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<c.white>GIGGLING
<c.white>Hello. Hello?

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<c.white>Hello? Testing, testing, testing.

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<c.yellow>It's good.

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<c.yellow>Sound, camera, we are
<c.yellow>rolling whenever you want to go.

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<c.white>OK. Sorry, two seconds!

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<c.white>I do this every shoot!
<c.white>I'm overcome with giggles!

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<c.white>It just takes me a couple of minutes
<c.white>to compose myself.

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<c.yellow>Take as long as you need.
<c.yellow>You don't have to explain yourself.

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<c.white>I don't know why. Oh, God!

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<c.white>SHE EXHALES
<c.white>OK.

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<c.white>SHE EXHALES REPEATEDLY

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<c.yellow>Here, think about
<c.yellow>why you're doing this.

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<c.white>My name is Lyra McKee.

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<c.white>I'm a freelance journalist
<c.white>from Northern Ireland.

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<c.white>You may know me as the face
<c.white>of The Muckraker,

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<c.white>a blog about
<c.white>investigative journalism.

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<c.white>My passion in life is
<c.white>for investigative journalism.

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<c.white>But I came into the industry
<c.white>at a time when

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<c.white>there didn't seem to be any places
<c.white>left for people like me.

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<c.white>Someone who wanted to go off
<c.white>and chase a story for months

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<c.white>and ask questions and find answers

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<c.white>and try and find out what was really
<c.white>going on beneath the surface.

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<c.white>I really need your help.

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<c.white>I need more time to keep
<c.white>asking questions.

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<c.white>DISTANT SIRENS WAIL

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<c.white>REPORTER: <c.cyan>In the last half-hour,
<c.cyan>there have been reports of

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<c.cyan>a serious disturbance
<c.cyan>in Londonderry.

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<c.cyan>There are reports that the trouble
<c.cyan>broke out after police raids

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<c.cyan>on houses in the Creggan
<c.cyan>area of the city.

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<c.white>FAINT CHATTER

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<c.yellow>Lyra and I, we'd been out
<c.yellow>doing our usual.

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<c.yellow>We've gone to Slimming World
<c.yellow>and then we'd gone to McDonald's.

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<c.yellow>And a message comes through
<c.yellow>about rioting in Creggan.

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<c.yellow>Our friend saying she's going up

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<c.yellow>if anybody wants to go up with her.

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<c.yellow>So we went up.

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<c.cyan>It was holy Thursday night,
<c.cyan>the night before Good Friday,

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<c.cyan>and we had a mass
<c.cyan>here in the church.

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<c.cyan>As we were coming to the end,
<c.cyan>my colleague, Father Paul Fraser,

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<c.cyan>send word to me to say, will you
<c.cyan>tell the people not to be going up

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<c.cyan>Fanad Drive, there seems to
<c.cyan>be a riot up there.

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<c.cyan>Literally 200 yards up
<c.cyan>the road from the church.

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<c.white>SOUNDS OF RIOTING

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<c.white>TANNOY: <c.lime>..move back down the street.

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<c.white>RAUCOUS LAUGHTER

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<c.white>GLASS SHATTERS

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<c.yellow>We drove up and the streets
<c.yellow>were really jammed,

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<c.yellow>cos everybody was off
<c.yellow>to watch the riot.

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<c.white>RAUCOUS CHATTER

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<c.yellow>There were loads of people.

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<c.yellow>Lots of kids.

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<c.yellow>Journalists.

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<c.white>YELLING AND BANGING

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<c.white>GLASS SHATTERS

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<c.white>JEERING

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<c.white>FLAMES ROAR

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<c.white>TANNOY: <c.lime>Stay away from the vehicle
<c.lime>for your own safety.

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<c.lime>Get back, get back!

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<c.yellow>We were only there for eight minutes
<c.yellow>from start to finish.

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<c.yellow>We were sort at the back end
<c.yellow>of the last set of two Land Rovers.

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<c.yellow>Lyra has gone into journalist mode,

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<c.yellow>so she was, like, taking pictures

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<c.yellow>and she was typing on her phone,

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<c.yellow>and we didn't really talk very much.

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<c.yellow>Then I thought, right,
<c.yellow>we'll move back up a wee bit.

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<c.yellow>Cos there was stuff on fire

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<c.yellow>and they were throwing
<c.yellow>petrol bombs and stones.

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<c.white>YELLING

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<c.white>FLAMES ROAR

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<c.yellow>We'd moved further back

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<c.yellow>and the crowd started getting
<c.yellow>really agitated, and, like,

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<c.yellow>"Y-o-o-o-o-o-o!"

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<c.white>ANGRY YELLING

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<c.white>GUNFIRE RINGS OUT

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<c.white>ANGRY SHOUTS

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<c.white>GUNFIRE CONTINUES

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<c.white>GLASS SHATTERS

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<c.white>FLAMES ROAR

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<c.yellow>I turned to Lyra to say,
<c.yellow>let's move up further,

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<c.yellow>cos I think they're going to rush
<c.yellow>towards the Land Rovers,

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<c.yellow>and she wasn't there.

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<c.yellow>Lyra! LYRA!

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<c.white>FRANTIC YELLING

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<c.yellow>She was on the ground.

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<c.white>YELLING AND PANICKED CHATTER

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<c.white>MAN YELLS

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<c.yellow>I dropped down and then
<c.yellow>I noticed the wound on her head.

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<c.white>FRANTIC YELLING

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<c.white>SIRENS WAIL

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<c.yellow>The police took her into the back of
<c.yellow>the Land Rover.

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<c.yellow>I was like, "Can I come with you?"

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<c.yellow>And they were like,
<c.yellow>"Listen, there's not enough room".

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<c.yellow>They literally tore off and went

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<c.yellow>straight through the burning car,
<c.yellow>and...and flew.

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<c.white>SIREN WAILS

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<c.yellow>And I was kind of just standing
<c.yellow>there. I had her phone in my hand

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<c.yellow>cos I'd lifted it from the ground
<c.yellow>where she'd dropped it.

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<c.yellow>And...I was just covered.

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<c.yellow>My hands were covered in her blood,
<c.yellow>and...I-I didn't know what to do.

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<c.white>SIGHS DEEPLY

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<c.cyan>I was just about to get ready
<c.cyan>for bed and my mobile went.

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<c.cyan>It was the police.

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<c.cyan>They said that a woman
<c.cyan>had been injured

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<c.cyan>and a priest was asked
<c.cyan>to attend the scene.

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<c.cyan>So I came down into the room

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<c.cyan>and what I saw was
<c.cyan>the face of a child.

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<c.cyan>And Lyra's face will never leave me.

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<c.cyan>Um...it was the face of a child
<c.cyan>that was...

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<c.cyan>..29-year-old, but...

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<c.cyan>..Lyra never looked 29-year-old.

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<c.cyan>Such a beautiful,
<c.cyan>beautiful child, dead.

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<c.cyan>And why?

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<c.lime>Some breaking news - a 29-year-old
<c.lime>woman has been killed

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<c.lime>after shots were fired
<c.lime>in Londonderry.

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<c.cyan>Her name was Lyra McKee.

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<c.cyan>She was a 29-year-old
<c.cyan>acclaimed writer and journalist.

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<c.yellow>Journaliste du 29 ans, Lyra McKee...

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<c.lime>Her murder happened
<c.lime>on the 21st anniversary

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<c.lime>of the Good Friday Agreement.

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<c.lime>That's the landmark peace deal

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<c.lime>that put an end
<c.lime>to Northern Ireland's

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<c.lime>decades-long sectarian conflict.

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<c.cyan>Police blame the so-called New IRA -

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<c.cyan>a violent,
<c.cyan>dissident republican group

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<c.cyan>whose supporters do not believe
<c.cyan>in the Good Friday Peace Agreement

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<c.cyan>that was signed 21 years ago today.

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<c.lime>The police have now confirmed that
<c.lime>witnesses to the murder

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<c.lime>of Lyra McKee will
<c.lime>be offered anonymity.

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<c.yellow>Detective
<c.yellow>superintendent Jason Murphy says

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<c.yellow>any information could be vital.

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<c.cyan>Oh, my God.

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<c.cyan>Oh, my God!
<c.cyan>Mummy still has her dress!

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<c.cyan>Look how tiny!

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<c.cyan>Oh, my God.

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<c.cyan>She hated that dress!

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<c.cyan>Oh, bless! Oh, my God!

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<c.cyan>Oh! Thank you!

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<c.lime>Oh, isn't this mad?

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<c.cyan>You'd need a whole house to
<c.cyan>house at all, you know?

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<c.cyan>We can't keep everything.

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<c.cyan>But there's loads
<c.cyan>and loads of things.

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<c.cyan>She loved her moleskin notebooks,
<c.cyan>loved them.

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<c.cyan>Here's all story leads that
<c.cyan>she's written down,

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<c.cyan>so ideas of stories that she could
<c.cyan>continue to pursue.

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<c.cyan>There's literally hundreds of them.

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<c.lime>Have you kept her
<c.lime>Dictaphone as well?

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<c.cyan>Do you know, I found that as well.

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<c.cyan>Here, with Lyra, you just never know
<c.cyan>when a story might pop up,

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<c.cyan>so she always had it with her.

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<c.cyan>So it's lovely to be able
<c.cyan>to play it and...

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<c.white>RECORDING PLAYS, INDISTINCT

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<c.cyan>..and listen to her voice.

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<c.cyan>It kind of makes it feel like she's
<c.cyan>still here and with you, you know?

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<c.white>RECORDING PLAYS, INDISTINCT

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<c.white>So, you were there that day? <c.lime>Yeah.

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<c.cyan>The way she got people to speak to
<c.cyan>her and open up to her,

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<c.cyan>it's wonderful.
<c.cyan>She had a real, real gift for it.

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<c.cyan>She really wanted to understand the
<c.cyan>past and to change things.

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<c.cyan>And, you know, where many people's
<c.cyan>voices were ignored,

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<c.cyan>she wanted to say,
<c.cyan>actually, do you know what,

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<c.cyan>I hear you and I care
<c.cyan>and I'm going to be a voice for you.

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<c.cyan>It's a wee box.

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<c.cyan>Little one we had.

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<c.cyan>Are you ready for it?

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<c.cyan>One of the things my mummy
<c.cyan>kept a lot of

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<c.cyan>was glasses belonging to Lyra.

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<c.cyan>You can see, this is a pair she had
<c.cyan>when she was very, very tiny.

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<c.cyan>And she was so small and her
<c.cyan>features were so tiny,

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<c.cyan>that they wouldn't sit on her face.

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<c.cyan>So she had to have
<c.cyan>these little rubbery things

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<c.cyan>that would hug around her ears
<c.cyan>so that they would stay on.

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<c.cyan>That was a pair she probably wore
<c.cyan>when she was about four years old.

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<c.cyan>This is the glasses that
<c.cyan>she was wearing

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<c.cyan>on the night that she was killed.

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<c.cyan>And she'd only got them
<c.cyan>two weeks before she was killed.

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<c.white>SHE EXHALES

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<c.cyan>Why did you do it?
<c.cyan>Why did you do it?

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<c.cyan>You know, even
<c.cyan>my wee granddaughter...

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<c.cyan>..you know, four years old,
<c.cyan>coming five...

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<c.cyan>..even the four-year-old
<c.cyan>wants to ask that question.

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<c.yellow>You're getting dizzy, Lyra.

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<c.cyan>Lyra, put her down!

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<c.white>Was that OK? OK?

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<c.lime>Yeah, they were obsessed with
<c.lime>each other.

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<c.lime>That was lovely.

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<c.white>THEY LAUGH

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<c.cyan>What would you say to the bad man
<c.cyan>who killed your Auntie Lyra?

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<c.yellow>I want to say,
<c.yellow>why did you kill my Auntie Lyra?

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<c.cyan>You want to know why,
<c.cyan>don't you, chicken?

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<c.yellow>Mm-hm. I don't know why.

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<c.cyan>I don't know why either.

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<c.white>SHE SIGHS

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<c.white>LYRA:

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<c.white>You know, I think there's truths
<c.white>and there's narratives.

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<c.white>The truth is what actually happened

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<c.white>and the narrative is
<c.white>what everyone thinks happened.

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<c.white>And the two are rarely the same.

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<c.white>I'm trying to piece together
<c.white>what happened.

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<c.white>You're coming with me on the journey
<c.white>as I try to find answers.

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<c.white>TV NEWS: <c.yellow>A Catholic man has been
<c.yellow>shot dead tonight in north Belfast.

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<c.yellow>The attack happened in
<c.yellow>the Ardoyne area of the city.

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<c.cyan>He was shot dead
<c.cyan>in a part of Belfast

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<c.cyan>where a fifth of all those
<c.cyan>who have died

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<c.cyan>in Northern Ireland's Troubles
<c.cyan>have been killed.

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<c.white>I grew up in Ardoyne,

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<c.white>a republican community
<c.white>in north Belfast

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<c.white>in the '90s,
<c.white>on the Cliftonville Road.

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<c.white>The people were mostly
<c.white>decent people,

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<c.white>but it was a tough, tough place.

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<c.white>Cliftonville Road was just off
<c.white>a place called Murder Mile.

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<c.white>That was the nickname.

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<c.white>In fact, they say there's more
<c.white>casualties there per square mile

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<c.white>than any part of Northern Ireland
<c.white>during the conflict.

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<c.white>I remember things as a child,
<c.white>like, you know,

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<c.white>just be careful
<c.white>when you're walking to school.

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<c.white>OK, there's a suspect device
<c.white>on Rosapenna.

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<c.white>I often tell Americans that
<c.white>if you've seen images of Belfast

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<c.white>on fire in the '90s,
<c.white>you were probably seeing Ardoyne.

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<c.white>TV NEWS: <c.yellow>Northern Ireland has seized
<c.yellow>the chance of a new beginning.

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<c.yellow>That's the outcome of the historic
<c.yellow>agreement reached this evening

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<c.yellow>at the Stormont peace talks.

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<c.white>BASS GUITAR PLAYS
<c.lime>This is for the fucking scum

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<c.lime>paramilitaries
<c.lime>that run this fucking country!

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<c.white>TV NEWS: <c.cyan>The violence which has been
<c.cyan>part of life in Northern Ireland

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<c.cyan>for nearly 30 years
<c.cyan>may be over permanently,

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<c.cyan>following last week's peace deal.

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<c.yellow>After a 30-year winter of
<c.yellow>sectarian violence,

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<c.yellow>Northern Ireland today has the
<c.yellow>promise of a springtime of peace.

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<c.lime>Today is Good Friday,

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<c.lime>and I think, for the people
<c.lime>of Northern Ireland,

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<c.lime>it will be a very good Friday.

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<c.cyan>Yes, 71.12%.

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<c.white>JUBILANT CHEERING

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<c.lime>71% of people in the North
<c.lime>and 94% of the South

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<c.lime>said yes
<c.lime>to the Good Friday Agreement,

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<c.lime>which aims to bring peace
<c.lime>in Northern Ireland.

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<c.yellow>108 members of the new
<c.yellow>Northern Ireland Assembly

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<c.yellow>have taken their seats in
<c.yellow>the Stormont Parliament building.

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<c.cyan>Enemies across three decades
<c.cyan>now face each other

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<c.cyan>across the floor
<c.cyan>of their own political forum.

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<c.lime>It's up to the local politicians
<c.lime>to make this peace agreement work.

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<c.white>CHEERING

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<c.white>I sometimes get angry,

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<c.white>because we talk about the conflict
<c.white>ending in 1998,

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<c.white>but I think the peace we have
<c.white>is a peace that doesn't disrupt

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<c.white>the lives of the middle classes.

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<c.white>For the working classes,
<c.white>you know, they're still struggling.

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<c.white>I mean, in the community
<c.white>that I came from,

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<c.white>there's a real poverty of vision.

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<c.white>We didn't seem to have
<c.white>any prospects.

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<c.white>I even remember in primary school,

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<c.white>perceiving that there was
<c.white>a difference in how the middle class

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<c.white>treated the working-class kids.

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<c.white>So, when a working-class kid says,
<c.white>you know, "I want to be a lawyer",

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<c.white>they're told,
<c.white>"Get back in your station.

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<c.white>"You're not going to be a lawyer,
<c.white>you're going to be a glue-sniffer."

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<c.white>I literally heard that said
<c.white>to people.

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<c.white>And I think that's the difference.

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<c.white>I was told to have ideas
<c.white>above my station.

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<c.white>MUSIC: Teenage Dirtbag
<c.white>by Wheatus

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<c.white>WATER SPLASHES

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<c.cyan>A-A-A-Argh!
<c.white>You weren't close enough.

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<c.white>WHOOPING

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<c.white>Yo! Huh-huh!

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<c.white>I'd always wanted to be a writer.

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<c.white>Even as a child,
<c.white>my granny used to buy me books.

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<c.white>My granny was this great character.

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<c.white>She was kind of like Hyacinth Bucket
<c.white>in Keeping Up Appearances.

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<c.white>I remember being six years old
<c.white>and Granny saying,

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<c.white>"You're going to be a writer".

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<c.white>And I was like, "No, I'm not,
<c.white>Granny. Why would you think that?"

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<c.white>She always had this in her head.
<c.white>And for my ninth birthday,

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<c.white>she said to me, "I got you two books
<c.white>for your birthday".

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<c.white>She said,
<c.white>"They're called Harry Potter".

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<c.white>And I swear, there wasn't a peep
<c.white>out of me after my birthday

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<c.white>for, like, in the month or something
<c.white>that I read those books.

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<c.white>I'll never forget,
<c.white>one day, I got this...

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<c.white>"Lyra, your granny's
<c.white>on the phone!"

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<c.white>"OK. Hi. What's up, Granny?"

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<c.white>"I just seen JK Rowling on the TV!

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<c.white>"She was really bad in school,
<c.white>just like you."

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<c.white>And I was like,
<c.white>"Really?! JK Rowling? Wow! OK."

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<c.white>And my granny would say,
<c.white>"And she's a single parent".

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<c.white>Cos I was from
<c.white>a single-parent family.

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<c.white>"And she didn't have any money,
<c.white>and look at her now.

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<c.white>"And you can be just like her."

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<c.white>It was the realisation that, OK,
<c.white>I can do this.

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<c.white>You know, I was so lucky.

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<c.yellow>Hello! Everybody here...?

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<c.white>This is Lyra McKee
<c.white>reporting for home videos.

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<c.white>If you can see me.

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<c.white>Goodbye!

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<c.white>My mum's amazing. She's great.
<c.white>I love my mum.

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<c.white>Are you camera-shy?

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<c.white>So, you're camera-shy?

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<c.white>My mum always said, "You can be
<c.white>anything you want to be".

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<c.white>My big sister as well.
<c.white>My big sister's amazing.

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<c.cyan># She's so lucky

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<c.cyan># She's a star

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<c.cyan># But she cry, cry, cries... #

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<c.white>She works with kids
<c.white>from deprived areas,

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<c.white>and she's an absolute hero.

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<c.white># Missing in her life

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<c.cyan># Why do tears come at night?

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<c.cyan># Hey! #

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<c.white>From my mum to my granny,
<c.white>to my big sister,

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<c.white>they were amazing.
<c.white>They were all amazing.

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<c.white>They believed in me
<c.white>when I didn't believe in me.

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<c.white>RADIO NEWS: <c.yellow>The paramilitary group
<c.yellow>the New IRA

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<c.yellow>has said it murdered the 29-year-old
<c.yellow>journalist Lyra McKee,

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<c.yellow>who was shot dead as she
<c.yellow>was observing a riot last month.

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<c.yellow>In a statement, the dissident
<c.yellow>republican organisation apologised

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<c.yellow>to her family and friends.

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<c.lime>How are you feeling, you two?

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<c.cyan>I'm really nervous. <c.lime>Are you? <c.cyan>Yes.

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<c.cyan>It's almost like we're going to see
<c.cyan>our Lyra collecting an award,

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<c.cyan>in my head, kind of, in a way.
<c.lime>Yeah.

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<c.cyan>Rather than us going and getting
<c.cyan>an award on her behalf.

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<c.cyan>You know, that's what it feels
<c.cyan>like to me.

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<c.cyan>How about you, Mummy?

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<c.white>QUIETLY: <c.lime>Yes. Yes, love.

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<c.lime>Oh, goodness.

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<c.lime>With a heavy heart.

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<c.lime>As long as I don't start crying.

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<c.lime>I wasn't going to go.

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<c.lime>Cos I'm still so full up,
<c.lime>you know, with...

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<c.lime>..grief.

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<c.lime>And then I thought about it
<c.lime>and said, "No. It's for Lyra, so...

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<c.lime>"..I'll go for her".

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<c.lime>It's not sinking in that she's gone.

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<c.lime>You know what I mean?

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<c.lime>I still think that, um...

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<c.lime>..that she'll be running in
<c.lime>the door and...

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<c.white>SHE SIGHS DEEPLY

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<c.lime>So hard.

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<c.yellow>Yeah, I know.

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<c.lime>So, so hard.

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<c.cyan>Hello, Ramsay.

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<c.cyan>We'll not be long. Not be long.

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<c.yellow>On 18th of April this year,

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<c.yellow>headlines emerged that left us
<c.yellow>in disbelief.

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<c.yellow>A journalist, Lyra McKee,

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<c.yellow>going about her work in public,
<c.yellow>had been shot and killed.

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<c.yellow>Through her work, Lyra
<c.yellow>championed the underrepresented.

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<c.yellow>She gave a voice to those that
<c.yellow>weren't being heard,

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<c.yellow>and she held those in power
<c.yellow>to account.

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<c.yellow>Now, we are honoured that Lyra's
<c.yellow>mother Joan and sister Nichola have

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<c.yellow>travelled from Belfast to
<c.yellow>be here today,

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<c.yellow>at what is an incredibly
<c.yellow>difficult time,

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<c.yellow>but it is our privilege
<c.yellow>to present to you

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<c.yellow>the Journalists' Charity
<c.yellow>Special Award

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<c.yellow>for Outstanding Commitment
<c.yellow>and Contribution to Journalism.

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<c.yellow>This is for Lyra.

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<c.white>APPLAUSE

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<c.white>Hi. My name's Lyra McKee

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<c.white>and I work as
<c.white>an investigative reporter.

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<c.white>I think my priorities
<c.white>as a journalist

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<c.white>are quite different to
<c.white>most journalists.

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<c.white>Cos, I mean, you know,
<c.white>the latest celebrity news,

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<c.white>like, if I'm honest, I really don't
<c.white>care who Madonna has adopted next.

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<c.white>You know, I don't want to know
<c.white>about that.

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<c.white>Like, I want to know about,
<c.white>you know, how the...

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<c.white>You know, the young mother
<c.white>who's lost her son to suicide.

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<c.white>How does she feel? You know?

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<c.white>Like, I mean,
<c.white>the corrupt businessman

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<c.white>who's screwing the working classes
<c.white>unbelievably,

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<c.white>and no-one's holding him to account.
<c.white>You know?

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<c.white>And no-one knows about it.
<c.white>How do I break that story?

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<c.white>I want to know about real issues.

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<c.white>I am the most annoyingly curious
<c.white>person I know.

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<c.white>I remember my mum saying that some
<c.white>mothers say all they can hear in

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<c.white>their sleep is, "Mummy, Mummy."

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<c.white>She said all she could ever
<c.white>hear was, "Why, why?",

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<c.white>because apparently that was all
<c.white>I ever asked.

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<c.white>I mean, I can remember hearing on the
<c.white>news when I was fairly young,

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<c.white>like, about people being killed
<c.white>in the local area.

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<c.white>You would have thought most kids

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<c.white>wouldn't have paid attention
<c.white>to that stuff.

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<c.white>But I'd be like, "Mummy, why?
<c.white>Why? Why was he shot? Why...?

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<c.white>I just asked the
<c.white>most difficult questions.

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<c.white>I suppose my big break came
<c.white>when I was 16,

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<c.white>I won the Sky News Young
<c.white>Journalist of the Year Award.

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<c.white>Where I'm from in north Belfast,

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<c.white>at that point, suicide
<c.white>had reached epidemic levels.

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<c.white>It was something very close
<c.white>to my heart

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<c.white>cos a lot of my friends
<c.white>had tried to commit suicide.

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<c.white>I'd had to help a lot of them

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<c.white>through really difficult times,
<c.white>you know.

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<c.white>Like, they were almost dropping like
<c.white>flies around you, you know?.

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<c.white>Can I just set this right here,
<c.white>if that's OK?

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<c.lime>That's fine.

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<c.white>LYRA:

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<c.white>MIKE:

396
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,400
<c.white>LYRA:

397
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,320
<c.lime>Yeah.

398
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,040
<c.white>MIKE:

399
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,440
<c.white>LYRA:

400
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000
<c.lime>Yes.

401
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,680
<c.white>MIKE:

402
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,960
<c.lime>Lyra was certain that 30, 35 years
<c.lime>of conflict

403
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,200
<c.lime>had to have had an effect
<c.lime>on this society,

404
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,240
<c.lime>and she's absolutely right
<c.lime>about that.

405
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,080
<c.lime>I did a study of suicide rates
<c.lime>across the UK and Ireland,

406
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,640
<c.lime>looking at the period from 1998,

407
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,240
<c.lime>the year of the Good Friday
<c.lime>Agreement, and up to 2017.

408
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920
<c.lime>And what I found
<c.lime>was quite astonishing.

409
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,320
<c.lime>Everywhere else,
<c.lime>suicide rates went down.

410
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,320
<c.lime>But in Northern Ireland,
<c.lime>they rose sharply.

411
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,800
<c.lime>Here in Northern Ireland,
<c.lime>we'd asked people

412
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,600
<c.lime>a set of special questions
<c.lime>about their experience of conflict.

413
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,720
<c.lime>Do you know somebody close to you
<c.lime>that's been in prison?

414
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,240
<c.lime>Was your house ever raided
<c.lime>by the police or the army?

415
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,960
<c.lime>Had you witnessed violence?

416
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,040
<c.lime>Had you ever seen anybody murdered?

417
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,280
<c.lime>One of the things we were able
<c.lime>to observe is

418
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,400
<c.lime>that one in five children
<c.lime>are growing up

419
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,560
<c.lime>in a household with an adult

420
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,720
<c.lime>who has high-level experience
<c.lime>of the conflict.

421
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:48,080
<c.lime>High conflict experience means far
<c.lime>lower mental health

422
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,520
<c.lime>and far lower mental health
<c.lime>resilience.

423
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,800
<c.white>If you don't come from
<c.white>a working-class community,

424
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,040
<c.white>you aren't necessarily aware of
<c.white>what's going on in that community

425
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,440
<c.white>or the problems that they face.

426
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,160
<c.white>We need the people from that
<c.white>community

427
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,360
<c.white>to be presented and represented.

428
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920
<c.white>MALE VOICE:

429
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,560
<c.white>RADIO NEWS: <c.cyan>Police investigating the
<c.cyan>murder of journalist Lyra McKee

430
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,520
<c.cyan>have arrested four men
<c.cyan>in Londonderry.

431
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,240
<c.cyan>The men were arrested under
<c.cyan>the Terrorism Act this morning.

432
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,400
<c.cyan>Detectives investigating the murder
<c.cyan>have today renewed calls

433
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,680
<c.cyan>for the public to help them bring
<c.cyan>Lyra's killers to justice.

434
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,840
<c.yellow>This is a major development.

435
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,640
<c.yellow>It absolutely is, it's a
<c.yellow>major, major, major development.

436
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,720
<c.yellow>And...oh, wow.

437
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,200
<c.yellow>It's me,
<c.yellow>and I've got Alison with me.

438
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,400
<c.cyan>Will I get an extra one?

439
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,080
<c.lime>Oh, love you!

440
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,720
<c.cyan>So, Joan, how are you feeling?

441
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,120
<c.lime>I'm OK, I suppose.

442
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,000
<c.lime>I think if I wasn't a wee bit
<c.lime>unwell, I'd be all right.

443
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,240
<c.yellow>We've just been sort of
<c.yellow>sitting waiting.

444
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,760
<c.yellow>We like to say patiently but there's
<c.yellow>no patience about it.

445
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600
<c.cyan>I don't even know
<c.cyan>how I feel about it.

446
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,120
<c.cyan>You know? I felt, like, nothing,
<c.cyan>because they've taken her, you know.

447
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,600
<c.cyan>She's not coming back. And...

448
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,120
<c.cyan>It's OK.

449
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,680
<c.cyan>Lyra will make sure that
<c.cyan>there's justice. I know she will.

450
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:31,200
<c.cyan>She's going to make sure that
<c.cyan>the buggers go away for a long time.

451
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
<c.cyan>Yeah. <c.lime>You OK?

452
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,400
<c.cyan>Yeah. <c.yellow>We have to be positive.

453
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,000
<c.yellow>It's just nerve-racking, isn't it?

454
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,160
<c.lime>It is. It's a hard time.

455
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,560
<c.yellow>Your man, the Secretary of State
<c.yellow>at the time.

456
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,960
<c.cyan>Obviously, Lyra, like.

457
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,160
<c.yellow>Isn't that a beautiful photo?
<c.cyan>Lovely.

458
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,480
<c.yellow>Look at her wee face.

459
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,160
<c.yellow>She never aged a bit.

460
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,480
<c.white>Marie?

461
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,720
<c.white>Hello?

462
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,080
<c.white>Marie, please. I just want to eat
<c.white>the sandwich alone. That's all.

463
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,560
<c.white>All I want to do is eat a sandwich
<c.white>on my own

464
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,680
<c.white>without you trying to rip into it.

465
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,160
<c.white>Can you let me do that? Please?

466
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,600
<c.yellow>Meow! <c.white>No?

467
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,040
<c.white>LYRA SIGHS

468
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,200
<c.white>If I look back over the last three
<c.white>years, it's been really tough.

469
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,160
<c.white>You know, I don't often
<c.white>talk about this.

470
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,480
<c.white>I have anxiety disorder.

471
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,200
<c.white>Writing is like, almost...

472
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,000
<c.white>It's my great... One of my greatest
<c.white>loves, but also my biggest fear.

473
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,000
<c.white>I choke up. Like, I literally...

474
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,400
<c.white>I feel sick sometimes
<c.white>when I sit down at that computer,

475
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,360
<c.white>cos I'm like,
<c.white>"Oh, God, what's coming today?"

476
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,600
<c.white>It can cripple you, you know.

477
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,480
<c.white>I'm trying to get a publisher
<c.white>and I keep falling,

478
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,600
<c.white>you know, falling flat on my face,
<c.white>all of that.

479
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,640
<c.white>But you just keep showing up
<c.white>and you just keep doing the work.

480
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,320
<c.white>Do you know Sylvester Stallone?

481
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,880
<c.white>He was rejected
<c.white>1,500 times by agents.

482
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,120
<c.white>Rocky... Well, they told him
<c.white>it was soppy,

483
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,040
<c.white>it was rubbish, it would never work.

484
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,960
<c.white>And he said, "I wrote down
<c.white>everything they said

485
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,520
<c.white>"and I read it on the night
<c.white>of the Oscars when we won".

486
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,840
<c.white>And sometimes I think
<c.white>we need to be like Rocky Balboa.

487
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,200
<c.white>We need to keep fighting.

488
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,960
<c.white>We need to be like Sylvester
<c.white>Stallone. We need to not give up.

489
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,600
<c.yellow>She was always writing, even
<c.yellow>from whenever she was a wee kid.

490
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,240
<c.yellow>She wanted to be a poet,

491
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,040
<c.yellow>and then we joked that poets
<c.yellow>will always be alone.

492
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,200
<c.yellow>They'll always be alone
<c.yellow>and have no money.

493
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:57,120
<c.yellow>So she was like,
<c.yellow>"Fuck it, I'll be a journalist".

494
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,320
<c.yellow>Who wants to see a penalty?

495
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,080
<c.yellow>Yahoo!

496
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,560
<c.yellow>In your face, Michael Jordan!

497
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,480
<c.white>HE HOWLS

498
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,880
<c.yellow>Lyra, she's my auntie,

499
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,400
<c.yellow>but three years' difference
<c.yellow>between us.

500
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,880
<c.yellow>Three years and 18 days.

501
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,360
<c.yellow>They used to call us the twins
<c.yellow>because we were never separated.

502
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,840
<c.yellow>Lyra was the first person that
<c.yellow>I told directly that I'm gay.

503
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,640
<c.yellow>She was saying that it was all OK,

504
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,840
<c.yellow>and then she's like
<c.yellow>kind of half said something,

505
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,640
<c.yellow>you know, about herself.

506
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,200
<c.yellow>And it was like, the way she would
<c.yellow>always, like, talk about it,

507
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,040
<c.yellow>it always, like, played my head.
<c.yellow>It was like, I know.

508
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,160
<c.white>CONGREGATION SING

509
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,920
<c.lime>Lyra!

510
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,440
<c.lime>Come on, we want to get some nice
<c.lime>photos of you now, stop it.

511
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,920
<c.white>Religion still plays a massive role
<c.white>in this country,

512
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,280
<c.white>and the messages we constantly get
<c.white>from our public figures

513
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,960
<c.white>is that being LGBTQ is wrong.

514
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,960
<c.cyan>Can anything be plainer?

515
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,960
<c.cyan>God condemns homosexual and
<c.cyan>lesbian practices.

516
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,880
<c.cyan>It is perversion in his eyes.

517
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,920
<c.cyan>It is unseemly.
<c.cyan>It is against nature.

518
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,920
<c.cyan>Two lesbians living together
<c.cyan>are not a family,

519
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,720
<c.cyan>they are sexual perverts
<c.cyan>playing Let's Pretend.

520
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,600
<c.white>RADIO: <c.lime>A letter written
<c.lime>by a local journalist

521
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,880
<c.lime>to her 14-year-old self has been
<c.lime>getting a huge reaction online.

522
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,080
<c.lime>Lyra McKee hopes other young people
<c.lime>will take heart from her letter

523
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,080
<c.lime>and that some Christians
<c.lime>will think twice

524
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,400
<c.lime>before making negative comments
<c.lime>about members of the gay community.

525
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,480
<c.lime>Have you got this letter in
<c.lime>front of you?

526
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,200
<c.white>I do.

527
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:42,040
<c.lime>Maybe you can just read
<c.lime>the first paragraph or so for us?

528
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,280
<c.white>No worries.

529
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,920
<c.white>Kid, it's going to be OK.

530
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,480
<c.white>I know you're not feeling
<c.white>that way right now.

531
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,720
<c.white>You're sitting in school, the other
<c.white>kids are making fun of you.

532
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,600
<c.white>You told the wrong person
<c.white>you had a crush,

533
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,640
<c.white>and soon, they all knew your secret.
<c.white>It's horrible.

534
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,120
<c.yellow>They make your life hell.

535
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,320
<c.yellow>They laugh at you, whisper
<c.yellow>about you, call you names.

536
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,240
<c.yellow>It's not nice.

537
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,160
<c.yellow>And you can't ask an adult for help

538
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,120
<c.yellow>because if you do that,
<c.yellow>you'd have to tell them the truth.

539
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,320
<c.yellow>Three months before your
<c.yellow>21st birthday,

540
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,360
<c.yellow>you will tell Mum this secret.

541
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,920
<c.yellow>You'll be sobbing and shaking

542
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,480
<c.yellow>and she will be frightened because
<c.yellow>she doesn't know what's wrong.

543
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,320
<c.yellow>You'll have to tell her
<c.yellow>because you met someone you like

544
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,560
<c.yellow>and you can't live with the
<c.yellow>guilt any more.

545
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600
<c.yellow>You can't get the words out,
<c.yellow>so she says it.

546
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,440
<c.yellow>"Are you gay?"

547
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,960
<c.yellow>And you say,
<c.yellow>"Yes, Mummy. <c.cyan>I'm so sorry."

548
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,600
<c.yellow>And instead of getting mad,
<c.yellow>she'll reply...

549
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,320
<c.white>"Thank God you're not pregnant."

550
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,800
<c.yellow>I was aware of her writing.

551
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,200
<c.yellow>I had read Suicide
<c.yellow>Of The Ceasefire Babies,

552
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,400
<c.yellow>and I'd read
<c.yellow>Letter To My 14-Year-Old Self.

553
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,920
<c.yellow>And I remember I was kind of like,
<c.yellow>"Wow! You know, she's young,

554
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,280
<c.yellow>"she's from Northern Ireland,
<c.yellow>she's gay and she's THAT talented.

555
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,840
<c.yellow>"Like, she's phenomenal!"

556
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,480
<c.yellow>Um...never in a million years
<c.yellow>thinking I'd ever come across her

557
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,760
<c.yellow>on, you know,
<c.yellow>Plenty of Fish of all places.

558
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
<c.yellow>I was sitting one day and a like
<c.yellow>came through on my profile.

559
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,560
<c.yellow>It's one of the things you could do
<c.yellow>if you fancied somebody or whatever,

560
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,880
<c.yellow>you sent a wee like, and
<c.yellow>it's kind of a hint to say, "Hey!"

561
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,600
<c.yellow>So I clicked on her profile.

562
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,720
<c.yellow>She was called scribblesanddoodles.

563
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,360
<c.yellow>She asked me, she said,
<c.yellow>"If you're a true Harry Potter fan,

564
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,640
<c.yellow>"you'll know what
<c.yellow>your American house is".

565
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,000
<c.yellow>And I was like, "Of course I know
<c.yellow>what my American house is,

566
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,880
<c.yellow>"it's Pukwudgie!"

567
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,760
<c.yellow>And that started it.

568
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680
<c.yellow>And then I did Google her,
<c.yellow>probably that night, to be fair.

569
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:56,960
<c.yellow>And I was, like, you know,
<c.yellow>Forbes 30 Under 30.

570
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,960
<c.yellow>I was, like, no, there's
<c.yellow>not a hope in hell

571
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,880
<c.yellow>this is going to go anywhere.
<c.yellow>She is way out of my league.

572
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,360
<c.yellow>But there was no awkwardness.

573
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,840
<c.yellow>From the very beginning, it was just
<c.yellow>two chatterboxes together, like.

574
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,360
<c.yellow>How many pancakes do you want?

575
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,240
<c.cyan>Do ten more squats,
<c.cyan>and I'll have three.

576
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,480
<c.yellow>Jesus!

577
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,520
<c.yellow>You know, she was so...

578
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,960
<c.yellow>She was... She was just such
<c.yellow>a tonic, she was so funny.

579
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,920
<c.yellow>We dressed as nuns
<c.yellow>for a charity night.

580
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,800
<c.yellow>We learned the songs
<c.yellow>from Sister Act.

581
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,680
<c.yellow>Lyra was very reluctant.

582
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,120
<c.yellow>God love her,
<c.yellow>she had no rhythm at all

583
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,600
<c.yellow>and she was giving it her all,
<c.yellow>she was dancing away.

584
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,240
<c.yellow>The craic was great.

585
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,880
<c.yellow>And it was the night before
<c.yellow>her birthday,

586
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,720
<c.yellow>so the entire place
<c.yellow>sang Happy Birthday to her.

587
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,400
<c.yellow>She was really pleased, though.
<c.yellow>You can see it in the video,

588
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,560
<c.yellow>she's clapping away and
<c.yellow>it's just so cute.

589
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,520
<c.yellow>She just had such a big heart.

590
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,640
<c.yellow>She got really attached to
<c.yellow>the things that she wrote about

591
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,240
<c.yellow>and the people she wrote about.

592
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,720
<c.white>I started in journalism nearly
<c.white>ten years ago.

593
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,240
<c.white>I never forget going
<c.white>to my university careers fair

594
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,800
<c.white>and asking the representative
<c.white>from the major, leading

595
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,840
<c.white>newspaper in Northern Ireland, did
<c.white>they hire investigative journalists?

596
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,320
<c.white>And she laughed at me and said
<c.white>no, they didn't hire those people

597
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,800
<c.white>any more, and that was an
<c.white>excess of the past.

598
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,800
<c.white>So that was what journalism looked
<c.white>like when I was starting out.

599
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,640
<c.white>So, I had to find another way.

600
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,400
<c.white>The best bit of advice
<c.white>I ever received was that brick walls

601
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,000
<c.white>aren't there to keep you out, they're
<c.white>there to see how badly you want it.

602
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,040
<c.white>I always think a good
<c.white>story can be universal.

603
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,680
<c.white>To give an example,
<c.white>I don't think the editor that

604
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,280
<c.white>I was dealing with knew
<c.white>anything about the Troubles.

605
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:54,600
<c.white>The story I pitched then was
<c.white>about a woman who spent 20 years

606
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,760
<c.white>investigating
<c.white>the murder of her father,

607
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,520
<c.white>looking for evidence that would
<c.white>basically incriminate his murderers.

608
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,440
<c.white>Hello? <c.yellow>Come on in.

609
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,760
<c.yellow>My father was shot on
<c.yellow>the 9th of August 1971, by the

610
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,280
<c.yellow>Parachute Regiment in what is now
<c.yellow>known as the Ballymurphy Massacre.

611
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,080
<c.lime>There wasn't much rioting last
<c.lime>night - little stone-throwing

612
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,280
<c.lime>and no pitched battles
<c.lime>between the troops and the mobs.

613
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,960
<c.lime>Instead, the bullets flew.

614
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,520
<c.yellow>She came in and she just
<c.yellow>looked around

615
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,760
<c.yellow>and she went, "And what's them?"

616
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,040
<c.yellow>I went, "They're witnesses,
<c.yellow>they're this."

617
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,880
<c.yellow>"But how did you get it?"

618
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,960
<c.yellow>Even when she looked.
<c.yellow>"Army statements."

619
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,000
<c.yellow>"But you can't have army statement."
<c.yellow>I went, "I do have army statements."

620
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,360
<c.yellow>I remember she says,

621
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,720
<c.yellow>"Did you ever think about being
<c.yellow>an investigative journalist?"

622
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,640
<c.yellow>I went, "Oh, dear, I think I have
<c.yellow>enough to do doing Ballymurphy!"

623
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,200
<c.yellow>The first time I had asked my mummy
<c.yellow>if I could get the inquest papers,

624
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:47,040
<c.yellow>she told me, "Love, they'll never
<c.yellow>give you the inquest papers,

625
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,400
<c.yellow>"The British Government will
<c.yellow>never give you."

626
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,480
<c.white>You're really starting to go
<c.white>into some of the really

627
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,560
<c.white>dark things that happened here.

628
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,400
<c.white>It's funny how a lot of those
<c.white>documents have went missing.

629
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,520
<c.white>It is an issue,
<c.white>especially in Northern Ireland.

630
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,600
<c.white>What is it that they
<c.white>don't want us to know?

631
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,720
<c.yellow>Around about 2000 and...

632
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,600
<c.yellow>..12, 13...

633
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:51,760
<c.yellow>But under further examination, there
<c.yellow>was a bullet under the tibia bone.

634
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,240
<c.white>The hairs on my arm stood up.

635
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,920
<c.white>A deposition from the doctor
<c.white>said that the bullet

636
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,880
<c.white>that would basically
<c.white>incriminate his murderers

637
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,160
<c.white>was still encased in his skeleton.

638
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,880
<c.yellow>The bullet. They found the bullet.

639
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,080
<c.yellow>That was emotional.

640
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,600
<c.yellow>I did ring Lyra and tell Lyra.

641
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,720
<c.yellow>I was in tears.

642
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,600
<c.yellow>That's the bullet,
<c.yellow>and that's the back end of it,

643
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,960
<c.yellow>so that is the bullet.

644
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,120
<c.lime>What did Lyra say to you?

645
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,560
<c.yellow>She couldn't speak.
<c.yellow>She couldn't, um...

646
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,280
<c.yellow>What do you say?

647
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:35,040
<c.yellow>When I was telling my story to her,

648
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,680
<c.yellow>I felt comfortable, and...

649
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,520
<c.yellow>..she helped me through my emotion.

650
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,480
<c.yellow>It was just such a nice
<c.yellow>way with her,

651
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,040
<c.yellow>Even when you spoke to her,
<c.yellow>her voice...

652
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,080
<c.white>SHE SIGHS

653
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,440
<c.yellow>It's just ironic that she was trying
<c.yellow>to help victims like myself,

654
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,600
<c.yellow>and then for this to happen
<c.yellow>to her and her family,

655
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,200
<c.yellow>that's going to face now what
<c.yellow>my family has faced.

656
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,000
<c.white>RADIO NEWS: <c.lime>A 52-year-old man has
<c.lime>been charged with the murder

657
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,800
<c.lime>of journalist Lyra McKee.

658
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:34,360
<c.yellow>The man is an alleged accomplice of
<c.yellow>the gunman who pulled the trigger.

659
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,800
<c.yellow>He will appear in the city's
<c.yellow>Magistrates' Court tomorrow.

660
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,360
<c.yellow>As well as a murder charge, he is
<c.yellow>accused of possessing a firearm

661
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,000
<c.yellow>and membership of
<c.yellow>an illegal organisation.

662
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,240
<c.cyan>I'm imposing a restriction
<c.cyan>on yous here under Article 42,

663
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,120
<c.cyan>the Public Order
<c.cyan>(Northern Ireland) Order

664
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,960
<c.cyan>in relation to
<c.cyan>where yous can protest.

665
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,120
<c.cyan>Yous are obviously entitled to
<c.cyan>a protest, a peaceful protest.

666
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,840
<c.cyan>Would you just please move
<c.cyan>back, gentlemen?

667
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,520
<c.cyan>You have your right to assembly,
<c.cyan>your freedom of expression.

668
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,760
<c.cyan>I'm going to ask yous to
<c.cyan>move back under Article 42,

669
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,440
<c.cyan>the Public Order Order.

670
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,040
<c.lime>Hey! Hey!

671
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,280
<c.lime>Get back!

672
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,520
<c.white>SHOUTING

673
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,480
<c.yellow>We all know you're innocent!

674
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:32,360
<c.white>SHOUTING, CHEERING

675
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,480
<c.white>SHOUTING, CHEERING CONTINUES

676
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,000
<c.cyan>Fuckin' scumbags!

677
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,440
<c.yellow>We're here to support Paul McIntyre
<c.yellow>because we know he's innocent.

678
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,280
<c.yellow>Er...

679
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,320
<c.yellow>It's wrong.

680
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,440
<c.yellow>Er...

681
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,080
<c.yellow>We don't want an
<c.yellow>innocent man going down.

682
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,320
<c.yellow>Friend. <c.cyan>Friends, aye.

683
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,680
<c.cyan>Sorry to hear that. <c.yellow>Oh, I'm sorry
<c.yellow>to hear that. Aye, well.

684
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:18,280
<c.yellow>Condolences to her friends
<c.yellow>and family, like, and her partner.

685
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,000
<c.yellow>But, at the end of the day,

686
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,840
<c.yellow>an innocent man is getting charged -
<c.yellow>hasn't done wrong.

687
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,880
<c.yellow>He didn't do it.

688
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,480
<c.yellow>Well, we can't comment on that.
<c.yellow>We don't know who done it.

689
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,480
<c.cyan>We don't know who's done it, so.

690
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,040
<c.yellow>No, we don't know who done it but

691
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,040
<c.yellow>Paul McIntyre didn't do it and he's
<c.yellow>completely innocent, so he is.

692
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,440
<c.yellow>I'm shaking. I'm totally shaking.

693
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,320
<c.yellow>It's the first step in a very,
<c.yellow>very long journey ahead of us all.

694
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,320
<c.yellow>And I suppose...

695
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,880
<c.lime>Was it daunting?
<c.lime>How did it feel, all those people?

696
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,520
<c.cyan>It wasn't so much the people,

697
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,640
<c.cyan>it's just whenever Paul McIntyre
<c.cyan>came out

698
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,760
<c.cyan>and he looked me and Nichola
<c.cyan>straight in the face,

699
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,840
<c.cyan>didn't care.

700
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,120
<c.cyan>And his hands up like this
<c.cyan>to his mates.

701
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,120
<c.yellow>And they were doing it back to him,
<c.yellow>and he was trying to encourage them.

702
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,760
<c.yellow>But it was really important
<c.yellow>to be there to see the person

703
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,120
<c.yellow>who has been charged
<c.yellow>with our Lyra's murder.

704
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,920
<c.lime>I am relieved that they've charged
<c.lime>a man now related to Lyra's murder,

705
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,680
<c.lime>but I know he's not the one
<c.lime>who pulled the trigger.

706
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,160
<c.lime>Derry's a really small city

707
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,880
<c.lime>and I could walk past the man who
<c.lime>killed her at any time.

708
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,320
<c.lime>The police know who the gunman is

709
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,760
<c.lime>but they don't have the evidence
<c.lime>to charge him yet.

710
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,480
<c.lime>People know who did it, but they're
<c.lime>too frightened to speak out.

711
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,640
<c.lime>And I understand that's how it is,

712
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,760
<c.lime>and how it always has been in
<c.lime>this country, in all communities.

713
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,640
<c.lime>It has to change.

714
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,120
<c.lime>That's what Lyra was writing about.

715
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,000
<c.lime>And now we have to do that for her.

716
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,720
<c.lime>We have to find a way to break
<c.lime>that silence.

717
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,120
<c.lime>Because our politicians certainly
<c.lime>aren't going to do it for us.

718
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,000
<c.yellow>On tonight's programme -
<c.yellow>crisis in Stormont.

719
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,000
<c.lime>For years, power has been shared
<c.lime>in Northern Ireland.

720
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,120
<c.lime>It was one of the foundation
<c.lime>stones of peace.

721
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,400
<c.lime>Today, that power-sharing
<c.lime>government collapsed.

722
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,440
<c.cyan>There can be no return to
<c.cyan>the status quo.

723
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,800
<c.cyan>If something is broke, you stop.

724
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,080
<c.lime>What does all this mean?
<c.lime>Uncertainty for Northern Ireland.

725
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,440
<c.white>APPLAUSE

726
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,560
<c.yellow>Folks, welcome to our TEDx
<c.yellow>Stormont Women event this evening.

727
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,120
<c.yellow>It's lovely to be here tonight.

728
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,280
<c.yellow>It's quite symbolic, actually, that
<c.yellow>we're all sitting in Stormont with

729
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,880
<c.yellow>no government, but we'll get there.

730
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,960
<c.yellow>So, I want you to give it up for a
<c.yellow>fantastic freelance journalist.

731
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,680
<c.yellow>Her wisdom and maturity at such
<c.yellow>a young age is incredible.

732
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,960
<c.yellow>She is one to watch. Lyra McKee.

733
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,240
<c.white>APPLAUSE

734
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,000
<c.white>Thank you very much, folks,
<c.white>it's lovely to be here.

735
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,680
<c.white>I want to tell you a story
<c.white>about a conversation I witnessed

736
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,360
<c.white>at a mosque, which changed my life.

737
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,400
<c.white>But to tell you that story, I have to
<c.white>tell you another story first,

738
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,680
<c.white>and I've only got 12 minutes.

739
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,520
<c.yellow>You are now recording. <c.white>Hi!

740
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,000
<c.white>I got the opportunity to
<c.white>go on a trip to the United States...

741
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,360
<c.white>LYRA GIGGLES

742
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,320
<c.white>..to learn about American values.

743
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,960
<c.white>So, the thing about these trips is,
<c.white>they offer you a number of perks.

744
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,760
<c.white>So, in our case,
<c.white>they took us to Disneyland.

745
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,280
<c.white>Which I can confirm is definitely
<c.white>one of the happiest places on Earth.

746
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,560
<c.white>Then they took us to Nasa which,
<c.white>as a Star Wars nerd,

747
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,560
<c.white>I have to say competed in my heart

748
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,120
<c.white>for the title
<c.white>of happiest place on Earth.

749
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,440
<c.white>Oh, my God, that thing
<c.white>is coming for me!

750
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,520
<c.white>And you're probably thinking,
<c.white>where do I sign up for this trip?

751
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,760
<c.white>This sounds amazing,
<c.white>it's a free jolly.

752
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,520
<c.white>Which is what I thought it was.

753
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,440
<c.white>But I had to go through hell to
<c.white>get these perks.

754
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,480
<c.white>They offer your carrots they can
<c.white>dangle in front of you

755
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,760
<c.white>whenever the going gets tough,
<c.white>when you're in the 100th meeting

756
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,400
<c.white>of the day with someone whose views
<c.white>you find absolutely reprehensible.

757
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,080
<c.white>For me, though, the hardest part
<c.white>of the trip was when they told us

758
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,840
<c.white>we were going to be visiting
<c.white>a mosque.

759
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,120
<c.white>Now, you ask yourself, why would
<c.white>I find it hard to visit a mosque?

760
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,960
<c.white>Well, for those of you
<c.white>who don't have gaydar, I'm gay.

761
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,560
<c.white>Don't worry, you can laugh, it's OK!

762
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,760
<c.white>And the first lesson I learned about
<c.white>being gay was that it was evil,

763
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,040
<c.white>and that I was going to hell for it.

764
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,680
<c.white>And I learned that from the Bible.

765
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,000
<c.white>There were times that I would cry
<c.white>in my bedroom as a teenager,

766
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,760
<c.white>bargaining with God, asking him
<c.white>not to send me to hell,

767
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,560
<c.white>because I was so convinced
<c.white>that I was going there.

768
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,040
<c.white>You know, this text, this Bible,

769
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,920
<c.white>I know for so many people,
<c.white>it offers them hope

770
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,920
<c.white>and it offers them salvation.

771
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,000
<c.white>But for me, it offered
<c.white>a prison sentence.

772
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,720
<c.white>But I was intrigued by this mosque,
<c.white>because it was in Orlando.

773
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,320
<c.white>And a year to the week
<c.white>that we were in Orlando,

774
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,200
<c.white>49 people were slaughtered
<c.white>in a gay nightclub called Pulse.

775
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,800
<c.white>And this mosque had led the response
<c.white>to that tragedy

776
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,400
<c.white>and had condemned it.

777
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,840
<c.white>This was at a time when
<c.white>Christian churches in Orlando

778
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,920
<c.white>were refusing to bury some of
<c.white>the dead because they were gay.

779
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,400
<c.white>So I decided that I would go
<c.white>into this mosque with an open mind.

780
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,120
<c.white>And I did, and we met with
<c.white>this lovely man called Bassem,

781
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,160
<c.white>who was one of the leaders
<c.white>in the mosque.

782
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,400
<c.white>And Bassem and I had a conversation
<c.white>about LGBT rights

783
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,400
<c.white>and what Muslims
<c.white>think of gay people, and...

784
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,160
<c.white>Difficult, thorny subject.

785
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,320
<c.white>But there was a young Muslim man,

786
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,880
<c.white>and he was listening to the exchange
<c.white>between Bassem and I,

787
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,320
<c.white>and he said,
<c.white>"My best friend was gay.

788
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,280
<c.white>"He was Muslim
<c.white>and he committed suicide."

789
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,120
<c.white>And at this point,
<c.white>he burst into tears.

790
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:38,160
<c.white>And he said, "I did everything I
<c.white>could to save him, but I couldn't".

791
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,360
<c.white>LGBT suicide rates
<c.white>are through the roof.

792
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,000
<c.white>What do we do about this?

793
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,200
<c.white>I feel the only answer is to change
<c.white>religious teaching of homosexuality.

794
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,880
<c.white>And I don't mean we berate
<c.white>Christians and shout at them,

795
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,520
<c.white>or berate Muslims and
<c.white>shout at them.

796
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,160
<c.white>We need to have conversations,
<c.white>difficult conversations,

797
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,040
<c.white>and fight for the hearts and minds
<c.white>of those who oppose us.

798
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,560
<c.white>Don't tell me there's no hope,

799
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,000
<c.white>because for too many
<c.white>LGBT young people,

800
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,880
<c.white>that is the only thing they have
<c.white>that keeps them living.

801
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,080
<c.white>This talk is in memory of
<c.white>the Pulse 49

802
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,840
<c.white>and all LGBT people
<c.white>who've died by suicide.

803
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,440
<c.white>Thank you very much, folks.

804
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,760
<c.white>RAPTUROUS CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

805
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,320
<c.yellow>Lyra McKee, ladies and gentlemen.

806
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,040
<c.yellow>Come out again!

807
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,760
<c.white>CHEERING AND APPLAUSE CONTINUES

808
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,160
<c.yellow>Look at that!

809
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,200
<c.yellow>You're amazing. You're amazing.

810
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,760
<c.white>Hey, Ali.

811
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,760
<c.white>Me and Marie the cat want
<c.white>to wish you a fabulous birthday.

812
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,480
<c.white>Isn't that right, Marie?

813
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:55,800
<c.white>Yes.

814
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,520
<c.white>Have a great one. I love you loads.

815
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,360
<c.white>I'd always wanted to write a book,

816
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,600
<c.white>and I decided I was going to
<c.white>finally do it.

817
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,800
<c.white>It's going to be one story

818
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:12,520
<c.white>that other reporters here
<c.white>would be really afraid to report.

819
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:13,960
<c.white>Or wouldn't.

820
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,400
<c.cyan>So, how can I help you?

821
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,960
<c.white>I'm working on a proposal
<c.white>for a book called The Lost Boys.

822
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,120
<c.white>I'm really curious about this case.

823
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,080
<c.white>And everyone I speak to, whether
<c.white>they're a journalist or a cop,

824
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,320
<c.white>it seems that everyone's saying,
<c.white>there's something not right here,

825
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,440
<c.white>we need to find out what happened.

826
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,240
<c.cyan>There's always cases from your
<c.cyan>career, you look at and you think,

827
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,400
<c.cyan>"I wish we'd done that."
<c.cyan>And this is mine.

828
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,840
<c.cyan>It's one I would really like to see
<c.cyan>solved. <c.white>OK.

829
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,000
<c.cyan>Because I think it is solvable.

830
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,920
<c.cyan>Somebody in West Belfast
<c.cyan>knows where these children are,

831
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,560
<c.cyan>or what happened to them.

832
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,600
<c.white>There's a lot of kids who went
<c.white>missing during the Troubles.

833
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,760
<c.white>How so? Like, why?

834
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,120
<c.cyan>At that time, we had all sorts
<c.cyan>of bombings,

835
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,000
<c.cyan>explosions, killings, everywhere.

836
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,120
<c.cyan>And the disappearance of
<c.cyan>two little boys

837
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,720
<c.cyan>would have been noted,

838
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,640
<c.cyan>but it wouldn't have been high
<c.cyan>on the scale of priorities.

839
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,640
<c.white>Yeah. <c.cyan>You know, people were being
<c.cyan>killed en masse.

840
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,000
<c.cyan>From the police point of view,
<c.cyan>you have virtually no resources,

841
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,120
<c.cyan>because they're all tied up
<c.cyan>with shootings and bombings.

842
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,040
<c.cyan>And you're trying to make
<c.cyan>public appeals for information.

843
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,600
<c.cyan>People don't trust the police.

844
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,400
<c.cyan>If anybody cooperates with you,
<c.cyan>they risk being shot.

845
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,680
<c.cyan>So with all the other
<c.cyan>normal problems,

846
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,080
<c.cyan>this investigation
<c.cyan>initially went nowhere.

847
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,280
<c.yellow>She was really determined
<c.yellow>to find answers,

848
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,520
<c.yellow>but she really wanted to find
<c.yellow>those boys

849
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,000
<c.yellow>and give their families
<c.yellow>that closure.

850
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,680
<c.yellow>She was so excited every time
<c.yellow>there was a wee breakthrough

851
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,600
<c.yellow>or she heard something
<c.yellow>that she'd been looking for.

852
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,800
<c.yellow>I remember we were in Alicante,
<c.yellow>actually,

853
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,400
<c.yellow>she got a phone call
<c.yellow>from Father Martin Magill.

854
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,400
<c.white>Thanks again, Martin. You're a star.
<c.white>Thank you. Bye. Bye, bye, bye.

855
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,560
<c.yellow>I'm guessing
<c.yellow>that was something good.

856
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,400
<c.yellow>I'm doing what Ali told me to do.
<c.white>THEY LAUGH

857
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,920
<c.white>So the priest went and spoke to
<c.white>his parishioner. <c.yellow>Yeah?

858
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,560
<c.white>And, er... This is mental!

859
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,400
<c.white>There's a number of things.

860
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,040
<c.white>Apparently, the parishioner
<c.white>gave a statement to the police

861
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,200
<c.white>saying that the bus came,
<c.white>but the boys didn't get on it.

862
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,520
<c.white>That's not the account
<c.white>that the police have given.

863
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,160
<c.yellow>Ooh! <c.white>So the statement
<c.white>must have been lost.

864
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,720
<c.white>Second... <c.yellow>Yes? <c.white>The... Apparently,
<c.white>they were coming back from the

865
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,360
<c.white>cinema one night, John and his mum,

866
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,160
<c.white>and they saw some men
<c.white>setting the tripwire.

867
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,560
<c.white>And John said to them,

868
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,560
<c.white>"I know who you are
<c.white>and I'm going to tell the police".

869
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,440
<c.white>And it was local IRA men. <c.yellow>Ohh!

870
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:30,040
<c.white>And she couldn't remember exactly
<c.white>who...

871
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,120
<c.white>..the exact date...

872
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,000
<c.white>But that corresponds
<c.white>with what I've been told. <c.yellow>Mm.

873
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,920
<c.white>That one of the boys killed was one
<c.white>of them saying, "I'm going to tell".

874
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,320
<c.yellow>Shit.

875
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,920
<c.yellow>That's pretty huge.

876
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:46,000
<c.white>Oh, my God, that priest was amazing!
<c.yellow>Yeah!

877
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,720
<c.white>You know what I say about priests!
<c.yellow>No, I know.

878
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,200
<c.yellow>Especially the way you said it - it
<c.yellow>was kind of worrying!

879
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,560
<c.white>LAUGHTER

880
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,320
<c.lime>So, when I answered the door to her,

881
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,120
<c.lime>"Oh, my Lord..." Looked like a wee
<c.lime>schoolgirl, actually,

882
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,800
<c.lime>in some ways!

883
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,000
<c.lime>But when I actually heard the story,

884
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,440
<c.lime>when I heard the connection with
<c.lime>this parish,

885
01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:07,560
<c.lime>I couldn't believe it. Her...

886
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,760
<c.lime>..desire to do this was really
<c.lime>infectious, and at the end of

887
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,600
<c.lime>this conversation,

888
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,160
<c.lime>this meeting with her,

889
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,600
<c.lime>I'm thinking, "I really must help
<c.lime>Lyra with this."

890
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,160
<c.lime>What was very clear was

891
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:20,960
<c.lime>just how extensive the research

892
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,360
<c.lime>actually was and she

893
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:27,080
<c.lime>certainly was talking to a lot of
<c.lime>different people.

894
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,680
<c.lime>And if anybody was going to find out

895
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,160
<c.lime>what had happened to the two boys,
<c.lime>it was Lyra.

896
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,120
<c.cyan>Five, six, seven, eight...
<c.cyan>Tap, tap...

897
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,840
<c.cyan>One, two, three, four, five, six...

898
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,680
<c.white>I've never really been motivated
<c.white>by making money.

899
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,360
<c.white>Making money looks like...

900
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,040
<c.white>It's OK, but it just doesn't...
<c.white>I can't...

901
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,880
<c.white>It's nothing I can get out of bed
<c.white>for.

902
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,520
<c.white>It's really about
<c.white>disrupting the status quo

903
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,160
<c.white>and trying to fix something
<c.white>that is wrong.

904
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,080
<c.white>Thinking about money and how to make
<c.white>money, constrains your creativity.

905
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,440
<c.white>It really takes the soul out of it.

906
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:11,640
<c.white>And you don't do the crazy things

907
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,720
<c.white>that could, you know,
<c.white>change the world.

908
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,840
<c.cyan>Three, four, five, six, stand up.

909
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,720
<c.cyan>One, two, three, put her down.

910
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,040
<c.cyan>Five, six. Cross hands and kick.

911
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,640
<c.white>Sometimes you get lucky and people
<c.white>pay you to do what you love.

912
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,400
<c.cyan>It's rare to read something

913
01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:38,440
<c.cyan>that has the immediate feel
<c.cyan>of a classic.

914
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:43,720
<c.cyan>She has such a kind of
<c.cyan>striking, er...feel on the page.

915
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,880
<c.cyan>As an editor, you're always
<c.cyan>looking for the next voice of
<c.cyan>their generation.

916
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,440
<c.cyan>You want those sort of next
<c.cyan>essayists, the next great novelists,

917
01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:55,440
<c.cyan>the best thinkers,
<c.cyan>and Lyra was that person.

918
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:58,000
<c.cyan>She was absolutely
<c.cyan>the kind of rising star

919
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,320
<c.cyan>for Faber's nonfiction.

920
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,080
<c.lime>Lyra, thanks so much for joining us
<c.lime>on the podcast today.

921
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,800
<c.white>Thank you very much for having me.

922
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,120
<c.lime>So, people might look at you
<c.lime>and think,

923
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,040
<c.lime>high-profile, two-book deal,

924
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,640
<c.lime>look at you as a success
<c.lime>within the field.

925
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,600
<c.white>LYRA LAUGHS
<c.white>I'm not a success! Um...

926
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,200
<c.white>I'm still chasing my dreams.

927
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,040
<c.white>Listen, I'm a kid
<c.white>from North Belfast.

928
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,840
<c.white>There was never any indication that
<c.white>I was anything, you know, special.

929
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,600
<c.white>And I'd still say
<c.white>I'm not anything special.

930
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,040
<c.white>The only difference between me
<c.white>and someone else is I'm a cockroach.

931
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,360
<c.white>You can't kill me.

932
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,200
<c.yellow>So she'd started work on the book.

933
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,240
<c.yellow>It was all going really,
<c.yellow>really well,

934
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,080
<c.yellow>and we were planning on a holiday.

935
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,600
<c.yellow>She said to me, "I got you something
<c.yellow>amazing today for holidays",

936
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,880
<c.yellow>cos we were going to New York,
<c.yellow>and, um...I said, "What is it?"

937
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,200
<c.yellow>"I'm not telling you,
<c.yellow>but you're going to love it."

938
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,120
<c.yellow>"Happy days.
<c.yellow>That's grand. I can wait."

939
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,640
<c.yellow>Lyra couldn't wait.

940
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,160
<c.yellow>Pulled up outside the house,
<c.yellow>she pulled out her phone,

941
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,600
<c.yellow>"I can't hold it in any more.
<c.yellow>I can't keep this from you."

942
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,080
<c.yellow>I was like, "What is it?!"
<c.yellow>Thinking it was something bad.

943
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,400
<c.yellow>"I bought your engagement ring today
<c.yellow>and this is it!"

944
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:13,680
<c.yellow>She showed me a picture of it
<c.yellow>on her phone and I was like,

945
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,480
<c.yellow>"Lyra! What are you doing?!

946
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,160
<c.yellow>"You don't show me the picture!

947
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,640
<c.yellow>"Oh, no, it feels like a really bad
<c.yellow>secret!"

948
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,160
<c.yellow>"It's the opposite of a bad secret,
<c.yellow>it's a great secret, it's a
<c.yellow>lovely secret."

949
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,360
<c.yellow>I mean, she'd picked
<c.yellow>the perfect ring.

950
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,600
<c.yellow>And I was, "You can't tell me
<c.yellow>when... You can't do it any time
<c.yellow>now.

951
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,120
<c.yellow>"I'm going to be suspicious
<c.yellow>everywhere we go."

952
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,760
<c.yellow>Um...but she had planned to do it
<c.yellow>in New York.

953
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,040
<c.yellow>She was going to pop the question.

954
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,480
<c.yellow>She was the woman for it, like.

955
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,920
<c.cyan>She called me every day,
<c.cyan>if not ten times a day.

956
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,640
<c.cyan>But on the Wednesday, she phoned me

957
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,200
<c.cyan>because she'd had a horrible dream
<c.cyan>the night before.

958
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,920
<c.cyan>And we would always talk about
<c.cyan>our dreams to each other.

959
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,240
<c.cyan>She said, um...

960
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,600
<c.cyan>"I had a dream that I was shot."

961
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,000
<c.cyan>She said, "It felt so real!"

962
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,200
<c.cyan>And I said,
<c.cyan>"Maybe it's just a dream.

963
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,800
<c.cyan>"Cos sometimes we just have
<c.cyan>really frightening nightmares."

964
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,760
<c.cyan>And she said, "No. It felt too real.

965
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,160
<c.cyan>"It felt like it actually happened."

966
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,480
<c.white>REPORTER: <c.yellow>Good evening.
<c.yellow>In the last half-hour,

967
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,320
<c.yellow>there have been reports of a serious
<c.yellow>disturbance in Londonderry.

968
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,600
<c.white>SHOUTING AND SIRENS

969
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,840
<c.cyan>It was Andrew's birthday, and, um...

970
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,960
<c.cyan>..we were just sitting down
<c.cyan>and watching the TV in the evening,

971
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,120
<c.cyan>and me phone rang.

972
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,560
<c.cyan>"Hello?"

973
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,720
<c.cyan>"We were down at a riot.
<c.cyan>Lyra's been hit in the head

974
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,800
<c.cyan>"and she's been taken to hospital."

975
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,320
<c.cyan>I assumed it was going to be
<c.cyan>a brick or a bottle

976
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,800
<c.cyan>or something of that nature.

977
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,040
<c.cyan>And I said, "We need to go and get
<c.cyan>my mummy."

978
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,320
<c.cyan>Off we went, up to my mummy's house.

979
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,760
<c.cyan>My phone went again.

980
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:44,200
<c.cyan>And I was told
<c.cyan>that Lyra has been shot.

981
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,440
<c.cyan>And that it wasn't looking good.

982
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:57,720
<c.cyan>So got my mummy then, sorted,
<c.cyan>and into my husband's car.

983
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,440
<c.cyan>My phone went again.

984
01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:04,040
<c.cyan>This time, it was a police officer
<c.cyan>wanting to speak to me.

985
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,600
<c.cyan>I said, "Can you tell me something -
<c.cyan>is my sister still alive?"

986
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,200
<c.cyan>And he said, "I'm really sorry
<c.cyan>to have to tell you this,

987
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,040
<c.cyan>"but your sister has passed away."

988
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,800
<c.cyan>And my heart just broke
<c.cyan>there and then.

989
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,440
<c.cyan>And my mummy's still sitting
<c.cyan>in the car.

990
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,000
<c.lime>Lovely. Want to blow it out, Lyra?

991
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,120
<c.white>CHEERING

992
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:36,760
<c.lime>Way to go!

993
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,440
<c.lime>Yummy?

994
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:40,760
<c.cyan>My wee mummy,

995
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:46,040
<c.cyan>who adored every cell
<c.cyan>in that child's body...

996
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,440
<c.cyan>..to tell her
<c.cyan>her baby, she'd been killed!

997
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,880
<c.cyan>Killed by a bullet!

998
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,040
<c.cyan>We got to the hospital.

999
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,960
<c.cyan>My mummy didn't want to see her
<c.cyan>at that point.

1000
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,040
<c.cyan>I went in to see her...

1001
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,720
<c.white>SHE SIGHS DEEPLY

1002
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,920
<c.cyan>..and I couldn't believe it, cos she
<c.cyan>just looked like she was lying
<c.cyan>sleeping.

1003
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,360
<c.cyan>And so, I decided I would just sit
<c.cyan>beside her till she woke up.

1004
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,160
<c.cyan>Because my mind wasn't working,
<c.cyan>probably,

1005
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,040
<c.cyan>particularly accurately at the time.

1006
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,800
<c.cyan>And I didn't want to leave her,
<c.cyan>I just wanted to stay beside her.

1007
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,360
<c.cyan>If I could have got up on the bed
<c.cyan>with her, and died,
<c.cyan>I would have done it.

1008
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,560
<c.cyan>Just so I could cuddle her.

1009
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,080
<c.lime>I was in the Belfast newsroom last
<c.lime>night,

1010
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,200
<c.lime>and it became clear around one
<c.lime>o'clock this morning,

1011
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,920
<c.lime>that Lyra McKee had died,

1012
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,680
<c.lime>in the Creggan estate.

1013
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,960
<c.lime>This morning, I woke to
<c.lime>the sense of disbelief

1014
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,600
<c.lime>and the sense of outrage
<c.lime>and the sense of sadness.

1015
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,200
<c.white>CALLER: <c.yellow>It's just horrible.
<c.yellow>It's just horrible.

1016
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,160
<c.yellow>We can't...go past these days.

1017
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,160
<c.white>REPORTER: <c.lime>Hundreds of people across
<c.lime>Ireland are expressing their anger

1018
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,800
<c.lime>and grief at the tragic murder last
<c.lime>night of Lyra McKee.

1019
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,800
<c.lime>An outpouring of feeling

1020
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,760
<c.lime>that we have not seen in decades.

1021
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,200
<c.white>REPORTER: <c.yellow>This evening, vigils are

1022
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:39,880
<c.yellow>taking place in Derry and in
<c.yellow>Belfast,

1023
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,160
<c.yellow>and books of condolence have been
<c.yellow>opened for people to pay

1024
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,160
<c.yellow>tribute to the murdered journalist.

1025
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,160
<c.cyan>I was standing out in my mum's back
<c.cyan>garden -

1026
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,760
<c.cyan>the Irish Government on the phone
<c.cyan>asking could this one go,

1027
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,000
<c.cyan>and that one go.

1028
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,880
<c.cyan>And then the Northern Ireland Office
<c.cyan>was on the phone,

1029
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,440
<c.cyan>the Secretary of State

1030
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:06,280
<c.cyan>wanted to come, and maybe

1031
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:07,760
<c.cyan>the Prime Minister,

1032
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,360
<c.cyan>and I'm thinking, "Why would

1033
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,800
<c.cyan>"the Prime Minister want to come to
<c.cyan>our Lyra's funeral?"

1034
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,320
<c.lime>Before Lyra's funeral,
<c.lime>it was becoming abundantly clear

1035
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,000
<c.lime>this was very different.

1036
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,560
<c.lime>This was something that I'd never
<c.lime>encountered before,

1037
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,200
<c.lime>with the likes of politicians
<c.lime>and leaders.

1038
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,240
<c.lime>That in some ways helped me to frame
<c.lime>what I was going to say.

1039
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,480
<c.lime>At the time of Lyra's death,
<c.lime>we had no functioning government.

1040
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,320
<c.lime>There was a political vacuum.

1041
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,120
<c.lime>Lyra's funeral was one of
<c.lime>the first times

1042
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,280
<c.lime>that all our political leaders
<c.lime>sat together in over two years.

1043
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,400
<c.lime>The concern was - for that sort of
<c.lime>vacuum that we've had in the past,

1044
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:27,360
<c.lime>it gives those who

1045
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,200
<c.lime>would use violence as a way to

1046
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,200
<c.lime>achieve their ends, an opportunity

1047
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,240
<c.lime>and the likes of this ongoing
<c.lime>situation,

1048
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,720
<c.lime>allowed some of the violence to
<c.lime>increase.

1049
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,480
<c.yellow>It was the most insane

1050
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,920
<c.yellow>overwhelming thing.

1051
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,560
<c.yellow>We'd pulled up, and we'd just seen
<c.yellow>everyone there.

1052
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,040
<c.yellow>The amount of people who were out
<c.yellow>there was ridiculous.

1053
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,400
<c.yellow>And everything begins to feel numb.

1054
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,440
<c.lime>Coming into the cathedral,
<c.lime>at that stage,

1055
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,400
<c.lime>the service was delayed because

1056
01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:17,440
<c.lime>the Prime Minister, Theresa May,
<c.lime>her flight had been delayed.

1057
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:19,320
<c.lime>And in consultation with the family,

1058
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,720
<c.lime>they decided they'd hold
<c.lime>the service back a little bit.

1059
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,000
<c.cyan>Typical politicians, they tend
<c.cyan>to just nod to everything you say,

1060
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,080
<c.cyan>but give you absolutely
<c.cyan>no concrete assurances of anything.

1061
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,840
<c.cyan>She came in and gave her condolences
<c.cyan>to Lyra's mum and her sister.

1062
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,400
<c.cyan>And I thought, while I have you
<c.cyan>here, you're going to listen to me.

1063
01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:42,080
<c.cyan>So I spoke to her about the fact
<c.cyan>that we didn't have a functioning

1064
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,280
<c.cyan>government in Northern Ireland
<c.cyan>and we were being left adrift,

1065
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,000
<c.cyan>and really let down
<c.cyan>by the British Government.

1066
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,000
<c.cyan>And I said, "It's not just you, it's
<c.cyan>been successive Prime Ministers".

1067
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,720
<c.cyan>I said, "But you're letting us down
<c.cyan>day and daily,

1068
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,080
<c.cyan>"and it needs to change"

1069
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:07,160
<c.white># Oh, my life is changing every day

1070
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,920
<c.white># In every possible way

1071
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,880
<c.white># And oh, in my dreams

1072
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,800
<c.white># It's never quite as it seems

1073
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,200
<c.white># Never quite as it seems

1074
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,400
<c.white># I know I felt like this before

1075
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:39,200
<c.white># But now I'm feeling it even more

1076
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,800
<c.white># Because it came from you

1077
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,120
<c.white># Then I open up and see

1078
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,600
<c.white># The person falling here is me

1079
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,400
<c.white># A different way to be... #

1080
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,560
<c.white>HE SIGHS DEEPLY

1081
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:15,080
<c.lime>I couldn't believe it when I heard
<c.lime>the news on Good Friday morning

1082
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,200
<c.lime>that Lyra McKee had been shot dead.

1083
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,600
<c.lime>The irony could not be more poignant

1084
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,560
<c.lime>when we consider the signing
<c.lime>of the Good Friday Agreement,

1085
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,640
<c.lime>which was about ensuring there
<c.lime>would be no more deaths like Lyra's.

1086
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:40,160
<c.lime>And so, we don't need any more
<c.lime>innocent blood to be shed.

1087
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:47,240
<c.lime>Many of us will be praying
<c.lime>that Lyra's death, in its own way,

1088
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,080
<c.lime>will not have been in vain,

1089
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:55,760
<c.lime>and will contribute in some way
<c.lime>to building peace here.

1090
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:03,640
<c.lime>I am, however, left with a question.

1091
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,280
<c.lime>Why in God's name

1092
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,760
<c.lime>does it take the death of
<c.lime>a 29-year-old woman

1093
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,680
<c.lime>with her whole life
<c.lime>in front of her...?!

1094
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:19,200
<c.white>LOUD APPLAUSE

1095
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,920
<c.cyan>As our Lyra wrote...

1096
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,000
<c.cyan>..conflict victims...

1097
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,920
<c.cyan>..were a unique form
<c.cyan>of political currency,

1098
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,200
<c.cyan>bartered by each side.

1099
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,240
<c.cyan>And when we think about it,
<c.cyan>you know,

1100
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,640
<c.cyan>that...that's exactly
<c.cyan>what she became.

1101
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,840
<c.cyan>It's...it's so frightening that...

1102
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,240
<c.cyan>..she would become
<c.cyan>what she wrote about.

1103
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,960
<c.cyan>And we, too, her family,

1104
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,760
<c.cyan>would become what she wrote about.

1105
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:18,560
<c.cyan>Because we're now among the many
<c.cyan>thousands of conflict victims.

1106
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,000
<c.white>RESPECTFUL APPLAUSE

1107
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,440
<c.white># Soon I will be done

1108
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:57,480
<c.white># With the trouble around the world

1109
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:05,760
<c.white># Trouble of the world

1110
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,520
<c.white># Trouble of the world

1111
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,280
<c.white># Soon I will be done

1112
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:21,680
<c.white># With the trouble of the world

1113
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,120
<c.white># Going home

1114
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:32,720
<c.white># To live with God

1115
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,000
<c.white># No more

1116
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:47,520
<c.white># Weeping and wailing

1117
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,760
<c.white># No more

1118
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:59,680
<c.white># Weeping and wailing

1119
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:04,040
<c.white># No more

1120
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:11,440
<c.white># Weeping and wailing

1121
01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:15,000
<c.white># Going home

1122
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:21,080
<c.white># To live with God... #

1123
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,880
<c.cyan>They killed my mum
<c.cyan>the day they killed my Lyra.

1124
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,400
<c.cyan>She just missed Lyra so much.

1125
01:26:32,440 --> 01:26:34,360
<c.cyan>She wrote a wee book,

1126
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,040
<c.cyan>wrote about how her heart's
<c.cyan>so broken.

1127
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,800
<c.cyan>I said to Mummy
<c.cyan>when she was passing away,

1128
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,320
<c.cyan>"Make sure to tell Lyra we won't
<c.cyan>ever stop fighting for her."

1129
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,000
<c.cyan>You know?

1130
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,240
<c.cyan>"When she comes for you, just go.
<c.cyan>Just go with her.

1131
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,480
<c.cyan>"We'll be OK."

1132
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,560
<c.cyan>And we have to be.

1133
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,800
<c.white>SHE SIGHS DEEPLY

1134
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,200
<c.cyan>I hope it stops here.

1135
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,360
<c.cyan>I hope that bullet stops here.

1136
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,040
<c.cyan>I hope it does not travel
<c.cyan>any further.

1137
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,960
<c.cyan>It has to.

1138
01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:24,760
<c.cyan>Because we've been all
<c.cyan>through enough.

1139
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:30,600
<c.white># I want

1140
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:36,800
<c.white># To see my mother

1141
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:41,160
<c.white># I want

1142
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:48,440
<c.white># To see my mother

1143
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:51,840
<c.white># Going home

1144
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,760
<c.white># To live

1145
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,440
<c.white># With God

1146
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,480
<c.white># Soon I will be done

1147
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:12,000
<c.white># Oh, trouble of the world

1148
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:19,680
<c.white># Trouble of the world

1149
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,840
<c.white># Trouble
<c.white>Of the world

1150
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:30,640
<c.white># Soon I will be done

1151
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:36,760
<c.white># With the trouble of the world

1152
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,560
<c.white># Going home

1153
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,040
<c.white># To live

1154
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:53,320
<c.white># With God. #

1155
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:07,720
<c.cyan>My mummy left me with the job
<c.cyan>of keeping everything going.

1156
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:12,400
<c.cyan>And she wanted me to keep
<c.cyan>sharing Lyra's voice...

1157
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:14,880
<c.cyan>..because...

1158
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,680
<c.cyan>..she didn't want our Lyra
<c.cyan>ever to be forgotten.

1159
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:32,760
<c.white>I got into journalism
<c.white>because I loved it,

1160
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,920
<c.white>and because I thought
<c.white>I could change the world.

1161
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:41,800
<c.white>I still think that.

1162
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,120
<c.white>I'll probably laugh at myself when I
<c.white>look back at this video when I am 40

1163
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:58,400
<c.white>at how, you know, I really was
<c.white>convinced I could do it, but...

1164
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:01,480
<c.white>Yeah, I think it's just better
<c.white>to go down fighting.

1165
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:13,040
<c.white>Listen, do not fucking listen
<c.white>to bullshitters and naysayers.

1166
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,040
<c.white>See if you want to do it,
<c.white>you go do it.

1167
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:24,040
<c.white>And don't let anyone tell you
<c.white>that you can't do it.

1168
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<c.white>Subtitles for the deaf
<c.white>and hard of hearing by Red Bee Media



