1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.LT 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.LT 3 00:00:08,567 --> 00:00:14,000 (AMBIENT NATURE SOUNDS, RHYTHMIC TAPPING) 4 00:01:06,501 --> 00:01:08,418 MAN: I'll tell you a little secret 5 00:01:08,501 --> 00:01:10,351 that's only known to about two people. 6 00:01:10,434 --> 00:01:14,484 (LAUGHS) And they're both in this room. 7 00:01:14,567 --> 00:01:17,151 And I swear it's true. 8 00:01:17,234 --> 00:01:18,950 (STRING INSTRUMENTS TUNE) 9 00:01:19,033 --> 00:01:22,885 I must have been singing Mis'ry in me head. 10 00:01:22,968 --> 00:01:26,033 I don't think I was listening to it. 11 00:01:26,934 --> 00:01:30,217 And I'm thinking, "Gee, that's short isn't it?" 12 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:32,917 I'm thinking, "Yeah, isn't it?" 13 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:33,984 And I thought, 14 00:01:34,067 --> 00:01:39,000 "Perhaps I should add a couple of verses to it." 15 00:01:39,901 --> 00:01:43,584 And I felt this... on the shoulder. 16 00:01:43,667 --> 00:01:46,084 And I thought, 17 00:01:46,167 --> 00:01:47,851 "What's that?" 18 00:01:47,934 --> 00:01:52,000 Nobody there. You know? 19 00:01:52,701 --> 00:01:58,467 And this voice said, "Write a new song." 20 00:01:58,901 --> 00:02:03,618 And I thought, "Somebody's told me that, and I heard it." 21 00:02:03,701 --> 00:02:08,050 And I believe that. I believe that completely. 22 00:02:08,133 --> 00:02:10,184 And I don't know who it was, 23 00:02:10,267 --> 00:02:12,351 whether it was Banjo Paterson or who it was, 24 00:02:12,434 --> 00:02:13,351 but it was somebody. 25 00:02:13,434 --> 00:02:15,017 That was the first time I've had it 26 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:17,451 and that's only two years ago, I suppose, 27 00:02:17,534 --> 00:02:19,651 but I've had three or four now. 28 00:02:19,734 --> 00:02:22,351 I've got a little series of songs 29 00:02:22,434 --> 00:02:25,384 that I'm writing, bit by bit, 30 00:02:25,467 --> 00:02:27,217 and they're all done the same way - 31 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:28,984 nudge, nudge, nudge, nudge. 32 00:02:29,067 --> 00:02:33,317 Now, don't tell anybody your father's nuts but... 33 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,984 MAN 2: I would never say that. 34 00:02:35,067 --> 00:02:38,734 (STRING INSTRUMENT PLAYS HAUNTING MELODY) 35 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,684 My secondary school was over here. 36 00:03:33,767 --> 00:03:37,251 And this was the kind of gauntlet I'd run, 37 00:03:37,334 --> 00:03:39,184 carrying a violin, once a week, 38 00:03:39,267 --> 00:03:41,017 which was, like, you know, 39 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:43,684 taking your life in your own hands. 40 00:03:43,767 --> 00:03:45,351 Uh, carrying a violin was 41 00:03:45,434 --> 00:03:49,950 tantamount to saying that you were a certain kind of person. 42 00:03:50,033 --> 00:03:51,751 So I'd get chased, and stuff, 43 00:03:51,834 --> 00:03:53,484 and... often get away, 44 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:56,984 and often get kicked off my bike and stuff like that. 45 00:03:57,067 --> 00:04:00,284 But I would always come back and stop in here, 46 00:04:00,367 --> 00:04:02,317 in this rotunda over here. 47 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,384 There was this beautiful statue - Flight From Pompeii. 48 00:04:06,467 --> 00:04:10,200 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 49 00:04:33,834 --> 00:04:37,251 I think that Pompeii's story, it was like the Titanic. 50 00:04:37,334 --> 00:04:43,518 It was those big, impactful, dramatic and terrifying events 51 00:04:43,601 --> 00:04:46,718 that, when I thought about fear 52 00:04:46,801 --> 00:04:49,217 and, you know, destruction, 53 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:51,901 they were my references. 54 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,418 And the hand, the woman's hand over the baby's face 55 00:05:03,501 --> 00:05:06,151 kind of active, trying to protect, 56 00:05:06,234 --> 00:05:09,084 doing whatever you could, in the situation. 57 00:05:09,167 --> 00:05:10,785 Trying to do your best. 58 00:05:10,868 --> 00:05:14,567 There's something religious about it as well. 59 00:05:17,834 --> 00:05:19,651 The story of the exploding volcano 60 00:05:19,734 --> 00:05:22,551 and the catastrophe that ensued after that, 61 00:05:22,634 --> 00:05:25,317 you know, I was fascinated by the images 62 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,551 of the bodies that were preserved in the ash 63 00:05:27,634 --> 00:05:29,251 and things like that, you know? 64 00:05:29,334 --> 00:05:31,518 And the implements, and... 65 00:05:31,601 --> 00:05:34,151 You know, I'd only ever seen photos of it. 66 00:05:34,234 --> 00:05:36,584 And I think in my head, it was just, you know, 67 00:05:36,667 --> 00:05:41,601 this, sort of... just cataclysmic event. 68 00:05:42,868 --> 00:05:44,351 I loved those books as a kid 69 00:05:44,434 --> 00:05:47,284 and used to keep them in a box under my bed. 70 00:05:47,367 --> 00:05:49,934 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 71 00:06:43,501 --> 00:06:47,885 You know, from about 14 through to, you know, 17, 72 00:06:47,968 --> 00:06:51,184 at school, in those last four years, 73 00:06:51,267 --> 00:06:55,434 I would just regularly come in here and sit. 74 00:07:17,501 --> 00:07:19,618 I had a lot of turmoil going on. 75 00:07:19,701 --> 00:07:21,851 I wasn't particularly fond of myself, you know? 76 00:07:21,934 --> 00:07:23,217 I had low self-esteem. 77 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:25,651 I guess teenage stuff, you know? 78 00:07:25,734 --> 00:07:28,334 (MUSIC ENDS) 79 00:07:36,868 --> 00:07:37,950 (FAINT COUGH) 80 00:07:38,033 --> 00:07:43,885 (ELECTRONIC NOTES BEEP SLOWLY) 81 00:07:43,968 --> 00:07:44,618 OK, let's try that. 82 00:07:44,701 --> 00:07:47,284 MAN: Is one of those the one that fell out of the car? 83 00:07:47,367 --> 00:07:48,751 - Yeah, that's that one. - Right. 84 00:07:48,834 --> 00:07:52,934 - How's it travelling now? - Uhh... 85 00:07:53,334 --> 00:07:56,467 Seems to be alright. (LAUGHS) 86 00:07:57,534 --> 00:07:59,601 It's, um... 87 00:08:00,467 --> 00:08:01,317 ...s... 88 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,917 It's not quite like what it was, but who is? 89 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,968 (LAUGHS) 90 00:09:38,868 --> 00:09:40,968 WARREN: Fuck, this is gonna be good. 91 00:10:04,801 --> 00:10:06,017 OK. 92 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:10,767 (PLAYS SLOW, EERIE NOTES) 93 00:10:21,901 --> 00:10:26,684 WOMAN: So we received a report about a baby siamang gibbon. 94 00:10:26,767 --> 00:10:28,684 The poachers catch them 95 00:10:28,767 --> 00:10:30,984 to fulfil the illegal pet trade, 96 00:10:31,067 --> 00:10:31,984 when they are babies. 97 00:10:32,067 --> 00:10:34,418 And to do so, they would have to kill the mother, 98 00:10:34,501 --> 00:10:39,734 which, usually, they do with guns, with air rifles. 99 00:10:41,501 --> 00:10:44,818 These are really critically endangered animals. 100 00:10:44,901 --> 00:10:48,084 It's horrific. It's so cruel. 101 00:10:48,167 --> 00:10:50,751 It's just unbelievable, you know? 102 00:10:50,834 --> 00:10:52,950 These people are still doing it. 103 00:10:53,033 --> 00:10:55,033 It's so criminal. 104 00:10:55,968 --> 00:10:57,017 It's so sad. 105 00:10:57,100 --> 00:10:59,017 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 106 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:01,984 You'll see, when she comes in. 107 00:11:02,067 --> 00:11:03,484 They are... 108 00:11:03,567 --> 00:11:05,184 You see that she's frightened, 109 00:11:05,267 --> 00:11:09,167 and clearly she still needs her mother. 110 00:11:10,067 --> 00:11:11,751 Um... Yeah. 111 00:11:11,834 --> 00:11:14,184 And the mother is dead, for sure. 112 00:11:14,267 --> 00:11:17,968 (STRINGS JOIN PIANO) 113 00:11:22,734 --> 00:11:27,518 The transport of such a fragile, small baby 114 00:11:27,601 --> 00:11:30,067 is always stressful. 115 00:11:38,934 --> 00:11:42,184 They'll kill the mum. The mum won't let go. 116 00:11:42,267 --> 00:11:44,618 The baby won't let go of the mum, 117 00:11:44,701 --> 00:11:48,117 and, often, the mum will fall dead. 118 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,651 And that's the most horrific part, 119 00:11:49,734 --> 00:11:53,584 where the baby is trying to hold on to a dead mum. 120 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:57,267 And then they'll rip the baby off the mum. 121 00:12:05,767 --> 00:12:08,251 Normally, this baby would still be with her mother 122 00:12:08,334 --> 00:12:09,950 for at least another four years, 123 00:12:10,033 --> 00:12:13,017 and learning the skills of the forest, 124 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:14,117 and having her warmth, 125 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,217 and the needs that every baby or infant has. 126 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:20,785 And now she's been alone, 127 00:12:20,868 --> 00:12:22,785 she's been caged, she's frightened, 128 00:12:22,868 --> 00:12:26,601 so she's going to need a lot of attention. 129 00:13:38,801 --> 00:13:41,917 (CAR INDICATOR TICKS) 130 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,551 WARREN: Where are we heading? 131 00:13:43,634 --> 00:13:46,885 This was like the kind of hostile territory for me. 132 00:13:46,968 --> 00:13:49,751 Oh, hang on, I'll put my GPS on, and we'll see 133 00:13:49,834 --> 00:13:53,217 where the fuck we're going. (LAUGHS) 134 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:59,184 It's a worry when your iPhone can't recognise your own face. 135 00:13:59,267 --> 00:14:00,084 Um... 136 00:14:00,167 --> 00:14:03,284 I went through customs the other day, 137 00:14:03,367 --> 00:14:04,718 and it took my photo, 138 00:14:04,801 --> 00:14:07,684 and it just said, "Please remove your veil." 139 00:14:07,767 --> 00:14:10,200 (BOTH LAUGH) 140 00:14:10,834 --> 00:14:12,050 Weirdly, I have this feeling of, 141 00:14:12,133 --> 00:14:14,284 no matter what I've done in my life - 142 00:14:14,367 --> 00:14:19,117 you know, I've played in bands, and toured the world, 143 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,017 and played, you know, lots of amazing places, 144 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:24,117 and festivals, and all that - 145 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,184 when I come back here, 146 00:14:25,267 --> 00:14:27,251 I just feel like that small kid again. 147 00:14:27,334 --> 00:14:29,251 I guess it taps into all these things 148 00:14:29,334 --> 00:14:31,251 that have defined me, 149 00:14:31,334 --> 00:14:33,284 and I didn't even realise. 150 00:14:33,367 --> 00:14:34,984 (LOUD KNOCKING) 151 00:14:35,067 --> 00:14:37,684 - Hey, Dad! - G'day. How are you? 152 00:14:37,767 --> 00:14:39,434 How are you? 153 00:14:40,167 --> 00:14:41,950 You alright? 154 00:14:42,033 --> 00:14:42,851 Should we go in? 155 00:14:42,934 --> 00:14:45,950 We're just gonna... Oh, thanks. 156 00:14:46,033 --> 00:14:46,950 Come in. 157 00:14:47,033 --> 00:14:49,785 - G'day, Mum. - Hello! How are you? 158 00:14:49,868 --> 00:14:52,284 I'm alright. I'm good. How are you? 159 00:14:52,367 --> 00:14:54,184 - We're doing a... - You've grown! 160 00:14:54,267 --> 00:14:56,151 Yeah. I have grown. (LAUGHS) 161 00:14:56,234 --> 00:14:58,317 - No, you look good. - Thank you. 162 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,184 - MAN: Hi. - How are you? 163 00:14:59,267 --> 00:15:02,284 - Good, thanks. - WARREN: Germain and Justin. 164 00:15:02,367 --> 00:15:04,084 This is my mum. Diane. 165 00:15:04,167 --> 00:15:06,451 - DIANE: How are you? - GERMAIN: I'm good, thank you. 166 00:15:06,534 --> 00:15:08,284 How are you? Lovely to meet you. 167 00:15:08,367 --> 00:15:09,950 Good to see you. Happy New Year. 168 00:15:10,033 --> 00:15:14,184 - Happy New Year to you, too. - You know we love you. 169 00:15:14,267 --> 00:15:15,084 JUSTIN: Thank you. 170 00:15:15,167 --> 00:15:17,751 WARREN: I actually bought this to give you both. 171 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:21,084 This is one of the copies of the gum. 172 00:15:21,167 --> 00:15:23,950 And I was gonna send it to you, but COVID happened, 173 00:15:24,033 --> 00:15:25,818 and it got, you know, 174 00:15:25,901 --> 00:15:27,284 all got confusing and stuff. 175 00:15:27,367 --> 00:15:29,151 Go on, you're only saying that. 176 00:15:29,234 --> 00:15:31,067 (LAUGHS) 177 00:15:31,567 --> 00:15:32,418 We're going around, 178 00:15:32,501 --> 00:15:36,017 we're putting a piece of gum at the park, 179 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:39,017 you know, the animal park in Sumatra. 180 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:42,017 Yeah, so we're sort of going around and filming 181 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:45,184 a bit of the story about it, you know? 182 00:15:45,267 --> 00:15:48,217 This is the sculpture, Dad. 183 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:49,418 I tell you what, if that was fair dinkum, 184 00:15:49,501 --> 00:15:51,251 that was a big mouthful of gum, wasn't it? 185 00:15:51,334 --> 00:15:55,000 WARREN: (LAUGHS) Yeah. It's actually that big. 186 00:15:55,467 --> 00:15:56,917 That's the real size. 187 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,917 - Oh, is it? - Yeah. 188 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,518 That's how big it is. 189 00:16:01,601 --> 00:16:02,751 DIANE: They're OK. 190 00:16:02,834 --> 00:16:05,050 But that's the... that's, um... 191 00:16:05,133 --> 00:16:09,284 That's been blown up, like, off a 3D photo. 192 00:16:09,367 --> 00:16:10,484 DIANE: He's grown up a bit. 193 00:16:10,567 --> 00:16:13,484 He'll keep talking till the cows come home. 194 00:16:13,567 --> 00:16:15,117 MAN: That's what Warren's wearing, 195 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,117 he's wearing a microphone. 196 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,284 WARREN: I've got a little one here. 197 00:16:18,367 --> 00:16:22,151 DAD: I bought my first guitar when I was 15. 198 00:16:22,234 --> 00:16:24,217 I got it from Russell's Music Shop 199 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:25,950 in Russell Street, Melbourne. 200 00:16:26,033 --> 00:16:26,851 They were made of 3-ply 201 00:16:26,934 --> 00:16:28,917 and had covered wagons stencilled on them. 202 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,017 I think they were about £12, new. 203 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:33,050 That's a nice cup of tea, Warren. 204 00:16:33,133 --> 00:16:34,451 Thanks. 205 00:16:34,534 --> 00:16:35,518 I... Thank you. 206 00:16:35,601 --> 00:16:39,217 - Green tea. - Green tea. (LAUGHS) 207 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:40,284 Thank you, yeah. 208 00:16:40,367 --> 00:16:42,317 Well, I put a lot of love in it, but... 209 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,351 - Yeah, you can taste it. - But I just... 210 00:16:44,434 --> 00:16:47,317 - That's love, is it? - I just... (LAUGHS) 211 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,851 - That's what it tastes like. - Mmm. 212 00:16:49,934 --> 00:16:53,467 - Finally! (LAUGHS) - Finally. 213 00:16:53,968 --> 00:16:55,851 Do you remember that? 214 00:16:55,934 --> 00:16:56,851 Do you remember that, 215 00:16:56,934 --> 00:16:59,451 when we saw the clowns in the back garden? 216 00:16:59,534 --> 00:17:03,050 I don't remember it fully or clearly. 217 00:17:03,133 --> 00:17:05,151 - WARREN: Yeah. - DAD: I'm not saying that it didn't happen. 218 00:17:05,234 --> 00:17:06,418 WARREN: No. Exactly. (LAUGHS) 219 00:17:06,501 --> 00:17:09,851 I wouldn't accuse anybody of, you know, 220 00:17:09,934 --> 00:17:16,251 vivid, amazing, unbelievable visions. 221 00:17:16,334 --> 00:17:16,917 No. 222 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,917 But then it could have been so. 223 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,384 - Yeah. - I mean, God bless. 224 00:17:21,467 --> 00:17:23,217 I hope it was true. 225 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:27,400 'Cause you've got to have vivid imagination. 226 00:17:28,334 --> 00:17:32,367 My bed used to be here. (LAUGHS) 227 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,317 My brother was laughing here, 228 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,934 and this window was just illuminating with light. 229 00:17:51,234 --> 00:17:53,284 And I guess that's the clothesline 230 00:17:53,367 --> 00:17:54,151 my dad was talking about. 231 00:17:54,234 --> 00:17:56,451 Yeah, it was all here. There used to be more trees. 232 00:17:56,534 --> 00:17:58,017 And he was laughing, and he woke me up, 233 00:17:58,100 --> 00:18:00,518 and he's like, "Come and have a look." 234 00:18:00,601 --> 00:18:03,317 And he sort of pulled the corner aside, 235 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,317 and outside was just this caravan car 236 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,117 with a whole bunch of clowns 237 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,050 making hamburgers and climbing the trees 238 00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:13,584 and throwing them at each other. 239 00:18:13,667 --> 00:18:17,084 And we just sat and laughed and that. 240 00:18:17,167 --> 00:18:19,050 And it was really amazing. 241 00:18:19,133 --> 00:18:21,317 The sky was totally white, 242 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,534 and all lit up. 243 00:18:27,567 --> 00:18:28,618 I think we woke our father 244 00:18:28,701 --> 00:18:29,751 'cause we were laughing so much. 245 00:18:29,834 --> 00:18:32,384 And I said, "Look, there's clowns in the back garden." 246 00:18:32,467 --> 00:18:33,317 And I remember he said, 247 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,317 "They'll be gone in the morning, 248 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,050 "and if they aren't, your mother will scare them away 249 00:18:37,133 --> 00:18:40,534 "when she hangs the washing out in the morning." 250 00:18:41,434 --> 00:18:45,084 When I asked my brother, 45 years later, 251 00:18:45,167 --> 00:18:46,484 does he remember them, 252 00:18:46,567 --> 00:18:48,050 and he totally remembers them. 253 00:18:48,133 --> 00:18:54,133 So, for me, it was and will always be real. 254 00:18:56,334 --> 00:18:57,351 I find, the older I get, 255 00:18:57,434 --> 00:19:00,567 the more imagination I've got, anyway. 256 00:19:00,701 --> 00:19:03,584 Not much in them, but there's still imagination. 257 00:19:03,667 --> 00:19:06,351 WARREN: But you're still writing songs, right? 258 00:19:06,434 --> 00:19:07,284 - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. 259 00:19:07,367 --> 00:19:10,418 I'm writing more songs than I've ever written. 260 00:19:10,501 --> 00:19:13,251 I can sit down, I can write a song. 261 00:19:13,334 --> 00:19:15,117 I'm not saying they're good songs, 262 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,551 but it's the thrill of chasing words. 263 00:19:17,634 --> 00:19:18,084 Mm-hm. 264 00:19:18,167 --> 00:19:21,117 When I was very young, my father would sit around 265 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,317 playing country and western songs he'd written 266 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,751 on his guitar. 267 00:19:25,834 --> 00:19:27,618 And... 268 00:19:27,701 --> 00:19:28,518 I remember, you know, 269 00:19:28,601 --> 00:19:30,151 he had a box of songs that he'd written. 270 00:19:30,234 --> 00:19:32,718 They were up in the cupboard in the hallway. 271 00:19:32,801 --> 00:19:34,317 And inside were photos of him 272 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,384 and his autograph that he'd practiced for when he made it. 273 00:19:37,467 --> 00:19:39,618 That's where his songs used to be. Here's his records. 274 00:19:39,701 --> 00:19:41,950 There was a record in there that he'd made. 275 00:19:42,033 --> 00:19:45,451 And, in my head, like, my dad must have been 276 00:19:45,534 --> 00:19:48,351 sort of some superstar or something, you know? 277 00:19:48,434 --> 00:19:49,984 But I didn't understand that 278 00:19:50,067 --> 00:19:52,050 he'd sort of put his dreams in a box 279 00:19:52,133 --> 00:19:53,151 and stuck them in a cupboard 280 00:19:53,234 --> 00:19:55,050 and put them away and had a family. 281 00:19:55,133 --> 00:19:56,384 I didn't understand that. 282 00:19:56,467 --> 00:19:58,518 Look. Johnny Ellis. 283 00:19:58,601 --> 00:19:59,984 Reg Lindsay. 284 00:20:00,067 --> 00:20:02,418 I always thought my other two brothers 285 00:20:02,501 --> 00:20:06,317 were way more creative than I was. 286 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,584 My parents bought me a violin. 287 00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:10,317 My brother had a clarinet, and he went to the guitar, 288 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,184 and there was always a guitar lying around the house. 289 00:20:13,267 --> 00:20:14,284 And I just thought that 290 00:20:14,367 --> 00:20:16,950 every household did this sort of thing, you know? 291 00:20:17,033 --> 00:20:20,251 Amazing, isn't it? They still let me play the bloody thing. 292 00:20:20,334 --> 00:20:21,251 - Yeah. - DIANE: Eh? 293 00:20:21,334 --> 00:20:22,518 They still let me play it. 294 00:20:22,601 --> 00:20:26,084 I realise now what a gift it was, actually, 295 00:20:26,167 --> 00:20:28,050 to avail us to that, you know? 296 00:20:28,133 --> 00:20:31,484 Because it was definitely beyond their means as well. 297 00:20:31,567 --> 00:20:33,484 - You right? - Yeah, it's alright. 298 00:20:33,567 --> 00:20:35,950 - It's OK, Mum. - Got the right tune? 299 00:20:36,033 --> 00:20:37,584 (BOTH LAUGH) 300 00:20:37,667 --> 00:20:40,868 I never found the right tune. 301 00:20:47,734 --> 00:20:51,200 Oh, it's lovely. Thanks. 302 00:20:53,234 --> 00:20:55,534 You just give me the nod. 303 00:21:01,767 --> 00:21:04,684 Are you going to play it then, or...? 304 00:21:04,767 --> 00:21:05,251 Well... 305 00:21:05,334 --> 00:21:07,684 That's when you're going to do it, when I do that? 306 00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:11,684 Well, you... No. I reckon, if you play a verse, 307 00:21:11,767 --> 00:21:12,684 and then, you know... 308 00:21:12,767 --> 00:21:14,317 At the end of that verse, you'll...? 309 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,684 Yeah, and you just give me the signal. 310 00:21:16,767 --> 00:21:19,017 Yeah, so it'll be... 311 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,184 Since he started social arranging. 312 00:21:21,267 --> 00:21:22,484 - OK. - That'll please you. 313 00:21:22,567 --> 00:21:27,734 (PLAYS COUNTRY-STYLE MUSIC) ♪ Watching possums devour the flowers 314 00:21:28,501 --> 00:21:32,300 (VIOLIN JOINS) 315 00:21:50,934 --> 00:21:54,584 ♪ Well, today I got a letter from the great Outback 316 00:21:54,667 --> 00:21:59,451 ♪ She calls herself the Queen of the OodnadattaTrack 317 00:21:59,534 --> 00:22:02,451 (INDISTINCT) 318 00:22:02,534 --> 00:22:06,384 ♪ Hiking through the jungle with the bloody blue heeler 319 00:22:06,467 --> 00:22:10,217 ♪ He's watching for crocodiles and dingoes 320 00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:14,418 ♪ And every place she goes, he goes, oh 321 00:22:14,501 --> 00:22:17,818 ♪ Thought I'd write a book 'bout the life I've had 322 00:22:17,901 --> 00:22:22,267 ♪ The bloody blue heeler ate my bloody iPad 323 00:22:23,667 --> 00:22:26,151 ♪ I did a precautionary audio 324 00:22:26,234 --> 00:22:27,117 ♪ But what did I say? 325 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,885 ♪ Keep away from dogs and women and you'll be OK 326 00:22:30,968 --> 00:22:33,818 ♪ Mis'ry is my middle name 327 00:22:33,901 --> 00:22:39,567 ♪ And I got it from feelin' this pain... ♪ 328 00:22:40,601 --> 00:22:43,151 WARREN: You know, one day, I remember asking him 329 00:22:43,234 --> 00:22:43,885 how do you write a song, 330 00:22:43,968 --> 00:22:46,718 'cause he just seemed to sit around and play stuff 331 00:22:46,801 --> 00:22:47,785 all the time. 332 00:22:47,868 --> 00:22:49,117 He's like, it's really easy, you know? 333 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,851 And he just pulled out a poetry book, opened it up, 334 00:22:51,934 --> 00:22:54,651 started playing and singing the poem 335 00:22:54,734 --> 00:22:57,418 to the chords he was playing. 336 00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:59,684 And I didn't realise at the time, 337 00:22:59,767 --> 00:23:04,151 but he showed me the creative act 338 00:23:04,234 --> 00:23:08,284 in a really simple and human way 339 00:23:08,367 --> 00:23:10,885 that I think really impacted on me. 340 00:23:10,968 --> 00:23:14,551 He demystified the whole thing, just like that. 341 00:23:14,634 --> 00:23:17,950 And the fact also that he was always doing it 342 00:23:18,033 --> 00:23:20,317 seemed like a really natural thing. 343 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,000 And he loved music. He loves music. 344 00:23:25,033 --> 00:23:28,718 ♪ Yeah, Mis'ry is my middle name 345 00:23:28,801 --> 00:23:34,584 ♪ And that is my one claim to fame 346 00:23:34,667 --> 00:23:38,334 (SONG ENDS) 347 00:23:39,801 --> 00:23:44,300 - Makes him shiver. - Yeah. (LAUGHS) 348 00:23:44,968 --> 00:23:45,818 Fantastic, Dad. 349 00:23:45,901 --> 00:23:47,618 You gave me a lot of solos then. 350 00:23:47,701 --> 00:23:50,217 - You spoiled me then. - Yeah. 351 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:51,151 (BOTH LAUGH) 352 00:23:51,234 --> 00:23:52,618 He used to cut our hair, as kids, 353 00:23:52,701 --> 00:23:55,818 and if he put on music from the Greek islands, 354 00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:57,451 you knew you were in trouble 355 00:23:57,534 --> 00:24:00,384 because he used to cut in time with the music. 356 00:24:00,467 --> 00:24:02,451 So if you put Zorba The Greek on, 357 00:24:02,534 --> 00:24:05,984 you're kind of in trouble as it gets faster and faster. 358 00:24:06,067 --> 00:24:08,418 And he'd be just, like, snipping away 359 00:24:08,501 --> 00:24:09,418 and stuff like that. 360 00:24:09,501 --> 00:24:11,618 That is the first gig that I ever did, 361 00:24:11,701 --> 00:24:14,818 at the Ballarat Old-Time Dance Hall 362 00:24:14,901 --> 00:24:17,284 with my dad playing guitar. 363 00:24:17,367 --> 00:24:18,618 It was a trial by fire. 364 00:24:18,701 --> 00:24:23,718 Now, the guy who sold me my first violin, Eric Wilson, 365 00:24:23,801 --> 00:24:25,351 he tuned my violin up, 366 00:24:25,434 --> 00:24:27,284 and I couldn't even play in tune then. 367 00:24:27,367 --> 00:24:29,418 My dad sort of started playing, 368 00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:31,551 and we were playing, um... 369 00:24:31,634 --> 00:24:33,518 Orange Blossom Special, I think, 370 00:24:33,601 --> 00:24:34,751 and Sally Goodin, this tune that 371 00:24:34,834 --> 00:24:38,785 Hank Williams used to road-test his fiddle players with. 372 00:24:38,868 --> 00:24:42,651 If they could play that tune, they were in the band. 373 00:24:42,734 --> 00:24:44,251 And I started playing, 374 00:24:44,334 --> 00:24:47,418 and the violin was so out of tune, and I just stopped. 375 00:24:47,501 --> 00:24:50,618 And Dad looked at me, and I said, 376 00:24:50,701 --> 00:24:51,785 ''It's out of tune.'' 377 00:24:51,868 --> 00:24:53,751 And this was the first performance 378 00:24:53,834 --> 00:24:54,718 I'd ever done in my life. 379 00:24:54,801 --> 00:24:57,818 And he just looked at me and went, ''Play on.'' 380 00:24:57,901 --> 00:25:01,317 (LAUGHTER) 381 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,017 Words to live by. 382 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:06,634 (ORANGE BLOSSOM SPECIAL BY HANK WILLIAMS PLAYS) 383 00:25:42,534 --> 00:25:45,968 (ORANGE BLOSSOM SPECIAL CONTINUES) 384 00:26:15,667 --> 00:26:19,551 I came here in 2005 for the first time 385 00:26:19,634 --> 00:26:20,584 in Lampung area. 386 00:26:20,667 --> 00:26:22,518 And we were always bringing animals 387 00:26:22,601 --> 00:26:25,851 that were confiscated here to Jakarta, 388 00:26:25,934 --> 00:26:27,551 which is just wrong, you know? 389 00:26:27,634 --> 00:26:28,785 But there was no centre here, 390 00:26:28,868 --> 00:26:30,418 there was nowhere to bring them to. 391 00:26:30,501 --> 00:26:32,818 And it was always my dream to start something here. 392 00:26:32,901 --> 00:26:35,518 And in 2018, finally, slowly, 393 00:26:35,601 --> 00:26:36,651 we got some money together, 394 00:26:36,734 --> 00:26:39,885 and we managed to buy 7,000 square metres. 395 00:26:39,968 --> 00:26:42,584 And then, for a long time, nothing happened. 396 00:26:42,667 --> 00:26:43,484 Many people promise, 397 00:26:43,567 --> 00:26:45,117 and many people say they want to help, 398 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,818 but, in the end, they don't do shit, you know? 399 00:26:46,901 --> 00:26:49,818 They don't... Yeah, they just want to have the good feeling. 400 00:26:49,901 --> 00:26:53,418 But then Warren stepped in, you know? 401 00:26:53,501 --> 00:26:54,718 And then just... 402 00:26:54,801 --> 00:26:57,518 Yeah, the impossible became possible. 403 00:26:57,601 --> 00:27:03,551 Within about 30 seconds of meeting her, 404 00:27:03,634 --> 00:27:07,418 I was just struck by how real she was. 405 00:27:07,501 --> 00:27:08,851 And I said, "Well, what do you need?" 406 00:27:08,934 --> 00:27:11,484 And she said, "Look, we have all these animals 407 00:27:11,567 --> 00:27:12,917 "that can't be released. 408 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,885 "I need a place where these animals 409 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,851 "that are so badly abused 410 00:27:17,934 --> 00:27:19,751 "can die with dignity. 411 00:27:19,834 --> 00:27:23,917 "We need a forever home for these animals." 412 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,618 And then I learnt more about Femke - 413 00:27:25,701 --> 00:27:26,451 she'd been living there in 414 00:27:26,534 --> 00:27:30,184 one of the most kind of brutal places for animal trafficking 415 00:27:30,267 --> 00:27:31,885 for 15 years, 416 00:27:31,968 --> 00:27:34,184 and the work that she was doing. 417 00:27:34,267 --> 00:27:35,984 So I called Femke and said, 418 00:27:36,067 --> 00:27:39,701 "Look, you know, I promise I'll do this." 419 00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:42,551 And all she said was, "Thank you," 420 00:27:42,634 --> 00:27:44,885 and this big tear ran down her face. 421 00:27:44,968 --> 00:27:46,117 After I explained everything, 422 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,484 and after that first talk, there was this really... 423 00:27:49,567 --> 00:27:51,017 It was as if it was sort of logical 424 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,551 to just move forward really quickly 425 00:27:53,634 --> 00:27:56,234 because his response was so... 426 00:27:57,033 --> 00:27:58,667 Um... 427 00:27:58,901 --> 00:28:00,885 Yeah, so special, you know? 428 00:28:00,968 --> 00:28:02,151 Like, so appreciating of 429 00:28:02,234 --> 00:28:03,751 everything that we're doing here, 430 00:28:03,834 --> 00:28:07,184 and I had a really good feeling, really amazing. 431 00:28:07,267 --> 00:28:10,917 WARREN: I could see very quickly - like, instantly - 432 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,050 that these people were so honest 433 00:28:14,133 --> 00:28:16,151 and were so hardworking 434 00:28:16,234 --> 00:28:19,618 and just so devoted to what they were doing, 435 00:28:19,701 --> 00:28:21,684 and it absolutely blew me away. 436 00:28:21,767 --> 00:28:24,334 And that they just get on with it. 437 00:28:25,067 --> 00:28:27,217 I mean, I really can't wait to meet them. 438 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,851 MAN: Have you been in a cage with primates before? 439 00:28:30,934 --> 00:28:33,151 No, I haven't, no. 440 00:28:33,234 --> 00:28:35,367 No, I haven't. 441 00:28:37,234 --> 00:28:38,151 (LAUGHS) 442 00:28:38,234 --> 00:28:40,684 You'll hold my hand? (LAUGHS) 443 00:28:40,767 --> 00:28:44,367 (PLAYS SOMBRE MUSIC) 444 00:28:58,901 --> 00:29:01,868 (INAUDIBLE) 445 00:29:07,167 --> 00:29:09,334 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 446 00:29:10,133 --> 00:29:12,785 FEMKE: Rina was the first candidate. 447 00:29:12,868 --> 00:29:14,551 When we started Ellis Park, 448 00:29:14,634 --> 00:29:17,151 she was confiscated from a wildlife trader. 449 00:29:17,234 --> 00:29:21,751 He had leaf monkeys that he was selling online. 450 00:29:21,834 --> 00:29:23,084 Iben can tell you all the details, 451 00:29:23,167 --> 00:29:25,801 because he was actually there. 452 00:29:27,167 --> 00:29:32,184 He found Rina tied up behind the house, on a chain, 453 00:29:32,267 --> 00:29:35,718 and she was biting her own arms. 454 00:29:35,801 --> 00:29:37,184 It was like a horror movie. 455 00:29:37,267 --> 00:29:39,050 You know, you could see her tendons, 456 00:29:39,133 --> 00:29:40,050 you could see all her flesh, 457 00:29:40,133 --> 00:29:43,718 and she was literally ripping it out herself. 458 00:29:43,801 --> 00:29:47,684 Then apparently the trader was treating her, 459 00:29:47,767 --> 00:29:50,317 because she was wounded with gasoline. 460 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,551 So, that made it worse, of course. 461 00:29:51,634 --> 00:29:54,851 She was in a lot of pain, so she kept ripping her arm. 462 00:29:54,934 --> 00:29:55,684 And, yeah, anyway, 463 00:29:55,767 --> 00:29:59,400 she was in a horrible, horrible condition. 464 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,251 FEMKE: She had so much spirit in her. 465 00:31:00,334 --> 00:31:02,885 She was such a strong and charismatic 466 00:31:02,968 --> 00:31:03,785 and powerful girl. 467 00:31:03,868 --> 00:31:07,718 You could see she really wanted to... to live. 468 00:31:07,801 --> 00:31:11,384 Her story tells the story of all those other primates 469 00:31:11,467 --> 00:31:14,785 that are still undergoing the same suffering. 470 00:31:14,868 --> 00:31:15,251 By rescuing her, 471 00:31:15,334 --> 00:31:20,084 and by at least being able to finally give her a decent life, 472 00:31:20,167 --> 00:31:20,885 we're making a change. 473 00:31:20,968 --> 00:31:24,818 And I feel like every little change is a big step forward 474 00:31:24,901 --> 00:31:29,234 to a better society where we treat animals better. 475 00:32:19,968 --> 00:32:24,501 (SOMBRE MUSIC ENDS) 476 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,284 WARREN: It's a bit about the book and the gum. 477 00:32:45,367 --> 00:32:46,917 I'm going to take it over to Sumatra 478 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,351 and put it in the park somewhere, 479 00:32:48,434 --> 00:32:51,217 as a sort of good luck totem for the park, 480 00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:53,484 why I'm giving them this thing. 481 00:32:53,567 --> 00:32:56,050 So we're tra... You know... 482 00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:57,785 We're... 483 00:32:57,868 --> 00:33:00,885 tracking through my... 484 00:33:00,968 --> 00:33:03,351 (BOTH LAUGH) 485 00:33:03,434 --> 00:33:05,818 "Ah," he said, "I still don't get it." 486 00:33:05,901 --> 00:33:07,451 (BOTH LAUGH) 487 00:33:07,534 --> 00:33:11,167 (VIOLIN PLAYS) 488 00:33:14,367 --> 00:33:17,418 It was definitely the other cinema that's closed down 489 00:33:17,501 --> 00:33:21,484 that... it's one of the strongest memories I have, 490 00:33:21,567 --> 00:33:23,467 as a kid. 491 00:33:23,901 --> 00:33:26,284 Film was an amazing escape for me. 492 00:33:26,367 --> 00:33:30,367 And music was like that, and reading as well. 493 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,451 Pink Floyd Live In Pompeii. 494 00:33:32,534 --> 00:33:34,950 My dad took us, and it was great. 495 00:33:35,033 --> 00:33:37,351 Like, the bit... You know that film, Live In Pompeii? 496 00:33:37,434 --> 00:33:39,351 You know when the dog starts singing, 497 00:33:39,434 --> 00:33:40,484 in the microphone? 498 00:33:40,567 --> 00:33:43,084 My dad just looked at me and went... 499 00:33:43,167 --> 00:33:46,133 (LAUGHTER) 500 00:33:47,934 --> 00:33:50,017 I think as I got into my teenage years, 501 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:54,151 the world came to me in a really different way there, 502 00:33:54,234 --> 00:33:57,151 through magazines or the television 503 00:33:57,234 --> 00:34:00,200 or through a record shop. 504 00:34:07,634 --> 00:34:09,384 The Oregon Import was, like, 505 00:34:09,467 --> 00:34:11,950 just records you would never see anywhere. 506 00:34:12,033 --> 00:34:14,518 And they had a display in the window 507 00:34:14,601 --> 00:34:16,351 that was the freakiest thing I'd ever seen. 508 00:34:16,434 --> 00:34:20,601 It was like a mannequin with a fish head on it and a hat. 509 00:34:20,901 --> 00:34:23,184 And then I later realised it was a trout mask replica 510 00:34:23,267 --> 00:34:26,484 that he'd made out of a mannequin and put in the window. 511 00:34:26,567 --> 00:34:27,284 And if you went in there, 512 00:34:27,367 --> 00:34:29,284 everybody thought that you were on drugs. 513 00:34:29,367 --> 00:34:33,117 But that was the shop that I discovered punk, rock and jazz. 514 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,084 That was like a key to a more interesting world out of here. 515 00:34:38,167 --> 00:34:41,917 My experiences with big cities were very small. 516 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,551 I'd been to Melbourne to see AC/DC 517 00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:45,584 the Myer Music Bowl. 518 00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:49,117 There was a point where it was like, "You'd better get a job now." 519 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,251 And I went through and did a teaching degree. 520 00:34:52,334 --> 00:34:54,950 I taught for 18 months, left... 521 00:34:55,033 --> 00:34:57,885 'cause I was an alcoholic and taking smack and all that. 522 00:34:57,968 --> 00:34:59,518 And I wasn't really in showroom condition. 523 00:34:59,601 --> 00:35:03,418 And kids need to... deserve better than that. 524 00:35:03,501 --> 00:35:06,151 I mean, I never, you know, fuck... 525 00:35:06,234 --> 00:35:07,984 You know, it sounds reckless, 526 00:35:08,067 --> 00:35:11,317 but, like, hey, I wasn't the only one. 527 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,351 And... 528 00:35:13,434 --> 00:35:15,184 Probably the only one on smack. 529 00:35:15,267 --> 00:35:18,317 But I wasn't the only one drinking. 530 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,151 I guess I realised that, 531 00:35:20,234 --> 00:35:21,950 sitting in the staff room one day, 532 00:35:22,033 --> 00:35:23,484 that I couldn't be 60, 533 00:35:23,567 --> 00:35:25,217 sitting there just thinking, like, 534 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:26,384 what happened to my life? 535 00:35:26,467 --> 00:35:27,284 Could be one of these people, 536 00:35:27,367 --> 00:35:29,651 they're just, like, looking at the clock, waiting. 537 00:35:29,734 --> 00:35:34,701 So I moved to Melbourne and started playing in bands. 538 00:35:47,467 --> 00:35:50,684 A mate of mine bought a bar in Richmond. 539 00:35:50,767 --> 00:35:51,518 I saw him in the street. 540 00:35:51,601 --> 00:35:54,251 He's like, "Warren, are you still doing that music stuff 541 00:35:54,334 --> 00:35:55,418 "that you were doing?" 542 00:35:55,501 --> 00:35:57,551 And I'm like, "Yeah, kind of." 543 00:35:57,634 --> 00:35:58,618 And I told Jim and he was like, 544 00:35:58,701 --> 00:36:01,451 "Look, Mick has got some tunes lying around 545 00:36:01,534 --> 00:36:03,618 "that never found a home with Venom P. Stinger. 546 00:36:03,701 --> 00:36:05,984 "You know, like, let's get him together." 547 00:36:06,067 --> 00:36:07,418 So we sat in my kitchen, 548 00:36:07,501 --> 00:36:09,950 worked out six songs or something. 549 00:36:10,033 --> 00:36:13,418 We had to play for three hours, so we made them really long. 550 00:36:13,501 --> 00:36:15,651 And then we went down and played 551 00:36:15,734 --> 00:36:18,634 the first Dirty Three gig. 552 00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:22,484 And when we did the first show, you know, we loved it. 553 00:36:22,567 --> 00:36:25,117 We didn't really set out to do something, 554 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,551 but it happened, like, straightaway. 555 00:36:26,634 --> 00:36:30,551 And it was purely about the way that we played together. 556 00:36:30,634 --> 00:36:32,384 It was all about the moment. 557 00:36:32,467 --> 00:36:33,551 It was all about the risk 558 00:36:33,634 --> 00:36:36,434 to kind of take that leap of faith. 559 00:36:36,534 --> 00:36:40,351 But to go in there with a couple of really little ideas 560 00:36:40,434 --> 00:36:43,251 and then build something, emotionally, 561 00:36:43,334 --> 00:36:47,251 and it was dynamic that could fall apart at any minute, 562 00:36:47,334 --> 00:36:49,251 I mean, it was really thrilling. 563 00:36:49,334 --> 00:36:51,317 You know, like those shows 564 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,367 are just, like, the most important things in my life. 565 00:37:01,267 --> 00:37:04,151 I remember about one or two gigs in, 566 00:37:04,234 --> 00:37:05,351 you know, I couldn't believe it. 567 00:37:05,434 --> 00:37:10,618 And I said to Mick, "Wow! When do you think we'll stop?" 568 00:37:10,701 --> 00:37:13,751 And he just goes, 569 00:37:13,834 --> 00:37:14,551 "When... 570 00:37:14,634 --> 00:37:18,384 "When what we're making sounds like shit." 571 00:37:18,467 --> 00:37:21,767 (LAUGHTER) 572 00:37:35,434 --> 00:37:36,351 I remember just, like, 573 00:37:36,434 --> 00:37:38,718 waking up a lot of the time just thinking, 574 00:37:38,801 --> 00:37:41,284 "What the fuck am I doing with my life?" 575 00:37:41,367 --> 00:37:43,484 And when I started playing music - 576 00:37:43,567 --> 00:37:46,384 and particularly with Dirty Three - 577 00:37:46,467 --> 00:37:48,418 I didn't ask that anymore. 578 00:37:48,501 --> 00:37:52,151 And it's linked to those two guys, 579 00:37:52,234 --> 00:37:54,818 Jim White and Mick Turner. 580 00:37:54,901 --> 00:37:58,868 And, you know, I'm so grateful for that. 581 00:37:59,434 --> 00:38:03,367 (PLUCKED STRING MUSIC PLAYS) 582 00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:27,367 Well, you know where to have your premieres for things now. 583 00:38:37,834 --> 00:38:40,317 You going to play a bit for us, Justin? 584 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,818 - No, I'm not. - Justin! 585 00:38:41,901 --> 00:38:43,451 I will eventually. 586 00:38:43,534 --> 00:38:44,351 You're making a film... 587 00:38:44,434 --> 00:38:45,418 Not at the Regent, after that. 588 00:38:45,501 --> 00:38:46,785 - That's cruel, Warren. - ...about it. 589 00:38:46,868 --> 00:38:48,618 No, no, no, it's not. Look, we're making... 590 00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:52,151 I will get behind the c... I will direct you. 591 00:38:52,234 --> 00:38:54,117 OK, we can swap roles. 592 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,418 You can play, I'll direct you. You know, I'll throw myself into the kind of wilds with it. 593 00:38:59,501 --> 00:39:02,484 But anytime you want to pick it up, go for it. 594 00:39:02,567 --> 00:39:03,851 - OK, mate. - I got a spare too. 595 00:39:03,934 --> 00:39:06,718 - Yeah, so we could do a duet. - We can. 596 00:39:06,801 --> 00:39:09,567 (PLUCKS MELODY) 597 00:39:09,868 --> 00:39:14,518 JOHN: Well, I'll tell you, just as a matter of interest, 598 00:39:14,601 --> 00:39:16,451 I teared up a bit. 599 00:39:16,534 --> 00:39:18,718 I thought that is the most lovely thing. 600 00:39:18,801 --> 00:39:22,484 And I'll tell you where it is, if I can find it. 601 00:39:22,567 --> 00:39:24,000 Um... 602 00:39:29,567 --> 00:39:32,751 "My dad had a box of his own secrets 603 00:39:32,834 --> 00:39:36,634 "in a high cupboard in the hallway. 604 00:39:36,968 --> 00:39:38,484 "A box of lyrics he had written 605 00:39:38,567 --> 00:39:41,418 "with songs he'd made on the guitar. 606 00:39:41,501 --> 00:39:43,851 "One was titled Mis'ry Is My Middle Name. 607 00:39:43,934 --> 00:39:48,151 "There were also multiples of a photo of him with his guitar, 608 00:39:48,234 --> 00:39:50,217 "which he planned to autograph for fans 609 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:52,351 "when he finally made a career. 610 00:39:52,434 --> 00:39:55,217 "He recorded the singles before he started a family, 611 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:58,584 "a self-financed 45 rpm recording of Mis'ry, 612 00:39:58,667 --> 00:40:00,618 "and a 78 rpm of It's No Wonder, 613 00:40:00,701 --> 00:40:03,917 "backed by a live version of The River Looks Lonely Tonight 614 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,901 "at the Queen Elizabeth Geriatric Centre. 615 00:40:09,734 --> 00:40:10,818 "Then one day, 616 00:40:10,901 --> 00:40:14,701 "I guess he packed his songs in that box." 617 00:40:15,267 --> 00:40:16,950 Isn't that... That's... 618 00:40:17,033 --> 00:40:19,551 To me, that's full of everything. 619 00:40:19,634 --> 00:40:22,418 He lived for every little bloody song 620 00:40:22,501 --> 00:40:23,818 that he wrote 621 00:40:23,901 --> 00:40:25,551 and he just... 622 00:40:25,634 --> 00:40:28,551 he grew up and it was all gone. 623 00:40:28,634 --> 00:40:31,551 I don't know how that affects you, but I felt really... 624 00:40:31,634 --> 00:40:36,785 I thought that is one of the most feeling-filled little bits 625 00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:38,901 that I've ever read. 626 00:40:39,501 --> 00:40:41,518 Some of that's fairly close to the truth. 627 00:40:41,601 --> 00:40:44,751 And you don't really know what other people are thinking 628 00:40:44,834 --> 00:40:46,151 and what they're doing. 629 00:40:46,234 --> 00:40:49,484 But it's a pretty good impression 630 00:40:49,567 --> 00:40:51,885 of what his father was thinking. 631 00:40:51,968 --> 00:40:56,384 I have to get back to Melbourne tonight. 632 00:40:56,467 --> 00:40:58,684 - I start rehearsing tomorrow. - Oh, do you? 633 00:40:58,767 --> 00:41:01,885 And then we start touring. 634 00:41:01,968 --> 00:41:05,484 But I'll come back up probably next week 635 00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:06,651 or something like that. 636 00:41:06,734 --> 00:41:08,384 JOHN: Oh, I don't know if you heard - 637 00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:10,251 did you hear what I was saying before? 638 00:41:10,334 --> 00:41:13,451 - Yeah. - Oh, you did. I meant that. 639 00:41:13,534 --> 00:41:16,518 That was just a lovely... 640 00:41:16,601 --> 00:41:18,451 had lovely feeling, 641 00:41:18,534 --> 00:41:21,351 that people get. 642 00:41:21,434 --> 00:41:22,418 All of a sudden, 643 00:41:22,501 --> 00:41:25,584 the flashing light and it says, cut. 644 00:41:25,667 --> 00:41:28,217 And what you were doing is finished. 645 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:29,217 WARREN: Yeah. 646 00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:32,384 Well, we've all got our boxes, haven't we? 647 00:41:32,467 --> 00:41:34,584 JOHN: Well, yeah, you should have. 648 00:41:34,667 --> 00:41:35,751 WARREN: Yeah, we all have a little box. 649 00:41:35,834 --> 00:41:38,851 JOHN: Even if it's a mysterious thing that's hidden away 650 00:41:38,934 --> 00:41:42,284 behind an imaginary clown's camp 651 00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:44,651 - or something like that. - Exactly. 652 00:41:44,734 --> 00:41:45,518 We've all got our clowns. 653 00:41:45,601 --> 00:41:47,751 You've got to have something. Why not? 654 00:41:47,834 --> 00:41:49,618 Fuckin' why not? Exactly. 655 00:41:49,701 --> 00:41:50,351 Where are you going? 656 00:41:50,434 --> 00:41:52,917 I'm going to see they don't pinch anything. 657 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,000 (LAUGHTER) 658 00:41:57,801 --> 00:41:59,868 Oh, you can laugh. 659 00:42:03,868 --> 00:42:07,534 DIANE: You right? WARREN: See you soon. 660 00:42:07,968 --> 00:42:11,801 (AMAZING GRACE ON VIOLIN PLAYS) 661 00:42:17,534 --> 00:42:21,601 - So, it's exactly the same? - Exactly the same, yeah. 662 00:42:22,901 --> 00:42:23,950 Exactly the same. 663 00:42:24,033 --> 00:42:29,050 I haven't been in here for... 40 years, I guess. 664 00:42:29,133 --> 00:42:31,434 Maybe, yeah, 40. 665 00:42:42,734 --> 00:42:46,501 (CONTINUES AMAZING GRACE) 666 00:42:49,634 --> 00:42:53,518 There's also, like, a complex dynamic going on at home. 667 00:42:53,601 --> 00:42:57,851 And my mother was hard on us, as kids. 668 00:42:57,934 --> 00:43:00,384 And there was a lot of stuff with that 669 00:43:00,467 --> 00:43:03,734 that I'd never come to terms with. 670 00:43:04,133 --> 00:43:04,851 The other side of it was 671 00:43:04,934 --> 00:43:07,718 I know my mother instilled in me a belief in God. 672 00:43:07,801 --> 00:43:09,584 And she knew that I wanted to 673 00:43:09,667 --> 00:43:11,518 believe in something as well, you know? 674 00:43:11,601 --> 00:43:14,551 So I can see now that she tried to love us 675 00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:18,200 in the way that was possible for her. 676 00:43:21,667 --> 00:43:23,351 JUSTIN: So she was quite hard on you? 677 00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:24,984 Yeah, I never understood why, 678 00:43:25,067 --> 00:43:28,785 and never could work out why it happened. 679 00:43:28,868 --> 00:43:31,751 I just figured, you know, 680 00:43:31,834 --> 00:43:34,618 it was our fault or something, you know? 681 00:43:34,701 --> 00:43:37,917 And then when I became older and had kids, 682 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,984 I realised that I was looking at the age that I was 683 00:43:43,067 --> 00:43:44,418 when that was going on. 684 00:43:44,501 --> 00:43:46,084 It sort of released me of that, you know? 685 00:43:46,167 --> 00:43:50,567 I realised that I wasn't responsible. 686 00:43:54,767 --> 00:43:56,618 I see my mum recently now, 687 00:43:56,701 --> 00:43:58,718 how she is now, you know, with... 688 00:43:58,801 --> 00:44:01,651 She has some form of dementia going on. 689 00:44:01,734 --> 00:44:06,551 And I was suddenly able to see a lot of compassion for her 690 00:44:06,634 --> 00:44:11,067 and feel a lot of compassion, which I found really moving. 691 00:44:12,567 --> 00:44:13,418 Which, you know, 692 00:44:13,501 --> 00:44:18,785 is something that, for a lot of my life, I guess, 693 00:44:18,868 --> 00:44:21,634 I just kind of ran away from. 694 00:44:38,834 --> 00:44:41,601 It always ends up in a cupboard. 695 00:44:41,834 --> 00:44:43,684 Every time I follow it through. 696 00:44:43,767 --> 00:44:45,017 And I do therapy where... 697 00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,518 I remember one, and she'd go, "Where are you?" 698 00:44:47,601 --> 00:44:50,451 And "I'm in a cupboard. I'm in the wedding dress. 699 00:44:50,534 --> 00:44:52,968 "I'm hiding in a suitcase." 700 00:44:54,901 --> 00:44:57,234 "What do you need to do?" 701 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,934 "Keep quiet." 702 00:45:00,901 --> 00:45:02,984 "What will you say to that little boy? 703 00:45:03,067 --> 00:45:06,151 "What would you say to him? Talk to him." 704 00:45:06,234 --> 00:45:08,551 You know, I would get to this point with it, 705 00:45:08,634 --> 00:45:12,167 and I'd be like, "It's going to be OK." 706 00:45:12,934 --> 00:45:16,251 Yesterday I saw, you know, 707 00:45:16,334 --> 00:45:20,901 like, one of the bravest guys I know... 708 00:45:24,267 --> 00:45:26,284 ...when I went and visited my dad. 709 00:45:26,367 --> 00:45:30,017 And I sat with him and talked, 710 00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:34,868 and held his hand all day, in the car, and... 711 00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:37,584 ...went and ate fish and chips 712 00:45:37,667 --> 00:45:42,651 and had a nap together in a hotel room. 713 00:45:42,734 --> 00:45:44,017 And... 714 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,818 I just saw, you know, 715 00:45:46,901 --> 00:45:50,618 this courageous, brave old man 716 00:45:50,701 --> 00:45:53,067 who I love a lot. 717 00:45:54,167 --> 00:45:57,651 My mum had some undiagnosed, I don't know - 718 00:45:57,734 --> 00:46:01,400 I don't think we'll ever fucking know what it was. 719 00:46:01,767 --> 00:46:04,751 Undiagnosed mental problem or something. 720 00:46:04,834 --> 00:46:06,184 I don't really... I don't even... 721 00:46:06,267 --> 00:46:10,334 Reluctant to say that because I don't really know. 722 00:46:11,033 --> 00:46:14,251 And that, you know, like, that... 723 00:46:14,334 --> 00:46:17,117 uh, her... 724 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,684 kind of wilder side, um, you know, 725 00:46:20,767 --> 00:46:23,050 had continued through the whole marriage. 726 00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:24,984 And for my dad to finally talk, 727 00:46:25,067 --> 00:46:27,785 after 67 years of talking to no-one, 728 00:46:27,868 --> 00:46:30,317 I realised I was looking at, you know, 729 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,084 an 89-year-old guy 730 00:46:32,167 --> 00:46:36,901 who was, you know, suffering from trauma. 731 00:46:38,067 --> 00:46:39,084 It meant the world to me 732 00:46:39,167 --> 00:46:41,984 to finally have closure and understanding 733 00:46:42,067 --> 00:46:46,785 on things that I've struggled with for years. 734 00:46:46,868 --> 00:46:48,334 Um... 735 00:46:50,267 --> 00:46:52,801 You know, trauma... 736 00:46:54,234 --> 00:46:57,217 ...childhood trauma that continues through your life 737 00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:00,434 and that you don't know what it is. 738 00:47:06,934 --> 00:47:08,968 Oh, fuck! 739 00:47:11,467 --> 00:47:13,000 (SIGHS) 740 00:47:16,033 --> 00:47:18,618 Thank God that my father had the courage 741 00:47:18,701 --> 00:47:21,751 to have this conversation with me now. 742 00:47:21,834 --> 00:47:23,351 I really thank God for that. 743 00:47:23,434 --> 00:47:29,200 (SOLEMN, DRAMATIC PIANO MUSIC) 744 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,384 Funnier than a bum full of Smarties, eh? 745 00:47:59,467 --> 00:48:01,434 (LAUGHS) 746 00:48:03,167 --> 00:48:04,317 This road hasn't changed. 747 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,718 It's still the fucking worst road in Melbourne. 748 00:48:06,801 --> 00:48:08,718 JUSTIN: I was actually concerned about 749 00:48:08,801 --> 00:48:10,317 getting you there on time, going this way. 750 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,718 This was always a terrible road when you had to go and score 751 00:48:13,801 --> 00:48:16,351 because you'd be stuck in traffic, 40 degrees, 752 00:48:16,434 --> 00:48:18,851 and just fucking dripping in sweat 753 00:48:18,934 --> 00:48:21,567 and throwing up in the car, and... 754 00:48:21,868 --> 00:48:24,950 Every time I drive down here, I get the heebie-jeebies. 755 00:48:25,033 --> 00:48:27,851 Thank God I'm not... (LAUGHS) 756 00:48:27,934 --> 00:48:29,418 ...not back in the '90s. 757 00:48:29,501 --> 00:48:33,317 This place was the first time I ever played with the Bad Seeds. 758 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,984 Dirty Three opened for them, 759 00:48:35,067 --> 00:48:38,133 in '93 or something, I think. 760 00:48:38,434 --> 00:48:41,818 But it's a great old theatre, this. 761 00:48:41,901 --> 00:48:45,901 I mean, Luna Park opposite - it's fantastic. 762 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:49,351 (PLAYS INTO MY ARMS) 763 00:48:49,434 --> 00:48:53,400 (INDISTINCT) 764 00:48:55,567 --> 00:48:58,151 I first played with Nick in 1994, 765 00:48:58,234 --> 00:49:01,418 On that stage, I had no idea that it would lead to 766 00:49:01,501 --> 00:49:05,317 such an important creative relationship, 767 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,601 but also a friendship that continues until this day. 768 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,151 ♪ I don't... 769 00:49:17,234 --> 00:49:19,217 (INDISTINCT) 770 00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:22,267 (PLAYS LOW NOTES) 771 00:49:22,968 --> 00:49:24,467 (INDISTINCT) 772 00:49:33,334 --> 00:49:36,785 Nick allowed me to evolve as a musician, 773 00:49:36,868 --> 00:49:40,317 allowed me to take risksand just took me for who I was, 774 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:46,518 and an important person to seek counsel when I've needed it. 775 00:49:46,601 --> 00:49:51,334 (MUSIC ENDS) 776 00:49:54,868 --> 00:49:55,851 WARREN: Nick had invited Nina Simone 777 00:49:55,934 --> 00:49:59,367 to perform at his Meltdown Festival in London, 778 00:50:00,167 --> 00:50:02,184 and it was that gig that was very real proof 779 00:50:02,267 --> 00:50:05,785 of the transcendental power of performance, 780 00:50:05,868 --> 00:50:09,484 where I stole a chewing gum. 781 00:50:09,567 --> 00:50:10,950 Walking into that room, 782 00:50:11,033 --> 00:50:15,317 my sense of anticipation was so incredibly high, 783 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,984 because, you know, it was a concert 784 00:50:17,067 --> 00:50:19,484 I just never thought I would ever see in my life. 785 00:50:19,567 --> 00:50:21,885 And she sort of stood in the wings, 786 00:50:21,968 --> 00:50:23,317 having a cigarette and stuff, 787 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,818 and you could see that actually, 788 00:50:24,901 --> 00:50:27,950 when she made a move forward 'cause Nick announced her, 789 00:50:28,033 --> 00:50:32,418 that she had physical trouble actually moving, you know? 790 00:50:32,501 --> 00:50:35,317 And she sort of slowly made her way to the stage 791 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,984 and just raised this defiant fist in the air 792 00:50:39,067 --> 00:50:40,818 and just let out a "Yeah!" 793 00:50:40,901 --> 00:50:45,351 NINA SIMONE: ♪ ...chains holding me 794 00:50:45,434 --> 00:50:48,384 ♪ I wish I could say 795 00:50:48,467 --> 00:50:52,484 ♪ All the things that I should say 796 00:50:52,567 --> 00:50:54,351 ♪ Say 'em loud... 797 00:50:54,434 --> 00:50:58,050 She got through to the end of the first song, 798 00:50:58,133 --> 00:51:00,117 and everybody was just going crazy, you know? 799 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,284 And she gave another fist in the air like that, 800 00:51:03,367 --> 00:51:04,050 and then sat down, 801 00:51:04,133 --> 00:51:07,050 and this unbelievable transformation took place. 802 00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:08,317 She'd get up, she was dancing, 803 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,418 and sort of blowing kisses to people, 804 00:51:10,501 --> 00:51:16,184 and this... transformation was just extraordinary. 805 00:51:16,267 --> 00:51:18,418 And then she left. And, um... 806 00:51:18,501 --> 00:51:22,251 I ran up on stage and took her chewing gum, 807 00:51:22,334 --> 00:51:25,885 because I'd seen that she'd sort of stuck it on the piano. 808 00:51:25,968 --> 00:51:28,885 And then kept it for... 20 years 809 00:51:28,968 --> 00:51:33,017 as a... like a sort of personal totem. 810 00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:34,950 It became aligned with... 811 00:51:35,033 --> 00:51:37,217 I guess, shifts in my life, you know? 812 00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:39,050 I sobered up, I got married, 813 00:51:39,133 --> 00:51:42,184 I built a studio - I had the gum in there. 814 00:51:42,267 --> 00:51:43,384 I built a shrine to it. 815 00:51:43,467 --> 00:51:45,017 But it was just a personal thing, 816 00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:47,518 until I released it 20 years later, 817 00:51:47,601 --> 00:51:50,217 and put it in Nick Cave's exhibition, 818 00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:51,284 Stranger Than Kindness. 819 00:51:51,367 --> 00:51:55,017 What people care about is actually invisible, 820 00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:55,518 you know? 821 00:51:55,601 --> 00:51:57,618 It's whatever is around it, 822 00:51:57,701 --> 00:52:01,117 and it represents our imagination, 823 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,484 what we are capable of doing. 824 00:52:03,567 --> 00:52:04,950 I text a photo to Ann, 825 00:52:05,033 --> 00:52:08,251 who, you know, made this - Ann Demeulemeester. 826 00:52:08,334 --> 00:52:12,651 And she texts back like it's like a hair of Christ. 827 00:52:12,734 --> 00:52:17,684 As well as the fact that it is Nina Simone's chewing gum. 828 00:52:17,767 --> 00:52:19,484 ♪ ...I could fly 829 00:52:19,567 --> 00:52:22,384 ♪ Oh, I'd soar to the sun 830 00:52:22,467 --> 00:52:27,367 ♪ And look down at the sea... 831 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,284 I've been taking the gum along to concerts. 832 00:52:32,367 --> 00:52:34,084 Took it along to Hanging Rock, 833 00:52:34,167 --> 00:52:37,050 put it on the stage, uh... 834 00:52:37,133 --> 00:52:38,184 'cause I kind of feel... 835 00:52:38,267 --> 00:52:39,284 You know, it's been passed around 836 00:52:39,367 --> 00:52:43,050 at all the book launches and things like that, 837 00:52:43,133 --> 00:52:48,484 kind of figure that we'll be taking everybody with us 838 00:52:48,567 --> 00:52:49,217 that's touched it. 839 00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:50,618 I don't take it on every concert, 840 00:52:50,701 --> 00:52:51,984 because I know I'll lose it. 841 00:52:52,067 --> 00:52:56,584 But I love this idea of somehow taking the energy, 842 00:52:56,667 --> 00:53:01,351 you know, with us when we go and give this to Femke. 843 00:53:01,434 --> 00:53:02,684 You know, it'll have been touched, 844 00:53:02,767 --> 00:53:05,317 and in thousands of people's hands, 845 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,618 and thousands of people's presence. 846 00:53:07,701 --> 00:53:10,701 It feels a big part of it, I mean... 847 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,284 JUSTIN: I keep on forgetting that we're going to the park. 848 00:53:14,367 --> 00:53:15,618 We're going to the park? 849 00:53:15,701 --> 00:53:16,551 Yeah, I know. We're going to... 850 00:53:16,634 --> 00:53:19,584 This is going to be a two-parter, isn't it? 851 00:53:19,667 --> 00:53:20,518 (JUSTIN LAUGHS) 852 00:53:20,601 --> 00:53:22,184 I mean, today's a bit like, 853 00:53:22,267 --> 00:53:23,518 today's a bit like, you know, 854 00:53:23,601 --> 00:53:25,251 the final act in Goodfellas, for me. 855 00:53:25,334 --> 00:53:28,251 It's like, you know, choppers, and making the pasta, 856 00:53:28,334 --> 00:53:30,651 and trying to deliver the cocaine and that. 857 00:53:30,734 --> 00:53:32,651 I have a lot of days like that, you know? 858 00:53:32,734 --> 00:53:34,584 I mean, there's no cocaine or choppers, 859 00:53:34,667 --> 00:53:37,017 but just like where everything is just, you know, 860 00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:42,384 hovering overhead, and everything's colliding. 861 00:53:42,467 --> 00:53:44,151 Um, but... 862 00:53:44,234 --> 00:53:47,451 thankfully, there's a concert to do. 863 00:53:47,534 --> 00:53:48,651 Um... 864 00:53:48,734 --> 00:53:52,451 'Cause that's always been my way of, um, 865 00:53:52,534 --> 00:53:54,834 dealing with stuff. 866 00:53:55,601 --> 00:54:03,334 (SINGS ALTERNATING RISING AND FALLING NOTES) 867 00:54:03,534 --> 00:54:05,785 (ELECTRIC BEAT MARKS TEMPO) 868 00:54:05,868 --> 00:54:07,651 (PLAYS DISCORDANT SYNTH CHORD) 869 00:54:07,734 --> 00:54:09,501 Whoa! 870 00:54:10,734 --> 00:54:13,767 (VIOLIN STARTS) 871 00:54:31,667 --> 00:54:36,567 (PLAYS SYNTHESISER, MIS-HITS OCCASIONALLY) 872 00:54:50,767 --> 00:54:52,367 OK, cool. 873 00:54:52,767 --> 00:54:57,267 (PLAYS LOW, SUSTAINED CHORD) 874 00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:06,418 Playing music was always an act of meditation for me. 875 00:55:06,501 --> 00:55:10,868 The world stops, and you're just in this place. 876 00:55:11,367 --> 00:55:15,367 I could never roll that into real life. 877 00:55:16,734 --> 00:55:20,601 (LOW MUSIC CONTINUES) 878 00:55:39,667 --> 00:55:43,317 What you chose to do, make me play in these places, 879 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,284 which I didn't realise, 880 00:55:44,367 --> 00:55:48,367 was kind of like an exorcism of sorts for me. 881 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,084 The fernery, the sculpture, The Flight From Pompeii, 882 00:55:57,167 --> 00:56:00,518 and the church, and the countryside, 883 00:56:00,601 --> 00:56:01,885 riding a bike and things like that - 884 00:56:01,968 --> 00:56:04,484 they were all places of trying to find peace. 885 00:56:04,567 --> 00:56:05,818 You know, sitting under a tree, 886 00:56:05,901 --> 00:56:08,418 smoking a cigarette, eating fish and chips. 887 00:56:08,501 --> 00:56:09,818 It's just like, so amazing. 888 00:56:09,901 --> 00:56:14,033 I'd never thought about that until we went there. 889 00:56:14,501 --> 00:56:15,684 Trying to find places of peace, 890 00:56:15,767 --> 00:56:19,351 and trying to create a place that you feel safe in. 891 00:56:19,434 --> 00:56:24,300 (VIOLIN MELODY PLAYS OVER SYNTH MUSIC) 892 00:56:27,734 --> 00:56:31,000 (CHEERING) 893 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,534 (SINGS ALTERNATING HIGHER AND LOWER NOTES) 894 00:57:05,367 --> 00:57:08,634 (ON-STAGE BAND, CROWD INAUDIBLE) 895 00:57:29,801 --> 00:57:33,601 (INAUDIBLE) 896 00:57:53,033 --> 00:57:56,801 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 897 00:59:02,067 --> 00:59:07,734 (SINGS ALTERNATING HIGHER AND LOWER NOTES) 898 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,667 (MUSIC FADES) 899 00:59:38,834 --> 00:59:41,418 I have thought, well... 900 00:59:41,501 --> 00:59:44,567 I guess I have... 901 00:59:45,501 --> 00:59:47,667 I've got the, uh... 902 00:59:51,601 --> 00:59:57,067 I have to decide... when... 903 00:59:57,634 --> 01:00:00,084 This doesn't feel the moment, actually, 904 01:00:00,167 --> 01:00:01,451 for this, to me. 905 01:00:01,534 --> 01:00:03,351 Maybe that's something we can work out 906 01:00:03,434 --> 01:00:05,551 when we get in there and can give... 907 01:00:05,634 --> 01:00:08,751 hand this over, 'cause that's why we're here, 908 01:00:08,834 --> 01:00:10,934 in a way, for me. 909 01:00:11,067 --> 01:00:14,467 I've been keeping this for the occasion. 910 01:00:14,701 --> 01:00:21,117 A... unopened fruit shirt, uh... 911 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,651 that I got during the lockdowns. 912 01:00:23,734 --> 01:00:26,818 When the park happened, I thought if I ever go, 913 01:00:26,901 --> 01:00:32,084 this will be the occasion to undo the package. 914 01:00:32,167 --> 01:00:34,701 I didn't get flowers. 915 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,017 That'll be all right. 916 01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:39,418 JUSTIN: Maybe we'll stop on the way. 917 01:00:39,501 --> 01:00:42,701 - Might be nice, do you think? - Yeah. 918 01:00:43,133 --> 01:00:46,684 We were too busy trying to work out the gate yesterday 919 01:00:46,767 --> 01:00:48,651 to think about anything like that. 920 01:00:48,734 --> 01:00:52,734 JUSTIN: I feel really ner... I feel like I'm going to a wedding. 921 01:00:52,901 --> 01:00:53,851 Yeah, it has a bit of that, 922 01:00:53,934 --> 01:00:56,984 or, like, knowing there's a birthday party arranged 923 01:00:57,067 --> 01:00:57,584 or something 924 01:00:57,667 --> 01:01:01,785 and you kind of, like, you don't want to go. 925 01:01:01,868 --> 01:01:03,785 But... You know? 926 01:01:03,868 --> 01:01:05,885 And when you get there, it's going to be OK, 927 01:01:05,968 --> 01:01:11,734 but the buildup to it's excruciating. 928 01:01:12,033 --> 01:01:15,117 But, you know, we just do this kind of, 929 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,518 you know... 930 01:01:16,601 --> 01:01:19,084 - It's like, we'll just do it. - Mm. 931 01:01:19,167 --> 01:01:22,651 - In or out? - Hm, try it in. 932 01:01:22,734 --> 01:01:23,751 In? (LAUGHS) 933 01:01:23,834 --> 01:01:24,950 I mean, they've probably got 934 01:01:25,033 --> 01:01:26,718 really nice flowers there anyway. 935 01:01:26,801 --> 01:01:29,050 JUSTIN: Yeah, but it's a lovely gesture. 936 01:01:29,133 --> 01:01:30,734 Yeah. 937 01:01:32,267 --> 01:01:33,734 You got the ring? 938 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,551 JUSTIN: I was about to fucking say that. 939 01:01:36,634 --> 01:01:38,767 (BOTH LAUGH) 940 01:01:40,767 --> 01:01:45,785 Let's do it. 941 01:01:45,868 --> 01:01:49,451 I mean, I responded to those pictures of the animals, 942 01:01:49,534 --> 01:01:50,151 more than anything. 943 01:01:50,234 --> 01:01:53,818 It was something that I felt compelled to do, 944 01:01:53,901 --> 01:01:56,950 on a really emotional level. 945 01:01:57,033 --> 01:01:58,851 As soon as I saw Femke, 946 01:01:58,934 --> 01:02:01,984 and as soon as I saw what she was doing, 947 01:02:02,067 --> 01:02:03,917 I never had doubts about it, 948 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,100 because doubts sort of poison ideas. 949 01:02:09,934 --> 01:02:11,484 Here was a team of people 950 01:02:11,567 --> 01:02:14,785 who were just doing what they believed in. 951 01:02:14,868 --> 01:02:16,050 And I told my family, 952 01:02:16,133 --> 01:02:17,084 you know, my kids were just like, 953 01:02:17,167 --> 01:02:19,917 "Oh, I think that's the best thing you've ever done." 954 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,601 We don't deserve animals. 955 01:02:26,367 --> 01:02:28,117 I met two people who lived with her, 956 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,334 when I was doing a book signing in the Hague. 957 01:02:32,601 --> 01:02:35,950 And they're like, "Oh, I'm really glad that you met Femke 958 01:02:36,033 --> 01:02:37,251 "and you started the park up." 959 01:02:37,334 --> 01:02:39,950 And I said, "I've never met her," you know? 960 01:02:40,033 --> 01:02:42,050 "What's she like?" 961 01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:42,851 They said, 962 01:02:42,934 --> 01:02:45,584 "Well, we all lived in a squat together in Amsterdam, 963 01:02:45,667 --> 01:02:47,684 "and she was just always bringing home 964 01:02:47,767 --> 01:02:50,751 "stray dogs and cats, taking care of them, 965 01:02:50,834 --> 01:02:52,551 "when she was studying to be a nurse. 966 01:02:52,634 --> 01:02:55,584 "We always knew she would do something like this," 967 01:02:55,667 --> 01:02:56,551 which was great to hear. 968 01:02:56,634 --> 01:02:58,984 It seems like she found her purpose. 969 01:02:59,067 --> 01:03:00,917 Oh, fucking hell... 970 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,684 Which is such a gift to be given. 971 01:03:03,767 --> 01:03:04,851 (LAUGHS) 972 01:03:04,934 --> 01:03:05,317 Rio! 973 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,367 - Hey! - G'day, you gorgeous thing! 974 01:03:12,734 --> 01:03:15,367 Oh, my God. (LAUGHS) 975 01:03:16,300 --> 01:03:20,767 Welcome to your Indonesian home! 976 01:03:27,801 --> 01:03:29,017 This is a lot. 977 01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:30,651 Hey, Rio. 978 01:03:30,734 --> 01:03:33,084 How are you, mate? Good? 979 01:03:33,167 --> 01:03:34,317 Excellent. 980 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,284 - How are you? - Darno. 981 01:03:35,367 --> 01:03:38,117 - Nice to meet you. - Darno. Nice to meet you, too. 982 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,050 WARREN: Wow. How amazing. 983 01:03:39,133 --> 01:03:42,151 - Iben. - Iben. Nice to meet you, too. 984 01:03:42,234 --> 01:03:44,251 - Mila. - Mila? 985 01:03:44,334 --> 01:03:46,084 Nice to meet you. 986 01:03:46,167 --> 01:03:48,467 Janipa! Yes. 987 01:03:49,434 --> 01:03:51,017 You do amazing stuff. 988 01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:52,885 - Mula. - Hello! 989 01:03:52,968 --> 01:03:53,184 Hey. 990 01:03:53,267 --> 01:03:54,651 FEMKE: These are all the amazing people 991 01:03:54,734 --> 01:03:56,050 taking care of all the amazing animals. 992 01:03:56,133 --> 01:03:56,885 - Piera. - Amazing people. 993 01:03:56,968 --> 01:04:00,184 And there is a volcano called Krakatoa. It's quite famous. 994 01:04:00,267 --> 01:04:01,851 Oh, it's Krakatoa? Yeah. 995 01:04:01,934 --> 01:04:03,785 So you can see it in the back. 996 01:04:03,868 --> 01:04:05,217 That's the one over in...? 997 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:07,084 Yeah. And it's been active lately. 998 01:04:07,167 --> 01:04:09,017 This one here, down to there, like that? 999 01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:10,651 Just right before that motorcross track. 1000 01:04:10,734 --> 01:04:12,284 Yeah, right. So, where you can see, 1001 01:04:12,367 --> 01:04:14,934 there's other land there... 1002 01:04:15,334 --> 01:04:17,351 Oh, that's brilliant. 1003 01:04:17,434 --> 01:04:18,984 It's quite a lot. 1004 01:04:19,067 --> 01:04:21,151 - It's awesome. - Yeah. 1005 01:04:21,234 --> 01:04:25,934 It's enough to do some stuff with, isn't it? 1006 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,751 You want to bring Rina a little present? 1007 01:04:43,834 --> 01:04:46,618 - Yeah, alright, great. - Not everything, though. 1008 01:04:46,701 --> 01:04:48,151 We love her, but... 1009 01:04:48,234 --> 01:04:50,984 - How many? - Maybe that's enough. 1010 01:04:51,067 --> 01:04:53,300 - Alright. - Yeah. 1011 01:04:56,367 --> 01:04:58,434 - (CLANG!) - Out. 1012 01:05:04,434 --> 01:05:07,534 FEMKE: Hi! She's saying hi. 1013 01:05:10,934 --> 01:05:13,050 - Hey, Rina. - It's OK. 1014 01:05:13,133 --> 01:05:14,751 It's OK? 1015 01:05:14,834 --> 01:05:17,801 There you go, gorgeous. 1016 01:05:20,834 --> 01:05:23,151 FEMKE: It's incredible how agile she is. 1017 01:05:23,234 --> 01:05:26,117 - Yeah. - She can open everything. 1018 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,934 Does she remember everything? 1019 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,184 FEMKE: I think she put it in her past, 1020 01:05:31,267 --> 01:05:33,917 because she's not aggressive to people. 1021 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,818 WARREN: Right. FEMKE: And we give her a lot of extra attention 1022 01:05:36,901 --> 01:05:38,984 because she needs that, and she deserves it, 1023 01:05:39,067 --> 01:05:42,718 like, after living so many years in isolation 1024 01:05:42,801 --> 01:05:44,950 and in so much pain. 1025 01:05:45,033 --> 01:05:46,418 If she could go back to the wild, 1026 01:05:46,501 --> 01:05:48,251 we would have a different relationship. 1027 01:05:48,334 --> 01:05:51,200 - Yeah. - But she can't, ever. 1028 01:05:52,434 --> 01:05:55,351 It's not just healing physically, 1029 01:05:55,434 --> 01:05:56,785 like, treating the wounds. 1030 01:05:56,868 --> 01:05:58,117 It's a mental process as well. 1031 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,050 You really have to help them, step by step, 1032 01:06:01,133 --> 01:06:03,184 to gaining back their confidence, 1033 01:06:03,267 --> 01:06:05,851 to feel worthwhile living. 1034 01:06:05,934 --> 01:06:07,851 - Can I touch her? - Yeah. 1035 01:06:07,934 --> 01:06:10,917 And when they finally do, it's beautiful. 1036 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,818 You can see the spark back, you know, in their eyes. 1037 01:06:14,901 --> 01:06:16,151 You can see that they, 1038 01:06:16,234 --> 01:06:19,050 yeah, feel confident with themselves again. 1039 01:06:19,133 --> 01:06:21,984 And they start to explore the surroundings. 1040 01:06:22,067 --> 01:06:23,317 What you see in the beginning 1041 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,785 is a depressed, lifeless individual. 1042 01:06:27,868 --> 01:06:30,000 I have a... 1043 01:06:30,234 --> 01:06:31,818 ...a piece of chewing gum to give you. 1044 01:06:31,901 --> 01:06:33,851 But we have to work out where to put it. 1045 01:06:33,934 --> 01:06:36,851 - (LAUGHS) Awesome. OK. - (LAUGHS) Awesome! 1046 01:06:36,934 --> 01:06:40,384 If I'm sitting there, like, feeling sorry for myself 1047 01:06:40,467 --> 01:06:44,151 because I can't put a bit of music to a film, 1048 01:06:44,234 --> 01:06:45,084 and I think about you, 1049 01:06:45,167 --> 01:06:47,484 and I'm like, "Alright, pull your socks up," 1050 01:06:47,567 --> 01:06:48,917 you know, "Get on with it." 1051 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,917 - (FEMKE LAUGHS) Yeah? - (LAUGHS) 1052 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:51,917 That's awesome. 1053 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,084 I think about you and I'm like, 1054 01:06:53,167 --> 01:06:55,418 "Alright, Femke's out there, kind of, you know, 1055 01:06:55,501 --> 01:06:57,451 "battling the traders and stuff like that - 1056 01:06:57,534 --> 01:07:01,818 "I can write a bit of music. Fuck's sake," you know? 1057 01:07:01,901 --> 01:07:04,117 Get it in perspective. 1058 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,968 (GENTLE SYNTH MUSIC) 1059 01:07:15,367 --> 01:07:17,267 Oh, yeah. 1060 01:07:40,667 --> 01:07:43,484 Can you engineer this for me, Justin? 1061 01:07:43,567 --> 01:07:44,117 JUSTIN: Yeah. 1062 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,917 I think I'll play that thing on this and then just play along. 1063 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,818 Great, alright. 1064 01:07:49,901 --> 01:07:51,184 We'll just record that. 1065 01:07:51,267 --> 01:07:53,217 You can be the engineer, you chuck it on. 1066 01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:55,251 - Alright, you ready? - Yeah. 1067 01:07:55,334 --> 01:07:59,133 (SYNTH MUSIC PLAYS) 1068 01:08:07,534 --> 01:08:11,234 (ECHOES MELODY) 1069 01:08:32,467 --> 01:08:36,200 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 1070 01:09:16,601 --> 01:09:20,484 FEMKE: It's big money, and it involves big wildlife traders 1071 01:09:20,567 --> 01:09:22,484 that can also be potentially dangerous. 1072 01:09:22,567 --> 01:09:24,484 In some cases, like criminal networks 1073 01:09:24,567 --> 01:09:28,100 that operate internationally. 1074 01:09:34,767 --> 01:09:38,050 So, we're now at the main seaport. 1075 01:09:38,133 --> 01:09:41,384 And this is the main exit from Sumatra to Java. 1076 01:09:41,467 --> 01:09:44,251 And this is, like, a huge smuggling route for animals. 1077 01:09:44,334 --> 01:09:50,267 And this is actually the reason why the centre exists. 1078 01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:57,801 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 1079 01:10:00,734 --> 01:10:03,551 FEMKE: We go here as often as we can. 1080 01:10:03,634 --> 01:10:06,017 At least, we have three raids a week. 1081 01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:07,151 The times vary. 1082 01:10:07,234 --> 01:10:10,467 And for the doggies, it's a game. 1083 01:10:11,634 --> 01:10:13,718 You can compare it to the narcotics trade. 1084 01:10:13,801 --> 01:10:15,418 - Like drugs. - Yeah, like drugs. 1085 01:10:15,501 --> 01:10:17,950 Only it's always been neglected, you know? 1086 01:10:18,033 --> 01:10:20,418 Like, the trade in ivory and animals 1087 01:10:20,501 --> 01:10:21,950 and parts of animals - 1088 01:10:22,033 --> 01:10:23,950 it's always been sort of a side issue. 1089 01:10:24,033 --> 01:10:28,584 While, actually, the trade is as big as narcotics, 1090 01:10:28,667 --> 01:10:30,184 people make as much money, 1091 01:10:30,267 --> 01:10:33,317 and they're destroying the whole ecosystem 1092 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,518 and the future of our planet. 1093 01:10:35,601 --> 01:10:38,284 The smugglers find very creative ways 1094 01:10:38,367 --> 01:10:41,418 to trade the animals and to hide them. 1095 01:10:41,501 --> 01:10:44,551 So that's why the canine unit is amazing, 1096 01:10:44,634 --> 01:10:46,317 because you cannot fool a dog. 1097 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:47,284 You can fool people, 1098 01:10:47,367 --> 01:10:50,284 but the dogs, you can never fool them. 1099 01:10:50,367 --> 01:10:51,284 If there's animals there, 1100 01:10:51,367 --> 01:10:54,767 they will detect it and they will find them. 1101 01:10:55,567 --> 01:10:59,184 Most of the animals would come from far, you know? 1102 01:10:59,267 --> 01:11:00,584 Like, northern Sumatra. 1103 01:11:00,667 --> 01:11:03,151 - It's, like, 30 hours. - 30 hours? Wow. 1104 01:11:03,234 --> 01:11:05,217 So, often, when we do confiscate, 1105 01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:07,484 they come in a really bad condition. 1106 01:11:07,567 --> 01:11:09,484 Yeah. Like the big bust you did... 1107 01:11:09,567 --> 01:11:11,151 Yeah, when we had the big bust. 1108 01:11:11,234 --> 01:11:12,050 ...they were in poor condition. 1109 01:11:12,133 --> 01:11:12,551 Yeah. 1110 01:11:12,634 --> 01:11:14,751 He was stopped here. And he just kept driving. 1111 01:11:14,834 --> 01:11:16,151 And then they stopped him again. 1112 01:11:16,234 --> 01:11:20,200 And then they found 1,300 animals in the truck. 1113 01:11:22,868 --> 01:11:25,117 And then, to our big shock, 1114 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,584 we discovered all these African species, 1115 01:11:27,667 --> 01:11:29,050 including the meerkats. 1116 01:11:29,133 --> 01:11:33,117 And then there were also species from South America 1117 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,518 like marmosets, 1118 01:11:34,601 --> 01:11:36,518 grey parrots from Africa, 1119 01:11:36,601 --> 01:11:39,751 and there were wild Alexandrine parakeets 1120 01:11:39,834 --> 01:11:40,651 from Thailand, 1121 01:11:40,734 --> 01:11:42,117 all stacked together. 1122 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,584 It was a really shocking discovery. 1123 01:11:44,667 --> 01:11:45,785 And it also showed to us 1124 01:11:45,868 --> 01:11:50,551 how big and widespread this cruel wildlife trade is. 1125 01:11:50,634 --> 01:11:53,184 (LAUGHTER ON VIDEO) 1126 01:11:53,267 --> 01:11:55,751 FEMKE: It's not so much the small poachers in the field. 1127 01:11:55,834 --> 01:11:58,484 It's really the people that are ordering these animals 1128 01:11:58,567 --> 01:12:01,384 and it's the people that are keeping these animals as pets 1129 01:12:01,467 --> 01:12:04,684 that are the ones that are responsible 1130 01:12:04,767 --> 01:12:07,501 for most of the suffering. 1131 01:12:10,367 --> 01:12:13,634 (INDISTINCT CHATTER, ANIMAL NOISES) 1132 01:12:15,234 --> 01:12:17,584 FEMKE: Last year, we found two baby orangutans. 1133 01:12:17,667 --> 01:12:19,384 They should still be in the arms of their mothers, 1134 01:12:19,467 --> 01:12:26,551 and they were stacked under bananas and clothing and... 1135 01:12:26,634 --> 01:12:27,284 you know, stuff. 1136 01:12:27,367 --> 01:12:29,217 And there were these two baby orangutans, 1137 01:12:29,300 --> 01:12:34,551 so fragile and so innocent, you know? So... 1138 01:12:34,634 --> 01:12:36,851 It's really shocking. 1139 01:12:36,934 --> 01:12:39,400 It hurts. 1140 01:12:44,234 --> 01:12:49,000 It makes us really... It makes us angry. 1141 01:12:49,534 --> 01:12:55,267 The shit that people put these animals through. 1142 01:13:36,701 --> 01:13:39,667 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 1143 01:14:04,601 --> 01:14:06,400 WARREN: Oh... 1144 01:14:13,534 --> 01:14:16,317 What's the biggest animal you've operated on? 1145 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,551 - WOMAN: The biggest animal? - The biggest animal, yeah. 1146 01:14:19,634 --> 01:14:20,684 - Here? - Elephant? 1147 01:14:20,767 --> 01:14:23,551 - Mmm... Yeah, I think so. - What did you do? 1148 01:14:23,634 --> 01:14:26,518 I think, until now, it's a bear. 1149 01:14:26,601 --> 01:14:29,367 - A bear? - Yeah. 1150 01:14:33,767 --> 01:14:35,785 Rescuer of Erin. 1151 01:14:35,868 --> 01:14:37,618 WARREN: Ah, you're the rescuer? 1152 01:14:37,701 --> 01:14:39,751 - Beautiful. - Legend. 1153 01:14:39,834 --> 01:14:40,950 So it's tied to a tree. 1154 01:14:41,033 --> 01:14:44,217 And probably Erin was running around playing, 1155 01:14:44,300 --> 01:14:45,384 as young elephants do. 1156 01:14:45,467 --> 01:14:48,351 And then her trunk got entangled in this. 1157 01:14:48,434 --> 01:14:50,484 And then the more she pulls, the... 1158 01:14:50,567 --> 01:14:52,551 - WARREN: It goes tight, then? - Tighter. 1159 01:14:52,634 --> 01:14:55,000 It goes tight. Oh, OK. 1160 01:15:06,567 --> 01:15:09,317 FEMKE: When they found her, her trunk was already cut 1161 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:10,084 and the snare was gone. 1162 01:15:10,167 --> 01:15:13,684 The problem why this is happening is the ivory trade. 1163 01:15:13,767 --> 01:15:17,317 Yeah, I'd love to feed one. What do I do? 1164 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,284 One by one. One by one. 1165 01:15:19,367 --> 01:15:20,351 Just... Yes. 1166 01:15:20,434 --> 01:15:21,584 (BOTH LAUGH) 1167 01:15:21,667 --> 01:15:22,351 No way! 1168 01:15:22,434 --> 01:15:24,785 - From the left side. - Slowly, slowly. 1169 01:15:24,868 --> 01:15:26,050 (LAUGHTER) 1170 01:15:26,133 --> 01:15:28,484 Wow! 1171 01:15:28,567 --> 01:15:29,518 No way! 1172 01:15:29,601 --> 01:15:31,484 (LAUGHTER) 1173 01:15:31,567 --> 01:15:33,601 MAN: Go slow. 1174 01:15:34,467 --> 01:15:36,050 (WARREN LAUGHS) 1175 01:15:36,133 --> 01:15:38,351 Unbelievable, man. 1176 01:15:38,434 --> 01:15:39,050 Wow. 1177 01:15:39,133 --> 01:15:39,885 Thank you so much. 1178 01:15:39,968 --> 01:15:43,851 Really, thank you for everything that you're doing. 1179 01:15:43,934 --> 01:15:46,751 This is our god creature. 1180 01:15:46,834 --> 01:15:47,684 Yeah? 1181 01:15:47,767 --> 01:15:48,651 We need to keep, 1182 01:15:48,734 --> 01:15:50,384 because we declare that 1183 01:15:50,467 --> 01:15:55,885 a human is the cleverest creature in the world, 1184 01:15:55,968 --> 01:15:57,984 so we must take care. 1185 01:15:58,067 --> 01:15:59,351 Yeah, we owe it to them. 1186 01:15:59,434 --> 01:16:00,818 Yeah, we have to take care of them. 1187 01:16:00,901 --> 01:16:05,618 - Yes. - Because they can't survive. 1188 01:16:05,701 --> 01:16:07,851 Yeah. That's our responsibility as well. 1189 01:16:07,934 --> 01:16:10,567 Yeah, it's our responsibility. 1190 01:16:11,234 --> 01:16:12,684 So all of our friends here 1191 01:16:12,767 --> 01:16:15,718 are not only doing our job as usual, 1192 01:16:15,801 --> 01:16:19,384 but we work from deep from our heart. 1193 01:16:19,467 --> 01:16:22,000 - From here? - Yes. 1194 01:16:24,567 --> 01:16:25,384 Yeah, I feel that. 1195 01:16:25,467 --> 01:16:28,785 It's really strange because I've played music all my life, 1196 01:16:28,868 --> 01:16:30,684 and I really love animals, 1197 01:16:30,767 --> 01:16:33,151 but everybody I meet here 1198 01:16:33,234 --> 01:16:36,651 engages, with their heart. 1199 01:16:36,734 --> 01:16:38,851 It's so moving. 1200 01:16:38,934 --> 01:16:39,418 Yes. 1201 01:16:39,501 --> 01:16:42,851 And I see, the way I feel about playing music, 1202 01:16:42,934 --> 01:16:46,684 I see this with everybody I've encountered working here. 1203 01:16:46,767 --> 01:16:48,384 And it just blows my mind. 1204 01:16:48,467 --> 01:16:50,384 It blows my fucking little mind. 1205 01:16:50,467 --> 01:16:51,751 It's unbelievable. 1206 01:16:51,834 --> 01:16:55,885 To see the passion in you people. 1207 01:16:55,968 --> 01:16:58,467 Yeah. Fuck. 1208 01:16:58,567 --> 01:17:01,017 And you as well, you play your music 1209 01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:04,518 and you're connected to this conservation 1210 01:17:04,601 --> 01:17:08,418 that usually not many people try to look at. 1211 01:17:08,501 --> 01:17:10,734 That's very good. 1212 01:17:13,834 --> 01:17:18,133 (ENGINE APPROACHES) 1213 01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:23,684 Once, I tried to catch an eagle 1214 01:17:23,767 --> 01:17:25,651 and he got me through my hand, 1215 01:17:25,734 --> 01:17:29,117 and the nail came out at the other side. 1216 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,684 - The claw? - Yeah! The claw. 1217 01:17:30,767 --> 01:17:32,818 It went straight through, and I couldn't move 1218 01:17:32,901 --> 01:17:35,418 because if you then start to move or resist, 1219 01:17:35,501 --> 01:17:37,017 he would hold on more tight. 1220 01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:37,984 Yeah, Rio is an example of it. 1221 01:17:38,067 --> 01:17:42,050 Once, a rescued eagle got him, accidentally, on the head. 1222 01:17:42,133 --> 01:17:43,885 How old was Rio? 1223 01:17:43,968 --> 01:17:46,300 He was six. 1224 01:17:47,634 --> 01:17:48,684 Does he remember that? 1225 01:17:48,767 --> 01:17:49,984 - He does. - Yeah, he would, yeah. 1226 01:17:50,067 --> 01:17:51,950 And he proudly talks about it. 1227 01:17:52,033 --> 01:17:53,050 Yeah. As he should. 1228 01:17:53,133 --> 01:17:55,451 It's, you know, it's part of the process. 1229 01:17:55,534 --> 01:17:56,418 It's how we learn. 1230 01:17:56,501 --> 01:17:58,601 - What's that, an eagle? - An eagle? 1231 01:18:01,133 --> 01:18:03,217 That's a changeable hawk-eagle, just like this one. 1232 01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:07,117 I put that through stem of a champagne glass, 1233 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:08,484 - playing violin. - That's wild, too. 1234 01:18:08,567 --> 01:18:10,584 - Yeah, playing violin. - That's pretty wild, too. 1235 01:18:10,667 --> 01:18:12,684 Yeah, well... It's not like an eagle. 1236 01:18:12,767 --> 01:18:16,984 Has anyone been really hurt here doing this? 1237 01:18:17,067 --> 01:18:18,634 Um... 1238 01:18:23,167 --> 01:18:25,767 - Everybody. - Everyone? 1239 01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:30,968 (LAUGHTER) 1240 01:18:31,267 --> 01:18:33,251 I guess it's like skateboarding, isn't it? 1241 01:18:33,334 --> 01:18:35,917 You get on the board, you're going to break something. 1242 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,984 Yeah, if you work with wildlife, 1243 01:18:38,067 --> 01:18:40,701 there's a lot of risks. 1244 01:18:45,234 --> 01:18:46,651 WARREN: It really dawned on me 1245 01:18:46,734 --> 01:18:48,917 that in the Sumatra Wildlife Centre, 1246 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,117 there's this incredible sort of positive thing going on, 1247 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,751 because it's really just an intermediary stage 1248 01:18:56,834 --> 01:19:00,017 for these animals. The goal of the place is to liberate them, 1249 01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:02,551 it to give them their freedom back. 1250 01:19:02,634 --> 01:19:02,885 (CHIRPS) 1251 01:19:02,968 --> 01:19:05,317 And then I looked at the cages differently here, 1252 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,917 because the animals are moving through them. 1253 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,917 They're just passing through 1254 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,284 to get back to being released, 1255 01:19:12,367 --> 01:19:14,950 back to where they should be. 1256 01:19:15,033 --> 01:19:16,117 And I realised that 1257 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,618 that's the kind of nerve centre of the whole place. 1258 01:19:19,701 --> 01:19:22,434 That's the heart of the operation. 1259 01:19:23,901 --> 01:19:26,117 The park is not a zoo. 1260 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,217 It's a last resort. 1261 01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:30,885 It's actually trying to make good 1262 01:19:30,968 --> 01:19:32,184 a fucked situation. 1263 01:19:32,267 --> 01:19:33,984 They wish they could release Rina. 1264 01:19:34,067 --> 01:19:36,950 They wish they could release the bears, 1265 01:19:37,033 --> 01:19:39,100 but they can't. 1266 01:19:41,133 --> 01:19:45,551 The sad truth is that those animals can't go back 1267 01:19:45,634 --> 01:19:49,334 because they've just been abused too much. 1268 01:19:59,133 --> 01:20:02,851 FEMKE: As I've rescued many monkeys throughout the years, 1269 01:20:02,934 --> 01:20:03,618 different species, 1270 01:20:03,701 --> 01:20:07,785 I've never experienced such traumatised individuals 1271 01:20:07,868 --> 01:20:08,917 as the dancing monkeys. 1272 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,684 Dealing with them was really like 1273 01:20:10,767 --> 01:20:13,868 a whole new level of cruelty. 1274 01:20:13,968 --> 01:20:17,317 The first dancing monkey I've ever seen was Johnny. 1275 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,584 I was in Jakarta. Jakarta is very busy. 1276 01:20:19,667 --> 01:20:24,217 I was on my motorbike and I was at a traffic light, 1277 01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:26,651 and I heard this sort of a ting-tong! 1278 01:20:26,734 --> 01:20:31,167 Sort of music, like, they use a small drum. 1279 01:20:31,467 --> 01:20:33,284 And I looked, and there was a monkey there, 1280 01:20:33,367 --> 01:20:35,351 a macaque, long-tailed macaque. 1281 01:20:35,434 --> 01:20:38,618 And... he was dressed up. 1282 01:20:38,701 --> 01:20:40,785 And an adult long-tailed macaque 1283 01:20:40,868 --> 01:20:42,818 should be up in the trees. 1284 01:20:42,901 --> 01:20:44,751 It was just so horrific 1285 01:20:44,834 --> 01:20:46,984 to see him there on the side of the street, 1286 01:20:47,067 --> 01:20:48,317 in between motorbikes. 1287 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,834 He was begging for money. 1288 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,151 And I couldn't believe my eyes. 1289 01:20:53,234 --> 01:20:56,017 In the moment, what I wanted to do is just rescue him. 1290 01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:58,151 But you're not going to pay. I'm not going to pay. 1291 01:20:58,234 --> 01:21:00,418 I'm never, ever going to pay these people. 1292 01:21:00,501 --> 01:21:04,300 There's no... There's no point. 1293 01:21:05,267 --> 01:21:07,984 Monkeys are captured from the wild as babies 1294 01:21:08,067 --> 01:21:13,084 and then they are forced to entertain the public. 1295 01:21:13,167 --> 01:21:15,251 They are starved. They are beaten. 1296 01:21:15,334 --> 01:21:19,050 They are hanged. They are... tied up. 1297 01:21:19,133 --> 01:21:22,050 And they are made to stand the whole day 1298 01:21:22,133 --> 01:21:24,384 because they are teaching the monkeys 1299 01:21:24,467 --> 01:21:28,000 to walk like a human being. 1300 01:21:29,434 --> 01:21:31,017 So, in that moment, 1301 01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:33,117 when I saw him at the traffic light, 1302 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,050 I made the promise to him, 1303 01:21:34,133 --> 01:21:37,050 I'm going to come back one day and I'm going to rescue you. 1304 01:21:37,133 --> 01:21:39,117 I have no idea how, but I'm gonna... 1305 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,267 I was determined to stop the dancing monkeys. 1306 01:21:49,133 --> 01:21:52,467 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 1307 01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:32,217 WARREN: Why do you think people are so cruel to animals? 1308 01:22:32,300 --> 01:22:34,267 Ignorance. 1309 01:22:34,868 --> 01:22:39,117 I don't know. Do you think people actually get a kick out of it? 1310 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:39,785 I think so. 1311 01:22:39,868 --> 01:22:43,267 There's also people that get a kick out of it. 1312 01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:46,284 There's no compassion, no... 1313 01:22:46,367 --> 01:22:47,934 Yeah. 1314 01:22:48,868 --> 01:22:50,017 No... 1315 01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:51,885 Yeah, no compassion. 1316 01:22:51,968 --> 01:22:55,217 I've never been able to understand 1317 01:22:55,300 --> 01:22:59,317 how someone could be cruel to an animal. 1318 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,251 - A defenceless animal. - Yeah, defenceless. 1319 01:23:01,334 --> 01:23:04,451 That comes into the earth, and all it's got is its life. 1320 01:23:04,534 --> 01:23:07,050 FEMKE: And that's why I think it's so important 1321 01:23:07,133 --> 01:23:07,917 that we keep fighting, 1322 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,351 because, yeah, if we don't do what's right, 1323 01:23:11,434 --> 01:23:14,200 who's going to do it? 1324 01:23:30,968 --> 01:23:35,200 (INDISTINCT DISTANT SINGING AND BELLS) 1325 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,868 Hey! How are you? 1326 01:23:42,467 --> 01:23:43,518 That was amazing. 1327 01:23:43,601 --> 01:23:45,217 You could play for hours. 1328 01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:47,785 I was waiting for him to say stop. 1329 01:23:47,868 --> 01:23:50,601 Oh, he will never say stop. 1330 01:23:52,467 --> 01:23:56,434 (SINGING CONTINUES) 1331 01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:07,200 (INSECTS CHIRRUP, BIRDS CALL) 1332 01:24:12,567 --> 01:24:14,984 WARREN: See the volcano? 1333 01:24:15,067 --> 01:24:16,934 JUSTIN: Yeah. 1334 01:24:17,968 --> 01:24:20,567 - So beautiful. - Yeah. 1335 01:24:20,667 --> 01:24:23,317 Just hearing everything coming to life, eh? 1336 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:24,317 WARREN: Unbelievable. 1337 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,601 - (ANIMAL CALLS LOUDLY) - Wow, listen to that. 1338 01:24:27,701 --> 01:24:30,618 Apparently she hadn't sung for years. 1339 01:24:30,701 --> 01:24:32,217 She's locked up for... 1340 01:24:32,300 --> 01:24:34,484 23 years or something. 1341 01:24:34,567 --> 01:24:36,184 And she hadn't sung. 1342 01:24:36,267 --> 01:24:37,017 And they got her in here, 1343 01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:40,917 and after a week or so, she started up again. 1344 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,534 (CONTINUES CALLING) 1345 01:25:10,300 --> 01:25:12,484 So, I just had learned that... 1346 01:25:12,567 --> 01:25:14,117 Um... that, uh... 1347 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,284 the sort of idea is I release one of the birds. 1348 01:25:17,367 --> 01:25:18,317 Yeah, one of the eagles. 1349 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,885 And I feel really awkward about it. 1350 01:25:19,968 --> 01:25:20,384 Oh! 1351 01:25:20,467 --> 01:25:23,184 I kind of feel like I've just turned up to cut a ribbon. 1352 01:25:23,267 --> 01:25:24,151 No, don't feel like that. 1353 01:25:24,234 --> 01:25:25,418 It's a big moment for everybody, 1354 01:25:25,501 --> 01:25:28,651 and we're honoured if you release one of the birds 1355 01:25:28,734 --> 01:25:29,384 together with Rio. 1356 01:25:29,467 --> 01:25:30,885 He's excited to do it together with you. 1357 01:25:30,968 --> 01:25:34,117 And there's four birds that are going to go free today. 1358 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,084 OK, alright. 1359 01:25:35,167 --> 01:25:36,551 - Well... I feel better. - Yeah. 1360 01:25:36,634 --> 01:25:39,484 And you're just as part of the family as everybody else. 1361 01:25:39,567 --> 01:25:42,885 No, I totally feel that, but I just feel awkward. 1362 01:25:42,968 --> 01:25:46,950 I feel like I just don't want to be that guy. 1363 01:25:47,033 --> 01:25:48,117 But you're here now and you're part of it. 1364 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,451 JUSTIN: Was there one particular person that was looking after...? 1365 01:25:51,534 --> 01:25:52,618 - After the eagles? - This guy? 1366 01:25:52,701 --> 01:25:56,418 Well, Herman. Noval is observing them every day, 1367 01:25:56,501 --> 01:25:57,351 you know, just to get data. 1368 01:25:57,434 --> 01:26:00,184 He's releasing the eagles, he's releasing the eagles. 1369 01:26:00,267 --> 01:26:01,684 They're all releasing them together. 1370 01:26:01,767 --> 01:26:04,551 You guys are doing all the kind of... 1371 01:26:04,634 --> 01:26:07,251 You do all the heavy lifting and stuff, you know? 1372 01:26:07,334 --> 01:26:10,651 And it's just... I'm just so grateful to be involved, 1373 01:26:10,734 --> 01:26:12,618 in the way that I can. 1374 01:26:12,701 --> 01:26:15,451 So I just feel, you know, like... 1375 01:26:15,534 --> 01:26:18,984 Like I said, you're as part of the team 1376 01:26:19,067 --> 01:26:19,950 as everybody else here. 1377 01:26:20,033 --> 01:26:23,017 - You should feel like that. - Yeah, OK, thanks. 1378 01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:24,618 - Thanks. Um... - Yeah. 1379 01:26:24,701 --> 01:26:26,534 Alright. 1380 01:26:36,567 --> 01:26:40,767 (VOCALISES HIGH NOTES) 1381 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,551 This has really gone somewhere nice now, this piece. 1382 01:26:45,634 --> 01:26:49,718 It's really... from that little thing in the jungle, 1383 01:26:49,801 --> 01:26:51,251 to that. 1384 01:26:51,334 --> 01:26:53,501 It's cool. 1385 01:26:54,534 --> 01:26:57,667 (INDISTINCT) 1386 01:26:58,100 --> 01:27:00,284 - FEMKE: See you. - WARREN: See you, Captain. 1387 01:27:00,367 --> 01:27:01,518 FEMKE: Bye. 1388 01:27:01,601 --> 01:27:03,718 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1389 01:27:03,801 --> 01:27:05,651 FEMKE: Darno built this bridge. 1390 01:27:05,734 --> 01:27:07,451 WARREN: That doesn't surprise me. 1391 01:27:07,534 --> 01:27:08,584 FEMKE: Yeah, it's incredible. 1392 01:27:08,667 --> 01:27:10,284 WARREN: Does Darno build everything? 1393 01:27:10,367 --> 01:27:11,551 FEMKE: He builds everything. 1394 01:27:11,634 --> 01:27:13,017 WARREN: Where did you meet? 1395 01:27:13,100 --> 01:27:15,484 FEMKE: At the rescue centre in Jakarta, 1396 01:27:15,567 --> 01:27:16,217 next to the airport. 1397 01:27:16,300 --> 01:27:18,618 He was working there, welding all the cages. 1398 01:27:18,701 --> 01:27:21,217 And then we received a baby orangutan 1399 01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:22,151 and he was holding it - 1400 01:27:22,234 --> 01:27:25,117 this big guy, holding this baby orangutan. 1401 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:25,751 It was just so... 1402 01:27:25,834 --> 01:27:29,284 Anyway, yeah. So, ever since, we're together. 1403 01:27:29,367 --> 01:27:30,785 WARREN: How long is that? 1404 01:27:30,868 --> 01:27:32,584 FEMKE: We met in 2003. 1405 01:27:32,667 --> 01:27:34,084 WARREN: Yeah. 20 years. 1406 01:27:34,167 --> 01:27:36,434 - FEMKE: Yeah, 20 years. 1407 01:27:36,667 --> 01:27:37,751 How do you smuggle an eagle? 1408 01:27:37,834 --> 01:27:42,017 FEMKE: Oh, we had eagles coming in inside watermelons 1409 01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:44,050 that were trapped at the airport. 1410 01:27:44,133 --> 01:27:44,384 No! 1411 01:27:44,467 --> 01:27:45,017 Yeah. 1412 01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:47,518 We had eagles in pipes, PVC pipes. 1413 01:27:47,601 --> 01:27:49,117 Are they drugged, or are they...? 1414 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,317 FEMKE: No, because it's dark and they can't move, 1415 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,017 they just stay calm and still. 1416 01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:56,050 Many will arrive dead, for sure. 1417 01:27:56,133 --> 01:27:57,151 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1418 01:27:57,234 --> 01:28:01,251 But even if they smuggle out 10, and one survives, 1419 01:28:01,334 --> 01:28:02,484 for them, that's enough money 1420 01:28:02,567 --> 01:28:07,251 because there's these amazing, idiotic, selfish people around 1421 01:28:07,334 --> 01:28:09,300 that pay the money. 1422 01:28:09,367 --> 01:28:12,934 If they would stop, these animals are safe. 1423 01:28:13,901 --> 01:28:17,584 And if you see them flying, that's what it's all about. 1424 01:28:17,667 --> 01:28:21,300 They're so beautiful up in the sky. 1425 01:28:25,634 --> 01:28:29,117 So, Warren, sometimes we would make a pre-release cage. 1426 01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,684 These birds, we're just gonna open the wooden box 1427 01:28:31,767 --> 01:28:35,518 and give him the chance to fly it when it wants. 1428 01:28:35,601 --> 01:28:37,418 I'd love to. What a privilege. 1429 01:28:37,501 --> 01:28:38,818 - Yeah, let's do it. - OK. 1430 01:28:38,901 --> 01:28:39,718 Do it together. 1431 01:28:39,801 --> 01:28:44,667 (PLAYS PIANO MELODY OVER SYNTH MUSIC WITH RESONATING, SLOW BEAT) 1432 01:29:09,467 --> 01:29:12,734 (CHEERING) 1433 01:29:35,534 --> 01:29:37,151 FEMKE: This one is a very special one. 1434 01:29:37,234 --> 01:29:39,451 - WARREN: Amazing. - It's a migratory bird. 1435 01:29:39,534 --> 01:29:42,551 So they only travel through this area. 1436 01:29:42,634 --> 01:29:44,184 So we had to wait one year 1437 01:29:44,267 --> 01:29:47,300 before we could release this bird. 1438 01:29:47,868 --> 01:29:52,267 (MUSIC SWELLS) 1439 01:30:16,501 --> 01:30:19,934 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 1440 01:30:49,267 --> 01:30:51,834 (CHEERING) 1441 01:31:13,634 --> 01:31:16,334 (CHEERING) 1442 01:31:31,534 --> 01:31:35,467 (MUSIC QUIETENS) 1443 01:31:37,467 --> 01:31:40,901 (PLAYS VIOLIN WITHOUT BACKING) 1444 01:31:49,634 --> 01:31:52,618 I think the other one was better. 1445 01:31:52,701 --> 01:31:56,384 (KEYBOARD PLAYS) 1446 01:31:56,467 --> 01:31:58,418 OK. 1447 01:31:58,501 --> 01:31:59,651 Let's not use the Hammond. 1448 01:31:59,734 --> 01:32:01,818 It sounds a bit like a Ferris... 1449 01:32:01,901 --> 01:32:03,651 It sounds a bit like a carnival. 1450 01:32:03,734 --> 01:32:05,100 MAN: A what? 1451 01:32:06,601 --> 01:32:08,084 But the piano's good. 1452 01:32:08,167 --> 01:32:11,818 (SYNTH MELODY PLAYS) 1453 01:32:11,901 --> 01:32:14,718 (INDISTINCT) 1454 01:32:14,801 --> 01:32:16,451 (SYNTH MELODY PLAYS) 1455 01:32:16,534 --> 01:32:17,451 Perfect! 1456 01:32:17,534 --> 01:32:19,351 Fuck! What a genius, dude! 1457 01:32:19,434 --> 01:32:22,601 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 1458 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,384 (DESCENDING, LOW GLISSANDO) 1459 01:32:26,467 --> 01:32:28,033 Yeah, there we go. 1460 01:32:29,033 --> 01:32:30,885 You're serious, eh? 1461 01:32:30,968 --> 01:32:32,950 - Huh? - For that as the end. 1462 01:32:33,033 --> 01:32:33,451 Yeah. 1463 01:32:33,534 --> 01:32:36,317 You can go home and show your brother a trick or two. 1464 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:37,734 I will. 1465 01:32:50,501 --> 01:32:53,651 WARREN: I had a talk this morning to Femke, 1466 01:32:53,734 --> 01:32:58,033 and I wanted her to know that, um... 1467 01:33:01,801 --> 01:33:03,818 ...the best thing for them 1468 01:33:03,901 --> 01:33:05,518 is that they're left alone 1469 01:33:05,601 --> 01:33:09,950 to do what they do so amazingly. 1470 01:33:10,033 --> 01:33:14,518 Her, and the people who work here. 1471 01:33:14,601 --> 01:33:15,984 Ultimately, it's about... 1472 01:33:16,067 --> 01:33:19,351 It's just about them and the animals. 1473 01:33:19,434 --> 01:33:22,734 (DISTANT SINGING) 1474 01:33:28,567 --> 01:33:30,518 WARREN: We're sitting here this morning 1475 01:33:30,601 --> 01:33:32,418 and we clinked coconuts 1476 01:33:32,501 --> 01:33:36,418 because we want to get to more land. 1477 01:33:36,501 --> 01:33:38,518 And, to celebrate, 1478 01:33:38,601 --> 01:33:41,451 Darno climbed a fucking coconut tree, 1479 01:33:41,534 --> 01:33:44,518 pulled them down, hacked the top off, 1480 01:33:44,601 --> 01:33:45,917 and we clinked coconuts 1481 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,885 to, hopefully, expanding the place here a bit more 1482 01:33:49,968 --> 01:33:51,885 and providing the kind of protection. 1483 01:33:51,968 --> 01:33:54,618 But that feels like the future, there. 1484 01:33:54,701 --> 01:33:57,484 And here I see faith and I see hope 1485 01:33:57,567 --> 01:33:58,684 and I see compassion. 1486 01:33:58,767 --> 01:34:03,701 I see love. I see care. I see respect. 1487 01:34:04,667 --> 01:34:07,050 I see all these values 1488 01:34:07,133 --> 01:34:09,984 that it's taken me a long time, as a person, 1489 01:34:10,067 --> 01:34:13,217 to try and come to terms with, 1490 01:34:13,300 --> 01:34:14,785 or implement in my life. 1491 01:34:14,868 --> 01:34:15,950 And I think that's the thing 1492 01:34:16,033 --> 01:34:18,618 that's really hit me about being here, 1493 01:34:18,701 --> 01:34:19,885 really profoundly, 1494 01:34:19,968 --> 01:34:22,618 that, here, I see it in action. 1495 01:34:22,701 --> 01:34:25,851 And I see that it works. 1496 01:34:25,934 --> 01:34:27,117 I'll share it with you. 1497 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:28,851 - Yeah. - Yeah, you have the first one. 1498 01:34:28,934 --> 01:34:30,084 No, no, no. Please, please. 1499 01:34:30,167 --> 01:34:32,184 - You take the first one. - RIO: I'll take the meat! 1500 01:34:32,267 --> 01:34:33,117 Yeah, take the meat. 1501 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,751 I've dedicated what I can to this. 1502 01:34:35,834 --> 01:34:39,834 I think I always had, but now I really have. 1503 01:34:41,567 --> 01:34:43,200 Because... 1504 01:34:43,634 --> 01:34:47,084 I mean, you know, it's because of who you people are. 1505 01:34:47,167 --> 01:34:52,050 And you're proof that people can be awesome, 1506 01:34:52,133 --> 01:34:52,950 and that people care. 1507 01:34:53,033 --> 01:34:56,518 (I WISH I KNEW HOW IT WOULD FEEL TO BE FREE BY NINA SIMONE PLAYS) 1508 01:34:56,601 --> 01:34:59,518 (LAUGHS) Stop. 1509 01:34:59,601 --> 01:35:01,167 Cheers. 1510 01:35:03,601 --> 01:35:06,084 (INDISTINCT) 1511 01:35:06,167 --> 01:35:09,701 - Cheers, Femke. - Cheers, Warren. (LAUGHS) 1512 01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:15,718 - I love you very much. - Love you too. 1513 01:35:15,801 --> 01:35:16,251 Alright. 1514 01:35:16,334 --> 01:35:19,667 - Thank you so much. - Thank you. 1515 01:35:20,234 --> 01:35:23,551 - I'll see you real soon. - Yeah. 1516 01:35:23,634 --> 01:35:26,033 Thank you so much. 1517 01:35:27,767 --> 01:35:30,017 Thank you so much for your support. 1518 01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:34,033 Thank you. Thank you, brother. 1519 01:35:34,934 --> 01:35:35,718 Oh, fuck! 1520 01:35:35,801 --> 01:35:37,050 Oh, stop, please. Stop. Hang on. 1521 01:35:37,133 --> 01:35:40,334 Fuck. I forgot to give her the fucking gum. 1522 01:35:41,968 --> 01:35:43,184 Rio. 1523 01:35:43,267 --> 01:35:45,718 Give this to your mum. 1524 01:35:45,801 --> 01:35:48,701 Alright? Take that. 1525 01:35:49,801 --> 01:35:52,200 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 1526 01:35:54,100 --> 01:35:56,050 For me? 1527 01:35:56,133 --> 01:35:57,718 - No. - Yeah. 1528 01:35:57,801 --> 01:35:58,751 And that one? 1529 01:35:58,834 --> 01:36:00,984 That's the box for it. 1530 01:36:01,067 --> 01:36:02,434 Eh? 1531 01:36:05,901 --> 01:36:07,834 That's incredible. 1532 01:36:13,267 --> 01:36:15,950 Treasure. Treasure box. 1533 01:36:16,033 --> 01:36:17,934 This is incredible. 1534 01:36:20,367 --> 01:36:24,618 ♪ Though I'm way overdue 1535 01:36:24,701 --> 01:36:28,017 ♪ I'd be starting anew 1536 01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:35,984 ♪ Well, I wish I could be like a bird in the sky 1537 01:36:36,067 --> 01:36:43,651 ♪ How sweet it would be if I found I could fly 1538 01:36:43,734 --> 01:36:51,217 ♪ Oh, I'd soar to the sun and look down at the sea 1539 01:36:51,300 --> 01:36:55,284 ♪ Then I'd sing 'cause I'd know, yeah 1540 01:36:55,367 --> 01:36:59,351 ♪ Then I'd sing 'cause I'd know, yeah 1541 01:36:59,434 --> 01:37:02,917 ♪ Then I'd sing 'cause I'd know 1542 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,251 ♪ I'd know how it feels 1543 01:37:05,334 --> 01:37:11,017 ♪ I'd know how it feels to be free, yeah, yeah 1544 01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:14,418 ♪ Oh, I'd know how it feels 1545 01:37:14,501 --> 01:37:20,217 ♪ Yes, I'd know, I'd know how it feels 1546 01:37:20,300 --> 01:37:27,267 ♪ How it feels to be free, Lord, Lord, Lord, yeah... ♪ 1547 01:37:31,067 --> 01:37:32,117 Yeah, when I moved in, 1548 01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,651 I had that photo of a dead horse, 1549 01:37:34,734 --> 01:37:36,684 and Dad in a bed. 1550 01:37:36,767 --> 01:37:37,818 (LAUGHS) 1551 01:37:37,901 --> 01:37:41,251 They're in a Fresh Seal Clips, 1552 01:37:41,334 --> 01:37:45,151 still with the avocado sticker on them, 1553 01:37:45,234 --> 01:37:47,251 and wrapped in Glad Wrap. 1554 01:37:47,334 --> 01:37:48,084 JUSTIN: That's perfect. 1555 01:37:48,167 --> 01:37:53,151 And it had this really sobering note from the crematorium - 1556 01:37:53,234 --> 01:37:55,284 "This is the last mortal remains 1557 01:37:55,367 --> 01:37:57,084 "of the late John Hunt Ellis. 1558 01:37:57,167 --> 01:37:58,785 "They were placed into container, 1559 01:37:58,868 --> 01:37:59,818 "and we verified that, 1560 01:37:59,901 --> 01:38:02,084 "at the time it left this establishment, 1561 01:38:02,167 --> 01:38:05,351 "the container only held the cremated human remains 1562 01:38:05,434 --> 01:38:07,184 "of the late John Hunt Ellis." 1563 01:38:07,267 --> 01:38:10,251 The day that he died, a chaplain came around 1564 01:38:10,334 --> 01:38:16,984 and asked if I wanted to do the last rites. 1565 01:38:17,067 --> 01:38:19,217 His priest from his church came in, 1566 01:38:19,300 --> 01:38:24,785 and that was an extraordinary experience, 1567 01:38:24,868 --> 01:38:26,984 and my brother turned up, my older brother. 1568 01:38:27,067 --> 01:38:30,351 The priest came and started doing the holy water, 1569 01:38:30,434 --> 01:38:33,785 and, you know, the oil - 1570 01:38:33,868 --> 01:38:35,818 anointing his head and stuff like this. 1571 01:38:35,901 --> 01:38:39,718 As our Lord has taught us, we are confident to say 1572 01:38:39,801 --> 01:38:40,917 our Father... 1573 01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,684 And we said the Lord's Prayer. 1574 01:38:42,767 --> 01:38:46,084 And I started... I could hear my voice. 1575 01:38:46,167 --> 01:38:47,885 I could hear Steven's voice. 1576 01:38:47,968 --> 01:38:49,851 And I could hear my dad's voice, 1577 01:38:49,934 --> 01:38:51,984 because my dad always read that to us, 1578 01:38:52,067 --> 01:38:53,785 said it to us every night, as kids. 1579 01:38:53,868 --> 01:38:56,785 I reached over and grabbed his hand, 1580 01:38:56,868 --> 01:38:57,418 like that, 1581 01:38:57,501 --> 01:38:59,885 so we made this circle with Dad. 1582 01:38:59,968 --> 01:39:05,351 And this energy just went out of control. 1583 01:39:05,434 --> 01:39:07,885 It was just like this... (IMITATES ELECTRICITY BUZZING) 1584 01:39:07,968 --> 01:39:11,284 And my brother just looked at me and goes, 1585 01:39:11,367 --> 01:39:14,317 "Did you fucking feel that?" 1586 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,317 And I said, "I did feel that." 1587 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,317 He looked at the guy and he goes, 1588 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:20,885 "Vicar, how'd you do that?" 1589 01:39:20,968 --> 01:39:24,300 The priest just goes, "I didn't do that." 1590 01:39:24,868 --> 01:39:28,885 And then he looked at me, and he goes, 1591 01:39:28,968 --> 01:39:31,317 "You know who did that?" 1592 01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:32,484 And I was like... 1593 01:39:32,567 --> 01:39:35,151 He goes, "The old man did that." 1594 01:39:35,234 --> 01:39:39,818 He goes, "The old man took us where he's going." 1595 01:39:39,901 --> 01:39:44,067 He said, "Boys, it's going to be alright. 1596 01:39:45,501 --> 01:39:47,785 This is what it's like. 1597 01:39:47,868 --> 01:39:49,484 Took us to the edge, 1598 01:39:49,567 --> 01:39:52,534 And then said, "Go back." 1599 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:58,418 So, you know, I believe my father's, 1600 01:39:58,501 --> 01:40:02,384 you know, final gift to us 1601 01:40:02,467 --> 01:40:08,084 was to bring God into that... hospital room, 1602 01:40:08,167 --> 01:40:10,117 this little... 1603 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,234 Room in Ballarat. 1604 01:40:12,968 --> 01:40:15,050 And then Steven goes to me, 1605 01:40:15,133 --> 01:40:18,267 "You know what that was like?" 1606 01:40:20,467 --> 01:40:21,284 He said, 1607 01:40:21,367 --> 01:40:24,885 "That's like when we saw those clowns 1608 01:40:24,968 --> 01:40:26,984 "when we were kids." 1609 01:40:27,067 --> 01:40:31,000 (KIDS CHATTER INDISTINCTLY) 1610 01:40:34,267 --> 01:40:37,984 (INDISTINCT SINGING) 1611 01:40:38,067 --> 01:40:41,467 (KIDS CONTINUE CHATTING IN OWN LANGUAGE) 1612 01:40:59,334 --> 01:41:02,818 WARREN: Oh, actually, I'll just say one more little thing. 1613 01:41:02,901 --> 01:41:04,251 I talk too much, but... I'll just... 1614 01:41:04,334 --> 01:41:06,551 - One little bit at the start. - MAN: OK, Warren. 1615 01:41:06,634 --> 01:41:08,217 - WARREN: OK? MAN 2: Watch what you say. 1616 01:41:08,300 --> 01:41:11,467 WARREN: Tell me when you're rolling. Are we on? 1617 01:41:11,734 --> 01:41:13,851 Uh, hey, ladies and gentlemen, 1618 01:41:13,934 --> 01:41:15,317 this is Warren Ellis here, 1619 01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:16,851 listening to the radio show. 1620 01:41:16,934 --> 01:41:19,917 And, um, this is a song my dad used to sing to me 1621 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:20,384 when I was a kid. 1622 01:41:20,467 --> 01:41:22,584 This is called Mis'ry Is My Middle Name, 1623 01:41:22,667 --> 01:41:24,518 written by screamin' Johnny Ellis. 1624 01:41:24,601 --> 01:41:28,484 And this is the reason I am what I am today. 1625 01:41:28,567 --> 01:41:30,984 (COUNTRY GUITAR PLAYS) 1626 01:41:31,067 --> 01:41:35,117 JOHN: ♪ Well, you're looking at a man that's mighty sad 1627 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:39,117 ♪ 'Cause misery and tears is all I've ever had 1628 01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:42,584 ♪ I've found it's true what someone once said 1629 01:41:42,667 --> 01:41:46,885 ♪ A man that loves a woman is better off dead 1630 01:41:46,968 --> 01:41:49,418 ♪ Mis'ry is my middle name 1631 01:41:49,501 --> 01:41:52,184 ♪ And I've earned it for knowing such pain 1632 01:41:52,267 --> 01:41:57,151 - WARREN: ♪ Well, I used to love a woman down in the town - JOHN: ♪ Did you? 1633 01:41:57,234 --> 01:42:01,017 ♪ In my little buggy with her, touring round 1634 01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:04,251 ♪ Right through the summer, she loved me good 1635 01:42:04,334 --> 01:42:07,984 ♪ She left me in the winter with a leaking hood 1636 01:42:08,067 --> 01:42:11,317 BOTH: ♪ Mis'ry is my middle name 1637 01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:15,251 ♪ And I've earnt it for knowing such pain 1638 01:42:15,334 --> 01:42:17,151 JOHN: Play it, you little bugger! 1639 01:42:17,234 --> 01:42:20,300 (VIOLIN SOLO) 1640 01:42:25,434 --> 01:42:27,567 WARREN: I'm dancing! 1641 01:42:30,567 --> 01:42:34,200 (VIOLIN CONTINUES) 1642 01:42:36,067 --> 01:42:36,718 Yeah, Dad, tell me! 1643 01:42:36,801 --> 01:42:39,584 JOHN: ♪ Well, lovin' a woman sure ain't no joke 1644 01:42:39,667 --> 01:42:40,651 WARREN: ♪ That's no joke 1645 01:42:40,734 --> 01:42:43,284 JOHN: ♪ You never have no fun and you wind up broke 1646 01:42:43,367 --> 01:42:47,584 - ♪ Lovin' that girl, well, I must have been mad - ♪ I must have! 1647 01:42:47,667 --> 01:42:51,217 JOHN: ♪ A dog's the only friend a man ever had 1648 01:42:51,300 --> 01:42:54,217 BOTH: ♪ Mis'ry is my middle name 1649 01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:58,017 JOHN: ♪ And I've earnt it for knowing such pain 1650 01:42:58,100 --> 01:43:02,184 WARREN: ♪ Well, I'm gonna find a dog that's feelin' blue 1651 01:43:02,267 --> 01:43:05,718 ♪ He'll bite everybody and he'll bite me too 1652 01:43:05,801 --> 01:43:09,384 ♪ Covered with mange and loads of fleas 1653 01:43:09,467 --> 01:43:13,351 ♪ He'll have about as many friends as me 1654 01:43:13,434 --> 01:43:16,184 BOTH: ♪ Mis'ry is my middle name 1655 01:43:16,267 --> 01:43:20,351 ♪ And I've earnt it for knowing such pain 1656 01:43:20,434 --> 01:43:23,050 WARREN: Yeah, give me some pain. 1657 01:43:23,133 --> 01:43:24,151 ♪ Oh! 1658 01:43:24,234 --> 01:43:27,684 (GUITAR SOLO) 1659 01:43:27,767 --> 01:43:29,501 ♪ Hey-oh! 1660 01:43:30,767 --> 01:43:32,234 ♪ Oh! 1661 01:43:41,501 --> 01:43:43,684 BOTH: ♪ Well, you're looking at a man 1662 01:43:43,767 --> 01:43:45,084 ♪ That's mighty sad 1663 01:43:45,167 --> 01:43:48,751 ♪ 'Cause misery and tears are all I've ever had 1664 01:43:48,834 --> 01:43:52,384 ♪ I've found it's true what someone once said 1665 01:43:52,467 --> 01:43:56,751 ♪ A man that loves a woman is better off dead 1666 01:43:56,834 --> 01:43:59,284 ♪ Mis'ry's my middle name 1667 01:43:59,367 --> 01:44:04,767 ♪ And I've earnt it for knowing such pain. ♪ 1668 01:44:05,634 --> 01:44:08,151 (MUSIC ENDS, APPLAUSE) 1669 01:44:08,234 --> 01:44:09,901 WARREN: That's a hit. 1670 01:44:12,534 --> 01:44:15,400 How'd it sound in there, Andy?