1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,440 TERRY: As far back as I can remember I've always wanted to play football. 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,280 I've always wanted to make an impression on football. 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,360 (CROWD CHEERING) 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,400 (INDISTINCT COMMENTARY) 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,440 It's just a great feeling I have for the game 8 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:35,000 and for the people involved in it. They're my kind of people. 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,520 COMMENTATOR: We've seen the exhaustion. 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,000 Looking back, I think I've had just desserts 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,040 for what I've given to the game. 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,440 COMMENTATOR: The one thing we should say is fair 13 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:51,040 is that England at least have had some practice at penalties. 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,440 But there were so many things along that road. 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,720 Their life is not an easy thing. 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,240 You can't expect to tell a fairy tale. 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,960 Hopefully we'll able to tell a fairy tale at the end. 18 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,520 ♪ There must be lights burning brighter 19 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,560 ♪ Somewhere 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,320 ♪ Got to be birds flying higher 21 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,280 ♪ In a sky more blue 22 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:40,800 ♪ If I can dream of a better land 23 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,320 ♪ Where all my brothers walk hand in hand 24 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,800 ♪ Tell me why, oh, why 25 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,440 ♪ Oh, why can't my dream come true 26 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,880 ♪ Oh, why 27 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:05,120 ♪ There must be peace and understanding sometime 28 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:13,640 ♪ Strong winds of promise that will blow away the doubt and fear 29 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,280 ♪ If I can dream of a warmer sun 30 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,000 ♪ Where hope keeps shining on everyone 31 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,480 ♪ Tell me why, oh, why 32 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:33,000 ♪ Oh, why won't that sun appear ♪ 33 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,320 From the working classes you get a bit convinced 34 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,280 that opportunities are for others, 35 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,920 and I think everyone's inclined to 36 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,280 narrow their opportunities down as opposed to... 37 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,680 opening them up and saying, "I can do anything 38 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,320 if I really want it enough, 39 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,360 if I really wanna try at it", you know. 40 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,360 And I've just been a guy with that sort of attitude. 41 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Even when I'm sleeping my feet are still going. 42 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,120 There's plenty of time to rest when you're dead. (LAUGHS) 43 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,600 With Terry, you had this colour in his life, 44 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,920 you knew there were these other sides to 45 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,640 businesses and inventions. 46 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:25,560 He into trying things and I'm sure he saw himself 47 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,920 as a bit of an entrepreneur. 48 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,640 But football was his game. 49 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,760 I think there was a definite arrogance about Terry. 50 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,800 I mean, why wouldn't you be arrogant. 51 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,400 You know, you're like some sort of god, in a way. 52 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,880 There's always the opportunity for people to say, 53 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,880 "Well, you should've focused just fully on the football 54 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,280 and it would've been better", but maybe it could've been worse. 55 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,760 I understand why he wanted to be more than just a coach 56 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,640 or the manager. I don't think it worked out well for him. 57 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,440 Terry's story is a bit of a Greek tragedy. 58 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,720 You know, he really aspired to power to greatness. 59 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,240 He wanted to be top of the world, 60 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,200 and then, you know, suddenly, reality sets in. 61 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,520 What we don't want is to be caught quick break. 62 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,840 Oh, fucking hell, we are in trouble. 63 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,320 COMMENTATOR: And it's gone in! (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 64 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,560 You talk till you're fucking blue in the face. 65 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,200 The mistakes was so severe. 66 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Not strong enough on the ball. 67 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Graham was very vocal. Tactically, he was decent, 68 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,760 but it just didn't work. You know, coming off the back 69 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,120 of 1990, getting through to the semi-finals, 70 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,160 it just fizzled out. 71 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,120 COMMENTATOR: And it's a goal. (INAUDIBLE) 72 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,720 Do you ever have thoughts about your own job and say, 73 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,840 "Hey, it's virtually impossible to do this job successfully 74 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,680 - under the present system"? - No, I mean, I signed a four-year contract 75 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,120 with the Football Association. That doesn't say that it's still not 76 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,480 virtually impossible to do the job in the way 77 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,920 that one would like it to do. Of course, some previous managers 78 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,800 have said the same. I'm not the first England manager to say this. 79 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:26,720 But I certainly don't throw in the towel. 80 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Don't need to knock it first time. 81 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,560 I mean, looking at all things, from my own personal point of view, 82 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,600 looking at how things have happened, 83 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,560 looking at availability or non availability of players, 84 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,720 I'm satisfied that I've done the job to the best of my ability. 85 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,760 (CHANTING) 86 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,640 The whole idea of the England team 87 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,560 was kind of under assault, really. 88 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,520 But it was a regime that tumbled into the abyss quite quickly. 89 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,880 I think if you talk to the players, they were on the floor, 90 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,120 emotionally, spiritually. They had taken such a battering. 91 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,600 It was a very harsh, strong tabloid circulation war 92 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,840 going on at the time, and he was very much 93 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,640 in the crosshairs of that. And because he was such a sort of 94 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,360 decent, dignified person, I think it really hurt him. 95 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,400 What's the problem with everybody? What's the matter with everybody? 96 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Come on, come on, brace yourselves. 97 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Get on with it, look for your win. Oh, Rob, I can't continue 98 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,560 giving... Rob, I can't have... 99 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Listen, Rob, I cannot have faces like yours 100 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,480 around me now. Now, I'll continue... (LAUGHTER) I can't. 101 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,960 I can't, Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob, 102 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,360 Rob, I'll tell you this now... 103 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,040 If you were one of my players, with a face like that, 104 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,200 I'd kick you out. You would never have a chance, son. 105 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Come on, bit more of a smile, Rob, be a bit more... Hey? 106 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,120 - Happy. (LAUGHTER) Hey? - I am... 107 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,800 The whole nation rests on whether Rob Shepherd is happy or not. 108 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,400 I hope I'm smiling tomorrow, I really do. 109 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,920 I really do, I tell you, but I just worry. 110 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,080 COMMENTATOR: England needing to win by a seven-goal margin, 111 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,960 and hope that Poland can do them a favour 112 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,640 in Poznan against Holland. I'm sure you're aware now 113 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,680 of what's at stake. And number 9 picks the ball up straight away 114 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,040 and San Marino launch the first attack. And a mistake 115 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,240 by Stuart Pearce, and San Marino have scored. 116 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,280 I don't believe this. 117 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,880 The newspapers tell me that nobody wants the England manager's job now, 118 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,520 supposing Graham Taylor resigns or is sacked, or whatever happens 119 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,000 to him. Maybe he'll continue, who knows, we don't know yet. 120 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,960 You were always tipped but you haven't been tipped lately. 121 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,440 I'm resting. I'm enjoying myself at last. 122 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,240 (LAUGHS) Would you take it? Would it be a job that would interest you, 123 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,240 supposing all things were equal? I tell you what I'll do, 124 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,280 I'll sit on the fence. (LAUGHS) 125 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,640 What would you be doing if you weren't gonna be playing football? 126 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,360 I have no idea. It's all I can do. 127 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Dagenham was alive 128 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,120 with football people. 129 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Bobby Moore. When Bobby grew up with us 130 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,000 he was a couple of years older than Terry and I. 131 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Jimmy Greaves. Jimmy wasn't a Dagenham boy 132 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,920 but he lived at Hainault, and Jimmy was just a lovely, lovely man. 133 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Terry was going to be 134 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,160 as big as any of them. 135 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,400 Football was a way to get on. 136 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,480 How old are you now?16. 137 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,760 - But football's your whole life? - Yes. 138 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Do you want it to go on being your - whole life? - Yes. 139 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,160 This is the famous Bonham Road where Terry lived. 140 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,320 Terry was synonymous with Dagenham. 141 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Very much one of Dagenham's favourite sons. 142 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,560 We bought Terry a bike for Christmas 143 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,600 and it was a lovely bike. 144 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,320 And he was standing in the passageway 145 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,400 down there, a very small passageway, 146 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,880 and Jimmy Thompson came along and he said, 147 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,920 "Whose bike is that out there?" 148 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,480 So, we said, "Terry's." He said, "It's no good", he said, 149 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,600 "Not for footballer's legs." He said, "It develops the wrong muscles", 150 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,800 and from that day on, Terry never rode that bike again. 151 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,040 It was put out in the shed and it was there for a few years 152 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,080 until we gave it away. 153 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,400 I think, if you're a very bright child 154 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,720 you're sort of hungry for everything. 155 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,760 You want to conquer the world. 156 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,960 You're brilliant at football, you can sing, 157 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,040 you're good looking. There's a sort of restless mind. 158 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,440 ♪ You're just too good to be true 159 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,520 ♪ Can't take my eyes off of you... 160 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:02,120 TERRY: The youth team I joined was obviously destined for big things. 161 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Every day I used to make that journey across the town 162 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,720 to Stamford Bridge. But it was a journey I would've made for nothing, 163 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,720 let alone the £6 a week we earned in those days. 164 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,080 I suppose you could say that my time at Chelsea 165 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,440 was the happiest I've ever had. 166 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Just looking around there now, it brings the memories flooding back. 167 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,520 The place, the game, and most of all, the people. 168 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:28,280 And, of course, it wasn't a bad team either. 169 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,040 We won the Youth Cup two years running, 170 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,440 and Chelsea gave me the chance to tour Europe for the first time. 171 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,480 The Chelsea team was full of youngsters 172 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,680 at 19, 20, and 21, 173 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,560 and I think that's one of the reasons why we all got on 174 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,600 very well together. 175 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,000 I knew right away that I would enjoy it there. 176 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,080 Terry was quite a character. A bouncy Londoner, 177 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,120 great sense of humour. 178 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,560 Terry was loved. You know, he was their, sort of, leader. 179 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,800 COMMENTATOR: And another goal! 180 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,640 The amount of talent there was amongst the youngsters at Chelsea 181 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:12,560 was unbelievable. And Terry was the brightest jewel of the lot. 182 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,640 He's your midfield general. 183 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:17,960 You know, he'll get hold of the ball and he'll get your attack organised 184 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,480 and get you functioning as a team. 185 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,280 And like that type of player, he would always want the ball. 186 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,320 (CHEERING) 187 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Playing for England at full level completed a unique set for me. 188 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,480 Caps at all levels and a record that can't be beaten. 189 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,920 COMMENTATOR: Inside left, Terry Venables to Hinton. 190 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,720 He's crossed, he's deflected by Verbiest. 191 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,360 Goal.(CHEERING) 192 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Terry had it all in his head. 193 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,960 The players knew that Terry eventually 194 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,600 would become a coach at some part of his career. 195 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,800 Are you expected to shout at the players on the field? 196 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Everybody expect to shout at each other. You know, it's not necessarily 197 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,440 just the captain. We can't have 11 captains on the field, I think. 198 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,600 East End and West End, two different worlds 199 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,120 under the same roof. The East that's shabby. 200 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,760 The West End, it's smart and fashionable. 201 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,760 He was always very dapper, Terry. 202 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,320 I picked up on it, and obviously, 203 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,040 then living in London, which was really fashionable at the time, 204 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,080 that helped me as well. 205 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,680 I got to know certain ways of wearing certain clothes. 206 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,720 It was exciting times. 207 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,120 We used to come up to London after training, 208 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,600 nearly every other day, so we thought, 209 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,400 "Instead of buying clothes, why don't we have our own little shop?" 210 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,800 That's how it started. 211 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Terry met somebody and said, "You know, do you fancy doing this 212 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,560 and doing that?" And he spoke to me and George 213 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,600 and we give it a try, like. 214 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,440 The problem we had was what we were gonna call the shop. 215 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,800 We came up with the idea, Greater Ron. 216 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,120 There was Ronnie Harris, there was Terry and myself, 217 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,040 so, really, everybody else thought, "Well, that's a good idea", 218 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,480 so, Greater Ron it was. 219 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,760 ♪ I told my friend that I was gone away... 220 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,920 He said to me, "Come up and have a suit." I went, "Terry, 221 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,200 I'm your poorest mate. How can I afford one of your suits?" 222 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,920 He said, "Yeah." All the boys from all the other clubs 223 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,080 they all had their suits made, didn't they, 224 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,520 and it was right in the West End, it was. 225 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,800 We made Norman Wisdom's suits. (LAUGHTER) 226 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,160 We never got the contract for the hat, 227 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,400 but we used to make his suits. They said, "Not them little funny ones." 228 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,840 I said, "No, it's ones that he normally wears." 229 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,200 It was just an outlet, 230 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,640 but Terry was like that, you see. His mind was going all the time. 231 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:58,240 Terry's a great one for trying new ventures. 232 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,280 He's got a very active mind. 233 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,160 Terry's one of these fellas that could talk all day, 234 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,880 had plenty of gift of the gab. If there were four of us 235 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,480 having an argument, he would always have to be the one 236 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,080 that won it. Simple as that. 237 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,080 In training, if we were working set plays 238 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,280 and free kicks, he'd say to Tom, 239 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,840 "Maybe we should try this, Tom, and do this." 240 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,880 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 241 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,440 You take it, yeah. Uh-huh, yeah. 242 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,320 I felt he just got a little too big for his boots. 243 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,640 I don't think it went down too well with Tom 244 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,920 because Terry never lasted too long after that. 245 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,520 If a club a being run the proper way, whether you're at the top, 246 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,960 at the bottom, you must have discipline. 247 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 And let's face it, if you give some players a yard they'll take a mile. 248 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,600 REPORTER: After more than two months of wrangling 249 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,800 the FA have finally got their man. But up to the last minute, 250 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,760 Terry Venables was trying to keep everyone guessing. 251 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,120 You look like a man who's got a new job, have you? 252 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,160 - No, no. - Please, Terry, look this way, please. 253 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,360 After months of speculation, the worst kept secret in football 254 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:15,480 has been revealed. Terry Venables is the new England football coach. 255 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,800 I remember I was cleaning the kitchen floor, 256 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,560 and he rang me and said, "I've got it." 257 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,000 But I think he was euphoric. 258 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,560 I think the happiest I've ever heard him, actually. 259 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,880 Today's announcement had been delayed 260 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,000 because of concerns about the business affairs 261 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,560 of the former Tottenham Hotspur manager. But according 262 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,400 to the Football Association, any lingering doubts 263 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,440 have now been dispelled. 264 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Terry Venables, England coach. 265 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,200 A job description that, according to the Football Association, 266 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,240 would've gone to whomever they'd appointed, 267 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,840 that, which, has a distance from the FA's administration 268 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,520 that the word "manager" most certainly does not have. 269 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,560 (REPORTERS CHATTING AND LAUGHING) 270 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,240 (CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING) 271 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 REPORTER: Terry. Thank you. 272 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,360 This one, please, this one. Terry, and again, this way. 273 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,560 - One step over, please. - REPORTER It was a day of getting to know you, 274 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,440 early ideas, plans, tactics for football and tomorrow's sports pages. 275 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,600 The business deals, the libels and any legal matters 276 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,640 could be cleared up later. 277 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,440 I've always took the stance that I'd done nothing wrong 278 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,800 and I was always very strong in that view. 279 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 And, in fact, I'm glad they took a long while. 280 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,600 That showed that they went through everything, 281 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,240 they asked as many people as they could, and I'm glad they come up 282 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,280 with the answer they did. 283 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,240 We have total confidence. 284 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,040 He comes to us, he tells us with clean hands, 285 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,840 his lawyer tells us he comes to us with clean hands. 286 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,240 And in his contract, of course, we have built in adequate safeguards. 287 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,200 Initially, when he got the contract, he was happy 288 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,720 to take the contract, and I think he sort of took it at face value. 289 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,400 But it obviously meant something, that there wasn't a World Cup 290 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,720 in that contract. So I think he was prepared to see how things developed 291 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,400 which you would do. I mean, who knows what's gonna happen 292 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,160 in that period of time. But he wasn't happy with it. 293 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,680 I was a bit apprehensive, cos I thought, 294 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,160 "Oh, God, what's it gonna bring, this job", 295 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,960 because you got so much stick. 296 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,800 If you did it wrong, the papers were on you all the time. 297 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,200 But I was happy for him. He had got the job he wanted, 298 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,880 so... And I knew he could do it. If anybody could do it, he could. 299 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,400 Terry, Terry, one last glance over here. 300 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,080 You know very well, over 20 years of coaching and managing 301 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:50,200 what style that I've used. 302 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,880 I'm certainly not intending to change that. 303 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,640 It will be try to play with as much invention and flair, 304 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,800 coupled with common sense, cos it's not just about playing football, 305 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,840 it's winning games. 306 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,240 I've worked with Terry since I was 21, so he knows what I'm capable 307 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,240 of doing. It's great playing for your country, 308 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,360 but I don't pick the team. All I'm here to do 309 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,120 is prove to Terry my fitness and prove him that I wanna play 310 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,040 for England again, full stop. I'm glad you realise that at last. 311 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,800 (CHUCKLES) You don't pick the team. (LAUGHS) 312 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,520 REPORTER: Terry! Terry! 313 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,760 The FA handled him really badly. 314 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,400 OK, they needed to work, maybe tone down some of the business elements 315 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,800 - to Venables. - But you couldn't, could you? 316 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,240 That was a thing. Because he's such a firing, sparking chap 317 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,120 who wants to do all things all the time. Just part of what he was. 318 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,200 It's why there was always that twinkle in his eye when you spoke 319 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,800 to him. Even when he was giving you a bollocking... 320 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,480 (LAUGHS) ..you sense that. But they wanted him 321 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,160 to wear an FA blazered straitjacket. 322 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,200 And that was not gonna work. 323 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,680 So we've got the European Championships in two years, right, 324 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,720 and England are gonna win it, yeah? Tell me they're gonna win it? 325 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,760 I'm very confident and I wouldn't have taken the job 326 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,880 if I didn't think there was a good possibility 327 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,680 of doing particularly well in the future, and turning it round. 328 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,720 The countries we're gonna play are good teams, 329 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,480 and I think it's stupid to actually think we're going to win it. 330 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,880 I think it's... It's not. You're gonna get hugely disappointed if you don't. 331 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,000 What we gotta say is we're confident, we're gonna be there, 332 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,680 we're gonna stick together, the country will be behind us 333 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,480 like they were in '66, and hopefully that's where it'll take us. 334 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,160 I wouldn't go any stronger than that. It'd be very silly to do that. 335 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,200 You can, I can't. 336 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:30,080 Let's get Terry sorted out first and then... 337 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:32,680 Actually, I wouldn't mind a shot of you looking at the list. 338 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,480 Right, standby. Nice and quiet. 339 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,560 The cup run of the mid '70s, when we took the third division side 340 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,960 to the semi-final, gave the club the appetite for success. 341 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,880 And when Malcolm Allison departed and I took over, 342 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,440 I was manager of a league club for the first time. 343 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,120 Terry's character changed from being a player 344 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,520 when he went into management. It was more deep thinking. 345 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,360 He thought about things, and he always had a picture of what he wanted. 346 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,320 It's a young side, how do you think they might - if they get 347 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:10,600 to the first division? Would they flourish there? 348 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,400 I think we'd do very well, but the main concern is 349 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,000 getting out this division first. There's no point in talking about 350 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,040 the first until we're out of the second. 351 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,080 - Do you know how to play this? - Yes. 352 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,600 I learnt, with Terry, that if you've got the ball, 353 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,000 then you're the boss, because it's impossible to play football 354 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,040 if you haven't got a ball. 355 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,680 And that's how simple he made the game for me, 356 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,520 and he said, "All I want you to be 357 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,320 is a thorn in the other team's side." 358 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,600 He never muddled my thinking. Anything that was complicated 359 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,120 when he spoke to the team, in general, 360 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,320 and anything to do with free kicks, throw ins, or tactical stuff, 361 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:05,680 he always moved me to one side and just threw me 362 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,960 a couple of footballs and said, "Go and have a few shots", 363 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,840 or, "Practise your crossing, or whatever. This basically 364 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,440 doesn't concern you. All I want you to do is show your talent when you play." 365 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,760 Mind management was a real strength of his, 366 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,360 and encouraging players. I'm sure it gave all of us a lot of confidence. 367 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,040 I'm Vince. Would you like to come and see the manager 368 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,480 to sign your contracts now. Come and - see Mr Venables. - Thanks. 369 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,880 Sit down. How are you? Good, sit down. 370 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,240 Because of Terry Venable's vision it was an easy transition 371 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,520 from being youth team players to first team players. 372 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,960 Has it been easy for you as a manager with youngsters? 373 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,680 (SCOFFS) It makes you feel young, I would think as well. 374 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,840 Yeah, well, I am young. (LAUGHS) 375 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 And that's one-nil. 376 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,560 We'd won the FA Youth Cup two seasons in a row, 377 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,720 we'd had a good season, the season after that 378 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,680 where we progressed up the league. 379 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,040 Well done, lads, well done. 380 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,520 And this is all before the majority of us had turned 20. 381 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,520 And it's Andy McCulloch putting Palace in front in the 15th minute. 382 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,240 You're telling me that the strain that one or two people 383 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,920 in the back room are seeing as you get nearer... 384 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,960 Story about a cup of coffee this - morning. - My secretary, 385 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,240 I said, "How are you feeling?" She said, "I'm fine. 386 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,600 I'm absolutely fine. Would you like a cup of coffee?" 387 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,840 I said, "Yes." She said, "What do you want, white or red?" (LAUGHTER) 388 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,200 Beautiful, Terry, thank you. Thank you. 389 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,560 The Burnley game was obviously, like, 390 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,240 a freakish night because we walked into the ground 391 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,840 and it was absolutely full to the rafters 392 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,720 and people hanging off of floodlights and that. 393 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,280 The crowning goal came from midfield break. 394 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,320 Burnley, they seem to fall apart, as Dave Swindlehurst, 395 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,600 the top scorer, added one more to his tally. 396 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,920 (CHEERING) 397 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,960 I just tried to hit it as hard as I could. 398 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,800 And I think it took a slight deflection and went in, 399 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,840 so I was gonna take that all day. 400 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,120 Palace were going up. They'd won promotion back to the first division 401 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,480 after an absence of six years. 402 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040 All 50,000 fans wanted to see their team, 403 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,880 and in particular, their manager, Terry Venables, 404 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,160 who's brought success to South London 405 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,680 out of a team that cost next to nothing. 406 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,600 You were gonna get swamped if you didn't get off the pitch 407 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,600 cos they all just piled on the pitch and it was a great sight, 408 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,640 it was a really, really great sight. 409 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,680 We'd built a tremendous team, like the Chelsea side of my youth days, 410 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,680 it was based on young players, and became dubbed 411 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600 "the team of the '80s", as we made our way up 412 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,640 to the first division. 413 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,280 Go on, let's do it again. 414 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,880 Terry Venables' belief is that successful leadership 415 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,400 can come only from personal stability. 416 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,320 He as never strayed far from his home community in East London, 417 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,560 and keeps his family sheltered in their home 418 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,400 on the edge of Epping Forest, away from the publicity 419 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,960 that seems to follow the football hero. 420 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Make it go, hit it hard. 421 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,880 In East London, he has a community of interests. 422 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,280 This little shop, for example, he bought for his wife's parents. 423 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,160 - How are you, OK?Fine, yeah. - Good. 424 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,200 You seem to be involved in the community 425 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,640 and your in-laws and your parents, they're all in business together. 426 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,640 What's gonna happen? Are you prepared to take on 427 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,440 the job of being a football manager of Scunthorpe or Newcastle 428 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,160 - or Manchester? - Yeah, that wouldn't bother me. 429 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,600 If you think about something enough, you've gotta be prepared 430 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,000 to go where the job calls. How long are you gonna stay at Crystal Palace? 431 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 How long will they be able to keep you at Crystal Palace? 432 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,080 I don't know, I don't know about that. I'm quite happy here. 433 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,640 I'm more than happy, and until anything else happens, 434 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,680 I'll be quite happy to stay here. 435 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,720 Come on! 436 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,440 Crystal Palace now are at the bottom of the first division, 437 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,520 however, the Palace manager, Terry Venables, 438 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,640 told me afterwards that this was the first time 439 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,920 that he felt that Palace had played badly this season. 440 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,200 I just felt as if the team 441 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,320 started off quite spritely, full of confidence 442 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,640 and played away, and then, when it didn't break for us, 443 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,560 I thought as the game went on they felt they weren't gonna do it, 444 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,240 and they just felt a bit down and thought, "It's not for us today", 445 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,720 and that's the last time I wanna see that, because you gotta fight 446 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,480 right the way through if we're gonna make it happen. 447 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,120 As soon as things started turning sour at Palace, 448 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,440 then Terry disappeared and we just lost direction. 449 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:27,080 We always thought his brain worked at, sort of, 200 miles an hour, 450 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,960 and he was doing, you know, all of these things, 451 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,920 he had all these issues - well, or side businesses. 452 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,960 He had pubs, didn't he, you know, 453 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,360 it's hard enough thinking about football all the time, 454 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,280 then to add all these other things going on in his head. 455 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,440 I think, probably, they were a bit confused 456 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,280 as to why, suddenly, you've gone really well 457 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,560 and then, within a year, it's gone out the window. 458 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,360 When I come out the board meeting I very seriously thought about, 459 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,160 "I didn't feel there was confidence." I'm always onto the players about 460 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,000 sticking together, and to be fair to them, they've been unbelievable, 461 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,400 right the way through it, even last week at Sunderland, 462 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,160 they were great. They've stuck together and I've just felt 463 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,640 people around the top of me hadn't stuck together. 464 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,160 If they'd took the leaf out of the book of the players 465 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,280 I think everything would be fine. 466 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,480 He called me aside and said, "What would you think if I left?" 467 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,840 And I said, "Well, I think we'd be devastated." 468 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,480 You know, he's got a good young side there, and possibly, 469 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,760 with the right additions, we could've gone on 470 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:30,600 and had a better run. But obviously, he had plans to go elsewhere. 471 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,560 After more than the usual flurry of rumour and counter rumour 472 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,880 earlier this week, Venables finally agreed on Tuesday evening 473 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,040 to become the new manager of Queens Park Rangers. 474 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,360 (READS) "Once upon a time there was a boy named Jack, 475 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,480 who decided to go out into the world and make a name for himself. 476 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,320 Now, Jack didn't have much money." (LAUGHING) 477 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:55,000 Listen, listen. "Jack didn't have much money, 478 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,320 but he was ambitious. So, one day, he set out 479 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:00,920 and went looking for a giant to kill." 480 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680 The idea of going to China to prepare for a tournament 481 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,240 in your backyard was agreed to by Terry 482 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,960 because he thought that the pressure 483 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800 on the players, if we sat at home, 484 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,840 would be all the greater. 485 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,960 Chairman Mao once said, "Until you've climbed the Great Wall, 486 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 you're not a man." Today, England's footballers 487 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,040 did their best to meet the challenge, 488 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,200 an experience that took their breath away. 489 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,760 (EXHALES) 490 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,200 The idea was to go up by cable car. It was a game plan that went wrong. 491 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,480 How's that jetlag, lads? 492 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,720 I think we took a wrong turn and finished up walking all the way, 493 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,120 - but there you go. - So, having flown halfway across the world 494 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,560 and walked halfway across the Great Wall, 495 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,560 tomorrow, the England team will be asked to play football. 496 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,040 A very select number of reporters fly out 497 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,160 for what turns into, arguably the most memorable 498 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,800 week of English football off the field 499 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840 there's been in a very long time. 500 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720 I could see the logic of them going over there, 501 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,600 cos Terry Venables wanted to take the players away, 502 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,400 have a bonding trip, and the bonding was not simply on the pitch 503 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,440 but was off the pitch. 504 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,720 This was part of the Venables ethos. 505 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,160 This is about building a team spirit before the tournament. 506 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,920 We played a couple of games over there. We played a select 11 507 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,080 in an absolute awful game, 508 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,720 when you consider, within less than two weeks, 509 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000 we were going into a major finals, 510 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,280 with the expectation we might win it, 511 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,480 which we were so far away from that it was scary. 512 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,200 It started to go wrong when we went to Hong Kong. 513 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,560 Terry was quite calm about it. He said, "Lads, you can go out." 514 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,680 He gave us the green light to do that. 515 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,720 I remember sitting with Gareth Southgate 516 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,880 and saying, "Gareth, have a night in tonight. I can see all the warning signs." 517 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,840 And he just said, "Look, when I've been away with England in the past, 518 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,760 when there's been a night out, you'd have thought the lads 519 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,800 had never been for a drink before in their lives." 520 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240 I kinda think, when you go to a nightclub, as long as you don't 521 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840 get into any punch-ups or it's kicking off, 522 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,560 then everything's OK. 523 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,520 A bit of relacing, a bit of bonding, 524 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,400 a bit of team spirit. It didn't go quite according to plan. 525 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,120 But sometimes you gotta let off steam as young men 526 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,440 and probably, the steam went a little bit too far. 527 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080 Can laugh about it now but we weren't laughing about it then. 528 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,640 It wasn't just events out there. 529 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,360 They even got into trouble - at 30,000 feet. - Cathay Pacific. 530 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040 What went on CX-whatever it was! 531 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,680 I'm not sure whether there was one player actually in the overhead locker 532 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,360 at one stage. I think a screen got broken somewhere along the lines. 533 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,720 I was asleep. Fast asleep. 534 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680 REPORTER: Reports suggest that Paul Gascoigne's 29th birthday 535 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,800 celebrations were at the centre of the trouble. 536 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,920 You could smell the bloodlust. 537 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,720 You could just tell this wasn't gonna go well. 538 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,640 For the FA with Euro '96 getting ever closer, 539 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,680 the bad publicity is embarrassing. 540 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,360 They're all good players, and I'm very pleased with all of them. 541 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,400 And it's not a nice one, but there you go. 542 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,680 They know and been first class. 543 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,360 The general consensus is that the England squad 544 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,800 should've behaved better while representing their country abroad. 545 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,320 Terry Venables did something very clever. First of all, 546 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,920 they cooked up this collective responsibility defence, 547 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,600 which was one deflection, "We're all in this together, 548 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,040 we're not gonna name names. Nobody's gonna be individually punished for this." 549 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,120 Today, the England squad has accepted 550 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,800 collective responsibility for what happened. 551 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,080 Then his second trick was to say, 552 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,040 "It's OK for you lot, you know, you're setting in your press box. 553 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,440 You don't have to go out there representing your country." 554 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,080 And he turned it right round. 555 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,040 I've not had one problem in two and a half years from these boys. 556 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,680 And I think that the treatment they've had 557 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 is disgraceful. End of story. 558 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Now let's get on with the show. 559 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,080 Are you accepting that damage was caused? 560 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,960 I'm not accepting anything. If you've got any proof... Have you? 561 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,640 Photographs? Photographs? 562 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,880 Oh, you take their word but you don't take ours, 563 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960 - is that what it is? - I'm just asking for your opinion. 564 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,240 Well, I'll give it. OK, that's fine. Any football questions? 565 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,560 When you look at, you're the England manager 566 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,320 going into a major tournament, your team have been out, 567 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,200 that have got in tabloids, they've broken aeroplanes, 568 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,960 your team have been bloody dog awful, 569 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,080 the pressure that he was under, you know, he handled it 570 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,480 as if it was water off a duck's back and not a problem. 571 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,320 You know, that's great management 572 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,840 of everybody around him. How he handled the FA as well. 573 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,800 REPORTER: This is the time we've all been waiting for. 574 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,680 At last we shall get boots on ball in earnest, 575 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,440 and Euro '96 will be underway. 576 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,520 There's obviously huge hope and anticipation, 577 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,240 ahead of any tournament. There's more expectation 578 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,160 because you're the home team. Ours was the first game of the tournament 579 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440 so there's all the hullabaloo around that. 580 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,960 We knew this is a team that we're expected to beat, 581 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920 but actually, a good team with some very good players. 582 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,720 It's building up for this. This is the real thing, 583 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080 this is what we've been preparing for. 584 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,120 We just hope that we're gonna be successful, 585 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,160 and we're ready to start. 586 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,240 I was under huge pressure. I hadn't scored for England, 587 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,320 so it was hard enough going out to play my tournament anyway, 588 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200 let alone having not scored for two years, 589 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240 but Terry just made me feel at ease, he made me feel 590 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280 very, very confident. 591 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,760 He had the belief to come to me before we went across 592 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,800 to the Far East prior to Euro '96, 593 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,360 and he said to me, "Whatever happens, you will be 594 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880 my number one centre forward for that first game." 595 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,560 And I just stood back and thought, "Wow." 596 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,280 For this man, for this manager to have that amount of belief 597 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,080 and faith in me, when I hadn't scored, 598 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,760 I had to repay him. I couldn't let him down. 599 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,520 That's going. 600 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680 It wasn't a great performance from us. 601 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,400 It was a bit of a flat game. 602 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,360 Find Shearer, finds it. 603 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560 And it was just when I got into the position, 604 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,960 it was basically, "I'm not passing this, 605 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,040 this is head down, hit as hard as you can, 606 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,080 make sure you hit the target." 607 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,040 It comes through now. And it's goal for Alan Shearer. 608 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,080 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 609 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,560 When that ball went in, 610 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,760 it was just, that's it, 611 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,880 the weight and the pressure and everything else 612 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,040 was off of my shoulders, and every forward will tell you, 613 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000 when you've been on a barren run, 614 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,440 that one-to-one comes along, then you're pretty confident 615 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,480 the next one will come along. 616 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,000 England really back on their heels at the moment. 617 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,840 They claim a penalty. It's given. 618 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,880 A penalty for Switzerland, 619 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,000 conceded by Stuart Pearce. 620 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,800 This is a major problem now for England. 621 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Turkyilmaz has made it 1-1. 622 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,200 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 623 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,680 Well, let's hear from the England coach, Terry Venables. 624 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:47,280 He's down there with Gary Newbon. Terry, it was a very harsh 625 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,160 penalty decision Pearce doesn't even seem to know it'll hit him. 626 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480 I didn't think it was a penalty. In saying that, 627 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,800 we haven't played well second half, we're dead on our feet, 628 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,840 and both teams looked very tired at second half, 629 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,040 and it just looked like it was gonna fizzle out to hopefully a 1-nil. 630 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,080 But it's a disappointment. It's not the result we were looking for. 631 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,320 The expressions on the England faces say it all. 632 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,400 It's dejection once again at the end of the first game 633 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,280 of a major tournament. 634 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,720 Terry was totally against having a big reaction in the dressing rooms 635 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,000 straight after the game, and a lot calmer 636 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,640 around the defeats, the things that went wrong 637 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,680 than maybe I was used to. We were trying to work things through 638 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,960 and find solutions to things, rather than be punished 639 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000 for making a mistake. 640 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,560 For Gordon Williams, long-time journalist 641 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,440 and author of a string of novels including the hugely-successful 642 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,400 Straw Dogs, the agonising search for a plot line 643 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,120 is only too familiar. But for Terry Venables, 644 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,920 a professional footballer since his school days, and now, 645 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,120 one of the most highly paid managers in the game, 646 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,040 the connection with creative writing is not so obvious. 647 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,240 This guy, he must be quite something, mustn't he. 648 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520 I mean, you know, not only top footballer, 649 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,400 FA Cup winner's medal, but he writes books. 650 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,160 You know, awe, respect, admiration. 651 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,520 Football's a hard graft, but I think the hard graft 652 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,960 of writing a book, that is tremendously difficult. 653 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,960 Come on! 654 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,440 He's somebody whose education ended 655 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,600 very abruptly at 15, really. 656 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,160 And which left him 657 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,840 with a lot of talents which are undeveloped, 658 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,120 all because he was so great at football. 659 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,200 And I think that's where his longing to write came from. 660 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:42,320 No-one actually believe, when we wrote the novel, 661 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,520 that I had anything to do with the writing of it. 662 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,720 And they still don't. When I get linked with Hazell 663 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,760 people just say, "Did you actually...? 664 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,440 Did you actually have anything to do with it?" They don't like to say, 665 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,760 "You know, a sweaty, moronic footballer, what can he do?" 666 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,000 You know, any managers would normally say to players, 667 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,800 "Focus on your football, forget everything else, 668 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,720 get married really young, avoid all distractions." 669 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,080 I think there was a feeling 670 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,720 that people within football 671 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,760 should stay within football. 672 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360 He can't be... I don't think he can be too wealthy, 673 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040 cos I think he's gonna be the sort of guy that's... 674 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,160 that's not gonna work. 675 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,360 I do wonder whether if there hadn't been 676 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,680 that sort of, "Ooh, it's just a gimmick", reception, 677 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,720 whether Terry would actually have, sort of, 678 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,520 bothered to write any more. 679 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,960 I do wonder whether he was galvanised, 680 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,560 so determined to prove that he could actually do this. 681 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,440 You know, he'd conquered the world in football, 682 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160 so now he wanted to conquer the world of literature. 683 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,960 Good evening. Mr Clifford Avery? 684 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680 - Yeah? - My name's James Hazell. 685 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:11,080 My name is James Hazell. 686 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,040 My name's James Hazell. 687 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,080 My name is James Hazell. (LAUGHS) 688 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,720 What I loved about Hazell was the tone of voice. 689 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,240 I mean, sort of streetwise, cheerful, 690 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,440 knowing your way around, thinking yourself as good as the next man. 691 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,960 I put a lot of that down to Terry Venables. 692 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,840 I admired Gordon Williams, but the sense of London in Hazell, 693 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080 the sense that skill would get you a long way, 694 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,880 and you needn't really be put down by anybody, came from Terry. 695 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,160 He's been through a lot of things and he's in the stage 696 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,720 where he's lost a lot of the things that were important to him. 697 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,640 And he don't really care too much. He's a little bit cynical, 698 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000 but he's funny. I think you'd like his company. 699 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,280 They say cockneys don't travel well. 700 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,840 Why should we, when we're there. 701 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,880 Yes, I know, darling. 702 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,400 Positively sick-making. 703 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,160 (READS) "A couple of hours later, I was going into the lift 704 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960 in the big new office block in High Holborn. 705 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,040 The fine old legal firm of Venables, Venables, Williams and Gregory 706 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,120 Solicitors occupied the whole of the sixth floor." 707 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,040 Peel him off a pony, would you, - love. - A what? 708 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,200 - £25, love. - James. 709 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,560 (READS) "Gordon smiled patronisingly. It was a little joke 710 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,960 between us. Mainly on his side. 711 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,560 The difference in our backgrounds. 712 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,120 Gordon had been to Eton and one of those Oxford colleges 713 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,360 which they pronounced the opposite way from the spelling 714 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,480 just to keep us slobs guessing." 715 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,040 He always looks, perhaps, a little bit out of every sort of company, 716 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,880 and I think he's just above one set and just below one set. 717 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,280 He's trying to find himself, I think. 718 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,520 With educated people he comes on more cockney 719 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,520 and with cockney he becomes slightly more precise. 720 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,200 - Would that be correct? - That's right, - yeah. - Bit like yourself. 721 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,240 (CHUCKLES) That's right. 722 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,920 I will think that football is a full-time occupation 723 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560 without writing books, and I think that he must have a hell of a lot 724 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,160 of energy to expend if he can go home at night 725 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,520 and he can do things like this. 726 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,360 He's also got other activities, 727 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400 I believe, in a business sense, 728 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,440 so perhaps he's got a little bit more than me, 729 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,400 cos when I get home all I want to do is collapse. 730 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,120 Do you think he has any weaknesses at all? 731 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,880 He's paranoic, in the sense that 732 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,920 he always suspected me of... 733 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,560 ..trying to be the number one in this partnership, 734 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,680 the writing partnership. I think he is a manager, he has to be in control. 735 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,720 So it was a bit of a rough ride for me at times. 736 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,640 There are people who seem to be multi-talented. 737 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,680 They got so many things that 738 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,960 they could probably have succeeded in 739 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,840 if they hadn't decided, "This is gonna be my main focus in life." 740 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,160 And I would put Terry very much in that category. 741 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,960 He wasn't totally a person 742 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520 who was football and nothing but. 743 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,800 He had a lot of other strings to his bow. 744 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,840 (APPLAUSE) 745 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,240 So, now it's time for Mister Terry Venables to sing. 746 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,080 The song is called What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For? 747 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,120 Terry Venables.(APPLAUSE) 748 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,240 ♪ What do you wanna make those eyes at me for? 749 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,720 ♪ If they don't mean what they say... 750 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,160 You also invented, didn't you, in the early '60s, 751 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,800 a thing called a Thingamewig. 752 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,560 In those days, on the Saturday, the ladies would go shopping 753 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,800 cos they'd all get ready to go out in the evenings on the town, 754 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,480 so rather than have the clips in and that, 755 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560 they used to have this sort of puffy hat with a peak. 756 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,560 It was quite a nice corduroy or something like that, 757 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,040 and then velcro-ed inside was the hair hanging down, you see. 758 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,360 What, a hat with a wig in it? (LAUGHTER) 759 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,920 ♪ You're fooling around with me now... 760 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,960 This is just for you, Terry, OK? 761 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,960 ♪ Oh, that's all right 762 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,040 ♪ I'll get you a lonesome night... 763 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,760 As if that's not enough, this is my latest pet project. 764 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,200 A board game. 765 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,080 Right, here we go. 766 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,120 OK. 767 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,160 (READS) "Football is a game, but it's also a business 768 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,480 and a big one at that." 769 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,320 The fact that the winner is the player with the most money at the end, 770 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,000 it's an interesting concept. 771 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:45,120 ♪ If they don't mean what they say ♪ 772 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,120 (APPLAUSE) 773 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,680 When I think about Euro '96 I always think about that game, 774 00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:09,600 cos it meant so much to everybody. 775 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,040 Not just football people but general people, 776 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,480 the people going to work on a Monday morning. 777 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,840 You know, it changed our perspective 778 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,880 at the way they looked at life. 779 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,560 The pressure was building massively for the Scotland game, 780 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,480 because we'd only got a point, and now we know that 781 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,360 if we don't get anything from the Scotland game 782 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,400 we could be in trouble. 783 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,880 It was a game we had to win. As much as it was exciting, 784 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,960 it was also a bit nervy, 785 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,280 cos we knew if we lost that game 786 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,960 then we'd be going back to Hong Kong and what happened on the plane 787 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,800 and they'll be blaming El Tel and all this, 788 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,680 blaming all the players, and the nation would hate us. 789 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,080 When we actually arrived at the stadium and the atmosphere 790 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,520 was just phenomenal. I've never known anything like it, ever. 791 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,720 England always win games, normally, right back to '50s, at Wembley. 792 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,040 And the thing that I always wanted to do 793 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,880 was to do it my way, 794 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,920 and do it with style. 795 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,680 (WHISTLE BLOWS) Away we go. 796 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,960 Headlines going to war. 797 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000 It's not that by any means but it is a very important 798 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,720 game of football for both these nations. 799 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,080 We weren't great the first half. We made a change, 800 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,000 I think he took Pearce off, if I remember rightly, 801 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,800 and brought Jamie on. He wanted to get the ball into Jamie, 802 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,720 it was a great pass, get the ball out wide, 803 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,840 hit balls in the box, put pressure on the Scottish team. 804 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,320 Credit to Jamie, he played extremely well, 805 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,560 and he was a big influence in the second half of the game, 806 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,800 I've gotta say, and it was a master stroke. 807 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,080 We went to a fall at the back and we thrived from it. 808 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,080 Terry had seen that we needed an extra body in midfield, 809 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,120 and did it work. 810 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,520 Finds Neville with it. Here's the cross coming in. 811 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,080 And England scores through Shearer. 812 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,280 We needed a little bit of luck. We got the goal, I got the header 813 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,960 from an unbelievable cross from Gary Neville, 814 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000 and then the game changed. 815 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,480 They got a penalty. 816 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,600 And it was a very good save from David Seaman. 817 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,120 Terry changed the formation just to let Gazza 818 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,840 have a little bit more freedom, get him a little bit further forward. 819 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,880 My word, it paid off. 820 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,640 And Gazza with a ball was genius, and Terry knew that. 821 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,600 And Terry's experience in working with him beforehand, 822 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,440 he needed all of that to get the best out of Gazza. 823 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,000 As a player you get a front-row seat to watch 824 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,800 the best players that I've ever been involved in, 825 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920 and I think the best player to wear an England shirt 826 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,960 since maybe Bobby Charlton, 827 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000 illuminate a tournament. 828 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,240 It was just a sensational piece of skill. 829 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,280 (CHEERING)2-nil. 830 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,600 Would you believe it. 831 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,600 From one end of the field to the other. 832 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,640 The crowd are in raptures. 833 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,960 That changed the fortunes of the English national team 834 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,880 in that tournament. That was it, bang. 835 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:38,040 After that game, the press kinda eased off, 836 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,400 you know, the fans got right behind us. 837 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,640 And there was a different type of feeling 838 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,680 around the country. 839 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,840 I thought it was very emotional, and all the years I've been coming here, 840 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,680 I'd never heard such a sound and volume 841 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,720 that I heard today. 842 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,000 I mean, the crowd lifted us even more. 843 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,040 (CHEERING) 844 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,920 We're delighted to welcome Terry Venables. 845 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,960 (APPLAUSE) 846 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,480 I always thought, when I retire, if I do something less than work, 847 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,040 I'll host a chat show or something. Yeah.(LAUGHTER) 848 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:37,800 (APPLAUSE) Would anything lure you away from Queens Park Rangers? 849 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,240 Erm... I'm very happy 850 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,280 at QP... (STAMMERING) 851 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,920 (LAUGHTER) I'm very happy at Queens Park Rangers. 852 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,200 I've been there three years, it's been three great years, 853 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,800 and I'm not looking, really, to go beyond that. 854 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,080 The success of QPR, coupled with the fact that I was managing director, 855 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,680 meant that I was a hair's breadth 856 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:03,160 away from my ambition to both own and manage a football club. 857 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,520 And then, I got the call from Spain. 858 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,320 We have a meeting with Alex Ferguson, 859 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,680 with Bobby Robson, 860 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,320 and with Terry Venables. 861 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,200 Those three that we meet, 862 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,560 we went for breakfast, 863 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,720 went for lunch and went for dinner. 864 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,840 When we had the meeting with Terry 865 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,360 we were thinking that Terry will be the perfect coach 866 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,720 that we need at the time in Barcelona. 867 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,680 I've always accepted challenges 868 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:49,240 and I've made no exception this time. 869 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,880 I've accepted a big one, and I intend to do well in this job. 870 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,320 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 871 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,040 The guy said to me, "Well, you'll only have one year. 872 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,880 If you want more than one year, it's not possible." 873 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,880 I said, "Well, I want two years. Otherwise it's not possible." 874 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,480 There's no point in me making this type of break 875 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,240 and not getting the time I should have to make the job work. 876 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,280 He said, 877 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,480 "We'd like to think of you to think of Barcelona as your chica." 878 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,400 Which means your girlfriend... 879 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,000 "We'd like to think... Do you love your chica?" 880 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,120 So, I said, "Yes, very much." 881 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,480 I said, "Very much... Does the chica love me?" 882 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,160 He said, "Oh, yes, very much!" 883 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,840 "Well, why do you want to get rid of me in a year?!" 884 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,600 Everybody keeps talking about Maradona. 885 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,960 There are other players in Barcelona, 886 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,080 very good players. 887 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,520 What will you do? 888 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,640 Well, I am gonna make sure that the system of play will be my system of play 889 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,920 and it will be with the players of Barcelona Football Club, 890 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,360 nothing to do with Maradona. 891 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,200 Several players in my mind, 892 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:20,800 and I will decide over the next week or two which one will replace him. 893 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,840 Maradona went, 894 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,280 and there was a position to be filled, 895 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,960 and I think I know more about Archibald than I know about anybody else. 896 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160 I just think that it's common sense. 897 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,280 This way, I'm very confident of what Archibald is capable of doing. 898 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,600 Think there was about 60,000 fans for the presentation. 899 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,240 Well, the word that Terry said was a speech in Catalan, 900 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,520 which was unbelievable. 901 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,120 (CHEERING) 902 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,400 When Terry came here, 903 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,440 they said this Englishman they found on the beach... 904 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,480 But obviously, 905 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,040 the players read the newspapers and they don't know who he is really either. 906 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,400 They're experienced pros, 907 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,600 they're not really looking at Terry Venables, whoever he might be, 908 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,440 coming from a little club in England. 909 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,640 They're not convinced. 910 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,840 They're quite tough, 911 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,840 and they put you to the test all the time, 912 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,280 which is not a bad thing. 913 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,040 I mean, it's all obviously very important here, 914 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,240 because the amount of competitions in the newspapers... 915 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,240 Training ground from day one was about defence, 916 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,520 and if I tell you that he convinced a really experienced back four 917 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,520 on how to play his system within ten days, two weeks... 918 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,960 That's an amazing thing to do. 919 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,880 It was a Clasico. 920 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,320 It was the first game of the season. 921 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,680 Players thinking, 922 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:11,680 "Oh, my God, we're away to Real Madrid!" 923 00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:14,440 But Terry flipped it on its head in one day. 924 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,440 He said to everybody in the dressing room, 925 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,040 "Listen, this is an amazing way to start the season. 926 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,400 We go and beat Madrid, then we're off to a flyer." 927 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960 When we got back to the hotel, we was having a dinner 928 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,240 and one or two people said, 929 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,920 "You won't appreciate what's going on in Barcelona." 930 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,600 And it wasn't till the next day they told me that they gather in a place called the Ramblas, 931 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,280 and there's virtually 10,000 people there to celebrate together, 932 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,280 and the hooting of the horns and the dancing and... 933 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,880 And you know, that would normally happen on a cup final, 934 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,800 but this is the first game of the season, 935 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,240 but it's Madrid, so it's understandable! 936 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,680 (SPEAKING IN SPANISH) 937 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,720 (APPLAUSE) Good luck... 938 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,400 ♪ I've got you under my skin 939 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,000 After that, they loved him out there. 940 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,600 He couldn't really do no wrong. 941 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,600 And then he won the league, so he was like a god out there! 942 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,800 ♪ So deep in my heart 943 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,560 ♪ You're really a part of me... 944 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,320 To win the league is very important, 945 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,520 but to win the league after ten years... 946 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,040 It's a little more important! 947 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,680 The trouble with winning is that people expect MORE of the winning. 948 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,280 And then more still... 949 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,680 In football, if you win, you are god. 950 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,440 If you lose, you are... I don't know, el diablo! 951 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,120 He was definitely ahead of the game. 952 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,720 Hundred percent ahead of the game, 953 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,000 um, because if you're not, you can't come here and do what he did. 954 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:11,920 ♪ And I've got you under my skin... ♪ 955 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,680 It was an amazing achievement, 956 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,280 and I don't think he's been given enough credit for it. 957 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,160 (CATALAN RADIO REPORT) 958 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,080 This is Radio Catalunya Sport. 959 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,200 With the new season only a few weeks away, 960 00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:48,480 Barcelona's manager Terry Venables has signed two of his British compatriots, 961 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,760 England's 25-year-old World Cup hero Gary Lineker 962 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,680 and Welsh international Mark Hughes. 963 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,000 There's no doubt in my mind, 964 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,200 I brought here two outstanding players. 965 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,400 But you can't expect to come to this level and tell a fairy tale. 966 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,760 Hopefully we'll be able to tell a fairy tale at the end, 967 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,800 or we might not, 968 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,920 but at least we've had the chance, all of us, 969 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,600 to pit our wits against the situation and talent. 970 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,640 In my case, wits. In their case, talent. 971 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,840 (LAUGHING) 972 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,080 Terry won the league comfortably in his first season. 973 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,040 He came in and played a different kind of football 974 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,880 that they hadn't seen there before. 975 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,920 They loved him. 976 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,880 And then he went all the way to the final of the European Cup. 977 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,440 It was gonna be the first win in Barcelona's history. 978 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,200 And then it was the most dismal penalty shoot-out... 979 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,840 Barcelona missed every single penalty. 980 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,960 (DISTANT CONVERSATION IN SPANISH) 981 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,240 Come on, for God's sake... 982 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,600 Terry, it's a hell of a way to lose. 983 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,280 I suppose asking your feelings is asking an obvious question, really. 984 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,800 You must be very disappointed. 985 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:06,840 Very disappointed, 986 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,840 we felt we had done enough to win the game. 987 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,960 So, you now have to stay for two more years! 988 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,320 You've got to win the championship and try again! 989 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,680 Oh, dear... Let's just get over tonight first. 990 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,120 What are you gonna do? 991 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,720 I'm gonna have a large drink, if I can get near a bar. 992 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,280 I'll let you go. 993 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,640 Thanks very much, mate. Thanks for putting a smile on. Well, I tried... 994 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,400 Catalunya was in mourning. 995 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,680 They couldn't believe it. 996 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,600 The road twists and turns when you come to a place like this. 997 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,120 You can actually win 20 on the trot, 998 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,720 lose two...it's a crisis. 999 00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:47,960 The most important thing is to get your own head right, 1000 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,400 and all the other stuff around you is superficial. 1001 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,120 Terry's a great coach. 1002 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,520 He was the most innovative and thoughtful coach that I ever played for. 1003 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,040 If you close 'em hard there, 1004 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,880 and as he turns around to knock back, 1005 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,480 Gary's got the angle now to cut that off, 1006 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,600 and they like to show that they can play in tight situations. 1007 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,120 They won't just welt it out of the ground and say... 1008 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,240 You know, that's like they've lost a mark, 1009 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,080 so now they're playing around, want to fanny a little bit, 1010 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,360 you know, in the corners, 1011 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,360 and that's our chance of gettin' them. 1012 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,800 He understood me, he understood how I liked to work. 1013 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,160 He understood that I like to think about my game a lot, 1014 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,000 so we talked about my game a lot. 1015 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,600 And he would always push me in training... 1016 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,640 (WHISTLING) Gary! 1017 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,400 You shouldn't be offside there! Look right along the line! 1018 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,920 I think Terry revolutionised football. 1019 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,360 People talk about, you know, 1020 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,560 the high press in particular as a new thing... 1021 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,600 You know, Klopp's done it and the Germans do it... 1022 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,720 Terry, he was doing this 30 years ago! 1023 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,920 And it was exactly that... 1024 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,440 (FRANTIC SPANISH COMMENTARY) 1025 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,040 Gol, gol, gol, gol, gol, gol, gol! 1026 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,880 Lineker, Lineker, Lineker, Lineker, Lineker! 1027 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,560 Terry was constantly trying to think of something new, 1028 00:57:58,600 --> 00:57:59,760 something innovative, 1029 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,040 something that might break the mould, 1030 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,560 that might make a difference. 1031 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,560 We used to meet up with him for lunch and stuff, 1032 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,560 and Manolo's restaurants, 1033 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,160 his big friend, 1034 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,080 and they were always talking business. 1035 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,520 Most of their conversations were about business, 1036 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,880 restaurants, property... 1037 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,880 I don't think it affects your coaching in any way shape or form, 1038 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,480 but it obviously affected him further down the line, 1039 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,840 in terms of where it kind of went wrong. 1040 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,200 I think, to be perfectly honest, 1041 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,120 losing the European Cup final against Steaua Bucharest 1042 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,800 was kind of it for him... 1043 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,240 I think it was hard to come back from that. 1044 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,360 For Barcelona, it's not good enough, second. 1045 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,120 And we were second in the league. 1046 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,400 And I think after that, his days were numbered. 1047 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,760 It doesn't take much at Barcelona for them to get unhappy. 1048 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,000 And when you go out on the pitch, you have to entertain them. 1049 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,720 If they're not happy, they'll wave the white hankies. 1050 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,920 Los panuelos blancos... 1051 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,440 And when they... (LAUGHS) 1052 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,720 When they're waving them at you, that's a bad sign! 1053 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,520 I think maybe he peaked too soon, I don't know! 1054 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,200 It was three years we were there, 1055 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,560 so I think that was quite a long time for Barcelona. 1056 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,680 And we were ready to come home, anyway. 1057 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,240 Terry and Dutch football...yeah. 1058 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,440 Without a doubt, the Spanish and Dutch, 1059 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,440 I think he had a good feeling about how they played the game, 1060 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,200 how he wanted us to play the game. 1061 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,200 I actually normally looked a lot at Holland anyway. 1062 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,320 I knew all about them, 1063 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,160 and I wanted to see what they're like. 1064 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:02,640 A lot of the continent, 1065 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,240 especially Holland and Germany, 1066 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,520 they seem to have a great know-how with the ball 1067 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,360 and we feel that perhaps we've been left behind a little bit. 1068 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,400 So, what they were doing now a lot, players having a ball each. 1069 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,240 Really just getting to know the ball, getting the feel of it. 1070 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,680 These are the type of exercises we're doing now. 1071 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,520 Holland were, in footballing terms... 1072 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,640 I mean, they were a giant and had some INCREDIBLE players. 1073 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,080 So, he was determined to have his tactics right, 1074 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,360 to have his team ready and prepared. 1075 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,800 Terry would watch the Dutch 1076 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,840 and say the way Bergkamp dropped off into areas, 1077 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,680 let people run beyond him... 1078 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,880 It wasn't just a 4-4-2 formation. 1079 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,840 You have to move players, you have to ask them questions. 1080 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,760 No one thought we could outplay the Dutch. 1081 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,360 No one. 1082 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,360 You know, when we all go back to the hotels, 1083 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,200 sitting round the table, have dinner, 1084 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,960 and you start thinking, "Right... Got the Dutch comin' up. 1085 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,880 Wow... That's tough. 1086 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,400 How are we gonna play? 1087 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,160 What's the gaffer gonna do? 1088 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,440 How's he gonna set us up?" 1089 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,480 So, we're thinking, 1090 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,920 "Well, gonna be ten men behind the ball 1091 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,600 then we'll try and nick it and try and break and..." 1092 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,800 You know, completely the opposite. 1093 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,400 Completely the opposite... 1094 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,160 ♪ It's comin' home, it's comin'... 1095 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,760 ♪ Football's comin' home ♪ 1096 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,360 Tonight, the Wembley crowd and the whole nation are behind the England team, 1097 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,640 with just a single point needed for a place in the quarter-finals. 1098 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,560 Even now, people still talk about how special that game was. 1099 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,160 I mean, that was probably the best atmosphere 1100 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,600 I experienced as an England player. 1101 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,520 That night was UNBELIEVABLE. 1102 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,360 I mean, the England flags were flying, 1103 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,400 everyone was singing, everyone was happy. 1104 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,080 It was just an unbelievable night. 1105 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,480 I remember Terry saying to me before we went out, 1106 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,520 "Listen, Paul, 1107 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,640 make sure you don't let Gazza keep going on forward all the time. 1108 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,920 He's gotta pick his runs. 1109 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,360 But sometimes, you know, I want you to go. 1110 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,200 Because they expect you to sit there, 1111 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,800 so they're not gonna pick you up." 1112 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:02,840 And Ince... 1113 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,080 ..who finds Sheringham... 1114 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,200 Sheringham then releases McManaman! 1115 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,040 So, I just picked it up, played it once, it went out to Macca. 1116 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,240 And as I went into the edge of the 18-yard box, 1117 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,680 I can see him comin' and I just did a little twist... 1118 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,200 Ince has gone down! A penalty! 1119 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,400 A penalty for England! 1120 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,000 And England have a great opportunity! 1121 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,960 Also, I got kicked in the balls at the same time, 1122 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,960 which wasn't nice, but it didn't matter. 1123 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,240 It was the perfect start. 1124 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,600 Shearer now...it's 1-0 England! 1125 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,760 After that, you could just see us walking seven foot tall. 1126 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,400 The perfect penalty! 1127 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,000 Three games, three goals, Alan Shearer! 1128 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,120 1-0 England! 1129 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,440 Alan Shearer was the best striker in England at the time, 1130 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,560 without a doubt. 1131 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,600 But I'm a number ten, I'm a striker, 1132 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,200 I need to score goals as well. 1133 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,960 Sheringham! 1134 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,160 It's 2-0! 1135 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,400 What a super header! 1136 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,240 I get asked about it so often, 1137 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,360 you know, it must have been your best moment. 1138 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,400 How can it not be? 1139 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,160 Playing for England at Wembley against the Dutch, 1140 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,760 destroying 'em at their own game, 1141 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,760 playing the way we did in a major competition... 1142 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,440 It was just the perfect scenario to put on a performance like we did. 1143 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,320 What a night this is proving to be at the moment. 1144 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,840 There's a lot of emphasis placed on teams that press now. 1145 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,040 You talk about Liverpool, how they have done it, 1146 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,080 talk about Man City when they lose the ball, 1147 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,120 or Barcelona... 1148 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,040 But we did that in '96 with Terry. 1149 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,560 Terry was ahead of everyone. 1150 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,360 Now Gascoigne... 1151 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,960 Maybe he'll leave his imprint on this game tonight... 1152 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,880 That third goal was just picture-perfect for us. 1153 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,560 Gazza slipped the ball to me, 1154 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,760 and as it rolled to me, 1155 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:53,880 I thought to myself, 1156 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,560 "Great, I've got a chance of scoring my second goal." 1157 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:57,920 But out the corner of my eye, 1158 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,280 I can see the defender breaking his neck to stop me having a shot. 1159 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,240 So, I know that if he's breaking his neck to come from there, 1160 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,240 I know that Shearer's gonna be on his own. 1161 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,760 Sheringham again... 1162 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,880 And Shearer... And it's 3-0! 1163 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,240 When you do things in training, 1164 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,760 the collection and the work you do is all prepared 1165 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,520 to go from small things to bigger things to better things, 1166 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,280 and trying to get that EXACTLY as you want it. 1167 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,520 But we were too much for 'em. 1168 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,960 I think that summed up what we were, who we were. 1169 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,400 It summed up the team spirit, 1170 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,680 it summed up the way Terry wanted us to play. 1171 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,040 It was a great team goal. 1172 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,400 I was just fortune enough to be on the end of it. 1173 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,880 We could see the Dutch going, 1174 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,920 "We're the ones meant to be playing football here, not England." 1175 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,320 It was one of those games where everyone was 10/10. 1176 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,680 You had to be 10/10. 1177 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:57,720 We was enjoying it... 1178 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,760 It was just free-flowing football. 1179 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,880 It was just like no one had a care in the world. 1180 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,720 It was just playing to our abilities. 1181 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,560 Oh, and a deflection and a super save! 1182 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,320 And Sheringham...it's four! 1183 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,320 What you see is England moving the ball around sweetly, naturally, 1184 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,440 quickly, fluently, 1185 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,640 in a way that you've very, very rarely seen from an England team. 1186 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,840 And if you want the performance that defines 1187 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,960 the best of Terry Venables as an England manager, 1188 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,560 it was that game against Holland. 1189 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,760 Because they absolutely destroyed Holland. 1190 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,480 I've never seen a performance like that from an England team. 1191 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,240 Never... 1192 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,400 Where does last night's satisfaction rate in your career, Terry? 1193 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,280 (CHUCKLES) Very highly! 1194 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,200 I mean, it was very satisfying to play so well 1195 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,720 against a team so good. 1196 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,560 And it was always gonna be a good football match, 1197 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,480 um, it was never gonna be anything but that. 1198 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,160 But if the boys hadn't have got it right, 1199 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,520 it would have been us running around and us trailing. 1200 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,520 So, that was the satisfying point of it. 1201 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,640 The previous tournament, the 1994 World Cup in America, 1202 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,320 England hadn't qualified for it. 1203 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,920 Two years later, they're tearing Holland to shreds in the final group game 1204 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,120 and starting to make people think they're going to win a trophy 1205 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,040 for the first time in 30 years. 1206 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,640 We've just done to the Dutch what they normally do to everybody else. 1207 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,400 We've got a chance of winning this. 1208 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,680 It's recent history now that Spurs called me while I was away in Florida, 1209 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,960 and before you could have said 'Chris Waddle' 1210 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,720 here I am at White Hart Lane. 1211 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,720 There's a trope in the life of a Spurs fan. 1212 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,480 You're waiting for the messiah. 1213 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,320 Every time there's a new manager, you think this is it! 1214 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,440 You know, "We're gonna win the title again!" 1215 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:51,480 And we come to the day that Terry Venables arrives at Spurs, 1216 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,080 and he is the messiah! 1217 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,960 Now, what about Tottenham? 1218 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,080 You've had no money to spend this summer. 1219 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,360 Thought you were gonna give me a few quid there, the way you said that! 1220 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,560 (LAUGHTER) 1221 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:05,600 Correct... 1222 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,360 But they also lost money in other off the field activities. 1223 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,880 That's right, that's right. 1224 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,720 You know, the debt spiral at Spurs is in crisis really... 1225 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,240 And Spurs are in the FA Cup final. 1226 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,640 But of course, in the background, 1227 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,320 Spurs are also going deeper and deeper into debt. 1228 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,360 And unbeknown to the fans, 1229 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,800 the night before the cup final, 1230 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,160 Terry Venables was trying to get together a consortium to buy the club 1231 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,520 off of Irving Scholar. 1232 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,800 Paul Stewart with a chance for Spurs! 1233 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,240 And the equaliser! 1234 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,240 Spurs have won the FA Cup for a record eighth time! 1235 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,800 Here's the man... Look at Terry Venables! 1236 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,160 Goodness me... 1237 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,000 Even though we were celebrating in style, 1238 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,280 standing there, 1239 01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,720 I couldn't help thinking, 1240 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,920 "Would all be well for the future of this great club?" 1241 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,400 I happened to know Terry Venables, 1242 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,080 so I just picked up the phone to ask to speak to him... 1243 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,360 ..uh, knowing that he was kind of putting together some consortium of some kind. 1244 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,040 And that's it... 1245 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,640 Mad, no? 1246 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,480 The Spurs manager Terry Venables 1247 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,680 and millionaire businessman Alan Sugar 1248 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,440 have taken control of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. 1249 01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:30,560 When he took on Spurs and went in on the first day, 1250 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,840 he had a nasty surprise, 1251 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:38,840 because I think he found now that he was now moving with people from an ENTIRELY different world. 1252 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,840 Well, I think that Terry, in hindsight must have thought... 1253 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,360 "Oh, there's this rich bloke coming along 1254 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,960 who wants to own a football club." 1255 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,400 And so, if you think that, 1256 01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:49,520 you can also think, 1257 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,280 "Stick him in the corner, give him a couple of seats there. 1258 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,880 That'll be it... He'll be happy. 1259 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,400 Give us the money and off we go." 1260 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:03,640 Alan Sugar had thought Terry was going to manage the football side, 1261 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,480 while he, Alan Sugar, looked after the business side. 1262 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:13,280 But then Terry announces that he's not gonna be a hands-on manager. 1263 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,480 And this isn't what Alan Sugar was expecting. 1264 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,240 He said to me, "There can't be two bosses." 1265 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,680 And it was just a simple matter that we clashed a lot. 1266 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,120 We did clash, 1267 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,720 perhaps worse than I've ever clashed with anyone else. 1268 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:34,760 It's Terry's heart's desire to become the first former footballer 1269 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,680 to have control of his own club. 1270 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,400 And that's where it starts to go wrong. 1271 01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:43,600 Total clash of egos... 1272 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,520 I mean, you can imagine, can't you? 1273 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,000 Come December '91, Alan writes a new shares issue, 1274 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,120 which gives him more control of the club. 1275 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,160 The relationship between the two men dissolved into bickering 1276 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,360 and boardroom rows. 1277 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,200 Off the pitch, things had got so bad 1278 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,720 either the chairman or his chief executive had to go. 1279 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,720 You can see that this is gonna get worse and worse, 1280 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,760 and it DOES get worse and worse, 1281 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:15,800 to the point of a board meeting at White Hart Lane 1282 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,160 where Alan Sugar... 1283 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,960 ..hands Terry Venables a letter, 1284 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,560 asking him to resign, sell his shares 1285 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,000 and leave the club. 1286 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:29,520 This is a huge shock, isn't it? 1287 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,960 (CLAMOURING) 1288 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,760 Mister Venables is no longer employed by Tottenham Hotspur's PLC. 1289 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,200 We don't want him there, 1290 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,400 the board of directors don't want him there, 1291 01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:44,160 and if I have anything to do with it, 1292 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,080 he is not coming back there at all. 1293 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,440 Sugar voted to dismiss me, 1294 01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:52,440 and I am talking and have been talking to solicitors. 1295 01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:56,880 Um, and I'm advised that's all I can say at this moment, 1296 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:57,920 I'm afraid. 1297 01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,440 He wouldn't let it drop. 1298 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:01,520 He wouldn't give in. 1299 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,840 And there was a lot of dirt being thrown around about him, 1300 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,200 which wasn't true. 1301 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,400 And I think that damaged his reputation. 1302 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,120 The fans' favourite went to the High Court to seek reinstatement, 1303 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,560 but the judges were unmoved. 1304 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,800 The judge just says, 1305 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,080 "Well, you know, there's no reason why Spurs can't sack their chief executive, 1306 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,200 so that's it..." 1307 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,680 Venables is thrown overboard. 1308 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,720 I think I've always got on well with football people, 1309 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,000 even the press, if they're football people... 1310 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,600 The ones I've fallen out with and I don't get on with are not football people. 1311 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,680 The way it ended at Spurs was his lowest point. 1312 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,440 I think he was, um, hurt. 1313 01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:48,440 I think it was the worst time in his career. 1314 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,000 You respect him as a football man but not as a businessman? 1315 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,040 Well... 1316 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,560 No one's ever disputed his footballing ability. 1317 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,040 We've got another game to play against a very good opposition. 1318 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,720 Um, they're developing all the time, but we've laid our plans out 1319 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,240 and hopefully we're in fine fettle. 1320 01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:24,920 There was huge expectation of us, going into the Spain game. 1321 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,680 Everyone believed we were gonna go and steamroller them. 1322 01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:34,520 If we felt as though life was gonna be easy, 1323 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,960 we were brought straight back down to earth again. 1324 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,560 They were the better team on the day, no doubt about that. 1325 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,240 And the flag has stayed down! 1326 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,840 Manjarin, there's a chance here! 1327 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,040 Oh, and David Seaman right out of his goal 1328 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,480 and Pearce coming back to save the day! 1329 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:51,800 It wasn't the best spectacle. 1330 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,320 It was a grind, again. 1331 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,360 Maybe two very tactical managers cancelling each other out. 1332 01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,080 As the final whistle goes, 1333 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,120 and what we're gonna get now is a penalty shoot-out. 1334 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,040 I didn't wanna put pressure on 'em, you know? 1335 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,320 You know what it's like, 1336 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,240 people think, "I can't take a penalty!" 1337 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,440 Those that want to take a penalty, it's great, 1338 01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:13,040 and you know through experience, 1339 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,240 if you make someone take a penalty that don't want to take a penalty, 1340 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,080 he will say, "I can't take penalties." 1341 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,200 Or you see it in their eyes... Yeah, right. 1342 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,280 So, it's a matter of what's between the ears... 1343 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,680 Two hours of football had ended. 1344 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,600 We've come to a situation where we all joined together. 1345 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,360 I knew that I had to get to Terry and put my services forward. 1346 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,480 I couldn't live with myself if I didn't, you know, with my history. 1347 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,360 Stuart Pearce, 1348 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,720 who's done the job for Nottingham Forest... 1349 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,000 Can he do it for England? 1350 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,880 He can't! 1351 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,440 In 1990, 1352 01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:54,800 Pearce is one of two England players to miss penalties 1353 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,400 against Germany at the end of a World Cup. 1354 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:03,960 We were all aware of what had happened in the '90 World Cup, 1355 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,080 and for him to put himself forward... 1356 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,440 And he wanted to, 1357 01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:10,280 you could tell there was a drive there, 1358 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,040 you could tell there was a hurt... 1359 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,440 I went straight up to Terry and said, 1360 01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:16,040 "Look, I'll take the third one." 1361 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,080 Terry looked back at me and went, "Are you fuckin' sure?" 1362 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,200 I went, "Yeah." He said, "OK, lovely." 1363 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,880 So, we come to the penalty shoot-out... 1364 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,400 Shearer first to go against Zubizarreta, 1365 01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:29,840 and he does it, 1-0! 1366 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,240 He's missed it! 1367 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,000 David Platt now for England... 1368 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,040 (CHEERING) 2-0! 1369 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,560 This is a big, big penalty now for Spain. 1370 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,400 Oh, and he took it very cleverly... 1371 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,360 Well, Stuart Pearce is up. 1372 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,560 Nobody really wants to see him miss it... 1373 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,960 At Italia '90, you saw him exposed and heartbroken. 1374 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,080 And you thought, 1375 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,280 "Let's hope he finds a way out of that one day." 1376 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,120 Six years later, there he goes again, 1377 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,720 walks up to the penalty spot... 1378 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,760 I mean, I was nervous... 1379 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,200 But I had a feeling that the stadium was more nervous than I was. 1380 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,320 When I saw Stuart Pearce walking down to take a penalty, 1381 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,760 I was like, "Oh, my God... Please score!" 1382 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,440 I've never wanted anybody to score so much! 1383 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,800 The whole of the stadium just held their breath... 1384 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,360 They were on my journey with me. 1385 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,280 Three out of three for England! 1386 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,920 There was a split second of calm 1387 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,680 and then a reaction of just sheer relief. 1388 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,440 (CHEERING) Wow, he's fired up for that! 1389 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,520 It wasn't his best penalty, he'll tell you that, 1390 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:56,560 I'm sure he will! 1391 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,240 He didn't strike it brilliantly! 1392 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,160 But it went in, 1393 01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,200 and then when he starts swearing and "COME ON"... 1394 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,320 He's looking right at me and I'm like... 1395 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:06,440 (LAUGHS) "Oh, God!" 1396 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,360 We were all so proud of him, 1397 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,560 that he buried it with the passion that he did, 1398 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,760 and celebrated it in style as well. 1399 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,480 It's the only picture that involves football I've got on my wall in my house. 1400 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,240 And it reminds me of the journey I was on. 1401 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,520 And it probably reminds me of learning from failure. 1402 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,360 Terry, what a roller-coaster, what a result! 1403 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,720 Yeah, it was everything that you would want in an event like that. 1404 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,760 I think everyone got their money's worth, 1405 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,760 guts and courage and passion, 1406 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,040 everything that you needed to dig out a result. 1407 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,040 And I'm not really apologising for winning on penalties... 1408 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,480 I've been on the other end of that, and it's fierce. 1409 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,000 There were people who found Venables difficult, 1410 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,600 there was no doubt about that. 1411 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:16,160 They did not feel that he should be the coach of the England national team. 1412 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,120 Terry Venables informed today the Football Association 1413 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:25,880 that he intends to leave his job as coach of the senior England team 1414 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,800 at the end of his contract 1415 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,400 after the European Championship finals this June. 1416 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,040 As it drifted into Euro '96, 1417 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,160 every single legal action, virtually, 1418 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,520 apart from the tiny ones, 1419 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,360 were still there, every libel action, 1420 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,360 including actions with Spurs and Alan Sugar. 1421 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,200 And we just had to keep managing them, 1422 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,720 and I don't quite know how he managed to separate it 1423 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,720 and keep his sort of brave, happy face on through the football. 1424 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,080 I think, without the legal issues, he'd have got a four-year contract. 1425 01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,000 Every other manager, after two years, 1426 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,360 they would extend his contract. 1427 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,560 But the FA was just reticent. 1428 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,760 He was so upset that they didn't extend it to the World Cup. 1429 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,120 He felt betrayed. 1430 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,520 There were individuals on the international committee 1431 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,800 that clearly didn't want Terry to carry on. 1432 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,400 And Terry wasn't happy with that, 1433 01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:23,760 he didn't want to be fighting that battle as well. 1434 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,360 We thought with all the battles going on outside, it should be unanimous. 1435 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,200 And he didn't feel he'd done anything 1436 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,040 to show he wasn't the right person to be the England manager through the World Cup. 1437 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,600 Thank you, Terry. Thank you. 1438 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:40,520 The honest answer to the question of did Terry regret his decision... 1439 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,800 I suspect deep down he regretted it. 1440 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:45,800 But his... 1441 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,800 He had pride, he thought he was right. 1442 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,600 It's like...why? 1443 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:54,720 Because he's so good! 1444 01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:56,440 You know? 1445 01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:59,440 And it was disappointing for that reason that we're losing him. 1446 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,760 So, it was a strange feeling. 1447 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,680 Obviously, I would want to leave the job on a successful note 1448 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:12,880 and I will be doing everything in my power to, uh, make it successful. 1449 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,680 They suddenly realised, the FA board, 1450 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:23,720 that they had thrown away the architect of England's arguably greatest night in 30 years. 1451 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,760 Who was gonna be blamed for it? 1452 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,200 They would have been terrified of England winning! 1453 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,840 It was definitely a bittersweet feeling. 1454 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,520 Terry was about to leave us, 1455 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,360 and we all felt like we deserved to win this tournament not only for ourselves, 1456 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,640 but for Terry as well and what he'd given us all. 1457 01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,240 Terry, it's the biggest game in England for 30 years. 1458 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,760 How comfortably does that sit on your shoulders? 1459 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,120 Well, it's obviously high pressured. 1460 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,640 Uh, there's a lot of expectancy. 1461 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,080 Everyone also knows what a good side they are, 1462 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:14,520 but we're ready. 1463 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,640 What does it mean to you personally? 1464 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,320 Well, it means the same to me as I should think it means to every Englishman. 1465 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,240 We're all very proud of the way the team's gone so far, 1466 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,520 and we hope to continue. 1467 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,080 Terry wanted us to relax, 1468 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,120 he wanted us to go out and try and enjoy it as much as we could. 1469 01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:36,000 He wanted us to go and take the game to the opposition, 1470 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,760 defend when we had to, stick together when we had to. 1471 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,360 He had us ready for all of that. 1472 01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:45,320 For us, it's the biggest game of our careers. 1473 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,680 Um, and really and truly... 1474 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,040 Everybody's saying how well we've done to reach the point that we have, 1475 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:52,560 but it's not good enough for us. 1476 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,400 We won't be content unless we pick that trophy up on Sunday. 1477 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,520 We knew the magnitude of the game. 1478 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,440 Terry didn't have to manage expectation, you know? 1479 01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:02,720 It was Germany... 1480 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,400 England by then actually deep down had developed an inferiority complex, 1481 01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:07,600 in relation to Germany. 1482 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,640 English football had stuttered along for 30 years, 1483 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,480 and German football had raced over the horizon. 1484 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:19,240 So, deep down, there was an envy and an insecurity in the England setup. 1485 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,560 So, at the start of it, 1486 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,480 there was a justifiable sense that this might be the end of this 30-year turnaround 1487 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,840 and England could turn this back in their favour. 1488 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,560 We've got the whole nation behind us. 1489 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:32,920 Everyone was with us. 1490 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,440 We created an unbelievable atmosphere, 1491 01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:36,880 a party atmosphere. 1492 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,520 And I think the whole country was hugely proud. 1493 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,120 It's escalating, every time we played, 1494 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,320 every day you woke up... 1495 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:47,520 You're reading the papers, you're watching the news, watching TV programmes. 1496 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,960 Everyone's talking about it, 1497 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,240 "It's gonna happen, football's comin' home." 1498 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,840 And then you'd turn up at Wembley 1499 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,440 and there'd be just thousands of people all waiting 1500 01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:57,800 just to see the coach going up into the tunnel! 1501 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,240 People hanging out of houses, hanging out of pubs, 1502 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,920 on the streets the cars were stopping and beeping. 1503 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,200 More police patrol to get us there... 1504 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,400 And you know, you could sense it. 1505 01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:09,320 You could sense it was just electric. 1506 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,320 You could sense that everybody believed. 1507 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,080 We felt we really got the detail right, 1508 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,680 we felt we could outplay them the way they were playing 1509 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,040 and they way we were set up. 1510 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,080 And there was a steely attitude, 1511 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,120 knowing that this game can be ours this time. 1512 01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:28,200 And I really did feel confident, quietly... 1513 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,160 Well, I think a lot of those memorable moments in your life... 1514 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,080 You really vividly see the colours. 1515 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,480 And Wembley, being as green as it is, 1516 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,240 the colours in the stands, 1517 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,840 you can really sense those pictures in your mind. 1518 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,440 ♪ It's comin' home, it's comin' home 1519 01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:51,880 ♪ It's comin' home... ♪ 1520 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,760 England have to switch... (CHEERING) 1521 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,360 Ince with the volley! 1522 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,480 Fisted away by Kopke! 1523 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,000 That was a terrific strike by Paul Ince! 1524 01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:09,880 A bright start for England... 1525 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,720 Gascoigne with the corner. 1526 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,160 This one was a set piece. 1527 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,920 This one was something we'd worked on in training. 1528 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,080 In towards the near post, a little flick-on... 1529 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:21,440 It's a goal for England! 1530 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:23,920 Alan Shearer! 1531 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,920 Shearer has done it again! 1532 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,440 His fifth goal in five games! 1533 01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:31,280 Delight for the English fans 1534 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,480 and THE perfect start! 1535 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,680 We've been really deadly from set pieces, 1536 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,280 but of all people to leave unmarked, Alan Shearer! 1537 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,600 In your naive player's mind, 1538 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,720 you think, "We're off and running here!" 1539 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,320 You know, "Here we go, the dream's unfolding." 1540 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,320 We couldn't have hoped for anything better than that, could we? 1541 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,360 We really couldn't. 1542 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,640 And really, payment in full for Terry Venables. 1543 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,360 There was a mentality between both teams, I think, 1544 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,400 that whoever won this picks up the trophy. 1545 01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:03,480 Here's Reuter... 1546 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,040 Moller's in there, but he's surrounded by grey shirts. 1547 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,680 I remember the ball got crossed in and he just had a side-footer, 1548 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,680 but it was like a side-footer with pace... 1549 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:22,200 It's 1-1! 1550 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,280 Well, that is a major blow... 1551 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,240 It proper flew into the goal, you know? 1552 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:29,520 And I've got no chance... 1553 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,560 After that, it was tight... 1554 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,600 They could have won it, should have won it. 1555 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,880 We could have won it, should have won it... 1556 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,720 Shearer's header! Just wide! 1557 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,920 Then we go into golden goal time... 1558 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,320 They were getting tired. 1559 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,840 Played down the line... 1560 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,960 And Darren Anderton was coming at the angle, 1561 01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,720 and I just think he's kinda scuffed it. 1562 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,240 And Anderton...! 1563 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:02,440 Oh, he's hit the post! 1564 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:04,760 They can't believe it, look... 1565 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,720 I think the ball was just behind him, 1566 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,320 he tried to get his foot round it 1567 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,600 and just managed to get his foot round it enough, 1568 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,120 but only enough to hit the post. 1569 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,480 Basically, the post is there and he's there! 1570 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:16,920 He can't miss it! 1571 01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,840 Um, and he bloody did... 1572 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,760 England get possession, played now to Teddy Sheringham. 1573 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:27,120 The chance that everyone remembers for me is the one that Gazza had. 1574 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,800 I still have nightmares about that now. 1575 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,480 Shearer on the far side... 1576 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:32,520 On for the volley... 1577 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:33,560 Oh! 1578 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,360 It was just that split second where Gazza stops... 1579 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,960 JUST for that split second, 1580 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,640 and that's why he's not able to get the contact on it. 1581 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,000 Gascoigne went flying in there, 1582 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,600 and it looked as though it needed just the merest touch! 1583 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,520 You know, a little toe poke would have had us in ecstasy. 1584 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,880 But... Ifs and buts, innit? 1585 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,000 Up and down the country, 1586 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,120 if you're not on the edge of your seat, 1587 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:07,960 I'm sure that's where you are now. 1588 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,160 There were some fantastic penalties that night. 1589 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,840 You know, one after the other, Shearer got us on our way. 1590 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,440 (CHEERING) 1-0! 1591 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,360 Pearcey... 1592 01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:21,480 Gazza... 1593 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:22,520 Platty... 1594 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,000 So, I'm on penalty number five. 1595 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,960 I've gotta tell you, it's the most nervous I've been on a football pitch EVER. 1596 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,480 So, Teddy Sheringham... 1597 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,080 (WHISTLE BLOWS) Long run-up... 1598 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,000 But will it be a successful conclusion? 1599 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,760 There's your answer! 1600 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,160 The relief and the ecstasy all in one feeling... 1601 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,520 Was just sort of drained, but elated at the same time 1602 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,360 that I'm not gonna be remembered for the rest of my life 1603 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,400 as that fella that missed the penalty. 1604 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,200 Once you go past five, you're now searching... 1605 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,800 But I knew in my mind who was gonna be my next two or three people. 1606 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,640 And yet, I didn't wanna put pressure on 'em. 1607 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,680 You want volunteers, really. 1608 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,320 I just remember Bryan Robson coming up to me and saying, 1609 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,440 "If it goes to a sixth penalty, are you happy to take one?" 1610 01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:19,440 And you know, 1611 01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:21,800 I've been captain of every club I've played for 1612 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,400 and I've always felt responsibility. 1613 01:27:24,440 --> 01:27:28,440 And if you're asked to step forward, in my head you step forward. 1614 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,440 Everyone wants to know, always, about who didn't wanna take 'em. 1615 01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:36,480 I will take that to the grave with me. 1616 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:37,600 I won't... I won't... 1617 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,800 Because we were collective responsibility right the way through. 1618 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,560 But Southgate, he was looking at me, 1619 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,560 where one or two maybe wasn't... (LAUGHS) 1620 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,920 And, uh, he's a good striker of the ball. 1621 01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:52,640 Well, he's only just recently forced his way into the England side, 1622 01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,000 Southgate... 1623 01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:55,920 Norden, they call him at Aston Villa. 1624 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,440 He does everything right. 1625 01:27:57,480 --> 01:27:59,560 Well, let's hope he can do this right as well. 1626 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:02,840 When Gareth walked up, I was like, 1627 01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,880 "Hang on a minute, 1628 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,320 I've not even seen him take a penalty in training!" 1629 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,000 (WHISTLE BLOWS) 1630 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,640 Saved it! 1631 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,160 Oh, my word... 1632 01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,680 The period straight afterwards, my head was scrambled, really... 1633 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,880 All you can think about is the team, 1634 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,920 all the supporters... 1635 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,440 Um, the fact that you know the country had been on this high 1636 01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:35,440 and ultimately, 1637 01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:38,720 as the person on the spot at the time, 1638 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,240 you feel responsible for that. 1639 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,040 And suddenly, 1640 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,720 England's dreams of European glory are beginning to fade... 1641 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,480 UNLESS David Seaman can bring off a miraculous save 1642 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,680 from Andreas Moller. 1643 01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,280 When Moller comes up, I don't feel good about it. 1644 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,480 (WHISTLE BLOWS) 1645 01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,720 And the Germans go into the final! 1646 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:06,880 And England are out! 1647 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:13,960 I could only feel for Southgate, 1648 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,480 because you just feel like you've let everyone down. 1649 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,080 You don't even think about yourself, you just think... 1650 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:24,680 And I just really wanted to give him a big cuddle. 1651 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,520 I can kind of recall him saying that... 1652 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:30,600 You know, 1653 01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,880 "Look, this is football... It's not down to you." 1654 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,480 And of course, 1655 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,160 that isn't really registering at the time. 1656 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,160 But he had never changed, you know? 1657 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,440 You didn't see any anger, disgust, disappointment... 1658 01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,360 He'd been through so much in his life 1659 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,280 that I think he had that context... 1660 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,040 But it wasn't to be. 1661 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,080 It wasn't to be. 1662 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:02,920 It wasn't gonna be. 1663 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,520 Everything ends with ONE kick of the ball. 1664 01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,760 Until that final penalty from Germany goes in, 1665 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,040 England can still win it, Venables is still manager. 1666 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:19,400 And a fraction of a second between the ball crossing the line 1667 01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:21,080 ends everything...it's gone. 1668 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,560 This team has taken this crowd with them, 1669 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:25,760 they've won them over. 1670 01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,040 And I tell you something, 1671 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,040 they've put English football right back on the map, this team. 1672 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,520 Normally, it was sort of dragged to an end. 1673 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:39,280 This one was just guillotined in ONE action... 1674 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,560 Police in riot gear made several attempts 1675 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,480 to disperse the rioters from the fountains, 1676 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,400 yet many seemed intent on breaking through the police line, 1677 01:30:53,440 --> 01:30:55,320 trying to head for the West End. 1678 01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:57,920 Nearby, 1679 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,920 two Ministry of Defence police officers had to run from their patrol car. 1680 01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,200 Police described the violence as a sad event 1681 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,400 which has marred a successful tournament, 1682 01:31:06,440 --> 01:31:10,400 but blamed the disturbances on a relatively small mob who are not genuine fans. 1683 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,560 We went back to the hotel, 1684 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,760 it was a real sombre place, as you could expect. 1685 01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:22,840 People had a few drinks, 1686 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,680 I gave myself the luxury to have a drink 1687 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,280 and sat with Gareth and a few of the boys, you know... 1688 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,560 And there was a real great togetherness amongst the group, 1689 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,240 amongst everybody there. 1690 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,760 But we knew how close we were, 1691 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,520 and that was the frustration. 1692 01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:42,440 I had to get up early the next morning, 1693 01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:43,480 to do whatever, 1694 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,840 an interview at the end of the drive... 1695 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,760 And the hotel did look slightly as if it had been ransacked! 1696 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:55,160 And now players are coming down and leaving... 1697 01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:56,680 And that was very sad. 1698 01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:02,600 And now I've got the responsibility of taking Terry Venables to the LAST press conference. 1699 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:05,360 And when we got there... 1700 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,280 ..his, uh, performance was fantastic. 1701 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:16,000 We've shown that we've no need to be frightened of anybody in the world anymore. 1702 01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,040 We've played Holland, Spain and Germany, 1703 01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,080 three of the four favourites, 1704 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,920 and we can be very proud with the way we've dealt with that. 1705 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,520 Uh, I wouldn't have changed anything except the result. 1706 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,800 There were a few tears... 1707 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,160 (CHUCKLES SOFTLY) Quite emotional about it, still. 1708 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:35,200 Um... 1709 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,520 Because that finally WAS the end of that era. 1710 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,880 But boy, it had been a fantastic ride. 1711 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,040 ♪ There must be lights 1712 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:55,960 Sorry, is it too early? 1713 01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:05,080 ♪ There must be lights burning brighter somewhere 1714 01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:11,040 ♪ Got to be birds flying higher 1715 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,640 ♪ In a sky more blue 1716 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:18,840 ♪ If I can dream of a better land 1717 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,880 ♪ Where all my brothers walk hand in hand 1718 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,320 ♪ Tell me why 1719 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:24,360 ♪ Why... 1720 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:25,560 ♪ Oh, why 1721 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:26,600 ♪ Why... 1722 01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:31,040 ♪ Oh, why can't my dream come true? 1723 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:34,720 ♪ Oh, why... 1724 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,120 Terry's story is a bit of a Greek tragedy. 1725 01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,640 It is hubris 1726 01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,480 and then it's Terry meeting his nemesis. 1727 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,480 Nemesis in the form of Alan Sugar. 1728 01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,520 I just remember sitting with Terry, 1729 01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,200 and him saying that this journey of life, it's not a rehearsal. 1730 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,960 I just thought it was a brilliant moment 1731 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,880 that captured everything about him. 1732 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:08,000 ♪ Why won't that sun appear? 1733 01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:10,040 When he was working, 1734 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,040 he was gonna do everything he could to win. 1735 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:14,960 But also, he was gonna enjoy his life. 1736 01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:19,760 There's been some things I've been able to do 1737 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,800 that will go with me to the end of my life, 1738 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,240 and I suppose, 1739 01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,080 in those moments where I've had those choices, 1740 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,760 I've thought about Terry's words quite a lot. 1741 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,240 Just his smile...you know? 1742 01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,520 That... That smile, you know! 1743 01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,520 And it was just... I'll never forget it! 1744 01:34:40,480 --> 01:34:43,880 I feel very pleased and privileged, in a way, 1745 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,800 that I was able to call him my friend. 1746 01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:52,040 Saying goodbye to Terry at the end was very emotional, I think, 1747 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,480 for a lot of players. 1748 01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:59,960 He embedded the foundations for us to be a very good footballing nation. 1749 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,200 We were back on song, we were feared again. 1750 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,720 It was never quite the same after Terry went... 1751 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,160 ♪ While I can think... 1752 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,080 ♪ While I can talk 1753 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,360 ♪ While I can stand... 1754 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,720 I think the way Terry would like to remembered 1755 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:23,000 is for grandfathers or fathers to see a picture of him 1756 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,280 and for them to point to it and say, 1757 01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:26,720 "See that man there? 1758 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,080 He was the greatest England manager we've ever had." 1759 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,160 ♪ While I can stand and walk... 1760 01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,600 ♪ If I can dream... 1761 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,200 ♪ Right now 1762 01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:47,240 ♪ Oh, yeah! ♪ 1763 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,360 ♪ That's life 1764 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,400 ♪ That's life... 1765 01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:15,600 ♪ That's what all the people say 1766 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:22,400 ♪ You're ridin' high in April, shot down in May 1767 01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:27,640 ♪ But I know I'm gonna change that tune 1768 01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:33,920 ♪ When I'm back on top, back on top in June 1769 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:36,480 ♪ I said that's life... 1770 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,360 ♪ That's life... 1771 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,120 ♪ And as funny as it may seem 1772 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:48,120 ♪ Some people get their kicks stompin' on a dream 1773 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,280 ♪ But I don't let it, let it get me down 1774 01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:59,800 ♪ Cos this fine old world, it's keeps spinnin' around 1775 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,840 ♪ I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet 1776 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,760 ♪ A pawn and a king 1777 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,440 ♪ I've been up and down and over and out 1778 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,120 ♪ And I know one thing... 1779 01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:19,880 ♪ Each time I find myself flat on my face 1780 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:27,000 ♪ I pick myself up and get back in the race 1781 01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:28,600 ♪ That's life 1782 01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,200 ♪ That's life... 1783 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,480 ♪ I tell you, I can't deny it 1784 01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,440 ♪ I thought of quittin', baby... ♪ 1785 01:37:37,480 --> 01:37:40,440 (MUSIC FADES) 1786 01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:43,440 AccessibleCustomerService@sky.uk