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[reel whirring]

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[gentle music plays]

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I want a car.

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I wanna be with the man I love.
I wanna get married in church in white.

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I want children. I want to adopt.

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I wanna be a professional model
behind cameras in a high-fashion world.

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I want this. This is what I want.

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And I'm gonna go for it.

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["Strut" by Elohim
and Big Freedia playing]

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♪ Strut, strut, strut, strut ♪

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♪ Strut, strut, strut, strut ♪

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♪ Fuck the sidewalk ♪

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♪ It's a runway ♪

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♪ Fuck the sidewalk ♪

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♪ It's a runway… ♪

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[person 1] Venus is iconic.

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You wanna talk about reading?

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[Joe] She's so famous, man.

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Let's talk about reading.

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[Louie] My sister was Venus Xtravaganza.

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[all] Xtravaganza power!

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[Gisele] Our House is our family.

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[person 2] There you go.

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[John] Venus was our family.

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-[Joe] She'll always be a Pellagatti.
-[John] We had each other's back.

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[John] I protected
all my brothers and sisters.

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Your family loves you.

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♪ Fuck the Hilton, it's the Waldorf… ♪

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[Gisele] I protect my kids
because that's my family.

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[person 3] If you walk into the 7-Eleven,

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you better make
that motherfucker look like the runway.

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[person 4] We have stood the test of time.

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♪ Strut, strut… ♪

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[person 5] Xtravaganza!

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♪ Strut, strut, strut, strut ♪

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♪ Strut, strut… ♪

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[Joe] I am Pellagatti.

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♪ Strut, strut, strut, strut, strut… ♪

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[Joe] So I used to work over there.

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After work, we'd always cruise around
and have the top down,

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checking out, you know,
some of the ladies.

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So I'd pass the red light over here

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on Montgomery and Marin,

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and as I… as I'm driving down the block,

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right over there, I see a blonde.

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Pretty sexy.

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I roll the windows down, and as I pull up,

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the girl turns around and looks at me,

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and it's my sister Venus.

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[chuckles] And I was like, "No."

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And when she seen me,
she took her high heels off,

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and she made a mad dash.

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I see her going down the PATH station.
I try to get down there.

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She jumps the turnstile.

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Train comes, jumps in the train.

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I miss her, so I come back. [laughs]
And I see my friend Sam.

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I said, "You didn't see that, right?"
He goes, "I didn't see nothing." [laughs]

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So I was like, "Okay."

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Spoke to my grandmother.

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I was like,
"Gran, you know… dresses up like a woman?"

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"Ah, mijo, where you been?"

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"She's been dressing up like a woman
for years." I'm like, "News to me."

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Newsflash.

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The funny thing was
when she took her shoes off.

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She's got some wheels on her.

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[soft music playing]

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[Joe] I am Venus' older brother,
second in the family.

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I try to keep to myself.
I'm, uh, from the old school.

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My brother John is the oldest,
and he tried to keep everybody in line.

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And then Louie is the youngest.

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It was a different time.

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Everybody was trying
to be a macho guy, you know.

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But Venus was different
from day one. From day one.

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She didn't play ball
like me and my brothers did. You know?

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She was dancing on a corner
with my ex-girlfriends. [chuckles]

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I just wish, you know,
you can go back in time

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and have a crystal ball and see, you know,

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what was gonna happen.

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[soft music continues]

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[music fades]

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[Louie] There's a lot of people
in here that aren't with us anymore.

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-Look--
-[Joe] Where'd you get that?

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-I have this in my stuff from Mommy.
-Okay.

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-[Joe] That's Venus.
-[Louie] Look at the hair.

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-I remember the hair dryers going.
-[Joe] Yep.

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[Louie] Mm. How--

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[Joe] You can see
the resemblance in a Pellagatti face.

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-[Louie] Look at that.
-Right?

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[Louie] Always looking good.

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-Always dancing, and she was so popular.
-Yeah.

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-[Louie] I remember.
-[John] She was not a good…

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-Like in grammar school. Yeah.
-[John] Great dancer.

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She was ahead of her time for sure.

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[Louie] They're the times
that I… I… I cherish, you know,

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because them other times,

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I gotta tell you, like,
it just was really difficult because…

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Our parents.

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That's-- It seemed like when you guys
would leave the house for a couple days,

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it gave Hoppy like a… a license

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to get fucking ripped
out of his mind, you know.

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-[John] Yeah.
-Hoppy was our stepdad.

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I didn't put up with no shit from him.

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"Fuck you," I used to tell him.
Even at a young age.

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-I'll never forget the time… [laughs]
-[John] Yeah.

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We had bunk beds,

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so I was on the top,
and John was on the bottom.

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-He was like, "Fuck him."
-[John] Yeah.

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"But he's not my father. Fuck him."

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And Mommy just had enough, dude.
She came in the room, grabbed John.

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John had an Afro back then. Big Afro.

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On the radiator, yeah,
she was banging my head.

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[Joe] She dragged him out of the bed.
I'm like, "John, shut up."

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-[John] Yeah.
-He wouldn't shut up.

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I looked at the vodka bottle one day,
I said, "You really love this shit."

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I fucking bashed him
right over the head with it.

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Mommy-- Mommy went nuts,
threw me out of the house.

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I think that's the reason why
Mommy moved to California.

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-It was getting physical.
-[John] I told him, "I'm gonna kill you."

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-[Joe] So, Venus…
-Kept quiet, goes to the corner.

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She kept quiet,
and she really didn't come out

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until my mother moved to California.

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Yeah.

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-[Louie] But I think…
-We knew she was gay.

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-[Louie] Everybody knew.
-We didn't know she was trans.

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So we didn't…

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-We couldn't comprehend that in 1980.
-[Louie] Eighty.

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-Eighty-one.
-I went ballistic on her, I did.

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I remember I picked her up
by her ankles and turned her upside down.

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"There's something wrong with you.
You're out of your fucking mind."

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[John coughs]

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[Louie] For me, when I seen,

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in Paris Is Burning,
my sister explain in her words,

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"All I wanna do is be loved,
and be married,

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and have a house
with a white picket fence."

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When I heard that,
it started making sense.

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But when we found out
about how she was taken from us,

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that brought a lot of anger.

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Yeah.

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[John] I'll tell you what got it started,
to be honest with you,

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is when that fucking asshole
did that thing, uh…

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He did an off-Broadway play,

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Solve the Mystery:
Murder of Venus Xtravaganza.

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So that kind of opened up some wounds,
and that's when we said,

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"There's gotta be something
we can do better than this bullshit."

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We always knew what happened,
where it happened, when it happened.

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-[Joe] At least we thought.
-We thought. But we didn't know who.

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Cold cases have been happening now
for years.

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What if there's DNA?

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-[Joe] Yeah.
-If that's possible.

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[Joe] This is long overdue,

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but I know
the Xtravaganzas are still around.

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-You know?
-Yeah.

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What's the chances you're gonna meet
people that knew her over there?

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-It's very slim.
-[Louie] Thin.

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-Yeah, but you never know.
-[Joe] You never know.

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Because of who she was,

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I think we'll be able
to get people to help us, you know?

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-She deserves it. Venus deserves it.
-[Joe] I agree.

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-Yeah.
-[John] Do what we gotta do.

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[gentle music playing]

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[Venus] Well, I always knew
I was going to become a girl.

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Ever since the age
of maybe seven or eight years old,

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I always felt
like I wanted to be a pretty lady,

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and I wanted to do…

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fashion shows.

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But for those who can't accept me…

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I guess it's
just because they refuse to see it,

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and they don't wanna understand it.

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[music continues]

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[Pepper] A House?

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They're families. You can say that.

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They're families for a lot of children
who don't have families.

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When someone has rejection
from their mother and father,

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their family, when they get out
in the world, they search.

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They search for someone to fill that void.

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I know this from experience,

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because I've had kids come to me

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and latch hold of me
like I'm their mother.

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My mother is Angie Xtravaganza,
and my father is David Xtravaganza.

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[Venus] I had just turned 15 years old,

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and they all liked me,
all the rest of the Xtravaganzas.

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And they decided,
"If you wanna become an Xtravaganza,

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you have to walk a ball first,

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and if you snatch a trophy,
then you can become the Xtravaganza.

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The society, going
to a football game, basketball,

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that's their entertainment.

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You know, a ball is ours.
We prepare for a ball.

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We may spend more time
preparing for a ball

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than anybody would spend
preparing for anything else.

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-[person] Exactly. So true.
-The ball is our world.

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[uplifting music playing]

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[music fades]

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[dance music playing on phone]

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[Amara] See how she's turning to the side?
Don't look to the side, Chi.

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-Your eyes should never go to the side.
-You should be…

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The trick of everything is your eyes.

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[Gisele] Forget about the walk,
about everything.

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It's your energy, and it's…

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All of this.

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Juan, bring it!

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[clapping]

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[vocalizing]

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Give me, give me, give me one!

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[Gisele vocalizing]

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Attitude. Yes.

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Give me tens across the board.

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♪ Syd Xtravaganza? ♪

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♪ Syd Xtrava… X, what? Xtravaganza! ♪

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[vocalizing]

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♪ Steph Xtravaganza, Steph Xtravaganza ♪

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♪ Derrick, Derrick, Derrick Xtravaganza ♪

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♪ Derrick, Derrick, Derrick Xtravaganza ♪

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♪ Derrick, Derrick, yeah! ♪

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Yes!

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[all cheering]

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[all] ♪ Mother! ♪

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♪ Mother! Mother! ♪

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♪ Xtravaganza! ♪

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♪ Mother! ♪

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Okay, y'all was ready
for the ball with the last one.

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[all chattering]

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[soft music playing]

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[Gisele] I came into
the House of Xtravaganza in 1999.

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But I was 15 years old
when I first seen Paris Is Burning

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at my trans brother's house.

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It was a turning point in my life.

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Venus's story is our story.

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I never got to meet her, but I feel her.

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[music continues]

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[Gisele] There's been many times
that I almost lost my life,

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and I'm still here.

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I'm just lucky.

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I've cried so much,
I'm tired of crying. It's time for doing.

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[music fades]

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[Jillian] I never got to meet Venus.

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I was born seven years
after she was murdered.

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-[elevator] Seventh floor.
-Okay, Jill.

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[Jillian] What I know of her is, you know,
through my family and through a screen.

241
00:14:32,121 --> 00:14:35,457
[Joe] She's probably up there saying,
"What took you so friggin' long?"

242
00:14:35,541 --> 00:14:36,458
"It's about time."

243
00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:40,754
Hopefully, she's guiding
a lot of the stuff that's going on here,

244
00:14:40,838 --> 00:14:43,173
which I believe she really is.

245
00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:47,219
To bring the team together
that is moving this forward.

246
00:14:47,303 --> 00:14:49,013
-Jillian.
-[Jillian] Hello.

247
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[Gisele] I finally get to meet you
in person.

248
00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:53,267
Hi.

249
00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,645
-[Gisele] Hi.
-It's so wonderful to meet you.

250
00:14:57,187 --> 00:14:59,648
[Gisele] It's so wonderful
to meet you too.

251
00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:00,816
Hi, I'm Joe.

252
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,110
-Yes, how are you?
-Pleasure's mine. How are you?

253
00:15:03,193 --> 00:15:06,071
-The pleasure likewise.
-Nice to finally meet you.

254
00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:08,365
[Gisele] This is an amazing…

255
00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:10,910
[Joe] Yeah. We have a million questions.

256
00:15:10,993 --> 00:15:12,828
-[Gisele] Yeah? John?
-[John] How you doing?

257
00:15:12,912 --> 00:15:14,747
I'm good. Nice to meet you.

258
00:15:14,830 --> 00:15:18,375
Nice to meet you too.
It's really, really nice of you to come.

259
00:15:18,459 --> 00:15:21,253
I'm really, really thinking
of my sister right now.

260
00:15:21,337 --> 00:15:22,171
And…

261
00:15:23,380 --> 00:15:26,216
[clears throat] …it's a little emotional.

262
00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,094
-I can imagine, you know.
-[John] Yeah.

263
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There was a perception out there
that we didn't care about her,

264
00:15:33,974 --> 00:15:35,893
which was so far from the truth.

265
00:15:36,477 --> 00:15:39,772
Yeah, I heard
some stories of the family, you know,

266
00:15:39,855 --> 00:15:44,193
but you never know
until you speak to the family in person.

267
00:15:44,276 --> 00:15:45,903
And Louie said it best too.

268
00:15:45,986 --> 00:15:49,573
Louie said, "Listen,
that's Venus' other family." So…

269
00:15:49,657 --> 00:15:54,286
[Joe] We think it's very important
that the House is involved

270
00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:55,996
with everything that's going on.

271
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Venus was not the only one
murdered in this House.

272
00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:04,964
This is one of the reasons I wanted
to do this because it'll open up the door

273
00:16:05,047 --> 00:16:07,925
for other girls to get their cases solved.

274
00:16:08,592 --> 00:16:12,179
To see family members
caring about that is very powerful.

275
00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:16,100
-Yeah.
-You know, there's a saying, um…

276
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"Sometimes things fall apart

277
00:16:19,853 --> 00:16:21,605
so they can fall together."

278
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And that's what we're trying to do.

279
00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:26,568
[Gisele] Okay. Sit anywhere?

280
00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:27,611
[man] Wherever you want.

281
00:16:28,779 --> 00:16:30,698
[Joe] Hey. How are you doing?

282
00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:34,994
Gisele, that's our baby brother, Louie.

283
00:16:35,077 --> 00:16:36,453
Hi, baby brother Louie.

284
00:16:36,537 --> 00:16:39,456
Good morning, Gisele.
Very… very nice to meet you.

285
00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,210
-Thanks for coming in.
-Thank you for what you're doing.

286
00:16:43,961 --> 00:16:48,298
We know that you have been trying
to reopen the investigation

287
00:16:48,382 --> 00:16:52,636
into your sister's murder
and, if possible, get a copy of the case.

288
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,848
But you've been running into roadblocks
with the New York Police Department.

289
00:16:55,931 --> 00:16:57,266
Monster roadblocks.

290
00:16:57,349 --> 00:17:03,689
I'm a little bit surprised because NYPD
is generally very victim-family friendly.

291
00:17:04,273 --> 00:17:07,443
They're not a customer service agency
by any stretch of the imagination,

292
00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:11,488
but when it comes to victims'
family members, they're usually great.

293
00:17:11,572 --> 00:17:16,243
We never got
anything back of hers ever, ever!

294
00:17:16,326 --> 00:17:19,121
-I--
-The only thing I got back was her body.

295
00:17:19,621 --> 00:17:21,123
Right. So…

296
00:17:21,206 --> 00:17:25,169
-[Joe] So they still have the file, right?
-[Jim] Absolutely. Yes.

297
00:17:25,836 --> 00:17:27,588
[Joe] I want to see them documents.

298
00:17:28,213 --> 00:17:32,426
We're hoping to help facilitate that
and, if necessary, file litigation

299
00:17:32,509 --> 00:17:35,596
and ask a court to authorize disclosure
of the case file for you.

300
00:17:36,597 --> 00:17:39,058
The case file
should have the investigative steps

301
00:17:39,141 --> 00:17:43,520
that detectives had taken at the time,
if there was any DNA recovered,

302
00:17:43,604 --> 00:17:48,150
if there was any sort of suspects
they had that they may have spoken to,

303
00:17:48,650 --> 00:17:52,237
and what they did to wrap up,
if they wrapped up the investigation.

304
00:17:52,321 --> 00:17:54,698
Wow. What a… Amazing.

305
00:17:55,199 --> 00:17:57,159
[Jim] They will give us
the file at the end,

306
00:17:57,242 --> 00:17:59,119
and I will be able to walk you through it

307
00:17:59,203 --> 00:18:02,581
and hopefully give you guys
the closure that you deserve.

308
00:18:02,664 --> 00:18:06,043
Yeah. That's what we want.
That's the bottom line.

309
00:18:06,543 --> 00:18:11,381
I got more answers
from this guy in… in two days

310
00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:13,050
than I did in 30 fucking years.

311
00:18:13,133 --> 00:18:15,010
And excuse my language, please.

312
00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,805
[Joe] Oh. There's always one character
in the family.

313
00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:19,515
[both chuckling]

314
00:18:19,598 --> 00:18:20,641
That's all right.

315
00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:22,726
[solemn music playing]

316
00:18:31,276 --> 00:18:32,152
Come on.

317
00:18:33,987 --> 00:18:35,989
This is, uh…
this is where it all began for me.

318
00:18:36,073 --> 00:18:39,952
Right on this corner.
What's up, buddy? How are you doing?

319
00:18:40,035 --> 00:18:41,370
-[man] All right.
-Good. Good.

320
00:18:43,831 --> 00:18:46,708
-[John] Paying attention? Okay.
-[Mike] I'm paying attention.

321
00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:49,545
Watch this. I'm gonna show you
how nuts this was.

322
00:18:50,546 --> 00:18:54,091
-Aunt Priscilla was here, 342.
-Yeah, all right. Huh.

323
00:18:54,174 --> 00:18:56,718
Three-forty-three and a half was Meemaw.

324
00:18:56,802 --> 00:19:00,055
-[Mike] The Puerto Rican side.
-[John] That's the Puerto Rican side, yes.

325
00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:04,518
And that's where they filmed
Paris Is Burning. Right there, inside.

326
00:19:04,601 --> 00:19:08,105
And that's where Venus used to watch you
when I used to sleep at night.

327
00:19:09,189 --> 00:19:11,275
Over here, that's where we lived.

328
00:19:12,442 --> 00:19:17,030
Me, Uncle Joe,
Uncle Louie, and Uncle Frankie.

329
00:19:17,781 --> 00:19:21,827
Venus was there for a little bit, but then
she went across the street to Grandma's.

330
00:19:22,536 --> 00:19:24,288
Right here. All my family.

331
00:19:24,371 --> 00:19:28,709
My aunts, my uncles,
my cousins, my friends.

332
00:19:29,209 --> 00:19:31,837
All of us. Come on,
I'm gonna show you Grandma's house.

333
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,839
Crazy.

334
00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,176
[reel whirring]

335
00:19:37,885 --> 00:19:41,847
[Venus] I live here
in Jersey City with my grandmother.

336
00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:45,767
She's the closest thing
that I have to me in my family.

337
00:19:45,851 --> 00:19:48,562
She has taken care of me all my life,

338
00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:51,481
ever since, you could say,
almost childbirth.

339
00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:55,402
And, um, I'm her baby.

340
00:19:56,987 --> 00:19:58,614
She's overprotective of me,

341
00:19:59,239 --> 00:20:01,992
and, uh, she doesn't like me
to be around men.

342
00:20:02,492 --> 00:20:04,995
[chuckles] She doesn't like me
to have boyfriends,

343
00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:07,915
because she thinks
that they're all gonna use me

344
00:20:07,998 --> 00:20:11,919
and take advantage of me
and get me in trouble and make me suffer.

345
00:20:12,002 --> 00:20:14,004
[gentle music playing]

346
00:20:21,553 --> 00:20:22,596
[Joe] Look at that.

347
00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:27,476
She was styling, man.

348
00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:33,982
She looks angry.

349
00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:38,237
Like, "What am I doing here?
I'm supposed to be a woman." You know?

350
00:20:41,949 --> 00:20:44,868
And then, how about that?

351
00:20:46,578 --> 00:20:48,664
"Jersey City Public Library."

352
00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:55,003
Um… "November 17, 1988."

353
00:20:56,546 --> 00:21:00,217
She just got this card
before she was murdered.

354
00:21:02,427 --> 00:21:04,763
They have her given name on here.

355
00:21:05,514 --> 00:21:06,473
Not "Venus."

356
00:21:07,975 --> 00:21:09,977
[music continues]

357
00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:13,814
[Joe] She hated that.

358
00:21:15,148 --> 00:21:17,484
Her deadname is also on her tombstone,

359
00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:21,697
which my brothers
and I are hopefully changing it.

360
00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:27,828
[Joe exhales deeply]

361
00:21:28,662 --> 00:21:29,538
All right.

362
00:21:35,043 --> 00:21:35,961
Good stuff.

363
00:21:37,129 --> 00:21:38,046
[sniffs]

364
00:21:44,928 --> 00:21:46,221
[music fades]

365
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:48,432
[Louie] I'm gonna pull over right up here

366
00:21:49,850 --> 00:21:51,435
and shut my truck off.

367
00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:53,937
How long are we gonna be
on this video? Do you know?

368
00:21:54,021 --> 00:21:55,230
[Joe] Not too long.

369
00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:59,443
The reason why I'm calling you is
because I got this mail, you know,

370
00:21:59,526 --> 00:22:01,987
from New York State Vital Statistics.

371
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:03,613
-You know?
-Right.

372
00:22:04,489 --> 00:22:07,284
-[Joe] Ready? You wanna open it?
-[John] No, you can open it.

373
00:22:09,494 --> 00:22:10,871
[Louie] How's the weather there?

374
00:22:10,954 --> 00:22:12,331
-Beautiful today.
-Nice.

375
00:22:12,914 --> 00:22:14,583
[Louie] Yeah. Yeah.

376
00:22:15,375 --> 00:22:17,127
[Joe] Oh. I think this is it, bro.

377
00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:19,546
This is definitely it.

378
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:22,424
Check it out.

379
00:22:23,091 --> 00:22:24,676
[John] Let me see this.

380
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,346
[Louie] Wow.
That's what we've been waiting for.

381
00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:29,431
Yeah, I got two of them. Look, brother.

382
00:22:31,558 --> 00:22:34,227
[Louie] What's it say on the top?
"Certificate of…"

383
00:22:34,311 --> 00:22:37,522
"The City of New York.
Vital records certificate."

384
00:22:37,606 --> 00:22:38,690
[John] You got glasses.

385
00:22:38,774 --> 00:22:43,362
Uh, "Vital Records, Department of Health,
Borough of Manhattan." Wow.

386
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:45,447
[Louie] Go ahead.

387
00:22:45,530 --> 00:22:47,282
[Joe] So, "Name of the deceased…"

388
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:48,742
[melancholy music plays]

389
00:22:48,825 --> 00:22:49,659
"…Pellagatti."

390
00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:52,704
-They spelled the name wrong.
-[John] Motherfuckers.

391
00:22:52,788 --> 00:22:54,915
[Joe] "December 21st, 1988."

392
00:22:55,749 --> 00:22:57,959
I think that's
when they pronounced her dead.

393
00:22:58,752 --> 00:23:02,339
Yeah, so the location,
"264 West 46th Street."

394
00:23:02,422 --> 00:23:03,673
"Strangulation."

395
00:23:04,174 --> 00:23:06,593
-Yeah.
-[John] It's… [splutters]

396
00:23:06,676 --> 00:23:10,931
You know what? I… I don't want to…
It's just fucking miserable.

397
00:23:11,014 --> 00:23:14,601
[Louie] Does this help
if we were talking about trying to get

398
00:23:14,684 --> 00:23:16,478
a name change or anything?

399
00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:18,772
-Does that help?
-[Joe] Absolutely, it would help.

400
00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:21,691
This is a bunch
of information that we need.

401
00:23:23,568 --> 00:23:26,613
-The detectives didn't tell us anything.
-[John] No.

402
00:23:26,696 --> 00:23:28,156
So it was like this big mystery.

403
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,118
[John] Yeah. "It's under investigation."
They didn't care.

404
00:23:32,619 --> 00:23:33,453
Yeah.

405
00:23:33,537 --> 00:23:34,913
[music continues]

406
00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:42,796
This fucking sucks though,
looking at that. [clears throat]

407
00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:47,342
Somebody got away with murder,
and that just don't sit well with me.

408
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:58,562
[Celeste] So, uh, we spoke on Zoom.

409
00:23:58,645 --> 00:24:01,690
I wanna make sure that what I got
from you is where we're going,

410
00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:03,900
which is you had a sister, Venus,

411
00:24:03,984 --> 00:24:08,530
and she is no longer with us,
and she hasn't been since 1988?

412
00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:09,448
[Joe] Correct.

413
00:24:09,531 --> 00:24:12,909
[Celeste] She was a transgender woman,
and she also has a House family.

414
00:24:12,993 --> 00:24:16,580
And so both you and you folks
and the House family are on the same page

415
00:24:16,663 --> 00:24:19,583
that you'd like to get
a posthumous name change,

416
00:24:19,666 --> 00:24:23,253
like a fancy word for "now that she's
no longer with us, get her name changed."

417
00:24:23,336 --> 00:24:26,423
Correct. Because she was
taken away from us so early,

418
00:24:26,506 --> 00:24:31,136
us, as her surviving siblings,
decided that,

419
00:24:31,219 --> 00:24:33,722
"You know what?
We're gonna do something in her honor

420
00:24:33,805 --> 00:24:36,641
and give her
what she would have done anyway,

421
00:24:36,725 --> 00:24:38,894
and that's to change her name."

422
00:24:38,977 --> 00:24:39,895
She was Venus.

423
00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:40,979
[John] Yeah.

424
00:24:41,062 --> 00:24:44,816
So once you get a legal name change,
you get a certified copy.

425
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:48,862
And then if there's anything else that has
her name on it that you want to change,

426
00:24:48,945 --> 00:24:52,657
it shouldn't be an issue to take
that golden ticket copy of an order

427
00:24:52,741 --> 00:24:54,826
and show it
to anybody who needs to see it and say,

428
00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:56,536
"Hey, this is actually her name."

429
00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:59,122
"We need to correct
whatever it is we need to correct."

430
00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:00,165
[Joe] That's great.

431
00:25:00,248 --> 00:25:02,250
Part of my concern, although I'm excited,

432
00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:05,712
is who's gonna come out of the woodwork
and have a problem with this?

433
00:25:05,795 --> 00:25:09,508
Maybe it goes super smoothly,
and then maybe it's a shit show.

434
00:25:09,591 --> 00:25:11,134
But either way, we figure it out.

435
00:25:11,218 --> 00:25:13,345
[Joe] This wasn't easy
for us to do as a family.

436
00:25:13,428 --> 00:25:16,181
-[John] Yes.
-[Joe] I have a business, a corporation.

437
00:25:16,264 --> 00:25:21,436
Is this gonna affect me getting a job
because Venus was my sister?

438
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,313
I mean, and those people are out there.

439
00:25:23,396 --> 00:25:24,648
-[John] Yeah.
-They're out there.

440
00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:28,527
Understand the gravity, and I understand
that that is exactly why we're doing this.

441
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:33,114
But what you feel about what could
potentially happen to your business

442
00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:35,450
is why people stay in the closet.

443
00:25:40,247 --> 00:25:42,249
[Jillian] It's not easy
to take on this system,

444
00:25:42,332 --> 00:25:45,585
but just the very first paragraph
on the page is…

445
00:25:47,796 --> 00:25:49,506
-[Joe] Powerful, right?
-Yes.

446
00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:51,550
So, "Scope of representation."

447
00:25:52,509 --> 00:25:55,720
"You are seeking a posthumous
name change for your sibling,

448
00:25:55,804 --> 00:26:00,559
Venus Pellagatti Xtravaganza,
in order to affirm her gender identity."

449
00:26:01,601 --> 00:26:07,148
"You understand that to the knowledge
of the attorney responsible at TAA,

450
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:09,276
this has never been attempted
in New Jersey,

451
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,445
and there is
no established procedure for the same."

452
00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:16,866
"TAA has undertaken
this representation of you

453
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:18,493
in order to advance the rights

454
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,496
of transgender
and non-binary New Jerseyans."

455
00:26:22,497 --> 00:26:24,165
"This is impact litigation

456
00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,085
because its reach may extend
beyond your family."

457
00:26:29,296 --> 00:26:31,548
It's kind of exciting thinking that,

458
00:26:31,631 --> 00:26:34,718
"Oh my God, I think
we're gonna be bringing some awareness

459
00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:36,011
and possibly some change."

460
00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:37,095
[car honking]

461
00:26:37,178 --> 00:26:39,139
It's a green light. It's a green light.

462
00:26:39,806 --> 00:26:40,724
[Jillian chuckles]

463
00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:44,436
Oh man.

464
00:26:45,478 --> 00:26:47,272
Bringing out the Jersey City in me.

465
00:26:47,355 --> 00:26:48,940
[both laugh]

466
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:54,279
[police sirens wailing]

467
00:26:57,324 --> 00:27:00,452
[Sean] When I learned
about O'Shae's murder earlier this week,

468
00:27:00,535 --> 00:27:01,620
I was overwhelmed.

469
00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:06,041
Angry that another one
of our brothers had to die.

470
00:27:06,916 --> 00:27:11,755
O'Shae was a core part of the young,
thriving LGBTQ community here in New York.

471
00:27:11,838 --> 00:27:13,340
He represented the best of us.

472
00:27:14,049 --> 00:27:18,053
He was creative, upbeat, and brought out
the best in those around him

473
00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:21,640
and frequently expressed
his love of life through fucking dance.

474
00:27:22,849 --> 00:27:25,352
That was no different
on the night he was murdered.

475
00:27:26,728 --> 00:27:31,024
Having to grieve the loss
of a community member over and over again.

476
00:27:31,107 --> 00:27:31,983
This shit is tiresome.

477
00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:33,777
[all applauding]

478
00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:35,195
[person] Amen.

479
00:27:35,278 --> 00:27:38,031
[Sean] I wanna recognize
everyone for coming out,

480
00:27:38,114 --> 00:27:40,742
coming together to create a safe space

481
00:27:41,242 --> 00:27:43,536
where we attempt to process and heal.

482
00:27:45,246 --> 00:27:46,915
Voguing is not a crime.

483
00:27:46,998 --> 00:27:48,625
[all] Voguing is not a crime.

484
00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:50,752
[yelling] Voguing is not a crime!

485
00:27:50,835 --> 00:27:52,879
[all] Voguing is not a crime!

486
00:27:52,962 --> 00:27:55,465
[yelling] Voguing is not a crime!

487
00:27:55,548 --> 00:27:58,176
[all] Voguing is not a crime!

488
00:27:58,259 --> 00:28:00,428
So today, we will vogue
in honor of O'Shae.

489
00:28:00,512 --> 00:28:02,263
[all cheering]

490
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:03,807
[upbeat music plays]

491
00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:06,142
-[Qween Jean] Say his name!
-[all] O'Shae!

492
00:28:06,226 --> 00:28:08,311
-[Qween Jean] Say his name!
-[all] O'Shae!

493
00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:10,105
-[Qween Jean] Say his name!
-[all] O'Shae!

494
00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:12,232
-[Qween Jean] Say his name!
-[all] O'Shae!

495
00:28:12,315 --> 00:28:14,150
-[Qween Jean] Say his name!
-[all] O'Shae!

496
00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,111
-[Qween Jean] Say his name!
-[all] O'Shae!

497
00:28:16,194 --> 00:28:19,823
[Qween Jean] ♪ Voguing is not a crime
Voguing is not a crime ♪

498
00:28:19,906 --> 00:28:21,324
♪ Voguing is not a crime ♪

499
00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:23,702
[all] ♪ Voguing is not a crime ♪

500
00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:27,247
[all] ♪ Voguing is not a crime
Voguing is not a crime ♪

501
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:31,251
♪ Voguing is not a crime
Voguing is not a crime ♪

502
00:28:31,334 --> 00:28:33,503
[music continues]

503
00:28:33,586 --> 00:28:37,340
♪ Voguing is not a crime
Voguing is not a crime ♪

504
00:28:37,424 --> 00:28:39,384
♪ Voguing is not a crime ♪

505
00:28:39,467 --> 00:28:41,469
[all cheering]

506
00:28:51,646 --> 00:28:53,064
[music fades]

507
00:28:56,109 --> 00:28:58,111
[Gia] I grew up in a world

508
00:28:58,194 --> 00:29:01,197
where I thought
that I was the only person like me.

509
00:29:01,281 --> 00:29:03,491
-[John] Good.
-How are you?

510
00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:07,036
[Gia] Venus was confidence personified,

511
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,456
and I'm thankful that she shared her story

512
00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:12,083
because it provided me
the tools that I needed

513
00:29:12,167 --> 00:29:14,127
to be able to share mine one day.

514
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:15,754
Oftentimes you don't get a chance.

515
00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:18,214
You have your heroes in community,

516
00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:21,176
and you don't get a chance
to meet their biological family.

517
00:29:21,259 --> 00:29:22,385
She was fierce.

518
00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:25,013
-Yes. She was.
-She was. She was before her time.

519
00:29:25,096 --> 00:29:26,014
Yes. Yes.

520
00:29:26,097 --> 00:29:29,100
[John] And we were fortunate enough
to live with her for many…

521
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:31,019
We were her siblings, so…

522
00:29:33,855 --> 00:29:38,318
[Louie] So this person loved Venus
as much as we all did and suffered.

523
00:29:38,401 --> 00:29:40,195
[John] Maybe we can put him at ease.

524
00:29:41,404 --> 00:29:43,031
-Hey.
-Hey, I'm Louie.

525
00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:45,950
-José. Nice to meet you.
-Hey, José. I'm Joe.

526
00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:47,869
-[José] Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you.

527
00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:49,537
-[in Spanish] How are you?
-Good. Thanks.

528
00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:50,622
Sit down.

529
00:29:51,623 --> 00:29:53,500
[in English] Thanks for being here
with us, José.

530
00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:55,084
Appreciate you calling, man.

531
00:29:55,168 --> 00:29:56,878
We appreciate meeting you.

532
00:29:59,088 --> 00:30:03,468
I've often wondered what I would say
to you guys when I met you in person.

533
00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:06,179
Um…

534
00:30:09,974 --> 00:30:11,935
Venus was, um…

535
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:16,189
She was my House sister and my niece.

536
00:30:18,191 --> 00:30:20,527
She was beautiful. She was a free spirit.

537
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,030
She was funny. She was feisty too.

538
00:30:29,118 --> 00:30:30,829
She was comfortable with who she was.

539
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:37,585
And families don't realize
the damage that they do.

540
00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:43,925
The House of Xtravaganza was composed…

541
00:30:47,428 --> 00:30:51,224
of people who were scarred
because of their family's neglect.

542
00:30:54,143 --> 00:30:55,353
Venus was one of those.

543
00:30:59,899 --> 00:31:04,362
I have found peace in my life.
I have made peace with a lot of things.

544
00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:07,949
Thirty years ago, I wouldn't be so sure

545
00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:10,618
that this would go as civil as it's going.

546
00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:11,995
And I'll be honest.

547
00:31:12,078 --> 00:31:16,416
Because I held a lot of resentment

548
00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:20,628
just from talking to Venus

549
00:31:20,712 --> 00:31:24,090
and the pain that she felt.

550
00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:31,848
She… she had bad things
to say about her family?

551
00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:37,896
-[José] Not bad things, per se.
-Because I find that hard to believe.

552
00:31:38,479 --> 00:31:39,564
-Really?
-[Joe] Yeah.

553
00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:40,648
How so?

554
00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:44,235
[Joe] Because, you know,
we come from a broken family.

555
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:45,904
Mother and Father split up.

556
00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:48,114
Um…

557
00:31:48,197 --> 00:31:50,450
-Venus lived with my grandmother.
-[John] She did.

558
00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:52,785
My grandmother was like her mom.

559
00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:57,832
She didn't feel that love
from the rest of her family.

560
00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:03,254
-[John] Her brothers or her family per se?
-[Joe] He's saying everybody.

561
00:32:03,338 --> 00:32:04,422
Oh.

562
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:10,553
Yeah, and that's probably the reason
why she went and explored a new family

563
00:32:10,637 --> 00:32:13,222
with the Xtravaganzas. Right?

564
00:32:13,306 --> 00:32:14,265
Right.

565
00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:18,978
I could only say, like,
I don't blame Venus

566
00:32:19,062 --> 00:32:21,481
because where was she getting her love?

567
00:32:21,564 --> 00:32:26,778
Where was she getting her recognition
and her prize and her flowers, you know?

568
00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:30,448
But I also have to say, like,

569
00:32:30,531 --> 00:32:36,704
that I will stand here
and say, like, "I love my sister."

570
00:32:37,246 --> 00:32:40,333
-You know?
-It wasn't that you guys didn't love her.

571
00:32:40,416 --> 00:32:43,878
[John] I'm sure she came and bitched
and moaned because I gave her hell.

572
00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:47,423
Part of it may have been true,
but that she felt rejected…

573
00:32:47,924 --> 00:32:50,176
-That's understood.
-[Joe] Yeah.

574
00:32:50,259 --> 00:32:53,054
But I knew Venus before she was Venus,

575
00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:55,515
you know, as her little baby brother.

576
00:32:55,598 --> 00:33:00,228
I have that deep, you know,
bond of a sibling.

577
00:33:01,479 --> 00:33:02,480
Okay?

578
00:33:02,563 --> 00:33:03,982
[voice breaking] That was…

579
00:33:05,608 --> 00:33:06,693
That was real.

580
00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:12,699
And sure, at the time, maybe things
came out where it was confusing.

581
00:33:12,782 --> 00:33:16,452
You know, how can I understand something
I know nothing about?

582
00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:22,583
But I understand her pain because
how much she loved us and her family

583
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,335
and how she must have felt.

584
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:26,295
And that breaks my heart too.

585
00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:29,841
Because who did this to my sister

586
00:33:30,341 --> 00:33:31,551
stole her from you

587
00:33:32,593 --> 00:33:34,137
and stole her from us.

588
00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:37,807
And I… I am truly sorry for your pain.

589
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:40,810
But I know one thing.

590
00:33:40,893 --> 00:33:44,939
I will stand with my brothers
and say, "We loved our sister."

591
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,570
Maybe we didn't know how to really
show it the way she needed it.

592
00:33:50,653 --> 00:33:52,071
I'll live with that.

593
00:33:52,155 --> 00:33:56,534
But as I stand here today,
I'm gonna say how much I loved her

594
00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,037
and mean it from the bottom of my heart.

595
00:34:00,329 --> 00:34:03,541
And I believe you.
You know why? Because you're here.

596
00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:07,462
-It means a lot.
-[Louie] And in life, we evolve.

597
00:34:07,545 --> 00:34:09,255
-Right or wrong?
-[José] Yeah, we do.

598
00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:12,341
-Absolutely.
-[Louie] Evolution. We all have to.

599
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:29,108
So this used to be her neighborhood.

600
00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:30,860
-Yeah.
-Yeah.

601
00:34:32,028 --> 00:34:34,572
[Gisele] To be here
is very personal to me.

602
00:34:34,655 --> 00:34:38,993
Diving into who Venus is
and what she went through.

603
00:34:40,828 --> 00:34:42,288
[Gisele] Here it is, 343 and a half.

604
00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:44,832
-[Michael] Oh Jesus.
-[Gisele] Are you serious? And a half.

605
00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:46,584
-[Michael] And a half.
-And a half.

606
00:34:46,667 --> 00:34:48,836
-Point-five.
-Oh, wow.

607
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,963
[gentle music playing]

608
00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:54,509
-[Gisele] So this used to be…
-So this is the house where she lived.

609
00:34:55,093 --> 00:34:56,886
-[Gisele] Oh wow.
-[Michael] Was nurtured.

610
00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:05,728
[Maximo] It's wild to be here
34 years after she's murdered.

611
00:35:05,812 --> 00:35:08,981
And so much has changed,
but at the same time,

612
00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:10,817
so much has not changed.

613
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:15,113
To be Puerto Rican, Italian, and trans,

614
00:35:15,196 --> 00:35:16,489
what it meant.

615
00:35:16,572 --> 00:35:19,659
What her home meant as a sanctuary, right?

616
00:35:19,742 --> 00:35:23,496
What her bedroom meant
as a space that she could envision

617
00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:26,624
that one day
someone like you could be possible.

618
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:30,795
Yeah. How important this is.

619
00:35:30,878 --> 00:35:33,631
-[Gisele] Yeah, I love this.
-This is so important.

620
00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:36,509
-[Maximo] We know this is important.
-[Michael] Right.

621
00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:41,514
But for it to be recognized
by the other communities…

622
00:35:41,597 --> 00:35:42,765
[Gisele] Absolutely.

623
00:35:44,058 --> 00:35:45,768
[Maximo] How can we landmark this?

624
00:35:46,435 --> 00:35:48,646
[Gisele] We need to make
those conversations happen.

625
00:35:48,729 --> 00:35:49,689
Yes.

626
00:35:50,606 --> 00:35:52,525
[Maximo] Oh, look at all the Xs.

627
00:35:52,608 --> 00:35:55,945
-[Gisele] Okay.
-[Maximo] Xtravaganza!

628
00:35:56,028 --> 00:35:56,988
[Michael] Okay.

629
00:35:57,071 --> 00:35:58,531
[music continues]

630
00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:01,784
[Gisele] "What's the matter, Pedro?"

631
00:36:01,868 --> 00:36:04,579
-"You going through it?"
-"Are you going through it?"

632
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,290
What is wrong with you, Pedro?
Are you going through it?

633
00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:10,751
You're going through some kind
of psychological change in your life?

634
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:14,755
-She went back to being a man.
-You went back to being a man?

635
00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:17,133
Touch this skin, darling.

636
00:36:17,216 --> 00:36:18,593
Touch this skin, honey.

637
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:20,678
Touch all of this skin.

638
00:36:20,761 --> 00:36:23,639
Okay? You just can't take it.

639
00:36:23,723 --> 00:36:25,224
[music fades]

640
00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:41,574
I am looking for a bag
that I placed here many years ago.

641
00:36:44,327 --> 00:36:47,371
You know, I had my spikes in it.
I had baseball gloves in it.

642
00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:52,043
I had shit from California,

643
00:36:52,543 --> 00:36:57,131
where I played baseball,
and I had photos of my dad

644
00:36:57,215 --> 00:37:00,009
and the gift I had for Venus

645
00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:02,428
for Christmas.

646
00:37:04,180 --> 00:37:07,975
The first women item
that I ever got for her.

647
00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:13,064
It was a Halston bottle for women.

648
00:37:14,565 --> 00:37:15,816
It was a perfume spray.

649
00:37:18,194 --> 00:37:19,195
Halston.

650
00:37:19,278 --> 00:37:23,366
I don't know if they still make it,
but, you know, we had no money.

651
00:37:23,449 --> 00:37:28,412
But I had a few bucks then.
So she would have liked it.

652
00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:33,000
I had it wrapped up,
put it under the tree, and then…

653
00:37:35,294 --> 00:37:38,297
the unfortunate thing happened.

654
00:37:40,049 --> 00:37:41,550
We had no Christmas that year.

655
00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:43,886
[soft music plays]

656
00:37:52,061 --> 00:37:54,313
[Joe] I would always talk to her
and tell her,

657
00:37:54,397 --> 00:37:56,357
"Please, be careful out there."

658
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,903
"It's crazy. You're in New York."
You know, cocaine wars.

659
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:03,447
And it was… it was very scary.

660
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,325
[woman] Seventeen hundred
and thirty-four people

661
00:38:06,409 --> 00:38:08,369
have been killed in New York this year.

662
00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:11,664
[man 1] New York City had
its highest homicide rate ever in 1980,

663
00:38:12,248 --> 00:38:13,666
and that has renewed calls…

664
00:38:13,749 --> 00:38:15,501
[man 2] Since crack has been around

665
00:38:15,584 --> 00:38:17,878
and has turned the streets
into shooting galleries,

666
00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:20,881
crime, including murder
and other violent crimes,

667
00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:22,800
has just skyrocketed.

668
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:26,804
We're scared to ride the trains
in the day. We don't ride them at night.

669
00:38:26,887 --> 00:38:28,889
[music continues]

670
00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:37,857
[Venus] I was with a guy,
and he touched me down there.

671
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:41,152
He felt it, and he seen it,
and he totally flipped out.

672
00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:45,072
He said, "You fucking faggot.
You're a freak."

673
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:47,908
"You're a victim of AIDS,
and you're trying to give me AIDS."

674
00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:50,870
"What are you, crazy?
You're a homo. I should kill you."

675
00:38:50,953 --> 00:38:52,747
You know, stuff like that.

676
00:38:53,247 --> 00:38:58,544
And, like, I was really terrified,
so I just jumped out the window.

677
00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:01,589
I grabbed my bag
and just jumped out the window.

678
00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:04,717
[Angie] She was like my right hand,
as far as I'm concerned.

679
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,219
I miss her.
Every time I go anywhere, I miss her.

680
00:39:07,303 --> 00:39:11,474
That was my main… the main daughter
of my House, in other words.

681
00:39:11,557 --> 00:39:13,559
[upbeat music playing]

682
00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:17,313
[Angie] I used to tell her,
"You take too many chances."

683
00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:20,358
"You're too wild in the streets.
Something's gonna happen to you."

684
00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:21,567
But that was Venus.

685
00:39:22,109 --> 00:39:25,071
She always took a chance.
She always went into a stranger's car.

686
00:39:25,154 --> 00:39:29,075
She always did what she wanted
to get what she wanted.

687
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:34,413
The DTs came to me
with a picture of her murdered,

688
00:39:34,497 --> 00:39:39,126
and I was the one that had to give
all this information down to her family.

689
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:41,212
[melancholy music playing]

690
00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:47,051
[John] I remember my mom calling.

691
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:51,847
She said, "Get to your grandmother's.
Something terrible happened." And…

692
00:39:53,682 --> 00:39:55,726
my father had
a station wagon at that time.

693
00:39:55,810 --> 00:40:00,481
We just went… really quiet.

694
00:40:02,691 --> 00:40:04,068
No words were said,

695
00:40:04,151 --> 00:40:09,615
you know, until we got to where we were
at the medical examiner's office,

696
00:40:09,698 --> 00:40:11,909
and so we talked.

697
00:40:13,702 --> 00:40:15,246
Me, Joe, and my dad.

698
00:40:16,831 --> 00:40:18,582
And he said, "Go get your brother."

699
00:40:19,792 --> 00:40:20,626
"All right."

700
00:40:21,669 --> 00:40:23,963
I went with the examiner or whatever.

701
00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:31,637
I said, "Pull out the hand,"
because Venus had a mark on her hand.

702
00:40:32,346 --> 00:40:33,681
She had a hawk.

703
00:40:34,473 --> 00:40:35,724
Did you ever see a hawk?

704
00:40:38,227 --> 00:40:40,896
It was some medicine
from when she was a baby.

705
00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:43,065
Meningitis. It spilled on her.

706
00:40:43,149 --> 00:40:45,818
Put a little burn,
but it healed like a hawk.

707
00:40:48,154 --> 00:40:50,906
And that's when I said,
"Pull out the hand."

708
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:53,742
"Let me see."

709
00:40:53,826 --> 00:40:55,202
And there it was.

710
00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:57,496
I knew that was her.

711
00:40:57,580 --> 00:41:00,583
And it was…
It's something you don't wanna remember.

712
00:41:00,666 --> 00:41:03,377
You don't wanna see
your sister decomposed like I did.

713
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:07,506
Yeah.

714
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:09,383
Terrible.

715
00:41:11,552 --> 00:41:13,554
[soft music playing]

716
00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:18,893
[John] What I'm looking for,
I did not find,

717
00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:21,896
and that sucks.

718
00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:53,761
[Louie] I was just thinking,
when I was younger,

719
00:41:54,803 --> 00:41:59,016
I always felt like Venus' presence was,
like, protecting me.

720
00:42:00,059 --> 00:42:02,603
My mom, I told you,
would take us to the car

721
00:42:02,686 --> 00:42:05,356
when they'd argue,
and we'd have to sleep in the car.

722
00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:08,317
And Venus, even at that age,

723
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,695
was protecting me and holding me.

724
00:42:12,947 --> 00:42:15,115
I can remember that like it was yesterday.

725
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,201
[music continues]

726
00:42:23,415 --> 00:42:25,417
-How are you?
-[Louie] Very well.

727
00:42:25,501 --> 00:42:26,585
[music fades]

728
00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:28,462
[speaking indistinctly]

729
00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:31,006
[Joe] How do you feel?

730
00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:33,759
I'm all right.
I just wanna see what's going on.

731
00:42:33,842 --> 00:42:36,971
We'll see what the deal is
once and for all.

732
00:42:37,054 --> 00:42:40,224
[Joe] My mind is, like, moving
100 miles an hour.

733
00:42:43,978 --> 00:42:44,937
[Louie] Ready?

734
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:49,984
[John] That coffee's horrible.
I'm letting you know right away. Horrible.

735
00:42:51,485 --> 00:42:53,028
[indistinct chatter]

736
00:42:55,072 --> 00:42:59,952
It's ironic that the meeting fell today
because today's the 34th anniversary.

737
00:43:00,035 --> 00:43:01,370
-[Joe] Right?
-[John] That's right.

738
00:43:02,788 --> 00:43:06,083
This has been a little bit
of an odyssey from our perspective.

739
00:43:06,166 --> 00:43:09,628
We didn't get a physical copy
of the entire file for you.

740
00:43:10,212 --> 00:43:12,798
Uh, what we were able to get,
which we're gonna give you today,

741
00:43:12,881 --> 00:43:16,927
is a very high-level summary
of the investigation,

742
00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:20,222
but some of the details
that we learned from the file

743
00:43:20,306 --> 00:43:22,182
are not gonna be easy to hear.

744
00:43:24,768 --> 00:43:27,771
So Venus's body was found
at the Fulton Hotel.

745
00:43:27,855 --> 00:43:29,607
Uh, she was under a mattress.

746
00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:33,736
Uh, there was a plaid scarf
tied around her neck tightly.

747
00:43:33,819 --> 00:43:37,448
She clearly had ligature marks,
uh, on her wrists,

748
00:43:37,531 --> 00:43:41,827
so that confirms that she was bound
before she was murdered.

749
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:47,082
Her body was discovered by a housekeeper,
uh, but the police interviewed her.

750
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:51,086
The police interviewed
a number of other hotel employees,

751
00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:52,671
but the bottom line is,

752
00:43:52,755 --> 00:43:56,258
as of the… the time of the murder,

753
00:43:56,342 --> 00:43:58,093
there were no live suspects,

754
00:43:58,177 --> 00:44:01,680
and so the trail
could have gone cold there.

755
00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:03,557
[Deanna] So in February 1990,

756
00:44:03,641 --> 00:44:07,853
the police were able
to identify someone by the name Robinson.

757
00:44:08,354 --> 00:44:10,689
And the way this name came to them,

758
00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:14,193
he was incarcerated
in Nassau on an unrelated rape case.

759
00:44:14,276 --> 00:44:16,195
This guy Robinson

760
00:44:16,278 --> 00:44:20,282
called the detective who arrested him
in Nassau County

761
00:44:20,366 --> 00:44:22,534
and confessed to the detective

762
00:44:22,618 --> 00:44:26,455
about murdering a prostitute
in a Manhattan hotel.

763
00:44:26,538 --> 00:44:28,624
He-- The DD-5 from that one

764
00:44:28,707 --> 00:44:31,543
does not say the words, "I strangled her."

765
00:44:32,127 --> 00:44:34,672
It literally just says, "I bound her,"

766
00:44:34,755 --> 00:44:36,382
and then says,

767
00:44:36,465 --> 00:44:39,843
"Once I believed that,
that she was dead, um,

768
00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:43,013
I put a mattress over her
to hide her body."

769
00:44:44,139 --> 00:44:48,268
And then, apparently, within a day or two
of that confession happening,

770
00:44:48,352 --> 00:44:49,520
he hangs himself.

771
00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:55,734
[John] This is what gets me.
[clears throat] This is what gets me.

772
00:44:56,318 --> 00:44:57,653
You're in jail on rape.

773
00:44:57,736 --> 00:45:00,447
Why in the world
do you wanna confess to a murder

774
00:45:00,531 --> 00:45:02,074
if you're in jail on rape?

775
00:45:02,157 --> 00:45:05,119
-John, people have consciences.
-Oh, you think so?

776
00:45:05,202 --> 00:45:07,454
-Yeah, I think so.
-[John] You think so?

777
00:45:07,538 --> 00:45:09,206
I just can't get over a fact

778
00:45:09,289 --> 00:45:11,709
somebody's in jail,
and you're too fucking naive,

779
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:15,129
the both of youse,
to think somebody's in jail on rape--

780
00:45:15,212 --> 00:45:18,298
[Louie] John, you don't think
this ever happens? It happens.

781
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:21,093
-You think people wanna say--
-They commit…

782
00:45:21,176 --> 00:45:24,722
Yeah, they kill themselves,
but they don't admit to killing people.

783
00:45:25,431 --> 00:45:26,724
[Joe] I mean, obviously,

784
00:45:26,807 --> 00:45:29,810
he said something
that only the murderer would know.

785
00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:32,521
-Where did this guy live?
-We don't have any details.

786
00:45:32,604 --> 00:45:34,815
[Joe] You don't have
any of that information?

787
00:45:34,898 --> 00:45:37,609
[Jim] I'm telling you
what's in the police file.

788
00:45:37,693 --> 00:45:41,488
I don't know what's true or not,
but I very much agree with you

789
00:45:41,572 --> 00:45:43,782
that it's really unusual

790
00:45:43,866 --> 00:45:47,494
for a guy that is in prison for a rape

791
00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:49,037
to confess to a murder.

792
00:45:49,621 --> 00:45:51,874
Maybe he knew
he was gonna take his own life.

793
00:45:51,957 --> 00:45:53,083
[John] Well, maybe, yeah.

794
00:45:53,167 --> 00:45:55,919
Is there anything in the file

795
00:45:56,003 --> 00:45:58,797
saying that this physical evidence

796
00:45:58,881 --> 00:46:01,216
may be pointing to a suspect?

797
00:46:01,925 --> 00:46:06,054
[Deanna] So Lieutenant Russo did say
that, to give you guys closure,

798
00:46:06,138 --> 00:46:10,934
NYPD would reopen the case and see
if there was corroborating evidence.

799
00:46:11,018 --> 00:46:12,853
Like you said, if there was DNA,

800
00:46:12,936 --> 00:46:15,397
they would reach out
to the medical examiner's office

801
00:46:15,481 --> 00:46:18,525
and see if they also had DNA
or any other evidence.

802
00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:21,904
[Jim] You should do
what you feel is necessary,

803
00:46:23,071 --> 00:46:24,782
but in my humble view,

804
00:46:24,865 --> 00:46:26,909
that's just gonna tell you
what you already know,

805
00:46:26,992 --> 00:46:29,912
which is that this guy argued with her,

806
00:46:29,995 --> 00:46:32,998
and it escalated, and he strangled her.

807
00:46:33,081 --> 00:46:34,875
And I didn't know about the…

808
00:46:36,835 --> 00:46:38,670
having her hands tied. I didn't…

809
00:46:44,718 --> 00:46:45,886
[crying]

810
00:46:45,969 --> 00:46:47,054
Oh man.

811
00:46:49,181 --> 00:46:50,057
Damn.

812
00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:56,438
[John] He's gotta be a fucking jerk-off
because she was tiny anyway.

813
00:46:56,522 --> 00:46:58,524
So… a piece of shit.

814
00:46:59,107 --> 00:47:00,818
-[Gisele] A coward.
-[John] Yeah, a coward.

815
00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:02,569
Absolutely. I said that.

816
00:47:05,572 --> 00:47:07,950
Part of me is mad at Venus.

817
00:47:08,033 --> 00:47:10,244
[John] I'll tell you what.
She was cracking.

818
00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:12,204
She smoked crack.

819
00:47:13,747 --> 00:47:15,499
-Yeah.
-She liked to party.

820
00:47:16,792 --> 00:47:19,294
She was still a human being.
It doesn't matter.

821
00:47:20,879 --> 00:47:23,924
Regardless of what she did,
she was still a human being.

822
00:47:24,007 --> 00:47:25,467
[John] Nobody deserves that.

823
00:47:25,551 --> 00:47:28,220
[Gisele] Everyone has issues.
Nobody's perfect.

824
00:47:28,303 --> 00:47:30,264
[John] I know that better than anyone.

825
00:47:33,058 --> 00:47:36,562
I wanna see the file.
I wanna see that file.

826
00:47:36,645 --> 00:47:37,938
-This is…
-I know. I know.

827
00:47:38,021 --> 00:47:40,566
[laughs] John, I mean…
What else do you wanna see?

828
00:47:40,649 --> 00:47:43,485
-I want to see it though.
-I'm okay.

829
00:47:43,569 --> 00:47:46,572
Youse do what you wanna do.
Just do what youse wanna do.

830
00:47:46,655 --> 00:47:48,407
-Agreed.
-[John] Too many inconsistencies.

831
00:47:48,490 --> 00:47:50,784
[Louie] They got the guy's name.
They know who he was.

832
00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:51,869
-He did it.
-Oh my God.

833
00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:55,247
[Louie] What else are we gonna--
What is the investigation gonna show?

834
00:47:55,330 --> 00:47:57,916
-[Joe] Can it bring Venus back? Huh.
-[John] Mm-mm.

835
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,210
I told youse that before.
She ain't coming back.

836
00:48:00,294 --> 00:48:02,462
It's not for nothing.
This is very painful for me.

837
00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:05,257
-[John] I understand. All right.
-I can't sit through this stuff.

838
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:07,050
-Okay?
-We got the information, John.

839
00:48:07,134 --> 00:48:08,385
We know who did it.

840
00:48:08,886 --> 00:48:10,679
But I understand your point,

841
00:48:10,762 --> 00:48:12,723
but that's what's gonna eat you away.

842
00:48:12,806 --> 00:48:14,933
[melancholy music playing]

843
00:48:18,604 --> 00:48:21,523
[Louie] You know what we could do
is just remember Venus right now.

844
00:48:21,607 --> 00:48:23,942
-Look at this beautiful sunset.
-[Joe] Yeah.

845
00:48:29,114 --> 00:48:31,158
[Gisele] Yeah, that's a beautiful sun.

846
00:48:31,241 --> 00:48:33,201
-Holy cow.
-Jersey City.

847
00:48:33,285 --> 00:48:34,119
[Joe] Yeah.

848
00:48:36,788 --> 00:48:37,623
Wow. Beautiful.

849
00:48:37,706 --> 00:48:39,416
[John] Let me see that copy one more time.

850
00:48:49,676 --> 00:48:51,595
-Yeah. I'm good, bro.
-Yeah, same here.

851
00:48:51,678 --> 00:48:52,679
I'm good.

852
00:48:52,763 --> 00:48:54,765
[music continues]

853
00:49:15,494 --> 00:49:17,496
[music fades]

854
00:49:22,459 --> 00:49:24,127
[John] Losing my sister made me…

855
00:49:25,087 --> 00:49:28,382
It weakened me.
You want the truth? It weakened me.

856
00:49:30,634 --> 00:49:33,136
You have your regrets.
"What did I do wrong?"

857
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:38,517
I was more worried
about my image than her.

858
00:49:42,479 --> 00:49:44,982
I'm gonna go meet a friend of my sister's.

859
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,484
I wanna ask her,

860
00:49:47,567 --> 00:49:51,822
"Hey, listen, tell me the stories now
that I didn't know."

861
00:49:51,905 --> 00:49:53,615
"Maybe that would, uh…

862
00:49:55,075 --> 00:49:58,412
help me understand my sister better."

863
00:50:05,335 --> 00:50:09,047
Venus had all brothers,
so if she had a sister, it would be you.

864
00:50:09,131 --> 00:50:11,383
So she would confide in you,

865
00:50:11,466 --> 00:50:13,760
and she would tell you things
that we don't know.

866
00:50:13,844 --> 00:50:16,596
So I'm… I'm… I'm looking to find out

867
00:50:18,098 --> 00:50:18,974
what…

868
00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:23,770
what it was like with her,
hanging out with her.

869
00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:25,480
Venus loved her brothers,

870
00:50:26,273 --> 00:50:31,611
but she felt safe
in a different way around me, okay?

871
00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:34,573
She had a room in my apartment.

872
00:50:34,656 --> 00:50:37,200
She made it her room, okay?

873
00:50:37,284 --> 00:50:38,618
And that was the room,

874
00:50:38,702 --> 00:50:41,538
that was her serenity,
when she wanted to get away.

875
00:50:42,581 --> 00:50:45,459
She never used a key,
always went through the fire escape,

876
00:50:46,126 --> 00:50:47,919
but she was comfortable, see?

877
00:50:48,003 --> 00:50:48,837
And, you know…

878
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,797
[John] That's crazy.
Do you see what I'm saying?

879
00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:53,258
It's what I'm saying, but the thing was

880
00:50:53,341 --> 00:50:54,926
I adored that crazy girl.

881
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:56,428
-[John] Okay.
-So it was okay.

882
00:50:56,511 --> 00:51:00,015
Maybe at her family's,
they would have gotten on her case,

883
00:51:00,098 --> 00:51:03,143
or she may have felt
like they would have gotten on her case.

884
00:51:03,226 --> 00:51:04,978
Well, that's the difference though.

885
00:51:05,562 --> 00:51:08,648
But Venus loved her brothers,
the family and everything,

886
00:51:08,732 --> 00:51:11,610
and she made it clear
that she loved you, John.

887
00:51:11,693 --> 00:51:12,986
She really did.

888
00:51:13,070 --> 00:51:14,905
[John] I did a lot of shit to her,

889
00:51:15,655 --> 00:51:18,158
not to toughen her up, but, you know, I…

890
00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:20,869
And I did a lot of shit
to fuck her up too.

891
00:51:22,037 --> 00:51:26,458
Mikey was a baby. I told her,
"You can watch him, and I'll pay you."

892
00:51:27,084 --> 00:51:28,710
But I said to her,

893
00:51:28,794 --> 00:51:32,839
"If you take the kid out,
do not dress like a woman."

894
00:51:32,923 --> 00:51:35,175
I did say that to her, so…

895
00:51:36,093 --> 00:51:41,181
And I kind of feel fucked up
about that now because that's who she was.

896
00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:45,143
But out of respect,
she would wear sweatpants, a sweatshirt,

897
00:51:46,019 --> 00:51:49,189
put her hair in a ponytail,
and have Mikey in a carriage.

898
00:51:50,148 --> 00:51:51,858
You know, so…

899
00:51:53,693 --> 00:51:58,323
You don't say that.
I should have never said that, but I did.

900
00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:04,871
-You have pictures of my sister in here?
-[Helen] I do.

901
00:52:08,708 --> 00:52:10,418
[John] This is a really nice picture.

902
00:52:10,502 --> 00:52:11,920
-[Helen] It is.
-[John] Let me see.

903
00:52:13,213 --> 00:52:14,256
[Helen] So cute.

904
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:21,304
-[John] This is at a ball?
-[Helen] Yes.

905
00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:28,603
[Helen] I remember she had gotten a taste
of the first show of her in drag,

906
00:52:28,687 --> 00:52:31,940
and then we just
started talking about names.

907
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,942
So we come up with a few.

908
00:52:34,025 --> 00:52:37,404
One said Tiny,
the other one said Little Bit, Peanut,

909
00:52:37,487 --> 00:52:39,823
and I was like,
"Just stupid names," you know?

910
00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:43,493
And I kept remembering
that song just crossed my mind, "Venus."

911
00:52:44,077 --> 00:52:47,956
It was, I think, Frankie Avalon.
And I said, "What about Venus?"

912
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:51,376
And her eyes lit up.
She goes, "Oh, that sounds so nice."

913
00:52:52,169 --> 00:52:56,131
"And I wanna be different."
So she said, "That's gonna be my name."

914
00:52:57,007 --> 00:52:58,717
And that's how she got it.

915
00:52:59,384 --> 00:53:03,555
And it fit her so well
because it was different, you see?

916
00:53:03,638 --> 00:53:04,472
Yeah.

917
00:53:04,556 --> 00:53:05,724
And that's…

918
00:53:06,641 --> 00:53:07,642
that's her name.

919
00:53:09,436 --> 00:53:11,563
["Venus" by Frankie Avalon playing]

920
00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:20,071
♪ Hey, Venus ♪

921
00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:24,326
♪ Oh, Venus… ♪

922
00:53:30,373 --> 00:53:31,708
[Amara] I think this is the front.

923
00:53:32,375 --> 00:53:35,170
Gotta get this big ol' head
in this tiny hole, darling.

924
00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:37,130
Ooh.

925
00:53:37,964 --> 00:53:40,592
She's being born. [chuckles]

926
00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:45,931
Mirror, mirror on the wall…

927
00:53:47,098 --> 00:53:49,142
Who's the fem queen at the ball?

928
00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:52,812
Yeah, I feel like

929
00:53:52,896 --> 00:53:56,650
ballroom has really
given me the confidence to step out.

930
00:53:56,733 --> 00:54:01,780
When I'm in the ballroom, the chin is up,
the head is high, the eyes are straight.

931
00:54:01,863 --> 00:54:06,076
I take a lot of that with me
in and out of ballroom for protection.

932
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:10,330
It has taught me how to be confident
just walking the streets of New York City.

933
00:54:10,413 --> 00:54:11,998
Everywhere I go, just making sure

934
00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:15,710
that I'm really,
literally putting my best foot forward

935
00:54:15,794 --> 00:54:18,255
when I pump. [laughs]

936
00:54:18,338 --> 00:54:20,340
[upbeat music playing]

937
00:54:21,383 --> 00:54:24,219
-[Syd] Hello.
-[Amara] Syd! How are you?

938
00:54:24,302 --> 00:54:25,512
I'm good.

939
00:54:26,972 --> 00:54:28,515
[indistinct chatter]

940
00:54:28,598 --> 00:54:31,851
[Syd] Oh my God! Where's Amara?

941
00:54:33,561 --> 00:54:34,813
[Amara] There. Yeah.

942
00:54:38,191 --> 00:54:40,193
[music continues]

943
00:54:43,154 --> 00:54:44,531
Hello!

944
00:54:44,614 --> 00:54:47,367
It's been so long time to see you!

945
00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:49,703
I know!

946
00:55:24,029 --> 00:55:26,031
[music fades]

947
00:55:26,114 --> 00:55:29,159
[Deanna] So I received a call
from Detective Decker

948
00:55:29,242 --> 00:55:31,494
of NYPD's Cold Case Unit.

949
00:55:31,578 --> 00:55:35,040
-They started looking into the case again.
-[John] That's great.

950
00:55:35,123 --> 00:55:39,210
We had talked about the possibility
that the evidence might have been lost,

951
00:55:39,294 --> 00:55:42,756
either at the NYPD warehouse fire
or during Hurricane Sandy.

952
00:55:42,839 --> 00:55:45,050
He was actually able
to locate three items,

953
00:55:45,633 --> 00:55:48,303
including the ligature that was used.

954
00:55:48,386 --> 00:55:51,431
And the suspect,
when they did the autopsy,

955
00:55:51,514 --> 00:55:53,475
they took a DNA sample from him.

956
00:55:53,558 --> 00:55:55,060
It's called a stain card.

957
00:55:55,143 --> 00:55:58,563
And so NYPD was also able
to take a piece of that stain card.

958
00:55:58,646 --> 00:56:02,317
And so they're going to test
both of those to see if there's a match.

959
00:56:02,817 --> 00:56:05,528
Well, there's no disputing that.

960
00:56:05,612 --> 00:56:08,406
-If it matches, we… we got our answers.
-Yes. Mm-hmm.

961
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:09,574
Listen…

962
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:13,995
-Ms. Deanna, thank you so much.
-Of course.

963
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,081
[soft music playing]

964
00:56:17,874 --> 00:56:19,000
Unbelievable.

965
00:56:20,168 --> 00:56:21,628
That's unbelievable.

966
00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:33,306
[man] Where did this idea come from
to have this house be a landmark?

967
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:36,810
[Gisele] Venus Xtravaganza
was a trans woman

968
00:56:36,893 --> 00:56:38,478
who was in the House of Xtravaganza.

969
00:56:38,561 --> 00:56:42,524
She joined the House at the early stages

970
00:56:42,607 --> 00:56:44,526
when the House first started.

971
00:56:44,609 --> 00:56:47,779
So she has a huge history
in ballroom as well.

972
00:56:48,363 --> 00:56:51,032
And Venus was Puerto Rican and Italian,

973
00:56:51,116 --> 00:56:53,993
and she lived
in New Jersey, in Jersey City.

974
00:56:54,077 --> 00:56:56,996
This is where
Venus Xtravaganza was raised.

975
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,082
She basically was a trans woman

976
00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:03,253
who inspired and influenced
a whole culture and a generation.

977
00:57:03,336 --> 00:57:07,132
You know, she inspired me,
she inspired so many girls,

978
00:57:07,215 --> 00:57:10,051
and she was a trendsetter
and a pioneer in our community.

979
00:57:10,135 --> 00:57:13,430
And so showing the world
this public acknowledgement,

980
00:57:13,513 --> 00:57:17,559
it would be a form of justice
for the House of Xtravaganza,

981
00:57:17,642 --> 00:57:19,269
for the family, and for Venus,

982
00:57:19,352 --> 00:57:22,147
and for the trans community,
and for the gay community.

983
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:23,690
For all of us, really.

984
00:57:24,190 --> 00:57:27,861
And if it's the one thing
we can tell our community right now is,

985
00:57:27,944 --> 00:57:29,028
"You deserve a home."

986
00:57:29,904 --> 00:57:33,533
All right. Thank you very much
for the very passionate testimony.

987
00:57:33,616 --> 00:57:36,953
You've taken us through this.
I think it meets all these criteria.

988
00:57:37,036 --> 00:57:41,749
So I'm prepared to make a motion
to recommend this to the planning board.

989
00:57:41,833 --> 00:57:43,835
[all cheering, applauding]

990
00:57:44,711 --> 00:57:45,962
[man] Congratulations.

991
00:57:46,045 --> 00:57:48,047
[soft music playing]

992
00:57:56,681 --> 00:57:58,433
[both chuckle]

993
00:57:58,516 --> 00:58:01,644
-[Celeste] How are you?
-[John] How are you?

994
00:58:01,728 --> 00:58:04,439
-[Celeste] Good. Lovely to see you too.
-[John] Good to see you.

995
00:58:04,939 --> 00:58:06,608
-Wanna see what it looks like?
-Yeah.

996
00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:08,193
Yeah, check this out. All right.

997
00:58:08,276 --> 00:58:10,987
"Name is hereby corrected
to Venus Pellagatti Xtravaganza,

998
00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:13,865
the name legally used
by decedent during her lifetime,

999
00:58:13,948 --> 00:58:15,366
effective immediately."

1000
00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:18,495
"Ordered on this 29th day of August 2023."

1001
00:58:18,578 --> 00:58:19,787
My birthday!

1002
00:58:19,871 --> 00:58:21,164
-[Celeste] Really?
-Yes.

1003
00:58:21,247 --> 00:58:22,832
-[Joe] Awesome. Yes.
-Isn't this awesome?

1004
00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:24,042
This has never been done.

1005
00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:26,503
[Celeste] As far as I know,
this has never been done before.

1006
00:58:26,586 --> 00:58:29,172
-[Joe] So this is groundbreaking.
-[Celeste] Little bit.

1007
00:58:29,255 --> 00:58:31,508
-No, a lot of bit.
-[Celeste] A lot of bit.

1008
00:58:31,591 --> 00:58:34,469
So this court order, even though
it was entered in Hudson County,

1009
00:58:34,552 --> 00:58:37,472
is good anywhere in the United States.

1010
00:58:37,555 --> 00:58:39,015
-Okay.
-Anywhere in New Jersey.

1011
00:58:39,098 --> 00:58:42,143
Any place that has to follow
a court order,

1012
00:58:42,227 --> 00:58:44,145
which is pretty much most places,

1013
00:58:44,229 --> 00:58:46,397
pretty much everywhere,
has to follow that.

1014
00:58:47,232 --> 00:58:51,236
You know, let's, uh…
let's get a new tombstone for her.

1015
00:58:51,736 --> 00:58:56,449
And then the other thing I would do is
just get her death certificate changed.

1016
00:58:56,533 --> 00:58:58,076
We owe that to her.

1017
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:02,372
And I think she wants me to do that
because this all happened on my birthday.

1018
00:59:02,455 --> 00:59:03,748
[John] On your birthday.

1019
00:59:03,831 --> 00:59:06,125
So I think
she's trying to tell me something.

1020
00:59:06,209 --> 00:59:07,794
-[John] That's incredible.
-You know?

1021
00:59:07,877 --> 00:59:10,171
[Celeste] The way that we can make it

1022
00:59:10,255 --> 00:59:12,757
so that it's easier
for other people to use

1023
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,343
or to do or to set a precedent, legally,

1024
00:59:15,426 --> 00:59:18,346
is to ask the court
to issue a written decision

1025
00:59:18,429 --> 00:59:20,640
and then try
to get that decision published.

1026
00:59:20,723 --> 00:59:23,768
[Joe] We're okay with that.
I'm gonna frame it.

1027
00:59:23,851 --> 00:59:27,939
It's gonna go downstairs
right next to the Baltimore Oriole,

1028
00:59:28,022 --> 00:59:31,192
New York Knicks, all that good stuff.
[laughs]

1029
00:59:31,276 --> 00:59:34,571
[John] Take the Knicks down. I don't know,
but that's your house. You do what…

1030
00:59:34,654 --> 00:59:38,157
-Indianapolis Colts.
-[John] A lot of colors down there.

1031
00:59:38,241 --> 00:59:41,869
-It'll be very colorful. LGBT T-shirt.
-[John] There's your LGBT T-shirt.

1032
00:59:41,953 --> 00:59:42,787
[all laughing]

1033
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:44,581
[John] Oh my God.

1034
00:59:44,664 --> 00:59:45,915
Come on, give me some.

1035
00:59:45,999 --> 00:59:47,709
[Celeste] You have it all. You got it all.

1036
00:59:47,792 --> 00:59:49,919
-This is good, man. This is good stuff.
-[Celeste] Yeah.

1037
00:59:50,003 --> 00:59:52,005
[gentle music playing]

1038
00:59:57,302 --> 00:59:59,387
[Venus] I've come from being a young,

1039
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,224
loud little flaming queen from the Village

1040
01:00:03,891 --> 01:00:07,645
to a mature young lady,
competing in balls.

1041
01:00:10,398 --> 01:00:12,191
I want to start a career

1042
01:00:12,275 --> 01:00:13,985
in professional modeling.

1043
01:00:14,819 --> 01:00:16,696
I'm just hoping for the best.

1044
01:00:16,779 --> 01:00:19,490
But if things don't ever work out,
you never know…

1045
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,328
Maybe one day
I'll meet a rich millionaire,

1046
01:00:23,411 --> 01:00:25,788
and he'll take me all around the world.
[chuckles]

1047
01:00:31,794 --> 01:00:33,463
[music fades]

1048
01:00:33,546 --> 01:00:36,257
[Gisele] So would you prefer
to debut in another country,

1049
01:00:36,341 --> 01:00:38,259
or would you wanna debut in New York City?

1050
01:00:38,343 --> 01:00:41,721
They really want me
to save my high fashion virginity

1051
01:00:41,804 --> 01:00:42,889
for Europe.

1052
01:00:42,972 --> 01:00:44,932
-Okay.
-For Paris, so…

1053
01:00:45,016 --> 01:00:48,227
They're casting for Paris
the end of this week, probably Thursday,

1054
01:00:48,311 --> 01:00:52,065
so I really could get called
any day now to just get on the flight.

1055
01:00:53,274 --> 01:00:57,820
-Yeah.
-Pack my bags and work internationally.

1056
01:00:57,904 --> 01:00:59,864
That would be so beautiful.

1057
01:01:00,448 --> 01:01:05,536
Part of getting ready
for Europe was getting a new ID and…

1058
01:01:06,204 --> 01:01:08,414
My ID still says my deadname
and everything.

1059
01:01:08,498 --> 01:01:12,502
So now I'm still walking the Earth,
legally, as…

1060
01:01:14,587 --> 01:01:16,589
[laughing] You know? It's gonna be that.

1061
01:01:16,673 --> 01:01:20,259
[Gisele] No! The name
that shall not be mentioned.

1062
01:01:20,343 --> 01:01:22,220
-Oh my God.
-[Amara] I pay it dust.

1063
01:01:22,303 --> 01:01:26,641
To be honest, I feel like
some of the girls get triggered by it.

1064
01:01:26,724 --> 01:01:30,395
My parents still call me
by my deadname, so it gets very like…

1065
01:01:31,729 --> 01:01:33,564
[Gisele] Oh, how's that?

1066
01:01:34,273 --> 01:01:36,442
It's really, really like…

1067
01:01:37,694 --> 01:01:39,946
It's funny, to be honest,
because I give woman

1068
01:01:40,029 --> 01:01:42,490
when I come through the door,
so it's almost like,

1069
01:01:42,573 --> 01:01:46,953
"Okay, when I get bags, are you
still gonna be calling me…?" You know?

1070
01:01:47,036 --> 01:01:50,081
You know, I think
I must have been pretty crazy,

1071
01:01:50,164 --> 01:01:54,210
because I don't understand
what happened with me, but I was like,

1072
01:01:54,293 --> 01:01:56,879
"No one's gonna call me that!"

1073
01:01:56,963 --> 01:01:58,923
And, yeah, they never did.

1074
01:02:00,299 --> 01:02:04,804
So John called me
and told me that Venus' name is officially

1075
01:02:04,887 --> 01:02:08,683
Venus Pellagatti Xtravaganza,
so she's gonna have both her names.

1076
01:02:10,518 --> 01:02:13,730
-It's legal.
-Wait, so they changed the tombstone too?

1077
01:02:13,813 --> 01:02:18,317
-[Gisele] They're gonna change it.
-That's a major, major, major step.

1078
01:02:18,401 --> 01:02:19,277
Yeah.

1079
01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:25,742
I think it's beautiful that her family
wants to give her that respect.

1080
01:02:25,825 --> 01:02:28,995
-[Amara] Absolutely.
-All together, as a family.

1081
01:02:36,252 --> 01:02:38,963
[John] I did talk to Detective Decker
with NYPD.

1082
01:02:39,046 --> 01:02:39,881
[Joe] Really?

1083
01:02:40,631 --> 01:02:46,012
[John] So he says, "A bit of bad news."
I said, "Okay, what's going on?"

1084
01:02:46,095 --> 01:02:51,601
He said the first DNA
they sent out came back

1085
01:02:52,685 --> 01:02:56,939
and ruled out that this kid, Robinson…

1086
01:02:57,023 --> 01:03:02,653
It just don't match up
with what they had under her fingernails.

1087
01:03:02,737 --> 01:03:06,115
-So it remains an open case.
-That's fucked up.

1088
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:08,659
He's not gonna close the case.
It's reopened.

1089
01:03:10,745 --> 01:03:14,165
-But I never, never…
-[Joe] That's…

1090
01:03:14,248 --> 01:03:18,294
When we left Jim's office,
you know, I wanna put this to bed too.

1091
01:03:18,377 --> 01:03:21,339
-I made a point.
-[Joe] You did. I'm glad you did.

1092
01:03:21,422 --> 01:03:23,674
"Fuck this," I said, "I don't care."

1093
01:03:23,758 --> 01:03:28,471
[Joe] I was 98% sure
that this was the guy who did it.

1094
01:03:28,554 --> 01:03:32,600
-Of course. Yeah.
-I can't believe this. This is like…

1095
01:03:32,683 --> 01:03:34,644
Yeah. I believe it.

1096
01:03:34,727 --> 01:03:38,064
-They have DNA, right?
-[John] They have some DNA, yeah.

1097
01:03:38,147 --> 01:03:40,107
So isn't there a database?

1098
01:03:40,191 --> 01:03:41,567
[John] That's what I asked.

1099
01:03:41,651 --> 01:03:44,529
"Is there something
you can run through a computer?"

1100
01:03:44,612 --> 01:03:45,446
Exactly.

1101
01:03:45,530 --> 01:03:48,783
But then again, that's a shot too, 'cause…

1102
01:03:48,866 --> 01:03:52,245
-[Joe] Are we allowed to do that?
-I don't know. I gotta ask.

1103
01:03:52,328 --> 01:03:54,121
-This is fucked up.
-[John] It's bad.

1104
01:03:54,205 --> 01:03:56,249
-It's bad.
-[John] There's a killer still out there.

1105
01:03:56,332 --> 01:03:59,168
We gotta hope
that whoever's in that computer

1106
01:03:59,252 --> 01:04:01,629
has a criminal offense or did something.

1107
01:04:01,712 --> 01:04:05,466
No, not necessarily.
The people, they do their family history.

1108
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:07,885
-Yeah. Ancestry…
-Ancestry.com.

1109
01:04:07,969 --> 01:04:10,179
-They put their DNA in there.
-Yeah.

1110
01:04:10,263 --> 01:04:12,890
-You might find somebody like that.
-You never know.

1111
01:04:12,974 --> 01:04:16,477
-Let them do their job.
-Yeah. Yeah.

1112
01:04:16,978 --> 01:04:20,606
[John] We need to talk to Jim again
and see what our next moves are.

1113
01:04:20,690 --> 01:04:23,526
That's it. But this is
like a never-ending…

1114
01:04:24,986 --> 01:04:25,862
Never-ending.

1115
01:04:25,945 --> 01:04:28,948
It's like years and years and years,
same shit.

1116
01:04:29,031 --> 01:04:31,033
[melancholy music plays]

1117
01:04:38,666 --> 01:04:43,212
[Jim] It's gotta be really hard for you,
thinking that you knew what happened,

1118
01:04:43,296 --> 01:04:46,257
and now it's possible
that it happened a different way.

1119
01:04:46,883 --> 01:04:49,343
But for today's purposes,
I want you to understand

1120
01:04:49,427 --> 01:04:53,556
that although the tests
excluded the suspect,

1121
01:04:54,515 --> 01:04:57,435
as a contributor
to the DNA samples that were tested,

1122
01:04:58,144 --> 01:05:02,940
it didn't do anything more than that.
It's not definitive either way.

1123
01:05:03,024 --> 01:05:04,817
So no one can tell you,

1124
01:05:04,901 --> 01:05:08,946
based on the DNA that was taken,

1125
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:13,159
how it was stored,
whether it was degraded.

1126
01:05:13,242 --> 01:05:15,620
There are a lot of questions that we have.

1127
01:05:15,703 --> 01:05:21,834
Uh, for example, there's certainly
mixtures of DNA on some of the samples.

1128
01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:26,213
I think you guys understand that they took
some samples from Venus' fingernails.

1129
01:05:26,297 --> 01:05:28,215
There were some from the scarf

1130
01:05:28,299 --> 01:05:30,968
that they believe
may have been used to strangle her,

1131
01:05:31,052 --> 01:05:32,803
but they don't know that for sure.

1132
01:05:32,887 --> 01:05:38,851
So that doesn't mean that the person
that you know as the suspect is innocent.

1133
01:05:38,935 --> 01:05:41,687
Certainly doesn't mean that he's guilty.

1134
01:05:41,771 --> 01:05:47,151
It means that there is a healthy degree
of skepticism from the new team

1135
01:05:47,652 --> 01:05:50,279
to make sure
they look back at the old team's work.

1136
01:05:51,906 --> 01:05:52,949
You know, I just…

1137
01:05:53,032 --> 01:05:56,702
Again, I believe
we've made so many big strides here,

1138
01:05:56,786 --> 01:05:59,163
and I'm so grateful for everybody.

1139
01:05:59,246 --> 01:06:01,624
It's just… I'm already feeling

1140
01:06:01,707 --> 01:06:07,088
like I may never know the…
you know, the truth of who did this.

1141
01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:10,132
I don't think that's gonna happen.

1142
01:06:11,384 --> 01:06:14,470
[Gisele] It hurts,
but this is very important,

1143
01:06:14,553 --> 01:06:18,599
that we're raising our voices
for someone like Venus,

1144
01:06:19,308 --> 01:06:23,270
and that alone fulfills me

1145
01:06:23,354 --> 01:06:25,898
and makes me feel much better about…

1146
01:06:28,275 --> 01:06:29,568
life itself,

1147
01:06:29,652 --> 01:06:33,781
because there are people
that love us and support us,

1148
01:06:33,864 --> 01:06:35,992
brothers that love their sisters.

1149
01:06:36,075 --> 01:06:39,996
To see them come together
like this is really inspiring for me.

1150
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:45,167
[Jim] What you all have done
to bring light to this issue

1151
01:06:45,918 --> 01:06:48,587
and to help the entire community

1152
01:06:48,671 --> 01:06:51,298
is so much more

1153
01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:56,387
of a meaningful advancement
of her legacy than finding out

1154
01:06:56,470 --> 01:07:00,766
with a significant degree of certainty
who was responsible for this.

1155
01:07:00,850 --> 01:07:04,478
And I just hope that the pain
of not knowing who did this to her

1156
01:07:04,562 --> 01:07:09,525
to a mathematical certainty
is over… overshadowed

1157
01:07:09,608 --> 01:07:13,738
by all the good that has come
from bringing people together

1158
01:07:13,821 --> 01:07:17,324
to remember her and how important she was.

1159
01:07:17,408 --> 01:07:18,784
[melancholy music playing]

1160
01:07:18,868 --> 01:07:20,119
Thank you, Jim.

1161
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:21,954
[no audible dialogue]

1162
01:07:29,128 --> 01:07:33,382
[Joe] It doesn't mean that it's hopeless,
but it's very difficult.

1163
01:07:39,597 --> 01:07:45,561
[man] "City Ordinance 23-070,
Historic Preservation Review Procedures,

1164
01:07:45,644 --> 01:07:50,900
Venus Pellagatti Xtravaganza House,
343.5 8th Street."

1165
01:07:50,983 --> 01:07:53,027
This is a public hearing
on this ordinance.

1166
01:07:53,110 --> 01:07:55,780
Any member of the public
wishing to be heard,

1167
01:07:56,363 --> 01:07:59,200
please come up to the podium
and state your name for the record.

1168
01:08:00,659 --> 01:08:03,496
Hello. My name is
Amara Velasquez Xtravaganza.

1169
01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:05,164
How are you doing, council members?

1170
01:08:06,582 --> 01:08:09,668
"I am here today
to pay homage to my sister,

1171
01:08:09,752 --> 01:08:12,588
Venus Pellagatti Xtravaganza."

1172
01:08:12,671 --> 01:08:15,591
"Venus and I are both Latina trans women,

1173
01:08:15,674 --> 01:08:17,676
both Puerto Rican and Italian,

1174
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,346
both authentic in our self-expression,

1175
01:08:20,429 --> 01:08:22,473
both a part of the House of Xtravaganza."

1176
01:08:22,973 --> 01:08:26,852
"Venus's house being preserved
as a state and national landmark

1177
01:08:26,936 --> 01:08:30,064
would truly show the rest of America
how to celebrate queer people."

1178
01:08:30,147 --> 01:08:32,983
"It is so important for trans people

1179
01:08:33,067 --> 01:08:35,361
to see themselves reflected in society,

1180
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:40,199
to be included and to receive support
from the systems that govern us."

1181
01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:43,285
"We need queer historical spaces

1182
01:08:43,369 --> 01:08:46,163
so we can reflect
on all that we have fought for

1183
01:08:46,247 --> 01:08:48,290
and all that we are still fighting for."

1184
01:08:50,793 --> 01:08:54,296
[Joe] You know,
what happened to my sister, it's tragic.

1185
01:08:55,214 --> 01:08:58,259
What you guys are doing, if you vote yes,

1186
01:08:58,342 --> 01:09:01,470
is, um… is a step in the right direction.

1187
01:09:02,471 --> 01:09:05,432
[Jillian] This is history in the making.

1188
01:09:05,516 --> 01:09:08,477
It is something to be a beacon of light

1189
01:09:08,561 --> 01:09:13,816
to those who need us,
collectively, to lift up their voices.

1190
01:09:15,276 --> 01:09:18,320
[Michael] This initiative
is absolutely important.

1191
01:09:18,404 --> 01:09:20,990
This is not just about Latinx trans women,

1192
01:09:21,073 --> 01:09:22,825
as Venus was, or Black trans women.

1193
01:09:22,908 --> 01:09:25,035
It's not just about LGBTQ people.

1194
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:26,787
It's also about you.

1195
01:09:26,871 --> 01:09:28,956
Because none of us can be free,

1196
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:32,126
none of us,
unless we all are free. Thank you.

1197
01:09:32,209 --> 01:09:34,211
[all applauding]

1198
01:09:36,589 --> 01:09:39,884
[Frank] I just want to say,
I didn't know about this story

1199
01:09:39,967 --> 01:09:42,595
until the legislation was put forth.

1200
01:09:42,678 --> 01:09:46,640
But I just want to commend
all of the speakers that come up

1201
01:09:46,724 --> 01:09:48,642
because this…
I mean, this stuff looks easy.

1202
01:09:48,726 --> 01:09:50,186
It's not easy.

1203
01:09:53,522 --> 01:09:56,901
It's not easy. You open yourself up
to all types of attacks,

1204
01:09:56,984 --> 01:09:58,569
verbally, physically.

1205
01:09:58,652 --> 01:10:01,197
You know, this stuff is not easy, um…

1206
01:10:01,906 --> 01:10:03,741
[soft music playing]

1207
01:10:04,742 --> 01:10:06,911
[Frank] I just wanna commend you and just…

1208
01:10:06,994 --> 01:10:10,623
If we're going to embrace diversity,
let's embrace diversity.

1209
01:10:10,706 --> 01:10:15,044
Let's not be selective
in what we want to embrace.

1210
01:10:15,127 --> 01:10:17,129
[all applauding]

1211
01:10:18,422 --> 01:10:20,007
[man] Motion to close the public hearing

1212
01:10:20,090 --> 01:10:24,553
on City Ordinance 23-070,
Councilperson Prinz-Arey.

1213
01:10:24,637 --> 01:10:25,679
Aye.

1214
01:10:25,763 --> 01:10:27,890
-[man] Councilperson Boggiano.
-Aye.

1215
01:10:27,973 --> 01:10:30,100
-[man] Councilperson Saleh.
-Aye.

1216
01:10:30,184 --> 01:10:32,228
-[man] Councilperson Solomon.
-Aye.

1217
01:10:32,311 --> 01:10:34,438
-[man] Councilperson Gilmore.
-Aye.

1218
01:10:34,521 --> 01:10:36,982
-[man] Council President DeGise.
-Aye.

1219
01:10:37,066 --> 01:10:39,193
[music continues]

1220
01:10:39,276 --> 01:10:41,987
Motion carries, six-zero.

1221
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:45,282
The council members Ridley,
Rivera, and Watterman…

1222
01:10:46,242 --> 01:10:47,660
Congratulations.

1223
01:10:47,743 --> 01:10:49,745
[all applauding]

1224
01:11:06,762 --> 01:11:08,764
[music fades]

1225
01:11:10,766 --> 01:11:12,268
[Joe] Let's go party.

1226
01:11:12,351 --> 01:11:17,231
Party. I wanna see what's happening, man.
I'm looking forward to this.

1227
01:11:17,815 --> 01:11:20,734
If Venus was here,
she'd run away with the biggest trophy.

1228
01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:24,530
We're off to the ball.
Maybe I'll meet Cinderella tonight.

1229
01:11:25,239 --> 01:11:28,033
[Louie] Yeah? What are you gonna do
with glass slippers?

1230
01:11:28,117 --> 01:11:29,618
Let's see which one fits.

1231
01:11:29,702 --> 01:11:30,869
[all laughing]

1232
01:11:30,953 --> 01:11:34,290
[electronic music playing]

1233
01:11:34,373 --> 01:11:36,667
Which way are you going now?
I think we gotta go this way.

1234
01:11:36,750 --> 01:11:38,377
[Joe] Yeah, let's go with the lights.

1235
01:11:38,877 --> 01:11:42,798
♪ Touch this skin, honey
Touch all of this skin, okay? ♪

1236
01:11:49,805 --> 01:11:50,764
♪ Okay? ♪

1237
01:11:57,271 --> 01:11:58,188
♪ Okay? ♪

1238
01:11:58,856 --> 01:12:00,441
♪ You just can't take it ♪

1239
01:12:06,905 --> 01:12:08,032
♪ Okay? ♪

1240
01:12:10,534 --> 01:12:12,036
[John] You look so beautiful.

1241
01:12:13,662 --> 01:12:16,582
That's really impressive. That's pretty…

1242
01:12:16,665 --> 01:12:18,500
That's… Wow.

1243
01:12:19,168 --> 01:12:20,586
♪ Okay? ♪

1244
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,964
♪ Okay? ♪

1245
01:12:26,842 --> 01:12:27,676
♪ Okay? ♪

1246
01:12:29,511 --> 01:12:31,680
♪ Overgrown orangutan ♪

1247
01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:41,023
♪ Okay? ♪

1248
01:12:41,106 --> 01:12:42,524
[music continues]

1249
01:12:46,570 --> 01:12:50,574
[no audible dialogue]

1250
01:12:53,577 --> 01:12:56,538
♪ Touch this skin, honey
Touch all of this skin ♪

1251
01:13:09,051 --> 01:13:10,886
♪ You just can't take it ♪

1252
01:13:14,181 --> 01:13:16,183
[music fades]

1253
01:13:16,266 --> 01:13:18,268
[gentle music playing]

1254
01:13:21,105 --> 01:13:22,606
[John] I still grieve.

1255
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,068
That's never gonna change.

1256
01:13:27,194 --> 01:13:28,445
But I, uh…

1257
01:13:29,571 --> 01:13:32,199
I'm understanding a lot more now

1258
01:13:32,282 --> 01:13:35,244
than I was when all this process started

1259
01:13:35,327 --> 01:13:38,539
because I did get to meet
really a lot of good people.

1260
01:13:39,498 --> 01:13:40,749
Good, good people.

1261
01:13:41,959 --> 01:13:44,711
And they made me understand a lot better.

1262
01:13:44,795 --> 01:13:46,338
[music continues]

1263
01:13:49,299 --> 01:13:51,718
[Joe] Venus was somebody special.

1264
01:13:52,928 --> 01:13:56,473
Very proud of her
and what she did, her accomplishments.

1265
01:13:59,476 --> 01:14:01,770
I wish we could have done more for her.

1266
01:14:04,523 --> 01:14:05,774
You always feel like,

1267
01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:09,695
"Tomorrow we'll catch up.
Tomorrow we'll do this."

1268
01:14:10,404 --> 01:14:13,323
But when tomorrow
never comes for a person,

1269
01:14:13,407 --> 01:14:16,618
that's the most
difficult thing to deal with.

1270
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,582
I wish she was here.

1271
01:14:23,292 --> 01:14:25,294
[music continues]

1272
01:14:27,921 --> 01:14:30,257
The first thing
I would say is, "I'm sorry."

1273
01:14:39,475 --> 01:14:42,436
-[Louie] Hey. So happy to see you.
-[Jas] Long time no see.

1274
01:14:42,519 --> 01:14:44,396
-How are you doing?
-[Louie] I'm good.

1275
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:46,690
-[Jas] Sit down.
-[Louie] All right. You got it.

1276
01:14:46,773 --> 01:14:47,816
[Jas] Go for it.

1277
01:14:48,317 --> 01:14:49,151
Am I good here?

1278
01:14:49,735 --> 01:14:53,280
[Jas] You are. Let me turn you a little.
Move up some so that you're not…

1279
01:14:53,363 --> 01:14:54,907
Up? Okay.

1280
01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:56,742
-[Jas] So you're comfortable.
-[Louie] Yeah.

1281
01:14:56,825 --> 01:14:57,951
[machine buzzing]

1282
01:14:58,035 --> 01:14:59,703
[Louie] Here we go, Venus.

1283
01:14:59,786 --> 01:15:01,788
[gentle music playing]

1284
01:15:23,644 --> 01:15:25,229
[Louie] I was telling somebody,

1285
01:15:25,312 --> 01:15:28,899
22 years this November,
I'll be clean and sober.

1286
01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:34,112
I was in San Francisco,
and I just did not wanna exist, man.

1287
01:15:34,196 --> 01:15:36,448
And I didn't know what I was gonna do.

1288
01:15:36,532 --> 01:15:39,952
I just closed my eyes,
and I just seen Venus talking to me.

1289
01:15:40,035 --> 01:15:41,078
I really felt it.

1290
01:15:41,161 --> 01:15:43,247
-[machine buzzing]
-[music continues]

1291
01:15:43,330 --> 01:15:45,290
You know, I felt her saying to me,

1292
01:15:45,374 --> 01:15:48,794
"You cannot give up.
You have to get help."

1293
01:15:48,877 --> 01:15:50,796
You know, "You're needed here."

1294
01:15:50,879 --> 01:15:52,548
And I was.

1295
01:15:54,174 --> 01:15:55,342
You know?

1296
01:16:23,287 --> 01:16:24,997
Wow, it looks beautiful, Jas.

1297
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,226
[John] Everything is just
all falling into place.

1298
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:48,854
Like I told them,
she's finally getting her roses.

1299
01:16:48,937 --> 01:16:51,815
-Yes. I love it.
-Her flowers, you know?

1300
01:16:51,898 --> 01:16:53,525
The house is landmarked.

1301
01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:55,611
-It's a beautiful thing.
-[Helen] Yeah.

1302
01:16:56,361 --> 01:16:59,281
[man] We tried to keep everything
as original as possible as we worked.

1303
01:16:59,364 --> 01:17:00,824
Some stuff wasn't possible.

1304
01:17:00,907 --> 01:17:02,868
[Joe exhales deeply] Holy shit, man.

1305
01:17:02,951 --> 01:17:04,911
[man] I found something
while I was fixing up.

1306
01:17:04,995 --> 01:17:05,829
[gasps]

1307
01:17:05,912 --> 01:17:06,747
[John] Really?

1308
01:17:06,830 --> 01:17:08,749
-[man] Sure.
-That's a brooch.

1309
01:17:08,832 --> 01:17:11,251
-[John] That belonged to Venus.
-Can I see?

1310
01:17:11,335 --> 01:17:13,712
Do you remember that?
Venus used to wear that.

1311
01:17:13,795 --> 01:17:16,173
-[Helen] Wait a minute.
-[man] We found it inside a wall.

1312
01:17:16,256 --> 01:17:18,342
-It was your grandmother's.
-[John] Never heard of it.

1313
01:17:18,425 --> 01:17:20,427
Venus broke it and put it on something,

1314
01:17:20,510 --> 01:17:22,554
and your mother had a fit,
your grandmother had a fit.

1315
01:17:22,638 --> 01:17:24,848
-I remember this.
-[John] Let me see it.

1316
01:17:24,931 --> 01:17:27,017
-Yeah. Wow.
-[Helen] Crazy.

1317
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:31,104
-I wanna look at it.
-[Helen] Wow. That's forever ago.

1318
01:17:31,188 --> 01:17:32,689
-Beautiful.
-[Joe] Let me get a picture.

1319
01:17:32,773 --> 01:17:34,983
-[John] Take it with you. Absolutely.
-[Helen] Thank you.

1320
01:17:35,067 --> 01:17:36,860
[John] Really, thank you so much.

1321
01:17:36,943 --> 01:17:38,028
[Joe] It does.

1322
01:17:38,111 --> 01:17:39,446
[gentle music playing]

1323
01:17:39,529 --> 01:17:42,574
[John] You're an Xtravaganza,
and you're the mother of the House,

1324
01:17:42,658 --> 01:17:45,911
and I want you to have that.

1325
01:17:47,287 --> 01:17:48,705
Well, thank you.

1326
01:17:51,708 --> 01:17:53,210
I'll hold it very dear.

1327
01:17:54,670 --> 01:17:55,504
We're family,

1328
01:17:55,587 --> 01:17:58,757
and, uh, we'll always be here
for you guys.

1329
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,134
Just hit us up, you know.

1330
01:18:05,055 --> 01:18:06,973
[all applauding]

1331
01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:12,562
These two families can exist together

1332
01:18:12,646 --> 01:18:16,149
to create an even greater human being.

1333
01:18:16,733 --> 01:18:19,945
Venus Pellagatti Xtravaganza's home

1334
01:18:20,445 --> 01:18:23,782
is now our home.

1335
01:18:24,866 --> 01:18:26,660
Gisele, come on, baby. Get in here.

1336
01:18:32,165 --> 01:18:34,459
Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

1337
01:18:35,627 --> 01:18:38,547
Yes. We all get in there.

1338
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:41,717
-Come on.
-Jillian, come on. Helen, get in here.

1339
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,677
-Come one.
-[Joe] Come on, Jill.

1340
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:44,720
Venus.

1341
01:18:45,595 --> 01:18:49,599
-Yeah, X!
-Okay, listen. I guess I'm a member now.

1342
01:18:51,101 --> 01:18:53,270
-Venus.
-Venus.

1343
01:18:55,564 --> 01:18:58,483
-Awesome. Yes. Yeah!
-♪ She's got it ♪

1344
01:18:58,567 --> 01:18:59,651
♪ She's got it ♪

1345
01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:00,944
♪ Baby, she's got it ♪

1346
01:19:01,027 --> 01:19:02,279
♪ Baby, she's got it ♪

1347
01:19:02,362 --> 01:19:03,739
♪ I'm your Venus ♪

1348
01:19:03,822 --> 01:19:07,033
♪ I'm your fire, your desire ♪

1349
01:19:07,117 --> 01:19:08,702
Yeah!

1350
01:19:09,661 --> 01:19:11,246
♪ I'm your Venus ♪

1351
01:19:11,329 --> 01:19:14,750
♪ I'm your fire, your desire… ♪

1352
01:19:14,833 --> 01:19:16,835
[upbeat music playing]

1353
01:19:41,985 --> 01:19:46,239
[Maximo] Jersey, let me hear you
in the name of Venus Xtravaganza.

1354
01:19:47,574 --> 01:19:51,369
Happy Trans Day of Visibility,
today and every day.

1355
01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:54,372
Trans lives matter, baby.

1356
01:19:58,126 --> 01:19:59,711
♪ Clap for me like that ♪

1357
01:19:59,795 --> 01:20:03,465
♪ Just clap for me, just clap
Just clap for me like that ♪

1358
01:20:03,548 --> 01:20:05,967
♪ I wanna see ♪

1359
01:20:06,051 --> 01:20:06,927
♪ Just for me ♪

1360
01:20:07,010 --> 01:20:10,889
♪ My brother, Syd Xtravaganza ♪

1361
01:20:10,972 --> 01:20:12,766
♪ The trans man ♪

1362
01:20:12,849 --> 01:20:14,643
♪ The OTA ♪

1363
01:20:14,726 --> 01:20:16,394
♪ The bold, bold ♪

1364
01:20:16,478 --> 01:20:18,146
♪ That old way bold ♪

1365
01:20:18,230 --> 01:20:20,440
♪ I say show us the old way, Syd ♪

1366
01:20:20,524 --> 01:20:22,150
♪ Show us the old way, Syd ♪

1367
01:20:22,234 --> 01:20:23,527
♪ Show us the old way ♪

1368
01:20:24,110 --> 01:20:25,987
♪ The one and only ♪

1369
01:20:26,071 --> 01:20:27,906
♪ That's Syd Xtravaganza ♪

1370
01:20:30,075 --> 01:20:31,952
♪ When you talk about vogue ♪

1371
01:20:32,035 --> 01:20:35,914
♪ You have my father José Xtravaganza ♪

1372
01:20:35,997 --> 01:20:37,833
♪ Show us how you do it, pa ♪

1373
01:20:37,916 --> 01:20:40,293
♪ Give it up for José Xtravaganza ♪

1374
01:20:41,419 --> 01:20:42,754
♪ All right, all right ♪

1375
01:20:42,838 --> 01:20:46,550
♪ Amara, here to give you that pump ♪

1376
01:20:46,633 --> 01:20:48,593
♪ That international pump ♪

1377
01:20:49,678 --> 01:20:51,930
♪ I said touch this skin ♪

1378
01:20:52,013 --> 01:20:54,224
♪ Touch all of this skin, honey ♪

1379
01:20:54,307 --> 01:20:55,267
♪ Touch this skin ♪

1380
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:58,937
♪ Give it up for Gisele Xtravaganza ♪

1381
01:20:59,020 --> 01:21:02,858
♪ I said Gisele Xtravaganza ♪

1382
01:21:02,941 --> 01:21:04,025
♪ I said that… ♪

1383
01:21:06,361 --> 01:21:07,237
♪ Gisele ♪

1384
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,198
♪ Gisele Xtravaganza ♪

1385
01:21:12,367 --> 01:21:15,620
♪ I said Joe Pellagatti ♪

1386
01:21:16,121 --> 01:21:18,665
♪ I said Joe Pellagatti… ♪

1387
01:21:19,499 --> 01:21:20,500
Here I am.

1388
01:21:21,209 --> 01:21:22,294
♪ Good, Joe ♪

1389
01:21:22,377 --> 01:21:24,880
♪ Come give us a walk, Joe ♪

1390
01:21:24,963 --> 01:21:29,092
♪ In the name of Venus
In the name of Venus, Joe Pellagatti… ♪

1391
01:21:29,175 --> 01:21:30,010
That's right!

1392
01:21:30,093 --> 01:21:31,720
♪ Give him a round of applause ♪

1393
01:21:31,803 --> 01:21:33,138
♪ Louie, where you at? ♪

1394
01:21:33,221 --> 01:21:35,432
♪ I said Louie, Louie, Louie ♪

1395
01:21:35,515 --> 01:21:36,766
♪ Louie, where you at? ♪

1396
01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:39,060
♪ I said Louie, Louie, Louie ♪

1397
01:21:39,644 --> 01:21:44,399
♪ Let me hear some noise
For John Pellagatti Xtravaganza ♪

1398
01:21:45,734 --> 01:21:48,320
♪DJ, pump the beat, X, X, X ♪

1399
01:21:48,403 --> 01:21:50,447
♪ Xtravaganza! ♪

1400
01:21:50,530 --> 01:21:52,449
♪ X, X, X ♪

1401
01:21:52,532 --> 01:21:54,534
[upbeat music continues]

1402
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,729
["Legendary Children"
by Byrell The Great playing]

1403
01:22:22,812 --> 01:22:24,439
♪ All of this skin, honey ♪

1404
01:22:24,522 --> 01:22:25,815
♪ All of this skin ♪

1405
01:22:26,399 --> 01:22:29,402
♪ All of this skin, all of this skin ♪

1406
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:31,780
♪ All of this skin, honey ♪

1407
01:22:31,863 --> 01:22:33,156
♪ All of this skin ♪

1408
01:22:33,740 --> 01:22:36,701
♪ All of this skin, all of this skin ♪

1409
01:22:37,410 --> 01:22:39,162
♪ All of this skin, honey ♪

1410
01:22:39,245 --> 01:22:40,497
♪ All of this skin ♪

1411
01:22:41,081 --> 01:22:44,084
♪ All of this skin, all of this skin ♪

1412
01:23:20,078 --> 01:23:22,080
[music continues]

1413
01:23:55,613 --> 01:23:56,990
♪ All of this skin ♪

1414
01:23:57,490 --> 01:24:00,660
♪ All of this skin, all of this skin ♪

1415
01:24:01,161 --> 01:24:02,912
♪ All of this skin, honey ♪

1416
01:24:02,996 --> 01:24:04,247
♪ All of this skin ♪

1417
01:24:04,831 --> 01:24:07,792
♪ All of this skin, all of this skin ♪

1418
01:24:07,876 --> 01:24:10,295
♪ All of this skin, honey ♪

1419
01:24:12,172 --> 01:24:13,548
♪ All of this skin ♪

1420
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,135
♪ All of this skin ♪

1421
01:24:19,429 --> 01:24:21,014
♪ All of this skin ♪

1422
01:24:22,098 --> 01:24:25,018
♪ All of this skin, honey ♪

1423
01:24:45,663 --> 01:24:48,208
[person] Oh wow. Okay. Oh wow.

1424
01:24:48,291 --> 01:24:50,585
Everybody, go home. Everybody, go home.

1425
01:24:51,086 --> 01:24:53,088
Everybody, go home. It's over.

1426
01:24:54,506 --> 01:24:56,299
Go home!