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♪ spooky and dramatic music ♪

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This is the story
about a few people,

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decades ago,

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that were given the opportunity

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to become zombies

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in one of George Romero's

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Living Dead films.

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Little did we know,

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when we stepped
on the set that day.

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We had no idea

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it was gonna change
our lives forever.

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Meanwhile,

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students from the George A.
Romero Filmmaking Program

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and Tom Savini's
Special Effects Makeup Program

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[sinister voice]
Are up to something.

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♪ drum beating ♪

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Hey, I'm here.

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Where have you been?

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I'm sorry.

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So, do you have it?

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Yeah, of course I have it.

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Chasing Zombies
Scene 4.1 - Take 1

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[clapping noise]

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[Director OC] Action!

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Zombies moaning and crowd noise

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[static]

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Hey, Dead Fans
I'm Brian Ceponis.

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♪ horror music ♪

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[screaming]
"no, no"

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[snarling]

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[howling]

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We are here live
At the scene of the dead.

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That's right.

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We are at the Monroeville Mall

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where 45 years ago

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In 1978

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Dawn of the Dead was filmed

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in this very location.

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There are throngs of zombie fans

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inside this very establishment
right now.

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And we are gonna go inside
and see what's going on

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and it's gonna be amazing.

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You wanna join me?

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Let's go in.

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Ha ha

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It's George Romero.

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Well, okay it's not
THE George Romero, but

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that is George Romero's bust

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which is awesome.

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We're gonna go
check out some exhibits

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and meet some cool people

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and we're gonna have
a good time doing it.

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We'll see you there.

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So, tell us your name.

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Uh, my name is Scott Kellaway.

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And where are you from, Scott?

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Uh, uh, I'm from England.

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England?

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You came all the way
from England

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to here.

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Why are you here?

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Some kind of instict.

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What are they doing?
Why do they come here?

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Some kind of instinct.

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There's just something
about the place.

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Being a fan of Romero

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and everything.

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As a kid I always thought

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I'd love to make the pilgrimage
one day to come visit

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you know
the locations - the mall.

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And then one day, thought

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screw it, I'm just gonna do it
I'm gonna go.

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and, uh.

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First time I came was
about 2018, I think.

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And then, since then

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I've been about 4 times now.

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So what was
your first experience

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with George Romero films?

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Have you met George Romero?

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Oh, Oh, I was so
excited to meet him.

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First experience with
George Romero films,

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and then I want to hear
about your experience.

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Night of the Living Dead

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was the beginning of it for me.

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And I grew up in an area where

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we were told that it was filmed
at certain locations

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in our neighborhood.

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It wasn't.

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But we believed it was.

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So that was my first

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recelect of-of realizing
what it even was.

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I mean,
we didn't know the movie.

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We just knew
it was filmed there.

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So we would go to these places

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that weren't in the movie,

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that we thought
were in the movie.

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that we thought
were in the movie.

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And we were all excited like

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this is where the zombies were.

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No it wasn't.

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But we thought it was, you know.

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[laughing]

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And we were like

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this is it!

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And, it wasn't.

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Like, hey look there's
were the zombies were.

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Oh, yeah - Oh yeah.

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This is the field
they ran through.

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No, that was up in Evans City.

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Oh, I know and then but
then doing research,

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that's when I found out,
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and then, um, when we did, uh

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raising money to fix the Chapel.

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That's when I came

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into the scene

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and really was

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about trying to help
and, and, you know

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get that all together.

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Go in - what - we did
Evans City at the park.

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Right. We did different
conventions there.

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Raised money.

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Got to see all these people.

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So a lot of the celebrities

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who we even
become good friends with.

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Yeah.

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So we're gonna come back
to George Romero.

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I wanna hear about
your first experience.

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Again, I think because
we're similar in age,

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it was definitely the
Night of the Living Dead.

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And also because officially
my real name is Barbara.

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And of course the famous line:
We're Coming to get you Barbara.

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I got to work alongside
both of the Johnnys

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last year at this show.

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And I actually had them film
that famous line, like

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saying it to me.

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I sat between them and they both
said that famous line to me.

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I loved it!

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They're Coming
to get you Barbara.

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Normally I don't like
being called Barbara,

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but that was an exception.

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Definitely - Yeah, great - yes.

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It was definitely
very memorable.

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Thanks for sitting down with me.

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Sure.

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Tell me who you are and
a little bit about yourself.

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Okay, Let me check my ID.

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Um, I'm Mark Tierno.

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Um, I was, um, in uh, 3 of
George Romero's films:

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Knightriders, Creepshow
and Day of the Dead.

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[zombie Mark roaring]

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Um, Knightriders was the first
George Romero film I was in,

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and I don't know
I don't remember

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how I got an audition,

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but I did.

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And, um I got cast

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as one of the court members,

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but I was working full time,

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and I didn't want to
give up my job

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to do this, uh film

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that I didn't know
anything about.

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And uh,

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so I,

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turned it down.

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But they came back

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and offered me

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the role of the Troop Magician,

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because they knew that
I had - do magic also.

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So I uh agreed to that.

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And I - uh - it was,

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I had to be there
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sometimes 4.

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And you know,
that worked out really well.

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The second was uh Creepshow.

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And they knew me
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and even though
I was a lot of trouble,

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they decided that,
we'll cast you.

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What I got was uh uh
was to be the um,

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to be a, uh, stand-in,

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you know, and and

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it was an incredible experience

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because I got to work
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And, uh,

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I was a stand-in for, uh,

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Fritz Weaver,

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sometimes Hal Holbrook,

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Ted Danson,

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uh, also Stehpen King. I was
a stand-in for Stephen King.

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And then um I was the uh,

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voice of Carl Reynolds

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in-in the last segment
with the roaches

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with EG Marshall as Mr. Pratt.

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[on phone] The wife and I
decided to take the kids to

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Disneyworld this year.
You like your job Reynolds?

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[Brenda] So how did you 2 meet?

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How did we meet?

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[gunshots]

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How did we meet?

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Let me tell you how we met.

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It's very interesting.

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Oh, wait.

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In 1977 I was
working on my first book.

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It was called The Collectors
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and I had just
self-published it.

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Uh I was working at
an art studio at the time

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and I had gone out to lunch.

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When I came back from lunch,

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Uh it was like a 2-story
or story and a half studio,

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so there was a deck
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Uh on the - on the deck
with the guy that I worked for

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was Tom Savini
and Jeanie Jefferies.

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Uh, Tom,

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had brought his collection of
Famous Monsters to show me

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because he had just
picked up a copy of my book.

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And Jeanie - they were
they were together

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to come down to meet me.

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So that's how we first met.

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And you don't remember that.

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I don't remember that.
I don't remember.

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I must have been so into Tom.
I was like...

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[laughter]

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No, so, yeah, exactly that's
That's where we first met.

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♪ spooky music ♪

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Ooo, hey, uh,
can you turn off that light?

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♪ overly dramatic music ♪

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Huh!

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[both together] Hey Nate.

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Man what are you guys doin here?

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Whatcha been doin?

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Uh, nothin.

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Avery?

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Just finished filming.
That's it.

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So do you still need me
in the morning?

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Um, yeah-yeah
Thanks for helping out.

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Sure.

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Interesting. Anything else?

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[both together]
No, uh, no, nope.

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Okay, so I'll see you then.

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[Avery OC]
See you then.

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Later.

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That was close!

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They know we're up to something.

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Doesn't matter.

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We need to get back to
the Savini building,

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and discuss some strategy.

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Right.

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♪ heavy metal music ♪
"They Crawl" plays

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[Zombies moaning]

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[Crowd yelling]

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So, tell us your name.

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My name is Avery Smith and
I'm from St. Louis, Missouri.

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What do you do for a living?

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I invest in real estate.

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So, why are you here?

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I'm here for the Romero films

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to pay homage to
Dawn of the Dead.

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Uh I turn 45 years old this year

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and so does the movie.

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How often do you come
to these conventions?

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Once a year.

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And what do you,
what kind of feelings,

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what kind of emotions do you get

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coming to these,
uh, conventions?

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Like a kid in a candy store.
It's like Christmas, man,

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cause when I was younger I never
thought I'd be in this position.

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And when did you first
become a George Romero fan?

268
00:12:54,014 --> 00:12:56,914
See here. Probably in my
early early childhood,

269
00:12:56,948 --> 00:12:57,949
about 8 or 9 years old.

270
00:12:58,467 --> 00:13:01,263
Yeah? What was it started you
becoming a George Romero fan?

271
00:13:01,297 --> 00:13:03,334
Well uh my parents
owned a video store,

272
00:13:03,368 --> 00:13:04,507
and I was from Illinois,

273
00:13:04,542 --> 00:13:06,509
and we were at the time
living in Lousille Kentucky.

274
00:13:07,027 --> 00:13:08,649
It wasn't like I was
around too many people.

275
00:13:08,684 --> 00:13:09,616
I was pretty much an introvert,

276
00:13:09,650 --> 00:13:10,513
so my mom was like: Hey

277
00:13:10,548 --> 00:13:11,963
you can watch
any movie you want.

278
00:13:12,170 --> 00:13:12,550
Just don't go
behind the red curtain.

279
00:13:12,584 --> 00:13:13,827
[Brian laughs]

280
00:13:13,862 --> 00:13:16,312
So that's that's how my movie
history started with horror.

281
00:13:16,347 --> 00:13:18,073
Let me guess, you snuck behind
the red curtain and watched...

282
00:13:18,418 --> 00:13:20,834
That was later down the road.
[both laughing]

283
00:13:20,869 --> 00:13:22,767
You steal George Romero films
from the video store?

284
00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:24,079
You know what?
When I was going around

285
00:13:24,113 --> 00:13:25,701
looking at you know
Toolbox Murderers

286
00:13:25,735 --> 00:13:26,944
and all this crazy stuff,

287
00:13:26,978 --> 00:13:27,979
I saw Dawn of the Dead.

288
00:13:28,014 --> 00:13:29,532
It was a Media VHS case

289
00:13:29,567 --> 00:13:32,881
and it was uh,
written in neon green.

290
00:13:32,915 --> 00:13:34,814
I see Scott Reiniger on the
cover, and I was like,

291
00:13:34,848 --> 00:13:36,367
let's check this out.
And I was hooked ever since.

292
00:13:36,677 --> 00:13:38,438
Did you rewind before you
took it back to the store?

293
00:13:38,472 --> 00:13:39,611
Of course or I got into trouble.

294
00:13:39,646 --> 00:13:40,820
Be kind - rewind right?

295
00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:42,304
Back in the 80's that was
definitely a huge fine.

296
00:13:42,338 --> 00:13:43,029
back in the day

297
00:13:43,581 --> 00:13:45,341
Did your Mum
not let you watch this or?

298
00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:47,861
No, my Mom wouldn't
let me watch it.

299
00:13:48,206 --> 00:13:49,276
But neither did mine but,

300
00:13:49,311 --> 00:13:51,692
well, it was my Dad
that was the worst one.

301
00:13:52,038 --> 00:13:55,179
He said: "There's something
wrong with you. You're sick.

302
00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:56,594
Why are you watching this?

303
00:13:56,905 --> 00:13:58,492
There's blood - It's got - oh.

304
00:13:58,838 --> 00:13:59,908
You need to see a doctor.

305
00:13:59,942 --> 00:14:01,771
There's uh
something wrong with you.

306
00:14:02,013 --> 00:14:03,083
My father wasn't like that.

307
00:14:03,118 --> 00:14:04,567
My father was like,
Oh, yeah come on down.

308
00:14:04,602 --> 00:14:06,259
Yeah sit here and
watch it with me.

309
00:14:06,293 --> 00:14:07,432
It's all bloody - It's good.

310
00:14:07,467 --> 00:14:09,158
It's just all the
blood splatter,

311
00:14:09,193 --> 00:14:10,850
the blood splatter,
the zombies coming.

312
00:14:10,884 --> 00:14:13,369
It was all over the place. The
blood was like it was all over.

313
00:14:13,404 --> 00:14:14,025
It was cool.

314
00:14:14,060 --> 00:14:15,026
Oh, it was great.

315
00:14:15,061 --> 00:14:16,131
Absolutely loved it.

316
00:14:16,165 --> 00:14:18,719
And I hope - I hope
more of it continues to come.

317
00:14:18,754 --> 00:14:20,066
I hope they make another one.

318
00:14:20,273 --> 00:14:21,653
Well let's let's hope they do.

319
00:14:21,688 --> 00:14:23,448
I mean hopefully
they might cast us.

320
00:14:23,483 --> 00:14:24,449
[both together]
You never know.

321
00:14:24,933 --> 00:14:26,624
Let's hope. We might be
the 2 lucky ones.

322
00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:29,489
Well, let's wait
and see what happens.

323
00:14:29,523 --> 00:14:30,524
Yeah, let's see what happens.

324
00:14:32,285 --> 00:14:34,149
[Amy OC] Chasing Zombies
interview with Bob

325
00:14:34,183 --> 00:14:35,805
Take 1, common mark.
[slate claps]

326
00:14:37,359 --> 00:14:38,291
[Bob Tinnell OC] Okay
So wait how do we?

327
00:14:38,325 --> 00:14:40,017
What do you want us
to say first?

328
00:14:40,051 --> 00:14:41,466
[laughter]

329
00:14:41,915 --> 00:14:42,812
How we met.

330
00:14:44,297 --> 00:14:45,056
Um

331
00:14:45,505 --> 00:14:46,644
[Tinnell OC]
Well cause he wouldn't remember

332
00:14:46,678 --> 00:14:48,749
cause I was
tremendiously insignificant.

333
00:14:49,302 --> 00:14:51,580
Uh
[Bob laughs]

334
00:14:51,614 --> 00:14:53,064
It was in Monroeville

335
00:14:53,754 --> 00:14:56,861
at the first Fantasy Film
Celebrity Con in 1978.

336
00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:57,586
And, um

337
00:14:58,311 --> 00:14:59,484
it was such a - uh,

338
00:15:01,245 --> 00:15:03,040
like a very empowering event.

339
00:15:03,074 --> 00:15:04,593
It was very - it was amazing.

340
00:15:04,973 --> 00:15:05,421
Really,

341
00:15:06,181 --> 00:15:07,872
and I - I just

342
00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,081
ran into - I got
into an elevator.

343
00:15:11,082 --> 00:15:12,532
I think it was an elevator.

344
00:15:12,566 --> 00:15:13,567
and you were in the elevator

345
00:15:13,602 --> 00:15:14,914
And I just - I tried to explain

346
00:15:14,948 --> 00:15:16,087
how much I enjoyed the

347
00:15:17,433 --> 00:15:19,780
how much it meant, and
you know how great it was

348
00:15:19,815 --> 00:15:22,576
and I think you just said:
Get away kid you bother me.

349
00:15:22,611 --> 00:15:25,441
[Bob laughs]
It was - It was uh the first

350
00:15:25,994 --> 00:15:28,962
Horror Science Fiction
convention that I had put on.

351
00:15:29,652 --> 00:15:33,139
That's - that was our first
run in together and uh,

352
00:15:33,415 --> 00:15:34,864
at the same time,

353
00:15:35,141 --> 00:15:37,522
uh, that the convention
was going on,

354
00:15:37,557 --> 00:15:40,767
I was publishing a magazine
called Questar,

355
00:15:40,801 --> 00:15:44,288
which is a science fiction
fantasy horror magazine.

356
00:15:44,667 --> 00:15:45,772
Uh kind of a slick thing,

357
00:15:45,806 --> 00:15:47,601
and again, not much publishing

358
00:15:47,636 --> 00:15:50,397
coming out of Pittsburgh
then either, so.

359
00:15:50,432 --> 00:15:52,675
Uh, we uh

360
00:15:53,021 --> 00:15:55,195
happened to have our offices

361
00:15:55,230 --> 00:15:56,886
on Fort Pitt Boulevard

362
00:15:57,163 --> 00:16:01,063
in the same building uh that
George Romero's offices were in.

363
00:16:01,339 --> 00:16:03,963
So we were on the first floor
with our publishing company

364
00:16:03,997 --> 00:16:05,999
and George's were
on the 5th floor.

365
00:16:06,827 --> 00:16:08,726
And uh that was interesting, so.

366
00:16:08,933 --> 00:16:12,316
Again, Bob was uh going to
Point Park College at the time

367
00:16:12,557 --> 00:16:13,973
just a couple blocks away.

368
00:16:14,421 --> 00:16:15,733
I just showed up at his office

369
00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:17,217
and said:
I wanna go to work for you.

370
00:16:17,735 --> 00:16:19,702
And then you said ha
We don't have any money

371
00:16:19,737 --> 00:16:20,738
and I don't know you,

372
00:16:20,772 --> 00:16:22,222
it's like didn't I
see you at that

373
00:16:22,257 --> 00:16:24,500
didn't I see you
at your conventions, man.

374
00:16:24,742 --> 00:16:27,055
I'd been to 2 conventions
at that point and I had

375
00:16:27,710 --> 00:16:30,368
already worked for George
and for Mike [Gornick]

376
00:16:30,403 --> 00:16:32,405
and had been an extra on
Knightriders for a few days.

377
00:16:33,406 --> 00:16:37,030
So I came down and started
working at the magazine.

378
00:16:37,479 --> 00:16:39,722
You don't remember this but one
of the funniest things ever

379
00:16:40,447 --> 00:16:42,518
was you know when people think
about Night of the Living Dead,

380
00:16:42,553 --> 00:16:43,968
and they think
about the farmhouse,

381
00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,349
and they think
about the basement.

382
00:16:45,866 --> 00:16:48,421
And the first day that
I was working at Questar

383
00:16:48,731 --> 00:16:51,527
they sent me to the basement
of the building

384
00:16:51,941 --> 00:16:53,495
on this errand
to look for something

385
00:16:53,529 --> 00:16:54,772
that I don't even think existed.

386
00:16:55,531 --> 00:16:56,808
And then they just waited.

387
00:16:56,843 --> 00:16:58,258
And then I came upstairs

388
00:16:58,741 --> 00:17:00,329
overwhelmed with Deja Vu,

389
00:17:00,364 --> 00:17:01,261
and I didn't understand it.

390
00:17:01,744 --> 00:17:02,745
♪♪ suspenseful music ♪

391
00:17:05,541 --> 00:17:07,474
The Night of the Living Dead
farmhouse basement

392
00:17:07,509 --> 00:17:09,200
is actually in
downtown Pittsburgh.

393
00:17:09,787 --> 00:17:11,513
♪ suspenseful music ♪

394
00:17:13,722 --> 00:17:15,689
But no one knew that
at that time.

395
00:17:15,724 --> 00:17:16,414
Yeah, you,

396
00:17:17,139 --> 00:17:20,729
you can - you can access all
this information and trivia now

397
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:22,696
so simply.

398
00:17:22,731 --> 00:17:25,423
But no one even had
mentioned it so we uh,

399
00:17:25,458 --> 00:17:28,909
we actually were storing all of
our back issues of the magazines

400
00:17:29,565 --> 00:17:30,773
uh - in the basement.

401
00:17:31,291 --> 00:17:33,638
Uh it was - it was the
only place we had

402
00:17:33,673 --> 00:17:35,675
for extra - for extra space so.

403
00:17:36,227 --> 00:17:36,745
Ah you know - it,

404
00:17:36,779 --> 00:17:38,057
in the beginning,

405
00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:40,645
we didn't realize it was the
basement from the movie either.

406
00:17:41,577 --> 00:17:42,578
[together] Really?

407
00:17:43,303 --> 00:17:47,480
We were just walking up and down
those crappy wooden steps,

408
00:17:47,756 --> 00:17:50,931
afraid that one of them was just
gonna give way at some point.

409
00:17:50,966 --> 00:17:53,624
So it was - it was a fun
trivia thing, but

410
00:17:53,831 --> 00:17:55,971
and back then, nobody ever,

411
00:17:56,005 --> 00:17:57,869
no one ever knocked
on the door and said:

412
00:17:57,904 --> 00:18:00,803
Hey, can we
Can we see that basement?

413
00:18:01,770 --> 00:18:04,255
No - not even thought of.

414
00:18:05,463 --> 00:18:06,740
So, tell us your name.

415
00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:08,363
Uh, my name is Shad Nowicki.

416
00:18:08,397 --> 00:18:09,743
And where are you from, Shad?

417
00:18:09,778 --> 00:18:12,401
From a little town out of
Buffalo
called Ellicottville New York.

418
00:18:12,436 --> 00:18:13,678
Ellicottville New York, okay.

419
00:18:13,713 --> 00:18:15,301
And what do you do for a living?

420
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,406
I'm a professional
artist, actually.

421
00:18:17,441 --> 00:18:18,614
[Brian OC] Professional artist.

422
00:18:18,649 --> 00:18:19,477
[Shad OC]
Specializing in painting.

423
00:18:19,822 --> 00:18:20,927
[Brian OC] That's fantastic.

424
00:18:20,961 --> 00:18:23,412
Is-is that what brings you
here? Why are you here?

425
00:18:23,447 --> 00:18:26,795
Uh, yeah. That kinda did
get me into the door here.

426
00:18:26,829 --> 00:18:28,141
Um, painting, but,

427
00:18:28,176 --> 00:18:30,247
really the major reason I'm here

428
00:18:30,281 --> 00:18:32,249
is because of my
love for Romero films.

429
00:18:32,283 --> 00:18:34,906
And-and I was
fortunate enough to

430
00:18:34,941 --> 00:18:36,149
talk to enough people that said

431
00:18:36,184 --> 00:18:37,254
you should probably get here

432
00:18:37,288 --> 00:18:38,496
you know, for this.

433
00:18:38,531 --> 00:18:40,326
So that's why I'm here
for my love of Romero films,

434
00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,466
and finally meeting
these people that I've

435
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,607
seen on screen for
years and years and years.

436
00:18:45,641 --> 00:18:47,643
And you get to interact
with not only the folks

437
00:18:47,678 --> 00:18:48,679
you've seen on screen but

438
00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:50,336
all the other attendees
that are here.

439
00:18:50,370 --> 00:18:53,339
Oh, absolutely. Yeah - yeah.
The people here and uh,

440
00:18:53,373 --> 00:18:55,686
the community that George
has built over the years

441
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,481
is just absolutely phenomenal.

442
00:18:57,688 --> 00:18:59,862
and it's a special thing
It's awesome

443
00:18:59,897 --> 00:19:01,726
Speaking of like uh
How many of these things

444
00:19:01,761 --> 00:19:03,625
do you go to a year?
How many have you been to?

445
00:19:03,659 --> 00:19:05,144
Uh, this is
my first Living Dead,

446
00:19:05,178 --> 00:19:07,387
but I travel for a living.
Do all the conventions

447
00:19:07,422 --> 00:19:08,837
that I can do during the year.

448
00:19:08,871 --> 00:19:10,839
I usually do depending, lately

449
00:19:10,873 --> 00:19:13,255
I've been doing a little bit
more, so about 7 a year.

450
00:19:13,497 --> 00:19:16,085
Um but I'm a painter,
so it - it's...

451
00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:18,985
The process is a little longer
than some of these guys.

452
00:19:19,019 --> 00:19:19,158
So, yeah.

453
00:19:19,606 --> 00:19:20,849
And you mention about

454
00:19:20,883 --> 00:19:23,472
the, obviously your first reason
for being here is George Romero.

455
00:19:23,507 --> 00:19:24,266
Mm, hmm.

456
00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:26,234
So what was your first?
Tell me about your first

457
00:19:26,268 --> 00:19:27,683
experience with George Romero,

458
00:19:27,718 --> 00:19:28,374
ah,

459
00:19:28,408 --> 00:19:29,237
with George Romero's films.

460
00:19:29,444 --> 00:19:30,307
Alright, so I was,

461
00:19:30,893 --> 00:19:32,032
this is goin back...

462
00:19:32,067 --> 00:19:33,655
I grew up on on a little horse
farm outside of Buffalo.

463
00:19:33,862 --> 00:19:34,863
In the middle of nowhere.

464
00:19:35,346 --> 00:19:36,520
We didn't have zombie stuff.

465
00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:37,935
We didn't have monster stuff.

466
00:19:38,211 --> 00:19:39,350
We didn't have anything, right?

467
00:19:39,385 --> 00:19:40,903
We had tractors.
We had all that stuff.

468
00:19:41,352 --> 00:19:44,597
But my Dad bought me this little
black & white Quasar television

469
00:19:44,631 --> 00:19:46,185
you put like 80 D batteries in.

470
00:19:46,219 --> 00:19:48,048
And then I used to travel
around with this thing.

471
00:19:48,083 --> 00:19:49,360
I used to go camping
with this thing.

472
00:19:49,395 --> 00:19:50,050
Everywhere.

473
00:19:50,913 --> 00:19:52,329
And I remember being so young,

474
00:19:52,363 --> 00:19:54,607
and one of my first
memories of this title

475
00:19:54,641 --> 00:19:55,815
Night of the Living Dead

476
00:19:55,849 --> 00:19:56,850
scared the shit out of me.

477
00:19:57,472 --> 00:20:01,061
And I was like: "I am not gonna
watch this movie ever".

478
00:20:01,855 --> 00:20:03,132
And then, one night,

479
00:20:03,478 --> 00:20:04,755
sleeping in the barn,

480
00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:06,101
cause that's what
I did in the summer.

481
00:20:06,135 --> 00:20:07,171
I never spent the night
in the house.

482
00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:07,965
I'd always camp out.

483
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:11,037
I had this black and white TV
and what comes on

484
00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:12,866
is Night of the Living Dead

485
00:20:12,901 --> 00:20:15,421
on a little
we're talkin 5 inch screen.

486
00:20:15,731 --> 00:20:17,975
and I sat as close
to that thing as I could,

487
00:20:18,009 --> 00:20:19,563
hoping the batteries
didn't run out.

488
00:20:19,597 --> 00:20:21,047
And I watched that whole movie

489
00:20:21,461 --> 00:20:23,325
from start to finish.

490
00:20:23,774 --> 00:20:25,914
And when I got done
watching that movie,

491
00:20:26,949 --> 00:20:28,951
I was...
I wasn't really frightened

492
00:20:28,986 --> 00:20:29,814
like scared.

493
00:20:30,056 --> 00:20:32,472
I was just so curious

494
00:20:32,783 --> 00:20:34,923
about this type of movie,

495
00:20:34,957 --> 00:20:36,787
and about...
This is black and white.

496
00:20:37,063 --> 00:20:38,064
There's monsters.

497
00:20:38,098 --> 00:20:40,031
There's people eating each other
in this thing.

498
00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:42,206
You know - and for me it
was just amazing

499
00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,483
to see that movie.

500
00:20:43,518 --> 00:20:45,830
And - and it resonates with me.

501
00:20:45,865 --> 00:20:47,591
You know, when people
think about nostalgia.

502
00:20:47,625 --> 00:20:49,144
That's what I do.
I do nostalgia painting.

503
00:20:49,178 --> 00:20:50,973
When people think about
nostalgia, it's all these

504
00:20:51,008 --> 00:20:52,423
wonderful memories
that come to you.

505
00:20:52,458 --> 00:20:53,424
And that, to me...

506
00:20:53,666 --> 00:20:55,115
I can still smell the barn.

507
00:20:55,150 --> 00:20:58,257
I still see myself sitting there
in the middle of the night,

508
00:20:58,291 --> 00:21:00,500
watching this little
black and white television.

509
00:21:00,535 --> 00:21:01,432
And I think...

510
00:21:02,226 --> 00:21:05,367
I'm - I'm really excited
that's how I got into it

511
00:21:05,402 --> 00:21:07,645
rather than somebody saying
oh watch this years later.

512
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,889
You know? I was very young when
I got into George Romero movies.

513
00:21:09,923 --> 00:21:10,855
How - how old were you?

514
00:21:10,890 --> 00:21:12,581
I think I was 9 or 10
when I watched it.

515
00:21:12,616 --> 00:21:14,618
Right? Um you're also talking
black and white carry around TV,

516
00:21:14,652 --> 00:21:15,826
So, yeah.

517
00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:18,829
But then I got into the other
movies later on and uh,

518
00:21:19,174 --> 00:21:19,968
those were all,

519
00:21:20,313 --> 00:21:22,419
I think Dawn was the
first or second movie

520
00:21:22,453 --> 00:21:23,972
I ever rented at a video store.

521
00:21:24,006 --> 00:21:25,422
So, yeah.

522
00:21:25,456 --> 00:21:27,527
That was - that was my life
for a long time - yeah.

523
00:21:27,562 --> 00:21:28,494
Watching those movies.

524
00:21:28,528 --> 00:21:29,495
[Director OC]
Bring in the slate.

525
00:21:30,358 --> 00:21:31,359
[Director OC]
Mark it.

526
00:21:31,807 --> 00:21:33,671
[Amy OC] Chasing Zombies
Interview with Jeanie,

527
00:21:33,706 --> 00:21:35,466
[Amy OC] take 1,
common mark. [slate claps]

528
00:21:36,847 --> 00:21:38,020
You have a pretty voice.

529
00:21:39,159 --> 00:21:40,471
[Director OC] Okay
Everbody settle.

530
00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:43,647
[Director OC] Action.
Take it Brenda.

531
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,201
[Brenda] Tell us about
the movies you were in.

532
00:21:47,340 --> 00:21:49,169
When I first moved to Chicago,

533
00:21:49,653 --> 00:21:51,448
I met a gal and I did - uh.

534
00:21:51,482 --> 00:21:54,278
I played um the prodigal mom
for this girl,

535
00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:55,521
but it never went anywhere.

536
00:21:55,831 --> 00:21:57,971
Anyway, my first movie was uh

537
00:21:58,006 --> 00:21:59,628
basically Dawn of the Dead.

538
00:22:00,215 --> 00:22:02,942
And that was
interesting because,

539
00:22:02,976 --> 00:22:04,461
I got into that because,

540
00:22:06,048 --> 00:22:07,533
I was the Iron City Beer girl.

541
00:22:08,741 --> 00:22:11,985
OK let's start with that
I was the Iron City Beer girl,

542
00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:16,058
and um then they came out with
uh Robin Hood Cream Ale.

543
00:22:16,093 --> 00:22:18,854
So I was giving away
beer samples

544
00:22:19,786 --> 00:22:21,374
to tons of people.

545
00:22:21,719 --> 00:22:22,858
and, um,

546
00:22:22,893 --> 00:22:24,998
this group of fellows were
sitting there,

547
00:22:25,033 --> 00:22:26,931
and this one guy was
watching me and he said:

548
00:22:26,966 --> 00:22:29,071
You seem really professional.

549
00:22:29,106 --> 00:22:32,351
Would you like to audition
to be the 96KX Call Girl?

550
00:22:32,558 --> 00:22:35,250
It was WTAE Radio in Pittsburgh.

551
00:22:35,595 --> 00:22:36,734
And, um,

552
00:22:36,769 --> 00:22:39,012
and they were gonna do
an FM station.

553
00:22:39,047 --> 00:22:41,290
Anyway I auditioned
I got hired.

554
00:22:41,877 --> 00:22:43,845
So at the end of that year,

555
00:22:43,879 --> 00:22:45,950
it was a whole year long I um,

556
00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:48,608
I did a Halloween costume party.

557
00:22:50,058 --> 00:22:53,544
I was to give away
$100 to the best costume.

558
00:22:53,579 --> 00:22:58,204
and I gave it to this huge
Darth Vader character.

559
00:22:58,238 --> 00:23:00,206
He took off his thing
and it was Tom Savini!

560
00:23:00,620 --> 00:23:01,276
What??

561
00:23:01,587 --> 00:23:02,622
Tom's a legend.

562
00:23:02,657 --> 00:23:04,555
Now I didn't know who
Tom Savini was

563
00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:05,936
and I didn't know George Romero

564
00:23:05,970 --> 00:23:08,628
or and I didn't know movies
or anything - but anyway.

565
00:23:09,077 --> 00:23:13,392
Um Tom - I gave Tom
his $100 bill [laughs]

566
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,566
and, um then he said:

567
00:23:15,601 --> 00:23:17,568
Do - can you do
makeup by any chance?

568
00:23:17,603 --> 00:23:19,087
And I said: "Oh actually
I do makeup".

569
00:23:19,121 --> 00:23:21,503
I do makeup for photos.

570
00:23:21,538 --> 00:23:24,541
And Tom said he
couldn't do straight makeup.

571
00:23:24,575 --> 00:23:26,232
He was into special effects.

572
00:23:26,646 --> 00:23:30,098
So I said: "Yeah, I can
certainally help you with that".

573
00:23:30,305 --> 00:23:33,066
So I missed 2 weeks
of Dawn of the the Dead,

574
00:23:33,308 --> 00:23:34,965
but it was because of Tom Savini

575
00:23:34,999 --> 00:23:37,623
and me giving him the $100
for the Darth Vader.

576
00:23:37,657 --> 00:23:40,902
And um that started my career
meeting George Romero.

577
00:23:41,247 --> 00:23:43,663
Yeah, I met Tom
Gave him his $100.

578
00:23:43,698 --> 00:23:44,975
And the next day,

579
00:23:45,009 --> 00:23:47,218
we went into George Romero

580
00:23:47,253 --> 00:23:49,255
and he said: "George
this is Jeanie".

581
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,603
I'd like to hire her as my
#1 makeup assistant.

582
00:23:52,638 --> 00:23:54,467
And George said: "Hi, Jeanie
You're welcome.

583
00:23:54,502 --> 00:23:56,365
Ba - ba - ba [hands clap]
Done deal.

584
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,368
After Dawn of the Dead then
became uh Knightriders.

585
00:23:59,817 --> 00:24:02,924
And Knightriders I was
actually hired by George

586
00:24:02,958 --> 00:24:05,478
to be the Director of Makeup,

587
00:24:05,789 --> 00:24:08,274
and the guy that I
played my scene with

588
00:24:08,308 --> 00:24:11,760
with Knightriders was
Marty F- You know

589
00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:14,107
Yeah - Ferrero. Thank you, um.

590
00:24:14,142 --> 00:24:16,420
[Jeanie OC] He called me
after Knightriders was over

591
00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:17,421
and he said

592
00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:20,666
I just read for a script
for uh Jurassic Park.

593
00:24:21,321 --> 00:24:24,083
And he was the one
that got eaten off the toilet.

594
00:24:24,117 --> 00:24:27,155
[T-Rex snarling-Marty screaming]

595
00:24:27,189 --> 00:24:29,847
What?? Uh!

596
00:24:29,882 --> 00:24:32,540
And then Ha...Ed Harris
I did his makeup

597
00:24:32,954 --> 00:24:34,818
every single day
in Knightriders.

598
00:24:35,577 --> 00:24:40,582
and I-I believe Ed said that
was his 2nd movie ever ever ever

599
00:24:40,617 --> 00:24:44,724
and look at him. Apollo 13, In
The Abyss and everything else.

600
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,245
[Brenda OC] It's so interesting
how one thing leads to another.

601
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,385
Oh it's timing,
yeah you're right.

602
00:24:51,213 --> 00:24:53,250
One thing leads to another
as you say.

603
00:24:53,284 --> 00:24:55,424
You have to be at the
right place at the right time.

604
00:24:56,115 --> 00:24:58,807
And thanks. There's like 16 17
people here right now

605
00:24:58,842 --> 00:25:00,188
[Jeanie continues]
that people can't see.

606
00:25:00,568 --> 00:25:03,398
It's like God Bless you all.
[laughter]

607
00:25:03,432 --> 00:25:05,918
[Brenda OC] So if you hadn't
had that Halloween party...

608
00:25:06,712 --> 00:25:09,611
I would not have ever
met George Romero.

609
00:25:09,956 --> 00:25:15,652
♪ spooky music ♪

610
00:25:17,585 --> 00:25:18,758
[phone ringing]

611
00:25:23,418 --> 00:25:24,108
Hello?

612
00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:25,558
[Avery's voice on phone]
Hey, Samantha.

613
00:25:25,593 --> 00:25:27,111
How'd your creature project go?

614
00:25:27,146 --> 00:25:28,872
It actually went really great.

615
00:25:28,906 --> 00:25:31,184
[Samantha's voice on phone] How
did yours and Nate's filming go?

616
00:25:31,668 --> 00:25:34,084
Well, we finished it,
but on our way out

617
00:25:34,118 --> 00:25:36,258
we literally ran into
Sean and Richard.

618
00:25:36,293 --> 00:25:37,225
I think they're on to us.

619
00:25:37,259 --> 00:25:38,778
I think so too.

620
00:25:38,813 --> 00:25:41,470
I saw Amy and Liz
talking to them this morning,

621
00:25:41,505 --> 00:25:43,956
but when they saw me,
they stopped talking.

622
00:25:44,301 --> 00:25:46,268
[Samantha's voice on phone]
Well, I mean, except for Sean.

623
00:25:46,614 --> 00:25:49,202
[Samantha's voice on phone] When
he saw me he said Hi and smiled.

624
00:25:49,237 --> 00:25:51,204
Hm You're really into him, huh?

625
00:25:51,826 --> 00:25:53,068
[Samantha on phone]
Is it that obvious?

626
00:25:53,828 --> 00:25:56,382
Uh, Samantha - everyone knows.

627
00:25:59,454 --> 00:26:01,870
Wait.
I think Nate's calling me.

628
00:26:03,285 --> 00:26:04,286
Nate, you there?

629
00:26:05,149 --> 00:26:06,047
Hello.

630
00:26:06,668 --> 00:26:07,082
Hey, Nate.

631
00:26:07,496 --> 00:26:08,049
Hey, Nate.

632
00:26:08,601 --> 00:26:09,291
Hey, what's up?

633
00:26:10,085 --> 00:26:12,812
So where were you after
we ran into Richard and Sean?

634
00:26:13,054 --> 00:26:14,573
I thought we were
supposed to meet at Savini?

635
00:26:14,814 --> 00:26:16,713
Oh, I'm sorry.
I ran into Mr. Williams.

636
00:26:16,747 --> 00:26:19,405
I had a paper due
and he is riding my ass.

637
00:26:19,819 --> 00:26:21,683
He thinks I could be a writer.

638
00:26:22,442 --> 00:26:24,099
[scoffs] Good luck with that.

639
00:26:24,134 --> 00:26:26,654
Um anyways,
About our game plan.

640
00:26:26,964 --> 00:26:29,933
Yeah, David and Deion
are definitely on our team.

641
00:26:30,312 --> 00:26:30,865
Good.

642
00:26:31,866 --> 00:26:34,696
God, you are really
serious about this.

643
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:36,249
[Nate on phone] Absoutely.

644
00:26:36,802 --> 00:26:39,943
The school's been playing
Humans vs. Zombies for 23 years.

645
00:26:39,977 --> 00:26:42,152
Hell, my Dad was on
the first winning team.

646
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,603
This year is the first time
I have a chance to win.

647
00:26:45,569 --> 00:26:48,123
Didn't this whole thing start
out as a hide and seek game?

648
00:26:48,537 --> 00:26:50,539
Yep, but every year
the game changes.

649
00:26:51,161 --> 00:26:54,613
Dude I saw the video you sent me
of when they played paintball...

650
00:26:55,441 --> 00:26:59,031
[paintball gunshots]

651
00:27:00,688 --> 00:27:02,103
Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't there.

652
00:27:02,137 --> 00:27:04,036
That was brutal!

653
00:27:04,381 --> 00:27:06,970
But now that the game's gone
back to the original format,

654
00:27:07,004 --> 00:27:09,351
[on phone] we might actually
have a better chance of winning.

655
00:27:09,593 --> 00:27:12,147
Why cause we're smaller
and we can hide easier?

656
00:27:12,803 --> 00:27:14,287
Huh, yeah that's funny,

657
00:27:14,322 --> 00:27:17,636
[on phone] but they're doing it
at night so no advantage there.

658
00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:20,708
Yeah, they're gonna have a
hard time hiding. They're huge.

659
00:27:21,329 --> 00:27:22,641
I wouldn't be so sure.

660
00:27:22,675 --> 00:27:24,539
Sean's captain of the
Zombies this year,

661
00:27:24,573 --> 00:27:26,023
[on phone] and he's fast,

662
00:27:26,058 --> 00:27:27,059
and very smart.

663
00:27:27,438 --> 00:27:29,648
Alright, hey,
let's get back to the plan.

664
00:27:29,682 --> 00:27:31,028
Wait, what plan?

665
00:27:31,822 --> 00:27:34,307
Well, Nate got some
glow in the dark makeup,

666
00:27:34,342 --> 00:27:36,965
and we're gonna mix it in
with the Zombie makeup.

667
00:27:37,172 --> 00:27:38,173
Is that fair?

668
00:27:38,726 --> 00:27:40,279
How are you even sure
they're gonna use it?

669
00:27:40,762 --> 00:27:41,694
I'm positive.

670
00:27:41,729 --> 00:27:43,558
They're gonna use it
for their portfolios.

671
00:27:44,007 --> 00:27:45,215
Aren't they gonna
be able to tell

672
00:27:45,249 --> 00:27:46,492
that the makeup
glows in the dark?

673
00:27:47,562 --> 00:27:49,081
[Nate on phone]
Not as long as it's outside.

674
00:27:49,426 --> 00:27:50,565
After we get into the park

675
00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:52,394
and everyone scatters,
it will be light.

676
00:27:52,601 --> 00:27:53,568
When the sun goes down

677
00:27:53,602 --> 00:27:55,570
and Boom! So does their faces.

678
00:27:56,226 --> 00:27:57,917
Nate, how can you
do this to Sean

679
00:27:57,952 --> 00:28:00,023
after he agreed
to help you tomorrow?

680
00:28:00,851 --> 00:28:02,750
Did you forget about
what happened last year?

681
00:28:03,302 --> 00:28:05,200
During the
Dawn of the Dead Jeopardy game?

682
00:28:05,511 --> 00:28:07,755
Yeah, our advisor
was your uncle.

683
00:28:07,789 --> 00:28:10,550
He was just one of a
zillion parking lot zombies.

684
00:28:10,585 --> 00:28:12,449
But they brought in
Bob Michelucci.

685
00:28:12,483 --> 00:28:14,727
[on phone] That guy published
books about George Romero.

686
00:28:14,934 --> 00:28:16,177
That wasn't cheating?

687
00:28:17,005 --> 00:28:19,594
Look, they just outsmarted us
plain and simple.

688
00:28:19,628 --> 00:28:21,009
Now we're turning the tables.

689
00:28:21,044 --> 00:28:23,080
The Zombie team takes
great pride in their makeup

690
00:28:23,322 --> 00:28:25,013
and we're gonna
use that against them.

691
00:28:25,738 --> 00:28:28,603
How are you gonna
get it into their kit?

692
00:28:28,879 --> 00:28:29,880
Already took care of that.

693
00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:32,434
Deion has a class
with Amy in the morning.

694
00:28:32,469 --> 00:28:34,264
He's gonna
mix it into their kits.

695
00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,231
♪ heavy metal music ♪

696
00:28:36,266 --> 00:28:37,267
[Zombies groaning]

697
00:28:38,130 --> 00:28:39,096
[Crowd yelling]

698
00:28:39,131 --> 00:28:40,442
You come all the way
over from England.

699
00:28:40,477 --> 00:28:41,478
Yes, that's right, yeah.

700
00:28:41,512 --> 00:28:43,100
You come to a
lot of these conventions?

701
00:28:43,135 --> 00:28:45,585
I only come to the Living Dead
Weekend here in Pittsburgh,

702
00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:47,898
or Monroeville - Monroeville.

703
00:28:48,554 --> 00:28:50,211
Because, uh, this

704
00:28:50,452 --> 00:28:52,661
particular type of convention

705
00:28:52,903 --> 00:28:54,353
just seems to be so

706
00:28:54,836 --> 00:28:56,320
so family close.

707
00:28:56,769 --> 00:28:58,598
You know, and we
meet the same people.

708
00:28:59,013 --> 00:29:01,360
We have a little family
of friends that, you know,

709
00:29:01,394 --> 00:29:02,982
that come here every year,

710
00:29:03,224 --> 00:29:06,054
and it's great because they've
really embraced me,

711
00:29:06,089 --> 00:29:07,815
you know coming from the UK,

712
00:29:08,229 --> 00:29:09,851
and I'll always
keep coming back.

713
00:29:10,472 --> 00:29:12,336
That's fantastic.
How about you, Shawn?

714
00:29:12,371 --> 00:29:13,993
You know, I'm
coming from Ithica NY.

715
00:29:14,028 --> 00:29:17,479
The love for George
is all over the United States,

716
00:29:18,101 --> 00:29:19,274
all over the country,

717
00:29:19,309 --> 00:29:21,587
and like it's an
amazing feeling to just

718
00:29:22,381 --> 00:29:24,935
have the George Romero
experience in your blood,

719
00:29:24,970 --> 00:29:25,902
you know? It's like,

720
00:29:26,523 --> 00:29:27,558
it captures you.

721
00:29:28,387 --> 00:29:30,078
It does - it does
and then, so

722
00:29:30,113 --> 00:29:33,185
obviously George is very
influential in a lot of today's

723
00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:35,808
Zombie films and things.
What is your...

724
00:29:35,843 --> 00:29:37,189
Do you remember your-your first

725
00:29:37,223 --> 00:29:39,122
experience with
George Romero films,

726
00:29:39,156 --> 00:29:41,434
and what hooked you?
What grabbed you?

727
00:29:41,469 --> 00:29:44,437
My first experience was
Night of the Living Dead,

728
00:29:44,886 --> 00:29:46,267
and my Dad was watching it,

729
00:29:46,301 --> 00:29:47,682
and I happened to be
going down, you know,

730
00:29:47,716 --> 00:29:50,478
downstairs. And there's Dad
watching it and,

731
00:29:51,479 --> 00:29:53,964
I loved the scene in the
cemetary part in the beginning.

732
00:29:53,999 --> 00:29:54,965
The eeriness of the music...

733
00:29:55,552 --> 00:29:57,174
♪eerie music
Stop in now I mean it.

734
00:29:57,588 --> 00:30:00,143
They're coming
to get you Barbara.

735
00:30:00,695 --> 00:30:02,973
That was the famous line.
It was - I was hooked.

736
00:30:03,008 --> 00:30:05,079
I was like this is really good.

737
00:30:05,113 --> 00:30:06,770
My Dad got us at 12 years old.

738
00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:07,840
We were watching horror films,

739
00:30:07,875 --> 00:30:09,911
and I was like,
my mother would be like:

740
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,879
No no you can't watch that.

741
00:30:11,913 --> 00:30:13,501
And I'd be
sneaking out of my room

742
00:30:13,535 --> 00:30:15,261
just to wanna sit there
and watch it with my Dad,

743
00:30:15,296 --> 00:30:16,055
cause it was just...

744
00:30:16,331 --> 00:30:18,161
The fascination of being hooked

745
00:30:18,575 --> 00:30:20,542
into the horror industry.
I loved it.

746
00:30:20,577 --> 00:30:22,234
So obviously Dad won that one.

747
00:30:23,407 --> 00:30:25,168
So what about you? What was
your first memory,

748
00:30:25,202 --> 00:30:26,307
first experience
with George Romero?

749
00:30:26,341 --> 00:30:27,895
Oh my first experience...

750
00:30:27,929 --> 00:30:30,380
I can remember it
just like yesterday.

751
00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:32,002
I was a young boy,

752
00:30:32,209 --> 00:30:35,281
and I just came back from one
of these little school outings.

753
00:30:35,316 --> 00:30:38,146
You know. I think the
year was about 1982,

754
00:30:39,251 --> 00:30:41,805
and my Dad had rented out this

755
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,221
this big VHS.
You had to...

756
00:30:44,256 --> 00:30:46,430
This huge VHS cover
back in the 80's,

757
00:30:46,465 --> 00:30:48,122
you know, you
you had to just about

758
00:30:48,156 --> 00:30:49,192
yank open,

759
00:30:49,399 --> 00:30:51,228
and it was - it was
Dawn of the Dead.

760
00:30:51,884 --> 00:30:54,680
Now what happened is that
Dad started watchin this movie,

761
00:30:54,714 --> 00:30:57,200
and I had, being
that age at the time,

762
00:30:57,234 --> 00:30:58,926
I had to go to bed early.

763
00:30:59,133 --> 00:31:00,928
So mother turned around
and said to me..

764
00:31:00,962 --> 00:31:03,723
She says" Don't go downstairs
for God's sake"

765
00:31:03,965 --> 00:31:05,656
"Your father's
watchin this film,

766
00:31:05,691 --> 00:31:09,177
there's all these people biting
each other's necks and arms".

767
00:31:09,729 --> 00:31:12,974
[woman screaming]

768
00:31:13,492 --> 00:31:16,184
So of course being a
7 year old boy at the time,

769
00:31:16,219 --> 00:31:17,151
you get inquisitive.

770
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:19,705
So I decided to get
out of the bed,

771
00:31:20,361 --> 00:31:22,950
and where I was,
you had the stairway,

772
00:31:23,812 --> 00:31:25,366
and from the
top of that stairway

773
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,816
from the bedroom,
you could see clearly

774
00:31:28,265 --> 00:31:30,440
into the front room
where the television was.

775
00:31:31,061 --> 00:31:33,236
So I sort of put my head down

776
00:31:33,270 --> 00:31:34,927
and I caught the bit
where Renee Banks,

777
00:31:34,962 --> 00:31:36,273
you know, all this hair

778
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:38,103
came out and the SWAT team

779
00:31:38,137 --> 00:31:39,656
were in there wrestling
with Scott Reiniger.

780
00:31:40,243 --> 00:31:42,176
[multiple gunshots]

781
00:31:42,797 --> 00:31:45,489
and I went: "Oh God",

782
00:31:45,524 --> 00:31:47,595
you know, and I pulled the
sheets over the top of me head.

783
00:31:47,836 --> 00:31:50,115
But I watched it again
a few years later.

784
00:31:50,529 --> 00:31:51,910
And I don't know - it just...

785
00:31:52,324 --> 00:31:53,981
it just caught me.

786
00:31:54,464 --> 00:31:55,672
And I had to watch
the whole lot.

787
00:31:55,706 --> 00:31:57,294
I had to start with
Night of the Living Dead.

788
00:31:57,329 --> 00:31:59,296
I had to start you know
watching Dawn of the Dead

789
00:31:59,331 --> 00:32:00,953
religiously. I can't say
how many times

790
00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:01,954
I've seen the film now,

791
00:32:02,299 --> 00:32:03,231
but it's a lot.

792
00:32:03,266 --> 00:32:04,474
And I went on with
Day of the Dead,

793
00:32:04,957 --> 00:32:07,097
Land of the Dead,
and ever since then,

794
00:32:07,132 --> 00:32:08,650
you know, I've just become

795
00:32:08,685 --> 00:32:11,343
a George A. Romero lover.

796
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:14,070
He certainly left something
very loving and close

797
00:32:14,967 --> 00:32:16,348
behind and,

798
00:32:16,382 --> 00:32:18,626
and we will continue
the legacy for him.

799
00:32:18,867 --> 00:32:20,317
[Larry OC] How did you first
get acquainted

800
00:32:20,352 --> 00:32:22,630
with George Romero
and his films?

801
00:32:22,664 --> 00:32:24,494
Well, Uh I've been a fan

802
00:32:24,528 --> 00:32:25,460
of Night of the Living Dead

803
00:32:25,495 --> 00:32:26,496
ever since I first saw it

804
00:32:27,048 --> 00:32:28,981
which was a drive-in movie

805
00:32:29,016 --> 00:32:30,465
on a double bill with Willard.

806
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:34,262
And I've been a fan of the
movie ever since.

807
00:32:35,298 --> 00:32:37,196
[Larry OC] What furthered
your fascination

808
00:32:37,231 --> 00:32:38,335
with these movies?

809
00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:41,131
Did you have contact with
any of the actors?

810
00:32:41,511 --> 00:32:42,961
Uh, Yes, actually.

811
00:32:42,995 --> 00:32:43,996
I wrote a fan letter

812
00:32:44,031 --> 00:32:44,963
to Kyra Schon

813
00:32:44,997 --> 00:32:46,792
who played Karen in the movie.

814
00:32:47,103 --> 00:32:51,107
And we were corresponding,
this was back in 1979.

815
00:32:51,141 --> 00:32:52,763
I was a teenager

816
00:32:52,798 --> 00:32:54,144
and she was just
like in college.

817
00:32:54,351 --> 00:32:57,492
and we were corresponding
back and forth,

818
00:32:57,527 --> 00:32:59,770
and we really became friends.

819
00:32:59,805 --> 00:33:00,737
Shortly after,

820
00:33:01,255 --> 00:33:03,153
Questar Magazine came out,

821
00:33:03,188 --> 00:33:06,467
and one of the articles they did
in Questar Magazine

822
00:33:06,501 --> 00:33:08,331
was about
Night of the Living Dead:

823
00:33:08,365 --> 00:33:09,780
Where Are They Now?

824
00:33:09,815 --> 00:33:11,161
And they interviewed Kyra,

825
00:33:11,403 --> 00:33:14,199
and she actually stated
in that interview

826
00:33:14,406 --> 00:33:15,890
is that, um

827
00:33:16,235 --> 00:33:18,720
one of the fringe benefits
that I had received from

828
00:33:18,755 --> 00:33:20,032
being in the movie

829
00:33:20,239 --> 00:33:21,965
was that a 15 year old boy

830
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,036
had contacted me from Florida.

831
00:33:24,071 --> 00:33:26,314
And we'd been corresponding
ever since.

832
00:33:26,349 --> 00:33:29,007
And that we had become
uh more of friends

833
00:33:29,041 --> 00:33:30,939
instead of just, you know
a fan.

834
00:33:31,906 --> 00:33:33,908
[Larry] Did your
friendship with Kyra

835
00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:37,808
help you secure a role in
George Romero's Day of the Dead?

836
00:33:38,499 --> 00:33:40,915
Um, well not directly but

837
00:33:40,949 --> 00:33:43,538
it definitely pointed me
in the right direction.

838
00:33:43,573 --> 00:33:48,095
Because when my uh mentor
and teacher from

839
00:33:48,371 --> 00:33:49,889
the High School that I was at

840
00:33:50,131 --> 00:33:52,927
uh had a video production course

841
00:33:53,238 --> 00:33:56,862
and uh he called me
uh and he said

842
00:33:57,380 --> 00:33:59,382
George Romero was
making a sequel to

843
00:33:59,416 --> 00:34:01,694
Night of the Living Dead
in Florida.

844
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:04,732
[Miguel OC on megaphone]
"Is anyone there?"

845
00:34:04,766 --> 00:34:07,424
And uh he's going to be
looking for extras.

846
00:34:07,459 --> 00:34:08,908
Why don't you call him?

847
00:34:08,943 --> 00:34:10,496
[Larry OC] And were
you living in Florida?

848
00:34:10,531 --> 00:34:12,740
That's right, I was livinig in
uh Port Charlotte Florida which

849
00:34:12,774 --> 00:34:16,778
is about 25 miles north of where
he was going to be filming.

850
00:34:17,227 --> 00:34:21,300
So I contacted Kyra and I said,
Kyra is it true?

851
00:34:21,818 --> 00:34:22,957
And she said yes,

852
00:34:23,337 --> 00:34:25,925
the name of his film company
is Sanibel Films.

853
00:34:26,340 --> 00:34:28,618
Uh, here's the number.
Give him a call

854
00:34:28,652 --> 00:34:32,035
and tell him you want to be
involved in Day of the Dead.

855
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:33,761
[Larry] Did he actually
answer the phone?

856
00:34:33,795 --> 00:34:37,247
That's right. George Romero
actually answered the phone

857
00:34:37,454 --> 00:34:39,077
and I told him who I was,

858
00:34:39,491 --> 00:34:41,009
why I was calling,

859
00:34:41,251 --> 00:34:42,425
and who had referred me.

860
00:34:42,873 --> 00:34:46,153
And he said my wife Christine
Christine Forrest

861
00:34:46,187 --> 00:34:48,155
was helping with the casting.

862
00:34:48,362 --> 00:34:50,364
And he says
let me take your information.

863
00:34:50,398 --> 00:34:53,091
I will have Christine
get back with you

864
00:34:53,125 --> 00:34:54,609
and we'll go from there.

865
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,990
[Larry] Describe for us

866
00:34:56,024 --> 00:34:58,026
the day you went to the set
to shoot your scene?

867
00:34:58,303 --> 00:35:00,857
OK well they bussed us out
there-they got us out there,

868
00:35:00,891 --> 00:35:02,514
the sun's just starting
to come up

869
00:35:02,548 --> 00:35:04,757
and we're all
lined up out there.

870
00:35:04,792 --> 00:35:06,725
I see Christine Forrest
running around,

871
00:35:06,759 --> 00:35:08,002
then I see Tom Savini.

872
00:35:08,278 --> 00:35:10,625
And Tom Savini
comes in front of the crowd.

873
00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:12,627
And I was 19 at the time

874
00:35:12,662 --> 00:35:15,113
but I looked like
I was 12 or 13.

875
00:35:15,665 --> 00:35:17,184
And he looked at me

876
00:35:17,218 --> 00:35:18,185
and he says:

877
00:35:18,495 --> 00:35:19,703
"I'm gonna start with you".

878
00:35:20,221 --> 00:35:21,498
"Come on over".

879
00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:24,950
"I think I'm gonna make you
kind of uh a fresh kill".

880
00:35:25,364 --> 00:35:28,195
So I really didn't have
that much makeup on.

881
00:35:28,229 --> 00:35:29,196
It was just base makeup,

882
00:35:29,575 --> 00:35:32,337
and the football dark circles
under the eyes.

883
00:35:32,371 --> 00:35:35,512
I mean I looked pretty much like
I did when I was alive,

884
00:35:35,547 --> 00:35:37,169
except he had me, uh,

885
00:35:37,204 --> 00:35:39,482
you know, he toned
down to a greenish color.

886
00:35:44,314 --> 00:35:45,833
So how lucky are we, huh?

887
00:35:46,178 --> 00:35:47,904
We are so lucky, oh my God.

888
00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:49,008
So, Larry,

889
00:35:49,043 --> 00:35:53,220
how did you get roped up
in all this Romero stuff?

890
00:35:53,254 --> 00:35:55,118
Well, that's pretty interesting.

891
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:57,741
It all stems from
Dawn of the Dead, actually.

892
00:35:57,776 --> 00:35:59,881
I watched that as
an 8 year old, and

893
00:36:00,330 --> 00:36:01,676
8 year old.

894
00:36:01,711 --> 00:36:02,884
Yes-yes.

895
00:36:02,919 --> 00:36:04,334
What the hell's
wrong with your mother?

896
00:36:04,369 --> 00:36:07,268
[Larry OC] I was just captivated
by somebody taking over a mall.

897
00:36:07,303 --> 00:36:09,063
You know, the
main characters in the movie

898
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:11,824
took over a mall, and,

899
00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:13,171
it wasn't the zombies like that

900
00:36:13,205 --> 00:36:14,551
you know, I wasn't scared.

901
00:36:14,586 --> 00:36:16,415
I wasn't affected by
the gore, blood, guts

902
00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:17,727
or anything like that.

903
00:36:17,761 --> 00:36:18,693
It was taking over a mall.

904
00:36:18,728 --> 00:36:20,454
I thought it was
the coolest thing ever.

905
00:36:20,661 --> 00:36:23,974
I was actually living
in Monroeville at the time,

906
00:36:24,009 --> 00:36:25,666
um, and I used to go to the mall

907
00:36:26,253 --> 00:36:27,254
couple times a week.

908
00:36:27,633 --> 00:36:30,118
And then I'd heard that, um,

909
00:36:30,153 --> 00:36:32,569
they were they were filming
some kind of movie there.

910
00:36:32,604 --> 00:36:34,502
I didn't know what it was,

911
00:36:34,537 --> 00:36:36,124
but I knew who
George Romero was.

912
00:36:36,573 --> 00:36:37,954
Uh, and uh...

913
00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:42,407
At that time a f-friend
of mine and I

914
00:36:42,441 --> 00:36:44,409
went in on a comic book store,

915
00:36:44,685 --> 00:36:46,411
uh, in Bloomfield,

916
00:36:46,963 --> 00:36:48,551
not knowing that

917
00:36:49,207 --> 00:36:50,553
right across the street

918
00:36:50,967 --> 00:36:52,762
[Mike OC] is where
Tom Savini lived.

919
00:36:52,969 --> 00:36:55,143
Uh, and uh,

920
00:36:55,178 --> 00:36:58,423
this is one of my - one of my
favorite things about life.

921
00:36:58,457 --> 00:37:03,669
How you can make one decision

922
00:37:03,704 --> 00:37:06,741
that you think is
completely random.

923
00:37:07,742 --> 00:37:12,126
I was supposed to work at
the comic store on Saturdays

924
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,092
because I had a full time job.

925
00:37:13,127 --> 00:37:14,818
I was a psychotherapist

926
00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:18,305
right up the hill at
at Western Psych

927
00:37:18,339 --> 00:37:21,100
in Geriatric Psychiatry.
So that's what I was doing.

928
00:37:21,446 --> 00:37:23,241
So I I'm at the comic store.

929
00:37:23,275 --> 00:37:25,415
Savini walks in the door,

930
00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:28,107
and of course you know carries
on a conversation with him.

931
00:37:28,142 --> 00:37:30,248
I had all these really
cool movie posters

932
00:37:30,282 --> 00:37:32,526
that he was
interested in as well.

933
00:37:33,458 --> 00:37:36,944
But what if I,
you know, decided, uh.

934
00:37:36,978 --> 00:37:40,258
You know I wanted to go skiing
or something else that day,

935
00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:41,914
or had another engagement.

936
00:37:41,949 --> 00:37:44,469
If I wasn't in
that store that day

937
00:37:44,952 --> 00:37:47,472
when Tom walked in, he would
have met my buddy,

938
00:37:47,713 --> 00:37:50,613
and my buddy might have been
in Day of the Dead.

939
00:37:50,958 --> 00:37:53,340
But Tom and I, you know, uh

940
00:37:53,374 --> 00:37:56,446
started talking more and more,
and one thing lead to another.

941
00:37:57,516 --> 00:38:01,486
After doing Day of the Dead and
Invasion USA back to back,

942
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,455
I was fortunate enough to be an
extra in bigger budget films

943
00:38:05,662 --> 00:38:09,459
like Twister, Titanic
Poseidon and Godzilla,

944
00:38:09,494 --> 00:38:11,910
you know, which was
an amazing experience.

945
00:38:11,944 --> 00:38:14,222
But no one ever asks me,

946
00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:16,535
when I come
to these conventions,

947
00:38:16,777 --> 00:38:18,226
about those films.

948
00:38:18,675 --> 00:38:20,988
They ask me about
Day of the Dead,

949
00:38:21,229 --> 00:38:22,334
and what it was like,

950
00:38:22,369 --> 00:38:25,337
and how I would describe
working with George Romero.

951
00:38:26,442 --> 00:38:28,892
[Larry] So Day of the Dead
was a major part of your life.

952
00:38:28,927 --> 00:38:31,861
Actually, to be quite honest,

953
00:38:31,895 --> 00:38:35,865
I wouldn't have gotten those
jobs in those films

954
00:38:35,899 --> 00:38:38,764
but for my experience
with George Romero.

955
00:38:38,799 --> 00:38:39,765
Beccause, here's why.

956
00:38:40,110 --> 00:38:42,872
I mean, they have my resume.
They look at this,

957
00:38:42,906 --> 00:38:44,598
and then when they get to
the bottom of the page

958
00:38:44,632 --> 00:38:45,875
of that resume, they're like:

959
00:38:45,909 --> 00:38:50,155
Wow, you got to work with George
Romero, uh, in one of his films.

960
00:38:50,189 --> 00:38:52,709
I go Yes - Day of the Dead
was my first film.

961
00:38:52,744 --> 00:38:55,712
I was the Football Player
Zombie. Well, after that

962
00:38:55,747 --> 00:38:58,646
it kinda changed the whole
pitch of the interview.

963
00:38:58,681 --> 00:39:02,340
I wouldn't - I would not only
not have gotten those jobs

964
00:39:02,374 --> 00:39:03,789
in those other features films.

965
00:39:04,065 --> 00:39:06,344
I - I don't think I even
would have gotten an interview.

966
00:39:06,723 --> 00:39:10,831
♪♪ spooky music ♪

967
00:39:19,046 --> 00:39:21,600
So, are we
still going through with this?

968
00:39:22,152 --> 00:39:24,810
You guys have been playing
too many video games.

969
00:39:25,052 --> 00:39:26,950
How do you feel when you find
a cheat that helps you win?

970
00:39:27,503 --> 00:39:29,677
David - Like a winner.
Nate - Everybody uses it.

971
00:39:29,712 --> 00:39:30,678
But this isn't a video game.

972
00:39:30,713 --> 00:39:32,197
If we win because we do this

973
00:39:32,231 --> 00:39:33,888
then it's not gonna feel right.

974
00:39:33,923 --> 00:39:35,683
I mean I wanna win fairly.

975
00:39:36,201 --> 00:39:37,789
Okayyyy.

976
00:39:38,203 --> 00:39:39,653
When you tell your Dad about it

977
00:39:39,998 --> 00:39:41,068
are you gonna leave
the part out with

978
00:39:41,102 --> 00:39:42,103
the glow in the dark makeup?

979
00:39:42,621 --> 00:39:43,450
Yeah,

980
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,383
I guess I'd probably
leave that part out.

981
00:39:45,831 --> 00:39:47,902
Well, what's that say?

982
00:39:47,937 --> 00:39:50,146
Hey, Nate.
You behaving yourself?

983
00:39:50,422 --> 00:39:52,700
Only every second of
everyday ever Mr. WIlliams.

984
00:39:53,563 --> 00:39:54,219
Huh.

985
00:39:55,013 --> 00:39:57,222
I'm trusting you two
to keep an eye on him.

986
00:39:58,050 --> 00:39:59,051
Yes, sir.

987
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,298
One thing about
I'd want to tell you about uh,

988
00:40:05,299 --> 00:40:06,852
uh , Creepshow,

989
00:40:07,266 --> 00:40:08,440
Is for me,

990
00:40:08,785 --> 00:40:10,131
it was a great experience

991
00:40:10,166 --> 00:40:11,478
because I got to see,

992
00:40:11,995 --> 00:40:13,514
uh, how

993
00:40:13,825 --> 00:40:15,240
for the first time,

994
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:18,070
how a major motion picture
is made.

995
00:40:19,658 --> 00:40:20,314
Yeah.

996
00:40:20,348 --> 00:40:22,627
And I got to see how, uh,

997
00:40:22,661 --> 00:40:25,284
how George worked
as the director.

998
00:40:25,319 --> 00:40:27,183
How people on the set worked.

999
00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:30,393
How Tom Savini worked,

1000
00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:32,947
using, uh,
doing special effects,

1001
00:40:33,361 --> 00:40:36,434
like the, uh,
monster in the crate,

1002
00:40:37,158 --> 00:40:38,436
uh, em,

1003
00:40:39,022 --> 00:40:42,474
Fluffy, uh, which is
sitting behind me. Yes.

1004
00:40:42,785 --> 00:40:45,960
And uh how he
how he worked him,

1005
00:40:46,305 --> 00:40:50,827
you know, using hydraulics
at different times.

1006
00:40:51,034 --> 00:40:53,934
There wasn't always
a person in the suit.

1007
00:40:54,521 --> 00:40:57,282
You know, and I was there
all the time.

1008
00:40:58,352 --> 00:40:59,353
Uh, also,

1009
00:41:00,147 --> 00:41:00,803
um,

1010
00:41:01,873 --> 00:41:03,322
I realized how,

1011
00:41:03,944 --> 00:41:05,739
uh, how time is money because

1012
00:41:06,015 --> 00:41:08,120
there was a point where that

1013
00:41:08,155 --> 00:41:12,228
the, uh, something
the, uh, the blood splatter

1014
00:41:12,504 --> 00:41:13,471
in the lab,

1015
00:41:20,029 --> 00:41:22,134
uh, and I think it was
when the, uh,

1016
00:41:22,549 --> 00:41:25,483
when the, uh,
the janitor was killed.

1017
00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:29,521
There was something that
the blood splatter,

1018
00:41:29,556 --> 00:41:30,522
somebody cleaned it
or something.

1019
00:41:31,316 --> 00:41:32,351
So it wasn't there

1020
00:41:32,386 --> 00:41:35,078
even though it had
been in the shot before.

1021
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,184
So we had to wait

1022
00:41:37,218 --> 00:41:40,221
until they did that and that
took like half a day and,

1023
00:41:40,256 --> 00:41:43,052
it was, you know,
thousands of dollars.

1024
00:41:43,466 --> 00:41:48,747
[Mike OC] Can you somehow
describe what it is

1025
00:41:48,782 --> 00:41:52,820
that draws us so much into
that George Romero universe.

1026
00:41:52,855 --> 00:41:55,996
Why it touches a chord
in so many people.

1027
00:41:56,444 --> 00:41:58,550
I can't. I'm not sure exactly,

1028
00:41:59,171 --> 00:42:00,932
but I - I know

1029
00:42:01,415 --> 00:42:05,730
that one of the things is
that is the intel-intelligence

1030
00:42:05,764 --> 00:42:06,765
of the films.

1031
00:42:06,972 --> 00:42:09,561
Because there's in every film
that he does

1032
00:42:09,596 --> 00:42:11,632
there's always this subplot

1033
00:42:12,391 --> 00:42:16,292
that isn't necessarily true
in other horror films.

1034
00:42:16,326 --> 00:42:19,364
I don't know that is
always the only thing,

1035
00:42:19,916 --> 00:42:21,884
but, for example,

1036
00:42:22,125 --> 00:42:24,231
um, in Dawn,

1037
00:42:24,472 --> 00:42:27,924
there's a line I'm paraphrasing:

1038
00:42:27,959 --> 00:42:30,962
"They go back to
where they're comfortable".

1039
00:42:31,307 --> 00:42:32,722
Which means the Mall.

1040
00:42:35,104 --> 00:42:39,729
So it's a
It's a so-social take,

1041
00:42:40,799 --> 00:42:41,489
yeah,

1042
00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:45,321
on - on - on com
consumerism. Yeah.

1043
00:42:46,322 --> 00:42:49,739
First film of George's I saw
was Martin at your convention,

1044
00:42:49,774 --> 00:42:52,328
and it changed my entire life.
Uh, that film,

1045
00:42:52,742 --> 00:42:54,917
uh, there it is the single most,

1046
00:42:54,951 --> 00:42:56,953
uh, important event in my life

1047
00:42:56,988 --> 00:42:59,784
in terms of movie watching.

1048
00:42:59,818 --> 00:43:02,269
It changed everything-
my asthetic, my taste.

1049
00:43:02,787 --> 00:43:04,754
I would say that I went into
that film as a kid,

1050
00:43:04,789 --> 00:43:06,031
and came out as a adult.

1051
00:43:06,066 --> 00:43:08,275
I was just a
completely different person.

1052
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:10,518
It was a more artsy film too.

1053
00:43:11,209 --> 00:43:12,762
But it was a
deconstructionist look.

1054
00:43:12,797 --> 00:43:14,937
It brought Vampires
into reality. Right.

1055
00:43:15,178 --> 00:43:17,491
George, uh, was a

1056
00:43:18,492 --> 00:43:19,838
truly a great
American filmmaker.

1057
00:43:19,873 --> 00:43:22,530
I actually think Martin is
a great American film.

1058
00:43:23,221 --> 00:43:25,603
I think if he wasn't working
in horror, I think...

1059
00:43:25,637 --> 00:43:27,294
I think There's Always Vanilla,

1060
00:43:27,328 --> 00:43:29,434
had it been made in Hollywood,

1061
00:43:29,468 --> 00:43:32,851
you know, with Mike Nichols
Dustin Hoffman and you know.

1062
00:43:32,886 --> 00:43:34,750
It-it's an Oscar nominee.

1063
00:43:34,784 --> 00:43:36,544
But you make it
in Pittsburgh with nobody

1064
00:43:37,442 --> 00:43:38,926
and it disappears.

1065
00:43:38,961 --> 00:43:41,515
But all of George's films
function on 2 levels.

1066
00:43:41,549 --> 00:43:42,861
They function as entertainment

1067
00:43:43,137 --> 00:43:45,415
and they func-function as
something deeper.

1068
00:43:45,450 --> 00:43:47,348
And deeper commentary
on society.

1069
00:43:47,555 --> 00:43:49,316
And it wasn't,
and he would tell you this,

1070
00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:51,801
it wasn't because he was
necessarily consciously

1071
00:43:51,836 --> 00:43:53,113
striving for that.

1072
00:43:53,803 --> 00:43:54,770
He was just a smart guy

1073
00:43:54,804 --> 00:43:56,875
who cared and who observed,

1074
00:43:56,910 --> 00:44:00,051
and he wove deep things
into his work.

1075
00:44:00,085 --> 00:44:01,949
And no matter how much

1076
00:44:02,847 --> 00:44:03,813
gratuitous

1077
00:44:04,814 --> 00:44:07,023
gore or violence he would
put into a film,

1078
00:44:07,058 --> 00:44:09,957
it never felt gratuitous
or cheap.

1079
00:44:10,889 --> 00:44:14,444
Yeah I don't - I don't think
George as much as anyone else

1080
00:44:14,479 --> 00:44:17,447
felt there would be such
a cult following

1081
00:44:17,482 --> 00:44:18,863
on any of the films.

1082
00:44:18,897 --> 00:44:21,417
You know, I think he was
just as surprised as anybody

1083
00:44:21,451 --> 00:44:24,247
to see that you know
10, 20 years later.

1084
00:44:24,282 --> 00:44:27,561
I mean there's generations
now that weren't born

1085
00:44:27,595 --> 00:44:29,114
when these movies were made

1086
00:44:29,149 --> 00:44:31,669
that, uh are, are big fans.

1087
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,328
How did, how did you get
caught up in - in this?

1088
00:44:36,535 --> 00:44:38,572
I'm not from
Pittsburgh so, uh,

1089
00:44:39,021 --> 00:44:41,195
[Larry] I would come up
as a horror convention vendor,

1090
00:44:41,437 --> 00:44:43,715
and that would be
my way to get to Pittsburgh.

1091
00:44:43,922 --> 00:44:46,200
I could make money and
it could pay for the trip.

1092
00:44:46,787 --> 00:44:48,686
So I would come here and
I would be prepared.

1093
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:49,652
I would want to

1094
00:44:49,687 --> 00:44:50,929
research locations from

1095
00:44:50,964 --> 00:44:51,930
George Romero's films.

1096
00:44:52,586 --> 00:44:54,588
And I had thought
over the years,

1097
00:44:54,622 --> 00:44:55,693
you know, that I would like

1098
00:44:55,727 --> 00:44:58,074
to go on a tour of, say,
The Monroeville Mall,

1099
00:44:58,109 --> 00:45:00,732
or filming locations
of George's films.

1100
00:45:01,008 --> 00:45:03,010
And I saw there was a tour on,

1101
00:45:03,045 --> 00:45:03,942
you know, on a box set

1102
00:45:03,977 --> 00:45:05,081
of Dawn of the Dead.

1103
00:45:05,116 --> 00:45:06,186
And all it's versions

1104
00:45:06,220 --> 00:45:07,221
are on the set.

1105
00:45:07,256 --> 00:45:08,567
And there was a tour on there,

1106
00:45:08,602 --> 00:45:09,361
and I'm like...

1107
00:45:09,396 --> 00:45:10,397
I wanna do that one day.

1108
00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:13,296
And then I decided
to research it.

1109
00:45:13,331 --> 00:45:16,058
And then I got
obsessive with my research.

1110
00:45:16,265 --> 00:45:17,887
Mike - That's a shock.
Larry - And eventually

1111
00:45:18,301 --> 00:45:19,578
[laughing]

1112
00:45:19,613 --> 00:45:22,167
I - I had so much information
at my fingertips that,

1113
00:45:22,478 --> 00:45:25,239
that I knew more than
most people out there.

1114
00:45:25,274 --> 00:45:28,001
And then in present day
I actually do host tours

1115
00:45:28,035 --> 00:45:30,589
of the Mall for fans from
all over the world, and

1116
00:45:30,624 --> 00:45:33,834
actually thats why my voice is
a little hoarse at the moment.

1117
00:45:34,214 --> 00:45:35,698
I have a bunch of points to make

1118
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:36,768
along the way that,

1119
00:45:36,803 --> 00:45:37,942
most of the points are

1120
00:45:37,976 --> 00:45:38,943
on the bottom.

1121
00:45:38,977 --> 00:45:39,944
Of the majority of the action

1122
00:45:39,978 --> 00:45:41,186
and such happen

1123
00:45:41,221 --> 00:45:42,394
on the bottom floor.

1124
00:45:42,429 --> 00:45:46,640
You remember after they sort of
go shopping and such,

1125
00:45:46,674 --> 00:45:48,987
and Roger is in his little cart.

1126
00:45:49,332 --> 00:45:52,301
Fran puts a box of plates
in the cart with him

1127
00:45:52,335 --> 00:45:53,578
and that would
have been over here.

1128
00:45:53,612 --> 00:45:54,717
I'll show you that in a second.

1129
00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:56,063
But she parks him right here.

1130
00:45:57,375 --> 00:46:00,240
I never thought
after nearly 40 years

1131
00:46:00,274 --> 00:46:02,414
that Day of the Dead was made,

1132
00:46:02,449 --> 00:46:05,763
that people would still be
talking about it

1133
00:46:05,797 --> 00:46:09,249
and would be writing me and
asking me for my autograph

1134
00:46:09,283 --> 00:46:14,288
just the same uh as many others
who played secondary extras

1135
00:46:14,323 --> 00:46:16,049
in these films, uh,

1136
00:46:16,359 --> 00:46:18,810
who are being pursued
the same thing as me

1137
00:46:18,845 --> 00:46:22,814
for autographs and
uh convention appearances

1138
00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:25,472
in celebration of
all things Romero.

1139
00:46:25,921 --> 00:46:29,234
Seems like the films shows
everybody's sense of struggle.

1140
00:46:29,269 --> 00:46:30,960
Every dynamic of it,

1141
00:46:30,995 --> 00:46:32,168
you know, personal, your peers,

1142
00:46:32,203 --> 00:46:33,238
and then it's also some type of

1143
00:46:33,273 --> 00:46:33,860
ambiant force that's giving you

1144
00:46:33,894 --> 00:46:35,275
some type of conflict, so.

1145
00:46:35,309 --> 00:46:36,483
That's how people deal
with in everyday life.

1146
00:46:36,966 --> 00:46:38,968
And that's what the
movies are about - real life.

1147
00:46:39,003 --> 00:46:39,624
As I grew older,

1148
00:46:39,658 --> 00:46:40,625
and I talked to people,

1149
00:46:40,659 --> 00:46:41,350
and I started watching

1150
00:46:41,384 --> 00:46:42,282
these movies more and more

1151
00:46:42,316 --> 00:46:43,110
over and over and over.

1152
00:46:43,145 --> 00:46:43,766
People like: "Dude, why do you

1153
00:46:43,801 --> 00:46:45,112
like these movies so much"?

1154
00:46:45,147 --> 00:46:47,459
I'm like, well you gotta like
the
special effects - I mean.

1155
00:46:47,494 --> 00:46:50,152
You see something in the
late 90's and the 2000's.

1156
00:46:50,186 --> 00:46:52,361
I'm like: "Hey - they got that
idea from Romero".

1157
00:46:52,982 --> 00:46:54,812
That's true, so Romero's got a
lot of influence

1158
00:46:54,846 --> 00:46:55,847
in a lot of today's films.

1159
00:46:55,882 --> 00:46:57,331
Definitely - definitely
definitely.

1160
00:46:57,366 --> 00:46:58,677
Could I say - Dawn of the Dead,

1161
00:46:58,712 --> 00:47:00,887
it was the fact that
you had these people

1162
00:47:01,370 --> 00:47:02,923
that were just
trying to survive.

1163
00:47:03,372 --> 00:47:05,961
Things were going bad, and

1164
00:47:05,995 --> 00:47:07,963
you had these 4 people group up,

1165
00:47:07,997 --> 00:47:10,482
and just keep hold
to what was left.

1166
00:47:11,242 --> 00:47:12,519
You take Night
of the Living Dead.

1167
00:47:12,553 --> 00:47:14,141
it's more documentary like.

1168
00:47:14,176 --> 00:47:16,454
Its real and gritty, and

1169
00:47:16,488 --> 00:47:18,180
and, you want to absorb that,

1170
00:47:18,214 --> 00:47:19,353
and you're into the world

1171
00:47:19,388 --> 00:47:20,216
with that first film.

1172
00:47:20,251 --> 00:47:20,699
And then you go to

1173
00:47:20,734 --> 00:47:21,839
Dawn of the Dead.

1174
00:47:21,873 --> 00:47:24,565
And it's an adventure.
It's fun - It's rollicking.

1175
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,877
It's a rollercoaster.

1176
00:47:25,912 --> 00:47:29,018
And you get into that and you
enjoy the characters and such.

1177
00:47:29,053 --> 00:47:30,330
And then you get to
Day of the Dead,

1178
00:47:30,364 --> 00:47:31,434
and that's where I think

1179
00:47:31,469 --> 00:47:32,677
things really change.

1180
00:47:32,711 --> 00:47:34,437
[Larry] It's gritty it's people
being mean to each other.

1181
00:47:34,472 --> 00:47:35,542
Yeah.

1182
00:47:35,576 --> 00:47:37,061
[Larry] I think that's how
it would really go down.

1183
00:47:37,095 --> 00:47:37,958
Yeah.

1184
00:47:37,993 --> 00:47:39,891
That's the most
realistic one to me.

1185
00:47:39,926 --> 00:47:42,273
Yeah, and and it
talked a lot about

1186
00:47:42,307 --> 00:47:44,137
the character
of different people.

1187
00:47:44,482 --> 00:47:47,588
Uh, and what was important
in their lives because

1188
00:47:47,623 --> 00:47:49,038
when something
like that happens.

1189
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:51,730
WHEN SOMETHING
LIKE THAT HAPPENS.

1190
00:47:51,765 --> 00:47:53,042
Uh, you know,

1191
00:47:53,284 --> 00:47:55,182
you don't know
how you're gonna react.

1192
00:47:56,114 --> 00:47:58,254
And - and some people react

1193
00:47:58,289 --> 00:48:00,636
one way
like the military people.

1194
00:48:00,670 --> 00:48:03,432
And then you got the
scientists trying to figure out

1195
00:48:03,466 --> 00:48:05,434
maybe how to save humanity

1196
00:48:05,641 --> 00:48:06,642
as opposed to...

1197
00:48:06,953 --> 00:48:09,265
Uh, hey I don't care what
happens to them.

1198
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:11,440
I'm saving myself.
That kind of thing.

1199
00:48:11,681 --> 00:48:14,650
There's a lot of social
commentary as in that.

1200
00:48:14,684 --> 00:48:17,101
As there is in all the
Romero Zombie films.

1201
00:48:17,135 --> 00:48:18,067
Yeah, or or even Knightriders.

1202
00:48:19,966 --> 00:48:23,279
What character do you love the
most and and feel connected to,

1203
00:48:23,624 --> 00:48:24,453
and why?

1204
00:48:24,487 --> 00:48:25,626
Well, you know what?

1205
00:48:25,937 --> 00:48:27,594
It stems from
different movie to movie.

1206
00:48:27,628 --> 00:48:28,629
Because, you know,

1207
00:48:29,009 --> 00:48:30,942
regardless of the fact
that everybody's having

1208
00:48:30,977 --> 00:48:31,943
their inner torment
and struggles

1209
00:48:31,978 --> 00:48:33,565
of what's going on
in the outer world,

1210
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,532
you know, you had, uh,

1211
00:48:34,566 --> 00:48:35,222
Sarah who was

1212
00:48:35,257 --> 00:48:36,292
played by Lori Cardille.

1213
00:48:36,603 --> 00:48:38,294
You had uh, you know, Ken Foree

1214
00:48:38,674 --> 00:48:39,571
who played Peter.

1215
00:48:39,606 --> 00:48:41,435
It's like everybody really wants

1216
00:48:41,470 --> 00:48:43,679
to try to do the best for the
best with the worst scenario.

1217
00:48:44,197 --> 00:48:46,371
But, you know, you got to
make the best choice you can.

1218
00:48:46,406 --> 00:48:48,270
So it's pretty much feel I
connected with all of them.

1219
00:48:48,304 --> 00:48:49,133
I can't just pick one.

1220
00:48:49,478 --> 00:48:50,617
In watching these films,

1221
00:48:50,651 --> 00:48:53,482
is there a particular character
or one that you like

1222
00:48:53,516 --> 00:48:54,414
or kinda glom onto?

1223
00:48:54,448 --> 00:48:56,657
Um, definitely I mean,

1224
00:48:57,175 --> 00:48:58,142
Ken Foree,

1225
00:49:02,318 --> 00:49:03,078
um.

1226
00:49:03,802 --> 00:49:04,803
Number one,

1227
00:49:05,804 --> 00:49:08,531
when we were a
lot younger in the 70's,

1228
00:49:08,566 --> 00:49:10,533
there wasn't a lot of
black action stars

1229
00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:13,226
that white kids in the
suburbs saw, right?

1230
00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:16,091
Because it was all inner city
black explotation movies.

1231
00:49:16,125 --> 00:49:17,540
We never got any of that.

1232
00:49:17,851 --> 00:49:19,128
So when I saw Dawn,

1233
00:49:19,887 --> 00:49:22,890
I was like Holy Mackerel.
That guy is amazing.

1234
00:49:23,546 --> 00:49:25,479
He had, I mean,
from the opening scene

1235
00:49:25,514 --> 00:49:26,894
to the end of that movie,

1236
00:49:27,171 --> 00:49:27,861
he's on it!

1237
00:49:28,241 --> 00:49:30,001
He's the tough guy,

1238
00:49:30,243 --> 00:49:31,244
and he's:
"Hey how ya doing"?

1239
00:49:31,278 --> 00:49:32,935
He he's got every
everything going on,

1240
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:33,971
charasmatic,

1241
00:49:34,005 --> 00:49:36,076
and to me that was just an
amazing amazing role

1242
00:49:36,111 --> 00:49:37,319
in that movie.

1243
00:49:37,353 --> 00:49:39,804
And there's certain zombies
I like and Bub and, you know,

1244
00:49:39,838 --> 00:49:41,530
there's always ones you
gravitate towards.

1245
00:49:41,564 --> 00:49:43,497
But I think if you
refined it all down,

1246
00:49:44,050 --> 00:49:45,051
you know,

1247
00:49:45,361 --> 00:49:46,776
and said
I wanna be one of these.

1248
00:49:46,811 --> 00:49:48,502
That's the guy
I wanna be - yeah.

1249
00:49:48,882 --> 00:49:50,608
Have you - have you seen him
met the other zombies?

1250
00:49:50,642 --> 00:49:51,471
I met him today.

1251
00:49:51,505 --> 00:49:52,299
You met him today?

1252
00:49:52,334 --> 00:49:53,576
Absolutely wonderful man.

1253
00:49:53,611 --> 00:49:56,441
And I've been able to meet
all the other, uh people

1254
00:49:56,476 --> 00:49:58,478
involved this weekend,
and it's it's been great.

1255
00:49:58,512 --> 00:49:59,893
Now have you ever had
the opportunity to meet

1256
00:49:59,927 --> 00:50:00,618
George Romero?

1257
00:50:00,652 --> 00:50:01,343
I have not.

1258
00:50:01,377 --> 00:50:01,826
Okay,

1259
00:50:01,860 --> 00:50:02,482
I have not.

1260
00:50:02,516 --> 00:50:04,691
Um, I wish I had.

1261
00:50:04,725 --> 00:50:06,003
You know they say:
"Don't meet your heros".

1262
00:50:06,037 --> 00:50:08,143
And what I do for a living,
painting celebrities and stuff.

1263
00:50:08,591 --> 00:50:09,972
That's all BS - meet em.

1264
00:50:10,007 --> 00:50:11,146
Because they're
gonna be gone tomorrow

1265
00:50:11,180 --> 00:50:12,423
and you're never
gonna have the chance to,

1266
00:50:12,457 --> 00:50:13,596
number 1, say "Thank You",

1267
00:50:13,907 --> 00:50:16,047
and number 2, just tell
them your story, you know?

1268
00:50:16,254 --> 00:50:18,084
So I never met him, um.

1269
00:50:18,981 --> 00:50:21,604
But yeah I mean I just have
a huge admiration for his work.

1270
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,261
And more than just the work is

1271
00:50:23,675 --> 00:50:25,574
is this community this whole.

1272
00:50:25,815 --> 00:50:27,610
He's the godfather of
this whole franchise.

1273
00:50:27,645 --> 00:50:30,682
This, this whole genre
of movies and, uh,

1274
00:50:31,269 --> 00:50:32,891
wow that's awesome, you know.

1275
00:50:32,926 --> 00:50:35,204
That's a hell of a body of
work and a hell of a life.

1276
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,794
That and that's you know talkin
about him from that level, does

1277
00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:42,694
does he influence, you know,
your work your art?

1278
00:50:42,729 --> 00:50:45,801
My painting? Absolutely.
So like just this year

1279
00:50:46,215 --> 00:50:48,838
I think I'm on
five Romero paintings.

1280
00:50:48,873 --> 00:50:50,254
You know, first one I did was

1281
00:50:50,288 --> 00:50:52,739
Fly Boy because I went over
to the museum and saw,

1282
00:50:52,773 --> 00:50:54,637
and I was in it in the elevator.

1283
00:50:54,672 --> 00:50:55,949
I'm like, I gotta do
a painting of this.

1284
00:50:56,812 --> 00:50:59,953
Next one I did, uh, was from
Night of the Living Dead.

1285
00:51:00,195 --> 00:51:01,368
And then I jumped over to Bub

1286
00:51:01,403 --> 00:51:04,026
because I watched that one
30 times, you know, in a row.

1287
00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:06,132
And, uh, yesterday,
before I came here,

1288
00:51:06,166 --> 00:51:07,788
I actually did a big
Night of the Living Dead

1289
00:51:07,823 --> 00:51:08,858
the Living Dead girl.

1290
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:11,240
And then recently just did a
George Romero portrait too,

1291
00:51:11,275 --> 00:51:12,966
that a lot of people here
seem to like.

1292
00:51:14,347 --> 00:51:19,766
♪ acoustic guitar ♪

1293
00:51:22,631 --> 00:51:26,083
We have uh we have quite a long
history together with.

1294
00:51:26,117 --> 00:51:28,154
I worked I ended up
working with him.

1295
00:51:29,362 --> 00:51:31,295
Bob - Yeah.
Jeanie - In his office.

1296
00:51:31,502 --> 00:51:34,919
Uh yeah, I mean later,
and his would have been

1297
00:51:34,953 --> 00:51:37,335
now in the early 90's
I guess it was.

1298
00:51:37,784 --> 00:51:42,202
Uh, we had another company
and, uh, we were producing, uh

1299
00:51:42,651 --> 00:51:44,929
magazines and books
and trading cards.

1300
00:51:44,963 --> 00:51:46,862
And Jeanie started
to work with us.

1301
00:51:47,207 --> 00:51:52,868
Uh, and uh, a Fantasy Girl set
of trading cards too so, uh.

1302
00:51:53,213 --> 00:51:56,285
This would have been right
after the Zombie Jamboree

1303
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,322
I think that we had
put on in 1993.

1304
00:51:58,356 --> 00:52:00,255
Which was in
Monroeville at that time.

1305
00:52:00,289 --> 00:52:01,497
[Both] Yeah.

1306
00:52:01,808 --> 00:52:03,327
Uh, the Zombie Jamboree had

1307
00:52:03,361 --> 00:52:05,950
had, it was the first time
all of the, uh,

1308
00:52:06,468 --> 00:52:09,367
the Night of the Living Dead
cast was brought back together.

1309
00:52:09,402 --> 00:52:12,612
And we also had other
different guests too, like

1310
00:52:12,646 --> 00:52:15,235
we had some Scream Queens,
Brinke Stevens,

1311
00:52:15,546 --> 00:52:18,445
Linnea Quigley,
we had Kane Hodder.

1312
00:52:18,997 --> 00:52:21,552
Uh, we had Adam West.
We had Jeanie.

1313
00:52:21,862 --> 00:52:27,109
Uh, but but we had just produced
a a set of trading cards called

1314
00:52:27,144 --> 00:52:28,283
Fantasy Girls.

1315
00:52:28,317 --> 00:52:30,526
And Jeanie was actually one
of the Fantasy Girls.

1316
00:52:30,561 --> 00:52:32,908
But she was also like the
Fantasy Girl wrangler.

1317
00:52:33,391 --> 00:52:34,668
So we go to...

1318
00:52:34,703 --> 00:52:38,258
And we did a lot of photography
together over the years, uh.

1319
00:52:38,293 --> 00:52:40,743
[Jeanie] This one is an
amazing photographer.

1320
00:52:40,778 --> 00:52:43,746
He's taken some
beautiful photos of me.

1321
00:52:43,781 --> 00:52:47,509
We've we've had a lot of fun
and uh I'd say,

1322
00:52:47,992 --> 00:52:52,030
if we go back earlier,
around 1980,

1323
00:52:52,065 --> 00:52:53,860
79 or 80 I believe,

1324
00:52:54,101 --> 00:52:57,450
I was publishing
a magazine called Questar.

1325
00:52:57,726 --> 00:53:00,211
It was a science fiction
fantasy magazine.

1326
00:53:00,625 --> 00:53:03,973
That's where we
had met uh Forey Ackerman

1327
00:53:04,008 --> 00:53:06,183
of Famous Monsters of Filmland.

1328
00:53:06,493 --> 00:53:10,221
He was the editor
of that magazine, and

1329
00:53:10,739 --> 00:53:15,226
I I held a convention
in Monroeville in 1978,

1330
00:53:15,537 --> 00:53:17,608
and he was one of
the guests. And he

1331
00:53:18,264 --> 00:53:19,679
met Jeanie at that time.

1332
00:53:19,713 --> 00:53:21,405
And I'll let you take
over from there.

1333
00:53:21,439 --> 00:53:22,544
Well he kind of discovered me.
Bob - He did

1334
00:53:22,578 --> 00:53:24,615
He's like:
"I'm gonna discover you".

1335
00:53:25,961 --> 00:53:29,861
[Mike OC] Whats it like
when fans come up to you

1336
00:53:30,483 --> 00:53:32,416
and and ask for your autograph?

1337
00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:36,351
That that's gotta feel
really strange in a way.

1338
00:53:36,385 --> 00:53:37,938
It does, because...

1339
00:53:38,145 --> 00:53:42,046
I think it's unbelievable to me
that people know who I am.

1340
00:53:43,185 --> 00:53:48,225
Uh, and that they're so
appreciative, and and.

1341
00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:52,229
I love talking to people.
I love finding out about them.

1342
00:53:52,574 --> 00:53:56,612
But they, um,
I went to a, uh,

1343
00:53:56,854 --> 00:54:01,134
show in in Pittsburgh
Monroeville area.

1344
00:54:01,721 --> 00:54:03,447
Uh, that was, uh,

1345
00:54:04,137 --> 00:54:05,380
a convention.

1346
00:54:06,415 --> 00:54:08,900
And John Amplas was there,
and that was his,

1347
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,801
uh, who's, he was in,
has been in six of, uh,

1348
00:54:13,802 --> 00:54:16,356
of George's, of
George Romero's films.

1349
00:54:17,012 --> 00:54:19,773
And he said:
"Mark you've got to do this".

1350
00:54:20,118 --> 00:54:22,811
No, come on.
Nobody knows who I am.

1351
00:54:23,674 --> 00:54:26,711
And also,
Greg Nicotero was there,

1352
00:54:26,746 --> 00:54:32,993
who was on Day of the Dead.
He was a, uh, he was an intern.

1353
00:54:34,512 --> 00:54:36,859
And, but, he had become

1354
00:54:37,619 --> 00:54:40,587
an important person in
the Hollywood scene

1355
00:54:40,622 --> 00:54:41,795
for special effects.

1356
00:54:42,175 --> 00:54:45,799
And he also said: "Mark
you've got to do this".

1357
00:54:45,834 --> 00:54:47,214
And he had a book with,

1358
00:54:47,732 --> 00:54:51,046
that had my pictures in it
when he was doing my makeup.

1359
00:54:52,254 --> 00:54:55,533
And I, yeah okay, sure
people might, and then,

1360
00:54:56,465 --> 00:54:59,123
I was walking
around the the show.

1361
00:54:59,157 --> 00:55:01,677
People were coming up to me
and asking for my autograph.

1362
00:55:01,712 --> 00:55:04,818
And I thought , maybe
there is something to this.

1363
00:55:04,853 --> 00:55:07,718
[Mike] It's interesting how
only up until recently,

1364
00:55:08,650 --> 00:55:11,377
this whole thing now has
become part of your identity.

1365
00:55:11,687 --> 00:55:13,482
It's almost like who you are.

1366
00:55:13,689 --> 00:55:19,419
It is. It is part of especially
when I do these conventions.

1367
00:55:19,868 --> 00:55:21,421
You know, I become that person.

1368
00:55:21,939 --> 00:55:24,493
[Mike OC] But then when you go
back to your regular life.

1369
00:55:24,838 --> 00:55:26,875
[Mike OC] Don't you
feel like, not so

1370
00:55:26,909 --> 00:55:28,911
kind of, feel more ordinary?

1371
00:55:29,291 --> 00:55:32,639
because in the Romero Universe
you feel really special.

1372
00:55:32,674 --> 00:55:34,745
Yes, and that's absolutely true.

1373
00:55:34,952 --> 00:55:37,161
And I'm, you know, I still
have to take out the garbage

1374
00:55:37,195 --> 00:55:39,094
which I really object to.

1375
00:55:39,508 --> 00:55:40,751
[Mike OC] I thought you
just eat the garbage.

1376
00:55:40,785 --> 00:55:42,235
Well, that's true.

1377
00:55:42,891 --> 00:55:45,997
You become personal friends
with some of the celebrities

1378
00:55:46,032 --> 00:55:48,586
because they're in the area,
or you see them so much

1379
00:55:48,621 --> 00:55:49,863
at the different Cons, that

1380
00:55:50,208 --> 00:55:52,210
you have a connection with them,

1381
00:55:52,245 --> 00:55:53,729
and that makes it special too,

1382
00:55:53,764 --> 00:55:55,869
and makes you enjoy
the show even more.

1383
00:55:55,904 --> 00:55:58,596
I think it is a
very special place.

1384
00:55:58,631 --> 00:56:00,357
And and a lot
like she was saying,

1385
00:56:00,391 --> 00:56:02,876
a lot of the celebrities
are now friends.

1386
00:56:03,325 --> 00:56:06,915
It's just such a tight community
but everybody's welcome.

1387
00:56:06,949 --> 00:56:10,884
It's like something beyond, um
what you can get anywhere else.

1388
00:56:10,919 --> 00:56:14,405
There's - everybody's here
and they're upbeat they're happy

1389
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,201
to be meeting, you know,
who they've watched.

1390
00:56:17,235 --> 00:56:20,446
Yeah, it's it's fun it's like
it takes all the pressures

1391
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,309
of the world away when
you're in here!

1392
00:56:22,344 --> 00:56:25,865
You know it's it's one of
the most fantastic shows

1393
00:56:25,899 --> 00:56:28,523
I've ever attended, so remember
The Living Dead Weekend.

1394
00:56:29,593 --> 00:56:31,111
And me it's like, you know,

1395
00:56:31,146 --> 00:56:32,250
I love the people here.

1396
00:56:32,285 --> 00:56:33,804
They're like my family.

1397
00:56:34,632 --> 00:56:35,806
So it's like, when I come here

1398
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,912
I get to see not just
my extended family,

1399
00:56:38,947 --> 00:56:40,811
I get to see my my real family

1400
00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:43,434
and actually my brother
from across the sea.

1401
00:56:43,469 --> 00:56:45,816
He's my brother in arms, man.
It's like, you know,

1402
00:56:45,850 --> 00:56:47,438
like this is the best.

1403
00:56:48,128 --> 00:56:50,545
These people make you feel
loved and welcomed.

1404
00:56:52,029 --> 00:56:55,101
Now when when you come to these
these events these conventions,

1405
00:56:55,135 --> 00:56:58,587
do you feel uh like a familiar
connection, like a family?

1406
00:56:58,622 --> 00:57:00,451
Does it feel like
a big family for you?

1407
00:57:00,486 --> 00:57:02,177
Oh absolutely, yeah, em.

1408
00:57:02,211 --> 00:57:05,180
When we first came, em,
there was kind of

1409
00:57:05,939 --> 00:57:08,563
like a like a strange aura
almost like you

1410
00:57:08,597 --> 00:57:10,944
stepped into the Mall, it felt
like it was supposed to be.

1411
00:57:11,635 --> 00:57:14,845
And, uh, yeah since then
I've met a lot of great people.

1412
00:57:15,293 --> 00:57:17,364
And, you know, they seem to,

1413
00:57:18,573 --> 00:57:19,884
we're in the middle
of nowhere really,

1414
00:57:19,919 --> 00:57:25,131
but we've gravitated to this
this hub of activity.

1415
00:57:25,165 --> 00:57:27,823
So George Romero and his films,
they seem like a really

1416
00:57:27,858 --> 00:57:29,446
big part of your life, and,
Scott: Oh yeah.

1417
00:57:29,687 --> 00:57:31,344
you seem to have a
really strong connection, like

1418
00:57:31,655 --> 00:57:33,380
when you watch his films,

1419
00:57:33,415 --> 00:57:36,004
are there any particular
characters that you connect to?

1420
00:57:36,038 --> 00:57:38,006
Or ones that you pull for or?

1421
00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:41,837
Well, uh, Stephen Flyboy
from Dawn of the Dead.

1422
00:57:41,872 --> 00:57:48,257
Uh, because I do cosplay stuff
as Stephen & Flyboy & Zombie.

1423
00:57:48,672 --> 00:57:49,949
Um, yeah.

1424
00:57:49,983 --> 00:57:51,985
So cosplay, where,
where do you do that?

1425
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:53,021
How does that work?

1426
00:57:53,366 --> 00:57:55,886
Oh, it started in 2015.

1427
00:57:56,162 --> 00:57:57,163
And I thought,

1428
00:57:57,577 --> 00:57:59,855
I wanted to do the
Flyboy character before,

1429
00:57:59,890 --> 00:58:01,995
and I've never done
anything like that really.

1430
00:58:02,651 --> 00:58:04,066
And there was a
convention in the UK,

1431
00:58:04,101 --> 00:58:06,413
and I thought, I'll do it.
I'll try it out.

1432
00:58:07,380 --> 00:58:09,071
So I went to the convention,

1433
00:58:10,176 --> 00:58:11,936
driving there with makeup on,

1434
00:58:12,178 --> 00:58:13,904
blood everywhere, and I thought

1435
00:58:13,938 --> 00:58:15,664
This is ridiculous.
Why am I doing this?

1436
00:58:16,182 --> 00:58:17,183
Got there.

1437
00:58:17,666 --> 00:58:18,909
Got to the parking lot.

1438
00:58:19,323 --> 00:58:21,049
Ah, I feel stupid.

1439
00:58:21,083 --> 00:58:21,946
Got out of the car,

1440
00:58:21,981 --> 00:58:22,982
and soon as I
got out of the car,

1441
00:58:23,016 --> 00:58:24,155
there was a lady there,
and she went:

1442
00:58:24,190 --> 00:58:26,157
"Wow that's amazing.
Can I get a photo?"

1443
00:58:29,713 --> 00:58:32,992
And then since it's just,
yeah, gone on and on and on.

1444
00:58:35,063 --> 00:58:36,547
One of the reasons
you're sitting here

1445
00:58:36,582 --> 00:58:40,447
is because you are an
avid Romero historian.

1446
00:58:40,758 --> 00:58:42,035
More than anybody I know.

1447
00:58:42,415 --> 00:58:43,623
Interestingly enough,

1448
00:58:44,037 --> 00:58:45,556
we didn't know each other
a year ago.

1449
00:58:46,695 --> 00:58:49,077
Uh, this all started with me,

1450
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,528
uh, when my wife, Brenda,

1451
00:58:51,907 --> 00:58:53,978
She said: "Well you promised
you were gonna go

1452
00:58:54,427 --> 00:58:57,430
up in the attic and clean out
some of the stuff", you know.

1453
00:58:57,637 --> 00:59:00,364
Um, I do like to collect things.

1454
00:59:00,744 --> 00:59:02,539
So I had boxes
of different things

1455
00:59:02,573 --> 00:59:04,782
and I opened up the
one box, and I found

1456
00:59:05,576 --> 00:59:09,787
a scrapbook that I kept from
when I was in Day of the Dead.

1457
00:59:10,029 --> 00:59:12,100
and then I opened it up.
I looked at all the pictures

1458
00:59:12,134 --> 00:59:15,966
that I took, because
back in the day, Savini

1459
00:59:16,276 --> 00:59:19,003
uh, and I ended up
becoming pretty good friends.

1460
00:59:19,452 --> 00:59:21,730
And he said:
"Hey I'm I'm doing this film

1461
00:59:22,110 --> 00:59:24,457
uh, come on set,
bring your camera,

1462
00:59:24,906 --> 00:59:27,287
whatever photos
you take give me dupes,

1463
00:59:27,322 --> 00:59:28,737
you know, and just hang out,

1464
00:59:28,772 --> 00:59:29,531
oh, and I'll make you

1465
00:59:29,566 --> 00:59:31,050
into a zombie and you can

1466
00:59:31,291 --> 00:59:32,430
be in it". And I thought...

1467
00:59:32,465 --> 00:59:34,225
cool. So that's pretty good.

1468
00:59:34,260 --> 00:59:36,642
So, uh I got that scrapbook

1469
00:59:36,883 --> 00:59:38,436
and thought, oh I'll
take pictures of it

1470
00:59:38,471 --> 00:59:40,404
and I'll
I'll put it on Facebook.

1471
00:59:40,818 --> 00:59:42,786
And then you and
a couple other people

1472
00:59:43,165 --> 00:59:46,272
immediately messaged me,

1473
00:59:46,306 --> 00:59:47,411
Larry: I'm always looking
for those things.

1474
00:59:47,445 --> 00:59:49,275
Mike: and said this is awesome!
This is great stuff!

1475
00:59:49,482 --> 00:59:51,760
Because everybody threw
everything away back then.

1476
00:59:52,243 --> 00:59:54,073
One of the pictures I had,

1477
00:59:54,107 --> 00:59:57,145
which I just introduced a
couple days ago at a convention,

1478
00:59:57,490 --> 01:00:02,599
uh, was, uh, a a photo of the
kitchen wall,

1479
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,842
which had like a storyboard

1480
01:00:05,084 --> 01:00:06,395
all the different scenes

1481
01:00:06,430 --> 01:00:07,673
all outlined.

1482
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,985
Uh and I actually found my scene

1483
01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:12,160
which was 97A.

1484
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:14,300
Torrez gets his head ripped off.
Larry: Right.

1485
01:00:14,645 --> 01:00:16,889
So, you know,
I was in that scene.

1486
01:00:17,130 --> 01:00:20,099
Uh, but I remember that
at the end of the production,

1487
01:00:20,478 --> 01:00:22,308
I - I walked in and

1488
01:00:22,342 --> 01:00:23,758
everything was off of that wall.

1489
01:00:23,792 --> 01:00:26,139
They just tore it all off
and threw it in the garbage.

1490
01:00:26,174 --> 01:00:29,142
And no ones thinking
anything of that.

1491
01:00:29,556 --> 01:00:31,282
Myself, though I - I

1492
01:00:31,524 --> 01:00:33,457
I decided, well I'm gonna keep

1493
01:00:34,251 --> 01:00:36,460
the, uh, contract that I signed

1494
01:00:36,494 --> 01:00:38,117
you know, for a dollar.
Larry: Sure.

1495
01:00:38,151 --> 01:00:41,189
And then, you know, at
the end of the day, uh,

1496
01:00:41,223 --> 01:00:43,191
my call sheet was up there.

1497
01:00:43,467 --> 01:00:45,089
I take my call sheet
off the wall,

1498
01:00:45,124 --> 01:00:46,781
and no one seemed
to care about that.

1499
01:00:46,815 --> 01:00:48,368
So I put that in my scrapbook.

1500
01:00:48,679 --> 01:00:50,992
And I actually had the
original dollar bill

1501
01:00:51,268 --> 01:00:52,890
Larry: That's incredible.
Mike: that they had paid me.

1502
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:54,892
And I put that
in the scrapbook, too.

1503
01:00:55,168 --> 01:00:57,170
And then once I got all
the photos developed

1504
01:00:57,205 --> 01:00:58,378
and I gave Tom his,

1505
01:00:58,413 --> 01:01:00,311
I kinda put them
in the scrapbook.

1506
01:01:00,726 --> 01:01:02,382
But then when
I took a picture of that,

1507
01:01:02,728 --> 01:01:04,384
which is how I
ended up meeting you,

1508
01:01:04,591 --> 01:01:07,042
uh that's
that's when I found out

1509
01:01:07,249 --> 01:01:11,219
how much interest there still
was in in in the memorabilia

1510
01:01:11,253 --> 01:01:11,875
from that time.
Larry: Sure,

1511
01:01:11,909 --> 01:01:13,808
props, paperwork, anything.

1512
01:01:13,842 --> 01:01:16,673
Mike: Anything, and I kinda
thought more about,

1513
01:01:17,294 --> 01:01:19,158
you know, what it meant to me,

1514
01:01:19,365 --> 01:01:22,092
and and and my role in that.

1515
01:01:22,748 --> 01:01:24,404
And up until that time,

1516
01:01:24,888 --> 01:01:28,029
uh, it was just like something I
did that I thought was fun.

1517
01:01:28,443 --> 01:01:31,273
And then I get invited to
my first convention,

1518
01:01:31,308 --> 01:01:32,896
and basically thanks to you,

1519
01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:35,381
because you spotted that,
you know, and...

1520
01:01:35,692 --> 01:01:37,245
I find a lot of zombies.

1521
01:01:37,279 --> 01:01:39,281
People who had no idea about the
fans... Mike: Absolutely

1522
01:01:39,316 --> 01:01:42,353
in the world of these
horror conventions out there.

1523
01:01:42,388 --> 01:01:44,079
So I go to my first convention,

1524
01:01:45,046 --> 01:01:47,738
and and the reason I'm
even sitting here right now

1525
01:01:48,635 --> 01:01:49,878
making this movie

1526
01:01:50,258 --> 01:01:53,054
is I was absolutely blown away

1527
01:01:53,364 --> 01:01:55,263
by all the fans that

1528
01:01:55,746 --> 01:01:59,267
that even had any
interest in me as a person.

1529
01:01:59,612 --> 01:02:01,407
I - I've had a really
interesting life,

1530
01:02:01,441 --> 01:02:02,891
and I did a bunch of things.

1531
01:02:02,926 --> 01:02:04,306
I did a lot of car racing.

1532
01:02:04,341 --> 01:02:07,413
I won all these trophies
and everything, but...

1533
01:02:07,447 --> 01:02:09,208
They wanna know about
the George Romero flick.

1534
01:02:09,242 --> 01:02:13,039
Right, they wanna know about
my 5 seconds on screen

1535
01:02:13,074 --> 01:02:16,215
when I helped you know
rip Torrez's head off,

1536
01:02:16,422 --> 01:02:17,975
you know, in that scene.

1537
01:02:18,804 --> 01:02:20,081
And - and it got me thinking

1538
01:02:20,426 --> 01:02:22,704
about that whole subject matter.

1539
01:02:23,153 --> 01:02:24,810
What is it about

1540
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,433
the Romero films that
resonate so much,

1541
01:02:28,089 --> 01:02:29,504
not only with the fans,

1542
01:02:30,022 --> 01:02:33,611
but with you and I and
everybody that was in the film?

1543
01:02:33,646 --> 01:02:37,650
There's a great interaction now
uh, between the fans and the

1544
01:02:37,684 --> 01:02:39,583
different people that are
in the movie.

1545
01:02:39,825 --> 01:02:42,310
And you have to understand
that people like . . .

1546
01:02:42,655 --> 01:02:44,968
I'm - I'm not a movie star.

1547
01:02:45,244 --> 01:02:47,246
I, you know, I
I was a publisher...

1548
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,386
a book publisher and
a magazine publisher.

1549
01:02:49,627 --> 01:02:52,803
You know, I just got
lucky to be in a film

1550
01:02:53,148 --> 01:02:55,323
that George was doing
because I knew him.

1551
01:02:55,530 --> 01:02:57,635
And, and never thought
that 45 years later,

1552
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:59,603
that people would be
talking about it,

1553
01:02:59,879 --> 01:03:01,778
or people that want my autograph

1554
01:03:02,433 --> 01:03:03,538
not for my publishing,

1555
01:03:03,572 --> 01:03:06,679
but for the 3 seconds
that I'd been on screen,

1556
01:03:06,713 --> 01:03:09,647
you know with the head blast.
Uh, but - but,

1557
01:03:09,993 --> 01:03:12,512
and then a lot of other
people just like me,

1558
01:03:12,547 --> 01:03:15,032
that were just secondary
zombies in the movie,

1559
01:03:15,446 --> 01:03:17,448
you know, are now sought out

1560
01:03:17,483 --> 01:03:19,105
you know, just to meet.

1561
01:03:19,347 --> 01:03:20,866
And I, uh, I very...

1562
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:24,283
I mean we really enjoy that fact
that people, you know,

1563
01:03:25,836 --> 01:03:28,494
enjoyed what we did,
uh, as small as it was.

1564
01:03:28,977 --> 01:03:31,980
We wouldn't be here without,
#1 George Romero, of course.

1565
01:03:32,567 --> 01:03:35,190
But the fans, I mean if, if

1566
01:03:35,225 --> 01:03:37,710
the fans weren't a part of

1567
01:03:38,193 --> 01:03:39,677
the loving of George Romero,

1568
01:03:41,162 --> 01:03:42,542
you know, Thomas and me,

1569
01:03:42,577 --> 01:03:43,336
and everbody else,

1570
01:03:43,371 --> 01:03:44,751
we wouldn't even be here.

1571
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,651
So thank-thank God for the fans.

1572
01:03:48,755 --> 01:03:51,482
Are there a lot of conventions
in the UK for,like cosplay,

1573
01:03:51,517 --> 01:03:53,968
or even Romero conventions
in the UK?

1574
01:03:54,002 --> 01:03:56,004
There was comicons really,

1575
01:03:56,039 --> 01:04:00,215
but then there wasn't horror
conventions, per se, until

1576
01:04:01,182 --> 01:04:03,149
a little bit later on, so

1577
01:04:03,184 --> 01:04:06,290
we then started a
George Romero themed

1578
01:04:06,635 --> 01:04:08,189
convention called
Weekend of the Dead

1579
01:04:08,223 --> 01:04:08,914
[Brian OC] Okay.

1580
01:04:08,948 --> 01:04:12,124
em, around 2015, and since then

1581
01:04:12,434 --> 01:04:16,024
we had
George Romero guests over.

1582
01:04:16,369 --> 01:04:19,786
And, uh, yeah we had a
mini convention in the UK.

1583
01:04:19,821 --> 01:04:21,927
Obviously we can't come
to the Mall, but we try

1584
01:04:21,961 --> 01:04:25,723
and make it as
as good as possible.

1585
01:04:25,758 --> 01:04:28,071
I still find it strange now
thinking, cosplay,

1586
01:04:28,105 --> 01:04:30,832
cause I always thought the word
cosplay was like a nerdy thing.

1587
01:04:30,867 --> 01:04:32,144
NERDS!

1588
01:04:32,489 --> 01:04:35,595
But, em, now everyones been
so amazing about it.

1589
01:04:35,906 --> 01:04:37,045
Well, you go to
these conventions and

1590
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,771
you're not the
only one dressed up.

1591
01:04:38,805 --> 01:04:40,186
[Both] No.

1592
01:04:40,221 --> 01:04:41,636
In fact I'm probably in the
minority not being dressed up.

1593
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:41,981
Yeah.

1594
01:04:42,016 --> 01:04:42,292
when I go.

1595
01:04:42,326 --> 01:04:42,879
Yeah.

1596
01:04:42,913 --> 01:04:43,569
Hey, wait a second.

1597
01:04:43,603 --> 01:04:44,639
You bump into people.

1598
01:04:44,673 --> 01:04:46,572
Like there was a lady yesterday
who was like,

1599
01:04:46,606 --> 01:04:47,780
eh, FlyGirl,

1600
01:04:47,814 --> 01:04:50,024
who was walking around
with all the makeup on

1601
01:04:50,058 --> 01:04:51,888
and everything,
and it was like, You!

1602
01:04:51,922 --> 01:04:53,786
So do you have a big collection
of stuff at home?

1603
01:04:54,028 --> 01:04:56,202
Yeah, I've got a storage unit
full of stuff - and...

1604
01:04:56,754 --> 01:04:57,514
A storage unit?

1605
01:04:57,548 --> 01:04:58,066
Yeah.

1606
01:04:58,101 --> 01:04:59,550
Of Romero stuff?

1607
01:04:59,585 --> 01:05:01,035
A lot of Romero.
A lot of horror.

1608
01:05:01,069 --> 01:05:02,174
A lot of B movies - and...

1609
01:05:02,208 --> 01:05:03,278
Wow!

1610
01:05:03,313 --> 01:05:07,455
and soundtracks, posters,
just everything really.

1611
01:05:07,489 --> 01:05:09,250
I just remember the title:

1612
01:05:09,629 --> 01:05:12,115
Night of the Living Dead.

1613
01:05:12,701 --> 01:05:14,324
That was the scariest
title out there.

1614
01:05:14,358 --> 01:05:16,119
And I'm like, you know,
I saw the Exorcist.

1615
01:05:16,153 --> 01:05:17,292
And It's like, you know, I know.

1616
01:05:17,568 --> 01:05:19,156
But when that movie came out

1617
01:05:19,432 --> 01:05:21,262
I, no, I don't
wanna watch this man.

1618
01:05:21,296 --> 01:05:23,160
And like I heard this
is the scary one.

1619
01:05:23,505 --> 01:05:24,851
And when I saw it
and, I was just,

1620
01:05:25,438 --> 01:05:26,750
I got fish-hooked ever since,

1621
01:05:26,784 --> 01:05:28,925
you know. I'm, yeah I'm
on the Romero train for life.

1622
01:05:29,132 --> 01:05:31,410
It seems like a big
kinda family event.

1623
01:05:31,444 --> 01:05:32,376
Brian: Everybody...
Kim: Yes

1624
01:05:32,411 --> 01:05:33,653
knows everybody.

1625
01:05:33,688 --> 01:05:36,622
Like a family reunion - right?
Right - Oh yes, definitely.

1626
01:05:36,656 --> 01:05:37,968
Kim: Definitely.
[Brian OC] How does that work?

1627
01:05:38,003 --> 01:05:39,694
[Brian OC] Is that something
you look forward to?

1628
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:40,488
Right.

1629
01:05:41,351 --> 01:05:42,179
Kim: All the time.
Barbie: Yeah.

1630
01:05:42,214 --> 01:05:44,285
Ha ha, because again,

1631
01:05:44,699 --> 01:05:48,289
you see kinda the same people
at certain ones in the area,

1632
01:05:48,323 --> 01:05:50,498
so you do
definitely become friends

1633
01:05:50,808 --> 01:05:52,603
and you look forward
to seeing them too,

1634
01:05:52,638 --> 01:05:53,984
not just the celebrities.

1635
01:05:54,019 --> 01:05:55,158
You look forward to seeing them.

1636
01:05:55,192 --> 01:05:57,884
I just met Kim last year
at the same event,

1637
01:05:58,402 --> 01:06:00,266
and, you know,
of course, Facebook.

1638
01:06:00,301 --> 01:06:01,681
Kim: and we're on
Facebook a lot.

1639
01:06:01,716 --> 01:06:04,167
And Facebooks helps
keep everything in, yeah.

1640
01:06:04,581 --> 01:06:06,824
[Brenda OC] Do you have a
really outrageous story

1641
01:06:07,032 --> 01:06:09,827
from behind the scenes that
nobody would believe?

1642
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:12,796
I just heard one yesterday
from Tom Savini.

1643
01:06:12,830 --> 01:06:14,453
Ha ha - I'm sorry.

1644
01:06:14,487 --> 01:06:15,281
He said: "Jeanie".

1645
01:06:16,593 --> 01:06:19,285
Tom and I were doing
a, um, a Q&A

1646
01:06:20,666 --> 01:06:22,426
and he said to me, he said.

1647
01:06:22,461 --> 01:06:25,188
Do you remember when we
really got in trouble

1648
01:06:25,222 --> 01:06:26,568
in Dawn of the Dead?

1649
01:06:27,224 --> 01:06:28,570
And I said: "Yeah".

1650
01:06:28,605 --> 01:06:31,366
And then he brought it back. I
said is mine the same as yours?

1651
01:06:31,918 --> 01:06:33,127
One time, now,

1652
01:06:33,161 --> 01:06:35,853
you have to remember, we
were filming all night long.

1653
01:06:35,888 --> 01:06:37,303
All night long,

1654
01:06:37,924 --> 01:06:39,167
in the Monroeville Mall.

1655
01:06:39,202 --> 01:06:40,997
And then we had to
clean up after too.

1656
01:06:41,825 --> 01:06:42,481
Not that I had . . .

1657
01:06:42,895 --> 01:06:44,483
I left a lot of blood there, but

1658
01:06:45,484 --> 01:06:48,728
but, and then we had to shop
for the, um.

1659
01:06:48,763 --> 01:06:51,352
We had to shop for stuff
during the day, you know,

1660
01:06:51,731 --> 01:06:54,320
to create the stuff
we were doing at night. [laugh]

1661
01:06:55,045 --> 01:06:56,978
So one time Tom and I
were dead tired.

1662
01:06:57,013 --> 01:06:59,705
I don't think we he and I
had slept for 3 days.

1663
01:07:00,395 --> 01:07:02,328
We were working
all day buying stuff,

1664
01:07:02,363 --> 01:07:04,296
creating stuff,
talking about stuff.

1665
01:07:05,090 --> 01:07:07,540
And then night,
all night long,

1666
01:07:07,575 --> 01:07:08,886
we're filming.
And I'm doing stuff.

1667
01:07:08,921 --> 01:07:10,302
He's doing his stuff.

1668
01:07:10,750 --> 01:07:13,443
And, uh, we finally said,
let's, there's a room,

1669
01:07:14,444 --> 01:07:16,308
let's just lay down
for a couple hours.

1670
01:07:16,342 --> 01:07:17,171
I was like, okay.

1671
01:07:17,205 --> 01:07:18,931
So we went back
and just laid down.

1672
01:07:18,965 --> 01:07:20,312
I mean this is purely, like,

1673
01:07:20,622 --> 01:07:22,072
like you and me
just laying down.

1674
01:07:22,107 --> 01:07:24,454
This was just...
we just needed to rest.

1675
01:07:25,248 --> 01:07:27,112
So we rested for a couple hours.

1676
01:07:27,146 --> 01:07:29,700
Now get this.
We come out of the room,

1677
01:07:29,735 --> 01:07:31,116
and Tom is saying,

1678
01:07:31,564 --> 01:07:34,429
they were having this
huge board meeting.

1679
01:07:34,809 --> 01:07:37,363
I guess Richard Rubinstein
and Tom and,

1680
01:07:37,915 --> 01:07:39,158
they were having this huge,

1681
01:07:39,193 --> 01:07:41,816
important, quiet,
behind the scenes,

1682
01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:44,163
nobody else was invited meeting.

1683
01:07:44,474 --> 01:07:47,097
and Tom and I come out
and we're like. [snorting]

1684
01:07:47,132 --> 01:07:49,582
[laughing] So and we
got in trouble for that.

1685
01:07:50,445 --> 01:07:51,998
So that was a biggie.
[laughing]

1686
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,586
I'll never tell.

1687
01:07:54,173 --> 01:07:56,072
Tom Savini denies this, but

1688
01:07:56,451 --> 01:07:59,075
I, the first day I worked
on Day of the Dead,

1689
01:08:00,455 --> 01:08:02,457
um, was
the first day of shooting.

1690
01:08:03,562 --> 01:08:04,597
And, um,

1691
01:08:05,771 --> 01:08:07,083
They put on my makeup.

1692
01:08:07,117 --> 01:08:10,189
Took 2 1/2 to 3 hours
to do the makeup

1693
01:08:10,431 --> 01:08:11,949
and to do the appliance,

1694
01:08:12,467 --> 01:08:14,262
because they used a latex mask,

1695
01:08:14,952 --> 01:08:16,644
and do my hands.

1696
01:08:17,300 --> 01:08:18,680
And, um

1697
01:08:20,165 --> 01:08:21,097
we shot

1698
01:08:22,201 --> 01:08:25,549
uh for...overtime.
We went overtime.

1699
01:08:25,584 --> 01:08:28,518
Musta shot, it musta,
it was a really long day.

1700
01:08:29,795 --> 01:08:30,968
And, um,

1701
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:32,453
I came back

1702
01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:34,524
with the makeup on,
and came back

1703
01:08:34,558 --> 01:08:36,353
to the special effects room.

1704
01:08:37,043 --> 01:08:38,044
and they were gone.

1705
01:08:41,393 --> 01:08:43,843
Tom and all the interns,

1706
01:08:43,878 --> 01:08:45,776
Greg Nicotero, Howard Berger,

1707
01:08:46,363 --> 01:08:47,123
Mike Trcic,

1708
01:08:47,847 --> 01:08:48,607
were all gone.

1709
01:08:48,641 --> 01:08:50,195
And I had all this makeup on,

1710
01:08:51,299 --> 01:08:52,542
not knowing how,
I couldn't,

1711
01:08:52,887 --> 01:08:53,888
it wasn't just

1712
01:08:54,509 --> 01:08:55,924
makeup, stage makeup.

1713
01:08:56,546 --> 01:08:57,374
I couldn't get it off.

1714
01:08:57,409 --> 01:08:58,479
[Mike OC] They were appliances.

1715
01:08:58,513 --> 01:09:00,377
They were appliances.
I could take off part of it,

1716
01:09:00,412 --> 01:09:02,207
but I couldn't, and it was,

1717
01:09:02,897 --> 01:09:04,726
uh, so it was a nightmare.

1718
01:09:05,210 --> 01:09:06,487
So I had to drive home

1719
01:09:07,833 --> 01:09:09,835
with makeup on.
And at that time

1720
01:09:10,215 --> 01:09:11,216
there, it was on...

1721
01:09:11,595 --> 01:09:13,666
I had to take
the Pennsylvania Turnpike.

1722
01:09:13,873 --> 01:09:15,737
And there were
toll booth operators.

1723
01:09:16,048 --> 01:09:17,394
[Avery laughing]

1724
01:09:18,499 --> 01:09:19,534
So I'm coming through,

1725
01:09:20,017 --> 01:09:21,018
and it was also,

1726
01:09:22,192 --> 01:09:23,642
uh, it wasn't Halloween.

1727
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:24,919
And, [chuckles]

1728
01:09:25,644 --> 01:09:28,750
so I, I'm surprised that the
uh, toll booth operator,

1729
01:09:28,785 --> 01:09:31,753
did not call the
Pennsylvania State Police.

1730
01:09:31,788 --> 01:09:35,412
The fun thing for us
was that after, after, uh,

1731
01:09:35,999 --> 01:09:39,071
the night was over
and we're leaving,

1732
01:09:39,589 --> 01:09:42,178
there was a pancake kitchen
across the street from the Mall.

1733
01:09:42,212 --> 01:09:43,075
[Jeanie laughing]

1734
01:09:43,109 --> 01:09:46,078
And we all decided
that we were hungry,

1735
01:09:46,112 --> 01:09:47,735
so we were gonna go
for breakfast.

1736
01:09:48,114 --> 01:09:49,046
And, uh,

1737
01:09:49,599 --> 01:09:52,222
we all walk into this
pancake kitchen,

1738
01:09:52,257 --> 01:09:54,190
all still made up and bloody.

1739
01:09:54,845 --> 01:09:56,744
And these people,

1740
01:09:56,778 --> 01:09:58,884
they, I, don't,
they had no clue.

1741
01:09:59,574 --> 01:10:00,644
[Jeanie giggling]
You know it wasn't Halloween.

1742
01:10:00,679 --> 01:10:02,163
This was December, I think.

1743
01:10:02,508 --> 01:10:03,751
Yeah it was cold outside.

1744
01:10:03,785 --> 01:10:06,409
And they didn't know there was
anything going on at the Mall

1745
01:10:06,443 --> 01:10:08,238
being, being shot, you know, so.

1746
01:10:08,273 --> 01:10:10,275
Bob: I mean.
Jeanie: You can only imagine it.

1747
01:10:10,309 --> 01:10:14,002
Actually, you, I wish we'd
had photos of their faces.

1748
01:10:14,037 --> 01:10:15,556
[both laughing]

1749
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:17,385
Bob: But they did let us in.
Seriously, you can imagine.

1750
01:10:17,420 --> 01:10:19,456
[laughing]

1751
01:10:19,491 --> 01:10:22,218
When I met Tom
coming into the store,

1752
01:10:22,252 --> 01:10:24,081
I, I got his phone number

1753
01:10:24,289 --> 01:10:26,532
cause he said if you ever,
I forget what it was, but

1754
01:10:26,567 --> 01:10:28,741
if you ever find this magazine
or something.

1755
01:10:28,776 --> 01:10:30,605
Cause a lot of people
will come into the store

1756
01:10:30,847 --> 01:10:32,607
and have a magazine collection.

1757
01:10:32,814 --> 01:10:34,816
And we would buy it,
and then resell it.

1758
01:10:35,092 --> 01:10:37,233
So he was, I forget what
he was looking for,

1759
01:10:37,612 --> 01:10:38,613
but I had his phone number.

1760
01:10:38,855 --> 01:10:41,306
So then my girlfriend and I,

1761
01:10:41,340 --> 01:10:44,895
we were watching, um,
Knightriders on Cinemax.

1762
01:10:45,275 --> 01:10:47,588
She sees Savini on screen,

1763
01:10:47,622 --> 01:10:49,521
and, and she almost passes out.

1764
01:10:49,762 --> 01:10:51,592
[Mike mimicking her voice]
"That's the most handsome guy

1765
01:10:51,626 --> 01:10:53,697
I have ever seen in my life".
I can't...you know,

1766
01:10:54,042 --> 01:10:55,906
you know, I'm dating her.
And she's like

1767
01:10:56,286 --> 01:10:58,046
head over heels with this guy.

1768
01:10:58,288 --> 01:11:01,809
So what do? I say, I go
well, you know, I know him.

1769
01:11:01,843 --> 01:11:04,432
And she goes... [mimic voice]
No, you don't know him.

1770
01:11:04,639 --> 01:11:05,502
Yeah, I know him.

1771
01:11:05,985 --> 01:11:07,539
And she's: "No!"

1772
01:11:08,056 --> 01:11:10,473
Well, I'll call him right now.
I'll show you.

1773
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,751
She's - so then she got quiet.

1774
01:11:13,648 --> 01:11:15,271
I pick up the phone.
Dial the number.

1775
01:11:15,857 --> 01:11:17,100
Tom answers, and I go...

1776
01:11:17,134 --> 01:11:19,792
Hey Tom, it's Mike the guy
at the comic store.

1777
01:11:19,827 --> 01:11:20,690
"Oh, yeah yeah", he says.

1778
01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:23,382
I got someone here that
really wants to talk to you.

1779
01:11:23,658 --> 01:11:26,834
So I give the phone to Holly,
and she's like, uhhhh.

1780
01:11:27,075 --> 01:11:28,801
But then she ends up
talking to him.

1781
01:11:29,008 --> 01:11:30,182
So he invites us over.

1782
01:11:30,216 --> 01:11:31,839
He goes: "Hey what are
you guys doing right now"?

1783
01:11:32,184 --> 01:11:33,185
"Come on over".

1784
01:11:33,461 --> 01:11:34,669
So we go over to his house.

1785
01:11:34,704 --> 01:11:35,843
So it went from

1786
01:11:36,637 --> 01:11:38,777
a customer in a comic store,
Larry: Sure

1787
01:11:38,811 --> 01:11:40,123
to, uh,

1788
01:11:40,365 --> 01:11:41,297
oh hey come on over
to the house.

1789
01:11:41,331 --> 01:11:42,574
I'll show you what
I'm working on.

1790
01:11:42,608 --> 01:11:45,680
I'm working on some really cool
effects and stuff like that, so.

1791
01:11:45,715 --> 01:11:47,061
I go down in his basement

1792
01:11:47,337 --> 01:11:48,545
and I see all of this stuff.

1793
01:11:48,580 --> 01:11:50,685
And he's asking me questions:
"What do you think of this?"

1794
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,550
And, say, cause as a fan,
you know,

1795
01:11:53,757 --> 01:11:55,759
and then one thing
led to another

1796
01:11:55,794 --> 01:11:58,175
and we, we have this
real common interest in,

1797
01:11:58,659 --> 01:12:02,421
um, early science fiction films.

1798
01:12:02,663 --> 01:12:06,563
And we have these massive VHS
collections - both of us.

1799
01:12:06,598 --> 01:12:08,841
So I used to go over to his
house, and we used to watch,

1800
01:12:09,359 --> 01:12:11,050
you know, these - these
VHS tapes

1801
01:12:11,085 --> 01:12:13,398
and trade back and forth
and stuff like that.

1802
01:12:13,432 --> 01:12:15,296
And then, of course, the
opportunity came up...

1803
01:12:15,331 --> 01:12:17,885
"Hey, I'm, we're
shooting this thing

1804
01:12:17,919 --> 01:12:20,128
in this mine in Beaver Falls.

1805
01:12:20,163 --> 01:12:21,751
You wanna come out and,

1806
01:12:22,027 --> 01:12:23,062
you know, hang out on the set,

1807
01:12:23,373 --> 01:12:26,376
take pictures ,and I'll make
you into a zombie, so.

1808
01:12:27,584 --> 01:12:29,275
You know, my decision to

1809
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,899
go to the store that day

1810
01:12:31,933 --> 01:12:33,694
puts me in a chair with you,

1811
01:12:34,246 --> 01:12:36,110
making a documentary film.

1812
01:12:36,386 --> 01:12:37,905
One of my earlier jobs,

1813
01:12:38,354 --> 01:12:40,217
uh, before we were publishing,

1814
01:12:40,459 --> 01:12:42,047
when I first got
out of high school,

1815
01:12:42,081 --> 01:12:44,532
I was a messenger
for an advertising agency.

1816
01:12:44,981 --> 01:12:48,605
And, uh, I had to constantly
be delivering packages

1817
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,435
or picking them up
from different places.

1818
01:12:50,711 --> 01:12:53,852
And there was one particular
place I hated to go to because

1819
01:12:53,886 --> 01:12:55,405
it was - it had like

1820
01:12:55,957 --> 01:12:59,133
30 steps I had to keep walking
up to get to their offices.

1821
01:12:59,167 --> 01:13:00,203
There was no elevator.

1822
01:13:00,237 --> 01:13:03,448
And, uh, later on I realized
that it was called

1823
01:13:03,482 --> 01:13:05,139
Hardman Eastman Studios.

1824
01:13:05,553 --> 01:13:07,659
And, uh, the place I worked for

1825
01:13:07,693 --> 01:13:09,074
was doing
a lot of commercial work.

1826
01:13:09,419 --> 01:13:12,767
Uh, for and, uh, and
video work.

1827
01:13:13,078 --> 01:13:14,838
And it ended up it was

1828
01:13:14,873 --> 01:13:18,014
Marilyn Eastman and Karl Hardman
and I hadn't even realized that.

1829
01:13:18,255 --> 01:13:20,016
That was only 2 years after
Night of the Living Dead

1830
01:13:20,050 --> 01:13:21,224
was made, so.

1831
01:13:21,914 --> 01:13:23,433
I think one of the things,

1832
01:13:23,468 --> 01:13:26,160
and George and I
used to talk about this, um.

1833
01:13:27,299 --> 01:13:29,750
Uh, we talked about this
extensively at one point.

1834
01:13:30,164 --> 01:13:31,476
[clearing throat] People,

1835
01:13:31,959 --> 01:13:33,823
one, this notion that
like, when they made

1836
01:13:33,857 --> 01:13:34,617
Night of the Living Dead,

1837
01:13:34,651 --> 01:13:36,273
that they were a
bunch of amateurs.

1838
01:13:36,308 --> 01:13:37,999
That's...not true.

1839
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:39,898
Bob M: Right.
Bob T: They had already...

1840
01:13:39,932 --> 01:13:42,038
There were a lot of people.
They were working a lot.

1841
01:13:42,521 --> 01:13:45,006
Pittsburgh was a phenomenally
creative town. You had

1842
01:13:45,041 --> 01:13:46,767
Ad agencies like
Ketchum MacLeod.

1843
01:13:47,215 --> 01:13:49,321
There was this network
of creativity. There was

1844
01:13:49,355 --> 01:13:51,841
WQED, you had Westinghouse
doing documentaries.

1845
01:13:52,186 --> 01:13:55,085
There were not 1 but 2 motion
picture labs in Pittsburgh.

1846
01:13:56,190 --> 01:13:59,193
And all the corporations
PPG and Heinz...

1847
01:13:59,227 --> 01:14:00,988
[Tinnel OC] So you had people.
You had illustrators,.

1848
01:14:01,022 --> 01:14:03,197
You had filmmakers.
You had editors. You had,

1849
01:14:03,646 --> 01:14:05,441
you know, it was a very
very creative town.

1850
01:14:05,475 --> 01:14:05,993
Right.

1851
01:14:06,338 --> 01:14:08,167
I mean it was, um.
[clearing throat]

1852
01:14:08,823 --> 01:14:10,031
They were hardly, like

1853
01:14:10,618 --> 01:14:12,344
you know, in Mom's basement

1854
01:14:12,378 --> 01:14:14,795
somewhere in Canton Ohio
trying to figure it out.

1855
01:14:14,829 --> 01:14:17,349
I mean, they were, they were
making a living doing this.

1856
01:14:17,383 --> 01:14:19,282
It was people doing
commercial work saying,

1857
01:14:19,316 --> 01:14:21,146
boy I'd really love
to make a movie.

1858
01:14:24,839 --> 01:14:25,599
What happens when a

1859
01:14:25,633 --> 01:14:26,703
Calgon research team

1860
01:14:26,738 --> 01:14:27,773
and their submarine are

1861
01:14:27,808 --> 01:14:28,947
reduced to micro size

1862
01:14:28,981 --> 01:14:30,776
and sent on a dangerous mission

1863
01:14:30,811 --> 01:14:32,468
deep inside a washing machine.

1864
01:14:33,745 --> 01:14:35,540
[alarm blaring]

1865
01:14:35,574 --> 01:14:38,059
Engines are at full captain!
We're stuck!

1866
01:14:38,094 --> 01:14:40,234
We've got to find out
what's on those fibers!

1867
01:14:40,821 --> 01:14:43,789
It was just such a - an
infancy in the whole

1868
01:14:44,307 --> 01:14:45,515
movie business.

1869
01:14:45,860 --> 01:14:47,552
I don't think anyone at the time

1870
01:14:48,622 --> 01:14:51,797
realized the hunger that people
had to know more about George,

1871
01:14:51,832 --> 01:14:55,698
or know more about Joe Dante
or John Landis, or any of this,

1872
01:14:56,077 --> 01:14:58,494
John Carpenter and
all this crazy wonderful

1873
01:14:59,046 --> 01:15:01,013
horror filmmaking that was
coming out of the late 70's.

1874
01:15:01,048 --> 01:15:03,050
And we were right there
with George. So we were

1875
01:15:03,084 --> 01:15:04,603
one of the first magazines

1876
01:15:04,638 --> 01:15:06,709
to do a - a feature
article on George.

1877
01:15:07,364 --> 01:15:09,159
Uh, and uh, we did one on

1878
01:15:09,194 --> 01:15:09,884
Mike Gornick.

1879
01:15:10,367 --> 01:15:12,853
And, uh, and then we
also did one on

1880
01:15:13,060 --> 01:15:15,200
Dawn of the Dead - probably one
of the first articles

1881
01:15:15,545 --> 01:15:17,064
on Dawn of the Dead.

1882
01:15:17,098 --> 01:15:18,548
And also leads into

1883
01:15:18,962 --> 01:15:20,654
that I had also designed
and published the

1884
01:15:20,688 --> 01:15:23,691
Dawn of the Dead
Poster Book, uh.

1885
01:15:23,726 --> 01:15:25,590
I also worked for
an ad agency a lot,

1886
01:15:25,935 --> 01:15:29,076
and, uh, we did a lot of
fake labels around

1887
01:15:29,455 --> 01:15:32,528
product that was in JC Penneys
in Dawn of the Dead.

1888
01:15:34,219 --> 01:15:36,739
♪ creepy music ♪

1889
01:15:38,568 --> 01:15:41,088
Because they weren't allowed
to show the actual names

1890
01:15:41,122 --> 01:15:44,263
of the makeup and everything.
So we had to

1891
01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:46,956
make up all these labels,
and - and

1892
01:15:47,646 --> 01:15:48,682
cover all the labels.

1893
01:15:48,716 --> 01:15:51,063
You know how like the
Brill Building in New York

1894
01:15:51,098 --> 01:15:54,895
is like the - the place where
all this great music like came.

1895
01:15:55,378 --> 01:15:56,310
You know what I'm talking about?

1896
01:15:56,344 --> 01:15:57,622
Like that's where a lot of
the songwriters,

1897
01:15:57,656 --> 01:15:59,037
Carole King, Neil Sedaka,

1898
01:15:59,071 --> 01:16:00,038
where they all hung out?

1899
01:16:00,072 --> 01:16:01,729
It's like 247
Fort Pitt Boulevard

1900
01:16:01,764 --> 01:16:04,525
is like the Horror
Brill Building, because...

1901
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,733
Exactly. You also
had the animators.

1902
01:16:05,768 --> 01:16:07,217
Because you had
the animators there.

1903
01:16:07,252 --> 01:16:08,425
Rick Catizone was there.

1904
01:16:08,460 --> 01:16:09,461
I mean, I would just go upstairs

1905
01:16:09,495 --> 01:16:10,635
and hang out while he was doing

1906
01:16:11,567 --> 01:16:13,569
you know, pencil tests
for Creepshow.

1907
01:16:13,914 --> 01:16:15,985
I remember the first time I saw
footage of like the Creep.

1908
01:16:17,089 --> 01:16:18,332
It was just nice that

1909
01:16:18,746 --> 01:16:21,507
we were all in the same building
so we all became friends.

1910
01:16:23,337 --> 01:16:27,755
So how many days were you
the "Beef Treats" zombie

1911
01:16:28,169 --> 01:16:29,343
on the set of Day of the Dead?

1912
01:16:30,102 --> 01:16:34,003
Um, I think I was at least 4.

1913
01:16:35,038 --> 01:16:37,178
There's, because I'm
in different scenes...

1914
01:16:37,627 --> 01:16:38,594
You're there with Debra Gordon.

1915
01:16:39,353 --> 01:16:40,630
Mark [OC] Yeah, there's part of

1916
01:16:40,665 --> 01:16:42,805
it is with Debra,
because we were

1917
01:16:42,839 --> 01:16:47,533
we were, uh, corralled.
We were in the corral and, uh,

1918
01:16:48,017 --> 01:16:50,640
as a matter of fact, uh, Steel,

1919
01:16:51,089 --> 01:16:52,366
played by Gary Klar,

1920
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,851
knocks off my had and says:
"Nice hat, asshole."

1921
01:16:54,886 --> 01:16:55,852
And knocks my hat off.

1922
01:16:56,681 --> 01:16:57,854
Klar: "Nice hat, asshole."

1923
01:16:59,166 --> 01:17:02,031
And, uh, we're-we're collected.

1924
01:17:03,170 --> 01:17:04,896
Then we're in the lab.

1925
01:17:05,241 --> 01:17:09,486
Dr. Logan's lab, who was played
by Richard Liberty,

1926
01:17:09,901 --> 01:17:12,973
[Mark OC] who was a
fantastic actor, and...

1927
01:17:13,387 --> 01:17:18,461
Um, uh, so uh, um,

1928
01:17:19,255 --> 01:17:23,328
so Debra Gordon's character and
I are chained to the wall.

1929
01:17:23,535 --> 01:17:27,297
[Zombies growling, Men shouting]

1930
01:17:27,643 --> 01:17:28,713
And then she disappears.

1931
01:17:28,747 --> 01:17:30,231
I don't know where she went.

1932
01:17:30,266 --> 01:17:31,785
I think she went out for pizza.

1933
01:17:32,371 --> 01:17:33,372
What?

1934
01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:38,412
♪ finger picking guitar music ♪

1935
01:17:46,075 --> 01:17:47,455
Larry: Near the end of
Day of the Dead,

1936
01:17:47,490 --> 01:17:49,216
your Football Zombie character

1937
01:17:49,250 --> 01:17:51,390
attacks Miguel on the platform.

1938
01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:53,634
That first scene
was shot in Florida,

1939
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:55,222
and the other in Pennsylvania.

1940
01:17:55,774 --> 01:17:58,570
Your character's wardrobe was
specifically chosen to

1941
01:17:58,604 --> 01:18:01,090
add continunity
between these 2 locations.

1942
01:18:02,022 --> 01:18:04,852
Yes, actually I didn't know at
the time that I was

1943
01:18:04,887 --> 01:18:06,336
a continunity zombie.

1944
01:18:06,785 --> 01:18:08,994
But unfortunately, because I was

1945
01:18:09,201 --> 01:18:11,203
so short, uh,

1946
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,690
the jersey would not
fit correctly.

1947
01:18:15,587 --> 01:18:20,212
So the costume designer didn't
know you know what to do.

1948
01:18:20,247 --> 01:18:24,389
Well you know what? Take
the jersey and flip it around.

1949
01:18:25,045 --> 01:18:26,046
What?

1950
01:18:27,116 --> 01:18:29,635
And we flipped it around
so it would fit better.

1951
01:18:30,050 --> 01:18:33,363
So "MAILBOX" which is
supposed to be on the rear,

1952
01:18:33,570 --> 01:18:34,779
said it on the front.

1953
01:18:35,227 --> 01:18:37,367
. . . sorry, honey
we're gonna work it out.

1954
01:18:38,817 --> 01:18:42,027
Oh my God.
I didn't know about that.

1955
01:18:43,995 --> 01:18:47,308
Where the continunity error
came in was when

1956
01:18:47,343 --> 01:18:51,071
the scene they had filmed before
mine in the Wampum mines,

1957
01:18:51,278 --> 01:18:54,730
the extra was
wearing the jersey correctly.

1958
01:18:55,178 --> 01:18:56,766
And, uh, not only was

1959
01:18:56,801 --> 01:18:58,768
that extra much taller than me,

1960
01:18:59,182 --> 01:19:01,357
uh, she also was a woman.

1961
01:19:01,875 --> 01:19:04,118
We did that scene twice
with me coming through the gate

1962
01:19:04,153 --> 01:19:07,156
where I'm coming up on
to that platform there.

1963
01:19:07,432 --> 01:19:11,574
The first time we did that
scene, I had my wristwatch on,

1964
01:19:11,781 --> 01:19:14,128
and I hear George yell: "Cut".

1965
01:19:14,922 --> 01:19:20,583
That was great, but Mailbox 22,
I
need for you to come over here.

1966
01:19:20,928 --> 01:19:24,104
And I was scared to death
I was only 19 years old.

1967
01:19:24,138 --> 01:19:26,244
I figured, oh well,
he didn't like what I did.

1968
01:19:26,278 --> 01:19:27,590
He didn't like the way I looked.

1969
01:19:27,624 --> 01:19:29,868
He's sending me home.
That's it.

1970
01:19:30,110 --> 01:19:31,490
He says: "No, we're gonna
do it again but

1971
01:19:31,525 --> 01:19:33,423
you gotta take
that wristwatch off".

1972
01:19:33,458 --> 01:19:36,668
So thankfully, the tube sock
was the style then,

1973
01:19:36,702 --> 01:19:40,051
so I stuffed the
wristwatch in my sock

1974
01:19:40,085 --> 01:19:43,571
and pulled it up cause the the
pants that came with the jersey

1975
01:19:43,606 --> 01:19:44,780
didn't have any pockets.

1976
01:19:45,228 --> 01:19:48,507
So then George actually
gave me some direction.

1977
01:19:48,542 --> 01:19:50,889
He says:
"Look what you did was great".

1978
01:19:51,131 --> 01:19:54,134
"What you did in the first take
I want you to do again".

1979
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,861
"Do it exactly the
way you did it".

1980
01:19:57,068 --> 01:20:00,278
So I went back.
We got everything set up.

1981
01:20:00,312 --> 01:20:01,831
I came through the gate.

1982
01:20:02,073 --> 01:20:03,695
Came all th way across

1983
01:20:03,902 --> 01:20:07,492
till we got up to the platform
where Miguel was laying.

1984
01:20:07,526 --> 01:20:09,977
And you could see
my hand touch his face.

1985
01:20:12,393 --> 01:20:14,188
[screaming]

1986
01:20:14,533 --> 01:20:16,535
It was all sweaty, and then
the hand, and then

1987
01:20:16,570 --> 01:20:19,228
George said: "That was great!"

1988
01:20:19,262 --> 01:20:22,300
So that take is exactly the
the take that you see

1989
01:20:22,334 --> 01:20:25,027
in the movie,
cause we only did it 2 times.

1990
01:20:25,061 --> 01:20:28,651
There's a scene where I'm
trying to get to to Dr. Logan.

1991
01:20:28,685 --> 01:20:32,241
And I'm grabbing at him and,
I'm, but I can't reach him.

1992
01:20:32,897 --> 01:20:33,863
They have to be rewarded.

1993
01:20:34,553 --> 01:20:35,554
Reward is the key.

1994
01:20:35,865 --> 01:20:37,108
I'm convinced of that now.

1995
01:20:38,247 --> 01:20:40,352
And he-he says:
"I'm gonna teach you a lesson".

1996
01:20:40,387 --> 01:20:42,699
And then he turns out
the lights, and I'm..

1997
01:20:43,183 --> 01:20:44,184
I'm scared,

1998
01:20:44,218 --> 01:20:45,426
which a zombie would not.

1999
01:20:45,461 --> 01:20:47,566
A normal zombie
would not be scared.

2000
01:20:47,601 --> 01:20:48,878
And and I-I whimper.

2001
01:20:51,191 --> 01:20:52,848
[Mark wimpers]

2002
01:20:54,194 --> 01:20:57,611
I improvised that, cause I asked
George if that would be okay.

2003
01:20:57,956 --> 01:21:00,441
And he... And one of
the things about George

2004
01:21:00,476 --> 01:21:05,791
is he was a, he's, uh, was a,
was a actor's director.

2005
01:21:06,447 --> 01:21:09,899
And he let the actor's
creativity flow.

2006
01:21:10,279 --> 01:21:12,246
And he was tremendous.

2007
01:21:13,385 --> 01:21:16,630
♪ spooky music ♪

2008
01:21:17,665 --> 01:21:19,771
Look, we've been
planning this out for weeks.

2009
01:21:19,805 --> 01:21:21,738
We don't need the glow
in the dark makeup to win.

2010
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:23,361
Where is it now?

2011
01:21:23,395 --> 01:21:24,949
Well I gave it to, uh...

2012
01:21:24,983 --> 01:21:26,882
Me, job done.

2013
01:21:27,434 --> 01:21:28,676
What do you mean?

2014
01:21:28,711 --> 01:21:30,230
I mixed it into Amy's kit.

2015
01:21:31,231 --> 01:21:32,232
Nate!

2016
01:21:32,473 --> 01:21:33,958
Okay, I got it.

2017
01:21:33,992 --> 01:21:36,236
Uh, did you guys
smell that stuff?

2018
01:21:36,270 --> 01:21:37,616
It looked like it was
freakin radioactive.

2019
01:21:38,031 --> 01:21:39,273
Where'd you even get it from?

2020
01:21:39,308 --> 01:21:42,621
Well I got it from that Magic
Shop just past the drug store.

2021
01:21:43,243 --> 01:21:43,899
Where?

2022
01:21:44,416 --> 01:21:45,797
By the cemetery...

2023
01:21:46,694 --> 01:21:49,456
You mean the one that's owned
by that creepy old guy?

2024
01:21:49,939 --> 01:21:50,733
Yeah.

2025
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,460
Well, hold on a second,
let me get this straight.

2026
01:21:53,494 --> 01:21:56,083
You're talking about that shop
with the rat skeletons

2027
01:21:56,118 --> 01:21:58,120
and the
eyeballs in jars and stuff.

2028
01:21:58,154 --> 01:21:59,535
Yeah, that's the one.

2029
01:22:00,467 --> 01:22:02,607
That place closed down
like a year ago.

2030
01:22:03,401 --> 01:22:04,954
No, you guys don't know
what you're talking about.

2031
01:22:04,989 --> 01:22:07,750
I was there.
I got the stuff from that guy.

2032
01:22:07,784 --> 01:22:09,994
And yes, he's a
really creepy guy.

2033
01:22:10,856 --> 01:22:12,548
That's some Twilight Zone
crap right there,

2034
01:22:12,582 --> 01:22:13,894
cause I'm telling you

2035
01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:17,346
that the DEA, FDA, EPA,
or somebody

2036
01:22:17,380 --> 01:22:19,175
came in there,
raided the place,

2037
01:22:19,210 --> 01:22:20,452
and shut his ass down.

2038
01:22:22,696 --> 01:22:24,180
But that's where I was.

2039
01:22:24,215 --> 01:22:26,286
That's why I was late for the
studio the other day.

2040
01:22:28,978 --> 01:22:30,083
I was there!

2041
01:22:31,049 --> 01:22:32,430
Dude, David's right.

2042
01:22:32,844 --> 01:22:34,880
That place hasn't
existed for a while now.

2043
01:22:35,709 --> 01:22:36,710
What did you do?

2044
01:22:37,780 --> 01:22:41,335
♪ scary metal music ♪

2045
01:22:42,474 --> 01:22:43,820
Don't just sit there!

2046
01:22:44,131 --> 01:22:45,443
Go get that stuff!

2047
01:22:47,686 --> 01:22:48,618
NOW!

2048
01:22:53,865 --> 01:22:57,282
♪ scary music ♪

2049
01:22:58,801 --> 01:23:00,976
In Creepshow, um,

2050
01:23:01,390 --> 01:23:04,324
at the end of the, uh, segment

2051
01:23:04,910 --> 01:23:06,188
"To Tide You Over".

2052
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:11,020
Um, Ted Danson and,
uh, Galen Ross,

2053
01:23:11,055 --> 01:23:14,748
who are the two play the
two, uh, characters who are

2054
01:23:15,128 --> 01:23:17,199
killed by
Leslie Nielsen's character.

2055
01:23:17,923 --> 01:23:20,236
Uh, come back from the dead.

2056
01:23:20,547 --> 01:23:22,204
[garbled] Want you to

2057
01:23:22,238 --> 01:23:23,550
come to the beach!

2058
01:23:24,275 --> 01:23:27,692
As-as zombies, I guess.
Return as zombies.

2059
01:23:28,175 --> 01:23:31,523
And, uh, the I, uh...

2060
01:23:31,558 --> 01:23:32,869
I believe they had to leave.

2061
01:23:32,904 --> 01:23:35,527
I don't know who,
which of the two

2062
01:23:36,114 --> 01:23:37,426
had to leave early,

2063
01:23:37,805 --> 01:23:40,946
but, um, they could only do
so-so much shooting.

2064
01:23:41,395 --> 01:23:44,881
So they, uh, George
recruited myself

2065
01:23:45,917 --> 01:23:53,925
and uh-uh Leslie Sullivan, who
was a PA, I believe, on the set.

2066
01:23:53,959 --> 01:23:55,340
So he grabbed
a PA off of the set.

2067
01:23:55,375 --> 01:23:55,651
Sure.

2068
01:23:55,685 --> 01:23:56,583
Alright.

2069
01:23:56,617 --> 01:23:58,378
And we became
those characters and...

2070
01:23:58,688 --> 01:24:00,276
They were wearing, uh,

2071
01:24:00,932 --> 01:24:06,593
shrouds with, uh, covered with
uh, with, um, seaweed.

2072
01:24:08,215 --> 01:24:12,461
But, um, and when
Ted Danson and Galen were...

2073
01:24:12,909 --> 01:24:16,085
Uh, Galen Ross were,
you could see their faces.

2074
01:24:16,396 --> 01:24:18,191
But they needed body shots,

2075
01:24:18,812 --> 01:24:22,022
and so they used
myself and Leslie

2076
01:24:22,816 --> 01:24:25,439
to come back
as the, as the...

2077
01:24:25,474 --> 01:24:30,306
So, and some of the shots is
actually me and Leslie Sullivan.

2078
01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:33,585
♪ creepy music ♪

2079
01:24:36,105 --> 01:24:40,247
[Brenda] I see absolutely no
resemblance to your face

2080
01:24:40,282 --> 01:24:43,008
when I compare it to
your zombie makeup.

2081
01:24:43,457 --> 01:24:46,598
So how long did that take?
What was it like?

2082
01:24:46,978 --> 01:24:50,292
That's a great question because
nobody's ever asked that before.

2083
01:24:50,671 --> 01:24:53,605
Because I remember he put on
a cast on my face.

2084
01:24:54,261 --> 01:24:57,264
I couldn't see.
I had a straw

2085
01:24:57,299 --> 01:24:59,473
to breathe out of.
My nose was plugged up.

2086
01:25:00,164 --> 01:25:01,855
I'm thinking,
I don't know this guy.

2087
01:25:02,269 --> 01:25:04,168
So I'm in this silent...

2088
01:25:04,202 --> 01:25:06,722
This is Tom Savini, I mean
I met him, I gave him $100

2089
01:25:06,756 --> 01:25:08,482
and he-he had me do this and

2090
01:25:08,517 --> 01:25:10,622
George wanted to
put me in the movie.

2091
01:25:11,071 --> 01:25:13,177
But I-I remember being
under this, but it took...

2092
01:25:13,591 --> 01:25:17,284
It took Tom about...
Well, we had to do a cast and

2093
01:25:17,802 --> 01:25:20,356
I wanna say it took us about
3 days to do what

2094
01:25:20,391 --> 01:25:21,944
Tom did to my face.

2095
01:25:22,496 --> 01:25:25,672
And then he put a squib, I had
to have a squib underneath.

2096
01:25:25,706 --> 01:25:27,881
But, yeah, you you don't do
stuff like that anymore.

2097
01:25:27,915 --> 01:25:30,090
But I remember when I first came
out before I had the

2098
01:25:30,125 --> 01:25:33,024
whole face thing on, um...

2099
01:25:34,301 --> 01:25:38,271
Tom...George Romero said:
"Tom, no she's still pretty".

2100
01:25:38,305 --> 01:25:39,582
"I want her to look ugly".

2101
01:25:39,824 --> 01:25:41,998
So we had to walk,
we had to...

2102
01:25:43,068 --> 01:25:45,140
And he had to put a
little more blood here.

2103
01:25:45,174 --> 01:25:48,350
So, and um-um but I remember
that George said

2104
01:25:48,384 --> 01:25:51,560
"No she looks she still
looks too pretty", like aww.

2105
01:25:51,905 --> 01:25:54,804
But you had to wear that,
and that squib that was put

2106
01:25:54,839 --> 01:25:57,980
on my face. They don't do that
stuff nowadays anymore.

2107
01:25:58,014 --> 01:26:02,122
Can you imagine if it would have
instead-instead of exploding,

2108
01:26:02,157 --> 01:26:04,366
it would of imploded?
I would have looked like

2109
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:05,401
that one picture of me

2110
01:26:05,677 --> 01:26:07,127
after I did my scene.

2111
01:26:07,162 --> 01:26:08,646
It would have really...

2112
01:26:08,991 --> 01:26:11,373
But it didn't.
The guy was a genius.

2113
01:26:11,407 --> 01:26:13,685
And then, you know, and then
I had one on my back

2114
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,688
after they shot me in the chest.
And the back blew apart.

2115
01:26:16,895 --> 01:26:18,656
♪ suspenseful music ♪

2116
01:26:20,278 --> 01:26:21,210
[gunshot]

2117
01:26:21,452 --> 01:26:23,039
Now that...I could
feel them though.

2118
01:26:23,557 --> 01:26:26,077
They're a they're like a
profil - prophylactic

2119
01:26:26,111 --> 01:26:28,286
filled with blood... that 3M
simulated blood.

2120
01:26:28,666 --> 01:26:31,669
I could feel when they touched
the battery wires together.

2121
01:26:31,703 --> 01:26:34,085
And I went - I could tell
and since I felt it..

2122
01:26:34,119 --> 01:26:35,707
when I was supposed to react.

2123
01:26:36,984 --> 01:26:38,848
Thanks for liking my scene
by the way, all of you!

2124
01:26:38,883 --> 01:26:41,782
This is so nice, I mean
geez-o-pete!

2125
01:26:42,266 --> 01:26:46,477
Cause I, you know, I by then I
was friends with Tom and Jeanie

2126
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,859
and had met George and,
and everything we, uh,

2127
01:26:50,343 --> 01:26:53,725
uh, you know we got to be
made up and I-I got to be,

2128
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,211
you know, a special zombie
is what they called them then.

2129
01:26:56,245 --> 01:26:58,489
So I was one of the ones,
you know, that was

2130
01:26:58,523 --> 01:27:01,664
able to get made up with the
squib and everthing and get, uh.

2131
01:27:02,147 --> 01:27:04,391
Yeah none of us knew what
we were gonna be doing.

2132
01:27:04,633 --> 01:27:06,290
You know, we were there
prettly much all night

2133
01:27:06,324 --> 01:27:09,672
in the makeup room, uh,
you know, just waiting around.

2134
01:27:10,155 --> 01:27:13,607
But uh, you know then they would
call us out, you know, and, uh.

2135
01:27:13,918 --> 01:27:16,817
My wife was with us, uh
and uh, she was made up.

2136
01:27:16,852 --> 01:27:19,406
She-she never really did
make the movie even though

2137
01:27:19,924 --> 01:27:22,478
she was in some scenes, but
they-they actually got cut.

2138
01:27:22,927 --> 01:27:26,620
And I didn't know that at the
time it was gonna be a close up.

2139
01:27:26,931 --> 01:27:29,278
Uh, the way it ended up,
because it was, uh...

2140
01:27:29,485 --> 01:27:31,073
It was a funny story, you know,

2141
01:27:31,107 --> 01:27:33,386
when we went to do it,
they explained to me

2142
01:27:33,420 --> 01:27:36,285
how the squib worked and that,
you know, Tom was sitting

2143
01:27:36,527 --> 01:27:40,600
across from me holding this
this fishing line

2144
01:27:40,634 --> 01:27:42,671
with a button that
was in my forehead

2145
01:27:42,705 --> 01:27:44,086
that had been made up, you know.

2146
01:27:44,362 --> 01:27:47,434
And what was gonna happen
when I hear the gunshot,

2147
01:27:47,883 --> 01:27:49,436
you know, that I knew to drop.

2148
01:27:50,057 --> 01:27:52,577
And that was great, you know.
George was standing there,

2149
01:27:52,612 --> 01:27:55,131
and he was so casual about it,

2150
01:27:55,339 --> 01:27:56,961
you know, and now
they're ready to go

2151
01:27:56,995 --> 01:27:58,859
and now I'm thinking,
well how do I fall?

2152
01:27:58,894 --> 01:28:00,689
Forward or backwards, or...

2153
01:28:00,723 --> 01:28:03,036
You know, and then I heard
the noise that fast

2154
01:28:03,070 --> 01:28:04,313
and I just went down.

2155
01:28:04,348 --> 01:28:06,660
You know, and I didn't realize
it was only gonna be a tight

2156
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,869
head shot either.
And there was no...

2157
01:28:08,904 --> 01:28:11,009
You know, Ken Foree was not
on the set at the time.

2158
01:28:11,044 --> 01:28:13,253
There was nobody
shooting a gun, you know.

2159
01:28:13,288 --> 01:28:15,980
It was just-just
that scene that was shot.

2160
01:28:16,014 --> 01:28:18,672
So it was-it was an interesting
uh, way to see

2161
01:28:18,707 --> 01:28:21,157
how-how
movie making took place.

2162
01:28:21,192 --> 01:28:23,470
And no one, especially me,

2163
01:28:23,919 --> 01:28:26,024
would have figured that
beyond that night,

2164
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,408
or getting to see myself on
screen when the movie came out.

2165
01:28:30,650 --> 01:28:33,169
That anybody was ever gonna
care about it after that.

2166
01:28:33,998 --> 01:28:36,518
What do you think of
George Romero's influence

2167
01:28:36,552 --> 01:28:38,865
on the world of
film and horror, because

2168
01:28:39,348 --> 01:28:41,971
so many things out there
have been inspired by him.

2169
01:28:42,006 --> 01:28:44,077
He pretty much created
the modern zombie.

2170
01:28:44,111 --> 01:28:46,700
Yeah he did, uh, and they didn't
even call it a zombie

2171
01:28:46,735 --> 01:28:48,081
in the beginning.
They they called it a a ghoul.

2172
01:28:48,115 --> 01:28:49,324
Right.

2173
01:28:49,358 --> 01:28:54,156
Uh, and I'm-I'm watching,
I'm watching Walking Dead, which

2174
01:28:55,088 --> 01:28:56,572
I was a huge fan of.

2175
01:28:56,607 --> 01:29:00,542
Actually when they came out with
the remake of Dawn of the Dead,

2176
01:29:00,576 --> 01:29:02,475
that really scared me because

2177
01:29:03,096 --> 01:29:04,615
in a Zombie Apocopalyse,

2178
01:29:04,925 --> 01:29:07,169
really all you need to do
is cross the street.

2179
01:29:07,203 --> 01:29:08,929
The zombies are slow, you know.

2180
01:29:08,964 --> 01:29:11,346
But in Dawn of the Dead [2004]
and World War Z,

2181
01:29:11,380 --> 01:29:13,693
that really freaked me out
because they're fast!

2182
01:29:14,141 --> 01:29:16,316
And-and I'm not
young enough where

2183
01:29:16,351 --> 01:29:18,767
I can get away from them
anymore, so I'm dead

2184
01:29:19,043 --> 01:29:20,355
in a Zombie Apocopalyse.

2185
01:29:21,286 --> 01:29:23,081
But I see Greg Nicotero

2186
01:29:23,116 --> 01:29:26,222
is the guy that is responsible
for The Walking Dead,

2187
01:29:26,257 --> 01:29:27,327
and Greg was basically...

2188
01:29:27,362 --> 01:29:28,708
Larry: He started with you
on Day of the Dead.

2189
01:29:28,742 --> 01:29:31,089
Mike: Yeah, and so he's
an apprentice to Tom basically

2190
01:29:31,124 --> 01:29:32,159
on Day of the Dead.

2191
01:29:32,194 --> 01:29:33,954
And I-and I have
some interesting

2192
01:29:33,989 --> 01:29:35,956
behind the scenes photos that

2193
01:29:36,267 --> 01:29:38,683
show a scene that was
actually cut from the film.

2194
01:29:38,925 --> 01:29:40,305
That's very interesting.

2195
01:29:40,340 --> 01:29:45,207
Yeah, so we - Greg. uh is
ripping Taso's head off.

2196
01:29:45,241 --> 01:29:46,829
Mike: Uh, you know
the Torrez scene

2197
01:29:46,864 --> 01:29:47,796
rips his head off.

2198
01:29:48,279 --> 01:29:50,074
Mike: And that all
went really well.

2199
01:29:50,626 --> 01:29:53,353
Uh, but then he's
standing there with the head,

2200
01:29:53,388 --> 01:29:55,390
and in this one photo
you can see

2201
01:29:55,424 --> 01:29:57,840
George has the
camera on a dolly.

2202
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,016
And and Greg is looking that way

2203
01:30:01,050 --> 01:30:02,120
and he's holding the head.

2204
01:30:02,155 --> 01:30:04,295
And the head is
looking this way.

2205
01:30:04,329 --> 01:30:08,264
And, uh, so the dolly
uh, follows the head

2206
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,991
as it screams silently.

2207
01:30:11,578 --> 01:30:12,579
Meanwhile there's an operator

2208
01:30:12,614 --> 01:30:14,581
that has cables going down

2209
01:30:14,857 --> 01:30:16,445
Greg's back and down his sleeve

2210
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:17,791
and into the fake head.

2211
01:30:18,205 --> 01:30:21,070
So its screaming silently
and the dolly's following it.

2212
01:30:21,105 --> 01:30:22,658
Mike: That took hours
Larry: Wow!

2213
01:30:22,693 --> 01:30:25,972
to film and then [spits].
Cut from the film.

2214
01:30:26,628 --> 01:30:28,871
So, you know,
Greg starts with Tom.

2215
01:30:28,906 --> 01:30:31,460
Well Tom, actually,
started with Alan Ormsby.

2216
01:30:32,047 --> 01:30:33,876
Right? Isn't that?
Do I have that right?

2217
01:30:33,911 --> 01:30:36,223
Larry: Deathdream.
Mike: Uh, yeah Deathdream.

2218
01:30:36,258 --> 01:30:38,122
That was a creepy film.

2219
01:30:38,156 --> 01:30:40,814
So that - that connection
comes up, and I'm sure

2220
01:30:40,849 --> 01:30:43,127
Tom could tell
an interesting story as to

2221
01:30:43,507 --> 01:30:45,301
what decision he made,

2222
01:30:45,336 --> 01:30:47,614
that he didn't realize was
gonna turn into something,

2223
01:30:47,649 --> 01:30:50,790
where he's working
with Alan Ormsby.

2224
01:30:50,997 --> 01:30:53,344
And that leads to
all these other things.

2225
01:30:53,378 --> 01:30:54,000
Sure.

2226
01:30:54,552 --> 01:30:56,485
[Brenda OC] Besides your work
on Dawn of the Dead,

2227
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,350
did you ever collaborate
in other Romero films?

2228
01:30:59,557 --> 01:31:02,767
We were on the sets of other
movies. I know with Knightriders

2229
01:31:02,802 --> 01:31:04,217
I wasn't in Knightriders,

2230
01:31:04,251 --> 01:31:07,116
but I did some of the
props for Knightriders.

2231
01:31:07,151 --> 01:31:09,325
You know there was the
magazine they were reading.

2232
01:31:10,706 --> 01:31:12,363
Now, see, I didn't
know about this.

2233
01:31:13,053 --> 01:31:15,021
The article about them,
you know, I had

2234
01:31:16,678 --> 01:31:18,231
done that prop, you know.

2235
01:31:18,265 --> 01:31:22,028
With Dawn of the Dead you know.
We were both in Dawn of the Dead

2236
01:31:22,062 --> 01:31:25,169
Jeanie did my makeup,
in Dawn of the Dead.

2237
01:31:25,203 --> 01:31:26,308
Scope Zombie.

2238
01:31:26,342 --> 01:31:28,483
Yeah, actually I played
two zombies, so.

2239
01:31:28,517 --> 01:31:29,311
You did.

2240
01:31:29,345 --> 01:31:31,347
And you did
the other makeup, too,

2241
01:31:31,727 --> 01:31:33,833
where I had my sort of
like an eye gouged out.

2242
01:31:33,867 --> 01:31:36,732
And was, uh, that scene...
I was a different zombie,

2243
01:31:36,767 --> 01:31:39,045
and we were going down
on one of the bikers

2244
01:31:39,079 --> 01:31:40,529
outside as they were,

2245
01:31:40,943 --> 01:31:42,635
you know we
knocked off the bike, so...

2246
01:31:42,669 --> 01:31:43,670
[zombies moaning]

2247
01:31:43,705 --> 01:31:45,016
[machine gun fire]

2248
01:31:46,535 --> 01:31:49,193
That was one scene,
and the other one was the

2249
01:31:49,745 --> 01:31:51,471
now affectionally called
the Scope Zombie,

2250
01:31:51,506 --> 01:31:53,266
where we were,
I have a head blast.

2251
01:31:53,300 --> 01:31:56,580
So, uh, yeah, and then
and I worked with

2252
01:31:56,614 --> 01:31:59,237
some different things behind
the scenes of that movie too.

2253
01:31:59,686 --> 01:32:01,999
So we've known each other
over 45 years.

2254
01:32:02,033 --> 01:32:02,447
Yeah.

2255
01:32:03,448 --> 01:32:04,449
And we're still friends.

2256
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,660
[laughter] I was gonna say.
And we still stay friends.

2257
01:32:08,695 --> 01:32:09,524
Yeah.

2258
01:32:12,803 --> 01:32:16,289
There aren't other movies
out there besides George's

2259
01:32:16,323 --> 01:32:19,464
who celebrate essentially
what are extras in a film.

2260
01:32:19,982 --> 01:32:23,261
But the zombies in
George's film are the extras

2261
01:32:23,296 --> 01:32:25,022
and people want to
meet all of them!

2262
01:32:25,056 --> 01:32:27,887
They, yep all of them.
And-and I do too!

2263
01:32:27,921 --> 01:32:30,579
Things that are connected to
that initial decision,

2264
01:32:30,614 --> 01:32:31,718
and then simple decision...

2265
01:32:31,753 --> 01:32:32,132
Yep.

2266
01:32:32,616 --> 01:32:34,031
That's my favorite thing
about life.

2267
01:32:34,065 --> 01:32:38,069
I always look at choice,
your decision to choose

2268
01:32:38,104 --> 01:32:39,450
as almost an absolute.

2269
01:32:39,830 --> 01:32:42,004
The decisions that we made

2270
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:44,524
that were just random decisions,

2271
01:32:44,559 --> 01:32:46,975
puts us in the chair
across from each other,

2272
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:51,427
sharing in this amazing
group of people that

2273
01:32:52,152 --> 01:32:54,051
that we care about,
and care about us.

2274
01:32:54,430 --> 01:32:56,191
And the crazy thing is with me.

2275
01:32:56,536 --> 01:32:59,919
I know you are a zombie
in Day of the Dead.

2276
01:32:59,953 --> 01:33:01,921
I was not in George's films,

2277
01:33:01,955 --> 01:33:04,579
so I understand when
somebody wants your autograph.

2278
01:33:04,613 --> 01:33:07,029
Sometimes they want my
autograph, and I'm like...

2279
01:33:07,305 --> 01:33:10,377
I'm not worthy. They have items
signed by George Romero.

2280
01:33:10,412 --> 01:33:11,896
Yeah they come signing posters.

2281
01:33:12,172 --> 01:33:13,553
And they ask me to sign.

2282
01:33:13,588 --> 01:33:14,968
Yeah, what the heck.

2283
01:33:15,003 --> 01:33:18,489
No, I don't belong on there
and they insist,

2284
01:33:18,523 --> 01:33:20,249
and then I finally oblige

2285
01:33:20,284 --> 01:33:22,148
because I don't want
to disappoint them.

2286
01:33:22,182 --> 01:33:23,390
But I'm like...
I don't belong on there.

2287
01:33:23,425 --> 01:33:26,117
But sort of I get it also

2288
01:33:26,152 --> 01:33:28,810
because I give them
a sort of, uh, enjoyment,

2289
01:33:29,155 --> 01:33:31,813
uh, coming back to the Mall and
explaining everything about

2290
01:33:31,847 --> 01:33:33,884
Dawn of the Dead that...
Everything that happened

2291
01:33:33,918 --> 01:33:37,266
in the Mall and they-they have
that in their minds and

2292
01:33:37,301 --> 01:33:39,855
it really helps them imagine
being back there at the time,

2293
01:33:39,890 --> 01:33:42,202
even though the Mall has changed
so much over the years.

2294
01:33:42,237 --> 01:33:44,273
Well and also you know everybody
Larry: Yes.

2295
01:33:44,308 --> 01:33:48,346
You knew...
I met George 38 years ago,

2296
01:33:48,726 --> 01:33:50,625
but that was the
last time I saw George.

2297
01:33:50,970 --> 01:33:53,697
Uh, we didn't really have
and inter-interaction.

2298
01:33:53,731 --> 01:33:55,491
But you saw George...

2299
01:33:56,182 --> 01:33:57,977
I met him many times
at conventions.

2300
01:33:58,011 --> 01:33:58,909
Mike: Yeah, many times.

2301
01:33:58,943 --> 01:34:00,704
And as one of the best
interactions was,

2302
01:34:00,738 --> 01:34:01,946
besides the first time...

2303
01:34:01,981 --> 01:34:03,810
Larry: The first time it just
showed me what a

2304
01:34:03,845 --> 01:34:05,536
normal ordinary guy he was.

2305
01:34:05,847 --> 01:34:07,365
Larry: I waited 3 hours
to meet him.

2306
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,229
I get up there, sit
next to him and I said:

2307
01:34:09,505 --> 01:34:11,197
How does it feel
to be so beloved?

2308
01:34:11,576 --> 01:34:13,717
And he says:
"I can't fuckin believe it!"

2309
01:34:14,027 --> 01:34:17,203
So when you got to-to meet
George seems like you had...

2310
01:34:17,237 --> 01:34:18,204
You made a connection
with him.

2311
01:34:18,756 --> 01:34:20,793
I walked up to him.
His face lit up.

2312
01:34:20,827 --> 01:34:21,794
He grabbed my hand.

2313
01:34:21,828 --> 01:34:23,416
Looked me in the eye
the whole time.

2314
01:34:23,968 --> 01:34:25,383
And then got a photo together.

2315
01:34:25,418 --> 01:34:28,145
He gave me a hug, and it
just felt so special.

2316
01:34:28,559 --> 01:34:30,319
I'm so happy that,

2317
01:34:31,217 --> 01:34:32,839
whatever decisions I made,

2318
01:34:32,874 --> 01:34:35,946
not knowing where-where
it was gonna lead, uh,

2319
01:34:36,947 --> 01:34:40,398
helped introduce me to
this amazing world

2320
01:34:40,433 --> 01:34:42,607
of Romero fans and films.

2321
01:34:44,679 --> 01:34:47,889
♪ spooky music ♪

2322
01:34:51,202 --> 01:34:55,241
♪ creepy metal music ♪

2323
01:35:12,051 --> 01:35:13,569
You Okay bud?

2324
01:35:18,885 --> 01:35:19,852
Look what you did!

2325
01:35:22,268 --> 01:35:23,925
What do you mean?
What did you do?

2326
01:35:24,442 --> 01:35:26,479
Put glow in the dark makeup
in your kit!

2327
01:35:26,824 --> 01:35:27,825
He what?

2328
01:35:28,412 --> 01:35:29,827
I'm sorry.
This is all my idea.

2329
01:35:30,586 --> 01:35:32,381
We think there was something
wrong with the makeup.

2330
01:35:33,417 --> 01:35:34,418
Ya think?

2331
01:35:36,489 --> 01:35:38,422
♪creepy metal music intensifies♪

2332
01:35:38,836 --> 01:35:40,493
[playing "They Crawl"]
by 13 Occult

2333
01:35:41,149 --> 01:35:42,115
Get out of my way!

2334
01:35:47,258 --> 01:35:49,122
Sean! Sean!

2335
01:35:51,435 --> 01:35:52,436
SEAN!

2336
01:35:58,166 --> 01:36:00,996
No! [Samantha screaming]

2337
01:36:09,211 --> 01:36:10,592
What the hell, Sean?

2338
01:36:12,111 --> 01:36:15,942
[Nate screaming]

2339
01:36:17,772 --> 01:36:21,120
[Nate screaming]

2340
01:36:21,983 --> 01:36:23,294
[Avery screams OC]

2341
01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:25,849
No!

2342
01:36:26,297 --> 01:36:29,128
[Jeanie OC] Hey! Stop!

2343
01:36:35,306 --> 01:36:37,861
Pick on somebody your own size!

2344
01:36:38,689 --> 01:36:42,658
[zombie Sean growling]

2345
01:36:53,221 --> 01:36:53,946
[Jesse OC] Larry?

2346
01:36:54,981 --> 01:36:55,602
[static]

2347
01:36:55,637 --> 01:36:56,811
[Jesse OC] Larry?

2348
01:36:57,708 --> 01:36:59,020
Mike: You don't look that great.

2349
01:36:59,986 --> 01:37:01,470
You feel okay?

2350
01:37:01,505 --> 01:37:04,888
Uh, no uh, my-my heads
really starting to hurt.

2351
01:37:05,164 --> 01:37:07,131
I don't...
I gotta get out of here.

2352
01:37:09,996 --> 01:37:10,963
Jesse: Larry?

2353
01:37:12,171 --> 01:37:13,724
Hey Larry, you okay?

2354
01:37:23,838 --> 01:37:24,839
[metal chair clanks]

2355
01:37:31,915 --> 01:37:38,266
♪ spooky pipe organ music ♪

2356
01:37:53,384 --> 01:38:05,396
[Zombie Larry growls]

2357
01:38:05,776 --> 01:38:11,886
♪ "They Crawl" ♪
by 13 Occult continues

2358
01:38:56,309 --> 01:38:57,172
[Jeanie OC] Hey!

2359
01:38:59,243 --> 01:39:00,520
Pick on someone your own size!

2360
01:39:01,383 --> 01:39:02,764
Yeah, well that leaves me out!

2361
01:39:03,282 --> 01:39:04,248
[crew laughing]

2362
01:39:04,490 --> 01:39:05,663
[Sean growling OC]

2363
01:39:05,698 --> 01:39:07,286
[Mike OC laughing] Cut!