1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,320 [Tayla] Be kind. 4 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,960 Be a kind person. 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,040 That's the only message our parents had for us when we were growing up. 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 They didn't care about the trophies, about the awards. 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,880 They didn't care as long as I was happy. 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,440 As long as I was a kind person. 9 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,640 [Announcer] Please welcome from the Brisbane Lions, Tayla Harris. 10 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,680 [Broadcaster 1] Tayla, one of the best key forwards in the competition. 11 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,800 [Broadcaster 2] Tayla Harris, what a game she's having. 12 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,720 -[boxing bell dings] -[boxing announcer] Round One! 13 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,200 [Broadcatser 1] Looking at this, because Harris is going to work against... 14 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,680 [boxing announcer] New Australian middleweight champion! 15 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,680 [Tayla] I don't know what I expected with life becoming so public, 16 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,880 but I thought if you just try to be kind, people will be kind back to you. 17 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,640 The world doesn't necessarily work that way. 18 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,200 [Commentator 1] The big story-- and we should talk about this because it is 19 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,800 what has been dominating headlines-- and it is of course Tayla Harris 20 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,600 on the hunt for a third AFLW club. 21 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,000 [Commentator 2] Obviously she's a very good player. 22 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,240 [Commentator 3] She was a very good player. 23 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,120 [Commentator 2] What do you mean "was"? 24 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,720 [Commentator 3] I don't think she's a very good player any more. 25 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,560 [Commentator 4] Because a lot of people said she didn't have a great season. 26 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,280 [Commentator 1] She sat down with the club and said, "I wanna be up front. 27 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,800 I had a below average season." 28 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,320 [Commentator 5] The great players handle pressure, and the pressure that's 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,080 being placed on Tayla is massive. 30 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,800 [Journalist 1] This one picture of Tayla Harris has sparked a storm of controversy. 31 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,560 Online trolls who targeted women's star, Tayla Harris. 32 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:17,920 Sexist, derogatory comments. 33 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,640 [Newscaster 1] Enough is enough of these trolls. 34 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,400 [Newscaster 2] This is just ridiculous. 35 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,920 Pulled down the statue. Burn her on a stake. 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,360 [Tayla] Realistically, I shouldn't really care what they think. 37 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,320 I'm human too, so of course it gets to me sometimes. 38 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:40,920 I know what they say. 39 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,760 They tell me everyday I'm overrated, overpaid, 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,760 just some girl who got lucky with a photo. 41 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,640 But they have no idea who I really am. 42 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,440 [strains] Hnn-yah. 43 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Fuck. It looked yuck. 44 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Leg days are never, never pretty. 45 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:16,560 Can we do it again? 46 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,680 Every time I do a big one, I end up going bang. 47 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Okay. Here we go. 48 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,080 [strains] Hnn-yah. 49 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,320 [straining] 50 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,400 [laughing] 51 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,480 That was just as ugly. 52 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,520 -Yeah, I think I could do more. -Oranges? 53 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,400 -Yeah. -Yeah? 54 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,280 [Tayla] I think people have expectations, of course, of athletes, 55 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,200 and I think often it's forgotten that we're human. 56 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Like, for example, this season, 57 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:50,440 I haven't played at all to my-- my standard that I put upon myself, 58 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,360 but I've certainly got back to that point where now my absolute only obligation 59 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,560 is to play good footy and to be a good boxer. 60 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,280 With boxing playing its role because of course the physical benefits of 61 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,640 boxing and boxing training are clear, and so they're always gonna help footy. 62 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Which is why my two sports go so hand in hand. 63 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,480 [Faris] I've been working with Tayla since various start in 2015. 64 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,920 She came out of nowhere, comes to the gym, 65 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,600 I start having fights with her, 66 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,960 and, like, I'm holding the mitts for her and, like, I can feel the impact. 67 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,880 I'm like, "what's this?" 68 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,640 In the fight, when you hold, 69 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,560 -wait for my reaction. -Okay. 70 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,360 Her first fight she won by stopping the other girl. 71 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,320 Like, literally, she broke her nose. 72 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,080 I knew she was hitting hard, but I wasn't expecting that. 73 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,600 Well, she might have broke her nose, but she'd be apologetic about it too. 74 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,360 She'd be horrified that she's done that, because that's-- that's in her nature. 75 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,720 When she first started, she was saying, "Well, I don't like to hurt people. 76 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,000 I don't like to hit people." And then-- but she's evolved on that. 77 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,000 She understands it's part of the sport she's in. 78 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,760 [Broadcaster 1] Tayla smells blood in the water. 79 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,200 [Brian Amatruda] Now she's two-time Australian champion, 80 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:04,120 and she's rated #3 in the world. 81 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,280 I suppose why does two people-- one succeeds, one doesn't? 82 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,560 One's got a bigger drive. 83 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,120 And she's got a bigger drive than anybody I know. 84 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,600 [Tayla] Lessons from boxing. 85 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Once something happens, and it doesn't necessarily go your way, 86 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,400 there is no time to dwell on it 'cause the next punch is coming. 87 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,440 And if you don't get out of the way, you're gonna get knocked out. 88 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,080 And [indistinct] service. 89 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,880 Come on, come on. Hello? 90 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,160 [gasps] Hi, Beansy. 91 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,600 Go Laine, go. 92 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Go Elaine! Go Elaine! This is me and my coach, Faris. 93 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,200 So that was when I won my Australian title fight-- the second one-- 94 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,960 and when I lost 10 kilos for the fight and I thought I was gonna die. 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,480 It was such a strange feeling. 96 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,840 He described it as driving a new car. 97 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Like, you just... don't know how it works, don't know how the controls work. 98 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,720 I'll never forget. I've never felt... 99 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,760 or seen anyone literally put belief in you. 100 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,680 And if it was a movie, it would be one of those movies 101 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,560 where they, like, zoom in on the brain 102 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,840 and then it's, like, going through all the brain cells. 103 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,480 And then it's like an explosion-- bang-- and then come back out. 104 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,960 You can win this fight. Like, you are going to win this fight. 105 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,080 And so I was like... 106 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,160 "Okay," and then I went out and knocked her out. 107 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,760 So in Brisbane I have a memory box-- 108 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:35,680 or it's all, like, newspaper clippings and whatever else-- 109 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,640 but I keep one here as well. 110 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,120 Mostly for Mum, I guess. "Dear Tay, a quick letter to... 111 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,760 "to you and the girls at Carlton FC 112 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:50,400 "about the controversy pic of you kicking for goal in the recent game. 113 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,280 "The boys here say great accuracy and amazing pick. 114 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,080 "You so hot, babe, and look like you could have been anyone, anything. 115 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,280 Keep going, babe. Kick it to me. LOL." 116 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,760 Ohh that-- he's quoting the comments 117 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,840 [laughing] Honestly. They send me these. 118 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,200 But I think I should read this one. This is from someone in prison. 119 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,160 This is from someone... 120 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,120 "[indistinct] and the boys in Wallaroo Corrections." 121 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:28,760 Hello and welcome to Channel 9 news. Today Tayla Harris is filming. 122 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,320 [Tayla] I had a very fun and, you know, easygoing childhood. 123 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,880 My next door neighbour and I would often hang out. 124 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,360 We'd ride bikes, we'd film little home movies. 125 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,840 For whatever reason, I was really into infomercials, 126 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,560 and I think that was my destiny. 127 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,160 [both] "Oh, what a feeling. Toyota." 128 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,080 [Tayla] I reckon I was Sandra Sully for a while as Tracy. 129 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,640 We have breaking news. Here is Tayla Harris. 130 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Hi, I'm Tayla Harris Breaking News. Today a Pelican has... 131 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,080 [Lisa] Tayla, what are you doing? 132 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Give us the video camera. 133 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Oh no. Oh no! Shut it down! 134 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,240 The funniest thing of them all-- the footage that I found of me doing 135 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,800 a Colgate ad when I was 12 years old. 136 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,400 It's legitimately, "Colgate." 137 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,240 "Colgate Triple Action, 138 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,280 triple the power, triple the action." 139 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,080 Mmm, refreshing. 140 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,760 [Tayla] I loved growing up in Brisbane. 141 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,920 We had a backyard, trampoline, 142 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,800 pool, kick the footy everywhere-- like, nothing fancy. 143 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,960 Nothing rich. No mansion. 144 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Didn't really need phones. Didn't have an iPhone or anything. 145 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,240 Just go out and ride our bike for 20 kilometres, or something ridiculous, 146 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,040 and then get home before the street lights come on. 147 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,040 [Lisa] When Tayla was five, she started to do AFL with Jack. 148 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,080 It was because I used to take Jack to his training, 149 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,360 and I'd have to sit in the car with Tayla. 150 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,880 But she didn't like sitting in the car. 151 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,080 [Warren] Then one day did they come up short one game, 152 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,840 so she's running around going, "Put me on, put me on." 153 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,840 So, they stuck her in a jersey at five, 154 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,520 threw her on the field, and she's never really come off since then. 155 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,680 [Tayla] Dad and Mum remind me it was a bit challenging for them as parents, 156 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,480 because other parents would comment to their young boy, 157 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:13,440 "Don't touch her. You're not allowed to tackle or hit girls or smash her. 158 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,560 She shouldn't be here." 159 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Some took it the wrong way. Some parents didn't like it. 160 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,960 You'd hear 'em say, "This is not fair to have a girl," 161 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,320 and "The boys don't know what to do with her," 162 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,400 and that type of stuff. 163 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,600 And you know, the opposition team eventually sort of figured out 164 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:28,120 that she was there to play, and if they didn't do their job 165 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,440 and keep her under control, she was just going to run away with it, which she did. 166 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,360 There's just a couple of Tayla's trophies that she's collected. 167 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,240 There's cupboards of them. 168 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,120 And then that's all her medals on that side. 169 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:46,720 Oh, here we go. 170 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:53,440 She was the first ever girl to be allowed in the AFL in the whole of Queensland. 171 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,000 So, she was first, and she was 12. 172 00:09:59,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Yes! 173 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Come on, let's go. 174 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,160 I'm gonna play like a Collingwood player. 175 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Being in a boys competition with Tayla and being at the level 176 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,000 that she was. Because she was-- she was better than a lot of the boys. 177 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,040 I think-- I think that football was the one that was on the table 178 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,920 at the best and fairest when she won the Division One boys' best and fairest. 179 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Pretty sure that's the one. Because she started a football so young, 180 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,080 I think football was what she wanted to do when she grew up. 181 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,400 There was definitely support for women's game 182 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,240 from the women themselves, who had been pushing for this for decades. 183 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,640 At the elite men's level, half our spectators were women, 184 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,680 um, but they are under-represented in area. 185 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,600 Every area, including, clearly, participation. 186 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:54,040 So AFLW is about redressing that. 187 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,880 [Mike Fitzpatrick] All right, good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 188 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,600 Thank you for being here today for what is truly a defining moment 189 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:01,280 in the history of Australian football. 190 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,920 The attitude of those that built it was our train is now leaving the station. 191 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,160 It's express. If you're on the train, jump on now. 192 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,840 [Reporter 1] The AFL today launched a national eight-team Women's League. 193 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,120 [Mike Fitzpatrick] Today we are joined by 194 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,560 some of the best players our game has to offer. 195 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,880 [Reporter 2] So Tayla, we had some very exciting news on Friday that you were 196 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,480 the first marquee player to be signed to the women's inaugural team. 197 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:24,600 How excited are you? 198 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:26,600 I'm very excited for everything that's happening. 199 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:28,760 It was one of those moments where we were all just like, 200 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,080 "Oh God, this is happening. Like, it's-- it's real. 201 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,160 It's-- AFL Women's is a thing, and it wasn't just the day before." 202 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,960 [Warren] The Lions actually signed her 203 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,280 before even the contract was supposed to be announced. 204 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,880 They wanted it that bad that they basically came out and said, "Sign this." 205 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,320 So, we just knew from that moment that that was going to 206 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,440 change everything, and it really did. 207 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,920 [Tayla] I had been at the Lions for their first season from 2017 208 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,360 until the following year, so I was there for six months. 209 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,320 [Broadcaster 1] Tayla Harris, putting the icing on the cake for Brisbane Lions... 210 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,800 And she does! Brisbane win here at Fremantle AFL. 211 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Well, we won all our games except for the one that we should have won, 212 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,680 which was we lost by six points in the Grand Final. 213 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,200 [Broadcaster 1] Fifteen seconds. 214 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:25,880 Brisbane need to get numbers to the contest. Can Harris get there? 215 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,800 -[whistle blows] -Crows win! 216 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:39,560 The Adelaide Crows are the first AFLW premiers. 217 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,200 [Tayla] It was amazing to be part of the first Grand Final, 218 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,320 but yeah, wasn't there for very long. 219 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,360 During the game, it's just-- I'm playing for the Lions, so that's who I'm gonna be. 220 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,160 I'm gonna give my all for the Lions, so it's gonna be good. 221 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,080 Tayla originally signed with the Brisbane Lions as a marquee player, 222 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,760 and the marquee player is normally the best player in the team. 223 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,440 Fairly historic day with the announcement of the Brisbane Lions 224 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,720 first ever two marquee players for the National Women's League. 225 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,080 [Tayla] Oh, it was a strange process to be seen as this marquee player or whatever, 226 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,520 'cause I was just some random kid. 227 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,760 Like, it was-- it was weird. I was 17. Like, I had no, 228 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,560 you know, manager. There was no fine print read. 229 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,360 So, Tayla was used as a poster girl, 230 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,000 pretty much, for the Brisbane Lions. 231 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,640 [Broadcaster 1] High ball. Harris ca-- oh, wow! Then delivers. 232 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,040 [Tayla] In my first season with Brisbane, 233 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,720 I was heavily scrutinised because people roasted me 234 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,080 for never smiling and never singing the song. 235 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,080 I was, like, "What do you mean? Like, I'm always smiling. 236 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,160 I'm with my best mates. Like, I'm playing footy." 237 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Unfortunately, I also actually then chose to move to Victoria 238 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,400 the year after, so I probably solidified people thoughts. 239 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,680 And now every step I took or everything I did was judged. 240 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,320 [Warren] It was a bit of a tough time, because she was sort of struggling 241 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 with where she wanted to be at that stage. 242 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,080 [Broadcaster 1] Terrific goal. 243 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,560 [Warren] She had a lot of good friends and good people in the Lions 244 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,640 that she, you know, looked up to. She knew that the next step in her career 245 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,000 had to be down south. 246 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,640 [Broadcaster 1] Here's Harris one-on-one with Gamble. 247 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,680 And Tayla Harris stands up when needed for the Lions and takes a strong grab. 248 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,240 There was a lot of commentary around her wanting to come to Melbourne 249 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,240 to be a hot shot player that wanted to be famous and everything like that, 250 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,640 and that was absolutely not the case. 251 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,040 It was more the environment of probably having a lot 252 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,080 of pressure on her at the time. 253 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,760 Brisbane did not want me to leave. 254 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,840 That didn't help. 255 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,440 She was very close with Craig Starcevich, her coach. 256 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,680 [Tayla] Yeah, Craig Starcevich was my coach 257 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,520 through under-eighteen's Queensland team, 258 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,000 and then he was the coach of the Brisbane Lions. 259 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,080 So, yeah he he was cool. 260 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,840 He was like a father figure, I guess. 261 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,680 And unfortunately, when it came to 262 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,160 sitting down with Craig and telling Craig about her decision, 263 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,240 it was really tough. 264 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,520 She was really emotional about it because she had been fully invested in that club. 265 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,760 It was pretty difficult. It was one of the most challenging things, 266 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,120 because I just didn't want to disappoint him. 267 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,560 And he took it quite personally. 268 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,600 [Broadcaster 1] Just inside the Brisbane camp, 269 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Coach Starcevich wouldn't be too happy about that. 270 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,120 [Tayla] But no one's going to look out for your best interest more than you. 271 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,520 And in reality, as soon as you're retired or injured, it's all over. 272 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,120 A footy club has no, you know, no real... 273 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,480 loyalty to you, so if there's moments in your career 274 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,240 that you have to make a decision even though it's hard or even though 275 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,000 it's not gonna please many people, I just believe you have to do it. 276 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,560 You know, when she jumped ship to go to Carlton, 277 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,200 then, you know, that brought out the worst in a lot of people, too. 278 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,400 [Tayla] I didn't think it would be such a shit storm, but it was. 279 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,480 I didn't think people would care, but they did. 280 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,040 Trolled on social media, a lot of direct messages at the time. 281 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,040 You know, just things like, "Oh, you're a traitor." 282 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,560 And yeah, oh, "She's shit anyway," and whatever. It's like, whoa! 283 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,440 I said it was a compliment that people cared so much that I was moving on 284 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,440 to a different club, and they decided to let me know how shit I was anyway. 285 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,160 Before every training, I write in my little book of fat dogs. 286 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,880 As you can see, this dog has eaten too many meals. 287 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,840 Um, but I write training focuses. 288 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,960 I do a couple of mental, a couple physical. 289 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,880 And then after training, I write out of five how I think I went, 290 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,840 and then I write a little comment. 291 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Often, I think before training. 292 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 I'll be like, "Oh, it'd be nice to have a good session today." 293 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,080 When I write stuff down, obviously, 294 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,880 it forces you to actually think about it more than half a second. 295 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,520 To be honest, I probably didn't do it cause 296 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,680 people would think, oh, it's a bit overboard. 297 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,880 You know, a bit overkill. Like school when people would, 298 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,320 "It's too cool to do that sort of stuff." 299 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,680 Incidentally, I maybe did think that, but... 300 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,720 Not any more. 301 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,680 It was during the trade period. We got a call from Alex, Tayla's manager, 302 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,160 and just said, look, things are stalling a little bit with the discussions with-- 303 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,960 with Carlton, and would we be interested in in catching up 304 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,080 to potentially explore some opportunities if things don't progress? 305 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,720 Yeah, it wasn't something we were planning for or we were prepared for, 306 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,880 but it was certainly something-- an opportunity we didn't want to miss. 307 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,400 [Daisy Pearce] We first met 2012. 308 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,520 I played in her team, you know, in a representative team, 309 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,800 and she would have been like 14. So, I've known her over the years. 310 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Awesome having her as a part of our team. 311 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:50,320 I was so excited when the opportunity to trade her in came up over the off-season, 312 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,880 because I see her as someone who has achieved a bit and has a lot of talent 313 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,640 but I don't think she's playing at her full potential yet. 314 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,720 So that challenge of, yeah, get her in, and, as a leader, try and get 315 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,520 the most out of her. That really excited me. 316 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,800 She always does things with a big heart. She just wants to play. She always has. 317 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:15,600 Well, she doesn't like the limelight as much as she keeps finding herself in it. 318 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,960 She doesn't like having the accolades, so she's always trying to transfer that. 319 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,240 But you know, when there's times where she'll have to handball, 320 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,040 we want her to handball. But if she's within range, 321 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,720 I want her to go back and have a shot. 322 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,640 [Mick Stinear] The hopes for this season is, uh, 323 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,160 that we're there on that last day and be good enough on the day to-- 324 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,240 to win our first premiership. 325 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,480 [Tayla] Hello, Melbourne! Is everybody having a good time tonight? 326 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,640 Tonight there will be five-dollar basics at the bar until 9:00 PM. 327 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,800 [indistinct] 328 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,320 We just got a message from... 329 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,320 Mick Stinear, the Melbourne coach. Mick said, "How bloody good 330 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,680 "watching the boys in the Grand Final. Do me one favour tonight 331 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,160 "and picture yourself in the red and blue and on the biggest stage in our game. 332 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,720 "We know what it takes. 333 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,320 "And in an uncertain world, we can be certain about one thing. 334 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,040 "We will earn the right to compete in next year's Grand Final, 335 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:12,560 "and we will execute on the biggest stage, and you'll forever be remembered 336 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,040 as the first ever Melbourne team to win an AFLW premiership. Go D's!" 337 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:17,920 Go Tigs! 338 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,400 [Broadcaster 1] Good bounce. 339 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,680 So, once I got confirmed that I was gonna go play at Melbourne Footy Club, 340 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,640 it went from this uneasy, sort of unsure feeling-- 341 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,960 obviously, not knowing where I was going, what I was going to do-- 342 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,320 to just-- I was so excited. Like, I was so excited to... 343 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,200 to be back at Mel. And I can say "back in Melbourne," 344 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,680 'cause that's where I played my exhibition games for this. 345 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,840 That was my very first interaction at an AFL Footy club. 346 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,520 Tayla hates the camera. 347 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,400 This what pressure feels like on the footy field, is it? 348 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,760 Trying to get rid of it? 349 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,160 [Broadcaster 1] Benny Brown... 350 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,640 [Tayla] Benny Brown! 351 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,560 Yay! Whoa. 352 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,240 [Broadcaster 1] Long ball. Picking up the back. Petraca! Petraca! 353 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,080 [Tayla] So I ended up finding my home at Melbourne 354 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,920 on the basis that I can come on a one-year contract with absolute minimum payment. 355 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,400 No additional staff, no media shit. 356 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Just go and play and train and prove myself and earn respect 357 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:22,320 just from my teammates who don't know me and all they've read is that 358 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,960 I want all this money and I want, you know, I'm a diva of some sort. 359 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:28,360 [chanting] Go D's! Go D's! Go D's! 360 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,120 [Tayla] I think I found the love for football again. 361 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,240 Like, it feels great to be... I guess I have a clean slate. 362 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:37,880 Ah. Look. Look. 363 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,440 [Broadcaster 1] Every heart is beating true and blue for the red and blue. 364 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,080 After 57 long years, The Demons are premiers in 2021. 365 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,520 Extraordinary stuff. 366 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,920 [cheering] 367 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,600 [singing fight song] 368 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,600 You sing that song. 369 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,800 [muffled horseplay] 370 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,280 [Friend] Knock me out, please. 371 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,640 Oof! 372 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,480 [Kodi] The first time I met Tay was... 373 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,720 at a cafe. Me and Grace Egan were actually having a coffee 374 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,200 with one of the coaches from Richmond, and Tay walked past, 375 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,360 and Grace, like, nudged me and she's like, "Just be nice. Like, she's-- 376 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,040 she gets a bit awkward sometimes. Just be nice to her." 377 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:27,520 It was in the midst of COVID. 378 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,920 And then a few weeks later we led into our round one. Richmond's first year. 379 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,040 So, Richmond versus Carlton at IKON. 380 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,960 I love the game, so if I'm gonna put someone off, I'm gonna put someone off, 381 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,120 whether that's talking to them, bumping them. 382 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,400 I was talking a bit of smack to some of her players, 383 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,920 and she didn't like it at all. 384 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,040 So there's Tay-- 385 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:50,480 she's streaming along the side of the Oval, and I ended up picking up the ball. 386 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,560 And I didn't know who it was at the time, and I just copped 387 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,480 the biggest clothesline of all time. And I get up. I was all tough. 388 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,040 I was like "Who's-- who was that?" 389 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:01,360 One of the girls was like, "Tay Harris," and I was like, "Oh. Cool." 390 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,080 I was like, "I'm not..." and just walked off. 391 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,720 Go again. 392 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,560 [Tayla] Kodes and I are a little team. 393 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,840 And we love when our friends say, "Oh, we love you guys together," 394 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,000 and like, "You guys bring out the best of each other. 395 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,640 And we're-- both of our immediate response is "We know." 396 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,240 When you're training with someone that you look up to, who motivates you, 397 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,480 who you, I guess certainly in terms of running, aspire to be like, 398 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,600 you do it because you want to make them proud, 399 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,400 because no one else is going to see it. 400 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,680 Mick, our Melbourne coach, is not going to see the session I did 401 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,360 six months ago at the local footy field. 402 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,320 The Kodes is the only one. 403 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,920 It was pissing with rain, and our feet feel like ten kilos. 404 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,960 But we still got through and we still worked hard and pushed each other through. 405 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,000 Here comes our conehead. Watch her cone. 406 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,720 [laughing] She's a little conehead. 407 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,560 My sweetie. 408 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,000 Her feet. 409 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,800 Oh. I can't. Oh my God. 410 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Oh my God. 411 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,680 She had no idea what she was going in for. 412 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,600 [Kodi] 2021 off-season has been probably my most productive, 413 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,040 which sounds weird because it was COVID. 414 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:25,960 Me and Tay moved into a new house, got a new puppy. 415 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,880 We really want to put our heads down and bum up and work, 416 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,720 and one of the major things that we want to get better at was our fitness. 417 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,880 Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Nice. 418 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,960 And it's a new team. She wanted to-- she wanted to impress people. 419 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:45,520 She's a tall blonde girl with tattoos who boxes, who plays footy, 420 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,280 who's known to be quite tough and resilient, but like, she gets to it. 421 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,400 So what, did you think you wanted to put the ears next to "kind"? 422 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,880 or do you want to keep that spacing or what do you think? 423 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,520 Maybe. What do you think? Will that make it too cramped? 424 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:04,640 "To be kind is powerful." 425 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,080 This is going to tickle this one. 426 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,120 Yeah, I think this kind of is more... 427 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,840 Bang. Bang! 'Cause then when I punch someone in the face, 428 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,920 it's like, bang, kindness. 429 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,800 Yeah, that's like that. [laughing] 430 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,600 Well, this one is Elizabeth. 431 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:28,080 That I got recently. And I actually got it because there's a bit of controversy, 432 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,360 as per usual, about me, and like, changing clubs and all that sort of stuff. 433 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,600 And one of my really good ment-- close mentors, 434 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,520 he said, "I need you to read an article about how the Queen goes about things. 435 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,120 You never hear her complaining." So, it's not so much about her. 436 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,080 It's more about the mantra that she adopts, 437 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,840 which is never complain, never explain. 438 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,280 Context is the devil according to the media. 439 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:56,640 Like, I've had things end up in the newspaper printed and I'm reading it 440 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,840 right in front of me on a piece of paper, but it couldn't be further from the truth. 441 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,800 And it's laughable because, you know, you-- what are you gonna do? 442 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,840 You laugh or cry. 443 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,680 You know, it's just unfortunate that with the AFLW coming 444 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,640 into prominence, that these players have to manage a whole new 445 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,040 realm of complexity when it comes to their online profile. 446 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,600 Many of these young women are just out of school, 447 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,280 but they are being thrust out there in the limelight. 448 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:31,360 They're expected to have an online profile, and inevitably 449 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,160 they're going to come up with some form of abuse. 450 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,680 Okay, let's go. 451 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,760 In my career I've-- Look, I've had my fair share of sexism 452 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,080 and comments and remarks, and even just stereotypes 453 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,440 of what is a female sports body or female sports person. 454 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,480 Being in a big club, people just, like, wanting your blood pretty much. 455 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,360 It's brutal. 456 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,320 When I joined the Commission, I received hate mail and had a whole lot 457 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,440 of guys from the footy world and the sports world 458 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,960 throwing everything they could at me to say how outrageous it was 459 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,040 that a woman dared to step into the man's world of managing footy. 460 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,560 And that's been certainly challenging in my time. 461 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,280 It's not physically in any way challenging. 462 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,000 It's emotionally and mentally challenging. I've been playing footy for. 463 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,760 I've been playing footy for, you know, 16-17 odd years, 464 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,600 and week-in week-out trying to defend yourself 465 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,160 and showcase or prove yourself and showcase that you are worthy enough. 466 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,080 It's-- can be really tiring. 467 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,320 Yeah, when I don't play well, obviously, it's-- you know about it 468 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520 and I'll get messages. 469 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,240 You know, how shit I am, and I'll get told I'm, you know, 470 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,240 a waste of space. But you know, I try to take it in my stride. 471 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,960 [Broadcaster 1] Harris, those long extended arms. 472 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,960 And she takes the mark in front of Ernst, 473 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,200 and she'll go back and have a set chop because she's a thumping kick. 474 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,080 [Lisa] We were down at the game. 475 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,960 We were watching the game, and she kicks the way she normally kicks. 476 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,200 So, it was no big deal seeing the kick, because that's how Tayla kicks. 477 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,680 [Broadcaster 1] Tayla Harris with that very familiar approach 478 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,720 and that very familiar finish. 479 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,080 Tayla's always been renowned for her kicking style, 480 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,440 even when she was a young girl up in Queensland playing. 481 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,320 So, any time Tayla has a shot on goal, I always shoot it. 482 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Just so happened that particular kick she absolutely launched. 483 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,440 It was a spectacular kick. It was like a 55 meter drop punt. 484 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,240 I saw the photo, and the first thing I thought was wow. 485 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,120 You know? 486 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200 Actually my groin hurt, my knees hurt, everything hurt, 487 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,000 in seeing her in the pose that she was in mid-flight. 488 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,200 Yeah, I think when I first saw the photo, I was like, "Oh my God, 489 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,320 she's incredible. Like, this is my teammate. This is my friend." 490 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,400 You looked at it and think-- you know, you see the height, 491 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,360 she's off the ground-- the athleticism in the whole photo. 492 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,000 I wish I could straighten my leg like that when I kicked, but I could never do that. 493 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,440 [Maddie Prespakis] I just thought that's just the iconic Tayla moment, 494 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,240 and that's Tayla Harris in a nutshell in a photo, basically. 495 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,960 You know, to see how incredible it was... 496 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,480 it just-- it blew my mind that people would take it to a place 497 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,440 that they took it. 498 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,040 And in Australia right now, this one picture of Tayla Harris has 499 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,240 sparked a storm of controversy. 500 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,520 [Lisa] So, yeah, some of the things were pretty foul. 501 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,040 Calling her everything under the sun that you can think of and... just awful. 502 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,480 Like really, really awful. 503 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,440 [Tayla] From, like, graphic, disgusting, like, things, 504 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,280 people alluding to what they'd do to me, 505 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,320 or this, like, sexually and all this gross shit. 506 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:52,000 And also, she had private messages sent to her that were ten times worse. 507 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:58,640 One I remember was someone photoshopped as if I wasn't wearing the shorts, like... 508 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,880 and that makes me want to throw up. 509 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,280 A lot people don't realise how far that went. 510 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,040 A lot of people will just look at it and go, "Oh, yeah, get over it." 511 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,760 You know, "Toughen up. It's only, you know-- 512 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,720 It's just a few people saying silly things." But it wasn't. 513 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,560 It went beyond that. It went to threatening. 514 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,600 You can't get your head around how awful and mean-spirited people can be. 515 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:25,040 I had a call from the Prime Minister, and they said, "Have you seen what, 516 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,920 "you know, what these people are saying about Tayla Harris? 517 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,200 And what are you doing about it?" 518 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,080 The AFLW star, Tayla Harris, has found herself at the centre 519 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,080 of an online storm this morning. 520 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080 It's all because of an inspiring photo of her in full flight 521 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,680 during Carlton's win over the Bulldogs. 522 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,720 Now, when it was published, the image was bombarded with hurtful, 523 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960 sexist, derogatory comments. 524 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,680 [Warren] She hides her emotions pretty well. 525 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,480 I know that that got to her. 526 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,480 When you see someone like Tayla 527 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,080 that's so up and about and all the time and she's always smiling. 528 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,840 And to sort of see her get shut down the way she got shut down 529 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,160 was pretty disheartening. 530 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,360 I think it it showed how toxic people can be. 531 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,080 And it's probably made her a lot more guarded. 532 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,880 [Warren] To know that somebody was out there saying those sorts of things 533 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,080 or threatening those sorts of things, 534 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,960 if we had to turn up the next day at the club, um, 535 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,920 we had a security guard meet us at the gate to walk us in. 536 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,720 Tayla had to have a security guard meet her at her car. 537 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,760 [Tayla] I connected the dots that perhaps these people might turn up 538 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,040 at the footy at that weekend. 539 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Or they might already be in the crowd. What if they were? 540 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,960 What if they tried to lean over the fence and take things next step? 541 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Anyone-- wouldn't matter if you're a young girl 542 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560 or a grown man-- you know, someone starts threatening you, 543 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,840 you're gonna start looking over your shoulder and think, 544 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,120 alright, is someone here meaning to do me harm? 545 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,560 [Faris] She's the first to do a lot of things. 546 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,800 She's the first female boxer to, like, two titles. 547 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,400 She's young, and to have all this attention on her can be hard. 548 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Some people will support you... 549 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360 but some people are going to, like, try to take you down for no reason. 550 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,760 Because where she's going, she's doing things that, like, nobody's done before. 551 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,800 That some people's gonna be happy. Some people are gonna be jealous. 552 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,920 I think you're naturally, like, a nice person, 553 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,520 you know, but once your opponent hits you, your face change. 554 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,480 I like this face because you, like, so competitive. You like-- 555 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,400 Get like, "Okay, it's on. Now we got a fight." You know? 556 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,040 [Tayla] This is my biggest fear of the whole scenario-- 557 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,400 a young girl thinking and dreaming of being an AFLW player sees the sort of shit 558 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,720 that I have to deal with and thinks, oh, maybe I don't wanna do that. 559 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,080 Because of this unnecessary bullshit. That's what gets me. 560 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,360 Well, fans and the AFL have hit back at online trolls who targeted 561 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,560 women's star, Tayla Harris, over this brilliant image of her in full flight. 562 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,160 The AFL is promising to hunt down and punish trolls. 563 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,240 The now famous image is being used to take a stand against online bullies 564 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,760 and stamp out online trolls. 565 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,920 [Alex Saundry] Through the entire night, 566 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000 I had breakfast radio and breakfast TV calling me non-stop. 567 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,240 I think I fielded over-- 568 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,760 I tried to count the other day-- about 287 media requests 569 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,040 in the short space of under 24 hours. 570 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,560 BBC, New York Times. 571 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,960 It just went absolutely gangbusters across the globe. 572 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,160 Tayla herself has posted the picture on her own Instagram page saying, 573 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,720 "My hamstring is okay, but derogatory and sexist comments aren't." 574 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,520 We decided a good idea would be to go on Daniel Harford, 575 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,920 our coach's, radio show in that morning. 576 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,680 It would be a safe place for her to have that conversation. 577 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Weren't trying to get a gotcha moment, not trying to grab headlines out of it, 578 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,880 but just let her talk. 579 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,800 The comments that I saw were sexual abuse, 580 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,560 if that's-- if you can call it that because it was repulsive... 581 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,600 -[Daniel Harford] Yep. -...and it made me uncomfortable. 582 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 So, as soon as I'm uncomfortable with something like that, 583 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,120 that's what I would consider sexual abuse on social media. 584 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,320 She was 22, and I can't think of too many 585 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,520 22-year-olds that would have been able to compartmentalise all that noise-- 586 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,560 external noise-- and be able to deliver a message that she 587 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080 thought was a powerful as anything needed to be said at the time 588 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,080 and then go ahead and play a game of footy on the weekend. 589 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,960 There's not too many people capable of doing that. 590 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760 And that's where she just got in front of the camera and said, 591 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,600 "Right-o. Now that's enough. 592 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,360 You know, it's time that we put an end to this." 593 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,760 [Alex Saundry] Tayla stood up and spoke of how she felt. 594 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,920 It wasn't the AFL telling her how to feel. It was Tayla telling us how she felt. 595 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,720 If I'm not gonna say anything, then what about the people who 596 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,560 don't have the platform to do it? 597 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,920 Tayla had to stand up for herself and people had to have a think about things 598 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,560 and realise how wrong some people could be and how horrendous some people can think. 599 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,440 Victoria police, whatever it is, need to at least 600 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,080 contact these people, or some sort of warning, 601 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,200 Facebook delete them. Something needs to happen. 602 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,120 She stood up for herself and she shut it all down. 603 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,840 And, um, I think, yeah, that itself was pretty inspiring. 604 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,080 Enough is enough of this trolling. 605 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,000 This is just ridiculous. People carrying on... 606 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,360 It's got to stop. 607 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,880 [Newscaster 3] Tayla Harris has called those responsible, "animals." 608 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,120 [Newscaster 1] "This is me at work. 609 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,360 Think about this before your derogatory comments, animals." 610 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,320 Our Tay is standing up, yes, but we need Twitter to stand up. 611 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,560 Block these people. Delete them off. 612 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,640 [Tayla] No, I think the timing of this particular scenario 613 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:35,160 was what it was meant to be. 614 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,040 I was in a position mentally where I was in a really strong place. 615 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,440 If this happened to someone who wasn't, perhaps, 616 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,920 in such a strong mental space, that would be pretty scary. 617 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,600 But as much as I was in the photo and I was the one who said 618 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,680 some stuff in front of the cameras and things, 619 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:58,920 in reality, it was a massive army and band of people that created that movement. 620 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,320 Tayla's willingness to stand up against the online abuse 621 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,440 was a watershed moment. And together with other watershed moments, they serve to 622 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,800 change community sentiment about violence against women and about online abuse. 623 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:18,320 And here we are, 18 months or so later, and there are big changes happening 624 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,000 in our community because young women like Tayla are speaking up. 625 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,000 That's what's happening now with Grace Tyme and Shanelle Kontos. 626 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,240 And what's happening in Parliament House 627 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,840 is it actually takes courage and bravery, usually from young women 628 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,040 that actually serve to change community sentiment. 629 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,520 [Newscaster 1] Thousands of people came and stood outside Parliament House today, 630 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,440 wanting to be heard. 631 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,240 There is a confronting 632 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,880 sense of banality about sexual violence in our community. 633 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,760 We know that abusive hate speech is escalating. 634 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,280 [Newscaster 1] Within a week, more than 5,000 young people 635 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,120 have come forward with testimonies 636 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,880 of sexual assault by students at schools. 637 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:05,160 I find it incredibly disappointing that you need to have multiple women's voices 638 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,440 to be heard before they're taken seriously. 639 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,040 The system is broken. The glass ceiling is still in place. 640 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,640 It's about an ongoing systemic oppression that we're trying to end. 641 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,280 That's okay. Do a right. 642 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,080 Yeah. 643 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,280 -Under now. -Nothing. 644 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,400 One more? 645 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,520 Under now, yeah. And rest. 646 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,720 Two more. 647 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,560 -Nice! Good job. -Fuck me. 648 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,600 [giggles] Good job. 649 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,840 Well, I got a text from a young girl's dad asking if I wouldn't mind 650 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,200 chatting to her about her school assignment, but... 651 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,600 it's about AFLW, so I said, "of course." 652 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:17,360 -[Asha's Dad] Say hi to Asha. -[Asha] Hi. 653 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Hi. "Ash-uh," is it? 654 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,840 [Asha] "Ah-sha." 655 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,440 Asha, nice to meet you. How are you doing? 656 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,720 [Asha] Um, good, thank you. Thank you for, um, helping me out. 657 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,800 -I really appreciate this. -My pleasure. 658 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,880 [Asha] Is there anything that you take from the rude comments and harassment? 659 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,600 Yeah, well, I think something I've learned since I've been exposed to it all is that 660 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,160 these people that are commenting, 661 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:45,360 it's actually them projecting their issues as opposed to 662 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,480 them highlighting any issue that the female athletes might have. 663 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,720 We're just trying our best. We're just trying to play and, you know, 664 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,240 and entertain people like we're supposed to do on the footy field. 665 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,960 And it's not-- 666 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,680 you know, it's not appropriate and not necessary for people to get online 667 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,400 and say such horrible things. 668 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:05,160 So, sometimes you get tempted to read it and believe it, 669 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:09,240 but the reality is it's actually not necessarily what it first seems. 670 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,280 [Asha] That definitely, um-- 671 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,800 not even just for this project, but just in general-- 672 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,040 was very inspiring, and it definitely 673 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,040 gave me insight on the whole issue. 674 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,040 Oh, thank you. Any time. And if you have any other questions or anything else... 675 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,280 so if, you know, wanna catch up now that we can get out of lockdown soon, 676 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,960 we can go for a kick or something. 677 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,120 Um, that'd be fun. 678 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,600 [Asha's Dad] Thank you for taking the time out. 679 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,120 No, my pleasure. Have a great afternoon, talk soon, bye. 680 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,800 -Done. -Good job. That was really good. 681 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,320 -She was smarter than me. -[chuckles] Yeah. 682 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,920 [Broadcaster 1] Contested forward 50 for the Blues. 683 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000 Harris in the middle of that pack. 684 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,240 [Tayla] So, I played at Carlton footy club for four years. 685 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,880 For three years, it was great. I loved everything out of the programme. 686 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,880 I have and have made some of my best friends 687 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,600 being at the footy club. 688 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,200 So in overall experience, it was great. 689 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680 In my final year at Carlton, things, 690 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,040 for various different reasons, kind of fell apart in a sense. 691 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,480 Of course, COVID impacted everybody in different ways, 692 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,280 um, and impacted the way that their general persona was. 693 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,040 So, you could feel that certain people, including myself, 694 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,480 at the club weren't themselves. 695 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,360 [Alex Saundry] Season 2021 was a really unique one for Tayla. 696 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,920 I think at the end of the season 697 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,920 we we sat down, and she knew then it wasn't her-- 698 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,720 her best year. She wasn't physically there. 699 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,960 But more importantly, she wasn't really mentally there. 700 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,840 It was really tough for Tayla to realise she wasn't at her best, 701 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,760 because we knew what her best was. 702 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:46,760 Twelve months ago she was a three-time all-Australian, 703 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,400 three-time leading goal kicker. 704 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,240 Throughout conversations with the club, 705 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,840 that was a really prominent discussion-- 706 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,480 understanding the change in her form. Um, and they were really 707 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,960 honest conversations with the club. 708 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,920 I felt really confident that we would get a deal done, 709 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,600 probably up until my last phone call with the club. 710 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,960 I've got goosebumps talking about it, because I just remember 711 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,960 having the conversation with her. 712 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,440 We're in Sydney at an event, and it was a great day. 713 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,880 She calls me and says, "Can you meet me in the hotel room?" 714 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,120 "Yeah, I'm coming." You know, thinking what could it possibly be. No big deal. 715 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,600 Went up to the hotel room, asked everyone to leave 716 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,240 and we'd meet them at lunch later and... 717 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,400 She's like, "You might wanna sit down." 718 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,040 And I was like, oh, what's happened? 719 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,760 Like, thinking something like, horrific has happened. 720 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,760 Sit down, she's like, "Carlton are not gonna offer you another contract. 721 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,880 They don't want you any more." 722 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,960 And she just broke down in tears. 723 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,240 And for me to see someone as strong as Tay... 724 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,960 feel that in that moment-- that disappointment, 725 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,800 that heartbreak, that upset, that she was losing 29 of her best mates, 726 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,480 um, that was something totally out of her control-- 727 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,600 it was just like her world was falling apart. 728 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,840 And it was at that point that we knew that it was going to be public, 729 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,920 and that was what was really scary about it. 730 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,400 [Newscaster 1] Well, she's one of the most pivotal figures in the AFLW. 731 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600 There was an intriguing article in the Herald Sun today 732 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:16,880 which stated that Harris is asking for about $150,000 to play in the 2022 season. 733 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,120 We wonder if there is more to the story. 734 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,080 [Newscaster 2] Tayla Harris, on the hunt for a third AFLW club. 735 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:29,160 Contract talks in the last week or so have now broken down with the Blues. 736 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:30,560 [Radio Reporter] Daniel Harford, you need to come in on this, 737 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,440 because there is a suggestion that Tayla Harris, 738 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,840 one of the superstars of the AFLW, will no longer be a Carlton player. 739 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,040 The report said that Tayla and Carlton have not been able 740 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,320 to come to terms and that she is now 741 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,840 being told to go and look for another club. 742 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,160 [Daniel Harford] Well, she's taking that option to look for another club. 743 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:51,760 Yes, it's been a bit of a difficult negotiation, 744 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,480 clearly, for this one-- for us and for Tay, 745 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,760 'cause you gotta put it all together and make sure you've got your reward 746 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,640 for all your players who are deserving of those things through the journey. 747 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,440 And Tayla's had, um, 748 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,920 certainly some reward for her efforts through the campaign so far. 749 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,360 But as played out in the-- 750 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,440 well, it was the story last week, I think it was? 751 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,320 It's just the gap was too big. 752 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,000 We haven't been able to find common ground. 753 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,120 [Alex Saundry] It was pretty laughable, 754 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,440 and I remember reading the article and just going, 755 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,040 "How has this gotten so far out of context? But where has this come from?" 756 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,160 And we were probably really disappointed at the time. 757 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:29,440 [Todd Patterson] The truth is quite different to what gets publicised. 758 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,960 And the media speculation around her pay packet was 759 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,480 so wildly incorrect, I couldn't believe it. 760 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,520 The conversations we had with their management, 761 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,880 the numbers were a long way away from what was being mentioned. 762 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,760 Disappointing is probably the best word, 763 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,560 because I-- like, I-- in every sense of the word-- 764 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,040 I was committed to staying at Carlton and playing at Carlton 765 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,680 and doing everything I can for Carlton. 766 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,880 I have a tattoo. I've got a Carlton tattoo. 767 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,160 Like, if that doesn't say much, then I don't know what does. 768 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,880 [Newscaster 1] Starting over at the red and blue has been a welcome change 769 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,600 after her departure from Carlton was sullied by pay negotiations 770 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,200 and talk that Harris wanted too much. 771 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,120 [Commentator 1] My view is that Tayla was an excellent player. 772 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,120 But she's not that player that she was, 773 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,160 but still wants to get paid the way she was. 774 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:18,040 [Commentator 2] Well, you need to perform. 775 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,480 [Commentator 1] So, maybe it's a fresh start is what she needs, 776 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,440 and she then bounces back to be the player she was. 777 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,240 Money is not an-- not a thing for me. So, for that to be part of the narrative 778 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,280 was more frustrating than anything else because it 779 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,640 was attacking my character, which was just far from the truth. 780 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:37,920 And for that to be... 781 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,280 used as clickbait, it was much more frustrating 782 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,600 than anything else I've been through. But I felt like after a discussion with-- 783 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,840 I guess my team, my management team-- 784 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,800 we decided that it was a much bigger and more important conversation to be had. 785 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,600 And that was, of course, that women deserve to be paid more. 786 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:08,560 We still live in this world where men sport attracts more eyes on the telly. 787 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,560 It attracts more dollars into the kitty to make it sustainable 788 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,000 and to pay the big bucks for players. 789 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,480 'Cause at the moment, the game is only held back 790 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,840 by the fact that these are amateur athletes 791 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,120 who are expected to play as elite athletes. 792 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,880 Isn't Tay usually in front of the camera? 793 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,280 [Tayla] Hi, Daisy... 794 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,880 this is my new career-- wedding celebrant, boxer, footy player, camera woman. 795 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,480 Wow, you're incredible. 796 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,440 [Brandon Jack] I sometimes forget this is only the 6th season of the AFLW. 797 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,960 So, that's-- I think the most games that a player could have played 798 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,360 is still under 40, and the competition's grown quite fast. 799 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,520 But I think the female players want more. 800 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,320 They want to be full time athletes, and I think that... 801 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600 it's hard to see that coming, you know, next year. 802 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,760 These girls want everything that the boys want when they play. 803 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,000 There's a stigma around us women having to be grateful 804 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,600 for the opportunity that we get. 805 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,080 We're here to take this serious. We wanna be professional. 806 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,840 We wanna get paid for it. Like, we're not here to just 807 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,840 play because we love the sport. Yeah we did that. 808 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,720 [Sam Mostyn] If these women were training at the same rate 809 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,600 and paid in a kind of equivalence 810 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,440 to the professional men, this would be the best footy in the country. 811 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,000 These are women who are doing it part-time on shit money, 812 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,440 and they've got full time jobs and they effectively self-support themselves. 813 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,160 [Tayla] We're kind of pushing on our ceiling at the moment. 814 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,320 And, like, there's players who are just exceptional, and you kind of think, 815 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,680 jeez, imagine if she was really, like, training full time. 816 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,160 Well, she could be, which is a pretty amazing thought. 817 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,000 And it just kind of takes that leap of faith, I suppose. 818 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,320 [Reporter] It's been a fairly interesting two years for the world. 819 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,080 Um, just tell me how good it's been to have free back 820 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,960 and how you set them into life as a day. 821 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,920 We've had a pretty massive few years, 822 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,480 myself and everyone else in the whole world, 823 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,920 which is a pretty crazy thought. 824 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,560 I've tried to, you know, move faster as much as I can on a personal level. 825 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,360 And I just cannot wait for round one, because the last thing people remember 826 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,600 remember is the last thing you did. So, I'm looking forward to 827 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,480 the day I can step on the field, and you know, give my best. 828 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,920 The thing I'm most excited about, though, is Christmas. 829 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,880 If the border's open, going to see Mum and Dad, 830 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,480 and I haven't seen them in obviously a fair while. 831 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,600 But yeah, family is massive for me, so I can't wait to get up there. 832 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,800 In my life, pretty much everything's going great. 833 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,720 The one thing that I would love to tick off before the end of the year 834 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000 is to see my parents and my family. 835 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:34,280 [Reporter indistinct] 836 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,240 Thank you. 837 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,720 [Tayla] I moved from Brisbane to Melbourne on the precedent 838 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,680 that I could always go back. Only a couple years later, 839 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,160 that ability to go back to be taken away-- 840 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,320 I could never have imagined that was going to happen. 841 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,280 [Tayla] Hi, hello. 842 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,760 [Lisa sobbing] Hi. It's been too long. 843 00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,560 Hi, [indistinct] 844 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,280 How are you, sweetie pea? 845 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,040 Good. How are you? Why are you crying? 846 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,480 Disappointing. [laughing] 847 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,760 We've missed you so much. 848 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,640 Miss you too. 849 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,680 [Alex Saundry] I think the Tayla that I saw in 2020 was just a completely 850 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,360 different version of someone that had everything taken from her. 851 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,640 There's my Kodi. 852 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,080 She understands that everyone was in a similar boat, but for her it was family, 853 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,480 it was her work, it was her passion, it was her drive, it was everything. 854 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,160 If you lay it out, like, when you take away everything from someone, 855 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:38,720 everything that someone loves, family or even just ability to see family, 856 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,600 sport, football, work. 857 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,840 So, like I've had challenges that I've had to kind of overcome, 858 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,080 and they've kind of played out and I've been able to rely on people, 859 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,760 get advice, work it out as I go. 860 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,280 It wasn't so dramatic, and it didn't take everything away. 861 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,480 COVID did. And then not only that. 862 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,600 Like, seeing people around me suffer much more. 863 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,480 At the time, it was really hard to... 864 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:05,280 I guess buy into complaining or buy into, like, feeling it, 865 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,040 because the person potentially next to you 866 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,760 doesn't even have family or something along those lines. 867 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,680 And then so, I kind of, like, pigeon-holed myself thinking, "It's not so bad. 868 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:21,240 At least I still have my family, just a FaceTime call away." 869 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,280 I should never have played. Like, I should never have been able to take the field, 870 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,040 because I was fucked. But I did, and so I could be happy with that. 871 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,960 But then I guess getting back to your question about 872 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,400 the Carlton fall out, I guess we can call it. 873 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,840 Um, yeah, I think I was definitely hurt by the way that it unfolded. 874 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,920 But I also very much understand that football is absolutely a business, 875 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,960 and if you don't think it is for even a second, you're silly. 876 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,920 Um, and then as soon as things go to shit a bit, you're out. 877 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,960 And that's literally what happened. 878 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,400 And so, yeah, obviously I didn't play very well. 879 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,560 and then, um [choking up] ...cause for... 880 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,560 I think, 'cause-- So, they-- Oh, fuck's sake. 881 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,160 I love you. 882 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:16,040 Love you. 883 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,880 [Lisa] She was very fragile coming out of COVID. 884 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,320 She likes to put off this 'I'm really tough. 885 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,280 I don't need anybody' persona, 886 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,040 and that's what is out there in the media. 887 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,440 'Look at me, I'm-- I can handle anything.' 888 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,160 I think deep down, she is sooky for her family. 889 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,280 [Lisa indistinct] 890 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,680 After the boats right here. Have to avoid them. 891 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,360 [Lisa] The fact that she couldn't come home, that she couldn't see us-- 892 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,120 I think that really shook her. 893 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,680 Oh, it's so, so pretty. 894 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,320 Oh, so pretty. 895 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,000 [Kodi] Oh, beautiful. 896 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,920 Oh, it's nice. 897 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,040 [Lisa] Is it nice? 898 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,920 Very nice. 899 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,120 [Tayla] This is the Morten Island sand dune, or Tangalooma sand dune, 900 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,600 and since I can remember since I was really little, 901 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,240 we would run up, throw ourselves down. There we go again, up and down, 902 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,240 and it's just like-- it's like a ritual. Every time we come here we have to do it. 903 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,160 We bring new people. Kodi came for the first time last year. 904 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:57,440 And then you just... sacrifice into the sand. 905 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,440 This almost exact time last year I was in a completely different headspace. 906 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,920 I had just experienced the full impact of lockdown. 907 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,040 I remember being here and thinking, oh, I've gotta go back next week. 908 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:34,360 Back to lockdown, start training, and I'm not feeling fit enough. 909 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,320 And I wasn't at a level... 910 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,800 where I felt confidence coming into pre-season, 911 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,560 because this year is the complete opposite. 912 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,760 Like, I've never felt fitter. 913 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,720 It takes a long time to gain, but it takes nothing at all to lose. 914 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,360 [indistinct horseplay] 915 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,160 Okay. I'm done. 916 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,720 Rarrrr! 917 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,840 [indistinct] yet the outcome we want is the best opportunity to score, 918 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,280 which is that deeper entry.