1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,280 The former chairman of Renault-Nissan 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,360 has left Japan and fled to Lebanon. 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,520 …former Nissan Chairman Carlos Ghosn is on the run. 6 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,160 In Japan, when someone is arrested… 7 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,320 that person's life is over. 8 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,360 He built himself a shell 9 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,840 because he thought he was invincible. 10 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,960 He went from being a savior, 11 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,560 to eventually a suspected criminal. 12 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,040 He lost all his power. 13 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,360 He's become the naked king, completely naked. 14 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Renault has recorded a net loss of 5,248,000,000 francs. 15 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,560 Louis Schweitzer, its president, says 16 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:28,880 these figures have put the manufacturer in the red for the first time in a decade. 17 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,920 The losses are still an issue. 18 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,440 He was very direct, 19 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,320 very focused on the issue at hand, 20 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,320 and not at all the kind of person who'd chat about the weather. 21 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,960 No small talk, as we say in English. 22 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,440 In the classical French system, there are lots of inheritors. 23 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,680 So people who are the nephews, grandchildren, 24 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,240 or the children of senior officials, ministers, or CEOs, etc. 25 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Carlos Ghosn wasn't that at all. 26 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:34,160 Carlos Ghosn came from somewhere else, from a very different world. 27 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,040 He had absolutely no desire 28 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,360 to become part of the French establishment, 29 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,000 especially not in the Parisian environment, let's say. 30 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,640 I think that cost him dearly later on. 31 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:15,360 The other bosses didn't like him because he wasn't in their social circle. 32 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,200 They'd see each other at the opera, soccer matches, or meetings. 33 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,360 Carlos Ghosn never did any of that. 34 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,200 From the very start, he was an outsider. 35 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,120 Renault has announced that it will close its factory 36 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,280 in Vilvoorde, Belgium in July. 37 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,840 More than 3,000 jobs are at stake. 38 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,760 Renault has decided to cease production 39 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,720 at its Belgian factory. 40 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,040 The Cost Cutter, literally "The Reducer of Costs," 41 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Carlos Ghosn ruthlessly reorganized production. 42 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Unbelievable! 43 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,680 The CEO of Renault, Louis Schweitzer, 44 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,560 isn't particularly known for his good humor. 45 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,720 But, today, he has every reason to smile. 46 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,400 Renault and Nissan are creating 47 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,520 the world's fourth-biggest automobile group. 48 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,000 A shared global partnership agreement has just been signed in Tokyo. 49 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,000 A global partnership in which Renault will invest 33 billion francs 50 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,720 to acquire just over a third of the Japanese capital. 51 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,400 What Mr. Ghosn came to was a car maker in total chaos. 52 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,880 A down-and-out Nissan, unable to make new cars 53 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,240 or produce any popular models. 54 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Mr. Ghosn came shouldering the responsibility 55 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,120 of somehow rebuilding Nissan. 56 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,560 MURAYAMA FACTORY 57 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,680 Calling it an alliance 58 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,760 implies equality, 59 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,840 but this was no alliance. 60 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:30,280 Renault was above and Nissan was below. 61 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,480 It was a big surprise 62 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:42,320 for a company like Nissan 63 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,680 to bring in and accept a foreign CEO. 64 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,240 Mmm. Very surprising. 65 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,440 I, too, as a business reporter, 66 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,800 had the impression 67 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,800 that Japan was being taken over by another country. 68 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,480 I felt like we had lost a war and were now 69 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:03,880 being occupied. 70 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,280 I understood that having no choice 71 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,160 but to accept a foreigner as the president 72 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,400 of such a company was like losing a war, 73 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,920 like we'd lost an economic war. 74 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,160 He visited the factories across Japan in person. 75 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,560 He wanted to seem friendly, caring, and generous 76 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,040 toward his workers 77 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,680 in order to show 78 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,880 that he wasn't the sort of person to rashly fire people. 79 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,880 I thought, 80 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,560 "Could this middle-aged guy really be such a revolutionary?" 81 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,600 That was my initial impression of him. 82 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,680 He was short and bald back then, 83 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,320 and he wore these out-of-fashion glasses. 84 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,880 In that sense, it seemed like he had no relation to 85 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,960 the fashionable country of France. 86 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:25,720 It was in the autumn of 1999 87 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:31,240 that the idea was to present a plan to revive Nissan in three years. 88 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,440 In order to make 89 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,280 the Nissan revival plan a success, 90 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,320 depends on how much… 91 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,000 Ghosn was already known 92 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,080 as a cost-cutter in his work with Michelin and Renault. 93 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,160 So Nissan employees 94 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,760 really feared they would lose their jobs. 95 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,880 After Ghosn came, 96 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,720 my main job was to lay people off. 97 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,440 21,000 EMPLOYEE CUTBACK 98 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,160 He gave directions and set specific figures that had to be met, 99 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:27,080 and were impossible to achieve with the way we had been working until then. 100 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Stop factory closures! 101 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Stop factory closures! 102 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,160 Stop the Renault/Nissan conspiracy! 103 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,760 But if anyone complained, 104 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,840 they were cut off. 105 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Especially if the complaints were made towards Ghosn. 106 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,840 When I first met Mr. Ghosn to interview him, 107 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:28,640 he was so sure that he wouldn't fail. 108 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,800 The next 15 minutes is important, 109 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,080 because no one is here yet and he can work on his own 110 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,160 with no one to bother him. 111 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,120 He checks his emails. 112 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,000 He was 100% sure of success. 113 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Failure never even occurred to him. 114 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:10,320 I would also like to welcome our friends from the French press. 115 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,680 Today, I am proud to be Lebanese. 116 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,280 A country that has stood by me in difficult times. 117 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,040 In Japanese culture, the biggest holiday of the year 118 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:35,960 is New Year's Day. 119 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Carlos Ghosn missed this first meeting, 120 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,880 which notably included suppliers. 121 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,720 He was supposed to open a barrel of sake using an axe 122 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,320 and wish everyone happiness. 123 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,240 If you don't do that, it's really frowned upon. 124 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,680 He wasn't there. He'd gone on vacation. 125 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,920 WELCOME EVERYONE, TO THE NISSAN IWAKI FACTORY! 126 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,840 He had a lot of charisma. 127 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,440 Everyone would get nervous 128 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,720 and would be in awe when they met him. 129 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Mr. Ghosn wasn't handsome. 130 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,640 I thought he looked like Mr. Bean. 131 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,120 But I couldn't say that out loud because I'd get in trouble. 132 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,560 Why are you laughing? 133 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,080 He never smelled of alcohol. 134 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,480 And, of course, he didn't smoke. 135 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,240 He was always serious. 136 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,240 He was early to rise and early to bed. 137 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,480 I'd prepare his daily breakfast in a bottle 138 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,200 the day before. 139 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:09,840 There'd be oatmeal with coconut milk, maqui berry powder, 140 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,360 one stick of seaweed brain powder 141 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,400 which cost about 1,000 yen per stick. 142 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,840 I'd blend it all in a blender until it was thick and purple, 143 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,160 and that's what he'd have every morning. 144 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,320 He looked good in a suit and he seemed powerful. 145 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,720 I don't know how to explain it. 146 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,280 Now, a meeting with Ghosn 147 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,000 always meant numbers. 148 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,800 He'd bring out a ton of figures 149 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,440 and all this data. 150 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,400 He'd speak so quickly, 151 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:10,280 stunning everyone into acceptance. 152 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:14,040 I suppose it's a sort of 153 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,000 performative magic. 154 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,280 People at Nissan said there was a "Ghosn premium." 155 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,840 And that just having Ghosn as a manager 156 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,200 made the company more valuable in the eyes of investors. 157 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,120 That was Ghosn's position in the automotive industry. 158 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,520 He wanted to show that the GT-R 159 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,760 was like a wolf in sheep's clothing. 160 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,000 NISSAN TEST DRIVE SITE 161 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,000 Meaning that the car was actually very easy to drive. 162 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,520 …almost 100 kph. 163 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,280 He let me drive it. 164 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,200 That was 200 kph… 200 kph! 165 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,200 Then suddenly at 60 kph… 166 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,200 But what I ended up feeling then 167 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,760 was that Ghosn loved cars 168 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,160 the way little boys do. 169 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,000 Basically, he loved the attention of the media. 170 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,920 He was very famous. 171 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,560 It was a kind of Ghosn mania. That's clear. 172 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,560 I thought he might be scary 173 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,480 but seeing him in person, he's playful. 174 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,560 He even waved! 175 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,320 He was in all the magazines. 176 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,000 He was treated like a star. 177 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,880 He was good at managing his own stage presence. 178 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,520 In other words, figuring out how to make his own fan club 179 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,600 was extremely important. 180 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,080 What Ghosn did was build a fan base within Nissan 181 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:59,200 and secured his place as CEO. 182 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,960 I think that's something very similar to what a politician does. 183 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,160 GO IWAKI! 184 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:21,800 That was when mangas started drawing his portrait 185 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,720 and writing his story to appear in comics. 186 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,480 His face lent itself well to it. 187 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,280 He had thick black eyebrows. 188 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:48,600 He was very easy to draw. 189 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,880 This is me and Mr. Ghosn. 190 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,200 And this one is Mr. Ghosn with our staff and me. 191 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,000 He's so famous that almost everyone knows him. 192 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,160 Thanks to Mr. Ghosn, 193 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,280 people found out about our restaurant 194 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:29,520 and we became busy. 195 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,400 He'd sit at this counter. 196 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800 His favorite yakitori was 197 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,920 kashiwa, chicken breast. 198 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,760 A small revolution in the automotive world. 199 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,440 The Renault group is changing leaders. 200 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720 Louis Schweitzer hands the baton to Carlos Ghosn, 201 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,600 the current CEO of Nissan… 202 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,520 I'm really happy to be back in France 203 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:35,240 to take the reins as CEO of a company as innovative and enthusiastic as Renault. 204 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,480 He could have delegated. 205 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,880 He could also have chosen someone Japanese who was familiar with both cultures, etc. 206 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,320 He didn't do that. He didn't try. 207 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,400 He wanted to maintain control over Nissan. 208 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,360 And that was a fatal error, in my opinion, 209 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,400 for the alliance, Nissan, Renault, and himself. 210 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,000 I think he paid dearly in the end. 211 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,400 They say he only spent one week out of the month in Japan. 212 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,960 The rest was either in France or America. 213 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,560 A CEO actively managing two huge, global companies 214 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,840 was unheard of, only Carlos Ghosn did that. 215 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,920 But nobody was able to make him understand that it wasn't possible 216 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,000 for him to run two companies of that size 10,000 km apart, 217 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,720 spending his whole life on planes, being torn between the two. 218 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,760 It really isn't the best way to understand the region, the people, 219 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,280 to see the teams and understand what was really going on. 220 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,120 That was the start of the disconnect. 221 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,440 In total, 222 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,760 we are going to launch 26 cars within the plan's timeframe. 223 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,120 Increase our sales by 800,000 vehicles in 2009 224 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,040 compared to 2006. 225 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,840 We are going to double our volume growth in half the time. 226 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,720 His biggest goal was to earn a profit 227 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,680 and distribute it to the shareholders. 228 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,240 As for how he treated personnel 229 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,880 using the talented and discarding the useless… 230 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,120 I think it was very different 231 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,880 from management styles in Japan back then. 232 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,600 I think that Ghosn's proximity to the troops, as we call them, 233 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,520 was really, really bad. 234 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120 Carlos Ghosn decided overnight 235 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:07,040 that they needed to cut costs by 30% within the Technocentre. 236 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,520 They were obliged to sign in blood, pretty much, 237 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,040 well, obviously not, 238 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,160 but they had to sign promising to give their heart and soul to it. 239 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,240 In early 2006, 240 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,080 my husband was working at least 12 hours a day. 241 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,320 That also included weekends. 242 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,880 The last two months, he was working more than 90 hours a week. 243 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,120 He regularly exceeded 100 hours. 244 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,640 So, it was really ridiculous. 245 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,120 Then, in the early afternoon, I got a call from the police. 246 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,960 What I first thought was that he had been in a car accident. 247 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240 But that obviously wasn't the case. 248 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,000 My husband committed suicide by jumping off a footbridge. 249 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:08,520 Two other people had already jumped from the same footbridge before him. 250 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,000 One of them died, 251 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:16,400 and the other hurt himself seriously and ended up in a wheelchair, paralyzed. 252 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,880 There were three suicides in four months. That's when the press jumped on the story. 253 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,120 Is there a collective sickness among Renault staff? 254 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,120 The question must be asked again 255 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600 following the suicide of a 44-year-old employee. 256 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,560 I saw him lose almost eight kilograms in six weeks. 257 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240 I saw him crying every night. 258 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,280 I saw him spending his nights and weekends working. 259 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,840 I saw him no longer knowing where he was. 260 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,120 He told me he wouldn't be forgiven, that no mistake would be forgiven. 261 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,920 It's Renault's misconduct that won't be forgiven. 262 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,240 I worked at the Technocentre back then. 263 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,080 It really was something we had never experienced before. 264 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,800 There was a sort of loss of meaning, of soul, 265 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,000 and people were so desperate that they took their own lives. 266 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,800 We would never have imagined that could happen at Renault. 267 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,520 So I wrote to Carlos Ghosn. 268 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,160 I thought that he might respond if I addressed it directly to him. 269 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,280 He didn't answer me. 270 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,920 Of course that's to be expected. 271 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,480 I don't know if he's the sole person responsible. 272 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:38,960 But he is responsible for the pressure he put on the company, 273 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,400 for what he encouraged in terms of management methods. 274 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,480 Car manufacturer Renault is guilty of gross negligence. 275 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Gross negligence. 276 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,920 Gross negligence in the suicide… 277 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,040 …the court determined that the carmaker 278 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,520 "should have been aware of the danger." 279 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,920 The company absolutely does not take this kind of tragedy lightly. 280 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,240 This affects us all, 281 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,480 and there will be consequences in terms of management and the attention… 282 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,080 What I am realizing by talking to you 283 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,360 is that the pain has eased, but the anger has not. 284 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480 I am still full of rage. 285 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,400 I am… The rage is still there. 286 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,240 The pain has eased somewhat, but the anger has not. 287 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,960 In Japan, it has been compulsory 288 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,360 to disclose the amount of remuneration 289 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,400 if you are paid more than 100 million yen since 2010. 290 00:34:56,240 --> 00:35:00,360 And that was when we realized that Carlos Ghosn's salary 291 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,960 was seven times higher than that of Toyota's CEO. 292 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:09,040 Well, for someone like me… 293 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,840 when I saw the publicized income for Carlos Ghosn, 294 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,040 I thought it was absurdly high. 295 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,440 It was beyond our imagination. 296 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,320 He thought he wasn't being paid enough. 297 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,840 And by that time, Mr. Ghosn was starting to lose 298 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,360 what you may call his "superhuman powers." 299 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,560 Ford said, well, the founder of Ford said, 300 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,280 "To ensure a good atmosphere in my company, 301 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,560 I should not be earning more than 20 times what the basic worker makes." 302 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,360 This is "the sharing day." What do you think of that comment? 303 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,040 To start with, you said "Ford said that," but Ford doesn't apply this rule. 304 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,240 The CEO of Ford is currently the highest paid CEO in the industry. 305 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,600 And he makes three times what I do. Just so you know. 306 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,320 I've never seen him excessively spend money. 307 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,720 He was quite conservative and took care of his things. 308 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,320 As for his shirts, 309 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,000 he'd wear them until the collar and underarms 310 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,800 turned yellow. 311 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,760 Also, this button here. 312 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,760 He gained some weight and the neck became a bit tight, 313 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,280 so he asked me to 314 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,680 adjust them all by one centimeter inwards. 315 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,400 He really valued and took care of his money. 316 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,760 Maybe that's why he was good at saving. 317 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,960 LEBANON 318 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,080 He started to change his appearance. 319 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,840 It was always said that he wore shoes with thicker soles 320 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,720 to make him appear taller. 321 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000 But his hair is obviously a hair transplant. 322 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,920 We've finally achieved a 5% market share, which was the first step. 323 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,560 Oh, his hair… 324 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,680 I suppose he has more hair… 325 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,240 compared to before. 326 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,480 I don't know if he grew taller, 327 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,280 but he definitely has more hair now. 328 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,080 Then he got rid of his glasses 329 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,000 and got Lasik, 330 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,280 laser eye surgery for nearsightedness. 331 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,480 I wouldn't say that Carlos Ghosn was the Emperor… 332 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,000 I don't know if he thought he was God or something, 333 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,720 but no one was allowed to defy him. 334 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,760 In my eyes, his feet no longer touched the ground. 335 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,000 He had launched into the stratosphere. 336 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,400 He ended up being surrounded by people who'd only tell him he was great, etc., 337 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,720 so he lost all sense of reality. 338 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:56,920 That contributed to his paranoia and his fear of conspiracies against him. 339 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,600 They were accused of selling Renault's information 340 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,600 to spies in China. 341 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,360 Yes? Hello. 342 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,920 Hello, Patrick. 343 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,800 - How are you? - Good. 344 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,440 I'm meeting with you today 345 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,240 because we have found out that you did something serious. 346 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,640 What? 347 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,680 We're talking about industrial espionage. 348 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,320 I am appalled that you would do something like this. 349 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,120 Sorry, I must not have fully woken up this morning. 350 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,160 I don't understand. 351 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,120 To be completely transparent, some of your sidekicks 352 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,800 are being interviewed in nearby offices as we speak. 353 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,240 They are suspected of the same offenses. 354 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,560 -You are at the center of a strategy-- - But it's-- 355 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,520 - You've done something stupid. - I haven't done anything. 356 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,840 It was stupid, and it was an error. 357 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680 You know all this better than I do, Michel. 358 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,520 I don't know anything. 359 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640 I really don't know what you're talking about. 360 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,440 I know nothing. I understand nothing. 361 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,720 This means that your career, your family, everything is over. 362 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,720 As soon as you leave this room, you are also leaving Renault, Michel. 363 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,720 The thing is, I don't want to be in deep shit for something I didn't do. 364 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,440 You're the one who knows, Michel. 365 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,120 That was our first day back in the office after the holidays. 366 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,880 We went around the offices 367 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,080 to greet everyone and tell them, "Happy New Year." 368 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,880 Then, first thing in the morning, we heard a rumor 369 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,560 that three people had been fired. 370 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,600 We were soon told we could not even talk to them 371 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000 if they called us. 372 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,000 Where are we? 373 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,080 Is this Stalin's USSR? 374 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,160 Three Renault employees, three high-level executives, 375 00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:29,160 are suspected of leaking trade secrets. 376 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:31,920 Three people at the heart of the group have been fired 377 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,400 for divulging strategic information regarding electric cars. 378 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,800 An embarrassing scandal for management. 379 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,560 I was kicked out of this company like a dog. 380 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,200 Renault has made serious allegations, 381 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,000 which I totally refute. 382 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,400 I've not touched any money. I do not have any foreign bank accounts. 383 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,000 I've been transparent. The investigation is now in the hands of the law. 384 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,080 Our guest tonight is Carlos Ghosn. Good evening. 385 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,600 -Good evening. -Thank you for joining us. 386 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,400 As you know, there are many questions surrounding this case. 387 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,440 Did you have formal evidence of their culpability? 388 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,080 Listen, we have certitudes. We wouldn't be here if we didn't. 389 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,640 What you need to know-- 390 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,520 The accused employees were not spies, 391 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,600 they were victims of blackmail. 392 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,240 Yes or no, was there a case of industrial espionage at Renault? 393 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,000 The management team is beginning to show its doubts. 394 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,520 We were all embarrassed. 395 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,840 Everyone was laughing at Renault, 396 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,680 at Carlos Ghosn in particular. 397 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,960 Then finally, a month later, 398 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,240 I can't quite remember the order, 399 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,600 he went back on TV. 400 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,960 -Carlos Ghosn, good evening. -Good evening. 401 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,720 In January, you claimed to have certitudes 402 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,920 and a multitude of evidence of espionage. 403 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,000 It's now become clear that you were wrong, to say the least. 404 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,000 What is your conclusion tonight? 405 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,080 Listen, I was mistaken. 406 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,560 We were mistaken. 407 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,240 And according to the conclusions we have heard from the Paris prosecutor, 408 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,600 it seems that we were deceived. 409 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,800 There's a French expression, "The fish rots from the head down." 410 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,840 We clearly thought upper management had gone crazy. 411 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,520 It was really the beginning of the end for Carlos Ghosn 412 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,000 and the alliance, I'd say. 413 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,360 At this point, you invite the people 414 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,480 who have contributed to this alliance, 415 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,320 not just some friends and, I don't know, 416 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,160 some VIPs and celebrities, such as Cherie Blair. 417 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,200 It was over the top. 418 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,080 It was inappropriate at the very least. 419 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,840 My first reaction was, "Is he an idiot?" 420 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,920 I couldn't believe it. 421 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,760 I took an interest in Renault 422 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,440 because of the behavior of its CEO. 423 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,840 You're dealing with someone who appears to be both a cost killer, 424 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,680 so someone who reduces overhead costs, 425 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,520 who is simultaneously setting up, overseas, out of sight of everyone, 426 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,000 namely Renault and Nissan shareholders, 427 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,840 a giant piggy bank. 428 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,200 He organized 429 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,760 some schemes 430 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,960 that allowed him to embezzle huge sums of money 431 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,920 to buy villas, to buy a yacht, 432 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,160 to buy jewelry. 433 00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:48,600 We can estimate the value of the properties purchased abroad 434 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:54,400 by Mr. Ghosn, under the guise of entities, 435 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,840 and the sums add up to serious amounts. 436 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,080 I think he was a magician in the sense that 437 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,800 he had so much money to work with… 438 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,200 that he was a mastermind at creating a system 439 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,240 that allowed him to do with it what he will. 440 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,680 I hate to say this, 441 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,360 but in my opinion, 442 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,640 the executives at Nissan completely relied on Mr. Ghosn. 443 00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:56,600 They were overly dependent on him. 444 00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:01,800 No one criticized him, and let him do what he wanted. 445 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,520 However, from Nissan's perspective, 446 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,760 I believe they concluded that they wouldn't gain anything 447 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,280 from merging with Renault. 448 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,760 Carlos Ghosn, 449 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,040 Chairman of the Board of Directors of Nissan, Japan… 450 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,920 The emblematic CEO of Renault-Nissan, Carlos Ghosn, 451 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,440 was arrested in Japan today. 452 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,440 My thought was, "So he was finally arrested." 453 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,640 What's incredible is 454 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,920 that the TV stations in Japan had been warned 455 01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:01,320 that he was going to be arrested, and they were there waiting for him. 456 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,160 I remember running Japanese articles through Google Translate 457 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,480 to try and understand what was happening. 458 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,280 We started to understand things 459 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:21,080 when we saw Hiroto Saikawa's press conference. 460 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,000 That's when we realized something incredible was happening. 461 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,720 It was like Game of Thrones, Nissan edition. 462 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,200 It was just totally crazy. 463 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,280 We are furious… 464 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,320 and for me personally… 465 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:43,280 I feel strong disappointment. 466 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:48,480 The problem is one person having so much power. 467 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:53,960 It's the dark side of the Ghosn era that lasted many years. 468 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,360 In Japan, among those who are… 469 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,960 charged with a crime, 470 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,880 99% of them are found guilty. 471 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,840 In Japan, if someone is arrested… 472 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,480 that person's life is over. 473 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:53,400 I met him for the very first time on February 14th, 2019. 474 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,480 It was Valentine's Day. 475 01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:01,720 By that time, he had been in custody for three months already. 476 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:07,120 Mr. Ghosn was questioned every day after he was arrested. 477 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,160 The questionings are not the kind of conversations 478 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,320 one might have over tea and cake. 479 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:32,440 Lawyers in Japan often refer to this arrangement 480 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,240 as the "hostage justice." 481 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,640 It's a world where time moves backwards. 482 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:46,280 A character named the White Queen appears in Alice in Wonderland. 483 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,560 And the White Queen's world moves backwards in time. 484 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,840 That's exactly how a trial is held in Japan. 485 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,680 Punishment comes first. 486 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,560 Then comes the trial. 487 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,160 Then they're judged at the very end. 488 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,160 So time really moves backwards. 489 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,040 After many negotiations with the court, 490 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:41,200 he was released on bail of one billion yen. 491 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,120 At the time, we negotiated with the detention house 492 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,640 so we could get him out the back door. 493 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,560 But for some reason, Tokyo Detention House didn't approve it. 494 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,520 We dressed up Mr. Carlos Ghosn in a Japanese workman's outfit. 495 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,720 Then we loaded him onto a small truck upon his release. 496 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,080 His disguise 497 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,440 was just so pitiful… 498 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,920 The fact that his disguise was basically visible proof that he was 499 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,920 not on the side of justice, 500 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,160 made me feel extremely sad. 501 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,640 You hardly ever get a chance to 502 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:05,600 chase a foreigner, let alone someone famous like Ghosn. 503 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,680 I never dreamt I'd do such a thing. 504 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,760 After he was released on bail, 505 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:16,840 my job as a tabloid journalist was to follow his every move. 506 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,360 It was absolute chaos back then. 507 01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:29,160 It was basically a media scrum. 508 01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:46,840 We chronicled his daily activities for a whole year, 509 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,080 but we never saw him drive a Nissan. 510 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,560 He knew that he was constantly being watched. 511 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,880 There was a surveillance camera 512 01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:40,880 installed at the entrance of his house. 513 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,480 So anyone that visited him, the exact time he left the house, 514 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,560 were all recorded as footage. 515 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,200 The mastermind of the escape was Michael Taylor, 516 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,880 a former American special forces agent 517 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,200 who must have organized a network of ex-combat and private security personnel 518 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,400 to help him research the elaborate escape plan. 519 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:38,400 I think he was already planning his escape 520 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:44,440 when he was released on bail. 521 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,000 That's what I believe. 522 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,520 I heard that whenever he met with anyone, 523 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,720 he usually met them at the Grand Hyatt. 524 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,200 Sometimes he went by car, 525 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,400 and sometimes he walked. 526 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:13,320 It's not an exaggeration to say he went out every day. 527 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:19,880 So the pictures and videos all started to look the same. 528 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,480 He wanted the investigators and guards 529 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,680 to think going to the Grand Hyatt was part of his daily routine 530 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:33,760 and that he wasn't going for any special reason. 531 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,480 I'm guessing that he even knew 532 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,640 where all the cameras were placed. 533 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,760 At the time, he wasn't allowed 534 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,480 to communicate with anyone involved in the case. 535 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,880 So, according to the final bail conditions, 536 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,080 Carlos Ghosn 537 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:09,200 couldn't meet, talk, or even send letters to his wife Carol. 538 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,000 That condition was added. 539 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,720 I found it extremely difficult to have to inform him 540 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,200 of this condition. 541 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:46,320 We ask the president to put pressure on the Japanese government 542 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,320 to respect human rights and the right to a defense 543 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,000 or to let Carlos be tried in France. 544 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,080 You want him to be tried in France? 545 01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:00,560 I think so, because we can see that he won't get a fair trial in Japan. 546 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,200 No matter how many times we tried, 547 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,320 the date of the trial was never settled. 548 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,040 Faced with this situation, 549 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,200 Ghosn wondered how long he'd have to be in Japan. 550 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,720 He started asking when the trial would happen 551 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,120 and whether he would be able 552 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,240 to receive a fair trial. 553 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,880 He began to ask this often. 554 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,080 After he got arrested, 555 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,440 posters appeared in Beirut supporting the Lebanese businessman Carlos Ghosn. 556 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,360 You can't understand Carlos Ghosn, 557 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:08,720 his motivation, what drives him, this desire to succeed, 558 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,440 this desire to win and to show that he's the best, 559 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,920 without understanding the pain of his childhood. 560 01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:23,280 We found an article about Father Boulos Massaad, 561 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,920 who was found dead one evening in April 1960. 562 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,880 He was shot twice. 563 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,320 And near the scene the crime 564 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,120 a Peugeot belonging to Carlos Ghosn's father was seen. 565 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,880 What we came to understand 566 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:46,400 is that the priest, Boulos Massaad, was being used by George Ghosn 567 01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:49,320 to smuggle diamonds from Africa. 568 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,080 He was tried and sentenced to death. 569 01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:58,720 Then in the mid-1970s, civil war had just broken out in Lebanon. 570 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,240 He managed to escape from prison and found refuge in Brazil. 571 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,200 You can imagine, 572 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,680 spending his childhood with his father in prison accused of murder, 573 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,440 even sentenced to death for murdering a priest, 574 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,320 would be really hard. 575 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,160 Carlos Ghosn created his own legend his whole life. 576 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,720 ONE LAST SECRET 577 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:33,320 The account of a life that wasn't exactly the one he lived. 578 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,840 So he probably felt this need 579 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,440 to show all the people he grew up with, 580 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:44,240 to say to them, "Look how successful I've become in spite of my background, 581 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,480 in spite of my father's story, of my life." 582 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,400 "There you go. I've achieved great things." 583 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,040 I saw him for the last time on the 26th. 584 01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,160 He came up to me and said, 585 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:05,280 "Keiko…" "I'm going to pay you." 586 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,480 I was surprised because he didn't have to pay me yet. 587 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,040 But he asked for all my receipts 588 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,560 and paid me. 589 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,600 He told me to choose any wine I wanted 590 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,080 and he gifted me two bottles. 591 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,640 He asked to take a picture together. 592 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,560 He'd never asked before, so it made me very happy. 593 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,240 He even gave me a hug. 594 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,280 He's not usually the type of person who gives hugs. 595 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,440 So I think he gave me a hug because 596 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,240 he was going to run. 597 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,760 He knew it was the last time, 598 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:50,000 so he gave me the gift, the hug, and even took a picture with me. 599 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,160 It made me happy. 600 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,960 On the 29th, Michael Taylor 601 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:30,760 flew into Kansai International Airport from Dubai on a private jet. 602 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:55,000 Carlos Ghosn left his house at 2:30 p.m. on the 29th. 603 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,800 I left the house wearing normal clothes. 604 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,600 So if someone saw me on the street, they would recognize me. 605 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:19,960 Ghosn arrived at the Grand Hyatt. 606 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,520 When I left the hotel, I wore something I don't usually wear. 607 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:08,240 He met with his three accomplices at the hotel. 608 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,920 I left the hotel to go to the airport, 609 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,480 which means you have to take a taxi, then the train. 610 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,880 You'll be on the train for two or three hours surrounded by people. 611 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:46,600 You mustn't draw attention. 612 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:06,720 There was no way I could walk through the airport with my face. 613 01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:24,760 At Shin-Osaka, they took another taxi. 614 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,360 From there… 615 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,440 they headed to the hotel that Michael Taylor had reserved, 616 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:36,920 which is connected to Kansai International Airport. 617 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,920 I had to get on the plane without anyone seeing me. 618 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,120 How do you get on a plane without being seen? The check-in baggage. 619 01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:20,600 From that moment on, 620 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,560 Carlos Ghosn did not appear on any CCTV cameras. 621 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:29,040 You can say he disappeared. 622 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,640 When they left the hotel, 623 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,400 it was around 10:00 p.m., 624 01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:47,280 9:57 p.m. to be precise. 625 01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,080 The issue was to get on the plane, inside a box, 626 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,440 without going through the X-ray. 627 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,520 We decided Osaka would be the right place. 628 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:13,920 And it also had to be done at the end of the year. 629 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,680 Why? Because people go on holiday then. 630 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,200 So permanent staff are away, and they're replaced by temporary staff. 631 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,880 Temporary staff aren't as knowledgeable on procedures. 632 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,640 It took about four to five people including myself 633 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,600 to lift the large box. 634 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,000 One of the staff members joked, 635 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:04,000 "Maybe there's a beautiful young woman in the box." 636 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,560 Mr. Taylor told me 637 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,680 they were violinists… 638 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,720 …but I did feel that it was strange. 639 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,400 The two men had a guitar case instead of a violin case. 640 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:46,520 The crucial stage was getting through security. 641 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:52,080 This was the moment Ghosn was most likely to be discovered. 642 01:24:53,600 --> 01:25:00,160 It was vital the box did not go through the X-ray machine. 643 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,760 When you are at a point in your life… 644 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,320 …when it's all or nothing… 645 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,360 …to know how to react in case something happens. 646 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,080 The surprising, exciting events in Carlos Ghosn's story… 647 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:16,600 I was happy for him and wanted to cheer for him. 648 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,480 He could finally see his family… 649 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,800 I was truly happy for him. 650 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,880 I shed tears of joy for him. 651 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,640 But at the same time, I was sad. 652 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,160 But I think it was tears of joy. 653 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,800 I judged that the evidence was not strong enough 654 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,800 to find him guilty. 655 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,240 If he really stands on the side of justice, 656 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,840 why did he have to go so far 657 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:41,240 as to hide in a miserable black box to flee? 658 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,400 I feel quite disappointed. 659 01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,960 Now he is stuck forever. 660 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:55,360 And he's lost all his power, lost everything he loved. 661 01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:58,480 He's become the naked king, completely naked.