 11 to 18.

499
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Colin Wallace issued 3 separate briefings on
McGrath, the press did not follow up the story.

500
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,980
The Army was informed
by Special Branch that

501
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,616
if they moved against McGrath it would
be a great propaganda coup for the IRA

502
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,060
and significantly damage the political
structure in Northern Ireland.

503
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,760
In December 1974, Colin Wallace was summoned
to the Ministry of Defence in London.

504
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,520
Everything as far as I was
concerned, in terms of my job,

505
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:49,160
how I was regarded by annual performance
reports, all those things were perfect.

506
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,440
And so I was a bit surprised
to be told then by

507
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,920
the senior MOD official who saw me
that because my life was in danger

508
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,920
I had to be moved
out of the province.

509
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,280
A farewell party
was organized.

510
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,480
A prominent cartoonist recorded
Colin Wallace’s departure.

511
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,120
I moved to my new post and

512
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,680
a day after that a police officer
from Northern Ireland arrived

513
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,016
with a Special Branch officer

514
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,560
and said that they were
investigating the fact that

515
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,560
I had given a restricted
document to a journalist.

516
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,480
For the past six years
I had been supplying,

517
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,416
you know, as part of my job description,
highly sensitive information

518
00:39:36,740 --> 00:39:39,660
to journalists from different
countries around the world.

519
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:46,400
Unbeknown to Colin Wallace, MI5 had made an assessment
that he was disgruntled and a security risk.

520
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,720
The disciplinary hearing that followed concluded
that Colin Wallace should be dismissed.

521
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,800
But, that he could keep his
pension if he resigned voluntarily.

522
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,560
Peter Broderick, a colleague of Colin Wallace’s
in Army Public Relations, tried to support him

523
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,240
and was informed that Colin Wallace was
a member of a terrorist organization.

524
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,920
Peter Broderick was then transferred
out of the Ministry of Defence.

525
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,160
When my disciplinary hearing
was finished and I realized that

526
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,160
clearly it had been rigged,

527
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,576
I then engaged a solicitor purely for personal
protection to tell him what had happened to me.

528
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,760
He said that he was involved

529
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,136
in dirty tricks against
politicians in Northern Ireland

530
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:45,080
and he also said that this had now
started to move over onto the mainland.

531
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,080
That he was involved in
a dirty tricks campaign

532
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:52,840
against mainland politicians and in
particular he mentioned Harold Wilson.

533
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000
Colin Wallace moved
to South-East London

534
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,760
and began to speak out about
his work in Information Policy,

535
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,400
he lobbied MPs, supplied information to the
press and wrote to the former prime minister.

536
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,856
Harold Wilson already held suspicions that
MI5 had undermined him and his government

537
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,680
and had communicated
this to two journalists.

538
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,560
He thought they had mounted a campaign
of denigrating him personally,

539
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:27,560
of using official material that had been gathered
and then misused by leaking it to newspapers.

540
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,200
They released a book,
which was largely ignored.

541
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,096
In 1977 the IRD was
quietly closed down.

542
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,840
After an internal investigation into the
plot against the former prime minister.

543
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,456
I corresponded with Lord Hunt.

544
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,720
He was asked to carry out the investigation
into the alleged plot against Harold Wilson

545
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,960
and he spoke to a number of people
including the heads of MI5 and MI6.

546
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,520
He said that there was a plot,

547
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,960
that there were dissident elements
within both organizations.

548
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:13,080
He wrote that report which
went to the new Prime Minister

549
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:19,000
and a copy of it was supposed to have
been deposited in the Cabinet Office.

550
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,040
I asked the Cabinet Office where was the
copy and they said they could not find one.

551
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,220
Colin Wallace unaware of the demise of
the IRD began a new life in West Sussex.

552
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,800
In January 1980

553
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,440
the Irish Independent published an article on the
abuse of boys at the Belfast boys home Kincora.

554
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,576
The Housefathers William McGrath,
Joseph Mains and Raymond Semple

555
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,360
had been sexually abusing
the boys in their care.

556
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Politicians in Northern Ireland
demanded a full inquiry.

557
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,440
Did you see this man in Arundel between
6:15pm – 11:30pm on Tuesday 5th August 1980?

558
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,320
The body which was found
last Friday in the river

559
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,640
had head injuries.

560
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,320
This is a matter for the pathologist
who is making his examination,

561
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,780
to find out whether in fact the person died as a
result of drowning or as a result of the head injuries.

562
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,240
Colin Wallace had fractured Mr. Lewis’
skull with a karate style blow

563
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,656
during a meeting at his house after he was
accused of having an affair with Mr. Lewis’ wife.

564
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,440
He hid his friend’s body in the boot of his
car and later dumped it in the river Arun.

565
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,176
Colin Wallace was charged
with the murder.

566
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,920
The prosecution alleged he was infatuated
with Jane Lewis the deceased’s wife.

567
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:55,680
He was found guilty of manslaughter and
sentenced to ten years on the 20th of March 1981.

568
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,960
65-year-old William McGrath
seen here in the foreground.

569
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,160
He ran two bible study centres
in Belfast in the 50s and 60s.

570
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,360
McGrath was also a founding member of
the protestant paramilitary group Tara.

571
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,240
This man was one of
McGraths victims.

572
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,296
He would come up when you
were getting dressed and

573
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,960
then he would start
doing things you don’t like.

574
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,216
There was one time I was bleeding. I
told him to stop. It was unpleasant.

575
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,620
You couldn’t turn
to no-one you know.

576
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,005
One of the Army’s former press officers at
Thiepval Barracks in Lisburn, Colin Wallace,

577
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,680
is now a key figure in
the Kincora investigation.

578
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,240
Mr. Wallace who is presently serving 10
years for manslaughter in an English jail

579
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,120
was also known to have links
with British intelligence.

580
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,920
Kevin Dowling, exactly what did
Colin Wallace tell you in 1973?

581
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,136
He certainly said that
McGrath was a homosexual.

582
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,480
You must remember that the conversation
I had with him was in 1973.

583
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,976
I don’t remember the
conversation entirely clearly.

584
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,856
It has been suggested to me that McGrath
was in fact some kind of an army informer

585
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,976
and that the police felt
obliged to protect him in order

586
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,536
to bring to book
greater criminals than he.

587
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,180
Exactly what part did
British intelligence play

588
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:24,700
and were they aware that William
McGrath was employed at Kincora.

589
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:31,160
British Army files relating to the Kincora
Boys’ Home disappeared from army headquarters.

590
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:37,280
It was rumoured that William
McGrath was an MI5 informant.

591
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,336
McGrath, Mains and Semple, who
ran the Kincora Boys’ Home,

592
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,360
were sentenced
in December 1981.

593
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,640
All were released
in under 2 years.

594
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Meanwhile, Colin Wallace was still only
at the beginning of his 10-year sentence.

595
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,880
When I first got to know him,

596
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,320
he was in prison

597
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,720
and it was bizarre.

598
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,680
He was actually
protected in prison.

599
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,240
Other prisoners believed him.

600
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,280
He actually had
kind of bodyguards,

601
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,320
because they thought probably
correctly that he might be

602
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,080
killed, assassinated in prison.

603
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Clive Ponting was head of the legal
department at the Ministry of Defence in 1983

604
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,760
and remembers a meeting with MI5
where Colin Wallace was discussed.

605
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,297
There was never
any suspicion that

606
00:46:34,321 --> 00:46:38,280
Wallace was making these stories up and
that it was all totally unfounded and

607
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,200
very easy to rubbish.

608
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,736
It was very much a matter that the
story was being contained at the moment

609
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,480
because he was
in jail. But that

610
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,376
in a few years time, he would
be back out again and

611
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,500
could be expected to start
making the allegations again.

612
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,416
One evening in prison, Colin Wallace
read an article about Fred Holroyd,

613
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,640
a former Military Intelligence
Officer in Northern Ireland,

614
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,000
whose experience bore
some resemblance to his own.

615
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,000
Colin wrote a letter to
Fred asking for help.

616
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:09,600
When I got to the prison

617
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,680
I realized this
was the same man

618
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,520
that I met in the secret corridor, who
had an office in army headquarters.

619
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,760
The MOD repeatedly were refuting
that he was anything more

620
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,880
than a civilian clerk with a Walter Mitty
complex. And yet here he is with an office

621
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,320
in this secret corridor with the political
officer MI5, MI6, all of the people

622
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,160
who were running the
army were in that office.

623
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,456
I went on the same day that the murder
was committed, at the same time.

624
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,816
You know you have got every man and
his dog walking along that path.

625
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,656
You have fishermen overlooking at
about a hundred yards away on a bridge.

626
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,476
You have all sorts of courting
couples walking along and

627
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:51,896
the river boats going
up and down the river.

628
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,000
The thing was, you know, it's
Trafalgar Square on a Saturday.

629
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,160
The story that the police
had put out was a lie.

630
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,560
I also discovered a witness
who had seen the dead man

631
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,440
after he had allegedly been killed by Colin and
the police persuaded her not to give evidence.

632
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,960
He was sitting by the window
with the gentleman he was with.

633
00:48:13,220 --> 00:48:17,616
A man approximately in his 50s with thinning
grey hair combed back over the top of his head.

634
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200
And as far as I remember, I
think he was in a grey suite.

635
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:25,720
Whatever exchange came from Jonathan Lewis it was
sharp and back to fiddling with his glass on his knee.

636
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,600
He looked far from happy.

637
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,200
She was frightened of the police.
She thought the police were in on it.

638
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,760
Fred Holroyd door-stepped the
boatman who had found the body.

639
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,296
And he didn't know who I was. They
all get very frightened when I arrive

640
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,476
and start asking questions about things
that they are worried about themselves.

641
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:48,936
And he said: <i>"I can tell you that the buggers
wouldn't let me give the evidence I wanted to give,</i>

642
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,256
<i>which was you know
that I had reversed back and</i>

643
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,320
<i>my propeller had
hit the guy in the face</i>

644
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,420
<i>and that is what
caused the wound."</i>

645
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:57,776
And I said: <i>"Yyou are kidding,"</i>
and he said: <i>"No."</i>

646
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,976
So I said: <i>"Are you prepared to
put that down in writing?"</i> He said:

647
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,736
<i>"Well if I have to, but the best thing would be
to get me in a court and ask me questions and then</i>

648
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,120
<i>I have to answer in a courtroom and
the police can't do me any harm."</i>

649
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,880
When Colin was still in prison he
was via his solicitor, he was sending

650
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,300
out various documents
that he had written.

651
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,800
I was unemployed,
and in those days in Hull,

652
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:25,150
in Mrs. Thatcher's Britain in a place
like Hull with unemployment at 10 percent,

653
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,840
if you had something to do

654
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,336
and I did, the people on the
dole would ignore you for years.

655
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,080
So, I carried on doing
this journalism stuff.

656
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:39,336
Lobster, an obscure magazine made on a
photocopier, with a circulation of 150,

657
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,120
co-founded and co-edited
by Ramsay and Dorril,

658
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,576
may at the time have been the
only publication in Britain

659
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,600
to take Colin Wallace’s
allegations seriously.

660
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:55,440
I wrote this, which was you know 50 pages,
an attempt to explain Colin’s story.

661
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,960
We printed quite a lot of
these about a thousand copies

662
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,600
I think and we went to London
and had a press conference.

663
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:11,280
So, two hicks from the sticks turn up carrying
this big document and saying here's a big story.

664
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,960
The media were not impressed at
all, virtually no response to it.

665
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,360
In January 1987 Colin Wallace
was released from prison.

666
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,576
A journalist called
Julian O' Halloran

667
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,296
went to Lewes Prison and actually filmed Colin
Wallace as he stepped out of the prison gate

668
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,676
and interviewed him and it was
going to be broadcast on Newsnight.

669
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:36,696
I was actually watching Newsnight when
there was a great kerfuffle in the studio.

670
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,816
Something had happened and bits
of paper were being looked at,

671
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,537
headphones were being checked.

672
00:50:41,561 --> 00:50:43,600
What happened was
the Wallace segment

673
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,896
had been yanked at the last minute
by a man called Alan Prothero,

674
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,200
who at that point was
deputy director of the BBC.

675
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,200
Prothero was a part-time army
officer in the territorial army

676
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,080
and his speciality was
media - military relations.

677
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,077
I went down to
visit him and Fred

678
00:51:04,101 --> 00:51:07,476
and it was in the middle of winter. We were
sitting in Colin Wallace’s unheated house.

679
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,500
He had come out of prison and
he couldn't afford to heat it.

680
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,440
So we were all sitting you know in
our coats in Colin’s living room

681
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,500
and I remember
saying something like,

682
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,000
<i>"So your plan is that me and you
two guys with no money between us</i>

683
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,440
<i>are gonna take on
MI5 and the MOD?"</i>

684
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,480
<i>"Yes that's the
plan,"</i> they said.

685
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,720
Irish broadcaster RTE
picked up the story.

686
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,016
The record says that Colin
Wallace killed Jonathan Lewis.

687
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,737
- Oh yes, absolutely.
- Did you?

688
00:51:35,761 --> 00:51:38,216
No, I didn’t, I had nothing
at all to do with his death.

689
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,277
I wasn’t involved in any way.

690
00:51:40,501 --> 00:51:43,976
But I mean if I am not calm
about it. If I panic about it.

691
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,036
If I create a fuss. If I
get excited about it,

692
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,160
that is not going to
change the verdict

693
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,056
any quicker than if I stay calm and deal with
it properly through the correct channels.

694
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,040
Eventually I was hired
by Channel 4 News.

695
00:51:56,540 --> 00:51:58,320
Colin had these
hand written notes

696
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:03,200
that he claimed he had written down
from this MI5 disinformation project

697
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,160
against Labour MPs.

698
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,920
Robert Parker of Channel 4 News went to a
forensic scientist called Dr. Julius Grant.

699
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,480
What chances do you think there
are that these notes are forgeries?

700
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,360
Well, from what I already said,

701
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,720
the chances that they are
forgeries seem to be rather remote.

702
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,600
And thus these documents were in fact written,
probably when Wallace said they were written.

703
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,160
While we were working together
on bits and pieces about Wallace,

704
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,040
another journalist in ITN, who was
one of their crime correspondents,

705
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,656
began feeding information
he was getting from the MOD,

706
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,200
the Ministry of Defense,
denigrating Wallace.

707
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,136
We were also getting similar stuff
from professor Paul Wilkinson,

708
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,680
a terrorism expert, again denigrating Wallace
and saying he's a fantasist and a liar.

709
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,800
Investigative journalist Paul Foot
wrote a book about Colin Wallace.

710
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,760
Wallace began to appear in the
British media more frequently,

711
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,360
including on popular ITV weekly
debate show Central Weekend Live.

712
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,360
If you take the case
of Mr. Wallace here.

713
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,560
As every body else who is ever
convicted of any crime,

714
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:18,096
poor Mr. Wallace was framed. I don’t
believe he was framed, it’s a fact.

715
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:24,016
Any responsible journalist in Northern Ireland in
the early 70s knew what Colin Wallace was up to.

716
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,677
There was this
gung-ho character

717
00:53:25,701 --> 00:53:28,036
who was running around
in the dead of night

718
00:53:28,060 --> 00:53:31,816
shoving envelopes full of documents
into the letter boxes of journalists.

719
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,040
And you would say
there is Colin at it again.

720
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,000
I for one I was probably
the first person in the CIA

721
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,896
who got into this dirty-tricks business. It
wasn’t as dirty as a lot of people think it was.

722
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,717
A lot of people find
it very objectionable.

723
00:53:42,741 --> 00:53:46,576
Just a minute. To blacken someone is a
hell of a lot better than killing them.

724
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,400
In World War 2
we killed people,

725
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,477
and now we got
into the business

726
00:53:50,501 --> 00:53:53,616
where we are simply playing dirty
tricks, to prevent having World War 3.

727
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,936
You are the man that
sparked all this off.

728
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,337
I did not join the
security forces

729
00:53:58,361 --> 00:54:02,180
to discredit the Labour Party, the
Conservative Party or the Liberal Party,

730
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,456
and because I was deflected from my main
job into doing political disinformation,

731
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,000
I was not actually doing the
job I had joined to do.

732
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:14,716
Good evening, a civil servant sacked after making
allegations about an MI5 dirty tricks campaign

733
00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:18,500
has been awarded £30,000
compensation by the government.

734
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,896
Calcutt QC was asked
to conduct an inquiry.

735
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,416
In his report he reveals
that MOD officials

736
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,200
contacted Mr. Wallace’s disciplinary hearing
beforehand, thus influencing the outcome.

737
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,320
The Defence Secretary Tom King asked
Mr. Calcutt not to write a full report.

738
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,720
Labour’s Northern Ireland
Secretary between 1974 and 76 said

739
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,480
he had been the victim of a
dirty tricks campaign.

740
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,960
Who instructed Mr. Wallace

741
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,296
to do the job he and others did.
That is what we have to know.

742
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,600
We want to be sure that this sort of thing never
happens again. I feel very strongly about it.

743
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:58,056
Mrs. Thatcher having insisted there
was no evidence to back such claims

744
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,056
was forced to admit in the
Commons that she had been misled.

745
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,496
This followed the discovery of
documents in the Ministry of Defence,

746
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,240
which related to a propaganda
campaign code-named Clockwork Orange.

747
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,436
He is calling for the government
to launch a full inquiry.

748
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,376
Injustice to me is really
a minor matter.

749
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,076
The much more important matters are the
allegations that there was an attempt to

750
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:21,256
influence the general
election in 1974

751
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,840
and indeed the assaults on the
children in Kincora during the 70s.

752
00:55:25,660 --> 00:55:29,120
My aspect of the story is only
a minor one by comparison.

753
00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:31,320
The government
specifically ruled out

754
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,376
the re-opening into the
investigation of the alleged cover up

755
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,080
of the homosexual abuse of boys
at the Kincora home in Belfast.

756
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,536
Information about homosexual
behavior at the Kincora Boys’ Home

757
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,400
was used to blackmail prominent
figures in Northern Ireland.

758
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,200
After I left Northern Ireland another
intelligence officer came in called Brian Gemmell

759
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:57,440
he was told about the allegation
surrounding the abuses at Kincora.

760
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,240
He wrote a report about
it and he submitted

761
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,240
that report to a senior
MI5 officer, Ian Cameron,

762
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,440
who then told him
to stop investigating.

763
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,520
You know on the phone we have
got phone calls of generals

764
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,320
who have said, <i>"Yes I knew all
about Kincora, I was told and</i>

765
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,040
<i>I took it to MI5 and they said it was none of my
business and I left it to them. It was their business,"</i>

766
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,200
and all this sort of stuff and you know the
realization, like me the light is dawning

767
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,800
that we are not
who we say we are.

768
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,936
Journalist David Leigh tracked down Denis Payne,
the former head of MI5 in Northern Ireland,

769
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,160
to a sleepy village
in the countryside,

770
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,760
and confronted him with the
Clockwork Orange allegations.

771
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,776
I am under an obligation to say absolutely
nothing. I can’t say anything at all.

772
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,476
I mean you have collected all the information,
I can’t believe anybody is in the slightest bit

773
00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:53,000
interested in it, but,
I have nothing to add.

774
00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:00,080
In 1996 Colin Wallace appealed
his conviction for manslaughter.

775
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,000
Today, 15 years after he
was jailed for manslaughter,

776
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,800
Colin Wallace from West
Sussex, cleared his name.

777
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,160
He served 6 years in the 1980s after being
found guilty of killing an antiques dealer

778
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,120
near his home in West Sussex.

779
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,817
During the appeal hearing,

780
00:57:16,841 --> 00:57:21,656
the Home Office pathologist admitted that
a Secret Service agent had suggested to him

781
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:27,640
that the injury was caused by a karate chop to
the head and not from the propeller of a boat.

782
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,496
The hearing at the Court of Appeal
focused largely on new medical evidence

783
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,760
about the injury
Jonathan Lewis received.

784
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,616
Jonathan Lewis was most probably attacked
at the river bank and not at his house,

785
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,760
and he said there was no evidence that his
body had ever been in Colin Wallace’s car.

786
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,880
He says he was the victim of
an MI5 dirty tricks campaign.

787
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,760
Now Mr. Wallace is demanding a
full investigation into his claims.

788
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,920
Even after Colin Wallace had received
compensation his troubles with MI5 were not over.

789
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,657
While I was working at BAA,

790
00:58:03,681 --> 00:58:06,500
MI5 contacted the
head of security there

791
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:10,020
and then I was made
redundant after that.

792
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,640
Now I can't say MI5 was
responsible, but again

793
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,240
why were they still meddling in
my case after all those years.

794
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,400
The media reported Colin Wallace’s
appeal and aired his allegations,

795
00:58:23,660 --> 00:58:25,497
but they did not
ask themselves

796
00:58:25,521 --> 00:58:28,856
what role they themselves had
played in spreading fake news

797
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,200
and what lessons they could learn
for their reporting in future.

798
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,440
Colin Wallace repeatedly called for
a full investigation into his claims.

799
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,560
But there was to be
no full investigation,

800
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,120
only an ever longer list of
inquiries and legal disputes

801
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,240
spanning decades, as the
allegations faded from public view.

802
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,640
We now look at

803
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,720
probably five inquiries
that all failed totally

804
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:02,400
to do what Parliament assured
the public that it would do.

805
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,840
Still to this day
Colin is a problem.

806
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:12,280
There are major efforts
to restrict what he says.

807
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:20,140
Kincora is a prime example, the boys home
where it is alleged intelligence people

808
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:25,036
were involved recruiting people used
people etc the inquiries into that

809
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,760
have been
incredibly restricted.

810
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:34,560
And Colin on the one hand will be told: yes come
and tell us your story tell us everything.

811
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,096
Then when it gets nearer you get a
document from the minister that says

812
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:45,840
I am sorry you can talk about that area
but no way he's going to talk about that

813
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:53,240
or MI5 … he cannot talk about this area because
that gets him into an Official Secrets area.

814
00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:00,320
So even to this day 40 years on they
are still trying to shut him up.

815
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,360
The whole system you see is
unaccountable and it's insidious

816
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,536
it's easy for MI5 to
say no we don't do it

817
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,300
because nobody can prove
what they did and they didn’t.

818
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,416
Today, the role the military and
intelligence services can play

819
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,840
in manufacturing and
manipulating the news

820
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,176
is considered a conspiracy.

821
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:25,540
Despite extensive press coverage
of Colin Wallace’s allegations,

822
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,280
not a single person in a position of
authority has been held to account.

823
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,776
When Hugh Mooney of the IRD was
asked under oath at a public inquiry

824
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,480
about his PsyOps work,

825
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,080
he lied and claimed he was
never involved in PsyOps,

826
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,960
despite overwhelming
evidence to the contrary.

827
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,920
Hugh Mooney walked away,

828
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,840
no questions asked and became
a successful businessman.

829
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,520
This is a very,
very secretive society.

830
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,080
It runs through everything.

831
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,360
Secrecy is the British disease. It's
not anything else, it’s secrecy.

832
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,440
If you believe in the democratic
process there has to be oversight

833
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,400
and at the moment we
don't have oversight.

834
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,200
Because vetting is an important issue
for politicians who are looking for

835
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,400
ministerial appointments

836
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,760
and service people or police officers
moving into the higher level,

837
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,920
you must have access
to classified information.

838
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,816
If MI5 don't agree to you
having that clearance,

839
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,520
if they take that clearance away
from you, then your career is doomed.

840
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:39,376
So, you never know about it, it is an invisible
threat that is hanging over people all the time

841
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,860
and therefore the
danger is that MI5

842
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:50,080
has almost an invisible degree of influence
that really is way outside what it should be.

843
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:56,080
And it is therefore virtually impossible to
challenge MI5 on some of the decisions they make.

844
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,720
Politicians are careerists, most of them they
want to go up the ladder, become ministers,

845
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:06,376
and if you start criticizing or investigating
the army or the intelligence services,

846
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,760
this will not do your career
any good whatsoever.

847
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,080
And this is also true for journalists, not
a good career path. This is sticky stuff.

848
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,276
People are saying well
why are you fighting

849
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:21,040
with the Army and the MOD,
surely you are a part of that.

850
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,440
I am only fighting with the MOD
because I was given no choice,

851
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,800
because the MOD didn't
even talk to me.

852
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,960
If I hadn't fought when I did

853
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,200
I would probably still
have a conviction

854
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,800
and I still wouldn’t have got the admissions
out of the government that we have now got.

855
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:44,936
People realize that the full truth hasn't come out and
although authorities think they may have been clever

856
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,176
and believable to dodge around the issue
the public have a totally different view.

857
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,176
People are pretty aware of when
things are not actually truthful

858
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,456
and they know at the moment they
haven't had the full truth about

859
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,200
what has happened
in Northern Ireland.

860
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:06,160
So, can you give an example of the areas
of the troubles that are still closed?

861
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:13,240
I can't say precisely, because
that would put me in jeopardy.

862
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,520
And it would put
Colin in deep jeopardy.

863
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,800
But there are certain areas

864
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,776
of the troubles which have simply
not been talked about at all.

865
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,280
There are things about,

866
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,280
there is a suicide
in Northern Ireland

867
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:41,260
of a military intelligence officer, one of
the key events. It is an official secret.

868
01:03:41,420 --> 01:03:47,940
A suicide is an official secret and
so far no one has written about it.

869
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:56,000
And some of the events around that
are appalling, in that he ran agents,

870
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:02,640
agents, who were 14 and 15
year old Catholic schoolgirls.

871
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,880
This is how desperate the army at
some stage became to get intelligence.

872
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,320
And you kind of say: <i>"How do you run
a 14 year old Catholic schoolgirl."</i>

873
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,880
In the story of Colin Wallace

874
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,120
the press helps direct the
present by spreading fake news

875
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:30,120
and the media helps digest the past by
creating a discussion about the past.

876
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,936
The role of departments of the state
in creating and shaping reality

877
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,457
is not acknowledged.

878
01:04:36,481 --> 01:04:39,480
And even after the media
has become aware of this,

879
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,520
it does not inform the public of
the implications of that omission.

880
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:49,480
Power is not held to account, no key
decision makers are held to account,

881
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,400
and they and their organizations
make no admission of wrong-doing.

882
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,920
The files that would serve as proof of
their actions either destroyed or hidden.

883
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,800
In this story the press serves
as a complex mechanism

884
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,840
that helps to reinforce
and legitimize power.

885
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,456
Allegations of
wrong-doing and injustice

886
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,216
become lost in inquiries
and legal disputes,

887
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,896
that drag on to this day
and that most people

888
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,080
no longer
understand or believe.

889
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,680
We are told that a free press
will hold power to account.

890
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:28,216
But what of those individuals and institutions
that will never be held to account

891
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:34,120
and have never been held to account. Should
the press include that truth in its reporting?

892
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:40,120
Or are some truths destined to be
nothing more than versions of fake news?

893
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:49,680
Former residents of the Kincora Boys’
Home are still fighting for justice.

894
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,516
The British Home Office, Foreign Office,
MI5 and MI6 continue to engage in PsyOps.

895
01:05:54,540 --> 01:05:58,976
The British Army’s psychological warfare
unit is currently called "The 77th Brigade".

896
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,600
Together they target Britain’s perceived
enemies, real and imaginary, with impunity.

897
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:10,496
Colin Wallace continues to participate as a witness
in inquiries relating to his time in Northern Ireland.

898
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,176
He lives on the same street, in the
same house, in the same village where

899
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,720
the unsolved murder of Jonathan
Lewis took place over 40 years ago.



