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Specific to Jack in the Box, how did the burgers get contaminated?
Okay, we ready?
What falls under your jurisdiction? What falls under your jurisdiction?
Ms. Eskin, does the USDA do anything
on these cattle operations
to make sure animal waste isn't getting into the irrigation water?
Feels like a gap in the system. Does it not?
To your response that it's a question for Congress,
would you support legislation that gave USDA jurisdiction on the farm?
Mr. Yiannas, what is the FDA doing to solve the problem,
and should consumers be satisfied?
How should I title you for your position?
- Of? -LGMA.
What are some of the more recognizable handlers
that are part of the LGMA that we might know?
How often do your members test their irrigation water?
Let's just start off with, tell me what you do for work.
I am a USDA consumer safety inspector,
and I inspect chickens.
We run over 300,000 chickens a day.
We're looking at 175 birds a minute, and they're going by so fast.
There's only one inspector at the very end of the line,
and they do miss a lot sometimes.
Some of the plants I've worked at,
I feel like the chicken's not safe to go out.
I feel like consumers would really be shocked
at some of the stories that we could tell them.
I've seen…
…plant person throwing chickens in the chiller
and would have fecal matter in them.
I've seen inspectors sleep on the line and product just going on by.
And you'll see employees, they've been to the bathroom.
They're not washing their hands.
I've seen…
…people drop their knives, not attempt to pick them up and wash it,
just go right back to using it.
They got a quota they gotta meet.
And, you know, I feel like they're there to make a profit
and get the chickens through.
They don't care what shape they're in.
We run millions of birds a month.
We test five salmonella samples a month of a whole bird.
And we do five samples of parts at our plant.
That's all the USDA does.
And just because it says that "USDA inspected" on there,
it don't mean nothing because it's gotta be on their label.
I wouldn't want to eat nothing coming from some of the plants myself.
On our first day of production,
we went to a food safety lab in Seattle.
We picked up five brands of raw chicken and tested them.
And we were told by the lab, "You're not gonna get positive results."
"It's too small of a sample."
We got one positive results, and it was Perdue.
Can I just ask for your reaction to that?
It was infantis*. (*Infantis is an antibiotic resistant strain.)
What do you think would be a fair sample set?
So you're going to be testing 150 chicken parts
for us over the course of five weeks
from the top four major brands in this country.
When you were nominated for your position by President Trump,
a lobbyist for the National Cattlemen's Beef Association said that this was
great news for the industry.
Why was the industry so excited about you in particular?
It had nothing to do with the fact
that you had received a lot of money for your research
from this very same group over the years?
Are you saying it isn't a conflict of interest for you to regulate
the very industry that has funded so many of your studies?
Was your nomination also great news, do you think,
for the consumers that rely on the government to keep their food safe?
Have you made a decision on the Marler petition yet?
She has the authority?
So why doesn't she?
I'm curious if you eat romaine?
Do you eat romaine?
Are there any foods that you both absolutely avoid?
Has the LGMA response prevented
leafy greens outbreaks in your opinion?
Are there any studies that document
the improvement of safety after the implementation of LGMA?
So you say that you feel confident
that it's prevented certain outbreaks--
I want to run through
some things that have gone down the past five years.
So September 2017, eight people sick from spinach.
November 2017, 67 people sick from another unknown leafy green outbreak.
Then the following year in March, a big one, 248 people, five dead.
April 2018, ten people.
October 2018, three separate leafy green outbreaks,
sickening 135 people.
November, same thing, 167 people sick.
November 2019, two more outbreaks that same year.
October 2020, 40 people.
This isn't a great track record, is it?
I'm being asked to wrap up.
What do you want the viewers to know about this issue?