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[narrator] <i>It's one of</i>
<i>the greatest alien abduction</i>
<i>stories of all time.</i>

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<i>In 1975, six men</i>
<i>in northeast Arizona</i>

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<i>witnessed their crew mate</i>
<i>kidnapped by a UFO.</i>

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I hollered out,
"They got him!"

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[narrator]
<i>But was Travis Walton</i>

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<i>really taken by aliens</i>
<i>or did his crewmates</i>

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<i>have something to do</i>
<i>with his disappearance?</i>

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[John]
<i>The sheriff kept telling me,</i>

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"If you just tell us
where the body is?

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"If you just tell us
where the body is?

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We can all go home."

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[reporter 1] <i>The six men</i>
<i>who reportedly eye witnessed</i>
<i>the incident</i>

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<i>have taken lie detector tests.</i>

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[narrator] <i>The story became</i>
<i>an international sensation,</i>

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<i>inspiring books,</i>
<i>and a Hollywood movie,</i>

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<i>and it ripped apart</i>
<i>a small town.</i>

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<i>This doesn't sound</i>
<i>like a true tale to me.</i>

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[narrator] <i>What happened</i>
<i>to Travis Walton</i>

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<i>that fateful night?</i>

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<i>What torture</i>
<i>was he subjected to?</i>

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<i>Forty five years later,</i>
<i>shocking new evidence</i>

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<i>Forty five years later,</i>
<i>shocking new evidence</i>

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<i>reveals the true story</i>
<i>behind...</i>

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Fire in the Sky,

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<i>the abduction</i>
<i>of Travis Walton.</i>

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[dramatic music playing]

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[man 1] <i>A.P.R.O.</i>

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<i>The Aerial Phenomena</i>
<i>Research Organization</i>

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<i>in Tucson, Arizona.</i>

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<i>They were seeing several</i>
<i>hundred reports of UFO</i>

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<i>sightings each year</i>
<i>from all over the world.</i>

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<i>But one of the most bizarre</i>
<i>reports came recently</i>

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<i>from A.P.R.O.'s own backyard,</i>

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<i>the town of</i>
<i>Snowflake, Arizona.</i>

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[chainsaw buzzing]

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[narrator] <i>The story</i>
<i>begins on an ordinary day.</i>

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[narrator] <i>The story</i>
<i>begins on an ordinary day.</i>

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<i>A seven men logging</i>
<i>crew packs up after hours</i>

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<i>of hard work</i>
<i>in the Apache-Sitgreaves</i>
<i>National Forest.</i>

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[John] <i>It was a typical</i>
<i>day of working hard</i>
<i>out there.</i>

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We worked up until
the sun started going down.

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<i>And by the time</i>
<i>we got all loaded up</i>

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and ready to go,
it was getting fairly dark.

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[narrator]
<i>The tight-knit crew begins</i>

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<i>the rough 30-mile drive back</i>
<i>home to Snowflake, Arizona.</i>

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<i>Foreman Mike Rogers</i>
<i>is behind the wheel</i>

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<i>when the men noticed</i>
<i>something strange.</i>

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We hadn't gone very far.

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I mean, maybe
a quarter of a mile.

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<i>The guys started seeing</i>
<i>a light through the trees.</i>

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[Steve]
<i>There was a bright light</i>

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[Steve]
<i>There was a bright light</i>

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over to the right of us
and we couldn't really tell
what it was.

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[John] <i>I first thought it</i>
<i>was the Moon.</i>

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I turned, I looked over
the other way

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and there's the Moon,
you know?

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[narrator] <i>Could it</i>
<i>be a hunter's campfire?</i>

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<i>An airplane crash?</i>

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<i>The answer</i>
<i>is even more terrifying.</i>

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Right when you
come around that bend

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it just hits you all at once.

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It was just like a saucer

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just sat in the air,
not moving.

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It was, uh, softly glowing.

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Like from the inside out.

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[narrator] <i>Twenty-two-year-old</i>
<i>Travis Walton</i>

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<i>in the passenger seat</i>
<i>startles everyone.</i>

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Before Mike even stopped,

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Travis had, had the door
open and was getting out.

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[Mike] <i>Travis took off</i>
<i>in a fairly brisk walk up</i>
<i>towards it.</i>

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[Mike] <i>Travis took off</i>
<i>in a fairly brisk walk up</i>
<i>towards it.</i>

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<i>And he stood there</i>
<i>for just a few seconds</i>

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and this thing
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[eerie sound]

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It was shocking,
very shocking.

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I heard this noise,
I go, "Oh, crap."

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I felt this rumble, you know,
in the steering wheel.

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That spooked me.

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[indistinct shouting]

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We were yelling,
"Come on, get back in here!"

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Travis, come back!

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[John] <i>We were all terrified.</i>

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[John] <i>We were all terrified.</i>

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And all of the sudden,
this bluish light came out.

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The woods lit up
like a bluish green.

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It zapped him in the chest.

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He flies back
about 15 feet at least.

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His body
bounces off the ground.

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Mike turns on the pickup
and takes off.

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[Mike] <i>There was blind panic.</i>

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White knuckles.

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We went down the road
about a quarter of a mile...

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<i>...then I hit the brakes.</i>

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[tires screeching]

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[indistinct chatter]

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<i>The guys in the truck</i>
<i>were saying,</i>

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<i>"What are you stopping for?</i>

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<i>That thing could be</i>
<i>chasing us," you know?</i>

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<i>And I said, "We left</i>
<i>Travis back there.</i>

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<i>So, we have to go back."</i>

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That's when I became
hysterical, basically.

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Go back, right now.

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Go back, right now.

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You don't know what it was.

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We have
to go back and get him.

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While we were outside
of the truck we saw a flash.

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<i>Now, I assumed</i>
<i>it was that craft.</i>

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Just in a straight, just...
Like that.

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[Steve] <i>Everybody got</i>
<i>their courage back</i>

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till we saw it take off.

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[John] <i>Couldn't leave</i>
<i>Travis out there.</i>

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You just don't leave
a guy behind.

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[Mike] <i>We went back...</i>

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...very slow.

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Buddy!

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Travis!

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[John] <i>We walked around</i>
<i>the perimeter</i>

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looking in the bushes
and that, you know,

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<i>to see if he had crawled off.</i>

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-Travis.
-Travis!

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Travis!

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Travis!

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[John] <i>But he was</i>
<i>nowhere to be found.</i>

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That's when Mike,
he kinda fell down

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That's when Mike,
he kinda fell down

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to the ground
and kinda lost it.

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I broke down.

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<i>I broke down because Travis</i>
<i>wasn't there.</i>

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He was my best friend.

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[narrator]
<i>Guilt-ridden, terrified</i>

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<i>and in way over their heads,</i>

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<i>and in way over their heads,</i>

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<i>the crew members decide to</i>
<i>call law enforcement for help.</i>

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[Mike] <i>We all got back</i>
<i>in the truck, and we left.</i>

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And that was a very,
very emotional trip.

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All right, there's telephone.

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[Steve] <i>There's this phone</i>
<i>at the sub station</i>

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as we get coming off
the dirt road.

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We called
the sheriff's apartment.

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We called
the sheriff's apartment.

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[narrator] <i>The first</i>
<i>officer arriving on scene</i>

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<i>is Navajo County sheriff's</i>
<i>deputy, Chuck Ellison.</i>

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[Chuck Ellison] <i>They were</i>
<i>obviously very upset.</i>

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And I tried to get just
as close to each one of them

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as I could to see
if I could detect odors

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<i>of marihuana, alcohol...</i>

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I didn't detect any.

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[narrator]
<i>Sensing something amiss,</i>

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<i>Ellison talks to each</i>
<i>member of the crew.</i>

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<i>Ellison talks to each</i>
<i>member of the crew.</i>

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<i>Starting with foreman</i>
<i>Mike Rogers.</i>

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[John] <i>Mike, he was</i>
<i>the boss, you know?</i>

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He called the shots
and how things go,

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where you're gonna go,
you know, and all that.

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[narrator] <i>The missing man,</i>
<i>Travis Walton,</i>

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<i>dated Mike's sister, Dana.</i>

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<i>Also in the crew is Mike's</i>
<i>brother-in-law John Goulette.</i>

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John's the kind of person
who gets along with everybody.

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[John] <i>I've known Travis</i>
<i>for a long, long time.</i>

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<i>I met him</i>
<i>when he was a teenager</i>

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when I came up there
to stay with Katie and Mike.

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[narrator] <i>Goulette</i>
<i>brought two other friends</i>
<i>onto the crew.</i>

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<i>Dwayne Smith and Allen Dalis.</i>

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Allen Dalis was a...
Mike said, "the black sheep."

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here on the crew.

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[John] <i>He was a character.</i>
<i>He was...</i>

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You know, he had his run ins

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with the law and that,
you know.

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[narrator] <i>Rounding up</i>
<i>the crew are 26-year-old</i>

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<i>Kenny Peterson</i>
<i>and 17-year-old's</i>
<i>Steve Pierce.</i>

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I was the gofer, you know?

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'Cause I was the youngest.

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[narrator] <i>When the frightened</i>
<i>crew members tell</i>
<i>Deputy Ellison</i>

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<i>that Travis was attacked</i>
<i>by a UFO,</i>

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<i>Ellison calls in his superior,</i>

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<i>Sheriff Marlin Gillespie.</i>

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[Shelley Moore]
<i>Marlin Gillespie</i>
<i>was my father.</i>

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He was the sheriff
of Navajo County
for many years.

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He was the sheriff
of Navajo County
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<i>At the time</i>
<i>that the incident occurred</i>

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<i>they called my father out</i>

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to involve him
and other deputies.

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[Steve] <i>Sheriff Gillespie</i>
<i>showed up</i>

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<i>and we told him what happened,</i>

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<i>and he was looking around</i>
<i>for beer bottles and stuff,</i>

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'cause he didn't really
believe our story.

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[Shelley] <i>He thought</i>
<i>that these men saw something.</i>

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That part he believed because
he said they were scared,

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but he wasn't sure
were they scared

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because of what they had done

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because of what they had done

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or were they really scared
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that Travis
had been taken by a UFO?

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[Steve] <i>He looked at Mike,</i>
<i>he says,</i>

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"You gotta go back
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to come back with me.

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The other three, I want you
to go back to Snowflake

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and don't leave town."

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[narrator] <i>Mike Rogers,</i>
<i>Allen Dalis</i>

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<i>and Kenny Peterson</i>
<i>lead the sheriff</i>

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<i>and his deputies to the site.</i>

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<i>There's no trace of Travis.</i>

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<i>Or the alleged craft.</i>

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I could not see
a skid mark of any kind, like,

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as if some kind of aircraft
that touched on the ground.

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<i>I could not see a footprint</i>
<i>of any kind.</i>

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<i>I couldn't detect any odors.</i>

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<i>I didn't see any burns,</i>

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and I said, "Well,
we may as well leave
because he's not here."

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[narrator] <i>Without industrial</i>
<i>lightning equipment</i>

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[narrator] <i>Without industrial</i>
<i>lightning equipment</i>

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<i>or a huge force of officers,</i>

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<i>the small-town sheriff's</i>
<i>hands are tied.</i>

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<i>He'll have to wait</i>
<i>until morning to launch</i>
<i>a search party</i>

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<i>to find out if Travis</i>
<i>Walton is injured,</i>

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<i>dead or is it possible</i>

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<i>that he was abducted</i>
<i>by aliens?</i>

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[instrumental music playing]

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[narrator] <i>Twenty-two-year-old</i>
<i>Travis Walton is missing.</i>

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<i>Travis' older brother, Don,</i>
<i>recalls the night</i>

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<i>that changed</i>
<i>his family's life forever.</i>

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[Don] <i>Mother came over</i>
<i>to my home about three o'clock</i>
<i>in the morning.</i>

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Mama's pretty hysterical
when she got there.

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She kept repeating,
"They got him. They got him."

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I didn't know what to think.

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[narrator] <i>Across town,</i>
<i>the other crewmen's families</i>

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<i>anxiously await the arrival</i>
<i>of their loved ones.</i>

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[Angie] <i>I was at Mike's</i>
<i>house because</i>

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Mike's then wife, Katie,
and I were putting on a quilt.

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<i>We were gonna make this big</i>
<i>ole quilt for a wedding,</i>

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<i>and Mike didn't come home</i>
<i>when he normally does.</i>

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Once it's dark you can't saw
trees out in the woods.

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<i>We were starting to get</i>
<i>kind of worried about him.</i>

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<i>We were starting to get</i>
<i>kind of worried about him.</i>

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Katie's younger brother
worked with Mike, too.

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<i>John Goulette,</i>

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so she was worried
about him as well.

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[narrator] <i>But when Mike</i>
<i>finally does make it home,</i>

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<i>his family's worries</i>
<i>only intensify.</i>

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They started telling
us what was going on...

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[dramatic music playing]

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<i>That's when we found out</i>
<i>that it was Travis</i>

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<i>That's when we found out</i>
<i>that it was Travis</i>

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that was missing,
and my brother Mike

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looked like he had aged 20-30
years just in that day.

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<i>Mike felt this big, huge</i>
<i>weight on his shoulders.</i>

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He felt
responsible for Travis.

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[narrator] <i>Mike and Angie's</i>
<i>little sister, Dana,</i>

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<i>who dated Travis at the time,</i>
<i>can't believe what she hears.</i>

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<i>Was her boyfriend</i>
<i>attacked by an alien ship?</i>

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They just
told me what happened.

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I think they said "UFO."

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And I was, you know, kind of
shocked about what happened.

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Like, it was hard to believe.

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But it was really scary,

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I was really worried
about Travis,

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<i>but I could tell those guys</i>
<i>were telling the truth.</i>

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<i>They seemed very traumatized.</i>

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It scares the hell out of you

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because your reality
just becomes so different.

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[dramatic music playing]

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[serene music playing]

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[narrator] <i>As rays of early</i>
<i>morning sunlight</i>

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<i>stretch across</i>
<i>Navajo County, Arizona,</i>

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<i>the sleepy town of Snowflake</i>

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<i>awakens to an unearthly,</i>
<i>unsolved mystery.</i>

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When we got up
the next morning, you know,

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my mother had let us know that
my father was investigating

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my mother had let us know that
my father was investigating

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<i>something that had happened</i>

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<i>out in the woods and that</i>
<i>somebody had been abducted</i>

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by a UFO.

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[narrator]
<i>News of Travis Walton's</i>
<i>UFO abduction</i>

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<i>spreads like wildfire.</i>

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<i>I've always thought</i>
<i>there could be UFO,</i>

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<i>but, uh... That story's</i>
<i>kinda farfetched.</i>

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<i>We've seen 'em.</i>

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<i>-You've seen 'em?</i>
<i>-Yeah.</i>

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<i>This doesn't sound</i>
<i>like a true tale to me.</i>

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[Tammy Mills] <i>My father was</i>
<i>the deputy sheriff</i>
<i>in Navajo County.</i>

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I remember my father
coming home

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and talking about it
and he was rolling his eyes,

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and talking about it
and he was rolling his eyes,

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like... Hmm.

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[Shelley] <i>There was</i>
<i>a lot of skepticism.</i>

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Most people were having
a hard time believing it.

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[John] <i>It's a very</i>
<i>religious community.</i>

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The elders
of the church and that,

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they were telling people,
"Hey, you know,

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this ain't true.
You all don't believe it."

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[Mike] <i>My wife didn't know</i>
<i>whether to believe it</i>

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or not, you know?

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She was skeptical, you know?

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[narrator] <i>As the town</i>
<i>of Snowflake debates</i>

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<i>the existence of aliens</i>
<i>and UFOs,</i>

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<i>the rest of the world</i>

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<i>focusses their attention</i>
<i>on human space flight.</i>

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[man 2 over radio] <i>Moving out.</i>
<i>Clear the tower.</i>

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[man 3 over radio]
<i>Roger. Tower clear.</i>

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[narrator]
<i>Just seven years earlier,</i>
Apollo 11 <i>first landed humans</i>

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<i>on the Moon, and just</i>
<i>a few months earlier,</i>

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<i>in July of 1975,</i>

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<i>the decade's long space race</i>
<i>between the United States</i>

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<i>the decade's long space race</i>
<i>between the United States</i>

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<i>and the Soviet Union</i>

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<i>officially came</i>
<i>to a peaceful end.</i>

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<i>Proving that space</i>
<i>exploration could overcome</i>

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<i>such earth-bound conflicts</i>
<i>as politics and nationalism.</i>

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<i>Yet as mankind casts</i>
<i>its hopeful eyes</i>

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<i>to the sky, other mysteries</i>
<i>from deepest space emerge.</i>

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<i>to the sky, other mysteries</i>
<i>from deepest space emerge.</i>

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<i>Reports of UFO sightings</i>
<i>and alien abductions</i>

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<i>were on the rise</i>
<i>in the mid-1970s.</i>

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1975 in particular was a,
uh, an active year for UFOs.

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Across the country
there were sightings,

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and we call this a flap.

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It's a period
of activity researchers,

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uh, look for patterns as to
why this particular location,

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why this time?

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[narrator] <i>The state</i>
<i>of Arizona routinely ranks</i>

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<i>among the top areas</i>
<i>in the world</i>

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<i>for UFO-related events.</i>

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[Ben Hansen] <i>If you go back</i>
<i>to the summer of '47</i>

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there's newspaper
articles of a craft

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similar to what was
described in Roswell

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that happened only weeks
or months before.

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<i>Then you have 1952,</i>
<i>the Marana Air Force Base.</i>

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A silvery disk
was reported hovering

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over the air force base
and when they scrambled jets

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<i>to try and get to it,</i>
<i>it disappeared.</i>

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<i>to try and get to it,</i>
<i>it disappeared.</i>

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[Bryce Zabel] <i>The American</i>
<i>Southwest is home</i>

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to all kinds
of military installations.

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It's where we created
the first nuclear bombs.

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[explosion]

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<i>It's where Roswell happened.</i>

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<i>Why does all this</i>
<i>happen with UFOs?</i>

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Because it's so important to
the United States government

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and to our military projection
of power,

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and so it would make sense
that if another intelligence

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and so it would make sense
that if another intelligence

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was here to find out
what makes humans tick,

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they might start there.

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[narrator] <i>Is there something</i>
<i>in the Southwest territory</i>

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<i>that attracts</i>
<i>extra-planetary explorers?</i>

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<i>Authorities in Snowflake</i>
<i>don't believe claims</i>

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<i>that Travis Walton</i>
<i>was abducted by aliens.</i>

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<i>But with the loggers</i>
<i>whereabout unaccounted for,</i>

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<i>law enforcements</i>
<i>launches a massive manhunt.</i>

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<i>law enforcements</i>
<i>launches a massive manhunt.</i>

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[Shelley] <i>The sheriff's</i>
<i>department went up</i>

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on the rim
to the Turkey Springs area

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where this incident
supposedly occurred.

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<i>They had the sheriff's posse</i>
<i>out looking for him.</i>

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[Angie] <i>They had helicopters</i>
<i>and they had dogs.</i>

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<i>There's people just walking.</i>

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They had all kinds of stuff
looking for him

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and they just looked
and looked and looked.

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[narrator] <i>Travis' older</i>
<i>brother Don,</i>

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<i>a forest service employee,</i>
<i>joins the search party.</i>

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<i>a forest service employee,</i>
<i>joins the search party.</i>

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It was a madhouse out there.

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There's probably
150-200 people

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out searching for Travis.

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[narrator]
<i>The longer they look,</i>

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<i>the more law enforcement</i>
<i>and Travis' family</i>

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<i>become suspicious</i>
<i>of foul play.</i>

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[Tammy] <i>They were thinking</i>
<i>the crew got</i>

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in some kind of a skirmish
and maybe killed Travis.

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in some kind of a skirmish
and maybe killed Travis.

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[Angie] <i>Travis' family</i>
<i>was all looking at Mike,</i>

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like, "Okay, Mike,
where's our Travis?"

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[Don] <i>I thought maybe</i>
<i>a bad accident</i>

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had happened where
the chainsaw may hit his body.

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[John] <i>I did the first day,</i>
<i>I went out there with them.</i>

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<i>They kinda split us up and had</i>
<i>us go in different routes.</i>

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And each group had
a deputy sheriff.

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<i>He kept telling me, you know,</i>
<i>"If you just tell us</i>

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where the body is,
we can all go home."

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where the body is,
we can all go home."

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[narrator]
<i>Although they reported Travis</i>

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00:20:28,867 --> 00:20:31,500
<i>was captured by a UFO,</i>

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<i>the crew now realize they're</i>
<i>suspected of murder.</i>

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[Chuck] <i>As we started going</i>
<i>through these brush piles,</i>

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I wanna know
if there's anything

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in those brush piles
that might resemble a body.

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Couldn't figure out
what would happen to him,
where he went, you know?

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We were all confused,
we couldn't figure out

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why we couldn't find a body.

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why we couldn't find a body.

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[narrator] <i>Travis Walton</i>
<i>may have disappeared</i>

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<i>without a trace,</i>

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00:21:01,266 --> 00:21:02,567
<i>but there is evidence</i>

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00:21:02,567 --> 00:21:07,166
<i>that something very strange</i>
<i>happened in those woods.</i>

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[Don] <i>Region headquarters</i>
<i>in Albuquerque,</i>

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they sent a man over
at the request

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of the sheriff's department
to bring a Geiger counter.

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Today I am the only
living person

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who saw the readings
on that Geiger counter.

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[narrator] <i>Don claims</i>
<i>he witnessed the Geiger</i>
<i>counter needles spike.</i>

403
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<i>Indicating a high</i>
<i>level of radiation</i>

404
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,700
<i>at the alleged UFO site.</i>

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[Don] <i>It was off scale.</i>

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<i>You could see</i>
<i>the difference in the...</i>

407
00:21:47,667 --> 00:21:49,266
What the needle was showing.

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00:21:50,667 --> 00:21:53,500
<i>It would drop off after,</i>
<i>at 100 yards.</i>

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That scared me.
That kind of radiation.

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[Geiger counter crackling]

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[narrator] <i>Could high levels</i>
<i>of localize radiation</i>

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00:22:06,467 --> 00:22:09,467
<i>be evidence of an alien craft?</i>

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00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:14,767
[instrumental music playing]

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[reporter 2] <i>Wood cutters</i>
<i>said they were riding</i>

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00:22:26,667 --> 00:22:29,266
<i>in this truck along</i>
<i>an isolated mountain road</i>

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<i>when suddenly a spaceship</i>
<i>hovered over them.</i>

417
00:22:32,166 --> 00:22:34,567
<i>This is what the spaceship</i>
<i>looked like according</i>

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00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:36,900
<i>to one of the men</i>
<i>who drew this picture.</i>

419
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,266
<i>Another of the men,</i>
<i>22-year-old Travis Walton</i>

420
00:22:40,266 --> 00:22:41,867
<i>reportedly got out</i>
<i>of the truck</i>

421
00:22:41,867 --> 00:22:42,664
<i>and approached the spaceship.</i>

422
00:22:42,664 --> 00:22:43,367
<i>and approached the spaceship.</i>

423
00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:48,567
[narrator] <i>As law enforcement</i>
<i>and volunteers scour</i>

424
00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:52,467
<i>the Sitgreaves National Forest</i>
<i>for a second day,</i>

425
00:22:52,467 --> 00:22:56,266
<i>the search for Travis Walton</i>
<i>and the sensational claim</i>

426
00:22:56,266 --> 00:23:00,100
<i>of his UFO abduction makes</i>
<i>headlines around the world.</i>

427
00:23:02,567 --> 00:23:06,200
<i>Media outlets descend upon</i>
<i>Walton's hometown</i>

428
00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:07,700
<i>of Snowflake, Arizona.</i>

429
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,567
Our town had never really had
any reporters at all,

430
00:23:11,567 --> 00:23:12,664
and then all of the sudden
there's like people

431
00:23:12,664 --> 00:23:13,500
and then all of the sudden
there's like people

432
00:23:13,567 --> 00:23:16,100
from all over the world,
all different countries.

433
00:23:16,166 --> 00:23:18,166
[Angie] <i>It was just</i>
<i>the strangest thing</i>

434
00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:20,767
<i>that the word got out</i>
<i>that fast.</i>

435
00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:24,100
I think there was even some
reporters from Japan.

436
00:23:24,166 --> 00:23:25,567
[reporters clamoring]

437
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,266
[narrator]
<i>The media hounds everyone</i>
<i>involved in the case.</i>

438
00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:32,166
<i>Including</i>
<i>Sheriff Marlin Gillespie.</i>

439
00:23:32,166 --> 00:23:34,900
I just remember the phones
were ringing off the hook.

440
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,667
[phone ringing]

441
00:23:37,767 --> 00:23:40,600
No one had pagers,
no one had cellphones

442
00:23:40,667 --> 00:23:42,664
and my father
couldn't take the phone

443
00:23:42,664 --> 00:23:42,700
and my father
couldn't take the phone

444
00:23:42,767 --> 00:23:44,600
off the hook because
he depended on that.

445
00:23:44,667 --> 00:23:46,367
They needed to get
ahold of them for work.

446
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,166
[narrator] <i>But reporters</i>
<i>aren't the only</i>
<i>curious visitors</i>

447
00:23:51,166 --> 00:23:53,000
<i>to suddenly appear</i>
<i>in Snowflake.</i>

448
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,567
<i>Mysterious out</i>
<i>of towners cramp up</i>

449
00:23:56,567 --> 00:23:58,166
<i>amongst the search parties.</i>

450
00:24:00,867 --> 00:24:04,200
You always tell, back then,
a government car

451
00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:06,767
because it was just
a ugly color.

452
00:24:06,767 --> 00:24:10,100
<i>And the rims always</i>
<i>matched the color of the car.</i>

453
00:24:11,266 --> 00:24:12,664
<i>There'd be two guys</i>
<i>sitting in there.</i>

454
00:24:12,664 --> 00:24:13,100
<i>There'd be two guys</i>
<i>sitting in there.</i>

455
00:24:13,166 --> 00:24:15,600
<i>Suits and sunglasses</i>
<i>just watching you.</i>

456
00:24:15,667 --> 00:24:19,100
[Ben] <i>Most people know the Men</i>
<i>in Black from pop culture</i>

457
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:21,667
but there have
been historically

458
00:24:21,667 --> 00:24:23,166
verified incidents

459
00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:25,367
where unidentified
government agents

460
00:24:25,367 --> 00:24:27,400
follow up on cases like this.

461
00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:30,467
[John] I <i>take off</i>
<i>to go somewhere</i>

462
00:24:30,567 --> 00:24:33,266
<i>and by the time I got</i>
<i>to where I was gonna go</i>

463
00:24:33,367 --> 00:24:35,166
they were already sitting
there waiting.

464
00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:37,266
You know?
I don't know how they knew
where I was going.

465
00:24:38,467 --> 00:24:40,667
[Bryce] <i>People have suspected</i>
<i>over the years</i>

466
00:24:40,767 --> 00:24:42,664
that among that crowd
of people that included
journalists

467
00:24:42,664 --> 00:24:44,100
that among that crowd
of people that included
journalists

468
00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:48,400
and UFO observers
were people from
the United States government

469
00:24:48,467 --> 00:24:50,600
<i>who wanted to know</i>
<i>more about this case.</i>

470
00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:52,367
<i>And why would they</i>
<i>wanna know more about it?</i>

471
00:24:52,367 --> 00:24:55,667
<i>Because they knew UFOs were</i>
<i>real whether they admitted it</i>

472
00:24:55,667 --> 00:24:58,667
to the public or not,
but, uh, they thought

473
00:24:58,767 --> 00:25:01,000
that the Travis Walton case
was a pretty good case.

474
00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:03,367
[intense music playing]

475
00:25:20,367 --> 00:25:24,200
[narrator] <i>Travis has now</i>
<i>been missing for three days.</i>

476
00:25:24,266 --> 00:25:29,100
<i>His loved ones face</i>
<i>an agonizing lack of answers.</i>

477
00:25:29,166 --> 00:25:31,900
[Dana] <i>I think everybody</i>
<i>got more and more worried.</i>

478
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,600
Everybody was more
tense and scared

479
00:25:35,667 --> 00:25:37,200
the longer the time went by.

480
00:25:39,266 --> 00:25:41,767
[narrator] <i>With every</i>
<i>passing hour the crew</i>

481
00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:42,664
<i>feels the crushing</i>
<i>pressure of suspicion.</i>

482
00:25:42,664 --> 00:25:44,400
<i>feels the crushing</i>
<i>pressure of suspicion.</i>

483
00:25:45,567 --> 00:25:46,767
[Steve] <i>I wasn't going out.</i>

484
00:25:46,767 --> 00:25:48,367
<i>I was hiding</i>
<i>at a girlfriend's house</i>

485
00:25:48,367 --> 00:25:51,166
and staying away
from everybody.

486
00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:54,367
I'd say four out of five
people thought, you know,

487
00:25:54,367 --> 00:25:57,266
it was either a hoax or,
or was a murder or something.

488
00:25:58,300 --> 00:25:59,800
[narrator]
<i>Even without a body,</i>

489
00:25:59,867 --> 00:26:02,467
<i>the sheriff's department</i>
<i>investigates the case</i>

490
00:26:02,567 --> 00:26:03,900
<i>as a homicide.</i>

491
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,667
<i>It doesn't take long</i>
<i>to zero in on a suspect.</i>

492
00:26:10,066 --> 00:26:12,367
<i>Crew member Allen Dalis.</i>

493
00:26:13,367 --> 00:26:15,300
[Steve] <i>The cops,</i>
<i>they found out</i>

494
00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:18,700
about a fight that Travis
and Allen Dalis was in.

495
00:26:21,367 --> 00:26:24,500
He'd fight anybody, and he
could get pretty ornery.

496
00:26:24,567 --> 00:26:26,100
He didn't
like Mike and Travis.

497
00:26:28,967 --> 00:26:31,367
[Don] <i>I was pretty confident</i>
<i>in my head at that time</i>

498
00:26:31,467 --> 00:26:34,000
that Allen
had something to do with this.

499
00:26:34,066 --> 00:26:36,166
I accused him
of killing Travis.

500
00:26:39,567 --> 00:26:41,266
[narrator] <i>Authorities</i>
<i>turn up the heat</i>

501
00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:42,664
<i>on the remaining crew members.</i>

502
00:26:42,664 --> 00:26:43,000
<i>on the remaining crew members.</i>

503
00:26:44,266 --> 00:26:46,266
[Tammy] <i>I remember</i>
<i>my dad saying</i>

504
00:26:46,367 --> 00:26:50,266
that Marlin Gillespie was
questioning the boys down

505
00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:52,100
saying, "Just admit,
you killed him.

506
00:26:52,166 --> 00:26:53,600
Just admit it."

507
00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:55,300
[Steve]
<i>Flake pulls up and he says,</i>

508
00:26:55,367 --> 00:26:57,000
<i>"We know you didn't do</i>
<i>the killing,</i>

509
00:26:57,066 --> 00:27:00,066
but we know for sure
that Allen Dalis killed Travis

510
00:27:00,066 --> 00:27:02,567
or Jon Goulette killed him."

511
00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:06,400
[John] <i>Once I figured out</i>
<i>what they were doing</i>
<i>and what they thought,</i>

512
00:27:06,467 --> 00:27:08,800
you know, I pretty much stayed
away from the cops, you know.

513
00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:12,166
[narrator]
<i>The sheriff's department</i>

514
00:27:12,166 --> 00:27:12,664
<i>asks Mike Rogers</i>
<i>and the other crewmen</i>

515
00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:14,100
<i>asks Mike Rogers</i>
<i>and the other crewmen</i>

516
00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:16,900
<i>to submit</i>
<i>to a polygraph examination.</i>

517
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,967
<i>Rogers jumps at the chance</i>
<i>to clear their names.</i>

518
00:27:22,967 --> 00:27:25,400
<i>We told him, you know,</i>
<i>"We'll take polygraph test.</i>

519
00:27:25,467 --> 00:27:28,900
<i>We'll... We'll take</i>
<i>sodium pentothal, hypnosis,</i>

520
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,166
<i>anything you can give us</i>
<i>because this thing</i>
<i>really happened</i>

521
00:27:32,166 --> 00:27:35,400
<i>and we don't like this</i>
<i>thing about you accusing us</i>
<i>of murder."</i>

522
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,367
[narrator]
<i>The men are summoned</i>

523
00:27:44,467 --> 00:27:46,800
<i>to take polygraph tests</i>
<i>at the Navajo County</i>

524
00:27:46,867 --> 00:27:48,767
<i>courthouse in nearby Holbrook.</i>

525
00:27:49,367 --> 00:27:51,200
It was scary, really scary

526
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:54,900
<i>to go into that courthouse.</i>

527
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,367
The courthouse and the jail
was the same building.

528
00:27:58,867 --> 00:28:03,000
[Steve] <i>I was more scared</i>
<i>the day of the polygraph test</i>

529
00:28:03,066 --> 00:28:05,767
than I was when I saw
Travis getting zapped.

530
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,166
[John] <i>I didn't know who</i>
<i>was gonna give us this test.</i>

531
00:28:10,266 --> 00:28:12,467
<i>I was thinking, "You know,</i>
<i>they could be setting us up.</i>

532
00:28:12,467 --> 00:28:12,664
No matter what,
we're probably gonna fail this

533
00:28:12,664 --> 00:28:14,700
No matter what,
we're probably gonna fail this

534
00:28:14,767 --> 00:28:16,367
and we'll probably
gonna go to jail."

535
00:28:16,367 --> 00:28:19,100
When we went in there we
figured we weren't coming out.

536
00:28:22,667 --> 00:28:26,166
This polygraph test
went on all day long.

537
00:28:26,166 --> 00:28:27,767
<i>Up until the evening.</i>

538
00:28:29,867 --> 00:28:32,600
Because the test take
about two hours a piece.

539
00:28:33,867 --> 00:28:36,767
[narrator]
<i>As part of the test,</i>
<i>the polygrapher asks</i>

540
00:28:36,867 --> 00:28:40,300
<i>each crewmen the same series</i>
<i>of questions three times.</i>

541
00:28:41,567 --> 00:28:42,664
<i>The first</i>
<i>three questions regard</i>

542
00:28:42,664 --> 00:28:43,500
<i>The first</i>
<i>three questions regard</i>

543
00:28:43,567 --> 00:28:46,000
<i>the alleged murder</i>
<i>of Travis Walton.</i>

544
00:28:46,066 --> 00:28:48,300
<i>The subject</i>
<i>of the final question</i>

545
00:28:48,367 --> 00:28:50,266
<i>is the UFO.</i>

546
00:28:50,367 --> 00:28:52,467
[Mike] <i>Once the test</i>
<i>got underway</i>

547
00:28:52,467 --> 00:28:55,100
<i>he started changing his</i>
<i>mind really quickly.</i>

548
00:28:56,767 --> 00:28:59,000
<i>By the time he had</i>
<i>tested all of us,</i>

549
00:28:59,066 --> 00:29:01,066
<i>he seemed to be a believer.</i>

550
00:29:02,266 --> 00:29:03,867
[narrator]
<i>Five of the six men passed</i>

551
00:29:03,867 --> 00:29:05,967
<i>the lie detector</i>
<i>test outright.</i>

552
00:29:05,967 --> 00:29:12,066
<i>Only Allen Dalis' test</i>
<i>comes back as inconclusive.</i>

553
00:29:12,066 --> 00:29:12,664
Allen actually passed
the first two run throughs
of this test.

554
00:29:12,664 --> 00:29:16,367
Allen actually passed
the first two run throughs
of this test.

555
00:29:16,367 --> 00:29:19,266
<i>It was inconclusive</i>
<i>because he pulled himself lose</i>

556
00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,800
from a scene
in the last run through.

557
00:29:23,767 --> 00:29:25,967
[narrator] <i>The results</i>
<i>of the polygraph</i>

558
00:29:25,967 --> 00:29:29,166
<i>stunned everyone</i>
<i>in the town of Snowflake.</i>

559
00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:32,667
<i>Perhaps none more so</i>
<i>than the polygrapher himself.</i>

560
00:29:33,767 --> 00:29:35,867
<i>I talked to him</i>
<i>after the test,</i>

561
00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:41,066
<i>and he indicated to me that...</i>
<i>That apparently he was wrong.</i>

562
00:29:41,066 --> 00:29:42,664
<i>Unofficially he said</i>
<i>that he believed</i>

563
00:29:42,664 --> 00:29:44,300
<i>Unofficially he said</i>
<i>that he believed</i>

564
00:29:44,367 --> 00:29:47,100
<i>that we had told the truth.</i>

565
00:29:48,367 --> 00:29:50,700
[narrator] <i>For five</i>
<i>excruciating days,</i>

566
00:29:50,767 --> 00:29:53,867
<i>Travis Walton</i>
<i>has been missing.</i>

567
00:29:53,967 --> 00:29:55,867
<i>The skeptical</i>
<i>sheriff's department</i>

568
00:29:55,967 --> 00:29:58,266
<i>is back to square one.</i>

569
00:29:58,266 --> 00:30:01,100
<i>If Travis Walton</i>
<i>hasn't been murdered</i>

570
00:30:01,166 --> 00:30:04,367
<i>and no one can find his body</i>
<i>in the woods,</i>

571
00:30:05,266 --> 00:30:07,467
<i>where could he be?</i>

572
00:30:08,767 --> 00:30:10,767
[suspenseful music playing]

573
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,266
<i>Late that night, the phone</i>
<i>rings at Travis' sister's</i>
<i>home.</i>

574
00:30:19,266 --> 00:30:21,700
[telephone ringing]

575
00:30:21,767 --> 00:30:24,867
<i>His brother-in-law,</i>
<i>Grant, answers.</i>

576
00:30:26,667 --> 00:30:28,467
[Grant]
<i>I had come home from work.</i>

577
00:30:29,066 --> 00:30:30,300
Phone rang

578
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,467
and it was a voice
on the other side saying,

579
00:30:33,967 --> 00:30:35,300
"This is Travis.

580
00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:37,800
<i>Come and get me."</i>

581
00:30:41,166 --> 00:30:42,567
[suspenseful music playing]

582
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,767
[narrator] <i>Travis Walton has</i>
<i>been missing for five days.</i>

583
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,100
<i>When Travis' brother-in-law,</i>
<i>Grant, answers a late-night</i>

584
00:31:01,166 --> 00:31:04,100
<i>phone call,</i>
<i>he assumes it's a prank.</i>

585
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:05,700
[Grant] <i>And I said,</i>
<i>"Yeah, right."</i>

586
00:31:05,767 --> 00:31:07,567
I get ready to hang up
he said,

587
00:31:07,567 --> 00:31:09,200
"No, no, no, no,
please don't hang up."

588
00:31:09,266 --> 00:31:10,638
And, so then
I started listening

589
00:31:10,638 --> 00:31:11,467
And, so then
I started listening

590
00:31:11,467 --> 00:31:13,867
and then
the conversation ended.

591
00:31:13,967 --> 00:31:17,567
I got my wife out of bed,
we went to her mother's place.

592
00:31:17,567 --> 00:31:20,667
<i>His brother Duane</i>
<i>was there visiting.</i>

593
00:31:20,667 --> 00:31:23,266
<i>We got in the truck,</i>
<i>drove to Heber</i>

594
00:31:23,266 --> 00:31:24,967
where he described
where he was.

595
00:31:28,667 --> 00:31:30,667
I must've passed out
'cause it seemed like almost

596
00:31:30,767 --> 00:31:34,567
immediately they were, um...
Headlights of the truck

597
00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:36,667
were shining
into the phone booth

598
00:31:37,867 --> 00:31:40,266
<i>and my brother came</i>
<i>over there and lifted me up.</i>

599
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,567
<i>And I was just hysterical.</i>

600
00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:49,500
<i>He sort of lifted me</i>
<i>into the truck</i>

601
00:31:49,567 --> 00:31:53,066
and I was just breaking down,
just disintegrating.

602
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,367
[narrator] <i>In this rare</i>
<i>archival interview</i>

603
00:31:58,467 --> 00:32:02,000
<i>Travis recalls the events</i>
<i>leading up to the phone call.</i>

604
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,000
[narrator] <i>Wandering</i>
<i>the road for what feels</i>

605
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:35,667
<i>like hours, Travis recognizes</i>

606
00:32:35,767 --> 00:32:38,667
<i>the lights of Heber,</i>
<i>Arizona, in the distance.</i>

607
00:32:41,967 --> 00:32:44,300
[Travis] <i>I ran down</i>
<i>into the town</i>

608
00:32:45,567 --> 00:32:46,967
<i>and called my family.</i>

609
00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:48,967
<i>"Come and get me."</i>

610
00:32:57,367 --> 00:32:59,467
[narrator] <i>On the way back</i>
<i>to Snowflake,</i>

611
00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:02,700
<i>Travis struggles to piece</i>
<i>together his experience.</i>

612
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,467
[Travis] <i>One of the biggest</i>
<i>shocks I had to deal with</i>

613
00:33:07,567 --> 00:33:09,500
<i>when I was returned</i>
<i>was finding out</i>

614
00:33:09,567 --> 00:33:10,638
<i>that this brief period of time</i>

615
00:33:10,638 --> 00:33:11,867
<i>that this brief period of time</i>

616
00:33:11,967 --> 00:33:14,700
<i>had somehow taken</i>
<i>over five days.</i>

617
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:19,166
<i>My brother, he asked me</i>
<i>to feel my face</i>

618
00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:21,967
<i>and I had a, had a...</i>
<i>You know, weeks growth.</i>

619
00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:25,300
<i>I was... It really took</i>
<i>my mind just to reel at that</i>

620
00:33:25,367 --> 00:33:28,000
<i>because as far as I knew</i>
<i>it was the same night.</i>

621
00:33:29,867 --> 00:33:32,667
<i>I was trying to describe</i>
<i>what I'd experienced,</i>

622
00:33:32,667 --> 00:33:34,767
but I was just
making it worst.

623
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,367
<i>And he finally said,</i>
<i>"Don't try to talk right now."</i>

624
00:33:39,367 --> 00:33:40,638
He talked about how scared
the family had been.

625
00:33:40,638 --> 00:33:42,867
He talked about how scared
the family had been.

626
00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:47,767
[narrator] <i>For Travis' family,</i>
<i>the past week</i>

627
00:33:47,767 --> 00:33:50,500
<i>has been</i>
<i>an emotional roller coaster.</i>

628
00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:52,000
[Grant]
<i>Everybody was relieved,</i>

629
00:33:52,066 --> 00:33:54,867
<i>but they were still kind</i>
<i>of in a shock mode.</i>

630
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:58,767
It didn't affect me as much
as it did my wife,

631
00:33:58,767 --> 00:34:03,467
and she still doesn't
wanna be bothered with it.

632
00:34:03,567 --> 00:34:05,767
[Angie] <i>When Travis came back</i>

633
00:34:05,867 --> 00:34:08,367
<i>we were all so relieved.</i>

634
00:34:09,166 --> 00:34:10,638
At the same time
the story was so hard

635
00:34:10,638 --> 00:34:13,400
At the same time
the story was so hard

636
00:34:13,467 --> 00:34:17,600
to fit in to your realm
of reality, you know?

637
00:34:21,266 --> 00:34:26,800
[narrator] <i>Even decades later,</i>
<i>the trauma of those five days</i>

638
00:34:26,867 --> 00:34:31,200
<i>still weighs heavy on Travis</i>
<i>and his now wife Dana.</i>

639
00:34:33,266 --> 00:34:35,266
[Dana] <i>I was really,</i>
<i>really worried,</i>

640
00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:38,166
<i>and scared that you...</i>
<i>What happened to you,</i>

641
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:40,638
I didn't know
if you'd ever be returned.

642
00:34:40,638 --> 00:34:40,667
I didn't know
if you'd ever be returned.

643
00:34:41,967 --> 00:34:44,200
Specially the more days
went by,

644
00:34:44,266 --> 00:34:46,266
gets more and more scary.

645
00:34:47,266 --> 00:34:48,367
Well...

646
00:34:48,367 --> 00:34:50,600
[Travis] Did you ever
think for a minute

647
00:34:50,667 --> 00:34:53,500
that maybe the guys
or Mike or something

648
00:34:53,567 --> 00:34:56,467
-were covering up
a killing, a murder?
-No.

649
00:34:56,567 --> 00:34:58,300
No, I never thought that.

650
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:01,500
Yep.

651
00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:05,266
I even went out to the window,
and I looked up on the sky

652
00:35:05,367 --> 00:35:08,400
and I said, "Will you please
bring Travis back?"

653
00:35:08,467 --> 00:35:09,900
[sobbing]

654
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,400
-I'm sorry.
-That must've hurt you.

655
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,867
[narrator] <i>With Travis</i>
<i>in such a fragile state,</i>

656
00:35:36,867 --> 00:35:39,767
<i>his brother Duane</i>
<i>is determined to protect him</i>

657
00:35:39,767 --> 00:35:40,638
<i>from any intense</i>
<i>scrutiny by the media</i>

658
00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:42,100
<i>from any intense</i>
<i>scrutiny by the media</i>

659
00:35:42,166 --> 00:35:43,700
<i>or law enforcement.</i>

660
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,266
<i>Desperate for assistance,</i>
<i>he reaches out</i>

661
00:35:48,266 --> 00:35:51,066
<i>to the Aerial Phenomena</i>
<i>Research Organization</i>

662
00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,367
<i>or A.P.R.O.</i>

663
00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:55,400
<i>A Tucson based</i>
<i>UFO investigative group.</i>

664
00:35:57,767 --> 00:36:01,400
[Ben] <i>Jim and Coral Lorenzen</i>
<i>really assembled A.P.R.O.</i>

665
00:36:01,467 --> 00:36:03,867
<i>with the key focus</i>
<i>of having a credible</i>

666
00:36:03,967 --> 00:36:07,500
<i>and scientific,</i>
<i>unbiased perspective.</i>

667
00:36:07,567 --> 00:36:09,967
That's why they brought in
medical doctors,

668
00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:10,638
they brought in, uh,
scientists that were respected

669
00:36:10,638 --> 00:36:12,867
they brought in, uh,
scientists that were respected

670
00:36:12,867 --> 00:36:15,567
in their fields
and consulted with them

671
00:36:15,667 --> 00:36:16,800
whenever they did a case.

672
00:36:18,066 --> 00:36:20,467
[Travis] <i>My brother Duane,</i>
<i>he had contacted</i>

673
00:36:20,567 --> 00:36:22,100
<i>Jim Lorenzen, the head</i>

674
00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:25,467
<i>of the Aerial Phenomena</i>
<i>Research Organization</i>

675
00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:28,000
who had a couple
of medical doctors

676
00:36:28,066 --> 00:36:29,967
in their Phoenix membership

677
00:36:29,967 --> 00:36:32,367
who agreed to do
an examination.

678
00:36:34,467 --> 00:36:35,967
[narrator]
<i>In the dead of night,</i>

679
00:36:35,967 --> 00:36:39,467
<i>Duane Walton secretly sneaks</i>
<i>Travis out of Snowflake.</i>

680
00:36:40,667 --> 00:36:44,100
A.P.R.O. arranged for Travis
to go to a hotel in Phoenix.

681
00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:46,967
He checked in
under an assumed name

682
00:36:46,967 --> 00:36:49,100
<i>and then they sent over</i>
<i>two A.P.R.O.</i>

683
00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:50,767
<i>affiliated medical doctors.</i>

684
00:36:52,266 --> 00:36:53,767
[Don]
<i>They didn't want any leaks</i>

685
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,800
of what was happening
with Travis

686
00:36:56,867 --> 00:36:59,166
with his, uh,
medical condition,

687
00:36:59,266 --> 00:37:01,200
and, and all the testing.

688
00:37:03,266 --> 00:37:05,567
[narrator] <i>Before medical</i>
<i>tests are performed,</i>

689
00:37:05,567 --> 00:37:08,166
<i>Travis tell the physicians</i>
<i>what he remembered</i>

690
00:37:08,266 --> 00:37:10,638
<i>from the night</i>
<i>of November 5th, 1975,</i>

691
00:37:10,638 --> 00:37:11,900
<i>from the night</i>
<i>of November 5th, 1975,</i>

692
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,100
<i>starting with the moment</i>
<i>he exited the truck.</i>

693
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:23,500
[Travis] <i>It just was kind</i>
<i>of a... A sort of an impulse.</i>

694
00:37:23,567 --> 00:37:25,000
<i>Seeing this object there...</i>

695
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:28,867
<i>For some reason</i>
<i>I just kind of assumed</i>

696
00:37:28,967 --> 00:37:31,800
that it was gonna take off
before I got very far.

697
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,200
We could hear a real low
rumbling sort of a sound.

698
00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:40,638
Pounding, you know, like
a heartbeat sort of a thing.

699
00:37:40,638 --> 00:37:43,066
Pounding, you know, like
a heartbeat sort of a thing.

700
00:37:44,867 --> 00:37:47,900
And then some real
high frequency
sorts of sounds.

701
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,967
Very hard to describe
these sounds.

702
00:37:53,367 --> 00:37:56,266
The closer I got,
it suddenly got louder,

703
00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,767
and it started to move.

704
00:38:01,567 --> 00:38:05,367
I was startled and out of fear
I just jumped for cover.

705
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:10,638
Then I was figuring out,
"Boy, I've really got myself

706
00:38:10,638 --> 00:38:13,767
Then I was figuring out,
"Boy, I've really got myself

707
00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:15,100
in a bad situation here."

708
00:38:16,567 --> 00:38:19,767
I stood up with the idea
of running back to the truck,

709
00:38:19,767 --> 00:38:22,000
<i>but as soon as I raised up,</i>

710
00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:25,066
that's when I felt
this stunning force.

711
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,667
[narrator] <i>The next thing</i>
<i>Travis remembers</i>

712
00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:40,638
<i>is waking up on the side</i>
<i>of the road five days later.</i>

713
00:38:40,638 --> 00:38:41,467
<i>is waking up on the side</i>
<i>of the road five days later.</i>

714
00:38:44,467 --> 00:38:47,266
<i>To make sense of</i>
<i>the missing time in between,</i>

715
00:38:47,367 --> 00:38:49,867
<i>Travis agrees</i>
<i>to undergo a controversial</i>

716
00:38:49,867 --> 00:38:52,700
<i>technique called</i>
<i>regressive hypnosis.</i>

717
00:38:52,767 --> 00:38:55,667
Regressive hypnosis
has been used, uh,

718
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,166
popularly since
the Betty and Barney Hill

719
00:38:58,266 --> 00:38:59,967
abduction in 1961.

720
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,100
<i>Tapes of Betty and Barney</i>

721
00:39:02,166 --> 00:39:04,800
<i>while abducted are still</i>
<i>chilling even today.</i>

722
00:39:10,867 --> 00:39:12,767
<i>Oh. Oh!</i>

723
00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:22,000
[narrator] <i>An hypnosis session</i>
<i>is scheduled with A.P.R.O.'s</i>

724
00:39:22,066 --> 00:39:24,600
<i>director of research,</i>
<i>Dr. James Harder.</i>

725
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,100
<i>In the meantime,</i>
<i>Travis' doctors perform</i>

726
00:39:29,166 --> 00:39:30,367
<i>a battery of tests.</i>

727
00:39:35,066 --> 00:39:37,867
[Travis] <i>Blood and urine</i>
<i>samples were taken</i>

728
00:39:37,967 --> 00:39:40,638
that were put through
the county medical examiners

729
00:39:40,638 --> 00:39:41,367
that were put through
the county medical examiners

730
00:39:41,467 --> 00:39:45,000
drug screen that's
extremely good at detecting

731
00:39:45,066 --> 00:39:48,467
traces of drugs of
which there were none.

732
00:39:49,967 --> 00:39:53,266
[narrator] <i>Despite</i>
<i>A.P.R.O.'s and the family's</i>
<i>best efforts,</i>

733
00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:57,667
<i>Travis' reappearance does not</i>
<i>remain secret for long.</i>

734
00:39:57,667 --> 00:40:01,500
The operator who
patched Travis through to call

735
00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:05,166
his sister's house
listened in on the call.

736
00:40:05,266 --> 00:40:08,166
<i>Remember, this is 1975,</i>
<i>where they actually did have</i>

737
00:40:08,266 --> 00:40:10,100
<i>operators who patched</i>
<i>people through.</i>

738
00:40:11,266 --> 00:40:13,867
She recognized the name
as he tried to make this,

739
00:40:13,867 --> 00:40:16,600
uh, collect call
from Travis Walton,

740
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:18,100
that this was big news.

741
00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:20,400
So she takes that information

742
00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:23,066
and leaks it
to the sheriff's office.

743
00:40:23,066 --> 00:40:25,467
[Shelley] <i>His family was fully</i>
<i>aware that there had been</i>

744
00:40:25,567 --> 00:40:28,000
an ensuing search for Travis,

745
00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:31,367
and yet they chose not to let
the law enforcement community,

746
00:40:31,467 --> 00:40:34,066
um, know
that he had been found.

747
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,967
[narrator]
<i>Travis' family feels he is</i>

748
00:40:36,967 --> 00:40:39,500
<i>too emotionally unstable</i>
<i>to face questioning</i>

749
00:40:39,567 --> 00:40:40,638
<i>from the sheriff's department.</i>

750
00:40:40,638 --> 00:40:41,000
<i>from the sheriff's department.</i>

751
00:40:41,066 --> 00:40:43,900
<i>For the first few days</i>
<i>after his return,</i>

752
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,100
<i>Travis' brother Duane acts</i>
<i>as the family's spokesperson.</i>

753
00:40:48,166 --> 00:40:50,567
[reporter 3] <i>Obviously, Duane,</i>
<i>you know your own brother</i>

754
00:40:50,567 --> 00:40:51,800
<i>probably better</i>
<i>than anybody else.</i>

755
00:40:51,867 --> 00:40:53,400
<i>Do you believe the story?</i>

756
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,066
<i>I've never seen him</i>
<i>play a practical joke</i>
<i>in his adult life.</i>

757
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,767
[narrator] <i>The veracious media</i>
<i>runs with the story.</i>

758
00:41:01,867 --> 00:41:04,800
<i>Before long,</i>
<i>it's international news.</i>

759
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,700
<i>Well, now the story</i>
<i>that has been hitting</i>

760
00:41:07,767 --> 00:41:09,767
<i>the headlines all over</i>
<i>the United States</i>

761
00:41:09,767 --> 00:41:10,638
<i>is the one we told you</i>
<i>about last week,</i>

762
00:41:10,638 --> 00:41:11,367
<i>is the one we told you</i>
<i>about last week,</i>

763
00:41:11,467 --> 00:41:13,500
<i>of the man who disappeared</i>
<i>after seeing</i>

764
00:41:13,567 --> 00:41:16,000
<i>what his friends</i>
<i>thought was a flying saucer.</i>

765
00:41:16,066 --> 00:41:18,166
<i>After a five days search</i>
<i>by police,</i>

766
00:41:18,166 --> 00:41:21,467
<i>Travis Walton has turned up</i>
<i>unharmed and he says</i>

767
00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:24,567
<i>that he was taken aboard</i>
<i>a spaceship but the police,</i>

768
00:41:24,567 --> 00:41:26,900
<i>of course, no way</i>
<i>of checking his story.</i>

769
00:41:28,567 --> 00:41:30,166
[narrator] <i>As law enforcement</i>

770
00:41:30,166 --> 00:41:34,200
<i>and journalists scramble</i>
<i>hear the story firsthand,</i>

771
00:41:34,266 --> 00:41:38,867
<i>Travis remains sequestered</i>
<i>in a Phoenix hotel room</i>

772
00:41:38,867 --> 00:41:40,638
<i>reliving his experience</i>
<i>of abject horror.</i>

773
00:41:40,638 --> 00:41:44,066
<i>reliving his experience</i>
<i>of abject horror.</i>

774
00:41:47,166 --> 00:41:48,567
[dramatic music playing]

775
00:42:01,266 --> 00:42:04,033
[narrator]
<i>On November 14th, 1975,</i>

776
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:07,266
<i>four days after his return,</i>
<i>Travis Walton</i>

777
00:42:07,266 --> 00:42:08,934
<i>meets with Dr. James Harder</i>

778
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,667
<i>at the Aerial Phenomena</i>
<i>Research Organization</i>

779
00:42:11,767 --> 00:42:13,266
<i>in a Phoenix hotel room.</i>

780
00:42:14,667 --> 00:42:16,567
<i>Surrounded by his loved ones,</i>

781
00:42:16,567 --> 00:42:16,670
<i>Dana and his brother Duane,</i>
<i>Travis prepares to go undergo</i>

782
00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:20,166
<i>Dana and his brother Duane,</i>
<i>Travis prepares to go undergo</i>

783
00:42:20,233 --> 00:42:23,967
<i>a technique called</i>
<i>regressive hypnosis</i>

784
00:42:24,033 --> 00:42:28,100
<i>to help him face</i>
<i>his most petrifying memories.</i>

785
00:42:50,934 --> 00:42:52,934
[fan squeaking]

786
00:42:55,734 --> 00:42:58,867
[narrator]
<i>Physically, Travis is sitting</i>
<i>on the hotel room sofa...</i>

787
00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:05,667
<i>...but mentally, Dr. Harder</i>
<i>takes him back to the moment</i>

788
00:43:05,767 --> 00:43:08,467
<i>he was abducted</i>
<i>on board the alien ship</i>

789
00:43:13,066 --> 00:43:16,670
<i>and the next terrifying</i>
<i>five days of missing time.</i>

790
00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:18,467
<i>and the next terrifying</i>
<i>five days of missing time.</i>

791
00:43:18,567 --> 00:43:22,233
<i>Visualize just what's</i>
<i>in front of you there.</i>

792
00:43:24,166 --> 00:43:26,667
<i>Tell me what it is</i>
<i>that your eyes see.</i>

793
00:43:34,166 --> 00:43:36,166
[Travis] <i>I was laying</i>
<i>on my back.</i>

794
00:43:37,567 --> 00:43:39,266
<i>I came to slowly...</i>

795
00:43:40,667 --> 00:43:42,967
<i>At first I thought</i>
<i>I was in a hospital.</i>

796
00:43:44,266 --> 00:43:46,670
I felt like there was
something seriously wrong.

797
00:43:46,670 --> 00:43:47,133
I felt like there was
something seriously wrong.

798
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,600
<i>There was a light above me.</i>

799
00:43:51,667 --> 00:43:54,667
It wasn't so bright I couldn't
look at it, but it sort of,

800
00:43:54,734 --> 00:43:58,467
uh, interfered with seeing
other things around me.

801
00:44:00,266 --> 00:44:03,767
<i>But I was looking around</i>
<i>to see where I was.</i>

802
00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:09,367
It was a very small space,

803
00:44:09,467 --> 00:44:12,967
but there was something lying
on my chest.

804
00:44:14,467 --> 00:44:16,670
There seem to be,
you know, some kind of, uh,

805
00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:17,033
There seem to be,
you know, some kind of, uh,

806
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:18,500
light coming from it.

807
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:24,667
<i>When I looked beyond</i>
<i>the edge of that, I saw faces,</i>

808
00:44:24,734 --> 00:44:28,033
<i>but it was so blurry</i>
<i>that I kind of assumed</i>

809
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:32,066
it was like, uh, doctors
wearing, uh, surgical masks.

810
00:44:33,066 --> 00:44:35,033
<i>It was only a matter</i>
<i>of seconds</i>

811
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,600
before I realized that these
weren't human doctors.

812
00:44:39,834 --> 00:44:41,367
<i>This was an alien face.</i>

813
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,670
<i>They were about five</i>
<i>foot tall, no hair,</i>

814
00:44:46,670 --> 00:44:48,367
<i>They were about five</i>
<i>foot tall, no hair,</i>

815
00:44:48,834 --> 00:44:50,600
<i>very white skin,</i>

816
00:44:50,667 --> 00:44:53,867
<i>small features</i>
<i>except for large eyes.</i>

817
00:44:55,867 --> 00:44:58,266
[narrator] <i>The beings</i>
<i>Travis encounters,</i>

818
00:44:58,266 --> 00:45:00,400
<i>they're a striking resemblance</i>

819
00:45:00,467 --> 00:45:05,266
<i>to grey aliens reported in</i>
<i>other UFO abduction stories.</i>

820
00:45:06,166 --> 00:45:08,834
Greys are the most
common description

821
00:45:08,834 --> 00:45:11,467
of some of these others
that have been visiting us.

822
00:45:12,734 --> 00:45:14,867
<i>Three and a half</i>
<i>to four feet tall,</i>

823
00:45:14,934 --> 00:45:16,467
<i>big black eyes,</i>

824
00:45:16,567 --> 00:45:16,670
<i>larger heads,</i>
<i>not much of a nose,</i>

825
00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:18,567
<i>larger heads,</i>
<i>not much of a nose,</i>

826
00:45:18,667 --> 00:45:20,066
<i>not much of a mouth.</i>

827
00:45:20,133 --> 00:45:23,066
Spindly little things,
that's what he saw.

828
00:45:26,967 --> 00:45:30,166
[narrator] <i>To Travis,</i>
<i>this strange appearance</i>

829
00:45:30,233 --> 00:45:34,567
<i>and blank expressions</i>
<i>are unnerving.</i>

830
00:45:34,567 --> 00:45:38,567
[Travis] <i>The feeling of pain,</i>
<i>the feeling of suffocation,</i>

831
00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:42,166
<i>at the same time</i>
<i>they expressed no emotion</i>

832
00:45:42,266 --> 00:45:43,266
to their face.

833
00:45:43,266 --> 00:45:44,467
It seemed threatening.

834
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:46,670
<i>I just freaked out</i>
<i>at that point.</i>

835
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:47,367
<i>I just freaked out</i>
<i>at that point.</i>

836
00:45:49,367 --> 00:45:51,600
<i>And jumped off</i>
<i>of the table there.</i>

837
00:45:53,266 --> 00:45:56,467
And when I did,
this device fell off.

838
00:45:57,767 --> 00:46:01,467
[narrator] <i>Travis' survival</i>
<i>instincts kick in full force.</i>

839
00:46:01,567 --> 00:46:03,266
[Travis] <i>It was were just</i>
<i>fight or flight</i>

840
00:46:04,166 --> 00:46:06,967
<i>and I grabbed, um, rod or tube</i>

841
00:46:07,033 --> 00:46:09,600
and just started swinging
to the air.

842
00:46:11,467 --> 00:46:14,367
The only opening in
the room was beyond them.

843
00:46:17,667 --> 00:46:19,467
[narrator] <i>Suddenly</i>
<i>and without warning,</i>

844
00:46:19,467 --> 00:46:21,500
<i>the aliens change course.</i>

845
00:46:23,066 --> 00:46:24,367
[Travis] <i>They left the room.</i>

846
00:46:25,233 --> 00:46:26,467
<i>I was afraid they'd come back,</i>

847
00:46:26,567 --> 00:46:31,233
<i>so I left there, uh,</i>
<i>looking for a way out.</i>

848
00:46:38,667 --> 00:46:42,867
The whole craft was lit up
in a way that I would consider

849
00:46:42,934 --> 00:46:46,467
<i>to be pretty, pretty dim by,</i>
<i>you know, human standards.</i>

850
00:46:48,567 --> 00:46:53,133
<i>I felt like there was an</i>
<i>insufficient amount of air.</i>

851
00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:55,667
<i>Like I couldn't get enough</i>
<i>air just breathing.</i>

852
00:46:55,767 --> 00:46:57,867
Air was thin but humid.

853
00:46:59,033 --> 00:47:01,367
[narrator] <i>Struggling to see</i>
<i>and desperate for air,</i>

854
00:47:02,367 --> 00:47:04,367
<i>Travis comes</i>
<i>across another door.</i>

855
00:47:05,667 --> 00:47:09,000
<i>The room appears to be empty</i>
<i>except for a single chair.</i>

856
00:47:10,133 --> 00:47:13,467
<i>As Travis approaches,</i>
<i>he notices the light</i>

857
00:47:13,567 --> 00:47:15,367
<i>in the room shift.</i>

858
00:47:17,066 --> 00:47:19,400
[Travis] <i>There was some</i>
<i>kind of a projection</i>

859
00:47:19,467 --> 00:47:21,767
<i>or some kind</i>
<i>of a viewing thing</i>

860
00:47:21,834 --> 00:47:24,266
<i>in this room where you could</i>
<i>see a map of stars.</i>

861
00:47:27,166 --> 00:47:29,734
The points of lights
that came through it

862
00:47:29,734 --> 00:47:34,767
were not real visible
until I got near the chair.

863
00:47:34,867 --> 00:47:37,567
<i>Away from the chair</i>
<i>the walls didn't seem</i>

864
00:47:37,567 --> 00:47:39,867
<i>to have those points</i>
<i>of lights so much.</i>

865
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,767
[narrator] <i>Could it be</i>
<i>some kind of control room?</i>

866
00:47:44,767 --> 00:47:46,670
<i>Travis looks</i>
<i>for any means of escape.</i>

867
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:47,734
<i>Travis looks</i>
<i>for any means of escape.</i>

868
00:47:47,734 --> 00:47:50,767
[Travis] <i>On the arm of</i>
<i>the chair was a screen</i>

869
00:47:50,834 --> 00:47:55,133
<i>and some colored spots,</i>
<i>uh, I took to be buttons.</i>

870
00:47:56,266 --> 00:47:58,033
<i>I was just thinking</i>
<i>these buttons</i>

871
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,834
might open one of these
doorway looking things.

872
00:48:01,567 --> 00:48:04,967
<i>Foolishly assuming that a door</i>

873
00:48:05,033 --> 00:48:07,467
<i>would just be opened</i>
<i>to the air,</i>

874
00:48:07,567 --> 00:48:09,367
<i>and I could drop</i>
<i>to the ground, you know?</i>

875
00:48:09,467 --> 00:48:11,233
<i>Fifteen-20 feet.</i>

876
00:48:11,233 --> 00:48:14,066
I could handle that
just to get out of there.

877
00:48:15,266 --> 00:48:16,670
[narrator]
<i>The buttons have no effect.</i>

878
00:48:16,670 --> 00:48:17,767
[narrator]
<i>The buttons have no effect.</i>

879
00:48:17,834 --> 00:48:20,667
<i>Travis has no choice but</i>
<i>to look for another way out.</i>

880
00:48:21,867 --> 00:48:25,767
<i>Just then he notices,</i>
<i>he's not alone.</i>

881
00:48:28,166 --> 00:48:31,367
<i>The form looks oddly familiar.</i>

882
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:35,133
<i>Could it be human?</i>

883
00:48:39,066 --> 00:48:41,266
<i>In a Phoenix hotel room,</i>

884
00:48:41,333 --> 00:48:44,934
<i>Travis Walton's loved ones</i>
<i>sit in stunned silence</i>

885
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,533
<i>as he recounts</i>
<i>the traumatic nightmare</i>

886
00:48:47,533 --> 00:48:50,767
<i>of being trapped aboard a UFO.</i>

887
00:48:54,533 --> 00:48:55,934
I didn't actually
hear the story

888
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,433
until he was put
under hypnosis,

889
00:48:58,433 --> 00:49:00,233
and I was in the room
with him when...

890
00:49:00,233 --> 00:49:02,867
So when he told
the story it was really...

891
00:49:02,934 --> 00:49:06,934
Shocking, it was scary to me,
what he had to go through.

892
00:49:10,734 --> 00:49:13,266
[narrator] <i>After trying</i>
<i>in vain to open a doorway</i>

893
00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:14,667
<i>or escape hatch,</i>

894
00:49:14,767 --> 00:49:17,867
<i>Travis has no choice</i>
<i>but to return to the corridor</i>

895
00:49:17,934 --> 00:49:20,767
<i>and search</i>
<i>for another means of escape,</i>

896
00:49:20,834 --> 00:49:25,567
<i>only this time,</i>
<i>there's something or someone</i>

897
00:49:25,634 --> 00:49:27,667
<i>blocking his way.</i>

898
00:49:27,767 --> 00:49:31,100
[Travis] <i>There was</i>
<i>a what I took to be</i>
<i>a human being.</i>

899
00:49:32,634 --> 00:49:36,166
I immediately just assume
this was air force, NASA,

900
00:49:36,233 --> 00:49:37,047
somebody, you know,
there to intervene

901
00:49:37,047 --> 00:49:39,100
somebody, you know,
there to intervene

902
00:49:39,166 --> 00:49:42,166
and, uh, take me away
from these creatures.

903
00:49:45,667 --> 00:49:48,367
[narrator] <i>In a rare,</i>
<i>archival interview,</i>

904
00:49:48,433 --> 00:49:51,667
<i>Travis describes</i>
<i>his encounter with the being.</i>

905
00:49:52,767 --> 00:49:55,834
<i>This was a...</i>
<i>A human-looking person.</i>

906
00:49:56,867 --> 00:49:59,967
<i>They'd pass in a crowd</i>
<i>as an individual.</i>

907
00:50:02,033 --> 00:50:05,467
<i>He was bigger than me,</i>
<i>taller, and more muscular.</i>

908
00:50:05,533 --> 00:50:07,047
<i>Very large individual.</i>

909
00:50:07,047 --> 00:50:07,433
<i>Very large individual.</i>

910
00:50:07,433 --> 00:50:12,467
<i>I went up and, uh,</i>
<i>tried to talk to this guy</i>

911
00:50:13,266 --> 00:50:15,667
<i>and, uh, he didn't answer me.</i>

912
00:50:17,133 --> 00:50:19,166
<i>When I started</i>
<i>yelling questions,</i>

913
00:50:19,233 --> 00:50:21,066
<i>trying to tell him,</i>
<i>"What are these things?</i>

914
00:50:21,133 --> 00:50:22,634
<i>Where am I?" You know,</i>

915
00:50:22,634 --> 00:50:23,767
"Get me out of here."

916
00:50:23,834 --> 00:50:26,066
All those kind of things,
he didn't really seem to,

917
00:50:26,133 --> 00:50:28,100
uh, be responding
to anything I was saying.

918
00:50:29,867 --> 00:50:32,333
[narrator] <i>Instead,</i>
<i>the suited stranger</i>

919
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,100
<i>takes Travis by the arm</i>

920
00:50:34,166 --> 00:50:37,047
<i>and escorts him further down</i>
<i>the corridor.</i>

921
00:50:37,047 --> 00:50:37,767
<i>and escorts him further down</i>
<i>the corridor.</i>

922
00:50:37,867 --> 00:50:39,967
[Travis] <i>I went down</i>
<i>the hallway with him,</i>

923
00:50:40,033 --> 00:50:43,934
very dimly lit,
but lit from above.

924
00:50:45,166 --> 00:50:47,133
<i>When we came to a door,</i>

925
00:50:48,266 --> 00:50:50,767
<i>I did not see</i>
<i>this human-looking individual</i>

926
00:50:50,867 --> 00:50:53,367
do anything to make
the door open, but it did.

927
00:50:54,467 --> 00:50:57,333
[narrator] <i>Travis</i>
<i>and his enigmatic escort</i>

928
00:50:57,333 --> 00:51:01,567
<i>entered what appears to be</i>
<i>some kind of an air lock.</i>

929
00:51:01,634 --> 00:51:05,667
We went into
a little booth-like section
of the hallway.

930
00:51:09,266 --> 00:51:11,333
[narrator]
<i>Then, Travis is overcome</i>

931
00:51:11,333 --> 00:51:13,767
<i>by a sudden shift</i>
<i>in the environment.</i>

932
00:51:15,033 --> 00:51:16,867
[Travis] <i>I could feel</i>
<i>that the air</i>

933
00:51:16,934 --> 00:51:18,433
<i>coming in was cooler.</i>

934
00:51:19,233 --> 00:51:21,533
I could breathe better,

935
00:51:21,533 --> 00:51:25,533
and that the outside light
was so much brighter
by comparison.

936
00:51:29,567 --> 00:51:31,467
[narrator] <i>Travis</i>
<i>describes being ushered</i>

937
00:51:31,567 --> 00:51:34,000
<i>from something</i>
<i>like an alien aircraft hanger</i>

938
00:51:34,066 --> 00:51:36,967
<i>in the seldom</i>
<i>seen BBC documentary.</i>

939
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,266
[Travis] <i>He let me out</i>
<i>of this craft,</i>

940
00:51:42,367 --> 00:51:45,433
<i>which appeared to be</i>
<i>parked inside of a,</i>

941
00:51:45,433 --> 00:51:48,266
<i>a larger building,</i>
<i>or a larger craft.</i>

942
00:51:48,367 --> 00:51:49,667
<i>He just took me</i>
<i>right out of there</i>

943
00:51:50,533 --> 00:51:52,333
<i>down a hallway to a room</i>

944
00:51:52,333 --> 00:51:54,767
<i>where there were some other</i>
<i>people who looked like him.</i>

945
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,433
[narrator] <i>These two beings</i>
<i>are not wearing helmets,</i>

946
00:52:00,433 --> 00:52:02,166
<i>giving Travis a clear look</i>

947
00:52:02,266 --> 00:52:07,047
<i>at what ufologists refer</i>
<i>to as "Nordic aliens."</i>

948
00:52:07,047 --> 00:52:07,266
<i>at what ufologists refer</i>
<i>to as "Nordic aliens."</i>

949
00:52:07,367 --> 00:52:12,266
<i>Tall, human-like figures,</i>
<i>Scandinavian in appearance.</i>

950
00:52:13,667 --> 00:52:15,934
In the pantheon
of aliens that keep getting

951
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,367
described by people
who have had

952
00:52:17,433 --> 00:52:20,834
abduction experiences you have
primarily the greys...

953
00:52:24,767 --> 00:52:26,734
...but you also have something
called the Nordic.

954
00:52:26,734 --> 00:52:30,133
The Nordic has come
to represent basically

955
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:33,033
a human-looking alien.

956
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:37,047
In Travis' case, the Nordic
he saw was about six feet
two inches tall,

957
00:52:37,047 --> 00:52:38,467
In Travis' case, the Nordic
he saw was about six feet
two inches tall,

958
00:52:38,567 --> 00:52:42,000
<i>kind of brownish,</i>
<i>blondish hair.</i>

959
00:52:42,066 --> 00:52:45,734
Basically, like a Caucasian.
Could've been from Sweden.

960
00:52:49,367 --> 00:52:51,867
[narrator] <i>Travis' attention</i>
<i>quickly shifts</i>

961
00:52:51,967 --> 00:52:55,100
<i>to an examination table</i>
<i>in the center of the room.</i>

962
00:52:56,233 --> 00:52:58,567
<i>The mysterious being</i>
<i>in the space suit</i>

963
00:52:59,266 --> 00:53:00,667
<i>pushes him toward it.</i>

964
00:53:01,734 --> 00:53:03,467
[Travis] <i>He seemed to be</i>
<i>trying to get me</i>

965
00:53:03,533 --> 00:53:05,367
<i>to get on the table</i>

966
00:53:05,433 --> 00:53:07,047
and I was very much
resisting that.

967
00:53:07,047 --> 00:53:07,767
and I was very much
resisting that.

968
00:53:07,867 --> 00:53:12,233
I became alarmed that he was
not answering my questions.

969
00:53:12,233 --> 00:53:14,233
I was obviously terrified
and asking,

970
00:53:14,233 --> 00:53:16,033
"Where are you taking me?
What's this all about?"

971
00:53:17,166 --> 00:53:19,667
[narrator] <i>Travis fights</i>
<i>with all his might,</i>

972
00:53:19,734 --> 00:53:22,634
<i>but the Nordics step in</i>
<i>and overpower him</i>

973
00:53:22,634 --> 00:53:24,567
<i>with superhuman strength.</i>

974
00:53:26,166 --> 00:53:28,667
[Travis] <i>Very frightening,</i>
<i>I was fighting back</i>

975
00:53:28,734 --> 00:53:30,867
<i>immediately,</i>
<i>no longer cooperating.</i>

976
00:53:30,967 --> 00:53:34,066
I thought I was pretty
strong in those days,

977
00:53:34,133 --> 00:53:37,047
but they didn't have too much
trouble getting me down
on the table.

978
00:53:37,047 --> 00:53:37,066
but they didn't have too much
trouble getting me down
on the table.

979
00:53:44,433 --> 00:53:46,166
<i>They put this mask</i>
<i>over my face,</i>

980
00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:48,233
<i>it's kind of like</i>
<i>an oxygen mask.</i>

981
00:53:48,233 --> 00:53:50,000
<i>There was no hose</i>
<i>connected to it,</i>

982
00:53:50,066 --> 00:53:51,266
<i>they put it over my face</i>

983
00:53:51,333 --> 00:53:53,834
and that was the last thing
I knew, I just blacked out.

984
00:54:02,667 --> 00:54:05,266
<i>Next thing</i>
<i>I remember was waking up</i>

985
00:54:06,467 --> 00:54:07,047
<i>outside, cold air</i>

986
00:54:07,047 --> 00:54:08,367
<i>outside, cold air</i>

987
00:54:09,767 --> 00:54:11,266
<i>coming into my clothes.</i>

988
00:54:19,667 --> 00:54:21,433
[narrator] <i>In a Phoenix</i>
<i>hotel room,</i>

989
00:54:21,433 --> 00:54:23,467
<i>Travis awakens from a trance,</i>

990
00:54:24,734 --> 00:54:28,467
<i>after recounting his harrowing</i>
<i>alien abduction experience.</i>

991
00:54:29,867 --> 00:54:33,433
<i>And to his loved ones,</i>
<i>it's clear</i>

992
00:54:33,433 --> 00:54:36,567
<i>Travis will never be the same.</i>

993
00:54:36,634 --> 00:54:37,047
[Dana] <i>He seemed</i>
<i>really different.</i>

994
00:54:37,047 --> 00:54:38,867
[Dana] <i>He seemed</i>
<i>really different.</i>

995
00:54:38,967 --> 00:54:43,166
He seemed traumatized,
he seemed kind of scared.

996
00:54:43,233 --> 00:54:45,166
I felt sorry for him in a way,

997
00:54:45,233 --> 00:54:48,266
like I wanted to help him,
but I felt helpless.

998
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:50,634
Like, I couldn't do
anything for him.

999
00:54:50,634 --> 00:54:53,333
[narrator] <i>But a trauma</i>
<i>of alien contact</i>

1000
00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:55,166
<i>was just the beginning.</i>

1001
00:54:55,233 --> 00:54:58,734
<i>Travis' story would spark</i>
<i>a firestorm of debate</i>

1002
00:54:58,734 --> 00:55:00,967
<i>and speculation that ignites</i>

1003
00:55:01,033 --> 00:55:05,767
<i>the town of Snowflake</i>
<i>and engulfs the entire world.</i>

1004
00:55:10,867 --> 00:55:12,433
[dramatic music playing]

1005
00:55:18,266 --> 00:55:19,867
<i>After a strenuous battery</i>

1006
00:55:19,967 --> 00:55:22,667
<i>of medical tests</i>
<i>and regressive hypnotherapy</i>

1007
00:55:22,734 --> 00:55:28,467
<i>in Phoenix, Travis Walton</i>
<i>returns home to Snowflake.</i>

1008
00:55:31,533 --> 00:55:34,667
[Don] <i>When I saw Travis</i>
<i>the next time, he was...</i>

1009
00:55:35,266 --> 00:55:37,367
<i>He was skinny.</i>

1010
00:55:37,433 --> 00:55:40,573
But the relief and the joy
that I saw on our mother

1011
00:55:40,573 --> 00:55:42,233
But the relief and the joy
that I saw on our mother

1012
00:55:43,166 --> 00:55:44,367
<i>was awesome.</i>

1013
00:55:44,433 --> 00:55:46,166
<i>How she just stood there</i>
<i>and cried.</i>

1014
00:55:47,367 --> 00:55:49,467
And my mother didn't cry
about anything.

1015
00:55:50,367 --> 00:55:52,567
But over that
she certainly did.

1016
00:55:52,667 --> 00:55:56,667
We thought we had lost
a family member.

1017
00:56:00,867 --> 00:56:02,166
[narrator] <i>The media frenzy,</i>

1018
00:56:02,233 --> 00:56:04,100
<i>sparked by</i>
<i>the abduction story,</i>

1019
00:56:04,166 --> 00:56:07,133
<i>only intensifies as</i>
<i>Travis re-emerges.</i>

1020
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,573
[Don] <i>Oh, it was a circus.</i>

1021
00:56:10,573 --> 00:56:11,867
[Don] <i>Oh, it was a circus.</i>

1022
00:56:11,934 --> 00:56:14,934
Mother didn't have a fence
around our front yard.

1023
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,367
<i>There was probably</i>
<i>100 people out there.</i>

1024
00:56:17,433 --> 00:56:19,767
<i>Reporters, all kinds</i>
<i>of cameras.</i>

1025
00:56:20,867 --> 00:56:22,166
[narrator]
<i>In an effort to keep</i>

1026
00:56:22,266 --> 00:56:26,667
<i>the camera hounds at bay,</i>
<i>a still traumatized Travis</i>

1027
00:56:26,767 --> 00:56:29,367
<i>reluctantly grants</i>
<i>his first interviews.</i>

1028
00:56:32,667 --> 00:56:34,367
[Barbara Frum]
<i>Mr. Walton, how are you?</i>

1029
00:56:34,467 --> 00:56:35,767
[Travis] <i>I'm feeling</i>
<i>a lot better.</i>

1030
00:56:36,467 --> 00:56:38,166
[Barbara] <i>Where were you?</i>

1031
00:56:38,233 --> 00:56:39,667
[Travis] <i>I don't know.</i>
[chuckles softly]

1032
00:56:42,133 --> 00:56:43,867
[interviewer] <i>Did you tried</i>
<i>to communicate with them?</i>

1033
00:56:43,967 --> 00:56:46,767
<i>Well, I tried</i>
<i>to communicate with them</i>

1034
00:56:46,867 --> 00:56:48,100
<i>but there was no answer.</i>

1035
00:56:48,166 --> 00:56:50,066
<i>They never talked to me</i>
<i>or anything.</i>

1036
00:56:51,433 --> 00:56:53,000
[narrator]
<i>The unwanted scrutiny</i>

1037
00:56:53,066 --> 00:56:55,166
<i>pushes the town's people</i>
<i>to the brink.</i>

1038
00:56:56,634 --> 00:56:59,767
[Shelley] <i>I thought</i>
<i>the media attention</i>
<i>was insane.</i>

1039
00:56:59,834 --> 00:57:01,667
There was
so much interest in it,

1040
00:57:01,734 --> 00:57:04,433
and at the time I just
remember thinking to myself,

1041
00:57:04,433 --> 00:57:07,533
"How can these people
really believe this story?"
You know.

1042
00:57:07,533 --> 00:57:09,000
<i>Kinda skeptical.</i>

1043
00:57:09,066 --> 00:57:10,573
<i>You know, seeing is believing,</i>
<i>and I don't see nothing.</i>

1044
00:57:10,573 --> 00:57:12,166
<i>You know, seeing is believing,</i>
<i>and I don't see nothing.</i>

1045
00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:16,166
It was the talk
of the town for a long time,

1046
00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:19,467
<i>and I think there were people</i>
<i>that believed in UFOs</i>

1047
00:57:19,533 --> 00:57:23,767
and people that felt that
people that believed in UFOs
were crazy.

1048
00:57:26,867 --> 00:57:28,567
I didn't know
if I went to a bar

1049
00:57:28,634 --> 00:57:30,533
if somebody's gonna
buy me a beer or,

1050
00:57:30,533 --> 00:57:32,367
or take
a punch at me, you now.

1051
00:57:32,433 --> 00:57:34,033
[narrator]
<i>New rumors circulate</i>

1052
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:36,033
<i>that this was all a hoax.</i>

1053
00:57:36,967 --> 00:57:39,867
<i>The crew,</i>
<i>once suspected of murder,</i>

1054
00:57:39,934 --> 00:57:40,573
<i>now find themselves</i>
<i>scrutinized alongside</i>
<i>Travis' family,</i>

1055
00:57:40,573 --> 00:57:44,166
<i>now find themselves</i>
<i>scrutinized alongside</i>
<i>Travis' family,</i>

1056
00:57:44,266 --> 00:57:47,667
<i>accused of pulling off</i>
<i>a massive con.</i>

1057
00:57:50,767 --> 00:57:52,467
[Steve] <i>You couldn't</i>
<i>walk through town</i>

1058
00:57:52,533 --> 00:57:54,100
<i>without people looking at you.</i>

1059
00:57:54,166 --> 00:57:57,000
When he came back they thought
it was a big ole joke.

1060
00:57:59,667 --> 00:58:02,133
[John] <i>Ten days after that</i>
<i>happened I left the area.</i>

1061
00:58:02,867 --> 00:58:05,367
Went somewhere where
nobody knew me

1062
00:58:05,467 --> 00:58:08,266
and didn't know my involvement
in that and never told a soul.

1063
00:58:09,467 --> 00:58:10,573
[Don] <i>It was tough.</i>

1064
00:58:10,573 --> 00:58:10,734
[Don] <i>It was tough.</i>

1065
00:58:11,667 --> 00:58:14,367
<i>I think people looked at us</i>
<i>in a way</i>

1066
00:58:14,467 --> 00:58:17,667
that we were
putting on a show.

1067
00:58:20,734 --> 00:58:22,567
[narrator] <i>Chief among</i>
<i>the skeptics</i>

1068
00:58:22,667 --> 00:58:26,767
<i>is a man who would become</i>
<i>Travis Walton's nemesis.</i>

1069
00:58:26,834 --> 00:58:30,767
<i>The king of UFO debunkers,</i>
<i>Phillip Klass.</i>

1070
00:58:31,767 --> 00:58:33,533
[Ben] <i>Phillip Klass</i>
<i>is probably</i>

1071
00:58:33,533 --> 00:58:38,100
the most well-renowned
UFO skeptic, uh,

1072
00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:40,573
debunker, uh,
maybe of all history.

1073
00:58:40,573 --> 00:58:41,667
debunker, uh,
maybe of all history.

1074
00:58:41,767 --> 00:58:44,033
He had devoted
a great deal of time

1075
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:46,667
and as a matter of fact had
written books ridiculing

1076
00:58:46,767 --> 00:58:50,133
the idea that UFOs should be
considered serious at all.

1077
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:54,634
<i>In my opinion,</i>
<i>the belief in UFOs</i>

1078
00:58:54,634 --> 00:58:57,767
<i>will persist as long as there</i>
<i>are people on this earth,</i>

1079
00:58:58,467 --> 00:59:00,233
<i>uh, but it is a myth.</i>

1080
00:59:01,867 --> 00:59:06,734
[Bryce] <i>Now, Phillip Klass</i>
<i>was a very bright man,</i>
<i>a journalist.</i>

1081
00:59:06,734 --> 00:59:10,433
He just didn't buy
the Travis Walton story.

1082
00:59:10,433 --> 00:59:10,573
He thought these guys
made it up,

1083
00:59:10,573 --> 00:59:12,867
He thought these guys
made it up,

1084
00:59:12,934 --> 00:59:16,233
and he set out to prove
that anyway that he could.

1085
00:59:16,233 --> 00:59:18,100
[narrator] <i>Klass does</i>
<i>extensive research</i>

1086
00:59:18,166 --> 00:59:21,433
<i>into the Walton story</i>
<i>and claims the crew</i>

1087
00:59:21,433 --> 00:59:25,000
<i>led by Mike Rogers</i>
<i>concocted the UFO scheme</i>

1088
00:59:25,066 --> 00:59:27,667
<i>to get out of their</i>
<i>logging contract.</i>

1089
00:59:27,767 --> 00:59:31,567
We had completed
probably over 80%
of the contract,

1090
00:59:31,634 --> 00:59:34,767
but we were also nearing
the completion deadline

1091
00:59:34,867 --> 00:59:36,734
<i>on the contract.</i>

1092
00:59:36,734 --> 00:59:39,000
[Angie] <i>And they wanted to</i>
<i>get it done before the snow</i>

1093
00:59:39,066 --> 00:59:40,573
<i>started coming because</i>
<i>this was in November.</i>

1094
00:59:40,573 --> 00:59:41,867
<i>started coming because</i>
<i>this was in November.</i>

1095
00:59:41,967 --> 00:59:45,667
So they were trying to hurry
up and get it done before
it defaulted.

1096
00:59:45,767 --> 00:59:47,567
[Travis] <i>The skeptics made</i>
<i>much of this</i>

1097
00:59:47,634 --> 00:59:50,266
that this whole things
was some kind of a scheme

1098
00:59:50,333 --> 00:59:52,567
to get out of, uh,
finishing the contract,

1099
00:59:52,634 --> 00:59:55,767
but it was not at all
to Mike's advantage

1100
00:59:55,867 --> 00:59:57,567
<i>for the contract to end.</i>

1101
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,000
<i>There was a lot of money</i>
<i>being held back.</i>

1102
01:00:02,333 --> 01:00:04,166
<i>And we had completed</i>
<i>most of it,</i>

1103
01:00:05,266 --> 01:00:08,166
but once the incident happened
there was no way

1104
01:00:08,233 --> 01:00:10,233
that the contract
was gonna get finished.

1105
01:00:11,667 --> 01:00:13,266
[Angie] <i>After that happened,</i>

1106
01:00:13,333 --> 01:00:16,333
Mike couldn't get that crew
to go back out there.

1107
01:00:16,333 --> 01:00:18,367
Maybe some of them
might've been willing,

1108
01:00:18,467 --> 01:00:20,333
but most of them were not.

1109
01:00:22,767 --> 01:00:25,467
[Travis] <i>They brought</i>
<i>in another crew</i>

1110
01:00:25,533 --> 01:00:27,567
to finish
what little we had left.

1111
01:00:27,667 --> 01:00:31,033
Much to Mike's
financial disadvantage.

1112
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:34,467
[narrator] <i>And if</i>
<i>Mike Rogers did think up</i>
<i>the UFO story,</i>

1113
01:00:35,567 --> 01:00:37,367
<i>how did he get</i>
<i>his six crewmates</i>

1114
01:00:37,433 --> 01:00:39,934
<i>to go along with his</i>
<i>farfetched scheme?</i>

1115
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,934
[Bryce] <i>If you really think</i>
<i>about it,</i>

1116
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,867
the idea that you would
conspire with, uh, six
or seven people

1117
01:00:46,967 --> 01:00:49,767
to tell an outrageous story
that would cause people

1118
01:00:49,867 --> 01:00:51,767
to think you might be
a murderer,

1119
01:00:51,867 --> 01:00:53,367
it just defies logic.

1120
01:00:54,433 --> 01:00:56,467
[narrator] <i>The level of</i>
<i>criticism he and the crew</i>

1121
01:00:56,567 --> 01:01:00,333
<i>faced is yet another shock</i>
<i>to Travis and his family.</i>

1122
01:01:01,467 --> 01:01:03,467
I don't like it
when people came out

1123
01:01:03,533 --> 01:01:04,867
with accusations against him.

1124
01:01:04,934 --> 01:01:06,233
I knew he was telling
the truth,

1125
01:01:06,233 --> 01:01:09,634
I believed him
and that was it.

1126
01:01:12,166 --> 01:01:14,567
[Travis] <i>Well,</i>
<i>there was from the get-go</i>

1127
01:01:14,634 --> 01:01:16,767
<i>a great deal of resistance.</i>

1128
01:01:16,834 --> 01:01:20,033
The idea that there
could be any life

1129
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,233
in the universe,
other than human life.

1130
01:01:24,734 --> 01:01:28,000
<i>And I think that's</i>
<i>a very close minded</i>

1131
01:01:28,066 --> 01:01:29,467
<i>and limited thinking.</i>

1132
01:01:30,867 --> 01:01:36,233
<i>It's maybe partially</i>
<i>motivated out of fear</i>
<i>or people</i>

1133
01:01:36,233 --> 01:01:39,533
feeling that it was a threat
to religious convictions.

1134
01:01:40,567 --> 01:01:40,573
<i>But whatever it was,</i>
<i>many of the accusations</i>

1135
01:01:40,573 --> 01:01:45,233
<i>But whatever it was,</i>
<i>many of the accusations</i>

1136
01:01:45,233 --> 01:01:49,233
<i>that were levied</i>
<i>were easily disproved</i>

1137
01:01:50,467 --> 01:01:54,166
because they were contraries
to verifiable facts.

1138
01:01:56,033 --> 01:01:57,934
[narrator] <i>Yet some</i>
<i>allegations would haunt</i>

1139
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,433
<i>Travis Walton for years,</i>
<i>leading him to wonder</i>

1140
01:02:02,433 --> 01:02:05,767
<i>if there's a coordinated</i>
<i>campaign underway</i>

1141
01:02:05,834 --> 01:02:07,533
<i>to discredit him,</i>

1142
01:02:07,533 --> 01:02:10,573
<i>and if so, who's behind it?</i>

1143
01:02:10,573 --> 01:02:10,767
<i>and if so, who's behind it?</i>

1144
01:02:17,567 --> 01:02:19,133
[instrumental music playing]

1145
01:02:22,433 --> 01:02:24,634
<i>In Snowflake, Arizona,</i>

1146
01:02:24,634 --> 01:02:28,166
<i>alien abductee Travis Walton</i>
<i>and his loved ones</i>

1147
01:02:28,266 --> 01:02:31,767
<i>struggle to get some</i>
<i>semblance of normal life.</i>

1148
01:02:33,834 --> 01:02:35,667
About two years later
we were married.

1149
01:02:37,867 --> 01:02:40,166
<i>We dated steady</i>
<i>for those two years.</i>

1150
01:02:41,567 --> 01:02:43,433
<i>Fell in love</i>
<i>and decided to get married.</i>

1151
01:02:44,634 --> 01:02:44,731
We tried to make it
like nothing happened,

1152
01:02:44,731 --> 01:02:47,133
We tried to make it
like nothing happened,

1153
01:02:47,133 --> 01:02:48,634
so we didn't talk
about it a lot.

1154
01:02:51,133 --> 01:02:52,834
[narrator] <i>But try</i>
<i>as they might,</i>

1155
01:02:52,834 --> 01:02:55,266
<i>Travis and Dana</i>
<i>find themselves hounded</i>

1156
01:02:55,333 --> 01:02:57,734
<i>by small town gossip.</i>

1157
01:02:57,734 --> 01:02:59,767
You know, I could see
people looking at me

1158
01:02:59,867 --> 01:03:02,567
in the store and I could tell
they were thinking, you know,

1159
01:03:02,667 --> 01:03:04,133
things about me.

1160
01:03:04,133 --> 01:03:06,333
[Ben] <i>And they start</i>
<i>making up rumors</i>

1161
01:03:06,333 --> 01:03:09,667
saying, "Well, the crew was
probably all using drugs.

1162
01:03:09,734 --> 01:03:11,867
They were all hallucinating."

1163
01:03:11,967 --> 01:03:14,233
[Shelley] <i>We're talking</i>
<i>in the '70s</i>

1164
01:03:14,233 --> 01:03:14,731
and what really happened

1165
01:03:14,731 --> 01:03:15,567
and what really happened

1166
01:03:15,667 --> 01:03:18,867
if there was drugs involved,
alcohol or whatever.

1167
01:03:20,133 --> 01:03:22,367
[narrator]
<i>Travis' medical tests reveal</i>

1168
01:03:22,467 --> 01:03:25,634
<i>no sign of drugs</i>
<i>in his system.</i>

1169
01:03:25,634 --> 01:03:29,333
Travis didn't do drugs.
Travis hardly even ever drank.

1170
01:03:29,333 --> 01:03:31,467
If he did, I don't even think
he did drink.

1171
01:03:32,967 --> 01:03:35,233
[John] <i>That job was</i>
<i>pretty dangerous, actually.</i>

1172
01:03:35,233 --> 01:03:38,033
<i>Those chainsaws</i>
<i>don't slice you,</i>

1173
01:03:40,433 --> 01:03:42,567
<i>they tear chunks of meat out.</i>

1174
01:03:42,667 --> 01:03:44,731
You can't get high or drink
and do that job, you know.

1175
01:03:44,731 --> 01:03:45,834
You can't get high or drink
and do that job, you know.

1176
01:03:45,834 --> 01:03:47,367
I don't know
anybody who could.

1177
01:03:50,367 --> 01:03:52,066
[narrator]
<i>Despite the naysayers,</i>

1178
01:03:52,133 --> 01:03:54,734
<i>Travis and the crew</i>
<i>have their champions.</i>

1179
01:03:55,834 --> 01:03:58,033
<i>Most notably groups</i>
<i>like A.P.R.O.,</i>

1180
01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:02,166
<i>who gather and examine</i>
<i>evidence to support</i>
<i>the abduction claims.</i>

1181
01:04:03,033 --> 01:04:04,367
<i>First on their list,</i>

1182
01:04:04,433 --> 01:04:07,166
<i>Travis Walton's</i>
<i>physical condition.</i>

1183
01:04:08,266 --> 01:04:10,567
The people who came
and got Travis Walton

1184
01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:14,731
found a severely dehydrated
guy who didn't look good.

1185
01:04:14,731 --> 01:04:15,266
found a severely dehydrated
guy who didn't look good.

1186
01:04:15,367 --> 01:04:18,767
He was in the same clothes
that he was wearing

1187
01:04:18,834 --> 01:04:20,066
when he had disappeared

1188
01:04:20,133 --> 01:04:22,066
and when they
weighed him later,

1189
01:04:22,133 --> 01:04:25,367
uh, that next morning,
they found out he was
at least ten pounds

1190
01:04:25,467 --> 01:04:28,000
lighter than when he had gone
up in the mountains.

1191
01:04:30,767 --> 01:04:33,533
[narrator] <i>Yet Travis' blood</i>
<i>test provides the A.P.R.O.</i>

1192
01:04:33,533 --> 01:04:36,367
<i>doctors with some</i>
<i>striking information.</i>

1193
01:04:38,033 --> 01:04:40,033
[Travis] <i>Part of, uh,</i>
<i>what they were looking for</i>

1194
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:43,166
was the presence
of what they call ketones,

1195
01:04:43,233 --> 01:04:44,731
which was to indicate
whether my body

1196
01:04:44,731 --> 01:04:46,166
which was to indicate
whether my body

1197
01:04:46,233 --> 01:04:50,433
had been consuming
its own reserves, you know,

1198
01:04:50,433 --> 01:04:53,333
fat, even muscle
in order to maintain life.

1199
01:04:54,266 --> 01:04:56,834
[Ben] <i>He did lose</i>
<i>ten to 12 pounds</i>

1200
01:04:56,834 --> 01:04:58,266
<i>in a short period of time.</i>

1201
01:04:58,367 --> 01:05:00,266
<i>He was severely dehydrated</i>

1202
01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:02,667
but yet no ketones
were present.

1203
01:05:02,767 --> 01:05:07,100
So, it is possible that these
visitors knew enough

1204
01:05:07,166 --> 01:05:08,333
<i>about human biology.</i>

1205
01:05:08,333 --> 01:05:10,767
<i>They tried to nourish him</i>
<i>in some way.</i>

1206
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:13,667
[narrator] <i>And if he</i>
<i>wasn't picked up</i>

1207
01:05:13,734 --> 01:05:14,731
<i>after his crewmates left him</i>
<i>in the woods,</i>

1208
01:05:14,731 --> 01:05:16,166
<i>after his crewmates left him</i>
<i>in the woods,</i>

1209
01:05:16,266 --> 01:05:20,100
<i>how did Travis survive</i>
<i>for those five days?</i>

1210
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,867
To believe he was left out

1211
01:05:23,934 --> 01:05:27,033
in Sitgreaves National Forest,
not only overnight,

1212
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:28,834
but for five days
is outrageous.

1213
01:05:28,834 --> 01:05:31,100
At night it gets very,
very cold.

1214
01:05:31,166 --> 01:05:34,166
The guy had a jean jacket
and, and a pair of jeans on.

1215
01:05:34,233 --> 01:05:36,634
It would've been a tough,
tough things to survive.

1216
01:05:37,767 --> 01:05:40,033
[narrator] <i>A.P.R.O.</i>
<i>researches in Arizona</i>

1217
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:41,567
<i>also uncover evidence</i>

1218
01:05:41,634 --> 01:05:44,731
<i>of an increasing level</i>
<i>of UFO activity</i>

1219
01:05:44,731 --> 01:05:44,734
<i>of an increasing level</i>
<i>of UFO activity</i>

1220
01:05:44,734 --> 01:05:47,867
<i>in the months leading</i>
<i>up to the abduction.</i>

1221
01:05:47,967 --> 01:05:50,467
[Ben] <i>We had an event</i>
<i>that takes place in May,</i>

1222
01:05:50,567 --> 01:05:53,133
<i>just outside</i>
<i>the hills of Tucson.</i>

1223
01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:56,100
We have a mother with her
children who comes across

1224
01:05:56,166 --> 01:06:01,333
a silvery glowing object,
but most interestingly,

1225
01:06:01,333 --> 01:06:04,634
she hears a low rumbling sound

1226
01:06:04,634 --> 01:06:07,734
that's very similar
to what Travis described

1227
01:06:07,734 --> 01:06:09,834
right before this thing
appeared to take off.

1228
01:06:14,266 --> 01:06:14,731
[narrator] <i>Perhaps</i>
<i>the strongest evidence of all</i>

1229
01:06:14,731 --> 01:06:17,867
[narrator] <i>Perhaps</i>
<i>the strongest evidence of all</i>

1230
01:06:17,934 --> 01:06:20,166
<i>comes from</i>
<i>the sheriff's department.</i>

1231
01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:23,767
[Travis] <i>To have six</i>
<i>witnesses all testifying</i>

1232
01:06:23,867 --> 01:06:28,467
in detail to the same events,
and all passing

1233
01:06:28,567 --> 01:06:31,567
lie detector tests
from the state police.

1234
01:06:33,066 --> 01:06:35,033
[Bryce] <i>People have gone</i>
<i>back and forth over the years</i>

1235
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:37,000
<i>about what a polygraph</i>
<i>actually means,</i>

1236
01:06:37,066 --> 01:06:40,467
but one thing we do know,
though, is when somebody
passes it

1237
01:06:40,567 --> 01:06:44,333
and it's just them,
it gives you a certain
amount of legitimacy.

1238
01:06:45,433 --> 01:06:47,066
<i>But when you have six</i>
<i>different people</i>

1239
01:06:47,133 --> 01:06:48,734
<i>taking a lie detector test</i>

1240
01:06:49,734 --> 01:06:51,567
<i>and they all tell</i>
<i>the same story,</i>

1241
01:06:51,667 --> 01:06:54,934
<i>your chances that the story</i>
<i>they're telling is accurate</i>

1242
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,000
is about,
uh, a million to one.

1243
01:06:59,467 --> 01:07:02,233
[Travis] <i>Dr. James Harder,</i>
<i>he was saying</i>

1244
01:07:02,233 --> 01:07:05,433
<i>that the evidence to support</i>
<i>that this really happened</i>

1245
01:07:05,433 --> 01:07:08,333
would've been sufficient
to convict a person

1246
01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:10,867
of murder
in an American court of law.

1247
01:07:12,734 --> 01:07:14,731
[narrator]
<i>On February 7th, 1976,</i>

1248
01:07:14,731 --> 01:07:15,867
[narrator]
<i>On February 7th, 1976,</i>

1249
01:07:15,967 --> 01:07:17,967
<i>Travis and his brother Duane</i>

1250
01:07:18,033 --> 01:07:20,533
<i>take their own</i>
<i>lie detector tests.</i>

1251
01:07:21,433 --> 01:07:24,367
<i>The results shocked everyone.</i>

1252
01:07:29,266 --> 01:07:31,567
<i>In February of 1976,</i>

1253
01:07:31,667 --> 01:07:34,333
<i>Travis Walton</i>
<i>and his brother Duane</i>

1254
01:07:34,333 --> 01:07:36,867
<i>submit to</i>
<i>polygraph examinations.</i>

1255
01:07:39,133 --> 01:07:40,533
<i>They both pass.</i>

1256
01:07:42,367 --> 01:07:44,367
<i>Landing further credibility</i>

1257
01:07:44,433 --> 01:07:46,667
<i>to Travis' UFO</i>
<i>abduction claims.</i>

1258
01:07:54,266 --> 01:07:56,266
<i>For years after the incident,</i>

1259
01:07:56,333 --> 01:07:56,409
<i>Travis and his</i>
<i>six crew members</i>

1260
01:07:56,409 --> 01:07:58,266
<i>Travis and his</i>
<i>six crew members</i>

1261
01:07:58,367 --> 01:08:00,867
<i>never waver from their story.</i>

1262
01:08:00,934 --> 01:08:04,166
<i>Eventually, the tide</i>
<i>of public opinion</i>

1263
01:08:04,233 --> 01:08:06,000
<i>turns in their favor.</i>

1264
01:08:08,266 --> 01:08:12,166
[Bryce] <i>In 1975, when</i>
<i>the Walton case is big news,</i>

1265
01:08:12,233 --> 01:08:16,033
the government's institutional
response to UFOs back then

1266
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:19,333
was, "It's probably not
a real thing, don't sweat it.

1267
01:08:19,333 --> 01:08:20,867
Go on about your lives."

1268
01:08:22,533 --> 01:08:24,166
<i>Now the government</i>
<i>says a couple</i>

1269
01:08:24,266 --> 01:08:25,834
<i>of really profound things.</i>

1270
01:08:25,834 --> 01:08:26,409
First of all, they have
confirmed that there are

1271
01:08:26,409 --> 01:08:28,967
First of all, they have
confirmed that there are

1272
01:08:29,033 --> 01:08:32,266
many objects out there
and that they're real

1273
01:08:32,367 --> 01:08:34,767
and that they're unidentified.

1274
01:08:34,867 --> 01:08:36,967
<i>And secondly, they said,</i>
<i>"We don't make them."</i>

1275
01:08:38,266 --> 01:08:40,834
<i>So, lots of people</i>
<i>believed in them before,</i>

1276
01:08:40,834 --> 01:08:43,166
but now
we have a more of a sense

1277
01:08:43,233 --> 01:08:45,867
they are real because our own
government is admitting it.

1278
01:08:47,767 --> 01:08:49,567
[pilot] <i>Oh, got it!</i>

1279
01:08:55,166 --> 01:08:56,409
[narrator] <i>And the attitude</i>
<i>in the Southwestern state,</i>

1280
01:08:56,409 --> 01:08:58,066
[narrator] <i>And the attitude</i>
<i>in the Southwestern state,</i>

1281
01:08:58,133 --> 01:09:00,734
<i>known for some</i>
<i>of the biggest UFO sightings</i>

1282
01:09:00,734 --> 01:09:03,467
<i>in the world has also changed.</i>

1283
01:09:04,767 --> 01:09:09,667
I've known, uh,
Travis Walton for a long time.

1284
01:09:09,767 --> 01:09:12,967
After seeing UFOs
in New Mexico, Arizona

1285
01:09:13,033 --> 01:09:16,533
and California,
I said, "Well, there must be

1286
01:09:16,533 --> 01:09:18,867
something that,
uh... To what he said."

1287
01:09:20,233 --> 01:09:22,066
I do believe
that there are UFOs.

1288
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:26,266
But you see things
cruising around up there

1289
01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:26,409
it's like,
"What the heck was that?

1290
01:09:26,409 --> 01:09:27,800
it's like,
"What the heck was that?

1291
01:09:27,867 --> 01:09:31,266
No, okay, is that a satellite?
No, it's moving a little bit
too fast."

1292
01:09:31,367 --> 01:09:33,233
[producer] Do you believe
there's something out there?

1293
01:09:33,233 --> 01:09:34,367
I think so.

1294
01:09:37,867 --> 01:09:40,266
Our tales completely
switched around

1295
01:09:40,333 --> 01:09:42,567
where four out of five
people do believe it now.

1296
01:09:42,667 --> 01:09:44,367
Before they didn't.

1297
01:09:44,433 --> 01:09:47,367
You know, it was
exactly the opposite.

1298
01:09:47,433 --> 01:09:51,767
[Steve] <i>I'm sorry that Allen</i>
<i>and Dwayne Smith aren't here,</i>

1299
01:09:51,867 --> 01:09:55,767
because for years people
just thought we were nuts.

1300
01:09:55,867 --> 01:09:56,409
Now, you've got people
who do believe,

1301
01:09:56,409 --> 01:09:59,166
Now, you've got people
who do believe,

1302
01:09:59,233 --> 01:10:03,667
and Allen and Dwayne Smith
aren't here to, to see that.

1303
01:10:05,266 --> 01:10:07,367
[narrator] <i>The shift</i>
<i>in public perception</i>

1304
01:10:07,467 --> 01:10:09,367
<i>began in 1978</i>

1305
01:10:11,467 --> 01:10:13,734
<i>when Travis Walton wrote</i>

1306
01:10:13,734 --> 01:10:16,634
<i>and published a book</i>
<i>about his ordeal.</i>

1307
01:10:18,367 --> 01:10:21,367
<i>The Walton Experience</i>
is the first book written

1308
01:10:21,433 --> 01:10:23,266
by a UFO abductee,

1309
01:10:23,367 --> 01:10:25,834
<i>and it's sort of withstood</i>
<i>the test of time.</i>

1310
01:10:26,934 --> 01:10:28,467
[Ben] <i>My impression</i>
<i>of first reading</i>

1311
01:10:28,567 --> 01:10:31,467
<i>Travis' book,</i>
<i>it was so well written</i>

1312
01:10:31,533 --> 01:10:35,333
that he presents the arguments
before his case

1313
01:10:35,333 --> 01:10:37,266
and against his case

1314
01:10:37,367 --> 01:10:41,634
and takes each individual
criticism and debunks it
one by one.

1315
01:10:43,467 --> 01:10:45,266
[Bryce] <i>What it allowed</i>
<i>readers to do</i>

1316
01:10:45,333 --> 01:10:47,867
<i>for the first time</i>
<i>is to get in his head.</i>

1317
01:10:47,934 --> 01:10:52,066
This is an honest man,
who' trying to tell us

1318
01:10:52,133 --> 01:10:53,734
what really happened to him.

1319
01:10:56,567 --> 01:10:58,667
[narrator] <i>Travis' story</i>
<i>catches the attention</i>

1320
01:10:58,734 --> 01:11:00,367
<i>of Hollywood</i>

1321
01:11:00,467 --> 01:11:03,166
<i>and on March 12th, 1993,</i>

1322
01:11:03,233 --> 01:11:07,433
<i>Paramount Pictures</i>
<i>releases</i> Fire in the Sky.

1323
01:11:09,567 --> 01:11:12,433
<i>A film based on his book.</i>

1324
01:11:12,433 --> 01:11:14,767
[Bryce] <i>Talking about</i>
<i>the Travis Walton abduction,</i>

1325
01:11:14,867 --> 01:11:17,834
there was X-amount of people
that sort of watched it

1326
01:11:17,834 --> 01:11:20,266
when it happened real time
with news coverage,

1327
01:11:20,333 --> 01:11:22,867
there were a few more
that read the book,

1328
01:11:22,967 --> 01:11:26,000
but then there were a lot more
that watched the movie.

1329
01:11:27,066 --> 01:11:29,166
<i>And the people</i>
<i>who watched the movie</i>

1330
01:11:29,266 --> 01:11:31,166
<i>had their minds open</i>

1331
01:11:31,233 --> 01:11:34,233
<i>to the possibility that</i>
<i>an abduction could happen</i>

1332
01:11:34,233 --> 01:11:37,100
because the movie starts with
"based on a true story."

1333
01:11:39,967 --> 01:11:41,367
[Dana]
<i>After the movie was made,</i>

1334
01:11:41,467 --> 01:11:44,033
<i>people became more</i>
<i>and more enlightened I guess.</i>

1335
01:11:44,767 --> 01:11:46,367
<i>More and more people believed.</i>

1336
01:11:46,467 --> 01:11:49,233
And more people came up
to me and said that they
supported us,

1337
01:11:49,233 --> 01:11:51,133
so... That was...
That was great.

1338
01:11:52,233 --> 01:11:53,834
[narrator] <i>The media</i>
<i>forces Travis</i>

1339
01:11:53,834 --> 01:11:56,409
<i>into the spotlight</i>
<i>once more to share</i>

1340
01:11:56,409 --> 01:11:57,066
<i>into the spotlight</i>
<i>once more to share</i>

1341
01:11:57,133 --> 01:12:00,567
<i>the terrifying true story</i>
<i>behind the movie.</i>

1342
01:12:01,467 --> 01:12:04,567
<i>It was glowing,</i>
<i>disk-shaped object.</i>

1343
01:12:04,667 --> 01:12:06,834
<i>Uh, it's kinda, like,</i>
<i>shaped like two pie pans.</i>

1344
01:12:06,834 --> 01:12:09,867
<i>Placed lip to lip</i>
<i>with a dome on top</i>

1345
01:12:09,934 --> 01:12:13,233
<i>and it was glowing,</i>
<i>kind of a golden, uh,</i>
<i>yellow color.</i>

1346
01:12:15,667 --> 01:12:18,066
[narrator]
<i>Like clockwork,</i>
<i>Travis' credibility</i>

1347
01:12:18,133 --> 01:12:19,367
<i>comes under attack.</i>

1348
01:12:20,867 --> 01:12:23,667
<i>All the familiar</i>
<i>skeptics re-emerge,</i>

1349
01:12:23,734 --> 01:12:25,634
<i>including Philip Klass.</i>

1350
01:12:26,667 --> 01:12:29,867
<i>But this time,</i>
<i>Travis has the last word.</i>

1351
01:12:32,367 --> 01:12:34,567
<i>Are you saying,</i>
<i>Phillip, that all seven</i>

1352
01:12:34,667 --> 01:12:36,133
<i>of these people are lying?</i>

1353
01:12:36,133 --> 01:12:38,834
<i>I'm afraid we have</i>
<i>to say that on the basis</i>

1354
01:12:38,834 --> 01:12:40,467
<i>of physical evidence.</i>

1355
01:12:40,567 --> 01:12:41,634
[Larry King] <i>Meaning?</i>

1356
01:12:41,667 --> 01:12:43,634
<i>Physical evidence</i>
<i>that should've been there</i>

1357
01:12:43,634 --> 01:12:44,767
<i>but was not.</i>

1358
01:12:44,767 --> 01:12:46,567
[Larry King] <i>Why are</i>
<i>you laughing, Travis?</i>

1359
01:12:46,634 --> 01:12:49,066
<i>Well, because</i>
<i>this is typical of the sort</i>
<i>of reasoning pattern</i>

1360
01:12:49,133 --> 01:12:51,767
<i>this man uses in attacking</i>
<i>all UFO cases.</i>

1361
01:12:51,867 --> 01:12:54,567
<i>Uh, he's equating</i>
<i>the absence of evidence</i>

1362
01:12:54,667 --> 01:12:56,100
<i>to be the evidence of absence.</i>

1363
01:12:58,066 --> 01:13:00,634
[narrator] <i>The film's release</i>
<i>is a moral victory</i>

1364
01:13:00,634 --> 01:13:03,433
<i>for Travis Walton</i>
<i>and his crewmates.</i>

1365
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,233
[Ben] Fire in the Sky.

1366
01:13:06,233 --> 01:13:09,033
<i>It wasn't just a close</i>
<i>encounters of the third kind</i>

1367
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:11,767
type of movie, this is
something based on real life.

1368
01:13:11,867 --> 01:13:14,533
This is what happened
to a man and six other

1369
01:13:14,533 --> 01:13:15,934
of his crewmembers.

1370
01:13:19,433 --> 01:13:22,133
We can't just easily
dismiss abduction cases

1371
01:13:22,133 --> 01:13:24,767
because look at all
the evidence in favor
of this one.

1372
01:13:26,634 --> 01:13:29,266
[narrator] <i>In the aftermath</i>
<i>of</i> Fire in the Sky,

1373
01:13:29,367 --> 01:13:32,066
<i>a new generation</i>
<i>of UFO investigators</i>

1374
01:13:32,133 --> 01:13:34,333
<i>take up Travis' cause.</i>

1375
01:13:34,333 --> 01:13:37,166
<i>Can they find actual</i>
<i>physical evidence</i>

1376
01:13:37,233 --> 01:13:39,367
<i>to prove Travis' story</i>

1377
01:13:39,433 --> 01:13:41,567
<i>beyond any doubt?</i>

1378
01:13:45,767 --> 01:13:47,266
<i>In 2014,</i>

1379
01:13:49,266 --> 01:13:50,667
<i>UFO researcher</i>

1380
01:13:50,767 --> 01:13:52,667
<i>and documentarian, Ben Hansen,</i>

1381
01:13:52,734 --> 01:13:54,333
<i>meets Travis Walton</i>

1382
01:13:54,333 --> 01:13:57,533
<i>at the site of his UFO</i>
<i>abduction to examine</i>

1383
01:13:57,533 --> 01:14:01,567
<i>any remaining evidence</i>
<i>of Travis' alien encounter.</i>

1384
01:14:02,867 --> 01:14:06,734
Years ago Travis, uh,
and I were filming, um,

1385
01:14:06,734 --> 01:14:10,767
kind of a survey before
we had a conference here.

1386
01:14:10,834 --> 01:14:13,166
<i>So, right here</i>
<i>is where we determined</i>

1387
01:14:13,266 --> 01:14:14,386
<i>through the witnesses</i>
<i>and especially Travis'</i>
<i>recollection</i>

1388
01:14:14,386 --> 01:14:15,934
<i>through the witnesses</i>
<i>and especially Travis'</i>
<i>recollection</i>

1389
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,734
<i>where this object</i>
<i>was hovering.</i>

1390
01:14:18,734 --> 01:14:21,367
This is the first time
we're gonna open it up
to the public.

1391
01:14:21,467 --> 01:14:23,166
We didn't want
the public coming in here,

1392
01:14:23,266 --> 01:14:27,367
knowing the location
and start taking stuff
or planting things.

1393
01:14:27,467 --> 01:14:30,266
We wanted to know exactly
what kind of evidence,

1394
01:14:30,367 --> 01:14:31,567
if anything, was left over.

1395
01:14:32,834 --> 01:14:34,433
[narrator]
<i>Ben and the research team</i>

1396
01:14:34,433 --> 01:14:37,000
<i>take a methodical approach</i>
<i>to the date collection.</i>

1397
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:43,834
[Ben] <i>We gritted this</i>
<i>whole area and we treated it</i>

1398
01:14:43,834 --> 01:14:44,386
<i>like a crime scene.</i>

1399
01:14:44,386 --> 01:14:45,000
<i>like a crime scene.</i>

1400
01:14:46,233 --> 01:14:49,667
While we're going through
everything, the topsoil, uh,

1401
01:14:49,734 --> 01:14:52,266
we're looking at rocks
to see if they're magnetic,

1402
01:14:52,367 --> 01:14:54,867
we come across some
of these tree stumps.

1403
01:14:56,066 --> 01:14:58,967
<i>Now these have broken off</i>
<i>shortly after the incident.</i>

1404
01:14:59,033 --> 01:15:01,567
<i>You can actually count</i>
<i>back the rings, of course,</i>

1405
01:15:01,634 --> 01:15:04,066
and see this tree
would've been here 1975.

1406
01:15:05,133 --> 01:15:06,533
[narrator]
<i>On closer inspection</i>

1407
01:15:06,533 --> 01:15:09,934
<i>of the tree rings,</i>
<i>Ben and Travis noticed</i>

1408
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,433
<i>something very strange indeed.</i>

1409
01:15:12,433 --> 01:15:14,386
[Ben] <i>If you think</i>
<i>of a tree ring,</i>

1410
01:15:14,386 --> 01:15:14,667
[Ben] <i>If you think</i>
<i>of a tree ring,</i>

1411
01:15:14,767 --> 01:15:17,967
they're usually
very equally sized,

1412
01:15:18,033 --> 01:15:20,567
uh, concentric circles.

1413
01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:22,867
Okay, on all sides.

1414
01:15:25,066 --> 01:15:28,367
<i>But these trees</i>
<i>had something unique.</i>

1415
01:15:28,433 --> 01:15:31,467
The rings on the side
facing the clearing

1416
01:15:32,166 --> 01:15:33,767
was spaced out further.

1417
01:15:37,567 --> 01:15:39,667
<i>Meaning there was a greater</i>
<i>volume of growth</i>

1418
01:15:39,767 --> 01:15:42,367
<i>on that side</i>
<i>of the tree alone.</i>

1419
01:15:42,467 --> 01:15:44,386
<i>And we started noticing</i>
<i>this as we're going around</i>

1420
01:15:44,386 --> 01:15:44,634
<i>And we started noticing</i>
<i>this as we're going around</i>

1421
01:15:44,634 --> 01:15:47,867
in a circle and came across
the discovery

1422
01:15:47,967 --> 01:15:50,033
that they all seemed
to be pointing

1423
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:52,066
in a direction
towards the center.

1424
01:15:52,133 --> 01:15:54,834
The epicenter where
the craft was hovering.

1425
01:16:01,433 --> 01:16:03,867
[narrator] <i>Could radiation</i>
<i>from the UFO,</i>

1426
01:16:03,934 --> 01:16:07,133
<i>as evidenced by the Geiger</i>
<i>counter readings at the site</i>

1427
01:16:07,133 --> 01:16:11,834
<i>in 1975, have caused</i>
<i>these trees to mutate?</i>

1428
01:16:13,033 --> 01:16:14,386
[Ben] <i>I started</i>
<i>researching a bit</i>

1429
01:16:14,386 --> 01:16:14,634
[Ben] <i>I started</i>
<i>researching a bit</i>

1430
01:16:15,533 --> 01:16:16,834
and I found
a couple of studies

1431
01:16:16,834 --> 01:16:18,467
that happened after Chernobyl.

1432
01:16:27,567 --> 01:16:30,467
<i>The studies found</i>
<i>that these trees grow</i>

1433
01:16:30,533 --> 01:16:33,233
<i>exponentially greater</i>
<i>than any other time period.</i>

1434
01:16:34,767 --> 01:16:36,166
So is that what happened here?

1435
01:16:39,166 --> 01:16:41,667
[narrator] <i>At an independent</i>
<i>lab in Ohio,</i>

1436
01:16:41,734 --> 01:16:44,386
<i>the soil samples taken from</i>
<i>the site are tested against</i>

1437
01:16:44,386 --> 01:16:44,734
<i>the soil samples taken from</i>
<i>the site are tested against</i>

1438
01:16:44,734 --> 01:16:46,467
<i>to control group.</i>

1439
01:16:46,533 --> 01:16:49,934
<i>The findings</i>
<i>blow everyone away.</i>

1440
01:16:52,233 --> 01:16:55,533
There was a higher
concentration of iron

1441
01:16:55,533 --> 01:17:00,233
and other ferrous materials
as compared to the controlled

1442
01:17:00,233 --> 01:17:02,467
samples which were
much further away.

1443
01:17:02,567 --> 01:17:03,834
Now what does that mean?

1444
01:17:03,834 --> 01:17:07,934
Other, uh, notable UFO cases
have indicated sometimes

1445
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,000
a trace evidence
of ferrous materials

1446
01:17:12,066 --> 01:17:14,386
as if something, um, creating
a large magnetic field

1447
01:17:14,386 --> 01:17:16,567
as if something, um, creating
a large magnetic field

1448
01:17:16,634 --> 01:17:19,967
was pulling these particles up
from the lower layers.

1449
01:17:24,066 --> 01:17:26,233
[narrator]
<i>Based on these findings,</i>

1450
01:17:26,233 --> 01:17:29,567
<i>Ben Hansen and many other</i>
<i>open-minded researchers</i>

1451
01:17:29,634 --> 01:17:31,767
<i>draw the same conclusion.</i>

1452
01:17:34,033 --> 01:17:36,533
<i>The Travis Walton</i>
<i>abduction case</i>

1453
01:17:36,533 --> 01:17:39,634
<i>offers perhaps</i>
<i>the best evidence to date</i>

1454
01:17:39,634 --> 01:17:43,066
<i>of alien visitation</i>
<i>to planet Earth.</i>

1455
01:17:45,033 --> 01:17:48,467
I can say that I fully
believe what he experienced

1456
01:17:48,567 --> 01:17:51,734
is how he
and the crew experiences

1457
01:17:51,734 --> 01:17:53,066
very strange event.

1458
01:17:55,266 --> 01:17:57,433
[narrator] <i>But as Walton's</i>
<i>story continues to be</i>

1459
01:17:57,433 --> 01:18:01,066
<i>more accepted as truth,</i>
<i>frightening questions remain.</i>

1460
01:18:03,166 --> 01:18:07,467
<i>Who are these alien creatures</i>
<i>and what do they want?</i>

1461
01:18:18,567 --> 01:18:21,533
<i>Travis Walton</i>
<i>makes one final trip</i>

1462
01:18:21,533 --> 01:18:25,433
<i>from his home in</i>
<i>Snowflake to the site</i>
<i>of his alien abduction.</i>

1463
01:18:27,066 --> 01:18:30,867
It's, It's just, um, kind of
a PTSD kind of a thing.

1464
01:18:32,467 --> 01:18:35,333
I still feel apprehension.

1465
01:18:38,467 --> 01:18:39,418
We're getting close.

1466
01:18:39,418 --> 01:18:40,066
We're getting close.

1467
01:18:42,767 --> 01:18:46,233
[narrator] <i>For Travis, this is</i>
<i>still an emotional journey.</i>

1468
01:18:57,467 --> 01:18:59,367
[sighs]

1469
01:19:02,567 --> 01:19:04,266
[Travis] <i>This was really</i>
<i>a turning point</i>

1470
01:19:04,367 --> 01:19:05,867
<i>in my life what happened here.</i>

1471
01:19:07,433 --> 01:19:09,418
<i>It's amazing to think</i>
<i>how much time has gone by.</i>

1472
01:19:09,418 --> 01:19:10,367
<i>It's amazing to think</i>
<i>how much time has gone by.</i>

1473
01:19:11,266 --> 01:19:13,367
<i>Little did I know, uh,</i>

1474
01:19:14,533 --> 01:19:16,467
my life would
never be the same.

1475
01:19:17,867 --> 01:19:19,934
[narrator] <i>Four decades later,</i>

1476
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,000
<i>Travis reflects</i>
<i>on what it all means.</i>

1477
01:19:23,066 --> 01:19:26,467
[Travis] <i>Well, I had a choice</i>
<i>after this incident happened.</i>

1478
01:19:26,567 --> 01:19:29,333
Could I just shut up about
it and hope people

1479
01:19:29,333 --> 01:19:31,567
will forget about it
and it'll go away

1480
01:19:31,634 --> 01:19:34,166
or get out there
and defend myself

1481
01:19:34,266 --> 01:19:36,634
and, uh,
set the record straight?

1482
01:19:41,834 --> 01:19:45,266
<i>Aliens exist, we're not alone</i>
<i>in the universe.</i>

1483
01:19:46,467 --> 01:19:51,066
I think people need to realize
that there is a reality here.

1484
01:19:52,934 --> 01:19:55,000
[narrator] <i>And no one knows</i>
<i>this better</i>

1485
01:19:55,066 --> 01:19:59,100
<i>than the six men who</i>
<i>witnessed Travis'</i>
<i>alien encounter.</i>

1486
01:20:00,266 --> 01:20:04,967
Every one of those
crewmen has stood by the story

1487
01:20:05,033 --> 01:20:07,667
of that happened
throughout their lives

1488
01:20:08,967 --> 01:20:09,418
<i>and some of them are</i>
<i>no longer with us.</i>

1489
01:20:09,418 --> 01:20:10,934
<i>and some of them are</i>
<i>no longer with us.</i>

1490
01:20:12,166 --> 01:20:14,467
They've had the courage
to stand up

1491
01:20:14,533 --> 01:20:17,133
to the naysayers and they
endured that

1492
01:20:17,133 --> 01:20:19,967
from the beginning, even...
Even before I was returned.

1493
01:20:22,066 --> 01:20:24,767
[Steve] <i>I lived it and it's</i>
<i>still hard to believe.</i>

1494
01:20:24,834 --> 01:20:27,433
Man, I've been called
a liar so many times.

1495
01:20:27,433 --> 01:20:29,667
[laughing]

1496
01:20:29,767 --> 01:20:32,266
I'm just used to it, I guess.
It doesn't really bother me.

1497
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:34,367
If you believe it,
you believe it.
You don't, you don't.

1498
01:20:35,667 --> 01:20:38,767
[John] <i>It's always</i>
<i>gonna be there, you know.</i>

1499
01:20:38,867 --> 01:20:39,418
And sometime
if bothers me a lot,

1500
01:20:39,418 --> 01:20:41,266
And sometime
if bothers me a lot,

1501
01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:43,934
you know, but it did happen
and why did it happen?

1502
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,333
Why was it us?

1503
01:20:46,567 --> 01:20:49,266
[Mike] <i>Everybody was affected</i>
<i>differently, you know.</i>

1504
01:20:49,333 --> 01:20:53,066
Greatly affected my life,
but it's all for the better
I think.

1505
01:20:53,133 --> 01:20:54,433
For the better.

1506
01:20:57,467 --> 01:20:58,567
It was real.

1507
01:21:00,066 --> 01:21:01,734
It was real that day.

1508
01:21:04,967 --> 01:21:07,266
[Dana] <i>What I would say</i>
<i>to skeptics is</i>

1509
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:09,418
walk a mile in my shoes.

1510
01:21:09,418 --> 01:21:10,100
walk a mile in my shoes.

1511
01:21:10,166 --> 01:21:12,000
They need to do more research,

1512
01:21:12,066 --> 01:21:13,967
they need to be more
open minded.

1513
01:21:14,634 --> 01:21:17,066
[pilot] <i>Oh, got it!</i>

1514
01:21:17,133 --> 01:21:19,634
[laughing] <i>Woo-hoo!</i>

1515
01:21:19,634 --> 01:21:22,767
[narrator] <i>Now, recent</i>
<i>government disclosures</i>

1516
01:21:22,867 --> 01:21:25,266
<i>lend further credence</i>
<i>to the experiences</i>

1517
01:21:25,333 --> 01:21:27,967
<i>of Travis</i>
<i>and his fellow crewmembers.</i>

1518
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,767
The last three years,
basically,

1519
01:21:31,834 --> 01:21:35,367
we have seen story after story
that establishes,

1520
01:21:35,433 --> 01:21:38,967
uh, that UFOs are more real
than anybody's ever believed.

1521
01:21:40,467 --> 01:21:43,266
[Ben] <i>Perhaps the most</i>
<i>important modern-day</i>

1522
01:21:43,333 --> 01:21:46,000
revelation from our
government is an official

1523
01:21:46,066 --> 01:21:48,266
acknowledgement that
the phenomenon is real.

1524
01:21:48,967 --> 01:21:50,533
Something is going on.

1525
01:21:52,233 --> 01:21:55,467
<i>We definitely cannot</i>
<i>rule out extraterrestrial.</i>

1526
01:21:55,533 --> 01:21:59,467
If the world had felt
the same back in 1975,

1527
01:21:59,567 --> 01:22:01,367
I don't think that
the case would've received

1528
01:22:01,433 --> 01:22:04,066
so much negative
criticism and ridicule.

1529
01:22:05,634 --> 01:22:07,567
[Travis] <i>I think</i>
<i>that the reason</i>

1530
01:22:07,634 --> 01:22:09,418
the Pentagon disclosures
film and statements

1531
01:22:09,418 --> 01:22:11,367
the Pentagon disclosures
film and statements

1532
01:22:11,467 --> 01:22:14,133
that they have evidence,
it's basically they're saying,

1533
01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:17,233
"It's a matter
of fact." It's very..

1534
01:22:17,233 --> 01:22:18,667
It's very good progress.

1535
01:22:18,734 --> 01:22:21,367
So it's a relief
that they're going to come

1536
01:22:21,467 --> 01:22:23,767
so far as to say,
"Yes, there's something here

1537
01:22:23,867 --> 01:22:25,567
and we don't know what it is."

1538
01:22:27,033 --> 01:22:29,367
[Bryce] <i>I think that one</i>
<i>of the things</i>
<i>you're going to see</i>

1539
01:22:29,467 --> 01:22:31,767
<i>happening in the next</i>
<i>few years are we're</i>
<i>gonna have</i>

1540
01:22:31,834 --> 01:22:34,567
<i>congressional hearings</i>
<i>on this very topic</i>

1541
01:22:35,333 --> 01:22:37,367
and I would submit
to the senators

1542
01:22:37,433 --> 01:22:38,867
and the congress people

1543
01:22:38,934 --> 01:22:39,418
who are thinking of putting
those hearings together

1544
01:22:39,418 --> 01:22:41,467
who are thinking of putting
those hearings together

1545
01:22:41,567 --> 01:22:44,133
that they might want
to consider calling up
Travis Walton

1546
01:22:44,133 --> 01:22:46,834
and bringing him up
to Washington and asking him

1547
01:22:46,834 --> 01:22:49,767
to tell his story directly.
I think they'd like to
hear it.

1548
01:22:54,767 --> 01:22:59,066
[Travis] <i>This is the place</i>
<i>where my life</i>
<i>was changed forever.</i>

1549
01:22:59,133 --> 01:23:02,166
<i>Eventually I'm hoping</i>
<i>something good will</i>
<i>come of it.</i>

1550
01:23:03,567 --> 01:23:05,166
<i>At the minimum,</i>

1551
01:23:05,266 --> 01:23:09,418
uh, make humans realize
that we're not so special,

1552
01:23:09,418 --> 01:23:09,867
uh, make humans realize
that we're not so special,

1553
01:23:09,967 --> 01:23:12,767
uh, that, uh,
the world there is.

1554
01:23:15,834 --> 01:23:18,967
<i>The fact that these aliens</i>
<i>exist after all this time</i>

1555
01:23:19,033 --> 01:23:22,467
with vastly
superior technology

1556
01:23:23,066 --> 01:23:25,467
has to mean that they, uh,

1557
01:23:25,567 --> 01:23:29,100
ceased to be war like
in attacking each other.

1558
01:23:29,166 --> 01:23:32,033
So it's, uh, sort of
a message to humanity

1559
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:35,266
to figure out to be a whole
lot less savage

1560
01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:38,867
and a whole lot smarter
about where we're going
with all this.



