1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,440 It is said 4 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:12,800 that within every man there is an animal, a beast that simmers, 5 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,440 waiting to manifest 6 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,760 this creature caged behind the bars 7 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:25,439 set by either parents or society's 8 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,440 governing bodies. 9 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,919 Robert Louis Stevenson 10 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,680 in 1885 wrote about such a phenomenon in the book. 11 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,559 Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde 12 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,040 raising awareness to this very fact. 13 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,320 This beast must never 14 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,840 overtake the persona of its host. 15 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,560 It must remain confined. 16 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,520 However, 17 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,399 should the key to its cage be turned, then the beast will rise 18 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,360 with the sole purpose to dominate its surroundings. 19 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Should external forces hold this key, 20 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,240 chaos and disorder would rule. 21 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,839 It is for this reason, 22 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,559 and this reason alone, 23 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,120 the discipline and self-awareness 24 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,240 be the jailors that hold the key to the beast cage. 25 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,920 With both these governing authorities 26 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:37,520 presiding over its release, David Radford is such a man. 27 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,240 He's the jailer to his inner beast. 28 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:46,040 However, 29 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,520 within this custodial relationship, 30 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,360 there is but one question that remains. 31 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,799 Who has the power? 32 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,999 Is it the beast or is it 33 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,520 the jailer? 34 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,760 This is my journey. 35 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,120 Hemsworth 36 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,480 A small village in West Yorkshire, 37 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,599 nestled amongst like for like villages 38 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,600 in that area. 39 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,080 Hemsworth first mentioned as far back as the Domesday book, 40 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,000 in 1086. 41 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,280 Then through the ages, in the middle of the 16th century, 42 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,440 it could boast its own hospital and school. 43 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,719 As time moved on in the middle of the 19th century, Hemsworth became 44 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,999 what was termed a one industry town, 45 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,400 and that was that of coal mining. 46 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,600 Now, this lasted to the mid 1980s, 47 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,080 when the pits were finally closed. 48 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,599 Yeah, it was a lively village. 49 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,080 And then when the mines closed in the village 50 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,840 A lot of them men worked down the pit. 51 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,720 So everyone's struggling for jobs and it was like a little depression, 52 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,640 you know, and the entire community was struggling 53 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,999 and at one stage was classed as one of the most 54 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,600 deprived places in Europe. 55 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,600 And then the money come rolling in and it just boosted it and brung it all back to life again. 56 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Now, some men are born fighters. 57 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,520 They come into this world kicking and screaming, 58 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,560 protest, shouting against the handling of the attending midwife 59 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,760 on the 30th of May 1969. 60 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,239 Dave Radford was born into the loving 61 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,600 Radford family, 62 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,879 As his mother, Shirley 63 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,799 and his father, Terry, held him. 64 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,840 Little did they know or could even conceive 65 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,920 what fate had planned for him 66 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,640 as he negotiated the maze of life 67 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,879 where he would emerge 68 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,159 to become Britain's middleweight 69 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,399 bare knuckle champion. 70 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,400 But to Dave, equally as important as that title, 71 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,400 he would become an ambassador for his sport 72 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,480 that the majority misunderstand. 73 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,280 Yeah, it’s good to be back dad. I’ve drove up this morning, 74 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,439 This is where it started, David. 75 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:05,320 You were born here and we’ve had a lot of good memories it brings back. 76 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,159 Yeah, everything. 77 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,240 Everything comes from this little bubble in here, do you know what I mean, 78 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,800 I've just been up here now to put my clothes in the little bedroom, and I'm thinking, 79 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,959 well, I have not been any for years. 80 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,679 that little, little bedroom like that. 81 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,399 That were my bedroom, you know, absolutely brilliant. 82 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,320 But, 50 odd years of memories 83 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,199 Can you remember Benjy? 84 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,280 That black dog. 85 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,400 He were killing machine. 86 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,399 Can you remember when he got lost? 87 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,360 When you took him to the vet and he got lost 88 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:37,919 in Barnsley. 89 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,999 And vets must have opened the door 90 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,959 and he got out. 91 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,399 and we used to go around for a long time walking around 92 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,999 looking around, shouting him. And we couldn't find him for 2 weeks. 93 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,999 And then we sat watching telly and he walked what we were endeavoring to monitor. 94 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,519 They were interviewing someone 95 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,840 and he walked along, he walked along didnt he! 96 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Anyway, we got him back. 97 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,359 Yeah, I always remember collecting my scrap 98 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Bringing my scrap home and er, 99 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Getting all in the garden there, it were like a 100 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,679 And then I would ring Gordon up, and Gordon would send the man up 101 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,080 with the pickup and put in all on. 102 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:14,839 And I used to 103 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,880 make a decent bit of money at that age of 14 year old. 104 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,879 But can you remember that what that you call it, car 105 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,040 that old Ford? 106 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,999 the old Ford car. 107 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Old scrap car. Aye, old scrap car. 108 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,839 And you said, dad, can I knock that to pieces and get the scrapman 109 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,159 to come and pick it up. 110 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,839 So you worked on that car for about a fortnight chopping it. 111 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,279 piece by piece 112 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,079 And then you sent for scrapman and he says 113 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,760 20 quid 114 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:45,839 Aye, he said if you brought it down whole, I’d have give you 30! 115 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,280 And I spent, I spent two weeks chopping it up. 116 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,039 I remember coming home and telling you I was going to become 117 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,520 a boxer in that gym, that opened down in Hemsworth. 118 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,599 I remember going down first night, and I never, never had a fight in my life really. 119 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,120 I think I had one at school and only won that one because she had asthma attack 120 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,399 went down one at nights 121 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,599 These two young lads think I was 16 at the time 122 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,080 There were two lads about 13 123 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,119 what already boxed and I got in the ring with one of them 124 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,120 and I thought, I’ll be all right here 125 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,679 and he give me a good hiding and then I got in 126 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:24,479 with the other one, and he give me good hiding 127 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,279 I’ll always remember walking home thinking he’ll not do that next time. 128 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,760 but it happened for six or seven months 129 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,439 They realize what I'm doing then. 130 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,960 Yeah but I never thought David 131 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,640 When you little lad, you were so placid 132 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,039 and so laid back. 133 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 I never thought in my wildest dreams you'd have been a boxer. 134 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,239 I know. And I didn't really know myself dad. 135 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,919 And then I didn't know what happened 136 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,320 I always remember having a fight 137 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,799 bit of a do with someone on Crosshills and it wasn’t supposed to have happened. 138 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,600 And it happened. 139 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,639 and I impressed this bloke 140 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,880 and he said to me he‘s opening a boxing gym tomorrow, er Monday 141 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,800 and I walking up home thinking he thinks I’m hard. 142 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,000 and that’s the only explanation I can give I won't have a clue what got 143 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,319 I mean, I often wonder about my friends at school 144 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,639 I haven’t seen them for years and years, but they’re same as yourself. 145 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,839 You said there, never would have thought 146 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,079 Who would have thought that I would have been a fighting man 147 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,119 do you know what I mean 148 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,800 from boxing to cage fighting to bare knuckle fighting to unlicensed boxing, 149 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,440 It was a surprise to myself, you know what I mean. 150 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,519 I wonder if thats where I have inherited my mining days from Dad, doing me, 151 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,559 you know, pipe jacking 152 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:38,320 and things, where you’ve been an ex-miner. 153 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:40,999 Did you work at Hemsworth pit? 154 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,039 I worked at Hemsworth 155 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,800 I think I had seven years at Hemsworth. 156 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,639 They used to call it bread and herring pit. 157 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,559 because there were no mechanism, 158 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,840 It was just ponies I think we had two shafts 159 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:55,439 It was ponies down there then? 160 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,720 We’d had nearly 150 161 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,000 And it was pick and shovel. 162 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,039 You know what I mean like, 163 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,399 just braying at that wall with a pick and shovel 164 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,839 We used to chip a bit out of the bottom 165 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,279 What were er, Were it timber heading 166 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,879 Did you have timber above you? 167 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:09,199 Oh yeah. 168 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,039 You got to do because you couldnt take your coal 169 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,240 You couldn’t axe out coal. 170 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:14,719 Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, I didn't realize. 171 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,519 Or pit ponies down like in your time and when you were 172 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,719 Mining. Aye that’s 173 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:19,559 pick and shovel. 174 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:21,760 And then I went from Hemsworth 175 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,199 ‘cause my brothers 176 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,999 I had two brothers, they worked at Hemsworth 177 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,679 My dad worked at Hemsworth 178 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:30,559 and my Dad’s brothers worked at Grimethorpe 179 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:33,480 They're was a big family of us that worked at Grimethorpe. 180 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,520 And I did more or less nearly 20 year 181 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,200 with both. 182 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,399 As Dave grew 183 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,880 both Dave and all those around him 184 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,240 actually had no idea what destiny had planned for him, 185 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,440 what role he would need to fulfill. 186 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,599 So at this time he just remained camouflaged with the rest of his friends 187 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,400 and peers, with ill fitting clothes, kicked out trainers 188 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,280 riding bicycles that were a mutation. 189 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,759 Life was hard. 190 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,040 It gave very little praise and even less presents. 191 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,560 that was all apart from his mother. 192 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,040 As Dave returned home from school every day, 193 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,600 she would ask the same question, 194 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,320 And what's my little man been up to today? 195 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,280 What the purse or the wallet couldn't pay for 196 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,800 Dave's imagination funded 197 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,280 and never more so as it paid for entry into Hemsworth's answer 198 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,520 to the complete adventure pack for all children. 199 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,839 Or, basically the collection of derelict buildings 200 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,480 just across the street from where Dave lived. 201 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,279 Once here with his friends, he would join the ranks of soldiers 202 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,320 fighting invading forces. 203 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,719 Now you could say 204 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,039 that was this destiny, preparing Dave for the battles 205 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,280 that he was to have in the future, in the Brickyard pond, 206 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,319 In the Brickyard pond, 207 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,080 in his vessels, with his shipmates, he would fight pirates 208 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,920 and also watch as sea monsters, try to capsize his vessel. 209 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,480 And here the necessity to swim was met with. 210 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,719 Again, was destiny 211 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,800 preparing Dave with upper body strength? 212 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,639 Dave Schooling, his education. 213 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,959 Well, I think it would be fair to say that Dave's education 214 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:03,000 took more of a hands on route rather than the customary, academic route. 215 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,359 His lessons included canoeing. 216 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,720 Now, again, 217 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,320 was this to prepare Dave for throwing his weight 218 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,680 For moving his shoulders as he put his paddle against the water. 219 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,960 But the other benefit this gave, Dave, 220 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,440 was a somewhat flexible timetable 221 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,759 which allowed him 222 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,480 to sneak back out through the school gates. 223 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,760 To once again walk through his front door 224 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,320 in silence 225 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,240 with the objective to help his mother out 226 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,840 with the housework 227 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,280 as she is self slept upstairs 228 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,160 after finishing a night shift at the local hospital. 229 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,319 At the time in Hemsworth, there was a man that lived on the streets. 230 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,200 His name was Cyril. 231 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,280 People would either walk past him at best 232 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,920 or cross the road to avoid him. 233 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,520 Not Dave. 234 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Dave would go home, make a cup of tea 235 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,120 and take it back to Cyril. 236 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,319 He would then give Cyril 237 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,240 the best gift one human can give to another. 238 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,960 And that was the gift of time. 239 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,519 Dave would sit and listen to 240 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Cyril, listen to the stories that he would tell the boy, 241 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,999 and in doing so, 242 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,480 acknowledge that Cyril was a human being. 243 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Yeah, this was Blue Bell pub. 244 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,040 I’ve had many, many a fight in there and outside, and on this ground. 245 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Never ever caused it, I've always had to defend myself 246 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,719 My first ever fight there 247 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,679 was when my sister Gail rung me up 248 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,959 and she says ‘you need to get down here’ 249 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,320 ‘there's some trouble’ 250 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,999 So I come down 251 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,279 and erm, 252 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,239 there were all big gang should around and everything 253 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,759 they were having a go with my brother 254 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,920 It finished up, this fella 255 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,920 saying you know, and everyone were laughing and things 256 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,160 So I stood there and said, He’ll not fight you, but I will. 257 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:35,879 Well, everybody laughed then 258 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,839 A skinny little thing 259 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,839 but I were sober 260 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,799 For some reason, I don't know where it come from 261 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,560 I hit him and knocked him to the ground 262 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,679 and everyone was 263 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,000 It just went silent, it went silent. 264 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,999 A change in events, a collision of circumstances. 265 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,640 Now most renowned people can trace this back 266 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,719 to were fate, nudged them to take a specific 267 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,240 fork in the road 268 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,399 and to walk a path 269 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,920 that would lead them to their notoriety. 270 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,200 The young Dave Radford, up until this point in his life 271 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,199 had remained camouflaged, 272 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,680 grouped amongst his friends. 273 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,079 For the first time, Dave Radford 274 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,959 heard the beast, his inner beast growl 275 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,240 as it passed the cage and clawed at the bars 276 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,279 as the young Dave Radford 277 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,599 held his fist skyward and marveled 278 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,000 at what he attained 279 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,239 Again, 280 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,799 Fate had played its hand, 281 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,759 It placed somebody in that crowd, 282 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,400 Dave's friend, Shaun Higginbottom. 283 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Shaun approached Dave and informed him that his father had opened the boxing gym 284 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,880 and advised Dave to attend. 285 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,839 But I was thinking to myself, this lad thinks I’m hard 286 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,759 Do you know what I mean, So I went down and 287 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,079 I ended up 288 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,479 starting my boxing career down there, but 289 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,720 I didn't know how to hold my hands or anything, and 290 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,239 I got a good hiding every night when I went down 291 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,999 And then I started getting better and that 292 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,360 and then when things starting happening, whereas I was 293 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,200 you know, still only a skinny little lad, a eleven stone lad 294 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,159 So whenever I was out and people saying 295 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,839 He’s a boxer 296 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,759 They wouldn’t have it, these big lads 297 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,359 and they’d forever 298 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:19,679 Take mickey out of me, 299 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,719 It’d always finish up fighting 300 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,239 Do you know what I mean 301 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,680 I’d end up having to hit someone. 302 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,039 it worked every time for me, you know, worked every time. 303 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,199 But, 304 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,040 When I started bare knuckle fighting and it came on YouTube and things 305 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,839 People seen me then 306 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,600 and I'd be able to go out and relax. 307 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,399 So people, 308 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,679 Didn’t want to hassle me then. 309 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,999 Do you know what I mean, Didn’t want to hassle me then. 310 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,719 and they didn’t want to know. 311 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,799 But I’d get a handshake rather than a stare 312 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,319 and it were nice, and thats 313 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,639 I didn’t want trouble, do you know what I mean. 314 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,320 But er, 315 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,440 like I say, 316 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:54,040 you don’t have to go looking for trouble 317 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,079 It happens anytime 318 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Do you know what I mean. 319 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,679 And when Alan opened 320 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,119 YMCA 321 00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:20,440 of course it were a new thing in the village. 322 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,959 So everybody wanted to have a look 323 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,840 and I went down 324 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,120 and you walked through the door 325 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,880 and that’s when I 326 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,080 when I first got to know you as the would be boxer a type of thing. 327 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,399 I wish you would have turned round to Alan and said 328 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,160 He’s barred! 329 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,360 and I wouldn’t have gone through it! 330 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,480 but yeah I mean, 331 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,239 well, looking back now it’s how we met and we started 332 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,400 we did a lot at Alans and then 333 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,079 starting doing a bit of training at yours 334 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:46,599 if you remember, 335 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,159 we used to do some pad work upstairs. 336 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,799 Yeah upstairs, I’d converted all the attic. 337 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,719 Yeah 338 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,599 Carpet down and 339 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,480 done walls out and that 340 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,079 do a bit of weight training and that wouldn’t we 341 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,079 not too much like, but a bit of punch bag 342 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,759 didn’t we, and hand pads 343 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,399 hand pads 344 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:00,880 yeah 345 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,239 That was as well as going to gyms though two or three times week. 346 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,759 That were extra like, wasn’t it. 347 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Yeah, different gyms. Yeah 348 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,279 I was, 349 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,800 I remember you saying from that moment I knew 350 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,079 that you were going to be a fighter, you know, I did like. 351 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,079 Yeah, that's what I knew. 352 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,159 Yeah. Yeah. 353 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,360 But, you seen me with the pro game 354 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,519 Another fighter I got on with 355 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,920 I think it was my first, first professional fight and 356 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,639 He got in ring and 357 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,440 and a few people comments saying, you know 358 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,679 what's this boy 359 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,200 It’s like a welterweight getting in with a heavyweight? 360 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,880 Well, I was stood with your dad 361 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,640 He came out first 362 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:44,720 like he come out first and he walks to ring 363 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,640 I looks at the dad, the dad looks at me as if to say 364 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,679 he's come out to wrong fight 365 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,799 He's not fighting our Dave surely? 366 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,520 But he was... 367 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,200 and can you remember Dave 368 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,520 Manager said I'm sorry Dave, I won't do that to you again. 369 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Yeah. 370 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,759 afterwards 371 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,999 I wonder how many times he should apologise again and again 372 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,359 ‘cause I got to do more than once Pete didn’t I 373 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,479 Yeah, yeah. 374 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:08,880 But 375 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:10,960 Dave, you never lost a fight 376 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,360 That was fair 50/50 you never lost one. 377 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,479 Yeah. 378 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,040 You only lost against bigger kids and 379 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,640 but the thing is what it is, Dave, 380 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:25,920 they look at the boxing record and it says Dave Radford beat by so-and-so, 381 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,319 but it don't say so-and-so were three stone heavier than Dave. 382 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,799 It just said beat by 383 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,119 So they don't see it, Dave do they 384 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,559 They just read a record and think god 385 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,799 Look there, you know what I mean 386 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,439 Yeah. 387 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,680 They don’t know truth 388 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,319 Yeah, I had some 389 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,759 had some very bad mismatches Pete didn’t I really... 390 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,079 I bet, I bet, 391 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,719 75% of the fights Dave were mismatched 392 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,519 Yeah. 393 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,680 but not mismatched in your favour though, Dave. 394 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,280 It was always mismatched in opponents favour. 395 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,439 want it, know what I mean. 396 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,120 Yeah 397 00:22:58,360 --> 00:22:59,480 Two stone 398 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,480 I bet some of them were two and half stone heavier 399 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,800 You know and 400 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,680 Well you see with it 401 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,119 If I’m fighting a guy that’s two stone heavier 402 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,519 I've got everything on me I’ve got the weight 403 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,080 I've got the clinch I’ve got everything but 404 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,279 All it is for him is he’s beating me and 405 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,680 he’s going up the rankings here 406 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,679 and I'm going lower down because 407 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,640 I've not won but 408 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,240 It doesn’t show you there that I’m fighting a guy 409 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,279 I'm up against it all 410 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,159 Do you know what I mean 411 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:24,840 No, yeah. 412 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:26,639 I don't know if you remember Dave 413 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,000 We went to one show and we got weighed in 414 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,999 Can you remember a kid called Alan Pennington from Liverpool? 415 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,920 right broad scouse? 416 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,079 No 417 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,959 He gets on scales, chuffing hell, chuffing hell 418 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,039 I’m 11.4 419 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,759 That's right. yeah. 420 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,360 He said 421 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,559 He said, well what did they put you down as? 422 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,400 11.2 423 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,279 Ah well go on then, we’ll make it 11.3 424 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:46,639 Yeah. 425 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,879 So they put him down at 11.3 and we saw him get on the scales 426 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,280 at 12 stone four. 427 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,880 Yeah, that happened a-lot didn’t it. 428 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,359 It happened all the time 429 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,320 It is scandalous 430 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,160 And that's all just to let the 431 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,279 to make sure fights happen that night 432 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,479 because crowd had paid to get in there 433 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,759 and if there was only 3 fights on 434 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,040 when there should be 15 on 435 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,920 I just seemed to be on the back end all the time didn’t I really 436 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:11,919 I mean 437 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,880 and you never complained Dave once 438 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,920 I was managed wrong do you know what I mean, but, 439 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,480 best thing that happened to me was 440 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,880 meeting Trevor Carrigan, you know, brilliant 441 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,600 two great trainers there, James Walker and Trevor Carrigan. 442 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,159 All he was bothered about was boxers. 443 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,040 He wasn’t bothered about, you know, making money or whatever. 444 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,959 And that's how it was. 445 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,359 Well, but I mean, he got me the Duran fight, you got me, you know, Copenhagen 446 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:43,039 Yeah. 447 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,960 I were looked after with him, he got me Belfast and 448 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,240 Yeah. 449 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,319 He got you some decenters didn’t he 450 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,639 Yeah. 451 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,400 He got me up to 9 in the country. 452 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,720 One of the fights that stick in me mind 453 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,919 when I fought Dave Larkin 454 00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,519 Dave Larkin 455 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,119 Yeah. 456 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,919 Now, Dave Larkin had a good, good manager. 457 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,920 I think he was Micky Duff 458 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,360 He was 459 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,079 A lot better boxer than me and everything because 460 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,360 He’d been doing it a lot longer and 461 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,560 He fought and been managed properly. 462 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,240 Very good amateur career. 463 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,799 And I was thinking, I ain’t gonna win this one, 464 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,240 but 465 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,359 I wasn’t bothered about that 466 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:22,559 It was the villages 467 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,719 Do you know what I'm saying 468 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760 His village, our village and things and 469 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,680 I always remember, 470 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,279 big crowds, yeah 471 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,319 It weren’t just boxer against boxer was it, 472 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,119 It was village against village wasn’t it 473 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:35,879 Yeah and I was thinking to myself, 474 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,639 I didn’t want this fight, I'm thinking, no, no, no. 475 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,560 But, I took the fight. 476 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,839 If you’d have lost that everyone else would have linched you 477 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,080 yeah, yeah 478 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,719 I’d have been like Guy Fawkes Village. 479 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,400 but erm, 480 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,960 anyway, when that happened, 481 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,200 Dave were a, as I say, a very skillful boxer and everything 482 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,159 and I just couldn't believe on the night it went my way 483 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,560 and I ended up winning on points, but erm 484 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,120 I did not think that were gonna happen. 485 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,880 Well we used to train at a few places didn’t we, we used to do 486 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,799 obviously, YM with you 487 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,239 when we first started 488 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,559 then over to Batley in Dewsbury 489 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,279 But then we’d also do my loft, didn’t we 490 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,719 Yeah. 491 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,560 And then can you remember Dave when we used to go above King's head 492 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,280 Me and you and then Eddie faces started coming and that. 493 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,039 But it was always Pete 494 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,159 It was always after work wasn’t it because 495 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,559 Yeah. 496 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,920 Still had to work, doing a 497 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,719 working 498 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,559 eight, nine hour shift and going straight home, bathed, 499 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,159 straight to the gym again, do you know what I mean 500 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,560 Most of them boxers in the gym, they've been in bed all day. 501 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,279 Yeah. 502 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,720 So they would have more energy wouldn’t they, and 503 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,400 Thats how it was. 504 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:55,959 On our nights off not going to the gym, 505 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,119 I’d be up at yours in the loft, 506 00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:57,719 Yeah. 507 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,679 We'd be doing a bit of light weights. 508 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,599 Yeah, bit of light weights 509 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,519 I always remember it was never heavy weights 510 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,879 We had a punch bag up like 511 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,279 Punch bag up and hand pads 512 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,400 bit of sparring 513 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,839 It's always our favourite isn’t it, hand pads 514 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,279 Yeah. 515 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,039 It’s always our favourite exercise isn’t it. 516 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,400 Yeah. 517 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,839 Your getting your power out there. 518 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,159 Yeah. You get your power. You get your timings. 519 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,719 Yeah 520 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,999 You get your speed 521 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,200 you get the lot don't you. 522 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,120 But going back to work, 523 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,679 As I say I’ve worked with you over the years 524 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,320 But erm, 525 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,840 I remember being at Barnsley I was pipelaying there 526 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:32,360 I was on 10 hour shifts 527 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,800 and I get up in the morning and I used to 528 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,200 a 4, a six, a eight and a 4 run a week. 529 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,159 You know on a morning I’d get up at 5am 530 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,919 running 531 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,920 get back, have a bath 532 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,800 I’d go in my car, start work at 7am 533 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,600 I'd finish at 5pm 534 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,920 get in my car 535 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,519 still in Barnsley, I’d go down road and park it up, 536 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,680 James used to come pick me up 537 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,320 and then I’d go from there to Huddersfield. 538 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,600 Pro-Gym there, I used train in there 539 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,279 I get back about half nine at night 540 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,479 get in the car and come home 541 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,239 I’d be out the house 18 hours some of the times 542 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,719 and, not a lot of boxers did that 543 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,040 I mean, a lot of years wasn’t it 544 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,920 Probably going back what, 545 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,760 about 35 years since you walked through that door down there 546 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,000 Yeah, yeah. 547 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,480 When's the next fight tha’ say 548 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,280 I like that ending... 549 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,040 I love that ending... 550 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,919 Hey, you think I'm joking? 551 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,679 don’t you 552 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,360 You think I'm joking? 553 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,440 Don't let Michelle here you, don’t let Michelle hear you. 554 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,279 This is where my first gym was 555 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,080 I think I was 556 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,480 maybe 557 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,040 19 / 20, or something like that 558 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,639 But this place itself 559 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,039 It were my drinking place when I was younger 560 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,839 and I've had a lot of fights here do you know what I mean 561 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,719 People from other villages that erm, 562 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,800 that needed disciplining, do you know what I mean because 563 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,920 they’d come and they’d 564 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,120 see a small little lad like me and 565 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,639 looking at my reputation 566 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,479 what I had they couldn't believe it sometimes 567 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,559 Do you know what I mean 568 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,360 I’ve fought many a fight in this pub and 569 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,640 George and Bell across the road 570 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,080 but yeah I did a lot of fighting up here but 571 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,400 I remember one day 572 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,080 I think was me and nasty Neil Neil Coleman we was 573 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,800 fighting on the floor 574 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,159 we were giving each other some fists and was 575 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,120 smothered in blood 576 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,000 and door opened 577 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,679 and I just managed to look to the side and there was a 578 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,719 A fella with a 579 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,520 youngish lad, maybe 12 or 13. 580 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,000 and when I looked again they was 581 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,839 They were like that. 582 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,520 And then we carried on 583 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,400 And then we’d finished 584 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,560 I could hear these 585 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,359 going down the steps 586 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,360 So I jumped up and went after them and said ‘hey’ 587 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,840 ‘What do you want to join?’ 588 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,159 He said I’ve come here for my son to join, he said. 589 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,199 But this is wrong place for me, he said. 590 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,279 Wrong place for him, he said. 591 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320 But I said, No, no, no. 592 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,319 You've got it all wrong. 593 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:17,399 And I explained to him, but yeah, I've had some very nasty sparring sessions up there. 594 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,159 You know what I mean, very nasty and 595 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,759 Neil Coleman, Gav Keane 596 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,039 There's er, 597 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,439 I started with young George, I mean, 598 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,840 young George Probert was up here 599 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:25,960 Mark Oates 600 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,000 On a Sunday morning sometimes 601 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 I’d shout Mark or Mark would shout me 602 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,160 Do you fancy a couple of hours like but, 603 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,480 Nice and steady, we both agreed nice and steady. 604 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,360 So I'd say yeah, anyway 605 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,519 Probably Mark would get me in a 606 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,679 we were fighting on the floor then 607 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,040 He’d get me in a move and I couldn’t get out of this move. 608 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,879 and I wasn't going to tap... 609 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,000 the only way I could get out of it was maybe drop head on him. 610 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,679 So I’d drop head on him 611 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,520 and that were it then 612 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,320 and then 613 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,320 4 or 5 elbows into chops he’d to get me then 614 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,039 Sunday dinner would be in the bin and 615 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,560 soup again because I couldn’t open my mouth to get my 616 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,480 dinner in, chew my ‘taties 617 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,720 but erm 618 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,039 yeah this has been absolutely a god-send to me. 619 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,920 You know, being on my own doorstep. 620 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,120 Now, Dave may have found his first gym 621 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,279 a place where the 622 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,319 underdeveloped and ill coordinated limbs of this juvenile 623 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,880 beast would learn and be developed. 624 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,280 The place was within the bull ropes. 625 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,000 Their strength gained 626 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,479 and their movements coordinated by pitting himself 627 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920 against outmatched opponents. 628 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,200 Now, Dave's development as a boxer got to such a point 629 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,160 whereby the custody of this young fighter 630 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,600 needed to be given to somebody who had the ability 631 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,160 to see his full potential, 632 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,559 as well as the aptitude 633 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,440 and the skill to place Dave onto a world stage 634 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,999 where everybody could see the level he had attained. 635 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,160 Now, that man, being no other than James Walker. 636 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,400 We got an offer for a real step up for Dave. 637 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,600 And this guy called Davey Johnson 638 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,039 Everyone was talking about him. They thought he was the new 639 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,520 Herol ‘bomber’ Graham at the middleweight division. 640 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,959 He was, hit you and you never hit him, he was 641 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,679 moving all round, beautiful skills 642 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,760 really really really good boxer and we were fighting with him 643 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,839 I think it was a ten round or an eight round, a fight. 644 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,840 And, and we started losing the fight because Davey Johnson was a better boxer. 645 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,080 Far better boxer. 646 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,920 But 647 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,840 Dave's determination and Dave's belief. 648 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,960 I remember we went out for the round and he was 649 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,080 and it was Davey Johnson was just getting the better of him. 650 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,159 I said, you’re gonna have to get to him and he knocked Dave down. 651 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,880 And it wasn't the strength of the punch, 652 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,920 it was the accumulation of lots of punches, you know. 653 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,559 And I said to him, determination, determination. 654 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,559 And he got a bit frustrated because he couldn't. 655 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,680 And anyway, they came into the corner right above us. 656 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,360 and they were there and Dave just let this left go 657 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,680 and he was just up, just pop and it went that far 658 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,120 and it crumpled and he was gone and 659 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,839 Dave knew it hurt him. 660 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,839 And Davey Johnson, he was fine in the end. 661 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,879 He went to hospital, unfortunately, but it was unbelievable. 662 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,880 And it was like, wow, well, you know, this is amazing. 663 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,160 And he beat Davey Johnson. 664 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,799 He had his strength 665 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,360 That was his strength he had his determination. 666 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,599 But he could, his hands were dynamite 667 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,600 he could hit with both hands and they were and they were heavy hitting hands. 668 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,119 And Dave had a fantastic jab. 669 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,799 One of the best jabs I've ever seen. 670 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,800 Real solid jab, they hurt. 671 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,039 The hurt as hard as any most people's 672 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,080 right hands. 673 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,599 And then we got a fight with a kid called 674 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,680 Martin Jolly 675 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,599 What a tough lad Martin Jolley was 676 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,719 Classed as a journeyman 677 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,720 But if you beat Martin Jolley you were a good fighter. 678 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,759 He was so tough and I knew it was going to be a tough fight for Dave. 679 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,440 I knew it was, and we trained hard for it. 680 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,519 And again, I said to him, It's all about that jab. 681 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,519 It's all about that 682 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,080 that devastating punch. 683 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,040 And he beat Jolley and he sickened Jolley. 684 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,760 and in the end, Jolley came up to me at the end of the fight and he said, 685 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,240 he says, I've never been as hard with a jab 686 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,480 and Jolley as fought the majority of the middleweight champions in England. 687 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,520 And he said, ‘I've never been solidly hit as hard.’ 688 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:40,639 And for that kid to say that was, was amazing. 689 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,760 And then we got the call to go to Belfast 690 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,960 and we went over and we were fighting the next big thing, Danny Ryan 691 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,599 and Danny could punch with both hands, but he was a little bit 692 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,400 like Davey Johnson, very slick, very good boxer. 693 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,960 The first time I fought him, I got a draw with him. 694 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,720 It was very close and I got the draw but I did break my 695 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,239 break my hand in the second round so I fought, I fought 696 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:34,440 another 4 rounds with a broken fist, I think it was a 6 round fight 697 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,040 and yeah, Danny was a nice lad 698 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,919 But then I went to Africa, 699 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,160 I come back from Africa and I jumped in with Danny again for the second time 700 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,960 and he stopped me in the second round. 701 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,479 And he put me down. 702 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,319 I got back up saying I slipped, which I thought I had slipped. 703 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,799 But when I've watched it back now I know he puts me down and then Referee 704 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,200 joined us together, we fight again. And 705 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,600 He ends up stopping me, Referee stopped him 706 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,519 He’s a cracking lad is Danny 707 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,160 You know I had a good erm, 708 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,080 A good conversation with him, we talked about his 709 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,080 obviously Irish are my grandmother are both Irish, so 710 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,880 we had a good crack together, it was alright. 711 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,120 Once again, fate would dial the phone, 712 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,600 but this time it would be James Walker that would pick it up. 713 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,920 And the voice coming out of the earpiece 714 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,360 would offer Dave a monumental point in his life, 715 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680 as well as a fantastic opportunity 716 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,520 in his boxing career. 717 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,120 So, of course, when I put phone down, 718 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,560 where are you? 719 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,280 And if I remember I was ringing around everyone ringing your dad, ringing home 720 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,160 and no one knew where you were. 721 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,239 I was at my sister's plastering 722 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,159 I’d got a couple of week off work 723 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,360 and she wanted some work doing 724 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,479 and I was plastering her kitchen. 725 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,999 and I was halfway through, I’d got it 726 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,520 I got it on the wall and everything. 727 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,200 I think you rung Michelle, 728 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,320 you said, you know, I’ve got you a fight 729 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,560 We have to fly tomorrow, It’s South Africa, 730 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,400 I says, ‘South Africa?’ 731 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,800 He says ‘yeah’, I says 732 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,679 ‘yeah, no worries’, he went 733 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,159 ‘well don’t you wanna know who you’re fighting?’ 734 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,079 I says ‘Who am I fighting?’ 735 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,440 He went, ‘Roberto Duran’ I went, ‘he’ll kill me!’ 736 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,560 But, you packed your bag as quick as anything 737 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,959 and to your credit, you never asked how much the purse were 738 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,160 we were just down and 739 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,400 and straight down to Heathrow 740 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,599 and we drove 741 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,040 from the airport to the center of Johannesburg 742 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,520 and we got out the van. And 743 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,520 and we got out the van. And 744 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,399 it was the scariest thing I've ever done in my life 745 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,760 walking if you remember. 746 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,399 I remember that it was 747 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,439 It was a very scary place, looking over my shoulder all the time wasn’t it 748 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,639 Well, it 749 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,280 You could hear you remember those gunshots 750 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,840 all the time 751 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,959 and then it was gloves on time. 752 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,280 Do you remember that? Do you remember when the gloves went on? 753 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,479 Yeah, I remember then 754 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,919 that's when my head went into shape. 755 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,359 And I said right, you know, this is it now 756 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,559 I'm going out to war, and now I remember I always go into that mode, 757 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,000 you know, when I put the gloves but I was very nervous, you know, 758 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,200 it didn’t matter because them people didn’t know me 759 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,600 but it was who I was fighting do you know what I mean 760 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,760 and I’m just thinking to myself, you know 761 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,239 I've watched this man on television and I always thought he was a beast 762 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,760 Do you know what I mean and then I'm getting in and fighting him. 763 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,039 So yeah but, I was 764 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,599 very, very nervous. 765 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,360 I mean, it was let's be honest, he was number three in the world. 766 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,600 And you were, I don't know, 767 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,040 200 in the world at that point, the world before you fought him. 768 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,639 So then the knock on the door came and it was time for us to, to go in. 769 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,679 And the security guard opening the door and just being hit 770 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,280 by the cameras and the lights and the people. 771 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,079 And we came down and they walked us through. 772 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,759 But yeah, that took it for me. 773 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,519 It was breathtaking looking at the crowd and everything and that 774 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,079 But then I’m mooching around there all of a sudden I looked at the side of the ring 775 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,080 and who were at ringside there, one of me heroes, marvelous Marvin Hagler 776 00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:02,400 suffering Jesus 777 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,080 I was gobsmacked. 778 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,840 and same as when Duran got in the ring 779 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,519 the first thing I want to go over and shake his hand and say 780 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,960 you know he was one of my heroes as well and 781 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,399 and I was fighting him, so it was 782 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,800 So I had to keep myself in that zone and you know, 783 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,600 forget it all day, forget it all. And 784 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,440 but yeah, it was 785 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,199 in that ring it was 786 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,559 It was a dream, you know, what you see on television 787 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,080 and fighters get into ring and there's all this crowd there and everything 788 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,359 and it happened for me do you know what I mean and 789 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,199 yeah it was 790 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,400 amazing, it was brilliant 791 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,560 but to fight in that heat 792 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,600 and to fight 3 minutes rounds, and to fight Duran 793 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,720 I was thinking to myself this is, this is not looking good. 794 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,840 This is not looking good specially with the heat but 795 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,720 Like I say, ding ding, round one started 796 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,400 When I was fighting Duran, I was struggling with the heat and breathing 797 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,119 but it was different class. 798 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,920 you know, a world title level you know to a British 799 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:36,320 title more or less type of thing or someone in the top ten. 800 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,359 It just seemed to be his body movement 801 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,360 He’d come to the body bang to the body 802 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,999 and you were tense, you had to tense up 803 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,320 to take this shot, big hard shot to the body 804 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,439 and then he’d more or less know 805 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,640 he might stick a jab in me 806 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,160 knowing then 807 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,600 I could breathe 808 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,680 to get my air 809 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,320 soon as I’ve to, breathe 810 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,639 your man would drop downstairs and 811 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,840 come in again, do you know what I mean, and it was 812 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,279 his skill level 813 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,520 knowing when I breathing when I wasn’t breathing, 814 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,000 when to hit me, when not to hit me, when I needed that air. 815 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,480 Your man would drop down and put it in again so that I got 816 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,439 short breaths, you know what I mean? 817 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,039 And that's a different level altogether, you know, world champion 818 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,480 You know what I mean? 819 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,520 I think five time world champion. 820 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,920 I end up having an hernia operation after that. 821 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,039 I ended up 822 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,919 He hit me low, er, 823 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,760 three or four times 824 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,799 I noticed when I was getting in the shower I got a 825 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,559 lump and I'm thinking, you know what is this 826 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,039 he bust the wall of my stomach 827 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,680 and I ended up having an hernia operation. 828 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,600 and a lot of fighters will agree with me on this 829 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,399 you can get up from a good chin shot 830 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,680 but you won't get up from a good body shot. 831 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,879 When you get one in the rib cage there 832 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,479 A good body shot your not getting back up from that 833 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,040 before 10 do you know what I mean? 834 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,639 This one I went 835 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,400 into a dressing room afterwards, erm, 836 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,200 To meet, to have a proper meet with him. 837 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,680 Absolute gentlemen. 838 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,520 These gloves. 839 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,400 These gloves what you’ve hit me with a few times 840 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,960 These are the original gloves 841 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,639 I fought Roberto Duran in these gloves. 842 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,399 They gave him me them on that night. 843 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,759 They gave me them, to put on. 844 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,240 I went to Duran's dressing room 845 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,159 and they agreed I could have the gloves. 846 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,960 And your man signed them there 847 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,399 they're better than anything. You know what I mean 848 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,600 they're better than anything. And they've got his DNA on, my DNA on 849 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,679 They are the original gloves I fought Roberto Duran in, and 850 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,879 They might have a bit of Michelle’s DNA on, ‘cause 851 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,880 She’s hit me with them a few times, haven’t you 852 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,119 There’s this one here 853 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,799 Hemsworth boxer, verge of top ten. 854 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,039 I always wanted to 855 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,279 I've always wanted to get in top ten, 856 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,160 you know, I used to buy boxing news and read it and 857 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,480 look at ratings and things like that and 858 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,800 my dream was to be in the top ten. 859 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:07,560 And I fought Duran and then ended up being in the top ten. 860 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,320 So I was really, really pleased with that. 861 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,160 The Roberto Duran fight propelled Dave up the rankings 862 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,520 and the wave that he rode and allowed all in the boxing world to see him. 863 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,400 But as we know, 864 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,400 all waves at some point must come crashing down. 865 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,720 And when they do so, 866 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,320 they change the landscape. 867 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,960 When Dave's wave came crashing down, 868 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,919 the view of his boxing career 869 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,240 changed forever. 870 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,960 The accident broke Dave's bones, 871 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,600 but it also fractured his boxing career. 872 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,240 When I had that accident at Huddersfield 873 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,599 that were a bad situation that. 874 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,679 Yeah, yeah. 875 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,760 Well I remember when that happened 876 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:22,879 getting a phone call, 877 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,920 off your ex-wife called me and will I take her to hospital, you’ve had an accident. 878 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,000 So again, I flew through 879 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,400 seen you laid there 880 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,360 absolutely devastated because the fine fit young man that went to work that day 881 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,879 was in just in a horrible place, to me 882 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,840 you were on death's door. 883 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,360 They reckoned it would have killed any normal man 884 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,880 They reckoned it would have killed any normal man 885 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,560 It probably would have. 886 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,000 Say I was down, down the shaft, 48 foot deep. 887 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,720 So we're digging, digging away. 888 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,959 And then every now and again, you sink the shaft. 889 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,639 You push the shaft from the top. 890 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,040 But every time we're pushing the cage would come down, we'd get in the cage. 891 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,759 Then we'd go out of the shaft 892 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,440 But anyway, the top man had gone away to the toilet 893 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,319 and then Patsy shouted to me, he said, ‘We're going to push’ 894 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,639 So I give him thumbs up. 895 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,920 I carried on because usually it take about 5 minutes for cage to come down. 896 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,960 So I'm walking away and then all of a sudden I put jackhammer into the ground 897 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,440 and John got out of the machine 898 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:22,840 and 899 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,880 I never looked up, but I was waiting for the Cage to come down. 900 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,679 Then all of a sudden, the shaft dropped. 901 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,040 It went 902 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,480 John went ‘Borrrr’ 903 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,560 and I laughed at him, I remember laughing at him. 904 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,679 But I didn't know what had gone off was 905 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,480 Patsy said to your man, I'm going to push 906 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,520 Well he’d 907 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,239 the top man had gone to tip, gone to the toilet. 908 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:46,800 So the engineer walking by 909 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,280 so he pushed a button to push the shaft 910 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,880 and not knowing, you know, what he should have been doing. 911 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,319 And as the shaft dropped 912 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,280 there were some metal shoes that weighed just about 2 stone. 913 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,120 and they fell in 914 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,320 there were four, but two were on rope 915 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,320 they weighed two, two and a half stone 916 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,760 er, one 917 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,679 hit me on top of my head 918 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,519 but luckily enough them helmets George 919 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,519 You know what what I mean, you think that they’re nowt are they but 920 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:14,879 Yeah. 921 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,879 That saved me 922 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,600 That hit me on top of my shoulder and broke 923 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,399 broke my collarbone, big plate in my collarbone 924 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,640 my jaw, six vertebrae’s in my back I’ve crushed 925 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,200 but I was the lucky one 926 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,600 John bless him, he 927 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,999 he ended up paralyzed like, he’s in a wheelchair now but, 928 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,920 No, it was a sad time, it was horrible 929 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,600 to see two fit men going to work one day 930 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,199 one mistake from one man that has knackered two lives. 931 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,479 I woke up and looked 932 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,119 and there was about this much water in the shaft 933 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,599 it were all red 934 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,719 There were paramedics here, so I don’t know how long I were out. 935 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,559 Well, fire service had to get you out. 936 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,319 I was looking around thinking, what's going on? 937 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,079 And then that just got John in a stretcher who, took him out. 938 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,640 Anyway, the story behind it, when whatever the inquest, the inquest 939 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,360 them shoes what fell in 940 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,639 the weighed two and a half stone, and were traveling at 60 mile an hour 941 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,199 and weighed just over a ton. 942 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,199 Well I lucky enough 943 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,600 Well unlucky enough to go visit the site and I looked into the shaft 944 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,799 and it was, I don't know how many meters it was 945 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,800 but it was scary the fact that something of a substantial size 946 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,639 and weight could fall off the hydraulic ram that it was connected to. 947 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,120 It could have been a simple safety pin that stopped it doing that 948 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,800 It nearly killed two men. 949 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,040 Paralysed one man, that’s 950 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:27,960 Yeah. 951 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,319 but anyway that was work experiences and you live and you learn 952 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,479 That, as I say I were a 953 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,920 young fit man then that 954 00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:37,519 professional boxing license was took off my straight away 955 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,400 so I had no license 956 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,199 Obviously your license got taken away from you, your boxing license. 957 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,640 which you loved boxing, training, fighting. 958 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,439 So you had to move on to something else. 959 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,840 Well, what could I do, British board of boxing control 960 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,720 took your license away from you. 961 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,800 Never asked if they could 962 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,960 No, no, they didn’t have to, with the condition of you. 963 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,879 Eventually went I 964 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,239 when I could walk and get myself back right, I had to try and clear me head 965 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,760 because I was down and depressed because I couldn’t work 966 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,119 I ended up going for long walks. 967 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,960 And I remember 968 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,200 Sunday morning taking me daughter for a walk, I was taking Becky. 969 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,560 We got to the gate and I looked into the cul-de-sac 970 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,040 and I saw a car on fire... 971 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,919 Part of Dave's rehabilitation. 972 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,160 to aid him back to a full recovery 973 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,000 was to take a daily walk. 974 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,120 On one particular morning, he set off with his daughter Rebecca, 975 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,480 with the aim to walk to the local shops. 976 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,280 Now, as Dave exited his front gate, he would normally turn right 977 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,279 on this particular morning 978 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,199 he actually looked left 979 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,519 there in the street was a parked 980 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,680 car stationary without its engine running 981 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,439 and he couldn't 982 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,840 understand what drew his attention towards this car. 983 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:22,319 But as Dave approached, he started to see thin wisps of acrid 984 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,280 smoke escaping from the vehicle 985 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,520 through the window seals. 986 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,160 As Dave approached the car, he looked through the blackened glass. 987 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,320 The sight that met his eyes stopped his heart 988 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,240 and lifted his stomach. 989 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,800 There in a child seat, 990 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,920 was a small child, motionless, 991 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,680 Dave frantically opened the door 992 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,919 and with a strength that he could not fathom, 993 00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,439 assisted by the heat of the flames, he held both sides of the child seat 994 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,679 and ripped the melting plastic straps from the car. 995 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,319 He held the child in the street, wishing the fresh, 996 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,560 clean air would fill the child's lungs. 997 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,600 Dave's next action was to run back down the path. 998 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,640 That only seconds earlier, he'd walked up 999 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,599 to dial 999 1000 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,920 and contact the emergency services. 1001 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,320 Now, it is said 1002 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,600 that there is a plan for all of us 1003 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,640 a predetermined screenplay 1004 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,920 that at times we cannot understand. 1005 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,920 Now, if that block of steel hadn't had fallen 1006 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,760 or if Dave hadn't been in the bottom of that pit. 1007 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,760 Would have been anybody 1008 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,520 to pull that child from the burning car. 1009 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,080 And if, in fact, there was, would they have had the strength 1010 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,760 to rip the child seat from the anchoring straps. 1011 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,840 I remember I went to Doncaster 1012 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,080 and I was in the dressing room with Neil and Gavin and I just said 1013 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,880 So whats up with him, he said 1014 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,720 His opponents not turned up. 1015 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,519 I went, oh right. 1016 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,440 So I just went over and I said to him, 1017 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,360 ‘Are you all right?’ He said, ‘My opponents not turned up’ 1018 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,680 I said, ‘What do you weigh?’ he went, ‘14 stone’ 1019 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,959 I says, ‘I’m 14 stone, I‘ll fight you’ He say’s ‘what?’ 1020 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,559 I says 1021 00:53:58,560 --> 00:53:59,439 ‘what it is mate, 1022 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,239 I've been to shows and my opponents not showed up in boxing.’ 1023 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,399 I said, but it does, it's upsetting. 1024 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,720 I said, But I’ve done a bit of cage fighting training 1025 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,440 but if you wanna have a fight tonight, I’ll fight you 1026 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,480 You sent me to the car for shorts 1027 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,920 And I’ve got a pair of shoes on 1028 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,079 And I mean, I had my shoes 1029 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:18,760 We’d gone to watch 1030 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,880 Then I walked in and 1031 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,520 First ever cage fight you gave a good account of yourself. 1032 00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:25,960 Yeah, I ended up beating this guy, but erm, 1033 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,040 I’ve took lot of fights on short notice 1034 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,199 When I fought 1035 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,440 Michael Bisping, that was another one. 1036 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,480 You realise that he went on to be a UFC champion. 1037 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,000 He never did, did he? 1038 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,440 The thing is with you, you turn up 1039 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,199 You don't care what the man is on the other side of the, your opponent. 1040 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,480 You’ll just turn up, and have a good go. 1041 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,319 Give a good account of yourself. 1042 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,960 Like you say, although you lost to him 1043 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,080 He’s turned on to be one of the greats. 1044 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,639 but you’ve never turned a fight down yet... 1045 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,200 No, but I wish I’d have stopped at home that night. 1046 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,600 Well, you’ve seen it how it happened, when you go 1047 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,239 when you go to these bareknuckle fights. 1048 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:02,840 and it’s, when it first started a long time back 1049 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,799 in nightclub, F-club 1050 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,840 You’d go and your opponent would turn up so it’s 1051 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,959 Well you look same size him, you fight him. 1052 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,280 You know nothing about the man, nothing at all. But 1053 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:13,959 if he 1054 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:14,759 If your game enough. 1055 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,960 if you want to fight you have a fight and that’s it 1056 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:17,760 It’s 1057 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,399 Win, lose or draw 1058 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,200 Yeah, it’s 1059 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,119 taking part and 1060 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,039 having a good old scrap 1061 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,280 to walk away and people say 1062 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,120 'That were a right scrap that’ that time you know it’s 1063 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,079 I want to win every time but If I don’t win, as long as it's talked about that fight 1064 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:32,720 do you know what I mean, it’s 1065 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:33,920 it’s erm, 1066 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,880 giving people the money's worth, do you know what I mean. 1067 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,520 Dave Radford in side control here 1068 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,600 and he’s tapped! He’s tapped! 1069 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,000 Mark Goddard what’s he doing? looking at the ring girls? 1070 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,600 Come on Mark, the guy has tapped. 1071 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:47,919 Oh nice. 1072 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,040 And there we go, he’s seen it now he’s stepped in 1073 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,080 beautiful, beautiful on one hour’s notice 1074 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,759 Dave’s been in there with everybody, he’s a good fighter 1075 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,040 a tough guy, a hard man, a very hard man, well done. 1076 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,720 When you’re used to having all that 1077 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,799 well do I call it punishment? 1078 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,039 What I'm saying all that, all that aggression, 1079 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,440 the fighting and things like that. 1080 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,679 And then all of a sudden to say it stops 1081 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,879 you don’t do it anymore 1082 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,079 It doesn’t just stop 1083 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,200 You know what I mean, you carry on, yeah, er 1084 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,199 So yeah I got no license 1085 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,159 so I ended up training people actually, and then 1086 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,640 when Neil and Gav Keane come down 1087 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,359 They asked me, you know 1088 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,199 with a bit of boxing skill 1089 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,920 because we are cage fighters, and I asked, ‘What’s this cage fighting about?’ 1090 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,720 Anyway, they 1091 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,559 showed me what is was about 1092 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,120 you know, 1093 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,959 kicking and things and it was a lot harder than what I thought 1094 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,320 do you know what I mean, and er, 1095 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:46,640 Then I ended up 1096 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,400 training with them at Andy’s place and 1097 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,520 having, having a 1098 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,640 you know some brutal sessions, you know kicking shin on shin, blocking 1099 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,440 Oh, It was savage but 1100 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,360 I jumped in and ended up fighting 1101 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,000 Ian Rush 1102 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,280 and then I fought another guy 1103 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,519 He were well up there but I can't think of his name 1104 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,240 but when I, when I jumped in with Ian Rush 1105 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,200 I beat the man, I beat the man. 1106 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,560 and then for some reason I ended up fighting him again. 1107 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,520 And what happened, what happened with Ian Rush 1108 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:20,920 Second time I fought him 1109 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,040 He put me in a chokehold, a rear naked choke. 1110 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,880 and he started squeezing and 1111 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,880 obviously you’re gonna go to sleep, your on the way to your bed. 1112 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,800 And what your man did 1113 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,479 He got me in this choke, I was going to sleep 1114 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,840 I thought, I ain't. I'm not tapping. I'm not tapping. 1115 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,639 So I went to sleep. 1116 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,440 But when I come round I was shaking, I was shaking. 1117 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,320 So I always thought to myself, if anybody gets me in that choke again, 1118 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,239 I felt embarrassed. 1119 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,200 So I thought, I'm going to I'm going to definitely tap. 1120 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,480 And I fought this other guy really up there I can’t think of his name 1121 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,119 you know, skillful. 1122 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,240 And then he got me on the floor and put me in a rear naked 1123 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,480 and he put me in a rear naked choke 1124 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,320 and he was sending me away to sleep 1125 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,239 and I tapped like this and he wouldn’t stop. 1126 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,800 and I were going to my bed 1127 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,600 anyway, when I 1128 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,879 when the referee stopped it, I jumped up and I kicked off because he didn’t let go. 1129 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,039 He showed you disrespect, but he showed it to you. 1130 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:18,559 Yeah, 1131 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,080 So I was a bit annoyed over that but 1132 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,120 I tapped because 1133 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,839 I was embarrassed when I went to sleep last time. 1134 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,360 When I come around I was shaking it and I just though no. 1135 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,919 Nigel Benn, I got in with Nigel Benn 1136 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,160 It was all for charity, for a young lad bless him, he’s 1137 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,160 You know, it was 1138 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,360 money to be raised. 1139 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,440 And we knew when Nigel said to me, don't you try knocking me out. 1140 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,519 I knew straight away, I’m not gonna mess about with Nigel Benn 1141 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,999 or he’d put me to sleep. 1142 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,839 If you’d had seen him training in that gym 1143 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,319 In that dressing room 1144 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,600 You wouldn't be messing with him. 1145 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,879 No, that’s what I’m saying, I knew for a fact 1146 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,039 so that's why it was just 1147 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,200 playful stuff because 1148 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,560 I knew if I tried to try a silly shot with Nigel 1149 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,479 He’d have put me away to my bed straight away do you know what I mean. 1150 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:09,959 So I just 1151 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,079 No, its respect in it. 1152 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,519 and that’s the big thing. 1153 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,879 And it don't cost a penny that respect, you know what I mean and 1154 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,640 And that's, that's why a lot of these fighters 1155 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,280 It’s the same with the bare knuckle fighting, 1156 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,039 A lot of people look at me and think 1157 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,799 you must be nasty horrible people and things like that 1158 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,799 No, it’s, you don’t have to be nasty horrible to be a 1159 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,239 to be a fighter, do you know what I mean? 1160 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,959 But people don't realise afterwards that I'm all right 1161 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,200 The first day when I'll get up, the next day I'm all right 1162 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,800 for me, for some reason, the third day 1163 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,839 when I've had a good scrap like 1164 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,880 same as James McCrory 1165 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,960 yeah, James McCrory the second fight, 1166 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,720 It was, you know, brutal and 1167 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,119 that’s my medicine 1168 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,880 that’s your love, that’s what you need 1169 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,360 Yeah it's, just it’s weird. 1170 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,360 I once travelled down to Hinckley with Dave Radford. 1171 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,000 He picked me up he was 1172 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,320 invited 1173 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,839 They were having a few of the known fighters around the ring it was at a 1174 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,080 working men’s club in Hinckley 1175 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,680 and, er, 1176 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,199 Dave said, well, I don't have to pay in here because 1177 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,320 he said they know I’m coming, I've got a seat ringside. 1178 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,680 I thought, well, I'd like a seat ringside. 1179 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,279 So as Dave got 1180 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,159 to the door to where the security men were 1181 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,920 he just said to him, Dave Radford? 1182 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,079 Yeah, he said yeah yeah, I know who you are mate 1183 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:44,759 in you go 1184 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:45,879 I said, ‘Dave Radford’s trainer’ 1185 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,519 He said yes, in you go, go and get a seat. 1186 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:52,000 So we’ve finished up both sitting ringside and, er 1187 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,999 just before the first bout word came about 1188 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,400 one of the fighters had not turned up and 1189 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,800 Dave just went, erm... 1190 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,120 I'm just trying to think if I've got any shorts in the car 1191 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,839 He said, only I don't want to, I’ve got my best jeans on 1192 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,799 I don't want to get blood on them. 1193 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,400 I said, Well. Why are you going to fight? 1194 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,880 He said, Well, if you don't turn up like I'll I'll stand in for him. 1195 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,159 I said, ‘you don't know who you're fighting, Dave.’ 1196 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:21,799 He said, 1197 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:22,879 I don't bother about that. 1198 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,120 He said, Not really, don't really concern me. 1199 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,040 I said. 1200 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,439 Surely you want to know. He said, no, I'm not really bothered. 1201 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,120 Anyway, it turned out like it was a heavyweight bout. 1202 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,999 Fame and glory my lad, fame and glory. 1203 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,080 Get it done, Radford. 1204 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,920 and the man who’d not turned up was fighting a big 1205 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,640 I would think about 6 foot 4 1206 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,320 man, who must have been about 17 stone 1207 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,679 I said ‘oh but look at the size of him Dave.’ 1208 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,360 I said 1209 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,040 and I said 1210 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,799 the size of him don't worry you Dave? Not really. 1211 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,679 He said, I’ve fought big en’s before, he said they look even bigger 1212 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,440 you know when you knock them out and they’re laid down. 1213 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,160 I’m gonna tell you a story. 1214 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,840 When I working in Barnsley, Barnsley town center, we’d sunk a shaft 1215 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,800 And anyway, we got this shaft sunk and job done. 1216 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,999 And boss said to me, ‘what, you like at block paving?’ 1217 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,559 I said, Oh, I'm perfect, so 1218 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,880 It was a really big area it was to block pave. 1219 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,039 Anyway, Saturday afternoon 1220 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,200 I'm working away there and 1221 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,959 we've got this big harris fencing around, you know, 1222 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,760 obviously to stop people walking by us and things. 1223 01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,040 So when we are working away there 1224 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,239 I could hear this bit of noise, I was on my knees 1225 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,720 putting blocks down and what was this noise 1226 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,760 I looked to the side and there was a man there 1227 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,320 He got the old queer fella out and he was having a pee 1228 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,919 I looked up at him and he was just staring at me 1229 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,080 you know, giving me the eyes 1230 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,359 and there was about 6 of them that were sat on a bench. 1231 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,400 That's where they come from. 1232 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,400 So, anyway, your man had finished and 1233 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,760 I looked at Darren, and I said, Darren 1234 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,560 ‘Where are the CCTV cameras around here?’ and he says, 1235 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,160 I don't know why he says 1236 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,080 I’m gonna go off my head in a minute. 1237 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,600 And anyway, I've got a Stihl saw at the side of me. 1238 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,440 and as this saw was at the side of me 1239 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,080 I could hear these two 1240 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,279 fella’s talking with these other fella’s 1241 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,080 and he’s saying 1242 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,080 if I take that saw off him, can you sell it? 1243 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,800 he says, I'm telling you now, I can sell it... 1244 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:47,600 You know 1245 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:49,120 He said well, 1246 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,880 get it off him and we’ll have a bit of money off it, 1247 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,280 then all of a sudden the lad turned around and he said 1248 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,920 I'll go in there and give him a good hiding 1249 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,040 and we'll take the saw. 1250 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,800 So I looked across, and says ‘give me a good hiding?’ 1251 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,600 he says, ‘Yeah.’ 1252 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,119 And I jumped up, pulled my helmet off, pulled my top off 1253 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,440 and went running around and, your man who tried peeing 1254 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,799 He came towards me first 1255 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,600 and I banged him with a beautiful left hook 1256 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,680 he dropped to the floor, the other one who come 1257 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,880 straight forward I hit him with a lovely right hand 1258 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,199 and other one grabbed hold of me, both grabbed each other 1259 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,240 He was trying to bite me, he was doing this 1260 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:29,200 but 1261 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,319 What happened was, when he was trying to bite me 1262 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,080 I was pushing him away, and he was pulling towards me 1263 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:35,920 Your man who I’d hit with the left hook 1264 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,880 Who were crumbled on bank, side of the bank 1265 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,040 He were getting up?! 1266 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,440 I kicked him in face to make him stop down. 1267 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,880 And as he went down again, 1268 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,719 this guy was pulling me towards him and I was pushing, 1269 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:52,959 I just let go with my hand 1270 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,400 Bang! 1271 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:54,840 I dropped in with head 1272 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,759 So as he fell down, 1273 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,199 he fell onto the harris fencing. 1274 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,200 So when I banged with that left hook, and kicked him, your man still got up 1275 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,760 he jumped in the compound to me and as he jumped in 1276 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:07,000 I heard this 1277 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,920 someone talking and when I looked it was two traffic wardens. 1278 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,720 They said to this lad 1279 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,720 I wouldn’t go in there if I were you mate. 1280 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,479 Anyway, he come towards me 1281 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:16,680 and I was shaking right hand 1282 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,039 He were looking at right hand and soon as he looked at right hand 1283 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,560 Bang I let go with left hook 1284 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,560 Bushka, he’d gone, again 1285 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:23,920 anyway 1286 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,079 as I’m messing around with the fencing these 1287 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,400 three blokes picked themselves up 1288 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,640 but police were, police were coming 1289 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,280 anyway they just run off these fellas 1290 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,160 and Sunday morning, I were working away me and Darren 1291 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,639 and these two policemen 1292 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,160 come walking by and your man said 1293 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,919 ‘Do you have any more trouble with them go off?’ 1294 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,720 I went, ‘No,’ I says 1295 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,039 They never came back. 1296 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,319 He said ‘no they didn’t come back, we locked the up’ 1297 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,520 I said, ‘Oh, sound, sound.’ 1298 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,240 He says, ‘bloody hell, you can fight can’t you?’ 1299 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,079 So I said ‘yeah I was only defending myself.’ 1300 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,119 He said, we were watching it last night on 1301 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,960 CCTV camera, and he were pointing up, it was just above us, camera. 1302 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,880 and I laughed and I says 1303 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,999 ‘Is there any chance of a copy of the video?’ 1304 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,240 He said, don't push your luck. 1305 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:18,400 Dave was now fully aware as to the presence of his inner beast. 1306 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,919 He was also aware of its capability, its capability to mete out 1307 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,680 discipline to those that required such a life lesson. 1308 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,959 Now, Dave 1309 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,480 would be the jailer to this hidden persona. 1310 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,999 It was he that would decide 1311 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,360 whether to turn the key in the lock of the cage door 1312 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:45,040 anti-clockwise, granting this beast freedom. 1313 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,680 He would then use self-discipline as the referee 1314 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,560 to call time on its liberty 1315 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,480 before once again turning the key in the lock on the cage door. 1316 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,640 But this time it would be in a clockwise direction. 1317 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,160 The beast needed a cause. 1318 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,640 He needed an outlet. 1319 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,679 and the exercise yard 1320 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,999 the jailer discovered, was in the shape 1321 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,120 of a ring of bales, 1322 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,999 an arena for bare 1323 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,480 knuckle fighting. 1324 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,800 Now, in order to understand this sport, 1325 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:31,479 as well as its code of conduct, there is actually no one better placed 1326 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:36,320 to do so than that renowned bareknuckle boxing promoter 1327 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,240 Andy Topliff. 1328 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,959 Where did it all come from? 1329 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:47,280 Basically, it started off with Elizabeth the 1st 1330 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,599 Now Elizabeth the 1st 1331 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,920 she allowed pirates, right. 1332 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,799 She allowed her sailors 1333 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,679 As such, there was no such thing as a paid army in those days. 1334 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,200 You got paid when you were at war and that was it. 1335 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,239 And we was at war with France for over 100 years. 1336 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,559 So we was always at war with France. 1337 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:09,840 That's just standard. 1338 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,199 Elizabeth the 1st, the first she actually 1339 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,680 she allowed Sir Francis Drake and so on 1340 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,760 to become pirates. 1341 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,279 They had these great big swords and they had great big spears, 1342 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,519 you know, on their ships. 1343 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,319 And they had all these big fancy weapons which on the battlefield 1344 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,680 would scare the hell out of you. 1345 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,680 But the Brits were well known for always winning. 1346 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,640 And the reason why is because Sir Francis Drake, 1347 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,240 he basically worked out in his head, that, 1348 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,440 don't use big swords don't use big spears 1349 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,280 just use knuckledusters use small swords 1350 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:53,160 but teach every single man on the ship how to fight. 1351 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,159 He had to know how to box. 1352 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,079 If their weapon fell on the floor, they had to know 1353 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,839 how to get the guy, heatbutt him, knock him out and do the business. 1354 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,520 Okay. 1355 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:10,080 Anyway, when these soldiers all came back home, 1356 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,760 they didn't have anything to do because you only got paid when you at were war. 1357 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,120 So basically the way they made their money was by fighting in taverns. 1358 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:20,400 You know, the pubs 1359 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,360 They used to go into these pubs 1360 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,320 and they used to have to fight for the money. Now, 1361 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,280 when the Civil War happened, they realised 1362 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,800 that they were onto something here. 1363 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,679 they made something called the new model army. 1364 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,719 And that was the Royalists. 1365 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,640 And then you had the parliamentarians. 1366 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,399 Now every single soldier had to 1367 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,600 learn how to fight 1368 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,440 if the weapon got dropped on the battlefield 1369 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,799 if they dropped their weapon, they had to learn. 1370 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,640 And it was called milling. 1371 01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,999 And it was because the old millers 1372 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,560 years and years ago, they were tough blokes. 1373 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,960 and milling stayed with the Brits in the British Army ever since. 1374 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,239 And what it was when these guys 1375 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,800 came out of the army, as I said, you know, they had this big civil war. 1376 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,879 And at the end of the Civil War, there was all these soldiers 1377 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:24,280 who every week were very good at milling or boxing. 1378 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,119 And boxing never used to be glove fighting. 1379 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,680 And it used to be bareknuckle that was boxing, you know, 1380 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,199 these soldiers, when they came out, they had nothing to do. 1381 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,479 And again, exactly the same as in the Elizabethan times 1382 01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:43,400 with Sir Francis Drake’s sailors 1383 01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:45,199 You know, 1384 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,560 the country was at this time it was absolutely adrift 1385 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,240 with ex soldiers, 1386 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,760 you know, parliamentarian soldiers who milled. 1387 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,600 So they, in this time, 1388 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,480 it was different because there were so many them. 1389 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,560 You got your champions and you started getting you know, 1390 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,799 your super heroes and your really well known guys. 1391 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,919 And before you knew it, you'd have newspapers writing about certain 1392 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,360 bareknuckle fighters. 1393 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,279 When I was younger, I always used to read about the old, bare knuckling days. 1394 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,599 you know, back then and they’d fight for hours. 1395 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:26,799 But they were men of honor. 1396 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,039 You know what I mean, they were gentlemen. 1397 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,520 And when they won, 1398 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,520 They used to have a bit of cloth here 1399 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,520 Your man would take the cloth away. 1400 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,120 It were his, that was trophy in a way. 1401 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,879 I think Bob Fitzsimmons comes into mind. 1402 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,000 I think he had maybe about 106 fights 1403 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,440 and knocked, I think half of them out. 1404 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,519 he was someone I always read about and he were a 1405 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,160 gentlemen do you know what I mean all them old type fighters were all gentlemen. 1406 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,400 but they would fight for hours. 1407 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,159 Yeah Andy Topliff, he was the first man to bring bare knuckle boxing back, publicly 1408 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:16,800 since the late 1800s. 1409 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,559 He put a lot more rules in it 1410 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,839 Set it a lot more safer should we say. 1411 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,880 A count to 20 If you get knocked down. 1412 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,239 and he cared for the fighters, and he thought about the fighters. 1413 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:28,680 He weren't there for the money. 1414 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,359 He thrived on the sport like I did, 1415 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,800 He was very educated on bare knuckle fighting 1416 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:04,000 The new middleweight, UK champion, Dave Radford! 1417 01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:08,880 I first met Dave Radford 1418 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,479 It's quite an interesting story actually. 1419 01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:14,360 I'd heard of Dave Radford through many, many years. 1420 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,560 Basically, he’d become a bit of a legend to me, you know, 1421 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:24,080 I wanted to fight him when I was younger, even though I didn't know the guy. 1422 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,399 He was the only name I kept hearing. 1423 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:32,039 You know, who the f*** is this Dave Radford, you know? 1424 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,000 But the very first time I met him 1425 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,600 It was Harry's bar, he come up the lift and 1426 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:43,599 And as soon as I saw him, I saw these big high cheekbones, big smile on him 1427 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:48,080 because he's got such a lovely smile and what a gentleman he is, you know? 1428 01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:49,279 Yeah, yeah. 1429 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,040 Hello my mate, you know, big hand shake, you know it was 1430 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,080 it was a nice moment for me anyway. 1431 01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,039 and he said it was for him as well. 1432 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,560 So when he fought James McCrory, 1433 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,759 he was like, Andy you know, make sure you get me someone who’s 1434 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:13,199 good because I never can find anyone you know, everyone I find 1435 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,799 I can just, I can knock them out straight away. 1436 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,000 I want a proper fight, you know? 1437 01:14:18,440 --> 01:14:20,679 All right, then I'll do as I can. 1438 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,800 Now, Dave Radford’s always said, Andy, you're the one man 1439 01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:26,120 who's always got me beat! 1440 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,680 He said, he said 1441 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,680 any other time, he says, I'll win. 1442 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,160 He says but you, is like me demon. 1443 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:39,439 You know, we have a laugh, you know, because unfortunately, 1444 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:41,600 every time he’s stood on my 1445 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:45,039 my pit, he’s lost. 1446 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,519 But that's not the case, 1447 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,839 You know, don't get me wrong, Radford’s, he's one of the hardest men I know. 1448 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,200 You know, he's a legend, as far as I'm concerned. 1449 01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:55,960 For bare knuckle, the man can take pain. 1450 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,119 You know, I'm glad that I didn't fight him. 1451 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:04,800 Quite frankly, because, my God, if he's like that, when he's his age, 1452 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,199 God knows what he was like when when he was a young man. 1453 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:08,840 You know what I mean... 1454 01:15:10,440 --> 01:15:11,919 He took McCrory on 1455 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,480 I think, I think it was a bit of an eye opener for him when he lost 1456 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,039 and it was actually, it actually was his eye 1457 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,800 which did him because unfortunately 1458 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,840 where McCrory was wearing wraps 1459 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,680 you know, bust his eye 1460 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:30,880 quite badly 1461 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,960 that's actually when he 1462 01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:37,200 you know, it got called because his eye was that bad 1463 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,079 and he just went. I remember, I felt so sorry for him 1464 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,320 and he just put his arm, hand up 1465 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,839 the guy and fortunately the guys who came down with him, they couldn't believe it. 1466 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,960 You know, the guy had never been beat. 1467 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,240 You know, it was a shocker to us all. 1468 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:57,119 It was a shocker to me. 1469 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,439 I was shocked. I felt, I felt for him. 1470 01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:04,560 But we had a new champion, James McCrory, you know, fair play, you know. 1471 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,920 But then, Radford wanted it again 1472 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,600 And my God, did he perform? 1473 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,960 He didn’t get it, but thats life, but he's still the legend and he still 1474 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,239 and this is how legends are made you know. 1475 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,040 you don't have to win to be a legend yet 1476 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,680 sometimes it's the, the guy that loses 1477 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,480 maybe put a bit more heart in, you know 1478 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,520 I mean, he 1479 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:49,640 S*** 1480 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,120 The second fight he had with McCrory 1481 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,760 Never seen a fight like it, never seen a fight like it. 1482 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,560 Wow. What a fight. 1483 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,200 If only I had a time machine. 1484 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,119 Yeah, I know. 1485 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,239 I know it were hard for you 1486 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,399 I never, ever wanted you at my fights. 1487 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,520 But you said it were harder being at home 1488 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,559 because you know, your thinking as he fought yet as he 1489 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,360 going in, is he being hurt and things like that, but, 1490 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:34,880 when you came 1491 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,000 I just said, well you can come in 1492 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,160 I think, was it the last 3 fights you've been to? 1493 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:42,440 Yeah 1494 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,199 but you just didn’t want to see 1495 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,479 I didn't want to see you in there. 1496 01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:48,159 I didn't want you to know you're in there. 1497 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,440 And I said you keep out it way, but, 1498 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,440 How were it for you, what did you 1499 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,320 I preferred to be there. 1500 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,120 I think it was really hard to sit at home just waiting for a phone call. 1501 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,479 And if nobody rung. 1502 01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:02,759 Oh, is it because you've been hurt or? 1503 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,680 Yeah, I found that very difficult. 1504 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:12,160 I know the extreme that he’d go to, he will never give up in a fight. 1505 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,240 And he's just a true warrior. 1506 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,280 Me and Dave have been together ten years 1507 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,320 this year. 1508 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:39,560 I think a lot of people don't realise what a lovely kind man he is. 1509 01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:42,719 But also I think 1510 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,720 people are pretty easy to judge 1511 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,440 when you hear, Oh, you’re with a bare knuckler 1512 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,720 and this and think oh you know, what sort of guy is he? 1513 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:59,080 But he's the most gentle, loving man I've ever met. 1514 01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:03,039 and it's took me a long time to find a good man. 1515 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,880 and he certainly is one. 1516 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,240 This were back end of my career my last gym should I say. 1517 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,280 Up here, in top of the Alpha. 1518 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,399 Brilliant set up, I had 1519 01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,759 full boxing ring in there, full size 1520 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:32,560 bags were there 1521 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,039 and we ended up running a little amateur boxing club 1522 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,440 from here, and there were a few lads in village that had a few fights. 1523 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,480 which were good, but I did a 1524 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,759 hell of a lot of training for my bare knuckle fights up here 1525 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,000 with Craig Smith. 1526 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,840 You know, my sparring with him, do you know what I mean so, 1527 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,360 another place were I’ve shed a lot of blood up here as well. But 1528 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,920 the best thing, best thing what ever happened for me, 1529 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:55,840 was 1530 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,800 I’ve had a few good people at this pub, do you know what I mean, I’ve had 1531 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,440 Roy Jones Junior 1532 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,920 Smokin’ Joe Frazier, I mean that’s unbelievable 1533 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,879 One of my main men to come here was 1534 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,720 Roberto Duran, he came here to open the gym for me, do you know what I mean 1535 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,640 big Tim Witherspoon’s been in here 1536 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:13,999 I’ve done a lot with Tim Witherspoon 1537 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,480 It were nice, It were my dad’s birthday the other week 1538 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,839 and Tim sent him a text message, happy birthday, Terry. 1539 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,880 So that was, my dad was 1540 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,040 really chuffed with that like, do you know what I mean. 1541 01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:59,640 Craig, how many times 1542 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,360 We’ve been up here and had a decent session, you know 1543 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:05,880 How many times have you busted my nose up here? 1544 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,679 Well it's, it weren't 1545 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,440 That was the problem with it, we did that many rounds and if your nose weren’t bust 1546 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:13,679 You weren’t happy was you. 1547 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:14,919 I know that, yeah 1548 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,879 I had to break your nose or bust your nose or 1549 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,000 knock your tooth out, otherwise you weren’t happy were you? 1550 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,080 You don’t ever, have to pay for that either. 1551 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:21,840 How much was it? 1552 01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,160 I’m sure it was £1200 1553 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:26,919 I told ya! 1554 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,560 I remember it, that when 1555 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,759 you picked me up and you says 1556 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,960 you know, I’ll meet you at 10:00am, picked me up 1557 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:35,240 You picked me up. 1558 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,680 I just had tooth fitted day before. 1559 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,240 Anyway, goes down to the top of King’s head. 1560 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,520 and I said, erm, 1561 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,599 Oh, jeez, I forgot my shield. 1562 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,079 I think I got one glove on, I says I forgot gumshield 1563 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:53,440 He went, it's alright, we'll take it easy, we'll take it easy, I bet it wasn’t 60 seconds 1564 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,879 His tooth was knocked out! 1565 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:56,359 Tooth out! 1566 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:56,840 It was! 1567 01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:58,599 It was fantastic as well for me 1568 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,799 It was an honor for me to be in there with you mate 1569 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,879 because I looked up to you, you were my hero 1570 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,880 I followed you all the way through from being a baby and 1571 01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:08,800 And it was just nice for me to, learn. 1572 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,999 And I did, I had to learn or 1573 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,639 Otherwise it was hard work that. 1574 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,399 Yeah but we come on together. 1575 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,960 As I said, we did the sparring and that and then it got to the stage where 1576 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,039 we could really have a good go each other. 1577 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,040 Yeah, after you’d let me hit you for 3 years. 1578 01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:26,080 But I said, the thing is, 1579 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:27,640 after so long 1580 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,319 Id give you four or five rounds, then I’d say right, 1581 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:32,599 You know, let's, let's go up a bit. 1582 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,600 But we stepped it up and when we stepped it up then, we, you know, it was bang on. 1583 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,840 And that's, how I've learned, and that’s how you’ve learned. 1584 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,319 getting ready for fights and things like the bare knuckle, 1585 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:44,759 you know, the bare knuckle fights, 1586 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,760 I couldn’t have done it without you because just a phone call, you were there for a spar. 1587 01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,999 And that's when I needed that sparring 1588 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,960 and you know, I’d fight at short notice and 1589 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,280 Yeah! That 2 weeks notice 1590 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:58,999 2 weeks notice! 1591 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,119 then little did you know 1592 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,560 as time went down I got the bug and all, so I got it as well. 1593 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,599 You give me the bug, the disease. 1594 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,159 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1595 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:09,039 It were good wasn’t it 1596 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:10,560 Yeah, but we, erm, 1597 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,920 Like I said, said we 1598 01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:14,640 nobody would know 1599 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,120 like when we used to come up here, door would be locked because nobody would 1600 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:19,479 nobody would come in 1601 01:23:19,480 --> 01:23:22,919 we would walk out of here absolutely smothered in blood and things like that. 1602 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:27,040 And people think what's going off here, they did not know and it was just 1603 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,039 you’re hungry for the medicine. 1604 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:30,639 You know what I mean, and thats how it is 1605 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,840 But we've had some good things and we've been we've been to, 1606 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,280 you know, some good fights and watched good fights and you’ve seen me fight 1607 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,599 And you ended up then being my corner man 1608 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:41,640 Oh, dear. 1609 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,760 And then, which were good. 1610 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,639 The only thing I regret or were every time I got back to the corner 1611 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,919 you’d smoother me with water 1612 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,359 you need water, you need water, it’s good for your brain get some water 1613 01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:53,999 You didn’t even want to drink water did you? 1614 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:54,399 I know 1615 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,040 I never ever wanted to drink water, no. 1616 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,079 Absolute legend this man. 1617 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,839 Fought Roberto Duran back in the day. 1618 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,919 But I’ve got to say, what a lovely, lovely bloke. 1619 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,559 real gentleman. 1620 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,680 The man himself there, James McCrory. 1621 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,160 James carrying his belts in there. 1622 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,079 Two guys who are now close, a hardened handshake, the hug. 1623 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,440 Two good guys there. 1624 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,480 Yeah when I fought James McCrory 1625 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,560 I break this here, as well as this 1626 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,079 but you already know at the time anyway 1627 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:31,719 All I’m hearing is you shouting uppercut 1628 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,440 because that was the only thing I could catch him with bang bang, with left hook. 1629 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,120 and it was working 1630 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,839 But everytime I was bringing that uppercut I was thinking 1631 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,440 Arghhh, I’m thinking... 1632 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,279 don’t through an uppercut, don’t through an uppercut. 1633 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:44,960 and all I could hear was you shouting 1634 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,640 Uppercut, left hook, uppercut! 1635 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:48,840 But it’s so natural because 1636 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,760 It’s natural for you to shout, you knew what I needed to do 1637 01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:54,880 and what I needed to do, but 1638 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:56,319 Your hand was broke 1639 01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,319 But you forget about them things. 1640 01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,480 Oh, suffering Jesus bang, bang. 1641 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,639 I kept thinking, don’t throw it again. 1642 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,639 and you’re shouting, and George is shouting 1643 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:05,159 you know, uppercut 1644 01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,639 Why did you throw the uppercut?! 1645 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,439 And then we gets back to the corner 1646 01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:10,479 and then I'm talking away 1647 01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:13,200 and you’re sorting me out with the cuts or whatever and I’m 1648 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:14,919 not, not 1649 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,360 saying anything about my hand but you can see I look down at my hand and shake my hand 1650 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,520 halfway through the fight, but 1651 01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:23,639 It’d gone and finished up I had to 1652 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:24,439 put my hand up 1653 01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:25,479 you know, I’d just can’t 1654 01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:26,600 That was a war that... 1655 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,200 We’ve had many a good time up here do you know what I mean. 1656 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,600 It made me a man. You made me a man. 1657 01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:59,919 But you must have had it in you Craig. 1658 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:01,719 You must have had it in you. 1659 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,639 It’s same as myself, I’ve never 1660 01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,639 never been into fight game when I was younger and everything but 1661 01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,839 there’s something in a man to be able to do what I've done you know what I mean? 1662 01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,479 same with yourself, we’ve 1663 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,079 did gruesome sessions, do you know what I mean, we’ve had. 1664 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,600 They were bad, they were heavy sessions. 1665 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,399 and there were a lot of blood spilt. 1666 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,720 and there was big, big respect , big friends. 1667 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,439 And you when you look up to somebody like I looked up to you, 1668 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:27,119 It was a privilege for me to get in there with you. 1669 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,319 Yeah, that’s magic that. 1670 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,959 And share it mate, honest it was like my birthday! 1671 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:31,920 Yeah, yeah. 1672 01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:35,879 You had time for me to start with. 1673 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,039 Yeah, because you was helping me. 1674 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:38,799 Yeah, but I know, 1675 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,639 But then, it got to the stage where you got a bit of a fix! 1676 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,239 That's what he were planning on all along, just getting his fix. 1677 01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,639 As usual getting hit, that’s all he’d like to do. 1678 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,960 He’s not bothered about hitting anybody, he doesn’t want to hurt anybody. 1679 01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,120 He just likes getting hit! 1680 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,760 Hungry for the medicine. 1681 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,160 Roughly how many fights have you been to Dave I mean, bloody hell, you’ve been to 1682 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,279 I’ve had 163 fights 1683 01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:19,919 So you must have been to hell of a lot because 1684 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,600 you started with me and 1685 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,319 You know, a long time back, how many fights have you been to? 1686 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:29,079 I’ll tell you what right, I was averaging a few years ago, we was at 100 to 1687 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,719 to 120 fights a season. 1688 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:32,119 Jeez. 1689 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:32,480 Like 1690 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:33,879 and how many fights have 1691 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,600 I've been to yours? I've been to every fight you've ever had. 1692 01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:37,520 Yeah. 1693 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,799 You know, I mean, so it's a hell of a lot of fights, ain't it? 1694 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:41,479 That's the thing. 1695 01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:43,520 and it's like anything else, 1696 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,400 It's not that fight that does the damage so much 1697 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,480 its the 163 fights you've had previous. 1698 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,319 It all, fights 1699 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,479 When you're fighting year in, year out, it catches up doesn’t it. 1700 01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:57,079 It does yeah. I’m you know, damaged me 1701 01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:01,480 I'm damaged in them ways my memories, memories terrible. 1702 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,080 But nar, 163 fights 1703 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,959 But you've got to account for as well all the sparring that I’ve done for them. 1704 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:08,760 Oh, yeah. 1705 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,640 Maybe 8 or 9 rounds a night sparring. 1706 01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:12,479 Yeah. 1707 01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:14,959 And that's without your professional fights ain’t it. 1708 01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,280 and that’s hell of a lot. 1709 01:28:16,440 --> 01:28:18,400 Like I say, It just all adds up 1710 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,479 and it's a lot of punishment ain’t it. 1711 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:20,999 Oh, definitely. 1712 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,000 a lot of punishment you take over the years. 1713 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:24,280 and it’s like I've always said 1714 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,159 how good a man was five years ago can be totally different 1715 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,359 five years later, it's like a running dog. 1716 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,520 It can be fantastic. The bee's knees. 1717 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,879 Five years later, it's a different thing altogether. 1718 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,679 It's the same with a fighting man, ain’t it. 1719 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,879 You've only got that set time and that's it, aint it. 1720 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,800 You can stay too long in the fight game. 1721 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,879 It’s same myself now 1722 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,000 I always say, I do a little bit of training 1723 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,400 what I do, but to me I've always said which is true, I've got a good 10 minutes in me 1724 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:54,760 But you've always to have that, 1725 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,639 always to have that, bit of training with you because 1726 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,999 because if not my, my name now with this fighting 1727 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,960 everybody wants to have a little go do you know what I mean and 1728 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,119 You've done it there's nothing to prove whatsoever. 1729 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:10,319 I told you this years ago and if you remember I kept telling you to retire. 1730 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,999 didn't I, because you've fought some epic battles 1731 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,800 proper hectic battles. 1732 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,119 And out of all the fights I've seen and I've seen 1733 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,880 some serious hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of fights. 1734 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:22,599 You got to think 1735 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,600 I went to my first bare knuckle fight when I was 11 years old. 1736 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,720 Right. 1737 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:31,800 And the most epic battle that stands out without a shadow of a doubt 1738 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,640 when you and James Gypsy Boy McCrory fought at the F club. 1739 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,879 That was one hell of a fight. 1740 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,040 And I'm in company of a lot of fighting men. 1741 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,719 And a lot of men say that was one hell of an epic battle. 1742 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,439 When you pay for watching a fight, 1743 01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:49,559 That's a fight you want to watch, do you know what I mean? 1744 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,319 Let's face it, it's 20 years now gone by. 1745 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,799 We've been the closest of friends now 20 years, right? 1746 01:29:55,800 --> 01:30:00,199 September 2005, when I bought my man to fight you 1747 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:00,959 Yeah, yeah. 1748 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,839 And my man had beat so many men at the time. 1749 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,039 Big lump of a man as well. 1750 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,280 A big lump of a man. 1751 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,999 And like I say with it, you nearly killed my man at the end. 1752 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:10,759 Yeah, yeah. 1753 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,880 He told me, he pulled up in the van 1754 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:14,759 he said to me, ‘is he here Plattsy?’ 1755 01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:16,039 I said, ‘he's here.’ 1756 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,599 He said, Dave, I'm going to kill him. 1757 01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,920 I’m gonna kill the b****** he says. Right, that was my man. 1758 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,640 And he didn't care whether he killed you, took your life or what my man. 1759 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,440 And then, like I say with it, 1760 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:27,719 you fought it out 1761 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,160 and you done my man didn’t you. 1762 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,360 You have lived a proper sporting life. 1763 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,560 You are the Napoleon of Southern sports 1764 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,999 and it's been an honor to be a good friend to you. 1765 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:41,599 Good man Dave. 1766 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:42,599 See you again my lad. 1767 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:43,359 Good luck, bye. 1768 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:44,999 At the next sporting event. 1769 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:45,720 Good man. 1770 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,520 Yeah, I've retired now, erm, ish... 1771 01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:07,040 I’ve moved from 1772 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,599 my job which was up north and moved from the job down to 1773 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,040 Kent, so I’m working in Kent for a long time now. 1774 01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:17,040 So what I've done, I've got this place in Aylesbury 1775 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,200 and it's a lovely place, lovely pad. 1776 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:25,160 Yeah I miss, I miss the fighting game, I mean 1777 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,879 but, I’ll be honest with you, I don’t go to any shows. 1778 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,640 because I’ll still be jumping in, do you know what I mean, but, 1779 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,000 I do miss it, hell of a lot. 1780 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,279 But mainly now I’m concentrating on my work, 1781 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,359 which I've always done. I keep saying I’ve retired. 1782 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:56,439 There’s one or two people I’d like to fight who can give me that good fight. 1783 01:31:56,440 --> 01:31:58,720 But it's having that time off work. 1784 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,279 It's not the money, you know, for the fighting and things. 1785 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,760 But I just, I do miss it. 1786 01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:06,960 I do miss it. 1787 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:12,720 The new middleweight, UK champion, Dave Radford! 1788 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,880 Someone shouted me the other day, asking me to fight. 1789 01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:20,879 And the money what they offered me. 1790 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,800 I get in a month anyway at work. 1791 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,199 And so that doesn’t interests me. 1792 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:26,759 And I don't fight for money. 1793 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:30,239 I fight for the enjoyment, It sounds funny saying enjoyment. 1794 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,800 I like to have a good old scrap 1795 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,920 So that people will talk about that 1796 01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,639 If I knock him out first round 1797 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:39,479 It’s over and done with 1798 01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:40,439 Nobody really talks about it. 1799 01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:44,280 But if you have a brutal, you know, good old scrap, 1800 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,559 then it's talked about for a long time people will say, the second fight with 1801 01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,719 James McCrory, brilliant fight. 1802 01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,119 If I could fight again, I want the exactly the same fight as that 1803 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:54,560 to happen. 1804 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,400 and that's what makes me want to fight again still because 1805 01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:01,239 I think there’s another couple of fights left in me. 1806 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,280 But it's having that time off work and things 1807 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,159 I’m happy in a way with work 1808 01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,760 but I’m like that with the fighting game. 1809 01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,880 My plans now for future is, 1810 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,600 you know, I've always been 100% with work so I'm going to be happy with work 1811 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:44,639 I’ve a lot 1812 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,600 hell of a lot to do with this place down here, we’ve 1813 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,080 we've done inside. 1814 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:52,000 And now there’s hell of a lot of work to do on the outside, on the land. 1815 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,239 I've got some road chippings over there. 1816 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:56,959 There's, there's only 60 tonnes. 1817 01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,039 So I won't take me long with the wheelbarrow. 1818 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,280 Trouble is that might get you fit and you might want to come out of retirement. 1819 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:03,919 But then we've 1820 01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,959 got erm, within next couple of years we are planning a wedding aren’t we 1821 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,119 Yeah, yeah. 1822 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,199 We just got get a date ready haven’t we. 1823 01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:10,679 A date. 1824 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,480 and you've asked George already to be your best man. 1825 01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,040 George to be my best man, the screaming skull. 1826 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,960 We did say we were just gonna have a quiet wedding, but, 1827 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,760 you can’t have a quiet wedding when you have a family like mine. 1828 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:39,320 I'm now going to ask you to think back to the very start of this biography, 1829 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,280 to the question that was posed, 1830 01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:46,360 that being, who holds the power? 1831 01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,400 Is it the beast or is it the jailer? 1832 01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:53,600 However, 1833 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,200 whoever holds the power to hold the key 1834 01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:59,960 that will grant the beast freedom 1835 01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:04,040 allowing it to rise, to manifest 1836 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,920 for one of two reasons... 1837 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,800 either in the defense of others, 1838 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,640 or to meet a mutual challenge. 1839 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:17,840 But be assured, 1840 01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,800 this does not signal the final act 1841 01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,679 or the last page turned. 1842 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,080 There will be other chapters to come. 1843 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:35,160 As with most things in life, there is often a caveat, 1844 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:40,560 a disclaimer, and Dave Radford holds one himself. 1845 01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:47,400 One that is best said using his very own words. 1846 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,800 Those words being. 1847 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,879 Please don't take my kindness for a sign 1848 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:55,120 of weakness