1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:31,198 --> 00:00:33,033 [Randy] Do my kids think I'm-- yeah. 4 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,035 I mean everybody in the family thinks I'm nuts. 5 00:00:35,161 --> 00:00:37,163 Of course, I'm nuts. I go to genealogy conferences. 6 00:00:37,288 --> 00:00:39,165 So they-- they have these conferences and I always joke 7 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:41,167 that there are just two types of people at the conference. 8 00:00:41,292 --> 00:00:43,669 There are the people who know they're crazy 9 00:00:43,794 --> 00:00:45,671 and the people who have no idea that they're crazy. 10 00:00:45,796 --> 00:00:47,798 I at least know I'm crazy. 11 00:00:48,257 --> 00:00:50,551 {\an8}[upbeat music playing] 12 00:01:07,318 --> 00:01:10,321 [Randy] Genealogy's a kids task in school, right? 13 00:01:10,446 --> 00:01:12,406 You get an assignment, go do your family tree. 14 00:01:12,531 --> 00:01:15,284 And most people have like a little tiny family tree. 15 00:01:15,409 --> 00:01:18,913 And I was eight years old and my mom's mom knew 16 00:01:19,038 --> 00:01:21,791 a lot about her family and gave me a number of generations 17 00:01:21,916 --> 00:01:24,585 back and-- and had this huge tree on my mom's side. 18 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:28,047 And then on my dad's side, it was 1974 and there 19 00:01:28,172 --> 00:01:29,965 was some new books that were published 20 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,426 just that year for my grandfather's centennial. 21 00:01:32,551 --> 00:01:35,513 So I came back to school and I had this enormous family tree. 22 00:01:35,638 --> 00:01:38,182 And you know how it is in school when, like, when you're 23 00:01:38,307 --> 00:01:40,643 better at something than other people, that becomes your thing. 24 00:01:40,768 --> 00:01:42,603 So like genealogy became my thing. 25 00:01:42,728 --> 00:01:44,814 I wish it had been baseball or basketball 26 00:01:44,939 --> 00:01:46,190 or something more fun. 27 00:01:46,315 --> 00:01:47,399 And that's how it started. 28 00:01:50,236 --> 00:01:55,282 ♪ 29 00:02:00,162 --> 00:02:01,288 How can I help you? 30 00:02:01,747 --> 00:02:03,833 Uh, I'm looking for someplace to stay. 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,216 Passport and visa, please. 32 00:02:14,885 --> 00:02:16,720 [sentimental music playing] 33 00:02:29,984 --> 00:02:32,361 [Randy] I always have been interested in memory. 34 00:02:32,486 --> 00:02:35,322 That there's a future and a past and a present. 35 00:02:35,447 --> 00:02:37,074 I think a lot of times we're stuck in 36 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:39,034 our present, but to realize that you're 37 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:42,329 part of this continuum of history is eye-opening. 38 00:03:14,862 --> 00:03:17,448 It's very moving to be in the city 39 00:03:17,573 --> 00:03:19,575 where my family lived for hundreds of years. 40 00:03:20,034 --> 00:03:22,453 Just to imagine that they were here 41 00:03:22,578 --> 00:03:24,872 like I'm here now in this very space, 42 00:03:24,997 --> 00:03:27,958 it's just something that doesn't happen so much where I come 43 00:03:28,083 --> 00:03:30,544 from in Los Angeles, but I get that feeling here. 44 00:03:42,348 --> 00:03:45,142 [jazz music playing] 45 00:03:47,269 --> 00:03:50,606 {\an8}[Randy] I've been married for 25 years and we have three kids. 46 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:53,192 {\an8} Uh, Dora who's 24, 47 00:03:53,984 --> 00:03:57,029 {\an8} and Nathan who's 21, almost 22. 48 00:03:57,529 --> 00:03:59,907 You can see it sort of trickling through a little bit. 49 00:04:00,032 --> 00:04:03,452 Dora with her work, Remember Us, which is this group that pairs 50 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:07,164 up kids having bar/bat mitzvahs with victims of the Holocaust. 51 00:04:09,416 --> 00:04:11,794 [upbeat jazz music playing] 52 00:04:16,715 --> 00:04:21,762 ♪ 53 00:04:32,106 --> 00:04:33,899 [Randy] And Joey's just, you know, starting out. 54 00:04:34,024 --> 00:04:35,651 He's been looking forward, I think, to the rest 55 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:37,820 of his life, learning to be a chef. 56 00:04:40,739 --> 00:04:44,034 We've lived in this house for, well, 57 00:04:44,159 --> 00:04:47,663 since 2005 and we're very happy here. 58 00:04:49,915 --> 00:04:55,004 Pam, my wife, had a photography gallery for a long time. 59 00:04:56,797 --> 00:04:59,258 [upbeat jazz music] 60 00:05:21,697 --> 00:05:23,407 Just go around but like alternate 61 00:05:23,532 --> 00:05:25,242 between the apples and the beets. 62 00:05:37,046 --> 00:05:38,589 Well, you were reaching first, you pass. 63 00:05:38,714 --> 00:05:40,507 Where does this tablecloth come from? 64 00:05:40,632 --> 00:05:42,259 I know. Where did-- where did you find the tablecloth? 65 00:05:42,384 --> 00:05:43,802 Upstairs. 66 00:05:43,927 --> 00:05:45,304 You have to pour the sauce onto the-- 67 00:05:45,429 --> 00:05:46,847 [Randy] No, first I have to give a toast 'cause 68 00:05:46,972 --> 00:05:48,474 I'm about to leave for Vienna. 69 00:05:48,599 --> 00:05:50,976 And then Joey's gonna come meet me. 70 00:05:51,101 --> 00:05:53,103 First to the Schoenberg Center for 71 00:05:53,228 --> 00:05:54,938 the board meeting that I have there. 72 00:05:55,064 --> 00:05:58,484 And then I'm gonna drag him along on a roots trip. 73 00:05:58,609 --> 00:06:01,445 Keep going and try to find out how far I can go back. 74 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:03,113 So that's-- that's the plan. 75 00:06:03,238 --> 00:06:04,698 It's either that or going to school. 76 00:06:04,823 --> 00:06:06,742 - [Joey] Okay. - [Randy] Okay. 77 00:06:06,867 --> 00:06:08,410 So the end of your senior year. 78 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:09,912 - [Joey] Dad, shut up. - So, okay, so there you are. 79 00:06:10,037 --> 00:06:11,538 Anyway, cheers, uh, everybody, 80 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,916 and thank you, Joey, for this amazing dinner. 81 00:06:14,041 --> 00:06:16,752 [Joey] Well, my dad decided to take this trip 82 00:06:16,877 --> 00:06:20,380 throughout Europe to find graves and family members. 83 00:06:20,506 --> 00:06:23,675 And my sister was having surgery in a couple weeks 84 00:06:23,801 --> 00:06:26,845 and Nathan had missed a couple semesters 85 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:29,598 in the past and so I was the last one left. 86 00:06:32,101 --> 00:06:33,811 [music ends] 87 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:37,147 [Randy] You can have that sort of out of body experience 88 00:06:37,272 --> 00:06:39,983 and you have chills because you have that instant connection. 89 00:06:40,109 --> 00:06:42,444 You're in the place where your family was 90 00:06:42,569 --> 00:06:44,530 being back there 500 years earlier. 91 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,366 [tires screeching] 92 00:06:50,786 --> 00:06:53,163 {\an8} When you then extend and are able to go back 93 00:06:53,288 --> 00:06:55,207 {\an8} 500 years, you realize it's not just 94 00:06:55,332 --> 00:06:59,086 {\an8} a single family story, it's a people. 95 00:06:59,211 --> 00:07:01,130 We're part of this larger mosaic. 96 00:07:01,922 --> 00:07:03,841 That's the feeling I get when I look at it. 97 00:07:04,675 --> 00:07:07,386 [sentimental music playing] 98 00:07:16,645 --> 00:07:18,564 {\an8} I was very instrumental in helping 99 00:07:18,689 --> 00:07:20,732 {\an8} to set up the Schoenberg Center when 100 00:07:20,858 --> 00:07:22,860 it moved from University of Southern California to Vienna. 101 00:07:22,985 --> 00:07:24,778 And now I'm on the board. 102 00:07:24,903 --> 00:07:26,530 And so I'm interested in 103 00:07:26,655 --> 00:07:28,699 making sure that it lasts into the future 104 00:07:28,824 --> 00:07:31,368 and still accomplishes what it was designed to accomplish, 105 00:07:31,493 --> 00:07:33,370 which is to preserve my grandfather's legacy 106 00:07:33,495 --> 00:07:35,247 and make it accessible to the public in-- 107 00:07:35,372 --> 00:07:36,874 in the best possible way. 108 00:07:42,379 --> 00:07:44,756 Sometimes it's terrific to be a Schoenberg 109 00:07:44,882 --> 00:07:46,758 and to be connected to all these things. 110 00:07:46,884 --> 00:07:48,635 And other times you get attention that you don't deserve 111 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,262 'cause your grandfather's famous 112 00:07:50,387 --> 00:07:51,889 or your great-grandfather's famous. 113 00:07:52,014 --> 00:07:53,599 So yeah. Now I get that. 114 00:07:59,521 --> 00:08:02,316 {\an8}[classical piano music playing] 115 00:08:15,454 --> 00:08:17,164 [Randy] My maternal grandmother, 116 00:08:17,289 --> 00:08:20,167 her grandparents were married in the 1880s 117 00:08:20,292 --> 00:08:22,461 and when I went for the first time 118 00:08:22,586 --> 00:08:24,254 and looked at the actual record books 119 00:08:24,379 --> 00:08:26,256 from Max and Clementina Schwartz, 120 00:08:26,381 --> 00:08:29,176 I saw that the very next entry was his younger brother. 121 00:08:29,301 --> 00:08:31,011 It was actually two brothers got married on 122 00:08:31,136 --> 00:08:32,971 the same day in this synagogue. 123 00:08:34,848 --> 00:08:38,227 That was a hundred, uh, 40 years ago. 124 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:45,067 The Seitenstettengasse synagogue's the only synagogue 125 00:08:45,192 --> 00:08:48,403 that still exists in Vienna from the time before the Nazis. 126 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:51,114 And that's because, on November 9th, 1938, 127 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,742 there was the famous Kristallnacht pogrom. 128 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:55,619 Nazis all over the city, 129 00:08:55,744 --> 00:08:58,163 went around and burned every other synagogue. 130 00:08:58,288 --> 00:09:00,749 The story is that the fire marshal came and stopped 131 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:03,001 the Nazis from burning this down because he said, 132 00:09:03,126 --> 00:09:04,461 "If you burn this down, 133 00:09:04,586 --> 00:09:06,088 you're gonna burn down the church next door." 134 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:13,470 It's the last one left. 135 00:09:13,595 --> 00:09:16,848 It's the last remnant of that one great Jewish community 136 00:09:16,974 --> 00:09:20,686 that was 200,000 Jews, really one of the largest 137 00:09:20,811 --> 00:09:22,312 and also one of the most important 138 00:09:22,437 --> 00:09:24,147 Jewish communities in the world. 139 00:09:24,273 --> 00:09:27,025 And our family played such a huge part in that 140 00:09:27,150 --> 00:09:29,486 until the Nazis came and took everything away. 141 00:09:29,611 --> 00:09:33,657 But this synagogue, it's just a reminder of that splendor. 142 00:09:39,663 --> 00:09:41,206 I just feel very attached to the city. 143 00:09:41,331 --> 00:09:42,958 Some people ask why you're Jewish? 144 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:44,835 How can you like Austria? 145 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,712 How can you like Vienna after everything that happened? 146 00:09:48,088 --> 00:09:51,258 And I just remember my grandmother 147 00:09:51,383 --> 00:09:53,343 saying when she came back with us one time, 148 00:09:53,468 --> 00:09:56,513 she said, you know, she-- she loved Austria 149 00:09:56,638 --> 00:09:58,974 and she would never let the Nazis take that away from her. 150 00:09:59,099 --> 00:10:01,560 And so I guess I feel that a little bit too. 151 00:10:09,443 --> 00:10:13,322 {\an8}[Dora] What I do is when kids have bar/bat mitzvahs, 152 00:10:13,447 --> 00:10:15,157 {\an8}sometimes they wanna remember a child 153 00:10:15,282 --> 00:10:17,576 {\an8}who didn't get to bar/bat mitzvah age 154 00:10:17,701 --> 00:10:19,578 {\an8}because they were killed in the Holocaust. 155 00:10:19,703 --> 00:10:22,748 {\an8}And so they submit a request on our website 156 00:10:22,873 --> 00:10:25,792 {\an8}and I go through and do research on Yad Vashem. 157 00:10:25,917 --> 00:10:28,211 So it's really important that we make connections 158 00:10:28,337 --> 00:10:30,213 with rabbis and synagogues. 159 00:10:30,339 --> 00:10:31,631 I think that that's a gift 160 00:10:31,757 --> 00:10:33,258 that you're giving to other people. 161 00:10:33,383 --> 00:10:35,427 The greatest tragedies are actually the-- 162 00:10:35,552 --> 00:10:38,347 the people who have nobody left to remember them. 163 00:10:38,472 --> 00:10:41,475 A person dies multiple times. 164 00:10:42,684 --> 00:10:45,145 They die when their life physically ends. 165 00:10:47,105 --> 00:10:50,692 They also die the very last time that they're ever remembered. 166 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:55,197 And it's up to us as a Jewish people to make sure 167 00:10:55,322 --> 00:10:58,200 that all of our relatives collectively 168 00:10:58,325 --> 00:11:00,494 never endure that final death. 169 00:11:22,349 --> 00:11:24,976 [soft electronic music playing] 170 00:11:29,106 --> 00:11:31,108 [Joey] In fifth grade, I did a presentation 171 00:11:31,233 --> 00:11:32,984 on Arnold Schoenberg. 172 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:34,736 I knew he was famous, but I didn't know like 173 00:11:34,861 --> 00:11:36,738 anything about him up until that point. 174 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:39,533 So I went home and googled Arnold Schoenberg 175 00:11:39,658 --> 00:11:41,493 and then my teacher was like, "What's the relation 176 00:11:41,618 --> 00:11:43,286 to you and Arnold Schoenberg?" 177 00:11:43,412 --> 00:11:44,788 And I said, "Oh, he's my great-grandfather." 178 00:11:44,913 --> 00:11:46,498 And one of the teachers turned around and she was like, 179 00:11:46,623 --> 00:11:47,999 "Me and my husband love him." 180 00:11:48,125 --> 00:11:49,876 And it's like, "Oh, cool." 181 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:54,881 - [Randy] Joey. - [Joey] Hi. 182 00:11:56,299 --> 00:11:57,801 - [Randy] You made it. - [Joey] I did. 183 00:11:58,844 --> 00:12:00,053 [Randy] Let's go. I got that. 184 00:13:40,612 --> 00:13:42,489 [applause] 185 00:13:42,614 --> 00:13:44,115 Wow, that was terrific. 186 00:13:44,241 --> 00:13:46,618 I wanna thank my friends Sabina and Johannes 187 00:13:46,743 --> 00:13:50,705 for performing this wonderful concert for us here today. 188 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,500 And I'm lucky today to have my son, Joey, 189 00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:55,502 here for the first time. 190 00:13:55,627 --> 00:13:57,420 And really looking forward to our trip that we're gonna take. 191 00:13:57,546 --> 00:14:00,006 We're-- we're going on a little bit of a roots trip 192 00:14:00,131 --> 00:14:03,093 starting in Vienna and then exploring in Prague 193 00:14:03,218 --> 00:14:05,136 and looking at cemeteries 194 00:14:05,262 --> 00:14:08,056 and archives and documents and we'll see how far back we get. 195 00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:11,059 And we have here today, my cousins, Arnie Schoenberg, 196 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:12,644 all the way from San Diego, 197 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:14,938 and Serena Nono, who's from Venice, Italy, 198 00:14:15,063 --> 00:14:17,482 representing the three branches of our family. 199 00:14:23,572 --> 00:14:25,615 ["Schoenberg: Phantasy For Violin And Piano, 200 00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:27,659 Op.47" by Gilbert Kalish and Joseph Silverstein playing] 201 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:43,049 [Joey] I am sure there's gonna be some graves 202 00:14:43,174 --> 00:14:46,928 and archives that I'm going to be so bored at, 203 00:14:48,305 --> 00:14:51,516 but hopefully, I'll grow to like-- 204 00:14:51,641 --> 00:14:53,852 No, I will never like going into cemeteries. 205 00:14:53,977 --> 00:14:56,062 I can look at pictures of graves. 206 00:14:56,938 --> 00:15:00,442 But like going in there is like, it's like Halloween vibes. 207 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:01,901 It's, like, weird. 208 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:04,070 It's, like-- like I don't believe in, 209 00:15:04,195 --> 00:15:07,949 like, ghosts but, like, feels awkward. 210 00:15:19,669 --> 00:15:21,463 [Randy] With Joey, I'm hoping for him when 211 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:23,715 he goes in, let's say, the Altneuschul, 212 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,509 it's the oldest active synagogue in Europe. 213 00:15:26,635 --> 00:15:30,055 My ancestors were there, they were married there, they-- 214 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:33,350 they prayed there and you're in that building. 215 00:15:33,475 --> 00:15:35,018 It has an effect on me. 216 00:15:35,143 --> 00:15:36,853 So we'll see if it has an effect on Joey also. 217 00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:53,495 [applause] 218 00:15:55,664 --> 00:15:57,916 [soft eclectic music playing] 219 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:03,880 [Joey] I think for me, at least, tracing my family 220 00:16:04,005 --> 00:16:07,050 history gives me an entrée into the history of the world. 221 00:16:07,175 --> 00:16:09,761 It makes it a little more special when I go around 222 00:16:09,886 --> 00:16:13,348 and imagine that they were there in the very same place with me. 223 00:16:42,085 --> 00:16:43,545 [Randy] You're named after him. 224 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:45,046 [Joey] My middle name. 225 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:46,631 [Randy] You're Joseph Samuel Schoenberg 226 00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:48,925 after your great-great-grandfather. 227 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:51,094 [Joey] My great-grandfather, Samuel Schoenberg. 228 00:16:51,219 --> 00:16:53,304 It's the beginning of my grandfather 229 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:55,056 Arnold Schoenberg's family tree. 230 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:58,101 So it's him and his parents, Samuel Schoenberg 231 00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:00,812 and Pauline Nachod, and then their parents, 232 00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:04,023 Abraham and Theresia Schoenberg, and Paulina's parents, 233 00:17:04,149 --> 00:17:07,944 Josef Nachod and Karoline Jontof-Hutter. 234 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:10,655 Pauline was from Prague and we're gonna be going there 235 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:12,866 to try to explore her family history. 236 00:17:13,783 --> 00:17:17,454 [woman] This would be, uh, Schoenberg's mother Pauline. 237 00:17:17,579 --> 00:17:19,956 And this is Samuel Schoenberg. 238 00:17:20,081 --> 00:17:23,168 Here, Joey, you see that? Look at that. 239 00:17:23,293 --> 00:17:25,795 He's got a little mustache, a little bit long hair. 240 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,839 It looks a little bit, you know, radical. 241 00:17:27,964 --> 00:17:30,216 We are a rebellious family. 242 00:17:31,968 --> 00:17:33,928 So Joey, this is the original study 243 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:36,473 of Arnold Schoenberg in the Rockingham House, 244 00:17:36,598 --> 00:17:38,391 you know where Mima and Umpa live. 245 00:17:38,516 --> 00:17:41,060 And when I was growing up as a kid, it was all walled up. 246 00:17:45,857 --> 00:17:47,692 When they built the Schoenberg Institute, 247 00:17:47,817 --> 00:17:49,486 they moved everything over. 248 00:17:49,611 --> 00:17:51,196 So this is all the original stuff that was in 249 00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:53,698 there that-- that he used when he composed. 250 00:17:55,033 --> 00:17:57,035 - [Joey] Very cool. - [Randy] And neat. 251 00:17:57,869 --> 00:17:59,287 Makes me feel like home. 252 00:18:01,247 --> 00:18:03,666 [sentimental music playing] 253 00:18:23,144 --> 00:18:25,438 {\an8}[soft classical music playing] 254 00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:43,581 [Randy] Serena, you were there 255 00:18:43,706 --> 00:18:45,959 at the-- at the unveiling in '74? 256 00:18:46,084 --> 00:18:48,586 [Serena] Yeah, there's a little film, super eight film. 257 00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:52,006 I don't know who filmed it. 258 00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:55,385 I am in it. I'm putting down flowers on the Zone. 259 00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:56,970 And your parents are in it. 260 00:18:57,095 --> 00:18:59,889 Nuria is in it. And Sylvia I think too. 261 00:19:00,515 --> 00:19:02,475 - And Rudi. - [Randy] And Uncle Rudi, yeah. 262 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,685 [together] Yeah. 263 00:19:04,727 --> 00:19:06,187 [Randy] Lucky you were there. 264 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:07,689 I think it was my dad's first time in Vienna. 265 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:08,940 - [Serena] Really? - Yeah. Yeah. 266 00:19:09,065 --> 00:19:10,400 They came for the unveiling. 267 00:19:10,525 --> 00:19:11,776 [Serena] They all looked very young. 268 00:19:11,901 --> 00:19:13,194 [Randy] Yeah, they were. [laughs] 269 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:15,029 They were younger than we are now. 270 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:16,698 - [Serena] And beautiful. Yeah. - [Randy] Yeah. Amazing. 271 00:19:16,823 --> 00:19:18,825 Do you know why he's not in the music section? 272 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:21,035 I think there must have been a big political thing at 273 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,829 the city council when they-- when they gave him 274 00:19:22,954 --> 00:19:25,790 the honorary grave, because why wouldn't he be with 275 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:27,709 Mozart and Beethoven and Schubert? 276 00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,420 He's actually born in-- in Vienna, but I think they didn't 277 00:19:30,545 --> 00:19:32,964 want to have either a Jew or a modern composer. 278 00:19:33,089 --> 00:19:34,674 Probably a combination of the two. 279 00:19:37,969 --> 00:19:40,555 This is the first gate of the central cemetery 280 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,432 that's in Zentralfriedhof in Vienna. 281 00:19:42,557 --> 00:19:46,769 And I have over a dozen direct ancestors because also 282 00:19:46,895 --> 00:19:48,396 my mom's side is all buried here. 283 00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:52,400 [man] So we are at Zentralfriedhof gate one, 284 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:55,778 group five B, and looking for a special section, 285 00:19:55,904 --> 00:19:59,657 row seven, grave number 40. 286 00:19:59,782 --> 00:20:04,787 People who died 1884 to 1885. 287 00:20:07,248 --> 00:20:10,043 - [Serena] Hmm. - [man] Josef Nachod. 288 00:20:10,168 --> 00:20:12,921 [Randy] Oh, wow. There he is. 289 00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:17,467 [man] Josef... 290 00:20:17,592 --> 00:20:20,178 [speaking Hebrew] 291 00:20:20,303 --> 00:20:22,805 Josef Nachod, son of Gabriel Nachod, 292 00:20:22,931 --> 00:20:26,809 who was from Prague and died here in Vienna in 1884. 293 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,938 How is he related to us, Randy? 294 00:20:30,063 --> 00:20:31,856 Joseph is Arnold's grandfather. 295 00:20:31,981 --> 00:20:35,443 He's the father of Pauline who is our grandfather's mother. 296 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,362 So Joseph is our grandfather's grandfather. 297 00:20:37,487 --> 00:20:39,405 He's our great-great-great-grandfather. 298 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:42,533 He came and brought the family when he was retired, I guess, 299 00:20:42,659 --> 00:20:48,331 uh, from Prague to Vienna around I think 1869 we think. 300 00:20:48,456 --> 00:20:52,460 And then like a year later, uh, Samuel Schoenberg 301 00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:55,004 married Pauline Nachod, his daughter. 302 00:20:55,129 --> 00:20:59,300 And then a couple years later, Arnold was born in 1874. 303 00:20:59,842 --> 00:21:01,052 This is still here. 304 00:21:02,845 --> 00:21:04,973 [Serena] So I think that's the story really. 305 00:21:05,098 --> 00:21:06,891 People have to migrate. 306 00:21:08,518 --> 00:21:10,561 [Randy] A long time ago, it used to be very hard 307 00:21:10,687 --> 00:21:14,065 to find any of the graves because it was all grown over. 308 00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:15,858 Remember Wolf-Erich, when we used to come here 309 00:21:15,984 --> 00:21:17,527 and there were-- Wolf-Erich would 310 00:21:17,652 --> 00:21:20,405 bring his shears and start cutting away the-- 311 00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:23,074 the leaves and the trees so you could get to the grave. 312 00:21:23,199 --> 00:21:24,993 But now they've cleaned it up because, 313 00:21:25,118 --> 00:21:27,078 for 50 years after the war, no one had done anything. 314 00:21:44,971 --> 00:21:46,639 Like you said, their DNA is still 315 00:21:46,764 --> 00:21:48,599 somehow there growing up in the grass. 316 00:21:48,725 --> 00:21:51,060 So I think that-- that idea of having the-- 317 00:21:51,185 --> 00:21:53,521 the ancestor recorded with the text 318 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:56,566 and what they did is great and fascinating 319 00:21:56,691 --> 00:21:58,276 and the story of their life. 320 00:21:58,401 --> 00:22:00,862 But-- but also having the physical sense of, 321 00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:04,407 you know, part of my DNA is underground 322 00:22:04,532 --> 00:22:07,118 here in these bones that I could dig that up 323 00:22:07,243 --> 00:22:10,288 and find that DNA that's has been passed down to me. 324 00:22:10,413 --> 00:22:13,082 I don't feel that when I'm home in California, right. 325 00:22:13,207 --> 00:22:16,794 You don't feel like the soil in California is part of you. 326 00:22:16,919 --> 00:22:19,589 But you come here in-- in Vienna and like 327 00:22:19,714 --> 00:22:21,424 our-- our family is in the dirt, right? 328 00:22:21,549 --> 00:22:22,967 It's in the-- it's in the soil. 329 00:22:23,092 --> 00:22:24,927 It's in the air somehow. 330 00:22:41,778 --> 00:22:42,987 Closed. 331 00:22:43,905 --> 00:22:45,073 Now what? 332 00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:48,659 I've been trying to get permission for weeks 333 00:22:48,785 --> 00:22:51,204 from the Jewish community here 334 00:22:51,329 --> 00:22:53,998 and it's driving me nuts, actually. 335 00:22:54,123 --> 00:22:57,502 We have a film permit and we've been contacting them. 336 00:22:57,627 --> 00:23:00,254 First, they said they were too busy with Ukrainians, 337 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:02,298 then they said it's Passover. 338 00:23:02,423 --> 00:23:03,883 And we said that's fine. 339 00:23:04,008 --> 00:23:05,134 We'll-- we'll just film and we'll work out 340 00:23:05,259 --> 00:23:07,011 all the paperwork afterwards. 341 00:23:07,136 --> 00:23:09,138 And I-- I called the, uh, the head of the community 342 00:23:09,263 --> 00:23:11,974 and he said, uh, we can't go in. 343 00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:13,643 And I said, "Why?" 344 00:23:13,768 --> 00:23:15,228 And he said, "Because the Jewish community 345 00:23:15,353 --> 00:23:16,896 has made a decision not to let me in." 346 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,357 And I said, "Who made the decision? Was it you?" 347 00:23:19,857 --> 00:23:21,359 He said, "The decision has been made. 348 00:23:21,484 --> 00:23:22,777 The decision won't change." 349 00:23:23,361 --> 00:23:26,989 So-- so here's a cemetery that my family 350 00:23:27,115 --> 00:23:28,991 founded here in Vienna. 351 00:23:29,117 --> 00:23:32,954 The first grave and the third grave are members of my family. 352 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:34,872 Many of my ancestors are buried here. 353 00:23:34,997 --> 00:23:37,291 The Biedermann family, the Sinzheim family, 354 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:41,129 the Funk family, the grandfather of my grandfather, 355 00:23:41,254 --> 00:23:42,922 Arnold Schoenberg, Abraham Schoenberg, 356 00:23:43,047 --> 00:23:46,259 the first Schoenberg to come here to Vienna. 357 00:23:46,384 --> 00:23:49,345 He was born in Hungary and he died here in, 358 00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:51,013 uh, I think 1871. 359 00:23:51,139 --> 00:23:52,765 And he's buried here also. 360 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:54,934 Um, but can't go in. 361 00:23:55,059 --> 00:23:57,979 [man] So Randy helped raise money for this project. 362 00:23:58,104 --> 00:23:59,730 - Of course. - [man] Can you speculate as to 363 00:23:59,856 --> 00:24:01,274 why they won't let him inside? 364 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:04,235 [chuckles] 365 00:24:05,611 --> 00:24:06,612 No idea. 366 00:24:06,737 --> 00:24:07,864 No idea. 367 00:24:09,532 --> 00:24:11,325 This was a jungle. 368 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:13,411 The money for fixing the cemeteries is something 369 00:24:13,536 --> 00:24:17,081 I worked on in 2000 and finally, it's being done. 370 00:24:17,206 --> 00:24:20,585 And here we are in 2022 and it's cleaned up 371 00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:22,253 and they won't let me in. 372 00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:24,422 These are people I know 373 00:24:24,547 --> 00:24:26,841 that I've been friends with for 20 years 374 00:24:26,966 --> 00:24:28,426 and I'm just in shock. 375 00:24:28,551 --> 00:24:30,094 It's just, it's tragic. 376 00:24:30,219 --> 00:24:32,805 The-- the Jews who live in Vienna now, um, 377 00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:35,641 live unfortunately in a very fearful state. 378 00:24:35,766 --> 00:24:39,312 Sometimes there've been attacks on them and-- and 379 00:24:39,437 --> 00:24:42,815 so they're very, um, tight and among themselves 380 00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:45,151 and I guess I'm still considered an outsider 381 00:24:45,276 --> 00:24:48,821 even though all four of my grandparents were from Vienna. 382 00:24:48,946 --> 00:24:50,907 And, uh, my family lived here for 383 00:24:51,032 --> 00:24:52,742 hundreds and hundreds of years. 384 00:24:55,286 --> 00:24:57,788 So I don't think there's much more I can say. 385 00:24:59,248 --> 00:25:01,667 [somber music playing] 386 00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:34,575 ["Rainy Year" by Josh Kramon playing] 387 00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:01,185 [church bell tolling] 388 00:26:11,112 --> 00:26:13,447 [indistinct chatter] 389 00:26:14,782 --> 00:26:17,243 {\an8}- [words on screen] - In the back. 390 00:26:33,718 --> 00:26:39,598 {\an8}[words on screen] 391 00:26:40,224 --> 00:26:43,519 {\an8}[kid speaks words on screen] 392 00:26:43,644 --> 00:26:45,062 {\an8}[end call tone] 393 00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:06,292 [heavy rock music playing] 394 00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,927 [man] So a little bit thickness. 395 00:27:58,052 --> 00:28:00,054 And then we start with the-- 396 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:05,559 and we need this and let's try. 397 00:28:11,273 --> 00:28:12,525 It's your job. 398 00:28:15,569 --> 00:28:17,154 So that should cook slowly. 399 00:28:20,282 --> 00:28:22,743 What kind of tattoo are you thinking of? 400 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,829 What do you want on your skin? 401 00:28:24,954 --> 00:28:28,666 Well, I want kind of like a clip art of my intestines. 402 00:28:28,791 --> 00:28:32,711 Kind of like near my appendix or on my thigh because, 403 00:28:32,837 --> 00:28:35,089 uh, because of my Crohn's. 404 00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:37,591 Like I don't want any-- just any tattoo on me. 405 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,427 I want something that's really true to me. 406 00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:41,429 - Which has a meaning, yeah. - Yeah. 407 00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:45,057 And inte-- my intestines have definitely impacted my life. 408 00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:48,185 Not the real topic for dinner, is it? 409 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:50,312 - No, not really. - But-- 410 00:28:50,438 --> 00:28:52,481 I mean, it's always a topic at my house. 411 00:28:52,606 --> 00:28:54,900 - [speaking foreign language] - Ready? 412 00:28:55,025 --> 00:28:56,235 - You have beer? - Uh, yes. 413 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,403 - I've got a beer already. - [woman] Wolfie? 414 00:28:57,528 --> 00:28:59,029 I don't. 415 00:28:59,155 --> 00:29:01,657 I didn't know if I'd still be able to be a chef, 416 00:29:01,782 --> 00:29:06,078 but I've learned how to cook for myself 417 00:29:06,203 --> 00:29:09,081 and I hope to share that with people. 418 00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:12,334 [man] But it smells good. Huh? What do you think? 419 00:29:13,252 --> 00:29:15,004 [Joey] Uh, maybe a little bit longer. 420 00:29:15,129 --> 00:29:16,630 [man] Yeah, it needs some time. 421 00:29:17,548 --> 00:29:22,803 [woman] Yeah. Joey, you sit here, the second chair. 422 00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:24,555 You sit here. [man] Oh, perfect. Perfect. 423 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,516 I just want to say welcome to everybody. 424 00:29:27,641 --> 00:29:31,854 And as Randy wants to-- to welcome always. 425 00:29:31,979 --> 00:29:36,817 Hilde. It's Hilde Spiel painted by Lisel Salzer. 426 00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:38,360 We love this picture. 427 00:29:38,486 --> 00:29:40,279 And Hilde is always with us. 428 00:29:40,404 --> 00:29:45,117 She was the most famous writer from Austria. 429 00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:47,244 In our house at home, 430 00:29:47,369 --> 00:29:49,455 we also have paintings by Lisel Salzer, 431 00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:51,499 but of my great-great-grandfather, 432 00:29:51,624 --> 00:29:54,960 of my great-grandmother, of my grandmother, of my mother, 433 00:29:55,085 --> 00:29:58,380 and of me and my sister, all-- all in the house. 434 00:29:58,506 --> 00:30:00,799 So when I come here and I see Lisel Salzer painting 435 00:30:00,925 --> 00:30:02,635 and it makes me feel like home. 436 00:30:03,427 --> 00:30:07,097 To bring these paintings also to-- to-- to Austria, 437 00:30:07,223 --> 00:30:08,974 this would be amazing. 438 00:30:09,099 --> 00:30:13,437 But because Randy is doing a genealogical movie, 439 00:30:13,562 --> 00:30:17,441 I think we should invest a little bit of time 440 00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:21,070 just for anyone here on the table for 30 seconds, 441 00:30:21,654 --> 00:30:28,244 describe why genealogy is so important for you. 442 00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:31,872 I'm Serena and I'm Randy's cousin. 443 00:30:31,997 --> 00:30:35,209 I live in Venice and I am Italian. 444 00:30:35,334 --> 00:30:40,005 Randy's, um, research has made me think 445 00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:43,425 about it and made me more interested in it. 446 00:30:43,551 --> 00:30:50,975 We go back to 1500 and to Venice to my town, so that's amazing. 447 00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:57,022 I think when I was eight I did my first family tree. 448 00:30:57,147 --> 00:31:00,442 I was always very interested in my own family. 449 00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:03,529 All of my cousins ask me, "How are we related?" 450 00:31:03,654 --> 00:31:05,614 And I tell them, "We are cousins." 451 00:31:05,739 --> 00:31:08,033 You don't have to know more than this. 452 00:31:08,158 --> 00:31:10,077 - [man] Exactly. - We are family. 453 00:31:10,536 --> 00:31:13,038 Now, I don't know why, uh, it's not important, 454 00:31:13,163 --> 00:31:17,001 but I do it about 15 hours a day. 455 00:31:17,126 --> 00:31:20,629 - [Joey laughs] - Um, and the rest-- 456 00:31:21,297 --> 00:31:23,799 - [Randy] You sleep. - I'm resting, yeah. 457 00:31:23,924 --> 00:31:26,093 [laughter] 458 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:28,512 Well, um, I wouldn't pass up 459 00:31:28,637 --> 00:31:30,347 an opportunity to come to Europe. 460 00:31:30,472 --> 00:31:32,474 [laughter] 461 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,187 Um, family is nice and so it's-- 462 00:31:37,313 --> 00:31:39,773 it's nice to know where I came from. 463 00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,942 Not a lot of people can say that. 464 00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:43,861 [man] And now we've got Randy himself. 465 00:31:43,986 --> 00:31:47,114 30 seconds, why genealogy is important. 466 00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:49,658 - Oh, this is gonna be hard. - For me, it's just 467 00:31:49,783 --> 00:31:52,036 a way of-- of connecting. 468 00:31:52,161 --> 00:31:54,413 I grew up in a family that felt very European, 469 00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:58,626 so my family home had furniture and paintings 470 00:31:58,751 --> 00:32:02,671 and things that looked like-- like this beautiful house. 471 00:32:02,796 --> 00:32:06,342 And-- and I guess genealogy has allowed me 472 00:32:06,467 --> 00:32:09,511 to enter that world and to meet people like you 473 00:32:09,637 --> 00:32:12,056 and Marie-Theres and all of you here, 474 00:32:12,181 --> 00:32:15,809 uh, who have that same sort of feel for that history 475 00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:18,812 that-- that my family had and that all of us have. 476 00:32:18,937 --> 00:32:20,814 So anyway, thank you all for being here 477 00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:22,524 and sharing that with me. 478 00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:24,902 The major point, I think, what Randy always 479 00:32:25,027 --> 00:32:28,238 does all his life is bringing people together. 480 00:32:28,364 --> 00:32:30,824 Every time we have a new person come over to our house, 481 00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:33,577 like one of Dora's friends, Nathan's friends, my friends, 482 00:32:33,702 --> 00:32:36,455 his friends, my mom's friends, he asks them, uh, 483 00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:38,332 if he can do their genealogy 484 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:40,876 and then he sits on the couch with them 485 00:32:41,001 --> 00:32:43,337 and goes through their entire family tree. 486 00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:46,131 Well, it's selfish because I can't do it myself. 487 00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:48,050 - [laughter] - I need the help 488 00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:50,844 of everybody else to find the next clue. 489 00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:53,347 [man] As he started posting questions about 490 00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:57,476 my genealogy I've gotten like all of these strange 491 00:32:57,601 --> 00:32:59,645 unsolicited emails from all these people that were like, 492 00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:01,814 "Listen, you don't know me, 493 00:33:01,939 --> 00:33:05,776 but I am your second cousin once removed." 494 00:33:05,901 --> 00:33:08,821 Sometimes-- sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. 495 00:33:08,946 --> 00:33:11,657 It just, you know, depends on-- on the family. 496 00:33:11,782 --> 00:33:13,909 Oh, I need some space in the middle. 497 00:33:15,202 --> 00:33:20,124 There we are. Four kilos. No, two. Four pounds. 498 00:33:20,249 --> 00:33:22,376 Sorry, I got mixed up with this strange... 499 00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:24,461 - Thank you. - ...non-metrical system. 500 00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:26,171 Thank you for allowing us to be here 501 00:33:26,296 --> 00:33:28,298 and making your home, our home for a night. 502 00:33:28,424 --> 00:33:31,093 - [Marie-Theres] It's your home. - Very nice. Very nice. 503 00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:34,012 - [laughs] - [Marie-Theres] Thank you. 504 00:33:34,138 --> 00:33:35,889 [Randy] My mom was an only child. 505 00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:38,434 My dad had two siblings and so we had very few cousins. 506 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:39,893 Five of them. 507 00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:41,353 And even second cousins were sort of 508 00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:42,855 non-existent in the family. 509 00:33:43,731 --> 00:33:45,566 What we thought was a normal family. 510 00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:47,568 But then you realize like there are some families 511 00:33:47,693 --> 00:33:49,570 that stick around in the same place for a long 512 00:33:49,695 --> 00:33:51,363 time where they have dozens and dozens of cousins. 513 00:33:52,406 --> 00:33:54,908 Because of what happened in World War II, 514 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:56,952 we spread out all over the world and sometimes have lost contact. 515 00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:00,956 So I think part of my genealogical quest 516 00:34:01,081 --> 00:34:04,918 has been to reunite us with these extended family members. 517 00:34:06,462 --> 00:34:10,424 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 518 00:34:10,549 --> 00:34:14,470 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 519 00:34:14,595 --> 00:34:19,308 ♪ Happy birthday dear Joey ♪ 520 00:34:19,433 --> 00:34:24,646 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 521 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:28,817 [cheering, applause] 522 00:34:28,942 --> 00:34:30,402 [Joey] I turned 18 in Europe. 523 00:34:30,527 --> 00:34:31,987 I felt like it was very fitting. 524 00:34:32,112 --> 00:34:34,698 - It's the 18th birthday, so. - Exactly. 525 00:34:34,823 --> 00:34:37,284 A very important birthday. 526 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,077 All the best, Joey. 527 00:34:40,370 --> 00:34:43,540 I think if anybody can figure out what this is 528 00:34:43,665 --> 00:34:46,168 and who it belonged to, it would be the two of you, 529 00:34:46,293 --> 00:34:48,712 Marie-Theres and-- and Georg. So I'm giving it to you. 530 00:34:48,837 --> 00:34:51,548 It must be 150 years old or more. 531 00:34:51,673 --> 00:34:55,219 And it seems to be an album of visiting cards of some sort 532 00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:57,846 and there's some-- even some genealogical ones. 533 00:34:58,347 --> 00:35:00,098 Uh, so maybe you could look through. 534 00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:01,558 [Georg] It looks a bit like-- like the [indistinct]. 535 00:35:01,683 --> 00:35:03,185 [Marie-Theres] Thank you so much. 536 00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:04,561 [Randy] Yeah. So what's a [indistinct]? 537 00:35:05,062 --> 00:35:06,688 [Georg] It's something that it says-- 538 00:35:06,814 --> 00:35:09,483 [conversation fades] 539 00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:12,069 [soft classical music playing] 540 00:35:23,038 --> 00:35:24,665 I guess from all the stories 541 00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:26,750 you're telling me about the family, 542 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:31,255 I had this dream that I would start painting some pictures 543 00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:34,675 of-- of the characters you're, like, telling me about. 544 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,846 And then this morning I spoke to Nick and I said to him, 545 00:35:38,971 --> 00:35:40,848 you know, "What do you think if we started 546 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:45,435 painting these people, you know, and make a series of paintings 547 00:35:45,561 --> 00:35:49,731 on-- on these characters that Randy is telling me about? 548 00:35:49,857 --> 00:35:51,817 - It's our family." - Such a neat idea. 549 00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:55,571 Like-- like how would you get the-- the faces? 550 00:35:55,696 --> 00:35:57,239 How would you imagine them, though? 551 00:35:57,364 --> 00:35:58,866 We don't have any photographs or we don't know 552 00:35:58,991 --> 00:36:00,158 - what they look like. - I mean, yeah, 553 00:36:00,284 --> 00:36:02,035 of course, we don't. 554 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,248 But, um, I think it would be interesting to like use 555 00:36:06,373 --> 00:36:08,792 some faces from our family 556 00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:11,879 would be like, uh, portraits of ghosts. 557 00:36:12,004 --> 00:36:13,672 [Randy laughs] A little bit. 558 00:36:13,797 --> 00:36:16,258 I always-- I think of these people just as names 559 00:36:16,383 --> 00:36:18,218 or gravestones or documents. 560 00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:20,971 I never really try to imagine what they look like. 561 00:36:21,096 --> 00:36:23,223 Yeah, it becomes real, you know. 562 00:36:23,348 --> 00:36:26,727 It becomes like something other people can visualize too. 563 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:31,982 [sentimental music playing] 564 00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:01,637 It's number one. 565 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,441 [woman] '74 is-- Arnold Schoenberg born here. 566 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:20,447 And 1889 my grandma bought the house. 567 00:37:20,864 --> 00:37:24,201 It's very important for me to be in this building 568 00:37:24,326 --> 00:37:26,745 and to know that Schoenberg was born here 569 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:29,539 and to know about the period of time 570 00:37:29,665 --> 00:37:32,417 when he was born, to know about this neighborhood, 571 00:37:33,877 --> 00:37:36,380 because it can convey some feelings 572 00:37:36,505 --> 00:37:39,508 even for-- for the work of painting. 573 00:37:40,342 --> 00:37:42,970 [woman] Second district was a very poor district 574 00:37:43,095 --> 00:37:47,307 and a lot of Jewish people were living here. 575 00:37:48,225 --> 00:37:51,019 It was a not beautiful district. 576 00:37:51,144 --> 00:37:54,982 The houses, uh, were looked poor. 577 00:37:55,107 --> 00:37:56,942 [Serena] I'm a figurative painter 578 00:37:57,067 --> 00:38:00,278 and I like painting expressions 579 00:38:00,404 --> 00:38:04,533 and I think that portraits are what I really like to do, 580 00:38:04,658 --> 00:38:08,745 to get a feeling of what the person means to me. 581 00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:22,801 [Randy] Heinrich Schoenberg, 582 00:38:22,926 --> 00:38:25,220 Arnold's brother and two above him is Artur, 583 00:38:25,345 --> 00:38:26,847 that's his first cousin, 584 00:38:26,972 --> 00:38:29,016 and he was married to Eveline Schoenberg, 585 00:38:29,141 --> 00:38:31,852 but there's quite a lot of Schoenberg's and Schoenberger's 586 00:38:31,977 --> 00:38:33,353 and they were all killed. 587 00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:35,814 Heinrich was murdered in Salzburg 588 00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:38,567 and Artur and Eveline, uh, in Theresienstadt. 589 00:38:44,364 --> 00:38:48,201 Josef Felix Nachod and Robert Nachod were first cousins 590 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:49,619 of my grandfather, 591 00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:55,000 Clara Franziska, and Josef Felix and Robert Nachod. 592 00:38:55,125 --> 00:38:56,668 And uh, they were killed. 593 00:38:57,961 --> 00:39:02,299 Josef Nachod and his wife Clara, uh, had a daughter, Edith, 594 00:39:02,424 --> 00:39:05,802 who managed to be sent out but with a Kindertransport. 595 00:39:05,927 --> 00:39:08,055 And I tracked her down just a few years ago, 596 00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:09,431 shortly before she died. 597 00:39:10,307 --> 00:39:12,476 And it was for-- she was very, very nice. 598 00:39:12,601 --> 00:39:15,687 Her father tried to get out but couldn't. 599 00:39:15,812 --> 00:39:18,940 He sent a letter to a man in Texas in English. 600 00:39:19,066 --> 00:39:21,276 Really a tragic letter, uh, that we have. 601 00:39:21,401 --> 00:39:23,070 Someone found me on the internet and-- 602 00:39:23,195 --> 00:39:27,449 and said they found this letter from him and, uh, it's-- 603 00:39:27,574 --> 00:39:30,827 we put it in the museum in Los Angeles because it's so-- 604 00:39:30,952 --> 00:39:33,038 so heart wrenching. He says, "Please help me. 605 00:39:33,163 --> 00:39:35,916 I need to get out." And, of course, he didn't. 606 00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:39,377 He was sent to Theresienstadt and, uh, then murdered. 607 00:39:39,503 --> 00:39:41,922 [somber music playing] 608 00:39:56,478 --> 00:39:59,022 [Randy] Barbara Kintaert, I met a number of years ago 609 00:39:59,147 --> 00:40:01,942 'cause she was doing research on her husband's family. 610 00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:04,319 And so she found me on the genealogy site 611 00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:06,655 and then when I came to Vienna, she wanted to meet with me 612 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:10,200 and she's just a remarkable woman who decided to study 613 00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:13,286 the history of her own building and neighborhood. 614 00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:15,497 [Serena] Is this a Jewish neighborhood? 615 00:40:15,622 --> 00:40:16,957 [Randy] It was. 616 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:22,546 {\an8}[Barbara] When I moved in, in 1984, in this house number six, 617 00:40:24,214 --> 00:40:28,468 {\an8}there was one old lady who said, "Uh, what are you doing here 618 00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:32,097 {\an8}with all your bags and with all your, uh, boxes?" 619 00:40:32,222 --> 00:40:34,599 And I said, "We are moving in." 620 00:40:34,724 --> 00:40:39,312 And the old lady said... [speaking German] 621 00:40:39,771 --> 00:40:41,481 She said that in 1984-- 622 00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:43,233 [Randy] You have to translate that for them. 623 00:40:43,358 --> 00:40:46,570 Uh, it means finally the house is without Jews. 624 00:40:46,695 --> 00:40:49,698 And I started researching this house where I live. 625 00:40:49,823 --> 00:40:54,494 It's the same overall profile as Austria in a-- as a whole. 626 00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:57,831 One-third of the people in our house 627 00:40:58,748 --> 00:41:00,584 were deported and murdered. 628 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:06,798 One-third of the people in our house lost everything, 629 00:41:06,923 --> 00:41:10,260 but they were able to get a visa to-- to immigrate abroad. 630 00:41:11,011 --> 00:41:14,222 And one-third has an "unclear fate". 631 00:41:14,347 --> 00:41:19,311 So then in 2005, we had this, um, memorial made. 632 00:41:19,436 --> 00:41:22,105 You have to know the micro history of the place 633 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:26,276 where you live because it's a contaminated landscape. 634 00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:30,697 You-- you cannot just walk through a nice looking street 635 00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:33,241 that looks very elegant or whatever, 636 00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:35,744 and not know the history of it. 637 00:41:36,244 --> 00:41:39,164 My husband is Viennese, his father was half-Jewish. 638 00:41:39,289 --> 00:41:43,043 And my father-in-law was the only survivor in Vienna. 639 00:41:43,168 --> 00:41:44,669 We are a very, very small Vien-- 640 00:41:44,794 --> 00:41:46,922 family in Vienna because of the Holocaust. 641 00:41:47,047 --> 00:41:51,134 I-- I consider it as a-- as a family carpet. 642 00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:53,220 When you have a carpet, you have a carpet. 643 00:41:53,345 --> 00:41:57,057 Um, it has threads like this and threads like this. 644 00:41:57,182 --> 00:42:01,186 But if, uh, one part of the family is eradicated, 645 00:42:01,311 --> 00:42:02,687 some threads are missing. 646 00:42:02,812 --> 00:42:04,314 You have a big hole in the carpet. 647 00:42:04,439 --> 00:42:07,400 And so through research, you can mend it somehow. 648 00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:11,947 And our family carpet in Vienna is torn up, torn apart. 649 00:42:12,072 --> 00:42:14,574 You can live on without knowing anything, of course. 650 00:42:14,699 --> 00:42:17,869 And it's maybe easier, but it's not healthier. 651 00:42:24,042 --> 00:42:26,962 So this is our key memorial. 652 00:42:27,087 --> 00:42:32,133 It's 462 names of all the Jewish people in the whole street. 653 00:42:32,259 --> 00:42:36,596 See, it goes to the end of the block. 654 00:42:36,721 --> 00:42:39,266 And it's just a very small street. 655 00:42:39,391 --> 00:42:41,184 It-- maybe it sounds strange, 656 00:42:41,309 --> 00:42:43,603 but I think it makes the street healthier 657 00:42:43,728 --> 00:42:46,856 to-- to be able to know the history of the street. 658 00:42:46,982 --> 00:42:49,359 I think all the streets could do that. 659 00:42:49,484 --> 00:42:54,155 Last summer, uh, uh, an-- an elderly lady with 660 00:42:54,281 --> 00:42:57,742 heads-- headscarf and her daughter with no headscarf, 661 00:42:57,867 --> 00:43:01,621 and the son-in-law and the small grandchild were passing by. 662 00:43:01,746 --> 00:43:03,748 And the daughter and the son-in-law were able 663 00:43:03,873 --> 00:43:06,042 to speak, uh, English. 664 00:43:06,167 --> 00:43:07,460 And the young woman and her husband 665 00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:09,087 asked me what it was. 666 00:43:09,212 --> 00:43:11,214 So I explained it to them and they said, 667 00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:14,634 "Oh, we are refugees too, and thank you for explaining." 668 00:43:14,759 --> 00:43:16,052 And then they went away. 669 00:43:16,177 --> 00:43:17,387 And then the old mother came back, 670 00:43:17,512 --> 00:43:19,097 the one with the headscarf, 671 00:43:19,222 --> 00:43:22,392 and she said, "It's so moving with the keys. 672 00:43:22,517 --> 00:43:24,185 I completely feel with it." 673 00:43:24,311 --> 00:43:26,479 - She-- she was from Syria. - Yeah. 674 00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:28,940 And she was so moved. 675 00:43:29,065 --> 00:43:30,817 - That was like-- - [Serena] Wonderful story. 676 00:43:30,942 --> 00:43:32,277 Yes, that was nice. 677 00:43:55,342 --> 00:43:57,302 [Georg] All the interior is from 1881. 678 00:43:57,427 --> 00:43:59,596 And the fascinating thing is that this shop 679 00:43:59,721 --> 00:44:02,140 was designed for selling fabric. 680 00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:05,393 What they wanted was a renaissance room 681 00:44:05,518 --> 00:44:06,978 'cause it was history. 682 00:44:16,321 --> 00:44:19,240 Good fabric is something that is a mentality. 683 00:44:19,366 --> 00:44:21,117 It's a thing you will have for lifetime. 684 00:44:21,242 --> 00:44:22,827 Not something you will throw away 685 00:44:22,952 --> 00:44:24,329 after three times of wearing. 686 00:44:24,454 --> 00:44:26,206 It's something you will have for years. 687 00:44:26,998 --> 00:44:28,917 And you can think of a birthday present, Randy, 688 00:44:29,042 --> 00:44:31,503 for something for an 18th birthday I think 689 00:44:31,628 --> 00:44:35,048 a nice fitting suit is a good-- good thing to do. 690 00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:38,426 Happy birthday, Joey. You only turn 18 once. 691 00:44:38,551 --> 00:44:41,930 - What do you think about this? - [Randy] Ah, that looks nice. 692 00:44:42,055 --> 00:44:45,183 Yeah. I like this one. It suits my aura. 693 00:44:45,308 --> 00:44:48,395 The burgundy one? That looks a little expensive. 694 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,688 - We'll take it. - [Randy laughs] 695 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:55,527 [Randy] Georg was working in the family business 696 00:44:55,652 --> 00:44:57,904 and he discovered these old ledgers going back, 697 00:44:58,029 --> 00:45:00,865 you know, a hundred, 150 years and saw all these names 698 00:45:00,990 --> 00:45:02,867 that just didn't exist anymore in Vienna. 699 00:45:02,992 --> 00:45:05,412 Like no one could answer like, what happened to these families? 700 00:45:05,537 --> 00:45:07,247 So he decided to do research. 701 00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:13,211 [Georg] There's so much cultural history here. 702 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:16,631 Actually, what-- what genealogy is about is, um, 703 00:45:16,756 --> 00:45:19,217 that every history is made by people. 704 00:45:19,342 --> 00:45:22,095 And, um, genealogy is the question how 705 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:25,306 these people who are dealing with are related to each other. 706 00:45:25,432 --> 00:45:26,975 And it's always a question of, 707 00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:29,477 now genealogy is also a question of biography. 708 00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:33,022 So these two things that match, and I got interested because 709 00:45:33,148 --> 00:45:36,025 I've got all the old books from-- from my company 710 00:45:36,151 --> 00:45:40,989 from the 19th century, um, where people bought cloth and, 711 00:45:41,114 --> 00:45:43,533 um, everyone who got one of these robes or, 712 00:45:43,658 --> 00:45:46,411 um, there was, uh, the name written down. 713 00:45:46,536 --> 00:45:48,830 And then there was a little piece of fabric glued in, 714 00:45:48,955 --> 00:45:51,749 and it was written exactly what-- what was made. 715 00:45:51,875 --> 00:45:55,086 And I found out that there was a huge layer in society, 716 00:45:55,211 --> 00:45:57,714 which was absolutely the most important group 717 00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:00,133 in Viennese society for the intellectual output 718 00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:02,469 was completely destroyed in Second World War. 719 00:46:02,594 --> 00:46:04,471 And I'm just trying to reconstruct 720 00:46:04,596 --> 00:46:06,306 this layer of society. 721 00:46:06,431 --> 00:46:09,267 And so genealogy is just a way to get an idea how 722 00:46:09,392 --> 00:46:11,853 this world has been in those days. 723 00:46:13,146 --> 00:46:16,274 There's a-- a quite old book from-- from 1912 and-- 724 00:46:16,399 --> 00:46:18,026 and the second volume was published 725 00:46:18,151 --> 00:46:20,820 a few years later by Bernhard Wachstein. 726 00:46:20,945 --> 00:46:24,199 And he was a very, very interesting, uh, figure 727 00:46:24,324 --> 00:46:27,202 because he was the director of the Jewish library in Vienna. 728 00:46:27,327 --> 00:46:30,038 And, um, he was probably the first 729 00:46:30,163 --> 00:46:33,666 really Jewish genealogist who-- who did new methods. 730 00:46:33,791 --> 00:46:36,085 So he went down to the cemeteries 731 00:46:36,211 --> 00:46:38,254 and he transcribed all the inscriptions 732 00:46:38,379 --> 00:46:40,882 and he-- he did lots of research in the libraries 733 00:46:41,007 --> 00:46:44,511 and-- and he wrote these two absolutely tremendous books. 734 00:46:44,636 --> 00:46:46,679 - And there you are. - Oh, wow. 735 00:46:48,723 --> 00:46:51,434 I think for your-- for your purposes, 736 00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,145 I think you should go to Prague and to do research there. 737 00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,356 I think you'll find tremendous things. 738 00:47:38,523 --> 00:47:40,608 {\an8}[sentimental music playing] 739 00:47:40,733 --> 00:47:43,069 {\an8}[Randy] Julius Muller is like Wolf-Erich Eckstein 740 00:47:43,194 --> 00:47:44,904 {\an8} or Georg Gaugusch. 741 00:47:45,029 --> 00:47:46,656 {\an8} He's sort of my go-to guy in the Czech Republic. 742 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,580 [Julius] I like stories just not only about the data, 743 00:47:53,705 --> 00:47:55,957 death, marriage, birth, but also about 744 00:47:56,082 --> 00:47:58,001 the stories and about real people. 745 00:47:58,126 --> 00:48:02,255 So I would say I was really attracted by providing data for 746 00:48:02,380 --> 00:48:04,257 other people, but at the same time, 747 00:48:04,382 --> 00:48:06,551 they provide me with their stories and their lives. 748 00:48:06,676 --> 00:48:08,720 So it's more complex. 749 00:48:08,845 --> 00:48:10,930 It's just regular profession. It's more than that for me. 750 00:48:15,059 --> 00:48:17,020 This is where the wedding was officiated. 751 00:48:17,145 --> 00:48:21,441 And in August 12th, 1845, 752 00:48:21,566 --> 00:48:25,778 Josef Nachod Handelsmann married Karoline Jontof 753 00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:28,031 and you can see in the books. 754 00:48:28,156 --> 00:48:31,075 The witnesses was Gabriel Nachod, the father. 755 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,745 - His father, yeah. - And Israel Jontof. 756 00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:40,668 [Randy] The Altneuschul, it's the oldest synagogue 757 00:48:40,793 --> 00:48:43,546 in the world that's still continuously active. 758 00:48:43,671 --> 00:48:46,341 I would say family reunion for me is 759 00:48:46,466 --> 00:48:48,926 the highlights of the genealogy. 760 00:48:49,594 --> 00:48:51,512 - [Randy] See that chair there? - [Joey] Mm-hmm. 761 00:48:51,638 --> 00:48:53,765 That's the seat of the Maharal. 762 00:48:53,890 --> 00:48:56,559 Of the chief rabbi who's our ancestor also. 763 00:48:57,977 --> 00:49:00,438 [Julius] If you grew up in a socialist era, 764 00:49:00,563 --> 00:49:03,941 the things of individual history are suppressed. 765 00:49:04,067 --> 00:49:06,319 So sort of propaganda or ideology 766 00:49:06,444 --> 00:49:08,655 that you are just part of something bigger. 767 00:49:08,780 --> 00:49:13,201 After 1990, the whole society became more individualistic. 768 00:49:13,326 --> 00:49:15,370 [Randy] And think about our family being in here 769 00:49:15,495 --> 00:49:16,829 hundreds of years ago. 770 00:49:18,456 --> 00:49:20,291 Pretty cool. 771 00:49:20,416 --> 00:49:22,919 [Julius] So I started to work on a family tree and gradually 772 00:49:23,044 --> 00:49:25,421 I realized that part of the family was Jewish. 773 00:49:25,546 --> 00:49:27,965 I didn't know that before until I was 25. 774 00:49:28,091 --> 00:49:30,218 So I started to go to the synagogue, 775 00:49:30,343 --> 00:49:32,220 trying to learn Hebrew. 776 00:49:32,345 --> 00:49:35,181 For me, genealogy at the very beginning was 777 00:49:35,306 --> 00:49:38,017 more like an entrance through world of Judaism. 778 00:49:38,142 --> 00:49:40,353 Still even, 70 years after the war, 779 00:49:40,478 --> 00:49:42,230 people are struggling to find 780 00:49:42,355 --> 00:49:44,941 a Jewish identity in different ways. 781 00:49:45,066 --> 00:49:46,901 And those people are coming to me. 782 00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:50,196 And I'm always honestly warning them 783 00:49:50,321 --> 00:49:53,157 you will see probably things you would never expect to see 784 00:49:53,282 --> 00:49:55,243 or learn about your own family. 785 00:49:55,368 --> 00:49:58,955 [chanting in Hebrew] Hinei mah tov u-ma nayim. 786 00:49:59,414 --> 00:50:03,668 You can find out that from 50 relatives, 45 are killed. 787 00:50:03,793 --> 00:50:07,088 So they want to know and they want to open the chapter, 788 00:50:07,213 --> 00:50:08,464 which is lost. 789 00:50:08,589 --> 00:50:10,091 And I think it's great. 790 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:15,763 {\an8}[Lenka] I would like to invite you in the National Archives. 791 00:50:15,888 --> 00:50:19,600 On the tables, you can see all the documents which we were 792 00:50:19,726 --> 00:50:22,979 able to collect about your relatives and ancestors. 793 00:50:23,104 --> 00:50:26,691 The daughter of Jose Nachod and Karoline Jontof. 794 00:50:26,816 --> 00:50:28,943 [Randy] So Josef, the son of Gabriel and Eva. 795 00:50:29,068 --> 00:50:31,195 [Lenka] Yes. And mother Karoline, the daughter of 796 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,741 Jacob Jontof-Hutter and Franziska Zeimer. 797 00:50:34,866 --> 00:50:37,118 [Randy] So they're members of the Altneuschul, 798 00:50:37,243 --> 00:50:38,453 - that's where she was named. - [Lenka] Yes. 799 00:50:38,578 --> 00:50:40,079 [Randy] Look at that. 800 00:50:40,204 --> 00:50:42,707 How many generation you think are in there? 801 00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:47,253 - Five? Four? More. - What do you think, Joey? 802 00:50:48,421 --> 00:50:50,047 So we're walking through the family. 803 00:50:50,173 --> 00:50:51,632 - What's this now? - Yes. 804 00:50:51,758 --> 00:50:54,385 - Let's see. This is the birth. - Yes. 805 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:57,847 This is the birth record of Josef Nachod. 806 00:50:57,972 --> 00:50:59,348 - Okay. - Yes. 807 00:50:59,474 --> 00:51:02,894 With the father Gabriel and mother Eva. 808 00:51:04,187 --> 00:51:05,730 Does it say what their profession was? 809 00:51:05,855 --> 00:51:07,982 [Lenka in German] Hochzeitsbieter. 810 00:51:08,107 --> 00:51:09,942 [Randy] Oh, yeah. Hochzeitsbieter. 811 00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:11,819 So this one does-- When they died it says his profession 812 00:51:11,944 --> 00:51:14,197 is a-- a marriage presenter. 813 00:51:14,322 --> 00:51:15,823 - Like a wedding planner. - Yeah. 814 00:51:15,948 --> 00:51:18,159 So he was a wedding planner, Gabriel Nachod. 815 00:51:18,284 --> 00:51:20,328 And he must have planned his son's wedding too, right? 816 00:51:20,453 --> 00:51:21,913 [laughs] If that was his-- 817 00:51:22,038 --> 00:51:24,081 Okay, so we're going backwards in time. 818 00:51:24,207 --> 00:51:26,751 Joey, look at this one. So now we're at the marriage. 819 00:51:26,876 --> 00:51:29,253 Yes. There is a marriage of Gabriel. 820 00:51:29,378 --> 00:51:31,047 - 1801. Wow. - Yes. 821 00:51:31,172 --> 00:51:32,924 And it has the house number, 85. 822 00:51:33,049 --> 00:51:37,053 This is the census of the Jews in 1794. 823 00:51:37,178 --> 00:51:39,263 It's a really important collection. 824 00:51:39,388 --> 00:51:41,057 And so the interesting thing is Gabriel Nachod 825 00:51:41,182 --> 00:51:43,267 is listed as a schulsinger, a cantor. 826 00:51:43,976 --> 00:51:46,229 Remember, Pauline is Arnold Schoenberg's mother. 827 00:51:46,354 --> 00:51:49,899 Josef is her father. Gabriel is his father. 828 00:51:50,024 --> 00:51:53,569 And now it's says Gabriel is the son of Avigdor and Pessel. 829 00:51:54,153 --> 00:51:56,614 Okay. So we're getting into sort of more Jewish names. 830 00:51:56,739 --> 00:51:59,325 So this is the application for permission to get married. 831 00:51:59,450 --> 00:52:04,539 So it's Avigdor Nachod, Moyses Nachod's son, 832 00:52:04,664 --> 00:52:08,918 and then his bride, Pessel, Josef Bunzel's daughter. 833 00:52:09,043 --> 00:52:12,338 This is the maybe Jewish census or always of Jews from, 834 00:52:12,463 --> 00:52:18,219 uh, of, uh, living in Prague of 1729. 835 00:52:18,344 --> 00:52:22,014 [Randy] Moyses Benet. So the-- Moyses, son of Benet Nachod. 836 00:52:22,139 --> 00:52:26,561 His wife Hindele, and children 837 00:52:26,686 --> 00:52:30,731 Simcha and Fig-- Avigdor. 838 00:52:30,857 --> 00:52:32,859 [Randy] Figdor, yeah. Figdor, which is Avigdor, 839 00:52:32,984 --> 00:52:34,318 the same thing. And her daughter Rossel. 840 00:52:34,443 --> 00:52:36,445 [Lenka] There is a Benet Nachod. 841 00:52:36,571 --> 00:52:38,489 [Randy] And it says his occupation. 842 00:52:38,614 --> 00:52:40,992 - [Lenka] Yes. Juwelier. - A jeweler. 843 00:52:41,117 --> 00:52:43,286 - Yeah. Gems. - Yeah. So it's your-- your 844 00:52:43,411 --> 00:52:44,996 great-great-great-great- 845 00:52:45,121 --> 00:52:46,956 great-great-great grandfather, Benet Nachod. 846 00:52:47,081 --> 00:52:49,292 Yeah. So next time you tell me that I'm crazy, 847 00:52:49,417 --> 00:52:51,168 I'll tell you that our family did it. 848 00:52:53,546 --> 00:52:55,381 [Lenka] After the changes, 849 00:52:55,506 --> 00:52:59,552 so many people came without family, without maybe memories. 850 00:52:59,677 --> 00:53:02,513 {\an8}So for us, it's nice when the people are 851 00:53:02,638 --> 00:53:06,601 {\an8}able to find some information about the family, and especially 852 00:53:06,726 --> 00:53:09,854 {\an8}for the Jewish people, because a lot, lot of them, 853 00:53:10,813 --> 00:53:16,027 {\an8}uh, couldn't-- can't find, uh, the roots of the family. 854 00:53:20,364 --> 00:53:21,908 [Randy] My thinking is that the family 855 00:53:22,033 --> 00:53:24,076 came up to Prague around 1560 856 00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:25,995 because things changed in Venice. 857 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,539 The Venetians decide that they're going to burn 858 00:53:28,664 --> 00:53:31,042 all of the Jewish books that they can find. 859 00:53:31,167 --> 00:53:33,669 That's when this family of doctors, 860 00:53:33,794 --> 00:53:35,630 astronomers and philosophers, 861 00:53:35,755 --> 00:53:37,506 so they came up to Prague thinking it would be safe. 862 00:53:37,632 --> 00:53:39,133 And then in 1564, 863 00:53:39,258 --> 00:53:41,010 they had the same thing here in Prague. 864 00:53:42,345 --> 00:53:45,598 They're trying to escape these periodic persecutions. 865 00:53:46,641 --> 00:53:49,518 This is the first liber judeorum. 866 00:53:49,644 --> 00:53:51,938 It's from the 1500s. 867 00:53:52,063 --> 00:53:56,609 This is the actual book that they were using in 1579 868 00:53:56,734 --> 00:54:00,154 to record transactions involving Jews. 869 00:54:00,279 --> 00:54:02,698 And this one is in Czech, not German. 870 00:54:02,823 --> 00:54:05,952 So at this time, the King of Bohemia is Czech. 871 00:54:06,077 --> 00:54:07,703 And so they write all the records in Czech 872 00:54:07,828 --> 00:54:12,208 and here on the lower left is the mother-in-law of 873 00:54:12,333 --> 00:54:17,004 Salvator Chalfan, doctor, Jewish doctor. 874 00:54:17,129 --> 00:54:20,174 So Salvator Chalfan, we believe is the same as 875 00:54:20,299 --> 00:54:24,095 Abba Mari Chalfan, who is the son of Eliyahu Chalfan. 876 00:54:24,220 --> 00:54:26,180 Salvator was this Christian name 877 00:54:26,305 --> 00:54:28,641 that they would use with non-Jews, 878 00:54:28,766 --> 00:54:32,269 for Abba Mari Chalfan, who's our oldest ancestor 879 00:54:32,395 --> 00:54:33,729 who came here to Prague. 880 00:54:34,855 --> 00:54:37,650 These are books that they kept all 881 00:54:37,775 --> 00:54:42,029 of the transactions related to Jews because 882 00:54:42,154 --> 00:54:46,325 the Jews were allowed to own their houses and-- and inherit. 883 00:54:46,450 --> 00:54:48,160 Here it is. I found it. 884 00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:50,579 So this is-- see here's Frumetl. 885 00:54:50,705 --> 00:54:52,206 See it says her former husband. 886 00:54:52,331 --> 00:54:53,916 And this is new husband. 887 00:54:54,041 --> 00:54:55,876 And so maybe it's a transfer of the property 888 00:54:56,002 --> 00:54:59,380 and it has references then to other pages in other books. 889 00:54:59,505 --> 00:55:02,008 So in 1690, they're using this book 890 00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:04,885 to record the mortgages and transactions. 891 00:55:05,011 --> 00:55:06,595 So this is the Nachod family. 892 00:55:06,721 --> 00:55:09,890 So Arnold Schoenberg's mom is Pauline Nachod. 893 00:55:10,016 --> 00:55:11,934 - Yeah. - So this is her direct ancestor. 894 00:55:12,059 --> 00:55:15,479 Pauline was born in Prague in 1848. 895 00:55:15,604 --> 00:55:18,607 And her father's Joseph and his father's Gabriel. 896 00:55:18,733 --> 00:55:20,860 And Gabriel's father is Avigdor. 897 00:55:20,985 --> 00:55:23,320 And Avigdor's father is-- is Moyses 898 00:55:23,446 --> 00:55:25,656 and Moyses' father is Benet 899 00:55:25,781 --> 00:55:28,701 and Benet's mother is Frumetl. 900 00:55:28,826 --> 00:55:30,995 [laughs] Okay. So it just goes up, up, up, up, up. 901 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,456 Okay. So that's our ancestor. And Frumetl also. 902 00:55:33,581 --> 00:55:35,374 But this is such a useful document 903 00:55:35,499 --> 00:55:37,460 because it has the whole family. Right? This is not online. 904 00:55:37,585 --> 00:55:39,462 And maybe because when they scanned it, 905 00:55:39,587 --> 00:55:41,714 they didn't have a big enough scanner and they're just shocked 906 00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:43,507 that anybody wants to look at it. 907 00:55:43,632 --> 00:55:45,092 That's why they're letting us touch them because 908 00:55:45,217 --> 00:55:46,844 I'm the only person in 200 years 909 00:55:46,969 --> 00:55:48,262 who wants to look at this, right? 910 00:55:48,387 --> 00:55:51,098 [soft rock music playing] 911 00:55:54,143 --> 00:55:55,936 [Randy] I think I was maybe 912 00:55:56,062 --> 00:55:57,730 more surprised at how enjoyable it was for me 913 00:55:57,855 --> 00:56:00,191 retracing some of the steps with my son. 914 00:56:01,150 --> 00:56:03,819 Joey might have gained some appreciation of why 915 00:56:03,944 --> 00:56:06,072 I do my research and why I'm so persistent in 916 00:56:06,197 --> 00:56:08,157 tracking things down. 917 00:56:08,282 --> 00:56:10,659 I think he might have seen some of the beauty that's involved. 918 00:56:24,006 --> 00:56:29,053 ♪ 919 00:56:41,565 --> 00:56:44,485 [Julius] This is only a fragment of the former cemetery 920 00:56:44,610 --> 00:56:47,613 established about 1680 for the victims of a plague. 921 00:56:47,738 --> 00:56:51,492 {\an8}And then another wave of disease came about 1715. 922 00:56:51,617 --> 00:56:53,869 {\an8}Since 1787, Joseph II decided 923 00:56:53,994 --> 00:56:57,331 {\an8}all Jewish cemeteries should be outside of the town. 924 00:56:57,456 --> 00:57:00,668 So that's why they decided to use that place again. 925 00:57:00,793 --> 00:57:02,753 And they used it for another a hundred years. 926 00:57:03,462 --> 00:57:05,256 And I think that I read somewhere, 927 00:57:05,381 --> 00:57:08,175 there's about 30,000 graves altogether in this place. 928 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:12,513 1989 most of the cemetery was grabbed by the structure because 929 00:57:12,638 --> 00:57:15,224 they were developing a broadcasting station 930 00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:19,061 and they were also using it for interfering with 931 00:57:19,186 --> 00:57:21,272 the broadcasting of a Radio Free Europe 932 00:57:21,397 --> 00:57:24,191 and Voice of America, my father's favorites. 933 00:57:24,316 --> 00:57:26,193 Because of that, you know, bloody tower, 934 00:57:26,318 --> 00:57:28,487 we had to tune again and again and again to get the radio. 935 00:57:30,114 --> 00:57:32,449 You can hardly see the yellow building is the two towers. 936 00:57:32,575 --> 00:57:36,036 We all knew that the very last floor, there was a spies. 937 00:57:36,162 --> 00:57:37,621 There was, you know, 938 00:57:37,746 --> 00:57:40,040 counterespionage people listening to calls 939 00:57:40,166 --> 00:57:42,710 that we are connecting, knowing nothing. 940 00:57:42,835 --> 00:57:44,503 [Randy] Were a lot of graves lost when they put 941 00:57:44,628 --> 00:57:46,463 - in the-- the tower? - [Julius] Yeah. 942 00:57:46,589 --> 00:57:48,465 I think it's, yeah, say about 10% maximum is still left, 943 00:57:48,591 --> 00:57:50,509 maybe even less than 10%. 944 00:57:50,634 --> 00:57:52,595 [Randy] So 90% of the graves were removed 945 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,639 just to build that ugly postmodern-- 946 00:57:55,764 --> 00:57:57,975 Well, it's an industrial and brutal political act. 947 00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:59,685 - Yes. - Yeah. 948 00:57:59,810 --> 00:58:01,437 It's not primarily anti-Semitic, I would say. 949 00:58:01,562 --> 00:58:03,647 It's an industrial and brutal political act. 950 00:58:03,772 --> 00:58:05,441 - Right. - [Randy] Yeah. 951 00:58:05,566 --> 00:58:07,484 So sad because it was just right-- right before 952 00:58:07,610 --> 00:58:09,361 everything changed for the better. 953 00:58:09,486 --> 00:58:12,531 So to build the tower, they had to remove headstones? 954 00:58:12,656 --> 00:58:15,367 Yeah. But probably they destroyed all of those things. 955 00:58:15,492 --> 00:58:17,244 They just transferred it somewhere. 956 00:58:17,369 --> 00:58:19,288 I don't know what ritual they observed. 957 00:58:19,413 --> 00:58:20,915 Probably they didn't care. 958 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,625 [Randy] I've heard sometimes they show up 959 00:58:22,750 --> 00:58:24,043 as cobblestones in the street. I don't know. 960 00:58:24,168 --> 00:58:25,669 [Julius] It's about the skeletons. 961 00:58:25,794 --> 00:58:27,421 You know? What happened with the bodies? 962 00:58:27,546 --> 00:58:30,507 What kind of respect they paid those remnants? 963 00:58:30,633 --> 00:58:32,134 [Randy] I've never been able to 964 00:58:32,259 --> 00:58:34,345 find any of the graves of my family here. 965 00:58:35,721 --> 00:58:38,515 So Daniel Polakovic told me that he looked for 966 00:58:38,641 --> 00:58:40,100 the Nachod graves and he couldn't 967 00:58:40,226 --> 00:58:43,395 find the ones for, uh, Avigdor and Gabriel. 968 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,398 But he said-- he said they were around this area here 969 00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,776 that's sort of empty next to this big giant thing and-- 970 00:58:48,901 --> 00:58:51,612 and that he found one member of the family. 971 00:58:51,737 --> 00:58:53,906 So I'm gonna look for that member of the family. 972 00:58:54,031 --> 00:58:56,450 And it has a triangle at the top and a line down the middle 973 00:58:56,575 --> 00:58:58,452 because it's the wife and the husband together. 974 00:58:58,577 --> 00:59:01,622 Her name is Ester Winternitz, but she's born Nachod and she's 975 00:59:01,747 --> 00:59:05,751 the first cousin of Avigdor Daniel Nachod, our ancestor. 976 00:59:05,876 --> 00:59:07,378 So do you see a triangle? 977 00:59:07,503 --> 00:59:09,505 Ooh, there's one there. Look at that. Okay. 978 00:59:09,630 --> 00:59:11,674 [Julius] You can really close your eyes and go straight 979 00:59:11,799 --> 00:59:13,634 to it because those things happen all the time. 980 00:59:13,759 --> 00:59:15,135 [laughs] I know that. 981 00:59:15,261 --> 00:59:16,971 [Julius] I know what I'm talking about. 982 00:59:17,096 --> 00:59:18,847 Wait a second. I think it's this-- I think it's this one. 983 00:59:18,973 --> 00:59:20,516 It's hard to tell, but it looks like there's 984 00:59:20,641 --> 00:59:23,269 this line just like in the picture and a crack. 985 00:59:23,394 --> 00:59:24,895 - It's definitely this one. - [Julius] Yeah. Yeah. 986 00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:27,481 Wait, okay. So-- so it should be right here. 987 00:59:27,606 --> 00:59:30,859 It should say Josef Ausch-- her-- 988 00:59:31,402 --> 00:59:34,655 the neat thing about this is it references her ancestor. 989 00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:38,867 I see it in the picture. It says Joseph Ausch SeGal. 990 00:59:38,993 --> 00:59:42,788 So her-- her ancestor is that famous, the head 991 00:59:42,913 --> 00:59:47,584 of the land Rosh Medina, Joseph Ausch, who died in 1685. 992 00:59:50,754 --> 00:59:53,549 [Julius] But people still coming in here, you know, 993 00:59:53,674 --> 00:59:55,884 paying homage to the significant people, 994 00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:57,845 trying to find your ancestor's place, 995 00:59:59,346 --> 01:00:00,889 which is also great mitzvah. 996 01:00:02,057 --> 01:00:04,184 [sentimental music playing] 997 01:00:18,365 --> 01:00:20,034 {\an8}[Randy] Petr Wilheim is a cousin on 998 01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:21,952 {\an8} the [indistinct] side. 999 01:00:22,077 --> 01:00:23,620 Our families were separated after World War II 1000 01:00:23,746 --> 01:00:25,664 and they really had no contact at all. 1001 01:00:25,789 --> 01:00:28,042 It wasn't until I was doing genealogy research 1002 01:00:28,167 --> 01:00:30,836 in the '80s and '90s that a cousin contacted us. 1003 01:00:30,961 --> 01:00:33,005 And through that cousin I found Petr. 1004 01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:34,965 And then we met for the first time at 1005 01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:37,551 a family reunion that we did in 1996. 1006 01:00:39,803 --> 01:00:42,097 So I'm so happy that I was able to find him and meet him. 1007 01:00:42,222 --> 01:00:44,558 And I think he enjoys it also having cousins, uh, 1008 01:00:44,683 --> 01:00:46,560 like all of these families like mine, 1009 01:00:46,685 --> 01:00:48,228 where everybody's strewn all over the world. 1010 01:00:48,354 --> 01:00:50,272 And so one of the nice things about 1011 01:00:50,397 --> 01:00:52,983 genealogy is bringing all these families together. 1012 01:00:53,108 --> 01:00:55,652 Now, every time I come here, [laughs] we-- we hang out 1013 01:00:55,778 --> 01:00:58,697 together and we visit, uh, visit the cemetery where 1014 01:00:58,822 --> 01:01:00,366 he-- he works and volunteers. 1015 01:01:00,491 --> 01:01:02,576 And, uh, we took about 45 years for 1016 01:01:02,701 --> 01:01:04,161 everybody to come back together. 1017 01:01:04,286 --> 01:01:05,537 But now we're good friends. 1018 01:01:06,622 --> 01:01:07,706 - [Petr] My cousin. - [Randy] And here we are. 1019 01:01:07,831 --> 01:01:10,459 Well, that's-- that's the grave. 1020 01:01:16,423 --> 01:01:18,050 - That's his father. - Yeah. 1021 01:01:18,175 --> 01:01:19,676 - [speaking foreign language] - His mother, Hana. 1022 01:01:19,802 --> 01:01:22,471 - Uncle. - His uncle, Pavel. 1023 01:01:23,305 --> 01:01:25,599 - Rosvalto. - That's the grandfather. 1024 01:01:25,724 --> 01:01:30,437 - [speaking German] - He was from Austria. 1025 01:01:31,605 --> 01:01:34,983 So where it says no date, right, has just a question 1026 01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:37,611 mark, an... [speaking German] 1027 01:01:37,736 --> 01:01:42,616 [Petr speaking German] 1028 01:01:42,741 --> 01:01:45,285 {\an8}No one knows where they're-- 1029 01:01:45,411 --> 01:01:48,288 {\an8}they were murdered in which-- 1030 01:01:48,414 --> 01:01:53,252 {\an8}[words on screen] 1031 01:02:14,022 --> 01:02:16,775 {\an8}[words on screen] 1032 01:02:20,946 --> 01:02:23,407 [Randy] It's a pilgrimage site, I think, for people. 1033 01:02:24,116 --> 01:02:26,160 And, um, there it is. 1034 01:02:26,285 --> 01:02:28,495 Franz Kafka, he died very young. 1035 01:02:28,620 --> 01:02:31,373 His best friend, Max Brod was also 1036 01:02:31,498 --> 01:02:33,333 a music journalist and wrote reviews of 1037 01:02:33,459 --> 01:02:35,878 our-- our grandfather's performances in Prague. 1038 01:02:37,129 --> 01:02:38,922 [Arnie] What was your favorite book out of, uh-- 1039 01:02:39,047 --> 01:02:42,342 The Trial I really liked because it's really just 1040 01:02:42,468 --> 01:02:44,720 a nightmare about turning 30. [laughs] 1041 01:02:44,845 --> 01:02:46,722 The whole book. 1042 01:02:46,847 --> 01:02:48,807 He wakes up on his 30th birthday and by a year later he's dead. 1043 01:02:48,932 --> 01:02:50,726 So I always thought that that's really-- 1044 01:02:50,851 --> 01:02:53,145 it's all just about his anxiety of turning 30. 1045 01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:55,522 [sentimental music playing] 1046 01:02:59,943 --> 01:03:02,404 Everybody, welcome to this amazing 1047 01:03:02,529 --> 01:03:03,989 cousin event here in Prague. 1048 01:03:04,114 --> 01:03:05,824 I'm so happy to be here. 1049 01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:08,702 This is my son, Joey, who's on this adventure with me. 1050 01:03:08,827 --> 01:03:12,122 We just came from Vienna and we're seeing 1051 01:03:12,247 --> 01:03:15,876 all sorts of amazing documents and graves and things. 1052 01:03:16,001 --> 01:03:18,921 We're tracing our family history back 500 years. 1053 01:03:19,046 --> 01:03:21,840 And on the way we're discovering a lot of our cousins, 1054 01:03:21,965 --> 01:03:25,552 the first I'm gonna say about Michaela, who's very special. 1055 01:03:25,677 --> 01:03:27,846 I went and-- and found you. 1056 01:03:27,971 --> 01:03:30,015 Since then, Michaela and I have been very close. 1057 01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:32,809 [soft music playing] 1058 01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:54,456 [Michaela] 30 years ago, my neighbor told me, 1059 01:03:54,581 --> 01:03:57,459 "You have an American cousin here in house." 1060 01:03:57,584 --> 01:03:59,586 "No, I have no cousin in America." 1061 01:03:59,711 --> 01:04:02,339 "Yes, he's sitting in our house." 1062 01:04:04,216 --> 01:04:05,300 I came home. 1063 01:04:12,224 --> 01:04:16,520 So I first time saw Randy it was-- 1064 01:04:16,812 --> 01:04:20,065 it was very, very beautiful. 1065 01:04:20,190 --> 01:04:26,113 ♪ 1066 01:04:28,365 --> 01:04:31,743 My father died several years ago. 1067 01:04:31,868 --> 01:04:35,205 My brother died several years ago and, uh, ago. 1068 01:04:35,330 --> 01:04:40,127 And I was the only one knowing nobody here. 1069 01:04:40,252 --> 01:04:42,337 [Randy] Michaela took me immediately out 1070 01:04:42,462 --> 01:04:43,797 into the countryside. 1071 01:04:44,381 --> 01:04:47,217 [upbeat music playing] 1072 01:04:49,011 --> 01:04:50,929 I don't know anybody in Czech Republic. 1073 01:04:51,054 --> 01:04:52,681 Michaela's gonna show me around. 1074 01:04:52,806 --> 01:04:54,349 So we went to the countryside 1075 01:04:54,474 --> 01:04:56,184 and she said, "I wanna go hunting mushrooms." 1076 01:04:56,310 --> 01:04:58,437 [laughter] Now I had never done anything like that. 1077 01:04:58,562 --> 01:05:02,482 And-- and I thought, okay. Okay, we'll go for mushrooms. 1078 01:05:02,608 --> 01:05:04,192 So-- so we were walking through the forest 1079 01:05:04,318 --> 01:05:06,153 and I-- I saw a mushroom and I said, 1080 01:05:06,278 --> 01:05:07,696 "Michaela, Michaela, here's a mushroom." 1081 01:05:07,821 --> 01:05:09,656 And she says, "Ooh, that's strange. 1082 01:05:09,781 --> 01:05:11,158 Sure about that?" 1083 01:05:11,283 --> 01:05:12,659 Okay, we take it and put it in the basket. 1084 01:05:12,784 --> 01:05:14,661 [laughter] So-- so at the end, 1085 01:05:14,786 --> 01:05:17,539 she had all of these mushrooms that she wasn't sure about. 1086 01:05:17,664 --> 01:05:20,125 And I was, you know, I met her yesterday, right? 1087 01:05:20,250 --> 01:05:21,793 And she said, "Okay, I'll ask an expert." 1088 01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:23,670 And you-- you got out of the car and you went 1089 01:05:23,795 --> 01:05:26,131 and called this lady down and then talk, talk, talk. 1090 01:05:26,256 --> 01:05:27,591 And then you came back in the car 1091 01:05:27,716 --> 01:05:29,426 and said, "Yeah, I think it's okay." 1092 01:05:29,718 --> 01:05:33,055 Right? And so they went home and you made this delicious stew. 1093 01:05:33,180 --> 01:05:35,015 It smelled good, but I thought 1094 01:05:35,140 --> 01:05:36,683 I was probably going to die, right? 1095 01:05:36,808 --> 01:05:39,519 So that-- so I waited until the first bite 1096 01:05:39,645 --> 01:05:41,605 and I thought, "Okay, she didn't die immediately, 1097 01:05:41,730 --> 01:05:43,357 so maybe I should try it too." 1098 01:05:43,482 --> 01:05:45,484 And I-- and I ate and the food was delicious. 1099 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:47,819 I-- I remember that like it was yesterday. 1100 01:05:52,616 --> 01:05:53,950 [laughs] 1101 01:05:54,326 --> 01:05:56,870 My name is Radmila Iblová. 1102 01:05:56,995 --> 01:06:03,043 And we, uh, discovered the really fantastic, 1103 01:06:03,168 --> 01:06:07,047 um, family tree thanks to Randy. 1104 01:06:07,172 --> 01:06:14,137 I didn't know about nobody of my family, um, roots. 1105 01:06:14,262 --> 01:06:17,891 And I remember the date when we wrote him. 1106 01:06:18,016 --> 01:06:21,812 "Hi, Randy, do you know anything about our family tree?" 1107 01:06:21,937 --> 01:06:24,439 And he answered immediately. 1108 01:06:24,564 --> 01:06:27,818 "You know that you have your very close relatives 1109 01:06:27,943 --> 01:06:31,238 in Milan and also in Haifa." 1110 01:06:31,363 --> 01:06:34,408 And we said, "No, we didn't know about that 1111 01:06:34,533 --> 01:06:39,329 because nobody knew that somebody survived the war 1112 01:06:39,454 --> 01:06:40,956 in the Czech Republic." 1113 01:06:41,081 --> 01:06:45,085 And we began the new life, thanks to Randy. 1114 01:06:45,919 --> 01:06:49,506 My mother, she is Renata Pavelková, 1115 01:06:50,215 --> 01:06:53,719 she was born in the partly Jewish family. 1116 01:06:53,844 --> 01:06:58,765 And unfortunately, she was as a seven years old child, 1117 01:06:59,182 --> 01:07:01,893 uh, in Terezín camp. 1118 01:07:02,853 --> 01:07:04,896 Luckily, she survived. 1119 01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:07,816 But unfortunately for a very long time, 1120 01:07:07,941 --> 01:07:10,485 she was not able to talk about this history. 1121 01:07:39,514 --> 01:07:42,309 It's an amazing, amazing privilege to meet someone 1122 01:07:42,434 --> 01:07:44,644 who was actually a witness to that event. 1123 01:07:45,395 --> 01:07:47,814 I just feel the need to find all of you. 1124 01:07:47,939 --> 01:07:49,566 And it makes me so happy to see all of you 1125 01:07:49,691 --> 01:07:51,276 sitting here today, 1126 01:07:51,401 --> 01:07:53,069 especially the little ones at the end there. 1127 01:07:53,195 --> 01:07:55,113 So thank you all for coming. 1128 01:07:55,238 --> 01:07:57,365 Thank you. And, uh, for allowing me to introduce, 1129 01:07:57,491 --> 01:07:59,201 Joey, my next generation 1130 01:07:59,326 --> 01:08:01,995 who may or may not be interested in genealogy. 1131 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,538 We're-- 1132 01:08:03,997 --> 01:08:05,248 - I'll leave an open mind. - [Randy] You're gonna have 1133 01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:06,917 - an open mind. Good. - Yeah. 1134 01:08:07,042 --> 01:08:08,335 - Open-minded. - [Randy] That's-- that's all 1135 01:08:08,460 --> 01:08:09,252 - that's required. - It's very nice 1136 01:08:09,377 --> 01:08:10,212 to meet all of you. 1137 01:08:11,087 --> 01:08:12,297 [laughter] 1138 01:08:12,756 --> 01:08:15,634 [soft music playing] 1139 01:08:37,989 --> 01:08:40,492 [sad music playing] 1140 01:08:48,124 --> 01:08:50,085 {\an8}[archivist] The archive of the Jewish Museum in Prague 1141 01:08:50,210 --> 01:08:51,628 {\an8}look after the records 1142 01:08:51,753 --> 01:08:53,421 {\an8}of the individual Jewish communities 1143 01:08:53,547 --> 01:08:56,091 {\an8}in Bohemia and Moravia and Silesia. 1144 01:08:56,216 --> 01:08:58,677 We have one simple and serious goal. 1145 01:08:58,802 --> 01:09:03,348 Protect the records and preserve them to the next generation. 1146 01:09:04,140 --> 01:09:05,517 Like a testimony. 1147 01:09:05,642 --> 01:09:07,519 Yeah, yeah. 1148 01:09:07,644 --> 01:09:09,604 So you have a bunch of things I think you found for my family. 1149 01:09:09,729 --> 01:09:12,983 Yeah. We have here, uh-- uh, a familianten book. 1150 01:09:13,108 --> 01:09:14,484 It was a quota, a limit 1151 01:09:14,609 --> 01:09:16,152 on the number of Jewish families. 1152 01:09:16,278 --> 01:09:18,363 So one person had to die before the next person 1153 01:09:18,488 --> 01:09:19,990 could get married. 1154 01:09:20,115 --> 01:09:21,950 And they kept track of these in giant books. 1155 01:09:22,075 --> 01:09:24,744 [archivist] There is the family of Gabriel Nachod. 1156 01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:26,246 [Randy] Right? So that's Nachod Gabriel 1157 01:09:26,371 --> 01:09:28,164 and that's his father of Avigdor 1158 01:09:28,290 --> 01:09:30,834 and his mother Pessel and has a date under that. 1159 01:09:30,959 --> 01:09:33,336 And then the next-- next column is his wife. 1160 01:09:33,461 --> 01:09:36,882 Ava, the daughter of Moises Zodex. 1161 01:09:37,549 --> 01:09:39,634 And-- and he gives sort of a number 1162 01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:41,303 when they were married in 1801. 1163 01:09:41,428 --> 01:09:43,054 Permission to-- to do marriage. 1164 01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:45,307 [man] It's like a eugenics program. 1165 01:09:45,432 --> 01:09:48,268 And if you look on this column here, it has-- has the children. 1166 01:09:48,977 --> 01:09:51,813 Has the sons. Uh, not the-- not the daughters. 1167 01:09:51,938 --> 01:09:53,064 They didn't list the daughters. 1168 01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:54,941 So first was Simon, who died. 1169 01:09:55,066 --> 01:09:57,277 And then there's Philipp and Josef, 1170 01:09:57,402 --> 01:09:59,821 who's our great-great-grandfather. 1171 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,491 Can see there's some kind of announcements 1172 01:10:03,617 --> 01:10:05,035 to the marriage. 1173 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,620 [Randy] He was allowed to get married 1174 01:10:06,745 --> 01:10:08,163 because his older brother had moved away. 1175 01:10:08,288 --> 01:10:10,457 He went to Vienna to study medicine 1176 01:10:10,582 --> 01:10:11,750 and then ended up in Hungary. 1177 01:10:11,875 --> 01:10:13,501 - Got it. - Where he was a doctor. 1178 01:10:13,627 --> 01:10:16,546 And so, uh, that's why our great-great-grandfather 1179 01:10:16,671 --> 01:10:18,173 Josef was allowed to get married. 1180 01:10:18,298 --> 01:10:19,758 Yeah. The Pinkas synagogue. 1181 01:10:19,883 --> 01:10:22,719 And it's-- it says the date there in 1845. 1182 01:10:22,844 --> 01:10:26,014 So that's our great-great grandparents' marriage contract. 1183 01:10:26,139 --> 01:10:28,224 And that their marriage is gonna be announced. 1184 01:10:28,350 --> 01:10:30,685 [archivist] When you wanted to-- to get married, 1185 01:10:30,810 --> 01:10:33,521 you have to pay some money to the state. 1186 01:10:33,647 --> 01:10:35,607 There is some kind of records, 1187 01:10:35,732 --> 01:10:39,194 some kind of documents that they pay 500 florins. 1188 01:10:39,319 --> 01:10:40,862 It's like the receipts. 1189 01:10:41,154 --> 01:10:42,906 Well, that's how the-- the government raised money 1190 01:10:43,031 --> 01:10:45,033 from the Jews by charging fees 1191 01:10:45,158 --> 01:10:46,618 every time they needed to do something. 1192 01:10:46,743 --> 01:10:48,244 So every-- every time you-- 1193 01:10:48,370 --> 01:10:49,996 you got married or you opened a new business 1194 01:10:50,121 --> 01:10:52,666 or you built a house or sold something, right? 1195 01:10:52,791 --> 01:10:53,875 Just like today. 1196 01:10:55,877 --> 01:10:58,213 This is in-- in Hebrew or Yiddish. 1197 01:10:58,338 --> 01:10:59,422 Which-- which is it? 1198 01:10:59,756 --> 01:11:01,299 Daniel, you're-- Daniel. 1199 01:11:01,424 --> 01:11:03,510 [Randy] You're the expert at reading this. 1200 01:11:03,635 --> 01:11:04,928 Is it Hebrew or Yiddish? 1201 01:11:05,428 --> 01:11:06,513 {\an8}What is it? 1202 01:11:11,101 --> 01:11:12,477 {\an8}[Randy] 1756. Right? 1203 01:11:12,602 --> 01:11:14,270 {\an8}It must be 17-- 'cause this is Avigdor. 1204 01:11:14,396 --> 01:11:16,064 This is the father of Gabriel 1205 01:11:16,189 --> 01:11:17,899 who we just saw the familianten. 1206 01:11:18,024 --> 01:11:20,735 This is a lawsuit between Avigdor Nachod 1207 01:11:20,860 --> 01:11:24,322 and his employer, a guy named Beer Schefteles. 1208 01:11:24,447 --> 01:11:26,616 It's session protocols of the beth din, 1209 01:11:26,741 --> 01:11:28,368 of the rabbinical court. 1210 01:11:28,493 --> 01:11:30,328 This is really amazing 1211 01:11:30,453 --> 01:11:34,207 how much detail you have of the day-to-day lives. 1212 01:11:34,332 --> 01:11:37,544 [Randy] This is our great great-great-great-grandfather. 1213 01:11:37,919 --> 01:11:40,672 This is an event that happened over 250 years ago 1214 01:11:40,797 --> 01:11:42,173 and here we are looking at it. 1215 01:11:42,632 --> 01:11:44,509 You feel like you almost know 'em a little bit, right? 1216 01:11:44,634 --> 01:11:46,886 [archivist] Perhaps you have heard about a great expulsion 1217 01:11:47,012 --> 01:11:50,265 of the Jews during the era of Maria Theresa. 1218 01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:51,933 [Randy] Look at that. 1219 01:11:52,058 --> 01:11:53,309 Avigdor and his whole family were expelled 1220 01:11:53,435 --> 01:11:55,645 from Prague in 1745. 1221 01:11:55,979 --> 01:11:58,231 And then they were allowed to return in 1748. 1222 01:12:11,703 --> 01:12:14,998 So the Pinkas synagogue kept a book recording the-- 1223 01:12:15,123 --> 01:12:16,499 who owned the seat basically, right? 1224 01:12:16,624 --> 01:12:18,793 It was-- it was like a property record. 1225 01:12:21,796 --> 01:12:23,882 {\an8}[Randy] So now we'll have an idea where he was 1226 01:12:24,007 --> 01:12:26,342 {\an8}in the Pinkas synagogue where they were sitting. 1227 01:12:26,801 --> 01:12:30,096 So this is a tax book for Manes Nachod, right, 1228 01:12:30,221 --> 01:12:31,681 from 1685. 1229 01:12:31,806 --> 01:12:33,850 Benet Nachod and his father, Manes, 1230 01:12:33,975 --> 01:12:37,062 apparently they were frequent visitors to the Leipzig Fair 1231 01:12:37,187 --> 01:12:39,606 where people came from far and wide to trade things. 1232 01:12:39,731 --> 01:12:41,691 {\an8}And you have a little book here too. What's that? 1233 01:12:49,741 --> 01:12:51,743 {\an8}And when did he die? When does it say he died? 1234 01:12:53,870 --> 01:12:56,081 {\an8}1586. Oh, my gosh. 1235 01:12:56,915 --> 01:12:59,584 And that-- so that grave is in the old cemetery? 1236 01:13:01,127 --> 01:13:03,088 {\an8}Are you gonna show that? Will you show that to us? 1237 01:13:03,755 --> 01:13:07,175 {\an8}[dramatic music playing] 1238 01:13:15,767 --> 01:13:17,060 [Randy] Yeah, it does. 1239 01:13:17,936 --> 01:13:22,023 Daniel's gonna show us, he says the oldest grave of-- 1240 01:13:22,148 --> 01:13:24,818 of the Chalfan family here. 1241 01:13:24,943 --> 01:13:31,116 ♪ 1242 01:13:43,211 --> 01:13:44,629 The Nachod family is there? 1243 01:13:46,047 --> 01:13:48,341 [Daniel] The father of the family Manes. 1244 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,094 So which one-- So that's Manes Nachod? 1245 01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:53,972 {\an8}And that's Frumetl. 1246 01:13:54,556 --> 01:13:57,767 Frumetl, the wife of Manes Nachod, 1247 01:13:57,892 --> 01:13:59,602 daughter of Joseph Ausch. 1248 01:14:03,314 --> 01:14:04,399 {\an8}[Randy] We saw lots of-- 1249 01:14:05,358 --> 01:14:08,111 {\an8}[Joey] You're saying he's rich because the grave is fancy? 1250 01:14:30,133 --> 01:14:31,676 I brought the Wachstein book with me. 1251 01:14:31,801 --> 01:14:33,136 So let's-- let's look at that. 1252 01:14:33,261 --> 01:14:34,345 I thought we might need this... 1253 01:14:35,805 --> 01:14:37,182 because there's so much back and forth 1254 01:14:37,307 --> 01:14:39,475 from-- from Vienna and Prague. 1255 01:14:39,601 --> 01:14:41,853 So let's look up Heschel and see what it says. 1256 01:14:41,978 --> 01:14:43,062 So Heschel-- 1257 01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:46,608 Heschel ben-- Elia. See Chalfan. 1258 01:14:46,733 --> 01:14:48,776 So the name was-- was Chalfan. 1259 01:15:11,132 --> 01:15:12,300 {\an8}It's a long time ago. 1260 01:15:12,425 --> 01:15:13,509 It is. 1261 01:15:15,803 --> 01:15:20,099 {\an8}[Randy] Abba Mari, the son of Dr. Elia Chalfan 1262 01:15:21,476 --> 01:15:23,269 {\an8}from 1586. Wow. 1263 01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:28,191 [soft music playing] 1264 01:15:35,782 --> 01:15:38,618 There aren't too many other places in Europe left 1265 01:15:39,118 --> 01:15:41,079 that have any Jewish character, 1266 01:15:41,204 --> 01:15:45,667 let alone something as moving as the Old Cemetery in Prague, 1267 01:15:45,792 --> 01:15:48,002 which is, you know, not only beautiful 1268 01:15:48,127 --> 01:15:50,588 to look at, but also the final resting place 1269 01:15:50,713 --> 01:15:52,340 of so many of my family members. 1270 01:15:52,465 --> 01:15:54,300 So you have to be grateful for what they have. 1271 01:15:58,805 --> 01:16:00,723 [upbeat music playing] 1272 01:16:00,848 --> 01:16:02,767 Going to Theresienstadt is difficult. 1273 01:16:02,892 --> 01:16:05,144 It's like a ghost town in a way, 1274 01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:07,146 and yet there's still people living there 1275 01:16:07,272 --> 01:16:10,066 because it was originally a city, it was a garrison town. 1276 01:16:10,775 --> 01:16:15,363 It's just bizarre being in a former Nazi concentration camp 1277 01:16:15,488 --> 01:16:17,991 and then seeing its function as an ordinary city. 1278 01:16:22,662 --> 01:16:24,914 {\an8}When the Nazis took over Czechoslovakia 1279 01:16:25,039 --> 01:16:27,500 {\an8}and they started sending trainloads of Jews 1280 01:16:27,625 --> 01:16:31,421 {\an8}from all over Czechoslovakia, Austria, Germany. 1281 01:16:31,546 --> 01:16:33,965 Some came from Holland, Denmark, there were well over 1282 01:16:34,090 --> 01:16:36,551 100,000 Jews, I think 133,000 1283 01:16:36,676 --> 01:16:38,594 who were sent here during World War II. 1284 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,180 Wherever humans are, they're gonna make music 1285 01:16:41,306 --> 01:16:43,558 and they're gonna write and they're gonna paint. 1286 01:16:43,683 --> 01:16:45,435 You know, artists have to do this 1287 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,562 wherever they are, no matter what the conditions. 1288 01:16:48,062 --> 01:16:50,315 Viktor Ullmann was a student of my grandfather, 1289 01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:51,983 Arnold Schoenberg in Vienna. 1290 01:16:52,275 --> 01:16:55,111 This is a poster from a concert that they had here 1291 01:16:55,236 --> 01:16:58,656 in Theresienstadt and it has all the composers listed. 1292 01:16:59,198 --> 01:17:00,867 People attended real concerts, 1293 01:17:00,992 --> 01:17:03,161 and even my grandfather's music was played here. 1294 01:17:04,704 --> 01:17:09,083 So sometime in July 1942, my great-grandfather, Siegmund, 1295 01:17:09,208 --> 01:17:11,252 was given a notice, told to show up 1296 01:17:11,377 --> 01:17:13,087 at the train station sent here. 1297 01:17:13,212 --> 01:17:15,548 It was one of the most crowded times in the ghetto. 1298 01:17:15,673 --> 01:17:17,508 It's hard to imagine it now, and it's sort of empty. 1299 01:17:17,633 --> 01:17:20,762 But in a town that was built for 3,000 to 5,000 people, 1300 01:17:20,887 --> 01:17:23,556 there were 50,000 Jewish prisoners. 1301 01:17:23,973 --> 01:17:26,768 So people were just piled on top of each other. 1302 01:17:27,226 --> 01:17:30,146 And then after two months, they started deporting people 1303 01:17:30,271 --> 01:17:32,357 to the east, to the extermination camps. 1304 01:17:32,940 --> 01:17:37,862 And, uh, my great-grandfather and-- and my great-grandmother's 1305 01:17:37,987 --> 01:17:40,740 sister were deported on the second-- 1306 01:17:40,865 --> 01:17:43,743 second train to Treblinka where people 1307 01:17:43,868 --> 01:17:45,912 upon arrival, stripped of all their clothing 1308 01:17:46,037 --> 01:17:48,247 and put in gas chambers and killed. 1309 01:17:48,373 --> 01:17:51,167 He was murdered probably within hours of arrival. 1310 01:17:51,292 --> 01:17:54,629 He knew that my mom existed, but he never got to meet her. 1311 01:18:03,721 --> 01:18:06,349 For me, though, it's not how I imagined Theresienstadt. 1312 01:18:06,474 --> 01:18:08,393 I imagined it as my great-grandfather 1313 01:18:08,518 --> 01:18:10,144 experienced it. 1314 01:18:10,269 --> 01:18:12,438 This overcrowding and the smell and the hunger 1315 01:18:12,563 --> 01:18:14,857 and sickness, that's all absent when I go there. 1316 01:18:14,982 --> 01:18:17,026 And there's just sort of nothing to bring it back. 1317 01:18:20,571 --> 01:18:25,910 ♪ 1318 01:18:33,584 --> 01:18:36,421 We're gonna go to one of these small towns called Ustek, 1319 01:18:36,546 --> 01:18:38,840 where the Ausch family, some of our ancestors live. 1320 01:18:39,799 --> 01:18:41,717 Ausch is the-- I guess the German name for Ustek . 1321 01:18:48,057 --> 01:18:51,102 {\an8}[Achab] Matzevos are very poetical 1322 01:18:51,227 --> 01:18:54,147 {\an8}for the man who knows Hebrew. 1323 01:18:54,272 --> 01:18:57,108 And when you are interesting in the Hebrew 1324 01:18:57,233 --> 01:19:00,611 and in the text written on the tombstones, 1325 01:19:00,736 --> 01:19:03,573 you must do it the rest of your life. 1326 01:19:03,698 --> 01:19:06,742 It is poetry, it is mystery. 1327 01:19:06,868 --> 01:19:12,748 I knew that's my task. I do it 20 years without money. 1328 01:19:12,874 --> 01:19:17,170 I am going on the cemeteries, make pics and rewriting 1329 01:19:17,295 --> 01:19:20,089 of the epitaphs, and translating it. 1330 01:19:22,383 --> 01:19:24,677 [man] The main part of our work, uh, 1331 01:19:24,802 --> 01:19:26,637 are the abandoned cemeteries 1332 01:19:26,762 --> 01:19:28,973 in the border area of Czech Republic. 1333 01:19:29,098 --> 01:19:31,684 The first was the restoration. 1334 01:19:31,809 --> 01:19:35,897 And when the cemetery was able to-- to be documented, 1335 01:19:36,022 --> 01:19:38,191 we can start to making the map 1336 01:19:38,316 --> 01:19:41,235 and put number to each gravestone. 1337 01:19:42,069 --> 01:19:45,072 I have it in-- in our papers because, 1338 01:19:45,198 --> 01:19:48,034 uh, now is not very well, uh, light 1339 01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:51,370 to read this, uh, very properly. 1340 01:19:51,496 --> 01:19:53,748 Yeah, it's very hard to read. 1341 01:19:55,374 --> 01:19:57,585 Rosh Medina is here on the second line. 1342 01:19:57,710 --> 01:19:59,086 Rosh Medina. 1343 01:19:59,212 --> 01:20:00,338 [Randy] Medina, okay. So that's-- 1344 01:20:00,463 --> 01:20:01,923 that's what you had here. 1345 01:20:02,048 --> 01:20:03,549 Every time he's mentioned on his grave 1346 01:20:03,674 --> 01:20:04,967 and on all the other graves 1347 01:20:05,092 --> 01:20:06,761 and on the Torah curtains they say, 1348 01:20:06,886 --> 01:20:08,846 Rosh Medina, which means the 'head of the land.' 1349 01:20:09,555 --> 01:20:11,307 So what does that mean head of the land? 1350 01:20:11,432 --> 01:20:14,852 When we went to the archives, we have these statutes 1351 01:20:14,977 --> 01:20:16,562 that they made for the Jews 1352 01:20:16,687 --> 01:20:19,065 outside of Prague for the Landesjudenschaft, 1353 01:20:19,190 --> 01:20:20,608 it's called for the Country Jews. 1354 01:20:21,025 --> 01:20:25,655 And he is the first signatory of the statutes in 1659. 1355 01:20:25,780 --> 01:20:28,533 So that's why I think he's known as the head of the land 1356 01:20:28,658 --> 01:20:31,953 because he was the leader of the country Jews in Bohemia. 1357 01:20:32,078 --> 01:20:33,162 [Joey] Interesting, right? 1358 01:20:40,086 --> 01:20:41,170 Here. 1359 01:20:44,465 --> 01:20:46,342 We are only a grass. 1360 01:20:47,009 --> 01:20:51,722 We are going away when the wind blows. 1361 01:20:52,014 --> 01:20:54,976 So this is the reason why we put between this, 1362 01:20:55,101 --> 01:20:58,145 uh, and the stone. 1363 01:20:58,271 --> 01:21:00,815 And this stone. A bit of the nature. 1364 01:21:02,483 --> 01:21:08,698 As the Talmud teach, you will never finish your work, 1365 01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:14,370 but be sure without your work 1366 01:21:14,787 --> 01:21:18,583 wouldn't be finished the universe. 1367 01:21:20,835 --> 01:21:27,216 ♪ 1368 01:21:41,856 --> 01:21:43,566 [Randy] So what is this honey-- honey liqueur, 1369 01:21:43,691 --> 01:21:45,318 honey brandy, something like that? 1370 01:21:45,443 --> 01:21:47,236 [man] Something like that. 1371 01:21:47,361 --> 01:21:49,739 [Randy] Okay. And thank you to Achab for finding him. 1372 01:21:49,864 --> 01:21:51,616 Otherwise I never would've found him. 1373 01:21:51,741 --> 01:21:53,200 So, L'Chaim. 1374 01:21:53,326 --> 01:21:54,452 [all] L'Chaim. 1375 01:21:55,202 --> 01:21:56,287 [Randy] Not bad. 1376 01:21:57,371 --> 01:22:00,791 350 years ago, that was our family living here. 1377 01:22:00,916 --> 01:22:02,710 And now, here we are toasting them. 1378 01:22:02,835 --> 01:22:03,919 Pretty fun. 1379 01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:10,926 ♪ 1380 01:22:45,002 --> 01:22:47,505 [Randy] When I first came here, I don't know if-- 1381 01:22:47,630 --> 01:22:50,049 if you remember, I think the-- the person who told me 1382 01:22:50,174 --> 01:22:52,677 that you-- your family was here or your father was here, 1383 01:22:52,802 --> 01:22:55,888 was-- was our cousin Mischa in Santa Barbara. 1384 01:22:56,013 --> 01:22:58,099 In the '70s-- '70s or-- 1385 01:22:58,224 --> 01:22:59,558 And he visited you in the '70s, right? 1386 01:22:59,684 --> 01:23:01,143 - Yeah. - [Randy] Yeah. 1387 01:23:01,268 --> 01:23:02,812 But, uh, Mischa, I-- I just got news today 1388 01:23:02,937 --> 01:23:04,438 actually that he died. 1389 01:23:04,563 --> 01:23:05,815 - He died today this morning. - [gasps] No! 1390 01:23:05,940 --> 01:23:07,775 Yeah, this morning. I'm sorry. 1391 01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,443 - This morning. - [Randy] I'm sorry. Yeah. 1392 01:23:09,568 --> 01:23:11,028 - I just got-- I just got the-- - He was 100. 1393 01:23:11,153 --> 01:23:12,571 [Randy] He was 100 years old. 1394 01:23:12,697 --> 01:23:14,281 Um, and I saw him-- 1395 01:23:14,407 --> 01:23:16,325 I can remember in Santa Barbara, it was so-- 1396 01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:20,287 such a nice small house with a very nice view. 1397 01:23:20,413 --> 01:23:21,997 - [Randy] Yeah. - On the Santa Barbara. 1398 01:23:22,123 --> 01:23:23,791 Santa Barbara. It was beautiful. 1399 01:23:23,916 --> 01:23:25,793 And they were so nice to me. 1400 01:23:25,918 --> 01:23:28,796 I went with him to the shoemaker with-- 1401 01:23:28,921 --> 01:23:30,256 with his shoe. 1402 01:23:30,381 --> 01:23:32,258 It was, uh, in front of the mission 1403 01:23:32,383 --> 01:23:34,051 - there in Santa Barbara. - Yeah. [laughs] 1404 01:23:34,176 --> 01:23:36,679 Yeah. And it was beautiful. 1405 01:23:36,804 --> 01:23:38,848 He's the reason I found you because he told me 1406 01:23:39,306 --> 01:23:41,892 we have a cousin in Prague and that's why I looked you up. 1407 01:23:42,017 --> 01:23:43,602 - [Michaela] Yeah. - Very sad. Very sad. 1408 01:23:43,728 --> 01:23:44,770 But he brought us together. 1409 01:23:44,895 --> 01:23:46,188 [laughs] 1410 01:23:48,190 --> 01:23:51,610 [somber music playing] 1411 01:24:11,130 --> 01:24:13,966 {\an8}[soft music playing] 1412 01:25:04,517 --> 01:25:07,520 The Pinkas synagogue was the family synagogue 1413 01:25:07,645 --> 01:25:10,856 of the Nachods back in the 17th century. 1414 01:25:11,357 --> 01:25:14,443 So they had their seats here and they donated 1415 01:25:14,568 --> 01:25:17,196 a big Torah curtain and also a Torah mantle 1416 01:25:17,321 --> 01:25:18,656 to cover the Torah. 1417 01:25:18,781 --> 01:25:20,741 They were its prominent members. 1418 01:25:21,784 --> 01:25:24,787 Those would all be our cousins and the Jontof family there. 1419 01:25:34,463 --> 01:25:36,507 {\an8}So this is supposedly the robe 1420 01:25:36,924 --> 01:25:40,553 {\an8}and flag of Shlomo Molcho, who was a Spanish Jew 1421 01:25:40,678 --> 01:25:43,889 {\an8}who fled from Spain and then became sort of a preacher, 1422 01:25:44,431 --> 01:25:46,600 {\an8}uh, talking about the Messiah coming. 1423 01:25:46,725 --> 01:25:49,395 And he tried to form an army to take over Palestine. 1424 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,815 I think our family probably brought them up to Prague 1425 01:25:52,940 --> 01:25:54,984 from Italy because Shlomo Molcho was down in-- 1426 01:25:55,109 --> 01:25:57,319 in Italy and our family was involved with him. 1427 01:25:57,444 --> 01:25:59,113 You could wear that to the Met Gala. 1428 01:25:59,989 --> 01:26:01,907 Yeah. [laughs] 1429 01:26:02,032 --> 01:26:03,367 I don't think I wanna wear it. 1430 01:26:03,701 --> 01:26:05,452 Uh, I don't want to end up like Shlomo Molcho. 1431 01:26:05,578 --> 01:26:07,204 He was burned at the stake after all. 1432 01:26:09,164 --> 01:26:11,458 You think when they had the ghetto here 200 years ago, 1433 01:26:11,584 --> 01:26:13,252 they had, what is it called? 1434 01:26:13,377 --> 01:26:14,712 Nut Glida? 1435 01:26:14,837 --> 01:26:16,380 Um, I'm gonna guess not. 1436 01:26:16,672 --> 01:26:17,756 Probably not. 1437 01:26:18,424 --> 01:26:19,800 But you never know. 1438 01:26:21,594 --> 01:26:22,636 Ooh, it's s dripping. 1439 01:26:23,804 --> 01:26:25,514 It was good. It was pretty good. 1440 01:26:25,639 --> 01:26:26,724 I like the pastry. 1441 01:26:26,849 --> 01:26:28,058 [Randy] Gonna ruin your dinner. 1442 01:26:30,436 --> 01:26:31,437 This can be my dinner. 1443 01:26:31,562 --> 01:26:32,646 I don't think I care. 1444 01:26:35,024 --> 01:26:36,734 We gotta go back to Vienna 1445 01:26:36,859 --> 01:26:39,028 to find those Chalfan graves that Wachstein found 1446 01:26:39,153 --> 01:26:40,279 and see where that takes us. 1447 01:26:41,113 --> 01:26:42,740 And Vienna's good. We know people there. 1448 01:26:45,075 --> 01:26:48,954 [upbeat music playing] 1449 01:27:16,148 --> 01:27:17,983 [Randy] Well, the archivists for the city 1450 01:27:18,108 --> 01:27:21,236 have brought the archives for the entire city here to-- 1451 01:27:21,362 --> 01:27:24,657 to this building they call the Gasometer. 1452 01:27:24,949 --> 01:27:28,243 Uh, it's an old natural gas storage facility. 1453 01:27:28,369 --> 01:27:30,913 Every document is a clue. Right? 1454 01:27:31,038 --> 01:27:33,874 It's like, you know, we're going on a treasure hunt 1455 01:27:34,667 --> 01:27:36,502 and who knows what we're gonna find? 1456 01:27:36,627 --> 01:27:37,962 The birth should have the person's name 1457 01:27:38,087 --> 01:27:39,088 and the date that they were born 1458 01:27:39,213 --> 01:27:40,589 and the parents' names. 1459 01:27:40,714 --> 01:27:42,341 But there's always a chance you're 1460 01:27:42,466 --> 01:27:43,884 gonna find something you didn't know was there. 1461 01:27:44,009 --> 01:27:46,053 The archivist got me all the books. 1462 01:27:46,845 --> 01:27:48,722 So I get to show you all these neat things. 1463 01:27:48,847 --> 01:27:49,932 Oh, I love this stuff. 1464 01:27:50,641 --> 01:27:51,725 - Okay. - [Joey] You're weird. 1465 01:27:51,850 --> 01:27:53,143 [Randy] I am weird. I know. 1466 01:27:53,894 --> 01:27:56,522 You see the date there? 1632. 1467 01:27:56,981 --> 01:27:59,233 So this is the property book, the Grundbuch. 1468 01:27:59,358 --> 01:28:01,276 So, it is like a property register 1469 01:28:01,402 --> 01:28:04,613 of the Jews in Vienna in 1632. 1470 01:28:04,738 --> 01:28:06,740 This is one of the only records we have 1471 01:28:06,865 --> 01:28:12,329 of our ancestor Heschel, Elias, Jewish doctor. 1472 01:28:12,454 --> 01:28:15,499 So he's Heschel, the son of Elias, the Jewish doctor. 1473 01:28:15,624 --> 01:28:18,877 So Elias is the one that got permission from Rudolf II 1474 01:28:19,003 --> 01:28:24,717 to move from Prague to Vienna in 1597, I think. 1475 01:28:24,842 --> 01:28:26,885 And so he's here already at 1600. 1476 01:28:27,011 --> 01:28:29,763 And this is his son, Herschel or Heschel. 1477 01:28:29,888 --> 01:28:33,684 Uh, and it says where he lived in 1632. 1478 01:28:33,809 --> 01:28:35,477 So there's the plan. 1479 01:28:35,936 --> 01:28:38,981 The plan means map of the-- of the Jewish town, 1480 01:28:39,106 --> 01:28:43,193 actually right where the Jewish quarter was, 1481 01:28:43,318 --> 01:28:45,487 many centuries later when Arnold Schoenberg 1482 01:28:45,612 --> 01:28:48,198 was born in 1874, it's right around this area. 1483 01:28:48,699 --> 01:28:53,454 Uh, but also his ancestors were living here in the 1630s. 1484 01:28:53,579 --> 01:28:55,914 Well, like why is a house in the place it is? 1485 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:57,750 Why is this street like it is? 1486 01:28:57,875 --> 01:29:00,210 Well, this street is like it is today 1487 01:29:00,335 --> 01:29:03,797 because of how it was built 400 years ago, 500 years ago. 1488 01:29:03,922 --> 01:29:06,633 So, everything new is really part of something 1489 01:29:06,759 --> 01:29:08,677 old at the same time. 1490 01:29:08,802 --> 01:29:11,764 It's also a section of Vienna that's near the train station. 1491 01:29:11,889 --> 01:29:13,724 It's where immigrants come in. Right? 1492 01:29:13,849 --> 01:29:17,019 So back then, the Jews were sort of recent immigrants to Vienna. 1493 01:29:17,144 --> 01:29:19,521 And today you'll have people coming from Ukraine. 1494 01:29:19,646 --> 01:29:21,231 So the recent refugees and immigrants 1495 01:29:21,356 --> 01:29:23,317 into Vienna also live in this area. 1496 01:29:23,984 --> 01:29:27,321 So, it's-- it's had that history for a long, long time. 1497 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,574 So I already have American, Austrian, 1498 01:29:30,699 --> 01:29:33,410 and German citizenship, and I'm applying for Czech. 1499 01:29:33,535 --> 01:29:36,955 That's also I think a way of-- of reclaiming 1500 01:29:37,081 --> 01:29:40,375 some of the history that we had, um, here. 1501 01:29:40,501 --> 01:29:42,211 If we left a property or painting there, 1502 01:29:42,336 --> 01:29:43,462 you'd want it back. 1503 01:29:43,796 --> 01:29:45,464 Uh, so they left their citizenship behind 1504 01:29:45,589 --> 01:29:47,216 also when they fled. 1505 01:29:47,341 --> 01:29:49,218 So if I can recover a little bit of the things 1506 01:29:49,343 --> 01:29:51,261 that my grandparents and great-grandparents had, 1507 01:29:51,386 --> 01:29:52,387 it makes me feel good. 1508 01:29:52,513 --> 01:29:53,639 So, that's part of it. 1509 01:29:58,602 --> 01:30:00,813 Thanks to the book by Bernhard Wachstein, 1510 01:30:00,938 --> 01:30:03,857 I thought that the graves that he had recorded 1511 01:30:03,982 --> 01:30:07,111 for the Chalfan family were in the Seegasse Cemetery, 1512 01:30:07,236 --> 01:30:09,780 the really old Jewish cemetery in Vienna. 1513 01:30:10,447 --> 01:30:12,658 {\an8}So we were there looking for those graves 1514 01:30:12,783 --> 01:30:15,410 {\an8}and not finding them or anything close to them. 1515 01:30:17,496 --> 01:30:19,915 When Johannes Reiss came in and told us 1516 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,501 that we should be looking actually at the fourth gate 1517 01:30:22,626 --> 01:30:24,586 of the central cemetery, where-- 1518 01:30:24,711 --> 01:30:26,630 where a fragment of it had been moved. 1519 01:30:37,766 --> 01:30:39,143 The stones were buried here. 1520 01:30:39,268 --> 01:30:40,769 Oh, they were buried here in '41. 1521 01:30:40,894 --> 01:30:42,271 [Wolf-Erich Eckstein] The Seegasse, 1522 01:30:42,396 --> 01:30:44,106 like all Jewish cemeteries, 1523 01:30:44,231 --> 01:30:46,400 were taken over by the Nazi. 1524 01:30:46,525 --> 01:30:50,154 And so the Jewish community decided to bring 1525 01:30:50,279 --> 01:30:53,907 some head zones away and cover them with Earth. 1526 01:30:54,032 --> 01:30:56,827 And these were found by Mr. Schreiber, 1527 01:30:56,952 --> 01:30:58,453 former Stone Mason. 1528 01:30:59,746 --> 01:31:01,290 [Randy] Arnie, do you see it has like a little-- 1529 01:31:01,415 --> 01:31:03,208 - little, uh-- - [Arnie] Should be-- 1530 01:31:03,333 --> 01:31:04,501 Like looks like a shield almost. 1531 01:31:04,626 --> 01:31:06,003 Like this shape. 1532 01:31:07,171 --> 01:31:09,006 I thought-- was it supposed to be on one of these? 1533 01:31:09,131 --> 01:31:10,591 Maybe they moved it. 1534 01:31:10,716 --> 01:31:12,509 I have a picture. It looks like this. 1535 01:31:12,634 --> 01:31:16,013 See, it has like a shield with a point on the bottom. 1536 01:31:17,556 --> 01:31:18,557 Is it over there? 1537 01:31:18,682 --> 01:31:19,766 I think that's him. 1538 01:31:20,475 --> 01:31:22,477 It looks like. Yeah. So it's a fragment. 1539 01:31:22,603 --> 01:31:25,355 Yeah, there's a dirty trick. 1540 01:31:25,898 --> 01:31:27,316 Take chalk... 1541 01:31:29,902 --> 01:31:31,195 and go over. 1542 01:31:42,289 --> 01:31:43,749 [Randy] Oh, wow. [laughs] 1543 01:31:46,251 --> 01:31:50,505 Elia. Elia Ben MHRR. 1544 01:31:51,256 --> 01:31:53,133 - Abba. - Abba. 1545 01:31:53,258 --> 01:31:54,801 [Randy] Oh, that's it. That's it. 1546 01:31:54,927 --> 01:31:57,763 Should I take the rest to make it really sure? 1547 01:31:57,888 --> 01:32:00,307 [Randy] This is the son of Abba Mari Chalfan 1548 01:32:00,432 --> 01:32:03,602 who came from Venice to Prague to be here 1549 01:32:03,727 --> 01:32:05,229 in Vienna and find this grave 1550 01:32:05,354 --> 01:32:08,398 from an ancestor who died 400 years ago. 1551 01:32:08,523 --> 01:32:11,652 Right? And here we're standing right-- right next to it. 1552 01:32:11,777 --> 01:32:14,238 Um, it's just an incredible feeling. 1553 01:32:14,363 --> 01:32:15,989 It's why-- this is why I do genealogy. 1554 01:32:16,114 --> 01:32:17,241 - Thank you. - [Wolf-Erich Eckstein] Yeah. 1555 01:32:17,366 --> 01:32:19,201 Amazing stone too. 1556 01:32:19,326 --> 01:32:21,370 And he was such an interesting person we're finding out. 1557 01:32:21,495 --> 01:32:24,081 There's a list of the Jews in Vienna in 1600 1558 01:32:24,206 --> 01:32:27,584 and there are only 71 Jews in-- in the whole city. 1559 01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:28,794 - Amazing. - [Arnie] Yeah. We really need 1560 01:32:28,919 --> 01:32:30,462 to find the rest of it. 1561 01:32:30,587 --> 01:32:32,089 [Randy] Well, Arnie, that's your job to find the rest of it. 1562 01:32:32,214 --> 01:32:33,757 They look like recent breaks. 1563 01:32:33,882 --> 01:32:35,717 It must have been broken during the Nazi period 1564 01:32:35,842 --> 01:32:37,844 when they were moving things and had to bury it. 1565 01:32:38,303 --> 01:32:40,973 Somehow it-- it's almost fitting that it's broken. 1566 01:32:44,101 --> 01:32:46,812 And this is the oldest grave of my family in Vienna. 1567 01:32:47,354 --> 01:32:49,273 We expected it in one cemetery. 1568 01:32:49,398 --> 01:32:51,525 And there it is, the fragment lying in a different cemetery. 1569 01:32:51,650 --> 01:32:53,860 That's not-- that's not normally how it goes. 1570 01:32:56,446 --> 01:32:58,615 [Randy] Eisenstadt is the main residents 1571 01:32:58,740 --> 01:33:01,368 of the Esterházys who were type of prince. 1572 01:33:01,493 --> 01:33:03,620 And they owned a lot of land on the border, 1573 01:33:03,745 --> 01:33:05,831 basically, of what's now Austria and Hungary. 1574 01:33:05,956 --> 01:33:07,374 Uh, that's called the Burgenland. 1575 01:33:07,916 --> 01:33:12,254 After 1670, when Jews were expelled from Vienna 1576 01:33:12,379 --> 01:33:17,134 and Austria, they uh, found refuge in the Burgenland. 1577 01:33:17,592 --> 01:33:20,178 [man] The Jews were so-called protected Jews 1578 01:33:20,304 --> 01:33:23,473 by Esterházys princes, Schutzjuden. 1579 01:33:23,598 --> 01:33:27,519 It means they had to pay for their residence permission, 1580 01:33:28,145 --> 01:33:31,398 but they had the protection of the Esterházy. 1581 01:33:31,815 --> 01:33:34,234 [Randy] A lot of Jews went there, including one family 1582 01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:36,278 with the name Austerlitz that we descend from. 1583 01:33:36,903 --> 01:33:39,781 They were in Vienna in 1670, but they were kicked out. 1584 01:33:39,906 --> 01:33:41,992 And so a big group went to Eisenstadt. 1585 01:33:45,037 --> 01:33:47,122 {\an8}There is this remarkable Jewish museum 1586 01:33:47,247 --> 01:33:49,416 {\an8}that my friend Johannes Reiss has put together. 1587 01:33:49,875 --> 01:33:51,793 It's small, but it's very comprehensive. 1588 01:33:52,627 --> 01:33:54,629 Oh, this is-- this is the town. 1589 01:33:54,755 --> 01:33:56,631 This is Eisenstadt here. 1590 01:33:56,757 --> 01:33:59,468 Johannes Reiss is an expert on reading Hebrew tombstones. 1591 01:33:59,593 --> 01:34:00,927 And his partner, Traude, 1592 01:34:01,053 --> 01:34:02,929 is a genealogist and a very good friend. 1593 01:34:03,972 --> 01:34:06,016 [Johannes] Towards the end of October 1992, 1594 01:34:06,141 --> 01:34:08,268 a neo-Nazi boy wrote 1595 01:34:08,393 --> 01:34:13,398 Nazi symbols on 88 gravestones on the Jewish cemetery. 1596 01:34:13,523 --> 01:34:18,695 I recognized that nobody knows the names of the people 1597 01:34:18,820 --> 01:34:20,947 who are buried there, neither do know 1598 01:34:21,073 --> 01:34:22,991 what is written in those inscriptions. 1599 01:34:23,116 --> 01:34:25,827 It inspired me to work on the Hebrew inscriptions. Yes. 1600 01:34:28,038 --> 01:34:30,624 This stone is our eighth great-grandparents, 1601 01:34:30,749 --> 01:34:33,877 a husband and wife who died the same year in 1724. 1602 01:34:34,002 --> 01:34:36,880 Ruchana Austerlitz, she died in February 1603 01:34:37,005 --> 01:34:42,052 1724 and Salman Austerlitz, he died in November 1724. 1604 01:34:42,177 --> 01:34:45,514 The symbol for the Levites families. 1605 01:34:45,639 --> 01:34:47,516 [Randy] Also 'cause they washed the-- the hands-- 1606 01:34:47,641 --> 01:34:49,726 Because they washed the hands for the kohanim, 1607 01:34:49,851 --> 01:34:51,645 the priest in the temple. 1608 01:34:51,770 --> 01:34:53,438 Solomon. 1609 01:34:53,563 --> 01:34:55,315 [Joey] Daddy, what's gonna be on your tombstone? 1610 01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:57,317 It's up to you. I'm dead. So, you know. 1611 01:34:59,611 --> 01:35:02,656 [Johannes] Every inscription, each inscription of each stone 1612 01:35:02,781 --> 01:35:07,077 is published online, and the QR codes on the stone 1613 01:35:07,202 --> 01:35:11,039 guides to this specific and permanent URL. 1614 01:35:11,164 --> 01:35:12,791 Yeah. I don't think there's any other cemetery 1615 01:35:12,916 --> 01:35:14,626 in the world that is done like this. 1616 01:35:14,751 --> 01:35:17,003 It's only thanks to all the work that Johannes did it. 1617 01:35:17,129 --> 01:35:18,880 So should we try to find their-- their parents? 1618 01:35:19,005 --> 01:35:20,549 They-- they-- are they around here? 1619 01:35:20,674 --> 01:35:23,301 Yes. The parents are two or three rows behind. 1620 01:35:24,469 --> 01:35:25,971 [Johannes] We feel responsible 1621 01:35:26,096 --> 01:35:28,140 for the descendants of the truth, 1622 01:35:28,265 --> 01:35:31,059 which were living here in the Jewish communities. 1623 01:35:31,184 --> 01:35:33,645 And the cemeteries have buried their grandparents, 1624 01:35:33,770 --> 01:35:35,480 their great-grandparents. 1625 01:35:35,605 --> 01:35:39,109 In Jewish history, tradition is the important point. 1626 01:35:39,234 --> 01:35:43,447 And tradition doesn't end one generation behind us. 1627 01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:46,116 This one is Moses. 1628 01:35:47,075 --> 01:35:48,160 Elia Gelles. 1629 01:35:48,869 --> 01:35:52,497 - Gelles. - This is Tzvi Hirsch. 1630 01:35:52,622 --> 01:35:54,458 - This is the father. - [Randy] Father and son. 1631 01:35:54,583 --> 01:35:57,252 So that's our-- our 10th great-grand-- 1632 01:35:57,377 --> 01:35:58,753 my 10th great-grandfather, 1633 01:35:58,879 --> 01:36:00,630 your 11th great-grandfather, Joey. 1634 01:36:00,755 --> 01:36:02,090 Right-- right here. And you've died when? 1635 01:36:02,215 --> 01:36:04,134 - In 16-- - [Johannes] 1686. 1636 01:36:04,259 --> 01:36:06,011 This is the father. 1637 01:36:06,136 --> 01:36:09,389 And next to this stone is the mother, Levia Austerlitz. 1638 01:36:09,514 --> 01:36:10,599 [Randy] Oh, there-- so there's Levia. 1639 01:36:10,724 --> 01:36:12,642 She died in 1695. 1640 01:36:12,767 --> 01:36:15,020 So yeah. So she's in exile from Vienna. 1641 01:36:15,145 --> 01:36:16,855 - [Johannes] Yeah. - With-- with her-- her husband 1642 01:36:16,980 --> 01:36:18,106 is here and-- and she's there. 1643 01:36:18,231 --> 01:36:19,316 [Johannes] Yeah. 1644 01:36:20,942 --> 01:36:23,820 The Jewish history is always a history of immigration. 1645 01:36:24,112 --> 01:36:27,032 [Traude] They left their homes without knowing 1646 01:36:27,157 --> 01:36:29,951 where they are going and what they will expect 1647 01:36:30,076 --> 01:36:31,703 in their new home. 1648 01:36:32,245 --> 01:36:33,788 {\an8}That's really moving to me. 1649 01:36:33,914 --> 01:36:35,916 {\an8}More or less the same like today. 1650 01:36:36,791 --> 01:36:39,127 People left-- leave their homes 1651 01:36:39,252 --> 01:36:41,838 and don't know what-- what will happen tomorrow. 1652 01:36:43,173 --> 01:36:46,134 Johannes and me, we-- we are lucky enough to have an-- 1653 01:36:46,259 --> 01:36:50,055 an apartment and we said, 'let's take one family to us.' 1654 01:36:50,555 --> 01:36:52,474 And the next day we picked up a family, 1655 01:36:52,599 --> 01:36:55,393 grandmother, mother, a 12-year-old boy, 1656 01:36:55,519 --> 01:36:56,811 and a little dog. 1657 01:36:56,937 --> 01:36:58,355 They are from-- from Ukraine. 1658 01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:00,106 And I hope to stay in Austria 1659 01:37:00,232 --> 01:37:02,901 because it's unbelievable that they have to leave. 1660 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:04,653 It's not a life. 1661 01:37:09,407 --> 01:37:10,742 [Randy] Forchtenstein, 1662 01:37:10,867 --> 01:37:13,036 it's this really old medieval castle 1663 01:37:13,161 --> 01:37:15,705 high up on a hill looks like Hotel Transylvania 1664 01:37:16,081 --> 01:37:19,209 {\an8}but it's filled with all the records of the Esterházys. 1665 01:37:19,334 --> 01:37:22,128 {\an8}They ran all of their domain, all of their towns, 1666 01:37:22,254 --> 01:37:23,338 {\an8}like a business. 1667 01:37:23,964 --> 01:37:25,507 {\an8}A lot of researchers are interested 1668 01:37:25,632 --> 01:37:27,217 {\an8}in what's in Forchtenstein. 1669 01:37:27,342 --> 01:37:29,636 These records that the Esterházy family kept, 1670 01:37:29,761 --> 01:37:31,888 which will record all the taxes and things 1671 01:37:32,013 --> 01:37:33,765 that they charged Jews for will go further back. 1672 01:37:33,890 --> 01:37:35,767 So that's sort of exciting for genealogy. 1673 01:37:35,892 --> 01:37:38,853 And they may have information for me on the Austerlitz family. 1674 01:37:44,067 --> 01:37:46,903 And how did you find them? Because it's not indexed, right? 1675 01:37:47,028 --> 01:37:50,282 This is a conscription, just like a census, Joey. 1676 01:37:50,407 --> 01:37:52,659 So it's-- it's basically a word for a census. 1677 01:37:52,784 --> 01:37:55,412 So they-- they keep track of all the people living in the area. 1678 01:37:55,829 --> 01:37:58,081 Not everything is indexed, but we-- we have 1679 01:37:58,206 --> 01:38:02,586 a-- a special structure of the-- of the whole, uh, archive here. 1680 01:38:02,711 --> 01:38:05,297 You have seen this-- this, uh, this, uh, 1681 01:38:05,422 --> 01:38:07,424 small houses in Eisenstadt today. 1682 01:38:07,757 --> 01:38:10,510 And here you see how many people, 1683 01:38:10,635 --> 01:38:13,054 how many persons live in every single house. 1684 01:38:15,974 --> 01:38:17,434 [Randy] It's documents like this that really help 1685 01:38:17,559 --> 01:38:19,352 put the puzzle pieces together. 1686 01:38:19,477 --> 01:38:21,730 And how far back do these go? How many years? 1687 01:38:21,855 --> 01:38:23,315 [archivist] Goes back to the beginning 1688 01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:25,150 of the 18th century. 1689 01:38:25,275 --> 01:38:27,152 So here, for example, this is Herschel Austerlitz, 1690 01:38:27,277 --> 01:38:28,612 and has his kids and everything. 1691 01:38:28,737 --> 01:38:30,363 And there's a note on the side says, 1692 01:38:30,488 --> 01:38:33,283 "He is the son of Aaron Austerlitz." 1693 01:38:33,408 --> 01:38:37,412 Right. So here you have even three generations of Austerlitz. 1694 01:38:37,537 --> 01:38:40,582 These are the first documents we already have scanned for you. 1695 01:38:40,707 --> 01:38:43,293 [Randy] Wow. Well, I know a lot of people who are researching 1696 01:38:43,418 --> 01:38:45,211 the communities in the Burgenland, 1697 01:38:45,337 --> 01:38:47,172 can share it with the people who are interested in-- 1698 01:38:47,297 --> 01:38:49,424 in researching this, um, this area. 1699 01:38:49,549 --> 01:38:50,967 So that's very valuable. Thank you so much. 1700 01:38:51,092 --> 01:38:52,260 - You're welcome. - That's really great. 1701 01:38:52,385 --> 01:38:55,263 [upbeat music playing] 1702 01:39:16,868 --> 01:39:20,038 This is part of the Sebastian Tengnagel collection. 1703 01:39:20,372 --> 01:39:23,625 {\an8}Tengnagel was the imperial librarian at the beginning 1704 01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:26,920 {\an8}of the-- of the 17th century here in Vienna. 1705 01:39:27,045 --> 01:39:30,548 {\an8}And he was a prominent orientalist and he collected, 1706 01:39:30,674 --> 01:39:33,927 {\an8}um, a good numbers of, uh, Hebrew manuscripts. 1707 01:39:34,052 --> 01:39:36,304 [Randy] Many of them, they think came from the library 1708 01:39:36,429 --> 01:39:38,640 of our family when they came here to Vienna. 1709 01:39:39,224 --> 01:39:43,520 This is Italian and it is, uh, it's not easy to understand, 1710 01:39:43,645 --> 01:39:46,648 but this is from, uh, your ancestor. 1711 01:39:46,773 --> 01:39:49,859 Quest Libro something. 1712 01:39:49,984 --> 01:39:54,406 Elia Alphan. A-L-P-H-A-N at the end. So Elia Alphan. 1713 01:39:54,531 --> 01:39:57,951 So this book belonged to Elia Alphan 1714 01:39:58,410 --> 01:40:00,829 and he died 400 years ago. 1715 01:40:00,954 --> 01:40:03,540 And here we are in front of one of his books 1716 01:40:03,665 --> 01:40:06,584 that was owned and has essays by his grandfather 1717 01:40:06,710 --> 01:40:10,171 and great-grandfather who were alive in the 1400. 1718 01:40:10,296 --> 01:40:12,757 You see where it says "Kalonymos ben David Kalonymos." 1719 01:40:12,882 --> 01:40:14,467 And he probably gave it 1720 01:40:14,592 --> 01:40:17,595 to his son-in-law Eliyahu Menachem Chalfan. 1721 01:40:17,721 --> 01:40:20,432 I mean, it's hard to believe that something 1722 01:40:20,557 --> 01:40:23,601 this old was owned and created 1723 01:40:23,727 --> 01:40:26,438 by someone that I share blood with. 1724 01:40:26,563 --> 01:40:29,357 [Randy] Uh, so there's a number of different works 1725 01:40:29,482 --> 01:40:33,027 that are all bound together here by Aristotle and Maimonides. 1726 01:40:33,153 --> 01:40:36,614 One of our ancestors in the 15th century, in the 1400s, 1727 01:40:36,948 --> 01:40:40,452 was writing out little notes, uh, on all of these things. 1728 01:40:40,577 --> 01:40:42,829 I just think it's amazing that Arnold Schoenberg's mother, 1729 01:40:42,954 --> 01:40:45,665 Pauline Nachod comes from Prague and her family 1730 01:40:45,790 --> 01:40:49,794 goes all the way back into the 1600s. 1731 01:40:49,919 --> 01:40:52,338 And then she has a grandmother 1732 01:40:52,464 --> 01:40:55,967 that is named Chalfan and her family came from Vienna. 1733 01:40:56,301 --> 01:40:59,137 So, and is a descendant of Dr. Elia Chalfan. 1734 01:40:59,262 --> 01:41:02,974 So we're-- we're absolutely a descendant of this Dr. Chalfan 1735 01:41:03,099 --> 01:41:06,269 and of the ancestors mentioned in this book, 1736 01:41:06,394 --> 01:41:09,939 his grandfather, Rabbi Eliyahu Menachem Chalfan 1737 01:41:10,064 --> 01:41:13,318 in Venice, and Kalonymos Ben David Kalonymos. 1738 01:41:13,443 --> 01:41:16,529 These are all our ancestors that we've been able to establish. 1739 01:41:16,654 --> 01:41:18,531 But it's amazing to find something 1740 01:41:18,656 --> 01:41:20,950 that they owned, right? After how many years this is? 1741 01:41:21,075 --> 01:41:25,038 He died in, 1630 I think. So he died 400 years ago. 1742 01:41:25,163 --> 01:41:28,124 And here we are in front of one of his books. 1743 01:41:30,460 --> 01:41:33,671 [Dr. Petrolini] You should talk with Fabrizio Lelli in Florence 1744 01:41:33,797 --> 01:41:36,049 because he specialized on the movement 1745 01:41:36,174 --> 01:41:38,301 of manuscripts from the southern Italy 1746 01:41:38,426 --> 01:41:41,930 to Venice and to Vienna to Northern Europe. 1747 01:42:00,740 --> 01:42:02,575 [man] Did you have an eye on that particular note 1748 01:42:02,700 --> 01:42:04,494 in the appendix of the book? 1749 01:42:04,619 --> 01:42:07,288 [Randy] Bernhard Wachstein says, "And I was in the cemetery 1750 01:42:07,413 --> 01:42:10,291 in Venice, and there's this grave of Fioretta there, 1751 01:42:10,416 --> 01:42:12,961 the wife of Eliyahu Menachem Chalfan." 1752 01:42:13,086 --> 01:42:14,754 And that was the first clue. 1753 01:42:14,879 --> 01:42:16,714 Fioretta's would be the oldest known gravestone 1754 01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,216 that we found from our family. 1755 01:42:18,341 --> 01:42:19,843 That's why I came to Europe. 1756 01:42:19,968 --> 01:42:21,219 So we're hoping when we get to Venice 1757 01:42:21,719 --> 01:42:23,054 that that grave is still there. 1758 01:42:23,179 --> 01:42:24,472 It was there a hundred years ago, 1759 01:42:24,597 --> 01:42:25,932 so I hope it's still there today. 1760 01:42:28,643 --> 01:42:30,603 [upbeat music playing] 1761 01:42:31,229 --> 01:42:33,773 [Randy] Chiara told us that a scholar in Florence 1762 01:42:33,898 --> 01:42:35,316 knew more about Fioretta's husband, 1763 01:42:35,441 --> 01:42:37,861 Eliyahu Menachem Chalfan. 1764 01:42:38,152 --> 01:42:40,280 So we're going there first to find out more 1765 01:42:40,405 --> 01:42:42,031 about their family and how they live. 1766 01:42:47,537 --> 01:42:50,456 {\an8}It really is a surprise when you come across something 1767 01:42:50,582 --> 01:42:52,500 {\an8}that still exists, that they are still traces 1768 01:42:52,625 --> 01:42:54,377 {\an8}of these people that you've never heard of. 1769 01:42:54,502 --> 01:42:56,254 {\an8}That their life is why you exist. 1770 01:42:56,379 --> 01:42:58,298 {\an8}Without them, you're not here. 1771 01:42:58,423 --> 01:43:01,885 And no one has remembered them until you've dug them up again 1772 01:43:02,010 --> 01:43:03,595 and learned something about them. 1773 01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:17,817 [Prof. Lelli] It's something really unbelievable. 1774 01:43:17,942 --> 01:43:21,446 This parchment, which has been recently defined, 1775 01:43:21,571 --> 01:43:23,448 the magnificent parchment. 1776 01:43:23,573 --> 01:43:24,908 {\an8}So you will see why. 1777 01:43:25,825 --> 01:43:28,953 {\an8}I think, uh, we-- we need someone to assist us 1778 01:43:29,078 --> 01:43:32,957 {\an8}for opening it and unfolding it. 1779 01:43:34,167 --> 01:43:36,127 [Randy] Wow. Amazing. 1780 01:43:38,379 --> 01:43:40,089 That's 500 years old. 1781 01:43:51,601 --> 01:43:52,685 Wanna look closer? 1782 01:43:55,563 --> 01:43:56,648 Wow. 1783 01:43:56,773 --> 01:43:58,149 Joey, you wanna come around? 1784 01:43:58,274 --> 01:43:59,317 Here, come around me on this side. 1785 01:43:59,442 --> 01:44:00,610 It's better. 1786 01:44:00,902 --> 01:44:02,654 Better view. You see the dragon? 1787 01:44:02,779 --> 01:44:04,072 - There's a dragon there. - There's a dragon there. 1788 01:44:04,197 --> 01:44:05,949 He's riding it. 1789 01:44:06,074 --> 01:44:07,408 [Prof. Lelli] This is a-- an incredibly interesting 1790 01:44:07,533 --> 01:44:11,162 artifact dating to 1533. 1791 01:44:11,287 --> 01:44:14,707 This was a joint venture, so to say, 1792 01:44:15,166 --> 01:44:17,293 of Eliyahu Menachem Chalfan, 1793 01:44:17,418 --> 01:44:20,380 your ancestor and Abraham Sarfati. 1794 01:44:20,505 --> 01:44:22,715 The drawing of the parchment took place 1795 01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:27,887 at a specific moment that followed the execution 1796 01:44:28,012 --> 01:44:32,976 by burning and stake of a very singular person. 1797 01:44:33,101 --> 01:44:38,231 His name was Shlomo Molcho, uh, an alleged messiah. 1798 01:44:38,356 --> 01:44:41,985 So this is a sort of, uh, map. 1799 01:44:42,110 --> 01:44:45,738 Hmm? A-- A drawing of the divine world 1800 01:44:45,863 --> 01:44:49,033 and what the distinction between a lower level 1801 01:44:49,158 --> 01:44:51,953 of existence and an upper level of existence. 1802 01:44:53,705 --> 01:44:55,248 [Randy] Do you think Chalfan believed 1803 01:44:55,373 --> 01:44:57,875 that Shlomo Molcho was the Messiah? 1804 01:44:58,001 --> 01:44:59,836 I incline to think so because otherwise, 1805 01:44:59,961 --> 01:45:03,965 they wouldn't have realized such a beautiful artifact. 1806 01:45:04,090 --> 01:45:08,261 For many other Jews, this was just a fake, was just a cheater. 1807 01:45:08,386 --> 01:45:12,056 Someone who was just imagining, he was pretending. 1808 01:45:12,181 --> 01:45:14,183 I must tell you something, Randy, 1809 01:45:14,308 --> 01:45:16,894 that when you contacted me the first time, 1810 01:45:17,020 --> 01:45:18,730 I would hardly believe 1811 01:45:19,022 --> 01:45:23,651 that you were really the descendant of my hero, 1812 01:45:23,776 --> 01:45:25,236 Eliyahu Menachem Chalfan. 1813 01:45:25,361 --> 01:45:27,572 And the idea of being able to show you 1814 01:45:27,697 --> 01:45:31,784 his artifacts is just, uh, blowing me away. 1815 01:45:31,909 --> 01:45:35,580 I don't know what to say, but I'm just blown away. 1816 01:45:35,705 --> 01:45:39,250 [soft music playing] 1817 01:45:44,547 --> 01:45:48,134 [Prof. Lelli] The Chalfan family came from France 1818 01:45:48,259 --> 01:45:52,221 and to northern Italy like many other French families. 1819 01:45:52,346 --> 01:45:56,642 And they moved eastward to Venetian area 1820 01:45:56,768 --> 01:46:00,271 and at some point they moved to Southern Italy 1821 01:46:00,396 --> 01:46:02,190 because we find them in Naples. 1822 01:46:02,315 --> 01:46:06,944 Eliyahu Menachem lost his father at a relatively young age. 1823 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:11,240 And 1526, uh, his father-in-law, 1824 01:46:11,365 --> 01:46:15,828 Kalonymos Ben David Kalonymos, gave him a big part 1825 01:46:15,953 --> 01:46:19,499 of the library belonging to his own family. 1826 01:46:19,957 --> 01:46:24,670 And, uh, we have an inventory, a complete list of this library. 1827 01:46:25,630 --> 01:46:28,216 They were the first generations of Jews living 1828 01:46:28,341 --> 01:46:30,259 in the gate of Venice because they-- 1829 01:46:30,384 --> 01:46:33,721 when Chalfan started living in Venice, 1830 01:46:33,846 --> 01:46:36,349 so the gate has just been opened. 1831 01:46:37,183 --> 01:46:38,976 [Randy] Every genealogist just dreams 1832 01:46:39,102 --> 01:46:42,105 of taking the family back further and further and further. 1833 01:46:42,230 --> 01:46:43,898 That was my dream as a little kid. 1834 01:46:44,023 --> 01:46:47,902 And now here we are at the 1500s and into the 1400s. 1835 01:46:48,027 --> 01:46:50,738 And, of course, I'd love if we could get back even further. 1836 01:46:55,868 --> 01:46:57,203 [Prof. Lelli] I try to reconstruct 1837 01:46:57,328 --> 01:46:59,956 the history of the person or family. 1838 01:47:00,456 --> 01:47:03,334 [Randy] So it really expands what I thought we knew 1839 01:47:03,459 --> 01:47:05,128 about Jews in the olden days, 1840 01:47:05,253 --> 01:47:06,546 but I thought they're just living 1841 01:47:06,671 --> 01:47:08,172 in their little communities alone. 1842 01:47:08,297 --> 01:47:09,549 But instead, they're engaging with kings 1843 01:47:09,674 --> 01:47:11,134 and popes and emperors. 1844 01:47:11,634 --> 01:47:13,845 Henry VIII, he wanted to annul his marriage 1845 01:47:13,970 --> 01:47:15,638 to his first wife, Catherine of Aragon. 1846 01:47:15,763 --> 01:47:17,765 He went to all these rabbis and asked 1847 01:47:17,890 --> 01:47:20,852 for opinions that the marriage was invalid. 1848 01:47:20,977 --> 01:47:23,771 Some rabbis supported the Pope against Henry VII. 1849 01:47:23,896 --> 01:47:27,483 Chalfan and Kalonymos supported Henry VIII against the Pope. 1850 01:47:27,900 --> 01:47:29,443 [Prof. Lelli] The Jewish scholars in those days 1851 01:47:29,569 --> 01:47:31,988 were at the same time alchemists 1852 01:47:32,113 --> 01:47:34,866 or astrologers or medical doctors. 1853 01:47:34,991 --> 01:47:36,993 But at the same time, they could, 1854 01:47:37,118 --> 01:47:39,120 uh, discuss the Kabbalistic text. 1855 01:47:39,245 --> 01:47:41,372 I don't even know-- and Joey, I'm sure you don't know, 1856 01:47:41,497 --> 01:47:43,332 like what-- what is Kabbalah? 1857 01:47:43,457 --> 01:47:44,834 Where does it come from? 1858 01:47:44,959 --> 01:47:46,669 You know what Kabbalah means in Hebrew. 1859 01:47:46,794 --> 01:47:50,006 Kabbalah means something that is received. 1860 01:47:50,131 --> 01:47:54,552 The word had a sort of a very deep meaning 1861 01:47:54,677 --> 01:47:58,973 relating to the handing down of a tradition 1862 01:47:59,098 --> 01:48:01,309 from generation to generation. 1863 01:48:01,434 --> 01:48:03,519 - Like received wisdom, right? - [Prof. Lelli] Exactly. 1864 01:48:03,644 --> 01:48:05,688 At some point, you have the-- 1865 01:48:05,813 --> 01:48:08,274 the idea that there's something hidden 1866 01:48:09,150 --> 01:48:12,612 that accompanies these rabbinic traditions. 1867 01:48:12,737 --> 01:48:18,367 And so this is the Kabbalah that was considered 1868 01:48:18,492 --> 01:48:21,913 the holiest in the Middle Ages. 1869 01:48:22,038 --> 01:48:24,081 And that finally, eventually, 1870 01:48:24,207 --> 01:48:27,835 became what we today call Kabbalah. 1871 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,214 Our hero, Eliyahu Menachem Chalfan, 1872 01:48:31,589 --> 01:48:35,426 this is another very interesting scholar 1873 01:48:35,551 --> 01:48:37,386 who worked in this environment. 1874 01:48:37,511 --> 01:48:39,889 It's a very interesting and complicated story. 1875 01:48:41,891 --> 01:48:44,435 [upbeat jazz music] 1876 01:49:22,723 --> 01:49:24,475 [Serena] I was born in Venice. 1877 01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,435 I'm a true Giudeccina. 1878 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,062 When I was a little girl, 1879 01:49:28,187 --> 01:49:30,940 Giudecca used to be a part of Venice 1880 01:49:31,065 --> 01:49:35,403 where only fishermen lived, and also factory workers. 1881 01:49:35,528 --> 01:49:38,114 And now it's become like the rest of Venice. 1882 01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:39,865 I think we lost control. 1883 01:49:39,991 --> 01:49:42,618 The whole city is bound to become 1884 01:49:42,743 --> 01:49:45,663 like a tourist attraction place 1885 01:49:45,788 --> 01:49:48,541 and you lose a feeling of real life. 1886 01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:53,337 Giudecca still has a lot of people who are Venetians. 1887 01:49:53,462 --> 01:49:56,173 You know everyone. People help each other. 1888 01:49:56,299 --> 01:49:58,759 There's a lot of solidarity in the island. 1889 01:49:59,218 --> 01:50:00,219 So you haven't been here before? 1890 01:50:00,344 --> 01:50:01,887 Nope. 1891 01:50:02,305 --> 01:50:03,931 [Randy] You know, I was here like 30 years ago, I guess. 1892 01:50:04,056 --> 01:50:05,224 [woman] Hi. 1893 01:50:05,558 --> 01:50:07,977 - Hi! So nice to see-- - [Randy] Hi. 1894 01:50:08,894 --> 01:50:10,521 Hi, Joey. 1895 01:50:11,147 --> 01:50:12,148 [Joey] Hi. 1896 01:50:12,273 --> 01:50:13,274 So this is Nick. 1897 01:50:13,399 --> 01:50:14,567 [Randy] Hey, Nick. 1898 01:50:14,692 --> 01:50:16,277 My husband. Randy. Joey. 1899 01:50:16,402 --> 01:50:17,903 - Nice to meet you. - Yeah, come in. 1900 01:50:18,029 --> 01:50:19,613 - Finally. - [Serena] I think Joey coming 1901 01:50:19,739 --> 01:50:21,991 into this trip and joining 1902 01:50:22,116 --> 01:50:24,702 is just the best thing that could happen. 1903 01:50:24,827 --> 01:50:29,415 It's wonderful that Randy is handing him down history 1904 01:50:29,540 --> 01:50:31,876 and his own legacy. 1905 01:50:32,335 --> 01:50:35,463 I started imagining these people that Randy 1906 01:50:35,588 --> 01:50:37,840 was giving me information about, 1907 01:50:37,965 --> 01:50:40,593 just trying out different expressions, 1908 01:50:40,718 --> 01:50:42,470 just to work things out 1909 01:50:42,595 --> 01:50:45,097 before I would start with the paintings. 1910 01:50:45,222 --> 01:50:46,849 When you look at a painting, 1911 01:50:46,974 --> 01:50:50,186 you can feel that somebody has actually made it 1912 01:50:50,311 --> 01:50:51,729 with their hands. 1913 01:50:52,063 --> 01:50:54,565 {\an8}We're showing you this new painting Nick did. 1914 01:50:54,690 --> 01:50:57,818 {\an8}So it's a surprise. There it is. 1915 01:50:57,943 --> 01:50:59,278 - Wow. - [Nuria] My father. 1916 01:50:59,403 --> 01:51:00,696 Oh, wow. 1917 01:51:00,821 --> 01:51:02,281 [Randy] Which dog is that? 1918 01:51:02,406 --> 01:51:04,075 [Nuria] That was Ronnie. 1919 01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:05,785 [Serena] Ronnie. 1920 01:51:05,910 --> 01:51:07,536 [Nuria] Ronnie was a beautiful Irish setter. 1921 01:51:07,661 --> 01:51:09,413 [Serena] Nick wanted to have this painting 1922 01:51:09,538 --> 01:51:11,415 ready for your 90th. 1923 01:51:11,540 --> 01:51:12,708 Oh, thank you, Nick. 1924 01:51:12,833 --> 01:51:14,460 That's lovely. I really-- 1925 01:51:14,585 --> 01:51:16,796 Thank you so much. 1926 01:51:16,921 --> 01:51:18,005 Really. 1927 01:51:18,589 --> 01:51:20,800 And I really like it. It's very good. 1928 01:51:20,925 --> 01:51:24,261 [soft music playing] 1929 01:51:25,346 --> 01:51:27,973 It's always interesting to know where you come from. 1930 01:51:28,099 --> 01:51:30,434 Randy is very serious about it. 1931 01:51:30,559 --> 01:51:32,978 But that doesn't mean that he's not very active 1932 01:51:33,104 --> 01:51:35,731 right now in the world we live in. 1933 01:51:35,856 --> 01:51:37,650 And that's very important that I know 1934 01:51:37,775 --> 01:51:40,569 that he applies these things that he knows 1935 01:51:40,694 --> 01:51:44,198 knowing who he is and what he wants to be. 1936 01:51:44,323 --> 01:51:46,033 And we didn't expect to have wars 1937 01:51:46,158 --> 01:51:47,952 like this now again. 1938 01:51:48,077 --> 01:51:49,745 And it's very disturbing. 1939 01:51:49,870 --> 01:51:52,081 And these are things we were not used to. 1940 01:51:52,206 --> 01:51:54,917 Art and music can help with that 1941 01:51:55,042 --> 01:51:58,212 because usually there's a great sensitivity of mind, 1942 01:51:58,337 --> 01:52:00,589 of people who create art. 1943 01:52:00,714 --> 01:52:04,468 You're helping people to believe in the future. 1944 01:52:04,969 --> 01:52:07,763 [Serena] Now I think painting has a lot to do with history. 1945 01:52:07,888 --> 01:52:11,767 It really makes you feel and makes you think about, 1946 01:52:11,892 --> 01:52:14,270 you know, what these people have been through. 1947 01:52:14,395 --> 01:52:16,021 Having to leave one place. 1948 01:52:16,147 --> 01:52:18,691 The difficulties, it just never ends. 1949 01:52:18,816 --> 01:52:21,402 Life can be really tough on some people, 1950 01:52:21,527 --> 01:52:23,028 like our ancestors. 1951 01:52:30,453 --> 01:52:32,746 Going out to the cemetery you have a chance 1952 01:52:32,872 --> 01:52:34,957 to sort of contemplate what that must have been like 1953 01:52:35,082 --> 01:52:37,960 for people 500 years ago to go out over the lagoon, 1954 01:52:38,085 --> 01:52:39,879 rowing against the current 1955 01:52:40,004 --> 01:52:42,923 out to this pretty far off island, Toledo. 1956 01:52:43,048 --> 01:52:44,633 And it's difficult enough when you have 1957 01:52:44,758 --> 01:52:45,968 a loved one who dies. 1958 01:52:46,427 --> 01:52:48,179 And in Jewish tradition, you're supposed to bury 1959 01:52:48,304 --> 01:52:50,347 the person right away, like the next day. 1960 01:52:50,473 --> 01:52:52,683 So she was alive and then the next day 1961 01:52:52,808 --> 01:52:55,352 they had to go in a boat and row for hours 1962 01:52:55,478 --> 01:52:57,104 out to this far-off cemetery 1963 01:52:57,229 --> 01:52:58,522 because that's the only place 1964 01:52:58,647 --> 01:53:00,149 they allowed Jews to bury people. 1965 01:53:01,775 --> 01:53:05,112 {\an8}[sentimental music playing] 1966 01:53:18,125 --> 01:53:22,004 We're gonna finally find Fioretta. Okay? 1967 01:53:22,129 --> 01:53:23,797 I hope. I hope we find her. 1968 01:53:23,923 --> 01:53:25,966 And Wachstein's book that said, "In the old cemetery 1969 01:53:26,091 --> 01:53:29,011 in Venice on the Lido, there's this grave of Fioretta" 1970 01:53:29,136 --> 01:53:30,429 but that was a hundred years ago. 1971 01:53:30,554 --> 01:53:32,181 Is it still there? Is it overgrown? 1972 01:53:32,306 --> 01:53:35,100 Was it moved? Is it lost? Is it still legible? 1973 01:53:35,226 --> 01:53:36,310 We just didn't know. 1974 01:53:37,645 --> 01:53:38,979 Okay, here we are. 1975 01:53:39,104 --> 01:53:40,356 Let's see if we can cross the street 1976 01:53:40,481 --> 01:53:41,565 without getting killed. 1977 01:53:42,066 --> 01:53:43,192 Yep. Looks good. 1978 01:53:49,365 --> 01:53:51,492 [indistinct chatter] 1979 01:53:56,205 --> 01:53:57,581 [Serena] Oh, it looks good. 1980 01:53:58,332 --> 01:54:00,042 - Wow. - [Randy] We wouldn't have been 1981 01:54:00,167 --> 01:54:02,294 able to get into that cemetery without-- without Aldo. 1982 01:54:03,629 --> 01:54:06,131 Oh. Oh, there he is. Oh, my gosh. 1983 01:54:06,257 --> 01:54:09,301 [Aldo] I superintended over the cemetery for everything. 1984 01:54:09,969 --> 01:54:11,220 [Serena] Ciao, Aldo! 1985 01:54:11,345 --> 01:54:13,639 [Aldo] Funerals, maintenance, 1986 01:54:13,764 --> 01:54:16,767 restoration of tombstones. 1987 01:54:16,892 --> 01:54:18,602 I am a volunteer. 1988 01:54:19,228 --> 01:54:22,940 I was born August the 28th, 1930. 1989 01:54:23,357 --> 01:54:25,359 During the war, of course, we were hidden. 1990 01:54:25,484 --> 01:54:28,862 Many Venetian Jews saved their lives 1991 01:54:28,988 --> 01:54:30,864 because our Catholic friends. 1992 01:54:30,990 --> 01:54:32,449 And that's what happened to us. 1993 01:54:32,575 --> 01:54:34,785 Wow. Thank you, Aldo. 1994 01:54:36,704 --> 01:54:37,871 - Amazing. - Wow. 1995 01:54:38,372 --> 01:54:40,499 [speaking Italian] 1996 01:54:43,085 --> 01:54:46,046 This with a certain pride, with a certain emphasis, 1997 01:54:46,171 --> 01:54:48,841 the ancient Jewish cemetery of Venice. 1998 01:54:48,966 --> 01:54:52,636 Just what is left of it, because it was a wide, wide area. 1999 01:54:52,761 --> 01:54:54,513 And those times it was the most 2000 01:54:54,638 --> 01:54:56,640 out-of-the-way place you could imagine. 2001 01:54:56,765 --> 01:54:59,435 They didn't want that us as neighbors not even as dead. 2002 01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,562 It's such a long, long story. 2003 01:55:01,687 --> 01:55:04,982 636 years of the cemetery. 2004 01:55:05,107 --> 01:55:07,943 Nowadays, this year, I think just three visits. 2005 01:55:08,068 --> 01:55:09,445 - [Randy] Visit? - [Aldo] You're the fourth. 2006 01:55:09,570 --> 01:55:11,113 [laughs] 2007 01:55:11,238 --> 01:55:13,282 [Randy] Okay, so we're looking for a grave 2008 01:55:13,407 --> 01:55:15,200 that looks like this with a triangle. 2009 01:55:15,534 --> 01:55:17,244 - [Serena] Like this one here. - [Randy] I think so. Yeah. 2010 01:55:17,369 --> 01:55:18,454 But-- but-- 2011 01:55:18,579 --> 01:55:20,581 [sentimental music playing] 2012 01:55:51,362 --> 01:55:53,656 [Joey] Daddy come. I think I found it. 2013 01:55:54,239 --> 01:55:56,158 [Randy] You're kidding. Why? What'd you find? 2014 01:55:56,283 --> 01:55:57,451 [Joey] Serena, come. 2015 01:55:57,785 --> 01:56:00,954 It says "Halfon" and it says "Fioret." 2016 01:56:01,246 --> 01:56:02,539 [Randy] Which one? 2017 01:56:02,665 --> 01:56:03,749 - [Joey] This one. - [Randy] Oh my God. 2018 01:56:04,166 --> 01:56:05,376 So where do you find it? 2019 01:56:05,501 --> 01:56:07,336 - Where does it say it? - Fioret. 2020 01:56:07,795 --> 01:56:08,879 With "et". 2021 01:56:09,338 --> 01:56:11,757 - "Et". - Fioret. Okay. 2022 01:56:11,882 --> 01:56:14,301 [Joey] And Halfon. 2023 01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:15,761 Halfon down there. 2024 01:56:15,886 --> 01:56:17,513 - So let me see. - Halfon? 2025 01:56:17,638 --> 01:56:18,722 - [Randy] Fioret. - Yeah. 2026 01:56:19,181 --> 01:56:21,600 - [Serena] Wow. - [Aldo] Eliyahu Halfon. 2027 01:56:21,725 --> 01:56:24,228 [speaking Italian] 2028 01:56:29,858 --> 01:56:31,694 ...Eliyahu Halfon. 2029 01:56:31,819 --> 01:56:33,654 [Randy] Eliyahu-- 2030 01:56:33,779 --> 01:56:35,155 [Serena] That's the husband, he's saying. 2031 01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:36,323 - Halfon. You're right. - Yeah. Yeah. 2032 01:56:36,448 --> 01:56:37,783 - That's it. - Wow. 2033 01:56:37,908 --> 01:56:38,951 [Randy] That's it. I can't believe it. 2034 01:56:39,076 --> 01:56:40,369 Amazing, Randy. 2035 01:56:40,494 --> 01:56:42,663 It's "Fioret éshet the wife of 2036 01:56:42,788 --> 01:56:47,876 haRofe... MHRR Eliyahu Halfon. 2037 01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:51,422 This is Fioretta. 2038 01:56:51,547 --> 01:56:52,965 - [Serena] Can you imagine? - [Randy] Joey, 2039 01:56:53,090 --> 01:56:54,550 - you're the greatest! - [Joey] Yeah. 2040 01:56:54,675 --> 01:56:56,802 [Serena] Yeah. Wow, Joey. Well done, Joey. 2041 01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,888 [Randy] Basically, Joey is the one that really found it. 2042 01:57:00,013 --> 01:57:02,099 I guess his Hebrew school training was enough 2043 01:57:02,224 --> 01:57:04,059 for him to read out one of the names, 2044 01:57:04,184 --> 01:57:06,812 and so I looked over it and wow, sure enough, there she was. 2045 01:57:07,563 --> 01:57:09,690 Fioretta Chalfan. That's our ancestor. 2046 01:57:09,815 --> 01:57:11,442 [Serena] Let's put a stone on it. 2047 01:57:12,860 --> 01:57:15,279 [sentimental music playing] 2048 01:57:29,042 --> 01:57:30,961 [Randy] When you finally find it, 2049 01:57:31,086 --> 01:57:33,797 and then you're standing there and you realize 500 years ago, 2050 01:57:33,922 --> 01:57:36,300 her family, my family, our family, 2051 01:57:36,425 --> 01:57:38,218 was standing there also, right at-- 2052 01:57:38,343 --> 01:57:40,554 at her graveside when she was buried. 2053 01:57:47,728 --> 01:57:50,105 You can see that he was pretty happy to have accomplished that. 2054 01:57:50,230 --> 01:57:51,774 I know he was sort of reluctant sometimes 2055 01:57:51,899 --> 01:57:53,984 to go along on this trip and we're in archives 2056 01:57:54,109 --> 01:57:56,653 and underground, looking at old records 2057 01:57:56,779 --> 01:57:58,781 that he can't read because it's in different language 2058 01:57:58,906 --> 01:58:00,574 with different script. 2059 01:58:00,699 --> 01:58:02,659 But then when he's actually able to accomplish something, 2060 01:58:02,785 --> 01:58:04,870 part of this research, part of this journey, 2061 01:58:04,995 --> 01:58:07,372 I think that must have been a really important thing for him. 2062 01:58:08,248 --> 01:58:10,459 It's that time of life when you start thinking about, 2063 01:58:10,584 --> 01:58:12,461 okay, who am I gonna be and what am I gonna do 2064 01:58:12,586 --> 01:58:13,879 and how am I going to do it? 2065 01:58:14,004 --> 01:58:15,923 And so he was able to explore that, 2066 01:58:16,048 --> 01:58:17,549 I think, while we were on this trip. 2067 01:58:17,674 --> 01:58:19,885 He gets to write the rest of his story. 2068 01:58:20,803 --> 01:58:23,597 [sentimental music playing] 2069 01:58:40,697 --> 01:58:43,325 [Joey] It was definitely a bonding trip. 2070 01:58:43,450 --> 01:58:44,827 I will always remember it. 2071 01:59:29,705 --> 01:59:31,415 [Randy] Serena did such a great job 2072 01:59:31,540 --> 01:59:33,166 with all the paintings, but you could tell she really 2073 01:59:33,292 --> 01:59:35,085 identified, I think with Fioretta, 2074 01:59:35,210 --> 01:59:38,005 you know, this sort of last matriarch of the family. 2075 01:59:38,130 --> 01:59:40,382 And she's from Venice, she's born in Venice, 2076 01:59:40,507 --> 01:59:42,009 she still lives in Venice. 2077 01:59:42,134 --> 01:59:43,802 There's hardly anybody who can say that. 2078 01:59:43,927 --> 01:59:46,179 And to have this ancestor on her mother's side, 2079 01:59:46,305 --> 01:59:47,973 which she never expected to find, 2080 01:59:48,098 --> 01:59:50,267 I think really connected with her. 2081 01:59:50,392 --> 01:59:52,603 She had this artistic way of responding to it, 2082 01:59:52,728 --> 01:59:54,855 of imagining what Fioretta might have looked like. 2083 01:59:54,980 --> 01:59:56,481 You can see a little bit of Serena 2084 01:59:56,607 --> 01:59:58,108 in the painting, which I really like. 2085 01:59:58,525 --> 02:00:00,235 [Rabbi Nolan Lebovitz] We're obsessed with memory, 2086 02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:02,863 but we're essentially missing so many generations 2087 02:00:02,988 --> 02:00:05,908 because of these atrocities that happened in Europe. 2088 02:00:06,325 --> 02:00:08,702 So there's really no one left to remember them. 2089 02:00:08,827 --> 02:00:11,371 And as a genealogist, you can at least get a little bit 2090 02:00:11,496 --> 02:00:13,415 of that back by recording their names 2091 02:00:13,540 --> 02:00:14,791 and some of their history. 2092 02:00:15,667 --> 02:00:17,502 [Joey] I think he wants to feel reconnected 2093 02:00:17,628 --> 02:00:19,588 with the family he lost in Europe. 2094 02:00:19,713 --> 02:00:22,966 That he wants to be connected to where his family used to be. 2095 02:00:23,091 --> 02:00:25,093 And even if I never will meet them, 2096 02:00:25,218 --> 02:00:27,387 it's nice to know that they were there. 2097 02:00:28,347 --> 02:00:30,557 I can feel where he's coming from. 2098 02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:33,226 [Rabbi Nolan Lebovitz] The Jewish story 2099 02:00:33,352 --> 02:00:34,603 is a story of perseverance. 2100 02:00:34,728 --> 02:00:36,438 Generation after generation, 2101 02:00:36,563 --> 02:00:39,483 even though we carry with us all of that darkness, 2102 02:00:39,608 --> 02:00:42,486 we have to remember because memory is a value. 2103 02:00:42,945 --> 02:00:45,155 This is an important part of what it means to actually 2104 02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:47,950 be part of a greater story than just ourselves. 2105 02:00:53,580 --> 02:00:56,041 [Serena] It's been amazing to be able to spend time 2106 02:00:56,166 --> 02:00:59,252 with them and confront this subject. 2107 02:00:59,378 --> 02:01:02,881 It was like magic because it was this circle 2108 02:01:03,006 --> 02:01:05,717 that from Venice, they go to Prague, to Vienna, 2109 02:01:05,842 --> 02:01:09,012 to Los Angeles, and then back to Venice again. 2110 02:01:11,598 --> 02:01:13,225 [Randy] I've also been interested now 2111 02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:15,936 in looking back further after Fioretta, 2112 02:01:16,061 --> 02:01:18,605 back down to Southern Italy where it's possible 2113 02:01:18,730 --> 02:01:20,649 that there are other family members we can learn about. 2114 02:01:21,066 --> 02:01:24,444 [Michaela] I'm pretty sure that after this research 2115 02:01:24,569 --> 02:01:27,406 with Fioretta, he will find another person 2116 02:01:27,531 --> 02:01:30,742 in the family, that he want to dig up. 2117 02:01:30,867 --> 02:01:34,162 He'll search and do the research the rest of his life. 2118 02:01:34,287 --> 02:01:37,165 He will not stop. It's not only a hobby. 2119 02:01:37,624 --> 02:01:40,669 You find people, you find friends, 2120 02:01:41,128 --> 02:01:42,629 you learn everything new. 2121 02:01:43,046 --> 02:01:46,800 I feel how I'm smiling when I think about it. 2122 02:01:47,300 --> 02:01:52,389 ♪ 2123 02:01:54,683 --> 02:01:57,686 [upbeat jazz music] 2124 02:02:54,910 --> 02:03:02,084 ♪ 2125 02:03:08,423 --> 02:03:11,551 [sentimental music] 2126 02:04:08,525 --> 02:04:15,574 ♪ 2127 02:04:38,263 --> 02:04:40,974 [dramatic music] 2128 02:05:38,031 --> 02:05:45,747 ♪ 2129 02:06:36,715 --> 02:06:43,471 ♪