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<i>Varginha is</i>
<i>a Brazilian city</i>

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<i>located in the southern region</i>
<i>of the state of Minas Gerais.</i>

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<i>Varginha is considered </i>
<i>the seventh best city in Brazil</i>
<i>to live and invest</i>

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<i>and became known</i>
<i>internationally in 1996</i>

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<i>for the alleged appearance</i>
<i>of alien creatures,</i>

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<i>the episode that became known</i>
<i>as the "Varginha Incident".</i>

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<i>This following story</i>
<i>is based on truth and lies.</i>

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If true, call it
another Roswell, if you will.

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That is, a crashed vehicle
that had beings
on board, apparently.

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Can she say what feelings
she got from the creature?

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<i>The Varginha case</i>
<i>is considered</i>

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<i>the most</i>

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well-kept secret

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in the military circle
of Brazil.

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We're in
Sao Paulo, Brazil,

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about to go and investigate

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the infamous
1996 Varginha UFO incident.

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An alleged crash
and reported bodies.

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So we're gonna go see...

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Oh, okay. No problem.

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I'm basically trying
to figure out what took place

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in Varginha, Brazil,
January 1996.

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Many people say there was
a UFO crash,

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debris and bodies recovered.

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My objective here in Brazil
is to find out,

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put some clarity on,
what happened

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and where this debris
ultimately ended up.

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I wanna hear from her.

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<i>James Fox teams up</i>
<i>with Brazilian researcher</i>
<i>Marco Leal,</i>

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<i>who has been investigating</i>
<i>the Varginha case since 2006.</i>

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<i>Together they meet</i>
<i>Cynthia Covo in Sao Paulo,</i>
<i>to go over the case.</i>

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- So...
- Yeah.

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This is the daughter
of one of the most famous

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- UFO researchers
in all of Brazil.
- Yeah.

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- And he is no longer with us.
- Yes.

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So she has brought
some of his research,

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illustrations, documentation

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from the 1996 Varginha
UFO incident.

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An unidentified flying object
reportedly crashes,

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and then you have beings

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associated with the craft,
alive and walking through
the town.

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It sounds so spectacular,

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it sounds so unbelievable,

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it's hard to wrap your mind
around it.

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And I didn't believe it
when I first heard about it.

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This is the design.

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The girls drew this
for her father.

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- That's her father.
- Yeah.

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They were in the fire...
fireman station.

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So this is the fireman that...

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They believe this fireman
was involved in the capture?

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Oralina, Eurico.

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And they saw a UFO
that looked like it was
definitely gonna crash?

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Liliane and Valquiria.

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- Right after they saw
the creature?
- Yes.

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- Marco Cherese?
- Yeah.

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- Who captured the creature
with his bare hands.
- Yes.

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And later died.

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This is an original artist's
rendition of what the girls saw.

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Wow!

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Wow, look at that.

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Brazil is one of the most
amazing locations on Earth.

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- I mean, you've got Ubatuba
in the '50s.
- Yeah.

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You've got Colares,
Operacao Prato.

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You've got 1986,
UFOs over Brazil
with Sao Paulo.

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It was amazing. I met with
a radar operator.

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And then you have this crash
in 1996 in Varginha.

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These are some of the
best cases in the world.

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<i>1957.</i>

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<i>Witnesses observe an object</i>
<i>descending at extreme speed</i>

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<i>from the skies</i>
<i>towards Toninhas Beach.</i>

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<i>Before hitting the water,</i>
<i>it explodes.</i>

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<i>Fragments collected</i>
<i>on the beach are sent to a lab</i>
<i>to be analyzed.</i>

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<i>This headline reads,</i>

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<i>Scientific analysis confirms</i>
<i>extraterrestrial magnesium</i>

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<i>from the alleged</i>
<i>Ubatuba flying saucer.</i>

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- <i>Photographer</i>
<i>Almiro Barauna</i>

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<i>and the crew aboard</i>
<i>a Brazilian navy vessel</i>

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<i>- witness</i>
<i>a disc-shaped object</i>

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<i>maneuvering over the ocean.</i>

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<i>- He grabs his camera</i>
<i>and takes these shots.</i>

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<i>Previously classified </i>
<i> Brazilian Air Force documents</i>

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<i>contain accounts</i>
<i>of several UFOs</i>

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<i>witnessed by both civilians</i>
<i>and military personnel.</i>

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<i>Shown here</i>
<i>are several unknown craft</i>

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<i>captured on camera</i>
<i>by the Brazilian Air Force.</i>

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<i>Some officers even claimed</i>
<i>to see occupants.</i>

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<i>1986.</i>

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<i>- Over Sao Paulo,</i>
<i>six Brazilian fighter jets</i>

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<i>chase more than a dozen UFOs.</i>

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<i>The Ministry</i>
<i>of the Air Force confirms</i>
<i>this encounter</i>

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<i>in a press conference.</i>

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- She got to meet
Carlos de Sousa?
- Yes.

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- In 1996?
- Yeah.

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- And he was the man
who saw the UFO crash.
- Yes.

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Going back to 1996
and seeing the witnesses

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and seeing the location
of the creatures,

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seeing the
original illustration...

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You know, the rendition
of what the creature

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looked like from 1996
and holding it in my hands,

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it was fascinating!

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And the photograph
of the military man,
Marco Cherese,

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who apparently handled
one of the creatures.

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I mean, it just takes you
back in time to 1996.

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And it was just a really,
really fortunate opportunity
for us.

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I'm thrilled, and I can't wait
to get to Varginha,
to be honest with you.

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You could just say
hypothetically, for a moment,
if it did happen,

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how significant of an event
would it be?

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I bet you that everyone
would say,

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there's nothing more significant
than this story.

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If it were true.

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I just ask people
to suspend judgement,

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listen to the testimony,
and then draw
your own conclusions.

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Hey, we're just gonna
drop me off or something.

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Get some drinks
while they go around the block,
or wait.

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<i>Upon arrival</i>
<i>in Varginha,</i>

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<i>the filmmakers want</i>
<i>to hear from locals</i>

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<i>regarding the alleged</i>
<i>1996 UFO crash.</i>

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<i>A large monument in the shape</i>
<i>of a flying saucer</i>

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<i>is a clear indication</i>
<i>that the town embraces</i>
<i>the story.</i>

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Armed with handmade signs
that read,

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<i>"If anyone knows what happened</i>
<i>in 1996, please talk to us."</i>

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<i>The team takes to the streets.</i>

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What does he think
about the case?

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- Does he think it happened
or it didn't happen?

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What are your feelings
on Varginha?

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The 1996 Varginha UFO incident,
what do you think?

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Things are heating up
right now, guys.

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Like, we're finding
some witnesses.

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- These guys is really
important here.
- Okay, let's bring it.

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They see a UFO.
The UFO gets closer to them,

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to the point where
it's at the height
of that street light.

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Okay, so then what happens?

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So a lot of people in this town
have a little piece
of the puzzle.

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We were only here
for an hour-and-a-half,

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and I can't believe
how many people
we got to come forward.

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What I love about this case
is it's recent enough

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where people either
heard accounts or experienced
things themselves.

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So, right now, we are going
to meet with

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the mayor of Varginha.

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So I'm very curious
if an elected official
will talk about

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the details of the case
and whether he believes
it really happened.

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These sorts of things.

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- Look at this.
- Oh, that's nice.

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- That's great.
- Yeah.

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I'm extremely curious,

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as an elected official,
the mayor of Varginha,

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does he believe
that this case happened

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as the witnesses
are reporting it
to have happened?

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The witnesses in Varginha,
for me, are some of the most

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compelling testimony
I've ever heard.

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- So I didn't believe that

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a UFO crashed
in Varginha, Brazil,
when I first came here.

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But after 10 years...

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I wouldn't have imagined
getting an interview with...

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an elected official
like the mayor of Varginha.

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If you would have told me
I'd be doing that ten years ago,
I wouldn't have believed it.

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Not only that,
but he was, basically,

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saying that he felt
that the Varginha case was true,
that it really happened.

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I think we have to
remind ourselves how far
we've come in the last decade.

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Put me on that farm
in January of 1996.

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What happened?

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<i>1996.</i>

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<i>Crash witness Carlos de Sousa</i>

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<i>describes a similar object</i>
<i>in this exclusive interview.</i>

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<i>January 13th, 1996.</i>

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<i>Carlos de Sousa</i>
<i>is traveling from Sao Paulo</i>

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<i>to Minas Gerais</i>
<i>early in the morning,</i>

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<i>planning to meet with friends</i>

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<i>to fly ultra-light planes.</i>

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<i>Now, 26 years later,</i>

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<i>the team travels with</i>
<i>Carlos de Sousa</i>
<i>to find the crash site.</i>

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Turn around. Right.

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Careful of the dust.
He's trying to remember.

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So where the trees were?

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He doesn't... remember.

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But he thinks it's this way.
Because it's been 26 years...

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Is this looking familiar?
There's a house up there.

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But if it's close to a house,
then it's gotta be
further down this way.

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Unless the house is gone.

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- I think the house is gone.
- You do?

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- He's asking you to stop.
- Stop?

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Right. Let's go.

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- What does that mean?
- Yeah, like big grass.

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It was around here.

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Okay.

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- He wants to go there.
- Okay.

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- So it was a white house,
and it was a small house.
- Yeah, it was a small house.

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- So...
- The grass was burned.

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The grass was burned.
Why was the grass burned?

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- So, is the house gone?
- It was around here.

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The house is gone?

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He doesn't know.
Everything's different.

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I mean, it could be here,
or it could be there.

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We walk over to there
and look.

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If it's close to the road,
it only can be
in a couple of places.

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Does he wanna walk up
closer to it.

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He said the house was close
to where the crash was.

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- Yeah.
- 200 meters.

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- Yeah, it's like...
- 600 feet.

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It's my only...
My only house.

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Family. My only family.

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Well, I say we...
I say we take a closer look.

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- I mean...
- Yeah.

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You know?

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Yeah, we gotta do it, man.
We got to find this spot!

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There's a lot of trees.

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Is there a house down there?

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Yeah, there's a house
right down to these trees.
Yeah.

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Well, let's get closer
to there then.

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Let's drive down the road.

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Let's drive down to get closer.

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There's a house.

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This isn't a field.

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Yes, yes!

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Here. Here!

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Wow!

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Wow!

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This is the spot.

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Was this object big enough

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to have, potentially,
beings inside?

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<i>According to</i>
<i>Mr. Sousa,</i>

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<i>this area was covered </i>
<i>with debris from the UFO crash.</i>

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00:30:08,323 --> 00:30:12,949
<i>This is his first time</i>
<i>at the crash site since 1996.</i>

227
00:31:13,457 --> 00:31:14,873
<i>So he gets out of the car.</i>

228
00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:16,598
<i>He sees the piece, right?</i>

229
00:31:16,633 --> 00:31:18,359
<i>He picks the piece up.</i>

230
00:31:18,393 --> 00:31:20,154
He folds it. He said
it was really light,

231
00:31:20,188 --> 00:31:21,845
and it was shaped
kind of like this.

232
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,192
- Yeah.
- And then he picked it up
and he folded it

233
00:31:24,227 --> 00:31:25,849
and then it opens itself up.

234
00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:27,161
And it was really light.

235
00:31:27,195 --> 00:31:28,783
- Yes.
- Like aluminum.

236
00:31:28,817 --> 00:31:32,683
At what point did the military
come to him?

237
00:31:32,718 --> 00:31:34,513
- Right after that happened?
- Yes.

238
00:31:34,547 --> 00:31:36,515
The military came
from this way and arrived?

239
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:38,241
Yeah.

240
00:31:38,275 --> 00:31:41,416
Carlos Sousa came from here
and the trucks came
from that side.

241
00:31:41,451 --> 00:31:43,625
Okay.

242
00:31:43,660 --> 00:31:48,803
<i>Within minutes,</i>
<i>trucks from the military base,</i>
<i>ESA, arrive on the scene.</i>

243
00:31:48,837 --> 00:31:50,701
- Wah, wah? Go away?
- Yeah.

244
00:31:53,325 --> 00:31:54,222
I think some guy...

245
00:32:07,097 --> 00:32:08,409
What does <i>"borra"</i> mean?

246
00:32:08,443 --> 00:32:10,238
- Go away! Go away!
Go away!
- Go away?

247
00:32:10,273 --> 00:32:12,965
Go away! Go away!
And I'm ordering.

248
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,416
I'm ordering you?
I'm ordering you to go away?

249
00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:17,211
- Yeah.
- So then he pulled his gun out?

250
00:32:17,245 --> 00:32:19,316
- Yes.
- And he said I'm ordering you
to go away.

251
00:32:24,425 --> 00:32:25,460
Wow!

252
00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:32,847
<i>After giving</i>
<i>this interview</i>
<i>shortly after the incident,</i>

253
00:32:34,642 --> 00:32:38,508
<i>Carlos de Sousa</i>
<i>vanishes for 26 years.</i>

254
00:32:54,489 --> 00:32:55,525
- Mark it.

255
00:32:57,561 --> 00:33:00,771
Can we just walk to
where exactly this
took place?

256
00:33:00,806 --> 00:33:03,912
<i>Seven days</i>
<i>after Sousa witnessed</i>
<i>the crash,</i>

257
00:33:03,947 --> 00:33:06,743
<i>Hubert Ladera leaves this gym</i>

258
00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:10,989
<i>when he and several friends</i>
<i>see two military trucks</i>
<i>driving into town.</i>

259
00:33:14,337 --> 00:33:16,615
<i>They follow them</i>
<i>through the neighborhood</i>

260
00:33:16,649 --> 00:33:20,032
<i>and come upon</i>
<i>a military blockade.</i>

261
00:33:35,703 --> 00:33:37,429
One of the people
in his group said,

262
00:33:37,463 --> 00:33:39,879
this is a free country,
and I'm going through.

263
00:33:39,914 --> 00:33:40,984
It was him.

264
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,158
- Oh, it was him?
- Yeah.

265
00:33:46,679 --> 00:33:48,681
So he said,
hey, this is a free country.

266
00:33:48,716 --> 00:33:49,648
I'll do what I want.

267
00:33:49,682 --> 00:33:50,511
And then what happens?

268
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,923
This is the local
TV news station that covered
the case back in 1996.

269
00:34:57,957 --> 00:34:59,131
He was deeply involved.

270
00:34:59,166 --> 00:35:01,133
He was also good friends
with Marco Cherese,

271
00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:03,308
who's the military
police officer who, allegedly,

272
00:35:03,342 --> 00:35:05,068
handled the creature
and then died.

273
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:06,932
- Thank you.
- Yes, of course.

274
00:35:06,966 --> 00:35:08,899
- Absolutely.

275
00:35:10,038 --> 00:35:12,455
Describe what happened
back in 1996.

276
00:35:12,489 --> 00:35:14,422
What you witnessed,
what you saw.

277
00:36:49,276 --> 00:36:51,726
So is he saying
that the military
shut down the press?

278
00:36:51,761 --> 00:36:52,900
- Yes.
- Successfully.

279
00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:54,177
- Yes.
- They don't have a free press.

280
00:36:54,212 --> 00:36:56,041
- And they say...
- They don't have a free press.

281
00:36:56,075 --> 00:37:01,288
No. If they If they say,
if they would have go,
like, investigate further,

282
00:37:01,322 --> 00:37:03,773
they probably would have
put them in jail.

283
00:37:25,070 --> 00:37:27,969
Okay, I'll quickly mention.

284
00:37:28,004 --> 00:37:31,939
So we have, uh,
we have special authorization

285
00:37:31,973 --> 00:37:34,182
from the city of Varginha,

286
00:37:34,217 --> 00:37:37,047
and we have a universal key

287
00:37:37,082 --> 00:37:42,605
which is provided to us
by, I think, Katia's husband.

288
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,539
And so we're going to film
the use of the special key

289
00:37:45,573 --> 00:37:49,715
to gain access
to the exact location
where the encounter occurred

290
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:52,097
back in January of 1996.

291
00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:53,409
Action.

292
00:38:05,110 --> 00:38:06,732
There we go.

293
00:38:06,767 --> 00:38:09,666
- Did you see how easy that was?

294
00:38:16,742 --> 00:38:17,985
<i>I wanted to</i>
<i>film here</i>

295
00:38:18,019 --> 00:38:22,196
because this is obviously
going to invoke memories

296
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:25,475
of the encounter, and I think
that we're going to get
a more dramatic,

297
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:28,961
more real, um,
on camera testimony
from the girls,

298
00:38:28,996 --> 00:38:31,723
doing it here
as opposed to somewhere else.

299
00:38:59,578 --> 00:39:02,305
<i>Media across Brazil</i>
<i>and the world</i>

300
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:03,824
<i>cover the story.</i>

301
00:39:39,515 --> 00:39:41,344
Tell us, walk us through
what happened.

302
00:39:42,656 --> 00:39:43,691
What did you see?

303
00:39:43,726 --> 00:39:44,589
Where did you see it?

304
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,555
<i>1996,</i>

305
00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:56,695
<i>based on the girl's testimony,</i>

306
00:40:56,730 --> 00:40:59,077
<i>artist Betty Rodriguez,</i>

307
00:40:59,111 --> 00:41:00,596
<i>creates this drawing.</i>

308
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,915
<i>What I find</i>
<i>makes their stories</i>
<i>so credible</i>

309
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:11,779
<i>is that there were</i>
<i>three of them.</i>

310
00:41:11,814 --> 00:41:15,334
I want to hear from Valquiria
because she was the youngest.

311
00:41:15,369 --> 00:41:16,957
What were her thoughts
at the time?

312
00:41:16,991 --> 00:41:19,097
Was she scared? Did you run?

313
00:41:19,131 --> 00:41:20,478
Like, put me there.

314
00:41:46,642 --> 00:41:49,610
These eyes
compared to my eyes,

315
00:41:49,645 --> 00:41:51,094
how much bigger?

316
00:41:53,683 --> 00:41:55,858
- Three times bigger.
- Three times bigger.

317
00:42:01,139 --> 00:42:02,899
I want to walk over by the wall,

318
00:42:02,934 --> 00:42:06,662
and I want you to tell me
where exactly the creature was.

319
00:42:08,387 --> 00:42:10,528
- Wow!

320
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:12,564
Really close.

321
00:42:17,362 --> 00:42:20,710
I didn't realize it's closer
than I expected,

322
00:42:20,745 --> 00:42:23,333
I mean,
it's like eight-feet away.

323
00:42:23,368 --> 00:42:25,508
They were eight-feet away
from this creature.
Broad daylight.

324
00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:27,475
It was 3:30 in the afternoon.

325
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:29,719
This is the exact location.

326
00:42:29,754 --> 00:42:32,653
When she made eye contact
with this creature,

327
00:42:32,688 --> 00:42:35,518
was there a moment
of any kind of communication?

328
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,416
Did she feel anything at all?

329
00:43:05,686 --> 00:43:08,068
Okay, so this is,
uh, Valquiria.

330
00:43:08,724 --> 00:43:09,794
This is Katia.

331
00:43:09,828 --> 00:43:11,140
<i>- Sim.</i>
- And this is Liliane.

332
00:43:12,244 --> 00:43:14,005
You see the, the eyes.

333
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:16,007
They didn't draw a nose,
they didn't draw a mouth.

334
00:43:16,041 --> 00:43:17,629
It was all about the eyes.

335
00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:30,124
I want to understand,

336
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:33,403
uh, first of all,
the moment of contact
with the eye,

337
00:43:33,438 --> 00:43:35,198
with the eyes, meeting the eyes.

338
00:43:35,233 --> 00:43:37,649
I really want to be there.
I want to feel it.

339
00:43:37,684 --> 00:43:41,619
When they locked eyes
with this being,
what were they thinking?

340
00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:08,266
They all ran out of here
quickly,

341
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:09,508
so they were scared.

342
00:44:09,543 --> 00:44:11,441
Were they scared
because they felt threatened,

343
00:44:11,476 --> 00:44:13,685
or were they scared
because they just
simply didn't know

344
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:14,652
what they were looking at?

345
00:45:05,564 --> 00:45:09,016
So the three girls
run to her house,

346
00:45:09,051 --> 00:45:11,536
and they say,
"We saw this creature

347
00:45:11,570 --> 00:45:14,297
that might have been the devil
or whatever it was."

348
00:45:14,332 --> 00:45:17,853
And they, do they,
do they get in the car
and drive here?

349
00:45:17,887 --> 00:45:19,233
Do they walk here?

350
00:45:19,268 --> 00:45:21,235
How did they get here?
And what do they see
when they got here?

351
00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:51,438
Can she draw the footprint?

352
00:45:51,472 --> 00:45:52,715
The shape of the footprint?

353
00:46:00,827 --> 00:46:02,760
- Yes. <i>Sim, sim.</i>

354
00:47:08,204 --> 00:47:11,000
That's the exact location
where the girls saw the creature

355
00:47:11,035 --> 00:47:14,003
right through that wall
where we filmed already
with the girls.

356
00:47:14,038 --> 00:47:16,695
I didn't realize
that Marco Chereze,
the military officer,

357
00:47:16,730 --> 00:47:18,801
who allegedly captured
the creature,

358
00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:21,493
with his bare hands,
did it right over here.

359
00:47:24,289 --> 00:47:26,291
<i>Roughly three hours</i>
<i>after the girls witnessed</i>

360
00:47:26,326 --> 00:47:28,328
<i>the strange creature,</i>

361
00:47:28,362 --> 00:47:31,434
<i>Military police officers</i>
<i>Eddie Lopes</i>

362
00:47:31,469 --> 00:47:34,506
<i>and Marco Chereze</i>
<i>drive down this road</i>

363
00:47:34,541 --> 00:47:36,750
<i>on the lookout</i>
<i>for something unusual.</i>

364
00:47:38,752 --> 00:47:41,859
<i>When suddenly,</i>
<i>it runs right across</i>
<i>their path.</i>

365
00:47:56,252 --> 00:47:59,428
It was captured by Marco Chereze

366
00:47:59,462 --> 00:48:01,948
with his bare hands easily

367
00:48:01,982 --> 00:48:03,259
<i>and taken to the hospital.</i>

368
00:48:05,434 --> 00:48:07,643
<i>After he captured the creature,</i>

369
00:48:07,677 --> 00:48:13,235
he was smelling the creature
in his body and his clothes.

370
00:48:13,269 --> 00:48:18,240
Because he had
this strange feeling
of something greasy, sticky,

371
00:48:18,274 --> 00:48:20,898
over his body
that came from the creature.

372
00:48:23,797 --> 00:48:25,626
<i>He developed this,</i>
<i>this infection</i>

373
00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:28,181
<i>that wouldn't go away.</i>

374
00:48:29,423 --> 00:48:31,909
<i>And for two or three weeks</i>

375
00:48:31,943 --> 00:48:36,430
it was getting worse and worse
and worse.

376
00:48:36,465 --> 00:48:41,159
And it looks like
that his immunity system
was shut down.

377
00:48:41,194 --> 00:48:46,164
This were the words
used by one of the doctors
who treated him,

378
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:51,825
who said that he never saw
in his whole medical career

379
00:48:51,859 --> 00:48:53,275
anything like that.

380
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,247
<i>And that infection killed him.</i>

381
00:50:01,067 --> 00:50:02,827
All the witnesses

382
00:50:02,861 --> 00:50:07,521
that claim that Marco Chereze
handled a creature,

383
00:50:07,556 --> 00:50:10,490
a strange creature,
doesn't have to be
from another world,

384
00:50:10,524 --> 00:50:12,078
it was a strange creature,

385
00:50:12,112 --> 00:50:14,114
he gets some unknown infection.

386
00:50:14,149 --> 00:50:16,116
You did everything you could
to save him,

387
00:50:16,151 --> 00:50:17,773
and he died.

388
00:50:17,807 --> 00:50:20,741
Do you believe
that there's some credibility
to that story?

389
00:51:17,177 --> 00:51:19,421
<i>When her brother</i>
<i>falls ill,</i>

390
00:51:19,455 --> 00:51:22,596
<i>she asks about his involvement</i>
<i>with the case.</i>

391
00:51:34,884 --> 00:51:36,438
<i>On February 10th,</i>

392
00:51:36,472 --> 00:51:39,924
<i>Marco Chereze is admitted</i>
<i>to regional hospital.</i>

393
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,677
Roger, what's the main purpose
that you could to Varginha
for a new ecological research?

394
00:52:43,712 --> 00:52:45,817
The main purpose for being here,

395
00:52:45,852 --> 00:52:51,409
uh, is to look at
the physical evidence aspect
of this case,

396
00:52:51,444 --> 00:52:53,377
uh, which is what
I specialize in.

397
00:52:54,205 --> 00:52:58,692
It is June, the 7th 2002,

398
00:52:58,727 --> 00:53:02,869
and I am here in Varginha,
Brazil,

399
00:53:02,903 --> 00:53:08,046
with the chief investigator
on the Varginha episode,

400
00:53:08,081 --> 00:53:09,841
Ubirajara Rodrigues.

401
00:53:25,547 --> 00:53:30,690
<i>2002,</i>
<i>renowned UFO researcher,</i>
<i>Dr. Roger Leir,</i>

402
00:53:30,724 --> 00:53:34,866
<i>travels to Varginha</i>
<i>to investigate the case.</i>

403
00:53:34,901 --> 00:53:37,938
<i>He documents</i>
<i>multiple key witnesses</i>
<i>on video.</i>

404
00:53:39,285 --> 00:53:42,046
<i>This footage</i>
<i>has never been released.</i>

405
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:49,018
She is the wife
of a deceased member
of the military police.

406
00:53:49,053 --> 00:53:51,918
I think we should at least know
what her husband's name was.

407
00:53:57,337 --> 00:54:00,720
Does she know
if anyone has seen
a medical report?

408
00:54:13,595 --> 00:54:15,700
Oh, they took a long time
to deliver it,

409
00:54:15,735 --> 00:54:20,049
and they asked for money,
and they,
and there were missing pages.

410
00:54:28,126 --> 00:54:29,576
Once she lose,

411
00:54:29,611 --> 00:54:31,992
she searched for explanations,
but nobody would give any.

412
00:54:33,408 --> 00:54:36,618
Was Marco Chereze
the only person infected

413
00:54:38,136 --> 00:54:39,206
who died?

414
00:54:39,241 --> 00:54:40,794
We don't know.

415
00:54:40,829 --> 00:54:43,280
Where, uh, these two creatures

416
00:54:43,314 --> 00:54:46,662
the only ones that remain alive
after the crash?

417
00:54:46,697 --> 00:54:47,836
We don't know.

418
00:54:47,870 --> 00:54:53,151
We only have, uh,
very detailed information

419
00:54:53,186 --> 00:54:56,948
about the existence
and the capture of these two.

420
00:54:56,983 --> 00:55:01,712
One capture in the morning
and one at evening
of the same day,

421
00:55:01,746 --> 00:55:03,438
January 20, 1996.

422
00:55:05,854 --> 00:55:07,856
<i>According to</i>
<i>credible reports,</i>

423
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:10,514
<i>there were two captures</i>
<i>on January 20th.</i>

424
00:55:12,378 --> 00:55:14,552
<i>Hours before</i>
<i>the girls' encounter,</i>

425
00:55:14,587 --> 00:55:17,762
<i>the fire brigade captured</i>
<i>a being.</i>

426
00:55:17,797 --> 00:55:19,971
<i>This capture</i>
<i>was thoroughly investigated</i>

427
00:55:20,006 --> 00:55:23,285
<i>by leading Brazilian researcher</i>
<i>and lawyer</i>

428
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,322
<i>Ubirajara Rodrigues.</i>

429
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,512
<i>This is</i>
<i>the fire department...</i>

430
00:55:43,547 --> 00:55:46,860
<i>Dr. Leir teamed up</i>
<i>with Ubirajara.</i>

431
00:55:46,895 --> 00:55:49,967
<i>They questioned</i>
<i>the fire battalion</i>
<i>allegedly involved</i>

432
00:55:50,001 --> 00:55:52,141
<i>in the capture</i>
<i>of the first creature.</i>

433
00:55:52,176 --> 00:55:54,627
This is the creature.

434
00:55:54,661 --> 00:55:58,838
And this is a, kind of,
equipment that is used
to catch it.

435
00:55:58,872 --> 00:56:01,875
<i>The fire department </i>
<i>was dispatched to this location</i>

436
00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:05,672
<i>after receiving several calls</i>
<i>from concerned residents</i>

437
00:56:05,707 --> 00:56:08,882
<i>who reported seeing</i>
<i>something strange in the area.</i>

438
00:57:06,077 --> 00:57:09,736
The Army truck
entered by this gate here.

439
00:57:09,771 --> 00:57:12,601
Got in over here.

440
00:57:14,292 --> 00:57:16,536
Got the creature
already dead from inside.

441
00:57:20,471 --> 00:57:22,093
The presence
of several elements

442
00:57:22,128 --> 00:57:24,441
from the military police,
from the Army...

443
00:57:24,475 --> 00:57:27,789
- ...several doctors, nurses...

444
00:57:30,101 --> 00:57:32,863
This convoy left the place
and went to Tres Coracoes.

445
00:57:32,897 --> 00:57:35,382
<i>Both creatures</i>
<i>left at the same time.</i>

446
00:57:39,317 --> 00:57:42,769
And the creature
that was alive
got to Campinas alive.

447
00:58:00,891 --> 00:58:03,480
<i>The team drives</i>
<i>to meet with a family</i>

448
00:58:03,514 --> 00:58:07,794
<i>who saw a UFO</i>
<i>hovering over the area</i>
<i>of the encounter</i>

449
00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:08,761
<i>and capture.</i>

450
00:58:12,350 --> 00:58:13,317
Okay, let me ask.

451
00:58:14,111 --> 00:58:16,493
- Let me ask.
- Yeah.

452
00:58:16,527 --> 00:58:19,323
How about we film
the back of their heads
talking to me?

453
00:58:19,979 --> 00:58:21,290
Like, I don't know.

454
00:58:28,297 --> 00:58:30,645
- Hey, Fernanda,
we have two options.
- Okay.

455
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:35,373
Okay. One, we blur his faces,
no problem,
and we will do that.

456
00:58:35,408 --> 00:58:40,724
Two, we film from the backside
and their and their faces
aren't seen ever.

457
00:58:40,758 --> 00:58:46,557
Like doctors, and they all saw
the UFO right over this area.

458
00:58:46,592 --> 00:58:51,286
It looked like they were looking
for something, like it was doing
a grid search.

459
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,357
And this is
a very respectable family.

460
00:58:53,391 --> 00:58:56,256
They don't want their faces
on camera.

461
00:58:56,291 --> 00:58:57,844
They want to talk and tell
what they saw,

462
00:58:57,879 --> 00:59:00,088
but they don't want their faces
revealed on camera,

463
00:59:00,122 --> 00:59:01,676
which happens.

464
00:59:02,918 --> 00:59:04,955
Okay, so we're standing

465
00:59:04,989 --> 00:59:08,545
in very near the area
where the girls saw
the creature.

466
00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:10,892
<i>It was 1996, January.</i>

467
00:59:10,926 --> 00:59:14,240
<i>This entire family</i>
<i>saw something</i>
<i>they want to share with us,</i>

468
00:59:14,274 --> 00:59:16,483
<i>but they don't want to have</i>
<i>their faces revealed.</i>

469
00:59:16,518 --> 00:59:18,002
<i>So what did they see?</i>

470
01:01:01,727 --> 01:01:03,349
Did I hear... I heard Americana.

471
01:01:03,383 --> 01:01:04,661
- He stayed American.
- Yes.

472
01:01:04,695 --> 01:01:06,214
What was that about?

473
01:01:07,180 --> 01:01:09,113
Some American officials...

474
01:01:09,148 --> 01:01:12,876
- Came here.
- ...came here to talk about
what they saw.

475
01:01:12,910 --> 01:01:14,601
- Yes.
- Americans?

476
01:01:14,636 --> 01:01:16,983
Were they military?
Were they police?

477
01:01:17,812 --> 01:01:18,709
Who were they?

478
01:01:36,002 --> 01:01:39,419
Is there any way
that there is
a conventional explanation

479
01:01:39,454 --> 01:01:41,456
to what they saw?

480
01:02:09,898 --> 01:02:11,451
I just want to go over

481
01:02:12,590 --> 01:02:15,973
that interview and what I find.

482
01:02:16,008 --> 01:02:20,219
First of all, they hesitated
on whether or not they
even wanted to go on camera.

483
01:02:20,253 --> 01:02:21,945
They canceled yesterday.

484
01:02:21,979 --> 01:02:25,258
Today they were like,
"Hmm. We don't want...

485
01:02:25,293 --> 01:02:27,398
Oh, sorry...

486
01:02:27,433 --> 01:02:29,538
"We don't want our faces
on camera."

487
01:02:29,573 --> 01:02:33,750
It was like an entire family,
and they all saw this object
and it was really big.

488
01:02:34,405 --> 01:02:35,406
Shaped like a disc,

489
01:02:36,062 --> 01:02:36,960
zero noise.

490
01:02:38,133 --> 01:02:39,894
You have witnesses like that.

491
01:02:39,928 --> 01:02:43,069
They're friends of the doctor,
the guy that we rent
the house from.

492
01:02:43,104 --> 01:02:47,246
That you could just tell
they've been sitting
on that story for 26 years.

493
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,938
How excited he was
to finally share it.

494
01:03:53,381 --> 01:03:57,695
There was unusual activity
at the base.

495
01:03:57,730 --> 01:04:01,803
There were helicopters
from the Navy,

496
01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:03,632
which in itself was unusual.

497
01:04:03,667 --> 01:04:04,702
He sees a box.

498
01:04:06,566 --> 01:04:07,740
Was the box unusual?

499
01:05:18,224 --> 01:05:22,746
So to this day, has he spoken
to any of them
that went to Varginha?

500
01:05:23,436 --> 01:05:26,370
- No, no.
- Nothing.

501
01:05:26,405 --> 01:05:28,131
- Yeah.
- Wow.

502
01:05:33,895 --> 01:05:35,345
<i>According to</i>
<i>the witness,</i>

503
01:05:35,379 --> 01:05:38,072
<i>it wasn't only the drivers</i>
<i>who were never seen again.</i>

504
01:05:38,969 --> 01:05:41,730
<i>Their Captain Edson Ramirez,</i>

505
01:05:41,765 --> 01:05:44,354
<i>also left without a word.</i>

506
01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:13,521
<i>January, 1996.</i>

507
01:06:13,555 --> 01:06:17,421
<i>A radiologist</i>
<i>has an unexpected visit</i>
<i>by the military</i>

508
01:06:17,456 --> 01:06:19,527
<i>while on duty</i>
<i>at regional hospital.</i>

509
01:06:20,424 --> 01:06:22,530
<i>He agrees to share his story,</i>

510
01:06:22,564 --> 01:06:25,326
<i>provided his identity</i>
<i>remains concealed.</i>

511
01:06:44,690 --> 01:06:46,761
So we have a big
military presence

512
01:06:46,795 --> 01:06:48,383
on the outside of the hospital.

513
01:06:48,418 --> 01:06:50,213
We've got two army
and two police

514
01:06:50,247 --> 01:06:52,491
on the inside of the hospital
with a box

515
01:06:52,525 --> 01:06:55,011
and something
inside of a black zip body bag.

516
01:08:05,943 --> 01:08:07,738
But what did it smell like?

517
01:08:13,779 --> 01:08:18,370
When they took whatever it was
in that black bag,

518
01:08:18,404 --> 01:08:23,202
and they left the hospital,
the military and the police
with that bag

519
01:08:23,237 --> 01:08:24,376
and that thing,

520
01:08:25,653 --> 01:08:26,826
<i>did the smell leave?</i>

521
01:08:57,202 --> 01:09:02,241
Three of the most strange,
bizarre points,

522
01:09:03,518 --> 01:09:06,521
of this encounter.

523
01:09:40,900 --> 01:09:42,799
Probably about ten months ago,

524
01:09:44,387 --> 01:09:46,872
Marco managed to reach

525
01:09:48,045 --> 01:09:50,669
a vetted, legitimate witness

526
01:09:50,703 --> 01:09:56,537
who was involved
in the transportation
of the, they call them E.T.

527
01:09:56,571 --> 01:09:58,366
or the being.

528
01:09:58,401 --> 01:10:02,715
Um, this guy was so scared,

529
01:10:02,750 --> 01:10:07,030
uh, Marco spent, I think,
eight to ten months,

530
01:10:07,064 --> 01:10:11,207
slowly developing a relationship
with this guy.

531
01:10:11,241 --> 01:10:17,282
And about four days ago
he agreed to meet with me
and Marco, just the two of us.

532
01:10:17,316 --> 01:10:19,939
So we drove late into the night,

533
01:10:19,974 --> 01:10:23,771
we met him at a bar.
When he arrived,
he was with another guy.

534
01:10:25,566 --> 01:10:27,671
He took us
to a different location.

535
01:10:27,706 --> 01:10:30,812
We sat outside and we talked
for a couple of hours

536
01:10:30,847 --> 01:10:34,264
about coming forward,
appearing in the documentary.

537
01:10:34,299 --> 01:10:38,337
I've never ever had
the opportunity
to interview a witness

538
01:10:38,372 --> 01:10:40,753
that potentially handles
an extraterrestrial being.

539
01:10:43,377 --> 01:10:46,552
I'm worried about the military
getting wind of what's going on

540
01:10:46,587 --> 01:10:49,762
because there clearly paying
attention to this witness.

541
01:10:49,797 --> 01:10:52,248
I'm worried about them
getting a phone call,

542
01:10:52,282 --> 01:10:55,527
reminding him of his oath
of secrecy.

543
01:10:55,561 --> 01:10:58,875
I don't want to put
someone else's family
in harm's way.

544
01:11:01,533 --> 01:11:03,776
So you're always,
in the back of your mind,

545
01:11:03,811 --> 01:11:05,744
in a situation like this,

546
01:11:05,778 --> 01:11:08,298
you know that at any moment,
the carpet can get pulled out
from under you,

547
01:11:08,333 --> 01:11:11,370
and it's not a done deal
until it's a done deal.

548
01:11:11,405 --> 01:11:14,511
Listen. I wonder
if we should rent a hotel room

549
01:11:14,546 --> 01:11:16,996
and then have him come to us.

550
01:11:17,031 --> 01:11:20,068
Because, then we can get
all the gear
inside the hotel room

551
01:11:20,103 --> 01:11:22,312
and then he can just show up
and walk in.

552
01:11:22,347 --> 01:11:25,798
We can, we can stop
at the gas station.

553
01:11:25,833 --> 01:11:29,630
<i>Marco coordinates</i>
<i>with the witness,</i>
<i>military Ex,</i>

554
01:11:29,664 --> 01:11:31,735
<i>to secure a safe</i>
<i>meeting location.</i>

555
01:11:31,770 --> 01:11:35,843
Yes. I made appointment
with him in the some hotel
right here.

556
01:11:35,877 --> 01:11:37,741
Close to here and then,
so I think we have to drove...

557
01:11:37,776 --> 01:11:39,950
- We go to the hotel first.
- Yeah, we go...

558
01:11:39,985 --> 01:11:42,125
- Check in
and then he just walks in.
- Exactly.

559
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:43,437
- Yeah, that's good.

560
01:11:48,062 --> 01:11:51,237
I feel that, that anxiety
in my stomach, you know?

561
01:11:52,515 --> 01:11:53,481
It's just like...

562
01:11:55,794 --> 01:12:00,419
We pull this off
and it's just like first time.

563
01:12:00,454 --> 01:12:02,248
It will be the most
compelling testimony

564
01:12:02,283 --> 01:12:04,665
ever revealed on the history
of this case.

565
01:12:06,322 --> 01:12:09,359
- Oh, my God.
This hill's so steep.
- I know.

566
01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:17,643
Entrada,
this is the hotel.

567
01:12:17,678 --> 01:12:19,542
I would get a quick shot of it,

568
01:12:19,576 --> 01:12:21,544
and I'd shut these
cameras off right now.

569
01:12:22,959 --> 01:12:24,270
Can you guys do that?

570
01:12:24,305 --> 01:12:25,202
Shut everything off.

571
01:12:28,033 --> 01:12:28,861
Guys?

572
01:12:29,828 --> 01:12:30,725
- Yeah.
- Right.

573
01:12:31,277 --> 01:12:32,209
Right here.

574
01:12:34,246 --> 01:12:36,455
Here? Fuck!
This room is small.

575
01:12:36,490 --> 01:12:38,975
You can't even
use these cameras in here.

576
01:12:39,009 --> 01:12:40,321
Oh, my God!

577
01:12:40,356 --> 01:12:42,910
Okay. He's trying to find
the room with two beds.

578
01:12:43,911 --> 01:12:45,015
It'd be better.

579
01:12:45,050 --> 01:12:45,982
- Yeah.
- Yeah.

580
01:12:51,815 --> 01:12:52,644
Mark it.

581
01:12:53,541 --> 01:12:54,715
Okay.

582
01:13:01,031 --> 01:13:02,481
Okay. He's on.

583
01:13:02,516 --> 01:13:08,073
Okay. So we are sitting here
with Military X who clearly

584
01:13:08,107 --> 01:13:09,661
doesn't want his
identity revealed

585
01:13:09,695 --> 01:13:11,283
which we're not going to do.

586
01:13:11,317 --> 01:13:15,460
And he's going to provide
enough detail, not too much,

587
01:13:15,494 --> 01:13:17,496
but enough detail on operations

588
01:13:17,531 --> 01:13:19,671
that he was involved with
with the Varginha case.

589
01:16:36,419 --> 01:16:39,042
<i>When he was in Humanitas,</i>

590
01:16:39,077 --> 01:16:41,562
this is where he saw
part of the creature.

591
01:16:41,597 --> 01:16:45,048
- Yes.
- What was the atmosphere like?

592
01:16:45,083 --> 01:16:50,053
What were the looks on the faces
of the other people in the room?

593
01:16:50,088 --> 01:16:51,676
- Yeah.
- What was it like?

594
01:16:51,710 --> 01:16:53,194
Can he put me in that room?

595
01:17:25,675 --> 01:17:29,403
When you looked
and you saw the leg

596
01:17:29,437 --> 01:17:33,096
or part of the leg
and the foot with the "V"...

597
01:17:33,131 --> 01:17:35,064
- Right.
- ...what did you think?

598
01:18:39,404 --> 01:18:42,372
<i>ESA military base,</i>
<i>is roughly 20 miles</i>

599
01:18:42,407 --> 01:18:43,822
<i>southeast of Varginha.</i>

600
01:18:46,031 --> 01:18:47,377
<i>According to witnesses,</i>

601
01:18:47,412 --> 01:18:50,518
<i>the Army operations</i>
<i>originated from here.</i>

602
01:18:52,382 --> 01:18:57,180
Is there filmed footage,
video footage of the creature

603
01:18:57,215 --> 01:18:58,768
that he knows about?

604
01:19:12,230 --> 01:19:17,407
<i>Military X says</i>
<i>that on January 22nd 1996,</i>

605
01:19:17,442 --> 01:19:18,892
<i>he drove the creature</i>

606
01:19:18,926 --> 01:19:23,759
<i>from Humanitas Hospital</i>
<i>in Varginha to ESA Army Base,</i>

607
01:19:23,793 --> 01:19:25,795
<i>where it would</i>
<i>remain overnight.</i>

608
01:21:03,686 --> 01:21:06,689
Does he have any idea

609
01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:11,659
where the creature went?

610
01:21:11,694 --> 01:21:15,077
Because, uh,
it went to Regionas,

611
01:21:15,111 --> 01:21:19,736
<i>then Humanitas,</i>
<i>then ESA, then Campinas.</i>

612
01:21:19,771 --> 01:21:21,117
And then what happened?

613
01:21:22,808 --> 01:21:26,674
<i>According to Military X,</i>
<i>he transported a creature</i>

614
01:21:26,709 --> 01:21:29,125
<i>from Humanitas Hospital</i>
<i>in Varginha</i>

615
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,577
<i>to ESA military base</i>
<i>and Tres Coracoes</i>

616
01:21:32,611 --> 01:21:34,924
<i>where it stayed for the night.</i>

617
01:21:34,959 --> 01:21:36,581
<i>Early the following morning,</i>

618
01:21:36,615 --> 01:21:38,652
<i>the convoy</i>
<i>continued their mission,</i>

619
01:21:38,686 --> 01:21:41,103
<i>heading south</i>
<i>from Fernao Dias freeway,</i>

620
01:21:41,137 --> 01:21:44,727
<i>then west on Don Pedro</i>
<i>to Espcex army base</i>

621
01:21:44,761 --> 01:21:46,591
<i>in the city of Campinas.</i>

622
01:22:23,455 --> 01:22:25,871
<i>The team meets</i>
<i>with Brazilian Air Force</i>

623
01:22:25,906 --> 01:22:29,496
<i>traffic control officer,</i>
<i>Jose Manuel Fernandez,</i>

624
01:22:30,462 --> 01:22:32,223
<i>his unit was responsible</i>

625
01:22:32,257 --> 01:22:37,124
<i>for monitoring</i>
<i>specific airspace</i>
<i>over the state of Sao Paulo.</i>

626
01:22:37,159 --> 01:22:38,954
Do you know anything
about this case?

627
01:23:26,587 --> 01:23:28,624
Was it Americans involved,

628
01:23:28,658 --> 01:23:30,591
or was it just
the Brazilians involved?

629
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,047
Only Americans. Only.

630
01:23:52,061 --> 01:23:54,822
And how does he know
that the Americans
were involved?

631
01:28:45,699 --> 01:28:47,839
Has anybody seen Eric Lopes?

632
01:28:47,874 --> 01:28:49,807
Has anyone ever
tried to talk to him?

633
01:28:49,841 --> 01:28:52,154
Yeah. People try
to reach him out.

634
01:28:52,188 --> 01:28:53,397
- People have tried?
- Yeah.

635
01:28:53,431 --> 01:28:55,191
And nada?

636
01:28:55,226 --> 01:28:58,125
<i>With the help</i>
<i>of Varginha mayor, Verdi,</i>

637
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,611
<i>the team connects</i>
<i>with Mr. da Costa,</i>

638
01:29:00,645 --> 01:29:04,442
<i>a military police</i>
<i>corporal in 1996.</i>

639
01:29:04,477 --> 01:29:06,720
<i>His son, Romulo A Ribeiro,</i>

640
01:29:06,755 --> 01:29:10,517
<i>agrees to escort them</i>
<i>to the home of Eric Lopes.</i>

641
01:29:25,394 --> 01:29:27,327
Can you go up there?

642
01:29:29,018 --> 01:29:31,814
<i>Eric Lopes</i>
<i>is the military police officer</i>

643
01:29:31,849 --> 01:29:35,093
<i>from P2 who reportedly</i>
<i>drove the car</i>

644
01:29:35,128 --> 01:29:38,269
<i>during the second capture</i>
<i>with Marco Cherese.</i>

645
01:29:40,754 --> 01:29:43,550
<i>Not even the family</i>
<i>of the deceased officer</i>

646
01:29:43,585 --> 01:29:46,208
<i>has been able to get</i>
<i>a statement from Lopes.</i>

647
01:29:52,421 --> 01:29:54,527
<i>If the reports are true,</i>

648
01:29:54,561 --> 01:29:57,771
<i>he is the only living witness</i>
<i>of the second capture.</i>

649
01:29:59,359 --> 01:30:03,259
<i>Officer Lopes has been</i>
<i>unreachable for 26 years.</i>

650
01:30:07,298 --> 01:30:08,782
Oh, my God.

651
01:30:08,817 --> 01:30:10,405
I'll go with him.
I'm going with him.

652
01:30:21,485 --> 01:30:22,417
Hey!

653
01:30:41,159 --> 01:30:44,059
Tell him that the mayor
has blessed us.

654
01:30:44,093 --> 01:30:45,129
You tell him the mayor said...

655
01:30:52,516 --> 01:30:53,793
This is Eric Lopes?

656
01:30:54,932 --> 01:30:56,243
Let me just... Hold on, please.

657
01:30:56,278 --> 01:30:58,038
Let me ask you
a question. Please.

658
01:31:02,008 --> 01:31:04,459
- He is his friend not...
- Oh, okay.

659
01:31:08,773 --> 01:31:10,016
What?

660
01:31:11,466 --> 01:31:12,950
Hold up, hold up.

661
01:31:12,984 --> 01:31:15,021
Just ask him
one question for me.

662
01:31:19,957 --> 01:31:23,374
Will he ever come forward
to make a statement?

663
01:31:34,627 --> 01:31:35,593
What's happening?

664
01:31:37,181 --> 01:31:40,287
This is the house
of Eric Lopes.

665
01:31:40,322 --> 01:31:43,843
- Yeah.
- But he doesn't like to talk.

666
01:31:48,261 --> 01:31:50,263
And the threat
is that they might shoot us

667
01:31:50,297 --> 01:31:51,920
because we're on the property,
trespassing.

668
01:31:53,749 --> 01:31:54,992
They're
talking right now.

669
01:32:13,355 --> 01:32:15,530
- So, Eric won't talk?
- No.

670
01:32:15,564 --> 01:32:17,946
What just happened?
I'm trying... What happened?

671
01:32:17,980 --> 01:32:18,912
Is that Eric Lopes?

672
01:32:20,258 --> 01:32:21,708
- Who is that?
- Yeah, Eric Lopes.

673
01:32:21,743 --> 01:32:23,123
That's Eric Lopes.

674
01:32:24,228 --> 01:32:25,505
He doesn't want to talk at all.

675
01:32:28,025 --> 01:32:29,613
- Okay.
- Yeah, let's go.

676
01:32:29,647 --> 01:32:31,062
Oh, my God. That was Eric.

677
01:32:32,408 --> 01:32:33,513
Just saw him.

678
01:32:37,655 --> 01:32:40,900
Okay, okay. We'll go talk.

679
01:32:40,934 --> 01:32:42,764
Did you get him?
Dave, did you get him?

680
01:32:42,798 --> 01:32:46,077
Please tell me you got him.
That was Eric Lopes.

681
01:32:46,112 --> 01:32:48,493
Oh, my fucking God.
Did you get him in the window?

682
01:32:48,528 --> 01:32:49,943
- Yeah.
- Holy shit.

683
01:32:51,255 --> 01:32:52,428
He was
on the window the whole time.

684
01:32:52,463 --> 01:32:53,913
Oh, my God. You got him?

685
01:32:53,947 --> 01:32:57,606
This, here.
I'm ready to go at this.

686
01:32:57,641 --> 01:33:03,819
You'll be shot
if you don't live here.

687
01:33:03,854 --> 01:33:05,200
- He will shoot you?
- Yeah.

688
01:33:06,166 --> 01:33:08,410
Fuck!

689
01:33:08,444 --> 01:33:12,448
If that guy had nothing to hide,
he would have just said so.

690
01:33:14,589 --> 01:33:18,144
That guy was driving the car
that Marco... was in.

691
01:33:19,076 --> 01:33:20,180
Write what we just did.

692
01:33:21,630 --> 01:33:23,736
I got the interview
yesterday. It was pretty good.

693
01:33:23,770 --> 01:33:24,599
For what?

694
01:33:25,530 --> 01:33:27,567
No. Right now was pretty gnarly.

695
01:33:38,992 --> 01:33:41,339
Ask him if we can
talk about what we just did.

696
01:33:45,689 --> 01:33:46,621
Okay, okay.

697
01:33:49,624 --> 01:33:50,797
Which way did he go?

698
01:33:50,832 --> 01:33:51,764
To the left.

699
01:33:55,146 --> 01:33:56,078
We're stopping here?

700
01:33:57,528 --> 01:33:58,460
Okay.

701
01:33:59,979 --> 01:34:01,325
God, this is...

702
01:34:06,571 --> 01:34:08,608
What exactly did he say?

703
01:34:16,305 --> 01:34:18,825
And he believed that
Eric Lopes was serious?

704
01:34:20,413 --> 01:34:21,966
Yes, he was.

705
01:35:43,772 --> 01:35:46,948
<i>If his story is true,</i>

706
01:35:48,743 --> 01:35:53,506
he is walking around
with a level of confirmation

707
01:35:53,540 --> 01:35:56,267
that only a handful of people
on this planet have.

708
01:35:57,096 --> 01:35:59,650
What does that feel like?

709
01:37:25,701 --> 01:37:28,497
<i>May 8th, 1996,</i>

710
01:37:28,532 --> 01:37:31,880
<i>with mounting pressure</i>
<i>from media and witnesses,</i>

711
01:37:31,915 --> 01:37:35,953
<i>the military base, ESA,</i>
<i>holds a press conference.</i>

712
01:37:35,988 --> 01:37:38,335
<i>General Lima,</i>
<i>addresses the crowd.</i>

713
01:41:01,745 --> 01:41:04,161
The accumulation of aspects,

714
01:41:04,196 --> 01:41:05,542
the girls who saw something,

715
01:41:05,576 --> 01:41:08,062
the other people in the town
who saw something,

716
01:41:08,096 --> 01:41:10,892
this wasn't an isolated event
where you got one witness

717
01:41:10,926 --> 01:41:12,721
saying, "Oh, I saw
something extraordinary."

718
01:41:13,205 --> 01:41:14,447
Not at all.

719
01:41:14,482 --> 01:41:17,864
They seem to be
relatively naive young girls,

720
01:41:17,899 --> 01:41:20,419
and there were
fire department people involved,

721
01:41:21,868 --> 01:41:23,767
who saw the beings, too.

722
01:41:23,801 --> 01:41:25,665
And one nice thing
about it is that

723
01:41:25,700 --> 01:41:28,565
it takes the onus away
from saying things only

724
01:41:28,599 --> 01:41:30,084
happen in the United States.

725
01:41:30,118 --> 01:41:32,051
Well, there was
the United States involvement,

726
01:41:32,086 --> 01:41:33,190
and it wouldn't surprise me

727
01:41:33,225 --> 01:41:35,019
if they paid
to pick up the wreckage

728
01:41:35,054 --> 01:41:36,918
and you know
all the rest of the stuff.

729
01:41:37,298 --> 01:41:38,782
Why not?

730
01:41:38,816 --> 01:41:41,440
Makes sense.
Cheap way to get information.

731
01:41:41,474 --> 01:41:43,097
Let the other guy to the work.

732
01:43:41,284 --> 01:43:43,251
<i>I believe that</i>
<i>the Varginha case</i>

733
01:43:43,286 --> 01:43:46,703
<i>is much more important today</i>
<i>because it is more recent</i>

734
01:43:46,737 --> 01:43:49,395
<i>and some of the events</i>
<i>have not unfolded yet.</i>

735
01:44:01,614 --> 01:44:03,478
Did she have any
connection with eyes?

736
01:44:03,513 --> 01:44:06,930
Did she make any...
Like she saw eye to eye

737
01:44:06,964 --> 01:44:09,484
- with the being?
- Mmm-hmm.

738
01:44:37,961 --> 01:44:41,482
Were there live aliens seen
walking around this town?

739
01:44:46,590 --> 01:44:47,453
Mmm-hmm.

740
01:44:48,351 --> 01:44:52,976
I have deal with
this case in 1996

741
01:44:53,010 --> 01:44:56,048
because I have some
friends from there.

742
01:44:56,082 --> 01:45:01,674
He told that, "Oh, you
don't know what is true.
But I know what I saw."

743
01:45:40,817 --> 01:45:42,232
Oh, James.

744
01:45:44,476 --> 01:45:47,479
Oh, yeah. Really.

745
01:45:47,513 --> 01:45:48,687
Weight off the shoulders.

746
01:45:48,721 --> 01:45:50,136
- Mmm-hmm.
- Yeah.

747
01:45:50,171 --> 01:45:53,657
I just wonder like
what they said

748
01:45:53,692 --> 01:45:55,866
to these witnesses
that 25 years later,

749
01:45:55,901 --> 01:45:58,559
they still don't want to talk
about it on camera at all.

750
01:45:59,491 --> 01:46:01,769
It's, like, unbelievable.

751
01:46:01,803 --> 01:46:05,980
It's like you over them...
Even compensation that
they still won't do it.

752
01:46:06,014 --> 01:46:07,671
I know.
It's like money doesn't...

753
01:46:07,706 --> 01:46:10,225
Well, they won't do it.
That's weird.

754
01:46:16,370 --> 01:46:17,612
The reason
why they haven't made

755
01:46:17,647 --> 01:46:19,614
overt contacts is because
we're so aggressive.

756
01:46:25,827 --> 01:46:27,381
Come on.

757
01:46:41,325 --> 01:46:43,707
Would that smell
make a good perfume?



