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As far back as I can remember
I've always wanted to play football.

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I've always wanted to make
an impression on football.

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It's just a great feeling I have
for the game

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and for the people involved in it.
They're my kind of people.

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We've seen the exhaustion.

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Looking back, I think I've had
just desserts

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for what I've given to the game.

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The one thing
we should say is fair

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is that England at least have had
some practice at penalties.

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But there were so many things
along that road.

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Their life is not an easy thing.

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You can't expect to tell
a fairy tale.

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Hopefully we'll able to tell
a fairy tale at the end.

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♪ There must be lights
burning brighter

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♪ Somewhere

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♪ Got to be birds flying higher

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♪ In a sky more blue

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♪ If I can dream of a better land

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♪ Where all my brothers
walk hand in hand

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♪ Tell me why, oh, why

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♪ Oh, why can't my dream come true

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♪ Oh, why

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♪ There must be peace
and understanding sometime

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♪ Strong winds of promise that will
blow away the doubt and fear

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♪ If I can dream of a warmer sun

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♪ Where hope keeps
shining on everyone

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♪ Tell me why, oh, why

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♪ Oh, why won't that sun appear ♪

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From the working classes you get
a bit convinced

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that opportunities are for others,

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and I think everyone's inclined to

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narrow their opportunities down
as opposed to...

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opening them up and saying,
"I can do anything

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if I really want it enough,

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if I really wanna try at it",
you know.

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And I've just been a guy
with that sort of attitude.

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Even when I'm sleeping my feet
are still going.

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There's plenty of time to rest
when you're dead.

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With Terry, you had this colour
in his life,

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you knew there were these
other sides to

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businesses and inventions.

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He into trying things
and I'm sure he saw himself

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as a bit of an entrepreneur.

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But football was his game.

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I think there was a definite
arrogance about Terry.

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I mean, why wouldn't you be arrogant.

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You know, you're like some sort
of god, in a way.

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There's always the opportunity
for people to say,

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"Well, you should've focused just
fully on the football

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and it would've been better",
but maybe it could've been worse.

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I understand why he wanted to be
more than just a coach

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or the manager. I don't think it
worked out well for him.

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Terry's story is a bit
of a Greek tragedy.

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You know, he really aspired to power
to greatness.

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He wanted to be top of the world,

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and then, you know, suddenly,
reality sets in.

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What we don't want is to be caught
quick break.

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Oh, fucking hell, we are in trouble.

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And it's gone in!

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You talk till you're fucking blue
in the face.

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The mistakes was so severe.

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Not strong enough on the ball.

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Graham was very vocal.
Tactically, he was decent,

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but it just didn't work. You know,
coming off the back

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of 1990, getting through to
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it just fizzled out.

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And it's a goal.

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Do you ever have thoughts about
your own job and say,

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"Hey, it's virtually impossible to
do this job successfully

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- under the present system"?
- No, I mean, I signed a four-year contract

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with the Football Association. That
doesn't say that it's still not

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virtually impossible to do the job
in the way

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that one would like it to do. Of
course, some previous managers

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have said the same. I'm not the
first England manager to say this.

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But I certainly don't throw in
the towel.

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Don't need to knock it first time.

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I mean, looking at all things, from
my own personal point of view,

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looking at how things have happened,

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looking at availability or non
availability of players,

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I'm satisfied that I've done the job
to the best of my ability.

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The whole idea of the England team

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was kind of under assault, really.

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But it was a regime that tumbled
into the abyss quite quickly.

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I think if you talk to the players,
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emotionally, spiritually. They had
taken such a battering.

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It was a very harsh, strong
tabloid circulation war

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going on at the time,
and he was very much

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in the crosshairs of that. And
because he was such a sort of

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decent, dignified person,
I think it really hurt him.

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What's the problem with everybody?
What's the matter with everybody?

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Come on, come on, brace yourselves.

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Get on with it, look for your win.
Oh, Rob, I can't continue

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giving... Rob, I can't have...

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Listen, Rob, I cannot have
faces like yours

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around me now. Now, I'll continue...
I can't.

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I can't, Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob,

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Rob, I'll tell you this now...

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If you were one of my players,
with a face like that,

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I'd kick you out. You would never
have a chance, son.

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Come on, bit more of a smile, Rob,
be a bit more... Hey?

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- Happy. Hey?
- I am...

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The whole nation rests on whether
Rob Shepherd is happy or not.

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I hope I'm smiling tomorrow,
I really do.

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I really do, I tell you,
but I just worry.

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England needing to win
by a seven-goal margin,

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and hope that Poland can do them
a favour

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in Poznan against Holland.
I'm sure you're aware now

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of what's at stake. And number 9
picks the ball up straight away

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and San Marino launch the first
attack. And a mistake

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by Stuart Pearce, and San Marino
have scored.

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I don't believe this.

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The newspapers tell me that nobody
wants the England manager's job now,

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supposing Graham Taylor resigns or
is sacked, or whatever happens

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to him. Maybe he'll continue, who
knows, we don't know yet.

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You were always tipped but you
haven't been tipped lately.

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I'm resting. I'm enjoying myself
at last.

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Would you take it? Would it
be a job that would interest you,

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supposing all things were equal?
I tell you what I'll do,

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I'll sit on the fence.

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What would you be doing if you
weren't gonna be playing football?

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I have no idea. It's all I can do.

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Dagenham was alive

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with football people.

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Bobby Moore. When Bobby grew up
with us

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he was a couple of years older
than Terry and I.

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Jimmy Greaves. Jimmy wasn't
a Dagenham boy

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but he lived at Hainault, and Jimmy
was just a lovely, lovely man.

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Terry was going to be

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as big as any of them.

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Football was a way to get on.

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How old are you now?16.

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- But football's your whole life?
- Yes.

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Do you want it to go on being your
- whole life?
- Yes.

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This is the famous Bonham Road
where Terry lived.

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Terry was synonymous with Dagenham.

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Very much one of Dagenham's
favourite sons.

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We bought Terry a bike for Christmas

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and it was a lovely bike.

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And he was standing in
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down there, a very small passageway,

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and Jimmy Thompson came along
and he said,

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"Whose bike is that out there?"

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So, we said, "Terry's." He said,
"It's no good", he said,

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"Not for footballer's legs."
He said, "It develops the wrong
muscles",

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and from that day on, Terry never
rode that bike again.

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It was put out in the shed and it
was there for a few years

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until we gave it away.

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I think, if you're
a very bright child

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you're sort of hungry
for everything.

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You want to conquer the world.

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You're brilliant at football,
you can sing,

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you're good looking.
There's a sort of restless mind.

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♪ You're just too good to be true

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♪ Can't take my eyes off of you...

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The youth team I joined was
obviously destined for big things.

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Every day I used to make that
journey across the town

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to Stamford Bridge. But it was a
journey I would've made for nothing,

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let alone the £6 a week we earned
in those days.

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I suppose you could say that my time
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was the happiest I've ever had.

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Just looking around there now, it
brings the memories flooding back.

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The place, the game, and most of
all, the people.

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And, of course, it wasn't
a bad team either.

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We won the Youth Cup
two years running,

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and Chelsea gave me the chance to
tour Europe for the first time.

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The Chelsea team was
full of youngsters

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at 19, 20, and 21,

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and I think that's one of the
reasons why we all got on

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very well together.

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I knew right away that I would enjoy
it there.

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Terry was quite a character.
A bouncy Londoner,

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great sense of humour.

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Terry was loved. You know, he was
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And another goal!

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The amount of talent there was
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was unbelievable. And Terry was the
brightest jewel of the lot.

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He's your midfield general.

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You know, he'll get hold of the ball
and he'll get your attack organised

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and get you functioning as a team.

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And like that type of player,
he would always want the ball.

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Playing for England at full level
completed a unique set for me.

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Caps at all levels and a record
that can't be beaten.

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Inside left, Terry
Venables to Hinton.

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He's crossed, he's deflected
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Goal.

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Terry had it all in his head.

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The players knew that Terry eventually

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would become a coach at some part
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Are you expected to shout at the
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Everybody expect to shout at each
other. You know, it's not necessarily

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just the captain. We can't have
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East End and West End,
two different worlds

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under the same roof. The East
that's shabby.

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The West End, it's smart
and fashionable.

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He was always very dapper, Terry.

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I picked up on it, and obviously,

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then living in London, which was
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that helped me as well.

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I got to know certain ways
of wearing certain clothes.

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It was exciting times.

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We used to come up to London
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nearly every other day,
so we thought,

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"Instead of buying clothes, why
don't we have our own little shop?"

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That's how it started.

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Terry met somebody and said,
"You know, do you fancy doing this

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and doing that?" And he spoke to me
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and we give it a try, like.

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The problem we had was what we were
gonna call the shop.

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We came up with the idea,
Greater Ron.

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There was Ronnie Harris,
there was Terry and myself,

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so, really, everybody else thought,
"Well, that's a good idea",

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so, Greater Ron it was.

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♪ I told my friend
that I was gone away...

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He said to me, "Come up and have
a suit." I went, "Terry,

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I'm your poorest mate. How can I
afford one of your suits?"

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He said, "Yeah." All the boys from
all the other clubs

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they all had their suits made,
didn't they,

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and it was right in the West End,
it was.

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We made Norman Wisdom's suits.

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We never got the contract
for the hat,

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but we used to make his suits. They
said, "Not them little funny ones."

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I said, "No, it's ones that he
normally wears."

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It was just an outlet,

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but Terry was like that, you see.
His mind was going all the time.

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Terry's a great one
for trying new ventures.

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He's got a very active mind.

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Terry's one of these fellas that
could talk all day,

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had plenty of gift of the gab.
If there were four of us

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having an argument, he would always
have to be the one

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that won it. Simple as that.

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In training, if we were working
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and free kicks, he'd say to Tom,

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"Maybe we should try this, Tom,
and do this."

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You take it, yeah. Uh-huh, yeah.

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I felt he just got a little too big
for his boots.

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I don't think it went down too well
with Tom

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because Terry never lasted too long
after that.

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If a club a being run the proper
way, whether you're at the top,

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at the bottom, you must have discipline.

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And let's face it, if you give some
players a yard they'll take a mile.

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After more than two months
of wrangling

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the FA have finally got their man.
But up to the last minute,

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Terry Venables was trying to keep
everyone guessing.

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You look like a man who's got a new
job, have you?

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- No, no.
- Please, Terry, look this way, please.

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After months of speculation, the
worst kept secret in football

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has been revealed. Terry Venables is
the new England football coach.

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I remember I was cleaning the
kitchen floor,

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and he rang me and said,
"I've got it."

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But I think he was euphoric.

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I think the happiest I've ever heard
him, actually.

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Today's announcement
had been delayed

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because of concerns about the
business affairs

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of the former Tottenham Hotspur
manager. But according

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to the Football Association,
any lingering doubts

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have now been dispelled.

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Terry Venables, England coach.

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A job description that, according to
the Football Association,

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would've gone to whomever
they'd appointed,

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that, which, has a distance from the
FA's administration

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that the word "manager" most
certainly does not have.

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Terry. Thank you.

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This one, please, this one.
Terry, and again, this way.

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- One step over, please.
- REPORTER It was a day of getting to know you,

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early ideas, plans, tactics for
football and tomorrow's
sports pages.

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The business deals, the libels
and any legal matters

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could be cleared up later.

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I've always took the stance
that I'd done nothing wrong

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and I was always very strong
in that view.

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And, in fact, I'm glad they took
a long while.

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That showed that they went
through everything,

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they asked as many people as they
could, and I'm glad they come up

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with the answer they did.

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We have total confidence.

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He comes to us, he tells us
with clean hands,

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his lawyer tells us he comes to us
with clean hands.

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And in his contract, of course, we
have built in adequate safeguards.

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Initially, when he got the contract,
he was happy

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to take the contract, and I think he
sort of took it at face value.

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But it obviously meant something,
that there wasn't a World Cup

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in that contract. So I think he was
prepared to see how things developed

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which you would do. I mean, who
knows what's gonna happen

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in that period of time. But he
wasn't happy with it.

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I was a bit apprehensive,
cos I thought,

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"Oh, God, what's it gonna bring,
this job",

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because you got so much stick.

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If you did it wrong, the papers were
on you all the time.

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But I was happy for him. He had got
the job he wanted,

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so... And I knew he could do it.
If anybody could do it, he could.

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Terry, Terry, one last glance
over here.

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You know very well, over 20 years of
coaching and managing

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what style that I've used.

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I'm certainly not intending
to change that.

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It will be try to play with as much
invention and flair,

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coupled with common sense, cos it's
not just about playing football,

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it's winning games.

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I've worked with Terry since I was
21, so he knows what I'm capable

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of doing. It's great playing
for your country,

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but I don't pick the team.
All I'm here to do

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is prove to Terry my fitness and
prove him that I wanna play

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for England again, full stop.
I'm glad you realise that at last.

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You don't pick the team.

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Terry! Terry!

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The FA handled him really badly.

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OK, they needed to work, maybe tone
down some of the business elements

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- to Venables.
- But you couldn't, could you?

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That was a thing. Because he's such
a firing, sparking chap

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who wants to do all things all the
time. Just part of what he was.

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It's why there was always that
twinkle in his eye when you spoke

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to him. Even when he was giving you
a bollocking...

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..you sense that.
But they wanted him

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to wear an FA blazered straitjacket.

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And that was not gonna work.

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So we've got the European
Championships in two years, right,

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and England are gonna win it, yeah?
Tell me they're gonna win it?

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I'm very confident and I wouldn't
have taken the job

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if I didn't think there was
a good possibility

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of doing particularly well in the
future, and turning it round.

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The countries we're gonna play
are good teams,

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and I think it's stupid to actually
think we're going to win it.

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I think it's... It's not.
You're gonna get hugely disappointed
if you don't.

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What we gotta say is we're
confident, we're gonna be there,

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we're gonna stick together,
the country will be behind us

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like they were in '66, and hopefully
that's where it'll take us.

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I wouldn't go any stronger than
that. It'd be very silly to do that.

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You can, I can't.

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Let's get Terry sorted out first
and then...

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Actually, I wouldn't mind a shot
of you looking at the list.

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Right, standby. Nice and quiet.

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The cup run of the mid '70s, when we
took the third division side

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to the semi-final, gave the club
the appetite for success.

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And when Malcolm Allison departed
and I took over,

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I was manager of a league club
for the first time.

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Terry's character changed
from being a player

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when he went into management.
It was more deep thinking.

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He thought about things, and he
always had a picture of what
he wanted.

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It's a young side, how do you think
they might - if they get

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to the first division? Would they
flourish there?

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I think we'd do very well,
but the main concern is

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getting out this division first.
There's no point in talking about

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the first until we're out
of the second.

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- Do you know how to play this?
- Yes.

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I learnt, with Terry,
that if you've got the ball,

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then you're the boss, because it's
impossible to play football

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if you haven't got a ball.

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And that's how simple he made
the game for me,

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and he said, "All I want you to be

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is a thorn in the other
team's side."

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He never muddled my thinking.
Anything that was complicated

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when he spoke to the team,
in general,

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and anything to do with free kicks,
throw ins, or tactical stuff,

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he always moved me to one side
and just threw me

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a couple of footballs and said,
"Go and have a few shots",

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or, "Practise your crossing,
or whatever. This basically

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doesn't concern you. All I want you
to do is show your talent when you
play."

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Mind management was a real strength
of his,

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and encouraging players. I'm sure it
gave all of us a lot of confidence.

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I'm Vince. Would you like to come
and see the manager

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to sign your contracts now. Come and
- see Mr Venables.
- Thanks.

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Sit down. How are you?
Good, sit down.

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Because of Terry Venable's vision
it was an easy transition

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from being youth team players to
first team players.

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Has it been easy for you as a
manager with youngsters?

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It makes you feel young,
I would think as well.

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Yeah, well, I am young.

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And that's one-nil.

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We'd won the FA Youth Cup two
seasons in a row,

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we'd had a good season,
the season after that

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where we progressed up the league.

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Well done, lads, well done.

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And this is all before the majority
of us had turned 20.

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And it's Andy McCulloch putting
Palace in front in the 15th minute.

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You're telling me that the strain
that one or two people

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in the back room are seeing as you
get nearer...

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Story about a cup of coffee this
- morning.
- My secretary,

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I said, "How are you feeling?"
She said, "I'm fine.

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I'm absolutely fine. Would you like
a cup of coffee?"

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I said, "Yes." She said, "What do
you want, white or red?"

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Beautiful, Terry, thank you.
Thank you.

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The Burnley game was
obviously, like,

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a freakish night because we walked
into the ground

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and it was absolutely
full to the rafters

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and people hanging off
of floodlights and that.

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The crowning goal came from
midfield break.

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Burnley, they seem to fall apart,
as Dave Swindlehurst,

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the top scorer, added one more
to his tally.

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I just tried to hit it
as hard as I could.

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And I think it took a slight
deflection and went in,

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so I was gonna take that all day.

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Palace were going up. They'd won
promotion back to the first division

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after an absence of six years.

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All 50,000 fans wanted to see
their team,

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and in particular, their manager,
Terry Venables,

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who's brought success
to South London

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out of a team that cost next
to nothing.

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You were gonna get swamped if you
didn't get off the pitch

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cos they all just piled on the pitch
and it was a great sight,

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it was a really, really great sight.

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We'd built a tremendous team, like
the Chelsea side of my youth days,

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it was based on young players,
and became dubbed

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"the team of the '80s",
as we made our way up

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to the first division.

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Go on, let's do it again.

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Terry Venables' belief is that
successful leadership

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can come only from
personal stability.

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He as never strayed far from his
home community in East London,

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and keeps his family sheltered
in their home

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on the edge of Epping Forest,
away from the publicity

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that seems to follow
the football hero.

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Make it go, hit it hard.

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In East London, he has
a community of interests.

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This little shop, for example, he
bought for his wife's parents.

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- - How are you, OK?
- Fine, yeah.
- Good.

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You seem to be involved
in the community

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and your in-laws and your parents,
they're all in business together.

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What's gonna happen? Are you
prepared to take on

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the job of being a football manager
of Scunthorpe or Newcastle

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- or Manchester?
- Yeah, that wouldn't bother me.

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If you think about something enough,
you've gotta be prepared

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to go where the job calls.
How long are you gonna stay at
Crystal Palace?

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How long will they be able to keep
you at Crystal Palace?

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I don't know, I don't know about
that. I'm quite happy here.

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I'm more than happy, and until
anything else happens,

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I'll be quite happy to stay here.

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Come on!

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Crystal Palace now are at the bottom
of the first division,

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however, the Palace manager,
Terry Venables,

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told me afterwards that this
was the first time

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that he felt that Palace had played
badly this season.

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I just felt as if the team

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started off quite spritely,
full of confidence

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and played away, and then, when it
didn't break for us,

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I thought as the game went on they
felt they weren't gonna do it,

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and they just felt a bit down and
thought, "It's not for us today",

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and that's the last time I wanna see
that, because you gotta fight

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right the way through if we're gonna
make it happen.

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As soon as things started turning
sour at Palace,

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then Terry disappeared and we just
lost direction.

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We always thought his brain worked
at, sort of, 200 miles an hour,

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and he was doing, you know,
all of these things,

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he had all these issues -
well, or side businesses.

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He had pubs, didn't he, you know,

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it's hard enough thinking about
football all the time,

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then to add all these other things
going on in his head.

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I think, probably,
they were a bit confused

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as to why, suddenly,
you've gone really well

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and then, within a year,
it's gone out the window.

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When I come out the board meeting I
very seriously thought about,

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"I didn't feel there was
confidence." I'm always onto the
players about

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sticking together, and to be fair to
them, they've been unbelievable,

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right the way through it, even last
week at Sunderland,

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they were great. They've stuck
together and I've just felt

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people around the top of me hadn't
stuck together.

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If they'd took the leaf out of the
book of the players

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I think everything would be fine.

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He called me aside and said, "What
would you think if I left?"

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And I said, "Well, I think
we'd be devastated."

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You know, he's got a good young side
there, and possibly,

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with the right additions,
we could've gone on

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and had a better run. But obviously,
he had plans to go elsewhere.

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After more than the usual flurry of
rumour and counter rumour

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earlier this week, Venables finally
agreed on Tuesday evening

465
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,040
to become the new manager of
Queens Park Rangers.

466
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,360
"Once upon a time there was
a boy named Jack,

467
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,480
who decided to go out into the world
and make a name for himself.

468
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,320
Now, Jack didn't have much money."

469
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:55,000
Listen, listen. "Jack didn't have
much money,

470
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,320
but he was ambitious. So, one day,
he set out

471
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:00,920
and went looking for
a giant to kill."

472
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680
The idea of going to China to
prepare for a tournament

473
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,240
in your backyard was agreed to
by Terry

474
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,960
because he thought that the pressure

475
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800
on the players, if we sat at home,

476
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,840
would be all the greater.

477
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,960
Chairman Mao once said, "Until
you've climbed the Great Wall,

478
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960
you're not a man." Today,
England's footballers

479
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,040
did their best to meet
the challenge,

480
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,200
an experience that took
their breath away.

481
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,200
The idea was to go up by cable car.
It was a game plan that went wrong.

482
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,480
How's that jetlag, lads?

483
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,720
I think we took a wrong turn and
finished up walking all the way,

484
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,120
- but there you go.
- So, having flown halfway across the world

485
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,560
and walked halfway across
the Great Wall,

486
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,560
tomorrow, the England team will be
asked to play football.

487
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,040
A very select number of reporters
fly out

488
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,160
for what turns into,
arguably the most memorable

489
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,800
week of English football
off the field

490
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840
there's been in a very long time.

491
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720
I could see the logic of them going
over there,

492
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,600
cos Terry Venables wanted to take
the players away,

493
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,400
have a bonding trip, and the bonding
was not simply on the pitch

494
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,440
but was off the pitch.

495
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,720
This was part of the Venables ethos.

496
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,160
This is about building a team spirit
before the tournament.

497
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,920
We played a couple of games over
there. We played a select 11

498
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,080
in an absolute awful game,

499
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,720
when you consider, within less than
two weeks,

500
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000
we were going into a major finals,

501
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,280
with the expectation we might
win it,

502
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,480
which we were so far away from that
it was scary.

503
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,200
It started to go wrong when we went
to Hong Kong.

504
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Terry was quite calm about it.
He said, "Lads, you can go out."

505
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,680
He gave us the green light
to do that.

506
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,720
I remember sitting with
Gareth Southgate

507
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,880
and saying, "Gareth, have a night in
tonight. I can see all the warning
signs."

508
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,840
And he just said, "Look, when I've
been away with England in the past,

509
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,760
when there's been a night out,
you'd have thought the lads

510
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,800
had never been for a drink before in
their lives."

511
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240
I kinda think, when you go to a
nightclub, as long as you don't

512
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840
get into any punch-ups or it's
kicking off,

513
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,560
then everything's OK.

514
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,520
A bit of relacing, a bit of bonding,

515
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,400
a bit of team spirit. It didn't go
quite according to plan.

516
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,120
But sometimes you gotta let off
steam as young men

517
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,440
and probably, the steam went
a little bit too far.

518
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Can laugh about it now but we
weren't laughing about it then.

519
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,640
It wasn't just events out there.

520
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,360
They even got into trouble
- at 30,000 feet.
- Cathay Pacific.

521
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040
What went on CX-whatever it was!

522
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,680
I'm not sure whether there was one
player actually in the overhead locker

523
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,360
at one stage. I think a screen got
broken somewhere along the lines.

524
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,720
I was asleep. Fast asleep.

525
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Reports suggest that Paul
Gascoigne's 29th birthday

526
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,800
celebrations were at the centre
of the trouble.

527
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,920
You could smell the bloodlust.

528
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,720
You could just tell this wasn't
gonna go well.

529
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,640
For the FA with Euro '96 getting
ever closer,

530
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,680
the bad publicity is embarrassing.

531
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,360
They're all good players, and I'm
very pleased with all of them.

532
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,400
And it's not a nice one,
but there you go.

533
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,680
They know and been first class.

534
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,360
The general consensus is that
the England squad

535
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,800
should've behaved better while
representing their country abroad.

536
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,320
Terry Venables did something very
clever. First of all,

537
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,920
they cooked up this collective
responsibility defence,

538
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,600
which was one deflection, "We're all
in this together,

539
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,040
we're not gonna name names. Nobody's
gonna be individually punished for
this."

540
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,120
Today, the England squad
has accepted

541
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,800
collective responsibility
for what happened.

542
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,080
Then his second trick was to say,

543
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,040
"It's OK for you lot, you know,
you're setting in your press box.

544
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,440
You don't have to go out there
representing your country."

545
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,080
And he turned it right round.

546
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,040
I've not had one problem in two and
a half years from these boys.

547
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,680
And I think that the treatment
they've had

548
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120
is disgraceful. End of story.

549
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160
Now let's get on with the show.

550
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Are you accepting that damage
was caused?

551
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,960
I'm not accepting anything. If
you've got any proof... Have you?

552
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,640
Photographs? Photographs?

553
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,880
Oh, you take their word
but you don't take ours,

554
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960
- is that what it is?
- I'm just asking for your opinion.

555
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,240
Well, I'll give it. OK, that's fine.
Any football questions?

556
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,560
When you look at,
you're the England manager

557
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,320
going into a major tournament,
your team have been out,

558
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,200
that have got in tabloids,
they've broken aeroplanes,

559
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,960
your team have been
bloody dog awful,

560
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,080
the pressure that he was under,
you know, he handled it

561
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,480
as if it was water off a duck's back
and not a problem.

562
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,320
You know, that's great management

563
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,840
of everybody around him. How he
handled the FA as well.

564
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,800
This is the time we've all
been waiting for.

565
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,680
At last we shall get boots on ball
in earnest,

566
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,440
and Euro '96 will be underway.

567
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,520
There's obviously huge hope
and anticipation,

568
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,240
ahead of any tournament.
There's more expectation

569
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,160
because you're the home team. Ours
was the first game of the tournament

570
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440
so there's all the hullabaloo
around that.

571
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,960
We knew this is a team that we're
expected to beat,

572
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920
but actually, a good team with some
very good players.

573
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,720
It's building up for this.
This is the real thing,

574
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080
this is what we've been
preparing for.

575
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,120
We just hope that we're gonna
be successful,

576
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,160
and we're ready to start.

577
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,240
I was under huge pressure.
I hadn't scored for England,

578
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,320
so it was hard enough going out to
play my tournament anyway,

579
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200
let alone having not scored
for two years,

580
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240
but Terry just made me feel at ease,
he made me feel

581
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280
very, very confident.

582
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,760
He had the belief to come to me
before we went across

583
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,800
to the Far East prior to Euro '96,

584
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,360
and he said to me, "Whatever
happens, you will be

585
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880
my number one centre forward
for that first game."

586
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,560
And I just stood back and thought,
"Wow."

587
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,280
For this man, for this manager to
have that amount of belief

588
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,080
and faith in me,
when I hadn't scored,

589
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,760
I had to repay him.
I couldn't let him down.

590
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,520
That's going.

591
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680
It wasn't a great performance
from us.

592
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,400
It was a bit of a flat game.

593
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,360
Find Shearer, finds it.

594
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560
And it was just when I got into
the position,

595
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,960
it was basically,
"I'm not passing this,

596
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,040
this is head down, hit as hard
as you can,

597
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,080
make sure you hit the target."

598
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,040
It comes through now. And it's goal
for Alan Shearer.

599
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,560
When that ball went in,

600
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,760
it was just, that's it,

601
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,880
the weight and the pressure
and everything else

602
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,040
was off of my shoulders, and every
forward will tell you,

603
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000
when you've been on a barren run,

604
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,440
that one-to-one comes along,
then you're pretty confident

605
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,480
the next one will come along.

606
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,000
England really back on their heels
at the moment.

607
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,840
They claim a penalty. It's given.

608
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,880
A penalty for Switzerland,

609
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,000
conceded by Stuart Pearce.

610
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,800
This is a major problem now
for England.

611
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Turkyilmaz has made it 1-1.

612
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,680
Well, let's hear from the England
coach, Terry Venables.

613
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:47,280
He's down there with Gary Newbon.
Terry, it was a very harsh

614
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,160
penalty decision Pearce doesn't even
seem to know it'll hit him.

615
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480
I didn't think it was a penalty.
In saying that,

616
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,800
we haven't played well second half,
we're dead on our feet,

617
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,840
and both teams looked very tired
at second half,

618
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,040
and it just looked like it was gonna
fizzle out to hopefully a 1-nil.

619
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,080
But it's a disappointment. It's not
the result we were looking for.

620
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,320
The expressions on the England faces
say it all.

621
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,400
It's dejection once again at the end
of the first game

622
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,280
of a major tournament.

623
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,720
Terry was totally against having a
big reaction in the dressing rooms

624
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,000
straight after the game,
and a lot calmer

625
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,640
around the defeats,
the things that went wrong

626
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,680
than maybe I was used to. We were
trying to work things through

627
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,960
and find solutions to things,
rather than be punished

628
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000
for making a mistake.

629
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,560
For Gordon Williams,
long-time journalist

630
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,440
and author of a string of novels
including the hugely-successful

631
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,400
Straw Dogs, the agonising search
for a plot line

632
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,120
is only too familiar.
But for Terry Venables,

633
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,920
a professional footballer since his
school days, and now,

634
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,120
one of the most highly paid managers
in the game,

635
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,040
the connection with creative writing
is not so obvious.

636
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,240
This guy, he must be quite
something, mustn't he.

637
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520
I mean, you know, not only
top footballer,

638
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,400
FA Cup winner's medal,
but he writes books.

639
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,160
You know, awe, respect, admiration.

640
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,520
Football's a hard graft,
but I think the hard graft

641
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,960
of writing a book, that is
tremendously difficult.

642
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,960
Come on!

643
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,440
He's somebody whose education ended

644
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,600
very abruptly at 15, really.

645
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,160
And which left him

646
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,840
with a lot of talents
which are undeveloped,

647
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,120
all because he was so great
at football.

648
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,200
And I think that's where his longing
to write came from.

649
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:42,320
No-one actually believe,
when we wrote the novel,

650
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,520
that I had anything to do with the
writing of it.

651
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,720
And they still don't. When I get
linked with Hazell

652
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,760
people just say, "Did you
actually...?

653
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,440
Did you actually have anything to do
with it?" They don't like to say,

654
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,760
"You know, a sweaty, moronic
footballer, what can he do?"

655
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,000
You know, any managers would
normally say to players,

656
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,800
"Focus on your football,
forget everything else,

657
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,720
get married really young,
avoid all distractions."

658
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,080
I think there was a feeling

659
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,720
that people within football

660
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,760
should stay within football.

661
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360
He can't be... I don't think he can
be too wealthy,

662
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040
cos I think he's gonna be the sort
of guy that's...

663
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,160
that's not gonna work.

664
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,360
I do wonder whether if
there hadn't been

665
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,680
that sort of, "Ooh, it's just
a gimmick", reception,

666
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,720
whether Terry would actually have,
sort of,

667
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,520
bothered to write any more.

668
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,960
I do wonder whether
he was galvanised,

669
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,560
so determined to prove that he could
actually do this.

670
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,440
You know, he'd conquered the world
in football,

671
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
so now he wanted to conquer
the world of literature.

672
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,960
Good evening. Mr Clifford Avery?

673
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680
- Yeah?
- My name's James Hazell.

674
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:11,080
My name is James Hazell.

675
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,040
My name's James Hazell.

676
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,080
My name is James Hazell.

677
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,720
What I loved about Hazell was
the tone of voice.

678
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,240
I mean, sort of streetwise, cheerful,

679
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,440
knowing your way around, thinking
yourself as good as the next man.

680
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,960
I put a lot of that down
to Terry Venables.

681
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,840
I admired Gordon Williams, but the
sense of London in Hazell,

682
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080
the sense that skill would get
you a long way,

683
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,880
and you needn't really be put down
by anybody, came from Terry.

684
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,160
He's been through a lot of things
and he's in the stage

685
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,720
where he's lost a lot of the things
that were important to him.

686
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,640
And he don't really care too much.
He's a little bit cynical,

687
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000
but he's funny. I think you'd like
his company.

688
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,280
They say cockneys don't travel well.

689
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,840
Why should we, when we're there.

690
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Yes, I know, darling.

691
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,400
Positively sick-making.

692
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,160
"A couple of hours later,
I was going into the lift

693
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960
in the big new office block
in High Holborn.

694
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,040
The fine old legal firm of Venables,
Venables, Williams and Gregory

695
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,120
Solicitors occupied the whole
of the sixth floor."

696
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Peel him off a pony, would you,
- love.
- A what?

697
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,200
- £25, love.
- James.

698
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,560
"Gordon smiled
patronisingly. It was a little joke

699
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,960
between us. Mainly on his side.

700
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,560
The difference in our backgrounds.

701
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,120
Gordon had been to Eton and one of
those Oxford colleges

702
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,360
which they pronounced the opposite
way from the spelling

703
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,480
just to keep us slobs guessing."

704
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,040
He always looks, perhaps, a little
bit out of every sort of company,

705
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,880
and I think he's just above one set
and just below one set.

706
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,280
He's trying to find himself, I think.

707
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,520
With educated people he comes
on more cockney

708
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,520
and with cockney he becomes
slightly more precise.

709
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,200
- Would that be correct?
- That's right,
- yeah.
- Bit like yourself.

710
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,240
That's right.

711
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,920
I will think that football is a
full-time occupation

712
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560
without writing books, and I think
that he must have a hell of a lot

713
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,160
of energy to expend if he can go
home at night

714
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,520
and he can do things like this.

715
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,360
He's also got other activities,

716
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
I believe, in a business sense,

717
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,440
so perhaps he's got a little bit
more than me,

718
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,400
cos when I get home all I want to do
is collapse.

719
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,120
Do you think he has any weaknesses
at all?

720
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,880
He's paranoic, in the sense that

721
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,920
he always suspected me of...

722
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,560
..trying to be the number one
in this partnership,

723
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,680
the writing partnership. I think he
is a manager, he has to be in control.

724
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,720
So it was a bit of a rough ride
for me at times.

725
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,640
There are people who seem to be
multi-talented.

726
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,680
They got so many things that

727
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,960
they could probably have
succeeded in

728
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,840
if they hadn't decided, "This is
gonna be my main focus in life."

729
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,160
And I would put Terry very much
in that category.

730
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,960
He wasn't totally a person

731
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
who was football and nothing but.

732
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,800
He had a lot of other strings
to his bow.

733
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,240
So, now it's time for Mister Terry
Venables to sing.

734
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,080
The song is called What Do You Want
To Make Those Eyes At Me For?

735
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,120
Terry Venables.

736
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,240
♪ What do you wanna make those eyes
at me for?

737
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,720
♪ If they don't mean what they say...

738
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,160
You also invented, didn't you,
in the early '60s,

739
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,800
a thing called a Thingamewig.

740
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,560
In those days, on the Saturday, the
ladies would go shopping

741
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,800
cos they'd all get ready to go out
in the evenings on the town,

742
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,480
so rather than have the clips in
and that,

743
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560
they used to have this sort of puffy
hat with a peak.

744
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,560
It was quite a nice corduroy or
something like that,

745
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,040
and then velcro-ed inside was the
hair hanging down, you see.

746
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,360
What, a hat with a wig in it?

747
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,920
♪ You're fooling around
with me now...

748
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,960
This is just for you, Terry, OK?

749
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,960
♪ Oh, that's all right

750
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,040
♪ I'll get you a lonesome night...

751
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,760
As if that's not enough, this is my
latest pet project.

752
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,200
A board game.

753
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,080
Right, here we go.

754
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,120
OK.

755
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,160
"Football is a game,
but it's also a business

756
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,480
and a big one at that."

757
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,320
The fact that the winner is the
player with the most money
at the end,

758
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,000
it's an interesting concept.

759
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:45,120
♪ If they don't mean what they say ♪

760
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,680
When I think about Euro '96 I always
think about that game,

761
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:09,600
cos it meant so much to everybody.

762
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Not just football people but
general people,

763
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,480
the people going to work on
a Monday morning.

764
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,840
You know, it changed our perspective

765
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,880
at the way they looked at life.

766
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,560
The pressure was building massively
for the Scotland game,

767
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,480
because we'd only got a point,
and now we know that

768
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,360
if we don't get anything from the
Scotland game

769
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,400
we could be in trouble.

770
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,880
It was a game we had to win.
As much as it was exciting,

771
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,960
it was also a bit nervy,

772
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,280
cos we knew if we lost that game

773
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,960
then we'd be going back to Hong Kong
and what happened on the plane

774
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,800
and they'll be blaming El Tel
and all this,

775
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,680
blaming all the players, and the
nation would hate us.

776
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,080
When we actually arrived at the
stadium and the atmosphere

777
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,520
was just phenomenal. I've never
known anything like it, ever.

778
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,720
England always win games, normally,
right back to '50s, at Wembley.

779
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,040
And the thing that I always
wanted to do

780
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,880
was to do it my way,

781
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,920
and do it with style.

782
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,680
Away we go.

783
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,960
Headlines going to war.

784
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000
It's not that by any means but
it is a very important

785
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,720
game of football for both
these nations.

786
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,080
We weren't great the first half.
We made a change,

787
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,000
I think he took Pearce off,
if I remember rightly,

788
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,800
and brought Jamie on. He wanted to
get the ball into Jamie,

789
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,720
it was a great pass,
get the ball out wide,

790
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,840
hit balls in the box, put pressure
on the Scottish team.

791
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,320
Credit to Jamie, he played
extremely well,

792
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,560
and he was a big influence in the
second half of the game,

793
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,800
I've gotta say,
and it was a master stroke.

794
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,080
We went to a fall at the back
and we thrived from it.

795
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,080
Terry had seen that we needed an
extra body in midfield,

796
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,120
and did it work.

797
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,520
Finds Neville with it.
Here's the cross coming in.

798
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,080
And England scores through Shearer.

799
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,280
We needed a little bit of luck. We
got the goal, I got the header

800
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,960
from an unbelievable cross
from Gary Neville,

801
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000
and then the game changed.

802
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,480
They got a penalty.

803
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,600
And it was a very good save from
David Seaman.

804
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,120
Terry changed the formation
just to let Gazza

805
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,840
have a little bit more freedom, get
him a little bit further forward.

806
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,880
My word, it paid off.

807
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,640
And Gazza with a ball was genius,
and Terry knew that.

808
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,600
And Terry's experience in working
with him beforehand,

809
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,440
he needed all of that to get the
best out of Gazza.

810
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,000
As a player you get a front-row seat
to watch

811
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,800
the best players that I've ever been
involved in,

812
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920
and I think the best player to wear
an England shirt

813
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,960
since maybe Bobby Charlton,

814
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
illuminate a tournament.

815
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,240
It was just a sensational
piece of skill.

816
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,280
(CHEERING)2-nil.

817
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Would you believe it.

818
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,600
From one end of the field
to the other.

819
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,640
The crowd are in raptures.

820
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,960
That changed the fortunes of the
English national team

821
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,880
in that tournament.
That was it, bang.

822
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:38,040
After that game,
the press kinda eased off,

823
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,400
you know, the fans got right
behind us.

824
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,640
And there was a different
type of feeling

825
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,680
around the country.

826
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,840
I thought it was very emotional, and
all the years I've been coming here,

827
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,680
I'd never heard such a sound
and volume

828
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,720
that I heard today.

829
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,000
I mean, the crowd lifted us
even more.

830
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,920
We're delighted to welcome
Terry Venables.

831
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,480
I always thought, when I retire,
if I do something less than work,

832
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,040
I'll host a chat show or something. Yeah.

833
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:37,800
Would anything lure you
away from Queens Park Rangers?

834
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,240
Erm... I'm very happy

835
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,280
at QP...

836
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,920
I'm very happy
at Queens Park Rangers.

837
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,200
I've been there three years,
it's been three great years,

838
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,800
and I'm not looking, really,
to go beyond that.

839
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,080
The success of QPR, coupled with the
fact that I was managing director,

840
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,680
meant that I was a hair's breadth

841
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:03,160
away from my ambition to both own
and manage a football club.

842
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,520
And then, I got the call from Spain.

843
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,320
We have a meeting
with Alex Ferguson,

844
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,680
with Bobby Robson,

845
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,320
and with Terry Venables.

846
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,200
Those three that we meet,

847
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,560
we went for breakfast,

848
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,720
went for lunch and went for dinner.

849
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,840
When we had the meeting with Terry

850
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,360
we were thinking that Terry
will be the perfect coach

851
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,720
that we need at the time
in Barcelona.

852
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,680
I've always accepted challenges

853
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:49,240
and I've made no exception this time.

854
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,880
I've accepted a big one, and I
intend to do well in this job.

855
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,040
The guy said to me,
"Well, you'll only have one year.

856
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,880
If you want more than one year,
it's not possible."

857
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,880
I said, "Well, I want two years.
Otherwise it's not possible."

858
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,480
There's no point in me
making this type of break

859
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,240
and not getting
the time I should have
to make the job work.

860
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,280
He said,

861
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,480
"We'd like to think of you
to think of Barcelona
as your chica."

862
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,400
Which means your girlfriend...

863
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,000
"We'd like to think...
Do you love your chica?"

864
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,120
So, I said, "Yes, very much."

865
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,480
I said, "Very much...
Does the chica love me?"

866
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,160
He said, "Oh, yes, very much!"

867
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,840
"Well, why do you want to
get rid of me in a year?!"

868
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Everybody
keeps talking about Maradona.

869
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,960
There are other players
in Barcelona,

870
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,080
very good players.

871
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,520
What will you do?

872
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,640
Well, I am gonna make sure that
the system of play
will be my system of play

873
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,920
and it will be with the players
of Barcelona Football Club,

874
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,360
nothing to do with Maradona.

875
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Several players in my mind,

876
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:20,800
and I will decide
over the next week or two
which one will replace him.

877
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,840
Maradona went,

878
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,280
and there was
a position to be filled,

879
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,960
and I think
I know more about Archibald
than I know about anybody else.

880
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160
I just think that it's common sense.

881
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,280
This way, I'm very confident
of what Archibald
is capable of doing.

882
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Think there was about 60,000 fans
for the presentation.

883
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,240
Well, the word that Terry said
was a speech in Catalan,

884
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,520
which was unbelievable.

885
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,400
When Terry came here,

886
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,440
they said this Englishman
they found on the beach...

887
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,480
But obviously,

888
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,040
the players read the newspapers
and they don't know who he is
really either.

889
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,400
They're experienced pros,

890
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,600
they're not really looking at
Terry Venables, whoever he might be,

891
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,440
coming from
a little club in England.

892
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,640
They're not convinced.

893
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,840
They're quite tough,

894
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,840
and they put you
to the test all the time,

895
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,280
which is not a bad thing.

896
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,040
I mean, it's all
obviously very important here,

897
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,240
because the amount of competitions
in the newspapers...

898
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,240
Training ground
from day one was about defence,

899
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,520
and if I tell you that he convinced
a really experienced back four

900
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,520
on how to play his system
within ten days, two weeks...

901
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,960
That's an amazing thing to do.

902
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,880
It was a Clasico.

903
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,320
It was the first game of the season.

904
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Players thinking,

905
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:11,680
"Oh, my God,
we're away to Real Madrid!"

906
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:14,440
But Terry flipped it
on its head in one day.

907
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,440
He said to everybody
in the dressing room,

908
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,040
"Listen, this is an amazing way
to start the season.

909
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,400
We go and beat Madrid,
then we're off to a flyer."

910
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960
When we got back to the hotel,
we was having a dinner

911
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,240
and one or two people said,

912
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,920
"You won't appreciate
what's going on in Barcelona."

913
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,600
And it wasn't till the next day
they told me that they gather
in a place called the Ramblas,

914
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,280
and there's
virtually 10,000 people there
to celebrate together,

915
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,280
and the hooting of the horns
and the dancing and...

916
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,880
And you know, that would
normally happen on a cup final,

917
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,800
but this is
the first game of the season,

918
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,240
but it's Madrid,
so it's understandable!

919
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,720
Good luck...

920
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,400
♪ I've got you under my skin

921
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,000
After that,
they loved him out there.

922
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,600
He couldn't really do no wrong.

923
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,600
And then he won the league,
so he was like a god out there!

924
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,800
♪ So deep in my heart

925
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,560
♪ You're really a part of me...

926
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,320
To win the league
is very important,

927
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,520
but to win the league
after ten years...

928
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,040
It's a little more important!

929
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,680
The trouble with winning
is that people expect
MORE of the winning.

930
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,280
And then more still...

931
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,680
In football, if you win,
you are god.

932
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,440
If you lose, you are...
I don't know, el diablo!

933
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,120
He was definitely ahead of the game.

934
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,720
Hundred percent ahead of the game,

935
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,000
um, because if you're not,
you can't come here
and do what he did.

936
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:11,920
♪ And I've got you
under my skin... ♪

937
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,680
It was an amazing achievement,

938
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,280
and I don't think
he's been given
enough credit for it.

939
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,080
This is Radio Catalunya Sport.

940
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,200
With the new season
only a few weeks away,

941
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:48,480
Barcelona's manager Terry Venables
has signed two of his
British compatriots,

942
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,760
England's 25-year-old
World Cup hero Gary Lineker

943
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,680
and Welsh international Mark Hughes.

944
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,000
There's no doubt in my mind,

945
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,200
I brought here
two outstanding players.

946
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,400
But you can't expect
to come to this level
and tell a fairy tale.

947
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,760
Hopefully we'll be able to
tell a fairy tale at the end,

948
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,800
or we might not,

949
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,920
but at least we've had the chance,
all of us,

950
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,600
to pit our wits
against the situation and talent.

951
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,640
In my case, wits.
In their case, talent.

952
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,080
Terry won the league comfortably
in his first season.

953
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,040
He came in and played
a different kind of football

954
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,880
that they hadn't seen there before.

955
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,920
They loved him.

956
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,880
And then he went all the way
to the final of the European Cup.

957
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,440
It was gonna be the first win
in Barcelona's history.

958
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,200
And then it was the most dismal
penalty shoot-out...

959
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,840
Barcelona missed
every single penalty.

960
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,240
Come on, for God's sake...

961
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,600
Terry, it's a hell of a way to lose.

962
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,280
I suppose asking your feelings
is asking an obvious question, really.

963
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,800
You must be very disappointed.

964
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:06,840
Very disappointed,

965
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,840
we felt we had done enough
to win the game.

966
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,960
So, you now have to stay
for two more years!

967
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,320
You've got to win the championship
and try again!

968
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,680
Oh, dear...
Let's just get over tonight first.

969
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,120
What are you gonna do?

970
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,720
I'm gonna have a large drink,
if I can get near a bar.

971
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,280
I'll let you go.

972
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,640
Thanks very much, mate.
Thanks for putting a smile on.
Well, I tried...

973
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,400
Catalunya was in mourning.

974
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,680
They couldn't believe it.

975
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,600
The road twists and turns
when you come to a place like this.

976
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,120
You can actually win 20 on the trot,

977
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,720
lose two...it's a crisis.

978
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:47,960
The most important thing
is to get your own head right,

979
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,400
and all the other stuff around you
is superficial.

980
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,120
Terry's a great coach.

981
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,520
He was the most innovative
and thoughtful coach
that I ever played for.

982
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,040
If you close 'em hard there,

983
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,880
and as he turns around
to knock back,

984
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,480
Gary's got the angle now
to cut that off,

985
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,600
and they like to show
that they can play
in tight situations.

986
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,120
They won't just
welt it out of the ground and say...

987
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,240
You know,
that's like they've lost a mark,

988
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,080
so now they're playing around,
want to fanny a little bit,

989
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,360
you know, in the corners,

990
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,360
and that's our chance
of gettin' them.

991
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,800
He understood me,
he understood how I liked to work.

992
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,160
He understood that
I like to think about my game a lot,

993
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,000
so we talked about my game a lot.

994
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,600
And he would always
push me in training...

995
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,640
Gary!

996
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,400
You shouldn't be offside there!
Look right along the line!

997
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,920
I think Terry
revolutionised football.

998
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,360
People talk about, you know,

999
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,560
the high press in particular
as a new thing...

1000
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,600
You know, Klopp's done it
and the Germans do it...

1001
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Terry,
he was doing this 30 years ago!

1002
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,920
And it was exactly that...

1003
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Gol, gol, gol, gol, gol, gol, gol!

1004
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,880
Lineker, Lineker, Lineker,
Lineker, Lineker!

1005
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,560
Terry was constantly trying
to think of something new,

1006
00:57:58,600 --> 00:57:59,760
something innovative,

1007
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,040
something that
might break the mould,

1008
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,560
that might make a difference.

1009
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,560
We used to meet up with him
for lunch and stuff,

1010
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,560
and Manolo's restaurants,

1011
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,160
his big friend,

1012
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,080
and they were always
talking business.

1013
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,520
Most of their conversations
were about business,

1014
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,880
restaurants, property...

1015
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,880
I don't think it affects
your coaching in any way
shape or form,

1016
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,480
but it obviously affected him
further down the line,

1017
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,840
in terms of
where it kind of went wrong.

1018
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,200
I think, to be perfectly honest,

1019
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,120
losing the European Cup final
against Steaua Bucharest

1020
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,800
was kind of it for him...

1021
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,240
I think it was hard
to come back from that.

1022
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,360
For Barcelona,
it's not good enough, second.

1023
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,120
And we were second in the league.

1024
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,400
And I think after that,
his days were numbered.

1025
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,760
It doesn't take much at Barcelona
for them to get unhappy.

1026
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,000
And when you go out on the pitch,
you have to entertain them.

1027
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,720
If they're not happy,
they'll wave the white hankies.

1028
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,920
Los panuelos blancos...

1029
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,440
And when they...

1030
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,720
When they're waving them at you,
that's a bad sign!

1031
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,520
I think maybe he peaked too soon,
I don't know!

1032
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,200
It was three years we were there,

1033
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,560
so I think that was
quite a long time for Barcelona.

1034
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,680
And we were ready to come home, anyway.

1035
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,240
Terry and Dutch football...yeah.

1036
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,440
Without a doubt,
the Spanish and Dutch,

1037
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,440
I think he had a good feeling
about how they played the game,

1038
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,200
how he wanted us to play the game.

1039
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,200
I actually normally
looked a lot at Holland anyway.

1040
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,320
I knew all about them,

1041
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,160
and I wanted to see
what they're like.

1042
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:02,640
A lot of the continent,

1043
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,240
especially Holland and Germany,

1044
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,520
they seem to have
a great know-how with the ball

1045
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,360
and we feel that perhaps
we've been left behind a little bit.

1046
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,400
So, what they were doing now a lot,
players having a ball each.

1047
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,240
Really just
getting to know the ball,
getting the feel of it.

1048
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,680
These are the type of exercises
we're doing now.

1049
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,520
Holland were,
in footballing terms...

1050
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,640
I mean, they were a giant
and had some INCREDIBLE players.

1051
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,080
So, he was determined
to have his tactics right,

1052
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,360
to have his team
ready and prepared.

1053
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Terry would watch the Dutch

1054
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,840
and say the way
Bergkamp dropped off into areas,

1055
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,680
let people run beyond him...

1056
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,880
It wasn't just a 4-4-2 formation.

1057
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,840
You have to move players,
you have to ask them questions.

1058
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,760
No one thought
we could outplay the Dutch.

1059
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,360
No one.

1060
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,360
You know,
when we all go back to the hotels,

1061
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,200
sitting round the table,
have dinner,

1062
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,960
and you start thinking,
"Right... Got the Dutch comin' up.

1063
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,880
Wow... That's tough.

1064
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,400
How are we gonna play?

1065
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,160
What's the gaffer gonna do?

1066
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,440
How's he gonna set us up?"

1067
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,480
So, we're thinking,

1068
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,920
"Well, gonna be
ten men behind the ball

1069
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,600
then we'll try and nick it
and try and break and..."

1070
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,800
You know, completely the opposite.

1071
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,400
Completely the opposite...

1072
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,160
♪ It's comin' home, it's comin'...

1073
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,760
♪ Football's comin' home ♪

1074
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,360
Tonight, the Wembley crowd
and the whole nation
are behind the England team,

1075
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,640
with just a single point needed
for a place in the quarter-finals.

1076
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,560
Even now, people still talk about
how special that game was.

1077
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,160
I mean, that was probably
the best atmosphere

1078
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,600
I experienced as an England player.

1079
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,520
That night was UNBELIEVABLE.

1080
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,360
I mean,
the England flags were flying,

1081
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,400
everyone was singing,
everyone was happy.

1082
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,080
It was just an unbelievable night.

1083
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,480
I remember Terry saying to me
before we went out,

1084
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,520
"Listen, Paul,

1085
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,640
make sure you don't let Gazza
keep going on forward all the time.

1086
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,920
He's gotta pick his runs.

1087
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,360
But sometimes, you know,
I want you to go.

1088
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,200
Because they expect you
to sit there,

1089
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,800
so they're not gonna pick you up."

1090
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:02,840
And Ince...

1091
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,080
..who finds Sheringham...

1092
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,200
Sheringham then releases McManaman!

1093
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,040
So, I just picked it up,
played it once,
it went out to Macca.

1094
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,240
And as I went into
the edge of the 18-yard box,

1095
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,680
I can see him comin'
and I just did a little twist...

1096
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,200
Ince has gone down! A penalty!

1097
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,400
A penalty for England!

1098
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,000
And England
have a great opportunity!

1099
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,960
Also, I got kicked
in the balls at the same time,

1100
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,960
which wasn't nice,
but it didn't matter.

1101
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,240
It was the perfect start.

1102
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,600
Shearer now...it's 1-0 England!

1103
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,760
After that, you could just see us
walking seven foot tall.

1104
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,400
The perfect penalty!

1105
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,000
Three games, three goals,
Alan Shearer!

1106
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,120
1-0 England!

1107
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,440
Alan Shearer
was the best striker in England
at the time,

1108
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,560
without a doubt.

1109
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,600
But I'm a number ten,
I'm a striker,

1110
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,200
I need to score goals as well.

1111
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,960
Sheringham!

1112
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,160
It's 2-0!

1113
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,400
What a super header!

1114
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,240
I get asked about it so often,

1115
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,360
you know,
it must have been your best moment.

1116
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,400
How can it not be?

1117
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,160
Playing for England at Wembley
against the Dutch,

1118
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,760
destroying 'em
at their own game,

1119
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,760
playing the way we did
in a major competition...

1120
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,440
It was just the perfect scenario
to put on a performance like we did.

1121
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,320
What a night
this is proving to be
at the moment.

1122
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,840
There's a lot of emphasis
placed on teams that press now.

1123
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,040
You talk about Liverpool,
how they have done it,

1124
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,080
talk about Man City
when they lose the ball,

1125
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,120
or Barcelona...

1126
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,040
But we did that in '96 with Terry.

1127
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,560
Terry was ahead of everyone.

1128
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,360
Now Gascoigne...

1129
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,960
Maybe he'll leave his imprint
on this game tonight...

1130
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,880
That third goal
was just picture-perfect for us.

1131
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,560
Gazza slipped the ball to me,

1132
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,760
and as it rolled to me,

1133
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:53,880
I thought to myself,

1134
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,560
"Great, I've got a chance
of scoring my second goal."

1135
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:57,920
But out the corner of my eye,

1136
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,280
I can see the defender
breaking his neck
to stop me having a shot.

1137
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,240
So, I know that
if he's breaking his neck
to come from there,

1138
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,240
I know that
Shearer's gonna be on his own.

1139
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,760
Sheringham again...

1140
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,880
And Shearer... And it's 3-0!

1141
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,240
When you do things in training,

1142
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,760
the collection and the work you do
is all prepared

1143
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,520
to go from small things
to bigger things to better things,

1144
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,280
and trying to get that
EXACTLY as you want it.

1145
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,520
But we were too much for 'em.

1146
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,960
I think that summed up
what we were, who we were.

1147
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,400
It summed up the team spirit,

1148
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,680
it summed up
the way Terry wanted us to play.

1149
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,040
It was a great team goal.

1150
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,400
I was just fortune enough
to be on the end of it.

1151
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,880
We could see the Dutch going,

1152
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,920
"We're the ones
meant to be playing football here,
not England."

1153
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,320
It was one of those games
where everyone was 10/10.

1154
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,680
You had to be 10/10.

1155
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:57,720
We was enjoying it...

1156
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,760
It was just free-flowing football.

1157
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,880
It was just like
no one had a care in the world.

1158
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,720
It was just
playing to our abilities.

1159
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,560
Oh, and a deflection
and a super save!

1160
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,320
And Sheringham...it's four!

1161
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,320
What you see
is England moving the ball around
sweetly, naturally,

1162
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,440
quickly, fluently,

1163
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,640
in a way that
you've very, very rarely seen
from an England team.

1164
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,840
And if you want
the performance that defines

1165
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,960
the best of Terry Venables
as an England manager,

1166
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,560
it was that game against Holland.

1167
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,760
Because they
absolutely destroyed Holland.

1168
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,480
I've never seen a performance
like that from an England team.

1169
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,240
Never...

1170
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,400
Where does last night's satisfaction
rate in your career, Terry?

1171
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,280
Very highly!

1172
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,200
I mean, it was
very satisfying to play so well

1173
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,720
against a team so good.

1174
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,560
And it was always
gonna be a good football match,

1175
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,480
um, it was never
gonna be anything but that.

1176
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,160
But if the boys
hadn't have got it right,

1177
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,520
it would have been
us running around and us trailing.

1178
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,520
So, that was
the satisfying point of it.

1179
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,640
The previous tournament,
the 1994 World Cup in America,

1180
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,320
England hadn't qualified for it.

1181
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,920
Two years later,
they're tearing Holland to shreds
in the final group game

1182
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,120
and starting to make people think
they're going to win a trophy

1183
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,040
for the first time in 30 years.

1184
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,640
We've just done to the Dutch
what they normally do
to everybody else.

1185
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,400
We've got a chance of winning this.

1186
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,680
It's recent history now
that Spurs called me
while I was away in Florida,

1187
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,960
and before you could have said
'Chris Waddle'

1188
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,720
here I am at White Hart Lane.

1189
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,720
There's a trope
in the life of a Spurs fan.

1190
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,480
You're waiting for the messiah.

1191
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,320
Every time there's a new manager,
you think this is it!

1192
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,440
You know,
"We're gonna win the title again!"

1193
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:51,480
And we come to the day
that Terry Venables
arrives at Spurs,

1194
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,080
and he is the messiah!

1195
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,960
Now, what about Tottenham?

1196
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,080
You've had no money
to spend this summer.

1197
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,360
Thought you were gonna
give me a few quid there,
the way you said that!

1198
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:05,600
Correct...

1199
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,360
But they also lost money
in other off the field activities.

1200
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,880
That's right, that's right.

1201
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,720
You know, the debt spiral
at Spurs is in crisis really...

1202
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,240
And Spurs are in the FA Cup final.

1203
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,640
But of course,
in the background,

1204
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,320
Spurs are also going
deeper and deeper into debt.

1205
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,360
And unbeknown to the fans,

1206
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,800
the night before the cup final,

1207
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,160
Terry Venables
was trying to get together
a consortium to buy the club

1208
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,520
off of Irving Scholar.

1209
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,800
Paul Stewart
with a chance for Spurs!

1210
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,240
And the equaliser!

1211
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,240
Spurs have won the FA Cup
for a record eighth time!

1212
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,800
Here's the man...
Look at Terry Venables!

1213
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,160
Goodness me...

1214
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,000
Even though
we were celebrating in style,

1215
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,280
standing there,

1216
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,720
I couldn't help thinking,

1217
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,920
"Would all be well for the future
of this great club?"

1218
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,400
I happened to know Terry Venables,

1219
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,080
so I just picked up the phone
to ask to speak to him...

1220
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,360
..uh, knowing that
he was kind of putting together
some consortium of some kind.

1221
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,040
And that's it...

1222
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,640
Mad, no?

1223
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,480
The Spurs manager Terry Venables

1224
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,680
and millionaire businessman
Alan Sugar

1225
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,440
have taken control
of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club.

1226
01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:30,560
When he took on Spurs
and went in on the first day,

1227
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,840
he had a nasty surprise,

1228
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:38,840
because I think he found now
that he was now moving with people
from an ENTIRELY different world.

1229
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,840
Well, I think that Terry,
in hindsight must have thought...

1230
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,360
"Oh, there's
this rich bloke coming along

1231
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,960
who wants to own a football club."

1232
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,400
And so, if you think that,

1233
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:49,520
you can also think,

1234
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,280
"Stick him in the corner,
give him a couple of seats there.

1235
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,880
That'll be it... He'll be happy.

1236
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,400
Give us the money and off we go."

1237
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:03,640
Alan Sugar had thought
Terry was going to manage
the football side,

1238
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,480
while he, Alan Sugar,
looked after the business side.

1239
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:13,280
But then Terry announces
that he's not gonna be
a hands-on manager.

1240
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,480
And this isn't
what Alan Sugar was expecting.

1241
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,240
He said to me,
"There can't be two bosses."

1242
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,680
And it was just a simple matter
that we clashed a lot.

1243
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,120
We did clash,

1244
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,720
perhaps worse
than I've ever clashed
with anyone else.

1245
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:34,760
It's Terry's heart's desire
to become the first
former footballer

1246
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,680
to have control of his own club.

1247
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,400
And that's where
it starts to go wrong.

1248
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:43,600
Total clash of egos...

1249
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,520
I mean, you can imagine, can't you?

1250
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,000
Come December '91,
Alan writes a new shares issue,

1251
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,120
which gives him
more control of the club.

1252
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,160
The relationship between the two men
dissolved into bickering

1253
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,360
and boardroom rows.

1254
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,200
Off the pitch,
things had got so bad

1255
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,720
either the chairman
or his chief executive had to go.

1256
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,720
You can see that
this is gonna get worse and worse,

1257
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,760
and it DOES get worse and worse,

1258
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:15,800
to the point of a board meeting
at White Hart Lane

1259
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,160
where Alan Sugar...

1260
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,960
..hands Terry Venables a letter,

1261
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,560
asking him to resign,
sell his shares

1262
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,000
and leave the club.

1263
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:29,520
This is a huge shock, isn't it?

1264
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,760
Mister Venables
is no longer employed
by Tottenham Hotspur's PLC.

1265
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,200
We don't want him there,

1266
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,400
the board of directors
don't want him there,

1267
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:44,160
and if I have
anything to do with it,

1268
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,080
he is not coming back there at all.

1269
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,440
Sugar voted to dismiss me,

1270
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:52,440
and I am talking
and have been talking to solicitors.

1271
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:56,880
Um, and I'm advised that's all
I can say at this moment,

1272
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:57,920
I'm afraid.

1273
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,440
He wouldn't let it drop.

1274
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:01,520
He wouldn't give in.

1275
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,840
And there was a lot of dirt
being thrown around about him,

1276
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,200
which wasn't true.

1277
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,400
And I think
that damaged his reputation.

1278
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,120
The fans' favourite
went to the High Court
to seek reinstatement,

1279
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,560
but the judges were unmoved.

1280
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,800
The judge just says,

1281
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,080
"Well, you know,
there's no reason why Spurs
can't sack their chief executive,

1282
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,200
so that's it..."

1283
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,680
Venables is thrown overboard.

1284
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,720
I think I've always got on well
with football people,

1285
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,000
even the press,
if they're football people...

1286
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,600
The ones I've fallen out with
and I don't get on with
are not football people.

1287
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,680
The way it ended at Spurs
was his lowest point.

1288
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,440
I think he was, um, hurt.

1289
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:48,440
I think it was
the worst time in his career.

1290
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,000
You respect him
as a football man
but not as a businessman?

1291
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,040
Well...

1292
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,560
No one's ever disputed
his footballing ability.

1293
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,040
We've got another game to play
against a very good opposition.

1294
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,720
Um, they're developing all the time,
but we've laid our plans out

1295
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,240
and hopefully we're in fine fettle.

1296
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:24,920
There was huge expectation of us,
going into the Spain game.

1297
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,680
Everyone believed
we were gonna go
and steamroller them.

1298
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:34,520
If we felt as though
life was gonna be easy,

1299
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,960
we were brought
straight back down to earth again.

1300
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,560
They were
the better team on the day,
no doubt about that.

1301
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,240
And the flag has stayed down!

1302
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,840
Manjarin, there's a chance here!

1303
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,040
Oh, and David Seaman
right out of his goal

1304
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,480
and Pearce coming back
to save the day!

1305
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:51,800
It wasn't the best spectacle.

1306
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,320
It was a grind, again.

1307
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,360
Maybe two very tactical managers
cancelling each other out.

1308
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,080
As the final whistle goes,

1309
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,120
and what we're gonna get now
is a penalty shoot-out.

1310
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,040
I didn't wanna put pressure on 'em,
you know?

1311
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,320
You know what it's like,

1312
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,240
people think,
"I can't take a penalty!"

1313
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,440
Those that want to take a penalty,
it's great,

1314
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:13,040
and you know through experience,

1315
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,240
if you make someone take a penalty
that don't want to take a penalty,

1316
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,080
he will say,
"I can't take penalties."

1317
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,200
Or you see it in their eyes...
Yeah, right.

1318
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,280
So, it's a matter of
what's between the ears...

1319
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,680
Two hours of football had ended.

1320
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,600
We've come to a situation
where we all joined together.

1321
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,360
I knew that I had to get to Terry
and put my services forward.

1322
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,480
I couldn't live with myself
if I didn't, you know,
with my history.

1323
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,360
Stuart Pearce,

1324
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,720
who's done the job
for Nottingham Forest...

1325
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,000
Can he do it for England?

1326
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,880
He can't!

1327
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,440
In 1990,

1328
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:54,800
Pearce is one of two
England players to miss penalties

1329
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,400
against Germany
at the end of a World Cup.

1330
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:03,960
We were all aware of
what had happened
in the '90 World Cup,

1331
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,080
and for him
to put himself forward...

1332
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,440
And he wanted to,

1333
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:10,280
you could tell
there was a drive there,

1334
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,040
you could tell there was a hurt...

1335
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,440
I went straight up to Terry
and said,

1336
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:16,040
"Look, I'll take the third one."

1337
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,080
Terry looked back at me and went,
"Are you fuckin' sure?"

1338
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,200
I went, "Yeah."
He said, "OK, lovely."

1339
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,880
So, we come to
the penalty shoot-out...

1340
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,400
Shearer first to go
against Zubizarreta,

1341
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:29,840
and he does it, 1-0!

1342
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,240
He's missed it!

1343
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,000
David Platt now for England...

1344
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,040
2-0!

1345
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,560
This is a big,
big penalty now for Spain.

1346
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,400
Oh, and he took it very cleverly...

1347
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,360
Well, Stuart Pearce is up.

1348
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,560
Nobody really
wants to see him miss it...

1349
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,960
At Italia '90,
you saw him exposed and heartbroken.

1350
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,080
And you thought,

1351
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,280
"Let's hope he finds
a way out of that one day."

1352
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,120
Six years later,
there he goes again,

1353
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,720
walks up to the penalty spot...

1354
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,760
I mean, I was nervous...

1355
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,200
But I had a feeling that
the stadium was more nervous
than I was.

1356
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,320
When I saw Stuart Pearce
walking down to take a penalty,

1357
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,760
I was like,
"Oh, my God... Please score!"

1358
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,440
I've never wanted anybody
to score so much!

1359
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,800
The whole of the stadium
just held their breath...

1360
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,360
They were on my journey with me.

1361
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,280
Three out of three for England!

1362
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,920
There was a split second of calm

1363
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,680
and then a reaction
of just sheer relief.

1364
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,440
Wow, he's fired up for that!

1365
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,520
It wasn't his best penalty,
he'll tell you that,

1366
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:56,560
I'm sure he will!

1367
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,240
He didn't strike it brilliantly!

1368
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,160
But it went in,

1369
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,200
and then when he starts swearing
and "COME ON"...

1370
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,320
He's looking right at me
and I'm like...

1371
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:06,440
"Oh, God!"

1372
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,360
We were all so proud of him,

1373
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,560
that he buried it
with the passion that he did,

1374
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,760
and celebrated it in style as well.

1375
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,480
It's the only picture
that involves football
I've got on my wall in my house.

1376
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,240
And it reminds me
of the journey I was on.

1377
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,520
And it probably reminds me
of learning from failure.

1378
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,360
Terry, what a roller-coaster,
what a result!

1379
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,720
Yeah, it was everything
that you would want
in an event like that.

1380
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,760
I think everyone
got their money's worth,

1381
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,760
guts and courage and passion,

1382
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,040
everything that you needed
to dig out a result.

1383
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,040
And I'm not really apologising
for winning on penalties...

1384
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,480
I've been on the other end of that,
and it's fierce.

1385
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,000
There were people
who found Venables difficult,

1386
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,600
there was no doubt about that.

1387
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:16,160
They did not feel
that he should be the coach
of the England national team.

1388
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,120
Terry Venables informed today
the Football Association

1389
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:25,880
that he intends to leave his job
as coach of the senior England team

1390
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,800
at the end of his contract

1391
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,400
after
the European Championship finals
this June.

1392
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,040
As it drifted into Euro '96,

1393
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,160
every single legal action, virtually,

1394
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,520
apart from the tiny ones,

1395
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,360
were still there,
every libel action,

1396
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,360
including actions
with Spurs and Alan Sugar.

1397
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,200
And we just had to
keep managing them,

1398
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,720
and I don't quite know
how he managed to separate it

1399
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,720
and keep his sort of
brave, happy face on
through the football.

1400
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,080
I think, without the legal issues,
he'd have got a four-year contract.

1401
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,000
Every other manager,
after two years,

1402
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,360
they would extend his contract.

1403
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,560
But the FA was just reticent.

1404
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,760
He was so upset
that they didn't extend it
to the World Cup.

1405
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,120
He felt betrayed.

1406
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,520
There were individuals
on the international committee

1407
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,800
that clearly
didn't want Terry to carry on.

1408
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,400
And Terry wasn't happy with that,

1409
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:23,760
he didn't want to be
fighting that battle as well.

1410
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,360
We thought with all
the battles going on outside,
it should be unanimous.

1411
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,200
And he didn't feel
he'd done anything

1412
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,040
to show he wasn't the right person
to be the England manager
through the World Cup.

1413
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,600
Thank you, Terry.
Thank you.

1414
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:40,520
The honest answer to the question of
did Terry regret his decision...

1415
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,800
I suspect deep down he regretted it.

1416
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:45,800
But his...

1417
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,800
He had pride,
he thought he was right.

1418
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,600
It's like...why?

1419
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:54,720
Because he's so good!

1420
01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:56,440
You know?

1421
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:59,440
And it was disappointing
for that reason
that we're losing him.

1422
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,760
So, it was a strange feeling.

1423
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,680
Obviously,
I would want to leave the job
on a successful note

1424
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:12,880
and I will be doing
everything in my power
to, uh, make it successful.

1425
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,680
They suddenly realised,
the FA board,

1426
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:23,720
that they had thrown away
the architect of England's
arguably greatest night in 30 years.

1427
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,760
Who was gonna be blamed for it?

1428
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,200
They would have been terrified
of England winning!

1429
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,840
It was definitely
a bittersweet feeling.

1430
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,520
Terry was about to leave us,

1431
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,360
and we all felt like
we deserved to win this tournament
not only for ourselves,

1432
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,640
but for Terry as well
and what he'd given us all.

1433
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,240
Terry, it's the biggest game
in England for 30 years.

1434
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,760
How comfortably
does that sit on your shoulders?

1435
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,120
Well, it's obviously high pressured.

1436
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,640
Uh, there's a lot of expectancy.

1437
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,080
Everyone also knows
what a good side they are,

1438
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:14,520
but we're ready.

1439
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,640
What does it mean to you personally?

1440
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,320
Well, it means the same to me
as I should think it means
to every Englishman.

1441
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,240
We're all very proud of the way
the team's gone so far,

1442
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,520
and we hope to continue.

1443
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,080
Terry wanted us to relax,

1444
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,120
he wanted us to go out
and try and enjoy it
as much as we could.

1445
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:36,000
He wanted us to go
and take the game to the opposition,

1446
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,760
defend when we had to,
stick together when we had to.

1447
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,360
He had us ready for all of that.

1448
01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:45,320
For us,
it's the biggest game
of our careers.

1449
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,680
Um, and really and truly...

1450
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,040
Everybody's saying
how well we've done
to reach the point that we have,

1451
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:52,560
but it's not good enough for us.

1452
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,400
We won't be content
unless we pick that trophy up
on Sunday.

1453
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,520
We knew the magnitude of the game.

1454
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,440
Terry didn't have to
manage expectation,
you know?

1455
01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:02,720
It was Germany...

1456
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,400
England by then
actually deep down had developed
an inferiority complex,

1457
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:07,600
in relation to Germany.

1458
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,640
English football
had stuttered along for 30 years,

1459
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,480
and German football
had raced over the horizon.

1460
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:19,240
So, deep down,
there was an envy and an insecurity
in the England setup.

1461
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,560
So, at the start of it,

1462
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,480
there was a justifiable sense
that this might be the end
of this 30-year turnaround

1463
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,840
and England could turn this
back in their favour.

1464
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,560
We've got
the whole nation behind us.

1465
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:32,920
Everyone was with us.

1466
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,440
We created
an unbelievable atmosphere,

1467
01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:36,880
a party atmosphere.

1468
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,520
And I think the whole country
was hugely proud.

1469
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,120
It's escalating,
every time we played,

1470
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,320
every day you woke up...

1471
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:47,520
You're reading the papers,
you're watching the news,
watching TV programmes.

1472
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,960
Everyone's talking about it,

1473
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,240
"It's gonna happen,
football's comin' home."

1474
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,840
And then you'd turn up at Wembley

1475
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,440
and there'd be
just thousands of people
all waiting

1476
01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:57,800
just to see the coach
going up into the tunnel!

1477
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,240
People hanging out of houses,
hanging out of pubs,

1478
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,920
on the streets the cars
were stopping and beeping.

1479
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,200
More police patrol
to get us there...

1480
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,400
And you know, you could sense it.

1481
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:09,320
You could sense
it was just electric.

1482
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,320
You could sense
that everybody believed.

1483
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,080
We felt we really
got the detail right,

1484
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,680
we felt we could outplay them
the way they were playing

1485
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,040
and they way we were set up.

1486
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,080
And there was a steely attitude,

1487
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,120
knowing that
this game can be ours this time.

1488
01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:28,200
And I really did feel confident, quietly...

1489
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,160
Well, I think a lot of those
memorable moments in your life...

1490
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,080
You really vividly see the colours.

1491
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,480
And Wembley,
being as green as it is,

1492
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,240
the colours in the stands,

1493
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,840
you can really sense
those pictures in your mind.

1494
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,440
♪ It's comin' home,
it's comin' home

1495
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:51,880
♪ It's comin' home... ♪

1496
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,760
England have to switch...

1497
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,360
Ince with the volley!

1498
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,480
Fisted away by Kopke!

1499
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,000
That was a terrific strike
by Paul Ince!

1500
01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:09,880
A bright start for England...

1501
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,720
Gascoigne with the corner.

1502
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,160
This one was a set piece.

1503
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,920
This one was something
we'd worked on in training.

1504
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,080
In towards the near post,
a little flick-on...

1505
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:21,440
It's a goal for England!

1506
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:23,920
Alan Shearer!

1507
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,920
Shearer has done it again!

1508
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,440
His fifth goal in five games!

1509
01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:31,280
Delight for the English fans

1510
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,480
and THE perfect start!

1511
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,680
We've been really deadly
from set pieces,

1512
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,280
but of all people to leave unmarked,
Alan Shearer!

1513
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,600
In your naive player's mind,

1514
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,720
you think,
"We're off and running here!"

1515
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,320
You know,
"Here we go, the dream's unfolding."

1516
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,320
We couldn't have hoped
for anything better than that,
could we?

1517
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,360
We really couldn't.

1518
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,640
And really, payment in full
for Terry Venables.

1519
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,360
There was a mentality
between both teams, I think,

1520
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,400
that whoever won this
picks up the trophy.

1521
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:03,480
Here's Reuter...

1522
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,040
Moller's in there,
but he's surrounded by grey shirts.

1523
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,680
I remember the ball got crossed in
and he just had a side-footer,

1524
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,680
but it was like
a side-footer with pace...

1525
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:22,200
It's 1-1!

1526
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,280
Well, that is a major blow...

1527
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,240
It proper flew into the goal,
you know?

1528
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:29,520
And I've got no chance...

1529
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,560
After that, it was tight...

1530
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,600
They could have won it,
should have won it.

1531
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,880
We could have won it,
should have won it...

1532
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,720
Shearer's header! Just wide!

1533
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,920
Then we go into golden goal time...

1534
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,320
They were getting tired.

1535
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,840
Played down the line...

1536
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,960
And Darren Anderton
was coming at the angle,

1537
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,720
and I just think
he's kinda scuffed it.

1538
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,240
And Anderton...!

1539
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:02,440
Oh, he's hit the post!

1540
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:04,760
They can't believe it, look...

1541
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,720
I think the ball
was just behind him,

1542
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,320
he tried to get his foot round it

1543
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,600
and just managed to
get his foot round it enough,

1544
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,120
but only enough to hit the post.

1545
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,480
Basically,
the post is there and he's there!

1546
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:16,920
He can't miss it!

1547
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,840
Um, and he bloody did...

1548
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,760
England get possession,
played now to Teddy Sheringham.

1549
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:27,120
The chance
that everyone remembers for me
is the one that Gazza had.

1550
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,800
I still have nightmares
about that now.

1551
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,480
Shearer on the far side...

1552
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:32,520
On for the volley...

1553
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:33,560
Oh!

1554
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,360
It was just that split second
where Gazza stops...

1555
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,960
JUST for that split second,

1556
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,640
and that's why he's not able
to get the contact on it.

1557
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,000
Gascoigne went flying in there,

1558
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,600
and it looked as though
it needed just the merest touch!

1559
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,520
You know, a little toe poke
would have had us in ecstasy.

1560
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,880
But... Ifs and buts, innit?

1561
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,000
Up and down the country,

1562
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,120
if you're not
on the edge of your seat,

1563
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:07,960
I'm sure that's where you are now.

1564
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,160
There were some
fantastic penalties that night.

1565
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,840
You know, one after the other,
Shearer got us on our way.

1566
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,440
1-0!

1567
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,360
Pearcey...

1568
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:21,480
Gazza...

1569
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:22,520
Platty...

1570
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,000
So, I'm on penalty number five.

1571
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,960
I've gotta tell you,
it's the most nervous I've been
on a football pitch EVER.

1572
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,480
So, Teddy Sheringham...

1573
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,080
Long run-up...

1574
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,000
But will it be
a successful conclusion?

1575
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,760
There's your answer!

1576
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,160
The relief and the ecstasy
all in one feeling...

1577
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,520
Was just sort of drained,
but elated at the same time

1578
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,360
that I'm not gonna be remembered
for the rest of my life

1579
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,400
as that fella
that missed the penalty.

1580
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,200
Once you go past five,
you're now searching...

1581
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,800
But I knew in my mind
who was gonna be
my next two or three people.

1582
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,640
And yet, I didn't
wanna put pressure on 'em.

1583
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,680
You want volunteers, really.

1584
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,320
I just remember Bryan Robson
coming up to me and saying,

1585
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,440
"If it goes to a sixth penalty,
are you happy to take one?"

1586
01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:19,440
And you know,

1587
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:21,800
I've been captain
of every club I've played for

1588
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,400
and I've always felt responsibility.

1589
01:27:24,440 --> 01:27:28,440
And if you're asked to step forward,
in my head you step forward.

1590
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,440
Everyone wants to know, always,
about who didn't wanna take 'em.

1591
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:36,480
I will take that
to the grave with me.

1592
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:37,600
I won't... I won't...

1593
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,800
Because we were
collective responsibility
right the way through.

1594
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,560
But Southgate,
he was looking at me,

1595
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,560
where one or two maybe wasn't...

1596
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,920
And, uh,
he's a good striker of the ball.

1597
01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:52,640
Well, he's only just recently
forced his way into
the England side,

1598
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,000
Southgate...

1599
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:55,920
Norden,
they call him at Aston Villa.

1600
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,440
He does everything right.

1601
01:27:57,480 --> 01:27:59,560
Well, let's hope
he can do this right as well.

1602
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:02,840
When Gareth walked up, I was like,

1603
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,880
"Hang on a minute,

1604
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,320
I've not even seen him
take a penalty in training!"

1605
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,640
Saved it!

1606
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,160
Oh, my word...

1607
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,680
The period straight afterwards,
my head was scrambled, really...

1608
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,880
All you can think about is the team,

1609
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,920
all the supporters...

1610
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,440
Um, the fact that you know
the country had been on this high

1611
01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:35,440
and ultimately,

1612
01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:38,720
as the person
on the spot at the time,

1613
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,240
you feel responsible for that.

1614
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,040
And suddenly,

1615
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,720
England's dreams of European glory
are beginning to fade...

1616
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,480
UNLESS David Seaman
can bring off a miraculous save

1617
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,680
from Andreas Moller.

1618
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,280
When Moller comes up,
I don't feel good about it.

1619
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,720
And the Germans go into the final!

1620
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:06,880
And England are out!

1621
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:13,960
I could only feel for Southgate,

1622
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,480
because you just feel like
you've let everyone down.

1623
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,080
You don't even think about yourself,
you just think...

1624
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:24,680
And I just really wanted to
give him a big cuddle.

1625
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,520
I can kind of recall him
saying that...

1626
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:30,600
You know,

1627
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,880
"Look, this is football...
It's not down to you."

1628
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,480
And of course,

1629
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,160
that isn't really
registering at the time.

1630
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,160
But he had never changed, you know?

1631
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,440
You didn't see any anger,
disgust, disappointment...

1632
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,360
He'd been through
so much in his life

1633
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,280
that I think he had that context...

1634
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,040
But it wasn't to be.

1635
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,080
It wasn't to be.

1636
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:02,920
It wasn't gonna be.

1637
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,520
Everything ends
with ONE kick of the ball.

1638
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,760
Until that final penalty
from Germany goes in,

1639
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,040
England can still win it,
Venables is still manager.

1640
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:19,400
And a fraction of a second
between the ball crossing the line

1641
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:21,080
ends everything...it's gone.

1642
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,560
This team
has taken this crowd with them,

1643
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:25,760
they've won them over.

1644
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,040
And I tell you something,

1645
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,040
they've put English football
right back on the map,
this team.

1646
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,520
Normally,
it was sort of dragged to an end.

1647
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:39,280
This one was just
guillotined in ONE action...

1648
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,560
Police in riot gear
made several attempts

1649
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,480
to disperse the rioters
from the fountains,

1650
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,400
yet many seemed intent
on breaking through the police line,

1651
01:30:53,440 --> 01:30:55,320
trying to head for the West End.

1652
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:57,920
Nearby,

1653
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,920
two Ministry of Defence
police officers
had to run from their patrol car.

1654
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,200
Police described the violence
as a sad event

1655
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,400
which has marred
a successful tournament,

1656
01:31:06,440 --> 01:31:10,400
but blamed the disturbances
on a relatively small mob
who are not genuine fans.

1657
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,560
We went back to the hotel,

1658
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,760
it was a real sombre place,
as you could expect.

1659
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:22,840
People had a few drinks,

1660
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,680
I gave myself
the luxury to have a drink

1661
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,280
and sat with Gareth
and a few of the boys,
you know...

1662
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,560
And there was a real great
togetherness amongst the group,

1663
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,240
amongst everybody there.

1664
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,760
But we knew how close we were,

1665
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,520
and that was the frustration.

1666
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:42,440
I had to get up early
the next morning,

1667
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:43,480
to do whatever,

1668
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,840
an interview
at the end of the drive...

1669
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,760
And the hotel did look slightly
as if it had been ransacked!

1670
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:55,160
And now players
are coming down and leaving...

1671
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:56,680
And that was very sad.

1672
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:02,600
And now I've got the responsibility
of taking Terry Venables
to the LAST press conference.

1673
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:05,360
And when we got there...

1674
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,280
..his, uh,
performance was fantastic.

1675
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:16,000
We've shown that we've no need
to be frightened of anybody
in the world anymore.

1676
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,040
We've played
Holland, Spain and Germany,

1677
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,080
three of the four favourites,

1678
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,920
and we can be very proud
with the way we've dealt with that.

1679
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,520
Uh, I wouldn't have changed anything
except the result.

1680
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,800
There were a few tears...

1681
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,160
Quite emotional about it, still.

1682
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:35,200
Um...

1683
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,520
Because that finally WAS
the end of that era.

1684
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,880
But boy,
it had been a fantastic ride.

1685
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,040
♪ There must be lights

1686
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:55,960
Sorry, is it too early?

1687
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:05,080
♪ There must be lights
burning brighter somewhere

1688
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:11,040
♪ Got to be birds flying higher

1689
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,640
♪ In a sky more blue

1690
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:18,840
♪ If I can dream of a better land

1691
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,880
♪ Where all my brothers
walk hand in hand

1692
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,320
♪ Tell me why

1693
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:24,360
♪ Why...

1694
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:25,560
♪ Oh, why

1695
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:26,600
♪ Why...

1696
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:31,040
♪ Oh, why can't my dream come true?

1697
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:34,720
♪ Oh, why...

1698
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,120
Terry's story
is a bit of a Greek tragedy.

1699
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,640
It is hubris

1700
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,480
and then it's Terry
meeting his nemesis.

1701
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,480
Nemesis in the form of Alan Sugar.

1702
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,520
I just remember sitting with Terry,

1703
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,200
and him saying that
this journey of life,
it's not a rehearsal.

1704
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,960
I just thought
it was a brilliant moment

1705
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,880
that captured everything about him.

1706
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:08,000
♪ Why won't that sun appear?

1707
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:10,040
When he was working,

1708
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,040
he was gonna do
everything he could to win.

1709
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:14,960
But also,
he was gonna enjoy his life.

1710
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:19,760
There's been some things
I've been able to do

1711
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,800
that will go with me
to the end of my life,

1712
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,240
and I suppose,

1713
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,080
in those moments
where I've had those choices,

1714
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,760
I've thought about
Terry's words quite a lot.

1715
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,240
Just his smile...you know?

1716
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,520
That... That smile, you know!

1717
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,520
And it was just...
I'll never forget it!

1718
01:34:40,480 --> 01:34:43,880
I feel very pleased and privileged,
in a way,

1719
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,800
that I was able to
call him my friend.

1720
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:52,040
Saying goodbye to Terry at the end
was very emotional, I think,

1721
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,480
for a lot of players.

1722
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:59,960
He embedded the foundations
for us to be a very good
footballing nation.

1723
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,200
We were back on song,
we were feared again.

1724
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,720
It was never quite the same
after Terry went...

1725
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,160
♪ While I can think...

1726
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,080
♪ While I can talk

1727
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,360
♪ While I can stand...

1728
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,720
I think the way
Terry would like to remembered

1729
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:23,000
is for grandfathers or fathers
to see a picture of him

1730
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,280
and for them to point to it and say,

1731
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:26,720
"See that man there?

1732
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,080
He was the greatest
England manager we've ever had."

1733
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,160
♪ While I can stand and walk...

1734
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,600
♪ If I can dream...

1735
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,200
♪ Right now

1736
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:47,240
♪ Oh, yeah! ♪

1737
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,360
♪ That's life

1738
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,400
♪ That's life...

1739
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:15,600
♪ That's what all the people say

1740
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:22,400
♪ You're ridin' high in April,
shot down in May

1741
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:27,640
♪ But I know
I'm gonna change that tune

1742
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:33,920
♪ When I'm back on top,
back on top in June

1743
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:36,480
♪ I said that's life...

1744
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,360
♪ That's life...

1745
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,120
♪ And as funny as it may seem

1746
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:48,120
♪ Some people get their kicks
stompin' on a dream

1747
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,280
♪ But I don't let it,
let it get me down

1748
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:59,800
♪ Cos this fine old world,
it's keeps spinnin' around

1749
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,840
♪ I've been a puppet, a pauper,
a pirate, a poet

1750
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,760
♪ A pawn and a king

1751
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,440
♪ I've been up and down
and over and out

1752
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,120
♪ And I know one thing...

1753
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:19,880
♪ Each time I find myself
flat on my face

1754
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:27,000
♪ I pick myself up
and get back in the race

1755
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:28,600
♪ That's life

1756
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,200
♪ That's life...

1757
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,480
♪ I tell you, I can't deny it

1758
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,440
♪ I thought of quittin', baby... ♪

1759
01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:43,440
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