1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,600 [telephone ringing] 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,800 -[door opening] -[voice1] Hello? 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,880 [voice2] Yes, your Highness, how are you? 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,800 [Aga Khan] Yes, hello. 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,560 [Gilbert Chikli] You know, I'm calling you on a secure line. 8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,760 [Jeff Rouhete] He had an extremely calm, controlled, friendly voice. 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,280 [Gilbert Chikli] So I've just sent you 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,600 a very confidential document. 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,360 CONFIDENTIAL 12 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,400 THE MINISTER 13 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,040 MR LE DRIAN 14 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,480 The Minister Le Drian wants to organize a video conference. 15 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,920 [computer ringing] 16 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,960 I see Mister Le Drian in front of me on the screen . 17 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,280 [upbeat music] 18 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,080 I don't know if it's real or not. 19 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,200 The minister tells me, "I need a lot of money." 20 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,360 [upbeat music] 21 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,680 [Aga Khan] 4.8 million. 22 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,720 [automated voice] You've received a payment order of 886,000 euros. 23 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,680 [Gilbert Chikli] I think it is between three or four hundred thousand euros. 24 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,800 [Aga Khan] 5.8 million. 25 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,920 [Gilbert Chikli] It's very important that you pay it immediately. 26 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,040 [upbeat music] 27 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,480 [narrator2] An incredible scam that managed 28 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,120 to extort more than 80 million euros. 29 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,960 [narrator3] The alleged mastermind of these operations, 30 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,840 Gilbert Chikli, Scam King. 31 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,760 [upbeat music] 32 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,120 [Ludovic Elbaz] He's got something in his voice that brings people on board. 33 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,920 He's like a great actor or artist. 34 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,120 It either works or it doesn't. 35 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,440 His latest achievement, 36 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,440 impersonating… Jean-Yves Le Drian. 37 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,520 [Delphine Meillet] The amazing audacity to try everything. 38 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,480 [upbeat music] 39 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,680 [Marco Mouly] After that, it becomes art, 40 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:35,720 not fraud. 41 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,240 Theatre. 42 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,720 [suspenseful music] 43 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,800 VOICE RECORDING OF GILBERT CHIKLI 44 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,200 [Gilbert Chikli] So, let me introduce myself. 45 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,400 My name is Gilbert Chikli. 46 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,480 I don’t think I’m evil or a bad boy, 47 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 but in the end, that's up to others to judge 48 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,280 [violin music] 49 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,200 because Gilbert Chikli isn’t who you think he is. 50 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,200 -[upbeat music] -[children chattering] 51 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,960 [Gilbert Chikli] I was born in Paris, in a little village called Belleville. 52 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:18,960 At the time, we all lived in a small studio apartment. 53 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Financially we had nothing, absolutely nothing, 54 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,800 SQUAT 55 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,680 and I couldn't accept it. 56 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,800 [dramatic music] 57 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,080 [Gilbert Chikli] I was a very clever boy who had an obsession, 58 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,880 which was to try to alleviate my family’s suffering. 59 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,520 [suspenseful music] 60 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,720 [Gilbert Chikli] In this world, there is only room for clever people. 61 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,880 [upbeat music] 62 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:53,560 [man1] Can you move the chair a bit to your right please? 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,400 Yeah, no, a little less. Good and… 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,680 I look horrible. 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,760 [Dominic] What type of person are you Shirley? 66 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:06,160 [Shirley] I'm a mystery… a mystery. 67 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,400 [upbeat music] 68 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,080 Make me look tanned. And thin, make me look skinny. 69 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Otherwise it'll be a catastrophe. 70 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:15,760 [upbeat music] 71 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,520 SHIRLEY: EX-GIRLFRIEND AND ACCOMPLICE 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Money is exciting. It gets my adrenaline going. 73 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,240 I don't get out of bed without money. 74 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,600 I need money everywhere. 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,520 [Dominic] Would you say you're a criminal? 76 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,840 Me, a criminal? Not at all. 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,720 On the contrary, I'm an angel. 78 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,720 I do good things with money. 79 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,160 So, well, listen. 80 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,400 I live in the truth. 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,000 [Dominic] Tell me a little about your relationship with Gilbert. 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,520 He gave me this ring when I was 25 and I still have it. 83 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,360 There! 84 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,520 No, I don't want to show you, it brings bad luck. 85 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,520 [mid-tempo jazz music] 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,840 [Shirley] In the 90s, I was in Paris, 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,040 and I was working for advertising companies 88 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,040 that did false advertising. 89 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,600 It was considered to be a bit of a scam, 90 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,200 but it didn't bother me too much, because 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,640 I just smooth-talked over the phone as a clever way to get them to send money. 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,480 [upbeat music] 93 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,480 [Shirley] I always hung out with people who make easy money. 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,040 When I met Gilbert, I must have been 20 years old. 95 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,920 I was in the car, like usual, driving around 96 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,400 and in a traffic jam, like everybody else, I look around. 97 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,280 And suddenly I locked eyes with Gilbert Chikli. 98 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,520 And he stared right back at me. 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,920 Ha! 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,680 We hit it off right away. 101 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,880 [soft music] 102 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,280 [Shirley] He was a money maker. 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,480 I was always luxurious, very well off in fact. 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,240 But Gilbert was from Belleville. 105 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,440 That's why it clicked between us. The rich kid and the bad boy. 106 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,080 Gilbert was always a high roller, a big time player. 107 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,400 He didn't play to win, he played for the thrill. 108 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,160 What I liked about him was his intelligence. 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,480 [soft music] 110 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,040 [Shirley] In 2005, Gilbert had a money problem. 111 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Gambling debts. 112 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,800 €200,000 - 300,000. 113 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,480 Lots of thugs wanted to get money out of him. 114 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,560 And he told me: "Shirley, I'm fucked, I need money, how do I get some?" 115 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,800 [suspenseful sound] 116 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,880 [Shirley] That night, I was at my place with him. 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,160 I was watching TV. 118 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,160 [reporter] The underground has been evacuated. 119 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,160 The streets of London are filled with ambulances… 120 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:17,040 [Shirley] When I saw the 2005 London attacks on TV… 121 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,760 [reporter] A total of six explosions this morning in the heart of London. 122 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,120 [tense music] 123 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,840 [Shirley] I immediately thought of creating a scam. 124 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,280 Playing on people's fear 125 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,040 and pretending to be counterterrorism agents. 126 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,480 And it worked… like dynamite. 127 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,760 [Gilbert Chikli] I'm going to tell you a secret. 128 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,200 Human beings are curious. 129 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,560 When faced with a mythical, mysterious person, they'll go all the way. 130 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,320 I never thought for a single second that people would believe me. 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,480 Do you know why? 132 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Because the most important thing is that I believed in myself. 133 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,880 [suspenseful music] 134 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,600 [Shirley] Gilbert's role was pretending to be a secret service agent. 135 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,120 Finding people's weakness is the first thing, it's the foundation. 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Scaring them, saying we know a secret about them. 137 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,960 And I know a secret about you. 138 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Yes, I know a secret about you. 139 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,080 [Shirley] We play with the psyche of the person we're scamming. 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,760 We managed to find out if they were a smoker or not a smoker, 141 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,320 if they had kids, if they cheated on their wives. 142 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 We managed to get into their personal lives. 143 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,480 And we got them to give us money, 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,240 a lot of money. 145 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,720 [dramatic music] 146 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,280 [Élise Le Guével] My name is Élise le Guével, I'm a journalist. 147 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,360 I have worked for Envoyé Spécial at France2 for seven years. 148 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,440 One night, I'm with a friend, 149 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,000 he's a financial executive at a large French company, 150 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:11,920 and he tells me, 151 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,200 "A weird thing happened this morning. 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Someone from my department received a call 153 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,440 from someone pretending to be the CEO of the company. 154 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,400 And this CEO told him, 155 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:30,600 "one of your bank's clients is financing terrorism. 156 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,200 We are going to ask you for your help to fight terrorism." 157 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,720 [Pierre] I have been a financial director for many years. 158 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:43,200 [soft music] 159 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,600 In March 2006, 160 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,600 I went through something that I wouldn't wish on anyone, 161 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:52,640 the death of my wife, because of depression. 162 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,640 She committed suicide and left me alone with three children. 163 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,800 It was a difficult time for me, 164 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,960 I needed to trust, 165 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,200 to find trust in human nature again. 166 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,680 Two weeks later, I'm at the office. 167 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,560 At some point, a colleague transfers me a call. 168 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,800 telling me "It's the CEO". 169 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,320 [Pierre] Hello? 170 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,360 [Gilbert Chikli] It's Mr Roger on the phone, how are you doing? 171 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:31,120 [Pierre] And he tells me that I will soon get another call 172 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,480 from a secret service agent. 173 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,040 -[phone vibrates] -MASKED NUMBER 174 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,880 I get that call. 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,840 [Gilbert Chikli] Yes, hello. You know I'm calling you on a secure line. 176 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,640 [Pierre] He had an extremely calm, 177 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,720 controlled, friendly voice. 178 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,720 He told me, "Your role will be to make a bank transfer 179 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,880 that will be traced by our team to try to catch them 180 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,560 when they receive the funds." 181 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,640 [Gilbert Chikli] This is called an internal crime, 182 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,200 so if you're fit to handle it, 183 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,920 we'll sit together, otherwise I can contact someone else. 184 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,080 So what I'm asking you for is no contact between you and me. 185 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,840 You have to make this payment on your own. 186 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,880 [Pierre] I'm starting to have to really ask myself questions. 187 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,920 When he felt me hesitate, he told me, "We know who you are, 188 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,720 we know your personal situation is messy at the moment" 189 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,560 He talked to me about my wife's suicide, about my children. 190 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,480 He has information on me, a lot of it. 191 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:37,320 [Gilbert Chikli] I'm counting on you, send it right now, it's very important. 192 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:40,560 [Pierre] I hesitate. 193 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,120 I hesitate, but I'm all in. 194 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:49,080 In total, the attempt involved a little more than 10 million euros. 195 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,680 10 MILLION EUROS 196 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,680 [television sound] 197 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,200 [jazzy music] 198 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,880 [Gilbert Chikli] I learned that I had the ability to do incredible things. 199 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Clearly, I could go so much further. 200 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,760 [Shirley] Gilbert, saw the recipe was making good cakes, 201 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,680 so then he made an entire cake shop. 202 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,760 [soft music] 203 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,880 [telephone ringing] 204 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,720 -[recorded voice] Hello? -Good, are you in front of your computer? 205 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,640 [Recorded voice] Yes. 206 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,600 [Gilbert Chikli] You received a payment order of 886,000 euros. 207 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:29,880 [phone ringing] 208 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,000 [Shirley] It was a very exciting job that got my adrenaline going. 209 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,360 It felt like I was in a movie. 210 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,040 [Gilbert Chikli] I think it's between 300, 400 thousand euros, more or less. 211 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,160 [Élise Le Guével] Every single French company on the stock market, 212 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,040 the big and small ones are targeted by these calls, 213 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,560 it's on an industrial scale. 214 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,840 [recorded voice] I don't understand. 215 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,120 What time will I receive the bank account details? 216 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,960 [Gilbert Chikli] You should receive them tomorrow. 217 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,920 [Élise Le Guével] These victims don't necessarily seem gullible. 218 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,360 They are professional, competent people who are driven to succeed, 219 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,120 and I think that's the leverage the scammer needs. 220 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,640 He had to be found. 221 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,800 How are you? 222 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,960 And you? 223 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Yes, that's why I'm calling you back. Yes, I was there, I'm calling you back. 224 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,280 [Marco Mouly] When you're young, 225 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,360 there's a top dog, number one, number two, number three. 226 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,720 Gilbert was a number one. 227 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,160 Come on, sit down. 228 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,200 Two minutes, the lawyer just called me. 229 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,160 When they plot, they're going to aim for a lot of money. Why? 230 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Because they have a story and they go for it. 231 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,480 They prepare it and hold on even if it takes time, even if it costs them money. 232 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:44,080 But they get better, they make it better so it works, 233 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,880 so they'll try the first time. 234 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,600 They'll see if they could grab that dough, 235 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:51,040 and if they didn't get it, then something is off. 236 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,400 They'll do it again to see what's not working 237 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,480 and they'll do it better until they get the real result they want. 238 00:12:57,560 --> 00:13:00,760 [mid-tempo music] 239 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,000 PHILIPPE HUETZ: CHIEF OF POLICE PARIS POLICE. ERIC MOREAU: MAJOR PARIS POLICE 240 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,800 We're rolling, everyone ready? 241 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,720 -[production] Yep -OK, let's go. 242 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,680 Did you get it? 243 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,000 Maybe [laughs] . 244 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,440 [production] Sniper. 245 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,320 [Dominic] What was your first reaction when you heard about the scam? 246 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,440 At the time, I said to myself, "the bigger it is, the better it works." 247 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,960 That's the first thought I had. 248 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,960 Because well, it's just massive. 249 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,960 We quickly had about 20 or 30 different cases. 250 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,080 We'd never seen a method like this used before. 251 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,400 Always the same. 252 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,680 The secret agent, the CEO, 253 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:44,720 and "we're fighting terrorism." 254 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,560 The investigation turns into a spider's web. 255 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,880 It's completely international. 256 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,720 The money goes to accounts abroad… 257 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,120 Accounts in countries all over the world 258 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,040 Yes. 259 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,560 I think it's a wonderful scam. The scammer is very talented. 260 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,960 We had to catch him immediately. 261 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:12,440 [Éric Moreau] We put a wire on the phone line that was used to call some victims. 262 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:17,680 We find out that the owner of the line is named Shirley. 263 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,560 [Shirley] Éric Moreau. 264 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,600 What an arsehole. 265 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,560 I tell Philippe 266 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,400 that the next morning we'll go find this young woman at her home. 267 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,680 UNDERGROUND 268 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,400 [Shirley] I was in Paris. 269 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,080 I spent the evening with a very good friend who stayed at my place. 270 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,080 Poor guy. 271 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,960 We were awaken by the police. 272 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,160 I had a foot on my back, 273 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,520 I was on the floor, 274 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,480 my head was pressed flat on the ground. 275 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,040 There was a foot on my back I couldn't move, 276 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,800 and they had big guns like this, long guns. 277 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,720 I asked them, "What did I do? Why are you here?" 278 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,480 "Counter terrorism service". 279 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,120 I was speechless. 280 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,960 On the wall facing the door, we see a huge poster of another man. 281 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,520 [suspenseful music] 282 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,040 So I asked her, "Who's the guy in the photo?" 283 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,360 And she tells me, 284 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,000 "It's Gilbert." 285 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,080 As if to say, "You don't know him?" 286 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Well no. 287 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,760 [suspenseful music] 288 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,280 Shirley, in custody, 289 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,000 as soon as she arrives, she doesn't want to say anything. 290 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,920 She says nothing, she knows nothing, she's done nothing. 291 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,280 Then, we realized that Shirley is an extremely jealous woman. 292 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,920 We played with that a bit. 293 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,280 [Shirley] They were telling me that Gilbert was unfaithful. 294 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,120 That I was basically cheated on. 295 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,040 It was a bluff, because… 296 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,760 We don't have that info, we have nothing. 297 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,960 And then, 298 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,640 Shirley, 299 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,040 with a stroke of luck, believes it. 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,320 And she tells me, "So he doesn't care about me, 301 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,520 I'll tell you everything." 302 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,600 And then she got going and for 48 hours, she didn't stop. 303 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,880 At first, I really wanted to be quiet and protect Gilbert. 304 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,360 But it was out of the question. 305 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,640 I wasn't going to jail. 306 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,040 So, that's why I told them the whole story. 307 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:28,960 I had to. 308 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,920 [tense music] 309 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,920 [Éric Moreau] We learn a whole lot of things. 310 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,400 [Philippe Huetz] We know who is behind the CEO scams. 311 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 [suspenseful music] 312 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:45,000 [Éric Moreau] During the interview, we get a call at the station 313 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,640 a guy who was pretending to be one of the 314 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,320 group's investigators wants to speak to Shirley who is in custody. 315 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,360 [inhales] 316 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,320 And the very colleague he's pretending to be is right in front of me. 317 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,320 So… 318 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,200 So, I quickly understand who is on the phone and we start chatting. 319 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,880 And he tells me, 320 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,600 "Come see me in Israel, we will chat." 321 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,440 And he says, "I'll pay you, one-week a vacation 322 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,319 if you put Shirley on the phone." 323 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:16,640 [inhales] 324 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,400 Obviously, I didn't do it and I didn't get my one-week vacation. 325 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,920 And now we know he is in Israel, so we won't be able to arrest him. 326 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,280 [tense music] 327 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,960 [Gilbert Chikli] I was doing my best not to get caught. 328 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,000 It was a game of cat and mouse. 329 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,240 I was the master of the game . 330 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Good evening. An investigation into a new type of non-violent robbery. 331 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,720 Crooks impersonating CEOs. 332 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,200 La Poste office, Michelin, Intermarché are among hundreds of victims. 333 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,120 His name is Gilbert Chikli. 334 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,240 Today, he's on the run abroad, in Israel. 335 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,520 [dramatic music] 336 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,920 [Shirley] I was sentenced to two years in jail, 337 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,760 to sign in twice a month at the police station, 338 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,600 forbidden to travel, forbidden to leave the country. 339 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,680 Gilbert didn't care. 340 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,560 [Dominic] But were you sad that Gilbert was done with you? 341 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,480 [Shirley] Obviously. 342 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,320 [soft music] 343 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,280 We were good together. 344 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:18,560 True love. 345 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,040 We could have died together. 346 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,960 [soft music] 347 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,720 ISRAEL 2006 348 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,120 [Shirley] In Israel, he built another life. 349 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,600 In scamming, you can't have any attachments, 350 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,320 you have to be able to leave everything at any moment. 351 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,120 Well, he cut ties with me. 352 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,720 [music] 353 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,920 [Shirly Chikli] My name is Shirly, 354 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,200 I live in Ashdod, Israel. 355 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,360 I am a very simple girl, very nice, very friendly. 356 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,200 Hello? 357 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,560 [Shirly Chikli] I met Gilbert Chikli in 2006. 358 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,120 SHIRLY NUMBER TWO 359 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,400 [Dominic] What do you think about Shirly Chikli? 360 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,320 I don't know, I don't want to know, I won't talk about it. 361 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,120 I am above her. 362 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,040 I buy her, I sell her back, 363 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:32,280 and I make her clean the floor with her hair. 364 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:33,960 There you go. 365 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,280 [Shirly Chikli] My father always wanted me to go to school, to be a good student, 366 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,560 and to do everything that's supposed to be done, by the book. 367 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,640 And I was a bit different. 368 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,120 I was looking for a little more. 369 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,320 [soft music] 370 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:01,200 [Shirly] In 2006, at the time I had nothing, I had zero money on me. 371 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,080 I remember that a friend of mine gave me 70 euros to keep me going, 372 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,840 because I had no money. 373 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,400 And one day we hear on the radio 374 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,800 that two French people stole five million euros, and they are Franco-Israeli. 375 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,160 One of them, perhaps the most famous in France, is Gilbert Shikli. 376 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,240 In his native country he's considered a fugitive, but here he lives like a king. 377 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,760 [Shirly Chikli] I laughed and said to my friend, 378 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,480 I told her, 379 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,880 "Oh my, that's a big fish, if I find him he's cooked." 380 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,880 I go outside, it was right there, on this street, 381 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:48,480 and a Mercedes pulls up. A silver Mercedes. 382 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,000 [soft music] 383 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,960 I said, "Hello, Shalom." 384 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,280 He said, "Shalom." and looks at me strangely. 385 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,720 And on the dashboard, 386 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,720 there was a magazine in Hebrew. 387 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,440 He said, "Can you tell me what is written inside?" 388 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,360 And I take the magazine 389 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:14,520 and I see that it's written that two French people got away with five million, 390 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,600 and I laughed. 391 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,840 In my head, I know something's up. 392 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,160 He never told me that it was him in the magazine, 393 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,560 but I knew it was him. 394 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,960 [Shirly Chikli] He was like an angel that came into my life 395 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,080 and only wanted to do good things for me. 396 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,080 [upbeat music] 397 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,400 Gilbert had a special thing about him that when he talks, 398 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,000 everyone is captured by his story. 399 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,440 Like a magician. 400 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,880 He did a lot for me, he spoiled me, presents and stuff, 401 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,200 everything imaginable. 402 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,560 [Dominic] Didn't you ask yourself where the money was coming from? 403 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,560 I didn't care where it came from. 404 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,240 There was something… a new thing in my life that was only good for me. 405 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,680 Why would I ask questions? 406 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,680 [piano music] 407 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,560 After 11 months, we got married, we had a big wedding. 408 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,000 When I arrived in my dress, I felt like I was in a movie. 409 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,960 [mid-tempo music] 410 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,840 There were plenty of my friends who said, 411 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,760 "Shirly, be careful, the police are onto him." 412 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,360 But I loved Gilbert so much that I didn't care about any of it. 413 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,680 [reporter] Gilbert Chikli, who had never talked to the press, 414 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,560 has agreed to an interview with us. 415 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,480 WHILST STILL WANTED BY THE FRENCH POLICE 416 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,240 GILBERT CHIKLI APPEARS IN A SERIES OF TELEVISION INTERVIEWS 417 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,120 He's taken refuge in Israel, feels totally protected, so he'll play with us a little. 418 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,360 [inhales] We all have something inside ourselves. 419 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,760 It works or it doesn't. 420 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,080 You're either gifted or you you're not. 421 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,960 It's like like great actors, great artists, like the greats etcetera. 422 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,920 It either works or it doesn't. 423 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,240 Well, let's say I have a gift that works, so what? 424 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,520 [soft music] 425 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:19,960 [Élise Le Guével] He functions by being daring. 426 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,520 He can't stop himself from putting on a show. 427 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,040 A scammer's goal is getting a lot of money. 428 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Me, I have money, I've had it, I'll always have it. 429 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,640 So I really think it was all a game. 430 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:41,960 All these things I've done, they come from me. 431 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,640 Me alone, only me. 432 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,840 I built a thing that multiplied 433 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,880 because it was interesting to thousands of people. 434 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,200 [sharp sound] 435 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,520 [Gilbert Chikli] I am explaining to you that this transfer isn't scheduled, 436 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,240 but it has to be done today to avoid penalties. 437 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,080 So, do what you have to do. 438 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,400 [Shirley] He kept it up, he increased the pace. 439 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,760 He just about made it a job. 440 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,920 There are offices in Israel, 441 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,560 where there are 50 young people who make the calls. 442 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,920 "Hello, I'm the CEO, I would like a wire transfer." 443 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,200 He went from two million euros, to eight million euros, 444 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,360 15 million, 20 million. 445 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,360 It was… well yeah, incredible. 446 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,880 [soft music] 447 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,640 [accomplice x] When Gilbert came to see us, we couldn't understand at first, 448 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,960 ACCOMPLICE X FORMER ACCOMPLICE OF GILBERT 449 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,320 because he wanted us to believe that by pretending to be a CEO, 450 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,960 we could extort huge amounts of money. 451 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,360 It was going everywhere and everyone got in. 452 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,920 It was the new El Dorado. 453 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,160 Gilbert was a leader. 454 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,560 [soft music] 455 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840 He was simply the genius of this story. 456 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,400 But of course, he also had people doing business research. 457 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:13,880 There's the blackmailer who leads the accountant on until the transfer is done. 458 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,320 The cashiers, their only job is to get the money 459 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,960 and distribute it to destinations all over the world. 460 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,120 It was intense, 461 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,680 we played the game without thinking about the risks. 462 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,440 For some, it became a thing. 463 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,680 In fact, Gilbert always kept my phone number, 464 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,480 and from time to time, he'd call me to say, 465 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,640 "Hey, well this time, I know it didn't work." 466 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:51,600 Or, when it worked, he'd call me to say, "I got you." 467 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,440 You see, there's a kind of a game, 468 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,360 "I'm safe, I'm still doing my thing, 469 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,960 you keep trying to catch me, you never will." 470 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,040 Extraordinary. 471 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,320 BY 2009 CHIKLI AND HIS TEAM HAD SCAMMED ALMOST 60 MILLION EUROS 472 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,760 [tense music] 473 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,320 [Thierry Chikli] I'm the third brother. 474 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Since he was born, you could leave him anywhere. 475 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,200 He'd always get by fine, we never worried about it, 476 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,600 nobody ever worried about him, that's for sure. 477 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,960 [sharp sound] 478 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,160 [Thierry Chikli] Everything started in Rue des Noués in the 20th. 479 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,040 It was a small street in Belleville. 480 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,800 It was two tiny rooms, no shower, no bathroom, nothing. It was really horrid. 481 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,760 We didn't have a choice, unfortunately, that's how it was. 482 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,720 My dad was a garage worker, 483 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,120 and my mother, well, no time to work, five children, 484 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,600 it wasn't easy. 485 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,640 So he understood very early that we had true financial worries. 486 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,240 [suspenseful music] 487 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,160 [Thierry Chikli] By powers of speech, he'd leave with empty pockets 488 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,960 and come back with full pockets. 489 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,360 The boy didn't know how to stop. 490 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,200 It really drove my father crazy, 491 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,360 he could never find a solution. 492 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:17,720 He chained him up. 493 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,920 He chained him up. [laughs] 494 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000 It's true, it's funny, because today, it seems a bit psychopathic, 495 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,080 we don't chain up children, but he didn't know what to do. 496 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,440 He was too hyperactive, he never stopped. 497 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,400 He realized that not only did he have the gift of gab, he also had talent. 498 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,080 He knew he was such a persuasive force and he could do what he wanted, 499 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,320 when he wanted. 500 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,760 [piano music] 501 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,680 [Gilbert Chikli] I was extremely close to my mother, 502 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,800 she let me get away with everything, and I did anything she wanted. 503 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,320 My mother often explained to me, that I had to get into the game, 504 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,360 and above all, never underestimate the person I was talking to. 505 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,760 [Shirly Chikli] He did everything for his mother. 506 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,440 His mother loved the casino. 507 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,080 Since he was little, every time she lost money at the casino, 508 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800 he'd go to her house and give her money. 509 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:20,040 I think he had to make money ever since his childhood. 510 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:23,720 [Élise Le Guével] His mother used to say to him, 511 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,680 "Every morning, there is a chomp out there for you to find." 512 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,760 He doesn't necessarily see human beings based on their positions, 513 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,040 social status or personality. 514 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,160 No. 515 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,720 It's "Are you a potential chomp or not?" 516 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,760 "Am I going I find a way to rip you off or not?" 517 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,080 "Whoever you are, powerful, humble, small." 518 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,680 That drives him. 519 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,400 [mid-tempo music] 520 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,760 [Philippe Huetz] So, we were waiting. 521 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,000 We were waiting for a mistake, the little thing to get back in the game. 522 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,080 So, my department head was putting on the pressure [laughs]. 523 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,360 [Éric Moreau] One day, we get a telephone call. 524 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,240 I recognized Gilbert's voice. 525 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,720 And then like usual, he teases me a little, saying, 526 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,040 "This time, it worked." 527 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,280 There we go. 528 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,120 For 11 millions euros. 529 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800 [tense music] 530 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,160 [Éric Moreau] I call a contact I have at American Express. 531 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,160 He tells me, 532 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,720 "Your wire transfers just got converted to American Express Traveler's Cheques. 533 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,640 Your traveler's cheques are in a package, 534 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,280 and the package is being shipped by DHL and sent to Tel Aviv 535 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,120 in one week." 536 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,360 [upbeat music] 537 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,120 LAHAV 433 538 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,000 POLICE OFFICER 539 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,920 [production] Dominic, whenever you are ready. 540 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,640 [exhales] 541 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,560 [Dominic] Ready? 542 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,880 Ready. 543 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,200 DAVID KATZ HEAD OF ISRAELI CYBER CRIME UNIT 544 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,600 [mid-tempo music] 545 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,480 [David Katz] I was sitting in my office, just another normal day, 546 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,440 then I'm getting a call from a colleague from the Israeli Customs Service. 547 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,400 And he's telling me, 548 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,680 "Listen, David, we have a situation here at the airport, 549 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,680 we just seized a package, 550 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,360 a FedEx Package containing 1.2 million dollars 551 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,800 worth of Traveler's Cheques coming from Mexico." 552 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,840 I saw the destination and the name was "Chikli". 553 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,520 We checked in our database and we saw that he has double nationality. 554 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,120 [soft music] 555 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,520 The first thing I thought I should do is give a call to my French colleagues, 556 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,680 to see who this Gilbert Chikli guy is. 557 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,920 I understand that there is a much bigger picture than 558 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,360 the only 1.2 million dollars involved in this case. 559 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,280 [mid-tempo music] 560 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,560 [David Katz] We bug the package to wiretap the conversations. 561 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,960 [mid-tempo music] 562 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,200 [David Katz] Then I take one of my detectives. 563 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,840 We give him the clothes of the delivery company, 564 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,120 we give him the package, 565 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,960 and we sent him to Ashdod to make the delivery. 566 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,440 [radio squawks] 567 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,520 We felt stressed because we knew that without a successful controlled delivery 568 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,560 we will not be able to link the suspect, 569 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,440 Mr Chikli, to the frauds, 570 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,200 and we also knew that this is a one-shot chance. 571 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,640 [suspenseful music] 572 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,320 [Thierry Chikli] One day, we were at Gilbert's house. 573 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,280 He was supposed to receive a package. 574 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,560 We are all here, his wife, me, everything is fine but we don't know what's happening 575 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,440 [doorbell] 576 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,080 When he sees a guy coming up at this house and ringing the doorbell, 577 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,240 he opens the door and he sees that something isn't right, 578 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,880 because the person that gave him the package something's off about him. 579 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Then, he sees exactly what's going on, his first reflex was to call UPS, 580 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,400 "No, it's not me, you sent me a package, 581 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,120 I didn't ask for it, I don't whose it is, come get it." 582 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040 [David Katz in English] We understand that something here is not right. 583 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,600 [radio squawks] 584 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,280 [David Katz] This for me, was the point 585 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,200 to order the police forces to break into the house and to make the arrest. 586 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,880 [suspenseful music] 587 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,920 [dog barking] 588 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,440 [Thierry Chikli] Then it begins, the dogs come into the house, 589 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,840 they searched the aquarium. 590 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,920 When the police found everything, they found two here, three there, two here, 591 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,120 and everything, a good ten phones. 592 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,720 They say, "What's all this?" 593 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,080 " No, I'm a collector." 594 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,800 [laughs] Come on. 595 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,120 We accomplished our mission with him. 596 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,320 [Dominic] Did it feel good? 597 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,520 It felt great. 598 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720 [reporter] The primary suspect Gilbert Shikli, 599 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,440 for defrauding a series of banks and other businesses. 600 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,800 [tense music] 601 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080 [in Hebrew] They have no proof, they just want to take us, we don't know why. 602 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,440 [reporter Hebrew] Judge Ezra Kama was not moved, 603 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,800 and determined that Gilbert Shikli could be extradited. 604 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,520 [Shirly Chikli in Hebrew] They're ruining our lives, ruining them, 605 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,720 because of a stupid story, I don't even know who invented it. 606 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,800 [Shirly Chikli] I didn't know what to do, I didn't know what was happening. 607 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,360 I was pregnant, I spent my entire pregnancy all alone. 608 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680 I was in a very bad state. 609 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,400 I was crying every day with my mobile next to me, waiting for him to call me. 610 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,280 For everything he'd done for me, I'd said, 611 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,040 "I'll always be there for you." 612 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,240 [mid-tempo music] 613 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,760 [Gilbert Chikli] An artist is like a bird. 614 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120 When it flies away, you will never catch it. 615 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,320 [Philippe Huetz] Gilbert Chikli has no fear of authority. 616 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,960 [Éric Moreau] He spends 20 months in jail, and then he's released on bail. 617 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,160 He contacts a movie producer 618 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,600 and he offers to sell the rights to his story. 619 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,040 The producer accepts. 620 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,320 I think he must have been just as convincing as when he was scamming people. 621 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,880 So, the producer decides to pay the bail, 622 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,600 and Gilbert leaves a few days later. 623 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,639 IN 2009, CHIKLI BROKE THE CONDITIONS OF HIS BAIL. 624 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,679 HE ESCAPED BACK TO ISRAEL USING HIS HIDDEN ISRAELI PASSPORT 625 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,960 SHORTLY AFTER, HE BECAME A CONSULTANT ON THE FILM 626 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,719 [Gilbert Chikli] How much is there in the account? 627 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,600 -[character1] 400 million euros. -[exclaims in excitement] 628 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,360 [Gilbert Chikli in fiction film] Do you think you can handle it? 629 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,960 [Gilbert Chikli] He's manipulating them so easily. 630 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,080 [Gilbert Chikli in fiction film] Contacting you was a good decision. 631 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:36,040 [character1] Thank you. 632 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,840 [upbeat music] 633 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,000 [Gilbert Chikli in fiction film] Don't tell your mom. 634 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,679 [Shirly Chikli] Vincent Elbaz played him nicely. 635 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,360 He came to our place to see what Gilbert is like, 636 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,960 to see his mannerisms and copied him very well. 637 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,719 [Éric Moreau] I had him on the phone again 638 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,560 when the movie came out, at the premiere. 639 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:56,639 He called at the film premiere? 640 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,880 [Éric Moreau] Exactly. 641 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,600 I was invited by the producer, 642 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,600 and at the end of the screening he calls. 643 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,760 What did he say? 644 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,240 He tells me he's in Israel. 645 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,560 I tell him, "Oh too bad, you could have come." 646 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,720 [sighs] He answers, 647 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,480 "No, because apparently I have an international arrest warrant on my arse." 648 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,880 He says, "You couldn't tell me?" 649 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,560 -Extraordinary. -[Éric Moreau] Exactly. 650 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,520 DESPITE CHIKLI'S ABSENCE HIS TRIAL GOES AHEAD IN PARIS WITHOUT HIM 651 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,160 [suspenseful music] 652 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,360 [Élise Le Guével] I attended the whole trial. 653 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,720 There were a number of people in the dock, 654 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,640 but not the number one scammer 655 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,240 The one everyone wanted to hear from, Gilbert Chikli, 656 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,520 isn't here, 657 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,720 on the other hand, there is a woman who suddenly arrives, 658 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,560 and we film her without really knowing who she is. 659 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,080 A flamboyant woman, she has a fur coat, and big black Ray-Ban sunglasses. 660 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,080 Why are you filming our case? What's your reason? 661 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,440 [France2 TV crew] Okay, no problem. 662 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,040 [Shirley] I'm the investigator from… 663 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,880 I'm Gilbert Chikli's ex-wife. 664 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,080 Cut that now. 665 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,960 [Shirley] I'm the victim of this case. 666 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,640 They all kept kept it up without me and without giving me any commission. 667 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,720 I am the victim. 668 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,080 There are no victims but me. 669 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,440 [tense music] 670 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,000 So I understand whose lawyers are whose, 671 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,960 and I try to go see Mr Kaminski, Gilbert Chikli's lawyer. 672 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,480 [suspenseful music] 673 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,280 But every break in the proceedings, I see him always on the phone, 674 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,280 very agitated, 675 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,240 and someone next to me tells me, 676 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,560 "It's Gilbert, he's calling him." 677 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,240 [suspenseful music] 678 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480 Chikli would have loved to be there. 679 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,080 [inhales] 680 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,680 Because he can't bear for there to be a show without him. 681 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,520 It's his show and he is not on stage, 682 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,800 he's not there to defend himself, Kaminski is. 683 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,400 [Dominic] Was it difficult to defend him? 684 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,840 Well, any criminal defense is difficult. 685 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,320 But he was a brilliant phone scammer, 686 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,040 probably top three in the world, 687 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,080 maybe even the best. 688 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040 At his level, a little French genius. 689 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,040 A little French genius, maybe with criminal cases, 690 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,560 but still a genius. 691 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,600 [Dominic] Do you think that his victims would call him a genius? 692 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,520 I think that from the victims' side, 693 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,840 what must be terrible for them is the shame. 694 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,000 It's the shame of being fooled by a guy who didn't go to college, 695 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,400 who grew up in one of the poorest neighborhoods in Paris, 696 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,040 who picked up a phone, and by picking up a phone, 697 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,320 took millions from them. 698 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,800 Who are the morons? Who are the dummies? 699 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,240 It's the victims! 700 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,720 The victims are stupid! 701 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,120 [Dominic] But they were manipulated by him. 702 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,720 But the victims were manipulated because they are stupid! 703 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,400 We shouldn't twist the story. 704 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,400 [mid-tempo music] 705 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,880 COURTHOUSE 706 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,160 Gilbert Chikli is at the heart of the debate. 707 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,640 He is not here but he is here, he permeates the room. 708 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,880 He is not here but everyone is talking about him, 709 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,480 he's really the centre of what's at stake. 710 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,440 And yes, I wanted to meet him, it was important for me to meet him. 711 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,360 [soft music] 712 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,560 ISRAEL 713 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,160 So we left for Israel without any guarantees. 714 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,000 I only had his address, 715 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,720 [stutters] 716 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,800 and I told myself, you have to go and knock on his door. 717 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,640 [suspenseful music] 718 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,000 We arrive, we wait, 719 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,880 we were going to ring the doorbell and he comes to the street corner. 720 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,320 He says, "Who are you? What are you doing here?" 721 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,840 He sees the camera. 722 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,480 So I tell him I am a journalist from France2. 723 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,120 [Gilbert Chikli] Come on, enter, I won't leave you at the door. 724 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,560 Gilbert, of course, knows this house. 725 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,880 [Élise Le Guével] So we settle in. 726 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,840 I'm going to have a drink, a small glass of whisky, because… 727 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,120 [Élise Le Guével] Gilbert… 728 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,440 We have this kind of whisky. 729 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,360 Gilbert acts with me like he does with his victims. 730 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,120 I mean, he senses who's in front of him. 731 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,480 He quickly knew that I felt sorry for the victims. 732 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,440 And when the interview starts, he talks about it right away, 733 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,960 acknowledging his guilt, 734 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,920 looking me in the eyes saying, 735 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,520 "First, I'll like to say I'm sorry. I am sorry for all these victims." 736 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,520 Unfortunately, these victims will have suffered a great deal, 737 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,560 Yes, I'm sorry, I apologize and I feel deep regret for these victims. 738 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,800 [Élise Le Guével] During the interview, I thought, 739 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,800 "He is clever, so clever." 740 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,000 Because he sensed who I was right away. 741 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Well, it was a game, it was funny, then I realized it wasn't. 742 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,320 And then at one point he says to us, 743 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,120 "Hey, I'm going to sing you a little song. Hang on, I'm gonna sing you a song" 744 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,160 ♪ I wasn't even 20 years old ♪ 745 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,360 ♪ I only thought about laughing ♪ 746 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,320 ♪ I was living in the present ♪ 747 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,000 ♪ Without thinking about the future ♪ 748 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,520 And he starts singing Aznavour. 749 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,640 He says: "Ah, La Bohème, Paris, Montmartre, La Bohème." 750 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:18,000 And he sings with a beautiful voice, he has a very beautiful, raspy voice. 751 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,640 ♪ Without thinking about the future ♪ 752 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:27,440 [Gilbert Chilki] So that's me, I wrote that. You see I… there you go. 753 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,280 And he keeps glancing at us. 754 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,040 He knows exactly what he is doing at that moment. 755 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,080 He knows perfectly well that he's putting on a big show for us. 756 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,720 [guitar playing] 757 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960 He's a seducer, all the time. 758 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,560 And he always wants to win. 759 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,160 The man in front of me, I don't feel as if he is a retired scammer. 760 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,480 I feel like this is someone who will never stop, who lives for this. 761 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,800 [somber music] 762 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,400 When I leave this house, I ask myself, 763 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,520 "What's his next move? What's he gonna do next?" 764 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,400 And in fact, he was actually getting ready for something much bigger. 765 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,840 [suspenseful music] 766 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,640 [Gilbert Chikli] The human being is afraid of what he doesn't know. 767 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,240 Daring means to shirk away from nothing, 768 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,280 to not be afraid, to be who you want to be. 769 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,760 This is daring. 770 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,400 [soft music] 771 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,400 [reporter] Welcome to Soir3 weekend, 772 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,000 after the three simultaneous attacks that took place tonight. 773 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,840 [suspenseful music] 774 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,480 [Delphine Meillet] It was a dark year of terrorism in France. 775 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,760 Patriotism is pulpable. 776 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,160 This notion of terrorism and menace is everywhere. 777 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,400 It's in the air at the time. 778 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,960 There were French hostages being detained in Syria, in Mali, by terrorists. 779 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,360 Fear is a vulnerability, 780 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,840 and that's typically what Gilbert Chikli likes to exploit. 781 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,200 I think that at one point, he told himself that a telephone call won't be enough… 782 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,600 "So I have to make my story and identity more believable." 783 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,640 So for that, nothing is better than a visual. 784 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:27,840 [soft music] 785 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,680 [Élise Le Guével] He has to be convincing. 786 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,200 He has to find a minister who is important, but also not the President. 787 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,960 Jean-Yves Le Drian is Minister of Defense, 788 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,680 the second most important person in the country, 789 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,120 responsible for the army and the borders. 790 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,640 [Jean-Yves Le Drian] First, we are in the midst of an exceptional situation. 791 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,760 In terms of theatre of operations, threats and conflict. 792 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,280 ACTUAL WHATSAPP VOICE NOTE BETWEEN CHIKLI AND HIS ACCOMPLICE 793 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,720 [Gilbert Chikli] Anyway, I sent you photos of the person. 794 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,840 We need a perfect resemblance. 795 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,840 And in hard plastic, understood? 796 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,480 [mid-tempo music] 797 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,920 [accomplice x] Latex or hard silicone. 798 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,960 [Gilbert Chikli] Without even putting it on, you see it's him. 799 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,160 Because you take it off, put it on and off, over and over, it doesn't tear. 800 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,280 We just want the mouth to be open, that's all. 801 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,480 It's very simple, that's all. 802 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,120 Thank you my dear, love you. 803 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,600 -[church bell] -[suspenseful music] 804 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,160 SAINT EMILION 2017 805 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,840 My name is Guy-Petrus Lignac, 806 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,240 I'm the owner of a Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classé called Château Guadet. 807 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:55,120 This property has been visited by Prime Ministers, many ambassadors, consuls, 808 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,400 so I'm not surprised when I get calls from these kind of people. 809 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,880 [beautiful clarinet music] 810 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,240 It's the January, 23rd, 811 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,880 [birds chirping] 812 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,600 it's about five minutes to one, and I suddenly get a phone call. 813 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,560 -[bird chirping] -[phone rings] 814 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,000 And it's someone who tells me, 815 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,360 "I am minister Mr Le Drian's secretary, 816 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,960 he wants to talk to you, 817 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:34,240 but he is adamant that no one may hear or know what you will be talking about. 818 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,280 So he will talk to you over Skype." 819 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,240 I am a little surprised, but okay, why not, 820 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,680 so he hangs up and I hang up. 821 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,720 I have no idea of what the Minister will ask me. 822 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,800 [phone ringing] 823 00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:54,480 [Guy-Petrus Lignac] I press the button. 824 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:01,120 I see, the minister, Mr Le Drian in front of me. 825 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,920 [slow music] 826 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,880 [Mr Le Drien] I know his face, since we regularly see his face on TV. 827 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,160 Even though he is quite far away from me, 828 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,200 it is the minister's face. 829 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,560 He knows my first name, 830 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,360 It is a very calm voice from someone who's very sure of themselves. 831 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,120 Mr Le Drian tells me, 832 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,920 "Mr Guy-Petrus Lignac, 833 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,840 I have a mission of the utmost importance for you. 834 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,400 Can I trust you?" 835 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520 So I answer, "Yes sir, Minister, you can trust me." 836 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,920 He explains to me that there are French hostages in Mali, 837 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,520 and that they have asked for a ransom from the French government. 838 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,160 [suspenseful music] 839 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,320 We have to get those hostages out of there. 840 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,280 But he tells me that the French government never pays ransoms. 841 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,160 So I'm going to need you. 842 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,280 And I need a lot of money. 843 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,640 Don't worry, you will be reimbursed. 844 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,280 You know the French State won't let you down. 845 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,600 [sharp sound] 846 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,080 [Bell dings] 847 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,960 [Delphine Meillet] The best person to free hostages is the Minister of Defense. 848 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,680 My name is Delphine Meillet, 849 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,480 I am a lawyer at the Paris Bar. I'm an expert in identity theft. 850 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,200 Everything has always been clear with Jean-Yves Le Drian, 851 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,760 who has a very clean image. 852 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,000 DELPHINE MEILLET JEAN-YVES LE DRIAN'S LAWYER 853 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,440 above reproach. 854 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,400 He's a very respected… respectable politician. 855 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,920 A man really serving the State and the interests of France, 856 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,640 and has been for a long time. 857 00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:06,880 A true, legitimate minister. 858 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,400 [suspenseful music] 859 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,240 When you have the Minister of Defense, 860 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,640 Jean-Yves Le Drian on the phone, 861 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,200 you are immediately impressed and honored. 862 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,120 [soft music] 863 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,120 [phone rings] 864 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,600 [phone rings] 865 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,920 [Aga Khan] Hello? 866 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,880 [Gilbert Chikli] Yes your Highness, how are you? 867 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,960 16TH AUGUST 2016: RECORDED CALL WITH THE AGA KHAN 868 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,400 [Aga Khan] Yes, hello. 869 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,280 [Gilbert Chikli] Hello. You are not alone now? 870 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,480 [Aga Khan] No. 871 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,720 [Gilbert Chikli] Do you want me to call you back later? 872 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,840 [Aga Khan] Yes. 873 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,360 [soft music] 874 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,920 The CEO scam targeted people in positions in the middle of companies' hierarchy. 875 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,600 In 2015, he changes targets. 876 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,920 Now the targets are upper class people. 877 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,200 The VIPs, 878 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,560 very important people with very big responsibilities 879 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,720 and a huge amount of money. 880 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,920 [dramatic music] 881 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,720 The Aga Khan is a billionaire, he's a prince, 882 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,960 a spiritual leader at the head of a Shiite Muslim community called the Ismailis, 883 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,600 and for these people, the Aga Khan is literally the Pope. 884 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,040 Gilbert Chikli says to himself, "I'll take on the Pope, no problem." 885 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,200 [crackling line] 886 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,160 [Aga Khan] Hello? 887 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,400 [Gilbert Chikli] Yes, your Highness, it's me again. 888 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,400 GILBERT CHIKLI DENIES THIS IS HIS VOICE 889 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,720 [Gilbert Chikli] Could you get this information within the next few minutes? 890 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,240 Because tomorrow morning we wrap it up, so I'd like to close the case. 891 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,480 [Aga Khan] I can't tell you how long it will take. 892 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,080 [Gilbert Chikli] But call your bank, they will tell you immediately. 893 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,720 [Aga Khan] I think I have a number to contact you, right? Yes? 894 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,920 [Gilbert Chikli] Yes, exactly. 895 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,360 Because it is important that you send me the whole amount, do you understand? 896 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,480 [Aga Khan] Yes, absolutely. 897 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,600 Listen, I'll look into it right away. 898 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,640 [Aga Khan] I can give you 5.8. 899 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:08,520 [Gilbert Chikli] Yes, absolutely. 900 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,800 [Aga Khan] 4.8 million 901 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,280 [Gilbert Chikli] Exactly. 902 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,600 [Aga Khan] And four million. 903 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,640 [soft music] 904 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,800 [Gilbert Chikli] It's in your interest, Your Highness. 905 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,880 [Aga Khan] Okay. 906 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,600 I will see if I can contact the bank. 907 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,080 [Gilbert Chikli] Very good. Very good, thank you very much. 908 00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:34,640 OVER THE COURSE OF THREE DAYS THE AGA KHAN TRANSFERED OVER 20 MILLION EUROS 909 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,960 TO THE CALLER'S BANK ACCOUNT 910 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,560 20 MILLION EUROS 911 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,760 [scrambling sound] 912 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,920 [Gilbert Chikli] Creativity is something you put in place, 913 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,680 you invent something that never existed before. 914 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,240 [scrambling sound] 915 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,360 [Gilbert Chikli] I wanted to succeed. 916 00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:57,840 In my mind, I wasn't a crook. 917 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,800 I was a person who managed to convince, that's all. 918 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,680 No more, no less. 919 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,400 [suspenseful music] 920 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,120 [Delphine Meillet] He is using the resources and power of the French State, 921 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,200 the image and authority of a minister on the phone. 922 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,920 He would also make you feel honored to be contacted by the minister, 923 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,040 meaning your are trustworthy, since you were asked to keep the secret. 924 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,360 There are a lots of aspects of humanity being exploited by this scam. 925 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,160 [suspenseful music] 926 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,560 He'll use your sentimental, patriotic feelings, 927 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,280 to put pressure on you with speed, 928 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,240 sense of urgency, danger, responsibility, honor, 929 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,320 and with that all added up, you will give in. 930 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,800 How do you resist? It is very hard. 931 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,440 [soft music] 932 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,440 [Élise Le Guével] It doesn't surprise me that 933 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,800 with aplomb and authority, 934 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,040 and by pushing the right buttons, once again, 935 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,840 "terrorism, help us, France will pay you back," 936 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,480 he gets them to pay. 937 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,880 Always with the same methods. 938 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,200 Self-confidence, lots of self-confidence. 939 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,000 This is the hardest to swallow, being completely fooled by a scammer. 940 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,840 a jeans seller from Belleville. 941 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,160 Gilbert Chikli never loses composure. 942 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,240 Never. 943 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,360 The only time he gets angry is when he realizes he has been fooled. 944 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,480 [French organ music] 945 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,480 I am Sophie Grenier, 946 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,160 I'm the Financial Director of the Landes Chamber of Commerce and Industry. 947 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,200 I am shall we say, a meticulous person. 948 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,960 I like precision, organization. 949 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,440 I'm like a flight attendant. 950 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,720 [soft music] 951 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,440 On February first, 2017, 952 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:06,000 I am at the dentist to schedule my next appointment, 953 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,800 and in that moment, I get a phone call. 954 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:16,680 He tells me that Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian wants to have a video conference. 955 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,800 Well, I have to pick up my son in school, 956 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,960 and at the same time I have to organize, 957 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,640 or at least participate in, 958 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:27,280 a video conference with the Minister of Defense. 959 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,760 This was very far-fetched. 960 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,680 A Wednesday unlike any other. 961 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,640 So when the time comes, I get connected 962 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:42,000 and I find myself in front of the Minister of Defense, Jean-Yves Le Drian. 963 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:49,000 But after the video conference, I think it's a joke, I don't know if it is real. 964 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,920 [Gilbert Chikli] I just sent you a very confidential document, 965 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:54,880 tell me if you received it? 966 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,800 [Sophie Grenier] Yes, I did. 967 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,680 [Sophie Grenier] To reassure me, he sends me a letter 968 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,720 in which he tells me that this operation is completely guaranteed. 969 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,680 [Sophie Grenier] Let me have a look at it, maybe we can read it together. 970 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,240 [Gilbert Chikli] Yes, go ahead. 971 00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:13,240 [Sophie Grenier] "Following our video conference 972 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,600 concerning the liberation of a French national held in Mali…" 973 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,000 Wow, that's really terrible. 974 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:18,960 [Gilbert Chikli] Yes. 975 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,880 The letter he sent me isn't justified 976 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,960 and it is full of spelling mistakes. 977 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,600 [suspenseful music] 978 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,600 MISTER SOPHIE GRENIER 979 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,680 [inhales] So, after this call, I ask myself, "what the hell is this?" 980 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,200 This is so strange, what's going on? 981 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,400 I really don't understand, so I start wondering. 982 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,080 So, I call my General manager and I tell him the story. 983 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,280 He says to me, 984 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,040 "Sophie, it's really a scam, it's not possible. 985 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,600 Listen, I'll ask around to confirm that it is really a scam." 986 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,840 So, I call the police. 987 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,560 We have an individual who spends his time, calling embassies and consulates. 988 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,960 MICKAEL MANDINE HEAD OF SCAM AND FRAUD POLICE NATIONALE 989 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,480 He would call around 180 organizations. 990 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,200 [production] Did you think it might be Gilbert Chikli? 991 00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:16,560 I already had in mind that Gilbert Chikli wasn’t far away. 992 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,440 [Dominic] When you heard this story, what did you think? 993 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,760 [stutters] I was shocked. 994 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,000 [stutters] For me, this kind of a fraud… 995 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:25,720 unbelievable. 996 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,560 To prepare and to wear a mask, 997 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:34,200 and then target with video calls very high-level officials, 998 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:40,080 and to persuade them to send money to free prisoners of war. 999 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,600 This is incredible. 1000 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,800 One thing for sure, that at that moment, 1001 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,240 we all understood that our rival is an expert. 1002 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,840 [upbeat music] 1003 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,440 [David Katz] We had to find the identity of the man behind the mask. 1004 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,560 My mission is to make him believe that I'm going to pay him the money, 1005 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,960 and for that he has to give me a European bank account number 1006 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,320 that would allow them to trace the whole network. 1007 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,560 [soft music] 1008 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,320 Since he tried to play me, 1009 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,920 I figure that I'm going to play him. 1010 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,040 Two days later, I'm at home and he calls me, my mission begins. 1011 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,160 [Sophie Grenier] Hello 1012 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:27,000 FEBRUARY 3RD, 2017: RECORDING OF THE PHONE Call BETWEEN SOPHIE AND THE FAKE MINISTER. 1013 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:27,680 GILBERT CHIKLI DENIES INVOLVEMENT 1014 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,320 [Gilbert Chikli] Yes, Mrs Grenier, so then, how are you making your payment? 1015 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,080 On the internet? Tell me how you will proceed. 1016 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,760 [Sophie Grenier] Well yes, I will pay via the internet, 1017 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,680 I'm going to connect to my different banks and that's it. 1018 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,760 [Gilbert Chikli] What are your banks? 1019 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,960 -[Sophie Grenier] I have BNP, -[Gilbert Chikli] Yeah. 1020 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,080 [Sophie Grenier] I have the Caisse d'Épargne. 1021 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,960 [Gilbert Chikli] So we can take out between 800 and 900 per day then? 1022 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,000 -[Sophie Grenier] Yes. -[Gilbert Chikli] Understood. 1023 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,600 I'm trying to be very focused on what I say, 1024 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:59,640 not to make any mistake that could lead him to think we're setting a trap for him. 1025 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,480 We are on a tightrope. 1026 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,280 [Gilbert Chikli] Alright, I'll call you back in exactly half an hour, 1027 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,600 Be available. 1028 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,800 -[Sophie Grenier] Okay. -[Gilbert Chikli] Goodbye, thank you. 1029 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,400 -[Sophie Grenier] Goodbye, thank you sir. -[Gilbert Chikli] Goodbye. 1030 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,520 [Dominic] Do you have the impression that he believed you? 1031 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,640 Oh yes. 1032 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,400 I'm under the impression he believes me, that's what makes it fun tricking a thief. 1033 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,080 I go to the police station. 1034 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,240 There are several of us in the office. 1035 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,640 We set up a listening system and then we wait for the famous phone call. 1036 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,800 There's a great deal of tension. 1037 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,280 Everyone is looking at my phone, we are all waiting for the call, 1038 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,680 nobody moves, there isn't any noise. 1039 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,120 [tense music] 1040 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,960 MASKED NUMBER 1041 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:54,120 When the phone rings, it is the big moment, the finale. 1042 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,160 [Gilbert Chikli] Are you in front of your computer? 1043 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,560 [Sophie Grenier] Yes, I am. 1044 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,800 MASKED NUMBER 1045 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,360 I'm in the middle of doing fake work on a real computer. 1046 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,360 [tense music] 1047 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,840 So I say, "Give me the account number." 1048 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,240 And says, "No, we're going to do it together." 1049 00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,000 [Gilbert Chikli For the first operation, we have to witness the transfer, 1050 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,200 it is very important. 1051 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,280 [Sophie Grenier] Okay… 1052 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,080 [sighs] Ah, I was thinking that he would give me the account number, 1053 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,480 I would hang up the phone and the case would be closed. 1054 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,440 It's getting complicated. 1055 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,800 [Gilbert Chikli] So, I'm giving you the number. S… four… three. 1056 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,680 [Sophie Grenier] S… four… three 1057 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,920 I type each number meticulously after he says it. 1058 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,160 [Gilbert Chikli] nine, zero 1059 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,160 [Sophie Grenier] The room is completely still. 1060 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,640 -[Gilbert Chikli] 36. -[Sophie Grenier] Yes. 1061 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,840 I'm waiting for the last number of the account. 1062 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,640 -[Sophie Grenier] Yes. -[Gilbert Chikli] 83. 1063 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,800 [Sophie Grenier] I'm ready to type. 1064 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,440 [Gilbert Chikli] 42. 1065 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,360 [Sophie Grenier] He gives the last number of the account. 1066 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,000 [Gilbert Chikli] 55. 1067 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,160 [sound] 1068 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,200 And I say, hang on, enter transfer validation. 1069 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,320 Oh, I tell him there's a problem. 1070 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,640 [Sophie Grenier] Ah, it seems to me like it's not working. 1071 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,080 No, it doesn't seem like… no, not working 1072 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,360 [Sophie Grenier] At this point he gets angry. 1073 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,840 [Gilbert Chikli] This isn't normal. 1074 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,360 The line is very good, so check it, 1075 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,040 there's no reason it shouldn't work. 1076 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,760 -[Sophie Grenier] And he hung up. -[Gilbert Chikli] Goodbye. 1077 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,360 I think he understood that he'd been had. 1078 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,680 [David Katz] We had the bank account of the fraudster who committed the fraud. 1079 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,600 We come to the evidential conclusion 1080 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,680 that the man behind the mask is Mr Chikli. 1081 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,600 [suspenseful music] 1082 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:53,200 When I realized that this was the same guy 1083 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,760 that I was part of the investigations 1084 00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,240 concerning his first frauds ten years ago, 1085 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,400 I was quite surprised, 1086 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,200 because to be frank, 1087 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,280 you need to be bold to execute this kind of fraud against a victim. 1088 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,440 [car engine starts] 1089 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,400 We decide to drive to the destination of Chikli's house. 1090 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,280 We discovered that Mr Chikli had left Israeli ground for Ukraine. 1091 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,880 [suspenseful music] 1092 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,960 [Gilbert Chikli] Lose? I don't lose. 1093 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,640 Nothing is easy, especially not escaping. 1094 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,080 Disappear? Why not? 1095 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,640 [soft music] 1096 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,240 [David Katz] There is a city in Ukraine called Uman, that 1097 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,720 is very important for Jewish pilgrims 1098 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,760 who go there to pray on the grave of Rebbe Nachman. 1099 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,640 [mid-tempo music] 1100 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,520 [Shirly Chikli] He wanted to go to Ukraine to do a… How do you say? Pigrinage? Pigri? 1101 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:16,560 [Dominic] A pilgrimage. 1102 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:17,760 Yeah, that. 1103 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,760 He wanted to go to say thank you. No, really. 1104 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,680 -[Dominic] It's not true. Is it? -Yes. In Ukraine, in Uman. 1105 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,760 [Dominic] He went there for a religious trip? 1106 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,480 Yes, he wanted to go to Uman to see the rabbi. 1107 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,800 [mid-tempo music] 1108 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,440 [Shirly Chikli] He was always there for his family. 1109 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,680 He spoiled the children. 1110 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,080 Gilbert was like a Robin Hood. 1111 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,400 [Dominic] Why? 1112 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,080 Because he always wanted to help the poor, 1113 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,640 but to help the poor, he had to do something that isn't… 1114 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,280 following the rules. 1115 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,960 [suspenseful music] 1116 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:11,720 [Mickaël Mandine] In this case, the main victims transferred 73 million euros. 1117 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,600 It was pretty incredible. 1118 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,480 We are informed that Gilbert Chikli is in Ukraine. 1119 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,840 We need him extradited. 1120 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,720 [upbeat music] 1121 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,120 [Mickaël Mandine] We have to be very quick, before he leaves a second time. 1122 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,840 [suspenseful music] 1123 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,880 [David Katz]In Ukraine, the sand-clock started to tick 1124 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:38,560 because we had to speed up all the proceedings in order to arrest him there. 1125 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,600 [radio squawks] 1126 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,520 [Mickaël Mandine] An arrest warrant is issued. 1127 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,080 [voice on radio] 1128 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,760 [Mickaël Mandine] The Ukrainian police follows every move. 1129 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,760 -[recorded voice] I copy your message. -[Mickaël] They stay on him. 1130 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,840 [suspenseful music] 1131 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,400 [recorded voice, inaudible] 1132 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,840 [Mickaël Mandine] I copy your message 1133 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,080 [inaudible] 1134 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,080 [police] Police! 1135 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,360 Hands behind your back. 1136 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,240 His face. Hands behind your back. 1137 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,200 [Mickaël Mandine] When he gets arrested, 1138 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,960 the Ukrainian police took three phones from him. 1139 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,440 Inside, all his WhatsApps, all the photos, the videos, 1140 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:26,480 and we find something very precious for us and the investigation. 1141 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,320 [mid-tempo music] 1142 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,000 [Mickaël Mandine] Despite the blurriness and poor quality of the video, 1143 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,000 the figure really looks like Jean-Yves Le Drian. 1144 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,720 [mid-tempo music] 1145 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,840 [Ludovic Elbaz] Of course, but how many times do I have to ask you? 1146 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,040 Let him do what has to be done, and let's get out of here already! 1147 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,200 [in Arabic] If he needs something, tell him to call me. Okay. Bye. 1148 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,720 So, what do you want to know? 1149 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,040 LUDOVIC ELBAZ EXTRADITION LAWYER 1150 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,680 I've been a lawyer for ten years, 1151 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,760 I have an office in Paris and an office in Israel. 1152 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,960 Hello? 1153 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,840 I just landed, I'm at Charles de Gaulle airport, and I get a call. 1154 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,920 I am told Gilbert and his associate have been arrested in Ukraine. 1155 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,320 Arrest warrant, extradition, right now, they're in jail. 1156 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,320 I have to react super quickly, get a plane to get back to Ukraine. 1157 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,760 When I got my permit to go see them in jail, 1158 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,880 it was quite extraordinary. 1159 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,320 It's an insane context. 1160 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,840 The prison guards are members of the army, 1161 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,840 there are 50 prisoners per cell, 1162 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,040 there are two-meter tall prisoners covered in tattoos with swastikas in the back. 1163 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,880 It's nothing like a French prison. 1164 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,200 [tense music] 1165 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,280 [phone rings] 1166 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,560 [Shirly Chikli] I receive a call from Ukraine. 1167 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,320 And he tells me, 1168 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,600 "Shirly, Interpol have caught me." 1169 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,320 My heart sank. 1170 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,080 "I wasn't feeling well, I cried, and I said, 1171 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,840 "What? I'm on my way." 1172 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,920 I waited for the morning, I went to the courthouse, 1173 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,240 and I found Gilbert in a cage. 1174 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,600 He tells me, "Shirly, sorry, Shirly, sorry." 1175 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,120 I say, "Don't worry, I'm with you." 1176 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,360 I grabbed his hand and said, "I won't abandon you. 1177 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,920 I will be with you, I'm not leaving Ukraine until you get out of here." 1178 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,080 And I did everything I could. 1179 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,720 Everything he wanted brought inside, I brought it inside. 1180 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,880 I brought him a bed. 1181 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,040 So he could sleep well, even vodka, alcohol, everything. 1182 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,080 [Gilbert Chikli] Let's toast with the vodka Absolut. 1183 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,640 [indistinct chatter and background music] 1184 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,240 [accomplice x] Here in Kyiv, in prison. 1185 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,320 [Gilbert Chikli] Come on, you're ready? 1186 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,880 [accomplice x] To our release God willing. 1187 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,040 [Gilbert Chikli] To our release and our millions. 1188 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,360 [accomplice x] Positive things. 1189 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,080 [Shirly Chikli] I brought him meat. 1190 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,920 [accomplice x] Here is our lunch. 1191 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,920 I even had a fridge delivered to him. 1192 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,640 [accomplice x] Here is the fridge. 1193 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,600 Here's your purchase of the day, Gilbert. 1194 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,160 [Gilbert Chikli] for today's purchase, I have a fridge so we can have ribeye. 1195 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,080 [Gilbert Chikli] Fuck you to those 1196 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,720 who thought we were suffering. 1197 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,080 We are bosses and we'll keep being bosses. Bam! 1198 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,200 [laughter] 1199 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,600 [Gilbert Chikli] Fuck the French justice system. Fuck you, I'm not coming. 1200 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,920 And even if I come, fuck you anyway. 1201 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,200 [accomplice x] Right, thank you, fuck you too. 1202 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,600 AFTER SPENDING THREE MONTHS IN A UKRAINIAN PRISON 1203 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,840 CHIKLI IS EXTRADITED BACK TO FRANCE 1204 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,400 AGAIN 1205 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,080 [tense music] 1206 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,720 [Gilbert Chikli] Believe me, 1207 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,480 I could have done much more than this. 1208 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,480 I could have entered any system, 1209 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,920 I could have entered a political system, whatever you want. 1210 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,400 I swear, this is true. 1211 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,040 [sad music] 1212 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,560 [Mickaël Mandine] It is certain that if Chikli hadn't been arrested in Ukraine, 1213 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,440 we would have faced a new wave of scams. 1214 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,360 On the phone we seized, he has masks of several political figures. 1215 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,400 [Gilbert Chikli] Can you look at Macron please? 1216 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,960 But we mainly notice on his phone 1217 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,080 that he is trying to find a mask of Albert of Monaco. 1218 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,600 [Gilbert Chikli] You put it down and the plastic stays straight, alright? 1219 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,320 Without putting it on, you see that it's the prince. 1220 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,160 [soft music] 1221 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,600 [Mickaël Mandine] I believe a large scale scam was being put together. 1222 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,320 What we saw with Jean-Yves Le Drian, 1223 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,320 we would have seen it with Albert of Monaco. 1224 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,160 How do I defend the fact that Gilbert had the mask of Prince Albert on his phone? 1225 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,800 Maybe he has a particular affection for Monaco. 1226 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:11,280 I don't know. 1227 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,720 [suspenseful music] 1228 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,440 [reporter] Another trial is starting this afternoon, 1229 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,400 of a rather extraordinary scam. 1230 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,960 Listen to this, seven people are on trial for having impersonated 1231 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:28,280 the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jean-Yves Le Drian. 1232 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,120 Was the office similar to yours? 1233 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,920 They were… talented, yes. 1234 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,440 And unfortunately some people were victims. 1235 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,400 They imitated my voice well but it can't be me, 1236 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,320 that's it. [chuckles] 1237 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,760 Well, it could be a fabulous movie script 1238 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,240 but the true story will play out here this afternoon. 1239 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,240 [reporter] The alleged mastermind behind these operations, Gilbert Chikli, 1240 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,000 King of Scams, a 54-year-old Franco-Israeli. 1241 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,160 With just a phone, 1242 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,840 getting people to hand him bags with thousands of euros. 1243 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,600 It is absolutely humiliating, 1244 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,400 and he created extremely severe narcissistic wounds on his victims. 1245 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,320 [Delphine Meillet] I discover Gilbert Chikli there in the dock, 1246 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,600 and I see he has a sort of fan club there. 1247 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,840 He has a sort of support committee and they're so loud 1248 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,680 that the judge has to ask them to be silent when he is being questioned. 1249 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,560 [suspenseful music] 1250 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,800 Gilbert Chikli has a mixture of flamboyance and denial. 1251 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:34,520 "Not at all, look at me, I'm not the genius they say I am, 1252 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,800 you're giving me way too much credit. 1253 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,479 Look at me, I am tired, I'm I sick, leave me alone." 1254 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,720 He was playing a role with the lawyers, 1255 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,120 playing a role with the judge, with the prosecutor he knew so well. 1256 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,640 [mid-tempo music] 1257 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,399 [Gilbert Chikli] I like a challenge, I've always liked a challenge. 1258 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,560 It's like a boxing match, you always want to be the world champion. 1259 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,120 I don't lose. 1260 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,000 Either I win, or I learn. 1261 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,080 And when you have this ability, you don't fear anything. 1262 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,319 [mid-tempo music] 1263 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,319 In fact, I think that Gilbert Chikli is a police fantasy, 1264 01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:19,880 and that too much has been made of him. 1265 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,359 [Stéphane Sebag] During the trial, we start analyzing the images. 1266 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,040 We see a man in make-up, 1267 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,319 STEPHANE SEBAG, CHIKLI'S LAWYER TWO 1268 01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,160 apparently sitting at the desk of a minister, 1269 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,880 and the court will ask itself the question as to whether it is indeed Gilbert Chikli. 1270 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,080 [suspenseful music] 1271 01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:45,399 [Delphine Meillet] He claims the character is much taller and bigger than him, 1272 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,200 so it can't possibly be him. 1273 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,760 [Stéphane Sebag] The forearms of the person in makeup are hairless. 1274 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:58,600 Gilbert Chikli has hair all over his arms. 1275 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:03,360 He's going to say "You can see my arms, it can't be me." 1276 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,560 [mid-tempo music] 1277 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,440 We make him listen to the voices recorded by the victims. 1278 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,840 From then on, he won't say a single word. 1279 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,080 And on the third day of the hearing, we hear the voice recordings. 1280 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,040 And I can tell you… 1281 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,800 There are powerful and important moments in the hearing and this was one of them. 1282 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,000 [phone rings] 1283 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,160 [Aga Khan] Hello? 1284 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,160 [Gilbert] Yes, do you have an update? It's in your interest, your Highness. 1285 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,240 [Aga Khan] Okay. 1286 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,200 [Ludovic Elbaz] It's 100% not Gilbert. 1287 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:38,920 [Gilbert Chikli] So I'm calling you because 1288 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,880 we have to transfer you the funds… 1289 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,600 [Aga Khan] What time can you call me back? 1290 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,560 [Gilbert Chikli] In about an hour if you'd like. 1291 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,680 [Aga Khan] Okay. 1292 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,720 [Dominic] Isn't this Gilbert Chikli? 1293 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,720 You can't believe I'm going to answer your question. 1294 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,960 Seriously. 1295 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,720 [Gilbert Chikli] If I call you back in an hour, 1296 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,240 give me the exact costs so I know how much I need to transfer back to you. 1297 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,080 Ah, it's extraordinary, because it's really his voice. 1298 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,800 There is no doubt. It's incredible, 1299 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,320 it's… it's him, without a doubt. 1300 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,520 -[Dominic] It's him? -[Sophie Grenier] It's him. 1301 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,120 -[Dominic] Are you 100% sure? -Oh yes, I'm sure. 1302 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,280 -[Dominic] No doubt? -Absolutely no doubt. 1303 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,760 The voice that we heard for two days, Chikli 1304 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,560 was exactly the same as the one in the recordings. 1305 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,680 It was an exceptional moment. 1306 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,480 Everyone recognized the voice, no ambiguity. At all. 1307 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,800 [mid-tempo music] 1308 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,080 Now justice. 1309 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,800 The fake Le Drian sentenced to seven and eleven years in prison 1310 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,480 by the Paris Criminal Court. 1311 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,760 Gilbert Chikli, 54, 1312 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,360 guilty of assuming the identity of Le Drian. 1313 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:05,200 BETWEEN 2005 AND 2017 GILBERT CHIKLI SCAMMED OVER 100 MILLION EUROS 1314 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:11,080 HE WAS SENTENCED TO 11 YEARS IN PRISON AND FINED TWO MILLION EUROS 1315 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,760 I felt awful. 1316 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,480 I looked at him with tears in my eyes. 1317 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,320 I was alone. 1318 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,840 I couldn't live like this, without Gilbert. 1319 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:31,640 I go outside to breathe a little, and I see a journalist. 1320 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,920 He says to me, "Who are you?" 1321 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,080 I told him, "I am Gilbert Chikli's wife." 1322 01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:41,320 And he laughs. 1323 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,800 I asked him, "Why are you laughing?" 1324 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,640 And he told me, "She is Gilbert Chikli's wife." 1325 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,120 I didn't even ask who this woman was. I didn't want to believe in anything. 1326 01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,240 I said, "That's it, stop." 1327 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,160 [tense music] 1328 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,240 SINCE HIS ARREST IN UKRAINE, 1329 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,160 GILBERT CHIKLI HAS STARTED AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER WOMAN 1330 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,840 [Shirly Chikli] For fifteen years, I did everything for him. 1331 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,400 I waged war with everyone for him. 1332 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,720 After everything you give to someone, 1333 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,520 in the end, it's over in two seconds. 1334 01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:29,760 My children have suffered everything. 1335 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,720 Up till now, my little one, she cries. 1336 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,320 She cries at night, she still wants her dad. 1337 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,840 She doesn't understand why he is not there. 1338 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,120 It wasn't supposed to end like this. 1339 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,480 [sad music] 1340 01:13:53,880 --> 01:14:00,000 [Élise Le Guével] Gilbert Chikli is colorful, funny, sarcastic, seductive. 1341 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,120 He pretends to be Arsène Lupin, 1342 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,480 a gentleman thief. 1343 01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:08,280 I steal from the rich, I am just clever. 1344 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,360 But in fact, he doesn't steal from the rich. 1345 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:15,520 He crushes conscientious people who want to do good. 1346 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,200 He wants to be Robin Hood, but he crushed people. 1347 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,120 [sad music] 1348 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,720 It was a massive blow that would prevent me from holding a pencil 1349 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,880 for more than two years. 1350 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:34,560 My boss fired me, I became unemployed. 1351 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,320 [inhales] 1352 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,320 I started seeing a therapist. 1353 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,840 I was really at my lowest point. 1354 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,920 He's a guy that has no morals, who destroys lives. 1355 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:56,480 The scammers contacted the entire French administration. 1356 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,720 It's an extremely serious scam that could have put French foreign policy at risk. 1357 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,040 We have to remember that at the time, there really were French hostages 1358 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,320 who were really killed in 2015. 1359 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,240 This case could have been much worse. 1360 01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:19,560 Chikli could have had blood on his hands, we got very close. 1361 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,400 I feel it will never be over for him. 1362 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:26,920 He will die on stage. 1363 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,880 [somber music] 1364 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,960 [Gilbert Chikli] If I had to leave a message for all who will listen to me, 1365 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:42,080 first of all, I would like to say sorry, from the bottom of my heart. 1366 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,520 But I am Gilbert Chikli, 1367 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,320 and I will always be Gilbert Chikli, 1368 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,920 and I will leave as Gilbert Chikli. That's all. 1369 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,840 [upbeat piano music] 1370 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,440 SHIRLY NUMBER TWO HAS FILED FOR DIVORCE 1371 01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:07,440 AND IS NOW TRAVELING THE WORLD AS A TOP DJ 1372 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:14,360 SHIRLEY NUMBER ONE HAS PUT HER LIFE WITH GILBERT BEHIND HER 1373 01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:18,000 AND TAKES TIME FOR HERSELF 1374 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,480 SOPHIE CONTEMPLATED A JOB IN THE SECRET SERVICE 1375 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,120 BUT HAS DECIDED TO KEEP WORKING AS A CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER 1376 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,520 GUY-PETRUS STILL PLAYS HOST TO MANY FAMOUS POLITICIANS AT THE CHATEAU GUADET 1377 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,920 BUT POLITELY DECLINED TO PAY ANY MONEY TO THE FAKE MINISTER 1378 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,240 [bird chirps] 1379 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,280 [fast-paced music] 1380 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,520 Subtitle Translation by: Adefoluke Adebayo