1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,440 This programme contains some strong language 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,560 Where were you when you got the call that she was missing? 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,280 In my kitchen here, in this house. 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,920 It was a Saturday afternoon, I got a telephone call from her 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,880 flatmate, who said that she didn't come home last night. 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,960 And I said, "Well, she has just lost her telephone so she will turn up." 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,880 When she didn't do that, my worries started to grow. 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,240 Later in the day, she called back and said, "No, 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,280 "she's not coming home. I think you should come over." 12 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,560 So I was very depressed on the plane over, I started to cry 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,160 because I knew at the time that we would never see Martine again. 14 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,320 Martine Vik Magnussen was attacked 15 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,760 after a night out with friends. 16 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,920 The 23-year-old business student was raped and murdered. 17 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,280 Her body was found partially buried under rubble. 18 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,280 This is the prime suspect, Farouk Abdulhak, 19 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,520 the son of one of the richest men in Yemen. 20 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,480 I heard about the case when it happened. 21 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,720 My best friends are Norwegian. They asked me, 22 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,560 "Do you know a guy called Farouk Abdulhak from back home? 23 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,680 "A girl we know, Martine, has been killed in London." 24 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,320 And it was really shocking. 25 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,320 I was ashamed that the main suspect 26 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,040 was from the country I come from. 27 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Farouk Abdulhak fled to Yemen 28 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,160 within hours of Martine's disappearance. 29 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,040 As a parent, that is the hardest moment of my life. 30 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,520 Very close, nearly physically, to be ripped apart. 31 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,560 I met with Odd Petter, Martine's father. 32 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,400 And he was so desperate for answers. 33 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,880 If Farouk Abdulhak is as innocent as he claims, 34 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,720 why doesn't he return to Britain and help police solve this murder? 35 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Now we're 14 years on and that hasn't changed. 36 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,640 No journalist has ever been able to speak to Farouk - 37 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:48,440 not even the police. 38 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,160 There are only two people that know what happened that night, 39 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,040 and Martine isn't here to tell us, so it has to be Farouk. 40 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,800 We're from the same circle of people in Yemen, 41 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,480 and there's more than one avenue I can take to reach him for answers. 42 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,320 He's typing, he's typing! 43 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Martine! 44 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,000 Martine! 45 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Martine was a very enjoyable person to be with. 46 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,920 She was very social. 47 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,520 She was witty, had a great sense of humour. 48 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,040 She very soon got interested in horses. 49 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,600 I managed to get some sort of agreement with a local farmer 50 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,360 here where we hired a horse. 51 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,840 She actually took the horse one day and 52 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,400 rode into the schoolyard, of course without permission from anybody. 53 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,640 She was a human being of her own opinions. 54 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,640 She was extremely tough to argue with. 55 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,280 Martine was the explosion of a social talent and she was 56 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:29,400 so much adored and liked. 57 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:36,440 I was a little bit anxious about Martine studying in London, 58 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,360 the biggest playground in the world. 59 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,120 How are you? 60 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,880 Good to see you! 61 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,200 Fine, Yeah? Good. 62 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,120 How are you feeling? 63 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,480 I'm fine in a way but, of course, this is 64 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,480 the anniversary of Martine's passing, and we are going up to 65 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,720 Regent's University, where she studied, to put down flowers. 66 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,880 So this is a sad sort of day for me. 67 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,560 I'm going to leave you Yeah. 68 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,480 It's as if time has stood still for him 69 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,000 from the moment that Martine died. 70 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,560 You know, like his whole world is on pause, and the only thing 71 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,200 that's moving is him trying to get justice for his daughter. 72 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,880 I started trying to find Farouk three years after Martine's death. 73 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,160 The case wasn't moving, and his lawyer insisted 74 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,640 he was innocent of murder. 75 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,600 Farouk isn't just any Yemeni - he is the son of Shaher Abdulhak, 76 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,840 one of the richest men in Yemen 77 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:41,240 and close friends of the then president, Ali Abdullah Saleh. 78 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,040 We went to Yemen. We spent months looking for Farouk. 79 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,800 And then we received threats from the president at the time 80 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,440 to drop the story and leave. 81 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,480 And so we did. 82 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,240 We left because it just wasn't the right time to be poking. 83 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,640 It was really volatile at the time in Yemen. 84 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,640 I was more terrified of telling Odd Petter that we were no longer 85 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,360 going to work on this than I was of telling my editors 86 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 because I knew he had so much faith in me. 87 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,920 But the environment in Yemen has changed. 88 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Farouk's father is dead now, 89 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,400 there are different players on the ground, 90 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,480 and the protection around Farouk has weakened. 91 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,640 It seems like he is more reachable than he ever was. 92 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,600 And so that gives me a lot of hope. 93 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,480 The ultimate goal is to be able to speak to Farouk myself, 94 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,560 to ask him first-hand what happened that night 95 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,520 and why the hell hasn't he handed himself over 96 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,040 to answer all the questions that all of us want answered. 97 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,800 I want to ask all of you, just tell me a bit about Martine. 98 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,520 You guys lived in the Yeah. 99 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,080 What was that like? 100 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,920 She was always up to something. 101 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,120 She could prank call you. 102 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,440 She could... 103 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,000 She would hide my stuff 104 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,680 and watch me look for it. 105 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,440 That's a good example! That's a good one. 106 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,680 Is there anything that kind of triggers a memory of Martine? 107 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,640 That Chanel perfume. 108 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,720 She would shower in it. Definitely the fragrance, yeah. 109 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,800 She loved life and I remember she said it often as well. 110 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,240 She just loved it. 111 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,760 She was this like blonde, curly, happy, bubbly... 112 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,320 Mm. 113 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,320 That particular night, she was just celebrating and dancing 114 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,200 and having fun. 115 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,480 She was just very happy. 116 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,800 is... ..Europe's biggest dancefloor. 117 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,440 It was Martine and I getting ready, we were going out. 118 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,000 We were just listening to music, borrowing each other's clothes. 119 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,320 Just having fun before the night out. 120 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,000 She texted Farouk. 121 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,080 They were just talking about where and when and who was going out 122 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,760 and who was not. 123 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,960 She was always very eager for us to meet him and to hang out with him. 124 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:53,080 She said he was a very funny guy with a good sense of humour. 125 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,000 My impression of him the first time I met him was that he was nice. 126 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Maddox was the place to go on a Thursday, 127 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,520 so it was obvious that we were going there. 128 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,400 We all actually ended up going with our friends to Maddox 129 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,440 that night... 130 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,960 ..and then Farouk just joined us. 131 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,480 I couldn't put my finger on it, 132 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,640 but he was different than the first time that I met him. 133 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,400 Uh, he was acting strange 134 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,600 because he was just standing next to Martine all night. 135 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,880 I think it was me or it was you who took a picture of the two of them 136 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,360 and he got quite upset. 137 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,080 I don't think she thought that he was being different. 138 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:54,240 She was talking about an afterparty, yeah, with him and some friends. 139 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,680 Taxi! 140 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,840 I talked to Nina when I woke up 141 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,400 and she said that Martine hadn't come home. 142 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,600 We didn't really think much of it to begin with 143 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,160 cos we sort of knew where she was. 144 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,680 I just thought that she... she had spent the night with 145 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:31,480 Farouk at the... She fell asleep at the afterparty. 146 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,560 She sometimes crashed there because it was closer to... 147 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:37,680 ..the clubs and the bars and everything. 148 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,320 So it was just, instead of taking the taxi home, 149 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,760 she would just sleep at her friend's. 150 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,600 That night around 11, we got home and then we were really worried. 151 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,440 Yeah, when it was empty, Mm. 152 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,840 Thale and I went to the police station 153 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,080 and reported a friend missing 154 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,960 and...well, they didn't take it very seriously. 155 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,160 I think he said something like, "Oh, 156 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,640 "are you sure she's not just gone home with some bloke and whatever?" 157 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Um, and I remember we took Mm. 158 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,040 Did you try calling Farouk? 159 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,080 Nonstop. 160 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,840 Leave me a message and I'll get back to you. 161 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:43,080 I noticed that he has updated his status to "Farouk is home alone..." 162 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,280 ..so that was a big red flag. 163 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,960 I went to another police station with a friend of mine 164 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,640 and, while I was there, that's when I was told that Farouk had 165 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,400 actually deleted his Facebook... 166 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:15,720 ..and something clicked with the police, 167 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,280 and they started to take us seriously from then on. 168 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,280 I got the call regarding this particular case 169 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,280 relatively early on the Sunday morning. 170 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,000 So I met the borough detective who was 171 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,960 leading on this at Farouk's apartment. 172 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,480 I just saw something that was tantamount to a crime scene - 173 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,760 objects that were in places that you wouldn't expect them to be, 174 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,480 and, primarily, we found a piece of Martine's clothing. 175 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,800 At this time, we're still trying to find her. 176 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,120 And so we decided, right, let's start from the inside, 177 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,800 let's work outwards, and let's search the building. 178 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Immediately, you could recognise that the basement was not 179 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,920 just a completely sealed-off area to the residents of this flat. 180 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,120 It was just about understanding what rooms were there 181 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,720 and looking in every one. 182 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,400 And when they went into that room, I think, you know, 183 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,040 it was immediately obvious to them. 184 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,400 That's where we found her. 185 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,840 We knew that the family were actually in the air. 186 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,800 They were flying from Norway to the UK. 187 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,000 We decided, right, let's get some uniformed officers to meet them, 188 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,720 to take them aside, let's let them know straight away. 189 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Coming in to see her lying there, with a red carpet over her, 190 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,560 just the face with some bruises on her nose, 191 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,600 that is... 192 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,520 ..a situation beyond comprehension, really. 193 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,080 I knew that this was the last time I was going to see her. 194 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,960 So, after a while, 195 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:03,120 when we were sitting, the whole family around her, 196 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,800 the others left the room. 197 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,440 I couldn't leave Martine. 198 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,640 I just couldn't leave her. 199 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,200 So, I stayed on for five minutes... 200 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,600 ..saying goodbye. 201 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Our charge is for rape and murder, 202 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,760 so we are saying this was a sexual homicide. 203 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Immediately, you're trying to understand suspects. 204 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,320 There was an outside inquiry team. "Right, you're on Farouk." 205 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,600 So, they followed the trail as far as they could. 206 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,080 They're then down at the airport. You know, they're looking. 207 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,400 There was a confirmation of seeing him going air-side, 208 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,640 and going. So, for us, 209 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,680 it was trying to establish, well, where is he now? 210 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,720 We know he definitely got the flight to Egypt, 211 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,840 and then we established the Yemen connection. 212 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,600 We were confident that that's where he was. 213 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,920 We believe he is in the Yemen. 214 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,960 That's a country that we don't have an extradition treaty with, 215 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,840 and as such, we're in a difficult position 216 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,200 where we need to work closely 217 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,120 with the Home Office and the Foreign Office 218 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,680 in order to try and secure his return to the UK. 219 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,080 Well, I hope that all Norwegians recognise the sincerity 220 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,640 and the seriousness with which this case is being treated 221 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,320 by the British authorities, 222 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,600 and the determination of us to find the culprit 223 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,800 and ensure that he's brought to justice. 224 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:02,400 When Farouk fled to Sana'a in 2008, Yemen was peaceful, 225 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,840 but a few years later, a revolution broke out, 226 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,800 and then war threw the country into chaos. 227 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,680 A group called the Houthis, who live in the far north of Yemen, 228 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,640 they started taking control of, like, 229 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,520 all the state institutions in Sana'a and taking over the city. 230 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Yemen is split by a fierce civil war 231 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,320 between the internationally recognised government 232 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,400 backed by a Saudi-led coalition, and Houthi rebels allied with Iran. 233 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,880 The first air-strike dropped right over here. 234 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,280 Around six to seven minutes later, 235 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,760 the second air-strike dropped over here. 236 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,400 Sana'a, where Farouk was living, was heavily bombed. 237 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,320 The Saudi-led coalition's aim is to strike a strategic, 238 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,000 symbolic and financial blow to the Houthis. 239 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,680 Yemen's former President, Ali Abdullah Saleh, 240 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,560 was killed by the Houthi rebels, who are basically now in charge. 241 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,560 A fighter, Abu Ahmed, said, 242 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,440 "Thank God for the great victory 243 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,320 "and the end of the most corrupt leader in the Islamic world." 244 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,360 Farouk's family have all left the country, 245 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:22,160 but he's stuck there, and if he travels outside of Yemen, 246 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,320 he risks being arrested and sent back to the UK. 247 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,960 So much has changed in Yemen, 248 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,000 and things that blocked me last time are now gone. 249 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,520 I really want to speak to Farouk myself, 250 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,600 and there's more than one avenue that I can take to reach him. 251 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,360 So, first of all, I wanted to talk to you about what you know. 252 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:47,120 Like, do you speak to him? Are you friends with him? 253 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,360 Mm-hm. 254 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,480 Mm-hm. 255 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,120 Why? Why doesn't he go out? 256 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,400 Mm-hm. 257 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,200 No. I want to, but I just don't... 258 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,120 I don't know how, who to speak to. 259 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,560 I'm working on this story which you probably know about. 260 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,160 The main suspect in the murder case is Farouk Abdulhak. 261 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,640 Because I'm Yemeni, I've been trying to kind of get 262 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,840 more information on that side. 263 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,640 Wow. That's one of my family friends, 264 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,720 and he actually has been able 265 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,640 to get me Farouk's number. 266 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,000 But I guess now it's a question of what to do with it. 267 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,520 So, a friend of mine sent me a picture of Farouk. 268 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,080 It's, like, the latest picture of him out there. 269 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,680 Can you see him? Just there. 270 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,040 He's, like, bald now, with a beard, glasses. 271 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,440 And, apparently, this is from his dad's funeral. 272 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,800 He told me that Farouk has a Snapchat account, 273 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,600 so I'm going to try and find him because I have his number. 274 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,960 He's on it. Look! 275 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,600 He's bald with a beard, 276 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,920 exactly like the picture we just saw. 277 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,400 I can't believe it. 278 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,240 I think I should add him. 279 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,880 He accepted me! 280 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,400 Oh, my God! 281 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,640 He's typing. 282 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,240 He's typing. 283 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,040 He replied. I don't know what to say! 284 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,360 I'm going to say, "Are you from Yemen?" 285 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,840 He's typing. 286 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,840 He said, "No way, me too." 287 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,160 I've asked him where in Yemen. I don't know. 288 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,080 I'm just trying to keep the conversation going 289 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,880 while I decide what to do with this. 290 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,480 "I work in stock and cryptos." 291 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,360 And that's what that source told me. 292 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,840 He told me that the police called him 293 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,120 and told him that Farouk is working in cryptocurrency in Yemen 294 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,880 and that they're tracking it down. 295 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,920 He asked me how old I am, 296 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,000 and then I told him how old I am, and I was like, "How old are you?" 297 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,160 And he said 35, which is how old Farouk is. 298 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,360 Like, everything matches up 299 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:42,200 to it being really Farouk Abdulhak that's behind the Snapchat account. 300 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,400 He won't send me a photo. 301 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,520 It's just... 302 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,560 You know, it's crazy, number one, 303 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,080 but I also feel like this could be the closest we ever get to Farouk, 304 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,160 so it's definitely a breakthrough. 305 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,320 This is so surreal. 306 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,160 He just sent me... 307 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,440 Oh, my God. It's a barbecue. 308 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,160 When we first started chatting, Farouk was, like, talking nonstop. 309 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,040 I'd log into my Snapchat just to check, 310 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,080 and there would be tons of messages. 311 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,880 He was telling me everything. 312 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:03,560 The question is, 313 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,960 can I secretly record our conversations? 314 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,440 Because I know, if I ask him for an on-the-record interview right now, 315 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,040 he's going to shut down. 316 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,320 So, if I carry this on, 317 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760 he might tell me what happened that night. 318 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,880 Whatever you film ought to be moving things forward, 319 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,560 so it ought to be, you know, proving the wrong-doing 320 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,920 that you want to expose or giving you sort of information 321 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,200 that is, you know, substantive to the case. 322 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,200 And you may have to talk about other things 323 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,640 to sort of get him Yeah. 324 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Because secret filming is set up to catch somebody's behaviour 325 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,120 that is breaking the law or is in the public interest to expose. 326 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,520 So, because he's the only suspect in this murder case, 327 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,480 we can justify secretly recording, 328 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,440 as long as I tell him I'm a BBC journalist. 329 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,880 I mean, the plan is, I guess, to tell him who I am 330 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,520 and that I want to tell his story. 331 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,920 And then, hopefully, he'll carry on talking to me. 332 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,480 Sort of, you know, "I think we've built up trust... 333 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,600 "..but I don't want us to talk any further 334 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,160 "until you know exactly who I am." 335 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,960 I think it's quite important you say that. 336 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600 I'm so nervous. I've got butterflies. 337 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,920 He's probably googling the shit out of me now. 338 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,760 He's not even typing. 339 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:38,560 So, we knew this would be a risk. 340 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,080 He's, like, completely out of the app now. 341 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,440 I feel like what upsets me the most about this is 342 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,240 what am I going to tell Odd Petter? 343 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:51,760 We got in touch with Farouk, 344 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,680 but we didn't even ask him about what happened that night. 345 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,360 How am I going to look him in the eye and tell him...? 346 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,280 Oh, my God. He's typing. 347 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,920 He said, "Shit happens in life for a reason. I don't know why." 348 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,760 More of today's news now. 349 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,600 The son of an Arab billionaire has denied killing a Norwegian student 350 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,840 who was found dead shortly after he left the country. 351 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,080 They've named him as Farouk Abdulhak 352 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,120 from the Middle East, who lived at the flat where her body was found. 353 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,080 He's thought to have been with her the night before she went missing, 354 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,800 and they both went to the same college. 355 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,200 Did she ever tell you guys 356 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,400 about him wanting to get in a relationship with her? 357 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,640 I think he tried to kiss her once. Yeah. 358 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,440 And she said, "No, we're just friends." 359 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800 And she was like, "Oh, and he accepted it and it was fine." 360 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,360 Like, we all kept saying, 361 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,480 "This guy obviously has a crush on you," 362 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720 and she would be like, "Oh, no, he doesn't. 363 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,840 "Oh, it's not like that. We're just friends." 364 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,120 And then we didn't think any more of it. 365 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:15,560 He was her friend. 366 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:20,160 Yeah, she really cared about him. It was obvious. 367 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,200 She said that she felt bad for him 368 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,480 because he didn't seem to have a good family relationship, 369 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,360 like, grew up the way that she did, 370 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,200 with this really, like, close-knit, tight family. 371 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,840 So, she always sort of... 372 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,320 I don't know. She had a lot of empathy for him... 373 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,920 ..because of that. 374 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,200 Farouk is the son of a billionaire businessman, 375 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Shaher Abdulhak. 376 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,680 Police believe his family could be an important part 377 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,560 of getting him back to the UK. 378 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,320 Shaher Abdulhak, before this incident, 379 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,040 was this incredibly powerful man. 380 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320 He wasn't just a rich Arab businessman. 381 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,520 He was one of the most powerful men in Yemen and in the Middle East. 382 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,960 You know, the Abdulhaks are like the Trumps of Yemen. 383 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,200 What I really want to understand 384 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,840 is if his father played a role in helping Farouk evade justice. 385 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Everyone I've spoken to keeps telling me that 386 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,040 there's only one guy that was truly close to Shaher Abdulhak, 387 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,880 and that's Mustafa Noman. 388 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,680 There was a risk that, after I told Farouk who I am, 389 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,680 that he'd shut down and that we'd never speak again. 390 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,800 But I had this gut feeling that that wasn't going to happen. 391 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,480 I could tell that he wanted to keep talking. 392 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,880 So, we're just outside the office of Abdulhay Al Mejali, 393 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,440 who is this Jordanian businessman and really senior politician. 394 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,040 And he's also one of Shaher's really close friends, 395 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,280 he travelled a lot with him. 396 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,760 Police investigating the death of a Norwegian student have asked 397 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,320 the son of an Arab billionaire to return to the UK 398 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,200 Britain has no extradition treaty with Yemen, 399 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,720 meaning the investigation could now stray 400 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,800 into delicate diplomatic waters. 401 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Miss Magnussen's friends hope Britain may be able to secure 402 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,040 a one-off agreement with Yemen 403 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,280 to send Mr Abdulhak back to face charges. 404 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,920 # Happy birthday to you! # 405 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,680 Listening on the news - that was the first time 406 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,760 I heard about the intention by the family to offer me 407 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,160 $50 million to put the case behind me. 408 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,640 And I made it absolutely clear that I'm not going to accept 409 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,000 any sort of monetary compensation 410 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,200 for the tragedy that happened to Martine. 411 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,600 Give me five minutes and I'll give you a call. 412 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,440 I just got home and I want to change my clothes and stuff. 413 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,480 Hello. Hi. 414 00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,800 I'm good. How are you? 415 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,040 Yeah. 416 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,320 So, tell me, do you worry about your story, 417 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,200 like this story coming out in Yemen? 418 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,600 But what do you mean, like false news? 419 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,160 Why...? 420 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,280 What...but what's the alternative, Farouk? Come on. 421 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,880 Someone died, like, what's the other narrative? 422 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,640 What do you mean, what's their narrative? 423 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,000 What's the narrative that...? What do you mean by that? 424 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,000 They're never going to let it go. 425 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040 Well, it's going to get answers for the family 426 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,880 and the family are going to keep pushing this until they get answers. 427 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,000 Martine's family. 428 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,240 I know, but I guess they want to hear what happened. 429 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Yeah. But what about coming back? 430 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,400 Come on, Farouk, like... 431 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,720 So, when you say that you would do anything to give her father peace, 432 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:17,000 like, what do you mean? Like, would you talk to him? 433 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,800 Yeah. 434 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,560 Yeah. 435 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,760 I'll speak to you later. 436 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,520 Take care. 437 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,280 It really came across that the only person 438 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,400 he cares about is himself and how this is going to affect him. 439 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,000 He did not care at all about the fact that we're talking 440 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,280 about a murder here. 441 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,240 And it really was killing me that I couldn't say that to him, 442 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:53,800 you know, in this tone. 443 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,960 There's no there's no grey area. She's dead. 444 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,720 Her family lost her, and you ran away. 445 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,520 And they can't get answers because YOU won't answer up to it. 446 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,600 And, like, he just doesn't see any of that. 447 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,600 So this whole time, you know, 448 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,600 our main goal has been to try to get Farouk to answer our questions 449 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,320 on camera, right? That was the whole point of reaching out to him. 450 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:46,400 I want to give him an opportunity to answer my questions on the record, 451 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,760 knowing that he's on camera, 452 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,600 so that, not only can I see how he reacts to them face-to-face 453 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,320 but also I'll really be able to push him when he answers. 454 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,120 I used to drive down this road every single day to go to school 455 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,360 when I was younger, and now it's completely destroyed 456 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,720 because of the air-strikes that have fallen. 457 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,280 Um, it's just so sad to see it this way. 458 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,440 Look, this is one of the air-strikes that fell 459 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,920 during the beginning of the war. 460 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,760 Right in the middle of this bridge. 461 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,440 As soon as I went through passport control, 462 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,720 I was stopped by the Houthis, I was interrogated 463 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:37,040 and they made it very clear that I can't do any filming while I'm here. 464 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,560 That means anything I do in the country right now has to be 465 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,280 undercover and it just adds this layer of complexity 466 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,200 to what we're trying to do. 467 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,480 So, what are we going to do, are you still up for meeting or not? 468 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,360 Tell me what it is that makes you nervous. 469 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,240 How come? 470 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,320 Like, just always, or because I'm a journalist it makes you nervous? 471 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,000 Today has been such a frustrating day. 472 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,960 I've been texting Farouk about meeting him 473 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,760 and what I want to ask him is 474 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,280 whether he'll do a sit-down interview or not. 475 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,520 He then said that he would much rather meet me in his home 476 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,280 than in a public place, 477 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,880 and that if I wanted to come to his house, I could come right away, 478 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,600 but I just can't do that. 479 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,360 I can't go to his home. 480 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,880 I can't be in his house alone with him, 481 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,360 um, and I don't know if I'm going to be able 482 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,080 to convince him to meet me in a public place. 483 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,680 I just hope that coming here hasn't been for nothing. 484 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,160 Yemen, under the Houthis, has become incredibly difficult for him. 485 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:42,000 So many of the layers of protection that Farouk had are now gone. 486 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,200 Everyone around him fled and his father died too. 487 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,600 It means at any moment he can be taken out of his home 488 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,840 and handed over. 489 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,480 Hello. 490 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,560 So, I've just been thinking, 491 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,160 like, you know I know the family... 492 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,000 ..of Martine. So... 493 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,640 Like, I met the father. And then he stayed in touch with me 494 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,880 because I'm like one of the only Yemenis he knew 495 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,480 and so whenever he was doing stuff in Yemen 496 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,600 he'd call me and tell me about it. 497 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,760 You know Mm-hm. 498 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,960 I know that, more than anything, he wants closure because he wants 499 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,680 to know what happened that night to his daughter 500 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,280 cos he just has no idea. 501 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,080 Then why don't you do that? 502 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,640 Then why don't you do that? 503 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,720 I mean, there must be some point where you start remembering. 504 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:33,040 I don't believe that you don't remember anything. 505 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,240 I feel like that's such an easy way out. 506 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,360 Come on, you must remember something. 507 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,520 You told me yourself you get flashbacks. 508 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,720 I was going to speak to you 509 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,960 about whether you want to do something, you know, 510 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,320 get your side of the story out. 511 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,560 So I just got a message from Farouk and he said he's not ready to meet. 512 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,360 He said that he's too shy and he's too nervous 513 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,640 and that he doesn't mind waiting a few more months 514 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,240 for us to get to know each other even more before he'll meet me, 515 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:02,440 and there wasn't much I could say. 516 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,680 I mean, it's so...frustrating 517 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,120 because I just feel like I don't have it in me 518 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,240 to speak to him for much longer any more, to be honest, 519 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:20,480 and this is just, it's been really difficult and... 520 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,320 ..I feel like I've failed. 521 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,080 It's been a very interesting few days. 522 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,840 He's finally opened up about the case. 523 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:22,160 But ultimately, I want to see him on camera. 524 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,280 I want to ask him these questions to his face 525 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,080 and not to talk to him casually. 526 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,520 I want to be able to push back on the answers he gives, 527 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:35,280 because it's in the public interest for people to know what happened. 528 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,440 I just feel like everything we have been working on 529 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,720 has been leading up to this. 530 00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:34,880 Obviously throughout, I wanted to get answers for Odd Petter, 531 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,960 but I didn't know what those answers were going to be. 532 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,760 We were working on getting him some sort of closure, 533 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,560 but will he ever really get closure? We're not giving him that. 534 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:53,160 Because Farouk's still in Yemen and... 535 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,960 Yeah. 536 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,760 Hi. 537 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,680 Hi, Nawal, come in. 538 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,560 Good to see you. Good to see you too. 539 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,040 Long time. 540 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,040 Yes, it's been a while, hasn't it? 541 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,320 So, as you know, for a really long time, 542 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,280 I've been working on trying to get an interview with Farouk 543 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,280 and I haven't been successful. 544 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,400 But what I have been able to do 545 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,200 is to find him on social media 546 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,160 and to talk to him over some time 547 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,520 and try and get you as many answers as possible. 548 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,800 And I guess one thing I want to explain 549 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,200 before you hear any of this 550 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,520 is that there were moments where I really wanted to get angry 551 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,560 about some of the things he says, but I couldn't 552 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,400 because I really had so much more I wanted to find out from him. 553 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,600 I perfectly understand the sort of narrow path 554 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,080 in which you have to manoeuvre here. I do understand. 555 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,920 OK, so I'm just going to play you one of our initial conversations. 556 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,040 The family are going to keep pushing this 557 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,600 until they get answers, Martine's family. 558 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,680 I don't know what answers they want to hear. 559 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,920 Nothing's going to bring their daughter back. 560 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,800 I know, but I guess they want Yeah. 561 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,760 I don't know. 562 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,480 There's nothing that's going to be able to change what happened. 563 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,640 Yeah, but what about coming back? 564 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,640 I don't know, it's too cold there. I don't like the weather. 565 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,720 I'm mad. I'm angry. 566 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,600 I mean, I was furious, so I can only imagine how you feel. 567 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,440 I'm furious, that's the word, yeah. Oh! 568 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,480 I'm going to get him, one way or the other. 569 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,640 OK. 570 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,360 The real fact is, 571 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,600 if I don't remember what happened, there's nothing really to say. 572 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,560 I feel like that's such an easy way out. Come on, you must remember something. 573 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,640 You told me yourself you get flashbacks. 574 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,320 Yeah, but they're flashbacks of scenes. 575 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,880 A picture does not tell you a story. 576 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,440 For a very long time, he went down the line 577 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,600 of just continuously saying that he can't remember. 578 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,720 Here was an admittance. Here, he admitted that he had flashbacks. 579 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,440 So I told him that basically, 580 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,760 at this point, we reached a point where I was pressuring him 581 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,360 and saying it's really hard for me to continue talking to him 582 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,800 if we don't talk about what happened that night. 583 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,880 So he said, "Like I told you, 584 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,120 "it was just a sex accident that went wrong," 585 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:04,080 and then I said, "Come on, Farouk, talk to me", and he said, "Cocaine". 586 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,040 And then... 587 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,160 I know exactly how much they took 588 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,880 or what was found in Martine's body. 589 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,360 It was minor, in Martine's body. 590 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,840 Yeah, but I think what he's alluding to 591 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,440 is that he had taken a lot of cocaine that night. 592 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,760 He never denies his involvement. 593 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,760 No, not involvement, but he tries to portray it 594 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:29,640 as a mutual sort of accidental outcome of a sex act. 595 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:36,120 It's definitely been a sex act, but it has been forced upon Martine 596 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,320 as far as I can understand 597 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,360 from all the information I've gathered all through the years. 598 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,880 And that's why he's going back to the UK 599 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,360 to explain to the police what happened to Martine, 600 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,640 so that my family and myself can get some peace of mind. 601 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,040 For the last 14 years, 602 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,280 this has taken over her father's life completely. 603 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,520 He's given up everything. 604 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,480 He allowed it, yeah, that's his choice. 605 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,840 That's not fair, Farouk. What if it was your daughter? 606 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,920 You'd have done exactly the same. No? 607 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,720 I would have done something What would you have done? 608 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,720 I don't know. 609 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,080 I don't want to even think about it. 610 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,600 No, think about it. 611 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,800 What would you have done if it were you? 612 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,400 Probably something similar. Exactly. 613 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,320 My point is... 614 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,160 I'm thinking as a father, I only have one kid. 615 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,880 But he has other kids. 616 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,880 Shouldn't he be taking care of... 617 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,760 I don't want to talk about this. 618 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,920 OK. It's making me feel uncomfortable. 619 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,360 He has no empathy, obviously, with our family, 620 00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,920 and he doesn't show any sort of remorse or anything. 621 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,760 Does anything we've spoken about today 622 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,880 make you more optimistic or hopeful about the case? 623 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,480 I'm optimistic 624 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:24,480 that we actually might have a solution in the longer term, 625 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,240 more so than before, 626 00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:30,800 because we can talk to him. 627 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,880 I'm more than ever convinced 628 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,520 that there will be a solution to this case. 629 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,560 I just hope it will be on my terms, my ethical terms, 630 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,880 rather than anything else. 631 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,840 You know, if you don't stand up for justice 632 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,160 in a case of this nature, then what to stand up for? 633 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,640 It's true, yeah. 634 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,640 I can't imagine what it must be like 635 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,400 to lose your child 636 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,680 and to know that the only person accused of her murder 637 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,840 is living free. 638 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,080 My mission is to get Farouk 639 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,400 to put his foot back on British soil. 640 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,080 I will continue for the rest of my life. 641 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,040 And I'm going to succeed.