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♪♪♪

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Blenheim Palace.

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It's so interesting
that apparently Her Majesty,

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whenever she goes
there, always says,

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"Why is your Palace
bigger than mine?'

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♪♪♪

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We're at a
quintessentially British event,

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Sir James, what brings you here?

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So this is an amazing place.

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I've never been here before.

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I've obviously been to Blenheim,

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but not to Salon Privé before.

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This is the Duke
of Marlborough Award.

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So Your Grace,
would you like to present Ben

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with his award, please?

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Andrew,
we're at the Salon Privé.

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What brings you here?

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We've been before,
we've enjoyed it, I like cars

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and it's a nice setting,
you know,

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it's just a nice thing to do.

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What's special
about British cars?

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When they work?

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They have a personality,
a character.

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What would you
say is the defining qualities

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of being
quintessentially British?

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Well, I think that
we're very friendly people.

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I think we're very relaxed
and creative and I suppose

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a little bit quirky.

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And you think
of all the incredible things

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that have come
out of this country,

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from the Rolling Stones and
the Beatles to Aston Martin.

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I mean, it's an absolutely
fantastic mélange

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of excitement
and creativity, I think.

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♪♪♪

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Our feature
documentary is called

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Quintessentially British.

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What does quintessentially
British mean to you?

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Unique, I think, probably is
the best way to describe it.

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It's very difficult to pin down

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what it means to be British.

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There is something
about self-deprecation,

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something about attachment
to history and tradition.

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Quiet pride.

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Being in a garden,
a green space.

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I think of our British
sense of humor is really

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what the British people turn to,

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in times of trouble,
and what helps us get out of it.

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I think the way we speak,

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because we're full of irony,

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so ironic and always saying

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things we don't quite mean.

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There's always "Well, what did
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There's always that element.
I love that.

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Politeness, kindness.

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Stuck-up-ness.

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When American friends
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they often say,
"Oh you know, the English

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are so friendly." And I think

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to myself and I sometimes say
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They're not really
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But you know, they're polite
in a way that you know,

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in America you go
into a shop or the supermarket

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and you know,
they're all over you

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with this kind of,
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which then is just switched off.

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You know,
we don't overstate things.

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Americans are all about these
big gestures, aren't they?

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You know,
when they meet each other

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and they're sort of "Oh,
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We're a little bit quieter,
you know, sort of assume

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that it's good to see you,

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but we'd really
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down to talking
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We do like to go our own way
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and listening to other people
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Yes.

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We kind of have a strict sense
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But in truth, anyone who's spent

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any time with normal
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that we're basically a lot
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So, we're a mass
of contradictions.

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I think if you ask my wife

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what the quintessential
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of an Englishmen are,
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respectful behaviour,
decent standards of dress.

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Perhaps she's a little old
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Just being very English.

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If the cliché of the Englishman
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his discretion,
his privacy, obeys the rules,

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is it any wonder
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love going to the theatre
where everything is different

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and the people let their hair
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We love the theatre,
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not theatrical in our lives.

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And the most famous Englishman
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but was an actor.

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Not a king.

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Not a politician.

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Not an athlete.

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Not a saint.

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Our national hero is an actor.

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Of course, other cultures
love their theater.

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And everyone loves storytelling
it's a very, very basic need.

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But the Brits have caught on
to it, perhaps more than most.

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We've been at it a long time.

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Just do a sound
check, Ian, just...

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Yes, yes, go ahead. Yup.

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Sir Ian McKellen.

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You... please, I'm not Sir.

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Okay, okay.

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That's a title.

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It's not a name.

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Unless you're calling
everybody else Mister.

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Sure.
Okay. Ian McKellen.

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Yep, yep, thank you.

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I began to like Shakespeare
by going to see his plays.

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Not by reading them.

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Or being taught them.

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He knew, it seems better

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than any other writer
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the variety of human needs
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and desires.

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That's the basis of it all

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is the jealousy, the love,
the hatred, the fear.

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Shakespeare,
in one speech tells you

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more about the life
of a man, from cradle to grave

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than a thousand pages
of someone else's writing

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could tell you.

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We love tales of horror
and violence and murder

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and people doing terrible
things to each other.

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And Shakespeare does
them so brilliantly.

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He only
invented one plot for himself

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in the whole of the 37 plays.

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That was the last play he wrote.

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All the others he pinched.

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What? From history books,

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from poetry books,
from other people's plays.

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There was a Hamlet play
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We filmed Hamlet before
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and when we were filming it,
the Duke of Edinburgh died.

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The Duke of Edinburgh dying
as we were filming a play

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about a royal family
who lived in a castle.

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And here we were in
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and we were filming the castle.

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You know, the queen losing
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Here we are doing a story
about a queen who

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loses a husband and marries
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It's hard not to see what
the connections are.

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Ian McKellen was wary
of playing Hamlet

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because he's 80 and Hamlet's 20.

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But I thought he can respect
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but still make it his own
and make it modern.

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Because whilst he's known
now as Gandalf, he's still

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sort of known
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great Shakespearean actor.

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Oh, we're living in an age
when an 82 year old man

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is pretending
to be a 22 year old boy

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and that specific man
doing it, MacKellen.

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Here we are, it's live.

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And never forget,
you can never forget

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when you're seeing
a Shakespeare play

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that that's exactly
what you're doing.

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You're seeing a play.

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Dame Judi.

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Dame Judi, to your left please.

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Over here please, Judi.

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We were filming
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with Hamlet and you of course,
played Ophelia in Hamlet

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- and Hamlet...
- And Gertrude.

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And Gertrude and Ophelia...

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Not in the same production.

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Not in the same production.

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What is it
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so quintessentially English

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and beloved around the world?

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I have two passions.

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One is Shakespeare.
The other is trees.

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And I was brought up
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and my family used to quote it.

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Reams of it, I could do
a whole play for you now.

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If you like the Dream or Twelfth
Night, I could do all that.

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I could do a lot
of Measure for Measure.

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I could do a bit
of The Merchant of Venice.

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It's a good note
to give to tired old actors

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of Shakespeare is, you know

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Shakespeare was an Italian?

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"To be or not to be,
that's the question," I mean...

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Italians, the cliche for us
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is that they never stop talking.

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You can say
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And talking very well.

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Good talk. Not idle chatter.

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But done with great flair
and imagination and metaphor

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and a variety of pace
in the speaking and the hands

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and the gestures
coming to it in a way

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that the British wouldn't
express themselves these days.

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I mean, we've had
the Victorian era to live

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through to change
our collective personality,

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our national personality.
But I think Shakespeare's

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characters are much more what
we think of as Italian or Irish.

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My world
at the moment, we talk so much

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about the provenance
of where your item is made.

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And I think what's
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but also
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is they've
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They've always supported
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the Henry Poole's,
Prince Charles gets

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his John Lobb shoes,
the Duke of Edinburgh,

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a Lock, Co. cap.

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And that's so important
to them to support these brands

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and to give them their Royal
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it's often underestimated
how important that is

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and how that keeps
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I have to confess that
I have never, ever been able

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to afford to go to Savile Row
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But I think there is something
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genuine craftsmanship
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bit of British making tradition.

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The sartorial
elegance, which is actually

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partly seen in Downton Abbey,
is very British,

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whether it's through James Bond

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or the Savile Row tailors.

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I think the British
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and it's trying
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And some ways, of course,
that's what His Royal Highness

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Prince Philip set out to do.

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He always encouraged people
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and that's
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Not half tying a tie,
but tying a tie really well.

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Learning how to do something
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looking at someone's shoes,
are they polished or not?

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And I still find I look
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just glancing down
just seeing whether

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they're polished or not.

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My husband gave our son
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of a suit from Savile Row.

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So it's that wonderful process
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of deciding, it's of getting
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That whole process and journey
is a delight to watch.

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There is no other
street like Savile Row.

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Through the generations it's
survived and it's survived

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because of obviously the great
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existed here on the Row.

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We don't claim to be
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because fashion comes and goes.

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Like the tide,
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Bespoke is a tailoring term
and the young will

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always have a need
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that are unique for them.

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Henry Poole
really is the founding fathers

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of Savile Row and also the great
inventors of the dinner suit,

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otherwise known as the Tuxedo.

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It's a great honour to be
at Henry Poole and being known

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for dressing some
of the great names of the past,

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such as Vanderbilts,
such as J.P. Morgan,

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such as Napoleon III,
such as the Tzars of Russia,

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even the Emperor of Japan.

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Still today, these names stand.

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Winston Churchill was probably
one of our great men

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that have walked in here.

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And of course, he came to us
as a young, slim gentleman

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and got to meet my great
grandfather and my grandfather.

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And my grandfather remembered
talking about his suits

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that came in for abundant
alteration cleaning

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due to the cigar smoke.

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And they would always find
little bits of ash

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and stubs inside pockets,

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which was very much
his character.

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But he was apparently
a wonderful man,

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even though he was quite moody

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at some points,
you know, and we did

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have a little
tit for tats over bills

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that were eventually sorted.

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This is what
we call measure books.

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So we would have
measured Winston's father,

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and this is 1886
by the looks of it.

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Later on in life, Winston came
to us in 1906, which is there,

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and that's some
of his clothes that was made.

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You'll always meet customers
and get to know them,

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which is the best part
of the business.

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How would you
like your pockets here?

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This is the big question here.

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Well, generally
I don't use them.

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You know, I won't be putting
any cigars in them.

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- Like Churchill.
- You should, you should.

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- I should.
- Four working buttons

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on the cuff? So there's
four working buttons here?

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Yes please, yes.

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Pleats or no pleats?

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That's a very good question.

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You're not strong on the thigh,

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so you don't
need to have pleats.

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- Right.
- Zip fly or button fly?

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- Zip fly.
- I have to ask.

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- Yeah.
- But for most people it's zip.

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So, single-breasted,
button two, notched lapel.

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So, that's your plain
weave with no colorway.

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That's your pinhead,
showing the actual distances

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between the two colorways.

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And I probably would
put it between those two.

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So, Simon, I think executive
decision, I think let's go...

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- Yes.
- Let's go for this.

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Yes, I think
that's a lovely one.

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It perfectly works well.

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It's smart casual
and dress it up, dress it down.

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And also it has
a bit more character,

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it has a little bit
more of the depth

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in the marbling effect
with the pinhead.

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So it's a good, good choice.

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So when you mention Savile Row,
I immediately think

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of The Beatles
and their last live performance

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on the roof at number 3,
Savile Row.

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Sadly a bit
before my time on the row.

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There's quite
often tours that come,

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they will always stop
outside the Apple building,

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before they come and stop here
at number 10, Savile Row.

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We're very fortunate,
we have quite an eclectic

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range of customers.

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Officers in the army,
to captains of industry.

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And we have been known
to make the odd outfit

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for heads of state.

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Thankfully,
I've still got my head.

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Prince William
and Prince Harry did their year

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at Sandhurst and whilst
they were training there,

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we were asked
to make their initial uniforms.

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We received a great
accolade and the fact

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that their first official
portrait was of them

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wearing their uniforms
made by Dege, Skinner.

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When Prince Harry married,
we were approached

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and asked if we would
make the frock-coat

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uniform for the Blues
and Royals,

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which was his mother regiment.

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Other than the people
that were measuring

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and doing the fitting,
no one actually knew

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who we were making it for.

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We're going to be making you
a sports coat,

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but a sports coat
with a difference.

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This jacket here is what
we call the Bentley coat.

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We've utilised the Bentley
stitching that is seen

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on every car steering wheel.

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And I understand that it
takes 50 man hours to make

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a Bentley steering wheel.

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Which is, funnily enough,
the same period

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of time it takes us
to make a two piece suit,

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50 to 60 man hours.

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The buttons are an engraved
Bentley wheel nut that would

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have been on all
the original Bentley's.

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Get the rubber hammer out,

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bang it, untwist it,
wheel comes off.

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Bit like Formula One,

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but not as quick
as Formula One these days.

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♪♪♪

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My full name is
Adrian Bailie Nottage Palmer

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00:17:31,318 --> 00:17:33,986
and I am the 4th Baron
of Reading.

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And I'm terribly fortunate

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that I am able to wear quite
a lot of my father's clothes

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and indeed
my grandfather's clothes.

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When I got married,
I actually wore

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my grandfather's tailcoat,
which was made

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in Savile Row in 1921.

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00:17:49,969 --> 00:17:53,240
Huntley, Palmers
was founded by Thomas Huntley.

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00:17:53,306 --> 00:17:56,943
The Palmers and the Huntleys
were in fact related

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00:17:57,610 --> 00:18:00,947
and as things took off,
he wrote to his cousin

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and said,
"Will you come and join me?"

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00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,818
Huntley, Palmers
had a Royal Warrant

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from every royal family
in the world.

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Beat that.

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I was the last member
of the family to do

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what they called
a really old fashioned

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apprenticeship and I always
remember when I went

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to the Huntley, Palmer
factory in Huyton,

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00:18:21,868 --> 00:18:25,004
they didn't like the idea of the
boss's son coming up here.

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And my first job was to get
all the chewing gum off

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the floor of the lady's loo.

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00:18:30,443 --> 00:18:32,912
I swear to this day
that that lavatory

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had never been so clean.

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They thought I would
last about 5 minutes,

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whereas in fact it took
me about 5 hours to do.

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I think I'm very fortunate
because I've had my biscuit

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life and then
I've had my farming life.

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00:18:46,926 --> 00:18:50,630
I was 39 when I inherited
the title from my uncle.

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I always slightly assumed
that I would have inherited

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the title from my father, but
sadly he died before he was 71.

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00:19:01,441 --> 00:19:04,544
I nearly always actually have
a bite to eat at lunch time

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in the staff restaurant where
the food is frightfully good

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00:19:07,714 --> 00:19:09,982
and quite a bit cheaper
than upstairs.

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Do you think the House of Lords

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00:19:21,394 --> 00:19:22,794
- should be abolished?
- Definitely.

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00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:25,765
The House of Commons, I think,
is the most incredible

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00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:27,434
institution on the planet.

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00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,068
The Lords...

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00:19:29,536 --> 00:19:33,139
Anything hereditary without
actually doing it yourself

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00:19:33,206 --> 00:19:35,608
and achieving it yourself
shouldn't be around.

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00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,678
I don't see why, you know, you
should get there through birth.

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00:19:38,745 --> 00:19:40,112
I think that's just ridiculous.

398
00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:42,081
It's a bit outdated,
if you will.

399
00:19:42,148 --> 00:19:44,584
So I've heard the House
of Lords be called

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00:19:44,651 --> 00:19:47,086
the most expensive
daycare facility

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00:19:47,153 --> 00:19:49,622
for the elderly,
with their subsidised meals

402
00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:50,990
paid by the taxpayer.

403
00:19:51,057 --> 00:19:52,625
But that's all okay, I mean,

404
00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:54,227
we have
the House of Commons, right?

405
00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,341
I thought we were just going
to talk about some gardens here.

406
00:19:58,365 --> 00:19:59,866
I haven't studied it
in great depth,

407
00:19:59,932 --> 00:20:01,634
to be honest,
but it probably could

408
00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:03,236
do with a bit of modernisation.

409
00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:06,706
But I quite like the décor,
so don't modernize that.

410
00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:10,710
I'm quite keen
on the House of Lords.

411
00:20:10,777 --> 00:20:13,746
People want to abolish it, but
basically it could be renamed

412
00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:15,448
a House of Experts.

413
00:20:15,515 --> 00:20:18,117
Somebody once said
to my children's mother

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00:20:18,184 --> 00:20:21,954
that I speak on every subject.
That is not true.

415
00:20:22,021 --> 00:20:26,793
If, for example, there was a
big division on a health bill

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00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:31,063
amendment, I probably
wouldn't vote unless I'd spoken

417
00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:34,867
to somebody
who had health knowledge.

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00:20:35,935 --> 00:20:37,804
In the 30 years
that you've been here,

419
00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:39,806
what are you most proud of?

420
00:20:39,872 --> 00:20:43,109
Being able to participate,
particularly on amendments

421
00:20:43,175 --> 00:20:47,046
to various bills, being able
to change the course of history.

422
00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:52,051
I think you famously described
Manderston, your home,

423
00:20:52,118 --> 00:20:55,187
as it has 109 rooms,
but how many rooms too many?

424
00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:56,489
A hundred.

425
00:20:56,556 --> 00:20:58,558
Yes, so funny.

426
00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:03,162
First thing you get given when
you come here is a clothes peg

427
00:21:03,229 --> 00:21:06,966
and then, if we're lucky,
a locker and then even luckier

428
00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:08,868
still, a desk
and I've actually kept

429
00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:13,105
my great-grandfather's
nameplate,

430
00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:14,707
which I'm very proud of.

431
00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:19,679
This is a World Heritage site,

432
00:21:19,746 --> 00:21:23,483
this is an important building,
this is a working museum.

433
00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:25,785
It is the people's parliament.

434
00:21:25,852 --> 00:21:28,555
It is for the future
of this country.

435
00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,523
And I believe in this building.

436
00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:33,726
I believe in the fabric
of this building and I believe

437
00:21:33,793 --> 00:21:36,929
in democracy and this is
the home of democracy.

438
00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:39,932
Which is the Commons,
which is the Lords?

439
00:21:39,999 --> 00:21:42,034
Well, the good thing
is we always know,

440
00:21:42,101 --> 00:21:44,537
if you're at this end of the
building, everything's green.

441
00:21:44,604 --> 00:21:46,506
If you go
to the other end, it's red.

442
00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:49,275
So we have that bit
in the middle of no man's land.

443
00:21:50,343 --> 00:21:52,545
Do I look in envy to the Lords?

444
00:21:52,612 --> 00:21:54,581
I've got to say, it
might be a little bit grander.

445
00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,650
It might have a little bit
more gold gilding than we have.

446
00:21:57,717 --> 00:22:00,487
But the reality is,
we are the elected House,

447
00:22:00,553 --> 00:22:02,889
we are the democratic House.

448
00:22:02,955 --> 00:22:06,693
This is supremacy when it
comes between the two Houses.

449
00:22:07,694 --> 00:22:10,296
Democracy's never perfect,
we will all find fault,

450
00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:12,999
but if you're going to find one
democracy that people want

451
00:22:13,065 --> 00:22:17,504
to copy, it's this one and can I
stand by what I represent here?

452
00:22:17,570 --> 00:22:19,205
Absolutely.

453
00:22:19,271 --> 00:22:22,041
Am I proud
of the Westminster democracy?

454
00:22:22,108 --> 00:22:25,945
Yes, of course
and I'm so pleased there are

455
00:22:26,012 --> 00:22:28,214
so many parliaments
around the world

456
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,350
that's based on this democracy.

457
00:22:31,418 --> 00:22:34,621
And that matters to me
and it matters the role

458
00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:36,288
that we played around the world

459
00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:38,658
in ensuring democracy
comes first.

460
00:22:38,891 --> 00:22:42,495
The Westminster model,
I think by far, yes,

461
00:22:42,562 --> 00:22:45,297
I'm going to say, it's
the best model that we've got.

462
00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:50,302
Part of my family,
is not only my wife, daughter

463
00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:53,473
and the grandchildren, but
it's also the pets, isn't it?

464
00:22:53,540 --> 00:22:56,443
You know, Boris the parrot
thinks he's a politician.

465
00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:58,110
He loves coming to Parliament.

466
00:22:58,177 --> 00:23:00,279
He shouts, "Order,
order, lock the doors."

467
00:23:00,346 --> 00:23:02,381
Betty, a Patterdale Terrier,

468
00:23:02,449 --> 00:23:05,284
who wants to keep charge
of everything and of course,

469
00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:07,591
I've got Maggie the tortoise
and why's she called Maggie?

470
00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:10,523
She's not for turning
and she's got a hard shell.

471
00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:11,958
So of course as you realize,

472
00:23:12,024 --> 00:23:14,427
all the pets are
named after politicians.

473
00:23:14,494 --> 00:23:16,463
They all are part of the family,

474
00:23:16,529 --> 00:23:19,398
they play the role
and quite rightly,

475
00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:21,434
they don't miss out either.

476
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:29,676
I've always
thought that I had the great

477
00:23:29,742 --> 00:23:34,681
advantage of growing up
as a teenager in the 1960s.

478
00:23:34,747 --> 00:23:38,918
I came out of that period
wanting to change the world.

479
00:23:39,852 --> 00:23:45,625
And I decided that democracy
was the way to achieve change.

480
00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:50,362
I wanted to come to Cambridge,
so I applied.

481
00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:55,535
I was absolutely terrified.
I did a terrible interview,

482
00:23:55,602 --> 00:23:59,405
but remarkably, Pembroke
College gave me a place.

483
00:24:01,674 --> 00:24:06,846
Spending a really wonderful
period of time here,

484
00:24:06,913 --> 00:24:09,916
burying myself
in English literature

485
00:24:09,982 --> 00:24:14,386
was not just a treat,
but it was a rather

486
00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:16,188
wonderful preparation for life.

487
00:24:19,025 --> 00:24:21,694
One of the things
that inspired me

488
00:24:21,761 --> 00:24:26,265
in Cambridge was a supervision
with one of the Fellows.

489
00:24:26,332 --> 00:24:29,235
We had written essays, they
weren't terribly good essays.

490
00:24:29,301 --> 00:24:33,405
He said, "Let me tell you
what Wordsworth and Coleridge

491
00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:35,107
were really all about."

492
00:24:35,441 --> 00:24:39,679
And for the next 2 hours,
he paced up and down,

493
00:24:39,746 --> 00:24:41,213
pulled books out of the bookcase

494
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,782
and read quotations at us.

495
00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:47,353
He conjured up
a whole world for us.

496
00:24:47,419 --> 00:24:51,524
And that is the power
of a good supervision.

497
00:24:51,591 --> 00:24:55,595
It can inspire,
it can fire your imagination,

498
00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:59,699
it can fire your passion.
That transference

499
00:24:59,766 --> 00:25:05,504
of enthusiasm and inspiration
is what Cambridge teaching,

500
00:25:05,572 --> 00:25:08,775
at its very best, is all about.

501
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:12,879
It's no accident
that Cambridge has produced

502
00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:17,283
over 100 Nobel Prize winners
because of the quality

503
00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:18,985
of intellectual attainment,

504
00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:22,388
the depth of research,
the quality of teaching.

505
00:25:22,454 --> 00:25:26,693
If we lost that,
we would be diminished terribly.

506
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:31,564
The ability to offer
to the very best and brightest

507
00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:35,134
of our students,
here in Britain,

508
00:25:35,201 --> 00:25:37,837
an opportunity
to flourish and to shine.

509
00:25:40,807 --> 00:25:43,275
I was
at Cambridge on a scholarship,

510
00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,244
so I didn't get
there through privilege.

511
00:25:45,311 --> 00:25:47,246
But once you're there,
you realise that you're

512
00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:50,449
part of a great deal
of historical privilege.

513
00:25:50,516 --> 00:25:53,252
If I hadn't been to Cambridge,
perhaps I wouldn't have been

514
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,755
invited to go to the Royal
Shakespeare Company

515
00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:58,190
by these Cambridge people
who were running it.

516
00:25:58,758 --> 00:26:00,727
I went for the interview
and I didn't get in.

517
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:03,029
And I think they saw
that I wasn't properly posh.

518
00:26:03,095 --> 00:26:05,364
That's why.
And I was just talking a lot.

519
00:26:05,431 --> 00:26:07,566
And I think they were like,
"Oh, please."

520
00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,144
I'm not bitter, though.
I'm definitely not bitter

521
00:26:09,168 --> 00:26:10,448
about it,
I never think about it,

522
00:26:10,502 --> 00:26:11,704
even though it's 20 years ago.

523
00:26:12,538 --> 00:26:16,008
My experience of Cambridge
was that I flourished

524
00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:17,476
because I went there to work.

525
00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:19,646
I loved it.

526
00:26:19,712 --> 00:26:21,447
It was very high pressure.

527
00:26:21,513 --> 00:26:24,917
Now, a lot of students
couldn't take the pressure,

528
00:26:24,984 --> 00:26:26,352
wouldn't enjoy the pressure,

529
00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:27,720
would hate the pressure.

530
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,157
I'm Callum Sullivan
and I recently graduated

531
00:26:31,223 --> 00:26:33,059
with a degree in music.

532
00:26:33,125 --> 00:26:35,361
I captained my Cambridge crew
in the Boat Race

533
00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:37,063
against Oxford to victory.

534
00:26:37,496 --> 00:26:40,099
When I really decided
I wanted to apply to Cambridge

535
00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:42,034
and put in the work
that meant I could

536
00:26:42,101 --> 00:26:44,570
get there was actually
probably watching a Boat Race.

537
00:26:45,071 --> 00:26:47,239
I realised at that point
that this was an event

538
00:26:47,306 --> 00:26:48,708
that was really special

539
00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:50,677
and that I actually
had the capacity

540
00:26:50,743 --> 00:26:53,179
to possibly
be in this environment.

541
00:26:53,245 --> 00:26:54,546
Best decision I ever made.

542
00:26:55,748 --> 00:26:57,784
Once you're part of
this Boat Club, you have to be,

543
00:26:57,850 --> 00:27:00,319
particularly for the six seven
months leading up to the race,

544
00:27:00,386 --> 00:27:02,397
totally locked in and making
sure that you're getting

545
00:27:02,421 --> 00:27:04,223
as much out
of yourself as you can.

546
00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:06,268
And we're all expected to do
really well in our studies

547
00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:08,160
as well, so it
is a bit of a challenge

548
00:27:08,227 --> 00:27:09,987
and one that's really,
really great learning.

549
00:27:10,596 --> 00:27:12,965
We usually end the week
on a pretty tough session

550
00:27:13,032 --> 00:27:15,401
on Sundays, earn the day
off we tend to say.

551
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,704
Get up a little bit later
than usual on Monday mornings,

552
00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:21,107
head to Nanna Mex for a Monday
burrito on the student deal.

553
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:25,077
You know, when you're sitting
on the start line on race day

554
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:27,646
and you know that there's
something like 6 million

555
00:27:27,714 --> 00:27:29,381
people watching on BBC One

556
00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:31,217
and you know
that there's 200,000 people

557
00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:33,119
on the banks of the Thames.

558
00:27:33,185 --> 00:27:34,963
And you're sitting there
and you're absolutely trying

559
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:38,124
to do anything but make
a mess of the first stroke

560
00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:40,159
and end up losing
your crew the race.

561
00:27:40,226 --> 00:27:41,870
And that's basically all you
can think about, otherwise,

562
00:27:41,894 --> 00:27:43,763
you do exactly that.

563
00:27:44,731 --> 00:27:46,866
To hear the roars
of the crowds coming through

564
00:27:46,933 --> 00:27:48,534
Hammersmith Bridge,
it's a really special

565
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,668
thing to be a part of.

566
00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:52,905
So my first plaque
is yet to go up,

567
00:27:52,972 --> 00:27:54,974
it's somewhere in one
of the corners of the room.

568
00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:56,375
Oh, there it is.

569
00:27:56,442 --> 00:27:58,044
Yes, that's my plaque there

570
00:27:58,110 --> 00:28:00,112
and I'm right in the middle
of the 5-seater.

571
00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,514
And I think it's destined
for one of these spaces

572
00:28:02,581 --> 00:28:03,916
on the walls up here.

573
00:28:05,985 --> 00:28:08,721
This race has been part
of national culture

574
00:28:08,788 --> 00:28:10,489
a little bit for so long.

575
00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:15,061
I thoroughly
enjoy the Oxbridge Boat Race.

576
00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:18,030
My number two sister went
to Cambridge and Geordie went

577
00:28:18,097 --> 00:28:21,167
to Oxford and my number five
sister went to Oxford as well.

578
00:28:21,233 --> 00:28:24,003
So there is
this extraordinary rivalry,

579
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:26,172
light blue and dark blue
and obviously as children

580
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,307
we were always
very excited if somebody sank,

581
00:28:28,374 --> 00:28:31,210
we were usually
waiting for that.

582
00:28:31,811 --> 00:28:34,313
It was the first
thing I ever saw on television.

583
00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:37,750
I was walking past a shop front
and there was a crowd

584
00:28:37,817 --> 00:28:40,452
looking into the window
and I went to join them

585
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,990
and on a little screen
about that size,

586
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,826
there was some brown,
shady image.

587
00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:51,697
And I realised it was moving
image, which was happening

588
00:28:51,764 --> 00:28:55,968
at that moment and so that was
the first time I saw television.

589
00:28:57,236 --> 00:28:59,806
Oh, well,
I've always wanted Cambridge

590
00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:01,352
to win the Boat Race,
because my uncle

591
00:29:01,407 --> 00:29:02,674
went to Cambridge.

592
00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:06,112
It's not really a race, is it?

593
00:29:06,178 --> 00:29:09,015
Because it's the same two
competing for something

594
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:11,784
that's largely
irrelevant to everybody else.

595
00:29:25,464 --> 00:29:27,333
Cricket originated in England,

596
00:29:27,399 --> 00:29:30,269
originated in the countryside.
I can't possibly imagine

597
00:29:30,336 --> 00:29:32,204
what it was like back then,
but look at where

598
00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:33,940
we've come to now, so.

599
00:29:35,674 --> 00:29:38,177
Cricket I think is part
of tradition and of course

600
00:29:38,244 --> 00:29:40,980
Lord's Cricket Ground
is as much about the ceremony

601
00:29:41,047 --> 00:29:42,815
as I guess the game itself.

602
00:29:42,882 --> 00:29:46,052
You've got Lord's Cricket
Ground, regarded as the home

603
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:48,654
of cricket and it's still
only colonial countries

604
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,522
who predominantly play cricket,

605
00:29:50,589 --> 00:29:52,424
which says
everything about the game.

606
00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:54,193
Cricket is essentially,

607
00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:56,595
a quintessentially
English pastime.

608
00:29:56,662 --> 00:30:00,066
There are very few games where
you can play for five days,

609
00:30:00,132 --> 00:30:02,869
go home, do anything
you like in between,

610
00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:04,971
and at the end of five days,
have a draw

611
00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:07,673
and everyone be relatively
happy with that result.

612
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,877
I was brought up
on cricket because at the end

613
00:30:10,943 --> 00:30:13,279
of our garden
in Wigan was the local

614
00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:15,214
cricket club and I watched

615
00:30:15,281 --> 00:30:17,249
their ground
through the seasons.

616
00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:20,652
In the winter when
it was fallow and snowing,

617
00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:22,721
and then in the spring
when the grass

618
00:30:22,788 --> 00:30:25,892
could be cut and the players
arrived to practice.

619
00:30:25,958 --> 00:30:28,136
And then at the weekends
when they actually played games,

620
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,461
I could watch them.

621
00:30:30,029 --> 00:30:32,598
And I became
not a player of cricket,

622
00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:34,500
but I was
in the score box marking

623
00:30:34,566 --> 00:30:37,536
the rather
complicated way in which

624
00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:39,138
points are scored in cricket.

625
00:30:39,371 --> 00:30:41,307
You go to a cricket match
and you don't have

626
00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,209
to watch it all the time.

627
00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,444
There's plenty of time
to have a chat with the person

628
00:30:45,511 --> 00:30:48,247
next door to you,
often about cricket.

629
00:30:49,015 --> 00:30:50,616
"Oh, they're starting again."

630
00:30:52,818 --> 00:30:55,487
To think of it as a game
in which people win or lose,

631
00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:57,623
no, it's a different
sort of game altogether,

632
00:30:57,689 --> 00:30:58,925
it's the game of life.

633
00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:05,231
Okay, in my house,
there was no cricket,

634
00:31:05,297 --> 00:31:08,600
there was no rugby,
there was no Aussie Rules,

635
00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:10,236
none of that stuff.
We all sailed.

636
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:13,139
I don't know anything
about team sports.

637
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,607
Nothing. You're truly
asking the wrong Australian.

638
00:31:15,674 --> 00:31:17,634
I can't believe they didn't
take away my passport.

639
00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:19,436
But yes, I don't know
anything about cricket.

640
00:31:19,678 --> 00:31:20,746
Sorry.

641
00:31:21,447 --> 00:31:23,287
Her Majesty the Queen
and the Duke of Edinburgh

642
00:31:23,315 --> 00:31:25,317
many times
attended test matches,

643
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,519
often meeting the players
on the field of play

644
00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:29,321
during the tea interval.

645
00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:31,490
Only on one occasion
has the Queen actually stayed

646
00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:33,459
for lunch, however.
That was during a test

647
00:31:33,525 --> 00:31:36,162
match against Australia.
Her favourite tipple,

648
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,130
Dubonnet, was not present.

649
00:31:38,197 --> 00:31:41,100
So a member of the kitchen
staff had to be dispatched

650
00:31:41,167 --> 00:31:42,969
to find an off licence somewhere

651
00:31:43,035 --> 00:31:44,836
in St John's Wood or Maida Vale,

652
00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:46,605
which had a bottle
of Dubonnet in stock.

653
00:31:46,672 --> 00:31:48,941
And then had to dash back
to the ground in time

654
00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:51,944
to serve the Queen her favourite
aperitif before lunch.

655
00:31:52,011 --> 00:31:54,413
Just one of the little,
extra measures that we take

656
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,948
to ensure our special guests

657
00:31:56,015 --> 00:31:57,549
are well looked after
at this ground.

658
00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:07,826
I lived
in Bloomsbury for several years

659
00:32:07,893 --> 00:32:11,130
in London and it's an area
that's very special to me.

660
00:32:11,197 --> 00:32:12,631
And I think what
I love about it,

661
00:32:12,698 --> 00:32:14,200
other than
the Dickensian heritage,

662
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:17,136
is all
the little twists and turns

663
00:32:17,203 --> 00:32:19,171
and you stumble
upon these small museums

664
00:32:19,238 --> 00:32:21,040
that you may
not have known existed.

665
00:32:21,107 --> 00:32:24,043
I particularly love
the Sir John Soane's Museum.

666
00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:26,445
And is quite famously
said that the British

667
00:32:26,512 --> 00:32:28,247
are such avid collectors.

668
00:32:28,314 --> 00:32:32,318
And there's no better example
of a random, delightful,

669
00:32:32,384 --> 00:32:36,955
at times horrifying, collection
of antiquities hidden away

670
00:32:37,023 --> 00:32:39,125
on a quiet street in Bloomsbury.

671
00:32:40,026 --> 00:32:41,560
People look at these buildings,

672
00:32:41,627 --> 00:32:44,363
they look at a place
like this and they see

673
00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:47,466
something that's
really like a fly in amber.

674
00:32:48,434 --> 00:32:50,669
We're in the library dining room

675
00:32:50,736 --> 00:32:52,971
of Sir John Soane's townhouse.

676
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,774
Which became,
after his death, his museum.

677
00:32:56,108 --> 00:32:59,578
He was appointed
to be the architect of the Bank

678
00:32:59,645 --> 00:33:01,926
of England and that was probably
his greatest achievement,

679
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:07,153
and he was awarded a knighthood.
He was also fortunate

680
00:33:07,219 --> 00:33:10,322
in marrying an heiress,
Eliza Smith.

681
00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:14,360
One of the great tragedies
was that only two years

682
00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:17,729
after they moved into the house,
Eliza Soane died.

683
00:33:18,530 --> 00:33:24,203
Soane was disconsolate.
The tomb he designed

684
00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:25,771
a few months after her death

685
00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:28,840
and it was
a remarkable departure

686
00:33:28,907 --> 00:33:30,209
from contemporary tombs.

687
00:33:31,177 --> 00:33:33,312
Giles Gilbert Scott
must have looked at it

688
00:33:33,379 --> 00:33:35,047
and being intimate
with the house

689
00:33:35,114 --> 00:33:36,782
and the collections,
it would have

690
00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:39,885
come to him as an Edicule,
which offers shelter

691
00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:41,520
for communication.

692
00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:44,690
Gilbert Scott,
who designed the phone box,

693
00:33:44,756 --> 00:33:47,159
he saw this
and thought that shape,

694
00:33:47,226 --> 00:33:49,595
and I hope he thought
and that love story,

695
00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:51,930
will be just perfect
for this new invention

696
00:33:51,997 --> 00:33:53,499
called the phone.

697
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:56,768
His inspiration
was a brilliant bit

698
00:33:56,835 --> 00:33:58,737
of lateral thinking,
if you like.

699
00:33:58,804 --> 00:34:01,107
Gilbert Scott
wanted it to be silver,

700
00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:05,177
but the Post Office said,
"Oh no, budget, budget"

701
00:34:05,244 --> 00:34:07,513
and they said it's going
to have to be red.

702
00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:11,817
And now that's an iconic sense
of Englishness in this country

703
00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:13,819
and right around the world.

704
00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:23,362
So we're here today
at Henry Poole.

705
00:34:23,429 --> 00:34:25,631
At this stage,
we've done now the pattern.

706
00:34:25,697 --> 00:34:27,799
We've gone through
the detailing with yourself.

707
00:34:27,866 --> 00:34:30,202
Back width is good,
shoulder width is good.

708
00:34:30,269 --> 00:34:33,172
At this point, I'd be asking
you if there's anything you

709
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,673
don't like, anything you want

710
00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:36,408
to change,
you know, button heights.

711
00:34:37,843 --> 00:34:40,646
Sleeve length,
they're just a little bit short.

712
00:34:40,712 --> 00:34:42,914
So I'm just going to put
in a quarter of an inch

713
00:34:42,981 --> 00:34:45,016
on those and
then you should show about

714
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:47,519
a centimetre 3/8 of shirt cuff.

715
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:48,654
Sure.

716
00:34:49,288 --> 00:34:52,491
I mean, I really
like how comfortable it feels

717
00:34:52,558 --> 00:34:54,893
and how light
and also I like the color.

718
00:34:55,127 --> 00:34:57,829
Obviously, it's a little bit
livelier than a plain navy,

719
00:34:57,896 --> 00:34:59,965
but without
being overly flashy, you know,

720
00:35:00,031 --> 00:35:01,633
if you had a real
electric blue suit,

721
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:03,535
then, you know,
how many times are

722
00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:05,537
you going to wear it
before you get bored

723
00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:08,084
or people say, "Here he comes in
his electric blue suit again?"

724
00:35:13,011 --> 00:35:15,647
We have to admire
the entrepreneurial spirit

725
00:35:15,714 --> 00:35:19,518
of the original John Lobb,
who in 1863 saw the Prince

726
00:35:19,585 --> 00:35:23,422
of Wales in the park and saw
that he left a muddy footprint

727
00:35:23,489 --> 00:35:26,024
and then he used that
as an imprint to make his first

728
00:35:26,091 --> 00:35:28,527
riding boots, which he'd
gifted to the Prince of Wales

729
00:35:28,594 --> 00:35:30,396
before he was King.

730
00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:32,864
That's how the long
standing relationship

731
00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:34,566
with this heritage brand,

732
00:35:34,633 --> 00:35:36,868
the Royal Family and of course,
the Royal Warrant

733
00:35:36,935 --> 00:35:40,239
that John Lobb has carried
for so long, came about.

734
00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:45,844
My great-great-grandfather

735
00:35:45,911 --> 00:35:47,112
founded the firm.

736
00:35:47,579 --> 00:35:49,381
The fact that
it's a family run business.

737
00:35:49,448 --> 00:35:51,717
Behind that family run
element of it

738
00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:53,952
is the fact that
it's an independent business

739
00:35:54,019 --> 00:35:56,922
and I think it is
that element of independence,

740
00:35:56,988 --> 00:36:00,058
which is maybe a
quintessentially English trait.

741
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:04,563
In World War II,
when my great-uncle had started

742
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:07,165
running the firm, there
was a moment when the bombs

743
00:36:07,233 --> 00:36:09,034
were falling on London.

744
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,770
One evening he decided
that it would be best to have

745
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:14,540
the lasts move out into
the country to keep them safe.

746
00:36:14,906 --> 00:36:16,775
Early the next day,
the building was bombed

747
00:36:16,842 --> 00:36:18,109
and it was condemned.

748
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:21,513
The lasts are very much
the lifeblood of the firm.

749
00:36:21,580 --> 00:36:24,383
Keeping those from
being burned was a good move.

750
00:36:27,118 --> 00:36:29,388
So those are all old names.

751
00:36:29,455 --> 00:36:31,366
Thing is, we've actually
got to the point where lots

752
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:33,167
of people don't know
who these people are anymore.

753
00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:36,061
- Yes.
- David Niven, Lord Olivier.

754
00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:39,231
This is Peter O'Toole,
Aristotle Onassis.

755
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:41,667
Sinatra.

756
00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:44,636
- Wow.
- Small feet.

757
00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:46,638
Those are well used.
We had a lot of work

758
00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:47,806
for him over the years.

759
00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:52,544
Jackie Onassis,
she had large feet,

760
00:36:52,611 --> 00:36:54,580
I have to say.

761
00:36:55,013 --> 00:36:57,283
Yes, she was quite tall
I think, she was a tall lady.

762
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:58,550
Yes.

763
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,021
Some people,
I have heard, will be asked

764
00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:04,990
to be buried in their shoes.

765
00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:06,868
Obviously, their favourite
items that they may have had

766
00:37:06,892 --> 00:37:08,460
during their lives.

767
00:37:08,527 --> 00:37:10,729
Well, they do say
you should judge a man by shoes.

768
00:37:12,398 --> 00:37:14,199
Regardless of what
he might be wearing.

769
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:16,602
This is what we're faced with,

770
00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:20,306
which is this blue suit
which you're having made.

771
00:37:20,372 --> 00:37:22,073
- Yes.
- By Simon.

772
00:37:22,841 --> 00:37:24,976
You might prefer something
which is a little bit more,

773
00:37:25,043 --> 00:37:26,778
sort of
in keeping with the suit.

774
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,349
The one I think that really
sort of complemented

775
00:37:30,416 --> 00:37:32,951
what you were wearing
was the double-monk shoe,

776
00:37:33,018 --> 00:37:35,387
it's designed as quite a sort
of comfortable shoe as well.

777
00:37:36,121 --> 00:37:37,489
Which is good for everyday wear.

778
00:37:46,164 --> 00:37:48,867
British
weather is, for me, perfect.

779
00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:51,770
It changes every day.

780
00:37:52,604 --> 00:37:53,805
You never get bored.

781
00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:58,143
It's reliable
in its unreliability.

782
00:38:00,979 --> 00:38:03,081
The best cab
service in the world

783
00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:05,183
is the London taxi driver,
right or wrong?

784
00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:07,218
Definitely, Fred.

785
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,263
Just our origin, it's being
going so long, it's an icon.

786
00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:12,223
It's like a red bus
or a telephone box.

787
00:38:12,624 --> 00:38:15,327
Come to London,
you ride in a black cab.

788
00:38:15,594 --> 00:38:17,863
If I got into
the back of your cab and said,

789
00:38:17,929 --> 00:38:19,731
"Take me to the umbrella shop."

790
00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:21,867
We'd take you
to James Smith, Sons,

791
00:38:21,933 --> 00:38:24,470
New Oxford St, Bloomsbury.
Of course we know it.

792
00:38:24,536 --> 00:38:26,304
Yes.

793
00:38:26,372 --> 00:38:28,374
I suppose rain
is quintessentially English,

794
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,343
hence the umbrella has to also
be quintessentially English

795
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:33,011
to protect you
from this ghastly weather.

796
00:38:33,078 --> 00:38:34,580
Having said that,
today we are blessed

797
00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:36,448
with some beautiful blue skies.

798
00:38:37,416 --> 00:38:39,685
I love it
when I see those sort of shops

799
00:38:39,751 --> 00:38:42,421
which do something
very particular.

800
00:38:42,488 --> 00:38:46,157
Which are charming,
which say something about us

801
00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:48,727
and which I would
hate to die out.

802
00:38:48,794 --> 00:38:52,431
That emporium of umbrellas.

803
00:38:52,498 --> 00:38:56,735
It's a mad idea
and I'm absolutely delighted

804
00:38:56,802 --> 00:38:58,003
it's still there.

805
00:38:58,704 --> 00:39:00,906
James Smith
and Sons have been in business

806
00:39:00,972 --> 00:39:04,576
since 1830 and we're
on to the sixth generation.

807
00:39:04,643 --> 00:39:06,612
It's quintessential English,

808
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,680
but it's actually
a little bit more than that.

809
00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:12,818
The umbrella was said
to have started either in Egypt

810
00:39:12,884 --> 00:39:15,854
or China, and the real
pick up with it came

811
00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:17,923
with the invention
of steel as part

812
00:39:17,989 --> 00:39:19,791
of the Industrial Revolution.

813
00:39:19,858 --> 00:39:22,561
People had more money,
more time to spend on things.

814
00:39:22,628 --> 00:39:26,031
Slowly then, umbrellas
became popular in London

815
00:39:26,097 --> 00:39:27,733
as a fashion accessory.

816
00:39:28,133 --> 00:39:30,335
A good umbrella
becomes part of you.

817
00:39:30,402 --> 00:39:32,170
It can make you stand up tall,

818
00:39:32,237 --> 00:39:34,840
but it can also make
you feel good inside as well.

819
00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:39,144
We've always been
taught you must never open

820
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:40,912
your umbrella indoors,
you always have

821
00:39:40,979 --> 00:39:42,247
to store it wrapped up.

822
00:39:44,015 --> 00:39:46,618
Part of the folklore, we say,
is where that came from

823
00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:49,621
is that the salesmen would tell
people that it was bad luck

824
00:39:49,688 --> 00:39:52,424
to leave an umbrella
open indoors.

825
00:39:52,491 --> 00:39:55,160
So then they'd be
folded up, they'd be wet

826
00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:56,795
and because
they were made of silk

827
00:39:56,862 --> 00:39:58,630
in those days,
then they would rot

828
00:39:58,697 --> 00:40:01,266
and then they'd come
back to buy another umbrella.

829
00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:04,470
You go to James Smith now,
they've got an enormous

830
00:40:04,536 --> 00:40:07,439
horseshoe saying,
"Don't worry, it's not bad luck.

831
00:40:07,506 --> 00:40:09,374
You can do what you
like with your umbrella.

832
00:40:09,441 --> 00:40:12,110
This horseshoe will
protect you." Honestly.

833
00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:16,448
There's a secret part
in every Englishman which wants

834
00:40:16,515 --> 00:40:18,316
to be The Gentleman Spy.

835
00:40:18,383 --> 00:40:20,586
The immaculately
tailored Savile Row suit,

836
00:40:20,652 --> 00:40:22,854
the rolled up umbrella.
It's as deeply rooted

837
00:40:22,921 --> 00:40:25,557
in English culture
these days, as cricket is.

838
00:40:28,059 --> 00:40:31,196
If you've got the money and
if you've got the inclination

839
00:40:31,262 --> 00:40:35,200
to have someone look after you,
to treat you, to pamper you,

840
00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:37,302
go to somewhere like Trumper's.

841
00:40:37,368 --> 00:40:41,306
They may even give you the
cologne that James Bond wore.

842
00:40:42,407 --> 00:40:45,010
We're at Geo. F. Trumper.

843
00:40:45,076 --> 00:40:48,780
It's a flagship store,
this has been here 100 years.

844
00:40:48,847 --> 00:40:50,882
Open the door
in the morning and your body

845
00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:52,651
gets the goose bumps going.

846
00:40:52,718 --> 00:40:54,986
We always give accessories

847
00:40:55,053 --> 00:40:56,822
to the James Bond films.

848
00:40:56,888 --> 00:40:59,124
You could miss it if
you didn't know what you were

849
00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:00,358
looking at in the bathroom,

850
00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:01,993
but we usually spot them.

851
00:41:02,994 --> 00:41:04,429
People trust us.

852
00:41:04,496 --> 00:41:06,031
All the famous
people that come to us

853
00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:07,999
trust that we'll
never mention who they are.

854
00:41:08,066 --> 00:41:10,268
We never phone magazines
or newspapers when they arrive.

855
00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,337
They come in, feel very relaxed,

856
00:41:12,403 --> 00:41:14,940
as if nobody's recognized them.

857
00:41:15,006 --> 00:41:16,307
Ian McKellen?

858
00:41:16,842 --> 00:41:17,943
Yes.

859
00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:20,646
Oh, I have been there once.

860
00:41:21,613 --> 00:41:22,981
Yes, to get a shave.

861
00:41:23,949 --> 00:41:25,183
Yes, it was very good.

862
00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:27,686
So even
the current Prime Minister

863
00:41:27,753 --> 00:41:30,722
was a customer of
our other branch in St James'.

864
00:41:30,789 --> 00:41:32,558
We actually
don't do his hair anymore,

865
00:41:32,624 --> 00:41:34,860
which is probably
noticeable by the haircuts.

866
00:41:35,894 --> 00:41:37,696
What, he pays
to get that haircut?

867
00:41:37,763 --> 00:41:39,197
I just assumed his mum did it.

868
00:41:39,264 --> 00:41:40,632
That's ridiculous.

869
00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:53,278
I love looking at gardens,
sitting in gardens,

870
00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:54,713
walking through gardens.

871
00:41:55,413 --> 00:41:57,983
I am hopeless
at being a gardener.

872
00:41:58,817 --> 00:42:00,619
Sir Edmund Loder
that classic example

873
00:42:00,686 --> 00:42:02,287
of an English eccentric,

874
00:42:02,353 --> 00:42:03,855
having that sort
of passion that drive

875
00:42:03,922 --> 00:42:06,224
to build a garden
on such a grand scale,

876
00:42:06,291 --> 00:42:08,860
a great deal of it
by his own hand.

877
00:42:10,061 --> 00:42:11,930
Leonardslee's
often referred to as one

878
00:42:11,997 --> 00:42:14,332
of the most important
woodland gardens in England.

879
00:42:14,866 --> 00:42:16,902
A lot of the English
garden design was taking

880
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:18,770
influence from Europe.

881
00:42:18,837 --> 00:42:20,748
After the English landscape
movement and the woodland

882
00:42:20,772 --> 00:42:22,774
garden explosion,
suddenly English gardens

883
00:42:22,841 --> 00:42:24,042
were influencing Europe.

884
00:42:24,676 --> 00:42:26,453
And apparently Hitler
had his eye on Leonardslee

885
00:42:26,477 --> 00:42:28,413
as his new home.

886
00:42:28,479 --> 00:42:30,599
The great English film
Black Narcissus was shot here.

887
00:42:30,649 --> 00:42:33,619
Sir Edmund created
a landscape which could pass

888
00:42:33,685 --> 00:42:35,120
for the Himalayas, certainly

889
00:42:35,186 --> 00:42:36,822
with the rhododendrons and
azaleas.

890
00:42:36,888 --> 00:42:38,857
It's a place to get lost in,
a place to wander

891
00:42:38,924 --> 00:42:40,604
and every day
it's a privilege and an honor

892
00:42:40,659 --> 00:42:42,661
to come in and work
in this classic example

893
00:42:42,728 --> 00:42:43,962
of an English woodland garden.

894
00:42:46,197 --> 00:42:47,766
One of the definitions

895
00:42:47,833 --> 00:42:50,101
of Britishness
is a love of gardens.

896
00:42:50,168 --> 00:42:53,571
So even if you're living on
the fifth floor of a high rise

897
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,273
and if you have
a little balcony outside,

898
00:42:55,340 --> 00:42:57,475
it's full of pots
with things growing in it.

899
00:42:57,542 --> 00:42:58,977
It's extraordinary.

900
00:42:59,044 --> 00:43:00,779
The British love gardening.

901
00:43:00,846 --> 00:43:03,448
The English are obsessed
with gardens and that probably

902
00:43:03,514 --> 00:43:06,284
culminates with the Chelsea
Flower Show every year.

903
00:43:06,351 --> 00:43:09,387
It brings
a real mix of different types

904
00:43:09,454 --> 00:43:11,790
of design
in one location for people

905
00:43:11,857 --> 00:43:13,817
to just get inspiration
from for their own gardens

906
00:43:13,859 --> 00:43:15,961
and for
their own houses even as well.

907
00:43:16,027 --> 00:43:18,529
This is essentially like,
I suppose, the Champions League

908
00:43:18,596 --> 00:43:20,832
of gardening that
I'm visiting today, I think,

909
00:43:20,899 --> 00:43:22,634
and having
had a little walk around,

910
00:43:22,701 --> 00:43:24,670
I'm definitely
getting that sense.

911
00:43:24,736 --> 00:43:27,216
This is fantastic, I mean it's
if you like, in our back garden.

912
00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:31,142
Chelsea is the
quintessential British occasion.

913
00:43:31,209 --> 00:43:32,978
It is. One of them.

914
00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:34,880
What is
so quintessentially British

915
00:43:34,946 --> 00:43:36,782
about the Chelsea Flower Show?

916
00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:38,425
That we're here
in this weather with no coats

917
00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:40,251
and with nothing else on.

918
00:43:40,318 --> 00:43:41,853
And it's fun, and it's fun.

919
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,822
You get the chance
to put a pretty frock on

920
00:43:43,889 --> 00:43:46,091
and you see beautiful things
and chat to lovely people.

921
00:43:46,157 --> 00:43:48,426
And we are a Royal Borough,
because Queen Victoria,

922
00:43:48,493 --> 00:43:50,528
on her deathbed,
decreed that the borough

923
00:43:50,595 --> 00:43:52,664
she was born in should
become a Royal Borough.

924
00:43:52,731 --> 00:43:55,009
So that's why we're the Royal
Borough of Kensington, Chelsea.

925
00:43:55,033 --> 00:43:56,510
And later on this afternoon,
we'll be welcoming

926
00:43:56,534 --> 00:43:58,169
some of the Royal Family,

927
00:43:58,236 --> 00:44:00,038
some of the people
that live in our boroughs.

928
00:44:00,105 --> 00:44:03,074
So it all comes together
on our RHS Chelsea Flower Show.

929
00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:10,015
♪♪♪

930
00:44:15,921 --> 00:44:19,224
It's truly brilliant
just to meet a fellow queen.

931
00:44:19,290 --> 00:44:22,861
Especially today, where
it is the art form of gardening

932
00:44:22,928 --> 00:44:24,362
at the Chelsea Flower Show.

933
00:44:24,429 --> 00:44:26,064
And the art form of drag.

934
00:44:26,131 --> 00:44:30,068
And just a gorgeous
British icon, as well.

935
00:44:30,135 --> 00:44:31,669
Absolutely.
Here here.

936
00:44:31,737 --> 00:44:33,972
What a pleasure
it is to meet Judi Dench.

937
00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:36,842
Thank you.

938
00:44:36,908 --> 00:44:38,877
Is it really bad as well
that I really just wanted

939
00:44:38,944 --> 00:44:40,584
to joke and be like,
"It's such a pleasure

940
00:44:40,645 --> 00:44:41,913
to meet Maggie Smith."

941
00:44:42,848 --> 00:44:45,717
But no, it truly is a pleasure
to meet you, honestly.

942
00:44:45,784 --> 00:44:47,618
And you, you look beautiful.

943
00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:48,854
Thank you.

944
00:44:52,357 --> 00:44:55,260
I was making handbags
in the early seventies

945
00:44:55,326 --> 00:44:59,030
and the opportunity
came to buy Launer.

946
00:44:59,097 --> 00:45:01,900
When I bought the company,
it had the Royal Warrant,

947
00:45:01,967 --> 00:45:03,969
but it'd not been really used.

948
00:45:04,702 --> 00:45:07,038
I obviously wanted
to go direct to the palace

949
00:45:07,105 --> 00:45:08,874
and slowly managed to do that.

950
00:45:09,474 --> 00:45:11,777
Oh, the Queen
is a delightful person.

951
00:45:12,043 --> 00:45:13,979
Just like the lady next door.

952
00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:17,115
Very interested in what we do,
because when she was

953
00:45:17,182 --> 00:45:20,118
in the factory, she spent
a good afternoon with us.

954
00:45:21,186 --> 00:45:24,589
It's reported
that the Queen has 200 handbags,

955
00:45:24,655 --> 00:45:27,558
predominantly
Launer London handbags.

956
00:45:27,625 --> 00:45:30,829
If I was lucky enough
to be invited for an audience

957
00:45:30,896 --> 00:45:33,564
with the Queen, I think
the most mortifying thing for me

958
00:45:33,631 --> 00:45:35,466
would be if she moved
her Launer handbag

959
00:45:35,533 --> 00:45:38,303
from her left to her right arm.

960
00:45:38,369 --> 00:45:41,306
It is suggested that's her
indication to the courtiers

961
00:45:41,372 --> 00:45:42,507
to come and rescue her.

962
00:45:43,441 --> 00:45:46,311
The Launer handbag, as well
as being a stylish accessory,

963
00:45:46,377 --> 00:45:50,481
has become her escape route
in difficult social situations.

964
00:45:50,548 --> 00:45:52,650
It's an understated
British way of getting out

965
00:45:52,717 --> 00:45:55,053
of an awkward situation.

966
00:45:56,287 --> 00:45:58,323
We're very lucky
to be in The Crown.

967
00:45:58,389 --> 00:46:01,492
The costume designers
were interested in coming

968
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:04,529
to the showroom, because
they knew that Mrs. Thatcher

969
00:46:04,595 --> 00:46:07,598
and Her Majesty
carried my handbags.

970
00:46:07,665 --> 00:46:11,169
That's very intriguing
that two silhouetted,

971
00:46:11,236 --> 00:46:14,639
famous, pair of ladies
chose the same handbag brand.

972
00:46:15,140 --> 00:46:17,976
This was the Traviata,
which is the Queen's.

973
00:46:18,543 --> 00:46:20,311
I know this
is a beautiful white one.

974
00:46:20,378 --> 00:46:24,049
Mrs. Thatcher had the Olympia,
which was the nearest

975
00:46:24,115 --> 00:46:27,552
to the bag that she carried
when she bought from me.

976
00:46:27,986 --> 00:46:29,254
Both great ladies.

977
00:46:33,791 --> 00:46:35,560
James Purdey
& Sons have been making guns

978
00:46:35,626 --> 00:46:37,362
for quite a long time now.

979
00:46:37,428 --> 00:46:39,898
They are probably the finest
gunmaker in the world,

980
00:46:39,965 --> 00:46:41,732
as British gunmakers are.

981
00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:44,135
These take around about
two and a half, three years

982
00:46:44,202 --> 00:46:46,271
to build, so
this is a real work of art.

983
00:46:46,337 --> 00:46:48,840
New this would be 100,000 plus.

984
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,118
You will see
someone using one of these,

985
00:46:51,142 --> 00:46:52,743
particularly
on a day like today,

986
00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:54,512
which is the Glorious Twelfth.

987
00:46:54,579 --> 00:46:56,514
It's probably the most
exhilarating sport of all,

988
00:46:56,581 --> 00:46:58,349
bird shooting, I think.

989
00:46:58,416 --> 00:47:00,751
They can beat on the wing
at up to 70 miles an hour,

990
00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:02,320
which is a real sport.

991
00:47:02,387 --> 00:47:05,356
Hitting them is quite a feat.

992
00:47:05,823 --> 00:47:08,393
The Royals are traditionally
very involved in country sports,

993
00:47:08,459 --> 00:47:10,061
particularly shooting.

994
00:47:10,128 --> 00:47:12,497
They're quite well known
to be part of that scene.

995
00:47:12,563 --> 00:47:14,866
That quintessential
British scene, yes.

996
00:47:16,968 --> 00:47:18,736
I think
I was brought up to think

997
00:47:18,803 --> 00:47:20,171
it was cruel to kill animals.

998
00:47:20,872 --> 00:47:23,541
And the idea
of the posh folks going off

999
00:47:23,608 --> 00:47:25,243
and the centre
of their activity,

1000
00:47:25,310 --> 00:47:27,745
being killing something.

1001
00:47:28,179 --> 00:47:30,715
I think you've got
to be of a certain frame

1002
00:47:30,781 --> 00:47:32,417
of mind of which I am not.

1003
00:47:33,018 --> 00:47:35,086
I'd much rather
they were gathered together,

1004
00:47:35,153 --> 00:47:37,588
the central point of the weekend

1005
00:47:37,655 --> 00:47:40,892
was when they all dressed up and
did charades, played charades,

1006
00:47:40,959 --> 00:47:42,527
put on a little pantomime.

1007
00:47:43,995 --> 00:47:45,130
Shooting a bird...

1008
00:47:45,196 --> 00:47:46,364
Aww.

1009
00:47:46,431 --> 00:47:48,299
If that's essentially English,

1010
00:47:48,366 --> 00:47:52,070
it's not an Englishness
that I can respond to at all.

1011
00:47:52,137 --> 00:47:54,906
I look at the Glorious Twelfth
and think it is a load

1012
00:47:54,973 --> 00:47:57,608
of baloney
as far as I'm concerned.

1013
00:47:57,675 --> 00:47:59,277
I'm quite grateful
that they're not

1014
00:47:59,344 --> 00:48:01,146
blapping away
at the grouse all year long,

1015
00:48:01,212 --> 00:48:05,783
but it's a quite absurd
piece of gastronomic elitism.

1016
00:48:05,850 --> 00:48:09,820
I don't know anybody who eats
grouse on August the 12th,

1017
00:48:09,887 --> 00:48:12,590
but I'm sure if we went to some
of the smart hotels in London,

1018
00:48:12,657 --> 00:48:16,094
they would serve it to me for
an astronomical amount of money,

1019
00:48:16,161 --> 00:48:17,996
which I do not wish to pay.

1020
00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:21,199
We're at the Stafford Hotel,
and today we're

1021
00:48:21,266 --> 00:48:24,702
in the Game Bird, which is our
wonderful signature restaurant.

1022
00:48:25,170 --> 00:48:27,605
This hotel
has been here since 1912,

1023
00:48:27,672 --> 00:48:30,575
but Glorious Twelfth
goes back to 1853.

1024
00:48:30,942 --> 00:48:33,644
So ever since that day,
we've been serving grouse

1025
00:48:33,711 --> 00:48:36,314
on the 12th of August
and get excited by it.

1026
00:48:36,381 --> 00:48:38,583
It was shot this morning
and is on its way

1027
00:48:38,649 --> 00:48:40,885
from the North Yorkshire Moors.

1028
00:48:43,488 --> 00:48:45,856
It's the Glorious Twelfth,
first grouse of the season.

1029
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:47,392
We have it here at The Stafford.

1030
00:48:48,326 --> 00:48:49,794
It's a very discreet place.

1031
00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:51,462
So we're not about celebrity,

1032
00:48:51,529 --> 00:48:54,065
we're not about royalty,
but they all come here.

1033
00:48:54,132 --> 00:48:56,301
Her Majesty,
the Queen visits the Stafford.

1034
00:48:56,567 --> 00:48:58,970
The Queen Mother used to visit
for afternoon tea weekly

1035
00:48:59,037 --> 00:49:00,738
walking up from Clarence House.

1036
00:49:00,805 --> 00:49:03,241
The cellars served the King
of England when he lived

1037
00:49:03,308 --> 00:49:04,542
in St. James's Palace.

1038
00:49:04,609 --> 00:49:06,477
We served the port to the king.

1039
00:49:06,544 --> 00:49:08,413
It is a very special place.

1040
00:49:11,916 --> 00:49:13,384
We're going
to be getting through

1041
00:49:13,451 --> 00:49:15,053
what's called the blessing.

1042
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,954
The blessing involves
the final fitting.

1043
00:49:17,022 --> 00:49:18,932
We're looking at the small
details now and the general

1044
00:49:18,956 --> 00:49:21,892
comfort that we hear from you
and how you enjoy the suit.

1045
00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:25,730
Also, we have the extra cloth
there, which I must say Frank,

1046
00:49:25,796 --> 00:49:27,698
if any prosperity takes place,

1047
00:49:27,765 --> 00:49:30,268
we can have four inches
of extra cloth inside to allow

1048
00:49:30,335 --> 00:49:31,769
that difference in inches.

1049
00:49:31,836 --> 00:49:34,439
So do not haste,
we are there for you.

1050
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,142
This is good to go now.

1051
00:49:41,479 --> 00:49:43,314
Of course, in reality,

1052
00:49:43,381 --> 00:49:45,126
I couldn't show you around
because it's members only.

1053
00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:46,817
Absolutely.

1054
00:49:47,152 --> 00:49:48,586
We're rule breakers.

1055
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:53,024
So let me just
show you some things here

1056
00:49:53,091 --> 00:49:56,861
in the South Library
that are quite interesting.

1057
00:49:57,795 --> 00:50:00,631
This is Faraday's wheelchair.

1058
00:50:00,698 --> 00:50:06,737
Faraday, our great scientist,
was also the honorary secretary

1059
00:50:06,804 --> 00:50:10,508
just at the very beginning
of the club's history.

1060
00:50:11,342 --> 00:50:13,978
And there
we have Dickens' chair.

1061
00:50:14,745 --> 00:50:17,082
And this incredibly
tall arrangement,

1062
00:50:17,148 --> 00:50:20,051
with the three tiers,
was the cheapest way

1063
00:50:20,118 --> 00:50:23,921
of accommodating this huge
number of books in one room.

1064
00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:27,925
The only problem is that a lot
of older members who have

1065
00:50:27,992 --> 00:50:30,895
vertigo are terrified
of going up there,

1066
00:50:30,961 --> 00:50:33,698
so we send the library staff up
to find the books.

1067
00:50:33,998 --> 00:50:35,266
I can well imagine that.

1068
00:50:37,135 --> 00:50:38,403
The Athenaeum does have

1069
00:50:38,469 --> 00:50:39,870
an amazing role of honor.

1070
00:50:40,171 --> 00:50:44,041
Charles Dickens,
Charles Darwin, Churchill,

1071
00:50:44,109 --> 00:50:47,512
J.M.W. Turner, who does
those wonderful interiors,

1072
00:50:47,812 --> 00:50:49,080
member of the club.

1073
00:50:50,848 --> 00:50:52,250
Wherever you look in a way.

1074
00:50:53,384 --> 00:50:55,286
The clubs
went through a very hard time

1075
00:50:55,353 --> 00:50:57,288
in Pall Mall and in St James'.

1076
00:50:57,355 --> 00:50:59,023
And they were out of favor,

1077
00:50:59,090 --> 00:51:01,792
they were old fashioned,
they were seen to be a relic

1078
00:51:01,859 --> 00:51:03,461
of the 19th century.

1079
00:51:03,528 --> 00:51:05,830
If you read the novels
of Dickens and Thackeray,

1080
00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:08,299
there always seemed to be
somebody going off to the club

1081
00:51:08,366 --> 00:51:10,801
and somebody coming
back from Parliament to report

1082
00:51:10,868 --> 00:51:12,870
over a nice glass of Port.

1083
00:51:13,338 --> 00:51:15,473
I've been a
member of a private members club

1084
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:16,974
purely and simply because

1085
00:51:17,041 --> 00:51:18,609
I've got it as
part of a promotion

1086
00:51:18,676 --> 00:51:20,578
and part of my work
and what I was doing.

1087
00:51:20,645 --> 00:51:23,848
But average person, private
member's club, is irrelevant.

1088
00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:25,316
That's out of our league.

1089
00:51:25,383 --> 00:51:27,118
- Yeah.
- That's out of our league.

1090
00:51:27,185 --> 00:51:29,820
We are just London boys.

1091
00:51:29,887 --> 00:51:32,123
That's another...

1092
00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:33,624
It's another world for us.

1093
00:51:33,691 --> 00:51:34,851
Another world, exactly, yeah.

1094
00:51:34,892 --> 00:51:36,227
But they're lovely places.

1095
00:51:36,294 --> 00:51:38,028
- Apparently.
- Yeah.

1096
00:51:38,095 --> 00:51:39,730
We only go to the main door,

1097
00:51:39,797 --> 00:51:41,437
we don't get invited in,
we just drop off.

1098
00:51:42,867 --> 00:51:46,671
It's a very
useful way of making sure

1099
00:51:46,737 --> 00:51:49,039
that you can meet someone
and entertain them

1100
00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:50,775
in the middle of London,

1101
00:51:50,841 --> 00:51:54,712
but I would say it's more
a functional thing for me

1102
00:51:54,779 --> 00:51:58,183
than part
of my being and identity.

1103
00:51:58,249 --> 00:52:00,718
The only
real advantage of a club

1104
00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:02,920
would be that it'd be a place

1105
00:52:02,987 --> 00:52:05,022
where you could
go and sit quietly.

1106
00:52:05,089 --> 00:52:07,392
But who might come up to you

1107
00:52:07,458 --> 00:52:10,428
and want to
have a good long chat?

1108
00:52:10,495 --> 00:52:12,997
Actors have a number of clubs

1109
00:52:13,063 --> 00:52:14,832
that they could
be expected to join.

1110
00:52:14,899 --> 00:52:17,468
The Garrick, but women
aren't allowed to be members

1111
00:52:17,535 --> 00:52:18,803
of the Garrick Club.

1112
00:52:18,869 --> 00:52:20,705
Why would I want to go to a club

1113
00:52:20,771 --> 00:52:22,573
that wouldn't have women in it?
I don't know.

1114
00:52:23,541 --> 00:52:25,376
The men's clubs,
they can go there,

1115
00:52:25,443 --> 00:52:27,745
they can sit,
they can talk about racing

1116
00:52:27,812 --> 00:52:29,347
and Backgammon and things

1117
00:52:29,414 --> 00:52:31,549
and I don't
necessarily want to do that.

1118
00:52:31,616 --> 00:52:33,251
You also know where they are.

1119
00:52:33,318 --> 00:52:34,752
That's probably quite positive.

1120
00:52:34,819 --> 00:52:36,787
You shouldn't
regard them as exclusive,

1121
00:52:36,854 --> 00:52:39,056
just an opportunity
to meet other people

1122
00:52:39,123 --> 00:52:41,726
and to widen your
own circle of friends

1123
00:52:41,792 --> 00:52:45,230
and the bonhomie and the banter
that can arise from it.

1124
00:52:45,296 --> 00:52:46,731
It's fun.

1125
00:52:46,797 --> 00:52:48,366
It's quite British.

1126
00:52:50,235 --> 00:52:52,169
John Wilson Croker,

1127
00:52:52,237 --> 00:52:55,873
he saw that in London, there
were lots of political clubs,

1128
00:52:55,940 --> 00:52:58,676
there were lots of what
were known as fashionable clubs,

1129
00:52:58,743 --> 00:53:00,778
really, for the aristocracy,
if you like.

1130
00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:04,482
But what was needed
perhaps was a club for writers

1131
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:06,917
and artists and scientists,

1132
00:53:06,984 --> 00:53:09,720
which would not
be about politics

1133
00:53:09,787 --> 00:53:12,423
and would not be about class.

1134
00:53:12,490 --> 00:53:16,394
The club built
this Grecian temple

1135
00:53:16,461 --> 00:53:18,729
and under the auspices of Athena

1136
00:53:18,796 --> 00:53:20,631
and that sense
of classical wisdom,

1137
00:53:20,698 --> 00:53:22,533
the scientists, artists,

1138
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,570
writers, judges,
cabinet ministers,

1139
00:53:25,636 --> 00:53:30,040
bishops, whatever their views,
they could get along together.

1140
00:53:30,107 --> 00:53:34,579
A place at
the Athenaeum was like gold.

1141
00:53:34,645 --> 00:53:37,915
This is a very
British institution,

1142
00:53:37,982 --> 00:53:39,584
which suits me very well.

1143
00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:41,786
It reflects aspects of Britain

1144
00:53:41,852 --> 00:53:44,322
and its history that I warm to.

1145
00:53:44,389 --> 00:53:48,459
You know, inclusiveness,
liberalism and conservatism.

1146
00:53:48,526 --> 00:53:51,228
And one of the things you have
to be very careful about here,

1147
00:53:51,296 --> 00:53:54,064
at club table when you
don't know whose opposite you,

1148
00:53:54,131 --> 00:53:57,001
is you might be
sounding off about some subject

1149
00:53:57,067 --> 00:53:59,236
and you find
the person opposite you,

1150
00:53:59,304 --> 00:54:01,839
is the world's
leading expert in it.

1151
00:54:01,906 --> 00:54:06,477
So you tend to find people
around here are quite cautious

1152
00:54:06,544 --> 00:54:09,947
to check on who's present.

1153
00:54:10,014 --> 00:54:11,716
That's happened to me.

1154
00:54:11,782 --> 00:54:14,051
Terrifying.

1155
00:54:14,118 --> 00:54:17,154
In terms
of the membership of this club,

1156
00:54:17,221 --> 00:54:20,190
what I've tracked
is the story of Britain,

1157
00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:23,761
because Britain has
become much more dominated

1158
00:54:23,828 --> 00:54:27,498
by the middle class
than by the upper class.

1159
00:54:27,565 --> 00:54:29,767
You're aware of classes.

1160
00:54:29,834 --> 00:54:33,571
You know Shaw said, "When an
Englishman opens his mouth..."

1161
00:54:33,638 --> 00:54:35,840
"people judge him."

1162
00:54:35,906 --> 00:54:38,809
The Americans are
quite good at class, actually.

1163
00:54:38,876 --> 00:54:40,845
Particularly among
the upper echelons.

1164
00:54:40,911 --> 00:54:43,180
But the British have
been very class-conscious

1165
00:54:43,247 --> 00:54:44,815
and some still are.

1166
00:54:44,882 --> 00:54:47,418
But I think there's
been a big change there.

1167
00:54:47,485 --> 00:54:49,954
I think there's
been a big change there.

1168
00:54:50,020 --> 00:54:53,824
Has the class system
changed so sufficiently

1169
00:54:53,891 --> 00:54:55,960
that we're able to move forward?

1170
00:54:56,026 --> 00:55:00,998
It probably has, because
probably there's more people

1171
00:55:01,065 --> 00:55:04,268
from various backgrounds
making vast amounts of money.

1172
00:55:04,335 --> 00:55:06,003
I suppose that's
the new class system

1173
00:55:06,070 --> 00:55:07,605
now in our country, isn't it?

1174
00:55:07,672 --> 00:55:10,007
People who have money.
People don't have money.

1175
00:55:18,949 --> 00:55:20,250
Neil.

1176
00:55:21,285 --> 00:55:22,920
How are you?

1177
00:55:22,987 --> 00:55:24,389
Frank, nice to see you again.

1178
00:55:24,455 --> 00:55:26,190
Nice to see you too, absolutely.

1179
00:55:26,256 --> 00:55:27,892
Okay Frank, so here we are,

1180
00:55:27,958 --> 00:55:29,360
all ready for
your second fitting.

1181
00:55:29,427 --> 00:55:31,061
You'll see a slight difference

1182
00:55:31,128 --> 00:55:32,697
to when you were
last here in so much

1183
00:55:32,763 --> 00:55:34,432
as we've now made
the bespoke shoe trees.

1184
00:55:34,499 --> 00:55:37,768
Which my younger brother
made in our tree making section.

1185
00:55:37,835 --> 00:55:39,637
He's a fairly new...
New character.

1186
00:55:39,704 --> 00:55:41,906
He's only been here
30 years or so, so yes,

1187
00:55:41,972 --> 00:55:43,541
we're still trying to train him.

1188
00:55:43,608 --> 00:55:45,410
He's a lifer, he's a lifer.

1189
00:55:45,476 --> 00:55:48,045
For sure, but most of us are,
most of us are so, yes.

1190
00:55:48,112 --> 00:55:50,481
So the trees are also bespoke

1191
00:55:50,548 --> 00:55:52,950
and we're left with this
beautifully varnished shoe tree,

1192
00:55:53,017 --> 00:55:55,920
which is an exact
replica of your foot also.

1193
00:55:55,986 --> 00:55:58,689
So, it's got the correct width
and contours that your foot has,

1194
00:55:58,756 --> 00:56:00,458
so the shoe will
never shrink back,

1195
00:56:00,525 --> 00:56:02,793
you'd always
maintain that size and shape,

1196
00:56:02,860 --> 00:56:05,930
which is very important
for the longevity of the shoe.

1197
00:56:05,996 --> 00:56:08,065
The double monk is a shoe

1198
00:56:08,132 --> 00:56:09,934
that's been part
of the firm's history

1199
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,336
since it was
created by my grandfather.

1200
00:56:12,403 --> 00:56:14,672
It has a sort
of timeless quality to it.

1201
00:56:14,739 --> 00:56:18,075
So you've got
the oak bark sole hammered

1202
00:56:18,142 --> 00:56:21,278
and shaped to your last
and hand-stitched onto the weld.

1203
00:56:21,345 --> 00:56:23,280
The heel was built up with...

1204
00:56:23,347 --> 00:56:26,050
There's no block heel, this
is individual layers of leather.

1205
00:56:26,116 --> 00:56:28,152
Every pair of shoes goes through

1206
00:56:28,218 --> 00:56:29,954
four different
craftsman's hands.

1207
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:31,798
We've got the closer who
makes the beautiful uppers,

1208
00:56:31,822 --> 00:56:33,333
the shoemaker who's
stitched all the sole

1209
00:56:33,357 --> 00:56:35,059
and the heel together.

1210
00:56:35,125 --> 00:56:36,970
And then the tree makers
who make the wooden inserts

1211
00:56:36,994 --> 00:56:38,796
to go in afterwards.

1212
00:56:38,863 --> 00:56:40,474
So all these guys are
highly trained, highly skilled.

1213
00:56:40,498 --> 00:56:42,132
It's very much
a team collective effort.

1214
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:43,834
I get to see you
and get all praise

1215
00:56:43,901 --> 00:56:45,302
what a beautiful shoe it is,

1216
00:56:45,369 --> 00:56:46,937
so I get
the glory when they fit well,

1217
00:56:47,004 --> 00:56:48,338
but by the same token,

1218
00:56:48,405 --> 00:56:49,874
I also get
the grief if they don't.

1219
00:56:49,940 --> 00:56:51,542
So I guess it's
a double-edged sword.

1220
00:56:53,811 --> 00:56:55,580
I kind of feel like

1221
00:56:55,646 --> 00:56:57,314
I'd want to sleep
in them if I could.

1222
00:56:59,416 --> 00:57:03,654
If you're invited to one of our
many amazing country houses

1223
00:57:03,721 --> 00:57:06,156
for the weekend,
you wouldn't go wrong

1224
00:57:06,223 --> 00:57:07,825
by wearing a Henry Poole suit

1225
00:57:07,892 --> 00:57:10,060
and a John Lobb
shoe for your arrival.

1226
00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:17,735
I'm sure you
recognize this room.

1227
00:57:17,802 --> 00:57:21,539
Oh wow. I do, the library.

1228
00:57:21,606 --> 00:57:24,274
Well, there are
many portraits in it.

1229
00:57:24,341 --> 00:57:27,044
There's one there
of the 1st Earl of Carnarvon.

1230
00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:29,547
Obviously, Geordie
and I have got to number eight.

1231
00:57:29,614 --> 00:57:32,282
What's quite special
about Highclere,

1232
00:57:32,349 --> 00:57:35,452
is there has been
an estate here, a home here,

1233
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,722
if you like,
for at least 1200 years.

1234
00:57:37,788 --> 00:57:40,891
So one of the most special
things about this building,

1235
00:57:40,958 --> 00:57:44,061
heritage, gardens,
home is the longevity.

1236
00:57:44,128 --> 00:57:47,197
I think the idea that
you have this great perspective

1237
00:57:47,264 --> 00:57:50,034
looking backwards,
a sense of an anchor,

1238
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:53,771
perhaps a sense of reassurance
in quite a changeable world.

1239
00:57:53,838 --> 00:57:55,706
We've been here a while.

1240
00:57:55,773 --> 00:57:58,576
In 1922, Lord Carnarvon
and Highclere Castle

1241
00:57:58,643 --> 00:58:01,211
were front page news
around the world.

1242
00:58:01,278 --> 00:58:05,015
Against all the odds, Lord
Carnarvon and Howard Carter,

1243
00:58:05,082 --> 00:58:08,185
two maverick Englishmen,
discovered the steps,

1244
00:58:08,252 --> 00:58:11,589
the 22 steps which led
down to the Tomb of Tutankhamun.

1245
00:58:11,656 --> 00:58:13,758
That glint of gold.

1246
00:58:13,824 --> 00:58:18,362
That glimpse back into a
Pharaonic world 3500 years old,

1247
00:58:18,428 --> 00:58:21,966
captured the whole
world's imagination.

1248
00:58:22,032 --> 00:58:26,036
What a story to have
at Highclere Castle.

1249
00:58:27,404 --> 00:58:29,439
My father-in-law had
always told me the story,

1250
00:58:29,506 --> 00:58:32,376
the end of World War II,
he and some of his Army friends

1251
00:58:32,442 --> 00:58:35,680
with Princess Elizabeth
and Princess Margaret ran around

1252
00:58:35,746 --> 00:58:37,848
the streets
of London and did the conga

1253
00:58:37,915 --> 00:58:41,085
and just celebrated
the end of World War II.

1254
00:58:41,151 --> 00:58:43,921
And they were all
standing outside the black gates

1255
00:58:43,988 --> 00:58:45,489
of Buckingham Palace.

1256
00:58:45,556 --> 00:58:48,659
My father-in-law
with Princess Elizabeth

1257
00:58:48,726 --> 00:58:50,628
and Margaret shouting
up to the King and Queen,

1258
00:58:50,695 --> 00:58:52,630
"Long live the King and Queen."

1259
00:58:52,697 --> 00:58:55,065
They'd always remained friends

1260
00:58:55,132 --> 00:58:56,500
and she had a love of racing,

1261
00:58:56,567 --> 00:58:58,202
so he was her racing manager,

1262
00:58:58,268 --> 00:59:01,305
but her racing friend above all.

1263
00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:04,975
Geordie, my husband,
and I took over the Castle

1264
00:59:05,042 --> 00:59:07,444
after his father had sadly died.

1265
00:59:07,511 --> 00:59:10,581
His parents had
never lived in it.

1266
00:59:10,648 --> 00:59:12,917
It reminds you that a home

1267
00:59:12,983 --> 00:59:15,586
is about welcoming
friends to the door.

1268
00:59:15,653 --> 00:59:17,788
Julian and Emma Fellowes
were good friends

1269
00:59:17,855 --> 00:59:19,624
and I thought it'd be fun

1270
00:59:19,690 --> 00:59:21,826
and I love putting
together weekend house parties,

1271
00:59:21,892 --> 00:59:25,329
it was where this house started
in Victorian times.

1272
00:59:25,395 --> 00:59:28,899
So Julian Fellowes
said that he wrote Downton

1273
00:59:28,966 --> 00:59:30,935
with Highclere in mind.

1274
00:59:31,001 --> 00:59:33,437
None of us dreamt or
guessed how successful

1275
00:59:33,503 --> 00:59:35,305
Downton Abbey would be,

1276
00:59:35,372 --> 00:59:37,675
how we'd all fall in love
with the different characters,

1277
00:59:37,742 --> 00:59:40,010
whether it's Bates
or Anne or Lady Mary.

1278
00:59:40,077 --> 00:59:43,013
It's really Julian Fellowes'
excellent writing

1279
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,484
and I guess the way Maggie Smith
delivers all her lines

1280
00:59:47,551 --> 00:59:50,320
so perfectly.

1281
00:59:51,689 --> 00:59:53,490
It's just making people happy.

1282
00:59:53,557 --> 00:59:55,726
That's all Highclere
wants to do.

1283
00:59:55,793 --> 00:59:57,962
Hats have almost disappeared.

1284
00:59:58,028 --> 00:59:59,864
Ties have almost disappeared.

1285
00:59:59,930 --> 01:00:02,099
Well, we'll be
naked next I should think.

1286
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,171
Lock's dates back to 1676.

1287
01:00:07,237 --> 01:00:09,173
We're the oldest hat shop
in the world

1288
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:11,942
and one of the oldest
still family-owned businesses

1289
01:00:12,009 --> 01:00:13,844
in the world as well.

1290
01:00:13,911 --> 01:00:17,014
We originally opened on
the other side of the street.

1291
01:00:17,081 --> 01:00:19,650
This is the sunny
side of the street.

1292
01:00:19,717 --> 01:00:22,219
You always do more business
on the sunny side of the street,

1293
01:00:22,286 --> 01:00:24,121
because that's
where people want to walk.

1294
01:00:25,222 --> 01:00:27,157
My great, great, great,

1295
01:00:27,224 --> 01:00:28,859
however many
great-grandfathers it is,

1296
01:00:28,926 --> 01:00:30,895
was a gentleman
called James Benning

1297
01:00:30,961 --> 01:00:34,665
and he is famous as he is
the original Mad Hatter

1298
01:00:34,732 --> 01:00:36,533
that Lewis Carroll
based the character on

1299
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,468
in Alice in Wonderland.

1300
01:00:38,535 --> 01:00:42,306
So I am a direct descendant
of the original Mad Hatter.

1301
01:00:42,372 --> 01:00:44,408
I'm very proud of that.

1302
01:00:44,474 --> 01:00:47,011
We've got a great connection
with James Bond.

1303
01:00:47,077 --> 01:00:49,446
We hatted
Sean Connery in the '60s.

1304
01:00:49,513 --> 01:00:52,549
In Dr. No,
he famously wore a Trilby.

1305
01:00:52,616 --> 01:00:55,052
In Goldfinger, Oddjob wore a,

1306
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:58,188
what we call a square crown Coke

1307
01:00:58,255 --> 01:01:00,424
and that was the one
with the reinforced brim,

1308
01:01:00,490 --> 01:01:02,592
which he used to throw
at his victims

1309
01:01:02,659 --> 01:01:05,329
and sliced their heads off
and all sorts.

1310
01:01:05,395 --> 01:01:09,599
Famously, the square
crown Coke was also worn

1311
01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:11,235
by Winston Churchill.

1312
01:01:11,301 --> 01:01:13,337
We were very proud
that Winston Churchill

1313
01:01:13,403 --> 01:01:14,905
was a big customer of ours,

1314
01:01:14,972 --> 01:01:17,775
before and during
and after the war.

1315
01:01:17,842 --> 01:01:21,111
When the war was
taking a turn for the worse,

1316
01:01:21,178 --> 01:01:23,147
you'd find that
when you look in the ledgers,

1317
01:01:23,213 --> 01:01:26,116
there'd be an insertion for
Winston Churchill for a new hat,

1318
01:01:26,183 --> 01:01:28,418
because it was a way
of him lifting his spirits

1319
01:01:28,485 --> 01:01:29,987
when the chips were down.

1320
01:01:30,054 --> 01:01:33,057
One of the moments in history

1321
01:01:33,123 --> 01:01:35,559
that my family
are very proud of,

1322
01:01:35,625 --> 01:01:38,128
is that my grandfather
fitted the crown

1323
01:01:38,195 --> 01:01:39,964
for the Queen's coronation.

1324
01:01:40,030 --> 01:01:42,967
We were commissioned by
Garrards, the Queen's jewellers.

1325
01:01:43,033 --> 01:01:47,037
To make a velvet pad
that went inside the crown,

1326
01:01:47,104 --> 01:01:48,806
so it would size it down,

1327
01:01:48,873 --> 01:01:52,276
so it would fit
the Queen on her coronation day.

1328
01:01:52,342 --> 01:01:54,945
So we use a machine
called a conformateur,

1329
01:01:55,012 --> 01:01:57,681
a French invention,
dates back to 1849

1330
01:01:57,748 --> 01:02:00,617
and we still use
the same machine today.

1331
01:02:00,684 --> 01:02:02,953
We haven't found
a better way of doing it.

1332
01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:05,389
Looks like an instrument
of torture.

1333
01:02:05,455 --> 01:02:08,325
I think someone described it
as quite steampunk

1334
01:02:08,392 --> 01:02:10,127
and I quite like that.

1335
01:02:10,194 --> 01:02:12,462
Right, okay, so if you
look straight ahead for me.

1336
01:02:12,529 --> 01:02:16,400
Plonk the old girl on,
get it centred for you

1337
01:02:16,466 --> 01:02:18,335
and then just pushes down.

1338
01:02:18,402 --> 01:02:21,338
Looks like it should hurt,
but it doesn't hurt at all.

1339
01:02:21,405 --> 01:02:23,808
And then we just
give that a squeeze.

1340
01:02:26,410 --> 01:02:28,846
There we go, lift that off.

1341
01:02:28,913 --> 01:02:30,714
It's little bit of an old girl,

1342
01:02:30,781 --> 01:02:33,117
so we have to give it a little
bit of gentle persuasion.

1343
01:02:33,183 --> 01:02:39,156
And then hopefully, there's
an imprint of your head shape.

1344
01:02:39,223 --> 01:02:40,958
There you go, sir.

1345
01:02:41,025 --> 01:02:43,260
That is amazing
and it's an exotic looking egg.

1346
01:02:43,327 --> 01:02:44,761
Yes, yes.

1347
01:02:46,864 --> 01:02:50,968
What I love is when
I get a customer coming in here,

1348
01:02:51,035 --> 01:02:53,537
a young guy comes in and says,

1349
01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:55,739
"I've always wanted a Lock hat

1350
01:02:55,806 --> 01:02:58,575
"because my grandfather
wore one."

1351
01:03:02,947 --> 01:03:07,885
♪♪♪

1352
01:03:32,176 --> 01:03:38,648
♪♪♪

1353
01:04:08,712 --> 01:04:13,683
♪♪♪

1354
01:04:27,297 --> 01:04:28,765
Frank, you've been very patient

1355
01:04:28,832 --> 01:04:30,734
for the various visits to here

1356
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,072
and today's visit is to
see the outfit completed now.

1357
01:04:35,139 --> 01:04:39,109
I am very, very pleased
as how it's turned out.

1358
01:04:53,723 --> 01:04:56,526
My son
being a racehorse trainer...

1359
01:04:56,593 --> 01:05:00,364
I mean, he's had as many
as over 100 horses in training

1360
01:05:00,430 --> 01:05:04,201
at any one time
and quite how he manages

1361
01:05:04,268 --> 01:05:06,803
to know which horse
to run, in which race,

1362
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:09,039
in which country, I don't know.

1363
01:05:09,106 --> 01:05:13,143
And of course,
a lot of staff here follow Hugo.

1364
01:05:13,210 --> 01:05:15,745
Quite often. I'm stopped
in the passage and they go,

1365
01:05:15,812 --> 01:05:18,148
"Hello, my Lord,
I'm 100 pounds better off

1366
01:05:18,215 --> 01:05:21,251
than when I last saw you."

1367
01:05:21,318 --> 01:05:24,154
won by
the favourite, Chauncery House!

1368
01:05:24,221 --> 01:05:26,090
Trained by Nicky Henderson.

1369
01:05:26,156 --> 01:05:27,958
Ridden by Nico De Boinville.

1370
01:05:28,025 --> 01:05:30,227
We're here at Sandown Park,

1371
01:05:30,294 --> 01:05:32,662
a quintessential
British racecourse.

1372
01:05:32,729 --> 01:05:34,698
We try
and come as much as we can,

1373
01:05:34,764 --> 01:05:37,001
we absolutely love horses.

1374
01:05:37,067 --> 01:05:39,003
We have a share in
a couple of horses as well,

1375
01:05:39,069 --> 01:05:40,389
so it's our favourite place
to be.

1376
01:05:40,437 --> 01:05:42,206
Yeah.

1377
01:05:42,272 --> 01:05:44,250
Sandown Park has always
been a favourite racecourse

1378
01:05:44,274 --> 01:05:45,709
of the Royal Family.

1379
01:05:45,775 --> 01:05:47,611
Indeed, the Queen Mother
used to say

1380
01:05:47,677 --> 01:05:49,213
it was her favourite racecourse.

1381
01:05:49,279 --> 01:05:50,923
And Nicky Henderson,
who trains for the Queen,

1382
01:05:50,947 --> 01:05:52,716
is here today.

1383
01:05:52,782 --> 01:05:54,851
I know people don't
like two-horse races.

1384
01:05:54,918 --> 01:05:57,387
I love them,
in fact, one-horse races.

1385
01:06:01,725 --> 01:06:03,327
Concorde used to come over

1386
01:06:03,393 --> 01:06:05,162
5 to 11 every morning.

1387
01:06:05,229 --> 01:06:07,697
You could set your clock by it.

1388
01:06:07,764 --> 01:06:09,533
Right, we're going again.

1389
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:12,969
I'm Nicky Henderson,
a racehorse trainer.

1390
01:06:14,304 --> 01:06:17,907
I was always equestrian-minded,
if you like.

1391
01:06:17,974 --> 01:06:21,345
Even from school days
and at Eton in those days,

1392
01:06:21,411 --> 01:06:23,080
racing was about
the biggest crime.

1393
01:06:23,147 --> 01:06:25,849
To be caught on a racecourse
was a heinous crime.

1394
01:06:27,084 --> 01:06:29,186
Well, I was very lucky actually,

1395
01:06:29,253 --> 01:06:31,088
because the Queen Mother's
horses came here

1396
01:06:31,155 --> 01:06:32,956
and we had some wonderful times.

1397
01:06:33,023 --> 01:06:36,293
I mean, she was
a spectacular lady.

1398
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,762
I think she
really enjoyed the people

1399
01:06:38,828 --> 01:06:40,530
that were involved in racing.

1400
01:06:40,597 --> 01:06:41,965
Racing's full of characters.

1401
01:06:42,032 --> 01:06:44,468
Some good, some bad,
mostly good.

1402
01:06:47,271 --> 01:06:50,240
The Queen took over
the Queen Mother's horses

1403
01:06:50,307 --> 01:06:52,876
and all the mares
that were breeding.

1404
01:06:52,942 --> 01:06:55,279
She toured the horses
and she loved to come down

1405
01:06:55,345 --> 01:06:57,047
and see them.

1406
01:06:57,114 --> 01:07:00,384
And it's lovely that she
takes such an interest in it all

1407
01:07:00,450 --> 01:07:02,452
and as you know,

1408
01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:06,690
racing is probably her number
one relaxation, hobby, passion.

1409
01:07:08,525 --> 01:07:11,295
Both the Queen Mother
and the Queen, they're A,

1410
01:07:11,361 --> 01:07:13,430
very knowledgeable, but B,

1411
01:07:13,497 --> 01:07:16,933
terribly easy to work with
and talk to about something

1412
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,902
that we both love.

1413
01:07:19,669 --> 01:07:22,739
The Gold Cup, the Champion
Hurdle, the Champion Chase,

1414
01:07:22,806 --> 01:07:25,209
they are the pinnacle,
the Oscar, if you like,

1415
01:07:25,275 --> 01:07:27,111
of the racing world.

1416
01:07:27,177 --> 01:07:30,080
Over the years,
there've been some good days

1417
01:07:30,147 --> 01:07:31,848
and I suppose these
are the special ones,

1418
01:07:31,915 --> 01:07:35,219
because these are Bobs Worth
and Long Run's Gold Cups.

1419
01:07:36,253 --> 01:07:41,191
2012 was a particularly
good Cheltenham festival.

1420
01:07:41,258 --> 01:07:44,961
Horse's feet vary in size
quite considerably

1421
01:07:45,028 --> 01:07:47,464
and as you can see,
there are big ones

1422
01:07:47,531 --> 01:07:48,932
and there are little ones.

1423
01:07:50,567 --> 01:07:53,470
This is actually a youngster
of Her Majesty's,

1424
01:07:53,537 --> 01:07:55,305
called Rapid Flight.

1425
01:07:55,372 --> 01:07:57,807
He's... They're all homebred.

1426
01:07:57,874 --> 01:08:00,777
And he's a rather sweet horse.

1427
01:08:00,844 --> 01:08:04,881
He won the other day and he's
due to run again this weekend,

1428
01:08:04,948 --> 01:08:06,883
if he doesn't eat the door.

1429
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:08,818
But he's just a nice youngster,

1430
01:08:08,885 --> 01:08:12,389
his life's in front of him,
so who knows?

1431
01:08:12,456 --> 01:08:14,724
And what is
the breakfast of champions?

1432
01:08:15,425 --> 01:08:16,926
Well, this morning he... What?

1433
01:08:16,993 --> 01:08:18,695
- What he's actually had to eat?
- Yes.

1434
01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:21,931
He's had a bowl of nuts,
he's had some hay,

1435
01:08:21,998 --> 01:08:23,500
he's been out,

1436
01:08:23,567 --> 01:08:25,369
he's been actually
jumping this morning.

1437
01:08:26,336 --> 01:08:27,804
Wow, so beautiful.

1438
01:08:27,871 --> 01:08:29,273
So, Rapid Flight.

1439
01:08:29,339 --> 01:08:31,040
He's called Rapid Flight.

1440
01:08:31,107 --> 01:08:34,144
I don't know how rapid he is,
but he won the other day

1441
01:08:34,211 --> 01:08:36,079
and I hope you
win again this weekend.

1442
01:08:42,819 --> 01:08:44,754
Have you ever been to the Proms?

1443
01:08:44,821 --> 01:08:46,089
I haven't, no.

1444
01:08:48,091 --> 01:08:51,060
I'm not very British, am I?

1445
01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:58,902
♪♪♪

1446
01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:00,570
Could I tempt you
with a programme, sir?

1447
01:09:00,637 --> 01:09:02,239
Oh my goodness me,
yes of course.

1448
01:09:02,306 --> 01:09:05,275
Yes, it's £5 and it goes
to support our charities

1449
01:09:05,342 --> 01:09:07,411
and we've just surpassed
a million pounds

1450
01:09:07,477 --> 01:09:08,578
raised for charity.

1451
01:09:09,413 --> 01:09:11,848
I'm Susie Gregson,
founder and Chief Executive

1452
01:09:11,915 --> 01:09:13,383
of Proms at St Jude's.

1453
01:09:13,450 --> 01:09:15,018
I think you're missing

1454
01:09:15,084 --> 01:09:17,354
three very important letters
there, Susie.

1455
01:09:18,422 --> 01:09:23,092
MBE. I was awarded an MBE
by Her Majesty, the Queen.

1456
01:09:23,159 --> 01:09:26,763
I was awarded it
for services to the community.

1457
01:09:26,830 --> 01:09:28,898
Pretty much for founding
Proms at St Jude's

1458
01:09:28,965 --> 01:09:30,867
and for keeping it
going for so many years.

1459
01:09:30,934 --> 01:09:35,839
♪♪♪

1460
01:09:35,905 --> 01:09:38,475
Proms was set up
almost 30 years ago.

1461
01:09:38,542 --> 01:09:40,277
I don't think
any of us anticipated

1462
01:09:40,344 --> 01:09:41,978
that it would last
as long as it did

1463
01:09:42,045 --> 01:09:43,580
and be as much loved as it is.

1464
01:09:43,647 --> 01:09:46,450
By pulling together,
we've become a community

1465
01:09:46,516 --> 01:09:48,218
and over the years,

1466
01:09:48,285 --> 01:09:50,095
we've consistently
raised money for good causes.

1467
01:09:50,119 --> 01:09:53,323
It's almost entirely
run by volunteers of all ages.

1468
01:09:54,157 --> 01:09:55,825
Proms isn't a new concept.

1469
01:09:55,892 --> 01:09:58,495
It started, I think,
in the mid-18th century

1470
01:09:58,562 --> 01:10:00,797
and it started
with pleasure gardens,

1471
01:10:00,864 --> 01:10:04,534
where people could stroll around
while musicians played.

1472
01:10:05,735 --> 01:10:07,704
Well, tonight we've got
a wonderful concert

1473
01:10:07,771 --> 01:10:10,407
with Braimah
and Konya Kanneh-Mason.

1474
01:10:10,474 --> 01:10:13,076
The Kanneh-Masons will
be playing Elgar's Sospiri

1475
01:10:13,142 --> 01:10:14,878
and Elgar, of course,

1476
01:10:14,944 --> 01:10:16,822
was actually living in
Hampstead when he wrote it.

1477
01:10:16,846 --> 01:10:19,048
So really, we're playing it
on his doorstep.

1478
01:10:19,649 --> 01:10:24,588
♪♪♪

1479
01:10:45,509 --> 01:10:47,677
It was special to play a piece

1480
01:10:47,744 --> 01:10:50,179
in Hampstead knowing
that it was written so close

1481
01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:52,115
to where we were performing.

1482
01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:55,652
We both live in West Hampstead.

1483
01:10:55,719 --> 01:10:58,322
It was a really lovely
atmosphere for us to play in.

1484
01:10:59,856 --> 01:11:01,658
If Elgar was sat
in the audience,

1485
01:11:01,725 --> 01:11:04,060
I would love
to speak to him afterwards

1486
01:11:04,127 --> 01:11:05,862
and ask how he thinks we did

1487
01:11:05,929 --> 01:11:07,797
and what he thinks
we should do or change.

1488
01:11:09,699 --> 01:11:11,267
I grew up with music
around the house.

1489
01:11:11,335 --> 01:11:13,102
It was always there,

1490
01:11:13,169 --> 01:11:15,147
so I think that's how I
naturally gravitated towards it,

1491
01:11:15,171 --> 01:11:17,441
because then I was
just immersed in music

1492
01:11:17,507 --> 01:11:18,942
from a very early age.

1493
01:11:21,578 --> 01:11:23,680
We were extremely lucky

1494
01:11:23,747 --> 01:11:26,716
to have parents
who grew up loving music.

1495
01:11:26,783 --> 01:11:29,886
They really believed
that it was an essential part

1496
01:11:29,953 --> 01:11:34,223
of the education, and we've
just been really, really lucky

1497
01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:36,860
to have had
incredible opportunities

1498
01:11:36,926 --> 01:11:40,163
and an amazing support network.

1499
01:11:42,265 --> 01:11:47,036
♪♪♪

1500
01:12:01,651 --> 01:12:03,387
My name is Dylan Kawende.

1501
01:12:03,453 --> 01:12:06,055
I'm the British-born son
of Congolese Rwandan refugees.

1502
01:12:06,122 --> 01:12:09,125
I set up
the #GetDyl2Cambridge campaign

1503
01:12:09,192 --> 01:12:11,828
to pursue my dream
of becoming a lawyer.

1504
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:16,600
So my dad received an offer to
study at Cambridge University,

1505
01:12:16,666 --> 01:12:18,502
but he couldn't
take up the place

1506
01:12:18,568 --> 01:12:20,336
because he didn't
have the funding.

1507
01:12:20,404 --> 01:12:24,173
Back in the '90s,
my parents migrated to the UK

1508
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,776
during a time
of chaos and disorder.

1509
01:12:26,843 --> 01:12:30,914
They always dreamed
of a better future for myself

1510
01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:33,783
and my four siblings.
So when they came over here,

1511
01:12:33,850 --> 01:12:36,953
the aspiration was that
we would all benefit society.

1512
01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:39,889
And that has helped me
to forge my own path

1513
01:12:39,956 --> 01:12:42,426
and despite
the financial hurdles

1514
01:12:42,492 --> 01:12:44,093
of studying law at
Cambridge University,

1515
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,396
I've been able
to pursue my dream.

1516
01:12:46,463 --> 01:12:48,598
Lots of people will
recognise my campaign,

1517
01:12:48,665 --> 01:12:50,600
my #GetDyl2Cambridge campaign.

1518
01:12:50,667 --> 01:12:52,902
An arduous effort,
but definitely worth it

1519
01:12:52,969 --> 01:12:55,405
and I wouldn't have
had all these resources

1520
01:12:55,472 --> 01:12:57,306
if not for
the people who believed in me.

1521
01:12:57,373 --> 01:13:00,410
It's been an amazing journey,
an amazing experience.

1522
01:13:08,585 --> 01:13:13,523
There is still that
feeling in rural England.

1523
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:16,726
There's something
rather lovely about it.

1524
01:13:18,628 --> 01:13:23,733
I love going into old churches
in little villages

1525
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:30,173
and sensing the history and
the sense of peace and quiet.

1526
01:13:31,374 --> 01:13:33,977
I love going to Grantchester

1527
01:13:34,043 --> 01:13:37,681
and having cream tea
in the orchard tea rooms.

1528
01:13:38,815 --> 01:13:41,985
Is that the whole
of modern Britain?

1529
01:13:42,051 --> 01:13:45,221
No, of course not.
But it's part of the whole.

1530
01:13:46,289 --> 01:13:50,694
Chocolate box,
Christmas card, the village.

1531
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,529
I'm not a villager,

1532
01:13:52,596 --> 01:13:54,864
I'm a provincial urban lad,

1533
01:13:54,931 --> 01:13:56,900
so I get much more sentimental

1534
01:13:56,966 --> 01:14:00,036
about the paintings
of L.S. Lowry.

1535
01:14:00,103 --> 01:14:05,675
Lowry painted the now demolished
cityscapes of the North.

1536
01:14:05,742 --> 01:14:07,711
The mean little houses
and streets

1537
01:14:07,777 --> 01:14:10,514
and the big overpowering
factories and churches.

1538
01:14:10,580 --> 01:14:12,081
Smoke in the air.

1539
01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:15,619
Damp. Dirty.

1540
01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:19,623
Well, the North
was a bit like that

1541
01:14:19,689 --> 01:14:23,392
when I was growing up and I can
get sentimental about that,

1542
01:14:23,459 --> 01:14:24,961
rather than...

1543
01:14:27,196 --> 01:14:30,500
anything down at Grantchester
with all those posh people.

1544
01:14:35,038 --> 01:14:36,682
You know, the mountains
of the Lake District,

1545
01:14:36,706 --> 01:14:38,675
the mountains
of the Highlands of Scotland,

1546
01:14:38,742 --> 01:14:41,745
they are some of the oldest
landmasses in the world.

1547
01:14:41,811 --> 01:14:45,549
The Himalayas, the tall
mountains these days are new,

1548
01:14:45,615 --> 01:14:47,016
they've just arrived.

1549
01:14:48,417 --> 01:14:52,889
The Pennines have been
here since time immemorial

1550
01:14:52,956 --> 01:14:55,925
and I get sentimental
about that.

1551
01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:58,962
If I am trying to think
what it is to be British

1552
01:14:59,028 --> 01:15:02,766
is to have lived in
the variable landscapes.

1553
01:15:02,832 --> 01:15:06,369
Which people down South
here on this little island,

1554
01:15:06,435 --> 01:15:09,072
people who live in London,
they don't know about mountains.

1555
01:15:09,138 --> 01:15:11,374
There aren't any mountains here,
there're a few hills.

1556
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:13,176
No mountains.

1557
01:15:18,347 --> 01:15:21,350
I don't think there's
a direct link between us

1558
01:15:21,417 --> 01:15:25,121
today living in London and the
London where Shakespeare lived.

1559
01:15:25,188 --> 01:15:27,791
I mean that's long, long ago
and it was very, very different.

1560
01:15:27,857 --> 01:15:31,060
Very violent,
horrible place, actually.

1561
01:15:31,127 --> 01:15:33,963
Cruelty on the streets.

1562
01:15:34,030 --> 01:15:35,865
Deaths in the air.

1563
01:15:35,932 --> 01:15:38,134
Short lives.

1564
01:15:38,201 --> 01:15:40,937
Dirty. Disease-ridden.

1565
01:15:41,004 --> 01:15:42,872
Mmm-mmm.

1566
01:15:48,177 --> 01:15:50,146
You're
at Bekonscot Model Village,

1567
01:15:50,213 --> 01:15:52,281
the oldest model village
in the world.

1568
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,656
This is where we got
the quirky names.

1569
01:15:59,723 --> 01:16:03,593
The fruiter is,
You Are A Peach, Heavenly Soles

1570
01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:07,463
and this is the smallest
Marks, Spencers in the world.

1571
01:16:07,530 --> 01:16:09,132
What did they sell in the '30s?

1572
01:16:09,198 --> 01:16:10,967
And they sent us
all the information.

1573
01:16:11,034 --> 01:16:14,938
And basically they just
sold hats, stockings, shoes,

1574
01:16:15,004 --> 01:16:16,773
gloves and scarves.

1575
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,375
Things like that.
Not like they do today.

1576
01:16:22,011 --> 01:16:26,115
This is a little memorial to
our founder, Roland Callingham.

1577
01:16:26,182 --> 01:16:28,718
People think he's buried there,
but he's not.

1578
01:16:29,986 --> 01:16:32,789
Why do you think
the 1930s was chosen

1579
01:16:32,856 --> 01:16:34,457
as the period?

1580
01:16:34,523 --> 01:16:36,359
I think it was
the time was just about right,

1581
01:16:36,425 --> 01:16:39,528
because then after that,
everything sort of changed.

1582
01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,798
I think we got it just right.

1583
01:16:41,865 --> 01:16:44,033
So it was
almost like an idyllic,

1584
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:45,669
quintessentially British time?

1585
01:16:45,735 --> 01:16:48,504
Oh, I think so.
No doubt about that. Yes.

1586
01:16:48,571 --> 01:16:50,974
Yes, it was. It was.

1587
01:16:54,210 --> 01:16:56,045
That is English.

1588
01:16:56,112 --> 01:16:59,716
Even now you go out and about
on a Saturday and Sunday,

1589
01:16:59,783 --> 01:17:01,117
they're playing cricket.

1590
01:17:09,926 --> 01:17:13,396
One thing we can't
get to scale are the fish.

1591
01:17:13,462 --> 01:17:17,934
These are enormous,
mutant whales in scale, so yes.

1592
01:17:20,937 --> 01:17:23,239
Do you think
the trains run on time here?

1593
01:17:23,306 --> 01:17:25,074
Oh, definitely.

1594
01:17:25,141 --> 01:17:28,111
No leaves on the line
or anything like that, no.

1595
01:17:29,746 --> 01:17:30,980
Hiya.

1596
01:17:34,217 --> 01:17:36,686
Why are
Pixar movies so successful?

1597
01:17:36,753 --> 01:17:39,889
Because Pixar works for kids
and it works for adults.

1598
01:17:39,956 --> 01:17:43,026
Maybe that's the secret
success formula for Bekonscot.

1599
01:17:43,092 --> 01:17:44,928
Yes, I think it is, yes.

1600
01:17:44,994 --> 01:17:47,530
You come as a child,
you bring your children,

1601
01:17:47,596 --> 01:17:51,000
you then bring the grandchildren
and it starts all over again.

1602
01:17:53,002 --> 01:17:56,940
And you've got Ascot Racecourse,
as it was in the 1930s.

1603
01:17:57,006 --> 01:17:59,475
One of our model makers
who got the MBE,

1604
01:17:59,542 --> 01:18:00,944
he went up to meet the Queen.

1605
01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:02,712
He actually spoke to the Queen

1606
01:18:02,779 --> 01:18:06,315
for it seems a lot longer
than everyone else,

1607
01:18:06,382 --> 01:18:09,485
because she said, "Oh,
I came such and such a year."

1608
01:18:09,552 --> 01:18:11,630
And he said, "Excuse me, Mom,
you came in," whatever.

1609
01:18:11,654 --> 01:18:12,956
And they chatted, you know.

1610
01:18:13,022 --> 01:18:14,423
If it'd been anyone else,

1611
01:18:14,490 --> 01:18:16,225
it'd been off
with his head, you know.

1612
01:18:16,292 --> 01:18:22,165
Her Majesty came with
Queen Mary in '34 and '39.

1613
01:18:22,231 --> 01:18:26,335
The Royal Family has decided
that it will define itself

1614
01:18:26,402 --> 01:18:30,706
through its theatrical
presentation of itself.

1615
01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:33,877
And a parade, a royal parade,

1616
01:18:33,943 --> 01:18:37,513
is something quite remarkable
and it's very British.

1617
01:18:39,448 --> 01:18:42,718
This is the first time
we've had an opportunity

1618
01:18:42,786 --> 01:18:45,588
to celebrate a Platinum Jubilee.

1619
01:18:45,654 --> 01:18:48,391
The first time
in all our history

1620
01:18:48,457 --> 01:18:51,560
that somebody should be
on the throne for 70 years.

1621
01:18:51,627 --> 01:18:54,430
How fantastic is that?

1622
01:18:54,497 --> 01:18:57,100
Without a doubt,
over the last few years,

1623
01:18:57,166 --> 01:19:01,104
the most extraordinary person,
not just who is British,

1624
01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:03,206
is of course,
Her Majesty the Queen.

1625
01:19:03,272 --> 01:19:05,108
What an amazing woman.

1626
01:19:05,174 --> 01:19:08,044
Well, she means the glue
that holds the nation together.

1627
01:19:08,111 --> 01:19:09,645
Because if you look back,

1628
01:19:09,712 --> 01:19:11,547
she's been one
of the most effective

1629
01:19:11,614 --> 01:19:13,549
and best monarchs
we've ever had.

1630
01:19:13,616 --> 01:19:16,886
The Queen means everything.
She's iconic.

1631
01:19:16,953 --> 01:19:19,856
She is an incredible role model.

1632
01:19:19,923 --> 01:19:21,891
She's been
a fantastic public servant.

1633
01:19:21,958 --> 01:19:24,994
The sport of kings, it has to
be renamed the sport of queens.

1634
01:19:25,061 --> 01:19:26,996
She's a star.
Like you know,

1635
01:19:27,063 --> 01:19:30,199
Queen is someone
everyone has to look up to.

1636
01:19:30,266 --> 01:19:31,700
Oh, I love the Queen.

1637
01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:33,269
We'll raise
a glass to the Queen.

1638
01:19:33,336 --> 01:19:35,338
Yeah, without
the Queen being here,

1639
01:19:35,404 --> 01:19:36,806
this country
wouldn't be what it is.

1640
01:19:36,873 --> 01:19:38,374
Exactly.

1641
01:19:38,441 --> 01:19:39,708
But the Royal Family,

1642
01:19:39,775 --> 01:19:41,177
aren't they German in origin?

1643
01:19:41,244 --> 01:19:42,378
We don't... Well...

1644
01:19:42,445 --> 01:19:43,813
We don't look at them like that.

1645
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,348
No. No.

1646
01:19:45,414 --> 01:19:47,116
They've become British,

1647
01:19:47,183 --> 01:19:48,828
I'm not sure whether
one would call them English.

1648
01:19:48,852 --> 01:19:50,329
Oh, they're English,
they're not German,

1649
01:19:50,353 --> 01:19:52,021
they are Anglo-Saxon.

1650
01:19:52,088 --> 01:19:53,857
Well, where did
the Anglo-Saxons come from?

1651
01:19:53,923 --> 01:19:56,993
The reason they
are very British,

1652
01:19:57,060 --> 01:19:59,728
is that they are very British.

1653
01:20:01,164 --> 01:20:03,099
They're hugely valued
for what they offer

1654
01:20:03,166 --> 01:20:04,868
and for what they represent.

1655
01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:09,738
The monarch has
to be apolitical.

1656
01:20:09,805 --> 01:20:12,608
But it doesn't
stop us, the world,

1657
01:20:12,675 --> 01:20:15,444
the papers analysing, perhaps,

1658
01:20:15,511 --> 01:20:20,249
some moments that seem
slightly more provocative.

1659
01:20:20,316 --> 01:20:23,552
Her most marked
sartorial choices,

1660
01:20:23,619 --> 01:20:26,956
was at the State Opening
of Parliament in 2017.

1661
01:20:27,023 --> 01:20:31,160
She came in steadfast
in a beautiful mid-blue suit,

1662
01:20:31,227 --> 01:20:33,396
matching hat with a perhaps

1663
01:20:33,462 --> 01:20:36,732
not too subtle
circular formation

1664
01:20:36,799 --> 01:20:40,203
of star-like yellow flowers,
resembling the European flag.

1665
01:20:40,269 --> 01:20:42,438
Part of me thinks if
she was allowed to talk,

1666
01:20:42,505 --> 01:20:44,440
she would be disappointed

1667
01:20:44,507 --> 01:20:47,176
that we were
breaking our ties with Europe,

1668
01:20:47,243 --> 01:20:50,346
but only she knows
and maybe her dresser.

1669
01:20:50,413 --> 01:20:56,285
♪♪♪

1670
01:21:06,795 --> 01:21:08,664
I was 20-years-old.

1671
01:21:08,731 --> 01:21:11,734
I remember all the people
in the street, myself included,

1672
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,636
to see the car and the Queen.

1673
01:21:13,702 --> 01:21:15,504
Everybody was amazed by that.

1674
01:21:15,571 --> 01:21:17,406
That was an amazing day.

1675
01:21:17,473 --> 01:21:19,008
So you saw the Queen go by?

1676
01:21:19,075 --> 01:21:20,743
Absolutely.

1677
01:21:20,809 --> 01:21:22,111
Were there are George's crosses

1678
01:21:22,178 --> 01:21:23,312
on the streets then?

1679
01:21:23,379 --> 01:21:24,780
Oh, that's a good question.

1680
01:21:24,847 --> 01:21:27,083
I don't remember that.

1681
01:21:27,150 --> 01:21:30,653
As a country, we're pretty
good at friendly appropriation

1682
01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:32,989
of other people's property.

1683
01:21:33,056 --> 01:21:34,757
I mean, St. George,

1684
01:21:34,823 --> 01:21:36,601
I don't think St. George
was actually an Englishman.

1685
01:21:36,625 --> 01:21:38,594
I don't know too much about him.

1686
01:21:38,661 --> 01:21:40,997
I'm pretty sure he is the saint,

1687
01:21:41,064 --> 01:21:44,467
the personification of Britain.

1688
01:21:44,533 --> 01:21:46,502
So, yeah.

1689
01:21:46,569 --> 01:21:48,938
The Genoese in
the north of Italy,

1690
01:21:49,005 --> 01:21:52,508
their state flag
was the white and red flag

1691
01:21:52,575 --> 01:21:54,978
that we know is
the English flag.

1692
01:21:55,044 --> 01:21:56,912
From a footballer perspective,

1693
01:21:56,980 --> 01:21:59,148
you know, we look at that
flag with real pride

1694
01:21:59,215 --> 01:22:00,950
and as something to fight for

1695
01:22:01,017 --> 01:22:02,995
and as something that we
want to kind of take across

1696
01:22:03,019 --> 01:22:04,520
and do the best we could.

1697
01:22:04,587 --> 01:22:06,355
So I always had
a lot of love and pride

1698
01:22:06,422 --> 01:22:07,790
towards St George's Cross.

1699
01:22:08,791 --> 01:22:11,194
I'm very pleased to have
a conversation with you guys,

1700
01:22:11,260 --> 01:22:12,962
because you asked
me a good question.

1701
01:22:13,029 --> 01:22:15,698
Why there are very
little Italian flag here

1702
01:22:15,764 --> 01:22:17,833
and there is
also St George flag?

1703
01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:21,337
St George's flag was
adopted in Genoa immediately

1704
01:22:21,404 --> 01:22:23,872
after the first crusade.

1705
01:22:23,939 --> 01:22:27,476
The King of England
decided to ask the permission

1706
01:22:27,543 --> 01:22:29,912
to the Genoa Republic
to use the Genoa flag

1707
01:22:29,979 --> 01:22:33,016
in order to be safe
cruising in Mediterranean area.

1708
01:22:33,082 --> 01:22:36,352
Our so-called English flag,

1709
01:22:36,419 --> 01:22:38,354
we were actually
shelling out the reddies

1710
01:22:38,421 --> 01:22:39,989
year by year saying,

1711
01:22:40,056 --> 01:22:41,856
"Hello Genoa, sorry,
we owe you a bit of money

1712
01:22:41,890 --> 01:22:43,892
"for our national flag,
here you are, darling."

1713
01:22:43,959 --> 01:22:48,497
I was not able to understand
why they stopped in 1599.

1714
01:22:48,564 --> 01:22:50,966
Our King or Queen said,
"I think we've had enough

1715
01:22:51,034 --> 01:22:53,802
"of paying out for this Genoese
flag and I like the flag,

1716
01:22:53,869 --> 01:22:54,970
"let's keep it."

1717
01:22:55,038 --> 01:22:57,573
So this is really our flag.

1718
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,843
We wrote down a letter to the
Queen, to Buckingham Palace.

1719
01:23:00,909 --> 01:23:03,812
We received a very good letter
back from Buckingham Palace,

1720
01:23:03,879 --> 01:23:06,149
I'm very proud
of that, saying, "Big thanks."

1721
01:23:06,215 --> 01:23:09,752
Maybe one day with all
the money coming from the flag,

1722
01:23:09,818 --> 01:23:12,188
we may reconstruct
the Republic of Genoa.

1723
01:23:12,255 --> 01:23:13,722
That could be a good idea.

1724
01:23:13,789 --> 01:23:15,724
Don't say here,
because this is illegal,

1725
01:23:15,791 --> 01:23:18,794
so I'm not going to say that.
Okay.

1726
01:23:18,861 --> 01:23:22,098
We need to have a conversation
about the St George flag.

1727
01:23:22,165 --> 01:23:24,767
We love it
and I'm sure you guys love too.

1728
01:23:24,833 --> 01:23:27,736
We can decide that April 23rd

1729
01:23:27,803 --> 01:23:30,239
we should have
a celebration all together.

1730
01:23:30,306 --> 01:23:32,908
People from England
and people from Genoa.

1731
01:23:34,143 --> 01:23:36,379
I, before
starting this documentary,

1732
01:23:36,445 --> 01:23:38,847
thought that
the St George's flag

1733
01:23:38,914 --> 01:23:41,517
is a quintessentially
English flag,

1734
01:23:41,584 --> 01:23:43,086
but filming this documentary,

1735
01:23:43,152 --> 01:23:45,554
we discovered that
the English stole it

1736
01:23:45,621 --> 01:23:48,291
from the Italians,
from the Genoese.

1737
01:23:48,357 --> 01:23:51,427
Well, to be honest,
it doesn't really surprise me.

1738
01:23:51,494 --> 01:23:57,066
We're quite
a thievery nation, I suppose.

1739
01:23:57,133 --> 01:23:58,867
Is that so?

1740
01:23:58,934 --> 01:24:01,104
I'm not surprised
to learn that as a story.

1741
01:24:01,170 --> 01:24:03,406
What you've just told me
is all brand new information,

1742
01:24:03,472 --> 01:24:05,040
but very interesting
that maybe comes up

1743
01:24:05,108 --> 01:24:06,742
in a quiz one day I might use.

1744
01:24:09,712 --> 01:24:11,414
What is actually British?

1745
01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:14,817
Think about it,
fish and chips isn't, tea isn't.

1746
01:24:14,883 --> 01:24:18,521
A cup of tea,
"Cuppa cha, sir, cuppa cha."

1747
01:24:18,587 --> 01:24:20,423
Lovely Cockney, "Cuppa cha."

1748
01:24:20,489 --> 01:24:22,358
It's not
a Cockney word at all, "cha."

1749
01:24:22,425 --> 01:24:25,461
"Cha" is
a Mandarin Chinese word.

1750
01:24:25,528 --> 01:24:27,130
Tea is from China.

1751
01:24:27,196 --> 01:24:29,132
Yes so, I think that's something

1752
01:24:29,198 --> 01:24:32,468
to link the two cultures
together.

1753
01:24:32,535 --> 01:24:34,970
Three times
the number of British people

1754
01:24:35,037 --> 01:24:37,640
have an Indian dish every week.

1755
01:24:37,706 --> 01:24:40,976
Wow, that's great, okay.

1756
01:24:41,043 --> 01:24:43,679
Which dish in Indian,
like, what do they like?

1757
01:24:43,746 --> 01:24:45,848
They say chicken tikka masala.

1758
01:24:45,914 --> 01:24:48,083
Wow, chicken tikka masala, nice.

1759
01:24:48,151 --> 01:24:50,819
That's my favourite too.

1760
01:24:50,886 --> 01:24:53,088
Juana, what's the national dish?

1761
01:24:53,156 --> 01:24:55,791
Well, we definitely at
home still have fish and chips

1762
01:24:55,858 --> 01:24:58,294
every Friday evening from
the local fish and chip shop.

1763
01:24:58,361 --> 01:25:00,296
Fish and chips.

1764
01:25:00,363 --> 01:25:04,833
That is the quintessential
English dish.

1765
01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:08,537
Thank you very much to those
Jewish immigrants from Europe,

1766
01:25:08,604 --> 01:25:11,340
who brought the idea
of fried fish with them.

1767
01:25:11,407 --> 01:25:14,910
Beef, of course,
is a French word, boeuf.

1768
01:25:14,977 --> 01:25:17,913
Mutton and lamb
comes from the Normans.

1769
01:25:17,980 --> 01:25:20,483
Oh and thank you
very much to the Vikings,

1770
01:25:20,549 --> 01:25:22,050
because they brought this idea

1771
01:25:22,117 --> 01:25:24,253
of smoking fish
and preserving fish,

1772
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,523
so smoked salmon
and smoked haddock and kippers.

1773
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:29,425
Thank you very
much to the Vikings.

1774
01:25:29,492 --> 01:25:34,530
Pork, not pig, pork.

1775
01:25:34,597 --> 01:25:38,367
Foreign word. Because the French
were better cooks.

1776
01:25:38,434 --> 01:25:40,068
That's the reason.

1777
01:25:40,135 --> 01:25:42,738
Imagine the UK without
any Caribbean influence.

1778
01:25:42,805 --> 01:25:45,474
Rum punch,
jerk chicken, Red Stripe,

1779
01:25:45,541 --> 01:25:49,077
like, a British person,
one of their favourite beers

1780
01:25:49,144 --> 01:25:51,214
is generally a Red Stripe,
everyone knows it.

1781
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,748
Beer. English bitter beer,

1782
01:25:52,815 --> 01:25:54,317
one of the most famous
in the world.

1783
01:25:54,383 --> 01:25:55,751
That's not English.

1784
01:25:55,818 --> 01:25:57,686
500 years ago,
we didn't have any hops.

1785
01:25:57,753 --> 01:25:59,688
They came from the Netherlands,

1786
01:25:59,755 --> 01:26:02,258
from what is now
Belgium and Holland.

1787
01:26:02,325 --> 01:26:03,526
They had hops.

1788
01:26:03,592 --> 01:26:05,861
They showed us how to make beer.

1789
01:26:05,928 --> 01:26:08,331
Cider, cider,
English cider's lovely.

1790
01:26:08,397 --> 01:26:09,932
Thank you, the Normans.

1791
01:26:09,998 --> 01:26:11,600
Thank you,
William the Conqueror,

1792
01:26:11,667 --> 01:26:13,369
for bringing
all your apples over

1793
01:26:13,436 --> 01:26:15,070
and showing us
how to make cider.

1794
01:26:15,137 --> 01:26:19,442
Whiskey. Now,
that'll be British. Would it?

1795
01:26:19,508 --> 01:26:21,377
Why don't you ask the Irish?

1796
01:26:21,444 --> 01:26:26,582
Because it's probably
the Irish who invented whiskey.

1797
01:26:27,683 --> 01:26:32,255
Gin. Now gin, the quintessential
English drink.

1798
01:26:32,321 --> 01:26:33,456
No, it isn't.

1799
01:26:33,522 --> 01:26:35,324
We got the idea from Holland

1800
01:26:35,391 --> 01:26:38,894
and they got the idea
from North Africa via Italy.

1801
01:26:38,961 --> 01:26:40,329
Not English at all.

1802
01:26:41,464 --> 01:26:44,767
Where did the sausage come from?
The British sausage.

1803
01:26:44,833 --> 01:26:47,303
You can't get those abroad.

1804
01:26:47,370 --> 01:26:49,238
And there's nothing like one.

1805
01:26:49,305 --> 01:26:50,973
A British sausage.

1806
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,442
Superior to any sausage
I've ever had

1807
01:26:53,509 --> 01:26:55,177
anywhere else in the world.

1808
01:26:56,279 --> 01:26:59,582
Now, is that not
quintessentially British?

1809
01:26:59,648 --> 01:27:04,287
♪♪♪

1810
01:27:04,353 --> 01:27:06,489
Who are really
English is very hard to say,

1811
01:27:06,555 --> 01:27:08,324
really, if you
look at the history.

1812
01:27:08,391 --> 01:27:10,335
The more you look back,
the more interesting it gets

1813
01:27:10,359 --> 01:27:12,961
and the more different peoples
come into the equation.

1814
01:27:13,028 --> 01:27:15,764
It's so fascinating to
see one wave of immigrants

1815
01:27:15,831 --> 01:27:17,300
after another so...

1816
01:27:17,366 --> 01:27:19,268
And it's still
continuing of course.

1817
01:27:19,335 --> 01:27:24,540
We've had to face our, you know,
all our phobias, haven't we?

1818
01:27:24,607 --> 01:27:28,677
Our racisms and our fears and
our anxieties about the other,

1819
01:27:28,744 --> 01:27:30,279
but we're all the other.

1820
01:27:30,346 --> 01:27:32,214
We are the other.
Of course, we're mongrels.

1821
01:27:32,281 --> 01:27:34,450
That's what's so
absolutely wonderful.

1822
01:27:34,517 --> 01:27:37,553
This has, in some ways,

1823
01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:40,222
always been
a multicultural society.

1824
01:27:40,289 --> 01:27:42,157
It's more evident now,

1825
01:27:42,224 --> 01:27:44,360
because of obviously
the end of empire

1826
01:27:44,427 --> 01:27:47,029
and the whole impact
of a Commonwealth

1827
01:27:47,095 --> 01:27:48,664
and all of those things.

1828
01:27:48,731 --> 01:27:50,599
It's been very
interesting to see

1829
01:27:50,666 --> 01:27:53,636
how many people have been
very keen to live in Britain.

1830
01:27:53,702 --> 01:27:57,306
Is it just about there
being a national health system

1831
01:27:57,373 --> 01:28:00,476
and there being
a social security system,

1832
01:28:00,543 --> 01:28:02,878
of a kind that
you certainly don't get

1833
01:28:02,945 --> 01:28:04,480
in the United States?

1834
01:28:04,547 --> 01:28:06,281
No, it's about more than that.

1835
01:28:06,349 --> 01:28:09,385
It's about
people being attracted

1836
01:28:09,452 --> 01:28:14,390
to certain assumptions
about the way we live.

1837
01:28:16,258 --> 01:28:18,160
I come...
My family come from Ireland.

1838
01:28:18,226 --> 01:28:22,831
We know all about wanting
to be accepted as foreigners

1839
01:28:22,898 --> 01:28:24,767
in this country.

1840
01:28:24,833 --> 01:28:28,371
It takes a while,
but we do integrate,

1841
01:28:28,437 --> 01:28:31,073
we do welcome people
from abroad.

1842
01:28:31,139 --> 01:28:32,541
We always have.

1843
01:28:32,608 --> 01:28:34,176
Churchill?

1844
01:28:34,242 --> 01:28:36,679
- He was half American.
- Hm?

1845
01:28:36,745 --> 01:28:39,348
He was half...
His mother was American.

1846
01:28:39,415 --> 01:28:41,917
Well, maybe that's
quintessentially British

1847
01:28:41,984 --> 01:28:43,786
that in fact
you're not local at all,

1848
01:28:43,852 --> 01:28:48,290
you're an invader
or an immigrant

1849
01:28:48,357 --> 01:28:50,759
or started from
somewhere else, why not?

1850
01:28:52,327 --> 01:28:56,198
I love the idea of this country
being multiracial,

1851
01:28:56,264 --> 01:28:58,401
which it gloriously is.

1852
01:28:58,467 --> 01:29:00,503
In an ideal world,
I like the sense

1853
01:29:00,569 --> 01:29:02,337
that anybody could
consider themselves to...

1854
01:29:02,405 --> 01:29:04,673
call Britain home,
because I think that its...

1855
01:29:04,740 --> 01:29:11,179
At its best when it celebrates
how cosmopolitan it is.

1856
01:29:11,246 --> 01:29:14,049
I get frustrated
when British people think

1857
01:29:14,116 --> 01:29:18,286
we're not inclusive and that
we're not all embracing,

1858
01:29:18,353 --> 01:29:21,256
because from what I've seen
from my travels, is that we are.

1859
01:29:21,323 --> 01:29:22,991
We really are.

1860
01:29:23,058 --> 01:29:24,493
Your surname is Petrucci.

1861
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,128
Mm-hm.

1862
01:29:26,194 --> 01:29:27,630
Is that an English surname?

1863
01:29:27,696 --> 01:29:29,765
It's Italian. Sicilian.
My Grandad.

1864
01:29:29,832 --> 01:29:34,937
Launer is
a truly British company

1865
01:29:35,003 --> 01:29:36,939
and I'm very proud of the fact,

1866
01:29:37,005 --> 01:29:41,910
because of course my background
was originally from Germany.

1867
01:29:41,977 --> 01:29:46,081
Jacob Dege came
over from Germany in 1855.

1868
01:29:46,148 --> 01:29:50,653
My great-great-grandfather
was also a tailor in London.

1869
01:29:50,719 --> 01:29:54,457
His son and Mr. Dege's,
or now it's pronounced Dege,

1870
01:29:54,523 --> 01:29:56,725
their two sons got on very well,

1871
01:29:56,792 --> 01:29:59,327
so they actually
started up on their own.

1872
01:29:59,394 --> 01:30:02,631
Culturally, I think
because of the richness

1873
01:30:02,698 --> 01:30:06,234
of people's experiences
from the Caribbean, from India,

1874
01:30:06,301 --> 01:30:09,905
from Africa, from Europe
obviously makes it far richer

1875
01:30:09,972 --> 01:30:12,107
and there is really
something for everyone.

1876
01:30:13,308 --> 01:30:16,479
Oh, we are in
Chinatown, phenomenonal.

1877
01:30:16,545 --> 01:30:18,981
Amazing place, yes.

1878
01:30:19,047 --> 01:30:21,917
It's a good place to mix
with British culture

1879
01:30:21,984 --> 01:30:24,720
and international
culture and Oriental,

1880
01:30:24,787 --> 01:30:26,555
Chinese culture as well.

1881
01:30:26,622 --> 01:30:28,524
There's so many
Indians over here

1882
01:30:28,591 --> 01:30:30,859
and I don't feel
like I'm an outsider.

1883
01:30:30,926 --> 01:30:32,728
I feel like
I belong to this place.

1884
01:30:32,795 --> 01:30:36,298
British Asians are definitely
a huge part of Britain

1885
01:30:36,364 --> 01:30:39,868
with our cuisines, with
our commerce, with our cricket.

1886
01:30:39,935 --> 01:30:43,005
There are a lot
of dishes in our culture

1887
01:30:43,071 --> 01:30:45,508
to have worth celebrating that.

1888
01:30:45,574 --> 01:30:48,043
When I was retraining my career

1889
01:30:48,110 --> 01:30:50,021
in horticulture, Leonardslee
was kind of spoken of

1890
01:30:50,045 --> 01:30:52,414
in hushed terms then,
it was the lost hidden gem,

1891
01:30:52,481 --> 01:30:54,650
it was shut for, you know,
eight to ten years.

1892
01:30:54,717 --> 01:30:56,885
Ironically,
for a quintessentially English

1893
01:30:56,952 --> 01:30:58,554
woodland garden,

1894
01:30:58,621 --> 01:31:00,523
it was saved by
a South African-born family.

1895
01:31:00,589 --> 01:31:02,991
So Penny Streeter
and her family bought it,

1896
01:31:03,058 --> 01:31:04,860
reopened it
and are driving it forward,

1897
01:31:04,927 --> 01:31:06,562
making it what it is today.

1898
01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:08,296
Elgar was...

1899
01:31:08,363 --> 01:31:10,241
He was often considered
quintessentially English,

1900
01:31:10,265 --> 01:31:13,301
but a lot of his influences
were European.

1901
01:31:13,368 --> 01:31:15,838
It's not unusual
for foreign influences

1902
01:31:15,904 --> 01:31:18,641
to find their way into British
culture or British society.

1903
01:31:18,707 --> 01:31:20,408
Same is true of cricket.

1904
01:31:20,475 --> 01:31:22,911
It probably originated
in South East England,

1905
01:31:22,978 --> 01:31:25,480
but there is a competing theory

1906
01:31:25,548 --> 01:31:28,216
which suggests the game
was imported by Flemish weavers,

1907
01:31:28,283 --> 01:31:31,620
who arrived in this country
in the 16th and 17th century.

1908
01:31:31,687 --> 01:31:34,089
So, foreign influences
have made their way

1909
01:31:34,156 --> 01:31:35,891
into English cricket,
just as they have

1910
01:31:35,958 --> 01:31:38,260
into every other aspect
of British life.

1911
01:31:38,326 --> 01:31:42,898
Britishness, for me,
is not about being insular.

1912
01:31:42,965 --> 01:31:45,233
It's about being
open to the world,

1913
01:31:45,300 --> 01:31:50,138
absorbing influences and being
able, in turn, to influence.

1914
01:31:50,205 --> 01:31:53,208
And that, I think,
is one of the things

1915
01:31:53,275 --> 01:31:55,678
that makes us special.

1916
01:32:01,917 --> 01:32:04,753
Britain, 300 years old,

1917
01:32:04,820 --> 01:32:07,856
England, 1,100 years old.

1918
01:32:07,923 --> 01:32:10,726
They're very
different things historically.

1919
01:32:10,793 --> 01:32:12,360
They often say about England

1920
01:32:12,427 --> 01:32:14,462
that it's really the history
of the shires.

1921
01:32:14,529 --> 01:32:19,301
Back in the mists of time is
where we come from, as it were.

1922
01:32:21,369 --> 01:32:23,471
It's very interesting
that the British

1923
01:32:23,538 --> 01:32:25,373
are often called the English,

1924
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:29,011
which extremely annoys members
of the other nations.

1925
01:32:29,077 --> 01:32:32,114
Now where I come
from is extremely English.

1926
01:32:32,180 --> 01:32:35,083
On all sides
of my family, English.

1927
01:32:35,150 --> 01:32:36,819
You have Irish ancestry as well.

1928
01:32:36,885 --> 01:32:38,320
I do.

1929
01:32:38,386 --> 01:32:39,755
Do you consider yourself

1930
01:32:39,822 --> 01:32:41,456
quintessentially
English or British?

1931
01:32:43,158 --> 01:32:44,703
It's very interesting
you should ask that,

1932
01:32:44,727 --> 01:32:46,662
because I've just
done that programme

1933
01:32:46,729 --> 01:32:48,330
Who Do You Think You Are?

1934
01:32:48,396 --> 01:32:53,368
There is a huge slice of me
that is Irish.

1935
01:32:53,435 --> 01:32:56,138
And I was born in England.

1936
01:32:56,204 --> 01:32:59,141
And then there's a lot
of something elsewhere, as well.

1937
01:32:59,207 --> 01:33:01,143
I can't say anymore.

1938
01:33:01,209 --> 01:33:02,911
I'm like a kind of fruitcake.

1939
01:33:02,978 --> 01:33:04,479
Yes, and I discovered

1940
01:33:04,546 --> 01:33:06,414
when I did the same program

1941
01:33:06,481 --> 01:33:08,450
that I had
quite a recent relative

1942
01:33:08,516 --> 01:33:10,853
who was a professional actor.

1943
01:33:10,919 --> 01:33:12,921
I could feel myself
to be a Kiwi,

1944
01:33:12,988 --> 01:33:14,690
having worked there
for quite a lot.

1945
01:33:14,757 --> 01:33:18,160
Sean, born and bred
in Swansea in South Wales

1946
01:33:18,226 --> 01:33:20,028
and lived in
London most of his life,

1947
01:33:20,095 --> 01:33:22,865
still feels he's abroad
when he's in London.

1948
01:33:22,931 --> 01:33:25,467
I think I've brought
my Welshness with me

1949
01:33:25,533 --> 01:33:27,703
throughout my whole life,
everywhere I've been.

1950
01:33:27,770 --> 01:33:30,372
But I've lived in South Africa,
I've lived in America,

1951
01:33:30,438 --> 01:33:33,175
I've lived in England, so
I've lived all over the world.

1952
01:33:33,241 --> 01:33:34,743
And if you ask me in ten years,

1953
01:33:34,810 --> 01:33:37,345
I'll probably be clearer,
but at the moment,

1954
01:33:37,412 --> 01:33:40,048
I'm certainly
feeling very Welsh, yes.

1955
01:33:40,115 --> 01:33:41,850
Blood wise, I'm half Irish,

1956
01:33:41,917 --> 01:33:46,655
so I feel like
I'm a bit of everything.

1957
01:33:46,722 --> 01:33:49,591
But I guess
I quite enjoy playing up

1958
01:33:49,658 --> 01:33:52,260
to being a little bit
of a stereotype of somebody

1959
01:33:52,327 --> 01:33:54,897
who's English, but you know,
and sort of sounding posh,

1960
01:33:54,963 --> 01:33:56,531
but I'm not really posh either.

1961
01:33:56,598 --> 01:33:58,901
I just happen to have
a posh voice.

1962
01:33:58,967 --> 01:34:01,069
But my parents are
from South East London,

1963
01:34:01,136 --> 01:34:02,470
so they talk like that.

1964
01:34:02,537 --> 01:34:04,139
So I don't know what I am,

1965
01:34:04,206 --> 01:34:06,017
but I quite enjoy
playing a bit of a character.

1966
01:34:06,041 --> 01:34:07,642
And if I'm really feeling it,

1967
01:34:07,710 --> 01:34:09,230
I like to pretend
I'm in Downton Abbey.

1968
01:34:09,277 --> 01:34:11,413
That's usually when I'm at home.

1969
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,049
Ooh, quintessentially British,
I think. Yes.

1970
01:34:14,116 --> 01:34:16,151
Yes, I'd like to think.

1971
01:34:16,218 --> 01:34:18,754
I think British is probably how
I would identify myself with,

1972
01:34:18,821 --> 01:34:20,388
purely and simply because

1973
01:34:20,455 --> 01:34:22,390
of the diverse nature
of where I'm from.

1974
01:34:22,457 --> 01:34:24,903
You know, my dad's from Jamaica,
my mum's from England and Wales

1975
01:34:24,927 --> 01:34:26,862
and you know
I think to encapsulate

1976
01:34:26,929 --> 01:34:28,330
as many of the islands

1977
01:34:28,396 --> 01:34:30,565
as I possibly can
and areas within myself,

1978
01:34:30,632 --> 01:34:32,376
that's why I would
probably call myself British

1979
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:33,802
over just English.

1980
01:34:33,869 --> 01:34:36,204
English. Yes.

1981
01:34:36,271 --> 01:34:37,806
Why?

1982
01:34:37,873 --> 01:34:41,944
Um... I don't really know,
to be honest.

1983
01:34:42,010 --> 01:34:48,216
British is a bit, maybe,
sensitive at the moment.

1984
01:34:48,283 --> 01:34:49,818
- English.
- English.

1985
01:34:49,885 --> 01:34:51,887
And why so decisively?

1986
01:34:51,954 --> 01:34:54,923
Why? Because that's our origin.
We are English.

1987
01:34:54,990 --> 01:34:57,159
Yep, definitely.

1988
01:34:57,225 --> 01:35:01,930
I feel I completely identify
as a very British person.

1989
01:35:01,997 --> 01:35:04,800
Yes, I'm very much a proud Brit.
Absolutely.

1990
01:35:05,868 --> 01:35:09,204
I'm from Monmouthshire,
the border of Wales,

1991
01:35:09,271 --> 01:35:12,607
so I think
I always sounded very English

1992
01:35:12,674 --> 01:35:15,210
to the Welsh people
and Welsh to the English people.

1993
01:35:15,277 --> 01:35:16,644
So I think I've always had

1994
01:35:16,711 --> 01:35:18,413
a slightly mongrelised
accent, so...

1995
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:21,049
You're not born British,
you have it thrust upon you.

1996
01:35:21,950 --> 01:35:24,152
I would consider myself English,

1997
01:35:24,219 --> 01:35:27,389
though my parents
were both from Glasgow.

1998
01:35:27,455 --> 01:35:31,259
Yes, I think I do consider
myself quintessentially English.

1999
01:35:31,326 --> 01:35:34,262
I would consider myself British.

2000
01:35:34,329 --> 01:35:36,799
The connotations
of being considered English

2001
01:35:36,865 --> 01:35:39,101
are fairly negative,
I still feel.

2002
01:35:39,167 --> 01:35:42,604
I am English, I am British,
I am Congolese, I am Rwandan,

2003
01:35:42,670 --> 01:35:45,774
I'm a Christian,
I'm black, you know,

2004
01:35:45,841 --> 01:35:49,111
I'm happy to wear
that complexity with pride.

2005
01:35:49,177 --> 01:35:50,979
When people ask me
where I'm from,

2006
01:35:51,046 --> 01:35:52,480
I say I'm from the Caribbean.

2007
01:35:52,547 --> 01:35:54,883
Because like
I am and I'm very proud

2008
01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:57,152
to be from the Caribbean.

2009
01:35:57,219 --> 01:36:01,790
I am English and proudly English

2010
01:36:01,857 --> 01:36:06,461
and I am Irish
and proudly Irish.

2011
01:36:06,528 --> 01:36:08,263
Quintessentially British,

2012
01:36:08,330 --> 01:36:09,808
I've never thought
of myself as English.

2013
01:36:09,832 --> 01:36:11,433
I think we're a generation

2014
01:36:11,499 --> 01:36:14,636
that have grown up
being Brits rather than...

2015
01:36:14,702 --> 01:36:16,371
English in a way.

2016
01:36:16,438 --> 01:36:18,874
If not more European.

2017
01:36:18,941 --> 01:36:20,876
I am English,
I was born in England.

2018
01:36:20,943 --> 01:36:23,345
But I also consider
myself British and to be honest,

2019
01:36:23,411 --> 01:36:24,947
in the current
political climate,

2020
01:36:25,013 --> 01:36:26,781
I consider myself European
as well.

2021
01:36:26,849 --> 01:36:30,185
I'm not allowed to say
I consider myself European.

2022
01:36:30,252 --> 01:36:32,720
Delete that bit from the...

2023
01:36:35,123 --> 01:36:37,359
I consider myself British.

2024
01:36:37,425 --> 01:36:39,027
I'm Lancashire
all the way through.

2025
01:36:39,094 --> 01:36:40,695
I'm Chorley all the way through.

2026
01:36:40,762 --> 01:36:43,731
We've got great sport,
we've got great food.

2027
01:36:43,798 --> 01:36:47,870
Morecambe Bay Shrimps,
Bury Black Pudding,

2028
01:36:47,936 --> 01:36:50,005
Uncle Joe's Mint Balls
from Wigan.

2029
01:36:50,072 --> 01:36:51,940
With all this coming out
of Lancashire,

2030
01:36:52,007 --> 01:36:53,208
we have so much to offer.

2031
01:36:53,275 --> 01:36:54,709
So what do I call myself?

2032
01:36:54,776 --> 01:36:56,211
A Lancastrian.

2033
01:36:56,278 --> 01:36:58,046
Proud to be a Lancastrian,

2034
01:36:58,113 --> 01:37:01,249
proud of my accent,
proud of the North of England.

2035
01:37:01,316 --> 01:37:03,285
And of course, yes I'm English.

2036
01:37:03,351 --> 01:37:04,887
But I'm British as well.

2037
01:37:04,953 --> 01:37:07,522
And I represent a parliament

2038
01:37:07,589 --> 01:37:10,993
that covers the United Kingdom
and that matters to me.

2039
01:37:11,059 --> 01:37:14,762
So of course, yes,
I am British, I am English,

2040
01:37:14,829 --> 01:37:17,432
but I'm a true Lancastrian.

2041
01:37:17,499 --> 01:37:19,167
I was born in England.

2042
01:37:19,234 --> 01:37:21,603
I have a deep attachment
to England.

2043
01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:24,606
But I want to be part
of an internationalist future,

2044
01:37:24,672 --> 01:37:27,075
not an English past.

2045
01:37:27,142 --> 01:37:30,045
I spent a lot of my school days
and university time being taught

2046
01:37:30,112 --> 01:37:33,248
that nationalism had
been a very bad, narrow thing

2047
01:37:33,315 --> 01:37:35,017
which was now extinct.

2048
01:37:35,083 --> 01:37:39,654
And yet we now see a new
brand of narrow Englishness

2049
01:37:39,721 --> 01:37:41,456
that I think is terribly sad.

2050
01:37:41,523 --> 01:37:45,293
And I think it should be
possible both to celebrate a,

2051
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,795
yes, quintessentially British

2052
01:37:47,862 --> 01:37:50,398
or quintessentially English
occasion like this

2053
01:37:50,465 --> 01:37:54,602
without wanting to take
the whole country

2054
01:37:54,669 --> 01:37:57,172
into standing on
the white cliffs of Dover,

2055
01:37:57,239 --> 01:37:59,774
giving two fingers
to Johnny Foreigner.

2056
01:37:59,841 --> 01:38:01,543
Okay?

2057
01:38:07,582 --> 01:38:09,451
If I go home and tell my wife

2058
01:38:09,517 --> 01:38:11,153
that I've ended up
talking about spies,

2059
01:38:11,219 --> 01:38:13,088
she'll just roll
her eyes completely,

2060
01:38:13,155 --> 01:38:14,722
because that's one of my...

2061
01:38:14,789 --> 01:38:16,891
I actually write spy fiction
in my spare time.

2062
01:38:20,028 --> 01:38:22,497
And it bores her to tears.

2063
01:38:22,564 --> 01:38:25,233
My immediate predecessor
as Master of Pembroke,

2064
01:38:25,300 --> 01:38:29,304
was Sir Richard Dearlove,
who had been head of MI6,

2065
01:38:29,371 --> 01:38:34,309
known as C rather than M
in the James Bond films.

2066
01:38:34,376 --> 01:38:37,345
So, yes, there have been people

2067
01:38:37,412 --> 01:38:41,516
from the world of espionage
or counter-espionage here,

2068
01:38:41,583 --> 01:38:45,453
but only in an official capacity
these days.

2069
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:49,557
We did have a previous Master
who was burned at the stake.

2070
01:38:49,624 --> 01:38:51,626
I hope this isn't a pattern

2071
01:38:51,693 --> 01:38:55,730
that will be repeated
for present and future Masters.

2072
01:38:55,797 --> 01:38:57,532
I think Frank, it's gin o'clock,

2073
01:38:57,599 --> 01:39:00,702
so it's been so nice
meeting you.

2074
01:39:00,768 --> 01:39:05,407
And then this is what we have
very much enjoyed...

2075
01:39:07,542 --> 01:39:10,578
creating, making,
and then drinking.

2076
01:39:10,645 --> 01:39:13,281
Mind you,
it was four years of making

2077
01:39:13,348 --> 01:39:15,817
and it was nine months
of tasting gin.

2078
01:39:17,252 --> 01:39:18,987
Can you think

2079
01:39:19,054 --> 01:39:21,165
of any Shakespearean expressions
off the top of your head?

2080
01:39:21,189 --> 01:39:23,358
"Alas, poor Yorick!
I knew him well."

2081
01:39:23,425 --> 01:39:25,827
Not me.

2082
01:39:25,893 --> 01:39:27,829
- That's good, Fred, eh?
- Not bad.

2083
01:39:27,895 --> 01:39:30,865
I'm educated, bruv.
London taxi driver, see?

2084
01:39:30,932 --> 01:39:34,136
We know a bit about everything,
a bit about everything.

2085
01:39:34,202 --> 01:39:36,404
I like to use,
"Therein lies the rub,"

2086
01:39:36,471 --> 01:39:38,540
when I'm often making
a joke about something where,

2087
01:39:38,606 --> 01:39:40,575
you know, it just
maybe doesn't work properly

2088
01:39:40,642 --> 01:39:43,045
or whatever is not a big deal.
"Therein lies the rub."

2089
01:39:43,111 --> 01:39:44,711
But of course,
you know, when it was used

2090
01:39:44,746 --> 01:39:46,414
in a play originally,

2091
01:39:46,481 --> 01:39:48,683
it was for a very,
very tragic situation, you know,

2092
01:39:48,750 --> 01:39:50,185
probably something
life and death,

2093
01:39:50,252 --> 01:39:51,853
it usually is in Shakespeare.

2094
01:39:51,919 --> 01:39:55,123
"To be, or not to be,
that is the question."

2095
01:39:55,190 --> 01:39:57,925
"Wherefore art thou Romeo?"

2096
01:39:57,992 --> 01:40:02,030
"She who doth protest," you know
that sometimes gets said

2097
01:40:02,097 --> 01:40:04,066
in a bit of a joking way
when you're like,

2098
01:40:04,132 --> 01:40:06,801
"Well, I'm really not bothered
about this, but..."

2099
01:40:06,868 --> 01:40:09,404
Personally,
I didn't like Shakespeare.

2100
01:40:09,471 --> 01:40:11,273
You know,
the British have Shakespeare

2101
01:40:11,339 --> 01:40:13,875
and us Chinese have Confucius.

2102
01:40:13,941 --> 01:40:17,579
"Though this is madness,
there is method in it."

2103
01:40:17,645 --> 01:40:20,048
"Such sweet sorrow."

2104
01:40:20,115 --> 01:40:22,217
It's like, she sells
seashells on the seashore.

2105
01:40:22,284 --> 01:40:24,686
The shells she sells
are seashells, I'm sure,

2106
01:40:24,752 --> 01:40:28,390
but if she sells seashells
on the seashore,

2107
01:40:28,456 --> 01:40:30,925
then I'm sure she
sells seashore shells

2108
01:40:30,992 --> 01:40:34,196
and I bet
Ian McKellen can't do that.

2109
01:40:37,132 --> 01:40:41,069
Shakespeare knew and said often
through his characters that,

2110
01:40:41,136 --> 01:40:43,638
"All the world's a stage,

2111
01:40:43,705 --> 01:40:46,208
"and all the men
and women merely players."

2112
01:40:48,210 --> 01:40:50,078
We're all acting.