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[eerie music]

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[static buzzing]

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Chad kept calling

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after the sounds,
and the sounds would continue

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almost like we're chasing
them through the room.

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What was that?

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That was like a hitting sound.
Did you hear that?

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Yeah.

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Back there.

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[inaudible]

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[dark rock music]

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-That was here.
-[Justin] Yeah.

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The footsteps, here.

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♪ The table parts our stares,
separates our glares ♪

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♪ How did we concede

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♪ And are we this naive?

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♪ A life that was once ours

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♪ Slippin' through our claws

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♪ The beast in my disease

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♪ Has overtaken me

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♪ How has this now gone
suddenly so wrong ♪

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♪ I am on my knees

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-♪ But I know better
-Jesus Christ.

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♪ This is not my life

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♪ And these are not my dreams

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♪ And this is not the side

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♪ That I had hoped we'd see
♪ This is not my life

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♪ The dirt patch
we now breathe ♪

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♪ I'm begging on my knees

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♪ Oh

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♪ But I know better

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♪

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[Chad] 74 minutes,

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that's what I was left with.

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Over the last 25 years,
I've engaged

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in over 500 paranormal
investigations

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in five different countries,
on three different continents,

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in which I've spent
over 3,000 hours in the dark

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trying to document
paranormal activity.

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And in the end, I was left
with 74 minutes of footage

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that I could not explain.

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But the answers
that I sought out

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that took me on this
incredible journey,

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I did find in those 74 minutes,

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I did.

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And it was incredibly
important to me

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that I found those answers.

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And now that I found them,

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I'm going to share
the most compelling

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pieces of evidence
with all of you.

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But as far as how did I
end up on this journey,

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you know, when I think
back to my childhood,

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I was a-- a normal kid
like anybody else.

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I wanted to be
a baseball player.

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My dreams were to
be a major leaguer.

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I mean, that was it.
The big leagues, man.

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But it's funny, you know, when
I look at this picture here,

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of me on the baseball team,

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you know,
I looked like, you know,

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such a-- a-- a normal kid,
and I suppose I was.

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But when I was done with
school or done with practice,

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I would go home

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to the most bizarre events
and would just experience

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things that completely
blew my belief system apart.

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Um, until I moved into a haunted
house at the age of 12 in Iowa,

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my family had never
even discussed

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ghosts or anything like that.

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But yeah, moved into
this incredibly haunted house.

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It was a negative haunting.

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It had a profound effect on me.

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And in the beginning,
I didn't even know

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I was becoming
a paranormal investigator.

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I was just trying
to document things

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so I could share them with my
friends and with my girlfriend

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so she didn't think I was crazy.

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But the paranormal field
is weird.

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For every answer you get,

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there's, like,
two more questions.

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And the more places that I went,

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the more I would see

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that almost each
haunting was different.

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Different things would happen.

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But yet I would hear people,

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you know, would openly,
you know, laugh and, you know--

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and say, "Oh, God, you believe
in ghosts," you know?

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And they'd give me
a hard time and--

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And then some people
absolutely believe.

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So I was just on this journey

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to find out the truth for me.

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And through a series of very

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uh, weird zigs and zags,

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I wound up actually
doing this professionally.

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If you follow my career,

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first off, thank you
for doing so.

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Uh, you know that I've been
on Paranormal State,

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I've been on, um, several shows.

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The Ghost Prophecies, Ghosted,

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I've made a number
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American Ghost Hunter,

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Terror Normal, A Blood Red Sky,
and most recently,

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the Sir Nofaceseries,
but this film specifically

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is important to me

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because I don't think
anybody has done it yet.

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I don't think any
paranormal investigator has

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openly put out
all of his evidence.

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And it's important
for me to do that,

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not because I'm some
sort of, you know,

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paranormal salesman,
because I'm not.

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Um, I'm not attempting
to sell you, the viewer,

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on the fact
that ghosts are real.

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Quite the opposite,

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I'm showing you
why I believe they're real.

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That's what's important to me.

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And my hope is that you're
inspired to go find out

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your own answers,

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that you would watch this
and go, "You know what?

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I really want to know what it's
like to experience this stuff."

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Um, now, I realize there's going
to be people that watch this

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that are highly skeptical, too.

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And if your approach
from the beginning is,

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"Oh, he's just faking it,"

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well, listen,
we can fake anything, right?

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I mean, like
in today's world with CGI,

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anything can be faked.

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So, all I can do
is tell you the truth,

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which is that everything you're
going to see is authentic.

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It's all real.

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We tried to debunk
all of it and couldn't.

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Um, does that mean that

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we got it right on every
single piece of footage?

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I would like to believe so.

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But look, part of investigating
is getting things wrong and--

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and thinking you have
something figured out,

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and then, you know,
later on you realize,

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"Oh, no, it wasn't that."

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Or finding an answer
to something later on,

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which-- it happens both ways.

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So, I'm really excited
for you guys to see this--

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which I'm going to present
it in three chapters,

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the first being
audible evidence,

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the second chapter being
photographic evidence,

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and the third chapter
being visual evidence.

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And like with any good film,

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as it moves along,

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it will become more
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Let's do this.

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When it comes
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what I'm referring to
are things that we can hear,

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such as EVPs
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or even knocks and bangs
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Which this first example that
I'm going to share with you

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took place at the five-story,
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former tuberculosis hospital
known as Waverly Hills.

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What you're about to hear was
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the second night
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in which we can
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nobody was in the building
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[enhanced audio disturbance]

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[metal door slams]

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[distant screaming]

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[metal door slams]

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[distant screaming]

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[metal door slams]

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[distant screaming]

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The following
footage was filmed

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at the Villisca Axe
Murder House,

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which is known
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of a mysterious unsolved murder

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in which the killer

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was somehow able
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and two adults
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during the bloody attack.

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In this clip,
after hours of silence,

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Investigator Ryan Buell and I
decided to begin provoking,

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which I moved into the attic,

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as it's believed
to be the location

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in which the axe murderer
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as the family went to sleep.

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And as you'll see,

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it didn't take long
to get a response

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as three loud striking
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All right, so, we've separated.

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I'm now in the children's room,

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and Chad's in the attic.

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[three striking sounds]

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-[Chad] Holy shit.
-[Ryan] I heard that.

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[Chad] That's the shit
I'm talking about.

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[three striking sounds]

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Holy shit.

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[three striking sounds]

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Holy shit.

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[Chad] That's the shit
I'm talking about.

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There's all kinds of sounds
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that seem to be almost
circulating around me.

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In this footage,

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after our initial walk-through
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my friend Adrian and I were left
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only to discover hours later

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that we were somehow locked
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Immediately after
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Tina, who was 30 minutes away,

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the following occurred.

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-[Adrian] See that?
-[Chad] Wow.

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That was a legit orb.
That was a real orb.

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[Adrian] Can you--
can you pass by again?

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[Chad] Well, in this shot,
you can hear me tell Adrian,

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"That was a real orb."

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And the reason I did is

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because
for the first time in my life,

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I saw an orb with my own eyes.

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Once we got out of there,
we couldn't wait to rewind

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the footage to check it out.

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But what truly
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was the EVP that we found
after analyzing this footage.

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That was a legit orb.

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[Chad] That was a real orb.

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That was a legit orb.

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[Chad] That was a real orb.

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It's also important to
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do not have an accent
as we're from Los Angeles.

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While this EVP,
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has a noticeable Southern drawl.

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That was a legit orb.

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[Chad] That was a real orb.

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That was a legit orb.

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[Chad] That was a real orb.

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Believed to be haunted
by the Sauk Indians

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who lost their lives
protecting Chief Black Hawk

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during his final stand
in Davenport, Iowa,

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this footage, which was filmed

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at the Davenport Bag
and Paper Company building,

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documents some of the most
responsive paranormal activity

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that I've ever experienced.

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You have to hit something hard.

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See, if that's you, we still
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I know that was loud,
but you have to even be louder.

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[metal clings]

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Holy shit. That was louder.
Do you think that was louder?

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Dude, I'm getting freaked.

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Did you hear that?
That was louder.

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-Yeah.
-[Chad] Okay.

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I just asked you
to be louder, and you were.

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Move something in this room.

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-[knocking]
-Holy shit. Whoa!

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What was that?

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-Holy Jesus!
-[Justin laughs]

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If that was you that just
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you're gonna have to
do it a lot louder.

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A hell of a lot louder.

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-[knocking]
-Oh, shit.

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-Whoa! Whoa.
-[Justin laughs]

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It's-- it's coincidental.

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I would say it's overly
coincidental

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if something isn't doing it,
because it's been twice now

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where you said "Louder,"
and within--

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The first time, it was within
a three-second period,

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two-second period,
something went bang.

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That time I didn't count,

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but it seemed like
somewhere within a four

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or five, ten, I don't know,

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second period, something...

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[Chad] Over the course
of my entire career,

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this footage, which was
captured at Waverly Hills,

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represents the only time

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that I've ever experienced
the following phenomena,

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which, as you'll see,

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what we've come to reference
as the Whistler,

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terrified everyone involved
with this investigation.

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[Chad] Is this-- Is this--
This is the floor that all--

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Everything, the wood and stuff
happened last night. This is--

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This floor is out of control.

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-[Chad] What was that?
-[Nathan] Did you just whistle?

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[Greg] It was a whistling.

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-[Chad] You didn't whistle?
-[Sara] Did anybody whistle?

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[Nathan] You swear to God,
you didn't whistle.

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[Greg] I swear on my life
I didn't whistle.

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I can't whistle like that.

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-[Chad] What was that?
-[Nathan] Did you just whistle?

281
00:14:12,329 --> 00:14:14,244
-[Chad] What was that?
-[Nathan] Did you just whistle?

282
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[Chad] What was that?

283
00:14:28,780 --> 00:14:30,347
What was that?

284
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It couldn't have been
more than 15 feet away.

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From where we were at,
it was this-- I mean,

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you-- you could distinguish it
as a human voice whistling.

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Um, I can't whistle,
but, I mean, it was a...

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[mimics whistle]
Exactly in perfect pitch.

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And I mean,
it was unmistakable.

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Being a-- being a musician and
just knowing, you just-- how,

291
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you know, when--
when notes have impact,

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they have impact and when
they don't, they don't.

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And I'll tell you what,
I could smell the sarcasm

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and almost just kind of the--

295
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It was like something
snickering at-- at us.

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And I mean, I'm not going
to sit here and say that,

297
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you know, something
is what it is when it isn't.

298
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I mean, I'll call
a spade a spade

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and I'll tell you what,
that was a-- that was a spade.

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I mean, that was a whistle, that
was a-- [mimics whistle]

301
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[Chad] Yeah.

302
00:15:12,694 --> 00:15:14,435
Dude, are you kidding me?

303
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[EVP] It's okay.

304
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-[Greg] Just keep listening.
-[indistinct chatter]

305
00:15:18,743 --> 00:15:20,745
[Chad] I'm not sure
if you just heard that,

306
00:15:20,789 --> 00:15:23,009
but during the editing
process of this film,

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I noticed what I believe
to be a new EVP.

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Lewis, who was
clearly shaken, asked...

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[Chad] Immediately after,
you hear a voice say,

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"It's okay"
from a higher pitched tone

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in a mocking way.

312
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Dude, are you kidding me?

313
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[Chad] The voice is clearly
not from one of us,

314
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as we only have one
female in the group.

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The rest of the crew consists
of men with deep voices.

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In addition, the context
doesn't make sense,

317
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as everyone is clearly unnerved
by the mysterious whistling.

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00:15:56,172 --> 00:16:00,481
So nobody would say, "It's okay"
in a snickering way to Lewis,

319
00:16:00,524 --> 00:16:03,136
which, by the way,
matches how Greg described

320
00:16:03,179 --> 00:16:05,007
the tone of the whistle.

321
00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:09,055
I could smell the sarcasm
and almost just kind of the--

322
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It was like something
snickering at-- at us.

323
00:16:13,059 --> 00:16:14,625
Dude, are you kidding me?

324
00:16:16,627 --> 00:16:19,369
-[Greg] Just keep listening.
-[indistinct chatter]

325
00:16:19,413 --> 00:16:20,980
Dude, are you kidding me?

326
00:16:23,025 --> 00:16:25,636
-[Greg] Just keep listening.
-[indistinct chatter]

327
00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,986
I mean, everybody heard
that whistle, right?

328
00:16:27,029 --> 00:16:29,162
Yeah, I heard it.
It was-- it was--

329
00:16:29,205 --> 00:16:31,947
It was right where you guys
were just looking there.

330
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[Chad] On a few
occasions in my career,

331
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I've experienced an
immense amount of activity

332
00:16:36,473 --> 00:16:38,214
in a short amount of time.

333
00:16:38,258 --> 00:16:40,129
In the footage
you're about to see,

334
00:16:40,173 --> 00:16:42,958
that is exactly what happened
at Chillingham Castle,

335
00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:47,615
as six unexplainable events
occur within a 15-minute window.

336
00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:55,014
-Isn't this right next to that?
-Yeah.

337
00:16:55,057 --> 00:16:56,537
-Yeah.
-So, it's--

338
00:16:56,580 --> 00:16:58,147
When you go up a few stairs
over that way

339
00:16:58,191 --> 00:16:59,453
through the great hall--

340
00:17:02,543 --> 00:17:04,371
-What was that?
-[Chad] Just so you know,

341
00:17:04,414 --> 00:17:06,634
it's extremely common
to check with the film crew

342
00:17:06,677 --> 00:17:09,202
for confirmation as to what
you may have heard or saw,

343
00:17:09,245 --> 00:17:11,943
as they're not only another
set of eyes and ears,

344
00:17:11,987 --> 00:17:13,423
they're a better set
of eyes and ears

345
00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:15,556
due to the cameras
and audio gear.

346
00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,471
That's exactly what happens here

347
00:17:17,514 --> 00:17:20,169
as Joey hears
a disembodied breath

348
00:17:20,213 --> 00:17:23,085
and asks our camera operator,
"What was that?"

349
00:17:23,129 --> 00:17:27,220
In which he lets Joey know,
"I heard it, definitely."

350
00:17:27,263 --> 00:17:29,613
... few stairs over that way
through the great hall...

351
00:17:32,747 --> 00:17:34,357
-What was that?
-[crew speaking indistinctly]

352
00:17:41,538 --> 00:17:43,018
[Chad] John, if you're here,
let me know.

353
00:17:45,847 --> 00:17:47,066
What the fuck!

354
00:17:49,285 --> 00:17:50,808
John, if you're here,
let me know.

355
00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:54,682
What the fuck!

356
00:17:56,162 --> 00:17:57,380
[Joey] You didn't hear anything?

357
00:17:57,424 --> 00:17:58,642
[Mary Beth] It's all gonna make
sense, dude,

358
00:17:58,686 --> 00:18:00,470
after it comes out.

359
00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:03,038
-[female voice] He's not there.
-[door creaking]

360
00:18:09,827 --> 00:18:11,264
[door creaking]

361
00:18:14,354 --> 00:18:15,703
[door creaking]

362
00:18:17,792 --> 00:18:19,228
[door creaking]

363
00:18:19,272 --> 00:18:20,534
[Chad] In this
sequence of events,

364
00:18:20,577 --> 00:18:22,275
I love Mary Beth's expression,

365
00:18:22,318 --> 00:18:24,929
as an addition to looking to see
what door's opening,

366
00:18:24,973 --> 00:18:27,149
knowing that she is
the only girl in the room,

367
00:18:27,193 --> 00:18:29,412
she also looks directly
to our camera operator

368
00:18:29,456 --> 00:18:32,894
for confirmation that he also
heard the disembodied voice,

369
00:18:32,937 --> 00:18:35,331
which sounds as though
it came from a young girl

370
00:18:35,375 --> 00:18:36,637
with a British accent.

371
00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,160
[door creaking]

372
00:18:42,512 --> 00:18:43,992
[Mary Beth]
There's no other door.

373
00:18:44,035 --> 00:18:45,124
[Joey]
Was it that door opening?

374
00:18:46,212 --> 00:18:49,171
-That's the only door.
-[Joey] That's the only door?

375
00:18:49,215 --> 00:18:50,781
[Mary Beth] Yeah, there's
not one to the outside.

376
00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:53,219
-Oh. So it was that door?
-Yeah.

377
00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:57,919
[Joey] Hmm.

378
00:19:00,226 --> 00:19:01,314
[Joey] Hmm.

379
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:06,319
Keep getting these sounds,
like deep breathing sounds

380
00:19:06,362 --> 00:19:07,885
and, like, these
sounds on the pew

381
00:19:07,929 --> 00:19:09,409
like he's sitting next to me.

382
00:19:09,452 --> 00:19:12,194
In this capture,
if you listen closely,

383
00:19:12,238 --> 00:19:14,283
you'll hear a second voice
whisper something

384
00:19:14,327 --> 00:19:16,242
directly over my voice,

385
00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:17,939
which is great as it shows

386
00:19:17,982 --> 00:19:20,115
that a second entity
is speaking in the room

387
00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:21,856
that has to be very close to me,

388
00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:24,424
as my handheld camera
recorded the whisper.

389
00:19:25,773 --> 00:19:26,861
It's fucking...

390
00:19:28,602 --> 00:19:29,690
It's fucking...

391
00:19:31,822 --> 00:19:32,910
It's fucking...

392
00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:37,350
Staying with Chillingham Castle,
later on that night,

393
00:19:37,393 --> 00:19:39,352
as you'll see
in the following footage,

394
00:19:39,395 --> 00:19:41,745
out of the thin air above us,

395
00:19:41,789 --> 00:19:44,270
it suddenly sounded
like something massive

396
00:19:44,313 --> 00:19:47,229
was being drug around
by some unseen force.

397
00:19:47,273 --> 00:19:48,970
As strange as that sounds.

398
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,455
[dragging sound]

399
00:19:56,717 --> 00:19:58,284
[Mary Beth] What was that?
It's up there.

400
00:20:07,293 --> 00:20:08,903
[Mary Beth] What was that?
It's up there.

401
00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:18,260
[Mary Beth] What was that?
It's up there.

402
00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:21,394
It was definitely
from higher.

403
00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:23,265
-Higher. Higher.
-Like a higher sound.

404
00:20:23,309 --> 00:20:25,615
It wasn't
from ground floor or--

405
00:20:25,659 --> 00:20:27,356
It sounded like if someone
was on the ground floor

406
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,140
but it came from the air.
I mean, it was...

407
00:20:29,184 --> 00:20:30,316
-[Mary Beth] It came from above.
-Yeah.

408
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,926
Yeah, it came from above,
I agree.

409
00:20:31,969 --> 00:20:33,623
-Definitely came from above.
-Came from above.

410
00:20:33,667 --> 00:20:35,364
It was loud enough it stopped
all of us in our tracks.

411
00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:36,887
We're just like,

412
00:20:36,931 --> 00:20:39,107
-"What is that?"
-What's...

413
00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:40,935
[Chad] If you've watched
Paranormal State,

414
00:20:40,978 --> 00:20:42,850
you saw the first part
of this footage,

415
00:20:42,893 --> 00:20:44,895
which is the door
moving on its own.

416
00:20:44,939 --> 00:20:46,462
But for some reason,

417
00:20:46,506 --> 00:20:48,116
the network didn't
use what followed,

418
00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:50,510
which is the sound
of some sort of creature

419
00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:52,512
scurrying into the bathroom.

420
00:20:52,555 --> 00:20:53,643
Check this out.

421
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,435
-[thumping]
-[cameraman] Whoa, was that you?

422
00:21:03,218 --> 00:21:05,786
-I don't know.
-Okay.

423
00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:08,223
-It sounded like a knocking.
-I might have pushed against it.

424
00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:09,877
[cameraman] All right.

425
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,531
-[scurrying sound]
-[Chad] Oh, no, what was that?

426
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,409
-[thumping]
-[cameraman] Whoa, was that you?

427
00:21:21,192 --> 00:21:23,760
-I don't know.
-Okay.

428
00:21:23,804 --> 00:21:26,110
-It sounded like a knocking.
-I might have pushed against it.

429
00:21:26,154 --> 00:21:27,286
All right.

430
00:21:28,156 --> 00:21:29,679
[Chad] Oh, no what was that?

431
00:21:29,723 --> 00:21:31,290
-Uh, like that, "Psst"?
-[Chad] Was that-- Yeah.

432
00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:33,814
That was behind me.

433
00:21:40,168 --> 00:21:42,344
-[thumping]
-[cameraman] Whoa, was that you?

434
00:21:43,127 --> 00:21:45,608
-I don't know.
-Okay.

435
00:21:45,652 --> 00:21:47,741
-It sounded like a knocking.
-I might have pushed against it.

436
00:21:47,784 --> 00:21:49,656
All right.

437
00:21:49,699 --> 00:21:51,310
[Chad] It's important to note
that there were no animals

438
00:21:51,353 --> 00:21:53,312
in the bedroom or the bathroom,

439
00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:55,662
nor were there any rat holes
or pathways into the walls,

440
00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:57,446
as we checked for both.

441
00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:59,796
Again, I've just never
experienced anything like this.

442
00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,233
[Chad] Oh, no, what was that?

443
00:22:02,277 --> 00:22:04,105
-Uh, like that, "Psst"?
-[Chad] Was that-- Yeah.

444
00:22:05,062 --> 00:22:06,673
That was behind me.

445
00:22:06,716 --> 00:22:08,370
[Chad] The following
evidence was captured

446
00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:11,286
during ourGhost Prophecy
special for A&E,

447
00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:14,724
in which my team and I chose to
challenge the legend of Room 18

448
00:22:14,768 --> 00:22:18,293
at the St. James Hotel
in Cimarron, New Mexico.

449
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:20,426
Legend states that anyone
who should spend the night

450
00:22:20,469 --> 00:22:24,560
in Room 18 would be killed
by the ghost of TJ Wright

451
00:22:24,604 --> 00:22:26,649
shortly after checking out.

452
00:22:26,693 --> 00:22:28,259
While TJ didn't kill me,

453
00:22:28,303 --> 00:22:30,261
he definitely made me
uncomfortable.

454
00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:31,350
Check this out.

455
00:22:32,089 --> 00:22:33,177
I am now

456
00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:38,835
padlocked inside of Room 18.

457
00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:43,666
Let's you and I get one thing
straight here right away.

458
00:22:46,582 --> 00:22:48,105
If somehow

459
00:22:49,629 --> 00:22:51,631
you magically have the power

460
00:22:54,416 --> 00:22:55,852
to take my life

461
00:22:55,896 --> 00:22:58,072
a week from now,
a month from now,

462
00:22:58,115 --> 00:22:59,552
six months from now,

463
00:23:01,118 --> 00:23:03,251
you had better be prepared
for me to hunt you down

464
00:23:03,294 --> 00:23:06,341
in the afterlife
like a rabid fucking animal.

465
00:23:08,256 --> 00:23:11,041
Oh, we already got
little clicks and...

466
00:23:14,088 --> 00:23:17,483
There is an ungodly feeling
I've ever felt of that,

467
00:23:17,526 --> 00:23:18,875
like, presence feeling.

468
00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:23,489
I just had...

469
00:23:25,665 --> 00:23:26,666
Wow, I just had

470
00:23:26,709 --> 00:23:28,581
two huge footsteps.

471
00:23:28,624 --> 00:23:32,062
I'm certain my camera picked
that up right in front of me.

472
00:23:32,672 --> 00:23:34,978
I do feel like
something is in here.

473
00:23:40,244 --> 00:23:41,681
What the fuck?

474
00:23:46,729 --> 00:23:48,035
What the fuck is that?

475
00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:50,864
I was fine until I got there

476
00:23:50,907 --> 00:23:52,953
and when I could hear them
locking the door,

477
00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:57,305
that sucked, man,
that's such a bad feeling.

478
00:23:57,348 --> 00:23:58,915
It is like--

479
00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:00,395
Because I just realized
there's no quick exit.

480
00:24:01,222 --> 00:24:03,616
Here is a little--
This is how I started out.

481
00:24:03,659 --> 00:24:06,923
And then these are the first
set of footsteps that I heard.

482
00:24:06,967 --> 00:24:08,882
-[footstep sound]
-[Chad] One.

483
00:24:08,925 --> 00:24:11,188
-[footstep sound]
-The second one.

484
00:24:11,232 --> 00:24:13,016
-Those are right behind me.
-I just had...

485
00:24:15,018 --> 00:24:17,760
Wow, I just had
two huge footsteps.

486
00:24:18,805 --> 00:24:20,502
Now this got really scary.

487
00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:22,765
A series of knocks started
from the wall behind me

488
00:24:22,809 --> 00:24:24,593
and started moving
closer towards me.

489
00:24:24,637 --> 00:24:27,509
I do feel like
something is in here.

490
00:24:28,728 --> 00:24:33,210
[clicking sound]

491
00:24:33,254 --> 00:24:34,864
-Wild.
-[Chad on video] What the fuck!

492
00:24:36,083 --> 00:24:38,825
So, again,
about a minute after that...

493
00:24:40,348 --> 00:24:41,436
That was freaky.

494
00:24:44,308 --> 00:24:47,964
[clicking sound]

495
00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:49,705
-What the fuck is that?
-[clicking sound]

496
00:24:50,663 --> 00:24:52,055
Oh, shit.

497
00:24:52,621 --> 00:24:54,580
I was in there for an hour.
You know, it could be anything.

498
00:24:54,623 --> 00:24:56,277
If it was a heating duct
or something like that,

499
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,887
-I would have heard it.
-Yeah.

500
00:24:57,931 --> 00:24:59,889
And then I told Thomas
how I felt.

501
00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:01,108
[Chad on video] Thomas Wright.

502
00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:05,460
Here's a shot of jack
I'm taking in my new room.

503
00:25:06,417 --> 00:25:08,507
-[laughter]
-"In my new room!"

504
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:10,552
It was horrible.

505
00:25:11,814 --> 00:25:14,208
[all laughing]

506
00:25:14,251 --> 00:25:16,558
[Chad] Similar to our
Chillingham experience

507
00:25:16,602 --> 00:25:18,299
in which countless
unexplained events

508
00:25:18,342 --> 00:25:20,431
occurred in a short
window of time,

509
00:25:20,475 --> 00:25:22,433
as you'll see in this clip,

510
00:25:22,477 --> 00:25:25,045
we also experienced the same
type of eruption of activity

511
00:25:25,088 --> 00:25:26,873
at Waverly Hills,

512
00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:29,484
as the final 30 minutes
of our second investigation

513
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,225
was truly fascinating.

514
00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:33,401
[Joe whispering] Right there.

515
00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:36,665
[footsteps running]

516
00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:40,277
[Joe] Is someone there?

517
00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:41,452
Right there.

518
00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:48,329
[Joe] Is someone there?

519
00:25:48,372 --> 00:25:52,289
It sounded like somebody
was dead sprinting towards us.

520
00:25:52,899 --> 00:25:55,597
-Very loud.
-[stomping feet]

521
00:25:56,729 --> 00:25:57,991
[Joe] Right there.

522
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,996
[running sound]

523
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:04,301
Is someone there?

524
00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:05,999
When something runs at you,

525
00:26:06,042 --> 00:26:08,828
I think that's a "Get out."

526
00:26:08,871 --> 00:26:11,570
A scare tactic. "Get out.
I'm running at you."

527
00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:14,355
And at that point, man,
my adrenaline was just flying,

528
00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:16,226
and right now, thinking
about it, man, I'm...

529
00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:18,315
-Something ran. It was running.
-Something came at us.

530
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,882
-And it was real close.
-Yeah.

531
00:26:21,536 --> 00:26:23,494
-[breathing sound]
-[indistinct chatter]

532
00:26:23,973 --> 00:26:25,584
[crewmember] Wait a minute.
Did you guys just hear that?

533
00:26:25,627 --> 00:26:27,586
That, "Ha..."

534
00:26:28,108 --> 00:26:29,588
Holy shit.

535
00:26:33,374 --> 00:26:35,158
[indistinct chatter]

536
00:26:35,202 --> 00:26:36,551
[crewmember] Wait a minute.
Did you guys just hear that?

537
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:41,817
[indistinct chatter]

538
00:26:41,861 --> 00:26:43,253
[crewmember] Wait a minute.
Did you guys just hear that?

539
00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:48,519
[indistinct chatter]

540
00:26:48,563 --> 00:26:49,999
[crewmember] Wait a minute.
Did you guys just hear that?

541
00:26:50,043 --> 00:26:52,785
[crosstalk]

542
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:56,919
-[breathing sound]
-[crosstalk continues]

543
00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:08,191
[crosstalk]

544
00:27:15,024 --> 00:27:17,679
[crosstalk]

545
00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:21,683
We were in there for
not even ten, 15 minutes

546
00:27:21,727 --> 00:27:23,337
before we start hearing,

547
00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:25,121
you know, noises coming
from all over the place.

548
00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:26,688
I mean, you could hear like,

549
00:27:26,732 --> 00:27:28,690
you know, what it sounded
like, um, you know,

550
00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:31,214
a couple of women in high heels
walking down the hallway.

551
00:27:31,258 --> 00:27:32,912
We can hear footsteps
all around us,

552
00:27:32,955 --> 00:27:34,522
in front of us,
to the side of us,

553
00:27:34,565 --> 00:27:35,958
each side of us, behind us.

554
00:27:38,744 --> 00:27:41,529
[heels clacking]

555
00:27:57,458 --> 00:27:59,982
Joe, Lewis and Greg
have now left.

556
00:28:00,026 --> 00:28:02,332
Um, just too scared
from some of these sounds.

557
00:28:02,376 --> 00:28:04,421
It sounds like people are
running down the hallway,

558
00:28:04,465 --> 00:28:06,728
so they have left, uh,
the building, so...

559
00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:09,035
When it's time to give,
it's time-- it's time to give.

560
00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:10,863
This place is incredibly haunted

561
00:28:10,906 --> 00:28:12,778
and there's nothing I can do
that's going to change that.

562
00:28:12,821 --> 00:28:15,519
My God, man,
I'm just ready to go.

563
00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:18,958
[striking]

564
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:22,744
[Adrian] I can hear you.

565
00:28:24,050 --> 00:28:25,529
[striking]

566
00:28:25,573 --> 00:28:27,009
I can hear you.

567
00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:30,534
[striking]

568
00:28:41,676 --> 00:28:42,721
I can hear you.

569
00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:46,725
I can hear you.

570
00:29:01,652 --> 00:29:02,741
I can hear you.

571
00:29:05,439 --> 00:29:06,788
I can hear you.

572
00:29:16,842 --> 00:29:21,063
[striking]

573
00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:22,761
I can hear you.

574
00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:25,372
[striking]

575
00:29:25,415 --> 00:29:26,590
I can hear you.

576
00:29:27,069 --> 00:29:31,900
[striking]

577
00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:34,033
Wow.

578
00:29:35,251 --> 00:29:38,211
Something was there, talking--
talking, communicating with me.

579
00:29:38,254 --> 00:29:39,821
Something
that I-- I don't understand.

580
00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:43,390
I don't know what--
what it is, which I'm--

581
00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,871
I'm assuming it's-- it's ghosts.

582
00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:47,786
[Chad] With the advancement
of commercial level

583
00:29:47,829 --> 00:29:49,657
handheld HD cameras,

584
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:52,486
still photography is slowly
but surely becoming

585
00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:55,663
a thing of the past in regard
to paranormal investigating.

586
00:29:55,706 --> 00:29:58,622
But having said that,
I do have a few examples

587
00:29:58,666 --> 00:30:02,626
of compelling photographic
evidence to share with you.

588
00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:05,194
Known as one of the most
haunted locations in the world,

589
00:30:05,238 --> 00:30:08,284
I'm very fortunate to live only
20 minutes away from Long Beach,

590
00:30:08,328 --> 00:30:09,938
California's Queen Mary Hotel,

591
00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:12,767
which I have investigated
19 times.

592
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:14,116
But oddly enough,

593
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,335
the most compelling evidence

594
00:30:15,378 --> 00:30:16,902
that I've ever captured there

595
00:30:16,945 --> 00:30:19,034
came after a fruitless
investigation,

596
00:30:19,078 --> 00:30:21,645
which I explain in
the following sequence.

597
00:30:21,689 --> 00:30:23,996
Well, I noticed
a mural behind the bar,

598
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:25,867
and I really like this mural.

599
00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:28,696
So, I had put my camera on
a really, um-- a high shutter

600
00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:30,524
speed,
which I like to shoot with

601
00:30:30,567 --> 00:30:32,656
because it kind of freeze
frames people's actions

602
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,571
when you take a shot.

603
00:30:34,615 --> 00:30:37,531
So, I was focusing on the back
of the mural and I popped off

604
00:30:37,574 --> 00:30:41,100
um, nine photos in a-- about
two and a half seconds.

605
00:30:41,143 --> 00:30:42,841
Well, right in the middle,

606
00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:45,582
photos number four and five
came back.

607
00:30:45,626 --> 00:30:48,020
And as you can see right now,

608
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:51,284
um, there's a woman
in both photos

609
00:30:51,327 --> 00:30:53,112
or what appears to be
a woman in both photos.

610
00:30:53,155 --> 00:30:56,158
Uh, the dress that she was
wearing was completely unique

611
00:30:56,202 --> 00:30:58,639
of anybody that we saw
in the room that night.

612
00:30:58,682 --> 00:31:02,991
Um, also, if you look at the
location that she's standing,

613
00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:05,298
she moves about two feet or so

614
00:31:05,341 --> 00:31:07,648
and this is in a fraction
of a second.

615
00:31:07,691 --> 00:31:09,128
It was packed that night.

616
00:31:09,171 --> 00:31:10,999
Nobody could have
sprinted across.

617
00:31:11,043 --> 00:31:12,696
Uh, what's really interesting is

618
00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:14,481
every other person
that you see is--

619
00:31:14,524 --> 00:31:16,570
-- you see in frame,
there's mass to them.

620
00:31:16,613 --> 00:31:18,398
You know, you can't
see through them.

621
00:31:18,441 --> 00:31:20,182
And what's great about the photo

622
00:31:20,226 --> 00:31:22,271
is there's somebody really
close, which is Adrian's friend,

623
00:31:22,315 --> 00:31:24,230
Adrian's on the right side,
as you can see.

624
00:31:24,273 --> 00:31:25,884
You could see the bartender
in the back.

625
00:31:25,927 --> 00:31:27,668
You could see the girl
at the table behind us.

626
00:31:27,711 --> 00:31:30,192
Both these photos are
first generation photos.

627
00:31:30,236 --> 00:31:32,151
I have sent them
to photo experts.

628
00:31:32,194 --> 00:31:34,283
There's been no Photoshopping
done to them.

629
00:31:34,327 --> 00:31:36,938
This is, you know,
what you see is what it is.

630
00:31:36,982 --> 00:31:40,376
But what's even more bizarre
is after showing these photos

631
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:43,640
at a presentation event
while on tour in 2014,

632
00:31:43,684 --> 00:31:46,948
an attendee of mine pointed out
that as the unexplained woman

633
00:31:46,992 --> 00:31:50,560
in the photo approaches
Adrian's friend to the left,

634
00:31:50,604 --> 00:31:52,432
you can see her skull,

635
00:31:52,475 --> 00:31:54,390
which, after re-examining
the photo,

636
00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:56,958
I was shocked to learn
that my attendee was right,

637
00:31:57,002 --> 00:31:58,699
as I had never
noticed this before.

638
00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:01,180
In fact, if you
change the colour profile,

639
00:32:01,223 --> 00:32:04,618
you can clearly see her skull,
which is a bit terrifying,

640
00:32:04,661 --> 00:32:06,359
because I don't even
have a theory

641
00:32:06,402 --> 00:32:08,100
as to why
this would be the case.

642
00:32:09,579 --> 00:32:11,842
One of the most famous
ghosts of Waverly Hills

643
00:32:11,886 --> 00:32:13,496
is known as Big Black,

644
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,977
which is a ten- to 12-foot
shadow person

645
00:32:16,021 --> 00:32:19,459
that literally thousands
of people have claimed to see.

646
00:32:19,502 --> 00:32:21,548
But as you'll see
in the following footage,

647
00:32:21,591 --> 00:32:24,594
I think I've captured
a photo of Big Black.

648
00:32:24,638 --> 00:32:26,335
Check this out.

649
00:32:26,379 --> 00:32:28,250
So I was walking around,
taking photos of Waverly Hills.

650
00:32:28,294 --> 00:32:30,731
So, the building itself
is absolutely incredible.

651
00:32:30,774 --> 00:32:33,690
I was out in the back of
Waverly Hills shooting up at it.

652
00:32:33,734 --> 00:32:36,389
And, uh, you know,
outta the corner of my eye,

653
00:32:36,432 --> 00:32:38,608
I thought I saw something.

654
00:32:38,652 --> 00:32:40,219
So, once I took
the photos off the camera

655
00:32:40,262 --> 00:32:42,351
and dropped into the computer,
there it was.

656
00:32:42,395 --> 00:32:44,614
I mean, it just stood out,
as clear as can be.

657
00:32:44,658 --> 00:32:46,442
It appears as though
some kind of figure

658
00:32:46,486 --> 00:32:49,402
is leaning over the fourth floor
balcony and looking down.

659
00:32:56,713 --> 00:32:58,019
And as you can see,

660
00:32:58,063 --> 00:32:59,934
by changing the colour profile,

661
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,632
you can make out even
more detail of this entity.

662
00:33:02,676 --> 00:33:04,765
But what's even more
compelling to me

663
00:33:04,808 --> 00:33:07,028
is that when you use
the embossing filter,

664
00:33:07,072 --> 00:33:09,422
which shows the depth
of items in the picture,

665
00:33:09,465 --> 00:33:12,903
you can actually see
the face protruding,

666
00:33:12,947 --> 00:33:16,081
which I believe this
demonstrates what I saw,

667
00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:19,084
which is Big Black looking down.

668
00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:22,565
One of the most
haunted locations

669
00:33:22,609 --> 00:33:25,525
in Pasadena, California,
is Suicide Bridge,

670
00:33:25,568 --> 00:33:27,309
which after visiting the bridge

671
00:33:27,353 --> 00:33:29,877
countless times without
experiencing any activity,

672
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,880
I finally experienced
something very bizarre,

673
00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:35,535
which I documented
in the following video.

674
00:33:35,578 --> 00:33:39,539
I want to share two photos with
you that I took back in 2002

675
00:33:39,582 --> 00:33:42,803
at a location known
as Suicide Bridge.

676
00:33:42,846 --> 00:33:45,762
Now, Suicide Bridge is actually
the Colorado Street Bridge

677
00:33:45,806 --> 00:33:47,329
in Pasadena, California,

678
00:33:47,373 --> 00:33:49,070
which it's known
as Suicide Bridge,

679
00:33:49,114 --> 00:33:50,854
because over 100 people

680
00:33:50,898 --> 00:33:53,074
have committed suicide
off the bridge.

681
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:55,294
Now, what's really interesting
is there's a public park

682
00:33:55,337 --> 00:33:56,904
below the bridge.

683
00:33:56,947 --> 00:33:58,819
So, anybody can go there at any
time they want,

684
00:33:58,862 --> 00:34:00,603
day or night.

685
00:34:00,647 --> 00:34:02,779
Now, there's all kinds
of activity reported out there.

686
00:34:02,823 --> 00:34:06,348
But the primary story, when
it comes to actual sightings,

687
00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:10,091
people claim to see a tall
and a short shadow person

688
00:34:10,135 --> 00:34:11,832
together all the time.

689
00:34:11,875 --> 00:34:13,529
And this is from a real story
where a mother

690
00:34:13,573 --> 00:34:16,271
actually held her five-year-old
son in her arms

691
00:34:16,315 --> 00:34:18,099
and jumped to her death.

692
00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:21,059
Now, the first two times
I went there, nothing happened.

693
00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:22,886
I spent four to five hours
both times.

694
00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:25,106
And I mean, nothing happened.

695
00:34:25,150 --> 00:34:26,673
The third time I went back,

696
00:34:26,716 --> 00:34:28,153
I talked Laura
into going with me,

697
00:34:28,196 --> 00:34:29,806
which I'm not sure
how I did that

698
00:34:29,850 --> 00:34:32,113
because she was quickly bored.

699
00:34:32,157 --> 00:34:34,463
Uh, nothing was going on.

700
00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:35,943
We were there about three hours

701
00:34:35,986 --> 00:34:37,510
and I was getting
ready to leave.

702
00:34:37,553 --> 00:34:39,207
I had to go to
the bathroom, though,

703
00:34:39,251 --> 00:34:41,253
so I meandered my way
south of the bridge,

704
00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:44,082
walked a little bit to find
an area to go to the bathroom.

705
00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:45,996
While I'm going to the bathroom,

706
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,391
I get this overwhelming,
creepy feeling.

707
00:34:49,435 --> 00:34:51,741
It's the feeling
all investigators talk about.

708
00:34:51,785 --> 00:34:55,136
You just feel like
somebody is there.

709
00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:56,964
So, I grabbed my camera
with my right arm,

710
00:34:57,007 --> 00:34:58,922
kind of flip the lens
over my shoulder

711
00:34:58,966 --> 00:35:00,446
and I take this photo,

712
00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:02,578
which I was floored
with what I saw.

713
00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:08,193
Do you guys see two figures?

714
00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:16,549
My first thought,
obviously, is that

715
00:35:16,592 --> 00:35:18,246
this could be visual matrixing.

716
00:35:18,290 --> 00:35:20,335
I could be just
finding a pattern.

717
00:35:20,379 --> 00:35:22,294
But to me,

718
00:35:22,337 --> 00:35:24,731
this looks like
an adult and a child.

719
00:35:27,429 --> 00:35:29,039
So, I'm fascinated
by this photo.

720
00:35:29,083 --> 00:35:30,998
I'm really anxious
to show it to Laura,

721
00:35:31,041 --> 00:35:32,782
in which I come
around the corner

722
00:35:32,826 --> 00:35:35,568
and Laura is standing
with the camera above her head,

723
00:35:35,611 --> 00:35:37,439
filming up at the bridge.

724
00:35:37,483 --> 00:35:39,049
And I'm like, "Hey, what's up?
What are you doing?"

725
00:35:39,093 --> 00:35:40,616
She goes, "I don't know,
I just got

726
00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:41,965
this weird feeling
right now, Chad."

727
00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:43,793
And I'm like, "Physically?"

728
00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:45,621
And she's like, "Yes, I have
a weird physical feeling

729
00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:47,710
plus something told me
to just film the bridge."

730
00:35:47,754 --> 00:35:50,322
So, because Laura is
so freaking skeptical,

731
00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:53,194
I decided to take some photos
of her while this is going on.

732
00:35:53,238 --> 00:35:55,675
And this is the first photo
that I took of her here.

733
00:35:55,718 --> 00:35:56,806
Look at this.

734
00:36:09,254 --> 00:36:12,909
Now, I have no clue what
this is flying around her.

735
00:36:12,953 --> 00:36:15,564
You know, I don't-- I-- I--
[chuckles]

736
00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:17,305
You can hear it
in my stuttering.

737
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:19,264
I'm still confused
when I look at this photo.

738
00:36:19,307 --> 00:36:21,222
I have no idea what this is.

739
00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:23,398
I have no idea what it is.

740
00:36:23,442 --> 00:36:25,966
But I do find it
very interesting

741
00:36:26,009 --> 00:36:28,577
that right about
the same exact time

742
00:36:28,621 --> 00:36:30,188
that I had my
bizarre experience,

743
00:36:30,231 --> 00:36:32,407
and took the photo
over my shoulder,

744
00:36:32,451 --> 00:36:35,193
Laura was also having
a weird experience

745
00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:37,499
in which I took
this photo of her.

746
00:36:37,543 --> 00:36:39,284
The timing was really weird.

747
00:36:47,901 --> 00:36:50,904
During my first ever trip
to the Waverly Hills Sanatorium,

748
00:36:50,947 --> 00:36:52,819
I was picked up
by Charlie Mattingly,

749
00:36:52,862 --> 00:36:55,561
who co-owns the structure
with his wife, Tina.

750
00:36:55,604 --> 00:36:57,389
During our drive to Waverly,

751
00:36:57,432 --> 00:36:59,565
I asked Charlie
if he's ever experienced

752
00:36:59,608 --> 00:37:01,306
anything paranormal,

753
00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:03,482
in which he said the only thing
he's ever witnessed

754
00:37:03,525 --> 00:37:07,137
were what he described as
tiny red, glowing lights

755
00:37:07,181 --> 00:37:11,272
that consistently flew down
the corridors of Waverly Hills.

756
00:37:11,316 --> 00:37:14,580
Well, Charlie wasn't lying
because I saw his red lights.

757
00:37:14,623 --> 00:37:17,887
But to be honest, I could never
get a straight on look at them.

758
00:37:17,931 --> 00:37:19,889
They were always just
out of the corner of my eye,

759
00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:21,717
or I would see them
really quickly

760
00:37:21,761 --> 00:37:23,806
before they would fly
into a wall and disappear.

761
00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:26,940
With this being the case, over
the course of two full nights,

762
00:37:26,983 --> 00:37:30,422
I only focused on still
photography in which I took over

763
00:37:30,465 --> 00:37:34,513
12,000 photos with the highest
shutter speed that I could,

764
00:37:34,556 --> 00:37:37,472
which thankfully,
the effort was rewarded

765
00:37:37,516 --> 00:37:39,213
with the following photos.

766
00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:42,956
[eerie music]

767
00:38:00,626 --> 00:38:03,411
The following video was
fairly self-explanatory,

768
00:38:03,455 --> 00:38:05,457
as during our trip
to the Axe Murder House

769
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,372
for the filming
ofAmerican Ghost Hunter,

770
00:38:07,415 --> 00:38:09,765
my good friend
Johnny Houser asked

771
00:38:09,809 --> 00:38:12,072
if he could take some photos
of Ryan Buell and I,

772
00:38:12,115 --> 00:38:14,379
in which this was the result.

773
00:38:14,422 --> 00:38:16,859
[Johnny] I took three shots,
just one right after the other.

774
00:38:17,817 --> 00:38:19,732
The last one turned
out perfectly fine.

775
00:38:19,775 --> 00:38:23,910
Uh, the two before were
hanging-- had-- look like a--

776
00:38:23,953 --> 00:38:26,347
It's almost a blur
or a white mist

777
00:38:26,391 --> 00:38:29,872
right in front of, uh,
you and Chad.

778
00:38:29,916 --> 00:38:31,483
[Chad] I would like
to also point out

779
00:38:31,526 --> 00:38:33,485
that while camera glitches
do happen,

780
00:38:33,528 --> 00:38:37,837
which can produce artefacts,
these glitches are massive.

781
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,752
And there's two of them,

782
00:38:39,795 --> 00:38:41,971
which occurred right after
a perfect photo was taken.

783
00:38:42,015 --> 00:38:43,930
This just doesn't
make any sense.

784
00:38:43,973 --> 00:38:46,236
I have no reasonable
explanation for this.

785
00:38:46,715 --> 00:38:48,369
[Ryan] Were you fidgeting
with the lighting

786
00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:50,240
or the-- the flash or anything?

787
00:38:50,284 --> 00:38:52,286
-I didn't adjust a thing. Um--
-[Ryan] Really?

788
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,594
Just pushed the button
three times and that was it.

789
00:38:55,637 --> 00:38:57,378
[Ryan] When you were taking
photos of people here

790
00:38:57,422 --> 00:38:58,858
at the Villisca House,

791
00:38:58,901 --> 00:39:00,686
you ever had anything
like that show up?

792
00:39:01,687 --> 00:39:03,036
Not of people.

793
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:04,733
You guys are the lucky ones,
I guess.

794
00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:06,169
-[Ryan] Yes.
-[Johnny chuckles]

795
00:39:06,213 --> 00:39:07,562
[Ryan] We had something
around us, Chad.

796
00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:10,173
[Chad] If you don't know
my family's story

797
00:39:10,217 --> 00:39:12,262
and our 20-year battle
with a negative haunting,

798
00:39:12,306 --> 00:39:13,960
I invite you to watch

799
00:39:14,003 --> 00:39:16,179
the American Ghost Hunter
documentary.

800
00:39:16,223 --> 00:39:18,138
But if you do know
my family's story,

801
00:39:18,181 --> 00:39:19,922
you'll understand
why it's still hard

802
00:39:19,966 --> 00:39:22,011
for me to share these photos.

803
00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:23,752
Having said that,

804
00:39:23,796 --> 00:39:25,537
here's two photos
from my family's haunting

805
00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:27,800
that still give me
the chills today.

806
00:39:27,843 --> 00:39:31,194
The first photo
is one of a baby's crib,

807
00:39:31,238 --> 00:39:33,283
which, if you look
at the crib's rails,

808
00:39:33,327 --> 00:39:35,982
you can see that it was
rocking of its own accord

809
00:39:36,025 --> 00:39:38,245
as its not level with the floor.

810
00:39:41,117 --> 00:39:44,469
It did this often, which
we still have no idea why.

811
00:39:46,558 --> 00:39:48,342
This second photo

812
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:51,432
was taken during one of my
mother's demonic attacks

813
00:39:51,476 --> 00:39:52,912
in which she would be hit,

814
00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:54,740
scratched, pinched,

815
00:39:54,783 --> 00:39:57,656
and would have her hair pulled
by an unseen force

816
00:39:57,699 --> 00:40:00,093
which is being demonstrated
in this photo.

817
00:40:00,136 --> 00:40:01,747
As you can see,
a lot of her hair

818
00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:04,097
being pulled up
and away from her body

819
00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:06,708
again, by an unseen force.

820
00:40:08,188 --> 00:40:10,625
Keep in mind
that both of these photos

821
00:40:10,669 --> 00:40:13,411
were taken during
the three-day investigation

822
00:40:13,454 --> 00:40:16,936
conducted by Ed and Lorraine
Warren's discovery team,

823
00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:19,982
who witnessed several of these
attacks for themselves.

824
00:40:20,026 --> 00:40:23,116
In fact, after finishing
their research,

825
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:25,423
their official
written conclusion

826
00:40:25,466 --> 00:40:28,687
stated that my family was
suffering from a devil strength,

827
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:32,517
diabolical, demonic infestation.

828
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,129
I only mention this to you
as it may make this next photo

829
00:40:36,172 --> 00:40:37,435
make more sense.

830
00:40:39,219 --> 00:40:41,221
In 1994,

831
00:40:41,264 --> 00:40:45,051
the co-op grain bin next to my
home in Persia had exploded,

832
00:40:45,094 --> 00:40:47,793
in which my father
took one photo of the fire,

833
00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:52,624
as that's all his disposable
35-millimeter camera had left.

834
00:40:52,667 --> 00:40:55,975
And this, my friends,
is the photo.

835
00:40:56,018 --> 00:40:57,542
Can you tell me what you see?

836
00:40:59,065 --> 00:41:01,676
Because what I see
is a highly detailed,

837
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,418
demonic face from a side profile

838
00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:06,594
with the goat horns
protruding back.

839
00:41:06,638 --> 00:41:08,422
Now, admittedly,

840
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:10,293
I'm someone who would typically
write these things off

841
00:41:10,337 --> 00:41:12,339
as matrixing or pareidolia,

842
00:41:12,382 --> 00:41:15,385
which is when the mind
identifies recognizable shapes

843
00:41:15,429 --> 00:41:17,170
out of random visuals,

844
00:41:17,213 --> 00:41:20,042
such as seeing an elephant
or Jesus in the clouds,

845
00:41:20,086 --> 00:41:21,740
or a scary face
in the mountainside,

846
00:41:21,783 --> 00:41:23,524
or in some cases,

847
00:41:23,568 --> 00:41:26,048
people even see themselves
within the visual chaos

848
00:41:26,092 --> 00:41:28,921
math of random visual patterns.

849
00:41:28,964 --> 00:41:30,879
But as much as I want
to write this photo off

850
00:41:30,923 --> 00:41:32,402
as mere matrixing,

851
00:41:32,446 --> 00:41:33,621
there's still that percentage

852
00:41:33,665 --> 00:41:35,536
of me that can't let it go.

853
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:37,973
As given my mother's
history with the demonic

854
00:41:38,017 --> 00:41:39,932
and the fact that
my Persia home sits

855
00:41:39,975 --> 00:41:42,238
right in the middle of one
of the most haunted regions

856
00:41:42,282 --> 00:41:43,544
in the United States.

857
00:41:43,588 --> 00:41:45,807
I have to ask myself,

858
00:41:45,851 --> 00:41:48,070
"Is this really
just pareidolia?"

859
00:41:49,071 --> 00:41:51,552
I don't know, perhaps it is.

860
00:41:51,596 --> 00:41:54,381
But I still felt it was worth
sharing with all of you.

861
00:41:57,166 --> 00:42:00,822
While holding a fanfare event
at the Thomas House in 2019,

862
00:42:00,866 --> 00:42:03,477
I was told that there was
a church on the property

863
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:06,045
that was now open
to investigations.

864
00:42:06,088 --> 00:42:07,568
Although, I never made it
to the church

865
00:42:07,612 --> 00:42:09,135
the first night of the event,

866
00:42:09,178 --> 00:42:11,137
after many of
my attendees told me

867
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:13,835
that they had experienced
intense activity there,

868
00:42:13,879 --> 00:42:15,707
I went to the church
on the second night

869
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:17,578
with 18 attendees with me,

870
00:42:17,622 --> 00:42:20,233
and what we experienced
was truly shocking,

871
00:42:20,276 --> 00:42:22,322
as we all witnessed
multiple objects

872
00:42:22,365 --> 00:42:25,020
being thrown of their
own accord, from glasses,

873
00:42:25,064 --> 00:42:26,674
to shoes, to batteries.

874
00:42:26,718 --> 00:42:28,633
Just before myself
and two of my friends

875
00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:31,679
noticed a large black figure
at the back of the room,

876
00:42:31,723 --> 00:42:34,203
which we followed
to an adjacent room.

877
00:42:34,247 --> 00:42:35,683
After things had calmed down,

878
00:42:35,727 --> 00:42:36,902
we turned the lights
on in the church

879
00:42:36,945 --> 00:42:39,078
and asked everybody to step out.

880
00:42:39,121 --> 00:42:41,167
While that happened,
my friend Justin Ross

881
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:43,038
took the following two photos.

882
00:42:44,083 --> 00:42:45,563
In the first photo,

883
00:42:45,606 --> 00:42:47,129
you can see that
there's nothing standing

884
00:42:47,173 --> 00:42:48,783
against the back wall
of the church.

885
00:42:50,089 --> 00:42:51,873
But in the second photo,

886
00:42:51,917 --> 00:42:54,615
the same massive dark
figure that I saw earlier

887
00:42:55,442 --> 00:42:56,748
was captured on film.

888
00:43:02,797 --> 00:43:04,843
Even today,
when I look at this picture,

889
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:07,019
it gives me the chills.

890
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:19,118
When it comes to visual
paranormal evidence,

891
00:43:19,161 --> 00:43:20,859
which I'm referencing bizarre,

892
00:43:20,902 --> 00:43:23,296
unexplained or mysterious
events we can see,

893
00:43:23,339 --> 00:43:25,690
nothing compares
to video footage,

894
00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:27,779
as it's the closest
the documentarian

895
00:43:27,822 --> 00:43:29,824
can bring the viewer
to the experience

896
00:43:29,868 --> 00:43:32,218
without them actually
being in the room.

897
00:43:32,261 --> 00:43:34,916
For this reason,
the following footage

898
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,660
has had a truly profound
effect on my beliefs.

899
00:43:39,704 --> 00:43:42,184
During the glove episode
ofParanormal State,

900
00:43:42,228 --> 00:43:46,058
an unexplained thermal handprint
suddenly appeared on the wall

901
00:43:46,101 --> 00:43:48,364
next to
Michelle Belanger's Head.

902
00:43:48,408 --> 00:43:49,931
But in the following footage,

903
00:43:49,975 --> 00:43:51,454
for the first time ever,

904
00:43:51,498 --> 00:43:53,369
you're going to see
my camera angle,

905
00:43:53,413 --> 00:43:57,765
which proves that the handprint
was truly paranormal.

906
00:43:57,809 --> 00:44:00,899
What you're seeing on the right
is my camera angle,

907
00:44:00,942 --> 00:44:04,119
while Ryan Buell is using
the thermal camera on the left.

908
00:44:04,163 --> 00:44:05,860
Now, when this clip begins,

909
00:44:05,904 --> 00:44:08,167
you'll see the cameraman
walk past Michelle

910
00:44:08,210 --> 00:44:10,082
to stage at the end of the room.

911
00:44:10,125 --> 00:44:12,258
Notice that Michelle
is facing forward

912
00:44:12,301 --> 00:44:14,390
as she rubs her wrist briefly

913
00:44:14,434 --> 00:44:16,784
before lowering her
hands for a few seconds,

914
00:44:16,828 --> 00:44:19,613
just before she decides
to move down the wall

915
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:22,007
to inspect the closet
she noticed.

916
00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:24,052
Now, Michelle does
touch the wall here,

917
00:44:24,096 --> 00:44:25,750
but because of my angle,

918
00:44:25,793 --> 00:44:27,577
you can see that her
touch is down the wall

919
00:44:27,621 --> 00:44:28,709
next to the closet,

920
00:44:28,753 --> 00:44:30,145
which is nowhere close to where

921
00:44:30,189 --> 00:44:32,017
the unexplained
handprint appears.

922
00:44:35,455 --> 00:44:37,587
[Michelle] That is the world's
shallowest closet.

923
00:44:37,631 --> 00:44:38,806
[chuckling]

924
00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:41,243
-[Chad] Oh, yeah?
-[Ryan] Oh, yeah.

925
00:44:41,287 --> 00:44:42,680
Well, 'cause I opened it going,

926
00:44:42,723 --> 00:44:44,029
"It's gotta open on to
that other room."

927
00:44:44,072 --> 00:44:45,421
[Ryan]
That is pretty shallow.

928
00:44:45,465 --> 00:44:46,771
What the hell do you
put in there?

929
00:44:50,035 --> 00:44:51,689
[Chad] So, after making
a few comments

930
00:44:51,732 --> 00:44:53,386
about the closet being shallow

931
00:44:53,429 --> 00:44:55,736
as it's only a foot or so deep,

932
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:57,477
she returns to her original spot

933
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,609
in which once again
you can see that

934
00:44:59,653 --> 00:45:01,437
she places both of her hands

935
00:45:01,481 --> 00:45:04,223
against the wall,
where they will remain.

936
00:45:04,963 --> 00:45:07,443
[Ryan] Come on, are there
any spirits here?

937
00:45:09,619 --> 00:45:11,404
Anyone who wants to communicate?

938
00:45:13,580 --> 00:45:15,800
Anyone frightened
of our presence?

939
00:45:17,062 --> 00:45:18,759
Anyone angry that we're here?

940
00:45:18,803 --> 00:45:20,369
[Chad] If you look right here,

941
00:45:20,413 --> 00:45:22,415
the handprint
is already appearing,

942
00:45:22,458 --> 00:45:23,895
which makes no sense,

943
00:45:23,938 --> 00:45:25,418
as my camera angle proves

944
00:45:25,461 --> 00:45:27,725
that nobody has touched
the wall there.

945
00:45:33,078 --> 00:45:34,688
What's the ten-year-old
girl's name?

946
00:45:34,732 --> 00:45:36,951
-[Michelle] Maria.
-Maria. Yeah.

947
00:45:38,953 --> 00:45:40,912
Are you trying
to frighten Maria?

948
00:45:40,955 --> 00:45:42,565
[Ryan] Michelle, did you put
your hand on the wall

949
00:45:42,609 --> 00:45:44,002
right behind you?

950
00:45:44,916 --> 00:45:46,265
Like, right to your
right shoulder.

951
00:45:46,308 --> 00:45:47,962
No, right where--
my hands are here.

952
00:45:48,006 --> 00:45:49,398
[Ryan] You sure?

953
00:45:49,442 --> 00:45:50,878
Like, right to your
right shoulder.

954
00:45:52,184 --> 00:45:53,838
This is a handprint right there.

955
00:45:55,361 --> 00:45:57,755
[Michelle] Oh, my God. Where?

956
00:45:57,798 --> 00:45:59,452
[Chad] Well, as you can see,

957
00:45:59,495 --> 00:46:01,323
there's a lot of issues
with this handprint,

958
00:46:01,367 --> 00:46:03,804
as it's not only much
larger than any handprint

959
00:46:03,848 --> 00:46:05,414
Michelle could have made,

960
00:46:05,458 --> 00:46:07,068
but it looks more
like a hand stamp

961
00:46:07,112 --> 00:46:09,157
as it's all nearly one colour,

962
00:46:09,201 --> 00:46:11,943
which means it's all
nearly one temperature.

963
00:46:11,986 --> 00:46:14,510
But the most important
aspect of this handprint

964
00:46:14,554 --> 00:46:17,035
is that the thumb
is facing inward,

965
00:46:17,078 --> 00:46:19,472
which means that if Michelle
would have touched the wall,

966
00:46:19,515 --> 00:46:22,127
she would have had
to twist her entire torso,

967
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:24,390
which, again,
as my footage proves,

968
00:46:24,433 --> 00:46:26,348
she never does.

969
00:46:26,392 --> 00:46:28,307
The only other person that
could have touched the wall

970
00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:30,048
is the cameraman.

971
00:46:30,091 --> 00:46:31,832
And as you saw at
the beginning of the clip,

972
00:46:31,876 --> 00:46:33,616
he walked right past Michelle.

973
00:46:34,313 --> 00:46:36,184
-[Ryan] Come closer, Michelle.
-[Chad] There it is.

974
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,883
-[Michelle] That was...
-[Chad] You didn't put your--

975
00:46:38,926 --> 00:46:40,623
[Ryan] She can't. No, dude.
Look where she's standing.

976
00:46:40,667 --> 00:46:42,843
She was standing there
the whole time she was here.

977
00:46:42,887 --> 00:46:44,584
[Ryan] You sure, Michelle?

978
00:46:44,627 --> 00:46:46,499
[Chad] Look, even if
she went like this--

979
00:46:46,542 --> 00:46:47,935
[Michelle] I hopped over,
I checked the closet.

980
00:46:47,979 --> 00:46:49,458
[Ryan] No, walked in with her,
bro.

981
00:46:49,502 --> 00:46:51,243
[Michelle] I stood here,
like this.

982
00:46:51,286 --> 00:46:53,114
-[Ryan] You see it? It's there.
-[Chad] Yeah, absolutely.

983
00:46:53,158 --> 00:46:54,724
[Chad] Although I can't attest

984
00:46:54,768 --> 00:46:56,509
to what was creating
the handprint,

985
00:46:56,552 --> 00:46:59,120
it was believed that
the deceased grandfather,

986
00:46:59,164 --> 00:47:01,035
who was a coal miner,

987
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:04,169
was actively haunting
only the females in the house,

988
00:47:04,212 --> 00:47:07,215
as he was said
to be extremely sexist,

989
00:47:07,259 --> 00:47:09,435
which is why Michelle
began provoking him.

990
00:47:09,478 --> 00:47:11,785
So, could this mean
that the grandfather

991
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:14,179
is responding to
Michelle's provocation

992
00:47:14,222 --> 00:47:17,225
by letting her know that
he's face to face with her?

993
00:47:17,269 --> 00:47:19,488
Well, the truth is that
none of us know for sure.

994
00:47:19,532 --> 00:47:23,057
But what I can tell you
is that this handprint

995
00:47:23,101 --> 00:47:24,580
should not be here.

996
00:47:26,713 --> 00:47:29,150
The following footage was
filmed at the Stanley Hotel,

997
00:47:29,194 --> 00:47:33,502
which is famous because Stephen
King, while staying in Room 217,

998
00:47:33,546 --> 00:47:35,200
had a paranormal experience

999
00:47:35,243 --> 00:47:37,767
that would inspire King
to writeThe Shining.

1000
00:47:37,811 --> 00:47:39,944
But in relation to
the following footage,

1001
00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:42,381
what's important is that
the Stanley Hotel

1002
00:47:42,424 --> 00:47:45,514
is said to be haunted by
the owner, F.O. Stanley,

1003
00:47:45,558 --> 00:47:48,039
who, after being diagnosed
with tuberculosis,

1004
00:47:48,082 --> 00:47:49,736
built the hotel

1005
00:47:49,779 --> 00:47:51,564
so he could live a life
where he can breathe

1006
00:47:51,607 --> 00:47:53,783
the cool mountain air
of Colorado.

1007
00:47:53,827 --> 00:47:55,394
While there are
countless legends

1008
00:47:55,437 --> 00:47:57,613
associated with the ghost
of F.O. Stanley,

1009
00:47:57,657 --> 00:48:00,616
after speaking with the manager
and a bartender,

1010
00:48:00,660 --> 00:48:03,706
they both told me
that should I cross paths

1011
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:05,578
with the ghost of F.O. Stanley,

1012
00:48:05,621 --> 00:48:08,973
I would know him by
the clicks of his boot heels.

1013
00:48:09,016 --> 00:48:11,889
Keep that in mind
as you watch this footage.

1014
00:48:18,417 --> 00:48:19,548
If you're in here,

1015
00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:22,508
please give us some
kind of sign that you are.

1016
00:48:25,554 --> 00:48:27,078
We don't mean any harm.

1017
00:48:28,862 --> 00:48:30,429
We're all here to document
your presence.

1018
00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:36,087
I want to show as many people
as we can that you're here.

1019
00:48:37,566 --> 00:48:39,046
We want people to know
your story.

1020
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:42,006
Please give us a sign.

1021
00:48:56,194 --> 00:48:57,891
[Laura] What is that
just-- That just came on.

1022
00:49:00,241 --> 00:49:01,329
[Chad] Where?

1023
00:49:07,857 --> 00:49:09,294
Did you hear the footsteps?

1024
00:49:09,337 --> 00:49:10,686
-[crewmember 2] Yeah.
-[Chad] Behind me.

1025
00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:11,905
-Did you hear them?
-That wasn't you?

1026
00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:13,776
[Chad] No. Did you--
[screams]

1027
00:49:13,820 --> 00:49:15,430
Yeah. Yeah.

1028
00:49:15,996 --> 00:49:17,780
Now manifest for us, please.

1029
00:49:17,824 --> 00:49:19,434
-Let us see you.
-[crewmember 2] Calm down.

1030
00:49:23,264 --> 00:49:25,092
[Chad] Did you hear
the footsteps?

1031
00:49:25,136 --> 00:49:26,615
-[crewmember 2] What? Yeah.
-Behind me. Do you hear them?

1032
00:49:26,659 --> 00:49:27,660
-[crewmember 2] That wasn't you?
-[Chad] No.

1033
00:49:32,012 --> 00:49:33,840
[Chad] Did you hear
the footsteps?

1034
00:49:33,883 --> 00:49:35,320
-[crewmember 2] What? Yeah.
-Behind me. Do you hear them?

1035
00:49:35,363 --> 00:49:36,756
-[crewmember 2] That wasn't you?
-[Chad] No.

1036
00:49:40,238 --> 00:49:42,066
[Chad] Did you hear
the footsteps?

1037
00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:43,589
-[crewmember 2] What? Yeah.
-Behind me. Do you hear them?

1038
00:49:43,632 --> 00:49:44,851
-[crewmember 2] That wasn't you?
-[Chad] No.

1039
00:49:44,894 --> 00:49:46,374
The footsteps
are one thing,

1040
00:49:46,418 --> 00:49:47,593
but what's really interesting
about this clip,

1041
00:49:47,636 --> 00:49:49,987
if you look, as my camera rises,

1042
00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:52,815
you'll see a shadow rise,
and then it darts across.

1043
00:49:52,859 --> 00:49:54,817
At first I thought,
"Oh, that's just, you know,

1044
00:49:54,861 --> 00:49:56,732
some kind of shadow
I'm creating."

1045
00:49:56,776 --> 00:49:58,256
But in slow motion,

1046
00:49:58,299 --> 00:50:00,127
you see that the shadow
is actually rising

1047
00:50:00,171 --> 00:50:01,999
faster than my camera.

1048
00:50:02,042 --> 00:50:05,176
It rises up the wall and
then it shoots down the wall.

1049
00:50:05,219 --> 00:50:06,699
Right after we heard
the table and the chair

1050
00:50:06,742 --> 00:50:07,961
slam into the wall.

1051
00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:09,658
Yeah, yeah.

1052
00:50:09,702 --> 00:50:11,747
Now manifest for us, please.

1053
00:50:11,791 --> 00:50:13,140
-Let us see you.
-[crewmember 2] Calm down.

1054
00:50:13,184 --> 00:50:15,055
Yeah, yeah.

1055
00:50:15,099 --> 00:50:16,970
Now manifest for us, please.

1056
00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:18,580
-Let us see you.
-[crewmember 2] Calm down.

1057
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,292
Felt different than in other
rooms we were in tonight.

1058
00:50:35,641 --> 00:50:38,513
And then you guys
said you heard footsteps.

1059
00:50:40,689 --> 00:50:42,517
[Chad] Did you hear
the footsteps?

1060
00:50:42,561 --> 00:50:43,866
-[crewmember 2] What? Yeah.
-Behind me. Did you hear them?

1061
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:45,390
-That wasn't you?
-[Chad] No.

1062
00:50:45,433 --> 00:50:48,393
A loud bang right in front of us
in the wall...

1063
00:50:48,436 --> 00:50:50,830
[screams and chuckles]

1064
00:50:50,873 --> 00:50:53,093
-[Laura screams]
-[Chad] Yeah, yeah.

1065
00:50:53,137 --> 00:50:54,616
It was pretty intense.

1066
00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:56,618
And, uh, you can see
by Laura's reaction,

1067
00:50:56,662 --> 00:50:58,229
she was scared out of her mind,

1068
00:50:58,272 --> 00:51:00,274
which I personally loved,
I thought it was great.

1069
00:51:00,318 --> 00:51:01,406
[laughs]

1070
00:51:02,668 --> 00:51:04,887
-[Laura screams]
-[Chad] Yeah. Yeah.

1071
00:51:05,584 --> 00:51:07,064
Now manifest for us, please.

1072
00:51:07,107 --> 00:51:08,761
-Let us see you.
-[crewmember] Calm down.

1073
00:51:08,804 --> 00:51:10,850
He's like, "Manifest, manifest."
I'm like, "Wait a minute.

1074
00:51:10,893 --> 00:51:12,895
If it's going to manifest, I'm
going to be behind you guys,

1075
00:51:12,939 --> 00:51:14,897
grabbing on your sweatshirt."

1076
00:51:14,941 --> 00:51:16,247
[Chad] Would you say that
was pretty legitimate?

1077
00:51:16,290 --> 00:51:17,900
Yeah.

1078
00:51:17,944 --> 00:51:19,467
Well, 'cause all the other
noises you were coming--

1079
00:51:19,511 --> 00:51:21,643
-hearing, like, pipes above.
-Yeah.

1080
00:51:21,687 --> 00:51:23,341
Or, you know,
nothing like right there

1081
00:51:23,384 --> 00:51:25,125
where it felt like
in the room by you.

1082
00:51:25,169 --> 00:51:26,605
-Right.
-'Til,

1083
00:51:26,648 --> 00:51:28,650
like, footsteps and bang.

1084
00:51:28,694 --> 00:51:30,609
[Chad] The video
you're about to see

1085
00:51:30,652 --> 00:51:34,091
was filmed at the West Virginia
State Penitentiary in 2005,

1086
00:51:34,134 --> 00:51:35,831
which blew my mind

1087
00:51:35,875 --> 00:51:38,486
as I had never before
experienced the activity

1088
00:51:38,530 --> 00:51:40,401
you're about to watch.

1089
00:51:40,445 --> 00:51:42,490
After spending five nights
in the historical prison,

1090
00:51:42,534 --> 00:51:44,405
we conducted several
investigations

1091
00:51:44,449 --> 00:51:47,060
of the five locations
said to be the most haunted.

1092
00:51:47,104 --> 00:51:48,583
The Sugar Shack, which served

1093
00:51:48,627 --> 00:51:50,368
as a recreational area
for the inmates.

1094
00:51:50,411 --> 00:51:53,240
The Hole, which was used
for solitary confinement,

1095
00:51:53,284 --> 00:51:54,720
the Warden's Tower,

1096
00:51:54,763 --> 00:51:56,330
the Psyche Ward
and the Hospital.

1097
00:51:56,374 --> 00:51:58,289
When all was said and done,

1098
00:51:58,332 --> 00:52:00,378
both the cast and crew had
several personal experiences

1099
00:52:00,421 --> 00:52:02,162
and fortunately for us,

1100
00:52:02,206 --> 00:52:03,859
we were able to back
these experiences up

1101
00:52:03,903 --> 00:52:05,513
with some hard evidence.

1102
00:52:05,557 --> 00:52:06,949
On the third night
of our investigation,

1103
00:52:06,993 --> 00:52:08,864
at about 4:35 a.m.,

1104
00:52:08,908 --> 00:52:11,650
our audio guy Tim came down
and grabbed me and said, "Chad,

1105
00:52:11,693 --> 00:52:13,608
you got to get down
here and see this."

1106
00:52:13,652 --> 00:52:16,568
What you're looking at here is
something that I cannot explain.

1107
00:52:16,611 --> 00:52:18,439
The lights that you see
circling the sugar shack

1108
00:52:18,483 --> 00:52:20,354
are actually slanted,

1109
00:52:20,398 --> 00:52:22,356
in the opposite direction
that the rain is falling.

1110
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,271
And it's not as though
we captured this activity

1111
00:52:24,315 --> 00:52:25,968
for a short time.

1112
00:52:26,012 --> 00:52:28,580
We captured these
lights for 18 minutes.

1113
00:52:28,623 --> 00:52:30,495
We hit the Sugar Shack
with flashlights

1114
00:52:30,538 --> 00:52:32,497
and the dancing lights
came back.

1115
00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:34,412
We waved our hand
in front of the camera,

1116
00:52:34,455 --> 00:52:37,023
and still the dancing
lights came back.

1117
00:52:37,066 --> 00:52:39,330
In fact, our local P.A., Tom,
mustered up enough courage

1118
00:52:39,373 --> 00:52:41,201
to go sprinting
through the lights,

1119
00:52:41,245 --> 00:52:43,725
and still, the dancing
lights came back.

1120
00:52:43,769 --> 00:52:46,859
In short, I've watched this
video hundreds of times,

1121
00:52:46,902 --> 00:52:50,341
and to this day we are still
researching this phenomenon.

1122
00:52:50,384 --> 00:52:52,125
As I mentioned earlier,

1123
00:52:52,169 --> 00:52:54,562
we filmed this footage in 2005,

1124
00:52:55,172 --> 00:52:56,782
but in 2010,

1125
00:52:56,825 --> 00:52:58,740
while at the Villisca
Axe Murder House,

1126
00:52:58,784 --> 00:53:00,829
we filmed
the following activity,

1127
00:53:00,873 --> 00:53:02,657
which is incredibly similar,

1128
00:53:02,701 --> 00:53:06,705
especially when you compare both
pieces of evidence side by side.

1129
00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:09,490
Holy shit.

1130
00:53:17,542 --> 00:53:19,326
The footage you're about to see

1131
00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:22,024
took place in the poker room
of the St. James Hotel,

1132
00:53:22,068 --> 00:53:24,157
in which we had only
been investigating

1133
00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:27,378
for nine and a half minutes
when the following occurred.

1134
00:53:34,907 --> 00:53:36,952
Something's not right.
Something's not right.

1135
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,130
[Mary Beth]

1136
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,834
[Chad]

1137
00:53:51,532 --> 00:53:54,187
-[Mary Beth] Are you okay?
-[Chad] Yeah, just resting.

1138
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:58,583
[Mary Beth]
If there's any spirit here,

1139
00:53:59,584 --> 00:54:02,587
you're going to have to do
something that we know is you.

1140
00:54:06,025 --> 00:54:08,201
[Chad] You need
to communicate with us.

1141
00:54:18,429 --> 00:54:19,517
[chair scrapes]

1142
00:54:20,779 --> 00:54:22,302
-Did you see it?
-[Mary Beth] Yep.

1143
00:54:22,346 --> 00:54:23,782
The chair moved.

1144
00:54:23,825 --> 00:54:26,306
-[Mary Beth] Yeah.
-The chair fucking moved.

1145
00:54:26,350 --> 00:54:28,047
[chair scrapes]

1146
00:54:31,659 --> 00:54:33,182
[Mary Beth] I'm shaking so bad.

1147
00:54:35,576 --> 00:54:36,969
That was a sign.

1148
00:54:38,231 --> 00:54:39,754
[Justin] Chad, do you copy?

1149
00:54:40,929 --> 00:54:44,063
[Mary Beth] We just had
a chair move, we're, uh--

1150
00:54:44,106 --> 00:54:46,370
We're going to have to chill out
for just a second.

1151
00:54:46,413 --> 00:54:48,023
[Chad] It should also
be noted that

1152
00:54:48,067 --> 00:54:49,677
since the goal
of this investigation

1153
00:54:49,721 --> 00:54:51,723
was to present our
findings to the public

1154
00:54:51,766 --> 00:54:54,203
because Mary Beth and I
were the only ones in the room

1155
00:54:54,247 --> 00:54:56,205
that could have affected
the chair physically.

1156
00:54:56,249 --> 00:54:58,904
I asked Justin and Joe
to recreate the event,

1157
00:54:58,947 --> 00:55:00,775
in which they clearly
demonstrated

1158
00:55:00,819 --> 00:55:02,777
that we were too far
away from the chair

1159
00:55:02,821 --> 00:55:04,344
to have affected it.

1160
00:55:04,388 --> 00:55:06,215
But I think in general,

1161
00:55:06,259 --> 00:55:08,043
whenever you experience
activity that's close to you,

1162
00:55:08,087 --> 00:55:11,786
it's always a good idea to have
somebody else recreate the event

1163
00:55:11,830 --> 00:55:14,746
in hopes of legitimizing it
or debunking it.

1164
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:16,965
[Joe] All right,
here's the poker room.

1165
00:55:17,009 --> 00:55:19,490
Um, if they were sitting
right here

1166
00:55:19,533 --> 00:55:21,274
and that's the chair that
moved...

1167
00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:23,058
[Justin] Sure.

1168
00:55:23,102 --> 00:55:25,234
If I'm Mary Beth and I'm trying
to make that move forward

1169
00:55:25,278 --> 00:55:26,714
towards me,

1170
00:55:26,758 --> 00:55:29,282
you'd have to reach
down and hook that.

1171
00:55:29,326 --> 00:55:30,588
-Yeah.
-Right?

1172
00:55:30,631 --> 00:55:32,024
It was pushed from the back.

1173
00:55:32,067 --> 00:55:33,721
Yeah, it did lift up, didn't it?
Yeah.

1174
00:55:33,765 --> 00:55:35,244
[Joe] It lifts up from the back.

1175
00:55:37,508 --> 00:55:40,206
Same case. I mean, you're in
a pretty long distance there.

1176
00:55:40,249 --> 00:55:41,947
Yeah, I'm 6'5".

1177
00:55:43,078 --> 00:55:46,038
I can touch it, but I--
but I can't pop it forward.

1178
00:55:46,081 --> 00:55:47,605
-Yeah.
-I can't make it lean forward.

1179
00:55:47,648 --> 00:55:50,390
If you watch the video,
before that happens,

1180
00:55:50,434 --> 00:55:51,739
it's dead quiet

1181
00:55:51,783 --> 00:55:53,175
and all you can hear is Chad.

1182
00:55:56,004 --> 00:55:58,442
[Chad] I mean, my heart's
beating so...

1183
00:55:58,485 --> 00:56:00,531
[chair scrapes]

1184
00:56:01,009 --> 00:56:02,315
a-Did you see it?
-[Mary Beth] Yeah.

1185
00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:03,751
[Chad] The chair moved.

1186
00:56:03,795 --> 00:56:05,318
If he was going to move
and hook his leg,

1187
00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:06,537
just listen to this chair.

1188
00:56:06,580 --> 00:56:08,147
-I mean...
-Yeah.

1189
00:56:08,190 --> 00:56:09,757
-There's no way.
-Yeah.

1190
00:56:09,801 --> 00:56:11,237
I think we got
something good, man.

1191
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,369
Yeah.

1192
00:56:13,761 --> 00:56:15,502
[Chad]
Filmed on the fourth floor

1193
00:56:15,546 --> 00:56:17,939
of the Waverly Hills Sanatorium
by my friend, Adrian,

1194
00:56:17,983 --> 00:56:19,811
during ourTerror Normal
investigation,

1195
00:56:19,854 --> 00:56:22,553
we know that Adrian was
completely alone as he conducted

1196
00:56:22,596 --> 00:56:24,468
this walk-through with
a thermal camera.

1197
00:56:24,511 --> 00:56:27,079
Although we didn't see it at
the time in which he filmed it,

1198
00:56:27,122 --> 00:56:29,037
as his camera sways
back and forth,

1199
00:56:29,081 --> 00:56:30,909
Adrian documents an entity

1200
00:56:30,952 --> 00:56:33,215
that steps forward
and blacks out the exit light,

1201
00:56:33,259 --> 00:56:36,480
which is approximately
ten feet off the ground.

1202
00:56:36,523 --> 00:56:38,003
Take a look at this footage.

1203
00:56:38,046 --> 00:56:39,570
If you look very closely,

1204
00:56:39,613 --> 00:56:41,746
you can clearly see something

1205
00:56:41,789 --> 00:56:44,183
which looks like another
full bodied apparition

1206
00:56:44,226 --> 00:56:46,315
steps in front of the light,
blacking it out.

1207
00:57:27,835 --> 00:57:29,533
As I mentioned earlier,

1208
00:57:29,576 --> 00:57:31,491
from our own personal
sweeps of the building

1209
00:57:31,535 --> 00:57:33,928
and also from reviewing
security cameras,

1210
00:57:33,972 --> 00:57:36,191
we know that Adrian
was completely alone.

1211
00:57:36,235 --> 00:57:38,542
But beyond that,
this is not a human being,

1212
00:57:38,585 --> 00:57:41,458
as human beings look like this
on thermal camera.

1213
00:57:46,201 --> 00:57:48,290
So, with all options considered,

1214
00:57:48,334 --> 00:57:50,292
I do believe that Adrian
documented

1215
00:57:50,336 --> 00:57:52,991
some form of apparition
in this footage.

1216
00:57:55,907 --> 00:57:57,778
The following footage was filmed

1217
00:57:57,822 --> 00:58:01,173
at the Lake Conneaut Hotel after
investigating a linen room.

1218
00:58:01,216 --> 00:58:04,306
As I was walking out,
something breathed in my ear.

1219
00:58:04,350 --> 00:58:05,786
After exiting the room,

1220
00:58:05,830 --> 00:58:07,875
I quickly turned around
to reenter,

1221
00:58:07,919 --> 00:58:09,921
but as though I was not welcome,

1222
00:58:09,964 --> 00:58:13,185
the door began to close
of its own accord.

1223
00:58:14,708 --> 00:58:16,188
[Ryan] You want to stay there?

1224
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:18,016
[Chad] Oh, shit.

1225
00:58:18,059 --> 00:58:19,583
Dude, no, I totally just...

1226
00:58:22,934 --> 00:58:25,284
Ryan, something just
breathed in my ear.

1227
00:58:27,068 --> 00:58:28,156
Why is the door moving?

1228
00:58:32,509 --> 00:58:33,510
[Ryan] You want to stay there?

1229
00:58:34,859 --> 00:58:37,383
[Chad] Oh, shit.
Dude, no, I totally just...

1230
00:58:40,691 --> 00:58:43,084
Ryan, something just
breathed in my ear.

1231
00:58:44,869 --> 00:58:47,001
Why is the door moving?

1232
00:58:47,045 --> 00:58:49,787
[Chad] It should also be pointed
out that we spent over an hour

1233
00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:52,267
trying to get this door
to close on its own.

1234
00:58:52,311 --> 00:58:53,704
I'm not a wood expert,

1235
00:58:53,747 --> 00:58:55,662
so I don't know
what kind of wood

1236
00:58:55,706 --> 00:58:57,708
the door was made out of,
but it was extremely heavy.

1237
00:58:57,751 --> 00:59:00,754
But the weirdest thing is that
there was actually a spring

1238
00:59:00,798 --> 00:59:04,018
connected to the door
that held it open.

1239
00:59:04,062 --> 00:59:05,629
So, in order for it to shut,

1240
00:59:05,672 --> 00:59:08,022
you would have to apply
a lot of pressure

1241
00:59:08,066 --> 00:59:09,589
from the back side of the door,

1242
00:59:09,633 --> 00:59:11,504
which clearly,
that did not happen,

1243
00:59:11,548 --> 00:59:14,986
as the door began to shut on me
as I tried to reenter it.

1244
00:59:16,378 --> 00:59:17,684
[Ryan] You want to stay there?

1245
00:59:18,729 --> 00:59:21,296
[Chad] Oh, shit.
Dude, no, I totally just...

1246
00:59:24,648 --> 00:59:26,737
Ryan, something just
breathed in my ear.

1247
00:59:28,739 --> 00:59:29,827
Why is the door moving?

1248
00:59:32,743 --> 00:59:34,614
[Chad] As you'll see
in this footage,

1249
00:59:34,658 --> 00:59:37,399
which was filmed in the hallway
of the Thomas House Hotel,

1250
00:59:37,443 --> 00:59:39,401
as I'm discussing
some of the legends

1251
00:59:39,445 --> 00:59:41,403
that I've heard about the
hauntings at the Thomas house,

1252
00:59:41,447 --> 00:59:43,841
Ryan actually freaks out.

1253
00:59:43,884 --> 00:59:45,756
After this happens,

1254
00:59:45,799 --> 00:59:47,627
I want you to look at
the right side of the curtains

1255
00:59:47,671 --> 00:59:50,848
as they fold in on themselves
and then stay folded

1256
00:59:50,891 --> 00:59:52,632
as though something
was holding it.

1257
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,548
[Ryan] We sure got
something interesting.

1258
00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:57,724
-The door opened for her.
-Really?

1259
00:59:57,768 --> 00:59:59,987
-[Ryan] Yeah.
-Let's go then. Where?

1260
01:00:00,031 --> 01:00:02,337
[Ryan] Well, she's try to see
if it happens again.

1261
01:00:02,381 --> 01:00:03,730
It's in that picture room.

1262
01:00:03,774 --> 01:00:05,210
-No shit.
-[Ryan] Yeah.

1263
01:00:05,253 --> 01:00:06,951
-That's bad ass.
-[Ryan] Yeah.

1264
01:00:06,994 --> 01:00:09,997
We'll fucking bring them
here, though, you know?

1265
01:00:10,041 --> 01:00:11,564
[Ryan] It actually
happened twice,

1266
01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:12,826
trying to get it to happen
the third time.

1267
01:00:14,654 --> 01:00:16,003
You know what
the weird thing is, Ryan?

1268
01:00:17,265 --> 01:00:19,616
And it's the first time I've
felt this way in a long time.

1269
01:00:20,138 --> 01:00:22,531
-Oh, my God.
-I feel like whatever's here

1270
01:00:23,184 --> 01:00:24,272
is scared of me.

1271
01:00:25,186 --> 01:00:26,405
-[Ryan] Scared of you?
-Yeah.

1272
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,017
Like it doesn't want
to come close to me.

1273
01:00:32,716 --> 01:00:33,891
And I don't know why.

1274
01:00:35,936 --> 01:00:37,024
But I feel that way.

1275
01:00:39,331 --> 01:00:41,507
It's almost like it--
it needs fear.

1276
01:00:42,377 --> 01:00:45,816
Like it needs fear, you know,
like to do something to you

1277
01:00:46,817 --> 01:00:47,905
or to...

1278
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:53,432
-Hmm.
-I don't know.

1279
01:00:54,085 --> 01:00:55,652
Look, I'm fucking
postulating, too.

1280
01:00:55,695 --> 01:00:58,045
I know that's bad,
I'm just saying, but...

1281
01:00:58,959 --> 01:01:00,047
That's how I feel right now.

1282
01:01:01,745 --> 01:01:03,485
I mean, this is one
creepy-ass setting,

1283
01:01:03,529 --> 01:01:05,139
I should have some kind
of weird feeling, you know?

1284
01:01:07,054 --> 01:01:08,926
That presence feeling
you talk about,

1285
01:01:08,969 --> 01:01:10,710
you know, we talk about that,
knowing that unnatural thing.

1286
01:01:10,754 --> 01:01:13,365
Like, I felt it for, like, two
seconds and it was like,

1287
01:01:13,408 --> 01:01:15,759
it just, "Hoo--" just left,
you know?

1288
01:01:15,802 --> 01:01:17,499
I was just like,
"Get your ass back here."

1289
01:01:17,543 --> 01:01:18,936
You know what I mean?
Like...

1290
01:01:18,979 --> 01:01:20,067
[Ryan] Yeah.

1291
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,722
Because Tom that we interviewed,

1292
01:01:22,766 --> 01:01:24,419
I found very credible.

1293
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:27,640
I really did. Like, his methods,
everything about him.

1294
01:01:27,684 --> 01:01:29,076
He was calm, collective.

1295
01:01:29,642 --> 01:01:31,818
And he's telling me
that this thing choked his ass

1296
01:01:32,689 --> 01:01:34,125
and that he got blown back--

1297
01:01:34,168 --> 01:01:35,735
like, he got shot twice here
and here.

1298
01:01:35,779 --> 01:01:37,084
And that thing happened
again with another...

1299
01:01:37,128 --> 01:01:38,869
-[Ryan] Holy shit.
-[Chad] Fuck.

1300
01:01:38,912 --> 01:01:40,827
-[Ryan] Wait, wait, no.
-[Chad] What?

1301
01:01:41,610 --> 01:01:43,482
-What?
-[Ryan] You have a flash light?

1302
01:01:43,525 --> 01:01:44,831
[Chad] No.

1303
01:02:05,025 --> 01:02:07,114
[Chad] Come on, motherfucker.
Bring that shit.

1304
01:02:07,158 --> 01:02:08,855
-What?
-[Ryan exhaling deeply]

1305
01:02:08,899 --> 01:02:10,030
What did you see?

1306
01:02:13,860 --> 01:02:15,862
-What did you see?
-[Ryan chuckles incredulously]

1307
01:02:18,343 --> 01:02:19,692
What did you see?

1308
01:02:20,693 --> 01:02:22,216
-[Ryan] Ooh.
-[Chad] Like apparition?

1309
01:02:24,523 --> 01:02:26,133
-[Ryan] Dude, Chad?
-Yeah.

1310
01:02:26,177 --> 01:02:27,787
[Ryan] Are you sure there's
not something down here?

1311
01:02:29,789 --> 01:02:31,138
[Chad] After going back
to this room

1312
01:02:31,182 --> 01:02:32,836
and inspecting the curtains,

1313
01:02:32,879 --> 01:02:35,229
we could not get them
to move in any fashion.

1314
01:02:35,273 --> 01:02:38,015
In fact, the window was actually
sealed off with plastic

1315
01:02:38,058 --> 01:02:40,539
so even wind
could not penetrate it.

1316
01:02:40,582 --> 01:02:43,977
I honestly have no idea
what caused this activity.

1317
01:02:48,199 --> 01:02:50,854
The following footage,
which occurred at Waverly Hills,

1318
01:02:50,897 --> 01:02:53,030
is one of my favourite
examples of evidence,

1319
01:02:53,073 --> 01:02:55,032
because it's an incredible
demonstration

1320
01:02:55,075 --> 01:02:56,729
of intelligent response.

1321
01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:57,948
Check this out.

1322
01:02:57,991 --> 01:02:59,166
At the end of the first day

1323
01:02:59,210 --> 01:03:00,689
of our initial investigation,

1324
01:03:00,733 --> 01:03:02,430
I left my wave
recorder upstairs.

1325
01:03:02,474 --> 01:03:04,258
To be honest,
I was a little geeked out

1326
01:03:04,302 --> 01:03:06,043
and spooked out
by the day's events,

1327
01:03:06,086 --> 01:03:08,219
so Adrian offered to go up
and get it himself.

1328
01:03:08,262 --> 01:03:11,048
Well, while Adrian was up there,
this is what happened.

1329
01:03:11,091 --> 01:03:12,701
[Adrian] Hello?
Anybody here with us?

1330
01:03:14,355 --> 01:03:17,402
Make a sound
or appear for me if you can.

1331
01:03:22,668 --> 01:03:24,235
Hello?
Anybody here with us?

1332
01:03:25,932 --> 01:03:28,979
Make a sound
or appear for me if you can.

1333
01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:36,073
[Chad] It should also be pointed
out that Adrian was most

1334
01:03:36,116 --> 01:03:37,596
definitely completely alone

1335
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:39,337
during the filming
of the segment.

1336
01:03:39,380 --> 01:03:41,165
[Adrian] Hello?
Anybody here with us?

1337
01:03:42,862 --> 01:03:45,734
Make a sound
or appear for me if you can.

1338
01:03:46,344 --> 01:03:48,215
[striking]

1339
01:03:50,914 --> 01:03:52,829
[chad] What I love the most
about this footage

1340
01:03:52,872 --> 01:03:54,526
is its simplicity.

1341
01:03:54,569 --> 01:03:56,223
Adrian asked for two things.

1342
01:03:56,267 --> 01:03:58,486
Let me hear you
and show yourself,

1343
01:03:58,530 --> 01:04:00,314
in which immediately,

1344
01:04:00,358 --> 01:04:02,273
he hears two knocks
at the end of the corridor,

1345
01:04:02,316 --> 01:04:05,058
and then what appears to be
some sort of fog or smoke

1346
01:04:05,102 --> 01:04:07,626
rushing out of the concrete
from bottom to top

1347
01:04:07,669 --> 01:04:09,149
appears right in front of him.

1348
01:04:09,933 --> 01:04:11,369
In my humble opinion,

1349
01:04:11,412 --> 01:04:13,937
this is some truly
amazing footage.

1350
01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:16,287
[Adrian] Hello?
Anybody here with us?

1351
01:04:18,071 --> 01:04:20,987
Make a sound
or appear for me if you can.

1352
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,598
[striking]

1353
01:04:29,387 --> 01:04:30,910
[Chad] The following sequence,

1354
01:04:30,954 --> 01:04:32,869
which was filmed
at Chillingham Castle,

1355
01:04:32,912 --> 01:04:36,089
provided me with all
I needed to believe in ghosts.

1356
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,483
When this segment begins,

1357
01:04:38,526 --> 01:04:40,398
you will see me in the chapel,

1358
01:04:40,441 --> 01:04:42,835
in which I am provoking the
spirit of former head torturer,

1359
01:04:42,879 --> 01:04:44,271
John Sage,

1360
01:04:44,315 --> 01:04:45,925
who is believed to be the ghost

1361
01:04:45,969 --> 01:04:49,059
of a child rapist
and a murderer.

1362
01:04:49,102 --> 01:04:52,236
After provoking Sage
for only a few minutes,

1363
01:04:52,279 --> 01:04:55,065
something truly incredible
was documented.

1364
01:04:58,764 --> 01:05:00,287
[Chad in footage] If you're
going to communicate, John,

1365
01:05:00,331 --> 01:05:01,767
you better do
something definitive.

1366
01:05:01,810 --> 01:05:03,464
I better know for a fact
it's you.

1367
01:05:05,466 --> 01:05:08,513
To kill kids, seriously?

1368
01:05:08,556 --> 01:05:10,994
I don't know how a man
was measured

1369
01:05:11,037 --> 01:05:12,778
in the 12th and 13th century,

1370
01:05:12,821 --> 01:05:14,867
but I can tell you
if you did that today,

1371
01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:16,434
you would be locked up,

1372
01:05:16,477 --> 01:05:17,957
you would go to jail,

1373
01:05:18,001 --> 01:05:19,654
you would become
somebody's girlfriend.

1374
01:05:21,482 --> 01:05:23,223
What the fuck?

1375
01:05:23,267 --> 01:05:24,964
Oh, my God.

1376
01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:26,444
[Chad] Jesus!

1377
01:05:32,667 --> 01:05:33,755
I just stood up

1378
01:05:35,888 --> 01:05:37,498
and I started talking,

1379
01:05:37,542 --> 01:05:41,720
and the seat pad that I was
sitting on came off

1380
01:05:42,764 --> 01:05:45,202
the pew.
It's right here.

1381
01:05:49,815 --> 01:05:52,339
-Did you guys have eyes on me?
-Yeah.

1382
01:05:52,383 --> 01:05:54,037
-On the pew?
-Yeah.

1383
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,039
[Chad] Did I do that when
I stood up with the seat?

1384
01:05:56,082 --> 01:05:57,649
We can't tell from here.

1385
01:05:57,692 --> 01:05:59,564
[Chad] I said, "But in today's,
you know, world,

1386
01:05:59,607 --> 01:06:01,435
you'd become somebody's bitch."

1387
01:06:01,479 --> 01:06:04,699
I looked down and the entire
length of the pew seat is off

1388
01:06:04,743 --> 01:06:06,788
and falling around
my fucking legs.

1389
01:06:06,832 --> 01:06:08,486
[crewmember] What do you mean
it's off and falling?

1390
01:06:08,529 --> 01:06:10,096
-Come look at it, come look.
-[crewmember] It fell?

1391
01:06:10,140 --> 01:06:12,577
Yes. The whole length
of the entire seat.

1392
01:06:14,187 --> 01:06:15,710
Yeah, you don't gotta
touch anything.

1393
01:06:15,754 --> 01:06:17,582
I left it exactly where it was
and shouted out.

1394
01:06:18,887 --> 01:06:21,978
The whole thing was moving off.
The whole thing.

1395
01:06:22,021 --> 01:06:23,414
[Mary Beth] This has non-skid
on the back--

1396
01:06:23,457 --> 01:06:25,242
-Seat that has non-skid?
-[Mary Beth] Yeah.

1397
01:06:25,285 --> 01:06:27,461
[crew] Sit down and stand up
and actually try to pull it off.

1398
01:06:31,857 --> 01:06:33,902
-Yeah, no, no fucking way, dude.
-[crew] Yeah.

1399
01:06:35,904 --> 01:06:38,255
I mean, you're just awkwardly
trying to pull it off.

1400
01:06:38,298 --> 01:06:39,734
And it's not coming.

1401
01:06:39,778 --> 01:06:41,301
Dude, there's no way on earth.

1402
01:06:41,345 --> 01:06:43,608
I can't take this off
if I'm trying.

1403
01:06:43,651 --> 01:06:45,044
-[crew] Yeah.
-I can't take this off

1404
01:06:45,088 --> 01:06:46,785
if I'm trying.
We have that DVR footage.

1405
01:06:46,828 --> 01:06:50,397
You'll see how long I'm talking
before anything happens.

1406
01:06:50,441 --> 01:06:53,574
It looked like you stood up
and were saying something

1407
01:06:53,618 --> 01:06:55,359
or talking,
and then you freak out.

1408
01:06:55,402 --> 01:06:58,057
[Chad] Drag it like that.
That's not how it did.

1409
01:06:58,623 --> 01:07:00,016
It all moved at once.

1410
01:07:01,495 --> 01:07:03,932
If you look to
the right-hand corner,

1411
01:07:03,976 --> 01:07:06,152
you're going to see
the very end of it,

1412
01:07:06,196 --> 01:07:08,111
and it comes off
with such force,

1413
01:07:08,154 --> 01:07:10,417
you're going to see it pop up
here in the corner.

1414
01:07:10,461 --> 01:07:13,159
You're going to see
the-- the-- the actual seat.

1415
01:07:13,203 --> 01:07:15,074
And you're also going to notice
that when I stand up

1416
01:07:15,118 --> 01:07:16,858
and start talking,

1417
01:07:16,902 --> 01:07:19,687
I have one hand on the camera,
one hand is in my pocket.

1418
01:07:19,731 --> 01:07:21,298
I did not touch anything.

1419
01:07:21,341 --> 01:07:24,779
If you did that today,
you would be locked up.

1420
01:07:24,823 --> 01:07:26,129
You would go to jail.

1421
01:07:26,172 --> 01:07:27,739
You would become
somebody's girlfriend.

1422
01:07:29,741 --> 01:07:31,917
What the fuck? Ah!

1423
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,266
You would go to jail.

1424
01:07:33,310 --> 01:07:35,225
You would become
somebody's girlfriend.

1425
01:07:36,748 --> 01:07:39,098
What the fuck? Ah!

1426
01:07:42,623 --> 01:07:43,972
You would go to jail.

1427
01:07:44,016 --> 01:07:45,670
You would become
somebody's girlfriend.

1428
01:07:47,411 --> 01:07:49,717
What the fuck? Ah!

1429
01:07:52,764 --> 01:07:55,419
The cushions [indistinct]
you've been sitting on yourself.

1430
01:07:56,115 --> 01:07:57,508
This table's where they put
everything.

1431
01:07:58,335 --> 01:08:01,555
Like, back to normal for when
the people come in for a visit.

1432
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,515
They're all off the floor.
They're all on the floor.

1433
01:08:04,558 --> 01:08:05,646
They've all been pulled off.

1434
01:08:06,604 --> 01:08:09,172
That's-- It's-- It's fantastic
to actually see it.

1435
01:08:09,215 --> 01:08:11,783
[Chad] To be honest,
I was incredibly thankful

1436
01:08:11,826 --> 01:08:13,828
to see Graham
excited by the fact

1437
01:08:13,872 --> 01:08:16,875
that we documented
the pew cushions being thrown,

1438
01:08:16,918 --> 01:08:18,137
because the day before,

1439
01:08:18,181 --> 01:08:20,008
shortly after it happened,

1440
01:08:20,052 --> 01:08:22,576
he was upset by the fact
that I was asking John Sage

1441
01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:24,056
to come to the chapel,

1442
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:25,666
as Graham believes the chapel

1443
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:27,494
to be the peaceful home
of a child spirit

1444
01:08:27,538 --> 01:08:29,235
named Eleanor,

1445
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:32,325
in which she hides in the chapel
to avoid John Sage.

1446
01:08:32,847 --> 01:08:36,155
Do get pulled off. They're
saying it's a mischievous child.

1447
01:08:36,199 --> 01:08:38,288
So, you're dealing
with someone,

1448
01:08:38,331 --> 01:08:40,159
though she's about
ten, 12 year old.

1449
01:08:40,203 --> 01:08:41,508
[crew] This happens often?

1450
01:08:41,552 --> 01:08:43,075
[Graham]
When she's having a tantrum.

1451
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:44,903
-[Chad] Wow.
-[crew] What's her name?

1452
01:08:45,860 --> 01:08:47,471
[crew] Eleanor. Yeah,
she probably didn't like--

1453
01:08:47,514 --> 01:08:48,602
[Chad] Eleanor.

1454
01:08:48,646 --> 01:08:50,561
Eleanor, I sorry. I was really--

1455
01:08:50,604 --> 01:08:52,302
I'm being dead serious.

1456
01:08:52,345 --> 01:08:54,391
Eleanor, I was really
tired last night

1457
01:08:54,434 --> 01:08:56,088
and I fell asleep a few times.

1458
01:08:56,828 --> 01:08:57,916
I'm sorry, Eleanor.

1459
01:08:58,612 --> 01:09:01,615
With you being in,
as clusters, her area--

1460
01:09:01,659 --> 01:09:03,182
[clears throat] Sorry.

1461
01:09:03,226 --> 01:09:04,879
-[Chad] She's pissed.
-"John Sage. John Sage."

1462
01:09:04,923 --> 01:09:06,751
She did not like that.

1463
01:09:06,794 --> 01:09:08,361
[Chad] Once I learned this
and reviewed the evidence

1464
01:09:08,405 --> 01:09:10,581
that we captured
from the control room,

1465
01:09:10,624 --> 01:09:12,191
I was blown away.

1466
01:09:12,235 --> 01:09:13,627
As without my knowing,

1467
01:09:13,671 --> 01:09:15,629
there was a much bigger picture

1468
01:09:15,673 --> 01:09:18,458
that was playing out
right before our eyes.

1469
01:09:18,502 --> 01:09:21,374
If you remember the audio
evidence from earlier,

1470
01:09:21,418 --> 01:09:23,985
at the same time
that a side door opened,

1471
01:09:24,029 --> 01:09:26,205
my team heard
a disembodied voice

1472
01:09:26,249 --> 01:09:29,382
of a young girl who had
a British accent saying,

1473
01:09:29,426 --> 01:09:31,645
"He's not there."

1474
01:09:31,689 --> 01:09:32,907
[female voice] He's not there.

1475
01:09:35,258 --> 01:09:37,912
[Chad] Well, only five minutes
after that happened,

1476
01:09:37,956 --> 01:09:40,088
the pew cushion
was thrown at me.

1477
01:09:40,132 --> 01:09:41,438
You would go to jail,

1478
01:09:41,481 --> 01:09:43,048
you would become
somebody's girlfriend.

1479
01:09:44,832 --> 01:09:46,660
What the fuck?

1480
01:09:46,704 --> 01:09:48,662
So, if we take
Graham at his word

1481
01:09:48,706 --> 01:09:51,317
and plug in the legend
of Eleanor and John Sage,

1482
01:09:51,361 --> 01:09:54,190
because my team and I
are not in radio contact,

1483
01:09:54,233 --> 01:09:56,235
it would appear
as though Eleanor

1484
01:09:56,279 --> 01:10:00,457
is trying to let my team know
that John Sage is not there.

1485
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:03,286
He's not in the chapel.
That's who I'm calling for.

1486
01:10:03,329 --> 01:10:06,027
And at the time,
the door opens.

1487
01:10:06,071 --> 01:10:08,943
That door led
to the chapel stairwell.

1488
01:10:08,987 --> 01:10:10,293
-[Joe] That's the only door?
-[Mary Beth] Yeah.

1489
01:10:10,336 --> 01:10:11,642
There's not one to the outside.

1490
01:10:11,685 --> 01:10:13,252
So, it was that door.

1491
01:10:13,296 --> 01:10:15,602
Yeah.

1492
01:10:15,646 --> 01:10:18,257
[Chad] So, again, it appears
as though Eleanor

1493
01:10:18,301 --> 01:10:20,694
is telling my team,
"He's not there,"

1494
01:10:20,738 --> 01:10:22,305
as she opens the door to say,

1495
01:10:22,348 --> 01:10:25,046
"Go to the chapel and tell Chad,

1496
01:10:25,090 --> 01:10:27,614
John Sage is not here,
get him to stop."

1497
01:10:27,658 --> 01:10:29,268
When they didn't react,

1498
01:10:29,312 --> 01:10:32,010
the pew cushion
was thrown at me,

1499
01:10:33,403 --> 01:10:35,056
which, as you guys saw,

1500
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:36,797
Graham says that Eleanor
throws the pew cushions

1501
01:10:36,841 --> 01:10:38,495
on the ground all the time

1502
01:10:38,538 --> 01:10:41,280
because she doesn't want
people in the chapel,

1503
01:10:41,324 --> 01:10:44,152
because John Sage
follows people.

1504
01:10:45,197 --> 01:10:46,851
As crazy as this all may seem

1505
01:10:46,894 --> 01:10:49,723
to somebody who did not
experience these events,

1506
01:10:49,767 --> 01:10:53,466
as the person who did,
this makes perfect sense.

1507
01:10:54,598 --> 01:10:56,164
And with that, my friends,

1508
01:10:56,208 --> 01:10:57,992
as I told you all
in the beginning,

1509
01:10:58,036 --> 01:11:00,343
I'm not attempting to make
you believe in ghosts.

1510
01:11:00,386 --> 01:11:03,302
I'm simply telling you
what I believe.

1511
01:11:03,346 --> 01:11:05,652
And after living through
all of these experiences

1512
01:11:05,696 --> 01:11:08,046
over the course of 25 years,

1513
01:11:08,089 --> 01:11:11,136
I found the answers
to my questions.

1514
01:11:11,179 --> 01:11:12,790
At the very least,

1515
01:11:12,833 --> 01:11:15,488
I hope I've inspired you
to seek out the answers

1516
01:11:15,532 --> 01:11:17,534
to the questions
that you may have

1517
01:11:17,577 --> 01:11:19,579
in regard to the supernatural,

1518
01:11:19,623 --> 01:11:22,452
the spiritual,
and the paranormal.

1519
01:11:22,495 --> 01:11:25,498
But far beyond satisfying
my own curiosity.

1520
01:11:25,542 --> 01:11:29,763
I've also truly enjoyed playing
the role of the student,

1521
01:11:29,807 --> 01:11:32,113
in which there's three things
that I would like to share

1522
01:11:32,157 --> 01:11:35,726
with you that I believe
I discovered along the way.

1523
01:11:35,769 --> 01:11:39,077
[eerie music]

1524
01:11:42,907 --> 01:11:45,866
The first thing that I believe
I've discovered along this

1525
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:47,607
incredible journey

1526
01:11:47,651 --> 01:11:50,262
is what it takes to experience
a paranormal activity.

1527
01:11:51,089 --> 01:11:52,525
And I think it's belief.

1528
01:11:52,569 --> 01:11:54,788
I think you have to
believe in it,

1529
01:11:54,832 --> 01:11:57,313
because I've seen it
over and over again,

1530
01:11:57,356 --> 01:12:00,881
where people will come into
a paranormal investigation

1531
01:12:00,925 --> 01:12:04,885
and they will be so committed
to not believing

1532
01:12:04,929 --> 01:12:08,976
and not having an experience
that they won't.

1533
01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:11,675
And I've been with them where
it seems like nothing happens.

1534
01:12:11,718 --> 01:12:14,155
We jokingly call
them paranormal coolers,

1535
01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:17,289
uh, because when they come in
the room, like, nothing happens.

1536
01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:19,639
But I think that speaks
to the power of the mind.

1537
01:12:20,292 --> 01:12:22,338
The power of the mind
is something that

1538
01:12:23,861 --> 01:12:26,603
the world's greatest scientists
cannot figure out.

1539
01:12:26,646 --> 01:12:29,388
The mind is doing
things all the time.

1540
01:12:29,432 --> 01:12:32,522
Our subconscious is doing
things all the time,

1541
01:12:32,565 --> 01:12:34,088
and we don't know what it is.

1542
01:12:34,132 --> 01:12:36,439
But we know it's active,
we know it's working.

1543
01:12:36,482 --> 01:12:38,092
But I've seen examples of belief

1544
01:12:38,136 --> 01:12:39,616
physically affecting
things in the room.

1545
01:12:39,659 --> 01:12:41,531
For example, I'm going
to play you a clip here.

1546
01:12:41,574 --> 01:12:44,795
This is actually from the
Paranormal Stateinvestigation,

1547
01:12:44,838 --> 01:12:46,318
Church of the Damned.

1548
01:12:46,362 --> 01:12:48,059
I was in a room
where this growling

1549
01:12:48,102 --> 01:12:49,582
was recorded
over and over again,

1550
01:12:49,626 --> 01:12:51,497
it was an intense growling.

1551
01:12:51,541 --> 01:12:54,457
Ryan and Chip decided
to go down into the room.

1552
01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:56,415
Now, they're both Catholic,
okay?

1553
01:12:56,459 --> 01:12:58,199
They felt as though

1554
01:12:59,070 --> 01:13:01,202
the prayer of St. Michael

1555
01:13:01,246 --> 01:13:03,770
would be effective
in cleansing this room.

1556
01:13:04,292 --> 01:13:07,992
Chip goes on with this--
this St. Michael's prayer.

1557
01:13:08,775 --> 01:13:10,560
And as he's doing it,

1558
01:13:10,603 --> 01:13:13,345
right when he gets to, like,
the crescendo of the prayer,

1559
01:13:14,738 --> 01:13:17,828
the Flir camera reacts to it

1560
01:13:17,871 --> 01:13:22,049
and starts showing, like, a
massive temperature difference,

1561
01:13:22,093 --> 01:13:23,660
like, right on cue.

1562
01:13:24,574 --> 01:13:26,227
And I remember
thinking to myself,

1563
01:13:27,185 --> 01:13:28,665
would that have happened
if I was in there?

1564
01:13:28,708 --> 01:13:30,362
Because I'm not Catholic

1565
01:13:30,406 --> 01:13:32,233
and I don't believe in the power
of St. Michael's prayer.

1566
01:13:32,277 --> 01:13:34,584
I don't-- It wouldn't mean
anything to me.

1567
01:13:35,236 --> 01:13:36,629
But it meant something to him.

1568
01:13:37,717 --> 01:13:39,110
And it meant something to Ryan,

1569
01:13:39,153 --> 01:13:40,633
and it meant something
to the owners

1570
01:13:40,677 --> 01:13:42,156
who were also devout Catholics.

1571
01:13:43,201 --> 01:13:45,290
I believe the reason
this happened

1572
01:13:45,899 --> 01:13:48,467
is because they believed
it would happen.

1573
01:13:48,511 --> 01:13:49,860
Check this out.

1574
01:13:51,949 --> 01:13:54,734
[Chip] You have no power.

1575
01:13:56,736 --> 01:13:57,998
[Ryan] What the hell was that?

1576
01:13:58,042 --> 01:13:59,260
[Chip] What was that?

1577
01:13:59,739 --> 01:14:01,001
That was interesting.

1578
01:14:01,611 --> 01:14:05,484
So, we got your attention?
How about this?

1579
01:14:05,528 --> 01:14:09,009
St. Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.

1580
01:14:09,053 --> 01:14:11,185
Be our protection
against the wickedness

1581
01:14:11,229 --> 01:14:12,926
and snares of the devil.

1582
01:14:12,970 --> 01:14:15,625
May God rebuke him,
we humbly pray.

1583
01:14:15,668 --> 01:14:18,454
And do thou,
O Prince of the Heavenly Host,

1584
01:14:18,497 --> 01:14:21,674
by the divine power of God,
cast into hell

1585
01:14:21,718 --> 01:14:23,633
Satan and all the evil spirits

1586
01:14:23,676 --> 01:14:27,724
who wander throughout the world
seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

1587
01:14:28,725 --> 01:14:30,640
How do you like that?

1588
01:14:30,683 --> 01:14:33,599
[ominous music]

1589
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:39,170
Now, the second thing
I wanted to discuss

1590
01:14:39,213 --> 01:14:41,215
is what is a ghost, right?

1591
01:14:41,259 --> 01:14:43,130
When you say,
"Do you believe in a ghost?"

1592
01:14:43,174 --> 01:14:44,828
What is that?

1593
01:14:44,871 --> 01:14:47,352
I mean, when you hear a voice
that shouldn't be there,

1594
01:14:47,395 --> 01:14:48,484
that's a ghost, right?

1595
01:14:48,527 --> 01:14:50,442
If you hear footsteps upstairs

1596
01:14:50,486 --> 01:14:53,097
and they shouldn't be coming
from anybody, that's a ghost.

1597
01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:56,143
Or if you set your car keys
down and you turn

1598
01:14:56,187 --> 01:14:57,623
and they're not there any more,

1599
01:14:57,667 --> 01:14:58,885
we say,
"Oh, that was a ghost."

1600
01:14:59,146 --> 01:15:01,018
Or if you see
a full body apparition,

1601
01:15:01,627 --> 01:15:03,673
you know,
obviously, that's a ghost.

1602
01:15:03,716 --> 01:15:06,371
When I say,
"I believe in ghosts,"

1603
01:15:07,111 --> 01:15:10,767
what I mean is,
I believe in future science.

1604
01:15:10,810 --> 01:15:14,292
I think this is all stuff that
we're going to figure out later

1605
01:15:14,335 --> 01:15:16,729
that we're just not smart enough
to understand right now.

1606
01:15:16,773 --> 01:15:19,079
I think this is
multiple dimensions

1607
01:15:19,123 --> 01:15:20,951
crossing into each other.

1608
01:15:20,994 --> 01:15:24,998
Um, I'm not even so sure that
when there's an intelligent

1609
01:15:25,042 --> 01:15:27,479
response or when there's
communication that you're even

1610
01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:28,872
talking to someone that's dead.

1611
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:32,658
I think it's just as likely

1612
01:15:33,659 --> 01:15:35,531
as you're just communicating
with someone in a different

1613
01:15:35,574 --> 01:15:37,489
dimension that's viewing
you the same way.

1614
01:15:37,533 --> 01:15:39,796
That's why I love that film,
The Others, with Nicole Kidman.

1615
01:15:39,839 --> 01:15:41,580
If you haven't seen it,
you should see it.

1616
01:15:41,624 --> 01:15:44,931
But basically the Aha moment
at the end is you find out

1617
01:15:44,975 --> 01:15:48,761
the whole time you think
that she is experiencing ghosts,

1618
01:15:48,805 --> 01:15:50,937
but then you find out
she's the ghost, you know?

1619
01:15:50,981 --> 01:15:52,635
Uh, it's just really cool.

1620
01:15:52,678 --> 01:15:55,768
But there's so much of-- of this
world that we don't know.

1621
01:15:55,812 --> 01:15:58,075
I mean, just think about
where we are for a second.

1622
01:15:58,118 --> 01:16:01,078
We're these creatures
that are on this

1623
01:16:01,731 --> 01:16:03,733
massive spinning ball
that's flying

1624
01:16:03,776 --> 01:16:06,387
through this universe
of darkness

1625
01:16:06,431 --> 01:16:09,303
and to where, we don't know.
We don't even know why--

1626
01:16:09,347 --> 01:16:10,914
You know, science can't tell us

1627
01:16:10,957 --> 01:16:12,829
where we came from
or where we go.

1628
01:16:12,872 --> 01:16:14,657
But clearly,
we came from somewhere

1629
01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:16,397
and we're going somewhere.

1630
01:16:16,441 --> 01:16:18,182
So, I think a lot of times

1631
01:16:18,225 --> 01:16:20,053
when people don't
know the answer,

1632
01:16:20,097 --> 01:16:21,577
they go straight to denial.

1633
01:16:22,316 --> 01:16:23,970
What I do know

1634
01:16:24,014 --> 01:16:26,364
is that bizarre things
are happening all the time.

1635
01:16:26,930 --> 01:16:29,280
We live in a planet
that's filled

1636
01:16:29,323 --> 01:16:32,718
with nothing but energy
going wild around us.

1637
01:16:32,762 --> 01:16:34,459
There's electricity
through everything.

1638
01:16:34,502 --> 01:16:36,635
There's all kinds of forces
we don't even understand.

1639
01:16:37,636 --> 01:16:40,508
A lot of times when these
things happen, they're scary

1640
01:16:41,118 --> 01:16:42,554
because we don't understand it.

1641
01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,643
So, when I say,
"I believe in ghosts,"

1642
01:16:44,687 --> 01:16:46,645
that's to say,
I believe in science

1643
01:16:46,689 --> 01:16:48,212
that we don't understand yet.

1644
01:16:48,255 --> 01:16:50,475
I believe in multiple
dimensions crossing,

1645
01:16:50,518 --> 01:16:53,652
I believe that space
and time are connected.

1646
01:16:53,696 --> 01:16:55,654
I believe that Einstein
had it right,

1647
01:16:55,698 --> 01:16:58,396
that there are wormholes.
I believe in all that stuff.

1648
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,660
And I think most paranormal
investigators that I know,

1649
01:17:01,704 --> 01:17:03,967
the more and more
they've studied this,

1650
01:17:04,010 --> 01:17:06,578
the more and more they start
to come to that conclusion,

1651
01:17:07,274 --> 01:17:09,842
that what we're really talking
about is string theory.

1652
01:17:09,886 --> 01:17:12,192
That's what we're experiencing.

1653
01:17:12,671 --> 01:17:14,542
And I-- I invite you
to look into that.

1654
01:17:14,586 --> 01:17:17,850
I invite you to study
string theory

1655
01:17:17,894 --> 01:17:21,158
and multiple dimensions and
some of the beliefs behind that.

1656
01:17:21,201 --> 01:17:25,031
And I think that is the closest
that I've come to

1657
01:17:25,075 --> 01:17:28,469
in regard to an explanation
as to what a ghost could be.

1658
01:17:28,948 --> 01:17:31,168
[eerie music]

1659
01:17:34,867 --> 01:17:37,217
And lastly, at the beginning
of this film,

1660
01:17:37,261 --> 01:17:41,265
I told you that I had found the
answers that I had sought out.

1661
01:17:42,048 --> 01:17:44,747
To the questions that sent me
on this wild journey

1662
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:46,009
that I've been on.

1663
01:17:46,879 --> 01:17:48,707
And it happened a couple
of years ago

1664
01:17:49,665 --> 01:17:51,449
in which it hit me
like a ton of bricks.

1665
01:17:51,971 --> 01:17:53,756
I was having a conversation
with Thomas

1666
01:17:53,799 --> 01:17:55,627
about the Sir Noface case.

1667
01:17:56,236 --> 01:17:58,195
Uh, there's this Australian case
that I did with

1668
01:17:58,238 --> 01:17:59,849
this investigator, Craig Powell.

1669
01:18:00,501 --> 01:18:02,112
And, you know,

1670
01:18:02,155 --> 01:18:04,331
Thomas was the driving force
behind it all happening.

1671
01:18:05,071 --> 01:18:08,248
And we were talking about just
how incredible the case was.

1672
01:18:08,292 --> 01:18:10,120
And it had everything, you know,

1673
01:18:10,163 --> 01:18:13,036
stunning evidence,
incredible documentation.

1674
01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:14,951
It was sanctioned
by the government.

1675
01:18:14,994 --> 01:18:16,648
I mean, it's truly incredible.

1676
01:18:17,605 --> 01:18:20,173
And we were talking about
it doesn't matter how,

1677
01:18:21,261 --> 01:18:22,567
uh, you know,
incredible the case is,

1678
01:18:22,610 --> 01:18:24,438
some people just won't

1679
01:18:24,482 --> 01:18:27,703
even give time of day or they
just refuse to accept the facts.

1680
01:18:28,704 --> 01:18:30,923
But, you know,
that never really bothered me

1681
01:18:30,967 --> 01:18:34,361
because I think that
people accept things when

1682
01:18:34,405 --> 01:18:35,885
they're ready to accept them.

1683
01:18:36,407 --> 01:18:39,410
What always bothered me is
that the scientific community,

1684
01:18:39,453 --> 01:18:41,325
they won't touch ghosts,
they just won't.

1685
01:18:41,368 --> 01:18:43,022
And they say, "Well,

1686
01:18:43,066 --> 01:18:45,068
science is about a repeatable
action that we can study

1687
01:18:45,111 --> 01:18:47,113
and there's nothing repeatable
in the paranormal

1688
01:18:47,157 --> 01:18:49,159
that's-- happens over
and over again."

1689
01:18:49,899 --> 01:18:52,162
In which my response was,
"Well, we're talking about

1690
01:18:52,205 --> 01:18:54,207
energy of living creatures

1691
01:18:54,251 --> 01:18:55,731
that were either once alive

1692
01:18:55,774 --> 01:18:57,080
or are living
in a different dimension."

1693
01:18:58,385 --> 01:19:00,039
And how can that be repeatable?

1694
01:19:00,083 --> 01:19:02,738
Meaning, my wife gets up
and goes to work every day.

1695
01:19:03,564 --> 01:19:07,525
But she's never once got up
and every single footstep

1696
01:19:07,568 --> 01:19:10,136
did it exactly the same
as she did the day before.

1697
01:19:10,180 --> 01:19:11,572
There's always variance.

1698
01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:14,750
That doesn't mean that she's not
real and she didn't go to work.

1699
01:19:15,707 --> 01:19:18,536
It just means that
there's not a repeatable action

1700
01:19:19,232 --> 01:19:20,886
to her because she's a human.

1701
01:19:20,930 --> 01:19:23,802
She never-- never does anything
the exact same way.

1702
01:19:26,022 --> 01:19:27,414
So, science will never touch it,

1703
01:19:28,459 --> 01:19:29,808
which doesn't make
any sense to me.

1704
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:35,553
But then something hit me hard.

1705
01:19:35,596 --> 01:19:37,294
And again, like a ton of bricks.

1706
01:19:37,903 --> 01:19:40,776
I started thinking
about the fact that

1707
01:19:40,819 --> 01:19:43,256
over all these years,
everything you just watched,

1708
01:19:43,300 --> 01:19:45,171
everything that I've filmed,

1709
01:19:45,215 --> 01:19:48,348
everything I've ever seen from
other investigators who film,

1710
01:19:49,436 --> 01:19:51,961
there's never been
one piece of footage

1711
01:19:52,657 --> 01:19:56,704
that can prove beyond
a shadow of a doubt

1712
01:19:58,097 --> 01:20:01,753
to the scientific community or
otherwise that ghosts are real.

1713
01:20:02,449 --> 01:20:03,755
It's never happened.

1714
01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:07,280
There's always been
just enough doubt

1715
01:20:07,324 --> 01:20:10,457
in everything, or just enough
of a possibility,

1716
01:20:10,501 --> 01:20:12,155
even if it's like
a 1% chance

1717
01:20:12,198 --> 01:20:15,506
that this could have happened
to make this happen.

1718
01:20:15,549 --> 01:20:17,682
You know, it just seems
like, you know, the--

1719
01:20:17,725 --> 01:20:19,858
the object is just out of frame

1720
01:20:19,902 --> 01:20:23,296
or it's just-- just blurry
enough where it's not clear.

1721
01:20:23,340 --> 01:20:27,387
The EVP has just enough static
where it's not clear.

1722
01:20:27,431 --> 01:20:29,041
And then suddenly
it just hit me.

1723
01:20:29,085 --> 01:20:30,738
That's the consistency...

1724
01:20:33,916 --> 01:20:35,743
in all pieces of evidence,

1725
01:20:36,309 --> 01:20:38,137
in everything anybody
has ever captured.

1726
01:20:38,181 --> 01:20:39,660
That's the consistency.

1727
01:20:39,704 --> 01:20:42,185
There's always just enough
reason for doubt.

1728
01:20:44,796 --> 01:20:46,145
And the reason for that

1729
01:20:47,407 --> 01:20:49,670
is because if we can prove
the existence of ghosts,

1730
01:20:49,714 --> 01:20:53,109
we can prove
there's an other side.

1731
01:20:53,761 --> 01:20:55,546
We can prove
there's an other side.

1732
01:20:57,156 --> 01:20:58,592
There would be
no need for faith.

1733
01:20:58,636 --> 01:21:00,725
There would be
no need for faith.

1734
01:21:00,768 --> 01:21:04,294
And the fact that we don't know
what comes after we die,

1735
01:21:04,337 --> 01:21:06,122
that's what gives
this life value.

1736
01:21:08,951 --> 01:21:11,388
That's what gives
this life value.

1737
01:21:12,737 --> 01:21:14,695
That's what makes it where
we want to be a good person.

1738
01:21:14,739 --> 01:21:16,175
We want to live a good life.

1739
01:21:16,219 --> 01:21:17,960
Because if there's
something else coming,

1740
01:21:18,003 --> 01:21:19,178
we want to take part in it.

1741
01:21:19,222 --> 01:21:21,006
We don't want to be,

1742
01:21:21,050 --> 01:21:23,443
you know, either left behind
or sent to hell or whatever,

1743
01:21:23,487 --> 01:21:24,967
you know, your beliefs are.

1744
01:21:27,230 --> 01:21:30,494
I will never capture
the piece of evidence

1745
01:21:30,537 --> 01:21:32,670
that proves
the existence of ghosts,

1746
01:21:33,540 --> 01:21:34,628
because if I did,

1747
01:21:36,630 --> 01:21:39,590
there would be
no need for faith.

1748
01:21:42,506 --> 01:21:44,073
And that's the answer I came to.

1749
01:21:44,769 --> 01:21:46,945
So now when I ghost hunt,
I do it for fun.

1750
01:21:46,989 --> 01:21:49,905
I take people's so
they have their own experiences.

1751
01:21:49,948 --> 01:21:54,170
And through the ghost hunting,
I've met incredible people.

1752
01:21:54,648 --> 01:21:56,346
The experiences you have,

1753
01:21:56,389 --> 01:21:58,870
you are never closer
to the other side

1754
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:00,828
than when you're with
somebody and you have

1755
01:22:00,872 --> 01:22:02,004
one of these experiences.

1756
01:22:03,048 --> 01:22:04,528
So, I urge you all,

1757
01:22:07,183 --> 01:22:08,271
go find your answers,

1758
01:22:09,707 --> 01:22:10,795
start your journey.

1759
01:22:20,413 --> 01:22:21,762
Because it's a special journey.

1760
01:22:25,766 --> 01:22:26,854
Peace.

1761
01:22:27,943 --> 01:22:31,947
[dark rock music]

1762
01:22:39,432 --> 01:22:44,046
♪ The table parts our stares,
separates our glares ♪

1763
01:22:44,089 --> 01:22:46,962
♪ How did we concede

1764
01:22:47,005 --> 01:22:49,790
♪ And are we this naive?

1765
01:22:49,834 --> 01:22:52,402
♪ A life that was
once was ours ♪

1766
01:22:52,445 --> 01:22:55,057
♪ Slippin' through our claws

1767
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:57,624
♪ The beast in my disease

1768
01:22:57,668 --> 01:23:00,366
♪ Has overtaken me

1769
01:23:00,410 --> 01:23:05,328
♪ How has this now gone
suddenly so wrong ♪

1770
01:23:05,371 --> 01:23:07,983
♪ I am on my knees

1771
01:23:08,026 --> 01:23:10,986
♪ But I know better

1772
01:23:11,029 --> 01:23:13,031
♪ This is not my life...