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OK...
so what happens?
- Um...
I'm actually with, uh...
with Natalee walking along the beach.
We lay down together in the sand...
And we start kissing each other.
I start feeling her up again, she tells me no.
Joran, Joran!
It's a name we'd hope we never have to hear again,
Joran van der Sloot.
She's laying down unconscious...
Possibly even, uh, even dead.
I decide to take her and to put her into the ocean.
That's not what happened. I'm convinced of that.
There's absolutely no reason to believe me.
I would probably not believe myself, no.
This kid got away with it.
So why does he kill another person
when he was as free as a bird?
Joran, Joran!
Joran van der Sloot,
a suspect in the disappearance
of Natalee Holloway, is now the number one suspect
in the murder of a young woman here in Lima.
He shows absolutely no remorse.
He shows such a lack of concern.
But if you don't think that this story
could get any darker,
stand by, because it does.
A surprising development in a mystery
going back almost 20 years.
- Van der Sloot is accused of
offering to tell Natalee's family
where she was buried in exchange for $1/4 million.
To come up with this master plan of extorting
the grieving mother, it's so far beyond
what you would expect even a psychopathic killer to do.
- 18 years later, my mom is standing in the courthouse
within feet of the guy that--
that killed my sister.
He has single-handedly destroyed everyone around him
just for his own selfish existence on this earth.
- It's just important for everyone to know the truth.
- He's incapable of telling the truth.
He's a pathological liar.
Mm...
First, a very serious story.
A high school senior from Alabama is missing today.
She disappeared during a trip to Aruba.
She was there celebrating her graduation.
Nicknamed "Hootie,"
Natalee went to Aruba on a senior trip.
This story just broke across the wires today.
We're going to be following it up on it tomorrow.
I remember sitting on the bus
and one of our chaperones saying, you know,
has anyone seen Natalee?
Everyone is here except for Natalee.
And so at first,
she must have, like, been sleeping through her alarm.
Um...
But then very, very quickly, it took a pretty scary turn.
She wasn't in her room.
She wasn't on the beach.
We collectively started trying to understand, like,
who saw her last and who was she with.
A lot of us were not prepared to leave without her.
We were all just devastated. Just devastated.
This is what our parents had always
told us to be careful of.
Natalee is a good girl from a good family,
straight-A student, she's about to go off to college.
All right. Who's our special guest today?
- It's Hootie. - Hootie Hoo Holloway.
Hi, friend.
Just, you know, sitting in the back,
cruising over to my place.
Called her Hootie. She was hilarious.
There's Hootie.
But if she liked or didn't like something, you knew.
A fearless friend, so completely herself.
Like so silly, so fun, so smart.
She had a full scholarship to the University of Alabama.
Her plan was to do pre-med.
She earned that. She worked so hard.
I have no doubt that she would
be the best physician out there.
How could this happen?
When you were watching this,
you just wanted the worst-case scenario not to be true.
She's approximately 5'5". She weighs about 110 pounds.
Beth Holloway is absolutely convinced
that something has happened.
She's desperate to find Natalee,
and she actually arranges to be flown down to the island.
By the time we were home, Beth was in Aruba.
We all gathered at my house,
just trying to rack our brains,
relay any information that we possibly can back to Beth.
Within hours, we had realized who Joran was.
One friend could describe him and she could name him.
Beth goes to the Holiday Inn where Natalee had been staying.
And at the desk is a woman who remembers Natalee.
And when Beth says the name Joran,
she knows exactly who he is.
He's here often.
She said, oh, that's Joran van der Sloot,
he likes to prey upon young female tourists.
When I heard that, I was like, oh, my gosh.
Oh dear God, you know, he got one, you know?
She didn't answer her phone, so it was not normal.
My dad got worried,
and he started to call all her friends.
Then we find out that the last place that they saw her
was entering to the casino.
The family approached the owner of the casino.
They bring the Flores' family into the back room
and they start matching up the cameras.
They find Stephany.
They see the guy standing next to her.
You see them on the casino floor.
They're gambling together
and this is camera after camera,
just one angle cutting to the next.
You can trace their movements through the casino
until they walk out of the casino into the dark together.
So at that point, they have a face.
They don't have a name yet,
but Joran had registered for a prize at the casino.
So when he registered for that,
he put down his name.
So all of a sudden, they have a name,
they have a face,
punched it into the internet, oh, my God.
And at that moment, we find out who he was.
They're frantic.
There's just howls and shrieking
and they know that the daughter's probably dead.
It was Natalee who asked me to go out with her.
It was her that asked me to come to the club.
It was her that was yelling at me to go dance with her.
Psychiatrists aren't allowed to diagnose public figures
without having personally assessed them.
That said, everything I've read about him
is consistent with what you would see
if he were psychopathic.
Externalizing blame is a real hallmark of psychopathy
where everything is somebody else's fault.
It's never your fault.
You can always come up with a reason
that somebody else is really to blame.
She came to me, she was the one that talked to me.
And she wanted to come with us
and... it was probably a bad choice.
We probably should have told her
she had to get out of the car.
And then you never know what would have happened.
The teenager was last seen leaving this establishment
on Monday morning at 1:30.
That night, Natalee was one of my buddies.
A lot of us are up on the bar
dancing and talking, and I snapped a photo.
And you can see Natalee talking to one of our friends,
and we were just having a great time.
So when we were all ready to go home, we were starving,
and we were at the food truck
right outside Carlos'n Charlie's.
And this is when I saw Natalee in a car.
The car was silver...
and she was in the back seat.
I can see her waving to us.
I see it so vividly.
She was really happy.
She was laughing and singing and waving to us.
And so we literally were like,
oh, how funny, there goes Natalee.
I guess she got a ride home.
And...
That was the last time we saw her.
- Her parents showed up at my door with her picture.
I didn't even know who Natalee Holloway was.
I didn't even know her name.
Beth is really anxious.
She's very worried about her daughter.
Now she has a name, she's able to get an address.
And she goes back to the police station
because she wants help.
I knew a lot of the police guys.
On a small island, we grow up together.
I spoke English like an American.
And I looked more American
than some of the other people trying to help.
So I said I'd be glad to help in any way I could.
Beth was very grieving and very frustrated,
but she was definitely on a mission.
I asked the police, do you know where the guy lives?
And she said, yeah, yeah.
So we went and we drove around the house.
And I saw the silver car.
So I felt settled in that we were at the right place.
Police knock on the door.
Joran van der Sloot's father, Paulus, answers the door.
Then father said to Joran, tell them what you know.
And Joran said, no, I don't know anything about her.
I don't know who it is. I did meet her.
We went out and had some drinks.
But no, that's as far as it goes.
And I said, you better tell the truth.
Whatever it is, if you did nothing, say that.
Don't lie because you're going to get in a lot of trouble.
And then he said we took her to the Holiday Inn.
And at the Holiday Inn, she got out and she tripped.
When she tripped, she banged her head,
then went into the Holiday Inn,
but never came back and they left.
The feeling I got was that he wasn't solid, you know.
It's just a feeling that you get
from people when they're not solid
about what they're saying.
I didn't know if he was guilty,
but I did feel that he wasn't innocent.
And at that point,
father looked at the crowd and he said that's it.
Joran van der Sloot's family
was very influential on the island.
His mother was well-known and well-liked.
She was a schoolteacher.
His father was a prominent lawyer up for a judgeship.
- Joran had moved to Aruba when he was a young boy,
but he'd been born back in the Netherlands
and the father wanted to work his way up in the legal ranks,
and maybe going to a far-flung outpost
was a way for him to get a judgeship.
So the family wound up in this island paradise.
For a teenage boy, there was a lot to do.
He had kind of the run of the island
and he had a mean streak.
I mean, we had heard that he had anger issues.
We would hear that from former girlfriends
or people who knew the family.
- There had been reports of his abuse of animals.
He had thrown a homeless man off of a bridge,
much to his amusement.
There were reports from women on the island
that he had harassed or sexually pressured young girls.
One of the girls was as young as 12.
But the problem was any of the women
who had come forward were so frightened
by this media that was now on the island
that we really were never able to get
a full picture of what exactly had transpired.
Joran was creating some tension in the home as well.
He had two younger brothers
and was bullying one in particular.
And at that point, the family said,
OK, this has gone on too far.
Deliberately harming an innocent victim
just for the fun of it, stealing, lying,
when you start seeing not just
one kind of antisocial behavior,
but a whole range of them, that's when you start
suspecting a kid has a real disorder of aggression.
These are children who are at risk
of becoming psychopathic as adults.
His mother, Anita, did seek help
and did have Joran speak with a therapist on the island.
And at one point, Joran was moved from the house
and into this guest cottage where he could be on his own
and there was a physical separation
between the brothers.
And that gave him the ability to just
come and go as he pleased.
So he looked older for his age.
He could go into casinos, gamble.
You could get free drinks while you're gambling.
It was perfect and nobody questioned him.
Joran is a teenager,
17-year-old teenager like every other boy.
He's a very honest boy. He's very sincere.
Why--why would a boy who has enough friends,
who has a normal life going on,
why would a boy do something wrong to a girl he just met?
The truth will come out.
And when I look at this boy,
I only can say he's telling the truth.
Next day, the police found her vehicle in an alley.
He had changed his appearance by the time he got to the car.
He shaved his hair somewhat. He had dyed it.
He had changed his clothes.
He knew that everyone was looking for him at that point.
As you know, our primary goal is to bring Natalee back home.
We will do whatever it takes.
There is a significant reward
for the person who returns Natalee to us safely.
Please help bring her home.
The disappearance of Natalee Holloway
topped the ratings over the Iraq War.
I mean, the fascination with the story
was like nothing we'd ever seen, you know, since OJ.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
- . - Can you give us a statement?
- Hey, hey, hey. - Talk to us.
It was the perfect storm.
But let's go to Michelle Kosinski for the very latest.
Michelle, what's been going on today?
Today was really about emotion.
First, we saw Natalee Holloway's mother,
Beth, go--
There are so many aspects to it
that grip people's attention.
There's the mystery of it.
There's the sympathetic fear of I'm a parent,
I send my kids away to camp or whatever,
and you tell yourself, oh, what are the odds, you know.
And then something happens like on this level.
You can't stop watching.
And you want everything to be OK,
but you kind of know it isn't.
And then you want to know who did it and why.
We have no information, no clothing,
no foot marks, no blood,
nothing to go off of to be able to dictate
what happened to this literal angel.
They can find the haystack, we can find the needles,
so the problem is where's the haystack?
The FBI was here.
Search dogs were here.
The Dutch army even flew over Aruba
with special airplanes that could detect heat.
Summer 2005 was a complete roller-coaster
with media because it would be this person has this lead.
The security camera at a gas station
reportedly caught an image
of what someone thought was Natalee Holloway.
Then it was big hopes, super exciting.
And in my mind, I was like, oh, my gosh,
we could talk to her tomorrow.
We know that she's on the island.
It really feels strongly that she's
being kept against her will.
Well, you know, and it was so thrilling and so exciting.
It turned out those blonde hairs
that were found on duct tape
a few weeks ago were not Natalee's.
Crash. Nothing.
I had that gut feeling that, uh...
just as a parent, you just have that feeling
that she's not here anymore.
But on the other hand, I had to convince everybody else
that I had the wrong feelings,
that maybe we would find her alive or whatever.
But I had that sinking feeling that things aren't right.
I remember my dad jumping down into a landfill
and just physically ripping open trash bags, garbage bags,
moving large appliances,
picking up stuff with his bare hands
and just searching for Natalee's body.
My dad was in that 100%
and seeing that was really powerful.
There's a lot of times over the years
where sunglasses were my best friend.
And, you know,
to hide the tears that were running down your face.
So I started having panic attacks,
and the attacks became so bad,
I thought I was going to have a heart attack.
Sometimes you lose it and you start
just digging in a sand dune or--
let's look in this hole, you know,
knowing that there's nothing there,
you know, but let's do it.
It's just really hard to be around
that kind of loss and emotion.
Like, that kind of loss, it's so awful.
It's so deep and you're around it day after day, you know.
Authorities continue to question
three men Holloway was last seen with.
Dutch teen, Joran van der Sloot,
and Surinamese brothers, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe.
All three men apparently acknowledged
giving her a ride back to her hotel
the night of her disappearance.
They had interviewed the three suspects,
and they said the route they took
was around the lighthouse, and then they came back
and dropped her off in the lobby of the Holiday Inn.
The surveillance footage of the Holiday Inn was viewed
and we found out that she did not return to the hotel.
There is absolutely no footage of her
anywhere outside of the hotel.
There's no car dropping her off.
And at this point,
Joran van der Sloot's story begins to change.
So now he claims that he took Natalee to the beach
and that he left Natalee at the beach.
I-I thought maybe she'd understand.
She told me, no, she wanted me to stay there with her
because the next day she was leaving
and she wanted to stay there the whole night.
I told her, no, I had to go.
I even--I even lifted her up to carry her back to her hotel.
And she told me to put her down.
And he claims that he called one of the Kalpoe brothers,
Deepak, to come and pick him up.
And that he went home.
But...
Police had gone back and they were able to discover
that, in fact, Deepak was home that night on his computer.
And at some time after 3:00 a.m.,
Joran had sent him a message saying, I'm home.
The story was unraveling.
As pieces of evidence came in that worked against him,
he would switch his story.
- I would love for someone to come and tell me
if there's anything worse I did because
I've never touched a girl in an aggressive way in my life.
Truly pathological liars, that's exactly how they lie.
When the lie is disproven,
you turn around and tell another lie
without even stopping to catch your breath.
That's true pathological lying.
How did you feel when you left her?
Well, at the time I didn't--
I didn't feel it was a bad idea.
At the time, I really didn't.
You know, like you don't care about the truth.
I think one of the early pictures I saw of him,
he had a little bit of a smirk on his face...
Which I remember thinking was a little bit surprising
for somebody who was being, you know,
falsely accused of a terrible crime you didn't commit.
What was the last thing that she said to you?
Um--I--she didn't say any last thing to me.
The last thing I said to her was bye.
He came across as cocky and not caring.
It didn't faze him at all.
I think Joran felt untouchable
because of his father's status on the island.
How's he doing?
Paulus has a very close relationship
to the Chief of Police, van der Straaten.
They know each other from the Netherlands
and there was speculation that Chief van der Straaten
is Joran van der Sloot's godfather.
This is my name, Commissioner van der Straaten.
And at some point, we learn that a meeting has taken place
at the van der Sloot home between Paulus van der Sloot,
his son, Joran, and the two Kalpoe brothers.
The prosecutor's office let us know that
Joran van der Sloot's father
allegedly told all three of the boys
that without a body, there is no case.
It is believed that Paulus was
counseling the three of them to not say anything,
not speak to police.
Because if there is no body, there is no crime.
At that point, suspicion starts to really move
to Joran's father, Paulus.
Is there anything you'd like to say?
What does he know? What is he counseling his son?
Are they trying to get their story straight?
There's a belief that perhaps Paulus was directly involved
in whatever it was
that happened to Natalee's body after she died.
11 days after Natalee disappeared,
police arrested Joran the very day
he was supposed to have graduated from high school.
Finally, finally,
Joran van der Sloot is arrested under suspicion of murder.
There's a lot of questions about why now.
Authorities are saying that
they are doing everything methodically, carefully,
and by the book.
There was no real piece of evidence
linking him to Natalee's disappearance.
But unlike our system where you need to have evidence,
in the Dutch system,
you are able to hold somebody under suspicion.
It's called a preventive detention.
And during that period is when the investigation goes deeper.
With no real evidence to further this case,
police were really looking at ways
to try and get him to speak.
And they did countless interviews with him.
These were intense multi-hour interrogations.
The interrogations, of course,
were horrible because they put--
they put stuff in your head.
They really try and make you look guilty,
even if you're not guilty.
No matter who was interviewing Joran,
he would tell a story, and it would feel
as though he was getting to the point
where he was going to perhaps confess.
And then he would always pull back,
and the story would go off on a tangent.
And there would be details that would come in
that were not there before.
And all of a sudden, he's pointing the finger
at the Kalpoe brothers...
That they knew that he had gone home
and he had left Natalee at the beach.
And perhaps one of them went back to the beach...
and he killed Natalee.
Just dancing circles around the investigators.
He seemed to be enjoying himself.
He knew there was no body to find.
His father had told him, no body, no crime.
How you doing, Joran?
And he never once admitted to this crime.
And so people on the island would say, well, you know,
he was interrogated.
He didn't admit it, maybe he didn't do it.
Or maybe he's a sociopath.
Joran van der Sloot, jailed since June 7th...
Now a free man.
He returned home to cheers from friends and family.
If they suspect that you're a part of a crime,
it's up to the prosecutor to gather additional information.
If they don't, then they're set free.
And no new evidence was presented.
So, on September 3, 2005, they let him go.
Joran was the last person seen with my daughter.
He knows what happened.
And now he's free and clear.
Joran looked at a very bright future, just graduated,
accepted at a lot of universities
and was ready to go to Tampa to study.
His life has been turned upside down completely.
I hope that everyone gives Joran a chance
to continue his life.
For lying, I probably deserved to be
in that jail for three months.
But I did not do anything against the law, and...
they have to let you go.
They have to let me get on with my life.
I want to thank everyone for coming.
The day that Joran was released from prison
was a real turning point,
you know, for Beth, for Dave,
for anybody who was hoping
for any kind of justice for Natalee.
What it was basically telegraphing to everybody
was...
he got away with this.
For the rest of my life,
I will continue to be the voice for my daughter,
seeking justice in Aruba.
Every parent would want the same justice
for their child.
Thank you.
We didn't think there was a chance in hell
that Joran would get out-- absolutely not.
Joran is a time bomb waiting to go off.
And it truly concerns me that another young female
would fall victim to this.
So I think the safest place for Joran to be
and for his potential victims to be
would be for him to be behind bars.
He does not need to have another young female
fall victim to his actions.
The Flores family
is becoming more and more desperate.
They've got the news of who this kid is.
The more and more time slips away,
something terrible has happened.
They know it in their hearts.
One of the suspects
in Natalee Holloway's disappearance
left Aruba Monday.
Joran van der Sloot left to attend college
in the Netherlands.
Joran was supposed to go to the United States.
He had a scholarship to a college in Florida,
and he was going to play tennis.
He was a fabulous tennis player in Aruba.
And so, all of a sudden,
his whole life also is upended.
His parents send him back to the Netherlands,
where he enrolls in school there.
And the media--intense media is still following him.
In a sort of weird way,
he liked the attention he was getting.
Did you kill Natalee Holloway?
No.
Everybody was talking about this case.
It went international,
and I think that he would say anything just to keep
the limelight on himself.
Joran van der Sloot
quickly figured out how to manipulate the media.
I think out of the gate, he realized
he could use this to his advantage.
It was almost a cat-and-mouse game with him and the media,
but as we know, that game became
very, very dangerous later on.
Now for more on what could be a major development
in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
This Dutch reporter claims
that he has solved the Natalee Holloway case,
that he has a confession on tape.
We did a hidden-camera operation.
Peter de Vries was a Dutch journalist,
and, obviously, he was hot on this story.
And he is going to make it his mission
to get Joran to confess.
Peter de Vries connects with a gentleman
named Patrick van der Eem.
And Patrick has befriended Joran,
and he's convinced that he can get Joran
to confess.
So they end up concocting a situation
in which Joran is in a car
that they rigged with cameras and audio.
And, yeah...
In this particular version of events,
he was with Natalee at the beach,
and she began convulsing.
And she fell unconscious.
He believed that she was dead,
and he called a friend, who came with a boat.
We all gathered at a friend's house,
had this big screen that we were going to watch it on.
It was wild to watch.
In that interview, he said Natalee is dead.
So that was the first time
that I had really, like, heard that out loud.
I need to start to come to terms with that.
I wanted to come through the TV and kill him.
I wanted to peel his skin off his face.
- I mean, it was like,
how could somebody be so cruel and inhumane?
I was shell-shocked.
It was a good thing there was an ocean
between us and Holland,
because I would have come after him.
He shows absolutely no remorse.
He shows such a lack of concern.
At this point, we're seeing how dark of a young man
Joran van der Sloot was becoming.
And in my mind, case closed.
That was that. We got the information.
The authorities looked into it.
Joran van der Sloot was questioned
by Aruban and Dutch police on Friday.
It happened less than a week after a Dutch TV program aired
a hidden-camera interview with van der Sloot,
saying he was with the missing Alabama teen when she died.
During his questioning, van der Sloot insisted
he was under the influence of marijuana
during the interview
and denied any role in Holloway's disappearance.
Even if a person confesses to a crime,
you need extra evidence in order to charge.
He was very cocky during the interrogations.
But I do think that he knew
that they wouldn't be able to frame anything on him.
Why? Because somebody helped him...
somebody very close to him...
very, very close to him.
Nobody else would take that risk.
Tonight, the incredible new twist
in the Natalee Holloway investigation.
Joran van der Sloot goes on the record with a shocking talk
of what he says happened to Natalee Holloway
the night she disappeared from Aruba.
In 2008, I had a meeting with Greta Van Susteren, my boss.
And she said she had received an email from Joran.
And I was to fly to Thailand
and meet with him.
At this point, his life was in turmoil.
He was a gambling addict,
and he was desperate for money.
He had a friend in Thailand, and he ended up in Thailand.
My assignment was to track him down
and secure an interview.
But the conditions of that were
we were going to pay him $25,000
to tell us what happened to Natalee Holloway.
I knew he wanted the money, but here was the problem.
Going to Thailand and giving somebody $25,000
is incredibly problematic.
There's a rule that you can only legally take $5,000
with you into the country.
The rest of the money had to come in
in $5,000 wire transfers.
There's a time difference,
and we can only do $5,000 in a 24-hour time period.
He was desperate, and he wanted that money,
and he was growing increasingly impatient.
So, in that time period, I had to entertain him.
Being with Joran van der Sloot, he's incredibly charming.
I had to constantly remind myself
why I was there and who he was.
He was cordial. He was funny.
But I realized how incredibly dangerous of a situation
I was in.
He could have snapped on me.
I saw that in the hotel room. He was incredibly agitated.
At one point, he asked me to go get the money
out of my own personal account
because he couldn't wait any longer.
So Greta arrives, and we had no time to waste.
He's agitated and wants to get this interview over
because he knows the faster the interview is over,
the faster he's going to get the payment.
You met a guy in February of three years ago
who said he was interested in something.
What was he interested in?
As the story unfolds, he tells a tale...
He was interested in me bringing him a blonde girl.
He had been in contact with a guy from Venezuela,
met him at a casino,
and the guy said that, you know, he would pay money
for American girls, particularly blonde girls.
And then he said to meet him at the beach by the Marriott
if I ever got a girl and that he would give me $10,000.
The day I met Natalee, I remembered what he said.
In the moment, as the story is unfolding,
it's feasible.
We all know human trafficking is a huge problem.
So I'm putting the pieces together in my head
that this is a possibility.
But what happens next astounded all of us.
After the interview, we're on our way to the airport,
and Greta receives a text
that says, "Everything I told you was a lie.
I just did it for the money."
Greta looks at me and says, "What do you think?"
And I said, "I think he's telling the truth here
for the first time."
We still do not know which version, if any, is the truth.
- We made the decision
to air the Joran van der Sloot interview,
disclosing that we had paid him the money.
And I think in our minds,
that was our way of getting back at him
and showing the world how dark he had become
and how he now had perfected
using the disappearance of Natalee Holloway
to make himself money to finance
his desperate gambling addiction.
A potentially key witness in the disappearance
of American teen Natalee Holloway has died.
Paul van der Sloot collapsed playing tennis.
Joran gets a phone call from his mother,
alerting him that his father had a heart attack
and he died.
There was a lot of speculation
the intense pressure and scrutiny
under which his son had put him
is what really led to him having this heart attack.
Joran literally throws himself on the casket
and says, this is all my fault.
I did this to you.
Makes a big scene.
Whether it was an act or whether it was sincere,
only Joran can answer that question,
but he was visibly...
broken by the death of his father.
I don't know if a person like Joran van der Sloot
has any kind of remorse.
But what we do know was that his dad
was his rock for a long time,
to the point that lots of people believe
that his dad helped him
cover up the body of a young woman
so that it was never seen again.
Whether his father helped him out that night or not,
he had to have known that his father
was always going to support him.
And then that one person
was suddenly gone.
So he comes back to Aruba,
and he moves back in with his mother.
And it's my belief that losing his father
really marked another turning point
for Joran.
If you don't think that this story could get any darker,
stand by, because it does.
When he flies back to Aruba,
you would expect someone to be mourning the loss of a parent,
assisting his mom.
Instead, Joran van der Sloot is doing
the most horrific, heinous thing
that you could possibly imagine.
He allegedly contacted Natalee's mother in Alabama
and offered to tell her what happened to her daughter,
including where her remains are,
in exchange for a quarter of a million dollars.
He contacted me.
Hi, John, this is Joran.
Quickly got to the point
about, you know, he wants to clear his soul,
clear his conscience
and really tell what happened to Natalee
and stop the Holloway grief and things like that.
But in exchange, he would like $250,000.
The lack of emotions that he has
when he is reaching out
to Beth Holloway to get money from her,
knowing that this woman lost her child...
he doesn't care.
There's no registration of empathy.
And that's characteristic psychopath right there.
So I said, let me talk to Beth.
I said, I've got an idea, Beth.
I think I can do something.
If he takes money, that's extortion.
If we can set it up where a wire's part of it,
that's wire fraud.
We could, you know, get him on both those counts,
U.S. charges, and, you know, lock this guy up.
I called the FBI right away. I said, let's do this.
Can we do this?
Joran was like, let's meet in Aruba.
You can bring the first $25,000 with you,
and I'll give you all the information.
Went down there, met with him.
You could tell all he wanted to do
was get right to the point.
Like, did you bring the money?
I said, yes, I did, Joran.
I could only bring $10,000 in cash, so we're going to--
I'm going to give you $10,000
and have $15,000 wired by Beth.
We got the car the FBI had provided me.
It was all rigged up with video cameras
and audio cameras.
He pointed to one house, said, this is the house.
That's where you're saying Natalee's remains are?
He said yes.
Definitely.
My father brought me here one day
and showed me this location.
He told me that he had gone home
and told his father what happened,
and he had driven back with his father
and pointed out where Natalee was.
Paulus had told Joran to wait in the car,
and Joran understood that his dad had gone down,
pulled Natalee further into the brush,
and covered her with a couple pieces of large cardboard
and left her there.
And then he said, I don't know if my dad came back
the next night or two nights later,
got her body, and disposed of it then.
I thought it was all bullshit right from the start,
'cause his dad was dead.
Joran loves giving information that can't be verified,
you know, so this was just one more, you know, spoke
in the wheel of lies of his.
The FBI had told me they knew it was a hoax
because they had satellite photos
of the area where the house was,
showing that it was still undeveloped land
at that point in 2005.
That was that, and...
I went back to the hotel.
FBI guys were all ecstatic, and they said, great job.
We've got it all on videotape. We've got it all on audiotape.
And...
nothing happened.
I don't know why they didn't pick him up.
It was like, guys, you got the whole thing videotaped
and audiotaped-- what are you doing?
And I start getting emails from Joran.
You seem like a really nice man, Mr. Kelly,
but I'm sorry I did this to you.
I lied about the whole thing.
You know, thank you for the money.
It's all about money.
Now he is spending all of his time at the casino.
You know, he's really heavily into gambling.
His mood is very dark.
Anita is very concerned,
and she's convinced
that it is because he's just lost his father,
perhaps there's some guilt.
And she convinces him
that he really needs help,
more than she can provide for him.
And somehow she gets him to agree
to sign himself in to a facility
back in the Netherlands,
where he's going to get some help.
Anita was completely convinced her son was going.
He was packed. His bags were ready.
And when she came to his room...
she found an empty bedroom...
and his luggage was gone.
But there was a note that Joran left for his mother,
explaining that he had gone to Peru
and that he was going to be participating
in a poker tournament there.
So, essentially,
the money that Joran has extorted from Beth Holloway
ends up funding Stephany Flores's murder.
To batter somebody that brutally,
you very likely would be in a state of true rage,
or you would be somebody who had a sadistic streak...
where you found it fun to cause people
enormous amounts of suffering or pain.
The police go through the surveillance tapes.
What happens is, Stephany pulls up in her car.
She's parked at such an angle,
you know, right by the front door of the hotel.
It's not a space you would park in
if you were going to stay for a while.
She walks in, she looks kind of angry.
This was not a happy visit.
This was not a tryst in a hotel room.
It looked like they were going there to pick up something.
The next thing you see is Joran pop out of the room
some time later.
He goes to a local coffee shop.
He picks up two cups of coffee like he's bringing some coffee
back to the room for his date.
He's aware of the cameras, too.
You know, he looks straight up at it.
He was trying to establish an alibi--
you know, why would I bring two cups of coffee
if she was dead?
And he goes back in the room, thinks about what to do
and, ultimately, just packs up his stuff, gets in her car,
and just disappears.
And he drives not far from the hotel,
and he abandons the car.
And it was a high crime area.
He dropped the car off in a place
that would maybe throw the police off the scent.
And that bought him some time.
There's no panic. There's no fear.
There's premeditation. There's methodical planning.
He was very calm, cool, collected,
made a plan.
That takes a lot of meticulousness,
and you only get that with experience.
He's such an easy liar, and he seems to lie for fun.
And after years,
it became like a game to him.
He really seemed to...
get off on having everybody hang on his every word
and then be disappointed when they find out it's just a lie.
There's a thrill to the lie,
and there's a thrill in knowing
that you can make anyone believe anything is true.
This is entertainment for him.
The victims are inconsequential.
The larger impacts to their family,
society, it doesn't matter.
Well, it's a name we'd hoped
we'd never have to hear again-- Joran van der Sloot.
Right now police think Joran van der Sloot
may be in Chile, where they're looking for him
as their chief suspect in the murder of a young woman,
a murder they think happened five years to the day
after Joran van der Sloot was the last person
to be seen with Natalee Holloway.
He's in another cab...
passing through a toll booth.
You know, curled up on the floor of the back seat.
The sharp-eyed person at a toll booth looks down--
this is suspicious-- and calls it in.
And right there, it's over.
We knew this case was the Twilight Zone
for so many reasons.
It's staggering.
Like, another girl on the anniversary?
Like, on the exact same day?
At Stephany's funeral and burial Thursday,
her father got down on one knee for a farewell kiss
to his beloved daughter.
I sort of felt like I had blood on my hands.
I started the wheels in motion,
where he took the 25 grand,
wanted to play in a poker tournament
over in South America,
and that's where he met Stephany Flores.
You know, I connected a lot of dots,
but, it was a heavy burden.
- Joran! Joran! Joran! - Joran!
And it ended horribly wrong, you know, on all fronts.
His first statement to the Chilean police is,
he's been set up by corrupt Peruvian police officers.
There were just a couple of rogue cops
that were harassing him, following him,
shaking him down for money.
You know, these are the guys you should be looking at.
It's always somebody else.
It's one of his friends. It's his father.
It's the cops.
It's Joran playing the victim.
He just seemed to have, like, two middle fingers
up to the world.
Maybe once you reach that point
and you know that you did something so horrible
and it finally caught up with you...
maybe you just don't care anymore.
He wasn't talking his way out of this case.
It was clear as day that he had murdered Stephany Flores.
He was out in the open now.
We saw his true colors. We saw who he was.
He was probably adrift
and wanted to tell the world,
you think that I'm this terrible murderer?
OK, that's what I will be. I will do this again.
She had caught wind of who he was,
and things escalated.
I'm imagining she probably just wanted to get
out of the room at that point.
And, you know, the rest is, you know, just kind of a blur.
And he just went savage on her.
- He's convicted and sentenced to 28 years in prison.
They don't convict people to life sentences
like we would here.
There's always room for rehabilitation, release,
even for a murderer like this.
His new address-- a maximum-security prison,
home to Peru's most notorious killers,
rapists, and terrorists.
Initially, we thought Peruvian prison
has to be horrifying.
I mean, that was what we told ourselves--
like, there's no way he'll survive.
Look, he's like a chameleon.
You know, he's able to adjust.
It's a lot different than the American prison system.
It's a little more porous.
People can come in during the day--
wives, girlfriends, vendors.
And so that allows him access to the outside world.
It's not like he looks like he's flourishing in Peru,
by any means.
But learning that he has had the opportunity
to be married
is mind-blowing to me.
Somehow he's been allowed to bring a child into this world.
That always happens, doesn't it?
They see this attractive guy on TV,
and they get wrapped up in the danger
or the, like, romance of,
is he an innocent victim, or who is he really?
Or maybe it's, I can fix him.
It is disgusting that he's been able to have a wife.
He can have pen pals. He can father a child.
Those were all things that Natalee Holloway
was never able to do.
It's a shame.
People who are psychopathic
will often have multiple romantic partners at once.
You do often see what's called
sort of impersonal sexual behavior.
So, engaging in sexual relations
that don't seem to be associated
with any kind of a deep attachment.
You see conning and manipulation,
because, again, you see other people as instruments
to get what you want.
He knows what his targets want to hear,
and that's all they are-- they're targets.
And, ultimately, they're transactions.
He's getting something out of them.
Even when he's in prison,
he's not turning his life around
and telling the truth
and wanting to be a good new person.
No, he's starting a cocaine-trafficking ring
inside of the prison.
Why does he want to be so dark?
I just don't understand why...
for this human being
with so much promise and intelligence
and, like, a future
and a path and a good family--
why does he always choose the dark side?
A- Nada.
Almost two decades
after Natalee Holloway's haunting disappearance,
the prime suspect in the case, Joran van der Sloot,
touching down tonight in Birmingham, Alabama.
Joran van der Sloot always wanted to come
to the United States.
Well, here he is.
Van der Sloot was never charged
in Holloway's disappearance,
but he is accused of offering to tell Natalee's family
how she died and where she was buried
in exchange for a quarter million dollars.
The only negotiating tool that Joran van der Sloot has
is the truth about what happened to Natalee Holloway.
Once he gives that information up, he's worthless.
He's meaningless.
He has nothing left.
Today Natalee's mother issuing a statement,
saying she's hopeful that some small semblance of justice
will finally be realized.
The extradition of John van der Sloot
back to the United States
is something that Beth's been working on
since Natalee disappeared.
It's her second-best shot.
Her first-best shot would be the recovery
of her daughter's body.
Her next-best chance are these extortion charges.
Long time coming.
All this time, every corner, twist, turn,
it's like, here we are.
18 years later, my mom is standing in the courthouse
within feet of the guy that killed my sister.
We were all on the edge of our seats.
I just wanted him to say that, yes...
I killed Natalee.
- How does it feel? - It feels good.
It's a nice day.
It's a good day for judgment.
Hoping to get answers today?
Joran van der Sloot has never been charged
in the death of Natalee Holloway.
However, the Holloway family attorney says
that he is expected today, Savannah,
to accept a plea deal related to wire fraud
and extortion charges, assuming he tells federal authorities
how Natalee Holloway died
and the manner in which her body was disposed of.
I feel like the whole world was in that courtroom with us.
I mean, I could just feel it.
It's like, here we are.
This is the big moment
where we're finally getting
some semblance of justice for Natalee.
I just wanted him to say that, yes, I killed Natalee,
and that's what we got.
When Beth stood up and read her statement
and read parts of what he had done...
it felt like the wind had been knocked out of me.
It was intense,
and you could just, like, feel that energy.
And I would say the most difficult part
was how violent the description of her death was.
- Deepak drops me off at a place
known as the fishermen's huts.
I'm actually with Natalee walking along the beach.
We lay down together in the sand,
and we start kissing each other.
And I start feeling her up again,
and she tells me no.
I insist. I keep feeling her up either way.
And she knees me in the crotch.
And I kick her extremely hard in the face.
She's laying down unconscious,
possibly even dead, but definitely unconscious.
And right next to her,
there's a huge cinder block
laying on the beach.
I take this, and...
I smash her head in with it completely.
Yeah, her face basically, you know, collapses in.
I'm scared. I don't know what to do.
So I grab her,
and I push her off...
into the sea.
Today I can tell you with certainty
that after 18 years,
Natalee's case is solved.
As far as I'm concerned, it's over.
It's over.
Joran van der Sloot is no longer the suspect
in my daughter's murder.
He is the killer.
That was all verified
by a comprehensive and conclusive polygraph test.
We finally--
today we got justice for Natalee.
Thank you. Thank you. - Thank you, everybody.
- Beth Holloway was satisfied. - Mm-hmm.
For so many years,
she's gotten all these different stories.
But listening to her, you got the sense
that she believed what he said
about the fate of her daughter.
Hearing him in my hometown
saying he was Natalee's killer,
I'm really trying to lean into...
the acceptance of, that's our level of closure.
But a sociopath will gain pleasure
from someone else's pain,
so it doesn't surprise me
that his story was incredibly gruesome
and specific.
One thing that psychopaths can do is,
they can add details and embellishments
to trigger an emotion from people.
I think the cinder-block idea isn't true necessarily
because that would be evidence you could find.
You'd find a missing cinder block
if he tried to get rid of it somewhere.
I think there will always be lingering questions
and people will have their doubts
about Joran's confession.
Anything released along those beaches
would end up being pulled back into shore no matter what.
That's the way the current runs.
It'd just have slowly drifted right back onto the sand
and gone nowhere.
That's not what happened.
That's not how she was disposed of.
I'm convinced of that.
It just feels like common sense
that there had to have been some type of extra...
outside help
to ultimately make sure that this--
Natalee goes away and is never found.
And that's where I believe his dad played the part.
The judge sentenced van der Sloot
to 20 years behind bars to run concurrently
with the sentence that he is already serving right now
in Peru.
When he finishes his murder sentence for Stephany Flores,
he'll just be a free man, unless he gets out early.
Then he would have to come to the United States
and serve jail .
The concurrent sentence that Joran was given,
he'd be getting out at 57 years old.
He's going to have a full life ahead of him still.
He might even have grandchildren.
But Beth went along. She wanted the answers.
"A" camera mark.
The way the murder was described,
Natalee never knew what happened,
you know, never knew what hit her.
It was immediate and painless for her the way it sounded,
so maybe there was a comfort in that.
You said something to me that it really struck me.
You said that this is better than closure.
It is.
Why is this better than closure?
You know, for me, closure is not what I got.
I got, it's over, it's solved.
Joran van der Sloot is the murderer.
The not knowing is more torturous than the knowing.
The not knowing is the never-ending nightmare,
and that's worse. - But now you do know.
And the knowing is horrific
in terms of the details of what he did.
It is. It is.
It is, and it's shocking to us to think that somebody
is capable of doing that.
Do you think 20 years is enough time?
I don't think any victim's family
is going to think ever an amount of time is enough.
So here's what I have to take comfort in--is what I needed,
and I needed the answers as to what happened to Natalee.
So I feel like now I can kind of, like...
Oh.
Now I can focus on that.
Yeah.
Are you properly buckled, honey?
Oh, you're not!
Got that one.
When you look at the collateral damage
on the Holloway family,
his family, the island of Aruba,
the Flores family,
it's unbelievable that one individual
can create such chaos and havoc.
All I can think about
is where Natalee would have fit in.
We've all been bridesmaids in everybody's wedding.
We all take our kids to the same parks
that we grew up going to,
and she was senselessly never given that opportunity.
It would have been her with us.
And, also, I wonder what kind of doctor
she would have been
so I could call and be like, my kid's ear hurts.
You know, what do I do?
I mean, she was a dependable, amazing human.
I really wish now that I'm older,
I could go back and get to know who she was
those last few months,
because, man, you know, I'll never get that back.
And I don't want people to ever forget this.
I hope he's miserable. It's what he deserves.
I definitely want to talk to him.
And I definitely want to whoop his ass.
Which one's going to come first, I don't know.
I know there's more to the story,
and there always will be.
And we got to keep digging.
Otherwise, it's all in vain.
I owe it to my family
and to Natalee.
I'm not going to stop.