1
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000
Downloaded from
YTS.MX

2
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000
Official YIFY movies site:
YTS.MX

3
00:00:19,034 --> 00:00:20,206
Horror movies.

4
00:00:20,206 --> 00:00:23,620
Mutilation,
decapitation, torture.

5
00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:25,034
Does that sound entertaining?

6
00:00:26,620 --> 00:00:30,862
In the 80s, horror really
dove into this gritty,

7
00:00:30,862 --> 00:00:35,241
grimy, gross, horrific,
psychotic exploration

8
00:00:35,241 --> 00:00:37,655
of the chaotic maniac,

9
00:00:37,655 --> 00:00:40,758
the questionably
motivated murderer,

10
00:00:40,758 --> 00:00:43,413
the individual who
seemed to be after

11
00:00:43,413 --> 00:00:47,137
nothing but a blood lust as
punishment for promiscuity.

12
00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:50,310
Or materialism.

13
00:00:52,931 --> 00:00:55,655
Telling stories without
really worrying too much

14
00:00:55,655 --> 00:00:59,758
about justifying the
horror that these villains

15
00:00:59,758 --> 00:01:02,000
were imposing upon their victims

16
00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,482
was exploited in a
really wonderful way

17
00:01:04,482 --> 00:01:06,241
by the filmmakers of the 80s.

18
00:01:06,241 --> 00:01:09,724
I'm most interested in
fear, the emotion of fear.

19
00:01:09,724 --> 00:01:11,344
People pay to be scared,
and when you think about it,

20
00:01:11,344 --> 00:01:13,000
it's real ridiculous.

21
00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,000
Underneath all of
it were these cracks

22
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,172
in the veneer.

23
00:01:16,172 --> 00:01:18,655
This place has a
way of making us think

24
00:01:18,655 --> 00:01:21,793
about the kind of future
our young people will have.

25
00:01:21,793 --> 00:01:23,620
Nationwide,
we found that minor cases

26
00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:25,655
of satanic activity
light up the map.

27
00:01:25,655 --> 00:01:27,241
It's 10 p.m.

28
00:01:27,241 --> 00:01:30,413
Do you know where
your children are?

29
00:01:31,931 --> 00:01:34,758
It's very much, for me,
the decade in which America

30
00:01:34,758 --> 00:01:36,862
tells stories about itself.

31
00:01:38,551 --> 00:01:41,241
There were hundreds and
hundreds of horror films

32
00:01:41,241 --> 00:01:43,068
produced in the 80s.

33
00:01:43,068 --> 00:01:44,896
The essence of
sex and violence.

34
00:01:44,896 --> 00:01:46,172
It is the explosion

35
00:01:46,172 --> 00:01:48,758
of that video rental
market that fuels

36
00:01:48,758 --> 00:01:50,379
the modern horror films.

37
00:01:50,379 --> 00:01:54,448
There's something very
sexually attractive to horror.

38
00:01:54,448 --> 00:01:57,689
It's almost like
you're attracted to
the forbidden fruit.

39
00:01:57,689 --> 00:01:58,931
Kids get the movies

40
00:01:58,931 --> 00:02:01,068
from the horror section
of the video store.

41
00:02:01,068 --> 00:02:03,517
Most of the violent
movies are rated R,

42
00:02:03,517 --> 00:02:05,241
and aren't supposed to be seen

43
00:02:05,241 --> 00:02:07,068
unless you're 17 years old.

44
00:02:07,068 --> 00:02:08,379
My mom would have died

45
00:02:08,379 --> 00:02:09,620
if she knew some of the stuff

46
00:02:09,620 --> 00:02:11,000
I was bringing
home and watching.

47
00:02:12,482 --> 00:02:16,172
So many weird things
in the movies of the 80s.

48
00:02:16,172 --> 00:02:18,413
I was genuinely scared.

49
00:02:18,413 --> 00:02:20,724
Maybe my imagination
was too vivid.

50
00:02:23,103 --> 00:02:24,827
It is a bit weird, isn't it?

51
00:02:25,655 --> 00:02:27,068
Strange horror.

52
00:02:27,068 --> 00:02:30,103
We just wanted to say
things really fast and loud.

53
00:02:30,103 --> 00:02:31,275
You know?

54
00:02:31,275 --> 00:02:32,551
Everything was
kind of over the top,

55
00:02:32,551 --> 00:02:33,758
and we were at a party.

56
00:02:35,620 --> 00:02:37,206
The 80s were a proving ground

57
00:02:37,206 --> 00:02:40,586
for horror films to
be commercially viable

58
00:02:40,586 --> 00:02:44,689
as movies that also were not
intellectually unrespectable.

59
00:02:45,896 --> 00:02:47,586
We will not be showing
you extreme violence

60
00:02:47,586 --> 00:02:49,103
in these movies.

61
00:02:49,103 --> 00:02:50,862
We've picked scenes that
only suggest the violence.

62
00:02:50,862 --> 00:02:53,137
We want to inform
you, not offend you.

63
00:02:53,137 --> 00:02:54,965
It's just as well we're not
showing some of those scenes.

64
00:02:54,965 --> 00:02:56,551
I think people would
turn their sets off.

65
00:02:56,551 --> 00:02:57,724
Yes.

66
00:02:59,275 --> 00:03:01,310
I could watch 80s horror
movies on a loop forever.

67
00:03:01,310 --> 00:03:02,517
It's never enough.

68
00:03:04,724 --> 00:03:05,689
Thrill me.

69
00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:05,758
"Death Ship".

70
00:04:05,758 --> 00:04:08,000
Your holiday in hell.

71
00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,068
"Death Ship" is
about a bunch of people

72
00:04:09,068 --> 00:04:11,000
on a cruise liner that sinks,

73
00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,793
and the survivors get onto
this passing freighter

74
00:04:15,793 --> 00:04:19,172
that turns out to be
haunted by Nazi ghosts.

75
00:04:19,172 --> 00:04:20,965
It's like
it's running itself.

76
00:04:20,965 --> 00:04:24,448
This old ship seems to
have a life of its own.

77
00:04:24,448 --> 00:04:27,482
The movie stars Richard
Crenna and George Kennedy.

78
00:04:27,482 --> 00:04:30,965
This is my ship,
and I am the captain.

79
00:04:30,965 --> 00:04:32,793
It was directed
by Alvin Rakoff,

80
00:04:32,793 --> 00:04:35,068
who primarily was a TV director.

81
00:04:35,068 --> 00:04:36,517
And it was written by Jack Hill,

82
00:04:36,517 --> 00:04:39,103
who was friends with
Francis Ford Coppola.

83
00:04:39,103 --> 00:04:41,103
They actually went to
film school together.

84
00:04:41,103 --> 00:04:42,827
And then afterwards,
they went and worked

85
00:04:42,827 --> 00:04:45,551
for Roger Corman on a
movie called "The Terror".

86
00:04:51,551 --> 00:04:54,758
"Death Ship" was a very early
example of Canuxploitation,

87
00:04:54,758 --> 00:04:57,655
which was something created
by the Canadian government.

88
00:04:57,655 --> 00:05:01,103
There was a tax break that
allowed it to be easier

89
00:05:01,103 --> 00:05:03,862
for Canadian filmmakers
to make movies.

90
00:05:03,862 --> 00:05:05,344
Thanks to Canuxploitation,

91
00:05:05,344 --> 00:05:07,827
there were a lot more Canadian
horror films that were made,

92
00:05:07,827 --> 00:05:11,034
as long as they included
Canadian actors and crew.

93
00:05:11,034 --> 00:05:12,896
We commit her soul,

94
00:05:12,896 --> 00:05:14,689
and we commit her body

95
00:05:14,689 --> 00:05:15,896
to the deep!

96
00:05:15,896 --> 00:05:17,000
No!

97
00:05:18,724 --> 00:05:21,000
It's not a very bloody film,

98
00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,275
but it's a very disgusting film.

99
00:05:23,275 --> 00:05:25,344
It's blood!

100
00:05:25,344 --> 00:05:27,068
It's blood!

101
00:05:27,068 --> 00:05:28,000
Hold on!

102
00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,413
There's moments in the film

103
00:05:29,413 --> 00:05:33,448
where they discover
what the ship is.

104
00:05:33,448 --> 00:05:35,379
They're going
through the bowels,

105
00:05:35,379 --> 00:05:37,448
and they start opening drawers,

106
00:05:37,448 --> 00:05:39,620
and they're finding gold teeth,

107
00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:43,655
things that were leftover
from tortured prisoners.

108
00:05:44,482 --> 00:05:45,310
Still running.

109
00:05:48,137 --> 00:05:49,517
And it makes the
film a lot darker

110
00:05:49,517 --> 00:05:51,000
than you would initially think.

111
00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,275
Let's get the
hell out of here!

112
00:05:52,275 --> 00:05:53,241
Go!

113
00:05:57,724 --> 00:05:59,862
Watching it now, it doesn't
have as great an impact

114
00:05:59,862 --> 00:06:02,000
as it would have back in 1980.

115
00:06:04,068 --> 00:06:06,000
It hit harder back then.

116
00:06:12,034 --> 00:06:14,896
Because that was so much
closer to the Holocaust.

117
00:06:26,551 --> 00:06:28,896
Something
terrifying has happened

118
00:06:28,896 --> 00:06:29,965
to the children.

119
00:06:29,965 --> 00:06:32,758
Pray you never meet them.

120
00:06:32,758 --> 00:06:35,724
So many of these movies
have these idyllic beginnings.

121
00:06:35,724 --> 00:06:37,137
It's like, look at this town,

122
00:06:37,137 --> 00:06:39,413
look at these beautiful little
white children on a bus.

123
00:06:39,413 --> 00:06:40,689
They're singing.

124
00:06:40,689 --> 00:06:43,862
They love their life,
it's great.

125
00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,068
There's a toxic
plant, there's a leak,

126
00:06:47,068 --> 00:06:50,000
and the leak is, like,
leaking into the ground.

127
00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,620
This yellow mist is coming
off of this toxic stuff.

128
00:06:54,620 --> 00:06:56,241
Then we cut to the kids.

129
00:06:56,241 --> 00:06:58,241
♪ Jolly, we love everybody

130
00:06:58,241 --> 00:07:01,689
And they all drive
through this yellow mist.

131
00:07:01,689 --> 00:07:04,448
So we know something
bad is going to happen.

132
00:07:04,448 --> 00:07:07,620
♪ Cheers to the bus
driver, the bus driver ♪

133
00:07:07,620 --> 00:07:10,655
The kids never come
home from school.

134
00:07:10,655 --> 00:07:14,689
They find the bus
abandoned by a cemetery.

135
00:07:14,689 --> 00:07:15,689
Convenient.

136
00:07:15,689 --> 00:07:16,896
I just found the school bus,

137
00:07:16,896 --> 00:07:19,379
about 100 yards from
the Ghoul place.

138
00:07:19,379 --> 00:07:20,482
Motor's still running,

139
00:07:21,931 --> 00:07:23,137
but no Fred, no kids.

140
00:07:23,137 --> 00:07:26,275
This idea of creepy
kids is very pervasive.

141
00:07:26,275 --> 00:07:29,413
It's universally scary,
because you don't want

142
00:07:29,413 --> 00:07:31,068
to fear your child.

143
00:07:31,068 --> 00:07:33,000
Daddy!

144
00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:38,482
You want to protect
your children.

145
00:07:38,482 --> 00:07:40,896
These evil kids are different,
because they smile at you,

146
00:07:40,896 --> 00:07:42,137
and they reach for you,

147
00:07:42,137 --> 00:07:44,586
and it's very hard
to not go to them.

148
00:07:50,206 --> 00:07:51,413
And when children will kill you,

149
00:07:51,413 --> 00:07:52,758
it's just terrifying.

150
00:07:52,758 --> 00:07:55,379
Particularly if they're,
like, void of a soul.

151
00:07:56,793 --> 00:07:59,068
Evil kids are always
gonna be scary.

152
00:07:59,068 --> 00:07:59,896
Whoa.

153
00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,034
Whatever did this
Billy, got Harry too.

154
00:08:03,034 --> 00:08:05,724
Then once it gets into the
suspense part of the film,

155
00:08:05,724 --> 00:08:07,413
I'm like, I know this music.

156
00:08:09,724 --> 00:08:10,551
Mommy!

157
00:08:13,689 --> 00:08:16,241
This is kind of
the same exact score

158
00:08:16,241 --> 00:08:18,068
as "Friday the 13th".

159
00:08:18,068 --> 00:08:19,517
It had a lot of

160
00:08:19,517 --> 00:08:21,862
without the ch-ch-ch, ah-ah-ah.

161
00:08:25,241 --> 00:08:27,689
The score of this movie
is by Harry Manfredini.

162
00:08:27,689 --> 00:08:31,586
Of course, "Friday the 13th"
came out in May of 1980,

163
00:08:31,586 --> 00:08:34,206
and "The Children"
came out in June.

164
00:08:34,206 --> 00:08:36,931
Oh my god!

165
00:08:36,931 --> 00:08:38,413
Daddy!

166
00:08:38,413 --> 00:08:41,620
Harry Manfredini's score
was more than the budget

167
00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:43,517
for the actual
filming of the movie.

168
00:08:43,517 --> 00:08:45,965
Well, you get some violins
and you make them scream.

169
00:08:52,896 --> 00:08:55,206
I had more money to
spend.

170
00:08:55,206 --> 00:09:00,137
So, consequently it opens
up way more choices.

171
00:09:01,586 --> 00:09:04,517
There was a score by Jerry
Goldsmith called "Coma"

172
00:09:04,517 --> 00:09:06,517
where all the violins go

173
00:09:06,517 --> 00:09:08,724
like that, and I go
wow, that's cool.

174
00:09:08,724 --> 00:09:10,241
That's effective.

175
00:09:10,241 --> 00:09:13,206
And so I figured out
how I would do that.

176
00:09:16,793 --> 00:09:17,965
I'd be running from
the kids, though.

177
00:09:17,965 --> 00:09:19,172
I'll tell you that.

178
00:09:19,172 --> 00:09:20,000
I'll tell you that
and three quarters.

179
00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,344
I'd be like, nope.

180
00:09:22,620 --> 00:09:23,862
Joni!

181
00:09:24,965 --> 00:09:25,827
No!

182
00:09:25,827 --> 00:09:27,551
Kathy, don't!

183
00:09:27,551 --> 00:09:29,517
Don't get got

184
00:09:29,517 --> 00:09:32,724
by your child with an
inexplicable manicure.

185
00:09:39,103 --> 00:09:40,344
It is not your child.

186
00:09:40,344 --> 00:09:42,413
Little Billy has
left the building.

187
00:09:42,413 --> 00:09:43,241
He gone.

188
00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:57,068
"Prom Night"

189
00:09:58,517 --> 00:10:01,931
If you're not back by midnight,
you won't be coming home.

190
00:10:01,931 --> 00:10:03,172
Slashers, a lot of times,

191
00:10:03,172 --> 00:10:06,344
especially in 1980 as a
reaction to "Halloween",

192
00:10:06,344 --> 00:10:09,827
they weren't necessarily
going very deep emotionally.

193
00:10:09,827 --> 00:10:11,758
That real life
horror of prom night

194
00:10:11,758 --> 00:10:13,862
is what kind of sets it
apart from a lot of different

195
00:10:13,862 --> 00:10:15,034
slashers from that time.

196
00:10:15,034 --> 00:10:16,517
Kill!

197
00:10:16,517 --> 00:10:18,000
Kill!

198
00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000
The setup is so vicious that
you really felt the atrocity

199
00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,172
of what happened.

200
00:10:25,517 --> 00:10:27,310
Six years later,
it's prom night,

201
00:10:27,310 --> 00:10:31,137
and somebody's gonna pay for
that little girl who died.

202
00:10:34,034 --> 00:10:36,034
As we go through the
high school experience,

203
00:10:36,034 --> 00:10:38,413
which everybody knows is
just a form of torture.

204
00:10:39,620 --> 00:10:42,448
Certain people try to
rectify that experience.

205
00:10:43,931 --> 00:10:46,000
All these people that had
been carrying this secret

206
00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,103
for so long, you can't
hide stuff like that.

207
00:10:48,103 --> 00:10:49,034
You just can't.

208
00:10:49,034 --> 00:10:49,896
Not for long.

209
00:10:49,896 --> 00:10:51,137
Not forever.

210
00:10:51,137 --> 00:10:54,689
It's been a long time.

211
00:10:54,689 --> 00:10:56,482
Tonight, it's my turn.

212
00:10:58,448 --> 00:10:59,965
The suspense is great.

213
00:10:59,965 --> 00:11:01,137
You know, the fact that
it's a backwards whodunit,

214
00:11:01,137 --> 00:11:02,379
because you know, we're
trying to figure out

215
00:11:02,379 --> 00:11:04,068
who's going to do
it, the whole time.

216
00:11:04,068 --> 00:11:04,931
How about a muffin?

217
00:11:04,931 --> 00:11:05,965
No, cookie.

218
00:11:05,965 --> 00:11:07,172
Like me better now?

219
00:11:07,172 --> 00:11:08,586
There's always red
herrings in the movie,

220
00:11:08,586 --> 00:11:11,068
but then, of course, the
killer starts picking them off,

221
00:11:11,068 --> 00:11:12,931
one by one, like at the prom.

222
00:11:12,931 --> 00:11:14,034
Kelly!

223
00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,724
You've got Jamie Lee
Curtis at her sassy best,

224
00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:23,689
and I love her.

225
00:11:23,689 --> 00:11:25,310
- I did it!
- Oh, shut up!

226
00:11:26,758 --> 00:11:29,275
She has this little 80s
cut, this little flip thing,

227
00:11:29,275 --> 00:11:32,793
which is everything that
I needed in my life.

228
00:11:32,793 --> 00:11:34,655
She is not Laurie
Strode in this thing.

229
00:11:34,655 --> 00:11:36,551
She's like a popular
girl this time.

230
00:11:37,896 --> 00:11:40,310
It's reminiscent of so
many other influences.

231
00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:41,724
"Carrie" is in there.

232
00:11:41,724 --> 00:11:44,137
"Saturday Night
Fever" is in there.

233
00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:46,724
♪ The feeling's right

234
00:11:46,724 --> 00:11:50,482
It's sort of this last
bastion of disco culture.

235
00:11:52,241 --> 00:11:54,206
♪ Tonight is the night

236
00:11:54,206 --> 00:11:57,689
Jamie Lee Curtis was
dancing her little booty off

237
00:11:57,689 --> 00:11:59,379
in this movie, and
I'm here for it.

238
00:12:00,827 --> 00:12:02,172
One of the fun things
about "Prom Night'

239
00:12:02,172 --> 00:12:05,241
is that at the end,
the song that's playing

240
00:12:05,241 --> 00:12:07,206
is called "Love Me Til I Die".

241
00:12:09,103 --> 00:12:13,000
♪ Love me til I die

242
00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,586
♪ And keep me satisfied

243
00:12:14,586 --> 00:12:18,241
Don't necessarily expect
prom to be the best night

244
00:12:18,241 --> 00:12:21,551
of your lives, because a
lot of people could die.

245
00:12:24,137 --> 00:12:25,379
- No!
- Now!

246
00:12:25,379 --> 00:12:28,068
This one, along
with "Terror Train",

247
00:12:28,068 --> 00:12:30,689
these were the movies
that really solidified

248
00:12:30,689 --> 00:12:32,620
Jamie Lee Curtis
as a scream queen.

249
00:12:36,896 --> 00:12:38,758
The big moment
for me is the end,

250
00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:40,448
and the reaction from
Jamie Lee Curtis,

251
00:12:40,448 --> 00:12:42,586
because she knows
who's behind it all,

252
00:12:42,586 --> 00:12:45,448
and it's a real
traumatic moment.

253
00:12:45,448 --> 00:12:49,586
♪ Imagine something
deep inside ♪

254
00:12:50,862 --> 00:12:52,724
Watching severed heads
roll out on prom night

255
00:12:52,724 --> 00:12:54,758
is pretty fun.

256
00:12:57,310 --> 00:12:58,137
No!

257
00:13:04,724 --> 00:13:06,551
He
knows you're alone

258
00:13:07,758 --> 00:13:09,551
And it's going to be
for the very last time.

259
00:13:13,758 --> 00:13:14,551
You know, sometimes
our dogs of the week

260
00:13:14,551 --> 00:13:15,655
are laughably bad.

261
00:13:15,655 --> 00:13:17,620
This one borders on being evil.

262
00:13:17,620 --> 00:13:19,172
Staten Island slasher.

263
00:13:19,172 --> 00:13:20,482
Love a regional slasher.

264
00:13:20,482 --> 00:13:22,482
This one you have
Caitlin O'Heaney

265
00:13:22,482 --> 00:13:23,965
playing a young bride-to-be

266
00:13:23,965 --> 00:13:25,896
who's being stalked
by a serial killer

267
00:13:25,896 --> 00:13:27,827
right before her wedding.

268
00:13:30,655 --> 00:13:31,931
And I like when a
slasher just tells you

269
00:13:31,931 --> 00:13:33,413
who the killer is
at the beginning.

270
00:13:33,413 --> 00:13:34,620
Here's Ray.

271
00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:35,448
Ray.

272
00:13:35,448 --> 00:13:36,586
This is the killer.

273
00:13:38,758 --> 00:13:41,172
"He Knows You're Alone"
is a 1980s slasher

274
00:13:41,172 --> 00:13:43,034
directed by Armand Mastroianni.

275
00:13:43,034 --> 00:13:45,517
He, of course, went on to
direct other 80s entries,

276
00:13:45,517 --> 00:13:47,931
like "The Clairvoyant",
"The Supernaturals",

277
00:13:47,931 --> 00:13:49,068
and "Cameron's Closet".

278
00:13:54,413 --> 00:13:55,724
This one's a bit of an outlier

279
00:13:55,724 --> 00:13:57,137
because it's actually a
studio produced slasher.

280
00:13:57,137 --> 00:13:58,379
MGMUA did it.

281
00:13:58,379 --> 00:14:00,758
So it's got a little
higher production value.

282
00:14:00,758 --> 00:14:03,689
♪ It's the night again

283
00:14:05,137 --> 00:14:06,689
It's got your garden variety
slasher effects in there,

284
00:14:06,689 --> 00:14:08,827
but there's a memorable
head in a fish tank moment.

285
00:14:10,103 --> 00:14:11,551
Tom Hanks' first movie.

286
00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:13,379
America's favorite, Tom Hanks.

287
00:14:13,379 --> 00:14:16,103
I stretched out an extra
foot to make sure I'd trip you.

288
00:14:16,103 --> 00:14:17,793
Why'd you do that?

289
00:14:17,793 --> 00:14:19,206
Well, it seemed the
best way to meet you.

290
00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:21,965
Apparently, he was
supposed to die in the film,

291
00:14:21,965 --> 00:14:23,931
but they cut it
because of how great

292
00:14:23,931 --> 00:14:25,310
his performance was.

293
00:14:25,310 --> 00:14:27,448
Horror movies and
the roller coasters,

294
00:14:27,448 --> 00:14:28,965
and the House of Horror ride-

295
00:14:28,965 --> 00:14:30,551
I wanna go on that next!

296
00:14:30,551 --> 00:14:33,551
You can face death without
any real fear of dying.

297
00:14:33,551 --> 00:14:34,793
Everyone loves Tom Hanks.

298
00:14:34,793 --> 00:14:35,724
They're like, we
can't fucking kill

299
00:14:35,724 --> 00:14:37,758
this lovable, likable man.

300
00:14:37,758 --> 00:14:38,931
He's a darling.

301
00:14:38,931 --> 00:14:41,137
We're not gonna
murder him.

302
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,758
It
came without warning,

303
00:14:56,758 --> 00:14:58,275
and now it's coming for you.

304
00:14:59,689 --> 00:15:01,517
"Without Warning" is from
the great Greydon Clark

305
00:15:01,517 --> 00:15:04,482
and it doesn't get nearly the
amount of praise it deserves.

306
00:15:04,482 --> 00:15:06,793
It's got an amazing
cast, with Jack Palance,

307
00:15:06,793 --> 00:15:09,586
and Martin Landau, who at
the time was mostly known

308
00:15:09,586 --> 00:15:12,931
for "Space: 1999" and
"Mission Impossible".

309
00:15:12,931 --> 00:15:15,655
And he's playing this
wild-haired conspiracy nut,

310
00:15:15,655 --> 00:15:17,620
who's the only one who
knows about the alien,

311
00:15:17,620 --> 00:15:18,793
and no one believes him.

312
00:15:18,793 --> 00:15:20,448
Look, I warned you!

313
00:15:20,448 --> 00:15:21,586
When they start eating on you,

314
00:15:21,586 --> 00:15:23,068
don't come to me for help,

315
00:15:24,137 --> 00:15:25,310
because you ain't getting any.

316
00:15:25,310 --> 00:15:26,689
You've got this gigantic alien

317
00:15:26,689 --> 00:15:28,724
who's on earth to hunt humans.

318
00:15:29,931 --> 00:15:33,000
It throws these little
parasitic alien frisbees

319
00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,344
that latch onto people.

320
00:15:37,724 --> 00:15:39,758
The movie was shot
by Dean Cundey,

321
00:15:39,758 --> 00:15:42,965
who is the award-winning
cinematographer of "The Thing",

322
00:15:42,965 --> 00:15:45,551
as well as numerous other
John Carpenter films.

323
00:15:47,448 --> 00:15:50,758
In 1987 during a press
tour, Arnold Schwarzenegger

324
00:15:50,758 --> 00:15:53,517
stated that the movie
"Without Warning"

325
00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:56,344
was a direct influence
on the movie "Predator".

326
00:15:57,758 --> 00:16:01,241
It's done really well, and it's
such a creepy-looking alien,

327
00:16:01,241 --> 00:16:03,206
when I saw it when I was little,

328
00:16:03,206 --> 00:16:05,586
it scared the hell out of me.

329
00:16:05,586 --> 00:16:07,103
And who's in the costume?

330
00:16:07,103 --> 00:16:09,793
Kevin Peter Hall, who was in
the costume of the Predator.

331
00:16:11,275 --> 00:16:14,000
The movie made its way to
a company called Filmways,

332
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,344
who didn't want to release it.

333
00:16:15,344 --> 00:16:18,000
They actually wanted
to bury the film

334
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,172
Greydon Clark had
to threaten to sue

335
00:16:20,172 --> 00:16:22,000
in order to get
the film released.

336
00:16:23,862 --> 00:16:26,344
Knowing this was the creative
spark for "Predator",

337
00:16:26,344 --> 00:16:27,896
you should absolutely
check it out,

338
00:16:27,896 --> 00:16:30,068
especially if you
love that film.

339
00:16:30,068 --> 00:16:32,344
You can see the influence
coming from here.

340
00:16:44,689 --> 00:16:47,000
By the
time they believe in him,

341
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,137
it will be too late.

342
00:16:50,068 --> 00:16:51,448
"The Boogeyman".

343
00:16:51,448 --> 00:16:52,586
Rated R.

344
00:16:52,586 --> 00:16:54,896
In classic slasher tradition,

345
00:16:54,896 --> 00:16:57,793
this movie starts with a
prologue with children,

346
00:16:57,793 --> 00:17:00,724
who are being
traumatized in some way.

347
00:17:00,724 --> 00:17:02,620
Its "Halloween"
DNA is very present

348
00:17:02,620 --> 00:17:03,551
out of the gate.

349
00:17:03,551 --> 00:17:05,586
With the music, and its POV,

350
00:17:05,586 --> 00:17:07,724
and sort of a voyeuristic thing,

351
00:17:07,724 --> 00:17:11,827
looking at folks engaged
in carnal frivolity.

352
00:17:11,827 --> 00:17:13,034
What are you lookin' at?

353
00:17:13,034 --> 00:17:14,206
They've walked in on their mom

354
00:17:14,206 --> 00:17:15,137
making out with a fella

355
00:17:15,137 --> 00:17:16,655
who then ties up the boy.

356
00:17:17,827 --> 00:17:19,793
The boy's sister,
she cuts him loose.

357
00:17:19,793 --> 00:17:22,344
The boy goes on to kill
the man who tied him up.

358
00:17:26,551 --> 00:17:28,310
And he gets trapped
in this mirror.

359
00:17:35,275 --> 00:17:38,379
He is suddenly a supernatural
presence in their lives.

360
00:17:38,379 --> 00:17:40,103
I know he's here.

361
00:17:40,103 --> 00:17:41,448
Who?

362
00:17:41,448 --> 00:17:44,448
When I broke the
mirror, I released him.

363
00:17:44,448 --> 00:17:45,931
Lacy, he's dead!

364
00:17:45,931 --> 00:17:47,275
There's a guy
sitting in the car,

365
00:17:47,275 --> 00:17:49,758
pricks him in the
neck with a knife.

366
00:17:52,482 --> 00:17:54,448
His girlfriend comes in
through the passenger side

367
00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:56,896
to, like, give him a kiss.

368
00:18:01,137 --> 00:18:02,931
So they're skewered together,

369
00:18:02,931 --> 00:18:05,620
and it's like a
double-death scene.

370
00:18:05,620 --> 00:18:08,103
I never seen a kiss this long.

371
00:18:08,103 --> 00:18:11,137
That was kind of
an amazing kill.

372
00:18:11,137 --> 00:18:13,896
It gets very bizarre,
only because it's like

373
00:18:13,896 --> 00:18:15,689
three different
things in one movie.

374
00:18:15,689 --> 00:18:18,517
Like they were just kind of
throwing everything at it

375
00:18:18,517 --> 00:18:20,172
to see what stuck.

376
00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:26,758
Let's just do all of it.

377
00:18:26,758 --> 00:18:29,758
Let's make it a weird
voyeuristic kinky slasher

378
00:18:29,758 --> 00:18:34,137
supernatural exorcism
cyborg demon thing.

379
00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:39,275
Get away!

380
00:18:39,275 --> 00:18:40,551
There's some unique stuff
happening behind the scenes

381
00:18:40,551 --> 00:18:41,758
on this one.

382
00:18:41,758 --> 00:18:43,896
Susanna Love, and Nicholas Love,

383
00:18:43,896 --> 00:18:45,517
actually brother and
sister in real life,

384
00:18:45,517 --> 00:18:46,758
playing siblings in the film.

385
00:18:46,758 --> 00:18:49,655
Moreover, Susanna is the
co-writer of the film,

386
00:18:49,655 --> 00:18:51,827
and married to her
writing partner

387
00:18:51,827 --> 00:18:54,482
and the director of
the film, Ulli Lommel.

388
00:18:54,482 --> 00:18:57,275
An incredibly
underrated director.

389
00:18:57,275 --> 00:18:59,862
He's imaginative,
he's different.

390
00:19:01,068 --> 00:19:03,448
"Boogeyman" was
a low budget film

391
00:19:03,448 --> 00:19:05,068
that was incredibly successful,

392
00:19:05,068 --> 00:19:08,827
and that's what really
put Lommel over the edge.

393
00:19:14,413 --> 00:19:15,862
The sequel is another
interesting one,

394
00:19:15,862 --> 00:19:18,137
because the "Boogeyman 2"
predates the "Scream" franchise

395
00:19:18,137 --> 00:19:21,620
in that in concerns a
Hollywood production

396
00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:24,620
trying to make a film about
the events of the first film.

397
00:19:24,620 --> 00:19:26,551
So it's very meta in that way,

398
00:19:26,551 --> 00:19:29,310
and meta before there was a
whole lot of meta going on.

399
00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:32,206
Boogeyman!

400
00:19:42,620 --> 00:19:44,344
"Christmas Evil".

401
00:19:44,344 --> 00:19:46,068
The night he dropped in.

402
00:19:47,310 --> 00:19:49,379
I just love horror
set at Christmas.

403
00:19:49,379 --> 00:19:51,586
And in the 80s,
there's tons of it.

404
00:19:54,586 --> 00:19:56,586
Christmas is a time
when things are

405
00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:59,103
supposed to be a certain way,

406
00:19:59,103 --> 00:20:02,000
and horror films are
all about subverting

407
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,551
what it is supposed to be.

408
00:20:03,551 --> 00:20:06,379
And so Christmas and horror
really go hand in hand.

409
00:20:10,137 --> 00:20:13,275
Brandon Maggart plays
a middle-aged man,

410
00:20:13,275 --> 00:20:14,758
doesn't have any friends,

411
00:20:14,758 --> 00:20:17,344
doesn't have a girlfriend,
or anything like that.

412
00:20:17,344 --> 00:20:19,275
Works at a toy factory,

413
00:20:19,275 --> 00:20:23,275
and he likes Christmas
a little bit too much

414
00:20:23,275 --> 00:20:27,103
to the point where he starts
to kill for Christmas.

415
00:20:27,103 --> 00:20:29,000
I have superlative taste.

416
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,931
Merry Christmas!

417
00:20:32,172 --> 00:20:34,482
"Christmas Evil" is a
movie that usually gets

418
00:20:34,482 --> 00:20:37,206
classified as a horror film,

419
00:20:37,206 --> 00:20:41,275
but it's really more of a
psychological character study

420
00:20:41,275 --> 00:20:43,172
similar to "Taxi
Driver", or something,

421
00:20:43,172 --> 00:20:45,655
where you're just
watching this lonely

422
00:20:45,655 --> 00:20:49,655
socially isolated guy
just start to crack.

423
00:20:53,724 --> 00:20:56,655
Lewis Jackson was
obsessed with Fassbender

424
00:20:56,655 --> 00:20:59,172
and German expressionism
at the time of making it.

425
00:21:00,068 --> 00:21:01,000
What are you saying?

426
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,275
I'm gonna play my tune now.

427
00:21:03,793 --> 00:21:04,620
Everybody'll dance.

428
00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:05,551
You'll see.

429
00:21:05,551 --> 00:21:07,586
And adding that art side to it

430
00:21:07,586 --> 00:21:10,172
I believe gives it the
more fantasy element,

431
00:21:10,172 --> 00:21:13,103
and Christmas is based
around magic and fantasy.

432
00:21:14,379 --> 00:21:16,275
The look of the film is great.

433
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:19,448
Every scene of this
movie glows of Christmas.

434
00:21:20,448 --> 00:21:23,689
Merry Christmas everyone!

435
00:21:23,689 --> 00:21:26,206
The holidays are hard
for a lot of people.

436
00:21:26,206 --> 00:21:28,793
Even if you are
well-off, the holidays

437
00:21:28,793 --> 00:21:30,862
are a very stressful period.

438
00:21:30,862 --> 00:21:32,862
And "Christmas
Evil" captures that.

439
00:21:35,103 --> 00:21:36,034
Harry?

440
00:21:36,034 --> 00:21:37,862
Merry Christmas, Frank!

441
00:21:37,862 --> 00:21:40,620
It's so nightmarish and weird.

442
00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:43,103
You see him tug on his
beard and it doesn't move,

443
00:21:43,103 --> 00:21:44,689
like it becomes a part of him,

444
00:21:44,689 --> 00:21:48,413
like a horror version of Tim
Allen's "The Santa Claus".

445
00:21:50,413 --> 00:21:52,413
Are we seeing him
become Santa Claus,

446
00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:55,137
or is Harry seeing himself
become Santa Claus?

447
00:21:56,206 --> 00:21:59,793
Merry Christmas!

448
00:21:59,793 --> 00:22:02,241
It's a movie that
I think will surprise

449
00:22:02,241 --> 00:22:03,965
a lot of people the
first time they watch it,

450
00:22:03,965 --> 00:22:05,344
especially the ending,

451
00:22:05,344 --> 00:22:07,689
because that comes out
of fucking nowhere.

452
00:22:09,103 --> 00:22:10,896
Are we seeing
what we're seeing

453
00:22:10,896 --> 00:22:12,620
onscreen actually happening?

454
00:22:12,620 --> 00:22:15,034
Or is this how Harry
is dealing with it?

455
00:22:17,862 --> 00:22:19,862
"Christmas Evil" was
the title of the movie

456
00:22:19,862 --> 00:22:21,793
that the distributor
gave that Lewis Jackson

457
00:22:21,793 --> 00:22:24,413
did not approve of, and
actually didn't know

458
00:22:24,413 --> 00:22:25,931
that it was called
"Christmas Evil"

459
00:22:25,931 --> 00:22:28,275
until he saw the trade when
it was being re-released.

460
00:22:28,275 --> 00:22:30,137
But the film was called
"Better Watch Out".

461
00:22:30,137 --> 00:22:32,034
That's what he filmed
it as, and that's what

462
00:22:32,034 --> 00:22:33,965
he knew it as, and
he still to this day

463
00:22:33,965 --> 00:22:36,689
does not like the
name "Christmas Evil".

464
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:39,000
♪ Merry Christmas

465
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,206
Fun fact.

466
00:22:40,206 --> 00:22:42,034
Brandon Maggart
would later go on

467
00:22:42,034 --> 00:22:45,551
to become singer Fiona
Apple's dad in real life,

468
00:22:45,551 --> 00:22:48,000
proving once again
that the apple

469
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,413
never falls far from
the Christmas tree.

470
00:22:58,034 --> 00:22:59,551
One of the big reasons
that horror films

471
00:22:59,551 --> 00:23:01,655
have remained so
popular is that it is

472
00:23:01,655 --> 00:23:04,068
a guaranteed way
to make some money.

473
00:23:04,068 --> 00:23:07,379
If you don't spend a hell
of a lot of money on it,

474
00:23:07,379 --> 00:23:08,827
there's gold in those hills.

475
00:23:08,827 --> 00:23:10,586
There are people out
there who are willing

476
00:23:10,586 --> 00:23:14,000
to take a chance on any
kind of horror movie.

477
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,827
And the video
revolution came along,

478
00:23:15,827 --> 00:23:17,689
and it changed everything.

479
00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:20,931
Now this is a video
tape recorder, or VTR,

480
00:23:20,931 --> 00:23:22,103
actually sometimes
they're called

481
00:23:22,103 --> 00:23:24,689
video cassette
recorders, or VCRs.

482
00:23:24,689 --> 00:23:27,931
The ability to play
a movie, or a show,

483
00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:30,689
an entertainment,
at whim, at will,

484
00:23:30,689 --> 00:23:34,000
that did not exist prior to
this home video revolution.

485
00:23:35,586 --> 00:23:37,724
That's the thing that
most people today,

486
00:23:37,724 --> 00:23:39,379
where everything's
accessible and fast,

487
00:23:39,379 --> 00:23:42,448
don't realize that
it was not like that.

488
00:23:42,448 --> 00:23:45,413
Now, some of the best
movies on television

489
00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:46,586
aren't on television.

490
00:23:46,586 --> 00:23:48,000
They're on SelectaVision.

491
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,931
Well, now it was instant
gratification time.

492
00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:51,206
400.

493
00:23:51,206 --> 00:23:52,448
Set it today.

494
00:23:52,448 --> 00:23:54,689
It was a whole world
opened up to people.

495
00:23:54,689 --> 00:23:56,241
Movies in the 50s
and 60s, I mean,

496
00:23:56,241 --> 00:23:58,000
you hoped that a Hammer
film was gonna play

497
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,482
in your neighborhood,
because if it didn't,

498
00:23:59,482 --> 00:24:01,275
you weren't gonna
see it for five years

499
00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:02,413
until it went on television.

500
00:24:02,413 --> 00:24:04,310
You largely couldn't
see it at all,

501
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:06,896
or if you could, you had
to see it chopped to pieces

502
00:24:06,896 --> 00:24:08,586
on the 4:30 movie.

503
00:24:13,344 --> 00:24:17,241
So when video appeared, it
was like this dam broke.

504
00:24:17,241 --> 00:24:19,620
There was this new
distribution outlet

505
00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:22,448
for these films that were
able to be repackaged

506
00:24:22,448 --> 00:24:24,344
and given a whole
new lease of life,

507
00:24:24,344 --> 00:24:27,724
or films that had only come
out in their native country,

508
00:24:27,724 --> 00:24:29,689
then all of a sudden,
they had an outlet

509
00:24:29,689 --> 00:24:31,379
in other territories.

510
00:24:31,379 --> 00:24:33,448
"The
Curse of the Devil".

511
00:24:35,068 --> 00:24:39,689
The video tape revolution
brought a new appreciation

512
00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:42,172
for some of my films,
especially "The Thing".

513
00:24:42,172 --> 00:24:46,344
What really began video, like
with the internet, was porn.

514
00:24:46,344 --> 00:24:47,310
What's
it like to become

515
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:49,000
one of football's cowgirls?

516
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,517
Debbie Does Dallas
has all the answers.

517
00:24:51,517 --> 00:24:54,586
I think the first
VHS I ever bought

518
00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:59,310
was a porn tape that cost,
like, $80 back in the 70s.

519
00:24:59,310 --> 00:25:01,862
How a lot of us consumed
media at that time,

520
00:25:01,862 --> 00:25:04,586
it impacted the way
people made movies.

521
00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:06,862
Especially the
beginning of the VHS,

522
00:25:06,862 --> 00:25:09,241
all the video
stores were private

523
00:25:09,241 --> 00:25:10,827
they're just pop-ups.

524
00:25:10,827 --> 00:25:12,551
They had to buy product.

525
00:25:12,551 --> 00:25:17,551
So they would go out and buy
5000 VHS's for their store.

526
00:25:18,275 --> 00:25:18,965
What did they buy?

527
00:25:18,965 --> 00:25:20,379
Sex and horror.

528
00:25:20,379 --> 00:25:21,620
We cater to their demands.

529
00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:22,413
Whatever, they tell
us what they want,

530
00:25:22,413 --> 00:25:23,827
and we try to get it.

531
00:25:23,827 --> 00:25:25,448
And we have a large
horror section,

532
00:25:25,448 --> 00:25:27,862
and of course with real
heavy nude releases.

533
00:25:27,862 --> 00:25:29,758
We get a lot of films
called B movies.

534
00:25:29,758 --> 00:25:33,448
There's distributors who
were feeding that pipeline,

535
00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:36,000
and they needed somebody
to make the movies.

536
00:25:37,172 --> 00:25:40,034
Those movies, they
became products.

537
00:25:40,034 --> 00:25:42,137
They needed to fit
a certain mold.

538
00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:45,448
"Halloween" and
"Friday the 13th".

539
00:25:45,448 --> 00:25:48,000
These two films
dominated the box office,

540
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000
and then they
dominated home video.

541
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Once horror started
doing well on video,

542
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,068
that's when everybody
realized it very quickly.

543
00:25:57,482 --> 00:26:01,724
The 80s began the
period of crapola movies

544
00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:03,172
made straight for video,

545
00:26:03,172 --> 00:26:08,034
only to satisfy the
insatiable VHS market.

546
00:26:09,551 --> 00:26:12,379
It was just tons and
tons of new horror movies

547
00:26:12,379 --> 00:26:13,586
being made all the time,

548
00:26:13,586 --> 00:26:15,655
especially the super
low budget ones.

549
00:26:15,655 --> 00:26:18,000
I think everybody with
a camera and 10 bucks

550
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,034
made their own horror
movies back then.

551
00:26:21,620 --> 00:26:24,586
Companies, they were
also buying cheaper films

552
00:26:24,586 --> 00:26:28,206
that were independently
made to put in stores.

553
00:26:28,206 --> 00:26:30,344
And those were your
direct to video days.

554
00:26:31,896 --> 00:26:35,241
Shot on video brought
the price of making a film

555
00:26:35,241 --> 00:26:39,689
down to $50,000, $40,000,
$30,000, and even less.

556
00:26:39,689 --> 00:26:42,275
You could make a movie on Monday

557
00:26:42,275 --> 00:26:44,689
and have it in the video
store by Wednesday.

558
00:26:44,689 --> 00:26:46,137
You didn't need a big studio.

559
00:26:46,137 --> 00:26:49,103
You didn't need to go begging
for someone to produce it.

560
00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:51,103
You could just make your project

561
00:26:51,103 --> 00:26:52,586
and put it out there on video,

562
00:26:52,586 --> 00:26:54,862
which I did many,
many, many times.

563
00:26:54,862 --> 00:26:57,000
Hello darling, and
welcome to another

564
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,344
fabulous Thriller Video.

565
00:26:59,344 --> 00:27:00,862
Thriller Video.

566
00:27:00,862 --> 00:27:02,551
We had a collection
of horror movies

567
00:27:02,551 --> 00:27:05,068
that were kind of
old and tired and bad

568
00:27:05,068 --> 00:27:06,551
that nobody wanted to see,

569
00:27:06,551 --> 00:27:08,931
so I did my wraparound
thing on them,

570
00:27:08,931 --> 00:27:10,655
and we released them to video,

571
00:27:10,655 --> 00:27:13,206
and they sold like hotcakes.

572
00:27:14,551 --> 00:27:17,724
Now this one's in kind
of a different vein,

573
00:27:17,724 --> 00:27:19,137
jugular vein, that is.

574
00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:21,551
There were more
distribution companies

575
00:27:21,551 --> 00:27:23,000
than you could count.

576
00:27:24,827 --> 00:27:26,931
Jack Valenti, the
head of the MPAA,

577
00:27:26,931 --> 00:27:29,517
was whining that video cassettes

578
00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:31,793
would destroy copyright law.

579
00:27:31,793 --> 00:27:34,827
The studios wouldn't
license their stuff.

580
00:27:34,827 --> 00:27:38,103
They saw video as
being a threat.

581
00:27:38,103 --> 00:27:41,103
So there was open field
for anybody who wanted

582
00:27:41,103 --> 00:27:43,275
to start a company.

583
00:27:43,275 --> 00:27:46,275
Charlie Band took
advantage of it the most.

584
00:27:47,586 --> 00:27:50,379
Charles Band was a
pioneer in this time,

585
00:27:50,379 --> 00:27:52,931
creating multiple labels,
putting these films

586
00:27:52,931 --> 00:27:54,103
in video stores.

587
00:27:55,241 --> 00:27:57,103
This is a tough business,

588
00:27:57,103 --> 00:27:58,931
but every business
is challenging.

589
00:27:58,931 --> 00:28:01,655
It was rental that
made the thing explode

590
00:28:02,862 --> 00:28:04,310
Come
to the warehouse,

591
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:05,482
and rent the hit movies you
want when you want them.

592
00:28:05,482 --> 00:28:07,655
Around 1982 is
when the video stores

593
00:28:07,655 --> 00:28:10,689
started doing way, way better.

594
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:15,344
By 1985 there was around
12,000 video stores

595
00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:16,931
in the United States.

596
00:28:16,931 --> 00:28:18,379
You can
now rent a video overnight,

597
00:28:18,379 --> 00:28:21,896
and hire these great
movies from only 99 cents.

598
00:28:21,896 --> 00:28:26,758
Close to the late 80s,
there was around 40,000 places

599
00:28:26,758 --> 00:28:29,655
that were renting tapes,
so this was a huge impact

600
00:28:29,655 --> 00:28:31,758
for the horror
genre, because people

601
00:28:31,758 --> 00:28:33,310
were renting horror films.

602
00:28:33,310 --> 00:28:36,827
Tapes around that
time weren't $5.

603
00:28:36,827 --> 00:28:38,413
They weren't $2.

604
00:28:38,413 --> 00:28:42,931
They were typically
49.95 up to $100.

605
00:28:42,931 --> 00:28:47,931
So if you had 40,000 stores
buying at least one tape,

606
00:28:49,068 --> 00:28:51,068
you were lining your
pockets full of money.

607
00:28:51,068 --> 00:28:53,137
And this was a million
dollar industry.

608
00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,965
And a lot of video
labels had either one

609
00:28:56,965 --> 00:28:59,758
to maybe 20 titles
in their catalog,

610
00:28:59,758 --> 00:29:01,034
but that's all they needed,

611
00:29:01,034 --> 00:29:03,000
because it was
millions of dollars

612
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,448
that they were making.

613
00:29:04,448 --> 00:29:06,551
And then they started
producing their own stuff,

614
00:29:06,551 --> 00:29:08,517
giving filmmakers $50,000,

615
00:29:08,517 --> 00:29:10,310
because they knew that they
were gonna make millions

616
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:11,620
selling to video stores,

617
00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:13,827
so it just revolutionized
everything.

618
00:29:16,724 --> 00:29:20,137
Troma became a staple
of the home video market,

619
00:29:20,137 --> 00:29:23,206
because we had accumulated
about 60 movies.

620
00:29:23,206 --> 00:29:24,862
We wanted to own our movies,

621
00:29:24,862 --> 00:29:26,448
we wanted to own all the rights,

622
00:29:26,448 --> 00:29:30,620
and we wanted to have a
collection, have a library.

623
00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:34,689
The theory behind Troma
was to own your negatives.

624
00:29:35,896 --> 00:29:38,862
Lloyd Kaufman, Charlie
Band, and Roger Corman,

625
00:29:38,862 --> 00:29:41,413
they were businessmen,
but they were filmmakers.

626
00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:44,344
Those core three are
definitely a huge, huge reason

627
00:29:44,344 --> 00:29:49,344
why the direct to video horror
was so impactful and huge.

628
00:29:50,448 --> 00:29:51,655
As the 80s started
winding down,

629
00:29:51,655 --> 00:29:54,620
like every business,
it starts monopolizing.

630
00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:58,655
By the 90s, you had
Blockbuster reading scripts

631
00:29:58,655 --> 00:30:01,206
to give
so much shelf space.

632
00:30:01,206 --> 00:30:03,068
Any time there's
a new technology,

633
00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:05,655
the majors, the
oligopoly, the cartel,

634
00:30:05,655 --> 00:30:08,827
throws a monkey wrench into
it, tries to screw it up,

635
00:30:08,827 --> 00:30:10,931
and then they take it over,
which is what happened

636
00:30:10,931 --> 00:30:14,413
with video cassette, Blockbuster
put all the independents

637
00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:15,931
out of business.

638
00:30:15,931 --> 00:30:17,965
♪ Wow what a difference

639
00:30:17,965 --> 00:30:19,551
♪ Blockbuster video

640
00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:22,068
I've never seen 10,000
tapes in one store.

641
00:30:22,068 --> 00:30:24,448
We can really, really
thank the mom and pop stores

642
00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:28,137
out there, because they
carried the really interesting

643
00:30:28,137 --> 00:30:30,448
innovative films that were
out there during the 80s,

644
00:30:30,448 --> 00:30:33,103
films that someone like
Blockbuster wouldn't touch

645
00:30:33,103 --> 00:30:34,586
with a 10 foot pole.

646
00:30:34,586 --> 00:30:36,827
And Blockbuster sure didn't
have that little room

647
00:30:36,827 --> 00:30:39,689
with the fancy
movies back there.

648
00:30:41,241 --> 00:30:43,413
Today you can go out and
make a movie for no money.

649
00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:46,379
I mean, the world has
changed dramatically.

650
00:30:46,379 --> 00:30:49,551
It's still in the story you
tell, if it's compelling,

651
00:30:49,551 --> 00:30:50,931
I mean, whatever the medium is,

652
00:30:50,931 --> 00:30:52,931
you need to be able
to tell a story,

653
00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:55,413
and put it together in
a format that people,

654
00:30:55,413 --> 00:30:57,965
whether they're gonna
rent or buy or download

655
00:30:57,965 --> 00:31:00,655
or view for free,
find entertaining.

656
00:31:00,655 --> 00:31:02,586
That part has not
changed at all.

657
00:31:18,896 --> 00:31:20,586
"Fear No Evil".

658
00:31:20,586 --> 00:31:23,310
It'll scare the
devil out of you.

659
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:25,620
"Fear No Evil" is
thematically in the vein

660
00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:27,034
of a lot of these
films in the 1980s

661
00:31:27,034 --> 00:31:29,344
where it's like a guy
who gets picked on

662
00:31:29,344 --> 00:31:31,172
has been underestimated.

663
00:31:31,172 --> 00:31:32,517
Be careful who you pick on,

664
00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:34,551
because he might
be the Antichrist.

665
00:31:39,137 --> 00:31:42,310
"Fear No Evil" is
a hormonal overload.

666
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:43,896
I mean, come on.

667
00:31:43,896 --> 00:31:45,275
High school's hard enough
without the inconvenience

668
00:31:45,275 --> 00:31:47,344
of demonic possession, right?

669
00:31:49,931 --> 00:31:51,551
"Fear No Evil" is like
if Damien from "The Omen"

670
00:31:51,551 --> 00:31:53,965
was in high school,
and was pretty gay.

671
00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:59,310
"Fear No Evil" was really
my coming of age story

672
00:31:59,310 --> 00:32:02,103
in a lot of ways, and
so all that angst,

673
00:32:02,103 --> 00:32:05,103
all of that confusion is
reflected in the film.

674
00:32:06,344 --> 00:32:07,793
There's this scene
in "Fear No Evil",

675
00:32:07,793 --> 00:32:10,724
it's a locker room scene, which
it's definitely the source

676
00:32:10,724 --> 00:32:12,586
of a lot of anxiety
for a lot of people.

677
00:32:12,586 --> 00:32:16,000
This scene is like,
ooh, very cringey.

678
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,965
Only the most
uncomfortable high school

679
00:32:17,965 --> 00:32:19,931
shower scene since "Carrie".

680
00:32:22,551 --> 00:32:23,413
Plug it up!

681
00:32:23,413 --> 00:32:24,344
Plug it up!

682
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,310
Tony goes in to kiss Andrew,

683
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:31,517
and then Andrew uses
his special devil powers

684
00:32:31,517 --> 00:32:33,137
to make the kiss last longer.

685
00:32:33,137 --> 00:32:34,172
Like, that's his big revenge.

686
00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:36,000
It's like, make the bully gayer.

687
00:32:37,137 --> 00:32:39,931
It's Andrew who's
compelling this,

688
00:32:39,931 --> 00:32:43,448
but Tony's latent homosexuality,

689
00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:46,689
I mean, he hates women, right?

690
00:32:46,689 --> 00:32:48,413
This guy, this thug, Tony.

691
00:32:48,413 --> 00:32:50,000
He's a bully, you know?

692
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,655
Lots of these
bullies are, right?

693
00:32:51,655 --> 00:32:53,758
They can't face
their own sexuality,

694
00:32:53,758 --> 00:32:56,137
and so they take it out
on others in this manner.

695
00:32:56,137 --> 00:32:59,206
Look, if you don't keep your
mouth shut about this, right?

696
00:32:59,206 --> 00:33:00,758
Guess where that was shot?

697
00:33:00,758 --> 00:33:02,689
At my old junior high school.

698
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,689
First day of the
shoot, what I do.

699
00:33:04,689 --> 00:33:07,620
We go in there, we shoot
this, the shower scene.

700
00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:10,448
Get in there with all these
naked guys in the shower,

701
00:33:10,448 --> 00:33:11,896
they're kissing.

702
00:33:11,896 --> 00:33:13,379
They didn't know anything
about it, of course,

703
00:33:13,379 --> 00:33:14,793
until the film was released.

704
00:33:15,931 --> 00:33:17,793
Come on, come on!

705
00:33:19,034 --> 00:33:20,620
I mean, it has a
nice gothic feel.

706
00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:25,034
I wanted it to have
a Hammer Horror feel.

707
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,724
The iconography.

708
00:33:29,724 --> 00:33:32,413
I mean it's so frightening.

709
00:33:32,413 --> 00:33:35,896
All the iconography
surrounding Catholicism.

710
00:33:39,793 --> 00:33:44,793
We raised, ultimately,
540,000 to make the picture.

711
00:33:45,965 --> 00:33:47,172
We had no money to
finish the film,

712
00:33:47,172 --> 00:33:50,068
and I was concerned
that if we got a bite

713
00:33:50,068 --> 00:33:53,275
from a distributor,
that that would be it.

714
00:33:53,275 --> 00:33:55,551
I'd lose control of the picture.

715
00:33:55,551 --> 00:33:56,689
Damn you!

716
00:33:56,689 --> 00:33:58,310
Avco Embassy.

717
00:33:58,310 --> 00:34:02,000
They were the boutique
low budget horror
distribution house.

718
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,689
They had control, total
control, over the final cut,

719
00:34:04,689 --> 00:34:06,655
but they made me make the edits

720
00:34:06,655 --> 00:34:09,137
with an editor that was
assigned to the picture,

721
00:34:09,137 --> 00:34:11,379
and it was horrendous,
because little by little

722
00:34:11,379 --> 00:34:14,655
I saw it restructured,
reorganized, chopped up.

723
00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:19,275
The picture that at best
works in fits and starts.

724
00:34:19,275 --> 00:34:21,827
But what really kills me
is I've read some things

725
00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:24,689
about it being
possibly homophobic.

726
00:34:24,689 --> 00:34:29,000
It's anything but
that, in my estimation.

727
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,413
I mean, it's a coming
of age story, right?

728
00:34:32,586 --> 00:34:34,620
The people that are
particularly inclined

729
00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:36,758
to love "Fear No Evil" are gay.

730
00:34:36,758 --> 00:34:39,965
They consider it campy
enough to have fun with,

731
00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:44,103
or it genuinely moves
them as to their own

732
00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:46,172
coming out struggles.

733
00:34:58,724 --> 00:35:01,517
Unlike "Jaws", where
you're not safe in the water,

734
00:35:01,517 --> 00:35:04,655
this one, you're not safe
if you're on the beach.

735
00:35:10,517 --> 00:35:11,448
"Blood Beach".

736
00:35:11,448 --> 00:35:12,965
The tagline says it all.

737
00:35:12,965 --> 00:35:16,000
Just when you thought it was
safe to go back in the water,

738
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,517
you can't get to it.

739
00:35:17,517 --> 00:35:18,896
It's great to see John Saxon

740
00:35:18,896 --> 00:35:20,275
from "A Nightmare
on Elm Street",

741
00:35:20,275 --> 00:35:22,793
and Burt Young, who's
Paulie from "Rocky",

742
00:35:22,793 --> 00:35:24,241
trying to solve this mystery.

743
00:35:24,241 --> 00:35:26,068
He was foolish
enough to lie down

744
00:35:26,068 --> 00:35:27,965
on this particular beach.

745
00:35:27,965 --> 00:35:30,275
Never would've
happened in Chicago.

746
00:35:31,689 --> 00:35:32,965
Yeah, one more remark
like that out of your mouth,

747
00:35:32,965 --> 00:35:34,206
Chicago's where you're gonna be.

748
00:35:34,206 --> 00:35:36,655
It's a charming movie,
and it has a real moody,

749
00:35:36,655 --> 00:35:39,448
beachy feel, from
the opening credits

750
00:35:39,448 --> 00:35:43,758
with this lingering monster
POV vision under the pier.

751
00:35:45,206 --> 00:35:47,000
A $2 million union movie.

752
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,103
Jeffrey Bloom wrote
and directed it.

753
00:35:49,103 --> 00:35:50,724
The coolest guy of all time.

754
00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:55,000
The way our monster that
traveled through the sand,

755
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,068
we did this movie 10
years before "Tremors".

756
00:35:58,068 --> 00:35:59,827
Please help!

757
00:35:59,827 --> 00:36:00,965
Oh god!

758
00:36:04,586 --> 00:36:05,413
Oh god!

759
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:06,655
What is happening?

760
00:36:06,655 --> 00:36:07,620
Help!

761
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:08,862
That's me, and the effects guy

762
00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:11,620
yanking those people
under the sand.

763
00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:14,241
We got a tractor out
there on the beach

764
00:36:14,241 --> 00:36:16,517
by the Santa Monica Pier,

765
00:36:16,517 --> 00:36:19,275
and we dug a big pit,
and we built a big

766
00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:21,689
rubber membrane
with a slit in it,

767
00:36:21,689 --> 00:36:24,862
and he and I, down in the pit,

768
00:36:24,862 --> 00:36:28,379
and when they are acting,
and flailing around,

769
00:36:28,379 --> 00:36:30,448
they are kicking like crazy.

770
00:36:30,448 --> 00:36:32,620
And we are grabbing
onto them like crazy,

771
00:36:32,620 --> 00:36:35,965
yanking them under.

772
00:36:35,965 --> 00:36:37,379
Ah, it was so much fun.

773
00:36:45,206 --> 00:36:47,275
The monster didn't
turn out that great.

774
00:36:47,275 --> 00:36:50,103
The effects guy, bless
his heart, did his best.

775
00:36:50,103 --> 00:36:52,482
I know the director
was not happy with it.

776
00:36:52,482 --> 00:36:55,551
But, you know, like not
showing the shark in "Jaws",

777
00:36:55,551 --> 00:36:57,724
it worked to an advantage.

778
00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:03,862
We built all these sets
onstage at Culver City Studios,

779
00:37:03,862 --> 00:37:07,034
where this monster lived, and
it was all supposed to look

780
00:37:07,034 --> 00:37:08,551
like Santa Monica
Pier, and whatnot,

781
00:37:08,551 --> 00:37:10,068
but I brought
seaweed in my trunk

782
00:37:10,068 --> 00:37:12,137
and threw the seaweed
behind the stage.

783
00:37:12,137 --> 00:37:13,931
Begins to take on the shape,

784
00:37:15,517 --> 00:37:17,000
where it slept.

785
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,241
I think Smell-O-Vision is a
very important part of sets.

786
00:37:19,241 --> 00:37:21,379
You don't want it to
smell like latex paint.

787
00:37:21,379 --> 00:37:23,689
We want it to smell like
whatever it's supposed

788
00:37:23,689 --> 00:37:24,517
to smell like.

789
00:37:24,517 --> 00:37:25,793
It really helped.

790
00:37:27,034 --> 00:37:29,551
I ended up with the
monster on my ranch,

791
00:37:29,551 --> 00:37:32,344
where my nieces and nephews
played in it for years

792
00:37:32,344 --> 00:37:34,068
until it slowly withered away.

793
00:37:34,068 --> 00:37:36,551
I saved its head in
my monster collection.

794
00:37:36,551 --> 00:37:39,793
But that's the sorry end of
the "Blood Beach" monster.

795
00:37:39,793 --> 00:37:41,103
It's also one of
those lost movies.

796
00:37:41,103 --> 00:37:44,068
It came out on VHS,
and then that's it.

797
00:37:44,068 --> 00:37:47,034
It's legendary for
being caught in limbo,

798
00:37:47,034 --> 00:37:50,275
rights-wise, and
residual payment-wise.

799
00:37:50,275 --> 00:37:52,034
Jeffrey Bloom, the
director, told me,

800
00:37:52,034 --> 00:37:54,344
I don't think he's ever made
any money off the picture,

801
00:37:54,344 --> 00:37:56,379
and he wrote and directed it.

802
00:37:56,379 --> 00:37:59,000
It's really a
mishmash of problems.

803
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,413
I'd love to see that reissued,

804
00:38:00,413 --> 00:38:03,172
somehow, if somebody
could untangle the issues

805
00:38:03,172 --> 00:38:05,241
surrounding poor
old "Blood Beach".

806
00:38:15,379 --> 00:38:16,206
Oh, "The Hand".

807
00:38:16,206 --> 00:38:17,379
Oh my god.

808
00:38:19,793 --> 00:38:24,000
Michael
Caine in "The Hand".

809
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,482
It could have
been so not good,

810
00:38:25,482 --> 00:38:28,620
because it's about an artist
whose hand gets cut off,

811
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:31,448
and the hand goes
around committing crimes

812
00:38:31,448 --> 00:38:35,793
that he's trying not
to commit.

813
00:38:35,793 --> 00:38:37,689
The hand goes and does it.

814
00:38:43,896 --> 00:38:46,172
Oliver Stone, he had
gotten a lot of notice

815
00:38:46,172 --> 00:38:48,344
with "Midnight Express".

816
00:38:48,344 --> 00:38:53,344
And he thought "The Hand"
was gonna be a major movie.

817
00:38:56,206 --> 00:38:59,413
Made and released
by a major studio,

818
00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:02,137
but it had this really hopped up

819
00:39:02,137 --> 00:39:06,172
kind of exploitation tone to it

820
00:39:06,172 --> 00:39:08,862
that was very Corman.

821
00:39:08,862 --> 00:39:12,965
It just was really
intense and outrageous.

822
00:39:15,344 --> 00:39:18,379
I rented it as a kid
because I knew it dealt

823
00:39:18,379 --> 00:39:23,379
with comic books, and
like a phantom appendage.

824
00:39:24,793 --> 00:39:27,517
So there's this guy on the
verge of a nervous breakdown,

825
00:39:27,517 --> 00:39:30,965
I guess, and he is
a comic book artist,

826
00:39:30,965 --> 00:39:34,103
like a famous, established
comic book artist.

827
00:39:34,103 --> 00:39:36,241
His marriage is on the rocks.

828
00:39:36,241 --> 00:39:37,862
There's this scene,

829
00:39:37,862 --> 00:39:40,000
as a kid, it was
really horrific.

830
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,896
It's Michael Caine, you know,
one of our greatest actors,

831
00:39:42,896 --> 00:39:44,793
squirting blood
all over the place.

832
00:39:48,655 --> 00:39:51,206
Anybody who messes
with Michael Caine

833
00:39:51,206 --> 00:39:52,241
gets the hand.

834
00:39:55,034 --> 00:39:57,034
Killing anybody that's
standing in the way

835
00:39:57,034 --> 00:39:58,000
of his mission.

836
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,689
Or is it?

837
00:40:05,965 --> 00:40:08,586
He doesn't know
if he's insane,

838
00:40:08,586 --> 00:40:11,827
or there really is a
disembodied hand chasing him.

839
00:40:13,034 --> 00:40:14,896
Michael Caine's
a terrific actor,

840
00:40:14,896 --> 00:40:18,068
but he went through a
period where he never saw

841
00:40:18,068 --> 00:40:19,862
a paycheck he didn't like.

842
00:40:21,275 --> 00:40:23,000
They call it the Michael
Caine School of Acting,

843
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,275
you know, when you
get a role, take it.

844
00:40:28,379 --> 00:40:31,827
Even if the material
isn't good, he delivered.

845
00:40:31,827 --> 00:40:33,517
I think that at least you-

846
00:40:36,344 --> 00:40:37,103
I think.

847
00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:40,068
You should get out of here.

848
00:40:40,068 --> 00:40:43,344
And it always elevated
every movie he was in.

849
00:40:43,344 --> 00:40:46,482
It's from a book called
"The Lizard's Tail".

850
00:40:46,482 --> 00:40:49,034
We struggled for
many, many months

851
00:40:49,034 --> 00:40:53,241
playing with that idea of
what is the sound of the hand?

852
00:40:53,241 --> 00:40:54,758
Does it breathe?

853
00:40:54,758 --> 00:40:57,655
Is it just fingernail
sounds when it's crawling?

854
00:40:57,655 --> 00:40:59,448
Because whenever
the hand approached,

855
00:40:59,448 --> 00:41:01,965
we wanted to get into
that sound design moment

856
00:41:01,965 --> 00:41:04,344
of the universe, the
sound universe changes.

857
00:41:04,344 --> 00:41:07,241
And we brought in a
team of trained actors

858
00:41:07,241 --> 00:41:09,965
who would do group
vocalizations,

859
00:41:09,965 --> 00:41:14,206
but we had them do what
we called Fellini-esque

860
00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:18,000
vocalizations, so we did
weird breathing patterns,

861
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,551
and freeform screaming.

862
00:41:26,931 --> 00:41:29,103
It's really, really cool stuff.

863
00:41:33,482 --> 00:41:35,586
For a disembodied hand movie,
it's quite well-written.

864
00:41:35,586 --> 00:41:38,448
As I used to say in
marketing the movie,

865
00:41:38,448 --> 00:41:41,275
it's one of the best
disembodied hand movies ever.

866
00:41:41,275 --> 00:41:43,793
What
happened to the hand?

867
00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:45,586
Oh, mommy went to look for it.

868
00:41:47,413 --> 00:41:48,206
But it ran away.

869
00:41:55,724 --> 00:41:57,379
"Bloody Birthday".

870
00:41:57,379 --> 00:41:59,896
A terrifying journey
into the bizarre.

871
00:41:59,896 --> 00:42:02,103
Will you get out alive?

872
00:42:02,103 --> 00:42:05,034
Three kids are born at
the same time in a hospital

873
00:42:05,034 --> 00:42:06,827
during an eclipse.

874
00:42:08,551 --> 00:42:10,172
It's
a boy, Mrs. Taylor!

875
00:42:10,172 --> 00:42:12,965
And for some reason,
this has astrologically

876
00:42:12,965 --> 00:42:14,482
made them evil.

877
00:42:14,482 --> 00:42:17,965
When they get to be 10, they
sort of go on killing spree.

878
00:42:24,241 --> 00:42:28,793
It plays on the fear
of how scary kids can be,

879
00:42:28,793 --> 00:42:31,448
especially if they
don't have the influence

880
00:42:31,448 --> 00:42:33,827
of discipline, and adults.

881
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:36,586
Like that scene with the cake.

882
00:42:36,586 --> 00:42:38,034
That's terrifying.

883
00:42:38,034 --> 00:42:40,793
He's trying to make her think

884
00:42:40,793 --> 00:42:42,965
that he's poisoning the cake.

885
00:42:42,965 --> 00:42:45,137
The poison was just
sitting on the counter.

886
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000
I was putting it away.

887
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,275
You were not, you little liar!

888
00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:51,275
That scene is so messed up,

889
00:42:51,275 --> 00:42:54,310
because he knows what
he's doing as a child,

890
00:42:54,310 --> 00:42:58,241
and taking advantage of
his seemingly innocence

891
00:42:58,241 --> 00:42:59,965
for his own benefit.

892
00:43:04,034 --> 00:43:07,172
Debbie, she's a
horrible little child.

893
00:43:07,172 --> 00:43:08,413
I just love her as a villain.

894
00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:10,068
Can you and Timmy
come over to babysit?

895
00:43:10,068 --> 00:43:11,310
Sure.

896
00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:12,310
What time do you
want me to come over?

897
00:43:12,310 --> 00:43:13,793
11 o'clock.

898
00:43:13,793 --> 00:43:15,034
Okay.

899
00:43:15,034 --> 00:43:17,379
My little sister
is selling tickets

900
00:43:17,379 --> 00:43:21,724
to watch me, you
know, get naked.

901
00:43:21,724 --> 00:43:24,758
I was very young, it was
one of my first years

902
00:43:24,758 --> 00:43:26,172
as an actress.

903
00:43:26,172 --> 00:43:28,448
So many actresses, especially
at that time in the 80s,

904
00:43:28,448 --> 00:43:30,517
that they had some sort of film

905
00:43:30,517 --> 00:43:33,896
where they had to be naked or
topless or something, right?

906
00:43:33,896 --> 00:43:35,896
It wasn't that uncommon.

907
00:43:35,896 --> 00:43:37,965
So I thought, okay.

908
00:43:37,965 --> 00:43:42,413
I wasn't gonna, like, be
topless in the audition.

909
00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:45,413
So they said, well, we
need to see your boobs.

910
00:43:45,413 --> 00:43:46,758
And I'm like, why?

911
00:43:46,758 --> 00:43:47,689
And they go, because
what if you have

912
00:43:47,689 --> 00:43:48,724
a weird boob or something?

913
00:43:48,724 --> 00:43:50,172
So I took my top
off in the room,

914
00:43:50,172 --> 00:43:51,482
and I took a Polaroid.

915
00:43:51,482 --> 00:43:53,551
And then they let the
director look at it,

916
00:43:53,551 --> 00:43:54,931
and they gave it back to me.

917
00:43:56,620 --> 00:43:58,655
I don't know how
other girls are cast

918
00:43:58,655 --> 00:44:01,206
for topless things, but
that's what happened to me.

919
00:44:02,689 --> 00:44:06,000
And there's a little hole
between the closet and her room,

920
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,827
and I look in there, and
then they hit me in the eye

921
00:44:08,827 --> 00:44:11,172
with an arrow, and
that's how I die.

922
00:44:16,965 --> 00:44:18,931
They're dragging
my dead body around

923
00:44:18,931 --> 00:44:20,275
for a big portion of it.

924
00:44:20,275 --> 00:44:22,689
And that's depressing.

925
00:44:25,172 --> 00:44:26,517
And at first I
wouldn't talk about it,

926
00:44:26,517 --> 00:44:29,344
but then I thought,
really, who cares?

927
00:44:29,344 --> 00:44:30,862
Right?

928
00:44:30,862 --> 00:44:33,034
Even though honestly my
son doesn't know about it,

929
00:44:33,896 --> 00:44:34,862
and he's never seen it.

930
00:44:34,862 --> 00:44:36,517
So.

931
00:44:36,517 --> 00:44:37,724
Debbie?

932
00:44:37,724 --> 00:44:38,689
What's wrong, Debbie?

933
00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:42,965
"Bloody Birthday" wasn't
well-received at all

934
00:44:42,965 --> 00:44:45,655
when it came out,
because of the fact that

935
00:44:45,655 --> 00:44:47,172
these were evil kids.

936
00:44:47,172 --> 00:44:48,655
People would get so offended

937
00:44:48,655 --> 00:44:52,000
by all the sexual and violent
situations placed in it,

938
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,448
but the kids were actually
having a great time,

939
00:44:55,379 --> 00:44:56,310
and they thought
it was playtime,

940
00:44:56,310 --> 00:44:59,206
and that was comforting to know,

941
00:44:59,206 --> 00:45:01,172
because we wouldn't want
them to be traumatized

942
00:45:01,172 --> 00:45:02,517
at all by the experience.

943
00:45:02,517 --> 00:45:05,931
Does anybody know what
the word murder means?

944
00:45:13,827 --> 00:45:16,275
Pray
you're not invited.

945
00:45:17,551 --> 00:45:20,793
If you get a great
image on the cover,

946
00:45:20,793 --> 00:45:22,000
that's half the battle.

947
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,448
And when you see that
guy with his mouth open,

948
00:45:23,448 --> 00:45:25,655
and the skewer, the
shish kabob is going in,

949
00:45:25,655 --> 00:45:27,137
like, I'm in.

950
00:45:27,137 --> 00:45:29,206
And Melissa Sue
Anderson, who is from

951
00:45:29,206 --> 00:45:30,620
Little House on the Prairie.

952
00:45:31,793 --> 00:45:35,689
This was gonna be her
big moment as an adult,

953
00:45:35,689 --> 00:45:39,482
playing a high school
girl in a slasher flick.

954
00:45:40,413 --> 00:45:42,034
This was more like the tail end

955
00:45:42,034 --> 00:45:44,379
of the holiday murder movies,

956
00:45:44,379 --> 00:45:46,344
so people were still
taking it seriously.

957
00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:48,655
They were like okay, we're
gonna ride this wave.

958
00:45:50,068 --> 00:45:51,758
This could be a massive hit,

959
00:45:51,758 --> 00:45:54,517
so let's really, really
go for it, you know?

960
00:45:54,517 --> 00:45:57,655
It's about this group of
kids at this elite school.

961
00:45:57,655 --> 00:45:59,620
The killer is one of
them, because every time

962
00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:02,000
someone gets killed,
it's like, oh it's you.

963
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,413
Virginia, who was kinda
new to this group,

964
00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:07,103
we slowly learn that
she has these holes

965
00:46:07,103 --> 00:46:08,034
in her memory.

966
00:46:08,034 --> 00:46:09,413
And today I remembered.

967
00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:10,655
Yes.

968
00:46:10,655 --> 00:46:13,275
And tomorrow, you
will remember more.

969
00:46:13,275 --> 00:46:14,103
Even the-

970
00:46:14,103 --> 00:46:15,310
Even the accident.

971
00:46:15,310 --> 00:46:16,965
Her friends are like,
they're disappearing

972
00:46:16,965 --> 00:46:18,586
more than dying.

973
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,034
So she has all this trauma
around her birthday,

974
00:46:22,034 --> 00:46:24,000
which should be a
moment of celebration.

975
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,827
Hi there.

976
00:46:26,827 --> 00:46:27,655
Rudy!

977
00:46:27,655 --> 00:46:28,862
Where have you been?

978
00:46:28,862 --> 00:46:30,896
Who's doing the killing?

979
00:46:30,896 --> 00:46:32,068
Is it her?

980
00:46:32,068 --> 00:46:33,413
Because she's messed up?

981
00:46:35,275 --> 00:46:36,172
Or is it not?

982
00:46:36,172 --> 00:46:37,689
Lighten up!

983
00:46:37,689 --> 00:46:39,344
You touch me again, I'm
gonna fucking kill you!

984
00:46:39,344 --> 00:46:41,103
And that's a very
real, tangible,

985
00:46:41,103 --> 00:46:46,103
real life fear, of having a
part of your whole memory gone.

986
00:46:47,482 --> 00:46:48,896
What happened
before the accident?

987
00:46:48,896 --> 00:46:51,482
You've got to try to remember.

988
00:46:51,482 --> 00:46:53,379
The kills are great.

989
00:46:53,379 --> 00:46:54,620
The gore is great.

990
00:46:54,620 --> 00:46:58,310
There's some very good
tense moments in it.

991
00:47:01,241 --> 00:47:02,896
One of the classic
kills from this movie.

992
00:47:02,896 --> 00:47:04,034
We have Greg.

993
00:47:04,034 --> 00:47:06,103
He's doing his weights,
he's very strong.

994
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,965
Okay, that's it.

995
00:47:08,965 --> 00:47:13,275
Holds the weight above
his penis, and drops it.

996
00:47:16,620 --> 00:47:17,551
Greg is dead.

997
00:47:17,551 --> 00:47:19,000
From a weight to the peen.

998
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,689
Yup.

999
00:47:22,068 --> 00:47:23,758
I panicked!

1000
00:47:23,758 --> 00:47:26,137
I came here, god I
thought you'd help me!

1001
00:47:26,137 --> 00:47:27,724
So the ending of
"Happy Birthday" to me

1002
00:47:27,724 --> 00:47:29,758
is what stuck with me

1003
00:47:29,758 --> 00:47:33,827
all my life, because it's crazy.

1004
00:47:33,827 --> 00:47:38,448
♪ Happy birthday to me

1005
00:47:38,448 --> 00:47:42,103
♪ Happy birthday to me

1006
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,103
Pray for day.

1007
00:47:50,103 --> 00:47:51,551
"Hell Night".

1008
00:47:51,551 --> 00:47:53,379
One of my favorite
things about "Hell Night'

1009
00:47:53,379 --> 00:47:55,793
is just being able
to see Linda Blair

1010
00:47:55,793 --> 00:47:56,827
do something different.

1011
00:47:56,827 --> 00:47:58,344
Who's she?

1012
00:47:59,758 --> 00:48:01,448
Oh, that's one
of the new pledges.

1013
00:48:01,448 --> 00:48:02,413
They call her Marty.

1014
00:48:02,413 --> 00:48:03,689
And it feels almost like,

1015
00:48:03,689 --> 00:48:06,000
what if Regan survives
after "The Exorcist",

1016
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,827
and she decides
to go to college?

1017
00:48:09,206 --> 00:48:10,448
She's gonna go and
be in a sorority,

1018
00:48:10,448 --> 00:48:11,620
and she's gonna have
this normal life,

1019
00:48:11,620 --> 00:48:12,896
and she ends up
stuck in this mansion

1020
00:48:12,896 --> 00:48:15,586
where it's like a
weird, mutant offspring.

1021
00:48:15,586 --> 00:48:18,551
It feels really unusual
compared to a lot

1022
00:48:18,551 --> 00:48:21,689
of the other sort of teen
and 20-something centric

1023
00:48:21,689 --> 00:48:25,482
horror movies that were
coming out in the early 1980s.

1024
00:48:25,482 --> 00:48:27,827
In 1850, Virgil Garth
built this mansion

1025
00:48:27,827 --> 00:48:29,758
with the gold that was
pouring out of his mines.

1026
00:48:29,758 --> 00:48:31,620
So they introduce
this whole backstory

1027
00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:34,103
about Garth Manor, and this
guy who kills his family,

1028
00:48:34,103 --> 00:48:36,965
like he kills his wife,
and he has mutated kids.

1029
00:48:36,965 --> 00:48:39,172
And then Raymond
Garth got a rope

1030
00:48:39,172 --> 00:48:40,655
and hung himself to death.

1031
00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:43,896
And then he hangs himself,

1032
00:48:43,896 --> 00:48:46,103
but two of the kids are missing.

1033
00:48:46,103 --> 00:48:48,896
It was like okay, we're gonna
throw a couple sorority girls

1034
00:48:48,896 --> 00:48:51,275
and a couple fraternity
brothers in a house overnight

1035
00:48:51,275 --> 00:48:52,620
and see what happens.

1036
00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:54,000
We'll see you four a dawn.

1037
00:48:56,965 --> 00:48:58,068
Just about six hours.

1038
00:48:58,068 --> 00:48:59,896
You have Peter
Barton and Linda Blair,

1039
00:48:59,896 --> 00:49:01,344
and they're sort of hanging out,

1040
00:49:01,344 --> 00:49:03,620
and then you've got
promiscuous gal,

1041
00:49:04,482 --> 00:49:05,758
and then the stoner surfer dude,

1042
00:49:05,758 --> 00:49:07,482
and they're gonna get
together and have fun.

1043
00:49:07,482 --> 00:49:08,862
Hey!

1044
00:49:08,862 --> 00:49:11,413
And then it evolves
into this whole

1045
00:49:11,413 --> 00:49:15,103
elaborate gothic
nightmare for them.

1046
00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:23,103
Peter Barton, he actually
did get hurt during the film,

1047
00:49:23,103 --> 00:49:24,827
so there's a lot of the
movie where you see him

1048
00:49:24,827 --> 00:49:26,379
limping around, but
that was very real.

1049
00:49:26,379 --> 00:49:29,586
That wasn't because of what
happened to his character.

1050
00:49:31,206 --> 00:49:32,172
No!

1051
00:49:32,172 --> 00:49:33,275
They couldn't stop filming,

1052
00:49:33,275 --> 00:49:34,758
so they just had
to push forward,

1053
00:49:34,758 --> 00:49:37,862
and he basically had to
work through an ankle injury

1054
00:49:37,862 --> 00:49:39,103
for like half the movie.

1055
00:49:40,344 --> 00:49:41,275
It's got some issues,
but I think ultimately,

1056
00:49:41,275 --> 00:49:42,655
"Hell Night" really stands out

1057
00:49:42,655 --> 00:49:45,344
in comparison to a lot
of other horror movies

1058
00:49:45,344 --> 00:49:48,000
that were coming out
around the same time.

1059
00:49:59,482 --> 00:50:01,689
A gem I discovered on
cable back in the 80s,

1060
00:50:01,689 --> 00:50:03,551
and that I push on
people as often as I can

1061
00:50:03,551 --> 00:50:05,034
is "The Unseen".

1062
00:50:05,034 --> 00:50:06,655
The
terror is unleashed.

1063
00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:07,896
No!

1064
00:50:07,896 --> 00:50:10,000
The
horror is unequal.

1065
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,793
"The Unseen".

1066
00:50:11,793 --> 00:50:14,896
"The Unseen" is about
an all-woman news crew

1067
00:50:14,896 --> 00:50:17,586
who are covering a festival
in Solvang California.

1068
00:50:17,586 --> 00:50:20,931
They screwed up, someone didn't
make a hotel reservation.

1069
00:50:20,931 --> 00:50:22,068
They have nowhere to stay.

1070
00:50:22,068 --> 00:50:24,137
They hit up this
museum where they find

1071
00:50:24,137 --> 00:50:28,034
the great Sydney Lassick, who
offers them a place to stay.

1072
00:50:28,034 --> 00:50:29,517
It's, it's not the Ritz,

1073
00:50:29,517 --> 00:50:32,103
but it'll run a close
second.

1074
00:50:32,103 --> 00:50:32,965
Sure.

1075
00:50:32,965 --> 00:50:34,448
That's great.

1076
00:50:34,448 --> 00:50:35,413
The leader of this news
crew is Barbara Bach.

1077
00:50:35,413 --> 00:50:36,965
Of course, Mrs. Ringo Starr,

1078
00:50:36,965 --> 00:50:38,965
the Bond girl from
"The Spy Who Loved Me".

1079
00:50:38,965 --> 00:50:40,517
It's remarkable.

1080
00:50:40,517 --> 00:50:41,724
I'm impressed.

1081
00:50:42,551 --> 00:50:43,379
Scat.

1082
00:50:43,379 --> 00:50:44,965
Get off there, Ralph.

1083
00:50:44,965 --> 00:50:46,344
Sydney Lassick is one of
the great character actors

1084
00:50:46,344 --> 00:50:48,000
of the second half
of the 20th century.

1085
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,137
He was in "One Flew
Over the Cuckoo's Nest".

1086
00:50:50,137 --> 00:50:53,275
He was in "Alligator"
as the pet store owner.

1087
00:50:53,275 --> 00:50:54,517
He is off the chain.

1088
00:50:54,517 --> 00:50:55,551
He is just going
for it in this film.

1089
00:50:55,551 --> 00:50:57,482
Boo!

1090
00:51:00,275 --> 00:51:03,172
It's a delight to watch
him just chew the scenery.

1091
00:51:03,172 --> 00:51:05,724
Don't concern yourself
with that, Virginia.

1092
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,689
Just get the room ready.

1093
00:51:08,689 --> 00:51:10,034
The secret sauce
of "The Unseen"

1094
00:51:10,034 --> 00:51:11,793
is that it's very,
very talented people

1095
00:51:11,793 --> 00:51:13,586
doing something
very, very unsavory.

1096
00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:18,827
Sydney Lassick's wife in
the film, Leila Goldoni,

1097
00:51:18,827 --> 00:51:21,586
and he have a couple
of very intense scenes

1098
00:51:21,586 --> 00:51:24,758
about a secret that they
have in their basement.

1099
00:51:26,172 --> 00:51:27,551
They could find out.

1100
00:51:27,551 --> 00:51:28,896
Don't worry, my dear.

1101
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,724
No one will ever find out.

1102
00:51:33,103 --> 00:51:35,655
Junior in the film is this
developmentally disabled

1103
00:51:35,655 --> 00:51:38,793
grown man wearing a diaper
living in the basement.

1104
00:51:38,793 --> 00:51:40,586
I see you've met Junior.

1105
00:51:41,931 --> 00:51:44,896
Played by Flounder
from "Animal House",

1106
00:51:44,896 --> 00:51:45,758
the late great Stephen Furst.

1107
00:51:45,758 --> 00:51:47,000
And you come to find out

1108
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,655
he's accidentally
killing these women

1109
00:51:48,655 --> 00:51:50,310
because he doesn't
know his own strength.

1110
00:51:54,551 --> 00:51:55,379
"The Unseen" is,
in a lot of ways,

1111
00:51:55,379 --> 00:51:56,827
not a defensible film.

1112
00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:58,689
Ingestion is not endorsement.

1113
00:51:58,689 --> 00:52:00,034
I enjoyed it despite
how wrong it is.

1114
00:52:00,034 --> 00:52:01,620
Boo!

1115
00:52:13,689 --> 00:52:16,000
"The Prowler" is a
stalk slasher plot

1116
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,275
with a group of kids getting
ready for a graduation party

1117
00:52:19,275 --> 00:52:21,137
and they're stalked and killed

1118
00:52:21,137 --> 00:52:23,896
by a mysterious
killer in a GI outfit,

1119
00:52:23,896 --> 00:52:25,206
in Cape May, New Jersey.

1120
00:52:29,586 --> 00:52:31,448
There's a little
historical thrill

1121
00:52:31,448 --> 00:52:33,241
to seeing Farley
Granger from "Rope"

1122
00:52:33,241 --> 00:52:34,689
and "Strangers on a Train"

1123
00:52:34,689 --> 00:52:37,448
in an 80s slasher,
as like the sheriff

1124
00:52:37,448 --> 00:52:38,896
with a mysterious past.

1125
00:52:38,896 --> 00:52:40,517
Just some deodorant.

1126
00:52:40,517 --> 00:52:43,689
No sweat.

1127
00:52:43,689 --> 00:52:44,931
Get it?

1128
00:52:44,931 --> 00:52:47,137
That keeps you on
the edge of your seat.

1129
00:52:47,137 --> 00:52:49,724
You're just like, oh
god, he's right there.

1130
00:52:49,724 --> 00:52:51,620
Oh god, ugh, you know?

1131
00:52:55,137 --> 00:52:56,620
It's Savini at his best, man.

1132
00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:59,517
The kills are fucking
crazy, the gore is nuts.

1133
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,517
Tom Savini did some of
his best work in the film.

1134
00:53:07,724 --> 00:53:09,068
That kill scene in
the swimming pool

1135
00:53:09,068 --> 00:53:11,000
goes on forever.

1136
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,862
It's unbearable to watch.

1137
00:53:20,413 --> 00:53:23,000
Also one of the first
exploding heads.

1138
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,103
I don't think it was the
first exploding head,

1139
00:53:25,103 --> 00:53:26,965
but it was one of them.

1140
00:53:28,896 --> 00:53:33,413
It was the first pairing
of Savini and Zito,

1141
00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:36,379
who then went on to do
"Friday the 13th" part four.

1142
00:53:37,724 --> 00:53:39,793
Zito, man, say what you want,

1143
00:53:39,793 --> 00:53:41,310
but he had a great eye for it.

1144
00:53:47,689 --> 00:53:50,310
Putting aside George Romero's
relationship with Savini,

1145
00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:52,689
no director films
Tom Savini's kills

1146
00:53:52,689 --> 00:53:54,379
better than Jo Zito.

1147
00:53:54,379 --> 00:53:56,241
And I think that that
is front and center

1148
00:53:56,241 --> 00:53:57,482
of "The Prowler".

1149
00:53:57,482 --> 00:53:58,758
Not only how Savini
has designed them,

1150
00:53:58,758 --> 00:54:00,448
but that the director
has listened to Savini

1151
00:54:00,448 --> 00:54:02,827
in terms of how to
present those things.

1152
00:54:04,413 --> 00:54:06,241
There's something so
perverse about riffing

1153
00:54:06,241 --> 00:54:07,724
on the "Psycho" shower scene,

1154
00:54:07,724 --> 00:54:09,172
but with a pitchfork.

1155
00:54:09,172 --> 00:54:11,517
It's bright lights,
nowhere to hide,

1156
00:54:11,517 --> 00:54:13,586
just in your face kills.

1157
00:54:17,068 --> 00:54:19,551
I was just following
what they needed to happen

1158
00:54:19,551 --> 00:54:20,827
in the film.

1159
00:54:20,827 --> 00:54:24,724
I wasn't concerned with
how they were shooting.

1160
00:54:24,724 --> 00:54:26,896
Joe Zito, we showed everything.

1161
00:54:26,896 --> 00:54:29,206
So there became an
appeal for that.

1162
00:54:30,482 --> 00:54:34,448
I rode that appeal in
the movies of the 80s.

1163
00:54:37,517 --> 00:54:39,275
For me, it's the guy with
the hand over the mouth

1164
00:54:39,275 --> 00:54:41,172
and he's getting the
bayonet in the head.

1165
00:54:43,344 --> 00:54:45,620
The way it's edited,
and the way it's timed,

1166
00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:47,000
and it's just
whites of the eyes.

1167
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,896
It's grizzly, and it
really, really works.

1168
00:54:52,655 --> 00:54:54,241
It's a magic trick, which
Savini's always said

1169
00:54:54,241 --> 00:54:55,482
his effects are magic tricks,

1170
00:54:55,482 --> 00:54:58,310
but that one is like,
bang on.

1171
00:55:13,344 --> 00:55:16,172
Indonesia produced
an interesting horror
film in the 80s

1172
00:55:16,172 --> 00:55:18,448
called "Mystics in Bali".

1173
00:55:18,448 --> 00:55:21,586
I'm surprised that
a pretty girl like you

1174
00:55:21,586 --> 00:55:23,758
would be interested in
learning black magic.

1175
00:55:23,758 --> 00:55:25,275
Well, I'm just curious.

1176
00:55:25,275 --> 00:55:27,137
It seems like a
bit of a fever dream,

1177
00:55:27,137 --> 00:55:28,379
what happens in this film.

1178
00:55:28,379 --> 00:55:31,103
But essentially,
it's about a woman

1179
00:55:31,103 --> 00:55:34,448
who wants to learn more
about the mystical stuff

1180
00:55:34,448 --> 00:55:36,000
that happens in
Indonesian culture.

1181
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,275
You'll never forget this face.

1182
00:55:42,310 --> 00:55:44,310
And they're looking
around for this mystic,

1183
00:55:44,310 --> 00:55:47,482
and what they see instead
is a 50 foot tongue

1184
00:55:47,482 --> 00:55:49,896
coming out of the forest,
which is incredible.

1185
00:55:49,896 --> 00:55:51,448
It's like a snake-like tongue.

1186
00:55:51,448 --> 00:55:54,655
And what happens is this
tongue imprints words,

1187
00:55:54,655 --> 00:55:56,482
the name of the
creatures, on her thigh,

1188
00:55:56,482 --> 00:55:57,931
and then things go
from bad to worse

1189
00:55:57,931 --> 00:56:00,137
from that point, where
this woman manifests

1190
00:56:00,137 --> 00:56:03,896
into this creature, but
it's absolutely batshit.

1191
00:56:06,724 --> 00:56:09,068
I'm very interested in the
mythology of this creature,

1192
00:56:09,068 --> 00:56:10,724
which is very much
like a manananggal,

1193
00:56:10,724 --> 00:56:15,000
because you see that across
all different Asian cultures.

1194
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,379
So she has the ability to
split her body in half,

1195
00:56:18,379 --> 00:56:20,413
and the top half of her torso,

1196
00:56:20,413 --> 00:56:22,724
with all the entrails
hanging out, can fly around,

1197
00:56:22,724 --> 00:56:25,310
and jump on people and
kill them and eat them

1198
00:56:25,310 --> 00:56:28,172
while the bottom half kind
of scuttles around the floor.

1199
00:56:28,172 --> 00:56:30,689
One of the most
interesting scenes in this,

1200
00:56:30,689 --> 00:56:34,758
and kind of gross, is when
this disembodied torso

1201
00:56:34,758 --> 00:56:37,689
goes between the legs
of a pregnant woman,

1202
00:56:37,689 --> 00:56:39,206
and then basically
eats her unborn baby.

1203
00:56:39,206 --> 00:56:41,103
It is nuts.

1204
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,724
Then it goes up a
level of nuttiness,

1205
00:56:47,724 --> 00:56:49,793
they call up the good
version of this mystic,

1206
00:56:49,793 --> 00:56:54,517
and they have this big battle
using magic and animation,

1207
00:56:54,517 --> 00:56:56,517
and it's very interesting.

1208
00:57:00,827 --> 00:57:03,137
The ultimate theme
of "Mystics in Bali"

1209
00:57:03,137 --> 00:57:04,827
really is curiosity
kills the cat,

1210
00:57:04,827 --> 00:57:07,068
because this woman wants
to know information

1211
00:57:07,068 --> 00:57:09,413
that she has no right knowing.

1212
00:57:09,413 --> 00:57:13,000
This supernatural stuff
is way too powerful

1213
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,241
for a normal person, and I
don't know why she thought

1214
00:57:15,241 --> 00:57:18,103
that she could control
it, and harness it.

1215
00:57:18,103 --> 00:57:20,000
That particular
transgression ends up

1216
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,103
in the consequences
that befalls them

1217
00:57:22,103 --> 00:57:23,758
and everyone around them.

1218
00:57:36,275 --> 00:57:37,655
Now police have been skeptical

1219
00:57:37,655 --> 00:57:39,413
of investigating these acts,

1220
00:57:39,413 --> 00:57:41,413
just as we are in
reporting them,

1221
00:57:41,413 --> 00:57:42,413
but there's no
question that something

1222
00:57:42,413 --> 00:57:44,137
is going on out there.

1223
00:57:44,137 --> 00:57:45,965
When we think about the 1980s,

1224
00:57:45,965 --> 00:57:48,000
we think about the Reagan era,

1225
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,689
and a return to family values,

1226
00:57:49,689 --> 00:57:51,551
and there is
something in the air

1227
00:57:51,551 --> 00:57:53,413
about the way that
things should be.

1228
00:57:53,413 --> 00:57:56,034
There is sin and
evil in the world,

1229
00:57:56,034 --> 00:57:58,586
and we're enjoined by
scripture, and the lord Jesus

1230
00:57:58,586 --> 00:58:00,517
to oppose it with all our might.

1231
00:58:00,517 --> 00:58:03,827
Religious right somehow had
moved into the mainstream.

1232
00:58:03,827 --> 00:58:06,379
Demand those parties
and politicians

1233
00:58:06,379 --> 00:58:09,689
align themselves with the
eternal values in this book,

1234
00:58:09,689 --> 00:58:11,862
and America will be forever

1235
00:58:11,862 --> 00:58:13,827
the greatest nation
on this earth!

1236
00:58:15,034 --> 00:58:16,793
There was a lot of
stuff in the ether

1237
00:58:16,793 --> 00:58:20,724
as far as satanic cults
and the evangelicals.

1238
00:58:20,724 --> 00:58:23,586
Whether Satan exists
is a matter of belief,

1239
00:58:23,586 --> 00:58:25,586
but we are certain
that Satanism exists.

1240
00:58:25,586 --> 00:58:29,172
Their fears were sort
of in the zeitgeist.

1241
00:58:29,172 --> 00:58:30,344
Could it be?

1242
00:58:31,310 --> 00:58:33,482
Satan!

1243
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,586
Growing up in the 80s under
the veil of the satanic panic,

1244
00:58:37,586 --> 00:58:39,827
you know, we were all
convinced by the far right

1245
00:58:39,827 --> 00:58:43,034
that there were these
cultists out there,

1246
00:58:43,034 --> 00:58:47,000
meddling with the dark arts
to try and abduct us kids

1247
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,896
and suck us into their
covens to drink babies' blood

1248
00:58:50,896 --> 00:58:53,172
and perform witchcraft.

1249
00:58:54,758 --> 00:58:57,068
We were like, no, they're
just cool scary movies.

1250
00:58:57,068 --> 00:58:58,586
I'll do that when I grow up

1251
00:58:58,586 --> 00:59:00,724
and I have a house of my
own, thank you very much.

1252
00:59:00,724 --> 00:59:02,724
I dread going to
these kinds of movies.

1253
00:59:02,724 --> 00:59:05,206
It really has become
the most depressing part

1254
00:59:05,206 --> 00:59:06,586
of my job as a film critic.

1255
00:59:06,586 --> 00:59:08,758
And there we are,
in total agreement.

1256
00:59:08,758 --> 00:59:10,103
In the UK and here in the US,

1257
00:59:10,103 --> 00:59:12,206
the census definitely
clamped down

1258
00:59:12,206 --> 00:59:14,758
on what was allowed, what
was acceptable content.

1259
00:59:14,758 --> 00:59:16,103
Half of American households

1260
00:59:16,103 --> 00:59:18,344
now have video
cassette recorders,

1261
00:59:18,344 --> 00:59:20,413
and for many children,
they're a ticket

1262
00:59:20,413 --> 00:59:22,827
to R-rated gore that
the kids are too young

1263
00:59:22,827 --> 00:59:24,275
to see at the movies.

1264
00:59:24,275 --> 00:59:26,724
There were a lot of
city people running around

1265
00:59:26,724 --> 00:59:29,551
saying oh, we can't
have this stuff.

1266
00:59:29,551 --> 00:59:30,896
It's much too violent.

1267
00:59:30,896 --> 00:59:32,793
Well parents and psychologists
are very concerned.

1268
00:59:32,793 --> 00:59:35,689
I have very vivid memories
of the Video Nasty Panic.

1269
00:59:35,689 --> 00:59:39,068
I was probably nine
or 10 years old

1270
00:59:39,068 --> 00:59:41,413
when it started to hit the news

1271
00:59:41,413 --> 00:59:45,137
that this filth was
entering our homes,

1272
00:59:45,137 --> 00:59:49,206
and a lot of moral
do-gooders and church people

1273
00:59:49,206 --> 00:59:52,827
and politicians started to
talk about these movies,

1274
00:59:52,827 --> 00:59:56,724
saying that they were
dangerous for society,

1275
00:59:56,724 --> 00:59:59,068
because anyone seeing
them, it could cause them

1276
00:59:59,068 --> 01:00:02,655
to be scarred, and to go out
and inflict harm on society.

1277
01:00:02,655 --> 01:00:05,551
Even today, if one is
inclined to believe in Satanism,

1278
01:00:05,551 --> 01:00:08,275
it's a way to actually
see the devil,

1279
01:00:08,275 --> 01:00:09,517
and perhaps be inspired.

1280
01:00:09,517 --> 01:00:11,275
I think people
were really afraid

1281
01:00:11,275 --> 01:00:12,862
because they were told to be.

1282
01:00:12,862 --> 01:00:15,793
That was the beginning
off the cult of fear

1283
01:00:15,793 --> 01:00:16,758
in this country.

1284
01:00:16,758 --> 01:00:18,344
I don't believe in censorship.

1285
01:00:19,551 --> 01:00:22,965
But I do believe that
we parents and leaders

1286
01:00:22,965 --> 01:00:24,689
have a reason to be concerned.

1287
01:00:24,689 --> 01:00:29,000
It was such a simple
use of religious moralism

1288
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,413
that they cracked
down on us in the 80s,

1289
01:00:33,620 --> 01:00:38,137
and in doing so,
really resurrected

1290
01:00:38,137 --> 01:00:42,034
a lot of these archaic ideas
about religious fundamentalism

1291
01:00:42,034 --> 01:00:45,000
that are so easy to
use when you're trying

1292
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,034
to manipulate large
masses of people.

1293
01:00:48,034 --> 01:00:51,172
Sure, television should
present life the way it is.

1294
01:00:51,172 --> 01:00:55,310
You can't tell somebody
else they can't like it,

1295
01:00:55,310 --> 01:00:56,931
because you don't like it.

1296
01:00:56,931 --> 01:00:59,655
That kind of psychology
is so unhealthy.

1297
01:00:59,655 --> 01:01:03,310
We needed the movies
of 80s horror cinema

1298
01:01:03,310 --> 01:01:07,896
to release a little
of that pent up steam.

1299
01:01:07,896 --> 01:01:09,551
And finally, music.

1300
01:01:09,551 --> 01:01:12,137
Which is found here in the
neighborhood record store

1301
01:01:12,137 --> 01:01:14,793
under the category
of heavy metal music.

1302
01:01:14,793 --> 01:01:18,000
There's a link between
heavy metal and horror.

1303
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,137
They're like some
strange cousins.

1304
01:01:19,137 --> 01:01:20,482
They always have been.

1305
01:01:20,482 --> 01:01:23,896
♪ We're the dream warriors

1306
01:01:23,896 --> 01:01:25,689
In the "Nightmare
on Elm Street" films,

1307
01:01:25,689 --> 01:01:28,241
the Dokken soundtrack
is a classic.

1308
01:01:29,103 --> 01:01:31,137
The satanic message is clear,

1309
01:01:31,137 --> 01:01:33,517
both in the album covers,
and in the lyrics,

1310
01:01:33,517 --> 01:01:36,689
which are reaching
impressionable young minds.

1311
01:01:36,689 --> 01:01:38,172
It's question of
content and values,

1312
01:01:38,172 --> 01:01:41,379
and parents need to tune in
to their children's world.

1313
01:01:41,379 --> 01:01:44,275
Anytime there's any kind
of a new wave of music,

1314
01:01:44,275 --> 01:01:47,137
there's always somebody who's
gonna have a problem with it.

1315
01:01:47,137 --> 01:01:50,000
And the fact that
you had Ozzy Osborne

1316
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,517
supposedly biting off the heads
of bats onstage and stuff,

1317
01:01:53,517 --> 01:01:56,689
that certainly threw people
for a loop.

1318
01:01:56,689 --> 01:01:58,206
This is entertainment?

1319
01:01:58,206 --> 01:02:00,724
This is what our kids are
looking at for entertainment?

1320
01:02:00,724 --> 01:02:01,965
Yes.

1321
01:02:01,965 --> 01:02:03,517
So in the height
of satanic panic

1322
01:02:03,517 --> 01:02:06,413
as the most metal and
punk rock thing to do

1323
01:02:06,413 --> 01:02:08,724
from the film community,
is they did films

1324
01:02:08,724 --> 01:02:11,379
about rock and roll and Satan.

1325
01:02:11,379 --> 01:02:14,655
The times that
we were living in,

1326
01:02:14,655 --> 01:02:18,517
it was a perfect tapestry
for us to utilize

1327
01:02:18,517 --> 01:02:23,206
what was going on in the
world as far as politics

1328
01:02:23,206 --> 01:02:24,862
and us making movies.

1329
01:02:24,862 --> 01:02:27,000
♪ Get down tonight

1330
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,793
I was in school in the 80s,

1331
01:02:28,793 --> 01:02:32,275
and there was a concern
among the whole caucus

1332
01:02:32,275 --> 01:02:35,517
of evangelicals that
Dungeons and Dragons

1333
01:02:35,517 --> 01:02:37,793
was a satanic sort of thing.

1334
01:02:37,793 --> 01:02:41,137
A lot of people hear
the phrase my sweet Satan.

1335
01:02:44,275 --> 01:02:46,793
♪ My sweet Satan

1336
01:02:46,793 --> 01:02:48,172
My sweet Satan.

1337
01:02:48,172 --> 01:02:49,413
The lyrics playing
backwards and all that stuff.

1338
01:02:49,413 --> 01:02:51,931
It was kind of a hysteria,

1339
01:02:51,931 --> 01:02:56,000
which doesn't feel all
that unfamiliar anymore.

1340
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,103
It tells you how
to close the gate.

1341
01:02:58,103 --> 01:03:01,137
Parents just didn't know
it was the record companies

1342
01:03:01,137 --> 01:03:05,310
that were telling them that
if you spin records backwards,

1343
01:03:05,310 --> 01:03:06,827
you'll hear Satan.

1344
01:03:10,448 --> 01:03:15,275
Literally one of the best
ideas for record companies

1345
01:03:15,275 --> 01:03:18,103
to come up with in
the history of music

1346
01:03:18,103 --> 01:03:20,551
was getting stupid
people to believe that.

1347
01:03:20,551 --> 01:03:23,103
But they did conjure
up Sammi Curr.

1348
01:03:25,793 --> 01:03:28,241
All a
part of the plan.

1349
01:03:28,241 --> 01:03:29,482
All right.

1350
01:03:29,482 --> 01:03:31,931
In the 80s, we had
a big controversy

1351
01:03:31,931 --> 01:03:35,206
with the lyrics, and
parents being very concerned

1352
01:03:35,206 --> 01:03:37,000
about what their kids
were listening to

1353
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,000
in heavy metal with
the pentagrams.

1354
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,517
There were Senate hearings,
and Congressional hearings,

1355
01:03:42,517 --> 01:03:44,551
that kind of thing,
and a lot of the wives

1356
01:03:44,551 --> 01:03:46,793
of the politicians
took up this cause

1357
01:03:46,793 --> 01:03:49,379
against heavy metal music.

1358
01:03:49,379 --> 01:03:51,448
♪ Rock and roll

1359
01:03:51,448 --> 01:03:52,931
♪ Rocking

1360
01:03:52,931 --> 01:03:55,482
"Trick or Treat", there's
a scene where Sammi Curr

1361
01:03:55,482 --> 01:03:59,482
is testifying against what's
supposed to be the PMRC.

1362
01:03:59,482 --> 01:04:01,172
If you were a parent,

1363
01:04:01,172 --> 01:04:04,103
would you want your kid
growing up around rock music?

1364
01:04:04,103 --> 01:04:05,344
Rock musicians?

1365
01:04:05,344 --> 01:04:06,586
I mean, with that
kind of values?

1366
01:04:06,586 --> 01:04:07,551
And he basically tells
him to go get fucked.

1367
01:04:07,551 --> 01:04:09,413
You cannot legislate morality.

1368
01:04:09,413 --> 01:04:11,620
- The teenage daughter-
- We will bring you down!

1369
01:04:11,620 --> 01:04:14,517
And that's the way
I was with my heroes.

1370
01:04:14,517 --> 01:04:17,344
That's the way my
fans are with me

1371
01:04:17,344 --> 01:04:19,000
when I'm telling
the establishment

1372
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,758
to go fuck themselves, you know?

1373
01:04:21,931 --> 01:04:24,758
There will always be
a need for a platform

1374
01:04:24,758 --> 01:04:27,931
to give people hope in
a sea of hopelessness.

1375
01:04:28,862 --> 01:04:31,862
I carried an M16 and you,

1376
01:04:31,862 --> 01:04:36,068
you carry that,
that, that guitar!

1377
01:04:36,068 --> 01:04:38,275
What they came up with
was a warning system

1378
01:04:38,275 --> 01:04:39,551
on the albums.

1379
01:04:39,551 --> 01:04:41,586
They wanted to rate
them, like rated R,

1380
01:04:41,586 --> 01:04:42,827
and things like that,
but they ended up

1381
01:04:42,827 --> 01:04:45,000
with just sort of
a warning label.

1382
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,517
But the album sold
better when they had

1383
01:04:46,517 --> 01:04:47,758
the warning label on them.

1384
01:04:52,827 --> 01:04:54,172
♪ We're not gonna take it

1385
01:04:54,172 --> 01:04:57,000
To me, horror and the
discovery of horror,

1386
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,931
you start finding these voices
outside of the mainstream,

1387
01:05:00,931 --> 01:05:05,241
who are willing to push
a lot of boundaries

1388
01:05:05,241 --> 01:05:08,931
and question a lot
of the establishment,

1389
01:05:08,931 --> 01:05:12,379
and scaring the crack
out of all the PTA moms

1390
01:05:12,379 --> 01:05:15,586
and school superintendents
and Cub Scout leaders

1391
01:05:15,586 --> 01:05:17,482
that were trying to
make sure we all fit

1392
01:05:17,482 --> 01:05:19,896
right into the mold
that they wanted us to.

1393
01:05:19,896 --> 01:05:20,724
God!

1394
01:05:22,103 --> 01:05:23,241
God is dead!

1395
01:05:23,241 --> 01:05:24,275
- Hail Satan!
- Satan lives!

1396
01:05:25,551 --> 01:05:27,862
It's an ever-perpetual cycle

1397
01:05:27,862 --> 01:05:31,827
that the entire human experience
centers itself around,

1398
01:05:31,827 --> 01:05:33,689
that events are out of control.

1399
01:05:33,689 --> 01:05:37,206
There has to be something
that can set it right.

1400
01:05:37,206 --> 01:05:40,620
And there are many people
who will seize on anything.

1401
01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:42,413
They want a solution.

1402
01:05:42,413 --> 01:05:43,965
They want deliverance.

1403
01:05:43,965 --> 01:05:45,448
We fall for everything.

1404
01:05:45,448 --> 01:05:50,172
I recall that being the most
ridiculous waste of time.

1405
01:05:50,172 --> 01:05:52,620
It's been heading in that
direction for a long time.

1406
01:05:52,620 --> 01:05:55,517
Now we're totally
divided as a country.

1407
01:05:55,517 --> 01:05:57,827
And it's crap like
that that does it.

1408
01:06:11,241 --> 01:06:13,379
"Butcher,
Baker, Nightmare Maker".

1409
01:06:13,379 --> 01:06:14,655
Rated R.

1410
01:06:14,655 --> 01:06:16,931
Starts Friday at a
theater near you.

1411
01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:19,172
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker".

1412
01:06:19,172 --> 01:06:21,206
I mean, that's an
incredible title.

1413
01:06:21,206 --> 01:06:23,551
That movie should
have done really well.

1414
01:06:25,379 --> 01:06:27,068
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"

1415
01:06:27,068 --> 01:06:29,896
is another of the Video Nasties.

1416
01:06:35,586 --> 01:06:38,000
So this is the cover
that I saw on the shelf

1417
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,482
when I saw it in around 1983.

1418
01:06:40,482 --> 01:06:44,000
And it is Susan Tyrrell
covered in blood.

1419
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,827
The kind of thing that
I would have rented.

1420
01:06:45,827 --> 01:06:47,965
I'm gonna get that
scholarship if I can!

1421
01:06:47,965 --> 01:06:50,241
I'm going away to school,
and no one's gonna stop me!

1422
01:06:50,241 --> 01:06:51,724
Not even you!

1423
01:06:51,724 --> 01:06:54,000
"Butcher, Baker, Nightmare
Maker" is about a kid

1424
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,965
who wants to go off to
college, and an aunt

1425
01:06:55,965 --> 01:06:57,000
who doesn't want him to.

1426
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,620
And the murder that she goes to

1427
01:06:59,620 --> 01:07:00,862
to keep him there.

1428
01:07:03,551 --> 01:07:05,310
Everybody's so obsessed
with the sex life

1429
01:07:05,310 --> 01:07:06,965
of a 17-year-old.

1430
01:07:06,965 --> 01:07:08,241
I was thinking, um,

1431
01:07:08,241 --> 01:07:11,344
can I invite Julia over
for my birthday dinner?

1432
01:07:11,344 --> 01:07:12,965
Julia again?

1433
01:07:12,965 --> 01:07:14,413
Sounds serious.

1434
01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:17,103
That's probably the most
real life part of this movie,

1435
01:07:17,103 --> 01:07:19,275
is everybody trying to
figure out if this kid's gay.

1436
01:07:19,275 --> 01:07:21,482
Do you like
girls, Ms. Roberts?

1437
01:07:21,482 --> 01:07:22,724
God, you're a pig.

1438
01:07:22,724 --> 01:07:23,965
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"

1439
01:07:23,965 --> 01:07:27,172
is about people
trying to out you.

1440
01:07:27,172 --> 01:07:28,206
So tell me.

1441
01:07:28,206 --> 01:07:29,344
Are you two making love?

1442
01:07:29,344 --> 01:07:31,620
I am not going to answer that.

1443
01:07:31,620 --> 01:07:34,551
The kind of twisted
perversity of the movie

1444
01:07:34,551 --> 01:07:37,103
is like really
interesting, I think.

1445
01:07:38,310 --> 01:07:41,620
It's cheesy, but
it's also queasy.

1446
01:07:43,034 --> 01:07:45,551
You're just kinda like,
is she trying to fuck him?

1447
01:07:45,551 --> 01:07:47,310
This is making me uncomfortable.

1448
01:07:47,310 --> 01:07:48,137
Ooh.

1449
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,448
You're so cute.

1450
01:07:51,448 --> 01:07:53,137
It dealt with incest.

1451
01:07:53,137 --> 01:07:56,275
It dealt with
repressed sexuality.

1452
01:07:56,275 --> 01:07:58,103
Homicidal tendencies.

1453
01:07:58,103 --> 01:08:00,655
I mean, this is like
Tennessee Williams pathos

1454
01:08:00,655 --> 01:08:03,137
that we're dealing with in
this really messed up film

1455
01:08:03,137 --> 01:08:04,448
where these people gave these

1456
01:08:04,448 --> 01:08:07,172
really disturbing performances.

1457
01:08:14,896 --> 01:08:16,965
Will Asher seemed like
an odd choice to me,

1458
01:08:16,965 --> 01:08:20,068
having come from being
creator of Bewitched,

1459
01:08:20,068 --> 01:08:22,620
and having directed I Love Lucy,

1460
01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:24,758
but he had a way with actors,

1461
01:08:24,758 --> 01:08:27,586
and he really brought in
some great performances

1462
01:08:27,586 --> 01:08:28,517
in that film.

1463
01:08:29,827 --> 01:08:31,620
♪ Billy's got a
girlfriend, Billy ♪

1464
01:08:32,448 --> 01:08:33,275
Billy, don't do that.

1465
01:08:33,275 --> 01:08:34,206
That's disgusting.

1466
01:08:34,206 --> 01:08:35,172
It's kind of a tour de force

1467
01:08:35,172 --> 01:08:37,000
mad over the top performance

1468
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,172
by Susan Tyrrell.

1469
01:08:38,172 --> 01:08:39,103
The only thing that's wrong

1470
01:08:39,103 --> 01:08:40,000
is that you are in my house.

1471
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,931
Now get out of here!

1472
01:08:41,931 --> 01:08:42,896
Get out!

1473
01:08:42,896 --> 01:08:43,724
I just-

1474
01:08:43,724 --> 01:08:44,551
Get out of here!

1475
01:08:44,551 --> 01:08:46,241
I just want-

1476
01:08:46,241 --> 01:08:47,793
Where is her Oscar
for "Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"?

1477
01:08:47,793 --> 01:08:49,586
Retroactively give it to her.

1478
01:08:53,482 --> 01:08:54,896
What do you
think you're doing?

1479
01:08:54,896 --> 01:08:57,000
This performance is
like the performance

1480
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,965
of the 1980s.

1481
01:08:58,965 --> 01:09:00,413
A new girlfriend.

1482
01:09:02,413 --> 01:09:05,551
Susan Tyrrell is just
getting more and more crazy

1483
01:09:05,551 --> 01:09:06,965
as the movie goes on.

1484
01:09:06,965 --> 01:09:08,620
Just a pleasure to watch.

1485
01:09:08,620 --> 01:09:10,655
It also has Bill Paxton
in it, by the way,

1486
01:09:10,655 --> 01:09:13,000
who's kind of playing
a bully character,

1487
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,551
very similar to the
character he plays

1488
01:09:14,551 --> 01:09:16,103
in "Weird Science".

1489
01:09:16,103 --> 01:09:17,689
He was supposed to be
the lead originally

1490
01:09:17,689 --> 01:09:19,137
but they ended up
going with someone

1491
01:09:19,137 --> 01:09:20,758
who was then more famous.

1492
01:09:20,758 --> 01:09:22,689
Some of us think we're
better than others.

1493
01:09:22,689 --> 01:09:24,517
Some of us are
better than others.

1494
01:09:24,517 --> 01:09:28,310
Paxton was so gung ho at
the beginning of his career

1495
01:09:28,310 --> 01:09:31,310
that he would come
to the cutting room.

1496
01:09:31,310 --> 01:09:34,206
He was the guy who
really wanted to learn

1497
01:09:34,206 --> 01:09:36,551
about the whole
movie making process,

1498
01:09:36,551 --> 01:09:38,413
and he went on to have
such a great career,

1499
01:09:38,413 --> 01:09:41,344
and was gone way too soon.

1500
01:09:41,344 --> 01:09:45,793
I believe that
you and Phil Brody

1501
01:09:45,793 --> 01:09:48,068
were having a lovers quarrel.

1502
01:09:48,068 --> 01:09:50,758
It has these queer themes,
it plays on gay panic,

1503
01:09:50,758 --> 01:09:52,655
but in 1983 when
it's re-released

1504
01:09:52,655 --> 01:09:55,586
as Night Warning, it's
released into a world

1505
01:09:55,586 --> 01:09:58,448
that sees gay characters
a little bit differently.

1506
01:09:58,448 --> 01:10:01,517
Keep it limp like

1507
01:10:01,517 --> 01:10:03,206
AIDS, by 1983,

1508
01:10:03,206 --> 01:10:06,620
it was referred to as Gay
Plague, and Gay Cancer.

1509
01:10:06,620 --> 01:10:08,448
And that's what people
were afraid of at the time.

1510
01:10:08,448 --> 01:10:10,448
Do you know that homosexuals

1511
01:10:10,448 --> 01:10:12,482
are very, very sick?

1512
01:10:12,482 --> 01:10:13,862
Do you know that, Billy?

1513
01:10:13,862 --> 01:10:15,551
Coach Flanders is not sick!

1514
01:10:15,551 --> 01:10:17,000
I don't know if I'll
ever watch it again

1515
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,517
for the rest of my life,
but I'm glad I saw it

1516
01:10:19,517 --> 01:10:20,551
when I was a kid.

1517
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,827
Probably made me into the
weirdo that I am today.

1518
01:10:23,827 --> 01:10:24,758
I don't know.

1519
01:10:32,206 --> 01:10:33,517
"Parasite".

1520
01:10:33,517 --> 01:10:36,586
The first futuristic
monster movie in 3D.

1521
01:10:36,586 --> 01:10:41,551
"Parasite 3D" was
a Charlie Band movie.

1522
01:10:49,586 --> 01:10:52,482
And Stan Winston created
the Parasite effects for us.

1523
01:10:52,482 --> 01:10:53,551
Low budget.

1524
01:10:59,551 --> 01:11:00,793
We gotta do something.

1525
01:11:00,793 --> 01:11:03,482
Notable for Demi Moore
making her film debut.

1526
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:05,413
Tell me where it is!

1527
01:11:06,448 --> 01:11:08,517
Go to hell!

1528
01:11:08,517 --> 01:11:13,482
It was set in a
post nuclear world,

1529
01:11:13,482 --> 01:11:18,206
and there's this character
who develops this parasite.

1530
01:11:18,206 --> 01:11:21,862
When it reproduces,
it will cast millions

1531
01:11:21,862 --> 01:11:24,758
of microscopic
spores into the air.

1532
01:11:24,758 --> 01:11:26,758
It grows over the
course of the film,

1533
01:11:26,758 --> 01:11:28,241
and it gets into people,

1534
01:11:28,241 --> 01:11:30,724
and absorbs them from within,

1535
01:11:30,724 --> 01:11:32,344
and eventually it
turns into this

1536
01:11:32,344 --> 01:11:34,413
big toothy creature.

1537
01:11:40,241 --> 01:11:43,000
Stan Winston, Stan
did my very first movie

1538
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,068
in the early 70s called
"Mansion of the Doom",

1539
01:11:45,068 --> 01:11:46,931
and later on did "Parasite".

1540
01:11:46,931 --> 01:11:48,689
And Stan became
super successful,

1541
01:11:48,689 --> 01:11:51,000
and I couldn't afford him,
even though we stayed close

1542
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,068
til almost the end of his
life, which was way too soon.

1543
01:11:55,620 --> 01:11:58,379
"Parasite" was one of the
first 3D movies in 20 years.

1544
01:11:58,379 --> 01:12:01,689
It did really well,
relative to a small movie.

1545
01:12:01,689 --> 01:12:04,310
I was hooked with
the gimmickry of 3D.

1546
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:06,000
Why was that cool for a while?

1547
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,724
Well, 'cause it was
another dimension,

1548
01:12:07,724 --> 01:12:09,517
and it was something you
couldn't really see at home.

1549
01:12:09,517 --> 01:12:12,103
Unless there's trickery or
stuff that comes at you,

1550
01:12:12,103 --> 01:12:14,689
and you're having fun
with the three dimensions,

1551
01:12:14,689 --> 01:12:16,034
to me it's not worth it.

1552
01:12:19,172 --> 01:12:21,620
I remember it being
pretty schlocky,

1553
01:12:21,620 --> 01:12:23,896
but the parasite effects
were pretty cool,

1554
01:12:23,896 --> 01:12:25,758
and the 3D was pretty cool.

1555
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,310
In terms of pantheon of
Stan Winston projects,

1556
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:40,689
it's not the one he's
most proud of.

1557
01:12:47,620 --> 01:12:49,103
"Madman".

1558
01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:50,413
There is no escape.

1559
01:12:53,896 --> 01:12:56,206
I really love "Madman".

1560
01:12:56,206 --> 01:12:58,862
He was a farmer
with this family,

1561
01:12:58,862 --> 01:13:00,448
wife and two children.

1562
01:13:00,448 --> 01:13:02,103
He was an evil man.

1563
01:13:02,103 --> 01:13:04,896
I have a "Madman"
poster on my wall.

1564
01:13:04,896 --> 01:13:06,517
He walked into his bedroom

1565
01:13:06,517 --> 01:13:10,482
with an ax in his hand and
chopped his sleeping wife.

1566
01:13:10,482 --> 01:13:12,275
It was kind of a
"Sleepaway Camp" movie,

1567
01:13:12,275 --> 01:13:15,103
that I think fell under
the radar a little bit.

1568
01:13:15,103 --> 01:13:18,068
His name is Mars.

1569
01:13:18,068 --> 01:13:19,068
Madman Mars.

1570
01:13:21,137 --> 01:13:23,689
Oh no, Madman Mars
is coming upon us

1571
01:13:23,689 --> 01:13:25,965
at the campsite, but
it was just like,

1572
01:13:25,965 --> 01:13:28,896
you loved it for the
feel, the energy,

1573
01:13:28,896 --> 01:13:30,344
the New York vibe.

1574
01:13:30,344 --> 01:13:31,275
You know, Betsy.

1575
01:13:31,275 --> 01:13:33,310
I don't have many women friends,

1576
01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:35,586
and I think you're one of them.

1577
01:13:35,586 --> 01:13:36,827
Oh, I am.

1578
01:13:36,827 --> 01:13:38,448
Hey, give me your
number in the city.

1579
01:13:38,448 --> 01:13:40,448
It's like,
they're in the woods!

1580
01:13:40,448 --> 01:13:41,827
They're gonna get killed!

1581
01:13:41,827 --> 01:13:44,448
You just love that
the Madman was coming,

1582
01:13:44,448 --> 01:13:47,000
and you didn't know
who he was gonna kill.

1583
01:13:51,758 --> 01:13:53,862
We used to watch
it all the time.

1584
01:13:53,862 --> 01:13:55,344
My friends would laugh.

1585
01:13:55,344 --> 01:13:57,034
Most of them were
giggling, like ooh!

1586
01:13:57,034 --> 01:13:57,862
You know.

1587
01:13:57,862 --> 01:13:59,275
I couldn't even eat.

1588
01:14:00,206 --> 01:14:01,689
And the blood, and the effects.

1589
01:14:01,689 --> 01:14:04,827
It just all looked so
real to me, and scared me.

1590
01:14:08,965 --> 01:14:13,034
"Madman" always looked like
a big furry suit to me.

1591
01:14:13,034 --> 01:14:16,344
He was in a shadow, but
he looked kind of furry.

1592
01:14:16,344 --> 01:14:18,206
And I was like oh,
he's kinda cute.

1593
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,586
I'm friends with Gary Sales.

1594
01:14:23,586 --> 01:14:26,103
He was really taken by surprise

1595
01:14:26,103 --> 01:14:27,655
with the success of the film.

1596
01:14:29,034 --> 01:14:30,034
With a lot of the 80s films,

1597
01:14:30,034 --> 01:14:33,310
there were no real boundaries.

1598
01:14:33,310 --> 01:14:36,379
They were just done, like
let's push the envelope.

1599
01:14:40,827 --> 01:14:44,000
Let's have fun, not to
intentionally hurt anyone,

1600
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,103
but just because
we're batshit crazy,

1601
01:14:46,103 --> 01:14:47,620
and we're making a horror movie,

1602
01:14:47,620 --> 01:14:50,137
and I think movies like
"Madman" just went for it.

1603
01:14:50,137 --> 01:14:52,137
They were like,
let's just kind of,

1604
01:14:52,137 --> 01:14:53,620
you know, get a monster.

1605
01:14:53,620 --> 01:14:55,827
Have him running around
killing people, and woo-hoo!

1606
01:14:55,827 --> 01:15:00,000
And it's just simple,
but so fantastic.

1607
01:15:01,413 --> 01:15:04,206
It's like silly and
great, all tied into one.

1608
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,620
Fans of gothic horror

1609
01:15:17,620 --> 01:15:19,793
will not be disappointed.

1610
01:15:22,827 --> 01:15:25,862
Jackie Karen inherits
this rural estate,

1611
01:15:25,862 --> 01:15:27,413
and on the rural estate
is a retirement home

1612
01:15:27,413 --> 01:15:29,724
full of elderly patients,

1613
01:15:29,724 --> 01:15:31,931
and there are mysterious
deaths happening.

1614
01:15:34,413 --> 01:15:35,931
Bit of a murder
mystery, because someone

1615
01:15:35,931 --> 01:15:36,827
is committing these crimes,

1616
01:15:36,827 --> 01:15:38,034
and you're not sure who

1617
01:15:38,034 --> 01:15:40,103
among these cast of
characters it is.

1618
01:15:42,206 --> 01:15:43,413
Are there ghosts?

1619
01:15:43,413 --> 01:15:45,379
Are there supernatural
elements at play?

1620
01:15:45,379 --> 01:15:48,758
Because it feels like
you're in this dream.

1621
01:15:53,379 --> 01:15:56,275
It's kind of that moment
between asleep and awake.

1622
01:16:00,482 --> 01:16:03,206
Jackie discovers her mother's
childhood diary in the film.

1623
01:16:04,344 --> 01:16:07,034
Lights going on and off,

1624
01:16:07,034 --> 01:16:08,586
taps left running.

1625
01:16:08,586 --> 01:16:10,724
It comes to pass that
the things in the diary

1626
01:16:10,724 --> 01:16:13,103
start to happen to her
within the plot of the film,

1627
01:16:13,103 --> 01:16:15,137
which is all leading
up to this revelation

1628
01:16:15,137 --> 01:16:17,689
that her late aunt
might not be as late

1629
01:16:17,689 --> 01:16:19,793
as she was led to believe.

1630
01:16:19,793 --> 01:16:21,379
What's that?

1631
01:16:21,379 --> 01:16:22,448
Didn't die.

1632
01:16:23,517 --> 01:16:25,517
There are some
horrific images in this.

1633
01:16:25,517 --> 01:16:28,000
It's a man drowned
in the bathtub.

1634
01:16:31,758 --> 01:16:33,689
And he's just like bloated.

1635
01:16:33,689 --> 01:16:35,758
It's tragic, but
it's also very scary.

1636
01:16:35,758 --> 01:16:38,000
Something that just like
sticks in your mind.

1637
01:16:42,827 --> 01:16:44,206
"Next of Kin" was
written and directed

1638
01:16:44,206 --> 01:16:46,137
by Tony Williams.

1639
01:16:46,137 --> 01:16:49,137
In this film, you can
see a lot of horror DNA.

1640
01:16:49,137 --> 01:16:50,241
You can see some Clouzot,

1641
01:16:50,241 --> 01:16:51,482
you see "Les
Diabolique" in there.

1642
01:16:51,482 --> 01:16:53,689
You can see some Fulci in there.

1643
01:16:53,689 --> 01:16:56,137
Any time somebody gets
it in the eyeballs.

1644
01:16:56,137 --> 01:16:57,689
Linda!

1645
01:17:01,620 --> 01:17:02,862
Oh, it's rest home horror,

1646
01:17:02,862 --> 01:17:04,689
which is very cool,
but it's very gothic,

1647
01:17:04,689 --> 01:17:07,034
and it's what we might call
today slow burn horror.

1648
01:17:07,034 --> 01:17:12,000
It's got that nice Australian
unhinged energy to it.

1649
01:17:18,620 --> 01:17:19,793
Australian horror from the 80s

1650
01:17:19,793 --> 01:17:21,000
doesn't get a lot of love,

1651
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,793
but when there's a
nice example of it,

1652
01:17:23,793 --> 01:17:25,965
like "Next of Kin",
it's fun to revisit.

1653
01:17:38,448 --> 01:17:40,551
"Amityville Horror",
big boogeyman story

1654
01:17:40,551 --> 01:17:42,034
on the east coast in the 70s.

1655
01:17:42,034 --> 01:17:46,206
True crime, kid shotguns his
parents, and his siblings,

1656
01:17:46,206 --> 01:17:49,034
and he claims demonic
possession was part of it.

1657
01:17:49,034 --> 01:17:51,310
It gets turned into a book.

1658
01:17:51,310 --> 01:17:52,793
It eventually gets
made into a movie

1659
01:17:52,793 --> 01:17:54,448
with James Brolin
and Margot Kidder.

1660
01:17:54,448 --> 01:17:57,965
To this day you see those
windows, "Amityville Horror".

1661
01:17:57,965 --> 01:17:59,517
Three years later,
they're making

1662
01:17:59,517 --> 01:18:01,275
"Amityville 2: The Possession",

1663
01:18:01,275 --> 01:18:05,068
which is essentially
the true story

1664
01:18:05,068 --> 01:18:07,344
of the kid killing his family.

1665
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,344
- "Amityville
-The Possession".

1666
01:18:13,344 --> 01:18:15,241
"Amityville: The Possession".

1667
01:18:15,241 --> 01:18:17,448
It has to do with possession,

1668
01:18:17,448 --> 01:18:19,275
but mainly it's about incest.

1669
01:18:20,379 --> 01:18:21,827
Take off your nightgown.

1670
01:18:22,862 --> 01:18:24,344
What?

1671
01:18:24,344 --> 01:18:26,793
This prequel is loosely
based on the DeFeo murders,

1672
01:18:26,793 --> 01:18:28,793
but the names have been changed.

1673
01:18:29,931 --> 01:18:31,103
Everything seems quite idyllic.

1674
01:18:31,103 --> 01:18:32,551
It's a nice little
lovely family,

1675
01:18:32,551 --> 01:18:33,689
until it's not.

1676
01:18:33,689 --> 01:18:35,137
The dad's a fucking asshole.

1677
01:18:35,137 --> 01:18:37,827
He's abusive to
everybody in the family.

1678
01:18:37,827 --> 01:18:39,103
- Think you're funny?
- What are you doing?

1679
01:18:39,103 --> 01:18:40,241
Huh?

1680
01:18:40,241 --> 01:18:41,758
You can't hit him-

1681
01:18:41,758 --> 01:18:45,862
Burt Young is maybe the
scuzziest dad in horror.

1682
01:18:46,793 --> 01:18:48,655
Please, don't hit that child.

1683
01:18:50,137 --> 01:18:51,655
Listen, this isn't your
business, you hear that?

1684
01:18:51,655 --> 01:18:53,689
We've got a teenage son
and a teenage daughter.

1685
01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:57,206
They've got a real weird
dynamic right off the get-go,

1686
01:18:57,206 --> 01:18:59,724
and it's one of those things
where you're questioning,

1687
01:18:59,724 --> 01:19:01,172
is it supposed to be like that?

1688
01:19:01,172 --> 01:19:02,344
Maybe the actors
were just having

1689
01:19:02,344 --> 01:19:03,965
a little too much chemistry

1690
01:19:03,965 --> 01:19:05,310
for brother and sister.

1691
01:19:06,482 --> 01:19:08,448
Until the brother
gets possessed,

1692
01:19:08,448 --> 01:19:10,172
and then gets it
on with his sister,

1693
01:19:10,172 --> 01:19:12,206
who is not possessed,
so I don't really know

1694
01:19:12,206 --> 01:19:13,620
what her excuse was.

1695
01:19:15,448 --> 01:19:17,620
Playing the young
daughter is Diane Franklin

1696
01:19:17,620 --> 01:19:20,103
from "Last American
Virgin", "Better Off Dead",

1697
01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:22,758
real apple pie, America's
sweetheart type stuff.

1698
01:19:22,758 --> 01:19:25,206
And if you wanna watch her
have sex with her brother,

1699
01:19:25,206 --> 01:19:27,655
"Amityville II" is
the film for you.

1700
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:31,793
This skin-crawling incest
that happens in the film

1701
01:19:31,793 --> 01:19:34,413
was actually cut down from
what was in the original cut,

1702
01:19:34,413 --> 01:19:36,103
and it was apparently
a lot more graphic.

1703
01:19:36,103 --> 01:19:37,620
"Amityville II:
The Possession"

1704
01:19:37,620 --> 01:19:41,758
was directed by Italian
director, Damiano Damiani.

1705
01:19:41,758 --> 01:19:43,724
Written by Tommy Lee Wallace.

1706
01:19:43,724 --> 01:19:47,241
Best known for "Halloween
3: Season of the Witch".

1707
01:19:47,241 --> 01:19:49,965
And he co-wrote this
with Dardano Sacchetti

1708
01:19:49,965 --> 01:19:53,000
who often worked
with Lucio Fulci.

1709
01:19:54,896 --> 01:19:58,000
This one actually does have
really wonderful effects.

1710
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,620
I mean, it's just
like 80s to the core.

1711
01:20:00,620 --> 01:20:02,137
Bladder effects,
like as the brother

1712
01:20:02,137 --> 01:20:04,862
is becoming more
and more possessed,

1713
01:20:04,862 --> 01:20:08,000
neck is just pulsing, or
his head will be pulsing.

1714
01:20:10,758 --> 01:20:14,275
My favorite moment in
"Amityville II: The Possession",

1715
01:20:14,275 --> 01:20:15,655
there's this part
where the camera

1716
01:20:15,655 --> 01:20:17,275
kind of goes overhead,
when he's like,

1717
01:20:17,275 --> 01:20:21,551
I guess the demon is
really going into his body.

1718
01:20:23,896 --> 01:20:26,310
"Amityville: The
Possession", and "Amityville"

1719
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:30,965
the original first film are
two totally separate entities.

1720
01:20:30,965 --> 01:20:32,758
The tone is not the same.

1721
01:20:32,758 --> 01:20:35,724
The first one is just
straight up scary.

1722
01:20:35,724 --> 01:20:38,379
The second one has
kinds of all these weird

1723
01:20:38,379 --> 01:20:39,655
other tones in it.

1724
01:20:41,620 --> 01:20:43,034
You wanted it!

1725
01:20:43,034 --> 01:20:45,344
You feel very uncomfortable
for different reasons.

1726
01:20:46,275 --> 01:20:47,241
Look at them.

1727
01:20:47,241 --> 01:20:49,413
They're pathetic animals.

1728
01:20:49,413 --> 01:20:51,448
They'd be better off
if you killed them.

1729
01:20:52,655 --> 01:20:53,655
The second one is
just like fuck it,

1730
01:20:53,655 --> 01:20:54,896
let's go off the rails.

1731
01:20:54,896 --> 01:20:56,689
We're gonna loosely
use this title,

1732
01:20:56,689 --> 01:21:00,103
and then just go way off
into left field over here.

1733
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,413
And it's for that extra
bit of sickening material,

1734
01:21:06,413 --> 01:21:08,034
and there's lots of
it in this picture,

1735
01:21:08,034 --> 01:21:10,137
that's the reason that
"Amityville II: The Possession"

1736
01:21:10,137 --> 01:21:13,000
makes my list as one of the
worst films of the year.

1737
01:21:18,206 --> 01:21:21,551
That no one
would ever forget the girls

1738
01:21:23,655 --> 01:21:26,517
in "The House On Sorority Row".

1739
01:21:26,517 --> 01:21:31,344
That mystical world of the
sorority fraternity culture,

1740
01:21:31,344 --> 01:21:33,517
in the 80s, all films
were pointing us

1741
01:21:33,517 --> 01:21:34,758
towards that's
where you're going.

1742
01:21:34,758 --> 01:21:36,655
If it's not "Revenge
of the Nerds",

1743
01:21:36,655 --> 01:21:38,586
it's "The House
on Sorority Row".

1744
01:21:38,586 --> 01:21:39,482
I wanna thank
you for helping me

1745
01:21:39,482 --> 01:21:41,655
become what I am today.

1746
01:21:42,586 --> 01:21:45,172
Wasted.

1747
01:21:46,482 --> 01:21:48,275
And then it's like,
what crazy debauchery

1748
01:21:48,275 --> 01:21:49,793
is gonna happen within the walls

1749
01:21:49,793 --> 01:21:51,172
of that sorority house?

1750
01:21:51,172 --> 01:21:52,827
And how will we be punished

1751
01:21:52,827 --> 01:21:55,103
for indulging in
that debauchery?

1752
01:21:59,655 --> 01:22:01,000
You filth!

1753
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,551
Evil house mother.

1754
01:22:03,551 --> 01:22:07,034
The house mother to
end all house mothers.

1755
01:22:07,965 --> 01:22:10,586
Is killed accidentally

1756
01:22:10,586 --> 01:22:13,448
by sorority girls,

1757
01:22:13,448 --> 01:22:16,344
and revenge ensues.

1758
01:22:20,931 --> 01:22:24,655
I got my start "House
on Sorority Row".

1759
01:22:24,655 --> 01:22:28,344
I'd just come out
of theater school.

1760
01:22:28,344 --> 01:22:30,620
I think we got paid $50 a day.

1761
01:22:30,620 --> 01:22:31,862
We worked really hard, you know.

1762
01:22:31,862 --> 01:22:34,275
We shot night for
night for weeks.

1763
01:22:35,896 --> 01:22:38,689
So we were like
zombies during the day.

1764
01:22:38,689 --> 01:22:40,793
The director, he
kept a firm hand

1765
01:22:40,793 --> 01:22:44,586
without ever being an
asshole, to be honest.

1766
01:22:44,586 --> 01:22:47,000
Which is saying a lot
for a first endeavor.

1767
01:22:51,206 --> 01:22:53,172
Everyone else is
wearing a cute frock,

1768
01:22:53,172 --> 01:22:55,862
and I'm wearing these
ugly beige pants

1769
01:22:55,862 --> 01:22:58,103
and this sweater, and
I had to run around

1770
01:22:58,103 --> 01:23:01,344
in that stupid outfit,
and put it on everyday.

1771
01:23:01,344 --> 01:23:04,137
And I did not feel
like I looked terrific.

1772
01:23:04,137 --> 01:23:05,000
She's alive.

1773
01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:08,000
We put her back in the pool,

1774
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,724
and she was still alive!

1775
01:23:09,724 --> 01:23:12,000
He also colored my hair brown,

1776
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,827
because of course, smart
good girls have brown hair.

1777
01:23:14,827 --> 01:23:18,689
Me being the good girl, the
one who stays in the house

1778
01:23:18,689 --> 01:23:21,034
while her friends are being
murdered left and right.

1779
01:23:21,034 --> 01:23:22,586
That always makes me giggle.

1780
01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:29,620
Would you not run away?

1781
01:23:29,620 --> 01:23:31,896
Are you gonna go roaming
around in this house

1782
01:23:31,896 --> 01:23:33,448
looking for clues?

1783
01:23:33,448 --> 01:23:37,000
But I was drugged, so I
do have that to defend me.

1784
01:23:38,103 --> 01:23:39,689
Just a mild sedative.

1785
01:23:39,689 --> 01:23:41,655
It definitely had a style

1786
01:23:41,655 --> 01:23:44,517
that a lot of low budget
films really don't have.

1787
01:23:50,655 --> 01:23:52,931
"The House on Sorority
Row" ended up being

1788
01:23:52,931 --> 01:23:54,758
one of those movies that became

1789
01:23:54,758 --> 01:23:56,586
a bit of a cult fan favorite.

1790
01:24:00,413 --> 01:24:03,586
As much as I like to say it's
all because it's great film,

1791
01:24:03,586 --> 01:24:05,965
I think some of it
is, you know, fun

1792
01:24:05,965 --> 01:24:08,068
in that it's a little
bit over the top,

1793
01:24:08,068 --> 01:24:11,344
and when you think that's part
of the appeal of the genre.

1794
01:24:14,413 --> 01:24:16,310
I never thought I'd
be talking about it.

1795
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:17,689
You know, I'm 63.

1796
01:24:17,689 --> 01:24:21,172
I was 23.

1797
01:24:21,172 --> 01:24:24,137
Wow.

1798
01:24:24,137 --> 01:24:26,724
But I have no
regrets whatsoever.

1799
01:24:26,724 --> 01:24:28,000
It was fun.

1800
01:24:43,413 --> 01:24:46,275
As an actor watching films,

1801
01:24:46,275 --> 01:24:49,413
I certainly dial
into performances.

1802
01:24:49,413 --> 01:24:53,000
I sort of learned
my craft by doing.

1803
01:24:54,448 --> 01:24:55,896
I had taken dance lessons,

1804
01:24:55,896 --> 01:24:58,758
and so I started
out doing theater.

1805
01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:02,551
♪ Lady Godiva

1806
01:25:02,551 --> 01:25:05,551
The first television
project I did was Maude.

1807
01:25:05,551 --> 01:25:08,620
And it was a four camera sitcom

1808
01:25:08,620 --> 01:25:10,241
that we filmed like a play.

1809
01:25:10,241 --> 01:25:12,241
So stop asking
who I was out with,

1810
01:25:12,241 --> 01:25:13,344
what we had for dinner,

1811
01:25:13,344 --> 01:25:15,068
and did we go all the way.

1812
01:25:17,965 --> 01:25:22,000
And then my next
real film education

1813
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,517
came when I did
"Someone's Watching Me"

1814
01:25:24,517 --> 01:25:26,137
for John Carpenter.

1815
01:25:26,137 --> 01:25:30,000
I played, I believe,
the first lesbian woman

1816
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,241
in a television film.

1817
01:25:31,241 --> 01:25:33,241
And he had written
a fantastic scene

1818
01:25:33,241 --> 01:25:37,172
in which her
sexuality is revealed.

1819
01:25:37,172 --> 01:25:38,000
Who's he?

1820
01:25:40,172 --> 01:25:41,000
She.

1821
01:25:42,137 --> 01:25:43,793
And we did it, and
John came up to me

1822
01:25:43,793 --> 01:25:45,931
and he said that was
great, that was perfect.

1823
01:25:45,931 --> 01:25:47,068
Do less.

1824
01:25:47,068 --> 01:25:47,896
Don't worry.

1825
01:25:47,896 --> 01:25:48,724
You're not my type.

1826
01:25:49,758 --> 01:25:51,172
I'm not worried.

1827
01:25:51,172 --> 01:25:54,034
And it was the proverbial
light bulb going off.

1828
01:25:54,034 --> 01:25:56,172
Oh, because it's film,

1829
01:25:56,172 --> 01:25:58,103
because it's not theater.

1830
01:25:58,103 --> 01:25:59,517
Do less.

1831
01:25:59,517 --> 01:26:02,137
Now, especially something
like "Creepshow",

1832
01:26:02,137 --> 01:26:03,931
which was George Romero,

1833
01:26:03,931 --> 01:26:06,931
which was such an
outrageous character,

1834
01:26:06,931 --> 01:26:09,931
which was George saying
no, you can be bigger!

1835
01:26:09,931 --> 01:26:11,724
You can be bigger,
you can be bigger.

1836
01:26:11,724 --> 01:26:13,310
That was like, wait a
minute, wait a minute.

1837
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:17,000
I just spent the last three
years learning to do less.

1838
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,034
I mean, where would you be
without me to take care of you?

1839
01:26:20,034 --> 01:26:23,551
The important thing about
approaching a character

1840
01:26:23,551 --> 01:26:26,551
like Billy in "Creepshow",
who everybody will watch

1841
01:26:26,551 --> 01:26:29,275
the movie and say oh,
she's just a bitch.

1842
01:26:29,275 --> 01:26:31,137
When was the last time
you got it up, Henry?

1843
01:26:31,137 --> 01:26:32,620
Huh?

1844
01:26:32,620 --> 01:26:34,517
When was the last time
you were a man in our bed?

1845
01:26:34,517 --> 01:26:36,517
She's the most horrible,
and she needed to be

1846
01:26:36,517 --> 01:26:39,620
so that everybody
would cheer when Henry

1847
01:26:39,620 --> 01:26:41,241
arranged for her demise.

1848
01:26:41,241 --> 01:26:42,379
Don't you ever touch me again!

1849
01:26:48,103 --> 01:26:51,206
As an actor, you
don't play I'm a bitch.

1850
01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:54,517
You explore whatever
it is that made her

1851
01:26:54,517 --> 01:26:55,517
the way she was.

1852
01:26:55,517 --> 01:26:58,034
She's incredibly disappointed

1853
01:26:58,034 --> 01:27:00,137
in the way her life turned out.

1854
01:27:00,137 --> 01:27:02,482
Henry, goddammit!

1855
01:27:02,482 --> 01:27:04,000
How many times have I told you

1856
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,551
to lock the goddam door?

1857
01:27:05,551 --> 01:27:07,068
You have to
understand what it is

1858
01:27:07,068 --> 01:27:09,137
that drives the behavior.

1859
01:27:09,137 --> 01:27:11,241
At least Henry has
me to take care of him,

1860
01:27:11,241 --> 01:27:12,517
don't you, dear?

1861
01:27:12,517 --> 01:27:14,000
I didn't see a lot
of films growing up,

1862
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,275
but I do remember something
called "Donovan's Brain".

1863
01:27:17,275 --> 01:27:19,931
I don't know that I had
ever seen a horror film

1864
01:27:19,931 --> 01:27:23,620
besides "Donovan's Brain",
until John invited me

1865
01:27:23,620 --> 01:27:26,206
to the screening of "Halloween".

1866
01:27:27,586 --> 01:27:31,034
I had just done The Tonight
Show earlier that day,

1867
01:27:31,034 --> 01:27:33,724
and announced on Johnny Carson

1868
01:27:33,724 --> 01:27:36,344
that John and I were engaged.

1869
01:27:36,344 --> 01:27:40,000
And then I went to the
screening of "Halloween".

1870
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,931
By the end of that film,
I suspect that he was

1871
01:27:42,931 --> 01:27:45,689
black and blue, because
I kept going, oh my god!

1872
01:27:45,689 --> 01:27:46,517
Oh my god!

1873
01:27:46,517 --> 01:27:48,103
I was like, oh, oh!

1874
01:27:48,103 --> 01:27:49,000
Oh my, oh!

1875
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,413
You know?

1876
01:27:51,413 --> 01:27:54,068
It's the first horror
film I'd ever seen.

1877
01:27:55,206 --> 01:27:57,344
It was at that point
that Tom Atkins,

1878
01:27:57,344 --> 01:27:58,689
who is also at the screening,

1879
01:27:58,689 --> 01:28:00,931
leaned over to me and said Addy,

1880
01:28:00,931 --> 01:28:02,931
I'm not sure you
should marry this guy.

1881
01:28:02,931 --> 01:28:05,310
We cannot let
Adrienne marry this guy.

1882
01:28:05,310 --> 01:28:07,448
There's something
wrong with him.

1883
01:28:07,448 --> 01:28:09,275
He makes this kind of movie.

1884
01:28:09,275 --> 01:28:10,551
But she married him,

1885
01:28:10,551 --> 01:28:13,482
and they had a lovely
child together, Cody.

1886
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:16,758
Well, stay up with me.

1887
01:28:16,758 --> 01:28:19,931
And I'll figure out some
way to keep you occupied.

1888
01:28:19,931 --> 01:28:23,793
When John first had me read
the script for "The Fog",

1889
01:28:23,793 --> 01:28:26,689
I was pretty involved
in social issues.

1890
01:28:26,689 --> 01:28:28,413
"Coming Home" was a huge hit,

1891
01:28:28,413 --> 01:28:31,758
and "The China Syndrome"
was a huge hit.

1892
01:28:31,758 --> 01:28:34,137
And I read it, and it was like,

1893
01:28:34,137 --> 01:28:37,310
uh, this is a horror film.

1894
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,172
This is not about
women's rights.

1895
01:28:43,172 --> 01:28:44,931
It's not about abortion.

1896
01:28:44,931 --> 01:28:47,275
But, I mean, I loved the
character and everything,

1897
01:28:47,275 --> 01:28:50,482
and of course, since,
it's one of the things

1898
01:28:50,482 --> 01:28:53,344
that I am most proud of doing.

1899
01:28:58,137 --> 01:29:01,379
The one piece of merchandise
that I really love,

1900
01:29:01,379 --> 01:29:03,620
"The Fog" action figure.

1901
01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:06,620
I think that's a marvelous
piece of merchandising.

1902
01:29:09,379 --> 01:29:10,931
None of us knew in the 80s

1903
01:29:10,931 --> 01:29:13,000
that the work we were doing,

1904
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,068
"Escape From New York", or
"The Fog", or "Creepshow',

1905
01:29:16,068 --> 01:29:20,862
would be as viable today.

1906
01:29:22,206 --> 01:29:24,689
The career of an
actor, when it works,

1907
01:29:25,586 --> 01:29:26,965
is a wonderful career.

1908
01:29:43,275 --> 01:29:44,448
"Xtro".

1909
01:29:44,448 --> 01:29:47,379
Some extraterrestrials
aren't friendly.

1910
01:29:47,379 --> 01:29:48,413
From New Line Cinema.

1911
01:29:48,413 --> 01:29:49,896
Rated R.

1912
01:29:49,896 --> 01:29:51,448
Roger begins with a
horror film called "Xtro".

1913
01:29:51,448 --> 01:29:52,931
That's X-T-R-O.

1914
01:29:52,931 --> 01:29:55,206
Remember that spelling,
remember that name.

1915
01:29:55,206 --> 01:29:59,000
So, "Xtro" is about an
alien that kills people,

1916
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,482
but it's also the cliche
of the disturbed kid

1917
01:30:02,482 --> 01:30:06,172
with the powers, and
evil clowns, too.

1918
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,758
It's kind of everything.

1919
01:30:16,551 --> 01:30:19,413
I'd say it's very confusing

1920
01:30:19,413 --> 01:30:21,931
slightly surrealistic movie,

1921
01:30:21,931 --> 01:30:24,551
and I'm not really
sure what it's about.

1922
01:30:25,793 --> 01:30:27,931
So a father gets
abducted by aliens.

1923
01:30:27,931 --> 01:30:30,310
The wife thinks that he
ran off with another woman.

1924
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:32,310
The alien impregnates somebody.

1925
01:30:35,448 --> 01:30:39,103
Then the woman gives
birth to a human child,

1926
01:30:39,103 --> 01:30:41,000
and it turns out
to be the father,

1927
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,965
who's been abducted and reborn.

1928
01:30:44,137 --> 01:30:47,137
I'm told that it's
about abandonment.

1929
01:30:47,137 --> 01:30:50,344
Some very smart
critic told me that.

1930
01:30:50,344 --> 01:30:53,344
And I just hung onto that
word every since then.

1931
01:30:53,344 --> 01:30:56,000
I can't remember
a thing until today.

1932
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,551
I saw Tony in the streets, so-

1933
01:30:57,551 --> 01:30:59,068
You want to come home.

1934
01:30:59,068 --> 01:31:00,275
Like it was.

1935
01:31:00,275 --> 01:31:02,586
I think what makes
marketable film

1936
01:31:02,586 --> 01:31:04,413
of any kind is being unusual.

1937
01:31:05,586 --> 01:31:07,344
Bob Shaye, who's the
head of New Line,

1938
01:31:07,344 --> 01:31:09,000
and who started New Line,

1939
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,586
I think Bob Shaye wanted
to have his own "Phantasm".

1940
01:31:12,586 --> 01:31:14,137
We just wanted to shock people,

1941
01:31:14,137 --> 01:31:15,517
and make our little horror film,

1942
01:31:15,517 --> 01:31:17,620
and we wanted to have
good acting and so on,

1943
01:31:17,620 --> 01:31:19,758
so you've got this
rather uneasy business,

1944
01:31:19,758 --> 01:31:22,206
between all these little
Shakespearean actors,

1945
01:31:22,206 --> 01:31:25,379
and all this nonsense
that they've got to talk.

1946
01:31:25,379 --> 01:31:27,275
You'll be able to
do lots of things.

1947
01:31:28,241 --> 01:31:29,655
Don't be frightened.

1948
01:31:29,655 --> 01:31:30,896
Use it when you need it.

1949
01:31:30,896 --> 01:31:32,137
The best part in "Xtro",

1950
01:31:32,137 --> 01:31:33,896
there's this creepy alien effect

1951
01:31:33,896 --> 01:31:35,724
where it's a person
doing one of those

1952
01:31:35,724 --> 01:31:37,344
backwards spider walks.

1953
01:31:37,344 --> 01:31:39,275
The prosthetic is
put on backwards,

1954
01:31:39,275 --> 01:31:41,172
so it looks very unsettling.

1955
01:31:42,758 --> 01:31:45,896
He's walking backwards
with his back to the ground

1956
01:31:45,896 --> 01:31:48,620
on all fours, but with
his stomach sticking up

1957
01:31:48,620 --> 01:31:52,482
to the sky, and the head of
the creature on backwards,

1958
01:31:52,482 --> 01:31:54,206
which was absolute
misery for him,

1959
01:31:54,206 --> 01:31:56,482
because it was cold,
and we were having him

1960
01:31:56,482 --> 01:31:58,724
walking through swamps,
and things like that.

1961
01:32:03,068 --> 01:32:05,000
A civilization develops
enough intelligence

1962
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,586
to come all the way to
Earth from another star,

1963
01:32:07,586 --> 01:32:08,965
and then they don't
have enough sense

1964
01:32:08,965 --> 01:32:10,275
to not stand in the
middle of the road

1965
01:32:10,275 --> 01:32:11,793
when a car is coming.

1966
01:32:11,793 --> 01:32:13,655
When it came to
this birth scene,

1967
01:32:13,655 --> 01:32:15,482
which, I think nobody understood

1968
01:32:15,482 --> 01:32:18,241
except me and the
special effects guys.

1969
01:32:18,241 --> 01:32:20,034
We had to have a thing
with the false floor,

1970
01:32:20,034 --> 01:32:22,586
and all this sort of thing,
and trap doors, and whatnot.

1971
01:32:22,586 --> 01:32:24,793
We did a lot of it in one take.

1972
01:32:24,793 --> 01:32:27,034
As much of it as we
could in one take.

1973
01:32:27,034 --> 01:32:29,586
All sorts of nasty kind
of afterbirth stuff.

1974
01:32:29,586 --> 01:32:31,620
And then we had
the umbilical cord,

1975
01:32:31,620 --> 01:32:34,310
that we made out of
spaghetti, actually.

1976
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:35,896
And he had to bite through that.

1977
01:32:35,896 --> 01:32:38,000
We were astonished we got it.

1978
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,931
No, I wasn't a bit worried
about it going too far.

1979
01:32:39,931 --> 01:32:42,310
I was worried about it
not going far enough.

1980
01:32:44,517 --> 01:32:47,862
Bob, god bless him, was
always more for having

1981
01:32:47,862 --> 01:32:49,758
more weird things going on.

1982
01:32:49,758 --> 01:32:51,689
He said hey, you gotta
have a panther in there,

1983
01:32:51,689 --> 01:32:52,724
jumping out at someone.

1984
01:32:52,724 --> 01:32:53,689
Something like that.

1985
01:32:53,689 --> 01:32:55,000
He wanted his panther.

1986
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,758
And he got it.

1987
01:33:02,517 --> 01:33:04,137
It's as if they're
so pretentious

1988
01:33:04,137 --> 01:33:05,379
that they're trying
to make some kind of

1989
01:33:05,379 --> 01:33:07,068
a philosophical statement.

1990
01:33:07,068 --> 01:33:07,965
It was garbage.

1991
01:33:07,965 --> 01:33:08,896
It was offensive.

1992
01:33:08,896 --> 01:33:10,206
Garbage is the operative word.

1993
01:33:10,206 --> 01:33:12,344
With little films like these,

1994
01:33:12,344 --> 01:33:14,793
the audience knows
it's a low budget film.

1995
01:33:14,793 --> 01:33:16,000
They know right away.

1996
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,034
They can sniff it
from the first frame.

1997
01:33:18,034 --> 01:33:20,517
And they tend to
be more forgiving.

1998
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,931
That was just at the
start of home video.

1999
01:33:27,931 --> 01:33:31,000
And I remember the first
week that we came out,

2000
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,586
we beat "Poltergeist",
if you can believe that,

2001
01:33:33,586 --> 01:33:35,793
in the VHS ratings.

2002
01:33:40,172 --> 01:33:43,103
It grew legs, and
it just ran off.

2003
01:33:43,103 --> 01:33:46,482
It absolutely killed in
the home video market.

2004
01:33:46,482 --> 01:33:47,793
Amazing.

2005
01:33:58,551 --> 01:34:00,034
"Curtains".

2006
01:34:00,034 --> 01:34:02,000
The ultimate nightmare.

2007
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,517
Canadian horror movie.

2008
01:34:03,517 --> 01:34:05,517
When you come from Canada,
you don't really realize

2009
01:34:05,517 --> 01:34:06,655
that the movies are from Canada.

2010
01:34:06,655 --> 01:34:07,931
Like Rush.

2011
01:34:07,931 --> 01:34:09,068
You don't think of it
as Canada's best band.

2012
01:34:09,068 --> 01:34:10,965
They're just a great band.

2013
01:34:10,965 --> 01:34:12,034
And what's the difference?

2014
01:34:12,034 --> 01:34:14,310
I mean, they're more friendly?

2015
01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:16,448
It kind of just blends in
with the American ones.

2016
01:34:18,896 --> 01:34:21,517
"Curtains" is about
a bunch of actresses

2017
01:34:21,517 --> 01:34:24,517
who go to a director's mansion
to audition for a role.

2018
01:34:24,517 --> 01:34:25,896
Red flag.

2019
01:34:25,896 --> 01:34:28,310
And there is a
killer on the loose.

2020
01:34:32,448 --> 01:34:35,413
And they're all also
competing for a part.

2021
01:34:35,413 --> 01:34:37,000
It gets messy.

2022
01:34:42,896 --> 01:34:45,655
An actress named Samantha
commits herself to a psych ward.

2023
01:34:45,655 --> 01:34:47,448
She's trying to,
like, be the part.

2024
01:34:47,448 --> 01:34:49,448
And then the director
fucking leaves her there

2025
01:34:49,448 --> 01:34:52,413
and goes to a mansion to
hang out with five other

2026
01:34:52,413 --> 01:34:54,034
younger, hotter actresses,

2027
01:34:54,034 --> 01:34:57,137
while a killer in a hag
mask goes after them.

2028
01:34:59,379 --> 01:35:01,758
It has these "What Ever
Happened to Baby Jane?" vibes,

2029
01:35:01,758 --> 01:35:03,724
just because there is that
element in the beginning

2030
01:35:03,724 --> 01:35:06,862
of the older actress who
gets left in a psych ward,

2031
01:35:06,862 --> 01:35:09,482
and has to escape
to get revenge.

2032
01:35:09,482 --> 01:35:11,310
What are
you gonna do now?

2033
01:35:13,034 --> 01:35:14,586
What I love about the film

2034
01:35:14,586 --> 01:35:17,103
is it knows that Striker,
the director, is a creep.

2035
01:35:17,103 --> 01:35:18,000
Now seduce me.

2036
01:35:19,482 --> 01:35:20,482
No words.

2037
01:35:21,758 --> 01:35:23,103
You can make sounds if you like.

2038
01:35:23,103 --> 01:35:24,793
The horror in
"Curtains" for me

2039
01:35:24,793 --> 01:35:28,482
is the way that Jonathan
Striker treats the women.

2040
01:35:28,482 --> 01:35:31,310
He forces two women
to seduce each other,

2041
01:35:31,310 --> 01:35:33,758
and she's topless,
and you can just tell

2042
01:35:33,758 --> 01:35:35,379
the women are not into it,

2043
01:35:35,379 --> 01:35:38,275
but they just do it because
it's requested of them.

2044
01:35:38,275 --> 01:35:42,000
He preys on them, ends
up sleeping with them.

2045
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,034
Almost like an allegory
on the industry.

2046
01:35:46,034 --> 01:35:50,000
And there's that great
scene in the frozen pond,

2047
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,620
where the one actress is
skating away from the killer

2048
01:35:53,620 --> 01:35:55,206
with this doll in her hand,

2049
01:35:55,206 --> 01:35:56,896
and the killer's got the mask on

2050
01:35:56,896 --> 01:36:00,034
with this side, like
raises it,

2051
01:36:03,655 --> 01:36:06,448
Fucking insane, and
it's all in slow-mo,

2052
01:36:06,448 --> 01:36:09,137
and it's the weirdest
mask you've ever seen.

2053
01:36:10,655 --> 01:36:14,310
You don't know if
it's a woman or not.

2054
01:36:18,724 --> 01:36:20,206
It makes you
fear the daylight,

2055
01:36:20,206 --> 01:36:23,310
and the emptiness in what
can happen when you're alone

2056
01:36:23,310 --> 01:36:25,793
in a seemingly safe space.

2057
01:36:25,793 --> 01:36:29,068
Originally, they wanted to
create a banshee creature,

2058
01:36:29,068 --> 01:36:31,103
but they didn't move
forward with it.

2059
01:36:33,448 --> 01:36:37,827
"Curtains" has a very
interesting kind of tone.

2060
01:36:37,827 --> 01:36:39,586
That's because it
was actually directed

2061
01:36:39,586 --> 01:36:41,068
by two different people.

2062
01:36:41,068 --> 01:36:44,862
It feels almost very slow,
and very mood building,

2063
01:36:44,862 --> 01:36:47,724
and then in some scenes,
it's very slash 'em up,

2064
01:36:47,724 --> 01:36:51,206
and darkly lit, that it feels
like an art house slasher.

2065
01:36:56,068 --> 01:36:58,206
"Curtains" is for
people who like dolls

2066
01:36:58,206 --> 01:37:00,827
and ice skating,
and old witch masks.

2067
01:37:00,827 --> 01:37:02,241
That has me written all over it.

2068
01:37:02,241 --> 01:37:03,586
So I'm sold.

2069
01:37:15,206 --> 01:37:16,758
"Hell of the Living Dead".

2070
01:37:16,758 --> 01:37:19,724
Also known as "Night
of the Zombies",

2071
01:37:19,724 --> 01:37:21,655
originally titled "Virus".

2072
01:37:21,655 --> 01:37:24,137
But known in England as
"Zombie Creeping Flesh".

2073
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,000
This is the VHS tape,
and a perfect example

2074
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,482
of the lurid artwork
that I would see

2075
01:37:33,482 --> 01:37:35,655
on the shelves of a video shop

2076
01:37:35,655 --> 01:37:37,482
and think that movie is for me.

2077
01:37:40,275 --> 01:37:41,862
There's a lab in
Papua New Guinea

2078
01:37:41,862 --> 01:37:44,586
that has a chemical that
accidentally gets released

2079
01:37:44,586 --> 01:37:47,517
that turns pretty much
everybody into zombies.

2080
01:37:49,586 --> 01:37:50,827
And you follow this
group of people

2081
01:37:50,827 --> 01:37:52,103
that travel around the globe

2082
01:37:52,103 --> 01:37:54,172
trying to stop this
grand conspiracy.

2083
01:37:55,103 --> 01:37:57,000
Or maybe you just get eaten.

2084
01:37:58,448 --> 01:38:00,275
This is an Italian film
that was dubbed in English.

2085
01:38:01,379 --> 01:38:03,000
It was directed by Bruno Mattei,

2086
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,068
under the pseudonym
Vincent Dawn.

2087
01:38:05,068 --> 01:38:06,379
If you're familiar
with his work,

2088
01:38:06,379 --> 01:38:08,931
you know the dubbing
is pretty terrible,

2089
01:38:08,931 --> 01:38:11,000
but that just adds to
the awesomeness of it.

2090
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,517
And we liked each other.

2091
01:38:12,517 --> 01:38:14,103
We'd be in the sack
together by now.

2092
01:38:14,103 --> 01:38:15,379
That's your opinion.

2093
01:38:15,379 --> 01:38:18,344
Bruno Mattei was the
copycat of Lucio Fulci.

2094
01:38:19,758 --> 01:38:22,344
"Hell of the Living Dead"
came about in the wake

2095
01:38:22,344 --> 01:38:24,655
of the success of
Fulci's "Zombie",

2096
01:38:24,655 --> 01:38:28,689
so essentially he was making
an Italian zombie movie

2097
01:38:28,689 --> 01:38:30,137
which was shot in Spain,

2098
01:38:30,137 --> 01:38:33,000
but using the tropes that
Fulci had come up with

2099
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,724
on the back of ripping
off George Romero.

2100
01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:43,586
Set to the scores of Goblin,

2101
01:38:43,586 --> 01:38:46,620
but none of the score was
actually scored for this movie.

2102
01:38:46,620 --> 01:38:49,310
They used the soundtrack
from "Contamination"

2103
01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:51,275
and "Dawn of the
Dead" by Goblin,

2104
01:38:51,275 --> 01:38:54,206
and scored this movie
with those scores.

2105
01:38:55,344 --> 01:38:56,172
Father.

2106
01:38:56,172 --> 01:38:57,517
Father.

2107
01:38:57,517 --> 01:38:58,620
What's wrong with you?

2108
01:39:02,034 --> 01:39:03,689
When the pandemic
hit really hard,

2109
01:39:03,689 --> 01:39:05,827
of course I couldn't
stop making movies.

2110
01:39:05,827 --> 01:39:08,517
The idea of "Corona Zombies"
was these ditzy girls,

2111
01:39:08,517 --> 01:39:12,034
they turn a movie on
that was the footage

2112
01:39:12,034 --> 01:39:13,896
from "Hell of the Living
Dead", with all this

2113
01:39:13,896 --> 01:39:15,655
very funny clever new dialogue.

2114
01:39:15,655 --> 01:39:17,413
We have
just received shocking video

2115
01:39:17,413 --> 01:39:20,379
of what is believed to be
ground zero of the virus.

2116
01:39:20,379 --> 01:39:22,793
It was much like
"What's Up Tiger Lily?"

2117
01:39:23,931 --> 01:39:26,931
Is that one of
the corona zombies?

2118
01:39:26,931 --> 01:39:28,172
Shh.

2119
01:39:28,172 --> 01:39:29,586
"Hell of the Living
Dead", it's very ahead

2120
01:39:29,586 --> 01:39:31,724
of its time, and it's
very much against

2121
01:39:31,724 --> 01:39:35,275
man infecting the
earth with pollution.

2122
01:39:35,275 --> 01:39:37,206
And that is what's
causing the outbreak.

2123
01:39:37,206 --> 01:39:41,310
But it's also full of
Fulci-esque rotting zombies

2124
01:39:41,310 --> 01:39:42,827
and gore and splatter,

2125
01:39:42,827 --> 01:39:44,034
and eyes being poked out,

2126
01:39:44,034 --> 01:39:46,000
and guts being poked out.

2127
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,137
This movie is entirely enjoyable

2128
01:39:50,137 --> 01:39:51,275
from beginning to end.

2129
01:39:51,275 --> 01:39:53,793
It was the first
example where I realized

2130
01:39:53,793 --> 01:39:56,241
that the Video Nasties
panic was nonsense.

2131
01:40:11,689 --> 01:40:13,068
Father help me.

2132
01:40:15,103 --> 01:40:17,724
"Possession" is a
film about a couple

2133
01:40:17,724 --> 01:40:21,000
whose marriage is
deteriorating fast.

2134
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,827
What do you expect of me?

2135
01:40:22,827 --> 01:40:24,000
Look what you're doing!

2136
01:40:26,793 --> 01:40:29,724
Mark and Anna, you
can see that they are

2137
01:40:29,724 --> 01:40:31,551
extremely unhappy
with each other.

2138
01:40:31,551 --> 01:40:33,275
They're screaming at each other.

2139
01:40:33,275 --> 01:40:36,344
Isabelle Adjani is incredible.

2140
01:40:41,103 --> 01:40:43,655
But especially in
the subway scene.

2141
01:40:48,379 --> 01:40:49,827
And it's so disturbing.

2142
01:40:49,827 --> 01:40:51,275
One of the most effective scenes

2143
01:40:51,275 --> 01:40:55,068
of showing somebody just
completely losing themselves.

2144
01:41:00,275 --> 01:41:02,551
Sam Neill as Mark in this film

2145
01:41:02,551 --> 01:41:04,758
is a very anxious character.

2146
01:41:08,620 --> 01:41:10,862
Cinematography
really communicates

2147
01:41:10,862 --> 01:41:12,586
his inner feelings.

2148
01:41:12,586 --> 01:41:14,965
He's also very
paranoid about Anna.

2149
01:41:14,965 --> 01:41:16,586
Their whole
relationship together

2150
01:41:16,586 --> 01:41:18,793
is extremely hard to watch.

2151
01:41:19,862 --> 01:41:21,241
You know what this is for?

2152
01:41:22,206 --> 01:41:23,655
The lies!

2153
01:41:23,655 --> 01:41:26,448
Then you have
to add much more.

2154
01:41:26,448 --> 01:41:30,137
They're very codependent,
and very bad for each other.

2155
01:41:35,344 --> 01:41:38,000
The dramatic elements are
really what drives the movie,

2156
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,034
but then you have, it turns
into this creature feature.

2157
01:41:43,413 --> 01:41:44,379
My god.

2158
01:41:44,379 --> 01:41:46,379
He made love to me all night.

2159
01:41:47,862 --> 01:41:51,103
She actually in this movie
has sex with this monster,

2160
01:41:51,103 --> 01:41:52,931
which was created
by Carlo Rambaldi,

2161
01:41:52,931 --> 01:41:54,724
who most people
know is the person

2162
01:41:54,724 --> 01:41:57,172
who created E.T. for
Steven Spielberg.

2163
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:59,827
I can't believe
that they talked her

2164
01:41:59,827 --> 01:42:01,206
into doing that entire scene.

2165
01:42:01,206 --> 01:42:04,413
And it looks so realistic.

2166
01:42:07,275 --> 01:42:11,344
"Possession" is the epitome
of relationship horror.

2167
01:42:11,344 --> 01:42:13,724
That feeling of how it
is to all out of love

2168
01:42:13,724 --> 01:42:15,275
with someone you care about.

2169
01:42:15,275 --> 01:42:19,034
Those moments of
desperation and loss

2170
01:42:19,034 --> 01:42:20,931
are so heartbreaking.

2171
01:42:23,965 --> 01:42:26,000
It's a lot to take in.

2172
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,862
It's waiting to see
who will die first.

2173
01:42:28,862 --> 01:42:31,793
That is a movie that
deserved all the Oscar love,

2174
01:42:31,793 --> 01:42:33,586
because it really
took a lot of risks,

2175
01:42:33,586 --> 01:42:35,931
but it did a lot of
profound things as well.

2176
01:42:51,896 --> 01:42:56,103
"Devil Fetus" was made by a
bunch of first time filmmakers

2177
01:42:56,103 --> 01:42:59,724
that got a hold of themselves
some iconic actors.

2178
01:42:59,724 --> 01:43:00,827
And it's crazy.

2179
01:43:00,827 --> 01:43:02,896
The special effects are insane.

2180
01:43:05,827 --> 01:43:07,827
A woman buys a vase.

2181
01:43:07,827 --> 01:43:09,793
The vase has a demon.

2182
01:43:12,896 --> 01:43:14,551
He crawls out, and
he has sex with her

2183
01:43:14,551 --> 01:43:15,758
and impregnates her.

2184
01:43:15,758 --> 01:43:18,586
And that's the
devil fetus title.

2185
01:43:18,586 --> 01:43:22,068
Everybody dies around
her in miraculous ways.

2186
01:43:24,413 --> 01:43:26,586
That antique shop has
a lot to answer for.

2187
01:43:26,586 --> 01:43:28,241
Like, I hope she
kept the receipt.

2188
01:43:29,172 --> 01:43:31,241
It's a very weird movie.

2189
01:43:36,827 --> 01:43:38,586
What is cool about it is
these special effects,

2190
01:43:38,586 --> 01:43:41,000
and it has so much 80s charm.

2191
01:43:46,931 --> 01:43:50,655
You have this animated
thunder and lightning

2192
01:43:50,655 --> 01:43:52,172
coming out of people's hands,

2193
01:43:52,172 --> 01:43:55,137
you have them flying across
things, and floating heads.

2194
01:43:59,551 --> 01:44:02,448
The martial arts in this
is incredible, actually.

2195
01:44:02,448 --> 01:44:04,517
That's one of the
biggest selling points.

2196
01:44:07,103 --> 01:44:08,310
There's all kinds
of things happening

2197
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:10,482
in this movie that's
hard to explain.

2198
01:44:16,862 --> 01:44:18,689
To us it might seem
like a fever dream,

2199
01:44:18,689 --> 01:44:21,793
but to the people who were
involved in the culture,

2200
01:44:21,793 --> 01:44:24,241
they may know all of these
things from childhood.

2201
01:44:27,758 --> 01:44:29,620
Very few category
three films were cut,

2202
01:44:29,620 --> 01:44:30,965
and this one was.

2203
01:44:32,344 --> 01:44:34,206
It has to deal with
gore and the assault

2204
01:44:34,206 --> 01:44:36,275
that happens in the film.

2205
01:44:36,275 --> 01:44:38,344
Cat three goes to 11.

2206
01:44:38,344 --> 01:44:39,517
You know?

2207
01:44:39,517 --> 01:44:41,862
It's a little bit higher
than 10 and NC-17,

2208
01:44:41,862 --> 01:44:43,344
but it's not quite X.

2209
01:44:43,344 --> 01:44:46,000
Which, X-rated films were
rated Cat three as well.

2210
01:44:48,482 --> 01:44:49,724
You think the film's
going this way,

2211
01:44:49,724 --> 01:44:51,000
and then it goes in a
different direction.

2212
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,172
That's what's unique
about "Devil Fetus".

2213
01:44:58,482 --> 01:45:02,034
It has the most epic
last five minutes

2214
01:45:02,034 --> 01:45:04,137
of any movie you'll ever see.

2215
01:45:19,689 --> 01:45:21,344
"Eyes of Fire".

2216
01:45:21,344 --> 01:45:24,034
The secret is
sleeping in the trees.

2217
01:45:24,034 --> 01:45:25,172
"Eyes of Fire" is a weird one,

2218
01:45:25,172 --> 01:45:26,862
because it's set in the 1700s,

2219
01:45:26,862 --> 01:45:30,413
and it concerns a preacher
who is accused of adultery,

2220
01:45:30,413 --> 01:45:32,206
and is banished from town.

2221
01:45:32,206 --> 01:45:33,655
And he and his family
find themselves

2222
01:45:33,655 --> 01:45:37,241
in the woods beset by
spirits of Native Americans.

2223
01:45:37,241 --> 01:45:40,344
God damn them!

2224
01:45:40,344 --> 01:45:44,068
"Eyes of Fire" is an
American folk horror movie.

2225
01:45:44,068 --> 01:45:47,000
This valley is where
the lost blood gathers.

2226
01:45:48,482 --> 01:45:49,862
It's the home of the devil.

2227
01:45:51,068 --> 01:45:52,000
If you believe in it.

2228
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:53,275
This film is entirely unique,

2229
01:45:53,275 --> 01:45:56,586
shot by a photographer
called Avery Crounse.

2230
01:45:56,586 --> 01:45:59,068
I don't believe he'd made
a feature film before this,

2231
01:45:59,068 --> 01:46:00,896
and he's only made
a couple since.

2232
01:46:00,896 --> 01:46:03,655
It is a very photogenic
folk horror movie

2233
01:46:03,655 --> 01:46:05,241
shot in the woods.

2234
01:46:10,655 --> 01:46:13,241
As opposed to the meat
and potato slasher stuff

2235
01:46:13,241 --> 01:46:15,827
of the 80s, there's a
lot of surreal imagery,

2236
01:46:15,827 --> 01:46:18,482
and surreal moments,
faces in trees,

2237
01:46:18,482 --> 01:46:20,931
just weird
hallucinogenic moments

2238
01:46:20,931 --> 01:46:23,103
that don't feel of a piece
with the 80s, necessarily,

2239
01:46:23,103 --> 01:46:25,137
which in itself
makes it exciting.

2240
01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:31,931
This is what makes it
really unique and stick out.

2241
01:46:38,896 --> 01:46:40,137
Folk horror is a
very broad subgenre,

2242
01:46:40,137 --> 01:46:42,793
but it had a real moment
in the 60s and 70s,

2243
01:46:42,793 --> 01:46:44,862
and was primarily
a British thing,

2244
01:46:44,862 --> 01:46:47,275
so the fact that you're
seeing a folk horror film,

2245
01:46:47,275 --> 01:46:50,137
A, in the 80s, and
B, set in America,

2246
01:46:50,137 --> 01:46:51,620
was a bit unusual.

2247
01:46:51,620 --> 01:46:55,000
It was independently
produced by Avery Crounse.

2248
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,413
He basically moved on.

2249
01:46:56,413 --> 01:46:59,344
He didn't particularly connect
with the film industry.

2250
01:47:00,586 --> 01:47:02,517
We went to great
effort to find him

2251
01:47:02,517 --> 01:47:04,137
so that we could
include "Eyes of Fire"

2252
01:47:04,137 --> 01:47:07,000
in our All the Haunts Be
Ours folk horror box set.

2253
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,448
He basically still
owned the movie.

2254
01:47:09,448 --> 01:47:12,068
He had the negative
in a storage unit,

2255
01:47:12,068 --> 01:47:14,517
and it had been sitting there
since the 80s, basically.

2256
01:47:14,517 --> 01:47:16,551
Had not been scanned since.

2257
01:47:17,724 --> 01:47:19,068
I can see again.

2258
01:47:21,137 --> 01:47:24,068
He sent it here so that
we could scan it here

2259
01:47:24,068 --> 01:47:27,241
at Severin office, and he
even had a previous version

2260
01:47:27,241 --> 01:47:29,482
called "Crying Blue
Sky", which was longer,

2261
01:47:29,482 --> 01:47:32,172
and we were able to scan that
and include that as well.

2262
01:47:32,172 --> 01:47:34,275
So the reason it had
been out of distribution

2263
01:47:34,275 --> 01:47:36,620
was just because he
was out of the business

2264
01:47:36,620 --> 01:47:39,448
and had not been
traceable since.

2265
01:47:42,172 --> 01:47:43,413
Don't worry, my child.

2266
01:47:43,413 --> 01:47:45,793
Luckily we were
able to get it.

2267
01:47:59,517 --> 01:48:00,379
"Boarding House".

2268
01:48:00,379 --> 01:48:01,379
Rated R.

2269
01:48:02,551 --> 01:48:05,000
"Boarding House".

2270
01:48:11,034 --> 01:48:12,482
It was a movie
that didn't do well

2271
01:48:12,482 --> 01:48:15,551
that has gained a cult
following through the years.

2272
01:48:15,551 --> 01:48:19,172
John Wintergate, and
his wife Kalassu,

2273
01:48:19,172 --> 01:48:21,000
I believe they're
a little drunk,

2274
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,482
and they watched a
horror film at home,

2275
01:48:23,482 --> 01:48:25,137
and they both have the idea

2276
01:48:25,137 --> 01:48:27,068
of we can do that.

2277
01:48:31,275 --> 01:48:34,137
An interview John
Wintergate was watching

2278
01:48:34,137 --> 01:48:38,413
where George Lucas stated
that video is the future.

2279
01:48:38,413 --> 01:48:41,758
He got this idea it was easy
to make a movie on video.

2280
01:48:41,758 --> 01:48:44,034
You buy a video camera
for a few hundred dollars,

2281
01:48:44,034 --> 01:48:46,586
and you buy some blank
tapes, and you shoot a movie.

2282
01:48:46,586 --> 01:48:48,034
What is that?

2283
01:48:48,034 --> 01:48:48,896
It's apple juice.

2284
01:48:48,896 --> 01:48:49,827
Oh my god.

2285
01:48:49,827 --> 01:48:51,000
You didn't have to say that.

2286
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:52,689
They decided to
make a horror comedy.

2287
01:48:52,689 --> 01:48:56,206
They made the first big
shot on video movie.

2288
01:49:00,206 --> 01:49:01,379
But Wintergate and Kalassu

2289
01:49:01,379 --> 01:49:03,413
wrote, directed,
starred in this film,

2290
01:49:03,413 --> 01:49:04,793
did the music for it as well.

2291
01:49:04,793 --> 01:49:06,206
They were both musicians.

2292
01:49:08,379 --> 01:49:10,793
The husband and wife,
making something different.

2293
01:49:10,793 --> 01:49:12,448
When people watch the
movie, it's like wow,

2294
01:49:12,448 --> 01:49:13,655
this movie's crazy.

2295
01:49:13,655 --> 01:49:14,896
It's doing all these
sorts of things

2296
01:49:14,896 --> 01:49:15,827
that don't relate
to one another.

2297
01:49:15,827 --> 01:49:17,275
I'm preparing the Thorazine

2298
01:49:17,275 --> 01:49:19,448
for Mr. Ratchet's shock therapy.

2299
01:49:19,448 --> 01:49:20,931
Well, that's 'cause
it's heavily cut,

2300
01:49:20,931 --> 01:49:22,482
and that horror
comedy ended up being

2301
01:49:22,482 --> 01:49:24,068
two hours and 30 minutes long.

2302
01:49:24,068 --> 01:49:26,379
The distributors
did not like that.

2303
01:49:31,931 --> 01:49:34,000
They told to recut the
movie into what we got

2304
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,724
with "Boarding House",
which is an hour and a half

2305
01:49:35,724 --> 01:49:38,000
of a crazy, bizarre movie.

2306
01:49:40,344 --> 01:49:42,862
They cut out all the
comedy in the movie,

2307
01:49:42,862 --> 01:49:45,724
and tried to cut it as
a serious horror film.

2308
01:49:45,724 --> 01:49:48,655
I think that explains
a lot of the weirdness

2309
01:49:48,655 --> 01:49:49,827
in "Boarding House".

2310
01:49:49,827 --> 01:49:51,931
Watch.

2311
01:49:55,551 --> 01:49:58,689
This was the first,
and probably only,

2312
01:49:58,689 --> 01:50:00,655
wide release of a
shot on video movie

2313
01:50:00,655 --> 01:50:01,931
to screen and theaters,

2314
01:50:01,931 --> 01:50:03,931
because he blew up
35 millimeter prints,

2315
01:50:03,931 --> 01:50:06,172
which was very costly.

2316
01:50:09,586 --> 01:50:12,000
"Blood Cult" is
sometimes considered

2317
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,517
the first shot on video
film, but it is not.

2318
01:50:15,517 --> 01:50:18,793
"Blood Cult" was the
first shot on video movie

2319
01:50:18,793 --> 01:50:21,241
made for the video
market on home video.

2320
01:50:21,241 --> 01:50:22,689
"Blood Cult".

2321
01:50:22,689 --> 01:50:25,517
The first movie made especially
for the home video market.

2322
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,620
"Boarding House" paved
the way for shot on video.

2323
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,862
Filmmakers took notice that
you could buy a video camera,

2324
01:50:38,862 --> 01:50:41,586
or borrow your parents',
because they probably have one,

2325
01:50:41,586 --> 01:50:43,793
and then start shooting
movies with your friends.

2326
01:50:43,793 --> 01:50:46,620
That kick started the
shot on video boom.

2327
01:50:46,620 --> 01:50:48,758
You are trespassing.

2328
01:50:48,758 --> 01:50:53,655
This is my house!

2329
01:51:03,379 --> 01:51:04,965
Throughout the
80s, Asia were making

2330
01:51:04,965 --> 01:51:07,000
all of these horror films
that didn't really get

2331
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,413
much seen across the world,

2332
01:51:09,413 --> 01:51:11,827
but they were producing
some incredible stuff,

2333
01:51:11,827 --> 01:51:13,344
from interesting places.

2334
01:51:16,551 --> 01:51:19,103
I grew up in a half
Asian household.

2335
01:51:19,103 --> 01:51:21,310
My mum is from Philippines.

2336
01:51:21,310 --> 01:51:24,620
She made sure I was
aware that monsters

2337
01:51:24,620 --> 01:51:27,206
and ghosts and
creatures are real.

2338
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:35,482
Asian horror just really
gets under your skin.

2339
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,758
The first time I was exposed
to Asian horror movies

2340
01:51:40,758 --> 01:51:45,241
was when the whole boom came
with "The Ring", "Ju-on".

2341
01:51:45,241 --> 01:51:46,517
"The Grudge".

2342
01:51:46,517 --> 01:51:48,620
That opened a whole
new world for me.

2343
01:51:48,620 --> 01:51:52,206
I just thought, okay this is
the stuff of my nightmares.

2344
01:51:59,344 --> 01:52:04,137
I think that Japanese
people don't care as much

2345
01:52:04,137 --> 01:52:06,000
in the realism.

2346
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,310
It's more deep symbolism,

2347
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:13,000
and much more thought
out inner mental things,

2348
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,965
rather than just the
coherent storytelling.

2349
01:52:16,965 --> 01:52:18,965
That is more important to me.

2350
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,448
Their points of
reference for what's scary

2351
01:52:24,448 --> 01:52:25,965
are often very different.

2352
01:52:25,965 --> 01:52:27,517
A lot of western horror,
there's a Judeo-Christian

2353
01:52:27,517 --> 01:52:29,517
sort of root to it.

2354
01:52:30,758 --> 01:52:33,724
And their fears and
their preoccupations,

2355
01:52:33,724 --> 01:52:36,034
and their boogeymen come
from a different place.

2356
01:52:36,034 --> 01:52:38,103
And it's exciting to see
that cultural difference,

2357
01:52:38,103 --> 01:52:40,517
exciting to see
what scares people

2358
01:52:40,517 --> 01:52:41,965
in a culture that's
not your own.

2359
01:52:43,793 --> 01:52:45,793
I was very attracted
to the Asian flow

2360
01:52:45,793 --> 01:52:50,517
of movies coming in that
are about dream scapes,

2361
01:52:50,517 --> 01:52:53,310
that are about ghosts,
anything like that,

2362
01:52:53,310 --> 01:52:56,517
that gets me off in a
way that is both scary

2363
01:52:56,517 --> 01:52:59,103
and not as uncomfortable
as seeing a lot of blood.

2364
01:53:01,689 --> 01:53:03,689
My favorite Japanese
horror movie from the 80s

2365
01:53:03,689 --> 01:53:07,551
by far is "Sweet Home"
because it's so, so, so nuts.

2366
01:53:07,551 --> 01:53:10,068
At the same time, Capcom
released a game version,

2367
01:53:10,068 --> 01:53:12,965
which is almost better
than the actual film.

2368
01:53:12,965 --> 01:53:16,379
It's also the influence for
"Resident Evil" as well.

2369
01:53:16,379 --> 01:53:18,551
"Resident Evil".

2370
01:53:18,551 --> 01:53:21,724
So Kiyoshi Kurosawa, he's
the director of "Sweet Home".

2371
01:53:21,724 --> 01:53:23,448
And he went on to
do some of the best

2372
01:53:23,448 --> 01:53:26,275
Japanese horror
movies of the late 90s

2373
01:53:26,275 --> 01:53:27,827
and early 2000s.

2374
01:53:27,827 --> 01:53:29,655
If it wasn't for
him leading the way

2375
01:53:29,655 --> 01:53:32,000
making Japanese movies that
could potentially appeal

2376
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,137
to a Western audience,
you wouldn't have had

2377
01:53:34,137 --> 01:53:36,103
this J-horror explosion.

2378
01:53:39,379 --> 01:53:40,689
When you mention
80s Asian horror,

2379
01:53:40,689 --> 01:53:43,000
a lot of people think
of "House" from Japan,

2380
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,586
although that one's from 1977.

2381
01:53:49,344 --> 01:53:50,896
If you watch Japanese horror,

2382
01:53:50,896 --> 01:53:53,413
if you watch something
from Thailand,

2383
01:53:53,413 --> 01:53:55,068
if you watch something
from South Korea,

2384
01:53:55,068 --> 01:53:57,103
you're going to get a
different experience

2385
01:53:57,103 --> 01:53:58,379
from each of those.

2386
01:53:58,379 --> 01:54:00,586
South Korea's horror
movement that happened

2387
01:54:00,586 --> 01:54:04,137
just after J-horror explosion
has been incredible.

2388
01:54:07,172 --> 01:54:09,965
South Korea, Indonesia,
and the Philippines

2389
01:54:09,965 --> 01:54:12,655
kind of came into their
own regarding horror

2390
01:54:12,655 --> 01:54:14,241
a little bit later.

2391
01:54:14,241 --> 01:54:16,827
In terms of horror that's
commercially viable

2392
01:54:16,827 --> 01:54:18,310
in the Western world.

2393
01:54:21,620 --> 01:54:23,862
In the Philippines, there's
actually a lot of horror.

2394
01:54:23,862 --> 01:54:27,965
It's very sad that I can
not count on one hand

2395
01:54:27,965 --> 01:54:29,965
how many cross over to America.

2396
01:54:29,965 --> 01:54:32,172
One of the best
places for Asian horror,

2397
01:54:32,172 --> 01:54:34,862
especially out of
the 80s, was China.

2398
01:54:37,379 --> 01:54:40,000
A lot of it was based
on the mythology.

2399
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,379
We see demons, vampires,
ghosts, poltergeists,

2400
01:54:43,379 --> 01:54:46,310
a lot of witches, a
lot of wizards as well.

2401
01:54:49,413 --> 01:54:51,517
Some movies you should
definitely check out

2402
01:54:51,517 --> 01:54:54,310
are "Kung Fu Zombie",
"Human Lanterns",

2403
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:57,137
"Seeding of a Ghost",
and "Witch from Nepal"

2404
01:54:57,137 --> 01:54:58,758
with Chow Yun-Fat.

2405
01:55:03,172 --> 01:55:05,413
We know the Shaw
Brothers and Golden Harvest

2406
01:55:05,413 --> 01:55:08,482
as the purveyors of incredible
martial arts movies,

2407
01:55:08,482 --> 01:55:12,862
but they also dip their toe
in a lot of horror as well.

2408
01:55:16,931 --> 01:55:18,068
Asian horror cinema,

2409
01:55:18,068 --> 01:55:19,896
I like vampire movies for that.

2410
01:55:22,275 --> 01:55:26,275
Scary things that there is a
story of how they got scary.

2411
01:55:29,620 --> 01:55:30,931
The way they
present their monsters

2412
01:55:30,931 --> 01:55:33,310
is just so
fundamentally different

2413
01:55:33,310 --> 01:55:36,793
than how the Western
stereotype of a vampire

2414
01:55:36,793 --> 01:55:39,000
is just completely blown
up in an Asian film.

2415
01:55:40,448 --> 01:55:43,448
I'm completely obsessed
by the "Mr. Vampire" movies.

2416
01:55:43,448 --> 01:55:46,827
I'd never seen Jiangshi
vampires before.

2417
01:55:46,827 --> 01:55:50,137
I was mesmerized by
how comedic they were.

2418
01:55:50,137 --> 01:55:51,379
They hop.

2419
01:55:55,241 --> 01:55:56,655
When you watch "Mr. Vampire",

2420
01:55:56,655 --> 01:55:58,551
you see why people
are scared of them,

2421
01:55:58,551 --> 01:56:00,206
because they are relentless,

2422
01:56:00,206 --> 01:56:02,000
and you have to know
all of the tricks

2423
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:03,000
in order to defeat them.

2424
01:56:06,241 --> 01:56:08,586
"The Jitters" is
an unusual film.

2425
01:56:12,758 --> 01:56:15,413
Plus "The Jitters" was
directed by John Fasano

2426
01:56:15,413 --> 01:56:16,689
and not a Chinese guy.

2427
01:56:16,689 --> 01:56:18,482
There's a little bit
lost in translation.

2428
01:56:18,482 --> 01:56:20,862
It played fast and loose
with Chinese mythology

2429
01:56:20,862 --> 01:56:21,689
quite a lot.

2430
01:56:22,862 --> 01:56:25,827
Someone thought that
since they're so popular

2431
01:56:25,827 --> 01:56:28,448
over there, we'd make
an American version

2432
01:56:28,448 --> 01:56:31,620
of these movies, and
see how that does.

2433
01:56:32,448 --> 01:56:33,724
I got him!

2434
01:56:33,724 --> 01:56:35,172
I'm uncomfortable
with the movie now,

2435
01:56:35,172 --> 01:56:39,482
because there's a lot of
racial stereotypes in there,

2436
01:56:40,862 --> 01:56:43,103
at the time, I didn't
really think was a big deal,

2437
01:56:43,103 --> 01:56:44,413
but it is.

2438
01:56:51,241 --> 01:56:53,068
Understanding horror
explored through the lens

2439
01:56:53,068 --> 01:56:55,172
of other cultures, it's
an important thing,

2440
01:56:55,172 --> 01:56:56,724
and it's a cool thing.

2441
01:56:56,724 --> 01:56:58,517
Different cultures have
all these different kinds

2442
01:56:58,517 --> 01:57:00,793
of mythologies to draw from,

2443
01:57:00,793 --> 01:57:03,689
and there's just this
endless well of stories

2444
01:57:03,689 --> 01:57:04,931
that we can build upon.

2445
01:57:06,620 --> 01:57:09,448
When you're talking
about Asian horror now,

2446
01:57:09,448 --> 01:57:12,137
people are looking at it
from a broader perspective

2447
01:57:12,137 --> 01:57:15,344
because they've been able
to watch these movies.

2448
01:57:15,344 --> 01:57:18,758
Whereas in the 80s, a lot
of them were available,

2449
01:57:18,758 --> 01:57:22,551
but they just never really made
it outside of their markets.

2450
01:57:24,517 --> 01:57:26,172
Asian horror was
somewhat inaccessible

2451
01:57:26,172 --> 01:57:27,413
to a lot of us in the 80s.

2452
01:57:27,413 --> 01:57:28,862
Video stores didn't
carry a lot of it,

2453
01:57:28,862 --> 01:57:31,896
and it's only after J-horror
came up after the fact

2454
01:57:31,896 --> 01:57:34,034
that then suddenly we're
retroactively going back

2455
01:57:34,034 --> 01:57:35,862
into these catalogs and
finding these titles

2456
01:57:35,862 --> 01:57:38,517
that were not on our
radar in the 80s.

2457
01:57:41,137 --> 01:57:42,586
In a way that's kind of cool,

2458
01:57:42,586 --> 01:57:44,758
because then that's a
bucket of 80s horror

2459
01:57:44,758 --> 01:57:47,000
that we can go back
and look for now.

2460
01:58:00,896 --> 01:58:04,862
School was
hell, but vacation was murder.

2461
01:58:04,862 --> 01:58:05,689
"The Mutilator".

2462
01:58:06,655 --> 01:58:07,896
"The Mutilator".

2463
01:58:07,896 --> 01:58:09,827
It was originally
titled "Fall Break",

2464
01:58:09,827 --> 01:58:12,862
but the filmmakers apparently
felt "The Mutilator"

2465
01:58:12,862 --> 01:58:15,413
was a much more
user friendly title.

2466
01:58:15,413 --> 01:58:18,655
Four days of R
and R at the beach.

2467
01:58:18,655 --> 01:58:19,482
I'm in.

2468
01:58:19,482 --> 01:58:20,655
Sounds good to me.

2469
01:58:20,655 --> 01:58:22,413
I got a bad
feeling about this.

2470
01:58:22,413 --> 01:58:23,931
College kids on
their fall break,

2471
01:58:23,931 --> 01:58:26,620
and they get picked
off one by one.

2472
01:58:26,620 --> 01:58:31,551
I'm coming to get you!

2473
01:58:33,827 --> 01:58:37,034
By different use
of power tools,

2474
01:58:37,034 --> 01:58:39,103
and home repair tools.

2475
01:58:41,310 --> 01:58:43,655
One of the friends,
his dad hates him

2476
01:58:43,655 --> 01:58:46,103
because he blames him for
the death of his mother.

2477
01:58:49,689 --> 01:58:52,103
Just like this angry
dad who hates his son

2478
01:58:52,103 --> 01:58:54,758
and is gonna take it out
on him and his friends.

2479
01:59:00,517 --> 01:59:02,103
"The Mutilator" is
one of those that tries

2480
01:59:02,103 --> 01:59:05,000
to present as a comedy,
but isn't sure it wants

2481
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,689
to be a comedy,
and you're not sure

2482
01:59:06,689 --> 01:59:08,965
if you're supposed to be
laughing at a lot of it.

2483
01:59:08,965 --> 01:59:10,758
Looks like the party's
over for this joker.

2484
01:59:10,758 --> 01:59:12,931
Oh.

2485
01:59:12,931 --> 01:59:14,103
Yeah.

2486
01:59:14,103 --> 01:59:15,793
My dad ran over him
with a ski boat.

2487
01:59:15,793 --> 01:59:17,517
It's dancing to the
beat of its own drum.

2488
01:59:17,517 --> 01:59:19,034
What's wrong with the water?

2489
01:59:19,034 --> 01:59:21,620
It looks like it's been
loaded down with chlorine.

2490
01:59:21,620 --> 01:59:23,379
Will that hurt you?

2491
01:59:23,379 --> 01:59:25,620
No, in fact it
probably prevents herpes.

2492
01:59:25,620 --> 01:59:28,310
The art for "The
Mutilator" has this tagline

2493
01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:33,310
that says by sword, by
pick, by ax, bye-bye.

2494
01:59:34,172 --> 01:59:36,310
Catchy title, catchy tagline,

2495
01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:38,103
and some eye-grabbing art.

2496
01:59:39,275 --> 01:59:42,034
The more extreme the
exploitation level is,

2497
01:59:42,034 --> 01:59:43,931
the more likely a teen
is gonna rent that.

2498
01:59:43,931 --> 01:59:45,586
And that's the idea.

2499
01:59:49,931 --> 01:59:51,068
And that's why we
love these movies

2500
01:59:51,068 --> 01:59:52,482
so much to this day.

2501
02:00:05,896 --> 02:00:08,310
My first film in America,

2502
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:11,413
which is absolutely adored
doing, was "Maniac",

2503
02:00:11,413 --> 02:00:15,310
and I got to work with my
lovely Joe Spinell again,

2504
02:00:15,310 --> 02:00:18,586
who I first met in "Star Crash".

2505
02:00:21,551 --> 02:00:23,931
People connect
with Joe Spinell.

2506
02:00:23,931 --> 02:00:26,413
He is a compelling
actor to watch.

2507
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:29,482
I loved working with
Joe because he was

2508
02:00:29,482 --> 02:00:33,620
such a brilliant actor,
and a sweet, dear person.

2509
02:00:35,689 --> 02:00:38,931
"The Last Horror Film" is
about New York cab driver

2510
02:00:38,931 --> 02:00:41,586
who's obsessed with
Caroline Munroe,

2511
02:00:41,586 --> 02:00:43,931
and he follows her to
the Cannes Film Festival

2512
02:00:43,931 --> 02:00:46,724
where a serial killer
is on the loose.

2513
02:00:50,793 --> 02:00:52,551
It was called "The
Last Horror Film",

2514
02:00:52,551 --> 02:00:54,862
and then they called it
"Fanatic" after that.

2515
02:00:56,172 --> 02:00:59,137
This film was an unofficial
followup to "Maniac".

2516
02:00:59,137 --> 02:01:00,379
I got talent, ma!

2517
02:01:00,379 --> 02:01:01,931
I'm gonna be a great
director someday!

2518
02:01:01,931 --> 02:01:03,206
Don't
yell at your mother!

2519
02:01:03,206 --> 02:01:05,000
It's great to see Joe Spinell

2520
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:06,586
and Caroline Munroe together,

2521
02:01:06,586 --> 02:01:08,448
and I think the
pairing is fantastic.

2522
02:01:09,551 --> 02:01:10,620
Who is it?

2523
02:01:10,620 --> 02:01:11,827
We were an odd couple.

2524
02:01:11,827 --> 02:01:13,206
We were, weren't we?

2525
02:01:13,206 --> 02:01:15,241
Jana Bates is going to
star in my next movie.

2526
02:01:15,241 --> 02:01:16,172
It's all set.

2527
02:01:16,172 --> 02:01:17,586
I'm producing and directing.

2528
02:01:17,586 --> 02:01:19,793
Vinny, are you sure
you're making a movie?

2529
02:01:19,793 --> 02:01:21,827
He was wonderful in that film.

2530
02:01:21,827 --> 02:01:24,275
Very quirky, very quirky.

2531
02:01:24,275 --> 02:01:27,620
And my character, she
was spooked by Joe,

2532
02:01:27,620 --> 02:01:31,068
because Joe had an obsession
for this actress, Jana Bates.

2533
02:01:31,068 --> 02:01:33,068
Who are you?

2534
02:01:33,068 --> 02:01:34,310
Get out.

2535
02:01:34,310 --> 02:01:35,413
I thought we'd
just have a drink

2536
02:01:35,413 --> 02:01:36,586
and talk about the film.

2537
02:01:36,586 --> 02:01:38,379
You'll be absolutely
perfect in it.

2538
02:01:38,379 --> 02:01:40,103
It was directed
by David Winters,

2539
02:01:40,103 --> 02:01:41,620
who was in "West Side Story",

2540
02:01:41,620 --> 02:01:43,827
and sure enough, they
just showed up in Cannes,

2541
02:01:43,827 --> 02:01:45,620
and started shooting this movie,

2542
02:01:45,620 --> 02:01:48,000
so there's a lot of
run and gun footage

2543
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,137
of the Cannes Film Festival.

2544
02:01:50,137 --> 02:01:51,793
One of the first
guerrilla films

2545
02:01:51,793 --> 02:01:53,379
to be made there, for sure.

2546
02:01:53,379 --> 02:01:56,931
And I had to run along
the crasette in a towel.

2547
02:01:56,931 --> 02:01:59,620
They were all lined
up, real people,

2548
02:01:59,620 --> 02:02:03,000
to see Jack Nicholson,
Leslie Caron,

2549
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,758
go on the red carpet.

2550
02:02:04,758 --> 02:02:06,275
They said Caroline, you're
just gonna have to run

2551
02:02:06,275 --> 02:02:07,517
along the red carpet.

2552
02:02:07,517 --> 02:02:09,034
I said what, I've
got a towel on.

2553
02:02:09,034 --> 02:02:11,896
They said that's okay,
just do your own thing.

2554
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:15,172
Please!

2555
02:02:15,172 --> 02:02:17,000
Hot damn, that's Jana Bates!

2556
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,965
"The Last Horror Film"
is not as gory as "Maniac"

2557
02:02:19,965 --> 02:02:22,620
but it does have a good
amount of kills in it.

2558
02:02:25,482 --> 02:02:27,482
There's a lot of meta elements.

2559
02:02:28,896 --> 02:02:30,793
There's one bit where
Joe Spinell's in a cinema

2560
02:02:30,793 --> 02:02:32,896
watching a new horror movie,

2561
02:02:32,896 --> 02:02:34,517
and he actually is
eating his popcorn,

2562
02:02:34,517 --> 02:02:35,689
and starts throwing up

2563
02:02:35,689 --> 02:02:38,000
because it's too
gross, too disgusting.

2564
02:02:40,724 --> 02:02:42,206
It's questioning horror movies

2565
02:02:42,206 --> 02:02:44,517
because "Maniac" got
a lot of backlash

2566
02:02:44,517 --> 02:02:46,689
because of how
misogynistic it was.

2567
02:02:46,689 --> 02:02:49,758
Now tell us why you're
such a failure, Vinny.

2568
02:02:49,758 --> 02:02:51,241
I'm a genius.

2569
02:02:51,241 --> 02:02:53,137
Jana Bates is going
to star in my movie.

2570
02:02:53,137 --> 02:02:54,241
She loves me!

2571
02:02:54,241 --> 02:02:56,034
It's a very bizarre film.

2572
02:02:56,034 --> 02:02:58,655
So I would think
the ultimate theme

2573
02:02:58,655 --> 02:03:00,965
for "The Last Horror
Film" or "The Fanatic"

2574
02:03:00,965 --> 02:03:02,689
would have to be obsession.

2575
02:03:02,689 --> 02:03:03,517
Obsessive love.

2576
02:03:03,517 --> 02:03:04,793
He loved her.

2577
02:03:04,793 --> 02:03:07,586
Or he loved what he
saw of her onscreen.

2578
02:03:07,586 --> 02:03:09,310
But he didn't know her.

2579
02:03:09,310 --> 02:03:10,827
Could you move your
head a little to the right

2580
02:03:11,689 --> 02:03:12,862
in this space?

2581
02:03:14,793 --> 02:03:16,517
Perfect, just perfect.

2582
02:03:21,862 --> 02:03:23,068
I always think it's
really interesting

2583
02:03:23,068 --> 02:03:26,000
when the protagonist
of a horror film,

2584
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,413
especially in this
period, is a guy,

2585
02:03:28,413 --> 02:03:30,724
because usually we
associate the 80s

2586
02:03:30,724 --> 02:03:35,137
as the time where final
girls came into full force.

2587
02:03:38,241 --> 02:03:40,103
"Mutant".

2588
02:03:40,103 --> 02:03:41,517
"Mutant", originally released

2589
02:03:41,517 --> 02:03:43,758
as "Night Shadows" theatrically.

2590
02:03:43,758 --> 02:03:46,758
It turned up on VHS as "Mutant".

2591
02:03:46,758 --> 02:03:50,068
The two very capable
leads are Wings Hauser

2592
02:03:50,068 --> 02:03:51,586
and Lee Montgomery.

2593
02:03:51,586 --> 02:03:54,241
Our car broke down and we
just need a place to stay.

2594
02:03:54,241 --> 02:03:56,172
We'll be gone first thing
in the morning, I promise.

2595
02:03:56,172 --> 02:03:58,448
They end up in a dead end town

2596
02:03:58,448 --> 02:04:00,620
because their car messed up.

2597
02:04:02,379 --> 02:04:03,724
They go to the local bar,

2598
02:04:03,724 --> 02:04:06,103
and instantly these
locals beat them up,

2599
02:04:06,103 --> 02:04:07,379
rough them up.

2600
02:04:07,379 --> 02:04:08,896
Oh no!

2601
02:04:10,379 --> 02:04:13,000
They end up being patched
up by the local doctor.

2602
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:15,103
And they start to get
their first inklings

2603
02:04:15,103 --> 02:04:16,655
that something is
wrong in this town,

2604
02:04:16,655 --> 02:04:18,517
that people are going missing.

2605
02:04:18,517 --> 02:04:21,482
This is toxic waste
infecting a small community

2606
02:04:21,482 --> 02:04:24,137
and turning them into zombies.

2607
02:04:25,379 --> 02:04:26,931
This
mutation somehow causes

2608
02:04:26,931 --> 02:04:28,517
an increasing need for blood.

2609
02:04:30,482 --> 02:04:32,034
Just so many zombies.

2610
02:04:32,034 --> 02:04:33,655
They're all over the place.

2611
02:04:37,413 --> 02:04:39,586
It was obviously
inspired by George Romero.

2612
02:04:42,344 --> 02:04:43,620
And you see this
in a lot of films,

2613
02:04:43,620 --> 02:04:44,827
like "Return of
the Living Dead",

2614
02:04:44,827 --> 02:04:46,344
and you see it in a
lot of the Troma films.

2615
02:04:46,344 --> 02:04:48,827
Toxic waste was a
big thing in the 80s.

2616
02:04:51,724 --> 02:04:54,000
I like my zombies
to be serious.

2617
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,068
They definitely got
the vibe of what made

2618
02:04:56,068 --> 02:04:57,655
those movies so much fun.

2619
02:04:59,413 --> 02:05:00,965
No!

2620
02:05:00,965 --> 02:05:02,310
The effects are kind of hokey,

2621
02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:04,551
because when these
zombies approach you,

2622
02:05:04,551 --> 02:05:06,827
and they touch you, which
ultimately turns you

2623
02:05:06,827 --> 02:05:10,034
into a zombie, all this
steam comes off you,

2624
02:05:10,034 --> 02:05:12,344
almost like they're
pressing a shirt,

2625
02:05:12,344 --> 02:05:14,034
like a big life sized iron.

2626
02:05:18,137 --> 02:05:19,482
Jack?

2627
02:05:19,482 --> 02:05:20,931
But there's one
real cool sequence

2628
02:05:20,931 --> 02:05:22,620
where you just know
there's gonna be a zombie.

2629
02:05:22,620 --> 02:05:23,862
You just know it.

2630
02:05:23,862 --> 02:05:25,931
And then she slowly
goes over to him,

2631
02:05:25,931 --> 02:05:28,206
slowly pulls out the covers.

2632
02:05:30,862 --> 02:05:34,241
These locals just inherently
hate other people.

2633
02:05:37,310 --> 02:05:39,931
Some secrets should
remain secret,

2634
02:05:39,931 --> 02:05:42,034
and the way you do
that is by keeping

2635
02:05:42,034 --> 02:05:44,034
all the outsiders away.

2636
02:05:59,689 --> 02:06:02,931
"The New York Ripper"
is a very violent giallo

2637
02:06:02,931 --> 02:06:05,689
made by Lucio Fulci
after he'd already made

2638
02:06:05,689 --> 02:06:07,310
"Zombie Flesh
Eaters", "The Beyond",

2639
02:06:07,310 --> 02:06:09,000
and "House by the Cemetery".

2640
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,482
Fulci was kind of riding
high at this point

2641
02:06:11,482 --> 02:06:12,689
in his career.

2642
02:06:12,689 --> 02:06:15,000
"Zombie" was a huge
success internationally

2643
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,896
by the standards of Italian
exploitation movies.

2644
02:06:17,896 --> 02:06:20,551
He went on and decided
to make a thriller.

2645
02:06:21,620 --> 02:06:23,793
About a ripper in New York.

2646
02:06:25,793 --> 02:06:28,551
During this time, a lot
of Italian filmmakers

2647
02:06:28,551 --> 02:06:32,689
would come to the US and
shoot establishing footage,

2648
02:06:32,689 --> 02:06:35,413
and that's all tied into
how Italian filmmakers

2649
02:06:35,413 --> 02:06:38,551
were trying to make their
films seem American.

2650
02:06:42,137 --> 02:06:44,689
The killer in the
film has a Donald Duck

2651
02:06:44,689 --> 02:06:46,724
kind of quacking voice.

2652
02:06:46,724 --> 02:06:48,206
Said he called back.

2653
02:06:48,206 --> 02:06:49,896
Sounded just like a duck.

2654
02:06:52,172 --> 02:06:53,413
Like a duck?

2655
02:06:53,413 --> 02:06:55,379
Which adds to the
element of the bizarre

2656
02:06:55,379 --> 02:06:58,206
of this movie, and I
think it shows Fulci's

2657
02:06:58,206 --> 02:07:00,137
sense of humor as well.

2658
02:07:03,068 --> 02:07:05,206
There's a fair amount
of sleaze in the movie

2659
02:07:05,206 --> 02:07:06,793
as well, and nudity.

2660
02:07:10,655 --> 02:07:13,275
There's a very famous
sequence in the film

2661
02:07:13,275 --> 02:07:15,206
where an actress
is tied to a bed,

2662
02:07:15,206 --> 02:07:17,206
and essentially
gets razor bladed

2663
02:07:17,206 --> 02:07:19,000
in the eye and in the nipple,

2664
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:22,275
and it's extremely
graphic and close up,

2665
02:07:22,275 --> 02:07:24,482
but it has that ocular violence

2666
02:07:24,482 --> 02:07:26,241
that Fulci had
become famous for,

2667
02:07:26,241 --> 02:07:28,931
and he was trying
to outdo, it seems,

2668
02:07:28,931 --> 02:07:30,896
in every movie that he did.

2669
02:07:30,896 --> 02:07:32,724
It definitely pushed
the boundaries

2670
02:07:32,724 --> 02:07:34,413
of what was acceptable.

2671
02:07:34,413 --> 02:07:36,689
This film made sure
that in England,

2672
02:07:36,689 --> 02:07:38,172
if you were found with a copy,

2673
02:07:38,172 --> 02:07:39,655
you were definitely
having it seized,

2674
02:07:39,655 --> 02:07:41,379
and you would
probably be arrested.

2675
02:07:42,448 --> 02:07:43,448
Like a duck?

2676
02:07:43,448 --> 02:07:44,551
Quack, quack, quack.

2677
02:07:44,551 --> 02:07:45,793
Just like that.

2678
02:07:52,206 --> 02:07:53,586
"The Initiation".

2679
02:07:54,827 --> 02:07:56,241
The ceremony that
will never die,

2680
02:07:56,241 --> 02:07:58,724
as long as new blood is pledged.

2681
02:07:58,724 --> 02:08:01,000
I rented that movie
the very first time,

2682
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:04,620
because I loved Daphne
Zuniga in "Spaceballs",

2683
02:08:04,620 --> 02:08:06,482
and it was right when
Melrose Place was hitting.

2684
02:08:06,482 --> 02:08:08,965
And we've got a
girl in a sorority,

2685
02:08:08,965 --> 02:08:11,275
she's being hazed.

2686
02:08:13,758 --> 02:08:16,206
Her character, Kelly, is
having these nightmares,

2687
02:08:16,206 --> 02:08:18,241
so she actually goes
through a sleep study

2688
02:08:18,241 --> 02:08:19,448
trying to figure out the reason

2689
02:08:19,448 --> 02:08:20,689
behind her nightmares.

2690
02:08:20,689 --> 02:08:22,758
It's fairly common for
the subconscious mind

2691
02:08:22,758 --> 02:08:25,517
to fictionalize certain
emotional states.

2692
02:08:25,517 --> 02:08:27,724
There's a woman
committing adultery

2693
02:08:27,724 --> 02:08:29,000
with another guy.

2694
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,034
A little girl comes
in and catches them,

2695
02:08:31,034 --> 02:08:32,965
starts stabbing the
crap out of somebody,

2696
02:08:32,965 --> 02:08:34,827
and then the guy goes on fire,

2697
02:08:34,827 --> 02:08:37,103
and she can't
remember what happens.

2698
02:08:37,103 --> 02:08:38,827
I was in a coma
for three months,

2699
02:08:38,827 --> 02:08:40,689
and they kept me in this
private hospital in Chicago.

2700
02:08:40,689 --> 02:08:42,206
When I came out of
it, I had no memory.

2701
02:08:42,206 --> 02:08:44,482
Her father, who's
played by Clu Gulager,

2702
02:08:44,482 --> 02:08:46,896
owns this big shopping building,

2703
02:08:46,896 --> 02:08:49,586
and she's tasked
with breaking in

2704
02:08:49,586 --> 02:08:53,379
and stealing a night
porter's outfits.

2705
02:08:53,379 --> 02:08:56,206
Course, a lot of
bad things happen.

2706
02:09:02,413 --> 02:09:03,724
It is a movie that
takes a little time

2707
02:09:03,724 --> 02:09:05,724
to get going, but once
they get into that mall,

2708
02:09:05,724 --> 02:09:08,034
there's some really fun kills.

2709
02:09:12,379 --> 02:09:13,896
You're finding bodies
all over the place

2710
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,793
The security guard is
a bummer.

2711
02:09:23,206 --> 02:09:25,827
There's so many wacky out
there things in the 80s,

2712
02:09:25,827 --> 02:09:27,448
where I guess they
just tried things

2713
02:09:27,448 --> 02:09:28,965
more than we do now.

2714
02:09:30,103 --> 02:09:32,137
You know, it takes
some leaps and bounds.

2715
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,758
Spoiler alert, there's
a twist at the end.

2716
02:09:37,758 --> 02:09:38,586
Peter!

2717
02:09:39,758 --> 02:09:41,551
And you're left
sitting there like,

2718
02:09:41,551 --> 02:09:43,931
wait, what is going on?

2719
02:09:45,793 --> 02:09:47,000
You have to rationalize
it to yourself

2720
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,620
so that you can
move on and finish

2721
02:09:48,620 --> 02:09:49,862
the rest of the movie.

2722
02:09:49,862 --> 02:09:52,103
It's a total shock at the end.

2723
02:09:52,103 --> 02:09:53,448
I've never seen
anything like that

2724
02:09:53,448 --> 02:09:54,689
before in my life.

2725
02:09:54,689 --> 02:09:56,103
The more I think about
it, the more I think

2726
02:09:56,103 --> 02:09:57,896
they just wanted
to blow our minds.

2727
02:10:03,413 --> 02:10:05,793
Scared the shit out of them!

2728
02:10:11,448 --> 02:10:14,137
The only reason that they
would set horror movies

2729
02:10:14,137 --> 02:10:17,724
on holidays is that they
had no marketing budget.

2730
02:10:17,724 --> 02:10:21,379
So it was a way to get
attention from the press.

2731
02:10:21,379 --> 02:10:23,344
Most decisions made in the 80s

2732
02:10:23,344 --> 02:10:25,448
were strictly
financial decisions.

2733
02:10:25,448 --> 02:10:27,034
A
present from the people

2734
02:10:27,034 --> 02:10:29,310
who brought you
"Friday the 13th"

2735
02:10:29,310 --> 02:10:32,344
now comes "Don't
Open Till Christmas".

2736
02:10:33,965 --> 02:10:36,586
"Don't Open Till
Christmas" is a real curio,

2737
02:10:36,586 --> 02:10:38,482
a slasher film set in the UK

2738
02:10:38,482 --> 02:10:41,103
about a killer who goes around

2739
02:10:41,103 --> 02:10:43,275
killing people in Santa suits.

2740
02:10:49,379 --> 02:10:51,000
It's almost like
Fulci directed this.

2741
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:52,551
It's so grimy and slimy,

2742
02:10:52,551 --> 02:10:54,793
and as soon as you step
foot into an alley,

2743
02:10:54,793 --> 02:10:55,827
you're dead meat.

2744
02:10:59,172 --> 02:11:02,655
The reason for the serial
killer killing Santa Claus

2745
02:11:02,655 --> 02:11:06,241
is obviously some trauma
from when he was a kid.

2746
02:11:06,241 --> 02:11:08,724
And you see this in a
flashback streaked dream,

2747
02:11:08,724 --> 02:11:10,517
and he's just been,
for all these years,

2748
02:11:10,517 --> 02:11:13,655
hellbent on getting
revenge on Santa.

2749
02:11:14,896 --> 02:11:17,517
The department store,
you have this big, fat,

2750
02:11:17,517 --> 02:11:19,655
Santa Claus guy,
who's going around

2751
02:11:19,655 --> 02:11:21,724
and leering at all the girls.

2752
02:11:21,724 --> 02:11:22,655
And as soon as he
gets to the toilets,

2753
02:11:22,655 --> 02:11:24,103
you know what's gonna happen.

2754
02:11:25,517 --> 02:11:27,586
And it's just blood
squirting everywhere.

2755
02:11:32,655 --> 02:11:34,344
He gets his apt punishment.

2756
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:37,793
Caroline Munroe turns
up in this film as well,

2757
02:11:37,793 --> 02:11:39,000
which was a surprise.

2758
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,206
She's like a dancer in a club.

2759
02:11:41,206 --> 02:11:43,379
Man, that woman is beautiful.

2760
02:11:43,379 --> 02:11:46,034
If you blink, you're
gonna miss me in it.

2761
02:11:48,034 --> 02:11:49,758
George Dugdale, my husband,

2762
02:11:49,758 --> 02:11:53,000
he did the effects on
"Don't Open Till Christmas".

2763
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:55,793
They got the Piccadilly
Theater in London.

2764
02:11:55,793 --> 02:11:57,965
I went in for about two hours,

2765
02:11:57,965 --> 02:12:00,931
on the thing, and I
wiggled about the stage,

2766
02:12:00,931 --> 02:12:02,862
and kind of sang
"Warrior of Love".

2767
02:12:02,862 --> 02:12:04,827
Basically, that's my bit in it.

2768
02:12:04,827 --> 02:12:07,172
♪ I'm the warrior of love

2769
02:12:07,172 --> 02:12:08,931
♪ Yes I am

2770
02:12:08,931 --> 02:12:11,000
Father Christmas appears,
and the trapdoor,

2771
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,896
just as I'm mid-sing,
and so I react to him,

2772
02:12:13,896 --> 02:12:15,172
the Father Christmas dead.

2773
02:12:20,586 --> 02:12:22,827
Maybe they just needed
a bit of a filler.

2774
02:12:22,827 --> 02:12:25,310
Maybe they thought, oh we've
got five minutes to spare.

2775
02:12:25,310 --> 02:12:26,448
Bang her in.

2776
02:12:26,448 --> 02:12:28,137
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah

2777
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:30,965
A lot of Santas
die in this film,

2778
02:12:30,965 --> 02:12:33,000
so if you are into horror movies

2779
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:35,827
for the festive body count,
then this is the one.

2780
02:12:35,827 --> 02:12:37,551
There's a party going on!

2781
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:40,758
Look, there's
no party here, mate.

2782
02:12:48,931 --> 02:12:51,620
I wasn't allowed to
watch horror movies

2783
02:12:51,620 --> 02:12:56,241
or sci-fi movies when
I was little.

2784
02:12:56,241 --> 02:12:58,931
Because I was too sensitive.

2785
02:12:58,931 --> 02:13:02,000
I was older when I
saw "The Exorcist".

2786
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,482
That was the most frightening
movie I've ever seen.

2787
02:13:05,482 --> 02:13:07,482
I felt it could really happen.

2788
02:13:07,482 --> 02:13:10,068
This study of the human psyche

2789
02:13:10,068 --> 02:13:13,862
has always been
prevalent in my work,

2790
02:13:13,862 --> 02:13:15,896
and in why I want to work.

2791
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,827
My whole method
is the less I know

2792
02:13:20,827 --> 02:13:25,586
what's gonna happen, the more
alive in the moment I am.

2793
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:30,724
The most memorable scene
in "The Hills Have Eyes"

2794
02:13:30,724 --> 02:13:34,413
with Wes was when I had to
work with the tarantula.

2795
02:13:34,413 --> 02:13:37,689
They assured me that
it couldn't hurt me.

2796
02:13:37,689 --> 02:13:42,137
Afterwards, I found out that
oh yeah, it could've.

2797
02:13:42,137 --> 02:13:44,206
And I said Wes, I'm scared.

2798
02:13:44,206 --> 02:13:46,827
And he said, will you trust me,

2799
02:13:46,827 --> 02:13:50,310
that I will make sure
that everything is handled

2800
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:51,379
so that you're safe?

2801
02:13:53,655 --> 02:13:55,448
And that's just who Wes was.

2802
02:13:55,448 --> 02:13:56,275
You did.

2803
02:13:58,793 --> 02:14:02,758
To me, "The Howling" was
the battle of good and evil,

2804
02:14:02,758 --> 02:14:05,310
which goes on within all of us.

2805
02:14:05,310 --> 02:14:08,482
There was so much
in "The Howling"

2806
02:14:08,482 --> 02:14:13,482
that elevated that film,
because of Joe Dante.

2807
02:14:14,689 --> 02:14:16,896
Joe brings more of who
he is into his films,

2808
02:14:16,896 --> 02:14:20,241
because Joe is very funny.

2809
02:14:20,241 --> 02:14:23,758
And he always finds a way

2810
02:14:23,758 --> 02:14:25,655
to bring that humor,

2811
02:14:25,655 --> 02:14:27,620
even if it's dark humor,

2812
02:14:27,620 --> 02:14:29,758
into his projects.

2813
02:14:33,793 --> 02:14:37,827
"Cujo" was always about
what a mother would do

2814
02:14:37,827 --> 02:14:39,000
for her child.

2815
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,724
It was never a
horror film to me.

2816
02:14:41,724 --> 02:14:45,827
It was a statement of
how far a mother would go

2817
02:14:45,827 --> 02:14:47,931
to keep her kid safe.

2818
02:14:47,931 --> 02:14:50,586
It's not a monster,
it's just a doggie.

2819
02:14:52,655 --> 02:14:54,344
I've heard from
so many people,

2820
02:14:54,344 --> 02:14:56,689
I watched it when I was younger,

2821
02:14:56,689 --> 02:14:57,896
and it was a horror film.

2822
02:14:57,896 --> 02:15:00,241
I watch it now
after I have kids,

2823
02:15:00,241 --> 02:15:03,310
it's a whole different film.

2824
02:15:06,655 --> 02:15:09,275
My father was a
severe alcoholic.

2825
02:15:09,275 --> 02:15:14,068
So for most practical
purposes, I had a single mom.

2826
02:15:14,068 --> 02:15:16,000
And she was a strong mom.

2827
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,793
And I had a strong grandma
that helped raise me.

2828
02:15:19,793 --> 02:15:23,965
So I had some really
good personal material

2829
02:15:23,965 --> 02:15:25,310
to call on.

2830
02:15:29,896 --> 02:15:32,689
There were nine dogs
that played Cujo.

2831
02:15:32,689 --> 02:15:36,000
Two black labs that
could fit in a dog suit

2832
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:39,620
if we needed it, and a
stuntman in the dog suit.

2833
02:15:41,551 --> 02:15:44,379
The dogs were all
trained to go after toys,

2834
02:15:44,379 --> 02:15:48,000
and we had to tie their
tails down with fish wire,

2835
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,620
because they were
having so much fun.

2836
02:15:52,931 --> 02:15:56,551
Stephen King is the
sweetest, kinda shy,

2837
02:15:56,551 --> 02:15:58,724
very gentle man.

2838
02:15:58,724 --> 02:16:00,482
When he came on
the set of "Cujo",

2839
02:16:00,482 --> 02:16:05,103
I went, where does it
come from?

2840
02:16:05,103 --> 02:16:07,000
And he just started laughing.

2841
02:16:08,931 --> 02:16:13,931
After "E.T.", I was
plagued with mother parts.

2842
02:16:15,103 --> 02:16:16,793
It's not that I don't
want to play mothers,

2843
02:16:16,793 --> 02:16:19,827
I just want to play everything.

2844
02:16:19,827 --> 02:16:22,827
Dear god, I probably
have 800 roles

2845
02:16:22,827 --> 02:16:24,137
of every kind of mom.

2846
02:16:24,137 --> 02:16:27,379
Psycho mom, sweet
mom, drugged mom,

2847
02:16:27,379 --> 02:16:30,137
killer mom, hooker mom.

2848
02:16:30,137 --> 02:16:31,172
Everything!

2849
02:16:32,206 --> 02:16:33,034
No!

2850
02:16:33,034 --> 02:16:34,275
No!

2851
02:16:34,275 --> 02:16:38,896
No, no!

2852
02:16:40,275 --> 02:16:42,206
It was almost like poetry
to me, "Shadow Play".

2853
02:16:42,206 --> 02:16:45,724
And I wanted desperately to
work with Cloris Leachman.

2854
02:16:47,068 --> 02:16:52,068
I had to do that very
artsy dream nude scene,

2855
02:16:53,206 --> 02:16:54,758
and my husband was
not happy about that.

2856
02:16:55,965 --> 02:16:58,793
I don't think I've ever
told this story before.

2857
02:16:58,793 --> 02:17:00,206
He called me, and he said

2858
02:17:01,448 --> 02:17:03,448
if you do that scene tomorrow,

2859
02:17:03,448 --> 02:17:05,206
I think we're done.

2860
02:17:05,206 --> 02:17:09,551
I said Chris, don't make
me make that choice.

2861
02:17:09,551 --> 02:17:13,517
We got my therapist on
the phone at three a.m.

2862
02:17:13,517 --> 02:17:15,655
in the morning, and
we worked it out

2863
02:17:15,655 --> 02:17:18,724
that what was
really bothering him

2864
02:17:18,724 --> 02:17:21,931
was that he would have
to wait all those months

2865
02:17:21,931 --> 02:17:23,793
wondering what happened.

2866
02:17:23,793 --> 02:17:27,172
And if the director would
agree to show him the dailies,

2867
02:17:27,172 --> 02:17:28,379
he would be okay.

2868
02:17:28,379 --> 02:17:31,344
Now, this is pretty
funny coming from a guy

2869
02:17:31,344 --> 02:17:35,241
who had a huge naked love
scene in "The Howling",

2870
02:17:35,241 --> 02:17:37,896
and he expected me to
be just fine with it,

2871
02:17:37,896 --> 02:17:39,448
thank you very much.

2872
02:17:40,448 --> 02:17:41,620
But, you know.

2873
02:17:41,620 --> 02:17:45,344
That's a man for you.

2874
02:18:01,655 --> 02:18:03,000
Rubin Galindo Jr.

2875
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:04,206
He's awesome!

2876
02:18:04,206 --> 02:18:06,896
Rubin has an amazing
lineup of movies,

2877
02:18:06,896 --> 02:18:09,137
and he really made
a stamp in the 80s.

2878
02:18:10,310 --> 02:18:14,275
Rubin,

2879
02:18:20,724 --> 02:18:23,620
The difference between
the Mexican horror films,

2880
02:18:23,620 --> 02:18:25,241
and international horror films,

2881
02:18:25,241 --> 02:18:29,310
we like to mix a little
bit of spirituality,

2882
02:18:29,310 --> 02:18:32,413
and to let some
things to the unknown.

2883
02:18:32,413 --> 02:18:35,137
We don't tend to try to explain.

2884
02:18:37,517 --> 02:18:39,896
My dad did Luchador films,

2885
02:18:39,896 --> 02:18:41,275
with monsters films.

2886
02:18:41,275 --> 02:18:43,689
"El Santo Contra Los
Asesinos De Ostros Mundos".

2887
02:18:43,689 --> 02:18:47,241
The saint against killers
from other worlds.

2888
02:18:50,310 --> 02:18:51,931
It's beautiful.

2889
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:58,482
Michael Jackson's "Thriller".

2890
02:18:58,482 --> 02:19:00,413
That struck me hard,

2891
02:19:00,413 --> 02:19:03,137
and then one day,
my dad told me,

2892
02:19:03,137 --> 02:19:04,896
would you think it's a good idea

2893
02:19:04,896 --> 02:19:07,206
to make a film like Michael
Jackson's "Thriller"?

2894
02:19:07,206 --> 02:19:08,241
I said, yes!

2895
02:19:08,241 --> 02:19:09,448
It's a great idea!

2896
02:19:09,448 --> 02:19:10,586
I wanna do that!

2897
02:19:15,310 --> 02:19:16,586
It's a bunch of teenagers,

2898
02:19:16,586 --> 02:19:18,310
they wanna have
fun in Halloween.

2899
02:19:18,310 --> 02:19:21,000
They go to the morgue,
they steal a corpse,

2900
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:24,482
and they pretend to
do a demonic ritual.

2901
02:19:26,862 --> 02:19:29,586
They woke up the
demon inside, Devlon,

2902
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:32,793
who was a killer.

2903
02:19:40,482 --> 02:19:43,862
And all of the sudden,
Michael Jackson's "Thriller".

2904
02:19:43,862 --> 02:19:46,000
Pops
out of the tombs.

2905
02:19:48,034 --> 02:19:51,758
I felt very compromised
with the budget.

2906
02:19:51,758 --> 02:19:53,689
I had a hard time.

2907
02:19:56,172 --> 02:19:58,000
The lousiest effect of all

2908
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:00,655
is when the guy that
was taking a leak,

2909
02:20:00,655 --> 02:20:03,862
Alonso Garcia, finds
the girl lying all dead

2910
02:20:03,862 --> 02:20:05,241
with blood all over her,

2911
02:20:05,241 --> 02:20:08,275
and then there is a flying ax

2912
02:20:08,275 --> 02:20:09,896
that hits him in the face.

2913
02:20:11,068 --> 02:20:14,896
You could see that the
ax had a metal pole.

2914
02:20:14,896 --> 02:20:17,000
I wasn't looking
through the camera,

2915
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:20,000
because I was playing
the ax.

2916
02:20:21,586 --> 02:20:22,827
I think that's the charm.

2917
02:20:22,827 --> 02:20:25,517
It's kind of looking
at a kitsch art,

2918
02:20:25,517 --> 02:20:26,862
when you see a horror film

2919
02:20:26,862 --> 02:20:29,103
that was done with
such a low budget,

2920
02:20:29,103 --> 02:20:31,517
it's looking at like
an Ed Wood film.

2921
02:20:31,517 --> 02:20:33,206
The only guy that
believes in the film

2922
02:20:33,206 --> 02:20:36,344
is the director.

2923
02:20:46,241 --> 02:20:48,448
It's hard to say
what kind of influence

2924
02:20:48,448 --> 02:20:50,310
Stephen King had on movies,

2925
02:20:50,310 --> 02:20:52,931
because of so many
directors attempted

2926
02:20:52,931 --> 02:20:55,896
so many different kinds
of film, it's hard to say.

2927
02:20:55,896 --> 02:20:57,551
It depends on how
well done they are.

2928
02:20:57,551 --> 02:20:59,827
I know Stephen
King loves "Cujo".

2929
02:21:01,931 --> 02:21:05,000
Stephen
King's "Cat's Eye".

2930
02:21:06,413 --> 02:21:08,517
Capitalizing on the
popularity of "Creepshow',

2931
02:21:08,517 --> 02:21:10,379
and Stephen King in general,

2932
02:21:10,379 --> 02:21:12,000
the studios decided
they should make

2933
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:13,965
another horror anthology,

2934
02:21:13,965 --> 02:21:16,793
and that's how we
got "Cat's Eye".

2935
02:21:16,793 --> 02:21:19,379
"Cat's Eye" is
by Lewis Teague.

2936
02:21:19,379 --> 02:21:21,689
He'd done "Cujo" at the time.

2937
02:21:21,689 --> 02:21:24,275
It is also co-produced
by Milton Subotsky,

2938
02:21:24,275 --> 02:21:26,551
who was kind of the king
of anthology horror.

2939
02:21:27,965 --> 02:21:29,620
He's the guy who produced
Tales From the Crypt,

2940
02:21:29,620 --> 02:21:32,620
and Dr. Terror's House
of Horrors, and Asylum.

2941
02:21:33,758 --> 02:21:36,241
"Cat's Eye" is three stories,

2942
02:21:36,241 --> 02:21:37,931
two of which are taken
from Stephen King's

2943
02:21:37,931 --> 02:21:40,379
short story book, "Night Shift".

2944
02:21:40,379 --> 02:21:42,310
Watch for the "Cujo" and
"Christine" references

2945
02:21:42,310 --> 02:21:43,137
in the beginning.

2946
02:21:44,586 --> 02:21:46,758
The first segment is called
"Quitters Incorporated",

2947
02:21:46,758 --> 02:21:49,034
and it stars James Woods
as a guy who's trying

2948
02:21:49,034 --> 02:21:51,344
to quit smoking, and the
problem is what they do

2949
02:21:51,344 --> 02:21:55,137
to get you to quit smoking
is incredibly extreme.

2950
02:22:01,034 --> 02:22:03,034
The second segment
is "The Ledge".

2951
02:22:03,034 --> 02:22:04,517
This is about a rich guy played

2952
02:22:04,517 --> 02:22:05,586
by Kenneth McMillan,

2953
02:22:05,586 --> 02:22:07,103
who discovers that Robert Hayes

2954
02:22:07,103 --> 02:22:09,551
has been sleeping with his wife.

2955
02:22:09,551 --> 02:22:10,931
He tells him that if he makes it

2956
02:22:10,931 --> 02:22:13,413
all the way around the
building on this ledge,

2957
02:22:13,413 --> 02:22:15,862
that he can leave
and take his wife.

2958
02:22:15,862 --> 02:22:17,344
Boogie, boogie, boogie!

2959
02:22:19,137 --> 02:22:20,379
You bastard!

2960
02:22:20,379 --> 02:22:22,068
I just wanna keep
you on your toes!

2961
02:22:23,241 --> 02:22:24,482
The third story
was more or less

2962
02:22:24,482 --> 02:22:26,344
how the whole thing came about.

2963
02:22:26,344 --> 02:22:29,517
Producer Dino De Laurentiis
contacted Stephen King

2964
02:22:29,517 --> 02:22:31,344
and told him he wanted
him to write a story

2965
02:22:31,344 --> 02:22:33,965
specifically for Drew Barrymore,

2966
02:22:33,965 --> 02:22:36,482
because they had just worked
together on "Firestarter".

2967
02:22:36,482 --> 02:22:39,000
He wrote the script
in less than 24 hours.

2968
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:43,000
Help me!

2969
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:46,000
The movie's tied together
with this cat, The General,

2970
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:48,517
who's on his way to try
to protect Drew Barrymore

2971
02:22:48,517 --> 02:22:50,931
from a troll that's
living in her walls.

2972
02:22:55,827 --> 02:22:57,310
The troll's trying to
kill the little girl

2973
02:22:57,310 --> 02:22:59,655
by stealing her breath
while she sleeps.

2974
02:23:01,620 --> 02:23:03,689
Carlo Rambaldi
created the creature,

2975
02:23:03,689 --> 02:23:05,551
and it is very realistic.

2976
02:23:05,551 --> 02:23:08,793
The troll was a little
person in a suit.

2977
02:23:08,793 --> 02:23:11,655
They're doing puppetry, they're
doing forced perspective.

2978
02:23:11,655 --> 02:23:13,137
It's fantastic.

2979
02:23:13,137 --> 02:23:15,724
The movie actually is in the
Guinness Book of World Records

2980
02:23:15,724 --> 02:23:18,068
for making the
world's largest bed,

2981
02:23:18,068 --> 02:23:20,689
and the world's largest pillows.

2982
02:23:22,034 --> 02:23:24,000
I love how the record
player comes into play

2983
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:25,724
with this segment.

2984
02:23:25,724 --> 02:23:27,310
Watch out!

2985
02:23:30,965 --> 02:23:32,482
Anthologies are
kinda hit or miss,

2986
02:23:32,482 --> 02:23:35,724
but with this, I think all
three segments are strong,

2987
02:23:35,724 --> 02:23:39,000
with the last one, "The
General", being the strongest.

2988
02:23:40,551 --> 02:23:43,310
Anytime you have a movie
where a cat is a hero,

2989
02:23:43,310 --> 02:23:44,689
I am in.

2990
02:23:59,206 --> 02:24:00,965
"Phenomena",
from Dario Argento

2991
02:24:00,965 --> 02:24:04,517
is another sort of wildly
weird movie in itself.

2992
02:24:04,517 --> 02:24:06,000
When I first saw it,
I actually saw it

2993
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:07,275
as "The Creepers" version.

2994
02:24:07,275 --> 02:24:09,413
There's actually three
versions of the film.

2995
02:24:09,413 --> 02:24:11,448
"Phenomena" follows
Jennifer Connelly,

2996
02:24:11,448 --> 02:24:13,758
who's a young student
studying abroad,

2997
02:24:13,758 --> 02:24:17,275
who basically has a
psychic connection

2998
02:24:17,275 --> 02:24:18,655
with bugs, of all things,

2999
02:24:18,655 --> 02:24:21,241
and she comes across
Donald Pleasant,

3000
02:24:21,241 --> 02:24:24,482
who's an entomologist
that works with bugs

3001
02:24:24,482 --> 02:24:26,965
in a means to help solve crimes.

3002
02:24:26,965 --> 02:24:29,758
It is just like, is Argento
kind of of woke up one day,

3003
02:24:29,758 --> 02:24:32,448
and was picking
motifs out of a hat,

3004
02:24:32,448 --> 02:24:33,896
and was like,
here's "Phenomena",

3005
02:24:33,896 --> 02:24:35,586
but yet somehow it all works,

3006
02:24:35,586 --> 02:24:37,206
and I think a lot
of credit is due

3007
02:24:37,206 --> 02:24:39,172
to Jennifer Connolly's
performance.

3008
02:24:39,172 --> 02:24:40,034
Don't touch it!

3009
02:24:40,034 --> 02:24:40,965
Stop yelling!

3010
02:24:40,965 --> 02:24:41,827
It's a bee!

3011
02:24:41,827 --> 02:24:42,655
I know.

3012
02:24:42,655 --> 02:24:44,655
It won't hurt me.

3013
02:24:44,655 --> 02:24:46,206
Insects never hurt me.

3014
02:24:46,206 --> 02:24:48,965
Donald Pleasant is
always a welcome addition

3015
02:24:48,965 --> 02:24:50,448
to any cast.

3016
02:24:50,448 --> 02:24:52,586
You're in a position to
do extraordinary things

3017
02:24:53,931 --> 02:24:55,379
with that gift of yours.

3018
02:24:55,379 --> 02:24:58,000
Daria Nicolodi, who had worked
so many times with Argento.

3019
02:24:58,000 --> 02:24:59,344
It's one of the first instances

3020
02:24:59,344 --> 02:25:01,862
I can remember her being
a villain in a movie.

3021
02:25:01,862 --> 02:25:04,068
And she's so great in it.

3022
02:25:08,689 --> 02:25:10,206
Inga is the chimpanzee,

3023
02:25:10,206 --> 02:25:13,379
who is the assistant to
McGreggor in the movie.

3024
02:25:13,379 --> 02:25:15,620
And she is a delight.

3025
02:25:15,620 --> 02:25:16,931
Early on in the
movie, there's a point

3026
02:25:16,931 --> 02:25:18,206
where she's playing
with a scalpel,

3027
02:25:18,206 --> 02:25:19,965
and he's like, Inga.

3028
02:25:19,965 --> 02:25:21,413
I don't want you ever,

3029
02:25:21,413 --> 02:25:24,689
I don't want you ever, ever
playing with this again.

3030
02:25:26,137 --> 02:25:28,241
That moment has a payoff
in the end that I won't ruin.

3031
02:25:28,241 --> 02:25:31,689
But Inga actually becomes your
favorite part of the movie.

3032
02:25:33,379 --> 02:25:34,965
The "Phenomena" soundtrack
is a lot of fun,

3033
02:25:34,965 --> 02:25:38,172
because it marries contemporary
music of that time,

3034
02:25:38,172 --> 02:25:39,896
especially heavy metal music,

3035
02:25:39,896 --> 02:25:43,413
with these traditional
score from Goblin.

3036
02:25:50,344 --> 02:25:52,241
It's really interesting
that it's specifically

3037
02:25:52,241 --> 02:25:56,551
in "Phenomena" that Argenta
would use heavy metal music

3038
02:25:56,551 --> 02:26:01,551
in these weird ways that
shouldn't work, and yet it does.

3039
02:26:02,758 --> 02:26:04,310
♪ The smell of
resigned leather ♪

3040
02:26:04,310 --> 02:26:06,344
♪ The sticky iron mask

3041
02:26:06,344 --> 02:26:07,586
♪ As you cut and thrust

3042
02:26:07,586 --> 02:26:08,827
♪ And parried at the fencing

3043
02:26:08,827 --> 02:26:10,689
Particularly during
the kill scenes.

3044
02:26:10,689 --> 02:26:12,517
It actually heightens
the tensions,

3045
02:26:12,517 --> 02:26:14,000
in those scenes in particular,

3046
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:16,413
and makes them play in
a very different way

3047
02:26:16,413 --> 02:26:17,793
than I think you see
contemporary music

3048
02:26:17,793 --> 02:26:19,517
played in American horror.

3049
02:26:30,241 --> 02:26:31,724
What you love is the feeling

3050
02:26:31,724 --> 02:26:33,931
when you're stomping out life.

3051
02:26:35,137 --> 02:26:38,000
"The
Doctor and the Devils".

3052
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:39,413
"The Doctor and the Devils",

3053
02:26:39,413 --> 02:26:42,689
this is a classic British
gothic horror story.

3054
02:26:42,689 --> 02:26:45,310
Quite lavish, quite
beautiful to look at.

3055
02:26:45,310 --> 02:26:49,482
What now would they be
doing for a living, lovey?

3056
02:26:49,482 --> 02:26:51,068
Grave robbers.

3057
02:26:51,068 --> 02:26:52,793
It's definitely one
that seems to be missed

3058
02:26:52,793 --> 02:26:55,034
off a lot of lists of
best British horror films.

3059
02:26:55,034 --> 02:26:56,379
Before we disturbed his sleep.

3060
02:26:56,379 --> 02:26:58,655
It's crawling with maggots.

3061
02:26:58,655 --> 02:27:00,517
I need fresh subjects.

3062
02:27:00,517 --> 02:27:02,103
Specimens that I can teach with.

3063
02:27:02,103 --> 02:27:04,344
This is, in fact,
a decent movie

3064
02:27:04,344 --> 02:27:06,655
with a great cast,
and a good story.

3065
02:27:06,655 --> 02:27:07,965
And I believe that that end

3066
02:27:08,896 --> 02:27:11,000
justifies any means.

3067
02:27:13,620 --> 02:27:17,172
And it stars some amazing
British actors and actresses.

3068
02:27:17,172 --> 02:27:19,206
Dr. Rock needs fresh bodies.

3069
02:27:19,206 --> 02:27:20,241
Could we pay them, sir?

3070
02:27:20,241 --> 02:27:21,689
Only half.

3071
02:27:21,689 --> 02:27:24,793
Julien Sands, Jonathan
Pryce, Stephen Rea and Twiggy.

3072
02:27:24,793 --> 02:27:27,620
It was amazing to see
Timothy Dalton in it.

3073
02:27:27,620 --> 02:27:29,931
We're scientists,
not moralists.

3074
02:27:30,793 --> 02:27:32,517
I need bodies.

3075
02:27:32,517 --> 02:27:33,965
They're not called
Burke and Hare,

3076
02:27:33,965 --> 02:27:35,413
but they're kind of
analogs of Burke and Hare.

3077
02:27:36,344 --> 02:27:38,379
Quiet as death tonight.

3078
02:27:38,379 --> 02:27:39,620
Praise be the Lord.

3079
02:27:39,620 --> 02:27:40,896
For those that don't
know, Burke and Hare

3080
02:27:40,896 --> 02:27:43,448
is the story of
two grave robbers

3081
02:27:43,448 --> 02:27:44,793
who used to steal dead bodies.

3082
02:27:44,793 --> 02:27:46,034
And it's a true story.

3083
02:27:46,034 --> 02:27:48,034
Steal dead bodies and
sell them for profit.

3084
02:27:48,034 --> 02:27:49,551
And when the dead
bodies run out,

3085
02:27:49,551 --> 02:27:52,000
they start killing
actual alive people,

3086
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:53,586
and selling them on.

3087
02:27:53,586 --> 02:27:56,000
Quite the
benefactors, the dead.

3088
02:27:57,413 --> 02:27:59,931
Their story kind of spins
out on the head a little bit.

3089
02:27:59,931 --> 02:28:02,275
Put them out of their
misery, Mr. Fallon!

3090
02:28:02,275 --> 02:28:03,793
That's what the
major said to me.

3091
02:28:03,793 --> 02:28:05,862
Pryce, quite unhinged in
the characters he does play,

3092
02:28:05,862 --> 02:28:07,896
and he looks evil, as well.

3093
02:28:07,896 --> 02:28:08,724
Fresh, Broom.

3094
02:28:09,724 --> 02:28:11,034
Fresh as new moon here.

3095
02:28:12,379 --> 02:28:14,482
This film was directed
by Freddie Francis,

3096
02:28:14,482 --> 02:28:16,517
who you may know made his start

3097
02:28:16,517 --> 02:28:18,379
with Amicus and Hammer,

3098
02:28:18,379 --> 02:28:21,000
doing some great
gothic horror for them.

3099
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:22,758
And this is kind of a
continuation of that.

3100
02:28:22,758 --> 02:28:24,724
And you can see a lot
of the things he learned

3101
02:28:24,724 --> 02:28:26,137
with Amicus and Hammer,

3102
02:28:26,137 --> 02:28:29,689
the kind of level of detail
in the period pieces,

3103
02:28:29,689 --> 02:28:31,965
in the architecture,
in the costumes.

3104
02:28:31,965 --> 02:28:33,413
And that kind of gothic horror,

3105
02:28:33,413 --> 02:28:36,310
where you don't necessarily
need to see the killing.

3106
02:28:36,310 --> 02:28:39,379
Fresh bodies, fresh
bodies, fresh bodies.

3107
02:28:39,379 --> 02:28:41,241
You may just see a
shadow on the wall,

3108
02:28:41,241 --> 02:28:43,482
or the aftermath, just
that beautiful girl's

3109
02:28:43,482 --> 02:28:44,448
blood on her mouth.

3110
02:28:46,275 --> 02:28:48,206
The ultimate message in
"The Doctor and the Devils"

3111
02:28:48,206 --> 02:28:50,482
is if you want something
done, do it yourself.

3112
02:28:50,482 --> 02:28:51,965
But it's really well-done,

3113
02:28:51,965 --> 02:28:54,068
and I was actually surprised
how well this holds up.

3114
02:28:54,068 --> 02:28:56,586
This city has a
heart of goodness.

3115
02:28:56,586 --> 02:28:59,034
And the bowels of squalor.

3116
02:29:04,620 --> 02:29:05,793
For
a good time, call-

3117
02:29:05,793 --> 02:29:08,551
"Transylvania 6-5000".

3118
02:29:09,586 --> 02:29:11,379
Is good, huh?

3119
02:29:11,379 --> 02:29:14,793
"Transylvania 6-5000" is
an incredibly underrated

3120
02:29:14,793 --> 02:29:18,000
horror comedy, or should
I say comedy horror,

3121
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:19,413
from the 80s.

3122
02:29:19,413 --> 02:29:22,310
It's got a lot of
really fun moments.

3123
02:29:22,310 --> 02:29:24,379
And the whole movie
just has this uplifting

3124
02:29:24,379 --> 02:29:26,517
jovial feeling to it.

3125
02:29:26,517 --> 02:29:27,724
Ah, Radu.

3126
02:29:27,724 --> 02:29:29,137
Yes, master?

3127
02:29:29,137 --> 02:29:30,482
Everybody involved
looks like they're having

3128
02:29:30,482 --> 02:29:31,896
an absolute blast.

3129
02:29:31,896 --> 02:29:35,034
You've got Ed Begley
Jr., Jeff Goldblum.

3130
02:29:35,034 --> 02:29:36,241
Every time I give you-

3131
02:29:36,241 --> 02:29:37,793
Two reporters
from a rag newspaper

3132
02:29:37,793 --> 02:29:40,655
are headed to Transylvania
to try to find Frankenstein.

3133
02:29:40,655 --> 02:29:43,724
So I'm counting on you guys
for a Frankenstein story.

3134
02:29:43,724 --> 02:29:45,827
I'm sorry, you're counting
on us for a what story?

3135
02:29:45,827 --> 02:29:47,862
My favorite part is
when they first arrive

3136
02:29:47,862 --> 02:29:51,551
in Transylvania, and they
ask a point blank question,

3137
02:29:51,551 --> 02:29:54,000
hey, where can we
find Frankenstein.

3138
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:56,379
Frankenstein, you know
Frankenstein don't you?

3139
02:29:57,310 --> 02:29:58,103
Frankenstein?

3140
02:29:58,103 --> 02:29:59,137
Yes, the monster.

3141
02:29:59,137 --> 02:30:00,413
Ah.

3142
02:30:00,413 --> 02:30:01,758
Instead of just
laughing them off,

3143
02:30:01,758 --> 02:30:04,931
they drag it off
and humiliate them.

3144
02:30:04,931 --> 02:30:06,413
And then they get the
mayor to come out,

3145
02:30:06,413 --> 02:30:08,310
played by Jeffrey Jones,

3146
02:30:08,310 --> 02:30:10,551
and with the straightest
face possible,

3147
02:30:10,551 --> 02:30:14,724
says gentlemen, we're
in Transylvania.

3148
02:30:15,931 --> 02:30:18,275
Don't you want to
ask us about Dracula?

3149
02:30:19,758 --> 02:30:21,862
And then just
bursts out laughing.

3150
02:30:23,068 --> 02:30:24,000
I've got Godzilla
in the back room.

3151
02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:25,862
I like it, it's a good one.

3152
02:30:25,862 --> 02:30:27,172
How about the Blob?

3153
02:30:28,379 --> 02:30:29,758
It wouldn't be much
of a monster movie

3154
02:30:29,758 --> 02:30:32,689
without the monsters
actually showing up.

3155
02:30:32,689 --> 02:30:35,448
You got the mummy, a
Frankenstein monster,

3156
02:30:35,448 --> 02:30:38,172
a werewolf who looks
like Chewbacca.

3157
02:30:38,172 --> 02:30:39,862
Geena Davis as a vampire.

3158
02:30:39,862 --> 02:30:41,758
And then there's Kramer,
Michael Richards,

3159
02:30:41,758 --> 02:30:43,862
playing an Igor type.

3160
02:30:45,655 --> 02:30:46,758
Is good, huh?

3161
02:30:46,758 --> 02:30:47,896
Is funny!

3162
02:30:47,896 --> 02:30:49,517
Wearing funny goggles,

3163
02:30:49,517 --> 02:30:52,206
riding a mechanical
animal in a closet,

3164
02:30:52,206 --> 02:30:54,000
and slipping on banana peels.

3165
02:30:55,103 --> 02:30:57,344
Look, it's a
beautiful day today!

3166
02:30:57,344 --> 02:30:58,241
Whoa!

3167
02:30:58,241 --> 02:30:59,000
- Hey, hey!
- Oh!

3168
02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:00,551
Are you okay?

3169
02:31:00,551 --> 02:31:01,827
This one would make for
a wonderful double feature

3170
02:31:01,827 --> 02:31:03,413
with "Saturday the 14th".

3171
02:31:03,413 --> 02:31:06,068
They both have the same
kind of sophomoric humor.

3172
02:31:09,724 --> 02:31:11,448
And fun creature effects.

3173
02:31:28,896 --> 02:31:31,000
"Guinea Pig:
Devil's Experiment".

3174
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:32,517
This is a found footage movie

3175
02:31:32,517 --> 02:31:34,310
in the faux documentary style.

3176
02:31:34,310 --> 02:31:37,103
It has title cards,
has an end card,

3177
02:31:37,103 --> 02:31:39,655
it's separated
into acts, almost.

3178
02:31:41,448 --> 02:31:44,241
It is about three guys
abusing this woman

3179
02:31:44,241 --> 02:31:47,724
in sequentially horrible ways.

3180
02:31:49,931 --> 02:31:52,655
And is absolutely gruesome.

3181
02:31:52,655 --> 02:31:54,793
And really effective,
because it's done in a way

3182
02:31:54,793 --> 02:31:57,758
where it does feel
the closest you'll see

3183
02:31:57,758 --> 02:31:59,482
to seeing a snuff movie.

3184
02:31:59,482 --> 02:32:02,000
It was made by Satoru Ogura,

3185
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:04,000
who wrote and
directed it in 1985.

3186
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:05,586
And the effects are inventive,

3187
02:32:05,586 --> 02:32:07,137
but it's not something
you can just sit down

3188
02:32:07,137 --> 02:32:08,896
with a packet of
crisps and eat it,

3189
02:32:08,896 --> 02:32:10,896
because you'll be
so grossed out.

3190
02:32:10,896 --> 02:32:12,482
It's a really interesting movie

3191
02:32:12,482 --> 02:32:15,310
that I wouldn't recommend
to too many people,

3192
02:32:15,310 --> 02:32:18,793
but I will say, the
sequels get more and more

3193
02:32:18,793 --> 02:32:20,344
and more interesting.

3194
02:32:20,344 --> 02:32:23,000
I am absolutely obsessed

3195
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:25,517
by "Guinea Pig 5:
Mermaid in a Manhole".

3196
02:32:25,517 --> 02:32:27,862
That movie manages to
keep the grossness,

3197
02:32:27,862 --> 02:32:31,103
but add a really
heartfelt story in it.

3198
02:32:31,103 --> 02:32:33,896
In the first one, there was
absolutely no redemption

3199
02:32:33,896 --> 02:32:35,241
for these characters.

3200
02:32:35,241 --> 02:32:38,000
But in the later ones,
they give the characters

3201
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:40,448
a little bit more
layers to them.

3202
02:32:40,448 --> 02:32:42,551
But they're still
doing the wrong things.

3203
02:32:42,551 --> 02:32:44,000
Women still end up dying,

3204
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:46,275
people still end
up being tortured,

3205
02:32:46,275 --> 02:32:48,482
and even in my favorite
moment in "The Manhole",

3206
02:32:48,482 --> 02:32:49,965
he thinks he's doing
the right thing

3207
02:32:49,965 --> 02:32:52,137
by saving this
mermaid in the sewer,

3208
02:32:52,137 --> 02:32:54,793
but he is effectively
taken her out of her home,

3209
02:32:54,793 --> 02:32:57,103
and is slowly killing
her for the sake of art.

3210
02:32:58,517 --> 02:33:01,137
These "Guinea Pig" movies
are kind of notorious

3211
02:33:01,137 --> 02:33:03,551
as being the precursors
to torture porn.

3212
02:33:03,551 --> 02:33:05,689
Things like "Hostel",
things like that.

3213
02:33:10,724 --> 02:33:11,931
And I don't really
see that type of movie

3214
02:33:11,931 --> 02:33:14,620
coming back again,
because I think it was

3215
02:33:14,620 --> 02:33:18,241
really surrounding VHS,
and the ability to share

3216
02:33:18,241 --> 02:33:19,620
horrific images with people,

3217
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:21,103
which you can do at
the touch of a button

3218
02:33:21,103 --> 02:33:22,551
with the internet now,

3219
02:33:22,551 --> 02:33:24,482
but back then, the feeling
of having something

3220
02:33:24,482 --> 02:33:27,275
that you shouldn't
have, a snuff movie,

3221
02:33:27,275 --> 02:33:29,793
and passing that around,
is really the reason

3222
02:33:29,793 --> 02:33:31,965
why there's so many
"Guinea Pig" movies,

3223
02:33:31,965 --> 02:33:34,310
and that's why also the
"Faces of Death" movies

3224
02:33:34,310 --> 02:33:36,758
in the western world
were so popular.

3225
02:33:50,034 --> 02:33:52,000
Spielberg once said to me

3226
02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:55,827
I would love to make a
really vicious horror movie.

3227
02:33:55,827 --> 02:33:59,379
You wouldn't believe some
of the dark ideas I have

3228
02:33:59,379 --> 02:34:02,620
that would probably
challenge Cronenberg

3229
02:34:02,620 --> 02:34:07,068
as far as going the
distance in shocking stuff.

3230
02:34:07,068 --> 02:34:09,724
But I can't do that
because of who I am.

3231
02:34:09,724 --> 02:34:12,000
That was when he was best known

3232
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:13,551
for "E.T." and "Poltergeist",

3233
02:34:13,551 --> 02:34:15,586
and more family friendly stuff.

3234
02:34:15,586 --> 02:34:18,000
He felt that that
put him in a box

3235
02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:20,896
that didn't allow him to
go to the other distance.

3236
02:34:22,551 --> 02:34:25,103
The most impactful
horror films

3237
02:34:25,103 --> 02:34:27,586
will always come from some guy

3238
02:34:27,586 --> 02:34:30,206
in the middle of nowhere
with a bunch of friends

3239
02:34:30,206 --> 02:34:33,000
who've made a movie,
and it's really cool,

3240
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:35,000
and is a huge success.

3241
02:34:37,793 --> 02:34:41,275
As soon as you have
a committee involved

3242
02:34:41,275 --> 02:34:43,862
in making a horror
film, it never works.

3243
02:34:43,862 --> 02:34:45,310
It's not a committee.

3244
02:34:45,310 --> 02:34:47,448
It's a singular vision.

3245
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:51,034
Too many bones.

3246
02:34:51,034 --> 02:34:54,000
When you have one person
with one clear vision,

3247
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:55,586
that comes through
in the final product.

3248
02:34:55,586 --> 02:34:57,689
So it's an important thing
that there is a director

3249
02:34:57,689 --> 02:35:00,275
that sees it through
from start to finish.

3250
02:35:00,275 --> 02:35:02,206
The lower the budget,
the more creative

3251
02:35:02,206 --> 02:35:04,827
a filmmaker can get to
realize their vision.

3252
02:35:06,241 --> 02:35:08,931
You just have to keep
everything in perspective.

3253
02:35:08,931 --> 02:35:10,034
We're making movies.

3254
02:35:10,034 --> 02:35:11,551
We're doing what we love.

3255
02:35:11,551 --> 02:35:14,275
I said I think my
ears are gonna explode.

3256
02:35:17,655 --> 02:35:19,482
I think that's really
an important part

3257
02:35:19,482 --> 02:35:20,413
of being a filmmaker.

3258
02:35:20,413 --> 02:35:22,000
I wanted to affect something.

3259
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:24,689
And that at the
tenacity of the finish.

3260
02:35:24,689 --> 02:35:25,896
That's the whole thing.

3261
02:35:25,896 --> 02:35:28,379
Most people quit when
things get rough.

3262
02:35:28,379 --> 02:35:30,724
And they always get
rough.

3263
02:35:30,724 --> 02:35:34,068
Really the best directors
I've ever worked with,

3264
02:35:34,068 --> 02:35:36,448
they hire the right people.

3265
02:35:36,448 --> 02:35:38,965
And they trust their talent.

3266
02:35:40,275 --> 02:35:43,517
When I think about the
three great directors

3267
02:35:43,517 --> 02:35:46,241
that I've worked with,
the ones that come to mind

3268
02:35:46,241 --> 02:35:49,482
are John Carpenter, George
Romero, and Wes Craven.

3269
02:35:49,482 --> 02:35:51,172
They have a bunch
of things in common.

3270
02:35:51,172 --> 02:35:53,689
They all knew exactly
what they wanted.

3271
02:35:53,689 --> 02:35:57,000
And all three of them
kept a very calm,

3272
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,827
very supportive set,
a very happy set.

3273
02:36:01,827 --> 02:36:04,413
Playing mind games,
that's not the way

3274
02:36:04,413 --> 02:36:06,448
those three men directed.

3275
02:36:06,448 --> 02:36:07,379
Cut.

3276
02:36:07,379 --> 02:36:08,586
Prints, thank you.

3277
02:36:08,586 --> 02:36:10,103
I would argue
that John Carpenter

3278
02:36:10,103 --> 02:36:11,655
was probably the most underrated

3279
02:36:11,655 --> 02:36:14,517
great American filmmaker ever.

3280
02:36:18,103 --> 02:36:20,310
And he's not probably
largely viewed that way

3281
02:36:20,310 --> 02:36:22,172
by people who should
view him that way.

3282
02:36:22,172 --> 02:36:23,793
He's certainly very
revered by most people

3283
02:36:23,793 --> 02:36:25,413
who like horror,
but he's much more

3284
02:36:25,413 --> 02:36:27,241
than a horror filmmaker.

3285
02:36:27,241 --> 02:36:29,068
Cronenberg, because
he was headier,

3286
02:36:29,068 --> 02:36:31,379
I think got more due,
and more acceptance

3287
02:36:31,379 --> 02:36:33,413
by the snobbier film community.

3288
02:36:35,413 --> 02:36:39,034
The relationship between
humanity and physicality

3289
02:36:39,034 --> 02:36:41,344
is something that
Cronenberg explores a lot,

3290
02:36:41,344 --> 02:36:45,000
whether it's "eXitenZ",
or "Rabid", or "Shivers".

3291
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:46,206
"The Fly".

3292
02:36:46,206 --> 02:36:49,482
He regurgitates on
his food, it liquefies,

3293
02:36:49,482 --> 02:36:51,000
and then he sucks it back up.

3294
02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:53,000
It's a theme that he
would come back to a lot

3295
02:36:54,724 --> 02:36:55,965
Oh my god.

3296
02:36:58,068 --> 02:37:01,068
John Carpenter's biggest
influence on 1980s horror

3297
02:37:01,068 --> 02:37:03,827
was "Halloween" from 1978.

3298
02:37:03,827 --> 02:37:07,034
That really kicked
off the slasher boom.

3299
02:37:07,034 --> 02:37:10,000
And paved the way for
so many copycats after.

3300
02:37:15,103 --> 02:37:18,517
His legacy is that the
genre was taken seriously,

3301
02:37:18,517 --> 02:37:20,310
and he wanted to
give the audience,

3302
02:37:20,310 --> 02:37:23,068
not just a thrill, but
just show how movie making

3303
02:37:23,068 --> 02:37:24,275
can be an experience.

3304
02:37:25,758 --> 02:37:28,172
♪ Just the two of us

3305
02:37:28,172 --> 02:37:30,689
I didn't watch as
many horror films

3306
02:37:30,689 --> 02:37:32,862
as I should have during the 80s

3307
02:37:32,862 --> 02:37:34,344
because I was so busy.

3308
02:37:34,344 --> 02:37:38,137
But I remember a lot of the
movies I saw in the 70s,

3309
02:37:38,137 --> 02:37:41,724
"The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre" being a big one.

3310
02:37:41,724 --> 02:37:42,862
I loved that movie.

3311
02:37:44,413 --> 02:37:46,344
Tobe was a close friend.

3312
02:37:46,344 --> 02:37:48,620
Really upset by the
passing of Tobe.

3313
02:37:48,620 --> 02:37:50,793
A very sweet man.

3314
02:37:50,793 --> 02:37:53,344
Really wonderful guy.

3315
02:37:53,344 --> 02:37:56,862
He made the cinematic
experience for moviegoers

3316
02:37:56,862 --> 02:38:00,448
a lot more brutal I think
than they were used to.

3317
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:06,344
The two greatest movies
that Tobe Hooper made,

3318
02:38:06,344 --> 02:38:08,689
"The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre", and "Poltergeist",

3319
02:38:08,689 --> 02:38:11,000
were both used against
him to say well,

3320
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:13,896
he didn't direct one, and
the other one is crap.

3321
02:38:13,896 --> 02:38:16,413
And so he struggled
his whole life

3322
02:38:16,413 --> 02:38:19,344
to become more
accepted as a director.

3323
02:38:22,206 --> 02:38:25,310
I feel like every
movie Wes Craven makes

3324
02:38:25,310 --> 02:38:28,758
was like a statement
piece, was groundbreaking,

3325
02:38:28,758 --> 02:38:30,275
wasn't like oh,
here's a horror movie.

3326
02:38:30,275 --> 02:38:33,034
It was like, this
has changed the face

3327
02:38:33,034 --> 02:38:34,586
of what we're watching today.

3328
02:38:38,551 --> 02:38:40,758
He was making films
and having a blast.

3329
02:38:40,758 --> 02:38:45,275
He was very kind of, in the
New York intellectual scene.

3330
02:38:45,275 --> 02:38:47,896
Night and day different,

3331
02:38:47,896 --> 02:38:50,793
were Wes Craven's
movies and who he was.

3332
02:38:52,689 --> 02:38:54,758
George Romero,
for someone who made

3333
02:38:54,758 --> 02:38:59,448
such really creepy,
disturbing films,

3334
02:38:59,448 --> 02:39:01,275
he was such a bear.

3335
02:39:01,275 --> 02:39:05,517
Just a cuddly, sweet,
delightful presence.

3336
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:09,551
My god.

3337
02:39:09,551 --> 02:39:12,862
George was a master, and he
was always ahead of his time.

3338
02:39:12,862 --> 02:39:15,448
That's what was so remarkable
about George's films.

3339
02:39:15,448 --> 02:39:18,551
They get better and
better with age.

3340
02:39:25,241 --> 02:39:29,000
Dario Argento, he was
consistently impressive

3341
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:31,965
as a filmmaker, right up to
and including "Two Evil Eyes".

3342
02:39:34,827 --> 02:39:36,724
What's special about Dario

3343
02:39:36,724 --> 02:39:40,103
is his operatic
style of filmmaking.

3344
02:39:40,103 --> 02:39:42,137
He revels in murder.

3345
02:39:44,413 --> 02:39:47,413
He has a fetish for creating

3346
02:39:47,413 --> 02:39:50,310
these amazing murder set pieces.

3347
02:39:58,517 --> 02:40:00,551
Steward Gordon
was a provocateur.

3348
02:40:00,551 --> 02:40:04,620
He liked to make movies that
really provoked a reaction.

3349
02:40:07,448 --> 02:40:10,620
Stewart was the
king of the party.

3350
02:40:10,620 --> 02:40:15,620
He made sure that everything
was big and bold and body.

3351
02:40:19,517 --> 02:40:21,034
He has a different personality

3352
02:40:21,034 --> 02:40:22,620
with pretty much
every movie he does.

3353
02:40:22,620 --> 02:40:24,379
"Dagon" has a
different personality.

3354
02:40:24,379 --> 02:40:26,482
"Dolls" has a
different personality.

3355
02:40:26,482 --> 02:40:28,310
"Stuck" has a
different personality.

3356
02:40:28,310 --> 02:40:31,241
"Castle Freak", everything's
a little different.

3357
02:40:37,482 --> 02:40:39,931
Kathryn Bigelow,
in my estimation,

3358
02:40:39,931 --> 02:40:42,724
Mary Lambert, they broke
the mold a little bit.

3359
02:40:42,724 --> 02:40:44,413
They were very bold.

3360
02:40:44,413 --> 02:40:46,206
I think they knew they
were gonna be able

3361
02:40:46,206 --> 02:40:48,965
to find advocacy within
the studio system.

3362
02:40:48,965 --> 02:40:50,793
I think they had
that confidence.

3363
02:40:50,793 --> 02:40:54,206
And that confidence radiates
from those products.

3364
02:40:55,448 --> 02:40:59,103
Fasten your fucking
seatbelt!

3365
02:40:59,103 --> 02:41:03,448
It was very, very
difficult for women directors

3366
02:41:03,448 --> 02:41:06,000
to either put together
a film themselves,

3367
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:09,344
or to get a job
directing any film.

3368
02:41:09,344 --> 02:41:12,275
Well come on, baby!

3369
02:41:12,275 --> 02:41:13,724
Light my fire.

3370
02:41:13,724 --> 02:41:16,172
Now it's opened a lot more.

3371
02:41:16,172 --> 02:41:18,310
But we have a lot to
ground to make up.

3372
02:41:18,310 --> 02:41:19,931
It was bad.

3373
02:41:19,931 --> 02:41:22,034
We're not as far
along as we should be.

3374
02:41:22,034 --> 02:41:23,206
Let's just put it that way.

3375
02:41:23,206 --> 02:41:25,206
We have to get to a point

3376
02:41:25,206 --> 02:41:27,275
where women are not labeled

3377
02:41:27,275 --> 02:41:31,344
as female filmmaker, or like me,

3378
02:41:31,344 --> 02:41:34,137
Mexican-Canadian,
blah-blah-blah, filmmaker.

3379
02:41:34,137 --> 02:41:35,379
Like, you can have
all the labels.

3380
02:41:35,379 --> 02:41:37,689
My last name's
already long enough.

3381
02:41:37,689 --> 02:41:41,172
I just want us to be
recognized as a good filmmaker,

3382
02:41:41,172 --> 02:41:45,000
and it's taken all this
time to finally get here.

3383
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:48,689
But it's our responsibility
as storytellers

3384
02:41:48,689 --> 02:41:52,000
to challenge audiences,
and to challenge studios

3385
02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:52,827
to accept that.

3386
02:41:52,827 --> 02:41:55,448
Welcome to our house!

3387
02:41:57,172 --> 02:41:58,620
Puta!

3388
02:41:59,551 --> 02:42:00,793
We'll keep working hard.

3389
02:42:00,793 --> 02:42:02,551
And we'll keep
challenging everybody

3390
02:42:02,551 --> 02:42:05,689
that watches our
movies to accept it.

3391
02:42:19,034 --> 02:42:20,896
The Puttermans
finally got themselves

3392
02:42:20,896 --> 02:42:24,655
a pet, but they never even had
a chance to give it a name.

3393
02:42:25,931 --> 02:42:27,137
"TerrorVision".

3394
02:42:27,137 --> 02:42:28,482
"TerrorVision" was one
of the movies we made

3395
02:42:28,482 --> 02:42:30,551
during those amazing
three years or so

3396
02:42:30,551 --> 02:42:33,241
at Empire Studios
in Rome, Italy.

3397
02:42:33,241 --> 02:42:35,827
That's when that, you know
you conceive something,

3398
02:42:35,827 --> 02:42:37,448
you have a great poster,

3399
02:42:37,448 --> 02:42:40,172
and then it morphs into
something entirely different.

3400
02:42:47,862 --> 02:42:49,103
It was originally gonna be
a straight up horror movie

3401
02:42:49,103 --> 02:42:50,931
that this monster
comes out of the TV

3402
02:42:50,931 --> 02:42:52,965
and eats the family.

3403
02:42:54,206 --> 02:42:57,551
But Ted had this kind of
strange dark humor, and-

3404
02:43:01,758 --> 02:43:02,689
Whoa!

3405
02:43:02,689 --> 02:43:03,931
I just kind of pondered

3406
02:43:03,931 --> 02:43:06,931
how to make a monster coming out

3407
02:43:06,931 --> 02:43:10,931
of a satellite dish, have some
kind of social commentary.

3408
02:43:10,931 --> 02:43:13,068
You must heed my warning!

3409
02:43:13,068 --> 02:43:15,586
Its appetite is insatiable!

3410
02:43:15,586 --> 02:43:17,965
Its curiosity is boundless!

3411
02:43:17,965 --> 02:43:21,448
I had to capture
this moment of the 80s

3412
02:43:21,448 --> 02:43:25,896
about the overwhelming
garbage of television.

3413
02:43:26,724 --> 02:43:29,482
Channel 69, Pops.

3414
02:43:29,482 --> 02:43:31,000
Stanley!

3415
02:43:31,000 --> 02:43:34,931
Man, it exploded into this
technicolor kind of wildness.

3416
02:43:34,931 --> 02:43:36,413
Look out!

3417
02:43:36,413 --> 02:43:38,931
To the film's credit,
or maybe its detriment,

3418
02:43:38,931 --> 02:43:41,517
I don't know, I made
these characters

3419
02:43:41,517 --> 02:43:43,724
that are sort of
really reprehensible.

3420
02:43:43,724 --> 02:43:45,275
My parents wanna meet you.

3421
02:43:46,517 --> 02:43:47,344
Oh, whoa.

3422
02:43:47,344 --> 02:43:49,034
What a drag.

3423
02:43:49,034 --> 02:43:51,931
I wanted our monster in
"TerrorVision", Hungry Beast,

3424
02:43:51,931 --> 02:43:54,620
to be a sympathetic character.

3425
02:43:56,758 --> 02:43:59,862
Well, he's just a pet
who really couldn't help

3426
02:43:59,862 --> 02:44:01,172
that he was hungry.

3427
02:44:02,862 --> 02:44:05,034
John Buechler and his crew

3428
02:44:05,034 --> 02:44:09,551
were kind of like the Charlie
go-to makeup effects people.

3429
02:44:09,551 --> 02:44:13,103
John just looked at me like
I was completely insane.

3430
02:44:13,103 --> 02:44:16,344
Once we found the basic design,

3431
02:44:16,344 --> 02:44:17,965
John threw himself into it

3432
02:44:17,965 --> 02:44:20,413
and created this character
that is just like

3433
02:44:20,413 --> 02:44:23,241
the most doofus-y
looking monster

3434
02:44:23,241 --> 02:44:24,965
that you could imagine.

3435
02:44:24,965 --> 02:44:26,103
No!

3436
02:44:26,103 --> 02:44:28,689
It was big and
heavy and hot inside,

3437
02:44:28,689 --> 02:44:31,206
and required five
or six puppeteers

3438
02:44:31,206 --> 02:44:33,379
just to make him work,

3439
02:44:33,379 --> 02:44:35,758
and shipping him over to Italy

3440
02:44:35,758 --> 02:44:39,241
must have been just
ridiculously expensive.

3441
02:44:41,137 --> 02:44:43,827
♪ TerrorVision

3442
02:44:43,827 --> 02:44:45,965
That main title theme
is just so perfect.

3443
02:44:45,965 --> 02:44:48,137
Sets the time
period of the movie,

3444
02:44:48,137 --> 02:44:50,103
sets the tone of the movie.

3445
02:44:50,103 --> 02:44:53,448
We talked to Frank Zappa
about doing the score.

3446
02:44:53,448 --> 02:44:55,551
Then I talked to The Cramps.

3447
02:44:55,551 --> 02:45:00,137
But The Fibonaccis, the
quirky quality of their music

3448
02:45:00,137 --> 02:45:03,172
was perfect for the
main title song.

3449
02:45:04,586 --> 02:45:06,827
♪ TerrorVision

3450
02:45:06,827 --> 02:45:09,275
My favorite sequence
of "TerrorVision"

3451
02:45:09,275 --> 02:45:13,034
is the creature is
sitting in the big hot tub

3452
02:45:13,034 --> 02:45:16,551
watching "Earth Versus
Flying Saucers" on TV,

3453
02:45:16,551 --> 02:45:19,586
and laughing uproariously
as flying saucers

3454
02:45:19,586 --> 02:45:21,896
smash into the monuments.

3455
02:45:25,931 --> 02:45:29,310
The kids come in
and try to kill it.

3456
02:45:32,862 --> 02:45:34,655
That little sequence
there, to me,

3457
02:45:34,655 --> 02:45:38,137
kind of captures the
chaos and the humor.

3458
02:45:41,275 --> 02:45:42,137
Sis!

3459
02:45:42,137 --> 02:45:43,034
Sis!

3460
02:45:45,000 --> 02:45:47,241
I was so pleased
that it came out

3461
02:45:47,241 --> 02:45:48,448
as well as it did.

3462
02:45:48,448 --> 02:45:50,137
And then when it went
into the theaters

3463
02:45:50,137 --> 02:45:51,862
for its one week run,

3464
02:45:51,862 --> 02:45:53,931
it was a fucking disaster.

3465
02:45:53,931 --> 02:45:55,241
Nobody came.

3466
02:45:55,241 --> 02:45:57,172
The reviews just hated it.

3467
02:45:57,172 --> 02:45:59,655
Man, this is the
dumbest movie I ever saw!

3468
02:45:59,655 --> 02:46:01,103
What a bunch of crud.

3469
02:46:01,103 --> 02:46:04,068
But over the years, it's
been really satisfying

3470
02:46:04,068 --> 02:46:06,206
to see how it became
kind of like a

3471
02:46:06,206 --> 02:46:08,068
let's get stoned
and watch this film,

3472
02:46:08,068 --> 02:46:11,862
and that's like kind of
what it was intended to be.

3473
02:46:11,862 --> 02:46:14,862
I'm really happy that it's
reached as many people

3474
02:46:14,862 --> 02:46:16,000
as it has.

3475
02:46:28,724 --> 02:46:30,689
In "Rats: Notte di
Terrore", which is

3476
02:46:30,689 --> 02:46:33,965
"Rats: Night of Terror",
ragtag band of survivors

3477
02:46:33,965 --> 02:46:37,517
after the last apocalypse are
searching for food and water

3478
02:46:37,517 --> 02:46:39,137
in a no man's land.

3479
02:46:39,137 --> 02:46:40,931
They would find
evolution has taken

3480
02:46:40,931 --> 02:46:42,655
a pretty nasty turn.

3481
02:46:48,379 --> 02:46:49,827
This is a really
low budget movie,

3482
02:46:49,827 --> 02:46:52,862
and it's the first
movie where I'm a lead.

3483
02:46:52,862 --> 02:46:54,482
It was only a gag.

3484
02:46:54,482 --> 02:46:55,965
Listen up.

3485
02:46:55,965 --> 02:46:57,758
Gags we don't need.

3486
02:46:57,758 --> 02:47:00,000
Any more and I'll blow
your fucking brains out.

3487
02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:01,241
Get it?

3488
02:47:01,241 --> 02:47:04,103
They actually had cast
my roommate at the time

3489
02:47:04,103 --> 02:47:05,379
to play my role.

3490
02:47:05,379 --> 02:47:07,586
Completely different
type, American girl.

3491
02:47:07,586 --> 02:47:08,965
She's got red hair.

3492
02:47:08,965 --> 02:47:10,448
Completely different girl.

3493
02:47:10,448 --> 02:47:12,827
The budget was so low, she
goes I'm not doing that.

3494
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:15,896
Somehow I guess
they heard I would.

3495
02:47:22,034 --> 02:47:23,448
Oh my god!

3496
02:47:23,448 --> 02:47:24,482
I
won't even tell you

3497
02:47:24,482 --> 02:47:25,517
what I got paid per week.

3498
02:47:25,517 --> 02:47:26,620
That's how low it was.

3499
02:47:26,620 --> 02:47:28,068
They were paying you by week.

3500
02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:31,034
Not Diana, no!

3501
02:47:31,034 --> 02:47:32,344
The script was in Italian.

3502
02:47:32,344 --> 02:47:34,206
But I did my role in English.

3503
02:47:34,206 --> 02:47:36,965
And then that movie,
everyone with the exception

3504
02:47:36,965 --> 02:47:38,793
of maybe two people,
could speak English.

3505
02:47:38,793 --> 02:47:41,482
And then everyone else
would be dubbed around it.

3506
02:47:41,482 --> 02:47:43,586
You made a bet with me
and you lost, Chocolate.

3507
02:47:43,586 --> 02:47:45,034
You know it.

3508
02:47:45,034 --> 02:47:46,586
Put it on my bill.

3509
02:47:46,586 --> 02:47:48,000
Tonight I don't feel like it.

3510
02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:50,724
Now here's a fun
thing about the set.

3511
02:47:50,724 --> 02:47:52,655
It's actually Sergio Leone's

3512
02:47:52,655 --> 02:47:55,310
old America from "One
Upon a Time in America".

3513
02:47:55,310 --> 02:47:58,068
All the saloons, and all
the stores they're going in.

3514
02:47:58,068 --> 02:47:59,379
It's the same set.

3515
02:47:59,379 --> 02:48:01,517
Mere weeks before,
De Niro was in town,

3516
02:48:01,517 --> 02:48:03,000
and he was everywhere.

3517
02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:03,965
You could see him anywhere,
and they were doing that.

3518
02:48:03,965 --> 02:48:05,275
And then we got to use the set.

3519
02:48:05,275 --> 02:48:07,862
Here's where my
four-legged friend came from.

3520
02:48:07,862 --> 02:48:09,103
Look.

3521
02:48:09,103 --> 02:48:10,551
There's a whole nest of
the sweet little things.

3522
02:48:10,551 --> 02:48:12,655
We don't have any
actual rats in the movie.

3523
02:48:12,655 --> 02:48:13,862
We have lab mice.

3524
02:48:13,862 --> 02:48:15,827
Because only lab mice
have the red eyes.

3525
02:48:15,827 --> 02:48:17,241
They dyed all of their hair.

3526
02:48:17,241 --> 02:48:18,965
It was a different
time, a different era.

3527
02:48:18,965 --> 02:48:21,482
I wouldn't say that all
of them were treated

3528
02:48:21,482 --> 02:48:22,827
the way we would do it now,

3529
02:48:22,827 --> 02:48:23,793
but we weren't going around

3530
02:48:23,793 --> 02:48:25,482
stomping on them, or anything.

3531
02:48:27,586 --> 02:48:29,793
And as you see the movie,
there's real no CGI.

3532
02:48:29,793 --> 02:48:31,758
You can tell we got rubber rats

3533
02:48:31,758 --> 02:48:33,275
on the roller, you know?

3534
02:48:35,310 --> 02:48:37,689
The movie was so low budget,

3535
02:48:37,689 --> 02:48:39,379
they recycled the dead ones

3536
02:48:39,379 --> 02:48:42,172
to throw on us in
the other scenes.

3537
02:48:42,172 --> 02:48:44,413
I've been on some
smelly sets before.

3538
02:48:44,413 --> 02:48:45,655
But you've never been on a set

3539
02:48:45,655 --> 02:48:47,758
that's been housing a
garbage can that big

3540
02:48:47,758 --> 02:48:49,137
of dead rats.

3541
02:48:50,310 --> 02:48:52,586
Suddenly they're
gassed, and they die.

3542
02:48:52,586 --> 02:48:55,310
And in the most feminine
faint in history,

3543
02:48:55,310 --> 02:48:58,241
I kind of faint like
this.

3544
02:48:59,241 --> 02:49:00,896
It was a good beginning.

3545
02:49:00,896 --> 02:49:03,172
If you haven't seen
the movie before,

3546
02:49:03,172 --> 02:49:06,275
pay great attention
to the last scene.

3547
02:49:06,275 --> 02:49:08,965
And if you have seen
the movie before,

3548
02:49:08,965 --> 02:49:10,241
here's the hint.

3549
02:49:10,241 --> 02:49:12,310
That's a split scene.

3550
02:49:12,310 --> 02:49:14,000
And I played both characters.

3551
02:49:27,551 --> 02:49:32,172
The terror
starts the moment you stop

3552
02:49:32,172 --> 02:49:33,344
for "The Hitcher".

3553
02:49:33,344 --> 02:49:36,068
It's a
straightforward thriller

3554
02:49:36,068 --> 02:49:38,482
that grips you
and never lets go.

3555
02:49:45,931 --> 02:49:48,551
Tobe Hooper used
to say horror films

3556
02:49:48,551 --> 02:49:50,000
are the new westerns.

3557
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:54,275
Their mythology is all
about trying to reconcile

3558
02:49:54,275 --> 02:49:57,137
the evil within oneself,
the evil within a society,

3559
02:49:57,137 --> 02:49:58,689
the evil of a certain act,

3560
02:49:58,689 --> 02:50:01,517
with those who want
to correct it, fix it,

3561
02:50:01,517 --> 02:50:03,620
fight it, avenge it.

3562
02:50:03,620 --> 02:50:06,000
Don't you know who he is?

3563
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:07,724
You got the wrong man, Lyle.

3564
02:50:09,137 --> 02:50:11,620
The monster in the film
is not a guy in a mask,

3565
02:50:11,620 --> 02:50:16,620
but he is exactly like Jason,
Leatherface, Michael Meyers.

3566
02:50:17,827 --> 02:50:20,344
He's simply hitching
a ride in the rain.

3567
02:50:20,344 --> 02:50:24,965
And this horrific story ensues.

3568
02:50:24,965 --> 02:50:27,551
You wanna know what
happens to an eyeball

3569
02:50:27,551 --> 02:50:28,896
when it gets punctured?

3570
02:50:30,241 --> 02:50:32,827
The movie truly only
has three characters,

3571
02:50:32,827 --> 02:50:34,586
and I love that economy.

3572
02:50:34,586 --> 02:50:37,241
It has C. Thomas Howell,
Jennifer Jason Leigh,

3573
02:50:37,241 --> 02:50:39,000
and Rutger Hauer.

3574
02:50:40,379 --> 02:50:42,379
He's one of the
scariest human beings

3575
02:50:42,379 --> 02:50:44,000
on the fucking planet.

3576
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:46,586
His presence fills the screen.

3577
02:50:46,586 --> 02:50:47,724
That gun is empty.

3578
02:50:48,931 --> 02:50:49,724
Yeah?

3579
02:50:50,620 --> 02:50:51,517
Yeah.

3580
02:50:51,517 --> 02:50:52,758
Yeah?

3581
02:50:52,758 --> 02:50:55,241
It's a film about
being paranoid,

3582
02:50:55,241 --> 02:50:57,965
and knowing something
really bad is happening,

3583
02:50:57,965 --> 02:51:00,620
but nobody will believe you.

3584
02:51:01,448 --> 02:51:02,275
Jesus!

3585
02:51:03,827 --> 02:51:04,655
Oh my god.

3586
02:51:04,655 --> 02:51:05,482
He put that there!

3587
02:51:05,482 --> 02:51:06,482
He put that there!

3588
02:51:07,724 --> 02:51:10,103
To this day, when
I'm eating fries,

3589
02:51:10,103 --> 02:51:13,793
I always look at the
fry that I'm eating.

3590
02:51:13,793 --> 02:51:15,793
He's eating, and he gets
there, and it's a finger,

3591
02:51:15,793 --> 02:51:16,620
and you're like, fuck!

3592
02:51:16,620 --> 02:51:17,551
It's a finger!

3593
02:51:22,689 --> 02:51:24,448
They've got the
girlfriend connected,

3594
02:51:24,448 --> 02:51:26,517
chained up between
the two trucks.

3595
02:51:27,344 --> 02:51:28,551
Do something!

3596
02:51:28,551 --> 02:51:30,000
If we shoot him,
his foot is gonna come

3597
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:32,310
off that clutch, and
that truck is gonna roll!

3598
02:51:32,310 --> 02:51:34,827
And he just looks
at C. Thomas Howell,

3599
02:51:34,827 --> 02:51:39,000
and there's that moment
of, is he gonna let her go?

3600
02:51:43,448 --> 02:51:44,896
TriStar released
"The Hitcher",

3601
02:51:44,896 --> 02:51:47,137
and they were a little skittish
about the script stuff,

3602
02:51:47,137 --> 02:51:49,896
is because in 1984, the last
horror movie they released

3603
02:51:49,896 --> 02:51:51,172
was "Silent Night Deadly Night".

3604
02:51:51,172 --> 02:51:53,000
And that only had
a two week run,

3605
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:55,000
and it was protested
out of theaters.

3606
02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:57,137
So taking a chance on a
movie like "The Hitcher",

3607
02:51:57,137 --> 02:51:58,448
they saw this script,
and they were like

3608
02:51:58,448 --> 02:52:00,137
remove the slasher elements.

3609
02:52:01,241 --> 02:52:02,068
Figure it out.

3610
02:52:03,275 --> 02:52:06,793
"The Hitcher" was in
that crossover period

3611
02:52:06,793 --> 02:52:08,448
where things were
starting to get

3612
02:52:08,448 --> 02:52:10,689
a little bit less splattery.

3613
02:52:10,689 --> 02:52:13,344
Style, that 80s video style,

3614
02:52:13,344 --> 02:52:16,000
was starting to
permeate thrillers.

3615
02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:17,344
Directed by Robert Harmon,

3616
02:52:17,344 --> 02:52:18,344
written by Eric Red,

3617
02:52:18,344 --> 02:52:19,586
who also wrote "Near Dark",

3618
02:52:19,586 --> 02:52:22,344
which is another
example of that stylized

3619
02:52:22,344 --> 02:52:23,448
horror movie making.

3620
02:52:23,448 --> 02:52:24,482
Where are you from?

3621
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:30,206
Disneyland.

3622
02:52:30,206 --> 02:52:32,413
The late great Rutger Hauer.

3623
02:52:32,413 --> 02:52:34,689
I could do a
complete dissertation

3624
02:52:34,689 --> 02:52:38,413
on just how fucking
unappreciated he was.

3625
02:52:40,655 --> 02:52:42,724
No!

3626
02:52:42,724 --> 02:52:46,793
He could have been the head
of every horror family ever.

3627
02:52:46,793 --> 02:52:51,689
You useless waste.

3628
02:52:55,413 --> 02:52:57,482
So good.

3629
02:53:03,137 --> 02:53:05,586
Something fantastic
in the 1980s

3630
02:53:05,586 --> 02:53:06,724
happened where they were like

3631
02:53:06,724 --> 02:53:09,000
"Gremlins",
"Critters", "Ghoulies".

3632
02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:11,931
There are tiny creatures,
they are going to take over,

3633
02:53:11,931 --> 02:53:13,000
and I'm into it.

3634
02:53:15,517 --> 02:53:16,758
"Critters".

3635
02:53:17,586 --> 02:53:18,758
They bite.

3636
02:53:18,758 --> 02:53:21,137
People kept
trashing "Critters"

3637
02:53:21,137 --> 02:53:24,275
for being a bad cheap
imitation of "Gremlins".

3638
02:53:26,068 --> 02:53:28,103
They're not the same movie.

3639
02:53:28,103 --> 02:53:32,000
No, the critters are fucking
gonna eat you alive, man.

3640
02:53:37,931 --> 02:53:41,275
It's attitude with an
emphasis on the drama.

3641
02:53:41,275 --> 02:53:42,620
I didn't even do nothing.

3642
02:53:42,620 --> 02:53:45,586
Boy, you shot her
with a slingshot.

3643
02:53:45,586 --> 02:53:48,379
It's really just the way
Stephen Herek approached it,

3644
02:53:48,379 --> 02:53:49,758
and took it seriously.

3645
02:53:49,758 --> 02:53:51,448
We want the Krites.

3646
02:53:51,448 --> 02:53:52,655
Oh really?

3647
02:53:52,655 --> 02:53:55,482
Who are they, some
new team?

3648
02:53:55,482 --> 02:53:57,862
It acts like a studio movie,

3649
02:53:57,862 --> 02:54:00,482
and it's a $2 million
little independent.

3650
02:54:02,931 --> 02:54:05,206
I love the little
country family,

3651
02:54:05,206 --> 02:54:08,137
completely innocent
of everything.

3652
02:54:14,689 --> 02:54:17,103
And boy, Dee Wallace
gives it her best.

3653
02:54:21,448 --> 02:54:23,344
Get out of my house!

3654
02:54:24,586 --> 02:54:26,344
We had so much
fun on "Critters".

3655
02:54:27,482 --> 02:54:30,068
I loved working
with Stephen Herek.

3656
02:54:30,068 --> 02:54:32,448
He was so easy to work with.

3657
02:54:32,448 --> 02:54:34,068
Always knew what he wanted.

3658
02:54:34,068 --> 02:54:35,655
And it was a tough shoot,

3659
02:54:35,655 --> 02:54:38,379
because we worked mostly nights.

3660
02:54:45,551 --> 02:54:47,448
The creature
designs in "Critters"

3661
02:54:47,448 --> 02:54:50,517
I remember thinking were
really funny when I was a kid.

3662
02:54:52,827 --> 02:54:57,827
Little creepy yet
adorable balls of spikiness,

3663
02:54:59,172 --> 02:55:01,379
and they have really
terrifying eyes and teeth,

3664
02:55:01,379 --> 02:55:03,965
but that's what
made them so fun.

3665
02:55:08,482 --> 02:55:11,103
The Chiodo brothers of
"Killer Klowns from Outer Space"

3666
02:55:11,103 --> 02:55:13,586
fame created the
Krites in "Critters".

3667
02:55:15,034 --> 02:55:17,655
With "Critters" there is an
element where you are scared

3668
02:55:17,655 --> 02:55:19,344
because you don't know
what's gonna happen.

3669
02:55:19,344 --> 02:55:22,000
They just seem in
it to destroy things

3670
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:23,068
and kill people.

3671
02:55:25,068 --> 02:55:27,724
They didn't have the
big critter finished.

3672
02:55:27,724 --> 02:55:30,689
That's why in that one
scene, you only see his eyes

3673
02:55:30,689 --> 02:55:32,758
coming up through the window.

3674
02:55:37,931 --> 02:55:40,655
It was hard to stay in the fear

3675
02:55:40,655 --> 02:55:42,379
and everything that we had to do

3676
02:55:42,379 --> 02:55:43,620
because it was pretty funny.

3677
02:55:43,620 --> 02:55:46,482
We would be ready to do
this hysterical scene,

3678
02:55:46,482 --> 02:55:49,068
and Stephen would go
okay, roll them in.

3679
02:55:49,068 --> 02:55:52,413
Just roll
the little balls

3680
02:55:52,413 --> 02:55:54,379
across the set.

3681
02:55:58,068 --> 02:56:01,482
I did not have anything to do
with the Krite and E.T. scene.

3682
02:56:01,482 --> 02:56:02,724
Nothing.

3683
02:56:02,724 --> 02:56:04,793
And the fans that
are really fans

3684
02:56:04,793 --> 02:56:06,241
that are really knowledgeable,

3685
02:56:06,241 --> 02:56:08,965
they just get off on all
that stuff, and it's great.

3686
02:56:08,965 --> 02:56:11,793
I think it's wonderful
that directors

3687
02:56:11,793 --> 02:56:15,206
throw in all those
cross references.

3688
02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:19,931
A lot of people
make horror movies

3689
02:56:19,931 --> 02:56:22,000
just because it's the easiest,

3690
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:24,103
or what they think
will be the easiest

3691
02:56:24,103 --> 02:56:27,586
stepping stone to a career
or a paycheck or something.

3692
02:56:27,586 --> 02:56:29,827
But there's a lot of love
and craft in that movie

3693
02:56:29,827 --> 02:56:31,551
that I really appreciate.

3694
02:56:44,586 --> 02:56:47,689
"Manhunter".

3695
02:56:47,689 --> 02:56:50,275
"Manhunter"'s based off
the novel "Red Dragon"

3696
02:56:50,275 --> 02:56:53,586
by Thomas Harris, who also
made "Silence of the Lambs",

3697
02:56:53,586 --> 02:56:55,655
and just like with
"Silence of the Lambs",

3698
02:56:55,655 --> 02:56:57,655
this is a movie that
critics have to refer to

3699
02:56:57,655 --> 02:56:59,689
as a thriller rather
than a horror movie

3700
02:56:59,689 --> 02:57:01,793
so they're allowed to like it.

3701
02:57:04,896 --> 02:57:07,344
The movie is about a killer
named the Tooth Fairy

3702
02:57:07,344 --> 02:57:08,689
who bites people's faces.

3703
02:57:08,689 --> 02:57:10,448
You can't call this
a horror movie?

3704
02:57:11,793 --> 02:57:12,655
Give a kiss.

3705
02:57:17,379 --> 02:57:19,758
William Peterson plays
a detective, Will Graham,

3706
02:57:19,758 --> 02:57:21,620
who's investigating
murders being committed

3707
02:57:21,620 --> 02:57:23,793
by this killer, who we
later learn is this guy

3708
02:57:23,793 --> 02:57:25,482
called Francis Dollarhyde,

3709
02:57:25,482 --> 02:57:27,896
and the reason the novel
was called "Red Dragon"

3710
02:57:27,896 --> 02:57:31,034
is because Dollarhyde
worships this painting

3711
02:57:31,034 --> 02:57:33,827
called the Red Dragon,
and identifies himself

3712
02:57:33,827 --> 02:57:35,172
as the Red Dragon.

3713
02:57:35,172 --> 02:57:36,965
You will lie awake in fear

3714
02:57:36,965 --> 02:57:39,137
of what the Red Dragon will do.

3715
02:57:39,137 --> 02:57:41,482
Francis Dollarhyde's
played by Tom Noonan

3716
02:57:41,482 --> 02:57:44,206
who also played Frankenstein
in "The Monster Squad",

3717
02:57:44,206 --> 02:57:48,000
and he's a very, very
effectively creepy villain.

3718
02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:49,689
He's up there with Buffalo Bill

3719
02:57:49,689 --> 02:57:52,000
from "Silence of the
Lambs", in my opinion.

3720
02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:53,758
Put the fucking
lotion in the basket!

3721
02:57:53,758 --> 02:57:56,172
As a testament to how
scary Tom Noonan is,

3722
02:57:56,172 --> 02:57:58,793
he can wear pantyhose
over half of his face

3723
02:57:58,793 --> 02:58:01,413
like he's Howie Mandel
trying to blow up a glove

3724
02:58:01,413 --> 02:58:03,517
with his nose, and
still be scary.

3725
02:58:03,517 --> 02:58:06,068
Well, here I am.

3726
02:58:08,241 --> 02:58:10,448
This was the very
first screen appearance

3727
02:58:10,448 --> 02:58:12,241
of Hannibal Lecktor,
except this time

3728
02:58:12,241 --> 02:58:15,689
he's played by Brian
Cox, not Anthony Hopkins.

3729
02:58:16,896 --> 02:58:20,000
And Cox as Lecktor
is a lot more subdued

3730
02:58:20,000 --> 02:58:22,689
than Anthony Hopkins,
but he still has

3731
02:58:22,689 --> 02:58:24,827
this quiet menace about him.

3732
02:58:24,827 --> 02:58:28,034
Would you like to leave
me your home phone number?

3733
02:58:28,034 --> 02:58:30,586
Even if he seems to
be cooperating with you,

3734
02:58:30,586 --> 02:58:32,172
he still never
really lets you know

3735
02:58:32,172 --> 02:58:33,965
what his true intentions are,

3736
02:58:33,965 --> 02:58:36,689
but you can be rest assured
that they're not good,

3737
02:58:36,689 --> 02:58:38,620
and he's smarter than you are.

3738
02:58:38,620 --> 02:58:39,551
I know that I'm
not smarter than you.

3739
02:58:39,551 --> 02:58:40,896
Then how did you catch me?

3740
02:58:40,896 --> 02:58:42,310
You had disadvantages.

3741
02:58:42,310 --> 02:58:43,586
What disadvantages?

3742
02:58:43,586 --> 02:58:44,724
You're insane.

3743
02:58:44,724 --> 02:58:46,241
At this point,
Michael Mann was famous

3744
02:58:46,241 --> 02:58:47,793
for the series Miami Vice,

3745
02:58:47,793 --> 02:58:50,000
and this movie uses
a lot of the same

3746
02:58:50,000 --> 02:58:53,275
color scheme, a lot of
the same use of music.

3747
02:58:57,034 --> 02:59:00,068
In a way, this could almost
be like a really scary

3748
02:59:00,068 --> 02:59:01,862
extended episode of Miami Vice,

3749
02:59:01,862 --> 02:59:03,862
and I think that kind of
ended up overshadowing

3750
02:59:03,862 --> 02:59:05,551
the movie a little bit.

3751
02:59:16,827 --> 02:59:21,034
Wes Craven, a very
groundbreaking filmmaker,

3752
02:59:21,034 --> 02:59:22,448
whenever his name was on a film,

3753
02:59:22,448 --> 02:59:24,931
I would always either go
and see it or rent it.

3754
02:59:24,931 --> 02:59:27,620
He definitely had a
shaky track record.

3755
02:59:27,620 --> 02:59:30,137
But it seemed like
he was always looking

3756
02:59:30,137 --> 02:59:32,413
to find something
that would catch on.

3757
02:59:33,931 --> 02:59:36,655
He was always doing these
very interesting stories

3758
02:59:36,655 --> 02:59:40,482
about how kids were
dealing with a lot

3759
02:59:40,482 --> 02:59:42,931
in terms of their family
dynamics, and things like that,

3760
02:59:42,931 --> 02:59:45,448
and we see that especially
in the movie "Deadly Friend".

3761
02:59:45,448 --> 02:59:47,620
"Deadly Friend".

3762
02:59:48,758 --> 02:59:52,448
She can't live without you.

3763
02:59:52,448 --> 02:59:56,827
"Deadly Friend" was adapted
from a story called "Friend".

3764
02:59:56,827 --> 02:59:58,862
They were trying to
make this love story.

3765
02:59:58,862 --> 03:00:00,379
A little bit of science
fiction element,

3766
03:00:00,379 --> 03:00:03,034
little bit of action,
little bit of horror.

3767
03:00:03,034 --> 03:00:04,275
We're pretty close approaching

3768
03:00:04,275 --> 03:00:06,000
the way a normal
human brain works.

3769
03:00:06,000 --> 03:00:07,862
"Deadly Friend" is
about a guy named Paul

3770
03:00:07,862 --> 03:00:09,310
who is a genius.

3771
03:00:09,310 --> 03:00:12,068
He's created this
robot friend named BB,

3772
03:00:13,482 --> 03:00:16,034
a robot with super strength
who thinks for himself,

3773
03:00:16,034 --> 03:00:18,758
and has emotions,
and feels things.

3774
03:00:18,758 --> 03:00:20,551
What could go wrong with
that kind of strength?

3775
03:00:20,551 --> 03:00:22,448
Well, turns out everything.

3776
03:00:23,413 --> 03:00:25,034
I'm side eyeing this robot here,

3777
03:00:25,034 --> 03:00:26,724
because that robot's a killer

3778
03:00:26,724 --> 03:00:29,413
just waiting for
an excuse to kill.

3779
03:00:30,655 --> 03:00:33,000
Sam was played by
Kristy Swanson,

3780
03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:35,241
who we love her as
the original Buffy.

3781
03:00:36,827 --> 03:00:38,448
Dad just will beat her,

3782
03:00:38,448 --> 03:00:40,275
which is terrible.

3783
03:00:41,827 --> 03:00:44,000
He yells at her, and then
throws her down the stairs.

3784
03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:45,724
You whiny little bitch!

3785
03:00:45,724 --> 03:00:46,586
Ow!

3786
03:00:49,620 --> 03:00:50,827
She dies.

3787
03:00:50,827 --> 03:00:53,034
Paul's like, I think
I can save her.

3788
03:00:53,034 --> 03:00:55,310
You're giving
her a robot brain?

3789
03:00:55,310 --> 03:00:56,551
Giving her a computer.

3790
03:00:57,724 --> 03:00:59,241
It's a battery powered
self-contained computer.

3791
03:00:59,241 --> 03:01:02,068
So now he has a robot's brain

3792
03:01:02,068 --> 03:01:05,034
in a human girl's
body, but she's dead,

3793
03:01:05,034 --> 03:01:06,724
so he has to hide her, or
else she's walking around,

3794
03:01:06,724 --> 03:01:08,241
she's a zombie, right?

3795
03:01:08,241 --> 03:01:09,758
And then it all goes badly,
and I'm glad it goes badly,

3796
03:01:09,758 --> 03:01:11,413
because it would be weird
if it didn't go badly.

3797
03:01:11,413 --> 03:01:15,000
She sort of becomes
this very interesting

3798
03:01:15,000 --> 03:01:16,965
kind of totem, in a way.

3799
03:01:16,965 --> 03:01:19,379
How she's able to
right the wrongs

3800
03:01:19,379 --> 03:01:20,655
of the way that
she's been treated,

3801
03:01:20,655 --> 03:01:22,586
the way other people
have been treated.

3802
03:01:27,172 --> 03:01:28,793
Elvira, played by Ann Ramsey.

3803
03:01:28,793 --> 03:01:32,241
She's that gun-toting
get off my lawn

3804
03:01:32,241 --> 03:01:35,275
times 40 Karen that
you could meet, right?

3805
03:01:35,275 --> 03:01:36,655
Who's out there?

3806
03:01:36,655 --> 03:01:37,586
What are you doing?

3807
03:01:37,586 --> 03:01:39,758
It's just me, Ms. Parker!

3808
03:01:39,758 --> 03:01:41,034
What is that?

3809
03:01:41,034 --> 03:01:41,896
BB!

3810
03:01:41,896 --> 03:01:43,379
But we love her.

3811
03:01:43,379 --> 03:01:45,000
We love Ann Ramsey from
"Throw Mama From the Train",

3812
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:46,310
and from "Goonies".

3813
03:01:46,310 --> 03:01:50,862
We love her in that mean
scary woman character.

3814
03:01:50,862 --> 03:01:52,586
Damn kids.

3815
03:01:53,482 --> 03:01:54,482
BB picks up the ball,

3816
03:01:54,482 --> 03:01:56,344
and throws it at Elvira's head,

3817
03:01:56,344 --> 03:01:58,448
and her whole head explodes.

3818
03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:05,689
The whole head goes

3819
03:02:05,689 --> 03:02:08,275
That's my favorite
kill of the movie.

3820
03:02:10,655 --> 03:02:11,896
When they had
the movie together,

3821
03:02:11,896 --> 03:02:14,034
a studio watched it,
and they said, no.

3822
03:02:14,034 --> 03:02:16,896
This needs more violence.

3823
03:02:16,896 --> 03:02:18,482
It needs to be gory.

3824
03:02:18,482 --> 03:02:20,862
Because they're under
contract with the studio,

3825
03:02:20,862 --> 03:02:23,344
they went back and
shot gore scenes.

3826
03:02:23,344 --> 03:02:25,482
Then they were told
it was too much.

3827
03:02:25,482 --> 03:02:27,068
They needed to be trimmed.

3828
03:02:27,068 --> 03:02:31,793
So the creativeness is
pulled back from Wes Craven.

3829
03:02:31,793 --> 03:02:34,000
Another movie where
everybody had fun.

3830
03:02:34,000 --> 03:02:35,620
But I don't think
Wes Craven did.

3831
03:02:51,379 --> 03:02:53,172
♪ Rock and roll

3832
03:02:53,172 --> 03:02:54,586
"Trick or Treat".

3833
03:02:54,586 --> 03:02:57,931
The ultimate rock
and roll horror movie.

3834
03:03:02,448 --> 03:03:05,827
The perfect mixture
of the mythos

3835
03:03:05,827 --> 03:03:09,103
behind the heavy metal
culture in the 80s.

3836
03:03:09,103 --> 03:03:13,310
Just a great misfit
in high school story,

3837
03:03:13,310 --> 03:03:15,724
which I totally related to.

3838
03:03:15,724 --> 03:03:16,862
All right, so
"Trick or Treat".

3839
03:03:16,862 --> 03:03:19,482
You had Ozzy Osborne,
Gene Simmons,

3840
03:03:19,482 --> 03:03:21,310
and Skippy from Family Ties.

3841
03:03:21,310 --> 03:03:23,827
One of these things
is not like the other.

3842
03:03:23,827 --> 03:03:25,758
Rockstar Sammi Curr,

3843
03:03:25,758 --> 03:03:27,344
victim of a hotel fire.

3844
03:03:28,517 --> 03:03:30,551
Dead at age 38.

3845
03:03:30,551 --> 03:03:33,586
A rockstar dies, and then
this evil something or other

3846
03:03:33,586 --> 03:03:35,344
comes back as a rockstar.

3847
03:03:35,344 --> 03:03:37,862
I knew that "Trick or
Treat" was just candy.

3848
03:03:37,862 --> 03:03:40,586
It tastes sweet and
then it goes away.

3849
03:03:40,586 --> 03:03:43,000
It's a story of Ragman.

3850
03:03:43,000 --> 03:03:44,620
He is picked on, he's bullied

3851
03:03:44,620 --> 03:03:46,689
by pretty much everybody.

3852
03:03:46,689 --> 03:03:48,931
I wanna nail every
one of those bastards!

3853
03:03:48,931 --> 03:03:51,344
I don't know how,
I don't know when,

3854
03:03:51,344 --> 03:03:53,000
but I'm gonna nail them.

3855
03:03:53,000 --> 03:03:54,655
His hero is Sammi Curr,

3856
03:03:54,655 --> 03:03:58,724
who is demonic,
dark, in your face.

3857
03:03:58,724 --> 03:04:00,724
He ends up killing
himself in a ritual,

3858
03:04:00,724 --> 03:04:02,137
setting himself on fire.

3859
03:04:02,137 --> 03:04:07,000
His soul gets trapped
in the acetate demo

3860
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:09,413
that Gene Simmons has.

3861
03:04:09,413 --> 03:04:10,724
This is very cool.

3862
03:04:10,724 --> 03:04:12,827
And then when you
play it backwards,

3863
03:04:12,827 --> 03:04:14,827
he comes back from the dead.

3864
03:04:14,827 --> 03:04:15,655
You.

3865
03:04:17,758 --> 03:04:20,310
Great cameos by Gene,

3866
03:04:20,310 --> 03:04:24,482
and then Ozzy as the Bible
thumping PMRC minister.

3867
03:04:24,482 --> 03:04:27,482
These evil people have
just got to be stopped.

3868
03:04:30,206 --> 03:04:33,034
And it's just so off the hook.

3869
03:04:35,344 --> 03:04:37,103
They were looking at a
lot of different rock stars

3870
03:04:37,103 --> 03:04:38,724
to play Sammi Curr.

3871
03:04:38,724 --> 03:04:39,862
Eddie.

3872
03:04:41,620 --> 03:04:42,896
We had a deal.

3873
03:04:42,896 --> 03:04:45,034
I didn't wanna be this
guy with leather studs.

3874
03:04:45,034 --> 03:04:47,689
I was much more
interested in the DJ.

3875
03:04:47,689 --> 03:04:50,482
It's party time, yeah!

3876
03:04:50,482 --> 03:04:51,758
This is the old
Nooser coming at ya

3877
03:04:51,758 --> 03:04:55,034
right here on this fine,
fine Rocktober morning.

3878
03:04:55,034 --> 03:04:56,620
It's the sweeping sensation,

3879
03:04:56,620 --> 03:04:59,344
like patterned
after Wolfman Jack,

3880
03:04:59,344 --> 03:05:01,000
who was a DJ at the time.

3881
03:05:01,000 --> 03:05:03,206
I just had two or three
weeks off between a tour,

3882
03:05:03,206 --> 03:05:05,103
and wound up doing it.

3883
03:05:05,103 --> 03:05:06,517
Eh, Ragman!

3884
03:05:06,517 --> 03:05:09,000
I remember I was so
excited to meet him.

3885
03:05:09,000 --> 03:05:11,620
I said to him, hey Gene Simmons,

3886
03:05:11,620 --> 03:05:13,034
can you do the thing
with the tongue?

3887
03:05:13,034 --> 03:05:16,000
And he said no, I only
do that for girls.

3888
03:05:16,000 --> 03:05:17,551
Tony Fields was genuinely scary

3889
03:05:17,551 --> 03:05:18,586
playing Sammi Curr.

3890
03:05:20,413 --> 03:05:21,655
Hiya, bud.

3891
03:05:21,655 --> 03:05:23,068
Boy, he got that
rockstar stuff down.

3892
03:05:23,068 --> 03:05:26,000
He could dance and sing
and move with the guitar

3893
03:05:26,000 --> 03:05:27,241
and jump off the stage,

3894
03:05:27,241 --> 03:05:29,172
and capable of so much,

3895
03:05:29,172 --> 03:05:31,206
and we lost him way too young.

3896
03:05:34,137 --> 03:05:37,241
The film script was
funnier and darker.

3897
03:05:37,241 --> 03:05:41,379
I think what we ended up with
was something in the middle.

3898
03:05:41,379 --> 03:05:43,517
Charlie Martin Smith was
directing for the first time,

3899
03:05:43,517 --> 03:05:45,344
"Trick or Treat", that
was his first time.

3900
03:05:45,344 --> 03:05:47,689
We had a kinship, a
nerd-like kinship,

3901
03:05:47,689 --> 03:05:50,379
that other directors
might not have picked me.

3902
03:05:50,379 --> 03:05:51,482
I have to be honest with you.

3903
03:05:51,482 --> 03:05:53,103
Keanu Reeves was up for it.

3904
03:05:57,655 --> 03:05:58,896
The gore is great,
the kills are great.

3905
03:05:58,896 --> 03:06:01,482
When he yanks the old
lady through the TV,

3906
03:06:01,482 --> 03:06:04,000
and she just immediately
turns to dust.

3907
03:06:04,000 --> 03:06:06,241
Uh, what the shit
just happened, dude?

3908
03:06:06,241 --> 03:06:08,000
This is insane.

3909
03:06:10,103 --> 03:06:11,793
We were blessed
to get Kevin Yagher

3910
03:06:11,793 --> 03:06:14,413
to do the special effects
and the makeup in the film.

3911
03:06:16,068 --> 03:06:17,965
It was the first time that
I had acted in a movie

3912
03:06:17,965 --> 03:06:20,931
with an imaginary monster, and
things happening, and stuff.

3913
03:06:22,724 --> 03:06:23,965
Oh.

3914
03:06:23,965 --> 03:06:28,551
Of course, the amazing
soundtrack by Fastway.

3915
03:06:29,310 --> 03:06:30,655
♪ Rock and roll

3916
03:06:30,655 --> 03:06:32,586
♪ Rockin' on a midnight

3917
03:06:32,586 --> 03:06:35,965
♪ Steal your soul

3918
03:06:35,965 --> 03:06:38,896
Just such a killer
collection of great tunes

3919
03:06:38,896 --> 03:06:40,827
that I still listen
to to this day.

3920
03:06:40,827 --> 03:06:41,724
♪ On a midnight

3921
03:06:41,724 --> 03:06:43,172
♪ Steal your soul

3922
03:06:43,172 --> 03:06:44,620
We were giddy, it was so good.

3923
03:06:44,620 --> 03:06:46,551
We were like, this is good.

3924
03:06:46,551 --> 03:06:48,310
If the film was successful
when it came out,

3925
03:06:48,310 --> 03:06:50,517
it wasn't successful enough
for them to do the sequel,

3926
03:06:50,517 --> 03:06:53,620
and I'm not still
living off of it.

3927
03:06:53,620 --> 03:06:56,344
If you think about all the
movies that are out there,

3928
03:06:56,344 --> 03:06:59,241
it's unimaginable that people
still care about this movie.

3929
03:07:01,965 --> 03:07:03,000
Un fucking real.

3930
03:07:03,000 --> 03:07:06,344
Heavy metal fans stayed true.

3931
03:07:16,689 --> 03:07:19,000
Marty
Rantzen is still a dork,

3932
03:07:19,000 --> 03:07:20,827
but tonight he's getting even.

3933
03:07:20,827 --> 03:07:23,758
Vestron Pictures presents
"Slaughter High".

3934
03:07:25,620 --> 03:07:27,275
April fool's!

3935
03:07:27,275 --> 03:07:30,896
"Slaughter High"
is about a kid

3936
03:07:30,896 --> 03:07:33,586
that gets bullied, and
years later at a reunion,

3937
03:07:33,586 --> 03:07:34,551
he comes back.

3938
03:07:34,551 --> 03:07:35,379
Starts killing.

3939
03:07:42,034 --> 03:07:43,758
It's a revenge film.

3940
03:07:43,758 --> 03:07:46,034
It's a horrible prank,
and a prank that went

3941
03:07:46,034 --> 03:07:48,034
horribly wrong for
everybody else.

3942
03:07:48,034 --> 03:07:49,241
I'm sorry, Marty.

3943
03:07:49,241 --> 03:07:50,724
We didn't mean to!

3944
03:07:52,344 --> 03:07:54,689
First of all, it was
called "April Fool's Day",

3945
03:07:54,689 --> 03:07:57,068
and of course, that's like the
American "April Fool's Day",

3946
03:07:57,068 --> 03:07:59,517
so we had to change the title.

3947
03:08:00,689 --> 03:08:02,275
It was meant to be
shot in the States,

3948
03:08:02,275 --> 03:08:05,551
and there was no budget, so
it was all shot in England.

3949
03:08:05,551 --> 03:08:06,965
Three directors.

3950
03:08:06,965 --> 03:08:08,655
George Dugdale, my husband.

3951
03:08:08,655 --> 03:08:11,724
Peter Mackenzie
Litten, and Mark Ezra.

3952
03:08:11,724 --> 03:08:13,931
They all took different roles.

3953
03:08:13,931 --> 03:08:15,931
Peter Litten did
the special effects,

3954
03:08:15,931 --> 03:08:18,689
so he'd step in and
do those scenes.

3955
03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:23,241
Mark was more the writer,
and George would be

3956
03:08:23,241 --> 03:08:25,620
very hands-on as the
physical director,

3957
03:08:25,620 --> 03:08:26,689
which worked really well.

3958
03:08:26,689 --> 03:08:28,137
Good friends.

3959
03:08:28,137 --> 03:08:30,034
I've never had that before,
but it was interesting.

3960
03:08:31,241 --> 03:08:32,793
Carol, my character.

3961
03:08:32,793 --> 03:08:33,896
Come on.

3962
03:08:33,896 --> 03:08:35,137
Come on.

3963
03:08:35,137 --> 03:08:36,620
She wasn't a very
nice person at all.

3964
03:08:36,620 --> 03:08:37,896
She was a bit of a tease,

3965
03:08:37,896 --> 03:08:40,344
and she thought she
was the bees knees.

3966
03:08:40,344 --> 03:08:41,965
And she was meant to
be an 18-year-old.

3967
03:08:41,965 --> 03:08:42,896
I'm sorry.

3968
03:08:42,896 --> 03:08:45,689
I was in my 30s at that point.

3969
03:08:45,689 --> 03:08:47,206
They were clever in the casting,

3970
03:08:47,206 --> 03:08:49,965
because they got people in
their late 20s and stuff,

3971
03:08:49,965 --> 03:08:51,551
so it didn't look
too out of place.

3972
03:08:51,551 --> 03:08:54,482
You filthy stinking
bastard, Marty!

3973
03:08:54,482 --> 03:08:56,413
What do you want from us?

3974
03:08:56,413 --> 03:08:58,310
There was a mix
of Brit actors,

3975
03:08:58,310 --> 03:09:00,448
and then we had about
four, five Americans,

3976
03:09:00,448 --> 03:09:02,068
so that made it credible.

3977
03:09:03,793 --> 03:09:05,103
Simon Scuddamore.

3978
03:09:05,103 --> 03:09:07,310
Very intense, and he
did a brilliant job.

3979
03:09:07,310 --> 03:09:09,482
He made Marty
totally come to life.

3980
03:09:09,482 --> 03:09:11,000
It was wonderful.

3981
03:09:13,517 --> 03:09:14,793
How do you want it?

3982
03:09:14,793 --> 03:09:15,689
Please, stop!

3983
03:09:15,689 --> 03:09:17,103
No!

3984
03:09:17,103 --> 03:09:18,482
And what they did, I
don't know why they did it,

3985
03:09:18,482 --> 03:09:21,551
it was just like a
pack of hyenas, really.

3986
03:09:21,551 --> 03:09:23,482
The scene with
the bunsen burner.

3987
03:09:23,482 --> 03:09:25,620
They did such a
good job with that.

3988
03:09:29,103 --> 03:09:30,344
No CGI.

3989
03:09:30,344 --> 03:09:32,620
All practically done
in front of your eyes.

3990
03:09:35,172 --> 03:09:36,724
It all sets on fire.

3991
03:09:36,724 --> 03:09:38,137
I think it's a
fabulous sequence.

3992
03:09:38,137 --> 03:09:39,793
It's a kind of
tongue-in-cheek play

3993
03:09:39,793 --> 03:09:43,137
upon other films that
were maybe more serious.

3994
03:09:44,896 --> 03:09:47,862
Given the budget, I think
it stands up quite well.

3995
03:09:50,689 --> 03:09:53,000
People seem to like it,
especially in the States

3996
03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:53,827
when I go there.

3997
03:09:53,827 --> 03:09:55,206
They say, we love it.

3998
03:09:55,206 --> 03:09:57,103
I say, what do
you like about it?

3999
03:09:57,103 --> 03:10:00,931
They say it's so cheesy,
we just love it.

4000
03:10:05,000 --> 03:10:06,206
Maybe it is a bit cheesy,

4001
03:10:06,206 --> 03:10:08,103
but it's cheesy and fun,

4002
03:10:08,103 --> 03:10:10,241
and the effects were
really well done,

4003
03:10:10,241 --> 03:10:12,965
and hopefully the
acting's okay.

4004
03:10:12,965 --> 03:10:14,172
Look, Manny.

4005
03:10:15,379 --> 03:10:18,827
The guy's weird, the
story's weird, and-

4006
03:10:18,827 --> 03:10:19,655
And what?

4007
03:10:19,655 --> 03:10:21,000
And you're weird.

4008
03:10:29,793 --> 03:10:32,655
"Class of Nuke 'Em High",
like all Troma movies,

4009
03:10:32,655 --> 03:10:36,482
was a movie ripped
from today's headlines.

4010
03:10:36,482 --> 03:10:39,517
There was a nuclear
power plant being built

4011
03:10:39,517 --> 03:10:42,413
about a quarter of a mile
away from the United States'

4012
03:10:42,413 --> 03:10:45,551
most populous city,
namely New York City.

4013
03:10:45,551 --> 03:10:47,068
And right next to where I lived,

4014
03:10:47,068 --> 03:10:50,241
so that gave me the idea
of let's talk about that.

4015
03:10:50,241 --> 03:10:52,482
But sir, if we could just
shut down for 48 hours-

4016
03:10:52,482 --> 03:10:53,793
Shut down?

4017
03:10:53,793 --> 03:10:55,034
They'll investigate us.

4018
03:10:55,034 --> 03:10:56,551
The EPA, the NRC.

4019
03:10:56,551 --> 03:10:59,862
"Class of Nuke 'Em High" is
like a Cuisinart of genres.

4020
03:10:59,862 --> 03:11:03,034
People really enjoyed the
mixture of humor and horror,

4021
03:11:03,034 --> 03:11:07,068
and social satire, and
politics, and violence.

4022
03:11:10,620 --> 03:11:11,758
It's an excellent film.

4023
03:11:11,758 --> 03:11:13,206
It's very entertaining.

4024
03:11:13,206 --> 03:11:16,655
It's got something to say
about pollution and radiation.

4025
03:11:16,655 --> 03:11:17,965
We have found no connection

4026
03:11:17,965 --> 03:11:20,000
between that unfortunate student

4027
03:11:20,000 --> 03:11:21,206
and this facility.

4028
03:11:21,206 --> 03:11:22,517
I almost killed
one of my kids in it.

4029
03:11:22,517 --> 03:11:23,931
That was kinda fun.

4030
03:11:23,931 --> 03:11:26,689
We had to have a motorcycle
run into a bake sale

4031
03:11:26,689 --> 03:11:29,000
with a lot of women with cakes,

4032
03:11:29,000 --> 03:11:31,310
and I put my wife and kid
right in the center of it,

4033
03:11:31,310 --> 03:11:33,931
so that if anybody got
hurt, you know, my fault.

4034
03:11:35,896 --> 03:11:38,586
Nothing happened, but
they came pretty close.

4035
03:11:38,586 --> 03:11:40,551
Well, the whole idea of
blowing up your school,

4036
03:11:40,551 --> 03:11:41,827
I always loved that.

4037
03:11:41,827 --> 03:11:43,275
And I think that was
one of the reasons

4038
03:11:43,275 --> 03:11:44,379
it was successful.

4039
03:11:44,379 --> 03:11:46,310
We literally destroyed a school.

4040
03:11:50,034 --> 03:11:51,724
Once it got into theaters,

4041
03:11:51,724 --> 03:11:53,586
we made over 100 prints.

4042
03:11:53,586 --> 03:11:56,482
A video cassette company called
Media Home Entertainment,

4043
03:11:56,482 --> 03:12:00,000
they sold over 500,000
video cassettes

4044
03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:02,724
around 200 bucks for
a video cassette.

4045
03:12:04,344 --> 03:12:05,620
You know, "Class
of Nuke 'Em High"

4046
03:12:05,620 --> 03:12:08,310
is still very popular with fans.

4047
03:12:08,310 --> 03:12:09,517
Nostalgic, too.

4048
03:12:09,517 --> 03:12:10,965
We've got all these young people

4049
03:12:10,965 --> 03:12:12,448
who are now in their 50s

4050
03:12:12,448 --> 03:12:14,517
who still like "Class
of Nuke 'Em High".

4051
03:12:14,517 --> 03:12:17,172
They want to see
the future, but now.

4052
03:12:19,241 --> 03:12:20,724
It's a good movie.

4053
03:12:20,724 --> 03:12:22,689
It's so good that there's
"Subhumanoid Meltdown:

4054
03:12:22,689 --> 03:12:24,137
"Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 2",

4055
03:12:24,137 --> 03:12:25,758
"The Good the Bad
and the Subhumanoid:

4056
03:12:25,758 --> 03:12:27,448
"Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 3".

4057
03:12:27,448 --> 03:12:28,965
There are five of them.

4058
03:12:28,965 --> 03:12:30,172
Tromaville High School will be

4059
03:12:30,172 --> 03:12:32,103
temporarily closed
for remodeling.

4060
03:12:33,068 --> 03:12:34,620
All right!

4061
03:12:41,862 --> 03:12:44,241
This is actually
based on a true story.

4062
03:12:45,241 --> 03:12:46,517
"The Zero Boys".

4063
03:12:46,517 --> 03:12:50,000
Dawn of a new breed of heroes.

4064
03:12:50,000 --> 03:12:52,344
This really did happen
upstate California.

4065
03:12:52,344 --> 03:12:55,000
There was a group of people
that would go paintballing,

4066
03:12:55,000 --> 03:12:57,379
and there was a maniac
that would kill them.

4067
03:13:00,793 --> 03:13:04,103
Somebody said I'm gonna write
a movie about this, and did.

4068
03:13:04,103 --> 03:13:05,862
In the movie, there's a
group, and they're called

4069
03:13:05,862 --> 03:13:09,034
the Zero Boys, because they
never, ever, ever, ever win.

4070
03:13:09,034 --> 03:13:10,896
But this one time, they won.

4071
03:13:10,896 --> 03:13:11,724
Do it.

4072
03:13:12,620 --> 03:13:14,793
The Zero Boys are the best!

4073
03:13:14,793 --> 03:13:16,310
Fucking assholes.

4074
03:13:16,310 --> 03:13:18,896
And they won my character.

4075
03:13:18,896 --> 03:13:21,620
And so she's very
unhappy about that.

4076
03:13:21,620 --> 03:13:24,862
I am so thrilled to
be with the champions.

4077
03:13:24,862 --> 03:13:26,068
Go on.

4078
03:13:26,068 --> 03:13:27,482
Show me what makes
the Zero Boys tick.

4079
03:13:27,482 --> 03:13:29,413
So they get up there,
and all of a sudden

4080
03:13:29,413 --> 03:13:30,413
something is wrong.

4081
03:13:30,413 --> 03:13:32,068
Jamie.

4082
03:13:37,103 --> 03:13:40,103
It was kind of more getting
into the torture thing,

4083
03:13:40,103 --> 03:13:42,103
like really kind
of sick and weird.

4084
03:13:44,655 --> 03:13:46,448
Directed by Nico Mastorakis,

4085
03:13:46,448 --> 03:13:51,034
who was this Greek guy who loved
action exploitation horror.

4086
03:13:51,034 --> 03:13:54,344
And Nico just delivers this
powerhouse of action movie

4087
03:13:54,344 --> 03:13:56,137
mixed with horror.

4088
03:13:56,137 --> 03:13:58,137
The running and the
hanging by our feet

4089
03:13:58,137 --> 03:13:59,689
and all that other
kind of stuff,

4090
03:13:59,689 --> 03:14:03,137
a lot of inventiveness with
weapons, and crossbows,

4091
03:14:03,137 --> 03:14:04,689
and things like that.

4092
03:14:06,206 --> 03:14:08,275
And this movie is
brilliantly photographed

4093
03:14:08,275 --> 03:14:09,793
by Steve Shaw.

4094
03:14:09,793 --> 03:14:11,758
Every shot of that movie
is almost like a painting,

4095
03:14:11,758 --> 03:14:14,724
especially when they're
out in the wilderness.

4096
03:14:14,724 --> 03:14:16,241
It was a lot of running
around in the woods,

4097
03:14:16,241 --> 03:14:17,482
that's for sure.

4098
03:14:17,482 --> 03:14:18,862
Everybody camped
together and went

4099
03:14:18,862 --> 03:14:20,724
we have a serious problem here.

4100
03:14:20,724 --> 03:14:21,896
What are we going to do?

4101
03:14:21,896 --> 03:14:24,000
And did it as a group.

4102
03:14:24,000 --> 03:14:26,206
You have to get engaged
with the characters,

4103
03:14:26,206 --> 03:14:28,551
and care about them,
or relate to them,

4104
03:14:28,551 --> 03:14:31,172
or have an opinion about them.

4105
03:14:31,172 --> 03:14:32,965
If you don't know
who these people are

4106
03:14:32,965 --> 03:14:35,344
on an intimate level,
then you don't care.

4107
03:14:35,344 --> 03:14:37,206
We wanna care.

4108
03:14:39,517 --> 03:14:41,137
My favorite kill
in "The Zero Boys",

4109
03:14:41,137 --> 03:14:43,275
he falls into this
pit of spikes,

4110
03:14:43,275 --> 03:14:44,862
and then you can't get out.

4111
03:14:48,620 --> 03:14:51,068
But it was a good
kill.

4112
03:14:53,862 --> 03:14:55,827
Joe Estevez played the killer,

4113
03:14:55,827 --> 03:14:58,034
and he looks exactly
like Martin Sheen.

4114
03:14:58,034 --> 03:15:00,206
Probably scarier, because
he has more experience

4115
03:15:00,206 --> 03:15:02,241
doing these kinds of things.

4116
03:15:06,344 --> 03:15:08,724
It was Hans Zimmer's
first American score.

4117
03:15:08,724 --> 03:15:10,482
Frank Darabont was on the crew.

4118
03:15:12,206 --> 03:15:14,275
I remember he was
telling us all about

4119
03:15:14,275 --> 03:15:16,310
how he had a story
that he bought

4120
03:15:16,310 --> 03:15:18,103
from Stephen King for a dollar,

4121
03:15:18,103 --> 03:15:20,827
and it was "Shawshank
Redemption".

4122
03:15:23,103 --> 03:15:25,931
"The Zero Boys" is under the
radar because it always was.

4123
03:15:25,931 --> 03:15:27,896
It was always an
underground thing.

4124
03:15:27,896 --> 03:15:29,275
What's scary about
"The Zero Boys"

4125
03:15:29,275 --> 03:15:31,379
is you could be doing
something that you love to do,

4126
03:15:31,379 --> 03:15:32,724
and be in mortal danger.

4127
03:15:34,862 --> 03:15:36,862
There's no place safe.

4128
03:15:47,310 --> 03:15:50,896
My real name is George Tani.

4129
03:15:50,896 --> 03:15:53,034
growing up, I was very impressed

4130
03:15:53,034 --> 03:15:55,137
with Ray Harry Haroldon movies.

4131
03:15:55,137 --> 03:15:57,413
"Jason and the Argonauts".

4132
03:15:57,413 --> 03:15:59,793
My dad took me to the theater.

4133
03:15:59,793 --> 03:16:02,758
He said it's gonna be fun,
it's gonna be a fighting movie.

4134
03:16:02,758 --> 03:16:04,068
It's like a skeleton, you
know, you're gonna like it.

4135
03:16:04,068 --> 03:16:06,310
And I said oh, that's great.

4136
03:16:06,310 --> 03:16:09,172
I have been watching
"Godzilla", and all those,

4137
03:16:09,172 --> 03:16:11,034
tojo and kaiju films.

4138
03:16:11,034 --> 03:16:13,517
When I saw "Howling".

4139
03:16:18,000 --> 03:16:22,689
The first time I saw the man
turned into the werewolf,

4140
03:16:22,689 --> 03:16:25,103
changing right in
front of my eye,

4141
03:16:25,103 --> 03:16:28,068
I was like, this is it.

4142
03:16:33,551 --> 03:16:36,551
And then you see more coming up

4143
03:16:36,551 --> 03:16:39,344
from Rick Baker, and Rob Bottin.

4144
03:16:39,344 --> 03:16:43,206
And then Dick Smith's
"Altered States".

4145
03:16:46,482 --> 03:16:50,896
The images of that
really made me decide

4146
03:16:50,896 --> 03:16:52,931
this is the way to go.

4147
03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:01,344
When I went to New
York studying in school

4148
03:17:01,344 --> 03:17:05,482
of visual arts, right in the
beginning of punk movement.

4149
03:17:06,413 --> 03:17:08,000
♪ God save the queen

4150
03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:10,034
I saw the art side of it.

4151
03:17:10,034 --> 03:17:13,275
Punk music really
gave me the art,

4152
03:17:13,275 --> 03:17:16,034
okay, we can do a
lot more on edge.

4153
03:17:16,034 --> 03:17:20,000
I can perform something
shocking to the people.

4154
03:17:21,827 --> 03:17:25,448
"Nightmare 4", my effect
was Debbie's roach,

4155
03:17:25,448 --> 03:17:26,965
the girl that hates
the cockroach,

4156
03:17:26,965 --> 03:17:28,448
and then she
becomes a cockroach,

4157
03:17:28,448 --> 03:17:32,241
and then crushed by
Freddie.

4158
03:17:32,241 --> 03:17:36,655
That's like Kafka,
you know?

4159
03:17:36,655 --> 03:17:39,344
And this is a surreal sequence.

4160
03:17:39,344 --> 03:17:41,206
The fake body, we take it off

4161
03:17:41,206 --> 03:17:43,137
so she can put her head out,

4162
03:17:43,137 --> 03:17:45,758
and fake arm, it breaks.

4163
03:17:45,758 --> 03:17:48,758
It's old trick, but the images,

4164
03:17:48,758 --> 03:17:51,896
and what happening,
really creep them out.

4165
03:17:52,793 --> 03:17:54,620
Everybody is like really, ugh!

4166
03:17:56,517 --> 03:17:58,000
That's gross!

4167
03:17:58,000 --> 03:18:00,620
I succeeded the illusion.

4168
03:18:01,620 --> 03:18:04,344
I'm very proud of that show.

4169
03:18:10,068 --> 03:18:11,275
It was Brian Yuzna.

4170
03:18:11,275 --> 03:18:14,000
We were really creating
the scene together.

4171
03:18:14,000 --> 03:18:16,241
Especially the
chanting sequence.

4172
03:18:16,241 --> 03:18:21,000
It's a real grotesque
orgy.

4173
03:18:26,000 --> 03:18:27,517
I love Dali.

4174
03:18:27,517 --> 03:18:31,793
Dali is the one that
made me really into art.

4175
03:18:31,793 --> 03:18:34,758
My crew was all
inside, you know?

4176
03:18:34,758 --> 03:18:37,000
Inside of that creature.

4177
03:18:37,000 --> 03:18:38,206
They can move.

4178
03:18:38,206 --> 03:18:41,620
That's why you don't
have to have expensive

4179
03:18:41,620 --> 03:18:43,482
mechanical movement, you know?

4180
03:18:44,689 --> 03:18:47,103
And the people can
move organically.

4181
03:18:51,103 --> 03:18:54,586
I put in my 200, 300% on it.

4182
03:18:54,586 --> 03:18:58,241
So my sleeping time is
really maybe average

4183
03:18:58,241 --> 03:19:00,482
of two hours a
day, or something,

4184
03:19:00,482 --> 03:19:02,275
during the show.

4185
03:19:03,620 --> 03:19:05,724
There was not much
budget, so I just have to

4186
03:19:05,724 --> 03:19:08,517
sculpt everything
myself, pretty much.

4187
03:19:08,517 --> 03:19:10,103
And fast.

4188
03:19:14,379 --> 03:19:16,724
Making things for
"Bride of Re-Animator",

4189
03:19:16,724 --> 03:19:20,000
we didn't have enough
time to shoot everything

4190
03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:21,172
that we wanted to do.

4191
03:19:21,172 --> 03:19:23,379
It was very rushed.

4192
03:19:23,379 --> 03:19:26,275
Herbert West, he does
a bunch of experiments,

4193
03:19:26,275 --> 03:19:30,000
so I can do so many
different idea.

4194
03:19:34,827 --> 03:19:38,586
The design comes in as
outrageous as possible.

4195
03:19:38,586 --> 03:19:42,862
You stupid biped!

4196
03:19:44,137 --> 03:19:49,137
Vietnam veteran,
Noble Craig, is an actor

4197
03:19:49,137 --> 03:19:51,172
who is amputee.

4198
03:19:51,172 --> 03:19:54,620
I've been working with him
since "Poltergeist II".

4199
03:19:54,620 --> 03:19:58,172
The vomit creature,
crawl across the room,

4200
03:19:58,172 --> 03:20:00,517
that is Craig.

4201
03:20:05,344 --> 03:20:07,517
And then "Big Trouble
in Little China",

4202
03:20:07,517 --> 03:20:11,172
sewer creature, the creature
comes out from a tunnel,

4203
03:20:11,172 --> 03:20:13,620
eats the guy, and then
comes back, right?

4204
03:20:13,620 --> 03:20:15,206
That's it.

4205
03:20:15,206 --> 03:20:17,793
It took three months
to make it.

4206
03:20:17,793 --> 03:20:20,931
That too, Noble
Craig is inside there

4207
03:20:20,931 --> 03:20:22,517
in special makeup effects.

4208
03:20:22,517 --> 03:20:26,551
I think that is one of
the evolutional happenings

4209
03:20:26,551 --> 03:20:29,620
happened in film industry.

4210
03:20:29,620 --> 03:20:34,620
When I was in Japan, first
I call myself Toshusi Mad,

4211
03:20:35,862 --> 03:20:37,620
and then I wanted
to have something

4212
03:20:37,620 --> 03:20:39,448
that is really crazy.

4213
03:20:39,448 --> 03:20:43,931
Mad is something that is
much more crazier than crazy,

4214
03:20:43,931 --> 03:20:45,620
I think, you know what I mean?

4215
03:20:45,620 --> 03:20:46,655
More power with it.

4216
03:20:47,862 --> 03:20:50,965
And then I remember
the blues singer

4217
03:20:50,965 --> 03:20:53,827
named Screaming Jay Hawkins.

4218
03:20:54,758 --> 03:20:59,137
If I use Screaming Mad George.

4219
03:20:59,137 --> 03:21:00,862
That sounds good.

4220
03:21:00,862 --> 03:21:04,068
Screaming Mad George
is my artist name.

4221
03:21:23,448 --> 03:21:26,103
"Witchboard".

4222
03:21:26,103 --> 03:21:28,275
"Witchboard" is the
reason I will not allow

4223
03:21:28,275 --> 03:21:30,689
a Ouija board in my
house to this day.

4224
03:21:30,689 --> 03:21:32,551
Don't come into my house
with a Ouija board.

4225
03:21:36,103 --> 03:21:37,758
All I ever wanted
to do was figure out

4226
03:21:37,758 --> 03:21:38,862
where I could get a Ouija board.

4227
03:21:38,862 --> 03:21:40,620
I wanna try this thing out.

4228
03:21:40,620 --> 03:21:41,482
Can you hear me?

4229
03:21:44,827 --> 03:21:48,517
That movie came out
right at the right time

4230
03:21:48,517 --> 03:21:49,689
for my puberty.

4231
03:21:50,862 --> 03:21:55,517
Tawny Kitaen, the
quintessential wow.

4232
03:21:56,689 --> 03:21:59,517
I had already seen her
in "Bachelor Party".

4233
03:21:59,517 --> 03:22:01,862
I'd seen her in all the
fucking Whitesnake videos

4234
03:22:01,862 --> 03:22:02,689
at that point.

4235
03:22:03,896 --> 03:22:06,379
♪ Well here I go
again on my own ♪

4236
03:22:06,379 --> 03:22:08,965
Doing flips on the cars,
and splits and things.

4237
03:22:08,965 --> 03:22:11,103
It was very impressive.

4238
03:22:11,103 --> 03:22:12,620
I'd really like to try this.

4239
03:22:16,241 --> 03:22:18,241
"Witchboard" is about somebody

4240
03:22:18,241 --> 03:22:21,448
who becomes obsessed
with the Ouija board.

4241
03:22:21,448 --> 03:22:23,793
David, do you remember me?

4242
03:22:23,793 --> 03:22:28,793
A Ouija board that then
opens the portal of hell

4243
03:22:29,379 --> 03:22:30,482
to a demon.

4244
03:22:30,482 --> 03:22:32,068
Ooh, that's a little spooky.

4245
03:22:32,965 --> 03:22:33,793
It's a little stupid.

4246
03:22:33,793 --> 03:22:35,448
It's a lot stupid.

4247
03:22:35,448 --> 03:22:38,896
The visceral horror and
gore that starts to happen

4248
03:22:38,896 --> 03:22:42,137
once the horror is
unleashed in "Witchboard".

4249
03:22:42,137 --> 03:22:44,000
It really scared
the crap out of me

4250
03:22:44,000 --> 03:22:45,448
in a really fun way.

4251
03:22:48,206 --> 03:22:49,551
It's the very first
film that we got

4252
03:22:49,551 --> 03:22:50,793
from Kevin Tenney.

4253
03:22:50,793 --> 03:22:53,724
This was a precursor to
"Night of the Demons".

4254
03:22:53,724 --> 03:22:55,724
He starts to frighten
and terrorize her,

4255
03:22:55,724 --> 03:22:58,000
gradually breaking
down her resistance.

4256
03:22:58,000 --> 03:23:00,655
And once that's done,
he's able to possess her.

4257
03:23:00,655 --> 03:23:03,620
The thing that Kevin
Tenney brought to the table

4258
03:23:03,620 --> 03:23:06,620
that set him apart from other
directors I've worked with

4259
03:23:06,620 --> 03:23:10,517
was his sense of humor and
his passion for horror.

4260
03:23:13,689 --> 03:23:15,344
Ouija board was copyrighted

4261
03:23:15,344 --> 03:23:17,517
so that he couldn't call
his movie "Ouija Board",

4262
03:23:17,517 --> 03:23:19,275
so he changed it
to "Witchboard".

4263
03:23:19,275 --> 03:23:22,000
It's pronounced
Ouija, not Ouij-i.

4264
03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:25,000
It comes from the French
and German words for yes.

4265
03:23:25,000 --> 03:23:26,275
Oui and ja.

4266
03:23:26,275 --> 03:23:27,827
Ouija.

4267
03:23:27,827 --> 03:23:30,206
It was great working with
the late great Tawny Kitaen.

4268
03:23:30,206 --> 03:23:31,965
You must be Linda.

4269
03:23:31,965 --> 03:23:33,551
She was fun to act with.

4270
03:23:33,551 --> 03:23:35,206
She had a little brown dog

4271
03:23:35,206 --> 03:23:37,172
that she brought on
the set all the time.

4272
03:23:37,172 --> 03:23:38,931
Jim, this is Zarabeth.

4273
03:23:38,931 --> 03:23:41,068
The best medium in
northern California.

4274
03:23:42,000 --> 03:23:44,068
When we did that seance scene,

4275
03:23:44,068 --> 03:23:45,793
every time they'd say action,

4276
03:23:45,793 --> 03:23:48,344
and I'd go like, whoo.

4277
03:23:48,344 --> 03:23:50,241
Pretend like the
boy was in my body.

4278
03:23:50,241 --> 03:23:52,793
I'd look over at her and
she'd be like,,

4279
03:23:52,793 --> 03:23:56,275
she'd start laughing, and
then we all start laughing.

4280
03:23:56,275 --> 03:23:58,310
And nobody could ever
pull it together.

4281
03:23:58,310 --> 03:24:00,586
And I was like, I can't do this!

4282
03:24:00,586 --> 03:24:02,068
It was so goofy.

4283
03:24:02,068 --> 03:24:05,137
But with the scary music,
when we finally got a take,

4284
03:24:05,137 --> 03:24:07,551
it worked, you know
they put a weird effect

4285
03:24:07,551 --> 03:24:09,344
on my voice or
something like that.

4286
03:24:09,344 --> 03:24:11,172
She hurt me.

4287
03:24:12,448 --> 03:24:14,448
She won't talk to me anymore.

4288
03:24:14,448 --> 03:24:17,793
Zarabeth to me is definitely
a highlight of "Witchboard".

4289
03:24:19,034 --> 03:24:22,103
Just some more psychic
humor.

4290
03:24:22,103 --> 03:24:23,931
Come on Brandy, let's
hit the musky dusk.

4291
03:24:23,931 --> 03:24:26,689
Her death is so gnarly, too.

4292
03:24:31,103 --> 03:24:33,413
They'd say action,
and then I'd get to

4293
03:24:33,413 --> 03:24:36,275
pretend like I land
on the sundial,

4294
03:24:36,275 --> 03:24:39,413
and I had got one of those
blood pills in my mouth,

4295
03:24:39,413 --> 03:24:43,344
and I did get to
go like,

4296
03:24:44,862 --> 03:24:47,620
and like split out blood,

4297
03:24:47,620 --> 03:24:49,620
which I adored.

4298
03:24:49,620 --> 03:24:54,000
They had taped the top
of the sundial to my back

4299
03:24:54,000 --> 03:24:58,310
so I ran down the set,

4300
03:24:58,310 --> 03:25:00,896
pretending like I was a shark.

4301
03:25:00,896 --> 03:25:02,379
I see danger ahead.

4302
03:25:04,103 --> 03:25:05,137
For Linda?

4303
03:25:05,137 --> 03:25:06,517
For you.

4304
03:25:06,517 --> 03:25:07,758
If you miss my house.

4305
03:25:07,758 --> 03:25:12,137
On "Witchboard", I had
so much fun laughing.

4306
03:25:13,620 --> 03:25:17,620
It's coming up on
the right!

4307
03:25:17,620 --> 03:25:19,000
A little more
psychic humor, huh?

4308
03:25:19,000 --> 03:25:22,379
With tears and
belly laughs everyday.

4309
03:25:27,448 --> 03:25:28,482
Tawny Kitaen.

4310
03:25:28,482 --> 03:25:30,827
When I saw that she died,

4311
03:25:30,827 --> 03:25:33,000
I felt loss, and sadness.

4312
03:25:33,000 --> 03:25:35,862
She was a blast, and
funny, and smart,

4313
03:25:35,862 --> 03:25:39,068
and lovely, and it's
weird for me to even think

4314
03:25:39,068 --> 03:25:40,344
that she's not around.

4315
03:25:40,344 --> 03:25:42,068
It's bizarre to me.

4316
03:25:47,896 --> 03:25:51,241
"Blood Rage", also
known as "Slasher",

4317
03:25:51,241 --> 03:25:54,103
and "Nightmare at Shadow Woods".

4318
03:25:54,103 --> 03:25:55,655
I mean it's like,
make up your minds,

4319
03:25:55,655 --> 03:25:56,586
will you people?

4320
03:25:58,103 --> 03:26:00,862
There's so few
Thanksgiving horror movies,

4321
03:26:00,862 --> 03:26:04,068
that I feel like this has
kind of had a resurgence

4322
03:26:04,068 --> 03:26:06,793
in recent years,
because everybody wants

4323
03:26:06,793 --> 03:26:09,413
a horror movie to
watch on the holidays.

4324
03:26:15,448 --> 03:26:18,517
Twin boys, one crazy, one not.

4325
03:26:19,413 --> 03:26:20,482
There's a mix-up.

4326
03:26:20,482 --> 03:26:22,241
One gets put in an asylum.

4327
03:26:22,241 --> 03:26:23,758
One's out loose.

4328
03:26:23,758 --> 03:26:24,862
Nobody in the movie knows.

4329
03:26:24,862 --> 03:26:27,068
Everyone in the audience knows.

4330
03:26:27,068 --> 03:26:28,275
Here's to the new family.

4331
03:26:28,275 --> 03:26:30,172
"Blood Rage" is about
a Thanksgiving meal

4332
03:26:30,172 --> 03:26:33,448
that just goes completely
awash in blood.

4333
03:26:33,448 --> 03:26:35,137
I'm not a fan of horror.

4334
03:26:35,137 --> 03:26:36,965
When I got "Blood
Rage", it was a new

4335
03:26:36,965 --> 03:26:38,827
genre for me completely.

4336
03:26:40,310 --> 03:26:43,310
I went to the video store, and
went to the horror section.

4337
03:26:43,310 --> 03:26:46,103
I literally had to go
and investigate it.

4338
03:26:46,103 --> 03:26:49,034
What, are you gonna try
and shoot me again, Todd?

4339
03:26:49,034 --> 03:26:51,344
It's twins.

4340
03:26:51,344 --> 03:26:52,275
You know?

4341
03:26:52,275 --> 03:26:53,758
So I'm going, are they kidding?

4342
03:26:53,758 --> 03:26:55,310
Do they know what they're
getting involved with?

4343
03:26:55,310 --> 03:26:57,827
That's a chore for most
people in any film,

4344
03:26:57,827 --> 03:26:59,689
let alone on a low budget.

4345
03:27:01,068 --> 03:27:04,068
I broke it down, Stanislavski,
building a character.

4346
03:27:04,068 --> 03:27:06,413
The psychopath, you know?

4347
03:27:06,413 --> 03:27:10,931
And then the other guy was
closer to what I usually played,

4348
03:27:10,931 --> 03:27:13,000
the sort of hate
yourself, low esteem,

4349
03:27:13,000 --> 03:27:14,482
I'd played a couple
of prisoners,

4350
03:27:14,482 --> 03:27:16,931
and stuff like that,
and mixed up kids.

4351
03:27:16,931 --> 03:27:17,896
Very intense.

4352
03:27:24,689 --> 03:27:26,000
"Blood Rage" operates in a world

4353
03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:30,482
where it's the family
Thanksgiving and murder.

4354
03:27:30,482 --> 03:27:31,655
Looks like you're
gonna get a chance

4355
03:27:31,655 --> 03:27:33,448
to meet the rest of the family.

4356
03:27:33,448 --> 03:27:35,724
My psychotic brother
just escaped.

4357
03:27:36,965 --> 03:27:38,551
It's the turkey
and killing people.

4358
03:27:38,551 --> 03:27:40,034
It's rich.

4359
03:27:40,034 --> 03:27:44,724
I'd say that this big
bird is ready for carving.

4360
03:27:44,724 --> 03:27:47,517
Why does this
make me so crazy?

4361
03:27:47,517 --> 03:27:49,586
Time to eat, let's all sit down.

4362
03:27:49,586 --> 03:27:51,068
It's time for dinner.

4363
03:27:51,068 --> 03:27:52,758
Look what the cat brought in!

4364
03:27:59,448 --> 03:28:03,275
Louise Lasser gives
110% in that movie.

4365
03:28:03,275 --> 03:28:05,000
She's incredible.

4366
03:28:05,000 --> 03:28:08,000
She was, god bless
her, a force of nature.

4367
03:28:08,000 --> 03:28:10,448
Mary Hartman was
seminal TV, man.

4368
03:28:10,448 --> 03:28:12,137
That was hot stuff.

4369
03:28:12,137 --> 03:28:14,965
You know, murder with
no reason, or no motive,

4370
03:28:14,965 --> 03:28:17,206
I mean really senseless,
when you think about it.

4371
03:28:17,206 --> 03:28:19,586
Do you think this is too
spicy, or not spicy enough?

4372
03:28:19,586 --> 03:28:21,862
She set the tone
for "Nightmare Mom".

4373
03:28:21,862 --> 03:28:24,137
She creates the
world for the film

4374
03:28:24,137 --> 03:28:25,137
Oh please.

4375
03:28:27,827 --> 03:28:29,965
Please don't do this to me.

4376
03:28:31,344 --> 03:28:33,241
She had that
voice, she would just

4377
03:28:33,241 --> 03:28:35,965
get into these states.

4378
03:28:35,965 --> 03:28:38,034
She was transformed.

4379
03:28:38,034 --> 03:28:40,137
Come give mommy a kiss.

4380
03:28:40,137 --> 03:28:42,137
That scene around
the refrigerator?

4381
03:28:42,137 --> 03:28:43,379
I mean, come on.

4382
03:28:43,379 --> 03:28:45,896
This is a woman who's
freaking out over food.

4383
03:28:45,896 --> 03:28:48,068
And it's so over the top.

4384
03:28:48,068 --> 03:28:50,551
I've been calling
you and calling you!

4385
03:28:50,551 --> 03:28:53,310
Why didn't you answer the phone?

4386
03:28:53,310 --> 03:28:54,482
Todd's here!

4387
03:28:54,482 --> 03:28:56,103
And he's killing again!

4388
03:28:56,103 --> 03:28:57,103
She was bringing it.

4389
03:28:57,103 --> 03:28:58,862
She got an applause on the set,

4390
03:28:58,862 --> 03:29:01,000
and I've only been
around that a few times.

4391
03:29:05,000 --> 03:29:06,206
It's bananas.

4392
03:29:06,206 --> 03:29:08,896
It's a movie where
no one in the movie

4393
03:29:08,896 --> 03:29:11,206
is making the same movie as
anyone else in the movie.

4394
03:29:11,206 --> 03:29:13,482
They're all singing
in their own key,

4395
03:29:13,482 --> 03:29:14,931
and the movie's all
the better for it.

4396
03:29:14,931 --> 03:29:16,620
It's unhinged, it's delightful.

4397
03:29:22,655 --> 03:29:24,793
Shooting a melodrama
like "Blood Rage"

4398
03:29:24,793 --> 03:29:26,344
is a whole different thing.

4399
03:29:26,344 --> 03:29:28,413
You can tear up the furniture.

4400
03:29:28,413 --> 03:29:33,206
You can do crazy stuff you
just don't normally get to do.

4401
03:29:37,896 --> 03:29:39,206
It's horror, low budget horror.

4402
03:29:39,206 --> 03:29:40,931
But this had a building audience

4403
03:29:40,931 --> 03:29:42,724
and a genre that had legs.

4404
03:29:42,724 --> 03:29:43,862
It was like heavy metal, man.

4405
03:29:43,862 --> 03:29:45,793
This ain't going away.

4406
03:29:48,448 --> 03:29:49,103
This is gonna be a
decades long thing.

4407
03:29:49,103 --> 03:29:49,931
Get used to it.

4408
03:29:51,000 --> 03:29:52,620
It's not cranberry
sauce, Artie.

4409
03:29:55,103 --> 03:29:57,103
It's not cranberry sauce.

4410
03:30:03,034 --> 03:30:06,724
They
have opened "The Gate".

4411
03:30:07,620 --> 03:30:09,482
Pray it's not too late.

4412
03:30:09,482 --> 03:30:11,655
One of the greatest
things about "The Gate"

4413
03:30:11,655 --> 03:30:13,586
is that for a lot of
kids at that time,

4414
03:30:13,586 --> 03:30:16,413
it became their
gateway horror movie,

4415
03:30:16,413 --> 03:30:18,793
because it felt
like a kids movie

4416
03:30:18,793 --> 03:30:22,206
that didn't play by
the kids movies rules.

4417
03:30:22,206 --> 03:30:23,172
Already filled it in.

4418
03:30:23,172 --> 03:30:25,068
Whoa, whoa!

4419
03:30:25,068 --> 03:30:26,896
"The Gate" is
about a group of kids

4420
03:30:26,896 --> 03:30:28,551
that dig a hole
in their backyard,

4421
03:30:28,551 --> 03:30:30,758
and find demons.

4422
03:30:31,965 --> 03:30:33,034
Hi.

4423
03:30:33,034 --> 03:30:33,896
Hey.

4424
03:30:38,344 --> 03:30:40,034
It's a PG-13 horror film.

4425
03:30:40,034 --> 03:30:41,620
I always saw it as a film

4426
03:30:41,620 --> 03:30:43,620
that the whole
family could watch,

4427
03:30:43,620 --> 03:30:46,689
that adults could
be sort of nostalgic

4428
03:30:46,689 --> 03:30:50,000
about growing up, and kids
could find an adventure in it.

4429
03:30:50,000 --> 03:30:51,206
Sacrifices.

4430
03:30:51,206 --> 03:30:53,103
We had so much fun
making that movie,

4431
03:30:53,103 --> 03:30:54,931
even though it was
very difficult.

4432
03:30:54,931 --> 03:30:56,172
Money was short.

4433
03:30:56,172 --> 03:30:58,275
All those people put
their heart into it.

4434
03:30:58,275 --> 03:31:01,620
The actors, the writers,
the special effects people.

4435
03:31:06,241 --> 03:31:10,000
We were able to pull the
most out of everybody.

4436
03:31:10,000 --> 03:31:12,586
The album, backwards!

4437
03:31:13,862 --> 03:31:15,724
Tells you how to close the gate.

4438
03:31:15,724 --> 03:31:19,103
It's like the first heavy
metal horror movie for kids.

4439
03:31:19,103 --> 03:31:20,655
They got their
lyrics from this thing

4440
03:31:20,655 --> 03:31:21,724
called the Dark Book.

4441
03:31:22,655 --> 03:31:24,310
It's like the Bible for demons.

4442
03:31:24,310 --> 03:31:25,620
So you have
somebody like Tibor,

4443
03:31:25,620 --> 03:31:27,586
who had a background working

4444
03:31:27,586 --> 03:31:29,344
in heavy metal music videos

4445
03:31:29,344 --> 03:31:32,068
coming in and being
able to infuse that

4446
03:31:32,068 --> 03:31:35,413
into this kids movie
is pretty astounding.

4447
03:31:37,586 --> 03:31:40,448
It's always much
scarier when horror

4448
03:31:40,448 --> 03:31:43,275
comes into the normal world.

4449
03:31:45,344 --> 03:31:47,379
Stephen Dorff was
just so cool to me

4450
03:31:47,379 --> 03:31:48,793
when I was a kid.

4451
03:31:48,793 --> 03:31:51,137
It seemed like something
that could happen to me.

4452
03:31:51,137 --> 03:31:52,586
I could look down in my backyard

4453
03:31:52,586 --> 03:31:54,413
and I was always sure
there was the potential

4454
03:31:54,413 --> 03:31:56,965
for a portal, monsters.

4455
03:32:02,482 --> 03:32:04,827
I always feel kids
can make great actors

4456
03:32:04,827 --> 03:32:08,034
if you can key into them,
you treat them like adults.

4457
03:32:08,034 --> 03:32:09,517
When they're in the
right frame of mind,

4458
03:32:09,517 --> 03:32:11,000
you can do amazing things,

4459
03:32:11,000 --> 03:32:12,896
and get very real performances.

4460
03:32:12,896 --> 03:32:14,379
We have to close the gate.

4461
03:32:14,379 --> 03:32:16,241
We have to go to the
hole and do it right.

4462
03:32:16,241 --> 03:32:18,689
You mean you guys were
serious about that demon stuff?

4463
03:32:18,689 --> 03:32:20,620
The main theme
of "The Gate" to me

4464
03:32:20,620 --> 03:32:24,758
is sibling relationships
and friendship

4465
03:32:24,758 --> 03:32:27,655
to overcome insurmountable odds.

4466
03:32:27,655 --> 03:32:29,172
You need your friends.

4467
03:32:32,827 --> 03:32:34,551
I think of all the
effects that they were

4468
03:32:34,551 --> 03:32:37,379
able to do in that
movie courtesy of
Randall William Cook.

4469
03:32:42,448 --> 03:32:43,724
I was already reading Fangoria

4470
03:32:43,724 --> 03:32:45,586
and I was into the
effect part of it,

4471
03:32:45,586 --> 03:32:47,862
like the technical part
of horror filmmaking.

4472
03:32:47,862 --> 03:32:50,758
I knew that we would have to
use an encyclopedia of effects.

4473
03:32:50,758 --> 03:32:53,172
There was no one solution
to all that stuff.

4474
03:32:53,172 --> 03:32:55,862
And thank goodness
that Randy was so good

4475
03:32:55,862 --> 03:32:57,862
at all of those things.

4476
03:33:01,793 --> 03:33:03,482
When the workman falls over
and breaks into the minions,

4477
03:33:03,482 --> 03:33:06,931
that to me is like a
seminal important moment

4478
03:33:06,931 --> 03:33:08,689
in the movie where you go wow.

4479
03:33:08,689 --> 03:33:10,517
Even I go wow.

4480
03:33:13,517 --> 03:33:16,965
But it is still cool as
hell to watch that sequence,

4481
03:33:16,965 --> 03:33:19,000
and I wish we got more movies

4482
03:33:19,000 --> 03:33:20,827
that tried to do stuff
like that more these days.

4483
03:33:20,827 --> 03:33:23,241
Like, I don't care if
it looks a little dated.

4484
03:33:23,241 --> 03:33:24,172
I don't.

4485
03:33:24,172 --> 03:33:25,275
Because it's still magic to me.

4486
03:33:26,689 --> 03:33:28,655
It's like a bespoke movie.

4487
03:33:28,655 --> 03:33:30,068
It's handmade.

4488
03:33:30,068 --> 03:33:31,655
It's kind of rough around
the edges that way.

4489
03:33:31,655 --> 03:33:33,620
That's what draws people to it.

4490
03:33:33,620 --> 03:33:35,620
They can see the love
that went into it.

4491
03:33:46,482 --> 03:33:48,379
"Rock 'n' Roll
Nightmare" is the story

4492
03:33:48,379 --> 03:33:52,586
of a band called The
Tritons, led by Thor,

4493
03:33:52,586 --> 03:33:56,724
who was a very popular
wrestler, rock and roller.

4494
03:33:56,724 --> 03:33:59,034
He was very popular
up in Canada.

4495
03:33:59,034 --> 03:34:03,275
So this band comes to
this tiny little farmhouse

4496
03:34:03,275 --> 03:34:05,137
on the outskirts of Toronto

4497
03:34:05,137 --> 03:34:07,862
to record their new album.

4498
03:34:07,862 --> 03:34:09,379
It's kind of like a vacation.

4499
03:34:09,379 --> 03:34:11,655
I like it.

4500
03:34:11,655 --> 03:34:12,482
You would.

4501
03:34:12,482 --> 03:34:13,310
Come on you two.

4502
03:34:13,310 --> 03:34:14,586
Don't start.

4503
03:34:14,586 --> 03:34:15,965
It turns out that
they are in a house

4504
03:34:15,965 --> 03:34:18,931
that had been possessed.

4505
03:34:21,965 --> 03:34:24,413
And one by one, they
start being killed off

4506
03:34:24,413 --> 03:34:25,931
by these demos.

4507
03:34:30,448 --> 03:34:31,517
Kind of this quirky movie

4508
03:34:31,517 --> 03:34:33,310
directed by John Fasano.

4509
03:34:33,310 --> 03:34:34,931
It's hard to call
these things demons.

4510
03:34:34,931 --> 03:34:35,965
They're puppets.

4511
03:34:37,551 --> 03:34:38,379
I can
destroy and destruct-

4512
03:34:40,172 --> 03:34:44,000
Demons that are rejects
from Fraggle Rock.

4513
03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:46,896
We talked so much
about the glorious age

4514
03:34:46,896 --> 03:34:48,896
of practical effects of the 80s,

4515
03:34:48,896 --> 03:34:52,655
but sometimes, they
were not so glorious.

4516
03:34:58,103 --> 03:34:59,758
My favorite monster effect

4517
03:34:59,758 --> 03:35:02,620
in "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare"
is one that I did.

4518
03:35:02,620 --> 03:35:03,931
The chicken monster.

4519
03:35:06,241 --> 03:35:08,448
That was a really fun
project to work on.

4520
03:35:08,448 --> 03:35:10,413
And then I got to puppeteer it.

4521
03:35:14,793 --> 03:35:17,137
Jon Thor is a sweetheart.

4522
03:35:17,137 --> 03:35:18,551
He's always so positive.

4523
03:35:18,551 --> 03:35:20,275
He was up for anything.

4524
03:35:20,275 --> 03:35:22,965
♪ You get me any day

4525
03:35:22,965 --> 03:35:24,172
♪ Energy

4526
03:35:24,172 --> 03:35:26,931
It was November,
and we had that wind

4527
03:35:26,931 --> 03:35:28,689
coming off of Lake Ontario,

4528
03:35:28,689 --> 03:35:30,965
hitting you like a brick wall.

4529
03:35:30,965 --> 03:35:32,620
This house that we
were shooting in,

4530
03:35:32,620 --> 03:35:35,724
which had no electricity,
had no hot water,

4531
03:35:35,724 --> 03:35:39,000
and they're in a shower,
buck naked in this shower,

4532
03:35:39,000 --> 03:35:41,655
freezing to death.

4533
03:35:41,655 --> 03:35:44,379
I mean, that water was ice cold.

4534
03:35:44,379 --> 03:35:47,517
But the ending is
not to be missed.

4535
03:35:50,758 --> 03:35:53,965
I walked onto set, and
I saw Jon standing there

4536
03:35:53,965 --> 03:35:57,655
in this little gold
speedo, and codpiece,

4537
03:35:57,655 --> 03:36:00,206
and this gold lame cape.

4538
03:36:00,206 --> 03:36:01,482
And at one point, I looked over,

4539
03:36:01,482 --> 03:36:03,827
and I could see his
cape was starting

4540
03:36:03,827 --> 03:36:05,965
to spark and catch fire.

4541
03:36:05,965 --> 03:36:07,482
Oh my god, that would have been

4542
03:36:07,482 --> 03:36:10,413
just the icing on
the cake for sure.

4543
03:36:12,620 --> 03:36:14,896
Of course, you gotta love
the big devil at the end.

4544
03:36:14,896 --> 03:36:17,000
It was a disaster.

4545
03:36:18,137 --> 03:36:19,413
Nice effect, Randy.

4546
03:36:19,413 --> 03:36:21,068
It weighed 50 pounds at least.

4547
03:36:21,068 --> 03:36:23,068
And it was so unwieldy.

4548
03:36:23,068 --> 03:36:24,862
It was just a mess.

4549
03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:27,586
But of course that's
the scene that everybody

4550
03:36:27,586 --> 03:36:30,689
loves the most in that movie,
because it's so outrageous.

4551
03:36:30,689 --> 03:36:32,827
Like you have to see
this to believe it.

4552
03:36:46,206 --> 03:36:48,448
"Jaws" follows in a
line of horror films

4553
03:36:48,448 --> 03:36:51,586
where nature is out to kill you.

4554
03:36:54,000 --> 03:36:57,344
"Jaws: The Revenge".

4555
03:36:57,344 --> 03:37:00,206
It's just the idea
that meeting a shark

4556
03:37:00,206 --> 03:37:01,862
face to face in the water

4557
03:37:01,862 --> 03:37:05,793
is more likely than finding
Jason Voorhees in the water.

4558
03:37:07,241 --> 03:37:09,000
The Jaws sequels were
never like the first movie,

4559
03:37:09,000 --> 03:37:10,862
and so anytime they
sequelize something,

4560
03:37:10,862 --> 03:37:13,000
it was like, oh god,
what are they gonna do?

4561
03:37:13,000 --> 03:37:15,793
Lorraine Gary,
who once again stars

4562
03:37:15,793 --> 03:37:18,137
as Chief Brody's
wife, now a widow,

4563
03:37:18,137 --> 03:37:20,310
she travels to the Bahamas,

4564
03:37:20,310 --> 03:37:22,103
and what do you know?

4565
03:37:22,103 --> 03:37:25,206
That goddam shark
is still after her.

4566
03:37:33,517 --> 03:37:36,172
And she's convinced
that the shark

4567
03:37:36,172 --> 03:37:38,172
is following her family,

4568
03:37:38,172 --> 03:37:41,068
and she seems to have
some telepathic link

4569
03:37:41,068 --> 03:37:42,586
with the shark.

4570
03:37:45,931 --> 03:37:48,620
It's such a far cry from
Spielberg's original.

4571
03:37:50,482 --> 03:37:53,310
Just like the idea of a
shark being a slasher movie

4572
03:37:53,310 --> 03:37:56,448
villain that's gonna
follow these people

4573
03:37:56,448 --> 03:37:59,793
from Amity Island
to the Bahamas.

4574
03:37:59,793 --> 03:38:02,551
It has a grudge against
the Brody family.

4575
03:38:02,551 --> 03:38:04,827
It's just absolutely ridiculous.

4576
03:38:04,827 --> 03:38:06,482
- Their family-
- What shark is this?

4577
03:38:06,482 --> 03:38:07,793
A friend
of the other shark.

4578
03:38:07,793 --> 03:38:09,034
Is this like a
cousin, a nephew?

4579
03:38:09,034 --> 03:38:10,000
You got it.

4580
03:38:10,000 --> 03:38:11,068
They just

4581
03:38:11,068 --> 03:38:12,931
put that movie
together, really quick.

4582
03:38:12,931 --> 03:38:14,862
They cast all of us
before they even made

4583
03:38:14,862 --> 03:38:17,137
the arrangements with
the special effects guys.

4584
03:38:17,137 --> 03:38:19,379
They kind of did them
almost at the last minute,

4585
03:38:19,379 --> 03:38:20,793
and they were like,
wait a minute.

4586
03:38:20,793 --> 03:38:23,586
We can't do this, what
you wrote in the script.

4587
03:38:23,586 --> 03:38:25,310
We can do something like this,

4588
03:38:25,310 --> 03:38:27,000
but we can't do that.

4589
03:38:27,000 --> 03:38:29,379
So they had to
rewrite the scripts.

4590
03:38:29,379 --> 03:38:30,862
I got a script that I thought

4591
03:38:30,862 --> 03:38:32,172
oh, this is a pretty
good script, you know?

4592
03:38:32,172 --> 03:38:33,689
I believe it, I play this guy.

4593
03:38:33,689 --> 03:38:35,241
Everything this guy
does makes sense.

4594
03:38:35,241 --> 03:38:36,689
This is not gonna be stupid.

4595
03:38:36,689 --> 03:38:38,137
It's gonna be great.

4596
03:38:38,137 --> 03:38:39,862
About three days before
we started shooting,

4597
03:38:39,862 --> 03:38:41,482
I get a new script

4598
03:38:41,482 --> 03:38:43,689
that accommodates all
the technical stuff

4599
03:38:43,689 --> 03:38:45,862
that can be done.

4600
03:38:45,862 --> 03:38:48,517
For me, was like, oh god.

4601
03:38:48,517 --> 03:38:50,482
I couldn't make sense of it,

4602
03:38:50,482 --> 03:38:52,241
so I was pissed
off all the time.

4603
03:38:53,655 --> 03:38:56,310
We were like that, you just
try not to make it unbelievable

4604
03:38:56,310 --> 03:38:58,310
and it's hard.

4605
03:39:03,448 --> 03:39:06,241
I didn't know sharks
sound like that.

4606
03:39:08,172 --> 03:39:09,448
Jesus Christ!

4607
03:39:12,655 --> 03:39:14,827
What's great about
it is Christmas.

4608
03:39:14,827 --> 03:39:16,379
Who saw that coming?

4609
03:39:16,379 --> 03:39:19,689
Like, "Jaws 4: The
Revenge", Christmas Jaws.

4610
03:39:19,689 --> 03:39:21,689
♪ The first noel

4611
03:39:21,689 --> 03:39:23,379
♪ The angels

4612
03:39:23,379 --> 03:39:25,000
We blew through
most of the acting

4613
03:39:25,000 --> 03:39:27,517
in three weeks in that movie.

4614
03:39:27,517 --> 03:39:29,482
I was on that movie
for five months.

4615
03:39:29,482 --> 03:39:32,551
So there was a lot of
sitting out in the ocean.

4616
03:39:32,551 --> 03:39:35,758
We spent months
sitting doing nothing

4617
03:39:35,758 --> 03:39:37,241
because the shark didn't work.

4618
03:39:38,413 --> 03:39:39,620
We were shooting this one scene,

4619
03:39:39,620 --> 03:39:41,793
and it was in a little,
little tiny rowboat.

4620
03:39:41,793 --> 03:39:43,275
The whole boat goes down.

4621
03:39:43,275 --> 03:39:45,931
The battery pack that
powers the camera

4622
03:39:45,931 --> 03:39:48,896
is encased in plastic,
but it might leak.

4623
03:39:48,896 --> 03:39:52,000
So as soon as that
becomes submerged,

4624
03:39:52,000 --> 03:39:55,000
this hand grabs me by the shirt

4625
03:39:55,000 --> 03:39:57,206
with one hand, yanks
me out of the boat.

4626
03:39:57,206 --> 03:39:58,137
It was Michael Caine.

4627
03:39:58,137 --> 03:40:00,379
Get the fuck out of that boat!

4628
03:40:00,379 --> 03:40:01,758
I mean, I don't know that I
would have been electrocuted,

4629
03:40:01,758 --> 03:40:03,551
but that's what he was thinking.

4630
03:40:03,551 --> 03:40:05,344
So he just acted like that.

4631
03:40:05,344 --> 03:40:07,103
Hang onto your socks, lads.

4632
03:40:07,103 --> 03:40:09,758
Michael Caine saved
my life.

4633
03:40:10,965 --> 03:40:14,862
Oh shit!

4634
03:40:22,517 --> 03:40:24,448
Even
if you kill them,

4635
03:40:24,448 --> 03:40:26,862
they're still deadly.

4636
03:40:26,862 --> 03:40:27,827
"Creepozoids".

4637
03:40:28,655 --> 03:40:29,689
"Creepozoids".

4638
03:40:29,689 --> 03:40:31,827
Fun movie, little TNA

4639
03:40:31,827 --> 03:40:33,965
with a wonderful
director, David DeCoteau,

4640
03:40:33,965 --> 03:40:36,517
who remains one of
my closest friends.

4641
03:40:41,379 --> 03:40:46,275
"Creepozoids" is a very,
very, very low budget alien.

4642
03:40:49,310 --> 03:40:51,758
It was really fun,
because we did it in,

4643
03:40:51,758 --> 03:40:55,000
which then, was really
quick, seven days.

4644
03:40:55,000 --> 03:40:57,482
This place may not have all
the comforts of civilization.

4645
03:40:57,482 --> 03:40:59,413
Civilization doesn't
have all the comforts

4646
03:40:59,413 --> 03:41:01,620
of civilization anymore.

4647
03:41:01,620 --> 03:41:02,551
That's just my point.

4648
03:41:02,551 --> 03:41:05,172
There's this horrible thing

4649
03:41:05,172 --> 03:41:07,965
out after us that was
not from this earth,

4650
03:41:07,965 --> 03:41:10,103
and it's killing us one by one.

4651
03:41:17,965 --> 03:41:21,379
When you are doing
low budget things,

4652
03:41:21,379 --> 03:41:24,241
the monsters are
usually very fragile.

4653
03:41:24,241 --> 03:41:27,000
You had to be very
careful of these monsters.

4654
03:41:27,000 --> 03:41:30,655
So you're battling,
but holding back too,

4655
03:41:30,655 --> 03:41:32,448
because you could break them.

4656
03:41:37,448 --> 03:41:39,241
My mom came to set,

4657
03:41:39,241 --> 03:41:41,517
and both of us are
afraid of rats.

4658
03:41:41,517 --> 03:41:42,620
So what do they have?

4659
03:41:42,620 --> 03:41:45,379
These huge rats.

4660
03:41:52,758 --> 03:41:54,655
It didn't look bad,
that baby mutant,

4661
03:41:54,655 --> 03:41:56,689
but it was kind of silly.

4662
03:41:59,689 --> 03:42:03,068
It was a fun adventure,
because that was the first time

4663
03:42:03,068 --> 03:42:06,896
I really got to fight,
and be like, no makeup,

4664
03:42:06,896 --> 03:42:08,517
and a soldier.

4665
03:42:10,000 --> 03:42:14,068
I did, in "Creepozoids",
hae to battle a stuntperson,

4666
03:42:14,068 --> 03:42:16,517
which was interesting,
because they go all out

4667
03:42:16,517 --> 03:42:18,068
I'm like oh, I'm
gonna get killed.

4668
03:42:18,068 --> 03:42:19,586
I'm gonna get hurt.

4669
03:42:22,482 --> 03:42:25,034
Linnea and I go
back to a movie I made

4670
03:42:25,034 --> 03:42:26,931
1000 years before that,
which is hard to believe,

4671
03:42:26,931 --> 03:42:29,000
called "Fairytales",
and before that,

4672
03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:31,137
a movie called "Auditions".

4673
03:42:31,137 --> 03:42:32,413
It
became apparent that most

4674
03:42:32,413 --> 03:42:35,000
of the female applicants
were non-professionals.

4675
03:42:35,000 --> 03:42:37,344
The whole idea was
they would come in,

4676
03:42:37,344 --> 03:42:40,000
sign a release, get
paid I think $10,

4677
03:42:40,000 --> 03:42:42,379
because we made it clear
that their audition

4678
03:42:42,379 --> 03:42:44,068
was gonna be used in the movie.

4679
03:42:44,068 --> 03:42:45,724
And the girls had to
take their tops off,

4680
03:42:45,724 --> 03:42:47,862
because they had
to be kind of sexy

4681
03:42:47,862 --> 03:42:49,241
fairy godmother, Cinderella.

4682
03:42:49,241 --> 03:42:50,931
I forget the story.

4683
03:42:50,931 --> 03:42:52,724
Many years later,
suddenly she's back

4684
03:42:52,724 --> 03:42:55,103
as a more mature
still very young woman

4685
03:42:55,103 --> 03:42:57,137
in the lead of "Creepozoids".

4686
03:42:57,137 --> 03:42:59,586
When I did "Creepozoids",
this one girl

4687
03:42:59,586 --> 03:43:02,137
would not do a topless scene.

4688
03:43:02,137 --> 03:43:03,620
She was such a prude, I thought.

4689
03:43:03,620 --> 03:43:06,172
And she was doing all
this backstory on herself,

4690
03:43:06,172 --> 03:43:08,517
like who is my mother,
who is my father.

4691
03:43:08,517 --> 03:43:11,517
On a $60,000 film.

4692
03:43:11,517 --> 03:43:13,275
But she went on to big things.

4693
03:43:13,275 --> 03:43:15,241
She became a porn star.

4694
03:43:15,241 --> 03:43:17,172
And I was like, wait a minute.

4695
03:43:17,172 --> 03:43:18,344
You wouldn't take off your top.

4696
03:43:18,344 --> 03:43:19,827
Now you're a porn star.

4697
03:43:19,827 --> 03:43:22,758
Let's not turn this into
a slumber party, okay?

4698
03:43:40,068 --> 03:43:42,206
"Zombie Nightmare" is
the story of a young man

4699
03:43:42,206 --> 03:43:45,241
who is murdered,
run over with a car

4700
03:43:45,241 --> 03:43:47,344
by these bunch of teenagers.

4701
03:43:50,482 --> 03:43:53,310
His mother goes
to a voodoo woman

4702
03:43:53,310 --> 03:43:54,758
to bring him back to life

4703
03:43:54,758 --> 03:43:57,620
to take revenge on these kids,

4704
03:43:57,620 --> 03:43:59,000
these spoiled brats.

4705
03:44:00,379 --> 03:44:01,379
See look, I told you.

4706
03:44:01,379 --> 03:44:02,586
There's nobody here.

4707
03:44:06,724 --> 03:44:09,896
At the same time,
there are two detectives

4708
03:44:09,896 --> 03:44:11,448
working to try to figure out

4709
03:44:11,448 --> 03:44:13,413
who's killing these kids.

4710
03:44:13,413 --> 03:44:15,344
Let's not have any
more high school kids

4711
03:44:15,344 --> 03:44:16,689
turn up dead.

4712
03:44:16,689 --> 03:44:17,896
Understand?

4713
03:44:17,896 --> 03:44:21,034
The script was
actually much better

4714
03:44:21,034 --> 03:44:24,965
than the final film, that
John Fasano wrote, by the way.

4715
03:44:24,965 --> 03:44:28,000
It was about racial
tensions, also.

4716
03:44:28,000 --> 03:44:28,931
Pretty young thing
has just walked

4717
03:44:28,931 --> 03:44:30,379
into the wrong neighborhood.

4718
03:44:30,379 --> 03:44:32,413
I do believe you're
right, Mr. Barnes.

4719
03:44:32,413 --> 03:44:33,620
Hey, don't be so uptight-

4720
03:44:33,620 --> 03:44:35,827
I went to Montreal
with Adam West.

4721
03:44:35,827 --> 03:44:37,172
It was surreal.

4722
03:44:37,172 --> 03:44:38,862
It was like, I
can't believe this.

4723
03:44:38,862 --> 03:44:41,551
I'm acting in a monster movie

4724
03:44:41,551 --> 03:44:43,379
with my childhood hero.

4725
03:44:43,379 --> 03:44:44,310
Come on, Frank.

4726
03:44:45,379 --> 03:44:46,827
I'll buy you a drink.

4727
03:44:47,758 --> 03:44:50,000
Jon Thor, he actually replaced

4728
03:44:50,000 --> 03:44:53,379
the original zombie actor
in "Zombie Nightmare".

4729
03:44:53,379 --> 03:44:57,000
We actually filmed the
end of the movie first

4730
03:44:57,000 --> 03:45:00,689
so the zombie was still played
by Peewee, the stuntman.

4731
03:45:00,689 --> 03:45:02,793
And he's big guy.

4732
03:45:07,793 --> 03:45:11,379
I'm the young detective,
and I arrive at this garage,

4733
03:45:11,379 --> 03:45:13,586
and I get there
just in time to see

4734
03:45:13,586 --> 03:45:15,793
the zombie kill Tia Carrere.

4735
03:45:15,793 --> 03:45:17,172
Right?

4736
03:45:17,172 --> 03:45:18,000
Police!

4737
03:45:18,000 --> 03:45:19,275
Hands in the air!

4738
03:45:21,551 --> 03:45:24,172
He knocks the gun aside,

4739
03:45:24,172 --> 03:45:25,413
and picks me up by the throat,

4740
03:45:25,413 --> 03:45:27,517
and then throws me onto a car.

4741
03:45:30,241 --> 03:45:31,620
It's my first movie.

4742
03:45:31,620 --> 03:45:32,896
I'm fighting a monster.

4743
03:45:32,896 --> 03:45:34,931
This is what I wanted
my whole life, right?

4744
03:45:36,275 --> 03:45:38,517
Mystery Science Theater
discovering "Zombie Nightmare"

4745
03:45:38,517 --> 03:45:42,620
definitely saved that movie
from disappearing forever.

4746
03:45:42,620 --> 03:45:44,413
It's called
"Zombie Nightmare",

4747
03:45:44,413 --> 03:45:47,206
and it stars Adam West and ...

4748
03:45:49,517 --> 03:45:52,241
There's a scene when one
of the zombie characters

4749
03:45:52,241 --> 03:45:54,206
is essentially dying.

4750
03:45:54,206 --> 03:45:56,724
His mouth is open, and
his eyes have sunken back,

4751
03:45:56,724 --> 03:45:59,931
and there's all of this
mist coming out of him.

4752
03:45:59,931 --> 03:46:01,793
At the time I thought, oh wow.

4753
03:46:01,793 --> 03:46:03,517
That really looks good.

4754
03:46:03,517 --> 03:46:06,862
Maybe this is gonna
be good.

4755
03:46:06,862 --> 03:46:10,137
I had hope, anyway.

4756
03:46:10,137 --> 03:46:11,000
Kill me!

4757
03:46:11,000 --> 03:46:12,310
Kill me, Frank!

4758
03:46:12,310 --> 03:46:13,517
Frank!

4759
03:46:24,034 --> 03:46:26,344
"The Video Dead".

4760
03:46:26,344 --> 03:46:29,689
I love "Video Dead", because
it does something different

4761
03:46:29,689 --> 03:46:31,379
with the zombie genre.

4762
03:46:34,689 --> 03:46:38,758
We're given this weird
nightmarish suburbia,

4763
03:46:38,758 --> 03:46:41,137
where these zombies
are killing people,

4764
03:46:41,137 --> 03:46:44,344
but they all have a story.

4765
03:46:44,344 --> 03:46:45,586
They try to live.

4766
03:46:45,586 --> 03:46:47,000
Like, they try to adapt.

4767
03:46:50,379 --> 03:46:52,931
You have this haunted
TV that gets delivered.

4768
03:46:52,931 --> 03:46:54,482
And initially it
goes to a writer

4769
03:46:54,482 --> 03:46:55,655
in the opening of the film,

4770
03:46:55,655 --> 03:46:57,275
who's played by
Michael St. Michaels,

4771
03:46:57,275 --> 03:46:58,689
who would eventually
go on to become

4772
03:46:58,689 --> 03:46:59,965
the Greasy Strangler.

4773
03:47:01,344 --> 03:47:05,206
The TV somehow is a portal
for this zombie movie,

4774
03:47:05,206 --> 03:47:08,241
but also real zombies as well.

4775
03:47:09,827 --> 03:47:12,103
That's the first movie
I've ever died twice in,

4776
03:47:12,103 --> 03:47:13,482
and one time I killed me.

4777
03:47:14,896 --> 03:47:17,931
When I shot it, I was the
first 20 minutes of the film.

4778
03:47:17,931 --> 03:47:19,793
The distributor
didn't want that,

4779
03:47:19,793 --> 03:47:22,448
so they took out a
bunch of my scenes.

4780
03:47:22,448 --> 03:47:24,758
The hardest thing I
did in "The Video Dead"

4781
03:47:24,758 --> 03:47:26,103
was being dead.

4782
03:47:26,103 --> 03:47:27,931
That scene where
they open the door.

4783
03:47:27,931 --> 03:47:29,827
We had to do that
two or three times

4784
03:47:29,827 --> 03:47:32,448
because I could
not stop shivering.

4785
03:47:33,344 --> 03:47:34,586
Holy shit!

4786
03:47:34,586 --> 03:47:35,655
A few days later,
they called me up

4787
03:47:35,655 --> 03:47:37,241
and said would I be interested

4788
03:47:37,241 --> 03:47:39,758
in being in the movie some more?

4789
03:47:39,758 --> 03:47:42,310
I came back as Jack the Zombie.

4790
03:47:42,310 --> 03:47:46,137
The actor who originally played
Jack the Zombie had died.

4791
03:47:46,137 --> 03:47:47,793
I don't know how or why,

4792
03:47:47,793 --> 03:47:49,275
so they had a vacancy, and I was

4793
03:47:49,275 --> 03:47:52,000
the right height and
weight.

4794
03:47:54,758 --> 03:47:57,068
All those zombies
had personality.

4795
03:47:57,068 --> 03:47:59,448
They weren't just eating brains

4796
03:47:59,448 --> 03:48:01,931
for the sake of eating brains.

4797
03:48:01,931 --> 03:48:03,068
They were going places.

4798
03:48:03,068 --> 03:48:04,206
They were doing things.

4799
03:48:07,482 --> 03:48:09,241
Those are some of the
best zombies we have

4800
03:48:09,241 --> 03:48:11,206
of the entire 1980s decade.

4801
03:48:11,206 --> 03:48:14,655
The bride zombie, she's doing
all these domestic things.

4802
03:48:18,482 --> 03:48:22,551
And then you have the rockabilly
Flock of Seagulls zombie,

4803
03:48:22,551 --> 03:48:25,517
who's kind of like the
ladies man of the zombies.

4804
03:48:30,655 --> 03:48:34,448
My favorite scene is when
I'm the way too cool zombie.

4805
03:48:34,448 --> 03:48:38,758
Yes, I like you,
you know?

4806
03:48:38,758 --> 03:48:41,482
I could tell I really
creeped her out.

4807
03:48:43,241 --> 03:48:45,724
I really enjoyed working
with Robert Scott.

4808
03:48:45,724 --> 03:48:47,586
He really didn't
want anybody to know

4809
03:48:47,586 --> 03:48:51,448
that that film had
only cost $35,000.

4810
03:48:52,620 --> 03:48:54,827
It was shot on video,
transferred to film,

4811
03:48:54,827 --> 03:48:58,482
and then transferred back
to video again.

4812
03:49:02,793 --> 03:49:05,241
It was generating a nice
amount of money here and there,

4813
03:49:05,241 --> 03:49:08,620
prior to Avco Embassy
going bankrupt.

4814
03:49:08,620 --> 03:49:11,241
People were impressed
that I was in it.

4815
03:49:12,482 --> 03:49:14,103
I didn't have to pay
for video rentals

4816
03:49:14,103 --> 03:49:15,689
in a couple video stores.

4817
03:49:17,103 --> 03:49:19,448
This bar I hung out
at kept me drunk

4818
03:49:19,448 --> 03:49:21,310
for about six months,
because I brought in

4819
03:49:21,310 --> 03:49:24,896
a copy of the thing and showed
it at the bar.

4820
03:49:30,862 --> 03:49:31,965
People look at that
film, and they wonder

4821
03:49:31,965 --> 03:49:33,482
whatever happened to that guy.

4822
03:49:33,482 --> 03:49:36,793
And now they get their answer
in "The Greasy Strangler".

4823
03:49:50,034 --> 03:49:52,172
"Slumber
Party Massacre II".

4824
03:49:52,172 --> 03:49:55,000
If you go, don't go all the way.

4825
03:49:55,000 --> 03:49:56,793
Oh god, anybody
got any tranqs?

4826
03:49:56,793 --> 03:49:59,551
A lot of us straight boys

4827
03:49:59,551 --> 03:50:02,586
used to wonder in deep thought

4828
03:50:02,586 --> 03:50:04,517
about what must be going on

4829
03:50:04,517 --> 03:50:06,517
when girls are having
a slumber party.

4830
03:50:07,448 --> 03:50:09,448
You look like a big chicken.

4831
03:50:09,448 --> 03:50:10,689
Bawk, bawk, bawk!

4832
03:50:10,689 --> 03:50:12,310
I love the "Slumber
Party Massacre" series.

4833
03:50:12,310 --> 03:50:14,275
They're all written
and directed by women,

4834
03:50:14,275 --> 03:50:16,896
and that shows in the
content of the film.

4835
03:50:24,586 --> 03:50:26,241
One of the cool things about
"Slumber Party Massacre 1"

4836
03:50:26,241 --> 03:50:28,793
is that it's really
satirizing the slasher genre

4837
03:50:28,793 --> 03:50:30,482
at a time when the
conversation around

4838
03:50:30,482 --> 03:50:33,206
whether or not slasher
films were feminist.

4839
03:50:33,206 --> 03:50:36,068
But "Slumber Party Massacre 2"
takes that and runs with it.

4840
03:50:36,931 --> 03:50:37,931
Come on baby!

4841
03:50:37,931 --> 03:50:39,413
We gonna rock and roll!

4842
03:50:41,241 --> 03:50:45,137
"Slumber Party Massacre
2" is actually a meta film.

4843
03:50:45,137 --> 03:50:48,655
A comment on those
kinds of slasher movies,

4844
03:50:48,655 --> 03:50:51,344
at the same time that it is one.

4845
03:50:56,103 --> 03:50:58,275
Plus, it's a musical.

4846
03:50:58,275 --> 03:51:01,000
♪ I love to jam
it to the floor ♪

4847
03:51:01,000 --> 03:51:02,758
♪ Let its wild parts roar

4848
03:51:02,758 --> 03:51:05,448
I was working
for Roger Corman,

4849
03:51:05,448 --> 03:51:09,034
and I said Roger, I'd really
like to direct something,

4850
03:51:09,034 --> 03:51:11,482
and he said, okay.

4851
03:51:11,482 --> 03:51:14,413
I have something you
can direct immediately.

4852
03:51:14,413 --> 03:51:17,827
He said "Slumber
Party Massacre II".

4853
03:51:17,827 --> 03:51:21,689
We have to make it, because
I've sold all the rights to it.

4854
03:51:23,172 --> 03:51:24,620
"Slumber Party Massacre
II" is about some girls

4855
03:51:24,620 --> 03:51:27,862
who get away for a slumber
party at a cottage,

4856
03:51:27,862 --> 03:51:32,241
and it's interrupted by a
musical icon serial killer,

4857
03:51:32,241 --> 03:51:33,827
who is going to
sing and kill them

4858
03:51:33,827 --> 03:51:36,000
with his crazy guitar.

4859
03:51:37,241 --> 03:51:38,896
Yoo-hoo!

4860
03:51:38,896 --> 03:51:40,241
I'm home!

4861
03:51:40,241 --> 03:51:41,793
What could be more evil

4862
03:51:41,793 --> 03:51:45,000
than a weaponized
electric guitar?

4863
03:51:47,413 --> 03:51:49,275
To drill poor innocent
victims' heads in?

4864
03:51:51,586 --> 03:51:54,206
I couldn't think of
anything that represented

4865
03:51:54,206 --> 03:51:57,448
the phallic nature of rock music

4866
03:51:57,448 --> 03:52:01,068
any better than a guitar
that had a drill on the end.

4867
03:52:02,310 --> 03:52:04,586
Atanas Ilitch plays
the driller killer.

4868
03:52:04,586 --> 03:52:08,655
And this is Atanas
Ilitch's only album.

4869
03:52:08,655 --> 03:52:12,758
If you look, he's holding
a cat on the back.

4870
03:52:15,482 --> 03:52:19,206
He was full of lots
of enthusiasm and ideas,

4871
03:52:19,206 --> 03:52:21,724
and I didn't have
a choreographer,

4872
03:52:21,724 --> 03:52:26,379
so he and I had to make up his
"Let's Buzz" dance together,

4873
03:52:26,379 --> 03:52:28,000
and the chorus was

4874
03:52:28,000 --> 03:52:29,965
♪ Let's buzz

4875
03:52:29,965 --> 03:52:31,000
He's out there.

4876
03:52:31,000 --> 03:52:32,482
♪ Let's buzz

4877
03:52:32,482 --> 03:52:34,793
It was a sexy song.

4878
03:52:35,965 --> 03:52:38,862
My favorite two things
is the dead chicken

4879
03:52:38,862 --> 03:52:41,000
that jumps out of
the refrigerator

4880
03:52:41,000 --> 03:52:43,827
onto Crystal Bernard's chest,

4881
03:52:43,827 --> 03:52:47,517
and spews weird liquid
out of its cut neck.

4882
03:52:51,655 --> 03:52:54,103
The other one is
they're driving away,

4883
03:52:54,103 --> 03:52:57,379
and the Driller Killer, of
course, is in the backseat,

4884
03:52:57,379 --> 03:53:02,034
and he drills the kid who's
driving through the seat.

4885
03:53:06,758 --> 03:53:11,068
It sold a tremendous
amount of video cassettes

4886
03:53:11,068 --> 03:53:14,034
which was what Roger wanted
to sell at that point.

4887
03:53:14,034 --> 03:53:16,793
He said it made over $6 million

4888
03:53:16,793 --> 03:53:20,758
on a $390,000 budget.

4889
03:53:20,758 --> 03:53:23,793
It actually got
banned in the UK.

4890
03:53:23,793 --> 03:53:25,896
They wrote a letter to Roger

4891
03:53:25,896 --> 03:53:29,344
saying you can't show
this film in the UK

4892
03:53:29,344 --> 03:53:34,000
because it's a particularly
virulent combination

4893
03:53:34,000 --> 03:53:36,172
of sex and violence.

4894
03:53:40,793 --> 03:53:42,344
I wish I had a copy
of that letter.

4895
03:53:42,344 --> 03:53:45,551
They sounded extremely offended.

4896
03:53:45,551 --> 03:53:48,000
The way she broken my heart,

4897
03:53:48,000 --> 03:53:50,137
it made me cry,

4898
03:53:50,137 --> 03:53:53,379
so don't you know
she had to die.

4899
03:53:59,931 --> 03:54:02,586
The 80s, like any
other film decade,

4900
03:54:02,586 --> 03:54:04,310
was about transition.

4901
03:54:04,310 --> 03:54:06,586
I think that there was forward
motion in a lot of fronts,

4902
03:54:06,586 --> 03:54:08,482
and there was backward
motion in a lot of fronts.

4903
03:54:08,482 --> 03:54:10,310
Move lady, or
I'm gonna blow off

4904
03:54:10,310 --> 03:54:11,758
your old man's 'acho bizeezhiis!

4905
03:54:11,758 --> 03:54:14,068
The 80s was before we were PC.

4906
03:54:14,068 --> 03:54:17,034
Gay people, black
people, Asian people,

4907
03:54:17,034 --> 03:54:19,620
in the 80s movies were
always the butt of the joke.

4908
03:54:19,620 --> 03:54:20,931
And we just dealt with it.

4909
03:54:20,931 --> 03:54:22,448
We were just used to it.

4910
03:54:22,448 --> 03:54:26,448
Urban stereotypes of black
people, Asian stereotypes.

4911
03:54:26,448 --> 03:54:28,137
And yes, they were harmful,

4912
03:54:28,137 --> 03:54:30,310
but we weren't as aware
that they were harmful,

4913
03:54:30,310 --> 03:54:33,413
because we just had not
awakened ourselves yet.

4914
03:54:39,379 --> 03:54:40,931
No!

4915
03:54:40,931 --> 03:54:42,896
I think stereotypes are
stereotypes for a reason,

4916
03:54:42,896 --> 03:54:45,034
because there's a
lot of truth in them.

4917
03:54:45,034 --> 03:54:47,862
But I also think that the
80s is more complicated

4918
03:54:47,862 --> 03:54:50,379
and messier than
just a reductive,

4919
03:54:50,379 --> 03:54:52,517
the black guy dies first rule.

4920
03:54:58,310 --> 03:55:01,172
I look back at Romero,
"Night of the Living Dead",

4921
03:55:01,172 --> 03:55:02,862
a black leading man.

4922
03:55:02,862 --> 03:55:05,310
Very bold move on his part.

4923
03:55:05,310 --> 03:55:08,034
He wasn't there as a
symbol of a black man.

4924
03:55:08,034 --> 03:55:10,103
He was there just as a man.

4925
03:55:12,206 --> 03:55:14,448
What people don't give
Romero enough credit for

4926
03:55:14,448 --> 03:55:17,241
is that in his zombie
trilogy, Romero's always

4927
03:55:17,241 --> 03:55:19,172
putting the underdog
at the front.

4928
03:55:19,172 --> 03:55:20,344
Get out of the way, bitch,

4929
03:55:20,344 --> 03:55:21,517
or I'll go right
through you with this.

4930
03:55:24,586 --> 03:55:27,413
We're getting to
make this a habit, man.

4931
03:55:27,413 --> 03:55:29,620
"Night of the Comet",
we had a Mexican man

4932
03:55:29,620 --> 03:55:32,758
as the male lead, which,
because it's Los Angeles,

4933
03:55:32,758 --> 03:55:34,551
we didn't think
anything of that,

4934
03:55:34,551 --> 03:55:36,931
but everybody else
was like, whoa!

4935
03:55:38,000 --> 03:55:38,965
Jeez!

4936
03:55:38,965 --> 03:55:39,758
There goes the neighborhood!

4937
03:55:41,172 --> 03:55:45,931
In those days, it was
defiant to cast a Latino.

4938
03:55:48,275 --> 03:55:50,310
I would be very happy
when I would watch

4939
03:55:50,310 --> 03:55:53,655
a horror movie
back then, and see

4940
03:55:53,655 --> 03:55:56,965
the kind of diversity
that did show up.

4941
03:56:00,000 --> 03:56:01,206
Want one?

4942
03:56:01,206 --> 03:56:03,379
Because representation
is such a new idea,

4943
03:56:03,379 --> 03:56:05,931
because sometimes you don't
know what you don't have,

4944
03:56:05,931 --> 03:56:07,310
until you start to get it,

4945
03:56:07,310 --> 03:56:08,413
and then you're like, oh.

4946
03:56:08,413 --> 03:56:09,793
We didn't have this before.

4947
03:56:11,000 --> 03:56:12,275
Oh, look at that face.

4948
03:56:12,275 --> 03:56:13,620
Okay do the other one.

4949
03:56:15,689 --> 03:56:18,482
I'm from a Filipino family,

4950
03:56:18,482 --> 03:56:22,310
and our culture was never
represented.

4951
03:56:22,310 --> 03:56:26,000
Unfortunately, even
today, we're very limited.

4952
03:56:26,000 --> 03:56:29,068
Looking back on the way
casting was in the 80s,

4953
03:56:29,068 --> 03:56:32,827
I know it can be easy
to be upset at the past,

4954
03:56:32,827 --> 03:56:35,379
but it was of its time,

4955
03:56:35,379 --> 03:56:37,482
and it was kind of rough.

4956
03:56:39,275 --> 03:56:40,103
No!

4957
03:56:40,103 --> 03:56:40,965
No!

4958
03:56:42,482 --> 03:56:44,482
In the rare instances
where you do see yourself

4959
03:56:44,482 --> 03:56:46,793
represented onscreen, or
something that is even

4960
03:56:46,793 --> 03:56:49,896
closely akin to you, and
it's shown in a negative way,

4961
03:56:49,896 --> 03:56:52,275
or there's violence being
done to this person,

4962
03:56:52,275 --> 03:56:53,655
it weighs on you.

4963
03:56:55,413 --> 03:56:58,965
I feel like we can
learn from our mistakes,

4964
03:56:58,965 --> 03:57:01,413
but not beat
ourselves up about it,

4965
03:57:01,413 --> 03:57:05,206
and not feel like we
have to change the edit.

4966
03:57:08,862 --> 03:57:10,172
I don't think we
need to throw away

4967
03:57:10,172 --> 03:57:12,241
representation
that isn't perfect,

4968
03:57:12,241 --> 03:57:15,448
and in the 1980s,
representation was not perfect.

4969
03:57:15,448 --> 03:57:19,103
It's important to remember
what the social context is

4970
03:57:19,103 --> 03:57:20,344
when something's made.

4971
03:57:20,344 --> 03:57:21,965
We should be talking
about our history.

4972
03:57:21,965 --> 03:57:25,034
There's a reason why
this isn't okay now,

4973
03:57:25,034 --> 03:57:27,137
and was happening then.

4974
03:57:27,137 --> 03:57:30,448
Context, context, context
is what's important

4975
03:57:30,448 --> 03:57:31,724
when it comes to these films.

4976
03:57:31,724 --> 03:57:33,758
Doesn't it bother
you that he's a fag?

4977
03:57:33,758 --> 03:57:34,965
Come on-

4978
03:57:34,965 --> 03:57:36,551
Tell me, Billy.

4979
03:57:36,551 --> 03:57:37,827
Are you a fag?

4980
03:57:37,827 --> 03:57:40,172
We need to talk about
more than just the word.

4981
03:57:40,172 --> 03:57:42,689
We need to talk about what
the word was doing there,

4982
03:57:42,689 --> 03:57:44,310
and who put it on that page.

4983
03:57:44,310 --> 03:57:46,655
Every filmmaker,
their upbringing

4984
03:57:46,655 --> 03:57:49,275
influences their storytelling.

4985
03:57:49,275 --> 03:57:51,413
With that in mind, I began
to make my own films,

4986
03:57:51,413 --> 03:57:53,517
and I began to
write my own films,

4987
03:57:53,517 --> 03:57:55,413
and I began to
create opportunity,

4988
03:57:55,413 --> 03:57:58,068
not only for myself,
but for everyone else.

4989
03:57:58,068 --> 03:57:59,689
What do you make of it, Mark?

4990
03:57:59,689 --> 03:58:00,965
Beats me, Chief.

4991
03:58:00,965 --> 03:58:02,758
Seems like the work of
pathological weirdos.

4992
03:58:02,758 --> 03:58:06,379
Representation being
a double-edged sword.

4993
03:58:07,862 --> 03:58:09,068
I'm really getting scared.

4994
03:58:09,068 --> 03:58:10,586
I can't take back
any movies I did,

4995
03:58:10,586 --> 03:58:12,034
and I don't want to.

4996
03:58:12,034 --> 03:58:15,448
I represent as far as
I can what I look like

4997
03:58:15,448 --> 03:58:17,310
in the group of
people I come from,

4998
03:58:17,310 --> 03:58:19,551
but I never pretended,
and I don't say

4999
03:58:19,551 --> 03:58:21,551
I'm speaking for everybody.

5000
03:58:21,551 --> 03:58:23,172
I just have my little lane,

5001
03:58:23,172 --> 03:58:24,620
and I try to stick to my lane.

5002
03:58:24,620 --> 03:58:26,517
When you look at
horror of the late 1970s,

5003
03:58:26,517 --> 03:58:28,413
early 1980s, we start to see

5004
03:58:28,413 --> 03:58:30,413
actual queer
representation trickle in.

5005
03:58:30,413 --> 03:58:33,620
We see gay guys kicking
ass in films like "Siege",

5006
03:58:33,620 --> 03:58:35,448
and "Savage Weekend".

5007
03:58:39,379 --> 03:58:42,344
That was getting way
more normalized in the 70s,

5008
03:58:42,344 --> 03:58:44,241
and then when AIDS hit,
they all got shoved

5009
03:58:44,241 --> 03:58:45,758
back in the closet pretty hard.

5010
03:58:45,758 --> 03:58:48,586
Suddenly, there is very
much no longer an interest

5011
03:58:48,586 --> 03:58:51,551
in having queer characters
normalized in those films.

5012
03:58:51,551 --> 03:58:52,965
It was a big
elephant in the room,

5013
03:58:52,965 --> 03:58:54,310
and I think a lot
of horror filmmakers

5014
03:58:54,310 --> 03:58:56,206
didn't want to bother
navigating that.

5015
03:58:56,206 --> 03:58:59,068
It's part of the
evolutionary process of horror.

5016
03:58:59,068 --> 03:59:02,689
For me, like it was such
an educational process

5017
03:59:02,689 --> 03:59:06,000
to be able to go
back and look at how

5018
03:59:06,000 --> 03:59:07,931
we've changed, and
how our dialogue,

5019
03:59:07,931 --> 03:59:11,137
and how our discussion of
these movies has changed.

5020
03:59:14,448 --> 03:59:15,551
Oh god, she's a boy.

5021
03:59:17,068 --> 03:59:19,344
It's hard to compare the 1980s

5022
03:59:19,344 --> 03:59:22,206
and representation in horror
to what we have today.

5023
03:59:22,206 --> 03:59:25,000
Because what we have is
a conversation happening

5024
03:59:25,000 --> 03:59:28,241
that's asking for what we
want our future to look like.

5025
03:59:30,620 --> 03:59:33,310
I look at everything
that happens in the past

5026
03:59:33,310 --> 03:59:36,344
as opportunities to do much,
much better in the future.

5027
03:59:38,000 --> 03:59:40,793
It was once said to me that
representation is a journey,

5028
03:59:40,793 --> 03:59:42,310
not a destination.

5029
03:59:42,310 --> 03:59:44,586
So to me, representation
in the 80s

5030
03:59:44,586 --> 03:59:46,344
is a work in progress.

5031
03:59:46,344 --> 03:59:48,965
Representation now is
a work in progress.

5032
03:59:48,965 --> 03:59:50,862
There's forward movement, and
there's backward movement,

5033
03:59:50,862 --> 03:59:53,896
but you can't snapshot it
and say this is what it was.

5034
03:59:53,896 --> 03:59:55,620
Because I think it's
a more complicated

5035
03:59:55,620 --> 03:59:57,000
messier picture than that.

5036
04:00:10,241 --> 04:00:13,000
"Return of
the Living Dead: Part II".

5037
04:00:14,172 --> 04:00:17,034
Just when you thought
it was safe to be dead.

5038
04:00:17,034 --> 04:00:19,586
I love a good
zany horror movie.

5039
04:00:19,586 --> 04:00:21,896
Zombie content right
now is very serious.

5040
04:00:21,896 --> 04:00:24,482
It's all about
society and humanity,

5041
04:00:24,482 --> 04:00:26,000
and what does humanity mean.

5042
04:00:26,000 --> 04:00:27,689
This movie, it's
fun to watch zombies

5043
04:00:27,689 --> 04:00:30,448
just be ridiculous.

5044
04:00:34,206 --> 04:00:35,034
"Return of the
Living Dead: Part 1"

5045
04:00:35,034 --> 04:00:36,896
is truly a dark comedy.

5046
04:00:36,896 --> 04:00:38,448
You're laughing
at the situations

5047
04:00:38,448 --> 04:00:40,275
the kids get themselves into,

5048
04:00:40,275 --> 04:00:43,482
and "Part II" kind of
went for the jokes.

5049
04:00:48,000 --> 04:00:50,206
It's less of a sequel,
and more just kind of

5050
04:00:50,206 --> 04:00:52,344
a goofier remake
of the first one.

5051
04:00:52,344 --> 04:00:54,758
"Return of the Living
Dead II" shows that

5052
04:00:54,758 --> 04:00:56,793
even if you die in
the first movie,

5053
04:00:56,793 --> 04:00:58,862
you can still come
back for the sequel.

5054
04:01:02,000 --> 04:01:03,896
Not bad.

5055
04:01:03,896 --> 04:01:06,000
Nice bit of rump
in her time, huh?

5056
04:01:06,000 --> 04:01:08,862
James Karen and Tom
Matthews from the first movie

5057
04:01:08,862 --> 04:01:10,241
come back for this one.

5058
04:01:10,241 --> 04:01:12,689
They're kind of
filling the same role,

5059
04:01:12,689 --> 04:01:15,241
and basically have the
same arc as the first one,

5060
04:01:15,241 --> 04:01:19,068
so they sort of are playing
the same characters.

5061
04:01:19,068 --> 04:01:21,241
We've been here before!

5062
04:01:21,241 --> 04:01:24,172
It's like a dream,
this whole thing!

5063
04:01:24,172 --> 04:01:25,000
You, me!

5064
04:01:26,379 --> 04:01:27,724
"Return of the Living Dead"
was a huge hit in Japan,

5065
04:01:27,724 --> 04:01:29,689
and they said if you
can have Jimmy Karen

5066
04:01:29,689 --> 04:01:31,482
and Tom Matthews come
back, we'd give you

5067
04:01:31,482 --> 04:01:32,724
a little bit more money.

5068
04:01:32,724 --> 04:01:34,586
So that's how Jimmy
and I got involved

5069
04:01:34,586 --> 04:01:37,241
back in it again, was
because of the Japanese.

5070
04:01:41,103 --> 04:01:43,275
Jimmy Karen, lot of
people on the East Coast

5071
04:01:43,275 --> 04:01:44,896
call him the Pathmark man.

5072
04:01:44,896 --> 04:01:47,275
March rolls in with
hundreds of price reductions

5073
04:01:47,275 --> 04:01:48,724
in this new Pathmark circular.

5074
04:01:48,724 --> 04:01:50,965
So he would give weekly
specials every week

5075
04:01:50,965 --> 04:01:52,310
for 30 years.

5076
04:01:52,310 --> 04:01:54,344
24 hours a day, you'll save

5077
04:01:54,344 --> 04:01:56,482
with one stop
shopping at Pathmark.

5078
04:01:56,482 --> 04:01:58,275
He was so
infectious on the set.

5079
04:01:58,275 --> 04:01:59,931
Raised everybody's game up.

5080
04:02:04,793 --> 04:02:07,379
You laugh at the situations
we get ourselves into.

5081
04:02:07,379 --> 04:02:10,724
You can't believe the
shit that's going on.

5082
04:02:10,724 --> 04:02:12,310
Are you fucking kidding?

5083
04:02:12,310 --> 04:02:13,689
That's insane.

5084
04:02:13,689 --> 04:02:15,172
That's what you're
responding to.

5085
04:02:15,172 --> 04:02:17,000
We're acting it for real, man.

5086
04:02:17,000 --> 04:02:18,172
It's the dead!

5087
04:02:18,172 --> 04:02:19,000
They've come back to life!

5088
04:02:19,000 --> 04:02:20,034
The dead?

5089
04:02:20,034 --> 04:02:20,896
Dead, dead what?

5090
04:02:20,896 --> 04:02:22,000
People!

5091
04:02:22,000 --> 04:02:23,275
We need your car!

5092
04:02:23,275 --> 04:02:24,586
Well it sounds to me
like you need a hearse.

5093
04:02:24,586 --> 04:02:26,344
I had an issue
with Jimmy Karen

5094
04:02:26,344 --> 04:02:27,862
eating brains, actually,

5095
04:02:27,862 --> 04:02:29,586
because the director wanted
me to eat frickin' brains,

5096
04:02:29,586 --> 04:02:33,275
and I was like, that was just
so over the line, I thought.

5097
04:02:33,275 --> 04:02:36,310
I got really upset
about that on the set.

5098
04:02:36,310 --> 04:02:38,310
I had issues with
him, Ken Wiederhorn.

5099
04:02:42,793 --> 04:02:45,275
It's like he lost a bet
and had to do the movie.

5100
04:02:45,275 --> 04:02:47,310
Hemdale made him do
it to do other movies

5101
04:02:47,310 --> 04:02:48,862
that he wanted to do.

5102
04:02:48,862 --> 04:02:53,862
It's a sad story of Ken
Wiederhorn and his career.

5103
04:02:55,034 --> 04:02:57,103
He came right out of the
gate with "Shock Waves",

5104
04:02:57,103 --> 04:02:58,620
he had "Dark Tower"
that he wrote

5105
04:02:58,620 --> 04:03:00,413
that was completely butchered.

5106
04:03:00,413 --> 04:03:03,344
"Meatballs II" was never
a "Meatballs" movie.

5107
04:03:03,344 --> 04:03:04,793
It was a movie that he made,

5108
04:03:04,793 --> 04:03:07,000
and the company was
like, we need a sequel.

5109
04:03:07,000 --> 04:03:07,931
And they retitled it.

5110
04:03:07,931 --> 04:03:09,206
And this happens again.

5111
04:03:09,206 --> 04:03:11,172
I mean, Ken has the script,

5112
04:03:11,172 --> 04:03:13,241
and it's not really
a zombie comedy,

5113
04:03:13,241 --> 04:03:15,896
but they want to make a
"Return of the Living Dead II".

5114
04:03:21,000 --> 04:03:22,896
He just really wasn't interested

5115
04:03:22,896 --> 04:03:24,517
in doing the movie,
but he did it

5116
04:03:26,862 --> 04:03:27,793
Oh, fuck this!

5117
04:03:32,344 --> 04:03:34,827
The strengths of "Part II"
that people really enjoy,

5118
04:03:34,827 --> 04:03:38,034
I think the fact that the
main character was a kid,

5119
04:03:38,034 --> 04:03:42,103
so they have an emotional
connection to the movie.

5120
04:03:43,965 --> 04:03:44,793
Brains!

5121
04:03:45,758 --> 04:03:47,034
I've never heard anyone say

5122
04:03:47,034 --> 04:03:49,000
that they've hated "Part II",

5123
04:03:49,000 --> 04:03:51,931
except for me.

5124
04:03:51,931 --> 04:03:54,034
This is big fucking trouble!

5125
04:03:56,034 --> 04:03:57,758
I've changed my
mind since then.

5126
04:04:12,275 --> 04:04:15,482
You've got
to give the devil his due!

5127
04:04:15,482 --> 04:04:17,000
"Sorority Babes".

5128
04:04:17,000 --> 04:04:19,344
"Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama"

5129
04:04:19,344 --> 04:04:22,689
is about these kids
that think, okay,

5130
04:04:22,689 --> 04:04:26,551
we're gonna break into a
mall, in the bowling alley,

5131
04:04:26,551 --> 04:04:28,758
and steal a trophy.

5132
04:04:28,758 --> 04:04:30,482
Come on, man!

5133
04:04:30,482 --> 04:04:31,310
I'm working on it.

5134
04:04:31,310 --> 04:04:33,068
Will you cool your jets?

5135
04:04:35,344 --> 04:04:36,862
Things turn out really bad,

5136
04:04:36,862 --> 04:04:39,172
because they awaken this imp.

5137
04:04:39,172 --> 04:04:40,827
Such a sour face!

5138
04:04:40,827 --> 04:04:42,862
Stop it, you little prick!

5139
04:04:42,862 --> 04:04:45,344
Very funny imp,
but very menacing,

5140
04:04:45,344 --> 04:04:47,206
and does bad things.

5141
04:04:48,655 --> 04:04:49,655
Have a nice trip!

5142
04:04:49,655 --> 04:04:51,241
See you next fall!

5143
04:04:51,241 --> 04:04:53,689
I crack me up!

5144
04:04:53,689 --> 04:04:56,000
It's that story
of the monkey's paw.

5145
04:04:56,000 --> 04:04:57,517
Be careful what you wish for.

5146
04:04:57,517 --> 04:04:58,413
Gold!

5147
04:04:58,413 --> 04:04:59,482
Lots of it!

5148
04:04:59,482 --> 04:05:01,413
Then gold it is!

5149
04:05:01,413 --> 04:05:02,620
This isn't gold!

5150
04:05:02,620 --> 04:05:03,896
These people
make these wishes,

5151
04:05:03,896 --> 04:05:06,931
and they go so bad,
it's not even funny.

5152
04:05:06,931 --> 04:05:09,620
Oh perfect form!

5153
04:05:09,620 --> 04:05:10,931
Lovely form!

5154
04:05:10,931 --> 04:05:13,965
Now I come along, and
my name is Spider in it,

5155
04:05:13,965 --> 04:05:16,551
and I save the day.

5156
04:05:20,862 --> 04:05:23,206
When I got the script,
it wasn't called

5157
04:05:23,206 --> 04:05:25,275
"Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl O' Rama",

5158
04:05:25,275 --> 04:05:26,517
it was called "The Imp".

5159
04:05:26,517 --> 04:05:28,827
We had no idea what
the imp would be like.

5160
04:05:28,827 --> 04:05:30,275
We didn't know what
it would sound like,

5161
04:05:30,275 --> 04:05:31,586
we didn't know what
it would look like,

5162
04:05:31,586 --> 04:05:33,103
because no one was there.

5163
04:05:33,103 --> 04:05:35,586
We just had to pretend we
were looking at something.

5164
04:05:35,586 --> 04:05:37,793
We had no idea it
would be a funny voice.

5165
04:05:37,793 --> 04:05:39,655
Uncle Imp is gonna get ya!

5166
04:05:39,655 --> 04:05:40,827
Fun, fun, fun!

5167
04:05:42,034 --> 04:05:44,103
Dukey Flyswatter was in a band

5168
04:05:44,103 --> 04:05:45,689
called The Haunted Garage.

5169
04:05:45,689 --> 04:05:49,068
He was a great guy and
everything, to work with.

5170
04:05:49,068 --> 04:05:52,034
No, that's his real
name.

5171
04:05:53,241 --> 04:05:54,517
I don't know what
his real name is.

5172
04:05:54,517 --> 04:05:57,551
It's probably Howard,
or something like that.

5173
04:05:57,551 --> 04:06:00,931
Would I lie to you?

5174
04:06:06,896 --> 04:06:09,482
"The
Serpent and the Rainbow".

5175
04:06:09,482 --> 04:06:12,413
When I think of the movies
that Wes Craven created

5176
04:06:12,413 --> 04:06:16,000
that really moved me and
challenged me as a viewer,

5177
04:06:16,000 --> 04:06:18,827
"Serpent and the Rainbow"
is definitely at the top

5178
04:06:18,827 --> 04:06:20,034
of that list.

5179
04:06:23,620 --> 04:06:25,137
I love "The Serpent
and the Rainbow".

5180
04:06:25,137 --> 04:06:29,000
They have this dust that you
can put into people's faces

5181
04:06:29,000 --> 04:06:30,517
and they become a zombie.

5182
04:06:30,517 --> 04:06:34,413
So you could bury them,
they could come alive again.

5183
04:06:35,620 --> 04:06:39,000
It is Wes Craven's
take on the zombie film.

5184
04:06:39,000 --> 04:06:41,413
Everybody was kind
of trying to chase

5185
04:06:41,413 --> 04:06:44,344
what George Romero did with
"Night of the Living Dead".

5186
04:06:45,482 --> 04:06:47,000
It wasn't until "Night
of the Living Dead"

5187
04:06:47,000 --> 04:06:50,275
that people even started
talking about ghouls as zombies.

5188
04:06:50,275 --> 04:06:51,655
Zombies were Caribbean.

5189
04:06:51,655 --> 04:06:53,793
Zombies were in "I
Walked With a Zombie",

5190
04:06:53,793 --> 04:06:55,103
you know, "White Zombie".

5191
04:06:55,103 --> 04:06:56,724
That was kind of zombies.

5192
04:06:56,724 --> 04:07:00,413
But now, zombie
became synonymous with
living dead people.

5193
04:07:00,413 --> 04:07:03,344
The whole meaning of
the word got screwed up.

5194
04:07:03,344 --> 04:07:05,655
Wes Craven is inviting us

5195
04:07:05,655 --> 04:07:08,482
to learn the history
of these monsters

5196
04:07:08,482 --> 04:07:10,172
that we're fascinated with.

5197
04:07:10,172 --> 04:07:12,172
This comes from him
being an academic.

5198
04:07:12,172 --> 04:07:15,862
He goes back to the
root of the zombie,

5199
04:07:15,862 --> 04:07:18,000
and he goes back to
Haitian folklore.

5200
04:07:18,000 --> 04:07:22,000
It's very much about the
idea of wealthy white people

5201
04:07:22,000 --> 04:07:24,620
trying to steal
cultural heritage

5202
04:07:24,620 --> 04:07:26,172
away from Haitians.

5203
04:07:26,172 --> 04:07:27,448
Now, if you don't
like the word zombie,

5204
04:07:27,448 --> 04:07:28,896
you can choose another word,

5205
04:07:28,896 --> 04:07:30,551
but the fact is,
somebody brought him

5206
04:07:30,551 --> 04:07:32,241
back from the grave,
and I want to know

5207
04:07:32,241 --> 04:07:33,620
how they did it.

5208
04:07:33,620 --> 04:07:35,896
They send Bill
Pullman's character there

5209
04:07:35,896 --> 04:07:38,137
to find out what is the secret

5210
04:07:38,137 --> 04:07:40,275
to immortality, essentially.

5211
04:07:40,275 --> 04:07:44,241
He thinks that he
understands these rituals,

5212
04:07:44,241 --> 04:07:46,275
and that he is above them,
he is a man of science,

5213
04:07:46,275 --> 04:07:47,931
but then he discovers
that he doesn't really

5214
04:07:47,931 --> 04:07:49,137
know it at all.

5215
04:07:49,137 --> 04:07:52,827
Whatever happens,
death is not the end.

5216
04:07:52,827 --> 04:07:55,379
Wes Craven is a
great, great director,

5217
04:07:55,379 --> 04:07:57,344
and comes up with great ideas.

5218
04:08:01,724 --> 04:08:03,275
Really fantastic
effects in that movie.

5219
04:08:03,275 --> 04:08:05,344
Some of the camera tricks
that they're able to do,

5220
04:08:05,344 --> 04:08:07,379
especially in the
sequences with the coffin,

5221
04:08:07,379 --> 04:08:09,000
when it fills with blood.

5222
04:08:11,206 --> 04:08:12,413
It's just phenomenal.

5223
04:08:14,000 --> 04:08:16,413
The dream sequence
with the zombie bride,

5224
04:08:16,413 --> 04:08:18,758
a snake comes out of her skull.

5225
04:08:19,965 --> 04:08:22,172
I mean, that is
incredible imagery.

5226
04:08:22,172 --> 04:08:24,241
You dreamt of me
and of the grave.

5227
04:08:25,689 --> 04:08:27,172
I know because I was there.

5228
04:08:27,172 --> 04:08:31,724
Zakes Mokae in that movie
is absolutely terrifying.

5229
04:08:34,172 --> 04:08:36,379
Bill Pullman really,
he had to put up

5230
04:08:36,379 --> 04:08:38,482
with a lot for that movie.

5231
04:08:38,482 --> 04:08:41,862
I want to hear you scream.

5232
04:08:41,862 --> 04:08:44,862
Where he's basically
in a chair, nude,

5233
04:08:44,862 --> 04:08:47,724
and a nine inch nail
that changes a lot.

5234
04:08:54,310 --> 04:08:56,827
You see it once, you're never
gonna forget that moment.

5235
04:08:56,827 --> 04:08:58,034
And get out!

5236
04:08:59,275 --> 04:09:01,793
"The Serpent and the
Rainbow" feels the most

5237
04:09:01,793 --> 04:09:04,448
like who Wes Craven
was as a person to me,

5238
04:09:04,448 --> 04:09:08,068
because he is
interrogating the way

5239
04:09:08,068 --> 04:09:12,000
that our society functions,
and our fear of death,

5240
04:09:12,000 --> 04:09:14,551
because I think
ultimately, a fear of death

5241
04:09:14,551 --> 04:09:18,034
in this film is a fear of
losing power and influence.

5242
04:09:19,103 --> 04:09:23,655
He has always reinvented horror

5243
04:09:23,655 --> 04:09:28,241
as a means to teach us
either about ourselves,

5244
04:09:28,241 --> 04:09:32,310
broader society, or about
the sins of America,

5245
04:09:32,310 --> 04:09:36,379
the way we extort other
cultures for our own gain.

5246
04:09:38,482 --> 04:09:41,000
Don't let them bury me.

5247
04:09:41,000 --> 04:09:42,413
I'm not dead!

5248
04:09:49,034 --> 04:09:52,310
When I really think
about all of my memories

5249
04:09:52,310 --> 04:09:54,172
on the set of "Sleepaway Camp",

5250
04:09:54,172 --> 04:09:56,206
we were just one big family.

5251
04:09:56,206 --> 04:09:58,689
One of the most magical
times of my life.

5252
04:09:58,689 --> 04:10:03,655
I was a 13-year-old
making this fun movie.

5253
04:10:06,000 --> 04:10:08,172
Spoiler alert, I mean
the first penis I saw

5254
04:10:08,172 --> 04:10:09,724
was my own penis, you know?

5255
04:10:09,724 --> 04:10:13,344
It was like, this was a
movie like none other.

5256
04:10:18,034 --> 04:10:21,137
Once you find out
what the ending is,

5257
04:10:21,137 --> 04:10:24,655
you start to understand
the deeper meaning.

5258
04:10:24,655 --> 04:10:26,103
And there's a lot going on.

5259
04:10:26,103 --> 04:10:30,137
Your gender identification,
your sexual orientation.

5260
04:10:30,137 --> 04:10:31,896
It was never intended to have

5261
04:10:31,896 --> 04:10:34,862
any kind of negative connotation

5262
04:10:34,862 --> 04:10:38,000
on any aspect of life.

5263
04:10:38,000 --> 04:10:39,344
Goodnight, campers.

5264
04:10:40,586 --> 04:10:42,344
"Sleepaway Camp 2".

5265
04:10:42,344 --> 04:10:45,413
Michael Simpson called
about portraying Angela

5266
04:10:45,413 --> 04:10:47,206
possibly in Parts 2 and 3.

5267
04:10:47,206 --> 04:10:48,551
It was the late 80s.

5268
04:10:48,551 --> 04:10:50,000
We were seeing more comedy.

5269
04:10:50,000 --> 04:10:53,896
And I just didn't take very
well to that character.

5270
04:10:55,758 --> 04:10:56,862
Wake up, everybody!

5271
04:10:56,862 --> 04:10:58,206
Breakfast in half an hour!

5272
04:10:58,206 --> 04:10:59,379
I put it on hold.

5273
04:10:59,379 --> 04:11:01,448
I'm young, let me go to school.

5274
04:11:03,172 --> 04:11:06,000
Robert Hiltzik made this
movie, and it was great.

5275
04:11:06,000 --> 04:11:08,344
So when Robert wrote the sequel,

5276
04:11:08,344 --> 04:11:12,137
he continued that dark
movie that was made,

5277
04:11:12,137 --> 04:11:14,241
and the producers
were like, nah.

5278
04:11:14,241 --> 04:11:16,758
We want to really
play into Angela.

5279
04:11:16,758 --> 04:11:19,137
Fritz Gordon is actually
Michael Hitchcock,

5280
04:11:19,137 --> 04:11:20,517
who wrote Glee.

5281
04:11:20,517 --> 04:11:22,793
He was brought in to
write the horror comedy.

5282
04:11:22,793 --> 04:11:24,482
There's lots of good kids.

5283
04:11:24,482 --> 04:11:26,517
We just have to
weed out the bad.

5284
04:11:26,517 --> 04:11:28,103
But it's mainly one liners,

5285
04:11:28,103 --> 04:11:29,965
and just kind of
Pamela Springsteen

5286
04:11:29,965 --> 04:11:31,965
taking this Angela character,

5287
04:11:31,965 --> 04:11:35,448
and just amplifying it so much.

5288
04:11:35,448 --> 04:11:37,344
Say no to drugs.

5289
04:11:41,172 --> 04:11:43,862
She brought so much energy.

5290
04:11:43,862 --> 04:11:46,275
That was an Angela that was fun.

5291
04:11:46,275 --> 04:11:47,448
You talk too much.

5292
04:11:50,620 --> 04:11:54,448
Also, them playing with
the transgender character,

5293
04:11:54,448 --> 04:11:59,103
fully a woman, has completely
undergone everything.

5294
04:11:59,103 --> 04:12:00,793
A surgery and all.

5295
04:12:00,793 --> 04:12:03,689
You're Angela Baker,
the angel of death!

5296
04:12:03,689 --> 04:12:05,344
They should have
called you Peter!

5297
04:12:05,344 --> 04:12:07,655
My name is Angela Johnson.

5298
04:12:07,655 --> 04:12:09,379
A Bruce Springsteen sister.

5299
04:12:09,379 --> 04:12:10,689
She kept it secret.

5300
04:12:10,689 --> 04:12:11,689
She wanted to be an actress,

5301
04:12:11,689 --> 04:12:12,931
but I guess it wasn't for her.

5302
04:12:12,931 --> 04:12:14,827
She ended up doing
photography instead.

5303
04:12:16,068 --> 04:12:19,068
Some of Bruce
Springsteen's album covers

5304
04:12:19,068 --> 04:12:22,655
is Pamela Springsteen's
photographs.

5305
04:12:22,655 --> 04:12:24,586
I was once a camper myself.

5306
04:12:24,586 --> 04:12:26,482
She's the boss' sister.

5307
04:12:26,482 --> 04:12:28,206
She was born cool.

5308
04:12:30,103 --> 04:12:32,482
Angela is killing
because she's bullied.

5309
04:12:32,482 --> 04:12:34,965
She's weeding out
all the bad kids,

5310
04:12:34,965 --> 04:12:36,344
and she's on top of it,

5311
04:12:36,344 --> 04:12:38,724
and she doesn't care
what anyone thinks.

5312
04:12:38,724 --> 04:12:40,000
Please, don't!

5313
04:12:42,620 --> 04:12:43,827
Sorry!

5314
04:12:43,827 --> 04:12:46,000
Once I start a task,
I always finish.

5315
04:12:46,000 --> 04:12:48,172
It has some kind
of cruel deaths,

5316
04:12:48,172 --> 04:12:50,827
like shoving somebody
down a Porta Potty.

5317
04:12:51,655 --> 04:12:52,482
What's down there?

5318
04:12:54,275 --> 04:12:55,931
The leeches
attached to her face,

5319
04:12:55,931 --> 04:12:58,241
she's obviously covered
in poop and pee,

5320
04:12:58,241 --> 04:12:59,862
and it's just like, ugh.

5321
04:12:59,862 --> 04:13:02,310
What a horrible way to die.

5322
04:13:02,310 --> 04:13:03,965
I love that outhouse scene.

5323
04:13:03,965 --> 04:13:05,724
That was disgusting!

5324
04:13:07,620 --> 04:13:09,689
It's a perfect,
perfect, perfect blend

5325
04:13:09,689 --> 04:13:11,689
of horror and comedy.

5326
04:13:11,689 --> 04:13:13,000
A lot of people say
"Part 2"'s my favorite,

5327
04:13:13,000 --> 04:13:14,620
and I think that's fantastic.

5328
04:13:17,241 --> 04:13:20,275
I do wish I had
played those roles.

5329
04:13:20,275 --> 04:13:21,551
I do.

5330
04:13:21,551 --> 04:13:23,344
I always say I have
no regrets in life.

5331
04:13:23,344 --> 04:13:24,172
None.

5332
04:13:24,172 --> 04:13:26,206
But I do regret that.

5333
04:13:26,206 --> 04:13:28,137
Even if you're
sad, you gotta eat.

5334
04:13:29,275 --> 04:13:30,931
Isn't that right, Leah?

5335
04:13:30,931 --> 04:13:32,827
Just would have
been super cool

5336
04:13:32,827 --> 04:13:35,827
to feel like I had done
the entire franchise.

5337
04:13:35,827 --> 04:13:37,931
I think the series
is empowering.

5338
04:13:37,931 --> 04:13:39,758
I've watched it over 40 years

5339
04:13:39,758 --> 04:13:41,931
grow into this, you know,

5340
04:13:41,931 --> 04:13:44,068
it has a life of its own.

5341
04:13:44,068 --> 04:13:46,689
"Sleepaway Camp" is
so interesting to me.

5342
04:13:46,689 --> 04:13:48,931
I still have so many questions.

5343
04:13:48,931 --> 04:13:50,758
I'm completely cured.

5344
04:13:52,551 --> 04:13:55,241
If I wasn't, they
wouldn't have let me out.

5345
04:14:04,862 --> 04:14:07,137
"Don't Panic" really
feels like it was

5346
04:14:07,137 --> 04:14:09,137
made by a fan for fans.

5347
04:14:09,137 --> 04:14:10,000
One!

5348
04:14:10,000 --> 04:14:10,827
Two!

5349
04:14:12,172 --> 04:14:13,724
Three!

5350
04:14:18,275 --> 04:14:21,758
This 17-year-old
boy has a party

5351
04:14:21,758 --> 04:14:24,655
where his friends surprise
him with the Ouija board.

5352
04:14:24,655 --> 04:14:27,689
And if you thought this movie
was about the Ouija board,

5353
04:14:27,689 --> 04:14:29,137
oh you thought wrong.

5354
04:14:34,793 --> 04:14:37,620
In Spanish, "Don't
Panic" was called

5355
04:14:37,620 --> 04:14:41,689
"Dimensiones Ocultas", which
means occult dimensions.

5356
04:14:41,689 --> 04:14:45,068
At that time, the only way
was to shoot in English,

5357
04:14:45,068 --> 04:14:47,241
sell it in the
international markets.

5358
04:14:48,896 --> 04:14:53,275
We tried to hire actors
that were English fluent,

5359
04:14:53,275 --> 04:14:55,241
and that had an
international look.

5360
04:15:00,275 --> 04:15:02,103
Let's look at the
character Michael.

5361
04:15:02,103 --> 04:15:03,793
That's what I call a pullet.

5362
04:15:03,793 --> 04:15:06,275
You have a perm on your mullet.

5363
04:15:06,275 --> 04:15:10,862
And you're wearing dinosaur
pajamas at 17 years old.

5364
04:15:10,862 --> 04:15:11,689
They're after me.

5365
04:15:11,689 --> 04:15:12,586
They're gonna get me.

5366
04:15:12,586 --> 04:15:13,965
Don't worry, baby.

5367
04:15:13,965 --> 04:15:15,620
I won't let anybody hurt you.

5368
04:15:16,758 --> 04:15:19,482
I always get questions
about those pajamas.

5369
04:15:19,482 --> 04:15:21,965
They seem to be the
most memorable aspect

5370
04:15:21,965 --> 04:15:24,275
of "Don't Panic".

5371
04:15:24,275 --> 04:15:25,724
Michael.

5372
04:15:25,724 --> 04:15:28,379
This time you have to stop him.

5373
04:15:28,379 --> 04:15:30,000
Don't fail.

5374
04:15:30,000 --> 04:15:31,448
What the fuck?

5375
04:15:31,448 --> 04:15:35,655
It almost felt like a
medically induced dream fever.

5376
04:15:35,655 --> 04:15:37,482
It was just so out there.

5377
04:15:38,482 --> 04:15:39,379
Hurry!

5378
04:15:42,620 --> 04:15:45,448
Do you believe in Satan?

5379
04:15:45,448 --> 04:15:47,827
Roberto Palazuelos is playing

5380
04:15:47,827 --> 04:15:50,862
the character of
a tough bully guy.

5381
04:15:50,862 --> 04:15:54,068
He goes inside the car,
sticks his head out

5382
04:15:54,068 --> 04:15:55,586
from the window.

5383
04:15:58,413 --> 04:16:01,103
What Screaming Mad
George did for us,

5384
04:16:01,103 --> 04:16:03,310
he made a piece of prosthetic,

5385
04:16:03,310 --> 04:16:06,827
like a retractable
knife inside the mouth.

5386
04:16:06,827 --> 04:16:08,896
And then when he
opened his mouth,

5387
04:16:08,896 --> 04:16:10,655
you could see the blade pop,

5388
04:16:10,655 --> 04:16:12,448
and the blood come
out of the mouth.

5389
04:16:12,448 --> 04:16:14,413
I think it was a very good kill.

5390
04:16:18,413 --> 04:16:20,689
It really became a success

5391
04:16:20,689 --> 04:16:22,724
when video came out.

5392
04:16:22,724 --> 04:16:25,103
And then we started
getting requests

5393
04:16:25,103 --> 04:16:26,517
from all the world.

5394
04:16:26,517 --> 04:16:31,137
We sold it in United Kingdom,
Japan, China, Germany.

5395
04:16:32,000 --> 04:16:32,931
I've gotta save Christie!

5396
04:16:32,931 --> 04:16:34,103
Please listen to me!

5397
04:16:36,965 --> 04:16:40,965
It scared the shit out
of the audience.

5398
04:16:40,965 --> 04:16:44,068
You want to play games?

5399
04:16:44,068 --> 04:16:44,896
Good.

5400
04:16:46,000 --> 04:16:47,034
I like games.

5401
04:16:54,034 --> 04:16:56,310
Say your prayers.

5402
04:16:58,620 --> 04:17:00,241
"Lady in White".

5403
04:17:00,241 --> 04:17:03,586
"Lady in White" is a
particularly strong example

5404
04:17:03,586 --> 04:17:05,000
of gateway horror.

5405
04:17:05,000 --> 04:17:08,068
That was one of the scariest
movies I saw as a kid,

5406
04:17:08,068 --> 04:17:11,448
because it's dealing with
very, very dark material,

5407
04:17:11,448 --> 04:17:13,931
and it's stuff that could
happen in real life.

5408
04:17:13,931 --> 04:17:16,896
The titular lady in
white is a ghost,

5409
04:17:16,896 --> 04:17:19,310
but what this movie
is really about

5410
04:17:19,310 --> 04:17:21,655
is a child killer.

5411
04:17:23,586 --> 04:17:26,000
It was seven years
between "Fear No Evil"

5412
04:17:26,000 --> 04:17:27,862
and "Lady in White"
before I got back

5413
04:17:27,862 --> 04:17:29,103
behind the camera again.

5414
04:17:29,103 --> 04:17:30,862
It was a remarkable experience,

5415
04:17:30,862 --> 04:17:34,068
such a far cry from
"Fear No Evil".

5416
04:17:34,068 --> 04:17:36,000
What I wanted to do this time

5417
04:17:36,000 --> 04:17:37,724
was really try to make something

5418
04:17:37,724 --> 04:17:40,413
that was personal on an
autobiographical level.

5419
04:17:40,413 --> 04:17:43,620
A beautiful story
about what it was like

5420
04:17:43,620 --> 04:17:44,896
growing up in that era,

5421
04:17:44,896 --> 04:17:48,793
and combine it with
this ghost story,

5422
04:17:48,793 --> 04:17:50,551
that drives it thematically,

5423
04:17:50,551 --> 04:17:53,379
and perhaps more
so commercially.

5424
04:17:59,310 --> 04:18:01,931
It's like the most
cinematic version of Halloween

5425
04:18:01,931 --> 04:18:03,068
that you can have.

5426
04:18:03,068 --> 04:18:04,551
It smells like Halloween,

5427
04:18:04,551 --> 04:18:07,896
like you watch that movie,
and it tastes like candy corn.

5428
04:18:07,896 --> 04:18:09,206
The seasonal feel.

5429
04:18:09,206 --> 04:18:10,758
We began during the fall,

5430
04:18:10,758 --> 04:18:13,379
and the moved into
the winter months.

5431
04:18:13,379 --> 04:18:16,172
I wanted a contrast
between the darkness

5432
04:18:16,172 --> 04:18:18,586
that was going to
happen in the film,

5433
04:18:18,586 --> 04:18:21,689
and these beautiful
bucolic moments.

5434
04:18:23,620 --> 04:18:24,896
Hey!

5435
04:18:24,896 --> 04:18:27,034
The first image
that came to mind

5436
04:18:27,034 --> 04:18:29,896
for "Lady in White" was
this image of Frankie

5437
04:18:29,896 --> 04:18:32,103
being locked in the cloakroom.

5438
04:18:34,379 --> 04:18:36,793
Comforted
by their ancient voices,

5439
04:18:36,793 --> 04:18:38,758
and I began to dream.

5440
04:18:38,758 --> 04:18:41,482
Lukas Haas plays
Frankie in this.

5441
04:18:41,482 --> 04:18:42,620
I'd seen him in "Witness",

5442
04:18:42,620 --> 04:18:44,000
I'd seen him in "Testament",

5443
04:18:44,000 --> 04:18:46,068
and I knew that this
kid was extraordinary.

5444
04:18:47,275 --> 04:18:51,517
He had an innate ability
to express his feelings.

5445
04:18:51,517 --> 04:18:53,655
That's what acting's all about.

5446
04:18:53,655 --> 04:18:57,448
Mom used to say sometimes
when someone dies violent,

5447
04:18:57,448 --> 04:18:58,827
they can't rest in peace.

5448
04:18:58,827 --> 04:19:01,275
The story is as much
about a time and place

5449
04:19:01,275 --> 04:19:03,275
as anything else.

5450
04:19:03,275 --> 04:19:05,000
A key character is a black man

5451
04:19:05,000 --> 04:19:07,724
who gets caught in the
madness of what's happening,

5452
04:19:07,724 --> 04:19:10,000
what's going on in that town.

5453
04:19:10,000 --> 04:19:12,448
Dealing with issues of race,

5454
04:19:12,448 --> 04:19:14,103
particular as it
relates to the lady,

5455
04:19:14,103 --> 04:19:16,103
what was going on in that era,

5456
04:19:16,103 --> 04:19:18,793
and being truthful as
to how people spoke,

5457
04:19:18,793 --> 04:19:21,034
how they reacted, how they dealt

5458
04:19:21,034 --> 04:19:23,000
with each other between races.

5459
04:19:23,000 --> 04:19:25,034
I wanted nothing but the truth.

5460
04:19:25,034 --> 04:19:27,310
Harold Williams is
a perfect scapegoat.

5461
04:19:27,310 --> 04:19:28,137
He's black.

5462
04:19:29,586 --> 04:19:32,448
When it comes to pure
cinematic drive and force,

5463
04:19:32,448 --> 04:19:34,827
I think the climax
works beautifully.

5464
04:19:36,413 --> 04:19:38,068
I think that theme of loss

5465
04:19:38,068 --> 04:19:39,310
and coming to terms with loss

5466
04:19:39,310 --> 04:19:42,275
and dealing with
loss is universal.

5467
04:19:42,275 --> 04:19:45,206
My mommy's lost
and I can't find her.

5468
04:19:45,206 --> 04:19:47,413
The "Lady in White",
it fucked me up.

5469
04:19:47,413 --> 04:19:50,206
Seeing it as a kid, in a
way that it just becomes

5470
04:19:50,206 --> 04:19:52,931
like embedded in you,
and become a core memory.

5471
04:19:52,931 --> 04:19:55,275
10-year-old
Melissa N. Montgomery

5472
04:19:55,275 --> 04:19:58,206
was the first victim believed
to have been murdered.

5473
04:19:58,206 --> 04:20:00,344
I'm glad that people
are still discovering

5474
04:20:00,344 --> 04:20:01,344
"Lady in White".

5475
04:20:06,241 --> 04:20:08,275
It continues to remain
somewhat hidden.

5476
04:20:08,275 --> 04:20:09,620
It's fun for me.

5477
04:20:09,620 --> 04:20:11,379
I already told him.

5478
04:20:11,379 --> 04:20:14,000
Her mother is the lady in white.

5479
04:20:23,241 --> 04:20:24,793
I'm awake!

5480
04:20:24,793 --> 04:20:26,310
"Dream Demon".

5481
04:20:26,310 --> 04:20:27,482
"Dream Demon".

5482
04:20:27,482 --> 04:20:29,586
The movie was
about the fine line

5483
04:20:29,586 --> 04:20:31,931
between dreams and reality.

5484
04:20:31,931 --> 04:20:34,862
I think I'm awake, and
then I keep waking up.

5485
04:20:34,862 --> 04:20:36,068
This is crazy.

5486
04:20:36,068 --> 04:20:37,344
You better call that
doctor friend of yours.

5487
04:20:37,344 --> 04:20:39,517
My character was
like a punk rock chick

5488
04:20:39,517 --> 04:20:42,206
connected to this English girl.

5489
04:20:42,206 --> 04:20:43,517
Wake up, Diana!

5490
04:20:43,517 --> 04:20:44,413
Come on!

5491
04:20:44,413 --> 04:20:45,206
Wake up!

5492
04:20:45,206 --> 04:20:46,793
Diana, please!

5493
04:20:46,793 --> 04:20:49,758
Ultimately we realized
that through our dreams

5494
04:20:49,758 --> 04:20:52,827
and in our ability to
crawl into our dreams,

5495
04:20:52,827 --> 04:20:55,586
I think that we
ended up bonding.

5496
04:20:56,482 --> 04:20:57,310
Cheers.

5497
04:20:57,310 --> 04:20:58,448
Now wake up!

5498
04:20:58,448 --> 04:21:00,310
Come on, wake up!

5499
04:21:00,310 --> 04:21:01,172
Wake up!

5500
04:21:01,172 --> 04:21:02,413
Stop!

5501
04:21:02,413 --> 04:21:03,896
I loved working
with Gemma Redgrave.

5502
04:21:03,896 --> 04:21:05,413
She was like my best friend.

5503
04:21:06,517 --> 04:21:07,931
No that's, no that's,
that's very good.

5504
04:21:07,931 --> 04:21:09,758
That's really very good.

5505
04:21:10,931 --> 04:21:13,793
Timothy Spall and Jimmy Nail.

5506
04:21:13,793 --> 04:21:15,724
I remember having
good laughs with them.

5507
04:21:15,724 --> 04:21:17,172
Hey come on, leave her alone.

5508
04:21:17,172 --> 04:21:18,896
What do you think
she is, dog meat?

5509
04:21:18,896 --> 04:21:19,793
Piss off, darling.

5510
04:21:19,793 --> 04:21:20,965
We're the press!

5511
04:21:20,965 --> 04:21:22,724
Oh yeah, well
print this, dickhead!

5512
04:21:23,551 --> 04:21:24,551
It was an adventure,

5513
04:21:25,689 --> 04:21:29,172
some groundbreaking
special effects.

5514
04:21:31,413 --> 04:21:33,862
All of these art director types

5515
04:21:33,862 --> 04:21:36,448
that got to really stretch
out their creativity

5516
04:21:36,448 --> 04:21:39,965
and just be as
gross as possible.

5517
04:21:42,517 --> 04:21:44,310
So I'd be like, huh.

5518
04:21:44,310 --> 04:21:47,206
She's crawling
through slime today.

5519
04:21:51,000 --> 04:21:52,896
The script was peculiar.

5520
04:21:52,896 --> 04:21:54,482
They had so many rewrites,

5521
04:21:54,482 --> 04:21:56,758
and the director
was kind of a nut.

5522
04:21:58,172 --> 04:22:00,448
They wanted me to stand in front

5523
04:22:00,448 --> 04:22:02,793
of these six foot flames.

5524
04:22:02,793 --> 04:22:05,724
It's hot, right?

5525
04:22:05,724 --> 04:22:07,758
The director was like
okay, you're gonna come in

5526
04:22:07,758 --> 04:22:09,758
in front of that
flame, and I'm like,

5527
04:22:09,758 --> 04:22:12,586
how about this, fuck
no I'm not gonna stand

5528
04:22:12,586 --> 04:22:14,896
in front of, and then
he got really mad at me,

5529
04:22:14,896 --> 04:22:16,689
and I was like, I'm not
standing in front of that.

5530
04:22:16,689 --> 04:22:17,793
That is dangerous.

5531
04:22:17,793 --> 04:22:18,896
Forget you.

5532
04:22:18,896 --> 04:22:20,344
You stand in front of it.

5533
04:22:20,344 --> 04:22:21,586
He's like, all right fine!

5534
04:22:21,586 --> 04:22:23,275
He stands in front of it,

5535
04:22:23,275 --> 04:22:25,758
and he singes the
back of his hair.

5536
04:22:28,965 --> 04:22:31,827
I have not worked with
Harley Cokeliss since.

5537
04:22:31,827 --> 04:22:35,758
I don't think I was his
favorite actress.

5538
04:22:37,379 --> 04:22:38,517
Diana!

5539
04:22:38,517 --> 04:22:39,965
The most challenging aspect

5540
04:22:39,965 --> 04:22:41,275
of working on horror films,

5541
04:22:41,275 --> 04:22:43,586
it's me screaming and crying.

5542
04:22:43,586 --> 04:22:48,517
It's me bringing to life my
own personal freaking fear,

5543
04:22:49,965 --> 04:22:51,620
so I guess bringing your
own reality to the screen

5544
04:22:51,620 --> 04:22:53,517
is the trickiest bit.

5545
04:22:53,517 --> 04:22:54,931
But what a blast.

5546
04:22:54,931 --> 04:22:56,137
I'll do it any day of the week.

5547
04:22:56,137 --> 04:22:57,448
Pay me.

5548
04:22:57,448 --> 04:22:58,551
Where's my mark?

5549
04:23:03,586 --> 04:23:04,862
Anybody who thinks
it's a good idea

5550
04:23:04,862 --> 04:23:06,896
to get shaved by a monkey

5551
04:23:06,896 --> 04:23:10,793
needs to reassess
their life plan.

5552
04:23:10,793 --> 04:23:12,000
You're not gonna hurt me.

5553
04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:13,000
I'm part of you.

5554
04:23:13,000 --> 04:23:14,827
"Monkey Shines".

5555
04:23:14,827 --> 04:23:16,965
A leap into terror.

5556
04:23:16,965 --> 04:23:20,137
"Monkey Shines"
is about a mind meld

5557
04:23:20,137 --> 04:23:24,068
between a man, who
suffered a horrible injury,

5558
04:23:24,068 --> 04:23:27,310
and this monkey.

5559
04:23:27,310 --> 04:23:29,034
You're giving me a monkey?

5560
04:23:29,034 --> 04:23:30,724
How am I supposed to
take care of it, Jeff?

5561
04:23:30,724 --> 04:23:32,620
The idea is that it's
gonna take care of you.

5562
04:23:32,620 --> 04:23:35,000
He ends up becoming telepathic

5563
04:23:35,000 --> 04:23:37,448
with this monkey, and
the monkey ends up

5564
04:23:37,448 --> 04:23:39,310
becoming kind of
jealous of the people

5565
04:23:39,310 --> 04:23:41,724
that are close to our main dude.

5566
04:23:41,724 --> 04:23:42,965
Allan-

5567
04:23:46,482 --> 04:23:48,103
And the monkey starts to enact

5568
04:23:48,103 --> 04:23:52,000
a lot of the rage that the
quadriplegic is experiencing,

5569
04:23:52,000 --> 04:23:54,655
and people start to be killed.

5570
04:23:59,448 --> 04:24:01,862
It sounds all
very far-fetched,

5571
04:24:01,862 --> 04:24:03,758
but the way that
Romero handles it

5572
04:24:03,758 --> 04:24:06,413
is completely expert,
and a perfect example

5573
04:24:06,413 --> 04:24:08,724
of what a great
filmmaker Romero was,

5574
04:24:08,724 --> 04:24:11,275
even out of the zone of zombies.

5575
04:24:12,620 --> 04:24:14,068
Yeah, yeah.

5576
04:24:14,068 --> 04:24:15,517
I made up a formulation
based on human memory cells.

5577
04:24:15,517 --> 04:24:17,000
I've been injecting
one of my monkeys.

5578
04:24:17,000 --> 04:24:19,000
George sets the tone.

5579
04:24:19,000 --> 04:24:20,310
Come on, give it right here.

5580
04:24:20,310 --> 04:24:21,413
Now, now.

5581
04:24:22,344 --> 04:24:23,275
- Thank you.
- Good girl.

5582
04:24:23,275 --> 04:24:25,000
It was a fun set to be on.

5583
04:24:26,448 --> 04:24:27,689
Jason Beghe.

5584
04:24:27,689 --> 04:24:29,172
I liked Jason a lot.

5585
04:24:29,172 --> 04:24:30,965
He was a very intense guy.

5586
04:24:30,965 --> 04:24:32,103
Don't.

5587
04:24:32,103 --> 04:24:32,965
Do not.

5588
04:24:32,965 --> 04:24:34,206
Don't do it!

5589
04:24:35,379 --> 04:24:36,655
Goddam you, you-

5590
04:24:36,655 --> 04:24:38,448
I think it was a lot
more pressure for him.

5591
04:24:38,448 --> 04:24:41,379
He was carrying
that film, really.

5592
04:24:45,000 --> 04:24:46,137
I love monkeys!

5593
04:24:46,137 --> 04:24:47,689
Monkeys are awesome!

5594
04:24:47,689 --> 04:24:50,000
Well, not so much.

5595
04:24:50,000 --> 04:24:52,655
Kind of scary, really.

5596
04:24:53,862 --> 04:24:56,206
I really wanted to
love the monkeys,

5597
04:24:56,206 --> 04:24:57,965
but truthfully, I
had to really fake

5598
04:24:57,965 --> 04:24:59,379
not being scared.

5599
04:24:59,379 --> 04:25:01,034
Hey, company's here.

5600
04:25:01,034 --> 04:25:01,965
Come on.

5601
04:25:01,965 --> 04:25:03,482
They're very strong.

5602
04:25:03,482 --> 04:25:06,620
In the pivotal scene,
monkey's trying to drug me

5603
04:25:06,620 --> 04:25:09,034
with this hypodermic needle.

5604
04:25:09,034 --> 04:25:11,793
I had to wrestle
with the monkey.

5605
04:25:12,724 --> 04:25:14,206
And a lot of that was a puppet.

5606
04:25:14,206 --> 04:25:16,551
But there was one short time

5607
04:25:16,551 --> 04:25:18,482
where I was actually holding on

5608
04:25:18,482 --> 04:25:19,413
to a real monkey.

5609
04:25:19,413 --> 04:25:20,241
Ella, no!

5610
04:25:24,620 --> 04:25:26,517
I can't say I had a lot
of affection for them.

5611
04:25:26,517 --> 04:25:27,896
But I faked it really well.

5612
04:25:29,172 --> 04:25:30,965
And we had that love scene

5613
04:25:30,965 --> 04:25:33,862
that was one of the
more challenging scenes

5614
04:25:33,862 --> 04:25:35,137
I've ever had to do.

5615
04:25:36,275 --> 04:25:38,931
As a young boy,
watching that sequence

5616
04:25:38,931 --> 04:25:41,827
and wondering about how this guy

5617
04:25:41,827 --> 04:25:44,793
was going to have an
encounter with this woman

5618
04:25:44,793 --> 04:25:46,000
that we knew he liked,

5619
04:25:46,000 --> 04:25:48,172
and the way that happened,

5620
04:25:48,172 --> 04:25:50,000
the harness thing for his bed,

5621
04:25:50,000 --> 04:25:55,000
and this monkey's watching,
like getting angry.

5622
04:25:55,000 --> 04:25:57,068
That movie's messed up, man.

5623
04:25:58,379 --> 04:25:59,517
We were in it together,

5624
04:25:59,517 --> 04:26:00,965
and we got through it.

5625
04:26:00,965 --> 04:26:02,482
I do believe we
drank a little bit

5626
04:26:02,482 --> 04:26:05,482
of champagne during it to relax,

5627
04:26:05,482 --> 04:26:10,344
because it's so hard, these
intimate scenes, you know?

5628
04:26:10,344 --> 04:26:11,793
With a crew.

5629
04:26:13,724 --> 04:26:16,482
It's a scene I'm
actually pretty proud of.

5630
04:26:16,482 --> 04:26:18,206
"Monkey Shines"
is George Romero's

5631
04:26:18,206 --> 04:26:19,689
first studio movie.

5632
04:26:19,689 --> 04:26:22,310
The movie was taken
away from him and recut,

5633
04:26:22,310 --> 04:26:24,827
after he added things
that they asked for.

5634
04:26:26,482 --> 04:26:28,413
The original ending
was much darker,

5635
04:26:28,413 --> 04:26:30,137
and they hated that.

5636
04:26:30,137 --> 04:26:33,310
I wish we could see
George's original vision.

5637
04:26:33,310 --> 04:26:35,724
It's what happens when
you work for a studio.

5638
04:26:35,724 --> 04:26:37,034
The movie's not yours.

5639
04:26:37,034 --> 04:26:40,103
Even if it wasn't
appreciated at the time,

5640
04:26:40,103 --> 04:26:42,655
I think anybody who
appreciates George

5641
04:26:42,655 --> 04:26:45,310
is gonna take another
look at any of his work.

5642
04:26:45,310 --> 04:26:47,000
It's an interesting story.

5643
04:26:48,379 --> 04:26:50,862
It has survived better
than I would have thought

5644
04:26:50,862 --> 04:26:53,000
at the time, that's for sure.

5645
04:27:01,689 --> 04:27:03,000
"Black Roses".

5646
04:27:03,000 --> 04:27:07,000
The hottest band
this side of hell.

5647
04:27:07,000 --> 04:27:09,000
A big heavy metal
band is coming

5648
04:27:09,000 --> 04:27:10,827
to do a series of concerts,

5649
04:27:10,827 --> 04:27:14,000
and the parents in the town
are very much against it,

5650
04:27:14,000 --> 04:27:16,620
because you know, rock and
roll leads to the devil.

5651
04:27:17,758 --> 04:27:20,241
The fact that we had
Julie Adams in the movie

5652
04:27:20,241 --> 04:27:22,344
was a thrill for all
of us monster kids,

5653
04:27:22,344 --> 04:27:25,344
because she was in "The
Creature from the Black Lagoon".

5654
04:27:25,344 --> 04:27:28,310
Their satanic music
and subversive lyrics

5655
04:27:28,310 --> 04:27:31,827
threaten to undermine the
very fabric of our society.

5656
04:27:31,827 --> 04:27:33,275
John Fasano.

5657
04:27:33,275 --> 04:27:35,448
We did four movies
in four years.

5658
04:27:36,862 --> 04:27:40,344
John and I had known each
other since elementary school.

5659
04:27:40,344 --> 04:27:42,034
And so now, here
comes the biggest thing

5660
04:27:42,034 --> 04:27:45,310
to hit Mill Basin ever,
and they try to stop it?

5661
04:27:45,310 --> 04:27:46,931
You call that good?

5662
04:27:46,931 --> 04:27:51,034
When the investors saw
the first cut of the film,

5663
04:27:51,034 --> 04:27:53,551
they were like,
it's a little short.

5664
04:27:53,551 --> 04:27:56,793
It needs more monsters,
and more boobs.

5665
04:27:58,517 --> 04:28:01,655
So we shot these
additional sequences.

5666
04:28:01,655 --> 04:28:05,206
I did do some special
effects for the reshoot.

5667
04:28:06,482 --> 04:28:09,724
John wanted her hand
to be starting to look

5668
04:28:09,724 --> 04:28:14,724
like it was changing, so
I sculpted an appliance.

5669
04:28:16,137 --> 04:28:18,344
She's there, and she's sort of
caressing herself like this,

5670
04:28:18,344 --> 04:28:22,172
and I'm just going like,
nobody's looking at that hand.

5671
04:28:26,862 --> 04:28:29,517
Mike Maddi designed
this creature.

5672
04:28:34,034 --> 04:28:35,758
It was like bald, and
had these huge fangs,

5673
04:28:35,758 --> 04:28:39,103
and these long, sinewy
arms, and talons.

5674
04:28:40,586 --> 04:28:44,517
And it took five of us
to work that puppet.

5675
04:28:48,172 --> 04:28:49,620
It's definitely a major leap

5676
04:28:49,620 --> 04:28:52,103
from "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare"
in terms of the effects.

5677
04:28:52,103 --> 04:28:54,965
The record starts bubbling up.

5678
04:28:57,034 --> 04:28:58,586
What the fuck?

5679
04:28:58,586 --> 04:29:02,000
And then it becomes this
creature that attacks him.

5680
04:29:06,689 --> 04:29:09,103
Probably the best
effect in the movie,

5681
04:29:09,103 --> 04:29:13,758
listening to metal, and metal
inviting in this monster.

5682
04:29:13,758 --> 04:29:16,896
It's clearly playing
on satanic panic.

5683
04:29:21,103 --> 04:29:23,689
Maybe the parents in
the PTA have a point,

5684
04:29:23,689 --> 04:29:25,965
and this is Satan music.

5685
04:29:25,965 --> 04:29:27,137
So that's kind of funny.

5686
04:29:28,137 --> 04:29:29,000
Let's make blood city!

5687
04:29:33,034 --> 04:29:35,413
"Black Roses", yeah the
band actually are from hell.

5688
04:29:35,413 --> 04:29:37,034
What do you know?

5689
04:29:37,034 --> 04:29:38,275
We are the Black Roses.

5690
04:29:39,655 --> 04:29:42,103
The flowers of evil!

5691
04:29:42,103 --> 04:29:44,000
You have been chosen.

5692
04:29:52,896 --> 04:29:54,137
"The Brain".

5693
04:29:54,137 --> 04:29:55,344
What I love about that title

5694
04:29:55,344 --> 04:29:57,413
is that nobody
would second guess

5695
04:29:57,413 --> 04:29:59,241
that a movie called "The Brain"

5696
04:29:59,241 --> 04:30:02,103
is about a brain
that kills people.

5697
04:30:08,793 --> 04:30:12,275
The plot revolves around
this evil scientist

5698
04:30:12,275 --> 04:30:14,413
played by David Gale,
who you might remember

5699
04:30:14,413 --> 04:30:17,172
as the professor
in "Re-Animator".

5700
04:30:17,172 --> 04:30:18,000
I will be famous!

5701
04:30:21,896 --> 04:30:25,551
He runs this TV show
that brainwashes people,

5702
04:30:25,551 --> 04:30:27,586
and gains control of their minds

5703
04:30:27,586 --> 04:30:30,000
with the help of this
weird brain monster,

5704
04:30:30,000 --> 04:30:32,517
and then there's this
rebel high school student,

5705
04:30:32,517 --> 04:30:35,172
who's the only one who
can resist the brain's

5706
04:30:35,172 --> 04:30:37,862
mind controlling power,
and save the day.

5707
04:30:39,482 --> 04:30:40,724
You can go now.

5708
04:30:40,724 --> 04:30:42,034
What the hell happened to me?

5709
04:30:42,034 --> 04:30:44,862
But not without some
horrific hallucinations.

5710
04:30:44,862 --> 04:30:47,034
The protagonist,
he's driving the car,

5711
04:30:47,034 --> 04:30:50,448
and the brain is sort
of taking over his mind.

5712
04:30:50,448 --> 04:30:52,000
I mean, could you imagine that?

5713
04:30:52,000 --> 04:30:53,206
If you're driving a car,

5714
04:30:53,206 --> 04:30:55,310
and then you just see
a video wipe transition

5715
04:30:56,241 --> 04:30:57,724
turn into a brain?

5716
04:30:58,586 --> 04:31:00,000
Holy shit.

5717
04:31:05,793 --> 04:31:07,275
Look at that brain.

5718
04:31:07,275 --> 04:31:09,000
You can't tell how
it moves around.

5719
04:31:09,000 --> 04:31:10,931
All you see is
this enormous face

5720
04:31:10,931 --> 04:31:12,827
coming after people.

5721
04:31:15,344 --> 04:31:18,724
It's kind of scary, but
it's also really funny.

5722
04:31:24,000 --> 04:31:25,241
That's food for thought.

5723
04:31:25,241 --> 04:31:26,862
I mean, you just
look at that thing,

5724
04:31:26,862 --> 04:31:28,689
and you gotta love it.

5725
04:31:30,000 --> 04:31:32,344
So there's this toy and
a cartoon in the 80s

5726
04:31:32,344 --> 04:31:33,965
called Madballs.

5727
04:31:33,965 --> 04:31:35,517
Madballs, Madballs!

5728
04:31:35,517 --> 04:31:37,448
Gross for one, gross for all!

5729
04:31:37,448 --> 04:31:39,068
We play with a Madball!

5730
04:31:39,068 --> 04:31:40,379
They're gross!

5731
04:31:40,379 --> 04:31:41,344
That's what the
brain looks like.

5732
04:31:41,344 --> 04:31:43,965
It's a giant Madball attacking.

5733
04:31:56,620 --> 04:31:59,241
I worked in Madrid
on a wonderful film

5734
04:31:59,241 --> 04:32:00,758
called "Howl of the Devil".

5735
04:32:00,758 --> 04:32:02,000
I love Spain.

5736
04:32:02,000 --> 04:32:03,103
I've done quite a
bit of work in Spain

5737
04:32:03,103 --> 04:32:05,586
with Sinbad, and various things.

5738
04:32:10,000 --> 04:32:12,689
Paul Naschy, both
directing and as an actor

5739
04:32:12,689 --> 04:32:13,620
in his own right.

5740
04:32:13,620 --> 04:32:15,827
He had such presence on camera.

5741
04:32:23,724 --> 04:32:26,931
Menacing presence, but
he was very charismatic.

5742
04:32:34,827 --> 04:32:36,413
And I'd be speaking
English to him,

5743
04:32:36,413 --> 04:32:38,931
and in post, they'd dub him.

5744
04:32:43,965 --> 04:32:45,896
The plot basically was this man,

5745
04:32:45,896 --> 04:32:48,517
by day, he was quite
normal, head of the house,

5746
04:32:48,517 --> 04:32:50,931
and he had his
lovely son, Sergio.

5747
04:32:50,931 --> 04:32:52,931
And I was the maid
that came to clean up,

5748
04:32:52,931 --> 04:32:55,344
and look after the
son, basically.

5749
04:32:55,344 --> 04:32:57,344
But then by night,
he would change

5750
04:32:57,344 --> 04:32:59,517
into these wonderful characters.

5751
04:32:59,517 --> 04:33:03,241
He became Frankenstein,
he became the wolf man.

5752
04:33:03,241 --> 04:33:05,275
These very strange characters.

5753
04:33:12,724 --> 04:33:14,724
Some of the sequences
we had to do

5754
04:33:14,724 --> 04:33:17,344
the man with a
great big chainsaw

5755
04:33:17,344 --> 04:33:19,206
that came running after us.

5756
04:33:19,206 --> 04:33:22,517
No!

5757
04:33:23,931 --> 04:33:25,172
Carmen.

5758
04:33:25,172 --> 04:33:26,827
I liked her, because
she was very proud.

5759
04:33:26,827 --> 04:33:28,758
Quite a holy Catholic lady.

5760
04:33:28,758 --> 04:33:30,896
And then the priest,
who was a lovely

5761
04:33:30,896 --> 04:33:32,448
sweet, sweet actor.

5762
04:33:35,448 --> 04:33:38,068
Was trying to molest
her, to attack her.

5763
04:33:39,586 --> 04:33:41,275
It was quite an emotional
scene, actually, for me.

5764
04:33:41,275 --> 04:33:43,275
And for him, because
he was so upset.

5765
04:33:43,275 --> 04:33:45,068
He spoke English, he
said I'm so sorry,

5766
04:33:45,068 --> 04:33:46,586
he says, so sorry.

5767
04:33:46,586 --> 04:33:48,862
Paul want me to do this,
and I don't want to do it.

5768
04:33:50,000 --> 04:33:51,655
I said, we'll make it
look as good as we can,

5769
04:33:51,655 --> 04:33:54,448
but I might push you
and punch you a bit.

5770
04:33:54,448 --> 04:33:55,413
He said, that's okay.

5771
04:33:55,413 --> 04:33:56,241
He said, I don't mind.

5772
04:33:56,241 --> 04:33:57,793
You do what you do.

5773
04:33:57,793 --> 04:33:59,206
So then we went for it,

5774
04:33:59,206 --> 04:34:02,034
and I managed to get
away from him, basically.

5775
04:34:07,379 --> 04:34:09,896
It felt like one of
my better scenes,

5776
04:34:09,896 --> 04:34:13,103
because she was in a really
state of distress before it,

5777
04:34:13,103 --> 04:34:15,103
and this exacerbated it,

5778
04:34:15,103 --> 04:34:17,068
made it far worse for her.

5779
04:34:21,827 --> 04:34:24,862
Paul was, to me, the
king of Spanish cinema.

5780
04:34:24,862 --> 04:34:25,862
He absolutely was.

5781
04:34:25,862 --> 04:34:27,827
People loved him.

5782
04:34:42,241 --> 04:34:43,758
When we talk about genre,
and we try to put things

5783
04:34:43,758 --> 04:34:46,310
in boxes, one of the ways
we got in trouble very early

5784
04:34:46,310 --> 04:34:49,275
was we conflated a
setting with a feeling.

5785
04:34:50,241 --> 04:34:51,896
Horror is an emotion.

5786
04:34:51,896 --> 04:34:54,275
So you can have a
horror in space.

5787
04:34:54,275 --> 04:34:55,655
You can horror in the old west.

5788
04:34:55,655 --> 04:34:56,931
You can have horror in a comedy.

5789
04:34:56,931 --> 04:35:00,275
It looked like
this!

5790
04:35:01,517 --> 04:35:03,551
Horror is about a
feeling that you evoke

5791
04:35:03,551 --> 04:35:04,965
in your audience.

5792
04:35:04,965 --> 04:35:05,827
Lollipops!

5793
04:35:07,862 --> 04:35:11,103
And all free today!

5794
04:35:11,103 --> 04:35:13,103
Horror is a more
flexible genre

5795
04:35:13,103 --> 04:35:16,068
than people realize, and
oftentimes it can be found

5796
04:35:16,068 --> 04:35:19,103
hiding within other
genres, nested in there,

5797
04:35:19,103 --> 04:35:21,241
waiting to strike at any moment.

5798
04:35:23,379 --> 04:35:25,172
Fear is always there.

5799
04:35:25,172 --> 04:35:27,724
It's just one decision,
or one thought,

5800
04:35:27,724 --> 04:35:30,793
or one perspective away from
being right in your face.

5801
04:35:30,793 --> 04:35:33,172
Any movie could suddenly
become a horror movie.

5802
04:35:35,275 --> 04:35:36,448
You're dead.

5803
04:35:36,448 --> 04:35:38,241
Horror is catching
you off guard,

5804
04:35:38,241 --> 04:35:40,655
and taking you off
your axis somewhat.

5805
04:35:40,655 --> 04:35:41,586
No!

5806
04:35:48,310 --> 04:35:49,620
The horror has been
a part of our lives,

5807
04:35:49,620 --> 04:35:50,862
new just didn't know it.

5808
04:35:50,862 --> 04:35:52,896
It was dressed up
in fairy tales.

5809
04:35:52,896 --> 04:35:54,310
But it's always
been a part of us,

5810
04:35:54,310 --> 04:35:56,586
because fear and darkness

5811
04:35:56,586 --> 04:35:58,103
is always a part of your life.

5812
04:35:58,103 --> 04:35:59,068
It's part of life.

5813
04:36:00,034 --> 04:36:01,758
Disney goes very dark.

5814
04:36:01,758 --> 04:36:03,655
"Pinocchio", for instance.

5815
04:36:03,655 --> 04:36:05,275
The Pleasure Island scene.

5816
04:36:06,517 --> 04:36:08,931
Bad little boys doing
bad little things,

5817
04:36:08,931 --> 04:36:11,517
smoking cigars, gambling,

5818
04:36:11,517 --> 04:36:13,379
until they turn into donkeys,

5819
04:36:13,379 --> 04:36:14,862
because it's a cautionary tale.

5820
04:36:14,862 --> 04:36:17,517
They're doing the shit they're
not supposed to be doing,

5821
04:36:17,517 --> 04:36:19,137
and they just
start transforming.

5822
04:36:20,241 --> 04:36:21,586
What do I do?

5823
04:36:22,482 --> 04:36:23,551
"Willy Wonka".

5824
04:36:23,551 --> 04:36:25,724
Not a horror movie, per se.

5825
04:36:25,724 --> 04:36:27,413
Does it have horror elements?

5826
04:36:27,413 --> 04:36:29,517
Abso-fucking-lutely.

5827
04:36:29,517 --> 04:36:32,000
Round the world
and home again!

5828
04:36:32,000 --> 04:36:33,896
That's the sailor's way!

5829
04:36:33,896 --> 04:36:36,896
The horrific
nightmare boat sequence,

5830
04:36:36,896 --> 04:36:38,620
where he's just staring deadpan,

5831
04:36:38,620 --> 04:36:41,034
and starts singing
that weird song.

5832
04:36:41,034 --> 04:36:44,034
♪ There's no earthly
way of knowing ♪

5833
04:36:44,034 --> 04:36:45,482
He's singing.

5834
04:36:45,482 --> 04:36:47,448
And there's like,
these horrible projection

5835
04:36:47,448 --> 04:36:48,793
that are happening.

5836
04:36:50,862 --> 04:36:53,068
As a child, I was sitting
there watching this

5837
04:36:53,068 --> 04:36:55,310
thinking what the
fuck is happening?

5838
04:36:55,310 --> 04:36:56,758
Now I am gonna be sick!

5839
04:36:56,758 --> 04:36:58,379
Never mind the fact
that these children

5840
04:36:58,379 --> 04:37:00,482
are just getting
offed, one by one.

5841
04:37:00,482 --> 04:37:02,379
It's kind of like
a slasher movie.

5842
04:37:03,206 --> 04:37:04,655
She was a bad egg.

5843
04:37:04,655 --> 04:37:07,586
I seem to find horror
in every film I see

5844
04:37:07,586 --> 04:37:09,482
at some point.

5845
04:37:10,827 --> 04:37:13,379
Any time you're writing
interesting characters,

5846
04:37:13,379 --> 04:37:14,758
they're gonna have a dark side,

5847
04:37:14,758 --> 04:37:17,517
and so if you get some
people with problems,

5848
04:37:17,517 --> 04:37:19,827
and issues, and
anger, and stuff,

5849
04:37:19,827 --> 04:37:22,413
then you have a
dangerous situation,

5850
04:37:22,413 --> 04:37:24,517
and that's scary.

5851
04:37:26,241 --> 04:37:28,068
We might not call
"Blue Velvet" horror,

5852
04:37:28,068 --> 04:37:30,137
but I do know it was
covered in Fangoria.

5853
04:37:30,137 --> 04:37:31,931
David Lynch is bouncing
in and out of horror

5854
04:37:31,931 --> 04:37:33,413
throughout all of his films,

5855
04:37:33,413 --> 04:37:35,206
and I think horror fans,

5856
04:37:35,206 --> 04:37:36,620
our antenna perked up.

5857
04:37:36,620 --> 04:37:39,034
It delivers horror
probably more effectively

5858
04:37:39,034 --> 04:37:41,620
than half the movies sitting
in the horror section

5859
04:37:41,620 --> 04:37:42,689
at the video store.

5860
04:37:44,689 --> 04:37:45,931
The severed ear moment.

5861
04:37:45,931 --> 04:37:47,068
The camera moves in.

5862
04:37:47,068 --> 04:37:48,000
There's ants on it.

5863
04:37:48,000 --> 04:37:49,931
It's incredibly graphic.

5864
04:37:49,931 --> 04:37:51,482
That's a pure horror moment.

5865
04:37:53,965 --> 04:37:55,689
Don't you fucking look at me!

5866
04:37:55,689 --> 04:37:58,517
Frank Booth is one of
the great horror villains.

5867
04:37:58,517 --> 04:38:01,482
He was terrifying, because
he was unpredictable.

5868
04:38:01,482 --> 04:38:04,137
He was a madman,
and it felt unsafe

5869
04:38:04,137 --> 04:38:06,379
in a way that by, say, 1986,

5870
04:38:06,379 --> 04:38:08,137
a lot of our movie
slashers didn't.

5871
04:38:09,344 --> 04:38:11,482
Does horror even
need to be scary?

5872
04:38:11,482 --> 04:38:13,758
It just has to disturb
you in some kind of way.

5873
04:38:13,758 --> 04:38:15,000
What's cool about the 1980s

5874
04:38:15,000 --> 04:38:17,310
is horror was so
big, that it actually

5875
04:38:17,310 --> 04:38:19,517
infiltrated other genres.

5876
04:38:20,448 --> 04:38:22,896
Ow!

5877
04:38:22,896 --> 04:38:24,241
I'm glad to see
you finally made it

5878
04:38:24,241 --> 04:38:25,931
to the suburbs, bitch!

5879
04:38:25,931 --> 04:38:28,413
My first horror
film, "Return to Oz".

5880
04:38:28,413 --> 04:38:30,586
It's like mombie
taking her heads off,

5881
04:38:30,586 --> 04:38:32,000
screaming, the wheelers.

5882
04:38:34,206 --> 04:38:35,448
Come here!

5883
04:38:35,448 --> 04:38:37,344
It can be a character,

5884
04:38:37,344 --> 04:38:39,689
like one person in that
film brings the horror.

5885
04:38:39,689 --> 04:38:41,655
The judge in "Roger
Rabbit", right?

5886
04:38:42,586 --> 04:38:44,103
When I killed your brother,

5887
04:38:44,103 --> 04:38:46,103
I talked just like this!

5888
04:38:49,068 --> 04:38:51,206
"Indiana Jones and
the Temple of Doom",

5889
04:38:51,206 --> 04:38:55,310
looking as a human hand
plunged into the chest

5890
04:38:55,310 --> 04:38:58,137
of a sacrificial victim,
and the beating heart

5891
04:38:58,137 --> 04:38:59,379
was ripped out.

5892
04:38:59,379 --> 04:39:02,931
This horrifying
ritual really held

5893
04:39:02,931 --> 04:39:04,551
all the elements of horror.

5894
04:39:09,344 --> 04:39:11,137
A movie that scared
the crap out of me

5895
04:39:11,137 --> 04:39:13,793
when I was little was "The Wiz".

5896
04:39:18,689 --> 04:39:20,862
My favorite movie of all
time was "Wizard of Oz",

5897
04:39:20,862 --> 04:39:22,275
which is also pretty scary.

5898
04:39:22,275 --> 04:39:23,310
You know, you get to
those winged monkeys,

5899
04:39:23,310 --> 04:39:25,034
and it's like, terror.

5900
04:39:27,758 --> 04:39:28,689
Help, help!

5901
04:39:28,689 --> 04:39:29,517
Help!

5902
04:39:30,862 --> 04:39:33,172
"The Dark Crystal",
"The Black Cauldron",

5903
04:39:33,172 --> 04:39:35,310
like animation, horror.

5904
04:39:35,310 --> 04:39:36,758
The field.

5905
04:39:36,758 --> 04:39:38,758
It's covered with blood.

5906
04:39:42,862 --> 04:39:44,931
These movies have
elements of horror,

5907
04:39:44,931 --> 04:39:46,413
and that's what we grew up on.

5908
04:39:48,586 --> 04:39:51,724
The psyche can do crazy
things to you, as well.

5909
04:39:51,724 --> 04:39:53,172
Your thoughts can
turn dark on you,

5910
04:39:53,172 --> 04:39:55,551
and that's also scary,
and a person that you know

5911
04:39:55,551 --> 04:39:57,862
can change on you,
and that's scary.

5912
04:39:57,862 --> 04:39:59,275
Aging is scary.

5913
04:39:59,275 --> 04:40:00,758
Dreams are scary.

5914
04:40:00,758 --> 04:40:01,655
The dark is scary.

5915
04:40:01,655 --> 04:40:03,413
There's dark everyday.

5916
04:40:03,413 --> 04:40:06,206
It's gonna get dark
everyday.

5917
04:40:06,206 --> 04:40:07,586
It's gonna get scary.

5918
04:40:08,655 --> 04:40:09,482
Wait!

5919
04:40:09,482 --> 04:40:10,517
Ow!

5920
04:40:10,517 --> 04:40:14,793
Get away!

5921
04:40:14,793 --> 04:40:16,000
Horror is everywhere.

5922
04:40:17,103 --> 04:40:18,000
It's everywhere.

5923
04:40:30,689 --> 04:40:33,965
"Things"
a horrifying sensation

5924
04:40:33,965 --> 04:40:36,862
that'll rip apart your soul.

5925
04:40:36,862 --> 04:40:39,724
A lot of people know
that Canadian horror movies

5926
04:40:39,724 --> 04:40:41,724
are Canadian just because
they're in English,

5927
04:40:41,724 --> 04:40:44,172
so they get lumped in
with American ones,

5928
04:40:44,172 --> 04:40:45,379
but don't be fooled.

5929
04:40:45,379 --> 04:40:46,862
Just because Canadians
have a reputation

5930
04:40:46,862 --> 04:40:49,103
for being polite doesn't
mean our horror movies are.

5931
04:40:49,103 --> 04:40:51,482
Canada actually made a
lot of slasher movies

5932
04:40:51,482 --> 04:40:52,931
in the 80s, which
is appropriate,

5933
04:40:52,931 --> 04:40:54,379
because we helped
start the genre

5934
04:40:54,379 --> 04:40:57,137
with the original "Black
Christmas" back in the 70s.

5935
04:40:58,689 --> 04:41:00,482
Why should America
have all the fun?

5936
04:41:01,655 --> 04:41:03,862
In addition to all those
great slasher movies,

5937
04:41:03,862 --> 04:41:06,827
Canada was also responsible
for making this movie

5938
04:41:06,827 --> 04:41:08,931
called "Things",
which has been called

5939
04:41:08,931 --> 04:41:11,172
one of the worst
movies ever made.

5940
04:41:16,206 --> 04:41:17,517
Oh no!

5941
04:41:17,517 --> 04:41:18,862
What did I do?

5942
04:41:18,862 --> 04:41:21,448
These two idiots sit
around and drink beer

5943
04:41:21,448 --> 04:41:23,793
for a little bit, and
then all of a sudden,

5944
04:41:23,793 --> 04:41:26,793
these weird ant thingies
invade their home.

5945
04:41:30,034 --> 04:41:31,758
Oh my god!

5946
04:41:31,758 --> 04:41:32,586
Susan!

5947
04:41:33,620 --> 04:41:35,724
It's not a horror comedy,

5948
04:41:35,724 --> 04:41:38,000
but I'd be hard pressed
to find something funnier,

5949
04:41:38,000 --> 04:41:39,862
because it's fucking terrible.

5950
04:41:46,517 --> 04:41:50,000
The whole thing has a very
home movie quality to it.

5951
04:41:50,000 --> 04:41:52,379
Everything looks homemade,
like the little ants

5952
04:41:52,379 --> 04:41:54,620
looks like they're made
out of paper mache,

5953
04:41:54,620 --> 04:41:56,931
the blood looks like
they mixed food coloring

5954
04:41:56,931 --> 04:41:58,172
and corn syrup.

5955
04:41:58,172 --> 04:42:00,689
Mm, that's human
blood, all right.

5956
04:42:00,689 --> 04:42:03,310
"Things" might just
be the most Canadian

5957
04:42:03,310 --> 04:42:05,172
movie ever made, and
I don't just mean

5958
04:42:05,172 --> 04:42:06,931
most Canadian horror movie,

5959
04:42:06,931 --> 04:42:10,448
I mean the most
Canadian movie, period.

5960
04:42:10,448 --> 04:42:11,310
Oh thanks, man.

5961
04:42:12,206 --> 04:42:13,413
You can practically smell

5962
04:42:13,413 --> 04:42:15,379
the half empty Molson bottles,

5963
04:42:15,379 --> 04:42:17,586
watching this movie.

5964
04:42:17,586 --> 04:42:21,206
Blood is just dripping
like maple syrup!

5965
04:42:21,206 --> 04:42:22,758
The big selling
point for "Things"

5966
04:42:22,758 --> 04:42:25,620
is that Ginger Lynn is in
it, the famous porn star.

5967
04:42:25,620 --> 04:42:27,310
But when you see the
movie, she's not doing

5968
04:42:27,310 --> 04:42:29,344
anything porn related.

5969
04:42:29,344 --> 04:42:31,517
She's like a newscaster
for, I don't know,

5970
04:42:31,517 --> 04:42:33,448
30 seconds at the
beginning of the movie.

5971
04:42:33,448 --> 04:42:35,000
They probably took
whatever budget they had

5972
04:42:35,000 --> 04:42:36,758
and gave her half of it,

5973
04:42:36,758 --> 04:42:38,551
so what, two grand maybe.

5974
04:42:40,586 --> 04:42:42,758
At the end of the
movie, they start killing

5975
04:42:42,758 --> 04:42:44,689
these weird ant things
with a chainsaw,

5976
04:42:44,689 --> 04:42:46,517
and spraying fake
blood everywhere.

5977
04:42:46,517 --> 04:42:47,827
I really hope the
guys who made it

5978
04:42:47,827 --> 04:42:49,931
got their damage deposit
back on the place

5979
04:42:49,931 --> 04:42:51,241
they were staying.

5980
04:42:53,275 --> 04:42:54,275
But now that everyone seems

5981
04:42:54,275 --> 04:42:56,379
to be talking about it again,

5982
04:42:56,379 --> 04:43:01,379
do I dare subject myself to
the ridiculosity of "Things"?

5983
04:43:02,551 --> 04:43:04,241
I'll be
okay!

5984
04:43:14,137 --> 04:43:16,793
The situation in
Venice is now critical.

5985
04:43:16,793 --> 04:43:19,310
A giant toxic cloud has
settled over the city,

5986
04:43:19,310 --> 04:43:21,586
and is slowly destroying
every form of life.

5987
04:43:21,586 --> 04:43:23,793
I'm in an infamous movie

5988
04:43:23,793 --> 04:43:25,724
that has several
different titles.

5989
04:43:25,724 --> 04:43:28,034
"Shocking Dark",
AKA "Terminator",

5990
04:43:28,034 --> 04:43:29,586
or da-da-da-da-da.

5991
04:43:31,000 --> 04:43:34,379
The movie originally was
called "Shocking Magenta".

5992
04:43:34,379 --> 04:43:35,620
How are you gonna
translate that?

5993
04:43:35,620 --> 04:43:37,137
That doesn't work
in any language.

5994
04:43:37,137 --> 04:43:38,241
That's not the only name

5995
04:43:38,241 --> 04:43:39,793
it's called "Contaminator".

5996
04:43:39,793 --> 04:43:42,241
"The Killers of Venice Beach".

5997
04:43:42,241 --> 04:43:44,655
It has lots of names,
and that has something

5998
04:43:44,655 --> 04:43:45,965
to do with distribution.

5999
04:43:45,965 --> 04:43:49,000
Venice
before the year 2000.

6000
04:43:49,000 --> 04:43:51,620
"Shocking Dark" is a
movie where the filmmakers

6001
04:43:51,620 --> 04:43:55,034
attempt to warn
people of the hazards

6002
04:43:55,034 --> 04:43:57,206
of industrial pollution.

6003
04:43:57,206 --> 04:43:59,931
Fear fighting
against the unknown.

6004
04:44:00,862 --> 04:44:02,034
Hurry!

6005
04:44:02,034 --> 04:44:04,034
They're coming, they're
coming!

6006
04:44:04,034 --> 04:44:06,275
My character in
"Shocking Dark"

6007
04:44:06,275 --> 04:44:08,000
is Lieutenant Koster,

6008
04:44:08,000 --> 04:44:11,172
and I'm telling all
these guys what to do.

6009
04:44:11,172 --> 04:44:13,241
All right, you
bunch of pussies!

6010
04:44:13,241 --> 04:44:16,241
I'm back, and I'm kicking ass!

6011
04:44:16,241 --> 04:44:18,758
And I'm not politically
correct about it,

6012
04:44:18,758 --> 04:44:21,034
and I don't care,
but it's because

6013
04:44:21,034 --> 04:44:22,482
they're my guys.

6014
04:44:22,482 --> 04:44:23,413
Careful, baby.

6015
04:44:23,413 --> 04:44:24,896
That thing just might go off!

6016
04:44:24,896 --> 04:44:27,379
They're sending us into
the depths of Venice.

6017
04:44:27,379 --> 04:44:30,034
My impression is
they're gonna find out

6018
04:44:30,034 --> 04:44:33,172
it's a creature
from another planet.

6019
04:44:33,172 --> 04:44:35,655
I can't say that
was exactly the plot

6020
04:44:35,655 --> 04:44:37,862
when I started the movie.

6021
04:44:38,827 --> 04:44:40,448
And they're waiting for you!

6022
04:44:42,724 --> 04:44:43,655
Who are they?

6023
04:44:43,655 --> 04:44:44,862
What are you talking about?

6024
04:44:44,862 --> 04:44:46,931
It's a sandwich
that didn't even have

6025
04:44:46,931 --> 04:44:48,068
a whole loaf of bread.

6026
04:44:48,068 --> 04:44:50,275
So it starts out pumpernickel,

6027
04:44:50,275 --> 04:44:52,275
and then it ends up a brioche,

6028
04:44:52,275 --> 04:44:54,310
and then it's a slice of pizza.

6029
04:44:54,310 --> 04:44:56,793
Can't you smell
that stink of shit?

6030
04:44:59,689 --> 04:45:00,931
The creatures in
"Shocking Dark".

6031
04:45:00,931 --> 04:45:03,379
I have been told
they remind people

6032
04:45:03,379 --> 04:45:05,344
of the creature from "Alien",

6033
04:45:05,344 --> 04:45:07,103
but when I was in the movie,

6034
04:45:07,103 --> 04:45:08,586
and as the movie was told to me,

6035
04:45:08,586 --> 04:45:10,344
by the director, Bruno Mattei,

6036
04:45:10,344 --> 04:45:12,379
he intended it to be more

6037
04:45:12,379 --> 04:45:14,655
of "The Creature From
the Black Lagoon".

6038
04:45:18,517 --> 04:45:20,793
We're chemically dumping in
the waters around Venice,

6039
04:45:20,793 --> 04:45:24,620
so originally the
concept was this thing,

6040
04:45:24,620 --> 04:45:26,000
maybe it got radiated,

6041
04:45:26,000 --> 04:45:28,172
because that's what they
were kind of thinking.

6042
04:45:29,517 --> 04:45:31,275
Something wraps around my neck.

6043
04:45:34,827 --> 04:45:36,103
Go back and watch carefully.

6044
04:45:36,103 --> 04:45:37,827
So this hand is going oh, oh,

6045
04:45:37,827 --> 04:45:39,931
and this hand from
below is wrapping around

6046
04:45:39,931 --> 04:45:42,344
my own neck, and
I'm going like that.

6047
04:45:42,344 --> 04:45:44,000
So every time
somebody says to me

6048
04:45:44,000 --> 04:45:46,517
it's a ripoff of "Alien"
and "Terminator",

6049
04:45:46,517 --> 04:45:48,931
I go not if you're
holding the rubber mask

6050
04:45:48,931 --> 04:45:50,379
with your own hand

6051
04:45:54,413 --> 04:45:56,137
"Shocking Dark" is
such a shameless ripoff

6052
04:45:56,137 --> 04:45:57,965
of so many other things
that it was legally not

6053
04:45:57,965 --> 04:46:00,689
able to be released in
the States for many years.

6054
04:46:03,689 --> 04:46:05,586
This is the end of the line.

6055
04:46:05,586 --> 04:46:07,034
You look at movies by guys

6056
04:46:07,034 --> 04:46:08,310
like Bruno Mattei,
and you think it was

6057
04:46:08,310 --> 04:46:10,724
probably a pretty
good party onset.

6058
04:46:10,724 --> 04:46:12,413
End of the line.

6059
04:46:12,413 --> 04:46:13,724
Maybe as long as the
filmmakers are having

6060
04:46:13,724 --> 04:46:15,172
a great time, you
hope it bleeds through

6061
04:46:15,172 --> 04:46:16,689
to the screen.

6062
04:46:22,413 --> 04:46:25,896
Bruno Mattei was by
no means kidding himself

6063
04:46:25,896 --> 04:46:28,413
of where he was in
the film industry.

6064
04:46:28,413 --> 04:46:30,275
And he's in on the joke.

6065
04:46:36,344 --> 04:46:38,344
I worked on two movies with him,

6066
04:46:38,344 --> 04:46:40,551
and he was always
up against a budget,

6067
04:46:40,551 --> 04:46:42,413
and he never took it badly,

6068
04:46:42,413 --> 04:46:44,655
he was never in a bad mood,

6069
04:46:44,655 --> 04:46:46,068
and he was a lot of fun.

6070
04:46:46,068 --> 04:46:46,931
I miss him.

6071
04:46:46,931 --> 04:46:48,206
I miss him a great deal.

6072
04:46:54,103 --> 04:46:57,793
A new film
by Alejandro Jodorowsky.

6073
04:46:57,793 --> 04:46:59,310
"Santa Sangre".

6074
04:47:01,448 --> 04:47:05,379
"Santa Sangre" is a
Felini-esque kind of nightmare

6075
04:47:05,379 --> 04:47:09,310
from the perverted mind
of Alejandro Jodorowsky.

6076
04:47:09,310 --> 04:47:12,103
It's just saturated with blood,

6077
04:47:12,103 --> 04:47:16,724
circus carnage, crazy
cults, skin, surrealism,

6078
04:47:16,724 --> 04:47:19,000
and enough symbolism to
send you to a shrink.

6079
04:47:24,724 --> 04:47:26,034
Now you're a man.

6080
04:47:26,034 --> 04:47:28,965
It is an absolute masterpiece.

6081
04:47:28,965 --> 04:47:32,689
Jodorowsky, he was approached
by Dario Argento's brother,

6082
04:47:32,689 --> 04:47:34,724
Claudio, to make a movie.

6083
04:47:34,724 --> 04:47:36,620
It was essentially,
I need you to make

6084
04:47:36,620 --> 04:47:39,689
a Dario Argento movie, but
by Alejandro Jodorowsky.

6085
04:47:39,689 --> 04:47:42,827
Well, he ended up
taking it way further

6086
04:47:42,827 --> 04:47:44,000
into the direction
of Jodorowsky,

6087
04:47:44,000 --> 04:47:46,241
and making something
entirely unique.

6088
04:47:48,344 --> 04:47:50,689
Sure, it's painted
in a horror movie,

6089
04:47:50,689 --> 04:47:52,379
but it's a coming of age story

6090
04:47:52,379 --> 04:47:56,275
about a boy growing up in
a circus freak setting,

6091
04:47:57,482 --> 04:47:59,724
that really shows the
streets of Mexico City

6092
04:47:59,724 --> 04:48:01,241
in a different light.

6093
04:48:01,241 --> 04:48:03,137
There's something so special
about all these characters,

6094
04:48:03,137 --> 04:48:05,586
being in makeup, being
in their costumes,

6095
04:48:05,586 --> 04:48:08,206
and that's how they are
every day of their lives,

6096
04:48:08,206 --> 04:48:10,517
and actually also
something very sad

6097
04:48:10,517 --> 04:48:11,965
about that, too.

6098
04:48:18,310 --> 04:48:20,241
That that is the identity
of these characters.

6099
04:48:20,241 --> 04:48:22,896
That is the way that
people see them as,

6100
04:48:22,896 --> 04:48:26,655
as clowns, as
performers, as freaks.

6101
04:48:28,482 --> 04:48:30,137
It just shows such a truth,

6102
04:48:30,137 --> 04:48:32,517
not just in Mexico,
but it shows a truth

6103
04:48:32,517 --> 04:48:34,482
of how easy we are judgmental.

6104
04:48:36,862 --> 04:48:38,931
There's so many
scenes in that film

6105
04:48:38,931 --> 04:48:41,172
I did not expect to
continue to escalate,

6106
04:48:41,172 --> 04:48:42,862
to go oh my god!

6107
04:48:42,862 --> 04:48:43,689
Oh my god!

6108
04:48:43,689 --> 04:48:45,241
Ugh!

6109
04:48:46,482 --> 04:48:48,241
The dad, the owner
of this circus,

6110
04:48:48,241 --> 04:48:51,000
just has an affair,
spoiler alert,

6111
04:48:51,000 --> 04:48:53,137
cuts this woman's arms off,

6112
04:48:53,137 --> 04:48:54,793
and it's like what the!

6113
04:48:54,793 --> 04:48:56,758
It's insane!

6114
04:48:58,758 --> 04:49:00,517
The wonderful
character of Conchita,

6115
04:49:00,517 --> 04:49:02,241
and you just see how her arms

6116
04:49:02,241 --> 04:49:03,758
get completely cut off,

6117
04:49:03,758 --> 04:49:05,551
blood pouring out of her arms,

6118
04:49:05,551 --> 04:49:08,413
and how she's just
looking at the sky, at us.

6119
04:49:10,551 --> 04:49:12,068
The one-two punch
of attacking them

6120
04:49:12,068 --> 04:49:14,172
during sex and
throwing acid on them,

6121
04:49:14,172 --> 04:49:17,000
and then getting both
of her arms chopped off,

6122
04:49:17,000 --> 04:49:19,206
with beautiful
Simon Boswell music

6123
04:49:19,206 --> 04:49:20,172
playing in the background.

6124
04:49:20,172 --> 04:49:22,344
That's hard to equal in cinema,

6125
04:49:22,344 --> 04:49:24,034
let alone in this movie.

6126
04:49:28,965 --> 04:49:30,000
And from that point on,

6127
04:49:30,000 --> 04:49:32,551
to see our main character

6128
04:49:32,551 --> 04:49:36,448
trying to find acceptance,
love, and freedom

6129
04:49:36,448 --> 04:49:40,344
of his own demons,
how he now is trapped

6130
04:49:40,344 --> 04:49:42,620
to be his own mother's arms,

6131
04:49:42,620 --> 04:49:44,896
speaks to such a sadness,

6132
04:49:44,896 --> 04:49:47,103
and such a truth
of manipulation.

6133
04:49:47,103 --> 04:49:49,448
It just completely
breaks my heart,

6134
04:49:50,413 --> 04:49:52,275
and grosses me out

6135
04:49:56,862 --> 04:49:58,413
"Santa Sangre" was
not afraid to talk

6136
04:49:58,413 --> 04:50:00,724
about the problems of machismo,

6137
04:50:00,724 --> 04:50:04,758
the class system, and just
the difference in cultures

6138
04:50:04,758 --> 04:50:06,965
with the Americanos
and the Mexicans,

6139
04:50:06,965 --> 04:50:08,172
and all from the point of view

6140
04:50:08,172 --> 04:50:09,448
of an innocent child.

6141
04:50:09,448 --> 04:50:11,655
That corruption,
that manipulation,

6142
04:50:11,655 --> 04:50:14,724
how sex and violence can
really, really change

6143
04:50:14,724 --> 04:50:18,379
a child's life, that
movie is true horror.

6144
04:50:36,793 --> 04:50:38,655
For "Fright Night",
I had no sense

6145
04:50:38,655 --> 04:50:40,241
of what is was going to become.

6146
04:50:40,241 --> 04:50:42,655
I thought it was a fun movie,

6147
04:50:42,655 --> 04:50:43,965
it was creative,
and it was gonna be

6148
04:50:43,965 --> 04:50:46,448
a little bitty horror
movie for that summer.

6149
04:50:46,448 --> 04:50:49,862
Really special experience, and
the longer I'm away from it,

6150
04:50:49,862 --> 04:50:52,379
the more I realize that.

6151
04:50:53,620 --> 04:50:54,862
"Fright Night 2".

6152
04:50:54,862 --> 04:50:56,275
♪ Take me baby

6153
04:50:59,000 --> 04:51:00,827
"Fright Night 2",
Tommy Lee Wallace

6154
04:51:00,827 --> 04:51:02,206
did a terrific job.

6155
04:51:02,206 --> 04:51:03,655
I wasn't available.

6156
04:51:03,655 --> 04:51:06,620
Instead I did "Fatal Beauty"
with Whoopi Goldberg.

6157
04:51:06,620 --> 04:51:08,551
I should have done
"Fright Night 2".

6158
04:51:10,137 --> 04:51:11,827
Johnny.

6159
04:51:11,827 --> 04:51:13,379
Peter.

6160
04:51:13,379 --> 04:51:14,413
It's happening again.

6161
04:51:16,068 --> 04:51:19,137
"Fright Night 2" was
really more about the modern

6162
04:51:19,137 --> 04:51:21,000
80s age, when people
were really starting

6163
04:51:21,000 --> 04:51:25,689
to experiment and to be curious
about cultures and people.

6164
04:51:25,689 --> 04:51:29,379
I give you the new host
of Fright Night, Regine!

6165
04:51:31,793 --> 04:51:33,310
From Regine's point of view,

6166
04:51:33,310 --> 04:51:37,068
my only brother, the love
of my life, was murdered.

6167
04:51:40,137 --> 04:51:42,551
And I am 2000 years old.

6168
04:51:43,413 --> 04:51:44,206
Uh, come in.

6169
04:51:45,137 --> 04:51:46,068
Thanks.

6170
04:51:46,068 --> 04:51:48,793
I find Charlie Brewster,

6171
04:51:48,793 --> 04:51:52,586
and I play with him like a
cat playing with a mouse.

6172
04:51:54,000 --> 04:51:58,310
Julie as Regine was breaking
the glass ceiling in a way.

6173
04:51:58,310 --> 04:51:59,413
This is not a dream.

6174
04:52:01,862 --> 04:52:05,655
"Fright Night Part 2"
is a lot about inverting

6175
04:52:05,655 --> 04:52:08,965
the sexual and
gender stereotypes

6176
04:52:08,965 --> 04:52:12,827
that had traditionally been
part of the vampire genre.

6177
04:52:12,827 --> 04:52:15,517
She was taking ownership
of lust and power

6178
04:52:15,517 --> 04:52:18,896
and hunger and
all of that stuff,

6179
04:52:18,896 --> 04:52:20,758
and she feminized it.

6180
04:52:25,241 --> 04:52:29,793
I think Regine is empowering
for women in general,

6181
04:52:29,793 --> 04:52:31,862
and for Latinas.

6182
04:52:31,862 --> 04:52:36,862
There's an eroticism that is
beyond gender identification.

6183
04:52:38,275 --> 04:52:42,586
Regine Dandridge, it was very
open to love and sensuality.

6184
04:52:47,793 --> 04:52:52,034
She's not just a stark,
startling character.

6185
04:52:52,034 --> 04:52:56,379
She's cushy, and
warm, and you know.

6186
04:52:58,034 --> 04:53:00,310
Is it hot in here?

6187
04:53:04,206 --> 04:53:06,103
You'll have to get
closer than that.

6188
04:53:06,103 --> 04:53:10,310
Peter Vincent was Roddy
McDowall's love letter

6189
04:53:10,310 --> 04:53:13,620
to the vampire
hunters of the past.

6190
04:53:13,620 --> 04:53:15,551
Peter Cushing, Vincent Price.

6191
04:53:17,379 --> 04:53:18,758
Roddy was a photographer,

6192
04:53:18,758 --> 04:53:20,793
so he was always
taking pictures.

6193
04:53:20,793 --> 04:53:23,379
He was into documenting stuff.

6194
04:53:23,379 --> 04:53:27,172
Encyclopedia of movie history.

6195
04:53:27,172 --> 04:53:30,000
He knew where the
bodies were buried.

6196
04:53:30,000 --> 04:53:34,103
I kill vampires.

6197
04:53:34,103 --> 04:53:35,517
It was a different movie,

6198
04:53:35,517 --> 04:53:37,827
it was like an army
of ghouls and vampires

6199
04:53:37,827 --> 04:53:40,931
and creatures that we
were up against this time.

6200
04:53:42,689 --> 04:53:45,000
Russel Clark played Belle,

6201
04:53:45,000 --> 04:53:47,344
a wraith-like vampire
on roller skates.

6202
04:53:49,241 --> 04:53:52,068
Those three characters,
Jonathan Gries,

6203
04:53:52,068 --> 04:53:54,310
Brian Thompson, and Russel,

6204
04:53:54,310 --> 04:53:57,586
they're all so
distinctive and unique

6205
04:53:57,586 --> 04:54:00,413
in the characters that
they came up with.

6206
04:54:02,586 --> 04:54:05,448
I have an entourage
of fabulous men.

6207
04:54:08,517 --> 04:54:11,793
Russel Clarke, he had
choreographed Michael Jackson,

6208
04:54:11,793 --> 04:54:15,172
and Brian Thompson
came up with the naming

6209
04:54:15,172 --> 04:54:19,241
all of these bugs with
their Latin names.

6210
04:54:26,000 --> 04:54:29,448
There's just a scholarliness
to this foursome.

6211
04:54:31,172 --> 04:54:33,000
Are you thirsty, Charlie?

6212
04:54:34,448 --> 04:54:37,551
Once I started
transitioning into a vampire,

6213
04:54:37,551 --> 04:54:39,482
I enjoyed getting to fang up

6214
04:54:39,482 --> 04:54:42,137
and get pasty, and
all that stuff.

6215
04:54:42,137 --> 04:54:44,137
I had my Christmas
cards that year

6216
04:54:44,137 --> 04:54:49,137
were me in a vampire, sort
of holiday vampire theme.

6217
04:54:50,793 --> 04:54:52,931
"Fright Night 2"
resonates with people,

6218
04:54:52,931 --> 04:54:54,310
there's something
for everyone in it.

6219
04:54:54,310 --> 04:54:56,896
And everyone's kind of
represented, especially today.

6220
04:54:56,896 --> 04:54:59,275
You notice if someone's
not represented now.

6221
04:55:00,413 --> 04:55:02,724
It shocked people
that somebody

6222
04:55:02,724 --> 04:55:05,206
would break the rules
as much as we did,

6223
04:55:05,206 --> 04:55:08,310
even though it made more
money at the box office

6224
04:55:08,310 --> 04:55:11,206
than anything else that
opened that weekend,

6225
04:55:11,206 --> 04:55:14,172
I think the whole distribution
went into a tailspin,

6226
04:55:14,172 --> 04:55:17,103
and then you could
hardly find it on VHS,

6227
04:55:17,103 --> 04:55:19,034
but people have unearthed it,

6228
04:55:19,034 --> 04:55:20,793
literally dug it
up from the grave,

6229
04:55:20,793 --> 04:55:22,655
so I'm very grateful
to the people

6230
04:55:22,655 --> 04:55:25,482
who've done that, because
Regine was really fun.

6231
04:55:26,413 --> 04:55:28,448
Welcome to Fright Night.

6232
04:55:34,241 --> 04:55:35,896
I have such a specific memory

6233
04:55:35,896 --> 04:55:39,931
of begging my dad to take
me to see "Relentless"

6234
04:55:39,931 --> 04:55:41,379
when I was too young to see it.

6235
04:55:41,379 --> 04:55:42,655
I was probably 12.

6236
04:55:42,655 --> 04:55:45,275
Judd
Nelson is Buck Taylor.

6237
04:55:45,275 --> 04:55:48,137
And Buck Taylor is "Relentless".

6238
04:55:49,827 --> 04:55:52,758
This was a Hollywood
maniac slasher,

6239
04:55:52,758 --> 04:55:55,000
so it was a well-produced film.

6240
04:56:00,896 --> 04:56:04,034
Cops chasing a serial
killer in Los Angeles.

6241
04:56:04,034 --> 04:56:05,758
Well, who the fuck killed him?

6242
04:56:05,758 --> 04:56:06,586
Well how the fuck do I know?

6243
04:56:06,586 --> 04:56:07,586
It's my first day.

6244
04:56:07,586 --> 04:56:09,620
Judd Nelson is the product

6245
04:56:09,620 --> 04:56:12,655
of an abusive relationship
with his father,

6246
04:56:12,655 --> 04:56:17,620
who was a police officer, who
he both feared and idolized,

6247
04:56:17,620 --> 04:56:20,310
when he couldn't live
up to his father's ideal

6248
04:56:20,310 --> 04:56:22,413
to also become a police officer,

6249
04:56:22,413 --> 04:56:26,103
he decides he's going to
go out and kill people

6250
04:56:26,103 --> 04:56:27,827
with his father's name.

6251
04:56:30,344 --> 04:56:32,931
Leo Rossi and Robert Loggia,

6252
04:56:32,931 --> 04:56:34,724
they are investigating it.

6253
04:56:34,724 --> 04:56:36,000
Read this.

6254
04:56:36,000 --> 04:56:37,586
No clues, no nothing.

6255
04:56:37,586 --> 04:56:39,000
What is it?

6256
04:56:39,000 --> 04:56:40,413
The asshole left it.

6257
04:56:40,413 --> 04:56:42,517
John had seen "Maniac",
and really liked it,

6258
04:56:42,517 --> 04:56:45,310
and came aboard wanting
to play the role.

6259
04:56:47,655 --> 04:56:49,344
For me stylistically,

6260
04:56:49,344 --> 04:56:53,344
it was my Dario Argento
film in daylight.

6261
04:56:55,827 --> 04:56:57,862
What really messed me
up too with that film

6262
04:56:57,862 --> 04:56:59,172
is there's a pretty brutal

6263
04:56:59,172 --> 04:57:02,551
piano wire
strangulation sequence.

6264
04:57:06,034 --> 04:57:08,482
It was intense for
me to watch as a kid.

6265
04:57:08,482 --> 04:57:09,482
Isn't that better?

6266
04:57:11,206 --> 04:57:13,172
I like the scene
where Judd is running

6267
04:57:13,172 --> 04:57:14,206
on the rooftop.

6268
04:57:14,206 --> 04:57:15,344
We did a little trick there.

6269
04:57:15,344 --> 04:57:16,896
We used a Louma crane,

6270
04:57:16,896 --> 04:57:18,448
and when he's
hidden, the stunt guy

6271
04:57:18,448 --> 04:57:19,896
comes out the other end,

6272
04:57:19,896 --> 04:57:23,000
and we tried to make it
as seamless as possible.

6273
04:57:24,241 --> 04:57:27,448
There was a moment that
was cut from the script

6274
04:57:27,448 --> 04:57:29,862
that I really wish I had shot.

6275
04:57:29,862 --> 04:57:33,275
The scene that I had stolen
from a Japanese movie

6276
04:57:33,275 --> 04:57:35,344
called "Vengeance is Mine".

6277
04:57:35,344 --> 04:57:38,241
Coming down the street
was a patrol car,

6278
04:57:38,241 --> 04:57:40,068
and Judd looks
down at his hands,

6279
04:57:40,068 --> 04:57:41,551
and there's blood on his hands,

6280
04:57:41,551 --> 04:57:44,413
so he goes in the bushes,
and pees on his hands

6281
04:57:44,413 --> 04:57:46,034
to wash the blood off of them.

6282
04:57:47,862 --> 04:57:49,068
And I thought, wow.

6283
04:57:49,068 --> 04:57:51,241
That would really say a
lot about a character.

6284
04:57:51,241 --> 04:57:52,482
It might have been
a bit too much

6285
04:57:52,482 --> 04:57:54,241
for mainstream audience.

6286
04:57:58,000 --> 04:57:59,896
It's all right.

6287
04:57:59,896 --> 04:58:01,827
I had a great time
with Judd Nelson.

6288
04:58:01,827 --> 04:58:03,379
Always joking around.

6289
04:58:03,379 --> 04:58:05,655
All the actors, all sweethearts.

6290
04:58:05,655 --> 04:58:08,103
It was a wonderful
experience on that film.

6291
04:58:08,103 --> 04:58:09,586
Yo brothers, what's up?

6292
04:58:09,586 --> 04:58:11,000
I had no interference.

6293
04:58:11,000 --> 04:58:13,344
Everything that's in
"Relentless" is mine,

6294
04:58:13,344 --> 04:58:15,000
for better or worse,
it was the way

6295
04:58:15,000 --> 04:58:17,172
I made the film, and
I'm quite proud of it.

6296
04:58:17,172 --> 04:58:18,620
I think it came out okay.

6297
04:58:18,620 --> 04:58:19,448
Please.

6298
04:58:20,827 --> 04:58:21,793
Don't hurt my son.

6299
04:58:23,724 --> 04:58:25,172
But it feels dated to me.

6300
04:58:25,172 --> 04:58:28,344
First is "Maniac Cop",
which was made before that

6301
04:58:28,344 --> 04:58:30,034
doesn't feel dated to me.

6302
04:58:30,034 --> 04:58:31,413
Go figure.

6303
04:58:32,413 --> 04:58:33,310
Oh my god!

6304
04:58:43,655 --> 04:58:45,344
William Hickey as

6305
04:58:46,965 --> 04:58:48,758
"The Puppet Master".

6306
04:58:48,758 --> 04:58:52,862
One of my favorite franchises
is "The Puppet Master".

6307
04:58:52,862 --> 04:58:55,448
And the first one was
just so perfect to me.

6308
04:58:55,448 --> 04:58:57,482
And now they have 80 of them.

6309
04:58:57,482 --> 04:58:58,827
Every single one, I want.

6310
04:59:00,586 --> 04:59:03,655
It had Blade, Tunneler, Jester,

6311
04:59:03,655 --> 04:59:07,137
with his weird face
stuff, and Leech Girl,

6312
04:59:07,137 --> 04:59:10,655
and lots, and lots, and
lots of creepy ass puppets.

6313
04:59:12,034 --> 04:59:14,310
I have all those
puppets as action figures.

6314
04:59:14,310 --> 04:59:16,586
They're some of my favorite
collectibles to this day.

6315
04:59:16,586 --> 04:59:19,758
I just wanted to see the
puppets fucking kill people.

6316
04:59:24,689 --> 04:59:28,206
You pair that with just
this weird fucking story

6317
04:59:28,206 --> 04:59:31,827
about an undead dude who
just wanted to get his,

6318
04:59:31,827 --> 04:59:35,758
gets his rivals together to
kill them off one by one.

6319
04:59:35,758 --> 04:59:38,448
And using the old techniques
of the old Puppet Master,

6320
04:59:38,448 --> 04:59:40,896
I brought myself back to life.

6321
04:59:40,896 --> 04:59:41,827
Why?

6322
04:59:41,827 --> 04:59:43,827
I want to live forever.

6323
04:59:43,827 --> 04:59:46,517
That is a piece of art
that came to life as a movie.

6324
04:59:50,137 --> 04:59:51,896
Yeah, I'm a stop motion freak.

6325
04:59:51,896 --> 04:59:54,241
Dave Allen helped shape
shift those characters

6326
04:59:54,241 --> 04:59:56,724
into what they are
now, and gave them some

6327
04:59:56,724 --> 04:59:59,793
historical context, because
it takes place in the 40s.

6328
05:00:01,137 --> 05:00:04,034
And next thing you know,
we morph into a script,

6329
05:00:04,034 --> 05:00:06,724
and David Schmoeller did a
great job with the script.

6330
05:00:12,241 --> 05:00:15,000
Charlie Band, he would give
me a lot of creative freedom.

6331
05:00:15,000 --> 05:00:17,689
It's real easy to
write these things.

6332
05:00:17,689 --> 05:00:19,862
You hope that this
is gonna work.

6333
05:00:19,862 --> 05:00:21,379
It goes from effect to effect.

6334
05:00:21,379 --> 05:00:22,793
I mean, some of them work great,

6335
05:00:22,793 --> 05:00:25,620
and some of them are
really stretches, you know.

6336
05:00:30,344 --> 05:00:31,827
You fucker!

6337
05:00:31,827 --> 05:00:33,620
I thought I
could create magic,

6338
05:00:33,620 --> 05:00:36,586
and these really great
things would happen.

6339
05:00:38,793 --> 05:00:40,344
These little dolls,
they would find

6340
05:00:40,344 --> 05:00:44,931
all these sadistic ways
to murder human beings.

6341
05:00:44,931 --> 05:00:48,724
It was diabolical.

6342
05:00:48,724 --> 05:00:51,551
Leech Woman, Lord
she looks so cute

6343
05:00:51,551 --> 05:00:53,655
and pretty but then

6344
05:00:53,655 --> 05:00:55,827
and this nasty ass leech,

6345
05:00:55,827 --> 05:00:57,793
and it's just, no, why?

6346
05:01:01,620 --> 05:01:03,551
We actually used leeches.

6347
05:01:06,034 --> 05:01:08,758
The puppet with the
tiniest little head,

6348
05:01:08,758 --> 05:01:13,000
and massive baby hands, just
beating the crap out of people.

6349
05:01:16,103 --> 05:01:18,896
You're taking
inanimate objects

6350
05:01:18,896 --> 05:01:21,586
and turning them
into real things.

6351
05:01:28,758 --> 05:01:30,172
We would talk about
it, and he would go off

6352
05:01:30,172 --> 05:01:33,655
and execute whatever
I needed to have

6353
05:01:33,655 --> 05:01:35,482
these puppets doing.

6354
05:01:35,482 --> 05:01:37,137
There would always
be some surprise

6355
05:01:37,137 --> 05:01:40,137
that was better than
what we had talked about.

6356
05:01:40,137 --> 05:01:43,482
Low budget filmmaking
is an art in itself.

6357
05:01:43,482 --> 05:01:45,172
It's such a crapshoot.

6358
05:01:45,172 --> 05:01:46,758
What's happening, Alice?

6359
05:01:46,758 --> 05:01:49,413
You're making
movies for no money,

6360
05:01:49,413 --> 05:01:53,310
and then you're expecting
a studio to pick it up.

6361
05:01:56,896 --> 05:01:59,103
The fact that
Paramount released it

6362
05:01:59,103 --> 05:02:01,103
gave it a lot of cache.

6363
05:02:01,103 --> 05:02:04,034
Gave it a lot of credibility.

6364
05:02:04,034 --> 05:02:06,758
What the hell
are you looking at?

6365
05:02:10,068 --> 05:02:12,827
The original idea
of these characters

6366
05:02:12,827 --> 05:02:14,655
that all start off a
little differently,

6367
05:02:14,655 --> 05:02:17,620
helped my business, my
life, and my creativity.

6368
05:02:20,448 --> 05:02:22,172
We're about to shoot
our 13th Puppet Master

6369
05:02:22,172 --> 05:02:23,827
32 years later.

6370
05:02:29,896 --> 05:02:31,655
"The Black Cat".

6371
05:02:31,655 --> 05:02:33,965
The last word in terror.

6372
05:02:36,344 --> 05:02:38,896
"The Black Cat", Luigi Cozzi,

6373
05:02:38,896 --> 05:02:42,551
or Lewis Coates, as
he's known in America.

6374
05:02:43,758 --> 05:02:44,758
Black
Cat, 1A, take one.

6375
05:02:45,689 --> 05:02:47,103
My lovely Luigi, who directed

6376
05:02:47,103 --> 05:02:50,724
and kind of created
"Stellar Star Star Crash".

6377
05:02:50,724 --> 05:02:51,965
It was his baby.

6378
05:02:51,965 --> 05:02:54,344
He wanted to do this
one for quite some time.

6379
05:02:54,344 --> 05:02:57,172
Well, we've already got
the storyline blocked out,

6380
05:02:57,172 --> 05:02:58,724
but before we get down to
writing the screenplay,

6381
05:02:58,724 --> 05:03:01,620
we'd like some pointers
about reincarnation.

6382
05:03:01,620 --> 05:03:03,724
I read the script, and I
thought yeah, it's interesting.

6383
05:03:03,724 --> 05:03:04,551
It's different.

6384
05:03:04,551 --> 05:03:06,068
Don't use that name.

6385
05:03:06,068 --> 05:03:07,344
Change it at once.

6386
05:03:07,344 --> 05:03:08,413
What name, Levana?

6387
05:03:08,413 --> 05:03:09,655
Yes.

6388
05:03:09,655 --> 05:03:11,206
Don't take the risk
of summoning her.

6389
05:03:12,379 --> 05:03:14,896
Dario Argento
had a hand in it.

6390
05:03:14,896 --> 05:03:18,344
Dario Argento
directed it, "Suspiria",

6391
05:03:18,344 --> 05:03:20,862
and I must admit, it
was very, very good.

6392
05:03:20,862 --> 05:03:23,068
Luigi worked very
closely with Dario.

6393
05:03:23,068 --> 05:03:24,620
It was shot in Italy.

6394
05:03:24,620 --> 05:03:27,448
Not a lot of plot, but
beautiful to look at.

6395
05:03:27,448 --> 05:03:29,965
Great performances
from the actors.

6396
05:03:29,965 --> 05:03:31,206
They were all European.

6397
05:03:31,206 --> 05:03:33,689
I think I was the only
English person in it.

6398
05:03:33,689 --> 05:03:37,172
We had a wonderful prince
called Urbano Barberini

6399
05:03:37,172 --> 05:03:39,344
who was in it, and then
you had Florence Guerin,

6400
05:03:39,344 --> 05:03:41,206
who was wonderful in the film.

6401
05:03:41,206 --> 05:03:42,758
She was fantastic.

6402
05:03:46,655 --> 05:03:49,206
You can never leave!

6403
05:03:49,206 --> 05:03:51,310
You'll never be
Levana the witch!

6404
05:03:51,310 --> 05:03:52,517
Never, never!

6405
05:03:52,517 --> 05:03:56,000
She was an actress,
I was an actress.

6406
05:03:59,000 --> 05:03:59,965
Cut.

6407
05:03:59,965 --> 05:04:01,413
Florence was the nice one.

6408
05:04:01,413 --> 05:04:04,068
I was just a bitch, I would
say, really, basically.

6409
05:04:04,068 --> 05:04:05,310
Sorry.

6410
05:04:05,310 --> 05:04:06,724
So I have your
permission to, uh,

6411
05:04:08,448 --> 05:04:09,620
put it to him?

6412
05:04:12,137 --> 05:04:12,965
But it was good
character for me.

6413
05:04:12,965 --> 05:04:14,137
I liked it.

6414
05:04:14,137 --> 05:04:16,689
Quite dark, and she was
all out for herself.

6415
05:04:16,689 --> 05:04:19,448
Everything was
about her, really.

6416
05:04:19,448 --> 05:04:22,517
She was very jealous of
Florence and the husband.

6417
05:04:22,517 --> 05:04:24,275
Why in god's
name did you do it?

6418
05:04:25,862 --> 05:04:28,551
The same reason I took
Mark away from you, Anne.

6419
05:04:28,551 --> 05:04:30,000
For Levana.

6420
05:04:30,000 --> 05:04:31,862
My character was capable
of anything, really.

6421
05:04:31,862 --> 05:04:33,655
I liked that concept.

6422
05:04:33,655 --> 05:04:34,862
What is your command?

6423
05:04:34,862 --> 05:04:36,689
I ordered you to stop Anne.

6424
05:04:37,655 --> 05:04:39,551
It rolled along nicely.

6425
05:04:39,551 --> 05:04:41,275
Maybe not the best dialogue.

6426
05:04:41,275 --> 05:04:44,000
And you know
what you must do with it.

6427
05:04:45,172 --> 05:04:47,103
The baby's in the other room.

6428
05:04:47,103 --> 05:04:48,517
Some of the scenes
were quite heavy

6429
05:04:48,517 --> 05:04:49,724
with the special effects.

6430
05:04:49,724 --> 05:04:51,241
Very bloody.

6431
05:04:53,344 --> 05:04:54,827
It is a bit weird, isn't it?

6432
05:04:56,965 --> 05:04:58,448
They're quite gruesome effects.

6433
05:04:58,448 --> 05:05:01,000
Looking back on it, they
were really, really good.

6434
05:05:13,172 --> 05:05:15,034
The Spanish title
for "Grave Robbers"

6435
05:05:15,034 --> 05:05:16,862
is "Ladrones De Tumbas".

6436
05:05:18,586 --> 05:05:20,689
There's a lot of
satanic rituals,

6437
05:05:20,689 --> 05:05:22,758
and a lot of killings.

6438
05:05:25,000 --> 05:05:28,793
A guy is persecuted
by the Inquisition,

6439
05:05:28,793 --> 05:05:31,931
and he's tortured, and murdered,

6440
05:05:31,931 --> 05:05:35,000
and he promises to
return for vengeance.

6441
05:05:43,000 --> 05:05:46,379
Our main characters, they
go to the cemeteries,

6442
05:05:46,379 --> 05:05:49,068
dig up the graves,
extract the bodies,

6443
05:05:49,068 --> 05:05:51,965
look for gold and
valuable things,

6444
05:05:51,965 --> 05:05:54,827
and they sell them
in the black market.

6445
05:05:56,724 --> 05:05:59,551
They go through a
tunnel into the dungeons

6446
05:05:59,551 --> 05:06:01,103
of this old hacienda.

6447
05:06:03,310 --> 05:06:05,241
And strange things
start happening.

6448
05:06:13,379 --> 05:06:15,344
By the time we shot
"Grave Robbers",

6449
05:06:15,344 --> 05:06:18,586
I was a big expert
in prosthetics

6450
05:06:18,586 --> 05:06:21,000
and special effects,
cinematography.

6451
05:06:21,000 --> 05:06:22,655
I had learned a lot.

6452
05:06:25,827 --> 05:06:26,965
We didn't shoot it in English.

6453
05:06:26,965 --> 05:06:28,862
We shot it in Spanish.

6454
05:06:28,862 --> 05:06:30,931
We shot that film
in Valle de Bravo.

6455
05:06:30,931 --> 05:06:33,758
It's about an hour and
a half from Mexico City.

6456
05:06:33,758 --> 05:06:34,793
It's in the mountains.

6457
05:06:34,793 --> 05:06:36,965
There's woods all over.

6458
05:06:41,172 --> 05:06:43,689
One girl is kidnapped.

6459
05:06:45,103 --> 05:06:48,758
And the policemen go
inside the dungeons,

6460
05:06:48,758 --> 05:06:52,206
and he finds his daughter
tied up to the floor.

6461
05:06:52,206 --> 05:06:53,448
The demon walks in

6462
05:06:53,448 --> 05:06:56,068
and they engage in a fight.

6463
05:07:00,206 --> 05:07:02,793
When our hero comes in
and saves the policeman

6464
05:07:02,793 --> 05:07:04,655
and saves the girl.

6465
05:07:04,655 --> 05:07:06,586
That's a memorable scene.

6466
05:07:10,344 --> 05:07:14,586
It had known actors for
the domestic market.

6467
05:07:14,586 --> 05:07:16,965
It was aimed for
the right target,

6468
05:07:16,965 --> 05:07:19,551
and it was a very big
success in Mexico,

6469
05:07:19,551 --> 05:07:22,586
and then a big success
when the video clubs

6470
05:07:22,586 --> 05:07:23,896
started renting it out.

6471
05:07:25,724 --> 05:07:26,931
No!

6472
05:07:26,931 --> 05:07:30,655
I wasn't aware
how this film became

6473
05:07:30,655 --> 05:07:33,517
part of the cult
1980s horror films,

6474
05:07:33,517 --> 05:07:36,000
because my career has gone on.

6475
05:07:36,000 --> 05:07:38,586
I'm mostly known
in Mexico for being

6476
05:07:38,586 --> 05:07:41,241
a reality show producer.

6477
05:07:42,448 --> 05:07:44,586
I'm proud of them
because they were done

6478
05:07:44,586 --> 05:07:46,482
with no money, with no time,

6479
05:07:46,482 --> 05:07:48,689
with no technical resources.

6480
05:07:49,620 --> 05:07:51,586
I was in the process of learning

6481
05:07:51,586 --> 05:07:53,758
how to become a filmmaker.

6482
05:07:53,758 --> 05:07:56,793
We were just kids having fun.

6483
05:08:08,137 --> 05:08:11,172
I have no idea why
people romanticize films

6484
05:08:11,172 --> 05:08:13,862
simply because they
were made in the 80s.

6485
05:08:13,862 --> 05:08:15,103
Hi.

6486
05:08:15,103 --> 05:08:17,586
But because they
were made in the 80s,

6487
05:08:17,586 --> 05:08:20,172
they develop a cult reputation.

6488
05:08:23,137 --> 05:08:25,793
I'm really thrilled
that audiences now

6489
05:08:25,793 --> 05:08:27,482
really appreciate this stuff,

6490
05:08:27,482 --> 05:08:29,793
that back in the 80s,
people were just like,

6491
05:08:29,793 --> 05:08:31,655
nah, you know, whatever.

6492
05:08:31,655 --> 05:08:33,896
Now there's a whole
new renaissance,

6493
05:08:33,896 --> 05:08:36,620
if you will, and people are
really getting into them,

6494
05:08:36,620 --> 05:08:38,413
and really loving
them, and giving them

6495
05:08:38,413 --> 05:08:40,551
the kudos that they deserve.

6496
05:08:40,551 --> 05:08:42,551
They have a life today
that's not the same

6497
05:08:42,551 --> 05:08:43,965
as their life in the 80s,

6498
05:08:43,965 --> 05:08:46,413
but let's get real
about, you know

6499
05:08:46,413 --> 05:08:49,000
Orson Welles didn't
make any of these films.

6500
05:08:50,379 --> 05:08:52,206
We need to reframe
the way that we look

6501
05:08:52,206 --> 05:08:54,482
at good and bad movies.

6502
05:08:56,137 --> 05:08:57,931
Bad movies can be enjoyable.

6503
05:08:57,931 --> 05:08:59,724
You can find a different
way to look at it.

6504
05:08:59,724 --> 05:09:02,034
I mean, no one's setting
out to make a bad movie.

6505
05:09:05,275 --> 05:09:07,482
It doesn't really
matter how great

6506
05:09:07,482 --> 05:09:09,620
or not great these movies were,

6507
05:09:09,620 --> 05:09:11,034
it's important to remember

6508
05:09:11,034 --> 05:09:14,862
how the cast, the
crew, the producers,

6509
05:09:14,862 --> 05:09:17,620
the director, put all
their love and energy

6510
05:09:17,620 --> 05:09:20,551
and money into
these various films,

6511
05:09:20,551 --> 05:09:22,965
and really made them
into something unique

6512
05:09:22,965 --> 05:09:24,862
that there was an audience for.

6513
05:09:26,241 --> 05:09:27,931
I think it's
important for us to keep

6514
05:09:27,931 --> 05:09:30,000
these films in conversation.

6515
05:09:30,000 --> 05:09:31,517
Especially the ones
that people think

6516
05:09:31,517 --> 05:09:34,551
maybe are not so great, because
there's the obvious ones,

6517
05:09:34,551 --> 05:09:36,482
like "The Shining", "The Thing".

6518
05:09:36,482 --> 05:09:39,758
Those extend beyond
horror audiences.

6519
05:09:39,758 --> 05:09:40,931
But then there's kind of like,

6520
05:09:40,931 --> 05:09:43,034
we have these in danger
of being forgotten

6521
05:09:43,034 --> 05:09:45,517
or going extinct gems.

6522
05:09:45,517 --> 05:09:47,896
As we move from
this media format

6523
05:09:47,896 --> 05:09:49,379
to this media format,

6524
05:09:49,379 --> 05:09:51,000
there's things that kind of
get pushed to the wayside,

6525
05:09:51,000 --> 05:09:52,517
and we're leaving them behind.

6526
05:09:52,517 --> 05:09:54,241
Hide the body, and come back,

6527
05:09:54,241 --> 05:09:55,862
and clean up the blood.

6528
05:09:55,862 --> 05:09:58,517
People should champion
anything that they enjoy,

6529
05:09:58,517 --> 05:10:01,103
because that's how
you keep things alive.

6530
05:10:04,034 --> 05:10:05,241
Streaming is great.

6531
05:10:05,241 --> 05:10:07,827
I love that it makes
things easily accessible

6532
05:10:07,827 --> 05:10:10,793
to the masses, but
also it doesn't compare

6533
05:10:10,793 --> 05:10:13,724
to browsing and
picking something up

6534
05:10:13,724 --> 05:10:16,068
and feeling it, smelling it,

6535
05:10:16,068 --> 05:10:17,413
holding it in your hands

6536
05:10:17,413 --> 05:10:19,586
is a special kind of experience.

6537
05:10:22,793 --> 05:10:26,206
Home video and cable
meant that movies

6538
05:10:26,206 --> 05:10:29,724
didn't go away, and
that meant that movies

6539
05:10:29,724 --> 05:10:32,137
found their audience.

6540
05:10:32,137 --> 05:10:33,793
And then word of mouth kicks in.

6541
05:10:33,793 --> 05:10:37,862
And to no small extent,
creates horror fandom,

6542
05:10:37,862 --> 05:10:40,482
which has become this tidal wave

6543
05:10:40,482 --> 05:10:45,241
over the 30, 40 years since
that technology arrived.

6544
05:10:45,241 --> 05:10:48,068
Of course it's not ideal
to see a movie on tape

6545
05:10:48,068 --> 05:10:49,896
as opposed to seeing
it on the big screen,

6546
05:10:49,896 --> 05:10:51,482
but as we see that
the way that the world

6547
05:10:51,482 --> 05:10:54,793
has currently gone, many
more people see movies

6548
05:10:54,793 --> 05:10:56,379
on their devices
than they ever see

6549
05:10:56,379 --> 05:10:58,172
on a theater screen,
and the trade off

6550
05:10:58,172 --> 05:11:00,275
is it isn't gonna be seen

6551
05:11:00,275 --> 05:11:01,724
by very many people
in the theater.

6552
05:11:01,724 --> 05:11:03,413
It's mostly gonna
be seen at home.

6553
05:11:04,551 --> 05:11:07,586
Today, there's a kind
of casualness to it.

6554
05:11:07,586 --> 05:11:09,758
I'm still a child of the cinema.

6555
05:11:09,758 --> 05:11:12,793
I'm not crazy about
people being introduced

6556
05:11:12,793 --> 05:11:14,137
to horror through digital.

6557
05:11:15,344 --> 05:11:17,034
The upside is that
the screens are better,

6558
05:11:17,034 --> 05:11:18,931
they're bigger, the
sound is better.

6559
05:11:18,931 --> 05:11:20,448
People are very
serious about the way

6560
05:11:20,448 --> 05:11:21,758
they present their films,

6561
05:11:21,758 --> 05:11:24,241
and so it's a
theater-like experience,

6562
05:11:24,241 --> 05:11:25,758
but it's not a
theater experience,

6563
05:11:25,758 --> 05:11:27,551
because a theater
experience is with a large

6564
05:11:27,551 --> 05:11:30,172
audience of people,
who make the difference

6565
05:11:30,172 --> 05:11:32,862
between what you're watching,
and what you're experiencing.

6566
05:11:34,137 --> 05:11:36,517
An experienced horror
film with a big audience

6567
05:11:36,517 --> 05:11:39,103
that's enjoying it is
completely different

6568
05:11:39,103 --> 05:11:42,551
and more fun experience
than watching it

6569
05:11:42,551 --> 05:11:43,896
at home with two friends.

6570
05:11:43,896 --> 05:11:45,241
That's just night and day.

6571
05:11:45,241 --> 05:11:47,344
Part of the problem
is our technology

6572
05:11:47,344 --> 05:11:48,793
is so magnificent now.

6573
05:11:48,793 --> 05:11:52,034
People think anything
old is clunky.

6574
05:11:52,034 --> 05:11:53,793
This desire just to see the new,

6575
05:11:53,793 --> 05:11:56,275
the new, the new, the
next, the next, the next,

6576
05:11:56,275 --> 05:11:59,068
sometimes prevents us
from taking some time

6577
05:11:59,068 --> 05:12:01,034
out of our very busy lives

6578
05:12:01,034 --> 05:12:03,586
and realizing that
there's some great stuff

6579
05:12:03,586 --> 05:12:05,275
from the past.

6580
05:12:08,137 --> 05:12:11,620
Maybe the movie itself
isn't necessarily great,

6581
05:12:11,620 --> 05:12:13,689
but it's the experience
of watching it

6582
05:12:13,689 --> 05:12:15,620
that makes it great,
and then 20 years later,

6583
05:12:15,620 --> 05:12:18,206
you're telling people, no you
have to watch "Motel Hell".

6584
05:12:18,206 --> 05:12:20,482
This is one of the
greatest movies ever made.

6585
05:12:23,448 --> 05:12:24,965
They hold it near
and dear to their heart

6586
05:12:24,965 --> 05:12:27,931
because they've seen it with
their father who's passed,

6587
05:12:27,931 --> 05:12:30,310
or cousin made them
watch it to scare them,

6588
05:12:30,310 --> 05:12:32,000
or whatever,
however they saw it.

6589
05:12:32,000 --> 05:12:34,000
It holds good
memories for people.

6590
05:12:35,655 --> 05:12:37,103
Horror is personal.

6591
05:12:37,103 --> 05:12:40,068
We can all agree on
a good horror film.

6592
05:12:40,068 --> 05:12:41,448
It's like, ah "Psycho".

6593
05:12:41,448 --> 05:12:44,172
But nobody's defending
"Psycho" to the death.

6594
05:12:44,172 --> 05:12:47,241
I think we have it all wrong
when we talk about horror.

6595
05:12:47,241 --> 05:12:49,931
We're like, this is
good, or this is bad.

6596
05:12:49,931 --> 05:12:51,448
No.

6597
05:12:51,448 --> 05:12:53,827
Something is entertaining
or it's not entertaining,

6598
05:12:53,827 --> 05:12:57,103
and by putting everything
on a good and bad dichotomy,

6599
05:12:57,103 --> 05:12:59,206
we ruin our experience
of being able

6600
05:12:59,206 --> 05:13:03,068
to talk about a movie,
like "Sleepaway Camp II",

6601
05:13:03,068 --> 05:13:05,068
that's just like a
fucking good time.

6602
05:13:05,068 --> 05:13:07,379
"Sleepaway Camp II" doesn't
have to be high art,

6603
05:13:07,379 --> 05:13:09,241
to be a social satire.

6604
05:13:09,241 --> 05:13:12,103
Howdy partner!

6605
05:13:12,103 --> 05:13:13,310
I actually think
that you can find

6606
05:13:13,310 --> 05:13:14,931
more in our culture and history

6607
05:13:14,931 --> 05:13:16,931
and even just social context

6608
05:13:16,931 --> 05:13:19,241
in films that are labeled trash.

6609
05:13:19,241 --> 05:13:21,103
There's more there to
actually pick from,

6610
05:13:21,103 --> 05:13:24,068
and shine a light on
who we were as people.

6611
05:13:24,068 --> 05:13:25,586
Like, a popcorn film?

6612
05:13:25,586 --> 05:13:29,724
That's loaded with identity,
and society, and culture.

6613
05:13:31,172 --> 05:13:33,379
I'm way more interested in
the history I'm gonna get

6614
05:13:33,379 --> 05:13:35,413
from a movie that
people cast aside

6615
05:13:35,413 --> 05:13:36,689
than the history I'm gonna get

6616
05:13:36,689 --> 05:13:38,965
and what I learn in
a film school class.

6617
05:13:41,620 --> 05:13:46,310
Let's not get insanely
academic about these films.

6618
05:13:46,310 --> 05:13:48,379
The people who watch
these movies in the 80s

6619
05:13:48,379 --> 05:13:50,758
weren't watching them from
an ironic point of view.

6620
05:13:50,758 --> 05:13:53,206
They were watching them because
they enjoyed the mayhem.

6621
05:13:53,206 --> 05:13:55,689
The people who watch
those same movies today

6622
05:13:55,689 --> 05:13:58,206
are watching them from
an academic standpoint,

6623
05:13:58,206 --> 05:14:01,413
as though they're analyzing
every little detail

6624
05:14:01,413 --> 05:14:02,482
of the film.

6625
05:14:02,482 --> 05:14:04,000
These films were made by guys

6626
05:14:04,000 --> 05:14:06,241
who wanted to make a fast buck.

6627
05:14:06,241 --> 05:14:08,000
These films were made for money.

6628
05:14:08,000 --> 05:14:11,206
They were not concerned with
trying to impress anybody.

6629
05:14:11,206 --> 05:14:15,034
They were concerned with the
largest audience possible.

6630
05:14:15,034 --> 05:14:17,517
They were filmmakers, but
they were also businessmen.

6631
05:14:19,896 --> 05:14:22,896
These aren't big
extravagant productions.

6632
05:14:26,206 --> 05:14:28,034
You crazy bastard.

6633
05:14:28,034 --> 05:14:30,103
Horror lets you be creative.

6634
05:14:30,103 --> 05:14:31,827
You can go outside the box.

6635
05:14:31,827 --> 05:14:33,620
You can go outside the scope.

6636
05:14:33,620 --> 05:14:36,103
Horror, it can look
cheesy and bad,

6637
05:14:36,103 --> 05:14:37,482
and it's fun.

6638
05:14:40,655 --> 05:14:43,379
We love to be scared,

6639
05:14:43,379 --> 05:14:47,275
and we love to think
we're in peril.

6640
05:14:48,793 --> 05:14:53,793
And we love to be at
odds with each other.

6641
05:14:54,965 --> 05:14:58,827
Movies are so powerful,
because it reminds us

6642
05:14:58,827 --> 05:15:01,758
of a simpler, more
innocent time.

6643
05:15:01,758 --> 05:15:03,689
And that's where
we all want to be.

6644
05:15:03,689 --> 05:15:06,137
God knows in this day and age.

6645
05:15:06,137 --> 05:15:07,827
That's where we all want to be.

6646
05:16:38,448 --> 05:16:40,724
So, before watching
"In Search of Darkness",

6647
05:16:40,724 --> 05:16:41,965
I was definitely
one of those guys

6648
05:16:41,965 --> 05:16:44,206
who was like, yeah
man, I know 80s horror.

6649
05:16:44,206 --> 05:16:46,103
Freddie and Jason!

6650
05:16:46,103 --> 05:16:47,965
Sweet!

6651
05:16:47,965 --> 05:16:49,655
And then I watched "In
Search of Darkness",

6652
05:16:49,655 --> 05:16:52,103
and I realized,
you naive bastard,

6653
05:16:52,103 --> 05:16:54,965
you know nothing
about 80s horror.

6654
05:16:54,965 --> 05:16:57,137
So now I actually know things,

6655
05:16:57,137 --> 05:16:59,275
and like, how had
I lived my life

6656
05:16:59,275 --> 05:17:01,275
and missed "Sleepaway Camp"?

6657
05:17:01,275 --> 05:17:03,137
That is a fantastic movie.

6658
05:17:03,137 --> 05:17:05,758
So thank you for awakening me.

6659
05:17:08,620 --> 05:17:10,310
80s horror is
very important to me

6660
05:17:10,310 --> 05:17:12,275
as I grew up in the early 80s,

6661
05:17:12,275 --> 05:17:13,965
and horror was embedded
in our culture.

6662
05:17:13,965 --> 05:17:15,758
It was in our toys,
in our cartoons.

6663
05:17:15,758 --> 05:17:16,931
It was everywhere.

6664
05:17:16,931 --> 05:17:18,965
We used to draw
monsters in art class,

6665
05:17:18,965 --> 05:17:20,034
like the Monster Squad,

6666
05:17:20,034 --> 05:17:21,448
and that was
acceptable back then.

6667
05:17:21,448 --> 05:17:23,551
You wouldn't get locked
up for stuff like that.

6668
05:17:23,551 --> 05:17:25,413
I miss going into a video store

6669
05:17:25,413 --> 05:17:27,689
and grabbing a random VHS

6670
05:17:27,689 --> 05:17:29,241
and saying hey, this
box art, it looks good.

6671
05:17:29,241 --> 05:17:31,000
Is it a curse, or is it great?

6672
05:17:31,000 --> 05:17:32,344
You never know.

6673
05:17:32,344 --> 05:17:33,620
And you watch it
with your friends

6674
05:17:33,620 --> 05:17:35,000
in the middle of the
night, enjoying it,

6675
05:17:35,000 --> 05:17:37,103
and it brings you back
to a simpler time.

6676
05:17:40,551 --> 05:17:41,827
80s horror is
so important to me

6677
05:17:41,827 --> 05:17:43,689
because it's an
escape from reality.

6678
05:17:43,689 --> 05:17:45,517
Takes me back to a simpler time.

6679
05:17:45,517 --> 05:17:46,931
Gives me that nostalgia.

6680
05:17:46,931 --> 05:17:48,413
And these documentaries,

6681
05:17:48,413 --> 05:17:50,551
they help nail the fact home

6682
05:17:50,551 --> 05:17:53,000
that horror can
be a cathartic way

6683
05:17:53,000 --> 05:17:55,448
to deal with fear and
all the BS this world

6684
05:17:55,448 --> 05:17:56,689
has to throw at us.

6685
05:17:56,689 --> 05:17:58,551
80s horror, and all
horror in general,

6686
05:17:58,551 --> 05:17:59,793
and I love that.

6687
05:17:59,793 --> 05:18:01,586
These documentaries
are amazing for that.

6688
05:18:01,586 --> 05:18:02,724
Favorite movie of all time?

6689
05:18:02,724 --> 05:18:04,965
"Silver Bullet", 1985.

6690
05:18:04,965 --> 05:18:07,758
It is incredible.

6691
05:18:07,758 --> 05:18:08,620
Rock on.

6692
05:18:11,793 --> 05:18:13,000
Hey.

6693
05:18:13,000 --> 05:18:14,896
I just wanted to say
thank you so, so much

6694
05:18:14,896 --> 05:18:17,931
to everybody involved with
"In Search of Darkness".

6695
05:18:17,931 --> 05:18:19,827
It's been absolutely fantastic.

6696
05:18:19,827 --> 05:18:21,344
I've really, really enjoyed.

6697
05:18:21,344 --> 05:18:23,931
It's flooded back
memories of going down

6698
05:18:23,931 --> 05:18:26,034
the video shop, the video store,

6699
05:18:26,034 --> 05:18:28,896
in the 80s, looking at
the best horror films

6700
05:18:28,896 --> 05:18:30,241
that were released.

6701
05:18:30,241 --> 05:18:31,448
Absolutely fantastic.

6702
05:18:31,448 --> 05:18:33,068
And it's also introduced me

6703
05:18:33,068 --> 05:18:35,896
to some of the
classics that I missed,

6704
05:18:35,896 --> 05:18:38,448
down the video shop, going
back all those years.

6705
05:18:42,827 --> 05:18:45,448
80s horror
happened to coincide

6706
05:18:45,448 --> 05:18:48,793
with the VHS era,
and in my opinion,

6707
05:18:48,793 --> 05:18:50,620
the 80s horror was
the prime attraction

6708
05:18:50,620 --> 05:18:52,000
of the VHS.

6709
05:18:52,000 --> 05:18:53,482
I mean, look at that.

6710
05:18:53,482 --> 05:18:56,034
How could you walk by that
and not want to rent it?

6711
05:18:59,413 --> 05:19:00,689
Oh, hi.

6712
05:19:00,689 --> 05:19:01,931
I'm AJ Danna.

6713
05:19:01,931 --> 05:19:04,517
I played Tapehead at
"Slashback Video".

6714
05:19:04,517 --> 05:19:06,137
The "In Search of
Darkness" trilogy

6715
05:19:06,137 --> 05:19:08,551
has meant so much to
dust off these old

6716
05:19:08,551 --> 05:19:11,551
classic horror tapes, and
make sure each and every

6717
05:19:11,551 --> 05:19:15,344
actor and filmmaker involved
in these movie making gems

6718
05:19:15,344 --> 05:19:17,551
did not pour their
blood, sweat, and tears

6719
05:19:17,551 --> 05:19:20,000
into movies in vain.

6720
05:19:21,068 --> 05:19:22,241
So anyways, thanks.

6721
05:19:25,551 --> 05:19:27,448
I decided to back the "In
Search of Darkness" series

6722
05:19:27,448 --> 05:19:29,931
for the tireless people
behind Creator BC,

6723
05:19:29,931 --> 05:19:32,000
because you learn something
interesting and significant

6724
05:19:32,000 --> 05:19:34,068
about the films from the
people who worked on the films

6725
05:19:34,068 --> 05:19:36,068
that you can't
find anywhere else.

6726
05:19:38,448 --> 05:19:40,758
To me, horror movies
were a safe haven

6727
05:19:40,758 --> 05:19:42,000
growing up in the 80s.

6728
05:19:42,000 --> 05:19:44,448
I spent so many hours
in the video store

6729
05:19:44,448 --> 05:19:46,689
browsing for titles to watch.

6730
05:19:46,689 --> 05:19:49,517
When "In Search of
Darkness: Part One" ended,

6731
05:19:49,517 --> 05:19:52,517
the covers shown up with a key,

6732
05:19:52,517 --> 05:19:56,310
and a dark room, the
TV, the characters.

6733
05:19:56,310 --> 05:19:59,000
It was like I was that same boy.

6734
05:20:00,172 --> 05:20:03,413
This documentary has
been a door to go back

6735
05:20:03,413 --> 05:20:04,724
and complete that journey.

6736
05:20:07,068 --> 05:20:08,793
80s horror movies
are important to me

6737
05:20:08,793 --> 05:20:10,517
because I was raised
the right way,

6738
05:20:10,517 --> 05:20:11,758
and grew up watching them

6739
05:20:11,758 --> 05:20:13,344
ever since I was
a wee little one,

6740
05:20:13,344 --> 05:20:15,206
despite not growing
up in that generation.

6741
05:20:15,206 --> 05:20:17,379
But it was cool people
from that generation

6742
05:20:17,379 --> 05:20:19,103
who showed me those
movies, and gave us

6743
05:20:19,103 --> 05:20:20,413
something to bond over.

6744
05:20:20,413 --> 05:20:22,379
But my favorite
horror movie has to be

6745
05:20:22,379 --> 05:20:23,620
John Carpenter's "The Thing".

6746
05:20:23,620 --> 05:20:25,793
The most amazing
practical effects

6747
05:20:25,793 --> 05:20:27,793
to the gore, and
of course starring

6748
05:20:27,793 --> 05:20:30,620
the absolute hunks Kurt
Russel and Keith David,

6749
05:20:30,620 --> 05:20:32,000
what is there not to love?

6750
05:20:32,000 --> 05:20:33,413
So 80s horror rules,

6751
05:20:33,413 --> 05:20:35,034
and thanks to "In
Search of Darkness"

6752
05:20:35,034 --> 05:20:36,379
for bringing it all back.

6753
05:20:38,517 --> 05:20:42,448
You know, growing up as a
kid with not many friends,

6754
05:20:42,448 --> 05:20:44,965
actually I had none
until I was 10.

6755
05:20:46,344 --> 05:20:49,310
Single father, worked
nights, and slept all day.

6756
05:20:49,310 --> 05:20:51,793
Horror movies were my go-to,

6757
05:20:51,793 --> 05:20:54,275
and the monsters
were my friends,

6758
05:20:54,275 --> 05:20:56,103
and it was just awesome.

6759
05:20:56,103 --> 05:20:59,068
With the "In Search
of Darkness" trilogy,

6760
05:20:59,068 --> 05:21:02,482
I got to relive that
past as a child,

6761
05:21:02,482 --> 05:21:06,344
and it just, it's perfect.

6762
05:21:11,172 --> 05:21:12,275
80s horror was the best.

6763
05:21:12,275 --> 05:21:13,586
It was imagination.

6764
05:21:13,586 --> 05:21:14,827
It was entertainment.

6765
05:21:14,827 --> 05:21:16,827
It was fun, it was
gory, it was crazy,

6766
05:21:16,827 --> 05:21:17,655
it was the best.

6767
05:21:17,655 --> 05:21:19,068
80 horror rules!

6768
05:21:22,000 --> 05:21:24,172
I'm Matt Weinhold,
and I love 80s horror

6769
05:21:24,172 --> 05:21:27,241
because it's scary,
sexy, innovative,

6770
05:21:27,241 --> 05:21:30,862
indecent, unapologetic, and fun!

6771
05:21:30,862 --> 05:21:33,068
It's the punk rock of horror!

6772
05:21:39,689 --> 05:21:42,068
Having been a
teenager in the 1980s,

6773
05:21:42,068 --> 05:21:44,724
I was able to experience
most of these films

6774
05:21:44,724 --> 05:21:46,413
in a theatrical setting.

6775
05:21:46,413 --> 05:21:49,448
The 80s gave us the
best of John Landis,

6776
05:21:49,448 --> 05:21:52,379
and John Carpenter,
and David Cronenberg,

6777
05:21:52,379 --> 05:21:54,620
and we got to see the
birth of franchises

6778
05:21:54,620 --> 05:21:56,896
of "Friday the 13th" and
"Nightmare on Elm Street",

6779
05:21:56,896 --> 05:21:58,827
and "Poltergeist", "Evil Dead",

6780
05:21:58,827 --> 05:22:01,310
and what "In Search of
Darkness" has allowed me to do

6781
05:22:01,310 --> 05:22:04,827
is revisit those memories,
and love these films

6782
05:22:04,827 --> 05:22:05,862
all over again.

6783
05:22:08,793 --> 05:22:12,103
In the 1980s, we
gazed into the abyss,

6784
05:22:12,103 --> 05:22:13,620
and we smiled,

6785
05:22:13,620 --> 05:22:16,689
because it was filled with
visceral practical effects,

6786
05:22:16,689 --> 05:22:19,586
intrepid heroes, garish demons,

6787
05:22:19,586 --> 05:22:22,379
and synth-laden
nightmare schemes.

6788
05:22:22,379 --> 05:22:24,241
Thanks to "In
Search of Darkness",

6789
05:22:24,241 --> 05:22:28,379
the abyss can finally gaze
back at us, and smile.

6790
05:22:32,827 --> 05:22:34,310
My love of 80s horror films

6791
05:22:34,310 --> 05:22:36,724
started back when
I was 11 years old.

6792
05:22:36,724 --> 05:22:38,448
I stayed up one night
and watched "A Nightmare

6793
05:22:38,448 --> 05:22:40,172
"on Elm Street" with my mum.

6794
05:22:40,172 --> 05:22:41,965
Halfway through the
film, I got so scared

6795
05:22:41,965 --> 05:22:45,068
that I went up to bed,
and five minutes later,

6796
05:22:45,068 --> 05:22:46,620
I was back downstairs
watching the rest

6797
05:22:46,620 --> 05:22:48,103
of the film with her.

6798
05:22:48,103 --> 05:22:50,827
That's where it started, and
it's never stopped since.

6799
05:22:53,482 --> 05:22:56,344
Watching "In Search of
Darkness" documentaries

6800
05:22:56,344 --> 05:22:59,413
takes me back to the best
part of my childhood,

6801
05:23:00,862 --> 05:23:04,724
and also knowing that I'm
watching these documentaries

6802
05:23:04,724 --> 05:23:07,310
with a community of people

6803
05:23:07,310 --> 05:23:10,793
that also share my
love of 80s horror,

6804
05:23:10,793 --> 05:23:12,758
it is the best feeling.

6805
05:23:15,137 --> 05:23:19,724
The immense popularity
of these movies

6806
05:23:19,724 --> 05:23:22,862
showed so many of
us that we were part

6807
05:23:22,862 --> 05:23:27,724
of a global community,
and so in a way,

6808
05:23:27,724 --> 05:23:29,896
the darkness became
a place of comfort,

6809
05:23:29,896 --> 05:23:33,724
because we knew
we weren't alone.

6810
05:23:36,172 --> 05:23:39,448
In a sense, it's more
like it's our story,

6811
05:23:39,448 --> 05:23:41,310
and what these
movies mean to us,

6812
05:23:41,310 --> 05:23:43,931
and I can't thank these
documentaries enough for that.

6813
05:23:46,379 --> 05:23:48,689
Everything about
it is so beautiful.

6814
05:23:48,689 --> 05:23:51,137
It's one of the
best times of horror

6815
05:23:51,137 --> 05:23:54,310
and it makes me feel
better about me and myself.

6816
05:23:58,862 --> 05:24:01,137
There's something
for everyone in there,

6817
05:24:01,137 --> 05:24:04,413
whether you like
slashers, comedies,

6818
05:24:04,413 --> 05:24:07,793
my personal favorite
horror movie from the 1980s

6819
05:24:07,793 --> 05:24:09,724
is "Killer Klowns
from Outer Space".

6820
05:24:09,724 --> 05:24:11,310
I saw that movie the first time

6821
05:24:11,310 --> 05:24:15,000
when I was maybe 10 years old,

6822
05:24:15,000 --> 05:24:17,620
and that's one of the
movies that made me

6823
05:24:17,620 --> 05:24:20,206
fall in love with horror,
and the reason I'm as big

6824
05:24:20,206 --> 05:24:22,068
of a horror fan as I am today.

6825
05:24:24,896 --> 05:24:27,000
When I wanted to
get into horror,

6826
05:24:27,000 --> 05:24:30,241
and I was too scared
to watch it by myself,

6827
05:24:30,241 --> 05:24:33,379
my friends would sit with
me in my dark basement,

6828
05:24:33,379 --> 05:24:36,931
and we would watch 80s
horror movies together.

6829
05:24:36,931 --> 05:24:39,034
And we started
with the classics,

6830
05:24:39,034 --> 05:24:43,000
and slowly moved our way out
to totally obscure titles,

6831
05:24:43,000 --> 05:24:47,793
but for me, those were really
special times in my life.

6832
05:24:47,793 --> 05:24:50,620
And it really made horror,
especially 80s horror,

6833
05:24:50,620 --> 05:24:53,620
something that brought
people together in my life.

6834
05:24:56,241 --> 05:24:58,965
80s horror movies really
had a style of their own

6835
05:24:58,965 --> 05:25:00,586
that make this
particular decade of work

6836
05:25:00,586 --> 05:25:03,000
always so unique
to look back on.

6837
05:25:03,000 --> 05:25:05,034
It was also a decade where
it felt like special effects

6838
05:25:05,034 --> 05:25:07,620
were perfected in such a way,
you could almost smell them

6839
05:25:07,620 --> 05:25:10,275
through your screen,
something like "The Thing",

6840
05:25:10,275 --> 05:25:12,034
and speaking of "The
Thing", you could have

6841
05:25:12,034 --> 05:25:14,344
hard horror subject like that,

6842
05:25:14,344 --> 05:25:16,379
but you could have also
sillier stuff like "Vamp",

6843
05:25:16,379 --> 05:25:18,689
which makes this particular
decade always so fun

6844
05:25:18,689 --> 05:25:21,172
to go back and
discover new gems,

6845
05:25:21,172 --> 05:25:23,482
and I really am glad that
these documentaries exist

6846
05:25:23,482 --> 05:25:24,931
to highlight all of that.

6847
05:25:27,275 --> 05:25:30,689
Best thing about 80s horror
were the comedy movies,

6848
05:25:30,689 --> 05:25:33,862
like "The Burbs",
and "Gremlins 2",

6849
05:25:33,862 --> 05:25:35,862
"House", "House 2",
the "Ghostbusters",

6850
05:25:35,862 --> 05:25:38,000
all those movies made
it so much easier

6851
05:25:38,000 --> 05:25:40,827
as a kid to then turn
around and be able to watch

6852
05:25:40,827 --> 05:25:43,275
movies with this
scary bastard in it,

6853
05:25:43,275 --> 05:25:45,620
and scare the shit out of
you when you're a little kid.

6854
05:25:47,689 --> 05:25:49,517
John Carpenter, Wes
Craven, Tobe Hooper,

6855
05:25:49,517 --> 05:25:51,862
Tom Holland, Peter
Jackson, Sam Raimi,

6856
05:25:51,862 --> 05:25:53,586
Stewart Gordon, Don Coscarelli.

6857
05:25:53,586 --> 05:25:55,551
I just need an
indestructible boogeyman

6858
05:25:55,551 --> 05:25:57,551
carving up annoying teenagers.

6859
05:25:57,551 --> 05:25:58,827
I don't need to know how or why.

6860
05:25:58,827 --> 05:26:00,344
It just has to show
up every few years,

6861
05:26:00,344 --> 05:26:02,137
and do it again
in creative ways.

6862
05:26:02,137 --> 05:26:04,000
Give me a monster
with sharp teeth,

6863
05:26:04,000 --> 05:26:05,310
and gooey tentacles.

6864
05:26:05,310 --> 05:26:06,965
What I don't want
is found footage,

6865
05:26:06,965 --> 05:26:08,620
and shaky cam and
possessed dolls,

6866
05:26:08,620 --> 05:26:11,310
and cheesy ghosts, and
spare me all the CGI blood.

6867
05:26:11,310 --> 05:26:13,413
I want Tom Savini,
Screaming Mad George.

6868
05:26:13,413 --> 05:26:15,551
I want a Kurtzman
Nicotero hamburger.

6869
05:26:19,103 --> 05:26:19,931
Hey guys.

6870
05:26:19,931 --> 05:26:21,344
My name is Jason.

6871
05:26:21,344 --> 05:26:22,724
And no surprise, my
favorite horror franchise

6872
05:26:22,724 --> 05:26:24,827
of all time is
"Friday the 13th".

6873
05:26:24,827 --> 05:26:27,413
I did a book report on
Part 3 in grade six.

6874
05:26:27,413 --> 05:26:29,620
Yes, I was in grade six
watching these movies,

6875
05:26:29,620 --> 05:26:31,137
and I absolutely loved them.

6876
05:26:32,689 --> 05:26:35,517
I think the 80s is
absolutely the greatest decade

6877
05:26:35,517 --> 05:26:37,931
of horror films, and
I grew up in the 90s.

6878
05:26:37,931 --> 05:26:40,068
There were so many great
horror films made back then.

6879
05:26:40,068 --> 05:26:42,689
I can't even decide
which one's my favorite.

6880
05:26:42,689 --> 05:26:44,551
I also think "In Search of
Darkness" is the greatest

6881
05:26:44,551 --> 05:26:46,724
documentary ever made.

6882
05:26:46,724 --> 05:26:48,137
It introduced me to
several horror films

6883
05:26:48,137 --> 05:26:50,482
I had never heard of,
including "Sleepaway Camp",

6884
05:26:50,482 --> 05:26:52,068
"Fade to Black", "Motel Hell",

6885
05:26:52,068 --> 05:26:53,310
"American Werewolf in London",

6886
05:26:53,310 --> 05:26:55,724
"Society", "Scanners",
"The Changeling",

6887
05:26:55,724 --> 05:26:58,000
"The Ghost Story",
and so many more.

6888
05:26:58,000 --> 05:26:59,310
I don't think there
will ever be anything

6889
05:26:59,310 --> 05:27:01,172
like 80s horror ever again

6890
05:27:03,482 --> 05:27:05,000
Hello, everyone.

6891
05:27:05,000 --> 05:27:07,034
What I've enjoyed most about
the "In Search of Darkness"

6892
05:27:07,034 --> 05:27:09,413
documentary series
would have to be

6893
05:27:09,413 --> 05:27:12,413
the behind the scenes
information about the movies

6894
05:27:12,413 --> 05:27:17,000
I know and love, but also,
and probably more importantly,

6895
05:27:17,000 --> 05:27:19,655
the vast amount of hidden gems

6896
05:27:19,655 --> 05:27:21,344
it has introduced me to.

6897
05:27:21,344 --> 05:27:24,379
It is mind-blowing how many
entertaining horror movies

6898
05:27:24,379 --> 05:27:25,965
there are from that decade.

6899
05:27:25,965 --> 05:27:26,896
So thank you.

6900
05:27:28,724 --> 05:27:30,275
One of my favorite
1980s horror movies

6901
05:27:30,275 --> 05:27:32,137
would have to be
"Night of the Demons".

6902
05:27:32,137 --> 05:27:33,827
Reason being, I was pretty young

6903
05:27:33,827 --> 05:27:35,172
when the movie first came out.

6904
05:27:35,172 --> 05:27:36,758
My older sister
introduced me to the film

6905
05:27:36,758 --> 05:27:38,310
because she wanted to scare me.

6906
05:27:38,310 --> 05:27:39,793
It scared me pretty good.

6907
05:27:39,793 --> 05:27:41,793
I remember having a hard time
going to sleep that night,

6908
05:27:41,793 --> 05:27:44,000
scared that the monster
was gonna get me.

6909
05:27:45,448 --> 05:27:48,068
So I have a lot of nostalgic
feelings about the movie.

6910
05:27:48,068 --> 05:27:49,551
That's why I like it so much.

6911
05:27:51,724 --> 05:27:55,000
My first and absolute
favorite 80s horror movie

6912
05:27:55,000 --> 05:27:56,689
is "American Werewolf in London"

6913
05:27:56,689 --> 05:27:58,551
by John Landis.

6914
05:27:58,551 --> 05:28:01,586
Watching that movie sent
me down a rabbit hole

6915
05:28:01,586 --> 05:28:04,655
of 80s horror movies that
I'd never seen before,

6916
05:28:04,655 --> 05:28:06,482
and through that
movie, I got introduced

6917
05:28:06,482 --> 05:28:08,137
to "In Search of Darkness",

6918
05:28:09,551 --> 05:28:12,379
and ever since, things
have never been the same,

6919
05:28:12,379 --> 05:28:14,655
and it's been an
amazing journey.

6920
05:28:14,655 --> 05:28:15,862
I thank you for it.

6921
05:28:18,655 --> 05:28:21,206
80s horror is incredibly
important to me.

6922
05:28:21,206 --> 05:28:23,206
Horror slashed its
way into my life

6923
05:28:23,206 --> 05:28:24,448
when I was a kid.

6924
05:28:24,448 --> 05:28:26,379
Myself and my buddies
would stay up all night

6925
05:28:26,379 --> 05:28:28,551
watching horror movies,
from horror icons

6926
05:28:28,551 --> 05:28:30,551
like Freddie, to "Killer
Klowns from Outer Space".

6927
05:28:30,551 --> 05:28:32,551
The greatest times of my life

6928
05:28:32,551 --> 05:28:34,000
is due to the horror genre.

6929
05:28:34,000 --> 05:28:36,689
80s horror strapped
me into my adult life

6930
05:28:36,689 --> 05:28:39,275
where I now collect
80s horror memorabilia,

6931
05:28:39,275 --> 05:28:41,551
plus I'm always on the
hunt for 80s horror

6932
05:28:41,551 --> 05:28:43,000
that I'm yet to discover.

6933
05:28:43,000 --> 05:28:45,413
I have an insatiable
thirst for blood in film.

6934
05:28:45,413 --> 05:28:47,137
Tom Savini's work in the genre

6935
05:28:47,137 --> 05:28:48,827
has my jaw dropped to the floor.

6936
05:28:48,827 --> 05:28:51,000
The realism of his
work is something

6937
05:28:51,000 --> 05:28:53,448
that's gonna be admired
long after I'm gone.

6938
05:28:53,448 --> 05:28:56,448
For me, he sets the bar for
practical effects within horror.

6939
05:28:56,448 --> 05:28:58,310
I love "In Search of
Darkness", as it's

6940
05:28:58,310 --> 05:29:01,137
a time capsule of
horror, for us, the fans.

6941
05:29:01,137 --> 05:29:03,586
"In Search of Darkness"
is also a love letter

6942
05:29:03,586 --> 05:29:05,413
to everyone that
holds a special place

6943
05:29:05,413 --> 05:29:06,724
in their heart for horror.

6944
05:29:08,448 --> 05:29:10,862
I love how they use
all practical effects,

6945
05:29:10,862 --> 05:29:13,137
for these, all the
blood and guts,

6946
05:29:13,137 --> 05:29:15,551
all the rubber monsters
that they used,

6947
05:29:15,551 --> 05:29:17,827
all the costume work
is all hand made,

6948
05:29:17,827 --> 05:29:19,551
and all practically done.

6949
05:29:19,551 --> 05:29:21,137
It makes it look great.

6950
05:29:23,172 --> 05:29:26,068
The 80s was an era of DIY.

6951
05:29:26,068 --> 05:29:28,103
If you didn't have a
passion for your craft,

6952
05:29:28,103 --> 05:29:31,034
or you didn't want
your story to be told,

6953
05:29:31,034 --> 05:29:33,862
it simply wouldn't
make it out there.

6954
05:29:33,862 --> 05:29:36,034
This is what showed in
the films growing up,

6955
05:29:36,034 --> 05:29:37,827
which was hard.

6956
05:29:37,827 --> 05:29:40,379
It's difficult to
articulate this feeling.

6957
05:29:40,379 --> 05:29:42,793
However, every fan or
person contributing

6958
05:29:42,793 --> 05:29:46,103
to this series, will have
moments which resonated

6959
05:29:46,103 --> 05:29:48,689
and impacted into
their adult life.

6960
05:29:51,551 --> 05:29:53,137
What I love most
about the 80s,

6961
05:29:53,137 --> 05:29:55,413
especially 80s horror movies,

6962
05:29:55,413 --> 05:29:58,137
is just how ridiculous
the concepts are,

6963
05:29:58,137 --> 05:30:00,793
and just how well
they're executed.

6964
05:30:02,758 --> 05:30:06,000
"In Search of Darkness"
meant a lot to me

6965
05:30:06,000 --> 05:30:09,413
because it introduced
me to a whole field,

6966
05:30:09,413 --> 05:30:11,103
a whole group of people,

6967
05:30:11,103 --> 05:30:14,586
that are so dedicated,
and so motivated,

6968
05:30:14,586 --> 05:30:17,724
on trying to find a
lot of 80s horror films

6969
05:30:17,724 --> 05:30:20,931
that not a lot of younger
horror film fans even heard of.

6970
05:30:20,931 --> 05:30:23,206
Sometimes y'all have
heard of "Halloween"

6971
05:30:23,206 --> 05:30:26,103
or "Friday the 13th", or
"Nightmare on Elm Street",

6972
05:30:26,103 --> 05:30:28,000
but it's these
small classic films

6973
05:30:28,000 --> 05:30:29,862
that really hold
deep to my heart,

6974
05:30:29,862 --> 05:30:31,206
knowing that a lot of
people have seen it

6975
05:30:31,206 --> 05:30:32,793
really brings joy to me.

6976
05:30:32,793 --> 05:30:34,379
That's why it meant a lot to me.

6977
05:30:38,034 --> 05:30:39,310
Hey, I'm Twisted Todd.

6978
05:30:39,310 --> 05:30:40,793
I'm a big fan of
80s horror films,

6979
05:30:40,793 --> 05:30:42,689
mainly because as a kid
growing up in the 80s,

6980
05:30:42,689 --> 05:30:43,896
didn't get to watch a
lot of horror movies,

6981
05:30:43,896 --> 05:30:45,793
but my parents
rented a lot of them,

6982
05:30:45,793 --> 05:30:47,068
and I got to hear
them from my bedroom,

6983
05:30:47,068 --> 05:30:48,379
which fed my curiosity,

6984
05:30:48,379 --> 05:30:49,896
so about the time I
was in middle school

6985
05:30:49,896 --> 05:30:52,068
in the late 80s, finally
got to watch horror films,

6986
05:30:52,068 --> 05:30:53,724
fell in love with
the slasher genre,

6987
05:30:53,724 --> 05:30:55,413
love films like "Creepshow",

6988
05:30:55,413 --> 05:30:57,241
and then later on
in my college days,

6989
05:30:57,241 --> 05:31:00,413
I really fell in love
with the cinematic genius

6990
05:31:00,413 --> 05:31:02,034
of directors like
John Carpenter,

6991
05:31:02,034 --> 05:31:03,275
and of course Sam Raimi,

6992
05:31:03,275 --> 05:31:05,000
because I'm a huge
"Evil Dead" fan.

6993
05:31:07,103 --> 05:31:09,586
I grew up mesmerized
by horror movies,

6994
05:31:09,586 --> 05:31:11,896
primarily throughout the 80s.

6995
05:31:11,896 --> 05:31:13,965
They were such an important part

6996
05:31:13,965 --> 05:31:15,965
of many of my formative years,

6997
05:31:15,965 --> 05:31:19,448
and contribute to so many
of my young memories.

6998
05:31:19,448 --> 05:31:21,689
I've since come to
embrace and enjoy

6999
05:31:21,689 --> 05:31:23,793
all cinema, having
learned so much more

7000
05:31:23,793 --> 05:31:26,379
about all genres over the years,

7001
05:31:26,379 --> 05:31:28,241
but you never forget
your first love.

7002
05:31:30,413 --> 05:31:31,655
Horror films of the 80s

7003
05:31:31,655 --> 05:31:34,758
were so imaginative,
and so ambitious,

7004
05:31:34,758 --> 05:31:37,241
but they pull it off,
and there's a real

7005
05:31:37,241 --> 05:31:38,896
charm to them, a levity
that we didn't have

7006
05:31:38,896 --> 05:31:41,241
in the 70s, when
everything was very real,

7007
05:31:41,241 --> 05:31:43,000
and very gritty,
and then we lost it

7008
05:31:43,000 --> 05:31:44,344
somewhere in the 90s,

7009
05:31:44,344 --> 05:31:46,241
and then things
got very cynical.

7010
05:31:46,241 --> 05:31:48,137
But there's a fun
factor to the 80s,

7011
05:31:48,137 --> 05:31:51,137
and it's no surprise
that it takes a project

7012
05:31:51,137 --> 05:31:53,517
three, four plus
hour documentaries

7013
05:31:53,517 --> 05:31:55,482
to really do that
decade justice.

7014
05:31:57,482 --> 05:31:59,068
Growing up in the
80s, horror movies

7015
05:31:59,068 --> 05:32:00,517
were a big part of my life.

7016
05:32:00,517 --> 05:32:02,172
Thanks to a video rentals shop,

7017
05:32:02,172 --> 05:32:03,586
I was able to watch
as many as I want

7018
05:32:03,586 --> 05:32:06,620
when I wanted without
issue on my edge,

7019
05:32:06,620 --> 05:32:08,000
that helped me get through
the trauma of school,

7020
05:32:08,000 --> 05:32:09,793
and everything
that came with it,

7021
05:32:09,793 --> 05:32:12,000
and this is why I'm
passionate about them,

7022
05:32:12,000 --> 05:32:14,241
and in particular,
"Nightmare on Elm Street"

7023
05:32:14,241 --> 05:32:16,413
is one I'm really
passionate about.

7024
05:32:20,482 --> 05:32:23,620
80s horror movies were a
big part of my childhood,

7025
05:32:23,620 --> 05:32:25,689
having grown up in the 80s,

7026
05:32:25,689 --> 05:32:27,689
I watched them all.

7027
05:32:27,689 --> 05:32:30,965
My favorite 80s horror
movie of all time

7028
05:32:30,965 --> 05:32:33,172
is "A Nightmare on Elm Street".

7029
05:32:33,172 --> 05:32:36,758
It was the first horror
movie I ever saw,

7030
05:32:36,758 --> 05:32:40,241
and it planted the seed
for my love of horror.

7031
05:32:40,241 --> 05:32:42,482
These "Search for
Darkness" documentaries

7032
05:32:42,482 --> 05:32:45,586
have been nostalgic,
and brought back

7033
05:32:45,586 --> 05:32:49,379
all those happy memories
of visiting video stores.

7034
05:32:51,482 --> 05:32:52,965
I was born in 1980,

7035
05:32:52,965 --> 05:32:54,551
so being a child of the 80s,

7036
05:32:54,551 --> 05:32:55,931
some of my best memories

7037
05:32:55,931 --> 05:32:56,862
were hanging out with my mom

7038
05:32:56,862 --> 05:32:58,379
on a Friday or Saturday night,

7039
05:32:58,379 --> 05:33:00,137
going down to the
local video store,

7040
05:33:00,137 --> 05:33:03,517
getting some 80s
horror on VHS tape,

7041
05:33:03,517 --> 05:33:04,724
and just making those memories

7042
05:33:04,724 --> 05:33:06,448
and being scared, laughing,

7043
05:33:06,448 --> 05:33:08,344
and getting all cringed up.

7044
05:33:08,344 --> 05:33:10,310
And the "In Search
of Darkness" series

7045
05:33:10,310 --> 05:33:12,551
has brought those
memories back to me,

7046
05:33:12,551 --> 05:33:14,793
and helped me discover
all the horror films

7047
05:33:14,793 --> 05:33:16,137
I never knew existed!

7048
05:33:16,137 --> 05:33:17,103
Thank you for that.

7049
05:33:19,793 --> 05:33:21,000
Hi there.

7050
05:33:21,000 --> 05:33:22,724
I love watching horror
movie documentaries

7051
05:33:22,724 --> 05:33:24,275
and anything regarding horror,

7052
05:33:24,275 --> 05:33:25,931
but one series I really love

7053
05:33:25,931 --> 05:33:28,448
is the "In Search
of Darkness" series.

7054
05:33:28,448 --> 05:33:30,344
I love how all these
people just show

7055
05:33:30,344 --> 05:33:32,344
how much they love and
care for these movies,

7056
05:33:32,344 --> 05:33:34,689
especially for the movies
I've never even heard before,

7057
05:33:34,689 --> 05:33:37,310
and I love this series,
because it shows me

7058
05:33:37,310 --> 05:33:38,586
all different kinds of horror

7059
05:33:38,586 --> 05:33:40,620
that I haven't
even heard before,

7060
05:33:40,620 --> 05:33:43,000
or even seen, or
anything like that.

7061
05:33:43,000 --> 05:33:44,827
So I'm sad that it's ending,

7062
05:33:44,827 --> 05:33:47,482
but hey, gotta end
sometimes, right?

7063
05:33:49,965 --> 05:33:51,310
I think most horror
fans would agree

7064
05:33:51,310 --> 05:33:53,344
that the absolute
best decade for horror

7065
05:33:53,344 --> 05:33:54,517
was the 1980s.

7066
05:33:54,517 --> 05:33:55,931
We got the best of the best,

7067
05:33:55,931 --> 05:33:57,206
the worst of the worst,

7068
05:33:57,206 --> 05:33:58,344
the best of the worst,

7069
05:33:58,344 --> 05:33:59,793
and everything in between.

7070
05:33:59,793 --> 05:34:01,000
I can't even pick a favorite,

7071
05:34:01,000 --> 05:34:02,793
because there's far too
many to choose from,

7072
05:34:02,793 --> 05:34:04,655
but having something like
the "In Search of Darkness"

7073
05:34:04,655 --> 05:34:07,551
trilogy has been an
absolute dream come true.

7074
05:34:07,551 --> 05:34:09,896
Getting to sit there for
hours and hours on end,

7075
05:34:09,896 --> 05:34:11,655
and watch my favorite filmmakers

7076
05:34:11,655 --> 05:34:13,758
talk about my favorite
films has been great,

7077
05:34:13,758 --> 05:34:16,034
but it's also been great
to be able to discover

7078
05:34:16,034 --> 05:34:18,655
new movies that I may not
have even heard of before.

7079
05:34:20,931 --> 05:34:23,275
"Evil Dead II", "Re-Animator",

7080
05:34:23,275 --> 05:34:25,758
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2",

7081
05:34:25,758 --> 05:34:29,689
all of these great horror films,

7082
05:34:29,689 --> 05:34:33,655
with comedic timing,
comedy inserted into it,

7083
05:34:34,793 --> 05:34:37,000
really affect me, shape me,

7084
05:34:37,000 --> 05:34:41,758
to such a degree that
today I write about horror

7085
05:34:41,758 --> 05:34:45,000
and horror comedy for
Pace Magazine and Vulture.

7086
05:34:50,275 --> 05:34:53,551
80s horror for me
signifies complete nostalgia.

7087
05:34:53,551 --> 05:34:55,517
I clearly remember
being a young boy

7088
05:34:55,517 --> 05:34:58,310
and seeing these wonderful
and iconic 80s posters,

7089
05:34:58,310 --> 05:35:01,551
and being simultaneously
scared and intrigued.

7090
05:35:01,551 --> 05:35:04,413
But now as an academic
that writes about horror,

7091
05:35:04,413 --> 05:35:06,172
documentaries like "In
Search of Darkness"

7092
05:35:06,172 --> 05:35:08,517
are highly important as
they raise the profile

7093
05:35:08,517 --> 05:35:10,172
of horrors in that form.

7094
05:35:10,172 --> 05:35:12,758
These films are not
only fun and super cool,

7095
05:35:12,758 --> 05:35:15,689
but they are significant
cultural products,

7096
05:35:15,689 --> 05:35:18,517
well-deserving of academic
analysis and study.

7097
05:35:21,000 --> 05:35:24,862
The 80s was a time when
the horror genre exploded.

7098
05:35:24,862 --> 05:35:27,517
Big name horror icons
like Jason, Freddie,

7099
05:35:27,517 --> 05:35:30,413
Chuckie, Pinhead, all got
their start in the 80s.

7100
05:35:30,413 --> 05:35:32,965
And being a late 90s
kid, these were names

7101
05:35:32,965 --> 05:35:36,000
that I grew up knowing to fear.

7102
05:35:36,000 --> 05:35:37,758
My girlfriend and I searched out

7103
05:35:37,758 --> 05:35:39,310
a lot of these films,
and it was something

7104
05:35:39,310 --> 05:35:41,206
that we could always bond over.

7105
05:35:41,206 --> 05:35:43,103
And I think that "In
Search of Darkness"

7106
05:35:43,103 --> 05:35:44,724
did something really great,

7107
05:35:44,724 --> 05:35:48,000
cataloging and celebrating
all of these films.

7108
05:35:50,000 --> 05:35:52,000
They have inspired
me to go to college

7109
05:35:52,000 --> 05:35:54,517
and learn how to
write horror films.

7110
05:35:54,517 --> 05:35:55,758
I'm a future filmmaker

7111
05:35:55,758 --> 05:35:58,275
because of all the
movies I've watched.

7112
05:35:59,896 --> 05:36:01,620
And I'm thankful that I was able

7113
05:36:01,620 --> 05:36:03,482
to be a part of this community.

7114
05:36:06,275 --> 05:36:09,000
Watching horror movies
as a kid in the 80s

7115
05:36:09,000 --> 05:36:11,689
inspired me to get
into the film industry,

7116
05:36:11,689 --> 05:36:15,034
especially to make
horror movies of my own,

7117
05:36:15,034 --> 05:36:17,379
and so "In Search of
Darkness" continues

7118
05:36:17,379 --> 05:36:19,620
to be that inspiration,

7119
05:36:19,620 --> 05:36:22,413
and I hope it does the same

7120
05:36:22,413 --> 05:36:25,482
for the next wave
of horror creators,

7121
05:36:25,482 --> 05:36:26,931
for generations to come.

7122
05:36:29,896 --> 05:36:31,344
80s horror means a lot to me,

7123
05:36:31,344 --> 05:36:32,655
takes me back to
when I was a kid

7124
05:36:32,655 --> 05:36:34,482
hanging out with my
brothers and my friends,

7125
05:36:34,482 --> 05:36:36,689
staying up late, watching
movies I know I should not

7126
05:36:36,689 --> 05:36:38,137
have been watching at the time,

7127
05:36:38,137 --> 05:36:40,000
and falling in love with
stories and characters

7128
05:36:40,000 --> 05:36:42,137
created by Wes Craven,
John Carpenter,

7129
05:36:42,137 --> 05:36:44,241
George Romero, and Charles Band.

7130
05:36:44,241 --> 05:36:45,758
I will always be in their debt

7131
05:36:45,758 --> 05:36:47,586
for providing me with
hours of entertainment,

7132
05:36:47,586 --> 05:36:49,000
and with "In Search
of Darkness",

7133
05:36:49,000 --> 05:36:50,965
it has provided me
with even more hours

7134
05:36:50,965 --> 05:36:52,241
of 80s horror entertainment

7135
05:36:52,241 --> 05:36:54,827
that I will continue
to watch to this day.

7136
05:36:54,827 --> 05:36:57,965
Long live 80s horror and
"In Search of Darkness".

7137
05:37:01,620 --> 05:37:04,689
As an 80s kid, one
of my favorite memories

7138
05:37:04,689 --> 05:37:08,862
are from video stores Friday
night selecting movies.

7139
05:37:08,862 --> 05:37:11,517
The horror section always
had the best films,

7140
05:37:11,517 --> 05:37:13,344
and the most amazing cover art.

7141
05:37:14,620 --> 05:37:16,965
The 80s horror
basically has it all,

7142
05:37:16,965 --> 05:37:19,344
a great story, a good cast,

7143
05:37:19,344 --> 05:37:22,275
amazing special effects,
and a cool soundtrack.

7144
05:37:24,724 --> 05:37:27,482
These documentaries have
been life-changing for me.

7145
05:37:27,482 --> 05:37:30,034
They were films that
I had forgotten about,

7146
05:37:30,034 --> 05:37:32,275
films that I had never seen,

7147
05:37:32,275 --> 05:37:35,586
and a love for a distinct period

7148
05:37:35,586 --> 05:37:40,000
of my early life that
I oftentimes feel
disconnected from,

7149
05:37:40,000 --> 05:37:44,344
and I'm so thankful to
have found these projects,

7150
05:37:44,344 --> 05:37:46,034
and been able to
back all of them.

7151
05:37:48,344 --> 05:37:49,172
Thank you.

7152
05:37:51,793 --> 05:37:53,517
All the best
parts of nostalgia

7153
05:37:55,172 --> 05:37:56,862
in a pool of blood.

7154
05:37:56,862 --> 05:37:57,689
Love it.

7155
05:37:59,758 --> 05:38:01,310
Hey, this is Jacob.

7156
05:38:01,310 --> 05:38:02,551
And Angelica.

7157
05:38:02,551 --> 05:38:04,482
We're both fans of
80s horror movies.

7158
05:38:04,482 --> 05:38:06,896
That's why we own
all three volumes

7159
05:38:06,896 --> 05:38:08,551
of "In Search of Darkness".

7160
05:38:08,551 --> 05:38:11,103
It's a dictionary, basically,
of all the greatest

7161
05:38:11,103 --> 05:38:13,275
horror movies made from the 80s

7162
05:38:13,275 --> 05:38:15,206
that we've all grown to love.

7163
05:38:15,206 --> 05:38:17,206
"In Search of
Darkness", you rock.

7164
05:38:20,448 --> 05:38:22,310
The "In Search of
Darkness" documentaries

7165
05:38:22,310 --> 05:38:24,551
have allowed me to
relive, year by year,

7166
05:38:24,551 --> 05:38:26,896
a truly golden age
in horror cinema.

7167
05:38:26,896 --> 05:38:28,862
In the 80s, we had
directors like Carpenter,

7168
05:38:28,862 --> 05:38:31,448
Romero, and Cronenberg in
the peak of their career.

7169
05:38:31,448 --> 05:38:33,655
We had a new generation of
practical special effects

7170
05:38:33,655 --> 05:38:36,517
in horror cinema, and
video stores coming out

7171
05:38:36,517 --> 05:38:38,275
with a new horror
title every week.

7172
05:38:38,275 --> 05:38:40,206
The fact that we're still
talking about all these films

7173
05:38:40,206 --> 05:38:42,482
over 30 years later
just shows how durable

7174
05:38:42,482 --> 05:38:44,068
the horror genre is.

7175
05:38:44,068 --> 05:38:46,517
So please, keep those
documentaries coming.

7176
05:38:51,448 --> 05:38:52,689
Hi.

7177
05:38:52,689 --> 05:38:54,206
First of all, I
want to thank you

7178
05:38:54,206 --> 05:38:56,517
for including us
fans in so many ways,

7179
05:38:56,517 --> 05:38:58,517
and for the journey
you've been taking us

7180
05:38:58,517 --> 05:39:01,206
for the three "In Search
of Darkness" documentaries.

7181
05:39:01,206 --> 05:39:03,896
I love 80s horror so much
because of the style,

7182
05:39:03,896 --> 05:39:06,758
the creativity, and the
passion for each of the films.

7183
05:39:06,758 --> 05:39:09,241
But the most important
part for me is

7184
05:39:09,241 --> 05:39:12,172
that every single film
from this horror decade,

7185
05:39:12,172 --> 05:39:13,413
the good and the bad,

7186
05:39:13,413 --> 05:39:16,000
are so great because
of the fun they make.

7187
05:39:20,103 --> 05:39:22,206
David, Robin.

7188
05:39:22,206 --> 05:39:24,310
You've created a monster.

7189
05:39:24,310 --> 05:39:27,000
A timeless milestone
for every horror fan.

7190
05:39:27,000 --> 05:39:29,103
And I'm extremely thankful
for being featured

7191
05:39:29,103 --> 05:39:32,655
in part one of the ultimate
horror documentary experience.

7192
05:39:32,655 --> 05:39:35,275
It made me feel
like I'm 15 again.

7193
05:39:35,275 --> 05:39:38,103
So for anyone who's "In
Search of Darkness",

7194
05:39:38,103 --> 05:39:40,655
stop searching,
because we found it.

7195
05:39:43,275 --> 05:39:45,448
80s horror is
so important to me

7196
05:39:45,448 --> 05:39:49,206
because it gave me ideas
to draw when I was younger,

7197
05:39:49,206 --> 05:39:51,620
and as my drawing
ability progressed,

7198
05:39:51,620 --> 05:39:53,862
today I'm a tattoo artist,

7199
05:39:53,862 --> 05:39:57,137
so I guess you could say 80s
horror helped shape my life.

7200
05:39:57,137 --> 05:39:58,758
Plus being Canadian,
I want to give

7201
05:39:58,758 --> 05:40:00,655
a special thanks
to David Cronenberg

7202
05:40:00,655 --> 05:40:03,034
for all the
inspiration he gave me.

7203
05:40:03,034 --> 05:40:05,275
"In Search of
Darkness", honestly,

7204
05:40:05,275 --> 05:40:08,000
greatest documentary
I have ever watched.

7205
05:40:08,000 --> 05:40:10,379
It brought me straight
back to some of the most

7206
05:40:10,379 --> 05:40:12,000
special times of my life.

7207
05:40:14,448 --> 05:40:16,620
As a kid in the
80s, I was constantly

7208
05:40:16,620 --> 05:40:19,310
in and out of hospitals.

7209
05:40:19,310 --> 05:40:22,000
Watching horror movies
and playing video games

7210
05:40:22,000 --> 05:40:23,172
was a release for me.

7211
05:40:24,344 --> 05:40:26,241
Basically, I'm the
kid on the box art,

7212
05:40:26,241 --> 05:40:28,000
and on the posters.

7213
05:40:29,448 --> 05:40:32,724
I'm so proud to be part
of this incredible journey

7214
05:40:32,724 --> 05:40:35,655
through 80s horror that is
the "In Search of Darkness"

7215
05:40:35,655 --> 05:40:40,310
trilogy, and I just had to
immortalize it on my body.

7216
05:40:45,482 --> 05:40:47,000
I love it that we're done.

7217
05:40:47,000 --> 05:40:48,241
I love it.

7218
05:40:49,068 --> 05:40:49,931
Love it.

7219
05:40:52,896 --> 05:40:54,413
Enough is never enough

7220
05:40:56,862 --> 05:40:57,689
of the star.

7221
05:41:00,724 --> 05:41:01,551
Mm.