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We as Canadians
do this thing
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where if we don't
talk about it,
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we don't have to take
ownership of the fact
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that some of the more
negative things have happened.
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A lot of that history
just gets lost.
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That's why it becomes
really important
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to tell those stories.
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If we really wanna look
at where we are now,
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you wanna get
a real understanding
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of the progress
that's been made,
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and the progress
that's still yet to be made.
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Then you have to look
at the journey
that got us here.
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When I first
got introduced to hockey,
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I would have been probably
around the age of...
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three, three-and-a-half
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was when I started skating.
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My dad being from Jamaica,
my mom being from Montserrat,
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um, they wanted us to still
see ourselves as Canadian.
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So everybody had to know
how to skate in our family.
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So when I was
about three years old,
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my dad brought me to the pond
and taught me how to skate.
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And I remember him
teaching me how to skate
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because it was the most
unique thing I'd ever done.
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He had emigrated
from Trinidad and Tobago
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when he was just very young
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and never got the opportunity
to play hockey.
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And when I was born
and came along,
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he introduced me.
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My dad
used to bring me ice skating.
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Public Skates,
downtown Montreal.
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Um, you know, we'd go there.
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We start once a week,
twice a week,
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and then next thing you know,
I just love skating.
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I just love being fast out there
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and, uh,
just fell in love with it.
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I was five years old
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when I first saw
the game of ice hockey,
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and I kept seeing
how fast the game was
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and how physical they were
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and the smell of the ice.
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Once I found it, it clicked,
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and I never wanted
to give it up.
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Some of my first
memories are just walking
around the house in my skates.
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Finally, I was able to go
to some learn-to-skate programs
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and-- and get on to
a couple outdoor rinks.
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And-- and that's really
where I-- I fell in love
with the game.
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A lot of us in the game
are most comfortable
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- on this ice right here.
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It's my truest self.
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And I-- and I can express that
through my game.
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It's an escape.
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Deep down inside, there was
just that burning desire
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to-- to play hockey and to--
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and to be the best
hockey player I could be.
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I played because
I loved the sport
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and, and still do.
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So I started playing, um,
by the norms pretty late.
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Um, just before
turning ten years old.
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Uh, I moved to Canada
at-- at eight.
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There's hockey
everywhere, so...
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I think the-- the culture
and the environment
got me into it.
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I wanted to give it a try
because it was almost like
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I was kind of
getting left behind.
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All my buddies were
going to play hockey
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and I was going home,
you know.
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But as soon as I got
into the game,
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the barriers started
stacking up.
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It was the financial barriers
of how expensive it is.
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I had to buy skates
from a garage sale,
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they were leather skates,
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and this is like,
not that long ago.
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So you can imagine what--
what the looks that I got
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when I was wearing
leather skates,
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and I'm looking to my left
and to my right
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and my equipment
looks different.
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So you kind of become insecure.
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And then you realize
that you're
the only person of color.
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Everywhere I went,
I just felt a little bit off.
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It was either appearance,
the language that I spoke.
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Financially, was really tough
to find a spot to, like,
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really fit in and call home.
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I was just constantly running
into a wall at-- at every turn.
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How's that?
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Fuck.
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You gonna try
and get on the ice?
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I...
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I can't do
a single leg squat, like,
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well, how much am I
gonna do on the ice?
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Like, all my other
12 surgeries,
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I was, like, excited
to get back on the ice.
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I'm, like,
intimidated with this one.
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Contract your knee.
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Man,
I had 13 surgeries
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before I turned 30 years old.
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I don't know
if I'm gonna be able
to walk up the stairs
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in five, six, seven years
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because of what I've given
to the game of hockey.
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How's this one here?
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It's better.
It's getting better.
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I got a cup of tea
at the National
Hockey League level
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and nobody can ever
take that away from me.
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But weighing
the pros and cons now
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of what I've done to my body,
what I've done to myself,
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and I still wasn't able
to have a long career,
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um, or any-- any career
for that matter.
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Then they paint this picture
of you as being somebody
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that's difficult to deal with
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because I won't get along
to get along
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when I know
I'm being mistreated.
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The culture is--
is so ingrained in our minds
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that whatever happens,
we gotta put our head down
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and shut our mouth
and not speak
on any type of issues
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and just do your job
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is-- is what's wrong
with our game.
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Akim Aliu claims
that Flames head coach,
Bill Peters,
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directed racist language
at him.
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For the first time
in NHL history,
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the future of a coach
is on the line
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over a locker room incident.
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A player
Peters coached in the minors
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is accusing him of using
the N-word repeatedly.
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He wasn't behind
the bench for tonight's game
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as the team investigates
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explosive allegations
of racism.
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I think this was simple.
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And the second the young man's
claims were corroborated,
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they should have fired him
on the spot.
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I can tell you this.
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As far as I'm concerned,
there's no tolerance
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for not just coaches,
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but players,
management, anybody
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to conduct themselves
that way.
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When Akim spoke out,
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he was really one of
the first people to do it.
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And I knew
that there was gonna be
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a lot of questions
around the game.
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And I knew
that people were also
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gonna start coming to me.
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That was really terrifying
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because I didn't really
wanna share anything.
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This is a situation
where you might
have done something
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two weeks ago, two years ago,
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two decades ago.
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You might have been
joking around.
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How far back
are people going to go
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and bring something up?
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And is this a precedent
setting move?
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Why do you think
he chose now
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to come out and bring this
to the forefront?
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I don't think he wanted
to get labeled as that guy.
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As a Black hockey player,
we tried so hard to blend in
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and not create new waves.
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There are definitely
painful things
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that have come up
through my career.
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When he stood up,
it was scary,
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but also empowering
in the same breath.
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This is
the biggest story in a while
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because there are repercussions
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that we're gonna be talking
about for quite a long time.
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Having someone
in the position that he was in
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be brave enough
to come forward and say that,
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I think definitely set off,
you know, a spark of people
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coming forward and saying,
"Well, this is what happened."
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I don't think we'd ever seen
anything like that before.
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This is
my silver medal from, uh,
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the World Championship in 2016.
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This here...
This is from minor days.
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I played for the Oshawa
Lady Generals.
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This was my first year
playing competitive hockey.
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I was number three
to start off with, so...
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What year this is...
I would have been ten.
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Yeah, ten.
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I was always the biggest player
on my team here.
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My dad grew up in Scarborough
and he played hockey.
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Um, he really loved the game
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and he wanted to put
his kids in hockey.
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I'm sure my dad will tell you,
he kind of has a process
when he walks into the rink,
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um, in terms of finding
other Black individuals
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or knowing where to stand
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or knowing
what parents to talk to.
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I told them
a little bit about, like,
how you have a process
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- when you walk into the arena.
- Oh.
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- Yeah. My process is,
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I go walk around the arena,
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I look at all the pictures,
and just to see
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if there is any Black history
within the arena.
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And then,
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and I see if there's
any Black faces in the arena.
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And, uh,
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usually, it-- it's not there.
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So, that's how I know
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the, uh,
environment that I'm in,
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and I make sure
I'm comfortable.
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And when I'm comfortable,
I make other people comfortable.
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So that's my goal
of how I deal with it.
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But, um, yeah.
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I just try not to make
those things stress me out.
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Because it's not, it makes me
feel uncomfortable.
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And I wanna make
people feel comfortable.
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Then we're gonna do
that little, uh,
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crossover squat,
the T open squat.
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Feet come together,
internally rotate the hips,
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open back in that 45
and drop into our squat...
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The first
racist instance
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that I vividly remember,
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um, I was around
the age of 12,
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and I was in the dressing room
with my teammates.
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We were all just kind of
joking around, laughing.
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And I stood up to make a joke.
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And one of my teammates
quickly replied,
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"Shut up, you stupid..."
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And proceeded to call me
the N-word.
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Um, and at that point in time,
I was about 12,
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so I didn't really know
what to do.
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Everybody kind of just stopped
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and looked around the room.
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My trainer just looked at me,
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and I just immediately got up
and ran out of the room.
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Yep!
Right. Right. Left.
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After that,
nothing really happened.
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There was no accountability.
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Left. Right.
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That definitely led to me
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kind of questioning
my place in hockey.
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Um, and, you know, whether
these people were my friends
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and whether they really
wanted me there or not.
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I had never realized that
they viewed me differently
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than they viewed themselves.
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In the first few years
after that happened,
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probably until
I was about 15 or 16,
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I definitely tried
to change myself.
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Whether it was
the clothes I was wearing
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or the music
I was listening to,
in order to make friends,
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and for my teammates
to want me at their events
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and want me to sleep over
and, and wanna hang out
with me.
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I felt like I needed
to change myself.
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- You want juice or water?
- I'll take a coconut water.
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- Coconut water? Okay.
- Yep.
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When I started out,
I'll be honest,
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I couldn't barely
even skate.
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As most kids start out,
we can't really skate
that good.
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But as a little kid,
as my dad told me,
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I just kept on getting up
and kept on trying
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to get out there
trying to skate.
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After that, I played one game
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and I just
fell in love with it,
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like, just right in there.
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And I looked at my dad,
I told him,
"I'm gonna be a goalie."
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And I know his reaction was,
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"Oh, no, I gotta pay
all this expensive gear
when he gets older."
253
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But, uh, I think
he's fine with it now.
254
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I like being the goalie.
255
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I like being the guy
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who has to save
the team in a way,
257
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but everyone's one big team.
258
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You know,
we all help each other.
259
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You know, you're not
on an island by yourself.
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You're on an island
distant away from others,
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00:16:42,262 --> 00:16:44,177
but it's still connected
in a way.
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Kind of hit me
a couple years back
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when I got called the N-word
in a Pee-Wee game.
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I was 12.
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Player came in,
I stopped him on a breakaway.
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00:17:00,932 --> 00:17:02,499
He kind of went into me.
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I give him, like,
a goalie push as we call it,
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you know, just to get--
get him off of me,
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and he didn't like that.
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So next face-off,
the puck goes into the corner.
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He kind of skates by and says,
"F you, you nigger."
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And right away, uh,
that shook me.
273
00:17:18,167 --> 00:17:20,822
That threw me way off
and shook me.
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When he told me
what happened
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and I said, "Are you okay?"
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He said, "Dad, it made me feel
I didn't belong."
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And that kind of hit me hard.
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And I said,
"Well, you do belong."
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Back off!
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You do belong
and you belong in the game.
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Oh, yeah.
282
00:17:50,286 --> 00:17:53,985
They were gonna talk
to the coach of the other team.
283
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,639
Well, that was his father.
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So you know what happened.
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Didn't go anywhere.
286
00:18:01,297 --> 00:18:03,952
Was supposed to be like
a suspension for 45 days,
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plus a written apology.
288
00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:10,263
But the father said
there will be
no written apology.
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And that kind of
threw me.
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00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:16,138
What kind of message
are you sending?
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You should have insisted.
292
00:18:17,487 --> 00:18:19,315
But it didn't happen.
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We played that kid
six times the following year.
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00:18:22,797 --> 00:18:24,190
Whoo!
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00:18:25,191 --> 00:18:27,454
Not once
would he shake Mark's hand.
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He would turn away.
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00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:41,032
Scott, how you doing?
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- Good.
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00:18:56,352 --> 00:18:58,049
From the time
I picked up a hockey stick,
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00:18:58,224 --> 00:18:59,747
which was probably
about the age of five,
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00:18:59,921 --> 00:19:02,097
my goal was to play
in the NHL.
302
00:19:04,491 --> 00:19:06,536
You know,
I was told by several people
303
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:08,147
that it would never happen,
304
00:19:08,321 --> 00:19:10,192
but that's where
my mindset was.
305
00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:12,629
And, you know, I wasn't gonna
let anything stop me.
306
00:19:13,891 --> 00:19:14,892
Score any goals tonight?
307
00:19:15,066 --> 00:19:16,503
Yeah, I got a hat trick.
308
00:19:16,677 --> 00:19:18,026
Excellent. Excellent.
309
00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:22,422
What did you like most about
playing in the Air Canada
Centre tonight?
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00:19:22,596 --> 00:19:24,032
Uh, getting my third goal.
311
00:19:25,207 --> 00:19:27,209
To me,
hockey was just something
312
00:19:27,383 --> 00:19:28,645
that I could do
and feel at peace.
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00:19:28,819 --> 00:19:30,125
...my first goal.
314
00:19:30,299 --> 00:19:31,300
You know, be free
and, you know,
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00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:32,997
not think about what is going on
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00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:34,303
in the outside world
and just enjoy myself.
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00:19:34,477 --> 00:19:35,870
It's all I ever wanted to do.
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00:19:36,044 --> 00:19:37,785
It's like my art, my craft.
319
00:19:45,619 --> 00:19:46,881
Even growing up,
320
00:19:47,751 --> 00:19:49,884
people called me, you know,
different racial epithets.
321
00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:52,365
I was fortunate enough
322
00:19:52,539 --> 00:19:54,628
to play with my best friends
at a young age.
323
00:19:54,802 --> 00:19:57,239
I had a core group
of four guys
that always had my back,
324
00:19:57,413 --> 00:19:58,936
but at the same time,
325
00:19:59,110 --> 00:20:00,677
I don't think
they even really understood,
326
00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:01,809
you know, how I felt.
327
00:20:01,983 --> 00:20:02,984
But they always tried.
328
00:20:03,158 --> 00:20:04,464
They always cared,
329
00:20:04,638 --> 00:20:05,334
you know,
and they always asked.
330
00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:09,382
So, yeah,
you feel isolated a lot.
331
00:20:09,556 --> 00:20:11,166
But at the same time,
332
00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:12,994
I was doing
what I loved to do.
333
00:20:13,168 --> 00:20:15,475
So I wasn't gonna let anyone,
you know, tear me down.
334
00:20:34,885 --> 00:20:36,365
I'm a child of the '60s.
335
00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:40,326
So I grew up with, you know,
two channels on TV and, uh,
336
00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,284
Hockey Night in Canada
was every Saturday night.
337
00:20:53,556 --> 00:20:55,210
Saturday nights
when I was watching Dave Keon
338
00:20:55,384 --> 00:20:56,994
and Darryl Sittler,
and the boys playing--
339
00:20:57,168 --> 00:20:59,606
because I was a Toronto
Maple Leafs fan, still am--
340
00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:01,956
um, I wasn't seeing anybody
that looked like me
that was out there on the ice.
341
00:21:02,130 --> 00:21:03,479
Over on the left side
to Monahan,
342
00:21:03,653 --> 00:21:05,176
over the line with Keon
343
00:21:05,351 --> 00:21:06,787
and his pass was blocked
by Seiling...
344
00:21:09,746 --> 00:21:12,271
One afternoon,
I'm driving home,
345
00:21:12,445 --> 00:21:15,056
and I hear these two brothers,
Darril and George Fosty,
346
00:21:15,230 --> 00:21:16,797
talking about the history
of the Colored Hockey League.
347
00:21:16,971 --> 00:21:18,625
And I'm like,
"Colored Hockey League"?
348
00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,888
And so I listened intently.
And then, of course,
349
00:21:21,062 --> 00:21:22,890
like everybody else...
350
00:21:23,064 --> 00:21:25,196
You know, to a large degree,
we started asking questions.
351
00:21:25,371 --> 00:21:27,068
"You know about
the Colored Hockey League?
352
00:21:27,242 --> 00:21:28,504
"When did this happen?
Where would this..." You know?
353
00:21:28,678 --> 00:21:29,766
And that's how
I first connected
354
00:21:29,940 --> 00:21:30,680
with-- with George and Darril.
355
00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:43,606
Darril and myself,
we were trying
to put together a book
356
00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:45,608
on Canadian military history.
357
00:21:45,782 --> 00:21:47,567
And I said we should write
a hockey history and he said,
358
00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:48,872
"Well, how long do you think
it would take us"?
359
00:21:49,046 --> 00:21:50,309
So I said, "Well,
360
00:21:50,483 --> 00:21:51,875
it would take us
probably six months."
361
00:21:52,049 --> 00:21:53,224
Not a hell of a lot history
in hockey, right?
362
00:21:55,009 --> 00:21:58,882
So we started to, uh, research
the history of hockey.
363
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,411
And in the course of that,
we found reference
364
00:22:05,585 --> 00:22:07,326
to a hockey league
out of Nova Scotia.
365
00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:09,197
An all Black Hockey League.
366
00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:10,981
CHL or Colored Hockey League.
367
00:22:14,202 --> 00:22:17,466
What caught our attention was,
we were reading one of
the references to the CHL.
368
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,947
And they said one of
the teams' names was Jubilee.
369
00:22:20,121 --> 00:22:23,080
And it was named, uh, in honor
of Queen Victoria's Jubilee.
370
00:22:23,254 --> 00:22:25,692
And I looked at that
and I thought,
371
00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:27,998
"That-- that's not right.
There's something wrong here."
372
00:22:28,956 --> 00:22:31,306
We saw a reference that
this was a church league.
373
00:22:31,959 --> 00:22:35,397
And we found a Bible
written pre-1900s.
374
00:22:35,571 --> 00:22:37,443
We pulled up
the Book of Habakkuk.
375
00:22:37,617 --> 00:22:40,794
The Book of Habakkuk
was the emancipator storybook.
376
00:22:40,968 --> 00:22:43,753
When the emancipators
went on to the plantations,
377
00:22:44,624 --> 00:22:46,495
they said, "Behold,
ye among the heathen."
378
00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:48,497
They were talking
to the slaves.
379
00:22:48,671 --> 00:22:51,326
"I will work a work
in your day,
which you will not believe."
380
00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,372
That was
the underground railroad.
381
00:22:53,937 --> 00:22:56,026
"We will give you
your jubilee."
382
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,855
And sure enough,
Jubilee meant "emancipation."
383
00:22:59,029 --> 00:23:01,075
Eureka meant "I will see God."
384
00:23:01,249 --> 00:23:03,991
Hammonds Plains team
was named the Moss Backs.
385
00:23:04,165 --> 00:23:06,646
Well, we know that
when slaves fled north,
386
00:23:06,820 --> 00:23:09,388
they used to touch
the back of trees for moss,
387
00:23:09,562 --> 00:23:11,694
because moss grows
on the north side of trees,
388
00:23:11,868 --> 00:23:13,740
the North Star
going to Canada.
389
00:23:14,349 --> 00:23:16,960
We suddenly realized
we were looking
at a coded hockey league.
390
00:23:17,134 --> 00:23:19,789
We said, "Jesus,
we've got a story here."
391
00:23:28,537 --> 00:23:30,539
So we went up to Nova Scotia
392
00:23:30,713 --> 00:23:33,455
to provincial archives,
we went into the communities.
393
00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:35,892
We got talking
and we found out that,
394
00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:38,329
uh, some of these families
were, uh, family names
395
00:23:38,504 --> 00:23:40,114
that we recognized
from our research.
396
00:23:44,727 --> 00:23:46,294
The Fosty brothers
reached out to me
397
00:23:46,468 --> 00:23:48,992
to see if I could remember
398
00:23:49,166 --> 00:23:51,734
the, the teams and how the...
Who the players were.
399
00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:54,911
I told them I had not
heard that before.
400
00:23:55,085 --> 00:23:57,305
I said the only thing I know
about Black people in hockey
401
00:23:57,479 --> 00:24:01,178
is a picture that used to be
on the old mantel piece
at home.
402
00:24:01,352 --> 00:24:03,137
We were kids, and I think
403
00:24:03,703 --> 00:24:06,880
almost all of us
have the same picture
on the living room walls
404
00:24:07,054 --> 00:24:09,665
of a group of guys
with hockey sticks.
405
00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:13,103
And that was the amount
of information we had.
406
00:24:17,325 --> 00:24:19,806
We were shocked
and astonished and, uh,
407
00:24:20,937 --> 00:24:22,417
even the fact that my father
408
00:24:23,113 --> 00:24:25,028
played goalie for the--
409
00:24:25,202 --> 00:24:28,249
for the Halifax hockey team
in the 1930s, '40s.
410
00:24:29,729 --> 00:24:30,730
Quite a surprise.
411
00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:44,352
No,
I'm feeling good today.
412
00:24:51,838 --> 00:24:54,318
Black folks
are largely absented.
413
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:56,843
Right? It's a verb.
It's like an action.
414
00:24:57,017 --> 00:24:59,149
We're absented
from the national narrative.
415
00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:07,593
The image of Canada
relies on this allegorical
Black Canada.
416
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:13,381
Canada as the last stop
on the underground railroad.
417
00:25:16,384 --> 00:25:18,299
Canada as this safe haven,
418
00:25:18,473 --> 00:25:20,910
from the tyranny
of American racism.
419
00:25:21,607 --> 00:25:22,738
And then what, you know?
420
00:25:22,912 --> 00:25:24,523
What happens to those people?
421
00:25:24,697 --> 00:25:26,525
What are their stories?
422
00:25:26,699 --> 00:25:28,483
What do they do,
how do they live?
423
00:25:28,657 --> 00:25:30,050
What is it like?
424
00:25:30,485 --> 00:25:32,356
What is it like
for Black people in Canada?
425
00:25:35,011 --> 00:25:38,754
The stories have not made it
into the mainstream.
426
00:25:42,062 --> 00:25:43,629
You know,
what we teach our children.
427
00:25:46,414 --> 00:25:49,330
And so, we've had
to write ourselves
428
00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:52,725
into the national narrative
of this country.
429
00:25:53,421 --> 00:25:55,205
Pass! Pass!
430
00:25:55,379 --> 00:25:56,816
When we were
researching this history,
431
00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:59,079
um, there was about 13 teams.
432
00:25:59,688 --> 00:26:03,170
Some played one season, uh,
others played for a decade.
433
00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:05,607
One team was
the Amherst Royals,
434
00:26:05,781 --> 00:26:07,478
they played for about
two or three years.
435
00:26:08,479 --> 00:26:10,003
The Moss Backs,
they played one season
436
00:26:10,177 --> 00:26:11,918
that we were able to identify.
437
00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:15,182
The Truro Victorias,
they played
for a decade or more.
438
00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:18,228
The Eurekas played
for at least a decade.
439
00:26:18,402 --> 00:26:20,056
And you had
the Africville Seasides
440
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:21,754
who were founded in 1894,
441
00:26:21,928 --> 00:26:23,364
and played right up
to the 1930s.
442
00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:25,584
Come on,
let's go! Let's go!
443
00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:28,978
Over here, over here, over here!
444
00:27:16,373 --> 00:27:19,681
At one point, there were
52 Black historic communities
across this province.
445
00:27:23,554 --> 00:27:25,818
Today, there's a handful,
maybe, that are still really
446
00:27:25,992 --> 00:27:27,297
active and vibrant.
447
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:33,869
At those times, we were really
on the periphery.
448
00:27:35,262 --> 00:27:37,960
Africville was really
on the outskirts of the city.
449
00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:40,963
Close enough
because we might need you
450
00:27:41,137 --> 00:27:42,225
to still be laborers and work,
451
00:27:42,399 --> 00:27:43,923
or do lays work in our houses.
452
00:27:44,097 --> 00:27:45,185
But far enough
you weren't living with us.
453
00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:08,382
Hockey was a big part
454
00:28:08,556 --> 00:28:11,211
of the way of life
in Africville, right.
455
00:28:11,385 --> 00:28:15,563
And a lot of the men played
on the Africville Seasides.
456
00:28:15,737 --> 00:28:18,697
So, that tradition of hockey
457
00:28:18,871 --> 00:28:22,178
and of us finding a way
to play the game
458
00:28:22,352 --> 00:28:24,006
continued straight through
459
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:25,747
into the '70s.
460
00:28:26,922 --> 00:28:28,532
The whole community,
461
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,187
from the time
you were born practically,
462
00:28:31,361 --> 00:28:34,277
as long as you lived
in the community, you skated.
463
00:28:34,451 --> 00:28:36,192
It was normal.
464
00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:39,021
And when you skated,
there was always a hockey game
465
00:28:39,195 --> 00:28:40,631
that was part of that.
466
00:28:40,806 --> 00:28:42,764
Hockey, it didn't
cost that much.
467
00:28:42,938 --> 00:28:45,375
You give 'em a stick
and a pair of skates.
468
00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:46,986
Every kid played.
469
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,727
When I was growing up,
470
00:28:48,901 --> 00:28:50,990
my life basically
was the Black community.
471
00:28:51,164 --> 00:28:53,862
I don't think
they realized the importance
472
00:28:54,036 --> 00:28:56,473
of what they were doing,
and even what they were doing
473
00:28:56,647 --> 00:28:58,998
when they passed it down
to the next generation because
474
00:29:00,129 --> 00:29:02,566
they didn't just pass down
the skill of hockey
475
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,873
but how you lived your life.
476
00:29:05,047 --> 00:29:07,615
And that's the most
important thing
that I take from it.
477
00:29:08,224 --> 00:29:10,574
Players conducted themselves
with such dignity
478
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,794
because that's the way
they were raised.
479
00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:27,548
How many kids here
are from Nova Scotia?
480
00:29:27,722 --> 00:29:29,768
Put up your hand.
Or family from Nova Scotia?
481
00:29:29,942 --> 00:29:32,640
Anybody know
why we're called Seasides?
482
00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:35,034
Anybody know the history
behind the name? Go ahead.
483
00:29:35,208 --> 00:29:36,862
Black people
that played hockey.
484
00:29:37,036 --> 00:29:38,559
The Black people
that played hockey when?
485
00:29:38,733 --> 00:29:39,778
Um...
486
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,476
- A long time ago.
- Yes.
487
00:29:42,650 --> 00:29:44,608
The Black people
who played a long time ago.
488
00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,567
They-- they couldn't play
with white people
489
00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:49,613
because, well,
I have no clue about that.
490
00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:52,965
That was... Okay.
Okay. Let me try one more.
491
00:29:53,139 --> 00:29:54,488
Why are we called
Seasides? Huh?
492
00:29:54,662 --> 00:29:56,316
There was a team
in Nova Scotia
493
00:29:56,490 --> 00:29:58,187
called the Africville Seasides.
494
00:29:58,361 --> 00:30:00,886
Oh, give him a hand.
Coach got it correct.
495
00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:02,844
Coach, got it correct.
496
00:30:04,541 --> 00:30:05,499
Right?
497
00:30:07,022 --> 00:30:09,285
Guys... [stammers] So just...
498
00:30:10,025 --> 00:30:11,374
Just a little bit
of history, guys.
499
00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:13,942
The very first year,
it was 1895.
500
00:30:14,116 --> 00:30:16,249
Africville Seasides, okay?
501
00:30:16,423 --> 00:30:17,990
That's why we're here.
That's why our name
is called Seasides.
502
00:30:18,164 --> 00:30:19,600
So, guys, that's
a little bit of history.
503
00:30:19,774 --> 00:30:21,297
We'll go into it
in more detail later
504
00:30:21,471 --> 00:30:22,559
when you get
your team uniforms.
505
00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:24,257
Okay. Who are we?
506
00:30:24,431 --> 00:30:25,867
Seasides!
507
00:30:26,041 --> 00:30:27,347
One more time.
Who are we?
508
00:30:27,521 --> 00:30:29,828
Seasides!
509
00:30:30,002 --> 00:30:32,091
Bring it in. Bring it in,
guys, that was beautiful.
Bring it in.
510
00:30:32,265 --> 00:30:34,310
Bring it in.
Bring it in. Bring it in.
511
00:30:34,484 --> 00:30:36,878
You see, for me, I was always
into the Black hockey history.
512
00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:38,662
My family is from Nova Scotia.
513
00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:40,186
I was born here in Toronto.
514
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,058
Growing up in Canada,
we played hockey
515
00:30:43,232 --> 00:30:44,668
from the time
that we could stand up.
516
00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:46,105
We were on skates,
we're Canadian-born.
517
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:47,367
Saturday night
was hockey night.
518
00:30:47,541 --> 00:30:48,934
We'd get around the TV,
519
00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:50,544
we would watch it,
we would play it.
520
00:30:50,718 --> 00:30:52,589
We-- we'd go outside
and play it all day,
521
00:30:52,763 --> 00:30:54,548
until our hands were numb.
522
00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:58,726
They would never convince me
523
00:30:58,900 --> 00:30:59,683
that I couldn't be
part of the game.
524
00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:02,643
It was like, no, man,
we're part of this game.
525
00:31:02,817 --> 00:31:05,211
I'm Canadian, so it's my game.
We could play hockey.
526
00:31:05,385 --> 00:31:07,387
Like, no matter what happened,
I just kept going.
527
00:31:07,561 --> 00:31:09,737
No matter what incident
we went through,
we just kept going.
528
00:31:09,911 --> 00:31:13,088
We just always tried
to send the message
529
00:31:13,262 --> 00:31:15,569
that we are part of this game,
no matter what.
530
00:31:16,613 --> 00:31:19,138
Let's go over there.
I'm gonna show you how to tie
these skates on tight.
531
00:31:19,312 --> 00:31:21,662
Come on. Let's go over here.
Come on. Okay, now watch.
532
00:31:22,663 --> 00:31:23,620
Tight.
533
00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:25,187
- Mm-hmm.
- Tight.
534
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:27,842
Boom.
535
00:31:28,321 --> 00:31:29,452
Now you look
like a hockey player.
536
00:31:29,626 --> 00:31:30,801
Now you're ready to go.
537
00:31:34,544 --> 00:31:36,329
The helmet's hurting
right here, correct?
538
00:31:36,503 --> 00:31:38,331
Right? Right in here, right?
539
00:31:38,505 --> 00:31:40,333
You got to keep working it.
It'll get looser and looser.
540
00:31:40,507 --> 00:31:41,856
Okay? But I need you
to come back out there, man.
541
00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:43,379
- All right?
- Okay.
542
00:31:43,553 --> 00:31:45,033
Don't let your mom
make you miss weeks, man.
543
00:31:45,816 --> 00:31:47,296
Okay? 'Cause I had
to call her twice
544
00:31:47,470 --> 00:31:50,038
to make sure you guys
are here today. Okay?
545
00:31:50,212 --> 00:31:52,432
No more missing weeks, man.
'Cause if you're ready
to start playing games,
546
00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:54,651
we can't miss no weeks. Okay?
547
00:31:57,045 --> 00:31:58,873
I've always tried to tell
the wider hockey community
548
00:31:59,047 --> 00:32:01,310
that they're making this
diversity thing too difficult.
549
00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:05,010
I just went to the areas
in the city to where people
were just neglecting.
550
00:32:06,272 --> 00:32:07,882
One thing that we found
in talking to them
551
00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:09,666
is nobody ever asked them
552
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,538
if they were interested
in playing hockey.
553
00:32:11,712 --> 00:32:13,322
So I-- I just started asking,
and they said,
554
00:32:13,496 --> 00:32:15,107
"Yeah, we're interested.
We're interested."
555
00:32:15,281 --> 00:32:16,847
And that's why
we came up with Seasides.
556
00:32:19,154 --> 00:32:21,461
Right away, that way.
Right away.
557
00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:25,073
We're at 85%
of the children in the program
are subsidized.
558
00:32:25,247 --> 00:32:27,728
'Cause we know that
it's really, really,
really, really expensive.
559
00:32:27,902 --> 00:32:30,209
So whatever it takes,
whatever money that it costs,
560
00:32:30,383 --> 00:32:31,993
whatever equipment
that they need,
561
00:32:32,167 --> 00:32:34,387
we're gonna follow
all of our kids all the way up.
562
00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:42,656
Do I think hockey
is really ready
563
00:32:43,265 --> 00:32:46,225
to welcome a diverse crowd
with open arms?
564
00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:48,618
No. Not 100%.
565
00:32:48,792 --> 00:32:51,970
They're, they're--
Like I said, they're moving
in the right direction,
566
00:32:52,144 --> 00:32:54,450
but they're taking
the long route.
567
00:32:56,583 --> 00:32:58,498
We don't want the kids to get
too comfortable and think
568
00:32:58,672 --> 00:33:00,587
that there's still not racism
in the game.
569
00:33:01,501 --> 00:33:04,634
Hockey's done a really
good job of disguising it.
570
00:33:06,114 --> 00:33:09,465
The NHL has been talking
about diversity since 1993.
571
00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:12,599
They just don't know
what to do with it.
572
00:33:13,513 --> 00:33:14,862
They don't know
what to do with it.
573
00:33:15,036 --> 00:33:16,124
Still, today.
574
00:33:17,908 --> 00:33:20,694
For me,
this beautiful, rich,
575
00:33:21,521 --> 00:33:23,436
and energetic
country of ours
576
00:33:24,306 --> 00:33:27,309
can become a model
of the just society
577
00:33:28,223 --> 00:33:29,703
in which every citizen
578
00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:32,010
will enjoy
his fundamental rights
579
00:33:33,272 --> 00:33:36,579
and peoples of many cultures
will live in harmony.
580
00:33:37,841 --> 00:33:39,191
Talking about
racism in Canada
581
00:33:39,365 --> 00:33:41,541
really pushes at
the-- the boundaries
582
00:33:41,715 --> 00:33:43,586
of the Canadian imagination.
583
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,936
Like, what we-- what we think
is possible in this country,
584
00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:48,635
it goes to the core
of who we think we are.
585
00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:51,203
That's, you know,
that's a hard pill to swallow.
586
00:33:51,377 --> 00:33:52,987
The idea that
racism exists here,
587
00:33:53,161 --> 00:33:55,468
when Canadian multiculturalism,
588
00:33:55,642 --> 00:33:57,383
Canadian-- Canadian tolerance,
589
00:33:57,557 --> 00:33:59,863
Canadian benevolence,
is so built into the--
590
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,082
our core understandings
591
00:34:01,256 --> 00:34:03,476
of who we are as a country.
592
00:34:05,173 --> 00:34:06,827
♪ A tapestry ♪
593
00:34:07,001 --> 00:34:10,352
♪ Of color,
shapes and sounds ♪
594
00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:14,139
♪ We're a people
bound together ♪
595
00:34:14,313 --> 00:34:17,751
♪ By the visions
we have found ♪
596
00:34:18,404 --> 00:34:21,059
Every country needs
a national identity.
597
00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:25,411
For centuries, ours has been
that we are not American.
598
00:34:25,585 --> 00:34:27,848
We are descendants
of the British,
599
00:34:28,022 --> 00:34:29,371
whatever that means.
600
00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:31,069
And America is where--
601
00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:32,940
is where real racism happens.
602
00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:34,942
It really goes
against the core
603
00:34:35,116 --> 00:34:38,206
of who we think we are,
and that is so challenging.
604
00:34:38,380 --> 00:34:39,903
That's such...
605
00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:43,777
Such a momentous thing
to have to overcome.
606
00:34:50,305 --> 00:34:52,525
I was obsessed.
I was in love with hockey.
607
00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:55,441
Uh, first year Pro,
I was in Rockford
608
00:34:55,615 --> 00:34:57,007
with Chicago's farm team.
609
00:34:58,444 --> 00:35:01,316
We were, um, getting ready
for a pregame skate.
610
00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:03,405
Guys were just doing
the regular thing
in the morning,
611
00:35:03,579 --> 00:35:05,277
taping their sticks,
having a coffee, chatting,
612
00:35:05,451 --> 00:35:07,148
just getting ready
for pregame skate.
613
00:35:08,149 --> 00:35:10,978
I had my iPod going.
I'll never forget,
it was a Lil Wayne song.
614
00:35:12,197 --> 00:35:13,937
The doors come flying open,
615
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:16,201
and Bill Peters
comes flying in and...
616
00:35:17,158 --> 00:35:19,639
runs up to the iPod
and rips the aux cord out.
617
00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:21,989
And he goes,
"Whose shit is this?
618
00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:23,164
Whose music is this?"
619
00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:26,515
And I was just like, kinda,
620
00:35:27,299 --> 00:35:29,127
"Like a-- it's me
that's playing it."
621
00:35:29,866 --> 00:35:31,172
And he goes,
622
00:35:31,346 --> 00:35:33,000
"I'm tired
of this nigger shit.
623
00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:34,480
Get your nigger shit
out of here. I don't want it--
624
00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:35,611
I don't wanna hear it
ever again."
625
00:35:37,265 --> 00:35:38,527
And I kind of like...
626
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,835
Like, it makes my--
Like, I'm shaking right now.
627
00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:43,837
Like, I was like...
628
00:35:44,403 --> 00:35:46,013
I'm 20 years old, man, like...
629
00:35:46,709 --> 00:35:48,233
And I was the youngest guy
630
00:35:48,407 --> 00:35:49,843
in that-- in that dressing room.
631
00:35:50,017 --> 00:35:52,411
And I'd lock eyes
with one of the players,
632
00:35:52,585 --> 00:35:53,977
and then they'd like,
look away.
633
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:55,631
Then I'd look this way
634
00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:57,372
and then they'd look--
they'd look away
635
00:35:57,546 --> 00:35:58,634
because they were
so uncomfortable,
636
00:35:58,808 --> 00:35:59,983
they didn't know what to do.
637
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:01,898
And it was just dead silence.
638
00:36:02,072 --> 00:36:04,597
And then I was like,
"Well, what do I do now?"
639
00:36:04,771 --> 00:36:08,296
Like, do I respond to him,
640
00:36:09,471 --> 00:36:12,344
or do I suck it up
because he controls my fate?
641
00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:17,262
I'm this far away from getting
to the National Hockey League,
642
00:36:17,436 --> 00:36:19,046
and he holds all my cards.
643
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:20,569
I've worked my whole life.
644
00:36:20,743 --> 00:36:22,441
Like, I grew up on welfare
645
00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:25,792
to get to an inch from
the National Hockey League.
646
00:36:25,966 --> 00:36:27,576
And this is really tough
for me to say
647
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,361
and eats me up inside, like...
648
00:36:30,057 --> 00:36:31,232
In that position...
649
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,844
Y-yes, the right thing
would have been to--
650
00:36:35,018 --> 00:36:36,237
to call it out as what it is.
651
00:36:36,411 --> 00:36:38,152
But I have to know
652
00:36:38,326 --> 00:36:40,285
what the consequences
to that are gonna be.
653
00:36:41,155 --> 00:36:42,200
And...
654
00:36:43,592 --> 00:36:45,290
it came to fruition because...
655
00:36:45,899 --> 00:36:47,901
even after that incident,
he wanted--
656
00:36:48,075 --> 00:36:49,119
He didn't want me on the team
657
00:36:49,294 --> 00:36:50,860
because he felt that I was
658
00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:53,298
shunning him a little bit,
disrespecting him.
659
00:36:53,472 --> 00:36:55,778
And now,
I'm walking on eggshells
660
00:36:55,952 --> 00:36:57,432
after coach called me
an N-word
661
00:36:57,606 --> 00:36:59,478
and making sure
that he's okay.
662
00:37:00,174 --> 00:37:03,003
And I just, like, that's a lot
to, like, wrap in your mind.
663
00:37:03,177 --> 00:37:05,179
Like, I know
what happened was wrong,
664
00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:06,920
but there's nothing
I can do about it.
665
00:37:07,094 --> 00:37:08,313
And I've got to make sure
that the guy
666
00:37:08,487 --> 00:37:10,532
that did it to me is okay
667
00:37:11,098 --> 00:37:12,360
so I can reach my dream.
668
00:37:24,938 --> 00:37:27,027
I feel like sometimes
I'm going in circles and stuff,
669
00:37:27,201 --> 00:37:29,159
but it's just like,
hard stuff to talk about.
670
00:37:30,944 --> 00:37:32,424
You just gotta
spit it out.
671
00:37:37,733 --> 00:37:41,215
I think it happens
right off the bat.
672
00:37:41,389 --> 00:37:43,086
It's a reality
that you're living.
673
00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:46,786
Racism. And how deeply
it's ingrained in the game.
674
00:37:47,961 --> 00:37:50,790
My mom's Filipino
and my dad's white.
675
00:37:50,964 --> 00:37:53,662
She comes from a huge
blended family.
676
00:37:53,836 --> 00:37:56,883
Black, Asian, First Nations.
677
00:37:57,623 --> 00:38:00,278
Growing up here
you're the butt of every joke.
678
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:02,758
I think the ignorance
of little kids
679
00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:06,458
not knowing exactly like,
what ethnicity I was,
680
00:38:07,067 --> 00:38:09,374
you kind of just get
the book thrown at you.
681
00:38:09,548 --> 00:38:11,724
See what sticks and see what--
see what hurts me.
682
00:38:11,898 --> 00:38:13,203
But I just...
683
00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:15,510
I just knew
all my family, like...
684
00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:17,643
Uh, kind of
everything hurt me.
685
00:38:18,121 --> 00:38:19,384
So you're-- you're constantly
686
00:38:19,558 --> 00:38:20,646
standing up for those people
687
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:22,691
and, and wanting to, you know,
688
00:38:22,865 --> 00:38:25,651
represent them or, you know,
not let anything slide, but...
689
00:38:27,043 --> 00:38:28,741
It's a lot,
it's hard work.
690
00:38:28,915 --> 00:38:31,309
That's exhausting, you know,
constantly doing that,
691
00:38:31,483 --> 00:38:33,615
especially in hockey,
with how frequent it is.
692
00:38:36,705 --> 00:38:38,185
I know there was a time
when I was younger,
693
00:38:38,359 --> 00:38:39,534
like, at a teen tournament.
694
00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:40,709
Um...
695
00:38:42,276 --> 00:38:43,582
Guys would call me the N-word.
696
00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:44,844
I was just...
697
00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:48,978
It's fucked up, like,
why are you saying this? I...
698
00:38:49,501 --> 00:38:50,545
Don't call me it again.
699
00:38:51,503 --> 00:38:53,331
It's done.
700
00:38:53,505 --> 00:38:56,682
They're like, you know,
"you're not Black.
You're Filipino."
701
00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:58,379
Like, why--
"why are you mad about that?"
702
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:00,947
It's-- it's not right.
703
00:39:01,426 --> 00:39:03,341
They're like, "well we'll give
you something to be mad about."
704
00:39:03,515 --> 00:39:05,081
And then they start
calling you like, "chink."
705
00:39:07,301 --> 00:39:08,737
And... it's like,
in that moment,
706
00:39:08,911 --> 00:39:10,391
I just-- I just fought the guy.
707
00:39:11,044 --> 00:39:12,088
I didn't...
708
00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:14,177
It was like,
709
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,354
my first, like, probably
real, real fight, like...
710
00:39:17,616 --> 00:39:19,182
And I didn't win.
711
00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:21,010
I was--
I was playing up.
712
00:39:21,184 --> 00:39:22,360
I was-- I was a rookie
on the team, so...
713
00:39:23,578 --> 00:39:25,754
I got my shots in,
but took a beating
714
00:39:25,928 --> 00:39:27,408
and then went back
to my room and...
715
00:39:28,017 --> 00:39:30,193
like, just crying.
716
00:39:32,805 --> 00:39:34,720
Just wondering, like,
"Why am I even playing?"
717
00:39:34,894 --> 00:39:36,243
Like, "Why am I
playing hockey?"
718
00:39:37,505 --> 00:39:39,159
It's not right...
719
00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:40,595
Little kids shouldn't
have to do that, you know.
720
00:39:40,769 --> 00:39:42,989
I was like, like,
13 years old.
721
00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:46,296
It's just bullshit.
722
00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,256
Growing up,
I was definitely the only,
723
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:51,693
uh, Black player
on every team I played on.
724
00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:54,566
I was a shy, timid kid,
725
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,437
didn't want really
to speak out, ever.
726
00:39:56,611 --> 00:39:58,570
When you start playing hockey
at a young age,
727
00:39:58,744 --> 00:40:00,789
you gotta act a certain way,
you gotta dress a certain way.
728
00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:02,704
You gotta talk a certain way.
729
00:40:02,878 --> 00:40:04,619
You will never cause a scene,
cause trouble,
730
00:40:04,793 --> 00:40:06,404
um, you know, that's just
a hockey mentality.
731
00:40:06,578 --> 00:40:07,709
It's always been like that.
732
00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:09,929
I was probably
nine, ten years old,
733
00:40:10,103 --> 00:40:11,931
we were in a tournament,
some hockey tournament
734
00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,194
in Montreal,
and, um, you know,
735
00:40:14,368 --> 00:40:16,370
we had played
the semifinals that morning.
736
00:40:16,544 --> 00:40:17,850
We had one big game
737
00:40:18,024 --> 00:40:19,678
and then we had
an afternoon finals,
738
00:40:19,852 --> 00:40:21,636
and obviously as a kid,
you know, playing the finals
739
00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:23,246
or whatever tournament,
you know, you're--
740
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:24,552
you're obviously excited,
you're pumped.
741
00:40:24,726 --> 00:40:25,727
I mean, you're-- you're a kid.
742
00:40:25,901 --> 00:40:27,381
You're playing hockey
743
00:40:27,555 --> 00:40:28,426
for the love
of the game, right?
744
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:31,603
Before the game,
for some reason,
745
00:40:31,777 --> 00:40:33,735
there was, uh,
opposing team's parents,
746
00:40:33,909 --> 00:40:35,607
uh, in the hallway.
747
00:40:35,781 --> 00:40:37,347
Two or three of them
were, you know,
748
00:40:37,522 --> 00:40:39,524
making monkey noises
and calling me the N-bomb.
749
00:40:40,176 --> 00:40:41,961
You know, at the time,
I'm just like...
750
00:40:42,135 --> 00:40:43,266
"Who's-- who's
the adult right now?"
751
00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:45,530
Like, who, who, like...
752
00:40:45,704 --> 00:40:47,793
"What is going on?"
Like, "This is not right."
753
00:40:47,967 --> 00:40:50,056
And obviously, as a--
as a ten-year-old kid,
754
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:52,101
like, you don't know
what to say,
you don't know what to do.
755
00:40:53,059 --> 00:40:55,017
My teammates behind me,
you know, are seeing this,
756
00:40:55,191 --> 00:40:56,628
like, they don't know
what to do. They're--
757
00:40:57,367 --> 00:40:58,368
They're in shock as well.
758
00:41:03,243 --> 00:41:06,420
You hear stories
about little kids,
you know, quitting hockey.
759
00:41:06,594 --> 00:41:08,030
But, you know, luckily for me
760
00:41:08,204 --> 00:41:10,119
the love of my game,
you know,
761
00:41:11,164 --> 00:41:12,774
it was just, was so much
deeper than that,
762
00:41:12,948 --> 00:41:15,081
and, um,
I just wanted to shut them up
763
00:41:15,255 --> 00:41:16,865
by telling them, like,
"Hey, like, I'm out here.
764
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:18,606
Yeah, I'm Black.
I'm a hockey player.
765
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:19,999
And I'm gonna show you."
766
00:41:33,578 --> 00:41:35,667
That's one of
the interesting things about
767
00:41:35,841 --> 00:41:37,451
the Colored Hockey League.
768
00:41:37,625 --> 00:41:39,888
The innovation
in terms of the sport.
769
00:41:41,934 --> 00:41:44,066
What made this
unique was,
770
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:48,288
because the league didn't have
an official rule book,
771
00:41:48,854 --> 00:41:51,247
they had adopted
the white rules,
772
00:41:51,421 --> 00:41:54,468
and, uh, had a looseness
773
00:41:54,642 --> 00:41:57,079
in their interpretation
of these rules.
774
00:42:01,736 --> 00:42:03,259
At that time,
775
00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:05,044
players could not lift
their sticks
776
00:42:05,218 --> 00:42:06,219
off the ice.
777
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:14,793
Eddie Martin,
like many other Blacks
at that time,
778
00:42:14,967 --> 00:42:16,664
played baseball
in the summers.
779
00:42:16,838 --> 00:42:20,668
And so during the course
of a game in 1903,
780
00:42:20,842 --> 00:42:25,020
he ended up breaking in
on the goaltender
781
00:42:25,194 --> 00:42:28,937
and decided to raise
that stick waist high
782
00:42:29,111 --> 00:42:30,504
and fire a shot.
783
00:42:30,678 --> 00:42:32,550
The teams and the officials
784
00:42:32,724 --> 00:42:34,900
got into arguing about that,
785
00:42:35,074 --> 00:42:37,467
though, eventually,
it was resolved.
786
00:42:37,642 --> 00:42:40,688
And, uh, Eddie had pioneered
787
00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:43,038
what would become
the slap shot.
788
00:42:43,212 --> 00:42:45,432
Come on,
go, go, go, go.
789
00:42:48,783 --> 00:42:50,611
Come on! Your stick
was way up there.
790
00:42:52,308 --> 00:42:56,095
And it wasn't until
25 years after
791
00:42:56,269 --> 00:42:59,315
when Frank "Bun" Cook
of the New York Rangers,
792
00:42:59,489 --> 00:43:02,754
he introduced it,
as well as Andy Bathgate.
793
00:43:05,060 --> 00:43:07,541
But ultimately,
it was the Golden Jet,
794
00:43:07,715 --> 00:43:11,893
Bobby Hull,
who popularized the slap shot.
795
00:43:12,067 --> 00:43:13,939
Going through
the defense, getting set,
796
00:43:14,113 --> 00:43:16,376
he may pass or shoot,
he drives one, scores!
797
00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:21,860
Back in 1895,
798
00:43:22,034 --> 00:43:25,559
another rule
was that the goalie
had to stand in the net.
799
00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:29,781
But those rules were thrown out
in, uh, Colored Hockey League.
800
00:43:29,955 --> 00:43:32,174
The talk about
some of it being
somewhat unorthodox
801
00:43:32,348 --> 00:43:34,655
compared to the white leagues
for instance,
802
00:43:34,829 --> 00:43:36,788
the goaltender being able
to go down on the ice
to stop a shot,
803
00:43:36,962 --> 00:43:38,659
something that was
unheard of at that time.
804
00:43:38,833 --> 00:43:40,530
But Henry Franklyn,
who was a goaltender
805
00:43:40,705 --> 00:43:41,967
with the Dartmouth team,
806
00:43:42,141 --> 00:43:43,446
you read in the articles
807
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:45,144
how he went down
to block a shot.
808
00:43:49,539 --> 00:43:50,932
That style of goaltending
809
00:43:51,106 --> 00:43:54,109
uh, predated the NHL.
810
00:43:54,283 --> 00:43:57,286
Great save!
Played it on the left wing.
811
00:43:57,460 --> 00:44:00,507
People like Glen Hall,
back in the '50s and '60s,
812
00:44:00,681 --> 00:44:03,205
Tony Esposito
in the '60s and '70s.
813
00:44:03,379 --> 00:44:05,947
...by Tony Esposito.
814
00:44:06,121 --> 00:44:07,645
He faked three men.
815
00:44:08,254 --> 00:44:11,518
Not only was Franklin
innovative in that regard,
816
00:44:11,692 --> 00:44:13,694
he would wander
outside of his net
817
00:44:13,868 --> 00:44:14,956
to play the puck,
818
00:44:15,130 --> 00:44:16,784
and pass it to the forwards.
819
00:44:16,958 --> 00:44:18,786
Uh, he sort of
set the standard,
820
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,095
and it wouldn't be
until the late '50s,
821
00:44:23,269 --> 00:44:25,793
Jacques Plante
copied that style.
822
00:44:26,881 --> 00:44:28,709
New York Rangers
shoot the puck in,
823
00:44:28,883 --> 00:44:31,320
Plante came way out of the net
and he's gonna hold it.
824
00:44:32,017 --> 00:44:34,889
So that style
of goaltending
825
00:44:35,063 --> 00:44:36,935
changed the face of hockey.
826
00:44:39,024 --> 00:44:41,330
Look at the writings
in the Acadian Recorder
827
00:44:41,504 --> 00:44:43,550
and you see it there
written by the reporters
828
00:44:43,724 --> 00:44:48,076
that those innovations began
in the Colored Hockey League.
829
00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:50,949
When you read about
what the reporters were saying
830
00:44:51,123 --> 00:44:53,603
of the style of play,
of the speed of the play,
831
00:44:53,778 --> 00:44:55,780
the innovations that--
that were there,
832
00:44:55,954 --> 00:44:57,520
um, you start
to realize the fact
833
00:44:57,695 --> 00:45:01,089
that this league had gave
a lot to the sport.
834
00:45:01,263 --> 00:45:03,222
And, and, and, you know,
835
00:45:03,396 --> 00:45:05,790
the NHL and hockey
as we know it today
836
00:45:05,964 --> 00:45:07,966
has really never looked back
to claim any of it.
837
00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:14,929
Yeah!
838
00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:29,204
Okay. This is one--
839
00:45:29,378 --> 00:45:31,380
this is one of my little
cubby holes.
840
00:45:32,817 --> 00:45:35,254
And I have some prized
possessions in here.
841
00:45:36,516 --> 00:45:38,039
These are my father's...
842
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:40,825
hockey cards.
843
00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:42,478
Some of the originals.
844
00:45:44,089 --> 00:45:46,091
I can get it open. Here we go.
845
00:45:48,702 --> 00:45:50,312
Yeah, this is...
846
00:45:50,486 --> 00:45:53,968
This is one of
the original hockey cards.
847
00:45:54,664 --> 00:45:57,711
Uh, two of the originals,
the little one.
848
00:45:58,973 --> 00:46:00,018
And, uh...
849
00:46:01,889 --> 00:46:06,589
these are a couple of the others
that have come out since.
850
00:46:12,508 --> 00:46:13,858
My treasures.
851
00:46:16,512 --> 00:46:17,513
Amazing.
852
00:46:17,687 --> 00:46:19,472
To me, this was a gift.
853
00:46:23,955 --> 00:46:28,786
Because I have my father's
real feelings on tape.
854
00:46:36,881 --> 00:46:40,101
Herb Carnegie was
the best Black player
855
00:46:40,275 --> 00:46:42,147
never to play in the NHL.
856
00:46:42,321 --> 00:46:44,236
I think he's the best
Black hockey person
857
00:46:44,410 --> 00:46:46,064
who is not
in the Hall of Fame.
858
00:46:46,847 --> 00:46:50,329
Herb played in various
leagues in Canada.
859
00:46:50,503 --> 00:46:51,809
Played with distinction.
860
00:46:51,983 --> 00:46:53,898
He was a center, a setup man.
861
00:46:54,637 --> 00:46:58,293
Played on a famous
all-Black line called
the Black Aces.
862
00:46:58,467 --> 00:47:00,861
His brother, Ossie Carnegie
and Manny McIntyre
863
00:47:01,035 --> 00:47:02,080
were the linemates.
864
00:47:02,515 --> 00:47:04,604
And they were a prolific line.
865
00:47:08,347 --> 00:47:09,478
You do?
866
00:47:31,152 --> 00:47:33,241
So, uh, anyway,
now I get on the train.
867
00:47:33,415 --> 00:47:35,504
I come to Montreal
and then from Montreal...
868
00:47:37,463 --> 00:47:39,204
I had met
Herbie Carnegie
869
00:47:39,378 --> 00:47:41,597
in Sherbrooke, uh,
with the Quebec Aces.
870
00:47:43,512 --> 00:47:46,428
Herb was by far the better
of the three players.
871
00:47:46,602 --> 00:47:48,039
Should have been
in the National Hockey League,
872
00:47:48,213 --> 00:47:49,736
uh, before me.
873
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:52,957
Um, had all the skills
and the ability to play.
874
00:47:53,131 --> 00:47:56,134
Uh, just unfortunate
circumstances, you know,
875
00:47:56,308 --> 00:47:59,267
kept him from, you know,
from being chosen.
876
00:48:00,921 --> 00:48:04,229
Conn Smythe, the owner
of the Toronto Maple Leafs,
877
00:48:04,403 --> 00:48:06,622
saw him playing
at Maple Leaf Gardens.
878
00:48:06,796 --> 00:48:09,277
And by all accounts,
Conn Smythe was impressed,
879
00:48:10,104 --> 00:48:12,193
but not so impressed
that he wanted to make history
880
00:48:12,367 --> 00:48:14,587
by signing
the first Black player.
881
00:48:14,761 --> 00:48:16,328
Instead, Conn Smythe
882
00:48:16,502 --> 00:48:18,678
was widely quoted
by journalists as saying,
883
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:22,377
"I'd give any man $10,000,
884
00:48:22,551 --> 00:48:24,597
who could turn
Herb Carnegie white."
885
00:48:26,077 --> 00:48:28,296
Now, I got that statement
when I was 18.
886
00:48:31,996 --> 00:48:33,519
How would you feel?
887
00:48:33,693 --> 00:48:34,912
I'd feel awful.
888
00:48:35,956 --> 00:48:37,392
I can't forget it.
889
00:48:38,132 --> 00:48:40,047
Because he cut my knees off.
890
00:48:41,092 --> 00:48:42,658
He broke my legs.
891
00:48:50,666 --> 00:48:51,972
It's horrible.
892
00:48:53,147 --> 00:48:55,541
So I don't want people
to go through that.
893
00:49:03,505 --> 00:49:06,508
My father said
when he was told this,
894
00:49:06,682 --> 00:49:10,208
he decided that he would
just try even harder.
895
00:49:11,731 --> 00:49:14,212
He actually said,
"I played every game
896
00:49:14,386 --> 00:49:17,824
like a scout was watching me
and that they would see me.
897
00:49:17,998 --> 00:49:21,871
They'd actually see me
and recognized my talent."
898
00:49:25,919 --> 00:49:28,791
In 1948,
Herb finally got an offer
899
00:49:28,966 --> 00:49:30,793
to go to the New York Rangers
training camp
900
00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:32,447
in upstate New York.
901
00:49:32,621 --> 00:49:34,058
Have a chance
to make the team.
902
00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:38,976
My father and mother
were on pins and needles.
903
00:49:39,802 --> 00:49:45,460
And it's like, "Oh,
I finally have my chance.
904
00:49:45,634 --> 00:49:47,854
A chance
that I've been waiting for."
905
00:49:48,028 --> 00:49:50,335
And he played well.
906
00:49:50,509 --> 00:49:51,945
And they told him so.
907
00:49:52,772 --> 00:49:55,470
And the offer is half
of what he was earning.
908
00:49:56,515 --> 00:49:58,865
The Rangers' first two offers
to Herb Carnegie
909
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:02,347
were lowball offers.
910
00:50:02,521 --> 00:50:05,437
After another few days
of impressing the Rangers
at training camp,
911
00:50:05,611 --> 00:50:07,352
and impressing
the front office,
912
00:50:07,526 --> 00:50:09,615
they made him
another lowball offer.
913
00:50:09,789 --> 00:50:11,182
So he turned it down.
914
00:50:12,748 --> 00:50:16,883
It's as if they may have found
Herb Carnegie, uppity,
915
00:50:17,057 --> 00:50:19,190
if you wanna use
a racial stereotype.
916
00:50:19,364 --> 00:50:22,454
"You, you didn't take
the offer we-- we gave you.
917
00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:24,586
Who do you think you are?"
918
00:50:27,285 --> 00:50:30,418
And as a result,
the Rangers never made him
another offer.
919
00:50:32,464 --> 00:50:34,857
Herb Carnegie never played
in the NHL.
920
00:50:36,294 --> 00:50:37,991
Which is because,
you know,
921
00:50:38,165 --> 00:50:40,428
because he--
of his color, you know.
922
00:50:40,602 --> 00:50:44,258
They just weren't ready
for a Black hockey player.
923
00:50:54,007 --> 00:50:56,140
My father
was never the person
924
00:50:56,314 --> 00:50:57,489
who put his name forward
925
00:50:58,794 --> 00:51:01,971
to be in the NHL
Hockey Hall of Fame.
926
00:51:03,277 --> 00:51:05,758
There have been many attempts
through the years
927
00:51:05,932 --> 00:51:07,629
where people came to us
and said,
928
00:51:08,413 --> 00:51:10,197
"We believe
he should be in there."
929
00:51:13,331 --> 00:51:15,202
But, of course,
he was never an NHL-er,
930
00:51:15,376 --> 00:51:18,292
so they kind of
threw that out there.
931
00:51:18,466 --> 00:51:20,033
But they do have
other categories,
932
00:51:20,207 --> 00:51:21,382
like builder.
933
00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:24,385
He was someone
whose contributions
934
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:27,084
make the sport
of hockey better.
935
00:51:29,042 --> 00:51:31,000
In his post hockey days,
936
00:51:31,175 --> 00:51:34,047
he started a school,
the famous Aces School.
937
00:51:34,961 --> 00:51:36,745
If it was not
the first such school,
938
00:51:36,919 --> 00:51:39,487
it was one of the first,
and it taught hockey skills
939
00:51:39,661 --> 00:51:43,709
as well as sportsmanship,
handling yourself with class
940
00:51:43,883 --> 00:51:47,800
and dignity and grace,
producing better citizens.
941
00:51:47,974 --> 00:51:50,803
And even that
was not looked upon
942
00:51:50,977 --> 00:51:54,372
as worthy of induction
into the Hall of Fame.
943
00:52:00,508 --> 00:52:02,902
It's a shame
that avid hockey fans
944
00:52:03,076 --> 00:52:04,860
don't know the name
"Herb Carnegie."
945
00:52:05,034 --> 00:52:08,342
It's a shame that his
contributions as a player
946
00:52:08,516 --> 00:52:10,388
has been overlooked
by so many people.
947
00:52:38,416 --> 00:52:39,808
You know
what I feel like right now?
948
00:52:39,982 --> 00:52:41,419
It's like mental. I'm scared.
949
00:52:41,593 --> 00:52:43,377
- To... to drown.
- Yeah, okay.
950
00:52:43,551 --> 00:52:46,032
But you're in water.
Worst case scenario,
you fall over.
951
00:52:57,522 --> 00:52:59,741
Dealing
with all this shit
on the ice and off the ice.
952
00:52:59,915 --> 00:53:01,700
These racial incidents.
953
00:53:01,874 --> 00:53:03,397
I don't even talk about
the mental side of things.
954
00:53:03,571 --> 00:53:05,312
How many
sleepless nights, man?
955
00:53:05,486 --> 00:53:07,532
Sleeping pills just to try
to get to sleep.
956
00:53:07,706 --> 00:53:09,621
I was in a dark hole
for a while.
957
00:53:09,795 --> 00:53:10,926
And that was
an altering point.
958
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:12,580
Not in my hockey career,
my life.
959
00:53:12,754 --> 00:53:14,060
My mindset changed from that.
960
00:53:15,409 --> 00:53:16,454
So how was it?
961
00:53:17,542 --> 00:53:18,543
It hurts, man.
962
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:20,458
But it's okay?
963
00:53:22,242 --> 00:53:24,897
- Yeah, it's just--
it's just weak, and...
- Right.
964
00:53:25,071 --> 00:53:27,552
- ...still getting that
sharp pain, but...
- You've got to get stronger.
965
00:53:27,726 --> 00:53:29,510
You got to start
pushing all day.
966
00:53:33,775 --> 00:53:35,386
That's when
I started feeling
967
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,257
a type of way
about the game of hockey
968
00:53:37,431 --> 00:53:39,433
and the stakeholders
in the game of hockey
969
00:53:39,607 --> 00:53:41,218
and the power brokers
in this game.
970
00:53:47,876 --> 00:53:50,792
The world right now has had
this incredible attack
971
00:53:50,966 --> 00:53:52,707
with social injustice.
972
00:53:52,881 --> 00:53:54,709
And now we're sort of
grappling with, uh...
973
00:53:54,883 --> 00:53:57,756
Yes, but the infrastructure
or the institutions
974
00:53:57,930 --> 00:53:59,192
or everything that was...
975
00:54:00,019 --> 00:54:02,239
What does it mean for that
976
00:54:02,413 --> 00:54:03,892
if we move forward here?
977
00:54:06,025 --> 00:54:07,896
With that comes a lot of fear.
978
00:54:08,070 --> 00:54:09,898
And you're seeing us
kind of move through that, uh,
979
00:54:10,072 --> 00:54:11,683
period of fear uncomfortably.
980
00:54:12,510 --> 00:54:13,772
There are certain things
981
00:54:13,946 --> 00:54:15,426
that are very specific
to hockey
982
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,254
that you just
don't get elsewhere.
983
00:54:17,428 --> 00:54:18,820
And a big part of that
984
00:54:18,994 --> 00:54:20,387
is the insular nature
of the sport.
985
00:54:24,522 --> 00:54:26,611
No one player
is greater than the team.
986
00:54:26,785 --> 00:54:29,266
That's what's been preached
in hockey for so long.
987
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,398
They always say
No one's above the team,
988
00:54:31,572 --> 00:54:33,661
which, I believe in that.
No one is above the team.
989
00:54:33,835 --> 00:54:35,272
You're supposed
to work together.
That's how you win.
990
00:54:35,446 --> 00:54:37,274
That's how a team game
is played.
991
00:54:37,448 --> 00:54:39,319
But at the same time,
I think players are trained
992
00:54:39,493 --> 00:54:41,016
to do what is told of you
993
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:43,280
and not question,
kind of, the system.
994
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:46,674
With hockey,
you have a lot of great values
995
00:54:46,848 --> 00:54:48,502
or a lot of great ideals.
996
00:54:48,676 --> 00:54:50,156
Playing together,
having this one goal,
997
00:54:50,330 --> 00:54:52,332
it's good in itself.
998
00:54:52,506 --> 00:54:55,466
But with hockey, it kind of
takes it to the extreme.
999
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,990
You should listen
to your coach,
1000
00:54:58,164 --> 00:55:00,558
but that doesn't mean
that you don't say
anything ever, right?
1001
00:55:00,732 --> 00:55:02,603
I wanted
to let people know
1002
00:55:02,777 --> 00:55:04,518
what was happening at times.
1003
00:55:04,692 --> 00:55:07,129
But if I wanted
to excel in my career,
1004
00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:09,654
I had to keep my mouth shut
and just move forward.
1005
00:55:11,917 --> 00:55:14,093
You don't wanna draw
that attention to yourself.
1006
00:55:14,267 --> 00:55:17,009
It creates this culture
that's very cyclical,
1007
00:55:17,183 --> 00:55:19,098
and it's very hard
to break that cycle.
1008
00:55:31,284 --> 00:55:32,329
What?
1009
00:55:33,242 --> 00:55:34,505
How's it going, Akim?
1010
00:55:35,201 --> 00:55:37,159
How you doing, buddy?
What's going on?
1011
00:55:37,334 --> 00:55:38,117
- Nothing much.
How about yourself?
- What are you, 17 now?
1012
00:55:38,291 --> 00:55:39,466
No, I'm 16.
1013
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,120
Turning 17 in June.
1014
00:55:41,686 --> 00:55:44,297
Man, you're a, a leader
at, at such a young age.
1015
00:55:44,471 --> 00:55:46,473
I wasn't doing
what you're doing at that age.
1016
00:55:46,647 --> 00:55:48,867
It's, uh... it's inspiring.
1017
00:55:49,041 --> 00:55:50,651
Obviously,
just wanted to check in.
1018
00:55:50,825 --> 00:55:52,479
Um, see how things are going.
1019
00:55:52,653 --> 00:55:54,394
Where you're at
with Hockey PEI,
1020
00:55:54,568 --> 00:55:55,917
and obviously,
I know you reached out
1021
00:55:56,091 --> 00:55:57,354
to Hockey Canada as well.
1022
00:55:58,006 --> 00:56:01,096
Well, the five spectators
from Friday night,
1023
00:56:01,270 --> 00:56:04,099
they have been suspended,
25 games.
1024
00:56:04,273 --> 00:56:07,364
While Saturday night incident
at the hotel,
1025
00:56:07,538 --> 00:56:08,887
it's still
under investigation.
1026
00:56:09,061 --> 00:56:10,541
We haven't heard anything much
1027
00:56:10,715 --> 00:56:13,631
and from what they sent
my dad from emails,
1028
00:56:13,805 --> 00:56:16,329
it's been copy and paste
of the same thing,
1029
00:56:16,503 --> 00:56:18,287
that when we keep checking up.
1030
00:56:18,462 --> 00:56:19,724
They're keep saying
the same thing
1031
00:56:19,898 --> 00:56:21,813
that it's still
under investigation.
1032
00:56:23,815 --> 00:56:26,426
In November of 2021,
1033
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,908
it was a early bird
tournament in PEI.
1034
00:56:30,996 --> 00:56:33,912
There was some--
these five boys,
1035
00:56:34,086 --> 00:56:36,523
sixteen, 17-year-olds,
chirping.
1036
00:56:37,481 --> 00:56:40,222
These spectators were
kind of throwing, you know,
1037
00:56:40,397 --> 00:56:42,877
"You suck, goalie,"
and all this stuff,
1038
00:56:43,051 --> 00:56:44,662
but, like, trying
to get in my head.
1039
00:56:44,836 --> 00:56:46,664
And after I got scored on,
they said, like,
1040
00:56:46,838 --> 00:56:48,622
"You fucking suck, nigger!
1041
00:56:48,796 --> 00:56:50,711
You fucking nigger."
All this.
1042
00:56:50,885 --> 00:56:54,106
But I just had to, like,
stay focused into the game.
1043
00:56:55,934 --> 00:56:58,240
They continued
every time I skated by.
They'd be like,
1044
00:56:58,415 --> 00:57:00,329
"You shouldn't be playing
fucking hockey, you nigger!"
1045
00:57:00,982 --> 00:57:02,767
Mark called
the refs over
1046
00:57:02,941 --> 00:57:04,333
and told them
what was happening.
1047
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:06,727
They didn't wanna deal with it.
1048
00:57:06,901 --> 00:57:08,163
Those boys should have been
removed from the rink.
1049
00:57:08,337 --> 00:57:09,382
But they weren't.
1050
00:57:11,166 --> 00:57:13,299
We hit the hotel later.
1051
00:57:13,473 --> 00:57:16,389
The team that we were
playing against
on Friday night,
1052
00:57:16,563 --> 00:57:19,610
a couple of their players
were on the same floor as us,
1053
00:57:19,784 --> 00:57:21,263
and they were in the hallways.
1054
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:23,265
Some guys called--
some guys called me
1055
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,702
just "fucking nigger."
1056
00:57:24,876 --> 00:57:26,791
And one told me,
"Shut up, nigger!"
1057
00:57:26,965 --> 00:57:29,446
You know? And I came out
with a couple other players.
1058
00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:32,884
They all...
They heard them that night.
1059
00:57:33,058 --> 00:57:35,800
Some guys heard them call me
a monkey and all this.
1060
00:57:36,409 --> 00:57:38,846
Do you feel that
enough is being done?
1061
00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:40,979
Or do you think that
there could be more that--
that could be done?
1062
00:57:41,153 --> 00:57:43,590
Well, at first Hockey PEI,
1063
00:57:43,764 --> 00:57:45,766
they didn't have
the resources for this.
1064
00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:47,420
And they admitted it
1065
00:57:47,594 --> 00:57:49,248
and they had to get help
from Hockey Canada.
1066
00:57:49,422 --> 00:57:50,423
But...
1067
00:57:50,597 --> 00:57:52,599
Overall, it's just...
1068
00:57:54,296 --> 00:57:57,038
It's just a little difficult
to deal with them.
1069
00:57:57,212 --> 00:58:00,999
Why they took this long
to handle anything
1070
00:58:01,173 --> 00:58:03,784
4to give those players
the disciplinary action,
1071
00:58:03,958 --> 00:58:06,134
and how long
this second incident's
1072
00:58:06,308 --> 00:58:08,006
taking to be investigated?
1073
00:58:10,138 --> 00:58:13,141
After that, you said,
"Dad, I just wanna go home.
1074
00:58:13,838 --> 00:58:16,057
I've never been called
so many racial slurs
1075
00:58:16,231 --> 00:58:17,798
until I came here to play.
1076
00:58:17,972 --> 00:58:19,670
And I did nothing
to these kids.
1077
00:58:19,844 --> 00:58:21,759
All I did was play hockey."
1078
00:58:21,933 --> 00:58:24,065
Let's say Mark was playing
the game, got in a fight.
1079
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:27,068
Next day,
he's gone for five games.
1080
00:58:27,242 --> 00:58:29,027
No doubt. He's gone.
1081
00:58:29,723 --> 00:58:31,116
But you do a racial incident,
1082
00:58:32,421 --> 00:58:34,206
we're almost five months
with Hockey PEI
1083
00:58:34,380 --> 00:58:35,816
on the second incident.
1084
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:37,688
And, you know, the second,
the third...
1085
00:58:37,862 --> 00:58:39,167
First one took three months.
1086
00:58:39,994 --> 00:58:41,474
We should have answers.
1087
00:58:42,736 --> 00:58:45,217
A few parents,
the Black father and...
1088
00:58:45,391 --> 00:58:47,436
They said,
"Wayne, I'm glad it was you.
1089
00:58:47,611 --> 00:58:49,569
That pushed this forward."
He said, "If it was me,
1090
00:58:49,743 --> 00:58:51,353
"it would have been
brushed aside."
1091
00:58:52,485 --> 00:58:54,095
And that shouldn't be.
1092
00:58:57,969 --> 00:59:00,580
There's no rules
set in place for how to deal
with this stuff.
1093
00:59:00,754 --> 00:59:03,104
It seems that hockey
is so far behind
1094
00:59:03,278 --> 00:59:06,760
and when these occurrences
happen of racism,
1095
00:59:06,934 --> 00:59:08,196
they don't really know
what to do.
1096
00:59:09,241 --> 00:59:10,808
Um, I know it's a--
1097
00:59:10,982 --> 00:59:12,723
It's a really tough space
to be in,
1098
00:59:12,897 --> 00:59:14,333
- um, so honestly...
- I know.
1099
00:59:14,507 --> 00:59:15,900
...we appreciate you.
1100
00:59:16,074 --> 00:59:18,467
I... We appreciate
your family.
1101
00:59:18,642 --> 00:59:20,339
I don't even think you realize
how many kids
you're gonna help.
1102
00:59:20,513 --> 00:59:22,254
And, honestly, everybody
that's of color in hockey
1103
00:59:22,428 --> 00:59:25,083
that's trying to just feel
welcome in the game.
1104
00:59:25,257 --> 00:59:26,650
And, and it's a huge
thank you to you.
1105
00:59:26,824 --> 00:59:27,912
So I appreciate you, boss.
1106
00:59:28,565 --> 00:59:30,131
I appreciate the call.
1107
00:59:30,305 --> 00:59:31,872
Of course, okay.
See you, Mark.
1108
00:59:32,046 --> 00:59:33,526
See ya.
1109
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:35,528
Say hi
to your dad for me.
1110
00:59:35,702 --> 00:59:36,224
- Oh, no problem. See ya.
- All right. Take it easy.
1111
00:59:40,054 --> 00:59:43,101
Spook! Spook! Spook!
1112
00:59:43,841 --> 00:59:47,018
The chant
of "Spook! Spook!"
1113
00:59:47,192 --> 00:59:48,672
Just one epithet
1114
00:59:48,846 --> 00:59:51,326
from a poisonous garden
of racial slurs
1115
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:53,154
flung at Val James
1116
00:59:53,328 --> 00:59:55,940
when he plays hockey
in Salem, Virginia.
1117
00:59:56,114 --> 00:59:57,898
We frequently talk
about exclusion, right?
1118
00:59:58,072 --> 01:00:00,161
Being locked out
of the halls of power,
1119
01:00:00,335 --> 01:00:03,948
being locked out of the rooms
where decisions are happening
1120
01:00:04,122 --> 01:00:05,384
and that, that is true.
1121
01:00:05,558 --> 01:00:07,473
That is one function
of racism.
1122
01:00:07,647 --> 01:00:10,694
But racism
can also be a function
1123
01:00:10,868 --> 01:00:13,566
of predatory inclusion, right?
1124
01:00:13,740 --> 01:00:15,481
We are included in ways
1125
01:00:15,655 --> 01:00:18,223
that end up
being quite harmful to us.
1126
01:00:18,397 --> 01:00:19,877
And we never think about
1127
01:00:20,051 --> 01:00:22,009
what happens
to people of color,
1128
01:00:22,183 --> 01:00:24,621
what happens to Black people
after they are integrated
1129
01:00:24,795 --> 01:00:27,232
into these predominantly
white spaces.
1130
01:00:28,102 --> 01:00:29,626
These predominantly
white spaces,
1131
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,150
which never wanted us.
1132
01:00:32,324 --> 01:00:35,806
Hey, price
for fighting a nigger!
1133
01:00:36,502 --> 01:00:40,288
What is that like,
to be the only Black player
on a hockey rink?
1134
01:00:41,115 --> 01:00:42,943
I bet it's awful.
1135
01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:51,865
Throughout my career,
I've always felt as though
1136
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:55,782
I've had to let go of a piece
of my Blackness to fit in.
1137
01:01:00,526 --> 01:01:02,615
My time at Yale
was very difficult
1138
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:06,184
just because I definitely
expected my team
to be more woke
1139
01:01:06,358 --> 01:01:08,273
and, you know,
more educated in that sense.
1140
01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:13,844
Being able to be my 100%
authentic self involved them,
1141
01:01:14,018 --> 01:01:16,411
you know, not necessarily
being able to relate to me.
1142
01:01:16,585 --> 01:01:18,239
And by my second year
of college,
1143
01:01:18,413 --> 01:01:19,937
I was done code-switching.
1144
01:01:20,111 --> 01:01:22,026
I was done setting aside
my Blackness.
1145
01:01:23,854 --> 01:01:25,682
I'm a very driven individual,
1146
01:01:25,856 --> 01:01:27,292
and I don't like
quitting things,
1147
01:01:27,466 --> 01:01:29,468
so I really just
wanted to continue.
1148
01:01:29,642 --> 01:01:31,775
But at the same time,
I quite often played
1149
01:01:31,949 --> 01:01:33,907
with hate in my heart
and I played angry.
1150
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,652
And I probably played angry
up until this past year.
1151
01:01:59,803 --> 01:02:02,109
I never played
with another Black player
1152
01:02:02,283 --> 01:02:03,981
up until my senior year
at Yale.
1153
01:02:04,459 --> 01:02:08,333
And I realized the importance
of me having a friend
1154
01:02:08,507 --> 01:02:10,944
and having somebody to look to
in the dressing room.
1155
01:02:11,118 --> 01:02:14,295
With the Toronto Six signing
Angela James and Mark Joslin
1156
01:02:14,469 --> 01:02:17,908
to be our coaches, for myself,
I was just overjoyed.
1157
01:02:18,952 --> 01:02:21,607
♪ Oh, Canada ♪
1158
01:02:21,781 --> 01:02:26,220
♪ We stand on guard ♪
1159
01:02:26,394 --> 01:02:30,964
♪ For thee ♪
1160
01:02:37,666 --> 01:02:40,060
I got the call
that Angela was gonna
be coaching me.
1161
01:02:40,234 --> 01:02:41,670
I definitely bawled
my eyes out.
1162
01:02:41,845 --> 01:02:42,802
A breakaway for James.
1163
01:02:45,022 --> 01:02:47,024
For myself, that was
really the only person
1164
01:02:47,198 --> 01:02:48,895
that I had to look up to
1165
01:02:49,069 --> 01:02:50,941
when I was growing up
in the hockey community.
1166
01:02:51,115 --> 01:02:52,594
There wasn't any other
Black women for me to look to.
1167
01:02:52,769 --> 01:02:54,988
The MVP,
Angela James.
1168
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,387
Playing
professionally now,
I-- I don't think I play
1169
01:03:02,561 --> 01:03:03,823
with as much hate in my heart,
1170
01:03:03,997 --> 01:03:05,477
um, but at the same time,
1171
01:03:05,651 --> 01:03:06,870
I'm still aware
of all of the things
1172
01:03:07,044 --> 01:03:08,480
that have happened
in the past.
1173
01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:22,755
The league itself,
when it first started,
1174
01:03:22,929 --> 01:03:25,976
we're talking about
the turn of the century,
1175
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:28,717
into the early 20th century.
1176
01:03:29,631 --> 01:03:31,242
So you've got
great leadership, right?
1177
01:03:31,416 --> 01:03:33,026
You've got people like
James Kinney,
1178
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,375
James Robinson Johnston.
1179
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:36,073
They're getting into politics,
1180
01:03:36,247 --> 01:03:38,423
they're becoming
a force in elections.
1181
01:03:38,597 --> 01:03:40,294
They're building up
the social structure
1182
01:03:40,468 --> 01:03:42,166
of Black communities.
1183
01:03:42,340 --> 01:03:44,298
Come on, let's go! Let's go!
1184
01:03:44,472 --> 01:03:48,346
The league was seen
as part of a social movement
1185
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,914
which should help
develop pride
1186
01:03:51,088 --> 01:03:56,093
but also raising
the social mobility of Blacks.
1187
01:03:57,398 --> 01:03:59,618
You've got people
coming to the games.
1188
01:03:59,792 --> 01:04:02,012
Black empowerment,
taking shape
through ticket sales.
1189
01:04:02,621 --> 01:04:06,407
You've got to
remember, work for Black men
in particular
1190
01:04:06,581 --> 01:04:08,061
was very scarce.
1191
01:04:08,235 --> 01:04:10,585
So the revenue
that was generated
1192
01:04:10,759 --> 01:04:13,197
from the Hockey League
was very, very important
1193
01:04:13,371 --> 01:04:15,808
to, to the whole community,
1194
01:04:15,982 --> 01:04:17,941
not just the league itself.
1195
01:04:18,115 --> 01:04:20,378
I think my aunt told me my...
1196
01:04:20,552 --> 01:04:23,990
Her father, my grandfather,
got 50 cents a month,
1197
01:04:24,164 --> 01:04:26,645
and it was big money.
1198
01:04:27,994 --> 01:04:29,866
The white teams
1199
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,303
who played hockey
here in Halifax
1200
01:04:32,477 --> 01:04:35,001
wanted a part of that revenue,
that money.
1201
01:04:35,175 --> 01:04:38,178
So they would organize
exhibition games
1202
01:04:38,352 --> 01:04:39,832
against the Colored
Hockey League
1203
01:04:40,006 --> 01:04:41,660
to get a share in the gate.
1204
01:04:43,488 --> 01:04:45,403
They could bring
a crowd out.
1205
01:04:45,577 --> 01:04:47,100
I remember reading
about one game
that happened in Sydney,
1206
01:04:47,274 --> 01:04:49,233
where they had 250 people
come out to watch.
1207
01:04:49,886 --> 01:04:52,279
Some amazing stuff to read
about being able
to break the color barrier.
1208
01:04:52,453 --> 01:04:55,456
Playing games
against white teams,
which would've been unheard of.
1209
01:04:55,630 --> 01:04:58,633
They were living second-class
citizenship in this country,
1210
01:04:58,807 --> 01:05:03,116
uh, and yet they were playing
Canada's pastime back in 1895.
1211
01:05:03,290 --> 01:05:05,727
You know? Wow.
The-- the amazingness
1212
01:05:05,902 --> 01:05:07,947
that surrounds all of that
when you think about it.
1213
01:05:16,216 --> 01:05:17,652
But when you look
at some of the things
1214
01:05:17,826 --> 01:05:19,306
that-- that were
in the Sydney paper
1215
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,047
when the teams went down
and played in Sydney,
1216
01:05:21,221 --> 01:05:22,831
it had really nothing
to do about the game.
1217
01:05:23,006 --> 01:05:24,572
It had more to do with
trying to make spectacles
1218
01:05:24,746 --> 01:05:26,270
of the Black players
that were playing.
1219
01:05:27,358 --> 01:05:29,838
Those were just
racist, cartoonish,
1220
01:05:30,013 --> 01:05:32,406
derogatory depictions
of Black people.
1221
01:05:32,580 --> 01:05:35,061
That was our systemically
racist society
1222
01:05:35,235 --> 01:05:37,150
that always tried
to make us more buffoonish.
1223
01:05:37,324 --> 01:05:39,326
Or tried to make us
less than serious,
1224
01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:42,373
instead of in reality,
looking at the sportsmanship
1225
01:05:42,547 --> 01:05:44,201
that was out there
and talking about
1226
01:05:44,375 --> 01:05:45,680
how these players
were playing.
1227
01:05:48,770 --> 01:05:50,555
Were there white leagues
that saw the--
1228
01:05:50,729 --> 01:05:51,425
the Colored Hockey League
as a threat to them?
1229
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:53,210
Possibly.
1230
01:05:53,384 --> 01:05:54,994
Uh, what's the best way
to dismantle that,
1231
01:05:55,168 --> 01:05:57,083
is to, you know, to put out
1232
01:05:57,257 --> 01:05:58,693
something that says
they're not as good
1233
01:05:58,867 --> 01:06:00,565
and they're just making
fools of the games.
1234
01:06:00,739 --> 01:06:03,176
And so therefore,
you diminish people's interest
1235
01:06:03,350 --> 01:06:04,656
in going to watch them,
1236
01:06:04,830 --> 01:06:06,440
uh, and going to pay
to see them
1237
01:06:06,614 --> 01:06:09,052
or, or talking positively
about it.
1238
01:06:13,404 --> 01:06:14,883
We now acknowledge
1239
01:06:15,058 --> 01:06:16,537
that race is
a social construct.
1240
01:06:16,711 --> 01:06:20,454
In the 18th, 19th,
early 20th century,
1241
01:06:20,628 --> 01:06:23,022
we talk about race as being
a biological construct.
1242
01:06:23,196 --> 01:06:24,893
People really believed
1243
01:06:25,068 --> 01:06:27,896
that there were
differences in biology
1244
01:06:28,071 --> 01:06:30,812
that distinguished races
from one another.
1245
01:06:30,987 --> 01:06:34,599
So your race determined
your temperament,
1246
01:06:34,773 --> 01:06:38,777
your morality,
your behavior, your potential.
1247
01:06:45,523 --> 01:06:47,046
When I was
12 years old,
1248
01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:48,787
I said, "Mom, I wanna be
the first Black woman
1249
01:06:48,961 --> 01:06:51,442
to play in the Olympics
for team USA."
1250
01:06:54,184 --> 01:06:55,707
2013 rolls around,
1251
01:06:55,881 --> 01:06:57,796
I'm graduating
from Boston College,
1252
01:06:57,970 --> 01:06:59,232
I'm in my prime.
1253
01:06:59,928 --> 01:07:01,887
- It's a score!
1254
01:07:02,061 --> 01:07:04,107
Tapped in by Bolden.
1255
01:07:04,281 --> 01:07:06,805
I won two U18
World Championships,
1256
01:07:06,979 --> 01:07:09,938
I'm in this pool of 40 to 60
1257
01:07:10,113 --> 01:07:11,940
of the best players
in the world
1258
01:07:12,115 --> 01:07:13,942
that are trying out
for the national team.
1259
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:16,554
Obviously,
I'm the only person of color.
1260
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,563
The idea
that Black people
1261
01:07:25,737 --> 01:07:28,522
are naturally physical,
naturally gifted
1262
01:07:28,696 --> 01:07:30,307
and suited for manual labor,
1263
01:07:30,481 --> 01:07:33,571
as opposed to leadership
or intellectual pursuits,
1264
01:07:33,745 --> 01:07:36,617
is a longstanding stereotype.
1265
01:07:36,791 --> 01:07:41,622
It ties directly back to that
legacy of racial hierarchy
1266
01:07:41,796 --> 01:07:44,321
connected to
transatlantic slavery.
1267
01:07:44,495 --> 01:07:46,801
And the idea that white people
1268
01:07:46,975 --> 01:07:51,110
were superior in every way,
was common at that time.
1269
01:07:52,416 --> 01:07:55,549
I would constantly go
into these training camps
1270
01:07:55,723 --> 01:07:58,204
and feel like
I wasn't being seen.
1271
01:07:58,378 --> 01:08:00,946
Feel like there was just
this barrier
1272
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,688
of misunderstanding
and perception.
1273
01:08:05,820 --> 01:08:07,735
That idea needs
to be passed down
1274
01:08:07,909 --> 01:08:11,130
from generation to generation
for it to occur today.
1275
01:08:11,826 --> 01:08:13,959
And then when
we bring sport into it,
1276
01:08:14,786 --> 01:08:17,919
that kind of binary thinking
leads to Black people
1277
01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:19,704
being assumed
to not be coachable
1278
01:08:19,878 --> 01:08:22,010
and not be
leadership potential.
1279
01:08:23,490 --> 01:08:25,101
I was told that...
1280
01:08:26,363 --> 01:08:28,669
I was perceived
to be uncoachable.
1281
01:08:29,714 --> 01:08:32,978
And that was like,
a gut punch to me.
1282
01:08:33,152 --> 01:08:34,284
What do you mean? I'm, I'm...
1283
01:08:34,458 --> 01:08:36,851
I'm not a disrespectful person.
1284
01:08:37,025 --> 01:08:39,463
I shake my head,
I give good eye contact.
1285
01:08:39,637 --> 01:08:41,334
I show up, I do the work.
1286
01:08:41,508 --> 01:08:43,641
I was shocked
when that was told to me.
1287
01:08:45,643 --> 01:08:49,560
I don't know if it was
because of this.
1288
01:08:49,734 --> 01:08:51,518
I don't know
what it was because of.
1289
01:08:51,692 --> 01:08:56,001
But I can only think
about things like that
1290
01:08:56,175 --> 01:08:58,221
based off of my experience.
1291
01:08:58,395 --> 01:09:00,353
And it was--
it was tragic for me.
1292
01:09:00,527 --> 01:09:02,703
It was heartbreaking.
I lost myself.
1293
01:09:02,877 --> 01:09:04,052
For years.
1294
01:09:05,228 --> 01:09:07,273
In hockey,
there are certain adjectives
1295
01:09:07,447 --> 01:09:10,581
like "heady" or "smart"
1296
01:09:10,755 --> 01:09:14,062
that are not applied
to Black players.
1297
01:09:15,716 --> 01:09:17,414
The result
of that 20 or 30 years ago
1298
01:09:17,588 --> 01:09:19,851
was that Black men in the NHL
1299
01:09:20,025 --> 01:09:22,593
were pretty much relegated
to being enforcers.
1300
01:09:22,767 --> 01:09:24,856
George Laraque,
Donald Brashear...
1301
01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:33,691
He's just too strong.
1302
01:09:33,865 --> 01:09:36,607
This guy is a tower,
I'll tell you...
1303
01:09:36,781 --> 01:09:39,871
This assumption
that you don't think
as well as people
1304
01:09:40,045 --> 01:09:41,699
from other groups,
1305
01:09:41,873 --> 01:09:44,832
it's all based on stereotypes,
not reality.
1306
01:09:45,746 --> 01:09:47,357
Unconscious bias.
1307
01:09:47,531 --> 01:09:49,402
I've been dealing with that
my whole career.
1308
01:09:49,576 --> 01:09:51,012
I've had coaches say,
"Oh, your hockey IQ
1309
01:09:51,187 --> 01:09:52,449
is actually pretty good,"
1310
01:09:52,623 --> 01:09:53,972
and, "Oh", like,
"You're actually...
1311
01:09:54,146 --> 01:09:55,147
Oh, you're actually articulate."
1312
01:09:57,018 --> 01:09:58,281
Looking back,
they're just like...
1313
01:09:59,064 --> 01:10:00,892
It's just cra...
1314
01:10:01,066 --> 01:10:02,459
Things that are crazy
that no one should have
1315
01:10:02,633 --> 01:10:03,851
to really deal with,
to be honest.
1316
01:10:12,556 --> 01:10:15,950
In my experience,
and I've been raising
Black kids for 30 years,
1317
01:10:16,124 --> 01:10:18,605
they could think the game
just like anybody else.
1318
01:10:18,779 --> 01:10:21,434
Guys, everybody got a puck?
Everybody got a puck?
1319
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:25,960
Stand still. Okay.
Let's start moving.
1320
01:10:26,134 --> 01:10:27,571
Keep it on your stick.
1321
01:10:30,095 --> 01:10:32,315
What happens is,
is because
those teams are coached,
1322
01:10:32,489 --> 01:10:35,143
by hockey dads
and volunteers and friends,
1323
01:10:35,318 --> 01:10:36,362
they take the Black kids,
and say,
1324
01:10:36,536 --> 01:10:37,972
"You're gonna play defense."
1325
01:10:38,146 --> 01:10:39,626
We're gonna stick you back
at the back
1326
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,976
because we're just gonna
use you athletically.
1327
01:10:46,459 --> 01:10:48,592
It's just like, "Oh,
you're six-foot-two
1328
01:10:48,766 --> 01:10:50,507
and you're a Black kid,
you're 190,
you should be a beast."
1329
01:10:50,681 --> 01:10:53,466
No, why can't a six-foot,
290-pound Black kid
1330
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:54,598
be pretty out there?
1331
01:10:54,772 --> 01:10:55,686
One, two, three, four.
1332
01:10:55,860 --> 01:10:57,035
Come on. Come on.
1333
01:10:59,298 --> 01:11:00,734
It's just something that,
that starts from the time
1334
01:11:00,908 --> 01:11:01,866
that they're younger.
1335
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,737
They just segment guys.
1336
01:11:03,911 --> 01:11:05,391
That's why you don't see
a lot of Black centers,
1337
01:11:05,565 --> 01:11:07,088
glory positions.
1338
01:11:07,263 --> 01:11:10,744
And it's a story
that they've created.
1339
01:11:10,918 --> 01:11:14,618
They're running out of,
um, excuses,
1340
01:11:14,792 --> 01:11:16,620
really, is what I would say.
1341
01:11:28,632 --> 01:11:31,461
When I was younger,
the first player
I was introduced to
1342
01:11:31,635 --> 01:11:33,463
was Willie O'Ree,
um, by my parents.
1343
01:11:33,637 --> 01:11:35,247
They just wanted me
to know that, you know,
1344
01:11:35,421 --> 01:11:36,857
obviously, hockey is
a pretty white sport,
1345
01:11:37,031 --> 01:11:38,642
but, you know,
it was a possibility
1346
01:11:38,816 --> 01:11:40,252
because somebody, you know,
who looked like me
1347
01:11:40,426 --> 01:11:41,427
had already made it.
1348
01:11:46,911 --> 01:11:48,434
My parents always
prepared me well
1349
01:11:48,608 --> 01:11:50,218
for being one of
the only Black players
1350
01:11:50,393 --> 01:11:52,003
in hockey, to expect it,
1351
01:11:52,177 --> 01:11:53,613
you know,
and try not to react to it.
1352
01:11:53,787 --> 01:11:54,484
But it's hard.
I'm a human being.
1353
01:11:59,576 --> 01:12:01,882
I had just gotten traded from
LA to Philadelphia, and...
1354
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:04,755
It was kind of, you know,
a new start for me,
1355
01:12:04,929 --> 01:12:06,234
a place where I could go
1356
01:12:06,409 --> 01:12:07,932
and, uh,
kind of reinvent myself.
1357
01:12:08,759 --> 01:12:10,543
We were playing Detroit,
1358
01:12:10,717 --> 01:12:12,328
at the John Labatt Centre
in London, Ontario.
1359
01:12:13,067 --> 01:12:14,939
So we were tied
after regulation,
1360
01:12:15,113 --> 01:12:16,593
overtime,
we go into a shootout.
1361
01:12:16,767 --> 01:12:19,073
Um, I'm skating down the ice,
1362
01:12:19,247 --> 01:12:20,466
and all of a sudden,
1363
01:12:21,685 --> 01:12:23,339
I see an object fly by me.
1364
01:12:23,513 --> 01:12:25,079
Um, you know, at the time,
1365
01:12:25,253 --> 01:12:26,385
I'm like, kind of,
you know, "What is that?"
1366
01:12:26,559 --> 01:12:27,952
I take a glance. I'm like...
1367
01:12:28,996 --> 01:12:29,954
it's a banana.
1368
01:12:30,128 --> 01:12:31,347
And immediately,
1369
01:12:31,521 --> 01:12:32,783
I already know
what's going on.
1370
01:12:46,579 --> 01:12:48,146
I honest to God,
I had a million
different things
1371
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,756
going through my mind.
1372
01:12:49,930 --> 01:12:51,715
I knew guys
weren't gonna understand
1373
01:12:51,889 --> 01:12:53,586
what I was going through,
so I just buried it.
1374
01:12:54,587 --> 01:12:56,328
To the outside world,
I probably looked like
it didn't affect me much.
1375
01:12:56,502 --> 01:12:58,678
But, um, you know,
on the inside, it was burning.
1376
01:13:00,158 --> 01:13:01,333
This morning, Londoner,
1377
01:13:01,507 --> 01:13:03,509
Christopher Moorhouse, 26,
1378
01:13:03,683 --> 01:13:06,382
pleaded guilty
under the Trespass Act
1379
01:13:06,556 --> 01:13:08,296
for throwing
that piece of fruit.
1380
01:13:08,471 --> 01:13:11,212
While Moorhouse pled guilty
to the one charge
1381
01:13:11,387 --> 01:13:13,911
after an extensive
police investigation,
1382
01:13:14,085 --> 01:13:15,739
what was revealed this morning
1383
01:13:15,913 --> 01:13:18,655
was that there was
absolutely no evidence
1384
01:13:18,829 --> 01:13:20,744
that the throwing
of the banana
1385
01:13:20,918 --> 01:13:22,049
was racially motivated.
1386
01:13:22,223 --> 01:13:23,747
After hearing the evidence,
1387
01:13:23,921 --> 01:13:25,705
justice of the peace,
Robert Seneshen,
1388
01:13:25,879 --> 01:13:26,967
referred to Moorhouse
1389
01:13:27,141 --> 01:13:28,752
as a thoughtful young man
1390
01:13:28,926 --> 01:13:30,188
who is not a racist
1391
01:13:30,362 --> 01:13:32,320
or a bigot in any way.
1392
01:13:32,495 --> 01:13:34,192
Moorhouse was fined $200,
1393
01:13:34,366 --> 01:13:36,324
and the justice of the peace
said he hoped
1394
01:13:36,499 --> 01:13:38,414
that he could put
the incident behind him
1395
01:13:38,588 --> 01:13:42,026
and continue on his path
towards a career in policing.
1396
01:13:47,814 --> 01:13:49,686
I don't know
how many times
1397
01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:51,252
I've gotten called something
and everyone's like,
1398
01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:52,645
"Oh, you know,
it's just one person,
1399
01:13:52,819 --> 01:13:54,255
you know, they're ignorant."
1400
01:13:54,430 --> 01:13:56,127
Well, then why has
this happened to me?
1401
01:13:56,823 --> 01:13:58,738
I can't even count the amount
of times this happened to me.
1402
01:13:58,912 --> 01:14:00,784
So why does that happen?
If it's one person,
1403
01:14:00,958 --> 01:14:02,525
and that is the only
ignorant person,
1404
01:14:02,699 --> 01:14:05,571
how is that situation
isolated? It's not.
1405
01:14:05,745 --> 01:14:09,009
It's-- it's a cultural problem
within the sport of hockey.
1406
01:14:09,183 --> 01:14:12,970
And the fact that, um,
it goes unchecked,
1407
01:14:13,144 --> 01:14:14,841
is the biggest problem
about it.
1408
01:14:15,015 --> 01:14:16,974
- Anybody of color
1409
01:14:17,148 --> 01:14:18,715
that tried to make it
playing hockey up there,
1410
01:14:18,889 --> 01:14:20,238
listen to the stories
they had.
1411
01:14:20,412 --> 01:14:21,979
They'd be like,
"Were you in Alabama?"
1412
01:14:22,153 --> 01:14:23,589
- "No, it was in Manitoba."
1413
01:14:23,763 --> 01:14:25,983
Members of
an indigenous hockey team
1414
01:14:26,157 --> 01:14:28,376
say they faced racist taunts.
1415
01:14:30,814 --> 01:14:33,164
In my lifetime,
I faced racism before
1416
01:14:33,338 --> 01:14:35,166
but not at this level.
1417
01:14:35,340 --> 01:14:36,428
These aren't
one-off incidents.
1418
01:14:36,602 --> 01:14:38,386
They happen all the time.
1419
01:14:38,561 --> 01:14:40,998
Racism knows no age limits.
1420
01:14:41,172 --> 01:14:43,087
Ask Divyne Apollon.
1421
01:14:43,261 --> 01:14:45,437
He had to endure monkey chants
from an opposing team.
1422
01:14:45,611 --> 01:14:47,744
Take Ty Cornett
who dealt with opponents
1423
01:14:47,918 --> 01:14:50,442
who acted like gorillas
every time he lined up
1424
01:14:50,616 --> 01:14:52,836
in front
of an opponent's bench.
1425
01:14:53,010 --> 01:14:55,708
It's frustrating
because I know
what that's like.
1426
01:14:55,882 --> 01:14:58,145
You know,
when I'm five years old,
listening to parents
1427
01:14:58,319 --> 01:15:00,713
scream names and things at me.
1428
01:15:00,887 --> 01:15:03,237
Subban shoots,
he scores.
1429
01:15:03,411 --> 01:15:05,805
Montreal's
P.K. Subban wins the game.
1430
01:15:05,979 --> 01:15:08,852
Meanwhile, on Twitter,
17,000 racist tweets
1431
01:15:09,026 --> 01:15:11,768
were posted by Boston fans
against Subban.
1432
01:15:11,942 --> 01:15:13,944
#whitesonly,
1433
01:15:14,118 --> 01:15:16,163
and called him
an "effing N-word."
1434
01:15:16,337 --> 01:15:18,949
It's meant
for you to feel like
1435
01:15:19,123 --> 01:15:20,733
you need to stay
in your place.
1436
01:15:20,907 --> 01:15:22,474
This is not attainable for you.
1437
01:15:22,648 --> 01:15:24,563
Blatant racism
is easier to pinpoint.
1438
01:15:24,737 --> 01:15:27,087
There are actions.
There are verbal assaults.
1439
01:15:27,261 --> 01:15:29,350
You can point to it.
It's very clearly,
1440
01:15:29,525 --> 01:15:31,135
you are called the N-word,
that's racist.
1441
01:15:31,309 --> 01:15:33,354
...24-year-old
Jonathan Diaby.
1442
01:15:33,529 --> 01:15:36,488
He says racist fans
targeted him and his family.
1443
01:15:36,662 --> 01:15:38,664
Player Akim Aliu,
1444
01:15:38,838 --> 01:15:40,405
was surprised
by equipment manager
1445
01:15:40,579 --> 01:15:43,451
dressed in Aliu's jersey,
with blackface.
1446
01:15:43,626 --> 01:15:46,585
People don't really understand
how bad it is
unless you're on the inside.
1447
01:15:46,759 --> 01:15:50,589
People think that
when we talk about
systemic racism, we mean,
1448
01:15:50,763 --> 01:15:54,245
there are racists
in your system.
But that's not it.
1449
01:15:54,419 --> 01:15:56,639
The Rangers
organized the Zoom chat
1450
01:15:56,813 --> 01:15:58,075
with Miller and fans,
1451
01:15:58,249 --> 01:16:00,512
and Miller saw racial slurs
1452
01:16:00,686 --> 01:16:03,036
all the time on this chat.
1453
01:16:03,210 --> 01:16:05,735
Jalen Smereck
was the target
of a racist gesture
1454
01:16:05,909 --> 01:16:07,563
by Andrei Deniskin.
1455
01:16:07,737 --> 01:16:10,609
He pantomimed unpeeling
and eating a banana.
1456
01:16:10,783 --> 01:16:13,003
When I seen that,
like my heart just dropped.
1457
01:16:13,177 --> 01:16:15,092
Systemic racism is the idea
1458
01:16:15,266 --> 01:16:18,922
that even if there were
no racists in your system,
1459
01:16:19,096 --> 01:16:21,838
we would still see racially
disparate outcomes.
1460
01:16:22,012 --> 01:16:24,971
Right? Because racism
is embedded in our institutions,
1461
01:16:25,145 --> 01:16:27,452
in our ideas,
in our patterns of behavior,
1462
01:16:27,626 --> 01:16:29,715
and it's self-perpetuating.
1463
01:16:29,889 --> 01:16:31,021
Death threats made
towards you,
1464
01:16:31,195 --> 01:16:33,110
racist threats made
towards you.
1465
01:16:33,284 --> 01:16:35,503
How do you deal with all that
and move on and play?
1466
01:16:35,678 --> 01:16:37,941
Sad to say, but that's just
the fact of the matter.
1467
01:16:38,115 --> 01:16:39,986
I'm getting good
at just putting it
in the rearview mirror.
1468
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,815
I've had racial remarks
directed towards me,
1469
01:16:42,989 --> 01:16:44,817
you know,
in the last couple of weeks.
1470
01:16:44,991 --> 01:16:47,777
There's so much hate going on
in the world today.
1471
01:16:48,386 --> 01:16:51,345
The video is damning evidence
of player misconduct,
1472
01:16:51,519 --> 01:16:54,392
yet no disciplinary action
has been taken.
1473
01:16:54,566 --> 01:16:57,743
In my time,
playing that level
of egregious misconduct,
1474
01:16:57,917 --> 01:17:01,138
was never punished. Ever.
1475
01:17:01,312 --> 01:17:04,489
There's a huge disconnect
between policy
1476
01:17:04,663 --> 01:17:06,883
and the enforcement
of the policy.
1477
01:17:07,057 --> 01:17:08,493
I'm not calling that
a blind spot.
1478
01:17:09,276 --> 01:17:11,452
That's a gaping hole
in our game,
1479
01:17:11,627 --> 01:17:13,106
that needs to be repaired.
1480
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,934
You cannot see
systemic racism
1481
01:17:15,108 --> 01:17:17,154
by focusing
on individual actions.
1482
01:17:17,328 --> 01:17:19,373
That is all smoke and mirrors.
1483
01:17:19,547 --> 01:17:21,245
These incidents
happen more often
1484
01:17:21,419 --> 01:17:23,551
than people wanna believe
or admit to.
1485
01:17:23,726 --> 01:17:25,162
We had 130 articles
1486
01:17:25,336 --> 01:17:27,164
of incidents
dating back to 2018.
1487
01:17:27,338 --> 01:17:29,253
And because
we keep treating them
1488
01:17:29,427 --> 01:17:31,995
as isolated incidents,
no one's connecting the dots
1489
01:17:32,169 --> 01:17:35,389
and saying,
"We have a broader problem
1490
01:17:35,563 --> 01:17:37,174
that we need to deal with,
1491
01:17:37,827 --> 01:17:39,437
and it's called
systemic racism."
1492
01:17:39,611 --> 01:17:42,309
You cannot solve
systemic issues
1493
01:17:42,483 --> 01:17:43,528
with individual action.
1494
01:17:43,702 --> 01:17:45,922
You cannot understand racism
1495
01:17:46,096 --> 01:17:48,228
as only individualistic.
1496
01:17:48,968 --> 01:17:50,666
It's-- it's a distraction.
1497
01:18:06,159 --> 01:18:08,335
The Black community
is starting to emerge
1498
01:18:08,509 --> 01:18:09,772
by the early 1900s.
1499
01:18:12,209 --> 01:18:14,994
Simultaneously,
they're sitting in around
the Bedford Basin.
1500
01:18:15,168 --> 01:18:18,302
Places like Africville,
prime industrial land.
1501
01:18:18,911 --> 01:18:22,175
Halifax has to expand.
The railroads have to come in.
1502
01:18:22,349 --> 01:18:23,394
Whose lands are they taking?
1503
01:18:23,568 --> 01:18:25,048
They're taking
1504
01:18:25,222 --> 01:18:26,789
the Black
hockey players' lands.
1505
01:18:26,963 --> 01:18:28,660
So these families
are fighting back.
1506
01:18:29,356 --> 01:18:33,404
The city of Halifax
wanted to build a railroad
1507
01:18:33,578 --> 01:18:34,753
through the community.
1508
01:18:34,927 --> 01:18:37,060
And a number of players
1509
01:18:37,234 --> 01:18:39,758
that played on
the Africville Seasides
1510
01:18:39,932 --> 01:18:41,934
started to protest.
1511
01:18:43,893 --> 01:18:46,373
A part of
the backlash from that
1512
01:18:46,547 --> 01:18:49,768
was to attack the Maritime
Colored Hockey League.
1513
01:18:50,595 --> 01:18:52,118
Rinks weren't available.
1514
01:18:53,206 --> 01:18:56,470
Local newspapers, uh,
refused to cover the games.
1515
01:19:01,258 --> 01:19:04,261
By 1908, there's no
Colored Hockey Leagues
1516
01:19:04,435 --> 01:19:06,654
playing in and around
the arenas of Halifax.
1517
01:19:06,829 --> 01:19:07,830
They're gone.
1518
01:19:08,874 --> 01:19:12,225
Fast forward, 50, 60 years,
1519
01:19:12,399 --> 01:19:14,140
you've got the destruction
of Africville.
1520
01:19:15,402 --> 01:19:17,274
Africville obviously,
1521
01:19:17,448 --> 01:19:19,363
must be redeveloped.
1522
01:19:19,537 --> 01:19:23,019
And sometimes,
some people need to be shown
1523
01:19:23,193 --> 01:19:25,717
that certain things are not
in their own best interests
1524
01:19:25,891 --> 01:19:27,937
and not in the best interest
of their children.
1525
01:19:34,682 --> 01:19:36,206
Many of
the city officials
1526
01:19:36,380 --> 01:19:39,557
saw that community
as a barrier
1527
01:19:39,731 --> 01:19:43,256
to supposedly
economic development.
1528
01:19:47,957 --> 01:19:52,135
They razed the--
the homes and the school...
1529
01:19:52,700 --> 01:19:55,965
It was quite
a traumatic experience.
1530
01:19:56,879 --> 01:20:00,708
Not only for the Africville
residents themselves,
1531
01:20:00,883 --> 01:20:03,711
but for the broader
Black community.
1532
01:20:05,409 --> 01:20:06,889
They took our homes,
1533
01:20:07,063 --> 01:20:08,891
they moved us
out of Africville,
1534
01:20:09,065 --> 01:20:11,894
in the city garbage trucks.
1535
01:20:12,068 --> 01:20:14,157
We had a lot better out there
1536
01:20:14,331 --> 01:20:17,160
than some places
they put us in this city.
1537
01:20:17,334 --> 01:20:19,075
I'm living on welfare.
1538
01:20:20,032 --> 01:20:21,817
I think a whole lot of us,
1539
01:20:21,991 --> 01:20:24,254
when we came in this city,
we had to go on welfare.
1540
01:20:24,428 --> 01:20:27,039
When we lived
in that city of Africville,
1541
01:20:27,213 --> 01:20:30,303
you look in the record to see
how many Africville people
1542
01:20:30,477 --> 01:20:33,306
had to humble and come
to the city for welfare.
1543
01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:35,787
We were too independent.
1544
01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:39,356
We didn't want it,
we earned our own living.
1545
01:20:39,530 --> 01:20:42,446
And we've earned it
the honest way.
1546
01:20:44,143 --> 01:20:48,495
The last resident
to leave in 1970
1547
01:20:48,669 --> 01:20:51,934
was Aaron "Pa" Carvery,
1548
01:20:52,108 --> 01:20:55,328
and he played
with the Africville Seasides.
1549
01:20:57,417 --> 01:21:00,899
Aaron "Pa" Carvery,
he would be my great uncle.
1550
01:21:01,073 --> 01:21:02,596
He was the last warrior.
1551
01:21:03,162 --> 01:21:05,208
He didn't go till 1970.
1552
01:21:05,382 --> 01:21:06,426
And, you know,
1553
01:21:07,210 --> 01:21:09,168
my Uncle Pa,
1554
01:21:10,300 --> 01:21:13,303
and my grandmother,
in that generation,
1555
01:21:13,477 --> 01:21:14,739
all of them,
1556
01:21:14,913 --> 01:21:17,307
were gone within five years
1557
01:21:17,481 --> 01:21:19,265
of having to leave Africville.
1558
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,312
And every one of them died
with a broken heart.
1559
01:21:22,486 --> 01:21:24,053
Because all they wanted
1560
01:21:24,227 --> 01:21:28,144
was the dignity to die
where they were born.
1561
01:21:28,318 --> 01:21:29,536
It's all they wanted.
1562
01:21:45,813 --> 01:21:47,250
Yeah...
1563
01:21:57,390 --> 01:21:59,001
There's an anger.
1564
01:21:59,697 --> 01:22:01,133
Not only a sadness,
1565
01:22:01,307 --> 01:22:03,309
but I am--
I am moving into anger,
1566
01:22:04,006 --> 01:22:07,313
that through no fault
of their own,
1567
01:22:08,227 --> 01:22:10,577
that this community's gone.
1568
01:22:15,321 --> 01:22:17,149
And there was no longer
1569
01:22:17,323 --> 01:22:19,238
the community taking care
of community anymore.
1570
01:22:19,412 --> 01:22:21,545
And all the social ills
1571
01:22:21,719 --> 01:22:25,201
that, um,
society's plagued with,
1572
01:22:25,375 --> 01:22:29,031
um, hit our community
that was now dispersed.
1573
01:23:35,706 --> 01:23:36,924
What's up?
1574
01:23:37,969 --> 01:23:39,449
Julian, where's your dad at?
1575
01:23:41,755 --> 01:23:44,062
What's up? Nice jersey.
Julian, where's your dad at?
1576
01:23:44,236 --> 01:23:46,412
I would say, I hit this,
like, pivotal moment around,
1577
01:23:46,586 --> 01:23:48,762
like, 26, 27
1578
01:23:48,936 --> 01:23:51,461
where my mindset changed from
1579
01:23:51,635 --> 01:23:53,463
me being, in some ways, selfish
1580
01:23:53,637 --> 01:23:55,421
and just concerned
about my own career.
1581
01:23:55,595 --> 01:23:57,075
"How do I get better
in this game?
1582
01:23:57,249 --> 01:23:59,164
How do I move up in this game?"
1583
01:23:59,338 --> 01:24:03,342
But then...
What's the next kid
that's gonna be me,
1584
01:24:03,516 --> 01:24:05,214
coming up in this game.
1585
01:24:05,388 --> 01:24:08,043
What's the ten-year-old Akim,
right now, feeling?
1586
01:24:08,478 --> 01:24:10,436
How can I help that kid
1587
01:24:10,610 --> 01:24:13,048
to not experience
what I went through?
1588
01:24:13,222 --> 01:24:15,267
Today's a celebratory day
for me.
1589
01:24:15,441 --> 01:24:16,834
I mean, obviously,
1590
01:24:17,008 --> 01:24:18,488
you see a lot of kids
of color sitting here,
1591
01:24:18,662 --> 01:24:21,491
and girls, and obviously
indigenous, Asian, Black.
1592
01:24:22,144 --> 01:24:24,146
For the most part,
you look different
in your dressing rooms
1593
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:25,669
than I did growing up. I mean,
1594
01:24:25,843 --> 01:24:27,236
I played 12 years professionally
1595
01:24:27,410 --> 01:24:30,935
and I played with
two other people of color.
1596
01:24:31,109 --> 01:24:32,893
Every time you look
left or right,
1597
01:24:33,068 --> 01:24:35,026
you never really see anybody
that looks like you.
1598
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:36,897
Um, and that kind of hits you
in a-- in a different way,
1599
01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:38,769
especially as you
get older. So...
1600
01:24:39,944 --> 01:24:42,207
I had some racial incidents
happen to me.
1601
01:24:43,556 --> 01:24:45,384
Um, what,
what I'm doing right now,
1602
01:24:45,558 --> 01:24:47,169
obviously, we don't have
to go through the same thing.
1603
01:24:48,126 --> 01:24:49,562
I'm super excited.
We'll go out there
1604
01:24:49,736 --> 01:24:51,564
and have fun today
and have a good tempo
1605
01:24:51,738 --> 01:24:53,784
and good atmosphere
and enjoy it.
1606
01:25:02,401 --> 01:25:05,143
I've kind of come
into my own recently.
1607
01:25:06,536 --> 01:25:10,192
It's just been a recent switch
from anger to empowerment.
1608
01:25:10,366 --> 01:25:12,150
Anybody want an XL?
1609
01:25:13,151 --> 01:25:16,850
The XLs actually aren't
even that big, so...
You want XL or large?
1610
01:25:17,024 --> 01:25:19,462
I'm more so worried about
affecting the girls behind me
1611
01:25:19,636 --> 01:25:21,638
and allowing them
to have a pathway
1612
01:25:21,812 --> 01:25:23,596
to walk that I didn't have.
1613
01:25:23,770 --> 01:25:26,077
Let them have the resources,
the networking,
1614
01:25:26,251 --> 01:25:27,687
all of those amazing things
1615
01:25:27,861 --> 01:25:29,559
that I saw
my teammates having,
1616
01:25:29,733 --> 01:25:31,300
that I didn't have necessarily
growing up.
1617
01:25:31,474 --> 01:25:33,432
Um, and making sure
that they feel comfortable
1618
01:25:33,606 --> 01:25:35,739
and welcomed in the arena.
1619
01:25:35,913 --> 01:25:37,044
That is great.
1620
01:25:37,219 --> 01:25:38,655
How great is this, guys?
1621
01:25:41,223 --> 01:25:43,355
I thought I had
trouble fitting my hair.
1622
01:25:44,922 --> 01:25:47,446
Everyone always ask me, um,
1623
01:25:47,620 --> 01:25:49,448
"How does all your hair
fit in a helmet?"
1624
01:25:49,622 --> 01:25:50,841
- I know.
- I'm like it just does.
1625
01:25:51,015 --> 01:25:52,147
- Right?
- Yeah.
1626
01:25:53,104 --> 01:25:55,019
I know that they love
seeing me on the ice.
1627
01:25:55,193 --> 01:25:56,977
And I love seeing
the Black girls
1628
01:25:57,152 --> 01:25:58,892
that I see
at the arena every day.
1629
01:25:59,066 --> 01:26:00,633
Um, now, that I didn't see
when I was younger.
1630
01:26:00,807 --> 01:26:02,113
There we go.
1631
01:26:02,287 --> 01:26:03,332
- Let's go.
1632
01:26:05,247 --> 01:26:07,118
Let's go, let's go. Let's go!
1633
01:26:08,424 --> 01:26:11,775
...inside, inside.
1634
01:26:12,471 --> 01:26:15,082
Good job, good job.
1635
01:26:15,257 --> 01:26:17,346
My generation
is trying to open it up
1636
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,696
so that you can be yourself.
1637
01:26:21,524 --> 01:26:23,526
My dream is that,
you know, everybody can,
1638
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:25,963
you know, play hockey
without having to worry
1639
01:26:26,137 --> 01:26:28,661
about what's gonna
happen to them
if they speak their mind.
1640
01:26:28,835 --> 01:26:31,098
But I know we've got
a long way to go
before that happens.
1641
01:26:34,189 --> 01:26:38,932
I think it's time for
the game of hockey to evolve
1642
01:26:39,106 --> 01:26:41,152
the way Canada is evolving
1643
01:26:41,326 --> 01:26:43,415
and bringing in people
from all over the world.
1644
01:26:44,155 --> 01:26:46,636
It's Canada's game,
but it doesn't appeal
1645
01:26:46,810 --> 01:26:49,334
to what Canadian
demographics are.
1646
01:26:50,117 --> 01:26:52,381
And we still have
a really tough time
1647
01:26:52,555 --> 01:26:55,166
in attracting people of color
to play the game of hockey.
1648
01:26:55,340 --> 01:26:56,733
They just don't
resonate with it.
1649
01:26:57,777 --> 01:27:00,171
For me, it's one of those
things I just think that...
1650
01:27:00,345 --> 01:27:02,042
That it's something
worth saving
1651
01:27:02,217 --> 01:27:04,044
because it has
so much potential.
1652
01:27:07,178 --> 01:27:09,224
My first year playing
with another Black player
1653
01:27:09,398 --> 01:27:10,964
was my senior year of college.
1654
01:27:11,138 --> 01:27:12,836
And at that point in time,
I felt like
1655
01:27:13,010 --> 01:27:14,968
that was gonna be
my last year playing.
1656
01:27:15,142 --> 01:27:16,753
Um, I had lost my love
for the game
1657
01:27:16,927 --> 01:27:18,798
because I didn't have
friends on my team
1658
01:27:18,972 --> 01:27:21,279
like how you guys are
all friends in a community.
1659
01:27:21,453 --> 01:27:23,325
I know sometimes
things get said,
1660
01:27:23,499 --> 01:27:25,414
it might be awkward
and then you got
to internalize it
1661
01:27:25,588 --> 01:27:27,764
because you're the only
Black player in the room.
1662
01:27:27,938 --> 01:27:30,810
But I think once we--
once we get these Black faces
in the arena,
1663
01:27:30,984 --> 01:27:32,943
I think we're gonna see
Black individuals
1664
01:27:33,117 --> 01:27:34,901
being welcomed in the arena,
1665
01:27:35,075 --> 01:27:37,513
um, which is something that
we haven't necessarily had.
1666
01:27:40,385 --> 01:27:42,605
I really wish now
I had spoken out a lot more
1667
01:27:42,779 --> 01:27:44,868
'cause I think it would have
went a long way to helping out,
1668
01:27:45,042 --> 01:27:46,522
you know,
younger kids that were...
1669
01:27:47,392 --> 01:27:50,134
You know, look like me,
and could possibly be
in that position.
1670
01:27:51,135 --> 01:27:52,919
All right,
ladies and gentlemen,
1671
01:27:53,093 --> 01:27:55,139
I think I wanna leave you guys
with one parting message.
1672
01:27:55,313 --> 01:27:56,793
You guys can do
whatever you guys wanna do.
1673
01:27:56,967 --> 01:27:59,230
You guys see me, right?
I play in the NHL.
1674
01:27:59,404 --> 01:28:02,059
I started right where
you guys are. Right?
1675
01:28:02,233 --> 01:28:04,366
Don't ever let anybody
take that from you
1676
01:28:04,540 --> 01:28:06,150
because you guys
are kings and queens,
1677
01:28:06,324 --> 01:28:08,326
and you can do whatever
you guys wanna do.
1678
01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:09,980
- Yes?
- Uh...
1679
01:28:12,417 --> 01:28:13,984
Yes. Um...
1680
01:28:14,767 --> 01:28:17,814
Unfortunately,
the sport that we play,
1681
01:28:17,988 --> 01:28:20,077
some people don't want us
to play this sport.
1682
01:28:20,251 --> 01:28:22,427
But we got news for them.
This is our sport.
1683
01:28:22,601 --> 01:28:24,603
We go all the way back
to the 1800s
1684
01:28:24,777 --> 01:28:27,780
and the Colored Hockey League
back in Nova Scotia, right?
1685
01:28:27,954 --> 01:28:30,217
So don't let anybody
ever tell you
this is not your sport
1686
01:28:30,392 --> 01:28:32,176
because this is exactly
what you're supposed to be.
1687
01:28:33,264 --> 01:28:34,483
Exactly.
1688
01:28:44,580 --> 01:28:46,364
I thought about
sometimes quitting hockey
1689
01:28:46,538 --> 01:28:48,758
but my teammates
brought me out,
1690
01:28:48,932 --> 01:28:51,021
telling me, you know,
"We support you in this"
1691
01:28:51,195 --> 01:28:52,718
and they helped along the way.
1692
01:28:54,111 --> 01:28:56,113
And the community behind us, especially.
1693
01:28:56,983 --> 01:29:00,683
That lift my spirits
and made me feel very good.
1694
01:29:06,428 --> 01:29:08,517
You know, even guys
we compete against, you know,
1695
01:29:08,691 --> 01:29:10,562
some of us are buddies,
and we all know each other.
1696
01:29:10,736 --> 01:29:12,521
And they tell me, like,
"Hey, man,
1697
01:29:12,695 --> 01:29:15,001
we support you through this."
1698
01:29:15,175 --> 01:29:17,439
They all said, you know,
"This got to be changed.
This got to stop.
1699
01:29:17,613 --> 01:29:19,310
It shouldn't be
happening anymore."
1700
01:29:29,581 --> 01:29:32,628
There are a lot
of things that people
might not think is palatable.
1701
01:29:33,542 --> 01:29:35,065
But all those stories
have to be told
1702
01:29:35,239 --> 01:29:36,675
so that we get
a true depiction
1703
01:29:36,849 --> 01:29:38,808
of where we need to go,
where we've been
1704
01:29:38,982 --> 01:29:42,072
and, and how we get
to where we wanna go.
1705
01:29:42,246 --> 01:29:43,726
I think
it's vitally important
1706
01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:45,641
that we reclaim
our place in history.
1707
01:29:45,815 --> 01:29:48,339
We're not just
the runaway slaves
1708
01:29:48,513 --> 01:29:51,777
or free loyalists who came
to build and to clean.
1709
01:29:51,951 --> 01:29:54,040
We had a good place
in history.
1710
01:29:54,214 --> 01:29:56,173
That should not be ignored.
1711
01:29:56,347 --> 01:29:58,393
Nor no longer forgotten
or buried.
1712
01:30:00,090 --> 01:30:02,005
I think now,
you know, I'm a grown man.
1713
01:30:02,179 --> 01:30:03,615
I learned so much.
1714
01:30:03,789 --> 01:30:05,356
And now, at 26 years old,
1715
01:30:05,530 --> 01:30:07,663
I'm finally talking
about this.
1716
01:30:07,837 --> 01:30:09,839
It is... It's not easy.
You know,
it's not comfortable.
1717
01:30:10,013 --> 01:30:13,408
Um, but it's, it's definitely,
uh, something we have to do,
1718
01:30:13,582 --> 01:30:15,627
especially for the younger
generation coming up.
1719
01:30:17,237 --> 01:30:19,414
I've seen so many kids, like,
be turned away from hockey,
1720
01:30:19,588 --> 01:30:21,416
and it makes me so sad
every year,
1721
01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:23,592
because I see, like,
my younger self
1722
01:30:23,766 --> 01:30:24,854
in these kids.
1723
01:30:25,463 --> 01:30:27,117
Our game
is stagnant right now.
1724
01:30:27,291 --> 01:30:30,381
Are we going to invite
the next generation in,
1725
01:30:30,555 --> 01:30:32,731
or are we going to isolate
1726
01:30:32,905 --> 01:30:35,168
and say, "No, you actually
can't be a part of it?"
1727
01:30:35,995 --> 01:30:37,736
It's about
the incidents that happen
1728
01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:39,259
every day in our world.
1729
01:30:39,434 --> 01:30:40,783
It's opening people's eyes
1730
01:30:40,957 --> 01:30:42,698
that these things happen
1731
01:30:42,872 --> 01:30:44,526
and people have to live
with these things.
1732
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:46,092
That's difficult.
1733
01:30:47,267 --> 01:30:50,401
If you start talking about
those kinds of issues,
1734
01:30:50,575 --> 01:30:52,925
there is a level
of uncomfortability.
1735
01:30:53,665 --> 01:30:55,580
But as you come to grips
1736
01:30:55,754 --> 01:30:58,496
with those
uncomfortable issues,
1737
01:30:58,670 --> 01:31:00,629
can you move forward?
1738
01:31:03,283 --> 01:31:05,242
I mean,
the stories we tell,
1739
01:31:05,416 --> 01:31:07,070
and the stories
we tell ourselves,
1740
01:31:07,244 --> 01:31:08,767
the stories
we tell our children,
1741
01:31:08,941 --> 01:31:11,466
the stories we tell
about ourselves,
1742
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,207
who we are as individuals,
as communities.
1743
01:31:14,381 --> 01:31:16,166
As a country, right?
1744
01:31:16,340 --> 01:31:20,387
These are foundational
to who we think we are.
1745
01:31:20,562 --> 01:31:22,868
Right? And so the stories
that are not told,
1746
01:31:23,042 --> 01:31:25,044
the stories that are
kind of jettisoned
1747
01:31:25,218 --> 01:31:27,003
from the realm
of what's imaginable,
1748
01:31:27,177 --> 01:31:30,310
it goes to the core
of our national identity.
1749
01:31:30,485 --> 01:31:32,878
And so, when Black people
are excluded
1750
01:31:33,052 --> 01:31:34,924
from those stories, right?
1751
01:31:35,098 --> 01:31:38,275
We let Canada think
that we are new,
1752
01:31:38,449 --> 01:31:40,538
we have never been here,
1753
01:31:40,712 --> 01:31:42,235
we don't really belong here,
1754
01:31:42,409 --> 01:31:44,803
we should be grateful
to be here.
1755
01:31:44,977 --> 01:31:49,504
While what we actually are,
are, you know, we are integral
1756
01:31:49,678 --> 01:31:52,550
to everything
this country thinks it is.
1757
01:32:27,933 --> 01:32:32,982
♪ Oh, Africville
Look what they've done to me ♪
1758
01:32:33,156 --> 01:32:35,593
♪ It's a part of our history
They kept in the class ♪
1759
01:32:35,767 --> 01:32:37,160
♪ And professors never taught
the lessons ♪
1760
01:32:37,334 --> 01:32:39,075
♪ They neglected forgot it ♪
1761
01:32:39,249 --> 01:32:40,511
♪ They kept it
underneath the table ♪
1762
01:32:40,685 --> 01:32:42,252
♪ Kept it under the surface ♪
1763
01:32:42,426 --> 01:32:43,949
♪ Nervous that we would
reemerge it ♪
1764
01:32:44,123 --> 01:32:45,734
♪ They dispersed us
and jerked us ♪
1765
01:32:45,908 --> 01:32:47,779
♪ Out in Africville
Halifax is ill ♪
1766
01:32:47,953 --> 01:32:49,999
♪ How can us Blacks rebuild
when the facts reveal ♪
1767
01:32:50,173 --> 01:32:52,305
♪ The government
left them comatose ♪
1768
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,612
♪ The younger and older folks
in Black Nova Scotia souls ♪
1769
01:32:54,786 --> 01:32:56,571
♪ Have frozen many homes ♪
1770
01:32:56,745 --> 01:32:58,660
♪ Are broken drugs
started creeping in ♪
1771
01:32:58,834 --> 01:33:00,531
♪ Crime started seeping in
The heaven got crushed ♪
1772
01:33:00,705 --> 01:33:02,402
♪ When the demons
started sneaking in ♪
1773
01:33:02,577 --> 01:33:04,143
♪ A Black community
lost and trampled ♪
1774
01:33:04,317 --> 01:33:06,189
♪ Left out in shambles ♪
1775
01:33:06,363 --> 01:33:08,017
♪ Dismantled and it's
still hard to handle ♪
1776
01:33:08,191 --> 01:33:09,845
♪ You can't put a price ♪
1777
01:33:10,019 --> 01:33:13,283
♪ On the lives
that they ruined ♪
1778
01:33:14,197 --> 01:33:16,939
♪ No reparations, no nothing ♪
1779
01:33:17,113 --> 01:33:19,115
♪ Why would you do this? ♪
1780
01:33:20,029 --> 01:33:25,643
♪ Divide my people to find out
on the corners at night ♪
1781
01:33:25,817 --> 01:33:30,822
♪ Oh, Africville,
look what they've done to me ♪
1782
01:33:31,518 --> 01:33:33,303
♪ Take my word it's time
to settle this ♪
1783
01:33:33,477 --> 01:33:35,305
♪ As I reminisce
about the settlement ♪
1784
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:37,176
♪ If you Black from Halifax ♪
1785
01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:38,961
♪ I'm speaking
about your relatives ♪
1786
01:33:39,135 --> 01:33:40,527
♪ History don't like
to tell of it ♪
1787
01:33:40,702 --> 01:33:42,094
♪ Discreet about
its relevance ♪
1788
01:33:42,268 --> 01:33:43,922
♪ 'Cause
a Black community ♪
1789
01:33:44,096 --> 01:33:45,707
♪ Was a disease
to their development ♪
1790
01:33:45,881 --> 01:33:47,143
♪ Therefore they had
to change that ♪
1791
01:33:47,317 --> 01:33:49,014
♪ But those in the community ♪
1792
01:33:49,188 --> 01:33:50,668
♪ That lay beside
the train tracks ♪
1793
01:33:50,842 --> 01:33:52,757
♪ Forced to make
tax payments ♪
1794
01:33:52,931 --> 01:33:54,150
♪ Despite the lack of
running water and sewage ♪
1795
01:33:54,324 --> 01:33:56,326
♪ Flat pavement and light ♪
1796
01:33:56,500 --> 01:33:58,067
♪ Our forefathers bought
themselves from enslavement ♪
1797
01:33:58,241 --> 01:34:00,025
♪ With rights
to land ownership ♪
1798
01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:01,723
♪ I'm asking people
How do you condone this shit? ♪
1799
01:34:01,897 --> 01:34:02,941
♪ See what happened
to Africville ♪
1800
01:34:03,115 --> 01:34:04,421
♪ It happens still ♪
1801
01:34:04,595 --> 01:34:05,857
♪ They choose land over man ♪
1802
01:34:06,031 --> 01:34:07,250
♪ To expand extract and kill ♪
1803
01:34:07,424 --> 01:34:09,078
♪ You can't put a price ♪
1804
01:34:09,252 --> 01:34:11,080
♪ On the lives
that they ruined ♪
1805
01:34:12,037 --> 01:34:14,779
♪ No reparations, no nothing ♪
1806
01:34:14,953 --> 01:34:16,999
♪ Why would you do this? ♪
1807
01:34:17,826 --> 01:34:23,483
♪ Divide my people to find out
on the corners at night ♪
1808
01:34:23,658 --> 01:34:28,488
♪ Oh, Africville
Look what they've done to me ♪
1809
01:34:28,663 --> 01:34:30,882
♪ How can you compensate
a lost culture? ♪
1810
01:34:31,056 --> 01:34:32,710
♪ Especially
when it's smashed up ♪
1811
01:34:32,884 --> 01:34:34,669
♪ In a system
of colonial vultures ♪
1812
01:34:34,843 --> 01:34:37,106
♪ Africville, they made
a real-life theatrical poster ♪
1813
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:38,977
♪ They moved Blacks
off the base ♪
1814
01:34:39,151 --> 01:34:41,284
♪ And using garbage trucks
as chauffeurs ♪
1815
01:34:41,458 --> 01:34:42,807
♪ It's pretty clever how they
did this through the night ♪
1816
01:34:42,981 --> 01:34:44,461
♪ Destroying Black history ♪
1817
01:34:44,635 --> 01:34:46,506
♪ With no regard
for human life ♪
1818
01:34:46,681 --> 01:34:48,639
♪ Into the crack-infested
ghetto city lights ♪
1819
01:34:48,813 --> 01:34:50,380
♪ Hundreds of Black children ♪
1820
01:34:50,554 --> 01:34:52,121
♪ Hating each other
ready to fight ♪
1821
01:34:52,295 --> 01:34:53,731
♪ There's no amount
of reparations ♪
1822
01:34:53,905 --> 01:34:55,864
♪ Compensations
rehabilitation ♪
1823
01:34:56,038 --> 01:34:58,040
♪ Three day celebrations
never changed the situation ♪
1824
01:34:58,214 --> 01:35:00,259
♪ Even though it's been proved
by the United Nations ♪
1825
01:35:00,433 --> 01:35:02,044
♪ That the Africville
relocation ♪
1826
01:35:02,218 --> 01:35:03,741
♪ Was a civil rights
violation ♪
1827
01:35:03,915 --> 01:35:05,612
♪ You can't put a price ♪
1828
01:35:05,787 --> 01:35:09,051
♪ On the lives
that they've ruined ♪
1829
01:35:09,704 --> 01:35:12,532
♪ No reparations, no nothing ♪
1830
01:35:12,707 --> 01:35:14,796
♪ Why would you do this? ♪
1831
01:35:15,710 --> 01:35:21,367
♪ Divide my people to find out
on the corners at night ♪
1832
01:35:21,541 --> 01:35:25,937
♪ Oh, Africville
Look what they've done to me ♪
1833
01:35:26,111 --> 01:35:28,592
♪ Look what
they've done to me ♪