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[men grunting]

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My name is Nicolas Winding Refn,
and I'm the creator of <i>Copenhagen Cowboy.</i>

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Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang!

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[in Danish, crying] I can't…

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[in English] This is not a making of…

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but more of an insight

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on how the Cowboy fell asleep
and woke up in Copenhagen.

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[man, in Danish] Three, two, one… Go!

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[both grunting]

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I would describe <i>Copenhagen Cowboy</i>
as fantasy, horror and adventurous.

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The name already tells something.

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It's a… [chuckles]

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You cannot find words to make sense
of <i>Copenhagen Cowboy.</i> What is it?

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You know, Copenhagen, modern city.

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And cowboy from old western style.

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How do you combine
those two things together?

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It's already amazing there.

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I think it's very colorful, very potent,

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and very raw at the same time.

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And we definitely, kind of, have
horror elements and fairy tale elements.

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[dreamy electronic music playing]

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The original pitch was,

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I'm going to do an extension
of the <i>Pusher</i> trilogy.

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And everyone said,
"Great, let's go do it."

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But there was going to be a spaceship.

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I would say
the story of <i>Copenhagen Cowboy,</i>

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on paper, was about a young woman

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who transforms through a series
to become a superhero.

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It's like this, well, fairy tale-like

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underworld of Copenhagen or Denmark.

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It's certainly not the Denmark we know.

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-[Algren] No.
-It's a world that transcends realism.

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[Algren] This is Miu's world.

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So you are brought along and down deep

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into the underworld of Denmark
through Miu's journey.

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[Refn, in Danish]
Sit up there. And the table…

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We'll get a small chair for you.
Didn't you have a similar one?

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[in English] I thought it could be fun,
if I had come back to Denmark,

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I would create,
like, a fairy tale narrative.

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So I hired a great group
of female writers.

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I think the reason
why we looked at fairy tales,

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and Greek mythology,
and Shakespearean dramas

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might be because
they all have this concept of fate,

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because we wanted with Miu
to also have this feeling of…

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there is an element of fate.

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-Mm.
-That she was born to do something.

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-Mm.
-Um, if she was even born.

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[woman, in Danish] Where do you come from?

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[in Danish] That's a long story.

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[in English]
I started with first, the title.

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I said "Cowboy,"

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and then "Copenhagen."

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And those became "CC."

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It was like two contrasting
components together,

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but they flowed very well on the tongue,

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and it became enigmatic
of what it actually was,

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which was exciting to me.

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What would I make that
my kids would find interesting?

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And that became Miu.

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I wanted to resurrect the kind of
alter ego that I had created with,

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you know, Mads Mikkelsen and Ryan Gosling,

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and retire on my previous films
to create a show,

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a character that
was an extension of myself.

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But as a young woman would reflect more

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of a role model for my children.

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And I knew that
the protagonist of the show

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had to start off as a young woman.

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And there's definitely a need
for these female heroes.

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And we had
an ongoing discussion about that.

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Um, and it's like when you
create this kind of character,

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um, who's mysterious and very driven,

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and might use violence
to attain his or her goals.

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If it's a man,
I guess we easily accept that,

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and don't ask that many questions.

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But when it's a female, we're like,

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oh, what's, like,
the psychological explanation?

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What traumas did she go through
to become like that?

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And we kind of wanted
to challenge these limitations

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of the female hero,
and what she could be like.

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[Algren] That was also Jang's,
kind of, concept of a cowboy.

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He was very much challenging,
also, our views on a female character

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having a backstory and everything,
and he was like,

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"This is a cowboy just entering the scene,

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arriving at a new town
and doing his thing."

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-And that was super cool…
-Yeah.

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…to explore with her.

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Miu is sort of…
She's just a very physical person.

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It's very much a state to be in, in Miu.

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You have to stay in that state.

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It's almost like you're sleeping,
and it's like she doesn't speak so much.

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She stands.

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She observes a lot, and then she moves.

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And so, it fits a lot to be

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in sort of that between state.

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I'm very there,
but I'm also in another place.

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Well, I'm a very superstitious person.

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And I have contacts
with extraterrestrials through my work,

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that I regularly speak with.

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So it was very natural for me
to bring that into the process.

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I always knew that the Miu character

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and her so-called sister, Rakel,

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would essentially come
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I just had to figure out
how I interpreted it into the story.

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I really like and I really respect
Jang's choice to do a lot of,

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what would you call it,
maybe like street casting,

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or just to take people in who are
pure and natural in some sense,

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because they're just who they are.

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They're not actors.

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The way I would cast it was,
one of the few elements that I took

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from my <i>Pusher</i> trilogy,
where I would cast,

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you know, reality,

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or seek outwards to find more.

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What I found interesting,
most of the time, they were untouched.

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They were pure. They were original.

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People who are really
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standing actually
in front of the real deal.

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You have the real…

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uh, like, the people who know
the real environments,

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but it's also a fairy tale
where they're a little bit twisted,

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and I think that makes it
even more interesting

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than if it had just been one to one.

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[in Danish] Bang! That's the first one.

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Here.

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Bang!

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And then again. Without you knowing it.

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But you have got used to it.
So it doesn't matter.

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-The last one is just…
-[man] Are you ready?

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Yes, that's good.

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[in English] I was street casted
for <i>Pusher 3.</i>

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And then I begin to act,
and there was more of it.

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And I feel like, you know,
I found something that I love to do.

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The way that he made it,
that he street casted people,

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he got something original.

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If you play a role that is near
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then, of course,
it's easier for you to play it.

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But he was very good at, uh…

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As in when we started,
he was really, you know, like,

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"Hey, Dan, you know,
you don't have to show me

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all these TV things
you have learned, you know.

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I want you to be yourself,
cool and relaxed."

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And then after that, I was,
yeah, you know, I feel good.

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And I found my character.

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He told me that…

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He said, "Hey, Dan,
you are good at this shit."

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I think, Jang,
he was opening up my eyes,

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and I was like, "Hey, man, maybe I am.
Maybe he's right. Maybe I'm good at this."

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So he was changing my life, yeah.

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Since I was a child, I was fighting
for my life, you know, by myself.

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Every day I came from school,
I have a lot of bruises in my face.

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My pants was destroyed.

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But I didn't want to tell my mom,

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so she thought

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I was maybe too wild, you know.

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When I'm 14 years,
I was living on the street.

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In the school break,
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because I knew outside there was

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a queue of people
that wanted to fight me.

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I saw a Bruce Lee movie.

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From that day,
I knew what I'm going to do.

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I do all this kicking
because I saw this on the movie,

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I exercised every day, you know.

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I never think I'm going
to be a big movie star.

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It's like…

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It was a dream, you know. It feels good.

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Now I can be my own Bruce Lee.

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[whirring, buzzing]

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When I met Jason,
the only thing I thought,

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"My God, he was built
for cinema with that face."

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He was like a beautiful version
of Quasimodo.

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And he had these techniques

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of fighting and brutality like a panther.

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And yet, he was gentle
and kind, like a butterfly.

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And that combination already
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he created the character
of Mr. Chiang right in front of me.

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And I just followed along the way.

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I just looked back
and then played myself when I was young.

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I've always had an open mindset
on putting all my chips on something new.

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So, yeah, it's not the first time
that I just went out and did something mad

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that I didn't know anything about,

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but I just wanted to go 100% on it.

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I got the opportunity to try out

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playing as an actor with my role, Nicklas.

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And at that time,
I really did not enjoy where I was.

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So I decided to say "Fuck it,"
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Within two weeks or something like that,

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I've gotten the job and started filming.

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So, it was a quick decision
of just saying yes and just trying it out.

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[in Danish] All the girls…

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The nice girls in the bar,

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they want you,

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and they want to be eaten
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[in English] He had that incredible face,
so it was automatically him.

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There was an enormous amount
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that I think could be channeled
in a very effective and inspiring way

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through creativity,
which is certainly what acting is.

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It's a creative process.

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It's been absolutely incredible.

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It's been a very fun experience,
so it's been giving me a lot of good times

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that I will remember
for the rest of my life.

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[in Danish] Here, a cut to this,

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where she is kicking him away,

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and then kicks him over.

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[Jørgensen] Thank you, all,

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for this great experience and cooperation.

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[in English] We did have some meetings
in the writers' room,

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with some of these actors
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who could also correct
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where they would use different words.

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[in Danish] Bang, bang, bang!
And then you turn around.

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From there you can…

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[in English] I have
no acting experience whatsoever.

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It was the second casting,
and she was like, "Yeah, don't hold back."

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And I was like, "Are you sure?"

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And she was like, "Yeah,
just give me all you got." [chuckles]

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And I was like, "All right."

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And then she started…
She asked me something.

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And I was like, "Yeah!"

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Bah bah bah bah bah bah bah!

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And I was really shouting my lungs out.

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And after… I looked at her,
and she was so calm, she was like,

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"You did good." [chuckles]

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[gunshots firing]

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[exclaiming]

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When I read the script,
I think I am Mother Hulda.

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I just got the feeling.

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I have to practice because I was
not educated like an actor.

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I don't have the education in this branch.

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I am also a single mum to a son.

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So I got that feeling,
"Okay, if my son was taken away,

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how do I feel?"

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So the tears just came out.
So I got the feeling that I can play her.

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I think I understand her.

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[sniffles]

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I met Nicolas the first time
in the summer of '95.

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It was the casting for <i>Pusher.</i>

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We start to talk very openly,

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stuff like the street life,

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the dope experience,
and immigrants, milieu.

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So, this moment when I met Nicolas,

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it was important for me in my life.

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[Refn, in Danish] Zlatko knows that.
He's very experienced.

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[in English] We have a past,
me and Zlatko.

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All right.

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[in Danish] But you're a lucky coin.

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[in English] I don't thrive on taking
a chance on people,

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but I know that if you can
come in a situation

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where performers that have not
a lot of experience with them,

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to let their guards down
and be 100% themselves,

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you mostly touch magic.

252
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My dad is a weird dude.

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He thinks in film.

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He has his work and he has his family.

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We are a team, in a way.

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He was very much dependent on me,
because otherwise, he couldn't go away

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and work for ten months and do <i>Drive,</i> or…

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So it's been like
a collaboration, in a way.

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Like, how do we do this?

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Like, for instance,
with <i>Only God Forgives,</i>

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we moved to Bangkok for six months,
and Lola went to school there and like…

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He's a very family-oriented guy.

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But, you know, Liv has just
been reading the scripts,

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and me and my sister have been
kind of not really involved

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with what his work has been up to.

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So I think he's always used
to looking outwards

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and finding people outside of his family,

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compared to this time,
where he kind of looked inward

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and saw what the family could do.

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You know, even my sister
is participating in the show.

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So I think that's also kind of
a fun little family trip.

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[Liv] I just feel like I'm always
a part of his work, in a way,

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even though I'm not always

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on the set every day.

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Then the whole developing
of the scripts he talked to me about,

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like, maybe a character,
or I read the scripts.

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I mean, it's always nice to film
with someone that you're close to

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and have a good relationship with.

279
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But sometimes I'm like, "I got this.

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I can do this on my own, you know.

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You don't need to be
screaming in my ear."

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But you know, it helps
with her anger coming out.

283
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So I guess it works both ways.

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[in Danish] More!

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[grunts]

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And… Scream!

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[imperceptible]

288
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That was really good, honey.

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That was good.
We'll take it one more time, angry again.

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[in English] I never thought
it was going to be her.

291
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It wasn't so much on my radar.

292
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But as I had the idea for the character
very late in the process,

293
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we were almost near the end of shooting…

294
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And there had been a coffin on set
in Nicklas's estate,

295
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that I thought was a really cool prop,
and I kept on bringing it back

296
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every time we were shooting there,
until one day I was like,

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"Maybe we should
put somebody in the coffin."

298
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"What if he has a sister?"

299
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No, it should be a stepsister,
because then we can have

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more interpretation, because
she's actually part of the Miu world.

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And that got the ball rolling.

302
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And so, we were casting,
and I wasn't necessarily

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getting what I was looking for outwards,

304
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until I think Liv said,
"Well, maybe it's because

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it's right in front of you,
if you really think about it."

306
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And obviously casting your
family members is an intimate process.

307
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What if it doesn't work?

308
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So I tricked her by casting her
without her knowing it,

309
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while she was doing homework,

310
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because she was
in her finals in high school.

311
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And he came in one day,

312
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and since my mom
had been helping on the show,

313
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I just thought he wanted my help
to see an outside view of someone

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who does… have no idea what's going on.

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I went out to the kitchen.

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I said, "Can you please say these lines?"

317
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And she's like, "Why?"

318
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I say, "Can you say the goddamn lines?"

319
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She's like, "Why?"
I said, "Just say the lines."

320
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And she's like,
"Fine, I'll say the lines."

321
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And I acted out a couple of lines,
which was Rakel's lines.

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And he was like, "Great, thanks."
And I was like, "You're welcome."

323
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And she said it with such conviction,
and clarity, and natural… that I was like,

324
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maybe, in a way, I had already created
Rakel as a kind of rebellious version

325
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of what I had at home,
which was a 19-year-old daughter.

326
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And the next day he was like,

327
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"Well, you know,
I really liked you for the part."

328
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"Would you want to play her?"

329
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And I was like, "Sure, why not?"

330
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"See what happens."

331
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[mysterious music playing]

332
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I'm a fetish personality.

333
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,880
I like fetish.

334
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,240
I like detail. I like attention to detail.

335
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,480
And fashion is part of that.

336
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,840
Fashion is also… You know,
revolutionary fashion is an extension.

337
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,520
Fashion is a mirror into who you are.

338
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:43,520
Yeah, Miu is very much
wearing a sort of a suit,

339
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,000
sort of an armor for her.

340
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,200
Nicolas was very clear from the beginning
that he wanted a tracksuit.

341
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,480
It's something everyone is familiar with.

342
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,160
It's armor, in a way.
It's a piece of utility clothing.

343
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:05,440
It's built to last, built to be durable,
um, built to withstand the elements.

344
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,960
But mainly the protective aspect of it,
I thought was very interesting.

345
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,320
I think I took a few more risks,
or a lot more risks this time,

346
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because it's very diverse.

347
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,400
Generally, just researching
women throughout history

348
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:23,560
who have in some ways been fighting

349
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,360
on the path of right, if you like.

350
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Almost like, it's a kind of quest.

351
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,680
So I found looking
at Joan of Arc quite helpful,

352
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in how she looked with the short hair
and the armor that she wore.

353
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,160
And tried to adapt that into sportswear

354
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or something that could also be perceived

355
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,840
in a contemporary situation,
like a coat, or a puffer vest,

356
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or a track suit.

357
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[mellow music playing]

358
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,000
[indistinct chatter]

359
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:13,120
Normally, we didn't plan very much.
It was very much working as a process.

360
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,160
Developing as the script
would develop and change, we would adjust.

361
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,800
We ended up doing a big flower makeup

362
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for a dream sequence that Miu had.

363
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,280
We've been shooting in this mansion house,

364
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:29,760
and there was all these beautiful flowers
that we used on set.

365
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,480
And the set designer was taking them away

366
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,120
and they were standing outside,

367
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,920
and I just thought, "Do you mind
if I grab some of these flowers?

368
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,320
I'd like to… I don't know
what I'm going to use them for,

369
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,040
but I'm just going to put them
in my William Blake book."

370
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,400
Then one day, Nicolas asked me,

371
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,640
"Can you make Miu
into some sort of demon?

372
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,720
She's having this dream sequence,

373
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,240
and she's standing up
against this wallpaper with flowers.

374
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,120
Maybe you can be inspired by that."

375
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,720
Everyone knows he's obsessed with movies.

376
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,640
I don't think that's a secret,
and his brain just never stops.

377
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,640
So when we're in the car,
and even on set, he plays music.

378
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,320
And he plays different music
to get different feelings

379
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,080
out of the different characters,

380
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,320
and I think music is a big part
of him relaxing and being able to think.

381
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,920
Music is, you know, heals and it inspires.

382
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,800
By choosing a piece of music
for a specific day or a scene,

383
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,200
not just helps the actors,
but it helps the crew.

384
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,240
It helps the cameraman.

385
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,600
It helps the designers.

386
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,120
It helps the make-up.

387
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,600
It helps everyone.

388
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,720
I could also sense that
sometimes if I would lose it,

389
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,280
then Jang would just know
that he has to play a song

390
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,080
to remind those senses.

391
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,200
He quickly found out
that I am very fond of classical music.

392
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,800
So we've been listening to quite a lot
of classical music to set me in the mood.

393
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,960
And I react quite a lot to music.

394
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,240
And so that's been very helpful
to set me in a very grim mood.

395
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,880
[imperceptible]

396
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,840
Since it's my first acting job,

397
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,720
it was fairly new to me,
but I actually really like it.

398
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,400
Now, I don't think I can do without it.

399
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,240
Because it kind of…
I mean, it depends what you play,

400
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,800
but it, you know, kind of,
gets different feelings out in you.

401
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,800
So we would play a lot of music,
and it would either be kind of

402
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,640
horror-themed music,
or if it was like a sad scene,

403
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,400
or something else to kind of ease you

404
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,320
to get in the mood,
to make your feelings move a little bit.

405
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,520
[in Danish] You've been a naughty boy.

406
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,720
[in English] Nicolas is good at painting
you a picture before you start the music.

407
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,920
And sometimes, he'll have two things
that are at odds with each other,

408
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,400
and that's exciting,

409
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,400
because something happens there.

410
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,920
He can mention a group
and then a movie,

411
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,360
and these two things
have nothing to do with each other.

412
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,680
You get something
that's never heard before.

413
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,200
We don't score characters.

414
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,600
We do it by shapes and colors.

415
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,320
You score the darkness
and you score the light.

416
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,600
And sometimes, you score
a little light in the darkness.

417
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,320
[dramatic music playing]

418
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,040
Whenever I'm done with something,
I exorcise it from my existence.

419
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,000
And it kind of no longer
really exists anymore.

420
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,280
It's now in the hands of billions
of people on the Internet to…

421
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:17,120
react to.

422
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,480
[mellow music playing]



