1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07,616 --> 00:00:09,574 In 3, 2... 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:12,621 --> 00:00:14,666 What's the name of this group on this stage tonight? 5 00:00:14,753 --> 00:00:16,103 all: Black Sheep! 6 00:00:16,190 --> 00:00:18,801 Say what? all: Black Sheep! 7 00:00:18,888 --> 00:00:22,065 Hip-hop definitely gives us the opportunity to blow up. 8 00:00:22,152 --> 00:00:23,632 Our special guest, Black Sheep-- 9 00:00:23,719 --> 00:00:26,461 Mista Lawnge and Dres. 10 00:00:26,548 --> 00:00:28,724 Like it or not, rap is here to stay. 11 00:00:28,811 --> 00:00:32,032 It has become part of mainstream commerce. 12 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:33,816 And "The Choice Is Yours"-- 13 00:00:33,903 --> 00:00:35,644 the one that knocked the whole country on their hip. 14 00:00:35,731 --> 00:00:37,341 - That was a real record. - You guys are so young. 15 00:00:37,428 --> 00:00:39,735 Teens making these mega hits. 16 00:00:41,650 --> 00:00:43,434 It all stems down to what you want 17 00:00:43,521 --> 00:00:44,653 to do with your life, what you want to do with yourself. 18 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:45,610 - Say hello. - Hi. 19 00:00:45,697 --> 00:00:47,699 Hi. 20 00:00:47,786 --> 00:00:51,442 Hip-hop also gives us the opportunity to implode. 21 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:54,228 If you're doing it for the money, stop. 22 00:00:54,315 --> 00:00:56,491 We had vision. We had concept. 23 00:00:56,578 --> 00:00:58,362 They didn't try to understand. 24 00:00:58,449 --> 00:00:59,363 People are people, and people make mistakes. 25 00:00:59,450 --> 00:01:01,322 If you're doing it for the love, 26 00:01:01,409 --> 00:01:02,714 then you're on the right path. 27 00:01:02,801 --> 00:01:05,761 When I make my music, I want people to feel what I feel 28 00:01:05,848 --> 00:01:07,284 because I make it straight from the heart. 29 00:01:07,371 --> 00:01:08,851 He's gone, but his music is still here. 30 00:01:08,938 --> 00:01:10,026 We still talking about him because his beats 31 00:01:10,113 --> 00:01:11,419 got us still talking. 32 00:01:11,506 --> 00:01:12,942 What J Dilla is affording me is 33 00:01:13,029 --> 00:01:16,076 for the world to see exactly what I have to say today. 34 00:01:16,163 --> 00:01:17,903 And that's all I need. 35 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:20,123 You've been given an idea. You've been given talent. 36 00:01:20,210 --> 00:01:21,646 People would be very unkind to you 37 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:23,126 if you take a Dilla track 38 00:01:23,213 --> 00:01:24,954 and you don't make the most out of it. 39 00:01:25,041 --> 00:01:26,173 Just because you have something, 40 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:27,174 it might not just be yours. 41 00:01:27,261 --> 00:01:28,697 It's been 20-plus years. 42 00:01:28,784 --> 00:01:30,046 Dilla is somebody you can't afford to mess up. 43 00:01:30,133 --> 00:01:31,874 Keep J Dilla's memory alive. 44 00:01:31,961 --> 00:01:35,138 Things become way more complicated after you gone. 45 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:53,722 The Mario series is going to turn 40 next year. 46 00:01:53,809 --> 00:01:55,463 Wow. 47 00:01:55,550 --> 00:01:58,074 Pac-Man turned 40 this year, and Donkey Kong came 48 00:01:58,161 --> 00:02:00,642 out one year after Pac-Man. 49 00:02:00,729 --> 00:02:02,165 And that was Mario's first game, right? 50 00:02:03,732 --> 00:02:06,256 Yeah, Donkey Kong was Mario's first game. 51 00:02:06,343 --> 00:02:08,345 - Thank you. - Have a good one. 52 00:02:08,432 --> 00:02:09,259 You too. 53 00:02:16,701 --> 00:02:21,053 So this is just a visual of the guy completing the levels? 54 00:02:21,141 --> 00:02:23,447 Yeah, this is a world map. 55 00:02:23,534 --> 00:02:26,755 The more levels you complete, the longer you can go on. 56 00:02:26,842 --> 00:02:30,672 Who knew that Mario would have such an amazing life? 57 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:33,936 Mario has been doing his thing for a lot of years now. 58 00:02:34,023 --> 00:02:36,721 In life, if you're a chef 59 00:02:36,808 --> 00:02:39,159 for 25 years, you're a master. 60 00:02:39,246 --> 00:02:40,551 You're a master chef. 61 00:02:40,638 --> 00:02:44,425 Who invented Donkey Kong? - Shigeru Miyamoto. 62 00:02:44,512 --> 00:02:47,689 If you played in a rock band for 25 years, 63 00:02:47,776 --> 00:02:49,125 you're a Rolling Stone. 64 00:02:49,212 --> 00:02:51,083 Like, you're revered. 65 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:55,436 But in hip-hop, if you rhyme for 25 years, you're just old. 66 00:02:57,089 --> 00:02:59,048 He originally wanted to use characters from Popeye, 67 00:02:59,135 --> 00:03:00,223 but that didn't work out. 68 00:03:00,310 --> 00:03:02,094 Oh, licensing, I'm sure. 69 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:05,097 I feel literally like one of the luckiest people 70 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:09,667 in the world to be an artist for 25 years. 71 00:03:09,754 --> 00:03:13,323 And after, you know, being a dad, 72 00:03:13,410 --> 00:03:15,282 after taking care of the household, 73 00:03:15,369 --> 00:03:17,632 after taking care of the wife, 74 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:22,593 after everything I do to be a person, 75 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,247 you know, 9:00, 10:00 at night, 76 00:03:24,334 --> 00:03:26,075 I'm going to the Bronx from Queens 77 00:03:26,162 --> 00:03:27,903 to start my workday. 78 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:30,166 "You are blocking this driveway 79 00:03:30,253 --> 00:03:31,776 "and making it incredibly difficult 80 00:03:31,863 --> 00:03:34,344 "to avoid hitting your rear bumper on my way out. 81 00:03:34,431 --> 00:03:35,998 "Please be mindful that I routinely 82 00:03:36,085 --> 00:03:39,001 "have to maneuver around your vehicle to avoid impact. 83 00:03:39,088 --> 00:03:40,568 "You are well over the line. 84 00:03:40,655 --> 00:03:45,225 I would appreciate your consideration." 85 00:03:45,312 --> 00:03:47,270 'Cause they don't have enough fucking room 86 00:03:47,357 --> 00:03:49,403 to get out of their driveway. 87 00:03:49,490 --> 00:03:52,797 Oh, God, like, New York is just New York. 88 00:03:54,973 --> 00:03:58,499 Over my career, I've done a lot of evolving. 89 00:03:58,586 --> 00:04:01,110 I think music has done a lot of evolving as well, 90 00:04:01,197 --> 00:04:04,331 for better and for worse. 91 00:04:04,418 --> 00:04:09,249 And I'm not a fan of the ageism in hip-hop. 92 00:04:09,336 --> 00:04:10,946 Hip-hop is one of the art forms where 93 00:04:11,033 --> 00:04:12,861 the young eats the elders. 94 00:04:12,948 --> 00:04:14,776 You know, you'll often hear, you know, the younger cats-- 95 00:04:14,863 --> 00:04:16,168 Yeah, I don't mess with them older dudes 96 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:17,996 and this, that, and the other. 97 00:04:18,083 --> 00:04:21,217 And, you know, it's kind of hard to hear sometimes. 98 00:04:21,304 --> 00:04:23,654 And, you know, sometimes 99 00:04:23,741 --> 00:04:25,656 reality will break my heart a little bit. 100 00:04:25,743 --> 00:04:27,789 But it's a good reason to get up every day. 101 00:04:27,876 --> 00:04:30,661 I love making music. 102 00:04:30,748 --> 00:04:32,315 The hustle is definitely a grind for me. 103 00:04:32,402 --> 00:04:33,969 You know, like I'll have a session 104 00:04:34,056 --> 00:04:35,884 that starts at 9:00, 105 00:04:35,971 --> 00:04:38,713 and I might be in there till 2:00, 3:00 in the morning 106 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,370 and be on my toes at 7:00, 7:15 to cook for my son 107 00:04:43,457 --> 00:04:45,807 and get him out the house-- 108 00:04:45,894 --> 00:04:47,896 just spend as much time as I can during the years 109 00:04:47,983 --> 00:04:50,333 that my son does need me. 110 00:04:53,075 --> 00:04:56,992 Life changes when you have a quick rise and a quick fall 111 00:04:57,079 --> 00:04:58,559 in the music industry. 112 00:04:59,951 --> 00:05:01,910 That I've had success early-- 113 00:05:01,997 --> 00:05:06,218 I always feel like I'm just a record away 114 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:09,178 from breaking a ceiling. 115 00:05:09,265 --> 00:05:10,397 - "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing." 116 00:05:10,484 --> 00:05:12,442 Here's Dres and Lawnge-- Black Sheep. 117 00:05:12,529 --> 00:05:14,357 Ow. Take it away. - Make some noise! 118 00:05:14,444 --> 00:05:16,054 Make some noise! 119 00:05:16,141 --> 00:05:17,665 My name is Dres. 120 00:05:17,752 --> 00:05:19,493 And I am Mista Lawnge, the 9.5er. 121 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:21,146 Together we make up this group called what? 122 00:05:21,233 --> 00:05:22,539 Black Sheep. 123 00:05:22,626 --> 00:05:23,758 Real hip-hop-- it inspired us. 124 00:05:23,845 --> 00:05:25,716 - Talking about Black Sheep. - Black sheep. 125 00:05:25,803 --> 00:05:27,936 - Black Sheep in the house. - Black Sheep live. 126 00:05:28,023 --> 00:05:29,677 If you're tuned in to hip-hop history, 127 00:05:29,764 --> 00:05:32,201 you have to know who Black Sheep are. 128 00:05:32,288 --> 00:05:34,246 Did you just ask me who was Black Sheep? 129 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:35,422 ♪ Who's the Black Sheep? ♪ 130 00:05:35,509 --> 00:05:37,032 ♪ What's the Black Sheep? ♪ 131 00:05:37,119 --> 00:05:39,208 ♪ Know not who I am or when I'm coming so you sleep ♪ 132 00:05:39,295 --> 00:05:42,429 Black Sheep was a duo that came out in '91 comprised 133 00:05:42,516 --> 00:05:43,908 of Dres and Mista Lawnge. 134 00:05:43,995 --> 00:05:47,390 Me and Lawnge, we met in '83 in North Carolina. 135 00:05:47,477 --> 00:05:48,957 We were both from New York, 136 00:05:49,044 --> 00:05:50,785 but our parents relocated for various reasons. 137 00:05:50,872 --> 00:05:52,482 Black Sheep--it was new. 138 00:05:52,569 --> 00:05:54,876 It was fresh--definitely the top of the hip-hop 139 00:05:54,963 --> 00:05:56,878 world for a period of time. 140 00:05:56,965 --> 00:06:00,098 They fit really well within a dominant level 141 00:06:00,185 --> 00:06:02,666 of hip-hop sound. 142 00:06:02,753 --> 00:06:04,189 Black Sheep-- 143 00:06:04,276 --> 00:06:05,930 I'd be sitting next to the radio just like this. 144 00:06:06,017 --> 00:06:07,758 ♪ Back, middle, to the front, don't front ♪ 145 00:06:07,845 --> 00:06:09,412 Damn, Mista Lawnge getting it in-- 146 00:06:09,499 --> 00:06:10,935 he was nasty with the beats. 147 00:06:11,022 --> 00:06:12,197 I'm like, ooh. 148 00:06:12,284 --> 00:06:14,504 And Dres-- it's like audible silk. 149 00:06:14,591 --> 00:06:15,505 ♪ Styling is creative ♪ 150 00:06:15,592 --> 00:06:17,464 ♪ Black sheep of the Native ♪ 151 00:06:17,551 --> 00:06:18,595 ♪ You can't be violated or even "decepticated" ♪ 152 00:06:18,682 --> 00:06:20,336 ♪ I got brothers in the jungle ♪ 153 00:06:20,423 --> 00:06:22,382 They were the perfect continuation 154 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:24,209 of what Native Tongues had already been doing. 155 00:06:24,296 --> 00:06:26,298 ♪ Native Tongue got rhymes galore ♪ 156 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:29,040 The Native Tongues were, like, a conscious hip-hop 157 00:06:29,127 --> 00:06:31,869 collective of various groups. 158 00:06:31,956 --> 00:06:33,305 The Native Tongues-- 159 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:35,612 that's a dope fucking name for a crew. 160 00:06:35,699 --> 00:06:37,309 And their whole vibe was very different, 161 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,094 and their music was banging. 162 00:06:39,181 --> 00:06:40,835 The beats were banging. 163 00:06:40,922 --> 00:06:43,011 - What's your first question? - My first question-- 164 00:06:43,098 --> 00:06:45,056 Listen, I did an entire documentary about it, 165 00:06:45,143 --> 00:06:47,015 so I don't want to repeat, but game-changing 166 00:06:47,102 --> 00:06:48,582 production from all of them. 167 00:06:48,669 --> 00:06:49,974 - ♪ Break down ♪ - ♪ Round and round ♪ 168 00:06:50,061 --> 00:06:53,717 Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest-- 169 00:06:53,804 --> 00:06:58,026 Then you have Black Sheep, Monie Love, Latifah, Chi Ali. 170 00:06:58,113 --> 00:07:01,595 It was very New York, pushing positivity. 171 00:07:01,682 --> 00:07:04,162 Just peace, Blackness, emceeing-- 172 00:07:04,249 --> 00:07:05,816 just good-spirited music. 173 00:07:05,903 --> 00:07:08,036 It was considered smart hip-hop. 174 00:07:08,123 --> 00:07:09,646 ♪ Brothers in the jungle ♪ 175 00:07:09,733 --> 00:07:11,866 Black Sheep came in and lived up to the fact 176 00:07:11,953 --> 00:07:15,913 that they had something dope and unique to say. 177 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,133 ♪ Mista Lawnge, Dres, Black Sheep slam now ♪ 178 00:07:18,220 --> 00:07:19,874 And presented it in a really creative way. 179 00:07:19,961 --> 00:07:21,789 ♪ Then, of course, the choice is yours ♪ 180 00:07:21,876 --> 00:07:23,225 "The Choice Is Yours" absolutely 181 00:07:23,312 --> 00:07:26,402 was, like, a mainstream hit. 182 00:07:26,489 --> 00:07:28,230 "You can get with this, or you can"-- 183 00:07:28,317 --> 00:07:29,927 Yeah, that was awesome. I was into that. 184 00:07:30,014 --> 00:07:32,277 "The Choice Is Yours"-- gonna knock the whole country 185 00:07:32,364 --> 00:07:33,540 on their hip. 186 00:07:33,627 --> 00:07:34,932 Like, use it as a thing to say. 187 00:07:35,019 --> 00:07:36,673 Like, it just became part of vernacular. 188 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,066 "The Choice"--it's lightning in a fucking bottle 189 00:07:38,153 --> 00:07:41,069 having such a ridiculously popular song. 190 00:07:41,156 --> 00:07:42,679 ♪ Where's the black sheep? ♪ 191 00:07:42,766 --> 00:07:44,202 ♪ Here's the black sheep ♪ - Forget it. 192 00:07:44,289 --> 00:07:45,813 I mean, if you want the party to start jumping, 193 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:46,857 you just throw that on. 194 00:07:46,944 --> 00:07:48,468 That's it. 195 00:07:48,555 --> 00:07:50,252 Especially in the part where it's like, 196 00:07:50,339 --> 00:07:51,645 "Engine, engine"-- 197 00:07:51,732 --> 00:07:52,994 "Number nine." 198 00:07:53,081 --> 00:07:55,344 ♪ On the New York transit line ♪ 199 00:07:55,431 --> 00:07:56,737 Everybody crouching down. 200 00:07:56,824 --> 00:07:57,781 ♪ If my train goes off the track ♪ 201 00:07:57,868 --> 00:07:59,566 ♪ Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up ♪ 202 00:07:59,653 --> 00:08:02,743 Monster single-- all over the radio. 203 00:08:02,830 --> 00:08:05,180 And we saw them as the first hip-hop duo 204 00:08:05,267 --> 00:08:06,877 to do late-night TV. 205 00:08:06,964 --> 00:08:09,880 It was larger than life, and it lasted forever. 206 00:08:09,967 --> 00:08:11,491 ♪ Open the door ♪ 207 00:08:11,578 --> 00:08:13,014 ♪ You best believe we're sliding through it ♪ 208 00:08:13,101 --> 00:08:14,537 He's still doing shows because of that record. 209 00:08:14,624 --> 00:08:15,973 Like, I don't really do shows like that. 210 00:08:16,060 --> 00:08:18,193 "The Choice Is Yours," "Similak Child," 211 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,586 "Flavor of the Month"-- 212 00:08:19,673 --> 00:08:21,109 I mean, a lot of people would describe 213 00:08:21,196 --> 00:08:23,459 "A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing" as a classic album. 214 00:08:23,546 --> 00:08:25,200 ♪ Do-da-dipity ♪ 215 00:08:25,287 --> 00:08:26,636 Let me tell you, man. 216 00:08:26,723 --> 00:08:29,117 All you need is one hit, and that 217 00:08:29,204 --> 00:08:32,860 was the one that guarantees them income forever. 218 00:08:32,947 --> 00:08:34,992 "You can get with this, or you can get with that," 219 00:08:35,079 --> 00:08:37,560 which was, like, I think, used in commercials. 220 00:08:37,647 --> 00:08:39,606 Better yummy this and better tasting that. 221 00:08:39,693 --> 00:08:42,304 ♪ You can get with this, or you can get with that ♪ 222 00:08:42,391 --> 00:08:43,479 Upside--using your song in a commercial. 223 00:08:43,566 --> 00:08:45,046 Boom, chickity-check. 224 00:08:45,133 --> 00:08:46,656 Downside--oh, my God. 225 00:08:46,743 --> 00:08:49,703 Have you heard the hamster song? 226 00:08:49,790 --> 00:08:51,531 ♪ You can get with this, or you can get with that ♪ 227 00:08:51,618 --> 00:08:53,358 I remember being on the radio 228 00:08:53,445 --> 00:08:55,491 and being like, fuck that, no. 229 00:08:55,578 --> 00:08:57,493 You will not refer to "The Choice Is Yours" 230 00:08:57,580 --> 00:08:59,321 as the goddamn hamster song. 231 00:08:59,408 --> 00:09:01,062 But it was a thing. 232 00:09:01,149 --> 00:09:04,761 What the hell is that? 233 00:09:04,848 --> 00:09:07,024 And then that song getting placed in the Spidey-Verse. 234 00:09:10,593 --> 00:09:12,029 Got a seven-year-old who know that record. 235 00:09:12,116 --> 00:09:13,988 You know what I'm saying? 236 00:09:14,075 --> 00:09:16,120 Like, that song is like the gift that keeps on giving. 237 00:09:16,207 --> 00:09:18,906 Also have the youth, the drill artists, 238 00:09:18,993 --> 00:09:20,429 Lola Brooke sampling "The Choice is Yours." 239 00:09:20,516 --> 00:09:22,039 - ♪ Because you ain't getting ♪ - ♪ This or that ♪ 240 00:09:23,214 --> 00:09:24,868 ♪ Man, sis, just relax ♪ 241 00:09:24,955 --> 00:09:26,435 Incredible track. 242 00:09:26,522 --> 00:09:30,178 You know, what would hip-hop be without it? 243 00:09:30,265 --> 00:09:34,138 ♪ The more things change, the more they stay the same ♪ 244 00:09:34,225 --> 00:09:37,054 All right, I'm going to keep that one and double it. 245 00:09:37,141 --> 00:09:38,926 There's a lot of cats that got a lot 246 00:09:39,013 --> 00:09:41,276 of things going on in their career 247 00:09:41,363 --> 00:09:44,061 and legacy and whatnot. 248 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:47,978 But not a lot of people have a "Choice Is Yours." 249 00:09:48,065 --> 00:09:50,590 And, you know, like, I don't really 250 00:09:50,677 --> 00:09:54,115 harp on what me and Lawnge did... 251 00:09:54,202 --> 00:09:56,160 Okay, okay. 252 00:09:56,247 --> 00:09:58,380 As much as I harp on what I still have to do. 253 00:09:58,467 --> 00:10:01,731 And that's why this Dilla project is so important. 254 00:10:01,818 --> 00:10:03,820 So, for me, in my career, 255 00:10:03,907 --> 00:10:06,083 it's just been about staying prepared. 256 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:09,086 It's about doing the work. It's about spreading love. 257 00:10:09,173 --> 00:10:12,307 It's about, you know, not hoarding because we do shit 258 00:10:12,394 --> 00:10:14,483 despite what's against us. 259 00:10:14,570 --> 00:10:17,007 You know, like, hip-hop exists despite. 260 00:10:17,094 --> 00:10:19,009 It's almost like you were sliding through it. 261 00:10:19,096 --> 00:10:21,098 You know what I'm saying? All right. 262 00:10:21,185 --> 00:10:24,406 It definitely wasn't in the plans. 263 00:10:26,887 --> 00:10:29,193 Would you call your music hard-core rap? 264 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,412 I wouldn't call it hard-core. 265 00:10:30,499 --> 00:10:31,805 We painted a lot of pictures. 266 00:10:31,892 --> 00:10:33,197 We didn't draw the pictures ourselves. 267 00:10:33,284 --> 00:10:34,590 We just colored it in. 268 00:10:34,677 --> 00:10:36,026 Curse-- a lot of words 269 00:10:36,113 --> 00:10:37,637 that I don't think you're going to ever get played 270 00:10:37,724 --> 00:10:39,377 on television or the radio. 271 00:10:44,644 --> 00:10:47,168 We don't really try to put it all into distinct categories. 272 00:10:47,255 --> 00:10:49,649 It's all music, and what you do with it is personal, 273 00:10:49,736 --> 00:10:51,259 and it's something that you share with people. 274 00:10:51,346 --> 00:10:53,000 You know, people have told me, I'm not really into rap, 275 00:10:53,087 --> 00:10:54,436 but your group is all right with me. 276 00:10:54,523 --> 00:10:57,700 And that's cool, you know, because that's broadening us. 277 00:10:57,787 --> 00:11:01,138 That's broadening them, and that's helping rap. 278 00:11:01,225 --> 00:11:04,838 Beyond a beat, a rhyme, a dance, 279 00:11:04,925 --> 00:11:07,623 hip-hop music has become this life-altering, 280 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:10,147 positive difference maker. 281 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:13,411 Like, there's so many different working pieces now, 282 00:11:13,498 --> 00:11:16,893 that a livelihood can be found all around it. 283 00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:19,983 It's the result of imagination, 284 00:11:20,070 --> 00:11:22,769 and so much rests 285 00:11:22,856 --> 00:11:25,946 on the shoulders of our elders. 286 00:11:26,033 --> 00:11:28,252 WIHD, Washington. 287 00:11:28,339 --> 00:11:29,950 In Washington. 288 00:11:30,037 --> 00:11:31,995 I want to say sunny, but you can see, there's-- 289 00:11:32,082 --> 00:11:35,912 I'm here for this induction into The Hip-Hop Museum. 290 00:11:38,219 --> 00:11:40,525 You know, like, this is not a me and Mista Lawnge thing. 291 00:11:40,612 --> 00:11:42,832 This is-- 292 00:11:42,919 --> 00:11:44,225 I didn't hit him up or anything. 293 00:11:44,312 --> 00:11:45,748 I didn't-- 294 00:11:45,835 --> 00:11:49,317 Yeah, like, I'm very grateful to Lawnge. 295 00:11:49,404 --> 00:11:51,101 You know what I'm saying? 296 00:11:51,188 --> 00:11:53,669 Like, you know, without Lawnge, we're not sitting here. 297 00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:55,236 I'm not sitting here without Lawnge. 298 00:11:55,323 --> 00:11:58,152 You know what I'm saying? So I'm always-- 299 00:11:58,239 --> 00:11:59,631 I always keep that in perspective. 300 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,329 You know what I'm saying? 301 00:12:01,416 --> 00:12:03,679 And I think it took me a while to get to the place 302 00:12:03,766 --> 00:12:07,552 where I felt like I didn't owe that situation 303 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:09,990 my loyalty anymore. 304 00:12:10,077 --> 00:12:11,208 We're going to go walk around, 305 00:12:11,295 --> 00:12:13,167 check it out, take a look around the curtain 306 00:12:13,254 --> 00:12:14,516 and see what it looked like in there real quick. 307 00:12:14,603 --> 00:12:16,126 Come on, before we go get a drink. 308 00:12:16,213 --> 00:12:19,521 Black Sheep. 309 00:12:19,608 --> 00:12:20,870 Word up. Service is in the house. 310 00:12:20,957 --> 00:12:22,698 Word up. Service in the house. 311 00:12:25,353 --> 00:12:28,835 Making hit records can definitely be 312 00:12:28,922 --> 00:12:31,272 a burden on that bad side of, 313 00:12:31,359 --> 00:12:33,230 yeah, this is what you're known for. 314 00:12:33,317 --> 00:12:34,797 When people come up to me, and they do the-- 315 00:12:34,884 --> 00:12:36,756 "It's just me, myself, and I." 316 00:12:36,843 --> 00:12:38,192 ♪ It's just me, myself, and I ♪ 317 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:40,281 And I just want to smack them in the face. 318 00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:44,415 I mean, yeah, you have to keep playing 319 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:46,287 that song no matter what. 320 00:12:46,374 --> 00:12:47,897 I have a saying-- 321 00:12:47,984 --> 00:12:49,725 You got to dance with the ho that you brought. 322 00:12:49,812 --> 00:12:52,336 This is what got you to the party. 323 00:12:52,423 --> 00:12:54,861 So when you're in the party now, you're in a party now. 324 00:12:54,948 --> 00:12:56,123 You got to dance with her now. 325 00:12:56,210 --> 00:12:58,081 She brought you, you have to dance with her. 326 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,175 I don't think you're rubbing someone the wrong way when you 327 00:13:05,262 --> 00:13:07,134 say that Black Sheep was never able to get 328 00:13:07,221 --> 00:13:09,136 back to the heights of "The Choice Is Yours." 329 00:13:09,223 --> 00:13:13,053 I mean, that was basically an impossible task. 330 00:13:13,140 --> 00:13:16,360 When you are associated with something 331 00:13:16,447 --> 00:13:19,711 that is so legendary 332 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,801 and then you come out of that, 333 00:13:21,888 --> 00:13:26,066 you're like, what am I supposed to do now? 334 00:13:26,153 --> 00:13:28,938 We're getting up pretty far on the pop charts, you know, 335 00:13:29,025 --> 00:13:30,113 with that single. 336 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,941 Now that we found something that's 337 00:13:32,028 --> 00:13:33,464 working for us, like "The Choice Is Yours," 338 00:13:33,551 --> 00:13:36,511 it will be easy to say, damn, let's go, you know, make 339 00:13:36,598 --> 00:13:38,730 "A Choice Is Ours," now or whatever, you know, 340 00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:40,863 and follow it up like everybody else would do. 341 00:13:40,950 --> 00:13:42,778 But I think we'd rather reach somewhere else. 342 00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:44,911 And even if, you know, we fall flat on our face, 343 00:13:44,998 --> 00:13:47,522 at least we was trying to be ourselves. 344 00:13:50,264 --> 00:13:52,222 They really had, like, a four-single run 345 00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:55,965 off their first album, which is great, 346 00:13:56,052 --> 00:14:00,840 and then took a few years off. 347 00:14:00,927 --> 00:14:02,363 I don't know how many people you're 348 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:04,495 going to find besides me that will be 349 00:14:04,582 --> 00:14:06,497 able to tell you the name of their first single 350 00:14:06,584 --> 00:14:08,673 off the next album. 351 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,546 You would think that an artist 352 00:14:11,633 --> 00:14:14,070 who had a song that big-- 353 00:14:14,157 --> 00:14:16,246 people would at least remember what 354 00:14:16,333 --> 00:14:18,466 they came with after that. 355 00:14:18,553 --> 00:14:21,948 I don't think anyone does. 356 00:14:22,035 --> 00:14:24,602 The next song-- it was "Without A Doubt." 357 00:14:24,689 --> 00:14:26,213 all: ♪ Yeah, without a doubt ♪ 358 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:29,956 It was a cool song, but it just-- 359 00:14:30,043 --> 00:14:32,915 the wind was out of the sail. 360 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,352 You have one-hit wonders. 361 00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:39,052 You rarely have one-album wonders. 362 00:14:39,139 --> 00:14:41,141 It's Black Sheep with some new shit. 363 00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:42,969 You know what I'm saying? We going to keep it moving. 364 00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:44,274 I know a lot of people are saying, 365 00:14:44,361 --> 00:14:46,189 yo, where's my man, Mista Lawnge? 366 00:14:46,276 --> 00:14:48,583 I'm very sad to tell you that Mista Lawnge 367 00:14:48,670 --> 00:14:51,020 has decided to leave the group and do his own thing. 368 00:14:51,107 --> 00:14:53,196 But at the end of the day, love is love, 369 00:14:53,283 --> 00:14:54,719 and I wish him the best. 370 00:14:54,806 --> 00:14:56,373 And we going to keep it moving, right? 371 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:59,246 That's right. 372 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:02,989 At this point, it's been over 30 years. 373 00:15:03,076 --> 00:15:07,471 I don't spend a lot of time back there. 374 00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:10,344 I have those memories of me and Lawnge, 375 00:15:10,431 --> 00:15:13,913 and we're very congruent onstage. 376 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,177 And we were both able to get where we both were trying 377 00:15:17,264 --> 00:15:20,963 to go in that moment together. 378 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:24,314 Once we decided to go our own ways, 379 00:15:24,401 --> 00:15:26,795 there was no partner to push you. 380 00:15:26,882 --> 00:15:31,191 It became what burned internally. 381 00:15:31,278 --> 00:15:35,891 Them two--whatever kind of wedged them apart, 382 00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:37,501 I don't even know what it was. 383 00:15:37,588 --> 00:15:39,460 I mean, honestly, I don't. 384 00:15:39,547 --> 00:15:41,810 To this day, I don't know why things 385 00:15:41,897 --> 00:15:43,812 fell off the way they did. 386 00:15:43,899 --> 00:15:45,814 Who knows, man? 387 00:15:45,901 --> 00:15:47,903 You know, I don't know. 388 00:15:54,257 --> 00:15:55,693 To me, getting your flowers means, 389 00:15:55,780 --> 00:15:57,695 like, you're close to dying. 390 00:15:57,782 --> 00:15:59,175 You know what I'm saying? 391 00:15:59,262 --> 00:16:00,307 Like, all right. 392 00:16:00,394 --> 00:16:02,657 Hey, Ma. 393 00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:04,006 Hey, baby. How are you? 394 00:16:04,093 --> 00:16:05,790 I'm good. How are you? 395 00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:07,140 I'm good. 396 00:16:07,227 --> 00:16:08,837 - You in your room? - Yes. 397 00:16:08,924 --> 00:16:11,405 Okay. All right, in a minute. 398 00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:17,715 - Hey, baby. - Hey, Mama. 399 00:16:17,802 --> 00:16:19,456 How are you? - Oh, my baby. 400 00:16:19,543 --> 00:16:20,980 How you doing? - I'm good. 401 00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:22,677 How you doing? - I'm good. 402 00:16:22,764 --> 00:16:24,679 Mmm. I love you. 403 00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:26,028 I love you, too. 404 00:16:26,115 --> 00:16:27,377 Wait a minute. We're on camera now? 405 00:16:27,464 --> 00:16:29,162 We are. 406 00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:31,251 That's okay. We built for this. 407 00:16:31,338 --> 00:16:32,817 Come on in, now. 408 00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:34,428 You look good, man. 409 00:16:34,515 --> 00:16:35,690 I wouldn't believe you were in your 70s. 410 00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:36,778 Oh, honey, 70-- 411 00:16:36,865 --> 00:16:38,780 Oh, let me tell you. 412 00:16:38,867 --> 00:16:40,738 At the airport, they said, 75, you don't 413 00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:41,870 have to take your shoes off. 414 00:16:41,957 --> 00:16:43,219 I said, I'll be here next year. 415 00:16:44,525 --> 00:16:46,788 I'll be here. And I had on boots, too. 416 00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:48,833 I had on my Timbs because the shoes 417 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,184 I was going to wear tonight-- they come, like, up to here. 418 00:16:51,271 --> 00:16:53,229 I wasn't wearing them in no airport. 419 00:16:53,316 --> 00:16:54,839 Oh, yeah. You're not supposed to, Ma. 420 00:16:54,926 --> 00:16:56,624 Mm, I know. I know. 421 00:16:56,711 --> 00:16:59,279 - They come up to there? - Yeah, but I got a long skirt. 422 00:16:59,366 --> 00:17:02,108 - You are doing a lot, okay? - Yeah, because it's you. 423 00:17:02,195 --> 00:17:03,718 You worthy of it. - I feel that. 424 00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:04,849 That's love. - Yeah. 425 00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:10,290 What's going on, man? 426 00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:12,292 Okay. All right. 427 00:17:12,379 --> 00:17:14,207 All right, here we go. 428 00:17:14,294 --> 00:17:16,470 All right, right now I'm here talking 429 00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:18,341 to one of the legends that's getting inducted tonight. 430 00:17:18,428 --> 00:17:20,474 It's quite the honor. You know what I'm saying? 431 00:17:20,561 --> 00:17:22,345 I'm very grateful to come down to DC, 432 00:17:22,432 --> 00:17:24,086 especially to hang out with some heads that 433 00:17:24,173 --> 00:17:25,827 know what hip-hop is all about, represent 434 00:17:25,914 --> 00:17:27,655 the culture to the fullest. 435 00:17:27,742 --> 00:17:29,744 The reason why The National Hip-Hop Museum 436 00:17:29,831 --> 00:17:32,094 exists is because, after holding the torch 437 00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:34,749 for so many years and accomplishing so much, it is 438 00:17:34,836 --> 00:17:38,753 our obligation as Americans to give you guys your flowers. 439 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,581 So right now can we get a big round of applause 440 00:17:40,668 --> 00:17:41,886 for all of our inductees-- 441 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,021 Special Ed... 442 00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:47,370 ♪ My name is Special Ed, and I'm a super-duper star ♪ 443 00:17:47,457 --> 00:17:48,893 CL Smooth... 444 00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:50,678 What's up, y'all? This is the Mecca Don CL Smooth. 445 00:17:50,765 --> 00:17:52,332 Dres. 446 00:17:52,419 --> 00:17:53,811 Oh, look, y'all, it's Dres from Black Sheep. 447 00:17:56,118 --> 00:17:58,294 So in the year of hip-hop's birthday, 448 00:17:58,381 --> 00:18:00,122 what do you feel is the most important thing 449 00:18:00,209 --> 00:18:02,081 that hip-hop has contributed to the world 450 00:18:02,168 --> 00:18:04,561 over the last five decades? 451 00:18:04,648 --> 00:18:08,652 Hip-hop is the top-generating music genre 452 00:18:08,739 --> 00:18:10,611 for how long now? - A lot of years. 453 00:18:10,698 --> 00:18:14,223 Every corporate entity, everything, every media, 454 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:17,139 every medium is all hip-hop. 455 00:18:17,226 --> 00:18:19,794 So why the fuck they don't respect us in the way 456 00:18:19,881 --> 00:18:21,448 that they should? 457 00:18:21,535 --> 00:18:23,189 They don't uphold us like they do 458 00:18:23,276 --> 00:18:25,843 these "rock and roll" legends 459 00:18:25,930 --> 00:18:27,802 and soul and whatever, whatever. 460 00:18:27,889 --> 00:18:29,673 We are them right now. 461 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,719 We are the ones selling millions of records, 462 00:18:31,806 --> 00:18:33,547 streaming millions of records. 463 00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:36,115 We deserve the respect. 464 00:18:36,202 --> 00:18:38,378 Like it or not, rap is here to stay. 465 00:18:38,465 --> 00:18:40,467 It has become part of mainstream commerce. 466 00:18:40,554 --> 00:18:42,208 Rap in the '90s-- it's creative. 467 00:18:42,295 --> 00:18:44,471 It's candid. It's controversial. 468 00:18:44,558 --> 00:18:46,212 Today on the show, we have rappers 469 00:18:46,299 --> 00:18:49,345 De La Soul to discuss the many ways to keep it real. 470 00:18:49,432 --> 00:18:51,739 With hip-hop, there's always been big business. 471 00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:55,264 But mid '90s, us, Dres, Tribe, 472 00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:56,961 we could see it taking over. 473 00:18:57,048 --> 00:18:58,485 Being in this business, there's 474 00:18:58,572 --> 00:18:59,790 a lot of things you're going to learn, 475 00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:02,445 and they are screwing our love, and our love is hip-hop. 476 00:19:02,532 --> 00:19:05,144 You know, our love is rap. So it's a learning process. 477 00:19:05,231 --> 00:19:07,363 We could see what our label wanted us to do-- 478 00:19:07,450 --> 00:19:10,323 that formula and how that single, 479 00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:12,934 that one record needed to be given. 480 00:19:13,021 --> 00:19:16,720 Hip-hop definitely gives us the opportunity to blow up. 481 00:19:19,027 --> 00:19:22,509 Hip-hop also gives us the opportunity to implode. 482 00:19:22,596 --> 00:19:24,337 "The Choice Is Yours"-- you were young, 483 00:19:24,424 --> 00:19:26,556 and did you guys do everything right so that record that 484 00:19:26,643 --> 00:19:29,516 lives today and will live on forever does 485 00:19:29,603 --> 00:19:31,387 benefit your children and your children's children? 486 00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:33,563 Like, the deal wasn't a fair deal... 487 00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:35,739 both: Right. - Whereas monetarily. 488 00:19:35,826 --> 00:19:37,176 We didn't take a number-- 489 00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:38,655 Who would know those terms, though? 490 00:19:38,742 --> 00:19:40,396 That's the crazy shit. 491 00:19:40,483 --> 00:19:41,876 These are the things that are kind of common knowledge 492 00:19:41,963 --> 00:19:43,704 that they just don't share with you. 493 00:19:43,791 --> 00:19:45,575 Well, it's not common because it's not being shared at all. 494 00:19:45,662 --> 00:19:46,968 Yeah, yeah. 495 00:19:47,055 --> 00:19:48,535 You know, a lot of these guys got famous-- 496 00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:50,798 They're like teen stars. 497 00:19:50,885 --> 00:19:52,974 As a young kid growing up in New York City, 498 00:19:53,061 --> 00:19:54,323 I loved the music. 499 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:56,151 I was a fan. I would go to the clubs. 500 00:19:56,238 --> 00:19:57,979 And you had access to these people. 501 00:19:58,066 --> 00:20:00,764 And you could see how they got fucked over business-wise. 502 00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,766 Of course, if you're 16, and they're like, 503 00:20:02,853 --> 00:20:04,333 we're going to give you whatever 504 00:20:04,420 --> 00:20:05,987 to sign this contract, you're like, fuck it. 505 00:20:06,074 --> 00:20:09,164 You're not thinking Jay-Z, ownership, 506 00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:10,600 you know, publishing. 507 00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:12,646 This isn't even a formed genre of music. 508 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:14,778 And you're like, fuck. I'm going to make $15,000? 509 00:20:14,865 --> 00:20:16,040 Fuck, yeah. 510 00:20:16,127 --> 00:20:17,390 For as long as I can remember, 511 00:20:17,477 --> 00:20:19,043 I've been around hip-hop, 512 00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:21,350 as the former editor in chief at "The Source" magazine. 513 00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:23,526 The business does get complicated. 514 00:20:23,613 --> 00:20:25,789 You have to understand the industry 515 00:20:25,876 --> 00:20:27,487 that you're making music in. 516 00:20:27,574 --> 00:20:30,316 It's the key to survival as you continue 517 00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:32,013 to grow old in the industry 518 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,971 because you're going to need it. 519 00:20:34,058 --> 00:20:36,887 Dres told me he's seen old-school rapper 520 00:20:36,974 --> 00:20:38,454 hopping a train, actually. 521 00:20:38,541 --> 00:20:40,195 We was like, yo, that shit is crazy. 522 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:42,371 And Dres was like, yo, I wanted to help him, 523 00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:44,199 but, like, I wasn't really in the situation-- 524 00:20:44,286 --> 00:20:45,679 Like, I ain't with him. 525 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:47,768 Fuck, I don't want to give him no fucking $40. 526 00:20:47,855 --> 00:20:49,204 You know what I mean? 527 00:20:49,291 --> 00:20:50,640 I think it's a concerted effort to try 528 00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:52,338 to take advantage of people. 529 00:20:52,425 --> 00:20:54,165 I'm gonna keep it funky. You know what I'm saying? 530 00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:55,906 Yeah. - You got 8, 9 points. 531 00:20:55,993 --> 00:20:57,908 They don't tell you that that's percentage. 532 00:20:57,995 --> 00:21:01,216 That means there's 90% that exists 533 00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:03,218 that's not yours off of what you did. 534 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:05,220 - What you made. - Right. 535 00:21:05,307 --> 00:21:07,657 And God forbid you splitting it. 536 00:21:07,744 --> 00:21:11,922 I should be a multimillionaire if they just gave me half. 537 00:21:12,009 --> 00:21:14,011 Black Sheep were an integral part 538 00:21:14,098 --> 00:21:16,492 of early 1990s renaissance hip-hop 539 00:21:16,579 --> 00:21:18,407 coming out of the Five Boroughs. 540 00:21:18,494 --> 00:21:20,322 As part of The Native Tongue collective, 541 00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:23,194 Dres and his DJ, Mista Lawnge, embody the spirit 542 00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:25,196 of that group of musicians. 543 00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:28,983 But they maintained their own style and approach to music. 544 00:21:29,070 --> 00:21:32,508 And in 1997, Dres dropped his first solo project. 545 00:21:32,595 --> 00:21:35,946 As well, he has released independent music and material 546 00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:38,079 as recently as last year. 547 00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:39,820 Give it up for Dres. 548 00:21:42,431 --> 00:21:43,693 ♪ Yes, it's me ♪ 549 00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:45,434 ♪ D-R-E-S ♪ 550 00:21:45,521 --> 00:21:48,219 - All right. - Yeah, yeah. 551 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,918 For me, music is all-encompassing. 552 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:53,921 It's a beautiful reason to wake up every day. 553 00:21:54,008 --> 00:21:55,923 It's a strong reason 554 00:21:56,010 --> 00:21:59,579 to learn to correct yourself 555 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:01,276 because we're all going to make the mistakes 556 00:22:01,363 --> 00:22:02,582 that we're going to make. 557 00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:04,453 That's what life is. 558 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,674 But be defined by what you correct. 559 00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:14,507 I'm working on some really, really, really new dope shit. 560 00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:17,858 This particular project is a DnD project-- 561 00:22:17,945 --> 00:22:20,295 Dilla and Dres. 562 00:22:20,382 --> 00:22:21,514 All right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 563 00:22:21,601 --> 00:22:24,081 It's happening. It's going down. 564 00:22:24,168 --> 00:22:27,563 Like, I've been allowed to visit 565 00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:29,565 a sacred land 566 00:22:29,652 --> 00:22:33,047 and pull a project 567 00:22:33,134 --> 00:22:35,441 produced entirely by J Dilla. 568 00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:39,488 And I'm asking all of y'all 569 00:22:39,575 --> 00:22:41,316 to see that star when it shines, 570 00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:43,710 'cause it's going to shine. 571 00:22:43,797 --> 00:22:45,625 You know what I'm saying? That's my word. 572 00:22:45,712 --> 00:22:47,496 I'm just asking you to pay attention a little bit. 573 00:22:47,583 --> 00:22:49,759 You know what I'm saying? Word up. 574 00:22:54,721 --> 00:22:57,637 How y'all feeling? 575 00:22:57,724 --> 00:22:59,116 I can't hear y'all. 576 00:22:59,203 --> 00:23:03,120 How y'all feeling, man? 577 00:23:03,207 --> 00:23:06,297 Want to take it back? - Way back, back into time. 578 00:23:08,038 --> 00:23:10,476 Okay. 579 00:23:10,563 --> 00:23:12,913 Real quick. 580 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,568 Yes, we-- Yo! 581 00:23:19,876 --> 00:23:23,097 I only recall meeting Dilla one time 582 00:23:23,184 --> 00:23:26,100 in passing in life, 583 00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:30,365 though he worked with everyone of the Natives-- 584 00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:32,585 very close with Tribe. 585 00:23:32,672 --> 00:23:35,152 You know, he did a lot of work with De La. 586 00:23:35,239 --> 00:23:37,198 When I make my music-- you know what I'm saying?-- 587 00:23:37,285 --> 00:23:39,069 I want people to feel what I feel. 588 00:23:39,156 --> 00:23:42,290 I want them to feel that energy that I--whatever it was. 589 00:23:42,377 --> 00:23:43,683 Yeah, that's all it is, 590 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:45,467 because I make it straight from the heart. 591 00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:46,816 ♪ Stakes is high ♪ 592 00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:48,644 ♪ You know them stakes is high ♪ 593 00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:51,430 JD from Detroit was definitely one 594 00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:54,781 of the illest producers ever. 595 00:23:54,868 --> 00:23:57,827 J Dilla was truly one of the purest musicians 596 00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:59,394 I've ever met. 597 00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:01,135 Dilla came with his own sound, 598 00:24:01,222 --> 00:24:03,964 his own beat, his own pace, his own scratches, 599 00:24:04,051 --> 00:24:05,400 his own melodies. 600 00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,837 And then he started working with everybody. 601 00:24:07,924 --> 00:24:09,578 He worked with so many people, 602 00:24:09,665 --> 00:24:12,015 from The Pharcyde, to Tribe... 603 00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:13,147 De La Soul. 604 00:24:13,234 --> 00:24:14,714 The Roots, Erykah Badu. 605 00:24:14,801 --> 00:24:17,325 Busta Rhymes, Janet Jackson. 606 00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:18,500 And he from Detroit. 607 00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:21,851 So we like, that's our guy. 608 00:24:21,938 --> 00:24:24,593 A significant role in hip-hop is the sampling. 609 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,943 And one of the best to ever do it is J Dilla. 610 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:28,858 All I know how to do is work the MPC 611 00:24:28,945 --> 00:24:30,904 and listen to these breakbeats and chop shit. 612 00:24:30,991 --> 00:24:32,819 You know what I'm saying? I come from that hip-hop shit. 613 00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:35,822 What he was doing was merging jazz... 614 00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:39,303 funk, soul. 615 00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:43,220 He was flipping any record, anything. 616 00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:46,093 The pieces of the record that he would sample-- 617 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:47,921 it would be the same record you sampled, 618 00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:50,140 but he would find a piece in that shit 619 00:24:50,227 --> 00:24:51,707 that you would never even think to use 620 00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:54,101 or couldn't even use it that way. 621 00:24:54,188 --> 00:24:56,843 He could make a Soca record, a reggae record, 622 00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:58,584 an R&B record. 623 00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:00,499 It was just in a way that no one else would do. 624 00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:02,501 And I mean, effortlessly. 625 00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:05,286 Like, yeah, he did hip-hop, but he's way bigger than that. 626 00:25:05,373 --> 00:25:07,418 He's a jazz musician. 627 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:08,942 He knew his time signature. 628 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:10,857 He was programming it, 629 00:25:10,944 --> 00:25:12,946 but it just felt live, the swing of it. 630 00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:15,252 He had an understanding of it that he could manipulate it 631 00:25:15,339 --> 00:25:16,863 any way that he wanted to. 632 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:18,908 He was like, truly, a scientist at it. 633 00:25:18,995 --> 00:25:21,432 Artists like Dilla gave us a new voice, 634 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,305 currency, a relevancy. 635 00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:27,351 And that's real raw talent right there. 636 00:25:27,438 --> 00:25:29,397 And that's why we still talking about him--because his beats 637 00:25:29,484 --> 00:25:31,225 got us still talking. 638 00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:41,888 Went out to Puerto Rico to do a charity event, 639 00:25:41,975 --> 00:25:45,805 and I was blessed to meet Ma Dukes. 640 00:25:45,892 --> 00:25:48,938 Can't never get enough bell pepper and onion. 641 00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:51,637 Let's see, finish cooking this sauce. 642 00:25:51,724 --> 00:25:53,682 And I was offered an opportunity 643 00:25:53,769 --> 00:25:55,292 to come back to their house... 644 00:25:55,379 --> 00:25:57,468 Keep my pasta loose. 645 00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,558 For a meal and, you know, just sit up and listen 646 00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:01,255 to music, this, that, and the other. 647 00:26:01,342 --> 00:26:04,171 Welcome to the hot kitchen. 648 00:26:04,258 --> 00:26:06,782 Dilla--he didn't have a lot of freedom as a kid. 649 00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:08,610 And, you know, at that time, you could go to a record shop, 650 00:26:08,697 --> 00:26:10,656 you hear something playing new. 651 00:26:10,743 --> 00:26:12,048 Because he was such a great kid during the week, 652 00:26:12,135 --> 00:26:14,790 when his dad worked, he got to get record or two. 653 00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:17,706 You know, he'd do that-- build his record collection. 654 00:26:17,793 --> 00:26:20,622 He was exceptionally gifted. 655 00:26:20,709 --> 00:26:23,930 He could take anything apart. He was mechanically inclined. 656 00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:25,279 Everybody liked him. 657 00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:26,933 But he wasn't outgoing. 658 00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:29,413 And if he didn't say anything or didn't speak, 659 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,328 it was just because his mind was, like-- 660 00:26:31,415 --> 00:26:33,156 his head was in a different space. 661 00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:35,506 Everything is like done through math and science, 662 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,465 even with the music, you know. 663 00:26:37,552 --> 00:26:40,816 Was used to hearing music of all genres-- 664 00:26:40,903 --> 00:26:44,733 Mr. Yancey, who had been a musician for over 25 years 665 00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:47,127 professionally, as well as his job 666 00:26:47,214 --> 00:26:50,130 at Ford Motor Company for 40 years 667 00:26:50,217 --> 00:26:52,828 before he passed away. 668 00:26:52,915 --> 00:26:57,224 We entertained a lot of musicians. 669 00:26:57,311 --> 00:27:01,315 When Dilla was a baby, at 11 months old, 670 00:27:01,402 --> 00:27:04,013 he would hear James Brown record come on. 671 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:07,626 And within the third beat, he'd be up dancing. 672 00:27:07,713 --> 00:27:09,758 But he had not learned to walk yet, 673 00:27:09,845 --> 00:27:12,587 and he's in a whole different world. 674 00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:16,417 So music had him early on. 675 00:27:18,114 --> 00:27:20,334 - If I can get my folder. - All right. 676 00:27:20,421 --> 00:27:22,597 A lot of stuff was floating around on the Internet 677 00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:24,468 because it wasn't released properly. 678 00:27:24,555 --> 00:27:27,080 And so I had to encrypt a lot of stuff. 679 00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:28,690 Why? 680 00:27:28,777 --> 00:27:31,258 'Cause folks are always wanting to do music projects 681 00:27:31,345 --> 00:27:33,739 with us, yet they're using songs that they 682 00:27:33,826 --> 00:27:35,131 don't have permission to use. 683 00:27:35,218 --> 00:27:37,568 It's the legal stuff that I got to take care of. 684 00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:40,223 But the music--being back home with the family 685 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:42,573 makes all of that so much easier. 686 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,446 The guy basically chopped my record. 687 00:27:45,533 --> 00:27:47,056 It got around-- bootleg versions. 688 00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:48,275 And that was a big hit. 689 00:27:48,362 --> 00:27:49,624 It was my fucking beats. 690 00:27:49,711 --> 00:27:51,365 - Your tune? - Yeah. 691 00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:53,236 And it's like--that was kind of in the beginning-- 692 00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:55,021 you know what I'm saying-- when I learned about that shit. 693 00:27:55,108 --> 00:27:56,196 And people can just take your shit 694 00:27:56,283 --> 00:27:58,198 and sample it and rap over it. 695 00:27:58,285 --> 00:27:59,155 And you know what I'm saying? 696 00:27:59,242 --> 00:28:00,504 Ah. 697 00:28:00,591 --> 00:28:01,941 I can't stand that shit. 698 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:05,858 Oh, that was it? 699 00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:07,163 10:72. 700 00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:08,817 Yo, play it again. 701 00:28:10,297 --> 00:28:11,733 Yo. 702 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,041 And catch you off guard. 703 00:28:15,128 --> 00:28:16,129 Yo. 704 00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:20,916 ♪ I was killing the heart, killing in the spot ♪ 705 00:28:21,003 --> 00:28:23,136 ♪ Chilling the squad, I seen it before ♪ 706 00:28:23,223 --> 00:28:25,312 ♪ Tonight she ain't feeling the dark ♪ 707 00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:28,184 Listening to Dilla's tracks no one had ever heard before, 708 00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:30,491 I became excited. 709 00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:34,843 End of the night, I wound up leaving Puerto Rico 710 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:38,934 with the opportunity to make an album from Dilla's catalog 711 00:28:39,021 --> 00:28:42,198 and a hard drive of Dilla's beats, 712 00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:45,898 music that was produced, you know, 15 years ago. 713 00:28:48,248 --> 00:28:50,990 Ma Dukes could have had any artist 714 00:28:51,077 --> 00:28:53,601 in the world do this project. 715 00:28:53,688 --> 00:28:57,344 But I'm really grateful because it's me. 716 00:28:57,431 --> 00:29:01,304 When I met you and the vibe I got and the love I felt, 717 00:29:01,391 --> 00:29:03,089 that was genuine. 718 00:29:03,176 --> 00:29:06,527 And I just felt like I had been around you always. 719 00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:09,312 And that means a lot to me. 720 00:29:09,399 --> 00:29:13,055 Dilla always told me, it's a time for everything. 721 00:29:13,142 --> 00:29:14,927 All right. 722 00:29:15,014 --> 00:29:17,712 Let me know to calm down and to wait for that moment. 723 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:20,062 And this is the time. - All right. 724 00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:21,890 Let's make it happen. 725 00:29:21,977 --> 00:29:23,239 No doubt. 726 00:29:23,326 --> 00:29:26,721 - And, Dres, you got it. - Ah, thank you, Ma. 727 00:29:26,808 --> 00:29:28,375 You got the golden Willy Wonka gold ticket. 728 00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:31,639 - Thank you, Ma. - Make it happen. 729 00:29:31,726 --> 00:29:32,640 Make it happen. 730 00:29:32,727 --> 00:29:34,424 I was humbled. 731 00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:37,210 I was honored, and I felt a sense of accountability 732 00:29:37,297 --> 00:29:39,125 to what I was about to do. 733 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:48,787 I'm excited about it. 734 00:29:48,874 --> 00:29:52,268 Dres, you know, over Dilla beats would be dope. 735 00:29:52,355 --> 00:29:54,618 That's dope. 736 00:29:54,705 --> 00:29:56,664 - Oh, really? 737 00:29:56,751 --> 00:29:59,014 Wow. 738 00:29:59,101 --> 00:30:01,495 Lucky him. 739 00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:04,367 Doing this has been very therapeutic for me. 740 00:30:04,454 --> 00:30:06,761 I've also been able to kind of just look 741 00:30:06,848 --> 00:30:08,807 at myself and the artist that I am 742 00:30:08,894 --> 00:30:12,680 and how important it is for me to push 743 00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:15,639 forward to do the work. 744 00:30:19,643 --> 00:30:22,646 But I just picked, like, 40 tracks to start working. 745 00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:25,388 The links are--you know, like, this is 23 seconds. 746 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:28,174 This is a minute and 24. This is 20 seconds right here. 747 00:30:28,261 --> 00:30:32,004 Creating an entire song from a snippet 748 00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:35,311 has really been a cool experience. 749 00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:37,792 It's not about just writing a rhyme 750 00:30:37,879 --> 00:30:41,230 and force-feeding it to a track. 751 00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:45,974 You know, this project has been very much me 752 00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:48,455 falling in love with what I'm hearing... 753 00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:52,589 ♪ I see the stars in your eyes, laying on Drew Hill ♪ 754 00:30:52,676 --> 00:30:56,071 And letting that pull out what should go on it. 755 00:30:56,158 --> 00:30:58,247 ♪ Baby, loving you a virtue ♪ 756 00:30:58,334 --> 00:30:59,858 ♪ If I had you, wouldn't hurt you ♪ 757 00:30:59,945 --> 00:31:01,729 ♪ Couldn't do nothing but nurse your beauty, easy to see ♪ 758 00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:02,991 ♪ Said I'll show you what it mean ♪ 759 00:31:03,078 --> 00:31:04,384 ♪ You were born my queen ♪ 760 00:31:04,471 --> 00:31:06,212 Here we go. 761 00:31:13,915 --> 00:31:15,786 You're so amazing. 762 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:17,223 Yo, that was crazy. 763 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:18,572 Dilla is tricky, man. 764 00:31:18,659 --> 00:31:20,313 Now that I'm listening to this... 765 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,488 - Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And playing... 766 00:31:21,575 --> 00:31:23,098 Yo, yeah. That's my word. 767 00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:24,883 I'm like, the harmony that this cat is using-- 768 00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:27,146 It ends differently than just a 16-bar rhyme. 769 00:31:27,233 --> 00:31:28,321 Right, right, right. 770 00:31:39,332 --> 00:31:41,508 You got some joints I ain't even heard before. 771 00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:43,379 I ain't heard a third of them. 772 00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:45,120 Right. 773 00:31:45,207 --> 00:31:47,122 It's so much more for me to listen to. 774 00:31:47,209 --> 00:31:49,081 - Word. - He's a genius, man. 775 00:31:49,168 --> 00:31:50,952 ♪ I need it because they hoping for my nap ♪ 776 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,780 ♪ And they know that New York is on our back ♪ 777 00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:54,521 ♪ You broke in on... ♪ 778 00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:58,046 Dilla is somebody you can't afford to mess up. 779 00:31:58,133 --> 00:32:00,179 ♪ She won't know where I'm at ♪ 780 00:32:00,266 --> 00:32:01,397 People would be very unkind to you 781 00:32:01,484 --> 00:32:03,182 if you take a Dilla track, and you 782 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:04,792 don't make the most out of it. 783 00:32:04,879 --> 00:32:06,359 One, two, one, two. 784 00:32:06,446 --> 00:32:08,013 ♪ Then they get no data ♪ 785 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:09,753 ♪ In any dream that don't include us ♪ 786 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,755 One more time. 787 00:32:11,842 --> 00:32:14,193 I know, like, Dilla's mom 788 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,022 giving Dres those beats 789 00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:20,155 was like giving him her heart... 790 00:32:20,242 --> 00:32:21,765 in a lot of ways. 791 00:32:21,852 --> 00:32:25,639 People have very strong, visceral feelings 792 00:32:25,726 --> 00:32:28,207 about everything J Dilla. 793 00:32:28,294 --> 00:32:30,383 ♪ Any dream that don't include us... ♪ 794 00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:33,081 Normally, I would be like, I hate this. 795 00:32:35,562 --> 00:32:37,085 You know what I'm saying? 796 00:32:37,172 --> 00:32:40,001 But I know Dres. I love Dres. 797 00:32:40,088 --> 00:32:41,742 And I know his heart. 798 00:32:41,829 --> 00:32:45,702 But a lot of the "purists"-- we don't fuck with that shit. 799 00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:47,182 Even if Dilla was alive, 800 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:49,968 you're going to get held to a very high standard 801 00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:52,492 that's going to be tough to live up to. 802 00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:56,539 And, also, there's obviously no collaboration of any sort. 803 00:32:56,626 --> 00:32:59,325 It's not like we think of Dres and Dilla 804 00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:00,935 in the same room at all. 805 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:03,590 ♪ Game, new deal-- ♪ Ah! 806 00:33:03,677 --> 00:33:05,679 So there's also going to be that certain aspect 807 00:33:05,766 --> 00:33:07,594 of people going, that's random. 808 00:33:07,681 --> 00:33:09,596 Don't worry about what people are saying. 809 00:33:09,683 --> 00:33:10,771 Worry about what your heart is saying. 810 00:33:10,858 --> 00:33:12,686 ♪ New deal ♪ 811 00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:14,383 ♪ I see the stars in your eyes laying on-- ♪ 812 00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:15,906 Worry about what you're going to do 813 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:20,607 to make this a hot project. 814 00:33:20,694 --> 00:33:21,869 He know what to do. 815 00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:23,131 No, one more time. 816 00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:35,796 What I'd like to do is just play you guys 817 00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:38,842 some of the full-length cuts from the DnD project. 818 00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:42,716 And I've taken this journey, like, so internally, 819 00:33:42,803 --> 00:33:46,937 and each track, I feel like told me something. 820 00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,374 So I want, you know, just play some 821 00:33:48,461 --> 00:33:50,115 of these joints for y'all. - Okay. 822 00:33:50,202 --> 00:33:52,378 - All right, cool. - Yeah. 823 00:33:52,465 --> 00:33:54,597 This one is the one with CeeLo. 824 00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:57,470 And he kills--like, he's just so amazing. 825 00:33:57,557 --> 00:33:59,733 - I can't even imagine. - Yeah, CeeLo is amazing. 826 00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:07,610 ♪ You know I'm there, but you don't really know me ♪ 827 00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:09,699 ♪ The limelight moves around ♪ - Yeah. 828 00:34:12,615 --> 00:34:14,095 Wow. 829 00:34:14,182 --> 00:34:17,533 Is it still the same way? - For now. 830 00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:21,668 ♪ Don't give a fuck about that shit you do ♪ 831 00:34:21,755 --> 00:34:23,583 Ha ha! 832 00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:27,500 ♪ That way for lots of family ♪ 833 00:34:27,587 --> 00:34:29,110 Oh, damn. 834 00:34:29,197 --> 00:34:31,156 - That's on point. - Who's on this one? 835 00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:33,941 Alexander Simone, Nina Simone's grandson, 836 00:34:34,028 --> 00:34:34,811 and Freeway. - Right. 837 00:34:34,898 --> 00:34:37,075 - Yeah. - Wow. 838 00:34:38,859 --> 00:34:40,687 Usually you don't get that-- 839 00:34:40,774 --> 00:34:42,297 That is a full album. 840 00:34:42,384 --> 00:34:44,430 Yeah, I'm just saying that everything is hot. 841 00:34:44,517 --> 00:34:46,562 So it's, like, fresh and new for me, 842 00:34:46,649 --> 00:34:48,521 but I'm, like, really energized and excited. 843 00:34:48,608 --> 00:34:52,133 It's like I recognize what you've been through, 844 00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:53,656 and here you go. 845 00:34:53,743 --> 00:34:55,267 God got you. - All right. 846 00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:57,095 - This project is for you. - I love that. 847 00:34:57,182 --> 00:35:00,750 I love that. I love that--love it, love it. 848 00:35:00,837 --> 00:35:02,361 Just to give it a little ambience, 849 00:35:02,448 --> 00:35:04,537 I just decided to keep some of the coconut. 850 00:35:04,624 --> 00:35:08,671 I met Maureen with DC Loves Dilla. 851 00:35:08,758 --> 00:35:11,500 They had to come to the radio station. 852 00:35:11,587 --> 00:35:14,199 When we got closer and closer, and then I said, 853 00:35:14,286 --> 00:35:16,114 I'm gonna take you to Puerto Rico. 854 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,116 - Look at it. - Yeah, a little lizard, yeah. 855 00:35:18,203 --> 00:35:19,682 He wants to be in the picture, too, I guess. 856 00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:21,510 You know, she really didn't understand it, 857 00:35:21,597 --> 00:35:24,731 but that was our first real date-- 858 00:35:24,818 --> 00:35:27,908 me going and taking her to Puerto Rico. 859 00:35:27,995 --> 00:35:31,390 That's when I started asking her certain real questions 860 00:35:31,477 --> 00:35:33,435 about, like, the people who was around her, 861 00:35:33,522 --> 00:35:35,133 helping her facilitate the legacy 862 00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:37,178 and the estate and everything. 863 00:35:37,265 --> 00:35:40,312 And I asked basic questions-- couldn't get answered. 864 00:35:40,399 --> 00:35:41,965 That's when I knew it was a problem. 865 00:35:42,052 --> 00:35:43,750 After Dilla's passing, 866 00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:46,144 there's a lot of confusion, particularly 867 00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:48,146 those who should be reaping the benefits 868 00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,278 of his hard work, which is-- 869 00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:52,889 You know, you reading about it, you're hearing about it. 870 00:35:52,976 --> 00:35:55,109 Unfortunately, the lawyers and the curator of the estate 871 00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:56,371 wouldn't let her do nothing. 872 00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,157 The estate people was sitting there 873 00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:00,897 trying to tell her she can't go do 874 00:36:00,984 --> 00:36:03,161 anything with Dilla's music. 875 00:36:03,248 --> 00:36:05,206 They were stopping her and stealing 876 00:36:05,293 --> 00:36:06,773 intellectual property. 877 00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:09,036 Shit bags. 878 00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,518 Dilla's dead. 879 00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:16,870 His family is alive keeping the legacy alive. 880 00:36:16,957 --> 00:36:20,221 So when I got involved, 881 00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:22,354 I'm going to do like any businessman is going to do-- 882 00:36:22,441 --> 00:36:23,877 fire everybody. 883 00:36:23,964 --> 00:36:25,922 Really, the person who is pushing 884 00:36:26,009 --> 00:36:28,751 forward all things J Dilla 885 00:36:28,838 --> 00:36:31,189 and keeping his memory alive... 886 00:36:31,276 --> 00:36:36,368 Since Dilla's passing, there has not been a lot of success 887 00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:39,458 in getting Dilla's music out there. 888 00:36:39,545 --> 00:36:41,199 Yo, it's like you don't want to get involved 889 00:36:41,286 --> 00:36:44,550 in the messiness sometimes of someone leaving us, 890 00:36:44,637 --> 00:36:46,465 and then who controls the estate 891 00:36:46,552 --> 00:36:50,251 or the creative aspect of it? 892 00:36:50,338 --> 00:36:52,427 You know, it can be very tricky. 893 00:36:52,514 --> 00:36:55,213 You know, just because you have something, 894 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,867 it might not just be yours. 895 00:36:57,954 --> 00:37:01,610 You know, me with Prodigy-- I go through the same thing. 896 00:37:01,697 --> 00:37:03,351 I'm gung-ho about putting something out, 897 00:37:03,438 --> 00:37:06,920 but I have to treat it as if Prodigy is here. 898 00:37:07,007 --> 00:37:09,052 It's like, okay, you get this amount of money. 899 00:37:09,139 --> 00:37:10,532 And you get that amount of money. 900 00:37:10,619 --> 00:37:13,840 And let's just honor our loved one. 901 00:37:13,927 --> 00:37:17,626 We humbly learned the down effects of the music business. 902 00:37:17,713 --> 00:37:19,280 We learned that. 903 00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:20,890 Yeah, it's a difficult-- 904 00:37:20,977 --> 00:37:22,675 I can't even speak on the situation. 905 00:37:22,762 --> 00:37:24,807 I hope it gets rectified, man. I hope-- 906 00:37:24,894 --> 00:37:27,375 The importance of making sure everything 907 00:37:27,462 --> 00:37:29,116 is clear with this particular project is because 908 00:37:29,203 --> 00:37:31,640 you've had so many people using Dilla's 909 00:37:31,727 --> 00:37:35,296 music without permission, putting it out. 910 00:37:35,383 --> 00:37:38,386 And then they wonder--you come back to us and asking us, 911 00:37:38,473 --> 00:37:40,606 how come my song got taken down? 912 00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:42,085 Like, what happened? 913 00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:44,044 I put out a good project and everything 914 00:37:44,131 --> 00:37:48,222 that people think that it's okay to take someone's property 915 00:37:48,309 --> 00:37:51,660 and utilize it for your benefit 916 00:37:51,747 --> 00:37:53,575 without having permission. 917 00:37:53,662 --> 00:37:55,273 Oh, yeah? 918 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,667 Like, and naming it DnD, Dilla and Dres, 919 00:37:58,754 --> 00:38:02,889 like, I felt like it was important that we bond, 920 00:38:02,976 --> 00:38:06,109 that this is an opportunity to be the difference in some 921 00:38:06,196 --> 00:38:08,982 of the stuff that gets questioned 922 00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:10,679 and some of the stuff that gets acknowledged. 923 00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:13,595 DnD is something that, you know, like-- 924 00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:14,988 I'll put like this. 925 00:38:15,075 --> 00:38:16,859 When we did "The Choice Is Yours," 926 00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:18,731 I'm standing in front of the mixing board next to Lawnge, 927 00:38:18,818 --> 00:38:22,387 and I'm like, I don't know what we just did, 928 00:38:22,474 --> 00:38:24,302 but I know we just did something. 929 00:38:24,389 --> 00:38:26,391 - Word. - And that's how I feel. 930 00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:31,221 There is a pressure that I put upon myself, 931 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:32,919 if anything, I think. 932 00:38:33,006 --> 00:38:34,660 These people that love your son... 933 00:38:34,747 --> 00:38:36,575 Yeah. 934 00:38:36,662 --> 00:38:38,707 They're looking at me like, and you're about to do what? 935 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:43,233 He's gone, but his music is still here. 936 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:44,844 - Right. - You've been given the idea. 937 00:38:44,931 --> 00:38:46,367 You've been given the talent. 938 00:38:46,454 --> 00:38:49,065 You've been blessed to make this approach 939 00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:53,287 and shine more light on what and who he was from people 940 00:38:53,374 --> 00:38:54,375 that knew him best. - Yeah. 941 00:38:54,462 --> 00:38:56,421 I think that's very important. 942 00:38:56,508 --> 00:38:58,031 You know, it's going to be a lot of those people 943 00:38:58,118 --> 00:38:59,902 that really don't know how to feel. 944 00:38:59,989 --> 00:39:02,209 It's a lot of those people that were close to him 945 00:39:02,296 --> 00:39:04,690 that are still mourning him. - Right. 946 00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:08,563 You can't be afraid to take that step. 947 00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:10,739 Let them have a taste of Dilla, you know, 948 00:39:10,826 --> 00:39:13,263 and show them--so you've got to give it to them. 949 00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:15,004 That's real. That's what we about to do. 950 00:39:15,091 --> 00:39:16,484 Exactly, exactly. 951 00:39:29,192 --> 00:39:31,978 One of the things that's really important to me 952 00:39:32,065 --> 00:39:34,459 in the making of this project is Dilla's approval. 953 00:39:34,546 --> 00:39:38,288 And all of that doesn't take place any other way 954 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,769 without me learning about him. 955 00:39:40,856 --> 00:39:44,120 I wasn't going to get a phone call from Dilla. 956 00:39:44,207 --> 00:39:47,210 I had to take the initiative to find him. 957 00:39:47,297 --> 00:39:50,562 I had to take the initiative to find his friends. 958 00:39:50,649 --> 00:39:52,564 Where's Frank? Oh, wait--Frank, Frank. 959 00:39:52,651 --> 00:39:54,043 I'm here. Frank is here. 960 00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,306 How y'all doing? Holla at your boy. 961 00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,308 Dilla, tell me if you remember this--when we was in the... 962 00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:01,094 Frank Nitty was Dilla's right hand. 963 00:40:01,181 --> 00:40:04,750 Frank was always there, and he cared about Dilla. 964 00:40:04,837 --> 00:40:06,360 Seven years I put out records. 965 00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:08,188 Everything I put out was a J Dilla track. 966 00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:10,146 Everybody needs that guy to hold him down, 967 00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,018 and that was him. 968 00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:13,280 ♪ Is how we do ♪ 969 00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:14,455 ♪ We can do two ♪ 970 00:40:14,542 --> 00:40:15,978 ♪ We got two for you ♪ 971 00:40:16,065 --> 00:40:17,415 And he can rap pretty fucking good, too. 972 00:40:17,502 --> 00:40:19,939 - What's up? - What up, yo? 973 00:40:20,026 --> 00:40:22,158 Want to come ride in the family vehicle? 974 00:40:22,245 --> 00:40:23,333 Dude. What up? 975 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,118 You feel me? - Chilling, man. 976 00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:26,728 Welcome, welcome, welcome. - That's what's up. 977 00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:28,121 Man, we've been waiting for this. 978 00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:29,731 Yeah. 979 00:40:29,818 --> 00:40:31,690 Yep. 980 00:40:31,777 --> 00:40:34,127 When I was, you know, going through Dilla's catalog 981 00:40:34,214 --> 00:40:35,737 and pulling tracks, 982 00:40:35,824 --> 00:40:37,696 I didn't know that Frank Nitt--he was the one 983 00:40:37,783 --> 00:40:40,350 that compiled them all. 984 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:43,571 It's dope that you taking the time to get a little history. 985 00:40:43,658 --> 00:40:46,356 But if he was here and we was doing this, 986 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,663 I probably would've been in his car picking you up 987 00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:50,926 from the airport to come do the work, 988 00:40:51,013 --> 00:40:53,059 because that's how it went down, you know what I'm saying? 989 00:40:53,146 --> 00:40:55,235 I'm so grateful for it, man. 990 00:40:55,322 --> 00:40:57,063 Dres, my mom wants you. 991 00:40:57,150 --> 00:40:58,717 And he's extremely humble. 992 00:40:58,804 --> 00:40:59,892 He's a good guy. 993 00:40:59,979 --> 00:41:01,633 Don't let his humble fool you. 994 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:03,983 This a hip-hop luminary in a lot of ways 995 00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:06,725 just hanging out in your basement at this point. 996 00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,684 Being here creates 997 00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:12,992 a certain type of individual based on the path you take. 998 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:14,733 One thing about being from Detroit 999 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:17,475 and being from the '80s or the '90s, in particular-- 1000 00:41:17,562 --> 00:41:18,824 I would say it's an acquired taste. 1001 00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:21,914 Jalen Rose from the University of Michigan. 1002 00:41:22,001 --> 00:41:23,655 That's where I can help him a whole lot, 1003 00:41:23,742 --> 00:41:25,265 and that's what I'm looking to do from day one. 1004 00:41:25,352 --> 00:41:26,919 Detroit's an industrial giant. 1005 00:41:27,006 --> 00:41:28,660 I mean, it's changed over the decades. 1006 00:41:28,747 --> 00:41:30,575 Largest automobile plant in the world. 1007 00:41:30,662 --> 00:41:32,751 Detroit was a thriving city in the '70s. 1008 00:41:32,838 --> 00:41:35,493 Chevrolet, Ford, and Chrysler manufacturing cars, 1009 00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:37,712 and we also had Motown Records. 1010 00:41:37,799 --> 00:41:41,194 And music and cars became our heartbeat. 1011 00:41:41,281 --> 00:41:43,675 Detroit leads the nation in violent crime. 1012 00:41:43,762 --> 00:41:45,503 It started to change in the '80s 1013 00:41:45,590 --> 00:41:48,506 as the crack epidemic hit, and it went on the decline. 1014 00:41:48,593 --> 00:41:50,638 It's a diamond in the rough. 1015 00:41:50,725 --> 00:41:52,771 It's just really, really rough. 1016 00:41:52,858 --> 00:41:55,730 And I think Dilla applied that hustle and smarts 1017 00:41:55,817 --> 00:41:57,297 to music. 1018 00:41:57,384 --> 00:41:59,865 I don't know. 1019 00:41:59,952 --> 00:42:01,867 I wonder how he would feel to see this-- 1020 00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:03,825 to know that, you know, at some point, 1021 00:42:03,912 --> 00:42:05,261 people in your city kind of caught up to it. 1022 00:42:05,348 --> 00:42:07,133 Right, right. 1023 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:08,787 - You know what I'm saying? - Right, right, right. 1024 00:42:08,874 --> 00:42:10,397 That's so huge, man. 1025 00:42:12,181 --> 00:42:14,532 Let's see if y'all know what's going on here? 1026 00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:16,534 I want to take y'all to the East Side of Detroit 1027 00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:18,536 real quick. 1028 00:42:18,623 --> 00:42:22,627 I'm talking Detroit history musically was this place 1029 00:42:22,714 --> 00:42:25,064 right here, Pershing High. 1030 00:42:25,151 --> 00:42:27,501 I started here as a freshman, and then Dilla didn't come 1031 00:42:27,588 --> 00:42:29,372 here until his senior year. 1032 00:42:29,459 --> 00:42:32,419 ♪ And I'ma play this game for you ♪ 1033 00:42:32,506 --> 00:42:34,595 So we had this thing we used to do 1034 00:42:34,682 --> 00:42:35,901 called "shake it up" 1035 00:42:35,988 --> 00:42:37,555 after school right here with the crew. 1036 00:42:37,642 --> 00:42:39,339 We was known as the hip-hop kids, man. 1037 00:42:39,426 --> 00:42:42,603 And, like, when we was doing it, hip-hop wasn't cool to do. 1038 00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:45,867 ♪ To be smacked open-handedly by these ♪ 1039 00:42:45,954 --> 00:42:48,000 We used to make music at... 1040 00:42:48,087 --> 00:42:50,219 Which is, like, a couple of blocks that way. 1041 00:42:50,306 --> 00:42:51,743 You know, that was, like, our first real studio 1042 00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,135 to work at and do things. 1043 00:42:57,444 --> 00:42:59,794 I think that Dilla created a whole genre 1044 00:42:59,881 --> 00:43:04,146 for soul music and hip-hop that could have its own category. 1045 00:43:04,233 --> 00:43:07,193 Nobody else created beats like that, you know, 1046 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,326 that felt that way. 1047 00:43:10,413 --> 00:43:14,853 Years ago--it must have been late '80s or '90s, 1048 00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:16,637 I was smoking a joint in front of the house, 1049 00:43:16,724 --> 00:43:18,378 and so he said, yo, man, I hear that music 1050 00:43:18,465 --> 00:43:20,119 coming out of the house. 1051 00:43:20,206 --> 00:43:21,294 You got equipment down there? You making music? 1052 00:43:21,381 --> 00:43:22,991 I said, yep, I do. 1053 00:43:23,078 --> 00:43:25,777 He brought the music that he had been creating 1054 00:43:25,864 --> 00:43:28,693 from beat matching with cassettes, 1055 00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:31,609 and that's how it all started. 1056 00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:35,830 At that point, I taught him how to use the MPC. 1057 00:43:35,917 --> 00:43:37,745 It was watching a light bulb go off. 1058 00:43:37,832 --> 00:43:39,529 It was, like, a dream come true 1059 00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:41,488 to finally be able to manipulate music like this 1060 00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:42,663 and put it together so fast. 1061 00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:48,800 So then he left stuff like this that I have in the machine. 1062 00:43:48,887 --> 00:43:53,021 That's cool--that I'll still have. 1063 00:44:07,209 --> 00:44:08,471 Crazy. 1064 00:44:08,558 --> 00:44:10,169 So there's probably 1065 00:44:10,256 --> 00:44:12,084 about six other keyboard sounds like that, 1066 00:44:12,171 --> 00:44:15,000 where he played the chords with just one note. 1067 00:44:15,087 --> 00:44:17,524 That showed you how great his ear was... 1068 00:44:21,223 --> 00:44:23,661 Just the fact that all these keyboard songs-- 1069 00:44:23,748 --> 00:44:25,663 that just one chord-- 1070 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:27,665 he sampled it, and then played it on the pad. 1071 00:44:27,752 --> 00:44:30,624 Nobody else was doing that. 1072 00:44:30,711 --> 00:44:33,235 How many songs you got done already? 1073 00:44:33,322 --> 00:44:35,411 - Probably about 12, 13. - Okay, that's good. 1074 00:44:35,498 --> 00:44:37,631 I would love to play a track or two for you, man... 1075 00:44:37,718 --> 00:44:39,198 - Yeah, I'd love to hear it. - If it's cool. 1076 00:44:39,285 --> 00:44:40,242 You know what I'm saying? - Yeah, please. 1077 00:44:41,983 --> 00:44:43,376 ♪ Everything that glitters... ♪ 1078 00:44:43,463 --> 00:44:44,943 Whoo, that shit is cold. 1079 00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:47,119 ♪ Be careful what you ask for to cash in ♪ 1080 00:44:47,206 --> 00:44:49,251 ♪ Said, I'm a ride or die, baby, mob me ♪ 1081 00:44:56,084 --> 00:44:57,695 Wow. 1082 00:44:57,782 --> 00:44:59,348 That's the shit. You're on a roll right now. 1083 00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:02,090 You need to keep-- you need to stay on that hill. 1084 00:45:04,963 --> 00:45:07,095 A lot of music that's still out here, 1085 00:45:07,182 --> 00:45:10,272 you know, and she could have chose anybody. 1086 00:45:10,359 --> 00:45:12,579 She got to keep the bar up here. 1087 00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:18,846 The spot--the old street here. 1088 00:45:18,933 --> 00:45:21,936 We never used this front door-- always the back door. 1089 00:45:22,023 --> 00:45:24,460 Come by the stoop. Come by the house. 1090 00:45:24,547 --> 00:45:26,375 Come to Nevada. 1091 00:45:26,462 --> 00:45:29,030 I was in this house as a 12-, 13-year-old kid 1092 00:45:29,117 --> 00:45:30,423 running around. 1093 00:45:30,510 --> 00:45:32,164 Like, Ma upstairs cooking-- 1094 00:45:32,251 --> 00:45:34,514 for real, like, making pies and snacks, 1095 00:45:34,601 --> 00:45:37,299 while we trying to make... make music-- 1096 00:45:37,386 --> 00:45:39,780 or do something we dream of, you know what I'm saying? 1097 00:45:39,867 --> 00:45:41,564 Like, make a dream come true. 1098 00:45:41,651 --> 00:45:45,481 Dilla Studios--don't nobody get this motherfucker. 1099 00:45:45,568 --> 00:45:47,048 Frank is in it deep. 1100 00:45:47,135 --> 00:45:48,528 It was just automatic to work with him. 1101 00:45:48,615 --> 00:45:50,051 Know what I'm saying? That's family. 1102 00:45:50,138 --> 00:45:51,618 You have outdone your cousin today. 1103 00:45:51,705 --> 00:45:53,533 James Dewitt Yancey as a person-- 1104 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:56,057 extremely smart, bullheaded. 1105 00:45:56,144 --> 00:45:58,059 He want to do what he want to do. 1106 00:45:58,146 --> 00:45:59,278 You got something to say for the camera? 1107 00:45:59,365 --> 00:46:00,627 Funny--a lot of people don't know. 1108 00:46:00,714 --> 00:46:02,585 You motherfuckers... 1109 00:46:02,672 --> 00:46:04,587 The first thing I learned about DJing was from him. 1110 00:46:04,674 --> 00:46:06,111 Like, he showed me how to scratch. 1111 00:46:06,198 --> 00:46:08,461 After school, we walked-- 1112 00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:11,420 Oh, come over to the crib. I want to show you this. 1113 00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:14,162 Talk about J Dilla's basement is--we walk in. 1114 00:46:14,249 --> 00:46:17,426 His records all over the walls. 1115 00:46:17,513 --> 00:46:21,517 That's how I got to know him--sitting in the basement 1116 00:46:21,604 --> 00:46:23,650 with the tiles. 1117 00:46:23,737 --> 00:46:25,608 Got the couch where I was laid out. 1118 00:46:25,695 --> 00:46:27,567 Mother cooking for me upstairs. 1119 00:46:27,654 --> 00:46:30,004 He's like, use my records. I don't care what you use. 1120 00:46:30,091 --> 00:46:32,311 Pete Rock is in my house, man, making beats. 1121 00:46:32,398 --> 00:46:33,834 It's like two giants-- 1122 00:46:33,921 --> 00:46:35,488 the Hulk and The Thing just chilling out, 1123 00:46:35,575 --> 00:46:37,316 teaching each other. 1124 00:46:37,403 --> 00:46:40,275 And we became real fast, talking to each other like-- 1125 00:46:40,362 --> 00:46:41,799 you know? 1126 00:46:41,886 --> 00:46:43,278 - I mean, I got all that shit. - Right. 1127 00:46:43,365 --> 00:46:45,498 I had that shit. I just wanted to get some-- 1128 00:46:45,585 --> 00:46:47,805 He has this process, a way of hooking up drums, 1129 00:46:47,892 --> 00:46:49,545 making the drums sound like they sound. 1130 00:46:49,632 --> 00:46:52,287 That's it. He plays the record, or he hears something. 1131 00:46:52,374 --> 00:46:54,333 Oh. 1132 00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:55,682 Puts it in the machine. 1133 00:46:55,769 --> 00:46:57,423 Hears something else--oh. 1134 00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:58,859 I'm watching all these things, and I'm like, 1135 00:46:58,946 --> 00:47:00,469 this is alchemy. 1136 00:47:00,556 --> 00:47:03,385 This is fucking science what's going on right here. 1137 00:47:03,472 --> 00:47:06,911 That's what makes it special, as well as all the music 1138 00:47:06,998 --> 00:47:09,914 and all the stars and celebrities 1139 00:47:10,001 --> 00:47:12,220 that pulled up in our hood to come get that work. 1140 00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:14,092 You know what I mean? 1141 00:47:14,179 --> 00:47:15,397 - They all came down to the D. - They came to the D. 1142 00:47:15,484 --> 00:47:17,138 They all came to the D. That's what I'm saying. 1143 00:47:17,225 --> 00:47:18,183 I'm still a fan of this hip-hop shit. 1144 00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:19,793 You know what I'm saying? 1145 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,839 Shit like that--it's still part of the dream. 1146 00:47:21,926 --> 00:47:24,624 It's still part of the-- I can't believe it. 1147 00:47:24,711 --> 00:47:26,844 ♪ Putting it on the map for the D ♪ 1148 00:47:26,931 --> 00:47:29,890 Yo. DJ Dez. 1149 00:47:31,631 --> 00:47:33,763 I feel like I represent something special, man. 1150 00:47:33,851 --> 00:47:35,591 I'm proud of the era. 1151 00:47:35,678 --> 00:47:39,682 I'm proud of the cast that I came in with-- 1152 00:47:39,769 --> 00:47:41,206 a lot of history. 1153 00:47:41,293 --> 00:47:43,121 Finally, that's word. 1154 00:47:43,208 --> 00:47:44,774 First of all, how did you meet Dilla? 1155 00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:47,299 We met at Amp's house. 1156 00:47:47,386 --> 00:47:49,997 You just feel like you at the right place-- 1157 00:47:50,084 --> 00:47:52,826 you know what I'm saying-- or right moment. 1158 00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:56,090 You know when you in the midst of somebody that's special. 1159 00:47:57,962 --> 00:48:01,182 I felt like we was going to take over the world. 1160 00:48:01,269 --> 00:48:03,141 I felt like that was my partner. 1161 00:48:03,228 --> 00:48:06,013 We was aliens, and we was going to take over the world. 1162 00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:07,754 Right, right, right, right. 1163 00:48:07,841 --> 00:48:11,105 I get it, because since I kind of started this project 1164 00:48:11,192 --> 00:48:13,151 and announced that I'm doing this project, 1165 00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:16,458 the energy around it kind of goes throughout 1166 00:48:16,545 --> 00:48:19,722 my entire sphere of awareness. 1167 00:48:19,809 --> 00:48:21,463 You know what I'm saying? 1168 00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:23,161 Like, everything around me became kind of charged. 1169 00:48:23,248 --> 00:48:24,553 You know what I'm saying? 1170 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,728 - It's special. - Yeah, yeah. 1171 00:48:25,815 --> 00:48:27,165 It's a special dynamic. 1172 00:48:27,252 --> 00:48:29,471 Yeah, it is a very special dynamic. 1173 00:48:36,435 --> 00:48:38,393 Hmm. 1174 00:48:41,396 --> 00:48:43,485 Keep the passion, man. 1175 00:48:43,572 --> 00:48:45,270 You might run into an obstacle. 1176 00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:52,842 Just keep the passion, because... 1177 00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:55,062 you know, this past can get tricky. 1178 00:48:57,804 --> 00:49:01,373 And it's just... - Right. 1179 00:49:06,073 --> 00:49:08,684 Things become way more complicated after you gone. 1180 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,475 He came back from tour 2000-- 1181 00:49:16,562 --> 00:49:18,651 from UK. 1182 00:49:18,738 --> 00:49:20,522 He just wasn't feeling good. 1183 00:49:20,609 --> 00:49:23,177 So, during his hospital stay that we thought 1184 00:49:23,264 --> 00:49:25,179 was going to be just for observation, 1185 00:49:25,266 --> 00:49:26,964 it ends up being a couple months because he has 1186 00:49:27,051 --> 00:49:29,531 to have dialysis, you know? 1187 00:49:29,618 --> 00:49:33,927 And he had lupus, which was a very rare blood disease. 1188 00:49:34,014 --> 00:49:38,018 And I think they said it was one in... 1189 00:49:38,105 --> 00:49:40,978 10,000,000. 1190 00:49:41,065 --> 00:49:43,632 J Dilla was like my roommate out here. 1191 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,591 So I would go home every day, and he 1192 00:49:45,678 --> 00:49:48,855 would be working on his MPC, making beats, creating magic. 1193 00:49:48,942 --> 00:49:50,726 And then eventually he got sick, 1194 00:49:50,813 --> 00:49:52,598 I'd watch him, you know, physically deteriorating. 1195 00:49:56,689 --> 00:49:58,299 The first time I seen him in a wheelchair 1196 00:49:58,386 --> 00:49:59,779 was when he rolled off the plane. 1197 00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,563 It was basically his last tour. 1198 00:50:01,650 --> 00:50:05,524 What up, doe? 1199 00:50:05,611 --> 00:50:06,829 What up, doe? 1200 00:50:06,916 --> 00:50:09,484 Yeah! 1201 00:50:09,571 --> 00:50:12,574 And I'm not gonna act like there's anything different. 1202 00:50:12,661 --> 00:50:14,794 You know, it's still Dilla. What up, boy? 1203 00:50:14,881 --> 00:50:16,665 You know, it's still that. 1204 00:50:16,752 --> 00:50:19,538 The only thing I did ask him was, yo, we been filming. 1205 00:50:19,625 --> 00:50:22,976 If you don't want to be on camera, tell me now, you know. 1206 00:50:23,063 --> 00:50:25,413 No, film that shit. Film that shit. 1207 00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:28,808 It's a blessing to be out here right now 1208 00:50:28,895 --> 00:50:31,854 bringing you this celebration-- that's what it is. 1209 00:50:31,941 --> 00:50:34,031 Retrospect, he knew. 1210 00:50:34,118 --> 00:50:36,120 He knew his time was coming. 1211 00:50:36,207 --> 00:50:38,165 He even brought his moms to see you all. 1212 00:50:38,252 --> 00:50:41,647 Make some motherfucking noise! 1213 00:50:41,734 --> 00:50:45,825 He didn't take anything that day, but he's hurting, 1214 00:50:45,912 --> 00:50:47,914 I can imagine, all over. 1215 00:50:48,001 --> 00:50:50,047 - It's Ma Dukes, y'all. - Bring Ma Dukes to the stage. 1216 00:50:51,657 --> 00:50:54,964 That last night before he passed away, 1217 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:59,360 he's finishing up his last project. 1218 00:50:59,447 --> 00:51:03,364 Now all I got to do is get the bass line, he says. 1219 00:51:03,451 --> 00:51:05,453 In his hospital bed, you know, 1220 00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:07,368 with his little crate of records, 1221 00:51:07,455 --> 00:51:09,544 little, small little turntable, 1222 00:51:09,631 --> 00:51:12,286 I'm sick, possibly dying. 1223 00:51:14,332 --> 00:51:16,421 Where's my MPC? 1224 00:51:16,508 --> 00:51:19,598 That's a whole other mind state. 1225 00:51:19,685 --> 00:51:21,600 It was something that I didn't want to accept, 1226 00:51:21,687 --> 00:51:24,733 that he was losing himself. 1227 00:51:27,562 --> 00:51:31,653 Even as I'm holding him, he just had a breath in my arm. 1228 00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:33,960 But that breath that I felt was his last breath, 1229 00:51:34,047 --> 00:51:35,309 and he died in my arms. 1230 00:51:37,833 --> 00:51:40,532 I had so much love and so many people supporting me 1231 00:51:40,619 --> 00:51:43,056 around me. 1232 00:51:43,143 --> 00:51:45,450 Eventually I'll come home, and he's not there no more. 1233 00:51:45,537 --> 00:51:48,496 So his spirit is still here, and he's living 1234 00:51:48,583 --> 00:51:50,716 forever through the music. 1235 00:51:50,803 --> 00:51:54,328 It's just that dedication. 1236 00:51:54,415 --> 00:51:56,374 Everybody can't be on that type of time. 1237 00:51:56,461 --> 00:51:59,899 - Thank you all for coming out. 1238 00:51:59,986 --> 00:52:02,597 I love you all, man. 1239 00:52:05,687 --> 00:52:07,994 Too young... 1240 00:52:08,081 --> 00:52:09,604 died too young. 1241 00:52:20,572 --> 00:52:22,922 When we started coming here, he was digging. 1242 00:52:23,009 --> 00:52:25,229 Now, they got memorabilia, T-shirts, all that, but... 1243 00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,797 It is ice cold. 1244 00:52:28,884 --> 00:52:30,147 Shit. 1245 00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:35,239 I've been here so many times. You have no idea. 1246 00:52:35,326 --> 00:52:36,892 Even after I had records, we still would come in here, 1247 00:52:36,979 --> 00:52:38,198 and he would dig. 1248 00:52:38,285 --> 00:52:39,982 And we had, you know, singles out. 1249 00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:42,942 Our singles would be here on the wall. 1250 00:52:43,029 --> 00:52:44,987 There go Dilla's signature right there. 1251 00:52:45,074 --> 00:52:46,859 - All right. - Yep. 1252 00:52:46,946 --> 00:52:49,078 "Jay Dee, Slum Village." 1253 00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:52,299 And then if we go all the way down over here, 1254 00:52:52,386 --> 00:52:54,171 you'll find your boy Nitty... 1255 00:52:54,258 --> 00:52:55,650 - All right. - Right there. 1256 00:52:55,737 --> 00:52:57,217 That's what's up. 1257 00:52:57,304 --> 00:52:58,871 - You want to go above Quest? - Okay, sounds good. 1258 00:52:58,958 --> 00:53:00,177 - That good? - Yeah. 1259 00:53:03,310 --> 00:53:05,051 All right. - Thank you. 1260 00:53:05,138 --> 00:53:07,184 I feel honored. 1261 00:53:07,271 --> 00:53:08,533 You know what's a good example? 1262 00:53:08,620 --> 00:53:10,099 Check with--what is it-- 1263 00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:12,624 "Why I Got To Be Like That," Pharcyde, okay? 1264 00:53:12,711 --> 00:53:16,410 And then listen to "Do For Love" by Tupac. 1265 00:53:16,497 --> 00:53:20,109 J, he took record digging to a whole nother level. 1266 00:53:20,197 --> 00:53:25,158 I mean, he would come in, literally sit down, 1267 00:53:25,245 --> 00:53:27,900 grab the most obscure jazz album 1268 00:53:27,987 --> 00:53:30,381 that you could actually think of, 1269 00:53:30,468 --> 00:53:33,558 and he would play X amount of songs. 1270 00:53:33,645 --> 00:53:38,040 His knowledge was just a joy to behold. 1271 00:53:38,127 --> 00:53:39,868 The last three years, all production, 1272 00:53:39,955 --> 00:53:41,609 just trying to get my name out. 1273 00:53:41,696 --> 00:53:43,568 I still consider myself underground, very underground. 1274 00:53:43,655 --> 00:53:47,224 I want to get across there and still do what I do. 1275 00:53:47,311 --> 00:53:50,314 You know, and Detroit is the type of city 1276 00:53:50,401 --> 00:53:54,143 where, if you don't come correct, 1277 00:53:54,231 --> 00:53:56,102 you will be called out for it. 1278 00:53:56,189 --> 00:53:58,757 I mean, talk about no-fly zone. 1279 00:53:58,844 --> 00:54:00,193 Krrrr! 1280 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,760 That's how bad it is. 1281 00:54:01,847 --> 00:54:04,110 You know, don't let the smooth taste fool you. 1282 00:54:04,197 --> 00:54:05,807 We handle our own around here. 1283 00:54:05,894 --> 00:54:07,635 But we also praise... 1284 00:54:07,722 --> 00:54:08,984 When it's done correctly? 1285 00:54:09,071 --> 00:54:11,204 When it's done correct, yes. 1286 00:54:11,291 --> 00:54:12,945 Oh, most definitely. 1287 00:54:13,032 --> 00:54:15,339 Excellent, because that's what this is all about. 1288 00:54:15,426 --> 00:54:16,992 This is all about doing it correctly. 1289 00:54:21,301 --> 00:54:24,739 It has a weirdness to it. 1290 00:54:24,826 --> 00:54:27,438 I could definitely sense, you know, 1291 00:54:27,525 --> 00:54:30,658 the territorial aspect of people's 1292 00:54:30,745 --> 00:54:33,095 relationships with Dilla-- that I didn't have this. 1293 00:54:33,182 --> 00:54:34,358 You know, I wasn't in the room. 1294 00:54:34,445 --> 00:54:36,273 I wasn't there. You know, I get it. 1295 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,753 I would be a little territorial as well probably. 1296 00:54:40,886 --> 00:54:42,235 Yo... 1297 00:54:46,544 --> 00:54:48,415 Oh, wow. 1298 00:54:48,502 --> 00:54:50,591 Man. 1299 00:54:50,678 --> 00:54:53,551 That's kind of the energy that-- 1300 00:54:53,638 --> 00:54:55,553 you know, like, the energy that exists around this 1301 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,296 is very elusive. 1302 00:54:59,383 --> 00:55:01,254 Yeah. 1303 00:55:01,341 --> 00:55:05,084 Ask her, you know, if I may, what happened? 1304 00:55:17,879 --> 00:55:20,621 Even if she don't do it, whoever she talking to, 1305 00:55:20,708 --> 00:55:23,320 she should be armed with the truth about the situation. 1306 00:55:23,407 --> 00:55:24,973 They don't know if I'm a piece of shit trying to take 1307 00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:26,235 advantage of a situation. 1308 00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:27,802 Why should I trust you? 1309 00:55:27,889 --> 00:55:29,369 So whatever the fuck they saying... 1310 00:55:29,456 --> 00:55:32,851 Yeah, and I'm definitely trying not to... 1311 00:55:32,938 --> 00:55:36,071 take anything personal. 1312 00:55:36,158 --> 00:55:38,378 It's not even a "fuck you" thing. 1313 00:55:40,815 --> 00:55:44,253 It's a "what the fuck are you doing?" thing. 1314 00:55:57,745 --> 00:55:59,660 Hey, Dres. 1315 00:55:59,747 --> 00:56:01,619 What's going on? 1316 00:56:01,706 --> 00:56:04,839 So I just got off the phone with Toney and Ma's attorney. 1317 00:56:04,926 --> 00:56:06,275 Oh, yeah? 1318 00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:07,929 And there seems to be a little bit 1319 00:56:08,016 --> 00:56:10,889 of hesitancy on their part about this project, 1320 00:56:10,976 --> 00:56:13,282 in general. 1321 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:16,373 This is coming from-- 1322 00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:18,549 it's coming from left field. 1323 00:56:18,636 --> 00:56:20,725 - I'm sorry. - This is news to me. 1324 00:56:20,812 --> 00:56:22,727 Yeah, do you have anything signed 1325 00:56:22,814 --> 00:56:24,685 with them at this point? 1326 00:56:24,772 --> 00:56:27,427 Remember when we were first putting this together? 1327 00:56:27,514 --> 00:56:28,950 - Yeah. - You told me-- 1328 00:56:29,037 --> 00:56:31,431 let's clarify everything going on with the music. 1329 00:56:31,518 --> 00:56:35,609 But the music--it was done on the goodwill 1330 00:56:35,696 --> 00:56:37,655 of me, Toney, and Ma. - Okay. 1331 00:56:37,742 --> 00:56:40,397 I've been moving forward and speaking like-- 1332 00:56:40,484 --> 00:56:44,662 like I had Ma's blessings-- that they allowed me to do 1333 00:56:44,749 --> 00:56:46,011 this from the very beginning. 1334 00:56:46,098 --> 00:56:48,187 Yeah, look, Dres, if I'm understanding correctly, 1335 00:56:48,274 --> 00:56:50,885 you haven't had a chance to paper up a deal yet 1336 00:56:50,972 --> 00:56:52,409 for the album itself, right? 1337 00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:55,107 I'm the only one that's spent money in the creation 1338 00:56:55,194 --> 00:56:56,151 of this project. 1339 00:56:56,238 --> 00:56:58,197 No one else has. 1340 00:56:58,284 --> 00:57:00,112 I've spent thousands upon thousands of dollars 1341 00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,245 creating this, getting all kinds of features. 1342 00:57:03,332 --> 00:57:07,336 And I was under the assumption that, in good faith, 1343 00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:08,990 they're my partners. 1344 00:57:09,077 --> 00:57:10,775 They represent Dilla's interests. 1345 00:57:10,862 --> 00:57:13,299 J Dilla is the producer, and I'm the MC. 1346 00:57:13,386 --> 00:57:15,257 I got--that makes total sense. 1347 00:57:15,344 --> 00:57:18,217 I know a lot of things get lost in translation sometimes. 1348 00:57:18,304 --> 00:57:21,829 I think Toney might have maybe misconstrued-- 1349 00:57:21,916 --> 00:57:24,528 Like, I even asked her on film, you know, 1350 00:57:24,615 --> 00:57:27,269 why did she give me permission to do this? 1351 00:57:27,356 --> 00:57:30,185 And the answer, you know, was heartwarming. 1352 00:57:30,272 --> 00:57:32,231 I don't understand where this is coming from. 1353 00:57:32,318 --> 00:57:35,452 Look, I'm not sure if this is a game or a tactic, 1354 00:57:35,539 --> 00:57:37,454 but I'm just doing my best 1355 00:57:37,541 --> 00:57:39,151 to kind of alleviate their concerns. 1356 00:57:39,238 --> 00:57:42,807 So the sooner we get something in writing that outlines 1357 00:57:42,894 --> 00:57:45,200 exactly what this relationship is 1358 00:57:45,287 --> 00:57:46,898 and exactly what you guys are doing, the better. 1359 00:57:46,985 --> 00:57:48,465 Well, let's put it under contract. 1360 00:57:48,552 --> 00:57:49,988 I hope we can figure this out. 1361 00:57:50,075 --> 00:57:52,991 I don't know where they went off track. 1362 00:57:53,078 --> 00:57:57,212 I literally look at them like an extension of my family 1363 00:57:57,299 --> 00:57:58,605 at this point. 1364 00:57:58,692 --> 00:58:00,433 But... 1365 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,566 It sounds like you really need to talk to a lawyer. 1366 00:58:02,653 --> 00:58:03,697 Yeah. 1367 00:58:03,784 --> 00:58:05,264 I appreciate it. 1368 00:58:35,512 --> 00:58:37,731 What's really fascinating in the music industry 1369 00:58:37,818 --> 00:58:42,519 is most artists have this optimistic view of things. 1370 00:58:42,606 --> 00:58:44,651 They go into the studio. They write together. 1371 00:58:44,738 --> 00:58:45,957 They hang out. 1372 00:58:46,044 --> 00:58:47,654 As y'all pass this, y'all are going 1373 00:58:47,741 --> 00:58:48,916 to notice that he looks like he's about 1374 00:58:49,003 --> 00:58:50,744 to spit a serious rhyme. 1375 00:58:50,831 --> 00:58:53,660 That because they work so well with each other 1376 00:58:53,747 --> 00:58:56,402 that the contractual nature of it will just all work out. 1377 00:58:56,489 --> 00:58:58,926 They just do and create. 1378 00:58:59,013 --> 00:59:02,016 It's a very nice way to view the world. 1379 00:59:02,103 --> 00:59:04,802 Unfortunately... 1380 00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:07,674 that's why you need me, 1381 00:59:07,761 --> 00:59:09,894 because that's not what the world is about. 1382 00:59:09,981 --> 00:59:12,026 Here, just sit on this chair. Just sit over here. 1383 00:59:12,113 --> 00:59:14,072 Here, let me grab your bag. - Oh, thanks. 1384 00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:17,902 In this specific case, which is Dres, the organic nature 1385 00:59:17,989 --> 00:59:20,644 of the way this came about, which is him just happening 1386 00:59:20,731 --> 00:59:23,342 to be at a show and happened to be invited 1387 00:59:23,429 --> 00:59:26,693 by Ma to her house and happened to talk to Toney, 1388 00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:30,131 who happened to give him material, 1389 00:59:30,218 --> 00:59:33,134 his first step wasn't, like, hey, lawyer. 1390 00:59:33,221 --> 00:59:36,137 Go call Ma Dukes' lawyer and get a contract. 1391 00:59:36,224 --> 00:59:38,879 It's just not the way people think. 1392 00:59:38,966 --> 00:59:42,535 All right, so... 1393 00:59:42,622 --> 00:59:45,886 I'm not sure if-- do you know I met with-- 1394 00:59:45,973 --> 00:59:47,584 with Ma Dukes and Toney-- 1395 00:59:47,671 --> 00:59:49,586 - Okay. - On Thursday? 1396 00:59:49,673 --> 00:59:51,022 Yeah. How'd that go? 1397 00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:53,764 It's my understanding that Ma Dukes, 1398 00:59:53,851 --> 00:59:57,376 through Toney's music publishing company, 1399 00:59:57,463 --> 00:59:58,943 controls the rights to the music... 1400 00:59:59,030 --> 01:00:00,422 at this point. 1401 01:00:00,509 --> 01:00:04,339 Their concern, I think, is, you know, natural 1402 01:00:04,426 --> 01:00:06,124 because there's so much product out 1403 01:00:06,211 --> 01:00:08,126 in the marketplace right now, J Dilla product, 1404 01:00:08,213 --> 01:00:09,997 that's unauthorized. - Right. 1405 01:00:10,084 --> 01:00:12,652 That's one of the hesitancies of them. 1406 01:00:12,739 --> 01:00:15,046 If you look on YouTube or on Instagram 1407 01:00:15,133 --> 01:00:18,005 or even Spotify and Apple, 1408 01:00:18,092 --> 01:00:20,094 you see unauthorized Dilla tracks. 1409 01:00:20,181 --> 01:00:21,922 Definitely. 1410 01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:24,055 Their hesitancy and uncomfortableness 1411 01:00:24,142 --> 01:00:26,884 is you were going off and doing your thing, 1412 01:00:26,971 --> 01:00:29,147 and you were getting features, and you 1413 01:00:29,234 --> 01:00:30,670 were making the tracks work. 1414 01:00:30,757 --> 01:00:33,064 And they didn't have a real understanding 1415 01:00:33,151 --> 01:00:35,719 of what was going on with their son's music. 1416 01:00:35,806 --> 01:00:37,546 I paid for all of these sessions 1417 01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:38,983 and told you all about every single-- 1418 01:00:39,070 --> 01:00:40,506 you know, like, every step. 1419 01:00:40,593 --> 01:00:42,421 This is why having contracts with them 1420 01:00:42,508 --> 01:00:44,597 is so important to them 1421 01:00:44,684 --> 01:00:47,426 and, obviously, so important to you. 1422 01:00:47,513 --> 01:00:50,037 One of the other problems is the estate. 1423 01:00:50,124 --> 01:00:51,952 It's a bit messy. 1424 01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:56,261 In addition to Ma, there are other parties that are vying 1425 01:00:56,348 --> 01:00:58,045 for control of the music. 1426 01:00:58,132 --> 01:01:01,266 And it's one of the things we just have to clean up, 1427 01:01:01,353 --> 01:01:03,703 which is, I think, you know, one of the reasons 1428 01:01:03,790 --> 01:01:06,010 that you should just take a step back for a moment 1429 01:01:06,097 --> 01:01:08,839 so we can, you know, get some clarity on that. 1430 01:01:08,926 --> 01:01:10,188 - All right. - Don't focus on it. 1431 01:01:10,275 --> 01:01:13,452 Don't do any recording. Don't talk about it. 1432 01:01:13,539 --> 01:01:17,630 Go and do Dres, tour, produce. You know, do your thing. 1433 01:01:17,717 --> 01:01:19,763 I've taken it as far as, in my heart, 1434 01:01:19,850 --> 01:01:22,679 like, I'm looking at them as Dilla 1435 01:01:22,766 --> 01:01:25,029 and that me and Dilla are a duo. 1436 01:01:25,116 --> 01:01:29,947 What she's affording me is the platform... 1437 01:01:30,034 --> 01:01:31,992 - Right. - For the world to see 1438 01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,255 exactly what I have to say today. 1439 01:01:34,342 --> 01:01:36,170 - No, I-- - And that's all I need. 1440 01:01:36,257 --> 01:01:38,129 That's all I need. 1441 01:01:38,216 --> 01:01:40,000 You know, there's no paperwork. 1442 01:01:40,087 --> 01:01:42,524 So let us focus on Dilla, 1443 01:01:42,611 --> 01:01:45,310 because if we can't make this deal, 1444 01:01:45,397 --> 01:01:48,487 then these tracks will never see the light of day. 1445 01:01:48,574 --> 01:01:52,404 All of our time and your money is going to go to waste. 1446 01:01:52,491 --> 01:01:56,495 Let us work on this so we can get this deal done. 1447 01:01:56,582 --> 01:01:57,844 All right. 1448 01:02:01,674 --> 01:02:04,459 I've been the same artist I've been my entire career, 1449 01:02:04,546 --> 01:02:07,375 but the music industry can definitely make 1450 01:02:07,462 --> 01:02:10,030 anyone uneasy. 1451 01:02:10,117 --> 01:02:11,684 Is this right? Is this correct? 1452 01:02:11,771 --> 01:02:14,252 Is anything going to fall on me? 1453 01:02:14,339 --> 01:02:17,821 And as much as "The Choice Is Yours" puts me 1454 01:02:17,908 --> 01:02:19,866 in a lot of rooms and things thereof, 1455 01:02:19,953 --> 01:02:22,695 it doesn't afford me what this project is about to afford me. 1456 01:02:25,219 --> 01:02:27,526 From here off, I think is taking 1457 01:02:27,613 --> 01:02:31,225 some of my eggs out of this basket and this project. 1458 01:02:33,967 --> 01:02:36,622 There's hundreds of thousands of examples 1459 01:02:36,709 --> 01:02:39,146 of records that have been made that will never, 1460 01:02:39,233 --> 01:02:40,713 ever see the light of day. 1461 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,847 It's called shelving. 1462 01:02:43,934 --> 01:02:47,372 You know, the question is, will this Dres and Dilla album 1463 01:02:47,459 --> 01:02:49,548 be one of them? 1464 01:02:58,339 --> 01:03:00,080 How'd you sleep? 1465 01:03:00,167 --> 01:03:02,082 - Oh, slept well. - Yeah? 1466 01:03:02,169 --> 01:03:02,909 Good. 1467 01:03:06,434 --> 01:03:08,175 I told you I've got to go to Milwaukee today, right? 1468 01:03:08,262 --> 01:03:10,917 Yep. 1469 01:03:11,004 --> 01:03:12,789 Did I tell you what I was doing? 1470 01:03:12,876 --> 01:03:15,530 I told you I was doing a day party for Adidas-- 1471 01:03:15,617 --> 01:03:17,228 the sneaker company? 1472 01:03:17,315 --> 01:03:20,231 - Yeah, I know what that is. - Okay, cool. 1473 01:03:20,318 --> 01:03:22,711 I definitely would like to think that there's 1474 01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,279 something inside of me that-- 1475 01:03:25,366 --> 01:03:27,586 that shines inside of Sid. 1476 01:03:27,673 --> 01:03:29,849 Hey, Sidney. Hi. 1477 01:03:29,936 --> 01:03:31,459 - Say, "Happy Father's Day." 1478 01:03:31,546 --> 01:03:33,331 That's my boy. 1479 01:03:33,418 --> 01:03:34,898 Who is that? 1480 01:03:34,985 --> 01:03:36,987 Who is that with them pearly-white teeth? 1481 01:03:37,074 --> 01:03:38,510 Is that my baby? 1482 01:03:38,597 --> 01:03:41,382 Mwah! Don't be so happy about it. 1483 01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:44,124 Sid has grown up with me in and out. 1484 01:03:44,211 --> 01:03:46,126 Like, you know, it's kind of a running joke in the house. 1485 01:03:46,213 --> 01:03:48,520 You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm always leaving. 1486 01:03:48,607 --> 01:03:51,001 Hi, everybody. 1487 01:03:51,088 --> 01:03:53,046 Now say, "bye." 1488 01:03:53,133 --> 01:03:55,440 He always sees me traveling, going back and forth... 1489 01:03:55,527 --> 01:03:57,877 Say, "hello." - Hi. 1490 01:03:57,964 --> 01:04:00,445 Writing, reciting, practicing. 1491 01:04:00,532 --> 01:04:02,142 That's dad's 9:00-to-5:00. 1492 01:04:02,229 --> 01:04:05,189 Dad is unorthodox in the degree that, you know, 1493 01:04:05,276 --> 01:04:08,061 he doesn't see me get up at 7:00 in the morning 1494 01:04:08,148 --> 01:04:10,803 and go to the office and come back, ever. 1495 01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:14,285 But he's always seen me working. 1496 01:04:14,372 --> 01:04:16,200 Did you finish? - Yeah. 1497 01:04:16,287 --> 01:04:19,507 There were 154 questions total on the test, 1498 01:04:19,594 --> 01:04:23,990 and I got through, like, 130. - That's pretty good. 1499 01:04:24,077 --> 01:04:28,038 You know, like I didn't grow up in a nuclear family. 1500 01:04:28,125 --> 01:04:30,649 Be right back, Sid. 1501 01:04:30,736 --> 01:04:34,522 So me learning how to create 1502 01:04:34,609 --> 01:04:37,917 a peaceful home is a process. 1503 01:04:38,004 --> 01:04:39,614 I don't come from it. 1504 01:04:39,701 --> 01:04:43,488 So there's times when I've had to trial-and-error. 1505 01:04:45,316 --> 01:04:46,883 That's something that your family 1506 01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:49,146 has to go through with you. 1507 01:04:49,233 --> 01:04:52,105 What planet has a ring? - That's Saturn. 1508 01:04:52,192 --> 01:04:53,672 Okay, smart boy. 1509 01:04:53,759 --> 01:04:56,109 I live Saturn, too. 1510 01:04:56,196 --> 01:04:59,373 You live on Saturn, too? I live on Earth. 1511 01:04:59,460 --> 01:05:01,071 Maybe you take me with you when you get older 1512 01:05:01,158 --> 01:05:04,030 and you go into space? - Okay. 1513 01:05:04,117 --> 01:05:06,424 I just want you to know, I'm a huge fan. 1514 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:13,300 Like all my kids, they're dreamers, without question. 1515 01:05:13,387 --> 01:05:15,781 And that's important. It's important to dream. 1516 01:05:15,868 --> 01:05:17,391 Love you. - Bye. 1517 01:05:17,478 --> 01:05:19,219 - I'll see you later, okay? - Yeah. 1518 01:05:19,306 --> 01:05:20,655 All right. 1519 01:05:20,742 --> 01:05:21,918 Yeah, call Mom when you're hungry. 1520 01:05:22,005 --> 01:05:24,485 - Yeah. - All right? 1521 01:05:24,572 --> 01:05:27,662 You know, like, that's the shit that ages you-- 1522 01:05:27,749 --> 01:05:30,709 when you stop dreaming. 1523 01:05:30,796 --> 01:05:32,711 But when you're young, 1524 01:05:32,798 --> 01:05:35,453 you might not see where reality and dreams meet. 1525 01:05:38,151 --> 01:05:41,241 Yo, how y'all feeling? 1526 01:05:41,328 --> 01:05:43,896 Yo, how y'all feeling? 1527 01:05:43,983 --> 01:05:45,637 Yo, my name is Dres. 1528 01:05:45,724 --> 01:05:49,075 I go by the name of the sugar-dick daddy Mista Lawnge. 1529 01:05:49,162 --> 01:05:50,120 As you get older, that becomes 1530 01:05:50,207 --> 01:05:51,773 a little bit more definitive, 1531 01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:54,559 definitely with your career and relationships. 1532 01:05:54,646 --> 01:05:55,864 Once you become an artist, you have 1533 01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:57,301 a sense of responsibility. 1534 01:05:57,388 --> 01:05:58,389 We have a sense of responsibility 1535 01:05:58,476 --> 01:05:59,825 to all of these people right here-- 1536 01:05:59,912 --> 01:06:00,782 you know, things that we're doing. 1537 01:06:00,869 --> 01:06:02,132 They look at us. 1538 01:06:02,219 --> 01:06:03,263 But at the same time, I really have 1539 01:06:03,350 --> 01:06:05,178 to stress that people are people, 1540 01:06:05,265 --> 01:06:07,311 and people make mistakes, and nobody's perfect. 1541 01:06:07,398 --> 01:06:10,053 Like, me and Lawnge-- anything can happen. 1542 01:06:10,140 --> 01:06:12,577 What's the name of this group on the stage tonight? 1543 01:06:12,664 --> 01:06:13,534 all: Black Sheep! 1544 01:06:13,621 --> 01:06:15,667 Say what? 1545 01:06:15,754 --> 01:06:20,280 You know, sometimes you outgrow relationships. 1546 01:06:20,367 --> 01:06:21,890 You got Mista Lawnge and Dres in the house. 1547 01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:24,415 Man, what y'all been doing for two years, man? 1548 01:06:24,502 --> 01:06:27,461 Y'all been on hiatus, man. - Back up off us, man. 1549 01:06:27,548 --> 01:06:28,810 We hear a lot of-- 1550 01:06:28,897 --> 01:06:30,203 well, you want to go ahead and elaborate? 1551 01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:31,770 Nah, man. 1552 01:06:31,857 --> 01:06:33,119 - Say no more. - We'll be back-- 1553 01:06:33,206 --> 01:06:35,208 We got Black Sheep in the house. 1554 01:06:35,295 --> 01:06:36,993 I missed me and Lawnge being Black Sheep 1555 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,995 and having the knowledge of each other, 1556 01:06:39,082 --> 01:06:40,735 as well of ourselves. 1557 01:06:40,822 --> 01:06:41,867 We had vision. 1558 01:06:41,954 --> 01:06:43,608 We had concept. 1559 01:06:43,695 --> 01:06:47,046 You know, we were a package before we ever hit wax. 1560 01:06:48,787 --> 01:06:52,660 ♪ Yo, who's the black sheep? What's the black sheep? ♪ 1561 01:06:52,747 --> 01:06:55,446 You know, people definitely always affiliated 1562 01:06:55,533 --> 01:06:57,143 "The Choice Is Yours" with me and Lawnge. 1563 01:06:57,230 --> 01:06:58,884 Peace, brother. Pardon me. 1564 01:06:58,971 --> 01:07:00,886 - Black Sheep, right? - No doubt. 1565 01:07:00,973 --> 01:07:03,497 But at this point, people have literally seen me on my own 1566 01:07:03,584 --> 01:07:04,846 for years. 1567 01:07:04,933 --> 01:07:07,501 What up, baby? - How you doing? 1568 01:07:07,588 --> 01:07:10,374 And with Strike shadowing me, they've 1569 01:07:10,461 --> 01:07:13,377 come to understand that me and Lawnge aren't together. 1570 01:07:13,464 --> 01:07:14,987 So I think, you know, like, they kind of 1571 01:07:15,074 --> 01:07:18,512 put my face to the song today more so than they do Lawnge. 1572 01:07:20,123 --> 01:07:21,646 Please make sure your seat belt is-- 1573 01:07:21,733 --> 01:07:23,256 You know, like, people have asked me, like, 1574 01:07:23,343 --> 01:07:25,084 do I ever get tired of performing "Choice Is Yours"? 1575 01:07:25,171 --> 01:07:26,999 Coming on, doing, like, one song and everything, 1576 01:07:27,086 --> 01:07:29,306 and they just pulled me in for that. 1577 01:07:29,393 --> 01:07:32,439 But that's beyond a blessing. 1578 01:07:32,526 --> 01:07:34,789 Life is going to be what it is. 1579 01:07:34,876 --> 01:07:36,400 You know what I'm saying? 1580 01:07:36,487 --> 01:07:38,532 It's not always going to be a sunny day. 1581 01:07:40,708 --> 01:07:42,406 It's cold. 1582 01:07:42,493 --> 01:07:44,234 Milwaukee is about that action. 1583 01:07:44,321 --> 01:07:45,061 Remember when we was-- where was we at? 1584 01:07:45,148 --> 01:07:47,280 It was Sweden or something. 1585 01:07:47,367 --> 01:07:48,934 It was nice when we went in the club, and we came out-- 1586 01:07:49,021 --> 01:07:50,588 - We came out, it was snowing. - It was snowing. 1587 01:07:50,675 --> 01:07:52,155 It was like we was in Maine or something. 1588 01:07:52,242 --> 01:07:53,547 Yo, shit was crazy. 1589 01:08:04,776 --> 01:08:06,299 Hello? 1590 01:08:06,386 --> 01:08:08,084 - Mr. Dawson. - Yes, sir. 1591 01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:09,476 Hey, how's it going? This is Dres from Black Sheep. 1592 01:08:09,563 --> 01:08:11,652 I was just trying to find out what 1593 01:08:11,739 --> 01:08:15,917 time you would be arriving to grab us from the hotel. 1594 01:08:17,919 --> 01:08:19,791 You perform at 6:00, right? 1595 01:08:19,878 --> 01:08:21,619 5:20. 1596 01:08:21,706 --> 01:08:22,794 Let's say 4:30. 1597 01:08:22,881 --> 01:08:24,143 - 4:30? - Yeah. 1598 01:08:24,230 --> 01:08:25,623 - Okay. - All right. 1599 01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:26,580 See you then, bro. - All right. 1600 01:08:28,843 --> 01:08:29,757 Okay, cool. 1601 01:08:56,175 --> 01:08:57,698 I'm not with the bullshit. 1602 01:08:57,785 --> 01:09:01,702 Like, and if there was a issue, why didn't I hear from-- 1603 01:09:01,789 --> 01:09:05,097 Like-- 1604 01:09:05,184 --> 01:09:09,580 Yeah. Yeah, like... 1605 01:09:09,667 --> 01:09:11,277 Yeah. 1606 01:09:11,364 --> 01:09:12,844 That doesn't even make sense. 1607 01:09:12,931 --> 01:09:15,063 Like, why are we doing it-- you know what I'm saying-- 1608 01:09:15,151 --> 01:09:16,761 if we're not, you know-- 1609 01:09:16,848 --> 01:09:17,979 Yeah. 1610 01:09:18,066 --> 01:09:21,548 Well, let me just... 1611 01:09:26,727 --> 01:09:28,990 And that shit is a bluff. Fuck. 1612 01:09:29,077 --> 01:09:32,168 Like, I can't imagine... 1613 01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:34,953 Toney not signing off on this shit. 1614 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,304 As much as he's talking about it... 1615 01:09:38,391 --> 01:09:41,394 I can't imagine it not coming out and it being his fault. 1616 01:09:41,481 --> 01:09:43,744 She said out of her mouth, this is signed off. 1617 01:09:43,831 --> 01:09:45,920 Yeah, like they-- 1618 01:09:46,007 --> 01:09:47,095 Fucking studio fees. 1619 01:09:47,183 --> 01:09:49,228 Let me just do what I'm doing. 1620 01:09:49,315 --> 01:09:52,492 Because if they keep that shit up, man-- 1621 01:09:52,579 --> 01:09:54,451 Let's go. 1622 01:09:54,538 --> 01:09:55,800 We out. 1623 01:09:55,887 --> 01:09:58,019 Yeah. 1624 01:10:01,327 --> 01:10:03,634 I'm just going to step back and do what I do. 1625 01:10:03,721 --> 01:10:05,853 Y'all do what y'all do. Just figure this shit out. 1626 01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:07,768 You know? 1627 01:10:12,033 --> 01:10:13,644 If you were in the middle of making a project, 1628 01:10:13,731 --> 01:10:15,646 and you've been working on it for a long time, 1629 01:10:15,733 --> 01:10:17,648 you believe you're taking all the proper measures 1630 01:10:17,735 --> 01:10:19,432 to get it done, I can certainly understand 1631 01:10:19,519 --> 01:10:22,130 why an article in "Rolling Stone" stating 1632 01:10:22,218 --> 01:10:24,132 that, in fact, you have done none of those things 1633 01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:26,091 and the album is unsanctioned 1634 01:10:26,178 --> 01:10:27,614 and doing this without permission 1635 01:10:27,701 --> 01:10:30,269 would be frustrating, to say the least. 1636 01:10:32,184 --> 01:10:34,360 I've been coming to Milwaukee 1637 01:10:34,447 --> 01:10:36,232 for a lot of years, right? 1638 01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:37,407 But now I think we're going to be doing a lot of parties 1639 01:10:37,494 --> 01:10:39,235 together out here with each other, right? 1640 01:10:40,323 --> 01:10:41,846 Got to do the intro. 1641 01:10:41,933 --> 01:10:44,501 Definitely warm up your mic. 1642 01:10:44,588 --> 01:10:47,460 I'm gonna position myself so as soon as it drops, 1643 01:10:47,547 --> 01:10:50,985 I'm walking out. 1644 01:10:51,072 --> 01:10:55,425 But I don't want you to just-- you know, yeah, like--yeah. 1645 01:10:55,512 --> 01:10:58,645 Cool, cool, cool. This is going to be fun. 1646 01:10:58,732 --> 01:11:01,474 ♪ I'm for the hood, yo, I'm for the struggle beat ♪ 1647 01:11:04,042 --> 01:11:05,086 - Ready? - Yes, sir. 1648 01:11:06,827 --> 01:11:08,438 How many of us are 35 and older? 1649 01:11:08,525 --> 01:11:11,832 Make some noise. 1650 01:11:11,919 --> 01:11:14,966 How many of us are under 35? 1651 01:11:15,053 --> 01:11:18,491 Okay, okay, welcome, welcome, motherfuckers, welcome. 1652 01:11:18,578 --> 01:11:20,841 On the ones and twos might join DJ Strike holding me 1653 01:11:20,928 --> 01:11:23,409 down for a dozen years now. - What up? What up? 1654 01:11:23,496 --> 01:11:24,976 This is going to be a little bit different than anything 1655 01:11:25,063 --> 01:11:26,020 you've been to. 1656 01:11:26,107 --> 01:11:28,675 We don't get litty. 1657 01:11:28,762 --> 01:11:30,068 We rock shit. 1658 01:11:30,155 --> 01:11:31,417 So we going to rock shit tonight. 1659 01:11:31,504 --> 01:11:33,289 We rock shit! 1660 01:11:33,376 --> 01:11:34,855 Can we have some fun in Milwaukee? 1661 01:11:36,727 --> 01:11:38,294 Hip-hop is definitely in the house. 1662 01:11:38,381 --> 01:11:40,078 - Let's go. - Word. 1663 01:11:40,165 --> 01:11:41,645 And let's get into some shit. 1664 01:11:41,732 --> 01:11:42,907 My name is Dres. 1665 01:11:42,994 --> 01:11:43,908 Y'all know what it is. 1666 01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:48,913 All right, let's do this. 1667 01:11:51,132 --> 01:11:53,221 ♪ Who's the black sheep? What's the black sheep? ♪ 1668 01:11:53,309 --> 01:11:55,006 ♪ Know not who I am... ♪ 1669 01:12:02,056 --> 01:12:05,886 Doing shows is me breathing, being on the road, 1670 01:12:05,973 --> 01:12:07,584 me working, me hustling, me grabbing 1671 01:12:07,671 --> 01:12:10,543 any mic that had hip-hop 1672 01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:12,937 and a paycheck affiliated with it. 1673 01:12:13,024 --> 01:12:14,373 That's my life. 1674 01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:16,723 If you can. It goes... 1675 01:12:16,810 --> 01:12:17,724 ♪ Engine, engine ♪ 1676 01:12:17,811 --> 01:12:19,204 all: Number 9! 1677 01:12:19,291 --> 01:12:20,901 ♪ On the New York ♪ 1678 01:12:20,988 --> 01:12:21,859 all: Transit line! 1679 01:12:21,946 --> 01:12:23,382 I get to rock-- 1680 01:12:23,469 --> 01:12:26,298 literally, rock-- audiences globally. 1681 01:12:26,385 --> 01:12:28,039 ♪ If my train goes off the track ♪ 1682 01:12:28,126 --> 01:12:30,215 ♪ Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up ♪ 1683 01:12:33,914 --> 01:12:35,394 I lived that. 1684 01:12:35,481 --> 01:12:37,831 That's how I paid for DnD. 1685 01:12:37,918 --> 01:12:41,966 And everything aside, that's beautiful. 1686 01:12:49,408 --> 01:12:50,975 Thank you for coming. 1687 01:12:51,062 --> 01:12:52,498 It was a pleasure to hang out with y'all, no doubt. 1688 01:12:52,585 --> 01:12:53,978 Back at you. - Appreciate you. 1689 01:12:56,154 --> 01:12:57,416 Now say, yeah. 1690 01:12:57,503 --> 01:12:58,548 all: Yeah! 1691 01:12:58,635 --> 01:13:01,725 That's what I'm talking about. 1692 01:13:01,812 --> 01:13:03,814 Performing-- 1693 01:13:03,901 --> 01:13:07,470 I have those memories of me and Lawnge. 1694 01:13:07,557 --> 01:13:11,343 One of the biggest secrets I think I learned from Lawnge 1695 01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:14,477 is to just have fun. 1696 01:13:14,564 --> 01:13:16,304 Milwaukee, big up yourselves. Word up. 1697 01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:17,741 Y'all got it going on. 1698 01:13:17,828 --> 01:13:20,439 Good job. Good job. You did that shit. 1699 01:13:20,526 --> 01:13:24,182 - I appreciate it. - All right, now. 1700 01:13:24,269 --> 01:13:27,881 As long as you're having fun, everyone is enjoying you. 1701 01:13:30,449 --> 01:13:31,624 It's that simple. 1702 01:13:36,020 --> 01:13:37,456 Whoo. 1703 01:13:37,543 --> 01:13:39,850 Did that. 1704 01:13:39,937 --> 01:13:41,199 That's done. 1705 01:13:49,207 --> 01:13:52,689 In 3, 2... 1706 01:13:52,776 --> 01:13:55,213 Ah, yo, check it. This is Dres. 1707 01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:57,607 And this is Mista Lawnge, the 9.5er. 1708 01:13:57,694 --> 01:13:59,043 Together we make up this group called what? 1709 01:13:59,130 --> 01:14:00,348 Black Sheep in the house. 1710 01:14:00,436 --> 01:14:03,264 Now we're rocking with who? 1711 01:14:03,351 --> 01:14:05,963 Oh, shit. 1712 01:14:06,050 --> 01:14:09,227 I would love to see Dres and Lawnge rock. 1713 01:14:09,314 --> 01:14:12,926 But with them not being together for so long, 1714 01:14:13,013 --> 01:14:14,014 it's tricky, man. 1715 01:14:14,101 --> 01:14:15,755 It's tricky. 1716 01:14:15,842 --> 01:14:17,540 Like, you want to see Black Sheep, 1717 01:14:17,627 --> 01:14:19,890 you know, this classic team-up of the two. 1718 01:14:19,977 --> 01:14:21,718 But we're all human beings. 1719 01:14:21,805 --> 01:14:24,111 It isn't easy. It isn't easy to talk about. 1720 01:14:24,198 --> 01:14:25,722 Yeah, I don't-- 1721 01:14:25,809 --> 01:14:27,201 I don't know if that's going to happen. 1722 01:14:27,288 --> 01:14:29,813 They were separated so long ago. 1723 01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:31,815 And since I've made it to New York 1724 01:14:31,902 --> 01:14:33,686 and have been around the scene, 1725 01:14:33,773 --> 01:14:35,993 I've gotten to know Dres over the years, always seen him. 1726 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,474 I don't recall of any interaction with Mista Lawnge. 1727 01:14:38,561 --> 01:14:40,519 So I have no idea. Where is he? 1728 01:14:40,606 --> 01:14:43,043 I don't know that they're beefing or whatever. 1729 01:14:43,130 --> 01:14:44,697 Is he going to be in the film? 1730 01:14:49,354 --> 01:14:51,530 Fat chance. Fat chance. 1731 01:14:51,617 --> 01:14:53,489 I'm saying, a good documentary 1732 01:14:53,576 --> 01:14:55,360 got to get to the bottom of what the fuck happened. 1733 01:14:55,447 --> 01:14:58,363 Well, first of all, where the fuck is he? 1734 01:14:58,450 --> 01:15:02,889 I have no idea-- no clue, none at all. 1735 01:15:02,976 --> 01:15:05,544 Like, yo, the nigga just disappeared off the Earth. 1736 01:15:05,631 --> 01:15:09,069 Like, I heard he's in Florida. 1737 01:15:09,156 --> 01:15:10,984 I don't know how valid that is. 1738 01:15:11,071 --> 01:15:13,160 Last time I heard, I think he's in North Carolina maybe. 1739 01:15:13,247 --> 01:15:15,206 I don't know. 1740 01:15:15,293 --> 01:15:16,294 That's interesting. 1741 01:15:16,381 --> 01:15:17,513 No, where is he? 1742 01:15:29,394 --> 01:15:32,092 In history, 1743 01:15:32,179 --> 01:15:35,182 it's always, what happened to that guy? 1744 01:15:35,269 --> 01:15:37,968 You see this guy. What happened to the other guy? 1745 01:15:38,055 --> 01:15:39,796 We know it's two. 1746 01:15:39,883 --> 01:15:42,581 You dig a little harder, and you dig a little harder, 1747 01:15:42,668 --> 01:15:44,801 and you dig a little harder. 1748 01:15:44,888 --> 01:15:48,152 But sometimes when you find that answer, 1749 01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:52,112 it does nothing because it may be by design. 1750 01:15:52,199 --> 01:15:54,288 It may be a plan. Who knows? 1751 01:15:57,683 --> 01:16:01,339 Deep down, I'll always be Mista Lawnge from Black Sheep. 1752 01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:06,300 But today I'm just dad. 1753 01:16:06,387 --> 01:16:08,259 No, you stop. You stop bugging. 1754 01:16:08,346 --> 01:16:10,261 No, I'm sorry. 1755 01:16:10,348 --> 01:16:14,047 A lot of stuff is a blur to me because it happened fast. 1756 01:16:14,134 --> 01:16:16,049 They just wanted to hear what we're capable of. 1757 01:16:16,136 --> 01:16:18,617 And then they gave us a demo budget to do 1758 01:16:18,704 --> 01:16:22,316 a real demo, you know, in a real studio. 1759 01:16:22,403 --> 01:16:25,711 I love hip-hop, and I love the music. 1760 01:16:25,798 --> 01:16:28,801 But I don't love what it comes with. 1761 01:16:28,888 --> 01:16:30,150 I mean, you guys are so young. 1762 01:16:30,237 --> 01:16:32,631 It doesn't matter what your age is. 1763 01:16:32,718 --> 01:16:34,938 You're letting people know us. 1764 01:16:35,025 --> 01:16:37,636 I'm 19 years old at the time, 1765 01:16:37,723 --> 01:16:39,943 fresh out of high school. 1766 01:16:40,030 --> 01:16:41,597 Here, go get on that stage. 1767 01:16:41,684 --> 01:16:43,555 Here, you're in front of stars. 1768 01:16:43,642 --> 01:16:45,383 You're shaking hands with A-listers. 1769 01:16:45,470 --> 01:16:49,605 You're, you know, teens making these big, mega hits. 1770 01:16:49,692 --> 01:16:53,043 When you have that success, 1771 01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:55,132 you have to maintain that success. 1772 01:16:55,219 --> 01:16:56,524 The choice is yours. 1773 01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:57,917 You can get with this, or you do that. 1774 01:16:58,004 --> 01:16:59,353 And that's what they want to see. 1775 01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:00,441 That's what they want to see. 1776 01:17:00,528 --> 01:17:02,879 And it was overwhelming. 1777 01:17:04,707 --> 01:17:08,449 That's what I hate about the music industry 1778 01:17:08,536 --> 01:17:10,321 and success-- 1779 01:17:10,408 --> 01:17:12,279 people's anticipation. 1780 01:17:12,366 --> 01:17:15,587 You get kind of a anxiety. 1781 01:17:15,674 --> 01:17:17,981 I'm not doing it for the love, anymore. 1782 01:17:18,068 --> 01:17:20,592 I'm doing it for their expectation. 1783 01:17:20,679 --> 01:17:22,159 How many people who grew up in hip-hop? 1784 01:17:22,246 --> 01:17:23,943 Make some noise if you grew up in hip-hop. 1785 01:17:25,858 --> 01:17:28,252 Hip-hop cannibalizes itself so much 1786 01:17:28,339 --> 01:17:30,733 that they're always looking for the next new. 1787 01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:32,865 Look at this. Forget that. 1788 01:17:32,952 --> 01:17:34,562 That's old. 1789 01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:37,130 Hip-hop is the only genre that that happens in. 1790 01:17:37,217 --> 01:17:41,787 That took away the love for what I was doing. 1791 01:17:41,874 --> 01:17:43,310 So I just left. 1792 01:17:45,791 --> 01:17:47,445 That was it. Yeah. 1793 01:17:50,535 --> 01:17:53,103 I'm the Naked Cowboy. 1794 01:17:53,190 --> 01:17:56,106 Ladies, take a picture with you, ladies, come on. 1795 01:17:56,193 --> 01:17:58,151 ♪ I'm the Naked Cowboy ♪ 1796 01:18:06,507 --> 01:18:09,859 You think about where you are in life, your age, 1797 01:18:09,946 --> 01:18:12,644 you know, and you think about people that you know and love, 1798 01:18:12,731 --> 01:18:15,299 the time that passes... 1799 01:18:17,867 --> 01:18:19,216 See, I got on fresh paint. 1800 01:18:19,303 --> 01:18:21,653 This is fresh paint, so you do it naturally, 1801 01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:24,569 so it's not super gray. 1802 01:18:24,656 --> 01:18:28,051 So you can always see the older rappers with freshly painted, 1803 01:18:28,138 --> 01:18:30,793 but right underneath is gray, a lot of gray-- 1804 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,316 the new growth. 1805 01:18:32,403 --> 01:18:34,448 Hey, it is what it is, man. 1806 01:18:38,496 --> 01:18:42,630 Coming back to New York is very nostalgic, 1807 01:18:42,718 --> 01:18:45,329 and it is motivation. 1808 01:18:45,416 --> 01:18:48,158 It really throws me right back into the space 1809 01:18:48,245 --> 01:18:51,291 that I was in with club life and Dres 1810 01:18:51,378 --> 01:18:54,599 and being around the music industry. 1811 01:18:54,686 --> 01:18:56,470 What led up to the success of Black Sheep 1812 01:18:56,557 --> 01:18:59,647 was what was fun for me. 1813 01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:03,173 That is the part that I try to hold on to the most. 1814 01:19:03,260 --> 01:19:06,393 It's been, like, 20-plus years. 1815 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,353 I'm hoping to really get that energy back. 1816 01:19:12,748 --> 01:19:16,490 You know, for me, when it comes to Black Sheep and Dres, 1817 01:19:16,577 --> 01:19:18,536 no, never say never. 1818 01:19:37,294 --> 01:19:39,687 Yo. 1819 01:19:39,775 --> 01:19:41,341 - What's going on, B? 1820 01:19:41,428 --> 01:19:43,561 - How you doing, man? - Good to see you, brother. 1821 01:19:43,648 --> 01:19:45,781 - Good to see you, too, man. - Word up. 1822 01:19:45,868 --> 01:19:47,913 Say hello to somebodies. - What up, world? 1823 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,307 It's Mista Lawnge from Black Sheep. 1824 01:19:50,394 --> 01:19:52,004 This is my brother right here, y'all. 1825 01:19:52,091 --> 01:19:53,527 It's been a long time since y'all got this picture. 1826 01:19:53,614 --> 01:19:55,225 I better freeze-frame that one. 1827 01:19:55,312 --> 01:19:56,922 Word up. - Stay tuned. 1828 01:19:57,009 --> 01:19:58,141 All right, for real, stay tuned. 1829 01:19:58,228 --> 01:19:59,620 Much love. 1830 01:19:59,707 --> 01:20:00,621 I'll catch y'all. 1831 01:20:21,468 --> 01:20:24,254 Where we're headed was one of the top shows 1832 01:20:24,341 --> 01:20:27,300 ever in my life-- the Apollo Theater. 1833 01:20:30,347 --> 01:20:33,045 The balcony was literally shaking up and down. 1834 01:20:33,132 --> 01:20:34,655 Didn't we have to tell people to stop jumping 1835 01:20:34,742 --> 01:20:36,483 because the shit was-- 1836 01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:38,268 Yeah, like, we really thought that shit was going to break. 1837 01:20:38,355 --> 01:20:39,791 Uh-huh. It's like, okay, now we're home. 1838 01:20:39,878 --> 01:20:42,533 Yep. 1839 01:20:42,620 --> 01:20:43,969 Wow. 1840 01:20:44,056 --> 01:20:47,190 Black Sheep--it's been years. It's been years. 1841 01:20:47,277 --> 01:20:48,844 Oh, my gosh. 1842 01:20:48,931 --> 01:20:50,062 Legends. 1843 01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:51,237 What's up? 1844 01:20:51,324 --> 01:20:52,978 How are you, man? - Long, long time. 1845 01:20:53,065 --> 01:20:54,719 Yeah, right. How's everything? 1846 01:20:54,806 --> 01:20:57,200 If you embrace Harlem, Harlem embraces you right back. 1847 01:20:57,287 --> 01:20:58,766 Good to see you, man. 1848 01:20:58,854 --> 01:21:00,420 This is our stomping grounds. 1849 01:21:00,507 --> 01:21:02,379 We'd meet in front of the Apollo. 1850 01:21:02,466 --> 01:21:03,902 Yep. 1851 01:21:03,989 --> 01:21:06,209 Upstairs was a studio at the time. 1852 01:21:06,296 --> 01:21:07,514 We mixed "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" 1853 01:21:07,601 --> 01:21:08,864 right in here. 1854 01:21:08,951 --> 01:21:11,083 So being here is very inspiring. 1855 01:21:11,170 --> 01:21:12,519 That's real. 1856 01:21:12,606 --> 01:21:14,043 And it also puts you in touch with-- 1857 01:21:14,130 --> 01:21:16,915 Like, this is who we do this shit for. 1858 01:21:17,002 --> 01:21:18,264 Y'all amazing. 1859 01:21:18,351 --> 01:21:19,918 Harlem gives that right back. 1860 01:21:20,005 --> 01:21:21,572 I respect what you're doing with the tribute. 1861 01:21:21,659 --> 01:21:22,747 Oh, I appreciate that, man. 1862 01:21:22,834 --> 01:21:24,749 This is coming home. 1863 01:21:24,836 --> 01:21:27,404 The world-famous Apollo Theater... 1864 01:21:27,491 --> 01:21:31,060 The Apollo Theater--first of all, it was sold out... 1865 01:21:31,147 --> 01:21:33,018 - Yeah. - Standing room only. 1866 01:21:33,105 --> 01:21:35,064 It was tense. It was anxiety. 1867 01:21:35,151 --> 01:21:38,328 It's like that before any big show. 1868 01:21:38,415 --> 01:21:41,853 I remember after that show us walking down 1869 01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:44,595 125th Street this way... 1870 01:21:44,682 --> 01:21:47,424 And every car going by was just honking at us. 1871 01:21:47,511 --> 01:21:50,731 It was like, y'all did it. 1872 01:21:50,818 --> 01:21:54,083 And we just walking, just floating down 125th Street, 1873 01:21:54,170 --> 01:21:57,173 just feeling like I wasn't touching the ground. 1874 01:21:57,260 --> 01:21:59,175 The stage has been graced by such artists 1875 01:21:59,262 --> 01:22:01,786 as Sammy Davis Jr., Count Basie... 1876 01:22:01,873 --> 01:22:03,092 Ella Fitzgerald. 1877 01:22:03,179 --> 01:22:04,615 It's a tradition of Black music. 1878 01:22:04,702 --> 01:22:07,226 For us, that was real important. 1879 01:22:07,313 --> 01:22:10,447 And then us doing stuff like late-night television-- 1880 01:22:10,534 --> 01:22:13,667 every audience--we were always having to prove ourselves. 1881 01:22:13,754 --> 01:22:16,148 It's Arsenio Hall! 1882 01:22:16,235 --> 01:22:18,759 - Time we did Arsenio... - I got something for y'all. 1883 01:22:18,846 --> 01:22:20,326 Oh, we got a great show for you. 1884 01:22:20,413 --> 01:22:22,111 I want to do some different shit. 1885 01:22:22,198 --> 01:22:25,679 So I was like, listen, we perform from the audience. 1886 01:22:25,766 --> 01:22:28,726 ♪ We're the Black Sheep ♪ 1887 01:22:28,813 --> 01:22:31,816 Arsenio was like, you got to talk to my producer 1888 01:22:31,903 --> 01:22:33,513 about that shit. 1889 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:34,993 So he took me to the producer. 1890 01:22:37,082 --> 01:22:40,956 He was like, okay, so let's just try it. 1891 01:22:41,043 --> 01:22:44,481 And the shit popped off. - Yeah, it was crazy. 1892 01:22:44,568 --> 01:22:46,352 It was crazy. 1893 01:22:48,093 --> 01:22:50,661 So that became a format for them to do that. 1894 01:22:50,748 --> 01:22:52,315 Are we ready? 1895 01:22:52,402 --> 01:22:54,360 Here's Jay Leno! 1896 01:22:54,447 --> 01:22:56,232 And then Leno-- 1897 01:22:56,319 --> 01:22:57,885 Ladies and gentlemen! 1898 01:22:57,973 --> 01:23:00,845 ♪ Everybody say scream ♪ 1899 01:23:00,932 --> 01:23:04,892 That was tremendous for the culture. 1900 01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:06,982 That was the beginnings 1901 01:23:07,069 --> 01:23:09,810 of putting hip-hop in Middle America. 1902 01:23:11,638 --> 01:23:15,077 Being in New York, reconnecting with Dres, 1903 01:23:15,164 --> 01:23:17,340 filming this documentary-- 1904 01:23:17,427 --> 01:23:20,560 it's kind of, like, intense for me. 1905 01:23:20,647 --> 01:23:22,562 You know, just in my own head, 1906 01:23:22,649 --> 01:23:24,260 it's kind of "Twilight Zone"-ish. 1907 01:23:24,347 --> 01:23:26,044 When we lived here, like, nobody 1908 01:23:26,131 --> 01:23:28,481 really knew we lived here. 1909 01:23:28,568 --> 01:23:32,659 And the engine of my mind starting up, 1910 01:23:32,746 --> 01:23:34,226 putting everything together, 1911 01:23:34,313 --> 01:23:39,144 but, you know, I'm just looking for inspiration. 1912 01:23:39,231 --> 01:23:41,625 If the right thing comes about, 1913 01:23:41,712 --> 01:23:44,106 you never know what's going to happen. 1914 01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:51,287 Mista Lawnge, Dres, Black Sheep, slam now. 1915 01:23:51,374 --> 01:23:53,245 My man. - Good to see you. 1916 01:23:53,332 --> 01:23:54,681 Oh, my gosh. 1917 01:23:54,768 --> 01:23:56,553 I ain't seen you in forever, man. 1918 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,598 What's up with you? You got a beard on me now. 1919 01:24:00,122 --> 01:24:02,211 Mista Lawnge got a beard on me, D. 1920 01:24:02,298 --> 01:24:05,083 It's painted. 1921 01:24:05,170 --> 01:24:06,171 Ah, shit. 1922 01:24:06,258 --> 01:24:07,564 This is my code D right here, man. 1923 01:24:07,651 --> 01:24:09,435 - No doubt, no doubt. - That's what's up. 1924 01:24:09,522 --> 01:24:11,307 So we're putting the band back together. 1925 01:24:11,394 --> 01:24:13,439 Very, very possible, man. That's what we looking at, man. 1926 01:24:13,526 --> 01:24:15,659 We going to be like-- - I still got it. 1927 01:24:17,443 --> 01:24:19,445 You know what I'm saying? Yo, man. 1928 01:24:19,532 --> 01:24:20,620 For real, for real. 1929 01:24:20,707 --> 01:24:22,796 How are you feeling about-- 1930 01:24:22,883 --> 01:24:24,189 You got something written, though? 1931 01:24:24,276 --> 01:24:25,625 Shit. I could play with that one. 1932 01:24:27,801 --> 01:24:32,458 This is Dilla, you know, from the DnD project. 1933 01:24:32,545 --> 01:24:34,895 You want to jump in? You want me to set it? 1934 01:24:34,982 --> 01:24:36,636 It don't matter to me. 1935 01:24:36,723 --> 01:24:38,290 Yeah, I'll jump in, while shit is in my head. 1936 01:24:38,377 --> 01:24:39,639 All right. 1937 01:24:42,816 --> 01:24:44,557 While I was on the plane, I was in my own head 1938 01:24:44,644 --> 01:24:47,125 about what we were going to be doing. 1939 01:24:47,212 --> 01:24:51,521 I really had no expectations. 1940 01:24:55,090 --> 01:24:58,005 Concepts start flying from what I see, 1941 01:24:58,093 --> 01:25:00,007 you know, regular life. 1942 01:25:00,095 --> 01:25:03,185 The way things happen... 1943 01:25:03,272 --> 01:25:05,491 people. 1944 01:25:05,578 --> 01:25:07,537 And I'll automatically go into writing. 1945 01:25:07,624 --> 01:25:10,279 Mista Lawnge verse--we haven't heard in a minute. 1946 01:25:10,366 --> 01:25:11,976 That's what's up. 1947 01:25:12,063 --> 01:25:14,109 Mista Lawnge from Black Sheep... 1948 01:25:14,196 --> 01:25:15,762 I'm gonna just run through it a couple of times 1949 01:25:15,849 --> 01:25:17,764 until I learn this shit. 1950 01:25:17,851 --> 01:25:19,288 Y'all need the beat? 1951 01:25:19,375 --> 01:25:21,551 Nah, this for the DnD. This is a Dilla shit. 1952 01:25:21,638 --> 01:25:23,292 Oh, oh, Dilla drop. Oh, okay. That's right. 1953 01:25:23,379 --> 01:25:25,076 Get him on this project, you know? 1954 01:25:25,163 --> 01:25:26,686 - Yeah, yeah. - That'd be crazy. 1955 01:25:26,773 --> 01:25:28,340 Let's do it again. 1956 01:25:28,427 --> 01:25:31,213 We got the energy. - Mm-hmm. 1957 01:25:31,300 --> 01:25:33,606 I mean, with the wild success of Black Sheep, 1958 01:25:33,693 --> 01:25:35,217 I still look back. 1959 01:25:35,304 --> 01:25:37,523 That wasn't the best part. 1960 01:25:37,610 --> 01:25:39,656 The best part was that growing-- 1961 01:25:39,743 --> 01:25:43,399 you know, just brothers making music, 1962 01:25:43,486 --> 01:25:45,227 doing what we love. 1963 01:25:45,314 --> 01:25:48,969 We navigated, and we found our way to here, man. 1964 01:25:49,056 --> 01:25:51,407 I'm proud of us for that. 1965 01:25:51,494 --> 01:25:54,061 We learned from our mistakes. 1966 01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:56,716 Continuation. - You know what I'm saying? 1967 01:25:56,803 --> 01:25:59,719 What it could've been, what it should've been. 1968 01:25:59,806 --> 01:26:02,809 Everything happens for a reason. 1969 01:26:02,896 --> 01:26:04,463 Let's do it. 1970 01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:07,684 So let's do some shit together. 1971 01:26:07,771 --> 01:26:10,513 ♪ Yo, Mista Lawnge is the K-E-Y ♪ 1972 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,341 ♪ And some of y'all are going to say he lie ♪ 1973 01:26:12,428 --> 01:26:14,778 ♪ So, listen, maybe I need to spit that truth ♪ 1974 01:26:14,865 --> 01:26:16,388 ♪ When I hit that booth ♪ 1975 01:26:16,475 --> 01:26:18,085 ♪ Then y'all sleeping-ass skeptics ♪ 1976 01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:19,565 ♪ Could get that proof ♪ 1977 01:26:19,652 --> 01:26:21,828 ♪ It's undeniable, me, I'm so reliable ♪ 1978 01:26:21,915 --> 01:26:24,962 ♪ But a lot of rappers' success is really unjustifiable... ♪ 1979 01:26:29,749 --> 01:26:31,534 Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, 1980 01:26:31,621 --> 01:26:33,971 we're approaching our next station stop. 1981 01:26:36,278 --> 01:26:38,410 Hey, Dres. Ma Dukes here. 1982 01:26:38,497 --> 01:26:39,933 What up, doe? 1983 01:26:40,020 --> 01:26:41,935 I thought I need to call you. 1984 01:26:42,022 --> 01:26:46,375 After all the rhetoric and misconceptions about things, 1985 01:26:46,462 --> 01:26:48,594 I really think we should get together 1986 01:26:48,681 --> 01:26:50,944 and, you know like, have a chat, 1987 01:26:51,031 --> 01:26:53,904 kind of explain to each other what the heck's going on, 1988 01:26:53,991 --> 01:26:57,037 you know, sit down-- you, me, and Toney, 1989 01:26:57,124 --> 01:26:59,388 if that's okay with you. 1990 01:26:59,475 --> 01:27:00,476 I don't know what your schedule is, 1991 01:27:00,563 --> 01:27:04,958 but we'll be in D.C. Wednesday. 1992 01:27:05,045 --> 01:27:07,744 So try to hit me back. 1993 01:27:07,831 --> 01:27:11,443 If I have to extend it a day, I will, but let me know, okay? 1994 01:27:11,530 --> 01:27:14,925 Reach me back at 313 number or either of the 323s. 1995 01:27:15,012 --> 01:27:16,405 Both of them I'll have on. 1996 01:27:16,492 --> 01:27:17,797 One love. 1997 01:27:20,278 --> 01:27:21,758 Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, 1998 01:27:21,845 --> 01:27:23,977 we are approaching our final destination, 1999 01:27:24,064 --> 01:27:26,284 Washington, D.C., station. 2000 01:27:26,371 --> 01:27:27,981 At this time, we ask you... 2001 01:27:28,068 --> 01:27:30,506 I haven't seen Ma since we were in Puerto Rico. 2002 01:27:30,593 --> 01:27:32,595 As far as this project itself, you know, 2003 01:27:32,682 --> 01:27:35,293 I've had to deal with a lot of doubt. 2004 01:27:35,380 --> 01:27:38,601 Washington, DC, final station. 2005 01:27:38,688 --> 01:27:40,342 We're going through a cloudy situation. 2006 01:27:40,429 --> 01:27:41,691 You know what I'm saying? 2007 01:27:41,778 --> 01:27:43,867 And it's not for me to move on and just think 2008 01:27:43,954 --> 01:27:45,521 that it's going to be okay. 2009 01:27:45,608 --> 01:27:47,392 That's not how it's going to work. 2010 01:27:49,394 --> 01:27:50,613 So whatever is in question, 2011 01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:53,529 I'd like to address now face-to-face 2012 01:27:53,616 --> 01:27:56,488 so that there isn't any misunderstandings. 2013 01:27:59,317 --> 01:28:00,840 What up? 2014 01:28:03,147 --> 01:28:04,496 How are you? 2015 01:28:04,583 --> 01:28:05,497 - Good to see you, man. - No doubt. 2016 01:28:05,584 --> 01:28:07,020 No doubt. - Good to see you, too. 2017 01:28:07,107 --> 01:28:08,413 No doubt, no doubt. Hey, Ma. 2018 01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:09,327 - What up, doe? - Ah, here you go. 2019 01:28:09,414 --> 01:28:11,111 This is for you. - Oh, my God. 2020 01:28:11,198 --> 01:28:12,156 Thank you. - And it's good to see you. 2021 01:28:12,243 --> 01:28:13,679 Good to see you, too. 2022 01:28:13,766 --> 01:28:16,334 Get all that baggage off your back and enjoy. 2023 01:28:16,421 --> 01:28:17,596 It's so good to see you. That's what's up. 2024 01:28:17,683 --> 01:28:19,424 Thank you. You know I like gifts. 2025 01:28:19,511 --> 01:28:20,730 - It's been too long. - Yes. 2026 01:28:20,817 --> 01:28:22,253 - Have a seat right here? - All right. 2027 01:28:22,340 --> 01:28:23,646 What's up now? How y'all doing? 2028 01:28:23,733 --> 01:28:25,735 Pretty good. It's been a good day. 2029 01:28:25,822 --> 01:28:27,127 Weather is not bad. - Yeah, right? 2030 01:28:27,214 --> 01:28:28,564 Right? - Yeah. 2031 01:28:28,651 --> 01:28:30,479 It turned out pretty decent out there. 2032 01:28:30,566 --> 01:28:32,481 It was a little overcast when I left New York, 2033 01:28:32,568 --> 01:28:33,612 but it's nice out here. - Oh, yes. 2034 01:28:33,699 --> 01:28:35,048 Yeah, it's been quite the walk. 2035 01:28:35,135 --> 01:28:37,050 It's been quite the walk. 2036 01:28:37,137 --> 01:28:38,748 Yeah. Yeah, we're here, though. 2037 01:28:38,835 --> 01:28:40,793 - Yes. - Yeah, you know? 2038 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,710 I really wanted to say that, you know, like, this... 2039 01:28:44,797 --> 01:28:47,670 Like, I just really trusted who we were. 2040 01:28:47,757 --> 01:28:49,541 Like, you know, like, what happened? 2041 01:28:49,628 --> 01:28:51,021 Like, what-- 2042 01:28:51,108 --> 01:28:53,719 There are numerous people doing Dilla music-- 2043 01:28:53,806 --> 01:28:58,550 not permitted, just willy-nilly doing whatever. 2044 01:28:58,637 --> 01:29:00,683 It's a known fact that he's one of the most 2045 01:29:00,770 --> 01:29:03,294 bootlegged artists ever. 2046 01:29:03,381 --> 01:29:06,079 And... 2047 01:29:06,166 --> 01:29:11,128 as far as music, for this project... 2048 01:29:11,215 --> 01:29:13,957 I'm saying it from me to the ears of those that will listen 2049 01:29:14,044 --> 01:29:16,046 with my own face and mouth. 2050 01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:18,004 This was something that I've been very excited about. 2051 01:29:18,091 --> 01:29:20,006 Thank you. 2052 01:29:20,093 --> 01:29:23,183 This article has brought a lot of attention 2053 01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:25,229 to a lot of people. 2054 01:29:25,316 --> 01:29:27,362 - I know who I'm talking to. - Mm-hmm. 2055 01:29:27,449 --> 01:29:29,059 - And I know what I'm hearing. - Yeah. 2056 01:29:29,146 --> 01:29:30,190 These are two different things. 2057 01:29:30,277 --> 01:29:31,757 Like, what happened? 2058 01:29:31,844 --> 01:29:34,325 This doesn't even sound remotely like-- 2059 01:29:34,412 --> 01:29:36,283 you know what I'm saying-- like us. 2060 01:29:36,371 --> 01:29:39,156 That was a messy interview. 2061 01:29:39,243 --> 01:29:40,592 That wasn't my quote. 2062 01:29:40,679 --> 01:29:42,377 I was confused. - Like, it's almost-- 2063 01:29:42,464 --> 01:29:44,291 - So I just don't know. - Yeah, like, why-- 2064 01:29:44,379 --> 01:29:46,511 why even write this interview? 2065 01:29:46,598 --> 01:29:49,732 You just was unsure if you wanted to have this happen? 2066 01:29:49,819 --> 01:29:51,386 No. 2067 01:29:51,473 --> 01:29:52,909 Toney, did you--when you came to kitchen, 2068 01:29:52,996 --> 01:29:54,911 you said, did you see this? 2069 01:29:54,998 --> 01:29:58,001 I couldn't believe that "Rolling Stone" article, 2070 01:29:58,088 --> 01:30:02,484 using those particular words, misquoting my wife. 2071 01:30:02,571 --> 01:30:04,834 It's like, oh, my God, yo. 2072 01:30:04,921 --> 01:30:06,401 How? - I don't know. 2073 01:30:06,488 --> 01:30:07,663 How? 2074 01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:10,187 That's when I knew for a fact that-- 2075 01:30:10,274 --> 01:30:12,494 - Something was very wrong. - Something was very wrong. 2076 01:30:12,581 --> 01:30:14,147 Even some of the wording in it was kind of, like-- 2077 01:30:14,234 --> 01:30:15,845 It was, like, crazy. 2078 01:30:15,932 --> 01:30:17,063 Oh, right, right, right, right. 2079 01:30:17,150 --> 01:30:19,805 And it didn't make sense, and it was too much 2080 01:30:19,892 --> 01:30:22,373 that I didn't know about that was being said. 2081 01:30:22,460 --> 01:30:25,289 I endorsed this project in the beginning. 2082 01:30:25,376 --> 01:30:27,334 I've been so excited about it. 2083 01:30:27,422 --> 01:30:31,687 And the sheer fact that the idea happened in my own home 2084 01:30:31,774 --> 01:30:34,603 in Puerto Rico, okay, three years ago, 2085 01:30:34,690 --> 01:30:36,169 so they don't have to worry about-- 2086 01:30:36,256 --> 01:30:37,780 Nobody has to put an article up. 2087 01:30:37,867 --> 01:30:40,478 Yo, we here. This is what's important. 2088 01:30:40,565 --> 01:30:41,871 You know, we withstood the storm. 2089 01:30:41,958 --> 01:30:43,133 Right. 2090 01:30:43,220 --> 01:30:44,656 And we didn't know it was coming. 2091 01:30:44,743 --> 01:30:46,223 - Right, right. Real talk. - We go, oh, you know. 2092 01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:47,442 - On so many fronts. - And that's life. 2093 01:30:47,529 --> 01:30:49,139 Yeah. 2094 01:30:49,226 --> 01:30:51,228 That's the real thing, and that's what makes us strong. 2095 01:30:51,315 --> 01:30:52,795 And you want to know, like, you know, 2096 01:30:52,882 --> 01:30:54,361 that your relationships can survive that. 2097 01:30:54,449 --> 01:30:56,189 And that's what it is. 2098 01:30:56,276 --> 01:30:57,887 Let's rise together. - Yeah, no doubt. 2099 01:30:57,974 --> 01:31:01,107 - That's what it is. - Thank you, sincerely. 2100 01:31:01,194 --> 01:31:03,109 You still and always did have my blessing. 2101 01:31:03,196 --> 01:31:05,155 Thank you. 2102 01:31:05,242 --> 01:31:06,983 That was real. 2103 01:31:07,070 --> 01:31:08,201 It is real. 2104 01:31:11,770 --> 01:31:13,380 Anytime I can get a chance to see Ma, 2105 01:31:13,468 --> 01:31:16,949 it's, like, this just really parental type of feeling 2106 01:31:17,036 --> 01:31:18,995 that I get in her presence. 2107 01:31:19,082 --> 01:31:22,389 I think about the very humble beginnings of us 2108 01:31:22,477 --> 01:31:26,132 just meeting by chance 2109 01:31:26,219 --> 01:31:28,221 and all that it's become, 2110 01:31:28,308 --> 01:31:30,572 you know, from the pandemic, 2111 01:31:30,659 --> 01:31:33,270 to the trials and tribulations of creation, 2112 01:31:33,357 --> 01:31:37,361 to, you know, real life taking place in the interim. 2113 01:31:37,448 --> 01:31:40,277 It's been a learning experience within itself. 2114 01:31:40,364 --> 01:31:43,323 More than anything, I think it's invigorated in me 2115 01:31:43,410 --> 01:31:44,716 to definitely make sure that 2116 01:31:44,803 --> 01:31:47,893 my estate and my affairs are situated. 2117 01:31:47,980 --> 01:31:51,027 Publishing and the music that I have done 2118 01:31:51,114 --> 01:31:52,507 are going to my children 2119 01:31:52,594 --> 01:31:56,423 to help them move forward in life. 2120 01:31:56,511 --> 01:32:00,297 It also put the desire in me to leave something, you know, 2121 01:32:00,384 --> 01:32:02,604 so I'm very grateful for that. 2122 01:32:06,172 --> 01:32:09,828 What the world is seeing you do for your son 2123 01:32:09,915 --> 01:32:12,048 says it all, as far as who you are 2124 01:32:12,135 --> 01:32:14,093 and the mother that you are to this world. 2125 01:32:14,180 --> 01:32:15,921 - Wow. Thank you for that. - Like, for real, for real. 2126 01:32:16,008 --> 01:32:17,749 Dilla was my whole world. 2127 01:32:17,836 --> 01:32:21,100 Some parents don't even know that their children were 2128 01:32:21,187 --> 01:32:23,450 talented or creative. - Right. 2129 01:32:23,538 --> 01:32:24,713 But you got to nourish that talent 2130 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,802 to make the world better for young people. 2131 01:32:26,889 --> 01:32:27,759 Especially VH1 Save The Music. 2132 01:32:27,846 --> 01:32:29,021 - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? 2133 01:32:29,108 --> 01:32:30,066 Oh, that's what's up. 2134 01:32:30,153 --> 01:32:32,155 Yeah, that's--that's my baby. 2135 01:32:32,242 --> 01:32:33,591 I mean, that's why-- how many schools we are now? 2136 01:32:33,678 --> 01:32:36,289 Oh, my God. We have 40 schools in. 2137 01:32:36,376 --> 01:32:37,682 That's what's up. 2138 01:32:37,769 --> 01:32:39,554 And just for your own benefit, 2139 01:32:39,641 --> 01:32:43,819 visit any one of the J Dilla Tech Grant schools 2140 01:32:43,906 --> 01:32:47,387 to see that growth is happening, 2141 01:32:47,474 --> 01:32:48,954 and children have more resources. 2142 01:32:49,041 --> 01:32:53,045 And it keeps introducing who he is to them. 2143 01:32:53,132 --> 01:32:55,047 - Yes, it does. - You know what I'm saying? 2144 01:32:55,134 --> 01:32:56,745 Like, they're gonna grow up knowing, like you know, 2145 01:32:56,832 --> 01:32:58,790 Dilla, that means something. 2146 01:32:58,877 --> 01:33:01,793 That name means something. That name helped me. 2147 01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,055 - How are you? - I'm good. How are you? 2148 01:33:03,142 --> 01:33:04,709 Hello. 2149 01:33:04,796 --> 01:33:07,016 - Can you hold on? - Sure. 2150 01:33:07,103 --> 01:33:10,019 - Hey, yo, yo, yo, guys, guys. 2151 01:33:10,106 --> 01:33:12,499 Turn off the speaker and let's get something recording. 2152 01:33:12,587 --> 01:33:14,197 Let's not vibe right now, okay? 2153 01:33:14,284 --> 01:33:17,330 So Za's gonna record, bring up a--bring up a thing. 2154 01:33:17,417 --> 01:33:20,159 Save The Music's mission is helping students, 2155 01:33:20,246 --> 01:33:22,509 schools, and communities reach their full potential 2156 01:33:22,597 --> 01:33:24,381 through making music. 2157 01:33:24,468 --> 01:33:27,253 One of the things I saw in my first years here was 2158 01:33:27,340 --> 01:33:31,693 there was incredible demand from the student side 2159 01:33:31,780 --> 01:33:36,001 for hip hop, electronic music, beat-making-- 2160 01:33:36,088 --> 01:33:37,524 you know, the music that the students are 2161 01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:38,961 actually listening to. 2162 01:33:39,048 --> 01:33:40,353 Yeah! 2163 01:33:41,703 --> 01:33:43,182 You want to record that in? 2164 01:33:43,269 --> 01:33:44,575 We've got to name it something other than 2165 01:33:44,662 --> 01:33:45,663 the Music Tech Grant. 2166 01:33:45,750 --> 01:33:47,709 We put our heads together. 2167 01:33:47,796 --> 01:33:50,929 There's really only one person who could possibly be 2168 01:33:51,016 --> 01:33:55,238 the patron saint for this program, and that's J Dilla. 2169 01:33:55,325 --> 01:33:57,109 Does anybody else wanna take a stab at a different beat? 2170 01:33:57,196 --> 01:33:58,371 Yes. 2171 01:33:58,458 --> 01:34:00,243 The Dilla Tech Program, 2172 01:34:00,330 --> 01:34:02,549 we see it's incredibly popular with music students, 2173 01:34:02,637 --> 01:34:04,856 and then it also pulls in 2174 01:34:04,943 --> 01:34:07,250 a whole other population of students 2175 01:34:07,337 --> 01:34:11,950 who never considered music through the traditional paths. 2176 01:34:12,037 --> 01:34:13,909 I'm always amazed 2177 01:34:13,996 --> 01:34:15,998 when you take young people seriously 2178 01:34:16,085 --> 01:34:18,957 and their creativity seriously what they come back with. 2179 01:34:19,044 --> 01:34:21,003 So, let's meet everybody. Y'all got to introduce me. 2180 01:34:21,090 --> 01:34:23,092 Absolutely. This is Elijah right there, 2181 01:34:23,179 --> 01:34:25,007 definitely one of our producers-in-making over here. 2182 01:34:25,094 --> 01:34:27,183 - How are you? - Good, man. How you feeling? 2183 01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:28,575 These are some of the guys over here. 2184 01:34:28,663 --> 01:34:29,968 They're working right now. 2185 01:34:30,055 --> 01:34:31,709 Who's in the booth? 2186 01:34:31,796 --> 01:34:33,276 - Can you engineer? - No, he engineer my music. 2187 01:34:33,363 --> 01:34:36,279 Oh, yeah? Yeah? And all of y'all are artists? 2188 01:34:36,366 --> 01:34:37,889 All of y'all are engineers? All of y'all producers? 2189 01:34:37,976 --> 01:34:38,847 - No, I'm an artist. - I'm an artist. 2190 01:34:38,934 --> 01:34:40,370 - Artist, artist. - I'm a ballplayer, too. 2191 01:34:40,457 --> 01:34:41,893 - Ballplayer, too? - Yeah, he an artist, though. 2192 01:34:41,980 --> 01:34:43,765 All right. What's your name, champ? 2193 01:34:43,852 --> 01:34:45,201 - Name's Kenny. - Kenny? 2194 01:34:45,288 --> 01:34:46,637 - I'ma come up. - Kenny, you wanna come up? 2195 01:34:46,724 --> 01:34:48,204 - Watch this. - I like it. 2196 01:34:48,291 --> 01:34:50,249 Give it a couple years, man. Not even a couple years. 2197 01:34:50,336 --> 01:34:51,860 Just give it a couple months. I'ma blow up. 2198 01:34:51,947 --> 01:34:53,296 I promise y'all that. You heard? 2199 01:34:53,383 --> 01:34:54,776 You know what? I like the attitude. 2200 01:34:54,863 --> 01:34:56,168 That's the attitude you supposed to have. 2201 01:34:56,255 --> 01:34:58,083 You know what I'm saying? That's what's up. 2202 01:34:58,170 --> 01:35:00,129 So I'm saying-- so can we hear something? 2203 01:35:00,216 --> 01:35:01,565 Which one you want? 2204 01:35:01,652 --> 01:35:04,742 I want the one that you think is the dopest. 2205 01:35:04,829 --> 01:35:06,483 Like, when you play something for somebody, 2206 01:35:06,570 --> 01:35:08,006 you give them your best shot. 2207 01:35:08,093 --> 01:35:09,878 You don't give them something you working on. 2208 01:35:09,965 --> 01:35:12,054 ♪ I'ma make it when I'm 18 ♪ 2209 01:35:12,141 --> 01:35:13,664 ♪ I'ma make it when I'm 18 ♪ 2210 01:35:13,751 --> 01:35:15,448 ♪ Nigga, I was hoping ♪ 2211 01:35:15,535 --> 01:35:17,320 ♪ Living in the gutter, got a single mother ♪ 2212 01:35:17,407 --> 01:35:19,191 ♪ Nigga, I was broken ♪ 2213 01:35:19,278 --> 01:35:20,802 ♪ Coming from the struggle, niggas had to hustle ♪ 2214 01:35:20,889 --> 01:35:22,673 ♪ Niggas didn't notice ♪ 2215 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,414 ♪ Coming from the struggle, niggas had to hustle ♪ 2216 01:35:24,501 --> 01:35:25,981 ♪ Coming from that soul search ♪ 2217 01:35:26,068 --> 01:35:27,634 ♪ Coming from that soul search ♪ 2218 01:35:27,722 --> 01:35:29,506 ♪ Nigga, I was hoping ♪ 2219 01:35:29,593 --> 01:35:30,725 ♪ Living in the gutter, got a single mother ♪ 2220 01:35:30,812 --> 01:35:32,727 ♪ Nigga, I was broken ♪ 2221 01:35:32,814 --> 01:35:36,165 Who did the track? You did the track? 2222 01:35:36,252 --> 01:35:40,125 What I hear, what I hear in that is 2223 01:35:40,212 --> 01:35:42,824 who you was, you know what I'm saying? 2224 01:35:42,911 --> 01:35:44,390 - Yeah. - More than anything. 2225 01:35:44,477 --> 01:35:46,915 It's basically-- it's just my pain, you feel me? 2226 01:35:47,002 --> 01:35:50,005 And I just put it in the song, so I have it. 2227 01:35:50,092 --> 01:35:51,484 I feel like-- I don't know, man. 2228 01:35:51,571 --> 01:35:54,444 We've all looked at life like-- 2229 01:35:54,531 --> 01:35:56,838 like this ain't right, this ain't fair. 2230 01:35:56,925 --> 01:35:59,797 And--and how do I get out of here? 2231 01:35:59,884 --> 01:36:01,712 How do I get out of this position? 2232 01:36:01,799 --> 01:36:06,151 I feel hopeless, right? 2233 01:36:06,238 --> 01:36:09,764 But you're saying, "I was hopeless." 2234 01:36:09,851 --> 01:36:11,026 You're not saying "I am hopeless." 2235 01:36:11,113 --> 01:36:12,462 I'm just telling you what I'm hearing 2236 01:36:12,549 --> 01:36:14,812 and what I see in my head. I'm like, wow, this is strong. 2237 01:36:14,899 --> 01:36:16,335 This is powerful. That's a powerful piece. 2238 01:36:16,422 --> 01:36:18,860 That's a dope--that's a dope rhyme, a dope hook. 2239 01:36:18,947 --> 01:36:19,948 - I appreciate that. - You know what I'm saying? 2240 01:36:20,035 --> 01:36:21,297 Want to hear some more songs? 2241 01:36:21,384 --> 01:36:24,474 Yeah, yeah. I'm here to hang out with y'all, man. 2242 01:36:24,561 --> 01:36:26,606 But I'm only trying to hear-- pardon my French-- 2243 01:36:26,693 --> 01:36:27,912 I'm only trying to hear dope shit. 2244 01:36:27,999 --> 01:36:30,262 I'm not into--I'm not into-- 2245 01:36:30,349 --> 01:36:32,525 - You let me know if it's not. - All right? 2246 01:36:32,612 --> 01:36:33,962 I'ma let y'all know. I'm telling you. 2247 01:36:34,049 --> 01:36:35,311 All right, cool. I'ma let you know. 2248 01:36:35,398 --> 01:36:37,008 A'ight, who's next? 2249 01:36:39,532 --> 01:36:40,403 Talk to me. 2250 01:36:40,490 --> 01:36:41,839 This you? 2251 01:36:44,624 --> 01:36:47,540 ♪ Together forever don't last ♪ 2252 01:36:47,627 --> 01:36:50,587 ♪ I need some energy ♪ 2253 01:36:50,674 --> 01:36:53,633 ♪ I'm running but I ain't that fast ♪ 2254 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,375 "I'm running but I ain't that fast," whoo! 2255 01:36:56,462 --> 01:36:58,943 ♪ 'Cause everybody's living it ♪ 2256 01:36:59,030 --> 01:37:01,163 ♪ What's love if it ain't guaranteed? ♪ 2257 01:37:01,250 --> 01:37:03,034 ♪ Don't need no games, no names ♪ 2258 01:37:03,121 --> 01:37:05,863 ♪ Don't need no time wasted ♪ 2259 01:37:05,950 --> 01:37:08,692 ♪ You slept on me, so I vacated ♪ 2260 01:37:08,779 --> 01:37:10,346 ♪ I got no patience ♪ 2261 01:37:10,433 --> 01:37:11,869 ♪ If I get my heart broke again ♪ 2262 01:37:11,956 --> 01:37:14,306 ♪ That's it, I ain't doing it ♪ 2263 01:37:14,393 --> 01:37:19,485 ♪ What's love if it ain't guaranteed ♪ 2264 01:37:24,012 --> 01:37:25,622 Yo, pause that, pause that, pause that. 2265 01:37:25,709 --> 01:37:27,102 That's fucking amazing. 2266 01:37:27,189 --> 01:37:28,059 - Thank you. - You did that. 2267 01:37:28,146 --> 01:37:30,801 I really-- I really appreciate it. 2268 01:37:30,888 --> 01:37:31,976 Now, now, hold up, now. 2269 01:37:32,063 --> 01:37:32,716 Real quick, before we move forward-- 2270 01:37:32,803 --> 01:37:34,587 before we move forward-- 2271 01:37:34,674 --> 01:37:35,937 students: ♪ I got no energy ♪ - A'ight? Yo. 2272 01:37:38,809 --> 01:37:40,593 Now, real quick, real quick, real quick, 2273 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,030 why is this the best song? 2274 01:37:42,117 --> 01:37:44,206 She put so much emotion into it. 2275 01:37:44,293 --> 01:37:45,468 she not worried about 2276 01:37:45,555 --> 01:37:47,035 what people doing today. - Yeah. 2277 01:37:47,122 --> 01:37:48,819 She got the most originality I've ever heard. 2278 01:37:48,906 --> 01:37:50,125 The track that she chose 2279 01:37:50,212 --> 01:37:52,170 differentiated her from everyone here. 2280 01:37:52,257 --> 01:37:55,130 She was comfortable in her authenticity. 2281 01:37:55,217 --> 01:37:57,045 She was comfortable in who she was. 2282 01:37:57,132 --> 01:37:58,829 And I'm trying to get somewhere, 2283 01:37:58,916 --> 01:38:00,700 but I'm not that fast--whoo! 2284 01:38:00,787 --> 01:38:02,050 Right? That is hard. 2285 01:38:02,137 --> 01:38:05,792 Whoo, that's hard. That's hard. 2286 01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,186 You keep writing. Yo, you nailed that. 2287 01:38:08,273 --> 01:38:09,535 You nailed that. 2288 01:38:09,622 --> 01:38:10,580 I want to go next. 2289 01:38:10,667 --> 01:38:11,842 Oh, you gon' go next? 2290 01:38:11,929 --> 01:38:13,061 That's the--that's the one. 2291 01:38:13,148 --> 01:38:14,236 I'ma show you what I wrote. 2292 01:38:14,323 --> 01:38:16,542 Yeah? You said that like you dead nice. 2293 01:38:16,629 --> 01:38:17,804 OK, here we go. 2294 01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:26,291 You can hear me now? 2295 01:38:29,729 --> 01:38:33,777 A lot of times, artists and actors and entertainers 2296 01:38:33,864 --> 01:38:36,867 would have you believe that it's magic, but it's not. 2297 01:38:36,954 --> 01:38:39,739 It's the result of efforts. 2298 01:38:39,826 --> 01:38:44,657 Today I have the wherewithal to speak, to help, to share. 2299 01:38:45,963 --> 01:38:47,356 Something that's already there. 2300 01:38:47,443 --> 01:38:50,098 Sometimes just giving a compliment 2301 01:38:50,185 --> 01:38:51,926 or a constructive criticism 2302 01:38:52,013 --> 01:38:53,753 is exactly what's needed. 2303 01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,538 You play that over there, man. 2304 01:38:55,625 --> 01:38:57,670 You and Iyanna are the Black Sheep of your class. 2305 01:38:57,757 --> 01:38:59,324 We're all the product of 2306 01:38:59,411 --> 01:39:02,937 some really horrific events, as a community. 2307 01:39:03,024 --> 01:39:05,983 It's important that we start bridging some of the gaps 2308 01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:07,506 between the generations. 2309 01:39:07,593 --> 01:39:08,638 I expect big things from y'all. 2310 01:39:08,725 --> 01:39:10,422 Oh, my pleasure. 2311 01:39:10,509 --> 01:39:14,731 They're the seeds to beautiful flowers in the future. 2312 01:39:15,906 --> 01:39:18,343 - Okay. 2313 01:39:21,825 --> 01:39:23,435 Good song, brother. Good song. 2314 01:39:27,787 --> 01:39:30,094 Yes, yes, yes, citizens. 2315 01:39:30,181 --> 01:39:32,401 It's a new year. 2316 01:39:32,488 --> 01:39:34,533 They say patience is a virtue. If that's the truth, 2317 01:39:34,620 --> 01:39:35,882 this is the most virtuous person 2318 01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:37,449 you gon' see on the mic today, 2319 01:39:37,536 --> 01:39:39,321 the next big thing in hip hop, 2320 01:39:39,408 --> 01:39:41,105 the one and only Lola Brooke is here. 2321 01:39:41,192 --> 01:39:43,890 Give her a big round of applause. 2322 01:39:43,978 --> 01:39:46,589 Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn! 2323 01:39:46,676 --> 01:39:49,113 Damn, man. I was nervous when I saw you in the lobby. 2324 01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,159 - For real? - Yeah, man, honestly. 2325 01:39:51,246 --> 01:39:53,074 No, no! 2326 01:39:53,161 --> 01:39:57,078 My man Sav sent me Lola's new song called "Just Relax." 2327 01:39:57,165 --> 01:40:00,429 Immediately, after I listened to it, like, what? 2328 01:40:00,516 --> 01:40:02,997 How did she pick this sample? 2329 01:40:03,084 --> 01:40:04,607 "This or That" by Black Sheep, 2330 01:40:04,694 --> 01:40:06,348 shout-out to Mista Lawnge and Dres. 2331 01:40:06,435 --> 01:40:08,263 This was a huge hit in the '90s, 2332 01:40:08,350 --> 01:40:10,656 and then you're making it a huge hit in 2023. 2333 01:40:10,743 --> 01:40:13,268 This is "Just Relax." Phone lines are open. 2334 01:40:13,355 --> 01:40:15,792 Lola Brooke is here. 888-7423. 2335 01:40:15,879 --> 01:40:17,576 See, the 1,200s is full power, though. 2336 01:40:20,449 --> 01:40:23,365 Today we shooting my video, "Just Relax," you know. 2337 01:40:23,452 --> 01:40:25,671 I'm not relaxing, though, because I'm working. 2338 01:40:25,758 --> 01:40:27,325 All right, guys, last look. That's it. Last looks. 2339 01:40:27,412 --> 01:40:28,370 We're about to roll. - Last looks. 2340 01:40:28,457 --> 01:40:31,764 This is really a legendary sample 2341 01:40:31,851 --> 01:40:33,592 from the legendary song. 2342 01:40:33,679 --> 01:40:36,204 So I kinda was scared to touch it because 2343 01:40:36,291 --> 01:40:37,944 a lot of people would be like, oh-- 2344 01:40:38,032 --> 01:40:41,296 my mom would say, "girl, that right there, 2345 01:40:41,383 --> 01:40:43,602 when I was your age, we was outside." 2346 01:40:43,689 --> 01:40:46,214 And I'm like, oh, my God. - Roll camera. 2347 01:40:46,301 --> 01:40:47,258 And playback. 2348 01:40:47,345 --> 01:40:49,173 Yes, so good. 2349 01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,525 all: Girl! 2350 01:40:55,266 --> 01:40:57,573 ♪ Bitches wan' be this 'cause I was always that ♪ 2351 01:40:57,660 --> 01:40:59,488 ♪ Niggas say they rich? Let's keep it a stack ♪ 2352 01:40:59,575 --> 01:41:02,056 ♪ I ain't with the tic, I be moving tac ♪ 2353 01:41:02,143 --> 01:41:03,100 ♪ Bitches say they it ♪ 2354 01:41:03,187 --> 01:41:05,320 ♪ Man, bitch, just relax ♪ 2355 01:41:05,407 --> 01:41:06,625 - Big record for you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2356 01:41:06,712 --> 01:41:08,714 No doubt, no doubt. I feel good about it, too. 2357 01:41:08,801 --> 01:41:15,547 Like it's--I've had people try to use the record. 2358 01:41:15,634 --> 01:41:18,289 And like, people always ask me to kinda do something 2359 01:41:18,376 --> 01:41:21,292 with them with it and, I mean, like, mm-mm. 2360 01:41:21,379 --> 01:41:23,033 Like, nah. Like, you know, like, 2361 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,208 I would never mess with it 2362 01:41:24,295 --> 01:41:26,341 because it's always been right. 2363 01:41:26,428 --> 01:41:28,734 ♪ Man, bitch, just relax ♪ 2364 01:41:28,821 --> 01:41:31,476 But this is the only one that I've actually thought 2365 01:41:31,563 --> 01:41:34,479 had a chance of, you know, being successful 2366 01:41:34,566 --> 01:41:36,307 that I was like, okay, I fuck with that. 2367 01:41:36,394 --> 01:41:37,874 ♪ Taking pictures like bitches ♪ 2368 01:41:37,961 --> 01:41:40,529 - All right, that's what's up. - Got it. 2369 01:41:40,616 --> 01:41:41,965 Just want to say hello to you, lady. 2370 01:41:42,052 --> 01:41:44,489 - Oh, my God! - I'm so happy for you. 2371 01:41:44,576 --> 01:41:46,578 You over here doing tremendous things. 2372 01:41:46,665 --> 01:41:47,927 - Thank you for coming! - You're killing it. 2373 01:41:48,014 --> 01:41:49,233 - Oh, you like it? - I love it. 2374 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,713 I'm over there looking at you, going-- 2375 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,497 - As long as you love it. - I love it. I love it. 2376 01:41:52,584 --> 01:41:55,065 You are literally the only person that I feel, 2377 01:41:55,152 --> 01:41:57,198 like, did something with it. 2378 01:41:57,285 --> 01:41:59,069 I love what you're doing. - Really? 2379 01:41:59,156 --> 01:42:01,332 And that's no bullshit. I love it. 2380 01:42:01,419 --> 01:42:03,291 Oh, that's a good day for me, man, for real. 2381 01:42:03,378 --> 01:42:05,206 Man, you got a lot of good days ahead of you, lady. 2382 01:42:05,293 --> 01:42:06,511 - Oh, stone cold shit. - Keep doing what you're doing. 2383 01:42:06,598 --> 01:42:09,645 You know what I'm saying? 2384 01:42:09,732 --> 01:42:11,516 Dres is here at the video shoot. 2385 01:42:11,603 --> 01:42:14,824 This is really a legendary situation. 2386 01:42:14,911 --> 01:42:15,868 Yo, keep rocking out. 2387 01:42:15,955 --> 01:42:17,131 I'm here-- - Are you here? 2388 01:42:17,218 --> 01:42:18,697 Yeah, yeah, I ain't going nowhere. 2389 01:42:18,784 --> 01:42:20,351 I couldn't ask for anything better than 2390 01:42:20,438 --> 01:42:23,572 the support from Dres, for real, for real. 2391 01:42:23,659 --> 01:42:26,009 I'm right here. I'm right here. I'm coming. 2392 01:42:26,096 --> 01:42:26,966 All right, we're ready to reset. 2393 01:42:27,053 --> 01:42:28,968 Let's reset, reset, reset. 2394 01:42:30,622 --> 01:42:32,798 ♪ A pricey lil' thing, they be ducking the fee ♪ 2395 01:42:32,885 --> 01:42:35,149 ♪ Chasing after checks, they be running to me ♪ 2396 01:42:35,236 --> 01:42:37,151 ♪ Your man is the bro, we ain't fucking, sis, please ♪ 2397 01:42:37,238 --> 01:42:39,675 - Woah, woah! - Feels dope. 2398 01:42:39,762 --> 01:42:40,676 Dope energy. 2399 01:42:43,809 --> 01:42:45,333 That was hard. 2400 01:42:49,250 --> 01:42:51,121 Yeah. Every time it was action, 2401 01:42:51,208 --> 01:42:52,775 we was--we was--we was that. 2402 01:42:55,169 --> 01:42:56,909 One of--one of the things that we did 2403 01:42:56,996 --> 01:43:00,522 with "The Choice Is Yours" was we intentionally went down. 2404 01:43:00,609 --> 01:43:02,741 What you doing right now, going side to side, 2405 01:43:02,828 --> 01:43:05,048 pick a part of the record-- - I was just about to say that. 2406 01:43:05,135 --> 01:43:06,919 Pick the same part every time. 2407 01:43:07,006 --> 01:43:09,531 - This to then--got you. - A'ight? 2408 01:43:09,618 --> 01:43:11,489 I just was saying it to myself, like, 2409 01:43:11,576 --> 01:43:13,709 I gotta do the side-- - But you gotta-- 2410 01:43:13,796 --> 01:43:15,189 But pick the part. Pick the part, okay? 2411 01:43:15,276 --> 01:43:16,973 Pick the part in your head, 2412 01:43:17,060 --> 01:43:18,540 and keep it the same, all right? 2413 01:43:18,627 --> 01:43:19,541 I got you, I promise. Watch it. 2414 01:43:19,628 --> 01:43:21,238 No, no. OK, cool. 2415 01:43:21,325 --> 01:43:23,458 Yo, the energy is the same as 2416 01:43:23,545 --> 01:43:25,416 when I did mine-- - When you was doing it? 2417 01:43:25,503 --> 01:43:27,984 Except y'all are all girls. We was all boys. 2418 01:43:28,071 --> 01:43:30,378 Oh, all right. Well, we gon' eat y'all up. 2419 01:43:30,465 --> 01:43:32,989 You know I'm saying? That's what's up. 2420 01:43:33,076 --> 01:43:36,949 Word up. Y'all balancing it out. 2421 01:43:37,036 --> 01:43:40,779 ♪ Crazy 'bout mines, better know how to fight ♪ 2422 01:43:40,866 --> 01:43:41,911 I got left. 2423 01:43:41,998 --> 01:43:43,391 On my right. 2424 01:43:43,478 --> 01:43:44,740 To the left. 2425 01:43:44,827 --> 01:43:46,481 Right. 2426 01:43:46,568 --> 01:43:49,179 Left! ♪ Bitch, just relax ♪ 2427 01:43:49,266 --> 01:43:51,703 Cut. 2428 01:43:51,790 --> 01:43:53,444 - I'm Dres. Peace, man. - Nice to meet you. 2429 01:43:53,531 --> 01:43:53,966 - Nice to meet you, as well. - Nice to meet you. 2430 01:43:54,053 --> 01:43:55,707 So we're gonna do-- 2431 01:43:55,794 --> 01:43:56,839 we're gonna do a little close up right here, 2432 01:43:56,926 --> 01:43:58,101 and then we're gonna do a wide. 2433 01:43:58,188 --> 01:43:59,450 And I want to have you come in that one. 2434 01:43:59,537 --> 01:44:00,408 - Okay, sounds good. - So we're gonna do 2435 01:44:00,495 --> 01:44:01,365 a little quick movement on her 2436 01:44:01,452 --> 01:44:03,585 then let you guys vibe out. 2437 01:44:03,672 --> 01:44:05,456 Sounds cool. All right. 2438 01:44:24,954 --> 01:44:27,565 Being a artist, it's always a good feeling to know that 2439 01:44:27,652 --> 01:44:30,264 the ones that was here before you actually accept you, 2440 01:44:30,351 --> 01:44:32,353 and they're willing to guide you 2441 01:44:32,440 --> 01:44:34,790 and let you know what is there to be expected. 2442 01:44:34,877 --> 01:44:36,792 I'm so grateful. 2443 01:44:41,579 --> 01:44:46,280 Music allows you to carry something with you. 2444 01:44:46,367 --> 01:44:47,977 Like, how I play "The Choice Is Yours," 2445 01:44:48,064 --> 01:44:50,196 she's gonna wind up playing her song for years, 2446 01:44:50,284 --> 01:44:52,155 and years, and years. 2447 01:44:52,242 --> 01:44:53,983 And, at some point, someone's gonna 2448 01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:56,115 want to do something with her version, 2449 01:44:56,202 --> 01:44:58,770 if she's fortunate. I was fortunate. 2450 01:45:03,775 --> 01:45:06,561 When you think about what hip hop is, 2451 01:45:06,648 --> 01:45:10,521 which is this incredible genre and culture 2452 01:45:10,608 --> 01:45:13,655 that is inherently, by its very nature, 2453 01:45:13,742 --> 01:45:15,874 based on past music, 2454 01:45:15,961 --> 01:45:19,095 like, that is what it is at its core... 2455 01:45:19,182 --> 01:45:20,966 That's hard. That is hard! 2456 01:45:21,053 --> 01:45:24,492 whether it's Lola Brooke sampling "The Choice Is Yours" 2457 01:45:24,579 --> 01:45:27,843 or Dres rapping over Dilla, 2458 01:45:27,930 --> 01:45:30,498 it's like, music has a moment, and then it cycles around. 2459 01:45:30,585 --> 01:45:31,977 It's gone for a long time, and then it's like, 2460 01:45:32,064 --> 01:45:33,805 whoa, it's back. 2461 01:45:33,892 --> 01:45:37,374 It's sort of like dying and going back into the earth. 2462 01:45:37,461 --> 01:45:39,202 That's what immortality is, 2463 01:45:39,289 --> 01:45:42,814 when people are still talking about you when you're gone. 2464 01:45:42,901 --> 01:45:44,686 That's how we supposed to be. 2465 01:45:44,773 --> 01:45:46,514 Your spirit and your energy still lives on, 2466 01:45:46,601 --> 01:45:48,951 and that's what gives you life. 2467 01:45:49,038 --> 01:45:51,040 The torch--the torch is officially yours, all right? 2468 01:45:51,127 --> 01:45:52,607 Oh, thank you! 2469 01:45:52,694 --> 01:45:53,999 The torch is officially yours. 2470 01:45:54,086 --> 01:45:57,568 So many of our vets are always thinking about 2471 01:45:57,655 --> 01:46:00,876 the next album or the next tour 2472 01:46:00,963 --> 01:46:03,531 or when they're finally gonna get back to 2473 01:46:03,618 --> 01:46:06,447 where they were back when. 2474 01:46:06,534 --> 01:46:09,450 Is it really more about just this? 2475 01:46:09,537 --> 01:46:10,712 Keep doing it, you know what I'm saying? 2476 01:46:10,799 --> 01:46:12,322 - Thank you. - This is just the beginning. 2477 01:46:12,409 --> 01:46:13,976 Keep doing it. - Just the beginning. 2478 01:46:14,063 --> 01:46:16,761 It's the idea that your music can continue 2479 01:46:16,848 --> 01:46:18,154 to create more music... 2480 01:46:18,241 --> 01:46:20,765 When I say Lola, you say Brooke. 2481 01:46:20,852 --> 01:46:23,159 Entering sort of that ecosystem. 2482 01:46:23,246 --> 01:46:24,987 - Drive safe, bro. - Oh, you, too. 2483 01:46:25,074 --> 01:46:26,423 Love is love, man, for real. 2484 01:46:26,510 --> 01:46:27,598 Yo, I just wanna say thanks, Dres, man. 2485 01:46:27,685 --> 01:46:29,557 You know what I'm saying? We made this-- 2486 01:46:29,644 --> 01:46:31,689 we definitely made this happen. - Yeah, man. Yo, yo. 2487 01:46:31,776 --> 01:46:33,778 I told you when we was talking. 2488 01:46:33,865 --> 01:46:35,432 Everyone always wants to have that next moment. 2489 01:46:35,519 --> 01:46:37,347 Everyone wants to get their flowers. 2490 01:46:37,434 --> 01:46:39,741 But sometimes maybe the flowers are being given to you 2491 01:46:39,828 --> 01:46:42,613 and you're not even looking that direction. 2492 01:46:42,700 --> 01:46:43,788 You know what's gon' be the best part? 2493 01:46:43,875 --> 01:46:48,402 When the kid is playing Lola's verse, 2494 01:46:48,489 --> 01:46:50,969 and their parent is saying, "no, this is--" 2495 01:46:51,056 --> 01:46:53,102 and the kid going to be like, "you hear that? No, no, no." 2496 01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:55,191 Or the parents play theirs, 2497 01:46:55,278 --> 01:46:56,845 and they be like, "oh, that's Lola Brooke." 2498 01:46:56,932 --> 01:46:58,673 They be like, no, no, no. Let me hear your Dres. 2499 01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,023 Like, oh, that was Dres? - I love that about it. 2500 01:47:01,110 --> 01:47:03,634 Oh, yeah, you know how they do. - Yeah, I know. 2501 01:47:03,721 --> 01:47:05,027 You know how they do. Oh, yeah, yeah. 2502 01:47:05,114 --> 01:47:06,420 - I gotta go deal with this. - Yeah, yeah. 2503 01:47:06,507 --> 01:47:09,771 Make sure everything good. I'll talk to you. 2504 01:47:09,858 --> 01:47:12,774 Them boys be pulling up on the set... 2505 01:47:15,298 --> 01:47:19,128 And there'd be times like this where... 2506 01:47:19,215 --> 01:47:21,826 brother like myself... 2507 01:47:21,913 --> 01:47:23,785 exit stage left. 2508 01:47:28,485 --> 01:47:30,748 Yo, just--cops out here. 2509 01:47:45,676 --> 01:47:47,591 Big up yourselves, word up. 2510 01:47:47,678 --> 01:47:50,507 Y'all got it going on. 2511 01:47:50,594 --> 01:47:52,683 Now, normally, normally, you hear "The Choice Is Yours," 2512 01:47:52,770 --> 01:47:55,033 that's, like, the end of my shit. 2513 01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:56,470 But I got a project coming out 2514 01:47:56,557 --> 01:47:57,949 that's gon' blow all y'all minds, 2515 01:47:58,036 --> 01:48:01,257 completely produced by J Dilla, for real. 2516 01:48:01,344 --> 01:48:03,781 So maybe we'll introduce a little bit of it to y'all, 2517 01:48:03,868 --> 01:48:06,088 you know what I'm saying? Why not? 2518 01:48:06,175 --> 01:48:12,834 ♪ I, baby, don't need your love ♪ 2519 01:48:16,098 --> 01:48:22,800 ♪ I, baby, don't need your love ♪ 2520 01:48:26,021 --> 01:48:32,723 ♪ I, baby, don't need your love ♪ 2521 01:48:36,118 --> 01:48:42,820 ♪ I, baby, don't need your love ♪ 2522 01:48:45,214 --> 01:48:50,001 ♪ No, I'll never stop living ♪ 2523 01:48:50,088 --> 01:48:54,702 ♪ No, I'll never stop living ♪ 2524 01:48:54,789 --> 01:48:59,489 ♪ No, I'll never stop living ♪ 2525 01:48:59,576 --> 01:49:02,710 ♪ With this love ♪ 2526 01:49:02,797 --> 01:49:05,887 ♪ MTV ♪