1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:21,060 --> 00:00:24,000 VINCE CARTER (VOICEOVER): I consider dunking an art form. 4 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:27,160 We're creating our masterpiece as we soar through the air. 5 00:00:27,190 --> 00:00:29,120 That's called art. 6 00:00:29,150 --> 00:00:32,040 I wanted to show that I was a showman, 7 00:00:32,070 --> 00:00:34,010 and I was an entertainer. 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,040 Vince could just imagine himself 9 00:00:36,070 --> 00:00:39,050 doing something with a basketball, 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,230 and then he could go do it. 11 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:42,170 VINCE CARTER (VOICEOVER): And that's where I've been for 22 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,100 years in the same mentality. 13 00:00:44,130 --> 00:00:48,090 To play as many years, you have to grow as a player, 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,100 improve as a player. 15 00:00:50,130 --> 00:00:51,210 That's not easy. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,190 For him to maintain his excellence for this long 17 00:00:54,220 --> 00:00:56,110 is incredible. 18 00:00:56,140 --> 00:01:00,020 He will stand alone in a really unique place, because he 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,190 just kind of took his own path and evolved 20 00:01:02,220 --> 00:01:04,060 into this amazing story. 21 00:01:04,090 --> 00:01:05,190 Here's how you know what a big deal 22 00:01:05,220 --> 00:01:07,060 it is that Vince was able to do it 23 00:01:07,090 --> 00:01:08,140 and you know how hard it is-- 24 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:10,070 because no one else could. 25 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:11,230 That's how you know, right? 26 00:01:12,020 --> 00:01:14,050 If it was easy, everybody would do it. 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,000 If it was easy, anybody else would have done it. 28 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:17,190 Guess what? 29 00:01:17,220 --> 00:01:19,120 No one ever has. 30 00:01:19,150 --> 00:01:23,010 That tells you how important Vince Carter was to the game, 31 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,090 and that this moment must be respected. 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,080 [cheers] 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,050 VINCE CARTER: I always talk about the 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,210 ending and trying to see what does the ending look like. 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:40,230 What does it look like? 36 00:01:41,020 --> 00:01:42,070 What does it feel like? 37 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:44,040 How do I handle it? 38 00:01:44,070 --> 00:01:48,100 I make this now, at this age, my time. 39 00:01:48,130 --> 00:01:49,160 And then once I get to the arena, 40 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:51,090 just kind of goes from that me time 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:57,110 to work time and just focusing on preparation for the game. 42 00:01:57,140 --> 00:02:00,200 Because, like I say, it takes me longer to get ready 43 00:02:00,230 --> 00:02:03,110 than any of the other guys. 44 00:02:03,140 --> 00:02:04,070 What's up, man? 45 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:04,210 You good? 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:05,130 All right. 47 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,230 All right. 48 00:02:07,020 --> 00:02:08,230 VINCE CARTER: I value these rides to the arena 49 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:10,170 now this year more than ever, because, 50 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,000 like I said, from here on out-- 51 00:02:13,030 --> 00:02:16,060 [chuckles] --it won't be a ride to the arena to get 52 00:02:16,090 --> 00:02:17,120 ready for a basketball game. 53 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:24,200 Now it turns to work mode. 54 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,070 DOMINIQUE WILKINS: The most difficult thing was 55 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:33,170 believing that it's at the end. 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,090 And that it's time. 57 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,230 Good. 58 00:02:37,020 --> 00:02:38,080 DOMINIQUE WILKINS: Because you never think it's time, 59 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:41,020 but your body let's you know when it's time. 60 00:02:41,050 --> 00:02:45,070 But that's the most difficult thing-- actually saying 61 00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:49,010 to yourself, OK, it's over. 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,090 That's the most difficult thing for any athlete. 63 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,130 [heartfelt piano music] 64 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,030 REPORTER 1: Is it kind of hard to accept 65 00:02:55,060 --> 00:02:56,220 that there is no ceremony? 66 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:57,140 No fanfare? 67 00:02:57,170 --> 00:02:58,220 [inaudible] 68 00:02:59,010 --> 00:03:01,000 I'm not one for the whole thing, anyway. 69 00:03:01,030 --> 00:03:04,130 So, if you ask a lot of people around me, they'll tell you-- 70 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,080 you know, I'm-- [exhales] --I'm one that, like, 71 00:03:08,110 --> 00:03:12,220 I'm appreciative, but, you know, I do my time and just walk 72 00:03:13,010 --> 00:03:14,020 out the door is OK with me. 73 00:03:14,050 --> 00:03:15,060 You know? 74 00:03:15,090 --> 00:03:18,040 Believe it or not, but it's cool. 75 00:03:18,070 --> 00:03:19,170 [laughs] Believe me, no it's cool. 76 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,160 I, uh-- 77 00:03:20,190 --> 00:03:23,180 [heartfelt piano music] 78 00:03:25,170 --> 00:03:30,200 I just-- think it's been good. 79 00:03:34,060 --> 00:03:37,040 [upbeat drum music] 80 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:49,200 MICHELLE CARTER: Vince grew up in a pretty 81 00:03:49,230 --> 00:03:54,070 upscale suburban neighborhood, was a good student at school. 82 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:56,210 He got his work, stayed out of trouble. 83 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,140 VINCE CARTER: My entire family are all educators of some sort. 84 00:04:00,170 --> 00:04:04,180 School teachers, principals, you name it. 85 00:04:04,210 --> 00:04:07,030 So that's kind of how our household was. 86 00:04:07,060 --> 00:04:12,020 ANN SMITH: I taught him in my English class, which 87 00:04:12,050 --> 00:04:15,030 was wonderful, because I knew he would do all the assignments 88 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:18,160 and do what he had to do because that was required of Vince, 89 00:04:18,190 --> 00:04:20,120 above everything else. 90 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:23,060 VINCE CARTER: We were a small family 91 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:25,000 in the bigger scheme of things. 92 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:28,220 It's my brother and I, and then sometimes just the three of us. 93 00:04:29,010 --> 00:04:33,070 My aunt had one child, and that was it. 94 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:36,130 My memory is always in the gym. 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,120 [laughs] We always ended up in the gym. 96 00:04:40,150 --> 00:04:42,160 VINCE CARTER: It was very structured. 97 00:04:42,190 --> 00:04:45,100 You had what was expected. 98 00:04:45,130 --> 00:04:47,140 You know your dos and don'ts, pleases and thank yous. 99 00:04:47,170 --> 00:04:50,050 Like, I mean, you were taught to be polite. 100 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,120 Both of our mothers very strong women. 101 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:55,030 Very strong women. 102 00:04:55,060 --> 00:04:58,090 Neither one of them played any games with us. 103 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,040 And Miss Michelle didn't play with anybody. 104 00:05:02,070 --> 00:05:10,170 My only thing was being an educator is to try 105 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,050 to develop the whole child. 106 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,070 You're not just going to be an athlete. 107 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:22,060 Vince played on his first organized team at 7. 108 00:05:22,090 --> 00:05:26,180 Vince always played one league up from his age. 109 00:05:26,210 --> 00:05:31,130 You couldn't find any kids anywhere that had 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,190 what we describe as "God-given talent" 111 00:05:33,220 --> 00:05:36,110 that he has in that sport. 112 00:05:36,140 --> 00:05:39,080 TIFFANY SHOLTZ: He was, even at a young age, 113 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:43,020 always trying to be better at what he was trying to do. 114 00:05:43,050 --> 00:05:44,160 MICHELLE CARTER: He was in the band. 115 00:05:44,190 --> 00:05:49,010 He started playing the saxophone in the fifth grade. 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,050 Fast forward to the end of their season, 117 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,010 and he's first chair saxophone. 118 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 ANN SMITH: His stepfather was the band director, 119 00:05:59,110 --> 00:06:02,230 so you didn't play there either. 120 00:06:03,020 --> 00:06:04,170 I mean, you didn't play around. 121 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,140 You went and did what you had to do. 122 00:06:06,170 --> 00:06:08,200 MICHELLE CARTER: But he just always excelled 123 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:12,140 at basketball and, for that matter, at volleyball, 124 00:06:12,170 --> 00:06:14,040 when he tried that. 125 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:18,030 He went out for high jump on the spur of the moment, 126 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:20,170 he didn't even have on the proper shoes. 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,220 And he went out there and won. 128 00:06:23,010 --> 00:06:24,200 The fact that he even dunked for the first time 129 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:27,140 when he was in sixth grade was crazy. 130 00:06:27,170 --> 00:06:33,110 The things he was doing as a young boy, many people 131 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:35,030 couldn't do. 132 00:06:35,060 --> 00:06:38,080 And you know, at that time, Vince also played football. 133 00:06:38,110 --> 00:06:40,100 He was a quarterback. 134 00:06:40,130 --> 00:06:45,200 And I can remember after one game, my husband 135 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:48,160 Dennis going to Michelle and saying, 136 00:06:48,190 --> 00:06:52,160 get him off the football team. 137 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:54,200 He is a talented basketball player. 138 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:56,160 He's going to get hurt out there. 139 00:06:56,190 --> 00:06:58,000 Get him off. 140 00:06:58,030 --> 00:07:00,150 [laughs] My husband was rather forceful, 141 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:04,060 and we were all good friends, but he was sincere about that, 142 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:06,060 because he felt that Vince was going 143 00:07:06,090 --> 00:07:08,090 to go places in basketball. 144 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,140 PA ANNOUNCER 1: Featuring the Daytona 145 00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:11,100 Beach Mainland Buccaneers. 146 00:07:11,130 --> 00:07:13,100 [cheers] 147 00:07:13,130 --> 00:07:16,100 [cheerleaders chanting] 148 00:07:16,130 --> 00:07:19,140 [hip-hop music] 149 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,100 Goal by Vince Carter. 150 00:07:25,130 --> 00:07:27,100 [cheers] 151 00:07:27,130 --> 00:07:30,100 [hip-hop music] 152 00:07:30,130 --> 00:07:32,070 TIFFANY SHOLTZ: I think when it finally hit 153 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:34,190 me was when he was at Mainland. 154 00:07:34,220 --> 00:07:39,140 At Mainland, in the old gym, it was like prime time. 155 00:07:39,170 --> 00:07:41,080 I was always asking, why do we have 156 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:44,220 to get there during the freshman game when there's two other-- 157 00:07:45,010 --> 00:07:47,150 we have to watch another game just to watch Vince's game. 158 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:50,010 And that's how packed it was. 159 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,150 If you weren't there by the end of the freshman game, 160 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:55,220 you were not getting a seat. 161 00:07:56,010 --> 00:07:58,230 That's the court we used to play on right there. 162 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:05,010 Sports was our way of peace and our way to find a way 163 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,100 to get out of our environment. 164 00:08:06,130 --> 00:08:07,210 By the time we got to high school, 165 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,190 we was already grown and ready to go. 166 00:08:09,220 --> 00:08:12,050 PA ANNOUNCER 1: 15, Vince Carter. 167 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,210 ROD WALDON: When you have such a marquee player, and a player 168 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:21,230 with national notoriety, everyone wants a front seat 169 00:08:22,020 --> 00:08:23,160 to experience that. 170 00:08:23,190 --> 00:08:25,150 JOE GIDDENS: We used to play our game at 7 o'clock at night. 171 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:29,150 We had a line of people trying to buy tickets in our gym. 172 00:08:29,180 --> 00:08:33,040 And it got to the point where we had a gym full with people 173 00:08:33,070 --> 00:08:34,020 in both stands. 174 00:08:34,050 --> 00:08:35,190 It was amazing. 175 00:08:35,220 --> 00:08:38,110 Like, every game, no matter where we went, was jam-packed. 176 00:08:38,140 --> 00:08:40,050 It was standing room only. 177 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,110 At that time, he was getting taller and taller and taller. 178 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:44,200 VINCE CARTER: My freshman year in high school was like 5'7". 179 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:46,100 And I was a point guard. 180 00:08:46,130 --> 00:08:47,190 And I ended up being the starting point 181 00:08:47,220 --> 00:08:49,110 guard my freshman year. 182 00:08:49,140 --> 00:08:51,200 And then got to 6'1" my sophomore year. 183 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:52,210 I just moved up in position-- 184 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,080 [laughs] --as I got taller. 185 00:08:54,110 --> 00:08:56,110 In my senior year, I was like 6'5", 6'6". 186 00:08:56,140 --> 00:08:59,100 There was a high school All-American basketball 187 00:08:59,130 --> 00:09:02,220 game in Detroit at the Palace. 188 00:09:03,010 --> 00:09:06,180 And so Kevin Garnett and Shareef Abdur-Rahim 189 00:09:06,210 --> 00:09:09,190 and Paul Pierce and Stephon Marbury. 190 00:09:09,220 --> 00:09:12,000 They're all there, and Vince Carter is there. 191 00:09:12,030 --> 00:09:15,160 I'm one of the judges for the slam dunk contest. 192 00:09:15,190 --> 00:09:21,220 And so Vince, he comes out and does one dunk. 193 00:09:22,010 --> 00:09:23,210 And no one wants to go after him. 194 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,070 I've never seen somebody win a slam dunk contest 195 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:28,230 with just doing one dunk. 196 00:09:29,020 --> 00:09:31,090 TIFFANY SHOLTZ: When he actually made drum major, 197 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,070 oh my gosh, it was just like one other thing 198 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:36,070 that a lot of people will come to see, 199 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:37,170 because you will never think, OK, 200 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,160 Mr. Basketball is actually going to be 201 00:09:40,190 --> 00:09:42,050 the highlight of halftime. 202 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,020 But he would be just dancing and just thinking 203 00:09:45,050 --> 00:09:46,220 that he's the best dunker of all time, which 204 00:09:47,010 --> 00:09:48,070 I think he still thinks that. 205 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:49,230 It was very easy to spot him. 206 00:09:50,020 --> 00:09:51,190 Usually, he would tell me, Tiff, I'm gonna be on the 40, 207 00:09:51,220 --> 00:09:53,120 I'm going to be on the 30, I don't need that. 208 00:09:53,150 --> 00:09:56,150 Because he was always towering over the whole entire band. 209 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:59,200 Seconds later, he's on the court having to play a game. 210 00:09:59,230 --> 00:10:01,090 So he was like-- 211 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,180 he was, like, versatile. 212 00:10:02,210 --> 00:10:04,110 I was like, OK, dude, like, you're doing-- 213 00:10:04,140 --> 00:10:06,120 you're going to be the drum major and you're going to-- 214 00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:09,060 [laughs] --do basketball all at the same time? 215 00:10:09,090 --> 00:10:11,070 And of course he did it. 216 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:13,080 It's funny when I say this, my dad played football, 217 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:18,040 but he was also in the band as a young kid. 218 00:10:18,070 --> 00:10:23,070 He definitely influenced me and pushed me when I would 219 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:26,190 come down to visit in Orlando. 220 00:10:26,220 --> 00:10:29,220 He'd have me out there, whether it's 221 00:10:30,010 --> 00:10:31,100 working on my game on my shot. 222 00:10:31,130 --> 00:10:33,180 His dad got remarried to my next door neighbor, 223 00:10:33,210 --> 00:10:36,000 so he was always-- 224 00:10:36,030 --> 00:10:41,000 just when he visited his dad, he'd be next door, 225 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:42,110 and we'd play. 226 00:10:42,140 --> 00:10:43,190 I, um-- 227 00:10:43,220 --> 00:10:45,050 [exhales] 228 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,010 [dramatic music] 229 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,190 He's my dad, so I respect him. 230 00:10:49,220 --> 00:10:54,190 And it's no-- this is gonna go along the lines 231 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:57,060 of everything else about me-- 232 00:10:57,090 --> 00:11:03,100 I never felt the need to bash him publicly. 233 00:11:03,130 --> 00:11:06,120 It's tough sometimes, because he was very influential 234 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:08,130 in the Orlando area. 235 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,230 And a lot of kids that he touched because he 236 00:11:12,020 --> 00:11:13,180 did the midnight basketball. 237 00:11:13,210 --> 00:11:15,200 And he was, like, big. 238 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:17,200 So when you hear his name, you hear my name, 239 00:11:17,230 --> 00:11:20,050 people think it's me, but it's him. 240 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,230 But he was so influential and a lot of kids 241 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:24,110 grew up and, like-- so when I started living in Orlando, 242 00:11:24,140 --> 00:11:26,170 these kids now are growing up just like, man, 243 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,060 your dad, your dad, your dad. 244 00:11:28,090 --> 00:11:31,160 Because, like, he's a big time coach around there, 245 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:34,210 and he's very influential in kids' lives 246 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,130 and in growth and success. 247 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,190 In influence in basketball, he had some influence. 248 00:11:40,220 --> 00:11:43,140 He and my uncle, Oliver Lee-- 249 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:45,180 my uncle played in the NBA for a couple 250 00:11:45,210 --> 00:11:48,100 of years, played at Marquette. 251 00:11:48,130 --> 00:11:52,170 He used to heckle me like nobody's business. 252 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,130 When you hear him, you hear him. 253 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,060 He's like, yo, take that dude out, man! 254 00:11:57,090 --> 00:12:00,020 Hey, bro, 15, you ain't got it tonight! 255 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,110 Like, he's like, man-- 256 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:03,010 that's just him. 257 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,060 Being the jerk helped you get ready for you 258 00:12:06,090 --> 00:12:08,140 say you want to be a professional, well, guess what? 259 00:12:08,170 --> 00:12:10,090 I know what it's like. 260 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,040 This is stuff you deal with when you go on the road and playing 261 00:12:13,070 --> 00:12:16,120 in a Utah, in Sacramento, where it's loud and you can't hear, 262 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:17,170 or in college, matter of fact. 263 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,170 You go to Clemson, you go to Duke, 264 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,050 this is what you're going to hear. 265 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,090 But it's going to be 19,000 of them. 266 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Yes, it's an empty gym, it sounds like this, and it's me, 267 00:12:26,190 --> 00:12:28,170 and you can hear me loud and clear, can't you? 268 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,040 How is it affecting you? 269 00:12:30,070 --> 00:12:31,190 How are you handle it? 270 00:12:31,220 --> 00:12:35,110 When we saw there were 77 universities that wanted him 271 00:12:35,140 --> 00:12:39,180 to be a student athlete, I thought, 272 00:12:39,210 --> 00:12:42,140 OK, maybe he's got a chance. 273 00:12:42,170 --> 00:12:46,180 Somehow, someway, I kind of got down to six schools-- 274 00:12:46,210 --> 00:12:51,090 Kansas, Kentucky, Florida, Florida State, Duke, Carolina. 275 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,210 I remember afterwards, calling Tommy Amaker, who 276 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,090 was an assistant coach at Duke. 277 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,190 And I'm like, what happened? 278 00:12:58,220 --> 00:13:00,190 Why didn't-- why didn't we get him? 279 00:13:00,220 --> 00:13:02,120 And why did he go to North Carolina? 280 00:13:02,150 --> 00:13:06,070 And so we tried, but he ended up going 281 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:07,180 down the street to Chapel Hill. 282 00:13:07,210 --> 00:13:09,040 VINCE CARTER: It's hard to say no. 283 00:13:09,070 --> 00:13:11,010 It's like, you have Dean Smith, Bill Guthridge. 284 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,180 It speaks for itself. 285 00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:17,180 One, it from my mom is like his expectations for education 286 00:13:17,210 --> 00:13:19,100 and what he expected of us. 287 00:13:19,130 --> 00:13:21,050 And we were expected to see in the first three rows 288 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,190 of the classroom in the front. 289 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:24,040 Pointblank. 290 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:25,160 That's what was expected. 291 00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:28,050 So I could already see my mom, you could see her 292 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,150 just smiling at the home visit. 293 00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:33,040 She was happy about that. 294 00:13:33,070 --> 00:13:33,220 I was, too. 295 00:13:34,010 --> 00:13:35,140 She was happy. 296 00:13:35,170 --> 00:13:37,110 But, like, for me, if both worlds kind of meshed together, 297 00:13:37,140 --> 00:13:39,130 and we were both happy, it was kind of meant to be. 298 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,140 So I knew I made the right decision. 299 00:13:41,170 --> 00:13:44,140 [hip-hop music] 300 00:13:44,170 --> 00:13:46,070 [dramatic music] 301 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:47,230 MICHELLE CARTER: You're at the University of North Carolina 302 00:13:48,020 --> 00:13:49,130 Chapel Hill playing basketball. 303 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,120 [cheers] 304 00:13:53,220 --> 00:13:55,150 GRANT HILL: Even if you didn't watch Carolina, 305 00:13:55,180 --> 00:13:57,070 you saw the highlights. 306 00:13:57,100 --> 00:13:58,140 It was incredible. 307 00:13:58,170 --> 00:14:00,210 A Dukee wanted to watch Carolina just 308 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,150 to see what kind of incredible dunk 309 00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:06,110 that he might have in the game. 310 00:14:06,140 --> 00:14:08,170 MICHELLE CARTER: It was a little bit of an adjustment 311 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,000 for him his freshman year. 312 00:14:11,030 --> 00:14:14,070 Then the sophomore year, he just started to explode. 313 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:15,200 [cheers] 314 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:18,110 We remember Vince at Carolina. 315 00:14:18,140 --> 00:14:20,040 You know what I mean? 316 00:14:20,070 --> 00:14:25,050 So we knew what we were getting ready to witness in the NBA. 317 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,120 We knew it. 318 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:28,080 I don't even watch college basketball, 319 00:14:28,110 --> 00:14:31,040 and when Vince was at Carolina, like, 320 00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:33,170 it was must-see TV for me. 321 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,210 That's when I figured, OK, it looks 322 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,150 like we might be NBA-bound. 323 00:14:39,180 --> 00:14:41,170 ERNIE JOHNSON, JR (ON TV): It is a night when hopes and dreams 324 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,050 and butterflies abound. 325 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Its Draft Night 1998. 326 00:14:45,070 --> 00:14:47,140 You could tell he was nervous, because it's draft day. 327 00:14:47,170 --> 00:14:50,080 You hear, you may go here, you may go there, 328 00:14:50,110 --> 00:14:51,200 but you never know. 329 00:14:51,230 --> 00:14:54,230 The fourth pick was interesting because I worked 330 00:14:55,020 --> 00:14:57,040 out for Toronto, obviously. 331 00:14:57,070 --> 00:14:59,030 Antawn didn't work out for Toronto. 332 00:14:59,060 --> 00:15:03,180 With the fourth pick in the 1998 NBA Draft, 333 00:15:03,210 --> 00:15:07,140 the Toronto Raptors select Antawn Jamison 334 00:15:07,170 --> 00:15:09,140 from the University of North Carolina. 335 00:15:09,170 --> 00:15:10,140 VINCE CARTER: He gets drafted. 336 00:15:10,170 --> 00:15:11,150 It was like, exciting. 337 00:15:11,180 --> 00:15:13,070 It was like, man, my roommate-- 338 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:15,110 my college roommate just got drafted, like, that's cool. 339 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:18,040 And then now fifth pick, we're not sure. 340 00:15:18,070 --> 00:15:21,100 I remember my agent said this is a possible pick. 341 00:15:21,130 --> 00:15:23,020 So we'll see. 342 00:15:23,050 --> 00:15:24,090 And then, next thing you know, you hear your name called. 343 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,060 The Golden State Warriors select 344 00:15:26,090 --> 00:15:29,130 Vince Carter from the University of North Carolina. 345 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,080 [cheers, applause] 346 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:33,200 VINCE CARTER: All of the things that you think about for all 347 00:15:33,230 --> 00:15:36,000 these years just happened. 348 00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:39,140 And you watch the draft year after year, 349 00:15:39,170 --> 00:15:40,230 but now you're that person there. 350 00:15:41,020 --> 00:15:42,090 You don't know how to react. 351 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,100 I remember getting the hat and putting it on. 352 00:15:45,130 --> 00:15:46,190 And I remember going up the steps, 353 00:15:46,220 --> 00:15:48,000 and I remember seeing Antawn. 354 00:15:48,030 --> 00:15:49,170 He was trying to say something to me. 355 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,130 And he's mouthing, and I don't know what he's saying. 356 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,200 I'm like, what is he saying? 357 00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:54,020 So I'm trying to, like, figure it out. 358 00:15:54,050 --> 00:15:55,160 So I go to shake David Stern's hand. 359 00:15:55,190 --> 00:15:57,090 He said, congratulations. 360 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,230 Stand right here for a second. 361 00:15:59,020 --> 00:16:00,020 There's about to be a trade. 362 00:16:00,050 --> 00:16:01,120 I said, OK. 363 00:16:01,150 --> 00:16:06,060 Toronto has traded the rights to Antawn Jamison 364 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:09,080 to Golden State for the rights to Vince 365 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:12,130 Carter plus cash consideration. 366 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,200 Oh, shoot, it's for me. 367 00:16:13,230 --> 00:16:15,080 [laughs] 368 00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:17,020 I covered the Golden State Warriors when they-- 369 00:16:17,050 --> 00:16:20,220 [laughs] --they drafted Vince, and then 370 00:16:21,010 --> 00:16:23,090 they traded him for Antawn. 371 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,160 And it probably goes to the heart of like the misconception 372 00:16:27,190 --> 00:16:29,070 of who Vince was. 373 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,120 Because the Warriors, at that time, 374 00:16:31,150 --> 00:16:35,000 were trying to create a better culture. 375 00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:36,210 Tell me about this guy's game. 376 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,000 He's going to be a tremendous player in the NBA. 377 00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:41,050 He's gonna be one of those guys whose name is gonna 378 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,010 be in the NBA for a long time. 379 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,180 Even though I looked at it, I went-- 380 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:50,120 [inhales] --there's a talent disparity here between the two. 381 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:54,170 BUTCH CARTER: We had fought hard to get Vince drafted. 382 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,070 The scouts thought that there were two other players 383 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,170 that they liked over Vince. 384 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,220 And I thought, in watching the video him 385 00:17:03,010 --> 00:17:07,150 in North Carolina, that outside of Michael Jordan 386 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:09,200 as a North Carolina athlete, there 387 00:17:09,230 --> 00:17:11,110 wasn't anyone as close as Vince. 388 00:17:11,140 --> 00:17:14,050 And he wasn't being used in what I thought 389 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,150 his maximum potential was. 390 00:17:16,180 --> 00:17:18,210 The prior regime that had left, Isaiah and them, 391 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,140 had put the word out that there was no money in Toronto. 392 00:17:22,170 --> 00:17:25,220 So we basically played that to the other general managers. 393 00:17:26,010 --> 00:17:28,060 We'll do this deal with you, we'll do that deal with you, 394 00:17:28,090 --> 00:17:31,140 and you got to give us a million dollars, plus the transaction. 395 00:17:31,170 --> 00:17:35,010 We had a temporary practice facility at a local university, 396 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,160 Glendon College. 397 00:17:36,190 --> 00:17:39,100 That was OK, certainly not the standards of NBAs today, 398 00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:41,150 but for back in the NBA, it was OK. 399 00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:43,170 Our president told us, well, we don't have enough money 400 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,010 to build a practice facility. 401 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,040 I asked him, how much do we need, right? 402 00:17:47,070 --> 00:17:49,020 So the Vince Carter trade got us started 403 00:17:49,050 --> 00:17:51,010 on getting the $3 million we needed 404 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,170 to build a practice facility. 405 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,170 So everybody talks about what he did, and Vince 406 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,160 created so much value in the franchise from the night 407 00:17:59,190 --> 00:18:01,160 he was drafted. 408 00:18:01,190 --> 00:18:06,110 He independently stabilized one NBA franchise by himself. 409 00:18:06,140 --> 00:18:08,000 RACHEL NICHOLS: He legitimized so much 410 00:18:08,030 --> 00:18:09,160 for the Toronto Raptors. 411 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:12,040 Expansion franchise teams, they're not very good, right? 412 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:14,050 I heard someone talking about the Raptors 413 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,100 when they first started, I think the line was, 414 00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:19,010 when Vince was there, the Raptors were three years old, 415 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,100 and like any three year old, they 416 00:18:20,130 --> 00:18:21,100 weren't very good at anything. 417 00:18:21,130 --> 00:18:22,220 [laughs] 418 00:18:23,010 --> 00:18:25,130 You know, we were having difficulties improving. 419 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,020 Players didn't want to go to a losing situation. 420 00:18:28,050 --> 00:18:30,210 Coming off a tough season, we're not 421 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,200 the most attractive destination for players, 422 00:18:35,230 --> 00:18:39,170 having only won 16 out of 82 games. 423 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,140 Besides bringing in Vince, we brought in Charles Oakley 424 00:18:43,170 --> 00:18:47,020 and Kevin Willis, two tough veteran players 425 00:18:47,050 --> 00:18:50,100 primarily to sort of establish the culture 426 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:55,030 and to provide some experience and leadership 427 00:18:55,060 --> 00:18:56,140 to the younger guys. 428 00:18:56,170 --> 00:18:58,160 And that worked well. 429 00:18:58,190 --> 00:19:00,210 It was a lockout year, so we didn't start playing, 430 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,080 I don't think, until December. 431 00:19:02,110 --> 00:19:03,170 Vince was our top rookie. 432 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,100 And my thing was to give him respect. 433 00:19:06,130 --> 00:19:08,160 And when you give it, you receive it. 434 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:10,120 And it was very, very easy. 435 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:14,200 And after we started to get to know one another, 436 00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:23,000 obviously, on the court, off the court, it became like a family. 437 00:19:23,030 --> 00:19:28,160 When you have a nucleus of good veterans around your two 438 00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:30,150 or three young players-- 439 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:33,200 Vince, Tracy McGrady, Alvin Williams-- 440 00:19:33,230 --> 00:19:37,010 guys like that that are hungry, guys 441 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,130 want to learn and take on this responsibility 442 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,010 to lead the team-- 443 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,110 and Vince being our number one guy at that time-- 444 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:46,140 it was just fun to watch him develop. 445 00:19:46,170 --> 00:19:49,150 T-Mac and I were just out there playing, hooping, 446 00:19:49,180 --> 00:19:52,100 and just doing what we do. 447 00:19:52,130 --> 00:19:54,110 And that's what made it cool. 448 00:19:54,140 --> 00:19:58,000 They complemented each other well, I believe. 449 00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:01,070 They played together well, and they fed off each other. 450 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,160 When I was asked to come do this interview, 451 00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:06,210 I went through my notes, and I pull out the note from 452 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,160 February, I think, 22nd of '99. 453 00:20:12,190 --> 00:20:16,030 It's the 12th game of a 50-game season. 454 00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:19,000 We're playing Chicago at home, and I've 455 00:20:19,030 --> 00:20:22,000 got all these notes of stuff that Vince Carter can't do. 456 00:20:22,030 --> 00:20:24,180 It was just a lot of stuff running through my mind 457 00:20:24,210 --> 00:20:27,030 how to continuously improve him. 458 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:29,110 You know, I have to say that I was one 459 00:20:29,150 --> 00:20:33,060 of the luckiest coaches, because Vince was one of those players 460 00:20:33,090 --> 00:20:36,190 that, if you gave him the "why" of why 461 00:20:36,220 --> 00:20:40,190 he needed to do something, he could pick it up very easily. 462 00:20:40,220 --> 00:20:45,130 Canada was and will always be a hockey country, 463 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,010 but I think he really inspired a lot of kids 464 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,090 to pick up balls and head to the court, you know? 465 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,120 I don't think that that was really something that anybody 466 00:20:54,150 --> 00:20:56,020 was doing before he came along. 467 00:20:56,050 --> 00:20:59,030 But just because of how electrifying he was, 468 00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:04,140 his highlight reels, he just made basketball seem cool. 469 00:21:04,170 --> 00:21:07,000 I really think Vince had a huge impact 470 00:21:07,030 --> 00:21:10,100 on how people in Canada appreciate basketball, 471 00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:12,030 and that exists today. 472 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:15,090 JASON KIDD: It just shows what Vince is capable of doing. 473 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:18,000 Being in college, there's a lot of excitement 474 00:21:18,030 --> 00:21:19,210 coming to the league. 475 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,110 But he just goes with the flow. 476 00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:25,050 But he ends up going to a team in Toronto 477 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,150 and understanding that now not just 478 00:21:27,180 --> 00:21:31,040 that he has a state or city, but he has a country behind him. 479 00:21:31,070 --> 00:21:35,010 And he didn't he didn't sell them short, because he came 480 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,110 on the scene and he exploded. 481 00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:39,090 And being able to win Rookie of the Year 482 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:43,120 just showed how talented he was. 483 00:21:43,150 --> 00:21:46,140 [hip-hop music] 484 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:52,060 MAN 1: The man that has turned the slam dunk into an art. 485 00:21:52,090 --> 00:21:56,170 That's the fabulous "Dr. J" Julius Erving. 486 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,000 VINCE CARTER: Dr. J was my hero. 487 00:21:59,030 --> 00:22:00,120 Point blank, period. 488 00:22:00,150 --> 00:22:03,150 And he so happened to be a pretty darn good dunker 489 00:22:03,180 --> 00:22:05,010 himself. 490 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,160 Growing up, I taped the dunk contest every year 491 00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:14,020 to where I remember sometimes when you play a tape too much, 492 00:22:14,050 --> 00:22:16,120 it starts to get blurry, and the screen starts to jump 493 00:22:16,150 --> 00:22:18,090 and all that. 494 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,140 [cheers] 495 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,160 In my prime, I mean, I started dunking the ball 496 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:27,180 when I used to do clinics for Converse. 497 00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:30,210 So that was-- 498 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,000 I always gave the audience a dunk show. 499 00:22:36,030 --> 00:22:39,180 So I'm trying to figure out what he's doing pre-routine, 500 00:22:39,210 --> 00:22:41,040 before that dunk. 501 00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:44,020 And that's what helped me expand my creativity. 502 00:22:44,050 --> 00:22:47,140 You have guys who can jump really high that can dunk, 503 00:22:47,170 --> 00:22:49,000 and you got guys who can jump really high 504 00:22:49,030 --> 00:22:51,150 with creativity, which kind of separates 505 00:22:51,180 --> 00:22:53,160 you from everyone else. 506 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:56,220 Playing in the NBA was a dream, obviously, 507 00:22:57,010 --> 00:23:01,050 but the dunk contest is what I, like, I studied. 508 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,190 Like, I was like, this is it. 509 00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:05,130 The reason Vince's slam dunk contest was so good, 510 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,120 he was just head-and-shoulders above everybody else. 511 00:23:08,150 --> 00:23:11,110 It wasn't-- as we say, it wasn't a fair fight. 512 00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:13,120 I knew he was a favorite. 513 00:23:13,150 --> 00:23:15,170 I don't know if the world knew he was a favorite. 514 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,060 All he did was say, here come a handful of dunks. 515 00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:21,110 Good luck to the rest of you. 516 00:23:21,140 --> 00:23:22,200 VINCE CARTER: Right about now, I am 517 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:25,200 thinking about all the times I tried this dunk, 518 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:27,200 and it looked awful. 519 00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:31,020 As I put that head down, that's when I was like, we got this. 520 00:23:31,050 --> 00:23:34,010 [ecstatic cheers] 521 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,070 KENNY SMITH: Let's go home! 522 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,130 Let's go home, ladies and gentlemen! 523 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,170 DIRK NOWITZKI: It was all before he even got to the finals. 524 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,050 Really, after the first dunk, that was already it. 525 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,090 I mean, that was a dunk I'll always remember. 526 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:49,060 VINCE CARTER: I wanted to set the tone first dunk. 527 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:51,110 Not, oh, OK, all right, he's warming up. 528 00:23:51,140 --> 00:23:52,180 No, no. 529 00:23:52,210 --> 00:23:53,170 I'm ready. 530 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,000 I'm here. 531 00:23:55,030 --> 00:23:58,120 Like, if you don't get on this level-- 532 00:23:58,150 --> 00:24:01,110 The dunk contest is on one side of the floor, 533 00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:03,190 and when Vince would come up to dunk, 534 00:24:03,220 --> 00:24:06,010 the whole arena would run to the other side. 535 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,230 It was that crazy. 536 00:24:08,020 --> 00:24:11,110 On this next dunk, I'm trying to show distance 537 00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:14,090 while doing a windmill. 538 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,150 [ecstatic cheers] 539 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:20,130 MARV ALBERT: Kenny Smith, the only judge not to award a 10. 540 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,220 What's going on? 541 00:24:22,010 --> 00:24:26,050 The nine dunk was a 10 in any other setting. 542 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,010 And that first dunk just set a tone in the building. 543 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,050 But I said, that is the new 10. 544 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,020 VINCE CARTER: So with this one, we had to use a teammate. 545 00:24:34,050 --> 00:24:36,010 So we get out there, it's like, all right, what am I doing? 546 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,150 I said, stand right here and just-- 547 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:41,100 just bounce it, and then back up. 548 00:24:41,130 --> 00:24:43,050 He's like, man, what are you about to do? 549 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,070 I said, you'll see. 550 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,040 MIKE FRATELLO: --incurred an injury dealing with weights 551 00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:48,180 in the weight room. 552 00:24:48,210 --> 00:24:49,190 So he's stitched up in the left hand doing all this. 553 00:24:49,220 --> 00:24:50,170 [ecstatic cheers] 554 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,150 MARV ALBERT: Oh! 555 00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:53,110 KENNY SMITH: It's over! 556 00:24:53,140 --> 00:24:55,180 It's over, ladies and gentlemen! 557 00:24:55,210 --> 00:24:57,120 I don't have, like, catchphrases. 558 00:24:57,150 --> 00:24:59,220 And I don't know if he heard me or not, but at the same time, 559 00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:02,100 he goes like this, "It's over." 560 00:25:02,130 --> 00:25:05,040 And Kenny going crazy telling me, it's over! 561 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:06,120 It's over! 562 00:25:06,150 --> 00:25:09,110 I just attempted a dunk that I've never 563 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:11,140 tried before, like somebody-- 564 00:25:11,170 --> 00:25:13,190 the dunk gods or somebody, somebody-- 565 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:14,100 thank you. 566 00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:15,180 [laughs] 567 00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:17,160 He pointed up at the rafters like this, 568 00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:20,160 and that forever stuck with me. 569 00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:23,130 So when it came down to 2016, we were in Toronto, 570 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,160 I made sure I pointed up just like he did, 571 00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:29,040 as a tribute to Vince. 572 00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:30,120 I had to do it. 573 00:25:30,150 --> 00:25:32,170 I am literally making these dunks 574 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,080 up right here in front of you tonight and pulling them off. 575 00:25:36,110 --> 00:25:37,140 You can't tell me nothing. 576 00:25:37,170 --> 00:25:38,130 It's over! 577 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,000 You can't tell me nothing. 578 00:25:40,030 --> 00:25:43,090 RIC BUCHER: He was a genius in a physical way, 579 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:47,070 in that, like, he could just imagine 580 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:50,210 something and then execute it. 581 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,120 You know, these unbelievable physical acts that, 582 00:25:55,150 --> 00:25:57,020 for most people, would be like, I got 583 00:25:57,050 --> 00:25:58,200 to do this over and over again. 584 00:25:58,230 --> 00:26:00,120 Dunk number four, what do I want 585 00:26:00,150 --> 00:26:02,230 to accomplish in this dunk? 586 00:26:03,020 --> 00:26:06,200 As I turn around, I said, like, a quick prayer, OK, 587 00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:08,090 don't kill yourself. 588 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,120 So when I walk by, I'm just rubbing it last second 589 00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:11,100 just to say, just to kind of prep 590 00:26:11,130 --> 00:26:13,120 it for this, because I don't know if it's going to hurt 591 00:26:13,150 --> 00:26:15,000 or not. 592 00:26:15,030 --> 00:26:16,210 And as I go, I just remember taking that one-two 593 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,120 and jumping up high. 594 00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:20,100 MARV ALBERT: Carter with his first on the final round! 595 00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:22,090 [laughs] 596 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,040 I close my eyes to hold on. 597 00:26:25,070 --> 00:26:29,050 And I wanted to hear nothing. 598 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:34,180 I think we were just all in awe of what he did that night. 599 00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,120 VINCE CARTER: I just remember landing like-- 600 00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:39,030 [sighs] --look around, and the first thing you're going to see 601 00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:40,200 is Shaq's face. 602 00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:43,220 And it wasn't that he just stuck his whole arm in there, 603 00:26:44,010 --> 00:26:46,150 it's like he put it there and just kind 604 00:26:46,180 --> 00:26:48,160 of gave you a couple of these. 605 00:26:48,190 --> 00:26:50,100 Because he knew that people were 606 00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:53,090 going to have to catch up with the idea of what he just did. 607 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,230 Because it wasn't through the legs, 608 00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:57,070 it wasn't the other things that he did, it was, 609 00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:00,020 this dude just went so high that he basically just 610 00:27:00,050 --> 00:27:03,150 jammed his arm into the basket. 611 00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:06,170 He said-- afterwards, he said he did stuff 612 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,040 that he had never practiced. 613 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:12,050 [laughs] So it was like creativity on the spot. 614 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,020 That's probably why it was so good. 615 00:27:14,050 --> 00:27:16,010 He just owned the night. 616 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,170 He owned the arena. 617 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,090 And, to me, it will always be the single greatest dunk 618 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,060 performance that I've ever seen. 619 00:27:23,090 --> 00:27:27,080 He's in a class by himself when it comes to dunking. 620 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:29,150 Like, he's simply in a class by-- you don't-- 621 00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:31,000 you can mention whoever you want. 622 00:27:31,030 --> 00:27:33,000 There's some great dunkers out here. 623 00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:35,090 You can mention all those guys, and I will-- 624 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,000 ditto. 625 00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:45,170 But when you try to compare somebody to Vince Carter, 626 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,050 I don't want to hear it. 627 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,060 It was a whole different environment. 628 00:27:49,090 --> 00:27:51,200 He ignited a country with a dunk contest. 629 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:54,170 He put Canadian basketball on the map. 630 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,100 REPORTER 1: The Toronto Raptors basketball team hit the court 631 00:27:58,130 --> 00:28:00,110 at the Air Canada Center. 632 00:28:00,140 --> 00:28:03,030 The crowd went crazy when the dunk 633 00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:06,220 master himself, Vince Carter, made his grand appearance. 634 00:28:07,010 --> 00:28:08,150 [cheers] 635 00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:10,100 [upbeat funk music] 636 00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:13,130 Vinsanity, to me, it means the dawn of a new era. 637 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,120 The dawn of a new culture. 638 00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:16,180 Vince was taking over the league. 639 00:28:16,210 --> 00:28:18,150 He was going crazy, man. 640 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:21,150 He had now established that he was more than a dunker. 641 00:28:21,180 --> 00:28:24,220 He was scoring 50 balls, 40 balls, 30 balls, 642 00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:26,050 night after night after night. 643 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,060 Half man, half amazing, right? 644 00:28:28,090 --> 00:28:30,220 Only I think at some point, he just became all amazing. 645 00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:34,110 You know, with me, like, we would be in a locker room, 646 00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:40,020 and we knew we was getting ready to play against Vince. 647 00:28:40,050 --> 00:28:44,090 And all I was just telling the big men, just watch your head. 648 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,150 [laughs] You know what I mean? 649 00:28:46,180 --> 00:28:49,050 Because he will make you a poster. 650 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,080 NICK DEPAULA: "Vinsanity" is cool. 651 00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:52,220 And I think "Air Canada" is probably 652 00:28:53,010 --> 00:28:54,190 the better one, though, because I grew up in Sacramento. 653 00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:56,150 Jason Williams was a rookie that year. 654 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:59,130 This was pre-Instagram, pre-House of Highlights, 655 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,070 pre-internet, everything. 656 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,160 And so, for a guy to be in Toronto, and it's the, I think, 657 00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:07,040 fifth year of the franchise even, 658 00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:09,130 he really opened the door to the whole country. 659 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,140 And so I think that's the piece, when you look at the legacy, 660 00:29:11,170 --> 00:29:13,140 that really sticks out to me is like how much he 661 00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:14,220 could put that city on the map. 662 00:29:15,010 --> 00:29:16,100 DWIGHT POWELL: Even though he might not 663 00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:18,210 have been Canadian, like, a lot of us kind of just 664 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,120 accepted that he might be. 665 00:29:20,150 --> 00:29:23,010 Like, we want him to be, and that 666 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,090 was a big part of I think of a lot of our development 667 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,210 at that age. 668 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,200 REPORTER 2: With one of his signature slam dunks, 669 00:29:29,230 --> 00:29:33,000 Toronto Raptor Vince Carter inaugurated 670 00:29:33,030 --> 00:29:35,080 a new state of the art basketball court 671 00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:37,070 in Etobicoke today. 672 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,220 Carter, through his charity, the Embassy of Hope Foundation, 673 00:29:41,010 --> 00:29:44,180 built an NBA-sized court with a pro surface and lighting 674 00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:48,230 system valued at $130,000. 675 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:51,030 It's a gift to the kids in the Dixon 676 00:29:51,060 --> 00:29:52,200 and Islington neighborhoods. 677 00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:55,060 I just hope it creates a lot of great basketball players. 678 00:29:55,090 --> 00:29:57,030 I mean, we're not here to really create 679 00:29:57,060 --> 00:29:59,070 NBA superstars or anything, but I think just 680 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,200 instilling confidence in each and everybody 681 00:30:01,230 --> 00:30:03,200 here and giving them some place to play. 682 00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:05,140 I'll never forget, we went to the mall, 683 00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:06,220 I'm with Vince Carter. 684 00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:08,060 And at the time, Vince Carter was, like, 685 00:30:08,090 --> 00:30:09,180 really Vince Carter in Toronto. 686 00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:11,070 Like, everybody knew Vince Carter, so it was, like, 687 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:12,150 people looking. 688 00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:14,020 And then it got to the point where we had 689 00:30:14,050 --> 00:30:16,230 to run out the mall, like run. 690 00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:18,210 We went downstairs, got to the car, 691 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,160 and when we got in front of the mall, 692 00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:22,120 we got surrounded by people. 693 00:30:22,150 --> 00:30:23,210 Like, it was crazy. 694 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,160 Like, people around the car, Vince! 695 00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:26,200 Vince! 696 00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:28,070 surrounded, but we couldn't drive. 697 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:30,000 And I was just like-- 698 00:30:30,030 --> 00:30:32,100 [exhales] --awe, like, I was in awe. 699 00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:33,200 My mouth was open. 700 00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:35,100 Vince was like, man, I told you this was crazy. 701 00:30:35,130 --> 00:30:38,160 It didn't take long before Vince's face 702 00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:45,060 was on bus benches, buses, and sides of condos. 703 00:30:45,090 --> 00:30:46,210 Just everywhere. 704 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,150 RACHEL NICHOLS: Most players are playing for their city 705 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,140 or for an adopted fan base. 706 00:30:50,170 --> 00:30:53,210 Playing for and having the responsibility of not only 707 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,090 being the star for an entire country, 708 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,180 in terms of that sport, but also for a relatively new franchise 709 00:31:00,210 --> 00:31:03,050 that basically was depending on Vince to take 710 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,120 them to the promised land. 711 00:31:04,150 --> 00:31:05,200 The first time they made the playoffs 712 00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:07,090 was because of Vince Carter. 713 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,040 What they were going to do internationally and sort 714 00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:11,110 of making their mark in the league 715 00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:13,180 was going to be because of Vince Carter. 716 00:31:13,210 --> 00:31:14,130 That's a lot. 717 00:31:17,090 --> 00:31:20,060 [music playing] 718 00:31:23,020 --> 00:31:24,150 Life is a little different. 719 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:26,210 A little more media coming around. 720 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,060 My confidence is at an all-time high. 721 00:31:28,090 --> 00:31:30,200 I'm playing pretty good basketball. 722 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:35,050 I received a phone call from USA Basketball, 723 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:41,040 and them saying, we want you on because Tom Gugliotta got hurt, 724 00:31:41,070 --> 00:31:44,020 and would I accept. 725 00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:45,100 "Would I"-- what? 726 00:31:45,130 --> 00:31:47,110 Would I accept? 727 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:50,160 Man, can't even tell you what I said. 728 00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:53,070 Watching the Dream Team, watching Dream Team II-- 729 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,030 so you're talking about a '92, '96-- 730 00:31:57,060 --> 00:32:01,050 we're that next group after Dream Team II. 731 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,130 I was just elated to join the group. 732 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,080 I remember getting that jersey and taking those photos-- 733 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:10,140 [chuckles] --because I remember seeing the original photo. 734 00:32:10,170 --> 00:32:13,080 And then all of a sudden, I see the new photo, 735 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:15,090 like, they Photoshop me right on in. 736 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,160 And I was just sitting there like this, 737 00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:19,020 I was like, I took that picture by myself. 738 00:32:19,050 --> 00:32:21,180 JASON KIDD: When we got Vince for that 2000 Olympics 739 00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:24,110 through Australia, we all knew once he took flight, 740 00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:26,000 no one was gonna jump with him. 741 00:32:26,030 --> 00:32:27,090 I was excited. 742 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,100 I think Gary Payton was excited, because we 743 00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:32,140 had another weapon that we could throw a lob to above the rim. 744 00:32:32,170 --> 00:32:34,000 ANNOUNCER 1 (VOICEOVER): Kidd in the paint. 745 00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:35,050 Still goes right at it. 746 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,060 VINCE CARTER: I don't know how Gary 747 00:32:36,090 --> 00:32:38,100 Payton misses that easy layup. 748 00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:40,040 Let's start by that. 749 00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:44,130 I'm thankful for it, because it became a historic play. 750 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,040 It was just one of those things that right 751 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:48,030 place at the right time. 752 00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:50,190 Guy gets the ball, he throws a behind-the-back pass, 753 00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:57,080 and I see the lane, and I was like, I'm jumping too far. 754 00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:59,210 As I hit him, I'm looking past him. 755 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,110 ANNOUNCER 2 (VOICEOVER): Vince Carter inside-- 756 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:02,090 ANNOUNCER 3 (VOICEOVER): Oh! 757 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,140 Oh! 758 00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:06,150 VINCE CARTER: I'm celebrating I made it, because I 759 00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:08,080 knew I jumped too far. 760 00:33:08,110 --> 00:33:13,110 Meanwhile, KG is cheering for something totally different. 761 00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:17,170 And after the game, Gary Payton actually had 762 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,170 the play on their camcorder. 763 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,070 That's how I found out that I jumped over him. 764 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:29,000 When he jumps and takes off, it's like in slow-mo. 765 00:33:29,030 --> 00:33:32,110 You go, did we just see him jump over this guy? 766 00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:34,020 It was just incredible. 767 00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:37,210 You know, that was just a tribute to his athleticism, 768 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,060 his creativity, and what a good adrenaline 769 00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:43,010 rush can do for a person. 770 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,130 To get over a whole seven-footer and dunk it clear with barely 771 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,070 pushing off, that's like one of the most 772 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:51,100 ridiculous dunks of all time. 773 00:33:51,130 --> 00:33:53,060 We still talk about it to this day. 774 00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:55,040 And it kind of launched the shoe, 775 00:33:55,070 --> 00:33:58,000 too, because he was in a transition, 776 00:33:58,030 --> 00:34:00,080 I think, from Puma to Nike. 777 00:34:00,110 --> 00:34:03,040 And this is when the Shock was coming. 778 00:34:03,070 --> 00:34:06,090 And so when he did that, it was incredible. 779 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,070 I tried to put on those Shox, it didn't work for me. 780 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:10,180 I didn't jump like that. 781 00:34:10,210 --> 00:34:13,190 [dramatic music] 782 00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:27,070 RACHEL NICHOLS: Vince, in particular, 783 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,060 just didn't have a great first playoffs, 784 00:34:28,090 --> 00:34:29,060 which of course he didn't. 785 00:34:29,090 --> 00:34:30,220 I think he was 23 years old. 786 00:34:31,010 --> 00:34:32,220 You just need the experience of playing in the playoffs 787 00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:34,170 and understanding what it's about. 788 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,180 Because it's a totally different basketball game than playing 789 00:34:37,210 --> 00:34:40,020 in regular season at any point. 790 00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:42,230 The Knicks beat us down. 791 00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:45,130 Took a little abuse from the media, 792 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,200 just because, oh, he couldn't get his team to win. 793 00:34:47,230 --> 00:34:49,150 You know, they were just better than us. 794 00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:50,220 And we were learning. 795 00:34:51,010 --> 00:34:52,160 And I think T-Mac had a great series. 796 00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:54,160 GLEN GRUNWALD: It was a positive sign, even though we got swept, 797 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:56,110 I think. 798 00:34:56,140 --> 00:34:58,040 It was those games were pretty close, 799 00:34:58,070 --> 00:35:00,130 and we showed that we were pretty competitive. 800 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,170 It was a real sign that we had, again, 801 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,200 taken another big step forward in establishing 802 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:10,070 ourselves as a good franchise. 803 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,050 One of the key issues we faced was 804 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,220 the Tracy McGrady free agency. 805 00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:17,000 Back then, there was a different rookie contract 806 00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:18,170 when a player got drafted. 807 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,150 The potential loss of Tracy and his 808 00:35:21,180 --> 00:35:24,050 know inability to commit one way or the other 809 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,200 to signing with us or another team sort of put 810 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:28,040 the team in a real bind. 811 00:35:28,070 --> 00:35:29,140 You want everything to be smooth. 812 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:32,070 When you're trying to keep a guy like a T-Mac 813 00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:36,090 with all the potential, you want everything in your organization 814 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,220 to be running smooth. 815 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:40,010 And it kind of just started to get a little bumpy. 816 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,160 In my end the year meeting, I presented 817 00:35:42,190 --> 00:35:49,090 that, if Grunwald and I could sign Tracy McGrady, 818 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,190 would the franchise consider moving Grunwald to president 819 00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:55,070 and give me the coach and GM title. 820 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,190 I think that Tracy, with the style that they were playing 821 00:35:58,220 --> 00:36:02,160 in Toronto and sort of the way the Raptors coaches used him, 822 00:36:02,190 --> 00:36:05,020 he certainly didn't feel like a main guy. 823 00:36:05,050 --> 00:36:08,100 And that was part of why he wanted to depart for Orlando. 824 00:36:08,130 --> 00:36:10,120 I didn't get as much playing time as he did. 825 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:12,110 That was Vince Carter's show. 826 00:36:12,140 --> 00:36:13,190 Couldn't talk me out of it. 827 00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:15,100 I mean, I hated-- 828 00:36:15,130 --> 00:36:17,020 Vince, I hated to leave you, but it's a business, baby. 829 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:20,160 [laughs] I hated to leave, but, you know, 830 00:36:20,190 --> 00:36:22,060 I had to do what's best for me. 831 00:36:22,090 --> 00:36:23,220 It hurt a little bit. 832 00:36:24,010 --> 00:36:28,180 You know, but that's the way it goes, and I slept on it. 833 00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:31,030 So what now? 834 00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:34,000 But, definitely, it's tough to swallow. 835 00:36:34,030 --> 00:36:36,090 I guess when they feel-- you think they feel one way, 836 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,160 and then they leave, here comes the truth, I guess. 837 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:41,200 When two guys aren't talking directly to each other, 838 00:36:41,230 --> 00:36:44,100 then it just becomes, well, he said this about you. 839 00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:47,090 What I remember is Charles Oakley getting in the middle, 840 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,100 basically, and handing one of them 841 00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:51,060 the phone that the other one was on and saying, 842 00:36:51,090 --> 00:36:52,200 here, work this out. 843 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:56,000 We were too close and too tight 844 00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:59,060 and having too much fun together for this to seem real. 845 00:36:59,090 --> 00:37:02,010 When Tracy elected to leave to go to the Orlando Magic, 846 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,190 it was-- 847 00:37:03,220 --> 00:37:05,140 I don't think it hurt us that much initially, 848 00:37:05,170 --> 00:37:07,070 but I think over the course of time, 849 00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:10,030 to lose a talent like Tracy McGrady, 850 00:37:10,060 --> 00:37:12,150 was a big setback for the long-term development 851 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:14,030 of the franchise. 852 00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:16,140 When I heard him say, I'm getting an opportunity 853 00:37:16,170 --> 00:37:21,040 to play in front of my family, my home crowd, like, where I'm 854 00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:24,160 from, I'm like, shoot, if I had that opportunity, 855 00:37:24,190 --> 00:37:26,000 I'd do it, too. 856 00:37:26,030 --> 00:37:27,160 So there's no ill will, no hard feelings. 857 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:30,080 The sad part was, if Tracy would have been just drafted 858 00:37:30,110 --> 00:37:34,110 out of high school where he lived and come to Toronto, 859 00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:39,060 he would not have had such a tug of heart to go back to Florida. 860 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:41,190 You know, everyone wanted to resign Tracy. 861 00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,210 Vince wanted him back. 862 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,170 But that was one of those difficult situations 863 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,000 that an organization has to go through. 864 00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:53,200 Now the fans and everybody else, all right, T-Mac leaves, 865 00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:55,120 what happens to us? 866 00:37:55,150 --> 00:37:58,130 [dramatic music] 867 00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:05,190 Fortunately for us the next year, we 868 00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:07,220 play the New York Knicks again. 869 00:38:08,010 --> 00:38:10,040 And we were able to win that series, 870 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:12,090 and we closed it out on their court, which was crazy. 871 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,030 PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER 4: The game is over. 872 00:38:14,060 --> 00:38:18,110 The Toronto Raptors coming in, and in only their second year, 873 00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:20,040 making the playoffs. 874 00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:21,070 RACHEL NICHOLS: The fact that they were able to come back 875 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:22,220 the next year. 876 00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:24,080 And I really think it says something about Vince Carter 877 00:38:24,110 --> 00:38:26,000 that you're playing the same opponent, 878 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:28,120 you're put back in the same situation at Madison Square 879 00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:30,030 Garden, and they got it done. 880 00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:32,110 You have to put past the historic moment 881 00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:33,200 and the big win. 882 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:35,160 Now it's a whole new challenge. 883 00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:37,210 It's the next round, It's a little tougher, because you're 884 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,100 playing a better team. 885 00:38:39,130 --> 00:38:41,000 MARV ALBERT: Here in Philadelphia, 886 00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:43,140 we're getting ready before the 76ers and the Raptors. 887 00:38:43,170 --> 00:38:46,120 It's Game 1 of the best of 7, a match-up of Allen Iverson 888 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:47,170 and Vince Carter. 889 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,040 Whatever AI was doing for his team, 890 00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:52,190 I needed to do for my team but better. 891 00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:55,190 When you talk about Vince and AI in that playoff series, 892 00:38:55,220 --> 00:38:57,190 it was just one of those TV moments. 893 00:38:57,220 --> 00:39:03,000 AI was by far one of the most gifted scores. 894 00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:04,140 He was their leader. 895 00:39:04,170 --> 00:39:07,040 And there's another situation of a guy understanding 896 00:39:07,070 --> 00:39:11,120 that he's the man, and his ability to score was needed. 897 00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:18,150 Definitely a war, obviously, because it came down to Game 7. 898 00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:24,110 So it was tough for us in Toronto. 899 00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:25,150 It was tough for them in Philly. 900 00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:28,110 If you love basketball, that series 901 00:39:28,140 --> 00:39:30,010 was what you wanted to see-- 902 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,090 Allen Iverson with just everything about the playground 903 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,050 coming out in that series. 904 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,210 And then Vince Carter with just the spectacular athleticism. 905 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,080 And the way he moved, and you saw it in that series, 906 00:39:43,110 --> 00:39:46,070 it's just like he's lightning all over the court. 907 00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,000 And they're going back and forth, 908 00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:50,180 and the fact that that series got to a game 7 is perfect. 909 00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:52,060 We felt like we can go out there 910 00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:54,170 and compete and win the series. 911 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,190 Getting to Game 7, that's where the pressure was. 912 00:39:57,220 --> 00:40:00,000 We got to figure out a way to have one more 913 00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:02,120 point than this team to move on to the Eastern 914 00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:04,060 Conference Final. 915 00:40:04,090 --> 00:40:07,010 Now, with me, I made a little tougher, because, that morning, 916 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,140 I chose to graduate from college. 917 00:40:12,110 --> 00:40:13,030 My favorite people. 918 00:40:13,060 --> 00:40:13,200 WOMAN: Mm-hmm. 919 00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:22,010 There it is. 920 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,210 My diploma. 921 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,210 It's already been a busy day for Toronto's Vince Carter. 922 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,110 Vince arrived in Chapel Hill at about 9:00 AM 923 00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:32,180 to attend his college graduation ceremony. 924 00:40:32,210 --> 00:40:34,020 VINCE CARTER: We were having a practice, 925 00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:37,050 and I went to every player on our team, 926 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,210 do you have a problem with this? 927 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,220 I got a "no, I don't have a problem with it" 928 00:40:41,010 --> 00:40:45,100 from every player on the team, management, whatever. 929 00:40:45,130 --> 00:40:53,020 Fly to North Carolina, I get to the hotel, turn on ESPN, 930 00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:55,110 all of a sudden, there's a couple of players on the team 931 00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:58,180 have now changed their story and said they 932 00:40:58,210 --> 00:41:01,090 have a problem with me going. 933 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,200 MAN 2: People said one thing, you got back, 934 00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:04,050 and they felt another way. 935 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080 You want to tell us who those people were? 936 00:41:06,110 --> 00:41:07,060 No, that's all right. 937 00:41:07,090 --> 00:41:10,000 [dramatic music] 938 00:41:10,030 --> 00:41:11,170 It's all right. 939 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,190 ERNIE JOHNSON, JR: One of the most controversial chapters 940 00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:17,010 of his career, there will be those who say, oh, 941 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,020 how can you do that? 942 00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:19,120 You can't do that to your team. 943 00:41:19,150 --> 00:41:22,000 Basketball is not who he is, it's what he does. 944 00:41:22,030 --> 00:41:27,220 Who he is the guy who said, I made my mom a promise. 945 00:41:28,010 --> 00:41:29,180 PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER 5: The Raptors will have a chance 946 00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:32,140 to win it at the buzzer. 947 00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:34,170 The play was drawn up for me to catch the ball at the top 948 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,230 of the three-point line. 949 00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:37,180 I remember Tyrone Hill denies that. 950 00:41:37,210 --> 00:41:39,170 PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER 5: Carter trying to get free. 951 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,120 VINCE CARTER: You've gone through all the repetitions, 952 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:42,170 and you've prepared for it. 953 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,070 You visualized it. 954 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,170 Now execute it. 955 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,100 PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER 5: Carter at the buzzer! 956 00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:50,140 The first half of that shot, I'm like, oh, this is good. 957 00:41:50,170 --> 00:41:51,130 This is going in. 958 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,190 I think my heart stopped. 959 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:56,040 You know what I mean? 960 00:41:56,070 --> 00:42:01,000 And it took so long for the shot to rim out. 961 00:42:01,030 --> 00:42:02,210 So I'm now I'm hoping for it to hit the back rim, 962 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,060 pop up in the air, and just fall in. 963 00:42:04,090 --> 00:42:06,080 One of those bounce, bounce, bounce, go in. 964 00:42:06,110 --> 00:42:08,100 That's what I'm praying for now. 965 00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:10,050 PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER 5: Carter trying to get free. 966 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,120 Carter at the buzzer! 967 00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:12,020 [buzzer] 968 00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:13,010 No good! 969 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,230 The Sixers hold on! 970 00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:18,070 And that's the Conference Finals! 971 00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:20,190 ALLEN IVERSON: We had Final aspirations. 972 00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:24,120 And for that shot right there to go in, 973 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:26,030 it would have been heartbreaking. 974 00:42:26,060 --> 00:42:31,100 But you flip the script, and it had to be heartbreaking 975 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:33,030 for Vince and his teammates. 976 00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:36,210 Because they got the ball in the hands of the guy 977 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,050 they wanted it. 978 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,200 You know what I mean? 979 00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:42,010 And those guys, you ask them now, they live with that. 980 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,010 We want Vince to take that shot. 981 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,000 I think they would rather had Vince 982 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:51,080 take that jumper than someone else having a layup. 983 00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:52,220 [laughs] You know what I mean? 984 00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:55,130 Because they live and die with Vince. 985 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,190 And rightfully so. 986 00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:59,030 If Vince doesn't go to graduation-- 987 00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:00,110 MAN 3: Right. 988 00:43:00,140 --> 00:43:02,040 --are you guys in the Conference Final? 989 00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:03,120 No doubt. 990 00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:05,050 That's just ludicrous. 991 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,030 For me, I never had an issue with that. 992 00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:12,190 I just thought it was a testament to his character. 993 00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:14,170 He was supposed to be celebrated for that. 994 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,110 The fact that he did that shouldn't have 995 00:43:17,140 --> 00:43:20,140 never came up with the loss. 996 00:43:20,170 --> 00:43:22,070 It should have never even been mentioned. 997 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:26,000 And for him to do something so incredible, how can you make 998 00:43:26,030 --> 00:43:28,120 something negative out of doing something 999 00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:31,040 so great, something that you wanted to do, 1000 00:43:31,070 --> 00:43:35,090 something that you dreamed about doing 1001 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,020 and something so positive? 1002 00:43:38,050 --> 00:43:40,190 As we all know, we make some, we miss some. 1003 00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:43,150 But the whole vibe of that story was 1004 00:43:43,180 --> 00:43:46,040 that he wasn't there for shootaround, 1005 00:43:46,070 --> 00:43:48,150 and that's not the reason why they lost the game. 1006 00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:50,230 VINCE CARTER: I was disappointed. 1007 00:43:51,020 --> 00:43:53,090 Let the team down. 1008 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,120 Hearing what people had to say on TV about me going, 1009 00:43:57,150 --> 00:44:01,120 about jet lag, about all of these things that like-- 1010 00:44:01,150 --> 00:44:03,140 and I'd let that creep in my mind. 1011 00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:06,160 The disappointing thing outside of all of that, 1012 00:44:06,190 --> 00:44:08,150 I felt like I didn't get enough support. 1013 00:44:08,180 --> 00:44:11,030 This is a great time to show young kids 1014 00:44:11,060 --> 00:44:13,130 how important education is. 1015 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,230 Student athlete, not athlete student. 1016 00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:20,140 It was a lot to take, but, with that being said, 1017 00:44:20,170 --> 00:44:23,100 I would say overwhelmed with pride. 1018 00:44:23,130 --> 00:44:26,080 Anyone who works that hard for their college degree 1019 00:44:26,110 --> 00:44:27,200 deserves that moment. 1020 00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:30,020 When he made that decision to go to his graduation, 1021 00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:32,210 we all was behind him. 1022 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000 Education is so important, because we 1023 00:44:36,030 --> 00:44:39,090 know that your career could be over within a second. 1024 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,210 What was lost in that story was that he got his degree 1025 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,110 from North Carolina, we would all sign up to get our degree 1026 00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:47,140 and then go to work. 1027 00:44:47,170 --> 00:44:49,070 And he had that opportunity. 1028 00:44:49,110 --> 00:44:51,120 It was just kind of like I was out there left on an island 1029 00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:54,160 by myself, which I was willing to stand tall for. 1030 00:44:54,190 --> 00:44:57,160 Trust in your decision, stick behind it. 1031 00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:58,170 And I did. 1032 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,120 And I would do it again. 1033 00:45:00,150 --> 00:45:03,110 [dramatic music] 1034 00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:10,050 Re-signing there, I remember talking with my agent, 1035 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,080 like, it was a no-brainer. 1036 00:45:12,110 --> 00:45:13,080 It's what what I wanted to do. 1037 00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:14,180 I was comfortable there. 1038 00:45:14,210 --> 00:45:16,030 BUTCH CARTER: I did call Vince and talk to him 1039 00:45:16,060 --> 00:45:18,080 about signing his extension, because I 1040 00:45:18,110 --> 00:45:21,090 wanted him to stay in Toronto. 1041 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,020 But they had overplayed him. 1042 00:45:24,050 --> 00:45:29,050 That led him to being injured. 1043 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,210 VINCE CARTER: Some injuries you get where 1044 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,140 you need surgery immediately. 1045 00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:40,040 Some injuries you can wait some weeks to see if it heals, 1046 00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:41,170 and then you kind of make your decision there. 1047 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,030 Well, with the knee, the ligament-- 1048 00:45:44,060 --> 00:45:47,180 we waited to see what was what, I ended up needing surgery. 1049 00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:52,070 Those were real injuries that he suffered. 1050 00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:55,120 And he missed the end of the season. 1051 00:45:55,150 --> 00:45:57,180 And the year after we lost to Philly 1052 00:45:57,210 --> 00:46:02,190 in the Conference Semifinals, he had surgery, I believe. 1053 00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:05,120 When I got the surgery, and my knee 1054 00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:07,220 continued to swell and swell and swell, I was like-- 1055 00:46:08,010 --> 00:46:10,060 [stammers] --people were like, man, well, he can't come back. 1056 00:46:10,090 --> 00:46:12,070 He just-- I'm like, man, you all see my knee? 1057 00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:15,030 Like, I literally had a Gatorade bottle. 1058 00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:16,230 They had to take all the fluid out, fill up 1059 00:46:17,020 --> 00:46:18,210 an entire Gatorade by the full. 1060 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,050 It wasn't done properly, so I had an infection. 1061 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,150 I'm still a young kid. 1062 00:46:23,180 --> 00:46:25,120 I'm pissed that I can't be out there to play. 1063 00:46:25,150 --> 00:46:27,070 You're talking about you're taking basketball from me. 1064 00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:29,010 Like, that's all I cared about. 1065 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,200 Like, I didn't care about anything else. 1066 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:35,030 Of course, he was angry about how he was being treated 1067 00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:37,020 and perceived in Toronto, right, and the things 1068 00:46:37,050 --> 00:46:39,150 that the public were not privy to. 1069 00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:41,220 Some errors in judgment, perhaps. 1070 00:46:42,010 --> 00:46:44,120 Like going to a concert while he's on the injured list 1071 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:46,140 and getting up on stage and dancing a little bit, 1072 00:46:46,170 --> 00:46:50,120 even though dancing a little bit is not playing basketball. 1073 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:53,000 You know, those sorts of things sort of 1074 00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:54,140 didn't reflect well on Vince. 1075 00:46:54,170 --> 00:46:57,080 And I think he got some backlash for that kind of stuff. 1076 00:46:57,110 --> 00:46:58,140 I think he's a bum. 1077 00:46:58,170 --> 00:47:00,090 I'm gonna be there to boo him. 1078 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,110 And if I could go on the court and throw a shoulder to him, 1079 00:47:02,140 --> 00:47:03,020 I'd do that, too. 1080 00:47:03,050 --> 00:47:04,060 Boo! 1081 00:47:04,090 --> 00:47:05,070 REPORTER 2: What do you think of-- 1082 00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:06,170 Vince, you suck! 1083 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,230 REPORTER 2: What do you think of Vince Carter? 1084 00:47:08,020 --> 00:47:09,010 He sucks! 1085 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,110 Yeah. 1086 00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:12,030 Thanks a lot for all your hard work, Vince. 1087 00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:14,040 It really paid off. 1088 00:47:14,070 --> 00:47:17,090 Vince went from loved to hated. 1089 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,200 He was constantly booed. 1090 00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:22,180 Raptors fans were particularly cruel. 1091 00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:24,040 GLEN GRUNWALD: That's just the nature 1092 00:47:24,070 --> 00:47:26,130 of being in the public eye and being a person 1093 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,030 that everyone is counting on. 1094 00:47:28,060 --> 00:47:32,130 And you have to understand that people 1095 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,090 are going to react to situations like that 1096 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,100 in sort of a negative fashion. 1097 00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:40,000 There's this old saying, like, your best player 1098 00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:41,230 has to be your hardest worker. 1099 00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:44,030 And Vince didn't have that reputation. 1100 00:47:44,060 --> 00:47:48,060 Vince had a reputation of the game came really easy to him, 1101 00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:51,160 and he would take the easy way out. 1102 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:55,130 But going from sort of the Mr. Perfect 1103 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,040 to getting some criticism is a bit of an adjustment. 1104 00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:03,040 And particularly when you feel like you are hurt, 1105 00:48:03,070 --> 00:48:05,080 and you're doing your best you can, and you're trying 1106 00:48:05,110 --> 00:48:06,140 to play through some pain. 1107 00:48:06,170 --> 00:48:08,060 If you haven't played this game, 1108 00:48:08,090 --> 00:48:10,170 you don't know what we go through. 1109 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,000 You don't know the bumps and bruises 1110 00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:17,020 and the punishment we take, I mean, especially back then. 1111 00:48:17,050 --> 00:48:19,070 You know, so they don't really understand 1112 00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:20,170 what a guy goes through. 1113 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,180 So, if a guy is hurt, and a guy like Vince 1114 00:48:22,210 --> 00:48:24,190 I know who loves to play the game, 1115 00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:26,130 I mean, he's not faking an injury, 1116 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,020 or he's not trying to get out of not playing. 1117 00:48:29,050 --> 00:48:30,110 You know? 1118 00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:32,030 He wants to be out there as much as anybody. 1119 00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:34,110 But a lot of times, the people, they want to judge 1120 00:48:34,140 --> 00:48:36,180 your character, your heart. 1121 00:48:36,210 --> 00:48:39,200 And that young man has a big heart. 1122 00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:44,040 It was unfortunate that it played out to where it was 1123 00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:46,220 saying that he was quitting. 1124 00:48:47,010 --> 00:48:49,090 I think one thing I read in the media 1125 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,200 was he didn't give it 100%. 1126 00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:54,040 If they just took just a moment and took 1127 00:48:54,070 --> 00:48:57,010 a step back and just got to know the real Vince, 1128 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,000 they would know how he is. 1129 00:48:59,030 --> 00:49:00,170 They would know that he always gives 1130 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:05,140 his all in everything that he does on and off the court. 1131 00:49:05,170 --> 00:49:10,050 Question my love for the game is the one that pissed 1132 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,070 me off more than anything. 1133 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:18,110 Being questioned for something you love to do was tough for me 1134 00:49:18,140 --> 00:49:19,160 to deal with. 1135 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:22,180 [electronic music] 1136 00:49:33,010 --> 00:49:36,050 As things started to change, we get Chris Bosh in now, 1137 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,200 and kind of the franchise wants to move 1138 00:49:37,230 --> 00:49:39,080 in a different direction. 1139 00:49:39,110 --> 00:49:42,030 You can feel the shift in the interests of-- when 1140 00:49:42,060 --> 00:49:43,100 I say "interests," of who they wanted 1141 00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:45,000 to be their franchise guy. 1142 00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:48,060 When it came down to that draft, 1143 00:49:48,090 --> 00:49:50,060 we needed another big guy. 1144 00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:54,000 And so I thought Chris would be, again, a good 1145 00:49:54,030 --> 00:49:59,090 complement to Vince and add some talent to our squad. 1146 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,130 The structure was extremely poor in Toronto. 1147 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,120 And, at the end of the day, it didn't work. 1148 00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:08,120 [electronic music] 1149 00:50:10,210 --> 00:50:13,200 VINCE CARTER: As Glen Grunwald's time came to an end right 1150 00:50:13,230 --> 00:50:16,050 at the end of the season, I remember having a conversation 1151 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,220 with the organization, like, hey, we're 1152 00:50:18,010 --> 00:50:19,060 gonna be looking for a new GM. 1153 00:50:19,090 --> 00:50:22,110 If you got anybody in mind, let us know, 1154 00:50:22,140 --> 00:50:24,050 and we'll go from there. 1155 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,090 JULIUS ERVING: The request came through their front office. 1156 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,100 I know Vince had something to do with it, just 1157 00:50:30,130 --> 00:50:37,050 in terms of the ownership or the management, 1158 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:42,020 wanting to get the opinion of their best player. 1159 00:50:42,050 --> 00:50:48,070 They invited me up, and when I went to Toronto-- 1160 00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:50,190 [laughs] --I was met at the airport. 1161 00:50:50,220 --> 00:50:55,020 He didn't really get to go into the facility and tour-- 1162 00:50:55,050 --> 00:50:57,090 as the process should go. 1163 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,050 They didn't appreciate the different cultures 1164 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,230 between basketball and hockey. 1165 00:51:02,020 --> 00:51:09,150 In hockey, they view players as more employees, versus the NBA, 1166 00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:13,040 I think it's a players' league, or it's a partnership, I think. 1167 00:51:13,070 --> 00:51:18,030 They felt that Vince became too big for-- 1168 00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:21,140 his role was, he's still just a player. 1169 00:51:21,170 --> 00:51:26,050 And I think by not necessarily doing all he wanted to do, 1170 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,000 in terms of the GM search, was sort of the first step. 1171 00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:30,090 I just want to play. 1172 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,030 And if you don't want me here, move me on, 1173 00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:35,040 and I'll get out of your way. 1174 00:51:35,070 --> 00:51:36,030 I don't want to be in your way. 1175 00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:37,160 I just want to play. 1176 00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:40,010 I just recall having a conversation with the coach 1177 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,150 at the time, Sam Mitchell, and I told him, 1178 00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:43,010 I don't want to leave. 1179 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,140 It was all directed at me and demanding to be-- 1180 00:51:45,170 --> 00:51:50,040 I'm like-- I had this conversation with him. 1181 00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:52,160 You hear about trade possibilities, 1182 00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:54,100 and, obviously, my agent gives me calls, 1183 00:51:54,130 --> 00:51:56,210 and he has updates because he was talking with the GM. 1184 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,060 I wasn't involved. 1185 00:51:58,090 --> 00:52:00,020 And I don't have any real inside information. 1186 00:52:00,050 --> 00:52:04,060 I remember I couldn't believe the trade they made. 1187 00:52:04,090 --> 00:52:06,010 [laughs] 1188 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,000 You got a GM to trade Vince Carter 1189 00:52:08,030 --> 00:52:10,040 for a cold six pack of beer. 1190 00:52:10,070 --> 00:52:12,060 And I remember the day it happened. 1191 00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:13,190 We're in Indiana. 1192 00:52:13,220 --> 00:52:19,140 Wake up to like 70-plus text messages, a whole bunch 1193 00:52:19,170 --> 00:52:20,140 of missed phone calls. 1194 00:52:20,170 --> 00:52:22,010 I'm like, what is going on? 1195 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,230 Your heart drops, and you're like, 1196 00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:26,170 all right, so what happens now? 1197 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,230 And I remember asking Jalen, I was 1198 00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:29,080 like, OK, what happens next? 1199 00:52:29,110 --> 00:52:31,060 He's like, well, you know, you kind of-- 1200 00:52:31,090 --> 00:52:33,190 [laughs] --he said, you kind of get your shit 1201 00:52:33,220 --> 00:52:35,180 and go onto the next team. 1202 00:52:35,210 --> 00:52:40,010 I never felt like I had the power to say-- 1203 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,150 to dictate what I could do, because they're the boss. 1204 00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:46,170 [electronic music] 1205 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,150 JULIUS ERVING: What was your first reaction 1206 00:52:57,180 --> 00:53:00,070 when you found out that now I'm going to the Nets? 1207 00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:01,180 Well, first of all, I couldn't believe it. 1208 00:53:01,210 --> 00:53:03,030 I thought it was a joke. 1209 00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:04,030 You know, I thought my family was playing 1210 00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:05,100 a joke on me and everything. 1211 00:53:05,130 --> 00:53:06,220 And once it was a reality, you know, 1212 00:53:07,010 --> 00:53:10,100 you just start thinking, OK, what do we have 1213 00:53:10,130 --> 00:53:11,170 and how can I fit in? 1214 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,020 The first thing you think of is Jason 1215 00:53:13,050 --> 00:53:15,100 Kidd and Richard Jefferson. 1216 00:53:15,130 --> 00:53:18,090 When we get Vince, I'm all excited in the summer, 1217 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,160 because now I'm like, oh, we got a chance to win. 1218 00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:22,120 VINCE CARTER: When you're traded to a new team, 1219 00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:24,200 you have new energy and new life. 1220 00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:28,170 That's just naturally. 1221 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,070 I thought we really had a chance to be successful and win 1222 00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:33,110 the East and give the Western Conference 1223 00:53:33,140 --> 00:53:34,200 a run for their money. 1224 00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:36,140 I mean, that was an incredible time watching 1225 00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:37,220 Vince play in New Jersey. 1226 00:53:38,010 --> 00:53:40,080 He had RJ, like, running the right, 1227 00:53:40,110 --> 00:53:42,160 he had Vince running the left, and J-Kidd was down the middle 1228 00:53:42,190 --> 00:53:45,070 just picking and choosing who he wanted to throw lobs to. 1229 00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:48,050 To get to play with a team-- 1230 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,000 an up-and-down fast team, play with a guy like Jason Kidd, 1231 00:53:52,030 --> 00:53:55,070 he made the game easy. 1232 00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:58,060 JASON KIDD: He was trying to feel his way to fit in. 1233 00:53:58,090 --> 00:54:01,090 And I told him, look, you fit in the day we got you. 1234 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,180 You just have to be you and do what you do best, 1235 00:54:03,210 --> 00:54:06,000 and I'll make sure I get you the ball. 1236 00:54:06,030 --> 00:54:07,000 IAN EAGLE: :03 seconds left. 1237 00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:07,210 Carter with :02 seconds. 1238 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,130 Carter for the win-- 1239 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,190 got it! 1240 00:54:10,220 --> 00:54:12,190 Vince Carter has done it! 1241 00:54:12,220 --> 00:54:14,130 PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER 6: They've been on the floor, 1242 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,060 the Nets have. 1243 00:54:16,090 --> 00:54:18,020 Warming up, the reaction has not been good for Vince Carter. 1244 00:54:18,050 --> 00:54:19,110 Why? 1245 00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:20,170 PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER 7: He flat-out told 1246 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,180 the fans he didn't try or didn't give 1247 00:54:21,210 --> 00:54:22,170 it his best when he was here. 1248 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,000 So, yes, they are bitter. 1249 00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:25,150 TIFFANY SHOLTZ: The first game that he 1250 00:54:25,180 --> 00:54:28,170 returned back to Toronto was very interesting. 1251 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,090 I was kind of nervous. 1252 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,030 PA ANNOUNCER 2: From North Carolina, 6'6" guard, 1253 00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:33,230 number 15, Vince Carter. 1254 00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:36,060 [loud boos] 1255 00:54:36,090 --> 00:54:42,000 The booing was the worst I've ever heard 1256 00:54:42,030 --> 00:54:46,150 in any sport in my entire life. 1257 00:54:46,180 --> 00:54:47,120 He was hurt. 1258 00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:48,130 I mean, who wouldn't be? 1259 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,110 What human being would not be? 1260 00:54:53,140 --> 00:54:57,080 But he gave it everything he had. 1261 00:54:57,110 --> 00:55:01,030 That's how you go on, and you do what you 1262 00:55:01,060 --> 00:55:04,080 did for the New Jersey Nets. 1263 00:55:04,110 --> 00:55:06,060 VINCE CARTER: Like, I was able to take off to next level 1264 00:55:06,090 --> 00:55:11,140 and just learn how to score in many different ways on top 1265 00:55:11,170 --> 00:55:16,020 of the abilities I had coming in to New Jersey, 1266 00:55:16,050 --> 00:55:18,230 so it was just awesome. 1267 00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:22,000 [dramatic electronic music] 1268 00:55:28,170 --> 00:55:33,030 I was traded from New Jersey to Orlando in the off-season 1269 00:55:33,060 --> 00:55:35,010 during my basketball camp. 1270 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,200 I was hosting a basketball camp in Orlando 1271 00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:40,230 and have all my kids in there, and I just 1272 00:55:41,020 --> 00:55:44,100 got finished doing a drill with every kid in the camp, one 1273 00:55:44,130 --> 00:55:46,100 on one, all that. 1274 00:55:46,130 --> 00:55:47,140 Tired, and this guy was like, yeah, 1275 00:55:47,170 --> 00:55:48,130 your brother's on the phone. 1276 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,200 Your brother's calling. 1277 00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:51,050 So I guess he called the camp director. 1278 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,180 I can't remember who he handed me the phone. 1279 00:55:52,210 --> 00:55:56,070 And he's like, bro, you heard what's going on? 1280 00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:57,060 I'm doing a camp. 1281 00:55:57,090 --> 00:55:58,150 What's going on? 1282 00:55:58,180 --> 00:56:00,220 He's like, you just got traded to Orlando. 1283 00:56:01,010 --> 00:56:02,080 That was a shock for me, you know. 1284 00:56:02,110 --> 00:56:03,100 They said, you got traded. 1285 00:56:03,130 --> 00:56:04,070 I was like, OK, great. 1286 00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,210 And I said, OK, where? 1287 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,020 And he told me back home. 1288 00:56:07,050 --> 00:56:09,210 It's just-- it's a dream come true. 1289 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,170 Vince had an opportunity to go to a team that was a playoff 1290 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,140 team in Orlando that was competing at a very high level, 1291 00:56:16,170 --> 00:56:20,190 and I thought he fit right into what they were trying to do. 1292 00:56:20,220 --> 00:56:22,090 He was a piece that could help. 1293 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,150 Once he got to Orlando, that's when the focus became let 1294 00:56:26,180 --> 00:56:31,160 me rely on creating space jump-shooting, 1295 00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:33,080 distributing the ball. 1296 00:56:33,110 --> 00:56:35,180 Because everything was built to go through Dwight Howard. 1297 00:56:35,210 --> 00:56:39,120 Here's the other thing, he came to a team that got 1298 00:56:39,150 --> 00:56:41,000 to the Finals the year prior. 1299 00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:42,140 My most successful team would definitely 1300 00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:44,040 be the Orlando Magic. 1301 00:56:44,070 --> 00:56:45,210 Every basketball player's dream who 1302 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:51,030 steps into the NBA or any league, your goal 1303 00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:52,080 is to win a championship. 1304 00:56:52,110 --> 00:56:54,190 It's all about the right opportunity. 1305 00:56:54,220 --> 00:56:57,230 Orlando might have been the one that I felt, 1306 00:56:58,020 --> 00:56:59,200 OK, we still had a chance. 1307 00:56:59,230 --> 00:57:02,110 That's when he started to expand his game a lot more is 1308 00:57:02,140 --> 00:57:05,080 when he got to Orlando, as he stepped out, 1309 00:57:05,110 --> 00:57:06,220 started taking more of a ball-handler 1310 00:57:07,010 --> 00:57:10,030 role on, starting knocking down the long ball a lot. 1311 00:57:10,060 --> 00:57:11,210 JASON KIDD: He handled his role very well 1312 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,180 and did it at a very high level. 1313 00:57:13,210 --> 00:57:15,110 He can tell you probably today that he 1314 00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:18,130 put his best foot forward to win a championship 1315 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,050 and just came up short. 1316 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,120 VINCE CARTER: We lost to the Boston Celtics in 6. 1317 00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:26,070 And they ended up playing the Lakers in the Finals again. 1318 00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:30,180 So it was just-- 1319 00:57:30,210 --> 00:57:32,200 that's when I was like, uh, I might 1320 00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:34,170 have missed my opportunity. 1321 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,230 Have we seen the best already that Vince Carter has to offer? 1322 00:57:41,020 --> 00:57:42,210 I'll tell you the biggest problem with Vince Carter. 1323 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,110 He's a nice guy. 1324 00:57:44,140 --> 00:57:47,080 I never met a great player who wasn't 1325 00:57:47,110 --> 00:57:51,160 a bit of a gruff, who would slap his mama to get a rebound. 1326 00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:53,180 Is he competitive enough? 1327 00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:55,190 He's just a guy with a ton of talent. 1328 00:57:55,220 --> 00:57:57,050 He has not pushed himself. 1329 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,070 Like I say, I just think, personally, 1330 00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,220 he's just too nice of a guy. 1331 00:58:01,010 --> 00:58:02,050 He doesn't have that edge. 1332 00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:06,050 VINCE CARTER: I got so many of them I should try to wear. 1333 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,030 These ones I should try to wear. 1334 00:58:08,060 --> 00:58:10,100 I'll think about it. 1335 00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:11,160 I like those shoes. 1336 00:58:14,190 --> 00:58:16,200 This was when I was in Jersey. 1337 00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:19,110 These are old. 1338 00:58:19,140 --> 00:58:24,030 These are my Christmas edition that I wore. 1339 00:58:24,060 --> 00:58:25,060 It's supposed to be for Christmas. 1340 00:58:25,090 --> 00:58:28,020 Magic. 1341 00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:31,160 MAN 4: But you got traded before Christmas? 1342 00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:32,070 Once I did. 1343 00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:33,120 Yeah. 1344 00:58:33,150 --> 00:58:35,050 Yeah, that year. 1345 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,160 SPORTSCASTER: We had NBA trade of the blockbuster variety. 1346 00:58:38,190 --> 00:58:40,200 Going to Phoenix, Vince Carter. 1347 00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:42,140 MIKE FRATELLO: They kind of swapped uniforms there. 1348 00:58:42,170 --> 00:58:44,040 Money was a consideration. 1349 00:58:44,070 --> 00:58:46,140 Expiring contracts a consideration. 1350 00:58:46,170 --> 00:58:47,220 VINCE CARTER: It came out of the blue. 1351 00:58:48,010 --> 00:58:48,150 Out of nowhere. 1352 00:58:51,090 --> 00:58:53,220 When it happens, you're always like, well, our team was good. 1353 00:58:54,010 --> 00:58:55,090 It's not like our team was losing. 1354 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,010 For us, in Phoenix, the year before, we 1355 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,080 got to the Conference Finals. 1356 00:58:58,110 --> 00:59:00,080 Amar'e leaves. 1357 00:59:00,110 --> 00:59:02,140 Some things change with our team. 1358 00:59:02,170 --> 00:59:06,110 And so-- and those changes weren't working. 1359 00:59:06,140 --> 00:59:13,030 And so then it was, OK, what can we do to fix things? 1360 00:59:13,060 --> 00:59:16,070 And we brought Vince in and Gortat, who 1361 00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:18,030 was his teammate in Orlando. 1362 00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:19,120 And so there's always-- 1363 00:59:19,150 --> 00:59:21,020 when it happens, you hate to see guys leave, 1364 00:59:21,050 --> 00:59:23,030 but you're excited about the possibilities. 1365 00:59:23,060 --> 00:59:24,210 VINCE CARTER: Phoenix was a tough situation, for me, 1366 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,150 I think more than anything, because that's 1367 00:59:26,180 --> 00:59:28,070 when my reserve role started. 1368 00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:29,190 It was an adjustment. 1369 00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:31,160 I think that was, for him, sort of the first time 1370 00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:34,080 now where, like, the ball's not in his hands. 1371 00:59:34,110 --> 00:59:35,170 You know? 1372 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,010 I think in Toronto, I think in New Jersey, 1373 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,020 even playing with Jason Kidd, the ball 1374 00:59:41,050 --> 00:59:42,180 was in his hands a lot. 1375 00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:45,020 He was in pick and roll, he was able to do some things. 1376 00:59:45,050 --> 00:59:46,210 And now, all of a sudden, we're in Phoenix, 1377 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,040 and the ball is in Steve Nash's hands a lot. 1378 00:59:49,070 --> 00:59:50,120 And rightfully so. 1379 00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:51,140 The first game was kind of the weirdest 1380 00:59:51,170 --> 00:59:53,120 and the most awkward for me. 1381 00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:57,070 You, as the starter, you've been a starter for all these years, 1382 00:59:57,100 --> 01:00:02,020 and to now sit there on the bench, kind of waiting 1383 01:00:02,050 --> 01:00:03,180 your turn, it was different. 1384 01:00:03,210 --> 01:00:06,160 It's a shot to the ego a little bit. 1385 01:00:06,190 --> 01:00:10,030 You say that you're willing to do whatever for a team. 1386 01:00:10,060 --> 01:00:11,160 This is putting that to the test. 1387 01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:13,080 And do you mean what you say? 1388 01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:17,120 A lot of great players can't adjust 1389 01:00:17,150 --> 01:00:19,210 to playing a different style of basketball, 1390 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,120 and they can't deviate from that. 1391 01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:26,170 But I think that's when Vince started to pivot a little bit. 1392 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,220 I went home that night, kind of sulked-- 1393 01:00:30,010 --> 01:00:32,230 [laughs] --and just tried to find my way 1394 01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:34,090 and kind of get it together. 1395 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,210 GRANT HILL: I think it really helped him accept 1396 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,050 and embrace sort of where he's at and maybe also 1397 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,170 where his future is at. 1398 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,060 And that was the toughest year out of all of them, 1399 01:00:43,090 --> 01:00:46,040 I think was Phoenix and just learning 1400 01:00:46,070 --> 01:00:48,120 how to handle that new role. 1401 01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:51,130 I think it really contributed to his longevity. 1402 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,080 GRANT HILL: I asked myself this question-- 1403 01:00:54,110 --> 01:00:57,110 does starting mean that much to you, 1404 01:00:57,140 --> 01:01:01,050 or being a closer and a finisher of a game mean more to you? 1405 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,000 I remember having a conversation with him, 1406 01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:06,090 talking about this is interesting to me. 1407 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,080 And whether it was working with some of the younger players, 1408 01:01:09,110 --> 01:01:11,160 whether it was, oh, that experience of coming 1409 01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:14,000 in off the bench and sort of how the game changes, 1410 01:01:14,030 --> 01:01:15,200 and the chemistry of a basketball game 1411 01:01:15,230 --> 01:01:17,080 changes at that moment. 1412 01:01:17,110 --> 01:01:20,060 And it struck me in the moment that he was curious 1413 01:01:20,090 --> 01:01:24,050 about other things besides being the A number one superstar who 1414 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,030 was dunking the ball, and that if he was intellectually 1415 01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:31,080 curious and excited about other parts and little folds 1416 01:01:31,110 --> 01:01:35,020 and facet of a game that you can get from being a role player. 1417 01:01:35,050 --> 01:01:38,020 That, to me, I remember back on that conversation and thinking, 1418 01:01:38,050 --> 01:01:40,080 oh, this can be interesting. 1419 01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:41,130 And it was. 1420 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,120 If you have an ego in this league, 1421 01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:44,000 it's going to get checked. 1422 01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:46,140 You know, even the greatest-- 1423 01:01:46,170 --> 01:01:48,220 Michael Jordan-- he-- 1424 01:01:49,010 --> 01:01:51,060 I mean, his ego got checked, too. 1425 01:01:51,090 --> 01:01:52,080 He needed people. 1426 01:01:52,110 --> 01:01:53,200 You know what I mean? 1427 01:01:53,230 --> 01:01:55,060 He wasn't going to be able to do it by himself. 1428 01:01:55,090 --> 01:01:57,150 LeBron had to go find some people in Miami. 1429 01:01:57,180 --> 01:02:00,070 So, no matter how great you are, you're always gonna get sick. 1430 01:02:00,100 --> 01:02:02,090 So he did it for himself. 1431 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,160 I hold Vince up now as an example 1432 01:02:04,190 --> 01:02:07,000 when I have conversations with guys 1433 01:02:07,030 --> 01:02:08,140 as they get toward the end of their career 1434 01:02:08,170 --> 01:02:10,220 about what do you want to be. 1435 01:02:11,010 --> 01:02:15,150 And I think Vince did something so fascinating by deciding, 1436 01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:17,200 what I want to be is a basketball 1437 01:02:17,230 --> 01:02:20,010 player who plays basketball. 1438 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,220 And that sounds super simple. 1439 01:02:22,010 --> 01:02:24,060 But when you are a decoration at the end of the bench 1440 01:02:24,090 --> 01:02:26,230 because you are "ring-chasing" as people like to say, 1441 01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:28,190 if you are going to the team where you think you have 1442 01:02:28,220 --> 01:02:30,210 the best chance to win that hardware, 1443 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,070 but you're really mostly just a "locker room presence" 1444 01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:36,120 or a "practice player" or something, 1445 01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:38,100 you can do that if you decide the most 1446 01:02:38,130 --> 01:02:41,230 important thing is I want to cap off my career with a ring. 1447 01:02:42,020 --> 01:02:43,030 But then you're not really playing 1448 01:02:43,060 --> 01:02:44,210 basketball in the same way. 1449 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,160 And Vince decided, I want to play. 1450 01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:50,050 [dramatic music] 1451 01:02:51,220 --> 01:02:59,110 VINCE CARTER Obviously I enjoy playing and being a starter 1452 01:02:59,140 --> 01:03:00,190 is whatever. 1453 01:03:00,220 --> 01:03:04,100 I just wanted to finish games if possible. 1454 01:03:04,130 --> 01:03:06,050 And I still got a chance to finish games. 1455 01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:18,010 At that time, it's just had to accept it and learn how to deal 1456 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,210 with it and it's tough for a lot of guys 1457 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,080 to do that and understand, like, when you played a starring role 1458 01:03:25,110 --> 01:03:28,160 for so long, and then now you're asked 1459 01:03:28,190 --> 01:03:30,140 to play a reserve role, which you're not used 1460 01:03:30,170 --> 01:03:34,160 to, being able to handle it. 1461 01:03:34,190 --> 01:03:38,090 I feel like I took it like a champ. 1462 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:46,000 I did some studying to figure out how to be consistent at it. 1463 01:03:46,030 --> 01:03:48,130 And it kept me around for another 10 years. 1464 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:54,020 I started I started getting into on the YouTube and watching, 1465 01:03:54,050 --> 01:03:58,190 like, Ginobili, Vinnie Johnson, some of the great sixth men 1466 01:03:58,220 --> 01:04:02,000 in NBA history and learn from them 1467 01:04:02,030 --> 01:04:07,030 and try to incorporate my style of play, who I am, into that. 1468 01:04:07,060 --> 01:04:07,210 And here I am. 1469 01:04:12,180 --> 01:04:15,170 [inspirational music] 1470 01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:29,090 Just give me your initial reaction 1471 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,040 to now being a part of the defending World 1472 01:04:31,070 --> 01:04:32,100 Champion Dallas Mavericks. 1473 01:04:32,130 --> 01:04:33,180 I mean, what can you say? 1474 01:04:33,210 --> 01:04:35,220 They've accomplished the ultimate goal, 1475 01:04:36,010 --> 01:04:38,020 and the next thing I know, I'm getting a phone 1476 01:04:38,050 --> 01:04:40,200 call from the Mavericks staff. 1477 01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:42,110 Wow, we get a chance to convince Carter? 1478 01:04:42,140 --> 01:04:45,140 [laughs] I mean, we definitely got to do that. 1479 01:04:45,170 --> 01:04:47,080 You know, he came to us from Phoenix, 1480 01:04:47,110 --> 01:04:49,050 where he didn't have much of a role anymore, 1481 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,080 and everybody was kind of saying he was phasing out. 1482 01:04:52,110 --> 01:04:54,150 But I think he was kind of holding back. 1483 01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:59,070 Vince came to me and asked if he could be our new sixth man. 1484 01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:03,100 The vast majority of NBA players are not 1485 01:05:03,130 --> 01:05:08,010 going to knock on your door and say, hey, coach, 1486 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,160 can I come off the bench? 1487 01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:12,040 And that's-- generally, that's not the dream. 1488 01:05:12,070 --> 01:05:16,090 He was phenomenal, and you don't often, if ever, 1489 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,200 get a guy like Vince who had been in the league 1490 01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:22,000 a long time at that point but had only been with us one year. 1491 01:05:22,030 --> 01:05:24,050 The guy was pure class here. 1492 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,030 He knew a bigger role was coming for him. 1493 01:05:29,060 --> 01:05:32,120 He came off the bench, and it was an instant offense for us. 1494 01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:34,210 He not only wanted to help the team, 1495 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,230 but he wanted to challenge himself. 1496 01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:39,220 And you know, the things that you actually 1497 01:05:40,010 --> 01:05:43,080 have to do to go from being perennial all-star 1498 01:05:43,110 --> 01:05:45,170 and a starter to being a sixth man, 1499 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,010 you've got to reprogram how you think a little bit. 1500 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,130 And I'll tell you, Vince was as good 1501 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,050 a sixth man as I've ever seen. 1502 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,230 It's the evolution of a guy embracing his role. 1503 01:05:56,020 --> 01:05:59,080 You could be a sixth man, but you can play starters minutes. 1504 01:05:59,110 --> 01:06:02,180 You know, if you're playing upwards of 30 minutes a game, 1505 01:06:02,210 --> 01:06:05,140 does it really matter if he started? 1506 01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:10,060 Vince was not only an athletic player, but he was clutch. 1507 01:06:10,090 --> 01:06:13,090 In 2014, you know, we're playing the Spurs, 1508 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,160 and Dallas, San Antonio is a big rivalry. 1509 01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:18,050 That play that we ran against the San Antonio Spurs 1510 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,000 that night, we've run 100 times probably, 1511 01:06:21,030 --> 01:06:22,190 and it never really worked. 1512 01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:25,020 Right before we were walking out, 1513 01:06:25,050 --> 01:06:27,140 Coach Carlisle comes to me. 1514 01:06:27,170 --> 01:06:30,140 He's like, hey, you might get this ball. 1515 01:06:30,170 --> 01:06:31,200 Be ready. 1516 01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:34,100 We're down 2 with 1.5 seconds left, 1517 01:06:34,130 --> 01:06:38,020 and we had a play that we had worked on where Vince 1518 01:06:38,050 --> 01:06:40,020 would peel off to the corner. 1519 01:06:40,050 --> 01:06:42,010 That's a tough place to play and to make 1520 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,230 a play with short time because we've 1521 01:06:44,020 --> 01:06:45,110 got to turn around all the way. 1522 01:06:45,140 --> 01:06:49,040 Pump fake just to get him up, and then shoot it. 1523 01:06:49,070 --> 01:06:50,160 And leave it up there with confidence. 1524 01:06:50,190 --> 01:06:52,110 ANNOUNCER: He got to the ball. 1525 01:06:52,140 --> 01:06:53,050 [cheering] 1526 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:53,190 ANNOUNCER: Yes! 1527 01:06:53,220 --> 01:06:55,100 Yes! 1528 01:06:55,130 --> 01:06:57,210 Do you believe it? 1529 01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:58,230 The starter. 1530 01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:07,000 To see that shot go in was unreal, 1531 01:07:07,030 --> 01:07:09,160 you know, because I date back to 2001. 1532 01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:11,010 ANNOUNCER: Carter at the buzzer. 1533 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:11,160 [cheering] 1534 01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:13,160 End game! 1535 01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:16,210 12 years later, I get the opportunity, again, finally 1536 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,030 to redeem myself for me. 1537 01:07:20,060 --> 01:07:22,080 It was one of the most exhilarating 1538 01:07:22,110 --> 01:07:24,020 moments I've had as a coach. 1539 01:07:24,050 --> 01:07:26,230 And for him, for him to have that moment 1540 01:07:27,020 --> 01:07:31,070 in a playoff series like that, it was just phenomenal. 1541 01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:33,200 It almost seemed like the tougher the shot, the more easy 1542 01:07:33,230 --> 01:07:38,020 he made it look, and that's why he's one of the greats. 1543 01:07:47,030 --> 01:07:49,040 Every time I receive knowledge, 1544 01:07:49,070 --> 01:07:51,150 I was able to incorporate it into my game 1545 01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:55,170 and could see positive things happening. 1546 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,100 You know, I had Charles Oakley who played with Michael Jordan. 1547 01:07:58,130 --> 01:08:01,150 I had Kevin Wilson who played with Dominique Wilkins. 1548 01:08:01,180 --> 01:08:03,150 I had Dee Brown who played with Larry Bird. 1549 01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:06,180 I had Doug Christie who played with Magic Johnson. 1550 01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:09,170 Those are some of the elite of the elite that has played 1551 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,190 this game that these guys who have played with 1552 01:08:11,220 --> 01:08:14,190 can share knowledge with me of how they watch them 1553 01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:16,090 operate on and off the court. 1554 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,190 Just want to come out here and show some 1555 01:08:17,220 --> 01:08:19,170 of my support for, of course, the rookies 1556 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:23,190 that we had last year and then for the new guys. 1557 01:08:23,220 --> 01:08:26,080 For me, it was a goal to come out and get myself 1558 01:08:26,110 --> 01:08:29,070 in shape and just, you know, practice with these guys 1559 01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:31,040 and just give them as much knowledge as I can. 1560 01:08:31,070 --> 01:08:34,090 If it wasn't for me playing 20-plus years, 1561 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,150 a lot of coaches wouldn't allow me to be the player 1562 01:08:36,180 --> 01:08:38,040 coach and have a voice. 1563 01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:40,230 I'm very appreciative that these young guys-- 1564 01:08:41,020 --> 01:08:43,060 you know, obviously, they view me 1565 01:08:43,090 --> 01:08:45,120 as a teammate like anyone else. 1566 01:08:45,150 --> 01:08:49,160 But they know I've been around, and they value my knowledge. 1567 01:08:49,190 --> 01:08:53,180 And they allow me to share and help 1568 01:08:53,210 --> 01:08:55,090 whenever the time is right. 1569 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,010 It was like having two coaches. 1570 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,140 You know, a lot of times, when games he wasn't playing, 1571 01:08:58,170 --> 01:09:02,000 you see him up on the bench, telling guys, really, 1572 01:09:02,030 --> 01:09:03,170 you should be here, be there, just giving him 1573 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,090 different type of information, the things 1574 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,060 that they can use to help them. 1575 01:09:08,090 --> 01:09:10,120 He was just trying to do what he could 1576 01:09:10,150 --> 01:09:14,120 do or give whatever he could give to help his teammates win. 1577 01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:18,220 This is one of two things that I'm proud of. 1578 01:09:19,010 --> 01:09:21,100 I won the Twyman-Stokes award. 1579 01:09:21,130 --> 01:09:23,150 So basically, it's the Teammate of the Year Award, 1580 01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:26,110 and you're voted by your peers, you 1581 01:09:26,140 --> 01:09:28,050 know, players around the NBA, not 1582 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,130 just your current team but all players involved in this award. 1583 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:38,180 And I won it, and I view this at the same level, in my opinion, 1584 01:09:38,210 --> 01:09:40,110 as a MVP. 1585 01:09:40,140 --> 01:09:45,020 Vince had just the humility and the perspective 1586 01:09:45,050 --> 01:09:48,180 and the desire to be in this game that led him to be 1587 01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:52,000 able to play a role, that led him to be able to go to Memphis 1588 01:09:52,030 --> 01:09:54,110 or Sacramento or Atlanta. 1589 01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:57,100 He just wanted it to, you know, not just 1590 01:09:57,130 --> 01:09:59,120 keep his career going but to do it 1591 01:09:59,150 --> 01:10:01,010 in a way that was meaningful. 1592 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,190 And that's meant mentoring younger players, 1593 01:10:03,220 --> 01:10:07,140 setting an example in terms of his daily work ethic, 1594 01:10:07,170 --> 01:10:10,140 passing along what he knows. 1595 01:10:10,170 --> 01:10:13,080 It just speaks to Vince's generous spirit, I think, 1596 01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:15,120 as a player and as a man. 1597 01:10:15,150 --> 01:10:18,210 There's no player that I'd rather 1598 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,120 have around all these young kids today to mentor. 1599 01:10:22,150 --> 01:10:24,130 I think that's the best thing he can 1600 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:28,080 do the last few years because you want 1601 01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:30,040 to emulate him as a player. 1602 01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:33,130 But the main thing, you want to emulate him as a person. 1603 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,080 There have been a few times in the last few years 1604 01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:37,200 I thought, well, I wonder if this is it for Vince? 1605 01:10:37,230 --> 01:10:42,100 And then he still shows up, and he still hit shots. 1606 01:10:42,130 --> 01:10:45,210 You know, the game has changed, but, every now and then, 1607 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,210 he'll give you a little glimpse. 1608 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,120 You know, he'll get up, and we'll go, wow. 1609 01:10:50,150 --> 01:10:53,080 When it comes to the humility that it takes 1610 01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:57,000 to be a 22-year player, every year, 1611 01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:58,100 he's playing fewer minutes. 1612 01:10:58,130 --> 01:10:59,170 He's putting up fewer more points. 1613 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,100 His averages are low. 1614 01:11:01,130 --> 01:11:03,150 It's dragging down his career averages to the point where 1615 01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:05,060 it's like, oh, well, he didn't even average 20 1616 01:11:05,090 --> 01:11:06,080 points a game for his career. 1617 01:11:06,110 --> 01:11:07,210 What are we talking about? 1618 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,020 Well, it's because he tacked on seven, eight, nine 1619 01:11:10,050 --> 01:11:11,120 years at the end that a lot of guys 1620 01:11:11,150 --> 01:11:13,180 wouldn't have hung out for. 1621 01:11:13,210 --> 01:11:15,120 He didn't care about his career averages. 1622 01:11:15,150 --> 01:11:19,150 He didn't care what that would do to some statistical, you 1623 01:11:19,180 --> 01:11:23,070 know, box on a website. 1624 01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:26,130 He understood that there was another purpose for him 1625 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,200 to stick around this game. 1626 01:11:27,230 --> 01:11:29,010 There was a value to it. 1627 01:11:37,230 --> 01:11:41,030 I worked so hard to be in shape 1628 01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:43,160 and then play this game to compete against young guys 1629 01:11:43,190 --> 01:11:50,050 half my age, so I wanted to go out playing the game. 1630 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,230 I think sitting on the end of the bench, 1631 01:11:52,020 --> 01:11:55,070 not being able to be a part of this is-- 1632 01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:57,120 you know, that would kill me more than anything. 1633 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,090 I've obviously been the same age as Vince 1634 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,210 at the end of his career and knowing 1635 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,130 it's the end of his career. 1636 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,030 When we first got him the first year, you know, part of me 1637 01:12:14,060 --> 01:12:16,050 thought that was going to be his last season 1638 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,070 and what a special moment it would 1639 01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:21,020 be to have Vince in his last season 1640 01:12:21,050 --> 01:12:22,120 with a really young team. 1641 01:12:22,150 --> 01:12:24,010 And he understood the role. 1642 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,000 We talked about the role of leadership and guidance. 1643 01:12:28,180 --> 01:12:30,040 Sure enough, when the season started, 1644 01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:32,060 he had to start for us at the four. 1645 01:12:32,090 --> 01:12:38,070 Trey was starting at age 20, I believe, and Vince was age 41. 1646 01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:41,140 And so that was the biggest gap, 21 years of age, 1647 01:12:41,170 --> 01:12:46,120 between starters on the starting lineup, so it just kind of-- it 1648 01:12:46,150 --> 01:12:51,100 showed for me how valuable Vince was when we brought him in 1649 01:12:51,130 --> 01:12:54,130 but also how special he is as a player 1650 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,010 to still be able to play, still be able to be 1651 01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,110 included as a starter. 1652 01:12:58,140 --> 01:13:00,120 Vince has been in the league 20-plus years. 1653 01:13:00,150 --> 01:13:02,130 He's past that vet point. 1654 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,070 He's a OG. 1655 01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:07,130 Everything he says, it's like, you know, he's been through it. 1656 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,060 Like, you listen to the OGs. 1657 01:13:10,090 --> 01:13:12,230 You want to be in their shoes because he's talking 1658 01:13:13,020 --> 01:13:14,070 just as much as the coaches. 1659 01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:15,170 Vince is always the first one-- 1660 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,120 especially on our home games, he's always 1661 01:13:18,150 --> 01:13:19,210 the first one on the court. 1662 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,080 He's always the first one. 1663 01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:23,010 His routine, his vitamin, his shooting routine 1664 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,030 is he's always the first guy before the young guys go. 1665 01:13:26,060 --> 01:13:27,210 The Toronto Raptors were in the NBA Finals 1666 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,020 the year before Vince retired, and he has been a guest analyst 1667 01:13:31,050 --> 01:13:33,100 on the Jump on our show for the playoffs 1668 01:13:33,130 --> 01:13:35,050 for the previous five years. 1669 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,220 So we've had him at all of these NBA Finals sites 1670 01:13:38,010 --> 01:13:41,080 through the years, and this time the NBA Finals were in Toronto. 1671 01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:43,220 And there was some question about, was he going to come up? 1672 01:13:44,010 --> 01:13:45,160 There has been some back and forth with him 1673 01:13:45,190 --> 01:13:48,110 and the Toronto fan base over the years at different times. 1674 01:13:48,140 --> 01:13:51,230 But to Vince's credit, he was all in to come, 1675 01:13:52,020 --> 01:13:56,220 and we had him on a stage outside in that Jurassic park 1676 01:13:57,010 --> 01:14:00,060 fan area with him, myself, and Tracy McGrady. 1677 01:14:00,090 --> 01:14:01,070 This is dedication out here. 1678 01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:02,080 I mean, it's raining. 1679 01:14:02,110 --> 01:14:03,050 Yeah, it's not warm. 1680 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:03,230 It's a little chilly. 1681 01:14:04,020 --> 01:14:05,150 Exactly. 1682 01:14:05,180 --> 01:14:08,180 But there out here because they want to witness history. 1683 01:14:08,210 --> 01:14:10,120 And to have him have that moment 1684 01:14:10,150 --> 01:14:13,210 with the screaming Toronto fans in the rain, 1685 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,200 it was crazy out there. 1686 01:14:15,230 --> 01:14:18,150 It felt very special to me that, even though he didn't get 1687 01:14:18,180 --> 01:14:21,110 that final lap playing in Toronto, 1688 01:14:21,140 --> 01:14:23,050 that he was there with the people. 1689 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,160 I almost think that that was a better moment, at least for me, 1690 01:14:26,190 --> 01:14:28,130 as someone who watched him throughout his career, 1691 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,200 to see him connect with everybody in that way 1692 01:14:30,230 --> 01:14:32,180 and especially to be there with T-Mac 1693 01:14:32,210 --> 01:14:36,010 felt like really just everything came full circle. 1694 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:36,210 "He hates Toronto. 1695 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,100 He had no luck." 1696 01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:40,200 So far from the truth, so far from the truth. 1697 01:14:40,230 --> 01:14:44,010 I still have business in Toronto, 1698 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:49,000 so not wanting to be there and didn't appreciate my time? 1699 01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:51,090 Never, never. 1700 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,230 Definitely appreciate it. 1701 01:14:53,020 --> 01:14:54,110 I still appreciate some of the people that are there. 1702 01:14:54,140 --> 01:14:58,060 Still talk to him to this day, in the organization 1703 01:14:58,090 --> 01:14:59,110 and around the city. 1704 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,050 That's a big point of conversation 1705 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,210 that day is, you know, what's going on with the league? 1706 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,040 What's going on with the virus? 1707 01:15:17,070 --> 01:15:18,090 What's next? 1708 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,020 The owners, organization in general, 1709 01:15:20,050 --> 01:15:22,120 we're all in the locker room, talking about the scenarios. 1710 01:15:22,150 --> 01:15:26,040 If this happens, if somebody tests positive, 1711 01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:27,120 what would happen? 1712 01:15:27,150 --> 01:15:28,120 We're leaving the locker room, and we're 1713 01:15:28,150 --> 01:15:30,120 about to break the huddle. 1714 01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:33,030 And I said, hey, you know, this could 1715 01:15:33,060 --> 01:15:35,060 be our last game without fans. 1716 01:15:35,090 --> 01:15:36,140 That was my message. 1717 01:15:36,170 --> 01:15:38,180 This could be our last game without fans. 1718 01:15:38,210 --> 01:15:43,160 And Dewayne Dedmon, without missing a beat, says, 1719 01:15:43,190 --> 01:15:46,230 this could be Vince's last game without fans. 1720 01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:51,040 We're coming out to halftime to shoot, and OP comes up to us 1721 01:15:51,070 --> 01:15:53,170 and just tells us, tells me and Vince, 1722 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,000 that the season's probably get canceled, 1723 01:15:56,030 --> 01:15:59,210 that the Thunder and the Jags game just got canceled. 1724 01:16:00,020 --> 01:16:02,060 Coach Pierce says, you heard about what 1725 01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:03,110 happened to Rudy Gobert? 1726 01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:05,040 He's like, he tested positive. 1727 01:16:05,070 --> 01:16:07,020 And now we know something's going on, 1728 01:16:07,050 --> 01:16:09,130 and we understand, this is probably it for us. 1729 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,140 We still have a second half to play, try to get back 1730 01:16:12,170 --> 01:16:13,180 in this game, get us a win. 1731 01:16:13,210 --> 01:16:15,150 We're still focused on the game, so, 1732 01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:17,210 like, we're so far behind we don't 1733 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,080 even understand what the world's talking 1734 01:16:20,110 --> 01:16:22,080 about and going through. 1735 01:16:22,110 --> 01:16:24,140 And it'd get to about the fourth quarter, midway 1736 01:16:24,170 --> 01:16:27,150 in the fourth quarter, Dewayne Dedmon leans over to me, 1737 01:16:27,180 --> 01:16:31,090 and he's like, you know this might be your last game? 1738 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,110 Damn, you know what? 1739 01:16:33,140 --> 01:16:35,090 This might, like-- this might be it. 1740 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,070 Fans are starting to chant, like, we want Vince. 1741 01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:38,040 We want Vince. 1742 01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:39,050 CROWD: We want Vince! 1743 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,170 We want Vince! 1744 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,210 We just started hearing, "Vince, Vince, Vince," 1745 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,120 from the fans. 1746 01:16:44,150 --> 01:16:46,130 And everyone's chanting to get Vince back in the game. 1747 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,010 It hasn't even crossed my mind. 1748 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,160 DeAndre was like, ah, we want Vince. 1749 01:16:49,190 --> 01:16:50,130 Like, Oh, hey, Vince. 1750 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,200 Sit down. 1751 01:16:51,230 --> 01:16:52,190 Chill out. 1752 01:16:52,220 --> 01:16:53,230 Let's get this over with. 1753 01:16:54,020 --> 01:16:55,050 I don't think he wanted to go in. 1754 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,050 I think the crowd chanting, "We want 1755 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,120 Vince," kind of persuaded the whole Vince 1756 01:17:01,150 --> 01:17:03,080 and LP to put him in. 1757 01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:08,070 And made eye contact with LP, and he looked at me. 1758 01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:10,060 And I turned, and I look at the bench. 1759 01:17:10,090 --> 01:17:13,030 I look down at the bench, and all of the guys 1760 01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:16,180 are basically tugging at and pointing that Vince 1761 01:17:16,210 --> 01:17:18,090 and telling him to get up. 1762 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,170 But he looked at me, and he was kind of like, go in. 1763 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,090 And it's just like-- 1764 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:26,060 everything changed that fast in an instant. 1765 01:17:26,090 --> 01:17:27,150 [crowd] 1766 01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:29,230 ANNOUNCER: And they're going to put him in. 1767 01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:32,130 From that point, it was just kind of like, what's going on? 1768 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,220 Like, this might be it. 1769 01:17:34,010 --> 01:17:36,120 For me, a lot of things ran through my mind. 1770 01:17:36,150 --> 01:17:38,000 I mean, I was thinking about my season 1771 01:17:38,030 --> 01:17:39,230 being over with at the same time. 1772 01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:42,060 I had a guy right to my next to me 1773 01:17:42,090 --> 01:17:46,130 that this could be the last time ever playing an NBA game. 1774 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,020 And then I remember Trey said, hey, we're going to get you-- 1775 01:17:49,050 --> 01:17:50,130 you're going to take the last shot. 1776 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,200 I'm like, all right, cool, whatever, whatever, 1777 01:17:51,230 --> 01:17:53,020 because I'm still processing. 1778 01:17:53,050 --> 01:17:54,110 And I hear them, and I understand it. 1779 01:17:54,140 --> 01:17:56,030 But I was like, all right, cool, whatever. 1780 01:17:56,060 --> 01:17:58,090 New York kind of knows we're running the shot for Vince 1781 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,090 anyways, but, in the event that they 1782 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,180 didn't, we had something there. 1783 01:18:02,210 --> 01:18:04,070 And Trey did exactly that. 1784 01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:05,120 He drove it. 1785 01:18:05,150 --> 01:18:06,130 Three guys collapsed on him, and he 1786 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,070 just pitched it back to Vince. 1787 01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:11,100 And in a classic Vince moment, he steps right in off the bench 1788 01:18:11,130 --> 01:18:15,050 and played the last 15 minutes, and he drains the 3. 1789 01:18:16,170 --> 01:18:17,080 ANNOUNCER: And that's what they're going to do. 1790 01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:18,010 Carter for 3. 1791 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:18,160 Get in there. 1792 01:18:18,190 --> 01:18:21,040 [cheering] 1793 01:18:21,070 --> 01:18:22,160 ANNOUNCER: Unbelievable. 1794 01:18:22,190 --> 01:18:26,150 What an appropriate play to finish 1795 01:18:26,180 --> 01:18:28,190 for the great Vince Carter. 1796 01:18:28,220 --> 01:18:33,040 Thankfully it went in, and it was just a great moment. 1797 01:18:33,070 --> 01:18:36,010 You know, and I was able to walk off, and it was kind of like, 1798 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:36,230 all right. 1799 01:18:37,020 --> 01:18:38,070 I made the last shot. 1800 01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:42,060 So the ending is there if need be. 1801 01:18:42,090 --> 01:18:43,190 It was a crazy moment. 1802 01:18:43,220 --> 01:18:46,010 I was-- I'm going to be able to tell my kids someday 1803 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,130 that I gave Vince Carter his last bucket in NBA, 1804 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,100 so that's something I'll never forget. 1805 01:18:51,130 --> 01:18:54,000 But I thought it was a great moment, not only for him. 1806 01:18:54,030 --> 01:18:58,120 Who knew at the time that that would really be his last game, 1807 01:18:58,150 --> 01:19:00,220 but what a great ending to a career 1808 01:19:01,010 --> 01:19:02,230 and what a great moment for the fans. 1809 01:19:03,020 --> 01:19:04,160 And I think the reason that moment 1810 01:19:04,190 --> 01:19:06,170 struck such a chord with everyone 1811 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,130 was it was completely organic. 1812 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,150 It wasn't some big hoopla organized celebration. 1813 01:19:11,180 --> 01:19:13,150 It was just the people in that building 1814 01:19:13,180 --> 01:19:17,070 who knew how important Vince Carter was to the game 1815 01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:20,090 and that this moment must be respected 1816 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,230 and that being just natural. 1817 01:19:39,090 --> 01:19:41,220 It feels like I've been retired for about a year 1818 01:19:42,010 --> 01:19:49,210 or so because of my internal clock and how things have 1819 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,220 operated for 20-plus years. 1820 01:19:53,010 --> 01:19:54,180 Most guys, you can put markers. 1821 01:19:54,210 --> 01:19:59,030 With Vince, it's just like he lived this NBA life, 1822 01:19:59,060 --> 01:20:01,140 and you almost have to look in retrospect 1823 01:20:01,170 --> 01:20:04,090 and say, oh, so this is what he-- like, 1824 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,020 this is what he was in this period. 1825 01:20:06,050 --> 01:20:10,230 But it was just this natural conversion of who he was 1826 01:20:11,020 --> 01:20:12,160 over the course of his career. 1827 01:20:12,190 --> 01:20:14,120 I did not think it was going to last. 1828 01:20:14,150 --> 01:20:15,160 Like, I just didn't. 1829 01:20:15,190 --> 01:20:17,000 I didn't think he was going to-- 1830 01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:18,140 guy was going to play two decades. 1831 01:20:18,170 --> 01:20:20,070 Never, never. 1832 01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:22,000 When people think of me, you know, 1833 01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:23,220 they're going to think of dunking. 1834 01:20:24,010 --> 01:20:26,020 So when I'm asked about what I want people to remember 1835 01:20:26,050 --> 01:20:29,090 is of my legacy, I will talk about the dunking 1836 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,110 because I know that's going to take care of itself anyway. 1837 01:20:31,140 --> 01:20:33,040 [laughs] 1838 01:20:33,070 --> 01:20:36,050 You know, he just wanted to show people that his game was 1839 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,180 on the ground as well as in air and that he could 1840 01:20:38,210 --> 01:20:42,030 be this fundamentally sound player who could do it all, 1841 01:20:42,060 --> 01:20:43,080 and he did. 1842 01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:45,000 Vince Carter keeps the game pure. 1843 01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:49,020 He filters it, and he doesn't allow the negative things 1844 01:20:49,050 --> 01:20:50,070 to fall through. 1845 01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:51,230 That takes a lot. 1846 01:20:52,020 --> 01:20:54,040 To carry the league, which he did, 1847 01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:57,160 and then mentor guys who couldn't carry his shoes 1848 01:20:57,190 --> 01:21:01,040 at times, that takes a real humility, 1849 01:21:01,070 --> 01:21:03,000 and I admire him for that. 1850 01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:06,140 Whether it's seeing him working on his broadcast career 1851 01:21:06,170 --> 01:21:10,130 or knowing the time and effort that he's put in to maintain 1852 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:17,140 his athleticism, my view of him has changed dramatically, 1853 01:21:17,170 --> 01:21:21,050 and I think what makes it most authentic is that Vince wasn't 1854 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,060 trying to persuade anybody. 1855 01:21:24,090 --> 01:21:25,190 He never made a concerted effort like, 1856 01:21:25,220 --> 01:21:28,130 I'm going to change your view of who I am. 1857 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,000 I'm just going to continue to be who I am, 1858 01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:32,210 and then, eventually, you'll get it. 1859 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,170 So Vince, I got. 1860 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,230 To tell a guy who's been as great as Vince or Karl Malone 1861 01:21:40,020 --> 01:21:43,220 or Patrick Ewing or myself that your life sucks 1862 01:21:44,010 --> 01:21:48,060 because you didn't win a couple more basketball game, I think-- 1863 01:21:48,090 --> 01:21:49,190 first of all, I think it's stupid. 1864 01:21:49,220 --> 01:21:53,030 And for him to maintain his excellence for this long 1865 01:21:53,060 --> 01:21:54,200 is incredible. 1866 01:21:54,230 --> 01:21:56,220 That's what makes him special. 1867 01:21:57,010 --> 01:21:58,140 Nobody who's made it to the NBA 1868 01:21:58,170 --> 01:22:02,040 didn't spend how many hours on the court, sometimes 1869 01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:04,090 after the sun goes down when they were supposed to be home 1870 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,070 already, just getting in a few more shots, 1871 01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:07,190 "I just want to play a little bit more", 1872 01:22:07,220 --> 01:22:10,160 when no one was watching when they're 11 years old. 1873 01:22:10,190 --> 01:22:13,190 And Vince, to me, epitomized toward the end of his career 1874 01:22:13,220 --> 01:22:16,220 that I just want to-- just let me get a few more shots out. 1875 01:22:17,010 --> 01:22:18,160 That's a love of the game, man. 1876 01:22:18,190 --> 01:22:23,160 My favorite thing about Vince Carter is who he is as a man. 1877 01:22:23,190 --> 01:22:27,140 It's who he is as a person, who he is as a friend, 1878 01:22:27,170 --> 01:22:31,230 Who he is as a family member. 1879 01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:36,050 Everything that he stands for would be a great man 1880 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,210 on and off the basketball court, Hall 1881 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:43,170 of Fame player, indeed, but definitely a Hall of Fame man. 1882 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,170 Am I a sure-fire Hall of Famer? 1883 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,200 Ah, you know, I hope so. 1884 01:22:47,230 --> 01:22:49,080 I would love to be in the Hall of Fame. 1885 01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:52,110 If I do have that opportunity, it would probably 1886 01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:54,160 be as a Toronto Raptor. 1887 01:22:54,190 --> 01:22:56,230 I want people to see me more than just a dunker. 1888 01:22:57,020 --> 01:22:58,160 I want you to realize that I have-- 1889 01:22:58,190 --> 01:23:02,080 it's more to me and my game than just my ability to dunk. 1890 01:23:02,110 --> 01:23:05,050 That's the mentality I created. 1891 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,160 That's just how I've gone about it and learned, 1892 01:23:07,190 --> 01:23:09,000 and that's what I expect of myself. 1893 01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:10,060 If you're going to wear the uniform, 1894 01:23:10,090 --> 01:23:12,170 you want to go out there and compete. 1895 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,210 It was about fulfilling the love that I 1896 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,210 still have inside for the game.