1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:30,572 --> 00:00:40,581 [footsteps tapping] 4 00:00:40,623 --> 00:00:50,841 [footsteps tapping] 5 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:58,390 - [exhales heavily] 6 00:00:58,433 --> 00:01:00,642 I love when I start a day 7 00:01:00,685 --> 00:01:03,562 and I really don't know where it's gonna take me. 8 00:01:03,605 --> 00:01:06,732 [soft vocal music] 9 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:13,280 Waking up every day in a different country, 10 00:01:13,323 --> 00:01:15,199 creating projects... 11 00:01:20,372 --> 00:01:24,291 Never really looking back, just being in the action. 12 00:01:24,334 --> 00:01:26,335 Action, action, action. 13 00:01:29,714 --> 00:01:32,424 Maybe that's why I've always been documenting it... 14 00:01:34,636 --> 00:01:36,178 To keep a trace of it. 15 00:01:52,821 --> 00:01:56,907 The excuse of the art is the greatest path ever. 16 00:01:56,950 --> 00:01:58,742 [bricks crashing] 17 00:02:02,622 --> 00:02:03,914 I'm actually kind of shy 18 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:06,625 and can be afraid to talk to people. 19 00:02:06,668 --> 00:02:10,587 But when I do a project, I have to explain, 20 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:14,633 "I come here by myself, with my own money, 21 00:02:14,676 --> 00:02:17,386 "to try to do this project here with you, 22 00:02:17,429 --> 00:02:21,223 in your community, if it makes sense to you." 23 00:02:24,519 --> 00:02:26,478 And then, of course, some people ask, 24 00:02:26,521 --> 00:02:28,814 "Yeah, but what is this going to achieve?" 25 00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:35,320 I always say, "I don't know. Let's see." 26 00:02:38,950 --> 00:02:41,660 It's almost like if we do a pact of the unknown: 27 00:02:41,703 --> 00:02:43,871 "Okay, we're gonna do this, 28 00:02:43,913 --> 00:02:46,498 but I have no idea where it's gonna take us." 29 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:29,875 - And your ID right here one more time. 30 00:03:29,918 --> 00:03:33,253 - Thank you. 31 00:03:33,296 --> 00:03:43,430 [indistinct chatter] 32 00:03:43,473 --> 00:03:48,394 [clears throat] 33 00:03:48,436 --> 00:03:50,562 [indistinct chatter] 34 00:03:50,605 --> 00:03:52,940 [buzzer blares] 35 00:03:52,982 --> 00:04:01,573 [indistinct chatter] 36 00:04:01,616 --> 00:04:04,284 So here I am, supermax prison, 37 00:04:04,327 --> 00:04:06,745 to meet some inmates that have been incarcerated 38 00:04:06,788 --> 00:04:08,580 when they were teenagers, 39 00:04:08,623 --> 00:04:12,751 mainly because of the three-strike law. 40 00:04:12,794 --> 00:04:16,463 This is level four, maximum security level four, 41 00:04:16,506 --> 00:04:23,012 and so a lot of the most violent. 42 00:04:23,054 --> 00:04:25,305 Damn. What, someone got stabbed? 43 00:04:25,348 --> 00:04:26,849 - Yeah, they wanted to try to clean it up 44 00:04:26,891 --> 00:04:28,308 before you guys got here, but they didn't do it. 45 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:29,476 - That was when? 46 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:30,936 - That was two days ago, apparently. 47 00:04:30,979 --> 00:04:36,859 - Wow. 48 00:04:36,901 --> 00:04:39,903 - Hey. - Hello, hello. 49 00:04:39,946 --> 00:04:41,363 Hey. How are you? - Welcome. 50 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:42,656 I'm JR. 51 00:04:42,699 --> 00:04:44,533 Hey, how are you? - Hey, what's up? 52 00:04:44,576 --> 00:04:45,951 I come from France. 53 00:04:45,994 --> 00:04:47,327 I'll try to remember every name, guys, 54 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:49,038 but, like, you gotta give me a minute. 55 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,624 How are you? JR. 56 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:54,376 [clears throat] 57 00:04:54,419 --> 00:04:57,046 Well, thank you for having me. 58 00:04:57,088 --> 00:05:01,008 What we're about to do here is, I take photos of you guys 59 00:05:01,051 --> 00:05:05,346 and also photos of people who made it out 60 00:05:05,388 --> 00:05:08,640 and also families of people who have forgiven, 61 00:05:08,683 --> 00:05:11,810 people who have connected with some people in here, 62 00:05:11,853 --> 00:05:14,688 and so--to try to connect all the dots 63 00:05:14,731 --> 00:05:18,025 to show how everyone is interlinked together. 64 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:19,693 We're not here to judge anything. 65 00:05:19,736 --> 00:05:22,029 We're here to listen to the story 66 00:05:22,072 --> 00:05:25,491 and to portray you the way you want to be portrayed. 67 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:29,787 But my feeling, just from being from the outside-- 68 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:32,122 that's why I really need to hear it from you-- 69 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,708 is that this is kind of how it feel here. 70 00:05:34,751 --> 00:05:36,710 Like, being between walls, 71 00:05:36,753 --> 00:05:38,504 it feels like almost everyone 72 00:05:38,546 --> 00:05:39,838 is, like, dropped in the same hole. 73 00:05:39,881 --> 00:05:42,091 And I want to make that as a visual 74 00:05:42,133 --> 00:05:47,054 so that when people see, they understand it. 75 00:05:47,097 --> 00:05:49,682 Well, I'd love to hear from you what you think, 76 00:05:49,724 --> 00:05:51,600 if you have any questions for me. 77 00:05:51,643 --> 00:05:54,687 What--you know, how can I, 78 00:05:54,729 --> 00:05:57,981 you know, help make things clearer? 79 00:05:58,024 --> 00:06:09,868 What--you know, any questions, basically, I'm open. 80 00:06:09,911 --> 00:06:11,829 - What it is that you're trying to--like, 81 00:06:11,871 --> 00:06:14,456 what is it that you're trying to accomplish with this? 82 00:06:14,499 --> 00:06:15,624 That's my question. 83 00:06:15,667 --> 00:06:17,710 - The thing is, I didn't even know 84 00:06:17,752 --> 00:06:21,547 that someone can be locked up when he was a kid for life. 85 00:06:21,589 --> 00:06:23,549 In my country, I never heard that. 86 00:06:23,591 --> 00:06:25,175 Maybe in the U.S., people know. 87 00:06:25,218 --> 00:06:27,052 But people tend to forget. 88 00:06:27,095 --> 00:06:29,096 By not seeing each other, by not-- 89 00:06:29,139 --> 00:06:30,180 then you tend to forget. 90 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:31,598 Everybody goes into their own thing, 91 00:06:31,641 --> 00:06:33,142 and then you get forgotten. 92 00:06:33,184 --> 00:06:36,103 But when you see and you put a face and a story to someone, 93 00:06:36,146 --> 00:06:38,564 then you're like--well, you can't forget it anymore. 94 00:06:38,606 --> 00:06:41,567 Look, I don't make fake promises. 95 00:06:41,609 --> 00:06:42,860 I'm not a politician, you know. 96 00:06:42,902 --> 00:06:44,737 I'm always very careful with my words. 97 00:06:44,779 --> 00:06:47,114 But I'll give you an example. 98 00:06:47,157 --> 00:06:49,033 It's interesting when you work on walls, 99 00:06:49,075 --> 00:06:51,910 people are always coming to me, "Oh, you should do this wall." 100 00:06:51,953 --> 00:06:54,204 Well, there's a wall that I keep hearing. 101 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:55,873 So one day, I say, "All right, let's take the car." 102 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:58,000 I went with my friends. We just drove there. 103 00:06:58,043 --> 00:07:02,796 [demon's "riddim in the park"] 104 00:07:11,973 --> 00:07:13,140 - How you guys doing? - Good. How are you? 105 00:07:13,183 --> 00:07:14,224 - Good. And you? 106 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:15,476 Yeah, we're just checking out the wall. 107 00:07:15,518 --> 00:07:16,894 - Yeah. - Oh, checking out the wall? 108 00:07:16,936 --> 00:07:17,895 - They just wanted to see it. 109 00:07:17,937 --> 00:07:19,646 - Yeah. - What wall? 110 00:07:19,689 --> 00:07:20,898 - Oh. [laughter] 111 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:22,608 - You guys see a wall anywhere? 112 00:07:22,650 --> 00:07:24,193 - Fence. - The fence, the fence. Sorry. 113 00:07:24,235 --> 00:07:25,944 - Yeah, that's been there for a long time. 114 00:07:25,987 --> 00:07:28,155 - Yeah. - Where you guys live? 115 00:07:28,198 --> 00:07:29,948 - Oh, no, we're French. We just-- 116 00:07:29,991 --> 00:07:33,160 I mean, he's American, we're French, so we just-- 117 00:07:33,203 --> 00:07:34,578 - Step out. 118 00:07:34,621 --> 00:07:35,829 - Yeah. [speaking french] 119 00:07:35,872 --> 00:07:36,789 - Oh, do you need me to pull up? 120 00:07:36,831 --> 00:07:42,670 - Yeah. 121 00:07:42,712 --> 00:07:43,796 - Hi. - How's it going? 122 00:07:43,838 --> 00:07:44,963 - Good. How are you? 123 00:07:45,006 --> 00:07:46,590 - Pretty good. Where you guys heading? 124 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:48,592 - Just gonna take some pictures of the wall. 125 00:07:48,635 --> 00:07:49,968 - Yeah. - The wall? 126 00:07:50,011 --> 00:07:51,970 - Or the fence. Whatever. Yeah. - Fence. 127 00:07:52,013 --> 00:07:53,681 Okay. Have a good time. - Okay. 128 00:07:53,723 --> 00:07:55,140 - Thank you. - Thanks. 129 00:07:55,183 --> 00:07:58,560 [somber music] 130 00:08:00,605 --> 00:08:01,939 - I wanted to find a place 131 00:08:01,981 --> 00:08:04,066 where I could do an installation 132 00:08:04,109 --> 00:08:07,695 that would play with the wall but not touch the wall. 133 00:08:13,702 --> 00:08:16,870 I found a place where we can drive in front of the wall. 134 00:08:16,913 --> 00:08:18,664 But on the U.S. side, 135 00:08:18,707 --> 00:08:20,874 Border Patrol is everywhere, helicopters flying. 136 00:08:20,917 --> 00:08:22,251 I'm like, "Okay, this doesn't look 137 00:08:22,293 --> 00:08:24,003 like an easy place to do something." 138 00:08:24,045 --> 00:08:25,671 And then I look on the other side, 139 00:08:25,714 --> 00:08:27,965 and I see some houses close by the wall, 140 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:30,009 actually not that far. 141 00:08:30,051 --> 00:08:32,302 So we go past the border. 142 00:08:34,264 --> 00:08:37,850 And then I go to the closest house from the wall, 143 00:08:37,892 --> 00:08:39,018 because I'm like, "Oh, maybe I could 144 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:40,561 paste something on that house." 145 00:08:40,603 --> 00:08:42,312 And I knock at that door. 146 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:45,983 Well, there was this woman and two old people, 147 00:08:46,026 --> 00:08:48,193 little baby and two chickens and a dog. 148 00:08:48,236 --> 00:08:49,903 And she looked at me, and she's like, 149 00:08:49,946 --> 00:08:52,239 "Oh, I follow you on social media." 150 00:08:52,282 --> 00:08:54,867 That's insane--the first door I bang, you know? 151 00:08:54,909 --> 00:08:56,869 That's really weird. 152 00:08:56,911 --> 00:08:57,870 So I'm like, "All right, look, you know me. 153 00:08:57,912 --> 00:08:59,121 I do this kind of stuff." 154 00:08:59,164 --> 00:09:00,247 So she takes me to that spot 155 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:02,666 that's the closest from the fence. 156 00:09:02,709 --> 00:09:04,710 But it's trees and stuff, so I'm like, "Ah, okay, 157 00:09:04,753 --> 00:09:07,713 "I see it's a bit complicated for me to do it there. 158 00:09:07,756 --> 00:09:09,006 "So look, thank you. 159 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:11,925 Let me continue driving alongside the wall." 160 00:09:14,095 --> 00:09:16,347 I kept on going all the way to the ocean. 161 00:09:18,933 --> 00:09:20,351 I'm like, "Shit. 162 00:09:20,393 --> 00:09:23,645 "That kid, he don't know what a fence is. 163 00:09:23,688 --> 00:09:24,938 "He don't know that there is two countries, 164 00:09:24,981 --> 00:09:26,231 "that there is two sides. 165 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:28,067 He don't know what that wall means." 166 00:09:28,109 --> 00:09:30,736 So I go back, and all I did 167 00:09:30,779 --> 00:09:32,905 is photograph him standing in the crib, 168 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:34,907 looking around him like that. 169 00:09:36,868 --> 00:09:39,078 And then I left. 170 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,913 And we look around, down the little hill 171 00:09:40,955 --> 00:09:42,289 that go up to the wall. 172 00:09:42,332 --> 00:09:43,707 There's nothing. 173 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:45,668 It's just grass and garbage here and there. 174 00:09:45,710 --> 00:09:48,295 So I'm like, "Okay, whose land is this? 175 00:09:48,338 --> 00:09:50,756 So I ask every neighbor: "Hey, excuse me, sir. 176 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:52,966 You know whose land is that?" "You know, I don't know. 177 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,093 I don't want to have anything to do with it." 178 00:09:54,135 --> 00:09:55,177 "All right, that's all I need to hear." 179 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:56,679 I go to the next neighbor: 180 00:09:56,721 --> 00:09:58,305 "Hey, man, do you know whose land is this?" 181 00:09:58,348 --> 00:09:59,723 Some people wouldn't even open the door. 182 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:00,974 Like, "What do you want? No." 183 00:10:01,017 --> 00:10:02,309 So what do you do? 184 00:10:02,352 --> 00:10:04,853 My only option was, let's rent a bulldozer. 185 00:10:04,896 --> 00:10:05,979 [laughter] 186 00:10:06,022 --> 00:10:07,314 Anyone can rent a bulldozer. 187 00:10:07,357 --> 00:10:09,316 They'll deliver it to whatever address. 188 00:10:09,359 --> 00:10:12,277 So I started digging the ground. 189 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,863 And I was like, "All right, what are the risks for me, 190 00:10:14,906 --> 00:10:16,990 "as a French person in Mexico, 191 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:20,077 digging a ground next to-- next to the border?" 192 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,079 Well, I'm not digging a hole under it. 193 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:23,330 I'm just, like, flattening it. 194 00:10:23,373 --> 00:10:25,207 So maybe the Mexicans will come first and say, 195 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:26,333 "Hey, man, you can't do that here. 196 00:10:26,376 --> 00:10:27,376 Are you crazy?" 197 00:10:27,419 --> 00:10:30,254 And I would be, "Oh, I'm so sorry." 198 00:10:30,296 --> 00:10:33,132 And we start one day, two days, three days--for, like, 15 days. 199 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:36,760 No one says anything, and we level the ground. 200 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:38,679 I couldn't believe it. I was like, "What the fuck? 201 00:10:38,722 --> 00:10:40,431 Who is in charge here?" 202 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:43,434 So then I go to a place to rent scaffolding. 203 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:45,978 [indistinct chatter] 204 00:10:46,021 --> 00:10:47,146 "All right, if you pay, we'll build it. 205 00:10:47,188 --> 00:10:48,856 You know, we don't ask questions." 206 00:10:48,898 --> 00:10:51,692 [tools banging] 207 00:10:51,735 --> 00:10:57,740 [all speaking spanish] 208 00:10:57,782 --> 00:11:01,243 [laughter] 209 00:11:01,286 --> 00:11:03,996 [laughter] 210 00:11:04,039 --> 00:11:06,790 [dynamic music] 211 00:11:06,833 --> 00:11:08,042 - It's bigger than the wall. 212 00:11:08,084 --> 00:11:10,169 It's three times the size of the wall. 213 00:11:10,211 --> 00:11:12,880 Let's see if the Border Patrol stop us. 214 00:11:19,304 --> 00:11:22,723 I come with my team, and we paste that little kid. 215 00:11:24,309 --> 00:11:25,809 There I was like, "Okay, 216 00:11:25,852 --> 00:11:27,811 "maybe that's where I'm gonna lose everything, 217 00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:30,397 "because Border Patrol is gonna start saying, 218 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,192 "'There's something big being built by the wall. 219 00:11:33,234 --> 00:11:34,777 We should do something about it.'" 220 00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:57,883 - [speaking spanish] 221 00:11:57,926 --> 00:12:07,184 - [speaking spanish] 222 00:12:07,227 --> 00:12:12,356 - In one day, we pasted the entire structure. 223 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:14,525 And I was like, "Okay, let's get out of here." 224 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:16,777 And I passed back on the other side 225 00:12:16,820 --> 00:12:18,779 and stumbled on those two Border Patrol 226 00:12:18,822 --> 00:12:20,906 that was just looking at the kid. 227 00:12:20,949 --> 00:12:22,491 And I just put on Internet. 228 00:12:22,534 --> 00:12:24,952 I say, "Hey, whoever wants to go see that kid, 229 00:12:24,994 --> 00:12:26,203 here is the location." 230 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:27,830 That's all I say. 231 00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:32,501 One of the great things that art do is, 232 00:12:32,544 --> 00:12:35,546 if you build a giant kid somewhere, people will say, 233 00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:37,339 "Ah, that's a fun thing. I'll go see that. 234 00:12:37,382 --> 00:12:39,383 Let's go take a selfie in front of it." 235 00:12:42,137 --> 00:12:44,346 That's where my idea start. 236 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:45,806 I hope people go and take photos 237 00:12:45,849 --> 00:12:47,266 so they'll see the wall. 238 00:12:47,308 --> 00:12:50,561 It's the same land, but we're on each side. 239 00:12:52,313 --> 00:12:55,357 And what happened is something I haven't planned. 240 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,110 People exchanging their phones through the wall 241 00:12:58,153 --> 00:13:00,237 to take photos of each other, connecting, talking: 242 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,947 "Hey, how are you?" 243 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:03,240 The Border Patrol should be, "Wait, wait, wait. 244 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:04,491 "They could be passing drugs, 245 00:13:04,534 --> 00:13:05,868 "or they could be passing weapons. 246 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:07,244 Let's go arrest those people." 247 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:13,459 After three weeks, no one got arrested. 248 00:13:15,337 --> 00:13:17,921 How the fuck people don't get arrested 249 00:13:17,964 --> 00:13:21,467 for passing stuff through the wall? 250 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:23,844 Because I know there's guys on the hills 251 00:13:23,887 --> 00:13:28,015 overlooking every second. 252 00:13:28,058 --> 00:13:29,975 After one month of seeing that, 253 00:13:30,018 --> 00:13:32,478 I had to give back the scaffolding. 254 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,982 We decided to go and to organize a table 255 00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:38,942 that would go through the wall. 256 00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:42,279 [dramatic music] 257 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:45,949 We built a table, 36 feet on each side. 258 00:13:45,992 --> 00:13:49,078 Yes, we would block the road a little bit on the U.S. side, 259 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,955 'cause the table will end up on the road. 260 00:13:54,209 --> 00:13:55,709 A few days later, we got a letter 261 00:13:55,752 --> 00:13:58,545 from the Border Patrol saying that they strongly recommend 262 00:13:58,588 --> 00:14:01,465 keeping the table on the Mexican side only. 263 00:14:04,552 --> 00:14:06,428 We continued, but we had to improvise 264 00:14:06,471 --> 00:14:09,640 another way of building the table from the U.S. side. 265 00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:14,353 And then we invited people to come 266 00:14:14,396 --> 00:14:17,106 and see Kikito for the last time. 267 00:14:17,148 --> 00:14:22,361 [indistinct chatter] 268 00:14:22,404 --> 00:14:24,363 People on the Mexican side all started sitting, 269 00:14:24,406 --> 00:14:26,240 and we started making food, 270 00:14:26,282 --> 00:14:28,200 but there was nobody on the other side, 271 00:14:28,243 --> 00:14:30,202 'cause we couldn't build a table. 272 00:14:30,245 --> 00:14:32,246 Hello. How are you? 273 00:14:32,288 --> 00:14:33,997 - We're from Germany. 274 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,083 - Ah, from Germany. Wow. Amazing. 275 00:14:36,126 --> 00:14:37,334 You know we're doing a lunch thing. 276 00:14:37,377 --> 00:14:39,086 - Can't go to the other side. 277 00:14:39,129 --> 00:14:41,463 - As soon as people would come to take photos, we told them, 278 00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:44,967 "Hey, if you can stay a little bit longer." 279 00:14:45,010 --> 00:14:47,511 After, like, an hour or an hour and a half, 280 00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:50,139 there was maybe 20, 30 people, 281 00:14:50,181 --> 00:14:52,141 and we passed them a tarp. 282 00:14:52,183 --> 00:14:53,517 And then we're like, "Okay, maybe we only have 283 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,395 a couple minutes, so we let's go fast." 284 00:14:56,438 --> 00:15:01,608 Table on the Mexican side that continue on the U.S. side. 285 00:15:01,651 --> 00:15:05,237 And one music band plays in two sides. 286 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,240 [upbeat music playing] 287 00:15:16,332 --> 00:15:18,250 Half of the band was in Mexico, 288 00:15:18,293 --> 00:15:19,418 the other half was in the U.S., 289 00:15:19,461 --> 00:15:20,627 but it was the same band. 290 00:15:20,670 --> 00:15:22,588 They were playing the same music. 291 00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:26,050 We would pass tacos that we made in Mexico 292 00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:27,092 through the wall. 293 00:15:27,135 --> 00:15:28,385 We passed them illegal tacos. 294 00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:30,054 So now I'm thinking, 295 00:15:30,096 --> 00:15:31,722 "We're gonna get arrested in five minutes. 296 00:15:31,765 --> 00:15:33,682 "Let's just pretend we're eating 297 00:15:33,725 --> 00:15:35,517 so I can take a photo." 298 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,436 Everybody gather around the table. 299 00:15:37,479 --> 00:15:39,646 We're gonna take a photo from above. 300 00:15:39,689 --> 00:15:42,649 [speaking spanish] 301 00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:46,153 You ready? Cinco. Quatro. 302 00:15:46,196 --> 00:15:50,199 all: Tres. Dos. Uno. 303 00:15:50,241 --> 00:15:53,285 all: Whoo! 304 00:15:53,328 --> 00:15:55,579 [soft music] 305 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:58,290 - You know, from up there, there's no wall. 306 00:16:08,051 --> 00:16:10,594 We thought this would last two minutes, 307 00:16:10,637 --> 00:16:13,180 that we would put the tarp and take a photo, 308 00:16:13,223 --> 00:16:15,432 and that's it; we have to take everything up. 309 00:16:15,475 --> 00:16:17,643 And 5 minute passed, 10 minute passed, 310 00:16:17,686 --> 00:16:20,771 15, 20, 30, one hour, we're still eating. 311 00:16:24,359 --> 00:16:26,110 It was just a nice lunch with music. 312 00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:29,071 And for a moment, we really forgot there was a wall. 313 00:16:40,208 --> 00:16:43,335 This is the eye of a woman who's a Dreamer. 314 00:16:43,378 --> 00:16:47,047 Dreamer is someone who had come to the United States 315 00:16:47,090 --> 00:16:48,507 when she was very little 316 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:51,510 with her parents but illegally. 317 00:16:51,553 --> 00:16:53,262 Her name is Mayra. 318 00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:54,805 I told her not to come, 'cause they say 319 00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:56,765 there's a big chance we'll get arrested. 320 00:16:56,808 --> 00:17:00,185 But not only she came; she came with her mother. 321 00:17:00,228 --> 00:17:03,731 - With DACA ending, I have very few months left 322 00:17:03,773 --> 00:17:07,359 being able to be this brave and come to the border. 323 00:17:13,867 --> 00:17:16,118 - It's only an hour and a half later, 324 00:17:16,161 --> 00:17:18,078 then the Border Patrol came. 325 00:17:18,121 --> 00:17:20,205 Everybody got scared. 326 00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:22,082 I told them, "All right, send him over to me." 327 00:17:22,125 --> 00:17:25,210 I was on the safe side. I was in Mexico anyway. 328 00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:27,087 I was not even trying to justify myself. 329 00:17:27,130 --> 00:17:29,548 I said, "Look," you know. And he said, "I know. I know." 330 00:17:29,591 --> 00:17:31,759 Turns out, they were watching us the whole time 331 00:17:31,801 --> 00:17:33,552 but had decided to let it happen. 332 00:17:33,595 --> 00:17:36,638 Thank you. Can you share tea with me? 333 00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:39,391 - Sure. 334 00:17:39,434 --> 00:17:41,393 - Salud. Thank you. 335 00:17:41,436 --> 00:17:43,771 - Thank you. 336 00:17:43,813 --> 00:17:45,439 - A Chinese tea at the Mexican border. 337 00:17:45,482 --> 00:17:48,192 How's that? [laughter] 338 00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:50,569 He went and talked with Mayra. 339 00:17:50,612 --> 00:17:52,237 When she came that morning, 340 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,156 we never thought she would be talking with an officer. 341 00:17:54,199 --> 00:17:58,577 And he told her that he also had family on the other side. 342 00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:00,454 And they were talking. 343 00:18:03,708 --> 00:18:07,336 That made me realize that art can go places beyond laws, 344 00:18:07,379 --> 00:18:09,755 beyond rules, beyond borders. 345 00:18:09,798 --> 00:18:12,466 Maybe because art is not part of any organization. 346 00:18:12,509 --> 00:18:14,259 It's not part of the state. 347 00:18:14,302 --> 00:18:17,763 It's something that we own-- we, the people, own. 348 00:18:17,806 --> 00:18:20,474 And that's why it goes so far. 349 00:18:20,517 --> 00:18:23,727 - That little kid say, "Hey, I'm here! 350 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:26,230 I'm exist!" [laughter] 351 00:18:26,272 --> 00:18:28,148 "I'm not terrorist!" 352 00:18:28,191 --> 00:18:29,483 - A future, a better future, 353 00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:31,819 that's what it means for me. 354 00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:04,476 [flashbulb popping] - Yeah. 355 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:06,603 Nice, and now looking down in front of you. 356 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:08,605 Yeah, perfect. 357 00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:11,233 I like when you hold it there. 358 00:19:11,276 --> 00:19:12,526 Nice. 359 00:19:12,569 --> 00:19:15,195 - You certainly, as a kid, don't think of this, 360 00:19:15,238 --> 00:19:17,865 that you're gonna do life in prison, as a kid, 361 00:19:17,907 --> 00:19:19,825 doing the things that you've done. 362 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:22,619 You know, there's a lot of fences and walls in here 363 00:19:22,662 --> 00:19:25,664 to keep us in, but it does more than that. 364 00:19:25,707 --> 00:19:28,751 It destroys who we are, destroys our families. 365 00:19:28,793 --> 00:19:30,294 - You were a, what, graffiti artist before? 366 00:19:30,337 --> 00:19:31,628 - Yeah. Yeah. 367 00:19:31,671 --> 00:19:32,880 - That's funny, 'cause I kind of started off, 368 00:19:32,922 --> 00:19:33,964 you know, kind of into that little lifestyle. 369 00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:35,549 - Oh, yeah? 370 00:19:35,592 --> 00:19:37,509 - The only difference is that my transition kind of ending up 371 00:19:37,552 --> 00:19:39,970 going a different, you know, way after. 372 00:19:40,013 --> 00:19:41,847 - 14 years, you had no human contact. 373 00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:43,515 - No, just when they cuff you up... 374 00:19:43,558 --> 00:19:44,767 - Yeah. - And they take you out. 375 00:19:44,809 --> 00:19:45,893 That's it. 376 00:19:45,935 --> 00:19:47,686 [somber music] 377 00:19:47,729 --> 00:19:50,522 - Still can't really believe those-- 378 00:19:50,565 --> 00:19:52,858 those human cages. 379 00:19:52,901 --> 00:19:54,360 Insane. 380 00:19:56,404 --> 00:20:00,866 Well, here the bird gets free in the human cages. 381 00:20:00,909 --> 00:20:02,868 We hope that this image will get around the world. 382 00:20:02,911 --> 00:20:04,370 People will see. - Definitely. 383 00:20:04,412 --> 00:20:06,705 - And then they'll be like, "Okay, who is that person?" 384 00:20:06,748 --> 00:20:08,457 And actually, when you take the image 385 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:09,833 and you put your hand on any person, 386 00:20:09,876 --> 00:20:11,543 you can hear their story right away. 387 00:20:11,586 --> 00:20:12,711 - Wow, that's awesome. 388 00:20:12,754 --> 00:20:14,004 - We're putting, like, an app for this 389 00:20:14,047 --> 00:20:15,798 or something that you can click on, you know, 390 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,676 and then you hear the stories of the people. 391 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:21,470 - My name's Kevin. I was a gang member. 392 00:20:21,513 --> 00:20:23,013 I put my whole life and focus 393 00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:25,724 into what I was doing at the moment. 394 00:20:25,767 --> 00:20:26,892 Really, I was just trying to, like, 395 00:20:26,935 --> 00:20:29,019 people-please other people. 396 00:20:29,062 --> 00:20:31,438 I knew that this wasn't what I wanted, 397 00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:33,732 but I was scared. 398 00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:36,402 I'm not the person that you see. 399 00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:38,696 How do you say that you're a loving person 400 00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:40,364 with this on my face, you know? 401 00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:43,283 And I was trying to explain, like, what it was. 402 00:20:43,326 --> 00:20:46,870 I mean, it was a prison thing, and it's not really, like, 403 00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:48,831 how, like, I perceive other people, you know? 404 00:20:48,873 --> 00:20:49,873 - Yeah. 405 00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:52,960 - And it made me feel really ashamed. 406 00:20:53,003 --> 00:20:55,421 - Yeah. Yeah, like that. That's great. 407 00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:58,966 - I'm not just a monster that society sees me as. 408 00:20:59,009 --> 00:21:02,052 I'm a person. I'm a man. I'm a human. 409 00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:04,054 - Hello, outside world. My name's Richard. 410 00:21:04,097 --> 00:21:05,472 - My name is Nicholas. 411 00:21:05,515 --> 00:21:06,974 - My name is Raul Cios. - My name is Frankie Vasquez. 412 00:21:07,017 --> 00:21:08,392 - My name is Francisco Olivares. 413 00:21:08,435 --> 00:21:10,060 - My name's Yang. - My name's Chris. 414 00:21:10,103 --> 00:21:11,395 - My name is Carlton Fields. - My name's Alejandro Serrano. 415 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:12,896 - My name is Alex. 416 00:21:26,536 --> 00:21:29,496 [soft music] 417 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:39,798 - The biggest mountains and walls we have to pass 418 00:21:39,841 --> 00:21:40,966 are within ourselves. 419 00:21:41,009 --> 00:21:44,011 They're not in front of us. 420 00:21:44,054 --> 00:21:47,431 When I see a guy with swastika on his face, 421 00:21:47,474 --> 00:21:50,392 of course that's, like, a instant wall and fear. 422 00:21:53,396 --> 00:21:56,648 But when Kevin, the guy with the swastika, 423 00:21:56,691 --> 00:21:59,109 walked up for me to photograph him, 424 00:21:59,152 --> 00:22:02,488 I was like, "Wow, if I don't ask him now, 425 00:22:02,530 --> 00:22:06,533 "when in my life I would have the opportunity to ask, 426 00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:08,494 "'Hey, man, can I ask you what the fuck is this?' 427 00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:09,995 You know?" 428 00:22:13,583 --> 00:22:16,585 Of course I have fear. 429 00:22:16,628 --> 00:22:18,796 Also have boundaries. 430 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:22,132 My work every day push me to fight them. 431 00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:32,685 - Come around. Come around this side and paint your face. 432 00:22:32,727 --> 00:22:34,853 Go, go, go, go, go. 433 00:22:34,896 --> 00:22:36,855 - All right, guys, let's keep the rhythm. 434 00:22:36,898 --> 00:22:38,399 - I need some glue here. 435 00:22:38,441 --> 00:22:40,150 - In between lines, that's the most important, 436 00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:42,569 'cause that's where the wind will get it and fuck it up. 437 00:22:42,612 --> 00:22:43,821 - Yeah. 438 00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:45,698 - Oh, you see the first eye and ear. 439 00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:47,700 - What's going on? - Look at that. 440 00:22:47,742 --> 00:22:49,159 - That's his eye. He says that's his. 441 00:22:49,202 --> 00:22:53,414 - That's yours? Yes. First one up. 442 00:22:53,456 --> 00:22:55,833 [indistinct chatter] 443 00:23:00,130 --> 00:23:02,881 - If you see anything weird in here, just... 444 00:23:02,924 --> 00:23:05,509 [indistinct chatter] 445 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,852 - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 446 00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:16,854 Go all the way, all the way, all the way. 447 00:23:20,942 --> 00:23:24,445 - Right here? Right here? - Yeah. 448 00:23:24,487 --> 00:23:25,988 - Are you in there? - Yeah, right here. 449 00:23:26,031 --> 00:23:29,908 - That's right, you? Oh, my God. 450 00:23:29,951 --> 00:23:32,911 - Right here. - [laughs] 451 00:23:32,954 --> 00:23:34,788 Cassie, what are you doing? 452 00:23:34,831 --> 00:23:37,624 Yeah? She got the dream team. 453 00:23:37,667 --> 00:23:39,460 Come on, come on, come on. 454 00:23:39,502 --> 00:23:41,754 Keep the rhythm, guys. 455 00:23:41,796 --> 00:23:43,213 Every line, every line. 456 00:23:43,256 --> 00:23:44,465 How is it doing here? 457 00:23:44,507 --> 00:23:46,759 No line, no line, no line. Where's the crack? 458 00:23:46,801 --> 00:23:49,470 - Running low on glue. 459 00:23:49,512 --> 00:23:50,763 - Get cracking, boys. 460 00:23:50,805 --> 00:23:52,598 - Those cracks, those cracks. 461 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,518 Every detail like that adds something, actually. 462 00:23:56,561 --> 00:23:59,897 You know, people think it's done on the computer. 463 00:24:08,656 --> 00:24:11,158 Bringing you some extras. [laughs] 464 00:24:11,201 --> 00:24:14,119 - Just make sure that that glue is just right flat, Captain. 465 00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:19,708 - Out of everything, I never thought I would see this. 466 00:24:19,751 --> 00:24:21,627 - Teamwork, dream work. 467 00:24:21,670 --> 00:24:23,545 - Oh, come on, I got wind. I got wind. Come on. 468 00:24:23,588 --> 00:24:25,255 Oh, come on. 469 00:24:34,974 --> 00:24:37,184 [indistinct chatter] 470 00:24:37,227 --> 00:24:38,852 - Let's go! 471 00:24:38,895 --> 00:24:41,647 - That's the way. That's the way. 472 00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:43,732 The guys cleaned the yard yesterday. 473 00:24:43,775 --> 00:24:44,817 They say they cleaned the blood. 474 00:24:44,859 --> 00:24:46,985 They cleaned the tear gas. - Yeah. 475 00:24:47,028 --> 00:24:48,278 - It's hard to imagine there's violence 476 00:24:48,321 --> 00:24:49,279 every day on this yard. 477 00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:50,864 - Yeah. 478 00:24:50,907 --> 00:24:52,533 - How many guys you saw being stabbed here? 479 00:24:52,575 --> 00:24:54,952 - It's 11 years' worth. 480 00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:56,704 You know, I was raised here. 481 00:24:56,746 --> 00:24:58,997 I never really imagined that one day, you could get out 482 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,750 and do something that you're never even gonna believe. 483 00:25:01,793 --> 00:25:03,127 And the more we think like that, 484 00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:06,672 the more we're gonna be able to obtain those dreams. 485 00:25:06,715 --> 00:25:09,550 You know, people want to be this big 486 00:25:09,592 --> 00:25:10,884 from way up there. 487 00:25:10,927 --> 00:25:13,846 Know what I mean? We could see it. 488 00:25:13,888 --> 00:25:17,016 We want to be that big from way up there. 489 00:25:17,058 --> 00:25:19,977 And it doesn't take much. 490 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:22,896 Just a little hope, a little effort, and we got it. 491 00:25:22,939 --> 00:25:24,773 - And some paper. - And some paper. 492 00:25:24,816 --> 00:25:27,109 [laughter] 493 00:25:27,152 --> 00:25:30,279 - That's the crew right there. 494 00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:32,865 [laughs] 495 00:25:32,907 --> 00:25:35,868 Pizza time. Pizza. - Pizza time. 496 00:25:35,910 --> 00:25:37,202 - So I'm back in here. 497 00:25:37,245 --> 00:25:38,871 Oh, my God, look at these shadows. 498 00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:40,998 Let's turn this way. With Kevin. 499 00:25:41,041 --> 00:25:42,333 - How's it going? - Good. And you? 500 00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:43,792 - Good. 501 00:25:43,835 --> 00:25:46,045 - I put the portrait I took of you, you know, 502 00:25:46,087 --> 00:25:48,797 and--on social media, 503 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,215 and people were like, "Oh." 504 00:25:50,258 --> 00:25:54,011 They were really-- I think people 505 00:25:54,054 --> 00:25:55,179 were touched by your photo 506 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,890 because of the depth in your eyes 507 00:25:57,932 --> 00:25:59,266 and what you share 508 00:25:59,309 --> 00:26:01,810 and conflicted because of... - Yeah. 509 00:26:01,853 --> 00:26:03,270 - Your tattoo on your cheek. 510 00:26:03,313 --> 00:26:06,023 - Right, I understand that the symbols I wear 511 00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:08,067 represent hate to many people, 512 00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:09,068 and so people are automatically gonna have 513 00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:10,319 a conflict with that. 514 00:26:10,362 --> 00:26:11,403 When we come in here, 515 00:26:11,446 --> 00:26:13,155 we're forced to fight for our lives... 516 00:26:13,198 --> 00:26:15,199 - Yeah. - Against other races. 517 00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:17,368 I know it causes a lot of hurt in other people's hearts. 518 00:26:17,410 --> 00:26:19,620 And I know that if I could right now, 519 00:26:19,662 --> 00:26:21,955 I would remove it, you know what I mean, and-- 520 00:26:21,998 --> 00:26:24,041 - So if I find someone who help remove it... 521 00:26:24,084 --> 00:26:26,085 - Let's do it. - Let's do it? Okay. 522 00:26:26,127 --> 00:26:28,045 - Let's do it, dude. - So if anyone's out there, 523 00:26:28,088 --> 00:26:30,297 we're looking for someone who can help to remove this. 524 00:26:30,340 --> 00:26:32,925 - Please. I need that. - All right? 525 00:26:32,967 --> 00:26:37,054 [indistinct chatter] 526 00:26:37,097 --> 00:26:38,764 - Hard day's work. 527 00:26:38,807 --> 00:26:42,393 - We did it. - We did it, yeah. 528 00:26:42,435 --> 00:26:44,061 - My buddy Richie over there. Look at him smiling over there. 529 00:26:44,104 --> 00:26:45,354 - Just kicking it, man. 530 00:26:45,397 --> 00:26:47,106 I'm just having a good time. - Just kicking it. 531 00:26:47,148 --> 00:26:48,691 - I'm just the old guy right here, hanging out, 532 00:26:48,733 --> 00:26:51,068 having a good time, enjoying this, soaking this in. 533 00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:52,319 This is something, 534 00:26:52,362 --> 00:26:55,114 in my 25 years of being busted in CDC, 535 00:26:55,156 --> 00:26:57,199 I never thought I'd ever see: 536 00:26:57,242 --> 00:26:58,784 a collective group of individuals 537 00:26:58,827 --> 00:27:02,371 just come together for one purpose. 538 00:27:02,414 --> 00:27:04,665 - You water the garden at home, you know what I mean. 539 00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:06,250 - You got Mexicans working with Blacks and whites 540 00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:08,085 and everybody together, interacting. 541 00:27:08,128 --> 00:27:09,962 It's rare in--it's rare in the prison system. 542 00:27:10,005 --> 00:27:12,840 But for us to break that mold is big. 543 00:27:15,343 --> 00:27:18,303 It just shows everybody's willing to put all the hate 544 00:27:18,346 --> 00:27:20,347 and all the negativity behind us and work together 545 00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:22,975 with staff and everybody for a common goal, 546 00:27:23,018 --> 00:27:24,768 you know what I mean? 547 00:27:24,811 --> 00:27:26,311 [drone buzzing] 548 00:27:26,354 --> 00:27:28,981 - Oh, that's, like, a-- that's, like, a little plane. 549 00:27:29,024 --> 00:27:30,524 - I thought it was, like, a bird, though. 550 00:27:30,567 --> 00:27:33,444 This is the first time we ever seen a drone live like this. 551 00:28:30,877 --> 00:28:33,045 - You see? - Hey, check it out. 552 00:28:33,088 --> 00:28:34,755 - Yeah! - Yeah! 553 00:28:34,798 --> 00:28:36,298 - Whoa! 554 00:28:36,341 --> 00:28:37,966 - Aw, hell yeah. - That was cool. 555 00:28:38,009 --> 00:28:41,053 - Oh, that is so cool! 556 00:28:41,096 --> 00:28:43,430 - That's incredible. 557 00:28:43,473 --> 00:28:45,808 - [laughs] I see it right there, man. 558 00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:47,893 - Oh, that's so cool. 559 00:28:47,936 --> 00:28:49,436 - Congrats, everybody. 560 00:28:49,479 --> 00:28:53,399 [applause] 561 00:28:53,441 --> 00:28:54,525 Thank you, guys. 562 00:28:54,567 --> 00:28:55,567 Thank you. 563 00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:57,528 - Thank you. - Yeah, thank you, man. 564 00:28:57,570 --> 00:29:01,990 [indistinct chatter] 565 00:29:02,033 --> 00:29:03,450 - Yo, yo, yo, what you doing? 566 00:29:03,493 --> 00:29:10,332 - I'm trying to keep my eye. - [laughs] 567 00:29:10,375 --> 00:29:11,792 - I don't want to take it off the ground. 568 00:29:11,835 --> 00:29:13,460 I want to leave it there. I want it to stay. 569 00:29:13,503 --> 00:29:14,628 But as I'm tearing it, it felt good. 570 00:29:14,671 --> 00:29:17,881 I felt, like, something freeing, right? 571 00:29:17,924 --> 00:29:19,425 The process is what matter. 572 00:29:19,467 --> 00:29:22,553 I think that's what art is. It was that process. 573 00:29:22,595 --> 00:29:24,138 It wasn't just, oh, we took a picture, 574 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:25,848 or we drew a picture, or we sang a song. 575 00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:27,266 It was--man, that whole process 576 00:29:27,308 --> 00:29:29,143 of us being together and doing something, 577 00:29:29,185 --> 00:29:30,811 it's kind of beautiful and affected me, 578 00:29:30,854 --> 00:29:32,021 so I think that's art. 579 00:29:32,063 --> 00:29:35,357 That's what I learned from you artists. 580 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,443 - The process is what matter. 581 00:29:37,485 --> 00:29:39,236 It took me years to realize that, 582 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:43,907 and he was just realizing it in a heartbeat. 583 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:47,828 It stayed with me, because that reassured me 584 00:29:47,871 --> 00:29:57,963 I was keeping the right part of that whole journey. 585 00:29:58,006 --> 00:30:06,430 Whew! 586 00:30:06,473 --> 00:30:16,065 [exhales heavily] 587 00:30:16,107 --> 00:30:17,941 What's up, what's up, everyone? 588 00:30:17,984 --> 00:30:22,946 We're here in Paris, the top of 589 00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:28,494 Pshew! Boom. 590 00:30:28,536 --> 00:30:32,414 People always think graffiti just started, but look at this. 591 00:30:32,457 --> 00:30:36,960 Those are all graffiti from 1918, 1914, 592 00:30:37,003 --> 00:30:42,049 1846, 1923, 593 00:30:42,092 --> 00:30:45,427 and there's tons of people who want to exist and express 594 00:30:45,470 --> 00:30:48,305 and be seen and be remembered. 595 00:30:48,348 --> 00:30:56,897 I relate to that. 596 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:59,108 Growing up in the project outside Paris, 597 00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:00,317 I was only doing graffiti, 598 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,027 writing my names everywhere I can, 599 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:04,029 the tunnels, on the rooftops. 600 00:31:04,072 --> 00:31:06,532 [mysterious string music] 601 00:31:06,574 --> 00:31:08,659 It's not that I had to escape by the window. 602 00:31:08,702 --> 00:31:11,578 My parents were sleeping on the couch in the living room. 603 00:31:11,621 --> 00:31:14,456 They would just leave me the freedom. 604 00:31:14,499 --> 00:31:16,250 As a child of immigrants, 605 00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:19,920 I come from a family that never had a voice. 606 00:31:21,673 --> 00:31:24,133 I feel like I'm leaving a mark, 607 00:31:24,175 --> 00:31:25,342 because I would see. 608 00:31:33,018 --> 00:31:35,269 No one else would care, but then my friend would say, 609 00:31:35,311 --> 00:31:38,689 "Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw. You made that rooftop." 610 00:31:45,613 --> 00:31:47,656 One day, I was just at a train station in Paris 611 00:31:47,699 --> 00:31:51,952 waiting for my friend, and he was late. 612 00:31:51,995 --> 00:31:56,707 And at some point, I see the bag that was there. 613 00:31:56,750 --> 00:32:00,419 After two, three train, that bag was still there. 614 00:32:00,462 --> 00:32:04,715 So I open, and I see this camera. 615 00:32:04,758 --> 00:32:07,176 I took it. 616 00:32:07,218 --> 00:32:09,094 [camera shutter clicking] 617 00:32:09,137 --> 00:32:10,304 And I had that idea of, like, 618 00:32:10,347 --> 00:32:12,097 "I should document those adventures." 619 00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:13,390 [camera shutter clicks] 620 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:15,392 [smooth electronic music] 621 00:32:15,435 --> 00:32:17,561 I was documenting everything. 622 00:32:17,604 --> 00:32:20,105 I was documenting climbing those roofs. 623 00:32:20,148 --> 00:32:23,108 I was documenting those night experiences. 624 00:32:25,236 --> 00:32:26,278 And I loved it. 625 00:32:31,743 --> 00:32:33,702 I would just make photocopies of it, 626 00:32:33,745 --> 00:32:36,580 and I would just give it to the people I photograph. 627 00:32:39,584 --> 00:32:41,460 Then I was like, "Ah, I have those photocopies in hand. 628 00:32:41,503 --> 00:32:42,753 "Well, you know what? 629 00:32:42,796 --> 00:32:44,672 I can just paste one on the wall." 630 00:32:48,343 --> 00:32:49,677 But my photos were really small, 631 00:32:49,719 --> 00:32:52,304 so you wouldn't really notice them. 632 00:32:52,347 --> 00:32:54,765 So I started framing those photos. 633 00:32:57,727 --> 00:33:00,604 And I started noticing that people in suit and tie 634 00:33:00,647 --> 00:33:02,147 would stop and look at them. 635 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:04,233 If people don't like it, they can pee on it, 636 00:33:04,275 --> 00:33:06,443 scratch it, take it down. 637 00:33:06,486 --> 00:33:09,363 But if what you do creates reactions 638 00:33:09,406 --> 00:33:11,490 and even if people hate it, 639 00:33:11,533 --> 00:33:14,243 I'm happy, because it raise conversation. 640 00:33:22,836 --> 00:33:33,012 [all speaking french] 641 00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:43,605 [all speaking french] 642 00:33:43,648 --> 00:33:45,232 - JR. 643 00:34:04,127 --> 00:34:06,628 - When I started, it was called vandalism. 644 00:34:06,671 --> 00:34:08,756 Many times, we got arrested. 645 00:34:11,134 --> 00:34:13,635 One day, I went to the closest store, 646 00:34:13,678 --> 00:34:15,429 and I just put a hat and glasses, 647 00:34:15,472 --> 00:34:17,723 and I was like, "Oh, you know, maybe when I take them off, 648 00:34:17,766 --> 00:34:19,725 no one will recognize me." 649 00:34:21,895 --> 00:34:24,438 [French hip-hop music playing over radio] 650 00:34:24,481 --> 00:34:25,856 At that time, I thought that the whole world 651 00:34:25,899 --> 00:34:28,859 was just Paris and its surrounding. 652 00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:30,694 And then I met Ladj Ly, 653 00:34:30,737 --> 00:34:33,405 and he took me to a place I've never seen before. 654 00:34:36,326 --> 00:34:38,869 I met Ladj through Kourtrajm , collective of artists 655 00:34:38,912 --> 00:34:41,830 that were already making art, making graffiti. 656 00:34:41,873 --> 00:34:44,208 And I was pasting, and Ladj was filming. 657 00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:48,128 We had that kind of similar vibe, 658 00:34:48,171 --> 00:34:51,590 and we understood each other right away. 659 00:34:51,633 --> 00:34:55,427 One day, he took me to his neighborhood. 660 00:34:55,470 --> 00:34:57,846 It's a project like mine, 661 00:34:57,889 --> 00:35:00,432 but I've never seen a neighborhood like that. 662 00:35:00,475 --> 00:35:03,894 It was completely abandoned. 663 00:35:03,937 --> 00:35:14,446 - [speaking french] 664 00:35:14,489 --> 00:35:20,577 - [speaking french] 665 00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:30,629 [wings fluttering] 666 00:35:30,672 --> 00:35:42,933 [wings fluttering] 667 00:35:42,976 --> 00:35:52,860 - [speaking french] 668 00:35:52,902 --> 00:35:55,279 [somber music] 669 00:35:55,321 --> 00:35:56,613 - They built these buildings 670 00:35:56,656 --> 00:35:58,657 where you could be in Paris pretty quickly 671 00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:00,826 but still live in the countryside, 672 00:36:00,869 --> 00:36:04,830 because the train was going to run out there. 673 00:36:04,873 --> 00:36:07,750 But the train never came. 674 00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:10,961 Neither the highway. 675 00:36:11,004 --> 00:36:13,672 The real estate developers all left, 676 00:36:13,715 --> 00:36:16,383 and families that had less money came instead. 677 00:36:21,306 --> 00:36:24,767 The city said, "We have nothing to do with this." 678 00:36:24,809 --> 00:36:28,395 And that's what really drove people crazy. 679 00:36:29,731 --> 00:36:32,358 We're the forgotten of the forgotten. 680 00:36:51,336 --> 00:37:01,303 - [rapping in french] 681 00:37:06,309 --> 00:37:08,686 - At that time, Ladj was shooting a short film 682 00:37:08,728 --> 00:37:11,563 and asked to film me pasting. 683 00:37:11,606 --> 00:37:14,566 [hip-hop music] 684 00:37:16,861 --> 00:37:18,946 I was just pasting in his neighborhood. 685 00:37:18,988 --> 00:37:21,031 Someone said, "Hey, why don't you take us in photo?" 686 00:37:21,074 --> 00:37:22,908 And Ladj said, "Oh, yeah, yeah, take a photo of me." 687 00:37:22,951 --> 00:37:26,870 So boom, I take that photo. 688 00:37:26,913 --> 00:37:29,748 Everybody look at it and say, "You had a gun?" 689 00:37:29,791 --> 00:37:30,833 Like, "What are you talking about? 690 00:37:30,875 --> 00:37:32,376 "You were there. It's not a gun. 691 00:37:32,419 --> 00:37:33,585 It's my camera." 692 00:37:33,628 --> 00:37:34,503 "Oh, yeah, yeah, it's your camera. 693 00:37:34,546 --> 00:37:36,922 That's crazy." 694 00:37:36,965 --> 00:37:38,882 We just took all day of taking photo. 695 00:37:38,925 --> 00:37:40,968 - Talkin' 'bout the wanted brother 696 00:37:41,011 --> 00:37:43,303 - Talkin' 'bout the wanted brother 697 00:37:43,346 --> 00:37:45,055 - Hey, hey, hey, hey 698 00:37:46,516 --> 00:37:48,058 - Then we were there with all those photos, 699 00:37:48,101 --> 00:37:50,936 but we didn't know what to do with it. 700 00:37:50,979 --> 00:37:53,772 We looked around us, and there was all those buildings. 701 00:37:53,815 --> 00:37:55,441 "Let's cover those buildings. 702 00:37:55,483 --> 00:37:56,775 Let's just do it." 703 00:37:56,818 --> 00:37:58,318 - The wanted brother 704 00:37:58,361 --> 00:38:08,370 [all speaking french] 705 00:38:08,413 --> 00:38:17,421 [all speaking french] 706 00:38:17,464 --> 00:38:19,965 - Oh-oh! Oh-oh! Oh-oh! 707 00:38:20,008 --> 00:38:21,425 - We didn't want to get arrested, 708 00:38:21,468 --> 00:38:23,635 so we asked all the kids from the neighborhood 709 00:38:23,678 --> 00:38:25,637 to come and hang them by the pasting 710 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,681 so that the cops wouldn't stop us. 711 00:38:27,724 --> 00:38:30,768 When the cops would come by, there'll be, like, 100 of us, 712 00:38:30,810 --> 00:38:32,436 so it's not worth trying to stop 713 00:38:32,479 --> 00:38:34,355 whatever we were doing. 714 00:38:34,397 --> 00:38:37,107 [somber music] 715 00:38:40,737 --> 00:38:44,782 I never pasted an image so big. 716 00:38:44,824 --> 00:38:48,118 That was the first time. 717 00:38:48,161 --> 00:38:51,997 That photo, where Ladj hold his camera like a gun, 718 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,667 it's a photo that will follow us all our life. 719 00:39:30,036 --> 00:39:33,080 I kept on going back there over the years. 720 00:39:33,123 --> 00:39:43,132 That's where did all our projects. 721 00:39:43,174 --> 00:39:56,979 That's where did all our projects. 722 00:39:57,022 --> 00:40:00,065 - They're destroying the last building, the B5, 723 00:40:00,108 --> 00:40:05,070 where Ladj had grew up, to rebuild smaller buildings. 724 00:40:05,113 --> 00:40:09,616 This place is, for us, a seed of creation. 725 00:40:09,659 --> 00:40:12,453 Now we're running a school across the street from it. 726 00:40:12,495 --> 00:40:16,582 [indistinct chatter] 727 00:40:16,624 --> 00:40:18,167 It's not a school to, like, 728 00:40:18,209 --> 00:40:19,793 teach you how to become a good photographer 729 00:40:19,836 --> 00:40:21,128 or great painter 730 00:40:21,171 --> 00:40:23,088 but how to survive as an artist. 731 00:40:23,131 --> 00:40:24,673 And it's completely free. 732 00:40:24,716 --> 00:40:29,595 - [speaking french] 733 00:40:29,637 --> 00:40:31,555 - Surrounding yourself with people that come 734 00:40:31,598 --> 00:40:33,098 from different background, different stories, 735 00:40:33,141 --> 00:40:36,101 different paths, that's what nourished us. 736 00:40:36,144 --> 00:40:37,478 You guys should check how it is 737 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:47,529 and, like, see what you can take from it. 738 00:40:47,572 --> 00:40:57,623 and, like, see what you can take from it. 739 00:40:57,624 --> 00:41:02,711 and, like, see what you can take from it. 740 00:41:02,754 --> 00:41:12,763 [applause] 741 00:41:12,806 --> 00:41:22,856 [applause] 742 00:41:22,857 --> 00:41:28,278 [applause] 743 00:41:28,321 --> 00:41:33,992 [laughter] 744 00:41:34,035 --> 00:41:41,625 - [speaking french] 745 00:41:41,668 --> 00:41:43,836 [laughter] 746 00:41:43,878 --> 00:41:52,219 - [speaking french] 747 00:41:52,262 --> 00:42:02,271 [indistinct chatter] 748 00:42:02,313 --> 00:42:12,364 [indistinct chatter] 749 00:42:12,365 --> 00:42:22,291 [indistinct chatter] 750 00:42:22,334 --> 00:42:31,342 [indistinct chatter] 751 00:42:31,384 --> 00:42:41,560 [dramatic music] 752 00:42:41,603 --> 00:42:47,775 [dramatic music] 753 00:43:04,959 --> 00:43:14,927 - [speaking french] 754 00:43:14,969 --> 00:43:21,934 - [speaking french] 755 00:43:21,976 --> 00:43:34,738 [both speaking french] 756 00:43:47,168 --> 00:43:57,761 - [speaking french] 757 00:44:41,806 --> 00:44:51,815 [crowd clamoring] 758 00:44:51,858 --> 00:45:03,035 [crowd clamoring] 759 00:45:03,078 --> 00:45:05,162 [tense music] 760 00:45:05,205 --> 00:45:06,413 - [yelling in french] 761 00:45:21,846 --> 00:45:33,065 [people cheering] 762 00:45:40,115 --> 00:45:43,450 [people yelling] 763 00:46:15,984 --> 00:46:18,944 [siren wailing] 764 00:46:18,987 --> 00:46:29,413 [people yelling] 765 00:46:34,169 --> 00:46:44,970 - [speaking french] 766 00:47:31,601 --> 00:47:41,610 - [speaking french] 767 00:47:41,653 --> 00:47:51,704 - [speaking french] 768 00:47:51,705 --> 00:48:01,630 - [speaking french] 769 00:48:01,673 --> 00:48:09,054 - [speaking french] 770 00:48:09,097 --> 00:48:12,057 [French hip-hop music playing over radio] 771 00:48:54,684 --> 00:49:05,611 [dramatic music] 772 00:49:05,653 --> 00:49:19,208 [motor revving] 773 00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:21,085 [laughter] 774 00:49:21,127 --> 00:49:22,628 [grunts aggressively] 775 00:49:22,671 --> 00:49:28,300 [laughter] 776 00:49:28,343 --> 00:49:37,226 [indistinct chatter] 777 00:49:38,770 --> 00:49:46,318 - [speaking french] 778 00:49:46,361 --> 00:49:49,071 - [yells] 779 00:50:13,179 --> 00:50:18,809 - [speaking french] 780 00:50:52,135 --> 00:51:00,768 [water whooshing] 781 00:51:07,233 --> 00:51:15,532 - [speaking french] 782 00:51:15,575 --> 00:51:25,167 - [speaking french] 783 00:52:02,330 --> 00:52:14,925 - [speaking french] 784 00:52:14,968 --> 00:52:25,519 - [speaking french] 785 00:52:27,564 --> 00:52:38,365 - [speaking french] 786 00:52:41,369 --> 00:52:48,292 - [speaking french] 787 00:52:51,546 --> 00:53:01,513 - [speaking french] 788 00:53:01,556 --> 00:53:08,228 - [speaking french] 789 00:53:08,271 --> 00:53:18,280 - [speaking french] 790 00:53:18,323 --> 00:53:28,374 - [speaking french] 791 00:53:28,375 --> 00:53:38,300 - [speaking french] 792 00:53:38,343 --> 00:53:50,938 - [speaking french] 793 00:53:50,980 --> 00:54:00,989 [truck beeping] 794 00:54:01,032 --> 00:54:11,083 [truck beeping] 795 00:54:11,084 --> 00:54:24,346 [truck beeping] 796 00:54:24,389 --> 00:54:28,726 - [speaking french] 797 00:54:28,768 --> 00:54:38,777 - [speaking french] 798 00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:48,871 - [speaking french] 799 00:54:48,872 --> 00:54:58,797 - [speaking french] 800 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:08,891 - [speaking french] 801 00:55:08,892 --> 00:55:18,817 - [speaking french] 802 00:55:18,860 --> 00:55:28,911 - [speaking french] 803 00:55:28,912 --> 00:55:38,837 - [speaking french] 804 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:48,931 - [speaking french] 805 00:55:48,932 --> 00:55:58,857 - [speaking french] 806 00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:08,951 - [speaking french] 807 00:56:08,952 --> 00:56:18,877 - [speaking french] 808 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:28,971 - [speaking french] 809 00:56:28,972 --> 00:56:38,897 - [speaking french] 810 00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:45,738 - [speaking french] 811 00:57:05,633 --> 00:57:09,762 - Hey. Kevin. 812 00:57:09,804 --> 00:57:13,932 - What's up, man? How are you? 813 00:57:13,975 --> 00:57:15,684 - I'm good. I'm good. 814 00:57:15,727 --> 00:57:17,811 I'm in the middle of pasting right now. 815 00:57:17,854 --> 00:57:20,230 [laughs] Actually, with the team. 816 00:57:20,273 --> 00:57:21,607 - Yeah, yeah. 817 00:57:21,649 --> 00:57:23,067 - You know where I did my first pasting... 818 00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:24,151 - Yeah. - Where I did the photo 819 00:57:24,194 --> 00:57:25,569 of my friend with the camera? 820 00:57:25,612 --> 00:57:28,113 So I'm exactly right there. 821 00:57:28,156 --> 00:57:32,034 Everything has been rebuilt into smaller buildings. 822 00:57:32,077 --> 00:57:34,620 And the last giant building of the neighborhood 823 00:57:34,662 --> 00:57:35,829 is being destroyed. 824 00:57:35,872 --> 00:57:39,833 So we're pasting the entire building. 825 00:57:39,876 --> 00:57:50,719 - But how's everything over there? 826 00:57:50,762 --> 00:57:52,179 - Wow, but, you know, 827 00:57:52,222 --> 00:57:53,972 let's focus on the positive things. 828 00:57:54,015 --> 00:57:56,517 You're coming out very soon. That's crazy. 829 00:57:56,559 --> 00:57:58,560 And this whole swastika on your face 830 00:57:58,603 --> 00:58:08,612 will be an old story that you'll be telling. 831 00:58:08,655 --> 00:58:17,538 will be an old story that you'll be telling. 832 00:58:17,580 --> 00:58:20,290 [soft vocal music] 833 00:58:22,043 --> 00:58:23,961 - I've seen lots of negativity in my life. 834 00:58:24,004 --> 00:58:27,297 I've seen it. I know what it's like. 835 00:58:27,340 --> 00:58:31,176 It's just so much easier to find the dark side. 836 00:58:35,348 --> 00:58:37,891 Right now, it's only the primary necessity shops 837 00:58:37,934 --> 00:58:40,769 that are open. 838 00:58:40,812 --> 00:58:44,273 Everyone's just locked at home. 839 00:58:44,315 --> 00:58:47,109 The basic things that we need to survive 840 00:58:47,152 --> 00:58:50,863 is actually human contact and to get to know the other 841 00:58:50,905 --> 00:58:54,158 and to get to listen to the other. 842 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,327 It's something as important as eating. 843 00:59:01,291 --> 00:59:04,168 My work is just an excuse to create those encounters 844 00:59:04,210 --> 00:59:05,794 so that people who would normally 845 00:59:05,837 --> 00:59:07,921 never meet get to meet. 846 00:59:10,091 --> 00:59:12,343 It was only a year ago 847 00:59:12,385 --> 00:59:15,804 I was right here in Paris, pasting the entire Louvre. 848 00:59:17,390 --> 00:59:20,142 We had volunteers come from all over 849 00:59:20,185 --> 00:59:22,770 to paste this giant anamorph. 850 00:59:25,648 --> 00:59:27,024 400 people pasting it. 851 00:59:27,067 --> 00:59:28,901 People on the floor wondering what it is, 852 00:59:28,943 --> 00:59:30,235 looking at it. 853 00:59:42,874 --> 00:59:46,335 [cheers and applause] 854 00:59:46,378 --> 00:59:48,921 We were at a moment where we could all gather, 855 00:59:48,963 --> 00:59:50,631 where we could all share something. 856 00:59:50,674 --> 00:59:53,717 But that can all be taken away in a heartbeat. 857 01:00:00,016 --> 01:00:02,184 Often, I rush into doing projects 858 01:00:02,227 --> 01:00:06,063 because I think there will be no tomorrow to do them. 859 01:00:06,106 --> 01:00:08,941 This pandemic makes me focus on that even more. 860 01:00:12,862 --> 01:00:15,989 [birds chirping] 861 01:00:16,032 --> 01:00:17,950 One of my students, Paolo, just learned 862 01:00:17,992 --> 01:00:21,787 that because of the pandemic, he couldn't renew his visa, 863 01:00:21,830 --> 01:00:24,665 so he had to drop out of School Kourtrajm 864 01:00:24,708 --> 01:00:29,336 and go back to Brazil. 865 01:00:29,379 --> 01:00:34,967 [indistinct chatter] 866 01:00:35,010 --> 01:00:39,346 - [speaking french] 867 01:00:39,389 --> 01:00:40,180 So tell me. 868 01:00:40,223 --> 01:00:42,891 - Corona and visa problems, 869 01:00:42,934 --> 01:00:44,018 I have to go back to Brazil. 870 01:00:44,060 --> 01:00:45,811 - Wow. That's crazy. 871 01:00:45,854 --> 01:00:48,897 It's a burden that you cannot be with the students, 872 01:00:48,940 --> 01:00:50,899 you know, for the final show of the year 873 01:00:50,942 --> 01:00:52,443 and that you're forced to go back. 874 01:00:52,485 --> 01:00:58,115 But it's actually a big chance for us--I hope for you too-- 875 01:00:58,158 --> 01:01:00,826 to go there and connect with the two worlds. 876 01:01:00,869 --> 01:01:02,036 - Mm-hmm. 877 01:01:02,078 --> 01:01:04,121 - I went to Brazil when I was 23, 24. 878 01:01:04,164 --> 01:01:08,125 I don't actually remember, but there was an incident 879 01:01:08,168 --> 01:01:11,003 in--very violent incident in Rio 880 01:01:11,046 --> 01:01:13,005 in one of the favela called Provid ncia. 881 01:01:13,048 --> 01:01:14,173 - I remember. - You remember it. 882 01:01:14,215 --> 01:01:19,261 - [speaking portuguese] 883 01:01:19,304 --> 01:01:21,180 - Those three kids were just walking to school 884 01:01:21,222 --> 01:01:24,016 in the favela in Brazil, 885 01:01:24,059 --> 01:01:25,726 and they were arrested by the police. 886 01:01:25,769 --> 01:01:27,019 "Oh, you don't have your papers? 887 01:01:27,062 --> 01:01:28,354 Come with us." 888 01:01:28,396 --> 01:01:31,148 And the police sold them to an enemy favela, 889 01:01:31,191 --> 01:01:34,026 where they got killed and chopped into pieces. 890 01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:45,037 [somber music] 891 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:50,959 - [yelling in portuguese] 892 01:01:51,002 --> 01:01:52,211 [people chanting in portuguese] 893 01:01:52,253 --> 01:01:53,504 - Three kids being killed 894 01:01:53,546 --> 01:01:55,297 at the hands of the police in Brazil, 895 01:01:55,340 --> 01:01:58,967 it reminded me of the deaths of Zyed and Bouna 896 01:01:59,010 --> 01:02:00,511 in Montfermeil, Les Bosquets. 897 01:02:00,553 --> 01:02:04,223 But I'm not gonna just hear what the news is telling me. 898 01:02:04,265 --> 01:02:06,225 I want to hear it by myself. 899 01:02:06,267 --> 01:02:08,394 I want to meet those people. 900 01:02:08,436 --> 01:02:11,980 [dramatic music] 901 01:02:15,235 --> 01:02:17,444 So I went there, 2008. 902 01:02:19,823 --> 01:02:23,409 [children mimicking gunfire] 903 01:02:26,246 --> 01:02:31,542 - [speaking portuguese] 904 01:02:36,131 --> 01:02:37,548 - When I got there, I understood 905 01:02:37,590 --> 01:02:40,467 that it was a complicated favela. 906 01:02:40,510 --> 01:02:44,138 It's the home of the--one of the largest commando of drug 907 01:02:44,180 --> 01:02:45,556 called the Red Commando. 908 01:02:45,598 --> 01:02:48,559 [gunfire] 909 01:02:51,271 --> 01:02:53,272 The community, because of all the drug dealing, 910 01:02:53,314 --> 01:02:55,274 there are a lot of guns involved. 911 01:02:55,316 --> 01:02:59,236 - [speaking portuguese] 912 01:02:59,279 --> 01:03:02,865 - [speaking portuguese] 913 01:03:05,493 --> 01:03:09,038 I saw how impossible it was to walk in the favelas. 914 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,875 So I started taking photos on the edge of the favela. 915 01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:23,469 As I walked around, I met Rosiete, 916 01:03:23,511 --> 01:03:25,262 and she saw that I was clearly not from there, 917 01:03:25,305 --> 01:03:27,389 you know, that I was a gringo, like you say in Brazil, 918 01:03:27,432 --> 01:03:29,308 for foreigners. - Yes. 919 01:03:29,351 --> 01:03:32,144 - So she said, "What are you doing?" 920 01:03:32,187 --> 01:03:33,479 And I say, "Hey, I'm an artist. 921 01:03:33,521 --> 01:03:35,314 "I'm actually trying to do a project about women 922 01:03:35,357 --> 01:03:37,941 "and how they are the pillar of their community. 923 01:03:37,984 --> 01:03:39,610 "I've been working in Kenya, Liberia, 924 01:03:39,652 --> 01:03:41,945 Sierra Leone, and other countries." 925 01:03:44,115 --> 01:03:46,283 And she say, "Well, you know, we need art here. 926 01:03:46,326 --> 01:03:47,493 There's not enough art." 927 01:03:47,535 --> 01:03:49,078 And I was like, "Yeah, can I come?" 928 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,163 She says, "No. Go home. 929 01:03:51,206 --> 01:03:52,539 "Leave your bag. Leave everything. 930 01:03:52,582 --> 01:03:54,541 "Tomorrow, come back the same place. 931 01:03:54,584 --> 01:03:57,961 You see that street? Go up the street, all the way." 932 01:04:00,465 --> 01:04:01,965 "Anyone who stops you with a gun, 933 01:04:02,008 --> 01:04:04,551 you tell them you're coming to see Rosiete." 934 01:04:09,099 --> 01:04:10,432 When I got up there, 935 01:04:10,475 --> 01:04:12,518 she was waiting for me on the main square. 936 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,229 And she said, "We want to introduce you 937 01:04:15,271 --> 01:04:16,480 to someone from the community." 938 01:04:16,523 --> 01:04:18,899 I was like, "Yeah, sure. Who?" 939 01:04:18,942 --> 01:04:20,651 "His name is Mauricio. He's a photographer." 940 01:04:20,694 --> 01:04:22,444 So, you know, in my head, I'm like, 941 01:04:22,487 --> 01:04:24,655 "Okay, cool, but we don't really need a photographer. 942 01:04:24,698 --> 01:04:26,657 "I need to know how I can paste on the house. 943 01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:28,325 I want to take portraits." 944 01:04:28,368 --> 01:04:30,494 They're like, "No, you need to talk to Mauricio." 945 01:04:30,537 --> 01:04:32,246 So then Mauricio arrives. 946 01:04:32,288 --> 01:04:35,374 He's born there, raised there, knows everyone. 947 01:04:35,417 --> 01:04:38,377 Rather than explaining what I wanted to do, 948 01:04:38,420 --> 01:04:41,005 I took portraits that I had from other projects, 949 01:04:41,047 --> 01:04:42,548 and using my computer, 950 01:04:42,590 --> 01:04:46,468 I placed eyes on the house in Provid ncia. 951 01:04:46,511 --> 01:04:49,096 And I brought him that piece of paper. 952 01:04:49,139 --> 01:04:51,223 Then he understood. 953 01:04:51,266 --> 01:04:52,558 He smiled, because suddenly 954 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,144 it was a project on his favela. 955 01:04:55,186 --> 01:04:56,395 "Oh, you know this one?" 956 01:04:56,438 --> 01:04:58,981 "Yes, that's my neighbor." 957 01:05:00,275 --> 01:05:02,568 And we walked through the favela. 958 01:05:06,614 --> 01:05:08,282 He knocks at the door, and she said, 959 01:05:08,324 --> 01:05:10,117 "What's up, Mauricio? What can I do?" 960 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,370 "Nah, he wants to know if he can paste on your house." 961 01:05:13,413 --> 01:05:16,248 "Yeah, was it? Is it political?" 962 01:05:16,291 --> 01:05:17,499 "No, no, it's not political." 963 01:05:17,542 --> 01:05:19,960 "Is it gonna damage my house?" 964 01:05:20,003 --> 01:05:21,628 "No, no." "Okay, then come in. 965 01:05:21,671 --> 01:05:23,630 You want to--you want to do it now?" 966 01:05:23,673 --> 01:05:25,299 "Oh, no, no, no. We're not ready. 967 01:05:25,342 --> 01:05:27,051 He's just--I'm asking if you want." 968 01:05:27,093 --> 01:05:30,095 "Of course! Why do you bother? Just come and do it." 969 01:05:30,138 --> 01:05:34,641 So I take the paper, and I go, fwt, checked. 970 01:05:34,684 --> 01:05:38,062 So then we went to the next house. 971 01:05:38,104 --> 01:05:39,188 Check. 972 01:05:42,233 --> 01:05:43,442 Maybe Saturday or Sunday, 973 01:05:43,485 --> 01:05:44,610 because her husband was working, 974 01:05:44,652 --> 01:05:46,570 so we'd have the answer on the weekend. 975 01:05:48,448 --> 01:05:50,032 Most of the people were like, "Sure! Do it." 976 01:05:56,122 --> 01:05:57,414 Mauricio said, "Okay, 977 01:05:57,457 --> 01:06:02,086 you need to meet the head of the drug dealers." 978 01:06:02,128 --> 01:06:06,548 So one night, we walk down the favela. 979 01:06:06,591 --> 01:06:10,719 Kids with machine guns, grenades, bulletproof jackets. 980 01:06:10,762 --> 01:06:12,554 We arrive, and there was three leaders, 981 01:06:12,597 --> 01:06:14,473 and they ask us straightaway, 982 01:06:14,516 --> 01:06:16,016 "So yo, who are you? What do you want?" 983 01:06:16,059 --> 01:06:17,601 And we say, "Oh, no, we're artists from France." 984 01:06:17,644 --> 01:06:19,019 And I'm there, and I'm with Ladj. 985 01:06:19,062 --> 01:06:20,729 He came with me. And we have our computer. 986 01:06:20,772 --> 01:06:22,690 And I say, "Okay, look, this is what we've done 987 01:06:22,732 --> 01:06:24,358 in the favelas of France, you know?" 988 01:06:24,401 --> 01:06:27,152 And they look, and it's like, "What? This is not a favela. 989 01:06:27,195 --> 01:06:28,445 This is the richest building." 990 01:06:28,488 --> 01:06:29,571 "Oh, yeah, yeah, okay." 991 01:06:29,614 --> 01:06:31,323 I show them Israel-Palestine project. 992 01:06:31,366 --> 01:06:32,616 This project right here. - Mm-hmm. 993 01:06:32,659 --> 01:06:35,160 - We pasted the wall in Israel-Palestine. 994 01:06:35,203 --> 01:06:40,249 And one of the guys say, "What is Israel-Palestine?" 995 01:06:40,291 --> 01:06:42,042 They never heard of it. 996 01:06:42,085 --> 01:06:43,627 And I couldn't find a bridge to explain to them 997 01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:44,712 what were the other projects. 998 01:06:44,754 --> 01:06:45,879 So I closed it, and we're like, 999 01:06:45,922 --> 01:06:47,506 "Okay, look, this is what we want to do. 1000 01:06:47,549 --> 01:06:49,383 We took those photos. We want to paste them." 1001 01:06:49,426 --> 01:06:50,801 [indistinct chatter] 1002 01:06:50,844 --> 01:06:54,263 The next day, we started pasting the stair. 1003 01:06:54,305 --> 01:06:58,267 The stair is actually right in the heart of the favela. 1004 01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:59,685 You can't see it from outside. 1005 01:06:59,728 --> 01:07:02,354 It's just something that only the locals can see. 1006 01:07:02,397 --> 01:07:04,481 So we paste. It's a beautiful day. 1007 01:07:04,524 --> 01:07:05,607 And then suddenly... 1008 01:07:05,650 --> 01:07:12,489 [gunshots] - [speaking portuguese] 1009 01:07:12,532 --> 01:07:25,085 [all speaking portuguese] 1010 01:07:25,128 --> 01:07:27,296 Police comes up. Drug dealers replied. 1011 01:07:27,339 --> 01:07:28,547 We're in the middle of that. 1012 01:07:28,590 --> 01:07:30,549 - [speaking portuguese] 1013 01:07:30,592 --> 01:07:32,176 - Ladj is filming down the stairs, 1014 01:07:32,218 --> 01:07:33,510 and pop-pop, pop-pop, 1015 01:07:33,553 --> 01:07:35,220 and, like, start shooting from all over. 1016 01:07:35,263 --> 01:07:45,272 [all speaking portuguese] 1017 01:07:45,315 --> 01:07:55,366 [all speaking portuguese] 1018 01:07:55,367 --> 01:08:05,292 [all speaking portuguese] 1019 01:08:05,335 --> 01:08:10,339 [all speaking portuguese] 1020 01:08:10,382 --> 01:08:12,841 - And then couple hours later, 1021 01:08:12,884 --> 01:08:17,179 life had started like nothing happened. 1022 01:08:17,222 --> 01:08:19,264 And the next day, we come back and continue. 1023 01:08:31,361 --> 01:08:41,620 - [speaking portuguese] 1024 01:08:41,663 --> 01:08:44,289 - The first image was the grandmother 1025 01:08:44,332 --> 01:08:45,916 of one of the three kids. 1026 01:08:54,676 --> 01:08:55,801 Everyone understood. 1027 01:08:55,844 --> 01:08:57,469 They understood what it was for. 1028 01:08:57,512 --> 01:08:59,471 There was no need to explain. There was no text to put. 1029 01:08:59,514 --> 01:09:02,307 They knew what it meant. 1030 01:09:21,578 --> 01:09:31,587 - [speaking portuguese] 1031 01:09:31,629 --> 01:09:41,680 - [speaking portuguese] 1032 01:09:41,681 --> 01:09:51,607 - [speaking portuguese] 1033 01:09:51,649 --> 01:09:57,279 - [speaking portuguese] 1034 01:10:55,547 --> 01:11:10,060 - [speaking portuguese] 1035 01:11:48,933 --> 01:11:52,644 - That's when we left. 1036 01:11:52,687 --> 01:11:54,355 I didn't want to do any interview. 1037 01:11:54,397 --> 01:11:57,983 I wanted the women to tell their own story. 1038 01:11:58,026 --> 01:12:01,362 [dogs barking] 1039 01:12:01,404 --> 01:12:10,662 - [speaking portuguese] 1040 01:12:10,705 --> 01:12:15,542 [women singing in portuguese] 1041 01:12:15,585 --> 01:12:25,594 [all speaking portuguese] 1042 01:12:25,637 --> 01:12:31,517 [all speaking portuguese] 1043 01:12:39,901 --> 01:12:49,910 [indistinct chatter, laughter] 1044 01:12:49,953 --> 01:13:00,004 [indistinct chatter, laughter] 1045 01:13:00,005 --> 01:13:13,767 [indistinct chatter, laughter] 1046 01:13:13,810 --> 01:13:23,819 [indistinct chatter] 1047 01:13:23,862 --> 01:13:36,790 [indistinct chatter] 1048 01:15:07,716 --> 01:15:10,884 [rain pattering] 1049 01:15:37,162 --> 01:15:39,913 - When I was back in Brazil a couple months after, 1050 01:15:39,956 --> 01:15:42,333 the people in the favela were telling me, 1051 01:15:42,375 --> 01:15:45,919 "JR, there's no school there. There's no NGO. 1052 01:15:45,962 --> 01:15:48,005 There's nothing. You have to do one." 1053 01:15:48,048 --> 01:15:49,298 And I was 24. 1054 01:15:49,341 --> 01:15:51,050 "What, you want me to create a school? 1055 01:15:51,092 --> 01:15:52,634 Like, I can't do that." 1056 01:15:52,677 --> 01:15:55,054 Mauricio kept calling me: "JR, there's this house. 1057 01:15:55,096 --> 01:15:56,305 "This house is empty 1058 01:15:56,348 --> 01:15:58,140 "because it keeps receiving bullets 1059 01:15:58,183 --> 01:16:01,018 "from the different shootings, so no one wants it, 1060 01:16:01,061 --> 01:16:02,770 "and the old man wants to sell it. 1061 01:16:02,812 --> 01:16:03,937 You should buy it." 1062 01:16:03,980 --> 01:16:05,272 So I gathered the money, and I went there. 1063 01:16:05,315 --> 01:16:07,691 I actually taped the money on my body. 1064 01:16:07,734 --> 01:16:11,362 And I walked up and bought the house from the old man. 1065 01:16:11,404 --> 01:16:14,073 The first thing we did when we got the house 1066 01:16:14,115 --> 01:16:16,283 was go down the hill to the paint shop 1067 01:16:16,326 --> 01:16:18,952 and bought all the yellow they had, 1068 01:16:18,995 --> 01:16:21,246 'cause there was a sale that day on the yellow. 1069 01:16:21,289 --> 01:16:23,916 And we called the house Casa Amarela, 1070 01:16:23,958 --> 01:16:26,377 the Yellow House. 1071 01:16:26,419 --> 01:16:30,047 That's it. And then we had no problem. 1072 01:16:30,090 --> 01:16:31,965 [indistinct chatter] 1073 01:16:32,008 --> 01:16:35,719 - [speaking portuguese] 1074 01:16:35,762 --> 01:16:37,930 [all speaking portuguese] 1075 01:16:37,972 --> 01:16:50,859 - Yuri. 1076 01:16:50,902 --> 01:16:52,653 - Mariana. 1077 01:16:52,696 --> 01:16:54,947 - There was no chairs, no tables, nothing. 1078 01:16:54,989 --> 01:16:56,365 So our best idea was, like, 1079 01:16:56,408 --> 01:16:58,826 "Oh, let's give a camera" to the kids. 1080 01:16:58,868 --> 01:17:03,997 [speaking portuguese] 1081 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:16,010 - [speaking portuguese] 1082 01:17:16,052 --> 01:17:26,812 - [speaking portuguese] 1083 01:17:26,855 --> 01:17:29,148 [upbeat music] 1084 01:17:29,190 --> 01:17:31,692 [people singing in portuguese] 1085 01:17:45,957 --> 01:17:50,753 [all speaking portuguese] 1086 01:18:06,227 --> 01:18:09,396 - [speaking portuguese] 1087 01:18:20,867 --> 01:18:22,076 [laughter] 1088 01:18:35,799 --> 01:18:37,508 - [speaking portuguese] 1089 01:18:44,933 --> 01:18:47,476 - Everyone took photos of the family and stuff, 1090 01:18:47,519 --> 01:18:49,228 and we pasted it, and then we decided 1091 01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:52,356 to celebrate the launch of Casa Amarela. 1092 01:18:52,399 --> 01:18:54,483 I thought it would be amazing 1093 01:18:54,526 --> 01:18:57,236 if we actually get the people from the city 1094 01:18:57,278 --> 01:18:58,779 to come up there, people who live there 1095 01:18:58,822 --> 01:19:00,989 and see the favela every day and never been up there. 1096 01:19:03,535 --> 01:19:05,244 And we went and see the drug dealer, and we say, 1097 01:19:05,286 --> 01:19:08,414 "Okay, tonight we want to launch this house, 1098 01:19:08,456 --> 01:19:09,957 "and we want people from the city 1099 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,459 "to be able to come in. 1100 01:19:12,502 --> 01:19:13,877 "Can we ask you a favor? 1101 01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,463 Is that there'll be no guns on the stairs?" 1102 01:19:16,506 --> 01:19:19,008 And they're like, "Ah, we don't know if that's possible. 1103 01:19:19,050 --> 01:19:20,259 We'll see." 1104 01:19:20,301 --> 01:19:22,970 [hip-hop music playing] 1105 01:19:25,306 --> 01:19:28,392 - [singing in portuguese] 1106 01:19:36,317 --> 01:19:39,903 - A lot of people came, people who live in Rio 1107 01:19:39,946 --> 01:19:43,115 but have never put a foot in Provid ncia before. 1108 01:19:43,158 --> 01:19:46,118 [fireworks popping] 1109 01:19:46,161 --> 01:19:47,369 And that night, I'll never forget, 1110 01:19:47,412 --> 01:19:49,455 this time, I walk up, they raise their shirt, 1111 01:19:49,497 --> 01:19:52,124 and they turn around, back and front, 1112 01:19:52,167 --> 01:19:53,500 show me they had no gun. 1113 01:19:53,543 --> 01:19:55,586 [dramatic music] 1114 01:19:55,628 --> 01:20:00,591 That's the moment I realize how culture have a huge power. 1115 01:20:02,302 --> 01:20:04,845 Those guys don't know anything about art, 1116 01:20:04,888 --> 01:20:07,139 but they had seen what we've done, 1117 01:20:07,182 --> 01:20:10,434 and they accept to take up their gun for an opening. 1118 01:20:10,477 --> 01:20:12,895 I would have never imagined that. 1119 01:20:39,381 --> 01:20:41,298 [cheers and applause] 1120 01:20:45,136 --> 01:20:46,970 - Ten years now. It's been ten years. 1121 01:20:47,013 --> 01:20:48,347 We built everything ourself. 1122 01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:52,184 The class, the boards, everything is handmade. 1123 01:20:52,227 --> 01:20:54,061 I brought two friends, one from Japan, 1124 01:20:54,104 --> 01:20:55,521 one from the U.S., 1125 01:20:55,563 --> 01:20:57,523 and they covered the entire house 1126 01:20:57,565 --> 01:21:01,527 like if a tree went in and out of the doors. 1127 01:21:01,569 --> 01:21:03,362 We were just trying to keep going 1128 01:21:03,405 --> 01:21:05,656 and with better years than others. 1129 01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:20,212 How do you show those kids another path than drugs? 1130 01:21:20,255 --> 01:21:21,964 And we couldn't do it for every kid. 1131 01:21:22,007 --> 01:21:25,259 A lot of those kids ended up being drug dealers. 1132 01:21:25,301 --> 01:21:27,136 [both speaking portuguese] 1133 01:21:27,178 --> 01:21:29,346 - That's him right there. 1134 01:21:29,389 --> 01:21:30,639 And if you look at that photo, 1135 01:21:30,682 --> 01:21:33,225 he's the only one who survived, all those kids. 1136 01:21:33,268 --> 01:21:36,228 Most of them went into drug dealing or died. 1137 01:21:36,271 --> 01:21:38,480 That's just the reality of life. 1138 01:21:38,523 --> 01:21:41,358 Art will not save everyone and everything. 1139 01:21:42,986 --> 01:21:45,362 But when these projects shine all over the world, 1140 01:21:45,405 --> 01:21:47,114 showing a positive message 1141 01:21:47,157 --> 01:21:48,615 for once for one of those places, 1142 01:21:48,658 --> 01:21:51,160 then they understood the power of art. 1143 01:21:51,202 --> 01:21:53,245 What happened is, the mayor saw this favela-- 1144 01:21:53,288 --> 01:21:57,499 the one he had wished, before, didn't exist--on TV every day 1145 01:21:57,542 --> 01:22:00,544 but this time, for positive things. 1146 01:22:00,587 --> 01:22:02,671 So he send the garbage truck. 1147 01:22:02,714 --> 01:22:05,174 Then he send electricity: "Let's redo those cables." 1148 01:22:05,216 --> 01:22:07,259 So since then, a lot of things had happened. 1149 01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:12,181 But we were struggling to bring artists there. 1150 01:22:12,223 --> 01:22:13,599 It's really hard to get people 1151 01:22:13,641 --> 01:22:15,642 past the fear of going in a place 1152 01:22:15,685 --> 01:22:18,103 where there is all this violence. 1153 01:22:20,148 --> 01:22:22,441 I looked at them, I'm like, "Well, we're in here. 1154 01:22:22,484 --> 01:22:25,194 "The police, the states don't come 1155 01:22:25,236 --> 01:22:26,445 "and ask us any question. 1156 01:22:26,488 --> 01:22:28,614 We can do whatever we want." 1157 01:22:28,656 --> 01:22:30,282 I went to see my neighbor, and I say, 1158 01:22:30,325 --> 01:22:31,617 "Excuse me, I have a question for you. 1159 01:22:31,659 --> 01:22:35,746 What happen if we build something in the sky?" 1160 01:22:35,789 --> 01:22:36,914 Said, "Well, I don't care. 1161 01:22:36,956 --> 01:22:38,457 "You know, as long as it doesn't impact me, 1162 01:22:38,500 --> 01:22:40,542 do whatever you want." 1163 01:22:40,585 --> 01:22:42,544 So I said, "Well, I want to build a moon up there 1164 01:22:42,587 --> 01:22:44,588 "that everyone sees it from all over the city. 1165 01:22:44,631 --> 01:22:46,465 "And I want that moon to be a bedroom 1166 01:22:46,508 --> 01:22:49,301 "so an artist-- you when you'll go there-- 1167 01:22:49,344 --> 01:22:50,761 "everyone that will come and donate time 1168 01:22:50,804 --> 01:22:52,429 to the kids can sleep up there." 1169 01:22:52,472 --> 01:22:54,765 [tools banging] 1170 01:22:54,808 --> 01:22:57,768 [indistinct chatter] 1171 01:23:05,735 --> 01:23:07,653 Gonna open the lock. 1172 01:23:11,491 --> 01:23:15,119 And it's open. 1173 01:23:15,161 --> 01:23:17,496 This is the moon, guys. 1174 01:23:17,539 --> 01:23:20,457 This is my favorite place, where the teachers who come 1175 01:23:20,500 --> 01:23:25,796 and give class in the school can come in and sleep. 1176 01:23:25,839 --> 01:23:28,465 There's even AC in there. 1177 01:23:28,508 --> 01:23:31,802 And then if you open... 1178 01:23:38,852 --> 01:23:43,147 What's up, baby? 1179 01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:44,732 That's really top of the moon. 1180 01:23:58,580 --> 01:24:00,789 There are limits that we all have within ourself, 1181 01:24:00,832 --> 01:24:03,667 limits about what we think is possible 1182 01:24:03,710 --> 01:24:05,794 and what we think is not. 1183 01:24:05,837 --> 01:24:07,755 I have those too. 1184 01:24:07,797 --> 01:24:10,716 And yet people constantly show me that these limits 1185 01:24:10,759 --> 01:24:13,510 are not where we think they are. 1186 01:24:13,553 --> 01:24:15,763 They're way further. 1187 01:24:20,852 --> 01:24:28,567 [machinery whirring] 1188 01:24:28,610 --> 01:24:38,619 [all speaking french] 1189 01:24:38,661 --> 01:24:48,712 [all speaking french] 1190 01:24:48,713 --> 01:24:58,639 [all speaking french] 1191 01:24:58,682 --> 01:25:08,732 [all speaking french] 1192 01:25:08,733 --> 01:25:21,620 [all speaking french] 1193 01:25:21,663 --> 01:25:25,457 [camera shutter clicking] 1194 01:25:25,500 --> 01:25:28,460 [soft vocal music] 1195 01:26:28,313 --> 01:26:30,522 [debris crashing] 1196 01:27:01,763 --> 01:27:04,723 It's not only about the art. 1197 01:27:04,766 --> 01:27:06,892 It's about the people. 1198 01:27:17,654 --> 01:27:19,279 My friend Agn s Varda believed 1199 01:27:19,322 --> 01:27:22,366 that inside of each person is a landscape. 1200 01:27:26,079 --> 01:27:30,040 I would say that within all landscapes, 1201 01:27:30,083 --> 01:27:32,584 behind all walls, 1202 01:27:32,627 --> 01:27:34,503 are people. 1203 01:28:02,574 --> 01:28:05,534 [uplifting music] 1204 01:28:23,970 --> 01:28:29,058 [speaking french] 1205 01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:30,476 - Wow. 1206 01:28:30,518 --> 01:28:31,518 [applause] 1207 01:28:51,414 --> 01:28:53,666 [speaking french] 1208 01:29:49,931 --> 01:29:51,432 Art Spiegelman wrote a book 1209 01:29:51,474 --> 01:29:53,892 about his parents' experience in Auschwitz. 1210 01:29:53,935 --> 01:29:56,020 He signed it for Kevin. 1211 01:29:56,062 --> 01:29:57,980 And Kevin's right there. He want to say something. 1212 01:29:58,023 --> 01:29:59,440 - Thank you very much, Art. 1213 01:29:59,482 --> 01:30:01,734 And I do look forward to meeting you one day. 1214 01:30:01,776 --> 01:30:04,778 - For sure. - For sure. For sure. 1215 01:30:04,821 --> 01:30:08,032 Without the tattoo. [laughter] 1216 01:30:10,702 --> 01:30:12,202 - Come on, give me some French. 1217 01:30:12,245 --> 01:30:14,496 - [speaking french] 1218 01:30:14,539 --> 01:30:17,166 [laughter] 1219 01:30:17,208 --> 01:30:20,627 - Damn. That's a good group. Right there. 1220 01:30:22,505 --> 01:30:25,674 Okay, let me run to-- from the point of view. 1221 01:30:28,094 --> 01:30:31,805 And that's what it look like. 1222 01:30:31,848 --> 01:30:34,933 No more walls. Yeah! 1223 01:30:34,976 --> 01:30:37,519 - Whoo! - [whistles] 1224 01:30:47,739 --> 01:30:50,657 [bright music]