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Stop. Stop! Stop, stop.

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Seriously, stop.

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Sit down.

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No, none of you. Stand up.

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Uh, I am very bad at endings.

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OK?

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Remember that.

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I can explain myself there.

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That will make a lot more sense
once I explain to you

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what this entire show
is based on.

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So the entire show--do not
worry, it's a very simple show.

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It's a very simple show
based on one very simple,

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humble note.
Yeah?

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One note from the Notes
application off my iPhone.

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We're all familiar
with the concept, yeah?

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If you don't know what
the Notes application is,

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it's a place where people
of my general age,

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and background,

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and level of mental health go

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to express our deepest,

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darkest, most intimate thoughts.

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Yes?

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Onto what we all know is the
most secure app of all time.

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Is it not?

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The one that's been uploaded
to every fucking Mac device

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you've ever touched
or thought of

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in the past five years, right?

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So I love the Notes app.

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I want to say it.
I'm a big fan.

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I love the Notes app,
because it's such a fucking

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versatile app, right?
It's a versatile app.

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It can do everything.

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I find it bizarre that it
often platforms, I guess,

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the entire breadth
of the human experience.

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I read so much in the format
of a Notes app, yeah?

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I find it bizarre that I can
read my own shopping list,

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yeah, in the same general style
and font as I quite often read

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a celebrity apologizing
for making a racial slur, right?

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Get you an app
that can do both, right?

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And I love the Notes app,
because I have come

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to rely on it
purely because the fact--

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and I'll get it out of the way
up top, controversial--

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I hate writing in notebooks.

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OK?

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I hate seeing people

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writing in notebooks.

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I hate seeing people
writing in notebooks in public.

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It's fucking pathetic, yeah?

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I'm saying it.

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The worst comes out of me
when I see someone writing

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in a notebook in public.

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Honestly, it's a little voice
being like, such a clever girl.

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Aren't you so--

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So special...

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...in your notebook.

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Oh, so--

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Visited by the muse at this

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fucking Five Guys

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in the Westfield Food Court.

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So I put pen to paper there, doll.

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I once saw a woman journaling
on a public beach once.

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Go fuck yourself.
Go fuck yourself.

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How dare you?

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I went up to her,
and I was like, I'm so sorry.

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I didn't realize we had
a writer in our midst.

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Yes!

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Mr. Ernest Hemingway
has graced us

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with his presence.

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Now, if you'll excuse me,
some of us must return

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to taking photos of ourselves

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to send to men
who do not care for our company.

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Good day.

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Some real work to be done, huh?

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I don't know if that's crazy.

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I just hate
writing in notebooks.

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I hate seeing people write.

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I just hate everything about it.

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For me, writing in a notebook,

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it used to fucking
mean something.

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That's what
I'm talking about, right?

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Used to mean
you're a detective.

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Or one other example,
I don't know,

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the Zodiac Killer.

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It's either or, right?

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It just--
I find it bizarre that anyone

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can buy a fucking Moleskine
diary, right?

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You should have to have
a fucking license

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to buy a Moleskine.

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I think there should be
a direct correlation

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between the quality
of your ideas

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and the GSM weight
of your paper.

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And I'll die
on that hill, baby.

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OK?

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I will say that I will admit
to this one thing

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I use a notebook for still,

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and that is that I...

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track my period in a notebook.

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I've taken--yeah,
I've taken that shit off grid.

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I suggest you do the same
as well

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if you experience a period
yourselves.

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Because, personally, I don't
love the idea of those apps

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and the fact that the fat cats
up at Silicon Valley

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know exactly
when I want to kill myself.

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Keep that information
close to your chest, right?

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It's valuable information.

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It's very hard to explain

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to people who do not experience
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how obsessed one can become,
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with tracking your period.

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I don't just track the period.

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I track everything around it
as well.

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I track all the fucking
foods I'm craving,

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all the thoughts I'm feeling.

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And it's so difficult
to express that to someone

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who doesn't have a period.

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And I have to say to them,
my brother,

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if there was something
that happened

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in your balls

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every month

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that made you
want to move to Berlin...

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And start a new life, yeah,

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you'd be listening to a podcast
or two as well.

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So back the fuck off!

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Back off!

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Um...

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I find it bizarre that I wasn't
taught to track my period,

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though, at a younger age.
I find that crazy.

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I didn't start doing that until
I was deep into my 20s, right?

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I--for some reason--
I don't know if it's the same

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in this country,
but in New Zealand,

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for some reason--
the responsibility

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of teaching one about one's
menstrual cycle growing up

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for some reason fell upon
the fucking shoulders

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of the PE teacher.

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I don't know if anyone
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So that meant--

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I had an adult man

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called Nick Wilson, yeah--

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bleach blonde hair,
backwards cap,

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fucking Oakley sunglasses
on top.

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You know that look that makes
a cat look like it's got eyes,

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you know?

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He was holding up a little
teacup as a prop, being like,

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you'll bleed a teacups
worth of blood every month.

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And I'd be 11,
being like, into that cup?

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What are you talking about?

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It's insane.

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The PE teacher,
the most emotionally inept

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of the entire fucking faculty.

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It's not even a real
fucking job, man.

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But back to this note.
This note.

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Now, I will tell you
a bit about this note.

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This note I started

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at a rather tricky time
in my life.

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I'll be the first to admit it.
Yeah?

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That's usually when you do
start a note

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in the Notes app of one's phone.

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Uh, I had started living alone
for the first time in my life

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as an adult.

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I went through
a couple of breakups.

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Why not, huh?

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I lost the lid to my KeepCup.

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It was not a banner year
for old Rosie.

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Right?

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So I started this note,
and I started treating it

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almost as, like, this diary.

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I put everything into it.

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Everything I was feeling,
every crazy emotion I was having

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amongst all the other things
you'd put

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in the Notes app, right?

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Like recipes I saw online
or fucking joke ideas,

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everything went into
this one single note, yeah?

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And at certain point last year,

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I was like, fucking hell, man,
this is fucking good.

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There's some good shit
in this note, man.

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I can make it--maybe I can do
a show about this note, yeah?

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I might print out this note.

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Now, I would not recommend that

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to anybody in the room
right now, yeah?

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Because the thing you'll know
about the Notes app

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and notes in the Notes app
is that there is no ending

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to a note in a Notes app.

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But it turns out that
endings are important, yeah?

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Endings are what
give things meaning.

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It gives us a moment to reflect
upon the experience

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we've just had.

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Without endings,

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we have no moment
to sort of learn a lesson.

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We just make the same mistakes
over and over again

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on an endless fucking loop.

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But I did not know this.
I did not know this, right?

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So I, first of all,
first mistake,

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took the note over
to a Microsoft Word document,

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migrated it over.

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Fucking carnage, yeah?

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Formatting is all over the show.

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Fonts are missing.

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It's not its natural habitat
to see a note

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in a Microsoft Word document.

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It's like seeing a fucking
teacher in a supermarket.

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It's not right.

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What the fuck
are you doing here, man?

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So I printed it out.

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And I didn't check--

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I didn't check how
many words there were.

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I wrote that.

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That just says "good luck."

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Keep it in, you cowards!

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So I printed out the note

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and didn't check how many--

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Actually how many words,
or how many pages.

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And so, it started printing.

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And, um, it kept printing
and kept printing.

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Print, print, print, print,
print, print, print, print.

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This printer was literally
addicted to printing, OK?

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30 pages,

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size 10 font.

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Whoo!

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Now, I don't know
at what point a note

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goes from being a note

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to some sort of
unhinged manifesto of sorts.

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Uh, 16,000 words perhaps?

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16,000 wor--

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Valerie Solanas,

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the woman who shot Andy Warhol,

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her manifesto was 24,000 words.

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All right?

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And I don't want to toot
my own trumpet,

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but I could fucking hit that
shit by Christmas if I tried.

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And I'm gonna tell you
right now,

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it is not an easy read.

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I will only share one thing
verbatim from the note

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to just give you an indication

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as to my emotional state
at the time of starting it.

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Um, here it is.

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And, uh, this has not been
embellished for the show.

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This is truly how
the entire note starts.

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Just one sentence,
one simple sentence,

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and it says,

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"I may have a lot of problems,

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but at least I have a heart."

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No, thank you.
No, thank you.

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No, thank you.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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No! No!

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No, no, no, no.

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Not for me that,
as a personality, that.

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What sort of Myspace
liminal hell

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is this bitch
communicating from?

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Uh, and as I say,

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it's not only, you know,
all this emo shit,

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it's, like, just random,
normal things mixed up.

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Like joke ideas
splayed into--like here,

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it just says just the word
"cucumbersome."

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It's apparently a word
I've invented

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for when you're holding
too many cucumbers.

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So tonally,
it's all over the show.

260
00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,079
And what became so clear to me
reading this note, right,

261
00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,839
is that I am very bad
at endings, yeah?

262
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,399
I am very bad at things ending.

263
00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,959
I'm very bad
at relationships ending.

264
00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,959
I do not take that too well.

265
00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,519
Another example of this,
I'll give you this, um,

266
00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,679
it's quite hard
to actually do this,

267
00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:33,839
because I can see
a lot of your faces,

268
00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,039
and it's a truly vulnerable
thing to admit

269
00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,759
because it's entirely true.

270
00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,519
At a certain point in the most
recent breakup I went through,

271
00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,839
I genuinely found myself
googling the phrase,

272
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,279
"can you be broken up with

273
00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,679
for being too cool?"

274
00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:52,839
Now--

275
00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,719
the cocky energy
of that phrase alone

276
00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,799
could power a small village.

277
00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,759
Do you understand that?

278
00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,319
Incognito mode, of course,
if I fucking--

279
00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,359
of course, straight
to incognito mode as well.

280
00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,079
I'm not an idiot, right?

281
00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,519
Don't want that
purple linking me.

282
00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,679
I think incognito mode gets
a bad rap for being the thing

283
00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:11,159
you go into when you want to
search something a bit cheeky

284
00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,279
but naughty, right?
Not for me. Not for me.

285
00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,599
That's where I go
to search my most private

286
00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,279
anxiety spirals, right,

287
00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,839
to their natural end
with no paper trail.

288
00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,879
But you'll know this,
you get to make it fun

289
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,199
because you get to put on
little hat...

290
00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,039
and some glasses

291
00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,679
and pretend to be someone else
for a while,

292
00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:34,200
when really this is the
truest version of yourself.

293
00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,239
So it fully--

294
00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,159
and honestly,
it shocked me, I think.

295
00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,399
It shocked me
that I found myself

296
00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,839
googling something like this,
because, look,

297
00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,719
I am an adult woman.
I am an adult woman.

298
00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,599
I have been through heartbreak
before, OK?

299
00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,479
I've done it all.
I've done every iteration of it.

300
00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,639
I've been the dumper.

301
00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,239
I've been the dumpee. Yeah?

302
00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,079
I once got dumped
over the phone during COVID,

303
00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,399
which was pretty gnarly.

304
00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,839
I like to refer to that
as the reverse Soulja Boy.

305
00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,199
Which is a good litmus test

306
00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,879
to see how many people my age
are in the crowd.

307
00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,359
And I'm gonna be honest,

308
00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,279
that's a--that's--
that's a good amount.

309
00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,040
I once dumped a man
on a trampoline.

310
00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,639
Not my finest hour.

311
00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,639
In my defense, not bouncing.

312
00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,959
Sort of just sitting on it.

313
00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:27,439
Sort of just, you know,
sadly undulating, I guess.

314
00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,959
Don't know if that's worse.

315
00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,719
I, uh--I got broken up with

316
00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,039
for the reasoning
that the person said to me.

317
00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,199
He said,
I don't think I love you

318
00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,919
as much as you love me.

319
00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,679
I don't love you
as much as you love me.

320
00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:40,399
Brutal, awful, right?

321
00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,279
No. Which, then, an hour
later into the breakup

322
00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,719
was actually upgraded to,

323
00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,599
oh, I actually don't know
if I love you at all.

324
00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,759
To which I replied,
I would actually love to accept

325
00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,119
your first offer of--

326
00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,479
I've actually
talked to my team.

327
00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,559
We're actually really happy
with that

328
00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:57,079
if that's still on the table.

329
00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,359
It's like "Dragon's Den" where
you have to talk to the wall.

330
00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,999
And you're like,
I think we should take it.

331
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,160
I think we should take it.

332
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,199
It's a horrible thing to hear
it said to you, right?

333
00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,639
Like, it was a horrible thing
to say to someone's face.

334
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,159
Also, I think it was
a fundamental misunderstanding

335
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,719
between the situation
between this person and myself,

336
00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,439
this man and myself.
Because that is true.

337
00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,879
If I'm in a relationship
with you,

338
00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,919
I fucking love
the shit out of you, man!

339
00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,639
Yeah?
Yeah, I'll fucking go hard.

340
00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,199
I go hard in the paint
for love--

341
00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,319
if that makes sense.
Right?

342
00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,119
But what I don't think
this man understands,

343
00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,559
and a lot of men
I've been out with

344
00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,039
haven't fully quite grasped,

345
00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,839
is that I do love them,

346
00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,599
but it's actually
how little I respect them.

347
00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,479
And do you know what?

348
00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,920
And surely that's got to
balance the scales.

349
00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,799
Is that too harsh to say?

350
00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,199
Of course I respect some men.

351
00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,880
Jim Henson.

352
00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,359
The list goes on.

353
00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,559
The list is a work
in progress, OK?

354
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,919
I think what hurt about
hearing it, though, is that I--

355
00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,799
I mean, there's an obvious truth
to that statement, right?

356
00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,359
Because that is true.
I am a romantic person, right.

357
00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,799
I fucking go hard.

358
00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,079
I can't change the fact that
I'm a romantic person, yeah?

359
00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,119
I think it's a symptom
of the generation

360
00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,599
that I grew up in, right?

361
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,959
I think, as a generation,
we were taught

362
00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,639
that romantic love
was the ultimate form of love

363
00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,279
to pursue no matter what, right.

364
00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,719
And everything we listened to,
and watched, and read,

365
00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,959
everything taught us
that romantic love

366
00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,039
is to be put on a pedestal,
to doggedly pursue

367
00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,479
no matter what the cost.

368
00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,879
And I think it's fucked me up
as an adult person, right?

369
00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,079
'Cause It's turned me into
this person who looks back

370
00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,639
to past relationships,
relationships that didn't

371
00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,159
work out,
that were actively bad for me.

372
00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,479
But I still look back
with these sort of

373
00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,199
rose-tinted glasses, right?

374
00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,119
Almost like a little truffle,
but going back in time

375
00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,359
to hunt in my memory for
little moments of euphoric love

376
00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,439
to sort of chomp on
years and years later

377
00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,399
for a little hit of dopamine
in the present.

378
00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,079
And it's fucking pathetic, right?

379
00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,199
'Cause it feels like going
through an advent calendar

380
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,959
I've already eaten, yeah?

381
00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,799
Just to rip open little
cardboard perforated doors

382
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,639
to stare at a plastic mold

383
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,919
and desperately try to remember
what the chocolate tasted like!

384
00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,039
Not all of these will be jokes!

385
00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,359
OK?

386
00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,399
Some of them--

387
00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,039
No!

388
00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,519
Some of them will be very sad
poems that don't rhyme.

389
00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,999
All right?

390
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,440
That's the most one-woman show
I get, I promise.

391
00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,879
But you know what I mean?

392
00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,279
I think--I think
the generation below us now

393
00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,879
have a very different idea
when it comes to romance.

394
00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,359
I don't know
if it's any better.

395
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,799
It's this--
I've noticed this online

396
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,359
that I've never sounded older

397
00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,239
in my entire life.

398
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,639
What are the young'uns
are doing online?

399
00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,199
I've noticed this thing--

400
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,119
is this concept
of romanticizing

401
00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,799
your own life, right?

402
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,039
I don't know if some people
know about this.

403
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,479
If you don't,
basically the concept is that

404
00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,479
what you've got to do is you've
got to add the romance

405
00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,559
to every little mundane thing
in your life.

406
00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,079
Just go and make
it romantic, yeah?

407
00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,999
So just make everything
romantic and fun.

408
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,319
So it'll be like make up
and then make a cup of tea.

409
00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,879
Make a cup of tea,
but make it cute.

410
00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,879
Make it cute.

411
00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,559
Maybe you could do
the little doily.

412
00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,919
Well, you do it.

413
00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,519
Or you can maybe make it in
a little antique teapot

414
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,039
from fucking 1998.

415
00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,319
Leonardo.

416
00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,399
Or maybe you can wear a little
nightgown while you do it

417
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,799
so you're like a little fucking
Victorian ghost

418
00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,679
or some shit, right?

419
00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,079
Romanticize your own life.

420
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,119
It'd be something like
maybe you go to a café...

421
00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:16,239
And you write a note.

422
00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,799
And the note,
it'd be like, have a nice day.

423
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,279
And someone might find it,
and read it,

424
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,079
and feel good about themselves.

425
00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,359
Romanticize your own life.

426
00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:27,519
Now, this is a genuine question,

427
00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,679
and I ask it with love.

428
00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,159
Are the children well?

429
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,199
Do you know what I mean?

430
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,439
Because this is--
it's kind of insane.

431
00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,439
I love them.

432
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,559
I love the children.
I love the kids.

433
00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,719
But guys, you got to get your
fucking heads in the game,

434
00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,199
because you're gonna be fighting
for water reserves,

435
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,439
"Mad Max" style,

436
00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,359
in, I want to say,
two months time.

437
00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,039
So enough with the shit, right?

438
00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,159
It is--I think it's like a--
I kind of think

439
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,519
it's a generational
trauma response, right,

440
00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,679
to a crumbling world
around them,

441
00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,599
which I think has resulted
in a level of whimsy

442
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,679
I have not encountered
in years, OK?

443
00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,319
And I fucking know whimsy!

444
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,519
I grew up in the 2010s!

445
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,679
I fucking know whimsy!

446
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,719
I'm part of the
"Amélie" generation.

447
00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,919
<i>Je suis, Amélie.</i>

448
00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,799
Justice for Amélie.

449
00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,439
She's a good bitch.

450
00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,839
Amélie, to women of my age,
she's our Travis Bickle.

451
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,439
She really is.

452
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,359
Yeah, that joke gets absolutely
nothing every time I do it,

453
00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:30,599
and yet I continue doing it.

454
00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,720
And that's what courage is, OK?

455
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,879
I just think
it's just so sweet, though.

456
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,799
It's just so sweet,
because these children

457
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,439
almost act as if
they've invented

458
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,359
the very concept of whimsy, right.

459
00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:44,879
And I have to be like,
my child, my child,

460
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,559
let me ask you a question.

461
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,839
Have you--

462
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,399
have you ever worn

463
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,399
a top hat

464
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,759
at the height of summer

465
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,559
to a Panic! at the Disco concert

466
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,959
to impress a bisexual boy
who hates you?

467
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,239
All right.

468
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,599
I have done things that
would make you shudder!

469
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,319
I know whimsy!

470
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,160
Respect your elders.

471
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:13,279
I, uh,

472
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,839
if you don't know this concept,

473
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,399
the romanticize
your own life thing,

474
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,839
I think you may be familiar
with things

475
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,119
that kind of fall under the
umbrella of this sometimes.

476
00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:22,919
You may notice this
in the algorithms--

477
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,439
the idea of dating yourself.

478
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,479
I don't know if
anyone has encountered this.

479
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,399
It's a fucking rancid
concept, yeah?

480
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,399
'Cause I think
it's aggressively targeted

481
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,479
towards specifically
single people in the algorithm.

482
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,279
And the idea behind that
is that what you've got to do

483
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,799
is you can't wait sometimes.

484
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,079
You can't wait for someone to
take you out on a date, yeah?

485
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,319
What you just got to do,
you got to take yourself

486
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,319
out there, girl.

487
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,079
Pop on a little bit of lippy.

488
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,879
Pop on a little black dress.

489
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,199
Yeah?

490
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,519
And you're just gonna go out
and by yourself, yeah?

491
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,239
Go to a museum
on your tod, hmm?

492
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,920
Go for a meal alone,
if you can fathom it.

493
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,719
Now, I don't know what I missed

494
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,919
in the past 10 years or so,

495
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,439
but the last time I checked,

496
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,799
that concept was just

497
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,839
fucking living
your goddamned life!

498
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,319
What the fuck has happened to us
as a society,

499
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,079
where we have become
so disconnected

500
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,079
with the idea of solitude

501
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,319
that we can no longer do
anything by ourselves anymore

502
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,519
without reframing it
within the context

503
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,919
of being in a relationship

504
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,959
with oneself?

505
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,359
Sorry!

506
00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:33,599
Do you think--
sorry, do you think--

507
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,439
do you really think,
when you see...

508
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,360
an old Italian man...

509
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,399
Sitting down on a piazza,

510
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,079
having a little red wine,

511
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,639
a little cigarette,

512
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,479
do you genuinely think that man

513
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,839
is thinking to himself,

514
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,919
just took myself
on a little date, you know?

515
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:00,920
Self-care.

516
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,280
No!

517
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,439
I think the weirdest one,
though, by far, I will say,

518
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,519
that has gone through this
rebrand of doing something

519
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,359
to oneself, um, is masturbation.

520
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:15,959
Has to be.

521
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,519
The rebrand of being in
a relationship with oneself,

522
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,799
rather, is masturbation.

523
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,159
We call that having sex
with ourselves now.

524
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,839
No, thank you. Not for me.

525
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,399
Not for me, that phrase.

526
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,439
It's got a real single parents
alone together vibe

527
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,399
to that phrase
that I don't love.

528
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,679
You know?

529
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,879
Also, I hate myself,
let alone want to fuck her.

530
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,519
Do you what I mean?
Like...

531
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,639
it's bad branding for those with
low self-esteem, right.

532
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,759
And again, I think it speaks
to this idea

533
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,759
that we just can't
call something

534
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,079
for what it is anymore, man.

535
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,439
Just call--

536
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,919
it's call--
just call a wank, a wank, man.

537
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,279
It's a fucking wank.

538
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,719
It doesn't need to be
anything more, anything less.

539
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,239
It's just this--
let's stop making--

540
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,079
let's stop making
everything special, yeah?

541
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,520
Don't--don't light a candle.

542
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,519
Can we agree on that
in the room right now?

543
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,359
Don't light a candle
to have a wank, OK?

544
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,039
The only times
you should light a candle

545
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,999
in this life are if someone dies

546
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,279
or takes a shit.

547
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,799
And that is all.

548
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,439
OK?

549
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,879
So what was I saying?

550
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,479
Oh, yes, I'm a romantic person.

551
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,959
Clearly.

552
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,519
And so, in my early 20s, I, uh--
about 10 years ago,

553
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,719
my early 20s,
I did what any romantic person

554
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,399
would do, obviously.

555
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,839
And that is that I moved
to London,

556
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,560
the City of Love.

557
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,119
Sorry,
that's supposed to be a joke.

558
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,239
Have you been here?

559
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,639
What the fuck is that?
Um...

560
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,479
I moved to London
because of love.

561
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,879
Classic me.

562
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,399
And it was really hard to,
I think,

563
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,239
explain to my family
and friends that--

564
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,719
or I guess reassure them
that I was gonna be fine.

565
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,839
I was a young woman
moving to the other side

566
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,999
of the world, right?

567
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,639
And very early on
I found this quote, right,

568
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,039
this incredible quote,
that really sort of summed up

569
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,279
the experience of what it is
like to live

570
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,239
in a bustling city like London.

571
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,639
And it came from the Russian
socialist Alexander Herzen,

572
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,839
when he put it just perfectly
about London life,

573
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,559
when he said, "There is no town
in the world more adapted"

574
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,359
"training one away from people

575
00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:20,559
"and for training one
into solitude than London.

576
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,999
"The manner of life,
the distances, the climate,

577
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,719
"the very multitude of
population in which personality

578
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,839
"vanishes, all this
together with an absence

579
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,479
"of continental diversion,
conduces, to the same effect.

580
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,439
"One who knows how to live alone
has nothing to fear

581
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,359
"from the tedium of London.

582
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:36,919
"The life here,
like the air here,

583
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,959
is bad for the weak,
for the frail,

584
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,679
"for one who seeks a prop
outside himself,

585
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,039
for one who looks for
welcome, sympathy, attention."

586
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,359
But I love the buses.

587
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:48,799
That was me, not him.
Um...

588
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,239
Fuck the tube!
Fuck the tube!

589
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,959
I'm on the bus, where it's at.

590
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,359
For me, I think a London bus,
that's where the fucking stuff

591
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,759
of life happens, man.

592
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,999
Do you know what I mean?

593
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,319
Like the godda--four kids
crying their eyes out

594
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,799
on the bottom deck of a bus.

595
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,799
That's the stuff of life, yeah?

596
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,199
A man clipping his fingernails

597
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,999
for so long that at some point
you kind of have to assume

598
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,599
he has moved on to the toes.

599
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,959
Yeah?

600
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,959
SOL, baby.

601
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,279
I was on my favorite bus
the other day, the 73.

602
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,919
Shout out to 73.
Yeah!

603
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,359
A couple fans. Classy bus.

604
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,360
That's gonna go crazy in an
international market, I think.

605
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,239
73!

606
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,959
I love the 73.
It's my favorite bus,

607
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,999
but I think something
that happened on the 73

608
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,839
recently really
sort of summed up

609
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,759
the kind of experience of
how jaded one can become

610
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,279
living in a city like London.

611
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,999
And it was that this guy
came on the 73,

612
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,519
and he had
a really good sound system,

613
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,519
he had a really great speaker,
and he was playing

614
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,159
that song "Cheerleader."
You know?

615
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,639
♪ I think that I found-- ♪

616
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,959
Great song.

617
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,479
He was blasting that while
also yelling at all of us

618
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,799
that he wanted to kill us all.

619
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,959
It was a real juxtaposition
of vibes, I feel.

620
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,919
It's like, pick a lane, mate.
You know?

621
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,519
But that wasn't even
the funny bit.

622
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,919
What was so funny, and
what I found myself laughing at

623
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,079
at the back of the bus,

624
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,079
was that it became so clear
so immediately

625
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,439
that this man had clearly
not paid for Spotify Premium.

626
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,079
And so--

627
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,759
I don't know if anyone's ever
had their life threatened

628
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,199
to them before to the tune
of a fucking Hello Fresh ad,

629
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,959
but it is a weird experience, right.

630
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,879
But that's what I love
about London, man.

631
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,919
I love London.
It's a place for me.

632
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,159
It's an introvert's dream,
London.

633
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,039
And I'm an introvert.
That's why I love it.

634
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,439
I love being an introvert.

635
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,799
I'm proud of it.

636
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,239
I hate extroverts.

637
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,039
I find them both frightening
and boring at the same time.

638
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,239
I think, when you're younger,
a certain level of extroversion

639
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,839
is kind of forced upon you,

640
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,679
even if you're an introvert
when you're in your 20s.

641
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,519
I dated a lot more in my 20s.

642
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,079
I did that.
That was fine.

643
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,999
That was fine. It was great.

644
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,039
It was fine.

645
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,599
Dating in London
in your 20s is fine.

646
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,599
I will say this, though, and
that is that the only downside

647
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,559
to that is that quite often
dating in London,

648
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,959
what that does mean, is that

649
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,359
you will often date British men.
And--

650
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:11,959
No disrespect, no disrespect.

651
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,239
But for me, personally,

652
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,479
I'll say this,

653
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,319
the experience of dating
British men sometimes,

654
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:24,399
for me, felt like some form of
international diplomacy scheme

655
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,039
in which I had been sent
from the islands

656
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,359
to come over here
and teach men

657
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,959
who went to boarding school
how to cry.

658
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,359
Unpaid! Unpaid!

659
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,999
No.

660
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,559
Sort of like reverse colonialism
but make it fun,

661
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,719
you know what I mean?

662
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,399
A bit jaunty.

663
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,439
And it was just--
it was a shocking experience.

664
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,839
It was a culture shock to me.

665
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,399
Because I had never met
a proper posh person in my life.

666
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,399
I'm from New Zealand.

667
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,239
We don't fucking do posh people.

668
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,039
What--what the fuck is
going on

669
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,039
with that lot?

670
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,879
Seriously, genuinely.

671
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,959
Some of them have family crests.

672
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,879
I'm sorry.

673
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,759
What are you talking about?

674
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,159
My family does not have a crest

675
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,479
if that is any indication
as to my family's

676
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,759
level of wealth or background.

677
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,479
If my family had a crest,
right,

678
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,039
I think I imagine what it would
look like is that in one corner

679
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,279
it would just be like
a picture of a box

680
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,519
of off-brand corn flakes, yeah,

681
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,359
a marijuana leaf,

682
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,119
and whatever the Latin word is

683
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:30,079
for "undiagnosed"
just proudly under there.

684
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,199
A few of the clan in tonight,
I see.

685
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,760
That's good.

686
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,519
It's just crazy, 'cause, the
thing is, posh people, they--

687
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,519
this is the problem, isn't it?

688
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,399
They also--
they go under the radar.

689
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,119
They're very hard
to spot sometimes, right,

690
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,159
'cause they're hiding in
plain sight a lot of the time.

691
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,679
I have found the best time
to catch them is Christmas.

692
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,919
Always. Every time.

693
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,199
That's when they come out
of their shells.

694
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,999
That's when you get to see
into their living rooms,

695
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,279
into their family photographs, right.

696
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,199
Posh people are obsessed
with Christmas

697
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,839
because they get to go back
and see their parents.

698
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,039
'Cause they're, again, obsessed
with their parents.

699
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,519
Again, I don't understand that.

700
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,759
You're not supposed to fucking
keep hanging out with them.

701
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,159
That's not the point.

702
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,440
But they're all like, I
I love my mommy and daddy.

703
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,640
It's crazy, right?

704
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,119
And I know you're not
supposed to judge anyone

705
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,639
from what they come from.

706
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,079
You're supposed to judge them
on who they are.

707
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,199
But I will say, a lot of the
times I look at these family

708
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,839
Christmas photos,
a lot of my own friends,

709
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,479
and I love you guys,
but I will say,

710
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,959
a lot of the times
your girlfriends...

711
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,039
♪ Look like your sister ♪

712
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,839
♪ She looks so much
like your sister ♪

713
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,159
That's Shania Twain.

714
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,479
I don't know if you caught that.

715
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,279
No, no, it's fine.
That's the original song.

716
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,760
She did a cover of mine.

717
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,519
That's quite unnecessarily
actually harsh on posh people.

718
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,999
I do think that British
people, in general,

719
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,399
are obsessed with Christmas
in a way I find embarrassing,

720
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,759
I think.

721
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,799
Do you know what I mean?

722
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,639
If I meet another man
in his mid-30s

723
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,999
who is like,

724
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,440
I love "Elf," you know?

725
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,759
That's my favorite--I love
watching "Elf" with my mummy.

726
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,879
If I meet another man like that,
I will buy a gun.

727
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,399
I'll buy a gun.

728
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,719
I won't use it.

729
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,839
I just want to have it,
you know?

730
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,639
Uh, so yeah,
so I did date in my 20s.

731
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,799
And you know what?

732
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,439
I'd say, on the whole,
dating in one's 20s

733
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,759
is so much easier than
dating in your 30s, right?

734
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,359
Because for me, again,
I'll say this about myself,

735
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,999
in my early 20s, right,
dating was a lot easier

736
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,479
because I had not one
principle

737
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,359
or value to speak of
at that age.

738
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,439
And I've found it's a real asset
when it comes to dating

739
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,879
in a city like London.

740
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,639
Any level of self esteem,
real cock block.

741
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,479
Would not recommend.

742
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,119
'Cause the thing is,
I was, like, so--

743
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,799
I-I was so willing to change
myself to be whatever

744
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,399
this person wanted me to be.

745
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,799
The person I wanted to be with,
I would just change myself,

746
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,119
do whatever
they wanted me to be.

747
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,279
Like, I would just ask them.

748
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,399
I'd just straight up
asked them sometimes.

749
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,399
What do you want?
What do you want from me?

750
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,479
And I would do it.
I would do it.

751
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,559
I'm very malleable.
I'm like Play-Doh!

752
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,119
Just mold me into
what you want from me.

753
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,239
I know I'm very tall.
I can be so small.

754
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,319
I can be so tiny.
I could squeeze myself.

755
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,879
I'd be a tiny woman,
like a Thumbelina

756
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,039
or a little Anne Geddes baby,
sort of in a calendar,

757
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,039
in a tulip,
barely able to support

758
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,959
the weight of her own neck
or can't open her eyes.

759
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,959
A tiny, tiny woman!

760
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,119
Or I could be
something different!

761
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,559
I could do something
like I could be sassy.

762
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,799
I could be, like, a sassy
woman for you if you want that!

763
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,599
I could say stuff like,
well, you think that?

764
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,119
Well, how about this?

765
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,999
I will do anything!

766
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,999
Anything!
Just tell me what

767
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,519
you want me to do,
and I'll do it.

768
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,879
And apparently you should say
none of that on a first date,

769
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,799
especially at a bowling alley

770
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,679
from across the lanes.

771
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,079
And I respect that.

772
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,159
And I respect the staff
at Rowans for enforcing that.

773
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,479
So...

774
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,959
Uh...

775
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,559
It was just--it was just
so much easier, right?

776
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,119
It was so much easier to date
in your 20s, right?

777
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,519
Everything gets a little harder.

778
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,279
I think, like, I think
it's because, as you get older,

779
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,399
right, the way in which
you kind of conceive love

780
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,759
or think of love changes.

781
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,079
The ways you want to express
love very subtly change

782
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,079
once you hit 30.

783
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,119
It starts to be stuff like,

784
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,119
I want to fucking
make you a chutney!

785
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,119
You know what I mean?

786
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,559
Like, that's how
you want to show it!

787
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,199
Right, or the things you're
looking for change as well.

788
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,399
Now, I'm looking for someone
who gives me the feeling

789
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,519
that I get when I see
my fucking suitcase

790
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,079
come around the baggage claim
at an airport,

791
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,319
where I'm like,
that's my fucking suitcase!

792
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,919
And everyone's like, it looks
like every other suitcase.

793
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,799
And you're like, no,
but that's my suitcase!

794
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,920
I put my stuff in it!

795
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,119
That's what I want
to feel, right?

796
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,559
And it just gets so much
harder to find those people

797
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,279
in the ways that we meet people
these days.

798
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,519
Like, I was on apps for a very
brief spell in my early 30s.

799
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,159
That was not fun at all.

800
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,959
To be honest, it was mainly me
just explaining to 21-year-old

801
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,639
men in the conversations
what a Concorde plane was,

802
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,519
which was, to be fair,
quite a lot of fun,

803
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,239
and you should try it
yourselves.

804
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,639
You get to be like
a very, very long time ago,

805
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,639
in the year 2000,

806
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,239
there was a plane
that went very, very fast.

807
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,159
It was too noisy.

808
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,120
They're like,
oh, my God, tell me more.

809
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,279
And it just gets harder.

810
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,679
Everything is--
and I know--look,

811
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,759
I know I can hear myself
say that out loud.

812
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,159
And I'm like, oh, I'm so old.

813
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,599
I know I'm not old yet.

814
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,839
I'm 32. I'm not old yet, right.

815
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,519
I know I'm aging, though.

816
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,559
I know I'm aging
in many very subtle ways.

817
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,679
I've started saying
"safe travels" a lot.

818
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,919
Do you know what I mean?

819
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,879
I don't know what happened.

820
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,359
It just started--safe travels.

821
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,759
Good flight.
Safe travels. Yeah?

822
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,679
If you've ever seen a teenager

823
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,359
say "safe travels,"

824
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,559
that is an undercover cop,
and...

825
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,439
you're going to jail

826
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,479
for some reason.

827
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,679
But everything is harder.
I think, uh--

828
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,639
getting dumped in your 30s
is so much harder

829
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,119
than getting dumped in your 20s, right.

830
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,879
Because, as I said before,
when you're in your 20s,

831
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,439
you're still building
your personality.

832
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,919
You're still figuring out
who you are.

833
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,559
So you don't have to take it
as personally,

834
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,839
that rejection, right.

835
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,599
Just be like, it's fine.
It's all good.

836
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,319
Yeah, I'm gonna
be a different person

837
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,679
in like a year or two years.

838
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,679
All good, yeah?

839
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,679
You do you.

840
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,879
What if our life is long.

841
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,639
We'll be friends still.
Of course.

842
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,919
When you're dumped in your 30s,

843
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,799
you are being dumped

844
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,199
for who you truly are.

845
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,039
And I'm so sorry

846
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,559
if that is the first time
some of you are hearing this

847
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,759
in the room.

848
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,399
But that is a scientific fact.

849
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,759
Do we know this?
Yeah.

850
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,239
Our personalities
fucking lock in at 30!

851
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,199
Yeah?
This is me forever now.

852
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,079
I'm fucking gutted.
I am gutted!

853
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,839
I am gutted!
Do you know what if feels like?

854
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,519
It feels like--you know when
you're playing "Mario Kart,"

855
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,799
and you're trying to figure out
which character to play with,

856
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,359
and you're dilly-dallying
for way too long,

857
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,879
and the fucking timer runs out,
and you end up on the last box

858
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,199
that you just happened to be on.

859
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,479
So you have to be like,
I'm fucking Waluigi

860
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,759
for the rest of my life.
Is that it?

861
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,319
Great!

862
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,600
Ideal.

863
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,439
Now, I think
I should have changed

864
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,679
the character in that joke.

865
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,919
Because I've noticed it doesn't
get as much of a reaction,

866
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,159
because I feel, as a society,

867
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,119
the temperature is changing
on Waluigi.

868
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,479
I'll say that. Yeah!

869
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,639
He's just a bit misunderstood

870
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,519
in the shadow of his brother, right?

871
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,239
I think he's kind of hot.

872
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,199
I don't know.

873
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,879
Tall. he's got that mustache.
It's crazy.

874
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,720
Waluigi looks like
every man in East London.

875
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,479
Right?

876
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,879
You'll fucking see him on
a Lime Bike later on.

877
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,159
That's fucking Waluigi
on a Lime Bike.

878
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,800
That's crazy.

879
00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:34,199
So it's very hard to come
to terms with the fact that

880
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,079
this is you for the rest
of your life, right,

881
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,519
when you hit 30.

882
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,159
And, look, I don't want to sound
self-deprecating in a way.

883
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,759
Like, oh,
this is me forever now.

884
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,359
I really wish--I really wish
that self-deprecation

885
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,399
hadn't become so much a big part
of my USP

886
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,239
or my brand, right, as a person.

887
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:50,439
But it has.

888
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,679
And really, I honestly
thought self-deprecation

889
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,119
was something I would
eventually mature out of.

890
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,839
I'd grow out of it.
But that is not the case.

891
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,279
I have found this,
that is not the case.

892
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,079
What actually happens, right,
with self-deprecation

893
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,639
is that the older you get,

894
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,039
the more accurate
the self-deprecation becomes.

895
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,999
Right, because you know
yourself better.

896
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,359
Your friends know you better.

897
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,839
So in my teen years,
I could be like--

898
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,559
I could get away with
being like, oh, I'm such-

899
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,799
I'm never gonna find
a boyfriend.

900
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,799
I'm such a spinster.

901
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,999
We loved calling
ourself spinsters

902
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,199
when we were teenagers.
I'm such a spinster.

903
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,599
I'm never gonna find someone.

904
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,679
And your friends are like,
what are you talking about?

905
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,879
They've got your back.

906
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,839
They're like, what are
you talking about, girl?

907
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,919
You're crazy.

908
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,399
You can't do yourself
down like that.

909
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Of course,
you'll find love someday.

910
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,759
Shut the fuck up.

911
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,639
Stop talking about yourself.

912
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,439
Now, at 32,

913
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,919
if I say something like,

914
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,159
I don't know
if I'll ever get married.

915
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,159
My friends are like, well,
marriage isn't for everyone.

916
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,440
And I'm like--

917
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,359
I see. No.

918
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,960
I see.

919
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,919
The game is on.

920
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,679
The game is afoot.

921
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,199
I know I said just before
that I know

922
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,479
that I'm aging
in many very subtle ways.

923
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,199
And another way
in which I know I'm aging

924
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,879
is that I have done that joke
quite a few times now,

925
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,759
to the point where
I have had to start

926
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,079
wearing fucking knee pads.

927
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,559
So yeah, thanks!

928
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,639
Yeah. Yeah, no.

929
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,239
I'm unsure as to what
you're clapping there.

930
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:23,359
Like, the concept of safety,
I guess?

931
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,720
That's crazy.

932
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,559
That is the problem
with having close friends.

933
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,039
No, yeah, that sounded worse
than I intended it to.

934
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,399
What happens is when
you have close friends

935
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,279
and you go through a breakup,
it is quite tough.

936
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,359
Because--and now, be honest
with yourself right now.

937
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,879
When a close friend
goes through a breakup,

938
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,719
obviously
you're very sad for them.

939
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,399
But it's also fucking
compelling, isn't it?

940
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,399
Do you know what I mean?

941
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,519
It's hard to look away.

942
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,799
Be honest.

943
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,439
It's like, you know when
a firework accidentally

944
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,399
falls on its side on Guy Fawkes

945
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,839
and it starts shooting
into the crowd and stuff.

946
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,519
And everyone's
a little bit scared,

947
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,599
but they also want
to stick around

948
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,239
to see what happens, right?

949
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,639
That's what it's like
when a close friend

950
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,719
goes through
a fucking heartbreak.

951
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:09,879
And it's tough.

952
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,479
It's so tough,
because the problem is that

953
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,919
your close friends,
they know who you are.

954
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,559
They know who you
are deep down inside.

955
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,039
They know the fucking
real you, right?

956
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,519
They've known you for years
and years and years.

957
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,519
By the same token,
your close friends

958
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,199
know exactly how
you compromised your personality

959
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,919
in order to be
with this particular person.

960
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,279
But this relationship
has now ended, right.

961
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,599
And so,
the shame with which

962
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,279
one must return
to those friendships

963
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,919
is fucking humbling.

964
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,839
The only equivalent
I've come up with is that

965
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,279
it's as if you shat yourself

966
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,719
at a work Christmas party
on a Friday night.

967
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,479
Yeah? You with me?

968
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,559
It's the feeling
of having to come back to work

969
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,439
on the Monday,

970
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,319
just having to be like,

971
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,400
that was crazy!

972
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,919
Who was she?

973
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,280
No, she seems deeply unwell
and deserves our love.

974
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,599
That's how I felt.
That's how I felt.

975
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,479
I felt too embarrassed to turn
to my closest friends

976
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,959
at such a tough time.

977
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,239
It was crazy.

978
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,839
So I just, honestly,
I started, in this breakup--

979
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,879
I started turning
to very, very random people.

980
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,359
Anyone who was
close to me, right?

981
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,399
My 80-year-old grandmother
was living with me at the time.

982
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,519
Quite a weird,
sassy best friend character

983
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,679
to have in one's life
going through a modern breakup.

984
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,839
And she did her best.
She did fine.

985
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,239
She was fantastic.
She was very helpful.

986
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,439
I will say,
it's very hard to explain

987
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,519
to a woman who was born
during World War II

988
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,639
what attachment theory is.

989
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,799
They don't really get it.

990
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,159
She'd be like,
yeah, I think you're anxious

991
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,959
attachment is because
of rationing, I guess, right?

992
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,839
So that was unhelpful.

993
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,199
I just turned to
random strangers sometimes--

994
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,439
complete strangers.

995
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,879
A man had started cleaning
my flat at the time.

996
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,319
Uh, I paid him to do it.

997
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,719
That's an important
detail for that.

998
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:53,959
I did pay him to do it.

999
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,559
His name was Lindsay.

1000
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,679
And Lindsay, oh my God,
he was fucking incredible.

1001
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,999
He was an incredible guy.

1002
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,159
Incredible guy,
terrible cleaner.

1003
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,119
Could not recommend him
with a good conscience.

1004
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,519
Yeah?

1005
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,199
He had a real jazz vibe
when it came to cleaning,

1006
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,079
where he just sort of went
where the spirit took him

1007
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,039
and sort of ignored
large appliances.

1008
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,439
He would light incense and
leave it burning in my home

1009
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,799
a number of times
while I was out.

1010
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,319
And the weirdest one,
I think, for me,

1011
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,679
is that he would change
his WhatsApp profile photo

1012
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,120
every week.

1013
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,919
Something not right
about that, right?

1014
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,799
But he was fucking
incredible, right?

1015
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,599
He was--Lindsay was like,
OK, I just opened my--

1016
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,079
I just completely told him
every single thing

1017
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,879
about this breakup immediately,
the first time I ever met him.

1018
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,439
And the first question
he asked me, he said,

1019
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,480
bird or geezer?

1020
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Bird or geezer?

1021
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,279
And I was like, Lindsay,
you are on the right side

1022
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,080
of history, my friend.

1023
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,759
And then the shame
that went through my body,

1024
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,319
having to stand,
as an adult woman,

1025
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,119
quite seriously
and emotionally,

1026
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,999
having to say to him,
in my own flat,

1027
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
geezer.

1028
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,680
It was a geezer.

1029
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,479
Not that I'm embarrassed!

1030
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,599
Not that I'm embarrassed

1031
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,599
that it was a man
that broke my heart!

1032
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,799
I'm not. I've decided I'm not--

1033
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,799
I'm not embarrassed
to be straight anymore.

1034
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,519
I've come to terms with it.

1035
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,159
I've come to--
it is what it is, yeah?

1036
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,999
All right? I've come to--

1037
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,079
And if anything, it feels like
a little bit of a throwback

1038
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,279
as a dating preference.

1039
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,439
It's a little retro.

1040
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,759
We've kind of moved
past it as a society.

1041
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,519
And yet, I'm in there just
clinging on for dear life.

1042
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,719
I feel like--

1043
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,039
Still dating men,
I feel like I go through

1044
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,439
a lot of the same emotions

1045
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,959
as I imagine people who collect
vinyl records must feel,

1046
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,759
in the sense that
both groups are really

1047
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,639
truly flying the flag
for what is,

1048
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,759
let's be honest, a dying medium.

1049
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,079
Yeah?

1050
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,719
Both of us, just find
ourselves saying stuff like,

1051
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:48,799
well, actually, the fact that
it's largely inaccessible

1052
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,719
and of a low quality overall
is what we find charming

1053
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:52,760
about the format.

1054
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,199
So I was in my flat,
and I was like, geezer.

1055
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,679
And, um...

1056
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,239
Lindsay was like, how long?

1057
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:01,759
How long was the relationship?

1058
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,359
And I was like,
eight months, man.

1059
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,359
Eight months.

1060
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,559
And Lindsay was like...

1061
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,959
What are you
crying about, girl?

1062
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,759
What are you fucking
crying about?

1063
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,159
Lindsay bollocked me
in my own home, yes?

1064
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,519
This man told me
what the fuck was what.

1065
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,479
I met him that day,
and he took me through

1066
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,079
every past relationship
he's been with,

1067
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,559
all that he's loved and lost.

1068
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,719
And he said something to me

1069
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,879
that I will never forget, right?

1070
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,639
Before he left, he turned
to me in the doorway,

1071
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,879
and he said this to me.

1072
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,959
He said, what you got
to understand is, yeah,

1073
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,879
we were put on this Earth
to suffer.

1074
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,079
So all you can do

1075
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,080
is you got to grab your giggles
where you can.

1076
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,879
I don't know if I had just
been touched by an angel

1077
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,719
or Lindsay had once
killed a man for fun.

1078
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:57,679
right?

1079
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,079
I choose to believe the former.

1080
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,639
It's much more charming.

1081
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,199
So I was running out of options, right.

1082
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,159
I couldn't turn
to my closest friends.

1083
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,479
I was too, too embarrassed.

1084
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,759
My Nan went back to New Zealand.

1085
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,839
Lindsay only came once a week, right.

1086
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,879
So I--

1087
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,639
I did what any person of my
sort of general vibe

1088
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,679
and background would do is that

1089
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,079
I turned to the internet.

1090
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,679
Incognito mode, of course,
right, for answers.

1091
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,159
And that's my problem is that
I don't see heartbreak as--

1092
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,839
I see heartbreak
as a problem to solve,

1093
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,279
rather than just fucking
an experience to go through.

1094
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,959
So I will tell you,
when you search a term like

1095
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,439
"can you be broken up with
for being too cool,"

1096
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,399
what you will get is you will
open up an entire corner

1097
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,519
of the internet,
and that is the world

1098
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,519
of online relationship coaching.

1099
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,319
Now, I don't know
if anyone's familiar with this.

1100
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,879
If you're not,
I will explain briefly.

1101
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,239
It is--it's a largely
American industry.

1102
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:51,119
It's kind of adjacent
to life coaching a bit.

1103
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,999
And it's mainly sort of run
by these kind of weird men.

1104
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,239
They're always called, like,
Declan or Gavin or something,

1105
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,799
and they've got suits,
and they're looking like that.

1106
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,359
And their URLs are quite
intense, quite hectic.

1107
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,999
They'll be like, stuff like
HowToGetYourExBack.com.

1108
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,879
Like, YourExWasABitch
ButMaybeTheLove

1109
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,080
OfYourLife.org.edu.

1110
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,799
And these men
were just sinister,

1111
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,399
because this whole industry
was kind of sinister.

1112
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,199
'Cause what they're doing
is they're preying upon people

1113
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,999
at their most heartbroken,
right,

1114
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,239
their lowest ebb of their lives,

1115
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:25,119
and they're trying to get money
out of you, essentially, right.

1116
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,959
They lured you in with these
sort of free online articles,

1117
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,559
and checklists,
and all that that build up to--

1118
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,519
like, weekly podcasts
that you listen to every week.

1119
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,479
Then, eventually,
maybe a workbook or two.

1120
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,359
20 US dollars a workbook.
Why not?

1121
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Eventually, what they're
really trying to get you to

1122
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,119
is ultimately they're trying
to get you to

1123
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,559
one-on-one Zoom coaching
sessions with them, right,

1124
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,839
that can cost like fucking $500,
600 US dollars a pop.

1125
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,159
Right, it's horrible.

1126
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,639
Also, these men,
their advice is fucking shit.

1127
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,759
Yeah?

1128
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,359
Do not take any of the advice.

1129
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,879
One of the tips on one of
these articles genuinely was

1130
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,479
dress every day as if you're
going to bump into your ex.

1131
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,239
Dress every day.

1132
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:07,719
I'm gonna let that sit
with you for a moment, right.

1133
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:08,839
Do you know what that me--

1134
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,999
like, this is how I dress
every day.

1135
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,279
This. I don't want to bump
into an ex-lover

1136
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,039
dressed like this, yeah?

1137
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,599
32 years of effort
went into this look.

1138
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,959
Can you believe?

1139
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,159
Which, sartorially, I can
only accurately describe as

1140
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,039
I somehow managed to, every day,

1141
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,039
dress like, simultaneously,

1142
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,879
a missing child from the 1980s,

1143
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,999
as well as the mother

1144
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,120
searching for
that missing child!

1145
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,319
And I hear a few claps.

1146
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,319
That does hurt my feelings
a little bit, right?

1147
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,599
Because that's the applause
of recognition.

1148
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,559
So I knew I couldn't take
the advice from these men.

1149
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,919
They're fucking awful.
I didn't respect them.

1150
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,879
So I moved on to
a female relationship coach.

1151
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,519
I thought that would
work for me better.

1152
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,199
I found her
in the form of Jillian.

1153
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,439
Jillian.

1154
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,919
Uh, didn't love her vibe either,

1155
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,879
because her tips
were just as bad.

1156
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,879
One of them was genuinely,
drink more water.

1157
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,639
Drink more water.

1158
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,279
Get a bit dehydrated
when you go through a breakup.

1159
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,999
Drink more water.
Fuck you, Jillian.

1160
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,799
I'm fucking heartbroken.
You fucking drink more water.

1161
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,319
What the fuck are you
talking about, girl?

1162
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,959
Shut up.

1163
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,719
One of them was, she said,
oh, join a club.

1164
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,599
You need to join a club.
Be more social. Join a club.

1165
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,639
I'm not fucking
eight years old, Jillian.

1166
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,919
What the hell? Join a damn club?

1167
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,359
Worst one was, she said,

1168
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,959
don't wear AirPods in public,

1169
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,279
because you cut yourself off

1170
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,439
from having conversations
with strangers.

1171
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,239
Over my fucking dead body,
Jillian.

1172
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:38,879
You're gonna have to rip the
AirPods out of my dead, cold--

1173
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,399
I want to be fucking buried
in my AirPods--

1174
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,839
just in case I get buried alive,

1175
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,719
so I can rock out in the coffin.
Yeah?

1176
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:47,879
Jillian--another thing
Jillian was obsessed with

1177
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,759
was childhood.

1178
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,039
I think this is a real big
obsession in therapy

1179
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,439
in general at the moment,
like inner child work

1180
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,519
and stuff like that.

1181
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,639
I don't buy it.

1182
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,919
I don't give a shit.

1183
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,999
I don't care about childhood, right.

1184
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,359
My inner child,
she's on her own.

1185
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,719
OK?

1186
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,079
Do you know what I mean?

1187
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,959
Because, for me,
that's such an unhelpful thing

1188
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,639
to try and, I guess,
dwell on or unpack.

1189
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,399
Because childhood
is a historical event.

1190
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,719
It's happened.

1191
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:13,839
I can't change anything
about my childhood, right?

1192
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,079
It's fucking Stonehenge.

1193
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,199
It's the 2000 Sydney Olympics.

1194
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,159
It's happened. It's done.

1195
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,519
And quite crucially,
as well, I can't remember

1196
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,519
much of my childhood,

1197
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,159
which I think is the first sign
that nothing bad ever happened.

1198
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,999
Yeah?

1199
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,159
I think if something
traumatic happened,

1200
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,080
I would have remembered it.

1201
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,999
I did try mining my past
for moments of trauma,

1202
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,599
the little nuggets of trauma,
to sort of explain flaws I have

1203
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,679
in my adult personality.

1204
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,839
I tried that.

1205
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,399
My dad nearly drowned once.
That was fun.

1206
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,599
That was good for trauma,
I guess.

1207
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,719
Obviously--
but it actually kind of wasn't,

1208
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,039
though, as well,
in that I wasn't that sad.

1209
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,719
I'll be honest.

1210
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:53,559
And I love my dad, obviously.

1211
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,680
Let me explain myself.

1212
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,639
But I'll say this--what happens
when someone nearly drowns

1213
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,039
is that they're nearly drowned.

1214
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,559
But what contextually
that also means

1215
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,680
is that it was probably summer.

1216
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,439
Do you see what I'm saying?

1217
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,879
Like, oh, your dad nearly died.

1218
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,119
But I'm not gonna lie to you,

1219
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,439
the vibes are
fucking immaculate.

1220
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,759
They were.

1221
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:16,759
It was a good year.

1222
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,559
2004, man.

1223
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,039
So I don't have trauma.

1224
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,959
Uh...

1225
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,959
Trauma, not for me.

1226
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,280
Trauma, I hardly knew her.

1227
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,559
I will say this, though,
for the whole thing about

1228
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,839
going back into one's childhood
that I do find interesting,

1229
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,999
and I think a lot of people my
age are probably experiencing

1230
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,039
themselves, is that I realize
I'm finally getting to the age

1231
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,039
in which I am meeting my parents

1232
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,519
at the age that they had me, right.

1233
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,679
We didn't know our parents

1234
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,239
before they were our age, right?

1235
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,799
A-and finally meeting them,
you know,

1236
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,199
adult to adult, face to face.

1237
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,199
And so much more
of my childhood

1238
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,159
is making sense to me now.

1239
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,679
Do you know what I mean?

1240
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,679
The fact that my dad would come
home from work every night,

1241
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,239
not talk to any of us,
go straight to the back steps,

1242
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,319
smoke cigarettes,
and drink coffee till bedtime.

1243
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,039
Now, I'm in my early 30s,

1244
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,679
I'm like,
brother, you do you, man.

1245
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,759
Fucking drinking that Nescafé
as dark as night

1246
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,639
with 14 sugars just to feel
something anymore, Dad!

1247
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,040
'Cause our daddies
didn't have ASMR.

1248
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,279
Think about that for a second.

1249
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,159
Our daddies didn't have
ASMR in the '90s.

1250
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,679
They didn't have
a hydraulic press crushing

1251
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,039
a fucking can of Pringles, yeah?

1252
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,439
How did they wind down?

1253
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,439
All they had was untaxed
cigarettes and the void, right?

1254
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,679
It was hard.

1255
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,399
Also, like, my mom as well.
Fuck me.

1256
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,639
My mom, she had three kids
by the time she was 28.

1257
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,119
Three kids!
That's obscene to me.

1258
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,559
Child bride. Child bride.

1259
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,399
What is going on?

1260
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,399
Three kids at 28!

1261
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,479
I find that insane,

1262
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,519
to the point that if I
met my own mother at this age,

1263
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,919
I would have been
that fucking friend

1264
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,599
who was convincing her
not to have me.

1265
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,679
Do you know what I mean?

1266
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,239
And I don't think
any of us in this room

1267
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:01,959
could call ourselves feminists

1268
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,599
if you wouldn't be willing
to do the same.

1269
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,079
Yeah?

1270
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,519
If you wouldn't be willing
to go back in time

1271
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,599
and convince your own mother
not to have you

1272
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,399
so she could chuck it about
for a few more years,

1273
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,839
right?

1274
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,079
Everyone freaks out
about that whole, like,

1275
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,759
would you go back in time
and kill baby Hitler?

1276
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,239
Bitch, I would go back in time

1277
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,319
and kill myself

1278
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,599
so my mom could go to Bali.

1279
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,039
And that's feminism, I think.

1280
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,959
I think it is.

1281
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,999
So, uh, Jillian didn't
work out for me.

1282
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,559
I knew I couldn't work
with Jillian any longer,

1283
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,879
so I moved on.

1284
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,799
And I found the Holy Grail,
the one.

1285
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,079
And her name was Margaret.

1286
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,199
I want to tell you
about Margaret.

1287
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,319
Margaret was an American lady.

1288
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,879
She was deep into her 80s,
an elderly woman.

1289
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,839
She talked like this--

1290
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,639
right, sounded so crusty
like that.

1291
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,559
And she did these
podcasts I would listen to

1292
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,559
every night before bed.

1293
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,039
And Margaret was
fucking incredible.

1294
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,959
She had a
tendency to sometimes talk

1295
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:01,999
in sort of--
kind of bumper sticker slogans

1296
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,519
when it came to breakups
and all that--

1297
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,199
stuff that everyone's heard
during breakups.

1298
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,279
Stuff like,
the only way out is through.

1299
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,039
The only way out is through.
We've all heard that.

1300
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,999
I don't--I fucking hate
that saying, right?

1301
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,839
And also,
I don't understand it, yeah?

1302
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,839
How is it 2024, hmm,

1303
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,879
and we have not yet
found a way around yet?

1304
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,119
Yeah?

1305
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,079
We have vibrating anal beads

1306
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,839
powered by Bluetooth technology,
huh,

1307
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,199
and we have not yet found a way

1308
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,239
to circumvent the devastation
of a fucking breakup.

1309
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:30,799
What are these scientists doing?

1310
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,880
Have they never
felt love before, right?

1311
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,559
Other ones is that what
you've got to do at this age,

1312
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,639
particularly, is you've got to
figure out what your values are

1313
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,359
and whether or not they align
with the person

1314
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,719
you want to be with, right.

1315
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,039
If they don't, move on.

1316
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,679
If they do, go ahead. Yeah?

1317
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,519
Biggest one was children.

1318
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:50,559
You've got to figure out
whether or not

1319
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,559
you want children or not.

1320
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,879
And if that doesn't match up,

1321
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,439
it's gonna be too much of
an obstacle going forward.

1322
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,799
And I'm embarrassed to say
it was, genuinely,

1323
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,319
the first time in my life

1324
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,359
where I asked myself
not should I have children,

1325
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,359
but if I wanted children.

1326
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,159
And it turned out
the answer was no.

1327
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,239
And it turns out
that is the wrong answer.

1328
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:12,319
OK?

1329
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,719
I wouldn't recommend it.
Do not share--

1330
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:15,759
if that is your feeling,
do not share that with anyone.

1331
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,799
I found that the socially
acceptable answer

1332
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,679
to that question is
"maybe one day."

1333
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,119
Tee-hee.

1334
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,679
A girl never tells.

1335
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:25,879
People love that, right?

1336
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,879
They don't like a flat no.

1337
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,079
They do not like
a flat no, right?

1338
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,079
And even when--

1339
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,599
You know,
I think people accept it.

1340
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,639
I think sometimes people
see my stance

1341
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,359
of not wanting children
as something, like, radical

1342
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,159
or political, like a statement.

1343
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,479
There is no statement behind it.

1344
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,159
There is nothing
radical about it.

1345
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,839
I'm just fucking lazy,
and I don't like bending over.

1346
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,959
All right?

1347
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,239
And that is enough
of a motivation

1348
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:48,599
not to have children.

1349
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,399
God did not make me to get up
before 9:00 AM, yeah?

1350
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,599
And that's OK.

1351
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,799
I think people's motivations
to have children

1352
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,479
are even more fucked up
than that.

1353
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,999
I think some people
have children because

1354
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,199
they don't want to die alone.
They don't want to die alone.

1355
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,399
I don't understand
the logic of that,

1356
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,559
in the sense
that the day you die

1357
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,319
is already gonna be

1358
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,319
a bad day.

1359
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,119
Do you know what I mean?

1360
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,679
So you're going to invest
decades of your life

1361
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,279
to ensuring there
are good numbers

1362
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,199
on that one fucking day.

1363
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,119
Fuck that.
Just pop on a DVD.

1364
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,319
I'll be as happy as Larry.
Let me die alone.

1365
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,439
Let me die alone

1366
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,119
with a box set.

1367
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,319
But I know that about myself,
right,

1368
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,199
and it was amazing
to figure that out.

1369
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,919
But it does not stop,

1370
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,679
I guess, this assumption, right?

1371
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,319
There's still an assumption
that if you're born into a body

1372
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,959
that is capable
of having children,

1373
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,639
that that is something that you
will want to fulfill one day.

1374
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,079
Right, I was at the children's
birthday party recently,

1375
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,439
and I was playing with the kids.

1376
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,559
I love children.

1377
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,999
I get on with them so well.

1378
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,879
And this older gentleman,
he noticed this,

1379
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,439
and he said--
he said to me,

1380
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,359
does it bring out
the mother in you?

1381
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,879
I was like, oh, fuck me,
there's something so sinister

1382
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,039
about that, isn't there?
Because it's not "a" mother.

1383
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,239
It's "the" mother, yeah?

1384
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:03,559
'Cause it's this kind of idea.

1385
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,079
It speaks to this idea that
within every little girl

1386
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,719
there's a little mother
just waiting to burst out

1387
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:09,599
of one's chest

1388
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,119
and sort of eat the host body
to become

1389
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,359
the mother!

1390
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,839
Like, I'm not a fucking
Kinder surprise, dude.

1391
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,279
Like, there's nothing in there.

1392
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,999
It's the same kind of guy
who wants to hit you with those,

1393
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,399
like, biological facts
you always hear as a young girl

1394
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,119
from a young age,
which is so fucking creepy.

1395
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,519
Shit like--
you always hear this,

1396
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,759
I don't know why
I know this fact.

1397
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,359
People are like,
you're born with all the eggs

1398
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,719
you'll ever need your life.

1399
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,439
They're born into your body
as a little baby.

1400
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,519
And you little baby's babies got
all the eggs that they need.

1401
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,959
Like little salmon roe.

1402
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,239
All the eggs
they'll ever need to make.

1403
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,399
It's like, sir, I'm gonna have
to ask you to back the fuck up

1404
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,959
and stop telling me
I'm full of eggs.

1405
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,399
All right?

1406
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,080
Get on the ground.

1407
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,479
I just question,
constantly question, right--

1408
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,039
we're pitted against each other,
people who want kids,

1409
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,279
people who don't want kids.

1410
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,519
It's still quite--
my motivations, I'll admit,

1411
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,199
they oscillate!
They oscillate

1412
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,719
about not having kids
between two positions

1413
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:03,279
depending on my level
of self-esteem

1414
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,839
at that moment in time, right?

1415
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,719
Like, if I'm feeling
good about myself,

1416
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:08,839
the reasoning is that,
well, my grandparents,

1417
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,839
my parents, they perfected
the recipe, over and out, right.

1418
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,159
It's either that, or,
if I'm feeling bad about myself,

1419
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,559
it is, whatever this is
has to end.

1420
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,600
And you need to be the
one who does it, girl.

1421
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,719
But it's crazy, like,

1422
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:29,519
it was an amazing thing
to realize about myself,

1423
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,679
and I had Margaret
to thank for that.

1424
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,319
Because that's genuinely
gonna have an effect

1425
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,839
on all of the relationships

1426
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,799
I embark on going ahead.

1427
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,999
And I have Margaret
to thank for that,

1428
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,919
a woman--a fucking America,
elderly woman

1429
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,119
who would make these podcasts
I'd listen to

1430
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,559
every night before bed.

1431
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,159
And beyond that, right, I think
Margaret taught me that--

1432
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,799
it's so cheesy to say,
but she taught me that--

1433
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,879
you can't really give up.

1434
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,279
I was at a fucking low,
low spot, right,

1435
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,839
when I was listening to her,
and she told me

1436
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,079
that you have to keep the faith,
I think.

1437
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Because sometimes, I think,

1438
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,959
this is the necessary thing.

1439
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,519
This is necessary.

1440
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,919
To go through
all of this fucking--

1441
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,679
all the shitty little things,
all 16,000 words of it.

1442
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,959
And it's all delivering you,
hopefully, to that person--

1443
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,199
that person who is gonna say,
in whatever form,

1444
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,279
I'll be with you till the end.

1445
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,519
And it's never
the fucking first suitcase

1446
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,599
around the baggage claim,
is it?

1447
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,919
It takes a few goes round--
unless your business class,

1448
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,799
to be fair.

1449
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,879
And, uh, yeah.

1450
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,839
So yeah, I have her
to thank for that.

1451
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,359
And I believed her.
And I'm glad I did.

1452
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,359
'Cause a year on, now, later,
from this note,

1453
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,480
I am actually engaged,
which is very exciting.

1454
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,119
Of course I'm not engaged.

1455
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,199
I--

1456
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,480
what?

1457
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,880
Sorry.

1458
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,279
Have any of you been listening

1459
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,199
to a single thing

1460
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,279
I have been saying?

1461
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,279
Of course I'm not engaged!

1462
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,479
Why would I be--also,
why would I tell you?

1463
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,439
I don't know any of you.

1464
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,439
Uh, no, yeah.

1465
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,439
That is a dirty trick.

1466
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,160
But that was on you, I think.

1467
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,479
Uh, I will tell you
what actually happened.

1468
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,519
Yeah?

1469
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,159
I'm not engaged.

1470
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,599
I'll tell you what
actually happened,

1471
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,199
and that is that I was
very, very sad.

1472
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,599
I was very sad.

1473
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,879
And I didn't know why.

1474
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,879
I didn't have the
answers to this,

1475
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,039
because it wasn't
a particularly,

1476
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,119
you know,
important relationship, right.

1477
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,359
But I feel like that's what
happens with breakups, yeah?

1478
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,439
You don't know which one
is gonna take you out.

1479
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,119
It's like having a bad oyster.

1480
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,479
It's just one of them just

1481
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,319
fucking knocks you on your ass,
right,

1482
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,039
And this is the case
with this one.

1483
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,359
So I was desperate,

1484
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,679
and I found myself, uh,

1485
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,119
deciding I was gonna do it.

1486
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,879
I was going to book Margaret

1487
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,959
for a one-on-one

1488
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,399
Zoom coaching session.

1489
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,039
600 US dollars!

1490
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,519
Yeah.
Oh, you're right to gasp.

1491
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,239
Yeah. Whoa.

1492
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,959
No offense,
I can afford that.

1493
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,559
Because I'm a very dangerous
mix of financially stable

1494
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,559
and mentally unwell.

1495
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,359
So I am ripe
for swindling, right?

1496
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,400
I'm like Shelley Winters in
every film she's ever been in.

1497
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,559
It's a niche joke.

1498
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:33,439
So I went to the website,
and I--

1499
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,679
I went to what I assume
would be like a booking form,

1500
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,959
like a contact form to put
in my details and all that.

1501
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,359
And, uh, there was none.

1502
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,839
There was just
a YouTube thumbnail

1503
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,839
that had this little title
on the thumbnail.

1504
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,439
And it just said,

1505
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,200
"A very difficult announcement."

1506
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,679
Yeah.

1507
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,079
So, yeah,

1508
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,959
Margaret died.

1509
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:01,879
Oh!

1510
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,159
Amazing reaction
from people who found out

1511
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,479
she existed five minutes ago.

1512
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,839
Come on off it.

1513
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,919
But fair enough.

1514
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,319
No, that's true.
I know. It's crazy, right?

1515
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,439
It's crazy. But--

1516
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,119
Sorry.

1517
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,519
Not only had she died,

1518
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,039
sorry, it turns out

1519
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,959
she had been dead

1520
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,479
the entire time

1521
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,039
I had been listening
to her podcast

1522
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,479
and reading her work.

1523
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,239
But I don't know if anyone's
ever been Sixth-Sensed before,

1524
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,199
but doesn't feel good.

1525
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,720
Doesn't feel good.

1526
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,639
Sorry, is that not insane
to anyone?

1527
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,039
Guys, for months, I had been
taking the advice from a woman

1528
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,879
who no longer existed.

1529
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,079
What the fuck is that?

1530
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,359
It's terrifying.

1531
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,599
I find that
so fucking terrifying,

1532
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,199
the idea that there was
a version of ourselves

1533
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,599
out there forever.

1534
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,439
There's a version of Margaret
out there in the ether,

1535
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,039
fucking living on forever
and ever, never to be deleted.

1536
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,879
That's petrifying to me.
What happens to me?

1537
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,319
What happens to me?

1538
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,119
What happens to--
what happens to my--

1539
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,959
what's my legacy to the next
generation, if that's the case?

1540
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,039
Is it this note?

1541
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,159
This note!

1542
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,759
This fucking note!

1543
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,920
Cucumbersome, is that it?

1544
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,159
It can't be.

1545
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,079
And that's--you know what?

1546
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,359
That is the weird thing about
even doing this show, right?

1547
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,279
Because it's the same
as Margaret,

1548
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,279
in the sense that Margaret
doesn't exist anymore,

1549
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,039
but the person
who wrote this note

1550
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,839
doesn't exist either, right?

1551
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,079
I barely recognize the woman
behind these words.

1552
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,439
And yet, I know,

1553
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,279
the next time
my heart gets broken,

1554
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,079
I'll fucking meet her again, right?

1555
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,199
Because that's how it works.

1556
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,479
People don't actually change, right.

1557
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,319
This is locked in forever.

1558
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,039
I'm gonna make the same mistakes

1559
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,079
over and over and over again

1560
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,359
on an endless loop.

1561
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,959
And the only thing
I can do right now

1562
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,999
is pull together
whatever scraps of wisdom I have

1563
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,119
in this moment--

1564
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,279
yeah--pass it to the
next version of myself,

1565
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,199
and hope, fucking pray,

1566
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,440
that she does a better job.

1567
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,239
So that's it, really.

1568
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,359
But to be absolutely fair,

1569
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,479
I did warn you at the start.

1570
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,960
I am very bad at endings.



