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<font color="#ffffff">Ireland's ancient</font>
<font color="#ffffff">monuments are majestic...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..spiritual.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Sacred sites that connect us</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to our earliest ancestors.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Well, at least that's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">what I was always told.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">RECORD SCRATCH</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Our small island is full</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of mysterious sites like this one.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">We think of them</font>
<font color="#ffffff">as the sacred places,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and I suppose they are.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But the story I'm about</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to discover is not exactly sacred.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">No, it's sacrilegious, if anything.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In the 1930s,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">just a few generations ago,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">the secrets found in places</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like this were at the centre</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">of an epic quest.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Not a quest for gold or treasure,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">but to explain the very origins of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the earliest people in Ireland.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">A quest, no less,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to find out who we are</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and where we came from.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It was a time when intrepid</font>
<font color="#ffffff">explorers were digging for treasure</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">around the world.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">For the next big find,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">all eyes were on Ireland.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But partition was barely</font>
<font color="#ffffff">ten years old.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Northern Ireland and the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Irish Free State were busy forging</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">new identities.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In both states,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a feverish search began.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">One place to look</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was the ancient past.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And it all kicked off here</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in the hallowed landscape</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">of County Sligo.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In 1931, an American professor</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from Harvard University,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">he inspected these monuments,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">wondering if Ireland</font>
<font color="#ffffff">would be the place</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">for his next big dig.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Needless to say, he was hooked.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And why wouldn't he be?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">This moment triggered</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an archaeological frenzy.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Both north and south of the border,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">excavation teams raced</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to unearth evidence of the</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">first Irish men and women.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Unearthing THIS story will take me</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to some unexpected places.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">This is literally</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the end of the world.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me</font>
<font color="#ffffff">if we actually find some</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">ancient Celts up here.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I'll experience</font>
<font color="#ffffff">some strange science...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Oh, she's only reading</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the instructions now.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..uncover dark history...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..and get a flavour of the footloose</font>
<font color="#ffffff">world of early Irish archaeology.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I mean, nowadays, we'd be thinking</font>
<font color="#ffff00">serious health and safety headache!</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">My own quest is to uncover</font>
<font color="#ffffff">what they found</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and what it says about us...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..and to figure out why</font>
<font color="#ffffff">this story has been forgotten</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">for so long.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The one thing I was always sure</font>
<font color="#ffffff">about growing up</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">was my Irish identity.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I was steeped in our myths and</font>
<font color="#ffffff">legends as a child, and enthralled</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">by our unique sports and music,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">our native tongue,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and not least my Celtic heritage.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So when I stumbled upon this story,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I was fascinated, but also nervous.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I mean, I hope I haven't</font>
<font color="#ffffff">been deluding myself all these years</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">about who we actually are.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">My own delusions aside,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">there's one thing</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you need to understand</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">about this story.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In the 1930s, our mysterious</font>
<font color="#ffffff">megaliths</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">were even more mystical than today.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">North and south,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">many of these monuments</font>
<font color="#ffffff">were simply called Celtic -</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">because no-one really</font>
<font color="#ffffff">knew who built them.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But with the new border,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">these ancient sites</font>
<font color="#ffffff">became, well, political.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In the south, the idea of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a Celtic origin</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">was central to Irish identity.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But in Northern Ireland,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">some were questioning</font>
<font color="#ffffff">these Celtic roots.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">This is tricky history,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">so I'm hoping</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Professor Diarmaid Ferriter</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">can explain how Northern Ireland</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was forging its own path.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">This is an illustration</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of their own path.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">A very iconic image.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Edward Carson outside</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the Stormont parliament.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">They were an announcement</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that Northern Ireland had arrived.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">The statue of Carson</font>
<font color="#ffff00">is actually unveiled in 1933,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">when he's still alive,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and he is the godfather</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of modern Ulster Unionism.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And the unveiling of the statue,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of course, was a reminder</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">that this is where it started.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">FILM:</font><font color="#00ffff"> ..through their ancestors'</font>
<font color="#00ffff">loyalty to William of Orange,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">King of England.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And it is about loyalty</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to Empire, loyalty to Crown.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">Now, as in olden days,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">Orangemen turn out</font>
<font color="#00ffff">in full regalia...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">South of the border,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">there was a very different message,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">from a newly elected leader -</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Eamon de Valera.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">The conquering hero arrives.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Mr Eamon de Valera.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Full disclosure - Eamon de Valera</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was a revered figure in my house.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">My father was a member of his party,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Fianna Fail.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">They even met, along with</font>
<font color="#ffffff">my mother, aunt and granny.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">As you can see, it was a big deal.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So I need a more objective view.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">The present government of the</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Irish Free State has been elected...</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">It really heralds the dawn</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of a new political age in Ireland.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">De Valera, his new Fianna Fail</font>
<font color="#ffff00">party have taken power in 1932.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">This programme aims at restoring</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">the unity of this island</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and creating</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">an independent Ireland</font>
<font color="#00ffff">living its own cultural,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">economic and national life.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">What we're seeing here</font>
<font color="#ffff00">is also about De Valera</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">setting out his stall.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">"I am going to make Ireland</font>
<font color="#ffff00">self-sufficient."</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">It's about political</font>
<font color="#ffff00">self-sufficiency,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">economic self-sufficiency,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">cultural self-sufficiency.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">"We are embarking on a mission</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to make this a truly Irish Ireland."</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And, in a sense, like,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">create an origin myth as well,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">harking back to</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a glorious Celtic past.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">There's a deep, deep reverence</font>
<font color="#ffff00">for the past, for Irish antiquity,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">for stressing we are unique,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">what we have brought to the world.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And there really are two state</font>
<font color="#ffff00">building projects going on</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">on the one small island,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and they're drawing on particular</font>
<font color="#ffff00">traditions to reinforce that state.</font>

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<font color="#00ff00">..trace their ancestry</font>
<font color="#00ff00">to this little island</font>

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<font color="#00ff00">with its long and tragic history.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">So one of the interesting</font>
<font color="#ffff00">questions was whether</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">the newly created border,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the physical border,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">from 1920 and 1921</font>
<font color="#ffff00">actually reflected</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">much deeper, more layered</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and deep-rooted differences.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And that was where the research</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the 1930s was going</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">to throw very interesting</font>
<font color="#ffff00">findings and conclusions.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The archaeological world</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was fascinated by Ireland,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">drawn to the promise</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of discovering the origins</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">of an ancient Celtic race.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In 1932, an American archaeologist</font>
<font color="#ffffff">- from Harvard, no less -</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">brought his team to the country,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">intent on digging up Celtic sites.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">They called it the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Harvard Mission to Ireland,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and their command HQ</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was here in Dublin.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Dr Mairead Carew is one of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the few people who knows</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">this forgotten story inside out.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It seems to me that the whole</font>
<font color="#ffffff">archaeology field at that time</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">in Europe was a bit of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a macho pursuit.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I mean, it reminds me of Raiders Of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">The Lost Ark or something.</font><font color="#ffff00"> Yeah.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">You know, these guys scrambling</font>
<font color="#ffffff">all over Europe, trying to find</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">something that would</font>
<font color="#ffffff">explain our origins.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">At the time, Ireland was perceived</font>
<font color="#ffff00">as having that pure Celtic heritage.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">There was loads of archaeological</font>
<font color="#ffff00">sites, so there was great potential.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Right.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">VOICEOVER: Sounds like the perfect</font>
<font color="#ffffff">place to excavate.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">What were they trying</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to prove about our origins?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">They wanted to find out</font>
<font color="#ffff00">really who the Celts were,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">where they had come from,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and who their descendants were</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">in the modern population.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Ah, the Celts - my tribe,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">my ancient ancestors.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">RECORD SCRATCH</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">They believed that a lot</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the beautiful objects</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">that they had were</font>
<font color="#ffff00">made by the Celts.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">That there was an ancient</font>
<font color="#ffffff">civilisation pre-Norman Invasion</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that we were descended from,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and this suited the Irish Free State</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at the time,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to strike a distance between</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Ireland and Britain.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">They were looking for connections</font>
<font color="#ffff00">almost anywhere except Britain.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">They didn't want to be connected</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to Britain on any level.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Don't worry, this isn't another</font>
<font color="#ffffff">story about England and Ireland.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's about Ireland</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and the world in the 1930s.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And in the south,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that story had a central character -</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">an Austrian archaeologist</font>
<font color="#ffffff">named Adolf Mahr,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">who came to work here</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at the museum in 1927.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">He was an expert</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in Celtic archaeology.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">A few years later, then he was</font>
<font color="#ffff00">promoted to the position</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">of Director of the National Museum.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">He also pretty much hand-picked</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the sites for the Harvard Mission.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Now, I've been looking</font>
<font color="#ffffff">into this Adolf Mahr.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">As an archaeologist,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">he'd worked on some of the most</font>
<font color="#ffffff">important Celtic digs in Europe.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In 1927 - the same year Bewley's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">opened here on Grafton Street -</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">the 40-year-old Mahr saw an advert</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in an Austrian newspaper</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">for the job here in Dublin.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Now, the awkward thing</font>
<font color="#ffffff">about Adolf Mahr</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">is that he'd become a Nazi -</font>
<font color="#ffffff">card carrying and bona fide.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In fact, he was the most prominent</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Nazi in all of Ireland.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But in 1927, he was just an</font>
<font color="#ffffff">archaeologist with a single passion,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">an obsession, really,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for all things Celtic.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Adolf Mahr's Celtic-facing history</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">suited the Irish Free State</font>
<font color="#ffffff">just fine.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But across the border in</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Northern Ireland, a different view</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">of history was emerging.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I grew up in County Monaghan,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">along the border,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">so that makes me an Ulsterman.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Oh, yes.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And even though you mightn't</font>
<font color="#ffffff">recognise the border</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">as a geographical factor,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">politically it definitely</font>
<font color="#ffffff">shapes you to some extent.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">When people hear you're from</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Monaghan, from Ulster,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">they assign you certain</font>
<font color="#ffffff">characteristics.</font>

195
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<font color="#ffffff">They think of you as maybe dour</font>
<font color="#ffffff">or deadpan or reserved.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Watchful is the word I prefer.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So it's fairly clear...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..where you grew up</font>
<font color="#ffffff">shapes your identity,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">whether you like it or not.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So technically I'm an Ulsterman,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and now I'm headed to Belfast.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In the wake of partition,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Northern Ireland began</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to bolster its cultural</font>
<font color="#ffffff">institutions.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In 1929, the Ulster Museum</font>
<font color="#ffffff">opened,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and the state also brought in</font>
<font color="#ffffff">some outside expertise.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">While Adolf Mahr was quickly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">becoming the most important</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">archaeologist in</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the Irish Free State,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">another blow-in was settling</font>
<font color="#ffffff">into a new life here in Belfast,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and he was to become the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">most important archaeologist</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">north of the border,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and a rival to Herr Mahr.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So let's hear it for</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Welshman Emyr Estyn Evans,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">a famous professor</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at Queen's University, Belfast.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">All through Ireland,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">you have the remains of</font>
<font color="#00ffff">circular enclosures</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">called raths or fairy forts.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And round the corner</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from the Ulster Museum is his home.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Alun.</font><font color="#ffff00"> Ardal.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Hello.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Luckily, his son Alun</font>
<font color="#ffffff">still lives here.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I've come to have a good</font>
<font color="#ffffff">nose through the old family archive.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And here...</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">For your interest.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Thank you.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Photographs from digs in the 1930s.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Ah, lovely.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Fast forward holiday snaps.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Rather fetching old-fashioned</font>
<font color="#ffff00">swimming costumes.</font>

225
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<font color="#ffff00">According to my mother,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">he was very good looking,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and I'm sure she was right.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Digging at Lyles Hill,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">which my father was excavating,</font>

229
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<font color="#ffff00">1937, '38.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And this is Derry.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Mm-hm.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And here we're here at Ach na Skia,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">so obviously they were camping.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">My mother as a young woman,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">my father as a young man.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">A Geographical Association</font>
<font color="#ffff00">visit, 1933.</font>

236
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<font color="#ffff00">And here we have Goward.</font>

237
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<font color="#ffff00">This is in May 1932.</font>

238
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<font color="#ffffff">Was that the first time</font>
<font color="#ffffff">he'd dug - in 1930?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">That's the first dig. Yes.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Yeah.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">That took them six days.</font>

241
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<font color="#ffff00">So it was a bit of a smash and grab,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">by the sound of it.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Yeah, yeah.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">But...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So, Alun, how did your father</font>
<font color="#ffffff">end up in Belfast?</font>

244
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<font color="#ffff00">He'd finished his basic degree</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in Aberystwyth,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">which was in anthropology</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and geography,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and a job came up.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">He was interviewed</font>
<font color="#ffff00">on his 23rd birthday</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">to set up a geography</font>
<font color="#ffff00">department at Queen's,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and was given the post.</font>

250
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<font color="#ffff00">He became interested</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in archaeology</font>

251
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<font color="#ffff00">and basically started archaeology</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">or revived archaeology</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in the north of Ireland.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It must have been quite</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an exciting time, I imagine,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">in Belfast - a relatively new state.</font>

255
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<font color="#ffffff">I guess people like your father</font>
<font color="#ffffff">got a free run of things, really.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Yeah, I think that is true.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">It started off very much</font>
<font color="#ffff00">on an amateur basis.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">The first dig at Goward,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">his main helper was my mother,</font>

259
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<font color="#ffff00">they'd been married a year,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and some more dedicated amateurs.</font>

261
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<font color="#ffff00">That was the start of it.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans wanted to trace</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Ulster's early settlers by studying</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">the ancient megalithic court tombs</font>
<font color="#ffffff">dotted around the landscape.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And he had this particular interest</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in these court graves</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">or court tombs.</font><font color="#ffff00"> Mm-hm.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">What was his fascination there?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">It was really an</font>
<font color="#ffff00">intellectual challenge to decide</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">what was their source.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Did they come across</font>
<font color="#ffff00">from the east, across Scotland,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">from northern Europe?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">They were seen</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to have a predominantly</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">northern distribution, and they were</font>
<font color="#ffff00">interested in studying and finding</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">out all they could about them.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And they...</font><font color="#ffffff"> It probably took</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an outsider to do that.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Yeah, I think it did.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I believe it took an outsider</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to really be interested</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">in the megalithic structures.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">He seemed to discover</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that the north-east of Ireland</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">had a special character that was</font>
<font color="#ffffff">there long, long before partition.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">A character all of its own.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Yeah. I mean, he did like</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the north of this island.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But it must have been incredibly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">exciting, like, you know,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">stumbling upon a ruin</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that was neglected.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Or wasn't even considered</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to be a ruin.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">It was just a pile of stones</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in a field.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Probably nobody even knew</font>
<font color="#ffffff">it was there.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And he comes across these sites</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and he starts digging</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">with his friends and his wife,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and he finds evidence</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of prehistoric civilisation.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">The thing that drove him was just</font>
<font color="#ffff00">an insatiable intellectual curiosity</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">to try and understand the past.</font>

292
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<font color="#ffffff">I think I need to see these piles</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of stone for myself.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So I'm headed to County Down,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to the little town land of Goward.</font>

295
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<font color="#ffffff">This was the location</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of Evans' very first dig.</font>

296
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<font color="#ffffff">It would put Northern Ireland</font>
<font color="#ffffff">firmly on the archaeological map.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But for me, the Goward court tomb,</font>

298
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<font color="#ffffff">well, it's proving a bit</font>
<font color="#ffffff">difficult to find.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So we take a left...</font><font color="#ffff00"> Right here.</font>

300
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<font color="#ffffff">Where do we go?</font><font color="#ffff00"> Left. Sorry.</font>

301
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<font color="#ffffff">Somewhere else?</font>

302
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<font color="#ffff00">Wrong way. Sorry.</font><font color="#ffffff"> What?</font>

303
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<font color="#ffffff">This way.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Somewhere around here in 1932,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans broke ground</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on his first big dig,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">here in the foothills</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the Mourne Mountains.</font>

307
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<font color="#ffffff">I honestly don't think anyone</font>
<font color="#ffffff">has been here since.</font>

308
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<font color="#ffffff">This is literally</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the end of the world.</font>

309
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<font color="#ffffff">Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me</font>
<font color="#ffffff">if we actually find</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">some ancient Celts up here.</font>

311
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<font color="#ffffff">Now, Estyn Evans' digs may look</font>
<font color="#ffffff">small and amateurish.</font>

312
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<font color="#ffffff">Here at Goward, he had what</font>
<font color="#ffffff">he described as meagre funding</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">from the Belfast Natural History</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and Philosophical Society.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Big spenders.</font>

315
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<font color="#ffffff">But he made do, and did</font>
<font color="#ffffff">valuable work with what he had.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So Alun gave me this photograph -</font>

317
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<font color="#ffffff">it's his father and mother standing,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I think, exactly here.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">These stones once formed what's now</font>
<font color="#ffffff">called a court tomb.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's where Neolithic people</font>
<font color="#ffffff">interred their dead</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">around 5,000 years ago.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Like myself, Estyn Evans</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was fascinated by them.</font>

323
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<font color="#ffffff">This is a copy of the dig report.</font>

324
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<font color="#ffffff">It's just a few pages</font>
<font color="#ffffff">describing the excavation.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Evans, he called this tomb</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">a horned cairn because the rocks</font>
<font color="#ffffff">are laid out like devil's horns.</font>

327
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<font color="#ffffff">The report also lists</font>
<font color="#ffffff">what Evans found -</font>

328
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<font color="#ffffff">some pottery,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">several quartzite pebbles,</font>

329
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<font color="#ffffff">a good deal of charcoal,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an unworked burnt flint.</font>

330
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<font color="#ffffff">Hmm.</font>

331
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<font color="#ffffff">Pebbles and burnt flint.</font>

332
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<font color="#ffffff">Not exactly Tutankhamun's tomb.</font>

333
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<font color="#ffffff">But interesting nonetheless.</font>

334
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<font color="#ffffff">It may sound underwhelming,</font>

335
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<font color="#ffffff">but Estyn's dig here at Goward</font>

336
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<font color="#ffffff">was the first scientific excavation</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on a court tomb ever.</font>

337
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<font color="#ffffff">It was important because it actually</font>
<font color="#ffffff">tried to map out the site</font>

338
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<font color="#ffffff">and compare it to others.</font>

339
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<font color="#ffffff">But for Estyn, it also marked</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the beginning of a grand theory -</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that these Ulster megaliths</font>
<font color="#ffffff">were built by people</font>

341
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<font color="#ffffff">with roots in Britain.</font>

342
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<font color="#ffffff">Most likely Scotland.</font>

343
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<font color="#ffffff">A few weeks after</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans left Goward,</font>

344
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<font color="#ffffff">the Harvard Mission</font>
<font color="#ffffff">arrived in Ireland,</font>

345
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,960
<font color="#ffffff">led by the esteemed</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hugh O'Neill Hencken -</font>

346
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,880
<font color="#ffffff">an American professor</font>
<font color="#ffffff">with both Irish and German roots.</font>

347
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,480
<font color="#ffffff">His first dig</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was in Ballinderry Bog,</font>

348
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,600
<font color="#ffffff">in County Westmeath.</font>

349
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,840
<font color="#ffffff">The excavation was</font>
<font color="#ffffff">anything but meagre.</font>

350
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,640
<font color="#ffffff">This is the dig report</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for Ballinderry.</font>

351
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,480
<font color="#ffffff">It's long - 80 pages long.</font>

352
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,800
<font color="#ffffff">Don't worry, I'm not going</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to read the whole thing.</font>

353
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,640
<font color="#ffffff">But at the start,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">there's a special credit.</font>

354
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,520
<font color="#ffffff">"The expedition excavates</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in Ireland in cooperation</font>

355
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,720
<font color="#ffffff">"with and under the auspices</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the National Museum of Ireland,</font>

356
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,640
<font color="#ffffff">"which has very kindly granted</font>
<font color="#ffffff">every facility in assistance,</font>

357
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,240
<font color="#ffffff">"both in excavation</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and museum study,</font>

358
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,840
<font color="#ffffff">"through the kindness</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the director, Dr Adolf Mahr.</font>

359
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,080
<font color="#ffffff">"Dr Mahr is also</font>
<font color="#ffffff">called upon officially</font>

360
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,040
<font color="#ffffff">"to inspect the excavations."</font>

361
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,800
<font color="#ffffff">Sounds like Dr Mahr is</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a bit of a control freak.</font>

362
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,240
<font color="#ffffff">The dig at Ballinderry was on</font>
<font color="#ffffff">what's called a crannog -</font>

363
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,120
<font color="#ffffff">man-made islands</font>
<font color="#ffffff">thought at the time to be Celtic.</font>

364
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,800
<font color="#ffff00">It was, for one thing,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">an ancient Irish custom</font>

365
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,080
<font color="#ffff00">to live on lake islands</font>

366
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,680
<font color="#ffff00">or crannogs or lake dwellings.</font>

367
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,400
<font color="#ffffff">Crannogs were well known here,</font>

368
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,320
<font color="#ffffff">but I wonder what the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Harvard Mission made of them.</font>

369
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,600
<font color="#ffffff">The Americans had never come</font>
<font color="#ffffff">across a crannog before, I presume.</font>

370
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,400
<font color="#ffff00">Hugh O'Neill Hencken,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">what he actually said was,</font>

371
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,080
<font color="#ffff00">"I learned how to dig a crannog</font>
<font color="#ffff00">by digging a crannog."</font>

372
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,920
<font color="#ffffff">It was the first scientifically</font>
<font color="#ffffff">excavated crannog,</font>

373
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,880
<font color="#ffffff">and it worked.</font>

374
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,360
<font color="#ffffff">They found 650 artefacts -</font>

375
00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:27,560
<font color="#ffffff">from swords to pins</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to ornate hanging bowls.</font>

376
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,080
<font color="#ffffff">But the star find</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was a strange one -</font>

377
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,360
<font color="#ffffff">an ancient gaming board.</font>

378
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:35,000
<font color="#ffff00">What Hencken said,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and others said at the time,</font>

379
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,040
<font color="#ffff00">was it was some sort of</font>
<font color="#ffff00">little war game.</font>

380
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,960
<font color="#ffffff">A bit like checkers, or battleships.</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Something like that.</font>

381
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,440
<font color="#ffff00">Because as far as Hencken</font>
<font color="#ffff00">was concerned,</font>

382
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,360
<font color="#ffff00">the Celts were into their games.</font>

383
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:48,840
<font color="#ffffff">This gaming board lit up</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the international press.</font>

384
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,520
<font color="#ffffff">One Chicago newspaper reported</font>
<font color="#ffffff">it as, "A carved backgammon board,</font>

385
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,400
<font color="#ffffff">"which was used 1,000 years</font>
<font color="#ffffff">before Saint Patrick came along."</font>

386
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,400
<font color="#ffffff">Then, noted dryly,</font>

387
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,680
<font color="#ffffff">"A couple of smashed skulls</font>
<font color="#ffffff">were unearthed alongside.</font>

388
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,120
<font color="#ffffff">"This would seem to point</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at some ancient debate over rules."</font>

389
00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:11,160
<font color="#ffffff">This was just ten years</font>
<font color="#ffffff">after Tutankhamun's tomb</font>

390
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,240
<font color="#ffffff">had been opened in Egypt, kicking</font>
<font color="#ffffff">off a global craze for archaeology.</font>

391
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,240
<font color="#ffffff">Ballinderry put Ireland on that map.</font>

392
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,880
<font color="#ffffff">RECORD SCRATCH</font>

393
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,880
<font color="#ffffff">But it almost didn't happen</font>

394
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,000
<font color="#ffffff">because the dig was</font>
<font color="#ffffff">actually rejected</font>

395
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,320
<font color="#ffffff">by the Ancient Monuments</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Council of Ireland.</font>

396
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,400
<font color="#ffffff">Adolf wrote to a friend</font>
<font color="#ffffff">about this dig.</font>

397
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,920
<font color="#ffffff">I'm not going to do the accent.</font>

398
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,560
<font color="#ffffff">"As I knew the Americans would not</font>

399
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,120
<font color="#ffffff">"abuse my confidence</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and were very capable diggers,</font>

400
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:40,040
<font color="#ffffff">"I got so annoyed about</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the stupidity of my council,</font>

401
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,480
<font color="#ffffff">"that I simply broke the law</font>

402
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,520
<font color="#ffffff">"of which I am supposed</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to be the main watchdog.</font>

403
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,440
<font color="#ffffff">"I gave them the best crannog</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to excavate of which I knew."</font>

404
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,280
<font color="#ffffff">Well, as they say, it's better</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to ask for forgiveness</font>

405
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,440
<font color="#ffffff">than permission.</font>

406
00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,000
<font color="#ffffff">Like Estyn Evans, Adolf Mahr</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was working on a grand theory.</font>

407
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,800
<font color="#ffffff">But instead of Scotland,</font>

408
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,560
<font color="#ffffff">he was convinced Ireland's ancestors</font>
<font color="#ffffff">stemmed from the Celtic tribes</font>

409
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,800
<font color="#ffffff">of Europe, and that crannogs</font>
<font color="#ffffff">represented Celtic architecture.</font>

410
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,720
<font color="#ffffff">His contention was that</font>
<font color="#ffffff">there was some pan-European culture.</font>

411
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,920
<font color="#ffff00">Exactly. Like he believed that,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">yeah,</font>

412
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,520
<font color="#ffff00">that there was sort of</font>
<font color="#ffff00">a pan-Celtic culture across Europe.</font>

413
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,360
<font color="#ffffff">And that Ireland was the last</font>
<font color="#ffffff">vestiges of this.</font><font color="#ffff00"> Exactly.</font>

414
00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:29,240
<font color="#ffff00">And that you were more likely</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to get evidence for your pure Celtic</font>

415
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,840
<font color="#ffff00">race here in Ireland.</font>

416
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,080
<font color="#ffffff">Mahr loved the idea</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of a grand Celtic race,</font>

417
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,480
<font color="#ffffff">and thought the world</font>
<font color="#ffffff">would love it too -</font>

418
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,680
<font color="#ffffff">especially Irish Americans,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">who were gaining</font>

419
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,160
<font color="#ffffff">more and more clout in the US.</font>

420
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,960
<font color="#ffffff">In 1932, the Yanks</font>
<font color="#ffffff">were busy preparing</font>

421
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,160
<font color="#ffffff">for the Chicago World's Fair -</font>

422
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,560
<font color="#ffffff">an event not lost on Adolf Mahr.</font>

423
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,840
<font color="#ffff00">Usually the headlines were</font>
<font color="#ffff00">"ancient Celtic glory",</font>

424
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,400
<font color="#ffff00">which Adolf Mahr was behind,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">because he did the press release.</font>

425
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,000
<font color="#ffff00">It came to the Chicago World Fair.</font>

426
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,760
<font color="#ffff00">There was an exhibition called</font>

427
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,000
<font color="#ffff00">A Century of Progress</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in Irish Archaeology,</font>

428
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080
<font color="#ffff00">and these three objects,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">they were put in them...</font>

429
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,200
<font color="#ffffff">As evidence of a great</font>
<font color="#ffffff">pre-Anglo Norman civilisation.</font>

430
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,080
<font color="#ffff00">Well, what they called it</font>
<font color="#ffff00">was evidence of the genius</font>

431
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,080
<font color="#ffff00">of the Celtic race.</font>

432
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,040
<font color="#ffffff">This Chicago World Fair was</font>

433
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,240
<font color="#ffffff">obviously a pretty important event,</font>

434
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,680
<font color="#ffffff">and it kind of put Ireland</font>

435
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,000
<font color="#ffffff">on the map a little bit.</font>

436
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,520
<font color="#ffff00">The whole idea was to show Americans</font>

437
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,360
<font color="#ffff00">who were related</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to the Celts by blood</font>

438
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:37,360
<font color="#ffff00">what the genius of the Celtic race</font>
<font color="#ffff00">was.</font><font color="#ffffff"> And it kind of worked.</font>

439
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:40,680
<font color="#ffffff">It gave Irish-Americans particularly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a lot of pride in their roots.</font>

440
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,440
<font color="#ffff00">Absolutely. Yeah, it did.</font>

441
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,720
<font color="#ffffff">Another depiction of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">ancient Ireland also landed</font>

442
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,320
<font color="#ffffff">at the Chicago World's Fair in 1933.</font>

443
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,600
<font color="#ffffff">Images taken by an Irish-American</font>
<font color="#ffffff">who'd come back to the old country.</font>

444
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,520
<font color="#ffffff">Robert Flaherty's documentary,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Man of Aran,</font>

445
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,040
<font color="#ffffff">would kind of take</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the world by storm.</font>

446
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,840
<font color="#ffffff">I remember seeing this first</font>
<font color="#ffffff">as a sneering student</font>

447
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,800
<font color="#ffffff">in the 1980s, but even then,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I found it quite stirring.</font>

448
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,760
<font color="#ffff00">Robert Flaherty came from Michigan,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">but had an Irish father.</font>

449
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,440
<font color="#ffff00">He was a very well established</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and successful film maker.</font>

450
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,280
<font color="#ffff00">He had first visited</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the Aran Islands in 1931.</font>

451
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,960
<font color="#ffff00">He spent nearly two years</font>
<font color="#ffff00">on Inishmore -</font>

452
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960
<font color="#ffff00">the largest of the Aran Islands.</font>

453
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,880
<font color="#ffff00">He's drawn to this idea</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of an ancient civilisation</font>

454
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320
<font color="#ffff00">on the fringes of Europe.</font>

455
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,760
<font color="#ffff00">You couldn't find a more</font>
<font color="#ffff00">isolated and remote community.</font>

456
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,640
<font color="#ffff00">The timing of this was interesting.</font>

457
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,640
<font color="#ffff00">It satisfied that need for</font>
<font color="#ffff00">recognition of the Irish struggle</font>

458
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,200
<font color="#ffff00">of the Irish traditional</font>
<font color="#ffff00">way of life,</font>

459
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,640
<font color="#ffff00">of the heroic self-reliance</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and self determination -</font>

460
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,280
<font color="#ffff00">that we would triumph, that</font>
<font color="#ffff00">we would succeed against the odds.</font>

461
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,680
<font color="#ffffff">But under the surface,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">not everything in Man Of Aran</font>

462
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,240
<font color="#ffffff">was as it appeared.</font>

463
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,400
<font color="#ffff00">What he is depicting is a way</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of life that has actually ceased.</font>

464
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,360
<font color="#ffff00">For example, the most famous scene</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in Man Of Aran, the shark hunt,</font>

465
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:12,680
<font color="#ffff00">the attempt to try and get</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the shark with the harpoon.</font>

466
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,120
<font color="#00ffff">Keep your head up.</font>

467
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:17,120
<font color="#ffff00">They had long stopped</font>
<font color="#ffff00">hunting in that way.</font>

468
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,960
<font color="#00ffff">Too high.</font><font color="#00ff00"> Take it out.</font>

469
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,000
<font color="#ffff00">The actors who performed that role,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">they had to be trained</font>

470
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,680
<font color="#ffff00">in how this used to be done.</font>

471
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,160
<font color="#ffff00">They're hunting the shark</font>
<font color="#ffff00">for oil for lamps,</font>

472
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,880
<font color="#ffff00">but electricity had</font>
<font color="#ffff00">already come to Inishmore.</font>

473
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,280
<font color="#ffff00">So Flaherty is conveniently</font>
<font color="#ffff00">leaving out the modern world.</font>

474
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,080
<font color="#ffffff">He's just idealising and</font>
<font color="#ffffff">romanticising this primitive</font>
<font color="#ffffff">way of life.</font>

475
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800
<font color="#ffff00">There is an idealisation</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the primitive way of life.</font>

476
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,080
<font color="#ffffff">The climax of Man Of Aran is</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a big storm through which the</font>

477
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,920
<font color="#ffffff">Aran Islanders are rowing</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to get home.</font>

478
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,880
<font color="#ffffff">As you do.</font>

479
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,280
<font color="#ffffff">But amidst the tempest,</font>

480
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,560
<font color="#ffffff">a prominent</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Austrian lay just off camera.</font>

481
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,320
<font color="#ffff00">Adolf Mahr with Gustav, his son,</font>

482
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,880
<font color="#ffff00">was watching it from</font>
<font color="#ffff00">a small steamship,</font>

483
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,120
<font color="#ffff00">which must have been difficult,</font>

484
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:13,080
<font color="#ffff00">when you realise</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the scale of the tempest.</font>

485
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,160
<font color="#ffff00">Flaherty would have consulted</font>
<font color="#ffff00">with Adolf Mahr.</font>

486
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,880
<font color="#ffff00">Flaherty had to get a very strong</font>
<font color="#ffff00">sense of the history that lay</font>

487
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000
<font color="#ffff00">behind what he was taking on.</font>

488
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,800
<font color="#ffffff">Did Irish people flock</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to see it themselves?</font>

489
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,680
<font color="#ffff00">When you look at the Irish premiere,</font>

490
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,360
<font color="#ffff00">Eamon de Valera is there</font>
<font color="#ffff00">as head of government.</font>

491
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:38,760
<font color="#ffff00">WB Yeats, Ireland's greatest</font>
<font color="#ffff00">living poet, Nobel laureate.</font>

492
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,200
<font color="#ffff00">This is a big deal.</font>

493
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,520
<font color="#ffff00">It's showcasing</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Irish self-sufficiency.</font>

494
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,600
<font color="#ffffff">Adolf Mahr was also</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at the Dublin premiere.</font>

495
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,720
<font color="#ffffff">What he saw was the perfect</font>
<font color="#ffffff">portrayal of his notion</font>

496
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,600
<font color="#ffffff">of the ancient Irish Celt.</font>

497
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,280
<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans, researching</font>
<font color="#ffffff">up in Belfast,</font>

498
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,280
<font color="#ffffff">was always more precise</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and factual in his conclusions.</font>

499
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,200
<font color="#ffff00">The purpose of this mound</font>
<font color="#ffff00">has never been explained,</font>

500
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,480
<font color="#ffff00">and its excavation offers</font>
<font color="#ffff00">exciting possibilities.</font>

501
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,320
<font color="#ffffff">I also learned the upstanding</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Queen's professor was not one</font>

502
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,360
<font color="#ffffff">for romanticising the past.</font>

503
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,600
<font color="#ffffff">In one of Estyn Evans' books,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I came across a telling line.</font>

504
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,560
<font color="#ffffff">"I am no supporter of those who,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">indulging in sentimental regrets</font>

505
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,720
<font color="#ffffff">"for a Celtic twilight</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of doubtful authenticity,</font>

506
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,280
<font color="#ffffff">"find in the past a golden age</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to which they would have us return."</font>

507
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,320
<font color="#ffffff">Ooh!</font>

508
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,720
<font color="#ffffff">I think it's fair to say that</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Evans would not have been impressed</font>

509
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,120
<font color="#ffffff">by Mahr's fixed notion</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the ancient Irish Celt.</font>

510
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,960
<font color="#ffffff">Adolf Mahr was the undisputed</font>
<font color="#ffffff">champion of archaeology</font>

511
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,720
<font color="#ffffff">in the Irish Free State.</font>

512
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,320
<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans was the champion</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of archaeology in Northern Ireland.</font>

513
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,640
<font color="#ffffff">But their views on Irish pre-history</font>
<font color="#ffffff">couldn't be more different.</font>

514
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,880
<font color="#ffffff">So it may seem strange that in 1934,</font>

515
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,280
<font color="#ffffff">Mahr asked Evans to excavate a</font>
<font color="#ffffff">court tomb for him in County Louth.</font>

516
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,680
<font color="#ffffff">But Mahr knew Evans was the best man</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for the job,</font>

517
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,320
<font color="#ffffff">and court tombs were his speciality.</font>

518
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,480
<font color="#ffffff">The location at Aghnaskeagh,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">as described by Evans,</font>

519
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,760
<font color="#ffffff">is classic rural Ireland.</font>

520
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,400
<font color="#ffffff">Cairn A lies on the land</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the late Owen Matthews,</font>

521
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,920
<font color="#ffffff">now occupied by Mrs Gray.</font>

522
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,040
<font color="#ffffff">But access to it was obtained</font>
<font color="#ffffff">through the property of Mrs Keenan.</font>

523
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,320
<font color="#ffffff">Today, the two sites are tucked</font>
<font color="#ffffff">behind an old mushroom farm,</font>

524
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,560
<font color="#ffffff">which is where American-born</font>
<font color="#ffffff">archaeologist Matthew Stout</font>

525
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,520
<font color="#ffffff">is attempting to locate them for me.</font>

526
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,560
<font color="#ffff00">One, two, three, and maybe</font>
<font color="#ffff00">a fourth one over there.</font>

527
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,840
<font color="#ffff00">You had a cairn, and you had access</font>
<font color="#ffff00">into the cairn</font>

528
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240
<font color="#ffff00">through these galleries.</font>

529
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,480
<font color="#ffff00">These galleries</font>
<font color="#ffff00">would have been covered and open,</font>

530
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,520
<font color="#ffff00">so you could have accessed them</font>
<font color="#ffff00">generation after generation</font>

531
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,720
<font color="#ffff00">for the burials. That's why the</font>
<font color="#ffff00">emphasis was on tomb -</font>

532
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,480
<font color="#ffff00">court tomb, passage tomb.</font>

533
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,680
<font color="#ffffff">For Evans, excavating another court</font>
<font color="#ffffff">tomb gave him more data as he worked</font>

534
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,360
<font color="#ffffff">out his theories on where</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the megalith builders came from.</font>

535
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,680
<font color="#ffffff">Well, the dig at Aghnaskeagh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was different.</font>

536
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,320
<font color="#ffffff">Here, he had resources -</font>

537
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,120
<font color="#ffffff">men commandeered under a new</font>
<font color="#ffffff">unemployment scheme</font>

538
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,280
<font color="#ffffff">created by Eamon de Valera.</font>

539
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,000
<font color="#ffff00">One of the things that Estyn Evans</font>
<font color="#ffff00">liked about this site</font>

540
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,200
<font color="#ffff00">was that it was circular,</font>

541
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,520
<font color="#ffff00">and there are circular-type</font>
<font color="#ffff00">gallery graves in Scotland.</font>

542
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,040
<font color="#ffffff">For Evans, this was evidence</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that the Neolithic people who built</font>

543
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,440
<font color="#ffffff">this megalith were from Scotland.</font>

544
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,560
<font color="#ffff00">Behind me, you can see the mountain,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">which marks the border</font>

545
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,160
<font color="#ffff00">with Northern Ireland.</font>

546
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,920
<font color="#ffff00">Over that mountain,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in that direction,</font>

547
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,000
<font color="#ffff00">you have Carlingford Lough.</font>

548
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,360
<font color="#ffff00">He believed that this was the entry</font>
<font color="#ffff00">point for the Neolithic settlers</font>

549
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,480
<font color="#ffff00">that came from Scotland</font>
<font color="#ffff00">up into the northeast of Ireland.</font>

550
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,560
<font color="#ffffff">In contrast, he thought</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that Neolithic settlers in the south</font>

551
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,160
<font color="#ffffff">came up the River Boyne.</font>

552
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,680
<font color="#ffff00">His idea was that the boundary</font>
<font color="#ffff00">stretched back to prehistoric times.</font>

553
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,360
<font color="#ffff00">That was mirrored in the fact</font>

554
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,680
<font color="#ffff00">that you had one type of prehistoric</font>
<font color="#ffff00">culture in the north,</font>

555
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,680
<font color="#ffff00">which was people who built</font>
<font color="#ffff00">court tombs,</font>

556
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,680
<font color="#ffff00">and the other type</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of prehistoric culture in the south</font>

557
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,320
<font color="#ffff00">were the people</font>
<font color="#ffff00">who built passage tombs.</font>

558
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,560
<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans saw court tombs</font>
<font color="#ffffff">as distributed coast-to-coast</font>

559
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,800
<font color="#ffffff">across the whole northern half</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the island.</font>

560
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,960
<font color="#ffffff">But in Matthew Stout's opinion,</font>

561
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,600
<font color="#ffffff">how others used his theories</font>

562
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,480
<font color="#ffffff">was beyond Evans' control.</font>

563
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,160
<font color="#ffff00">Now, Evans was a man of fierce</font>
<font color="#ffff00">integrity, and there's no question</font>

564
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,800
<font color="#ffff00">that he would have altered</font>
<font color="#ffff00">his opinions to suit the needs</font>

565
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,480
<font color="#ffff00">of the six-county government.</font>

566
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,320
<font color="#ffff00">But it just so happened that the</font>
<font color="#ffff00">theories that he genuinely held</font>

567
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,280
<font color="#ffff00">suited the idea that the six</font>
<font color="#ffff00">counties of Ireland were always</font>

568
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,080
<font color="#ffff00">separate from the rest of Ireland.</font>

569
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,320
<font color="#ffffff">However, Evans was also concerned</font>
<font color="#ffffff">about the direction archaeology</font>

570
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,200
<font color="#ffffff">was taking in the Irish Free State.</font>

571
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,720
<font color="#ffff00">He was very conscious of the work</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that was being done</font>

572
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,680
<font color="#ffff00">in the Free State to focus all the</font>
<font color="#ffff00">attention on the Celtic period.</font>

573
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,160
<font color="#ffff00">He rejected the arguments</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of racial purity.</font>

574
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,760
<font color="#ffff00">He wasn't going to get involved</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in the whole idea of the Celts</font>

575
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,560
<font color="#ffff00">or the master races or anything</font>
<font color="#ffff00">like that.</font>

576
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,480
<font color="#ffff00">But that meant he never got</font>
<font color="#ffff00">involved in the theories</font>

577
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,640
<font color="#ffff00">that maybe Adolf Mahr might have</font>
<font color="#ffff00">been interested in pursuing</font>

578
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,480
<font color="#ffff00">when he brought</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the Harvard team over.</font>

579
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,600
<font color="#ffffff">Racial purity?</font>

580
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,440
<font color="#ffffff">Hmm.</font>

581
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,400
<font color="#ffffff">Just what was Adolf Mahr</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and the Harvard Mission</font>

582
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,760
<font color="#ffffff">getting up to on this island?</font>

583
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,680
<font color="#ffffff">It doesn't sound much</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like archaeology.</font>

584
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,320
<font color="#ffffff">Here in Trinity College Dublin's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">old anatomy building,</font>

585
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,560
<font color="#ffffff">I have a feeling</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I'm about to find out.</font>

586
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,920
<font color="#00ffff">Hello. How are you, Ardal?</font>

587
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960
<font color="#00ffff">Nice to see you.</font>

588
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,400
<font color="#ffffff">What is going on here?</font>

589
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,080
<font color="#00ffff">Well, these are some instruments -</font>
<font color="#00ffff">craniometers, or callipers -</font>

590
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,960
<font color="#00ffff">and we have a small collection</font>
<font color="#00ffff">from 1891 when the anthropometric</font>

591
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,600
<font color="#00ffff">laboratory was set up.</font>

592
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,400
<font color="#ffffff">The Dublin Anthropometric Laboratory</font>

593
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,520
<font color="#ffffff">opened in the last decade</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the 19th century</font>

594
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,960
<font color="#ffffff">to scientifically study</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the Irish race,</font>

595
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,840
<font color="#ffffff">whatever that means.</font>

596
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,800
<font color="#ffffff">Like, what is anthropometry?</font>

597
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,320
<font color="#00ffff">It is basically skull measuring</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and body measuring.</font>

598
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,320
<font color="#00ffff">Colour of your eye,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">your hair colour,</font>

599
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,640
<font color="#00ffff">cranial length, cranial breadth,</font>

600
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,960
<font color="#00ffff">cranial height,</font>

601
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,360
<font color="#00ffff">face length, face breadth,</font>

602
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,680
<font color="#00ffff">height, standing weight.</font>

603
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,840
<font color="#ffffff">But to what end?</font>

604
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,280
<font color="#00ffff">To what end...</font>

605
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,880
<font color="#00ffff">..is to find out</font>
<font color="#00ffff">the variations in people.</font>

606
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,320
<font color="#ffffff">By the 1930s, when the Harvard</font>
<font color="#ffffff">mission arrived,</font>

607
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,600
<font color="#ffffff">anthropometry was no longer</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an emerging theory.</font>

608
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,680
<font color="#ffffff">It was seen as established science.</font>

609
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,800
<font color="#ffffff">And so, fast forward a few decades,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and then the Harvard Mission came</font>

610
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360
<font color="#ffffff">over and they were ostensibly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">archaeologists.</font>

611
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,880
<font color="#ffffff">But what were they up to?</font>

612
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,280
<font color="#ffffff">Did they kind of introduce a</font>
<font color="#ffffff">bit of this anthropometry as well?</font>

613
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,680
<font color="#00ff00">Yeah. So there was three strands</font>
<font color="#00ff00">to the Harvard Mission,</font>

614
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,760
<font color="#00ff00">and this was the physical</font>
<font color="#00ff00">anthropology strand.</font>

615
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360
<font color="#00ff00">And at the top of that strand</font>
<font color="#00ff00">is Earnest Hooton,</font>

616
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,080
<font color="#00ff00">who's a Harvard anthropologist.</font>
<font color="#00ff00">He sets up a research team.</font>

617
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,920
<font color="#00ff00">There's two people in it -</font>

618
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160
<font color="#00ff00">Helen Dawson and</font>
<font color="#00ff00">Clarence Wesley Dupertuis.</font>

619
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,560
<font color="#00ff00">They come over in 1934 and 1936,</font>

620
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,080
<font color="#00ff00">and what they arrive to do</font>
<font color="#00ff00">is sample,</font>

621
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,000
<font color="#00ff00">as best they could, the entire</font>
<font color="#00ff00">population of Ireland.</font>

622
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,240
<font color="#ffffff">The Harvard Mission's Anthropometric</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Survey took place in every county</font>

623
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,320
<font color="#ffffff">in the Irish Free State</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and Northern Ireland.</font>

624
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,480
<font color="#ffffff">It meant quite a lot of travelling.</font>

625
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,600
<font color="#00ff00">Clarence Dupertuis covered 45,000</font>
<font color="#00ff00">miles by car, and Helen Dawson,</font>

626
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,480
<font color="#00ff00">she travels the countryside by bike</font>
<font color="#00ff00">and she surveys 1,800 females.</font>

627
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,159
<font color="#00ff00">Altogether surveyed almost</font>
<font color="#00ff00">12,000 people.</font>

628
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:18,000
<font color="#ffffff">Not sure how I'd convince</font>
<font color="#ffffff">someone to take part</font>

629
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,920
<font color="#ffffff">in a skull-measuring survey.</font>

630
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,040
<font color="#00ff00">His method is to find what he calls</font>
<font color="#00ff00">his "rounders up and whippers in".</font>

631
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,679
<font color="#00ff00">So he relies on a kind of informal</font>
<font color="#00ff00">network of Garda Siochana,</font>

632
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:29,360
<font color="#00ff00">of parish priests.</font>

633
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,800
<font color="#00ff00">They'll be expected to go</font>
<font color="#00ff00">round up local men.</font>

634
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,400
<font color="#00ff00">I think they probably turn up</font>
<font color="#00ff00">because it sounds like it's a bit</font>

635
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,639
<font color="#00ff00">of craic or it's a novelty.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Weren't paid?</font>

636
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,920
<font color="#00ff00">No, they're not paid.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Not even a pint?</font><font color="#00ff00"> No!</font>

637
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,560
<font color="#ffffff">WHEELS CREAK</font>

638
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,840
<font color="#ffffff">BELL RINGS</font>

639
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,480
<font color="#00ff00">Helen Dawson realises that a rumour</font>
<font color="#00ff00">has gone around</font>

640
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,920
<font color="#00ff00">that she's a Hollywood agent</font>
<font color="#00ff00">scouting for new talent,</font>

641
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,960
<font color="#00ff00">and all of a sudden, loads of young</font>
<font color="#00ff00">Irish girls appear</font>

642
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,639
<font color="#00ff00">and are quite happy to have their</font>
<font color="#00ff00">head measured.</font>

643
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,880
<font color="#ffffff">OK, Siobhan, I can't put</font>
<font color="#ffffff">it off any longer.</font>

644
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,640
<font color="#ffffff">I need to know who I am.</font>

645
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,360
<font color="#00ffff">I know there's some instructions</font>
<font color="#00ffff">on the back of this sheet.</font>

646
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,320
<font color="#ffffff">Oh, she's only reading</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the instructions now!</font>

647
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,680
<font color="#ffffff">The Harvard Mission undertook</font>
<font color="#ffffff">their surveys in many</font>

648
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,520
<font color="#ffffff">towns and villages.</font>

649
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,760
<font color="#ffffff">They even took photographs</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the local specimens,</font>

650
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,600
<font color="#ffffff">which looked strangely criminal.</font>

651
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,760
<font color="#ffffff">Not sure how I feel about all this.</font>

652
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680
<font color="#00ffff">We have to do a little calculation,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">155,</font>

653
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,080
<font color="#00ffff">multiply by 100</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and then divided by 200.</font>

654
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,440
<font color="#00ffff">We come up with a cephalic index</font>
<font color="#00ffff">of 77.5.</font>

655
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,680
<font color="#00ffff">So you are a middle classification,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">which is probably great</font>

656
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,880
<font color="#00ffff">just to think that you're normal.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Yeah.</font>

657
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,240
<font color="#ffffff">So I'm average, right in the middle.</font>

658
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,360
<font color="#ffffff">Maybe because I grew up</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on the border.</font>

659
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,520
<font color="#ffffff">But what about the conclusions</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the Harvard Mission -</font>

660
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,920
<font color="#ffffff">that all this data says</font>
<font color="#ffffff">something about us</font>

661
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,960
<font color="#ffffff">as a so-called "Celtic race"?</font>

662
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,360
<font color="#ffffff">And did they find anything?</font><font color="#00ff00"> They</font>
<font color="#00ff00">recorded everybody's measurements.</font>

663
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,480
<font color="#00ff00">So what we have is, you know, boxes</font>
<font color="#00ff00">and boxes of forms, just like this.</font>

664
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,080
<font color="#00ff00">You know, 12,000 of them.</font>
<font color="#00ff00">What use are they to us?</font>

665
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,800
<font color="#00ff00">If we want to know what the physical</font>
<font color="#00ff00">measurements of people</font>

666
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,680
<font color="#00ff00">were in the 1930s, they're great.</font>

667
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,560
<font color="#00ff00">If we want to know what makes them</font>
<font color="#00ff00">distinctively racially Irish,</font>

668
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,880
<font color="#00ff00">they're not worth anything.</font>

669
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,720
<font color="#ffffff">Like, were the intentions</font>
<font color="#ffffff">noble at the time?</font>

670
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:20,000
<font color="#ffffff">I mean, it sounds suspiciously</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like what we now know as eugenics.</font>

671
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,280
<font color="#00ff00">Eugenics is... Really the idea</font>
<font color="#00ff00">behind it is that there's a sort</font>

672
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,880
<font color="#00ff00">of a hierarchy of races.</font>

673
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,840
<font color="#00ff00">So at the top were Aryan</font>
<font color="#00ff00">populations, Nordic populations,</font>

674
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,560
<font color="#00ff00">white populations...</font><font color="#ffffff"> Tied up</font>
<font color="#ffffff">with notions of nationalism...</font>

675
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,640
<font color="#00ff00">Absolutely, yeah.</font><font color="#ffffff"> ..race.</font>

676
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,440
<font color="#00ff00">So it justified a sort of racialist</font>
<font color="#00ff00">thinking that sort of advocated</font>

677
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,200
<font color="#00ff00">that there were superior</font>
<font color="#00ff00">humans and inferior humans.</font>

678
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,960
<font color="#00ff00">I mean, it's creepy stuff.</font>

679
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,000
<font color="#ffffff">It's very dubious, isn't it?</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Sinister.</font>

680
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,200
<font color="#ffffff">And ultimately, I suppose Nazi</font>
<font color="#ffffff">genocide is the ultimate outcome.</font>

681
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,320
<font color="#00ff00">It's the end of the spectrum.</font>

682
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,000
<font color="#ffffff">Let me just remind you -</font>

683
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,400
<font color="#ffffff">the Harvard Mission's visit...</font>

684
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,560
<font color="#ffffff">DRAMATIC MUSIC</font>

685
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,040
<font color="#ffffff">..took place in the 1930s.</font>

686
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,040
<font color="#ffffff">MUSSOLINI SPEAKS IN ITALIAN</font>

687
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,000
<font color="#ffffff">PATRIOTIC MUSIC PLAYS</font>

688
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,800
<font color="#ffffff">Benito Mussolini's brand of fascism</font>
<font color="#ffffff">had already been rooted in Italy</font>

689
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,000
<font color="#ffffff">for over a decade.</font>

690
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,800
<font color="#ffffff">And in 1934,</font>

691
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,360
<font color="#ffffff">the often angry and alarmingly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">popular Adolf Hitler,</font>

692
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,040
<font color="#ffffff">swept along</font>
<font color="#ffffff">by his now infamous rallies,</font>

693
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000
<font color="#ffffff">was named Fuhrer in Germany.</font>

694
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,200
<font color="#ffffff">Extreme nationalist governments</font>
<font color="#ffffff">were on the rise.</font>

695
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,040
<font color="#ffffff">So what was happening here?</font>

696
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,000
<font color="#ffffff">1934 was a good year for Ireland,</font>

697
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,160
<font color="#ffffff">well, at least for Adolf Mahr.</font>

698
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,000
<font color="#ffffff">The Harvard Mission was furiously</font>
<font color="#ffffff">digging up sites</font>

699
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,560
<font color="#ffffff">right across the island.</font>

700
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,920
<font color="#ffffff">Man of Aran won the Mussolini Cup</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for Best Foreign Film</font>

701
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,840
<font color="#ffffff">at the Venice Film Festival.</font>

702
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,800
<font color="#ffffff">And, oh, a Nazi Party</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was founded in Ireland</font>

703
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,120
<font color="#ffffff">with Adolf Mahr as its first</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Ortsgruppenleiter,</font>

704
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,120
<font color="#ffffff">or branch leader.</font>

705
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,200
<font color="#ffffff">Ireland's Nazi Party, like others</font>
<font color="#ffffff">around the world,</font>

706
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,320
<font color="#ffffff">was made up of Austrian</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and German expats,</font>

707
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,360
<font color="#ffffff">many of whom held powerful</font>
<font color="#ffffff">positions like Adolf Mahr.</font>

708
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,400
<font color="#ffffff">They'd meet together at the German</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Social Club or at a German-owned</font>

709
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,560
<font color="#ffffff">hotel in County Wicklow.</font>

710
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,520
<font color="#ffffff">Nothing to be alarmed about.</font>

711
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,360
<font color="#ffffff">Here's how the Irish press covered</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an Irish Nazi youth camp.</font>

712
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,080
<font color="#ffffff">"Hitler Youth.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">County Dublin holiday camp ends.</font>

713
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,200
<font color="#ffffff">"A party of Hitler Youth</font>
<font color="#ffffff">who had been in camp for a fortnight</font>

714
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,080
<font color="#ffffff">"at Hampton Hall between Skerries</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and Balbriggan, County Dublin,</font>

715
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,520
<font color="#ffffff">"dispersed yesterday when the German</font>
<font color="#ffffff">legation officials</font>

716
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,680
<font color="#ffffff">"paid them a farewell visit.</font>

717
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,400
<font color="#ffffff">"The party numbered about 25 boys</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and girls, most of them children</font>

718
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,720
<font color="#ffffff">"of Germans living in Dublin, some</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from England and a few from Germany.</font>

719
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,800
<font color="#ffffff">"A portrait of Hitler</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hung inside the house,</font>

720
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,000
<font color="#ffffff">"while over the porch, crossed flags</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of Germany and the Hitler Youth</font>

721
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,160
<font color="#ffffff">"were entwined with palms."</font>

722
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,800
<font color="#ffffff">"As part of the programme, Adolf</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Mahr himself, he had taken the youth</font>

723
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,200
<font color="#ffffff">"on a cultural tour of Ireland</font>
<font color="#ffffff">visiting historic sites such as</font>

724
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,440
<font color="#ffffff">"Newgrange, where they looked</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at the passage tomb."</font>

725
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200
<font color="#ffffff">Yeah. Sounds like your typical</font>
<font color="#ffffff">week at summer camp!</font>

726
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,080
<font color="#ffffff">So, as far as the media</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was concerned,</font>

727
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,160
<font color="#ffffff">the Hitler Youth</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was all a bit of fun.</font>

728
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,800
<font color="#ffffff">While Mahr was busy building</font>
<font color="#ffffff">his Irish Nazi Party,</font>

729
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,160
<font color="#ffffff">the Director of the Harvard</font>
<font color="#ffffff">mission, Hugh O'Neill Hencken,</font>

730
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,760
<font color="#ffffff">and his Indiana Jones-styled</font>
<font color="#ffffff">assistant, Hallam Movius,</font>

731
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,280
<font color="#ffffff">began a new search. An attempt</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to bring them face-to-face</font>

732
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960
<font color="#ffffff">with the earliest inhabitants</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on the island,</font>

733
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,280
<font color="#ffffff">men and women who they believed</font>
<font color="#ffffff">lived around 10,000 years ago</font>

734
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,080
<font color="#ffffff">in the Palaeolithic era.</font>

735
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,560
<font color="#ffffff">Kilgreany Cave in County Waterford</font>

736
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,480
<font color="#ffffff">had been excavated in 1928,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">making headlines across the country</font>

737
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,040
<font color="#ffffff">because, well, they found</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Palaeolithic human bones.</font>

738
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,640
<font color="#ffffff">Or at least they thought they did.</font>

739
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,080
<font color="#ffffff">The Harvard Mission went</font>
<font color="#ffffff">back to make sure.</font>

740
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,680
<font color="#ffff00">So Hallam L Movius, who is the</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Palaeolithic archaeologist,</font>

741
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:12,000
<font color="#ffff00">went there in 1934 to see if he</font>
<font color="#ffff00">could recover more material.</font>

742
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,960
<font color="#ffffff">The rugged Hallam Movius</font>

743
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,720
<font color="#ffffff">and the Harvard Mission arrived with</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an army of excavators</font>

744
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:20,960
<font color="#ffffff">from de Valera's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">unemployment scheme.</font>

745
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,400
<font color="#ffffff">Very quickly, he started suspecting</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the 1928 archaeologists</font>

746
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,640
<font color="#ffffff">weren't up to the task.</font>

747
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,200
<font color="#ffff00">Now, he wasn't very happy</font>
<font color="#ffff00">with the previous excavator,</font>

748
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,000
<font color="#ffff00">EK Tratman, because he was a dentist</font>

749
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,760
<font color="#ffff00">and he was one of these, you know...</font>

750
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,400
<font color="#ffffff">He was just looking for teeth!</font>

751
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,880
<font color="#ffff00">He... No!</font>

752
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,720
<font color="#ffff00">Like, he was with</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Bristol University,</font>

753
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:45,120
<font color="#ffff00">but he wasn't a trained</font>
<font color="#ffff00">archaeologist.</font><font color="#ffffff"> More of a dabbler.</font>

754
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,880
<font color="#ffff00">Yeah. And you would have had a lot</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of people like that in the '20s</font>

755
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,240
<font color="#ffff00">and '30s where they'd have</font>
<font color="#ffff00">an interest in archaeology,</font>

756
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,960
<font color="#ffff00">but they wouldn't have the training</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to back it up.</font>

757
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,920
<font color="#ffff00">Movius was very unhappy,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">so he did a much more scientific</font>

758
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,000
<font color="#ffff00">excavation and found that</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the Palaeolithic man turned out</font>

759
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,040
<font color="#ffff00">to be a Neolithic man.</font>

760
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,800
<font color="#ffffff">That is, the bones were around</font>
<font color="#ffffff">5,000 years younger than thought.</font>

761
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,040
<font color="#ffffff">Once again, the results made</font>
<font color="#ffffff">headline news,</font>

762
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,880
<font color="#ffffff">but not in a good way.</font>

763
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,920
<font color="#ffff00">So they didn't find the earliest</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Irishman in the Kilgreany...</font>

764
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,960
<font color="#ffffff">Damn it!</font>

765
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,840
<font color="#ffffff">Hallam L Movius</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and the Harvard Mission</font>

766
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,840
<font color="#ffffff">now had to reframe their search.</font>

767
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,240
<font color="#ffffff">It meant that the oldest evidence</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for people on the island</font>

768
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,240
<font color="#ffffff">was in Northern Ireland.</font>

769
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,400
<font color="#ffffff">Objects formed by humans</font>
<font color="#ffffff">were found in their thousands.</font>

770
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,680
<font color="#ffffff">Flints, tiny flints - just like</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the ones I passed in there</font>

771
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,640
<font color="#ffffff">without giving them a second glance.</font>

772
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,320
<font color="#ffffff">So the Harvard Mission headed north</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to Cushendun in County Antrim.</font>

773
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,360
<font color="#ffffff">Because while flint sounds</font>
<font color="#ffffff">boring to me,</font>

774
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,400
<font color="#ffffff">for those studying the Stone Age,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">they're pure gold.</font>

775
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,160
<font color="#ffffff">Where you find flints, you find</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the people who used them as tools.</font>

776
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,520
<font color="#ffffff">So the handsome Hallam Movius began</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a series of digs</font>

777
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,120
<font color="#ffffff">where flints</font>
<font color="#ffffff">are practically lying around.</font>

778
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,440
<font color="#ffff00">There were quite a lot of</font>

779
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,080
<font color="#ffff00">middle-Stone Age flint tools</font>
<font color="#ffff00">found in this bay</font>

780
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,480
<font color="#ffff00">and the surrounding area.</font>

781
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,800
<font color="#ffff00">And, of course, all along</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the East Antrim coast.</font>

782
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
<font color="#ffff00">There might be just a chance I might</font>
<font color="#ffff00">pick one up as we walk along here,</font>

783
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,600
<font color="#ffff00">but so far I haven't seen anything.</font>

784
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,320
<font color="#ffffff">Cormac McSparron is an archaeologist</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from Queen's University, Belfast.</font>

785
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,240
<font color="#ffffff">He's excavated at Cushendun before,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">so he knows what to look for.</font>

786
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,760
<font color="#ffffff">Upriver from the beach</font>

787
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,120
<font color="#ffffff">is where Hallam Movius dug -</font>

788
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,960
<font color="#ffffff">a long grown-over site Cormac is</font>
<font color="#ffffff">attempting to find</font>

789
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,960
<font color="#ffffff">using the dig report.</font>

790
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,080
<font color="#ffff00">It's reasonably clear.</font>

791
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,960
<font color="#ffff00">We've got the Dun River</font>
<font color="#ffff00">on this side of us.</font>

792
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,400
<font color="#ffff00">Movius's site is located at about</font>
<font color="#ffff00">100 feet or 30 metres,</font>

793
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,560
<font color="#ffff00">roughly, from the point down there.</font>

794
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,240
<font color="#ffff00">What Movius had stumbled upon by</font>
<font color="#ffff00">accident, really,</font>

795
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:03,040
<font color="#ffff00">was something which was really quite</font>
<font color="#ffff00">well stratified.</font>

796
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,640
<font color="#ffff00">The uppermost strata is going</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to be the most recent, and the</font>

797
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,240
<font color="#ffff00">lowermost one is going to be</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the most ancient.</font>

798
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,800
<font color="#ffff00">And Movius was able to dig</font>
<font color="#ffff00">into this bank</font>

799
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,320
<font color="#ffff00">and get the stratification</font>
<font color="#ffff00">going down.</font>

800
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,920
<font color="#ffff00">Several thousand years,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">actually, of stratification.</font>

801
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,280
<font color="#ffff00">Through silts and sands</font>

802
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,680
<font color="#ffff00">and another layer of salt,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and then finally</font>

803
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,280
<font color="#ffff00">a layer of postglacial peat,</font>

804
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,360
<font color="#ffff00">five or six metres</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of open excavation.</font>

805
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,320
<font color="#ffff00">Huge amount of work done manually,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of course, but nowadays</font>

806
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,280
<font color="#ffff00">we'd be thinking serious</font>
<font color="#ffff00">health and safety headache!</font>

807
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,040
<font color="#ffffff">Ah, health and safety gone mad!</font>

808
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680
<font color="#ffffff">Looks to me like a bit of craic!</font>

809
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,280
<font color="#ffffff">But what Movius found in the strata</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at Cushendun</font>

810
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,160
<font color="#ffffff">was like striking gold.</font>

811
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,800
<font color="#ffff00">Most of what he found</font>
<font color="#ffff00">was flint tools -</font>

812
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,280
<font color="#ffff00">large, broad-bladed, flint points.</font>

813
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,000
<font color="#ffff00">You can sort of see they've been</font>
<font color="#ffff00">trimmed here to fit onto a shaft.</font>

814
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,440
<font color="#ffff00">They're very sharp even after,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">you know, 6,000, 7,000 years spent</font>

815
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,080
<font color="#ffff00">on the ground before it was found.</font>

816
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,360
<font color="#ffff00">This is still really, really sharp,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">still a very effective tool</font>

817
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,960
<font color="#ffff00">or weapon, or most likely, probably</font>
<font color="#ffff00">for hunting, to be honest with you.</font>

818
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,960
<font color="#ffff00">And fishing - you could spear</font>
<font color="#ffff00">things of all sorts with this.</font>

819
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,240
<font color="#ffffff">Having discovered his cache of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">flints, Movius began to work out</font>

820
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,600
<font color="#ffffff">where the people that use</font>
<font color="#ffffff">them came from.</font>

821
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,480
<font color="#ffffff">His money was on Scotland.</font>

822
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,760
<font color="#ffff00">He called it the "Larnian Culture".</font>

823
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,640
<font color="#ffff00">And this Larnian Culture had</font>
<font color="#ffff00">similarities, he thought,</font>

824
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,800
<font color="#ffff00">to some Mesolithic material</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in the west of Scotland.</font>

825
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,800
<font color="#ffff00">And he thought that it was likely</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that they were related in some way.</font>

826
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,960
<font color="#ffffff">So the Larnian Culture, named</font>
<font color="#ffffff">after the good town of Larne,</font>

827
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,400
<font color="#ffffff">were the first settlers in Ireland,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and they came from Scotland,</font>

828
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,600
<font color="#ffffff">according to</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Harvard's Hallam Movius.</font>

829
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:54,840
<font color="#ffffff">Down in Dublin, Adolf Mahr</font>
<font color="#ffffff">didn't agree.</font>

830
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,160
<font color="#ffff00">Adolf Mahr had a sort of</font>
<font color="#ffff00">competing theory.</font>

831
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,000
<font color="#ffff00">He believed that it was possible</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to link early Irish pre-history</font>

832
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,240
<font color="#ffff00">with wider European archaeology.</font>

833
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:08,840
<font color="#ffff00">His model stood in stark contrast</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to the model of Hallam Movius.</font>

834
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,800
<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans' theories, though</font>
<font color="#ffffff">working in a different era,</font>

835
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,560
<font color="#ffffff">supported Hallam Movius.</font>

836
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,800
<font color="#ffff00">He very much also tended to tie</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Ireland, generally, into a sort of</font>

837
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,000
<font color="#ffff00">a more Irish and British milieu,</font>

838
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,840
<font color="#ffff00">rather than a continental milieu.</font>

839
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,720
<font color="#ffffff">Hmm... Britain or Europe.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Who to believe?</font>

840
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:30,120
<font color="#ffffff">Who to trust?</font>

841
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,960
<font color="#ffffff">What do you think, Cormac?</font>

842
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,880
<font color="#ffff00">The nation, the origin</font>
<font color="#ffff00">is a tenuous concept, at best.</font>

843
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,240
<font color="#ffff00">It's extremely difficult to tie</font>
<font color="#ffff00">down, but it doesn't mean</font>

844
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:43,520
<font color="#ffff00">that sometimes archaeologists</font>
<font color="#ffff00">have not got drawn into that.</font>

845
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,920
<font color="#ffffff">By 1935,</font>

846
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,960
<font color="#ffffff">time was running out</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for the Harvard Mission.</font>

847
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,320
<font color="#ffffff">Their five-year plan was nearly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">over, but not before they'd</font>

848
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,320
<font color="#ffffff">excavated nearly 20 sites</font>

849
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,160
<font color="#ffffff">from County Cork to County Antrim</font>

850
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,800
<font color="#ffffff">and everywhere in between.</font>

851
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,360
<font color="#ffffff">So the Harvard Mission had done</font>
<font color="#ffffff">its job,</font>

852
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,920
<font color="#ffffff">filling the museum in Dublin</font>
<font color="#ffffff">full of artefacts</font>

853
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,280
<font color="#ffffff">and impressing the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">archaeological world</font>

854
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040
<font color="#ffffff">with new theories</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and incredible discoveries.</font>

855
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,400
<font color="#ffffff">But they'd never carried out</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a dig here in County Sligo,</font>

856
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,200
<font color="#ffffff">where Hugh O'Neill Hencken</font>
<font color="#ffffff">first fallen for the mysteries</font>

857
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,080
<font color="#ffffff">of Irish archaeology.</font>

858
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,960
<font color="#ffffff">Now was his chance.</font>

859
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,600
<font color="#ffffff">Hencken chose a court tomb</font>

860
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,080
<font color="#ffffff">located on Sligo's western shore,</font>

861
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,880
<font color="#ffffff">a site named Creevykeel.</font>

862
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,960
<font color="#ffffff">The tomb was similar to the one</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans had dug in County Down.</font>

863
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,520
<font color="#ffffff">But while Goward looked like a set</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of 1930s teeth with a few missing,</font>

864
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,720
<font color="#ffffff">Creevykeel was an American-style</font>
<font color="#ffffff">set of dentures -</font>

865
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,360
<font color="#ffffff">intact, perfectly preserved,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">gleaming.</font>

866
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:53,040
<font color="#ffffff">Local expert Martin Byrne</font>
<font color="#ffffff">has come to give me the grand tour.</font>

867
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,080
<font color="#ffff00">It really survived unmolested</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and un-dug, suppose,</font>

868
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,120
<font color="#ffff00">until the Harvard Mission arrived</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in 1935.</font>

869
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,280
<font color="#ffff00">So that may be one of the reasons</font>
<font color="#ffff00">why they picked it,</font>

870
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,880
<font color="#ffff00">was because it was in such good</font>
<font color="#ffff00">condition and it hadn't been</font>

871
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,680
<font color="#ffff00">dug by treasure hunters.</font>

872
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:12,200
<font color="#ffffff">In July 1935, Hencken and his men</font>
<font color="#ffffff">began digging at Creevykeel.</font>

873
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,040
<font color="#ffffff">When they started, the tallest stone</font>
<font color="#ffffff">stood barely a metre above ground.</font>

874
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,920
<font color="#ffffff">Within days, gigantic boulders</font>
<font color="#ffffff">rose from the earth.</font>

875
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,560
<font color="#ffffff">As it emerged, Hugh O'Neill Hencken</font>

876
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,560
<font color="#ffffff">tried to make sense of the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">court tomb as best he could.</font>

877
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,040
<font color="#ffff00">There's an interesting story</font>

878
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,800
<font color="#ffff00">about the capstone leading into</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the chamber. Three local brothers</font>

879
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,240
<font color="#ffff00">were bored one day, and they</font>
<font color="#ffff00">came and they pushed it over.</font>

880
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,920
<font color="#ffff00">And the locals all told Hencken</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that it used to stand upright,</font>

881
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,000
<font color="#ffff00">but he didn't believe</font>
<font color="#ffff00">it ever stood upright</font>

882
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,880
<font color="#ffff00">so he put it back lying flat.</font>

883
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,360
<font color="#ffff00">And it's actually the most dangerous</font>
<font color="#ffff00">thing on the site here,</font>

884
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,360
<font color="#ffff00">because everybody who goes into that</font>
<font color="#ffff00">chamber cracks their head off it.</font>

885
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,840
<font color="#ffffff">Will we put it back the way it was?</font>

886
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,920
<font color="#ffffff">No.</font><font color="#ffff00"> I don't think so, not today.</font>

887
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,440
<font color="#ffffff">I'm still unclear about</font>
<font color="#ffffff">who actually built these megaliths.</font>

888
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,480
<font color="#ffffff">Are we talking about the Celts?</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I mean, are these people Celts?</font>

889
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,680
<font color="#ffffff">RECORD SCRATCH</font>

890
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,880
<font color="#ffff00">When I studied archaeology,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">we were told, "There's no such</font>
<font color="#ffff00">thing as the Celts."</font>

891
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,560
<font color="#ffff00">And when you're a tour guide, you</font>
<font color="#ffff00">have to be very careful talking to</font>

892
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,200
<font color="#ffff00">people, particularly from America.</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Some people get very upset.</font>

893
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,960
<font color="#ffff00">No, these people were way, way</font>
<font color="#ffff00">before what we would have considered</font>

894
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,520
<font color="#ffff00">to be the Celts even.</font>

895
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,880
<font color="#ffff00">The Corcoran people are thought</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to have migrated through the Balkans</font>

896
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,240
<font color="#ffff00">and followed the line of the Danube,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and ended up in France.</font>

897
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:31,160
<font color="#ffff00">Then you have lots of people</font>
<font color="#ffff00">going up the east coast of England,</font>

898
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,920
<font color="#ffff00">and you have people coming up</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the Irish Sea and you have people</font>

899
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,480
<font color="#ffff00">coming up around the west coast</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of Ireland as well.</font>

900
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:43,200
<font color="#ffffff">So these are German-French court</font>
<font color="#ffffff">tombs. But what about Scotland?</font>

901
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,760
<font color="#ffff00">Evans was right. There were people</font>
<font color="#ffff00">who came over from Scotland</font>

902
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,280
<font color="#ffff00">and build those kind of monuments,</font>

903
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,080
<font color="#ffff00">and people who came</font>
<font color="#ffff00">from France as well.</font>

904
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,720
<font color="#ffff00">The people who came from Scotland</font>
<font color="#ffff00">originally came from France anyway.</font>

905
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:54,640
<font color="#ffffff">So...everyone's right.</font>

906
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,720
<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans in Northern Ireland,</font>

907
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:59,520
<font color="#ffffff">Adolf Mahr in Dublin,</font>

908
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,800
<font color="#ffffff">the Americans</font>
<font color="#ffffff">with the Harvard Mission.</font>

909
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,680
<font color="#ffffff">I visited these sites.</font>

910
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,320
<font color="#ffffff">I've read the reports.</font>

911
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,720
<font color="#ffffff">I've tried to get my head around</font>
<font color="#ffffff">exactly what these places are</font>

912
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:15,720
<font color="#ffffff">and how they relate to my identity</font>
<font color="#ffffff">as an Irishman and an Ulsterman.</font>

913
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:19,120
<font color="#ffffff">But I need more to go on.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I need a geneticist.</font>

914
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,320
<font color="#ffffff">So, essentially,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you study old bones.</font>

915
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,080
<font color="#00ffff">Yes. To summarise, yes.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Sorry!</font>

916
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,720
<font color="#ffffff">Dr Lara Cassidy</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is an expert in ancient DNA.</font>

917
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:33,680
<font color="#ffffff">If anyone can help me, she can.</font>

918
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,200
<font color="#00ffff">Would you like some gloves?</font>
<font color="#00ffff">If you want to hold a sample.</font>

919
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,920
<font color="#ffffff">I suppose I should, really,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">shouldn't I?</font><font color="#00ffff"> OK.</font>

920
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,280
<font color="#00ffff">So this is a petrous bone.</font>

921
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,400
<font color="#00ffff">So can you see how this might</font>
<font color="#00ffff">fit on your skull?</font>

922
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,840
<font color="#ffffff">I'm hoping Lara can tell me</font>
<font color="#ffffff">who I am</font>

923
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,240
<font color="#ffffff">and how I relate</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to my ancient ancestors.</font>

924
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:54,520
<font color="#ffffff">We've been studying at the Harvard</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Mission to Ireland in the 1930s,</font>

925
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,240
<font color="#ffffff">and then there was a guy up in</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Northern Ireland called Estyn Evans</font>

926
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:00,600
<font color="#ffffff">who was racing around different</font>
<font color="#ffffff">historic monuments</font>

927
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,680
<font color="#ffffff">to try and find out, you know,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">who our ancestors were.</font><font color="#00ffff"> Mm.</font>

928
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,160
<font color="#ffffff">So who do you think built them?</font>

929
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,280
<font color="#ffffff">Like, who built Creevykeel,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for example?</font>

930
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,360
<font color="#00ffff">Some very talented, uh...</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Stonemasons.</font>

931
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,640
<font color="#00ffff">Well, and a community, I think.</font>

932
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,400
<font color="#00ffff">How did they relate to us</font>
<font color="#00ffff">living on the island today?</font>

933
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,320
<font color="#ffffff">SHE CHUCKLES</font>

934
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,640
<font color="#00ffff">Distantly. The idea that the Irish</font>
<font color="#00ffff">population has existed in some type</font>

935
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:29,120
<font color="#00ffff">of crystalline state going back</font>
<font color="#00ffff">into the deep and distant past is...</font>

936
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,280
<font color="#ffffff">Really?</font><font color="#00ffff"> Yeah.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Very disappointing, Lara.</font>

937
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,000
<font color="#ffffff">So our sacred sites weren't built</font>
<font color="#ffffff">by the Irish at all,</font>

938
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,320
<font color="#ffffff">at least genetically speaking.</font>

939
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,920
<font color="#ffffff">So what about me? Am I Irish?</font>

940
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,440
<font color="#00ffff">The modern-day Irish population</font>
<font color="#00ffff">can trace its origins probably back</font>

941
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,840
<font color="#00ffff">to a foundational event that</font>
<font color="#00ffff">happened in the early Bronze Age.</font>

942
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:55,720
<font color="#ffffff">Give me a date.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">4,000 to 4,500 years ago.</font>

943
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,120
<font color="#00ffff">And it's a movement of populations</font>

944
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,400
<font color="#00ffff">from the Steppe region</font>
<font color="#00ffff">of modern-day Russia.</font>

945
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,480
<font color="#00ffff">If you're looking for an "origin"</font>
<font color="#00ffff">for the modern Irish gene pool,</font>

946
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,400
<font color="#00ffff">that's your foundation point.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Really?</font>

947
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,480
<font color="#ffffff">VOICEOVER: So I'm Russian?</font>

948
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,240
<font color="#ffffff">Like, if you were to compare</font>
<font color="#ffffff">our DNA with the DNA of someone</font>

949
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:18,160
<font color="#ffffff">from the Steppes now...</font><font color="#00ffff"> Yeah.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">..would there be similarities?</font>

950
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,000
<font color="#00ffff">No. Because you can't think</font>
<font color="#00ffff">that the Steppe region of Russia</font>

951
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,680
<font color="#00ffff">has stayed the same either.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Because many of us were brought up</font>

952
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,560
<font color="#ffffff">with this, like, very strong idea</font>

953
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,000
<font color="#ffffff">that we were descended</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from the Celts.</font>

954
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,120
<font color="#00ffff">But you have to be so careful</font>
<font color="#00ffff">in studies of archaeology,</font>

955
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,880
<font color="#00ffff">anything about the human past</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and genetics,</font>

956
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,480
<font color="#00ffff">and researchers definitely</font>
<font color="#00ffff">have the tendency</font>

957
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,840
<font color="#00ffff">to bring their own subjectivities</font>
<font color="#00ffff">into it.</font>

958
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,640
<font color="#ffffff">Well, they did in the 1930s.</font>

959
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,320
<font color="#ffffff">And it's a dangerous game,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">this whole, like, you know,</font>

960
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,480
<font color="#ffffff">where nationalism played a</font>
<font color="#ffffff">huge part.</font>

961
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,640
<font color="#ffffff">What are your findings about race,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">generally?</font>

962
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,800
<font color="#00ffff">Race is not a genetic concept.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">It's not a biological concept.</font>

963
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520
<font color="#00ffff">It is a social construct.</font>

964
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,280
<font color="#00ffff">People sometimes think that genes</font>
<font color="#00ffff">or genetics are a more fixed anchor</font>

965
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,480
<font color="#00ffff">of identity than, say,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">a culture or a language.</font>

966
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,840
<font color="#00ffff">We know culture and language</font>
<font color="#00ffff">changes all the time,</font>

967
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,120
<font color="#00ffff">but so do genetic populations.</font>

968
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,440
<font color="#00ffff">They're ephemeral,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">they're fluid, they're changing,</font>

969
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,160
<font color="#00ffff">their boundaries are fuzzy.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">And people are always moving,</font>

970
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,040
<font color="#00ffff">they're migrating,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">meeting and mixing.</font>

971
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:25,080
<font color="#00ffff">As a species, we have an incredibly</font>
<font color="#00ffff">recent shared evolutionary history.</font>

972
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,080
<font color="#00ffff">We all trace our homeland</font>
<font color="#00ffff">back to Africa.</font>

973
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:36,600
<font color="#ffffff">VOICEOVER: Hmm. Russian, French,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Scottish, Irish and African.</font>

974
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,360
<font color="#ffffff">And where do you think we come from?</font>
<font color="#00ffff">It's a different answer</font>

975
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,920
<font color="#00ffff">whatever sort of lens you put on it.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Like, where do I come from?</font>

976
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,160
<font color="#00ffff">Where did my parents come from?</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Yeah.</font><font color="#00ffff"> My great-grandparents?</font>

977
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,680
<font color="#00ffff">500 years ago?</font>

978
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,840
<font color="#00ffff">5 million years ago?</font>

979
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,200
<font color="#00ffff">I suppose you can think</font>
<font color="#00ffff">whatever you want to think.</font>

980
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,200
<font color="#00ffff">That's the wonderful thing</font>
<font color="#00ffff">about human identity, isn't it?</font>

981
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,040
<font color="#00ffff">We can we can make our own</font>

982
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,920
<font color="#00ffff">and we can make our own</font>
<font color="#00ffff">as a society as well.</font>

983
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,520
<font color="#00ffff">But the thing that unites</font>
<font color="#00ffff">them isn't their genes,</font>

984
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,720
<font color="#00ffff">isn't their culture,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">isn't even their language.</font>

985
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:11,680
<font color="#00ffff">It's calling this island home.</font>

986
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,040
<font color="#00ffff">If you're talking about looking</font>
<font color="#00ffff">for anchors of identity,</font>

987
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,400
<font color="#00ffff">that's a really nice one.</font>

988
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,560
<font color="#ffffff">The 1930s, however, didn't</font>
<font color="#ffffff">have the data from Lara's work</font>

989
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,280
<font color="#ffffff">on ancient DNA, nor did it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">have her open-mindedness.</font>

990
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,160
<font color="#ffffff">In September 1939,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">war was declared on Nazi Germany,</font>

991
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,120
<font color="#ffffff">starting a conflict that would shake</font>
<font color="#ffffff">most people's faith in humanity.</font>

992
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,880
<font color="#ffffff">Adolf Hitler's actions,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">particularly the Holocaust,</font>

993
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,240
<font color="#ffffff">shattered any notions of a</font>
<font color="#ffffff">scientifically studied pure race.</font>

994
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:54,120
<font color="#ffffff">In Ireland, the idea of a pure</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Celtic race sort of slipped away.</font>

995
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,600
<font color="#ffffff">As did Adolf Mahr.</font>

996
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:05,400
<font color="#ffffff">In July 1939, Mahr travelled to</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Germany for an academic conference</font>

997
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,120
<font color="#ffffff">and to attend a Nazi rally</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in Nuremberg.</font>

998
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,720
<font color="#ffffff">He stayed in Germany.</font>

999
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:13,840
<font color="#ffffff">At one point, he made Nazi</font>
<font color="#ffffff">propaganda radio programmes</font>

1000
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,240
<font color="#ffffff">targeting British</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and Irish audiences.</font>

1001
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:19,840
<font color="#ffffff">A job that didn't exactly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">bolster his reputation.</font>

1002
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,440
<font color="#ffffff">After the war, Adolf Mahr tried</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to get back into Ireland,</font>

1003
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,080
<font color="#ffffff">to take up his old job.</font>

1004
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,360
<font color="#ffffff">He wrote begging letters</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to everybody he knew,</font>

1005
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,680
<font color="#ffffff">including this one</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to Eamon de Valera in 1947.</font>

1006
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,640
<font color="#ffffff">"It is now well over two years</font>
<font color="#ffffff">since the cessation of hostilities,</font>

1007
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,240
<font color="#ffffff">"half the duration of the shooting</font>
<font color="#ffffff">war, and I am still here.</font>

1008
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,480
<font color="#ffffff">"I have ever since frantically tried</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to enlist the support of the Dublin</font>

1009
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,000
<font color="#ffffff">"authorities in my endeavours</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to get back to my unfinished work,</font>

1010
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,760
<font color="#ffffff">"which I consider to be</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the vocation of my life.</font>

1011
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,880
<font color="#ffffff">"So far, I have met with no success.</font>

1012
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,680
<font color="#ffffff">"I can naturally understand</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that my past political sympathies</font>

1013
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,400
<font color="#ffffff">"and the general situation</font>
<font color="#ffffff">render my case somewhat delicate.</font>

1014
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,920
<font color="#ffffff">"But I beg Your Excellency</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to consider also</font>

1015
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,920
<font color="#ffffff">"the extenuating factors.</font>

1016
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,800
<font color="#ffffff">"I do not and I cannot deny</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that I thought it my patriotic duty</font>

1017
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,880
<font color="#ffffff">"to join the Party, and that</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I honestly believe that it stood</font>

1018
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,960
<font color="#ffffff">"for the common good of all Europe.</font>

1019
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,160
<font color="#ffffff">"This was an error of judgment,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">but it was not in contradiction</font>

1020
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,800
<font color="#ffffff">"to the loyalty and love which</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I felt equally for your country,</font>

1021
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,920
<font color="#ffffff">"which had given me hospitality and</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an honoured scientific position."</font>

1022
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,960
<font color="#ffffff">But by this time, Adolf Mahr</font>
<font color="#ffffff">had become a figure to forget.</font>

1023
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,600
<font color="#ffffff">No-one would touch him,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">not least Eamon de Valera.</font>

1024
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:42,120
<font color="#ffffff">Mahr died in Germany in 1951. He was</font>
<font color="#ffffff">still hoping to get back to Ireland.</font>

1025
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,000
<font color="#ffffff">Estyn Evans spent the war</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in Northern Ireland</font>

1026
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,000
<font color="#ffffff">teaching at Queen's.</font>

1027
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,000
<font color="#ffffff">He also wrote popular books</font>
<font color="#ffffff">about Ireland's heritage</font>

1028
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,320
<font color="#ffffff">and eventually helped found</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the Ulster Folk Park.</font>

1029
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,800
<font color="#ffffff">He even did the odd spot</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of presenting for the BBC.</font>

1030
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,320
<font color="#ffff00">This structure is what</font>
<font color="#ffff00">archaeologists call a souterrain.</font>

1031
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,840
<font color="#ffffff">One thing I wondered, though -</font>

1032
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,320
<font color="#ffffff">did Estyn Evans</font>
<font color="#ffffff">ever mention Adolf Mahr?</font>

1033
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,680
<font color="#ffffff">So I asked his son, Alun.</font>

1034
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,000
<font color="#ffff00">It's well known</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that Mahr was a Nazi.</font>

1035
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,720
<font color="#ffff00">My father noticed Mahr's interest</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in airfields and coastal regions...</font>

1036
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:23,040
<font color="#ffffff">HE LAUGHS</font>

1037
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,400
<font color="#ffffff">So they had a relationship,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of sorts.</font><font color="#ffff00"> Yes.</font>

1038
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,160
<font color="#ffff00">And they respected each other</font>

1039
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,680
<font color="#ffff00">because Mahr was a trained</font>
<font color="#ffff00">archaeologist.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Mm-hm.</font>

1040
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,560
<font color="#ffff00">He was about 20 years old,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">my father.</font>

1041
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,680
<font color="#ffff00">But they were both very interested</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in developing the techniques.</font>

1042
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,520
<font color="#ffffff">But Alun also told me a story</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that suggests</font>

1043
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,480
<font color="#ffffff">things could have been</font>
<font color="#ffffff">very different had Adolf Mahr</font>

1044
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,640
<font color="#ffffff">and Adolf Hitler</font>
<font color="#ffffff">gotten their way.</font>

1045
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,000
<font color="#ffff00">My father was very surprised when</font>
<font color="#ffff00">a senior archaeologist in Dublin</font>

1046
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,840
<font color="#ffff00">told him that Mahr had commented</font>

1047
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,880
<font color="#ffff00">that Estyn would make</font>
<font color="#ffff00">an excellent Gauleiter,</font>

1048
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:03,560
<font color="#ffff00">for a mayor for the north</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of Ireland when the great day came.</font>

1049
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,360
<font color="#ffff00">But the great day didn't come.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Thankfully.</font>

1050
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,520
<font color="#ffffff">Instead, Estyn Evans had a long</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and illustrious career,</font>

1051
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,160
<font color="#ffffff">becoming a household name</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in Northern Ireland.</font>

1052
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,480
<font color="#ffffff">And he never went back to Wales.</font>

1053
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:28,720
<font color="#ffffff">It makes for a strange sort of Irish</font>
<font color="#ffffff">story without any Irish characters.</font>

1054
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,080
<font color="#ffffff">Adolf Mahr, Estyn Evans,</font>

1055
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,080
<font color="#ffffff">Hugh O'Neill Hencken, Hallam Movius.</font>

1056
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,280
<font color="#ffffff">They dug up this island,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">excavated a warehouse of treasures,</font>

1057
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,360
<font color="#ffffff">and went some way to decoding</font>
<font color="#ffffff">our mysterious megaliths.</font>

1058
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,440
<font color="#ffffff">Yet, it's a forgotten tale</font>

1059
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,640
<font color="#ffffff">because it happened in the 1930s.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">A dark chapter of history.</font>

1060
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,240
<font color="#ffffff">But we should remember</font>

1061
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,520
<font color="#ffffff">they pioneered archaeology</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on this island as we know it today.</font>

1062
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,400
<font color="#ffffff">But I have to admit,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I'm slightly disappointed</font>

1063
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,640
<font color="#ffffff">that there's no definitive evidence</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of an ancient and pure</font>

1064
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,920
<font color="#ffffff">Celtic culture from which</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I might be descended.</font>

1065
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,280
<font color="#ffffff">Of course, I'm not going</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to be swayed by mere science.</font>

1066
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,600
<font color="#ffffff">No. Like most people north</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and south, I prefer stories.</font>

1067
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,520
<font color="#ffffff">Stories rooted in the landscape</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the mind.</font>

1068
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,320
<font color="#ffffff">Because that's where these</font>
<font color="#ffffff">comforting origin myths arise,</font>

1069
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,200
<font color="#ffffff">in the sometimes absurd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and often baffling tales</font>

1070
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,040
<font color="#ffffff">that we tell ourselves about</font>
<font color="#ffffff">who we are and where we came from.</font>



