1 00:00:01,084 --> 00:00:03,837 JOSEPHINE: Anthony, what do you expect to find down here? 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:03,962 --> 00:00:06,172 ANTHONY GIACCHINO: Ma, I have so much on those tapes. 4 00:00:06,297 --> 00:00:08,466 There's got to be a ton of stuff on Michael. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:09,217 --> 00:00:10,218 Okay. 7 00:00:14,806 --> 00:00:17,308 Wait a minute. Are you going to show all this crap? 8 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:21,187 All of it. And... 9 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:27,527 Voilà. I spent a good part of my teenage years 10 00:00:27,610 --> 00:00:30,155 -recording almost every day of my life. -Oh, yeah. 11 00:00:30,238 --> 00:00:32,741 And there's a ton of family history on these tapes. 12 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,326 So you want to use these on your documentary then? 13 00:00:35,493 --> 00:00:37,120 ANTHONY: Exactly. Yes. 14 00:00:37,746 --> 00:00:40,123 This is all 1989. 15 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:42,500 So you've captured Michael 16 00:00:42,584 --> 00:00:44,377 -on a cassette... -Many times. 17 00:00:44,461 --> 00:00:47,297 -...before he made it in Hollywood. -Yes. 18 00:00:47,422 --> 00:00:49,841 -Okay. -No, I mean, 19 00:00:49,924 --> 00:00:53,261 it's a big deal. I mean, after all those years composing, 20 00:00:53,344 --> 00:00:55,805 he's finally going to be directing his own film. 21 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:58,349 Yes, and I mean a big... And a studio film, 22 00:00:58,433 --> 00:01:00,018 -for Marvel. -I know. 23 00:01:00,685 --> 00:01:02,854 He's wanted to do this since he was a kid. 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,069 "Tape 132, first day of last semester." 25 00:01:09,569 --> 00:01:13,448 "Sounds on the radio while I study for a math test." 26 00:01:14,449 --> 00:01:19,454 "1985. Mom and Dad's 25th wedding anniversary." 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,123 What it says on this side, B. 28 00:01:24,459 --> 00:01:26,336 (CASSETTE PLAYER WHIRRING) 29 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:28,797 -Will it work? -Let's see. 30 00:01:30,215 --> 00:01:31,841 (PEOPLE LAUGHING AND CHATTERING ON TAPE) 31 00:01:31,925 --> 00:01:34,219 WOMAN: (ON TAPE) We wish them luck and happiness, 32 00:01:34,302 --> 00:01:36,262 and hopefully we'll all be out soon 33 00:01:36,346 --> 00:01:39,599 so they can enjoy themselves more. 34 00:01:39,682 --> 00:01:43,561 MAN: (ON TAPE) To Anthony, the historian and recordkeeper of our family. 35 00:01:43,895 --> 00:01:45,230 WOMAN: Michael. MAN: Michael. 36 00:01:45,355 --> 00:01:47,190 -MICHAEL: Mom, Dad... -(ALL LAUGHING ON TAPE) 37 00:01:49,067 --> 00:01:51,194 Thanks for raising me to make movies. 38 00:01:51,402 --> 00:01:52,987 (ALL LAUGHING) 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,084 MICHAEL: Oh, yeah. Okay. Here we go. 40 00:02:06,167 --> 00:02:07,877 Yeah. This is my brother. 41 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:09,629 -Hey, how are ya? -Hey, what's up? 42 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:14,134 He is actually doing the behind the scenes on this thing. 43 00:02:14,384 --> 00:02:15,677 -Oh, shit. -Yes. 44 00:02:16,261 --> 00:02:18,179 But feel free to say whatever you want. 45 00:02:18,263 --> 00:02:21,683 So here's the thing, I want to know what you want to make 46 00:02:21,766 --> 00:02:23,893 -because I know you have an idea. -Yes. 47 00:02:24,185 --> 00:02:26,396 Listen, the thing to remember. 48 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:29,607 "This is a horror film. There needs to be suspense, 49 00:02:29,691 --> 00:02:31,151 "there needs to be dread." 50 00:02:31,234 --> 00:02:33,653 FORD: We can reduce it to this sort of binary thing. 51 00:02:33,736 --> 00:02:35,363 It starts getting cheesy and campy. 52 00:02:35,446 --> 00:02:36,531 That's too simple. 53 00:02:36,614 --> 00:02:39,826 Monsters don't come from nowhere, they come from people. 54 00:02:39,909 --> 00:02:41,703 And we don't want it to be void of humor, 55 00:02:41,786 --> 00:02:42,996 but it's not about that. 56 00:02:43,329 --> 00:02:46,666 It's about someone stepping into a place where they don't belong. 57 00:02:49,419 --> 00:02:52,881 ANTHONY: So you're about to direct your first film, and it's for Marvel. 58 00:02:52,964 --> 00:02:54,007 Are you nervous? 59 00:02:54,382 --> 00:02:57,594 I get to work with the best people in the world. 60 00:02:57,677 --> 00:02:59,512 So I'm not nervous. It's more just... 61 00:02:59,596 --> 00:03:02,307 I feel the same as that when I'm writing scores for films. 62 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:03,391 It's really just about 63 00:03:03,516 --> 00:03:06,186 constantly thinking about it to get it right. 64 00:03:10,523 --> 00:03:12,483 ANTHONY: When did movies become your life? 65 00:03:13,735 --> 00:03:15,778 MICHAEL: I remember when I was around nine, 66 00:03:15,987 --> 00:03:18,448 I started falling in love with movies. 67 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:22,243 I would sneak tape recorders into theaters, 68 00:03:22,994 --> 00:03:24,871 recording every movie I saw. 69 00:03:28,333 --> 00:03:30,668 I had a little speaker I'd put under my pillow, 70 00:03:31,753 --> 00:03:33,546 and I would listen to those things 71 00:03:34,839 --> 00:03:36,758 over and over and over again. 72 00:03:38,593 --> 00:03:41,596 And then Dad gave me his old Regular 8mm Movie Camera. 73 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:44,474 We're saying three things we got for Christmas. 74 00:03:44,557 --> 00:03:47,560 A sound movie camera and a projector 75 00:03:47,644 --> 00:03:49,854 and lots of stuff that I can use in my movies. 76 00:03:52,857 --> 00:03:54,442 (BOY YELLING INDISTINCTLY) 77 00:03:54,525 --> 00:03:56,569 Right now, do your homework. 78 00:03:56,986 --> 00:03:59,405 ANTHONY: Yeah, this house was like your first film set. 79 00:03:59,781 --> 00:04:04,869 MICHAEL: I definitely treated the house as, like, my studio and back lot. 80 00:04:08,414 --> 00:04:11,000 That's the last time I ever get divorced. 81 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:13,920 We filmed in the kitchen. 82 00:04:16,506 --> 00:04:18,174 We would film in the patio. 83 00:04:18,258 --> 00:04:20,176 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 84 00:04:23,012 --> 00:04:24,973 We'd film in the basement. 85 00:04:25,181 --> 00:04:26,432 (SCREAMS) 86 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:29,185 Filmed in the backyard. 87 00:04:31,187 --> 00:04:32,438 Filmed on the roof. 88 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:41,364 There was no better thing to do than just make stuff with groups of people. 89 00:04:44,075 --> 00:04:45,368 Forget everything else 90 00:04:46,661 --> 00:04:50,164 and just be immersed in this crazy story, 91 00:04:51,833 --> 00:04:53,167 making movies. 92 00:04:55,336 --> 00:04:59,757 Hopefully, it all goes as smoothly 93 00:04:59,841 --> 00:05:03,052 as those old Super 8 movies did. 94 00:05:03,261 --> 00:05:04,721 (ANTHONY LAUGHS) 95 00:05:10,226 --> 00:05:12,437 ANTHONY: I know Michael and I are leaving for Atlanta soon. 96 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,898 But before we go, can I sit down with you guys really quickly? 97 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:17,817 JOSEPHINE: Yes, of course. 98 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:19,235 Uh-huh. 99 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,778 ANTHONY: How's that coffee? 100 00:05:21,070 --> 00:05:23,614 Yeah, I can stand more in here because it's a little light, 101 00:05:23,698 --> 00:05:25,575 but I can stand more if you have it. 102 00:05:25,783 --> 00:05:27,118 Here, you want mine? 103 00:05:27,201 --> 00:05:29,412 No, no, I just... Make it a little... 104 00:05:29,537 --> 00:05:30,663 Here. I have more. 105 00:05:30,788 --> 00:05:32,373 Okay, we're good. We just... 106 00:05:32,915 --> 00:05:34,292 -ANTHONY: Yeah? -Yeah. 107 00:05:34,459 --> 00:05:37,628 ANTHONY: Okay. So I was trying to sum up Michael's career, 108 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:41,174 I put something together and I'm wondering, 109 00:05:41,257 --> 00:05:42,842 you know, maybe would you read it? 110 00:05:42,925 --> 00:05:44,260 BOTH: Sure. 111 00:05:45,636 --> 00:05:47,263 Mm-hmm. 112 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:49,807 -ANTHONY: No, no, no. Read it out loud. -Okay. 113 00:05:50,641 --> 00:05:53,644 (EPIC MUSIC PLAYING) 114 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:59,484 Michael Giacchino grew up in Edgewater Park, New Jersey. 115 00:06:00,777 --> 00:06:05,323 He majored in film production at the School of Visual Arts in New York City. 116 00:06:06,115 --> 00:06:09,035 And studied music at Juilliard in his free time. 117 00:06:09,952 --> 00:06:12,497 An early job in video game production 118 00:06:12,580 --> 00:06:18,336 led him to composing the score for several of Steven Spielberg's video games. 119 00:06:18,503 --> 00:06:20,588 I don't... You know... To me... 120 00:06:20,671 --> 00:06:22,423 Okay, this is a regular bio. 121 00:06:22,548 --> 00:06:26,344 But he works very hard, he's generous. 122 00:06:26,427 --> 00:06:30,807 I think he's creative, not just in music but in many things. 123 00:06:30,890 --> 00:06:33,267 In fact, I was going to say, were you going to mention 124 00:06:33,351 --> 00:06:36,437 that cartoon he drew for his first communion? 125 00:06:39,607 --> 00:06:42,527 His work caught the attention of J.J. Abrams, 126 00:06:42,610 --> 00:06:47,031 who asked him to compose for his TV shows, Alias and Lost. 127 00:06:47,615 --> 00:06:48,991 Since that time, 128 00:06:49,158 --> 00:06:50,868 Giacchino has gone on to score 129 00:06:50,952 --> 00:06:54,997 some of the most popular and acclaimed films in recent history. 130 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:58,126 "His credits include The Batman, 131 00:06:58,209 --> 00:07:00,878 "the MCU Spider-Man trilogy..." 132 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:02,755 MCU? 133 00:07:03,965 --> 00:07:06,300 I know what the Spider-Man trilogy is. 134 00:07:06,426 --> 00:07:09,720 MCU is "Marvel Cinematic Universe." 135 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:11,806 Ah, okay. 136 00:07:11,889 --> 00:07:16,185 So Batman doesn't belong to the Marvel Cinematic Universe? 137 00:07:16,811 --> 00:07:17,979 No. 138 00:07:18,771 --> 00:07:21,524 Batman is in DC. DC Comics. 139 00:07:22,692 --> 00:07:24,110 Oh. 140 00:07:24,193 --> 00:07:25,862 -Yeah. -Okay. 141 00:07:27,572 --> 00:07:28,781 "...The Incredibles, 142 00:07:28,865 --> 00:07:31,492 "Jojo Rabbit, Ratatouille, 143 00:07:31,576 --> 00:07:32,577 "Up, 144 00:07:32,743 --> 00:07:33,911 "Star Trek, 145 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,039 "and Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. 146 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:40,418 "His list of awards includes three GRAMMYs, 147 00:07:40,501 --> 00:07:45,465 an Emmy, a Golden Globe, a BAFTA and an Academy Award." 148 00:07:46,966 --> 00:07:49,927 Yeah. I mean, if that's... You know, that's a short bio 149 00:07:50,636 --> 00:07:53,181 of his accomplishments. 150 00:07:53,264 --> 00:07:54,390 Yeah, I would say. 151 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:56,100 A lot of times, you see 152 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:59,437 your family, it was something like that. They mentioned that. 153 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,646 Dad, don't worry. 154 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:02,732 I think that there's going to be plenty of family. 155 00:08:02,815 --> 00:08:04,901 Yes, there'll be plenty of... 156 00:08:04,984 --> 00:08:07,195 -This is... -(ANTHONY LAUGHS) 157 00:08:11,908 --> 00:08:15,119 ANTHONY: Did you ever think you'd get a chance to direct a film like this? 158 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,083 MICHAEL: If I could go back and tell my 15-year-old self 159 00:08:21,417 --> 00:08:24,670 that I'd be directing a werewolf film for Marvel, 160 00:08:26,255 --> 00:08:28,341 my head would probably explode. 161 00:08:28,424 --> 00:08:30,051 (INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENT OVER PA) 162 00:08:32,053 --> 00:08:35,515 But right now I have a job to do, which is to tell this story. 163 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:38,476 And I got to figure it all out. 164 00:08:39,352 --> 00:08:42,230 (CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY) 165 00:08:42,313 --> 00:08:44,899 Over the years, I've been so lucky 166 00:08:44,982 --> 00:08:47,652 to work with some of the best directors in the business. 167 00:08:49,403 --> 00:08:51,697 They have been instrumental in helping me understand 168 00:08:51,781 --> 00:08:54,450 what it takes to mount a giant production like this. 169 00:08:57,245 --> 00:08:59,789 When I'm scoring a film, it's basically just me, 170 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:02,291 by myself, 171 00:09:03,626 --> 00:09:04,627 in a room. 172 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:07,505 When I'm directing, 173 00:09:07,588 --> 00:09:10,925 I'm going to be interfacing with many different disciplines. 174 00:09:11,801 --> 00:09:14,595 Writers, special effects people, actors... 175 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:20,351 I'm very excited, and hopefully everyone gets on board, 176 00:09:21,727 --> 00:09:25,147 but you just don't know if it's all going to work. 177 00:09:43,833 --> 00:09:45,334 How are we going to get out? 178 00:09:45,459 --> 00:09:47,670 -MAN: Action! -(ACTORS YELLING INDISTINCTLY) 179 00:09:55,511 --> 00:09:59,765 We used to do this, on our own, back home as kids. 180 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:11,986 All through high school, I worked as a janitor. 181 00:10:13,237 --> 00:10:14,947 It was great because I made money 182 00:10:15,031 --> 00:10:16,824 to buy film and to make movies. 183 00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:20,036 I'll make an example out of all those who would fight. 184 00:10:20,828 --> 00:10:21,829 BOY: Yes, sir. 185 00:10:27,084 --> 00:10:28,669 There's something I have to tell you. 186 00:10:29,211 --> 00:10:30,296 It's about the snake. 187 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,256 But you said it was just a legend, a myth. 188 00:10:33,049 --> 00:10:37,261 MICHAEL: All my friends were a huge part of pushing me forward. 189 00:10:38,012 --> 00:10:39,347 They were there to help, 190 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,265 do the things I wanted to do, 191 00:10:43,351 --> 00:10:45,061 make the things I wanted to make. 192 00:10:45,770 --> 00:10:49,690 And we did it in a very collaborative, fun way. 193 00:10:49,774 --> 00:10:51,150 (MAN SCREAMS) 194 00:10:53,235 --> 00:10:54,779 (SNARLS) 195 00:10:55,029 --> 00:10:56,906 The hair goes up into... 196 00:10:57,865 --> 00:10:59,033 The arms are there. 197 00:10:59,575 --> 00:11:01,577 Yo, vampire creatures have ear hair. 198 00:11:01,869 --> 00:11:03,746 -MAN: It happens to everyone. -Looks great. 199 00:11:05,748 --> 00:11:06,832 ANTHONY: It's really cool. 200 00:11:08,709 --> 00:11:10,628 What is it with you and monsters? 201 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:13,673 MICHAEL: I was always into the fantastical... 202 00:11:14,173 --> 00:11:15,257 That's craziness. 203 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:18,552 ...science fiction and horror films. 204 00:11:19,345 --> 00:11:21,263 And I love monsters. 205 00:11:22,098 --> 00:11:24,684 -I love this guy. -(PEOPLE LAUGHING) 206 00:11:27,770 --> 00:11:30,147 Monsters are struggling with something. 207 00:11:30,314 --> 00:11:33,567 There's something going on in their lives that they can't control, 208 00:11:34,193 --> 00:11:37,029 and they're trying to figure it out and make it work. 209 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:41,992 So that's basically... You'll get, you know, from the finger to there. 210 00:11:42,076 --> 00:11:44,620 So on me, that would be the insert arm. 211 00:11:44,954 --> 00:11:46,497 KEVIN FEIGE: Are you terrified yet? 212 00:11:46,580 --> 00:11:48,374 Wow. That's pretty scary. 213 00:11:48,457 --> 00:11:51,669 In a good way. I love that. 214 00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:54,547 MICHAEL: All of these monsters and creatures are allegories 215 00:11:54,630 --> 00:11:57,049 for the human hardships that we all go through. 216 00:11:57,174 --> 00:11:58,718 -Look at that. -All good. 217 00:11:58,884 --> 00:12:01,011 MICHAEL: I don't see it as just a thrill thing 218 00:12:01,095 --> 00:12:03,222 where it's like, "There's a crazy monster." 219 00:12:03,305 --> 00:12:04,849 To me, it's the exploration of 220 00:12:04,974 --> 00:12:08,310 how they cope with the demons in their life. 221 00:12:09,979 --> 00:12:13,983 Wow. Okay, that's freaking amazing. 222 00:12:14,650 --> 00:12:16,986 I used to be so afraid of Bigfoot as a kid growing up. 223 00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:19,780 Growing up in New Jersey, like, yeah, I was terrified. 224 00:12:19,864 --> 00:12:21,323 FEIGE: That's what terrified you? 225 00:12:21,407 --> 00:12:23,242 MICHAEL: Every night I'd have this ritual 226 00:12:23,325 --> 00:12:26,078 where I'd imagine that on the outside of the windows in my bedroom, 227 00:12:26,203 --> 00:12:28,038 -a blast shield would come down. -Yes. 228 00:12:28,122 --> 00:12:30,541 I'd have to go through this in my head every night. 229 00:12:30,624 --> 00:12:32,334 Okay, the blast shield's coming down, 230 00:12:32,418 --> 00:12:34,044 Bigfoot cannot reach his hand in, 231 00:12:34,170 --> 00:12:36,005 -I'm safe and then I can go to bed. -(LAUGHS) 232 00:12:37,339 --> 00:12:39,091 ANTHONY: What was scarier? Bigfoot, 233 00:12:39,383 --> 00:12:43,262 or when I asked if I could document you filming your first movie? 234 00:12:44,889 --> 00:12:47,475 MICHAEL: It's not at all scary that you're going to be 235 00:12:47,558 --> 00:12:49,268 walking around following me. 236 00:12:49,351 --> 00:12:51,312 You always had your camera with you. 237 00:12:51,395 --> 00:12:53,272 ANTHONY: What do you think of food in Little Italy? 238 00:12:53,355 --> 00:12:54,690 -Excellent. -ANTHONY: Excellent? 239 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:56,442 -What's the best place to go? -Angelo's. 240 00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:58,861 MICHAEL: Recording everything... 241 00:12:59,069 --> 00:13:00,696 WOMAN: She was like, "Cool, Michael." 242 00:13:00,780 --> 00:13:04,074 I'm talking to my prom date, my girlfriend. 243 00:13:05,326 --> 00:13:08,746 It was the kind of thing where you would bring it to the diner. 244 00:13:08,996 --> 00:13:10,331 Okay, what are you guys doin'? 245 00:13:10,956 --> 00:13:12,458 I'm becoming 20 at 12:00 tonight 246 00:13:12,541 --> 00:13:15,419 and I'm filming my last hours of my teenage years. 247 00:13:16,170 --> 00:13:18,380 This is my early German speaking days. 248 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:20,341 (SPEAKING GERMAN) 249 00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:24,094 MICHAEL: You've created this crazy, extensive archive of your life... 250 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:25,763 The most compelling speaker. 251 00:13:25,846 --> 00:13:28,307 We have mushrooms, olives, sausage, pepperoni. 252 00:13:28,390 --> 00:13:29,391 ...and our family. 253 00:13:29,475 --> 00:13:31,018 Hey, Anthony, is that our camera? 254 00:13:31,101 --> 00:13:32,186 That's my camera. 255 00:13:32,603 --> 00:13:36,857 ALL: (SINGING) Happy birthday, dear Michael 256 00:13:36,941 --> 00:13:38,234 MAN: So, you're almost 21. 257 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,152 Yeah, I'm getting old now. 258 00:13:42,488 --> 00:13:44,573 Hey, do you have a video camera stuck to your face? 259 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:46,075 Wait, let me try and get it off. 260 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,704 MICHAEL: The camera was ever-present. 261 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:51,997 Hello. 262 00:13:54,208 --> 00:13:55,876 You were just always there. 263 00:13:56,001 --> 00:13:57,962 ANTHONY: I'm filming the last part of it. 264 00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:03,717 MICHAEL: You're filming? Great. 265 00:14:03,801 --> 00:14:06,053 -Here comes the pain. -ANTHONY: I'm just curious. 266 00:14:06,136 --> 00:14:08,597 If you have a little light above you, can you put it on? 267 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,809 What do you mean, "Here comes the pain"? 268 00:14:11,892 --> 00:14:13,894 -(CHUCKLES) -What does that mean? 269 00:14:13,978 --> 00:14:15,312 Oh, brother. 270 00:14:15,563 --> 00:14:17,565 -The nudge. -The nudge. 271 00:14:17,648 --> 00:14:18,649 Oh, really. 272 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:21,902 So you don't feel any different today than yesterday? 273 00:14:22,236 --> 00:14:23,404 I feel tired. 274 00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:24,989 Getting up so early. 275 00:14:25,072 --> 00:14:26,574 ANTHONY: So that's it? Just tired? 276 00:14:26,657 --> 00:14:28,826 What do you want? Some big philosophical... 277 00:14:28,909 --> 00:14:31,036 ANTHONY: I'm just curious. I mean... Okay. 278 00:14:32,246 --> 00:14:35,541 I'm saying there's nothing for me to do until there's something to do. 279 00:14:35,624 --> 00:14:38,586 "Turn the camera this way. Say something this way." 280 00:14:38,669 --> 00:14:40,629 Right now, I'm in a car. 281 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:44,758 If we're lucky, we'll see a Sasquatch run across the road. 282 00:14:48,971 --> 00:14:52,850 I've been thinking about this thing for, like, two years. 283 00:14:59,315 --> 00:15:02,151 So, there's the cage. 284 00:15:02,526 --> 00:15:05,571 -That's where you're going to be put. -ANTHONY: Into the cage? 285 00:15:05,654 --> 00:15:07,323 -Yes. -WOMAN: Good morning. 286 00:15:07,573 --> 00:15:09,241 -Hey, good morning. -MICHAEL: Hi! 287 00:15:09,325 --> 00:15:10,993 -Leo. How are you? -Hi, Leo. 288 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:13,120 -Leo. You're playing... -Simon. 289 00:15:13,203 --> 00:15:14,204 Simon. 290 00:15:14,788 --> 00:15:16,206 ANTHONY: Looks pretty amazing. 291 00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:17,875 -MICHAEL: Yeah, right? -Yeah. 292 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:21,045 Yeah. It's... Oh, my God. 293 00:15:21,128 --> 00:15:22,880 -MICHAEL: Isn't that amazing? -Yeah. 294 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:24,965 MICHAEL: How are you doing? 295 00:15:25,090 --> 00:15:26,467 -Good morning. -How is everything? 296 00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:28,677 -First day. -Yeah, yeah. It's gonna be fun. 297 00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:29,929 This is our DP, Zoë White. 298 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:32,806 -ANTHONY: Oh, hey. -This is my brother, Anthony. 299 00:15:32,890 --> 00:15:35,726 -Hey, Anthony. So nice to meet you. -Good to meet you too. 300 00:15:35,809 --> 00:15:37,353 I'll try to stay out of your way. 301 00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:40,022 All right. Welcome to day one, guys, of Buzzcut. 302 00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:41,857 (ALL CHEERING) 303 00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:45,569 Just in case you don't know, 'cause a few of you guys have... 304 00:15:45,653 --> 00:15:47,446 There's Michael, our director. 305 00:15:47,738 --> 00:15:50,240 (ALL CHEERING) 306 00:15:50,866 --> 00:15:51,867 I look good? 307 00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:54,119 -WOMAN: You look fantastic. -I look fantastic. 308 00:15:54,244 --> 00:15:55,371 WOMAN: You look wonderful. 309 00:15:58,874 --> 00:16:01,627 (CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY) 310 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:07,591 -Just like that. -MICHAEL: Are you okay today? 311 00:16:07,758 --> 00:16:11,095 ANTHONY: This is the first take of the film. 312 00:16:11,178 --> 00:16:12,304 (MICHAEL AND WOMAN LAUGHING) 313 00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:13,764 ANTHONY: Michael's first. 314 00:16:15,015 --> 00:16:16,934 Family history, this is momentous. 315 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:18,978 WOMAN: Here we go. 316 00:16:19,478 --> 00:16:21,939 -Let's go on the bell. -(BELL RINGS) 317 00:16:22,272 --> 00:16:23,440 MICHAEL: All right. Action. 318 00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:30,823 Yeah. That's great. 319 00:16:30,906 --> 00:16:31,907 MICHAEL: Cut. WOMAN: Nice. 320 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:32,992 -Cool. -WOMAN: Cutting. 321 00:16:33,158 --> 00:16:34,618 (BELL RINGS) 322 00:16:35,119 --> 00:16:37,371 The music turns, we have a crescendo, 323 00:16:37,454 --> 00:16:39,873 so the peaks and valleys get bigger and bigger. 324 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:41,000 Thank you. 325 00:16:42,292 --> 00:16:44,420 -This is my brother, Anthony. -How's it going? 326 00:16:44,545 --> 00:16:46,046 -Anthony, Gael. -Nice to meet you. 327 00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:48,465 -ANTHONY: Great to meet you. -Nice to meet you as well. 328 00:16:48,549 --> 00:16:49,967 -All good? -Yeah. 329 00:16:50,050 --> 00:16:52,177 -Let me know if I'm in your way. -Yeah. 330 00:16:53,595 --> 00:16:57,182 Note to self. Stay out of cast and crew's way. 331 00:16:57,266 --> 00:16:58,809 -(THUD) -Oh. 332 00:16:58,892 --> 00:17:00,561 (BELL RINGING) 333 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,272 ANTHONY: Where is that bell? 334 00:17:05,899 --> 00:17:08,318 (MAN SCREAMING) 335 00:17:12,573 --> 00:17:13,574 MICHAEL: Cutting. 336 00:17:14,324 --> 00:17:16,035 (BELL RINGS) 337 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,412 ANTHONY: What was that about? 338 00:17:18,495 --> 00:17:21,040 -What was what? -You were... 339 00:17:21,123 --> 00:17:22,458 Oh, that's just a cut. 340 00:17:22,541 --> 00:17:24,543 So you ring it twice for cut cut. 341 00:17:25,252 --> 00:17:26,670 You think I can flip that switch? 342 00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:30,841 Uh, I have to wait for her to say, "On the bell," then I ring it. 343 00:17:30,924 --> 00:17:33,260 Next time she says, "On the bell," can I do it? 344 00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:35,387 Yes. 345 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:38,724 (CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY) 346 00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:43,062 -Hey, is that it? -No, not yet. 347 00:17:44,271 --> 00:17:46,523 Do I have to go just like... (EXCLAIMS) Like you did? 348 00:17:46,607 --> 00:17:47,691 MAN: No, that's only for cuts. 349 00:17:47,775 --> 00:17:50,444 For roll, when she says, "On the bell," 350 00:17:50,527 --> 00:17:52,905 you just flip it once and then it just goes off. 351 00:17:52,988 --> 00:17:55,741 ANTHONY: Right, so I flip it and then just leave it there. 352 00:17:56,075 --> 00:17:59,119 -Yeah, exactly. (CHUCKLES) -Okay. 353 00:17:59,203 --> 00:18:01,914 -So when is that going to happen? -I'll let you know. 354 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:04,166 WOMAN: Quiet, please. 355 00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:06,210 All right, everybody ready? 356 00:18:07,461 --> 00:18:09,338 -I think everybody, yeah. -Whole shot. 357 00:18:09,671 --> 00:18:10,714 We're about to. 358 00:18:11,632 --> 00:18:14,093 All right. Thank you. Let's go on the bell, please. 359 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:16,178 On the bell, please. 360 00:18:16,428 --> 00:18:18,347 MAN: Go on the bell. Go on the bell. 361 00:18:18,555 --> 00:18:20,099 (BELL RINGS) 362 00:18:21,725 --> 00:18:23,644 -That's it? -You just want to do it quicker. 363 00:18:24,353 --> 00:18:25,604 -Put it down? -No, no, no. 364 00:18:25,687 --> 00:18:27,564 WOMAN: Rolling! MICHAEL: And action! 365 00:18:27,731 --> 00:18:30,567 Ulysses Bloodstone. 366 00:18:30,734 --> 00:18:31,902 ANTHONY: Just like... 367 00:18:32,277 --> 00:18:34,321 No, just like, one, two. 368 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:35,531 ANTHONY: Just one, two? 369 00:18:35,739 --> 00:18:37,741 Yeah, and then it's in off position at the end. 370 00:18:37,866 --> 00:18:39,034 ANTHONY: Okay. 371 00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:40,244 More like... Deet-deet. 372 00:18:40,369 --> 00:18:44,248 He orchestrated his presence in other ways. 373 00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:47,334 MICHAEL: Cut! 374 00:18:47,501 --> 00:18:48,752 -Cut, cut. -WOMAN: Cutting. 375 00:18:49,419 --> 00:18:50,754 (BELL RINGS) 376 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:53,966 Is that right? 377 00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:56,760 A little long, but close. 378 00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:58,846 WOMAN: Let's shoot a clean plate. 379 00:18:58,929 --> 00:19:01,014 So let's lock up the hallway as fast as we can. 380 00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:03,058 Please, guys, I need to do a new plate. 381 00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:05,894 Okay. So that's what we're gonna do, guys. 382 00:19:06,061 --> 00:19:07,688 ANTHONY: Dude, your job is crucial. 383 00:19:07,771 --> 00:19:09,523 -Oh, yeah? -ANTHONY: I mean, it is. 384 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:13,026 You ring the thing, and then everybody knows they're filming. 385 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:15,404 Exactly, and it also turns the lights on outside. 386 00:19:16,572 --> 00:19:18,282 People know not to come in. 387 00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,996 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 388 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:29,751 ANTHONY: So what's the reaction been around here? 389 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:34,214 Are people surprised that you've made the jump from composing to directing? 390 00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:38,302 MICHAEL: Everyone on the crew, 391 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:40,762 they know that I'm a film composer. 392 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:45,601 But they know that I'm interested in more than just writing music. 393 00:19:48,228 --> 00:19:51,481 We talk about movies all the time, not just the movies we're working on. 394 00:19:51,565 --> 00:19:53,692 We geek out about Star Trek and Star Wars. 395 00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:57,571 And we talk about Harryhausen films, King Kong, 396 00:19:57,654 --> 00:19:59,573 all of the old Universal monster movies. 397 00:19:59,656 --> 00:20:00,657 HARRIS: ...for the hunt. 398 00:20:00,741 --> 00:20:03,827 They were these incredibly moody, black and white, 399 00:20:03,911 --> 00:20:06,079 beautifully photographed films... 400 00:20:06,163 --> 00:20:07,164 HARRIS: To rid this land... 401 00:20:07,247 --> 00:20:10,167 ...that are really helping shape what this is. 402 00:20:10,292 --> 00:20:12,211 ACTORS: There is no peace without blood. 403 00:20:14,254 --> 00:20:17,966 MICHAEL: We're going to turn the tables on old Anthony here. 404 00:20:18,592 --> 00:20:20,344 ANTHONY: Uh-oh. 405 00:20:20,427 --> 00:20:23,305 What's better, filming films set documentaries 406 00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:25,557 or real life documentaries? 407 00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:27,684 Well, this is a real life documentary. 408 00:20:27,809 --> 00:20:29,436 Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, it is. 409 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:30,646 (LAUGHS) 410 00:20:31,855 --> 00:20:33,023 WOMAN: Camera. 411 00:20:38,153 --> 00:20:39,488 MICHAEL: And cut. 412 00:20:39,988 --> 00:20:41,740 -And that is it. -WOMAN: Cutting. 413 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:43,283 Thank you, everyone. 414 00:20:43,659 --> 00:20:46,995 (TUBA PLAYING) 415 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:52,793 (ALL CLAPPING) 416 00:20:59,841 --> 00:21:02,135 MAN 1: Can you just get that out of the shot 417 00:21:02,219 --> 00:21:03,887 -so I can get a clean cut? -WOMAN: Yeah. 418 00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:05,347 CAREY JONES: We'll get him in there, 419 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:07,224 take a look at him, make sure he's all good 420 00:21:07,307 --> 00:21:09,768 -and we can put that hand wherever. -Wherever. 421 00:21:09,851 --> 00:21:11,603 And then I'll just come over with that hand 422 00:21:11,728 --> 00:21:13,105 so I can get all the way out. 423 00:21:13,188 --> 00:21:16,233 -(SCREAMS) -(BELL RINGS) 424 00:21:16,316 --> 00:21:19,152 WOMAN: Ian's camera for the hand. Sure. MICHAEL: Right. Yeah. 425 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:22,197 -ANTHONY: Are you wearing the costume? -He's Man-Thing. 426 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:24,157 -You are? -He's gonna play Man-Thing. 427 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:27,369 ...while being in the middle, or having one foot on the other side. 428 00:21:27,452 --> 00:21:28,620 JONES: What I'd do as a kid, 429 00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:31,581 I would make costumes with makeup and film myself 430 00:21:32,666 --> 00:21:34,084 acting like these creatures. 431 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:35,794 -WOMAN 1: Carey, are you ready? -Yup. 432 00:21:35,877 --> 00:21:37,212 -All right. -WOMAN 2: And action! 433 00:21:38,672 --> 00:21:41,049 -To do it as an adult... -MICHAEL: It's so fun. 434 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:43,218 -It's a childhood dream. -(LAUGHS) 435 00:21:46,346 --> 00:21:47,556 MICHAEL: You'll signal him. 436 00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,349 And you'll signal the tuba player. 437 00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:51,768 The camera's gonna be looking straight down into here, 438 00:21:51,893 --> 00:21:54,313 and imagine you're gonna hear Man-Thing yelling. 439 00:21:55,105 --> 00:21:57,316 ANTHONY: So how did you get to direct Werewolf by Night? 440 00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:58,817 MICHAEL: How did I get to direct? 441 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,944 ANTHONY: Yeah, what's the story? How did that happen? 442 00:22:03,363 --> 00:22:06,366 MICHAEL: I have worked on a bunch of Marvel projects. 443 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,618 -That's the ceiling? -Yeah. 444 00:22:08,702 --> 00:22:09,703 That's amazing. 445 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,164 I feel like I've become part of that family there. 446 00:22:12,831 --> 00:22:14,249 I love working with them. 447 00:22:16,418 --> 00:22:18,045 Lots of... Just different versions. 448 00:22:18,128 --> 00:22:20,380 That's... This one, right? That's great. 449 00:22:20,464 --> 00:22:22,466 So this really feels like he got hit. 450 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:24,217 I'd look at so many of them as, 451 00:22:24,551 --> 00:22:28,638 you guys would have been part of our filmmaking team as kids 452 00:22:28,722 --> 00:22:30,599 if we had all grown up together. 453 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:32,976 -This is good? -Yup. 454 00:22:33,101 --> 00:22:36,646 Like, these are grown versions of us. 455 00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:37,981 And then straight across. 456 00:22:41,318 --> 00:22:43,653 And then I was just talking with Kevin one day, 457 00:22:43,737 --> 00:22:46,073 and he was like, "There's a lot happening. 458 00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:50,327 "If there was anything you'd want to direct, what would you want to do?" 459 00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:54,664 I remember saying, "I like the fringe characters. 460 00:22:55,415 --> 00:22:57,751 "I like the ones that are off the beaten path." 461 00:22:58,502 --> 00:23:00,754 You can do more interesting things with them. 462 00:23:02,089 --> 00:23:03,757 So, Werewolf by Night... 463 00:23:05,425 --> 00:23:07,219 It was a comic book I had as a kid. 464 00:23:07,302 --> 00:23:08,970 Marvel comic. I loved it. 465 00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:12,557 He looked at me like, "Werewolf by Night? 466 00:23:12,641 --> 00:23:14,017 "Wow. Okay." 467 00:23:17,479 --> 00:23:19,439 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 468 00:23:19,523 --> 00:23:20,774 JOSEPHINE: Hello? 469 00:23:20,982 --> 00:23:22,192 Hey, Mom. 470 00:23:22,317 --> 00:23:23,527 Hi, Dad. 471 00:23:23,985 --> 00:23:26,113 JOSEPHINE: You shouldn't be talking if you're driving. 472 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:27,989 Well, Mom... 473 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:29,825 You're distracted. You're talking. I know. 474 00:23:29,908 --> 00:23:31,910 -I'm not distracted. -Okay. 475 00:23:31,993 --> 00:23:36,081 Anyway, I'm like eyes on the ground here. 476 00:23:36,456 --> 00:23:38,208 Michael directing a movie. 477 00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:41,670 Do you have any questions for me about what it's like? 478 00:23:41,753 --> 00:23:43,630 I can tell you whatever you want. 479 00:23:45,215 --> 00:23:47,968 I mean, how do you think he's doing? 480 00:23:48,051 --> 00:23:51,221 -(YELLING) -ALL: And so it shall be. 481 00:23:51,304 --> 00:23:53,807 -(HOWLING) -And so it shall be. 482 00:23:54,683 --> 00:23:57,644 -And so it shall be. -(TUBA PLAYING) 483 00:23:58,728 --> 00:24:00,439 I think he is doing great. 484 00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:03,900 And so, how is your film going? 485 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,485 My film... 486 00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:09,865 MAN: I'm wondering why you find the wall so interesting. 487 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,909 I like these little security signs. 488 00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:15,120 I think they're funny. 489 00:24:15,954 --> 00:24:17,330 Uh-huh. 490 00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:19,291 ANTHONY: You know, Michael made this one. 491 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,751 Yeah, that's cool. 492 00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:23,920 -Yeah. -Yeah. 493 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:27,007 ANTHONY: I think it's good, so far. 494 00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:29,134 All right. So far, so good. 495 00:24:29,259 --> 00:24:30,635 Yeah, it's fun. 496 00:24:31,052 --> 00:24:34,556 I mean, you know, I get to see Michael on set. 497 00:24:35,223 --> 00:24:39,060 JOSEPHINE: Does he say, "Camera, action, click?" 498 00:24:40,437 --> 00:24:41,438 ANTHONY: "Click"? 499 00:24:42,063 --> 00:24:44,608 -I mean... -You know, the board that... 500 00:24:44,691 --> 00:24:47,444 You ever see those boards they snap, "Okay." 501 00:24:48,111 --> 00:24:50,197 -Oh, yes. Right, right. Okay. -Yeah. 502 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,324 He doesn't say click, but the board goes click. 503 00:24:52,532 --> 00:24:54,367 Yes, they have one of those. 504 00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:58,580 JOSEPHINE: You know he does very well with music, 505 00:24:59,623 --> 00:25:02,584 but this is a new gig, so this would be different. 506 00:25:03,084 --> 00:25:04,544 -Yes. -You know. 507 00:25:04,794 --> 00:25:08,215 And as a kid, he enjoyed filming and directing. 508 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:09,758 This is what we're going to do. 509 00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:11,885 Just... We're going to start from here. 510 00:25:11,968 --> 00:25:13,136 Take one. 511 00:25:13,637 --> 00:25:15,889 JOSEPHINE: But, that's as a kid. 512 00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:22,687 I can remember, 513 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,065 we took a trip to California. 514 00:25:25,815 --> 00:25:27,609 No, Anthony. Give it to me, please. 515 00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:29,402 We'll be there in an hour. 516 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,154 ANTHONY: Mike, are you filming this? 517 00:25:31,738 --> 00:25:34,032 MICHAEL: Here we are in California, 518 00:25:34,157 --> 00:25:36,201 Hollywood Boulevard. 519 00:25:36,284 --> 00:25:38,078 You're seeing it here first, folks. 520 00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:41,122 JOSEPHINE: We went to Universal Studios. 521 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:44,376 MAN: We're going to take a spin 522 00:25:44,459 --> 00:25:47,087 through our front lot where we have our sound stages. 523 00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:50,465 JOSEPHINE: Michael, he was like, ecstatic. 524 00:25:52,008 --> 00:25:54,135 Movies were his passion. 525 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,097 ANTHONY: At Universal Studios, 526 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:58,598 Michael was picked. 527 00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:00,225 -MR. GIACCHINO: Oh, yeah. Twice. -Twice. 528 00:26:00,308 --> 00:26:01,935 To demonstrate how you make movies. 529 00:26:02,018 --> 00:26:03,603 JOSEPHINE: They asked for volunteers 530 00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:05,689 and he raised his hand and they picked him. 531 00:26:05,814 --> 00:26:07,399 MAN: We've got Michael from New Jersey... 532 00:26:07,482 --> 00:26:08,900 JOSEPHINE: And he loved it. 533 00:26:09,025 --> 00:26:11,403 He thought it was the greatest thing. 534 00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:14,823 MAN: Thank you. That's what you got to do. Perfect. 535 00:26:15,615 --> 00:26:18,868 MR. GIACCHINO: That was great. It was an important milestone in his life. 536 00:26:21,204 --> 00:26:24,165 ANTHONY: It seemed like somehow he knew his path 537 00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:26,626 and he would grab the chances that he had. 538 00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:35,385 ANTHONY: Today's important because... 539 00:26:35,468 --> 00:26:37,387 Well, every day is important. 540 00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:38,805 MICHAEL: Every day is important. 541 00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:41,099 But today is cool. 542 00:26:41,182 --> 00:26:42,309 MAN: Today's Thursday. 543 00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:45,854 Today's... (CHUCKLES) Yes, today is Thursday. 544 00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:51,359 (SCREAMING) 545 00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:55,030 (ALL LAUGHING) 546 00:26:55,238 --> 00:26:56,573 MICHAEL: And cut. 547 00:26:57,699 --> 00:26:59,576 -That was pretty good. -WOMAN: That was awesome. 548 00:26:59,659 --> 00:27:01,745 Definitely. You got to come back. 'Cause... 549 00:27:01,828 --> 00:27:03,371 He is going to be great. 550 00:27:04,873 --> 00:27:07,334 Look, there's Carey putting in the hand right now. 551 00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:09,127 That's cool. 552 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:12,047 That's the kind of thing that we all wish we had as a kid 553 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:14,424 to use in our movies that we made when we were little. 554 00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:16,051 ANTHONY: Yeah, that would've been difficult. 555 00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:17,135 -Just... -Oh, yeah. 556 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:23,975 MICHAEL: When we were kids, I had a Super 8 camera. 557 00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:29,522 Most people use their Super 8 cameras to film their kids swimming in the pool, 558 00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:31,775 or going to the beach or whatever, and that's fine. 559 00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:33,360 But what we were doing was... 560 00:27:35,445 --> 00:27:36,613 making movies. 561 00:27:38,948 --> 00:27:41,034 As a kid, you have to solve every single problem. 562 00:27:42,035 --> 00:27:44,037 From coming up with the story 563 00:27:44,162 --> 00:27:46,081 to shooting it, lighting it, 564 00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:47,499 animating it. 565 00:27:47,916 --> 00:27:49,876 You are doing everything. 566 00:27:51,753 --> 00:27:52,962 None of us were experienced. 567 00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:55,173 We were just making it up as we went along, 568 00:27:55,632 --> 00:27:57,133 based on things we saw. 569 00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:07,102 ANTHONY: Did you know Michael used to make movies when he was a kid? 570 00:28:07,185 --> 00:28:08,228 I did not know that. 571 00:28:08,895 --> 00:28:10,397 (CHUCKLES) 572 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,648 This is awesome. 573 00:28:11,731 --> 00:28:13,650 We got the special effects in there. 574 00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:16,361 Now we're just doing it on a bigger scale. That's amazing. 575 00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:19,781 MICHAEL: As a kid, there were books you could find at the library 576 00:28:19,864 --> 00:28:21,116 about filmmaking, 577 00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:22,575 there were magazines. 578 00:28:23,952 --> 00:28:25,412 They were very hard to find. 579 00:28:26,287 --> 00:28:28,081 You had to hunt those down and find them. 580 00:28:28,581 --> 00:28:30,875 BRIAN GAY: We got a good group of friends running around, 581 00:28:30,959 --> 00:28:32,544 there's lots of action going on. 582 00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:37,465 A lot of wides, you can see everything. (LAUGHS) 583 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,718 MICHAEL: And it wasn't easy. You were a kid. 584 00:28:39,843 --> 00:28:41,177 -Michael. -Hi. 585 00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:42,804 We weren't gonna drive anywhere, 586 00:28:42,887 --> 00:28:44,264 you had to be taken there. 587 00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:49,018 And you would be begging your parents to drive you somewhere 588 00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:51,146 to go and get whatever it is you needed. 589 00:28:52,605 --> 00:28:54,315 ANTHONY: And those shots, on top of the... 590 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,526 We were holding onto the car and he's just driving 591 00:28:56,609 --> 00:28:58,361 with Michael holding the camera. 592 00:28:58,528 --> 00:29:00,155 ANTHONY: I wanna say that, like, you know... 593 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:02,240 Now that I'm a parent. 594 00:29:02,490 --> 00:29:04,117 I mean, like some of this stuff 595 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,203 is a little, maybe a little questionable. 596 00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:12,792 When you're growing up, you know, especially this time without cell phones, 597 00:29:13,126 --> 00:29:16,379 you're kind of doing what you're doing, your parents don't even know. 598 00:29:16,463 --> 00:29:20,967 I'd like to dedicate this explosion to every movie from MGG Studios. 599 00:29:21,259 --> 00:29:22,302 I'm glad I lived. 600 00:29:22,427 --> 00:29:25,597 MICHAEL: If I wanted to make a character shooting a laser gun, 601 00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:29,350 you'd have to physically scratch the film. 602 00:29:30,143 --> 00:29:32,729 You'd have to be very careful, and I had an X-ACTO knife. 603 00:29:33,396 --> 00:29:35,356 And there's no undo button. 604 00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:38,526 Once you scratch that film, that's it, that's scratched, 605 00:29:39,569 --> 00:29:43,865 and you had to sit there for hours and hours and hours and hours. 606 00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:45,492 (ALL CHEERING) 607 00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:51,372 ANTHONY: What are you gonna be grilling? 608 00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:53,124 Hamburgers, hot dogs, 609 00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:55,543 turkey burgers, beef burgers. 610 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,504 ANTHONY: Is it hard to feed so many people? 611 00:29:57,837 --> 00:29:59,589 -No. No. -No? 612 00:29:59,923 --> 00:30:02,842 Four hundred, five hundred, six hundred. It doesn't matter. 613 00:30:03,176 --> 00:30:04,886 How does that not stress you out? 614 00:30:05,053 --> 00:30:06,429 I love to see people eat. 615 00:30:07,514 --> 00:30:11,059 ANTHONY: I can tell you, we do not eat like this on documentary shoots. 616 00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:12,185 CARROLL: Right? 617 00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:16,689 ANTHONY: So what have you learned about... 618 00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:19,150 the documentary filmmaking process? 619 00:30:19,442 --> 00:30:21,444 What have I learned about the documentary? 620 00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:23,404 ANTHONY: Yes, I'm curious! 621 00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:25,073 Not this doc but just... 622 00:30:25,198 --> 00:30:26,241 I'm just curious. 623 00:30:29,410 --> 00:30:31,412 MICHAEL: Making a documentary is very different 624 00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:34,040 from making a feature film or a fictional film. 625 00:30:34,374 --> 00:30:36,459 -So... Can I borrow this for a sec? -Yeah. 626 00:30:36,918 --> 00:30:38,044 In fiction movies, 627 00:30:38,461 --> 00:30:40,630 you know what you need to get every day. 628 00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,715 We're chopping off arms today. 629 00:30:43,049 --> 00:30:44,217 You know what you're doing. 630 00:30:44,467 --> 00:30:46,052 We're going to go... 631 00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:49,138 -Every step is going to be very careful. -DONNELLY: Okay. 632 00:30:49,889 --> 00:30:52,642 MICHAEL: You can get it. You can put it together as you go. 633 00:30:53,768 --> 00:30:56,187 (GRUNTING) 634 00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:01,734 MICHAEL: Great. Yeah. 635 00:31:02,485 --> 00:31:03,695 Excellent. Cut. 636 00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:04,946 -Nice. -Cool. 637 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:06,447 WOMAN: Cutting. Cut. 638 00:31:06,948 --> 00:31:08,616 MICHAEL: It feels like on a documentary... 639 00:31:09,951 --> 00:31:11,494 ANTHONY: This poor soul, this guy. 640 00:31:11,578 --> 00:31:13,663 He's been here for the last three days. 641 00:31:13,746 --> 00:31:15,915 ...you have no idea what you need. 642 00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:17,876 You don't know how to always get it... 643 00:31:18,042 --> 00:31:19,752 ANTHONY: Gotta step up with him also. 644 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:23,214 ...and you're constantly in the dark looking for the light switch. 645 00:31:23,298 --> 00:31:25,675 ANTHONY: I just want to say, I'm a little worried about this guy. 646 00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:28,761 Yeah, this guy was supposed to be in Guardians of the Galaxy 3, 647 00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:30,680 but we pulled him beforehand. So... 648 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:32,599 MICHAEL: That's what it feels like. 649 00:31:32,807 --> 00:31:34,517 You're always looking for the way out. 650 00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:36,352 ANTHONY: That's right. And in your case, 651 00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:38,062 you actually have a script. 652 00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:41,941 And you can write your characters out of any kind of situation they're in. 653 00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,234 MICHAEL: Yes. 654 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:44,903 FORD: You don't know who he's looking for. 655 00:31:44,986 --> 00:31:46,821 -Yeah. -He's looking for somebody, 656 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:48,364 -and he's worried about them. -Yup. 657 00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:50,283 And then the whole thing is, it unpeels, 658 00:31:50,366 --> 00:31:51,910 "Oh, shit. It's a monster hunt." 659 00:31:51,993 --> 00:31:53,661 -Yeah. That's great. -GAY: But like, 660 00:31:53,786 --> 00:31:56,205 do we hear the roar or trees falling down, and he's like, 661 00:31:56,289 --> 00:31:57,957 "Oh, man. They're on the way." 662 00:31:58,082 --> 00:32:01,419 And then he has the beat where it won't stick, or it won't do it... 663 00:32:01,502 --> 00:32:04,339 I was wondering if we hear another groan from Man-Thing, 664 00:32:04,422 --> 00:32:06,841 and then off that look, she's like, 665 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:08,718 "Go for it. That's where the wall is." 666 00:32:08,801 --> 00:32:12,096 FORD: Yeah. It just feel like this scene could be a lot shorter. 667 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:14,599 She's sort of setting up things that are about to happen, 668 00:32:14,682 --> 00:32:16,893 that she's going to set up again in the cell. 669 00:32:16,976 --> 00:32:18,645 But I'm just trying to figure out... 670 00:32:18,728 --> 00:32:22,357 If I'm Jack and I get to the wall, let's say everything's going right, 671 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,318 I'm like, "When do I start it? What do I do?" Do I like... 672 00:32:25,401 --> 00:32:26,611 I honestly think he goes, 673 00:32:26,694 --> 00:32:28,571 "Do you know how to use this?" She goes, "No. 674 00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:31,449 "I think whatever you throw it at, it'll just stick on." 675 00:32:31,532 --> 00:32:33,242 -QUINN: Yeah. Yeah. -You know what I mean? 676 00:32:33,743 --> 00:32:37,080 Okay, and then that's when you get the throwing and it bounces off, 677 00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:39,165 because we're so used to that in movies. 678 00:32:40,249 --> 00:32:41,626 MICHAEL: Please. 679 00:32:41,709 --> 00:32:44,170 ANTHONY: I don't remember such detailed discussions 680 00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:46,923 before exploding something in one of your old movies. 681 00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:50,301 You know, I used to put a piece of wood with firecrackers 682 00:32:50,385 --> 00:32:52,845 and then a bunch of ketchup packets... 683 00:32:53,012 --> 00:32:54,806 -WOMAN: Oh, my God. -...on his chest. 684 00:32:55,598 --> 00:32:56,849 FORD: Not your own? 685 00:32:56,933 --> 00:32:58,559 No, no. He was the test subject. 686 00:33:00,436 --> 00:33:02,021 You know, we had access to fireworks, 687 00:33:03,398 --> 00:33:04,440 when we were kids. 688 00:33:06,025 --> 00:33:08,277 One of the things I loved in Raiders of the Lost Ark 689 00:33:08,361 --> 00:33:10,405 was learning about how they used those squibs. 690 00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:13,032 A small little explosive packet. 691 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,493 Maybe a blood packet would go off. 692 00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,870 Maybe it's just a flash or something. 693 00:33:18,037 --> 00:33:19,038 A marker. 694 00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:21,624 Okay, so you're going to come out this way, 695 00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:24,127 come to a skidding stop. 696 00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:27,880 There's the wall. There's the crack. 697 00:33:30,049 --> 00:33:31,092 The squibs, 698 00:33:31,676 --> 00:33:33,428 I was like, "How do we make those?" 699 00:33:33,553 --> 00:33:36,889 I would watch those making of things on PBS, 700 00:33:37,056 --> 00:33:38,766 over and over, and I'd record them. 701 00:33:38,891 --> 00:33:40,601 She tells you throw it at the wall. 702 00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:42,562 Whatever you throw it at, it's going to stick. 703 00:33:43,312 --> 00:33:44,480 And you throw it at it. 704 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:47,150 But it doesn't. 705 00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:52,196 I thought I could get a bottle cap. 706 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:57,493 I thought if we emptied those fireworks into the bottle cap and light the fuse 707 00:33:57,577 --> 00:34:00,121 and then it would go off, that worked. 708 00:34:00,204 --> 00:34:01,956 I mean, that's what we did on your shoulder 709 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,708 when you woke up in Time Sleeper. 710 00:34:03,791 --> 00:34:05,668 ANTHONY: I didn't remember that's how that was done. 711 00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:08,463 MICHAEL: Yeah, got one take of it. Not the greatest, but it works. 712 00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:09,630 And action. 713 00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:14,469 At that point, it will just bounce off. 714 00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,598 The thing is still ticking, and you're like, "What the hell?" 715 00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:22,685 I remember just pushing the limits of everything we had 716 00:34:22,769 --> 00:34:23,853 to see what we could do. 717 00:34:24,854 --> 00:34:25,855 Try it again. 718 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,608 Try it a couple times, and then eventually you're just gonna 719 00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:30,943 shove it into one of the cracks. 720 00:34:31,444 --> 00:34:32,570 And that was the fun of it. 721 00:34:32,653 --> 00:34:33,780 WOMAN: Quiet on stage, guys. 722 00:34:33,863 --> 00:34:36,616 MICHAEL: The point of making movies, put something up on screen... 723 00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:38,826 Three, two, one, action. 724 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:40,661 ...and seeing people's reactions. 725 00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:41,746 Go. 726 00:34:47,168 --> 00:34:48,669 What are you guys doing? 727 00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:50,463 I'm too young for this stuff! 728 00:34:52,673 --> 00:34:53,758 MICHAEL: That's incredible. 729 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:56,344 -MAN: You like that amount of dust? -I love it. 730 00:34:56,886 --> 00:34:58,429 When I was making movies as a kid, 731 00:34:58,513 --> 00:35:01,182 that would have been like... We could have used you. 732 00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:04,352 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 733 00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:06,395 -JOSEPHINE: Hello. -Hey, Mom. 734 00:35:07,146 --> 00:35:09,232 -Yes? -You know, I was thinking. 735 00:35:09,398 --> 00:35:11,567 -JOSEPHINE: Yeah? -There's a lot of stuff 736 00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:16,197 that we did in those Super 8 films that I would not let my kids do. 737 00:35:16,989 --> 00:35:20,118 JOSEPHINE: Okay, this is not the first time we've heard about that. 738 00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:25,414 This doesn't mean that we were neglectful as parents or anything like that. 739 00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:28,543 We were extremely busy. 740 00:35:28,626 --> 00:35:31,671 You know, there were times when things happened 741 00:35:31,754 --> 00:35:33,548 that shouldn't have happened. 742 00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:35,883 The supervision wasn't there. 743 00:35:36,884 --> 00:35:38,177 I have... 744 00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:42,181 I have to say you've had very exciting childhoods. 745 00:35:42,265 --> 00:35:43,975 I wasn't criticizing you. 746 00:35:44,308 --> 00:35:48,062 Of course, we didn't ask you whether we could put firecrackers 747 00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:51,357 -on our backs or throw... -Yes. 748 00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:55,611 ...M-80s into the swimming pool to see if there would be a wave. 749 00:35:55,862 --> 00:35:57,905 MICHAEL: I actually put a quarter stick of dynamite 750 00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:00,199 in my parent's pool and almost cracked the cement. 751 00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:02,326 Why did you have a stick of dynamite? 752 00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:04,745 -How did you get... -Let's not worry about that. 753 00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:06,455 -New Jersey. -Yeah, it's New Jersey. 754 00:36:06,539 --> 00:36:07,540 I know a guy. 755 00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:09,792 Anyway, so, you know, I was on the set today. 756 00:36:09,876 --> 00:36:10,877 I saw the werewolf. 757 00:36:11,419 --> 00:36:12,420 JOSEPHINE: Okay. 758 00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:13,838 MAN: Rolling camera. 759 00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:17,675 (GRUNTING) 760 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,552 ANTHONY: I can tell you about the movie 761 00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,971 as long as you don't call like TMZ or... 762 00:36:22,138 --> 00:36:24,599 JOSEPHINE: I definitely would not call anybody. 763 00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:28,311 (GRUNTING) 764 00:36:29,061 --> 00:36:30,104 Nice. 765 00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:33,524 ANTHONY: I especially loved the werewolf. 766 00:36:33,608 --> 00:36:35,234 I used to have a jacket. 767 00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:37,486 It had fur on the inside. 768 00:36:37,653 --> 00:36:39,280 I would turn it inside out, 769 00:36:39,947 --> 00:36:42,366 as if I were turning into a werewolf. 770 00:36:42,909 --> 00:36:44,744 (GROWLS) 771 00:36:45,661 --> 00:36:46,829 MICHAEL: Great. Fantastic. 772 00:36:47,246 --> 00:36:49,707 JOSEPHINE: I don't know how you can square that fact 773 00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:53,628 that you really were enamored with these werewolf characters 774 00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:59,634 because you were also really stuck on the Smurfs. 775 00:37:01,135 --> 00:37:02,470 So that has nothing to do 776 00:37:02,553 --> 00:37:03,930 -with Beverly, New Jersey? -No. 777 00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:07,350 JOSEPHINE: And so, are you getting everything that you wanted? 778 00:37:07,808 --> 00:37:08,893 This is a great set. 779 00:37:09,518 --> 00:37:10,728 ANTHONY: You know, it's hard. 780 00:37:10,811 --> 00:37:12,313 It's actually harder than I thought, 781 00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:16,442 because it's just such long days and he's just so tired. 782 00:37:17,568 --> 00:37:20,154 (SCREAMING) 783 00:37:24,283 --> 00:37:25,284 And cut. 784 00:37:25,701 --> 00:37:27,620 -And that's a cut. -Cut! 785 00:37:27,995 --> 00:37:29,372 ANTHONY: It's kind of a struggle. 786 00:37:29,830 --> 00:37:30,998 JOSEPHINE: I can see that. 787 00:37:31,666 --> 00:37:34,543 WOMAN: Another one? Okay, one more time. Let's go. Okay. 788 00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:36,045 This is my life right now. 789 00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:40,466 ANTHONY: I wonder, what would you do with him? 790 00:37:40,549 --> 00:37:45,096 How would you get to his filmmaking roots? 791 00:37:45,304 --> 00:37:46,973 MAN: Try managing a little bit more. 792 00:37:47,139 --> 00:37:51,644 JOSEPHINE: Okay, that is not an easy question, 793 00:37:52,561 --> 00:37:55,690 but how would you go about capturing that? 794 00:37:55,773 --> 00:37:57,358 You know, in other words... 795 00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:59,735 ANTHONY: Well, honestly, I think... 796 00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:06,575 Maybe it's just getting him back in New Jersey. 797 00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:10,204 -You know? -JOSEPHINE: Well, that sounds good. 798 00:38:10,746 --> 00:38:12,498 We'll just get together with 799 00:38:12,581 --> 00:38:16,377 the old high school friends that he made these movies with? 800 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:18,170 JOSEPHINE: Yes. I guess so. 801 00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:19,880 To sort of gather them up 802 00:38:20,006 --> 00:38:22,925 and maybe go to some of the old locations of where they filmed 803 00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:26,846 or go back to Holy Cross where, really, where they all met. 804 00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:30,558 JOSEPHINE: Well, Michael was in a lot of the theater productions there. 805 00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:32,018 Merry Christmas, everyone. 806 00:38:32,101 --> 00:38:33,436 Merry Christmas, Mark. 807 00:38:33,686 --> 00:38:37,523 And these guys that he was in the theater with also became his movie friends. 808 00:38:37,815 --> 00:38:40,192 MICHAEL: We're live at MGG Studios, interview with Tom White. 809 00:38:40,651 --> 00:38:43,446 You know that was an integral part of his life. 810 00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:44,739 Hello, Harry. 811 00:38:45,489 --> 00:38:46,490 Hello. 812 00:38:46,574 --> 00:38:49,744 For him, you know, to go back and see 813 00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:53,080 "My goodness, this is where I was then..." 814 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:54,457 I am on TV. 815 00:38:54,957 --> 00:38:56,459 This is Mike Giacchino, eh? 816 00:38:56,751 --> 00:38:58,669 "...and now look where I am." 817 00:38:58,961 --> 00:39:01,714 MICHAEL: All right. Bloodstone's in the air, you're running in, 818 00:39:01,797 --> 00:39:03,591 Bloodstone hits the ground. 819 00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:06,052 ANTHONY: Yeah. Yeah. 820 00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:43,631 We have to keep looking at each other's balls 821 00:39:43,714 --> 00:39:45,925 to make sure that they're roughly the same size. 822 00:39:46,008 --> 00:39:47,134 Size. Yeah. 823 00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:49,136 You don't want them too big, right? 824 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:50,346 Right. So... 825 00:39:51,138 --> 00:39:52,306 JOSEPHINE: Like that. 826 00:39:53,724 --> 00:39:55,142 That's too big. 827 00:39:56,310 --> 00:40:00,940 Yeah, but, I mean, mine was a little bigger too. 828 00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:06,112 ANTHONY: What do you like about having your kids home? 829 00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:08,030 MR. GIACCHINO: Well, it's too easy to say, 830 00:40:08,114 --> 00:40:10,908 -"That they'll be leaving soon," you know. -(CHUCKLES) 831 00:40:12,993 --> 00:40:15,496 ANTHONY: Are you guys gonna watch Michael's Werewolf movie? 832 00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:21,460 A horror movie is not my favorite. 833 00:40:22,002 --> 00:40:23,295 Um... 834 00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:29,093 ANTHONY: Now that Michael's directed a Hollywood film, 835 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,011 you think he is too big for this house? 836 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:33,973 What still surprises your dad and I 837 00:40:34,056 --> 00:40:36,600 is how well he's known all over the place. 838 00:40:36,725 --> 00:40:37,935 ANTHONY: Yeah. 839 00:40:40,896 --> 00:40:43,190 JOSEPHINE: But if he walks in the door, 840 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,859 that's not Michael the composer... 841 00:40:44,984 --> 00:40:46,402 Shouldn't you all be sleepin'? 842 00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:49,155 ...that's not Michael who worked on this movie, 843 00:40:50,698 --> 00:40:52,116 that's Michael, our son. 844 00:40:59,373 --> 00:41:02,209 ANTHONY: When was the last time you were at our high school? 845 00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,128 MICHAEL: The last time I was at Holy Cross... 846 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:08,466 -I suppose your graduation. -That was in 1988. 847 00:41:09,258 --> 00:41:12,011 MICHAEL: I think once I left, they shut the door behind me. 848 00:41:12,094 --> 00:41:14,013 (ANTHONY LAUGHS) 849 00:41:14,096 --> 00:41:16,807 That's where we filmed Time Sleeper. Right there. 850 00:41:19,602 --> 00:41:22,897 -ANTHONY: Time Sleeper was what, 1983? -Yeah. 851 00:41:25,524 --> 00:41:28,194 ANTHONY: I think Holy Cross is important. 852 00:41:28,277 --> 00:41:30,196 I think the friends you found... 853 00:41:30,279 --> 00:41:32,573 MICHAEL: The friends I found there were great, 854 00:41:32,698 --> 00:41:36,619 sort of additive creatives to what I wanted to do. 855 00:41:36,785 --> 00:41:40,039 They were all like, had their own crazy creative ideas. 856 00:41:40,122 --> 00:41:41,582 They were all very funny. 857 00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:45,169 They should be a part of this. 858 00:41:45,252 --> 00:41:47,004 They helped me make all this stuff. 859 00:41:47,087 --> 00:41:48,088 ANTHONY: Yeah. 860 00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:50,174 I don't think I could have made it without 'em. 861 00:41:50,716 --> 00:41:52,510 ANTHONY: Have you seen these guys lately? 862 00:41:52,593 --> 00:41:54,678 We talk, we text. 863 00:41:54,887 --> 00:41:58,015 We had a Zoom during the pandemic, 864 00:41:58,098 --> 00:42:00,476 where we sort of hung out for a few hours. 865 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:01,894 -Yeah. -So once in a while. 866 00:42:02,186 --> 00:42:03,771 But we haven't been together... 867 00:42:05,147 --> 00:42:06,440 in a long time. 868 00:42:09,401 --> 00:42:11,529 I'm sorry. You can't park here. 869 00:42:12,071 --> 00:42:13,656 It's student parking only. 870 00:42:13,739 --> 00:42:16,283 -I must give him a hug. -It's student parking only. 871 00:42:16,742 --> 00:42:18,494 -How are you? -I am good, brother. 872 00:42:18,577 --> 00:42:20,788 -It's good to see you. -WHITE: It's good to see you. 873 00:42:21,997 --> 00:42:23,707 -How are you doing? -How are you? 874 00:42:23,791 --> 00:42:25,626 -What's happening? -Not much, not much. 875 00:42:26,168 --> 00:42:28,420 MICHAEL: This is insane. BRYSON: It is. Very surreal. 876 00:42:29,672 --> 00:42:31,715 Come on out. (CHUCKLES) 877 00:42:31,799 --> 00:42:32,967 How are you? 878 00:42:33,801 --> 00:42:35,678 -It's so good to see you. -Good to see you. 879 00:42:35,761 --> 00:42:37,179 -It's great. -MICHAEL: What's happening? 880 00:42:37,263 --> 00:42:38,722 You're that guy. Oh, my God! 881 00:42:38,806 --> 00:42:39,974 (LAUGHS) 882 00:42:40,057 --> 00:42:42,935 -That's a good one. Good to see you. -It's so good to see you. 883 00:42:43,018 --> 00:42:44,562 -What's going on? -What's going on? 884 00:42:44,979 --> 00:42:46,188 Oh, my God. 885 00:42:46,814 --> 00:42:48,941 Good to see you. 886 00:42:49,024 --> 00:42:51,902 I thought you would have already been here in your ninja costume. 887 00:42:51,986 --> 00:42:53,112 He was... 888 00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:55,447 -I still have that suit. -I'm sure you do. 889 00:42:55,531 --> 00:42:56,949 WHITE: I still have all that stuff. 890 00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:59,660 My brother waking me up saying, "There's a ninja at the door." 891 00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:02,079 -That would be me. -It's Tom. It's Tom. 892 00:43:02,162 --> 00:43:05,457 My youngest daughter likes to dress up in it and do all kinds of crazy things. 893 00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:07,543 -You tell her what you used to do? -I do. 894 00:43:08,043 --> 00:43:09,670 I don't hide anything from the kids. 895 00:43:09,753 --> 00:43:12,047 -They know their old man is nuts. -(LAUGHTER) 896 00:43:13,841 --> 00:43:14,883 Well, we are getting old. 897 00:43:14,967 --> 00:43:16,844 I don't think we are. Don't say that. 898 00:43:17,177 --> 00:43:19,221 I mean, you guys look it. I just don't know about... 899 00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:20,598 (ALL LAUGH) 900 00:43:21,849 --> 00:43:23,892 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 901 00:43:29,315 --> 00:43:31,775 It seemed so much bigger before. 902 00:43:31,859 --> 00:43:33,235 Yeah, it did feel a lot bigger. 903 00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:35,279 I don't know if pay phones are still there. 904 00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:36,488 Yeah. 905 00:43:36,572 --> 00:43:39,283 -Here we go. -WHITE: Well, I'll break the ice here. 906 00:43:39,366 --> 00:43:41,910 I'm the biggest. If anything bad happens, it'll happen to me. 907 00:43:43,495 --> 00:43:45,122 ANTHONY: Open up. WOMAN: Anthony? 908 00:43:45,247 --> 00:43:46,373 ANTHONY: Yes. 909 00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:48,667 Frank, what do you think of the play so far? 910 00:43:49,209 --> 00:43:51,086 Come on. Okay. 911 00:43:51,295 --> 00:43:53,255 WHITE: The wood's the same. The chairs are the same. 912 00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:55,549 Everything's the same, the floor's the same. 913 00:43:55,716 --> 00:43:58,510 I feel like I just stepped back in time, to the '80s. 914 00:43:58,802 --> 00:43:59,887 ANTHONY: Yeah. 915 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:01,096 Kevin, come here. 916 00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:04,767 And there he is, the stage manager, Kevin Zebrowski. 917 00:44:05,142 --> 00:44:07,728 -Kevin, tell us about the progress. -It sucks. 918 00:44:09,855 --> 00:44:12,358 Play the "ads, ads, ads, ads." 919 00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:14,443 -Remember the sales pitch? -Oh, God. 920 00:44:14,693 --> 00:44:16,904 (PLAYING JINGLE) 921 00:44:18,781 --> 00:44:20,616 -Something like that... -That was it. 922 00:44:21,075 --> 00:44:22,743 MICHAEL: Since I write, I never practice, 923 00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:24,995 so my piano playing is terrible anymore. 924 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:26,997 MAN: (SINGING) Please buy those ads, ads, ads 925 00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:30,584 I wonder if I still have that recording. I probably do, somewhere. 926 00:44:30,709 --> 00:44:33,420 This is a huge theater. 927 00:44:37,758 --> 00:44:41,428 WHITE: The amount of hours that was put in back here. 928 00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:44,807 -We did every play and musical, all of us. -Absolutely. 929 00:44:48,268 --> 00:44:49,687 WHITE: We grew up here. MICHAEL: Yeah. 930 00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:51,605 This is where a lot of growing happened. 931 00:44:51,730 --> 00:44:52,815 Hey, look. 932 00:44:52,898 --> 00:44:54,149 ANTHONY: Hi, there. 933 00:44:54,274 --> 00:44:55,484 You're on camera. Smile. 934 00:44:55,776 --> 00:44:58,112 MICHAEL: I think a lot of what we did over the years, 935 00:44:58,404 --> 00:45:01,532 during the in-between moments of those musicals and plays, 936 00:45:02,408 --> 00:45:05,035 was planned out and thought of. 937 00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:08,497 We'd go, "Okay, so what movie are we going to make next?" 938 00:45:12,126 --> 00:45:16,255 Honestly, I think that the films that we showed 939 00:45:16,338 --> 00:45:19,091 that Michael would bring the movies in and show it to people, 940 00:45:19,174 --> 00:45:21,176 and I think they thought, this was cool. 941 00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:22,511 -It was fun. -MICHAEL: Yeah. 942 00:45:22,594 --> 00:45:23,971 And they started to join in. 943 00:45:24,054 --> 00:45:26,223 Remember we showed Taking Care of Business? 944 00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:27,599 BRYSON: That was awesome. 945 00:45:27,683 --> 00:45:28,809 Big debut was here. 946 00:45:29,309 --> 00:45:31,103 -For first year of college. -Yeah? 947 00:45:32,020 --> 00:45:35,941 Look at this fine mess you've gotten yourself into now. 948 00:45:36,358 --> 00:45:38,694 You should've shot me while you had the chance. 949 00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:41,405 (ALL LAUGHING) 950 00:45:45,033 --> 00:45:47,327 Remember when we were in Mill Creek Park filming, 951 00:45:47,411 --> 00:45:50,330 and we had Craig McCullough... Is that his name? 952 00:45:50,456 --> 00:45:52,374 -MICHAEL: Yeah. -...tumbling down that hill. 953 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,376 Got to do it again. 954 00:45:55,294 --> 00:45:59,006 There's one scene where he hits a bounce and his whole body... 955 00:45:59,089 --> 00:46:00,716 It's amazing. It worked out great. 956 00:46:00,799 --> 00:46:02,009 -Yeah. -The shot is great. 957 00:46:02,092 --> 00:46:06,597 Those things that we did back then, I don't have any recollection 958 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,058 of anyone saying, "You're a son of a" whatever, you know what I mean? 959 00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:12,519 Or "This is a stupid idea. Go away." 960 00:46:12,603 --> 00:46:14,104 There was the collaboration. 961 00:46:14,188 --> 00:46:17,024 Well, and I think our movies had the level of action in it, 962 00:46:17,107 --> 00:46:19,693 because in large part due to you, you would help us. 963 00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:22,446 (GROANS) Oh, great. 964 00:46:24,198 --> 00:46:27,701 WHITE: I was the arms master. So when we needed weapons, 965 00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:32,164 I was like, "Well, I've got stuff at home, you want me to bring it?" 966 00:46:32,956 --> 00:46:36,585 And I remember, when you watch Time Sleeper, my sword, 967 00:46:37,544 --> 00:46:39,254 Harry taps me on the shoulder, 968 00:46:39,421 --> 00:46:42,674 and I turn and I swing full force with the sword. 969 00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:46,887 So, if Harry had not ducked like we had talked about, 970 00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:48,222 I'd have cut his head off. 971 00:46:49,348 --> 00:46:51,850 It was great to have a trained stunt man on the crew. 972 00:46:51,934 --> 00:46:53,227 I appreciate that. Thank you. 973 00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:55,395 I have no idea where he got his training. 974 00:46:55,896 --> 00:46:57,648 I can remember the first time you said, 975 00:46:57,731 --> 00:47:00,359 "Why don't you come over this weekend, we're making a movie. 976 00:47:00,442 --> 00:47:01,944 "I could use an extra." 977 00:47:05,489 --> 00:47:07,825 I remember coming to the house for the first time, 978 00:47:08,242 --> 00:47:11,787 Mike said, here, hold this makeshift light saber he had, 979 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:14,081 and he took a camera and I swung it around. 980 00:47:14,540 --> 00:47:16,875 And then later he scratched the film 981 00:47:16,959 --> 00:47:19,503 to make it look like it's glowing and it has a laser. 982 00:47:19,586 --> 00:47:21,672 So that's my first memory. 983 00:47:21,755 --> 00:47:23,298 -Right. I remember that. -WHITE: Yeah? 984 00:47:23,382 --> 00:47:24,800 I feel like I 985 00:47:24,883 --> 00:47:28,220 became instantly known after you started to show Time Sleeper. 986 00:47:28,345 --> 00:47:30,889 Anything for my lord and master. 987 00:47:31,306 --> 00:47:32,516 WHITE: Well, you were the hero. 988 00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:34,768 -HARVEY: I was the hero. -You were the cool hero, man. 989 00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:35,853 HARVEY: Han Solo of that. 990 00:47:35,936 --> 00:47:38,522 -Hold on a sec. Wasn't I the hero? -Anthony was the hero. 991 00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:42,442 Because you punched him in the face? 992 00:47:44,778 --> 00:47:46,113 I met Michael Giacchino, 993 00:47:46,196 --> 00:47:48,615 him coming to me one day, sophomore year, early on, 994 00:47:48,699 --> 00:47:50,617 he was like, "Hey, my name is Michael." 995 00:47:50,701 --> 00:47:52,202 I was like... I knew who you were. 996 00:47:52,286 --> 00:47:54,496 We knew who each other... We weren't friends yet. 997 00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:58,333 He said, "Hey, I hear that you have done some writing 998 00:47:58,417 --> 00:48:01,461 "and you're into science fiction. Star Wars, Star Trek." 999 00:48:01,545 --> 00:48:02,880 I'm like, "Yeah, absolutely." 1000 00:48:02,963 --> 00:48:05,090 He was like, "Well, I have some ideas for a movie. 1001 00:48:05,173 --> 00:48:07,426 "You want to talk about this?" I'm like, "A movie?" 1002 00:48:08,385 --> 00:48:09,803 Hello, buddy. 1003 00:48:10,387 --> 00:48:11,889 Literally, that's how I met him. 1004 00:48:11,972 --> 00:48:14,182 It's my memory and then we wrote Time Sleeper. 1005 00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:16,310 I still have some of those script pages too. 1006 00:48:16,435 --> 00:48:17,436 Oh, man. 1007 00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:20,105 I was telling Anthony earlier, I was just lucky to find people 1008 00:48:20,188 --> 00:48:22,816 that were as enthusiastic about it as I was. 1009 00:48:25,152 --> 00:48:28,030 Who are also not afraid to just be as crazy 1010 00:48:28,113 --> 00:48:30,782 and stupid as I was to try and do things. 1011 00:48:31,116 --> 00:48:32,618 Well, guys, what do you think? 1012 00:48:32,743 --> 00:48:33,869 Like there was never any... 1013 00:48:33,952 --> 00:48:35,954 "How are we gonna do this? Can we do this?" 1014 00:48:36,038 --> 00:48:37,497 It's always, "We're gonna do this." 1015 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,252 Indy, you'll get me into more trouble. 1016 00:48:42,336 --> 00:48:43,795 Well, who gets you out of it? 1017 00:48:44,796 --> 00:48:46,131 But I have an idea. 1018 00:48:46,381 --> 00:48:48,008 If only we had your whip, 1019 00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:49,593 we can whip out of here. 1020 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,219 -Whip out of that thing. -No! 1021 00:48:51,845 --> 00:48:53,013 The unfinished movie. 1022 00:48:53,096 --> 00:48:56,016 HARVEY: Yeah, Indiana Jones and the Golden Snake. 1023 00:48:57,059 --> 00:48:58,727 MICHAEL: I still have the golden snake. 1024 00:48:58,810 --> 00:49:01,063 -We can finish it. -Let's do it. 1025 00:49:01,146 --> 00:49:02,230 We'll call all the guys. 1026 00:49:02,314 --> 00:49:04,566 I remember there was supposed to be a car chase. 1027 00:49:04,650 --> 00:49:06,068 That was a little too ambitious. 1028 00:49:06,151 --> 00:49:08,362 -Yeah. That one was... -Yeah. (LAUGHS) 1029 00:49:10,238 --> 00:49:12,282 -Here, here. -No, no. Wait, wait... 1030 00:49:12,366 --> 00:49:13,825 Was that the whip I gave you? 1031 00:49:13,909 --> 00:49:15,827 This is what I bought out at Columbus Mart. 1032 00:49:15,911 --> 00:49:16,912 Okay. 1033 00:49:16,995 --> 00:49:18,705 BOY: (ON VIDEO) Just stand over there, okay? 1034 00:49:18,914 --> 00:49:21,333 (PEOPLE APPLAUDING) 1035 00:49:26,713 --> 00:49:29,800 FEIGE: You may know Michael as an amazing composer, 1036 00:49:30,342 --> 00:49:34,304 but he is here because he also is a very talented director. 1037 00:49:35,347 --> 00:49:40,352 This is something I've been wanting to make for you since I was 10 years old. 1038 00:49:40,686 --> 00:49:42,562 I used to make movies when I was a kid. 1039 00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:45,565 I used to make Regular 8 movies and Super 8 movies. 1040 00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:47,943 I even went to film school. I did all of that. 1041 00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:51,279 And honestly, it's been incredible to be able to come back 1042 00:49:51,363 --> 00:49:54,700 and do what I loved since I was a kid, which was to make a movie. 1043 00:50:02,374 --> 00:50:04,042 ANTHONY: So now that it's over... 1044 00:50:04,793 --> 00:50:08,005 How would you describe your experience directing your first film? 1045 00:50:11,216 --> 00:50:12,342 MICHAEL: Directing a movie... 1046 00:50:13,635 --> 00:50:15,387 it's really just an extension of 1047 00:50:16,138 --> 00:50:17,764 what I've always done. 1048 00:50:19,224 --> 00:50:20,892 It just sort of never stopped. 1049 00:50:22,644 --> 00:50:23,895 It just kept going. 1050 00:50:27,399 --> 00:50:29,109 (BOY WHOOPING) 1051 00:50:40,871 --> 00:50:42,581 MICHAEL: When I was on set, 1052 00:50:43,081 --> 00:50:44,583 it was really fun to go around 1053 00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:46,793 learning about everyone's positions 1054 00:50:47,419 --> 00:50:50,172 and then asking, "Hey, maybe I could do the dolly, 1055 00:50:50,255 --> 00:50:52,841 "or maybe I could try operating this giant crane." 1056 00:50:57,220 --> 00:51:00,098 And I think that idea of a group art form, 1057 00:51:01,725 --> 00:51:03,560 you know, the films that I made as a kid 1058 00:51:03,643 --> 00:51:06,688 would never have been as good if it were just me making it. 1059 00:51:09,983 --> 00:51:13,278 Just like in the Werewolf movie, 1060 00:51:13,737 --> 00:51:14,946 working with Laura, 1061 00:51:16,698 --> 00:51:17,949 Gael, 1062 00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:19,743 Harriet... 1063 00:51:19,826 --> 00:51:23,163 We spill all blood for the hunt. 1064 00:51:23,580 --> 00:51:24,915 (TUBA BLOWS) 1065 00:51:24,998 --> 00:51:26,458 ...and the rest of the cast... 1066 00:51:26,541 --> 00:51:27,626 (WHOOPING) 1067 00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:30,337 ...and everyone on the crew. 1068 00:51:30,712 --> 00:51:32,339 -(APPLAUDING) -Best crew ever! 1069 00:51:32,464 --> 00:51:33,840 ALL: Yeah! 1070 00:51:33,924 --> 00:51:36,968 What they added, made it immeasurably better. 1071 00:51:38,261 --> 00:51:40,931 That communal experience and communal joy... 1072 00:51:41,139 --> 00:51:42,974 Ha! 1073 00:51:43,058 --> 00:51:45,268 ...that was my entire life growing up. 1074 00:51:55,987 --> 00:51:58,281 It was a lot of fun and a lot of work. 1075 00:51:58,365 --> 00:52:01,493 It took a long time, but it was worth it, and it came out really great. 1076 00:52:01,701 --> 00:52:04,454 (ALL CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY) 1077 00:52:15,882 --> 00:52:19,136 This is where we filmed the big climax to Time Sleeper. 1078 00:52:22,514 --> 00:52:25,767 -We filmed mostly on the loading bay. -Yeah, on the loading dock there. Yup. 1079 00:52:25,851 --> 00:52:28,687 ANTHONY: It looked like an apocalyptic nuclear wasteland. 1080 00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:30,939 -It matched perfect with what we did. -Yeah. 1081 00:52:33,692 --> 00:52:35,902 Mike Bryson, do you wanna recreate our sword fight? 1082 00:52:35,986 --> 00:52:37,112 The sword fight? Sure. 1083 00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:40,073 It would be like... 1084 00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:43,118 -I think... -And then I went. 1085 00:52:43,285 --> 00:52:44,703 And I jump though. 1086 00:52:45,328 --> 00:52:46,746 And now, young man. 1087 00:52:47,122 --> 00:52:48,165 Now, young man... 1088 00:52:48,415 --> 00:52:50,542 You will die. 1089 00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:52,252 And then Harry throws the knife. 1090 00:52:52,335 --> 00:52:54,963 That's right, Harry goes... (EXHALES) Flips it over and... 1091 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:57,007 (GROANS) 1092 00:52:59,551 --> 00:53:02,637 Those peasants have talked about revolt many times in the past few years. 1093 00:53:02,804 --> 00:53:05,223 Peasants have talked about revolt many times in this... 1094 00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:06,892 ANTHONY: I'll feed it to you. 1095 00:53:06,975 --> 00:53:08,018 -Are you ready? -Yes. 1096 00:53:08,101 --> 00:53:11,605 Those peasants have talked about revolt many times in the past few years. 1097 00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,356 But whenever they realize they need... 1098 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,484 my superior intellect to survive on this radiation cursed world, 1099 00:53:16,568 --> 00:53:17,944 they always reconsider. 1100 00:53:18,278 --> 00:53:19,863 They always reconsider. 1101 00:53:20,655 --> 00:53:22,324 -MICHAEL: Yeah. You did it! -Yeah! 1102 00:53:22,407 --> 00:53:24,075 -Yeah, man. -(APPLAUDING) 1103 00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:25,452 Bravo! 1104 00:53:27,913 --> 00:53:30,457 Michael Giacchino is on the line! 1105 00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:32,292 Hey. How are you doing? 1106 00:53:32,375 --> 00:53:33,376 Hold on one sec. 1107 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:34,794 Are you taking the call? 1108 00:53:34,961 --> 00:53:37,005 No. I'm on with my mom right now. 1109 00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:38,465 HOST: Ah! 1110 00:53:38,548 --> 00:53:40,342 Hi, Mrs. Giacchino. 1111 00:53:40,425 --> 00:53:41,968 They're saying hello to you. 1112 00:53:42,052 --> 00:53:46,264 So, Ma, just go to wmmr.com and go to the live stream. 1113 00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:47,641 Okay? Go to the live stream. 1114 00:53:47,724 --> 00:53:48,767 -All right. -HOST: How sweet.