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CHRIS MOTEN:
<i>I know what I want,</i>

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<i>and I know what I wanna be.</i>

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♪

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<i>It is a little tough
having to perform with celebrity artists.</i>

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<i>I've played for--</i>

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<i>I've toured with
over a hundred celebrity artists.</i>

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<i>It's fun, you know what I'm saying?</i>

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<i>I love being on the road, I love touring,</i>

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<i>I love seeing different cities.</i>

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<i>When I first started traveling,</i>

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<i>I used to get caught up in the hype</i>

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<i>of being with the artist,</i>

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<i>kinda piggybacking off of what they had.</i>

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<i>I had to realize that that wasn't mine.</i>

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<i>You should definitely be
trying to find something</i>

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<i>that is your own.</i>

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<i>Y'all don't wanna be 50 years old</i>

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<i>trying to play on the road
with Justin Bieber or somebody.</i>

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<i>It's not gonna work.</i>

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<i>The exposure that we gain from that,</i>

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<i>doesn't amount to the gift
that God gave me and my destiny.</i>

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♪

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♪ upbeat hip-hop music playing ♪

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<i>♪ Yeah, yeah... ♪</i>

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PERSON 1:
<i>Atlanta is still the Mecca of the south.</i>

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PERSON 2:
<i>We come from a place</i>

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<i>where we do what we want,
how we want, and when we want.</i>

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♪ slow trombone music playing ♪

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♪

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Atlanta is a city,
but Atlanta is country at the same time.

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There's a lot of confidence
that comes from the culture of the city.

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<i>We're defiant, we're disruptive--</i>
[clipper buzzing]

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[customer chuckles]

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T.I.:
<i>We're passionate.</i>

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And for the city to be thriving
right now on every front,

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<i>from music, to films, to art,</i>

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and all aspects of the culture, it's good.

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You know what I'm saying?

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<i>We're still here having fun.</i>

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Atlanta is, it's just where it is.

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<i>Everyone's trying to get here.</i>

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[motorbike rumbles]

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For us to be a region

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<i>to where there's no, like,
real, like, major record labels here</i>

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<i>like in LA or New York,
for us to move like this,</i>

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<i>we grindin'.</i>

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You mean you ain't heard of Ludacris?

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<i>You ain't heard of OutKast?</i>

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TLC, Pretty Mob, Toni Braxton, Usher.

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PERSON 3:
<i>Like, they created the sound here.</i>

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<i>I feel like every city duplicates us.</i>

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It's-it's so much great music
coming out of Atlanta.

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<i>It's really not a sound
that is specific to just one genre.</i>

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<i>It's a DIY market
in the sense of building music</i>

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in their homes, but it's great music.

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You make a room of people
moving Atlanta,

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<i>that means you can move the world.</i>

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CHRIS:
<i>Everybody has their own idea</i>

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<i>of how they want to contribute</i>

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<i>their music to the world.</i>

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That's crazy.

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This is just mine.

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<i>Trap Jazz is a movement.</i>

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<i>Trap Jazz is a sound.</i>

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<i>And more importantly, Trap Jazz is a band</i>

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<i>of a lot of friends and brothers
that I started with</i>

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<i>from the beginning.</i>

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<i>Started first with Devon "Stixx" Taylor</i>

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<i>and then adding on Cassius Jay</i>

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<i>as the world-renowned producer.</i>

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We bridge the gap
between jazz and hip-hop.

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<i>The three of us
along with a lot of friends and family</i>

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<i>is a collective as the band, Trap Jazz.</i>

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[inaudible dialogue]

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It always come back to 3000
at the source of it.

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The south got somethin' to say,
that's all I got to say.

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DJ TOOMP:
<i>That sparked somethin'.</i>

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♪

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♪ synthesizer music playing ♪

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♪

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CHRIS:
...some new stuff.

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[keys clack]

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♪ high-pitched jazz music playing ♪

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CHRIS: <i>Trap Jazz is exactly
what you think it is when you say it.</i>

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<i>It's trap, and then there's jazz.</i>

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<i>Eclectic improvisation
mixed with, like, street gutter sounds.</i>

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♪ upbeat jazz music
playing on laptop ♪

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♪

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♪ music stops ♪

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I was listening to <i>"A" Train</i>

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'cause I wanna trap that out.

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'Cause that's-- basically it's trap jazz,

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there's a trap beat
and there's some jazz music.

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Real jazz, not like
a form of jazz, you know?

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So that makes a difference.
[clicks touchpad]

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That's gonna be tough,
'cause they swingin'

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and they doin' a different beat
than what we do nowadays.

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They're like--

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♪ scatting ♪

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I can move it around,

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I just gotta find
the right beat to go with it.

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♪ upbeat music plays ♪

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♪ slow upbeat music plays ♪

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♪ classical jazz music
playing on laptop ♪

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♪

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♪ fast-paced electronic beats
join classical jazz ♪

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It's too fast.

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[keyboard clacking]

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♪ classical jazz music playing ♪

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♪

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♪ electronic beats join classical jazz ♪

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♪

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♪ music grows louder ♪

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Ah! It's already, like, exciting me.

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♪

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CASSIUS JAY: <i>I just remember
Chris coming up with the whole idea.</i>

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And I ain't even have a clue
how we was finna do this.

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All I knew was I know how to make beats.

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♪ hip-hop music playing ♪

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CHRIS:
<i>No more than a week after,</i>

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<i>I felt like Trap Jazz
was something that I could do.</i>

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<i>I called Cassius.</i>

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I knew it was gonna be right in line
with the sound that Atlanta loves.

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Because if you don't know
Cassius, you're losing,

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<i>like, probably gonna be
the next king of trap.</i>

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- [camera shutters clicking]
<i>- ♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪</i>

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[inaudible dialogue]

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I've produced
for a lot of well-known artists

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<i>like Future and Migos,
Bankroll Fresh, Young Thug.</i>

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CHRIS: <i>And you got Cassius
coming up killing everything.</i>

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He's beyond his years
in music especially.

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<i>Like, most kids don't dig that deep.</i>

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He a real church musician
that can play like, you know, like a fool.

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JAZZE PHA: <i>And then when you
hear him play, you'd be like,</i>

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<i>"This dude gotta be
in his 40s or somethin'."</i>

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You know what I'm saying?

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'Cause he's just--

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His musical palette
is just, you know, <i>magnifique</i>

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'cause he's just--

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It's somethin' special.

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CHRIS:
<i>I called Cassius and I was like,</i>

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<i>"Bro, like, I need some beats.</i>

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<i>"I just need whatever
you would give to, you know,</i>

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<i>"Future, Young Thug, Gucci, like,</i>

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<i>"whatever you would give to them,</i>

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"give that to me.

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Like, give me, like, five of 'em."

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He's like,
"Well, just send me all your wack beats,

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"beats that you know
you ain't gonna give to nobody.

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Just send it to me."

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<i>He's like, "I promise you
I'll make somethin' up."</i>

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CHRIS:
<i>When I got 'em, I just, like, ripped 'em</i>

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<i>in, like, two weeks and I sent 'em back.</i>

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CASSIUS:
<i>I was fuckin' amazed.</i>

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<i>I was like, "How in the hell
did you come up with that?"</i>

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Like, how?

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I didn't even believe he did it.

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I was like, "I'm finna come over to
your house and see this shit."

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It automatically feel like
it's about to turn up.

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Like, okay, we already--

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They almost vibing to it.

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Females will be like, you know, "Okay.

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We don't hear no words yet,"

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but then we get here--

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♪ hip-hop beats playing ♪

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♪ classical trumpet note
joins hip-hop beats ♪

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And immediately, even you,
you just changed your vibe,

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because it's like...

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♪ classical trumpet note plays ♪

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...now you trying to follow
what this is saying,

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but this is already
saying something to you.

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What is the music saying?

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♪ gentle peppy music playing ♪

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♪

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<i>First song that h-he gave me,</i>

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<i>I took it to Jazze Pha
and Jazze went crazy.</i>

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<i>Like, "This is the new shit,
this is the next shit."</i>

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<i>He was like,
"This what you did over his beats?</i>

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This what you did?"

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I was like, "Yeah, it just--
that's my idea of trap jazz."

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♪ fast-paced drumbeating ♪

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♪

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DEVON "STIXX" TAYLOR:
Ah!

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♪

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<i>I played for some pretty cool artists.</i>

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<i>Zendaya,</i>

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<i>Mary J. Blige, Usher, Jagged Edge,</i>

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<i>Backstreet, Monica, Justin Bieber.</i>

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Shout out to JB, man, I appreciate it.

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<i>Love you, boy.</i>

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[crowd cheering]

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♪

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- How are you? Good to see you.
- You look nice.

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STIXX:
<i>Chris and Cassius linked up,</i>

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<i>they did some stuff.</i>

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<i>Chris was just like,
"Man, you need to play drums on it.</i>

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<i>He's like, "Little bro,</i>

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<i>"we really need to start a band.</i>

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"Playing behind artists and stuff is cool,

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but don't you think it'll be cooler
if, like, we played our own shit?"

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CHRIS:
<i>Dev is drummin'.</i>

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<i>I need that, because in Trap Jazz
he had this sound.</i>

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When he played
everybody in the room was just like--

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Up until that point,

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I hadn't seen no other musician
make people move like that.

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TERRACE MARTIN:
<i>Trap is a language.</i>

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<i>They're playing that at a very high level.</i>

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<i>It's not just, "I could do it."</i>

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So I'm just like, "No, let's pract--

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"Let's get it sounding. Let's--

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"Let's put this Black music
on one of the highest pedestals we can."

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♪ playing classical music ♪

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CASSIUS:
<i>Chris, Chris is a monster.</i>

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Chris is a hell of a musician.

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STIXX:
<i>Man, his sound is like no other.</i>

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The way he mixes certain sounds

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and the way he plays certain things, and--

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<i>Even just his arrangements.</i>

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<i>His mind is amazing, man.</i>

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<i>God really, really blessed him.</i>

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♪ piano music playing ♪

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♪

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J-FLY:
<i>Chris was actually a prodigy.</i>

240
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<i>Like, he got awards as a jazz pianist.</i>

241
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<i>He has natural talent, a creative ear,</i>

242
00:09:06,964 --> 00:09:08,757
but he also has the theory.

243
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<i>Those elements in one human body,
like, oh, my God.</i>

244
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We gotta get the music out there
to get people used to trap jazz.

245
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Then after that, we just try to
get our stuff played on the radio, and--

246
00:09:20,936 --> 00:09:22,563
<i>But what would we play it as?</i>

247
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<i>'Cause it won't fit in smooth jazz,</i>

248
00:09:24,147 --> 00:09:25,899
<i>it won't fit in jazz fusion,</i>

249
00:09:25,899 --> 00:09:28,026
it won't fit in standard jazz.

250
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CASSIUS: <i>Chris was like,
"Man, I'm finna try this trap jazz.</i>

251
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<i>I can't wait to tour
because I know it's gonna be big."</i>

252
00:09:34,825 --> 00:09:36,118
<i>I was like, "Well, listen."</i>

253
00:09:36,118 --> 00:09:37,286
<i>I was like, "You do the work,</i>

254
00:09:37,286 --> 00:09:38,620
"here go the beats.

255
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"I'll pay for the sessions,
I'll get it mixed.

256
00:09:40,664 --> 00:09:43,667
"I'll pay for the musicians,
I'll do the financial part.

257
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You just do the music part."

258
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STIXX:
<i>Me, him and Cassius,</i>

259
00:09:46,295 --> 00:09:49,506
<i>we booked, like, three days
at Glow in the Dark Studios.</i>

260
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<i>He already had
like a lot of songs already,</i>

261
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<i>you know, tracked out and mapped out.</i>

262
00:09:53,594 --> 00:09:55,721
<i>But, you know, he gave me creative control</i>

263
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<i>to put my own drum parts
and everything on it.</i>

264
00:09:58,390 --> 00:10:00,726
So, we came up with everything together,

265
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in one studio session.

266
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CHRIS: <i>The main reason
I'm doing it is for musicians.</i>

267
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It's definitely important to me
to leave somethin' behind.

268
00:10:08,525 --> 00:10:12,487
<i>My mom bought me this $500 little Yamaha,</i>

269
00:10:12,487 --> 00:10:13,447
<i>and I started making beats.</i>

270
00:10:13,447 --> 00:10:14,907
<i>And I would take it
to school and make beats</i>

271
00:10:14,907 --> 00:10:16,408
<i>and plug 'em to the speaker in the room.</i>

272
00:10:16,408 --> 00:10:18,493
<i>I was literally, like, making trap beats.</i>

273
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That, you know, mixed with jazz,

274
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I think that really
probably was the beginning

275
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<i>of, you know, what we call Trap Jazz.</i>

276
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♪

277
00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:36,220
♪ mellow music playing ♪

278
00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:39,932
[indistinct conversations]
[laughter]

279
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♪

280
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CASSIUS' BROTHER:
Get him, grandmama.

281
00:10:49,191 --> 00:10:50,150
He cussin'.

282
00:10:50,776 --> 00:10:52,694
You know better,
you don't talk like that.

283
00:10:53,195 --> 00:10:54,655
He's been raised in the church.

284
00:10:54,655 --> 00:10:55,948
He know right from wrong.

285
00:10:55,948 --> 00:10:56,782
CASSIUS:
Lemme see you do it.

286
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CASSIUS' BROTHER:
Let me see you, Nate.

287
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Hey. Come on, Nate.

288
00:10:58,784 --> 00:10:59,952
CASSIUS:
Get it! Get it! Get it!

289
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<i>Outta all my friends,</i>

290
00:11:01,370 --> 00:11:02,746
<i>I'm like the big dog,</i>

291
00:11:02,746 --> 00:11:05,707
<i>and they follow me
because I'm their big brother.</i>

292
00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:07,376
<i>I was the one out, out the whole group,</i>

293
00:11:07,376 --> 00:11:09,086
<i>out of Devon and Chris decided,
you know what?</i>

294
00:11:09,086 --> 00:11:10,754
I don't wanna just be
a church musician no more.

295
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I wanna be a producer.

296
00:11:11,797 --> 00:11:14,299
♪

297
00:11:14,299 --> 00:11:17,886
<i>Right now, today,
it's Father's Day, it's my day.</i>

298
00:11:17,886 --> 00:11:19,721
<i>And these are my beautiful kids.
We're hanging out.</i>

299
00:11:20,264 --> 00:11:22,641
<i>Having kids kinda
slowed me all the way down.</i>

300
00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:24,393
Even though I was in church and stuff,

301
00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:25,978
it slowed me down when I had kids

302
00:11:25,978 --> 00:11:28,063
because it gave me somethin' to live for.

303
00:11:28,063 --> 00:11:29,356
Gotta little girlfriend?
CASSIUS' SON: No.

304
00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,024
CASSIUS:
So you gonna leave your shirt off?

305
00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:32,734
And show your muscles?
CASSIUS' SON: Yeah.

306
00:11:32,734 --> 00:11:34,069
You got muscles?
CASSIUS' SON: No.

307
00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:35,279
FAMILY MEMBER:
Let's see your muscles.

308
00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:36,363
Let's see your muscles.

309
00:11:36,363 --> 00:11:38,115
Show your muscles.
Come on, turn around, show your muscles.

310
00:11:38,115 --> 00:11:40,242
- FAMILY MEMBER: Come on, don't be shy.
- Show your muscles.

311
00:11:40,242 --> 00:11:41,285
Hey!

312
00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:43,954
<i>The stuff I learned
from my dad, I put it in my kids.</i>

313
00:11:43,954 --> 00:11:45,664
<i>My daddy the reason why I'm a musician.</i>

314
00:11:45,664 --> 00:11:50,169
♪

315
00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,590
[indistinct chatter]

316
00:11:56,925 --> 00:11:59,094
CASSIUS' MOM:
This is the rock of the family.

317
00:11:59,094 --> 00:12:01,138
My husband was in the ministry

318
00:12:01,138 --> 00:12:04,766
and they needed music in the church.

319
00:12:04,766 --> 00:12:05,767
So my husband,

320
00:12:05,767 --> 00:12:08,437
he let my boys pick out the instrument

321
00:12:08,437 --> 00:12:10,355
<i>that they wouldn't mind playing.</i>

322
00:12:10,355 --> 00:12:12,024
♪

323
00:12:12,024 --> 00:12:13,775
CASSIUS:
<i>Like, drums, everybody could play drums.</i>

324
00:12:14,276 --> 00:12:15,277
Bass wasn't cool enough.

325
00:12:15,277 --> 00:12:17,362
I-I feel like bass players
real laid back,

326
00:12:17,362 --> 00:12:18,697
and I ain't got no laid backs, period.

327
00:12:18,697 --> 00:12:19,781
Like, I'm real hype.

328
00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:21,825
So I was like,
I wanna play the piano or organ.

329
00:12:21,825 --> 00:12:23,994
And organ was
the first instrument I sit on.

330
00:12:24,536 --> 00:12:26,914
CASSIUS' MOM:
Everybody looked up to his dad, too,

331
00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:29,208
would love to hear him sing and preach.

332
00:12:29,708 --> 00:12:32,669
CASSIUS:
<i>I'm just like my daddy. I'm same person.</i>

333
00:12:32,669 --> 00:12:34,087
Everybody say I act like him,
I dress like him.

334
00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,797
My dad was real flashy.

335
00:12:36,381 --> 00:12:38,634
CASSIUS' MOM:
<i>My husband died suddenly.</i>

336
00:12:38,634 --> 00:12:42,137
<i>He wasn't sick, no one could believe it.</i>

337
00:12:42,137 --> 00:12:45,516
<i>I was thinking I was going
to the doctor to be with him,</i>

338
00:12:45,516 --> 00:12:49,520
but when I got there,
they told me that he had passed.

339
00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,063
He was trying to get out
the car to ask for help,

340
00:12:51,063 --> 00:12:52,773
but he fell out the car, passed away.

341
00:12:52,773 --> 00:12:54,024
♪

342
00:12:54,024 --> 00:12:56,318
<i>And they told us he had
had a massive heart attack.</i>

343
00:12:57,027 --> 00:12:58,570
<i>We thought the world was over.</i>

344
00:12:58,570 --> 00:13:00,739
<i>Me and my brother, we was like,
"What in the world?"</i>

345
00:13:00,739 --> 00:13:01,865
<i>Like, where do we go next?</i>

346
00:13:01,865 --> 00:13:02,950
<i>Like, what's the next step?</i>

347
00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:04,576
♪

348
00:13:04,576 --> 00:13:05,994
If it wasn't for my daddy,

349
00:13:05,994 --> 00:13:07,246
I wouldn't be where I'm at right now

350
00:13:07,246 --> 00:13:09,373
because my dad the one who put the whole

351
00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:12,459
music into us, you know?

352
00:13:12,459 --> 00:13:14,586
If it weren't for my dad,
I would not be a musician,

353
00:13:14,586 --> 00:13:15,462
first of all.

354
00:13:16,046 --> 00:13:17,673
I wouldn't be a producer.

355
00:13:17,673 --> 00:13:19,550
My daddy the one who told me
I was gonna do this.

356
00:13:20,092 --> 00:13:21,260
He prophesied it.

357
00:13:21,260 --> 00:13:22,803
Every hit record I get on the radio,

358
00:13:22,803 --> 00:13:24,680
I come up here and play it for my dad.

359
00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:25,514
Point blank period.

360
00:13:25,514 --> 00:13:27,558
I don't know if he could
hear it or not, but I play it.

361
00:13:28,851 --> 00:13:29,935
Ain't nobody ain't gonna
never had to struggle

362
00:13:29,935 --> 00:13:30,978
the way he had to do.

363
00:13:30,978 --> 00:13:32,354
♪

364
00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:33,564
[voice breaking]
<i>Like not one of us.</i>

365
00:13:33,564 --> 00:13:37,109
♪ somber music playing ♪

366
00:13:37,109 --> 00:13:44,324
♪

367
00:13:44,324 --> 00:13:47,286
CASSIUS' MOM: <i>His dad had told me
an hour before he passed</i>

368
00:13:47,286 --> 00:13:49,413
<i>that Josh would make it.</i>

369
00:13:49,413 --> 00:13:51,248
Josh was gonna make it.

370
00:13:51,248 --> 00:13:52,749
[Cassius sniffles]

371
00:13:52,749 --> 00:13:57,004
[singing] <i>♪ Amazing ♪</i>

372
00:13:57,004 --> 00:13:59,298
<i>♪ Grace ♪</i>

373
00:13:59,798 --> 00:14:05,596
<i>♪ How sweet the sound ♪</i>

374
00:14:05,971 --> 00:14:09,349
<i>♪ That saved ♪</i>

375
00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:15,355
<i>♪ A wretch like me ♪</i>

376
00:14:16,231 --> 00:14:19,735
<i>♪ I once ♪</i>

377
00:14:19,735 --> 00:14:22,863
<i>♪ Was lost ♪</i>

378
00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:26,825
<i>♪ But now ♪</i>

379
00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:29,786
<i>♪ I'm found ♪</i>

380
00:14:30,204 --> 00:14:33,332
<i>♪ Was blind ♪</i>

381
00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:39,796
<i>♪ But now I see ♪</i>

382
00:14:39,796 --> 00:14:42,090
♪ drums music playing ♪

383
00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:44,885
[indistinct chatter]

384
00:14:44,885 --> 00:14:47,846
One, two!
PASTOR TAYLOR [on microphone]: <i>Dr. Jesus
make everything alright.</i>

385
00:14:47,846 --> 00:14:48,764
♪

386
00:14:48,764 --> 00:14:50,182
<i>I don't care what you're going through</i>

387
00:14:50,182 --> 00:14:52,184
<i>but your problem is nothing.</i>

388
00:14:52,184 --> 00:14:54,937
<i>Jesus will make everything alright.</i>

389
00:14:54,937 --> 00:14:58,315
<i>Do I have anybody in this house,
who don't mind--</i>

390
00:14:58,315 --> 00:15:01,568
STIXX:
<i>My dad got called into the ministry.</i>

391
00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:04,154
And so I started playing
in church in 2003.

392
00:15:04,154 --> 00:15:06,490
<i>I think I was around, like, nine or ten.</i>

393
00:15:06,490 --> 00:15:09,201
<i>That opened up the door for me to do
everything that I'm doing now.</i>

394
00:15:09,201 --> 00:15:10,118
♪

395
00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:11,745
PASTOR TAYLOR:
<i>Sing it one more time, folks!</i>

396
00:15:11,745 --> 00:15:12,871
<i>Come on now. Let's go.</i>

397
00:15:12,871 --> 00:15:15,332
[singing] <i>♪ Oh, Dr. Jesus ♪</i>

398
00:15:15,332 --> 00:15:16,542
<i>♪ Dr. Jesus ♪</i>

399
00:15:16,542 --> 00:15:18,001
<i>♪ He said ♪</i>

400
00:15:18,001 --> 00:15:19,336
<i>♪ Said he would ♪</i>

401
00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:20,212
[laughter]

402
00:15:20,212 --> 00:15:22,256
♪ indistinct singing ♪

403
00:15:22,256 --> 00:15:23,757
♪

404
00:15:23,757 --> 00:15:26,468
<i>♪ Dr. Jesus ♪</i>

405
00:15:26,468 --> 00:15:27,511
<i>♪ He said ♪</i>

406
00:15:27,511 --> 00:15:28,762
<i>♪ Said he would ♪</i>

407
00:15:29,221 --> 00:15:30,639
STIXX:
<i>That's-that's where I got my start.</i>

408
00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:33,350
<i>You know, that's where I was able to do</i>

409
00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:35,727
whatever I pretty much
put my heart to.

410
00:15:35,727 --> 00:15:38,063
<i>You know, in church
there's not really no rules.</i>

411
00:15:38,063 --> 00:15:41,692
<i>Like, that's when
you're really able to play freely,</i>

412
00:15:41,692 --> 00:15:42,734
<i>and, like, open yourself.</i>

413
00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:43,777
<i>It's kinda like jazz,</i>

414
00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:45,654
<i>like, it's not structured.</i>

415
00:15:45,654 --> 00:15:48,532
♪ indistinct singing ♪

416
00:15:48,532 --> 00:15:51,076
♪

417
00:15:51,076 --> 00:15:53,203
STIXX: <i>'Cause even with church,
you still gotta go to rehearsal.</i>

418
00:15:53,203 --> 00:15:54,538
<i>You still gotta learn the music.</i>

419
00:15:54,538 --> 00:15:56,957
<i>It's still a gig, it's still work
at the end of the day.</i>

420
00:15:56,957 --> 00:15:58,000
<i>♪ Say it again ♪</i>

421
00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,459
[inaudible dialogue]

422
00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:00,669
♪ indistinct singing ♪

423
00:16:00,669 --> 00:16:08,218
♪

424
00:16:08,218 --> 00:16:12,055
<i>♪ He's gonna make everything alright ♪</i>

425
00:16:12,055 --> 00:16:14,266
PASTOR TAYLOR [on microphone]: <i>Now,
come on, give God your prayer. Repent.</i>

426
00:16:14,266 --> 00:16:15,809
<i>Praise to Him!</i>

427
00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:16,685
<i>Whoo!</i>

428
00:16:17,311 --> 00:16:18,395
♪

429
00:16:18,395 --> 00:16:21,356
<i>And, you may be seated
in the presence of the Lord. Amen.</i>

430
00:16:21,356 --> 00:16:23,775
<i>God bless you all on this day.</i>

431
00:16:23,775 --> 00:16:24,985
[applause]
PASTOR TAYLOR: <i>Thank you, thank you.</i>

432
00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:26,361
<i>I wanna say Happy Father's Day.</i>

433
00:16:26,361 --> 00:16:27,821
<i>All the men stand up.</i>

434
00:16:27,821 --> 00:16:28,739
<i>All the men.</i>

435
00:16:28,739 --> 00:16:30,866
<i>All the men stand up. Amen.</i>
[cheers and exclaims]

436
00:16:30,866 --> 00:16:34,703
PASTOR TAYLOR: <i>We salute the men today
on Father's Day. Amen.</i>

437
00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:36,163
<i>Ladies, come on, make some noise.</i>

438
00:16:36,163 --> 00:16:38,582
<i>Make some noise. Real loud, ladies.
Scream in here.</i>

439
00:16:38,582 --> 00:16:39,458
[women cheering]

440
00:16:39,458 --> 00:16:41,502
PASTOR TAYLOR:
<i>Amen, like it's your favorite entertainer,</i>

441
00:16:41,502 --> 00:16:43,879
<i>scream in here like it's Luther Vandross,</i>

442
00:16:43,879 --> 00:16:46,507
<i>or whoever it is that you might listen to.</i>

443
00:16:46,507 --> 00:16:48,467
<i>Scream and cheer these men.</i>

444
00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:49,927
[screaming and cheering]

445
00:16:50,469 --> 00:16:51,845
<i>All praise. Amen.</i>

446
00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:52,721
<i>Thank you, guys.</i>

447
00:16:52,721 --> 00:16:54,431
<i>Thank you all. Thank you all so much.</i>

448
00:16:54,431 --> 00:16:56,266
<i>Amen. Amen. Amen.</i>

449
00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:58,143
♪

450
00:16:58,143 --> 00:17:00,729
DEACON SCOTT WILLIAMS:
<i>I started noticing Devon's talent</i>

451
00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:02,940
<i>when I used to play with his father.</i>

452
00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:04,274
<i>I went to his father and told him,</i>

453
00:17:04,274 --> 00:17:07,110
<i>"Hey, man, you know,
I like playing the drums.</i>

454
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:08,195
<i>"I really do, I love 'em.</i>

455
00:17:08,946 --> 00:17:11,240
But your son is anointed
to play the drums."

456
00:17:11,698 --> 00:17:13,116
[indistinct chatter]

457
00:17:13,116 --> 00:17:14,034
And they had noticed, you know.

458
00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:16,411
Whenever he's playin', he's smilin'.

459
00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:18,455
You know what I'm saying?
You can see him with that smile.

460
00:17:18,455 --> 00:17:22,709
I believe, uh, you will not
catch him not smilin'

461
00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:25,420
while he's playing the drums,
and, uh, because he loves it.

462
00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:28,841
First gig was with my parents,
was with my father,

463
00:17:28,841 --> 00:17:29,925
with his group.

464
00:17:29,925 --> 00:17:32,302
He had a gospel group
and it was called Interfaith.

465
00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:34,680
♪ indistinct singing ♪

466
00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,140
As Devon was comin' up, I was in groups,

467
00:17:38,392 --> 00:17:41,979
and, uh, Devon was there
watching our drummer, Scott.

468
00:17:41,979 --> 00:17:43,105
<i>And he would sit right there,</i>

469
00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:44,439
<i>right there up on Scott,</i>

470
00:17:44,439 --> 00:17:46,191
right there looking dead at the drums.

471
00:17:46,191 --> 00:17:47,442
And Scott had to say,

472
00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:48,819
"Back up, back up a little bit, Devon.

473
00:17:48,819 --> 00:17:50,153
Back up a little bit." [laughs]

474
00:17:52,155 --> 00:17:55,784
DEACON SCOTT: <i>There was a song
that Interfaith used to do</i>

475
00:17:55,784 --> 00:17:58,120
that gives the drummer
special little part in it

476
00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,204
where he can do his thing.

477
00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:01,915
PASTOR TAYLOR: <i>He had to be
about eight or nine years old.</i>

478
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,042
He just was like,
"Man, you're not ready yet, son."

479
00:18:04,042 --> 00:18:05,460
[all laughing]

480
00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:06,295
He'd say-- He said,

481
00:18:06,295 --> 00:18:07,588
"Dad gonna let you play."
FAMILY MEMBER: Yep!

482
00:18:07,588 --> 00:18:09,089
DEACON SCOTT:
<i>His father finally gave him a chance.</i>

483
00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:12,342
He said, "Okay, okay, we gonna,
we gonna put this in the routine."

484
00:18:12,342 --> 00:18:13,886
♪

485
00:18:13,886 --> 00:18:15,304
<i>We made up this a little skit.</i>

486
00:18:15,304 --> 00:18:17,973
<i>Like, Scott, you just gonna
act like you just tired,</i>

487
00:18:17,973 --> 00:18:20,267
<i>you-you done, you tired playin' the drum.</i>

488
00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:22,519
<i>And, uh, we was doing a concert.</i>

489
00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:23,979
<i>Devon right there, right next to me,</i>

490
00:18:23,979 --> 00:18:25,189
<i>like he always would be.</i>

491
00:18:25,189 --> 00:18:27,649
<i>And I stood up
from the drums and I told him,</i>

492
00:18:27,649 --> 00:18:29,735
"I can't do this no more, man,
I'm-I'm tired."

493
00:18:29,735 --> 00:18:31,695
<i>He said, "Man, I-I need, I need a drummer.</i>

494
00:18:31,695 --> 00:18:34,198
<i>Any drummers in the house?"</i>

495
00:18:34,198 --> 00:18:36,033
<i>And lo and behold,
little Devon raised his hand.</i>

496
00:18:36,033 --> 00:18:37,367
"I can do it, Dad, I can do it."

497
00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:40,120
<i>Gets on the drum set
and get to the part where</i>

498
00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:41,455
<i>the drummer gets his solo.</i>

499
00:18:41,455 --> 00:18:46,126
<i>And I'm talkin' about he had
the whole house amazed.</i>

500
00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:49,004
I would follow him everywhere
and then I would just play that one song.

501
00:18:49,004 --> 00:18:53,050
And that was like my first gig ever,
you know, playing with my dad.

502
00:18:53,050 --> 00:18:55,344
His father went
halfway around the world.

503
00:18:55,344 --> 00:18:57,304
Devon is gone all the way
around the world.

504
00:18:57,304 --> 00:19:00,182
♪ fast-paced drum music playing ♪

505
00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:03,435
♪

506
00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:05,812
CASSIUS:
<i>When I heard Devon, I was like,</i>

507
00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:08,607
"Whoa," like, I want you
to be my friend forever.

508
00:19:09,316 --> 00:19:10,317
<i>And I stuck with him.</i>

509
00:19:10,317 --> 00:19:11,693
<i>I never would let him get away from me.</i>

510
00:19:11,693 --> 00:19:14,988
♪ upbeat drum music playing ♪

511
00:19:14,988 --> 00:19:16,698
STIXX:
<i>He was playing organ for us.</i>

512
00:19:16,698 --> 00:19:19,576
I was around, like, 13 or 14 at the time.

513
00:19:20,452 --> 00:19:22,913
<i>And Cassius, he-he used
to always tell me like,</i>

514
00:19:22,913 --> 00:19:25,832
<i>"Bro, you are killing, bro."</i>

515
00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:27,459
<i>Like, you know I was a little kid,</i>

516
00:19:27,459 --> 00:19:30,546
like, "Thank you, man,"
all hyped, just smilin'.

517
00:19:30,546 --> 00:19:32,506
<i>And then he told me, he was like,</i>

518
00:19:32,506 --> 00:19:34,633
<i>"Man, playing the church is cool,</i>

519
00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:37,803
<i>"but, bro, you can go
so much further with, with your gift,</i>

520
00:19:37,803 --> 00:19:38,971
<i>with what you're doing."</i>

521
00:19:38,971 --> 00:19:40,556
♪

522
00:19:40,556 --> 00:19:43,016
CASSIUS: <i>No matter how big we got,
he called me Big Bro.</i>

523
00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:44,726
<i>"B-Big bro, what we doing today, Big Bro?</i>

524
00:19:44,726 --> 00:19:45,727
Big bro, where are we going?"

525
00:19:45,727 --> 00:19:46,562
I just go pick him up.

526
00:19:47,521 --> 00:19:49,815
STIXX: <i>I remember Cassius
used to come pick me up from school</i>

527
00:19:49,815 --> 00:19:51,275
<i>like, every other day.</i>

528
00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:53,151
[chuckles]
I used to get in the car with him.

529
00:19:53,151 --> 00:19:54,528
We would ride to the studio,

530
00:19:54,528 --> 00:19:57,656
we'd be recording where he had me
doing like, gigs and stuff.

531
00:19:57,656 --> 00:19:59,658
<i>He was just introducing me
to people around town.</i>

532
00:19:59,658 --> 00:20:02,452
♪ upbeat drum music playing ♪

533
00:20:02,452 --> 00:20:05,247
♪

534
00:20:05,247 --> 00:20:08,750
CASSIUS: <i>I introduced Stixx
to every drummer, every artist,</i>

535
00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:10,127
<i>'cause I knew he could outplay everybody.</i>

536
00:20:10,127 --> 00:20:12,546
He was young and I was excited

537
00:20:12,546 --> 00:20:16,258
to see a young musician outplay
the oldest cats in the world.

538
00:20:16,258 --> 00:20:18,886
<i>I'd take him over Chris' house
and little share with Chris.</i>

539
00:20:18,886 --> 00:20:20,137
♪

540
00:20:20,137 --> 00:20:21,305
CHRIS:
<i>Sometimes they'd come to my house.</i>

541
00:20:21,305 --> 00:20:24,266
<i>Everybody know I had this basement
where I had like two drum sets.</i>

542
00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:28,020
I had a, a bass rig, a guitar rig,
five, six keyboards,

543
00:20:28,020 --> 00:20:29,062
all this stuff, you know.

544
00:20:29,062 --> 00:20:31,064
<i>And everybody would
just come there and play.</i>

545
00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:33,734
<i>So a lot of times
Devon and him would come by,</i>

546
00:20:33,734 --> 00:20:36,111
<i>and then I realized
there's somethin' about this guy.</i>

547
00:20:36,111 --> 00:20:37,571
<i>Like, he had this sound,</i>

548
00:20:37,571 --> 00:20:39,072
<i>and every time he played a rap beat,</i>

549
00:20:40,157 --> 00:20:41,783
everybody in the room would, like,

550
00:20:42,701 --> 00:20:44,077
they'd start movin'.

551
00:20:44,077 --> 00:20:45,871
And it was, like, you could be
a dope drummer

552
00:20:45,871 --> 00:20:48,248
but it's hard to make
everybody in the room

553
00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:49,666
<i>move at the same time.</i>

554
00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:50,959
♪

555
00:20:50,959 --> 00:20:53,837
I describe my sound as real aggressive.

556
00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:55,672
♪ fast-paced drumming ♪

557
00:20:55,672 --> 00:20:58,050
<i>I like for people
to feel what I'm playing,</i>

558
00:20:58,050 --> 00:20:59,468
to feel my energy.

559
00:20:59,468 --> 00:21:01,428
♪

560
00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:04,181
CHRIS: <i>I don't think I ever wanna
do the Trap Jazz show without Devon</i>

561
00:21:04,181 --> 00:21:06,558
<i>because he just sounds
just like what we need.</i>

562
00:21:06,558 --> 00:21:08,936
♪ fast-paced drum music playing ♪

563
00:21:08,936 --> 00:21:31,208
♪

564
00:21:31,208 --> 00:21:34,253
♪ bright piano music playing ♪

565
00:21:34,253 --> 00:21:37,965
♪

566
00:21:39,174 --> 00:23:05,385
♪

567
00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:08,138
♪ music ends softly ♪

568
00:23:08,889 --> 00:23:10,557
CHRIS:
<i>That one's called Carrie Lee.</i>

569
00:23:10,557 --> 00:23:12,768
<i>My grandfather's first and middle.</i>

570
00:23:12,768 --> 00:23:14,478
<i>I've always liked that.</i>

571
00:23:14,478 --> 00:23:16,230
The second melody, the--

572
00:23:16,605 --> 00:23:18,649
♪ slow piano music playing ♪

573
00:23:18,649 --> 00:23:21,568
♪

574
00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:25,072
<i>It really makes me think,
like, about, like, the happy times.</i>

575
00:23:25,072 --> 00:23:27,366
[laughter]
<i>And some of the sad times, too.</i>

576
00:23:27,366 --> 00:23:29,159
<i>So, I like that song so far.</i>

577
00:23:29,159 --> 00:23:30,077
<i>I'm not even finished with it</i>

578
00:23:30,077 --> 00:23:31,828
but it's still fun to play.

579
00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:34,873
[distant traffic noise]

580
00:23:37,626 --> 00:23:39,628
♪ organ music playing ♪

581
00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:40,587
CHRIS:
What up, bro man?

582
00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:42,047
CHRIS' DAD:
Hey, man, what's happening?

583
00:23:42,047 --> 00:23:43,006
CHRIS:
Good, how are you?

584
00:23:43,006 --> 00:23:44,424
CHRIS' DAD: Just got back in town?
CHRIS: I did.

585
00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:45,884
- Your phone work?
- Sometimes. Sometimes.

586
00:23:45,884 --> 00:23:47,344
- Aah.
- Sometimes it work, sometimes it don't.

587
00:23:47,344 --> 00:23:48,262
Sometimes that it don't.

588
00:23:48,262 --> 00:23:49,763
- CHRIS: Actually.
- Where you been?

589
00:23:50,389 --> 00:23:51,431
Uh, New York.

590
00:23:52,057 --> 00:23:52,891
How it go?

591
00:23:52,891 --> 00:23:54,768
Most of the time New York,
based outta New York,

592
00:23:54,768 --> 00:23:58,480
and then going
everywhere else outside of that.

593
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,314
It's been fun.

594
00:23:59,314 --> 00:24:02,150
You enjoy your Father's Day,
without me, your favorite?

595
00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:03,694
Uh, Yeah, right.
[Chris laughs]

596
00:24:04,987 --> 00:24:06,822
- You like it?
- I can do a lot with it, yeah.

597
00:24:07,614 --> 00:24:11,869
Got my pads, faders,
and, you know, we like all that stuff.

598
00:24:11,869 --> 00:24:13,036
- CHRIS' DAD: Yeah, yeah.
- So that's pretty cool.

599
00:24:13,036 --> 00:24:14,663
CHRIS' DAD:
That's the next generation, just--

600
00:24:14,663 --> 00:24:15,956
- I got, I got mine.
- You enjoying your new organ?

601
00:24:15,956 --> 00:24:16,999
Yeah, man, I love it.

602
00:24:16,999 --> 00:24:18,542
- I love it. I love it.
- Yeah, I think it's nice, too.

603
00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:19,835
Open it up a little bit.

604
00:24:19,835 --> 00:24:20,919
Lets see what's it sound like.

605
00:24:20,919 --> 00:24:21,879
Oh, it sounds good.

606
00:24:21,879 --> 00:24:22,838
CHRIS:
Open it up a little bit.

607
00:24:22,838 --> 00:24:23,672
♪ plays high-pitched note ♪

608
00:24:23,672 --> 00:24:24,506
Ay!

609
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:25,424
That's, uh--

610
00:24:25,424 --> 00:24:26,300
♪

611
00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:27,301
You don't feel nothing?
CHRIS: Amen.

612
00:24:27,301 --> 00:24:28,760
♪ plays notes ♪

613
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,053
- Oh, it's nice.
- Yes, Lord.

614
00:24:30,053 --> 00:24:32,139
♪ plays notes, tempo decreases ♪

615
00:24:32,139 --> 00:24:33,015
♪ plays note ♪

616
00:24:33,015 --> 00:24:33,849
- CHRIS' DAD: What we gonna play?
- Yeah, that's nice.

617
00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:35,184
You get yours over,
we'll play something together.

618
00:24:35,184 --> 00:24:36,602
I just wanted
to hear it open up a little bit.

619
00:24:36,602 --> 00:24:37,811
- So I can learn something.
- That's the thing.

620
00:24:37,811 --> 00:24:38,979
- That's what make you go crazy.
- You can teach me something

621
00:24:38,979 --> 00:24:41,481
- before you go back on the road.
- That's that, ay-ya-ya!

622
00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:43,150
♪ soulful organ music plays ♪

623
00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:46,111
My dad, you know,
of course is an organist,

624
00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:48,405
<i>very popular organist in the church.</i>

625
00:24:48,405 --> 00:24:50,866
<i>And my mother's a very popular singer.</i>

626
00:24:50,866 --> 00:24:52,242
Know what I mean?

627
00:24:52,242 --> 00:24:54,494
CHRIS' DAD:
<i>Our house was filled with music.</i>

628
00:24:55,245 --> 00:24:56,580
Chris grew up with a Hammond organ

629
00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:57,623
in the living room.

630
00:24:57,623 --> 00:24:59,208
We were constantly in church

631
00:24:59,208 --> 00:25:01,710
because I was constantly playing
or his mother was singing.

632
00:25:01,710 --> 00:25:03,587
<i>So he grew up in church.</i>

633
00:25:03,587 --> 00:25:04,588
♪

634
00:25:04,588 --> 00:25:05,464
I can't do that.

635
00:25:05,464 --> 00:25:08,884
♪ playing lively music on keyboard ♪

636
00:25:08,884 --> 00:25:10,052
CHRIS:
Yeah, I remember that one.

637
00:25:10,052 --> 00:25:11,345
♪

638
00:25:11,345 --> 00:25:12,179
I remember that one.

639
00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:13,096
You remember that one?

640
00:25:13,096 --> 00:25:15,599
♪ fast-paced organ music playing ♪

641
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:17,309
♪

642
00:25:17,309 --> 00:25:18,185
Yeah.

643
00:25:18,185 --> 00:25:20,354
♪

644
00:25:20,354 --> 00:25:22,814
CHRIS' DAD:
<i>He would always sit on the organ with me</i>

645
00:25:22,814 --> 00:25:24,233
<i>or sit on the drums.</i>

646
00:25:24,233 --> 00:25:26,360
I bought both of my sons drumsticks,

647
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,569
<i>sometime I think it was a mistake</i>

648
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,488
<i>because the furniture
turned out to be a drum.</i>

649
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:31,615
CHRIS:
<i>That was the first thing I did.</i>

650
00:25:31,615 --> 00:25:34,826
And then out of nowhere
my grandfather [chuckles] was like,

651
00:25:34,826 --> 00:25:36,495
"You got enough drummers in the family.

652
00:25:36,495 --> 00:25:37,663
"Go-- Why don't you go play that?

653
00:25:37,663 --> 00:25:39,081
Why don't you go play piano?"

654
00:25:39,081 --> 00:25:41,416
And he literally forced me
to get on the piano.

655
00:25:41,416 --> 00:25:44,127
♪ peppy organ music playing ♪

656
00:25:44,127 --> 00:25:49,591
♪

657
00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:51,426
♪ piano solo ♪

658
00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:53,136
CHRIS' DAD:
Oh, I like that.

659
00:25:53,136 --> 00:25:54,930
CHRIS' MOM:
<i>I remember going to his room</i>

660
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:56,890
<i>and he'd have the radio on,</i>

661
00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:58,100
<i>and he'd be listening to the radio</i>

662
00:25:58,809 --> 00:26:00,519
<i>and playing behind the radio.</i>

663
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,146
So, when that started happening,
I just knew,

664
00:26:03,146 --> 00:26:04,606
you know, he had that connection.

665
00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:05,899
It was all God, you know.

666
00:26:05,899 --> 00:26:09,361
♪ peppy organ music playing ♪

667
00:26:09,361 --> 00:26:19,705
♪

668
00:26:19,705 --> 00:26:20,622
Ready?

669
00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:30,215
♪

670
00:26:30,215 --> 00:26:31,717
Ah!
CHRIS' DAD: You know I'm old.

671
00:26:31,717 --> 00:26:33,927
CHRIS:
You can play, man, you got it.

672
00:26:33,927 --> 00:26:34,761
Eh.

673
00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:36,555
CHRIS: I still need--
Got some stuff to learn I see, huh?

674
00:26:36,555 --> 00:26:38,348
CASSIUS:
<i>Every piano player, every organist</i>

675
00:26:38,348 --> 00:26:40,934
<i>from Atlanta, Georgia
looked up to Chris' dad.</i>

676
00:26:40,934 --> 00:26:43,854
I just happened to meet Chris at the time,

677
00:26:43,854 --> 00:26:45,230
and then after I met Chris,

678
00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:46,607
after I realized who his daddy was.

679
00:26:46,607 --> 00:26:49,234
His daddy was my daddy's best friend.

680
00:26:49,234 --> 00:26:51,403
<i>So then we just started, like,
showing each other things.</i>

681
00:26:51,403 --> 00:26:53,405
[Cassius laughs]

682
00:26:53,405 --> 00:26:55,657
CHRIS: I tried to start playing
more when he came up here.

683
00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:57,326
[laughter]
CASSIUS: Ah.

684
00:26:57,326 --> 00:27:01,163
♪

685
00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:02,581
I look like my daddy, don't I?

686
00:27:02,581 --> 00:27:04,499
[laughter]

687
00:27:04,499 --> 00:27:06,460
CHRIS' DAD:
All of this look like your dad.

688
00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:07,586
[laughter]

689
00:27:07,586 --> 00:27:08,504
What's up, man?

690
00:27:08,504 --> 00:27:09,421
That's crazy, eh?

691
00:27:09,421 --> 00:27:10,547
CASSIUS: Listen.
CHRIS' DAD: Look at you.

692
00:27:10,547 --> 00:27:12,090
CASSIUS:
Just like all the producers

693
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:13,592
wanted to be like Zaytoven,

694
00:27:13,592 --> 00:27:16,553
all the musicians wanted to learn

695
00:27:16,553 --> 00:27:18,305
how to play the organ just like you.

696
00:27:18,305 --> 00:27:19,223
[laughter]

697
00:27:19,223 --> 00:27:21,141
CASSIUS:
<i>Chris' daddy has a style in the church,</i>

698
00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:22,267
we call it a COGIC style,

699
00:27:22,267 --> 00:27:23,519
the Church of God in Christ style.

700
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:25,854
<i>It's like real, real, real churchy.</i>

701
00:27:25,854 --> 00:27:27,898
CHRIS' DAD:
<i>Josh is just like another son.</i>

702
00:27:27,898 --> 00:27:31,068
I haven't seen him since he was a kid.

703
00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:33,695
CHRIS:
<i>I've always known Cassius.</i>

704
00:27:33,695 --> 00:27:36,198
<i>I known him as Josh,
like, I know that's his producer name.</i>

705
00:27:36,198 --> 00:27:37,449
But this is-- I just know Josh.

706
00:27:37,866 --> 00:27:38,742
<i>We grew up together.</i>

707
00:27:38,742 --> 00:27:40,869
<i>His father sang, like, praise and worship</i>

708
00:27:40,869 --> 00:27:42,955
<i>while my father played organ.</i>

709
00:27:42,955 --> 00:27:44,122
This the first song you taught me.

710
00:27:44,122 --> 00:27:45,791
♪ slow organ music playing ♪

711
00:27:45,791 --> 00:27:49,878
♪

712
00:27:49,878 --> 00:27:51,255
Of course your chorus was--

713
00:27:51,255 --> 00:27:52,798
♪ fast-paced organ music playing ♪

714
00:27:52,798 --> 00:27:55,384
[laughter]

715
00:27:55,801 --> 00:27:57,427
CASSIUS:
<i>Chris' dad, through my whole family,</i>

716
00:27:57,427 --> 00:28:00,430
my mama, my grandma, all my aunties,

717
00:28:00,430 --> 00:28:02,266
<i>if it wasn't for him
being friends with my dad,</i>

718
00:28:02,266 --> 00:28:03,642
<i>I would not know Chris Moten.</i>

719
00:28:03,642 --> 00:28:04,893
[inaudible dialogue]

720
00:28:04,893 --> 00:28:08,230
♪

721
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:09,106
CHRIS' MOM:
<i>They just clicked.</i>

722
00:28:09,106 --> 00:28:11,942
<i>I guess it was the music
that drew them together.</i>

723
00:28:11,942 --> 00:28:13,443
He had somebody that understood him.

724
00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:17,823
CHRIS: This is uh, Decatur,
straight from the deck,

725
00:28:17,823 --> 00:28:19,324
Decatur where it's greater.

726
00:28:19,324 --> 00:28:21,785
<i>Decatur is very much like the hood.</i>

727
00:28:23,078 --> 00:28:25,497
<i>You know, then there's
a good part of it, too.</i>

728
00:28:25,497 --> 00:28:28,208
<i>There's a lot of families.</i>

729
00:28:28,208 --> 00:28:29,668
<i>You know everybody in the neighborhood,</i>

730
00:28:29,668 --> 00:28:31,461
<i>you know everybody a street over.</i>

731
00:28:31,461 --> 00:28:32,588
<i>All the families know each other,</i>

732
00:28:32,588 --> 00:28:33,922
<i>all the parents know each other,</i>

733
00:28:33,922 --> 00:28:36,008
<i>You know,
keep a look out for all the kids.</i>

734
00:28:36,008 --> 00:28:37,551
[children laughing]

735
00:28:38,635 --> 00:28:40,095
CHRIS:
This is the house I grew up in.

736
00:28:40,095 --> 00:28:43,140
The house I know most for growing up in.

737
00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:44,224
We moved around a little bit,

738
00:28:44,224 --> 00:28:47,769
but this is the-- where
all the memories were created.

739
00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:51,023
Um, this is where I got my first keyboard.

740
00:28:51,023 --> 00:28:53,108
- Your first drum set.
- First drum set.

741
00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:54,067
Um--

742
00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:57,654
This is even where piano
first came into my life.

743
00:28:57,654 --> 00:28:59,865
<i>Uh, there was a piano in the living room.</i>

744
00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:01,575
<i>And, uh--</i>

745
00:29:02,242 --> 00:29:03,619
<i>Uh, as crazy as it seems</i>

746
00:29:03,619 --> 00:29:06,914
<i>we was having church
every Sunday in the living room.</i>

747
00:29:06,914 --> 00:29:09,499
<i>And, um, so just family members
would come over</i>

748
00:29:09,499 --> 00:29:12,169
and just like church normally,
you know, they'd open the doors,

749
00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:14,129
everybody come in
with their church clothes on,

750
00:29:14,129 --> 00:29:16,256
sit down at regular chairs.

751
00:29:16,256 --> 00:29:19,426
<i>Set up like it was a really, you know,
a really-- a real service, you know?</i>

752
00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:23,305
♪ poignant music playing ♪

753
00:29:23,305 --> 00:29:25,307
I remember just being in this driveway.

754
00:29:26,558 --> 00:29:28,185
It was a very sentimental moment.

755
00:29:29,102 --> 00:29:30,812
I don't know,
I didn't know what was happening.

756
00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:33,232
- [insect buzzing]
- But I know my mother had gathered us up

757
00:29:34,024 --> 00:29:36,276
and, you know, they told us a few things,

758
00:29:36,276 --> 00:29:39,071
but we've been young, 12, 13.

759
00:29:39,071 --> 00:29:41,323
And then, you know,
I didn't, I didn't wanna believe

760
00:29:41,323 --> 00:29:43,242
whatever was, was getting ready to happen,

761
00:29:43,242 --> 00:29:44,701
but it seemed like it was really eerie.

762
00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:46,954
After my dad was, like, you know,

763
00:29:46,954 --> 00:29:50,541
"I'm basically leavin' for a while,
and will be gone for a while."

764
00:29:50,541 --> 00:29:52,334
I remember after that,
it just didn't seem real.

765
00:29:52,334 --> 00:29:55,420
♪

766
00:30:03,887 --> 00:30:07,182
And, uh, I probably was like
ten years old, maybe nine, ten.

767
00:30:07,182 --> 00:30:10,227
So at that point in my life I felt a,

768
00:30:10,227 --> 00:30:12,938
a responsibility to, like,
really take over.

769
00:30:12,938 --> 00:30:14,982
I didn't, I didn't think my mom
could tell me what to do.

770
00:30:14,982 --> 00:30:16,733
'Cause I was like, you know,
"I'm the man of the house now.

771
00:30:16,733 --> 00:30:17,568
"Dad said I got it.

772
00:30:17,568 --> 00:30:19,361
He ain't here so I'm-I'm in control."

773
00:30:19,361 --> 00:30:20,779
She like, "He didn't mean that."

774
00:30:20,779 --> 00:30:22,322
- [Chris's Dad laughs]
- "If you really think
you the man of the house

775
00:30:22,322 --> 00:30:23,490
you need to be paying some bills."

776
00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:25,659
- You know what I mean? So--
- So you settled down, then?

777
00:30:25,659 --> 00:30:26,618
CHRIS:
Yeah, I settled down.

778
00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:29,580
And I mean, and I did,
you know, when I turned 14, 15--

779
00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:35,252
CHRIS' DAD: <i>I spent, uh, 20 years
in prison from 1996 until 2016.</i>

780
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:38,005
It was a very difficult time
for all of us,

781
00:30:38,005 --> 00:30:39,131
my entire family.

782
00:30:40,174 --> 00:30:41,425
Um--

783
00:30:41,425 --> 00:30:44,303
I sent Chris music as often as I could.

784
00:30:45,053 --> 00:30:47,806
CASSIUS: <i>Chris' daddy used to
send Chris cassette tapes</i>

785
00:30:47,806 --> 00:30:50,309
<i>of him playing
because, of course, he was incarcerated.</i>

786
00:30:50,309 --> 00:30:52,519
♪

787
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:53,478
[tape whirrs]

788
00:30:53,478 --> 00:30:55,898
CHRIS' DAD [over tape]:
<i>Hey, Chris, check out this new song.</i>

789
00:30:55,898 --> 00:31:01,028
<i>I redid</i> Amazing Grace
<i>and I changed it to</i> Grace Amazing.

790
00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:02,070
<i>I kinda make it my own.</i>

791
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:03,197
♪ keyboard music playing ♪

792
00:31:03,197 --> 00:31:04,406
CHRIS' DAD:
<i>And watch the change right here.</i>

793
00:31:05,449 --> 00:31:08,410
<i>It'll flow right into it, the solo.</i>

794
00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:09,870
<i>I'ma do the organ first.</i>

795
00:31:10,579 --> 00:31:11,580
<i>Now here's the piano.</i>

796
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:13,290
<i>I was thinking about you
when I did the piano</i>

797
00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:15,167
<i>since you like the piano
more than you like the organ.</i>

798
00:31:16,168 --> 00:31:20,297
CHRIS: <i>Not learning music with him
versus him sending tapes</i>

799
00:31:20,297 --> 00:31:22,674
<i>and talking on the tape</i>

800
00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:24,593
<i>and telling me how it's supposed to sound</i>

801
00:31:24,593 --> 00:31:26,136
<i>versus him being right there next to me,</i>

802
00:31:26,136 --> 00:31:27,346
<i>that was tough.</i>

803
00:31:27,346 --> 00:31:29,598
Um, along with just not growing up,

804
00:31:29,598 --> 00:31:31,808
you know, without a father right there.

805
00:31:32,518 --> 00:31:34,144
CHRIS' DAD [over tape]:
<i>Now Imma come back with a symph.</i>

806
00:31:35,229 --> 00:31:37,856
<i>Watch the bend, watch the bend.</i>

807
00:31:37,856 --> 00:31:39,149
CASSIUS:
<i>But he would just tell us like,</i>

808
00:31:39,149 --> 00:31:41,735
<i>"These are the chords,
one by one. A flat, C, E flat."</i>

809
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,613
<i>That was a triad, of course,
A flat, major cord.</i>

810
00:31:44,613 --> 00:31:45,989
He'd just tell us stuff like that.

811
00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:49,535
CHRIS' DAD:
<i>He would send me back cassette tapes,</i>

812
00:31:49,701 --> 00:31:52,204
and he'd have a thousand questions,

813
00:31:52,996 --> 00:31:54,957
and I would always have one answer,

814
00:31:54,957 --> 00:31:56,875
"Figure it out.

815
00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:58,836
<i>"Because if I tell you,</i>

816
00:31:59,294 --> 00:32:00,629
<i>you're not gonna get it."</i>

817
00:32:03,507 --> 00:32:04,550
CHRIS:
<i>My dad was always like,</i>

818
00:32:04,550 --> 00:32:07,594
<i>"Even though you wanna know what I play
and play like me,</i>

819
00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,972
"you know, always have your own sound.

820
00:32:09,972 --> 00:32:11,682
"Don't ever wanna be like nobody else.

821
00:32:11,682 --> 00:32:13,559
"Don't ever wanna sound like nobody else.

822
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,687
<i>"You know, just develop something
that's your own off of,</i>

823
00:32:16,687 --> 00:32:18,730
<i>you know, what you learn."</i>

824
00:32:18,730 --> 00:32:20,274
CHRIS' MOM:
<i>Me looking from the outside in,</i>

825
00:32:20,816 --> 00:32:22,651
I could say his father was a, uh,

826
00:32:22,651 --> 00:32:24,820
a-- and still is, an awesome musician.

827
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,114
So when I look at it,

828
00:32:27,114 --> 00:32:29,783
<i>how many things could he
have shown Christopher?</i>

829
00:32:29,783 --> 00:32:31,493
<i>There were a lot of things that</i>

830
00:32:31,493 --> 00:32:34,454
<i>I know he could have been taught,</i>

831
00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:36,290
<i>or he could have learned from his dad.</i>

832
00:32:37,124 --> 00:32:38,458
I think I was the last person
you probably talked to

833
00:32:38,458 --> 00:32:39,877
before you actually--
CHRIS' DAD: Left.

834
00:32:39,877 --> 00:32:41,128
Maybe walked away and left.

835
00:32:41,128 --> 00:32:42,588
You know, like the last time we saw him

836
00:32:42,588 --> 00:32:46,383
before we would see him, uh, incarcerated
and have to visit him.

837
00:32:46,383 --> 00:32:48,177
I think the last time I saw him
before then was like,

838
00:32:48,177 --> 00:32:50,679
watching him walk on the driveway
kinda confused,

839
00:32:50,679 --> 00:32:52,347
but I know the last thing
he said to me, he was like,

840
00:32:52,347 --> 00:32:53,307
"Everything's gonna be alright.

841
00:32:53,307 --> 00:32:54,224
Don't worry about it."

842
00:32:54,224 --> 00:32:55,726
And, uh--
CHRIS' DAD: Well, did I lie?

843
00:32:55,726 --> 00:32:56,935
No, you didn't lie.

844
00:32:56,935 --> 00:32:59,479
It wasn't, it wasn't
alright for a long time, you know.

845
00:32:59,479 --> 00:33:01,023
- But such is life.
- But it turned out alright.

846
00:33:01,023 --> 00:33:02,441
Um, but you gotta
go through those things

847
00:33:02,441 --> 00:33:03,734
in order for it to be alright.

848
00:33:03,734 --> 00:33:06,528
You'll never know what alright is
if you don't see it all the way through.

849
00:33:06,528 --> 00:33:08,238
- CHRIS' DAD: Exactly.
- And I'm really glad that we did.

850
00:33:08,238 --> 00:33:09,823
We did. And made it the rest of the way.
CHRIS' DAD: Exactly.

851
00:33:09,823 --> 00:33:10,657
Yeah.

852
00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:12,701
That's a good father.

853
00:33:12,701 --> 00:33:13,702
I appreciate it.

854
00:33:13,702 --> 00:33:15,287
- Love you.
- I love you, too.

855
00:33:15,287 --> 00:33:17,289
♪

856
00:33:17,289 --> 00:33:20,501
<i>I think that's always
gonna be a part of Chris that</i>

857
00:33:20,501 --> 00:33:21,627
<i>is untouchable,</i>

858
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,839
<i>because I think he closed himself off</i>

859
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,133
<i>in many ways while I was gone</i>

860
00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:29,760
<i>because he didn't know how to deal.</i>

861
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,096
♪

862
00:33:33,096 --> 00:33:36,058
CHRIS: <i>Holding it in definitely
does seem better a lot of times.</i>

863
00:33:36,058 --> 00:33:38,685
<i>You're more comfortable when you're
holding it in because nobody knows.</i>

864
00:33:39,353 --> 00:33:40,812
As long as you don't deal with it,

865
00:33:40,812 --> 00:33:43,398
you think that it'll just go away,
you know,

866
00:33:43,398 --> 00:33:44,983
but it's not going away.

867
00:33:44,983 --> 00:33:46,693
It's actually
festering and growing, you know.

868
00:33:47,528 --> 00:33:50,280
<i>So, as easy as it was to hold it in,</i>

869
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,741
<i>at some point, it--
I would have to let it out,</i>

870
00:33:52,741 --> 00:33:53,992
<i>you know, and deal with it.</i>

871
00:33:55,577 --> 00:33:59,414
Chris is like me,
we don't show emotion and stuff like that.

872
00:33:59,873 --> 00:34:02,501
<i>Chris would more or less put in his music.</i>

873
00:34:02,501 --> 00:34:04,253
<i>He don't have to say it,
but you'll hear it.</i>

874
00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:08,715
People sit back and say,
"Oh, music's just music."

875
00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:10,759
Nah, music is life to us.

876
00:34:10,759 --> 00:34:13,679
<i>Because without the music
we'd probably be somewhere</i>

877
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:14,680
<i>we don't wanna be.</i>

878
00:34:18,684 --> 00:34:22,646
STIXX: <i>I definitely do think
Chris has the capability to be a leader.</i>

879
00:34:22,646 --> 00:34:24,940
<i>I know things make it hard for him</i>

880
00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:29,069
as far as being able
to push certain things

881
00:34:29,069 --> 00:34:32,239
because he has a million and one things
going on right now.

882
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,867
So, you know, you kinda
gotta stay on top of him, like,

883
00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,911
"Yo, Chris, don't forget, bro,
we gotta do this."

884
00:34:38,579 --> 00:34:40,831
ZAYTOVEN:
<i>The hurtful part for musicians</i>

885
00:34:40,831 --> 00:34:43,584
<i>is the money or the compensation.</i>

886
00:34:43,584 --> 00:34:46,962
<i>As a musician,
it feels good to play the music</i>

887
00:34:46,962 --> 00:34:48,881
in front of all these different people,

888
00:34:48,881 --> 00:34:51,091
but when it comes down to the money,

889
00:34:51,091 --> 00:34:53,468
it's like, it's not--
it's almost not worth it.

890
00:34:54,678 --> 00:34:57,264
I was gonna go to Whiskey
and just play there and have fun, but,

891
00:34:58,432 --> 00:35:00,976
then they called and said
they needed somebody to play.

892
00:35:00,976 --> 00:35:03,645
So, now it's turned into a gig,
turned into work now.

893
00:35:03,645 --> 00:35:06,356
So, ain't got no choice really.

894
00:35:06,356 --> 00:35:08,525
Wanted to make some money
to pay some bills.

895
00:35:09,902 --> 00:35:11,320
CHRIS' MOM:
<i>Most gifted people,</i>

896
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,613
they're one-track mind,

897
00:35:12,613 --> 00:35:14,990
they're-- their mind is on their gift.

898
00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:17,534
Their mind is on what they want

899
00:35:17,534 --> 00:35:18,869
and what they're dreaming of.

900
00:35:18,869 --> 00:35:21,955
[door rattling, squeaking]

901
00:35:21,955 --> 00:35:23,874
CHRIS' MOM:
<i>Christopher is not a selfish person,</i>

902
00:35:23,874 --> 00:35:27,836
<i>but I see where sometimes
his gift will cloud him</i>

903
00:35:27,836 --> 00:35:30,214
<i>of other things that are going on in life.</i>

904
00:35:31,632 --> 00:35:33,509
CHRIS:
What's the ETA for The Cats, 8:45?

905
00:35:33,509 --> 00:35:34,343
PERSON: Yeah.
CHRIS: Cool.

906
00:35:34,343 --> 00:35:35,177
He supposed to start at 9:00.

907
00:35:35,177 --> 00:35:36,386
He probably won't start till 9:30.

908
00:35:37,179 --> 00:35:38,013
[indistinct chatter]

909
00:35:38,013 --> 00:35:39,306
CHRIS:
Where the bottle at?

910
00:35:39,306 --> 00:35:41,725
KEVIN MCKINNERY:
<i>When it comes down to music career-wise,</i>

911
00:35:41,725 --> 00:35:43,101
nothing's easy.

912
00:35:43,101 --> 00:35:44,686
<i>You have to really put in your dues,</i>

913
00:35:45,979 --> 00:35:49,942
<i>playing, going out, marketing yourself.</i>

914
00:35:50,859 --> 00:35:53,612
<i>If anybody ever tell you
that that's easy, they're lying.</i>

915
00:35:53,612 --> 00:35:55,948
Can you grab that stand, please?
Thank you.

916
00:35:56,406 --> 00:35:57,324
I'm sorry.

917
00:36:00,911 --> 00:36:01,787
Uh-oh.

918
00:36:01,787 --> 00:36:02,829
PERSON 2:
You gonna push it down.

919
00:36:02,829 --> 00:36:03,872
CHRIS: You wanna go backwards?
PERSON 2: Yeah, back.

920
00:36:03,872 --> 00:36:05,165
CHRIS: I didn't want it
to be on top of your stuff.

921
00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:05,999
PERSON 2:
No.

922
00:36:05,999 --> 00:36:07,876
CHRIS:
Maybe I can hold it in front of me.

923
00:36:07,876 --> 00:36:08,710
PERSON 2:
See?

924
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:10,796
CHRIS: <i>And being on tour
with all these, all the celebrities,</i>

925
00:36:10,796 --> 00:36:13,423
you know, it's fun to do that,
but it's just, it was, it's a job.

926
00:36:13,423 --> 00:36:15,175
EMCEE [on microphone]:
<i>Cafe 290, what's happening?</i>

927
00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:17,719
<i>How's everybody feeling
on this Friday evening?</i>

928
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,054
<i>Y'all alright?</i>

929
00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:19,930
AUDIENCE:
Yeah.

930
00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:22,057
EMCEE:
<i>You all sit back and enjoy yourselves.</i>

931
00:36:22,057 --> 00:36:23,100
[applause]

932
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,727
CHRIS: <i>It's very important to me
that when I'm gone,</i>

933
00:36:25,727 --> 00:36:27,771
<i>like, there's something
that y'all gonna say.</i>

934
00:36:27,771 --> 00:36:30,232
Like, if there's one thing
Chris wanted to be carried on,

935
00:36:30,232 --> 00:36:31,191
what would it be?

936
00:36:31,191 --> 00:36:32,818
And it's gonna be
an easy answer for everybody.

937
00:36:32,818 --> 00:36:35,654
<i>It's gonna be Trap Jazz,
like keep that shit going.</i>

938
00:36:36,822 --> 00:36:40,158
♪ gentle piano music playing ♪

939
00:36:40,158 --> 00:36:45,622
♪

940
00:36:45,622 --> 00:36:47,207
<i>With this particular song,</i>

941
00:36:47,207 --> 00:36:49,042
<i>the melody was the first thing
I came up with.</i>

942
00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:50,794
♪

943
00:36:50,794 --> 00:36:54,089
Whitney Houston does this
one run that everybody stole.

944
00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:55,716
Like, if you are a great singer

945
00:36:55,716 --> 00:36:57,676
and you, like, riff a lot with your voice,

946
00:36:58,343 --> 00:37:00,387
or try to be acrobatic or whatever,

947
00:37:00,387 --> 00:37:02,014
you gonna do this run all the time.

948
00:37:02,014 --> 00:37:04,975
♪ plays piano notes ♪

949
00:37:04,975 --> 00:37:06,059
You know what I'm saying?

950
00:37:06,059 --> 00:37:07,936
So I wanted to find something
that people can relate to

951
00:37:07,936 --> 00:37:09,104
and that they can sing.

952
00:37:09,104 --> 00:37:10,814
And then when that,
when I'm not doing that,

953
00:37:10,814 --> 00:37:13,275
then I'll play
some other stuff and go crazy.

954
00:37:13,275 --> 00:37:15,652
But, for that melody,
when I was playing it--

955
00:37:15,652 --> 00:37:17,112
♪ plays high-pitched note ♪

956
00:37:17,112 --> 00:37:18,488
I just heard it like that.

957
00:37:18,488 --> 00:37:19,823
♪

958
00:37:19,823 --> 00:37:21,074
♪ plays high-pitched note ♪

959
00:37:21,074 --> 00:37:22,159
And I knew that wasn't it,

960
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:23,368
I was like, there's gotta be more.

961
00:37:23,952 --> 00:37:25,495
♪ plays high-pitched note ♪

962
00:37:25,495 --> 00:37:27,247
♪ jazz piano music playing ♪

963
00:37:27,247 --> 00:37:28,916
♪

964
00:37:28,916 --> 00:37:29,875
Now repeat that.

965
00:37:29,875 --> 00:37:30,876
♪

966
00:37:30,876 --> 00:37:32,836
I knew that I needed to find something.

967
00:37:32,836 --> 00:37:34,338
If people are gonna like Trap Jazz,
they gonna be able,

968
00:37:34,338 --> 00:37:35,464
they have to be able to sing it.

969
00:37:35,464 --> 00:37:37,257
'Cause the reason why
they don't listen to jazz now

970
00:37:37,257 --> 00:37:38,217
is 'cause they can't sing it.

971
00:37:39,134 --> 00:37:39,968
They don't understand it.

972
00:37:39,968 --> 00:37:40,969
It's too much going on.

973
00:37:40,969 --> 00:37:41,845
It's like all this.

974
00:37:41,845 --> 00:37:44,264
♪ playing fast-paced jazz music ♪

975
00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:47,643
♪

976
00:37:47,643 --> 00:37:49,019
Man, you can't sing that.

977
00:37:49,019 --> 00:37:51,522
I mean, it's all a part of, like,
making sure that to me,

978
00:37:51,522 --> 00:37:54,024
make sure people feel like
what they would normally feel

979
00:37:54,024 --> 00:37:55,400
in a rap song.

980
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,277
Like, if, if they don't feel like
they're not gonna label it

981
00:37:57,277 --> 00:37:59,279
the same type of music, you know,

982
00:37:59,279 --> 00:38:01,365
so if they feel like this is a rap song

983
00:38:01,365 --> 00:38:04,409
and like some girls is up
on the couches and chairs

984
00:38:04,409 --> 00:38:06,578
twerking, shakin' their ass,
like, I like that.

985
00:38:07,412 --> 00:38:10,040
You know, because I feel like
they're-they're-they're doing

986
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,210
what they would normally do
in a rap concert,

987
00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:14,878
and if they're doing that
at a jazz concert,

988
00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:15,963
we've accomplished something.

989
00:38:15,963 --> 00:38:18,590
♪

990
00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:20,259
<i>♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪</i>

991
00:38:20,259 --> 00:38:23,554
♪

992
00:38:23,554 --> 00:38:25,097
PRETTY KEN:
<i>Music is a feeling.</i>

993
00:38:25,097 --> 00:38:28,392
<i>So when you're trying to mesh
two different feelings together,</i>

994
00:38:28,392 --> 00:38:30,853
you really have to find somethin' special.

995
00:38:30,853 --> 00:38:32,354
You really have to find the groove.

996
00:38:32,354 --> 00:38:33,480
You really have to find it.

997
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,067
♪

998
00:38:37,067 --> 00:38:40,654
Because jazz is such a calming coolness.

999
00:38:40,654 --> 00:38:43,448
It's the unstructured playing

1000
00:38:43,448 --> 00:38:46,994
and just, it's that movement of the music.

1001
00:38:47,953 --> 00:38:52,291
<i>Trap, it's nothing movin',
it's just a vibe.</i>

1002
00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:54,168
♪

1003
00:38:54,168 --> 00:38:57,713
So you're trying to blend
this energy with this energy

1004
00:38:58,839 --> 00:38:59,840
and it's gonna be hard.

1005
00:39:00,632 --> 00:39:03,093
CHRIS:
<i>What makes it hard is not having</i>

1006
00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:05,971
<i>lyrical content in the music.</i>

1007
00:39:05,971 --> 00:39:07,389
If the song feels sad,

1008
00:39:07,389 --> 00:39:09,892
then typically it's gonna be sad lyrics.

1009
00:39:09,892 --> 00:39:12,728
So the music will always go
hand in hand with the lyrics

1010
00:39:12,728 --> 00:39:15,606
and us not having the lyrics in the music,

1011
00:39:15,606 --> 00:39:17,733
is kinda tough to get
people to understand

1012
00:39:17,733 --> 00:39:20,694
what it sounds like
or what we're trying to say

1013
00:39:20,694 --> 00:39:22,029
if we're not using words.

1014
00:39:22,029 --> 00:39:23,155
♪

1015
00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:25,574
YUNG JOC: <i>For people
to really take the music serious</i>

1016
00:39:26,158 --> 00:39:27,784
<i>or to really move with the music,</i>

1017
00:39:27,784 --> 00:39:29,161
♪

1018
00:39:29,161 --> 00:39:30,996
<i>I gotta relate,</i>

1019
00:39:30,996 --> 00:39:33,040
and I think that's one
of the hardest parts of being a artist,

1020
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,251
is trying to figure out
how to bring people together

1021
00:39:36,251 --> 00:39:37,503
<i>and get on one accord.</i>

1022
00:39:45,636 --> 00:39:46,470
[pool ball clacks]

1023
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:48,055
Oh, wow.
CHRIS: Damn, that's crazy.

1024
00:39:48,055 --> 00:39:49,765
CASSIUS:
See I do the, I do the hard part.

1025
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:51,892
My job is to produce,

1026
00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:54,102
my job is to make the trap beats.

1027
00:39:54,102 --> 00:39:56,563
Chris' job is to, to do the jazz.

1028
00:39:56,563 --> 00:39:58,023
Chris is a jazz musician.

1029
00:39:58,023 --> 00:40:01,401
It's my job and it's-it's my calling

1030
00:40:01,401 --> 00:40:02,778
to make sure I help all my brothers.

1031
00:40:02,778 --> 00:40:05,113
It's my job to help them.
It's my job to give them beats.

1032
00:40:05,113 --> 00:40:07,699
They want the beats
they just afraid to ask.

1033
00:40:07,699 --> 00:40:08,867
STIXX:
For sure.

1034
00:40:08,867 --> 00:40:09,701
CASSIUS:
And I don't know if y'all--

1035
00:40:09,701 --> 00:40:12,287
I wasn't afraid,
I called him 20,000 times.

1036
00:40:12,287 --> 00:40:15,040
- I sent 'em a track call <i>Red.</i>
- <i>Red.</i>

1037
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,667
STIXX:
The <i>Red.</i> Hey, <i>Red</i> go hard.

1038
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:17,876
- Wait till y'all hear <i>Red.</i>
- It go hard now.

1039
00:40:17,876 --> 00:40:20,128
- We gonna play <i>Red</i> Tuesday at the show.
- Yeah.

1040
00:40:20,128 --> 00:40:21,755
I've created probably six different,

1041
00:40:21,755 --> 00:40:23,465
seven different shows.

1042
00:40:23,465 --> 00:40:26,176
But this one that we're gonna do
is a show that we never done before.

1043
00:40:26,844 --> 00:40:28,637
CASSIUS: What songs are y'all
playing though for real, for real?

1044
00:40:28,637 --> 00:40:29,972
Man, we gonna play <i>Scream.</i>

1045
00:40:29,972 --> 00:40:31,181
- CHRIS: <i>Royalty.</i>
- It's the original.

1046
00:40:31,181 --> 00:40:33,892
<i>Royalty,</i>
Cassius produced it, Young Dolph.

1047
00:40:33,892 --> 00:40:35,519
We gonna play <i>Boot Up,</i> of course.

1048
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,229
We gotta really bring out all the stops,

1049
00:40:37,229 --> 00:40:38,355
you know, we gotta go crazy,

1050
00:40:38,355 --> 00:40:41,859
you know, we gotta really play
and let them know that this is Atlanta.

1051
00:40:41,859 --> 00:40:43,318
This is what we sound like.
This is what we do.

1052
00:40:43,318 --> 00:40:47,114
<i>It's gonna provide
a bunch of new opportunities</i>

1053
00:40:47,114 --> 00:40:50,742
and big old doors for us to knock down
and run through.

1054
00:40:50,742 --> 00:40:52,536
That's really big for us.

1055
00:40:52,536 --> 00:40:55,122
<i>Definitely one of
the biggest things we've done.</i>

1056
00:40:55,122 --> 00:40:56,874
CASSIUS:
When I think of jazz, I think of older,

1057
00:40:56,874 --> 00:40:58,709
the older community.

1058
00:40:58,709 --> 00:41:00,460
I don't think of the young community.

1059
00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:03,589
Young people don't listen to jazz,
they listen to trap music.

1060
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:07,092
So now we get to bring
the older generation into trap music.

1061
00:41:07,092 --> 00:41:11,972
So I think Trap Jazz is gonna bring
a whole 'nother community together.

1062
00:41:12,389 --> 00:41:13,557
STIXX:
For sure.

1063
00:41:13,557 --> 00:41:16,518
♪ playing slow drum and percussion notes ♪

1064
00:41:16,518 --> 00:41:22,274
♪

1065
00:41:22,274 --> 00:41:24,318
♪ notes grow louder ♪

1066
00:41:24,318 --> 00:41:26,820
♪ piano joins drums and percussion ♪

1067
00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:28,488
PERSON 1:
<i>I am not a fan of jazz music.</i>

1068
00:41:28,488 --> 00:41:30,365
My mother is a fan of jazz music.

1069
00:41:30,365 --> 00:41:31,700
<i>I've never got into it.</i>

1070
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,619
♪

1071
00:41:33,619 --> 00:41:36,496
PERSON 2:
<i>I'm not open to learning more about jazz.</i>

1072
00:41:36,496 --> 00:41:39,625
It's like something that I never

1073
00:41:39,625 --> 00:41:41,001
was interested in hearing.

1074
00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:43,962
♪ music grows peppy ♪

1075
00:41:43,962 --> 00:41:45,130
LALAH HATHAWAY:
<i>You know, If you go to places</i>

1076
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:47,132
<i>that you're supposed to be kinda classy,</i>

1077
00:41:47,132 --> 00:41:48,592
there's-there's jazz,

1078
00:41:48,592 --> 00:41:52,888
but there's not really, um,
an appreciation in this country

1079
00:41:52,888 --> 00:41:54,723
as a whole for that.

1080
00:41:54,723 --> 00:41:56,016
♪

1081
00:41:56,016 --> 00:41:57,226
RAY MURRAY:
<i>Has cobwebs on it,</i>

1082
00:41:57,226 --> 00:42:00,938
<i>which is why people run from embracing it.</i>

1083
00:42:00,938 --> 00:42:03,690
It's the term, it's not what it is.

1084
00:42:03,690 --> 00:42:06,985
It's your instant visualization.

1085
00:42:07,611 --> 00:42:08,695
<i>When you say "jazz,"</i>

1086
00:42:08,695 --> 00:42:10,864
<i>you think of a bunch of people
snapping their fingers</i>

1087
00:42:10,864 --> 00:42:12,824
<i>and somebody on stage.</i>

1088
00:42:12,824 --> 00:42:15,160
<i>That's an old reference
and it's stereotype.</i>

1089
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,789
♪ peppy piano music playing ♪

1090
00:42:18,789 --> 00:42:21,792
♪ percussion and sax joins piano ♪

1091
00:42:21,792 --> 00:42:23,919
♪ music tempo increases ♪

1092
00:42:23,919 --> 00:42:25,087
♪

1093
00:42:25,087 --> 00:42:30,717
DORATHA "DODIE" SMITH-SIMMONS:
<i>Jazz used to spell J-A-S-S.</i>

1094
00:42:31,343 --> 00:42:32,970
Do you know what that stood for?

1095
00:42:33,637 --> 00:42:35,848
Jackass music.

1096
00:42:35,848 --> 00:42:37,766
<i>That's what white folks called it</i>

1097
00:42:37,766 --> 00:42:41,770
<i>as one white musician
told me in polite society.</i>

1098
00:42:41,770 --> 00:42:43,981
♪

1099
00:42:43,981 --> 00:42:46,233
CHIEF XIAN ATUNDE ADJUAH:
<i>In that space, it meant one thing.</i>

1100
00:42:46,233 --> 00:42:50,863
In larger space, I think
when people use the word "jazz,"

1101
00:42:50,863 --> 00:42:53,532
<i>really they're talking about
creative improvised music.</i>

1102
00:42:53,532 --> 00:42:54,533
♪

1103
00:42:54,533 --> 00:42:56,743
SONNY EMORY:
<i>Jazz is different than any other genre,</i>

1104
00:42:56,743 --> 00:42:58,829
just simply because of the freedom

1105
00:42:58,829 --> 00:43:00,664
that it allows the player to have.

1106
00:43:00,664 --> 00:43:02,332
<i>There are no boundaries in jazz.</i>

1107
00:43:02,332 --> 00:43:04,126
♪ fast-paced jazz music playing ♪
[audience cheers and applause]

1108
00:43:04,126 --> 00:43:07,963
CHRIS:
<i>I used to watch these jazz videos of, um,</i>

1109
00:43:07,963 --> 00:43:11,049
Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie,
Miles Davis,

1110
00:43:11,049 --> 00:43:13,927
<i>Jelly Roll Morton,
Pagnell, Art Tatum,</i>

1111
00:43:13,927 --> 00:43:15,846
<i>Oscar Peterson, who was my favorite.</i>

1112
00:43:16,388 --> 00:43:18,307
He's my favorite piano player
in the whole wide world,

1113
00:43:18,307 --> 00:43:19,641
Oscar Peterson.

1114
00:43:19,641 --> 00:43:23,478
<i>I was listening to all these
amazing jazz musicians,</i>

1115
00:43:23,478 --> 00:43:25,898
<i>and what I really loved about them</i>

1116
00:43:25,898 --> 00:43:27,441
<i>was it seemed like when they were playing</i>

1117
00:43:27,441 --> 00:43:29,610
<i>they didn't have to play a certain thing.</i>

1118
00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:31,987
<i>It was like structured chaos, you know.</i>

1119
00:43:31,987 --> 00:43:34,406
<i>It was like they knew what to play</i>

1120
00:43:34,406 --> 00:43:37,242
<i>but they was coming up with it
as they was playing it.</i>

1121
00:43:37,242 --> 00:43:39,870
<i>That's what really made me
like jazz the most.</i>

1122
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:40,787
♪

1123
00:43:40,787 --> 00:43:43,373
CHIEF XIAN: <i>There's this air about it
that you could make an argument</i>

1124
00:43:43,373 --> 00:43:45,626
<i>that it's arguably the most sophisticated</i>

1125
00:43:45,626 --> 00:43:48,003
<i>sonic art form in the world.</i>

1126
00:43:48,003 --> 00:43:49,671
But it-- there's also this air about it

1127
00:43:49,671 --> 00:43:51,215
where it's, like,
it comes from Black people,

1128
00:43:51,215 --> 00:43:53,550
so it can't be
that sophisticated and nuanced.

1129
00:43:54,259 --> 00:43:57,387
MR. ROBERT COLN: <i>Growing up as a kid
and being African American,</i>

1130
00:43:57,387 --> 00:43:59,723
<i>the things that you listen to
are very limited.</i>

1131
00:43:59,723 --> 00:44:00,724
♪

1132
00:44:00,724 --> 00:44:02,976
On a normal day, and during that time,

1133
00:44:02,976 --> 00:44:05,270
you couldn't even put your face
on a album cover,

1134
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:08,398
<i>much let's say you gonna
go somewhere and play.</i>

1135
00:44:08,398 --> 00:44:12,653
Jazz got the African American musician
out into being seen,

1136
00:44:12,653 --> 00:44:14,154
and that was done through...

1137
00:44:14,154 --> 00:44:15,197
[camera shutters snapping]

1138
00:44:15,489 --> 00:44:16,490
MR. COLN:
<i>...Al Capone,</i>

1139
00:44:17,366 --> 00:44:19,535
<i>and all of the gangsters.</i>

1140
00:44:19,535 --> 00:44:21,828
<i>And they would ask the Black musicians
to come in and play jazz</i>

1141
00:44:21,828 --> 00:44:23,956
<i>because that's what they liked.</i>

1142
00:44:24,915 --> 00:44:26,416
But jazz has a origin, too.

1143
00:44:27,543 --> 00:44:28,377
<i>Gospel.</i>

1144
00:44:28,377 --> 00:44:31,672
VOCALIST [singing]: <i>♪ Trouble in my way ♪</i>
CHOIR [sings]: <i>♪ Trouble in my way ♪</i>

1145
00:44:31,672 --> 00:44:35,384
<i>- ♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪
- ♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪</i>

1146
00:44:35,384 --> 00:44:36,301
<i>♪ Trouble in my way, yeah ♪</i>

1147
00:44:36,301 --> 00:44:38,220
<i>♪ Trouble in my way ♪</i>

1148
00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:40,806
<i>♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪</i>

1149
00:44:40,806 --> 00:44:43,016
MR. COLN:
<i>Gospel has an origin too, the blues.</i>

1150
00:44:43,016 --> 00:44:44,685
CHOIR:
<i>♪ I lay awake at night ♪</i>

1151
00:44:44,685 --> 00:44:46,812
Blues has an origin, slaves.

1152
00:44:46,812 --> 00:44:48,438
CHOIR:
<i>♪ That's alright ♪</i>

1153
00:44:48,438 --> 00:44:51,149
JAZZE PHA:
<i>Gospel is the sole provider</i>

1154
00:44:51,149 --> 00:44:53,068
of everything that we do,

1155
00:44:53,068 --> 00:44:56,113
<i>because as children
we come from Sunday school.</i>

1156
00:44:56,113 --> 00:44:58,615
♪ upbeat gospel music playing ♪

1157
00:44:58,615 --> 00:44:59,658
[singing] <i>♪ When the gates ♪</i>

1158
00:44:59,658 --> 00:45:00,993
CHOIR [sings]:
<i>♪ When the gates ♪</i>

1159
00:45:00,993 --> 00:45:02,619
<i>♪ Swing open ♪</i>

1160
00:45:02,619 --> 00:45:04,830
CHOIR:
<i>♪ Ohh ♪</i>

1161
00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:07,666
♪ indistinct singing ♪

1162
00:45:07,666 --> 00:45:09,251
♪

1163
00:45:09,251 --> 00:45:12,129
STIXX: <i>Church has bred
so many musicians in secular music.</i>

1164
00:45:12,129 --> 00:45:14,047
<i>It's a spiritual thing, man.</i>

1165
00:45:14,047 --> 00:45:16,383
<i>You know, just God blessing us.</i>

1166
00:45:16,383 --> 00:45:18,677
Church is definitely, like,
a great learning tool

1167
00:45:18,677 --> 00:45:21,972
and a great starting point
for a lot of musicians

1168
00:45:21,972 --> 00:45:25,184
<i>to really see if this is
what they wanna do in life.</i>

1169
00:45:25,184 --> 00:45:29,271
<i>♪ Every day I wish you'd just teach me ♪</i>

1170
00:45:29,271 --> 00:45:30,647
ZAYTOVEN:
<i>When they create music,</i>

1171
00:45:30,647 --> 00:45:33,650
<i>it has a different passion,
it has a different soul,</i>

1172
00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:35,444
has a different heartbeat to it

1173
00:45:35,444 --> 00:45:36,778
than just somebody that just,

1174
00:45:36,778 --> 00:45:38,447
<i>you know, that didn't
grow up in church at all.</i>

1175
00:45:39,448 --> 00:45:40,866
CHIEF XIAN:
<i>They're responding to the energy,</i>

1176
00:45:40,866 --> 00:45:44,953
<i>and the vibration
in the space is important.</i>

1177
00:45:44,953 --> 00:45:48,123
So if you've ever been
to a Baptist church in Louisiana,

1178
00:45:48,123 --> 00:45:49,750
you are going to feel some things.

1179
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:51,585
<i>I don't-- You know,
you could actually think</i>

1180
00:45:51,585 --> 00:45:54,880
<i>that you may be the most heartless person
walking the planet,</i>

1181
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,841
<i>and walk into that environment
and it's a sound, man.</i>

1182
00:45:57,841 --> 00:45:58,926
♪

1183
00:45:58,926 --> 00:46:00,302
<i>♪ I know that you've been praying ♪</i>

1184
00:46:00,302 --> 00:46:01,595
CASSIUS:
<i>Church, that's our foundation.</i>

1185
00:46:01,595 --> 00:46:02,721
<i>That's what have us grounded,</i>

1186
00:46:03,263 --> 00:46:04,598
Stixx, Chris and all them.

1187
00:46:05,057 --> 00:46:07,643
CHRIS: <i>In our music I want people
to know that we from the church.</i>

1188
00:46:07,643 --> 00:46:09,144
CASSIUS:
<i>We, we know where we came from.</i>

1189
00:46:09,144 --> 00:46:10,646
<i>♪ I got some news... ♪</i>

1190
00:46:10,646 --> 00:46:12,397
LIL' JOHN ROBERTS:
<i>I went from church gospel music</i>

1191
00:46:12,397 --> 00:46:13,690
<i>to playing straight ahead jazz,</i>

1192
00:46:13,690 --> 00:46:16,068
<i>and then jumping into the R&B world.</i>

1193
00:46:16,068 --> 00:46:18,070
You know, I see these guys
doing the same thing,

1194
00:46:18,070 --> 00:46:19,196
like going from church,

1195
00:46:19,196 --> 00:46:20,822
now they're doing the trap stuff and all.

1196
00:46:20,822 --> 00:46:25,077
So, I like to see, you know,
the variety mixed into their music.

1197
00:46:25,077 --> 00:46:30,249
Jazz, rhythm and blues,
funk, fusion, hip-hop, trap,

1198
00:46:30,249 --> 00:46:32,626
they are all an expression
from the street,

1199
00:46:32,626 --> 00:46:35,712
from people saying,
"Here-here's what we wanna put into this.

1200
00:46:35,712 --> 00:46:37,965
"We want to interject this
into the conversation.

1201
00:46:37,965 --> 00:46:39,174
We want our voices heard."

1202
00:46:39,174 --> 00:46:40,926
What is trap music? What does it do?

1203
00:46:41,426 --> 00:46:43,971
<i>♪ I don't do the most, but I do a lot ♪</i>

1204
00:46:44,847 --> 00:46:47,391
<i>♪ I'ma make a toast
'cause we still alive ♪</i>

1205
00:46:47,391 --> 00:46:49,184
CASSIUS:
<i>Trap music is the new pop music.</i>

1206
00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:52,104
Like, you don't hear too much people
talking about pop no more.

1207
00:46:52,104 --> 00:46:52,938
<i>♪ I shoot the shot ♪</i>

1208
00:46:52,938 --> 00:46:53,772
<i>♪ Brr, brr, brr ♪</i>

1209
00:46:53,772 --> 00:46:55,148
<i>♪ I'm coming in hot ♪</i>

1210
00:46:55,148 --> 00:47:00,487
♪

1211
00:47:00,487 --> 00:47:02,072
CASSIUS: <i>Urban music
is the biggest thing right now.</i>

1212
00:47:02,072 --> 00:47:03,574
<i>Everybody wanna be Young Thug.</i>

1213
00:47:03,574 --> 00:47:05,701
STIXX:
<i>Trap music is Atlanta.</i>

1214
00:47:05,701 --> 00:47:06,827
<i>That's our sound.</i>

1215
00:47:06,827 --> 00:47:09,913
That's how it has taken over,
like, our city and our culture.

1216
00:47:09,913 --> 00:47:10,998
<i>You know, I love it.</i>

1217
00:47:11,456 --> 00:47:12,291
♪

1218
00:47:12,291 --> 00:47:13,917
[sirens wailing]
[helicopter whirring]

1219
00:47:13,917 --> 00:47:17,171
♪

1220
00:47:17,171 --> 00:47:19,756
CASSIUS:
<i>The trap is hood stuff, gangster stuff,</i>

1221
00:47:19,756 --> 00:47:22,801
<i>gangs and drugs and guns,</i>

1222
00:47:22,801 --> 00:47:24,511
<i>and trap is the ghetto.</i>

1223
00:47:24,511 --> 00:47:26,180
<i>Once you in there, you in there,</i>

1224
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:27,514
<i>there ain't no coming out.</i>

1225
00:47:27,514 --> 00:47:28,891
It's a trap.

1226
00:47:29,308 --> 00:47:30,726
<i>The house I grew up in,</i>

1227
00:47:30,726 --> 00:47:33,770
literally right across the street
was a trap house,

1228
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:34,646
<i>right next door.</i>

1229
00:47:34,646 --> 00:47:36,523
<i>Like, it just was a way of life.</i>

1230
00:47:36,523 --> 00:47:40,068
<i>That's all they knew,
was how to sell drugs.</i>

1231
00:47:40,068 --> 00:47:42,988
You gotta be in the trap
to make trap music, man.

1232
00:47:42,988 --> 00:47:45,949
But this is where this shit started from
though. Know what I'm saying?

1233
00:47:45,949 --> 00:47:47,367
This where this shit started from.

1234
00:47:47,367 --> 00:47:48,744
Trap music could be anything either.

1235
00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:49,620
Ain't gonna lie to you,

1236
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:51,371
we talking about trap music
it's been a little trap.

1237
00:47:51,371 --> 00:47:52,539
INTERVIEWER:
It did?

1238
00:47:52,539 --> 00:47:53,498
So what trap mean to you?

1239
00:47:53,498 --> 00:47:55,751
The real trap is survival.

1240
00:47:56,168 --> 00:47:58,629
Man, there's a whole lot of narcotics
on the, on the mix tape, man.

1241
00:47:58,629 --> 00:48:00,506
You know what I mean?
You just spin your drug lingo,

1242
00:48:00,506 --> 00:48:05,469
you spin the discrete side
of your lifestyle on music.

1243
00:48:05,469 --> 00:48:07,804
My second album
was the first time the word "trap"

1244
00:48:07,804 --> 00:48:10,224
and the word "music" was combined.

1245
00:48:10,224 --> 00:48:12,935
<i>The album meant to represent
a large group of people</i>

1246
00:48:12,935 --> 00:48:15,812
<i>who were doing the same shit
that I was doing,</i>

1247
00:48:15,812 --> 00:48:17,940
<i>and wasn't nobody speaking
for 'em at the time.</i>

1248
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:20,317
You inspire them and let them know that

1249
00:48:20,317 --> 00:48:22,027
you too could come from that wreckage

1250
00:48:22,027 --> 00:48:26,073
and make something of the skills
that you've acquired

1251
00:48:26,073 --> 00:48:27,324
<i>and take it somewhere else.</i>

1252
00:48:27,324 --> 00:48:30,244
<i>I didn't go into making that album</i>

1253
00:48:30,244 --> 00:48:32,746
<i>as thinking that the world
needed trap music.</i>

1254
00:48:32,746 --> 00:48:35,791
<i>I went into it thinking
the niggas in the trap</i>

1255
00:48:35,791 --> 00:48:37,417
<i>needed trap music.</i> [chuckles]

1256
00:48:37,417 --> 00:48:41,839
People think that it's strictly about,
you know, selling drugs.

1257
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:43,298
<i>It-It might have stemmed from that,</i>

1258
00:48:43,298 --> 00:48:44,883
<i>but that's not all it is.</i>

1259
00:48:44,883 --> 00:48:47,135
CASSIUS: <i>If it wasn't for Zaytoven,
there wouldn't be a Cassius.</i>

1260
00:48:47,135 --> 00:48:50,472
<i>And there's another way,
I met Zaytoven at church.</i>

1261
00:48:50,472 --> 00:48:53,475
Everything I came across was
at church, church, church, church, church.

1262
00:48:53,475 --> 00:48:55,060
That's why I still play at church.

1263
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:56,895
I started making beats like Zaytoven.

1264
00:48:57,563 --> 00:48:59,481
Everything he did, I would mimic,
I would sit right there.

1265
00:48:59,481 --> 00:49:01,191
He had an MPC, I went and bought an MPC.

1266
00:49:01,191 --> 00:49:03,902
He would go get, uh, Kronos keyboard,

1267
00:49:03,902 --> 00:49:06,071
I'd go save up me some money,
get a Kronos keyboard.

1268
00:49:06,071 --> 00:49:08,031
At this time I don't really got
too much of no money,

1269
00:49:08,031 --> 00:49:10,117
but I'm hanging with Zaytoven, since like,

1270
00:49:10,117 --> 00:49:12,202
if I wanna be like him, I gotta mimic him.

1271
00:49:12,202 --> 00:49:14,204
♪ hip-hop beat playing ♪

1272
00:49:14,204 --> 00:49:19,459
♪

1273
00:49:19,459 --> 00:49:21,295
ZAYTOVEN:
<i>My definition of trap music is,</i>

1274
00:49:21,295 --> 00:49:25,048
<i>it's motivational music,
spontaneous music.</i>

1275
00:49:25,048 --> 00:49:28,260
♪

1276
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:29,887
<i>It's unpolished music.</i>

1277
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,139
STIXX:
<i>I think people are drawn to it</i>

1278
00:49:32,139 --> 00:49:35,225
<i>number one,
because of how the beats sound,</i>

1279
00:49:35,225 --> 00:49:37,227
<i>that grimy sound is the trap sound.</i>

1280
00:49:37,227 --> 00:49:39,646
You know, it make everybody dance
soon as they hear it.

1281
00:49:40,355 --> 00:49:42,232
DJ TOOMP:
<i>Now you got effects that'll</i>

1282
00:49:42,232 --> 00:49:43,942
<i>take the music and warp it.</i>

1283
00:49:43,942 --> 00:49:47,487
[imitates electronic beats
warbling and warping]

1284
00:49:47,487 --> 00:49:49,031
And all the kinda filtering.

1285
00:49:49,031 --> 00:49:51,074
♪ playing piano notes ♪

1286
00:49:51,074 --> 00:49:56,371
♪

1287
00:49:56,371 --> 00:49:58,457
DJ TOOMP: <i>It's a lot of technology,
a lot of plugins,</i>

1288
00:49:58,457 --> 00:50:01,668
<i>a lot of different things that's really
enhancing the sound basically.</i>

1289
00:50:02,669 --> 00:50:05,214
DRUMMA BOY: <i>It's the producers
that are creating these new sounds,</i>

1290
00:50:05,214 --> 00:50:08,133
creating these new waves for new artists,

1291
00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:10,677
<i>really seeing the evolution.</i>

1292
00:50:10,677 --> 00:50:12,304
<i>And once you've seen the evolution,</i>

1293
00:50:12,304 --> 00:50:15,390
<i>you kinda can see
how it's gonna keep going.</i>

1294
00:50:16,099 --> 00:50:18,477
What I know of most of the jazz players

1295
00:50:18,477 --> 00:50:21,438
who are prolific and legendary,

1296
00:50:21,438 --> 00:50:23,357
they spent plenty of time in some traps.

1297
00:50:23,357 --> 00:50:25,067
[chuckles]
You know what I'm saying? So--

1298
00:50:26,443 --> 00:50:31,657
The drug dealer and the musician
has been synonymous

1299
00:50:31,657 --> 00:50:32,866
since the beginnin' of time.

1300
00:50:34,243 --> 00:50:38,622
YUNG JOC:
<i>It's a body of so much pain, struggle,</i>

1301
00:50:38,622 --> 00:50:41,333
<i>but at the same time, success.</i>

1302
00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:43,877
When you had people
like T.I. talking about stuff

1303
00:50:43,877 --> 00:50:45,212
he was going through,

1304
00:50:46,505 --> 00:50:49,258
and then at the same time
still talking about coming up,

1305
00:50:49,258 --> 00:50:50,634
it's not just gangster music.

1306
00:50:50,634 --> 00:50:52,427
I must live in left field somewhere.

1307
00:50:52,427 --> 00:50:55,097
I must be getting old. Trap.

1308
00:50:57,933 --> 00:51:00,435
Man, trap jazz,
I couldn't believe nobody was doing it.

1309
00:51:00,435 --> 00:51:02,145
Remind me of Kenny G.

1310
00:51:02,145 --> 00:51:04,314
Remember Kenny G would do
all Janet Jackson songs,

1311
00:51:04,314 --> 00:51:05,649
but he'd play it on his horn?

1312
00:51:05,649 --> 00:51:09,820
Well, I-I got a good, I got a good idea
why they probably don't do it.

1313
00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:12,239
There's a lot of, you know, the old,

1314
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,740
you know, I call 'em the foggie stogies.

1315
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:14,950
- CASSIUS: Okay.
- You know what I'm saying?

1316
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:17,661
They don't really want to mesh the two

1317
00:51:17,661 --> 00:51:22,457
because they feel like jazz is jazz,
is to be revered and respected as,

1318
00:51:22,457 --> 00:51:25,127
you know, jazz is j-just jazz.
CASSIUS: Right.

1319
00:51:25,127 --> 00:51:26,420
JAZZE PHA:
It has a certain class to it.

1320
00:51:26,420 --> 00:51:27,254
Yes.

1321
00:51:27,254 --> 00:51:28,714
Jazz is very classy.
CASSIUS: Right.

1322
00:51:28,714 --> 00:51:31,425
And so for, you know, some people,

1323
00:51:31,425 --> 00:51:34,970
a lot of "musicians and people,"
you know, might feel as classless.

1324
00:51:35,387 --> 00:51:38,265
<i>People might think that,
until they hear it,</i>

1325
00:51:38,265 --> 00:51:39,600
<i>and they feel it,</i>

1326
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,019
<i>and they see the effect
that it has on people.</i>

1327
00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:44,855
♪ light, poignant music playing ♪

1328
00:51:44,855 --> 00:51:46,732
♪

1329
00:51:46,732 --> 00:51:48,442
CHRIS:
<i>My first experience with jazz</i>

1330
00:51:48,442 --> 00:51:50,861
<i>was at Columbia High School
with Mr. Coln.</i>

1331
00:51:50,861 --> 00:51:52,237
♪

1332
00:51:52,237 --> 00:51:54,156
[school bell ringing]

1333
00:51:54,156 --> 00:51:56,158
♪

1334
00:51:56,158 --> 00:51:57,784
CHRIS:
<i>Those years was important I think.</i>

1335
00:51:57,784 --> 00:51:59,870
♪

1336
00:51:59,870 --> 00:52:01,330
<i>They really, like, molded me</i>

1337
00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:04,291
<i>and taught me how to
have my own discipline</i>

1338
00:52:04,291 --> 00:52:05,834
in learning music.

1339
00:52:05,834 --> 00:52:11,215
♪

1340
00:52:11,215 --> 00:52:15,552
Hey, Mr. Coln, aah!

1341
00:52:15,552 --> 00:52:16,720
Oh, my God.

1342
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,180
CHRIS:
How are you, man?

1343
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:19,848
- Good to see you.
- What's up, dawg?

1344
00:52:19,848 --> 00:52:22,059
Okay, now explain this trap thing to me.

1345
00:52:22,059 --> 00:52:24,561
CHRIS: Alright, so,
[clears throat] basically trap,

1346
00:52:24,561 --> 00:52:27,731
the trap part of it is, um,
is basically the hood,

1347
00:52:27,731 --> 00:52:31,735
you know, like growing up in the,
in the hood there's trap houses,

1348
00:52:31,735 --> 00:52:34,988
there's, you know, people talk,
the rappers talking about trap

1349
00:52:34,988 --> 00:52:37,991
like, okay, like selling drugs, you know,

1350
00:52:37,991 --> 00:52:41,870
you know, the-the pimps
and the prostitutes or whatever it is,

1351
00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:44,414
or whatever is going on
in the hood, you know, color--

1352
00:52:44,414 --> 00:52:45,958
What's the objective?

1353
00:52:45,958 --> 00:52:47,918
Um, the objective is to,

1354
00:52:47,918 --> 00:52:50,379
to provide the type of music
for everybody.

1355
00:52:50,379 --> 00:52:52,256
So now is this more instrumental?

1356
00:52:52,256 --> 00:52:53,131
CHRIS:
It's instrumental, yeah.

1357
00:52:53,131 --> 00:52:57,469
We got some, some artists
wanting to, you know, put dibs in on,

1358
00:52:57,469 --> 00:53:00,055
you know,
who the first rapper or singer is.

1359
00:53:00,055 --> 00:53:01,348
But it's clean?

1360
00:53:01,348 --> 00:53:03,725
It's clean,
but there'll probably be some,

1361
00:53:03,725 --> 00:53:05,561
you know, slightly dirty raunchy moments,

1362
00:53:05,561 --> 00:53:07,646
because we don't wanna leave that out.

1363
00:53:07,646 --> 00:53:11,024
It's a, it's a part of what's going on
in-in our world right now.

1364
00:53:11,024 --> 00:53:13,819
Okay, are, are these negative, degrading?

1365
00:53:13,819 --> 00:53:19,783
No. Um, I guess if you call, you know,
partying, having a good time, you know.

1366
00:53:19,783 --> 00:53:21,577
MR. COLN: You ain't referencing
no drugs or nothin' like that.

1367
00:53:21,577 --> 00:53:23,579
Nah, I wouldn't,
I wouldn't put drugs in there,

1368
00:53:23,579 --> 00:53:25,330
but I would definitely want the songs--

1369
00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:26,540
If somebody was to put lyrics on it,

1370
00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:29,918
I would want it to be about
living your life, having fun.

1371
00:53:29,918 --> 00:53:32,171
Yep, and we gotta keep jazz in there.

1372
00:53:32,171 --> 00:53:33,839
That's what I didn't
wanna leave out at all.

1373
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:35,424
And you can write this on paper now?

1374
00:53:35,424 --> 00:53:36,550
CHRIS:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1375
00:53:36,550 --> 00:53:38,510
[chuckles] We learned that,
yeah, we learned that in high school.

1376
00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:39,761
Okay, now.
CHRIS: We learned that.

1377
00:53:40,429 --> 00:53:42,181
Put it on paper, you know, okay.
CHRIS: Yeah, we put it on paper.

1378
00:53:42,181 --> 00:53:43,140
We could write it out.

1379
00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:45,309
MR. COLN:
<i>Chris was like a isolated person,</i>

1380
00:53:45,934 --> 00:53:47,811
and he was real quiet, laid back,

1381
00:53:47,811 --> 00:53:50,689
and I noticed him one day
he was banging on the piano,

1382
00:53:50,689 --> 00:53:52,983
and I'm going,
"Well, what are you playing?"

1383
00:53:52,983 --> 00:53:55,652
I was playing
Brian McKnight, um, <i>Anytime.</i>

1384
00:53:55,652 --> 00:53:57,738
♪ vocalizing ♪

1385
00:53:57,738 --> 00:54:00,282
The females be like,
"Oh, my God, this is my song!

1386
00:54:00,282 --> 00:54:01,366
Oh, my God, oh, my God."

1387
00:54:01,366 --> 00:54:02,409
They would come to the piano.

1388
00:54:02,409 --> 00:54:04,286
And he came up, he was like,

1389
00:54:04,286 --> 00:54:06,872
"Alright, Mr. Moten,
you feel like you wanna show off?

1390
00:54:06,872 --> 00:54:08,832
You think you this,
that and the other, alright."

1391
00:54:08,832 --> 00:54:13,003
And he put a blank piece
of staff paper in front of me

1392
00:54:13,003 --> 00:54:14,713
and he was like,
"Alright, since you think

1393
00:54:14,713 --> 00:54:16,715
"you're big and bad then," you know,

1394
00:54:17,132 --> 00:54:18,842
you know,
"Why don't you write out the last

1395
00:54:18,842 --> 00:54:20,511
four measures of what you played?"

1396
00:54:20,511 --> 00:54:21,678
What I told Chris, said, "Look.

1397
00:54:21,678 --> 00:54:23,597
"You know where the keys
are on the keyboards.

1398
00:54:23,597 --> 00:54:25,224
"You just gotta be able to transpose

1399
00:54:25,224 --> 00:54:27,476
what's on that paper
to what your fingers are doing."

1400
00:54:27,476 --> 00:54:30,103
I think I almost cried but I didn't.

1401
00:54:30,103 --> 00:54:31,355
I was mad though,

1402
00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:32,523
because even the girls,

1403
00:54:32,523 --> 00:54:35,108
it was looking like, [clicks tongue]
"Well, you can't write music,

1404
00:54:35,108 --> 00:54:36,818
you're not that fly," you know.

1405
00:54:36,818 --> 00:54:38,987
"You're not that dope,
you're not that cute."

1406
00:54:38,987 --> 00:54:42,324
From then on I started learning,
like, everything I could.

1407
00:54:42,324 --> 00:54:43,408
Let me hear some of this.

1408
00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:45,244
I got, like, my single
that you can hear.

1409
00:54:45,244 --> 00:54:46,828
<i>♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪</i>

1410
00:54:46,828 --> 00:54:48,997
<i>♪ Boot Up</i> by Cassius Jay playing ♪

1411
00:54:48,997 --> 00:54:50,374
♪ upbeat trumpet note plays ♪

1412
00:54:50,374 --> 00:54:51,208
This the melody.

1413
00:54:51,208 --> 00:54:54,002
♪

1414
00:54:54,002 --> 00:54:55,087
Still got the trap beat.

1415
00:54:55,087 --> 00:54:55,921
♪

1416
00:54:55,921 --> 00:54:58,549
Now this is not really jazzy,
but it's just a hint of it.

1417
00:54:58,549 --> 00:55:01,426
What about after that, that keyboard,
supposed to be a jazz mix?

1418
00:55:01,426 --> 00:55:04,054
That's my jazz mix,
but it symphs so we gonna keep it light.

1419
00:55:04,054 --> 00:55:04,888
MR. COLN:
Okay.

1420
00:55:04,888 --> 00:55:06,849
And then we're gonna
really go into the jazzin'.

1421
00:55:06,849 --> 00:55:10,686
Having the chance to show him
what I came up with,

1422
00:55:10,686 --> 00:55:13,730
and, like, you know, that was kinda scary.

1423
00:55:13,730 --> 00:55:16,775
♪ piano notes
and soft jazz tones playing ♪

1424
00:55:16,775 --> 00:55:18,277
Look at his face.

1425
00:55:18,277 --> 00:55:19,570
- [laughter]
- Wait a minute, now hold it.

1426
00:55:19,570 --> 00:55:21,113
- CHRIS: This me.
- This you?

1427
00:55:21,113 --> 00:55:23,198
♪ piano and percussion notes crescendo ♪

1428
00:55:23,198 --> 00:55:26,159
♪ tempo increases, recedes ♪

1429
00:55:26,785 --> 00:55:28,287
Man, blues changes, man.
CHRIS: Watch this.

1430
00:55:28,287 --> 00:55:31,123
♪ peppy dance jazz music playing ♪

1431
00:55:31,123 --> 00:55:31,999
We're not there yet.

1432
00:55:31,999 --> 00:55:32,833
♪

1433
00:55:32,833 --> 00:55:34,960
♪ Chris humming trombone notes ♪

1434
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,003
♪ fast-paced trombone
and light percussion music playing ♪

1435
00:55:36,003 --> 00:55:37,796
Those are all jazz mix playing.

1436
00:55:37,796 --> 00:55:39,339
[laughter]

1437
00:55:39,339 --> 00:55:40,174
Whoa!

1438
00:55:40,174 --> 00:55:41,508
Well done.

1439
00:55:41,508 --> 00:55:42,551
♪

1440
00:55:42,551 --> 00:55:44,970
Those are all jazz licks
that stay true to jazz.

1441
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:45,804
♪ upbeat trumpet note plays ♪

1442
00:55:45,804 --> 00:55:47,347
Now we go back to the,

1443
00:55:47,347 --> 00:55:50,809
two, three, four, one,
two, three, four. [laughs]

1444
00:55:50,809 --> 00:55:53,478
- One, two, three, four. One, hey.
- No, wait a minute.

1445
00:55:53,478 --> 00:55:56,857
And he was happy to know
that not only was I doing jazz,

1446
00:55:56,857 --> 00:55:59,735
but I'm doing something
that works in this era.

1447
00:55:59,735 --> 00:56:01,361
Anybody can listen to this, man.

1448
00:56:01,361 --> 00:56:02,404
- CHRIS: Anybody.
- It can go anywhere.

1449
00:56:02,404 --> 00:56:04,323
CHRIS: That's-that's
the biggest thing about it, man.

1450
00:56:04,323 --> 00:56:07,201
Be classy and still a little bit raunchy

1451
00:56:07,201 --> 00:56:08,744
- and hood a little bit, you know? [laughs]
- Yeah.

1452
00:56:09,536 --> 00:56:11,038
That will sell.
CHRIS: Yeah.

1453
00:56:11,038 --> 00:56:15,334
I really wanted to make sure
that the old heads would, like, approve.

1454
00:56:15,334 --> 00:56:17,419
It feels good for them to say,

1455
00:56:18,086 --> 00:56:19,254
"This is gonna work."

1456
00:56:19,254 --> 00:56:22,674
<i>♪ Boot Up</i> by Cassius Jay playing ♪

1457
00:56:22,674 --> 00:56:27,763
♪

1458
00:56:27,763 --> 00:56:31,892
I like the idea of almost
a little commercial things in there.

1459
00:56:31,892 --> 00:56:32,726
Yes. Yes.

1460
00:56:32,726 --> 00:56:35,687
- That'll keep you on your toes, you know.
- Yes, yeah.

1461
00:56:35,687 --> 00:56:38,315
JOHNNY KNAPP:
And then also you gotta get something

1462
00:56:38,315 --> 00:56:42,277
that can get into a groove
so that women dance.

1463
00:56:42,277 --> 00:56:43,111
Yes.

1464
00:56:43,111 --> 00:56:46,114
If women get involved,
guys get involved.

1465
00:56:46,114 --> 00:56:46,949
STIXX:
Yes, sir.

1466
00:56:46,949 --> 00:56:49,743
If there's a girl around,
there's a guy around.

1467
00:56:49,743 --> 00:56:53,539
- STIXX: Yes.
- And if the girl likes to dance to it,

1468
00:56:53,539 --> 00:56:54,540
then you're on your way.

1469
00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:55,999
[patrons cheering]

1470
00:56:55,999 --> 00:56:58,126
<i>♪ Boot Up</i> intro by Cassius Jay playing ♪

1471
00:56:58,126 --> 00:57:01,046
♪

1472
00:57:01,046 --> 00:57:04,508
♪ soft whistling ♪

1473
00:57:04,508 --> 00:57:06,426
♪

1474
00:57:06,426 --> 00:57:07,719
<i>♪ It's strip club music ♪</i>

1475
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:08,679
<i>♪ Gotta play Cassius ♪</i>

1476
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:13,350
♪

1477
00:57:13,350 --> 00:57:15,143
[cheering]

1478
00:57:15,143 --> 00:57:17,771
♪

1479
00:57:17,771 --> 00:57:20,357
CASSIUS: <i>Strippers play
a real big role in trap music</i>

1480
00:57:20,357 --> 00:57:22,234
<i>because without the strippers,</i>

1481
00:57:22,234 --> 00:57:24,194
<i>the DJs wouldn't even know
about certain songs.</i>

1482
00:57:24,695 --> 00:57:26,280
So, when I used to make trap music,

1483
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,906
first thing I used to do is get my song,

1484
00:57:27,906 --> 00:57:30,242
I mixed it, took it to the strip club

1485
00:57:30,242 --> 00:57:31,910
and all the strippers
started dancing to it.

1486
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:39,418
♪

1487
00:57:39,418 --> 00:57:43,172
<i>If you could get a girl
to shake that ass to your music,</i>

1488
00:57:43,172 --> 00:57:44,506
you got a hit.

1489
00:57:44,506 --> 00:57:45,674
♪

1490
00:57:45,674 --> 00:57:48,510
<i>That was weird to see them
dancing off</i> Boot Up at a strip club.

1491
00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:49,928
<i>But it was that trap shit.</i>

1492
00:57:50,345 --> 00:57:52,514
So it's like,
"Whoa, we got a hit then, goddamn,

1493
00:57:52,514 --> 00:57:53,599
we can run with this one."

1494
00:57:53,599 --> 00:58:05,986
♪

1495
00:58:05,986 --> 00:58:06,945
GUITARIST:
That has it.

1496
00:58:06,945 --> 00:58:07,988
♪ drumbeats ♪

1497
00:58:07,988 --> 00:58:09,531
This is the first,
this is the first time

1498
00:58:09,531 --> 00:58:10,699
everybody's about to play together.

1499
00:58:10,699 --> 00:58:13,827
♪

1500
00:58:13,827 --> 00:58:16,413
CHRIS:
<i>I'm definitely not prepared for Tuesday.</i>

1501
00:58:16,413 --> 00:58:17,664
We're prepared musically.

1502
00:58:17,664 --> 00:58:19,333
We know what we wanna do.

1503
00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:22,294
But the-the biggest preparation of all is

1504
00:58:22,294 --> 00:58:23,921
in the rehearsal.

1505
00:58:23,921 --> 00:58:25,005
Don't fuck around, man.

1506
00:58:25,005 --> 00:58:26,798
I'm not, I don't-- I don't bullshit.

1507
00:58:27,466 --> 00:58:28,717
I don't bullshit like that.

1508
00:58:29,301 --> 00:58:30,385
I don't bullshit like that.

1509
00:58:30,385 --> 00:58:34,264
So... so I'll do the first one,
you do the second one,

1510
00:58:34,264 --> 00:58:36,016
you can do the third one. Hey.

1511
00:58:36,016 --> 00:58:38,393
♪ playing fast-paced notes ♪

1512
00:58:38,393 --> 00:58:40,187
Right there. Right there.

1513
00:58:40,187 --> 00:58:41,230
Let's pace that right there.

1514
00:58:41,230 --> 00:58:45,317
♪ piano notes crescendo ♪

1515
00:58:45,317 --> 00:58:46,276
Ah, hey!

1516
00:58:46,276 --> 00:58:50,155
♪ notes grow louder ♪

1517
00:58:50,155 --> 00:58:50,989
Hey.

1518
00:58:50,989 --> 00:58:52,991
<i>I feel a little bit detached, like,</i>

1519
00:58:53,867 --> 00:58:58,288
you know, it's so hard to get
these guys in one room,

1520
00:58:58,288 --> 00:59:00,749
<i>one rehearsal, one stage.</i>

1521
00:59:00,749 --> 00:59:02,543
STIXX:
<i>Getting all the songs together,</i>

1522
00:59:02,543 --> 00:59:04,628
<i>arranging these songs,
getting all the material together,</i>

1523
00:59:04,628 --> 00:59:05,879
<i>getting the band together,</i>

1524
00:59:05,879 --> 00:59:09,132
still trying to do
whatever we have to do individually

1525
00:59:09,132 --> 00:59:11,218
<i>in between rehearsals
and make rehearsals work.</i>

1526
00:59:11,218 --> 00:59:13,554
<i>You know, setting up studio sessions,</i>

1527
00:59:13,554 --> 00:59:15,305
<i>trying to get ahold of Cassius, you know.</i>

1528
00:59:15,973 --> 00:59:18,058
<i>Getting his busy schedule,
getting my schedule,</i>

1529
00:59:18,058 --> 00:59:19,601
<i>getting Chris' schedule together,
you know.</i>

1530
00:59:19,601 --> 00:59:23,063
<i>Chris flying in and out
of the state doing tour shows</i>

1531
00:59:23,063 --> 00:59:25,482
<i>and preparing for this as well.</i>

1532
00:59:25,482 --> 00:59:26,483
It's a lot of stress

1533
00:59:26,483 --> 00:59:28,735
and, you know,
and a lot that comes with it.

1534
00:59:28,735 --> 00:59:30,362
<i>Five, six, seven, unh!</i>

1535
00:59:30,362 --> 00:59:34,908
♪

1536
00:59:34,908 --> 00:59:36,618
CHRIS:
<i>The magic is when we come together</i>

1537
00:59:36,618 --> 00:59:39,329
<i>and find the vibe
and the correct chemistry</i>

1538
00:59:39,329 --> 00:59:40,747
<i>to give 'em a great show.</i>

1539
00:59:40,747 --> 00:59:44,084
♪ high-pitched percussion music
joins guitar solo ♪

1540
00:59:44,084 --> 00:59:46,211
♪

1541
00:59:46,211 --> 00:59:47,713
♪ music ends ♪

1542
00:59:48,881 --> 00:59:50,424
♪

1543
00:59:50,424 --> 00:59:53,552
[indistinct conversations]
[laughter]

1544
00:59:53,552 --> 00:59:58,515
♪

1545
00:59:58,515 --> 01:00:00,601
FAN 1: <i>Man, I'm always down
to hear good live music.</i>

1546
01:00:00,601 --> 01:00:02,394
So just to hear some people's shit,

1547
01:00:02,394 --> 01:00:04,813
<i>it's always really inspiring to me.</i>

1548
01:00:04,813 --> 01:00:06,023
FAN 2:
<i>I'm here to see the band,</i>

1549
01:00:06,023 --> 01:00:07,774
I'm here to see Devon, really.

1550
01:00:07,774 --> 01:00:09,193
I wanna see them get down a little bit.

1551
01:00:09,985 --> 01:00:12,696
FAN 3: <i>Trap and jazz?
Okay, let's see what this is about.</i>

1552
01:00:12,696 --> 01:00:13,739
I mean, I really don't know.

1553
01:00:13,739 --> 01:00:15,741
These boys are some of
the most talented boys in the city.

1554
01:00:15,741 --> 01:00:19,328
♪

1555
01:00:19,328 --> 01:00:20,412
[people cheering]

1556
01:00:20,412 --> 01:00:22,497
♪

1557
01:00:22,497 --> 01:00:24,249
[indistinct chatter]

1558
01:00:24,249 --> 01:00:29,588
♪

1559
01:00:29,588 --> 01:00:30,714
[inaudible dialogue]

1560
01:00:30,714 --> 01:00:32,382
<i>How y'all feeling tonight, man?</i>

1561
01:00:32,382 --> 01:00:33,217
[crowd cheers]

1562
01:00:33,217 --> 01:00:34,885
<i>Yeah.</i>

1563
01:00:37,304 --> 01:00:39,056
♪ uplifting trombone music playing ♪

1564
01:00:39,056 --> 01:00:55,489
♪

1565
01:00:55,489 --> 01:00:57,991
♪ music intensifies ♪

1566
01:00:57,991 --> 01:01:02,663
♪

1567
01:01:02,663 --> 01:01:03,789
♪ rapid drumbeats ♪

1568
01:01:03,789 --> 01:01:05,666
♪ maracas join music ♪

1569
01:01:05,666 --> 01:01:10,170
♪

1570
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:11,839
♪ fast-paced piano notes join music ♪

1571
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:14,550
♪ powerful drumbeating ♪

1572
01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:27,980
♪

1573
01:01:27,980 --> 01:01:29,314
♪ jazzy trombone notes join music ♪

1574
01:01:29,314 --> 01:01:30,899
[loud boom, electricity surges]
♪ music stops ♪

1575
01:01:30,899 --> 01:01:32,192
[indistinct yelling]

1576
01:01:32,192 --> 01:01:33,986
CHRIS [on microphone]:
<i>Yeah, and we already knew it,</i>

1577
01:01:33,986 --> 01:01:35,487
<i>and we already knew it,</i>

1578
01:01:35,904 --> 01:01:37,573
<i>and we already knew it,</i>

1579
01:01:38,323 --> 01:01:39,867
<i>and we already knew it.</i>

1580
01:01:39,867 --> 01:01:40,951
♪ upbeat drum music plays ♪

1581
01:01:40,951 --> 01:01:42,327
♪ music fades ♪

1582
01:01:42,327 --> 01:01:44,997
[indistinct chatter]

1583
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,041
STIXX:
<i>Stuff wasn't right.</i>

1584
01:01:48,041 --> 01:01:50,169
<i>We still didn't have, like,
a lot of the songs together.</i>

1585
01:01:50,169 --> 01:01:52,629
<i>Like, we still having patch issues</i>

1586
01:01:52,629 --> 01:01:54,882
and power issues and shit like that.

1587
01:01:54,882 --> 01:01:57,384
♪ loud uplifting trombone music playing ♪

1588
01:01:57,384 --> 01:01:59,887
<i>That sounds like the loudest it's been.</i>

1589
01:01:59,887 --> 01:02:02,139
♪ percussion trilling ♪

1590
01:02:02,139 --> 01:02:03,307
CASSIUS:
<i>Chris got his own mind.</i>

1591
01:02:03,891 --> 01:02:05,559
<i>That night I kept saying,</i>

1592
01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:08,187
"Chris, like you see this shit fucking up,

1593
01:02:08,187 --> 01:02:09,521
let's go to the next song."

1594
01:02:10,272 --> 01:02:11,565
<i>So I get irritated.</i>

1595
01:02:11,565 --> 01:02:12,774
<i>He know I get irritated.</i>

1596
01:02:12,774 --> 01:02:13,650
<i>I'll be ready to fight.</i>

1597
01:02:13,650 --> 01:02:15,027
<i>Like, man, I'm finna
pop you in your mouth, bro,</i>

1598
01:02:15,027 --> 01:02:16,069
<i>if you don't listen to me.</i>

1599
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:18,488
<i>Which I won't do it
because he's my brother and I love him,</i>

1600
01:02:18,488 --> 01:02:20,657
but he irritates the fuck outta me.

1601
01:02:21,825 --> 01:02:25,996
CHRIS: <i>I don't remember much about
the beginning of that actually.</i>

1602
01:02:25,996 --> 01:02:28,790
<i>I don't. I was, like,
having fun, I was lit,</i>

1603
01:02:28,790 --> 01:02:31,210
<i>so I was outta there, like--</i>

1604
01:02:31,210 --> 01:02:32,920
[laughing] Chris was lit.

1605
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,881
That's why we was frustrated, too.

1606
01:02:35,881 --> 01:02:38,550
'Cause that nigga was so lit, bro.

1607
01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:40,469
Devon says Chris looked at him,

1608
01:02:40,469 --> 01:02:44,223
and says, "Devon give me a-a-a drumbeat."

1609
01:02:44,681 --> 01:02:46,767
And says,
"Chris, start rolling up a blunt."

1610
01:02:46,767 --> 01:02:48,477
[laughs]

1611
01:02:49,853 --> 01:02:52,231
<i>Y'all make noise,
real quick, make some noise.</i>

1612
01:02:52,231 --> 01:02:54,900
♪ upbeat music playing ♪

1613
01:02:54,900 --> 01:03:01,114
♪

1614
01:03:01,114 --> 01:03:03,659
[indistinct yelling]

1615
01:03:03,659 --> 01:03:05,786
<i>Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!</i>

1616
01:03:07,287 --> 01:03:08,664
- [audience whooping]
<i>- What's up, guys?</i>

1617
01:03:08,664 --> 01:03:09,414
<i>Y'all make some noise.</i>

1618
01:03:09,414 --> 01:03:10,499
<i>Make some noise. Make some noise.</i>

1619
01:03:10,499 --> 01:03:12,376
[audience cheering]

1620
01:03:14,044 --> 01:03:18,507
<i>So, let's go back to the repeat.</i>

1621
01:03:19,591 --> 01:03:22,845
<i>Go out-- Jordan, I need
something from Jordan.</i>

1622
01:03:22,845 --> 01:03:24,471
[sings] <i>♪ Bye, bye ♪</i>

1623
01:03:24,471 --> 01:03:26,431
<i>You, shot.</i>

1624
01:03:26,431 --> 01:03:27,307
<i>Jordan.</i>

1625
01:03:27,307 --> 01:03:30,018
STIXX:
<i>Chris treated it like a live recording.</i>

1626
01:03:30,018 --> 01:03:31,979
You know, every time he heard
something wrong he was like,

1627
01:03:31,979 --> 01:03:33,188
"Nope, come on, man.

1628
01:03:33,188 --> 01:03:34,940
You know we taping,
we gotta get it right."

1629
01:03:35,732 --> 01:03:37,568
<i>Oh, yeah, it, it was a lot of frustration.</i>

1630
01:03:37,568 --> 01:03:40,779
<i>The frustration came from everybody
losing sight of the music.</i>

1631
01:03:40,779 --> 01:03:43,866
♪ intense drum music playing ♪

1632
01:03:43,866 --> 01:03:46,410
<i>Ready for the singing, man?
Sing, sing. Go ahead.</i>

1633
01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:49,705
♪ intense drum music playing ♪

1634
01:03:49,705 --> 01:04:07,181
♪

1635
01:04:07,181 --> 01:04:08,265
[people cheering]

1636
01:04:08,265 --> 01:04:09,641
CASSIUS:
<i>We all had a conversation afterwards</i>

1637
01:04:10,184 --> 01:04:11,685
and we all shared our opinions,

1638
01:04:12,436 --> 01:04:14,229
and me and Devon was on the same page.

1639
01:04:15,022 --> 01:04:17,149
Chris, "You guys sound amazing."

1640
01:04:17,149 --> 01:04:18,275
That's what he said to me.

1641
01:04:18,275 --> 01:04:19,443
[laughs]

1642
01:04:19,443 --> 01:04:21,153
"You guys sound amazing."

1643
01:04:21,153 --> 01:04:22,738
That nigga Devon's like, "Nah."

1644
01:04:23,363 --> 01:04:26,158
When you see me smiling,
that's me smiling,

1645
01:04:26,158 --> 01:04:29,369
some of it's frustration but some of it's
just me looking at my brother like,

1646
01:04:29,369 --> 01:04:31,663
"This is a hard head joker right here."

1647
01:04:31,663 --> 01:04:33,498
But I love him, what can I do?

1648
01:04:33,498 --> 01:04:38,921
♪ light music playing ♪

1649
01:04:38,921 --> 01:04:40,881
♪

1650
01:04:40,881 --> 01:04:42,090
STIXX:
<i>Man, listen, man,</i>

1651
01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:44,760
<i>I've been waiting for Chris
for about 30 minutes.</i>

1652
01:04:45,260 --> 01:04:47,095
Listen, I'm about to get y'all--

1653
01:04:47,095 --> 01:04:48,764
Look, me and Cassius,

1654
01:04:48,764 --> 01:04:51,475
we about to call Chris one more time, man.

1655
01:04:51,475 --> 01:04:53,602
He probably ain't even gonna answer.

1656
01:04:53,602 --> 01:04:54,478
[line ringing]

1657
01:04:54,478 --> 01:04:55,812
STIXX:
He gonna text me back like, "I'm on--"

1658
01:04:55,812 --> 01:04:57,022
CASSIUS:
You know he a pretty boy.

1659
01:04:57,022 --> 01:05:00,651
STIXX: Of course. You know he gonna
take a hour to get ready.

1660
01:05:00,651 --> 01:05:01,902
[ringing continues]

1661
01:05:04,321 --> 01:05:05,697
Nothing.

1662
01:05:05,697 --> 01:05:07,574
And he came. [laughs]

1663
01:05:07,574 --> 01:05:09,034
CASSIUS: And he gonna
try come in with water and shit.

1664
01:05:09,034 --> 01:05:11,036
STIXX: Look at him.
Wait, with cookie? [laughs]

1665
01:05:11,036 --> 01:05:12,454
Hungry, boy.
STIXX: What's up, bro?

1666
01:05:12,454 --> 01:05:13,580
- How you doing?
- Straight.

1667
01:05:13,580 --> 01:05:14,957
- What up, baby?
- What up, bro? You good?

1668
01:05:14,957 --> 01:05:15,916
- Yeah, bro.
- Good to see you.

1669
01:05:15,916 --> 01:05:16,917
Good to see you, too, nigga.

1670
01:05:18,001 --> 01:05:19,628
All good?
STIXX: Yeah.

1671
01:05:20,170 --> 01:05:21,338
So what y'all out here talking about?

1672
01:05:21,338 --> 01:05:23,507
STIXX: Damn, you,
and David being late. [laughs]

1673
01:05:23,507 --> 01:05:24,383
I was asleep, man.

1674
01:05:24,383 --> 01:05:26,718
STIXX:
What's up, man? What we doing, man?

1675
01:05:26,718 --> 01:05:28,011
What we gotta do to put this project out?

1676
01:05:28,011 --> 01:05:31,181
Cassius is trying to
drop it on December 30th,

1677
01:05:31,181 --> 01:05:32,724
whether we like it or not.

1678
01:05:32,724 --> 01:05:34,685
That's cool, 'cause I wanna
do a show in Atlanta.

1679
01:05:34,685 --> 01:05:36,395
They kept asking me
why the album ain't done. I tried askin'--

1680
01:05:36,395 --> 01:05:37,437
STIXX:
They kept asking both of us,

1681
01:05:37,437 --> 01:05:39,439
"What's-what's, what's taking so long?"
Like, you feel me?

1682
01:05:39,439 --> 01:05:40,941
- Oh. So--
- Like, yeah, that's what--

1683
01:05:40,941 --> 01:05:42,609
Like, fans wanna know
where the album at.

1684
01:05:42,609 --> 01:05:44,695
I'm pretty sure
that the guys in the band

1685
01:05:44,695 --> 01:05:46,071
believe in Trap-- Trap Jazz,

1686
01:05:46,071 --> 01:05:48,240
but I'm pretty sure
outside of me, us three,

1687
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,826
it's not one of them that got
their heart and soul...

1688
01:05:50,826 --> 01:05:52,411
- STIXX: It's not priority.
- ...attached to it. Yeah.

1689
01:05:52,411 --> 01:05:53,662
CHRIS:
I cannot ask them

1690
01:05:53,662 --> 01:05:55,998
to always come to the studio for free.

1691
01:05:55,998 --> 01:05:57,207
- STIXX: No.
- You know, I'll wait for them.

1692
01:05:57,207 --> 01:05:58,709
Devon and I can.

1693
01:05:58,709 --> 01:05:59,543
I know he--

1694
01:05:59,543 --> 01:06:02,796
It's a different,
it's a different motivation in him

1695
01:06:02,796 --> 01:06:04,339
to-to make Trap Jazz happen.

1696
01:06:04,339 --> 01:06:07,342
And so Trap Jazz
ain't paying no $500 a day

1697
01:06:07,342 --> 01:06:10,429
to pay they thousand dollar rent
and $200 cell phone

1698
01:06:10,429 --> 01:06:12,264
and keep them fly every day,

1699
01:06:12,264 --> 01:06:15,100
then, you know, we gotta do what we
gotta do till we get there, you know.

1700
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,728
Okay, well, Cassius is saying
you just play everything yourself.

1701
01:06:17,728 --> 01:06:19,229
Play guitar and play horns yourself.

1702
01:06:19,229 --> 01:06:20,814
Nah, we can get guitar,
but horns and shit.

1703
01:06:20,814 --> 01:06:21,648
We gotta get out of guitar.

1704
01:06:21,648 --> 01:06:22,733
- Alright, we'll just get horn.
- Yeah, we can do that, too.

1705
01:06:22,733 --> 01:06:23,984
- You just play the horns yourself.
- Or maybe, maybe sax.

1706
01:06:23,984 --> 01:06:24,860
I know you can do horns.

1707
01:06:24,860 --> 01:06:28,071
I need three days at the studio,
time paid for, that's it.

1708
01:06:28,071 --> 01:06:29,198
And you gonna be there or nah?

1709
01:06:29,198 --> 01:06:31,450
Hell, yeah,
you talking about eight hours.

1710
01:06:32,618 --> 01:06:33,744
I'd know if I call Chris like,

1711
01:06:33,744 --> 01:06:35,871
"Chris, let's go make some beats."

1712
01:06:35,871 --> 01:06:37,372
Chris not gonna show up.

1713
01:06:37,372 --> 01:06:39,166
He's gonna have an excuse or something.

1714
01:06:39,166 --> 01:06:41,585
I know my brother so I let him be him.

1715
01:06:41,585 --> 01:06:43,545
I respect him,
you notice I don't bother Chris.

1716
01:06:43,545 --> 01:06:46,840
I let, I let Chris be Chris
and I just do as much as I can for him.

1717
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,674
I support him.

1718
01:06:47,674 --> 01:06:51,094
I think I take it more seriously
than I should sometimes.

1719
01:06:51,094 --> 01:06:53,555
You know, like getting mad
that certain things is not happening

1720
01:06:53,555 --> 01:06:57,726
and, like, sometimes
I sit back and be crying, you know.

1721
01:06:57,726 --> 01:06:59,520
Because I'm thinking like, nigga, I'm 30--

1722
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,271
How come you don't never share
this frustration with me though?

1723
01:07:01,271 --> 01:07:02,523
I'm 32.

1724
01:07:02,523 --> 01:07:03,982
'Cause like it's-it's a matter of like--

1725
01:07:03,982 --> 01:07:05,901
You know, how we--
You know, where we came from.

1726
01:07:05,901 --> 01:07:06,777
You know.

1727
01:07:06,777 --> 01:07:08,654
My dad, your dad,
you know what they taught us.

1728
01:07:08,654 --> 01:07:09,530
- Right.
- You know what I'm saying?

1729
01:07:09,530 --> 01:07:10,614
We ain't no pussies,

1730
01:07:10,614 --> 01:07:11,782
we ain't no cry babies.

1731
01:07:11,782 --> 01:07:14,701
♪ light music playing ♪

1732
01:07:14,701 --> 01:07:16,954
♪

1733
01:07:18,205 --> 01:07:20,541
<i>I'm capable of letting people down,</i>

1734
01:07:20,541 --> 01:07:22,584
<i>and I didn't like the way
that it felt at all,</i>

1735
01:07:24,169 --> 01:07:26,088
<i>because I remember what it felt like, too.</i>

1736
01:07:26,088 --> 01:07:28,632
♪

1737
01:07:28,632 --> 01:07:31,552
With me and-and my father it was love.

1738
01:07:31,552 --> 01:07:34,596
I trusted him that his love
was gonna, gonna be there.

1739
01:07:34,596 --> 01:07:37,599
♪

1740
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:41,228
<i>I always sat with him
at church on the organ.</i>

1741
01:07:41,228 --> 01:07:42,729
<i>I sat right next to him.</i>

1742
01:07:43,647 --> 01:07:44,481
I wanted to be like him.

1743
01:07:44,481 --> 01:07:47,442
And the fact that I was playing like him
and sounded like him,

1744
01:07:47,442 --> 01:07:49,611
it really made me feel like
that was more of why,

1745
01:07:49,611 --> 01:07:52,906
<i>you know, God chose him to
be my father and me to be his son</i>

1746
01:07:52,906 --> 01:07:55,576
<i>is that we have the same type of calling.</i>

1747
01:07:55,576 --> 01:07:58,704
♪

1748
01:07:58,704 --> 01:08:00,414
I do remember being confused

1749
01:08:00,414 --> 01:08:03,458
and... and lashing out and sometimes,

1750
01:08:03,458 --> 01:08:06,587
and being, you know, outta control,

1751
01:08:06,587 --> 01:08:10,174
and... um,

1752
01:08:10,174 --> 01:08:12,593
you know, disrespecting my mother and--

1753
01:08:13,177 --> 01:08:15,846
Uh, but I was definitely angry that,

1754
01:08:17,181 --> 01:08:19,016
you know, my father wasn't there.

1755
01:08:19,975 --> 01:08:20,976
[clears throat]

1756
01:08:22,561 --> 01:08:24,521
Uh, 'cause you, yeah,
you want your father there, you know.

1757
01:08:24,521 --> 01:08:25,606
You want him to be there.

1758
01:08:26,398 --> 01:08:28,734
Um, so why he would lie and say

1759
01:08:29,401 --> 01:08:30,736
he's gonna be there if he's not?

1760
01:08:33,071 --> 01:08:35,324
Uh, that's pretty fucked up way to feel,

1761
01:08:36,116 --> 01:08:38,660
especially for your hero.

1762
01:08:39,369 --> 01:08:40,454
So who's next, you know?

1763
01:08:40,454 --> 01:08:41,830
Who else will I lose like that?

1764
01:08:41,830 --> 01:08:43,832
♪

1765
01:08:43,832 --> 01:08:47,878
<i>That'll send you down a, a dark road</i>

1766
01:08:47,878 --> 01:08:49,922
<i>of beating yourself up</i>

1767
01:08:51,089 --> 01:08:55,052
<i>and, um, really refusing
to try something else</i>

1768
01:08:55,052 --> 01:08:56,386
<i>and try to go back at it.</i>

1769
01:08:56,386 --> 01:09:00,265
♪

1770
01:09:00,265 --> 01:09:02,726
♪ gentle piano music playing ♪

1771
01:09:02,726 --> 01:09:04,728
NEWSCASTER:
<i>His father was not around</i>

1772
01:09:04,728 --> 01:09:06,605
<i>when Christopher was a child...</i>

1773
01:09:06,605 --> 01:09:07,856
♪

1774
01:09:07,856 --> 01:09:10,567
<i>...and the family went through
years of intense hardship.</i>

1775
01:09:10,567 --> 01:09:18,283
♪

1776
01:09:18,283 --> 01:09:19,660
CHRIS' MOM:
<i>To watch Chris</i>

1777
01:09:20,369 --> 01:09:22,788
<i>go through the things
that he went through</i>

1778
01:09:23,956 --> 01:09:26,333
<i>as his mom I didn't wanna see that.</i>

1779
01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:27,584
<i>I didn't know what to give him.</i>

1780
01:09:27,584 --> 01:09:28,544
You know?

1781
01:09:28,544 --> 01:09:31,713
And sometimes he would just say,
"Just say a prayer."

1782
01:09:32,756 --> 01:09:38,136
♪

1783
01:09:38,136 --> 01:09:39,555
[thunder cracks]

1784
01:09:39,555 --> 01:09:41,598
CHRIS: <i>You know, some of that love
that I'm supposed to be experiencing</i>

1785
01:09:41,598 --> 01:09:42,975
<i>with my father is not happening.</i>

1786
01:09:42,975 --> 01:09:47,312
♪

1787
01:09:47,312 --> 01:09:49,982
<i>I just held it in a lot, you know?</i>

1788
01:09:49,982 --> 01:09:52,442
<i>'Cause there was no way to deal with it.</i>

1789
01:09:52,442 --> 01:09:53,944
[sound of a record scratching]

1790
01:09:53,944 --> 01:09:57,489
CHRIS: <i>Can't fix it,
can't change it, so just let it be.</i>

1791
01:09:57,489 --> 01:10:00,701
♪ piano music playing ♪

1792
01:10:00,701 --> 01:10:01,994
<i>I'm not gonna let nobody see that.</i>

1793
01:10:01,994 --> 01:10:04,204
<i>I'm not gonna let anybody
experience that part of me.</i>

1794
01:10:04,204 --> 01:10:06,623
<i>Uh, you're not gonna be able
to manipulate that.</i>

1795
01:10:06,623 --> 01:10:09,001
♪

1796
01:10:09,001 --> 01:10:11,044
You're not gonna be able
to know my downfalls

1797
01:10:11,044 --> 01:10:12,629
and know my anger and my issues

1798
01:10:12,629 --> 01:10:14,756
<i>and then use it against me.</i>

1799
01:10:15,215 --> 01:10:16,258
♪

1800
01:10:16,258 --> 01:10:17,885
CHRIS' MOM [voice breaking]:
<i>I know that sometimes,</i>

1801
01:10:18,969 --> 01:10:20,220
as human beings,

1802
01:10:20,220 --> 01:10:21,847
we have to go through some things

1803
01:10:22,973 --> 01:10:24,558
<i>to cause us to be stronger,</i>

1804
01:10:25,392 --> 01:10:27,811
<i>to cause us to think differently.</i>

1805
01:10:28,896 --> 01:10:32,441
<i>It's hard to see
when it's your child going through,</i>

1806
01:10:32,441 --> 01:10:34,776
<i>but I know that it's all in his making.</i>

1807
01:10:34,776 --> 01:10:36,653
♪

1808
01:10:36,653 --> 01:10:38,864
CASSIUS: <i>I told Chris,
"Chris, you need to learn how to follow."</i>

1809
01:10:38,864 --> 01:10:40,699
<i>I said, "You don't listen."</i>

1810
01:10:40,699 --> 01:10:44,286
<i>They always say that to be a great leader,</i>

1811
01:10:44,286 --> 01:10:46,079
<i>you gotta be a great follower.</i>

1812
01:10:46,496 --> 01:10:51,502
I don't know nobody Chris has followed.

1813
01:10:51,502 --> 01:10:54,129
♪

1814
01:10:54,129 --> 01:10:55,923
<i>Chris is in his own world.</i>

1815
01:10:55,923 --> 01:10:57,299
<i>He is a hell of a musician,</i>

1816
01:10:57,299 --> 01:10:59,301
<i>but he-he gotta learn how to follow first.</i>

1817
01:10:59,301 --> 01:11:15,442
♪

1818
01:11:16,944 --> 01:11:18,028
♪ dramatic finish ♪

1819
01:11:20,614 --> 01:11:26,411
♪ jazzy trumpet music playing ♪

1820
01:11:26,411 --> 01:11:29,790
♪

1821
01:11:29,790 --> 01:11:30,749
CHIEF XIAN:
Mm.

1822
01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:33,710
CHRIS:
Yah! What's up, man?

1823
01:11:33,710 --> 01:11:34,795
What's up? How are you, man?

1824
01:11:34,795 --> 01:11:36,839
Christian Scott, I've been following him

1825
01:11:36,839 --> 01:11:39,508
for probably like two years,
um, had never met him.

1826
01:11:39,508 --> 01:11:42,719
He's very sensitive to what he's playing,

1827
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:44,805
and he doesn't just spit out a note

1828
01:11:44,805 --> 01:11:47,641
<i>just, just to have sound or just to play,</i>

1829
01:11:47,641 --> 01:11:48,976
<i>which I do a lot.</i>

1830
01:11:48,976 --> 01:11:51,228
<i>And some other people,
we, we are still learning to do that.</i>

1831
01:11:51,228 --> 01:11:53,522
<i>I would definitely take
something like that from him</i>

1832
01:11:53,522 --> 01:11:58,610
and, uh, that makes him to me
a really, really great, um, musician,

1833
01:11:58,610 --> 01:12:00,779
a strong force in the industry.

1834
01:12:00,779 --> 01:12:01,822
<i>Yeah, what did you hear?</i>

1835
01:12:02,364 --> 01:12:04,324
Well, so I was on YouTube
and saw some clips there.

1836
01:12:04,324 --> 01:12:06,243
- Okay, so probably like <i>Boot Up.</i>
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1837
01:12:06,243 --> 01:12:09,162
- Mm-hmm.
- Maybe <i>Red,</i> that's all stuff--

1838
01:12:09,162 --> 01:12:10,163
No, <i>Boot Up,</i> definitely.

1839
01:12:10,163 --> 01:12:11,415
<i>- Boot Up,</i> definitely?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

1840
01:12:11,415 --> 01:12:12,249
What you think about it?

1841
01:12:12,249 --> 01:12:14,251
Man, it's dope,
but what you doing is like,

1842
01:12:14,251 --> 01:12:16,003
for me it's really important
in this moment.

1843
01:12:16,003 --> 01:12:17,588
- Yeah.
- To-to show the synergy

1844
01:12:17,588 --> 01:12:20,090
between those cultural spaces
within a cultural space.

1845
01:12:20,090 --> 01:12:21,675
- Yes. Yes, absolutely.
- You get what I'm saying?

1846
01:12:21,675 --> 01:12:24,636
I think a lot of times
people when they-they think of, um,

1847
01:12:24,636 --> 01:12:28,015
you know, what's going on right now
in the, the newer movement,

1848
01:12:28,015 --> 01:12:30,392
they like to separate those cultures as if

1849
01:12:30,392 --> 01:12:32,519
- they're like mutually exclusive things.
- Yes.

1850
01:12:32,519 --> 01:12:34,855
- Right.
- And, um, and it's the same people.

1851
01:12:34,855 --> 01:12:38,400
So, so finding a way to sort of
to speak through generations

1852
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,736
and context within a culture
is really important.

1853
01:12:40,736 --> 01:12:42,154
So I'm glad about what you're doing.

1854
01:12:42,154 --> 01:12:46,700
When I listen to trap music,
and I listen to Elvin Jones,

1855
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:48,452
I can hear that those rhythms,

1856
01:12:48,452 --> 01:12:50,913
all of those things
are West African rhythms.

1857
01:12:50,913 --> 01:12:55,042
To me I know
that ancestral recall exists, right?

1858
01:12:55,042 --> 01:12:55,876
That's a real thing.

1859
01:12:55,876 --> 01:12:57,544
It's more than the color of your eyes

1860
01:12:57,544 --> 01:12:59,546
that's being rewritten
when you're brought here.

1861
01:12:59,546 --> 01:13:01,798
This is why people that were denied

1862
01:13:01,798 --> 01:13:03,634
the ability to play drums

1863
01:13:03,634 --> 01:13:06,887
still ended up being
so rhythmic 300, 400 years later.

1864
01:13:07,429 --> 01:13:10,516
♪ playing <i>Boot Up</i> on piano ♪

1865
01:13:10,516 --> 01:13:12,142
♪

1866
01:13:12,142 --> 01:13:13,769
CHIEF XIAN:
And then <i>Summertime</i> was like--

1867
01:13:13,769 --> 01:13:15,187
♪

1868
01:13:15,187 --> 01:13:18,273
♪ trumpet playing <i>Summertime</i>
joins piano ♪

1869
01:13:18,273 --> 01:13:44,508
♪

1870
01:13:44,508 --> 01:13:46,093
So it's all about these,
these two chords.

1871
01:13:46,093 --> 01:13:47,261
CHIEF XIAN:
Mm-hmm.

1872
01:13:47,261 --> 01:13:53,225
♪

1873
01:13:53,225 --> 01:13:55,352
Right. Exactly, right here. [laughs]
CHRIS: Yeah.

1874
01:13:55,352 --> 01:14:13,245
♪

1875
01:14:13,245 --> 01:14:14,079
Yeah.

1876
01:14:14,079 --> 01:14:17,499
♪

1877
01:14:17,499 --> 01:14:18,876
That's crazy.
PRODUCER: That's crazy.

1878
01:14:18,876 --> 01:14:19,710
That's sick.
CHRIS: Fuck!

1879
01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:21,378
But I mean-- Right?

1880
01:14:21,378 --> 01:14:22,296
So, so, so--
CHRIS: Damn it!

1881
01:14:22,296 --> 01:14:24,673
CHIEF XIAN: So the thing is,
I mean what we use all-- <i>Summertime</i> as a--

1882
01:14:24,673 --> 01:14:26,550
- We ain't lost nothing.
- As an example.

1883
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:28,844
The synergy between those spaces,

1884
01:14:28,844 --> 01:14:31,221
you don't have to look hard
to find those things

1885
01:14:31,221 --> 01:14:33,390
'cause the-the-the
cultural expression is still--

1886
01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:34,850
- Still there.
- It's still the same culture.

1887
01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:38,020
♪ trumpet music playing ♪

1888
01:14:38,020 --> 01:14:40,397
CHRIS: <i>I wanted everybody
to be able to play this music.</i>

1889
01:14:40,397 --> 01:14:41,773
<i>It's more of an idea,</i>

1890
01:14:41,773 --> 01:14:44,484
<i>a movement for everybody to cling to</i>

1891
01:14:44,484 --> 01:14:49,031
<i>because we've always been
a part of the blues, gospel,</i>

1892
01:14:49,031 --> 01:14:52,492
<i>turning into jazz
and to rock and roll and to pop music,</i>

1893
01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:54,870
<i>rap, hip-hop, music all over the world.</i>

1894
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:57,581
We need to be able to connect,

1895
01:14:57,581 --> 01:15:00,417
and everybody has their own idea

1896
01:15:00,417 --> 01:15:03,337
<i>of how they want to contribute
their music to the world.</i>

1897
01:15:03,962 --> 01:15:05,047
And this is just mine.

1898
01:15:05,047 --> 01:15:06,256
♪

1899
01:15:06,256 --> 01:15:07,799
♪ high-pitched trumpet music playing ♪

1900
01:15:07,799 --> 01:15:22,793
♪

1901
01:15:25,150 --> 01:15:29,071
♪

1902
01:15:32,741 --> 01:15:34,159
CHRIS:
I just found out we going on first,

1903
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:35,869
so we gotta light that bitch up, bro.

1904
01:15:35,869 --> 01:15:36,828
[Stixx speaking]

1905
01:15:38,163 --> 01:15:38,997
We gotta light it up.

1906
01:15:41,291 --> 01:15:43,544
CHRIS: I think it'll be an explosion
if we do it first, like--

1907
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,508
It'll be clean tight and then hit 'em.

1908
01:15:50,384 --> 01:15:55,514
<i>We received a call to play
for Quincy's tribute in LA.</i>

1909
01:15:55,514 --> 01:15:57,724
<i>The call was crazy because prior to that</i>

1910
01:15:57,724 --> 01:16:01,478
I was working on two or three
of Quincy Jones' songs,

1911
01:16:01,478 --> 01:16:04,898
and I was going to trap them out
like I did the other ones.

1912
01:16:04,898 --> 01:16:06,775
<i>So, uh, when he called and he said,</i>

1913
01:16:06,775 --> 01:16:08,777
<i>"Man, just take some of his songs.
Just do what you do."</i>

1914
01:16:08,777 --> 01:16:10,988
<i>That was already crazy 'cause it lined up,</i>

1915
01:16:10,988 --> 01:16:12,656
<i>again, just like do what you love,</i>

1916
01:16:12,656 --> 01:16:15,325
stay at it 'cause these opportunities
might just catch you

1917
01:16:15,325 --> 01:16:16,159
in the right time.

1918
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:18,495
STIXX:
<i>It's gonna be an amazing time</i>

1919
01:16:18,495 --> 01:16:21,582
<i>because we mixing
our stuff with his music,</i>

1920
01:16:21,582 --> 01:16:22,833
so it's gonna be cool.

1921
01:16:22,833 --> 01:16:26,503
Like, to do like, all of his hits,
but put our own spin on it,

1922
01:16:26,503 --> 01:16:27,671
<i>which is the Trap Jazz.</i>

1923
01:16:28,672 --> 01:16:29,548
CHRIS:
<i>If you know me,</i>

1924
01:16:29,548 --> 01:16:32,467
<i>you know Quincy is like my favorite
from the beginning.</i>

1925
01:16:32,467 --> 01:16:35,846
<i>Just being in high school
and knowing that he was like,</i>

1926
01:16:35,846 --> 01:16:38,015
<i>the greatest musician
in the world, really.</i>

1927
01:16:39,558 --> 01:16:42,269
Oh, yeah, Mr. Coln used to
always hype him up.

1928
01:16:42,269 --> 01:16:44,313
I mean, he talked about
a lot of other musicians,

1929
01:16:44,313 --> 01:16:46,023
but it seemed like
when he wanted us to, like,

1930
01:16:46,857 --> 01:16:48,984
really be inspired by somebody,

1931
01:16:50,194 --> 01:16:52,154
uh, he would always use Quincy.

1932
01:16:52,154 --> 01:16:56,742
Movies, TV, um, pop music,

1933
01:16:56,742 --> 01:16:59,369
jazz, old school, Frank Sinatra.

1934
01:16:59,369 --> 01:17:00,913
Like, damn!

1935
01:17:00,913 --> 01:17:02,664
How much was you working every day?

1936
01:17:02,664 --> 01:17:06,376
♪ playing hip-hop music ♪

1937
01:17:06,376 --> 01:17:07,669
CASSIUS:
<i>I'm excited about it.</i>

1938
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:11,089
Earlier I watched
the Quincy Jones documentary,

1939
01:17:11,089 --> 01:17:13,592
and got inspired to see
how much work he had done done

1940
01:17:13,592 --> 01:17:15,719
in such little time.

1941
01:17:15,719 --> 01:17:18,180
<i>It made me wanna go back
to doing the trap jazz.</i>

1942
01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:19,640
<i>So Trap Jazz is--</i>

1943
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,769
<i>it wasn't paying me no money
so it just wasn't my focus.</i>

1944
01:17:23,769 --> 01:17:27,356
But now me seeing
the bigger picture of it, it's my focus.

1945
01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:31,777
CHRIS:
<i>Quincy is also, like, the definition</i>

1946
01:17:31,777 --> 01:17:34,905
<i>of, like, what you can do with potential.</i>

1947
01:17:34,905 --> 01:17:37,115
<i>Most people,
we never live up to our potential.</i>

1948
01:17:37,115 --> 01:17:38,742
<i>We never really reach it.</i>

1949
01:17:39,826 --> 01:17:42,079
♪ upbeat music playing ♪

1950
01:17:42,079 --> 01:17:46,124
♪

1951
01:17:46,124 --> 01:17:47,918
<i>He clearly would know
what the fuck I'm doing.</i>

1952
01:17:47,918 --> 01:17:49,837
One, two, three, four.

1953
01:17:49,837 --> 01:17:51,547
[overlapping chatter]

1954
01:17:51,547 --> 01:17:53,549
CHRIS: <i>He would know where I'm
comin' from and how I wanna do it,</i>

1955
01:17:53,549 --> 01:17:54,466
<i>and why I'm doing it.</i>

1956
01:17:54,466 --> 01:17:56,510
<i>He's gonna know that
'cause he comes from that.</i>

1957
01:17:56,510 --> 01:17:58,470
[audience cheering]

1958
01:18:00,722 --> 01:18:02,349
[inaudible dialogue]

1959
01:18:03,392 --> 01:18:04,393
CHRIS:
<i>For me to meet him,</i>

1960
01:18:05,185 --> 01:18:06,436
<i>that's really gonna be fun, man.</i>

1961
01:18:06,436 --> 01:18:07,729
<i>I can't wait for it.</i>

1962
01:18:08,522 --> 01:18:10,023
<i>And I'll just make sure
I'm not nervous though.</i>

1963
01:18:11,108 --> 01:18:12,734
<i>Make sure I'm relaxed enough.</i>

1964
01:18:14,236 --> 01:18:17,114
<i>A special inspiration
for me and our team</i>

1965
01:18:17,114 --> 01:18:18,949
<i>and our community is here tonight.</i>

1966
01:18:18,949 --> 01:18:22,035
<i>Ladies and gentlemen,
make some noise for Mr. Quincy Jones.</i>

1967
01:18:22,035 --> 01:18:24,079
[audience cheering]

1968
01:18:26,164 --> 01:18:27,958
[inaudible dialogue]

1969
01:18:27,958 --> 01:18:30,294
<i>Make some noise for Trap Jazz.</i>

1970
01:18:30,294 --> 01:18:31,837
[cheering]

1971
01:18:32,462 --> 01:18:35,382
♪ upbeat trap jazz music playing ♪

1972
01:18:35,382 --> 01:19:02,367
♪

1973
01:19:02,367 --> 01:19:03,619
CHRIS:
<i>I saw this moment.</i>

1974
01:19:04,244 --> 01:19:05,579
<i>A lot of people was trying to talk to him</i>

1975
01:19:05,579 --> 01:19:07,831
but he was just looking
and just listening.

1976
01:19:07,831 --> 01:19:11,168
He heard that-- them drums,
and he heard the brass,

1977
01:19:11,168 --> 01:19:12,586
<i>he heard his song,
but he heard it differently,</i>

1978
01:19:13,337 --> 01:19:14,963
<i>than probably he's ever heard it before.</i>

1979
01:19:14,963 --> 01:19:25,224
♪

1980
01:19:25,224 --> 01:19:27,434
<i>This is an original song called</i> Boot Up.

1981
01:19:28,227 --> 01:19:30,020
<i>Everybody say,</i>"Boot Up!"

1982
01:19:30,020 --> 01:19:32,814
[crowd cheering]

1983
01:19:33,565 --> 01:19:36,235
<i>♪ Boot Up</i> playing ♪

1984
01:19:36,235 --> 01:20:07,850
♪

1985
01:20:07,850 --> 01:20:09,059
<i>He saw the people jumping</i>

1986
01:20:09,059 --> 01:20:11,103
<i>and I think that made him
at least pay attention</i>

1987
01:20:11,103 --> 01:20:13,313
and say,
"Oh, this is... this is different."

1988
01:20:13,814 --> 01:20:16,483
<i>And I-- that's what I would
like to believe he was thinking.</i>

1989
01:20:16,483 --> 01:20:18,151
<i>Uh, so it was, it was mind blowing.</i>

1990
01:20:18,861 --> 01:20:20,362
[indistinct chatter]

1991
01:20:20,737 --> 01:20:21,905
CHRIS:
<i>Meeting him, talking to him,</i>

1992
01:20:21,905 --> 01:20:24,157
<i>having, like, fun conversation with him.</i>

1993
01:20:24,157 --> 01:20:26,910
<i>Him telling stories, like, it was crazy.</i>

1994
01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:28,245
<i>It was definitely mind-blowing.</i>

1995
01:20:28,245 --> 01:20:30,247
<i>I couldn't believe
that it was happening actually.</i>

1996
01:20:30,247 --> 01:20:31,248
[inaudible dialogue]

1997
01:20:31,248 --> 01:20:32,165
That was--

1998
01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:36,753
That was a... a-a treasure, yeah.

1999
01:20:36,753 --> 01:20:38,172
I'll never forget that for sure.

2000
01:20:38,672 --> 01:20:40,007
First time.

2001
01:20:42,301 --> 01:20:45,637
STIXX: <i>We're growing
as a group playing-wise a lot.</i>

2002
01:20:45,637 --> 01:20:47,681
We about to start working
on some new music, too.

2003
01:20:48,473 --> 01:20:49,850
Like me, him and Cassius,

2004
01:20:49,850 --> 01:20:52,394
we actually was in the studio
not too long ago.

2005
01:20:52,394 --> 01:20:54,438
- We came up with some, some new stuff.
- New stuff.

2006
01:20:55,230 --> 01:20:57,733
STIXX: <i>We still gotta get it
mixed and mastered, you feel me?</i>

2007
01:20:57,733 --> 01:20:59,568
<i>Like, we still mixing certain stuff.</i>

2008
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,905
CHRIS: <i>That's really all I'm doing
is editing drums right now.</i>

2009
01:21:03,697 --> 01:21:05,407
I'm taking every little beat

2010
01:21:05,407 --> 01:21:08,285
and making sure it is where it need to be.

2011
01:21:09,077 --> 01:21:10,746
CASSIUS:
<i>We haven't finished the album.</i>

2012
01:21:10,746 --> 01:21:11,997
<i>We ain't even shopped the deal.</i>

2013
01:21:11,997 --> 01:21:13,165
<i>We ain't even tried to shop the deal.</i>

2014
01:21:13,790 --> 01:21:16,793
That's like, that's the first step
getting the deal for it.

2015
01:21:16,793 --> 01:21:18,670
<i>So that's the beginning stage.
That's the good part.</i>

2016
01:21:18,670 --> 01:21:20,714
<i>But now we just gotta
get the album finished.</i>

2017
01:21:20,714 --> 01:21:23,425
<i>It's just up to Chris
to do his part, period.</i>

2018
01:21:24,593 --> 01:21:27,846
♪ jazz music playing ♪

2019
01:21:27,846 --> 01:21:31,058
♪

2020
01:21:31,058 --> 01:21:32,059
CHRIS:
Hmm.

2021
01:21:32,059 --> 01:21:32,976
CHRIS' DAD:
Remember that one?

2022
01:21:32,976 --> 01:21:33,936
CHRIS:
Mm-hmm.

2023
01:21:33,936 --> 01:21:36,563
♪ gentle instrumental music playing ♪

2024
01:21:36,563 --> 01:21:42,402
♪

2025
01:21:42,402 --> 01:21:44,488
This is the first one?
This the first album?

2026
01:21:44,488 --> 01:21:45,322
CHRIS' DAD:
Mm-hmm.

2027
01:21:45,322 --> 01:21:46,448
Is the first one? Yeah.

2028
01:21:46,448 --> 01:21:49,368
You would play this one.
[laughs] Yeah.

2029
01:21:49,368 --> 01:21:51,578
- You like that one?
- Yeah, I remember this one.

2030
01:21:52,246 --> 01:21:53,997
CHRIS' DAD:
<i>In the prison system,</i>

2031
01:21:53,997 --> 01:21:55,874
I was fortunate enough to have

2032
01:21:55,874 --> 01:21:57,918
a lot of equipment given to me.

2033
01:21:57,918 --> 01:22:00,754
<i>I had people that still believed in me,</i>

2034
01:22:02,089 --> 01:22:04,842
<i>and all I had to do was
ask for whatever I needed</i>

2035
01:22:04,842 --> 01:22:08,053
<i>and eventually I ended up
with a studio in prison.</i>

2036
01:22:08,512 --> 01:22:12,224
I actually recorded
a gospel CD while in prison.

2037
01:22:13,183 --> 01:22:15,727
<i>A lot of talented guys were in prison.</i>

2038
01:22:15,727 --> 01:22:18,647
<i>Some-- many of my friends are out now</i>

2039
01:22:18,647 --> 01:22:19,982
<i>and a lot of them will,</i>

2040
01:22:19,982 --> 01:22:21,358
you know, they'll never get out,

2041
01:22:22,109 --> 01:22:25,362
or it'll be many more years
before they will get out.

2042
01:22:25,362 --> 01:22:27,322
But I take great pride in, um--

2043
01:22:27,322 --> 01:22:30,284
♪

2044
01:22:30,284 --> 01:22:31,368
[clears throat]

2045
01:22:32,202 --> 01:22:35,706
I take great pride in knowing that
I left something there for them.

2046
01:22:36,456 --> 01:22:40,586
My physical body left them after 20 years,

2047
01:22:40,586 --> 01:22:45,007
but I left things in place
where these guys can keep

2048
01:22:45,007 --> 01:22:48,510
polishing their gifts
and keep working hard.

2049
01:22:48,510 --> 01:22:50,262
Of course,
I know that's <i>Amazing Grace.</i>

2050
01:22:50,262 --> 01:22:52,055
But you didn't name anything
different though, right?

2051
01:22:52,055 --> 01:22:53,932
I decided to call it <i>Grace Amazing.</i>

2052
01:22:53,932 --> 01:22:55,642
<i>Grace Amazing.</i>
CHRIS' DAD: Mm-hmm.

2053
01:22:55,642 --> 01:22:56,560
Flipped it, okay.

2054
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,897
And, you-- Yeah, you had
limited equipment to work with,

2055
01:22:59,897 --> 01:23:01,440
whereas

2056
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:04,318
in most studios today
it's a, you know, big console.

2057
01:23:04,318 --> 01:23:06,737
- CHRIS' DAD: Oh, yeah, it was--
- A laptop, big computer.

2058
01:23:06,737 --> 01:23:07,571
CHRIS' DAD:
The bare minimum.

2059
01:23:07,571 --> 01:23:08,822
And then you played all the instruments.

2060
01:23:08,822 --> 01:23:10,866
You went from piano to the organ.

2061
01:23:10,866 --> 01:23:12,910
- To drums.
- Right. Well, I did all the music first.

2062
01:23:12,910 --> 01:23:13,744
You did the music first.

2063
01:23:13,744 --> 01:23:15,913
CHRIS' DAD:
I laid down, you know, each instrument.

2064
01:23:15,913 --> 01:23:17,456
CHRIS: Mm-hmm.
CHRIS' DAD: Uh--

2065
01:23:17,456 --> 01:23:19,041
It wasn't always right the first time,

2066
01:23:19,041 --> 01:23:21,001
but then you just do it over and over
till you get it right,

2067
01:23:21,001 --> 01:23:23,879
and then once I mix it down
to where I was satisfied,

2068
01:23:23,879 --> 01:23:25,172
then I would work on the vocals.

2069
01:23:25,172 --> 01:23:29,259
<i>Grace Amazing</i> was, uh,
I think one of the first songs

2070
01:23:29,259 --> 01:23:30,552
that I heard that you recorded.

2071
01:23:30,552 --> 01:23:31,386
CHRIS' DAD:
Mm-hmm.

2072
01:23:31,386 --> 01:23:33,555
CHRIS: And it wasn't like this,
it wasn't fully produced.

2073
01:23:33,555 --> 01:23:34,681
Oh, no.
CHRIS: No instruments.

2074
01:23:34,681 --> 01:23:37,559
Um, it was just you on piano.

2075
01:23:37,559 --> 01:23:40,145
<i>And I remember learning it back to back,</i>

2076
01:23:40,145 --> 01:23:42,689
<i>me and Josh
just sitting back, rewinding it.</i>

2077
01:23:42,689 --> 01:23:44,733
<i>The little chord changes you would do.</i>
CHRIS' DAD: <i>Oh, yeah.</i>

2078
01:23:44,733 --> 01:23:47,236
CHRIS: <i>That was all, like,
you know, pfft, you know,</i>

2079
01:23:47,236 --> 01:23:49,321
explosive to us, so--

2080
01:23:49,321 --> 01:23:51,907
You would always not really teach us,

2081
01:23:51,907 --> 01:23:54,243
- like, in a sense of like a teacher...
- Mm-hmm.

2082
01:23:54,243 --> 01:23:55,869
...or a professor.

2083
01:23:55,869 --> 01:24:00,666
You was really just giving us
your, your sound or your--

2084
01:24:01,416 --> 01:24:04,336
the elements that you would use,
you know, on chord changes.

2085
01:24:04,336 --> 01:24:05,963
Well, I always want you to understand

2086
01:24:05,963 --> 01:24:07,548
why I did what I did.

2087
01:24:07,548 --> 01:24:08,382
Hmm.

2088
01:24:08,382 --> 01:24:10,217
I always wanted you
to have your own style.

2089
01:24:10,217 --> 01:24:12,052
And it got to the point where

2090
01:24:12,052 --> 01:24:14,596
when I, when I got most of your moves down

2091
01:24:14,596 --> 01:24:17,099
and started playing 'em
the way you played 'em,

2092
01:24:17,099 --> 01:24:17,933
people would notice it.

2093
01:24:17,933 --> 01:24:19,226
- Mm-hmm.
- They would notice it.

2094
01:24:19,226 --> 01:24:21,061
Some people would come like
a mother in the church would come,

2095
01:24:21,061 --> 01:24:23,730
and say, "You know
you sound just like your daddy?"

2096
01:24:23,730 --> 01:24:26,358
I'm like, "You ain't heard
him play in 15 years,

2097
01:24:26,358 --> 01:24:27,526
how do you know that?"
CHRIS' DAD: 100 years. [laughs]

2098
01:24:27,526 --> 01:24:29,152
But there is that church sound...

2099
01:24:29,152 --> 01:24:30,445
- CHRIS' DAD: Absolutely.
- ...that I finally got down.

2100
01:24:30,445 --> 01:24:31,405
Yeah. [chuckles]

2101
01:24:31,405 --> 01:24:32,823
CHRIS' DAD:
<i>I love to hear him play.</i>

2102
01:24:33,282 --> 01:24:34,575
I enjoyed watching him play

2103
01:24:34,575 --> 01:24:37,578
and I was extremely proud
that this was my kid.

2104
01:24:37,578 --> 01:24:38,996
♪

2105
01:24:38,996 --> 01:24:40,622
I admire your durability.

2106
01:24:40,622 --> 01:24:41,456
Hmm.

2107
01:24:41,957 --> 01:24:44,960
You have endured a lot, a lot.

2108
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,963
- Uh, some your fault, some not your fault.
- Absolutely.

2109
01:24:47,963 --> 01:24:50,424
A lot of things you went through
I didn't want you to go through,

2110
01:24:51,550 --> 01:24:53,969
but I saw how you stuck in there.

2111
01:24:53,969 --> 01:24:56,305
I think that's gonna carry you a long way

2112
01:24:56,305 --> 01:24:57,514
because you're durable.

2113
01:24:57,514 --> 01:24:58,432
Hmm.

2114
01:24:58,432 --> 01:25:01,602
You, you know how to stick it out
even when it gets rough.

2115
01:25:01,602 --> 01:25:03,061
Of course I'm always on your side

2116
01:25:03,061 --> 01:25:05,355
- even when I tell you I'm not.
- Mm-hmm.

2117
01:25:05,355 --> 01:25:06,732
I'm always on your side.

2118
01:25:08,108 --> 01:25:08,984
Always.

2119
01:25:08,984 --> 01:25:10,027
That means a lot.

2120
01:25:11,028 --> 01:25:14,573
And I want better for you
than I ever had for myself.

2121
01:25:15,324 --> 01:25:17,993
And to me that's the evidence of real love

2122
01:25:17,993 --> 01:25:22,748
when you can celebrate
somebody else as if it were yourself.

2123
01:25:22,748 --> 01:25:26,376
- Mm.
- When you desire more of a person

2124
01:25:26,376 --> 01:25:27,711
than you desire for yourself.

2125
01:25:27,711 --> 01:25:29,379
You taught me how to be strong.

2126
01:25:29,379 --> 01:25:30,422
♪

2127
01:25:30,422 --> 01:25:33,509
You taught me how to stay focused.

2128
01:25:33,509 --> 01:25:34,968
♪

2129
01:25:34,968 --> 01:25:37,846
Even, uh, in the midst of things
that I'm going through today,

2130
01:25:39,139 --> 01:25:42,476
I can kinda look at you
and see how you stay focused.

2131
01:25:42,476 --> 01:25:44,228
Even when things are at their worst

2132
01:25:46,605 --> 01:25:47,689
you just keep going.

2133
01:25:49,942 --> 01:25:51,401
Before it is all said and done,

2134
01:25:51,401 --> 01:25:53,445
we doin' a album together.

2135
01:25:53,445 --> 01:25:54,321
Deal?

2136
01:25:55,531 --> 01:25:56,782
- After I get The Phantom.
- Deal?

2137
01:25:56,782 --> 01:25:58,909
After I get The Phantom, we'll do it.

2138
01:25:58,909 --> 01:26:00,285
[laughter]

2139
01:26:00,285 --> 01:26:01,453
We'll see about that.

2140
01:26:01,453 --> 01:26:02,287
Maybe we'll rent one,

2141
01:26:02,287 --> 01:26:04,748
I'll rent you one and we'll do the,
do the album that week.

2142
01:26:04,748 --> 01:26:05,582
[laughter]

2143
01:26:05,582 --> 01:26:12,297
♪

2144
01:26:12,297 --> 01:26:14,675
STIXX: <i>I watched Chris change
over the past couple of years.</i>

2145
01:26:14,675 --> 01:26:17,553
<i>His music, his energy, his priorities,</i>

2146
01:26:18,178 --> 01:26:20,806
he's getting older, like,
we not kids no more,

2147
01:26:20,806 --> 01:26:21,640
you know what I mean?

2148
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,559
Like, we ain't out here
just fuckin' around no more,

2149
01:26:23,559 --> 01:26:25,644
like, shit has to make sense.

2150
01:26:26,436 --> 01:26:30,399
CHRIS: <i>I definitely learned to,
at least as much as I can,</i>

2151
01:26:30,399 --> 01:26:33,068
<i>try to show up
before everybody else in the band.</i>

2152
01:26:33,068 --> 01:26:34,736
Not being there is, uh, keeping us

2153
01:26:34,736 --> 01:26:37,322
from making certain decisions
that were very important,

2154
01:26:37,322 --> 01:26:40,075
that I didn't realize
that they cared enough

2155
01:26:40,075 --> 01:26:41,994
<i>for me to keep me in the loop about.</i>

2156
01:26:43,537 --> 01:26:45,372
STIXX:
<i>We got a show tonight, baby.</i>

2157
01:26:45,831 --> 01:26:47,082
We on the way to the stu.

2158
01:26:52,671 --> 01:26:54,131
That's when the best shit comes.

2159
01:26:56,091 --> 01:26:57,050
Every time.

2160
01:26:57,050 --> 01:26:59,636
The pandemic, it had a bad effect,

2161
01:26:59,636 --> 01:27:01,805
but then it had a, a good effect, too.

2162
01:27:02,222 --> 01:27:06,435
<i>I was able to get, like,
a lot of my own personal music done.</i>

2163
01:27:06,435 --> 01:27:09,938
<i>I wanna be one of those guys
when song come on, you go crazy,</i>

2164
01:27:09,938 --> 01:27:11,356
<i>but I made the song, you know.</i>

2165
01:27:11,356 --> 01:27:14,026
Something that's gonna be here for forever
even when I'm long gone.

2166
01:27:14,568 --> 01:27:16,320
<i>And I was able to spend time
with my daughter, too.</i>

2167
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,947
<i>I have a, I have a daughter now,
two daughters actually.</i>

2168
01:27:18,947 --> 01:27:20,032
♪

2169
01:27:20,032 --> 01:27:20,991
[baby coos]

2170
01:27:20,991 --> 01:27:22,242
♪

2171
01:27:22,242 --> 01:27:25,495
STIXX: <i>Our music is unique
and nobody else do it or duplicate it.</i>

2172
01:27:25,495 --> 01:27:26,496
♪

2173
01:27:26,496 --> 01:27:28,749
<i>If we get signed
to a major record label, cool.</i>

2174
01:27:28,749 --> 01:27:31,418
<i>If not, cool, we'll still be able
to do it independently, too.</i>

2175
01:27:31,418 --> 01:27:32,753
♪

2176
01:27:32,753 --> 01:27:37,299
PRODUCER: If you could speak
to your 10-year-old self right now,

2177
01:27:37,299 --> 01:27:38,509
what would you say to him?

2178
01:27:38,509 --> 01:27:41,011
I would tell him, um, don't wait.

2179
01:27:41,970 --> 01:27:44,556
<i>Don't wait for what everybody else thinks</i>

2180
01:27:44,556 --> 01:27:45,933
<i>that you should be doing.</i>

2181
01:27:45,933 --> 01:27:47,392
<i>Don't wait for your family.</i>

2182
01:27:47,392 --> 01:27:51,021
<i>Don't wait for people
who you thought were your friends.</i>

2183
01:27:51,021 --> 01:27:53,106
<i>Do it for yourself first,</i>

2184
01:27:54,191 --> 01:27:56,193
<i>and then try to help everybody else.</i>

2185
01:27:56,193 --> 01:28:00,906
<i>Everybody who knows me
knows that I don't want fame,</i>

2186
01:28:00,906 --> 01:28:02,407
I just want it to be about music.

2187
01:28:03,033 --> 01:28:05,160
Got a new sound, you just gotta hear it.

2188
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,120
♪ gentle piano music playing ♪

2189
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,456
♪ upbeat drum music joins ♪

2190
01:28:09,456 --> 01:28:34,857
♪

2191
01:28:34,857 --> 01:28:37,067
<i>I definitely want my legacy
to just be around</i>

2192
01:28:37,067 --> 01:28:38,735
<i>for like my children.</i>

2193
01:28:38,735 --> 01:28:41,321
<i>I used to go to the studio
and watch my dad</i>

2194
01:28:41,321 --> 01:28:45,576
<i>and be at shows where he used
to have me like on the Grammy.</i>

2195
01:28:45,576 --> 01:28:46,743
♪

2196
01:28:46,743 --> 01:28:47,953
<i>I want them to see that</i>

2197
01:28:49,246 --> 01:28:51,999
<i>you could do
whatever you pretty much wanna do.</i>

2198
01:28:51,999 --> 01:28:59,381
♪

2199
01:28:59,381 --> 01:29:02,342
CASSIUS: <i>Trap Jazz is,
it's gonna be real, real big, real huge.</i>

2200
01:29:02,342 --> 01:29:03,677
<i>There's no limits to it.</i>

2201
01:29:03,677 --> 01:29:07,431
I think it's gonna probably be one of
the biggest things in the next five years.

2202
01:29:07,431 --> 01:29:10,392
<i>It's gonna almost be like
how hip-hop was in Atlanta.</i>

2203
01:29:10,392 --> 01:29:12,769
It's gonna take off and everybody
gonna start doing it their own ways.

2204
01:29:12,769 --> 01:29:14,855
♪

2205
01:29:14,855 --> 01:29:16,523
CHRIS:
<i>I want people to really</i>

2206
01:29:16,523 --> 01:29:18,775
<i>enjoy music
with their heart and their soul</i>

2207
01:29:18,775 --> 01:29:20,277
<i>'cause music is very healing.</i>

2208
01:29:20,903 --> 01:29:23,447
<i>It's, uh, very spiritual,
it's very powerful.</i>

2209
01:29:23,447 --> 01:29:25,240
<i>If they can dance from it,</i>

2210
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:29,119
<i>if they can play the music
after losing someone</i>

2211
01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:30,954
<i>or just in the moment.</i>

2212
01:29:31,788 --> 01:29:33,790
<i>I want to serve people musically.</i>

2213
01:29:33,790 --> 01:29:36,168
♪

2214
01:29:36,168 --> 01:29:38,378
STIXX:
<i>Really good music when it enters you,</i>

2215
01:29:38,378 --> 01:29:41,173
<i>it's like the one thing other than God</i>

2216
01:29:41,173 --> 01:29:43,592
<i>that can change the way you feel
without your permission.</i>

2217
01:29:43,592 --> 01:29:46,136
♪

2218
01:29:46,136 --> 01:29:47,638
CHRIS' DAD:
<i>That was new to me.</i>

2219
01:29:47,638 --> 01:29:50,891
<i>To see your child
doing what he was born to do,</i>

2220
01:29:52,226 --> 01:29:53,560
<i>to see him absolutely...</i>

2221
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,354
♪

2222
01:29:55,354 --> 01:29:56,188
...free.

2223
01:29:56,188 --> 01:30:01,109
♪

2224
01:30:09,034 --> 01:30:10,744
PRODUCER:
Whoo! And cut.

2225
01:30:11,286 --> 01:30:12,371
CHRIS:
That'll work.

2226
01:30:13,038 --> 01:30:15,249
MAN: <i>Play-play-play this record
as frequently as--</i>

2227
01:30:15,249 --> 01:30:18,418
[record fades]
♪ upbeat music playing ♪

2228
01:30:18,418 --> 01:30:20,796
♪

2229
01:31:39,583 --> 01:31:42,503
♪

2230
01:32:35,180 --> 01:32:38,600
♪

2231
01:33:03,083 --> 01:33:04,168
♪ music stops ♪

2232
01:33:07,171 --> 01:33:10,299
♪ smooth jazz music playing ♪

2233
01:33:39,745 --> 01:33:41,830
♪ music fades out ♪



