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- [Narrator] From humble beginnings
to legendary award-winning journalist,
Jaime Maussan has been trusted as the voice
of the people in Mexico for more than 47 years.
For the first time the audience will have access to the information of a UFO case
That code we explain using the technology and knowledge we have on earth
This case was carefully studied by our 60 minutes team
and it turns out to be amazing and fascinating
Joining us to talk about the UFO subject the specialist
Arturo Garza Rodriguez director of Alternative UFO
Good morning thank you for being in here with us
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Mr. Joel Sampayo climate, sky reports and skeptic.
Good morning thank you for being in here with us
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UFO Specialist Jaime Maussan good morning
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In the mid '90s, Maussan brought the subject
of UFOs to the spotlight.
- Then I became the anchor and finally the director
of this show that was on the air until 1995.
From then on, I became involved with something
that I thought was very important.
UFOs.
I know many people think that they are not important
that they are an illusion or fantasy
but I realized that many people had cameras
at the beginning of the '90s
and they were able to record the UFOs.
And I thought that I had a chance
with these evidences to change the way people think.
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- [Narrator] Maussan has received
the United Nations Global 500 Award,
three times the National Prize of Journalism in Mexico,
the Ondas Award for journalists in Spain.
He was recognized at the Capitol in Washington, DC.
Currently he is presenting "Third Millennium News"
from Monday to Friday at 10:00 p.m. on national television.
This news has set the standard for audience records
for the channel a+ (A Mas) on several occasions.
"Tercer Milenio" continues to be presented
every Sunday on prime time after 22 years
of uninterrupted transmission on Mexican TV.
- I was not gonna be a journalist.
I was gonna be an administrative worker for my father.
He had a company and he wished
that I was able to take care of his company.
And I never thought that I wanted to be a journalist.
Because 50 years ago,
the journalist in Mexico were not very honest.
They wanted money for everything they put
on the TV or in a newspaper.
And my father was a rancher, he had bull fights.
He was also impresario for big bull rings.
He organized bull fights.
Even my aunt was a bull fighter.
Then I was going to become one.
But at the same time,
my father wanted me to take care of his business.
But in the last day when I had to choose my major,
a friend of mine came to me and asked me
what was going to be my future,
what kind of major I was going to choose,
business administration something like that.
And he said, "Oh, that's boring."
And I said, "Why?"
Because it's just numbers,
it's just in a closed place with no windows.
And I said, "What are you going to study?"
He said journalism.
And I said, "Oh, you're going to be a corrupt man.
You're gonna try to take money from people."
And he said, "No, journalism is to change the world.
Journalism is the possibility to create conscious.
Journalism is traveling.
Journalism is going into the open
and reporting what you find."
And I liked that.
And I immediately changed my major,
probably the best decision I have done in my life.
Then I decided, but my father didn't like the idea.
And at the same time,
he knew that the journalists in Mexico were corrupt.
And I said to my father,
"I will never ever, Father, take any money from anyone.
I'm gonna be a very clean and honest journalist."
And I have kept that promise until now.
I've been an honest man all my life.
And thanks to that,
I've been able to develop credibility.
When I was a young kid, I saw the destruction of nature
but I didn't know why I didn't like it.
I knew that the animals were being killed,
that there was a business doing with animals,
that anybody could take an animal
from their habitats and sell it.
When I found journalism,
when I found my real passion for life,
I really started to try to change my world.
And I was able to do it in many ways
because I worked in television with the most
important journalist in Mexico, Jacobo Zabludovsky,
the Walter Cronkite of the US,
a man that was very well known everywhere in Mexico.
And I became very close to him, in many ways his right hand,
even though I was a teenager.
When I did my first report,
I took my report to Cannes in France.
I was just 19.
And I received a scholarship from the US
from an American university, University of Ohio.
And I was able to finish my career there.
When I came back, I started working in journalism
to try to protect the environment,
to try to protect the woods and the jungles.
I was able to find the Monarch butterfly in Mexico there,
the hidden places where they hibernate.
Fred Urquhart, a Canadian scientist,
he's the one who found it, I mean,
he's the one who really tracked the Monarch butterfly.
But he published his article in National Geographic.
He never said what it was.
My network Televisa asked me to go and find the place.
It took us two years to find it, but we finally did.
And I was able to present for the first time
to the Mexican people the Monarch butterfly
and I was able to get protection for the Monarch butterfly.
Then working in "60 Minutes" in Mexico as reporter,
I was able to get involved
with the protection of the turtles.
In Mexico, we used to kill the turtles in slaughterhouses.
And thanks to my report in "60 Minutes," they were closed.
We created laws to protect the turtles.
And that's the reason why some
of these species of turtles have now recuperated.
I was able to do many things to speak
about the climate change or the global warming back to 1986.
I was able to speak about the El Nino current
in '87 or the depletion of the solar layer in '88.
We were just two journalists
from all around the world who went
with NASA to the North Pole to report
if there was a hole in the North Pole,
as the one that had been observed in the South Pole.
They found that no, there was not a hole.
It was a little bit depleted
but we didn't have the same problem.
Because of the currents are different in both poles.
Anyway, I was able to be there with a German journalist
and even the NASA people were amazed
that they said a reporter,
a journalist from a tropical country is here.
Why the Americans, why the Europeans are not here?
But I was very much involved
in the protection of environment.
And when I found that news,
the Televisa allowed me to go and participate
with NASA in these investigations back in January, 1988.
And I was able to do many other things like,
for example, to help the Tarahumaras
in the Sierra in Mexico.
They were dying of hunger and cold.
And also in '88, '87, we were able to get thousands
of tons of food for them with that report
in "60 Minutes" in Mexico.
Then I became the anchor and finally the director
of this show that was on the air until 1995.
From then on, I became involved with something
that I thought was very important.
UFOs.
I know many people think that they are not important,
that they are an illusion or fantasy,
but I realized that many people had cameras
at the beginning of the '90s
and they were able to record the UFOs.
And I thought that I had a chance with these evidences
to change the way people think.
Back in '90, '91, there was a total solar eclipse in Mexico,
probably the longest or the second longest
in the whole century, six minutes and 54 seconds.
And people, many people in Mexico recorded the solar eclipse
but some people got UFOs in the middle of their videos.
And I thought that was very important.
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Hours later during the astronomical phenomenon
on TV program 24 Hours with Jacobo Zabkudevsky
Guillermo Arreguin's video showed a flying saucer
which was silver color on the top side and dark underneath
it seemed to be spinning and flew for several minutes over Mexico
Days later, more videos appeared and this was the beginning of the
most important UFO surge of the 90s and that it remains till this day
But this also reignited Mexican culture of watching the sky
Obviously other voices cried out that this was a misinterpretation
images or that it was the planet Venus, However up until 2009
those voices have not presented any analysis or research
to end the controversy
What is clear for us is that this unidentified flying object
was seen in different places of central Mexico which implies that this
wasn't something imagined. Since the same object appears in most of the videos
This video was seen around the world and has been presented in different
TV programs. This solar eclipse began a new era of study and research of UFOs
phenomenon in our country because citizens had in their hands the necessary
technology to record those strange ufos which they could only talk about before
or say, "I saw one". So, they know now how important video cameras are
- I was invited to this program because I had done a report
on "60 Minutes" about Billy Meier and people identified me.
But as a matter of fact,
I didn't want to go to this television show
because I thought that UFOs were not good for journalists,
that they were very risky
and I shouldn't get involved with this.
But my company, my network asked me to go
to the show, "Y usted que opina?"
And it was so successful that they asked me to go
for a second time and I didn't want to go.
I really didn't want to go.
I said, "That's it, no more UFOs please."
But this man insisted, "Please, this is the last time.
Let's do another show
because you know how many people saw these,
millions and millions and millions of people.
And I want to do a new one."
And I say, "Okay, but this is the last one.
This is really the last show."
And I went there and I was able to find these videos
that were recorded by some people
of the eclipse where they found UFOs.
When I presented this, very early in the morning,
probably three or four o'clock in the morning,
it was a revolution.
Thousands of people came to the television.
At five o'clock in the morning,
there were more than five or 10,000 people
outside the station because they wanted to get in
because they were so excited with these videos.
And after that show, nothing was the same for me in my life.
I received many invitations
from different universities in Mexico.
Then I received invitations from international congresses
around the world and I couldn't get away.
I couldn't get away anymore.
Then I started without even thinking
to get so much involved because people send me videos
and hundreds of videos of UFOs.
And then I realized that this was very important.
This was a new phenomenon,
a phenomenon inside the phenomenon,
where people were recording these things with cameras
because everybody had a camera now
or many people had a camera, VHS back in 1991.
And I thought with the development of technology,
more and more and more people are gonna have cameras.
And then I said, well, I am very sure in the future
everyone is gonna have a camera
and we be able to have many more videos,
many more evidences.
And I started to promote people to watch the sky,
when they have time to watch the sky
and record whatever it was there.
I never thought this was gonna be successful
but then I received one video recorded by one person,
and then another and another and another
and then dozens and then hundreds.
And then I didn't know what to do
with so much evidence I had.
In 1995 ended "60 Minutes" and I received more
and more invitations to present conferences.
And I went all around Mexico, and I mean all around Mexico,
presenting all the evidences with full theaters.
And I'm talking thousand people, 2,000 people everywhere.
And I couldn't escape anymore.
I became the center of this phenomenon in Mexico.
In 1997, I started the show, "Tercer Milenio" on Televisa.
That lasted until 2003.
Then when out of the air.
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- Televisa had a huge network,
the national network in Mexico, asked me to come back
and present "Tercer Milenio" in 2004.
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We are in the midst of a reality that changes
It evolves
It's closer to us everyday
Clear messages that appear in the farmlands of England
that can't be considered the pranks of a few hoaxers
Our job has been to bring this information to you
to get you closer
This is the age of encounter
We must realize that we live in extraordinary times
And I did it
and I have been on the air since 2004 until now.
A very successful show.
Now it's running in a different network,
also a national network, Azteca, and we have even grow
in numbers in ratings for around
2 million people watch the show every week,
which probably should be considered the most
successful show on UFOs around the world.
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- UFOs have been the stuff of conspiracy theorist
for decades often mocked for talking about it.
But maybe they shouldn't be mocked.
Commander David Fravor spent 18 years
as a Naval aviator pilot.
In 2004, he had an unforgettable encounter with an aircraft
he said was defying the laws of physics.
Commander Fravor joins us tonight.
Thanks for coming on tonight.
Tell us what you saw.
- Well, we had launched on a routine training mission.
When we joined up, we were told
that the event was gonna be canceled
and then we have real-world tasking
and we were sent out to the west.
Now take in mind that this has taken place
about a hundred miles southwest of San Diego,
between San Diego and Ensenada, Mexico
on a clear perfect day, blue waters.
We get out to the spot where they tell us it's at,
we start looking around and both of us,
both airplanes see a disturbance in the water
and a white 40 foot long Tic Tac shaped object
just hovering above the water going forward,
back, left to right.
There's no rotor wash.
There's no wings, nothing.
So as we drive around in a clockwise flow,
we get to about the nine o'clock position,
and I said I'm gonna go down and check it out
and the other jet is gonna stay high.
So as we go down, when we get to the 12 o'clock position,
it starts to mirror us.
So it's in a clockwise flow and it's
on the opposite side of the circle from us.
And we continue, it's in a climb or in a descent,
we're getting a great look at it.
This whole thing takes about probably up
to five minutes from the time we show up.
I get over to the eight o'clock position.
it's at about the two o'clock position
and I decide I'm gonna go and see what it is
and it's about 2,000 feet below me.
And I cut across the circle and as I get within
about a half mile of it, it rapidly accelerates
to the south in about two seconds and disappears.
At one moment you were surrounded by these objects
According to the information I heard from the back cabin
from the chief operational coordinator there came a moment that he saw
on the screens that the objects were in the back
on the left side and in front of us. It was at that moment when
I felt a little tension
- What would you estimate the speed?
- At well above supersonic.
Like a bullet out of a gun, it took off.
- So from what you know about aerodynamics,
mechanics, physics, should this be possible, what you saw?
- Not with the technology that we have today.
Not at all.
- Even now, even 13 years later,
is there anything that you know of capable
of this kind of you have behavior?
- No, there is nothing I know of.
When we saw the video with the IRR,
it has no exhaust it, no discernible things
of anything form of propulsion,
and this thing came from a dead hover
over the water just kind of moving around
to a climb up to about 12,000 feet
to rapidly accelerating away in a climb
and in less than two seconds, it was gone.
And you figure, you're talking 50 miles of visibility
and you can easily see an object
that size easily out to 10 miles
and it just disappeared in seconds.
But in spite of that they never could see them?
We could never identify them visually with the naked eye
So it was only possible to detect the presence of them through FLIR?
Yes only with the infrared FLIR system, precisely
That is, they were invisible to the eye?
I think so because none of the crew members could see it
with the naked eye
From that distance, should you have been able to see them?
The closest we were was two miles which a normal object
or aircraft, experience tells me that we should have been able to
That's the question we are left with from that operation
- What would be the effects on a human pilot
of the G-forces involved in that altitude change?
- Well, the altitude wouldn't be bad.
It would be the acceleration of the object.
Well, honestly, I wanted to fly it.
- Yeah, I bet.
- Talking to some physicists,
they don't think the human body could handle
that kind of force with that acceleration.
- It doesn't sound like the human body could.
So bottom line, what do you think this was?
- I believe, as do the other folks
that were on the flight when we visually saw it,
that it was something not from this world.
- Presumably, you expressed that belief to your superiors.
What did they say?
- Actually, we caught a lot of grief getting back
to the boat and it got passed off as an event
that no one could explain.
Now, keep in mind, they had been tracking these
for two weeks prior to us seeing it.
And this was the first time that manned airplanes
had been airborne when the objects appeared.
- This feels like a really big story to me.
It's not exactly clear why Vladimir Putin's
more interesting than this.
I think this seems like a big deal.
And Commander, I appreciate your taking the time
to talk to us about it.
- Back in 2004, the Secretary of Defense
in Mexico called me to deliver a video to me.
They recorded this video on March the fifth, 2004,
close to the Campeche area
but the plane was in the middle of the jungle.
They were able to record these lights
following the airplane.
11 lights following the airplane.
The Mexican scientists went to the television to say
that they were, how you say, lightning or energy in there.
Bolt lighting, 11 bolt lighting following
and surrounding an airplane.
They went to the Secretary of Defense later
and said, "Oh, we are sorry.
Oh, we were wrong, sorry.
But they would never say that publicly.
You see?
But they know they were wrong
because the Secretary of Defense wouldn't deliver a video
of UFOs if he knew it was something else.
Then I can tell you that proves that in Mexico
even the authorities are ready to accept this.
The only reason we don't do it is because
we don't want to confront the US.
We don't want to confront the scientists from the US
because they would make fun of the Mexican government
and they would make jokes about that.
Nobody's ready for that.
more information on the target
It's traveling at speed 206 and it's on a 3.01 course
Here it goes, here it goes, there it goes, there it goes
And why are you picking it up until now?
What is it, Juarez? Juarez, what is it?
It is a point
A point
There it is
It's directly behind us
Correct, now it's at 7 o'clock position with 10.5 miles
It's on course 2.83 and 3.34 speed. Well, I am about to lose it on the
radar and it's about to leave
At 7 o'clock at the same altitude
There are some clouds. It should be there
What are we seeing here...There are some important apsects
to comment on in addition to the audio of the 501 squad crew
You can see two very large lights and below them
a point that is not as bright
but that is where the X is indicating maximum heat
that is, the biggest energy point of those lights precisely below
Let's see, what we have here?
Nothing Sir
Yes
Commander, what is that?
What was the distance more or less, Tellez?
Hey, get ready... it's like...
There are more. More are following behind
There are 10 or 11 objects
Another important aspect is that we see the objects are moving
for those who suggested that these were, in fact, oil wells, the oil well burners
But we can clearly see, with the clouds for reference.
it remains more or less stable and the objects are moving while the clouds
appear to be still. Another very important aspect. I want you to see the numbers that
are on the left of your screen, there you will see a zero.
inside the zero is a small arrow. That arrow is indicating the inclination
of the FLIR camera
There they go, there they go
Three, four, five, six... There are six of them...
That is to say that it is literally at the horizon. It is not focused
toward the ground, it is literally facing toward the horizon and the aircraft was
flying at 3,500 meters
And they're moving at speed but...
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven
eight on the screen
Follow them, do not lose them
Don't scare me
Look out the window. We have one at approximately
One O'clock and the others remain at nine
They have you surrounded?
Well, I don't know
How far?
It only tells me
Today is your lucky day, young men
We are not alone
They are surrounding us
One at 1 o'clock
At one, I have it 14.8 miles with course 99 and speed of 52
He is following one and I am following the other one
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Okay, one is on the radar, on FLIR We are seeing it on FLIR
It is a luminous object, it is in the opposite direction of us
but it does not leave us, it is two miles behind us
- I received a call from the secretary
of the Secretary of Defense in Mexico.
She asked me to come.
I had an appointment, I went there,
I sit down in an office, nobody was there.
And when I realized I was in the drug traffic
from the administration from the military,
and I said, "Jesus Christ, what happened?
Did somebody say that I did something?
What I'm doing here?
I have to go, I have to go.
This is the good."
And then they came and say,
"Mr. Maussan, can you come with us please?"
And I said, "Jesus Christ, what is gonna happen now?"
And they took me to a little theater
and they put the video on and they all said,
"Can you explain this please?"
And I saw it and I said,
"Jesus, are these things following the airplane?"
"Yes, and they surrounded the airplane."
Yes.
"Can I talk to the pilots?"
"No, first tell us what you think."
And I say, "Well, I think they are UFOs."
The video had been recorded with a FLIR camera.
This camera was, in 2004, just for the military.
It was a very specialized camera
that could track the infrared
and could track the heat in the airspace.
They were using this camera in this airplane
because they were looking for narcotics
from drugs from South America.
And they were in the area where is the shortest
in Mexico from coast to coast.
And the airplanes had to go through there.
And it was fairly easy to track these drug dealers.
And they use this special equipment.
And the military saw these lights.
They couldn't see the lights with their eyes.
They just saw it with the camera.
But they knew, they had a screen in the airplane
and they were looking at the screen
even though they couldn't find it in the air,
in the in the atmosphere, it was on the camera.
And they got very nervous, especially when
they were surrounded by these lights.
The captain turned off the navigation lights
because he thought he was gonna be confronted by these UFOs.
Then some people came and tried to explain
that video saying that they were oil rigs.
- [Interviewer] Letting off fire-
- Exactly and some other things, missiles
and so many really crazy things.
But the military were there every day
for many hours in the same place
and they never saw something like this.
And they couldn't explain it.
When I told them that these were UFOs,
they said, "Okay, thank you very much, Mr. Maussan."
And I left.
They didn't tell me anything else.
I receive a call again a couple of days later
and they say, "The Secretary of Defense want
to see you personally in his office."
I went there and then he asked me,
"What do you think they are?"
And I said, "UFOs, can I talk to the crew?"
"You will, you will.
You are gonna be the only one who's gonna do that.
I'm going to give you the tape.
You can do whatever you want.
Just remember that you have the honor and the pride
of the Armed Forces of Mexico in your hearts.
Be very careful."
When we made a turn to go towards Campeche the FLIR camera operator
detected a white
a target without form. It was shining. It was detected by the
infrared camera...
and it was being observed at all times with that camera
Later we saw that we...
We saw other targets on the left side
of the aircraft, Apparently, there were eleven targets
In this case, we can assume that these eleven points
that produced heat and that are seen through the FLIR video
were they there even though they were not visible?
They were there, and we referenced that by their positions
They were always to the left of us, flying at the same height, and at approximately
the same speed. Well, we tried to find
an image and the points remained hot at all times, completely hot
Very hot?
Very hot. They did have an irregular shape They were always circles
Is this irregular with respect to aircraft?
that you have previously detected?
Yes, it is irregular because they did not have a shape
they did not have a shape of any object I have seen before
In other words, you have never seem or experienced this before?
It had never happened to me, it is something that
I don't know what to say, I can't tell you what it was
I couldn't relate this experience to something I saw before
- "If somebody asks you who gave you this video?"
I thought, "Oh, he's gonna to say,
'You don't know who gave you this.'"
"You are gonna say that the Secretary of Defense
gave you these video."
And I say, "Jesus Christ."
My pants almost fell down.
I had this evidence, they have given me this evidence
and the Secretary of Defense of Mexico was supporting me
whatever I did with this.
I felt a big responsibility.
I investigated everything I could with this tape.
I had a chance to interview all the crew,
the captain, and the cameraman,
and everyone that was inside the plane
and all of them told me, "This is real,
we've never seen anything like this."
And then I presented this video in a national
television program in Mexico, in the newscast,
in the most important newscast on may, the ninth, 2004.
Next day, I gave a press conference and
all the international media came to the press conference.
I gave them this video and next night or that night
it was everywhere around the world in every single newscast.
I don't think there is a sighting of UFOs
that has been presented everywhere
like this happened in 2004.
And then I thought that I had done my job the best I could.
I never expected that the explanations
that were gonna be given to this incredible
video were gonna be so stupid as they were.
Simultaneously recording video in the normal visual spectrum
and infrared spectrum. This is the official name of the system
developed by Pedro Avila, a Mexican that watches sky
He's the creator of the technique that some say
is a tool to study the UFO phenomenon worldwide
Well, first of all, it makes me very proud to know that what
I'm presenting here is something real. It's something genuine
Pedro Avila, national director of the sky watchers
who from this window recorded the most amazing unidentified flying objects
is the creator of the technique which the official name of this system is
Simultaneous video-recording technique in the normal and infrared spectrum
- After I learned that there were UFOs
that were invisible to the eye,
I proposed that idea on television.
And Pedro Avila, a UFO hunter who cannot walk,
he's in a chair, he's looking through
his window all day long, built a device to put two cameras,
one infrared and one normal spectrum,
and he was able, it's the only time that
this has ever been done everywhere,
where you have a camera recording in the normal spectrum
and the other camera in the infrared.
And you can see this object in the infrared
and you cannot clearly see anything
in the normal spectrum proving that there are UFOs
that are not visible to the eyes, to the sight.
And I think that was very important.
From then on, more and more people
and with the development of technology,
even the FLIR technology now available to many people,
to almost anyone who wants to have a FLIR camera now,
you can have it, and now many people are recording
these invisible UFOs everywhere and it is just amazing.
And we are proving now that what was said 15 years ago
with the military in Mexico,
it's happening in many, many places right now.
- [Dave] You've got it from a few different locations
where they filmed this, is that right, Darcy,
that's in the documentary itself?
- [Darcy] Yeah, actually the two videos that were used
in the documentary that were pretty popular
on TV network circulation back in the '90s
when this first happened were from the vantage point
of Puebla, which is just north of Mexico City,
it's another little city, and Mexico City.
So another famous UFO sighting
was the Jerusalem Temple Rock,
a UFO that kind of hovered around the dome there.
And that was recorded by, I think,
five different individuals walking around the city.
- [Dave] Are there specific hotspots where
these craft are being seen continually?
- [Maussan] It comes from time to time.
Right now, for example, from the last few years,
couple three or four years, we've been receiving many videos
from the northwest of Mexico around Rosarito, Tijuana,
San Diego in California, even around Los Angeles.
Around five, 10 years ago, there were hundreds of videos
that were coming from Russia.
Probably Russia is because of the development
of new nuclear weapons because they happen mostly
around St. Petersburg in the Crimean Peninsula.
They all just are mostly in places
where they have some interest.
- [Dave] Now you said that there's
another really massive siting something-
- [Maussan] Oh yeah, yeah, let me tell you about it.
- [Dave] The people might not be aware of.
- The second interview and I'm waiting to do
that third interview.
On the morning, four o'clock in the morning
of December 19th, there was a huge,
and I mean a huge UFO pyramid above the Pentagon?
Some people say, "Oh, it's animation."
No.
I was able to find, I think I am the only one
who has investigated this case,
the pyramids was just 300 feet from the ground
and in the middle of the Pentagon, above the Pentagon.
The images are incredible.
Three different people,
one of them that was walking with his dog.
Another two people who were in a taxi, in a cab.
And the third one was taking photographs
inside the cemetery in Arlington.
The three of them with cameras in their hands,
because they couldn't do it with a cell phone,
were able to get incredible images
of these pyramid moving and rotating above the Pentagon.
What is amazing is that normally in the US,
not a single media, not The Washington Post,
The New York Times, CBS, NBC, et cetera, et cetera.
- [Man] What's that?
This is aliens, I tell you.
Yes, yes, I'm really sorry but I was talking.
- [Man] Oh man, what is this?
- [Man] This is a fucking alien invasion.
- [Man] Do you see it?
Where is it?
Give me the camera.
What is this?
I mean, what the fuck is that?
- [Man] Turn left, left!
Have we lost it?
- [Man] Look back, look back!
- [Man] I got you, baby.
I see it.
- [Man] Turn right, turn right, turn right!
Do you see it?
- [Man] Can it be like a ancient God?
- [Man] You're stupid.
- [Man] Slow down, man, slow down.
What?
It's gone.
I don't, I don't see it.
Man, do you see it?
- [Man] I've heard something on the news.
Something about Russian military.
- [Man] No, it's not Russia.
- [Man] It's Pentagon.
- [Man] I seen it already, man.
- [Man] It's a bomber, it was announced the news.
You know.
- [Man] No, man.
- [Man] Turn on the radio, it should tell us something.
Turn on the radio.
- [Jaime] Has done anything around this incredible case.
We found something very similar that happened
on December the ninth, 2010 above the Kremlin.
In the Red Square in Moscow, exactly the same object.
This was recorded and presented by RT.
- The Kremlin has been circled by a UFO.
Well, that's if you believe a video which has soared
to the top of YouTube's Russian website.
The pictures apparently shot from a passing
car have become an online sensation.
Another YouTube clip filmed during
daylight shows a fuzzy gray object
on the skyline near Red Square.
Skeptics, however, say that if the images were real
the public would have reported sightings to police
who are currently making no comment.
- [Jaime] And in different media newscasts in Russia,
it was never presented in the US.
And it's exactly the same thing.
And I believe that sighting has a lot of meaning.
I now know why it was there that day.
That day Donald Trump signed the memorandum
creating the space combat command,
the US Space Combat Command that very same day.
Amicizia - friendship was an experiment carried out
by beings from another world to try to establish
communication with humans to help our development
- [Interviewer] This is very difficult to understand this.
- Not really so.
I believe it is in the moment you accept the idea
that the people for other stars may live here.
Then all comes immediately, it's quite easy to accept it.
According to Stefano Breccia
Not only was a group established on Earth
a group that they called w56
but there were others who were given the name
of opposites or the CTR who had other interests and values
this situation generated a conflict between both groups
that even caused the death of some involved
they explained to Bruno Samacicia and Giancarlo De Carlo
that this group of aliens are on our planet because
they are very concerned about the destructive attitude
that man on Earth has toward nature
These beings explain that they are very concerned
about the atomic bomb
that a nuclear weapon, in the event of a war
could destroy all of humanity in a few minutes
Then they explained that they are here to take care of our planet
and possibly humanity
According to the witnesses and the account of Stefano Breccia
in his book mass contact, all those beings
who participated in amicicia were moved by the deep morality
and sincere humanism of these beings
unable to imagin even doing harm to any person or animal
however they liked to eat well, drink and even smoke sometimes
They liked to play tennis and play musical instruments such as the violin
it was their decision to keep this story a secret
even though on some occasions news about their activity came out
the news was vague and uncertain
According to Stefano Breccia there were many who suspected
that something was happening but
no one outside the group could imagine how great and deep
the contact with extraterrestrial beings was
One of the participants who prefers to remain anonymous
confessed to the researcher Nicola Duper
that in 2008 there were 200 beings from the group that was called w56
The w because it meant life and the 56 for the year
in which the contact was made
a disk is not generally used for travel but as a mobile laboratory
it is also important to know that a ship is built and
disassembled at the end of the task which it was made for
a ship is not a single block but rather more parts held together
by a force that can be defined as gravitational
for the humans sometimes it is not easy to define the type
of technology used by these beings
The technology and every part of it is so advanced
this it is not conceivable for the poor
Earthlings who struggle to understand the simplest of things
without complete success in most cases, another but
very important curiosity, is that a spacecraft of this type
But also all the others, even large ones, are built with iron
what we ofter call synthesized
in fact, a small ship like the one in the photo above
weighs around 15 to 20 tons of iron
The iron that w56 uses is no different from what we use
except in a quality inaccessible to us for now
This iron is of the polarized type, therefore it is capable of
of offering qualities that no amorphous iron can possess
amorphous, is an electric abnormality on the atomic level
the amorphous solid, is a solid that has no form
of its own and lacks crystaline lattice structure
with a long-range order of positioned atoms
solids in which there is a long-range atomic order called crystalline solids
crystalline material metals are difficult to prepare in an amorphous condition
the solidification process generally has to be done very quickly
unless the material has a high melting temperature like ceramic
or a low level of crystallization
what usually happens with polymers, in the iron from w56
it has crystaline lattice structure
this type of iron is not a thermal conductor, nor an electric conductor
it is non-magnetic and radiation resistant
But it can be made transparent by applying an
electromagnetic field at a certain power level
this peculiarity in fact explains why flying saucers
are sometimes invisible during sightings
There is more, the transparent surface can be unilateral
that is only from the inside out or bilateral
that is from the outside in and vice versa and in that case
you can see a disk like this
Regarding the bases of these beings, according to Stefano Breccia
it was widely said that the aliens of w56
had built a huge, very deep and practical underground base
located at the bottom of the continental mass
and many more typically small ones at shallow depths
the large base was a point of reference for all their European activities
and normally it was housing machinery
the smaller bases were used as places for living
they said that they had other bases withing our solar system
but they were not stable structures
Actually generating or destroying a base was a very simple process for them
let's think of two linear magnets initially parallel to eachother
rotating one of them around its center of gravity the lines of force
will become more and more intertwined as the angle
between the magnets increases after a critical attraction
the lines of force of the magnetic field will change abruptly, arranging themselves
in a new arrangement that prevents them from twisting too much
Our friends, on the other hand, were able to generate what they called a magnetic rope
that is, a structure where the lines of force were
stricly twisted around each other
Such effect had the ability of opening the matter,
compressing it sideways, crushing it on itself
translucent walls were almost crystalline with an astronomical density
an equally high modulus of longitudinal elasticity and an incredible force
were thus able to open the cavities that would become their bases
obviously without damaging in any way the tectonic
structures that surrounded it, on the contrary
probably by strengthening them, said structure remained stable as long
as the fields that generated it were active
it was enough to turn off these fields with click of a button
to immediately return the matter back to it's original form
similarly they were opening passages to access their bases when they needed them
closing them immediately when they were no longer in use, rarely with very small bases
Just below the ground stable corridors were used in the large bases where also large
ships generally in orbit around our sun aligned with respect to the ecliptic
at first it seems that there were three different races
the redheads, the copper-haired people, the black-haired people
more similar to our indians today, the third race had greenish-white hair
by the way their skin was colored similar to their hair
these three races have evolved together with the passage of time they began
to reproduce between eachother so that a new race was born
before dying Bruno Sammaciccia told us some of the most important messages
he had received from the beings called w56
the first words they said were
"this land was made for good but the men who inhabit it"
"are transforming everything into evil"
"we are not here to conquer, we have nothing to overcome"
"our interests arise from the fact that"
"your land is within our stars"
Gaspare De Lama participated in the amicizia project
between 1960 and 1965, I kept secret some of the evidence
that proves that the case really happened
as the witnesses have assured
Gaspare, because of his closeness to Bruno Samaciccia, the leader of the
group of humans in Italy, received photographs and
made some of the films that still exist
Here I am as a young man, 41 years of age, here is Bruno
Sammaciccia? Sammaciccia
in the little green garden of the village Montesilvano
he always told me, "Don't betray your memories" It is written in the photo
Gaspare agreed to show some of the 8mm photographs
and films that he still has in his possession
do you see this black part here? we called this "Penachito" this is a small model
of about 4 meters this is model
it was remotely controlled
it does not require a crew member
It had a small detector that we called "the little mouse"
in additon to the video, we also took pictures of this craft, it was a kind of...
now I speak in an incorrect non-scientific way, it was a kind of energy that condenses
I saw that it was on the surface, I don't know what kind of energy it was
It is in an irregular way, here you see it and here it does not come off
in these photos the energy appears and dissappears, in the same disk
this disk followed us until we got close to Milan in these photos
we are taking this photo from an open field
we had an appointment with this disk
by the w56 to record it with photos and film
This disk here, it was a gift from them to me, they said
"you will see the technology we have"
They lived most of their time in their huge underground bases but
some of them lived among us within our society playing
all kinds of roles in the world
One was a university researcher, another the managing director of a fairly
important textile company in the center of Italy
a third was a senior manager at one of the largest German telecommunications
companies names T.L.C
But the most important difference between all the contact stories that can be read
is the role that we Earthlings play in the eyes of our counterparts from off world
this was expressed many times that we inhabitants of this distressed planet
enjoy unique psychic abilities while we are unaware of it
the w56 said this ability was one of the main reasons they came here
"often it was even fun for us to watch these people with such"
"fantastic technology by their side"
"begging our help in particular operations against their enemies"
and when the story came to an abrupt end
it was because of a failure on our part
when most of the earthlings got scared or simply fooled by the enemy
then we stopped supporting the w56 friends, this development was enough
to endanger them by reducing their superiority against their enemies
they had to stop their operations here and retreat to their origins
however they promised to return in the future
in a surprising way, Emelio appeared at an event where
Piere Giorgio Caria and Jaime Maussan would present
evidence of their research
and agreed after having repeatedly refused to discuss the amicizia case
Piere: the amicizia case is true, there are people who have
traveled from another world
it is not true that they left in 1978
because a small group is still here
the basis of this story is true but not very pleasant things
have happened in the sense of human relationships
humans know themselves, it is not defined by materialism and spirituality
Gaspare was the only one left in the group
I decided to stay, because I felt this way
the amicizia case, it is truely extraordinary
things have happened and they are true.
have you learned the way of my friend's teachings?
there are three types of writings, one of the blue people
another of the giants
and another of the dwarfs
it is something similar to an alphabet
which I have been able to learn
because I have an unusual sensitivity
this is how I was able to read their writings
do you understand them completely or is this how you interpret them?
that's right, Bruno replied to me a lot because he has seen
me speak to them in their own language
they haven't spoken to many others
Bruno told me one thing within the framework of laws
of his federation, what we could call cosmic laws, something that they lived by
otherwise we would be worse off, but we agreed that they would not
intervene with our history
There are laws where if you want something sooner or later, this is achieved
without intervention
but I think, and I feel that they can intervene, I don't know in what way though
very light intervention and
within the limits in which they can be accepted
they need the presence of a
significant number of the population
like when a teacher arrives who was summoned
and a god or supreme being
gives the people what they need
I think a significant mass is required
they will then act at the limit of their intervention
without intervening with our freedom
as when you are a child and they tell you
that you should not touch that electrical outlet
but the second time, the child know that he
should not touch it for his own good
I remember that on the day that I was with Jaime Maussan
and Joseph Garofalo, they were very important collaborators of mine
Garofalo was a very capable computer analyst
with which we analyzed the photographs and videos of amicizia
and we were going with Jaime and Garofalo to the city
where the house of the Virgin Mary is located
the city of Loretto that was transpired there
tells the story by the angels and while we were on the road
on the highway Garofalo watched
he saw that we were followed by a saucer and unfortunately
he was able to record video at the moment when the saucer was already very
far away, but by analyzing this video
the object is very similar to the amicizia objects
greet us? we do not know but it is another interesting fact that we can add to this
incredible story, maybe another will come out
but not until today
at least as I already said about another protagonist
who is Emilio, he did not accept to go out to
the public and gave us an interview, he is also very old but
perhaps in the future other material will come out
- They know, the security agencies know
that sooner or later one of these cases is gonna go out.
It's gonna be on YouTube and it's gonna be recorded
by different people at the same time.
Just consider for one second.
if the Zimbabwe incident in September, 1994
if this happens now with all the kids
with a cell phone, with a camera.
Can you imagine five, 10 kids recording the same
extraterrestrials presenting them the same day
in the afternoon on YouTube all around the world?
How could you describe this?
The agencies are ready to give up.
You have to remember John Podesta talking
where he said he wrote in a tweet,
the only thing that I regret working
for Obama is that I could not open the ET phenomenon.
And he became the manager, the chief
of the campaign of Hillary Clinton.
And she said, "I'm going to open this."
And I was rooting for her
because I knew she was gonna do it.
I know the Pentagon, I know the military were ready
because they cannot keep these secrets so much longer.
One of these days it's gonna come up, it's gonna blow.
The Chinese now have an incredible radio telescope
for one kilometer in diameter, something like that.
And they are looking for signals and they are looking
and everyone, everyone is looking for life there.
Europeans, the Indians, everyone.
This is changing so fast.
You are gonna have the big telescopes
like ALMA in Chile or other telescopes are gonna look
to the infrastructure of different planets.
They're gonna look for cities.
They're gonna look for satellites around the planets.
The James Webb telescope that is gonna be
on orbit on 2020 or '21 is gonna look for infrastructure.
There is not much time for the agencies.
They have to open.
The first try was on December 16th, 2017
when The New York Times presented this information
and Luis Elizondo from the Pentagon came up and said,
"I'm resigning there because I want this to be open"
and they presented three incredible videos.
And nobody has been able to discredit that.
Nobody.
Then what happens?
We have the evidence right there.
It's the first time they tried something.
And we know there are people investigating materials.
And I think very soon we will have a big surprise coming
from the agencies.
They better do because one of these days
there is gonna be a case that they won't be able
to control as they did in the past.
other material, other people, I know they exist, that some of them
are alive but it is a hope more than a certainty
(mysterious music)