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>> I felt this connection
with everything,

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especially with nature.

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>> I have understood for a
long time that change is part

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of the essential nature of the
universe and that I've always

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been afraid of change.

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But today, I felt deeply
that change is a gift.

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>> I wish I could
put it into words.

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It was a sense of connectedness
that runs through all of us

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and also a sense of the strength
of it and the power of it.

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>> Mystical experience has been
a part of human nature as far

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as we know.

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And most major religions
and religion traditions,

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at the core, were about
a mystical experience.

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Mysticism is unlike a belief
in something or knowledge

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based on what someone tells you.

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It's the direct
experience of that thing,

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what's been called the ground of
being, to quote, Paul Tillich,

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or all that is, [NON-ENGLISH]
in Hinduism, or in Christianity,

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Christ-consciousness.

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It's a direct
experience with all

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that is with nature, with
God, as some would call it.

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>> The word psychedelic
means "mind manifesting,"

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and it came from a poem.

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"To fathom hell
or sorrow angelic,

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just take a pinch
of psychedelic."

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>> The word psychedelic
was coined by a psychiatric

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researcher named Humphry Osmond
in a letter to author Aldous

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Huxley in 1956, before
Timothy Leary, Ken Kesey,

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or the hippie movement.

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And yet the use of
psychedelics goes back long

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before the 20th century.

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For as long as humans have
been roaming the Earth,

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they've ingested and worshipped
these mysterious plants.

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>> In the 16th and
17th centuries,

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when the Spanish conquistadors
arrived in the New World,

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they were horrified
by what they observed.

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They saw the native people
using a vast pharmacopeia

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of native plants for purposes
of healing and divination.

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And this was
entirely in conflict

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with the orthodox,
rigid belief system

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that conquistadors
brought with them.

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>> The mushroom ceremonies
happened at night.

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They involved invoking
spirits, divining the future,

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looking for lost things.

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And there were women who were
doing the ceremonies as well

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as men.

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So so many things,
probably, about that culture

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was shocking.

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And certainly, in
Christianity, the power

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is given to priests who
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And so the thing that is
scary about psychedelics

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is that it gives power
directly to people.

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>> The inquisition,
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formally condemned the use
of hallucinogenic plants

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and stated that the punishment
for anyone who would use such

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plants, whether they be
natives or immigrant Spaniards,

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was death by the cruelest
methods available.

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>> 1938.

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[ENGINES WHINING]

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>> In 1938, as Europe stood
on the brink of world war,

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a chemist working for a
pharmaceutical company

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in Switzerland made a
most unusual discovery,

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one that would alter the
course of human events to come.

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>> Albert Hofmann was,
from a young person,

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very focused on nature, kind
of a nature mystic almost.

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And he worked at Sandoz
Pharmaceutical Companies.

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And they were looking-- in
1938 is when he invented LSD.

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It was also from ergot,
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grows on wheat and barley.

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He was looking at
various compounds

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where he could start
with what was in ergot

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and manipulate them
in different ways.

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And LSD-25 was the
25th variation.

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And in 1943, five
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had what he called a peculiar
presentiment that there was

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something worthwhile in LSD-25.

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>> He accidentally
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because you don't need that much
LSD to get into your system.

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And he had a really
unexpected experience.

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It wasn't anything
that blew his mind,

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but it was enough that
he paid attention.

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>> It was on a Friday.

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And so he went home
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And on Monday,
April 19, 1943, he

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decided that he would
do a planned experiment,

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and he would take
an amount that he

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said was so small that he
thought nothing would happen.

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But he wanted to
be extra cautious.

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And that turned out
to be 250 micrograms,

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250 millionths of a gram.

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>> Which 100 micrograms is
usually enough for someone

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who's naive to LSD to have
a full-blown experience.

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>> Some of the symptoms
occurred immediately,

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and very soon to become very,
very strong, very intense.

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And I became anxious, and I
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to accompany me home.

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And then, we went home by
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and of course, I had no car.

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And I reported about
this bicycle ride

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because I had the feeling
that time would stand still.

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>> It's quite an
extraordinary property of LSD,

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and yet that's a very,
very deep meaning.

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If you have such a deep
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of your consciousness,
of your senses,

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LSD must attack the very center
of our psychic existence.

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>> Hofmann feared that his
nightmare would never end,

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that he had permanently
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and wondered what his wife and
children would think when they

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returned home to find a
madman in the living room.

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Slowly, the effects wore off.

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And after a night's rest,
he entered his garden,

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where everything was
teeming with life.

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>> Woke up the next day and
felt refreshed, rejuvenated.

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He found things to be
novel and interesting.

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He went back to the lab to
figure out what had happened.

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Nobody had thought that anything
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could create an effect.

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But in fact, he discovered
this very potent compound.

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And then, Sandoz Pharmaceuticals
tested it in animals

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for safety and
toxicity, then tested it

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in some of the members of
Sandoz Pharmaceuticals.

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>> But in 1943, Hofmann became
temporarily psychotic through

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accidental ingestion
of the drug.

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The door swung wide
open for research

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into the nature of the
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and in a larger sense, into
the biochemistry of psychosis.

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>> They believed that it might
be a tool to help psychiatrists

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understand the inner
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or schizophrenic patients.

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So they packaged samples
of LSD and shipped them out

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to the leading psychiatric
researchers around the world.

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>> I'm going to give you this
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acid, 100 microgram.

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>> --suggesting that they
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that it was a
psychotomimetic drug,

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that it would induce the kind
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their patients were going
through and would better help

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them understand and so
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>> How you feel?

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>> Well, I feel very fine.

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I feel very buoyant and
light and resilient.

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I feel as though this
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I have a feeling
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resting against this chair.

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And I see flashes of
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I see this rug,
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to have an awful
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of violet and yellow.

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It seems to feel that
I'm going to watch it.

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>> Now, as it turned out, the
experience is not at all like

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what the inner experience
of a schizophrenic is.

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>> Now, when you look at
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Close your eyes, and just
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>> There it is.

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I feel these lovely colors
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Oh, it's lovely.

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>> Any lines?

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>> Oh.

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>> Any forms?

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>> Just like the
shimmering water, you know?

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>> You can put
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Come on.

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Describe it.

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>> Oh, I don't know.

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>> Hmm?

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>> It's just giving, and--

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you don't know.

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You want to give yourself--

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you want to give yourself
as much as you can.

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>> There's all sorts of things
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experience.

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One thing is that the
5-HT2A receptor, which

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is the psychedelic receptor, is
being stimulated quite a bit.

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And that's mostly serotonin.

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But then it turns out
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the 5-HT2A receptor
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creates a receptor couple
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system, which is oxytocin.

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They form what's called a dimer.

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They dimerize, and they
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there's a lot of oxytocin,
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and you're bonding with them.

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With a mother who's
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and there's like
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oxytocin is there for that.

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>> I feel very benevolent.

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I mean, I feel as though I
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And this is very lovely.

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>> And that sense of oneness and
unity and connection signifies

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sort of the peak of a
psychedelic experience.

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>> The insight that I was
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and classic Buddhist meditation
was similar to the insight that

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I'd finally arrived
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The lesson was
form is emptiness.

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There's a sense of
emptiness and transitoriness

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in all perceived phenomena.

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And there's no need
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hung up on any thought
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And there is no enlightenment,
no wisdom, no illumination,

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no god, no identity, no
self, no reference point,

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that any grabbing for a
reference point is vain.

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And that's one of
the first things

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you think when you
get high anyway,

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that even if you
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you'd be seeing the same
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acid is not necessary.

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[HORN HONKS]

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>> In the early 1950s, as LSD
research was in its infancy,

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little was known in the West
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psychedelics.

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In 1953, author
Aldous Huxley was

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given mescaline, the active
ingredient in the peyote

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cactus, under the supervision
of psychiatrist Humphry Osmond.

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Huxley later wrote about this
experience in the seminal book

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"The Doors of Perception."

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And in New York City, a
very unlikely character

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helped bridge the gap between
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and modern America.

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>> R. Gordon Wasson was a
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and banker.

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He was a vice
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As a young man, he met his
future wife, Valentina,

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who was Russian.

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And she had a great interest and
enthusiasm for the collection

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of edible mushrooms.

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>> While on their honeymoon
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Valentina leaped with excitement
after spying a cluster of wild

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mushrooms growing in the forest.

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She sounded off the
species name in Russian

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and insisted that they prepare
them for dinner that night.

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Wasson, of Anglo-Saxon
heritage, was brought up

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to believe mushrooms were
poison and was horrified

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at his wife's enthusiasm.

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This difference in
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became the catalyst for Wasson's
lifelong interest in mycology,

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or the study of fungi.

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>> And then, in the early
'50s, a friend of his wrote him

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a letter suggesting he look
into an extant mushroom cult

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in the central
highlands of Mexico,

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where he had heard that there
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mushrooms.

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Now, this came as quite
a surprise to Wasson

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because at this
time, the early '50s,

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it was not believed that
there were such things

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as hallucinogenic mushrooms.

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>> We went into the Mazatec
area far from the highways,

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remote from Mexico City.

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There we found that
rotten bagasse,

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as it's called, bagasso,
covered with mushrooms.

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These mushrooms I didn't
know, had never seen.

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They were the sacred mushrooms.

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>> After much difficulty,
and by some accounts,

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manipulation on
the part of Wasson,

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he eventually found entry into
a velada, or mushroom ceremony.

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The curandera, or
healer, was a woman

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named Maria Sabina,
who represented

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a long line of
underground healers

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left intact since the
days of Spanish conquest.

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[MUSICAL CHANTING]

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>> And we were seeing
incredible sights.

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All your senses
are rendered acute.

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We say that you see visions.

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You see hallucinations.

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But that doesn't begin
to tell the story.

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The hallucinations
are only part of it.

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You hear sounds.

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You smell things.

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The night was thrilling.

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>> The visions were not
blurred or uncertain.

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I felt that I was
now seeing plain,

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whereas ordinary vision
gives us an imperfect view.

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I was seeing the archetypes,
the Platonic ideas

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that underlie the imperfect
images of everyday life.

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The thought crossed my mind.

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Could the divine
mushrooms be the secret

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that lay behind the
ancient mysteries?

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Could the miraculous
mobility that I was now

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enjoying be the explanation
for the flying witches that

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played so important a part
in the folklore and fairy

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tales of northern Europe?

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These reflections passed through
my mind at the very same time

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that I was seeing the visions.

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For the effect of
the mushrooms is

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to bring about a vision of the
spirit, a split in the person,

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a kind of schizophrenia.

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>> Unbeknownst to Wasson,
his trips to Mexico were

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infiltrated by a group with
more nefarious interests

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in the mind-altering
effects of psychedelics.

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>> In their neverending
search for the miracle weapon,

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CIA operatives searched here
in the remote mountain areas

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of southern Mexico for what
up to then had been considered

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a myth, magic mushrooms.

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>> And so Gordon Wasson was
unwittingly participating

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in this sort of military
use of psychedelics.

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>> They used this man, a
part-time chemist with the CIA,

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to dupe this man, a
vice president of a bank

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and an amateur mycologist,
or mushroom expert,

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to try to get to the magic
mushrooms and turn them

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into a drug.

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>> They gave it to several
different chemists to try

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to figure out what was in it,
and nobody could figure it out.

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And so they called
on Albert Hofmann,

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since he had invented LSD.

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And they asked him
could he figure out

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what was in the mushroom
that made it so psychedelic.

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>> It would be the amateur,
R. Gordon Wasson and his

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colleagues, who would win
the race and develop the drug

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psilocybin from the
magic mushrooms.

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>> I think that is very
strange that LSD is not just

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a laboratory product.

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It is closely related with
this old Indian magic drug.

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That means that LSD belongs
pharmacologically, chemically,

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to the group of the sacred
magic plants of Mexico.

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It's a very important finding.

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>> Wasson was friends
with Henry Boothe Luce,

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who was the publisher
of "Life Magazine."

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He told his friend Luce
about his experience,

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and Luce encouraged him
to write up his account.

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That was really the first word
out to Western civilization

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that psychedelic mushrooms
indeed existed at all.

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And it really stimulated
growing interest

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and led to the psychedelic
explosion of the '60s.

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>> Wasson's influence became due
in large part to an enigmatic

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Harvard psychologist
named Timothy Leary.

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Though he became known as the
most dangerous man in America,

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he might have been described
by others in the year 1960

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as a New England square,
a hard-drinking Irishman,

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or by himself, an atheist
psychologist in the midst

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of a midlife crisis.

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>> Timothy Leary was a
very prominent researcher

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at Harvard.

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His California
Personality Inventory

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is still being used today.

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He was sort of a pied piper.

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>> During his early
years at Harvard,

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Leary was in the throes
of personal crisis.

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His first wife had committed
suicide on his 35th birthday,

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reportedly after a
strained open marriage.

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It was during this time
that he described himself

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as an anonymous
institutional employee who

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drove to work each morning in
a long line of commuter cars

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and drove home each
night and drank Martinis,

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like several million
middle-class,

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liberal, intellectual robots.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Inspired by Wasson's article,
Leary traveled down to Mexico

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with a colleague in
1960 who had found

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some mushrooms from a
curandero in the mountains.

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Leary later said
that he learned more

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about the brain and
its possibilities,

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and more about psychology,
in the five hours

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after taking the mushrooms
than he had in the preceding 15

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years of studying and doing
research in psychology.

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>> When he got back to Harvard,
he got permission to do

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research with psilocybin.

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>> And that was the beginning of
the Harvard Psilocybin Research

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Project.

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And that was really
the beginning

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of formal research,
attempted clinical research,

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of psychedelic agents
in the United States.

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>> Timothy Leary had two
research products that could go

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to the Harvard Psilocybin
Research Program.

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It was a Good Friday
study with Walter Pahnke.

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It was a remarkable
study and groundbreaking.

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They had given
psilocybin and a placebo

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to 20 graduate
students in theology,

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comparing their experiences to
genuine mystical experiences

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found throughout millennia,
through mystics and saints.

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>> They arranged to have
access to the Marsh Chapel.

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It was Good Friday.

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They were in a basement chapel.

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And the service from
upstairs in the main chapel

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was being piped through.

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[ORGAN PLAYING]

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>> The Reverend Howard
Thurman was the minister,

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who was Martin Luther
King's mentor--

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this incredible dynamic
speaker, orator.

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>> You, Pilate, standing for
Rome, are the universal coward.

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I, standing for the kingdom of
God, have braved everything,

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lost everything, and
won an eternal crown.

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>> They developed a scale
of mystical experience.

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Some of the items are a noetic
quality, intuitive quality

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of understanding things,
transcendence of time and space

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as we know it, a sense of
unity with all living things

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internally as well.

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>> I shall die.

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But that is all that
I shall do for death.

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>> Of the 20
experimental students,

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nine out of the 20 people
had a mystical experience.

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And eight out of those
nine had the psilocybin.

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>> It was the first study
showing that these agents,

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these medicines,
these sacraments,

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can produce an experience that
was found throughout millennia

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in various religious traditions.

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>> One young man had
a kind of nervous--

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I was going to say
nervous breakdown,

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but it was actually
positive for him.

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So he was so blown away by
this spiritual experience

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he was having that he kind
of ran out of the chapel.

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And he was trying to
run to the, I think,

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the dean or the president's
office to proclaim everything

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that he had learned.

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>> And behaved rather bizarrely
out in public until the sitters

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found him and retrieved
him and brought him back.

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>> And he actually had to be
sedated with a tranquilizer.

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So that's kind of an
interesting piece of history

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that didn't get reported.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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>> The object of this
presentation is to demonstrate

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the effect of MER-17,
a new blocking agent,

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against the development
of LSD-25 psychosis.

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We have used two healthy
graduate students in psychology

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as subjects.

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>> When Sandoz discovered the
psychoactive effects of LSD,

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they also observed that it
deepens sort of introspective

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insight and can be
used in psychotherapy.

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>> So it's a really unique
history in the area of drug

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research in that there was a
heyday of psychedelic research

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extending from the 1950s
through the early '70s.

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>> Back then, any psychiatric
researcher or clinician could

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write Sandoz to get a sample
of LSD to test it or to use it

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clinically.

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It was legal and available.

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And that really began
the big experiment

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with LSD that lasted
close to 30 years.

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>> In carefully
controlled experiments,

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interesting results have been
reported on the therapeutic use

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of LSD with the mentally
ill, the drug addict,

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the terminal cancer patient, and
in the VA hospital in Topeka,

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Kansas, a special research
program for alcoholics.

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>> We bring them
in on one Monday,

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and they spend one week of
getting acquainted and having

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all the tests and
examinations done.

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The second Monday, we
give them a small dose

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of LSD in the five-man
ward, together.

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Then, the third Monday,
we give them a larger dose

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individually and have
each one of them cared

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for by one of these teams.

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And this is where we aim for
the so-called psychedelic

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experience.

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>> The best clinical outcomes
are with subjects who,

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during the course of what
was often just a one-session

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treatment, during that session,
had a psychospiritual epiphany,

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a mystical-level experience.

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>> I know I kept fighting
the religious music.

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I didn't know why
then, but Dr. Koren

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kept urging me to find out
why I was fighting this.

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And I remember I was just
really scared to death.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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And I just reached up,
and it was like somebody

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grabbed me and brought me up.

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And I interpret this as for
the first time in my life,

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I wanted love.

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And I think this is the thing
that was probably my biggest

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problem is that I thought
everybody was forcing it on me,

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and I wasn't going to let them.

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>> The amazing thing about LSD
is very much its evolutionary

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nature, is that it seems
to concentrate in areas

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of the brain that relate to
mammalian and reptilian stages

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of evolutionary development
which are then experienced

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by the person, the fact also
that people become aware

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of the fact that man is not
just a single-dimensional being

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in a physical body but
exists as a being over many,

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many lifetimes at many levels
of consciousness beyond

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the physical.

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And I do feel that,
in the future,

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there will be
centers where people

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will be able to go to prepare
people for any kind of turning

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point or crisis in their
life, such as along the lines

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of the incredible
powerful research

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that Stan Grof and Walter Pahnke
did at Spring Grove Hospital

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with terminal cancer patients.

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>> This is a mental institution,
Spring Grove State Hospital

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in Baltimore.

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It is one of four places
in the country where

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research on LSD
treatment continues

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under federal sponsorship.

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The tablets in Ott's hand each
contain a microscopic trace

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of LSD.

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To an observer, the atmosphere
seems closer to faith healing

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than medicine.

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>> So the way in which they
really refined the approach is

494
00:26:24,690 --> 00:26:28,440
that they used a two-person
team, often a male-female.

495
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,470
They pioneered eight-hour
therapy sessions, sometimes

496
00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:33,100
even longer.

497
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:37,050
It was this very expressive,
supportive environment.

498
00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:40,440
>> It isn't so much the drug
as the drug in the context

499
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,410
in which it's used,
the expectations,

500
00:26:43,410 --> 00:26:46,020
how the person is held
safely while they're under

501
00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:48,480
the influence of it, and the
interpretation that's made

502
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,830
afterwards.

503
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:51,840
>> I was here under LSD.

504
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,680
This went on for a million
miles on both sides,

505
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,000
an endless deep
and eternity onto.

506
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,360
And it was just one of
the fears I had buried,

507
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,030
and it was a fear
of being left alone.

508
00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:08,220
>> We get very stuck in
our ways and sort of rigid

509
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:09,150
in our thinking.

510
00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:10,692
One of the things
the psychedelics do

511
00:27:10,692 --> 00:27:13,860
is they increase
cognitive flexibility.

512
00:27:13,860 --> 00:27:16,620
You become less rigid in
how you think they quiet

513
00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:19,140
down the default
mode network, which

514
00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:23,390
is sort of the self-obsessed,
self-serving, how am I doing?

515
00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:24,190
Who am I?

516
00:27:24,190 --> 00:27:25,730
Am I liked?

517
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:26,730
What did I do yesterday?

518
00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:28,022
What am I going to do tomorrow?

519
00:27:28,022 --> 00:27:31,050
And the psychedelics sort
of quiet this narcissism

520
00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:34,440
and neuroticism and allow
other parts of the brain

521
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320
to get more active or to
connect with each other.

522
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,820
>> I feel beautiful.

523
00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:40,170
>> All right.

524
00:27:40,170 --> 00:27:43,020
>> I feel squashed
with beautiful.

525
00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:50,940
>> That's a really powerful,
useful experience to have.

526
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:53,550
And it can help people
out of a dark place.

527
00:27:53,550 --> 00:27:55,440
>> If you hadn't
been prepared for it,

528
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,160
if you hadn't gone through
those weeks of preparation,

529
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,070
would LSD have meant as much?

530
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:06,420
>> If I was ill before, I would
have been ill, it seems to me,

531
00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:08,160
beyond repair.

532
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,540
I would have been so
frightened without the guidance

533
00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:14,640
and the trust and
the preparation.

534
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,665
It would have been
a tragedy, horrible.

535
00:28:24,140 --> 00:28:28,580
>> I got interested in LSD
therapy when I was in two-year

536
00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:32,240
public health service at the
public health prison hospital

537
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,590
in Lexington, Kentucky.

538
00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:37,170
At that time, there was
really no good treatment

539
00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:39,090
for narcotic addiction.

540
00:28:39,090 --> 00:28:41,550
Recidivism rate was
extraordinarily high.

541
00:28:41,550 --> 00:28:45,900
I think people leaving Lexington
had a 90% relapse rate.

542
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:49,960
And I had read about the
studies with alcoholism.

543
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,890
And I thought
perhaps LSD might be

544
00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:57,660
useful to provide some lasting
change for narcotic addiction.

545
00:28:57,660 --> 00:29:00,720
In looking at the
literature at that time,

546
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,940
it looked like
that therapists who

547
00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:09,030
had used LSD themselves got much
better results than therapists

548
00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:11,200
who had not used LSD themselves.

549
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,370
So I decided to do
a controlled study.

550
00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:19,140
I would give LSD to a group of
narcotic addicts at Lexington

551
00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:22,650
who volunteered for the study,
without having ever taken LSD

552
00:29:22,650 --> 00:29:27,600
myself, to see what impact
that the experience might have

553
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,270
on their relation
with other prisoners,

554
00:29:30,270 --> 00:29:34,900
with authority figures, with
insight about themselves.

555
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:38,850
And then, my plan was to
then take the LSD myself

556
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:42,720
under supervision from staff at
the Addiction Research Center

557
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,540
there who were
experienced with the agent

558
00:29:45,540 --> 00:29:48,690
and do a second group.

559
00:29:48,690 --> 00:29:51,920
But unfortunately, when I
was getting ready to do that,

560
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,930
the company that made LSD,
Sandoz, decided to recall it.

561
00:29:56,930 --> 00:30:02,270
This was around 1965,
1966, because LSD

562
00:30:02,270 --> 00:30:04,004
had become a street drug.

563
00:30:04,004 --> 00:30:06,374
[HORNS BLARING]

564
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,570
>> And on streets like this,
transactions involving me take

565
00:30:14,570 --> 00:30:16,720
place all the time--

566
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,450
illegal, of course, but
my tabs and caps and sugar

567
00:30:20,450 --> 00:30:23,840
cubes that dissolve in your
mind as well as your mouth

568
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,180
are selling every day.

569
00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:31,280
Drop a cap on me,
man, and drop out.

570
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:36,080
But watch it, because the
trip can be a trap, too.

571
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,680
You never know where a
ticket with me will take you.

572
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,900
>> Just as pioneers of
psychedelic research were

573
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:44,720
beginning to understand
its therapeutic potential,

574
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,320
LSD began to leak out
of the laboratory.

575
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,080
The two figures most
responsible for its expansion

576
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,890
into the American culture lived
on opposite ends of the country

577
00:30:54,890 --> 00:30:57,740
and were from equally
different backgrounds.

578
00:30:57,740 --> 00:31:00,980
On the West Coast, Ken
Kesey was introduced to LSD

579
00:31:00,980 --> 00:31:06,260
in the late 1950s as part of
the CIA's MK-Ultra program.

580
00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:08,370
>> At the time, I was
training for the Olympics.

581
00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:09,990
I made it to be an alternate.

582
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:10,790
>> As a wrestler?

583
00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:11,780
>> Yeah, as a wrestler.

584
00:31:11,780 --> 00:31:15,020
I'd never been drunk on beer,
let alone done any drugs.

585
00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:17,030
But this is the
American government.

586
00:31:17,030 --> 00:31:18,990
I had a neighbor who
was a psychologist.

587
00:31:18,990 --> 00:31:21,390
He was booked to do the
experiments that Tuesday.

588
00:31:21,390 --> 00:31:22,190
He chickened out.

589
00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:23,570
He says, you want
to do them? $20.

590
00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:24,110
Show up.

591
00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:25,020
They gave them to me.

592
00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:28,963
I did them on every Tuesday
for six or eight months.

593
00:31:28,963 --> 00:31:31,130
The government wanted
somebody to look in that room.

594
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:32,270
They said, hey, we
got a great room.

595
00:31:32,270 --> 00:31:33,830
We discovered this nice room.

596
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:36,320
Let's get somebody to go
in there and look it over.

597
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,480
>> Kesey would go on
to write "One Flew over

598
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,930
the Cuckoo's Nest" partly
based on these experiences,

599
00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:45,380
and later, to host the so-called
acid tests with the Merry

600
00:31:45,380 --> 00:31:46,250
Pranksters.

601
00:31:46,250 --> 00:31:49,370
>> And by that time, the
government had said, OK,

602
00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:50,303
stop that experiment.

603
00:31:50,303 --> 00:31:52,970
All these guinea pigs that we've
sent up there into outer space,

604
00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:54,410
bring them back
down, and don't ever

605
00:31:54,410 --> 00:31:56,452
let them go back up there
again, because we don't

606
00:31:56,452 --> 00:31:57,840
like the look in their eyes.

607
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,630
>> I give the CIA total credit
for sponsoring and initiating

608
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:06,830
the entire consciousness
movement counterculture events

609
00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:08,330
of the 1960s.

610
00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:10,580
>> And on the East
Coast was Timothy Leary,

611
00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:13,340
the now-former
Harvard psychologist.

612
00:32:13,340 --> 00:32:16,620
>> He began to distribute
the drug beyond his research

613
00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:17,420
subjects.

614
00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:20,090
He began to speak quite
openly to the press.

615
00:32:20,090 --> 00:32:23,810
>> He signed an agreement
promising that he would not

616
00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:27,770
give it to any undergraduate
students but only to graduate

617
00:32:27,770 --> 00:32:32,570
students who were using it
for some appropriate academic

618
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:33,440
purpose.

619
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,040
>> And Tim Leary honestly--

620
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,040
I don't think he ever met
a rule he didn't like.

621
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,230
And that rule
quickly was broken.

622
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:41,270
The Harvard
Administration found out

623
00:32:41,270 --> 00:32:43,190
and summarily dismissed him.

624
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:49,490
>> And he became the apostle
preaching the religion

625
00:32:49,490 --> 00:32:52,310
of psychedelic drugs.

626
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:56,570
>> We teach the science
and art of ecstasy.

627
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:59,180
We teach people how
to turn on or how

628
00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:01,430
to go out of their minds.

629
00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:04,580
By turn on, we
mean tune in to get

630
00:33:04,580 --> 00:33:08,960
beyond your routine
ways of thinking

631
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,700
and acting and experiencing.

632
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:14,060
We often say that we're teaching
people how to use their head.

633
00:33:14,060 --> 00:33:17,377
The point is that in
order to use your head,

634
00:33:17,377 --> 00:33:18,710
you have to go out of your mind.

635
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,090
>> What were your feelings
when people like Timothy Leary

636
00:33:25,090 --> 00:33:26,290
and Ken Kesey--

637
00:33:26,290 --> 00:33:30,340
Ken Kesey with his pranksters
and Timothy Leary, obviously,

638
00:33:30,340 --> 00:33:32,380
with tune in, turn
on, drop out, what

639
00:33:32,380 --> 00:33:35,435
were your feelings, as the
chemist who had created this?

640
00:33:35,435 --> 00:33:39,050
>> I was quite astonished,
because when I had discovered

641
00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:43,900
these very deep effects of LSD,
never would I have believed

642
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:46,657
that it would be a pleasure
drug on the street--

643
00:33:46,657 --> 00:33:47,740
never would have believed.

644
00:33:47,740 --> 00:33:51,010
The indians believe that you
should take the mushrooms

645
00:33:51,010 --> 00:33:53,740
only if you are prepared.

646
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:56,770
And then only do the
mushrooms bring you

647
00:33:56,770 --> 00:33:58,690
in contact with the gods.

648
00:33:58,690 --> 00:34:02,770
If you are not prepared,
then it makes you crazy,

649
00:34:02,770 --> 00:34:05,170
or you may even die.

650
00:34:05,170 --> 00:34:08,425
That is a belief of the
Indians based on thousands

651
00:34:08,425 --> 00:34:10,179
of years of experience.

652
00:34:13,230 --> 00:34:17,429
>> Drugs are subversive, and
psychedelics are the most

653
00:34:17,429 --> 00:34:19,350
subversive of all the drugs.

654
00:34:19,350 --> 00:34:21,570
And he was labeled
most dangerous man

655
00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:26,550
in America because of these very
powerful and very subversive

656
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:28,409
drugs and ideas.

657
00:34:28,409 --> 00:34:31,570
>> Many of my colleagues have
maintained a rather harsh view

658
00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:32,370
of Leary.

659
00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:34,679
They blame him
for the repression

660
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,572
of psychedelic
research in the '60s.

661
00:34:37,572 --> 00:34:39,030
We shouldn't lose
sight of the fact

662
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:41,580
of the degree to which
psychedelics in the culture

663
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:45,870
were associated with a very
vigorous antiwar movement.

664
00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:47,850
>> The kind of turn
on, tune in, drop out,

665
00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:49,517
that phrase gets a bad rap.

666
00:34:49,517 --> 00:34:51,600
But if you look at what
was happening at the time,

667
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,969
I think the call
was for young people

668
00:34:53,969 --> 00:34:56,265
to not buy into the status quo.

669
00:34:56,265 --> 00:34:58,353
[MUSIC PLAYING]

670
00:34:58,353 --> 00:35:00,770
>> Some people talk about the
counterculture as being this

671
00:35:00,770 --> 00:35:03,530
romantic, even
religious movement,

672
00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:06,410
that you're talking about using
these means to free yourself up

673
00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:09,350
from the distractions of the
world so that you can transcend

674
00:35:09,350 --> 00:35:12,320
it and think about ultimate
questions about human

675
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,280
existence.

676
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,550
And that's really what Leary
was totally talking about.

677
00:35:18,807 --> 00:35:20,890
>> What we're thinking
about is a peaceful planet.

678
00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:22,245
We're not thinking
about any kind of power.

679
00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:24,570
We're not thinking about
revolution or war or any

680
00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:25,980
of that.

681
00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:27,630
We would all like
to be able to live

682
00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:31,080
an uncluttered life, a
simple life, a good life,

683
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,041
and think about moving the
whole human race ahead a step.

684
00:35:35,041 --> 00:35:36,845
[MUSIC PLAYING]

685
00:35:38,650 --> 00:35:40,300
>> They're taking
it in sugar cubes.

686
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:41,920
It's being dropped
into their punch.

687
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,420
They're going to institutions.

688
00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:46,921
They're swell for the
rest of their life.

689
00:35:46,921 --> 00:35:47,855
[GASP]

690
00:35:47,855 --> 00:35:50,660
[SCREAM]

691
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:55,730
>> God, no, no, no, no!

692
00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:58,170
>> Authorities felt they
had a public health crisis

693
00:35:58,170 --> 00:35:58,970
on their hands.

694
00:35:58,970 --> 00:36:01,250
And these were also
catalysts for change.

695
00:36:01,250 --> 00:36:02,990
And the changes
they were inducing

696
00:36:02,990 --> 00:36:05,600
were often perceived in
a very threatening manner

697
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,980
by those in authority.

698
00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:12,200
>> This moral decay weakens
our resistance to the onslaught

699
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,110
of the communist
masters of deceit.

700
00:36:15,110 --> 00:36:16,940
>> We've got to do
something about this.

701
00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:17,750
Don't you think so?

702
00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:25,870
>> The drug war is based on
demonizing drugs and demonizing

703
00:36:25,870 --> 00:36:27,190
drug users.

704
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:29,620
Nixon said that the two
main enemies that he had

705
00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:32,710
were the Civil Rights
Movement and the hippies.

706
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:36,280
And so while you couldn't
criminalize the ideas

707
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,810
that they were
struggling for, you

708
00:36:37,810 --> 00:36:40,210
could criminalize the
drugs that they were using.

709
00:36:40,210 --> 00:36:43,720
>> We must wage what I have
called total war against public

710
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,420
enemy number one in
the United States,

711
00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:47,740
the problem of dangerous drugs.

712
00:36:50,770 --> 00:36:54,580
>> Richard Nixon declared war
on drugs, and Congress, in 1970,

713
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:56,260
passed the Controlled
Substance Act,

714
00:36:56,260 --> 00:36:58,840
which essentially put all
serotonergic hallucinogens,

715
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,170
like LSD and psilocybin, into
this very restrictive category

716
00:37:02,170 --> 00:37:06,400
of Schedule I, which means
highest addictive liability,

717
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,650
no therapeutic utility.

718
00:37:08,650 --> 00:37:11,440
And that was really the
beginning of the war on drugs

719
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,870
that we now have for
the last 40 years, which

720
00:37:13,870 --> 00:37:17,360
has created a real problem.

721
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,910
>> At the time, something like
123 million prescriptions were

722
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:23,180
written by psychiatrists and
doctors for tranquilizers.

723
00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:25,370
And more people are
killed in car crashes

724
00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:29,420
because they're drunk
then die because of LSD.

725
00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:33,050
What kind of drugs are OK and
what aren't is a very political

726
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:34,250
question.

727
00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:37,970
>> Abuse of hard drugs began to
replace mind-expanding agents,

728
00:37:37,970 --> 00:37:41,690
and LSD faded from the culture
almost as quickly as it had

729
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:42,800
exploded into it.

730
00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:51,630
By the 1970s, all remaining
psychedelic studies

731
00:37:51,630 --> 00:37:54,160
had been shut down.

732
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,490
>> In 1972, '73,
I had left school,

733
00:37:57,490 --> 00:38:02,170
and I got a job as a research
assistant in a dream research

734
00:38:02,170 --> 00:38:05,390
study at Maimonides
Medical Center in Brooklyn.

735
00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:10,480
And my job was to stay up all
night and monitor sleep EEGs.

736
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,480
And every time our
subject went into a dream,

737
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,010
I would wake them up
over an intercom system,

738
00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:17,960
ask them what was going
through their mind,

739
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,840
and tape record the dreams.

740
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,990
But this also meant I had a
lot of time during the night,

741
00:38:22,990 --> 00:38:25,030
and I love to read.

742
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:28,600
And one of the researchers
in his office, he

743
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,970
had a tremendous collection
of books and articles

744
00:38:30,970 --> 00:38:32,440
on psychedelics.

745
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,840
And I read voraciously.

746
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,180
Now, at that time,
my father was very

747
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:39,850
concerned about what he thought
was my lack of direction.

748
00:38:39,850 --> 00:38:42,130
And he had told me
that when I figure out

749
00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:44,830
what I wanted to do with
my life, I should call him.

750
00:38:44,830 --> 00:38:47,080
It didn't matter what time
of the day or night it was.

751
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,700
He wanted me to call him.

752
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:52,060
So there I was, at 2 or
3 o'clock in the morning,

753
00:38:52,060 --> 00:38:55,190
just so impressed by
what they had done.

754
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:56,980
I felt I wanted to do this also.

755
00:38:56,980 --> 00:39:00,220
I woke him up from a deep
sleep, and I said, Dad,

756
00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:01,820
I figured out what I want to do.

757
00:39:01,820 --> 00:39:03,550
And he said, well,
what's that, son?

758
00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:06,230
I said, I want to
study psychedelics.

759
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:07,060
Well, why is that?

760
00:39:07,060 --> 00:39:08,690
Well, they're fascinating.

761
00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:12,580
There's so much we could
learn about the brain, about

762
00:39:12,580 --> 00:39:15,040
the mind-brain interface,
about mental illness.

763
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,830
And there are these
extraordinary treatment models.

764
00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:21,310
And people who conventional
treatments cannot help or help

765
00:39:21,310 --> 00:39:22,390
with this model.

766
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:25,030
And he said, well,
son, there might

767
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:26,950
be something to what you say.

768
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:29,860
But no one will listen
to you unless you

769
00:39:29,860 --> 00:39:31,300
get your credentials.

770
00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:44,860
My personal background
really has a lot

771
00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:49,910
to do with Timothy Leary and the
use of psychedelics in society.

772
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:53,270
I had been born Jewish in 1953.

773
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:55,430
I was raised on stories
of the Holocaust.

774
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:57,620
And then, as a young
boy, I was involved

775
00:39:57,620 --> 00:40:02,080
in going to school during
the Cuban Missile Crisis.

776
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,090
This idea that there
could be nuclear war

777
00:40:04,090 --> 00:40:09,340
and wipe out civilization
was also very traumatizing.

778
00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:11,170
The final step for
me was Vietnam,

779
00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:13,660
and I was in the last
years of the lottery.

780
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:17,440
And I was a Vietnam War
protester, a draft resister.

781
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,740
And so I first tried
LSD in '71, but I

782
00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:22,340
had a very difficult time.

783
00:40:22,340 --> 00:40:25,682
And I couldn't really handle
my psychedelic experiences.

784
00:40:25,682 --> 00:40:27,640
I went to the guidance
counselor at my college,

785
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,170
and I was so lucky.

786
00:40:29,170 --> 00:40:31,030
The guidance counselor
took me seriously.

787
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:34,550
And then, he said that this
was an important exploration

788
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:35,350
that I was doing.

789
00:40:35,350 --> 00:40:37,270
And he gave me a
book to read, which

790
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:39,850
was a manuscript copy
of "Realms of the Human

791
00:40:39,850 --> 00:40:44,050
Unconscious, Observations from
LSD Research," by Stan Grof.

792
00:40:44,050 --> 00:40:46,610
When I read this book,
everything fell into place

793
00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:47,410
for me.

794
00:40:47,410 --> 00:40:50,500
I saw this therapeutic
use and also

795
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:52,250
the spiritual aspects of it.

796
00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:54,580
And I felt, OK,
this is a response

797
00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:58,010
to the craziness of the world.

798
00:40:58,010 --> 00:41:01,840
>> It seems to me that
since the French Revolution

799
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,080
and the Enlightenment,
man was put at the center

800
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,670
of the universe.

801
00:41:06,670 --> 00:41:10,540
And certain difficult
notions of God,

802
00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:13,540
on which one was
dependent, were put aside.

803
00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:17,110
And that notion of man being
at the center of the universe

804
00:41:17,110 --> 00:41:20,020
led to the industrial society
that we have around us, led

805
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:22,240
to a great deal of energy.

806
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,130
And the LSD experience
and what we've

807
00:41:24,130 --> 00:41:27,100
been through in the
'60s has brought us

808
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,010
to a whole new
philosophy, that man

809
00:41:30,010 --> 00:41:31,810
is not the center
of the universe,

810
00:41:31,810 --> 00:41:34,735
that we're simply the
transformative energies,

811
00:41:34,735 --> 00:41:37,150
and that we live in a
sort of cosmic ecology

812
00:41:37,150 --> 00:41:39,880
for which we're responsible.

813
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,750
And this is, to my mind,
the great challenge that's

814
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:47,800
in front of us, to
take the consciousness

815
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,010
and the individual
headspace that we've all

816
00:41:51,010 --> 00:41:54,950
managed to develop and now
begin asking ourselves,

817
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:57,280
what is it all for,
and how can we use it?

818
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:07,400
>> We're now in what you can
consider a second renaissance

819
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,960
of psychedelic research.

820
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,500
There are a handful of centers
in the US, universities

821
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,360
that are conducting
research studies.

822
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,170
Probably the reinitiation
of psychedelic research,

823
00:42:18,170 --> 00:42:20,360
I would really credit
Rick Strassmann.

824
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,180
>> Rick Strassmann had been one
of the doctors that I'd worked

825
00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:23,980
with.

826
00:42:23,980 --> 00:42:27,710
And he decided that he would
submit a protocol for DMT,

827
00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:31,370
looking at it as potential
cause of schizophrenia.

828
00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:35,870
>> A psychotomimetic model, so
it means mimicking psychosis.

829
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:38,210
And so it's a way for
a government agency

830
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:41,970
to feel OK about funding
psychedelic research.

831
00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:45,320
>> So the Pilot Drug Evaluation
Staff approved this study

832
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,250
in 1990--

833
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:49,010
>> --and really kind of
reinitiated the field,

834
00:42:49,010 --> 00:42:49,880
I would say.

835
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,430
And then our work
here, Roland Griffiths

836
00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:54,920
got it started not long after.

837
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000
>> In 2006, the Hopkins team
set the standard for scientific

838
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,630
rigor by publishing their
landmark study "A followup

839
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:05,600
to Walter Pahnke's and
Timothy Leary's Good Friday

840
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,990
experiment," concluding that
under the right setting,

841
00:43:08,990 --> 00:43:12,950
psilocybin can reliably
induce a mystical experience.

842
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:15,530
>> I knew nothing
about Johns Hopkins.

843
00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:17,328
I didn't know anything
about Baltimore.

844
00:43:17,328 --> 00:43:18,620
I didn't know Roland Griffiths.

845
00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:20,210
I didn't know any
of these characters.

846
00:43:20,210 --> 00:43:23,060
And I ended up going to grad
school out in California where

847
00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:25,490
we were doing a study
with meditators when

848
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:28,970
Roland's paper was published on
mystical experiences promoted

849
00:43:28,970 --> 00:43:30,110
by psilocybin.

850
00:43:30,110 --> 00:43:31,910
And I just remember
saying to my advisor,

851
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:33,577
I was like, that's
where I'm going next.

852
00:43:33,577 --> 00:43:35,690
Katherine MacLean's
research on openness,

853
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:39,170
that was a really big deal, that
study, because it was always

854
00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:42,290
thought that your personality
is your personality.

855
00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:44,690
How novelty-seeking you
are and how open you are,

856
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:46,940
that's just who you are, and
those things don't really

857
00:43:46,940 --> 00:43:47,740
change.

858
00:43:47,740 --> 00:43:50,330
But what the Hopkins
trials showed

859
00:43:50,330 --> 00:43:51,980
was that people do
become more open,

860
00:43:51,980 --> 00:43:54,230
and you can actually measure
it on a personality test.

861
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:55,310
And that's a big deal.

862
00:43:55,310 --> 00:43:59,690
>> 70% of people were saying,
this is among the five most

863
00:43:59,690 --> 00:44:03,090
personally meaningful
experiences of my life.

864
00:44:03,090 --> 00:44:05,450
I would ask people,
what does that mean?

865
00:44:05,450 --> 00:44:08,090
And someone might
say, well, gee,

866
00:44:08,090 --> 00:44:11,600
when my first child was
born, my daughter, that

867
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,280
changed my life forever.

868
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,600
And recently, my
father passed away.

869
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,420
That was big.

870
00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:20,495
It's kind of like that.

871
00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:29,470
>> It was around 2006, and I
had just taken over as the head

872
00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:31,845
of the Division of Alcoholism
and Drug Abuse at Bellevue.

873
00:44:31,845 --> 00:44:33,980
As an addiction
psychiatrist, I'd

874
00:44:33,980 --> 00:44:36,020
always been interested
in these compounds

875
00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:38,990
because they just seem different
from other drugs of abuse.

876
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:41,965
They didn't behave like cocaine
or amphetamine or tobacco.

877
00:44:41,965 --> 00:44:43,340
They seemed
completely different,

878
00:44:43,340 --> 00:44:45,680
yet they were labeled as
the most addictive drug.

879
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,360
So I always thought
that there was

880
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,370
something interesting
and different about them.

881
00:44:49,370 --> 00:44:51,050
At the time, one
of my supervisors

882
00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:52,640
was Dr. Jeffrey Guss.

883
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,050
>> I saw that Albert Hofmann's
100th birthday was being

884
00:44:57,050 --> 00:45:00,170
celebrated in
Basel, Switzerland.

885
00:45:00,170 --> 00:45:04,040
>> I must do what Huxley
wrote me in a letter.

886
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,540
What you take in by
vision experience

887
00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:09,470
you must give out in daily life.

888
00:45:09,470 --> 00:45:13,060
And that is now the
task which I try,

889
00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:17,840
the feeling to be a part
of the universe, which

890
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,580
I got by LSD experience.

891
00:45:20,580 --> 00:45:25,158
This feeling is always
present in my life.

892
00:45:25,158 --> 00:45:27,200
>> When you think about
what people thought about

893
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,380
in the '60s, that LSD is
going to make you drop out

894
00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:32,930
of society, Albert Hofmann,
who discovered LSD,

895
00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:36,620
was married for 79 years, had
a career at the same company

896
00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:41,540
for almost his entire life,
and was an inspiration to quite

897
00:45:41,540 --> 00:45:43,160
a few of us.

898
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,610
>> Sort of on a lark, I went
to this conference because I

899
00:45:46,610 --> 00:45:49,100
wanted to meet and see
the people that were doing

900
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:50,300
psychedelic research.

901
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:53,690
And it was there that I
first met Charles Grob.

902
00:45:53,690 --> 00:45:58,400
>> Administering a psychedelic
to cancer patient with anxiety

903
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,000
had not occurred
since the early 1970s.

904
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,820
And I felt this was an
ideal patient population

905
00:46:04,820 --> 00:46:08,000
to really start off with
because the early literature was

906
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,180
so impressive.

907
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:12,230
And all of this, from
FDA through the hospital

908
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:14,480
committees, took several years.

909
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,600
But I was patient,
and I was persistent,

910
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,590
and I felt this was really
a worthy effort to make.

911
00:46:21,590 --> 00:46:24,980
And in the end, we got the
approvals we had requested.

912
00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:27,710
>> When I was at NYU, I was
working at Bellevue for nine

913
00:46:27,710 --> 00:46:30,140
years, running the
psychiatric emergency room.

914
00:46:30,140 --> 00:46:32,780
I met with the chairman at
the time, a guy named Robert

915
00:46:32,780 --> 00:46:35,240
Cancro, And I
talked to him a lot

916
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:38,750
about what was going on
at UCLA or at Hopkins

917
00:46:38,750 --> 00:46:41,150
and saying that there was
really enough people at NYU who

918
00:46:41,150 --> 00:46:43,850
are interested that we should
try to do something in NYU.

919
00:46:43,850 --> 00:46:47,120
>> In the 1970s, I came across
the literature on psychedelics

920
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,662
and entheogens, and I also have
a long interest in palliative

921
00:46:49,662 --> 00:46:50,462
care--

922
00:46:50,462 --> 00:46:52,010
I'm a palliative
care psychologist--

923
00:46:52,010 --> 00:46:55,550
and how we die in this
country and the death anxiety.

924
00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:57,785
And it felt the perfect match.

925
00:46:57,785 --> 00:46:59,660
>> At first, we were
just an education group.

926
00:46:59,660 --> 00:47:03,180
But after meeting Charlie
Grob at UCLA, I asked him,

927
00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:05,480
so this is really
possible to do this,

928
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,010
and you can make a
career out of this?

929
00:47:08,010 --> 00:47:10,220
And he said, yes, and
it's all about doing it

930
00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:12,290
correctly and
carefully and avoiding

931
00:47:12,290 --> 00:47:14,160
mistakes made in the past.

932
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,920
So we decided to do it.

933
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,790
>> My name is Estalyn
Walcoff, and I work

934
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:28,050
as a psychotherapist.

935
00:47:28,050 --> 00:47:29,910
>> My name is Dinah Bazer.

936
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:31,590
I teach figure skating.

937
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:35,250
>> My name is Nick Fernandez,
and I work as a clinical

938
00:47:35,250 --> 00:47:37,650
research coordinator in
a psychiatry department

939
00:47:37,650 --> 00:47:39,340
at a hospital here in New York.

940
00:47:39,340 --> 00:47:42,510
>> I'm an adult
literacy teacher,

941
00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:44,950
part-time at the public library.

942
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:51,210
>> I was diagnosed five years
ago with a type of lymphoma

943
00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:52,800
that was untreatable.

944
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,820
And not only was it untreatable,
but everybody who had had it

945
00:47:56,820 --> 00:47:58,110
had died from it.

946
00:47:58,110 --> 00:47:59,620
It was aggressive.

947
00:47:59,620 --> 00:48:03,660
>> I was diagnosed with
leukemia when I was 17 in 2004.

948
00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:06,420
And it was during my
senior year of high school

949
00:48:06,420 --> 00:48:08,880
when I was just getting
ready to go to college.

950
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,840
>> I received the official
diagnosis in December of last

951
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,270
year, so just about a year ago.

952
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:18,120
>> And it changed the
course of my life,

953
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:23,220
because I went from being a
physically active 17-year-old

954
00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:25,050
to a cancer patient.

955
00:48:25,050 --> 00:48:28,470
>> When the chemo was over, I
thought, oh, let's celebrate.

956
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:29,970
I thought I would
want to celebrate.

957
00:48:29,970 --> 00:48:32,303
And when the chemo was over,
I didn't want to celebrate,

958
00:48:32,303 --> 00:48:35,970
because that's when
the fear set in.

959
00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:39,120
That's when you start thinking,
when will the other shoe drop?

960
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,460
When will this come back?

961
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:44,190
>> Always in my life, I've
been an anxious person.

962
00:48:44,190 --> 00:48:47,790
And naturally, when I
was given that diagnosis

963
00:48:47,790 --> 00:48:49,140
my anxiety shot up.

964
00:48:49,140 --> 00:48:53,640
And even though years and
years and years keep going by

965
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,940
and I'm still OK,
I know very well

966
00:48:56,940 --> 00:49:00,640
that this could
return at any moment.

967
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,390
>> I really went to work on
myself because I thought that

968
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:07,780
if I were going to die much
sooner than I had planned,

969
00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:10,990
then I wanted to
understand myself better.

970
00:49:10,990 --> 00:49:13,630
I wanted to understand
spirituality better.

971
00:49:13,630 --> 00:49:17,170
I wanted not to
have a bitter heart.

972
00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:20,150
And I wanted to be open.

973
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:24,550
So I did what I could
for the past five years.

974
00:49:24,550 --> 00:49:27,970
>> And I came across a
post about this study.

975
00:49:27,970 --> 00:49:29,680
>> I read it once,
and then I closed it.

976
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,515
And then I read it again, and
I said, I qualify for that.

977
00:49:35,060 --> 00:49:39,730
So I traveled down to New York
City for an initial screening

978
00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:40,630
interview.

979
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:43,330
I traveled down to New
York City several times

980
00:49:43,330 --> 00:49:47,350
for psychotherapy sessions
with my two psychiatrists.

981
00:49:47,350 --> 00:49:49,840
>> After several sessions
of therapy and careful

982
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,840
preparation, participants
are given psilocybin

983
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,600
in a comfortable living room
setting under the guidance

984
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,800
of their therapist team.

985
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,080
After a brief ritual,
they are encouraged

986
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,290
to lie down on the
couch, wear eye shades,

987
00:50:03,290 --> 00:50:05,600
and listen to classical
music in order

988
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,940
to create an inward experience.

989
00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:12,590
>> Having mentioned that I had
taken psychedelics in my 20s,

990
00:50:12,590 --> 00:50:15,470
the whole object was to see
how beautiful nature was,

991
00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:19,228
to hear how wonderful music
was, to see what could be seen,

992
00:50:19,228 --> 00:50:20,520
to touch what could be touched.

993
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,540
So this was very, very different
because the whole thing

994
00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:25,850
that I was going to be
experiencing was my own mind.

995
00:50:36,690 --> 00:50:40,050
>> There was an immersion
into complete chaos,

996
00:50:40,050 --> 00:50:45,330
360-degree chaos, where I had no
idea of up, down, left, right.

997
00:50:45,330 --> 00:50:48,810
>> Initially, it was
absolutely terrifying.

998
00:50:48,810 --> 00:50:50,370
I think I could
compare it to being

999
00:50:50,370 --> 00:50:54,075
in the hold of a ship that's
in a storm-tossed sea.

1000
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,750
>> I also began experiencing
great emotional pain,

1001
00:51:01,750 --> 00:51:06,360
in particular because I had been
listening to a Black spiritual.

1002
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,958
I felt I could hear the
pain in that woman's voice

1003
00:51:10,958 --> 00:51:12,000
who was singing the song.

1004
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,050
And it brought to me the
whole gestalt of slavery

1005
00:51:16,050 --> 00:51:19,410
and what that is to pull
people out of their homes

1006
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:20,850
and treat them like animals.

1007
00:51:20,850 --> 00:51:26,595
And I sobbed and sobbed
and sobbed because of that.

1008
00:51:26,595 --> 00:51:28,323
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1009
00:51:32,570 --> 00:51:37,340
And the ability to just
be held by my mentors

1010
00:51:37,340 --> 00:51:41,580
and do that greatly,
greatly relieved me.

1011
00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:45,410
>> And I believe it was Tony
who took my hand and said,

1012
00:51:45,410 --> 00:51:46,640
it's all right.

1013
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,450
It's all right.

1014
00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:49,050
Just go with it.

1015
00:51:49,050 --> 00:51:51,990
>> And the further
I went into it,

1016
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:57,200
the more it became evident to
me that the chaos could not

1017
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:07,020
maintain its magnetic draw on me
nor its strength when I stayed

1018
00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:07,820
focused.

1019
00:52:13,330 --> 00:52:17,260
>> The worst pain and the worst
fear and the worst anxiety

1020
00:52:17,260 --> 00:52:21,110
turned into something
that has opened,

1021
00:52:21,110 --> 00:52:25,600
which is the most precious
thing I've ever known.

1022
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:31,990
It was a sense of connectedness
that runs through all of us

1023
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:37,150
that I never knew, and also
a sense of the strength of it

1024
00:52:37,150 --> 00:52:38,440
and the power of it.

1025
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,770
>> It looked like very dense
and beautiful clouds that were

1026
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:50,060
almost like in the jigsaw
puzzle fashion that were backlit

1027
00:52:50,060 --> 00:52:51,830
by a moon that I could not see.

1028
00:52:51,830 --> 00:52:55,640
So they were crevices of
faint light through it.

1029
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,820
And these eyes were
searching me out.

1030
00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:06,510
I felt it was a manifestation
of an alienation I had long

1031
00:53:06,510 --> 00:53:08,550
carried through my
whole life that was just

1032
00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:10,350
trying to lay claim to me.

1033
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,100
I felt very profoundly
that there was no one

1034
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:24,410
that they could find.

1035
00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:25,540
>> I saw my fear.

1036
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:31,050
I pictured it.

1037
00:53:31,050 --> 00:53:35,140
I don't think this
was a hallucination.

1038
00:53:35,140 --> 00:53:38,710
I pictured it as
a dark mass there.

1039
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:42,370
I, like, screamed,
"Get the fuck out!"

1040
00:53:42,370 --> 00:53:45,760
I will not be eaten
alive by this fear.

1041
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,990
And once that happened,
it was just gone.

1042
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:55,290
The fear was gone
and didn't come back.

1043
00:53:55,290 --> 00:53:57,390
And it still hasn't.

1044
00:53:57,390 --> 00:54:01,410
>> I had this feeling
coming over me,

1045
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:05,880
and the thought was of
compassion for myself.

1046
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:12,205
It touches me the most.

1047
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:17,770
That's such a gift.

1048
00:54:17,770 --> 00:54:26,870
>> I needed to stop talking and
look inside and find that I was

1049
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:27,670
part of it.

1050
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:28,712
I was part of everything.

1051
00:54:28,712 --> 00:54:33,270
I was part of God,
that you are, too.

1052
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:34,290
Everything is.

1053
00:54:34,290 --> 00:54:36,360
And you can call it
whatever you want to.

1054
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,830
I don't usually call it God.

1055
00:54:37,830 --> 00:54:38,925
I just call it the one.

1056
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,420
And that's the best thing that
can ever happen to you, ever.

1057
00:54:51,730 --> 00:54:56,230
>> We co-evolved on the planet
with cannabis and with poppy

1058
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:58,390
and psilocybin mushrooms.

1059
00:54:58,390 --> 00:55:00,940
These things have been on
the planet since we have,

1060
00:55:00,940 --> 00:55:02,410
as far as I can
tell, which means

1061
00:55:02,410 --> 00:55:04,600
we've co-evolved with them.

1062
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,160
And psychiatry is
kind of failing.

1063
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,380
Many, many people are
taking sleeping pills

1064
00:55:08,380 --> 00:55:10,630
and anti-anxiety meds
and antidepressants

1065
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:13,760
and for a really long time.

1066
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,330
I really think there's a
better way to treat addiction

1067
00:55:16,330 --> 00:55:21,910
or to treat the sort of
despair and anxiety and malaise

1068
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:24,145
that many of us are
feeling more and more.

1069
00:55:27,070 --> 00:55:28,990
We need a different
perspective, and we

1070
00:55:28,990 --> 00:55:31,120
need that sort of
overview effect

1071
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,110
that the astronauts get when
they see that every one of us

1072
00:55:35,110 --> 00:55:38,110
is just on this blue ball
hurtling through space.

1073
00:55:41,110 --> 00:55:43,490
I think that psychedelics
give you that perspective.

1074
00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:47,140
And so I hope that they can
engender more cooperation,

1075
00:55:47,140 --> 00:55:50,890
more us versus them,
more of this idea

1076
00:55:50,890 --> 00:55:54,540
that separation is an illusion,
and that we all sort of

1077
00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:57,300
have the answers
for our own growth

1078
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:59,325
and for the healing
of the planet.

1079
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,930
If people could know how
connected they really are,

1080
00:56:06,930 --> 00:56:09,690
connected to spirit and
connected to each other

1081
00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:13,590
and connected to nature, so much
of their fear would dissipate.

1082
00:56:13,590 --> 00:56:15,810
So much of their
anxiety would dissipate.

1083
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:19,170
And I just know that
if, in the future,

1084
00:56:19,170 --> 00:56:24,360
this could be used
with all patients,

1085
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,920
under the direction of mentors,
shamans, psychotherapists,

1086
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,965
it would make for a
much happier world.

1087
00:56:40,776 --> 00:56:44,516
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