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(wind blowing)

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[Jason] Okay, so

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what are we, what are we doing here?

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This officer's been after me for a long time,

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on my case for, literally a year now.

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[Jason] Uh huh.

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I mean, she's never gonna find me.

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I've decided to pay her a visit,

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[Jason] So if she spots us,

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you'll take care of it, right?

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[Richard] This one's yours, Jason.

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I'm gonna say that it's time.

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It's time for you to make me proud.

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(birds tweeting)

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This is what being a Cannes
filmmaker is all about Jason.

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(car revving)

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This is where you really, cross the line.

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[Jason] I'm ready Richard.

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[Richard] Yeah?

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Yeah.

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[Jason] Mom and dad have kicked you out?

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- Just my mom. - [Jason] Just your mom?

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We never really got along, yes she kicked me out.

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I was on some friends' sofas,

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but they've moved away now, so.

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[Jason] Okay.

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And so what, you are literally on the,

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like on the street out here?

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For the time being yeah, if you could let me

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use your phone actually, that would really help me.

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- [Jason] Yeah Oh of course. - If I could call someone.

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I had no idea when I came over here, I'm so sorry.

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(heavy breathing)

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So how do you feel? - Good.

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[Jason] You sure? You sure you're okay to,

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be the one to be the one interviewing?

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This'll be fun.

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[Jason] And you, are you afraid

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that he might, you know, realize who you are?

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Isn't that kind of exciting?

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[Jason] I've got a bit of a problem.

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Huh?

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[Jason] I've only one bar on the battery.

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Uh oh.

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[Jason] I brought the charger,

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but we might have to spend more time with him, okay.

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Let's get straight to the meat.

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[Jason] Okay. (throat clearing)

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Okay, I'm kind of nervous. (nervous laughter)

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(door knocking)

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(door squeaking)

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[Jason] Hello, sorry, Mark?

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Yeah.

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Hi, sorry I sent you an email.

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I'm so sorry to come unannounced.

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[Richard] Richard.

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How you doing Richard?

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[Jason] I wanted to discuss with you about the,

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you know, the murderer at the moment

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and I was wondering if I could please

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perhaps, maybe interview you?

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Okay.

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[Jason] From a criminology aspect,

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would that be okay? - Yeah.

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[Jason] Are you busy right now?

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I'm so sorry for just coming unannounced.

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Yeah, come on.

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[Jason] Thank you, I appreciate it.

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That's very kind of you, thank you, thank you very much.

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You guys want some water or anything?

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All I got is water.

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- [Jason] I'm fine, Richard? - [Richard] Fine thank you.

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[Jason] So this is my producer, Richard.

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Is it okay if I sit here?

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[Jason] Yeah, please do.

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So you know, bit of a background,

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I understand that you are,
sorry, I need a cough, excuse me.

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(Jason coughing)

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I just had a cigarette and I don't normally smoke.

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I'm a bit nervous to be honest with you.

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So, you're here in London teaching criminology at

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a university, is that correct?

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- Yeah. - [Jason] Yeah, okay.

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So can you tell us a bit

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of your background, in the States, in Georgia?

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Yeah, I spent 12 years at the FBI, grew up in Georgia,

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joined Atlanta, then went to Virginia, in the camp.

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Started out just like a normal cadet,

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but then specialized in homicides

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and then kind of honed in
on serial killers after that so...

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(cars driving)

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(door shutting)

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Oh, I don't actually have an alarm system.

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[Jason] Okay, okay, what sort of locks do you have?

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I mean, do you have bolts? Do you have...

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(announcer talking)

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I mean, I pretty much just have my keys.

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I got two locks on my door.

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- [Jason] Okay. - Just in case.

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(cars driving)

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(door opening)

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- [Lady] Sorry can you-

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[Jason] Hi, how are you? Sorry, my name is Jason,

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I sent you a few emails, I'm so sorry to just turn up.

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[Lady] Yeah I don't know what you were doing there.

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- [Jason] I'm making a document-

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Oh, it's just a bit of B roll for

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a documentary that I'm making. - Right.

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[Jason] So, anyway, I was wondering, I know that you said

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that you couldn't really talk
to me, but I was wondering if

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I could just talk about your-

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[Lady] Sorry, is this camera on or?

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No, no, of course not, it's on pause.

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It's on, but it's on pause sorry, I'm babbling.

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I'm sorry, it's just, I'm so interested in criminology.

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I really wish that I had studied it

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and things like that,

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[Lady] Okay

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[Jason] But I went off to do film

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and listen, I just wanna do,

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I just wanna use my skills in order

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to maybe help you guys catch this guy

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or something like that?

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[Lady] I'm sorry, we can't talk about that.

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[Jason] But could I, sorry, just a moment please,

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please, just a moment.

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I will of course go in a moment.

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I was just wondering, is it possible

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to interview you about previous cases,

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or hypothetically ask you some questions on camera?

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Just so I can-

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[Lady] No, I actually emailed you.

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I remember now, I've emailed you a few times now,

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so no, we can't talk about it.

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Okay, but thank you, thanks, thanks.

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(door shutting)

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[Jason] Are you sure we can't talk about it?

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[Lady] Sorry, can you get your hand off my door?

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[Jason] Yeah.

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[Lady] We can't talk about it,

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now can you leave my property, please?

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(door shutting)

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[Jason] But I'm a journalist!

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Oh, people have the right to know, don't they?

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Okay so you're aware that there's been a string

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of murders at the moment and that we

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potentially have a serial killer
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I understand you're not involved in the case,

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you're not working with the

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metropolitan police at the moment, have you,

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how, how does profiling work?

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Can you come up with a profile on the spot?

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From reading the newspapers or anything like that?

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Do you have any sort of idea
of who this person might be?

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Well, I try not spend too much time on, it's kind

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of a darker time in my past,

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but there are certain aspects of the profile

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that are pretty obvious,
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violence at a young age,

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propensity to play with fire

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and bedwetting past a kind of a normal age.

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[Jason] Sorry did you say bedwetting?

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Yeah.

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[Jason] Wow, that's quite interesting, isn't it, Richard?

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[Richard] Interesting.

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After that, you know, typically they, you know,

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it's a hunting game to these guys, you know.

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So they like to stalk their victims,

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typically will maybe befriend them.

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Generally they're charismatic,
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a psychotic background, typically have

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little to no empathy.

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Toy with the victims before they kill them.

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Take trophies, so to relive it,

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So, you know, if I were to build a profile on, you know,

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what I have seen,

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I would start there.

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I'd start on kind of what the victim's profiles are

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usually there's a geographic area that

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the serial killer will focus on.

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Like a cat, you know, patrol an area, stay within

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the area that they know so
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so they can rehearse the crime.

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So I'd start there, look at

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where the killings sit on the map.

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There's usually a certain profile of the victim.

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So I look at profile tendencies

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and the victims that'll give you some indication,

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of who might be next.

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And then there's usually a modus operandi,

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although that tends to evolve over time as they

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kind of perfect their methods.

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So I'd look for if there was a modus operandi,

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commonalities between the victims.

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So I'd start there, so that's kind of

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how I build the profile but not having access

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to the evidence is pretty difficult

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to see exactly how I could do it in an accurate one,

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but that's where I would start.

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(box tearing)

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[Richard] Well, I didn't know if you were

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actually gonna like it.

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You've been looking for me for so long now,

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and I just, I really wanted to give you my heart.

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(Richard and Jason laughing)

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- [Jason] I bet you wish you
said yes to that interview now.

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[Richard] It's your turn Jason, it's your turn Jason.

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[Lady] Let go, get off! (Richard laughing)

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(Lady screaming) (Richard groaning)

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[Jason] And what do you feel this person might want?

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Probably what they always want.

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Notoriety, acceptance, dominance,

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thirst for power,

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to hurt and inflict pain on others.

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(wind blowing)

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I'll take you Jason.

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[Jason] You're gonna take me?

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(wind blowing)

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I'll bring you along.

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[Jason] Wouldn't that make me an accessory?

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Documentarian.

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[Jason] Hmm, documenting the first ever murder, Huh?

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First...

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Jason, you'd be there for the whole thing.

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[Jason] Hmm, it's interesting.

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Richard... You'd be out of sight, What?

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[Jason] You're not, screwing with me?

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- No. - [Jason] You really did this?

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Yes.

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[Jason] But why say it on camera?

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You say it's for a legacy,

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but I, can say this in the police station

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right now, and you're caught.

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(cars driving)

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I know what you're after Jason.

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This is an opportunity for you as well.

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[Jason] Immortality?

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Success, Cannes Festival.

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You won't turn this in.

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You wouldn't turn in a great painting, mint painting.

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No, you'll finish it, Jason.

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You'll even come with me.

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You'll watch me do this.

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I won't involve you, but you'll watch this, Jason.

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(knocking) (cars driving)

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- [Richard] Hello Miss. - Hi.

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[Richard] Is everything alright this evening?

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We have been reported of a
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Please don't be alarmed by my cameraman,

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he's here to investigate.

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- Okay, Okay I'm-

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I'm Just here to record the event, so.

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Okay, no, no, it's not okay.

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[Richard] Something happened?

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Yeah. Someone's just thrown a brick

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through my bedroom window, I
don't know who would do that?

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It's glass everywhere.

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- [Richard] Really? - Yeah.

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[Richard] Could we possibly come in

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and just have a look? - Yeah, come in.

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Yeah, and I show you the brick what it says.

264
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[Richard] Thank you. (paper crumpling)

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It says, die bitch die.

266
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[Richard] Oh my goodness.

267
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[Jason] Oh wow, oh my God.

268
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[Lady 2] Do you want me to show you where?

269
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[Richard] Yeah, that is horrendous,

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yes indeed I would like to see-

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- Okay. - The room You lead the way.

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(Richard sighing)

273
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John Wayne Gacy used to use a, fake siren, fake uniform

274
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to lure men into his car.

275
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What we have here, Jason, is a master, teaching a master,

276
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and now I'm teaching you, good?

277
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[Jason] Yeah, so what's the plan now?

278
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Now that she's unconscious, you gonna choke her?

279
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What you gonna do?

280
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No, wow, this is a fulfillment of my plan.

281
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[Jason] Richard wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

282
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I just wanna focus 'cause I want it to be nice and clear.

283
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Okay, now we've got it, go on.

284
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(Richard sighing) (Richard smashing a brick)

285
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(Richard sighing)

286
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Protect and serve. (Richard and Jason laughing)

287
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Should we make ourselves a coffee while we're here?

288
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[Jason] Yeah, so that's why you had me

289
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throw the brick through the window?

290
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You even used it as a weapon.

291
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Yeah, you see, we laid the foundation to our action.

292
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You see, we are able to circle around,

293
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give ourselves the weapon
without even having to able

294
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to get access in a complete zone of trust

295
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with our weapons already inside.

296
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It was, I mean, it worked perfectly,

297
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Jason, wouldn't you say?

298
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Yes indeed, coffee?

299
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Yeah, yeah, kitchens around here.

300
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[Jason] I wonder if she's got Nescafé,

301
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oh, this stupid corpse, hold on.

302
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Oh, I wonder if she's got Nescafé.

303
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(Richard groaning)

304
00:14:12,479 --> 00:14:13,312
Look at this.

305
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Coffee, where would she keep coffee?

306
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[Jason] Something here, Oh look,

307
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she's one of these annoying people,

308
00:14:19,510 --> 00:14:22,552
look, it's one of those crush things.

309
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(coffee machine pumping) - [Richard] Mm.

310
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Do you know I worked with an actor on a film set

311
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and he didn't like instant.

312
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He'd always come with me there, Oh Jason,

313
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this is how you do develop a-(mumbling)

314
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[Richard] Oh my goodness, wow, wow, the last meal.

315
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[Jason] Hmm

316
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[Richard] Home.

317
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[Jason] I always find those knickknacks annoying.

318
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You not worried about your fingerprints there?

319
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[Richard] No.

320
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[Jason] Perhaps you should just take that souvenir.

321
00:14:56,850 --> 00:14:58,038
[Richard] Hmm

322
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[Jason] Can I keep it?

323
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I like that Jason.

324
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[Jason] Can I keep it?

325
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,808
- You want this gift? - [Jason] Yeah.

326
00:15:02,850 --> 00:15:04,248
Celebrate your success today,

327
00:15:04,290 --> 00:15:06,228
'cause you were very, very good today, Jason.

328
00:15:06,270 --> 00:15:07,098
[Jason] Thank you.

329
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The perfect partner.

330
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- [Jason] Thank you. - Thank you.

331
00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:16,331
[Jason] Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

332
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Coffee, I'll put the kettle on.

333
00:15:18,498 --> 00:15:20,958
(Jason sighing) Okay.

334
00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,998
Not personally, but I've known people

335
00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,815
that have been stalked by people in the city, so.

336
00:15:26,857 --> 00:15:28,163
[Jason] Can you elaborate?

337
00:15:29,190 --> 00:15:32,628
Well, one of my friends, she was at college

338
00:15:32,670 --> 00:15:35,148
and she was really close with this guy

339
00:15:35,190 --> 00:15:38,748
and he used to stalk her wherever she went.

340
00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:42,093
When she was walking home in the park late at night.

341
00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:45,168
[Richard] What's the best thing you've seen?

342
00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:48,870
The worst thing you've seen from one of these guys?

343
00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:52,608
Is it okay if I chew some gum?

344
00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:55,008
[Jason] Sure, we're chewing ourselves.

345
00:15:55,050 --> 00:15:56,928
Oh nice, yeah, I'm trying to give up cigarettes,

346
00:15:56,970 --> 00:15:59,525
man it's a motherfucker, I'm telling you.

347
00:15:59,567 --> 00:16:01,098
(paper crumpling)

348
00:16:01,140 --> 00:16:03,078
[Richard] You've seen some stuff?

349
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,493
- Yeah, - [Richard] I'm sure.

350
00:16:11,843 --> 00:16:14,593
I mean, I don't think anything's the best but, worst?

351
00:16:19,541 --> 00:16:21,374
[Richard] The worst.

352
00:16:24,420 --> 00:16:25,420
Probably children.

353
00:16:30,270 --> 00:16:34,653
Seen some really fucked up stuff to kids, you know.

354
00:16:35,490 --> 00:16:37,340
[Jason] Can you describe the scene?

355
00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,000
[Jason] Start with the injuries.

356
00:16:51,570 --> 00:16:56,238
Clearly some sort of, sexual,

357
00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,393
advanced beginning,

358
00:17:00,180 --> 00:17:03,633
torn anal cavity,

359
00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:11,433
beaten, three broken ribs, he's got a concussion.

360
00:17:12,583 --> 00:17:16,233
From what I could tell the
victim died of a choking injury.

361
00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:20,210
[Jason] How did it make you feel to see the crime scene?

362
00:17:31,727 --> 00:17:34,813
Like I didn't want to know people like that existed.

363
00:17:34,855 --> 00:17:36,408
(engine revving)

364
00:17:36,450 --> 00:17:38,928
Like I hoped that even had been stomped out

365
00:17:38,970 --> 00:17:40,787
from the world before that but,

366
00:17:45,334 --> 00:17:46,263
it's not the case.

367
00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:51,648
This is a big moment for us, Jason.

368
00:17:51,690 --> 00:17:53,642
This is one we've been waiting for, Jason.

369
00:17:53,684 --> 00:17:55,038
(wind blowing)

370
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,381
I've been scouting out this girl for a while now

371
00:17:56,423 --> 00:17:58,323
I think she must live in this area,

372
00:17:59,340 --> 00:18:01,098
and she keeps coming back here,

373
00:18:01,140 --> 00:18:04,503
and I, my info tells me she's been drinking tonight.

374
00:18:05,730 --> 00:18:07,889
So tonight, you and me Jason we're gonna-

375
00:18:07,931 --> 00:18:09,108
(girl laughing)

376
00:18:09,150 --> 00:18:09,941
on the camera.

377
00:18:09,983 --> 00:18:12,708
[Lady 3] They definitely went home together, I know.

378
00:18:12,750 --> 00:18:14,688
Oh, I've gotta go, bye.

379
00:18:14,730 --> 00:18:16,248
[Richard] How you doing babe, you all right?

380
00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:18,929
Good, thanks, what are you guys doing?

381
00:18:18,971 --> 00:18:21,768
[Jason] We're, local filmmakers

382
00:18:21,810 --> 00:18:23,838
and we're working on an indie film,

383
00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,612
and we've got like the last scene to do after that

384
00:18:26,654 --> 00:18:28,488
we're having an after party.

385
00:18:28,530 --> 00:18:30,528
Yeah, so we saw you from over there

386
00:18:30,570 --> 00:18:33,001
and we were like, she's absolutely perfect,

387
00:18:33,043 --> 00:18:36,618
to be like one of the extras in our final scene.

388
00:18:36,660 --> 00:18:37,451
- [Jason] Yeah. - [Richard] Yeah.

389
00:18:37,493 --> 00:18:38,374
Me?

390
00:18:38,416 --> 00:18:39,207
[Jason] Yeah, we really need your help.

391
00:18:39,249 --> 00:18:41,098
- [Richard] We need beautiful...
[Jason] Absolutely beautiful

392
00:18:41,140 --> 00:18:43,914
[Richard] Beautiful women to be in the video.

393
00:18:43,956 --> 00:18:45,078
And you having a great time, I thought,

394
00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:45,911
oh maybe she'd do it you know.

395
00:18:45,953 --> 00:18:48,348
I mean, no, there's no way you want me.

396
00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:52,758
No, seriously. We have to have her, it'd be perfect.

397
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,318
So we're gonna hang out tonight, have few drinks

398
00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:55,569
[Jason] Also we're pretty sure we've seen you on

399
00:18:55,611 --> 00:18:56,830
TV already, have you done it before?

400
00:18:56,872 --> 00:18:58,218
[Richard] Yeah, you are actually famous already.

401
00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:00,138
But we haven't got any like real money or anything,

402
00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:01,301
but like... [Jason] Yeah but like-

403
00:19:01,343 --> 00:19:03,917
No, no, no not really famous, just a bit.

404
00:19:03,959 --> 00:19:05,508
[Jason] it's a passion project, it's passion project.

405
00:19:05,550 --> 00:19:06,341
That's so nice.

406
00:19:06,383 --> 00:19:07,174
[Richard] So this would be easy for you,

407
00:19:07,216 --> 00:19:08,148
this would be like, you know.

408
00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:09,678
It'll be good fun, and you said you're gonna go

409
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,118
for more drinks afterwards?

410
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,018
[Richard] Yeah, no, it's a whole party

411
00:19:12,060 --> 00:19:13,297
of people there, and everything.

412
00:19:13,339 --> 00:19:14,130
- Party, I mean-

413
00:19:14,172 --> 00:19:16,038
[Jason] Just do some shots, things like that.

414
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,238
[Richard] Yeah, if you're down

415
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,588
to keep having a party tonight,

416
00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:19,620
if you're up for it?

417
00:19:19,662 --> 00:19:20,453
Guys it's really late.

418
00:19:20,495 --> 00:19:22,305
[Richard] We really want to have you there.

419
00:19:22,347 --> 00:19:23,138
- That's a part of it-

420
00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:24,391
[Jason] It's 8:00PM somewhere though, isn't it?

421
00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:25,452
- [Richard] Yeah. - That's a good line.

422
00:19:25,494 --> 00:19:26,568
It's not like it's a school night.

423
00:19:26,610 --> 00:19:28,488
It'd be great no? - Okay, okay.

424
00:19:28,530 --> 00:19:29,538
- [Richard] Yeah? - Yeah.

425
00:19:29,580 --> 00:19:31,218
And you really want me in this?

426
00:19:31,260 --> 00:19:32,051
[Richard] We do right Jason?

427
00:19:32,093 --> 00:19:32,884
[Jason] We do absolutely, 100%.

428
00:19:32,926 --> 00:19:34,158
Okay, yeah.

429
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,088
- [Richard] You coming? - Yeah.

430
00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:37,406
[Jason] Thank you so much, thank you.

431
00:19:37,448 --> 00:19:38,601
Thank you so much.

432
00:19:38,643 --> 00:19:41,018
[Lady 3] Down here?

433
00:19:41,060 --> 00:19:42,582
(scrambling)

434
00:19:42,624 --> 00:19:43,415
[Richard] Shh.

435
00:19:43,457 --> 00:19:46,874
What are you doing, what are you doing?

436
00:19:49,740 --> 00:19:51,288
[Jason] I'm just the filmmaker.

437
00:19:51,330 --> 00:19:52,430
I'm just here to film.

438
00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:04,023
- You got it Jason. - [Jason] I got it.

439
00:20:05,220 --> 00:20:06,743
- Wasn't it good though? - [Jason] Yeah.

440
00:20:08,879 --> 00:20:10,283
What are you feeling right now?

441
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,298
This is my favorite part, get this.

442
00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:17,448
[Jason] Wait, wait, wait, Why her?

443
00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:19,158
What made you pick her?

444
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,268
She's perfect, this like, sense of fun but innocence

445
00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:27,258
and you know, like, and just so inviting,

446
00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:31,263
sweet, I just knew she was perfect Jason,

447
00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:33,983
look at her.

448
00:20:37,616 --> 00:20:40,033
(loud thuds)

449
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:45,383
[Jason] What now Richard?

450
00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:49,013
Let's go.

451
00:20:51,650 --> 00:20:54,233
(wind blowing)

452
00:20:59,190 --> 00:21:00,488
[Jason] What precautions do you take,

453
00:21:00,530 --> 00:21:02,673
like do you lock the doors?

454
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:06,768
- Like, when I lock the doors I
check them about four times.

455
00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:09,588
'cause I'm really scared and I lock my windows.

456
00:21:09,630 --> 00:21:13,668
[Jason] Okay, and when do you, do you have any sort

457
00:21:13,710 --> 00:21:16,610
of security measures, like
an alarm or anything like that?

458
00:21:19,530 --> 00:21:21,303
Not really, but, no.

459
00:21:22,514 --> 00:21:25,188
[Jason] And do you live alone?

460
00:21:25,230 --> 00:21:27,108
- Yeah, I do. - [Jason] You do? Okay.

461
00:21:27,150 --> 00:21:30,485
So what about-

462
00:21:30,527 --> 00:21:31,451
Do you have a job do?

463
00:21:31,493 --> 00:21:34,638
What sort of shift do you do? Do you have a job?

464
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,275
- So I work part-time at a bar.

465
00:21:37,317 --> 00:21:40,008
- [Jason] Okay. - So late shifts.

466
00:21:40,050 --> 00:21:43,060
[Jason] So potentially between like 12:00 to 04:00am

467
00:21:43,102 --> 00:21:45,235
you'll be all on your own? - Yeah

468
00:21:45,277 --> 00:21:47,028
- [Richard] I just, you know-

469
00:21:47,070 --> 00:21:48,318
[Jason] From the meetings that we've had as well,

470
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:49,458
I mean the only thing that you, you need

471
00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:52,488
to make yourself kind of look a little,

472
00:21:52,530 --> 00:21:53,685
a little sinister, you know?

473
00:21:53,727 --> 00:21:55,758
[Richard] I'm being myself here, Jason.

474
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,870
[Jason] I know, but you just need, just a little bit.

475
00:21:57,912 --> 00:22:01,918
I mean like, Ted Bundy for example, you know?

476
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,991
- [Richard] Yes. - [Jason] Like a little bit.

477
00:22:03,033 --> 00:22:05,028
Like you can do charming pretty well, right?

478
00:22:05,070 --> 00:22:08,958
You can act it, you can act on camera yeah?

479
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,188
[Richard] I'm Charming?

480
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:11,118
[Jason] You're charming, yeah sure

481
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,660
you're Charming of course but,

482
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,248
yeah I mean another thing is we've got a million takes

483
00:22:16,290 --> 00:22:17,688
that we can do here okay,

484
00:22:17,730 --> 00:22:19,106
we can make you come off however you want

485
00:22:19,148 --> 00:22:22,900
to come off, between us we can create an image.

486
00:22:22,942 --> 00:22:25,770
(background announcer)

487
00:22:25,812 --> 00:22:26,748
(Jason laughing)

488
00:22:26,790 --> 00:22:30,183
They might even be selling your face on t-shirts.

489
00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:36,408
Some of these serial killers
get worshiped don't they?

490
00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:39,613
[Richard] Yes, Jason. (cars driving)

491
00:22:41,340 --> 00:22:42,528
So they should be.

492
00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:43,668
[Jason] Okay We need to find somewhere

493
00:22:43,710 --> 00:22:45,502
interesting to do the next segment.

494
00:22:45,544 --> 00:22:46,715
(cars driving)

495
00:22:46,757 --> 00:22:50,208
Okay, So look, see this place here?

496
00:22:50,250 --> 00:22:53,663
This place used to be-(truck driving)

497
00:22:55,263 --> 00:22:59,568
Okay, do me a favor, please don't creep up behind me

498
00:22:59,610 --> 00:23:01,434
I don't know what you're doing okay?

499
00:23:01,476 --> 00:23:05,853
So this place here used to
be a police station, right here.

500
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,828
Oh, I've had the camera on all this time, cool.

501
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:09,661
[Richard] Really?

502
00:23:09,703 --> 00:23:10,540
[Jason] Okay, yeah really, Oh look at that,

503
00:23:10,582 --> 00:23:13,068
look that, look at that shot right there.

504
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:15,918
And then just can you

505
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,927
please try and look a bit more intimidating?

506
00:23:17,969 --> 00:23:19,878
(cars driving)

507
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,058
Oh God, you're all blurry I can't hold this

508
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,658
and do that at the same time Let's just move on.

509
00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:25,400
We'll come back to that shot okay?

510
00:23:28,493 --> 00:23:31,068
[Richard] I need to do something Jason, should I?

511
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:34,743
[Jason] Should you be afraid of dress part scene?

512
00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:37,253
Let's go over here, over here's nice come on.

513
00:23:37,295 --> 00:23:39,878
(wind blowing)

514
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,103
Wow, look at that mess, that looks cool.

515
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:51,228
Hey Richard, I'm thinking here,

516
00:23:51,270 --> 00:23:52,398
or would you like over there better?

517
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,928
[Richard] For?

518
00:23:53,970 --> 00:23:55,875
[Jason] Over here maybe, I don't know, What do you think?

519
00:23:55,917 --> 00:23:59,913
So we can go from here and
then just pan to you like that.

520
00:24:01,011 --> 00:24:03,348
And then I can ask you a range of questions,

521
00:24:03,390 --> 00:24:06,048
but you know, look a bit more brooding in it okay.

522
00:24:06,090 --> 00:24:07,755
[Richard] Well ask me questions, Jason.

523
00:24:07,797 --> 00:24:11,598
Okay go over there, look, okay, okay.

524
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,441
Just right, right here, calm down, calm down a bit okay.

525
00:24:16,483 --> 00:24:19,458
Sorry, okay, sorry. Okay, you ready?

526
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:22,683
- [Richard] I'm ready Jason. - [Jason] Okay, and action.

527
00:24:24,331 --> 00:24:26,914
(wind blowing)

528
00:24:31,290 --> 00:24:33,963
Well, schools were one of my places.

529
00:24:35,010 --> 00:24:38,913
Nylon stockings are great for tying them up.

530
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:42,993
You get a good elasticity,

531
00:24:44,970 --> 00:24:47,988
durability and they're accessible.

532
00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:51,963
Nylon stockings, are great for tying them up.

533
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,013
You get a good elasticity,

534
00:24:58,020 --> 00:25:02,088
durability and they're accessible, I have many.

535
00:25:02,130 --> 00:25:04,938
And most women have nylon stockings

536
00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:06,018
around the house anyway.

537
00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:07,788
You can just grab 'em.

538
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:09,948
I mean, there's stuff there to be used already.

539
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:12,138
The kitchen, it's full of knives.

540
00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:15,183
It's full of blunt weapons.

541
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,628
Go to their bedroom, suffocate them

542
00:25:17,670 --> 00:25:19,998
with their pillow, for example.

543
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,668
Sometimes I'll choke them out and then,

544
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:25,563
and actually revive them and
then choke them out again.

545
00:25:28,890 --> 00:25:31,590
And there's a lot of buzz in that, a lot of buzz.

546
00:25:33,219 --> 00:25:34,386
Terrible buzz.

547
00:25:36,270 --> 00:25:37,103
Choke 'em out.

548
00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:41,298
They're gone, they're yours.

549
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:44,373
And you bring them back and you choke 'em out again.

550
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,671
[Jason] You okay?

551
00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:50,118
I'm gonna ask you a bit of a twisted question.

552
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,523
If you were gone tomorrow,
did think anyone would miss you?

553
00:25:54,990 --> 00:25:55,823
Um.

554
00:25:57,188 --> 00:26:00,021
(engines revving)

555
00:26:16,350 --> 00:26:18,040
[Jason] What are you thinking?

556
00:26:21,114 --> 00:26:23,407
I can't believe she still doesn't know we're here.

557
00:26:23,449 --> 00:26:26,141
We literally just spoke to her.

558
00:26:26,183 --> 00:26:28,766
(cars driving)

559
00:26:30,430 --> 00:26:32,097
It's perfect this.

560
00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:43,653
(engines revving)

561
00:27:08,609 --> 00:27:09,782
[Jason] There's lots of cars,

562
00:27:09,824 --> 00:27:12,407
it's hard to keep track of her.

563
00:27:15,808 --> 00:27:18,558
(engine revving)

564
00:27:21,648 --> 00:27:22,731
There she is.

565
00:27:45,343 --> 00:27:48,976
(background chatter) (engines revving)

566
00:27:49,018 --> 00:27:49,998
(Jason laughing)

567
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,057
Yeah, she's not getting away from us is she?

568
00:27:53,099 --> 00:27:55,682
(wind blowing)

569
00:28:01,127 --> 00:28:03,960
(engines revving)

570
00:28:17,059 --> 00:28:19,976
- [Richard] Oh, close. - [Jason} Mm.

571
00:28:24,384 --> 00:28:26,641
Look at her, just unaware.

572
00:28:26,683 --> 00:28:29,124
(breaks squealing)

573
00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:31,833
(music playing)

574
00:28:45,066 --> 00:28:49,012
- Patience is sublime. - [Jason] Patience.

575
00:28:49,054 --> 00:28:51,504
[Richard] What's this board? Public transport.

576
00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:54,120
We have a decision to make.

577
00:28:56,248 --> 00:28:57,953
A big decision to make.

578
00:28:57,995 --> 00:29:00,578
(cars driving)

579
00:29:03,175 --> 00:29:06,828
(background chatter)

580
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:08,718
You are getting good at this, Jason.

581
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,760
[Jason] Thank you.

582
00:29:12,859 --> 00:29:17,859
(wind blowing) (background chatter)

583
00:29:26,454 --> 00:29:29,204
(engine revving)

584
00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:41,028
So we've been doing this documentary and oh hi, hey.

585
00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:43,218
Sorry, fancy seeing you here, how are you?

586
00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:44,548
Are you okay?

587
00:29:44,590 --> 00:29:45,381
Yeah, I'm okay.

588
00:29:45,423 --> 00:29:46,433
[Jason] Where are you off to?

589
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:49,830
I'm pretty much gonna go to the park for a little bit.

590
00:29:49,872 --> 00:29:51,127
- [Jason] Yeah? - Yeah.

591
00:29:51,169 --> 00:29:52,477
[Jason] If you don't mind me asking, which park?

592
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:54,009
(engines revving)

593
00:29:54,051 --> 00:29:54,842
Northwood park.

594
00:29:54,884 --> 00:29:56,939
- [Jason] Oh, alright, okay. - Right.

595
00:29:56,981 --> 00:29:58,185
I was meant to meet my friend there,

596
00:29:58,227 --> 00:29:59,525
but in the end he can't come.

597
00:29:59,567 --> 00:30:00,972
So I may as well just go to the park.

598
00:30:01,014 --> 00:30:02,518
- [Jason] Okay. - It's funny to see you here.

599
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,484
- [Jason] Yeah, sorry. - Have you been around?

600
00:30:05,526 --> 00:30:06,588
[Jason] Yeah you know, I've been like

601
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:08,928
just interviewing other people.

602
00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:11,676
We were just about to do a
segment with my colleague here.

603
00:30:11,718 --> 00:30:12,509
Oh, okay. (engine revving)

604
00:30:12,551 --> 00:30:13,968
[Jason] About, you know, reflecting,

605
00:30:14,010 --> 00:30:16,578
just come away from the bus, just reflecting today on

606
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:18,618
what's happened and things like that.

607
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:19,788
- Right. - [Jason] You know?

608
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:24,258
So yeah, okay, so if you see us filming around,

609
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:25,174
you know, that's what we're up to.

610
00:30:25,216 --> 00:30:26,238
Yeah I mean I know you're filming.

611
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,198
[Jason] Yeah, that's what we're up to.

612
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,500
That's what we're up to, okay, take care.

613
00:30:28,542 --> 00:30:29,650
Okay well have a lovely day then.

614
00:30:29,692 --> 00:30:31,590
- [Jason] You too, bye - Bye.

615
00:30:31,632 --> 00:30:34,465
(engines revving)

616
00:30:40,173 --> 00:30:41,418
[Jason] Well that saved us time,

617
00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:43,458
we now know where she's going.

618
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,450
Should we go get a cup of coffee first?

619
00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:49,223
Fantastic.

620
00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:51,473
[Jason] Let's go get coffee.

621
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:56,178
It's beautiful.

622
00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:58,608
It's so sweet, oh my goodness.

623
00:30:58,650 --> 00:30:59,613
Way of life.

624
00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:03,931
Very sweet.

625
00:31:03,973 --> 00:31:05,853
I watch them for hours really.

626
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:07,720
I would do too.

627
00:31:10,770 --> 00:31:13,413
[Jason] How are you feeling, Richard?

628
00:31:14,670 --> 00:31:16,038
It is a bit strange,

629
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,080
but I'm excited, to release some of my stress

630
00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:23,823
and find ways to express myself.

631
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,708
I'm definitely tightened up, I think, so.

632
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:30,118
And I'm just here to make you feel comfortable.

633
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,538
[Jason] Okay, so, before we begin, as I said,

634
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:35,508
we're doing a 30 day YouTube challenge,

635
00:31:35,550 --> 00:31:37,548
which I told you off camera.

636
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:41,298
So this is one of the first, this is day one

637
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:42,738
of trying something like completely new.

638
00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:44,930
We have to try something new every 30 days.

639
00:31:45,780 --> 00:31:50,323
Just for the, for the camera,
you do agree to being filmed?

640
00:31:50,365 --> 00:31:52,567
- Yes. - [Jason] Yes, okay, great.

641
00:31:53,550 --> 00:31:58,550
Okay so, maybe tell us a bit about yourself.

642
00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:01,668
You know, tell us what a professional cuddler is

643
00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:04,818
and why you need it.

644
00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:06,918
You know, just for our, our YouTube audience.

645
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,208
And yeah, just begin with
that, how long been doing it for?

646
00:32:11,250 --> 00:32:14,028
Yeah. I've been a cuddler for about a year

647
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:16,278
and I'm doing it because I love people.

648
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,251
I love helping them, and I know many of us can be lonely.

649
00:32:20,293 --> 00:32:22,188
[Jason] Sorry, I'm just gonna close the window

650
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:23,780
'cause of the background noise.

651
00:32:25,809 --> 00:32:28,758
(window shutting)

652
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,728
It's madness, I swear on Sundays they're not supposed

653
00:32:31,770 --> 00:32:34,383
to have any sort of noise going on.

654
00:32:35,730 --> 00:32:36,521
[Richard] It's all the time.

655
00:32:36,563 --> 00:32:38,017
[Jason] It's a law it is actually a law.

656
00:32:38,059 --> 00:32:38,850
[Richard] Yeah, really?

657
00:32:38,892 --> 00:32:40,488
[Jason] Yeah, they can't have Sunday pollution.

658
00:32:40,530 --> 00:32:43,368
Okay, sorry, what were you saying?

659
00:32:43,410 --> 00:32:45,461
Sorry, what was your name again?

660
00:32:45,503 --> 00:32:46,294
It's Alice.

661
00:32:46,336 --> 00:32:48,131
Alice, okay You look a bit uncertain now.

662
00:32:48,173 --> 00:32:49,242
(laughter)

663
00:32:49,284 --> 00:32:51,168
It's like, I think it's Alice.

664
00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:52,098
- Sorry-

665
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:53,208
[Jason] Hey, have you heard Alice?

666
00:32:53,250 --> 00:32:54,918
Who the fuck is Alice?

667
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,088
Have you heard that song? - [Richard] Yeah.

668
00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:59,568
[Jason] Still living next door to Alice, okay sorry,

669
00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:01,608
I've gotten sidetracked, I do that.

670
00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:03,900
I've only just found out I've got ADHD sorry.

671
00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:06,558
So yeah, tell us, let's start from the beginning again

672
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,513
So tell us about yourself, your name is?

673
00:33:08,555 --> 00:33:10,938
I'm just helping people who feel lonely.

674
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:11,771
[Jason] Okay.

675
00:33:11,813 --> 00:33:14,255
To feel less lonely and loved.

676
00:33:14,297 --> 00:33:15,768
[Richard] It's a wonderful cause.

677
00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:16,601
[Jason] It is yeah.

678
00:33:16,643 --> 00:33:20,358
So what, the people who you normally see, I mean,

679
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,435
what do they tend to be like?

680
00:33:21,477 --> 00:33:25,458
Are are they like Richard here or are they-

681
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:26,948
I meet every kinds of people.

682
00:33:26,990 --> 00:33:30,018
[Jason] Okay, is it people who can't really get a woman

683
00:33:30,060 --> 00:33:31,458
Maybe?

684
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:32,718
It's not about that.

685
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,758
- [Jason] Oh, it's not. - No.

686
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,218
I meet a lot of elderly people.

687
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:38,628
- [Jason] Elderly people? - No family

688
00:33:38,670 --> 00:33:40,848
or the families don't care about them.

689
00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:43,394
[Jason] Oh and they just want a hug?

690
00:33:43,436 --> 00:33:45,417
- Yes. - [Jason] Okay.

691
00:33:45,459 --> 00:33:48,878
I'm just a cuddler. (Jason laughing)

692
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,508
[Jason] I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh.

693
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:52,503
Okay you're a cuddle, okay.

694
00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:55,800
Yeah sorry. - That's fine.

695
00:33:57,497 --> 00:34:02,497
So Richard, is there any type of hug do you prefer?

696
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:06,333
Like a side hug, a full embrace or anything?

697
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:11,767
A full embrace sounds, yes, a full embrace.

698
00:34:11,809 --> 00:34:16,014
- Yeah, now do you feel ready? - I'm, yes.

699
00:34:16,056 --> 00:34:16,889
Okay.

700
00:34:23,643 --> 00:34:26,223
Just try to relax, just breathe.

701
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,058
[Jason] So do, do you ever like, play any sort

702
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,068
of calming music or anything like that? Or?

703
00:34:34,110 --> 00:34:36,288
We could, if you like, it's up to you.

704
00:34:36,330 --> 00:34:37,278
[Jason] No, no, no. I'm just asking,

705
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,582
have you ever done that? - Yes of course.

706
00:34:39,624 --> 00:34:40,415
[Jason] Is that something that you do yeah?

707
00:34:40,457 --> 00:34:42,708
Do you do massaging or? - No.

708
00:34:42,750 --> 00:34:43,700
[Jason] Oh, okay.

709
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:46,218
Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude

710
00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:47,808
I'm just trying to understand. - It's okay.

711
00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:50,268
What you what you actually actually do.

712
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:55,008
A cuddler is a is a bit of a new concept for me so yeah.

713
00:34:55,050 --> 00:34:56,984
You know - [Richard] Me too.

714
00:34:57,026 --> 00:34:57,859
It's very new, so. - Yeah.

715
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,591
Yes.

716
00:34:59,633 --> 00:35:01,498
[Alice] And I just want you to be comfortable.

717
00:35:01,540 --> 00:35:03,318
[Jason] It's, it's also very vulnerable

718
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,428
doing it on camera as well.

719
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:06,288
- Yeah. - [Jason] Yeah.

720
00:35:06,330 --> 00:35:08,793
Is there any positions that you prefer?

721
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,353
You could lie down if you want?

722
00:35:11,395 --> 00:35:14,358
- I could yes. - It's up to you.

723
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,893
- Should we try that? - [Alice] Yeah.

724
00:35:15,935 --> 00:35:17,159
You are in charge. You decide.

725
00:35:17,201 --> 00:35:18,617
Okay.

726
00:35:18,659 --> 00:35:20,213
[Jason] Oh, you're in charge, Richard.

727
00:35:23,735 --> 00:35:24,708
Okay.

728
00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:27,498
How about if I just lie here?

729
00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:28,331
Yeah.

730
00:35:28,373 --> 00:35:29,843
If it helps you to relax.

731
00:35:32,293 --> 00:35:34,460
How's this? - This is nice.

732
00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:38,433
Just breathe, deep breaths.

733
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:46,823
[Jason] Sorry, it was Alice, wasn't it? Alice?

734
00:35:47,967 --> 00:35:49,323
You know, you look, I hope you don't mind me saying,

735
00:35:49,365 --> 00:35:50,598
you look very pretty on camera.

736
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,918
Thank you.

737
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,388
[Jason] I should show you before you go,

738
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:54,580
how wonderful you look.

739
00:35:55,590 --> 00:35:57,618
Perhaps you'd like a photography session one day?

740
00:35:57,660 --> 00:35:59,723
I could just watch it on YouTube later.

741
00:36:00,613 --> 00:36:02,178
[Jason] Sure but I was thinking, you know,

742
00:36:02,220 --> 00:36:05,151
we could take some photos if you want later.

743
00:36:05,193 --> 00:36:07,698
I don't know, but thank you.

744
00:36:07,740 --> 00:36:10,755
Oh, you're very welcome. You know some publicity stuff.

745
00:36:10,797 --> 00:36:12,797
- Are you okay? - We-Yes

746
00:36:13,909 --> 00:36:17,913
I would-I like to try something
nurturing, very nurturing.

747
00:36:19,545 --> 00:36:21,393
Of course, of course.

748
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:26,508
Maybe something like this?

749
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:27,383
Yes.

750
00:36:32,009 --> 00:36:34,676
(clock ticking)

751
00:36:39,110 --> 00:36:41,703
- How do you feel now? - This is nice.

752
00:36:43,874 --> 00:36:45,393
Maybe we can close our eyes?

753
00:36:46,555 --> 00:36:49,155
- Yeah, think that would help? - Yes.

754
00:36:49,197 --> 00:36:52,530
(Alice clearing throat)

755
00:37:11,243 --> 00:37:14,076
(Alice screaming)

756
00:37:27,350 --> 00:37:32,350
(Alice screaming) (Richard groaning)

757
00:37:52,112 --> 00:37:54,862
(Jason laughing)

758
00:38:02,102 --> 00:38:03,102
The cuddler.

759
00:38:06,196 --> 00:38:07,529
This isn't good,

760
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,753
thank you Alice.

761
00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:17,103
That was comforting.

762
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:33,240
I am extremely relaxed. (Jason and Richard laughing)

763
00:38:33,549 --> 00:38:37,020
[Jason] Oh God can you believe that's an actual job?

764
00:38:37,062 --> 00:38:37,662
Oh, funny.

765
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:46,623
Question, what do we do with the body now?

766
00:38:50,423 --> 00:38:53,173
[Richard] Well, what can we do?

767
00:38:57,433 --> 00:38:59,628
[Jason] If you, if the Metropolitan Police asked

768
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:01,720
for your expertise, would you provide it?

769
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:07,713
Yeah, of course.

770
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,873
[Jason] Do you have any questions?

771
00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:18,030
What is it that you guys do?

772
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21,078
[Jason] I'm a documentarian,

773
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,968
so I've taken a break from filmmaking

774
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:27,918
for many years, but I'm hoping to get

775
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,028
to the Cannes Film Festival

776
00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:32,298
and I want something, something very dramatic.

777
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:36,273
Something that's gonna basically win the Cannes.

778
00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:38,783
It's a goal.

779
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:42,198
Right now we're interviewing women,

780
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,190
asking them, you know, how do
they keep themselves safe and

781
00:39:47,070 --> 00:39:50,231
Walk with friends, mainly guys

782
00:39:50,273 --> 00:39:51,948
[Jason] Try and stay in large groups.

783
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:53,418
- Yeah - [Jason] Things like that?

784
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:57,903
Yeah okay, so tell me more about you as a person.

785
00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:02,328
I think I'm quite adventurous, I like going out

786
00:40:02,370 --> 00:40:06,364
But yeah, the cities best place.

787
00:40:06,406 --> 00:40:07,705
And so have you, heard that there

788
00:40:07,747 --> 00:40:12,318
have been a string of murders recently in London?

789
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,798
I have, but I kind of avoid it.

790
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,171
[Jason] What precautions do you take?

791
00:40:17,213 --> 00:40:19,263
Like do you lock the doors?

792
00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:23,388
- Like, when I lock the doors I
check them about four times.

793
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:26,178
'cause I'm really scared, and I lock my windows.

794
00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:28,173
[Jason] Okay. And when, when do you,

795
00:40:29,572 --> 00:40:31,458
do you have any sort of security measures,

796
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,423
like an alarm or anything like that?

797
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,923
Not really, but, no.

798
00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:41,778
[Jason] And do And do you live alone?

799
00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:44,148
- Yeah, I do. - [Jason] You do, okay.

800
00:40:44,190 --> 00:40:45,918
Okay so what sort of measures do

801
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,938
you take against, you know, sorry,

802
00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:52,211
not being attacked?

803
00:40:52,253 --> 00:40:55,548
Well, I think the key is staying in busy areas.

804
00:40:55,590 --> 00:40:58,240
You, you can then see all sorts of people around here

805
00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:01,758
and stay vigilant.

806
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,168
I, at night I tend to find somewhere,

807
00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:08,460
usually in a park where there's no one around

808
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:11,598
but yeah, I think the key is just stay vigilant.

809
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,690
I tend to not really sleep munch at night

810
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,353
Hmm stay in groups.

811
00:41:17,730 --> 00:41:20,348
It's hard 'cause I mean, a serial kid is gonna be,

812
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:21,318
like I said, they're charismatic,

813
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,710
they're gonna befriend you.

814
00:41:24,285 --> 00:41:25,633
They've got, they've spent an entire life

815
00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:31,263
emulating people's emotions.

816
00:41:32,430 --> 00:41:37,053
So, it's very difficult for the average person to tell.

817
00:41:38,250 --> 00:41:39,400
Typically good looking.

818
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,375
I would say do your best to vet someone,

819
00:41:44,417 --> 00:41:46,817
I mean you've got social media that should help,

820
00:41:49,170 --> 00:41:51,863
try to meet their friends
before you go home with them.

821
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,618
[Jason] You mentioned social media

822
00:41:57,660 --> 00:41:59,523
I mean, isn't that also a danger?

823
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,560
Yeah, yeah I mean, obviously it's a way to groom people,

824
00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:12,547
and build an initial relationship with them but,

825
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:18,888
yeah, I mean, I think any,

826
00:42:18,930 --> 00:42:21,873
any media is is ultimately,

827
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:27,990
some way somebody can get to you.

828
00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:34,413
Yeah, that's why I teach English.

829
00:42:36,402 --> 00:42:39,235
(leaves ruffling)

830
00:42:56,502 --> 00:43:00,169
(Richard talking to a lady)

831
00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:25,680
[Jason] Fucking lying bitch.

832
00:43:30,930 --> 00:43:35,133
What if I was to buy you a room tonight,

833
00:43:36,090 --> 00:43:38,118
just so you're off tonight because you know

834
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,518
I don't exactly feel great that you're out here.

835
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,518
I'm not made of money, but I
could at least do that for you.

836
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,351
- I mean, that would actually-

837
00:43:44,393 --> 00:43:45,184
[Jason] How would you feel about that?

838
00:43:45,226 --> 00:43:46,818
That would really help my situation.

839
00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:48,198
[Jason] Yeah, yeah and I'm sure the

840
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:49,998
hotel will have a phone as well.

841
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,831
- Yeah. - [Jason] Yeah.

842
00:43:50,873 --> 00:43:52,068
Definitely, and then I could phone a phone a friend.

843
00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:54,408
[Jason] Okay the only thing is I'm gonna have to run back

844
00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:56,958
to my studio, first. - Okay.

845
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,548
[Jason] And then we'll get you set up okay?

846
00:43:58,590 --> 00:43:59,638
- Okay. - [Jason] How's that sound?

847
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,918
Yeah, yeah that sounds amazing.

848
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,018
[Jason] Okay, think at least phone the council,

849
00:44:03,060 --> 00:44:05,328
Just try and do something, okay?

850
00:44:05,370 --> 00:44:06,161
Thank you.

851
00:44:06,203 --> 00:44:07,313
[Jason] Yeah, because you know,

852
00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:10,398
you have to do something in life in order

853
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,958
to get somewhere, you have to understand that yeah?

854
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,078
- Yeah. - [Jason] Okay.

855
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,911
Yeah.

856
00:44:13,953 --> 00:44:14,928
- [Jason] Let's get you off
the street at least for tonight.

857
00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:15,761
Thank you.

858
00:44:15,803 --> 00:44:16,878
[Jason] Yeah and then maybe you can see there's a

859
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,548
bit of light at the end of the tunnel okay?

860
00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:21,558
Thinking far, let me just get you cash, okay?

861
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,136
Thank you. - Thank you.

862
00:44:23,178 --> 00:44:28,178
(leaves ruffling) (bird calling)

863
00:44:38,304 --> 00:44:40,804
(car hooting)

864
00:44:43,436 --> 00:44:46,103
(bird chirping)

865
00:44:56,850 --> 00:44:58,450
[Jason] Oh, it's closing down.

866
00:44:59,550 --> 00:45:01,488
So what is this place you wanted to show me?

867
00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:02,930
[Richard] That's not good.

868
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:11,150
This place is wonderful, for all sorts of needs.

869
00:45:11,220 --> 00:45:13,818
There was a lovely girl that worked here as well.

870
00:45:13,860 --> 00:45:17,290
Tools, assortment of locks and keys

871
00:45:18,153 --> 00:45:20,673
and nails, hammers,

872
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:24,263
nail gun.

873
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:29,358
[Jason] So you're gonna have to find a new place?

874
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,233
Yeah.

875
00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:40,293
The one why this is hard to find so,

876
00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:43,788
that is disappointing.

877
00:45:43,830 --> 00:45:45,618
[Jason] But they're everywhere.

878
00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:46,493
Yeah.

879
00:45:47,893 --> 00:45:51,363
I guess it's like a, a routine.

880
00:45:53,982 --> 00:45:58,982
(engines revving) (metal banging)

881
00:46:03,361 --> 00:46:06,528
Where am I gonna buy my fucking stuff.

882
00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:13,342
[Jason] There's other places.

883
00:46:13,384 --> 00:46:16,134
(engine revving)

884
00:46:19,678 --> 00:46:22,261
(wind blowing)

885
00:46:24,987 --> 00:46:27,702
(loud claps)

886
00:46:27,744 --> 00:46:29,591
(alarm sirens)

887
00:46:29,633 --> 00:46:32,716
(background chatter)

888
00:46:37,594 --> 00:46:40,261
(metal banging)

889
00:46:47,253 --> 00:46:50,003
(engine revving)

890
00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:05,513
[Jason] Have you had enough for today?

891
00:47:09,436 --> 00:47:12,269
It's a disappointing turn Jason.

892
00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:19,013
How does this-

893
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:24,783
where to next Jason?

894
00:47:27,115 --> 00:47:29,118
(wind blowing)

895
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,953
What do you wanna do next, Jason?

896
00:47:32,667 --> 00:47:35,478
[Jason] I'm just shadowing you, I mean,

897
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,120
do you wanna go home? Calm down?

898
00:47:38,187 --> 00:47:40,354
(raining)

899
00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:49,331
[Richard] If we're gonna do this,

900
00:47:49,373 --> 00:47:50,790
if we're gonna win this thing.

901
00:47:54,626 --> 00:47:56,959
How can I, grow as a person,

902
00:48:02,361 --> 00:48:06,278
grow into the public image that I might attain?

903
00:48:08,250 --> 00:48:12,288
The depression he's had and I want it to be truthful,

904
00:48:12,330 --> 00:48:14,568
and I want, I want us to win Cannes.

905
00:48:14,610 --> 00:48:16,158
It's not just about me now, I mean,

906
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,773
I want us both to win the Cannes Film Festival, but-

907
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:22,703
[Richard] I thought I was ready to have,

908
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,273
to really delve into this and to really do what I do

909
00:48:29,660 --> 00:48:30,783
on a platform.

910
00:48:32,152 --> 00:48:36,571
I'm really, I'm struggling

911
00:48:36,613 --> 00:48:39,975
if it's gonna look right and,

912
00:48:40,017 --> 00:48:44,140
and these are strange dreams
that I've been having where

913
00:48:46,741 --> 00:48:47,574
I come here,

914
00:48:49,402 --> 00:48:53,193
when I've been here, and I couldn't find you,

915
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:57,857
and, that is so tough for me,

916
00:48:59,157 --> 00:49:01,574
and I had these crazy dreams,

917
00:49:05,005 --> 00:49:10,005
where I almost linger outside your office,

918
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,942
and I know it means something to me,

919
00:49:11,984 --> 00:49:14,722
I know this is so important.

920
00:49:14,764 --> 00:49:17,270
This personally, I linger outside, I'm in the area

921
00:49:19,478 --> 00:49:22,936
of your place and

922
00:49:22,978 --> 00:49:25,811
I basically, for some main reason,

923
00:49:27,068 --> 00:49:29,568
I start, just following women,

924
00:49:31,996 --> 00:49:33,496
real women around,

925
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,523
and you know, I'm this person who,

926
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,223
finds great purpose and,

927
00:49:49,590 --> 00:49:54,590
is finding a spiritual path while by

928
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:58,188
actually following this woman around here,

929
00:49:58,230 --> 00:50:01,383
and killing them, that killed the person in my dream.

930
00:50:02,655 --> 00:50:06,168
Are these, are these women, are these people,

931
00:50:06,210 --> 00:50:10,833
these women that you know? - [Richard] They're strangers.

932
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,480
And, I'm trying to work out what

933
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,140
this means to me because it's on my way to you.

934
00:50:22,182 --> 00:50:25,983
This is one girl, right outside your office.

935
00:50:28,458 --> 00:50:30,108
And I knew that I was coming to you,

936
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:31,653
but then I found this girl,

937
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,070
brown hair, and

938
00:50:41,070 --> 00:50:46,023
she was actually taking two kids into the building,

939
00:50:49,773 --> 00:50:51,073
and then she came back out

940
00:50:53,756 --> 00:50:55,263
and, you know,

941
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:57,948
she had this wonderful,

942
00:50:57,990 --> 00:51:00,193
colorful dress on and she looked happy

943
00:51:02,459 --> 00:51:03,626
and she was...

944
00:51:05,351 --> 00:51:08,953
From that moment, I was no longer coming to see you

945
00:51:08,995 --> 00:51:09,912
and I left,

946
00:51:10,811 --> 00:51:15,811
and I began to question, what's controlling me?

947
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:19,323
I actually followed this woman down,

948
00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:23,973
around the area to the river where she was going.

949
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:29,823
Went down there and basically,

950
00:51:31,253 --> 00:51:34,030
I mean, I choked this girl in this dream.

951
00:51:34,072 --> 00:51:34,905
I choked her.

952
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,593
And...

953
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,240
but it didn't end there.

954
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:41,823
This dream was so powerful,

955
00:51:43,870 --> 00:51:47,500
and I looked into her eyes and I knew

956
00:51:48,947 --> 00:51:49,908
that this was a moment for us that,

957
00:51:49,950 --> 00:51:54,348
that she was then going on to her, to the next level

958
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:57,453
and actually hit her with a hammer,

959
00:51:59,709 --> 00:52:00,933
three to four times,

960
00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:05,013
in the center of her face.

961
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:08,763
I mean, she was almost unrecognizable,

962
00:52:11,250 --> 00:52:12,083
and...

963
00:52:14,211 --> 00:52:15,077
I left her there.

964
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:17,675
Right, Could we can we stop this conversation?

965
00:52:17,717 --> 00:52:22,016
Like can we cut this now? - [Jason] May we ask why?

966
00:52:22,058 --> 00:52:24,715
(tongue clicking)

967
00:52:24,757 --> 00:52:27,090
(footsteps)

968
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,968
Sorry, what are you doing in my house?

969
00:52:32,010 --> 00:52:34,098
- [Jason] Hmm, - what's going on?

970
00:52:34,140 --> 00:52:36,075
[Jason] I'm just filming, that's all.

971
00:52:36,117 --> 00:52:38,807
Who are you? Who even let you let you in?

972
00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:43,848
- [Jason] You know, he did. - [Richard] He's a filmmaker.

973
00:52:43,890 --> 00:52:44,723
[Jason] Hi.

974
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:46,650
What's going on?

975
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:49,301
- [Richard] Well-

976
00:52:49,343 --> 00:52:51,228
[Jason] I think she wants an explanation.

977
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:53,448
So how are you feeling right now?

978
00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:56,101
Can you, do you mind just sort of answering a couple of-

979
00:52:56,143 --> 00:52:59,393
Get off of me! (screams)

980
00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:04,699
[Jason] I got her, I got her, I got her.

981
00:53:06,486 --> 00:53:11,486
Get off of me! (gasping for air)

982
00:53:12,188 --> 00:53:15,045
(sirens)

983
00:53:15,087 --> 00:53:17,328
[Jason] Did I do good? Did I do good?

984
00:53:17,370 --> 00:53:18,743
Excellent, Jason. Okay.

985
00:53:19,890 --> 00:53:21,240
[Jason] It's hammer time.

986
00:53:22,775 --> 00:53:25,101
(Richard breathing heavily)

987
00:53:25,143 --> 00:53:30,143
Okay. (hammer banging)

988
00:53:34,251 --> 00:53:39,251
(Richard breathing heavily)
(Jason and Richard laughing)

989
00:53:48,133 --> 00:53:48,966
Well...

990
00:53:49,950 --> 00:53:51,123
Success,

991
00:54:01,770 --> 00:54:02,853
Fear and everything.

992
00:54:06,330 --> 00:54:07,637
Exactly what we wanted.

993
00:54:13,660 --> 00:54:15,143
[Jason] Do you think our husband's gonna miss her?

994
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:18,933
Oh, I know him, yeah he will yeah.

995
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:25,951
He's a, you know, he's a professional guy and everything.

996
00:54:25,993 --> 00:54:27,468
[Jason] Richard, go back lemme just make sure

997
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:29,243
this is in focus here okay all right.

998
00:54:32,536 --> 00:54:33,969
It's kind of exciting, isn't it?

999
00:54:34,011 --> 00:54:36,261
- [Richard] Mm. - [Jason] Knock on the door.

1000
00:54:37,460 --> 00:54:41,423
(knocking on the door)

1001
00:54:41,465 --> 00:54:44,048
(train riding)

1002
00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:52,428
Hi, I'm Jason, Richard.

1003
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:55,158
Ah, did you superior tell you about us?

1004
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:55,991
Good morning. - [Mac Allistar] Good morning.

1005
00:54:56,033 --> 00:54:56,824
[Jason] Very nice to meet you, thank you.

1006
00:54:56,866 --> 00:54:58,668
Mac Allister, please come in.

1007
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:59,801
[Jason] Thank you very much.

1008
00:54:59,843 --> 00:55:00,918
- [Mac Allistar] Do you mind
taking off your shoes, please?

1009
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,783
[Jason] Oh, certainly, sorry, thank you.

1010
00:55:06,339 --> 00:55:08,268
Thank you very much indeed, listen,

1011
00:55:08,310 --> 00:55:10,128
thank you again for having us.

1012
00:55:10,170 --> 00:55:10,961
No problem, no problem.

1013
00:55:11,003 --> 00:55:12,708
[Jason] I've already shaked your hand, sorry I'm nervous.

1014
00:55:12,750 --> 00:55:14,718
Are you currently recording?

1015
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,011
[Jason] Yeah, yes sorry, I am yeah,

1016
00:55:17,053 --> 00:55:17,988
I should've mentioned, sorry. - I don't mind.

1017
00:55:18,030 --> 00:55:19,998
I just need to give you a quick search if that's okay?

1018
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,898
- [Jason] Really? - Yeah.

1019
00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:23,238
- [Jason] Why? - You're coming into a

1020
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,368
Metropolitan Police safe house.

1021
00:55:25,410 --> 00:55:26,201
- [Jason] Oh. - I don't know you,

1022
00:55:26,243 --> 00:55:27,034
I've never met you before, just-

1023
00:55:27,076 --> 00:55:27,867
[Jason] Oh, okay.

1024
00:55:27,909 --> 00:55:29,118
- If you could just stand in
the background for me, please,

1025
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,488
Richard, take off the camera please.

1026
00:55:31,530 --> 00:55:32,481
[Jason] Okay, here you are.

1027
00:55:32,523 --> 00:55:34,053
Here you can hold onto this.

1028
00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:37,659
Hands up.

1029
00:55:37,701 --> 00:55:39,868
(patting)

1030
00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:43,758
Yeah, you're all right, stand it-

1031
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,218
swap positions please. - [Jason] Okay. No, sorry.

1032
00:55:47,260 --> 00:55:48,721
No, sorry it just caught me off guard, sorry.

1033
00:55:48,763 --> 00:55:49,846
[Mac Allistar] I've never even met you guys before.

1034
00:55:49,888 --> 00:55:52,881
[Jason] No it's fine, it's okay, isn't it Richard?

1035
00:55:52,923 --> 00:55:54,023
[Richard] It's okay.

1036
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,953
[Mac Allistar] Grand, please come in.

1037
00:56:02,474 --> 00:56:04,273
(Jason clearing throat)

1038
00:56:04,315 --> 00:56:07,732
It's not mine, it's a metropolitan police

1039
00:56:08,730 --> 00:56:09,858
safe house, so to speak.

1040
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:10,691
[Jason] Oh, okay.

1041
00:56:10,733 --> 00:56:11,578
[Richard] Have a seat right here?

1042
00:56:11,620 --> 00:56:13,313
[Mac Allistar] Yeah, that's fine.

1043
00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:15,813
So this isn't my place.

1044
00:56:17,310 --> 00:56:20,388
The police use this for different members

1045
00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:22,518
of the forces from the different, across the country

1046
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,908
come here and they stay, I'm actually out of here

1047
00:56:25,950 --> 00:56:28,650
at the end of the week, to be honest.

1048
00:56:28,692 --> 00:56:29,945
[Jason] Ah, I see, and so this is a part

1049
00:56:29,987 --> 00:56:33,453
of the new initiative of
transparency within the media?

1050
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:36,293
Yeah...

1051
00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:39,168
It wasn't my idea.

1052
00:56:39,210 --> 00:56:43,128
I'm not, I'm not particularly interested

1053
00:56:43,170 --> 00:56:45,303
in this aspect of the,

1054
00:56:47,610 --> 00:56:50,328
filmmaking, of documentary filmmakers,

1055
00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:51,438
I don't really agree with it.

1056
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,388
[Jason] Well, I mean that's completely understandable,

1057
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:55,548
I mean, you are here to catch criminals

1058
00:56:55,590 --> 00:56:56,898
not do interviews, I understand.

1059
00:56:56,940 --> 00:56:58,128
So thank you so much for your time,

1060
00:56:58,170 --> 00:57:00,138
we really do appreciate it, don't we Richard?

1061
00:57:00,180 --> 00:57:03,498
We appreciate it. - We appreciate it.

1062
00:57:03,540 --> 00:57:04,331
[Jason] Yeah.

1063
00:57:04,373 --> 00:57:07,188
So what's, what's your take on this?

1064
00:57:07,230 --> 00:57:09,828
[Jason] Well, I mean before answering that,

1065
00:57:09,870 --> 00:57:11,478
just for the for the documentary,

1066
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,758
we have to acknowledge that you can't

1067
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,698
go into complete specifics, you can only discuss

1068
00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:18,858
what's being shared with the news,

1069
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:20,703
we understand and we respect that.

1070
00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:24,798
The first thing we would like to do is offer you our

1071
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,808
sympathies that the killer has now gone

1072
00:57:26,850 --> 00:57:29,058
after one of your colleagues.

1073
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:34,100
We'd like to take a moment just to show our respect

1074
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,638
and how sorry that we are,

1075
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,038
and she must have been an incredible person

1076
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,033
because her record is,

1077
00:57:43,260 --> 00:57:45,768
from what your superiors
told me was absolutely amazing

1078
00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:47,688
and that you guys were very close,

1079
00:57:47,730 --> 00:57:50,658
it must be a hard time for you,

1080
00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:52,728
must be very hard for you to
take this interview right now,

1081
00:57:52,770 --> 00:57:55,351
so from the bottom of our hearts, we thank you,

1082
00:57:55,393 --> 00:57:57,948
and if you could just share perhaps a few memories

1083
00:57:57,990 --> 00:58:02,187
or thoughts just to moralize her on the documentary.

1084
00:58:02,229 --> 00:58:04,840
We need some uniform officers down here.

1085
00:58:04,882 --> 00:58:06,146
[Caller] Understood.

1086
00:58:06,188 --> 00:58:09,019
- As you can see-(inaudible)

1087
00:58:09,061 --> 00:58:11,689
[Caller] Yeah sure, I'll be with you soon.

1088
00:58:11,731 --> 00:58:13,596
- Officer police sir? - [Officer] Yes.

1089
00:58:13,638 --> 00:58:16,481
Yeah, did you get a statement?

1090
00:58:16,523 --> 00:58:18,286
(footsteps)

1091
00:58:18,328 --> 00:58:20,854
[Officer] Unfortunately I didn't, I'm so sorry for that.

1092
00:58:20,896 --> 00:58:22,265
Right is this your first day?

1093
00:58:22,307 --> 00:58:23,469
- [Officer 2] Yeah, I know I'm-

1094
00:58:23,511 --> 00:58:24,867
You see what I'm working with yeah?

1095
00:58:24,909 --> 00:58:27,084
[Caller] Bloody idiot.

1096
00:58:27,126 --> 00:58:29,523
Did you get anything? A name?

1097
00:58:29,565 --> 00:58:30,475
Description, what'd she look like?

1098
00:58:30,517 --> 00:58:33,017
He? No, no, no, no, okay yeah,

1099
00:58:36,055 --> 00:58:38,418
I need some people down here, okay?

1100
00:58:38,460 --> 00:58:40,510
[Caller] I'm sending forensics as well.

1101
00:58:45,711 --> 00:58:48,544
(heavy breathing)

1102
00:59:07,708 --> 00:59:09,828
- Yeah, let's get some-

1103
00:59:09,870 --> 00:59:10,703
Yeah,

1104
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,493
thank you for your words,

1105
00:59:16,260 --> 00:59:17,433
Anna was a real asset.

1106
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:26,560
She brought an incredible level of

1107
00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:30,633
professionalism to the force.

1108
00:59:31,890 --> 00:59:33,603
Very well liked, respected,

1109
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,943
inspirational to new up and coming officers and,

1110
00:59:40,530 --> 00:59:42,843
it's very tragic, it's very tragic and,

1111
00:59:45,450 --> 00:59:48,620
it's a motivation, you know, when one of our own gets...

1112
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:54,263
gets killed,

1113
00:59:56,310 --> 00:59:57,910
it's even more of a drive to

1114
01:00:00,180 --> 01:00:02,853
wanna catch these people, catch this person.

1115
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:06,873
The public are very concerned about this.

1116
01:00:08,610 --> 01:00:10,248
The serial killer phrase is something

1117
01:00:10,290 --> 01:00:12,190
that the media jumps on

1118
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,048
and people are scared, people are concerned

1119
01:00:18,090 --> 01:00:23,013
for their partners, especially women focused.

1120
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:27,858
You know, the police have
already gone through a, a series

1121
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:30,858
of allegations and smears
against certain police officers

1122
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:34,908
for their misconduct and I understand,

1123
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:37,360
I understand why my superior wanted me to

1124
01:00:40,530 --> 01:00:43,263
partake in this interview so,

1125
01:00:46,860 --> 01:00:47,720
you...

1126
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,998
both have been at pretty much

1127
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,558
all of the scenes as far as I'm,

1128
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,228
the crime scenes as far as I'm aware.

1129
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:59,573
[Jason] Have you and Anna been here together?

1130
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:13,100
- You have a strange line of
questioning in relation to Anna

1131
01:01:16,350 --> 01:01:18,558
I don't know, I'm beginning to think that-

1132
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,748
[Jason] Well, I mean can we just be upfront with you?

1133
01:01:20,790 --> 01:01:21,648
Can we do that?

1134
01:01:21,690 --> 01:01:25,338
We know and we genuinely we don't wanna upset you,

1135
01:01:25,380 --> 01:01:28,038
which is why I'm sort of tiptoeing around it.

1136
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,788
We are aware that there
was a relationship between you

1137
01:01:31,830 --> 01:01:34,218
and Anna more than a professional relationship,

1138
01:01:34,260 --> 01:01:36,588
which ultimately cost you your marriage.

1139
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:37,998
And I'm sorry for being so blunt,

1140
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,698
but I feel like you are aware that

1141
01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:43,518
we know something and I just want to be upfront.

1142
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:48,528
We can't tell you our sources unfortunately, but-

1143
01:01:48,570 --> 01:01:50,838
[Richard] It's very important for the documentary.

1144
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,638
[Jason] Yeah, how are you, we just want to know,

1145
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,768
how are you doing? How are you coping?

1146
01:01:57,810 --> 01:02:00,378
And also, are you and please don't take offense,

1147
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:03,648
we're just asking questions, are you the right person

1148
01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:05,028
to be investigating this case?

1149
01:02:05,070 --> 01:02:07,098
Are you not too emotionally involved?

1150
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:10,008
And how are you as a detective,

1151
01:02:10,050 --> 01:02:11,763
how are you separating that?

1152
01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:16,043
[Mac Allistar] That's a good question.

1153
01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:25,180
Emotional involvement is a big part of

1154
01:02:26,730 --> 01:02:31,023
deciding if a detective is gonna be on a case or not.

1155
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,888
I'm not quite sure about your previous line

1156
01:02:33,930 --> 01:02:37,053
of questioning in relation to a relationship and,

1157
01:02:38,250 --> 01:02:40,500
a personal relationship that you're aware of.

1158
01:02:41,370 --> 01:02:44,193
I'm, I have no comment on that.

1159
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,523
[Jason] Which is your right, which is your right.

1160
01:02:47,565 --> 01:02:50,058
[Mac Allistar] She was a good friend of mine

1161
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:53,328
on a, outside of the force she was a good friend of mine.

1162
01:02:53,370 --> 01:02:54,258
[Jason] Sorry, is that you saying that

1163
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:57,248
there's been no personal relationship

1164
01:02:57,290 --> 01:02:59,619
or is that you saying that you won't answer that? Sorry.

1165
01:02:59,661 --> 01:03:00,452
It was a platonic relationship.

1166
01:03:00,494 --> 01:03:01,938
[Jason] It was a platonic, okay thank you very much,

1167
01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:04,458
okay, okay, so in that case,

1168
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,188
it doesn't really affect you taking the case does it?

1169
01:03:07,230 --> 01:03:08,928
Really if it's just-

1170
01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:12,288
- Hence from, hence the
reason why I referenced conflict

1171
01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:14,778
of interest would very much be applicable here.

1172
01:03:14,820 --> 01:03:18,108
If what you had suggested to me previously,

1173
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:21,108
about a relationship that, 'cause that is not true.

1174
01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:23,718
My superiors are very happy for me to be engaged.

1175
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,660
[Jason] So there were no love notes?

1176
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:28,190
You know...

1177
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,058
They like to watch,

1178
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:37,008
you know, to return to the
scene of the crime and to watch.

1179
01:03:37,050 --> 01:03:39,753
And do you not think that they've seen you?

1180
01:03:41,340 --> 01:03:43,623
Do you not think that there's a possibility.

1181
01:03:45,030 --> 01:03:48,063
Shouldn't you be a bit more scared as opposed to being,

1182
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,498
overtly calm?

1183
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:52,711
You know?

1184
01:03:52,753 --> 01:03:53,932
(train engine revving)

1185
01:03:53,974 --> 01:03:56,401
[Jason] Do you hear that? You hear a train?

1186
01:03:56,443 --> 01:03:57,948
I had no idea that we were near,

1187
01:03:57,990 --> 01:04:00,048
we would be near train stations today.

1188
01:04:00,090 --> 01:04:01,840
I would've put my mics that I know.

1189
01:04:03,390 --> 01:04:04,728
[Richard] I find it comforting.

1190
01:04:04,770 --> 01:04:05,561
[Jason] Do you like the trains?

1191
01:04:05,603 --> 01:04:06,436
[Richard] Yeah.

1192
01:04:07,530 --> 01:04:09,230
[Jason] Hmm, Do you like trains?

1193
01:04:14,910 --> 01:04:17,210
I'm not quite sure what that has to do with,

1194
01:04:18,990 --> 01:04:20,838
this current line of questioning

1195
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,668
[Richard] You're hearing the trains all the time here.

1196
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:23,628
[Jason] Yeah.

1197
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:25,308
[Richard] Might drive you crazy.

1198
01:04:25,350 --> 01:04:26,388
[Jason] Suppose it's like living next to

1199
01:04:26,430 --> 01:04:27,526
the airport really, isn't it?

1200
01:04:27,568 --> 01:04:31,568
- [Richard] Same thing. - [Jason] Yeah, kind of.

1201
01:04:33,646 --> 01:04:34,437
Oddly relaxing isn't it?

1202
01:04:34,479 --> 01:04:38,607
You're here asking me about trains?

1203
01:04:38,649 --> 01:04:39,893
[Jason] It won't focus.

1204
01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:46,683
That's gone way better, sorry, carry on.

1205
01:04:49,818 --> 01:04:51,718
You are here asking me about trains.

1206
01:04:54,060 --> 01:04:56,398
As you're aware, police are
very stretched at the moment.

1207
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,118
- [Jason] Well, I wasn't
asking you initially about trains.

1208
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,758
We were talking... Just listen to me,

1209
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,788
Wasting my time, this is wasting my time.

1210
01:05:04,830 --> 01:05:06,453
You are asking me about trains.

1211
01:05:07,472 --> 01:05:11,178
I thought you're trying to
further the understanding of

1212
01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:13,998
the way the police force
are reacting to these series

1213
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,288
of murders, especially when one

1214
01:05:15,330 --> 01:05:18,948
of their own has been killed,

1215
01:05:18,990 --> 01:05:20,358
and you're asking me about trains,

1216
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,648
Do you not think this is a little-

1217
01:05:21,690 --> 01:05:23,838
[Jason] Well, I mean, clearly you're not a

1218
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,208
media professional 'cause if I can't hear you,

1219
01:05:26,250 --> 01:05:27,543
I can't get anything out,

1220
01:05:28,770 --> 01:05:30,221
that's why I was making the reference.

1221
01:05:30,263 --> 01:05:32,731
I'm a detective, I'm not a media professional.

1222
01:05:32,773 --> 01:05:35,013
[Jason] I know, but you are being,

1223
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:38,088
aggressive towards me at the moment

1224
01:05:38,130 --> 01:05:39,588
because you don't understand

1225
01:05:39,630 --> 01:05:41,268
that I could possibly not be able

1226
01:05:41,310 --> 01:05:42,528
to pick up your audio right now

1227
01:05:42,570 --> 01:05:44,478
because there's a train going past.

1228
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,178
I'm just saying that it would be a bit of a waste

1229
01:05:47,220 --> 01:05:49,728
of a time if I couldn't hear you correctly

1230
01:05:49,770 --> 01:05:51,918
because there's no, there's no mic.

1231
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,988
I'm not trying to be,

1232
01:05:54,030 --> 01:05:56,028
I'm not trying to make light of the situation,

1233
01:05:56,070 --> 01:05:57,108
I'm not trying to do anything like that.

1234
01:05:57,150 --> 01:05:58,458
I'm just stating the fact.

1235
01:05:58,500 --> 01:05:59,358
How does it make you feel?

1236
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,228
[Jason] How does what make me feel?

1237
01:06:00,270 --> 01:06:04,113
When you see someone, a young girl,

1238
01:06:07,230 --> 01:06:08,063
killed,

1239
01:06:09,330 --> 01:06:10,443
bludgeoned to death?

1240
01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:13,938
Does it not do, does it not do something?

1241
01:06:13,980 --> 01:06:15,228
[Jason] Well, I just don't understand how

1242
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:16,848
that's connected to a microphone.

1243
01:06:16,890 --> 01:06:18,768
I'm sorry, I don't understand how that's connected

1244
01:06:18,810 --> 01:06:21,138
to a microphone and to background noise

1245
01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:22,998
and to a train behind us.

1246
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,738
I wasn't aware that we were gonna be in a train.

1247
01:06:24,780 --> 01:06:26,058
I'm just saying to my colleague,

1248
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:27,280
can we at least close the window?

1249
01:06:27,322 --> 01:06:28,968
I mean, I'm just saying to my colleague, like,

1250
01:06:29,010 --> 01:06:31,675
I would've, brought mics 'cause you know,

1251
01:06:31,717 --> 01:06:34,878
I thought we were indoors and we've only got this mic.

1252
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,548
I was just asking you if you
like trains because it came up.

1253
01:06:37,590 --> 01:06:38,885
I mean, can we not move on?

1254
01:06:38,927 --> 01:06:40,578
Can we not move forward?

1255
01:06:40,620 --> 01:06:43,728
You are not professionals, you're not detectives.

1256
01:06:43,770 --> 01:06:47,778
You may pretend to be in your iterations,

1257
01:06:47,820 --> 01:06:51,288
in your storytelling and narratives

1258
01:06:51,330 --> 01:06:54,393
that you create around this but, it doesn't fool me.

1259
01:06:55,980 --> 01:06:57,933
You both,

1260
01:06:59,310 --> 01:07:00,498
are just here

1261
01:07:00,540 --> 01:07:04,698
for the sick aspect of glorifying in violence.

1262
01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:07,938
And you know what you actually
make me sick, both of you.

1263
01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:08,903
[Jason] So does that mean you won't

1264
01:07:08,945 --> 01:07:10,173
be a part of my podcast?

1265
01:07:12,690 --> 01:07:13,811
I think this conversation's over,

1266
01:07:13,853 --> 01:07:15,618
I think you two need to leave.

1267
01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:17,238
I have serious police work to do.

1268
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,283
I think the interview's over you can stop recording.

1269
01:07:22,814 --> 01:07:25,481
(door slamming)

1270
01:07:28,590 --> 01:07:29,423
[Mark] Jason.

1271
01:07:36,687 --> 01:07:38,187
[Jason] Richard.

1272
01:07:41,525 --> 01:07:42,358
Richard.

1273
01:07:44,563 --> 01:07:45,396
Richard.

1274
01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:51,350
I felt like I needed to be here and I don't know why.

1275
01:07:54,177 --> 01:07:56,992
Why don't you come to my office and sit down.

1276
01:07:57,034 --> 01:07:58,534
I'll get you a glass of water.

1277
01:08:00,540 --> 01:08:01,840
[Jason] Richard is gone.

1278
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:04,823
I know.

1279
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,840
We'll talk about that, come sit down

1280
01:08:13,259 --> 01:08:15,315
(water dripping)

1281
01:08:15,357 --> 01:08:17,388
(phone vibrating)

1282
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:19,430
To whoever to finds us.

1283
01:08:23,454 --> 01:08:26,841
I haven't, haven't been sleeping.

1284
01:08:26,883 --> 01:08:27,970
I've just been

1285
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,460
sitting here...

1286
01:08:34,020 --> 01:08:35,013
Waiting.

1287
01:08:38,638 --> 01:08:43,638
That-(Jason breathing heavily)

1288
01:08:45,824 --> 01:08:47,491
Just look at that.

1289
01:08:55,664 --> 01:09:00,664
(wooden planks creaking) (footsteps)

1290
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:09,583
[Mark] Have a seat. (footsteps)

1291
01:09:26,340 --> 01:09:28,143
Why are you in my home, Jason?

1292
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:32,400
[Jason] I am confused, I don't remember.

1293
01:09:33,870 --> 01:09:35,028
I don't remember how I got here.

1294
01:09:35,070 --> 01:09:38,401
I just, (Jason sighing)

1295
01:09:38,443 --> 01:09:39,543
I know I'm in trouble.

1296
01:09:41,670 --> 01:09:42,723
I've come for help.

1297
01:09:44,820 --> 01:09:45,740
It was...

1298
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,583
I didn't want to do,

1299
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,328
anything.

1300
01:09:53,370 --> 01:09:54,203
But,

1301
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:56,823
it was always Richard.

1302
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,213
It it was him.

1303
01:10:03,753 --> 01:10:04,586
It wasn't me.

1304
01:10:05,997 --> 01:10:09,373
The police have come, come get me.

1305
01:10:11,970 --> 01:10:13,203
Richard is gone.

1306
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,233
I got into this with the best intentions.

1307
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,318
I just wanted to make a film, that was it.

1308
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,708
That, that's all I ever wanted to do,

1309
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:30,498
I just wanted to make a film

1310
01:10:30,540 --> 01:10:34,773
and now I know that there is no way out of this.

1311
01:10:37,980 --> 01:10:39,843
Funny, Richard is gone,

1312
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,773
and now I don't feel,

1313
01:10:46,525 --> 01:10:47,323
I don't,

1314
01:10:47,365 --> 01:10:50,000
I don't feel like I know even who I am

1315
01:10:52,357 --> 01:10:54,213
it's just like a fog, I need Richard.

1316
01:10:59,010 --> 01:11:01,113
He isn't here.

1317
01:11:02,070 --> 01:11:03,993
He always knew what to do.

1318
01:11:04,858 --> 01:11:05,838
And what do you remember Jason?

1319
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,843
[Jason] The police, the police are closing in.

1320
01:11:10,710 --> 01:11:12,153
I know that they know,

1321
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,493
what we did together,

1322
01:11:18,660 --> 01:11:19,593
and I'm alone,

1323
01:11:21,330 --> 01:11:23,463
and I don't know how,

1324
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:25,743
I got here,

1325
01:11:28,620 --> 01:11:30,213
I don't remember.

1326
01:11:34,110 --> 01:11:36,674
I don't know what I'm doing here.

1327
01:11:36,716 --> 01:11:38,273
(police sirens)

1328
01:11:38,315 --> 01:11:39,982
It was you, Jason.

1329
01:11:42,650 --> 01:11:43,483
It was you.

1330
01:11:46,282 --> 01:11:48,243
There was no Richard to help you.

1331
01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:52,293
Don't you see?

1332
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,363
Your film, this documentary?

1333
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:01,653
You, are your film.

1334
01:12:04,710 --> 01:12:06,210
[Jason] That makes no sense.

1335
01:12:09,630 --> 01:12:13,353
Oh, Jason, how do you not see it?

1336
01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:16,833
It was an experiment,

1337
01:12:18,930 --> 01:12:19,763
Richard.

1338
01:12:20,670 --> 01:12:21,503
Me.

1339
01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:24,333
We are agents.

1340
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,743
In a bureau and you,

1341
01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:31,833
you are our product.

1342
01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:36,513
Jason isn't even your real name.

1343
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,303
- [Jason] What is it, - [Mark] Ryan.

1344
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:45,873
We needed to make a killer.

1345
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,293
We needed to see if we could control someone.

1346
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:56,433
And our little filmmaker was born,

1347
01:12:57,390 --> 01:12:59,013
and you have been a very,

1348
01:13:00,510 --> 01:13:02,088
very good,

1349
01:13:02,130 --> 01:13:02,973
lab rat.

1350
01:13:07,620 --> 01:13:08,993
[Ryan] I don't believe you.

1351
01:13:12,420 --> 01:13:15,297
I don't, no, I remember that you and I,

1352
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:21,558
we met before I brought Richard here.

1353
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,140
We met, I told you I wanted to make a documentary

1354
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:28,503
for the Cannnes,

1355
01:13:30,210 --> 01:13:31,578
Film Festival.

1356
01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:36,018
You told me where to find Richard,

1357
01:13:36,060 --> 01:13:37,908
who you had suspected had been a killer.

1358
01:13:37,950 --> 01:13:39,438
We were gonna bring him down together,

1359
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:43,788
That's what you told me, that's what you said.

1360
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:48,318
That's right, I gave you that information.

1361
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,503
I took you there,

1362
01:13:50,910 --> 01:13:54,873
But that wasn't the first time we met, Jason.

1363
01:14:00,374 --> 01:14:02,124
[Ryan] What, why do I feel funny?

1364
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,050
It's all a part of the programming.

1365
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,493
You see, Ryan, Jason is your control word,

1366
01:14:12,690 --> 01:14:14,853
the way we manipulate you and control you?

1367
01:14:20,490 --> 01:14:23,883
[Ryan] I don't believe it. I can't believe it.

1368
01:14:24,930 --> 01:14:27,018
The first time we met wasn't even the first time

1369
01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:30,378
that we met, we had met many times before.

1370
01:14:30,420 --> 01:14:33,594
Although it took us a while to bring you around

1371
01:14:33,636 --> 01:14:36,198
(Ryan groaning)

1372
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,840
But eventually we got you there.

1373
01:14:40,650 --> 01:14:44,343
You see, Richard's already been extracted,

1374
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,493
this is just the final bow.

1375
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,423
[Ryan] You know, I've got you on camera, I've got copies.

1376
01:14:55,620 --> 01:14:59,736
I've made copies, even if you
get me here, I've made copies.

1377
01:14:59,778 --> 01:15:01,638
(Ryan laughing)

1378
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,693
You, you are screwed, do you realize that

1379
01:15:04,735 --> 01:15:05,676
you are fucking screwed!

1380
01:15:05,718 --> 01:15:07,005
Jason, Jason.

1381
01:15:07,047 --> 01:15:08,547
[Ryan] Oh, whoa.

1382
01:15:10,177 --> 01:15:15,063
You see that programming works really well, Jason.

1383
01:15:16,710 --> 01:15:17,860
[Ryan] What the fuck?

1384
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:24,918
Why is everything so cloudy?

1385
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,233
You see, I advise that you,

1386
01:15:30,060 --> 01:15:32,140
figure things out relatively quickly

1387
01:15:33,540 --> 01:15:36,140
'cause my car is on the way, and when they find you,

1388
01:15:37,740 --> 01:15:39,018
let's just say they won't be as

1389
01:15:39,060 --> 01:15:40,893
happy to see you as I have been.

1390
01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:45,260
[Ryan] What happens to me?

1391
01:15:46,740 --> 01:15:48,490
Well, you've served your purpose.

1392
01:15:49,770 --> 01:15:52,338
You've killed the people we needed killed,

1393
01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:56,478
our product has done what it intended to do,

1394
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,273
and now like every lost toy,

1395
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,460
you will be tossed back onto the pile.

1396
01:16:05,810 --> 01:16:08,553
- [Ryan] Oh. - Good luck Jason.

1397
01:16:12,469 --> 01:16:16,610
I have a 3D printer, (water dripping)

1398
01:16:17,580 --> 01:16:18,603
artisan,

1399
01:16:19,470 --> 01:16:21,813
extensive research.

1400
01:16:23,940 --> 01:16:27,423
I have managed to find a schematic to,

1401
01:16:29,070 --> 01:16:30,213
print a 3D gun.

1402
01:16:38,077 --> 01:16:40,494
I'd like to apologize to the,

1403
01:16:41,940 --> 01:16:44,943
family's of the deceased.

1404
01:16:48,300 --> 01:16:50,493
Whoever finds these tapes,

1405
01:16:53,190 --> 01:16:54,213
please,

1406
01:16:56,490 --> 01:16:58,143
please make this story known.

1407
01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:03,753
Please finish my film,

1408
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:07,100
and get the truth out there.

1409
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:13,870
Please show the world how I was used and manipulated

1410
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,154
and how sorry-(banging on the door)

1411
01:17:20,196 --> 01:17:22,215
[Police] Police, open the door!

1412
01:17:22,257 --> 01:17:24,093
How sorry I really am.

1413
01:17:29,984 --> 01:17:33,904
(gun cocking) (gunshot)

1414
01:17:33,946 --> 01:17:36,279
(loud thud)