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Yeah.

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-Three, two, one.
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You've been lied to.
But here's the scary part.

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It's not going to stop.

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You see it every day
on social media.

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Your friend just became a vegan

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and they start proselytizing
about how great this diet

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is and how well
they're doing on it.

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And how if you don't
change your ways right now,

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somehow the planet is going
to end in two years.

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The reason that we created

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it is because
we wanted to address

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the greatest
environmental threat

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that humans have ever faced.

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Yeah,
a quick Google search

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will let you know
that the vegan diet

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is now everywhere.

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I just don't want to contribute

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to the exploitation
and the suffering

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and the murder of all
these innocent animals anymore.

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Listen--
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--when I was a kid,

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we goofed on this whole
idea of veganism.

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It's not a sustainable diet.

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80% of people
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stop the diet
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We're getting all these people

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talking about the vegan diet

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as if it's the best way to eat.

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I always try to, you know,

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tap into something
that's gon' better me,

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whether as an athlete,
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as a person.

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Uh, I'm vegan now. Oh!

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Okay, well, let's look at it.

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Eating French fries:
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Pasta: vegan.

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Sugar: vegan.

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So this is unhealthy
vegan food right here.

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This one you're about to have
is called the Mac Daddy.

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You're telling me vegan people
eat the same stuff as we do?

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Okay, so no one
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would ever consider the foods

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I just mentioned
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There are a lot of great foods
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Broccoli comes to mind.

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So does kale.

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If you want to actually...

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...eat kale.

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Your basic carnivore
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"A vegan diet can't possibly
be healthy, how could it?

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You can't get all the vitamins
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The big one that everyone
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is B12.
Vegans will say, "Not true.

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You can just take
a multi cap every day

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and get all
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That would be great.

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We didn't even learn
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until the early 1900s.

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So it was impossible
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say, in the 1800s or any time
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Let's just take
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the fats from another source,

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and recreate those so
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entirely out of the equation.

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So let's say
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and you're eating
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Here's a list of everything
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in supplements just to make it
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Vitamin B12, iron,
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omega three fatty acids,
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and protein.

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Now, you might be saying

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some of these fake meats do
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Well, yes, the Beyond Burger

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has less than 1%
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and claims they have protein.

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But it turns
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is not digested as effectively
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so you're not actually using
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but we'll get to that later.

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It doesn't matter
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because pop culture
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There's a responsibility,
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to try and teach and show
other people what I've learned.

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We're hearing
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My veganism
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to accord myself with the--
with my values.

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Do you support changing
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-The--
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-You know, the food pyramid--
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To reduce red meat
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Yes, I would.

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They're telling us that
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eating a vegan diet okay,

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they're telling us
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we are meant to eat.

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I'm more active,
I'm not as sluggish.

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It takes less water,
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And then
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for sentient beings.

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No one wants
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so that we can live.

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What you got there, bud? Yeah.

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One of the arguments
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"Okay, yes, we are part
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But if we could
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in order not to let
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wouldn't that be better?"

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Well, yes, it would be better.

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But is that really,
actually, the truth?

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Because you became vegan,

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because you're
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does that mean a sentient
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Well, that's something
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There's nothing
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raping and murdering a being

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that doesn't want to be killed.

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When you look at Beyond Meat
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you're being sold
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You're being told that,
"Hey, this is better for you,

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it's way better than meat."

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The choice
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isn't between
this and this, right?

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But between this and this,
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it's a no-brainer.

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We made a point
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the protein content
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actually, the protein quality
of our burger is higher

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than the protein quality
of beef from a cow.

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What is usually
being offered is protein.

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We like to talk about protein.

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We like to talk about
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and how animal protein
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and plant protein is to be--
supposed to be superior.

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But that
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This is Frederic Leroy.

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He's a professor
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and he's a food scientist
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A piece of meat
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or an egg is about much more
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It contains a whole spectrum
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but also a lot
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that you will not find in, um,
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That is problematic because,

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say, you know, vitamin B12
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that are naturally
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many people cannot
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and minerals
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My name is Nina Teicholz.

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I am a science journalist
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and I'm the executive director
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called
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You may think that you're
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but your body
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and that's true
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You know, when you look
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and companies like that,

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they use a lot
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In other words,
things in their meat

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that we really can't
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This is Dr. Tony Hampton,

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a board-certified doctor in
family medicine and obesity.

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You know, I'm really a big fan

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of teaching my patients
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So why would I, you know,
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to a diet
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uh, artificially prepared
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And you have to start
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that is not all that
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So, you need lots
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Nutrition is easy.

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It's easy to make something
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meat from animals in terms
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Intrinsically, those foods
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being ultra processed foods,

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because that's the only way

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that you can try to get near
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Biochemistry.
It's molecular biology.

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It's genomics, genetics.

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There is a growing number
of changemakers out there...

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Biophysics...

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...who are making
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-Think about the colors.
-It's material science.

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Flavors you're
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You have to think about
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it's particularly difficult.

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The tech innovators
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how we think about food.

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I mean,
I'll never stop liking steak.

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And the civil society leaders

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who are inspiring
food movements everywhere

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and holding us accountable
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What the fuck? Isn't
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Why are these companies
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to make a non-meat
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and smell exactly like meat?

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We could save our planet.

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We're supposed to eat meat.

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Our mission is to
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in the food system by 2035.

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So....

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And you laugh, but we are
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It seems as though
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behind all of this is,

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"Hey, we're going
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but it's better for you and
it's better for the planet."

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You heard that right.

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All we hear about
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and how it's bringing on
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Cows are the most
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and the most invasive
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except for possibly humans.

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There is absolutely no scenario

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for preventing catastrophic
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without a vast reduction in the
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Livestock, of course,
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has a greater impact
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You know,
that's just true in general.

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This is Frank Mitloehrner.

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a professor
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in the Department
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Ruminant livestock
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They belch that methane out.

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Uh, their manure
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and that methane
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That's part of the narrative

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and that narrative
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The other truth
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does not stay
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as long as CO2 does.

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Methane, on the other hand,
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of about ten years,
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Which means
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cattle raising, methane is
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as new methane
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Which means
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and cattle raising
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does not cause global warming.

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This isn't to say
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in other parts of the world.

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India has more
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States, the European Union,
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And they largely
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Mainly our goal
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So, here's a conundrum.

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I see a lot of vegans
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to stop eating cows.
It's immoral.

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How do I morally justify
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Are my taste buds
more important than their life?

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Well,
India isn't eating the cows,

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so I guess the only way
to stop this

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is to make cows extinct.

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Talk about a catch-22.

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We save our motherland.
We save other-- our motherland.

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They save our motherland.

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India alone
accounts for up to 80%

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of the world's emissions
associated with livestock.

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A country
that does not eat cows

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is causing the most
problem with emissions.

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Meat is actually quite simple
at a high level.

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It's amino acids, it's lipids,

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it's trace minerals
and it's water.

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None of those are exclusive
to the animal.

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What we're doing is taking
those same constituent parts--

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amino acids, lipids,
trace minerals, and water,

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and we're converting
them directly into meat.

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And in doing so,
we are eliminating

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agriculture's biggest
bottleneck.

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The animal.

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There's a guy named Thanos.

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Uh-huh.

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And he is working
on developing

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-the power to snap his finger.
- Oh, man.

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And wipe
out half the population.

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-What'd you do?
- Ah.

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-If you had his gauntlet--
- Yes.

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--would you do it for cows?

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-I love cows.
-You do?

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But I don't love having
billions of cows

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covering the entire planet.

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That's actually an interesting
moral dilemma.

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I guess I probably would,

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because those cows are not
going to end well anyway.

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Wow.

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I-I didn't think he would
actually say it out loud.

291
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Okay, I'll give
the guy a break.

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He sounded confused.

293
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Maybe he didn't understand
the question.

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It's not like
he'd say it again.

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If you could snap your fingers

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and just vaporize
that industry--

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which I would do
in a heartbeat if I could--

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Do we have another fact?

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About three quarters
of all the agricultural land

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in the world
is used for livestock.

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We use the land
for ruminant livestock.

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Ruminants are able to eat

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all the things we can't
and on marginal land,

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and thus they are using
two-thirds

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of all agricultural land,
because we can't.

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The reason why ruminant
e-- animals,

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uh, belch out methane
is because of a unique ability

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they have to eat, to digest
feeds that nobody else can.

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The remaining
third is arable land,

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where you can grow crops
for animals and for people.

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And just as a side note,

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if you eat organic food,
then that organic food

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must only be fertilized
with organic fertilizers.

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And they almost,
without exception,

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stem from some animal's butt.

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It's not a big,
beautiful, green field

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of cows having a good time.

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It is a very binary
discourse, I would say.

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So it is--
It's almost a moral discourse

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with, uh, two categories:
Good and Evil.

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Meat is-- you know,
is the bad boy,

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and the plants
are the good ones.

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So, you would end up
with, uh, slogans such as,

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uh, "Cows are worse than cars,"

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or, uh, "To produce one--
one-- one steak,

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you wou-- you would have
the equivalence of,

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I don't know
how many showers."

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The other big argument

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is about the cows'
water footprint

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and how it's so massive.

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It's by far the biggest
user of freshwater,

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by far the biggest polluter

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of freshwater
of any industry on Earth.

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This one, surprisingly,

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is laughably easy.

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94% of a cow's water footprint

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is rainwater.

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Water that would be there

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with or without
the existence of the cow.

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This means the cows' feed

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is grown almost completely
by God above.

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And what happens
to that rainwater?

343
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The cows piss it out
and irrigate the land.

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Ew!

345
00:14:48,148 --> 00:14:50,063
- Look, he's peeing!

346
00:14:50,106 --> 00:14:53,022
People just want to
do the right thing, right?

347
00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:56,504
The general consumer just
wants what's healthy.

348
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It's lower in calories,
lower in total fat,

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lower in saturated fat
and zero cholesterol.

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Let's go back to the 1980s.

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We were told
that if you didn't eat fat,

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you couldn't possibly get fat.

353
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So we had all
of these products come out.

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SnackWell's was one
of my favorites in that era.

355
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There was no fat
in the product.

356
00:15:15,131 --> 00:15:18,134
So, it was nothing
but sugar and carbohydrates.

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If you didn't eat fat,

358
00:15:19,788 --> 00:15:21,964
they were claiming
you couldn't get fat.

359
00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:23,313
Do you know that granola bar

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is loaded with fat?

361
00:15:24,706 --> 00:15:26,099
Oh! Oh, no.

362
00:15:26,142 --> 00:15:27,143
But here's Kellogg's

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low fat granola bars.

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Half the fat of the leading
crunchy granola bar.

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00:15:30,233 --> 00:15:32,670
-Mm!
- Hooray!

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Really good.

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-So, record scratch--
-

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You get to 2021
going into 2022,

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and the low fat, high sugar

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of the '80s didn't turn out
the way we wanted it to.

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What happened?
We have an obesity epidemic,

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particularly
in the United States.

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America's obesity
has not doubled,

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it's tripled
in the past 50 years.

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The CDC defines obesity

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as anyone with a body
mass index over 30.

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In the 1960s, that was only
about 14% of our population.

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But today, it's closer to 40%.

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00:16:06,922 --> 00:16:09,881
So what do we do?
I'm open to suggestions.

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A plant-based diet in
general has more antioxidants,

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00:16:13,668 --> 00:16:15,191
more beneficial nutrients.

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00:16:15,235 --> 00:16:17,759
It's usually lower
in saturated fat.

383
00:16:17,802 --> 00:16:19,979
So, there are a number
of different reasons

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why it's healthier.

385
00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:23,243
You know, I spend a lot
of time every day

386
00:16:23,286 --> 00:16:25,767
in social media,
and the question becomes,

387
00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:28,857
"Well, come on, this has
to be healthier for me.

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00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:31,164
My doctor tells me
not to eat meat.

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We have Meatless Mondays
in schools around the country.

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00:16:35,342 --> 00:16:36,734
We have people
in the government

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00:16:36,778 --> 00:16:38,606
who are telling
us that meat is bad

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00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:41,087
and we should have
a Meatout Day.

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A proclamation
declaring March 20th

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Meatout Day in Colorado.

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00:16:45,569 --> 00:16:48,833
Have you seen the lines
in reference

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00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:51,401
to people getting
boxes of food?

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00:16:51,445 --> 00:16:54,230
And we-- we wanna
have a day of no meat?

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00:16:54,274 --> 00:16:56,276
It's not the first
time the governor,

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whose partner is vegan,
has snubbed the beef industry.

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00:16:59,192 --> 00:17:01,063
Sonnenberg recalled
how he plugged

401
00:17:01,107 --> 00:17:03,065
Burger King's meatless burger,

402
00:17:03,109 --> 00:17:05,937
sending a bunch to
the Department of Agriculture.

403
00:17:05,981 --> 00:17:10,072
This contributes
to his war on rural Colorado.

404
00:17:10,116 --> 00:17:12,292
It is indeed a slap
in the face.

405
00:17:12,335 --> 00:17:13,423
And the reason
for the proclamation

406
00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:15,295
is written below.

407
00:17:15,338 --> 00:17:17,123
They want to remove
animal products from our diet

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00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:19,647
because it reduces
the risk of various ailments,

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00:17:19,690 --> 00:17:21,649
-including heart disease--
-

410
00:17:21,692 --> 00:17:22,998
-high blood pressure--
-

411
00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:24,304
-stroke--
-

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00:17:24,347 --> 00:17:25,479
-various cancers--
-

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-and diabetes.
-

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It becomes a lullaby.
It becomes normal.

415
00:17:30,092 --> 00:17:31,963
You know, we're just putting
them to sleep.

416
00:17:32,007 --> 00:17:36,272
Meat is bad. Meat is bad.
Meat is bad.

417
00:17:36,316 --> 00:17:38,970
Eating a plant-based
diet is better for our health,

418
00:17:39,014 --> 00:17:40,233
for weight, for heart disease,

419
00:17:40,276 --> 00:17:42,017
for cholesterol, for diabetes,

420
00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:43,888
for all kinds
of different reasons.

421
00:17:43,932 --> 00:17:46,456
And doctors get lulled
into this also,

422
00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:48,415
because there's correlation.

423
00:17:48,458 --> 00:17:51,374
You know, too much meat
is bad for your heart.

424
00:17:51,418 --> 00:17:54,377
Correlation
does not equal causation.

425
00:17:54,421 --> 00:17:56,205
I get it. You're a doctor.

426
00:17:56,249 --> 00:17:58,425
You don't want to get sued.
Someone has a heart attack.

427
00:17:58,468 --> 00:18:00,166
You told them to eat meat.

428
00:18:00,209 --> 00:18:02,820
Yet we don't sue them
if someone had a heart attack

429
00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:05,910
and we told
them to only eat vegetation.

430
00:18:05,954 --> 00:18:09,262
Which, by the way, you want
to talk about correlation...

431
00:18:09,305 --> 00:18:11,351
A study out of the UK
that followed people

432
00:18:11,394 --> 00:18:15,006
for 18 years found
that while people who eat meat

433
00:18:15,050 --> 00:18:17,096
had a higher risk
of heart attacks,

434
00:18:17,139 --> 00:18:19,881
vegetarians had a higher
risk of stroke.

435
00:18:19,924 --> 00:18:21,622
So a new study suggests

436
00:18:21,665 --> 00:18:23,972
that vegetarians might have
a higher risk of stroke

437
00:18:24,015 --> 00:18:25,539
compared to meat eaters.

438
00:18:25,582 --> 00:18:28,368
The research found
vegetarians and vegans

439
00:18:28,411 --> 00:18:31,980
had a 20% higher risk
of stroke than meat eaters.

440
00:18:32,023 --> 00:18:35,505
The exact reasons
for the higher risk? Not clear.

441
00:18:35,549 --> 00:18:38,029
It's possible that very
low cholesterol levels

442
00:18:38,073 --> 00:18:40,989
and lower levels of nutrients
could be the cause.

443
00:18:41,032 --> 00:18:43,383
So, I say, eat a steak.

444
00:18:43,426 --> 00:18:45,994
If you are really
trying to show causation,

445
00:18:46,037 --> 00:18:47,865
you're kind of forced
at some point

446
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:50,781
to take this motto and say,

447
00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:52,653
"I got to still
prove my point."

448
00:18:52,696 --> 00:18:54,785
So, even if I start
with an epidemiological study,

449
00:18:54,829 --> 00:18:56,439
which is more affordable,
easier to do,

450
00:18:56,483 --> 00:18:59,138
I have to then
go to the next stage.

451
00:18:59,181 --> 00:19:00,748
And until I get
to the next stage,

452
00:19:00,791 --> 00:19:03,968
it's almost irresponsible
to-- to put out

453
00:19:04,012 --> 00:19:06,667
into the-- the media
that this study proves

454
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:08,190
a certain thing
when it really doesn't,

455
00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:09,974
because the interpretation

456
00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:12,716
of the study is going
to be what you put

457
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,718
on the front li--
you know, on the headline.

458
00:19:18,722 --> 00:19:22,204
Now we're being told
that having a fake product

459
00:19:22,248 --> 00:19:25,381
is better than a natural
product, and this is coming

460
00:19:25,425 --> 00:19:28,819
from the people who used
to tell you natural is better.

461
00:19:28,863 --> 00:19:31,866
Now they're telling you
that the fake stuff is better.

462
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:33,607
All the legendary flavor.

463
00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:34,912
None of the meat.

464
00:19:36,218 --> 00:19:38,002
Mm.

465
00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:41,441
When the wagon of change comes,
you ride along with it.

466
00:19:41,484 --> 00:19:44,008
I tell people all the time,
eat foods that have

467
00:19:44,052 --> 00:19:45,445
exactly one ingredient.

468
00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:47,011
Steak is one ingredient.

469
00:19:47,055 --> 00:19:49,057
Broccoli
is one ingredient.

470
00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:50,537
Dairy, one ingredient.

471
00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:52,278
You take Beyond Meat.

472
00:19:52,321 --> 00:19:54,062
You want to guess how
many ingredients are in that?

473
00:19:54,105 --> 00:19:55,716
Well, here,
let me run through them.

474
00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:58,849
Water, pea protein,
expeller pressed canola oil,

475
00:19:58,893 --> 00:20:02,113
refined coconut oil,
rice protein, natural flavors,

476
00:20:02,157 --> 00:20:05,073
cocoa butter, mung bean
protein, methyl cellulose,

477
00:20:05,116 --> 00:20:08,598
potato starch,
passion, apple extract,

478
00:20:08,642 --> 00:20:12,428
pomegranate extract,
salt, potassium chloride, love,

479
00:20:12,472 --> 00:20:14,517
vinegar,
lemon juice concentrate,

480
00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:18,260
sunflower lecithin and beet
juice extract for color.

481
00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:22,046
My favorite part is they're
even adding fake blood.

482
00:20:22,090 --> 00:20:23,831
Well, guess what?

483
00:20:23,874 --> 00:20:26,355
The red stuff you see in
your steak, that's not blood.

484
00:20:26,399 --> 00:20:28,052
That's myoglobin.

485
00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:30,664
And they're using heme
as a substitute to fulfill

486
00:20:30,707 --> 00:20:33,841
hungry vegans' insatiable
craving for the real thing.

487
00:20:34,624 --> 00:20:36,887
"Hey, look,
we're giving you blood

488
00:20:36,931 --> 00:20:38,889
in a more compassionate way."

489
00:20:38,933 --> 00:20:42,023
Because what they show
is going to be the gastronomic

490
00:20:42,066 --> 00:20:46,332
culinary end product,
nicely put on a--in a bun

491
00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:48,856
and-- and served.

492
00:20:48,899 --> 00:20:50,858
Uh, something
that appeals to the senses.

493
00:20:54,514 --> 00:20:56,255
"Plant-based"
sounds more innocent.

494
00:20:56,298 --> 00:20:58,561
It's, uh,
aiming not at vegans,

495
00:20:58,605 --> 00:21:00,781
it's aiming at
the public at large because

496
00:21:00,824 --> 00:21:02,783
the business model
is not made for the niche

497
00:21:02,826 --> 00:21:05,481
of-- of vegans,
it's made for, um,

498
00:21:05,525 --> 00:21:07,266
what they call "flexitarians."

499
00:21:07,309 --> 00:21:09,746
The only consumer we care
about is--is an omnivore,

500
00:21:09,790 --> 00:21:11,400
a meat consumer.

501
00:21:11,444 --> 00:21:13,315
And the terminology
is extremely important.

502
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,448
They will not talk about
vegan sausage, for instance.

503
00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:17,319
They will call it
a field grown sausage

504
00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:19,103
or anything like that.

505
00:21:19,147 --> 00:21:22,498
That's why you will
never actually find vegan

506
00:21:22,542 --> 00:21:25,980
as a denomination very
explicitly on--on the label.

507
00:21:26,023 --> 00:21:31,333
What we see today,
remarkably, is that the...

508
00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:33,901
...the vegan crusaders
in particular,

509
00:21:33,944 --> 00:21:37,208
they are advocating
for those products

510
00:21:37,252 --> 00:21:40,386
that are created
by big corporations.

511
00:21:40,429 --> 00:21:44,694
So, they're--they're taking
sides with, um--with global

512
00:21:44,738 --> 00:21:47,610
elites, and, uh, investors,

513
00:21:47,654 --> 00:21:51,919
and multinational companies,
and they're proudly doing so.

514
00:21:51,962 --> 00:21:54,791
When you look at McDonald's,
or you look at Subway or Dunkin

515
00:21:54,835 --> 00:21:57,098
or KFC, these tests
that we're involved in,

516
00:21:57,141 --> 00:21:59,579
those are some of the largest
names in food, and we're

517
00:21:59,622 --> 00:22:01,581
partnering with them to bring
our products to the consumer.

518
00:22:01,624 --> 00:22:03,365
So, we're
excited about where we are.

519
00:22:03,409 --> 00:22:06,281
I think this evolution
has to do with, of course,

520
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:09,110
uh, what is allowed
within a societal discourse.

521
00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:11,242
Now, any fringe movements

522
00:22:11,286 --> 00:22:14,115
or any radical idea
will never,

523
00:22:14,158 --> 00:22:16,857
ever be able to dominate
mainstream media

524
00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:21,078
if the powers that be
don't allow it to do so.

525
00:22:21,122 --> 00:22:25,387
It can only flourish, it can
only be, if it is endorsed.

526
00:22:27,781 --> 00:22:29,043
Ha! Burger King!

527
00:22:29,086 --> 00:22:30,827
It's here, it's here,

528
00:22:30,871 --> 00:22:32,873
and it's in every Burger King
everywhere. Burger King!

529
00:22:32,916 --> 00:22:35,005
A lot of people are
thinking fake meat

530
00:22:35,049 --> 00:22:37,181
is the way to go,
that it's number one,

531
00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:39,270
healthier for you and good
for the planet.

532
00:22:39,314 --> 00:22:42,186
And in fact, the companies
that are doing this,

533
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:45,146
they're not interested
in you at all or the planet.

534
00:22:45,189 --> 00:22:47,627
They're interested
in their bottom line.

535
00:22:47,670 --> 00:22:49,846
The critical
thing to investors is,

536
00:22:49,890 --> 00:22:53,807
this is a--at the time--
one and a half trillion dollar

537
00:22:53,850 --> 00:22:56,723
global market that's
being served by a prehistoric

538
00:22:56,766 --> 00:22:58,986
technology that hasn't
improved in millennia,

539
00:22:59,029 --> 00:23:01,728
and is demonstrably one
of the least effic--efficient

540
00:23:01,771 --> 00:23:03,425
technologies on Earth.

541
00:23:03,469 --> 00:23:06,950
Um, it kind of reads to them
as, "Oh, okay, actually,

542
00:23:06,994 --> 00:23:08,648
this is worth putting
some money into."

543
00:23:08,691 --> 00:23:11,041
In 2019,
Impossible Foods raised

544
00:23:11,085 --> 00:23:15,350
another $300 million
to ramp up production

545
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,483
from the likes
of Google Ventures,

546
00:23:17,526 --> 00:23:20,529
Bill Gates and a slew
of entertainment celebrities.

547
00:23:20,573 --> 00:23:24,359
Somebody made banana
peel pulled pork and it just

548
00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,405
took the internet by a storm.

549
00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:28,755
-Holy frick!

550
00:23:28,798 --> 00:23:33,586
The texture? Tastes exactly
like pulled pork. The flavor?

551
00:23:33,629 --> 00:23:38,765
100% like a barbecue
pulled pork. I'm so confused.

552
00:23:41,811 --> 00:23:44,466
Vegans will say,
"Only eat vegetables."

553
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:46,425
Meat eaters will say,
"Only eat meat,"

554
00:23:46,468 --> 00:23:48,557
but somehow when you put
them both together,

555
00:23:48,601 --> 00:23:50,559
that's a bad idea.

556
00:23:50,603 --> 00:23:53,606
Listen, we've been talking
about this for 40 years,

557
00:23:53,649 --> 00:23:57,653
and we've done nothing
except get fatter and sicker.

558
00:23:57,697 --> 00:23:59,873
So, that ends now.

559
00:23:59,916 --> 00:24:03,050
We're going to talk
about this in a very blunt way.

560
00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:04,573
You may get upset,

561
00:24:04,617 --> 00:24:06,532
but that's not
what I'm worried about here.

562
00:24:06,575 --> 00:24:08,534
I'm worried about your health.

563
00:24:08,577 --> 00:24:11,450
So, here's
why eating meat and green

564
00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:13,234
vegetables alone is healthy.

565
00:24:13,930 --> 00:24:16,890
When you cut most carbs
and all sugars and grains,

566
00:24:16,933 --> 00:24:19,196
your body's inflammation
starts going down.

567
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,502
Also...

568
00:24:38,172 --> 00:24:40,609
Go out and get some
sun and move on top of that?

569
00:24:40,653 --> 00:24:42,393
And you're
getting your essential

570
00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:44,091
vitamins and minerals
and you're good to go.

571
00:24:44,134 --> 00:24:46,180
So, if anyone says
this movie does not have

572
00:24:46,223 --> 00:24:48,574
a direct explanation
of why meat and veggies

573
00:24:48,617 --> 00:24:52,099
are a complete healthy meal,
just give them the time stamp.

574
00:24:55,624 --> 00:24:57,974
I always like to take
snapshots from history.

575
00:24:58,018 --> 00:25:01,500
If you go back to Woodstock,
which was in 1968,

576
00:25:01,543 --> 00:25:04,677
you couldn't find a fat
person in that crowd.

577
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,549
Uh, as a matter of fact,
most of these people were

578
00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:09,856
ripped as if they had been
doing sit ups all day long,

579
00:25:09,899 --> 00:25:11,597
yet they were swilling beer.

580
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,816
We didn't have a fat
problem in this country.

581
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:18,081
Compare that to even 22 years
ago with Woodstock '99

582
00:25:18,125 --> 00:25:19,430
and well...

583
00:25:19,474 --> 00:25:21,041
That tells
me we have a problem.

584
00:25:21,084 --> 00:25:22,999
Media will say,
"Hey, we're fat,

585
00:25:23,043 --> 00:25:24,653
we're out of shape,
we're dying."

586
00:25:24,697 --> 00:25:27,700
But it doesn't
offer any solution.

587
00:25:27,743 --> 00:25:29,179
Why is that?

588
00:25:29,223 --> 00:25:30,311
Why doesn't
the media go any further?

589
00:25:30,354 --> 00:25:32,182
Well, they're moving on.

590
00:25:32,226 --> 00:25:33,880
They're
in the business of telling

591
00:25:33,923 --> 00:25:36,360
a salacious story
and then moving on.

592
00:25:36,404 --> 00:25:38,449
You know,
it's all about sound bites.

593
00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:41,148
We don't
ever do anything about it.

594
00:25:41,191 --> 00:25:44,847
For many years as a physician,
I was a vegetarian for eight

595
00:25:44,891 --> 00:25:47,763
years, and--and what I've
found is that as I've

596
00:25:47,807 --> 00:25:51,158
attempted to encourage
that dietary approach

597
00:25:51,201 --> 00:25:53,682
in that community
that I served, what I found

598
00:25:53,726 --> 00:25:57,164
is that they struggle to do
it because of various reasons.

599
00:25:57,207 --> 00:25:58,861
Some was culture.

600
00:25:58,905 --> 00:26:02,125
Some people felt like,
"If I eat that way,

601
00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:06,695
which is considered "healthy,"
that was, uh, anti my culture,

602
00:26:06,739 --> 00:26:08,915
not just anti my diet."

603
00:26:08,958 --> 00:26:11,004
So, it--it was almost like,
"You're taking away

604
00:26:11,047 --> 00:26:12,614
a part of me."

605
00:26:12,658 --> 00:26:14,181
And a lot of people
in the community,

606
00:26:14,224 --> 00:26:16,618
that's really
offensive to them.

607
00:26:16,662 --> 00:26:18,577
So, let's listen to your body.

608
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:21,449
And if you eat a certain
way and you do really well,

609
00:26:21,492 --> 00:26:23,451
why not just eat that diet?

610
00:26:23,494 --> 00:26:27,150
I mean, I have patients who are
carnivore, and if they eat,

611
00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:30,632
uh, you know, certain types
of grains because of the things

612
00:26:30,676 --> 00:26:34,157
like oxalates and vitiate
and those anti nutrients--

613
00:26:34,201 --> 00:26:37,291
lectins--When they eat these
things, they just get sick.

614
00:26:37,334 --> 00:26:40,729
So how--how would I look
as a physician to stand

615
00:26:40,773 --> 00:26:42,470
before them and say,
"You know what?

616
00:26:42,513 --> 00:26:44,559
I know you get
sick from this stuff.

617
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,909
You'll be fine after a while,
your body will get used to it.

618
00:26:46,953 --> 00:26:49,216
And just stay sick until
you get used to it."

619
00:26:49,259 --> 00:26:50,609
That doesn't make any sense.

620
00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:52,828
Now, all that being said,

621
00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:55,657
you won't be seeing any
interviews with any vegans

622
00:26:55,701 --> 00:26:56,876
in this movie.

623
00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:58,921
That's not without trying.

624
00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:02,142
We asked them, specifically
vegan experts and doctors.

625
00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:04,623
We asked maybe the first
and foremost expert

626
00:27:04,666 --> 00:27:06,886
everyone talks about,
Dean Ornish.

627
00:27:06,929 --> 00:27:08,670
Fat tends
to cause you to be fat.

628
00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:10,411
We asked Dr. John MacDougall.

629
00:27:10,454 --> 00:27:14,415
Kempner knew back
in the '50s that sugar makes

630
00:27:14,458 --> 00:27:18,071
insulin work better
and cures diabetics.

631
00:27:18,114 --> 00:27:20,682
We asked everybody's
favorite, Dr. Michael Greger.

632
00:27:20,726 --> 00:27:21,944
Nip the tip.

633
00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:24,077
Ah?

634
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,341
And then
you s-s-s-s--suck it all up.

635
00:27:29,299 --> 00:27:30,823
Mmm.

636
00:27:30,866 --> 00:27:32,389
And we asked the esteemed

637
00:27:32,433 --> 00:27:34,304
doctor at Harvard,
Walter Willett.

638
00:27:34,348 --> 00:27:36,655
In the U.S., red meat
consumption is actually down

639
00:27:36,698 --> 00:27:39,222
about 40%
from the peak in 1970.

640
00:27:39,266 --> 00:27:40,833
Uh, it needs
to go down further.

641
00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:42,573
Uh, even
with sort of moderate efforts,

642
00:27:42,617 --> 00:27:44,532
we can make
big dietary changes.

643
00:27:44,575 --> 00:27:47,100
Now, you may be
surprised by their responses.

644
00:27:48,101 --> 00:27:49,450
Or maybe you're not.

645
00:27:49,493 --> 00:27:50,886
-I don't know.

646
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:52,496
Let's read
the letter I sent them.

647
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:54,324
"Dear Doctor, I am about...

648
00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:42,111
To make this as easy
as possible, we will conduct

649
00:28:42,155 --> 00:28:46,246
the interviews online, remotely
and at your convenience.

650
00:28:46,289 --> 00:28:48,944
I very much hope that you will
join me in this endeavor.

651
00:28:48,988 --> 00:28:50,990
And I look forward
to hearing from you.

652
00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:55,516
Pretty good, right?

653
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,126
Okay,
I'll get this out of the way.

654
00:28:57,170 --> 00:28:59,433
Dean Ornish just flat out
didn't respond.

655
00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:01,130
And Walter Willett said:

656
00:29:01,174 --> 00:29:02,958
"Due to the deluge of emails,

657
00:29:03,002 --> 00:29:05,482
I regrettably am not
able to respond to all of them.

658
00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:17,059
I had heard
that in high school,

659
00:29:17,103 --> 00:29:19,583
Dr. Willett's nickname was
Sassy, because I always

660
00:29:19,627 --> 00:29:21,542
thought that he had
an affinity for the cat

661
00:29:21,585 --> 00:29:23,239
-inHomeward Bound.
-

662
00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:24,893
Sassy!
- Sassy!

663
00:29:24,937 --> 00:29:27,766
My boys! My boys!
- Sassy!

664
00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:29,637
Then there's
Dr. John McDougall.

665
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,813
We sent
him the same exact letter,

666
00:29:31,857 --> 00:29:33,815
and shockingly, he wrote back.

667
00:29:33,859 --> 00:29:36,035
He wanted to know who was
financing the documentary

668
00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:37,993
and who would be
in the documentary.

669
00:29:38,037 --> 00:29:40,256
Fair questions,
to which we said...

670
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:43,390
"It is being
financed by Fat Squirrel Films.

671
00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:46,567
Potential guests:
Michael Greger, Lierre Keith,

672
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:49,396
Nina Teicholz,
Frederic Leroy and hosted

673
00:29:49,439 --> 00:29:51,093
by Vinnie Tortorich."

674
00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:53,095
"Sounds like something
I should contribute to!

675
00:29:53,139 --> 00:29:55,010
Keep me informed."

676
00:29:55,054 --> 00:29:56,925
I was completely
shocked that he was going to do

677
00:29:56,969 --> 00:29:59,101
this, but I thought this
must be too good to be true.

678
00:30:07,501 --> 00:30:08,894
Maybe I was wrong.

679
00:30:13,899 --> 00:30:15,335
And then he said:

680
00:30:20,731 --> 00:30:23,473
Oh. And then he gave
us another, "By the way."

681
00:30:32,526 --> 00:30:34,223
"And Frederick Leroy?

682
00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:36,791
The president
of the Belgian Association

683
00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:39,446
for Meat,
Science and Technology?"

684
00:30:39,489 --> 00:30:41,883
This does not sound
like anything but an invitation

685
00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:43,493
for controversy that sends...

686
00:31:01,511 --> 00:31:05,037
I live a life, uh,
that is, uh, dominated

687
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,690
by the correct
information.

688
00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:08,214
If I'm being
completely honest,

689
00:31:08,257 --> 00:31:10,129
I sort of expected
these responses.

690
00:31:10,172 --> 00:31:11,957
And there's more later.

691
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,046
But the clear thing to me is,
it doesn't matter

692
00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:17,527
how nice your letter is,
they don't want to debate.

693
00:31:17,571 --> 00:31:20,791
These guys do interviews all
the time and say things like...

694
00:31:20,835 --> 00:31:24,534
Healthy and sustainable diet,
uh, is a dietary pattern

695
00:31:24,578 --> 00:31:27,276
characterized
by unsaturated fats,

696
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,148
largely plant-based
proteins,

697
00:31:29,191 --> 00:31:31,367
whole grains,
abundant fruits and vegetables.

698
00:31:31,411 --> 00:31:33,282
And things like...

699
00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:35,197
There's all sorts of ways
you can get people to lose

700
00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:38,374
weight: tuberculosis,
a cocaine habit, aids,

701
00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:40,942
chemotherapy.
Lots of ways to lose weight.

702
00:31:40,986 --> 00:31:43,031
So, they're not
afraid to do interviews,

703
00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:46,426
just as long as you don't, you
know, ask them real questions.

704
00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:48,210
-So keep rocking--
-

705
00:31:48,254 --> 00:31:50,256
While I'm fine doing this only

706
00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:52,606
with those who do
agree with me, I still want to

707
00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:54,608
take a look at some of these
claims these people are making.

708
00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:56,305
So let's have at it.

709
00:31:56,349 --> 00:31:59,178
The reason I've spent
40 years conducting the highest

710
00:31:59,221 --> 00:32:01,528
quality research published
in the leading peer reviewed

711
00:32:01,571 --> 00:32:03,617
journals is that's really
the whole point of science,

712
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:05,836
is to help people sort
out what's true and what isn't.

713
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,056
The whole foods plant-based
diet that's low

714
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:11,320
in fat and sugar,
moderate exercise, various

715
00:32:11,364 --> 00:32:13,888
stress management techniques,
including meditation...

716
00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:16,021
-and psycho-social--
This is Dean Ornish.

717
00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:18,980
His claim to fame besides being
associated with Bill Clinton

718
00:32:19,024 --> 00:32:21,983
and the low fat movement,
is a lifestyle study he did

719
00:32:22,027 --> 00:32:24,420
that claims to show
plant-based diets

720
00:32:24,464 --> 00:32:25,856
reverse heart disease.

721
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,423
So you have done studies on

722
00:32:27,467 --> 00:32:30,426
people who have reversed
chronic heart disease.

723
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:33,168
We found that even severe
heart disease can be reversed.

724
00:32:33,212 --> 00:32:35,083
Type two diabetes,
high blood pressure,

725
00:32:35,127 --> 00:32:36,389
-high cholesterol--
- Yeah.

726
00:32:36,432 --> 00:32:38,043
--and even
early stage prostate

727
00:32:38,086 --> 00:32:39,827
cancer may be slowed,
stopped and even reversed.

728
00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:40,959
The problem with the study

729
00:32:41,002 --> 00:32:42,221
is the same as the rest.

730
00:32:42,264 --> 00:32:44,049
Correlation versus causation.

731
00:32:44,092 --> 00:32:46,529
The people in the study
who reversed heart

732
00:32:46,573 --> 00:32:49,402
disease with a plant-based
diet also exercise

733
00:32:49,445 --> 00:32:53,014
and meditated and focused
on well-being overall.

734
00:32:53,058 --> 00:32:55,321
Oh, and they cut sugar.

735
00:32:56,626 --> 00:32:59,760
I've talked about this before,
but cutting sugar and sticking

736
00:32:59,803 --> 00:33:03,372
to real food, plus exercise,
is going to work for anybody

737
00:33:03,416 --> 00:33:06,897
at first, regardless
of what food they're choosing.

738
00:33:06,941 --> 00:33:09,422
But as we talked about before,
the vitamin

739
00:33:09,465 --> 00:33:11,293
issue can't be avoided.

740
00:33:11,337 --> 00:33:12,991
Red meat has significant

741
00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:15,254
benefits as nutrients
for much of the world.

742
00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:17,430
Heart disease
and its causes are so varied

743
00:33:17,473 --> 00:33:20,172
that you can't just say,
"Eat this, don't eat that."

744
00:33:20,215 --> 00:33:22,696
The reason a lot of studies
show that red meat

745
00:33:22,739 --> 00:33:25,438
causes heart disease
is because those who smoke

746
00:33:25,481 --> 00:33:28,354
and drink are more
likely to eat red meat.

747
00:33:28,397 --> 00:33:30,356
If you're vegan
or plant-based,

748
00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:32,662
you're automatically more
concerned with your health

749
00:33:32,706 --> 00:33:36,057
and therefore more likely
to exercise as well.

750
00:33:36,101 --> 00:33:37,450
What about cancer?

751
00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,017
World Health Organization

752
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:40,975
says eating processed
meat poses the same

753
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,933
cancer risk as smoking.

754
00:33:42,977 --> 00:33:45,545
The report puts processed meats
such as bacon and hot dogs

755
00:33:45,588 --> 00:33:47,895
at the highest risk rating.

756
00:33:47,938 --> 00:33:50,463
That is the same
as cigarettes and alcohol.

757
00:33:50,506 --> 00:33:52,943
Red meat is called
the next highest risk.

758
00:33:52,987 --> 00:33:56,556
In the nutritional field,
um, they will typically

759
00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:00,168
also associate red meat
and processed meats.

760
00:34:00,212 --> 00:34:04,172
So, they make it very
often one category.

761
00:34:04,216 --> 00:34:06,696
And then they say, you know,
red meats and processed meats

762
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:08,611
are associated
with colorectal cancer

763
00:34:08,655 --> 00:34:10,657
and with all sorts
of cardiometabolic diseases.

764
00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:13,094
And probably
some of those products

765
00:34:13,138 --> 00:34:14,965
aren't all
that healthy for you.

766
00:34:15,009 --> 00:34:20,580
Um, but it is a extremely
heterogeneous category.

767
00:34:20,623 --> 00:34:23,191
Well, in general, if you wanted
to pick some food item

768
00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:26,455
in a negative way,
then, um, the oldest technique

769
00:34:26,499 --> 00:34:30,372
and strategy, uh, in the books
is really that you look

770
00:34:30,416 --> 00:34:32,026
at the worst offenders.

771
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:33,767
Even processed meats,

772
00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:35,682
the concept of processed meat--

773
00:34:35,725 --> 00:34:37,553
processed meats-- it involves
the worst of products.

774
00:34:37,597 --> 00:34:39,816
Oh, you know, the--
all of the deep fried nuggets

775
00:34:39,860 --> 00:34:43,342
and whatever's um-- whatever's
on the market now.

776
00:34:43,385 --> 00:34:46,823
Whenever they do the studies,
they mix red meat-- good,

777
00:34:46,867 --> 00:34:51,045
wholesome steaks, in with,
you know, things like salami,

778
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,788
hamburgers, and we don't
even know if they're taking

779
00:34:54,831 --> 00:34:57,138
the ketchup and all the goop
off of the hamburger.

780
00:34:57,182 --> 00:34:58,270
They're
talking about a hamburger

781
00:34:58,313 --> 00:34:59,967
from a hamburger joint.

782
00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:02,839
All of this gets lumped in,
so they're not just

783
00:35:02,883 --> 00:35:04,928
talking
about the one single food,

784
00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:07,540
they're talking about
all of it at the same time.

785
00:35:07,583 --> 00:35:09,977
Everybody from the World He--
Health Organization

786
00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:12,675
to the American Cancer Society
have said, "Don't eat

787
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,156
so much processed meats,
don't eat so much red meats."

788
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,027
They don't
like to differentiate.

789
00:35:17,071 --> 00:35:19,160
They all want to lump
it together with the worst

790
00:35:19,204 --> 00:35:22,163
of imaginable--
imaginable products.

791
00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:23,991
Processed meats.
Why are they bad?

792
00:35:24,034 --> 00:35:27,386
Well, in order to get
a meat to have shelf life,

793
00:35:27,429 --> 00:35:29,866
they have to add
stuff to it, chemicals.

794
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:32,652
They have to add sugar
in the form of dextrose.

795
00:35:32,695 --> 00:35:35,785
So in essence, we're
lumping in processed meats

796
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:39,180
and what you might get, say,
at a McDonald's or a fast food

797
00:35:39,224 --> 00:35:43,880
restaurant, with real red meat:
steak, ground chuck,

798
00:35:43,924 --> 00:35:46,231
real hamburgers
that you may have at home.

799
00:35:46,274 --> 00:35:48,102
But it's all lumped together.

800
00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:50,887
Then they throw it out and say
that it's cancer causing.

801
00:35:50,931 --> 00:35:53,455
Those studies,
repeated again and again

802
00:35:53,499 --> 00:35:55,544
and again multiple times
over the course of a year,

803
00:35:55,588 --> 00:36:00,636
penetrate the consciousness
of, um, the population.

804
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,377
They're picked up by the media.

805
00:36:02,421 --> 00:36:05,728
They're reported
as if they are causal findings,

806
00:36:05,772 --> 00:36:08,035
as if they're cause and effect,
when they're not.

807
00:36:08,078 --> 00:36:10,820
In order
to show cause and effect,

808
00:36:10,864 --> 00:36:12,996
you have
to do a clinical trial.

809
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,217
And so when you look
at the clinical trials

810
00:36:16,261 --> 00:36:20,830
on red meat, what has been
found in the meta analysis--

811
00:36:20,874 --> 00:36:23,093
that's when they do a review
of all the clinical trials--

812
00:36:23,137 --> 00:36:25,531
is they cannot
find that red meat

813
00:36:25,574 --> 00:36:27,228
causes any of these diseases.

814
00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:29,839
Based on the research,
we cannot say with any

815
00:36:29,883 --> 00:36:33,191
certainty that eating
red or processed meat causes

816
00:36:33,234 --> 00:36:35,758
cancer,
diabetes or heart disease.

817
00:36:35,802 --> 00:36:37,586
The study recommends adults

818
00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:40,459
continue current red
and processed meat consumption.

819
00:36:40,502 --> 00:36:44,202
It's a finding that's prompted
calls for a retraction.

820
00:36:44,245 --> 00:36:46,421
The most prominent critic,
Harvard School

821
00:36:46,465 --> 00:36:49,337
of Public Health,
which labeled that conclusion,

822
00:36:49,381 --> 00:36:51,774
"Irresponsible and unethical."

823
00:36:51,818 --> 00:36:53,950
Until you have
those clinical trials,

824
00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:58,738
you cannot convict meat
of causing these diseases.

825
00:36:58,781 --> 00:37:01,610
It's just--
We do not have the level

826
00:37:01,654 --> 00:37:04,874
of scientific evidence
that is needed to do that.

827
00:37:04,918 --> 00:37:07,573
So, you might ask yourself,
"Why aren't more studies done?"

828
00:37:07,616 --> 00:37:12,230
Well, studies cost a lot
of money. A lot of money.

829
00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:14,101
And who has money to do that?

830
00:37:14,144 --> 00:37:16,886
Big corporations,
the ones that want

831
00:37:16,930 --> 00:37:20,455
to see meat go away so that
you can buy their fake foods.

832
00:37:21,543 --> 00:37:24,111
These are confusing times,

833
00:37:24,154 --> 00:37:26,461
which is just about
the right time to have

834
00:37:26,505 --> 00:37:29,290
the Burger
King Impossible Whopper.

835
00:37:29,334 --> 00:37:31,814
A Whopper
made without beef that tastes

836
00:37:31,858 --> 00:37:35,470
just like a Whopper.

837
00:37:35,514 --> 00:37:36,993
So, what is happening

838
00:37:37,037 --> 00:37:38,865
is that they're turning

839
00:37:38,908 --> 00:37:42,216
the original notions
we had about food upside down.

840
00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:46,612
Um, and what was-- what was
cherished the most in the past

841
00:37:46,655 --> 00:37:49,571
by the previous generations
were the nutrient dense foods.

842
00:37:49,615 --> 00:37:53,532
And that, of course, included
meat and dairy, animal-sourced

843
00:37:53,575 --> 00:37:57,275
foods, that were essential
for food security before.

844
00:37:57,318 --> 00:38:00,147
And suddenly those products
have become the ones

845
00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:03,585
that we should avoid,
which is extremely surprising.

846
00:38:03,629 --> 00:38:07,807
Um, you even see that meat--
red meat in particular--

847
00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:10,549
is often
called an unhealthy food.

848
00:38:10,592 --> 00:38:12,377
And they-- they lump
it together with sugar

849
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:16,903
and with, um, refined, uh--
refined starches.

850
00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:20,385
So, that is a very
remarkable evolution.

851
00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:24,040
So, the reality is the world's
best diets from a vast array

852
00:38:24,084 --> 00:38:26,216
of evidence-- And-- and
this is what the true health

853
00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,915
initiative experts from all
around the world rally around.

854
00:38:28,958 --> 00:38:31,700
There-- there's a theme there,
and the basic theme--

855
00:38:31,744 --> 00:38:33,833
Michael Pollan said it nicely:
"Eat food,

856
00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:35,617
not too much, mostly plants."

857
00:38:35,661 --> 00:38:37,706
So, in essence,
we've never really had

858
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:39,752
a study done
in the opposite direction.

859
00:38:39,795 --> 00:38:41,406
Or have we?

860
00:38:41,449 --> 00:38:44,278
There's one going
on online right now.

861
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:47,455
It's a bunch of N1
experiments of people cutting

862
00:38:47,499 --> 00:38:50,023
out sugars and grains,
eating low carb,

863
00:38:50,066 --> 00:38:52,286
eating nothing
but meat and vegetables.

864
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,376
And it's an amazing
thing what's happening.

865
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:56,899
They're losing weight.

866
00:38:56,943 --> 00:39:00,076
They're reversing
type two diabetes.

867
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,600
They're reversing their A1Cs.

868
00:39:01,643 --> 00:39:04,167
These are
real people and real things.

869
00:39:04,211 --> 00:39:05,865
And I guess you're
going to say,

870
00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:09,347
"Well, an N1 experiment
is just one person.

871
00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:12,350
But when that experiment
happens over and over

872
00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:16,223
and over again, not a hundred
times, not a thousand times,

873
00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:17,920
not 10,000 times,

874
00:39:17,964 --> 00:39:20,706
but hundreds
of thousands of times,

875
00:39:20,749 --> 00:39:25,754
isn't that basically
an epidemiological study?

876
00:39:25,798 --> 00:39:29,454
Epidemiological studies are
exactly how they figured

877
00:39:29,497 --> 00:39:32,065
out the other
side of this equation.

878
00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:36,156
So if it works on that end,
it has to work

879
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:37,331
on the opposite end.

880
00:39:39,028 --> 00:39:40,508
Follow the science.

881
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:46,906
What you'll hear
very often is that they tell

882
00:39:46,949 --> 00:39:48,777
you to follow the science.

883
00:39:48,821 --> 00:39:53,216
And we see that academia--
a part of academia--

884
00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:55,958
maybe a-- the loudest part
of-- of academia--

885
00:39:56,002 --> 00:39:59,440
is, um, following
that narrative

886
00:39:59,484 --> 00:40:01,181
and pushing that narrative.

887
00:40:01,224 --> 00:40:04,053
Eco-anxiety is a condition
that people are reporting

888
00:40:04,097 --> 00:40:07,405
and it refers to the dread
and helplessness that come

889
00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:10,059
with watching the impacts
of climate change.

890
00:40:10,103 --> 00:40:12,627
Climate change is exploiting
the world's land

891
00:40:12,671 --> 00:40:14,760
at an unprecedented rate.

892
00:40:14,803 --> 00:40:16,457
Eating more plant-based foods

893
00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:18,720
and sustainably
produced meats can change

894
00:40:18,764 --> 00:40:20,853
land use
and mitigate climate change.

895
00:40:20,896 --> 00:40:23,290
Making conscious food
choices is a place

896
00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:25,945
where a lot of ground can
be made up by individuals.

897
00:40:25,988 --> 00:40:27,903
Would you like to try
a burger made with plants?

898
00:40:27,947 --> 00:40:29,470
-Plants?
- It's delicious,

899
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:31,951
and I am a kid,
so if I like it....

900
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,433
Mmm. Mmm. Mmm!

901
00:40:35,476 --> 00:40:37,173
Companies trying
to sell plant-based foods

902
00:40:37,217 --> 00:40:39,437
makes sense because
it's a new market

903
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,047
with lots of money to be made.

904
00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:43,136
But this isn't just
companies, per se,

905
00:40:43,179 --> 00:40:45,138
it's a group of people
from all over the world

906
00:40:45,181 --> 00:40:46,705
pushing a new way of eating

907
00:40:46,748 --> 00:40:48,533
that may ultimately
disturb you.

908
00:40:48,576 --> 00:40:50,491
First, there's EAT-Lancet.

909
00:40:50,535 --> 00:40:55,017
EAT-Lancet is pushing
an agenda right now

910
00:40:55,061 --> 00:40:58,673
that's called
the Planetary Health Diet.

911
00:41:00,109 --> 00:41:01,459
That's creepy.

912
00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:03,112
A new diet that some
scientists say

913
00:41:03,156 --> 00:41:05,027
could be the key
to sustainability.

914
00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:06,464
New research
published in

915
00:41:06,507 --> 00:41:08,074
the medical journal,
The Lancet,

916
00:41:08,117 --> 00:41:10,163
claimed that
the Planetary Health Diet

917
00:41:10,206 --> 00:41:12,644
will not only prevent further
damage to the environment

918
00:41:12,687 --> 00:41:15,037
but will also improve
our health.

919
00:41:15,081 --> 00:41:17,083
One of the
main examples is probably

920
00:41:17,126 --> 00:41:19,738
the Planetary Health Diet,

921
00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:24,003
which has been developed
by The EAT-Lancet Commission.

922
00:41:24,046 --> 00:41:26,832
That's a group
called EAT-Lancet.

923
00:41:26,875 --> 00:41:29,051
And they do
a lot of these studies.

924
00:41:29,095 --> 00:41:30,836
But when you go
to their website,

925
00:41:30,879 --> 00:41:32,751
what they claim is,

926
00:41:32,794 --> 00:41:35,754
"We're basing all of this
on sound science,

927
00:41:35,797 --> 00:41:40,367
impatient disruption
and novel partnerships."

928
00:41:40,410 --> 00:41:42,195
-They also say...
- However,

929
00:41:50,943 --> 00:41:53,554
"This change
requires reframing

930
00:41:53,598 --> 00:41:56,557
"at the population
and systemic levels.

931
00:41:56,601 --> 00:41:59,560
"By contrast,
hard policy interventions..."

932
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:22,583
The EAT-Lancet diet
has been designed

933
00:42:22,627 --> 00:42:24,933
based on health arguments.

934
00:42:24,977 --> 00:42:30,069
So it's not a diet
that has been designed for...

935
00:42:30,112 --> 00:42:31,592
the environmental part.

936
00:42:31,636 --> 00:42:34,377
The environmental parts
come later.

937
00:42:34,421 --> 00:42:36,597
First,
they designed it for health.

938
00:42:36,641 --> 00:42:38,773
And the person that

939
00:42:38,817 --> 00:42:41,428
is the architect of
the Planetary Health Diet

940
00:42:41,471 --> 00:42:44,605
is mostly Walter Willett
from Harvard.

941
00:42:44,649 --> 00:42:47,521
Now we have large, long term
epidemiologic studies

942
00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:49,175
where we've followed

943
00:42:49,218 --> 00:42:52,831
hundreds of thousands of people
for decades.

944
00:42:52,874 --> 00:42:56,617
And again we see, compared
to plant-based protein sources,

945
00:42:56,661 --> 00:43:00,142
red meat is related to higher
risks of type two diabetes,

946
00:43:00,186 --> 00:43:01,796
cardiovascular disease,

947
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,321
some cancers
and overall mortality.

948
00:43:05,365 --> 00:43:07,454
So you put all that together

949
00:43:07,497 --> 00:43:10,413
and the weight of evidence
is actually extremely strong.

950
00:43:10,457 --> 00:43:13,416
Walter Willett has been saying
since the early 1990s

951
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:17,464
that the correct amount of meat
to eat is nearly zero,

952
00:43:17,507 --> 00:43:19,771
that we should eat
very, very little meat.

953
00:43:19,814 --> 00:43:21,468
He doesn't believe in it.

954
00:43:21,511 --> 00:43:23,296
And he's been saying this
since the early '90s.

955
00:43:23,339 --> 00:43:27,605
He also runs a very
influential program at Harvard,

956
00:43:27,648 --> 00:43:29,389
the Harvard School
of Public Health,

957
00:43:29,432 --> 00:43:31,870
which he ran for decades.
He also published papers--

958
00:43:31,913 --> 00:43:35,264
78 papers, according
to one analysis that we did--

959
00:43:35,743 --> 00:43:38,877
Where the findings were
that red meat was associated

960
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,661
with negative health outcomes.

961
00:43:40,705 --> 00:43:43,098
And 130 findings

962
00:43:43,142 --> 00:43:45,361
that vegetarian,
or mostly vegetarian diets,

963
00:43:45,405 --> 00:43:47,581
were associated
with positive outcomes.

964
00:43:47,625 --> 00:43:50,149
Our study on the Harvard School
of Public Health

965
00:43:50,192 --> 00:43:52,151
found hundreds
of thousands of dollars

966
00:43:52,194 --> 00:43:54,762
given to it
by the nut industry,

967
00:43:54,806 --> 00:43:58,940
um, a source of protein
that's an alternative to meat.

968
00:43:58,984 --> 00:44:03,902
We found funding from groups
that believe in veganism,

969
00:44:03,945 --> 00:44:06,861
such as--
Who have an ideological

970
00:44:06,905 --> 00:44:09,777
or religious belief
in veganism,

971
00:44:09,821 --> 00:44:11,605
none of which are ever declared

972
00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:14,216
by Walter Willett
when he issues a paper.

973
00:44:14,260 --> 00:44:16,131
He always says that he has
no conflicts of interest

974
00:44:16,175 --> 00:44:18,525
and yet there is
this huge amount of funding

975
00:44:18,568 --> 00:44:21,920
for the school in general.
Now, EAT-Lancet

976
00:44:21,963 --> 00:44:27,012
successfully came to dominate
at the United Nations

977
00:44:27,055 --> 00:44:30,102
with its Planetary diet,
its global reference diet,

978
00:44:30,145 --> 00:44:31,625
whatever you want to call it,

979
00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:34,149
without having
a single conference

980
00:44:34,193 --> 00:44:37,675
or meeting that included
views to the contrary.

981
00:44:38,545 --> 00:44:40,852
So that's a stunning fact.

982
00:44:40,895 --> 00:44:43,811
The UN, with all its member
states and agencies,

983
00:44:43,855 --> 00:44:46,509
obviously have
a critical role to play

984
00:44:46,553 --> 00:44:49,164
in this great
food transformation ahead.

985
00:44:49,991 --> 00:44:53,386
And you have the power
to set the agenda

986
00:44:53,429 --> 00:44:55,693
and create the arenas

987
00:44:55,736 --> 00:45:00,523
to make sure that food becomes
a driving force for progress,

988
00:45:00,567 --> 00:45:03,875
for people, planet
and prosperity for all.

989
00:45:03,918 --> 00:45:06,834
Without any debate
or consideration

990
00:45:06,878 --> 00:45:10,142
from opposing sides
to reach a "consensus"

991
00:45:10,185 --> 00:45:12,361
about where the whole
planet ought to go

992
00:45:12,405 --> 00:45:13,928
in terms of nutrition.

993
00:45:13,972 --> 00:45:16,104
So I could not be more proud

994
00:45:16,148 --> 00:45:19,281
to introduce co-chair
Professor Walter Willett

995
00:45:19,325 --> 00:45:21,327
from Harvard School
of Public Health

996
00:45:21,370 --> 00:45:24,286
to present the key findings
of the EAT-Lancet

997
00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:27,725
landmark report
on food planet health.

998
00:45:28,682 --> 00:45:32,077
It is
important to investigate,

999
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,298
to examine every detail
and wonder...

1000
00:45:36,342 --> 00:45:38,866
We're not here
to do things by the book.

1001
00:45:39,562 --> 00:45:41,129
Ask around.

1002
00:45:41,173 --> 00:45:42,870
Please do.

1003
00:45:42,914 --> 00:45:44,742
Define
a healthy reference diet.

1004
00:45:44,785 --> 00:45:46,700
A question
is like a journey...

1005
00:45:46,744 --> 00:45:48,746
Defined
planetary boundaries.

1006
00:45:48,789 --> 00:45:50,617
A quest...

1007
00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:52,358
Global food
system modeling framework.

1008
00:45:52,401 --> 00:45:54,708
Nothing important
will ever happen

1009
00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:58,407
as long as you
don't dare to ask....

1010
00:45:58,451 --> 00:46:00,061
We do have strong data

1011
00:46:00,105 --> 00:46:01,802
to support
moving down the pathway

1012
00:46:01,846 --> 00:46:03,325
toward achieving these goals.

1013
00:46:03,369 --> 00:46:06,676
Free. Open.

1014
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,766
Question everything....

1015
00:46:10,376 --> 00:46:12,595
We-- we do see that feeding

1016
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,163
10 billion people a year
a healthy diet

1017
00:46:15,207 --> 00:46:17,252
can stay within
our planetary boundaries.

1018
00:46:17,296 --> 00:46:21,343
It really is possible and
we can have the opportunity

1019
00:46:21,387 --> 00:46:24,912
of passing on to
our children a healthy planet.

1020
00:46:24,956 --> 00:46:26,087
Thank you.

1021
00:46:31,397 --> 00:46:32,877
This is a group
that wants to change

1022
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,227
the global food system.

1023
00:46:36,054 --> 00:46:38,839
I'm not really sure
what that means.

1024
00:46:38,883 --> 00:46:41,537
You're going to tell me
that a Cajun in Louisiana

1025
00:46:41,581 --> 00:46:43,365
is gonna eat the same thing

1026
00:46:43,409 --> 00:46:47,021
that someone in the Maasai
tribe in Africa is gonna eat?

1027
00:46:47,065 --> 00:46:50,895
Or even a guy
up in Reykjavik, Iceland?

1028
00:46:50,938 --> 00:46:52,635
How do you bring
the world together

1029
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:54,289
to eat the same food

1030
00:46:54,333 --> 00:46:56,465
or to think the same way?

1031
00:46:56,509 --> 00:46:58,903
It's not natural.
It's never been done

1032
00:46:58,946 --> 00:47:01,775
and I doubt it's gonna
get done here.

1033
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:03,385
But what we're going
to end up with

1034
00:47:03,429 --> 00:47:05,518
is a big mess along the way.

1035
00:47:08,651 --> 00:47:10,958
EAT-Lancet does say
you can have beef.

1036
00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:13,439
But how much?

1037
00:47:13,482 --> 00:47:15,049
Well, I looked into it.

1038
00:47:15,745 --> 00:47:18,270
It's seven grams...

1039
00:47:18,313 --> 00:47:19,619
per day.

1040
00:47:19,662 --> 00:47:21,969
You want to know
how much seven grams is?

1041
00:47:22,752 --> 00:47:26,365
This chunk of cheese
is seven grams.

1042
00:47:28,802 --> 00:47:31,544
This is what
EAT-Lancet wants you to have

1043
00:47:31,587 --> 00:47:34,025
per day in beef.

1044
00:47:34,547 --> 00:47:36,375
I did more math.

1045
00:47:36,984 --> 00:47:41,206
This amount of cheese
could feed a family of four.

1046
00:47:41,249 --> 00:47:45,297
This here is seven grams of
jerky, beef jerky, okay?

1047
00:47:45,340 --> 00:47:47,647
Um, if anybody thinks
that that's enough

1048
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:50,737
for an adult, uh,
person to consume,

1049
00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:53,218
uh, that person either
doesn't understand nutrition

1050
00:47:53,261 --> 00:47:56,177
or doesn't understand
human culture or human nature.

1051
00:47:56,221 --> 00:47:58,049
This is just simply laughable.

1052
00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:03,445
Uh, yes, you can do very well
without any animal products.

1053
00:48:03,489 --> 00:48:05,230
I do mention though,
keeping an eye

1054
00:48:05,273 --> 00:48:07,188
on the B12 issue is important.

1055
00:48:07,232 --> 00:48:10,757
Uh, some people, uh,
not paying attention

1056
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,108
end up with various
major neurologic diseases

1057
00:48:14,152 --> 00:48:16,154
because of that.
But there's a simple fix,

1058
00:48:16,197 --> 00:48:18,808
uh, of-- by taking supplements

1059
00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:20,941
or fortified food
for the B12 part of it.

1060
00:48:20,985 --> 00:48:22,943
Walter Willett,
he says he's gonna

1061
00:48:22,987 --> 00:48:24,466
tell us what to think.

1062
00:48:32,344 --> 00:48:33,867
Yeah, yeah,
you remember the quote.

1063
00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:35,869
Willett had a hand
in writing that

1064
00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:38,393
along with all the other
good folks at EAT-Lancet.

1065
00:48:38,437 --> 00:48:41,788
This essentially means
this unelected body of people

1066
00:48:41,831 --> 00:48:43,659
are pushing to get
policy passed

1067
00:48:43,703 --> 00:48:44,878
that will raise
the price of meat

1068
00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:46,575
in a variety of different ways

1069
00:48:46,619 --> 00:48:48,795
while pushing a diet
not based on evidence

1070
00:48:48,838 --> 00:48:50,623
or how people behave.

1071
00:48:50,666 --> 00:48:53,626
We also need
to deal with policy and

1072
00:48:53,669 --> 00:48:57,064
use economic levers,
uh, taxes and subsidies

1073
00:48:57,108 --> 00:49:02,722
to make it, uh, be...
uh, a viable choice

1074
00:49:02,765 --> 00:49:04,942
for everybody along
the food chain.

1075
00:49:04,985 --> 00:49:07,466
They will actually
have to force us

1076
00:49:07,509 --> 00:49:10,251
to do what they want us to do

1077
00:49:10,295 --> 00:49:15,039
in order to comply with
their global eating plan.

1078
00:49:15,082 --> 00:49:19,347
This work done by EAT-Lancet
is really the pathway forward.

1079
00:49:19,391 --> 00:49:21,523
It's the compass. And the
people who have produced it

1080
00:49:21,567 --> 00:49:23,003
are very courageous,

1081
00:49:23,047 --> 00:49:24,657
they're gonna
come under attack.

1082
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:26,311
And they will continue
to come under attack

1083
00:49:26,354 --> 00:49:28,008
but it's important.

1084
00:49:28,052 --> 00:49:30,097
And that's because
the future of people

1085
00:49:30,141 --> 00:49:31,664
and the planet depend on it.

1086
00:49:34,928 --> 00:49:36,451
The Planetary Health Diet is

1087
00:49:36,495 --> 00:49:38,671
a global reference diet
for adults

1088
00:49:38,714 --> 00:49:40,455
that is symbolically
represented

1089
00:49:40,499 --> 00:49:43,241
by half a plate of fruits,
vegetables and nuts.

1090
00:49:43,284 --> 00:49:46,026
The other half consists
of primarily whole grains,

1091
00:49:46,070 --> 00:49:48,246
plant protein,
beans, lentils, pulses,

1092
00:49:48,289 --> 00:49:49,899
unsaturated plant oils,

1093
00:49:49,943 --> 00:49:52,119
modest amounts
of meat and dairy

1094
00:49:52,163 --> 00:49:54,992
and some added sugars
and starchy vegetables.

1095
00:49:55,035 --> 00:49:56,558
I don't know
about you but that sounds

1096
00:49:56,602 --> 00:49:58,343
like a recipe for getting fat.

1097
00:49:58,386 --> 00:50:00,040
If you look at the actual grams

1098
00:50:00,084 --> 00:50:01,955
that they proposed
for these carbs,

1099
00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:04,349
they recommend eating almost
two and a half pounds

1100
00:50:04,392 --> 00:50:06,307
of carb-heavy foods every day.

1101
00:50:06,351 --> 00:50:09,049
But my God,
stay away from meat!

1102
00:50:09,093 --> 00:50:10,964
All you have to do
is follow the money.

1103
00:50:11,008 --> 00:50:14,707
It turns out that EAT-Lancet's
Planetary Health Diet

1104
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:18,145
is in partnership with
the World Economic Forum.

1105
00:50:18,189 --> 00:50:21,627
We will now start
a quite high number

1106
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:25,326
of taskforces to look at
all the different issues.

1107
00:50:26,327 --> 00:50:28,634
What do we need to do
in the next year

1108
00:50:28,677 --> 00:50:31,332
to improve
the financing situation

1109
00:50:31,376 --> 00:50:33,943
for global food system
transformation?

1110
00:50:33,987 --> 00:50:36,076
What-- what can we
all do to help?

1111
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,210
Actually, I just
mentioned that my donor

1112
00:50:39,253 --> 00:50:42,169
have actually committed,
last year--

1113
00:50:42,213 --> 00:50:46,043
Last month here in Stockholm,
actually, four billion--

1114
00:50:46,086 --> 00:50:47,740
Four billion--?

1115
00:50:47,783 --> 00:50:51,787
Actually half billion
is dedicated to food system.

1116
00:50:51,831 --> 00:50:53,746
To me,
it's a major, major victory

1117
00:50:53,789 --> 00:50:56,488
that we should all
congratulate ourselves.

1118
00:50:56,531 --> 00:50:58,533
Are they really interested

1119
00:50:58,577 --> 00:51:00,492
in the ethics of
this whole thing?

1120
00:51:00,535 --> 00:51:04,017
Do they really care about
the environment or our health?

1121
00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:07,020
Or is this just purely
economical on their part?

1122
00:51:07,064 --> 00:51:09,979
I hate all human beings.

1123
00:51:10,023 --> 00:51:14,027
All humans are a psychotic
scourge to this planet.

1124
00:51:14,071 --> 00:51:15,550
You know what the animals
would say to you

1125
00:51:15,594 --> 00:51:16,682
if they could speak?

1126
00:51:16,725 --> 00:51:18,466
Don't fucking kill me--

1127
00:51:21,165 --> 00:51:22,514
Where'd my tooth go?

1128
00:51:22,557 --> 00:51:23,732
Did I just fucking
break my tooth?

1129
00:51:25,778 --> 00:51:27,388
A vegan fried egg.

1130
00:51:27,432 --> 00:51:29,434
100%,
the only guilt-free option

1131
00:51:29,477 --> 00:51:31,044
you're going to have
for Thanksgiving.

1132
00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:32,959
To be sure,
there are people

1133
00:51:33,002 --> 00:51:34,787
who believe what they're saying
but a lot of the time

1134
00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:36,310
they don't come with
any other evidence

1135
00:51:36,354 --> 00:51:38,530
as to why,
other than, "Don't!"

1136
00:51:38,573 --> 00:51:42,534
Once you see the science,
I think you will agree that

1137
00:51:42,577 --> 00:51:45,537
you're glad you were not on
a ketogenic diet.

1138
00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:50,194
Okay. Bottom line is, um...

1139
00:51:50,237 --> 00:51:51,847
do not eat a ketogenic diet.

1140
00:51:51,891 --> 00:51:53,893
Meanwhile,
very powerful people

1141
00:51:53,936 --> 00:51:56,025
are doing their thing
behind the scenes

1142
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:57,592
to make sure
their agendas get passed

1143
00:51:57,636 --> 00:51:59,551
and we're just
letting it happen.

1144
00:51:59,594 --> 00:52:01,422
It's pervaded everything, too.

1145
00:52:01,466 --> 00:52:03,729
Not just the dark but somehow
brazenly public corners

1146
00:52:03,772 --> 00:52:06,166
of the political world.
I was watching one of these

1147
00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:07,950
vegan propaganda documentaries.

1148
00:52:07,994 --> 00:52:09,865
It was about changing
the game or something

1149
00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:11,824
where they take athletes.

1150
00:52:11,867 --> 00:52:14,043
They're saying, "Hey, these are
the best athletes in the world

1151
00:52:14,087 --> 00:52:16,002
because they only eat
a vegan diet

1152
00:52:16,045 --> 00:52:17,960
and they never touch red meat!"

1153
00:52:18,004 --> 00:52:20,224
And then they go into
some of these athletes.

1154
00:52:23,357 --> 00:52:26,317
Well, one guy
they claimed was, well,

1155
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,362
one of the strongest people
in the world.

1156
00:52:28,406 --> 00:52:31,104
Patrick is one of the
strongest men on the planet

1157
00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:32,758
with multiple world records,

1158
00:52:32,801 --> 00:52:34,760
including the front hold,

1159
00:52:34,803 --> 00:52:36,718
the keg lift

1160
00:52:36,762 --> 00:52:38,155
and the log lift.

1161
00:52:39,417 --> 00:52:41,810
Which is odd because...

1162
00:52:41,854 --> 00:52:43,508
I like watching
those competitions

1163
00:52:43,551 --> 00:52:45,466
and I had never seen
this guy show up

1164
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:48,077
in one of
the strong man competitions,

1165
00:52:48,121 --> 00:52:50,950
so I got curious
and I started looking around

1166
00:52:50,993 --> 00:52:52,343
and what did I find?

1167
00:52:52,386 --> 00:52:55,041
He did win
a strong man competition.

1168
00:52:55,084 --> 00:52:57,043
It was called Veg Fest.

1169
00:52:57,086 --> 00:53:00,220
That's right.
He was the strongest vegan

1170
00:53:00,264 --> 00:53:03,223
at that competition that day,

1171
00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:06,139
meaning that amongst
the weakest athletes,

1172
00:53:06,183 --> 00:53:07,793
he was the strongest.

1173
00:53:19,196 --> 00:53:21,241
Who says that vegans are skinny

1174
00:53:21,285 --> 00:53:23,287
and can't lift paper?

1175
00:53:23,330 --> 00:53:24,984
There was another woman
they were touting

1176
00:53:25,027 --> 00:53:27,813
as an Olympic great
in the movie.

1177
00:53:27,856 --> 00:53:30,859
She was a 400 meter runner
from Australia.

1178
00:53:31,425 --> 00:53:33,297
Morgan Mitchell
is the two-time

1179
00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:35,342
Australian 400 meter champion.

1180
00:53:35,386 --> 00:53:37,039
Here comes Morgan Mitchell.

1181
00:53:37,083 --> 00:53:38,780
This is very, very fast.

1182
00:53:38,824 --> 00:53:41,087
So I wanted
to look into her and see

1183
00:53:41,130 --> 00:53:43,524
how many gold medals she'd won.

1184
00:53:43,568 --> 00:53:45,570
Well, she didn't.

1185
00:53:45,613 --> 00:53:47,224
But that's not a big deal.

1186
00:53:47,267 --> 00:53:49,356
Maybe she won a silver,

1187
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,836
so I looked into that.

1188
00:53:50,879 --> 00:53:53,708
No, she wasn't even
on the podium.

1189
00:53:53,752 --> 00:53:55,971
Well, I was very
interested to see,

1190
00:53:56,015 --> 00:53:57,625
maybe she was in fourth place,

1191
00:53:57,669 --> 00:53:59,497
so I started looking into it.

1192
00:53:59,540 --> 00:54:01,281
As it turns out,

1193
00:54:01,325 --> 00:54:05,329
she finished 24th overall
at the Olympic Games

1194
00:54:05,372 --> 00:54:07,766
behind 23 meat eaters.

1195
00:54:07,809 --> 00:54:11,291
A lot of people had doubted me
when I first became vegan

1196
00:54:11,335 --> 00:54:14,425
but my energy levels
increased incredibly.

1197
00:54:14,468 --> 00:54:17,254
And my iron, my B12, everything
that people said would

1198
00:54:17,297 --> 00:54:19,212
become deficient were amazing.

1199
00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:21,040
One of the other people
that was associated

1200
00:54:21,083 --> 00:54:23,477
with this movie was the great
Arnold Schwarzenegger.

1201
00:54:23,521 --> 00:54:24,913
We all love Arnold!

1202
00:54:24,957 --> 00:54:26,611
He was the Governator!

1203
00:54:26,654 --> 00:54:28,221
Arnold Schwarzenegger
did some of

1204
00:54:28,265 --> 00:54:29,570
the best movies of all time.

1205
00:54:29,614 --> 00:54:31,311
I am a big fan.

1206
00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:32,834
And somehow, in this movie,

1207
00:54:32,878 --> 00:54:35,272
he miraculously became a vegan.

1208
00:54:35,315 --> 00:54:37,099
I ate a lot of meat.

1209
00:54:37,143 --> 00:54:40,842
I ate maybe 10, 15 eggs a day.

1210
00:54:40,886 --> 00:54:44,803
And, you know, had
my 250 grams of protein a day

1211
00:54:44,846 --> 00:54:46,761
because I weighed 250 pounds.

1212
00:54:47,501 --> 00:54:49,764
The one and
only Arnold Schwarzenegger.

1213
00:54:49,808 --> 00:54:51,375
But as I got older

1214
00:54:51,418 --> 00:54:53,246
and as I started
reading up on it,

1215
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,988
I recognized the fact that
you really don't have

1216
00:54:56,031 --> 00:54:57,903
to get your protein from meat.

1217
00:54:57,946 --> 00:55:01,428
And then in a YouTube video
right after the movie came out,

1218
00:55:01,472 --> 00:55:02,995
he opened his fridge

1219
00:55:03,038 --> 00:55:04,431
to show a ton of eggs.

1220
00:55:04,475 --> 00:55:05,911
Not vegan, by the way.

1221
00:55:05,954 --> 00:55:07,347
And he even said this:

1222
00:55:07,391 --> 00:55:09,218
-Do you cook at all?
-Yeah, of course.

1223
00:55:09,262 --> 00:55:11,656
My favorite thing to cook is,
of course, steak.

1224
00:55:11,699 --> 00:55:13,222
Right.
So of course the movie

1225
00:55:13,266 --> 00:55:15,224
wants you
to think Arnold's vegan

1226
00:55:15,268 --> 00:55:17,357
but he still eats
eggs and steak.

1227
00:55:17,401 --> 00:55:19,664
So I'm figuring if
they got all of this wrong

1228
00:55:19,707 --> 00:55:22,536
about the movie,
could any of it be true?

1229
00:55:22,580 --> 00:55:24,277
I wanted to figure out
who made this movie.

1230
00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:25,539
Where did this come from?

1231
00:55:25,583 --> 00:55:27,367
Was it EAT-Lancet?

1232
00:55:27,411 --> 00:55:28,803
No, it wasn't.

1233
00:55:28,847 --> 00:55:31,545
It was filmmaker,
James Cameron.

1234
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:34,374
And as it turns out,
he made the whole movie

1235
00:55:34,418 --> 00:55:37,856
to push
his vegan propaganda product,

1236
00:55:37,899 --> 00:55:39,248
a pea protein.

1237
00:55:39,292 --> 00:55:40,598
The output of the plant

1238
00:55:40,641 --> 00:55:42,382
is three different products:

1239
00:55:42,426 --> 00:55:44,776
It's pea protein concentrate.

1240
00:55:44,819 --> 00:55:46,255
It is pea starch

1241
00:55:46,299 --> 00:55:47,996
and it's also pea fiber.

1242
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,998
In terms of the deal
coming together,

1243
00:55:50,042 --> 00:55:52,349
it was the Camerons
and it was really thanks

1244
00:55:52,392 --> 00:55:54,873
to their networks
that we were able to

1245
00:55:54,916 --> 00:55:58,224
jump on
this Ingredion opportunity.

1246
00:55:58,267 --> 00:56:00,618
From Verdient's perspective,

1247
00:56:00,661 --> 00:56:02,576
the fact that
we have the Camerons

1248
00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:04,099
putting their money into this

1249
00:56:04,143 --> 00:56:06,101
and the fact
that we have Ingredion,

1250
00:56:06,145 --> 00:56:07,581
a global ingredients company,

1251
00:56:07,625 --> 00:56:09,540
that has come to
the table, too.

1252
00:56:09,583 --> 00:56:12,281
I think that really proves
that we have something here.

1253
00:56:12,325 --> 00:56:13,718
This is something
that's lasting.

1254
00:56:13,761 --> 00:56:15,502
This will be a legacy for us.

1255
00:56:15,546 --> 00:56:17,852
But we also see it
as just the start of a--

1256
00:56:17,896 --> 00:56:21,116
of a bigger vision
for the development of--

1257
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,857
of food products and

1258
00:56:22,901 --> 00:56:24,990
going all the way back
to the source:

1259
00:56:25,033 --> 00:56:28,602
how it's grown, what the
agricultural practices are,

1260
00:56:28,646 --> 00:56:30,691
how to make that
as sustainable as possible.

1261
00:56:30,735 --> 00:56:33,868
James Cameron
created and invested in

1262
00:56:33,912 --> 00:56:37,132
North America's largest
pea protein plant:

1263
00:56:39,831 --> 00:56:41,180
It's not like
there was any kind of

1264
00:56:41,223 --> 00:56:42,921
conflict of interest there.

1265
00:56:42,964 --> 00:56:45,140
And how to shift the world,
how to move--

1266
00:56:45,184 --> 00:56:47,795
move the needle toward
better ways of--

1267
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:50,711
of eating and better ways of--
of growing.

1268
00:56:50,755 --> 00:56:53,192
And so I thought,
"Wow, this is a win-win.

1269
00:56:53,235 --> 00:56:54,846
I'll just cut out
all the meat and dairy.

1270
00:56:54,889 --> 00:56:57,022
Um, I'm doing my thing
for the environment.

1271
00:56:57,065 --> 00:56:58,502
And I'm doing my thing for my--

1272
00:56:58,545 --> 00:57:00,417
for myself
and my own longevity."

1273
00:57:00,460 --> 00:57:02,462
And as a father,
I need to be around

1274
00:57:02,506 --> 00:57:05,160
to protect my family, you know,
so it just all added up.

1275
00:57:05,204 --> 00:57:08,033
I was like, "Wow, where's
the bad news in this story?

1276
00:57:08,076 --> 00:57:09,991
-There isn't any."
-Here's the crazy part

1277
00:57:10,035 --> 00:57:11,776
about all of these fake meats.

1278
00:57:11,819 --> 00:57:14,996
They're not really made
from vegetables.

1279
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,216
They're made from
monocultured crops.

1280
00:57:17,259 --> 00:57:19,218
That's right.
They're made from starches,

1281
00:57:19,261 --> 00:57:22,090
fake proteins and seed oils.

1282
00:57:22,134 --> 00:57:24,789
By the way, we listed
all the ingredients earlier

1283
00:57:24,832 --> 00:57:26,660
but there's something else
you need to know:

1284
00:57:26,704 --> 00:57:30,403
They are cheaply made
in Chinese processing plants

1285
00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:32,144
and furthermore, Beyond Meat

1286
00:57:32,187 --> 00:57:35,277
has partnered with
companies like McDonald's,

1287
00:57:35,321 --> 00:57:37,062
Pizza Hut and Pepsi.

1288
00:57:37,105 --> 00:57:38,455
What does that tell you?

1289
00:57:38,498 --> 00:57:40,326
At one level,
they're telling you

1290
00:57:40,369 --> 00:57:42,023
these fast foods are bad

1291
00:57:42,067 --> 00:57:44,939
but then they fall
right into bed with them.

1292
00:57:44,983 --> 00:57:46,680
So you might say to yourself,

1293
00:57:46,724 --> 00:57:48,726
"Well, maybe they're partnering
with those companies

1294
00:57:48,769 --> 00:57:52,730
to make those companies better,
to serve healthier foods."

1295
00:57:52,773 --> 00:57:55,646
But we've already listed
what's in Beyond Meat.

1296
00:57:55,689 --> 00:57:57,517
It's not healthy for you.

1297
00:57:57,561 --> 00:58:00,041
They're not doing you
any favors.

1298
00:58:00,085 --> 00:58:01,521
Listen, I get it.

1299
00:58:01,565 --> 00:58:04,089
A lot of this makes me
sound like a kook.

1300
00:58:04,132 --> 00:58:05,482
But here's the deal.

1301
00:58:05,525 --> 00:58:07,353
I don't have
a problem with vegans.

1302
00:58:07,396 --> 00:58:10,791
These are people who decided
to do the right thing.

1303
00:58:10,835 --> 00:58:13,098
Their good intentions
have been stolen.

1304
00:58:13,141 --> 00:58:15,274
I'm just trying
to help them get it back.

1305
00:58:15,317 --> 00:58:17,102
If you haven't gone vegan yet,

1306
00:58:17,145 --> 00:58:20,018
I definitely recommend
you do your research.

1307
00:58:20,061 --> 00:58:22,324
-Educate yourself.
-I did my research.

1308
00:58:22,368 --> 00:58:25,893
Mistake number one,
I didn't do any research.

1309
00:58:25,937 --> 00:58:27,504
-Educate yourself.
-I have been doing

1310
00:58:27,547 --> 00:58:29,418
a lot of research
but I'm not gonna kiss you

1311
00:58:29,462 --> 00:58:31,812
'cause I don't want to kiss
someone who just ate meat.

1312
00:58:31,856 --> 00:58:34,075
Here's the thing.
This is a cult now.

1313
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:35,773
It's a religion.

1314
00:58:35,816 --> 00:58:37,514
If you ever question
a study or any number

1315
00:58:37,557 --> 00:58:40,778
they put out,
in any way, it's heresy.

1316
00:58:40,821 --> 00:58:43,041
Yes, it does include
family members of mine

1317
00:58:43,084 --> 00:58:45,478
who actually continue
eating meat and dairy.

1318
00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:47,175
I've watched Earthlings.
I know all the facts.

1319
00:58:47,219 --> 00:58:49,134
They've been educated
but they choose

1320
00:58:49,177 --> 00:58:51,136
to continue eating
animal products,

1321
00:58:51,179 --> 00:58:55,140
whether they actually deserve
to continue living...

1322
00:58:55,183 --> 00:58:56,576
Can you imagine

1323
00:58:56,620 --> 00:58:58,709
someone coming after you
for what you eat?

1324
00:58:58,752 --> 00:59:00,449
Does this sound normal?

1325
00:59:00,493 --> 00:59:02,016
I mean, it's sort of like how

1326
00:59:02,060 --> 00:59:03,931
Scientologists
behave, to be honest.

1327
00:59:03,975 --> 00:59:05,890
And you know what?
When you die,

1328
00:59:05,933 --> 00:59:08,066
you'll die alone and in pain
and in the dark.

1329
00:59:09,502 --> 00:59:10,982
Don't get on my bad side,

1330
00:59:11,025 --> 00:59:13,288
make some vegan gains
and be nice to animals.

1331
00:59:13,332 --> 00:59:14,768
Or I'll kill you.

1332
00:59:14,812 --> 00:59:16,596
You know, when you
enter this world, it--

1333
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,337
that's how you get in, is--

1334
00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:20,513
you know, usually you
meet somebody who's a vegan.

1335
00:59:20,557 --> 00:59:22,733
They have
a very compelling argument

1336
00:59:22,776 --> 00:59:25,126
and you decide
to investigate it

1337
00:59:25,170 --> 00:59:27,041
and then you're all in.

1338
00:59:27,085 --> 00:59:30,044
And once you're all in, it's
really hard to get back out.

1339
00:59:30,088 --> 00:59:33,004
Take a woman named
Lierre Keith, for example.

1340
00:59:33,047 --> 00:59:34,745
Well, who is she?

1341
00:59:34,788 --> 00:59:37,182
Well, she was a staunch vegan
for most of her life.

1342
00:59:37,225 --> 00:59:38,792
The thing about being
a vegan was that it--

1343
00:59:38,836 --> 00:59:40,446
it wasn't about what I ate.

1344
00:59:40,489 --> 00:59:42,622
It became who I was.

1345
00:59:42,666 --> 00:59:43,928
She went through
her teen years,

1346
00:59:43,971 --> 00:59:45,451
she went through her '20s.

1347
00:59:45,494 --> 00:59:48,019
This woman was--
was building gardens.

1348
00:59:48,062 --> 00:59:49,411
She-- you know, she became--

1349
00:59:49,455 --> 00:59:52,023
she was immersed in
the lifestyle.

1350
00:59:52,066 --> 00:59:53,894
But she started
having problems.

1351
00:59:53,938 --> 00:59:56,027
Veganism was supposed
to cure everything.

1352
00:59:56,070 --> 00:59:58,507
It wasn't supposed
to make you sick and,

1353
00:59:58,551 --> 01:00:00,379
you know,
destroy your spine and

1354
01:00:00,422 --> 01:00:02,816
wreck your reproductive organs
and all the rest of it.

1355
01:00:02,860 --> 01:00:05,950
And so I just-- I never put
two and two together, right?

1356
01:00:05,993 --> 01:00:07,734
But as the years went by,

1357
01:00:07,778 --> 01:00:09,127
you know,
all my friends are vegan.

1358
01:00:09,170 --> 01:00:10,476
My sister's vegan.

1359
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:11,999
We're all
being vegans together.

1360
01:00:12,043 --> 01:00:13,827
One by one,
they start dropping out,

1361
01:00:13,871 --> 01:00:15,481
you know, like,
the eight year mark,

1362
01:00:15,524 --> 01:00:17,701
the 10 year mark,
12 years my sister made it.

1363
01:00:17,744 --> 01:00:19,659
So this goes on.
I'm, like, the last holdout

1364
01:00:19,703 --> 01:00:21,400
in my little,
you know, my little group.

1365
01:00:21,443 --> 01:00:23,968
Once she decided to try beef

1366
01:00:24,011 --> 01:00:26,013
and she felt better instantly,

1367
01:00:26,057 --> 01:00:27,493
the problems began.

1368
01:00:27,536 --> 01:00:30,496
The vegan community
came after her.

1369
01:00:31,062 --> 01:00:33,020
As a matter of fact,
Lierre Keith

1370
01:00:33,064 --> 01:00:36,328
was on stage one day,
giving a talk,

1371
01:00:36,371 --> 01:00:38,939
and there were a bunch
of vegans in the audience.

1372
01:00:38,983 --> 01:00:42,334
On brand for what happened, it
was at an anarchist book fair

1373
01:00:42,377 --> 01:00:45,163
and Lierre Keith
got a pie thrown in her face.

1374
01:00:45,206 --> 01:00:47,078
There's a video of it
on YouTube

1375
01:00:47,121 --> 01:00:49,341
and you'd think it was
a comedy bit by the comments,

1376
01:00:49,384 --> 01:00:50,690
which we'll get to.

1377
01:00:50,734 --> 01:00:52,300
To be quite honest with you,

1378
01:00:52,344 --> 01:00:54,389
it looked funny to me
the first time I saw it

1379
01:00:54,433 --> 01:00:57,697
until I learned
that those pies were laced

1380
01:00:57,741 --> 01:00:59,525
with cayenne pepper.

1381
01:00:59,568 --> 01:01:01,179
You know,
suddenly the world went black

1382
01:01:01,222 --> 01:01:02,702
and there was
blinding pain in my eyes.

1383
01:01:02,746 --> 01:01:04,704
And I have to say that
the worst moment

1384
01:01:04,748 --> 01:01:06,706
of the assault was hearing
people in the audience cheer.

1385
01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:09,056
When you are in that world,
it really is one part cult.

1386
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:10,275
There were
clearly people there

1387
01:01:10,318 --> 01:01:11,885
who knew what was coming.

1388
01:01:11,929 --> 01:01:13,713
The audience
was full of vegans

1389
01:01:13,757 --> 01:01:16,673
and not one person
stood up to help this woman.

1390
01:01:17,151 --> 01:01:19,850
And if you look at the comments
under the video on YouTube,

1391
01:01:19,893 --> 01:01:22,766
you see what I truly hope are
the fringes of society.

1392
01:01:30,425 --> 01:01:33,733
I think most vegans
are just trying to be healthy.

1393
01:01:33,777 --> 01:01:36,518
They don't proselytize,
they're just doing their thing.

1394
01:01:36,562 --> 01:01:38,738
They think they're eating
the best diet for them

1395
01:01:38,782 --> 01:01:41,349
and they may very well
be doing that.

1396
01:01:41,393 --> 01:01:44,744
But then there's this whole
other faction where it's--

1397
01:01:44,788 --> 01:01:46,615
I would like to say
it's almost militant

1398
01:01:46,659 --> 01:01:48,313
but it's militant.

1399
01:01:48,356 --> 01:01:50,750
When you're slapping
cayenne peppered pies

1400
01:01:50,794 --> 01:01:53,318
into someone's face
and going to restaurants

1401
01:01:53,361 --> 01:01:55,624
and trying
to overthrow the place...

1402
01:01:55,668 --> 01:01:59,063
We love animals.
We all love animals.

1403
01:01:59,106 --> 01:02:01,674
We love Cecil the lion.

1404
01:02:01,718 --> 01:02:05,199
This is not normal behavior
for someone who

1405
01:02:05,243 --> 01:02:07,549
believes that you should
eat a certain way.

1406
01:02:07,593 --> 01:02:09,247
My question is always,

1407
01:02:09,290 --> 01:02:11,466
why is it so important to them?

1408
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:13,468
Because it feels like
it's an assault to yourself.

1409
01:02:13,512 --> 01:02:15,688
It doesn't just feel like,
"Oh, let me figure out

1410
01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:18,082
this intellectual puzzle.
Well, maybe I'm wrong.

1411
01:02:18,125 --> 01:02:19,736
Maybe this piece of information

1412
01:02:19,779 --> 01:02:21,520
will change something
that I think."

1413
01:02:21,563 --> 01:02:25,742
And that's a normal, healthy
adult perspective on life,

1414
01:02:25,785 --> 01:02:27,526
on, you know,
how we should be in the world,

1415
01:02:27,569 --> 01:02:29,528
is we're reacting
and we're learning

1416
01:02:29,571 --> 01:02:31,791
and we're changing and
we're challenging ourselves.

1417
01:02:31,835 --> 01:02:33,619
But you can't
do that from inside

1418
01:02:33,662 --> 01:02:35,447
a fundamentalist mindset.

1419
01:02:35,490 --> 01:02:37,841
And I think big companies
are taking advantage of this.

1420
01:02:37,884 --> 01:02:40,104
They see these zealots
and they--

1421
01:02:40,147 --> 01:02:42,976
they know that
they can get these people

1422
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:45,022
to hawk their wares for 'em.

1423
01:02:45,065 --> 01:02:47,198
Take Unilever, for example.

1424
01:02:47,241 --> 01:02:51,071
They're aiming right now
for one billion euros

1425
01:02:51,115 --> 01:02:53,813
in sales
on plant-based products.

1426
01:02:53,857 --> 01:02:55,684
And according to them,

1427
01:02:55,728 --> 01:02:58,339
they want plant-based eating
to be the new normal.

1428
01:02:58,383 --> 01:03:01,603
These are their words.
Can you imagine if

1429
01:03:01,647 --> 01:03:04,302
even your church
would do something like that

1430
01:03:04,345 --> 01:03:05,738
or your local government

1431
01:03:05,782 --> 01:03:07,392
or your school system?

1432
01:03:07,435 --> 01:03:09,046
Think about that for a second

1433
01:03:09,089 --> 01:03:10,917
but they're making this
the new normal.

1434
01:03:10,961 --> 01:03:12,745
It's almost like a lullaby.

1435
01:03:12,789 --> 01:03:15,313
They're trying to rock you
to sleep on this whole thing

1436
01:03:15,356 --> 01:03:18,011
and make it
all sound perfectly normal.

1437
01:03:18,055 --> 01:03:20,144
Dude, animals, bro.
Like, why-- I just don't--

1438
01:03:20,187 --> 01:03:22,581
I just don't
understand the point.

1439
01:03:22,624 --> 01:03:24,017
Why would you eat an animal

1440
01:03:24,061 --> 01:03:26,846
when you could
eat some chips, like...

1441
01:03:26,890 --> 01:03:29,631
This is not moving
in the right direction.

1442
01:03:29,675 --> 01:03:31,808
And here's the part
you would never expect.

1443
01:03:31,851 --> 01:03:33,287
A lot of this fake meat

1444
01:03:33,331 --> 01:03:36,116
is being made
by actual meat companies.

1445
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,989
They have to do this
for their own survival.

1446
01:03:39,032 --> 01:03:41,818
Even a company like Tyson,
who we've all heard of,

1447
01:03:41,861 --> 01:03:43,994
is investing in Beyond Meat.

1448
01:03:44,037 --> 01:03:45,865
The largest meat companies
in the world

1449
01:03:45,909 --> 01:03:48,476
have also jumped on
the bandwagon

1450
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,392
and launched their own
plant-based meat products.

1451
01:03:56,571 --> 01:03:58,095
In case you didn't know,

1452
01:03:58,138 --> 01:03:59,618
companies don't have
hearts and souls

1453
01:03:59,661 --> 01:04:01,098
like us mere mortals.

1454
01:04:01,141 --> 01:04:04,101
They live on
and they never, ever

1455
01:04:04,144 --> 01:04:06,016
let a good tragedy
go to waste.

1456
01:04:06,059 --> 01:04:07,887
The pandemic
has radically changed

1457
01:04:07,931 --> 01:04:09,062
the world as we know it.

1458
01:04:09,106 --> 01:04:10,977
With everything falling apart,

1459
01:04:11,021 --> 01:04:13,675
we can reshape the world
in ways we couldn't before.

1460
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:16,287
And that's why so many
are calling for a great reset.

1461
01:04:17,114 --> 01:04:18,506
Remember, we talked earlier

1462
01:04:18,550 --> 01:04:20,682
about the great food
transformation.

1463
01:04:20,726 --> 01:04:23,207
Well, Time magazine had a cover

1464
01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:26,079
that stated "The Great Reset".

1465
01:04:26,123 --> 01:04:28,342
I mean, what is this reset
we're hearing about?

1466
01:04:28,386 --> 01:04:31,128
Where is that coming--
what are we resetting?

1467
01:04:31,171 --> 01:04:33,043
Do we need resetting?

1468
01:04:33,086 --> 01:04:35,088
Whether it's politicians, CEOs,

1469
01:04:35,132 --> 01:04:37,743
academics, activists or you,

1470
01:04:37,786 --> 01:04:39,876
we're all about
getting people together.

1471
01:04:39,919 --> 01:04:42,791
Capitalism
as we know it is dead.

1472
01:04:42,835 --> 01:04:44,445
If we want to change

1473
01:04:44,489 --> 01:04:46,099
where the focus of
our recovery will go,

1474
01:04:46,143 --> 01:04:49,102
then we need a new dashboard
for the new economy.

1475
01:04:49,146 --> 01:04:51,626
We have a window of
time which is closing

1476
01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:54,891
and we need everybody
who cares to get together

1477
01:04:54,934 --> 01:04:57,023
and find solutions now.

1478
01:04:57,067 --> 01:04:58,807
You heard her. Now!

1479
01:04:58,851 --> 01:04:59,939
Or else.

1480
01:05:02,028 --> 01:05:03,987
I don't know a lot about
the Great Reset.

1481
01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:06,946
But I somehow know too much
about the Great Reset.

1482
01:05:06,990 --> 01:05:10,080
The more I read, the more
disturbing it gets. So...

1483
01:05:10,123 --> 01:05:12,952
you can Google it
if you want your week ruined.

1484
01:05:12,996 --> 01:05:14,954
Now is the historical moment,

1485
01:05:14,998 --> 01:05:17,957
the time not only to fight
,

1486
01:05:18,001 --> 01:05:19,828
but to shape the system.

1487
01:05:19,872 --> 01:05:21,918
There's
this German guy named Klaus,

1488
01:05:21,961 --> 01:05:24,050
who started
the World Economic Forum.

1489
01:05:24,094 --> 01:05:25,834
And he says things like....

1490
01:05:25,878 --> 01:05:30,361
We will now start a quite
high number of taskforces

1491
01:05:30,404 --> 01:05:32,972
to look at
all the different issues.

1492
01:05:33,016 --> 01:05:34,756
And a bunch
of other people at

1493
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,715
the World Economic Forum
are saying things like...

1494
01:05:36,758 --> 01:05:38,935
We have a unique
but rapidly shrinking

1495
01:05:38,978 --> 01:05:41,154
window of opportunity
to learn lessons

1496
01:05:41,198 --> 01:05:43,940
and reset ourselves on
a more sustainable path.

1497
01:05:43,983 --> 01:05:46,203
And then they post
things like this...

1498
01:05:56,909 --> 01:05:59,172
And say things like this...

1499
01:05:59,216 --> 01:06:01,479
It is imperative
that we reimagine,

1500
01:06:01,522 --> 01:06:03,524
rebuild, redesign,

1501
01:06:03,568 --> 01:06:06,527
reinvigorate
and rebalance our world.

1502
01:06:06,571 --> 01:06:08,225
Yuck.

1503
01:06:08,268 --> 01:06:11,010
As we said,
these multinational companies

1504
01:06:11,054 --> 01:06:14,231
are coming together
and they're not

1505
01:06:14,274 --> 01:06:17,147
trying to do anything
except make money.

1506
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:18,626
They're not worried about you.

1507
01:06:18,670 --> 01:06:20,411
They don't really care
what you do.

1508
01:06:20,454 --> 01:06:23,892
And we're okay as long as
they're giving us what we want.

1509
01:06:23,936 --> 01:06:25,807
If we don't stand
for something,

1510
01:06:25,851 --> 01:06:27,505
we're gonna fall for nothing.

1511
01:06:27,548 --> 01:06:29,550
And that's going to be
a really big problem.

1512
01:06:30,029 --> 01:06:32,423
Clearly, this is not
just about food.

1513
01:06:32,466 --> 01:06:35,817
If anything, it's about always
thinking that new is better.

1514
01:06:35,861 --> 01:06:37,341
And more importantly,

1515
01:06:37,384 --> 01:06:39,038
it's about
not being able to handle

1516
01:06:39,082 --> 01:06:40,387
the speed of information.

1517
01:06:48,004 --> 01:06:49,962
You know,
you hear a lot going on

1518
01:06:50,006 --> 01:06:52,573
when it comes
to technology, right?

1519
01:06:52,617 --> 01:06:55,402
People are always
talking about A.I.

1520
01:06:55,446 --> 01:06:57,187
Well, think about it.

1521
01:06:57,230 --> 01:06:59,711
A.I. is happening
and you don't even know it.

1522
01:06:59,754 --> 01:07:02,105
The best example I like to give

1523
01:07:02,148 --> 01:07:05,804
is when I ask anyone today
if they know any phone numbers.

1524
01:07:05,847 --> 01:07:07,545
It seems like
the average person

1525
01:07:07,588 --> 01:07:09,895
from my small study of friends

1526
01:07:09,938 --> 01:07:11,549
is that they may know two

1527
01:07:11,592 --> 01:07:13,507
or three different
phone numbers,

1528
01:07:13,551 --> 01:07:15,292
but that's a lot.

1529
01:07:15,335 --> 01:07:16,858
I'm 58 years old.

1530
01:07:16,902 --> 01:07:18,556
When I was 10 or 12 years old,

1531
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:21,994
I probably had 30 or 40
phone numbers in my head.

1532
01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:25,345
Folks, that's A.I.
taking over, right?

1533
01:07:25,389 --> 01:07:27,608
We don't have anything
in our heads

1534
01:07:27,652 --> 01:07:29,349
anymore of any value.

1535
01:07:29,393 --> 01:07:31,917
They tell us what to do.
They tell us what to think.

1536
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,266
-Can it hear me right now?
- This will

1537
01:07:33,310 --> 01:07:35,007
keep moving in that direction.

1538
01:07:35,051 --> 01:07:37,401
You know, we see
all of these sci fi films

1539
01:07:37,444 --> 01:07:40,099
that A.I. is gonna take over
and there's gonna be

1540
01:07:40,143 --> 01:07:42,449
some kind of robot
and computer program

1541
01:07:42,493 --> 01:07:44,147
and it's gonna
all just take over--

1542
01:07:44,190 --> 01:07:47,715
It's us giving it up
to this technology.

1543
01:07:47,759 --> 01:07:50,022
We have all of the stimulation
and all these things

1544
01:07:50,066 --> 01:07:52,459
that make our lives
easier and easier.

1545
01:07:52,503 --> 01:07:55,114
We want everything
instantaneous.

1546
01:07:55,158 --> 01:07:56,594
And because of that,

1547
01:07:56,637 --> 01:07:59,292
we're becoming weaker
and weaker.

1548
01:07:59,336 --> 01:08:04,819
So that allows something like
a reset to slip right in.

1549
01:08:04,863 --> 01:08:07,735
And no one cares.
It just happens.

1550
01:08:07,779 --> 01:08:10,260
It becomes the new normal.

1551
01:08:10,303 --> 01:08:11,870
The world's moving faster.

1552
01:08:11,913 --> 01:08:14,133
It's a digital world
moving at digital pace.

1553
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,049
Uh, and everything
is moving faster:

1554
01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:20,183
ideas, people, goods.

1555
01:08:20,966 --> 01:08:22,533
But not government.

1556
01:08:23,708 --> 01:08:25,884
Government just has to find

1557
01:08:25,927 --> 01:08:28,626
a way to move faster
and to address

1558
01:08:28,669 --> 01:08:31,455
more of the real concerns
of its citizens.

1559
01:08:31,498 --> 01:08:34,849
Or there will be, I think,
an increasing backlash.

1560
01:08:34,893 --> 01:08:38,244
I think what we've won
is a reprieve.

1561
01:08:38,288 --> 01:08:43,815
And I think, therefore,
the notion of a reset

1562
01:08:43,858 --> 01:08:45,904
is more important
than ever before.

1563
01:08:45,947 --> 01:08:47,471
Don't get it wrong.

1564
01:08:47,514 --> 01:08:49,081
This pertains to
the food market too.

1565
01:08:50,778 --> 01:08:52,171
How does it pertain
to the food market?

1566
01:08:52,215 --> 01:08:54,173
The cost of red meat
and other--

1567
01:08:54,217 --> 01:08:56,610
many other unhealthy things
in our diet

1568
01:08:56,654 --> 01:09:00,658
don't really include
the cost of the consequences.

1569
01:09:00,701 --> 01:09:02,442
So all of these levers
need to be used.

1570
01:09:02,486 --> 01:09:04,401
That does mean that
the cost of some foods

1571
01:09:04,444 --> 01:09:06,185
in particular would go up.

1572
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:08,709
EAT Foundation has-- has set up

1573
01:09:08,753 --> 01:09:11,582
and will continue
to expand the mechanism for...

1574
01:09:13,323 --> 01:09:15,847
analytic models for doing this
on a national basis.

1575
01:09:15,890 --> 01:09:17,675
If we don't realize
that this is about

1576
01:09:17,718 --> 01:09:20,678
power and money
and not honest health debate,

1577
01:09:20,721 --> 01:09:22,854
the day will come
when it's too late.

1578
01:09:22,897 --> 01:09:25,857
In the meantime, the youthful
idiots of the movement

1579
01:09:25,900 --> 01:09:27,685
will continue to push this

1580
01:09:27,728 --> 01:09:29,904
and it doesn't matter
if they don't make sense.

1581
01:09:29,948 --> 01:09:31,558
Take this London Real interview

1582
01:09:31,602 --> 01:09:33,865
with our favorite doctor,
Michael Greger,

1583
01:09:33,908 --> 01:09:36,781
and you'll see how allergic
to debate some people are

1584
01:09:36,824 --> 01:09:39,218
when Real asks him
about the carnivore diet.

1585
01:09:39,262 --> 01:09:40,828
What's happening there
with the carnivore diet?

1586
01:09:42,003 --> 01:09:43,744
I just swear at it.

1587
01:09:43,788 --> 01:09:47,008
-That's --

1588
01:09:47,052 --> 01:09:50,055
Look, I'm not advising
anyone to just eat meat.

1589
01:09:50,098 --> 01:09:52,231
But London Real's struggles
in this interview

1590
01:09:52,275 --> 01:09:53,972
can be felt by anyone.

1591
01:09:54,015 --> 01:09:56,714
get scurvy off of,
now that's-- I mean.

1592
01:09:56,757 --> 01:09:58,716
Okay, so you put--
so you put a little

1593
01:09:58,759 --> 01:10:01,588
lime juice in there
and you can still keep rockin'.

1594
01:10:01,632 --> 01:10:03,677
It goes against every--
I mean, you know--

1595
01:10:03,721 --> 01:10:05,636
Right, but some people
are living it--

1596
01:10:05,679 --> 01:10:07,812
Oh, oh my God,
some people are--

1597
01:10:07,855 --> 01:10:09,683
-If your--

1598
01:10:09,727 --> 01:10:11,642
if your-- if your counter is,

1599
01:10:11,685 --> 01:10:13,557
"Well, some people
are doing it,

1600
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,949
-then basically--
-

1601
01:10:14,993 --> 01:10:17,474
Doing it successfully,
though, I think.

1602
01:10:17,517 --> 01:10:19,606
But we have studies.
Let's see--

1603
01:10:19,650 --> 01:10:21,129
Let's see what happens
when you have

1604
01:10:21,173 --> 01:10:22,609
people on a ketogenic diet
for 10 years.

1605
01:10:22,653 --> 01:10:24,524
In reality,
there's no randomized trial

1606
01:10:24,568 --> 01:10:28,006
where we started people off
earlier in adult life

1607
01:10:28,049 --> 01:10:31,096
and randomized some to red meat
and some to a plant-based diet

1608
01:10:31,139 --> 01:10:32,619
and followed them for 30 years.

1609
01:10:32,663 --> 01:10:34,273
That kind of study
will never be done.

1610
01:10:34,317 --> 01:10:37,624
One diet,
only one diet ever proven

1611
01:10:37,668 --> 01:10:39,844
reversed heart disease,
majority of patients.

1612
01:10:39,887 --> 01:10:41,802
That kind of study
will never be done.

1613
01:10:41,846 --> 01:10:44,414
That should be the starting
point as far as I'm concerned.

1614
01:10:44,457 --> 01:10:47,504
So let's agree for
the moment that red meat,

1615
01:10:47,547 --> 01:10:51,508
chicken and any kind of animal
is bad for you.

1616
01:10:51,986 --> 01:10:54,598
And we all decide
that a vegan diet

1617
01:10:54,641 --> 01:10:56,339
is the way to go,

1618
01:10:56,382 --> 01:10:59,298
except for one egg per week.

1619
01:10:59,342 --> 01:11:00,734
Is that okay?

1620
01:11:00,778 --> 01:11:02,693
Even just a single egg a week

1621
01:11:02,736 --> 01:11:06,218
appeared to increase
the odds of diabetes by 76%.

1622
01:11:06,262 --> 01:11:07,785
Oh, fuck.
-You know,

1623
01:11:07,828 --> 01:11:10,004
this isn't an academic debate.

1624
01:11:10,048 --> 01:11:11,876
This isn't
an academic discussion.

1625
01:11:11,919 --> 01:11:13,312
Who's right? Who's wrong?

1626
01:11:13,356 --> 01:11:14,618
It's...

1627
01:11:14,661 --> 01:11:17,011
People are going to listen

1628
01:11:17,055 --> 01:11:19,710
to these
and actually hurt themselves,

1629
01:11:19,753 --> 01:11:22,190
hurt their families.
People are gonna die.

1630
01:11:22,234 --> 01:11:23,757
What's the number one
cause of death?

1631
01:11:23,801 --> 01:11:25,933
Number two cause of death?
Go down the list.

1632
01:11:25,977 --> 01:11:29,676
These are largely
diet-related diseases.

1633
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,417
And to tell people to eat

1634
01:11:31,461 --> 01:11:34,594
these kind of diets that--
that-- that, you know--

1635
01:11:34,638 --> 01:11:36,596
It's not that
it's not based on science.

1636
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,511
The science is the opposite.

1637
01:11:38,555 --> 01:11:41,906
This is not the Dr. Greger diet
versus the Dr. Atkins diet.

1638
01:11:41,949 --> 01:11:43,560
It's the science.

1639
01:11:43,603 --> 01:11:47,781
It's centuries of science
versus the latest fad

1640
01:11:47,825 --> 01:11:49,566
that someone wants
to sell books over.

1641
01:11:49,609 --> 01:11:51,698
I may be speaking
for Dr. Greger here

1642
01:11:51,742 --> 01:11:54,005
but he had a chance
to be in this movie

1643
01:11:54,048 --> 01:11:55,136
and guess what?

1644
01:11:55,180 --> 01:11:56,399
He accepted.

1645
01:11:57,095 --> 01:11:59,793
And then he came back
and said, "No."

1646
01:11:59,837 --> 01:12:01,665
Now,
here's the interesting part.

1647
01:12:01,708 --> 01:12:04,407
When we asked him,
he says he loves to be

1648
01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:06,583
in all sorts of
documentaries....

1649
01:12:06,626 --> 01:12:08,193
Dr. Greger would love

1650
01:12:08,236 --> 01:12:10,413
to participate
in all interviews

1651
01:12:10,456 --> 01:12:12,153
but due to the volume
of requests received,

1652
01:12:12,197 --> 01:12:14,678
we have to factor in
subscribers and reach.

1653
01:12:14,721 --> 01:12:16,375
As a matter of fact,
he wanted to know

1654
01:12:16,419 --> 01:12:18,290
how big my audience was.

1655
01:12:18,334 --> 01:12:20,727
And he had certain
criteria for that.

1656
01:12:20,771 --> 01:12:22,468
"...For example,

1657
01:12:22,512 --> 01:12:24,949
if you have a YouTube channel
or Instagram,

1658
01:12:24,992 --> 01:12:27,778
how many subscribers/followers
do you have?

1659
01:12:27,821 --> 01:12:31,085
If this is a publication?
What is the circulation?

1660
01:12:31,129 --> 01:12:33,827
How many people will this
interview potentially reach?

1661
01:12:33,871 --> 01:12:36,352
Minimum 30,000 required."

1662
01:12:39,398 --> 01:12:41,792
We not only met his criteria,

1663
01:12:41,835 --> 01:12:43,446
we exceeded it.

1664
01:12:43,489 --> 01:12:45,448
And then he came back and said

1665
01:12:45,491 --> 01:12:48,233
he was too busy
to be in this movie.

1666
01:12:48,276 --> 01:12:50,453
"Hi. Thank
you for reaching out again.

1667
01:12:50,496 --> 01:12:52,629
I apologize, but Dr. Greger

1668
01:12:52,672 --> 01:12:54,587
is not available
for an interview

1669
01:12:54,631 --> 01:12:56,850
due to his current
research commitments.

1670
01:12:56,894 --> 01:12:59,200
He is currently working on
his next book.

1671
01:12:59,244 --> 01:13:01,855
Thank you for reaching out
to us. Stay well."

1672
01:13:02,726 --> 01:13:05,642
So, we have to speak for him.

1673
01:13:05,685 --> 01:13:08,732
Yeah, I'm cherry picking
only the science that exists!

1674
01:13:08,775 --> 01:13:10,777
People like Dr. Greger
are the reason

1675
01:13:10,821 --> 01:13:13,345
that we need to stick to
what we know to be correct.

1676
01:13:13,389 --> 01:13:16,130
They are going to oppose meat
no matter what we say.

1677
01:13:16,174 --> 01:13:18,132
-Why do any more research?
-It doesn't matter

1678
01:13:18,176 --> 01:13:19,917
what type of information
you give 'em,

1679
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,485
it doesn't matter which type
of studies you might do.

1680
01:13:22,528 --> 01:13:25,313
They will oppose meat
no matter what,

1681
01:13:25,357 --> 01:13:27,446
The science is here.
The science has been here

1682
01:13:27,490 --> 01:13:29,187
but we cannot wait
until society

1683
01:13:29,230 --> 01:13:30,754
catches up to the science

1684
01:13:30,797 --> 01:13:32,973
because it's a matter
of life and death.

1685
01:13:33,017 --> 01:13:34,497
They don't want
to have a debate.

1686
01:13:34,540 --> 01:13:36,673
This isn't an academic debate.

1687
01:13:37,151 --> 01:13:39,415
I want to have a debate.

1688
01:13:39,458 --> 01:13:41,547
I want you to know
how to get healthy.

1689
01:13:41,591 --> 01:13:43,201
You want to know
how to get healthy?

1690
01:13:43,244 --> 01:13:45,551
Cut out carbs. Cut out sugars.

1691
01:13:45,595 --> 01:13:47,031
Cut out grains.

1692
01:13:47,074 --> 01:13:49,599
Eat more red meat.
Have dairy products.

1693
01:13:49,642 --> 01:13:50,904
Eat real butter.

1694
01:13:50,948 --> 01:13:52,036
You don't want margarine.

1695
01:13:52,079 --> 01:13:53,559
You don't want seed oils.

1696
01:13:53,603 --> 01:13:56,388
You want to eat real fruit
and vegetables.

1697
01:13:56,432 --> 01:13:57,737
And guess what?

1698
01:13:57,781 --> 01:13:59,870
Exercise is
the fountain of youth.

1699
01:13:59,913 --> 01:14:02,350
No one ever brings this
into the picture.

1700
01:14:02,394 --> 01:14:04,004
Some companies talk about it

1701
01:14:04,048 --> 01:14:05,919
but they're trying to sell you
a gym membership.

1702
01:14:05,963 --> 01:14:08,313
You just have to get up
and move every day.

1703
01:14:08,356 --> 01:14:10,881
The reason we have a metabolic
problem in this country,

1704
01:14:10,924 --> 01:14:13,405
the reason people
are fatter than ever

1705
01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:16,452
is because we started eating
processed junk.

1706
01:14:16,495 --> 01:14:17,888
How do they want to fix it?

1707
01:14:17,931 --> 01:14:19,455
With processed junk!

1708
01:14:19,933 --> 01:14:22,240
The problem is,
nothing is sexy

1709
01:14:22,283 --> 01:14:24,242
about telling someone
to eat meat,

1710
01:14:24,285 --> 01:14:26,026
fish and vegetables.

1711
01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:28,551
It's too simple.
So what do they do?

1712
01:14:28,594 --> 01:14:30,030
They tell you you need

1713
01:14:30,074 --> 01:14:31,249
something mixed up
in a blender

1714
01:14:31,292 --> 01:14:33,077
and put this powder in

1715
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,775
and have more of these pills
and have those pills

1716
01:14:35,819 --> 01:14:38,648
and we get sicker and fatter

1717
01:14:38,691 --> 01:14:40,867
as a nation and as a world.

1718
01:14:41,564 --> 01:14:42,913
I just wanna say
one more thing

1719
01:14:42,956 --> 01:14:44,741
about Dr. Michael Greger.

1720
01:14:44,784 --> 01:14:47,395
He's never seen one patient
since his training.

1721
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,615
This isn't
a conspiracy theory, either.

1722
01:14:49,659 --> 01:14:52,009
This is according
to Greger himself,

1723
01:14:52,052 --> 01:14:54,098
by way of Dr. John McDougall.

1724
01:14:54,141 --> 01:14:56,753
It's pretty uncomfortable
to watch, but here it is.

1725
01:14:56,796 --> 01:14:58,668
You could correct me on
my facts here

1726
01:14:58,711 --> 01:15:01,279
but Dr. Greger, and my friend,
by the way--

1727
01:15:01,322 --> 01:15:03,455
Sure, your friend.
-For many years,

1728
01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:05,849
you started out
in general medicine

1729
01:15:05,892 --> 01:15:08,286
but never really have seen
many patients, have you?

1730
01:15:08,329 --> 01:15:10,636
No, it was really just my
postgraduate medical training.

1731
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,073
Yeah, I was never in
clinical medicine

1732
01:15:13,117 --> 01:15:16,468
for longer than that.

1733
01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:18,557
I went directly to, uh...

1734
01:15:18,601 --> 01:15:20,472
Actually, went--
as soon as I got out

1735
01:15:20,516 --> 01:15:22,648
started
traveling around,

1736
01:15:22,692 --> 01:15:24,694
speaking at medical schools,
feeling that,

1737
01:15:24,737 --> 01:15:27,610
you know, "How many people can
I treat in a day, you know?

1738
01:15:27,653 --> 01:15:29,307
Um, and so
it was more important

1739
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:30,874
to train the trainers.

1740
01:15:30,917 --> 01:15:33,920
And so went on the road
and talked to other, uh,

1741
01:15:33,964 --> 01:15:37,794
you know--
you know, uh, budding docs

1742
01:15:37,837 --> 01:15:41,014
in hopes that
they will carry on the torch.

1743
01:15:41,058 --> 01:15:43,930
The whole
plant-based lifestyle is

1744
01:15:43,974 --> 01:15:47,064
also a search for identity.

1745
01:15:47,107 --> 01:15:51,721
Also. It is a way to--
to have--

1746
01:15:51,764 --> 01:15:53,592
uh, to belong somewhere.

1747
01:15:53,636 --> 01:15:55,376
So you're looking
for your fellow--

1748
01:15:55,420 --> 01:15:57,770
your fellow plant-based
brothers and sisters.

1749
01:15:57,814 --> 01:16:00,556
You'll find a community,
you'll find a story.

1750
01:16:00,599 --> 01:16:02,340
There are lots of parallels
between the 19th century

1751
01:16:02,383 --> 01:16:03,515
and what's happening today.

1752
01:16:03,559 --> 01:16:05,125
Um...

1753
01:16:05,169 --> 01:16:08,346
In what way?
-It's a bit of--

1754
01:16:08,389 --> 01:16:12,306
I would say today we are
facing a neopuritan time.

1755
01:16:12,350 --> 01:16:14,613
It's a time of shame.
It's a time of guilt.

1756
01:16:14,657 --> 01:16:17,703
And in a way, if you want to--
to deal with that,

1757
01:16:17,747 --> 01:16:20,053
you can-- you can do that.
You can just buy off your sins

1758
01:16:20,097 --> 01:16:21,577
by buying a burger.

1759
01:16:23,709 --> 01:16:26,451
We all are against
animal cruelty

1760
01:16:26,494 --> 01:16:32,065
but we pay people to mutilate,
torture and slaughter animals.

1761
01:16:32,109 --> 01:16:34,328
And it's not for any necessity.

1762
01:16:34,372 --> 01:16:36,766
It's not because we need
to for our health.

1763
01:16:36,809 --> 01:16:39,333
It's just because we like
the way they taste.

1764
01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,425
There's one thing
we haven't talked about yet

1765
01:16:44,469 --> 01:16:46,079
and that's animal cruelty.

1766
01:16:46,123 --> 01:16:47,603
There's a fact here, folks.

1767
01:16:47,646 --> 01:16:50,431
For us to live
something has to die.

1768
01:16:50,475 --> 01:16:53,260
Most vegans don't believe this.

1769
01:16:53,304 --> 01:16:57,003
They feel that if you eat
a complete vegan diet,

1770
01:16:57,047 --> 01:17:00,006
that no sentient beings
have to die.

1771
01:17:00,050 --> 01:17:01,791
Well, that's just not true.

1772
01:17:01,834 --> 01:17:04,271
I'm John Freeman
from Dumas, Arkansas.

1773
01:17:04,315 --> 01:17:08,319
I'm a farmer.
I grow rice, soybeans, corn

1774
01:17:08,362 --> 01:17:10,930
on a 2,500 acre family farm.

1775
01:17:12,845 --> 01:17:14,934
These modern combines,

1776
01:17:14,978 --> 01:17:16,762
they're GPS-guided

1777
01:17:16,806 --> 01:17:18,938
so you don't have
to turn the steering wheel.

1778
01:17:18,982 --> 01:17:21,332
They're speed regulated
to maximize

1779
01:17:21,375 --> 01:17:23,595
the speed and
the efficiency of the machine.

1780
01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:25,902
And if you don't have
a conscientious driver,

1781
01:17:25,945 --> 01:17:28,992
it's really easy to run
an animal through the machine

1782
01:17:29,035 --> 01:17:30,646
uh, if you're not
paying attention.

1783
01:17:30,689 --> 01:17:32,343
Take a combine, for instance,

1784
01:17:32,386 --> 01:17:34,954
that's out in
a wheat field or corn field

1785
01:17:34,998 --> 01:17:36,956
or what have you,
it's killing a lot.

1786
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,871
And it's not just
killing bugs,

1787
01:17:38,915 --> 01:17:40,917
it's killing
furry little animals.

1788
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,788
Everything from skunks,

1789
01:17:42,832 --> 01:17:46,096
to rabbits,
to field mice, to rats.

1790
01:17:46,139 --> 01:17:48,794
It's a dose of reality
when you sit there

1791
01:17:48,838 --> 01:17:50,666
and as you gather the crop,

1792
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:52,668
now they're flushed
from their safe quarters

1793
01:17:52,711 --> 01:17:56,236
and they have to go out
and find new habitat.

1794
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,412
But a conscientious
driver, you know,

1795
01:17:58,456 --> 01:18:01,067
can-- can, um--
can help 'em out.

1796
01:18:01,111 --> 01:18:04,201
But not all drivers are--
pay attention to that.

1797
01:18:04,244 --> 01:18:07,726
This is all, by the way,
ending up in your food source.

1798
01:18:07,770 --> 01:18:12,122
In rice, for instance, a frog
would be separated the time

1799
01:18:12,165 --> 01:18:13,732
that that rice is milled,

1800
01:18:13,776 --> 01:18:16,996
so as long as
the frog stays whole,

1801
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,130
it will pass through
the separator.

1802
01:18:20,565 --> 01:18:23,655
Uh, if the frog happens
to come apart in pieces,

1803
01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:26,919
it's very well ground up
with the grains of rice.

1804
01:18:26,963 --> 01:18:28,704
You see, vegans are hypocrites.

1805
01:18:28,747 --> 01:18:30,096
Haven't you heard that
small animals

1806
01:18:30,140 --> 01:18:31,968
sometimes die in
the production of crops?

1807
01:18:32,011 --> 01:18:34,710
And therefore you can't even
be 100% vegan?

1808
01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:38,148
No, it's true. Animals like
caterpillars and worms

1809
01:18:38,191 --> 01:18:40,063
do die in
the production of crops.

1810
01:18:40,106 --> 01:18:41,760
And we also can't guarantee

1811
01:18:41,804 --> 01:18:44,154
that small mammals
like mice and rats

1812
01:18:44,197 --> 01:18:46,243
don't sometimes
get killed as well.

1813
01:18:46,286 --> 01:18:48,985
But the difference
is that notion of intention

1814
01:18:49,028 --> 01:18:50,334
and certainty.

1815
01:18:50,377 --> 01:18:51,988
And so think about it this way.

1816
01:18:52,031 --> 01:18:53,554
If you are driving
down the road

1817
01:18:53,598 --> 01:18:56,035
and you accidentally
run over a dog,

1818
01:18:56,079 --> 01:18:58,081
morally, that is not the same

1819
01:18:58,124 --> 01:18:59,778
as if you were driving
down the road,

1820
01:18:59,822 --> 01:19:01,649
saw a dog,
actively pursued them

1821
01:19:01,693 --> 01:19:03,913
until you run them over.

1822
01:19:03,956 --> 01:19:06,654
But the philosophy and ideology
behind the argument

1823
01:19:06,698 --> 01:19:09,266
that it's morally justifiable
to buy animal products

1824
01:19:09,309 --> 01:19:11,921
because sometimes small animals
die in crop production,

1825
01:19:11,964 --> 01:19:14,793
adheres to the idea
that morally speaking,

1826
01:19:14,837 --> 01:19:16,577
accidentally hitting the dog

1827
01:19:16,621 --> 01:19:20,059
is the same as
intentionally hitting the dog.

1828
01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:21,800
Amen.

1829
01:19:21,844 --> 01:19:23,497
But that's not the worst.

1830
01:19:24,194 --> 01:19:26,587
Did you know
that for you to eat plants,

1831
01:19:26,631 --> 01:19:28,459
snipers are involved?

1832
01:19:28,502 --> 01:19:31,418
You know, some of
the thermal hunting we do,

1833
01:19:31,462 --> 01:19:33,377
you could very easily
go out in a night

1834
01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:35,945
and kill
a thousand pounds of pigs.

1835
01:19:35,988 --> 01:19:39,426
Uh, and you know,
it's a shame to say

1836
01:19:39,470 --> 01:19:41,167
but most of that goes to waste

1837
01:19:41,211 --> 01:19:42,908
'cause nobody wants
a knock on the door

1838
01:19:42,952 --> 01:19:44,823
at two in the morning,
"Hey, man, how about--

1839
01:19:44,867 --> 01:19:46,477
how about
a thousand pounds of pigs?"

1840
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,306
So as an invasive species,

1841
01:19:49,349 --> 01:19:51,830
we really don't have
any other alternative.

1842
01:19:51,874 --> 01:19:54,877
Uh, otherwise,
they would literally destroy

1843
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,010
hundreds of thousands
of dollars' worth of crop

1844
01:19:58,054 --> 01:19:59,533
on just one farm.

1845
01:19:59,577 --> 01:20:01,579
These snipers go out
under the cover of night

1846
01:20:01,622 --> 01:20:03,668
and shoot
these defenseless animals

1847
01:20:03,711 --> 01:20:05,148
and just throw them out.

1848
01:20:05,191 --> 01:20:06,627
You don't believe me?

1849
01:20:06,671 --> 01:20:08,847
You don't think
I have video of this?

1850
01:20:08,891 --> 01:20:10,196
Well, guess what?

1851
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:11,502
There's no free lunch.

1852
01:20:11,545 --> 01:20:13,634
Three, two, one.

1853
01:20:27,170 --> 01:20:29,302
-Three, two--
-

1854
01:20:29,346 --> 01:20:31,914
I want to end
the animal Holocaust

1855
01:20:31,957 --> 01:20:33,959
that exists in the world
every single day.

1856
01:20:42,707 --> 01:20:44,927
If you continue
to ignore it,

1857
01:20:44,970 --> 01:20:47,930
you continue to pay
for the slaughter

1858
01:20:47,973 --> 01:20:49,888
of these innocent,
little creatures.

1859
01:20:49,932 --> 01:20:51,803
For the same reason
it's considered cowardly

1860
01:20:51,847 --> 01:20:53,370
for a man to hit a woman,

1861
01:20:53,413 --> 01:20:55,285
it's just as,
if not more cowardly,

1862
01:20:55,328 --> 01:20:57,722
to support the abuse
and murder of animals.

1863
01:20:57,765 --> 01:20:59,028
I always--
I was always like,

1864
01:20:59,071 --> 01:21:00,725
"Oh, they do it
in a nice way,"

1865
01:21:00,768 --> 01:21:02,814
which is ironic because
there's no nice way

1866
01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:04,729
to kill someone
who doesn't want to be killed.

1867
01:21:04,772 --> 01:21:06,687
I'm sorry. I'm, like...

1868
01:21:06,731 --> 01:21:09,516
close to crying because I can't
get the images out of my head.