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So Drew doesn't really talk about his mother 922 00:40:52,060 --> 00:40:54,500 as much as I'd hope. 923 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,900 We met in '04 and he told me a little bit about everything, 924 00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:01,510 but we only really talk about it on the anniversary. 925 00:41:01,510 --> 00:41:03,990 But this is something that he has been involved in 926 00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:05,120 in the last two or three years 927 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,110 and I feel like this is closure 928 00:41:07,110 --> 00:41:08,680 and almost a catharsis for him. 929 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,160 - I started going down the rabbit hole, 930 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,360 doing a bunch of research. 931 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,100 I was fine, I got a little angry for a little bit at a time, 932 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,573 but now I'm pretty much at peace with everything. 933 00:41:19,890 --> 00:41:23,740 - Drew has, as you know, lost his mother 934 00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:25,090 before he was fully grown. 935 00:41:25,090 --> 00:41:28,130 He's an example of someone who's been able 936 00:41:28,130 --> 00:41:31,630 to weather the loss at a very inconvenient time 937 00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:33,810 that was too soon and somehow managed 938 00:41:33,810 --> 00:41:38,393 to make himself an adult and a father and a husband. 939 00:41:41,410 --> 00:41:44,600 - This picture was taken in Miami, Florida. 940 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,820 It was Jean's 40th birthday weekend. 941 00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:48,653 It was a lot of fun. 942 00:41:48,653 --> 00:41:51,590 It was something that we always planned to do 943 00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:54,030 when Jean turned 40 and we actually did it. 944 00:41:54,030 --> 00:41:57,780 So my husband calligraphed this for me. 945 00:41:57,780 --> 00:42:02,090 It is actually something that Jean sent, an email. 946 00:42:02,090 --> 00:42:04,960 She didn't write it, but it was an email that she sent, 947 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,960 she found, called From Me to You to several people 948 00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:13,780 minutes before the towers were struck. 949 00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:15,320 She was trying to get her life together 950 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,530 and this was maybe something that 951 00:42:17,530 --> 00:42:22,040 she was reading periodically to help her, you know, 952 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,190 reevaluate her life and... 953 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:27,410 - Divorce was a pretty rough time for my mom. 954 00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:28,840 It hit her really hard. 955 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,513 Just emotionally and physically. 956 00:42:31,350 --> 00:42:32,730 But I felt at that point, at 9/11, 957 00:42:32,730 --> 00:42:34,900 she was actually in good physical health. 958 00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:36,240 She started working out more. 959 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,500 I guess we have big life changes, 960 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:39,040 you go one way or the other. 961 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,600 She was exercising more. She loved biking. 962 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,750 So she was by bicycle riding. 963 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:45,413 She was losing weight. 964 00:42:45,413 --> 00:42:47,310 She was definitely happier, for sure. 965 00:42:47,310 --> 00:42:49,530 So that's kind of a bright side that, you know. 966 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:50,660 I always hope when I go, you know, 967 00:42:50,660 --> 00:42:55,483 it's at a peak of happiness, as opposed to the latter. 968 00:43:01,630 --> 00:43:03,573 We got chickens in this past year. 969 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,710 They provide us with breakfast every morning. 970 00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:08,333 The kids love handling them. 971 00:43:10,330 --> 00:43:12,380 Some chickens are more social than others. 972 00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:13,213 Probably... 973 00:43:13,213 --> 00:43:14,385 Oh, no. 974 00:43:14,385 --> 00:43:15,885 So I couldn't be happier here. 975 00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:19,860 They definitely have different personalities, though. 976 00:43:19,860 --> 00:43:22,330 Chickens aren't as dumb as you would think. 977 00:43:22,330 --> 00:43:23,580 They actually understand, 978 00:43:26,115 --> 00:43:27,520 up to like 20 words or something, I read. 979 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,770 I don't know if that's true or not, but... 980 00:43:29,770 --> 00:43:30,603 I like animals. 981 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:42,450 - So Jean's name is right here. 982 00:43:43,460 --> 00:43:44,950 - She worked in the city. 983 00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:47,213 She was usually out of the house before I even woke up 984 00:43:47,213 --> 00:43:49,650 because I drove myself to school at that point. 985 00:43:49,650 --> 00:43:51,410 And then she didn't get home usually until late 986 00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:53,000 and when she came home, I was out with my friends 987 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,460 and then we saw each other for dinner 988 00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:57,730 and then I'd be out until whenever. 989 00:43:57,730 --> 00:43:59,600 She was probably asleep by the time I got home. 990 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,760 Being a kid, you want to be out doing stuff, 991 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,310 and like I said, she was commuting to the city every day. 992 00:44:04,310 --> 00:44:07,370 - You know, I had not seen this memorial before 993 00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:10,090 and I was surprised how immense it is 994 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,070 and exactly from what I read points right to 995 00:44:15,070 --> 00:44:16,897 where the Towers stood. 996 00:44:16,897 --> 00:44:17,956 - [Man 1] We got a plane crashed 997 00:44:17,956 --> 00:44:19,921 into the World Trade Center. 998 00:44:19,921 --> 00:44:21,911 Are you aware of that? 999 00:44:21,911 --> 00:44:23,747 - [Man 2] The World Trade Center in Manhattan? 1000 00:44:23,747 --> 00:44:26,140 - [Man 1] World Trade Center in Manhattan. 1001 00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:27,800 - Just another normal work day. 1002 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,550 Drop Marissa off at my parents' house and got to work. 1003 00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:34,763 I don't remember the exact time, 1004 00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:38,500 but my principal came knocking on my door 1005 00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:42,340 and took me into the hallway and said that my mother 1006 00:44:42,340 --> 00:44:43,943 had called and... 1007 00:44:44,835 --> 00:44:47,570 (sighs) 1008 00:44:47,570 --> 00:44:49,800 Wanted me to go to her house. 1009 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,620 - So I was walking through the halls 1010 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:53,240 and there's just a lot of commotion going on. 1011 00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,540 I had no idea what was happening 1012 00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:58,270 and then they called, I guess like a meeting 1013 00:44:58,270 --> 00:45:00,390 for the whole school into the gym, 1014 00:45:00,390 --> 00:45:02,950 and they kind of explained what happened. 1015 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:05,200 - The principal explained that planes flew 1016 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,162 into the buildings that she had worked in. 1017 00:45:09,162 --> 00:45:12,745 (indistinct radio chatter) 1018 00:45:22,250 --> 00:45:23,300 - My mom works there. 1019 00:45:24,337 --> 00:45:26,130 So it's just like everyone else that day. 1020 00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:28,630 If anyone knew anyone that worked there or around there, 1021 00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:29,960 they were on the phone. 1022 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,680 - And so I kind of went into numb mode, I call it. 1023 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,080 You know, I just like, didn't have any feelings. 1024 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,900 And she asked if someone should drive me home 1025 00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:41,920 and I said, no, no, I'll go. 1026 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,880 And I drove home just totally focused. 1027 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,700 And when I got there, you know, 1028 00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:49,719 you just keep seeing those same pictures. 1029 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,570 That's all that we had at the time was those pictures 1030 00:45:51,570 --> 00:45:55,420 of the planes flying into those buildings. 1031 00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:57,080 - And we just, we went home 1032 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,900 and I wasn't a smoker back then, 1033 00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:02,160 but that day I sure as heck had a cigarette. (laughs) 1034 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,963 - I called their high school and they had already left. 1035 00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:10,023 (water sploshing) 1036 00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:20,630 I have not been up there. 1037 00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:24,560 I've only been to the memorial inside 1038 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,480 and I've been to the waterfalls, 1039 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,900 but I have not been up into the tower. 1040 00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,480 You know, 'cause after 20 years, 1041 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,950 you come to a place in your mind where you're, you know, 1042 00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:38,170 not necessarily at peace, but you've kind, of me personally, 1043 00:46:38,170 --> 00:46:42,180 I've kind of put it in itS little pocket, you know? 1044 00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:45,490 And then every once in a while something happens 1045 00:46:45,490 --> 00:46:48,420 or, you know, someone says something 1046 00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:51,150 and it kind of brings you back to a little bit 1047 00:46:51,150 --> 00:46:54,380 of that place where you don't always want to be. 1048 00:46:54,380 --> 00:46:57,490 The next day, though, my two brothers and my sister 1049 00:46:57,490 --> 00:46:58,950 went into the city. 1050 00:46:58,950 --> 00:47:02,000 I stayed home with my parents and Marissa 1051 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,580 and they took pictures of Jean, and, you know, 1052 00:47:04,580 --> 00:47:07,500 people were just trying to find people 1053 00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:10,760 that could find their loved. 1054 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,860 - Nothing was ever found of my mother, so, 1055 00:47:14,318 --> 00:47:15,410 had nothing to go on as far as 1056 00:47:15,410 --> 00:47:18,078 physical evidence for her, personally. 1057 00:47:18,078 --> 00:47:19,460 And I was probably the most optimistic person 1058 00:47:19,460 --> 00:47:20,293 in my family. 1059 00:47:20,293 --> 00:47:24,330 I was like, you know, she's gonna come out of it. 1060 00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:25,470 We'll find her eventually. 1061 00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:26,717 Even weeks after that 1062 00:47:26,717 --> 00:47:28,710 and even years after I was like, you know, who knows, 1063 00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:32,520 maybe she was in a coma or she wandered off somewhere. 1064 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,963 I think with a weekend, my uncle, 1065 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,820 who is her brother, pretty much, you know, 1066 00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:42,850 he analyzed where she worked, where her office was. 1067 00:47:42,850 --> 00:47:45,263 - She was on the hundredth floor, 1068 00:47:45,263 --> 00:47:47,730 and there was no way that she could have... 1069 00:47:47,730 --> 00:47:49,990 - He just didn't want me hold up false hope. 1070 00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:51,130 You know, pretty much gave it to me straight. 1071 00:47:51,130 --> 00:47:52,970 It's like, you know, the chances of her 1072 00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:54,883 making it out were pretty slim, 1073 00:47:56,720 --> 00:48:01,420 so that was pretty disappointing to say the least. 1074 00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:04,720 He could have let me hold on to some hope. (laughs) 1075 00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:07,777 But no, I always like people to give it to me straight. 1076 00:48:07,777 --> 00:48:09,440 I like to do that for other people, 1077 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,063 so I expect the same in return. 1078 00:48:12,002 --> 00:48:14,500 - I mean, I have to say when I'm with my niece and nephew, 1079 00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:18,470 Drew and Jamie, Jean's kids, it's a comfort, you know? 1080 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:19,950 She's there. 1081 00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:24,350 I mean, she's everywhere, but she's there, with those kids. 1082 00:48:24,350 --> 00:48:28,973 I went to the 10 year memorial when it was 10 years ago. 1083 00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:36,010 Didn't really do anything for me as far as helping me... 1084 00:48:38,780 --> 00:48:43,150 Grieve because I've already, you know, done that. 1085 00:48:43,150 --> 00:48:47,580 So I don't need to go to any physical space 1086 00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:52,580 to look at that horror again and again and again. 1087 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,210 You know, I kind of just deal in my own way by myself 1088 00:48:58,210 --> 00:49:01,763 or with my family or whatever it happens to be. 1089 00:49:04,340 --> 00:49:08,190 But yeah, I'm not interested in doing those things. 1090 00:49:08,190 --> 00:49:09,893 The 10th anniversary was enough. 1091 00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:14,340 It's just amazing to me that that, 1092 00:49:14,340 --> 00:49:17,460 and I know that's the whole crux of this whole thing. 1093 00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:21,177 Like, how does that just, you know... 1094 00:49:21,177 --> 00:49:25,093 How do those buildings perfectly fall? 1095 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,252 You know... 1096 00:49:28,252 --> 00:49:29,520 - So yeah, it just strikes me as odd 1097 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,170 that three buildings within a couple hours 1098 00:49:32,170 --> 00:49:33,593 of each other all fell down. 1099 00:49:34,450 --> 00:49:37,090 So it seems like something else was going on. 1100 00:49:37,090 --> 00:49:40,987 - And Drew is a man on a mission right now. 1101 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,410 He wants all the answers. 1102 00:49:44,410 --> 00:49:47,010 - And there was a lot of stuff that didn't get analyzed 1103 00:49:47,010 --> 00:49:48,280 correctly, in my opinion. 1104 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,560 I mean, if they had done their job, 1105 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,160 I probably wouldn't be here now. 1106 00:49:52,693 --> 00:49:53,590 You know shooting this documentary 1107 00:49:53,590 --> 00:49:55,803 and trying to help get a new investigation. 1108 00:49:56,690 --> 00:49:59,020 - I think we owe, as a country, 1109 00:49:59,020 --> 00:50:03,480 we owe it to the poor people that have passed away 1110 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,370 and their families and the world 1111 00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:07,450 to find out what really happened here 1112 00:50:07,450 --> 00:50:09,863 because it's not just, you know, 1113 00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:13,813 planes hit, book closed kind of thing. 1114 00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:25,080 - From the time I was a little kid, 1115 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,927 I was building things 1116 00:50:25,927 --> 00:50:27,970 and I was always trying to build something 1117 00:50:27,970 --> 00:50:30,190 My mother used to say, if it can be taken apart, 1118 00:50:30,190 --> 00:50:32,380 Bill will take it apart 'cause that's what he does. 1119 00:50:32,380 --> 00:50:35,228 He wants to know how things work. (laughs) 1120 00:50:35,228 --> 00:50:37,070 And I pulled a lot of things apart. 1121 00:50:37,070 --> 00:50:40,530 My name is Bill Brinnier and I am a architect. 1122 00:50:40,530 --> 00:50:43,670 I've been an architect since 1984, 1123 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:46,105 but I've done architecture all my life. 1124 00:50:46,105 --> 00:50:47,600 You know, I grew up right around here 1125 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,700 and here, in this house and I must've built 1126 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:53,620 20 forts in the woods. 1127 00:50:53,620 --> 00:50:56,050 And the last one I built, I think I was 15 years old. 1128 00:50:56,050 --> 00:50:57,750 It was framed properly. 1129 00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:59,920 It was completely wired for electricity. 1130 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,790 I used (laughs) I used barbed wire to run electricity 1131 00:51:03,790 --> 00:51:06,160 from the house up to to my tree house, 1132 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,670 which was 100 yards up in the woods. 1133 00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:10,940 I applied to Pratt and I got in. 1134 00:51:10,940 --> 00:51:14,700 That January, I moved down to New York and went to Pratt. 1135 00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:16,700 And it was interesting because when I got there, 1136 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:19,340 the World Trade Center was under construction. 1137 00:51:19,340 --> 00:51:21,870 And from my dorm out in Brooklyn, 1138 00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:24,330 you could see the Two Towers coming up. 1139 00:51:24,330 --> 00:51:25,790 The World Trade Center buildings, 1140 00:51:25,790 --> 00:51:27,260 each building was compared, 1141 00:51:27,260 --> 00:51:29,910 somebody from the New York Times I think said 1142 00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:32,140 the World Trade Center looks like the box 1143 00:51:32,140 --> 00:51:34,680 that the Empire State Building came in (laughs), 1144 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,790 but it was fascinating and they were always lit up, 1145 00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:39,330 even at night and there was cranes on top 1146 00:51:39,330 --> 00:51:40,740 and there was such activity. 1147 00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:41,573 So it was fun. 1148 00:51:41,573 --> 00:51:43,110 You know, we got to watch that go up. 1149 00:51:43,110 --> 00:51:46,900 Little did we know what was waiting for us in the future. 1150 00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:49,463 - What's striking about Bill is that 1151 00:51:49,463 --> 00:51:51,910 even though he lost his best friend 1152 00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:53,640 and went through some tough times, 1153 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,430 he was fortunate enough to be able to pull out of it. 1154 00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:56,840 Not everybody does. 1155 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,660 - You know, I met Frank. 1156 00:51:58,660 --> 00:52:01,180 I met Frank de Martini at Pratt. 1157 00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:03,040 He was one of the first guys I met. 1158 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,680 For some reason, I just fell in with him 1159 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,490 and the two of us really, really hit it off. 1160 00:52:08,490 --> 00:52:10,670 We were popular in the community. 1161 00:52:10,670 --> 00:52:14,410 Lots of people knew us and work just came out of the sky. 1162 00:52:14,410 --> 00:52:18,320 You know, we had lived through the bombing of 1993, 1163 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,450 which was actually Frank's entry into the whole realm 1164 00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:23,700 of the World Trade Center. 1165 00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:27,000 Frank kind of walked me through what that damage was 1166 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,830 and how robust the structure of the building was. 1167 00:52:30,830 --> 00:52:34,110 There were redundancies beyond belief. 1168 00:52:34,110 --> 00:52:36,120 He was a big fan of the History Channel 1169 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,170 and he said why hasn't there been a history 1170 00:52:38,170 --> 00:52:40,620 of the World Trade Center on the History Channel? 1171 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,190 That's gotta be something. 1172 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:45,910 So he, I can't remember the woman's name, 1173 00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:48,097 but he contacted this woman and they worked 1174 00:52:48,097 --> 00:52:50,320 and worked and worked and they finally produced it. 1175 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,960 - [Frank] The building probably could sustain 1176 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,960 multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure 1177 00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:03,640 is like the mosquito netting on your screen door. 1178 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,800 And the jet plane is just a pencil 1179 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,350 puncturing that screen netting. 1180 00:53:09,350 --> 00:53:10,183 - Wow. 1181 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,030 Good to hear his voice. 1182 00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:15,280 When he made that statement, 1183 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,660 he was working for Leslie E. Robertson, 1184 00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:21,210 one of the designers, one of the structural engineers 1185 00:53:21,210 --> 00:53:22,630 who designed that structure. 1186 00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:24,830 He had, believe me, Frank was as bad as me 1187 00:53:24,830 --> 00:53:27,670 when came to understanding how things work. 1188 00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:30,960 So, you know, I know he had many conversations 1189 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,010 with Leslie about how the building went together. 1190 00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:36,840 You know, how it was designed 1191 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,840 to withstand all manner of loads, of dynamic loads. 1192 00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:44,990 That's what they call a plane hitting the building, 1193 00:53:44,990 --> 00:53:46,540 or a wind hitting the building. 1194 00:53:48,173 --> 00:53:51,173 (children shouting) 1195 00:53:52,678 --> 00:53:56,182 - [Tara] My kids were asking me about 9/11 1196 00:53:56,182 --> 00:53:58,970 and it's really hard to talk about it and explain it. 1197 00:53:58,970 --> 00:54:01,870 And I was curious to what they'd pick up on, 1198 00:54:01,870 --> 00:54:04,593 you know, and is it a scary thing? 1199 00:54:05,650 --> 00:54:07,925 - I can't believe it's almost 20 years. 1200 00:54:07,925 --> 00:54:10,450 - I can't either. - It seems like yesterday. 1201 00:54:10,450 --> 00:54:13,260 I was not in a good place in my life. 1202 00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:15,360 I had spent some time with Frank 1203 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,863 and that was the good part. 1204 00:54:17,834 --> 00:54:21,210 I had lost my job and my marriage was not in a good place. 1205 00:54:21,210 --> 00:54:22,910 You know, I just things were... 1206 00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:24,260 I was down and out. 1207 00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:26,700 There was some excitement in my life, 1208 00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:28,710 and I was nervous because Frank and I 1209 00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:30,560 were about to go into business together. 1210 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,760 And it was funny because Frank, for the longest time, 1211 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,760 had tried to get me to help him 1212 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,300 get out of the World Trade Center. (laughs) 1213 00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:42,230 You know, my day to day life was, was going down 1214 00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:45,910 to this high rise in in Long Branch, New Jersey 1215 00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:47,900 and working on an apartment. 1216 00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:50,530 And, you know, Frank was going to work 1217 00:54:50,530 --> 00:54:51,440 at the Trade Center. 1218 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,780 You know, I was an early riser and I got up at six o'clock. 1219 00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:58,270 It was about a hour and a half, hour and 45 minute drive, 1220 00:54:58,270 --> 00:55:00,543 and as I came around the corner, 1221 00:55:02,223 --> 00:55:04,940 off of route 80 and onto I-95, 1222 00:55:04,940 --> 00:55:08,000 that's where the World Trade Center comes into view 1223 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,070 and the North Tower looked like a chimney. 1224 00:55:11,070 --> 00:55:14,460 So I dialed up Frank and it went to voicemail 1225 00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:16,070 and I dialed him again and it went to voicemail. 1226 00:55:16,070 --> 00:55:17,640 It just kept, I couldn't get him. 1227 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,220 - We were supposed to have dinner with Frank. 1228 00:55:19,220 --> 00:55:21,090 - I remember. - The three of us. 1229 00:55:21,090 --> 00:55:22,200 - Yeah. 1230 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,033 - We ere supposed to have dinner. 1231 00:55:23,033 --> 00:55:24,560 - Our father-daughter dinner was going to be 1232 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,940 our father-daughter-uncle dinner. (laughs) 1233 00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:27,773 I panicked. 1234 00:55:27,773 --> 00:55:31,750 I just continued south and went to Long Branch, 1235 00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:33,370 went to the job. 1236 00:55:33,370 --> 00:55:36,780 When they told me that the South tower had collapsed, 1237 00:55:36,780 --> 00:55:38,570 I was shocked. 1238 00:55:38,570 --> 00:55:40,390 I was like, that's impossible. 1239 00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:41,223 - [Man 1] Yeah. 1240 00:55:41,223 --> 00:55:42,989 - [Man 2] Get ready for the big one. 1241 00:55:42,989 --> 00:55:43,959 - [Man 1] The tower just collapsed. 1242 00:55:43,959 --> 00:55:44,982 - [Woman] The whole thing collapsed? 1243 00:55:44,982 --> 00:55:46,512 - [Man 3] Yeah, it's collapsed. 1244 00:55:46,512 --> 00:55:48,255 - [Woman] What do you mean the whole thing just collapsed? 1245 00:55:48,255 --> 00:55:49,473 - [Man 3] It collapsed, I'm watching it live. 1246 00:55:49,473 --> 00:55:52,313 - I didn't know what to think of it. I really didn't. 1247 00:55:53,406 --> 00:55:55,350 You know, we all went in, everybody went into shock. 1248 00:55:55,350 --> 00:55:58,080 It was just the most bizarre... 1249 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,780 I mean, it was, it was like an out-of-body experience. 1250 00:56:03,820 --> 00:56:06,470 I was just consumed with worry about Frank, you know? 1251 00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:08,320 And I didn't even think about Nicole. 1252 00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:11,795 (phone dialing) 1253 00:56:11,795 --> 00:56:14,230 - [Nicole] Hello, you've reach Nicole de Martini. 1254 00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:15,260 Please leave a message. 1255 00:56:15,260 --> 00:56:17,190 - Hi, Nicole. It's Bill. 1256 00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:19,360 Hey, listen, I'm up in Fort Greene Park 1257 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,220 trying to find Frank's bench and his trees, 1258 00:56:22,220 --> 00:56:25,100 and there's a bench nearby, but it's dedicated to people 1259 00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,150 who passed away from COVID-19. 1260 00:56:27,150 --> 00:56:28,730 Thanks, Nicole. 1261 00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:32,540 And he used to live right up the street at 11-A, 1262 00:56:32,540 --> 00:56:34,420 South Elliot Place. 1263 00:56:34,420 --> 00:56:37,200 But we planted trees just like these. 1264 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,990 They were just like these, you know, 1265 00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:40,390 because there was nothing left 1266 00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:43,480 of the people that perished, you know? 1267 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:48,390 I think Bobby McIlvaine, at least they got his body. 1268 00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:50,240 You know, he was one of the very few. 1269 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,410 Most people just disappeared. 1270 00:56:53,410 --> 00:56:55,500 From the Prison Ship Martyr's Monument, 1271 00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:57,550 when you stand at the base of the monument, 1272 00:56:57,550 --> 00:56:58,910 you can look out- (phone ringing) 1273 00:56:58,910 --> 00:56:59,743 There she is. 1274 00:57:02,140 --> 00:57:03,790 Hi, Nicole. 1275 00:57:03,790 --> 00:57:05,550 - [Nicole] Hi, Bill. How are you? 1276 00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:06,540 - I'm good. How are you? 1277 00:57:06,540 --> 00:57:07,650 - [Nicole] We didn't put in a bench. 1278 00:57:07,650 --> 00:57:10,120 They didn't allow us. They were very strict. 1279 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,700 They were like, you can't put in a bench. 1280 00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:14,840 - Do you remember exactly when that was 1281 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,190 that we did that planting for Frank's memorial? 1282 00:57:18,190 --> 00:57:19,560 - [Nicole] Maybe 2003. 1283 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,690 - That's what I'm thinking, the spring of '03. 1284 00:57:21,690 --> 00:57:23,500 - [Nicole] Big pine trees that 1285 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:26,320 are right next to the tennis court. 1286 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,336 - [Bill] Across the walk? 1287 00:57:28,336 --> 00:57:29,169 - [Nicole] Yeah. 1288 00:57:29,169 --> 00:57:30,002 - [Bill] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1289 00:57:30,002 --> 00:57:31,060 I see them now. - Yeah. 1290 00:57:31,060 --> 00:57:33,500 - [Bill] And they've planted some new, smaller ones now 1291 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:35,730 that have fences around them. - Yes, exactly, yes. 1292 00:57:35,730 --> 00:57:39,270 Yes, so there are a few more that were planted later. 1293 00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:42,820 Right after that, but they really take good care of them. 1294 00:57:42,820 --> 00:57:43,653 - Yeah. 1295 00:57:43,653 --> 00:57:45,520 This is for Frank, too. 1296 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,360 Wow. 1297 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,544 - [Nicole] Yeah, the crab apples were for Frank, too, but- 1298 00:57:48,544 --> 00:57:49,417 - [Bill] It's got some fruit on it. 1299 00:57:49,417 --> 00:57:50,650 - [Nicole] Say hi to Shelly. 1300 00:57:50,650 --> 00:57:51,483 - I will. 1301 00:57:51,483 --> 00:57:53,920 Well, we're here, and this is it. 1302 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,316 This crab apple is hers... 1303 00:57:56,316 --> 00:57:57,253 Or his. That pine is his. 1304 00:57:58,610 --> 00:58:01,956 And that spruce was one of them. 1305 00:58:01,956 --> 00:58:02,850 I mean, it's not everybody that can say 1306 00:58:02,850 --> 00:58:05,210 they got trees planted in one in New York City's 1307 00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:08,330 most famous parks in their honor. 1308 00:58:08,330 --> 00:58:10,740 The guy that Nina was trying to convince 1309 00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:12,900 at the parks department was very strict. 1310 00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:16,700 He said Frederick Law Olmsted never designed the park 1311 00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:19,660 to have benches all over the place (laughs) 1312 00:58:19,660 --> 00:58:21,150 and that doesn't make sense to me. 1313 00:58:21,150 --> 00:58:23,410 But anyway, it was the excuse that was given. 1314 00:58:23,410 --> 00:58:26,293 It's almost like the excuses that were given to, um, 1315 00:58:28,210 --> 00:58:32,580 to us as to what happened to those Towers. 1316 00:58:32,580 --> 00:58:33,990 Just excuses. 1317 00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:37,230 I didn't really start to think about the mechanics. 1318 00:58:37,230 --> 00:58:38,970 You know, here I am, the guy that likes 1319 00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:40,450 to know how things work. 1320 00:58:40,450 --> 00:58:44,200 I didn't really start to think about that for five years. 1321 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,133 Straight ahead. 1322 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,000 I'll never set foot in that Freedom Tower. 1323 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,433 That's not my cup of tea. 1324 00:58:52,060 --> 00:58:55,313 I call it the blood building. (chuckles) 1325 00:58:56,236 --> 00:58:58,710 A lot of people died to put that there. 1326 00:58:58,710 --> 00:59:00,290 Unnecessarily. 1327 00:59:00,290 --> 00:59:05,220 But I took my books, I took my toys, I took my tools, 1328 00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:08,450 I took my grandfather clock and I took my car and I left. 1329 00:59:08,450 --> 00:59:10,200 You know, I came up here. 1330 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,740 I put everything in storage 1331 00:59:11,740 --> 00:59:14,140 and I moved into this little cottage here 1332 00:59:14,140 --> 00:59:17,130 and didn't know what to do. 1333 00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:19,960 I didn't know what to do. 1334 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,720 And this is where, in this cottage, 1335 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:27,600 is where I found architects and engineers for 9/11 Truth. 1336 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,370 And I look at it as this is what I do for Frank. 1337 00:59:32,370 --> 00:59:33,930 This is what, not just for me. 1338 00:59:33,930 --> 00:59:36,420 I mean, it's a lot for me and Frank is gone 1339 00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:37,570 and nothing's going to bring him back. 1340 00:59:37,570 --> 00:59:40,040 He's history. 1341 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,550 You know, when those explosives tore that building apart, 1342 00:59:44,550 --> 00:59:46,490 it tore the people apart, too. 1343 00:59:46,490 --> 00:59:49,950 So the saving grace is that Frank didn't feel a thing. 1344 00:59:49,950 --> 00:59:51,663 You know, he just disappeared. 1345 00:59:52,635 --> 00:59:55,273 - Because so many people didn't get bodies, nothing. 1346 00:59:56,492 --> 00:59:58,360 And we actually got a full, not a full body, 1347 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,663 but we got a body to take home and bury. 1348 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,263 And we, you know, we're so grateful for that. 1349 01:00:07,830 --> 01:00:09,950 Hundreds of parts they would get from the body. 1350 01:00:09,950 --> 01:00:11,740 And they just said I don't want it anymore. 1351 01:00:11,740 --> 01:00:12,890 We can't take this anymore. 1352 01:00:12,890 --> 01:00:14,760 They would get, you know, every week they get a call, 1353 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:19,280 we found, you know, an elbow, we found a thumb or something. 1354 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,580 And we have a relatively sound body 1355 01:00:21,580 --> 01:00:23,760 that we got to take home, and that, 1356 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,110 you know went home and buried him in a week. 1357 01:00:26,110 --> 01:00:28,330 So it was Tuesday, a week after 9/11 we buried him, 1358 01:00:28,330 --> 01:00:30,380 or it might have been sometime that week. 1359 01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:33,211 Our dogs are buried out there 1360 01:00:33,211 --> 01:00:36,430 so I go to Bobby, put the flowers out there 1361 01:00:36,430 --> 01:00:39,923 and that's, I've been doing that for 20 years now. 1362 01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:48,720 Oh good, they just cut the place. 1363 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,810 - [Helen] They what? They, yeah. 1364 01:00:49,810 --> 01:00:51,163 I can tell, really. 1365 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,370 - Can you just move that? 1366 01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:56,820 - Hey, Bobby. 1367 01:00:56,820 --> 01:00:57,653 - [Bob] Look at that. 1368 01:00:57,653 --> 01:00:59,360 They cleaned it up for us around the edges. 1369 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,910 - [Helen] Yeah. Usually they leave the grass there. 1370 01:01:03,150 --> 01:01:05,070 He'd love the yellow and purple flowers. 1371 01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:06,390 - [Bob] Yeah. 1372 01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:07,575 All right, I'm going to go up 1373 01:01:07,575 --> 01:01:08,640 and clean the bench, all right? 1374 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,840 - I'm just going to sit. 1375 01:01:12,170 --> 01:01:14,630 - Not while I'm cleaning it. That's silly. 1376 01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:17,763 - Yes, I'm going to sit and just think about Bobby. 1377 01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:19,920 Clean away. 1378 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,227 - Just get this stuff out. 1379 01:01:24,460 --> 01:01:26,313 - [Helen] Where are those stones from? 1380 01:01:27,740 --> 01:01:31,790 - [Bob] Well mostly from Ground Zero and Japan, 1381 01:01:31,790 --> 01:01:34,160 but I've added stones. 1382 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,043 - [Helen] I know this didn't come from Japan. 1383 01:01:36,043 --> 01:01:38,640 We would've never been able to carry it. 1384 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:39,740 - We did two stone walks. 1385 01:01:39,740 --> 01:01:41,600 I think we did, no, maybe three stone walks. 1386 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,970 One in Korea, Nagasaki to Hiroshima. 1387 01:01:44,970 --> 01:01:47,090 We pushed a 2000 pound stone 1388 01:01:47,090 --> 01:01:50,190 and on the way, where it's talking about anti-war, 1389 01:01:50,190 --> 01:01:54,740 that 9/11 were not, we think war is the wrong decision. 1390 01:01:54,740 --> 01:01:57,597 The monks, the Buddhist monks, pushed with us. 1391 01:01:57,597 --> 01:01:58,623 And we're talking days at a time. 1392 01:01:58,623 --> 01:02:00,880 I mean, talking about how friendly 1393 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:01,790 you can get after days. 1394 01:02:01,790 --> 01:02:04,070 I mean, if I was a religious person, 1395 01:02:04,070 --> 01:02:05,620 I would become a monk tomorrow. 1396 01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:07,733 All right. 1397 01:02:07,733 --> 01:02:09,280 - [Helen] Now, can we sit for a minute? 1398 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,452 - Yeah, you can sit. - You're gonna stand? 1399 01:02:11,452 --> 01:02:12,285 - No. 1400 01:02:12,285 --> 01:02:15,460 Okay, we did it, Bobaloo. - It looks beautiful. 1401 01:02:15,460 --> 01:02:17,063 Look at the flowers. 1402 01:02:18,110 --> 01:02:20,920 It's like yesterday or a thousand miles back, 1403 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,160 a thousand years back. - Seems like a thousand years. 1404 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,210 - Yeah. 1405 01:02:24,210 --> 01:02:26,783 Sometimes it feels like yesterday afternoon. 1406 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,240 - What is not considered often 1407 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,980 is the other victims of 9/11, 1408 01:02:33,980 --> 01:02:38,840 like the 30,000 soldiers that were involved 1409 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,513 in the war since 9/11 who have killed themselves, 1410 01:02:42,691 --> 01:02:44,750 the 7,000 that have died, 1411 01:02:44,750 --> 01:02:48,690 and all the people that are handicapped and disabled, 1412 01:02:48,690 --> 01:02:50,440 as well as all the first responders 1413 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:51,940 that are getting sick and dying. 1414 01:02:51,940 --> 01:02:53,000 - [Jon] That's America's world. 1415 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,290 - [Bob] Well that's the answer. 1416 01:02:55,290 --> 01:02:56,810 - Well America has got to change. 1417 01:02:56,810 --> 01:02:57,990 America has got to grow up. 1418 01:02:57,990 --> 01:03:00,530 The people of America have got to grow up. 1419 01:03:00,530 --> 01:03:03,330 They've got to get out of this they would never mentality. 1420 01:03:03,330 --> 01:03:05,940 You know, if they would never, then, you know, 1421 01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:07,950 they would never lie about the environmental impact 1422 01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:10,420 of 9/11 causing upwards of 70,000 1423 01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:13,430 9/11 first responders to become sick and dying. 1424 01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:17,270 This government is more than capable of anything. 1425 01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:18,103 Anything. 1426 01:03:18,103 --> 01:03:19,840 - That's why I've gone in the history. 1427 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:20,673 History is so important to me 1428 01:03:20,673 --> 01:03:22,930 because we've been doing this bullshit forever. 1429 01:03:22,930 --> 01:03:25,110 - And you know, we're saying that we're leaving Afghanistan, 1430 01:03:25,110 --> 01:03:26,120 but how many mercenaries, 1431 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,110 how many thousands are we still leaving there? 1432 01:03:29,110 --> 01:03:31,750 You know, it's disgusting. 1433 01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:33,130 - And we've been dealing with these, 1434 01:03:33,130 --> 01:03:36,010 we've dealt with Bin Laden fro 20 years 1435 01:03:36,850 --> 01:03:37,870 and then suddenly he becomes, 1436 01:03:37,870 --> 01:03:41,690 in '98 becomes the boogeyman, the bad guy. 1437 01:03:41,690 --> 01:03:45,310 The people that were in Iran-Contra, Lee Hamilton, 1438 01:03:45,310 --> 01:03:49,170 in '92, '93 had hearings on it and he dismissed everything. 1439 01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:50,757 It got it off the books. 1440 01:03:50,757 --> 01:03:52,210 And guess what? 1441 01:03:52,210 --> 01:03:56,050 Who's leading the 9/11 Commission? Lee Hamilton. 1442 01:03:56,050 --> 01:03:58,910 So if you put all these together, you know, it's bad news. 1443 01:03:58,910 --> 01:03:59,887 It really is bad news 1444 01:03:59,887 --> 01:04:01,930 and it's a horrible, horrible cover up. 1445 01:04:01,930 --> 01:04:03,490 - That was presented to the world 1446 01:04:03,490 --> 01:04:05,880 as the definitive account of 9/11 . 1447 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,470 First of all, they only answered 30% of the family's 1448 01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:11,210 well-researched questions. 1449 01:04:11,210 --> 01:04:12,980 - There's so many things- - Of course. 1450 01:04:12,980 --> 01:04:15,647 - By choice, by design, and that keeps us 1451 01:04:15,647 --> 01:04:17,930 discussing back and forth, back and forth. 1452 01:04:17,930 --> 01:04:18,780 - Exactly. 1453 01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:20,740 Which is why I can't say definitively 1454 01:04:20,740 --> 01:04:22,870 that I know what happened on 9/11. 1455 01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:24,670 I couldn't tell you one way or the other 1456 01:04:24,670 --> 01:04:26,470 what happened to those buildings. 1457 01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:27,530 That is where the majority 1458 01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:29,720 of the people were murdered that day. 1459 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,390 There are family members that still question 1460 01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:33,770 how those buildings came down 1461 01:04:33,770 --> 01:04:36,570 and as long as it's an important question to them, 1462 01:04:36,570 --> 01:04:39,140 it will always be an important question to me. 1463 01:04:39,140 --> 01:04:43,860 - And I spent so much time talking about how he died 1464 01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:46,490 and the thing is I'm sick of getting emotional. 1465 01:04:46,490 --> 01:04:47,988 Okay, I really am. 1466 01:04:47,988 --> 01:04:50,240 And I, you know, I really want to talk about 1467 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,923 who helped kill Bobby. 1468 01:04:54,740 --> 01:04:56,440 We have enough for Jack? 1469 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,330 - Yeah. 1470 01:04:57,330 --> 01:05:00,150 I guess I could grab a Gerber Daisy out of there. 1471 01:05:00,150 --> 01:05:01,796 Okay, let's go. 1472 01:05:01,796 --> 01:05:02,629 - All right? - Yeah 1473 01:05:02,629 --> 01:05:03,462 - All right. 1474 01:05:03,462 --> 01:05:04,633 All right, Bobaloo. Love you. 1475 01:05:06,050 --> 01:05:06,950 See you next week. 1476 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,363 We went to a psychologist immediately. 1477 01:05:12,770 --> 01:05:14,100 He said, but look at it this way, 1478 01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:16,550 just put a silver dollar or a half dollar 1479 01:05:16,550 --> 01:05:18,453 in front of your eye like this. 1480 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,273 Okay? 1481 01:05:20,273 --> 01:05:22,270 And he says, you know, that's right there. 1482 01:05:22,270 --> 01:05:25,210 It's in your face and it's going to stay in your face. 1483 01:05:25,210 --> 01:05:28,360 But eventually it just starts moving away. 1484 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,150 And as that moves away, then you can see over here, 1485 01:05:31,150 --> 01:05:33,810 you can see over here, but it's still there, 1486 01:05:33,810 --> 01:05:35,470 but eventually it moves further out. 1487 01:05:35,470 --> 01:05:37,320 Then you can see this way, you can see this way, 1488 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,187 but it's still there. 1489 01:05:39,187 --> 01:05:42,160 And eventually it keeps moving out, and it's the truth. 1490 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,680 You know, we can laugh now, we have fun things, 1491 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,713 but it's always there. 1492 01:05:47,790 --> 01:05:48,790 - [Man] Gotta respond to West Street 1493 01:05:48,790 --> 01:05:51,061 because we've got some very burned bad, 1494 01:05:51,061 --> 01:05:54,049 badly burned victims in building one, the lobby. 1495 01:05:54,049 --> 01:05:54,882 - [Woman] At West Street? 1496 01:05:54,882 --> 01:05:55,820 - Yeah, West Street side. - Okay. 1497 01:05:55,820 --> 01:05:56,693 - [Man] All right, thank you. 1498 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,840 - Hopefully we just sort of drop out 1499 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,970 because I don't want to sit and argue with people. 1500 01:06:06,970 --> 01:06:09,363 I just think it speaks for itself. 1501 01:06:11,950 --> 01:06:14,920 You know, obviously we know he's dead, right? 1502 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,593 So, you know, I have this. 1503 01:06:19,550 --> 01:06:22,510 So a doctor confirming and not confirming it, you know, 1504 01:06:22,510 --> 01:06:23,970 it doesn't mean anything to me. 1505 01:06:23,970 --> 01:06:26,290 You know, a medical professional, 1506 01:06:26,290 --> 01:06:27,730 say you're a medical professional. 1507 01:06:27,730 --> 01:06:30,030 I come up to you and say, this is 9/11. 1508 01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:33,353 He's probably scared to death to say one thing or another. 1509 01:06:33,353 --> 01:06:36,020 (ominous music) 1510 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,990 - Cyril H. Wecht. 1511 01:06:42,990 --> 01:06:46,980 I am a forensic pathologist and a medical legal consultant. 1512 01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:49,950 I was the coroner of Allegheny County, Pittsburgh 1513 01:06:49,950 --> 01:06:53,750 and 129 surrounding municipalities for 20 years, 1514 01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:56,180 two separate 10 year periods. 1515 01:06:56,180 --> 01:06:59,270 Since 1957, I would estimate I have performed 1516 01:06:59,270 --> 01:07:01,480 about 21,000 autopsies. 1517 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,080 I have reviewed, signed off or supervised 1518 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,843 on about 41,000 other autopsies. 1519 01:07:06,843 --> 01:07:09,730 When I was asked to review the Warren Commission report, 1520 01:07:09,730 --> 01:07:12,590 it was in August of that year that I pointed out 1521 01:07:12,590 --> 01:07:14,720 that the president's brain was missing. 1522 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,160 Others knew about it, but no one had said a word. 1523 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,160 And so, anyway, so these are the things that I do, 1524 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,780 all of these consultations and these autopsies 1525 01:07:22,780 --> 01:07:24,490 and then occasionally, you know, 1526 01:07:24,490 --> 01:07:27,363 the major national controversial case. 1527 01:07:30,225 --> 01:07:32,410 (mumbling) 1528 01:07:32,410 --> 01:07:33,413 Abrasions. 1529 01:07:34,820 --> 01:07:37,840 Oh, much of the face is marked here as missing. 1530 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,130 They blocked everything, expect the lower face, 1531 01:07:40,130 --> 01:07:41,390 is blocked off. 1532 01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:44,460 Unfortunately they don't describe 1533 01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:48,760 the remaining portion of the skull 1534 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:53,240 to permit me to determine whether it looked like 1535 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,590 that which is missing had blown off 1536 01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:59,090 as opposed to having been crushed. 1537 01:07:59,090 --> 01:08:00,700 Most of head. Yeah, I'm right. 1538 01:08:00,700 --> 01:08:02,210 Absent, most of head. 1539 01:08:02,210 --> 01:08:05,340 So what is it that the father wants to know? 1540 01:08:05,340 --> 01:08:07,350 Okay. And the body was found when? 1541 01:08:07,350 --> 01:08:09,400 - [Man] He was found shortly after 1542 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,440 the North Tower was struck. 1543 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,560 - [Woman] And he was in front of, near the lobby. 1544 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,158 Like entering the lobby. 1545 01:08:16,158 --> 01:08:18,010 - Well then it had to be from some kind of 1546 01:08:18,010 --> 01:08:19,143 an explosive effect. 1547 01:08:22,790 --> 01:08:24,750 - Normally the way it works is 1548 01:08:24,750 --> 01:08:28,190 if you have a family member that's murdered, 1549 01:08:28,190 --> 01:08:31,430 you call the police and the police do an investigation 1550 01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:35,000 and you trust the authorities to be thorough, 1551 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,030 to care and to want to get to the truth. 1552 01:08:38,030 --> 01:08:40,383 And you don't have to go petition. 1553 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,680 It's not the proper role a citizen should have to take 1554 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,820 is to force the government to do an investigation, 1555 01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:50,473 but apparently that is what's required. 1556 01:08:56,132 --> 01:08:56,981 - [Bob] All right. 1557 01:08:56,981 --> 01:08:59,036 It's another day. 1558 01:08:59,036 --> 01:09:00,203 - Here, come. 1559 01:09:03,780 --> 01:09:06,130 We're at Point Mountain Reserve. 1560 01:09:06,130 --> 01:09:09,160 Every 9/11, I go for a hike to remember my mom. 1561 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,850 It's better for me, you know, 1562 01:09:10,850 --> 01:09:12,770 instead of going to a church or memorial. 1563 01:09:12,770 --> 01:09:15,000 You know, I just like to be by myself, 1564 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,470 you know, with the ones that I love 1565 01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:18,763 and that's how I deal with things. 1566 01:09:20,740 --> 01:09:23,000 I've been to the site a number of times 1567 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,420 but I've never been to the museum. 1568 01:09:24,420 --> 01:09:25,460 My sister invited me. 1569 01:09:25,460 --> 01:09:28,810 I really have no want or need to go there. 1570 01:09:28,810 --> 01:09:31,146 I find it probably mostly depressing. 1571 01:09:31,146 --> 01:09:34,140 She confirmed my suspicions. 1572 01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:35,280 She said it was great to do once, 1573 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,130 but probably would never do it again. 1574 01:09:38,210 --> 01:09:40,260 20 years is really just a number. 1575 01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:41,530 I know for most people who don't 1576 01:09:41,530 --> 01:09:44,800 deal with it every day, you know, 20 years is a big deal. 1577 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,023 But same thing year in, year out for me. 1578 01:09:49,270 --> 01:09:50,880 Having kids and not having 1579 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,310 my mom here has been pretty tough. 1580 01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:56,660 I just really wish my kids had a chance to meet her. 1581 01:09:56,660 --> 01:10:00,103 And there's not many people I feel that are willing to do 1582 01:10:00,103 --> 01:10:02,950 what I'm doing right now just to kind of 1583 01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:05,430 keep the victim's memories alive as well as, you know, 1584 01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:08,710 hopefully get down to the bottom of the things. 1585 01:10:08,710 --> 01:10:10,400 I think we need more sense of community in this country 1586 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,870 and I think 9/11 did that for a little bit 1587 01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:15,140 and then tapered off. 1588 01:10:15,140 --> 01:10:16,930 So as long as people start to think for themselves 1589 01:10:16,930 --> 01:10:21,610 and just, you know, hold the ones dear to them close 1590 01:10:21,610 --> 01:10:26,010 and just have fun and don't take themselves so seriously, 1591 01:10:26,010 --> 01:10:27,823 I think the world would be a better place. 1592 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,582 - We need to get some flowers in London. 1593 01:10:37,582 --> 01:10:39,045 - I've got them, yeah. - Have you got them with you? 1594 01:10:39,045 --> 01:10:40,701 - Everything ready, yes. - In that little bag? 1595 01:10:40,701 --> 01:10:41,534 - [Maureen] Yes. 1596 01:10:41,534 --> 01:10:45,451 (Maureen and Matt chattering) 1597 01:10:46,901 --> 01:10:49,810 - [Matt] You know, we take his random thought. 1598 01:10:49,810 --> 01:10:50,643 - [Maureen] Yes. 1599 01:10:50,643 --> 01:10:53,077 - [Matt] We call it 9/11. 1600 01:10:53,077 --> 01:10:54,455 - Yeah. - But you know, that's weird. 1601 01:10:54,455 --> 01:10:55,560 - I know, and in fact- 1602 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,060 - [Matt] But would you ever call it 11/9? 1603 01:10:57,060 --> 01:10:58,260 It just... 1604 01:10:58,260 --> 01:10:59,461 - [Maureen] No, no. 1605 01:10:59,461 --> 01:11:00,900 - Does it have a significance 20 years? 1606 01:11:00,900 --> 01:11:01,733 I mean, it's just one of those things, 1607 01:11:01,733 --> 01:11:04,870 it's like, so different to any anniversary. 1608 01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:07,206 It's kind of, you know. - Yes, of course. 1609 01:11:07,206 --> 01:11:08,680 - And for anything, it could be a wedding anniversary. 1610 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,230 It could be, you know, it's a strange thing to give. 1611 01:11:12,230 --> 01:11:14,470 Why does the 19th anniversary have 1612 01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:17,923 any less importance than than the 20th to nothing? 1613 01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:26,876 Uh, where's the queue? 1614 01:11:26,876 --> 01:11:29,468 Oh, there is no queue. 1615 01:11:29,468 --> 01:11:30,301 But it's not a grave or anything. 1616 01:11:30,301 --> 01:11:31,470 - [Maureen] No, but I wanted to say that after 1617 01:11:31,470 --> 01:11:35,000 coming for 15 years I stopped coming because... 1618 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,995 - Why did you stop coming? 1619 01:11:36,995 --> 01:11:37,828 - Because. 1620 01:11:37,828 --> 01:11:40,613 When I stopped going after, I suppose about 15 years 1621 01:11:40,613 --> 01:11:43,290 because I felt it difficult because so many people 1622 01:11:43,290 --> 01:11:46,140 have not had their loved ones identified 1623 01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:48,423 and we've had a number of things come over. 1624 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,810 - I remember the flurry of emails 1625 01:11:51,810 --> 01:11:52,820 and letters that were going around 1626 01:11:52,820 --> 01:11:56,830 when this was being proposed and designed. 1627 01:11:56,830 --> 01:11:58,703 - Every year, September 11th, 1628 01:11:58,703 --> 01:12:01,547 for the first 15 years, I used to come. 1629 01:12:01,547 --> 01:12:03,310 You had to arrange in advance 1630 01:12:03,310 --> 01:12:05,530 whether you wanted to read out a family member, 1631 01:12:05,530 --> 01:12:08,610 but you sometimes have to read a couple of other people 1632 01:12:08,610 --> 01:12:11,210 depending on how many came. 1633 01:12:11,210 --> 01:12:12,710 And that's really lovely. 1634 01:12:12,710 --> 01:12:13,543 - [Matt] Can you read that, mom? 1635 01:12:13,543 --> 01:12:17,010 - "Time is too slow for those who wait." 1636 01:12:17,010 --> 01:12:20,793 I'd like to lay our roses here if we could, yes? 1637 01:12:23,470 --> 01:12:24,780 Okay. - Put one down from Robin, 1638 01:12:24,780 --> 01:12:27,150 and then I'll do dad's and ours, yeah? 1639 01:12:27,150 --> 01:12:28,850 Yeah. - I can't quite reach it. 1640 01:12:28,850 --> 01:12:31,257 Can you, Matthew? - Oh, here. 1641 01:12:31,257 --> 01:12:33,960 - "Always I'll be in your heart. 1642 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,720 Don't forget my soul is near you 1643 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,360 and so we'll never be apart." 1644 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,610 And this is from your friends at Risk Waters, 1645 01:12:42,610 --> 01:12:43,550 which is rather poignant. 1646 01:12:43,550 --> 01:12:46,080 That's very worse on that fateful day. 1647 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,480 Keep that on my sideboard next to Geoff's picture. 1648 01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:53,460 Where is it there's supposed to be a remnant of... 1649 01:12:54,890 --> 01:12:56,250 Is it the metal? It's the metal, isn't it? 1650 01:12:56,250 --> 01:12:57,083 - Yeah, no. 1651 01:12:58,331 --> 01:12:59,650 So the Memorial stone is carved by hand 1652 01:12:59,650 --> 01:13:01,280 and includes an extract from the American poet, 1653 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,210 Henry Van Dyke, underneath it preserved in resin 1654 01:13:04,210 --> 01:13:07,105 lies a section of the steel girder salvaged from 1655 01:13:07,105 --> 01:13:08,040 the World Trade Center. - Salvaged, yes I knew it was. 1656 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,290 I thought it would be in that top part there. 1657 01:13:11,340 --> 01:13:14,129 - Pick it up and test it for explosive residues. 1658 01:13:14,129 --> 01:13:15,810 All right, mom, should we head out? 1659 01:13:15,810 --> 01:13:16,780 - I think so. 1660 01:13:16,780 --> 01:13:17,940 - Yeah? - I'll go get my bag. 1661 01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:20,150 - [Matt] Oh, it's in the walk about. 1662 01:13:20,150 --> 01:13:23,090 - With me, I mean, obviously I grieve my Geoff, 1663 01:13:23,090 --> 01:13:24,600 but I felt well, Geoff wouldn't want 1664 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,750 to see me in the corner crying all the time. 1665 01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:28,740 Yes, I just thought, well, 1666 01:13:28,740 --> 01:13:31,420 I want Geoff to see that I am going on with life 1667 01:13:31,420 --> 01:13:34,887 and I am continued to be the happy person I always was, 1668 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,030 a nan, you know, so that's what helped me through. 1669 01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:42,880 I know Matthew and Robert had a lot, a lot, 1670 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,609 a lot of struggles, but that's the way it is. 1671 01:13:46,609 --> 01:13:47,740 We're several individuals 1672 01:13:47,740 --> 01:13:50,100 and we deal with things differently. 1673 01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:55,100 - When it takes decades to get some semblance of justice, 1674 01:13:56,020 --> 01:14:00,100 it's always through the never-ending fights 1675 01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:03,740 that it just seems so wrong that family members 1676 01:14:03,740 --> 01:14:07,600 have to pursue in order to get some sort of justice. 1677 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,490 One of the things that I've always personally found 1678 01:14:10,490 --> 01:14:12,250 to be quite striking is the degree 1679 01:14:12,250 --> 01:14:15,063 of fragmentation of the remains. 1680 01:14:17,041 --> 01:14:18,727 - The title of this report is 1681 01:14:18,727 --> 01:14:20,890 "Human identification following 1682 01:14:20,890 --> 01:14:23,140 the World Trade Center disaster: 1683 01:14:23,140 --> 01:14:25,110 assessing management practices 1684 01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:29,120 for highly fragmented and commingled human remains." 1685 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,210 - So out of the 2,600 odd who died 1686 01:14:32,210 --> 01:14:33,600 at the World Trade Center, 1687 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,940 you know, there's 22,000 fragments. 1688 01:14:36,940 --> 01:14:39,860 - Medical examiner personnel were initially caught off guard 1689 01:14:39,860 --> 01:14:42,430 by the degree of destruction and fragmentation 1690 01:14:42,430 --> 01:14:44,190 of the recovered human remains. 1691 01:14:44,190 --> 01:14:47,150 - 5,00 of those 22,000 fragments 1692 01:14:47,150 --> 01:14:48,440 are smaller than an inch. 1693 01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:52,720 It's 1100 and something people have not been identified. 1694 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:57,270 That's a huge, you can't even fathom Geoff's remains, 1695 01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:59,170 no more than two, three-percent of his body, 1696 01:14:59,170 --> 01:15:03,370 it's actually the last remain identified in May 2013. 1697 01:15:03,370 --> 01:15:05,260 This fragment that's still in New York 1698 01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:06,940 was actually given a location. 1699 01:15:06,940 --> 01:15:08,620 It's just south of the North Tower. 1700 01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:13,360 It's between 18 and 41 meters away from the South Tower. 1701 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,500 Okay, it's not the kind of two or 300 meters distance 1702 01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:17,420 that some remains were found. 1703 01:15:17,420 --> 01:15:20,640 There's a horrendous map that I think 1704 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,300 the fire brigade prepared and they, you know, 1705 01:15:23,300 --> 01:15:25,610 they'd tag whether it's a civilian, firefighter, et cetera, 1706 01:15:25,610 --> 01:15:29,060 but there is one that just tags human remains 1707 01:15:29,060 --> 01:15:30,160 and it's awful. 1708 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,020 You've got the two footprints of the Towers 1709 01:15:32,020 --> 01:15:36,993 and there's just this huge spread of remains 1710 01:15:36,993 --> 01:15:38,340 that were once people. 1711 01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:40,710 Okay, well we know the steel beams were propelled out 1712 01:15:40,710 --> 01:15:43,403 with huge forces, but the actual physical stuff 1713 01:15:43,403 --> 01:15:46,790 that I care about, people and my brother, 1714 01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:50,140 were ejected outside of the footprints. 1715 01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:52,610 And it's just, it's so unpleasant thinking about it, 1716 01:15:52,610 --> 01:15:54,900 but I've since read a lot that has been published 1717 01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:57,210 about the search to try and identify people 1718 01:15:57,210 --> 01:15:59,810 is this concept of commingling. 1719 01:15:59,810 --> 01:16:03,200 - The explosive force that blew over firetrucks 1720 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,640 and peeled stone facades from buildings 1721 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,950 also disintegrated human bodies, 1722 01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:11,110 turning bones into flying shrapnel. 1723 01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:14,160 The tidal wave of debris that carried human remains 1724 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,300 blocks away, depositing them, 1725 01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:18,810 in some cases on top of buildings, 1726 01:16:18,810 --> 01:16:23,310 also fused soft tissue into bone fragments. 1727 01:16:23,310 --> 01:16:26,056 - And that basically means the impact 1728 01:16:26,056 --> 01:16:28,120 of the force of the explosion, 1729 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,320 you know, not just the pancake collapse, whatever, 1730 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,720 has actually mingled remains into my brother. 1731 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,900 And so the only explanation she could give me was 1732 01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:40,770 they couldn't get a clear single DNA match 1733 01:16:40,770 --> 01:16:42,640 in those remains so I just got this horrible vision 1734 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,350 of other people's remains being removed 1735 01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:47,531 from my brother's face. 1736 01:16:47,531 --> 01:16:48,810 It was just, yeah. 1737 01:16:48,810 --> 01:16:51,710 - That's not going to happen from crushing. 1738 01:16:51,710 --> 01:16:56,520 A building collapses and two or more people are crushed. 1739 01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,100 I can't envision a situation in which the soft tissue 1740 01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:03,610 of one victim is hurled with such force 1741 01:17:03,610 --> 01:17:05,670 as to become embedded into, 1742 01:17:05,670 --> 01:17:08,500 attached to a bony fragment of another victim. 1743 01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:10,510 I can't envision that. 1744 01:17:10,510 --> 01:17:13,020 - And one of the things I've always pondered about is, 1745 01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:15,950 you know, okay, there's all massive degree of fragmentation. 1746 01:17:15,950 --> 01:17:17,700 Some people, nothing found at all, 1747 01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:21,690 but you also had fairly large parts of people being found. 1748 01:17:21,690 --> 01:17:22,930 I mean, there was one guy at the inquest, 1749 01:17:22,930 --> 01:17:26,880 same floor as my brother, 86% of his body was found. 1750 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,000 I am not going to say it was, but you know, 1751 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,793 he was one of the, in fact, two family members 1752 01:17:30,793 --> 01:17:32,230 that actually bothered attending. 1753 01:17:32,230 --> 01:17:33,220 I mean, there you go. 1754 01:17:33,220 --> 01:17:36,560 But he's just there going, I don't, I don't understand why, 1755 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,580 because everyone kept being read out, you know, 1756 01:17:38,580 --> 01:17:40,770 small fragments, all this two percent, 1757 01:17:40,770 --> 01:17:42,960 and he's sitting there going how? 1758 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,180 And then for me, you know, 1759 01:17:44,180 --> 01:17:46,260 the unpleasant conclusion I've drawn 1760 01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:47,850 is his proximity to explosives 1761 01:17:47,850 --> 01:17:50,803 so if you were very close to the explosives, 1762 01:17:51,789 --> 01:17:53,220 there's not a lot left of you. 1763 01:17:53,220 --> 01:17:56,247 That's something I've always thought about, 1764 01:17:56,247 --> 01:18:00,190 but that's quite a dark topic to kind of touch on 1765 01:18:00,190 --> 01:18:01,593 or thought to have, even. 1766 01:18:03,370 --> 01:18:05,780 - This is a strange situation. 1767 01:18:05,780 --> 01:18:09,090 I hope that the architects and engineers 1768 01:18:09,090 --> 01:18:14,090 and others who have studied this horrible tragedy 1769 01:18:15,230 --> 01:18:17,540 and who have expressed their opinions 1770 01:18:17,540 --> 01:18:22,540 will be given the opportunity to testify in public. 1771 01:18:23,390 --> 01:18:25,410 I hope that happens and I'm amazed 1772 01:18:25,410 --> 01:18:27,423 that it has not yet happened. 1773 01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:32,180 - I've been holding a vision in my head 1774 01:18:32,180 --> 01:18:35,550 of standing outside this building 1775 01:18:35,550 --> 01:18:37,850 after successfully getting the authority 1776 01:18:37,850 --> 01:18:39,500 from the attorney general. 1777 01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:41,090 It's that it's not the coroner's court, 1778 01:18:41,090 --> 01:18:44,550 but it's that important step after the attorney general. 1779 01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:46,190 You know, exciting is the wrong word, but it's like, 1780 01:18:46,190 --> 01:18:48,660 you know, we're actually at this point right now 1781 01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:53,200 where I know that, you know, myself and mom 1782 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,910 and hopefully dad and Rob will be going up to London 1783 01:18:56,910 --> 01:19:00,643 and actually submitting this to the attorney general. 1784 01:19:01,841 --> 01:19:04,424 (gentle music) 1785 01:19:08,681 --> 01:19:10,065 - Do you want to wear your hat now, love? 1786 01:19:10,065 --> 01:19:10,961 - No. 1787 01:19:10,961 --> 01:19:12,430 - You do. (laughing) 1788 01:19:12,430 --> 01:19:13,633 - [Robert] Are you going to wear a hat? 1789 01:19:13,633 --> 01:19:16,050 - [Matt] Only for the photo. 1790 01:19:18,073 --> 01:19:18,906 - [Robert] You want me to sit, 1791 01:19:18,906 --> 01:19:21,078 or are you sitting there, mom? 1792 01:19:21,078 --> 01:19:23,400 - Let's assume that the attorney general 1793 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:24,493 grants his authority. 1794 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,260 An order will go to the high court 1795 01:19:27,260 --> 01:19:30,920 to quash the provincial inquest and to open a new one. 1796 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,720 The high court typically sides with what 1797 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,880 the attorney general has decided. 1798 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,570 So, you know, we're hopeful 1799 01:19:38,570 --> 01:19:40,710 that once the attorney general says yes, 1800 01:19:40,710 --> 01:19:41,910 grants his authority, 1801 01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:45,190 it should be a formality for the case to be pushed 1802 01:19:45,190 --> 01:19:47,650 to the West London coroner's court. 1803 01:19:47,650 --> 01:19:49,550 And I think the question then would be 1804 01:19:49,550 --> 01:19:52,620 after the courts trial, the court case, 1805 01:19:52,620 --> 01:19:54,080 how I feel then, and, you know, 1806 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,110 it's been hard, hard work over a year 1807 01:19:56,110 --> 01:19:59,330 to get everything together to actually come to this day. 1808 01:19:59,330 --> 01:20:01,714 A couple of weeks before the 20th anniversary, 1809 01:20:01,714 --> 01:20:03,851 you know, it's a massive achievement. 1810 01:20:03,851 --> 01:20:06,123 I went to the Reinvestigate 9/11 meeting 1811 01:20:06,123 --> 01:20:07,450 that was being held in London 1812 01:20:07,450 --> 01:20:09,350 and it was the first time I was actually interacting 1813 01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:12,990 and actually seeing people who, you know, were like me. 1814 01:20:12,990 --> 01:20:14,960 Didn't believe the official narrative 1815 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:16,220 of what we've been told. 1816 01:20:16,220 --> 01:20:18,220 So, yeah, I mean, 'cause in the early days 1817 01:20:18,220 --> 01:20:21,233 it was really just me. - Well of course, yes. 1818 01:20:21,233 --> 01:20:23,480 - I started going slightly insane 1819 01:20:23,480 --> 01:20:24,670 in the early years, you know. 1820 01:20:24,670 --> 01:20:28,770 I was still dealing with depression and you know, 1821 01:20:28,770 --> 01:20:31,230 I basically had a huge eureka. 1822 01:20:31,230 --> 01:20:36,230 I just felt I was able to actually go public properly 1823 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,160 and you know, I guess talk about stuff. 1824 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,380 And I was kind of inspired by the speakers 1825 01:20:40,380 --> 01:20:41,267 that were at Reinvestigate 9/11 1826 01:20:41,267 --> 01:20:43,320 and I thought, well, I can surely do something 1827 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,450 because I'm a family member and you know I lost someone. 1828 01:20:45,450 --> 01:20:50,050 I think that all of us together as applicants, 1829 01:20:50,050 --> 01:20:53,183 it helps the case, I guess, to a certain extent. 1830 01:20:58,150 --> 01:20:59,557 All right, we want to go to 54 Douty Street. 1831 01:21:01,028 --> 01:21:02,945 - Douty? - Douty Street. 1832 01:21:04,551 --> 01:21:05,898 - And Evie Devie, that's Henry. 1833 01:21:05,898 --> 01:21:07,749 - Hi. Hug, hug? 1834 01:21:07,749 --> 01:21:08,740 The place is like a ghost town. 1835 01:21:08,740 --> 01:21:09,977 I mean, it goes all the way back 1836 01:21:09,977 --> 01:21:11,776 and have a lot of space so if you want 1837 01:21:11,776 --> 01:21:12,940 to get a meeting room there, I'm sure. 1838 01:21:12,940 --> 01:21:15,670 - We're waiting for Ian Henshall to turn up. 1839 01:21:15,670 --> 01:21:17,080 - You know, you can't predict the future, 1840 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,960 but this could be the moment that changed everything. 1841 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,620 You know, I'm not 100% optimistic about that, 1842 01:21:22,620 --> 01:21:23,630 but it could be. 1843 01:21:23,630 --> 01:21:26,510 If you don't even try, then you've lost to start with, 1844 01:21:26,510 --> 01:21:28,930 and how much Matt's tried, 1845 01:21:28,930 --> 01:21:31,800 I mean, this is just like Matt's day today. 1846 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:32,970 - Well, today's the culmination 1847 01:21:32,970 --> 01:21:35,920 of a lot of hard work by a lot of people. 1848 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,150 Where it goes beyond here, who's to say, 1849 01:21:38,150 --> 01:21:41,120 we'll find out, I guess, in probably a few months. 1850 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,630 - In this box, we have just shy of 3000 pages. 1851 01:21:44,630 --> 01:21:47,800 This is a cover letter to the attorney general. 1852 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,050 Eye witness statements from first responders 1853 01:21:50,050 --> 01:21:52,630 who were there when, you know, the three towers collapsed. 1854 01:21:52,630 --> 01:21:54,280 You know, these first responders who are willing 1855 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,780 to support our application, but also in court, 1856 01:21:57,780 --> 01:22:00,910 they're prepared to be cross-examined as witnesses. 1857 01:22:00,910 --> 01:22:03,400 Yeah, I'm hopeful that we can actually change 1858 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,193 the verdicts of what caused my brother's death, 1859 01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:10,560 that it was explosives that ultimately killed him. 1860 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,560 If the senior coroner, at the Westland coroner's court 1861 01:22:16,330 --> 01:22:21,330 looks at our application, decides it has enough merit 1862 01:22:22,736 --> 01:22:24,570 to reopen my brother's inquest, 1863 01:22:24,570 --> 01:22:26,210 he can sign that consent order 1864 01:22:26,210 --> 01:22:28,590 and it will speed things up tremendously. 1865 01:22:28,590 --> 01:22:31,070 And, you know, we could be talking months 1866 01:22:31,070 --> 01:22:34,823 instead of years to actually get this stuff into court. 1867 01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:39,520 When I looked at Geoff's remains, you know, for me, 1868 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:40,633 I wasn't really looking at my brother. 1869 01:22:40,633 --> 01:22:43,010 I mean, for me, the physical form, 1870 01:22:43,010 --> 01:22:45,940 the 3D form of Geoff is gone. 1871 01:22:45,940 --> 01:22:48,100 That doesn't mean he's not, you know, 1872 01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:51,190 in the stardust and around us all the time, you know? 1873 01:22:51,190 --> 01:22:54,740 - Yes, well, this is one of my favorite photos of Geoff. 1874 01:22:54,740 --> 01:22:58,180 If you can see here that he's got his blue spotty tie 1875 01:22:58,180 --> 01:22:59,980 and after Geoff had died, 1876 01:22:59,980 --> 01:23:03,790 we went back to the flat and I asked Caroline 1877 01:23:03,790 --> 01:23:06,410 I'd love to take something back of Geoff's 1878 01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:11,350 and I asked if I could have his spotty tie. 1879 01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:13,050 He called it his lucky tie. 1880 01:23:13,050 --> 01:23:15,500 I like to think of happy thoughts of Geoff. 1881 01:23:15,500 --> 01:23:19,630 I know there's a lot of sadness and that, but yes, 1882 01:23:19,630 --> 01:23:24,150 I like to go forward thinking it could make a difference. 1883 01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:26,290 He worked in London. 1884 01:23:26,290 --> 01:23:27,820 I think it was the Abbey National, 1885 01:23:27,820 --> 01:23:31,160 and it was the time when there were bomb scares going off. 1886 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,770 And in fact at Barclaycard we had various drills 1887 01:23:33,770 --> 01:23:34,840 and things like that. 1888 01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,640 And he said to me, do you know, mom, 1889 01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,330 you can just be in the wrong place at the wrong time. 1890 01:23:41,330 --> 01:23:44,290 Always thought of Maureen and the three boys, 1891 01:23:44,290 --> 01:23:47,830 and in fact, I've been given a lovely bracelet 1892 01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:50,610 from Matthew and Mel with the three signs, 1893 01:23:50,610 --> 01:23:52,460 the three stones from the three boys. 1894 01:23:52,460 --> 01:23:55,860 And if anyone asked me how many children you've got, 1895 01:23:55,860 --> 01:24:00,113 I always say three. (film reel rolling) 1896 01:24:02,890 --> 01:24:04,330 I think you should be proud 1897 01:24:04,330 --> 01:24:06,580 of all your efforts and Geoff. 1898 01:24:06,580 --> 01:24:07,413 - Yeah. - I hope so. 1899 01:24:07,413 --> 01:24:10,633 - I'm sure dad is, too, in his own way. 1900 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:13,343 - So I have hope. 1901 01:24:14,290 --> 01:24:17,370 I think at this stage, it's too premature 1902 01:24:17,370 --> 01:24:19,530 for me to be thinking too far in the future. 1903 01:24:19,530 --> 01:24:22,940 You know, the application has been submitted, 1904 01:24:22,940 --> 01:24:25,120 where it leads after that, I don't know, 1905 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,380 but I'm just pleased we're here, 1906 01:24:27,380 --> 01:24:31,330 it's submitted and we'll see what the future brings. 1907 01:24:31,330 --> 01:24:33,382 My wife's always said she sees me, 1908 01:24:33,382 --> 01:24:36,300 you know, has visions of me outside the high court 1909 01:24:36,300 --> 01:24:37,930 and we've, you know, we've got it there. 1910 01:24:37,930 --> 01:24:39,050 She can't really see further than that, 1911 01:24:39,050 --> 01:24:40,310 but she just has this vision. 1912 01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:41,550 She likes me wearing a shirt occasionally, 1913 01:24:41,550 --> 01:24:42,800 which I've done today. 1914 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,443 You know, she just she sees me outside the court. 1915 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:49,520 You know? 1916 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:50,720 Am I going to get a haircut? 1917 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,890 Um, no, I'm going to keep my hair. It's growing on me. 1918 01:24:53,890 --> 01:24:56,530 Be fun just to annoy mom, you know. 1919 01:24:56,530 --> 01:24:59,360 She prefers me wearing a hat these days, 1920 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:00,510 but no, I like my hair. 1921 01:25:01,665 --> 01:25:03,990 It's still that a little bit towards the system 1922 01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:06,960 and my frustration, but now it's growing on me. 1923 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,010 I'm going to keep it. 1924 01:25:13,780 --> 01:25:14,700 - How should I put this? 1925 01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:17,690 Yeah, of course governments lie. It's their job. 1926 01:25:17,690 --> 01:25:21,113 But it makes you very cynical about the world. 1927 01:25:22,660 --> 01:25:24,950 In my view, quite rightly so. 1928 01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:26,580 - Our country took the wrong tact. 1929 01:25:26,580 --> 01:25:29,250 They didn't investigate 9/11 thoroughly 1930 01:25:29,250 --> 01:25:32,830 and I think it's caused us to live in fear 1931 01:25:32,830 --> 01:25:35,760 of something that we didn't fully understand. 1932 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:36,850 - I can't remember who said it. 1933 01:25:36,850 --> 01:25:38,803 Somebody said, you know, World War III 1934 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:45,320 will be fought with the most incredible technology, 1935 01:25:45,670 --> 01:25:47,810 with the most incredible weapons of war 1936 01:25:47,810 --> 01:25:50,933 and World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. 1937 01:25:52,530 --> 01:25:54,260 And I believe it. 1938 01:25:54,260 --> 01:25:58,070 - Thomas Merton had a phrase that he coined 1939 01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:59,670 called the unspeakable. 1940 01:25:59,670 --> 01:26:03,530 Evil so awful and almost unimaginable 1941 01:26:03,530 --> 01:26:07,350 that it defied the ability of words to capture it. 1942 01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:10,050 It's a void that exists 1943 01:26:10,050 --> 01:26:14,163 even before uttering the unspeakable. 1944 01:26:15,030 --> 01:26:19,213 Well, the void would be not talking about 9/11. 1945 01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:23,780 That if we don't deal with it, then we can't correct it. 1946 01:26:23,780 --> 01:26:26,550 The story can only last so long, 1947 01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:30,050 however enduring the seams, 1948 01:26:30,050 --> 01:26:34,701 that lies always need protecting, the truth doesn't. 1949 01:26:34,701 --> 01:26:37,097 ♪ When the dust settled, the glass and the metal ♪ 1950 01:26:37,097 --> 01:26:39,377 ♪ Lives devastated, the screams still echo ♪ 1951 01:26:39,377 --> 01:26:41,380 ♪ Every mind in America engulfed in fear ♪ 1952 01:26:41,380 --> 01:26:42,598 - Let me start again. Right? 1953 01:26:42,598 --> 01:26:43,690 God, this is like fucking outtakes. 1954 01:26:43,690 --> 01:26:44,583 Ridiculous, right? 1955 01:26:44,583 --> 01:26:46,862 ♪ When the dust settled, the glass and the metal ♪ 1956 01:26:46,862 --> 01:26:49,172 ♪ Lives devastated, the screams still echo ♪ 1957 01:26:49,172 --> 01:26:51,706 ♪ Every mind in America engulfed in fear ♪ 1958 01:26:51,706 --> 01:26:54,200 ♪ Welcome to the Aftermath the Future's here ♪ 1959 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,486 ♪ It was a September morning when everything changed ♪ 1960 01:26:56,486 --> 01:26:58,790 ♪ Ashes rained from the towers, Pentagon in flames ♪ 1961 01:26:58,790 --> 01:27:01,584 ♪ Lives gone in a flash, loved ones and strangers ♪ 1962 01:27:01,584 --> 01:27:03,878 ♪ The fear of a boogie man, a new world danger ♪ 1963 01:27:03,878 --> 01:27:06,494 ♪ They sold us safety, lied us into a war ♪ 1964 01:27:06,494 --> 01:27:08,886 ♪ Spy on your neighbors and lock your door ♪ 1965 01:27:08,886 --> 01:27:11,158 ♪ It was written, did PNAC have a plan for us ♪ 1966 01:27:11,158 --> 01:27:13,804 ♪ Liars in the White House, who can you trust ♪ 1967 01:27:13,804 --> 01:27:16,365 ♪ Evidence gone missing, bones and steel ♪ 1968 01:27:16,365 --> 01:27:18,732 ♪ Families want answers, the truth will heal ♪ 1969 01:27:18,732 --> 01:27:21,157 ♪ So much dis-info and outright lies ♪ 1970 01:27:21,157 --> 01:27:23,706 ♪ Two decades later and we ask why ♪ 1971 01:27:23,706 --> 01:27:26,133 ♪ Why was tower seven left from the report ♪ 1972 01:27:26,133 --> 01:27:28,580 ♪ Why despite all the evidence is science ignored ♪ 1973 01:27:28,580 --> 01:27:31,059 ♪ We insist NIST purposely skewed the facts ♪ 1974 01:27:31,059 --> 01:27:33,582 ♪ Smelling like of a cover-up, a treasonous act ♪ 1975 01:27:33,582 --> 01:27:35,030 ♪ Unspeakable ♪ 1976 01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:36,358 ♪ The lies and deception ♪ 1977 01:27:36,358 --> 01:27:37,406 ♪ Why are they neglecting ♪ 1978 01:27:37,406 --> 01:27:39,901 ♪ The Truth is in question ♪ 1979 01:27:39,901 --> 01:27:41,057 ♪ The lies and deception ♪ 1980 01:27:41,057 --> 01:27:42,332 ♪ Why are they neglecting ♪ 1981 01:27:42,332 --> 01:27:44,803 ♪ The Truth is in question ♪ 1982 01:27:44,803 --> 01:27:46,091 ♪ The lies and deception ♪ 1983 01:27:46,091 --> 01:27:47,307 ♪ Why are they neglecting ♪ 1984 01:27:47,307 --> 01:27:49,745 ♪ The Truth is in question ♪ 1985 01:27:49,745 --> 01:27:50,901 ♪ The lies and deception ♪ 1986 01:27:50,901 --> 01:27:52,132 ♪ Why are they neglecting ♪ 1987 01:27:52,132 --> 01:27:53,419 ♪ The Truth is in question ♪ 1988 01:27:53,419 --> 01:27:55,747 ♪ Unspeakable ♪ 1989 01:27:55,747 --> 01:27:57,977 - Do you mind us being... 1990 01:27:57,977 --> 01:28:00,680 You know, quite frankly, emotional. 1991 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:01,590 - It's great to feel peaceful. 1992 01:28:01,590 --> 01:28:02,910 Everyone just wants to feel peaceful, 1993 01:28:02,910 --> 01:28:04,980 but I can't do it anymore, but I'm able to balance it. 1994 01:28:04,980 --> 01:28:06,290 I'm angry. I'm always angry. 1995 01:28:06,290 --> 01:28:07,750 I'm angry at this country. 1996 01:28:07,750 --> 01:28:09,853 - I just want to try to do the right thing. 1997 01:28:11,660 --> 01:28:13,464 That's all I would say. 1998 01:28:13,464 --> 01:28:15,778 ♪ 20 years later do you feel safer ♪ 1999 01:28:15,778 --> 01:28:18,210 ♪ Old towers gone, new skyscrapers ♪ 2000 01:28:18,210 --> 01:28:20,594 ♪ Homeland security, The Patriot Act ♪ 2001 01:28:20,594 --> 01:28:23,058 ♪ Soldiers sent to war some not making it back ♪ 2002 01:28:23,058 --> 01:28:25,707 ♪ Wasn't bout Bin Laden or keepin' us safe ♪ 2003 01:28:25,707 --> 01:28:28,154 ♪ Money, power, and oil, leading the chase ♪ 2004 01:28:28,154 --> 01:28:30,448 ♪ Color-coded warnings keeping us awake ♪ 2005 01:28:30,448 --> 01:28:34,146 ♪ 24/7 news cycle making us hate ♪ 2006 01:28:34,146 --> 01:28:35,503 ♪ Became us against them ♪ 2007 01:28:35,503 --> 01:28:38,170 ♪ Every Muslim suspect as trust runs thin ♪ 2008 01:28:38,170 --> 01:28:40,426 ♪ NSA spying on us, this just in ♪ 2009 01:28:40,426 --> 01:28:44,282 ♪ Any freedoms you have, yeah, that must end ♪ 2010 01:28:44,282 --> 01:28:45,506 ♪ It's the new norm ♪ 2011 01:28:45,506 --> 01:28:48,130 ♪ Panic on the dance floor, the barrel's still warm ♪ 2012 01:28:48,130 --> 01:28:50,280 ♪ Terrorist threats streaming loud from the horn ♪ 2013 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,745 ♪ So stressed out we didn't have time to mourn ♪ 2014 01:28:52,745 --> 01:28:53,994 ♪ Unspeakable ♪ 2015 01:28:53,994 --> 01:28:55,394 ♪ The lies and deception ♪ 2016 01:28:55,394 --> 01:28:56,577 ♪ Why are the neglecting ♪ 2017 01:28:56,577 --> 01:28:59,074 ♪ The Truth is in question ♪ 2018 01:28:59,074 --> 01:29:00,258 ♪ The lies and deception ♪ 2019 01:29:00,258 --> 01:29:01,442 ♪ Why are they neglecting ♪ 2020 01:29:01,442 --> 01:29:03,913 ♪ The Truth is in question ♪ 2021 01:29:03,913 --> 01:29:05,178 ♪ The lies and deception ♪ 2022 01:29:05,178 --> 01:29:06,402 ♪ Why are they neglecting ♪ 2023 01:29:06,402 --> 01:29:08,802 ♪ The Truth is in question ♪ 2024 01:29:08,802 --> 01:29:10,154 ♪ The lies and deception ♪ 2025 01:29:10,154 --> 01:29:11,378 ♪ Why are they neglecting ♪ 2026 01:29:11,378 --> 01:29:12,848 ♪ The Truth is in question ♪ 2027 01:29:12,848 --> 01:29:16,090 ♪ Unspeakable ♪ 2028 01:29:16,090 --> 01:29:19,510 - Never really exposed my feelings 2029 01:29:19,510 --> 01:29:22,093 publicly like this in this venue, 2030 01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:25,830 but I'm doing it because... 2031 01:29:28,270 --> 01:29:29,103 I want to.