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solemn music

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You got two 20-grain        
        federal .44 Magnums,

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a six-inch barrel .44 Magnum.

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These are not lead bullets.

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Could use a four-inch barrel.   
      We're not gonna do that.

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We're gonna give it        
           the real thing.

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Uh, just in case this doesn't   
   go right, there's my car keys.

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Okay. [chuckles]

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Uh, check the cylinder       
          of the gun here.

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-[chamber spinning]        
       -Feel like Matt Dillon.

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[sighs]

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And a lot of people think I'm   
   kind of stupid for doing this,

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but if it's just one knucklehead 
              out there

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that this will make        
         the difference to,

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one guy sees this and says,

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"Yeah, maybe I will        
         get one of those,"

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then it's worth it.

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Easy as pie, guys.

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[gunshot]

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soft music

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There's an arms race going on.

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It's not a recent thing.

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It's been going on         
     for over 500 million years.

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[roaring]

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Fish would have armor on them.

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Other fish have          
     sharper teeth, stronger jaws.

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The first fish develops      
           thicker armor.

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Goes back and forth,        
           back and forth.

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You have the Homo sapiens        
             on the Earth.

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They'd have crude body armor   
      made out of vines and stuff.

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They'd try to weave up      
             a little bit.

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You know, put some turtle shells 
        or clamshells in there.

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And sharp sticks would      
      bounce off a little better.

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Then the other side,

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[imitates air whooshing]      
      bows and arrows go through.

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[arrows whooshing]

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And the other side comes back   
         with steel plate armor

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-and chain mail armor.      
          -[armor clanging]

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And it goes back and forth

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and back and forth         
         and back and forth.

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And for just a little sliver    
             of history,

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I was on the leading edge of it.

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[Ramin Bahrani]          
         In 500 million years,

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Richard Davis is the only man   
     to have shot himself 192 times

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in the eternal battle       
       between armor and weapons.

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Uh, no big deal.

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Ow.

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Someday I'm gonna ham it up    
     with a bag of ketchup there

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and splat out and go...      
         [imitates groaning]

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[applause]

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Can you get a zoom-in shot here?

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[Ramin]              
            As the inventor

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of the modern-day         
           bulletproof vest,

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Richard had a product to sell.

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He was a showman, businessman   
            and a filmmaker,

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creating eight hours       
             of cult movies

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that were beloved by police    
          across the country.

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Kurt, you okay, man?

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I'm okay, man.           
         He just dusted me.

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-Did you get him?         
         -I don't know, man.

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I don't know.

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[Ramin]              
             At his height,

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Richard was the king of      
     a global body armor industry.

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His company, Second Chance,

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was worth over          
          $50 million dollars.

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His vests were being worn     
          by police, military

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-and even President Bush.     
             -[applause]

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Thank you very much for sharing 
   your God-given talents with us.

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[applause]

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[Ramin]   What drew me to Richard 
        were his contradictions.

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What makes a man         
           risk his own life

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in order to save         
         thousands of people...

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...only to endanger others,

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time and again,          
          over three decades,

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ultimately putting        
      over 100,000 lives at risk?

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[grunts]

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-Ooh.               
             -[laughter]

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The purpose of what I'm trying   
 to illustrate to you here today,

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uh, is, uh, to show you,

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uh, to show you... Eh.

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Seven Mile Road. Takes me back.

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Uh, Petula Clark. [chuckles]

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Listen to the music       
      of the traffic in the city

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Worst imitation          
        of Petula Clark ever.

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[Ramin]              
        What used to be here?

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This-this used to be        
        my pizza store here.

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Way, way back,           
     uh, actually, 50 years ago.

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Fifty-one years ago.        
          My God, I'm old.

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We'd make the pizza        
           in the back there.

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First, you take the dough,

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you throw it up in the air    
            and spin around.

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Well, you don't do it       
         with your fingers.

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Everyone thinks you do it     
        with your fingertips.

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You do it with           
     the back of your knuckles.

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You put your fingertips      
     up there, put a hole in it.

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You go, flip it up.

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And, boy, I can still do that.   
              [laughs]

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[Ramin]   Richard's origin story   
              as inventor

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bizarrely started here.

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In 1970, Richard's fiancée Karen 
          went with her friend

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to deliver an order of two    
 large pepperoni and ham pizzas.

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[Karen]   We heard somebody call   
         from the back saying,

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"Bring it around the back."

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So we went. We were very naive.

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And there were five men there,

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and, um, one put          
       a machete to my throat

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and started kind of dragging us 
      back toward the backyard.

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But then another one said,

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"Let's just get the money     
              and go."

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So, we were okay.

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pensive music

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[Richard]             
           Six months later,

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the night after Apollo      
         went off to the moon,

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got a call             
      in the same general area

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for two large pepperoni and ham.

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And that's the same order     
            that Karen took

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right into the jaws        
         of a armed robbery.

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I got a six-shot .22.

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I took the revolver like this   
            and I had it

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underneath the pizza box.

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I-I see these guys        
            standing there.

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I said, "Did you guys       
             order pizza?"

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And they said,          
     "Yeah, bring it around back."

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I knew it was gonna be      
            a robbery then.

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Tallest one, he had        
 a small nickel-plated automatic

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pointed right at my head.

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I just kept watching       
       his hand there, you know.

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I see some stupid Western movies 
           sometimes say,

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"Watch the man's eyes.       
         That'll tell you."

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No. What the hell?         
        Just watch his hands.

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His hand started to move.

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I shot inside his jaw       
          and out his ear.

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Another one went          
       an inch off his heart,

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right through him,         
      right through him-- .22.

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I missed the third shot,

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and the fourth shot hit      
   the second guy in the shoulder.

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Boom, I hit him          
     right dead center in the back,

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[clicks tongue]          
          behind the heart.

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He went [blows raspberry]     
       flat down on his nose.

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Right here in this spot...

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...I defeated two men       
           in a gunfight.

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Unfortunately, I was        
     fighting three at the time.

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And the guy that I thought     
         was dead twice over

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is laying on the ground.

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He fired that .25 twice.

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Hit me in the back         
           of the left leg

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and the right side         
          of the head here.

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And then they just shot,      
              took off.

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[siren wailing]

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[Ramin]              
           Six months later,

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his two pizzerias will      
      burn down in the same night.

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There was a dispute        
         as to how it happened.

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It was definitely an arson,

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and, uh... for-for a while,    
   the policemen thought I did it.

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And I imagine people r-right--

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watching this right now      
             are saying,

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"Hey, maybe he did it,       
          maybe he did it."

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He did it for--          
        "Why would he do it?"

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"For the insurance.        
    He did it for the insurance."

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I didn't have           
      any damn insurance, okay?

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[laughs] Geez.

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[Ramin]              
              Out of work

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and with his alleyway shootout 
             fresh in mind,

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Richard focused his attention   
 on the danger he saw everywhere.

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dramatic music

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[Richard]   I kept reading stories 
 about policemen getting killed.

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And at one point in 1971,     
          around the country,

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eight cops were shot to death   
            in one weekend.

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The reason?            
         Probably narcotics

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and the lack            
      of mandatory jail terms.

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Here's the old concept      
             in body armor.

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Flak jackets.

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They have two major drawbacks.

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First, they are too stiff     
    and heavy for everyday wear.

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Second, the criminal        
          can see the armor

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and shoots             
       for the officer's head.

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[Richard]   I realized the vest   
 has got to be comfortable enough

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to wear on a daily basis,

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but nobody makes          
         anything like that.

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And I'm thinking to myself,    
 "Well, maybe somebody ought to."

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Right now...

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[Richard]             
 I got a 70-dollar roll of nylon.

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It was different 'cause it was 
       lighter than steel plates.

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No metal,             
     that's the important thing.

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I made the squares and then    
 sewed them together with an awl.

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We had to make          
      every single stitch by hand.

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He cut the seat belts       
           out of our car

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to use for shoulder straps.

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[Richard]             
             I had one year

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at the University of Michigan   
        College of Engineering.

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So, everything was        
            very scientific.

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[Ramin]              
 But how did you know it worked?

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Well, we shot it,         
          yeah, we shot it.

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Of course, yes.

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Your bullet is right there,    
       about halfway through.

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He also shot in our basement      
          of our townhouse,

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which the neighbors        
   didn't like very much. [laughs]

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So we didn't last long       
     in the townhouse. [laughs]

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[Richard]             
          People were saying,

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if you don't have         
          a steel plate there,

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the impact of the bullet     
         will shatter your ribs

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and blow a piece of        
 your sternum through your heart.

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Very least, you'll be so stunned

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you won't be able         
        to, uh, return fire,

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and the bad guy will just go    
   over and shoot you in the head.

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I didn't think          
           that was the case,

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but then again,          
         maybe they were right.

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I didn't know.

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I had a scheduled demonstration   
        at a police department.

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You know, cops are        
        very stubborn, cynical.

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"Show me.             
   Show me if this works or not."

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I decided I had to do it.

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I had to get shot on the vest.

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"We'll go out in the woods    
       somewhere and just do it.

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Or, uh, I'll do it right here,   
     if you guys d-don't mind."

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I-I thought they would say,    
      "Oh, God, no, liability."

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They said, "Yeah, go ahead."    
              [laughs]

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[sighs]

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And the cops, they go,      
       "Wow, this really works."

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They scrambled, they sent

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word over the teletypes.

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Teletype.             
     That's for you young kids.

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You never heard of that.      
              [laughs]

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A few hours after I got shot,   
       everybody knew about this.

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light music

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And I realized

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there's this window of time,

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real-world here--

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and, uh, don't quote me      
       in court or anything--

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but a cop just got shot.

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There's a few seconds there

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where he can do          
   damn near anything to that guy.

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You've been shot.         
            You're in shock.

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The guy is assaulting you.

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He shot you once.         
        Will he shoot you again?

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Yeah, they will.         
           Sometimes they do.

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anticipatory music

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[Ramin]              
        Richard got into his car

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with vests, guns and ammo,

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and drove to police departments   
          across the country.

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[Richard]   When we got an order, 
 we put the vests in pizza boxes.

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We get the vest,          
   put it in the box, seal it up.

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Off it goes.

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Bam, next morning,         
         it's in California.

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The dealers are          
         out of their minds.

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Says, "I-I can't get        
      such service like this."

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So I took every dime I made

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and I went and I found       
        a four-color printer.

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And inside,            
       talking about the vest

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and how you should wear it.

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But I put this up here.

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"Sex & Violence."

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As stupid as it is,        
     it got people's attention.

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The first question         
        they commonly asked:

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"Who's the sexy blonde       
           on the cover?"

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And I would say,

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"That's me.            
     The girl ain't bad either."

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[laughs]

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[Ramin] What did Karen       
       think about this cover?

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Oh, she-she was cool with it.

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That was the one that I kind of 
   had a problem with. [chuckles]

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[Richard]   We had a little     
       husband-wife arrangement.

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It was kind of cool.

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Whenever I'm going out      
       to be working with models,

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that morning, we'd go up...

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[laughs]

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She'd drain my bodily fluids.

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[laughs]

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She'd toss me to the bed there,

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and the tank's empty already.

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[laughs]

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Oh, yes.

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That girl's got the two      
    best-looking legs in America.

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You know how I know that?     
           I counted them.

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"Sex & Violence"         
         became an institution.

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I said to Karen, "Do you realize 
          we're doing so well,

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we can go to Kmart         
     and buy anything we want?"

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She goes, "Yeah." [laughs]

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This is redneck nirvana here.   
              [laughs]

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[Ramin]   Richard left Detroit      
          and opened a factory

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in the small blue-collar town   
            of Central Lake

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in Northern Michigan.

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He hired hundreds of people      
          who were out of work

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and became            
      the town's biggest employer.

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Richard is crazy, yes.

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[both laughing]

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A good crazy.

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[both laugh]

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People would talk about him

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coming into the shop       
            with big buckets

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of Kentucky Fried Chicken     
 and passing it out to everybody.

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[Ramin]   He was a civic leader,   
         a savior to the town.

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Out of his own pocket,

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he orchestrated          
        an annual fireworks show

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that drew tens of thousands    
             to the region.

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All these people coming in,

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going to the restaurants,     
   going to the stores, you know.

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Um, and made them aware of

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our-our little town        
          of Central Lake.

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[Ramin]   At its core, Second    
     Chance was a family business.

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Richard's wife, sister

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and father            
        all held key positions.

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00:15:42,691 --> 00:15:45,569
He even cast his mom       
          to act in his films.

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Meet Mr. Browning.

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[Ramin]              
     And when his son Matt grew up,

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he came to work for his dad.

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Our carriers and our--       
    all of our concealer panels.

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[Ramin]   Richard bought       
        a 600-acre plot of land

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for his home, shooting ranges   
           and lots of guns.

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[Richard]             
        This land is your land

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No, it isn't.           
     This land is my land, yes.

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Get the hell off this land.

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This land is my land

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This land is my land,      
         this land is my land

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This land is my land

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Some of the other companies,   
            my competitors,

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every day,             
    I had people lying about me,

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saying that the vest didn't work

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or some guy got killed       
          wearing our vest.

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They were saying         
            that I was dead.

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This is normal. They would    
       lie about me all the time.

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[Ramin] And, Richard,       
      describe for me a moment

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where you didn't tell the truth.

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00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:39,498
I didn't tell the truth?

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Uh, you got me there. [stammers]

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pensive music

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The truth is            
      probably the most fragile

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and elusive thing         
          in our universe.

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It can be bent, distorted,

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turned around.

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It can be destroyed.

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Police! Don't move!

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00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:15,242
Freeze!

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Don't move! Don't move.

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[assailant]            
       You got me. You got me.

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You breathe wrong,         
           I'll kill you.

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00:17:27,629 --> 00:17:28,797
You breathe            
        wrong, I'll kill you!

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00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:33,385
[Ramin] Tell me about       
     the day that you were shot.

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00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:35,804
[Aaron Westrick]          
            I was called to

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a breaking and entering      
              in progress.

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00:17:37,681 --> 00:17:39,975
The suspect's running       
      from the back of this house,

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and I went to capture him.

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00:17:42,811 --> 00:17:44,605
And, uh, I got close,

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00:17:44,646 --> 00:17:46,690
within five feet, and I could   
    see out the corner of my eye

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00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:48,942
with my flashlight         
          that he had a gun

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00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:50,778
and that he was          
     getting ready to shoot me,

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00:17:50,819 --> 00:17:52,613
and he did. [chuckles]

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And I shot him back.

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00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:55,949
Where did he shoot you?

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00:17:55,991 --> 00:17:57,701
Well, a bullet           
        went through my hand

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00:17:57,743 --> 00:18:01,038
and then lodged in my vest.

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00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,248
Second Chance Body Armor      
           saved my life.

355
00:18:03,290 --> 00:18:05,250
Next thing you know,       
     I'm talking to Richard Davis.

356
00:18:05,292 --> 00:18:06,835
He wanted to verify.

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00:18:06,877 --> 00:18:09,046
"Do you have newspaper      
        articles?" and so forth.

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00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:10,589
I told him what happened,     
            and he said,

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00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:13,300
"Sounds to me like         
           you're a save."

360
00:18:14,259 --> 00:18:15,844
When I put that armor on,     
              I feel like

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00:18:15,886 --> 00:18:17,471
it's Richard Davis        
             protecting me.

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00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:21,266
[Ramin]   Aaron Westrick       
         would arguably become

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the most consequential person   
        saved by Richard Davis.

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00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:28,357
-That's you.            
             -That's me.

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00:18:28,398 --> 00:18:30,025
soft music

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00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:33,529
[Richard]   When I first started   
           the vest, I said,

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00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:35,364
"If we save somebody,       
        I'm gonna make a list."

368
00:18:35,405 --> 00:18:38,200
Here's the name, the date,     
       the place, the weapon,

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00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:40,661
and maybe get the guy's picture 
     with a bruise and smiling.

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00:18:40,702 --> 00:18:44,331
I jokingly call myself      
         "Save zero-zero-zero."

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00:18:45,082 --> 00:18:49,002
I was realistically hoping    
 for maybe a hundred eventually.

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00:18:50,879 --> 00:18:52,631
So, uh, I was very happy     
          to be wrong on that.

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00:18:52,673 --> 00:18:54,216
We saved more than a thousand.

374
00:18:54,258 --> 00:18:55,884
Sometimes you go         
         for two or three weeks

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00:18:55,926 --> 00:18:57,344
without saving anybody,

376
00:18:57,386 --> 00:18:59,179
and I'd get like          
     a heroin addict withdrawal.

377
00:18:59,221 --> 00:19:01,807
Come on, when we gonna save    
           somebody?   [laughs]

378
00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:03,642
If I wouldn't have been      
       wearing the body armor,

379
00:19:03,684 --> 00:19:06,019
the .22 would've          
         killed me, period.

380
00:19:06,061 --> 00:19:09,189
If Chris hadn't been wearing    
       his Second Chance vest,

381
00:19:09,231 --> 00:19:10,607
we wouldn't have Samuel today.

382
00:19:10,649 --> 00:19:12,651
-It's great to be alive.      
               -Yeah.

383
00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:14,069
[Chris laughs]

384
00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:15,362
Well, she wasn't around      
          when he got shot.

385
00:19:15,404 --> 00:19:16,905
She's only six months old,

386
00:19:16,947 --> 00:19:19,741
so I guess you'd call her     
        a Second Chance baby.

387
00:19:19,783 --> 00:19:21,410
[Angela Watson]          
       This is what saved me.

388
00:19:21,451 --> 00:19:23,704
The round was actually stuck    
       in my vest right here.

389
00:19:23,745 --> 00:19:26,790
A year or so later,        
       I was getting married.

390
00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:28,458
I told Richard, you know,     
    I didn't have a real father.

391
00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:30,377
My real father didn't want     
       anything to do with me,

392
00:19:30,419 --> 00:19:32,754
so, uh, I asked Richard,

393
00:19:32,796 --> 00:19:34,882
"Would you be willing       
     to walk me down the aisle?"

394
00:19:34,923 --> 00:19:37,968
I said, "Angie, I will cancel   
 an audience with the Pope, okay?

395
00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:39,636
I'm gonna be there."

396
00:19:39,678 --> 00:19:41,180
It just doesn't get        
         any cooler than that.

397
00:19:41,221 --> 00:19:43,182
[laughing]

398
00:19:43,223 --> 00:19:45,100
dramatic music

399
00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:54,443
[woman screams]

400
00:20:01,074 --> 00:20:02,409
[Ramin]              
      You became a movie maker.

401
00:20:02,451 --> 00:20:03,535
Yeah.

402
00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:04,661
I was a director then,

403
00:20:04,703 --> 00:20:05,704
yeah, I guess, I suppose.

404
00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:06,747
Writer, director,

405
00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:08,498
sometimes star-- I don't know.

406
00:20:12,961 --> 00:20:14,213
[woman] The impact caused me    
          permanent damage.

407
00:20:14,254 --> 00:20:16,506
[Richard]             
          To promote the vest,

408
00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:19,218
we got policemen         
     who'd been shot in their vest,

409
00:20:19,259 --> 00:20:21,094
got them all to come up here,

410
00:20:21,136 --> 00:20:23,597
and they went through       
     and reenacted their shooting.

411
00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,557
It's a cross between       
         a 30-second commercial

412
00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:27,726
and a two-hour movie.       
             [chuckles]

413
00:20:27,768 --> 00:20:29,770
I would love to have just made 
         a 30-second commercial

414
00:20:29,811 --> 00:20:31,730
and say, "Hey, this is a vest,"

415
00:20:31,772 --> 00:20:33,857
but, no, you got to, got to,   
       got to get them intrigued

416
00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:35,359
and show, hey, this guy      
          got saved his life,

417
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,568
and this one saved his life.

418
00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:38,153
"Oh, wow."

419
00:20:38,195 --> 00:20:39,738
Die, pig.

420
00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:41,073
[man groans]

421
00:20:41,114 --> 00:20:43,116
[Aaron]              
         With the reenactments,

422
00:20:43,158 --> 00:20:46,787
Richard was trying to be     
        as accurate as possible.

423
00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:48,455
[gunfire]

424
00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:49,790
But my reenactment,

425
00:20:49,831 --> 00:20:51,416
it didn't happen in daylight.

426
00:20:51,458 --> 00:20:53,001
-Freeze!              
        -[Ramin]   And the man

427
00:20:53,043 --> 00:20:55,963
who shot you, he was        
     a white man or a Black man?

428
00:20:56,004 --> 00:20:57,673
Yeah, he was a Black man.

429
00:20:57,714 --> 00:21:00,467
In the re-creation,        
    he is played by a white man.

430
00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:02,344
[Aaron]              
              Good point.

431
00:21:02,386 --> 00:21:06,098
The re-creation is         
     working with what they had.

432
00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:08,141
You got me.

433
00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:12,354
[Ramin]   In his films, we see    
       Richard's marketing savvy.

434
00:21:13,689 --> 00:21:16,942
But they also unveil       
      his inner fears and desires.

435
00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:18,026
[shouting]

436
00:21:23,532 --> 00:21:27,661
In his 1975 film,         
       Second Chance vs. UAP,

437
00:21:27,703 --> 00:21:31,790
a ragtag leftist group of     
     communist hippies gone berserk

438
00:21:31,832 --> 00:21:35,294
make it their mission       
         to murder the police.

439
00:21:35,335 --> 00:21:39,339
We're killing pigs,        
     killing pigs, killing pigs.

440
00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:41,508
There's no more righteous     
          and beautiful act

441
00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:44,177
than the liquidation        
    of the brutal fascist insect

442
00:21:44,219 --> 00:21:46,722
which preys upon          
      the lives of our people.

443
00:21:46,763 --> 00:21:48,056
[men cheering]

444
00:21:48,098 --> 00:21:49,683
[Ramin]              
     What does "UAP" stand for?

445
00:21:49,725 --> 00:21:50,892
Yeah, that's-that's,        
           that's where--

446
00:21:50,934 --> 00:21:52,311
that's the grabber there, see?

447
00:21:54,021 --> 00:21:55,689
UAPs do exist.

448
00:21:55,731 --> 00:21:58,692
"Unorganized Asshole Punks."

449
00:21:58,734 --> 00:22:00,485
Ah, and, like,

450
00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:02,571
you think this organization    
     doesn't exist, but it does,

451
00:22:02,612 --> 00:22:04,156
and they're killing        
     ten policemen every month.

452
00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:06,742
We'd go out            
         to police departments,

453
00:22:06,783 --> 00:22:08,452
and they'd show it        
       at a police union meeting.

454
00:22:08,493 --> 00:22:11,455
Everybody loved it,        
 you know, and they wanted more.

455
00:22:11,496 --> 00:22:12,998
Freeze! Police!

456
00:22:14,916 --> 00:22:17,711
[Ramin]   Richard's films      
     instilled fear into the police

457
00:22:17,753 --> 00:22:21,214
so they would keep buying     
        the latest model vests.

458
00:22:21,256 --> 00:22:23,258
[alarm ringing]

459
00:22:25,552 --> 00:22:27,387
Inspired by Hollywood films,

460
00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:31,183
Richard's movies also encouraged 
 police to become rogue killers.

461
00:22:31,224 --> 00:22:32,976
[crowd screaming]

462
00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,733
So the question is, punk:     
         Do you feel lucky?

463
00:22:39,775 --> 00:22:41,068
Well, punk, do you feel lucky?

464
00:22:41,109 --> 00:22:43,070
Well, do you, punk?

465
00:22:44,946 --> 00:22:47,240
dramatic music

466
00:22:47,282 --> 00:22:49,242
[crowd screaming]

467
00:22:50,952 --> 00:22:53,580
[Ramin]              
     The films also allowed Richard

468
00:22:53,622 --> 00:22:56,917
to lampoon the media if they   
      questioned police brutality.

469
00:22:56,958 --> 00:22:58,418
Was Godzilla armed?

470
00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,962
Well, no, but he was...      
            he was huge.

471
00:23:01,004 --> 00:23:02,631
Well, did you fire         
           a warning shot?

472
00:23:02,672 --> 00:23:04,091
No.

473
00:23:04,132 --> 00:23:05,926
[Ramin]              
      The bad guys were Godzilla,

474
00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:09,054
their guilt and execution     
         a predetermined fate.

475
00:23:09,096 --> 00:23:12,933
So, you killed Godzilla      
           in cold blood?

476
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:15,811
Well, I had to, lady.       
           He's a reptile.

477
00:23:15,852 --> 00:23:17,562
[whistling tune]

478
00:23:17,604 --> 00:23:19,606
[Richard]   You're in such      
       a deadly serious business.

479
00:23:20,232 --> 00:23:22,317
You got to have          
    a sense of humor about this,

480
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,277
'cause if you don't,        
     you'll go stark raving mad.

481
00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,947
What is comedy?

482
00:23:26,988 --> 00:23:30,242
Webster's Dictionary        
          defines "comedy"

483
00:23:30,283 --> 00:23:32,452
as "that form of          
          entertainment..."

484
00:23:32,494 --> 00:23:33,829
[muffled mumbling]

485
00:23:35,497 --> 00:23:39,126
I think maybe a part of      
      my attraction to Richard

486
00:23:39,167 --> 00:23:42,963
is the fact that          
 I've always been a fan of opera.

487
00:23:43,004 --> 00:23:45,465
He is a truly           
         operatic character.

488
00:23:45,507 --> 00:23:48,051
[Ramin] What is the name      
     of the Richard Davis opera?

489
00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:49,928
Um...

490
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:51,179
Boom.

491
00:23:54,766 --> 00:23:56,726
solemn music

492
00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:02,482
[Richard]   I betrayed        
        my wonderful wife Karen.

493
00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:04,484
It's the biggest regret      
              of my life.

494
00:24:05,485 --> 00:24:07,779
[chuckles]             
               Oh, no.

495
00:24:08,697 --> 00:24:11,324
Uh, yeah,             
       it was pure hedonistic.

496
00:24:12,325 --> 00:24:13,535
Kathleen.

497
00:24:13,577 --> 00:24:15,328
Wow, killer body.

498
00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:18,832
She's a very, uh, artistic--    
    She has great, great talent.

499
00:24:18,874 --> 00:24:21,543
She can do an imitation of     
   Elmer Fudd reading pornography

500
00:24:21,585 --> 00:24:22,836
that will put you on the floor

501
00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:24,546
with tears             
       in your eyes laughing.

502
00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:26,173
[imitating Elmer Fudd]       
    "I was stunned out of my head

503
00:24:26,214 --> 00:24:29,134
about her naked body." [laughs]

504
00:24:31,052 --> 00:24:34,014
We just-- I don't know.      
          Richard's a lot.

505
00:24:34,055 --> 00:24:36,016
Richard's a lot. [laughs]

506
00:24:36,057 --> 00:24:37,809
[whip cracks]

507
00:24:37,851 --> 00:24:39,644
We were divorced,         
      but I stayed in the company

508
00:24:39,686 --> 00:24:42,606
because I needed         
        to protect my interests.

509
00:24:42,647 --> 00:24:46,485
I began to appreciate       
    her difficulties immediately.

510
00:24:46,526 --> 00:24:48,820
Immediately.

511
00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:52,032
Richard desperately needs     
       to be loved by people.

512
00:24:52,073 --> 00:24:56,036
He has his minions,        
      his friends, his followers.

513
00:24:56,077 --> 00:24:59,623
For example,           
     Aaron Westrick loved Richard.

514
00:24:59,664 --> 00:25:02,125
[Ramin]              
     And did Richard love Aaron?

515
00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:03,543
He loved him

516
00:25:03,585 --> 00:25:07,714
as one of his pet saves.

517
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:12,093
He loved him the way        
   someone would love a champ dog.

518
00:25:12,135 --> 00:25:14,304
I don't care what anybody says.

519
00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:16,932
Aaron and Richard         
         were good friends.

520
00:25:16,973 --> 00:25:19,768
Their personalities        
        were somewhat similar

521
00:25:19,809 --> 00:25:21,228
with their level of energy,

522
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:24,606
and Aaron, he was always moving.

523
00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:26,858
Talking, moving, something.

524
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,528
They understood each other.

525
00:25:31,071 --> 00:25:33,240
Richard, he was very generous.

526
00:25:33,281 --> 00:25:35,909
Aaron Westrick, 265.

527
00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:40,080
[Kim]               
     Take us out to eat, you know,

528
00:25:40,121 --> 00:25:42,082
take us out on his boat.

529
00:25:42,123 --> 00:25:45,418
Karen, you know,         
        she sent us baby gifts,

530
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:49,005
and, um, we all          
       kind of got pretty close.

531
00:25:49,047 --> 00:25:50,674
[Richard]             
     Our next video's gonna be,

532
00:25:50,715 --> 00:25:54,094
"Aaron Westrick,          
    Master of Criminal Justice."

533
00:25:54,135 --> 00:25:56,429
And-and perched on--        
      you'd be on a rock, see,

534
00:25:56,471 --> 00:25:58,098
in your superhero outfit      
       with the cape flowing.

535
00:25:58,139 --> 00:25:59,933
"I see a perpetrator!"       
         [imitates whirring]

536
00:25:59,975 --> 00:26:01,851
-You fly down. Okay.        
          -[men chuckling]

537
00:26:01,893 --> 00:26:03,562
[Aaron]              
 Richard called me on the phone.

538
00:26:03,603 --> 00:26:06,439
He said, "We want you to come   
      up here and work with us.

539
00:26:06,481 --> 00:26:08,608
You're-you're our best save."

540
00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:10,443
I remember those words,      
       "You're our best save."

541
00:26:10,485 --> 00:26:12,571
Aaron Westrick just mentioned   
        something off camera.

542
00:26:12,612 --> 00:26:14,155
Tell-tell the whole        
    police community in America,

543
00:26:14,197 --> 00:26:15,865
Aaron, what you just told me.

544
00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:18,410
[Aaron]   At that point,       
         I would do marketing.

545
00:26:18,451 --> 00:26:20,704
For a while there,        
            we had a blast.

546
00:26:20,745 --> 00:26:22,789
Richard Davis here.

547
00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:27,168
I was kind of, uh,         
       his sidekick, in a way.

548
00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:29,045
Ah!

549
00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:30,463
[Aaron]              
       The executives telling me,

550
00:26:30,505 --> 00:26:33,967
"It's your job           
       to keep an eye on him."

551
00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:37,887
Years ago, when I was shot,

552
00:26:37,929 --> 00:26:39,723
I was released from        
        the hospital that night.

553
00:26:39,764 --> 00:26:41,600
The sheriff looked at me,     
                he said,

554
00:26:41,641 --> 00:26:43,059
"Son, you did a good job,

555
00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:45,061
but for 25 cents,

556
00:26:45,103 --> 00:26:47,147
you could've saved this county   
          a lot of money."

557
00:26:48,356 --> 00:26:50,317
[Ramin] What did that mean,    
           "for 25 cents"?

558
00:26:50,358 --> 00:26:53,153
A bullet,             
    another bullet cost 25 cents.

559
00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:55,405
I could've walked         
    over top of him and shot him.

560
00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:57,115
And I didn't do that.

561
00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:58,992
He quit firing...

562
00:26:59,034 --> 00:27:00,744
He hit me, I shot him back,

563
00:27:00,785 --> 00:27:02,954
he quit firing,          
         and I quit firing.

564
00:27:02,996 --> 00:27:05,832
I didn't stand over top of him   
          and execute him.

565
00:27:05,874 --> 00:27:07,334
Bad guys who shoot policemen

566
00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:09,836
are deliberately trying      
            to kill them.

567
00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,880
I think you get          
      a one-way ticket to hell,

568
00:27:11,921 --> 00:27:15,800
not life in prison or not,     
     uh, ten years on death row.

569
00:27:15,842 --> 00:27:18,637
Uh, right there, right there,   
         on the spot, dead.

570
00:27:18,678 --> 00:27:21,014
That's-that's my way        
            of doing it.

571
00:27:21,056 --> 00:27:22,849
Just got a call.

572
00:27:22,891 --> 00:27:27,812
A New York state trooper      
      has been shot. [chuckles]

573
00:27:27,854 --> 00:27:30,565
[Ramin]   Richard had a policy    
          for police officers

574
00:27:30,607 --> 00:27:33,109
saved by a Second Chance vest.

575
00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:36,404
If they killed their shooter,   
 he would reward them with a gun.

576
00:27:36,446 --> 00:27:38,490
[man on phone]   I took my gun    
         and fired back at him.

577
00:27:38,531 --> 00:27:39,991
Did you, did you kill him?

578
00:27:40,033 --> 00:27:42,077
No. Uh, he returned to the car.

579
00:27:42,118 --> 00:27:44,079
You know, he was moving back   
              at the time.

580
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:46,039
[Ramin]              
       But without the execution,

581
00:27:46,081 --> 00:27:48,041
there was no bounty.

582
00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:50,043
somber music

583
00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:55,048
[Kathleen]   I think         
       Richard always saw himself

584
00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:57,550
as a person of destiny.

585
00:27:58,134 --> 00:28:01,554
Like Prometheus          
       bringing back something

586
00:28:01,596 --> 00:28:04,724
from the gods           
        to benefit humankind.

587
00:28:04,766 --> 00:28:07,519
In the struggle          
       between life and death,

588
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,396
he could tip the odds.

589
00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:21,741
mellow music

590
00:28:29,290 --> 00:28:31,292
[Ramin]              
     One of Richard's most haunting

591
00:28:31,334 --> 00:28:34,629
and strange transgressions    
            happened in 1990

592
00:28:34,671 --> 00:28:36,881
at the Second Chance Pin Shoot.

593
00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:42,429
This annual shooting competition

594
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:45,890
was a weeklong event       
 Richard staged on his property.

595
00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:48,268
It attracted           
         the best professional

596
00:28:48,309 --> 00:28:49,811
and amateur marksmen,

597
00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,104
even Olympians          
         from around the world.

598
00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:55,608
And Richard was the ringleader.

599
00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:58,570
[women squealing]

600
00:28:59,195 --> 00:29:02,031
[Tim Paczesny]           
     That was really fun as a kid.

601
00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:04,951
I, in fact, won          
     a very large Gurkha knife,

602
00:29:04,993 --> 00:29:06,828
which is about this big,

603
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:09,706
and, uh, I won it         
          as a 12-year-old.

604
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,041
And, you know, my parents     
      had to sign t-to take it,

605
00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:13,960
but I won it 'cause I knew     
     the answer to the question,

606
00:29:14,002 --> 00:29:16,171
which was,             
 "What's the name of this knife?"

607
00:29:16,212 --> 00:29:17,505
And it was a Gurkha.

608
00:29:17,547 --> 00:29:19,883
And, uh, it's actually       
          a killing knife.

609
00:29:21,551 --> 00:29:23,970
[onlookers cheering]

610
00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:26,014
Richard Davis was an icon.

611
00:29:26,055 --> 00:29:28,933
He was the most powerful person.

612
00:29:28,975 --> 00:29:30,810
You know, he was the guy     
             that employed

613
00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:32,562
80% of the town.

614
00:29:32,604 --> 00:29:34,898
And, uh, for me,          
       somebody to look up to

615
00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:38,318
as somebody that you might     
         want to be someday.

616
00:29:39,903 --> 00:29:42,405
When I was 16,          
          I made a bad choice.

617
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:45,241
I was out drinking        
           with some friends.

618
00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:47,160
We had pulled behind the school

619
00:29:47,202 --> 00:29:49,537
and basically said, "Hey, let's 
    go in and do a senior prank."

620
00:29:49,579 --> 00:29:51,790
I threw around some stuff.

621
00:29:51,831 --> 00:29:53,833
I broke some stuff.

622
00:29:53,875 --> 00:29:58,046
It was, uh, life-changing     
          for me at that age.

623
00:29:59,005 --> 00:30:01,382
And it has to do with       
          this right here.

624
00:30:03,218 --> 00:30:05,136
And that's what started      
             the next part

625
00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:07,055
of Richard's bad decision.

626
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,434
"Police apprehend         
   Central Lake vandal suspects,"

627
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:13,269
which is me. [sniffs]

628
00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:17,190
But right above this is      
 another title of a article about

629
00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,859
Richard Davis's company      
              and himself,

630
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:23,613
and it says, "Bullet found    
     in Central Lake woman's home."

631
00:30:24,739 --> 00:30:26,950
During Richard Davis's      
               Pin Shoot,

632
00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:30,370
a bullet ricocheted        
       and flew through the woods

633
00:30:30,411 --> 00:30:33,498
into this lady's home       
          through a window.

634
00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:35,625
And, uh, she then, I guess,

635
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,710
proceeded to have a heart attack 
        or have some problems

636
00:30:37,752 --> 00:30:39,295
where she thought         
   she was having a heart attack,

637
00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:41,589
and they had to bring in      
       a flight and take her.

638
00:30:41,631 --> 00:30:43,675
And so there was money       
     that was gonna be involved.

639
00:30:43,716 --> 00:30:48,429
Richard saw the articles     
       and wanted to contact me.

640
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:54,978
Thus his bad decision began       
   and took us down a crazy road.

641
00:30:56,437 --> 00:30:58,398
pensive music

642
00:31:00,441 --> 00:31:02,360
He picks me up          
         in his Mercedes-Benz,

643
00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:05,905
and he takes me for a drive    
       back to his back property.

644
00:31:05,947 --> 00:31:08,408
And it's way through the woods.

645
00:31:08,449 --> 00:31:10,326
There's one way in, one way out.

646
00:31:10,368 --> 00:31:13,580
And along the way,        
 he started telling me this story

647
00:31:13,621 --> 00:31:15,415
about these problems        
           that I'm having

648
00:31:15,456 --> 00:31:19,377
and these problems he's having   
    and how they might correlate.

649
00:31:19,419 --> 00:31:23,214
And he said,            
    "Well, you know what I think?

650
00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:27,427
I think you might've        
         got this crazy idea

651
00:31:27,468 --> 00:31:30,597
to just go             
     on a crazy vandalism spree

652
00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:33,057
and go shoot a bullet       
     through this lady's window.

653
00:31:33,099 --> 00:31:34,934
You rode your bike         
        or whatever up there,

654
00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:38,855
took a slingshot and shot     
 this bullet through the window."

655
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:42,859
And I was like,          
       "Why would I do that?"

656
00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:45,361
And he just said,         
     "My company could get sued

657
00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:47,447
for millions of dollars."

658
00:31:48,823 --> 00:31:51,117
And he said, "Well, I would    
     like to be your godfather.

659
00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:52,493
What are you gonna do?"

660
00:31:52,535 --> 00:31:54,120
You know, "What are you      
          gonna do in life?

661
00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:55,830
Are you gonna go to college?    
      I can take care of you."

662
00:31:55,872 --> 00:31:57,624
I believe this is         
     the same time he showed me

663
00:31:57,665 --> 00:31:59,834
what he called flash money.

664
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:01,920
And, uh, it was          
          a stack of money.

665
00:32:01,961 --> 00:32:05,465
He said, "That-that could     
        eventually be yours."

666
00:32:05,506 --> 00:32:06,799
When I got to my side of the car

667
00:32:06,841 --> 00:32:08,176
and he got to his side       
             of the car,

668
00:32:08,217 --> 00:32:10,386
he looked across          
          the top of his...

669
00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:12,388
I believe it was, like,      
       a lime green Mercedes.

670
00:32:12,430 --> 00:32:14,432
He looked right at me       
            and he said,

671
00:32:14,474 --> 00:32:19,270
"Listen, if you tell anyone,    
          I will kill you."

672
00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:23,483
[dog barking]

673
00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:25,151
Once my dad heard that,

674
00:32:25,193 --> 00:32:27,445
he wanted to get a shotgun    
            and go get him.

675
00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:29,072
But of course,

676
00:32:29,113 --> 00:32:31,157
that shotgun wouldn't help     
       [laughs] with Richard.

677
00:32:31,199 --> 00:32:35,828
You know, you need         
        an aircraft carrier.

678
00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:38,331
[rapid gunfire]

679
00:32:39,874 --> 00:32:42,418
[Ramin]              
    I want to ask you about Tim.

680
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:44,087
Tim.

681
00:32:44,128 --> 00:32:46,839
Have you seen Tim         
        since this incident?

682
00:32:46,881 --> 00:32:48,007
No.

683
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:50,176
Do you ever see him in town or--

684
00:32:50,218 --> 00:32:52,011
No. Uh, maybe.

685
00:32:52,053 --> 00:32:54,013
I never look for him, don't    
   really care about him anymore.

686
00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:56,307
Don't really care about him.

687
00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:59,519
dramatic music

688
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,896
[Tim]   At that point,        
      I ended up going undercover

689
00:33:01,938 --> 00:33:03,690
for                
    Traverse City Narcotics Team.

690
00:33:03,731 --> 00:33:05,692
They came in, put a wire on me,

691
00:33:05,733 --> 00:33:09,237
and we had meetings,        
    and they explained, you know,

692
00:33:09,278 --> 00:33:11,072
"Whenever he calls,        
          set up a meeting,

693
00:33:11,114 --> 00:33:13,157
and, you know,           
       w-we'll go from there."

694
00:33:15,076 --> 00:33:17,620
Richard picked me up       
        in that green Mercedes,

695
00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:20,707
and we went out to, uh...

696
00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:22,250
I'm sorry,             
     I'm getting a little shaky

697
00:33:22,291 --> 00:33:24,961
'cause it just makes me      
           anxiety-ridden.

698
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:28,297
I got in the vehicle with him,   
         and when we parked,

699
00:33:28,339 --> 00:33:31,134
the very first thing he did    
           is looked at me

700
00:33:31,175 --> 00:33:34,554
and reached over          
     and started to pat me down.

701
00:33:34,595 --> 00:33:36,139
And, uh, I didn't know       
             what to do.

702
00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:38,307
I thought, "Oh, no."

703
00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:41,227
And then he touched my chest and 
    I knocked him off and I said,

704
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:42,895
"What are you, a fag?"

705
00:33:42,937 --> 00:33:44,856
Because I know           
       that was the best thing

706
00:33:44,897 --> 00:33:47,191
for me to do at that moment.

707
00:33:47,233 --> 00:33:50,361
And, uh, he said, "No, no,     
    I'm just paranoid, paranoid."

708
00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:52,196
You know? And, um...

709
00:33:52,238 --> 00:33:55,241
After that,            
     he never touched me again.

710
00:33:57,201 --> 00:33:59,078
pensive music

711
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,247
[Ramin]   Richard was charged    
      with obstruction of justice

712
00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:04,208
and a weapons possession felony.

713
00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:06,586
He was able to plead the charges 
         down to a misdemeanor,

714
00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:08,337
pay a fine,

715
00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:11,424
and avoid a mandatory       
       two-year prison sentence.

716
00:34:12,383 --> 00:34:15,970
His Mercedes-Benz was impounded.

717
00:34:16,012 --> 00:34:19,182
[Tim]   With Richard Davis      
     being the most powerful person

718
00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:21,809
in the town, it's a lot easier 
          in your mind to say,

719
00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:23,352
"Oh, that kid's lying       
            and he did it,"

720
00:34:23,394 --> 00:34:25,104
but not look any further

721
00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:27,607
because that man's paying     
            your salary.

722
00:34:27,648 --> 00:34:29,901
[Ramin] And what did your mom   
     and dad think at that time?

723
00:34:29,942 --> 00:34:32,945
Oh, uh, it was horrible.

724
00:34:32,987 --> 00:34:37,450
[voice breaking] My mom worked   
     at the local grocery store.

725
00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:40,745
She had to quit.

726
00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,288
[sniffling]

727
00:34:43,247 --> 00:34:44,916
Sorry.

728
00:34:44,957 --> 00:34:47,293
But I was very...

729
00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:49,545
brought a lot of shame       
            on my family.

730
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:58,221
[Richard]   I regret         
       ever speaking to the guy.

731
00:34:58,262 --> 00:34:59,972
I never sh-should've       
             said anything.

732
00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,641
And, uh, I was wrong.

733
00:35:01,682 --> 00:35:03,059
I was, I was wrong to, uh,

734
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:04,477
try to investigate         
        the thing on my own.

735
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:06,479
I shouldn't have done that,    
             but, uh...

736
00:35:06,521 --> 00:35:09,148
that's another inglorious     
       misstep there, really.

737
00:35:11,818 --> 00:35:13,528
Okay, little lower. Cock it up.

738
00:35:13,569 --> 00:35:15,321
[David Zeman]           
      Richard Davis made a career

739
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:18,241
out of promoting his-his      
    protection of law enforcement

740
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:20,576
and people who put themselves   
         at risk every day.

741
00:35:20,618 --> 00:35:23,663
But in his actions,        
      when push came to shove,

742
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:25,706
he was more about         
         protecting himself.

743
00:35:29,919 --> 00:35:32,463
[Ramin]   Did you ever        
        meet Richard in person?

744
00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:34,132
[David]   No.            
      Neither he nor his attorneys

745
00:35:34,173 --> 00:35:35,967
would talk with us.

746
00:35:36,008 --> 00:35:38,803
But we were able to get      
     a lot of deposition testimony

747
00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:41,764
from him             
      and some of his colleagues.

748
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:43,266
[Ramin]              
      Can you please read this?

749
00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:44,517
I'll read a section of it.

750
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:46,394
This section here.

751
00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:50,523
Oh, that's from that stupid    
         Detroit News   article.

752
00:35:50,565 --> 00:35:52,191
Which, uh...

753
00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:54,569
Ah. Oh, man.

754
00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:57,238
This is all, God...

755
00:35:59,323 --> 00:36:02,118
[David]              
 We followed the police reports,

756
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,037
and he always seems        
       to escape un-unscathed

757
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,874
and throw everyone else      
      under the bus around him.

758
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:11,836
[crowd cheering]

759
00:36:11,878 --> 00:36:13,504
Richard Davis           
          had been putting on

760
00:36:13,546 --> 00:36:15,464
firework displays every summer.

761
00:36:15,506 --> 00:36:20,344
At the display in 1997,      
       something tragic happened.

762
00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:22,763
One of the canisters       
         that had the fireworks

763
00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:24,432
exploded on the ground,

764
00:36:24,473 --> 00:36:26,309
and shrapnel just, uh,      
        went all over the place.

765
00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:28,394
[crowd screaming]

766
00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:33,065
[Kathleen]             
         People were screaming.

767
00:36:33,107 --> 00:36:35,526
And one lost an arm and a leg,

768
00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:38,613
and another one was killed     
      in front of his children.

769
00:36:38,654 --> 00:36:40,615
I said apologizing         
      would've been an insult,

770
00:36:40,656 --> 00:36:42,116
you know what I'm saying?     
       "Oh, please forgive me

771
00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:43,659
for killing your husband there." 
              You know?

772
00:36:43,701 --> 00:36:45,494
And you can't...

773
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:48,706
You know, I wish I could      
 push a button, do it over again.

774
00:36:49,332 --> 00:36:52,376
We had the empty boxes      
       we took the shells out of.

775
00:36:52,418 --> 00:36:54,420
There's all this Chinese writing 
              all over it.

776
00:36:54,462 --> 00:36:56,005
Well, we finally get       
        somebody to translate it

777
00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:57,673
and look up in China,

778
00:36:57,715 --> 00:37:00,593
and there was no such company   
        and no such address.

779
00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:03,262
These people knew         
         they're making crap

780
00:37:03,304 --> 00:37:05,431
and th-they're           
     deliberately disguising it.

781
00:37:05,473 --> 00:37:07,391
And everybody's pointing at me   
      like it's my fault, so--

782
00:37:07,433 --> 00:37:09,268
Well, that-that's America     
              for you.

783
00:37:10,269 --> 00:37:12,897
[David]              
     He was charged with felonies.

784
00:37:12,939 --> 00:37:16,692
I-I believe those were      
        bargained down as well.

785
00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:18,444
And from what we found      
          in the court records

786
00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:21,739
up in Northern Michigan      
   is what led us back to Detroit

787
00:37:21,781 --> 00:37:24,367
and the incident         
          with the pizza shop.

788
00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:26,244
[Tim]               
           He had a business,

789
00:37:26,285 --> 00:37:29,163
and, uh, he explained       
     that he burnt this business

790
00:37:29,205 --> 00:37:32,166
for the money           
    to finance the next business.

791
00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:36,254
And, um, that's on tape      
    somewhere in some transcript

792
00:37:36,295 --> 00:37:38,297
because I was wired        
         when that was said.

793
00:37:39,298 --> 00:37:41,175
[Ramin]              
       We searched for Tim's wire

794
00:37:41,217 --> 00:37:43,344
but were told by         
          Traverse City Police

795
00:37:43,386 --> 00:37:46,138
that it had been         
         disposed of years ago.

796
00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:50,184
On December 31, 1969,

797
00:37:50,226 --> 00:37:54,313
Richard took out $5,000 worth   
     of insurance on his pizzerias.

798
00:37:54,355 --> 00:37:57,650
Six days later,          
           they burned down.

799
00:37:58,943 --> 00:38:01,445
But when I pressed Richard    
          on the arson again,

800
00:38:01,487 --> 00:38:03,739
his answer was the same.

801
00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:06,826
[Richard]   Everybody assumed    
      that I had insurance on it.

802
00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:08,244
They're running around       
         all over the place.

803
00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,371
Well, if you find         
        an insurance policy,

804
00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,373
[laughs] I'll split the money   
        with you, pal, okay?

805
00:38:12,415 --> 00:38:13,833
I just ain't got one.

806
00:38:13,874 --> 00:38:15,668
And, yeah, that drives me nuts.

807
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:17,211
F-Fifty years later,

808
00:38:17,253 --> 00:38:18,129
I'm still being asked       
        about this, you know.

809
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:19,505
Good God Almighty.

810
00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:27,346
[Tim]   How could somebody      
           that I thought was

811
00:38:27,388 --> 00:38:29,932
a savior of people be somebody

812
00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:33,060
that's not on the other end    
        when no one's around?

813
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:38,065
I think we all have        
        that particle potential.

814
00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:40,651
I-I'm beginning to study,

815
00:38:40,693 --> 00:38:44,655
uh, Taoism and-and         
     some ancient philosophies.

816
00:38:44,697 --> 00:38:46,157
And I think            
       it's like the yin yang.

817
00:38:46,198 --> 00:38:48,159
Life is right smack        
           in the middle,

818
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,244
and the yin and the yang      
          are good and bad.

819
00:38:50,286 --> 00:38:53,080
All our lives, we're gonna     
    have good and bad come at us.

820
00:38:53,122 --> 00:38:56,042
Richard Davis's and my life    
        was a bad situation,

821
00:38:56,083 --> 00:38:57,418
but he was a positive thing

822
00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:58,794
in the other end          
         of the yin and yang

823
00:38:58,836 --> 00:39:00,671
in a lot of people's lives.

824
00:39:00,713 --> 00:39:03,382
He saved those people's lives   
    with those bulletproof vests.

825
00:39:03,424 --> 00:39:06,886
So, um, the question is      
       at the end of the day:

826
00:39:06,927 --> 00:39:08,721
When they put you in the ground,

827
00:39:08,763 --> 00:39:10,931
how big-- what does        
      your yin yang look like?

828
00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:13,351
Is there more good or more bad?

829
00:39:13,392 --> 00:39:15,061
I'm hoping             
      that mine has more good.

830
00:39:15,102 --> 00:39:16,562
That's my goal.

831
00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:30,534
I'm alone now.

832
00:39:30,576 --> 00:39:32,536
The camera's running        
           automatically.

833
00:39:33,996 --> 00:39:36,832
This is where you're gonna be   
        when you die, alone.

834
00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:39,919
No matter if there's        
    a thousand people around you,

835
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,754
you're gonna be alone.

836
00:39:41,796 --> 00:39:43,756
[Ramin]   Richard deleted      
       this scene from his film.

837
00:39:43,798 --> 00:39:46,342
He said it was too mushy.

838
00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:50,679
Here, imagining his own death, 
       he gives a final soliloquy

839
00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:53,265
to the police officers      
           he hopes to save.

840
00:39:53,307 --> 00:39:55,434
[Richard on video]         
            I'm scared now,

841
00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:58,187
so damn scared I can feel it,

842
00:39:58,229 --> 00:40:00,356
because I know

843
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,900
that how well           
   this has been presented to you

844
00:40:02,942 --> 00:40:05,027
is going to determine

845
00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:08,322
whether or not many of you     
          will live or die.

846
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:12,993
[Ramin] Richard,          
    why do you have this burden?

847
00:40:14,662 --> 00:40:16,414
[exhales heavily]         
        Because I can do it.

848
00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:18,457
I can save these people.

849
00:40:18,499 --> 00:40:19,959
And, uh...

850
00:40:21,335 --> 00:40:23,963
...if I don't, uh, it feels,

851
00:40:24,004 --> 00:40:25,548
you know, to some degree      
           it's my fault.

852
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:27,383
I didn't make the vests      
            light enough

853
00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:30,302
or [sighs] maybe if        
       I would've shot one...

854
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,806
...would've got shot        
        some-some other time,

855
00:40:33,848 --> 00:40:35,307
a couple more times        
            or something,

856
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:36,642
maybe that would've made      
      a difference to somebody.

857
00:40:36,684 --> 00:40:38,727
And, uh...

858
00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:39,812
[sighs]

859
00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:43,315
My dad warned me.

860
00:40:43,357 --> 00:40:47,653
He says, "There's gonna be times 
     when you don't save the guy."

861
00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:51,866
Oh, gee, you know,         
        just the... [groans]

862
00:40:51,907 --> 00:40:53,951
That's the way it is.

863
00:40:53,993 --> 00:40:56,996
Just, uh... go on         
       and save the next guy.

864
00:40:57,037 --> 00:40:59,290
Just don't-don't sit there     
         and moan about it.

865
00:40:59,331 --> 00:41:00,791
Just-- you can't.

866
00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:02,543
pensive music

867
00:41:04,211 --> 00:41:05,546
Historically,           
          body armor would not

868
00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:07,465
have saved President Lincoln.

869
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:10,676
It would not have saved      
            John F. Kennedy.

870
00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:15,222
Would've saved George Wallace.

871
00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:19,935
Would've saved Malcolm X.

872
00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:21,520
[gunshot]

873
00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:22,855
And probably would've saved    
            half the people

874
00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:24,857
at the Battle of Gettysburg.

875
00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:28,903
You know, what if?

876
00:41:30,237 --> 00:41:32,490
My dad was in the Marines.

877
00:41:32,531 --> 00:41:36,368
February 1945, news was full   
     of stories about this island,

878
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:38,871
Iwo Jima, where hundreds     
 and then thousands of casualties

879
00:41:38,913 --> 00:41:41,123
were being taken every day.    
               Every day.

880
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:43,375
[Ramin]              
     Were they wearing body armor?

881
00:41:43,417 --> 00:41:45,211
[Richard]             
            No, none at all.

882
00:41:45,252 --> 00:41:48,297
My dad's best friend,       
     on the first day of Iwo Jima,

883
00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:51,717
a mortar shell came down     
       and blew the guy to bits.

884
00:41:51,759 --> 00:41:53,219
And, uh, my dad          
       had to spend the night

885
00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:56,764
with, uh, pieces          
       of his best friend, um,

886
00:41:56,805 --> 00:41:59,266
right around, right around     
        the foxhole, I think.

887
00:41:59,308 --> 00:42:01,185
Um...

888
00:42:01,227 --> 00:42:04,772
Then he had nothing else better   
      to do on this little island

889
00:42:04,813 --> 00:42:07,233
than go on            
       a five-week killing spree.

890
00:42:09,735 --> 00:42:11,570
[Ramin]              
 Richard told me his first memory

891
00:42:11,612 --> 00:42:13,072
was sitting on the porch swing

892
00:42:13,113 --> 00:42:15,407
between his mother        
            and grandmother,

893
00:42:15,449 --> 00:42:17,368
waiting for            
         the unthinkable horror

894
00:42:17,409 --> 00:42:20,746
of the gray Navy staff car    
       coming with death notices.

895
00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:26,085
For six weeks, they sat there, 
        until the sun went down,

896
00:42:26,126 --> 00:42:29,088
and he knew            
        his father had survived.

897
00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:34,510
When his father returned home, 
       he never spoke of the war.

898
00:42:36,095 --> 00:42:38,931
Richard, however,         
           spoke of it often.

899
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:43,227
Perhaps he created his persona,   
          real and fictional,

900
00:42:43,269 --> 00:42:45,854
on an experience         
           he had never had,

901
00:42:45,896 --> 00:42:48,107
his life more like an echo.

902
00:42:54,655 --> 00:42:55,948
So, we grew up with the war.

903
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:58,450
That was a,            
        you know, a good war.

904
00:42:58,492 --> 00:43:00,286
They say that World War II     
       was the last good war,

905
00:43:00,327 --> 00:43:02,121
where the-the bad guys       
           were really bad

906
00:43:02,162 --> 00:43:04,290
and the good guys         
     were really good. [laughs]

907
00:43:04,331 --> 00:43:05,833
And now it gets so muddled

908
00:43:05,874 --> 00:43:08,794
and, uh, twisted around      
           and everything.

909
00:43:10,462 --> 00:43:12,673
[Ramin]              
 Richard enlisted in the Marines,

910
00:43:12,715 --> 00:43:16,010
but unlike his father,      
         he was never deployed.

911
00:43:16,051 --> 00:43:18,887
Did you have a lot to prove    
       to your father growing up?

912
00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:21,515
Yeah, I-I, uh...

913
00:43:21,557 --> 00:43:25,728
had a hard time, you know,     
       getting approval, I...

914
00:43:25,769 --> 00:43:28,147
mainly 'cause, uh, you know,

915
00:43:28,188 --> 00:43:31,150
I-I couldn't go to Iwo Jima    
    or anything, you know, so...

916
00:43:31,191 --> 00:43:34,486
Uh, very high, very high bar    
          there, you know?

917
00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:38,115
Only a few times where I've been 
         shot by somebody else.

918
00:43:38,157 --> 00:43:40,993
And this just sounds really,   
     boy, soldier of fortune here,

919
00:43:41,035 --> 00:43:43,954
but I wanted somebody       
        who's coldblooded enough

920
00:43:43,996 --> 00:43:45,831
that he's not gonna go, "Oh,"   
   flinch away at the last second,

921
00:43:45,873 --> 00:43:46,999
blow my elbow off, you know.

922
00:43:47,041 --> 00:43:48,917
So this is my father.

923
00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:53,505
Uh, last time he shot a man    
   was on a place called Iwo Jima.

924
00:43:54,465 --> 00:43:56,091
Right over here.          
       Right-- oh, whoa, whoa.

925
00:43:56,133 --> 00:43:57,092
[laughs]

926
00:43:57,134 --> 00:43:58,552
Uh, let it go, Dad.

927
00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:00,929
Unload 'em.

928
00:44:12,524 --> 00:44:13,817
Okay.

929
00:44:13,859 --> 00:44:15,235
You'll get the idea. One more.

930
00:44:15,277 --> 00:44:16,528
That's good.

931
00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:18,030
[Ramin]              
        Despite Richard's pleas,

932
00:44:18,072 --> 00:44:20,407
his father could not       
             stop shooting,

933
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:24,036
in a silent trance,        
        firing over and over...

934
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:28,582
...ultimately shooting      
          at his son's groin.

935
00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:37,633
[Matt Davis]   My grandfather    
         was a great salesman,

936
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,593
a great leader.

937
00:44:40,177 --> 00:44:45,057
And he played a huge role     
       in my father's success

938
00:44:45,099 --> 00:44:47,393
in building Second Chance.

939
00:44:48,394 --> 00:44:52,898
Because my father         
           has no filter, um,

940
00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:54,983
I think my grandfather      
        played an important role

941
00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:57,027
in helping to keep my dad     
            kind of focused

942
00:44:57,069 --> 00:44:59,154
and on the right path.

943
00:45:04,201 --> 00:45:05,411
[phone ringing]

944
00:45:05,452 --> 00:45:07,037
He pretty much ran the office

945
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:09,998
and built             
        the sales organization.

946
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,209
He was also tough as nails.

947
00:45:12,835 --> 00:45:15,129
One time, my dad said,      
        "Your grandfather and I

948
00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:16,964
want to have           
        a conversation with you.

949
00:45:17,005 --> 00:45:18,757
What do you want to do      
      when you get out of school?"

950
00:45:18,799 --> 00:45:20,384
I said, "Well, I was       
 thinking about going to college

951
00:45:20,426 --> 00:45:22,886
and then going to med school."

952
00:45:22,928 --> 00:45:25,973
And my grandfather         
       has a glass of bourbon

953
00:45:26,014 --> 00:45:27,558
or whiskey or something,

954
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:31,103
and he just slams it down     
        on this glass table.

955
00:45:31,145 --> 00:45:32,521
Bam!

956
00:45:32,563 --> 00:45:34,481
And he looks at me         
      and he goes, "Business!"

957
00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:35,566
Just like that.

958
00:45:35,607 --> 00:45:38,110
soft music

959
00:45:42,448 --> 00:45:44,116
[Aaron]              
     I've always thought to myself

960
00:45:44,158 --> 00:45:46,118
that his father was

961
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,078
his moral compass.

962
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,955
I think peop-- other executives

963
00:45:49,997 --> 00:45:51,582
within the company         
           knew that, too.

964
00:45:51,623 --> 00:45:53,292
They were thinking, you know,

965
00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:55,794
"Oh, we got to reel him in     
     a little bit. Get his dad."

966
00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:59,840
When he passed away,       
     I think Second Chance changed.

967
00:46:00,966 --> 00:46:02,426
[Ramin]              
            Richard's father

968
00:46:02,468 --> 00:46:04,928
cast a large shadow        
             over his life,

969
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:08,182
so I can imagine his legacy    
          looming over Richard

970
00:46:08,223 --> 00:46:12,269
when he arrived in that      
 dark alleyway in Detroit in 1970

971
00:46:12,311 --> 00:46:14,313
with two large pizzas.

972
00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:20,486
When investigative journalists 
               in Detroit

973
00:46:20,527 --> 00:46:22,738
looked into            
        Richard's origin story,

974
00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:24,448
they could not find any proof

975
00:46:24,490 --> 00:46:26,658
the alleyway shooting       
             had happened.

976
00:46:35,459 --> 00:46:37,795
Matt and I, we searched      
      through all the records.

977
00:46:37,836 --> 00:46:40,255
We found a, we found a copy    
    of the Detroit police report,

978
00:46:40,297 --> 00:46:42,466
and we sent it to the-- I sent,

979
00:46:42,508 --> 00:46:44,092
I sent it to the reporters     
         at the   Detroit News

980
00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:46,386
with a "fuck you" note       
     or something and whatever.

981
00:46:46,428 --> 00:46:48,639
I don't know. Idiots, you know. 
          And there it is.

982
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,974
They-they never, they never    
 printed a correction, of course.

983
00:46:51,016 --> 00:46:52,851
[Ramin]              
           May I see that?

984
00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:55,020
Jesus. Uh...

985
00:46:56,146 --> 00:46:57,523
Whew.

986
00:46:57,564 --> 00:46:59,107
Ah, boy, I-I don't--

987
00:46:59,149 --> 00:47:00,818
Matt might have--         
     M-Matt might have saved it.

988
00:47:00,859 --> 00:47:02,069
Saves a lot of stuff.       
          He might have it.

989
00:47:03,195 --> 00:47:05,948
[Ramin]   His son Matt        
          did not have a copy.

990
00:47:05,989 --> 00:47:10,285
We found a low-resolution one   
 in an obscure gun forum online,

991
00:47:10,327 --> 00:47:13,580
but we could not verify      
            if it was real.

992
00:47:13,622 --> 00:47:16,708
I asked Richard          
      if it was all a fabrication.

993
00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:18,710
[laughs]              
      No, I'm not making it up.

994
00:47:18,752 --> 00:47:20,796
And, oh, oh, I got one for you.

995
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,798
Uh, geez.

996
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,508
The wedding book          
        or wedding pictures.

997
00:47:24,550 --> 00:47:26,635
My wedding pictures, okay?

998
00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:27,886
You see me             
      in the wedding pictures,

999
00:47:27,928 --> 00:47:29,096
scar's right here,         
          stitches, right?

1000
00:47:29,137 --> 00:47:30,889
Still in stitches.

1001
00:47:33,141 --> 00:47:34,434
[Ramin]              
       When I look at this photo,

1002
00:47:34,476 --> 00:47:36,144
I do not see a scar.

1003
00:47:36,186 --> 00:47:38,522
I see a cowlick in his eyebrow.

1004
00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:42,943
And frustratingly,        
 in all the other wedding photos,

1005
00:47:42,985 --> 00:47:45,070
the evidence is          
          turned away from us,

1006
00:47:45,112 --> 00:47:47,739
obscured, hidden from view.

1007
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:55,289
[Aaron]              
     And not only was it me getting

1008
00:47:55,330 --> 00:47:58,542
fooled, perhaps, it was, like,   
        everybody. [chuckles]

1009
00:47:58,584 --> 00:48:00,168
And perhaps I'm blocking it

1010
00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:02,838
because I... I really don't    
      want to believe anything

1011
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,590
but the myth.

1012
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,343
The legend.

1013
00:48:19,104 --> 00:48:22,566
[Kathleen]   Richard strikes me   
         as being a narcissist.

1014
00:48:22,608 --> 00:48:25,652
His mind never turns off.

1015
00:48:25,694 --> 00:48:29,281
He thinks out loud,        
        and that was a problem.

1016
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,077
Richard could never be quiet.

1017
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,496
[laughs]              
    He just never could be quiet.

1018
00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:45,589
You come out of this gorgeous   
         woods to this... just

1019
00:48:45,631 --> 00:48:49,551
back range where          
     they would test explosives.

1020
00:48:49,593 --> 00:48:51,970
And they're running        
      big .50-cal machine guns.

1021
00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:55,098
Boom-de-boom-de-boom.       
      Shakes the china cupboard

1022
00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:57,184
all the way up by my house.

1023
00:49:05,442 --> 00:49:07,611
Richard and his followers

1024
00:49:07,653 --> 00:49:09,863
who come up here         
          and blow things up,

1025
00:49:09,905 --> 00:49:12,991
it's as though the profane     
        had been plunked down

1026
00:49:13,033 --> 00:49:14,785
in the center of the sacred.

1027
00:49:14,826 --> 00:49:16,954
dramatic music

1028
00:49:24,169 --> 00:49:26,296
They don't see it.

1029
00:49:26,338 --> 00:49:28,757
They don't see it,        
 all these people coming up and,

1030
00:49:28,799 --> 00:49:30,467
"Oh, I love to go out in nature

1031
00:49:30,509 --> 00:49:32,177
and camp out            
        and stuff like that."

1032
00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:36,098
There's nothing left behind them

1033
00:49:36,139 --> 00:49:39,851
but smoke and smell        
            and destruction.

1034
00:49:42,521 --> 00:49:45,524
There's nothing really creative   
        or reparative about it.

1035
00:49:45,565 --> 00:49:47,651
[rapid gunfire]

1036
00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:54,741
The world would probably be    
     better off without people,

1037
00:49:54,783 --> 00:49:57,786
and that's probably        
       what's going to happen.

1038
00:49:57,828 --> 00:50:01,665
I-I believe that it will,     
      the way we're going now.

1039
00:50:01,707 --> 00:50:05,961
Um, I think            
     that we'll become extinct,

1040
00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:10,132
and then the world will heal    
          after we're gone.

1041
00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:12,718
-[clamoring]            
          -[sirens wailing]

1042
00:50:18,181 --> 00:50:19,891
[helicopter whirring]

1043
00:50:19,933 --> 00:50:22,519
[Richard]   On 9/11,         
        I came into the factory.

1044
00:50:22,561 --> 00:50:24,730
On the TV set,          
      one tower is burning there.

1045
00:50:24,771 --> 00:50:25,897
For a few minutes there,      
           I was thinking

1046
00:50:25,939 --> 00:50:27,691
it was an accident, you know.

1047
00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:29,484
And then [imitates plane crash] 
        comes the second one.

1048
00:50:29,526 --> 00:50:31,903
I said, "We're gonna get busy."

1049
00:50:33,864 --> 00:50:35,407
This is gonna mean doves

1050
00:50:35,449 --> 00:50:36,908
are gonna turn into hawks,

1051
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:39,077
and hawks are gonna        
         turn into vampires.

1052
00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:42,247
America united like that was

1053
00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:44,249
a really fearsome         
          international thing.

1054
00:50:44,291 --> 00:50:46,585
Everybody just, whoa--      
       you got a real superpower

1055
00:50:46,626 --> 00:50:48,253
that's not taking         
 a lot of bullshit from anybody.

1056
00:50:48,295 --> 00:50:49,421
N-Nobody's gonna          
        stand there and say,

1057
00:50:49,463 --> 00:50:50,547
"Oh, we shouldn't be so cruel."

1058
00:50:50,589 --> 00:50:51,715
No, boom, kill 'em all.

1059
00:50:51,757 --> 00:50:53,717
[explosion]

1060
00:50:53,759 --> 00:50:55,761
[whooping, shouting]

1061
00:50:55,802 --> 00:50:57,596
Iraq never had a chance.

1062
00:50:57,637 --> 00:51:00,140
The technology was there,     
        we just flattened them.

1063
00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:01,933
[soldiers shouting]

1064
00:51:01,975 --> 00:51:03,769
[Ramin]              
      America invaded a country

1065
00:51:03,810 --> 00:51:05,437
that had nothing to do with it.

1066
00:51:05,479 --> 00:51:07,898
Uh, well, in all wars,

1067
00:51:07,939 --> 00:51:09,941
more people get killed       
    by accident than on purpose.

1068
00:51:13,028 --> 00:51:14,946
[Ramin]              
      As the war on terror began,

1069
00:51:14,988 --> 00:51:17,699
Second Chance's sales       
              skyrocketed

1070
00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:19,618
from government contracts.

1071
00:51:19,659 --> 00:51:21,953
The company planned        
      to go public on Wall Street,

1072
00:51:21,995 --> 00:51:25,624
and they had a new product    
     to help them meet the moment.

1073
00:51:27,584 --> 00:51:30,128
We're gonna introduce to you    
             the newest,

1074
00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:33,924
lightest vest ever made      
    in the history of the world.

1075
00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:36,968
I am 55 years old,

1076
00:51:37,010 --> 00:51:41,807
about 55 pounds overweight,    
    and this concealed body armor

1077
00:51:41,848 --> 00:51:46,394
only weighs            
    0.55 pounds per square foot.

1078
00:51:47,354 --> 00:51:50,732
Three, two, one.

1079
00:51:55,862 --> 00:51:58,949
The bullet is embedded here    
            in the Zylon.

1080
00:52:00,867 --> 00:52:03,328
Along comes this fiber Zylon.

1081
00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:05,664
Holy moly, this is really great.

1082
00:52:05,705 --> 00:52:08,708
'Cause basically,         
      lighter, thinner, stronger.

1083
00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:10,168
The dream of every armor maker.

1084
00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:11,711
Wow.

1085
00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:14,297
To me, it was something

1086
00:52:14,339 --> 00:52:16,591
that I thought was         
   a once-in-a-lifetime discovery.

1087
00:52:16,633 --> 00:52:20,387
And we announced it by saying,   
   "There's a new sheriff in town,

1088
00:52:20,428 --> 00:52:22,347
and it's called Zylon."

1089
00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:26,810
[Aaron]   It was advertised     
      as, uh, Kevlar on steroids.

1090
00:52:26,852 --> 00:52:29,437
It was an amazing product     
           at that point.

1091
00:52:29,479 --> 00:52:31,690
[Ramin]   The Zylon         
       going into their vests was

1092
00:52:31,731 --> 00:52:33,441
a revolutionary new fiber,

1093
00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:36,862
and Second Chance had       
        a brief exclusive window

1094
00:52:36,903 --> 00:52:39,030
to research, develop and sell it

1095
00:52:39,072 --> 00:52:42,159
before their competitors     
           would gain access

1096
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,452
and cut into their profits.

1097
00:52:46,246 --> 00:52:49,040
Aaron had become         
         director of research,

1098
00:52:49,082 --> 00:52:50,667
reporting to Ed Bachner.

1099
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:53,545
A former Marine from Texas,    
            Ed is a chemist

1100
00:52:53,587 --> 00:52:55,714
who used to run          
     DuPont's body armor division,

1101
00:52:55,755 --> 00:52:57,883
famous for its use of Kevlar.

1102
00:52:58,592 --> 00:53:01,261
In his basement, he showed us   
         how he liked to relax:

1103
00:53:01,303 --> 00:53:03,054
making bullets.

1104
00:53:04,598 --> 00:53:06,224
There it is.

1105
00:53:06,266 --> 00:53:09,853
That's a 185-grain,        
   .45 ACP jacketed hollow point.

1106
00:53:09,895 --> 00:53:12,981
I shoot them as fast        
     as I load them. [chuckles]

1107
00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:14,900
[Aaron]              
     Ed Bachner is a heck of a guy,

1108
00:53:14,941 --> 00:53:16,985
and he could be          
       really stringent about,

1109
00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:18,612
"You got to know this."

1110
00:53:19,613 --> 00:53:21,990
So he trained me         
        about ballistic testing.

1111
00:53:22,032 --> 00:53:25,785
In 2001, I was called in     
        by the general manager,

1112
00:53:25,827 --> 00:53:28,538
and he showed me

1113
00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:33,585
a five- or six-page memo     
     coming from the Zylon factory.

1114
00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:35,754
Obviously, I'm not a chemist    
       or mechanical engineer,

1115
00:53:35,795 --> 00:53:37,255
but I can read [chuckles], okay?

1116
00:53:37,297 --> 00:53:39,925
And it's CYA.

1117
00:53:39,966 --> 00:53:41,384
It's a cover-your-ass report.

1118
00:53:41,426 --> 00:53:44,346
Zylon seems to be degrading.

1119
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,807
I said, "We may have problems."

1120
00:55:28,116 --> 00:55:30,785
[Ramin] And did you and Richard 
          test it together?

1121
00:55:30,827 --> 00:55:33,830
Yeah, right here          
        in the shop, we did.

1122
00:55:33,872 --> 00:55:36,291
We took and put a phone book    
            on the floor

1123
00:55:36,333 --> 00:55:39,502
and put the vest over       
   the top of it, and he tried...

1124
00:55:39,544 --> 00:55:41,463
I can't remember          
   what round he was shooting now.

1125
00:55:41,504 --> 00:55:43,048
But anyways, he shot at it,

1126
00:55:43,089 --> 00:55:44,591
and the damn thing         
     went right through the vest

1127
00:55:44,632 --> 00:55:47,218
and the phone book         
         and hit the floor.

1128
00:55:48,928 --> 00:55:50,472
I'm going, "Holy crap."

1129
00:55:51,514 --> 00:55:53,183
If I don't make it through this,

1130
00:55:53,224 --> 00:55:54,893
this does not mean concealed    
       body armor doesn't work

1131
00:55:54,934 --> 00:55:56,394
or Second Chance ain't good.

1132
00:55:56,436 --> 00:55:58,146
It means that I screwed up     
           on a new vest.

1133
00:55:58,188 --> 00:55:59,898
The standard           
         for our body armor is:

1134
00:55:59,939 --> 00:56:02,942
Will I stand there        
     and shoot myself on the chest?

1135
00:56:03,902 --> 00:56:06,654
The answer became: well, maybe.

1136
00:56:06,696 --> 00:56:07,906
[gun cocks]

1137
00:56:16,539 --> 00:56:18,083
Okay, camerapeople.

1138
00:56:19,834 --> 00:56:22,837
Three, two, one.

1139
00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:28,009
[indistinct chatter, chuckling]

1140
00:56:28,051 --> 00:56:30,678
Okay, wow,             
     I felt it, even through...

1141
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:32,097
whew, even through         
          everything else.

1142
00:56:32,138 --> 00:56:34,099
pensive music

1143
00:56:36,893 --> 00:56:38,728
[Kathleen]             
       I thought the Zylon vests

1144
00:56:38,770 --> 00:56:41,272
should have been         
         immediately withdrawn.

1145
00:56:42,899 --> 00:56:45,318
But he didn't think        
           that he could.

1146
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,823
I reminded him that        
    he owned 51% of the company,

1147
00:56:49,864 --> 00:56:52,158
and that up to this point,

1148
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,121
nobody ever told him        
         he couldn't do it.

1149
00:56:58,164 --> 00:56:59,749
[Aaron]              
        Initially, Richard said,

1150
00:56:59,791 --> 00:57:01,960
"Aaron, you're gonna       
             give a talk."

1151
00:57:02,001 --> 00:57:03,878
I had a piece of paper written

1152
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,463
pretty much            
      by Richard Davis saying,

1153
00:57:05,505 --> 00:57:08,049
"This is              
      what's really happening."

1154
00:57:08,091 --> 00:57:09,551
And right beforehand,

1155
00:57:09,592 --> 00:57:11,511
lawyer or the general manager   
          take it from me,

1156
00:57:11,553 --> 00:57:13,388
and I'd be like,          
     "You're kidding me, right?"

1157
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:16,099
And I looked at Richard,      
         and he'd be like...

1158
00:57:17,434 --> 00:57:20,979
[Ramin] This was a memo       
       your dad wrote in 2002.

1159
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:22,480
Would you read it         
           for me, please?

1160
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,776
Yeah.

1161
00:57:27,902 --> 00:57:29,279
Interesting.

1162
00:57:32,490 --> 00:57:34,367
I remember seeing this long ago,

1163
00:57:34,409 --> 00:57:39,456
but, um, been a long time     
          since I saw that.

1164
00:57:41,291 --> 00:57:42,834
Is this dated?

1165
00:57:43,751 --> 00:57:46,296
July 29, 2002.

1166
00:57:48,214 --> 00:57:50,091
[Ramin]              
       In his memo to the board,

1167
00:57:50,133 --> 00:57:53,178
Richard stated that Zylon     
       was degrading much faster

1168
00:57:53,219 --> 00:57:56,222
than the fibers          
 they had previously been using.

1169
00:57:56,264 --> 00:57:58,224
He wanted the board to sign,

1170
00:57:58,266 --> 00:58:01,019
admitting they were        
        selling defective vests

1171
00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:04,272
to unsuspecting          
        American law enforcement

1172
00:58:04,314 --> 00:58:08,526
and military who could be killed 
     or wounded in their products.

1173
00:58:09,110 --> 00:58:13,615
Richard was unable        
       to stand up to the board,

1174
00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:16,117
and ironically,          
        he had put into writing

1175
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:19,204
an unintentional admission    
               of guilt.

1176
00:58:19,245 --> 00:58:23,208
The company knew         
 Zylon was putting lives at risk.

1177
00:58:27,212 --> 00:58:30,173
[Aaron]   Richard must've      
      given out one to everybody,

1178
00:58:30,215 --> 00:58:32,300
and then, uh,           
        it didn't take long.

1179
00:58:32,926 --> 00:58:35,386
Matt came back down        
          and wanted to know,

1180
00:58:35,428 --> 00:58:38,181
"Where's that memo I gave you?"

1181
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:41,351
And I went upstairs. I--

1182
00:58:41,392 --> 00:58:43,269
Upstairs with           
 the other board members, right?

1183
00:58:43,311 --> 00:58:46,689
And there, yeah, sure as heck... 
              [laughs]

1184
00:58:46,731 --> 00:58:48,691
you got the lawyer

1185
00:58:48,733 --> 00:58:50,193
and Matt and Karen,

1186
00:58:50,235 --> 00:58:52,737
and they were putting it      
          in the shredder.

1187
00:58:52,779 --> 00:58:54,906
[Ramin] But how do you know    
     it was that memo and not--

1188
00:58:54,948 --> 00:58:57,534
Because I-I walked in,       
             and it was.

1189
00:58:57,575 --> 00:58:59,369
And, um...

1190
00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:03,248
...I gave him back the memo,    
       but I had a copy of it.

1191
00:59:05,708 --> 00:59:09,837
Richard came home and said,    
       "Somebody's gonna die!"

1192
00:59:09,879 --> 00:59:11,881
And stomping around the den.

1193
00:59:11,923 --> 00:59:14,259
I said, "What are you       
         gonna do about it?

1194
00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:17,178
You must do something about it."

1195
00:59:17,804 --> 00:59:21,975
Richard was just having some   
      sort of a fight in his head,

1196
00:59:22,016 --> 00:59:25,228
and I couldn't touch it,     
        I couldn't deal with it.

1197
00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:28,690
I couldn't do anything.

1198
00:59:28,731 --> 00:59:31,609
Talking to me           
     is like talking to the dog.

1199
00:59:35,655 --> 00:59:38,283
From the time           
        he said that to me...

1200
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:41,536
...it was like            
       somebody pushed a timer

1201
00:59:41,578 --> 00:59:43,121
and it was ticking in my head.

1202
00:59:43,162 --> 00:59:45,123
dramatic music

1203
01:00:02,223 --> 01:00:05,018
[Jamie Zeppetella]         
 The morning after Tony was shot,

1204
01:00:05,059 --> 01:00:08,688
I asked them right away,

1205
01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:11,441
"Did Tony's vest fail?"

1206
01:00:11,482 --> 01:00:13,568
And they told me no.

1207
01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:17,822
I was really just having      
             a hard time

1208
01:00:17,864 --> 01:00:19,073
believing it.

1209
01:00:22,285 --> 01:00:24,287
November of 2002,

1210
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:28,958
a sales representative had been 
   at Oceanside Police Department,

1211
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,170
um, showing the Second Chance

1212
01:00:32,211 --> 01:00:34,172
Zylon vest.

1213
01:00:34,213 --> 01:00:37,717
Tony liked to have the best    
     of everything, equipment-wise.

1214
01:00:38,718 --> 01:00:40,845
Especially having         
           a baby on the way,

1215
01:00:40,887 --> 01:00:43,681
he wanted to be the most     
      protected that he could be.

1216
01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:49,187
The news was on.

1217
01:00:49,228 --> 01:00:53,566
I saw a shot of the officer

1218
01:00:53,608 --> 01:00:57,528
on the gurney.

1219
01:00:57,570 --> 01:00:59,906
He didn't have a shirt on,     
       and I saw his shoulder.

1220
01:01:02,075 --> 01:01:04,869
And I just knew.          
        I knew that was him.

1221
01:01:06,579 --> 01:01:08,790
And now Jakob does have

1222
01:01:08,831 --> 01:01:11,751
the same arm            
      and shoulder as his dad.

1223
01:01:11,793 --> 01:01:13,753
solemn music

1224
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:23,137
[Richard]             
      They kept saying there was,

1225
01:01:23,179 --> 01:01:24,639
there was a hole         
           in the Zylon vest.

1226
01:01:24,681 --> 01:01:26,057
They would not let us       
         see the Zylon vest.

1227
01:01:26,099 --> 01:01:28,059
We never got to see        
        the damn Zylon vest.

1228
01:01:28,101 --> 01:01:29,894
They had a big production     
            after years,

1229
01:01:29,936 --> 01:01:31,354
finally get to see the vest.

1230
01:01:31,396 --> 01:01:32,855
They go into this room.

1231
01:01:32,897 --> 01:01:34,732
There's pictures of the vest    
            laying there.

1232
01:01:35,733 --> 01:01:37,068
And we weren't even        
            allowed to take

1233
01:01:37,110 --> 01:01:38,861
pictures of the pictures.

1234
01:01:38,903 --> 01:01:41,072
And I went,            
 "What the hell's going on here?"

1235
01:01:41,114 --> 01:01:43,908
He got shot on           
    his Second Chance Zylon vest,

1236
01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:45,410
and the bullet stopped.

1237
01:01:45,451 --> 01:01:47,578
The bullet stopped.

1238
01:01:47,620 --> 01:01:51,165
A second shot hit him       
    up on the edge of the cover,

1239
01:01:51,207 --> 01:01:53,584
just barely nicked         
           the-the Zylon.

1240
01:01:53,626 --> 01:01:56,421
Nicked the Zylon          
      and down into his chest.

1241
01:01:56,462 --> 01:01:58,256
And it's back to the old dilemma

1242
01:01:58,297 --> 01:02:01,092
that has been facing armor     
   makers since ancient Babylonia.

1243
01:02:01,134 --> 01:02:02,593
How big do you make the vests?

1244
01:02:02,635 --> 01:02:03,803
Why don't you to come up here,   
              you know?

1245
01:02:03,845 --> 01:02:05,471
Well, what if you get shot here?

1246
01:02:05,513 --> 01:02:07,223
Well, come up to here.       
    "Oh, I can't see," you know.

1247
01:02:07,265 --> 01:02:09,475
[stammers] There's always     
    gonna be an edge of the vest.

1248
01:02:09,517 --> 01:02:11,477
It doesn't go off into       
   infinity of space or anything.

1249
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:13,271
There's gonna be an edge.

1250
01:02:13,980 --> 01:02:19,318
[Jamie]   I actually got to see   
          the vest in person,

1251
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,989
and I could see the holes     
   that went through and through.

1252
01:02:23,030 --> 01:02:25,783
Tony was shot 13 times,

1253
01:02:25,825 --> 01:02:28,411
but he wouldn't have survived   
        even the first shot.

1254
01:02:31,456 --> 01:02:34,375
They, uh, you know,

1255
01:02:34,417 --> 01:02:35,960
just looking for money,      
         that's all it was.

1256
01:02:36,002 --> 01:02:38,796
There was no pen--         
 was no perforation of that vest.

1257
01:02:38,838 --> 01:02:40,757
[Ramin]   Just before        
         we finished the film,

1258
01:02:40,798 --> 01:02:44,385
we were finally granted access 
         to the autopsy report.

1259
01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:47,638
The bullet had gone        
          through and through.

1260
01:02:49,849 --> 01:02:51,893
It's a really sad, sad thing.

1261
01:02:51,934 --> 01:02:56,814
We're very saddened for him,    
         uh, for his family.

1262
01:02:56,856 --> 01:02:58,399
Um...

1263
01:03:00,610 --> 01:03:01,861
Yeah.

1264
01:03:02,862 --> 01:03:05,281
In life, things happen, right?

1265
01:03:05,323 --> 01:03:07,700
Things you don't intend      
            to have happen,

1266
01:03:07,742 --> 01:03:08,951
that have bad repercussions,

1267
01:03:08,993 --> 01:03:11,120
and the same is true        
            in business.

1268
01:03:12,121 --> 01:03:14,874
I believe that God gave man

1269
01:03:14,916 --> 01:03:18,878
the greatest gift possible,    
       and that is free will.

1270
01:03:19,921 --> 01:03:22,965
And when we have free will,

1271
01:03:23,007 --> 01:03:25,343
bad things will happen.

1272
01:03:25,384 --> 01:03:27,345
sullen music

1273
01:03:32,308 --> 01:03:34,560
[Steve Kohn]   If you remember,   
      there was this infamous case

1274
01:03:34,602 --> 01:03:37,146
where Ford was          
         selling the Pinto car.

1275
01:03:37,188 --> 01:03:40,858
They knew the gas tank      
      was in a hazardous position.

1276
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:44,487
They didn't move the gas tank,   
          many people died.

1277
01:03:44,529 --> 01:03:46,405
I'm looking at the same thing   
          in Second Chance.

1278
01:03:48,991 --> 01:03:51,202
When Aaron came to us,

1279
01:03:51,244 --> 01:03:52,787
I had already been        
      representing whistleblowers

1280
01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:54,705
for a long time.

1281
01:03:54,747 --> 01:03:58,209
And he told me what happened,   
   and it took me about 11 minutes

1282
01:03:58,251 --> 01:04:01,546
to realize             
     he had a very strong case.

1283
01:04:02,171 --> 01:04:06,801
If one cop is shot        
       by one person, that's bad.

1284
01:04:06,843 --> 01:04:10,721
But if a company sells       
            100,000 vests

1285
01:04:10,763 --> 01:04:15,643
that don't work          
   to 100,000 innocent policemen,

1286
01:04:15,685 --> 01:04:18,855
you can figure out         
          which was worse.

1287
01:04:21,941 --> 01:04:24,402
[Ramin]   It wasn't long       
 before another officer was shot

1288
01:04:24,443 --> 01:04:26,028
and permanently injured,

1289
01:04:26,070 --> 01:04:29,073
and there were still       
          100,000 Zylon vests

1290
01:04:29,115 --> 01:04:32,577
on the bodies of police      
      and U.S. military overseas,

1291
01:04:32,618 --> 01:04:34,704
and many were rapidly degrading.

1292
01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:39,750
The government asked       
     Aaron Westrick to wear a wire

1293
01:04:39,792 --> 01:04:43,546
against the man          
     whose vest had saved his life.

1294
01:04:43,588 --> 01:04:46,340
They hoped he might        
        convince Richard to flip

1295
01:04:46,382 --> 01:04:49,010
and testify against the board.

1296
01:04:49,051 --> 01:04:50,595
[Aaron]              
             My heart, uh,

1297
01:04:50,636 --> 01:04:52,597
sank, but he goes,         
         "Would you do it?"

1298
01:04:52,638 --> 01:04:53,764
I said, "Yes."

1299
01:04:56,392 --> 01:04:58,769
I would meet with an agent    
              at a hotel,

1300
01:04:58,811 --> 01:05:00,938
just on the outskirts       
           of Traverse City,

1301
01:05:00,980 --> 01:05:03,816
where he would put        
            the wire on me.

1302
01:05:04,817 --> 01:05:07,278
But I didn't like the idea of

1303
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,613
meeting in a place         
           outside of work

1304
01:05:08,654 --> 01:05:10,364
an hour and a half or so      
             beforehand

1305
01:05:10,406 --> 01:05:12,116
so you could get wired up

1306
01:05:12,158 --> 01:05:15,244
and the listening van       
        could get into position,

1307
01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:17,038
like, across the street      
          from Second Chance.

1308
01:05:19,874 --> 01:05:21,334
You look in the mirror      
              and you say,

1309
01:05:21,375 --> 01:05:23,002
"Am I doing the right thing?"

1310
01:05:23,044 --> 01:05:24,962
This is really hard.

1311
01:05:25,004 --> 01:05:26,714
I'm wearing a wire to work.

1312
01:05:26,756 --> 01:05:28,466
I told Aaron once before

1313
01:05:28,507 --> 01:05:30,134
there's certain parts       
        of his body, I think,

1314
01:05:30,176 --> 01:05:33,763
that are bigger than        
   his brains sometimes. [laughs]

1315
01:05:33,804 --> 01:05:35,306
[sighs]

1316
01:05:35,348 --> 01:05:39,185
I think that            
      he really wanted Richard

1317
01:05:39,226 --> 01:05:43,022
to do the right thing       
    and even say the right thing,

1318
01:05:43,064 --> 01:05:44,815
when he had the wire.

1319
01:05:44,857 --> 01:05:46,442
You know, it's-- this is real,

1320
01:05:46,484 --> 01:05:48,027
this is real torture        
      for me to listen to this.

1321
01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:49,403
[Aaron on video]          
       And you wrote a memo, too.

1322
01:05:49,445 --> 01:05:50,821
Yeah.

1323
01:05:50,863 --> 01:05:52,239
Richard just went         
            in the building.

1324
01:05:52,281 --> 01:05:54,825
I'm gonna get him.

1325
01:05:54,867 --> 01:05:56,827
[beep]

1326
01:05:56,869 --> 01:05:58,329
What-what a backstabbing shit.

1327
01:05:58,371 --> 01:05:59,830
[Aaron]              
                Richard.

1328
01:05:59,872 --> 01:06:01,332
Come on, come on, bud.

1329
01:06:01,374 --> 01:06:02,833
Come on over.           
        I want to yak with you.

1330
01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:04,835
[Richard]   There you are.      
            Okay, what's up?

1331
01:06:04,877 --> 01:06:06,671
[Aaron]   I want to make it real   
      clear how I feel about this.

1332
01:06:06,712 --> 01:06:08,172
[Richard]   God, Aaron,       
       if I'm clear on one thing,

1333
01:06:08,214 --> 01:06:10,007
I'm clear how you feel      
              about this.

1334
01:06:10,049 --> 01:06:11,008
[Aaron]   You're in deep shit.    
       I'm telling you right now.

1335
01:06:11,050 --> 01:06:12,259
I kept careful notes.

1336
01:06:12,301 --> 01:06:13,719
[Richard]             
        I-I know you did, Aaron.

1337
01:06:13,761 --> 01:06:14,804
[Aaron]              
      You're in serious trouble--

1338
01:06:14,845 --> 01:06:16,305
[Richard]             
            Aaron, no shit!

1339
01:06:16,347 --> 01:06:17,890
[Aaron]              
     If you come-- but come around

1340
01:06:17,932 --> 01:06:19,558
and-and point the finger     
           where it belongs.

1341
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,435
[Richard]   What the hell      
           you want me to do?

1342
01:06:21,477 --> 01:06:22,353
I mean, I may lose everything   
         I own because of this.

1343
01:06:22,395 --> 01:06:23,854
Everything I own.

1344
01:06:23,896 --> 01:06:25,731
Everything I own         
         I put into this thing.

1345
01:06:25,773 --> 01:06:27,525
What am I supposed to do,     
 set myself on fire or something?

1346
01:06:27,566 --> 01:06:28,484
-[Aaron]   I don't want you to--   
         -[Richard]   I mean,

1347
01:06:28,526 --> 01:06:29,568
what-what can I do?

1348
01:06:29,610 --> 01:06:30,653
We should've acted faster.

1349
01:06:30,695 --> 01:06:31,737
That-That's absolute fact.

1350
01:06:31,779 --> 01:06:32,697
Put a billboard out there.

1351
01:06:32,738 --> 01:06:33,739
Should've acted faster.

1352
01:06:33,781 --> 01:06:35,491
I'm sorry we didn't act faster.

1353
01:06:35,533 --> 01:06:37,326
The abso-absolute truth is    
          we got overwhelmed.

1354
01:06:37,368 --> 01:06:39,537
It's like when I told--      
      was told my dad had cancer.

1355
01:06:39,578 --> 01:06:40,746
I-I didn't want          
        to believe it at first.

1356
01:06:40,788 --> 01:06:42,415
It was too enormous.

1357
01:06:42,456 --> 01:06:44,417
It's terminal cancer.

1358
01:06:44,458 --> 01:06:46,252
We're told, we're told that    
     our vest had terminal cancer.

1359
01:06:46,293 --> 01:06:48,254
So we kept looking around.

1360
01:06:48,295 --> 01:06:50,047
Is there some way, some way    
     we can get out of this thing?

1361
01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:51,424
[Aaron]   But what about the vests 
        that were already made?

1362
01:06:51,465 --> 01:06:53,175
[Richard]             
         That's the past, okay?

1363
01:06:53,217 --> 01:06:55,302
Right now, today, what's     
       the best course of action?

1364
01:06:55,344 --> 01:06:58,514
I'm trying to do right now    
     is to save 250 jobs. You know?

1365
01:06:58,556 --> 01:07:00,391
I got all these people      
     who are gonna be out of work.

1366
01:07:00,433 --> 01:07:02,143
What are you gonna do?

1367
01:07:02,184 --> 01:07:03,561
How we gonna save         
       Second Chance Body Armor?

1368
01:07:03,602 --> 01:07:04,729
[Aaron]              
       I know what you're saying,

1369
01:07:04,770 --> 01:07:06,188
but the truth of the matter is

1370
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:07,898
our Second Chance vests      
              have failed.

1371
01:07:07,940 --> 01:07:09,191
[Richard]             
        I know this, okay? Okay?

1372
01:07:09,233 --> 01:07:10,693
You all set with that now?

1373
01:07:10,735 --> 01:07:11,694
We got that,           
         got that established?

1374
01:07:11,736 --> 01:07:13,654
I'm pissed off, okay?

1375
01:07:13,696 --> 01:07:15,364
Everything he's saying there,   
       he's trying to set me up.

1376
01:07:15,406 --> 01:07:16,741
It's-it's like playing a game   
             of Simon Says,

1377
01:07:16,782 --> 01:07:18,367
only you don't know        
           you're playing.

1378
01:07:18,409 --> 01:07:21,287
If I would've had one little    
      moment of moral weakness

1379
01:07:21,328 --> 01:07:22,955
and said, "Yeah, well,       
   let's see what you want to do.

1380
01:07:22,997 --> 01:07:24,874
Let's do that.           
        Let's do that then."

1381
01:07:24,915 --> 01:07:26,834
And I'd be going to prison.

1382
01:07:26,876 --> 01:07:28,377
Prison.

1383
01:07:28,419 --> 01:07:30,421
The guy who saved         
   hundreds of American policemen

1384
01:07:30,463 --> 01:07:33,340
goes into a prison,        
     what's gonna happen to him?

1385
01:07:33,382 --> 01:07:35,760
How many hours           
       do you think I'd last?

1386
01:07:35,801 --> 01:07:37,386
I think-- And he knew that.

1387
01:07:37,428 --> 01:07:38,888
[Aaron]   What do you want me    
            to do, Richard?

1388
01:07:38,929 --> 01:07:40,765
Do you want me to lie       
            in front of you?

1389
01:07:40,806 --> 01:07:42,558
[Richard]   No, I don't want you   
         to lie in front of me.

1390
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,435
Don't lie about anything.     
         Don't lie, don't lie.

1391
01:07:44,477 --> 01:07:45,853
All-all I can ask you is to--   
         once a long time ago,

1392
01:07:45,895 --> 01:07:47,354
Second Chance saved your life.

1393
01:07:47,396 --> 01:07:49,273
Now you got to save        
             Second Chance.

1394
01:07:52,193 --> 01:07:54,153
somber music

1395
01:08:04,455 --> 01:08:06,874
[Ramin] Do you think        
      Richard was motivated by

1396
01:08:06,916 --> 01:08:08,375
money in his life?

1397
01:08:08,417 --> 01:08:10,753
No, he was motivated by passion.

1398
01:08:10,795 --> 01:08:15,091
The vests were          
         his reason for being.

1399
01:08:15,132 --> 01:08:18,135
And, um, and it failed.

1400
01:08:28,062 --> 01:08:30,189
[Kim]   I didn't know        
        it was gonna be as hard

1401
01:08:30,231 --> 01:08:31,649
as what it was.

1402
01:08:32,233 --> 01:08:36,278
You know, we saw people      
         steal our garbage.

1403
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,490
I guess that's how         
 they try to find dirt on people.

1404
01:08:39,532 --> 01:08:42,201
I mean, who else          
      would steal our garbage?

1405
01:08:42,243 --> 01:08:44,078
I always told the kids,      
        you know, you come home,

1406
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,122
you see a strange car       
           parked on the road

1407
01:08:46,163 --> 01:08:47,289
that you don't recognize,

1408
01:08:47,331 --> 01:08:48,666
don't go home.

1409
01:08:48,707 --> 01:08:52,002
Go to the neighbors and call me.

1410
01:08:52,628 --> 01:08:56,465
I didn't feel like        
       I could maybe talk to him

1411
01:08:56,507 --> 01:08:59,718
about things that I needed to, 
              because I...

1412
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,428
A, I didn't think         
          I would be heard,

1413
01:09:01,470 --> 01:09:04,223
and B, he was already       
          stressed enough.

1414
01:09:04,265 --> 01:09:08,102
But I don't blame Aaron      
        for taking down Richard.

1415
01:09:08,144 --> 01:09:11,647
Richard did that to himself    
     by not doing the right thing.

1416
01:09:11,689 --> 01:09:15,442
It is ironic that, you know,    
     he saved Aaron on one end,

1417
01:09:15,484 --> 01:09:19,822
and in the end, I suppose     
   Richard couldn't save himself.

1418
01:10:01,655 --> 01:10:03,699
[Ramin] So how do you manage    
          your health care

1419
01:10:03,741 --> 01:10:06,285
from 2004 until now?

1420
01:10:29,308 --> 01:10:31,602
[Ramin]   When you think back    
        to shooting that Magnum

1421
01:10:31,644 --> 01:10:34,188
and you had so much power,

1422
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:35,773
and now you could have       
          anything you want

1423
01:10:35,814 --> 01:10:37,441
that would make you feel      
           that way again,

1424
01:10:37,483 --> 01:10:39,193
-what would it be?         
           -[sobs softly]

1425
01:10:40,486 --> 01:10:42,655
[sobs, sniffles]

1426
01:10:49,662 --> 01:10:51,789
[Ramin]              
   What would you do differently?

1427
01:10:54,833 --> 01:10:57,544
[sighs, sniffles]

1428
01:11:05,678 --> 01:11:07,638
somber music

1429
01:11:17,481 --> 01:11:19,441
Second Chance Body Armor

1430
01:11:19,483 --> 01:11:21,652
may have known           
      its product was defective

1431
01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:23,362
before the shootings.

1432
01:11:23,404 --> 01:11:24,989
A company in Michigan       
           knowingly sold

1433
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:27,116
defective bulletproof vests

1434
01:11:27,157 --> 01:11:29,451
to federal officials        
     and even to President Bush.

1435
01:11:29,493 --> 01:11:32,371
[cheering, applause]

1436
01:11:33,372 --> 01:11:34,957
[Ramin]              
         Besieged by lawsuits,

1437
01:11:34,999 --> 01:11:37,584
Second Chance           
       and the Zylon manufacturer

1438
01:11:37,626 --> 01:11:39,295
agreed to pay           
        over $2 million dollars

1439
01:11:39,336 --> 01:11:42,339
to the family           
     of the officer who was slain.

1440
01:11:42,381 --> 01:11:45,175
Both companies denied       
            all culpability.

1441
01:11:46,468 --> 01:11:48,512
And in their lawsuit       
          with Aaron Westrick

1442
01:11:48,554 --> 01:11:50,347
and the United States       
              government,

1443
01:11:50,389 --> 01:11:53,017
they paid over          
          $65 million dollars.

1444
01:11:53,058 --> 01:11:55,519
A small fraction went to Aaron.

1445
01:11:55,561 --> 01:11:58,105
Second Chance           
          declared bankruptcy.

1446
01:11:58,147 --> 01:12:00,316
The executives did no jail time,

1447
01:12:00,357 --> 01:12:03,652
and many wound up in mansions   
          by the Great Lakes.

1448
01:12:03,694 --> 01:12:06,822
But legal fees          
          broke Richard apart.

1449
01:12:06,864 --> 01:12:10,284
His marriage to Kathleen     
           ended in divorce,

1450
01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:13,120
he lost the company        
     he had spent decades building,

1451
01:12:13,162 --> 01:12:15,914
and he had a heart attack.

1452
01:12:15,956 --> 01:12:18,375
I bankrupted my damn company,   
          for God's sakes.

1453
01:12:18,417 --> 01:12:20,044
I bankrupted the company      
          solving a problem

1454
01:12:20,085 --> 01:12:21,628
that I didn't cause.

1455
01:12:21,670 --> 01:12:23,714
And I get rattled--        
     hassled here in the street

1456
01:12:23,756 --> 01:12:25,215
like I'm some kind of criminal.

1457
01:12:25,257 --> 01:12:27,760
I went-- I'm bankrupt, okay?    
           I got nothing.

1458
01:12:27,801 --> 01:12:30,304
That was definitely, uh,      
          not a high point.

1459
01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:32,097
Um...

1460
01:12:32,139 --> 01:12:33,640
Yeah, definitely not        
            a high point.

1461
01:12:33,682 --> 01:12:36,310
But I-I just--           
    I didn't take it lying down.

1462
01:12:36,352 --> 01:12:37,561
I started up           
        a new body armor company

1463
01:12:37,603 --> 01:12:39,063
called Armor Express,

1464
01:12:39,104 --> 01:12:40,856
and it's trying to take in     
            all the glory

1465
01:12:40,898 --> 01:12:43,233
that Second Chance was       
      and all the good service

1466
01:12:43,275 --> 01:12:45,194
and all the good reputation    
           we'd built up.

1467
01:12:45,235 --> 01:12:47,029
I wanted to transfer that     
       over to Armor Express.

1468
01:12:47,071 --> 01:12:48,447
That's not an easy thing to do.

1469
01:12:49,448 --> 01:12:51,158
We had to carry on tradition.

1470
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,410
I was gonna shoot Matt.

1471
01:12:55,245 --> 01:12:56,663
And I just couldn't do it.

1472
01:12:56,705 --> 01:12:58,165
I can't do it.

1473
01:12:58,207 --> 01:13:00,501
I don't have to do this      
             to my own son.

1474
01:13:00,542 --> 01:13:04,546
But then Matt picks up the gun, 
        says, "I'll go, Dad."

1475
01:13:04,588 --> 01:13:06,048
Oh, geez.

1476
01:13:06,090 --> 01:13:07,925
That's just, uh...         
       I was so proud of him.

1477
01:13:07,966 --> 01:13:09,259
I was so scared.

1478
01:13:09,301 --> 01:13:11,470
-Go ahead, go ahead.        
             -Two, one.

1479
01:13:13,263 --> 01:13:14,932
Oh, Jesus.

1480
01:13:14,973 --> 01:13:17,518
[sobbing]

1481
01:13:17,559 --> 01:13:19,603
[Ramin]   The tragedies       
        that ended Second Chance

1482
01:13:19,645 --> 01:13:21,522
were forgotten.

1483
01:13:21,563 --> 01:13:24,108
With his father's support,    
      Matt started Armor Express.

1484
01:13:26,068 --> 01:13:28,529
And in a decade,         
 it had become one of the biggest

1485
01:13:28,570 --> 01:13:31,365
body armor companies       
             in the world.

1486
01:13:31,407 --> 01:13:33,367
dramatic orchestral music

1487
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:40,290
And Matt began producing     
             his own films.

1488
01:14:00,978 --> 01:14:03,313
[Matt]               
          My father's legacy,

1489
01:14:03,355 --> 01:14:05,399
it's a legacy about        
         entrepreneurship...

1490
01:14:06,942 --> 01:14:09,319
...controversy, storytelling.

1491
01:14:09,361 --> 01:14:11,280
It's a legacy about

1492
01:14:11,321 --> 01:14:14,116
the phoenix            
       rising from the ashes.

1493
01:14:14,158 --> 01:14:16,869
dramatic music

1494
01:14:48,817 --> 01:14:51,195
[Ramin]              
     When you think back to it now,

1495
01:14:51,236 --> 01:14:54,907
do you feel like         
          your role was fated?

1496
01:14:56,033 --> 01:14:58,368
Has it all been determined?

1497
01:15:00,245 --> 01:15:02,372
[Aaron]              
        My middle name is Jude,

1498
01:15:02,414 --> 01:15:04,625
and that's the saint       
           for the hopeless,

1499
01:15:04,666 --> 01:15:06,835
the helpless causes.

1500
01:15:06,877 --> 01:15:08,962
And the kind of family I had,

1501
01:15:09,004 --> 01:15:10,672
I was pointed towards       
            the priesthood.

1502
01:15:10,714 --> 01:15:12,925
[Ramin]              
   Why didn't you become a priest?

1503
01:15:12,966 --> 01:15:16,970
[laughs] Well, I just decided   
       not to become a priest,

1504
01:15:17,012 --> 01:15:18,430
when it's all said and done,

1505
01:15:18,472 --> 01:15:22,893
because I do believe        
        that some persons...

1506
01:15:24,144 --> 01:15:27,105
...need to be shown the way.

1507
01:15:27,147 --> 01:15:29,233
Or guided, if you get my point.

1508
01:15:29,274 --> 01:15:33,403
I'm not a heavy-handed person,   
   but there comes a time when...

1509
01:15:34,112 --> 01:15:37,407
...there comes a time when you, 
   uh, you got to stop some people

1510
01:15:37,449 --> 01:15:39,576
from hurting other people.

1511
01:15:39,618 --> 01:15:41,912
[indistinct chatter]

1512
01:15:41,954 --> 01:15:45,332
I believed in his cause      
              at the time.

1513
01:15:45,374 --> 01:15:47,876
My faith is a little shaken.

1514
01:15:47,918 --> 01:15:50,420
But I still see good        
          in Richard Davis.

1515
01:15:52,339 --> 01:15:55,425
Sometimes I miss Richard,     
 and I-I think I've said before,

1516
01:15:55,467 --> 01:15:57,594
in my heart,            
        we're still friends.

1517
01:16:00,639 --> 01:16:02,224
Yeah.

1518
01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:03,600
[interviewer]           
      Will you tell us your name?

1519
01:16:03,642 --> 01:16:05,519
-[Aaron]   Uh, Aaron Westrick.    
              -[groans]

1520
01:16:05,561 --> 01:16:07,604
-Why you torment me like this?   
      -[interviewer]   On the day

1521
01:16:07,646 --> 01:16:09,231
in question,           
      were you wearing body armor?

1522
01:16:09,273 --> 01:16:10,941
-Yes, I was.           
              -What type?

1523
01:16:10,983 --> 01:16:12,609
Wearing a Second Chance.

1524
01:16:12,651 --> 01:16:14,778
Uh, believe it would be      
         a T-shirt model vest.

1525
01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:17,072
[interviewer]   How did you come   
      into possession of the vest?

1526
01:16:17,114 --> 01:16:19,074
somber music

1527
01:16:22,744 --> 01:16:24,496
[Ramin] And, Richard,       
      what happened to the man

1528
01:16:24,538 --> 01:16:26,123
who shot Aaron?

1529
01:16:26,164 --> 01:16:28,584
[Richard]             
      I heard he was killed later.

1530
01:16:28,625 --> 01:16:31,712
He was, uh, guarding       
        a drug pad of some kind,

1531
01:16:31,753 --> 01:16:33,797
and police made a raid and he   
 resisted and somebody shot him.

1532
01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:56,153
[Aaron on video]          
        Don't move! Don't move.

1533
01:16:57,988 --> 01:16:59,615
You breathe wrong,         
           I'll kill you.

1534
01:16:59,656 --> 01:17:01,408
You breathe            
        wrong, I'll kill you!

1535
01:17:01,450 --> 01:17:02,659
[assailant]            
           Okay, you got me.

1536
01:17:02,701 --> 01:17:04,411
That's bullshit.

1537
01:17:04,453 --> 01:17:06,455
He didn't say nothing cocky.

1538
01:17:06,496 --> 01:17:08,832
He watching too much        
            Starsky & Hutch.

1539
01:17:08,874 --> 01:17:10,500
But, no, he didn't         
        act like that at all.

1540
01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:12,628
He said,              
      "Lord, don't let me die."

1541
01:17:12,669 --> 01:17:14,087
I remember that.

1542
01:17:15,464 --> 01:17:17,341
[chuckles] He did.

1543
01:17:18,967 --> 01:17:20,302
I'm Clifford Washington.

1544
01:17:21,303 --> 01:17:23,513
I'm an assistant professor.

1545
01:17:23,555 --> 01:17:25,766
I am a-a minister.

1546
01:17:25,807 --> 01:17:30,646
Uh, I love fishing and hunting, 
         riding motorcycles,

1547
01:17:30,687 --> 01:17:33,482
and I am the man          
      that shot Aaron Westrick.

1548
01:17:34,691 --> 01:17:37,361
In life, I learned that...

1549
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,075
...we make mistakes sometime,

1550
01:17:43,116 --> 01:17:46,870
but very seldom          
     do we get an opportunity...

1551
01:17:48,997 --> 01:17:51,917
...to right those wrongs,

1552
01:17:51,958 --> 01:17:55,128
and I'd like to think       
     that's what I'm doing now.

1553
01:17:55,170 --> 01:17:56,296
Really.

1554
01:17:56,338 --> 01:17:57,589
Um...

1555
01:17:57,631 --> 01:17:59,007
I knew better.

1556
01:17:59,049 --> 01:18:01,176
I knew not to point a gun     
             at someone

1557
01:18:01,218 --> 01:18:03,220
because, uh, from the time     
            I could walk,

1558
01:18:03,261 --> 01:18:05,263
I was hunting with a BB gun,

1559
01:18:05,305 --> 01:18:07,391
a .22 shotgun.

1560
01:18:07,432 --> 01:18:10,102
And you know what?

1561
01:18:10,143 --> 01:18:11,687
I had excellent grades.

1562
01:18:11,728 --> 01:18:13,063
I don't say this often,

1563
01:18:13,105 --> 01:18:15,190
but during             
      my undergraduate degree,

1564
01:18:15,232 --> 01:18:16,692
every exam I took,

1565
01:18:16,733 --> 01:18:19,569
I was stoned,           
         blown out my gourd.

1566
01:18:19,611 --> 01:18:21,488
I got A's in everything.

1567
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:27,869
I was, uh, involved in       
      a breaking and entering,

1568
01:18:27,911 --> 01:18:30,414
and, um, someone heard us,

1569
01:18:30,455 --> 01:18:32,290
and they called          
         the law enforcement

1570
01:18:32,332 --> 01:18:34,251
like they were supposed to do.

1571
01:18:34,292 --> 01:18:38,422
And Aaron, uh, was the first one 
     that arrived on the scene.

1572
01:18:39,589 --> 01:18:43,218
And, um, I didn't want       
           to go to jail.

1573
01:18:43,260 --> 01:18:46,888
And, uh, he asked me to stop,   
           and I shot him.

1574
01:18:46,930 --> 01:18:49,141
At the same time,         
         he was shooting me.

1575
01:18:49,182 --> 01:18:52,144
The first shot went in here    
         and came out there.

1576
01:18:52,185 --> 01:18:54,020
So they had to cut it       
            right there.

1577
01:18:54,062 --> 01:18:56,148
And then this one

1578
01:18:56,189 --> 01:19:00,610
went in here            
     and it came out back here.

1579
01:19:00,652 --> 01:19:02,529
[Ramin]              
        And what did you feel

1580
01:19:02,571 --> 01:19:04,281
in the moment           
       of pulling the trigger?

1581
01:19:04,322 --> 01:19:06,783
Horrible. Just horrible, man.

1582
01:19:06,825 --> 01:19:09,619
Yeah. I-I knew-- you know what?

1583
01:19:09,661 --> 01:19:12,122
If I had the balls,        
    I would've put it in my mouth

1584
01:19:12,164 --> 01:19:14,124
and pulled the trigger.

1585
01:19:14,166 --> 01:19:16,710
I-I just-- That was--       
        That's horrible, man.

1586
01:19:16,752 --> 01:19:19,421
Nothing... horrible feeling.

1587
01:19:19,463 --> 01:19:21,256
Horrible, horrible, horrible.

1588
01:19:21,298 --> 01:19:23,133
I'm-I'm just so...

1589
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:29,055
...torn,

1590
01:19:29,097 --> 01:19:33,894
[voice breaking]          
 even now, all these years later.

1591
01:19:33,935 --> 01:19:36,605
It's horrible, man.

1592
01:19:36,646 --> 01:19:38,815
I just can't believe I did that.

1593
01:19:42,486 --> 01:19:44,571
Cannot believe I did that.

1594
01:19:46,531 --> 01:19:47,616
[sniffles]

1595
01:19:47,657 --> 01:19:48,992
And I'm just...

1596
01:19:55,123 --> 01:19:57,292
And then my dad,         
         he came up that night,

1597
01:19:57,334 --> 01:20:00,462
[sniffling]            
       'cause he was a pastor,

1598
01:20:00,504 --> 01:20:03,673
and, uh,              
      I remember him saying...

1599
01:20:05,425 --> 01:20:08,345
"You got a new lease on life."

1600
01:20:08,970 --> 01:20:12,474
Do you think you will ever     
    be able to forgive yourself?

1601
01:20:14,684 --> 01:20:16,144
[sniffles]

1602
01:20:18,522 --> 01:20:20,398
That's a tough question.

1603
01:20:29,074 --> 01:20:31,701
We are going to the location    
         where 40 years ago,

1604
01:20:31,743 --> 01:20:35,038
Clifford Washington and I     
          shot one another.

1605
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,040
soft music

1606
01:20:43,255 --> 01:20:45,340
[Ramin]   Clifford and Aaron     
            had not had time

1607
01:20:45,382 --> 01:20:47,676
to reflect that          
      since shooting one another,

1608
01:20:47,717 --> 01:20:49,678
they had both become       
           college professors

1609
01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:51,555
in Northern Michigan,

1610
01:20:51,596 --> 01:20:54,850
or that Clifford, while serving   
          15 years in prison,

1611
01:20:54,891 --> 01:20:58,728
had fulfilled Aaron's childhood   
      dream of becoming a pastor.

1612
01:20:59,938 --> 01:21:01,898
melancholy music

1613
01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:11,908
[birds chirping]

1614
01:21:21,334 --> 01:21:22,919
-How you doing, man?        
          -[Aaron chuckles]

1615
01:21:22,961 --> 01:21:25,714
How are you doing?

1616
01:21:25,755 --> 01:21:27,966
-[laughing]            
            -Wow. Aaron.

1617
01:21:31,970 --> 01:21:34,931
[Clifford sobbing]         
            I'm so sorry!

1618
01:21:36,641 --> 01:21:38,602
So sorry.

1619
01:21:38,643 --> 01:21:40,437
[sniffling]

1620
01:21:41,313 --> 01:21:43,940
I'm sorry. [sniffling]

1621
01:21:43,982 --> 01:21:45,775
It's all right.

1622
01:21:47,736 --> 01:21:48,862
Starting anew.

1623
01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:50,614
This is all new. It's okay.

1624
01:21:50,655 --> 01:21:52,699
[sniffling]

1625
01:21:57,412 --> 01:21:58,663
Thank you.

1626
01:22:03,835 --> 01:22:06,671
I had a-a screw          
         replaced in my leg

1627
01:22:06,713 --> 01:22:08,465
-about three weeks ago.      
               -Yeah.

1628
01:22:08,506 --> 01:22:10,050
I remember in court        
          you had a walker.

1629
01:22:10,091 --> 01:22:12,302
-Yeah.               
         -Yeah, I did that.

1630
01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:15,805
I remember the day I was      
     gonna fall. Remember that?

1631
01:22:15,847 --> 01:22:17,432
Down them back steps?

1632
01:22:17,474 --> 01:22:20,352
In 1982, we were going to court.

1633
01:22:20,393 --> 01:22:22,270
I had a walker,

1634
01:22:22,312 --> 01:22:24,230
and I was slipping and falling.

1635
01:22:24,272 --> 01:22:25,523
I was gonna fall down.

1636
01:22:25,565 --> 01:22:27,067
I looked.

1637
01:22:27,108 --> 01:22:30,070
Bunch of steel and cement steps.

1638
01:22:30,111 --> 01:22:32,864
Somebody grabbed me,        
           just like this.

1639
01:22:34,991 --> 01:22:36,493
It was Aaron.

1640
01:22:37,994 --> 01:22:39,829
He stopped me from falling.

1641
01:22:39,871 --> 01:22:41,665
Kept me from falling.

1642
01:22:42,666 --> 01:22:45,001
[chuckles] I remember that.

1643
01:22:48,838 --> 01:22:50,799
And I-I would never forget that.

1644
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,551
I can forget everything,      
       I'll never forget that.

1645
01:22:56,304 --> 01:22:58,264
melancholy music

1646
01:23:05,563 --> 01:23:07,691
[Richard]   If a great white light 
          comes over the world

1647
01:23:07,732 --> 01:23:10,193
and nobody's shooting       
            anybody anymore,

1648
01:23:10,235 --> 01:23:11,987
we'd be out of business.

1649
01:23:12,946 --> 01:23:14,948
That-that ain't gonna happen.

1650
01:23:14,990 --> 01:23:17,826
You look at animals in the wild,

1651
01:23:17,867 --> 01:23:20,704
the horses and the cows      
    and the deer and everything,

1652
01:23:20,745 --> 01:23:22,622
they got eyes out on the sides   
           of their heads

1653
01:23:22,664 --> 01:23:24,541
so they can look, look all,    
        look all around them

1654
01:23:24,582 --> 01:23:26,710
and see-see if any threats     
             are coming.

1655
01:23:26,751 --> 01:23:30,880
The eagles and the lions      
    and tigers and the predators,

1656
01:23:30,922 --> 01:23:32,590
they got eyes right here      
             like we do.

1657
01:23:32,632 --> 01:23:34,134
Like we do. We're predators.

1658
01:23:34,175 --> 01:23:36,136
We focus in on something.

1659
01:23:36,177 --> 01:23:38,013
We focus in on something      
          we're gonna kill.

1660
01:23:38,054 --> 01:23:39,931
And that's what man's been doing

1661
01:23:39,973 --> 01:23:43,018
for, uh, you know, thousands--   
   hundreds of thousands of years.

1662
01:23:43,059 --> 01:23:45,020
soft music

1663
01:23:50,233 --> 01:23:52,360
[Ramin]   In my final encounter   
             with Richard,

1664
01:23:52,402 --> 01:23:55,321
I brought him back        
 to the alleyway of his origins.

1665
01:23:56,740 --> 01:23:59,242
There is a truth         
         to Richard's reality,

1666
01:23:59,284 --> 01:24:01,911
as unpleasant as it sounds.

1667
01:24:01,953 --> 01:24:05,081
For every moment that man     
       prevents man from falling,

1668
01:24:05,123 --> 01:24:09,919
there seem to be countless more   
 examples of violence, brutality.

1669
01:24:11,421 --> 01:24:13,131
-You're wearing a vest now?    
               -Yeah.

1670
01:24:13,173 --> 01:24:14,716
Why?

1671
01:24:14,758 --> 01:24:16,426
I don't know. [laughs]

1672
01:24:16,468 --> 01:24:18,428
If I knew, I wouldn't       
        have to do anything.

1673
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:21,222
Are you concerned         
      you may be shot at today?

1674
01:24:21,264 --> 01:24:23,224
Yeah, it ent--           
         it entered my mind,

1675
01:24:23,266 --> 01:24:26,186
since I've been shot        
    right here before, you know?

1676
01:24:26,227 --> 01:24:29,105
This is the place of death.    
         Kind of a scary place.

1677
01:24:29,147 --> 01:24:31,524
I made-made it          
        out of this place once,

1678
01:24:31,566 --> 01:24:33,568
and I want to do it again.

1679
01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:37,530
[Ramin]   If you could        
          go back in time now

1680
01:24:37,572 --> 01:24:39,532
and meet              
      the young Richard Davis,

1681
01:24:39,574 --> 01:24:41,242
-what would you tell him?     
             -[chuckles]

1682
01:24:41,284 --> 01:24:43,161
Carry a couple more guns      
         with you. [laughs]

1683
01:24:43,203 --> 01:24:44,287
Bigger gun, more ammo.

1684
01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:53,296
[Ramin]              
          Richard, what is it

1685
01:24:53,338 --> 01:24:56,883
you're the most afraid of     
            in this life?

1686
01:24:56,925 --> 01:24:59,094
Nothing. [laughs]

1687
01:24:59,135 --> 01:25:01,888
No. You know, really,       
        getting old, going--

1688
01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:04,307
growing old 'cause you-you can   
     break an arm and get shot,

1689
01:25:04,349 --> 01:25:05,934
and you can recover from that.

1690
01:25:05,975 --> 01:25:08,561
Getting old, every day,      
       it's coming, you know.

1691
01:25:08,603 --> 01:25:10,313
Father Time's coming after you.

1692
01:25:20,907 --> 01:25:24,577
He belongs to           
      the Immortalist Society,

1693
01:25:24,619 --> 01:25:28,665
and, um, he's going to have    
          his head removed

1694
01:25:28,706 --> 01:25:30,875
and cryonically preserved.

1695
01:25:32,544 --> 01:25:36,589
And he said that I might want   
        to think about that.

1696
01:25:36,631 --> 01:25:38,758
And I remember it         
           because I said,

1697
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,176
"It's January.

1698
01:25:40,218 --> 01:25:42,387
Can we talk about this       
           in the summer?"

1699
01:25:42,428 --> 01:25:43,680
[laughs]

1700
01:25:43,721 --> 01:25:45,682
somber music

1701
01:25:49,978 --> 01:25:52,689
[Ramin]   While sitting under    
       the painting of Iwo Jima,

1702
01:25:52,730 --> 01:25:54,732
Richard told me          
          that in the future,

1703
01:25:54,774 --> 01:25:59,112
when his frozen head was thawed   
     and attached to a robot torso,

1704
01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:03,658
that his one desire would be   
      to create better body armor.

1705
01:26:03,700 --> 01:26:05,535
[Richard]             
     Armor makers of the future are

1706
01:26:05,577 --> 01:26:07,537
gonna contend with weapons    
      that'll just keep punching.

1707
01:26:07,579 --> 01:26:10,999
Instead of just one big hit,   
     they just keep drilling away.

1708
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,042
You got to have something     
      that'll intercept the energy

1709
01:26:13,084 --> 01:26:14,836
and turn around          
       and use it against itself.

1710
01:26:14,878 --> 01:26:17,005
Throw the energy beam       
       back into the energy beam

1711
01:26:17,046 --> 01:26:19,215
and tear apart the guys      
      who are shooting it at you.

1712
01:26:19,257 --> 01:26:20,842
It serves 'em right.

1713
01:26:26,681 --> 01:26:30,393
[gun clicking slowly]

1714
01:26:40,111 --> 01:26:42,197
[clicking continues]

1715
01:27:00,632 --> 01:27:01,925
[gun clicks]

1716
01:27:07,555 --> 01:27:12,393
Well, won't somebody tell me

1717
01:27:12,435 --> 01:27:16,147
Answer if you can

1718
01:27:16,189 --> 01:27:19,651
Won't somebody tell me

1719
01:27:19,692 --> 01:27:23,279
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1720
01:27:23,321 --> 01:27:26,950
I'm going to ask        
             the question

1721
01:27:26,991 --> 01:27:30,787
Please answer if you can

1722
01:27:30,828 --> 01:27:34,290
If anybody surely        
             can tell me

1723
01:27:34,332 --> 01:27:37,085
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1724
01:27:37,126 --> 01:27:41,172
Well, won't somebody tell me

1725
01:27:41,214 --> 01:27:44,467
Answer if you can

1726
01:27:44,509 --> 01:27:48,221
I want somebody to tell me

1727
01:27:48,263 --> 01:27:52,016
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1728
01:27:52,058 --> 01:27:55,645
I traveled           
         different countries

1729
01:27:55,687 --> 01:27:59,440
I've traveled          
           in foreign lands

1730
01:27:59,482 --> 01:28:03,152
I've found nobody        
            could tell me

1731
01:28:03,194 --> 01:28:05,863
Just what about the soul    
               of a man

1732
01:28:05,905 --> 01:28:09,993
Well, won't somebody tell me

1733
01:28:10,034 --> 01:28:13,204
Answer if you can

1734
01:28:13,246 --> 01:28:16,958
I want somebody to tell me

1735
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,379
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1736
01:28:21,421 --> 01:28:25,216
I saw a crowd stand talking

1737
01:28:25,258 --> 01:28:28,928
I just came up in time

1738
01:28:28,970 --> 01:28:32,348
Was teaching the lawyer,    
              the doctor

1739
01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:35,435
Well, a man ain't nothing    
             but his mind

1740
01:28:35,476 --> 01:28:39,564
Well, won't somebody tell me

1741
01:28:39,605 --> 01:28:42,734
Answer if you can

1742
01:28:42,775 --> 01:28:46,571
I want somebody to tell me

1743
01:28:46,612 --> 01:28:49,365
Just what is the soul      
               of a man

1744
01:28:49,407 --> 01:28:53,536
Well, won't somebody tell me

1745
01:28:53,578 --> 01:28:56,873
Answer if you can

1746
01:28:56,914 --> 01:29:00,668
I want somebody to tell me

1747
01:29:00,710 --> 01:29:04,380
Just what is the soul      
               of a man