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Hi, I'm Corey Anderson.

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I fight for the UFC.

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Frankie Edgar, former UFC lightweight champion.

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Hey, it's Todd Frazier of the New York Mets,

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and I'm pumped to see this documentary.

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And I'm super ecstatic about my boy, Big Nick.

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I think it's going to be a super inspirational,

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He's going the distance.

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This is his story.

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This is his "Rocky story", man. Going the distance.

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one of those just dig deep type stories.

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And getting his big fight coming up.

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I'm proud of him, and he's going to do awesome.

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My message to Nick is just keep fighting

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for what you fighting, and man,

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when you step in our ring, do what you got to do.

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Get it done.

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Do more than go to distance.

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Get your hand raised.

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So we talking an amateur fighter

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going up against a pro fighter.

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How many amateur fights did this amateur fighter have?

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He had none?

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Zero fights?

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It doesn't matter if you're the CEO of Google.

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You didn't start at you don't start at the CEO.

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You start you go to college, you do an internship.

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There's a process. Yeah.

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And it would really be unintelligent to try to

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skip the process, in my opinion, because that fight,

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you could fight a guy 0 and 10.

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That means that guy's got ten professional fights.

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You have none.

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That ten times that guy's been laced up,

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wrapped up, and made that scary ringwalk.

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You've never done that. Ten times

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that guy's had guys punch him in

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his face to try to hurt him.

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Not for trophies and metals, but for

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meat and potatoes to put food on his table.

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Yeah. That's serious business.

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When you fight a guy that's

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10 and 0, he's at jeopardy,

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or a guy that's been knocked out two times

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before, he's in jeopardy of losing his job.

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He might be an auto mechanic.

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He might work in a factory.

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He might make an extra $2,000 every few months.

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So if he, imagine you're a minimum wage guy,

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you're making extra ten grand a year boxing.

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You can't afford to lose too many fights,

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or they won't let you fight anymore.

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So he's fighting for his life.

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So it's no joke.

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He could be a "ham and egg-er".

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He could be a tomato can.

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He's still a man out there with gloves on.

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And there's been countless times when guys have

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set out to start their career with easy

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fights and they've gotten themselves knocked out.

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You've already been in the world champions.

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It's not about whether you can take a punch.

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I'll vouch for you.

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You could take a punch.

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Not about that.

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Can you throw a punch? I'll vouch for you.

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You could throw a punch.

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Can't handle the pressure.

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You don't know who you are until you're in the ring.

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You find out the real type of person you are under

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the pressure of the ring...

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that's what remains to be seen.

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Definitely a gracious quest.

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And the fact that you're willing to kind of

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put yourself out there to spread awareness and

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maybe put yourself in harm's way

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just to push the issue of MS

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I think is just a valiant thing to do.

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And I got all respect for you, obviously.

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The fact that you could have chose probably numerous different

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ways to pursue this or to get the word

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out about MS, but you chose fighting.

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My name is Nicholas Anthony Zarrillo.

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I'm from Jersey.

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Currently living in Florida.

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I got to thank Paulie for getting in there

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and helping me raise awareness

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for Multiple Sclerosis. It's really big.

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Me alone, trying to raise awareness, it's just me.

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But someone like Paulie, its a big deal.

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Two time champ, that's just going to help us

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help this documentary, and it's just going to help

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us so much more than I ever could have.

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I own my own business, make costumes,

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like stuff like this,

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pirate hat.

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Guy Laieta,

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Boxing trainer, World Famous 5th Street gym.

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Paulie Malignaggi, who we work with,

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was nice enough to spar with Nick.

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I've known Nick for a couple of

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months, since he began his journey here.

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We're all really proud of him and impressed with him.

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So we've done everything we can to help

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him show how you can beat this illness.

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And today's sparred with a two time world

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champ, Paulie Malignaggi, and he held his own.

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He learned that boxing is a

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little harder against a World Champ.

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It's usually a lot busier around Halloween time, but

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I don't know, I guess people don't have anywhere to go

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or too scared to go out, given the current situation.

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13 years, doing something that you kind of fell into

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I mean, you know, how could you feel about it?

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I work two times a day,

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usually in the morning, then at night. I need to

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take a break because I have a condition.

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So I like to call it I call it "brain breaks" because

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at a certain point of in the day, I kind of get

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mentally exhausted a lot to where it's like,

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decision making, goes out the window.

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My name is Platinum Mike Perry.

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My name is Michael Perry.

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I have an alias of Platinum Mike Perry.

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That's my fighting personality.

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That is my persona.

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That is my idea of what life should be like

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as an aggressive athlete, fighter, martial artist, a winner.

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I've had nine UFC fights.

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Both of those attacks were in your left eye, right?

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Or did you have one each?

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Yeah, they were in both.

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It was stronger on the left.

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Gotta started training like that movie that came out

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where they were all wearing blindfolds and shit.

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In case it gets too bad, when

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you get older, you'd be ready.

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I'm just playing, try to make light of the bad.

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I didn't really know much

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about Multiple Sclerosis at all.

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You guys need to read more about it.

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People need help out there.

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It's affecting people's lives in a negative way.

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We got to get rid of all negativity in 2019.

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We're going forward out here.

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You had a fair amount of enhancing lesions, the active ones.

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The last time before we

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started the Copaxone and everything.

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So that was kind of the that was some of the concern.

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I mean, of course you don't want anything new,

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but you especially don't want new active

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ones because if there's more activity, then that

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might mean copaxone is not holding it so.

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Let me just look real quick.

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Could you tell me something about Multiple Sclerosis?

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This is the one that you just got from Simon Med.

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So this is the post.

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So this is after they inject the dye.

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This is the active lesions. The goal is...

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So that where you would see them glow.

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Yes. So those are the few, your goal is

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to have actually have zero of those at all.

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Is it a deficiency with the

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spine or the bones or something?

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So you've got a little glow here.

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You've got one here.

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That's the same one getting a little bigger there.

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You've got one over here.

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You have multiple.

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So there were quite a few that were active. One here.

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This is a bigger one that they measured.

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That's the same one.

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That's another one.

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So one there curling around.

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Could you tell from the location

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what effects what?

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Not always. Sometimes if they're in the back, they

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can affect the balance a little more.

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Usually like when you first got attacked, they did

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your optic nerves because they specifically did an MRI the

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optic nerve and they didn't see anything.

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But it could have been close enough that it still

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when it swelled, that it caused the impairment in the vision

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you had in the left eye.

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Okay, Multiple Sclerosis, meaning, so like

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when you get hit, it could be way worse?

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You may have had a couple of new things.

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Like the first couple of months

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Copaxone starts gearing up to work.

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It takes a little while for it to start working.

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So those first couple of months you can have a

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one or two new lesions pop up, but then at

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that point, after they should significantly go down.

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Do you pass out sometimes?

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Do you have seizures or not seizures per se?

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You look like a healthy guy.

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You may look like you take care of yourself, young.

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It can affect you later as you get older?

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This is the original one.

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So that's the one you had originally,

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which was you had one there.

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These are not the active ones though.

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That's just scarring?

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That's just the scars over the years.

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You know what I mean?

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I've been there, I've done it, I've seen it.

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The only thing I ain't had is multiple sclerosis.

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Maybe you hit a "muthafucka",

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that's that new shit

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you say in 2019, bitch I'm a hit you give you

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that multiple sclerosis, you're going be in this bitch,

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convulsions.

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I mean, I've tried to change careers several

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times over the years and had some success,

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but I always end up costumes.

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I mean, I always felt like my life needed some

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sense of accomplishment,

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anything, anything to get out of this.

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But it hasn't always been like nothing going on.

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I did have one great accomplishment,

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to me.

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Which is crazy, considering it's something

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that you fear your whole life.

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My little artist.

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My "rosebud".

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That's a long story, though.

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Right now I'm just supposed to be talking about my job.

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Vision is still doing okay? -Yeah. Good. Good.

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So it probably was good.

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I mean, I kind of could tell from the second we

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met that you didn't have a whole lot of subcu tissue.

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That Copyxone wasn't going to be a long term

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because you just don't have any fat to inject.

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So it kind of went along.

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And then the MRI sort of validated when there

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was a new active lesion with the MRI so.

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Any other questions or concerns?

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There's no concern with like, me

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breastfeeding or being pregnant with around

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him with the Tecfidera, right? -No. Okay. -Yeah.

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Not at all. And then if we wanted

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to conceive again? -Perfectly okay.

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Yeah, Tecfidera is perfectly fine.

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So when are you due?

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Eight days. Oh, my goodness! -Yeah.

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Very exciting.

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Very exciting.

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Squeeze for me.

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Can you go tighter? Can you go tighter? Yes.

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He doesn't want to hurt you.

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Got to know they're working.

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Then refresh me,

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Are you the boxer? Yes.

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How's that going? Its going good.

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Good. Did you get hit?

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I had the head gear on. -Okay.

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They noticed something on the MRI, like there

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might have been a little hit or something.

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I think it was on your left side.

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All that was from a while ago. -High school. -They noticed it.

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Push down. Good.

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And then lift up.

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Yeah, they did.

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They saw it right there. Yeah.

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That's from high school.

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He got cold cocked.

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That's pretty intense.

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They see enough of it down there

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that they know something was going on.

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As soon as I saw that, I

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thought, oh, yeah, hes my boxer.

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He had like the orbital fracture,

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I guess, but -Must have.

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It was healed.

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Yeah.

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It didn't look new.

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No symptoms or anything.

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That was someone just cold cocked him out of blue.

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Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Dr. Kumar. So,

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Dr. Kumar is the nuero radiologist at Simon Med.

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So he's very meticulous in what he's looking at.

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Oh, yeah.

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We were going to ask about stem cell.

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Like harvesting, I guess.

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Well, for when I give birth.

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Taking the blood from the placenta and putting it in him.

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So you don't really have to go to that extreme.

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Okay. Only because I think you have to

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pay to have your blood. -Yeah, I was just wondering.

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retrieved and stored and all that.

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What they're eventually using is patient's own blood.

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Okay.

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So they would take your blood,

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the baby cells, the stem cells.

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Stem means the brand new cells that are just being

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formed before they become MS cells to attack.

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So they take those out, then

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they suppress your immune system.

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And then those baby cells are

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repopulating as normal cells outside.

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Then they put your own cells right back in, so

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you don't need to worry about somebody else's blood.

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And then basically it reverses, stops the MS.

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So there's no more progression, no more MS. Yeah.

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The key is though, the ideal person would be somebody

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like him because you're healthy and doing well.

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So I've also got people that come in

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in wheelchairs and they want stem cells and

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I have to say, well, unfortunately, it'll stop things

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where they are, but it doesn't repair, so it doesn't

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mean you can walk again, kind of thing.

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So the earlier you get them, really, the better.

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Feels like I can't even breathe just thinking about it.

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She's not even one yet. You know?

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Well, just remember, you got family and

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you have family that's been through it.

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Reach out.

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We were a family.

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We weren't perfect.

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We went through hard times just like everyone else.

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They went overseas to seek medical treatment

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and I couldn't go.

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My finances were declining.

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I couldn't leave my busiest season.

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I just couldn't.

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Then something happened over there.

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I don't know what, or who.

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Whatever it was, when my family came back,

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we were no longer a family.

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I should have went, but I chose my job.

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I fucked up.

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I miss Jocelyn I get to see pictures of her.

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That's how I get to see her grow up.

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Everyday struggles that any family man would have

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with kids and a wife, I think just whatever it

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may be, just house issues, financial issues, career issues, and

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I've had ups and downs in my career.

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And I been down some times where I think it's hard

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to climb back or in the stress of just everything

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on top of that, I think definitely rounds

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you and makes you a little tougher.

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Like you said.

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I'm a big believer in having a good backbone.

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And that starts with family.

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Whether it's a wife, whether it's your

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father, your mother, brother, sister, cousin.

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Talk to them, get words of wisdom every day,

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try to enjoy life as much

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as you can because it's real short.

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You know how much I love boxing, right? Yeah.

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Maybe if I actually get in the ring fight and I

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can do something with it, I can make some waves.

355
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If I'm finally good at something,

356
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maybe I can win them back that way?

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Nick that was a real fight with

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a real, real good pro fighter.

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Very high level stuff, great survival.

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We go three, five minute rounds in boxing

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or three 3's or four 3's in boxing.

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I give him making it to a decision.

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I'll say he could make it to a decision with me

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four rounds in boxing.

365
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I don't know, about six.

366
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Yeah, I get that momentum I'm going forward.

367
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You going back a lot.

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You got to make me step back.

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If somebody chasing you down like that, you

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got to give them reason to be scared.

371
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Give them something to be scared of.

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Thing was, I was tricking you a lot, too.

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You thought you was getting

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away with just touching me.

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Yes. -But I do that, and it goes right by, and

376
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I stay in place or even move a little closer.

377
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That's a big move that I do to high level guys.

378
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I make them miss by just an inch then step in.

379
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Bang. Bang.

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You got to try to learn how to get points, hit

381
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and not get hit while not using too much energy.

382
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That's something you can work on.

383
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Comfortable right there while not using no energy.

384
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The better you get, the less energy

385
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you use, the more.

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You see what feints work, you know?

387
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That good left hook off my right.

388
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That was there.

389
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Did I have any power? Was anything there?

390
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No, you didn't.

391
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You never committed to nothing.

392
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Almost like a fear, maybe, or not wanting to disrespect me

393
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in the cage, in the gym because I'm a pro.

394
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You have respect for a professional

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who's gone to the pro level.

396
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I can get into the disrespect a little more and

397
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be like, okay, I got to hit this "muthafuka".

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He's killing me!

399
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You gonna count? You gotta count!

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You got up in 10.

401
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If somebody chasing you down like that,

402
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You gotta give them reason to be scared.

403
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It's up to him.

404
00:23:05,458 --> 00:23:06,916
Do you want to keep going?

405
00:23:08,416 --> 00:23:09,541
He said, you know what?

406
00:23:09,541 --> 00:23:13,083
When the video started, he asked me, one of the

407
00:23:13,083 --> 00:23:18,416
questions was, do I think a fighter, an amateur, can

408
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get in with a pro? A guy with no experience

409
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get in with a guy with experience?

410
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I said it depends. I had to see.

411
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I mean, he's lasting a little bit with me. He's moving.

412
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He's got some good ideas about basic survival instinct.

413
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When you get to the point when it's

414
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like, okay, do I have to keep going?

415
00:23:38,541 --> 00:23:41,791
I have a choice to get out and stop?

416
00:23:42,833 --> 00:23:45,791
A guy without the experience going to want to get out.

417
00:23:54,458 --> 00:23:55,791
You did fine.

418
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Don't think too much about it.

419
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:59,375
Don't think too much into it.

420
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Just keep going in, keep drilling.

421
00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:05,458
You get better at being calmer in dangerous situations.

422
00:24:10,833 --> 00:24:14,208
We're talking about a game of fucking hurting people.

423
00:24:14,208 --> 00:24:14,791
Yeah.

424
00:24:14,791 --> 00:24:17,666
So I was nice because you could

425
00:24:17,666 --> 00:24:21,000
say, "okay, all right, that's enough".

426
00:24:21,250 --> 00:24:25,458
And as a professional, we're taught to turn off,

427
00:24:25,458 --> 00:24:28,291
shut down. Ref say something,

428
00:24:28,291 --> 00:24:31,166
We act like we got in trouble. You know what I mean?

429
00:24:31,166 --> 00:24:33,416
That's how we're taught. But you say on,

430
00:24:33,416 --> 00:24:36,041
and the level keeps gradually going up.

431
00:24:36,041 --> 00:24:40,375
We we keep going up until someone wins.

432
00:24:51,208 --> 00:24:52,333
You're very good, man.

433
00:24:52,333 --> 00:24:54,291
I'm sorry I had to turn it up on you, but you good.

434
00:24:54,291 --> 00:24:55,291
Hey, It needed to happen.

435
00:24:55,333 --> 00:24:57,458
You want to go on camera with a pro fighter?

436
00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:59,041
He going to do that every time.

437
00:24:59,041 --> 00:25:02,291
He going to try to make himself look better than you.

438
00:25:03,166 --> 00:25:05,458
He took a risk tonight. He did good, too.

439
00:25:05,458 --> 00:25:06,708
He tried softening me up with

440
00:25:06,708 --> 00:25:09,166
that Multiple Sclerosis story. That shit ain't work.

441
00:25:09,166 --> 00:25:11,791
Fuck that, I'm a hit yo ass!

442
00:25:12,708 --> 00:25:14,166
So how do I compare to someone

443
00:25:14,166 --> 00:25:16,166
else who doesn't have that?

444
00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:17,625
You did great. You did fantastic?

445
00:25:17,625 --> 00:25:19,625
Should I hang them up? Is what I'm asking.

446
00:25:19,625 --> 00:25:23,416
No no. Remember how I was saying that I was struggling

447
00:25:23,416 --> 00:25:27,208
where I believed I was something special in this?

448
00:25:27,208 --> 00:25:29,500
And then it wasn't going the way I thought.

449
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:30,875
But it could just be a little difference.

450
00:25:30,875 --> 00:25:32,333
I still am something special in this.

451
00:25:32,333 --> 00:25:34,375
I still have a ton of followers and believers.

452
00:25:34,375 --> 00:25:37,291
I still have a bunch of people who support me and

453
00:25:37,291 --> 00:25:39,458
a bunch of people who want me to win, some people

454
00:25:39,458 --> 00:25:42,333
who need me to win, some people who are praying for

455
00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:47,250
me, some people who are hating on me, and that's enough.

456
00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:49,500
Me being able to wake up in the morning and

457
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breathe is enough for me to go get it and

458
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go do it, because I love to do it.

459
00:25:52,958 --> 00:25:54,750
You love to do it, and get mad at

460
00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:57,000
guys like me who start going a little crazy,

461
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,958
but it's okay because we in here training.

462
00:25:58,958 --> 00:26:00,583
That's what training is about.

463
00:26:00,583 --> 00:26:02,875
I take you to a new level, a new height.

464
00:26:02,875 --> 00:26:06,916
Then you say, "Alright, now I can see".

465
00:26:07,291 --> 00:26:09,250
But you were just in there with a crazy "muthafucka".

466
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You keep working hard.

467
00:26:10,958 --> 00:26:12,166
I hope you keep understanding.

468
00:26:12,166 --> 00:26:13,708
You're a great person inside, and

469
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I always talk about your heart.

470
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You have a great heart, and

471
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you're there to help others.

472
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And this is just a starting

473
00:26:18,708 --> 00:26:20,583
point for you and your journey.

474
00:26:20,583 --> 00:26:23,625
And I'm excited that I'm here to talk about it

475
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:27,291
with you, because hopefully, my words, I can help somebody,

476
00:26:27,291 --> 00:26:28,625
too, along the way with what you're doing.

477
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So keep focusing.

478
00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:34,291
And those times where it's not a good day, think

479
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back all the good times you had in the past

480
00:26:35,875 --> 00:26:37,500
and the friends that love you and family that love

481
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:38,875
you, and I think you'd be all right.

482
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,500
What you bring to the table and what

483
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:41,833
all my clients and all our

484
00:27:41,833 --> 00:27:43,625
fighters bring or they're not welcome

485
00:27:43,625 --> 00:27:45,916
is their blood, sweat, and tears, their effort.

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00:27:45,916 --> 00:27:47,708
And if you have some kind of condition that requires you

487
00:27:47,708 --> 00:27:50,958
to put forth more blood, sweat, and tears, then for me,

488
00:27:50,958 --> 00:27:53,416
that means you're spending more money at the gym.

489
00:27:53,416 --> 00:27:57,166
That's more that's more currency to me.

490
00:27:57,166 --> 00:27:59,541
So to me, you deserve then more

491
00:27:59,541 --> 00:28:03,250
attention, more effort, more welcome, more everything.

492
00:28:06,916 --> 00:28:12,083
So as a coach to multiple champions, what would

493
00:28:12,083 --> 00:28:15,541
have been or what would be your path for

494
00:28:15,541 --> 00:28:18,083
me to take as far as a game plan?

495
00:28:18,791 --> 00:28:21,041
Continue to be who you are.

496
00:28:22,166 --> 00:28:23,958
Your conditioning is always superb, so

497
00:28:23,958 --> 00:28:25,125
that really puts you an advantage.

498
00:28:25,125 --> 00:28:28,083
I mean, if you and another fighter step in the ring,

499
00:28:28,083 --> 00:28:30,250
and the first round, you're both going 80 miles an hour,

500
00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:34,500
for example, and you find a lot of fighters that in

501
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,250
the second round, they start going 70, and

502
00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:39,833
then the third round, they go 50.

503
00:28:39,833 --> 00:28:41,791
Now, the fourth round, they're going 40.

504
00:28:41,791 --> 00:28:43,583
Your conditioning will allow you to go

505
00:28:43,583 --> 00:28:45,166
80 miles an hour all the way through.

506
00:28:45,708 --> 00:28:49,666
So with all fighters, matchmaking is an art.

507
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,625
These world champions today,

508
00:28:52,625 --> 00:28:54,000
Go look back and look at their records.

509
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,708
See what they fought in the beginning.

510
00:28:55,708 --> 00:28:57,875
All the world champions. You can look at

511
00:28:57,875 --> 00:29:00,000
the Floyd Mayweather's of the world.

512
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Look at Canelo.

513
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,125
Canelo is making $36 million a fight.

514
00:29:03,125 --> 00:29:04,291
He's the most famous fighter in the world.

515
00:29:04,291 --> 00:29:07,041
Look who he fought his first four fights.

516
00:29:07,291 --> 00:29:09,625
So we wouldn't have you matched up

517
00:29:09,625 --> 00:29:11,750
any tougher than Canelo was.

518
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,708
This guy was the Mexican prodigy.

519
00:29:14,708 --> 00:29:15,791
They've groomed to become the

520
00:29:15,791 --> 00:29:17,041
biggest star in the world.

521
00:29:17,041 --> 00:29:19,750
So you have to be careful with who you fight.

522
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:22,083
You have to learn from each fight, and then

523
00:29:22,083 --> 00:29:27,791
that kind of sets the map for going forward.

524
00:29:28,291 --> 00:29:30,625
We reevaluate after every fight and see

525
00:29:30,625 --> 00:29:32,250
where you're at and go from there.

526
00:29:32,583 --> 00:29:36,333
So back in 2017, when I

527
00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:39,166
sparred with Algieri, you remember that? -Yeah.

528
00:29:39,791 --> 00:29:43,041
At the end, I talked with him and I said that I

529
00:29:43,041 --> 00:29:49,833
had this gameplan that I wanted to do. Because I didn't

530
00:29:49,833 --> 00:29:53,541
know what the disease would do as far as having a relapse.

531
00:29:55,333 --> 00:29:58,000
And then if I would lose something from that

532
00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:04,708
if I would lose something from that.

533
00:30:04,708 --> 00:30:06,666
Before you could probably do whatever

534
00:30:06,666 --> 00:30:08,250
you wanted, as long as you wanted,

535
00:30:08,250 --> 00:30:10,291
for as many hours as you needed.

536
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:12,416
Ever since I was a kid,

537
00:30:12,416 --> 00:30:15,125
I had a fear of blindness.

538
00:30:16,041 --> 00:30:18,875
See my grandfather Pop-pop Mata,

539
00:30:19,541 --> 00:30:21,875
he was blind, and all my

540
00:30:21,875 --> 00:30:24,791
memories with him, he was blind.

541
00:30:25,708 --> 00:30:29,666
When my vision seemed like it was deteriorating,

542
00:30:30,166 --> 00:30:33,125
I thought I was the unlucky one to be next.

543
00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:36,500
After a couple of months,

544
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:39,750
my sight miraculously cleared up,

545
00:30:40,541 --> 00:30:43,750
turned out to be a symptom of the MS.

546
00:30:45,416 --> 00:30:50,708
Medications keep the disease at bay, but now

547
00:30:50,708 --> 00:30:55,000
I wait anxiously for my next relapse.

548
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:58,541
And now you're half a second slow.

549
00:30:59,250 --> 00:31:05,041
But I pray that it doesn't happen any time soon.

550
00:31:19,708 --> 00:31:21,833
So I already, I put in my mind that

551
00:31:21,833 --> 00:31:23,750
I needed to do something that was going

552
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:27,250
to almost, I guess, put a "nitrous oxide boost"

553
00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:31,041
on getting to the end of this documentary.

554
00:31:31,583 --> 00:31:35,916
So I told him that I want to get as many

555
00:31:36,875 --> 00:31:40,250
name fighters, champions, involved in the project.

556
00:31:40,875 --> 00:31:43,500
This way there would be enough prestige around

557
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:47,500
it to where someone with a name would

558
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:52,083
want to be the debut fight, almost mirroring

559
00:31:52,083 --> 00:31:55,291
a "Rocky, Apollo Creed" type situation.

560
00:31:55,291 --> 00:31:56,875
So that was my original gameplan.

561
00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:58,666
Rocky had 40 fights before that fight.

562
00:31:58,666 --> 00:32:01,416
Wasn't his first fight. -Yes. Keep that in mind. -I do.

563
00:32:01,416 --> 00:32:02,083
Okay.

564
00:32:02,083 --> 00:32:03,375
What's your thoughts on that plan?

565
00:32:03,375 --> 00:32:05,750
I think it's terrible. -It's a terrible plan right? Yeah.

566
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,541
It's not fair to you. It's not fair to them.

567
00:32:08,541 --> 00:32:09,750
It's not fair to the fans.

568
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:11,833
I mean, nobody does that their first fight.

569
00:32:12,583 --> 00:32:14,166
This is just my opinion.

570
00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:17,041
In my opinion, you set up the way as if

571
00:32:17,041 --> 00:32:19,500
you were trying to become the world champion one day.

572
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:21,375
You set up a real fight with a real guy at the

573
00:32:21,375 --> 00:32:24,083
real level of the fight that you should be fighting at.

574
00:32:25,041 --> 00:32:27,375
And beat that guy just like

575
00:32:28,666 --> 00:32:31,625
Just like Evander Holyfield had to do.

576
00:32:31,625 --> 00:32:33,583
Just like Chris Algieri had to.

577
00:32:33,583 --> 00:32:35,333
Go look at Chris Algieri's first couple fights.

578
00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:36,875
And he's coming from, He was a

579
00:32:36,875 --> 00:32:38,625
kickboxing world champion, if I'm not mistaken.

580
00:32:38,625 --> 00:32:41,000
Yeah. And I promise you he didn't

581
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,625
fight for a world title for his 1st fight.

582
00:32:42,625 --> 00:32:44,333
He didn't fight a famous guy for his 1st fight.

583
00:32:44,333 --> 00:32:46,291
And Chris a great fighter and a tough guy.

584
00:32:48,583 --> 00:32:50,250
Thud!

585
00:32:50,291 --> 00:32:52,291
Like when I'm not in the gym, I'm always

586
00:32:52,666 --> 00:32:55,208
working on something for the documentary. -Sure.

587
00:32:55,875 --> 00:32:58,125
And that's what I wanted to show you here.

588
00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,208
The story is not going to be as strong if

589
00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,666
I find someone that is going to lay down.

590
00:33:17,666 --> 00:33:21,583
I want to find someone who has a belt or

591
00:33:22,083 --> 00:33:24,625
had a belt, because that's the real life "Rocky" story.

592
00:33:24,625 --> 00:33:26,208
He fought Apollo Creed.

593
00:33:26,208 --> 00:33:27,500
He was a champion.

594
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:28,791
I know that I'm never going to fight

595
00:33:28,791 --> 00:33:30,375
an actual champion. That'd be like,

596
00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:32,583
you can't, number one contenders can't.

597
00:33:32,583 --> 00:33:34,791
I don't know, you're good. You go in there and

598
00:33:34,791 --> 00:33:37,791
point fight your way. I mean, points are a real thing.

599
00:33:37,791 --> 00:33:40,166
You're fast as lightning. -Appreciate that.

600
00:33:40,166 --> 00:33:41,750
You had great points on me last time.

601
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:43,625
You know what I'm saying? You was moving so.

602
00:33:43,625 --> 00:33:46,291
Like just having a former World Champ

603
00:33:46,291 --> 00:33:50,541
or a former National Champion or a former

604
00:33:50,541 --> 00:33:54,875
International champion, it's sad to say, but there's

605
00:33:54,875 --> 00:33:57,208
champions out there with those kind of belts that

606
00:33:57,208 --> 00:33:59,375
the public didn't even know, right?

607
00:33:59,375 --> 00:34:01,666
Like, there's some guys out there that I meet

608
00:34:01,666 --> 00:34:04,250
There's people without the belts that they don't even know.

609
00:34:08,375 --> 00:34:11,041
Reach is the most important thing for me.

610
00:34:11,666 --> 00:34:15,875
Getting the most people to actually see the project.

611
00:34:15,875 --> 00:34:17,041
That's the most important thing.

612
00:34:17,041 --> 00:34:19,541
Because with this disease, it's unknown.

613
00:34:19,541 --> 00:34:22,291
And the more people that get to know about it,

614
00:34:22,291 --> 00:34:24,416
the more chance that maybe there can be a cure

615
00:34:24,416 --> 00:34:26,250
or a better treatment or something like that.

616
00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:28,333
So that's the job that I want to do.

617
00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:30,625
And I feel that if I were to have them set

618
00:34:30,625 --> 00:34:36,083
me up with a guy that's easy to beat, that people

619
00:34:36,083 --> 00:34:40,666
don't know about, I feel like it's almost like not wasted,

620
00:34:40,666 --> 00:34:45,583
but the story, it's like that phrase where if a tree

621
00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:47,833
falls in the middle of the woods, does anyone hear it?

622
00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:53,125
Yeah but. It's almost like that.

623
00:34:53,125 --> 00:34:55,583
But that tree does fall you know what I'm saying?

624
00:34:55,583 --> 00:34:56,666
It does.

625
00:34:56,666 --> 00:35:02,000
So it's it's like, brother, the name that you

626
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
fight against isn't going to be what matters.

627
00:35:05,666 --> 00:35:08,875
It's going to be the challenge itself.

628
00:35:08,875 --> 00:35:10,166
Yeah, that's correct.

629
00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:12,208
The challenge will be real as long as another

630
00:35:12,208 --> 00:35:15,916
man signs that line and doesn't mean to fall

631
00:35:15,916 --> 00:35:19,375
on purpose, that's then you have a challenge.

632
00:35:21,166 --> 00:35:22,208
What's your weight?

633
00:35:22,208 --> 00:35:24,083
Right now, I'm about 167.

634
00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:32,125
It doesn't matter, though, the challenge itself.

635
00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:35,333
So that's all that matters is if

636
00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:37,083
you want to fucking do it right.

637
00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:38,458
But here's what I'm here's what I'm

638
00:35:38,458 --> 00:35:40,875
trying to get trying to get at. -Yeah.

639
00:35:45,166 --> 00:35:49,291
When you go to the movies, right, and you watch

640
00:35:49,291 --> 00:35:51,291
an entire movie, you sit down and you watch an entire

641
00:35:51,291 --> 00:35:54,208
movie, what do you remember from watching that movie?

642
00:35:54,208 --> 00:35:57,625
You remember the character, right?

643
00:35:57,708 --> 00:35:59,375
That's the number one thing you remember.

644
00:35:59,375 --> 00:36:01,208
Let's say, Pirates of the Caribbean?

645
00:36:01,208 --> 00:36:03,208
The first thing that comes to mind is Jack Sparrow.

646
00:36:03,208 --> 00:36:05,583
Johnny Depp. Right. It's the character.

647
00:36:05,583 --> 00:36:07,875
And as a filmmaker, because that's what I

648
00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:11,291
was before doing all this stuff, is, it's so strong

649
00:36:11,291 --> 00:36:13,833
to have strong character, because that's what's

650
00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:16,541
going to make people remember the story outside.

651
00:36:16,583 --> 00:36:18,041
When they leave, they're going

652
00:36:18,041 --> 00:36:19,541
to think about "remember that. Oh, yeah".

653
00:36:19,541 --> 00:36:22,375
"Well, it was about this guy with multiple scolosis".

654
00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:26,083
So characters is so important to me, and

655
00:36:26,083 --> 00:36:29,833
the number, I'm trying to focus my mind here.

656
00:36:29,833 --> 00:36:31,375
My mind is all over the place.

657
00:36:32,125 --> 00:36:36,166
The reason why I'm here with you today is because

658
00:36:36,166 --> 00:36:41,750
I feel like this is, what I wanted to do,

659
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:45,708
was I wanted to create a real life "Rocky" story.

660
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:50,666
Everyone knows a Rocky story needs an Apollo Creed.

661
00:36:50,666 --> 00:36:54,791
Someone to help carry that story. Where these two

662
00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:56,875
characters, two beloved characters come,

663
00:36:56,875 --> 00:36:58,541
and they clash, and it's

664
00:36:58,583 --> 00:37:01,458
a like a camaraderie at the end, you

665
00:37:01,458 --> 00:37:03,875
know, they're respect each other so much that it's

666
00:37:03,875 --> 00:37:06,125
it goes, you know, for different sequels.

667
00:37:06,125 --> 00:37:09,791
But what I'm trying to say is, is that

668
00:37:10,916 --> 00:37:12,500
I've never been a champion,

669
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,333
but you want to fight me?

670
00:37:14,708 --> 00:37:16,666
You're jumping the gun, but you're

671
00:37:16,666 --> 00:37:18,875
You want to challenge me?

672
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:22,000
I would be honored if you would -Yeah.

673
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,208
be the "Apollo Creed" in my story.

674
00:37:24,208 --> 00:37:26,416
Absolutely bro, you could beat me.

675
00:37:31,875 --> 00:37:33,458
That's what I've been working on.

676
00:37:33,458 --> 00:37:35,291
It took three years to get to that point.

677
00:37:36,041 --> 00:37:39,083
And what do you think?

678
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,250
I think it's too big for you, because

679
00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:42,375
I don't think it's the right weight class.

680
00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:44,416
I mean, if you're walking around 167, that

681
00:37:44,416 --> 00:37:46,958
means you fight at 160 or 54.

682
00:37:47,416 --> 00:37:50,000
So that's an issue, you know, but at the

683
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,166
same token, he's game for it, and he's right.

684
00:37:52,166 --> 00:37:54,000
He's, you know, he's a rough guy that he doesn't

685
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,583
he's not going to really take into consideration you

686
00:37:57,583 --> 00:37:59,000
want to put him in the ring, he's going to

687
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,541
throw punches, and that's the respect that you deserve.

688
00:38:02,958 --> 00:38:04,291
If you're going to get in there, he should try to

689
00:38:04,291 --> 00:38:07,041
knock you out, and if he knocks you out in 1

690
00:38:07,041 --> 00:38:09,583
second or 40 seconds or never, that's the way it works.

691
00:38:09,583 --> 00:38:10,583
That's the way it goes.

692
00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:16,041
What's the, what's the next step?

693
00:38:17,291 --> 00:38:19,916
The next step is to have the fight try to

694
00:38:19,916 --> 00:38:21,958
figure out how we can how and where we can

695
00:38:21,958 --> 00:38:25,000
sanction the fight, because a lot of commissions, most

696
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,458
United States commissions will not allow the fight.

697
00:38:30,291 --> 00:38:31,750
The MS may be enough to

698
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:33,625
stop them from sanctioning the fight.

699
00:38:35,041 --> 00:38:37,958
The size difference may be enough.

700
00:38:37,958 --> 00:38:40,083
The lack of experience. I mean, to get a

701
00:38:40,083 --> 00:38:43,333
state commission to sanction a real professional bout

702
00:38:43,333 --> 00:38:45,666
is going to be a challenge all unto itself.

703
00:38:45,666 --> 00:38:47,375
Now, there's there may be states, like, where

704
00:38:47,375 --> 00:38:49,250
they do bare knuckle matches. The commission is a

705
00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:52,083
little bit more lax. Out of the country

706
00:38:52,083 --> 00:38:53,916
they're a lot more lax in different countries.

707
00:38:54,958 --> 00:38:56,666
But really, to be honest, if you go to

708
00:38:56,666 --> 00:38:57,875
any doctor, you tell them you have MS and

709
00:38:57,875 --> 00:38:59,000
you want to schedule a fight, they're going to tell you no.

710
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,208
I would imagine not because they care

711
00:39:01,208 --> 00:39:03,166
about you, not because they think that

712
00:39:03,166 --> 00:39:04,666
something's bad is going to happen.

713
00:39:04,666 --> 00:39:07,000
They're just afraid that if something does happen,

714
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,125
and they put him on the stand and say,

715
00:39:09,125 --> 00:39:10,416
"Doctor, did you know he had MS"?

716
00:39:10,416 --> 00:39:12,083
And the doctor says, "yes, I did".

717
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:13,791
They say, "okay, well, you're going to jail".

718
00:39:14,458 --> 00:39:16,000
That's not he's worried about you.

719
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,708
He's just worried about himself.

720
00:39:16,708 --> 00:39:17,375
He doesn't want to go to jail.

721
00:39:17,375 --> 00:39:18,875
And you can't blame them.

722
00:39:20,916 --> 00:39:22,333
I know it's crazy.

723
00:39:22,333 --> 00:39:24,625
I know it's impossible. Nothing is impossible.

724
00:39:24,625 --> 00:39:26,583
For starters. Impossible is nothing.

725
00:39:28,375 --> 00:39:30,583
In the end, he's just a man with gloves on.

726
00:39:33,208 --> 00:39:35,708
In the back of my mind, always.

727
00:39:36,250 --> 00:39:39,916
How long can I sustain before my next relapse?

728
00:39:40,416 --> 00:39:44,458
Today, I will be boxing Marlon Moraes,

729
00:39:44,458 --> 00:39:47,416
ranked Number One in the UFC.

730
00:39:47,416 --> 00:39:51,583
Former UFC champion Frankie Edgar will be watching.

731
00:39:51,791 --> 00:39:56,625
If I'm to continue on my journey, I need his blessing.

732
00:39:56,625 --> 00:39:59,250
I need to put up a good fight.

733
00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:01,208
For sure, I was nervous when you were training with

734
00:40:01,208 --> 00:40:03,458
Marlon, man. You know, like I said, I don't know much

735
00:40:03,458 --> 00:40:06,375
about MS, so I didn't know what's

736
00:40:06,541 --> 00:40:08,375
dangerous, what's not dangerous.

737
00:40:30,416 --> 00:40:33,750
Is there any risk because I have MS,

738
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:36,000
that Jocelyn would get MS?

739
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,791
Patients with MS have a 1% chance of increase

740
00:40:40,791 --> 00:40:44,208
of a child having MS versus somebody that doesn't

741
00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:46,416
have MS, but it's more genetic.

742
00:41:10,875 --> 00:41:13,166
For sure I was nervous when you training with Marlon.

743
00:41:13,166 --> 00:41:17,416
I said, I don't know much about MS I didn't know

744
00:41:17,416 --> 00:41:19,416
what's dangerous whats not dangerous.

745
00:41:44,708 --> 00:41:47,500
And you're still working out pretty regular. Yeah.

746
00:41:48,625 --> 00:41:50,833
Which also is super for MS.

747
00:41:50,833 --> 00:41:53,000
Helps the fatigue, helps the balance.

748
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,791
I mean, everybody should have at least

749
00:41:55,833 --> 00:41:57,458
some sort of a workout routine.

750
00:41:57,458 --> 00:41:58,625
That's a good thing.

751
00:42:19,125 --> 00:42:21,208
Memory is doing alright?

752
00:42:26,375 --> 00:42:30,375
Sequence stuff is really hard for me.

753
00:42:30,375 --> 00:42:32,000
Like remembering a phone number.

754
00:42:32,041 --> 00:42:34,208
If you tell me to remember a phone number

755
00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:35,833
right now, I'm probably not going to remember it.

756
00:42:36,166 --> 00:42:40,708
Or like, for example, for the boxing that I'm doing.

757
00:42:40,708 --> 00:42:41,500
Yes.

758
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:44,875
They'll do the pads, and they'll say a combination.

759
00:42:44,875 --> 00:42:45,708
1.2.3.

760
00:42:46,708 --> 00:42:49,458
I'm like an airhead. I can't even remember 1,2,3.

761
00:42:50,791 --> 00:42:53,333
I'm really struggling with just remembering.

762
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:55,125
Its dangerous for them.

763
00:42:55,125 --> 00:42:57,000
Because I can slip and hit them.

764
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,666
Right, right.

765
00:42:58,666 --> 00:43:01,333
And I wish there was something magical.

766
00:43:01,333 --> 00:43:03,958
But you're exercising or sleeping okay at night?

767
00:43:04,208 --> 00:43:05,666
Pretty good. Yeah.

768
00:43:05,666 --> 00:43:07,208
Okay. How is the fatigue, do you think?

769
00:43:08,583 --> 00:43:10,041
Um, lately?

770
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:15,916
Like, right now, I'm pretty good.

771
00:43:15,916 --> 00:43:17,666
But I mean, that's another thing I wanted to

772
00:43:17,666 --> 00:43:21,666
talk about is the whole month of December really?

773
00:43:21,916 --> 00:43:23,958
That was pretty bad. -Okay.

774
00:43:23,958 --> 00:43:28,583
with the headaches and the fatigue and just um,

775
00:43:31,458 --> 00:43:35,916
I don't want to say desire, but that was pretty bad.

776
00:43:35,916 --> 00:43:36,583
Okay.

777
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,041
Anything going on during that month?

778
00:43:40,041 --> 00:43:44,791
Any infections, colds, flus, stress?

779
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,833
Definitely stress. -Okay.

780
00:43:47,833 --> 00:43:51,708
I wasn't able to see my baby, Jocelyn.

781
00:43:51,708 --> 00:43:54,333
I wasn't able to see her the whole month.

782
00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:55,791
Pretty much. -Gotchya.

783
00:43:56,250 --> 00:44:02,000
And I know we don't usually talk personally. -Yeah.

784
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,875
But you know how Jessica used to come in

785
00:44:04,875 --> 00:44:07,208
with me all the time? -Yeah. And now it's just me?

786
00:44:07,208 --> 00:44:10,666
And everything affects the MS, makes things worse.

787
00:44:10,666 --> 00:44:15,000
It's definitely something that someone bring up.

788
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,625
Got you.

789
00:44:15,625 --> 00:44:16,833
How to manage the stress.

790
00:44:16,833 --> 00:44:21,250
So the relationship and the support is kind of

791
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:23,125
Kaputz.

792
00:44:23,125 --> 00:44:23,750
Yeah.

793
00:45:03,541 --> 00:45:06,833
But you're still able to see your daughter? -Yeah, yeah.

794
00:45:06,833 --> 00:45:10,291
It's gotten better because, I mean, it gets difficult

795
00:45:10,291 --> 00:45:12,666
too, just to, you know, because I'm coming from all the

796
00:45:12,666 --> 00:45:14,583
way from Miami because I live with my brother now,

797
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:18,250
so I go to see her then.

798
00:45:18,250 --> 00:45:20,916
But just like, small, stupid stuff.

799
00:45:20,916 --> 00:45:24,666
Like, for instance, I had the brakes,

800
00:45:24,666 --> 00:45:26,833
but I had to fix my car. -Yeah.

801
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:30,583
I didn't want to put her in the car with bad brakes.

802
00:45:30,958 --> 00:45:33,166
Right. And I couldn't financially get, you know,

803
00:45:33,166 --> 00:45:35,458
afford to fix the brakes so I just went the whole month

804
00:45:35,666 --> 00:45:38,541
of December is kind of, like, really tough.

805
00:45:38,666 --> 00:45:40,500
Sure. Because shes like everything to me.

806
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:42,833
I couldn't see her. -Yeah, that is hard.

807
00:45:43,208 --> 00:45:46,375
That is hard. Honestly. Yeah.

808
00:45:46,750 --> 00:45:49,750
That's not good.

809
00:45:50,458 --> 00:45:54,625
It all affects the Ms, so thinking things are a

810
00:45:54,625 --> 00:45:58,375
little bit worse may not be the brain lesion is

811
00:45:58,375 --> 00:46:00,875
getting worse, or those kinds of things, or the MS

812
00:46:00,875 --> 00:46:05,250
progressing, but that stress can just really be enormous.

813
00:46:05,875 --> 00:46:10,250
The cognitive stuff and the processing, if things aren't

814
00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:12,666
going well, you need to be able to say,

815
00:46:12,666 --> 00:46:15,916
you know what, having a bad day. Yeah.

816
00:46:15,916 --> 00:46:17,083
Can't happen today.

817
00:46:17,625 --> 00:46:18,833
Yeah, that makes sense.

818
00:47:28,875 --> 00:47:31,250
So you don't think that I should take that?

819
00:47:31,958 --> 00:47:33,500
What's that stuff? Ocrevus?

820
00:47:33,875 --> 00:47:35,583
I like Ocrevus.

821
00:47:35,583 --> 00:47:38,750
We probably have well over 200, maybe

822
00:47:38,750 --> 00:47:41,000
250 people on Ocrevus now.

823
00:47:41,708 --> 00:47:44,083
I haven't seen a lot of risk of increased infections

824
00:47:44,083 --> 00:47:48,125
and things, especially in people physically, as good as you

825
00:47:48,125 --> 00:47:50,125
are, some people that are a little more impaired might

826
00:47:50,125 --> 00:47:52,458
have a more of a risk of respiratory infections and

827
00:47:52,458 --> 00:47:56,000
things. That's just from the infusion aspect?

828
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,458
Yeah. Because it's a mild chemotherapy. -Ohhh.

829
00:47:58,541 --> 00:48:02,333
It's actually depleting cells. So its, right,

830
00:48:03,833 --> 00:48:06,916
I know that word conjures up a lot of bad stuff.

831
00:48:07,083 --> 00:48:09,125
I thought you did great.

832
00:48:09,666 --> 00:48:12,541
You're in there not afraid to get hit and

833
00:48:12,541 --> 00:48:14,583
then not afraid to take one, to give one.

834
00:48:14,583 --> 00:48:17,083
I think what you've done so far, you're

835
00:48:17,083 --> 00:48:18,125
on the other side of it, man, where

836
00:48:18,125 --> 00:48:20,083
you're inspiring people, you're inspiring myself.

837
00:48:20,083 --> 00:48:22,083
The fact that you're going after this, having

838
00:48:22,083 --> 00:48:24,708
MS, I mean, if that doesn't motivate

839
00:48:24,708 --> 00:48:26,833
someone, I don't know what really would?

840
00:48:26,833 --> 00:48:29,125
I got Frankie Anger's blessing.

841
00:48:29,125 --> 00:48:31,541
I got the confidence that I

842
00:48:31,541 --> 00:48:34,833
needed to continue my journey.

843
00:48:34,833 --> 00:48:39,208
Seems like things are starting to fall in my favor.

844
00:48:40,041 --> 00:48:41,875
Now on to the Big Apple.

845
00:48:46,125 --> 00:48:48,333
I work for Matchroom Boxing USA.

846
00:48:48,333 --> 00:48:50,083
My title is the Event Manager

847
00:48:50,083 --> 00:48:52,291
and Head of Athlete Relations.

848
00:48:52,291 --> 00:48:54,250
I'm Kevin Rooney Jr.

849
00:48:54,250 --> 00:48:57,625
The taller, better looking version of my father.

850
00:48:58,541 --> 00:49:00,875
Some of my earliest memories are with my

851
00:49:00,875 --> 00:49:02,958
father and Mike Tyson training camps.

852
00:49:02,958 --> 00:49:03,916
I didn't go to the fights.

853
00:49:03,916 --> 00:49:05,375
I was just too young.

854
00:49:05,375 --> 00:49:07,208
Him and my dad split up in 88',

855
00:49:07,208 --> 00:49:09,125
so I was only four years old.

856
00:49:09,125 --> 00:49:12,875
But I have memories of him and Mike in training

857
00:49:12,875 --> 00:49:15,541
camp in Vegas, in Atlantic City, and Mike hitting

858
00:49:15,541 --> 00:49:18,875
the bag and Mike getting bloody noses during sparring.

859
00:49:23,166 --> 00:49:26,166
How did you first become aware of Nicholas Zarrillo me?

860
00:49:26,166 --> 00:49:31,541
Instagram social media, the world we live in.

861
00:49:32,208 --> 00:49:35,750
But when you had reached out, I remembered

862
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:38,250
Chris had talked to me about it, like

863
00:49:38,250 --> 00:49:40,416
you said in 2017, you sparred with him.

864
00:49:40,416 --> 00:49:41,875
I remember Chris bringing it up, and then as

865
00:49:41,875 --> 00:49:44,166
soon as you reached out, I texted Chris, and

866
00:49:44,166 --> 00:49:46,708
I'm like, this is your boy, right? This is the guy?

867
00:49:46,708 --> 00:49:47,708
And he's like, "yeah, it is".

868
00:49:47,708 --> 00:49:48,958
What are your thoughts on me

869
00:49:48,958 --> 00:49:50,333
creating my own "Rocky story"?

870
00:49:50,333 --> 00:49:55,333
I mean, I think it's intriguing, you know what I mean.

871
00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:58,083
Where I think that's what this sport is about.

872
00:49:58,083 --> 00:50:00,458
It's like the element of surprise and the element

873
00:50:00,458 --> 00:50:02,750
of you never know what's going to happen in

874
00:50:02,750 --> 00:50:05,291
this sport. And everyone's always looking for a story.

875
00:50:05,291 --> 00:50:06,458
I mean, this is a story.

876
00:50:12,458 --> 00:50:13,791
You know what I mean? Like you said, it is the real

877
00:50:13,833 --> 00:50:18,125
life Rocky story, and it's intriguing, it's inspiring.

878
00:50:18,833 --> 00:50:22,291
And that's what I think, that this sport, kind

879
00:50:22,291 --> 00:50:24,375
of unlike any other, is what it does.

880
00:50:24,375 --> 00:50:25,625
It inspires people.

881
00:50:25,625 --> 00:50:28,291
It motivates people, and it gives people

882
00:50:28,333 --> 00:50:32,083
the opportunity to do things that they

883
00:50:32,083 --> 00:50:33,458
never thought they could do before.

884
00:50:48,166 --> 00:50:49,875
I mean, people will want to come out and be part

885
00:50:49,875 --> 00:50:51,583
of that journey and part of that voyage and just

886
00:50:51,583 --> 00:50:53,833
say, "Look, I'm going through this as well,

887
00:50:53,833 --> 00:50:55,541
I'm here to support him".

888
00:50:55,541 --> 00:50:56,916
Again, it just goes back to

889
00:50:56,916 --> 00:50:58,500
the inspiration aspect of it.

890
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:01,000
He's an inspiration to all of us, to the fact

891
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,791
that he's able to do this gives me hope that

892
00:51:02,791 --> 00:51:06,541
I'm able to do whatever it is that they desire.

893
00:51:06,541 --> 00:51:08,625
If it's playing an instrument or playing

894
00:51:08,625 --> 00:51:10,166
another sport, you know what I mean?

895
00:51:10,375 --> 00:51:13,916
Your vision, your dream is to compete in one of the

896
00:51:13,916 --> 00:51:17,916
most ruthless sports in the world you know what I mean?

897
00:51:17,916 --> 00:51:20,583
And to do that with with your disease,

898
00:51:20,583 --> 00:51:23,166
I mean, it just it gives people hope.

899
00:51:23,166 --> 00:51:24,791
I mean, and not even people with MS,

900
00:51:24,791 --> 00:51:26,458
just anyone in general.

901
00:51:26,458 --> 00:51:28,333
Like, if that guy can do that

902
00:51:28,333 --> 00:51:30,458
shit, why can't I go do this?

903
00:52:24,041 --> 00:52:29,416
Years wasted, stripped away by a fucking pandemic.

904
00:52:29,416 --> 00:52:31,041
Can't win anything back

905
00:52:31,041 --> 00:52:34,333
If there's no fight. Where do I go from here?

906
00:52:34,333 --> 00:52:36,500
Was this all for nothing?

907
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:43,041
I guess I want to say that, ah,

908
00:52:43,041 --> 00:52:45,458
to anybody who can hear it, anybody who's listening.

909
00:52:45,458 --> 00:52:48,500
Man keep fighting. Stay strong.

910
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:51,333
No matter what you're going through,

911
00:52:51,833 --> 00:52:54,166
God always got you back.

912
00:52:54,166 --> 00:52:55,583
Somebody got you back.

913
00:52:55,583 --> 00:52:57,625
And if it feels like they don't,

914
00:52:59,083 --> 00:53:01,208
You got to have your own back sometimes.

915
00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:03,666
So don't cry about it. Stay strong. Go forward.

916
00:53:03,666 --> 00:53:04,583
That's it. Go forward.

917
00:53:04,583 --> 00:53:06,375
That's my message, you know what I'm saying?

918
00:53:06,916 --> 00:53:09,125
Because I'm out here going in, I'm fighting.

919
00:53:09,125 --> 00:53:10,833
I'm going to put it all online.

920
00:53:10,833 --> 00:53:13,166
I'm going to die for this shit, or I'm just going

921
00:53:13,166 --> 00:53:15,958
to live while doing some shit that I think that I

922
00:53:15,958 --> 00:53:19,500
would die for. This shit ain't going to kill me.

923
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:21,458
This shit only going to make me stronger.

924
00:53:21,458 --> 00:53:23,541
Suffering only makes you stronger.

925
00:53:26,083 --> 00:53:29,291
Let's suffer, together.

926
00:54:39,333 --> 00:54:41,750
I do have a little confession to make.

927
00:54:42,708 --> 00:54:45,125
I haven't been to church in a long time.

928
00:54:45,125 --> 00:54:49,750
Okay. So what does that mean?

929
00:54:52,875 --> 00:54:54,541
Maybe it's time.

930
00:54:55,708 --> 00:54:58,041
You want to be a role model. -Yeah.

931
00:54:59,125 --> 00:55:00,583
And you'll be a good one.

932
00:55:00,791 --> 00:55:04,791
Even the great role models humble themselves on their knees,

933
00:55:05,541 --> 00:55:09,875
turning to God, saying, it's truly all about you.

934
00:55:11,541 --> 00:55:13,375
I can inspire people.

935
00:55:13,375 --> 00:55:14,916
I can do good things.

936
00:55:15,958 --> 00:55:20,875
But it's only really worthwhile if it's in your name.

937
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:26,000
He needs to be your ace in the hand. Right?

938
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:30,666
He sees a hero on his knees.

939
00:55:32,625 --> 00:55:36,500
He sees a hero being a good example.

940
00:55:37,833 --> 00:55:40,416
And all the young ladies and all the young men

941
00:55:40,416 --> 00:55:44,291
who will look up to you will take note.

942
00:55:44,291 --> 00:55:48,041
This old priest can inspire an older crowd.

943
00:55:48,041 --> 00:55:50,333
I'm not going to inspire kids.

944
00:55:51,125 --> 00:55:52,416
Heroes do.

945
00:55:58,500 --> 00:55:59,666
Careful.

946
00:55:59,666 --> 00:56:00,666
What about the other doctor?

947
00:56:00,666 --> 00:56:01,916
Does he have to go back?

948
00:56:03,708 --> 00:56:05,125
The GI doctor?

949
00:56:05,791 --> 00:56:07,375
No, the one in Austria.

950
00:56:08,583 --> 00:56:13,625
Well, we're going back in May, but in general,

951
00:56:13,625 --> 00:56:16,125
considering that they wanted to do surgery on her

952
00:56:16,125 --> 00:56:18,541
and all the doctors here said that they couldn't

953
00:56:18,541 --> 00:56:21,625
do anything, I think I did a good job.

954
00:56:22,458 --> 00:56:24,041
Saved her from surgery.

955
00:56:26,375 --> 00:56:28,250
Right, no more "tubi".

956
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:32,083
So what about possibly, like you were saying,

957
00:56:37,958 --> 00:56:39,458
moving to Austria?

958
00:56:39,458 --> 00:56:40,750
What are you talking about?

959
00:56:41,375 --> 00:56:43,916
You said you might possibly. You were thinking about it.

960
00:56:43,916 --> 00:56:48,125
I thought it would be a possible good option.

961
00:56:49,375 --> 00:56:53,541
Switzerland is really good too, because they

962
00:56:53,541 --> 00:56:56,958
have free education and things like that.

963
00:56:56,958 --> 00:56:58,958
And I think that if she had the opportunity to

964
00:56:58,958 --> 00:57:03,291
go to school for free would be a good idea.

965
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,791
But that's, why are we bringing up?

966
00:57:11,208 --> 00:57:14,166
She's going to move to Austria if it's something

967
00:57:14,166 --> 00:57:15,875
that you were going to consider, is something

968
00:57:15,875 --> 00:57:18,583
that would be highly effective to me.

969
00:57:20,250 --> 00:57:23,291
And all my concern was whatever was best for her.

970
00:57:23,291 --> 00:57:24,250
So I don't understand why

971
00:57:24,250 --> 00:57:25,833
you're asking that specifically?

972
00:57:28,166 --> 00:57:29,333
I'm just concerned thats all.

973
00:57:30,208 --> 00:57:31,250
Concerned about what?

974
00:57:32,875 --> 00:57:34,666
Not being able to see her that much.

975
00:57:35,541 --> 00:57:37,958
You see her once a month as it is.

976
00:57:41,375 --> 00:57:44,625
That's equivalent to one full day a month.

977
00:57:47,333 --> 00:57:50,166
I focused a lot of my negative energy,

978
00:57:50,166 --> 00:57:51,916
I guess, into the training.

979
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:58,166
And, you know, I traveled around and when I trained

980
00:57:58,166 --> 00:58:03,958
with these guys, like, I learned to respect them.

981
00:58:03,958 --> 00:58:07,875
Like, almost like training with a gun.

982
00:58:07,875 --> 00:58:10,291
You need to respect the gun because

983
00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:13,375
you could get seriously hurt or killed.

984
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,416
Get all this experience with these world champions and

985
00:58:17,416 --> 00:58:20,375
like layer by layer, building back that confidence.

986
00:58:21,458 --> 00:58:24,291
Like this suit that I'm wearing right now. Right?

987
00:58:25,041 --> 00:58:28,166
This was given to me by I don't

988
00:58:28,166 --> 00:58:30,166
know if you're familiar with Conor McGregor?

989
00:58:30,166 --> 00:58:32,041
This is his fashion line.

990
00:58:32,583 --> 00:58:37,666
Like, they believe in my journey, gave me this suit.

991
00:58:37,666 --> 00:58:39,208
Best suit I ever had. Right.

992
00:58:40,625 --> 00:58:43,708
Even though these good things are happening,

993
00:58:46,833 --> 00:58:51,458
I still, wakeup every morning and I just feel like

994
00:58:51,458 --> 00:58:57,333
a failure because I can't be there with my

995
00:58:57,333 --> 00:59:03,291
daughter every day. I can't raise her like I

996
00:59:03,291 --> 00:59:05,416
envisioned it, like how we're taught to.

997
00:59:15,625 --> 00:59:17,416
How do you know I don't want what's best for her?

998
00:59:17,416 --> 00:59:21,833
Because she would have just made a sacrifice

999
00:59:21,833 --> 00:59:24,125
at any point, but you never do.

1000
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,416
See, I thought I was making a sacrifice.

1001
00:59:35,416 --> 00:59:38,875
That's where we're having this disconnect.

1002
00:59:39,083 --> 00:59:41,000
I thought I was Sacrificing.

1003
00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:45,250
You know what the thing is, though? Fuck you.

1004
00:59:45,250 --> 00:59:47,875
Because this is a helpless child.

1005
00:59:48,833 --> 00:59:51,000
Who I was there for. I was there for her every day.

1006
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,166
You were not.

1007
00:59:52,166 --> 00:59:53,250
Check my phone.

1008
00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:56,125
I have all pictures back from day one. Day one.

1009
00:59:56,125 --> 00:59:58,500
And you said that you you take one day that

1010
00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:01,666
I fucked up and you're you're, you're fucking

1011
01:00:01,666 --> 01:00:05,125
castrating me for the entire span of it. One day.

1012
01:00:05,666 --> 01:00:06,791
Fucking passed out you.

1013
01:00:06,791 --> 01:00:08,916
And you told me, you just told me

1014
01:00:08,916 --> 01:00:12,166
that that you're yeah, you're fucking nanny.

1015
01:00:12,166 --> 01:00:13,916
She goes to sleep all the time.

1016
01:00:13,916 --> 01:00:16,250
I fucked up once and went to sleep once.

1017
01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:18,000
I had no choice.

1018
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,166
And how dangerous was I to the baby?

1019
01:00:20,166 --> 01:00:21,583
None. -Considering I had to

1020
01:00:21,583 --> 01:00:23,750
leave work early several times. -Once.Once. Because

1021
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:28,041
I fell asleep once. Because she was vomiting, almost

1022
01:00:28,041 --> 01:00:31,125
aspirated her tube and could have easily died.

1023
01:00:31,125 --> 01:00:34,125
She asp...She knocked her tube out all the time.

1024
01:00:34,125 --> 01:00:35,416
That's why she wore the wore the glove.

1025
01:00:35,416 --> 01:00:39,833
You know that. We went to the doctors

1026
01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:41,750
several times to get the tube put back in.

1027
01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:43,541
And you're going to sit there and try

1028
01:00:43,541 --> 01:00:46,250
to blame me for this whole thing?

1029
01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:47,958
You're not listening to me.

1030
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:50,791
It's fine.

1031
01:00:50,791 --> 01:00:52,250
You don't have to listen.

1032
01:00:52,541 --> 01:00:54,000
I'm listening to you.

1033
01:00:56,583 --> 01:00:59,458
You asked me a question. I gave you an answer.

1034
01:01:01,041 --> 01:01:02,500
You're not fit.

1035
01:01:05,708 --> 01:01:08,416
It's good that you stepped up now and you seem to

1036
01:01:08,416 --> 01:01:11,875
like, want to take care of her because you sure as

1037
01:01:11,875 --> 01:01:14,625
hell had no interest in her when you were living here.

1038
01:01:17,375 --> 01:01:20,166
I had several hundred pictures and videos

1039
01:01:20,166 --> 01:01:22,666
that we've taken together that says otherwise.

1040
01:01:23,583 --> 01:01:26,083
Well, your perception on what you

1041
01:01:26,083 --> 01:01:28,125
were looking at is your own perception.

1042
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:32,000
Everyone's perception is their own perception.

1043
01:01:37,583 --> 01:01:39,833
I would do anything for her.

1044
01:01:40,791 --> 01:01:43,125
You are unfit to take care of her.

1045
01:01:43,125 --> 01:01:45,000
I'm protecting her from you.

1046
01:01:45,916 --> 01:01:47,125
Because I'm such a monster right?

1047
01:01:47,125 --> 01:01:48,458
You stepped up and

1048
01:01:48,458 --> 01:01:51,791
you take care of her, the limited time that

1049
01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:54,041
you spend with her because that somehow works.

1050
01:01:54,041 --> 01:01:55,166
And that's fine.

1051
01:01:55,166 --> 01:01:56,958
That's why I'm letting you see her.

1052
01:01:57,208 --> 01:01:59,625
But when I used to leave, she used to

1053
01:01:59,625 --> 01:02:02,250
scream and try to get away from you.

1054
01:02:02,250 --> 01:02:04,500
So now she looks forward to seeing you.

1055
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:06,458
And if she continues, if it seems like

1056
01:02:06,458 --> 01:02:08,083
a positive thing for her, then good.

1057
01:02:08,083 --> 01:02:10,708
If it turns back to what it was, then I

1058
01:02:10,708 --> 01:02:13,333
will fight tooth and nail to keep her away from you

1059
01:02:13,333 --> 01:02:16,333
because I will not have anything hurt her.

1060
01:02:20,208 --> 01:02:22,125
Where do you even get this that I'm such a monster?

1061
01:02:22,125 --> 01:02:23,416
I don't understand?

1062
01:02:24,083 --> 01:02:25,583
Where are you even getting it from?

1063
01:02:26,708 --> 01:02:28,875
I think your story, Nicholas, is really

1064
01:02:29,583 --> 01:02:32,500
an awesome story about not giving up.

1065
01:02:34,541 --> 01:02:36,791
Just don't give up.

1066
01:02:38,250 --> 01:02:42,208
You wanted to come to the church just to talk.

1067
01:02:44,166 --> 01:02:46,250
Who do you think called you in here?

1068
01:02:48,208 --> 01:02:50,833
For a reason, because he sees a lot of good in you

1069
01:02:51,583 --> 01:02:53,583
and he finds you useful.

1070
01:02:55,208 --> 01:02:58,291
I get it. I get that you, that you,

1071
01:02:58,291 --> 01:03:02,125
in your mind I'm a bad father. Okay? I get that.

1072
01:03:02,125 --> 01:03:04,833
You're not even a bad father. You're just a bad person.

1073
01:03:04,833 --> 01:03:07,500
You calling me a monster! That's just ridiculous, man.

1074
01:03:09,333 --> 01:03:11,375
I just call'em like I see'em Nick.

1075
01:03:13,416 --> 01:03:16,083
I've accepted you for what you are, but

1076
01:03:16,083 --> 01:03:18,250
you need to understand, that's why I'm

1077
01:03:18,250 --> 01:03:20,541
limiting her exposure to you.

1078
01:03:45,416 --> 01:03:47,125
How many times have people come to church like this

1079
01:03:47,125 --> 01:03:50,708
one on one with the priest, right? It's not common.

1080
01:03:51,166 --> 01:03:53,041
Who has you here? God does.

1081
01:03:54,208 --> 01:03:57,833
And he shows you how much he cares for you.

1082
01:03:58,625 --> 01:04:00,500
And that's something to ponder too.

1083
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,625
Isn't it strange?

1084
01:04:02,625 --> 01:04:07,208
In the ring, you are so powerful, but

1085
01:04:07,208 --> 01:04:11,583
here in God's house, you're a bit nervous.

1086
01:04:15,916 --> 01:04:17,666
I think you should just film this part

1087
01:04:17,666 --> 01:04:19,000
and then cut out the rest of it.

1088
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,250
It's not really going to bode well for you.

1089
01:04:22,416 --> 01:04:27,458
As a lonely, single father,

1090
01:04:27,916 --> 01:04:29,750
takes care of his daughter.

1091
01:04:45,916 --> 01:04:48,666
Here's the most important message that I can give

1092
01:04:48,666 --> 01:04:52,208
to Nick and anybody that is out here listening.

1093
01:04:53,500 --> 01:04:56,916
Is that, no matter how hard it gets,

1094
01:04:58,125 --> 01:04:59,916
nobody gives a fuck.

1095
01:05:00,125 --> 01:05:04,166
Keep going. Keep doing you. Keep doing your thing.

1096
01:05:04,166 --> 01:05:06,375
You just keep going forward. Keep doing you.

1097
01:05:06,375 --> 01:05:08,833
Don't wait for somebody to help you. Don't sit down.

1098
01:05:08,833 --> 01:05:10,333
Don't lay down and die.

1099
01:05:10,333 --> 01:05:12,541
Get your ass up, stop crying,

1100
01:05:12,541 --> 01:05:15,125
and fucking go fight for something.

1101
01:05:21,333 --> 01:05:23,750
We didn't always have a lot of time together,

1102
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,291
but we always made the best of it.

1103
01:05:29,625 --> 01:05:31,625
Playing Lion King.

1104
01:05:32,125 --> 01:05:34,958
Please, please help me.

1105
01:05:39,416 --> 01:05:40,583
Holidays.

1106
01:05:44,875 --> 01:05:47,833
Jack Nicholson's Joker impressions. -Boo!

1107
01:05:48,458 --> 01:05:50,166
My personal favorite...

1108
01:05:50,166 --> 01:05:52,250
And then just sprinkle. Making pizza.

1109
01:05:52,250 --> 01:05:53,208
All you got to do is sprinkle.

1110
01:05:53,208 --> 01:05:54,000
You don't even have to touch.

1111
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:58,416
Just sprinkle. sprinkle, sprinkle. Sprinkle!

1112
01:05:59,291 --> 01:06:01,750
Yes. sprinkle, sprinkle! Sprinkle!

1113
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,791
Ready to put the pizza in the oven? -Yeah.

1114
01:06:10,250 --> 01:06:11,250
Dada!

1115
01:06:15,958 --> 01:06:19,041
Who's that? Is that Daddy's hair see it?

1116
01:06:19,333 --> 01:06:21,916
He's strong. -Who's that?

1117
01:06:24,375 --> 01:06:28,500
Dada strong and thats Jocelyn. -Awe!

1118
01:06:29,333 --> 01:06:33,666
Four days a month, I see my rosebud.

1119
01:06:34,333 --> 01:06:38,583
For those days, I don't feel like a failure.

1120
01:06:39,833 --> 01:06:42,375
I feel alive.

1121
01:06:48,583 --> 01:06:50,375
How you doing? -Hey.

1122
01:06:54,333 --> 01:06:55,666
Life is life, bro.

1123
01:06:55,666 --> 01:06:58,541
I'm a fighter, and life sucks

1124
01:06:58,541 --> 01:07:00,375
sometimes, so that's why I fight.

1125
01:07:00,375 --> 01:07:02,250
So it is what it is.

1126
01:07:02,250 --> 01:07:05,791
But other than that, you know, life is all right.

1127
01:07:06,291 --> 01:07:08,666
You know I respect the guy for willing to step in there

1128
01:07:08,666 --> 01:07:11,583
but, you know, when these knuckles

1129
01:07:11,583 --> 01:07:15,208
touch his noggin, he gonna be rocking.

1130
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:18,250
And you know what Aliyah said?

1131
01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:21,416
Don't rock the boat. Rock the boat, baby.

1132
01:07:22,333 --> 01:07:26,291
How has COVID affected your life?

1133
01:07:26,750 --> 01:07:33,708
COVID has really just slowed me down from partying.

1134
01:07:36,166 --> 01:07:38,166
I'm better than I've ever been.

1135
01:07:38,625 --> 01:07:40,500
I'm smarter than I've ever been.

1136
01:07:41,083 --> 01:07:46,291
Faster, stronger, well rested.

1137
01:07:47,416 --> 01:07:49,208
I'm the best version of myself.

1138
01:07:49,875 --> 01:07:52,750
To my opponent, Nick. Welcome to hell.

1139
01:07:53,208 --> 01:07:56,666
How does it feel to be compared to

1140
01:07:56,666 --> 01:08:01,000
the iconic Apollo Creed in my documentary?

1141
01:08:03,666 --> 01:08:12,416
Um, I mean, man. Apollo is well, he's a movie legend.

1142
01:08:12,750 --> 01:08:14,291
You know what I mean?

1143
01:08:15,208 --> 01:08:17,541
I don't know. He's a movie guy.

1144
01:08:18,583 --> 01:08:20,333
I'm not an actor.

1145
01:08:20,500 --> 01:08:23,833
This crazy guy think he going to fight with Platinum.

1146
01:08:25,375 --> 01:08:27,166
I respect the crazy guy.

1147
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:31,250
I respect that. I can give him what he wants.

1148
01:08:32,666 --> 01:08:34,750
What's your prediction on the fight?

1149
01:08:35,083 --> 01:08:36,875
It's always the same, man.

1150
01:08:38,375 --> 01:08:40,125
I'm gonna knock this guy out.

1151
01:08:41,083 --> 01:08:45,583
I'm a real live combatant. And ah,

1152
01:08:50,666 --> 01:08:52,291
I'm not really sure, man.

1153
01:08:52,291 --> 01:08:55,375
You know, it's just totally different.

1154
01:08:55,916 --> 01:08:58,458
Rocky Four had a famous exhibition

1155
01:08:58,458 --> 01:09:00,958
with Apollo Creed versus Ivan Drago.

1156
01:09:01,583 --> 01:09:04,166
What are your thoughts on the final fight

1157
01:09:04,166 --> 01:09:07,750
of my documentary being with you as an exhibition?

1158
01:09:07,750 --> 01:09:10,250
Exhibition is a popular topic right now

1159
01:09:10,250 --> 01:09:12,416
with Mike Tyson and Roy Jones.

1160
01:09:13,375 --> 01:09:15,625
So if we can get some cameras behind it and

1161
01:09:15,625 --> 01:09:19,250
some attention to a great cause, I'm all for it.

1162
01:09:19,416 --> 01:09:23,250
My prediction for the exhibition is that Nick is crazy.

1163
01:09:23,250 --> 01:09:26,375
You got a goal in mind, and

1164
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:29,333
I'm at the end of that goal.

1165
01:09:29,333 --> 01:09:32,625
And if you can get on the other side and

1166
01:09:32,625 --> 01:09:36,791
be victorious, I'll give you a round of applause,

1167
01:09:36,791 --> 01:09:41,333
because I'm not going to not try to be you.

1168
01:09:41,750 --> 01:09:43,750
I don't know how to do it any other way.

1169
01:09:44,041 --> 01:09:48,500
Any day, any place, anyone.

1170
01:09:49,291 --> 01:09:54,875
Do you think it'll be controversial at all that

1171
01:09:54,875 --> 01:09:58,125
I asked you to be my Apollo Creed?

1172
01:09:58,125 --> 01:10:01,916
Considering Carl Weathers is black?

1173
01:10:02,416 --> 01:10:06,583
There's a lot of controversial areas for your idea

1174
01:10:06,583 --> 01:10:09,500
between us, and that could be one of them.

1175
01:10:09,500 --> 01:10:11,208
Me being white and

1176
01:10:11,208 --> 01:10:14,458
And we could do it Christmas, we could do

1177
01:10:14,458 --> 01:10:18,750
it New Year's, we could do it January 1.

1178
01:10:18,750 --> 01:10:21,958
Also. I think something that's controversial between

1179
01:10:21,958 --> 01:10:27,083
us is the MS and me being a hard hitter.

1180
01:10:27,583 --> 01:10:29,416
That's kind of my style.

1181
01:10:29,416 --> 01:10:32,583
We could do it Valentine's Day.

1182
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:35,583
You're going to need your girlfriend to show you some

1183
01:10:35,583 --> 01:10:39,000
love after I put these hands on you anyway so.

1184
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:43,125
And me being a full fledged professional and you

1185
01:10:43,125 --> 01:10:46,916
not being a professional. Any day of the week,

1186
01:10:46,916 --> 01:10:48,791
Mother's Day might not be a good one.

1187
01:10:48,791 --> 01:10:51,041
Your mama won't be too happy with you.

1188
01:10:51,041 --> 01:10:53,958
Respect. I want to help you get what you want, bro.

1189
01:10:53,958 --> 01:10:55,791
You're looking for something deep inside of

1190
01:10:55,791 --> 01:10:57,750
yourself, and that's what fighters do.

1191
01:10:57,958 --> 01:11:00,125
So, you know, dig deep.

1192
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,375
Time for talking is done. It's time to work.

1193
01:11:19,833 --> 01:11:22,416
You get these hands right in your face.

1194
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:39,291
Yeah!

1195
01:11:39,291 --> 01:11:40,500
Is that a good spin?

1196
01:11:40,541 --> 01:11:42,458
You like that spin? High five.

1197
01:11:43,458 --> 01:11:46,583
Yes, that was a good spin. Come on.

1198
01:11:46,583 --> 01:11:50,291
You want to put the cheese on? -Oh, yeah. -Okay.

1199
01:11:50,666 --> 01:11:51,750
Come on up.

1200
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,416
You want to try spin first or no? -Spin. Spin.

1201
01:11:56,708 --> 01:11:58,750
Go ahead, try spin. Just toss it in the air.

1202
01:11:59,291 --> 01:12:02,916
Just go.

1203
01:12:02,916 --> 01:12:04,291
Just go. Use your hands like this.

1204
01:12:04,291 --> 01:12:06,416
Here, put your hand like that. Like this.

1205
01:12:06,416 --> 01:12:08,958
Watch I'll show you. Put your hands like this.

1206
01:12:08,958 --> 01:12:10,041
Like this.

1207
01:12:10,625 --> 01:12:12,375
And then just let him sit on. There you go.

1208
01:12:12,375 --> 01:12:13,541
That's a good spin.

1209
01:12:14,541 --> 01:12:17,541
Ahhhhh!

1210
01:12:18,708 --> 01:12:21,208
Get ready to catch you got to catch it like this.

1211
01:12:21,208 --> 01:12:22,666
Ready? Your fingers don't go through. You ready?

1212
01:12:23,625 --> 01:12:28,625
I'm fighting a losing battle with MS.

1213
01:12:30,416 --> 01:12:36,166
I'm fighting a losing battle with her mother.

1214
01:12:38,041 --> 01:12:44,041
I'm fighting a losing battle against Mike Perry.

1215
01:12:46,125 --> 01:12:51,291
But if all that I accomplish is that one day,

1216
01:12:51,458 --> 01:12:56,750
my Rosebud can say that my dada tried

1217
01:12:56,750 --> 01:13:03,041
his very best. Then I'll have accomplished something.

1218
01:13:13,583 --> 01:13:14,833
Anything is possible.

1219
01:13:14,833 --> 01:13:19,000
And it would be kind of like the cherry on top,

1220
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,833
If you get it done. That would be awesome.

1221
01:13:24,833 --> 01:13:26,625
How many people give up?

1222
01:13:27,333 --> 01:13:32,208
How many people okay, "I can't do that" until you're

1223
01:13:32,250 --> 01:13:34,250
flat on the floor, you just can't get up.

1224
01:13:34,958 --> 01:13:36,083
You keep going.

1225
01:13:36,791 --> 01:13:44,416
That gives a lot of people courage, and that's awesome.

1226
01:13:46,083 --> 01:13:47,916
I guess celebrities sort of

1227
01:13:47,916 --> 01:13:49,625
make their way along, right?

1228
01:13:51,291 --> 01:13:55,000
It's not like every day is full of events for you.

1229
01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:59,583
That day might come and it might not.

1230
01:14:01,958 --> 01:14:03,750
No harm, no foul.

1231
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:05,375
Let's just say it doesn't.

1232
01:14:07,250 --> 01:14:09,500
You keep at it. You keep working out.

1233
01:14:15,541 --> 01:14:19,416
God may intend for you to be a great coach for someone.

1234
01:14:19,416 --> 01:14:20,958
I mean, you don't know, right?

1235
01:14:23,541 --> 01:14:27,916
But with the knowledge you have, the drive you

1236
01:14:27,916 --> 01:14:31,541
have, the enthusiasm you have, the love you have

1237
01:14:31,541 --> 01:14:33,041
oh, my gosh, that's a great motive.

1238
01:14:33,041 --> 01:14:35,083
Those are great motivators for you.

1239
01:14:35,583 --> 01:14:39,833
And I'm amazed you're at this point.

1240
01:14:40,583 --> 01:14:43,291
How many people would have said, okay, no more?

1241
01:14:43,291 --> 01:14:45,000
And how many people have already said to you,

1242
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,250
"you really need to kind of do something else".

1243
01:14:46,250 --> 01:14:47,916
You need to move on to something else. Right.

1244
01:14:48,291 --> 01:14:51,833
Many people try to be discouraging, and you've

1245
01:14:51,833 --> 01:14:56,458
continued because you have confidence in yourself.

1246
01:14:56,458 --> 01:14:58,875
That's good. I think we have to believe in ourselves.

1247
01:15:02,291 --> 01:15:04,541
Again always saying to yourself, like,

1248
01:15:04,541 --> 01:15:06,791
"What's my motivation"? What will I get out of this?

1249
01:15:07,166 --> 01:15:09,041
My daughter will be proud of me.

1250
01:15:09,833 --> 01:15:12,125
I'll have a living. I have to make a living.

1251
01:15:13,333 --> 01:15:15,416
And am I pleasing to God?

1252
01:15:15,541 --> 01:15:19,916
Like, what is it that I'm doing that serves God?

1253
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,708
And everybody, whether they're working at a

1254
01:15:23,708 --> 01:15:26,708
nursing home or a hospital, working out in the fields,

1255
01:15:26,875 --> 01:15:30,375
working on the farm, whatever they're doing, working in

1256
01:15:30,375 --> 01:15:34,583
the gym, working out somehow that can serve God. It can.

1257
01:15:35,041 --> 01:15:37,291
You don't have to feed the whole world.

1258
01:15:37,291 --> 01:15:41,166
Maybe if you feed one person, you may not be

1259
01:15:41,166 --> 01:15:44,083
able to house people, but you could inspire the homeless.

1260
01:15:44,083 --> 01:15:45,875
In other words, not to give up.

1261
01:15:45,875 --> 01:15:47,833
I think your story, Nicholas, is really

1262
01:15:47,833 --> 01:15:50,875
an awesome story about not giving up.

1263
01:15:56,666 --> 01:15:58,083
Lets go!

1264
01:15:58,458 --> 01:16:00,916
Just don't give up.

1265
01:16:16,833 --> 01:16:20,750
Coming to the scales from Toms River, New Jersey,

1266
01:16:20,791 --> 01:16:22,250
with a record of zero and zero,

1267
01:16:22,250 --> 01:16:25,333
"the real life Rocky", Nicholas Zarrillo.

1268
01:16:33,666 --> 01:16:38,500
Weighing in at a 177 pounds.

1269
01:16:39,041 --> 01:16:41,583
Fighting out of Miami Beach, Florida, as well.

1270
01:16:41,583 --> 01:16:44,083
Originally from Flint, Michigan, he fights for the

1271
01:16:44,083 --> 01:16:48,125
UFC Welterweight Division. Record of 14 wins.

1272
01:16:48,125 --> 01:16:49,583
Eleven wins by knockout.

1273
01:16:49,583 --> 01:16:51,583
Seven in the first round.

1274
01:16:51,583 --> 01:16:53,916
Give a big hand for Platinum Mike Perry.

1275
01:16:55,875 --> 01:17:00,291
Weighing in at 190 pounds.

1276
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:03,500
Fighters to the center of the ring.

1277
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,875
You guys know the rules and regulations.

1278
01:17:22,458 --> 01:17:26,000
Ready? Go!

1279
01:18:17,416 --> 01:18:20,708
The moment I realized I'm in a real fight.

1280
01:18:20,916 --> 01:18:23,000
Move and use your jab.

1281
01:18:26,708 --> 01:18:29,208
Fuck. Wow. He's really fucking strong.

1282
01:18:32,458 --> 01:18:34,750
I know your inclination is to slug because you're

1283
01:18:34,750 --> 01:18:37,208
a fucking warrior, but I want you just to box.

1284
01:18:37,625 --> 01:18:40,041
Jab. Jab. Move. Jab. Jab. Move.

1285
01:18:40,041 --> 01:18:41,625
Don't stand in front of this guy.

1286
01:19:50,833 --> 01:19:53,708
Stunned me. Thank God for the bell.

1287
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,708
Can't just sit in the pocket. He'll break your ribs.

1288
01:20:00,708 --> 01:20:02,083
Keep pumping the jab

1289
01:20:02,083 --> 01:20:05,291
You're all heart, but now be all speed. All right?

1290
01:20:44,375 --> 01:20:47,083
That's it. Combinations. Come on. That's it.

1291
01:20:47,083 --> 01:20:48,125
Keep jabbing.

1292
01:20:48,291 --> 01:20:50,083
That's all you got to do! Like that!

1293
01:20:50,708 --> 01:20:53,000
He's too strong! Don't stand right in front of him!

1294
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,291
Box! Yeah! Move! Move!

1295
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:19,583
1. 2. 3. 4.

1296
01:21:23,666 --> 01:21:25,666
I think he's too big for you.

1297
01:21:26,208 --> 01:21:27,708
Five. You got to get up on eight.

1298
01:21:29,208 --> 01:21:32,166
Not many people, Nicholas, get this opportunity.

1299
01:21:43,916 --> 01:21:46,166
This guy fucking hits like a truck.

1300
01:21:49,916 --> 01:21:56,291
Six, seven, eight.

1301
01:21:56,291 --> 01:21:59,250
You all right? Fighters! Ready? Go!

1302
01:22:26,083 --> 01:22:28,500
Damn. That was my best shot.

1303
01:22:38,708 --> 01:22:41,750
He's relentless, but I have to do

1304
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:44,083
something to keep him off me.

1305
01:23:18,041 --> 01:23:20,333
Wow, he's really fucking strong.

1306
01:23:24,083 --> 01:23:26,833
You could be me.

1307
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:35,958
That was your best round.

1308
01:23:42,416 --> 01:23:44,583
Seconds out!

1309
01:24:22,916 --> 01:24:25,750
Keep jabbing. Like that. Keep moving. Keep jabbing.

1310
01:24:27,708 --> 01:24:29,791
Can't stand in one spot with him.

1311
01:25:33,041 --> 01:25:34,250
That hurt.

1312
01:25:35,041 --> 01:25:37,875
Eye of the tiger, Nick. Eye of the tiger.

1313
01:26:08,916 --> 01:26:10,291
30 seconds gentlemen. 30 Seconds.

1314
01:26:13,541 --> 01:26:15,458
You okay buddy? -Yeah.

1315
01:26:20,750 --> 01:26:22,916
Jab. Jab. Move. Jab. Jab. Move.

1316
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,291
NICK GET OFF THE ROPES!

1317
01:28:16,583 --> 01:28:19,583
BREAK! BREAK! BREAK!

1318
01:29:01,875 --> 01:29:03,500
15 seconds. Lets go!

1319
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:21,291
Down.

1320
01:29:23,666 --> 01:29:34,041
One. Two. Three. Four.

1321
01:29:45,208 --> 01:29:49,041
Here. Ready?

1322
01:29:58,500 --> 01:30:02,708
She didn't quit on me, I can't quit on her.

1323
01:30:03,166 --> 01:30:06,166
Dada.

1324
01:30:19,333 --> 01:30:22,000
Just don't give up.

1325
01:30:23,583 --> 01:30:25,291
If you walk away, it's over.

1326
01:30:25,458 --> 01:30:32,125
Six, seven, eight.

1327
01:30:36,166 --> 01:30:38,000
I think that's enough, Nick. -Huh?

1328
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,541
It's enough. It's enough! You proved your point.

1329
01:30:40,541 --> 01:30:42,416
You're a fucking monster. It's enough.

1330
01:30:42,416 --> 01:30:46,083
All right, thats it. -One more.

1331
01:30:53,666 --> 01:30:55,666
Lord Jesus, we ask your blessing

1332
01:30:55,666 --> 01:30:57,250
upon your faithful servant

1333
01:30:57,791 --> 01:31:02,083
as he attempts to serve you in such grand ways.

1334
01:31:02,083 --> 01:31:04,500
Lord, protect him always. Keep him safe.

1335
01:31:05,416 --> 01:31:07,250
Let him know of your intense love for

1336
01:31:07,250 --> 01:31:09,791
him in his success and in his failures.

1337
01:31:10,208 --> 01:31:11,833
Let him know that you're always with

1338
01:31:11,833 --> 01:31:13,750
him and with his beautiful daughter.

1339
01:31:14,208 --> 01:31:15,750
Keep them safe, Lord Jesus.

1340
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:18,708
May he be always, in whatever capacity,

1341
01:31:18,708 --> 01:31:20,625
a wonderful hero to his daughter.

1342
01:31:20,625 --> 01:31:23,125
And, Lord, a wonderful hero for

1343
01:31:23,125 --> 01:31:24,875
you in spreading your name.

1344
01:31:24,875 --> 01:31:28,458
In the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.

1345
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:29,333
Amen.

1346
01:31:33,083 --> 01:31:36,875
Gloves. Go!

1347
01:32:06,541 --> 01:32:10,208
Keep jabbing while you're moving. Keep moving.

1348
01:33:50,625 --> 01:33:57,041
It's been almost five years now since I got diagnosed.

1349
01:34:04,291 --> 01:34:10,083
Man, I was headed towards a dark place, and

1350
01:34:11,708 --> 01:34:14,083
then these guys helped me out right here.

1351
01:34:14,083 --> 01:34:18,750
Dino, Guy, Big Mike. He helped me out in

1352
01:34:18,750 --> 01:34:20,666
a different way, but he helped me out.

1353
01:34:21,041 --> 01:34:29,083
I did this whole journey because of my daughter,

1354
01:34:29,916 --> 01:34:31,958
you know, me and her mother split up, and

1355
01:34:33,375 --> 01:34:34,875
I don't get to see her a lot.

1356
01:34:34,875 --> 01:34:38,333
So this was my way of fighting back.

1357
01:34:38,666 --> 01:34:42,125
And I owe a lot of gratitude

1358
01:34:42,125 --> 01:34:46,625
to, Dino, Guy, Big Mike.

1359
01:34:48,750 --> 01:34:50,791
You're just getting started.

1360
01:34:51,083 --> 01:34:55,291
This is just this five year journey just started today.

1361
01:34:55,291 --> 01:34:57,666
There's a whole new thing ahead of you so.

1362
01:34:57,666 --> 01:34:59,541
That's fighting. You know what I mean?

1363
01:35:11,916 --> 01:35:13,458
I have a son now.

1364
01:35:13,458 --> 01:35:16,166
I have a kid now. Little baby. Thank you, brother.

1365
01:35:16,166 --> 01:35:19,958
So I know now what they say when their

1366
01:35:19,958 --> 01:35:23,416
parents are always like, it's the craziest feeling.

1367
01:35:23,750 --> 01:35:26,625
I finally have the little dude in my hands,

1368
01:35:26,625 --> 01:35:29,083
and me and his mom are taking care of

1369
01:35:29,083 --> 01:35:32,500
him, and it's just a whole new motivation that's

1370
01:35:32,500 --> 01:35:34,375
different than you know what I mean?

1371
01:35:34,375 --> 01:35:37,875
So I came in here, and I fought today, and you fought

1372
01:35:37,875 --> 01:35:40,791
one of the best fighters in the world today, period.

1373
01:35:40,791 --> 01:35:43,625
And you went, like, nine or ten rounds.

1374
01:35:43,916 --> 01:35:45,291
You know what I mean?

1375
01:35:45,291 --> 01:35:48,583
Thank you, brother, for showing us all what heart means.

1376
01:35:48,583 --> 01:35:49,500
Thank you.

1377
01:35:52,958 --> 01:35:57,000
You know, also, with MS, there'll be better days ahead,

1378
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:58,583
Yeah. and you'll be back in the game so.

1379
01:36:02,666 --> 01:36:05,958
Thank you Dino for allowing me to take this

1380
01:36:06,625 --> 01:36:12,166
crazy, risky, five year journey.

1381
01:36:12,458 --> 01:36:13,791
There's two types of people in the world.

1382
01:36:13,791 --> 01:36:15,666
There's people that actually step in the ring and

1383
01:36:15,666 --> 01:36:17,416
fight, and then there's the rest of the world.

1384
01:36:17,416 --> 01:36:19,333
And now you've separated yourself from everybody

1385
01:36:19,333 --> 01:36:21,625
else, and that's a big, big deal.

1386
01:36:21,625 --> 01:36:24,291
It's a tiny, tiny percentage of you guys that

1387
01:36:24,291 --> 01:36:26,291
are willing to make that commitment and that level

1388
01:36:26,291 --> 01:36:28,916
and then put cameras on yourself and expose yourself

1389
01:36:28,916 --> 01:36:30,958
and let everyone see what you're made out of.

1390
01:36:30,958 --> 01:36:33,166
That's a special, special individual.

1391
01:36:33,166 --> 01:36:36,291
And now you've put yourself in that small, selective

1392
01:36:36,291 --> 01:36:39,250
group, and everyone obviously is super proud of you.

1393
01:36:39,250 --> 01:36:41,791
Yeah. A couple of days a month, but it's never enough.

1394
01:36:41,791 --> 01:36:45,541
No, relish that Nicholas.

1395
01:36:45,541 --> 01:36:48,666
Take every minute, every hour, and just

1396
01:36:49,833 --> 01:36:52,833
make it the best for her.

1397
01:36:52,833 --> 01:36:56,541
It can just be a day on the couch, and so it

1398
01:36:56,541 --> 01:37:00,250
may not be a lot of days, but, you know, allow her

1399
01:37:00,250 --> 01:37:04,000
to be proud of you as girls are to their dads.

1400
01:37:04,375 --> 01:37:07,583
You take the challenges that befall

1401
01:37:07,583 --> 01:37:10,458
you, and you still are strong.

1402
01:37:10,833 --> 01:37:12,708
How many people give up?

1403
01:37:13,333 --> 01:37:16,708
How many people okay, I can't do that.

1404
01:37:17,500 --> 01:37:19,000
Until you're flat on the floor.

1405
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:20,333
You just can't get up.

1406
01:37:20,916 --> 01:37:22,166
You keep going.

1407
01:37:22,833 --> 01:37:25,458
That gives a lot of people courage.

1408
01:37:25,875 --> 01:37:28,166
Thank you for the fight, brother. It was a pleasure.

1409
01:37:28,166 --> 01:37:31,208
Thank you so much for being my story's Apollo Creed.

1410
01:37:31,500 --> 01:37:34,500
Like I said, day one. This is day one. -It's day one.

1411
01:37:34,541 --> 01:37:37,791
To our future, bro, and we got endless possibilities.

1412
01:37:37,791 --> 01:37:40,750
I am not quitting after this. -Lets go brother! No sir.