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- Shit, if I was at home,
and I saw this,

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I'd be like,
who the fuck is Jim Downey?

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- Why would we do
a documentary on a writer?

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- I think it's great
that Lorne has found

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another way to make money,
uh, by doing films

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about staff members.

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- God, it's so hard
to distill the Downer.

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- Maybe they won't know
his face,

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but everybody knows his work.

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- Governor Bush?

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- Strategery.

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[laughter]

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- Mmm, Colon Blow.

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Sounds delicious.

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- Have you ever made love
on one of the five

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existing copies
of the Magna Carta?

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- Remember when
you were with the Beatles?

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[laughter, applause]

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- Sure, sure.

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- That was awesome.

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[laughter]

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- Jim's good work
is just as funny now

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as it was when he did it,

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whether it was in 1976, 1996.

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- Please, Larry!

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- And look at how much comedy
has changed since

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Jim Downey started
on "Saturday Night Live."

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[laughter]

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- It's something
I'm not gonna do.

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Not gonna do it.

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- [whispering]
You're a [bleep] dog.

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[laughter]

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- There is nobody
who knows Downey that

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doesn't put him as number one.

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- He was one of the reasons
I wanted to start writing.

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- There's nobody else
like this.

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- Me, Captain.
- No, no.

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- Punish me.

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- Hi, I'm Norm Macdonald,

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and this is the fake news.

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- [operatic singing]

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- His language lives here,
and without that language,

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so much of this place wouldn't
have been established.

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- How'd that someone get
attacked by a rabbit?

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- That's what we do.

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[cheers and applause]

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- More than anyone, at least
for that first 20 years,

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he became
the voice of the show.

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I would think
I probably was in the '70s,

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but I more and more
began to realize

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if something important
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that I'd go to Jim on it.

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- One way you could
start this, I thought,

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is you hear a voice.

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There's nothing
the general public hates more

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than looking at
or listening to a writer talk.

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This is my first office that
I shared with Bill Murray.

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- Jim Downey and I,
we went to work the same week

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at "Saturday Night Live."

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- This was his first
encounter with, you know,

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professional show business.

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And because Bill Murray was
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I put them together
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And it was--it was not
a natural fit at the beginning.

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- Like some sort of a bad
roommate movie where

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we'd come in and go,
like, oh, you.

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There you are, you know.

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And he'd be off, like,
writing sketches,

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and I'd be like, oh, hi, Jim.

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[laughter]

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Hi, Bill.

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- But it turned into
something wonderful.

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- What is your test?

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- Do you see that boulder
over there?

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I want you to lift it.

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- That boulder is too large.

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I could lift a smaller one.

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- Even though we were slow

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to get to know each other,

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Jim Downey's the one
that I'd say that

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I'm friends with, of all
the people that I work with.

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- I mean, we would write
all night.

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You know, crash on the couch.

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Billy brought in, like,
a little hibachi grill.

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He was trying to grill
a little steak or something,

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and set off the sprinkler.

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[alarm ringing]

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And so that put a quick stop

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to, you know,
our little Benihana.

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[indistinct chatter]

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At "Saturday Night Live,"

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you come up with an idea,

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and it's gonna be on
television five days later.

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I mean, it's crazy.

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- 10 seconds!

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- There's a lot of rewriting
between dress and air.

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It kicks you into that kind
of animal adrenaline state

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where you either get
something remarkable,

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or you fail spectacularly.

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You don't get that
anywhere else.

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[cheers and applause]

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For those of you sitting
through this just in hopes

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of learning something about

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how you write
a really good sketch,

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this is a formula.

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And mind you, you're not
to copy this formula.

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This is my formula.

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- Jim invented
a type of American comedy

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of, like, hyper-nuance.

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- I have a fondness
for the comedy of someone

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very painstakingly, laboriously
explaining something

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that doesn't even need
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and also getting it wrong.

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- I needed to take the bus
but all I had was a $5 bill.

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I went to First CityWide,
and they were able to give me

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four singles and four quarters.

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[laughter]

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- "Change Bank" was
a perfect example,

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at length discussing something
that doesn't need explaining.

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- We will work
with the customer

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to give that customer
the change

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that he or she needs.

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If you come to us
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we can give you two tens.

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We can give you four fives.

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We can give you
a ten and two fives.

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We will work with you.

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- "Change Bank" is
so specific.

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There was an idea,
there was the attitude,

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there was performance
and then the absurdity

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of how far it was taken.

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- We are not gonna give you
change that you don't want.

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If you come to us
with a $100 bill,

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we're not gonna give you
2,000 nickels.

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- A slender premise like that
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uh, execution--

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- Jim gives you no indication

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that anything funny is
happening here.

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- Like, that was an interesting
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is that you had to deliver it
so straight and so on the line.

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And not just straight, but in
his rhythm that he wrote it in.

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And it would work perfectly.

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- Yeah, it's true.

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- Thank you.

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At Global Century,
we like to be completely

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upfront with our clients.

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That's why in our prospectus
we clearly state

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that our investment advice

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is often self-interested
or deceitful

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and may work
to a client's disadvantage.

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We think you deserve
to know that.

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- Jim is deadly serious when
he's presenting you his comedy,

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and the people in his comedy
are deadly serious.

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- It's like, if you weren't
watching closely,

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you wouldn't know
that comedy was on the TV.

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- Like a lot of us here,
I followed your broker's advice

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and over the last few years,

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I've lost 80%
of my life savings.

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- That does not surprise me
at all.

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- I'd just like to say
that even though I think

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you're an evil person,
and even though I came here

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intending to kill you,

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I've been really impressed
with your honesty.

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[laughter, applause]

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- Writing comedy is either
easy or it's impossible.

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Any writer will tell you
most of their good ideas come

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when they're doing something
else and they're not trying

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to come up with an idea.

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We're just going through
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experiencing things,
when something hits us.

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The really good stuff
just flows.

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You can barely write
fast enough.

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That's an awful lot better
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staring at a blank legal pad.

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- Hi, I'm Dale Sturtevant.

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I've been raising dogs
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and nothing has
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or more sheer frustration

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than training a puppy.

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With a very young pup,

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correcting problem behavior

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can be especially maddening.

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And like you, I've probably
tried all the tricks--

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screaming myself hoarse,
starving them,

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locking them in a closet
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or just beating them
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But after my third arrest
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anger management counseling,
I learned to channel

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my rage into an effective,
nonviolent puppy training tool.

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It's called "Dissing Your Dog."

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- That just began
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and just kind of cranking up
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to silly dimensions.

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- Oh, right, Margaret,
you wanted prime rib.

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Here's the deal,

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the Palm wasn't taking
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and I didn't want to try
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they have a new chef,

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so for now, let's just go
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OK, I understand it's not your
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but keep in mind...

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[whispering]
You're a [bleep] dog.

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- It's a perfectly-written
piece for Will.

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It's an attitude thing
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- When you're writing
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there's a million
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could you turn out that light?

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It's a little bright.

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There aren't a million
different ways to tell a joke.

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Most of what makes us laugh
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that just--you've never
heard it put that way before.

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I'm always looking for

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the perfect version
of that joke.

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- It's not too late.

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You could be peppers.

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- Oh, this is my slave.

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His name is Phil.

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[laughter]

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- I was in Paris.
Went to the Louvre.

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I tell ya, I don't know
what the big deal is.

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Just one out-of-focus sculpture
after another.

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- No matter how hard
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no matter how hard you clean,

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you just can't rid
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- It was this two-part thing
of nonexistent problem,

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ineffective solution.

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- A problem that isn't
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It sheds light on the way
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about it are the real problem.

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[laughs]

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- Sleepytime Rat Control.

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It's not a poison.
It's not a trap.

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It's a powerful sedative
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deep sleep.

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- I wouldn't say rats are
a nonexistent problem.

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But sewer rats in your home
is a nonexistent problem.

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- So why live with this...

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[boinging]

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- I was under the bed,
like, punching the mattress,

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and then we slowed it down
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some boing, boing,
boing, boing, boing

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kind of sound effects.

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- When you can have this?

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[sawing, lullaby playing]

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- [quietly]
That's more like it.

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- The joy is just
watching everybody

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in that ad is so committed to,

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we've got the solution
to the problem.

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And...[laughs]
The rats are surrounding

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the bed sleeping peacefully,

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but no one ever
removes the rats.

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- You'll sleep better
knowing they're sleeping.

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- A lot of "SNL" is just
wasting the audience's time

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with a nonexistent problem
and an ineffective solution

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that made someone like Jim
laugh really hard.

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- Mr. President, there is
one other item on the agenda.

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It seems we're scheduled
to hear a presentation

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from that frontiersman.

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What's his name again?

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[banging]

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- The name is Johnny.

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Johnny Canal.

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- * Johnny Canal *

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- John Candy had
a sensibility that was

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kind of close to Downey's.

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They loved these
historical figures

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with really stupid ideas.

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- What I am proposing,
gentlemen,

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is a system of canals
knitting together every corner

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of this great land of ours.

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- "Johnny Canal"
with John Malkovich is

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number one in my Downey book.

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And it has the same kind
of pace that I really liked,

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and that I was not always
brave enough to pursue.

292
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- Excuse me, Mr. Canal.

293
00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:09,312
Is it your proposal
that every town,

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even the tiniest villages,
have literally hundreds

295
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of canals running
in and out of them?

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- Or more!

297
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- My favorite part
is the president

298
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taking time to explain
why it's a bad idea.

299
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- Well, your plan is
certainly an intriguing one,

300
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but there are several points
that you haven't touched on.

301
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For example, the proposed
cost of this project,

302
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how long it would take
to build,

303
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who would maintain it
once it was built,

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would these be toll canals
or free,

305
00:12:37,215 --> 00:12:39,843
how would the rights to the
land be obtained, by--

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- And then they do
a push-in on Malkovich

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as the president explains,

308
00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,849
and it's just pushing in
on Malkovich's face,

309
00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:47,684
and you're reading
that he hasn't thought

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through any of the logistics.

311
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That is Downey's humor.

312
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- I've never been great

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at writing
plotty kind of things.

314
00:13:00,321 --> 00:13:02,073
I like to establish
the premise

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as quickly as you can,

316
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then we hope it's gonna be
joke, joke, joke,

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00:13:06,369 --> 00:13:07,829
joke, joke, joke,
joke, joke, joke.

318
00:13:07,871 --> 00:13:11,374
It's like microwave popcorn,
where at first,

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it's a flurry of...
[imitates popping]

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But then, pop.

321
00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,548
I wanted to generate jokes
that no one

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had ever seen before
because they came

323
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out of a unique premise.

324
00:13:23,261 --> 00:13:27,140
You're trying to reach
a critical mass of--of laughs.

325
00:13:27,223 --> 00:13:29,142
- Donde es la biblioteca?

326
00:13:29,184 --> 00:13:32,479
- It's eight jokes
around a theme.

327
00:13:32,562 --> 00:13:35,148
Basically, the only purpose
of the structure and the story

328
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is to get to those jokes.

329
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[ethereal music]

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* *

331
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[clicking]

332
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[gentle music]

333
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- I'm so happy
you're doing this, Jim.

334
00:13:48,453 --> 00:13:51,373
It's so exciting!

335
00:13:51,456 --> 00:13:56,044
I want to know more
about young Jim.

336
00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:59,547
Were you quiet, or were you
trying to make people laugh?

337
00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:02,759
- When I was very little,
I understand I was very sweet.

338
00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:04,678
When I was in school,
I was more of, like,

339
00:14:04,719 --> 00:14:08,264
a class wit
than I was a class clown.

340
00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:10,767
My dad loved practical jokes.

341
00:14:10,809 --> 00:14:13,561
I remember he liked
to call his friends and go,

342
00:14:13,645 --> 00:14:15,897
Jim, I'm gonna
hand you the phone

343
00:14:15,939 --> 00:14:18,942
and you say you're
with the health department.

344
00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:20,318
I'd go, what?
What do I have to--what?

345
00:14:20,443 --> 00:14:22,153
- [laughs]

346
00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:24,447
- When I was a junior in high
school, I was in Chicago,

347
00:14:24,489 --> 00:14:28,326
and I saw the "Harvard Lampoon
Life Magazine" parody.

348
00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:29,911
I thought it was
the funniest thing.

349
00:14:29,994 --> 00:14:33,456
It was the first thing
that really spoke to me.

350
00:14:33,498 --> 00:14:36,418
That's what made me want
to particularly go to Harvard.

351
00:14:36,459 --> 00:14:38,294
- I went to Harvard...
[clears throat]

352
00:14:38,420 --> 00:14:41,381
High School,
so I'm almost as smart.

353
00:14:41,423 --> 00:14:44,092
- This would be
one of our issues

354
00:14:44,175 --> 00:14:46,052
that was done
when I was president.

355
00:14:46,094 --> 00:14:48,763
- The "Lampoon" is the oldest

356
00:14:48,805 --> 00:14:51,433
comedy magazine
in the United States.

357
00:14:51,474 --> 00:14:54,477
I mean, most college
humor magazines meet

358
00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:55,937
in a basement somewhere.

359
00:14:55,979 --> 00:14:58,982
The "Lampoon" is this
crazy Flemish castle

360
00:14:59,107 --> 00:15:01,484
that's right near
Harvard Square.

361
00:15:01,526 --> 00:15:03,319
[rock music]

362
00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:09,159
- In 1972, we did a parody
of "Cosmopolitan Magazine."

363
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,121
- That's the famous pinup
of Henry Kissinger.

364
00:15:13,163 --> 00:15:16,833
Burt Reynolds had posed
on a rug like that.

365
00:15:16,875 --> 00:15:20,462
- It would just infuriate
most people to go,

366
00:15:20,503 --> 00:15:22,297
this is what these
Harvard assholes are

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00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:24,507
doing with their education.

368
00:15:24,549 --> 00:15:27,844
- But you can make stuff
that influences the culture.

369
00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:29,804
- Earlier this month,
Harvard University's

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00:15:29,846 --> 00:15:32,140
humor magazine,
the "Harvard Lampoon,"

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00:15:32,223 --> 00:15:34,184
sent movie star John Wayne
a letter.

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[jazzy music]

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- We challenged John Wayne

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00:15:37,562 --> 00:15:40,648
to come to Cambridge,
Massachusetts.

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00:15:40,690 --> 00:15:43,401
At this point, he was
extremely unpopular

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on the Harvard campus.

377
00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:47,489
It was like
a three-day phenomenon.

378
00:15:47,614 --> 00:15:48,907
[static droning]

379
00:15:48,990 --> 00:15:50,492
- "Duke," John Wayne,
was mobbed

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00:15:50,533 --> 00:15:52,285
in Cambridge,
Massachusetts, today.

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00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:54,621
Police and soldiers
had to convoy him

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into a Harvard Square theater
to face a roasting.

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00:15:58,667 --> 00:16:00,627
[cheers and applause]

384
00:16:00,710 --> 00:16:03,838
- We had that place,
absolutely every seat, filled.

385
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,091
- Hi!

386
00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:07,300
- I was one of the speakers.

387
00:16:09,094 --> 00:16:12,639
I have known John Wayne
a very long time.

388
00:16:12,722 --> 00:16:14,140
[laughter]

389
00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:15,350
And...

390
00:16:19,396 --> 00:16:22,357
[laughter]

391
00:16:24,693 --> 00:16:29,280
That was maybe the first
forays into public speaking

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00:16:29,364 --> 00:16:31,282
where I was trying
to make people laugh.

393
00:16:31,366 --> 00:16:32,867
Biggest thing
I've ever been involved with.

394
00:16:32,909 --> 00:16:35,537
We were on the front page
of every newspaper

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00:16:35,704 --> 00:16:36,788
on planet Earth.

396
00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:42,919
I concentrated in
Russian studies at Harvard,

397
00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:44,879
but I spent most of my time
at the "Lampoon,"

398
00:16:44,921 --> 00:16:48,216
so I pretty much majored
in the "Harvard Lampoon."

399
00:16:48,258 --> 00:16:51,302
By the time senior year
rolled around,

400
00:16:51,386 --> 00:16:53,013
I just sort of woke up
and realized

401
00:16:53,096 --> 00:16:55,390
I had not given any thought
to what I was gonna do

402
00:16:55,473 --> 00:16:57,225
with the rest of my life.

403
00:16:57,267 --> 00:17:00,311
- Live from New York,
it's Saturday night!

404
00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:03,481
[cheers and applause]

405
00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:06,526
- NBC's Saturday night!

406
00:17:06,568 --> 00:17:08,319
- "Saturday Night Live"
started up

407
00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:10,572
at just the right time.

408
00:17:10,655 --> 00:17:15,326
I sometimes think about that,
wow, how my life has unfolded.

409
00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:17,579
Huge element of chance.

410
00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:20,040
When I was hired at
"Saturday Night Live"

411
00:17:20,123 --> 00:17:23,543
I was 24
and the only writer who wore

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00:17:23,626 --> 00:17:25,420
a suit to the group photo.

413
00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:27,547
That quickly changed.

414
00:17:27,589 --> 00:17:30,800
1976 to 1980,
I'm writing, like,

415
00:17:30,884 --> 00:17:32,927
three or four pieces a week.

416
00:17:32,969 --> 00:17:34,012
- Fred Garvin...
- You're constantly...

417
00:17:34,095 --> 00:17:35,305
- Male prostitute.

418
00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:37,015
- Throwing stuff out there.

419
00:17:37,057 --> 00:17:38,433
- [grumbles]
- Come on in!

420
00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:41,519
- You're not operating
out of any playbook.

421
00:17:41,644 --> 00:17:43,813
You don't know
what can't be done.

422
00:17:43,938 --> 00:17:45,690
You go, like, how about this?

423
00:17:45,774 --> 00:17:48,735
- You don't suppose he'll make
me squeal like a pig, do you?

424
00:17:48,818 --> 00:17:51,029
- And then the argument is,
why can't we do that?

425
00:17:51,112 --> 00:17:52,072
- Let me show you.

426
00:17:52,155 --> 00:17:52,947
I play with it all the time.

427
00:17:52,989 --> 00:17:56,034
[laughter]

428
00:17:56,076 --> 00:17:57,827
- And then the grown-ups go,

429
00:17:57,952 --> 00:17:59,829
actually,
I guess you can do that.

430
00:17:59,913 --> 00:18:01,915
- What a marvelous
entertainment, Salisbury.

431
00:18:01,956 --> 00:18:04,000
And these chopped steaks
are delicious,

432
00:18:04,084 --> 00:18:06,419
especially with this
exquisite mushroom sauce.

433
00:18:06,503 --> 00:18:07,587
- Well, thank you.

434
00:18:07,671 --> 00:18:08,713
Coming from you,
Worcestershire,

435
00:18:08,797 --> 00:18:09,631
that certainly is a compliment.

436
00:18:09,673 --> 00:18:11,383
[laughter]

437
00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:14,094
- The Earl of Sandwich.

438
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:16,680
- The Earl of Sandwich.

439
00:18:16,763 --> 00:18:17,639
It's a setup.

440
00:18:17,764 --> 00:18:19,224
- Your Lordship.

441
00:18:19,349 --> 00:18:21,309
- You knew with Jim,
there was a turn coming.

442
00:18:21,393 --> 00:18:23,353
There was some moment
where he was going

443
00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:26,940
to reveal to you that
everything up to this point

444
00:18:27,023 --> 00:18:30,068
had been serving a purpose.

445
00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:33,363
- Lord and Lady Douchebag!

446
00:18:33,405 --> 00:18:36,616
[laughter, applause]

447
00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:39,077
[whistling]

448
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,663
- I think we had been holding
on to Lord and Lady Douchebag

449
00:18:41,746 --> 00:18:43,540
for, like, four years.

450
00:18:43,665 --> 00:18:45,792
- Douchebag, how are you?

451
00:18:45,875 --> 00:18:47,460
[laughter]

452
00:18:47,544 --> 00:18:49,212
- You could tell that
the audience was so thrilled...

453
00:18:49,295 --> 00:18:50,630
- Right.

454
00:18:50,797 --> 00:18:52,173
- That we were doing
that kind of material.

455
00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:54,009
- Tell me, Douchebag,
when are you going to show us

456
00:18:54,092 --> 00:18:55,677
that invention of yours?

457
00:18:55,719 --> 00:18:57,387
- Yes, Douchebag,
just what kind of an invention

458
00:18:57,429 --> 00:18:58,763
are you sitting on?

459
00:18:58,888 --> 00:19:01,599
[laughter]

460
00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:03,810
- It was all the stuff
that we wanted to do,

461
00:19:03,893 --> 00:19:05,729
and we saved it for the end.

462
00:19:05,770 --> 00:19:07,981
[ethereal music]

463
00:19:08,064 --> 00:19:10,275
- There's a saying that
we used to use in the '70s,

464
00:19:10,358 --> 00:19:12,694
that if you want to kill
somebody talented,

465
00:19:12,736 --> 00:19:14,863
let them do
everything they want.

466
00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:16,698
And that was sort of
what was happening.

467
00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:22,579
We were unprepared
for the level of success

468
00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:26,374
and attention that we got,
so, uh, people were

469
00:19:26,458 --> 00:19:27,917
offered all sorts of things.

470
00:19:28,001 --> 00:19:30,003
People had more money
than they'd ever had,

471
00:19:30,086 --> 00:19:32,088
so it just changes things.

472
00:19:32,172 --> 00:19:37,260
And, uh--and that's sort
of the price of success.

473
00:19:37,302 --> 00:19:39,220
The sun got too hot.

474
00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:43,266
I think people
were proud of what

475
00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:46,353
we'd done in the first five,
and...[chuckles]

476
00:19:46,436 --> 00:19:49,105
Uh, we left.

477
00:19:49,230 --> 00:19:56,196
* *

478
00:20:07,874 --> 00:20:09,167
[static droning, clicks]

479
00:20:09,250 --> 00:20:11,670
- From New York,
home of courteous service

480
00:20:11,836 --> 00:20:14,089
and a relaxing atmosphere,

481
00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:16,508
it's "Late Night
with David Letterman."

482
00:20:16,591 --> 00:20:20,470
- That summer,
my mom called me and said,

483
00:20:20,595 --> 00:20:22,931
are you watching this guy
David Letterman's show?

484
00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:24,766
I said, no.

485
00:20:24,849 --> 00:20:26,434
Oh, my God, Jim, it's--
it's the funniest show.

486
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,437
It's, no offense,
so much funnier than

487
00:20:29,604 --> 00:20:31,398
"Saturday Night Live,"
so much funnier.

488
00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:33,441
- What's, uh--what's next
for you two gentlemen?

489
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:35,819
- Oh, we'll be down
in the, uh, Caribbean.

490
00:20:35,985 --> 00:20:37,821
We're gonna be seizing
an Aramco, uh, oil tanker.

491
00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:39,197
- OK.
- I just love it.

492
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,991
I just love the whole
sensibility of it.

493
00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:44,661
I love the silliness
and the braininess of it.

494
00:20:44,786 --> 00:20:46,329
He was himself.

495
00:20:46,454 --> 00:20:48,373
He was standing apart.

496
00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:51,876
- Letterman's show was not
only innovative, but it was--

497
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,628
it was original.

498
00:20:53,795 --> 00:20:56,715
But I think Jim was
a big part of that.

499
00:20:56,798 --> 00:20:59,259
- Fall of '81,
and Dave Letterman

500
00:20:59,342 --> 00:21:01,886
contacted me and said,
hey, we're putting together

501
00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:03,304
a writing staff.

502
00:21:03,346 --> 00:21:04,764
- I thought, this is
gonna be fantastic.

503
00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:07,100
Jim will be here
two or three years.

504
00:21:07,183 --> 00:21:09,269
This will be great
for the show, great for me,

505
00:21:09,436 --> 00:21:12,147
and hopefully great for Jim.

506
00:21:12,188 --> 00:21:15,817
- My day became
basically sitting alone

507
00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:18,445
in an office with Dave
for, like, three hours,

508
00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:21,072
trying to sell him on stuff.

509
00:21:21,156 --> 00:21:24,034
He was a genius at
flicking pencils

510
00:21:24,117 --> 00:21:25,869
into the acoustic tiles.

511
00:21:25,994 --> 00:21:29,205
You'd look up, it was just
bristling with pencils.

512
00:21:29,247 --> 00:21:31,249
And I would go, like,
Dave, what about this?

513
00:21:31,332 --> 00:21:33,251
There's a three-alarm fire
in the studio.

514
00:21:33,335 --> 00:21:36,546
He'd go, uh-uh.

515
00:21:36,588 --> 00:21:38,590
Uh-uh. You know?

516
00:21:38,757 --> 00:21:40,508
- Let me introduce you to our
head writer, Mr. Jim Downey.

517
00:21:40,592 --> 00:21:41,509
Jim, come on in.

518
00:21:41,551 --> 00:21:43,053
[applause]

519
00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:44,471
Frank Zappa.

520
00:21:44,554 --> 00:21:46,222
And you know, of course,
Gerard and Bob.

521
00:21:46,348 --> 00:21:47,724
- Hi, Jim.

522
00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:49,351
- Uh, what do we have on tap
tomorrow night, Jim?

523
00:21:49,517 --> 00:21:51,019
- Uh, we sort of thought
you might throw

524
00:21:51,102 --> 00:21:54,147
one of your blue cards at Paul
and put his eye out.

525
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:55,774
[laughter]

526
00:21:55,857 --> 00:21:58,693
[jazzy music]

527
00:21:58,860 --> 00:22:00,820
* *

528
00:22:00,862 --> 00:22:02,614
- I can remember
in this hallway,

529
00:22:02,781 --> 00:22:03,865
I started talking to Jim,

530
00:22:04,032 --> 00:22:06,201
and he was making me laugh
so hard.

531
00:22:06,326 --> 00:22:08,370
That's when I thought,
oh, my God, I think

532
00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:11,539
this may be
the funniest human I know.

533
00:22:11,706 --> 00:22:13,166
- Sometimes I--
I wear shirts without

534
00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:15,251
really reading what's on them.

535
00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:16,419
[laughter]

536
00:22:16,544 --> 00:22:17,837
- It's crazy.

537
00:22:17,921 --> 00:22:19,589
You know how much time
he must have spent

538
00:22:19,673 --> 00:22:20,840
with David Letterman?

539
00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:23,259
Like, just in a think tank,

540
00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:25,470
combing over politicians,

541
00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:26,888
news of the day.

542
00:22:28,223 --> 00:22:29,849
- Ouch!

543
00:22:29,891 --> 00:22:31,476
- Barry White has
just been bitten

544
00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:33,353
by a northern copperhead.

545
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,938
- I don't want to die, David.

546
00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:37,691
- I think audiences want you
to think of things

547
00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:38,775
that they couldn't think of.

548
00:22:38,942 --> 00:22:41,194
[laughter]

549
00:22:41,277 --> 00:22:44,364
At "Letterman,"
we were conscious of trying

550
00:22:44,447 --> 00:22:46,157
to teach the audience
to appreciate things

551
00:22:46,241 --> 00:22:47,951
they might not have
appreciated before.

552
00:22:48,118 --> 00:22:50,412
- Someone sent this
postcard to us in the mail.

553
00:22:50,453 --> 00:22:51,871
What you have here
is something called

554
00:22:51,996 --> 00:22:53,581
the world's largest vase.

555
00:22:53,623 --> 00:22:54,958
We thought it would be
interesting

556
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,545
if we could find out just
exactly where this vase was.

557
00:22:58,628 --> 00:23:00,505
- I mean, we would do
running jokes that,

558
00:23:00,547 --> 00:23:02,841
the first time, it died.

559
00:23:02,924 --> 00:23:04,843
We said, no, damn it,
this is funny.

560
00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:06,511
I'm sorry, they're wrong.

561
00:23:06,553 --> 00:23:10,015
You didn't laugh the first
time, but here it is again.

562
00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:13,351
- You have
the world's largest vase.

563
00:23:13,518 --> 00:23:15,770
- Uh, that's right.

564
00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:17,439
- Uh, all right.

565
00:23:17,522 --> 00:23:18,690
I'm gonna--I'm gonna ask you

566
00:23:18,773 --> 00:23:20,567
to get a grip
on yourself now, and--

567
00:23:20,650 --> 00:23:22,527
- Deliberately wasting
the audience's time,

568
00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:24,446
I can't think
of that many people

569
00:23:24,487 --> 00:23:27,532
who have had
the vision to follow through

570
00:23:27,574 --> 00:23:29,784
with that besides Jim.

571
00:23:29,868 --> 00:23:33,413
- Well, here--here it is,
the world's largest vase.

572
00:23:33,496 --> 00:23:35,999
- It generated, like,
five or six different pieces

573
00:23:36,124 --> 00:23:38,209
that we did on the show.

574
00:23:38,293 --> 00:23:40,128
There was, like,
a black tie event.

575
00:23:40,170 --> 00:23:41,463
And then we had
the next night where

576
00:23:41,504 --> 00:23:43,506
it was the changing
of the guard.

577
00:23:43,673 --> 00:23:47,594
- We are adding
a 35.5-inch radio transmitting

578
00:23:47,677 --> 00:23:50,722
tower to the vase.

579
00:23:50,805 --> 00:23:52,932
Oh, my God,
this is television.

580
00:23:52,974 --> 00:23:55,185
This is on American television.

581
00:23:55,226 --> 00:23:57,145
- I don't even know
if you'd call them sketches.

582
00:23:57,228 --> 00:23:59,773
I don't know what--what you'd
call what we did on that show.

583
00:23:59,856 --> 00:24:01,691
- [laughs]

584
00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:03,860
Oh, my God.

585
00:24:03,902 --> 00:24:07,530
"Children's Letters
to the World's Largest Vase."

586
00:24:07,614 --> 00:24:10,575
This is all you need to know
about Jim Downey, right here.

587
00:24:12,410 --> 00:24:15,538
- That era of "Letterman"
was the most exciting TV

588
00:24:15,663 --> 00:24:17,374
I had ever seen.

589
00:24:17,415 --> 00:24:20,335
It had this confidence
of, like, this is what it is,

590
00:24:20,418 --> 00:24:22,379
and you're watching it,
and you're gonna keep watching,

591
00:24:22,545 --> 00:24:23,838
'cause we got you.

592
00:24:24,005 --> 00:24:26,966
And it's like,
yeah, you fucking got me.

593
00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:28,093
- Are you still wrestling?

594
00:24:28,134 --> 00:24:29,177
- No, not--not really.

595
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,637
But I am having
a very good time,

596
00:24:30,679 --> 00:24:32,222
though, with myself.
- Uh-huh.

597
00:24:32,347 --> 00:24:34,391
[laughter]

598
00:24:34,432 --> 00:24:37,268
And that period of time was
really beneficial to us

599
00:24:37,352 --> 00:24:40,105
because it then
helped attract, uh,

600
00:24:40,188 --> 00:24:43,233
other really good writers
to our show.

601
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,902
[applause]

602
00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:48,780
- We did do some, I think,
some really good things.

603
00:24:48,863 --> 00:24:50,031
- Now you can blow out
the match.

604
00:24:50,115 --> 00:24:51,366
- You're in town visiting?

605
00:24:51,408 --> 00:24:53,159
- Well, um, next month,
uh, we'll be

606
00:24:53,326 --> 00:24:56,121
appearing in Atlantic City.

607
00:24:56,246 --> 00:24:57,080
- Jim, come on in.

608
00:24:57,247 --> 00:24:58,540
[applause]

609
00:24:58,581 --> 00:25:01,584
This is Frank Zappa,
and you know--

610
00:25:01,751 --> 00:25:06,047
Lorne started something
called "The New Show."

611
00:25:07,841 --> 00:25:10,552
And, uh, everybody fled.

612
00:25:10,593 --> 00:25:14,139
I wish we would have had
more time with Jim.

613
00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:15,765
[clicks, static droning]

614
00:25:15,807 --> 00:25:19,561
- Good evening, and welcome
to "The New Show."

615
00:25:19,644 --> 00:25:21,896
[orchestral music]

616
00:25:22,022 --> 00:25:23,023
[phone rings]

617
00:25:23,148 --> 00:25:25,066
- Hello, Roy's Food Repair.

618
00:25:25,191 --> 00:25:26,401
Yeah, eggs?

619
00:25:26,484 --> 00:25:27,444
Yeah, we fix 'em.

620
00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:29,320
[laughter]

621
00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:31,906
- According to the Fort
Lauderdale Police Department,

622
00:25:31,948 --> 00:25:34,075
are the five most common
causes of injury

623
00:25:34,117 --> 00:25:36,077
suffered by students
on spring break.

624
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,746
- We did "The New Show,"
which was...

625
00:25:37,829 --> 00:25:39,456
[imitates explosion]

626
00:25:39,622 --> 00:25:42,792
That's an example of why
you want to do stuff live,

627
00:25:42,834 --> 00:25:45,670
'cause, um,

628
00:25:45,754 --> 00:25:47,213
that didn't work.

629
00:25:47,255 --> 00:25:50,592
- Hello,
it's the Naughty Lady.

630
00:25:50,717 --> 00:25:52,302
- It's her!

631
00:25:52,385 --> 00:25:54,262
It's the Naughty Lady.

632
00:25:54,346 --> 00:25:56,514
- Hot dang!

633
00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:59,059
* *

634
00:26:02,687 --> 00:26:03,646
[projector whirring]

635
00:26:03,688 --> 00:26:06,524
[soft piano music]

636
00:26:06,608 --> 00:26:11,529
* *

637
00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:14,741
- 1984, I was on staff at "SNL"

638
00:26:14,783 --> 00:26:17,494
and Jim Downey returned
to the show.

639
00:26:17,577 --> 00:26:20,455
The prodigal son came home.

640
00:26:20,538 --> 00:26:21,664
One of the high points
of my life

641
00:26:21,790 --> 00:26:22,999
was sharing an office with Jim.

642
00:26:23,124 --> 00:26:27,045
We were right off
the read-through room.

643
00:26:27,087 --> 00:26:28,922
- Oh, give me a break!

644
00:26:29,047 --> 00:26:30,423
Burned to a crisp.

645
00:26:30,507 --> 00:26:32,175
Why do I keep forgetting
to wear an oven mitt?

646
00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:35,178
Ow! Ow!

647
00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:36,596
Ow, ow!

648
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:41,267
- We never really had
had a head writer, per se.

649
00:26:41,351 --> 00:26:46,981
I tried to help every piece be
the best version of itself.

650
00:26:47,023 --> 00:26:50,151
It sounds corny,
but it's the truth.

651
00:26:50,276 --> 00:26:55,073
- And I do have this memory of
other cast members and writers

652
00:26:55,198 --> 00:26:59,160
lining up outside
on Tuesday night,

653
00:26:59,202 --> 00:27:01,371
sometimes well, well,
well into the night,

654
00:27:01,496 --> 00:27:04,582
to run their sketches
past Jim.

655
00:27:04,666 --> 00:27:08,545
- When I first started, people
would wait outside your office

656
00:27:08,628 --> 00:27:10,547
to get time with you.

657
00:27:10,588 --> 00:27:13,758
- Midnight to 3:00 a.m.,
I would camp outside the door.

658
00:27:13,842 --> 00:27:16,386
And you would wait, and you
would wait, and you would wait.

659
00:27:16,511 --> 00:27:20,056
And then around 1:30,
he'd crack it.

660
00:27:20,098 --> 00:27:22,517
- And the door would open,
and I'd go, hey, Jim.

661
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,686
And you'd want to test
the idea on him to see,

662
00:27:24,811 --> 00:27:25,729
should we pursue this?

663
00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:27,605
Or is it just awful?

664
00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:30,025
- He knew how to take
what we wrote and just go,

665
00:27:30,108 --> 00:27:30,900
well, you don't want
to say that.

666
00:27:30,984 --> 00:27:31,943
You want to say this.

667
00:27:31,985 --> 00:27:33,361
- We'd go over Hanz and Franz,

668
00:27:33,486 --> 00:27:35,655
and he'd come up with, like,
three different fixes.

669
00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:38,992
Listen to me now
and believe me later.

670
00:27:39,075 --> 00:27:41,453
You can't count
all the stars, Franz.

671
00:27:41,578 --> 00:27:45,248
It's like trying to count
all your muscles.

672
00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:46,791
- Even if you have
a sketch that's good,

673
00:27:46,875 --> 00:27:49,794
he can always throw his magic
wand on it and make it better.

674
00:27:49,878 --> 00:27:52,922
- What I was trying to create
for the performer was

675
00:27:53,006 --> 00:27:56,176
an attitude to sort of
sink into, you know?

676
00:27:56,343 --> 00:27:57,844
- An overall concept
of a thing being funny

677
00:27:57,927 --> 00:28:00,221
and not just, like, setup,
punchline, setup, punchline.

678
00:28:00,263 --> 00:28:03,183
The Receptionist was
that sort of attitude.

679
00:28:03,224 --> 00:28:04,976
- Hi, I'm here
to see Mr. Clark.

680
00:28:05,101 --> 00:28:07,270
- OK, and you are?

681
00:28:07,312 --> 00:28:08,772
- Kenneth Hornaday.

682
00:28:08,855 --> 00:28:10,231
- Right.

683
00:28:10,273 --> 00:28:11,608
I put that together
and Downey goes,

684
00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:12,942
I like that attitude.

685
00:28:13,068 --> 00:28:14,778
I like what you're doing.

686
00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:16,071
It's not joke-heavy.

687
00:28:16,196 --> 00:28:17,113
So he sort of steered it.

688
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,990
Uh-uh-uh-uh-uh. Hi, there.

689
00:28:19,115 --> 00:28:20,408
Hi.

690
00:28:20,492 --> 00:28:21,618
- Yeah, I'm here
to see Dick Clark.

691
00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:22,702
- Uh-huh.

692
00:28:22,786 --> 00:28:24,996
And you are?

693
00:28:25,038 --> 00:28:26,247
- Tell him it's Hammer.

694
00:28:26,289 --> 00:28:29,793
- And he would know you
because you...

695
00:28:29,834 --> 00:28:30,835
- Look, it's Hammer.

696
00:28:30,919 --> 00:28:32,087
You know, like Madonna.

697
00:28:32,170 --> 00:28:34,172
- Right, and she is...

698
00:28:34,297 --> 00:28:35,799
[laughter]

699
00:28:35,882 --> 00:28:37,967
- Your mama.
Never mind. Forget it.

700
00:28:38,009 --> 00:28:41,971
- On "SNL," you could be
a genius Saturday night,

701
00:28:42,013 --> 00:28:43,723
and then by Tuesday,
if you didn't have an idea,

702
00:28:43,807 --> 00:28:46,017
you felt like the biggest
failure, if you were a writer.

703
00:28:46,101 --> 00:28:48,186
- The worst part is you go in
and you tell him

704
00:28:48,228 --> 00:28:50,605
your sketch idea, and he goes,

705
00:28:50,689 --> 00:28:52,315
I can't tell you why
that wouldn't work.

706
00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:54,275
I just--I don't think
that it's gonna work.

707
00:28:54,317 --> 00:28:56,027
So you walk out there
at 3:00 a.m. going,

708
00:28:56,111 --> 00:28:57,362
I have to start over.

709
00:28:57,445 --> 00:28:58,446
Read-through's tomorrow.

710
00:28:58,571 --> 00:28:59,948
I go knock on Smigel.

711
00:29:00,073 --> 00:29:01,074
Need help with anything?

712
00:29:01,199 --> 00:29:02,492
Housekeeping.

713
00:29:02,575 --> 00:29:04,244
- You write it yourself,
and you go,

714
00:29:04,285 --> 00:29:05,829
I don't know, is this any good?

715
00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:07,872
And then when you take it
to someone like Jim Downey,

716
00:29:07,956 --> 00:29:11,167
and he says it's really good,
then suddenly you go,

717
00:29:11,251 --> 00:29:13,003
well, if Jim thinks it's good,
it must be good,

718
00:29:13,044 --> 00:29:14,713
so I'm fine.

719
00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:18,049
- It wasn't until I did
the national anthem sketch...

720
00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:19,467
* Oh *

721
00:29:21,344 --> 00:29:23,722
* Say *

722
00:29:23,805 --> 00:29:27,976
* An ooh ee *

723
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,647
* By the dawn's *

724
00:29:34,315 --> 00:29:37,027
* Early light *

725
00:29:37,068 --> 00:29:40,363
That he went nuts over,
that made me feel like,

726
00:29:40,447 --> 00:29:41,948
I think I did something here.

727
00:29:42,073 --> 00:29:44,659
- Jim had such respect
from everyone.

728
00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:47,746
He would give you confidence.

729
00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:50,165
- I loved a great impression.

730
00:29:50,290 --> 00:29:52,625
And you bring to that really
good writing to the character,

731
00:29:52,709 --> 00:29:53,793
that's pretty hard to top.

732
00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:55,211
- Yeah, yeah.

733
00:29:55,337 --> 00:29:57,422
- My approval ratings
are down a little bit.

734
00:29:57,547 --> 00:29:59,799
Don't like the direction
they're taking.

735
00:29:59,883 --> 00:30:00,967
This is good here.

736
00:30:01,051 --> 00:30:02,010
That's good.

737
00:30:02,093 --> 00:30:03,511
That's--that's bad.

738
00:30:03,553 --> 00:30:05,013
[laughter]

739
00:30:05,055 --> 00:30:06,389
Worse.

740
00:30:06,514 --> 00:30:08,266
- Dana would duplicate
the character,

741
00:30:08,308 --> 00:30:10,477
and then he would italicize it

742
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,686
and stretch it
and pull it out of shape.

743
00:30:11,770 --> 00:30:14,314
- Notice I didn't say
recession.

744
00:30:14,356 --> 00:30:18,568
Well, as an undecided
Latino voter--

745
00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:19,652
Natural disaster.

746
00:30:19,778 --> 00:30:21,988
Not my fault.

747
00:30:22,072 --> 00:30:23,406
And then we had
this one phrase,

748
00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:25,075
which I remember specifically.

749
00:30:25,116 --> 00:30:26,701
You wrote it.

750
00:30:26,743 --> 00:30:28,953
On the paper it was,
not going to do it.

751
00:30:29,037 --> 00:30:30,080
And that became--

752
00:30:30,163 --> 00:30:31,956
- And it became, nah-gah-dah.

753
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,999
- On the cue card.

754
00:30:33,041 --> 00:30:35,168
Not gonna do it.
Not gonna do it.

755
00:30:35,293 --> 00:30:36,878
Ah-gah-bah.

756
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,214
Once the audience went
with that, we had them.

757
00:30:39,339 --> 00:30:40,256
* We're not gonna lose *

758
00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:41,800
* Not gonna do it *

759
00:30:41,841 --> 00:30:44,302
* Not gah, not gah *

760
00:30:44,344 --> 00:30:45,720
* Not gonna do it *

761
00:30:45,887 --> 00:30:47,430
[jazzy music]

762
00:30:47,514 --> 00:30:51,226
- You, watching this at home,
worship me!

763
00:30:51,267 --> 00:30:54,604
I command you,
become my willing thralls

764
00:30:54,646 --> 00:30:56,398
and live eternally!

765
00:30:56,523 --> 00:30:59,609
- That much oat bran...

766
00:30:59,693 --> 00:31:00,610
- What the hell do you think
you're doing?

767
00:31:00,735 --> 00:31:02,987
* *

768
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:05,073
- You tell somebody a joke,

769
00:31:05,156 --> 00:31:07,367
most people will
make it worse,

770
00:31:07,492 --> 00:31:12,038
but there's 10% who will
bring it back to you better.

771
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,873
And so that's why
we introduced

772
00:31:13,957 --> 00:31:16,292
the Thursday rewrites,
to have everyone there

773
00:31:16,376 --> 00:31:18,503
offer up quick suggestions.

774
00:31:18,545 --> 00:31:21,423
We never had rewrites in the
first five years of the show.

775
00:31:21,464 --> 00:31:23,800
I added them when
you joined the show--

776
00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:25,468
- When I joined the show.

777
00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:26,636
It was like,
this guy's gonna need...

778
00:31:26,678 --> 00:31:27,762
- He's gonna want--

779
00:31:27,846 --> 00:31:29,973
- A little bit of tweaking.

780
00:31:30,015 --> 00:31:32,851
- What happens at read-through
stays at read-through.

781
00:31:32,976 --> 00:31:35,687
You're free
to, like, take a shot,

782
00:31:35,812 --> 00:31:37,814
and it was important
because it meant people

783
00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:41,026
were willing to take chances.

784
00:31:41,109 --> 00:31:44,654
You always had that
first wave of relief

785
00:31:44,696 --> 00:31:46,322
of, like, oh, OK,
we came up with something.

786
00:31:46,364 --> 00:31:48,074
It was written up.

787
00:31:48,158 --> 00:31:50,201
But the fear of death
at the table

788
00:31:50,243 --> 00:31:52,203
is really significant.

789
00:31:52,245 --> 00:31:53,621
- Where is Canteen Boy?

790
00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:56,124
- [chuckles]
He's right over there.

791
00:31:56,166 --> 00:31:57,959
[laughter]

792
00:31:58,043 --> 00:32:01,171
- Downey looked out for me
my whole time at the show.

793
00:32:01,254 --> 00:32:03,006
My stuff didn't do that great
at read-through,

794
00:32:03,048 --> 00:32:05,592
and Jim always kind of said,
I don't know, just--

795
00:32:05,675 --> 00:32:08,845
that one, give--let Adam just
give it a shot at that.

796
00:32:08,887 --> 00:32:10,305
- Let's go, scouts.

797
00:32:10,472 --> 00:32:12,557
- He mentioned Alec Baldwin
being a scout leader

798
00:32:12,682 --> 00:32:15,435
and him wanting to be alone
with the Canteen Boy.

799
00:32:15,518 --> 00:32:17,228
- I wanted to talk to you
about something.

800
00:32:17,354 --> 00:32:20,148
I see you take a lot of
ribbing from the other scouts.

801
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:21,900
- Goes with the territory,
Mr. Armstrong.

802
00:32:21,983 --> 00:32:22,817
Sticks and stones.

803
00:32:22,859 --> 00:32:23,818
[chuckles]

804
00:32:23,860 --> 00:32:25,570
- [laughs]

805
00:32:25,653 --> 00:32:27,155
Atta boy.

806
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,159
[laughter, groaning]

807
00:32:31,284 --> 00:32:32,327
- Jim gave me that one.

808
00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:33,870
That was a monster.

809
00:32:33,912 --> 00:32:36,289
That was, like, one of my
biggest things that I ever had.

810
00:32:36,331 --> 00:32:38,458
- Took on another level
with Downey,

811
00:32:38,583 --> 00:32:41,378
where it's like the performance
is part of the concept.

812
00:32:41,461 --> 00:32:43,004
- It should be noted,
when you have one line

813
00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:44,547
in a Jim Downey sketch,

814
00:32:44,631 --> 00:32:46,591
you are going to have
a long conversation

815
00:32:46,675 --> 00:32:48,426
about exactly how he'd
like you to say that line.

816
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:49,969
- It was word for word.

817
00:32:50,053 --> 00:32:52,222
Like, he would take you
through sentence by sentence.

818
00:32:52,305 --> 00:32:53,765
And that's not an exaggeration.

819
00:32:53,848 --> 00:32:55,100
- Blueprints that
you want to build the house

820
00:32:55,183 --> 00:32:57,727
exactly to those plans.

821
00:32:57,811 --> 00:32:59,479
- Sometimes between
dress and air,

822
00:32:59,521 --> 00:33:00,814
where you're like,
oh, my God, Jim,

823
00:33:00,897 --> 00:33:02,065
we're gonna run out of time.

824
00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:03,566
How are we going
to go over this

825
00:33:03,650 --> 00:33:05,360
beat by beat by beat?

826
00:33:05,402 --> 00:33:08,947
- But he also had such love
for a cast

827
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:11,408
that could bring performance
to his work.

828
00:33:11,449 --> 00:33:14,160
- The other cast members would
be slightly pissed at you.

829
00:33:14,285 --> 00:33:18,081
Like, how the fuck did you
get Downey on your side?

830
00:33:18,206 --> 00:33:20,250
- I think, uh,
the initials, uh,

831
00:33:20,291 --> 00:33:24,921
JD on a sketch, that, I think,
helped improve its odds.

832
00:33:24,963 --> 00:33:27,507
- He's picking the sketches,
so if he's on your team,

833
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:28,508
it's great.

834
00:33:30,176 --> 00:33:34,097
- Now, this is Lorne's office,

835
00:33:34,139 --> 00:33:37,517
largely unchanged.

836
00:33:37,684 --> 00:33:40,979
The board has every sketch
indicated by

837
00:33:41,021 --> 00:33:42,689
a little three-by-five card.

838
00:33:42,814 --> 00:33:44,190
I'd be in here with Lorne.

839
00:33:44,274 --> 00:33:46,484
There'd be a lot of--of people
coming up to the board.

840
00:33:46,526 --> 00:33:50,697
Like, writers going, like,
uh, are you fucking kidding me?

841
00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:52,741
We're doing "Elevator Ride"?

842
00:33:52,782 --> 00:33:53,825
Jesus.

843
00:33:53,908 --> 00:33:55,035
[jazzy music]

844
00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:57,954
We take what we do
very seriously,

845
00:33:58,038 --> 00:34:01,166
but it is a lot easier when
you're having a good time.

846
00:34:02,208 --> 00:34:03,793
- Oh!

847
00:34:03,835 --> 00:34:04,711
- Nice one!

848
00:34:04,878 --> 00:34:05,795
- Oh!

849
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,547
- Oh, yeah!
- Whoo!

850
00:34:07,672 --> 00:34:08,882
- Oh, my God!

851
00:34:09,049 --> 00:34:11,092
- Bob Odenkirk was
writing at the show.

852
00:34:11,176 --> 00:34:13,636
We were sent
these soft vinyl--

853
00:34:13,678 --> 00:34:14,971
like a baseball.

854
00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:16,264
We're sitting there
in rewrites,

855
00:34:16,306 --> 00:34:18,433
and Bob is, like,
undoing the stitching.

856
00:34:18,516 --> 00:34:21,644
It took him all day and he
finally unraveled the thing.

857
00:34:21,686 --> 00:34:23,813
It was very quickly
discovered that if you threw

858
00:34:23,897 --> 00:34:26,399
this shit really hard
at the wall, it would stick.

859
00:34:26,483 --> 00:34:30,278
And so Jack Handey and
Odenkirk invented this game.

860
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,238
- Oh!

861
00:34:32,322 --> 00:34:34,282
- The idea was to hit
the goo with the dart.

862
00:34:34,407 --> 00:34:35,992
- No, no, no. God, no.

863
00:34:36,076 --> 00:34:37,202
Jesus, Conan.

864
00:34:37,327 --> 00:34:38,703
- I'm sorry, I'm thinking
of old goo rules.

865
00:34:38,787 --> 00:34:39,913
- Yes, old goo.

866
00:34:39,954 --> 00:34:41,623
You throw the darts
in a pattern

867
00:34:41,706 --> 00:34:44,209
to deflect the goo...
- Ah.

868
00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:47,921
- So that--and you create
either a shunt or a--a fence.

869
00:34:48,004 --> 00:34:49,631
There were different terms
for the different

870
00:34:49,714 --> 00:34:50,590
types of barriers.

871
00:34:54,344 --> 00:34:55,845
- Oh! Sorry.

872
00:34:55,929 --> 00:34:56,930
- It's, like,
1:00 in the morning,

873
00:34:56,971 --> 00:34:58,181
and everyone's having
a great time.

874
00:34:58,264 --> 00:34:59,557
And they pan around the room,

875
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:00,475
and I'm just like this.

876
00:35:00,517 --> 00:35:01,893
- [laughs]

877
00:35:01,976 --> 00:35:03,978
- I'm just looking at
my script and just...

878
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:05,271
- Yes.

879
00:35:05,313 --> 00:35:07,607
The equivalent of
the royal flush

880
00:35:07,691 --> 00:35:09,484
was to create
what's called a cradle...

881
00:35:09,526 --> 00:35:11,152
[laughter]

882
00:35:11,194 --> 00:35:14,656
Where you'd create, like,
a semicircular pattern

883
00:35:14,781 --> 00:35:17,534
of darts so the goo would
roll into it and get trapped.

884
00:35:17,617 --> 00:35:19,411
- Yeah!

885
00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:23,373
- But you could also
slow the goo down

886
00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:25,792
and give another player
time to cradle it.

887
00:35:25,834 --> 00:35:27,961
- You realize
it's not a real sport?

888
00:35:28,086 --> 00:35:31,756
- Well, tell that to
the American Goo Federation.

889
00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:35,093
- What I have found
in comedy writing,

890
00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:38,096
particularly,
is that screwing around is

891
00:35:38,221 --> 00:35:41,474
80% of the job
and somehow necessary.

892
00:35:41,558 --> 00:35:43,601
Years and years of my life have
been spent in a writers' room

893
00:35:43,685 --> 00:35:46,354
with us howling, playing with
some stupid prop in the room.

894
00:35:46,396 --> 00:35:47,605
- Yes.

895
00:35:47,647 --> 00:35:49,107
- And when you try and go home

896
00:35:49,232 --> 00:35:51,985
and explain it to your wife,
it doesn't make any sense.

897
00:35:52,027 --> 00:35:54,404
But somehow,
it's part of the process.

898
00:35:54,487 --> 00:35:57,449
- This exchange,
which I will never forget...

899
00:35:57,615 --> 00:35:59,909
- [laughs]
- From your audition.

900
00:35:59,993 --> 00:36:01,202
Surely this will be familiar.

901
00:36:01,327 --> 00:36:02,662
- Yes.
- All right.

902
00:36:02,746 --> 00:36:04,539
- OK, so this is Scarface--

903
00:36:04,622 --> 00:36:06,166
- And the Church--
- Church Lady.

904
00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:07,709
- Scarface and the Church Lady.

905
00:36:07,751 --> 00:36:09,044
- [as Scarface]
Lady, let me tell you.

906
00:36:09,127 --> 00:36:10,420
Let me tell you, lady.

907
00:36:10,503 --> 00:36:12,589
You look like
a big bowl of fuck.

908
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:15,258
- [laughing]

909
00:36:15,342 --> 00:36:16,885
- [as Church Lady]
Well, isn't that special?

910
00:36:17,010 --> 00:36:18,094
[normal voice] Perfect.

911
00:36:18,178 --> 00:36:19,220
That's, like, perfect comedy.

912
00:36:19,304 --> 00:36:20,555
[as Lorne]
Uh, the show is over.

913
00:36:20,638 --> 00:36:22,098
We're canceling it
in the middle.

914
00:36:22,182 --> 00:36:23,308
There'll be a TV movie
of the week.

915
00:36:23,391 --> 00:36:24,392
It was...

916
00:36:24,434 --> 00:36:25,977
[laughter]

917
00:36:26,061 --> 00:36:27,812
[jazzy music]

918
00:36:27,937 --> 00:36:30,482
- I am Uberman.
I have superhuman powers.

919
00:36:30,523 --> 00:36:33,276
- Two wild and crazy guys!

920
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,821
- You need a good attorney
in your corner.

921
00:36:36,905 --> 00:36:39,115
* *

922
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:40,408
- This is impossible.

923
00:36:40,492 --> 00:36:42,160
Uh, can't we just
hire them both?

924
00:36:42,202 --> 00:36:44,245
- No. We've been through this.

925
00:36:44,287 --> 00:36:46,039
We've only got the budget
for one dancer.

926
00:36:46,122 --> 00:36:47,248
- Yeah, but they're both
so great.

927
00:36:47,332 --> 00:36:49,125
I can't decide between them.

928
00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:51,628
- I always forget that
he wrote "Chippendales,"

929
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:56,716
because that, to me, is one
of my favorite of all time.

930
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,551
[laughter]

931
00:36:58,718 --> 00:37:01,805
[Loverboy's
"Working for the Weekend"]

932
00:37:01,930 --> 00:37:04,140
* *

933
00:37:04,182 --> 00:37:05,975
- That premise came to me
because of the host,

934
00:37:06,017 --> 00:37:07,727
because Swayze.

935
00:37:07,769 --> 00:37:11,981
- * Will you come out
tonight *

936
00:37:12,065 --> 00:37:15,402
* Everyone's trying
to get it right *

937
00:37:15,485 --> 00:37:16,820
* Get it right *

938
00:37:16,903 --> 00:37:18,279
- "Chippendales,"
I was 10 feet away

939
00:37:18,321 --> 00:37:19,989
just watching it going,
goddamn, this is good.

940
00:37:20,031 --> 00:37:21,282
And you don't know.

941
00:37:21,324 --> 00:37:22,117
They go, "Chippendales,"
and they go,

942
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,119
OK, next, uh, 30 seconds.

943
00:37:24,244 --> 00:37:26,371
And everyone just runs off,
and you don't even think twice.

944
00:37:26,496 --> 00:37:27,956
You're just running
to the next thing.

945
00:37:27,997 --> 00:37:30,709
You don't know,
I just witnessed history.

946
00:37:30,834 --> 00:37:35,880
- * Everybody needs
a second chance, oh *

947
00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:37,507
[jazzy music]

948
00:37:37,549 --> 00:37:40,677
- [growls] Fire bad!

949
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,054
[shouting, grunting]

950
00:37:43,138 --> 00:37:44,764
- You crazy bitch!

951
00:37:44,889 --> 00:37:46,016
I'll kill you!

952
00:37:46,099 --> 00:37:48,101
- You're not a man,
you're a joke!

953
00:37:48,184 --> 00:37:50,311
- [screams]

954
00:37:50,395 --> 00:37:52,772
- It's almost
unimaginable today

955
00:37:52,856 --> 00:37:54,733
to comprehend a private life

956
00:37:54,858 --> 00:37:56,776
as emotionally charged
as the Lincolns'.

957
00:37:56,860 --> 00:37:58,695
- You're a sick woman, Mary!

958
00:37:58,737 --> 00:37:59,738
[cracking, rumbling]

959
00:37:59,779 --> 00:38:01,948
- ...the complexities

960
00:38:02,032 --> 00:38:03,450
of modern life and warfare.

961
00:38:03,575 --> 00:38:05,160
- I hate you!

962
00:38:05,326 --> 00:38:07,287
- It's amazing how much
of the tension and struggle

963
00:38:07,328 --> 00:38:11,541
of that show just
is somehow built-in.

964
00:38:11,583 --> 00:38:13,710
It was hard for me.

965
00:38:13,752 --> 00:38:16,713
I think it's hard for anybody
over time to not go,

966
00:38:16,755 --> 00:38:19,883
if only I could have two more
weeks to rehearse this,

967
00:38:20,008 --> 00:38:21,343
and maybe rewrite this stuff,

968
00:38:21,426 --> 00:38:24,095
and try to have
a higher laugh ratio.

969
00:38:24,179 --> 00:38:28,641
I wonder what he thinks
about the built-in degree

970
00:38:28,683 --> 00:38:32,479
of expectation falling short.

971
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,272
- I had been
basically miserable

972
00:38:34,356 --> 00:38:36,316
my last couple years doing it.

973
00:38:36,358 --> 00:38:37,692
That was a time
when I should have

974
00:38:37,817 --> 00:38:39,527
taken a year off on my own.

975
00:38:39,611 --> 00:38:43,865
And then I was fired
as producer in--

976
00:38:43,948 --> 00:38:47,619
at the end
of the '94-'95 season.

977
00:38:47,702 --> 00:38:51,373
[tense music]

978
00:38:51,456 --> 00:38:53,208
- At a certain point,
you've done enough work

979
00:38:53,291 --> 00:38:54,668
that you're competing
with yourself,

980
00:38:54,709 --> 00:38:57,253
so it becomes
harder and harder.

981
00:38:57,420 --> 00:38:59,422
And you want to stay fresh

982
00:38:59,547 --> 00:39:01,466
and you want to stay original,
and--

983
00:39:01,591 --> 00:39:03,134
and most of all,
you want to stay funny.

984
00:39:03,176 --> 00:39:06,596
So that is just how it works.

985
00:39:06,638 --> 00:39:09,474
[projector whirring]

986
00:39:09,557 --> 00:39:12,310
* *

987
00:39:12,352 --> 00:39:14,479
- You know, I had a lot of--

988
00:39:14,562 --> 00:39:17,440
I thought there were some
productive years there.

989
00:39:17,565 --> 00:39:21,736
* *

990
00:39:21,861 --> 00:39:23,405
Norm, meanwhile,
is calling me like,

991
00:39:23,446 --> 00:39:24,989
hey, hey, hey, Jim,
we gotta do "Update," huh?

992
00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:31,204
[exciting music]

993
00:39:31,287 --> 00:39:34,249
- "Weekend Update"
with Norm MacDonald.

994
00:39:34,332 --> 00:39:35,291
- Thank you.

995
00:39:35,375 --> 00:39:37,293
[cheers and applause]

996
00:39:37,377 --> 00:39:39,254
Thanks.

997
00:39:39,337 --> 00:39:40,797
Thank you.

998
00:39:40,922 --> 00:39:42,966
I'm Norm Macdonald,
and this is the news.

999
00:39:43,091 --> 00:39:45,218
Real estate mogul Donald Trump
announced this week

1000
00:39:45,301 --> 00:39:46,803
that after 3 1/2 years
of marriage,

1001
00:39:46,928 --> 00:39:48,471
he is seeking a divorce

1002
00:39:48,555 --> 00:39:50,098
from wife Marla Maples.

1003
00:39:50,223 --> 00:39:52,225
According to Trump,
Maples violated part

1004
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:53,476
of their marriage agreement

1005
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,729
when she decided to turn 30.

1006
00:39:55,770 --> 00:39:58,982
- Working with Norm was
so fun.

1007
00:39:59,024 --> 00:40:01,943
That was a very happy period.

1008
00:40:02,027 --> 00:40:03,319
- And in music news,

1009
00:40:03,403 --> 00:40:05,613
number one on the college
charts this summer

1010
00:40:05,697 --> 00:40:07,824
was Better Than Ezra.

1011
00:40:07,866 --> 00:40:12,495
And at number two, Ezra.

1012
00:40:12,579 --> 00:40:17,000
- Oh, my God, he just
dared people to laugh.

1013
00:40:17,083 --> 00:40:19,044
Norm just couldn't care less.

1014
00:40:19,127 --> 00:40:23,089
- A French man who calls
himself the Snake Man

1015
00:40:23,173 --> 00:40:25,258
was arrested this week
after climbing up the side

1016
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:27,510
of a Manhattan high-rise.

1017
00:40:27,635 --> 00:40:30,388
Yep, he climbed right up
the side of a high-rise,

1018
00:40:30,513 --> 00:40:32,349
just like a snake.

1019
00:40:32,474 --> 00:40:33,725
[laughter]

1020
00:40:33,808 --> 00:40:35,727
- The rhythm of them was
something that,

1021
00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:38,563
even today,
hasn't been replicated.

1022
00:40:38,646 --> 00:40:41,358
- It was all in the writing
and Norm's

1023
00:40:41,441 --> 00:40:44,319
committed dry performance,
you know.

1024
00:40:44,402 --> 00:40:45,320
- Mm-hmm. Yeah.

1025
00:40:47,489 --> 00:40:50,658
- Note to self, uh,
find new way

1026
00:40:50,784 --> 00:40:53,953
of fraudulently obtaining
food stamps.

1027
00:40:54,037 --> 00:40:56,247
[laughter]

1028
00:40:56,331 --> 00:40:58,833
- We just believed
in the jokes.

1029
00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:02,545
When Norm did those jokes,
he couldn't be shaken.

1030
00:41:02,671 --> 00:41:07,384
- He has the most unique,
one-of-a-kind kind delivery.

1031
00:41:07,467 --> 00:41:11,012
I can imagine how exciting
that would be,

1032
00:41:11,054 --> 00:41:15,141
to have Norm Macdonald be
the mouthpiece for your jokes.

1033
00:41:15,225 --> 00:41:17,310
- Clinton yesterday announced
that, from now on,

1034
00:41:17,394 --> 00:41:19,104
the territory of Bosnia
and Herzegovina

1035
00:41:19,187 --> 00:41:22,732
will be referred to as Vietnam.

1036
00:41:22,857 --> 00:41:25,443
- Of all the performers
that I've ever worked with,

1037
00:41:25,568 --> 00:41:30,240
I actually had the most
perfect simpatico with Norm.

1038
00:41:30,323 --> 00:41:32,575
- When you and Norm
found each other,

1039
00:41:32,659 --> 00:41:36,496
it was like tuning forks
that were perfectly matched.

1040
00:41:37,872 --> 00:41:40,583
- Norm and Jim,

1041
00:41:40,709 --> 00:41:43,169
that has to be
Jim's favorite combination

1042
00:41:43,294 --> 00:41:45,380
in--in all of show business.

1043
00:41:45,463 --> 00:41:47,173
[laughter, applause]

1044
00:41:47,215 --> 00:41:49,217
- Can I tell
my favorite Norm joke?

1045
00:41:49,342 --> 00:41:50,760
It was, the richest girl
in the world

1046
00:41:50,844 --> 00:41:51,845
had her 10-year-old birthday.

1047
00:41:51,970 --> 00:41:54,347
- Millionaire Athina Onassis

1048
00:41:54,431 --> 00:41:56,641
celebrated her 10th birthday
this week.

1049
00:41:56,725 --> 00:41:58,560
- What do you get for
the richest girl in the world?

1050
00:41:58,643 --> 00:41:59,644
Well, here's an idea.

1051
00:41:59,728 --> 00:42:02,522
- At the party,
they had two cakes.

1052
00:42:02,605 --> 00:42:03,523
[rim shot]

1053
00:42:03,606 --> 00:42:05,275
[laughter]

1054
00:42:05,316 --> 00:42:07,027
- And it's such a good joke.

1055
00:42:07,110 --> 00:42:10,113
It doesn't really play,
but a truly great joke

1056
00:42:10,196 --> 00:42:13,241
is one that doesn't play

1057
00:42:13,324 --> 00:42:16,661
and that I remember
for 30 years.

1058
00:42:16,745 --> 00:42:18,955
[light percussive music]

1059
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:21,499
* *

1060
00:42:21,624 --> 00:42:25,211
- "Update" Norm is totally
in sync with your values,

1061
00:42:25,295 --> 00:42:29,049
which is perfect word choice,
perfect phrasing,

1062
00:42:29,090 --> 00:42:31,343
let's get the timing
just right.

1063
00:42:31,426 --> 00:42:32,761
- When you're
telling the joke,

1064
00:42:32,844 --> 00:42:34,846
it has to be a really good
version of the joke.

1065
00:42:34,971 --> 00:42:38,099
All the important elements are
done in the best possible way.

1066
00:42:38,141 --> 00:42:40,727
- The October issue of
"Penthouse," now on newsstands,

1067
00:42:40,852 --> 00:42:42,812
contains a picture
billed as, quote,

1068
00:42:42,937 --> 00:42:46,649
"the alien, the world's
first authentic photograph."

1069
00:42:46,775 --> 00:42:49,903
- The original joke
we started with was...

1070
00:42:49,986 --> 00:42:51,488
- A survey of
"Penthouse" readers finds

1071
00:42:51,571 --> 00:42:54,032
that 60% think
the photo is a fake,

1072
00:42:54,115 --> 00:42:56,534
while only 40% think it's real.

1073
00:42:56,576 --> 00:42:58,745
All 100%, however,
found it, quote...

1074
00:42:58,787 --> 00:43:02,582
- Quote, "sharp, clear,
and easy to masturbate to."

1075
00:43:02,707 --> 00:43:06,002
But we decided that
it would be better--

1076
00:43:06,044 --> 00:43:08,630
- All 100%, however, found it,

1077
00:43:08,672 --> 00:43:11,758
quote, "surprisingly easy
to masturbate to."

1078
00:43:11,841 --> 00:43:14,511
[laughter]

1079
00:43:14,594 --> 00:43:16,137
- But then it became

1080
00:43:16,262 --> 00:43:18,348
"surprisingly easy
to masturbate to."

1081
00:43:18,431 --> 00:43:20,934
Or, quote, "surprisingly easy."

1082
00:43:21,059 --> 00:43:24,771
- [laughs]
Elevates it a little bit.

1083
00:43:24,854 --> 00:43:26,690
- But that's the kind
of thing where

1084
00:43:26,815 --> 00:43:30,360
other people thought
we were kind of insane.

1085
00:43:30,443 --> 00:43:32,487
- OJ Simpson is wanted.

1086
00:43:32,570 --> 00:43:34,572
He's been charged
in the two murders

1087
00:43:34,614 --> 00:43:36,574
that took place Sunday night.

1088
00:43:36,658 --> 00:43:39,994
- A lot of people think
they know the story of Norm,

1089
00:43:40,036 --> 00:43:42,497
"Update," OJ, NBC.

1090
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:45,542
But I don't think,
necessarily, they do.

1091
00:43:45,667 --> 00:43:48,628
- F. Lee Bailey said this week
that if the defense only

1092
00:43:48,712 --> 00:43:51,297
knew what Ron Goldman's
last words were,

1093
00:43:51,423 --> 00:43:53,508
they might be able
to find the real killer.

1094
00:43:53,633 --> 00:43:55,927
You know, if you ask me,
Goldman's last words

1095
00:43:55,969 --> 00:43:58,680
were probably, uh,
hey, you're OJ Simpson!

1096
00:43:58,722 --> 00:44:01,641
[laughter, applause]

1097
00:44:03,309 --> 00:44:05,937
- The OJ murders happened--
still unsolved--uh...

1098
00:44:06,021 --> 00:44:07,605
- To this day.
- To this day.

1099
00:44:07,689 --> 00:44:11,735
And you and Norm start
doing jokes about

1100
00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:14,154
how it's quite clear
that he is the murderer.

1101
00:44:14,237 --> 00:44:18,241
- Was OJ Simpson high on speed
the night of the murders?

1102
00:44:18,366 --> 00:44:21,619
Absolutely not, said defense
attorney Johnnie Cochran today.

1103
00:44:21,703 --> 00:44:24,539
And a simple test
of any of OJ's blood

1104
00:44:24,664 --> 00:44:26,416
found at the crime scene
will prove it.

1105
00:44:26,541 --> 00:44:27,834
[laughter]

1106
00:44:27,959 --> 00:44:29,753
- Hey, Norm, what's up?
It's OJ.

1107
00:44:29,878 --> 00:44:31,338
- Oh, OJ!

1108
00:44:31,421 --> 00:44:33,673
OJ Simpson's new fitness video
was released this week.

1109
00:44:33,798 --> 00:44:35,633
Oh, no! OJ has struck again.

1110
00:44:35,717 --> 00:44:37,302
How about that?

1111
00:44:37,385 --> 00:44:40,513
It was revealed this week, the
defense lawyer Johnnie Cochran

1112
00:44:40,638 --> 00:44:42,932
once abused his first wife.

1113
00:44:42,974 --> 00:44:44,976
In his defense, Cochran said,

1114
00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:46,102
"Hey,
at least I didn't kill her

1115
00:44:46,186 --> 00:44:49,564
like some people I know."

1116
00:44:49,689 --> 00:44:51,941
- That would make them
exponentially funnier.

1117
00:44:52,025 --> 00:44:52,984
Just the sheer volume--

1118
00:44:53,068 --> 00:44:54,694
- I felt that way.
- Yeah.

1119
00:44:54,736 --> 00:44:57,405
- It was usually OJ thought
he was making a great point,

1120
00:44:57,530 --> 00:45:00,033
but incriminating himself
instead.

1121
00:45:00,075 --> 00:45:02,994
- In a brilliant move
during closing arguments,

1122
00:45:03,078 --> 00:45:04,829
Simpson attorney
Johnnie Cochran

1123
00:45:04,913 --> 00:45:08,375
put on the knit cap prosecutors
say OJ wore the night

1124
00:45:08,416 --> 00:45:10,085
he committed the murders,

1125
00:45:10,168 --> 00:45:12,337
although OJ may have hurt
his case when he suddenly

1126
00:45:12,420 --> 00:45:14,297
blurted out,
hey, hey, easy with that!

1127
00:45:14,339 --> 00:45:16,383
That's my lucky stabbin' hat!

1128
00:45:16,424 --> 00:45:18,551
[laughter]

1129
00:45:18,677 --> 00:45:21,304
- What you come to realize is
that the head of the network,

1130
00:45:21,429 --> 00:45:25,475
Don Ohlmeyer,
who's best friends with OJ,

1131
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,185
doesn't like these jokes.

1132
00:45:27,268 --> 00:45:29,354
- I believe OJ did not do this.

1133
00:45:29,437 --> 00:45:30,730
I don't think
the media in this town

1134
00:45:30,855 --> 00:45:33,274
believes that
OJ did not do this.

1135
00:45:33,358 --> 00:45:35,860
They're trying to portray this
like a football game.

1136
00:45:35,944 --> 00:45:38,655
- He didn't like Norm's comedy.

1137
00:45:38,738 --> 00:45:39,823
Jim was devoted to Norm.

1138
00:45:39,906 --> 00:45:42,033
I loved Norm as well.

1139
00:45:42,117 --> 00:45:44,494
It was all like
his personal taste

1140
00:45:44,577 --> 00:45:47,288
should be the thing
that decides things.

1141
00:45:47,414 --> 00:45:50,500
It wasn't the kind of comedy
he was used to.

1142
00:45:50,625 --> 00:45:53,169
And also they were making
a lot of jokes about OJ,

1143
00:45:53,253 --> 00:45:54,671
and that's when it started.

1144
00:45:54,754 --> 00:45:57,799
- In his book,
OJ Simpson says that

1145
00:45:57,882 --> 00:46:00,468
he would have taken a bullet
or stood in front of a train

1146
00:46:00,552 --> 00:46:02,012
for Nicole.

1147
00:46:02,137 --> 00:46:04,305
Man, I'm gonna tell you,
that is some bad luck,

1148
00:46:04,347 --> 00:46:06,266
when the one guy
who would have died for you

1149
00:46:06,349 --> 00:46:07,434
kills you.

1150
00:46:07,517 --> 00:46:08,685
[laughter]

1151
00:46:08,768 --> 00:46:10,061
- He was respectful.

1152
00:46:10,103 --> 00:46:12,022
And it was never
a fuck-you attitude,

1153
00:46:12,105 --> 00:46:13,356
but he was just like,

1154
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,900
who's this guy gonna
talk to me about

1155
00:46:15,984 --> 00:46:19,821
what's funny and not funny
and what we're allowed to say?

1156
00:46:19,946 --> 00:46:22,115
- Like we were not gonna
make jokes about OJ.

1157
00:46:22,198 --> 00:46:23,700
- There's a lot of people
in this town,

1158
00:46:23,783 --> 00:46:25,201
when he's proved innocent,

1159
00:46:25,285 --> 00:46:26,453
who are going to look
at you guys

1160
00:46:26,494 --> 00:46:27,829
and the stuff
you put on the air

1161
00:46:27,912 --> 00:46:30,331
in a totally different way.

1162
00:46:30,415 --> 00:46:32,208
They're just not
gonna believe you.

1163
00:46:32,292 --> 00:46:34,753
- They joked, and they just
were like, oh,

1164
00:46:34,836 --> 00:46:36,338
you want us to lay off
the OJ jokes?

1165
00:46:36,421 --> 00:46:38,673
Well, why don't we do more?

1166
00:46:38,757 --> 00:46:41,509
- Don Ohlmeyer said to me,
they're not funny.

1167
00:46:41,593 --> 00:46:43,470
And I said, no,
they're not funny to you,

1168
00:46:43,553 --> 00:46:46,056
but they are funny
to the audience that, uh,

1169
00:46:46,097 --> 00:46:48,308
is watching the show.

1170
00:46:48,433 --> 00:46:51,269
- The idea that
the head of the network

1171
00:46:51,311 --> 00:46:52,979
is supporting
someone who clearly

1172
00:46:53,063 --> 00:46:56,066
is a murderer,
and therefore insisting

1173
00:46:56,149 --> 00:46:59,652
on the firing of people
based on their jokes

1174
00:46:59,736 --> 00:47:02,655
about the murder,
is unheard of.

1175
00:47:02,739 --> 00:47:04,741
- We, the jury in
the above entitled action,

1176
00:47:04,866 --> 00:47:07,035
find the defendant,
Orenthal James Simpson,

1177
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,745
not guilty
of the crime of murder.

1178
00:47:08,828 --> 00:47:10,997
- Now the fake news.

1179
00:47:11,122 --> 00:47:13,333
Well, it is finally official.

1180
00:47:13,375 --> 00:47:16,544
Murder is legal
in the state of California.

1181
00:47:16,628 --> 00:47:19,547
[laughter, applause]

1182
00:47:23,551 --> 00:47:28,056
- Don, he was--
you gotta fire Norm and Jim.

1183
00:47:28,181 --> 00:47:31,685
And I obviously wasn't
gonna consider that

1184
00:47:31,726 --> 00:47:32,852
till the season was over.

1185
00:47:32,977 --> 00:47:34,270
He just kept pounding on it.

1186
00:47:34,354 --> 00:47:36,356
I said, do not do this.

1187
00:47:36,439 --> 00:47:38,066
If you want to make
this decision

1188
00:47:38,149 --> 00:47:40,026
at the end of the season,
Norm, maybe he was ready

1189
00:47:40,110 --> 00:47:42,237
to leave anyway,
and we'll decide then.

1190
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,905
But he overruled me.

1191
00:47:43,988 --> 00:47:46,282
It's, I think,
the only time that anybody

1192
00:47:46,366 --> 00:47:47,909
actually overruled me.

1193
00:47:47,992 --> 00:47:50,620
And he kind of had
the critics on his side.

1194
00:47:50,704 --> 00:47:53,498
And so, uh, he did it.

1195
00:47:53,581 --> 00:47:55,583
It was a disaster.

1196
00:47:55,625 --> 00:47:58,128
It tore us apart.

1197
00:47:58,211 --> 00:48:00,130
- The phone rings,
and it's Michael Shoemaker

1198
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:01,756
saying, a couple things.

1199
00:48:01,881 --> 00:48:04,259
Chris Farley is dead,
and you and Norm are fired.

1200
00:48:04,384 --> 00:48:06,636
[laughs]

1201
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,556
Norm was really devastated.

1202
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:12,976
My attitude was, hey,
we got three and a half

1203
00:48:13,018 --> 00:48:14,352
fun seasons out of it.

1204
00:48:14,394 --> 00:48:17,647
And, like, I'll take
a year off, you know?

1205
00:48:17,772 --> 00:48:20,358
- This guy Don Ohlmeyer,
he goes, uh, oh, yeah,

1206
00:48:20,442 --> 00:48:22,944
I'm, uh--I'm firing you there
from the show.

1207
00:48:23,028 --> 00:48:26,322
And then I said, uh,
oh, that's not good.

1208
00:48:26,406 --> 00:48:27,532
You know.

1209
00:48:27,615 --> 00:48:29,367
And then I said,
why is that now?

1210
00:48:29,451 --> 00:48:30,952
And he goes, uh,
oh, you're not--

1211
00:48:31,077 --> 00:48:32,203
you know, you're not funny.
- Yeah.

1212
00:48:32,287 --> 00:48:33,997
- And then I said, uh--

1213
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,250
I said, holy lord, that's
even worse news, you know?

1214
00:48:37,334 --> 00:48:40,003
[laughter]

1215
00:48:40,128 --> 00:48:42,422
- When Norm passed away,
just about everybody

1216
00:48:42,505 --> 00:48:44,132
did not know
that he was that sick.

1217
00:48:44,215 --> 00:48:45,759
People went back and they
started looking at

1218
00:48:45,884 --> 00:48:48,803
these mash-ups,
his best "Update" jokes,

1219
00:48:48,887 --> 00:48:53,058
and you just saw this
barrage of really great,

1220
00:48:53,099 --> 00:48:57,270
fantastic, timeless jokes
delivered perfectly.

1221
00:48:57,395 --> 00:48:59,939
And it was just
a great tribute to what

1222
00:49:00,023 --> 00:49:02,442
you two guys made together.

1223
00:49:02,567 --> 00:49:03,985
- That's all for now, folks.
Good night.

1224
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:05,028
Thanks a lot.

1225
00:49:05,111 --> 00:49:06,363
Enjoy.

1226
00:49:06,404 --> 00:49:09,282
[cheers and applause]

1227
00:49:15,288 --> 00:49:16,790
- It takes a special person

1228
00:49:16,956 --> 00:49:18,541
to be able to write something,

1229
00:49:18,625 --> 00:49:20,085
spend so much time doing it,

1230
00:49:20,168 --> 00:49:21,336
and then give it
to somebody else,

1231
00:49:21,419 --> 00:49:24,089
and just not have
that sad desire

1232
00:49:24,172 --> 00:49:26,341
to need to get the laugh
yourself.

1233
00:49:26,424 --> 00:49:28,009
- I thought Jim was an actor

1234
00:49:28,051 --> 00:49:29,511
because I'd seen him
on "Letterman."

1235
00:49:29,594 --> 00:49:31,471
- When you know Jim's face,

1236
00:49:31,596 --> 00:49:33,556
then you see him
in all those little things

1237
00:49:33,682 --> 00:49:34,557
over the years.

1238
00:49:34,683 --> 00:49:36,226
[jazzy music]

1239
00:49:36,267 --> 00:49:37,852
- Hi, I'm Craig.

1240
00:49:37,936 --> 00:49:40,230
I'm thinking of taking
a vacation in Jurassic Park.

1241
00:49:40,313 --> 00:49:41,439
I'm gonna go through it
once more.

1242
00:49:41,481 --> 00:49:43,191
I'm not the sort of person

1243
00:49:43,358 --> 00:49:46,194
who starts a job
and walks away from it.

1244
00:49:46,236 --> 00:49:48,196
- Much has been said
about Jeffrey Epstein.

1245
00:49:48,279 --> 00:49:49,197
Terrible things have been--

1246
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,490
- No, Jeff--

1247
00:49:50,532 --> 00:49:51,574
I'm talking about Jeff Epstein,

1248
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:52,992
the New York financier.

1249
00:49:53,076 --> 00:49:54,536
[laughter]

1250
00:49:54,577 --> 00:49:56,204
- Yes!

1251
00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:57,414
We're talking about
the same Jeff Epstein.

1252
00:49:57,539 --> 00:49:58,415
- No.
- Yes!

1253
00:49:58,498 --> 00:49:59,416
- No.

1254
00:49:59,499 --> 00:50:00,458
- Yes!

1255
00:50:00,583 --> 00:50:02,210
- Andy, I've been
dating your dad.

1256
00:50:02,293 --> 00:50:04,295
- Like, my dad, dad?

1257
00:50:04,379 --> 00:50:06,131
- It's gotten
extraordinarily physical.

1258
00:50:06,297 --> 00:50:09,050
[cheers and applause]

1259
00:50:09,175 --> 00:50:11,052
- Downey commits
a thousand percent,

1260
00:50:11,219 --> 00:50:14,097
and they really do go at it.
- Yeah.

1261
00:50:14,180 --> 00:50:16,599
[cheers and applause]

1262
00:50:16,641 --> 00:50:19,519
- If it were up to me,
we'd be putting up drywall

1263
00:50:19,686 --> 00:50:21,479
on your vagina building today.

1264
00:50:21,563 --> 00:50:22,731
- Well, I appreciate that, Jim.

1265
00:50:22,856 --> 00:50:23,648
I really do.
- But in the current climate--

1266
00:50:23,815 --> 00:50:25,608
- Downey's so present.

1267
00:50:25,692 --> 00:50:26,901
In "Billy Madison,"

1268
00:50:26,943 --> 00:50:28,653
I recognized him
from "Change Bank."

1269
00:50:28,737 --> 00:50:31,114
- We wanted Jim
to be the principal

1270
00:50:31,197 --> 00:50:34,784
and called him up, and he said,
yeah, yeah, what about this?

1271
00:50:34,826 --> 00:50:38,079
And he wrote the most
quoted thing from that movie.

1272
00:50:38,246 --> 00:50:41,916
- Mr. Madison,
what you've just said

1273
00:50:41,958 --> 00:50:44,210
is one of the most
insanely idiotic things

1274
00:50:44,294 --> 00:50:46,129
I have ever heard.

1275
00:50:46,171 --> 00:50:50,675
At no point in your rambling,
incoherent response

1276
00:50:50,759 --> 00:50:53,720
were you even close
to anything that could be

1277
00:50:53,845 --> 00:50:56,014
considered a rational thought.

1278
00:50:56,097 --> 00:50:59,017
Everyone in this room
is now dumber

1279
00:50:59,142 --> 00:51:01,019
for having listened to it.

1280
00:51:01,061 --> 00:51:02,228
I award you no points...

1281
00:51:02,312 --> 00:51:03,772
- [laughs]

1282
00:51:03,813 --> 00:51:05,940
- And may God have mercy
on your soul.

1283
00:51:06,024 --> 00:51:07,192
- Yeah, man.

1284
00:51:07,275 --> 00:51:09,152
I mean, I think
Downey said that

1285
00:51:09,235 --> 00:51:11,821
to me and Farley
several times in real life.

1286
00:51:11,863 --> 00:51:12,864
[funky music]

1287
00:51:12,989 --> 00:51:14,616
- You also were in

1288
00:51:14,657 --> 00:51:16,701
a Paul Thomas Anderson movie
as well.

1289
00:51:16,743 --> 00:51:18,453
People forget about that.

1290
00:51:18,536 --> 00:51:20,705
- He just had this notion
that I was

1291
00:51:20,789 --> 00:51:22,040
the perfect guy
to play that part.

1292
00:51:22,123 --> 00:51:23,833
So I go, oh, OK.

1293
00:51:23,875 --> 00:51:25,502
- "There Will Be Blood" is
one of my favorite movies

1294
00:51:25,585 --> 00:51:27,962
of that decade,
and Jim was in it.

1295
00:51:28,088 --> 00:51:31,174
- Can everything
around here be got?

1296
00:51:31,299 --> 00:51:32,592
- Sure.

1297
00:51:32,676 --> 00:51:34,469
- He really is,
as a sketch performer,

1298
00:51:34,552 --> 00:51:36,012
a really good actor.

1299
00:51:36,179 --> 00:51:39,474
- We will take our clients'
money and invest it.

1300
00:51:39,641 --> 00:51:41,768
Part of the profit,
we'll keep for ourselves.

1301
00:51:41,810 --> 00:51:45,063
The rest,
we will give to the client.

1302
00:51:45,105 --> 00:51:47,440
We will make a list
of our clients

1303
00:51:47,524 --> 00:51:50,610
and how much money each of
them has given us to invest.

1304
00:51:50,652 --> 00:51:53,697
We will keep this list
in a safe place.

1305
00:51:53,863 --> 00:51:57,158
If we have time,
we will make a copy of the list

1306
00:51:57,283 --> 00:52:00,495
in case something happens
to the first list.

1307
00:52:01,788 --> 00:52:04,124
- At "Saturday Night Live,"

1308
00:52:04,249 --> 00:52:06,793
the writers have
a lot of power.

1309
00:52:06,835 --> 00:52:08,253
- I want a piece of you,
Potter!

1310
00:52:08,294 --> 00:52:10,046
Why, I oughta pound you!

1311
00:52:10,171 --> 00:52:12,215
[shouting]

1312
00:52:12,298 --> 00:52:15,844
- The shape of the kind of
things that you do at "SNL,"

1313
00:52:15,885 --> 00:52:17,846
the degree of control
you can have...

1314
00:52:17,929 --> 00:52:20,098
- Is there a particular moment
when you said to yourself,

1315
00:52:20,181 --> 00:52:23,518
it's just--
it's just not my night?

1316
00:52:23,601 --> 00:52:27,147
- Probably when the mountain
lion urinated on me.

1317
00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:30,734
- I know I would never
find anywhere else.

1318
00:52:30,775 --> 00:52:32,569
[jazzy music]

1319
00:52:32,610 --> 00:52:34,738
I'd been away from the show
for a couple years,

1320
00:52:34,821 --> 00:52:38,074
and then Don Ohlmeyer left
the network.

1321
00:52:38,241 --> 00:52:40,493
It seemed like a few minutes
after he left,

1322
00:52:40,535 --> 00:52:41,536
Lorne's like, he's gone, right?

1323
00:52:41,661 --> 00:52:42,787
It's official?

1324
00:52:42,871 --> 00:52:44,539
Then he called me
and said, hey,

1325
00:52:44,664 --> 00:52:46,332
I'd like you to come back
to the show.

1326
00:52:46,416 --> 00:52:48,251
I remembered
my friends telling me,

1327
00:52:48,293 --> 00:52:50,295
if you go back to the show
after being fired twice,

1328
00:52:50,378 --> 00:52:51,921
we'll lose all respect for you.

1329
00:52:52,005 --> 00:52:53,381
- I did not say that.

1330
00:52:53,548 --> 00:52:55,508
- Lawrence did not say that.
- Yeah.

1331
00:52:55,550 --> 00:52:56,968
- Lorne made it
very clear that

1332
00:52:57,052 --> 00:52:59,304
he wanted me
to be a specialist.

1333
00:52:59,387 --> 00:53:00,889
- Good evening.

1334
00:53:00,930 --> 00:53:03,767
This is the CBS Evening
Anthrax Update,

1335
00:53:03,850 --> 00:53:05,477
Dan Rather reporting.

1336
00:53:05,518 --> 00:53:07,520
All right, this just in.

1337
00:53:07,604 --> 00:53:13,568
CBS News now confirming
that I have anthrax.

1338
00:53:13,651 --> 00:53:17,280
Now, to sum up where we stand
at the moment,

1339
00:53:17,405 --> 00:53:19,074
Rather, anthrax.

1340
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:22,619
Blitzer, anthrax,
attacked by a squirrel.

1341
00:53:22,702 --> 00:53:25,330
- Politics wasn't
always considered,

1342
00:53:25,372 --> 00:53:26,498
like, a hot property.

1343
00:53:26,539 --> 00:53:28,041
- Where have you been?

1344
00:53:28,124 --> 00:53:29,084
- Certainly not
in the early years.

1345
00:53:29,209 --> 00:53:30,126
- Ah, guten Tag.

1346
00:53:30,251 --> 00:53:32,170
[speaking German]

1347
00:53:32,253 --> 00:53:34,381
- Each decade
sort of kicked up

1348
00:53:34,464 --> 00:53:36,841
to where more and more
people were actually

1349
00:53:36,925 --> 00:53:39,219
interested in
political comedy.

1350
00:53:39,302 --> 00:53:41,513
- I don't run around saying,
Bob Dole does this

1351
00:53:41,554 --> 00:53:43,598
and Bob Dole does that.

1352
00:53:43,723 --> 00:53:46,309
That's not something
Bob Dole does.

1353
00:53:46,434 --> 00:53:47,519
- Jim was like the king

1354
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:48,478
in the cold open world.

1355
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,813
- Stay on the track.

1356
00:53:49,854 --> 00:53:51,314
Stay the course.

1357
00:53:51,398 --> 00:53:52,649
Thousand points of light.

1358
00:53:52,774 --> 00:53:54,025
[laughter]

1359
00:53:54,067 --> 00:53:55,902
- Governor Dukakis, rebuttal?

1360
00:53:55,985 --> 00:53:57,904
- I can't believe
I'm losing to this guy.

1361
00:53:57,987 --> 00:53:59,948
[laughter]

1362
00:53:59,989 --> 00:54:02,283
- Jim prided himself on
that he was

1363
00:54:02,367 --> 00:54:05,453
an impartial, uh, satirist.

1364
00:54:05,495 --> 00:54:08,206
- We did not feel
it was our job to have

1365
00:54:08,248 --> 00:54:09,374
a political point of view.

1366
00:54:09,541 --> 00:54:10,792
- There's no one I like.

1367
00:54:10,959 --> 00:54:13,169
I'm looking to make fun
of anything

1368
00:54:13,294 --> 00:54:14,629
that comes down the pike.

1369
00:54:14,754 --> 00:54:16,798
- This film,
"Independence Day,"

1370
00:54:16,881 --> 00:54:19,426
tells the story of a young,
idealistic,

1371
00:54:19,509 --> 00:54:22,721
compassionate president
who's facing a crisis.

1372
00:54:22,804 --> 00:54:25,181
Frustrated in his personal life

1373
00:54:25,306 --> 00:54:28,268
and unable to realize his
vision for the country

1374
00:54:28,351 --> 00:54:30,979
due to a hostile Congress.

1375
00:54:31,146 --> 00:54:33,940
But suddenly,
everything turns around

1376
00:54:33,982 --> 00:54:37,068
and he's able to achieve
true greatness

1377
00:54:37,110 --> 00:54:38,820
when aliens invade Earth

1378
00:54:38,987 --> 00:54:41,781
and a helicopter crash
kills his wife.

1379
00:54:41,865 --> 00:54:44,242
I love this movie.

1380
00:54:44,325 --> 00:54:45,702
- He kept me honest sometimes.

1381
00:54:45,744 --> 00:54:47,912
Sometimes I'd have an idea
that was a little

1382
00:54:47,954 --> 00:54:51,082
too undermined by sort of

1383
00:54:51,124 --> 00:54:52,667
how partisan it was
or something.

1384
00:54:52,834 --> 00:54:55,378
- I want to be around
for a long time,

1385
00:54:55,545 --> 00:54:56,671
on the job,

1386
00:54:56,755 --> 00:54:58,381
making the tough decisions,

1387
00:54:58,465 --> 00:55:00,258
24/7.

1388
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:02,302
That's 24 hours a week...

1389
00:55:02,385 --> 00:55:05,347
[laughter]

1390
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,311
Seven months a year.

1391
00:55:11,353 --> 00:55:13,188
- In the first five years
of the show,

1392
00:55:13,229 --> 00:55:15,148
I bet we opened
with a political piece

1393
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:17,150
maybe two or three times
a year.

1394
00:55:17,192 --> 00:55:19,903
- It became more urgent
in 2000.

1395
00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:24,991
These campaigns were
vulnerable to the swing voter.

1396
00:55:25,116 --> 00:55:27,452
They were trying
to get their hands on,

1397
00:55:27,494 --> 00:55:28,620
who is this guy, Gore?

1398
00:55:28,661 --> 00:55:30,038
Who is this guy, Bush?

1399
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,041
[applause]

1400
00:55:34,709 --> 00:55:37,921
Those performances,
and what you gave the actors

1401
00:55:38,004 --> 00:55:40,048
to do with those characters,

1402
00:55:40,131 --> 00:55:43,510
gave people a handle
on those characters

1403
00:55:43,593 --> 00:55:46,513
that they didn't have
before that night.

1404
00:55:46,596 --> 00:55:49,349
- I remember looking
at the script,

1405
00:55:49,391 --> 00:55:54,020
and I said, is that
as good as I think it is?

1406
00:55:54,104 --> 00:55:56,064
- Governor Bush,
you said the following.

1407
00:55:56,106 --> 00:55:58,775
Quote, "More seldom than not,
the movies

1408
00:55:58,942 --> 00:56:01,611
"gives us exquisite sex
and wholesome violence

1409
00:56:01,695 --> 00:56:03,488
"that underscores our values.

1410
00:56:03,655 --> 00:56:05,281
"Every two child did.

1411
00:56:05,365 --> 00:56:06,366
I will."

1412
00:56:06,449 --> 00:56:07,575
End quote.

1413
00:56:07,617 --> 00:56:09,202
[laughter]

1414
00:56:09,285 --> 00:56:10,870
What did you mean by that?

1415
00:56:10,954 --> 00:56:13,123
[laughter]

1416
00:56:13,248 --> 00:56:15,625
- [clears throat] Pass.

1417
00:56:15,667 --> 00:56:17,794
[laughter, applause]

1418
00:56:17,836 --> 00:56:21,881
- I'm just silently just
screaming with joy in my head,

1419
00:56:22,007 --> 00:56:25,176
oh, my God, he's--
he's literally

1420
00:56:25,218 --> 00:56:28,805
schooling the entire show on
how to write political comedy.

1421
00:56:28,930 --> 00:56:31,641
- Now, under my plan,
Etta's prescription drugs

1422
00:56:31,766 --> 00:56:33,143
would be covered.

1423
00:56:33,268 --> 00:56:35,437
Under my opponent's plan,

1424
00:56:35,478 --> 00:56:38,189
her house would be burned
to the ground,

1425
00:56:38,314 --> 00:56:40,191
and that is wrong.

1426
00:56:40,233 --> 00:56:42,902
- I believe that some of his
figures may be "in-ack-urate."

1427
00:56:42,986 --> 00:56:46,239
[laughter]

1428
00:56:46,281 --> 00:56:48,491
- We are almost out of time,
so I will instead

1429
00:56:48,616 --> 00:56:51,536
ask each candidate
to sum up in a single word

1430
00:56:51,578 --> 00:56:53,788
the best argument
for his candidacy.

1431
00:56:53,913 --> 00:56:55,832
Governor Bush?

1432
00:56:55,874 --> 00:56:57,417
- Strategery.

1433
00:56:57,500 --> 00:56:58,793
[laughter]

1434
00:56:58,918 --> 00:57:02,213
- The whole country was
saying strategery.

1435
00:57:02,255 --> 00:57:04,215
- The word strategery.

1436
00:57:04,299 --> 00:57:06,051
- It's become part
of the lexicon.

1437
00:57:06,092 --> 00:57:08,970
- As "The New York Times" put
it, the national consciousness.

1438
00:57:09,054 --> 00:57:10,263
- You know, I've always been

1439
00:57:10,305 --> 00:57:11,431
a big fan
of "Saturday Night Live."

1440
00:57:11,556 --> 00:57:13,266
- Clearly,
the candidates have taken

1441
00:57:13,350 --> 00:57:15,643
their appearances on
the late-night show seriously.

1442
00:57:15,769 --> 00:57:17,145
- Although I'm a big fan,
I have seen

1443
00:57:17,228 --> 00:57:18,396
some things on the show
I thought were,

1444
00:57:18,563 --> 00:57:20,398
in a word, offensible.

1445
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:25,528
- The most important political
writing of this election year.

1446
00:57:25,653 --> 00:57:27,364
- Jim, your reaction?

1447
00:57:27,447 --> 00:57:29,949
- Well, I'd like to hear more
from Lawrence in that vein.

1448
00:57:30,116 --> 00:57:31,910
I thought he was
on to something.

1449
00:57:32,035 --> 00:57:34,496
- And the thing you have to
know about the undecided voter

1450
00:57:34,621 --> 00:57:37,749
is that they don't consume
any information

1451
00:57:37,832 --> 00:57:39,334
from the political media.

1452
00:57:39,459 --> 00:57:40,460
- If they had,
they wouldn't be undecided--

1453
00:57:40,585 --> 00:57:42,420
- They do catch
things like this.

1454
00:57:42,462 --> 00:57:45,423
- We are America's
undecided voters.

1455
00:57:45,465 --> 00:57:47,217
Before you get our vote,

1456
00:57:47,342 --> 00:57:49,886
you're gonna have to answer
some questions.

1457
00:57:50,011 --> 00:57:51,554
- When is the election?

1458
00:57:51,638 --> 00:57:53,723
How soon do we have to decide?

1459
00:57:53,890 --> 00:57:56,685
- What are the names
of the two people running?

1460
00:57:56,768 --> 00:57:58,812
And be specific.

1461
00:57:58,937 --> 00:58:01,106
- Who is the president
right now?

1462
00:58:01,147 --> 00:58:03,108
Is he or she running?

1463
00:58:03,191 --> 00:58:05,235
- What happens
if the president dies?

1464
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,696
Has anyone thought about
who would replace him?

1465
00:58:07,779 --> 00:58:09,989
What's your plan, gentlemen?

1466
00:58:10,115 --> 00:58:13,493
- Somehow,
that set this pattern,

1467
00:58:13,618 --> 00:58:15,120
so that, ever since then,

1468
00:58:15,203 --> 00:58:16,663
whenever there's
an election year,

1469
00:58:16,746 --> 00:58:18,998
there's this sort of
expectation--

1470
00:58:19,082 --> 00:58:21,167
well, we have to have
debate pieces.

1471
00:58:21,209 --> 00:58:23,003
- So don't be telling me
that I'm part

1472
00:58:23,044 --> 00:58:24,796
of the Washington elite
because I come from

1473
00:58:24,879 --> 00:58:28,633
the absolute worst place
on Earth,

1474
00:58:28,675 --> 00:58:31,011
Scranton, Pennsylvania.

1475
00:58:31,094 --> 00:58:34,597
And Wilmington, Delaware's
not much better.

1476
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:35,890
- Governor Palin.

1477
00:58:36,016 --> 00:58:38,143
- Oh, are we not doing
the talent portion?

1478
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:40,395
[laughter, applause]

1479
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,231
- And it was becoming
this gigantic part.

1480
00:58:43,273 --> 00:58:45,650
- We'll work on you.
It's gonna take time.

1481
00:58:45,734 --> 00:58:47,944
[chuckles]
Maybe for four more years.

1482
00:58:47,986 --> 00:58:52,824
- Our politics has never
calmed down since 2000.

1483
00:58:52,991 --> 00:58:57,495
"SNL" became absolutely
mandatory in American politics

1484
00:58:57,662 --> 00:58:59,706
and is to this day.

1485
00:58:59,873 --> 00:59:02,083
[microphone feedback, applause]

1486
00:59:06,254 --> 00:59:09,007
[jazzy music]

1487
00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:11,801
- Your Honor, I'd like to say
something if I could, please.

1488
00:59:11,843 --> 00:59:14,012
- Excuse me, are you
a relative of the plaintiff?

1489
00:59:14,095 --> 00:59:15,347
- I am her mother.

1490
00:59:15,472 --> 00:59:17,807
[laughter]

1491
00:59:17,891 --> 00:59:19,142
- And what is your occupation?

1492
00:59:19,184 --> 00:59:21,061
- I am a barfly.

1493
00:59:21,144 --> 00:59:22,312
[laughter]

1494
00:59:22,354 --> 00:59:23,355
- I'm a barfly.

1495
00:59:23,438 --> 00:59:26,066
- I am a barfly.
- I am a barfly.

1496
00:59:26,191 --> 00:59:28,485
- And by that you mean
you loiter in bars

1497
00:59:28,526 --> 00:59:31,029
waiting for men you don't know
to buy you drinks?

1498
00:59:31,071 --> 00:59:32,280
- That is correct, Your Honor.

1499
00:59:32,322 --> 00:59:33,656
[laughter]

1500
00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:35,992
- Just hours ago,
it was made apparent to me

1501
00:59:36,034 --> 00:59:39,746
that I am not, as I have
long believed myself to be,

1502
00:59:39,871 --> 00:59:42,207
a licensed bikini inspector.

1503
00:59:42,332 --> 00:59:44,834
[laughter]

1504
00:59:44,918 --> 00:59:47,170
As experts have shown,

1505
00:59:47,253 --> 00:59:49,506
the official
bikini inspector license

1506
00:59:49,631 --> 00:59:52,550
upon which I base
this assertion is a forgery.

1507
00:59:52,634 --> 00:59:56,429
And indeed, no such
medical specialty exists.

1508
00:59:56,513 --> 00:59:58,264
To the hundreds
and hundreds of women

1509
00:59:58,348 --> 01:00:01,685
I may have wronged, albeit
with the best of intentions,

1510
01:00:01,810 --> 01:00:04,688
I can now only offer
my most sincere

1511
01:00:04,771 --> 01:00:06,981
and heartfelt apologies.

1512
01:00:07,107 --> 01:00:08,525
- This is a sidewalk costume.

1513
01:00:08,608 --> 01:00:10,068
- A sidewalk costume?

1514
01:00:10,151 --> 01:00:11,319
- Yeah. I mean, you know,

1515
01:00:11,361 --> 01:00:13,571
we don't recommend it
for blind kids.

1516
01:00:13,655 --> 01:00:15,281
I mean, you know, there's
a warning right on the label.

1517
01:00:15,448 --> 01:00:17,659
"Invisible Pedestrian,
not for blind kids."

1518
01:00:17,701 --> 01:00:18,952
[laughter]

1519
01:00:18,993 --> 01:00:20,328
- Did Bob Dole grow up
in Canada

1520
01:00:20,412 --> 01:00:22,247
in a small farm town?

1521
01:00:22,330 --> 01:00:24,457
Didn't have the prep school
education

1522
01:00:24,541 --> 01:00:26,626
or the sterling silverware,

1523
01:00:26,668 --> 01:00:28,878
or the bumper pool table
in the basement.

1524
01:00:28,962 --> 01:00:31,006
Didn't have the shower massage,

1525
01:00:31,131 --> 01:00:32,966
the five-way adjustable head.

1526
01:00:33,133 --> 01:00:35,552
- The deficit, like
many of our problems,

1527
01:00:35,635 --> 01:00:37,679
will ultimately be solved
if we can legalize

1528
01:00:37,762 --> 01:00:40,015
and federally fund
female circumcisions.

1529
01:00:40,098 --> 01:00:43,351
- Larry, please, let's hit
the fast-forward button,

1530
01:00:43,435 --> 01:00:46,229
because we've
heard this before.

1531
01:00:46,312 --> 01:00:48,773
See, now, folks,
we'd all like better schools,

1532
01:00:48,857 --> 01:00:51,693
less crime,
and female circumcision, right?

1533
01:00:51,776 --> 01:00:53,403
There's nothing better
in the world

1534
01:00:53,528 --> 01:00:55,739
than female circumcision.

1535
01:00:55,864 --> 01:00:58,908
But where is the money
gonna come from?

1536
01:00:58,992 --> 01:01:00,660
- I think you'll
really like Stu.

1537
01:01:00,702 --> 01:01:02,412
He's absolutely
the most sincere,

1538
01:01:02,454 --> 01:01:05,040
genuine, straightforward person
you'll ever want to meet.

1539
01:01:05,123 --> 01:01:06,875
A real honest guy.
- Mm.

1540
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,710
- What a jerk he is.

1541
01:01:08,793 --> 01:01:10,754
- Listen, we'll--
we'll talk quietly

1542
01:01:10,837 --> 01:01:12,339
so as not to disturb you, OK?

1543
01:01:12,422 --> 01:01:13,548
- Oh, you won't disturb me.

1544
01:01:13,631 --> 01:01:15,133
I'll be in my room
masturbating.

1545
01:01:15,216 --> 01:01:16,217
They won't disturb me.

1546
01:01:16,343 --> 01:01:17,844
I'll be masturbating.

1547
01:01:17,969 --> 01:01:20,305
- Live long...

1548
01:01:20,430 --> 01:01:22,682
[laughter]

1549
01:01:22,807 --> 01:01:24,017
And be happy.

1550
01:01:24,142 --> 01:01:27,187
[laughter, applause]

1551
01:01:27,228 --> 01:01:31,316
- This guy here
is the best writer

1552
01:01:31,399 --> 01:01:33,943
that I ever worked with
at "Saturday Night Live."

1553
01:01:33,985 --> 01:01:35,320
He's my friend.

1554
01:01:35,403 --> 01:01:38,073
And if anybody messes with him,

1555
01:01:38,198 --> 01:01:39,783
they're messing with me.

1556
01:01:39,824 --> 01:01:42,160
And they're messing, um,
with the local union here,

1557
01:01:42,285 --> 01:01:44,704
which I have, uh,
talked to about anything

1558
01:01:44,746 --> 01:01:46,373
that might happen here tonight.

1559
01:01:46,456 --> 01:01:49,292
[cacophonous piano melody]

1560
01:01:49,376 --> 01:01:52,462
* *

1561
01:01:52,545 --> 01:01:55,924
* Jaws *

1562
01:01:56,049 --> 01:01:58,843
- * Jaws, get away from me *

1563
01:01:58,927 --> 01:02:00,970
- * Get away from me *

1564
01:02:01,054 --> 01:02:04,516
* Jaws *

1565
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:07,185
- They had been fooling around
with this "Jaws" theme

1566
01:02:07,310 --> 01:02:09,187
since, like, 19--
since the movie came out.

1567
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:11,731
- It was just their running
bit, you know, for years.

1568
01:02:11,773 --> 01:02:14,693
- * You took and you made me *

1569
01:02:14,818 --> 01:02:16,736
* You made me *

1570
01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:20,407
* Made me part of you *

1571
01:02:20,448 --> 01:02:22,909
- * Made me a part of you *

1572
01:02:22,992 --> 01:02:25,620
- I remember
Maya in my hotel room,

1573
01:02:25,704 --> 01:02:27,914
and Downey on the phone
singing that,

1574
01:02:28,081 --> 01:02:30,333
and you and I are both
frantically writing.

1575
01:02:30,417 --> 01:02:31,751
And I'm up in the music thing

1576
01:02:31,835 --> 01:02:33,169
with Paul Shaffer.

1577
01:02:33,294 --> 01:02:34,754
I think Bill's gonna come.
We don't know.

1578
01:02:34,796 --> 01:02:37,007
And then here comes Bill in a--

1579
01:02:37,090 --> 01:02:39,259
literally in a Hawaiian shirt
or whatever.

1580
01:02:39,342 --> 01:02:41,011
And then we were on--on TV.

1581
01:02:41,052 --> 01:02:43,179
- By the way, we seem like
we're playing it cool.

1582
01:02:43,221 --> 01:02:45,974
But, like, these are the guys
we had boners for.

1583
01:02:46,099 --> 01:02:50,979
- * You bastard, Jaws! *

1584
01:02:51,062 --> 01:02:54,315
[cheers and applause]

1585
01:02:54,357 --> 01:02:56,568
- I have to believe
it's some kind of record

1586
01:02:56,651 --> 01:03:01,114
for the longest time
between the original idea

1587
01:03:01,197 --> 01:03:03,658
and the execution,

1588
01:03:03,742 --> 01:03:07,537
which would be 40 years,
just about.

1589
01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:09,581
[soft music]

1590
01:03:09,622 --> 01:03:12,167
- Jim is a brilliant artist,

1591
01:03:12,250 --> 01:03:16,421
and he's working
in this amazing medium

1592
01:03:16,463 --> 01:03:17,756
called sketch comedy,

1593
01:03:17,797 --> 01:03:20,759
and he's really defined it.

1594
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,305
- He could get a laugh from
the intro before the cold open.

1595
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:28,058
- A panel think tank nerds
excitedly discusses

1596
01:03:28,099 --> 01:03:30,185
some topic no one else
cares about, followed by

1597
01:03:30,268 --> 01:03:31,936
long, incoherent questions

1598
01:03:32,020 --> 01:03:33,813
from even nerdier members
of the audience.

1599
01:03:33,897 --> 01:03:35,273
- Like, those little,
like, jokes,

1600
01:03:35,315 --> 01:03:36,941
that is not easy to do.

1601
01:03:36,983 --> 01:03:38,568
Shout out to Jim Downey, man.

1602
01:03:38,610 --> 01:03:41,112
[laughter, applause]

1603
01:03:41,279 --> 01:03:43,740
- As a person
who loves the show

1604
01:03:43,782 --> 01:03:45,200
with my whole heart,

1605
01:03:45,241 --> 01:03:48,203
I want people to understand
who he is.

1606
01:03:48,244 --> 01:03:51,039
He's so much
a fabric of the show.

1607
01:03:51,164 --> 01:03:52,832
- Es Senor Eliot Ness!

1608
01:03:52,957 --> 01:03:56,252
- You know, we would say
when we'd write our movies--

1609
01:03:56,294 --> 01:03:58,630
this is fucking 10 years
after we left the show--

1610
01:03:58,797 --> 01:04:00,256
we'd be like...
[inhales sharply]

1611
01:04:00,382 --> 01:04:01,966
I think Downey would like that.

1612
01:04:02,050 --> 01:04:04,260
That's how fucking insane
we are with Downey.

1613
01:04:04,302 --> 01:04:06,054
Oh, yeah, all right.

1614
01:04:08,473 --> 01:04:10,225
[speaking gibberish]

1615
01:04:10,266 --> 01:04:11,810
[laughter]

1616
01:04:11,851 --> 01:04:14,437
[speaking gibberish]

1617
01:04:14,562 --> 01:04:17,315
* *

1618
01:04:17,399 --> 01:04:19,234
- I think comedy writers
in general,

1619
01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:21,403
for whatever reason,

1620
01:04:21,528 --> 01:04:25,990
they feel like the world is
a bit of a swindle and a lie,

1621
01:04:26,116 --> 01:04:28,910
and they want to point that out
and laugh at it.

1622
01:04:31,121 --> 01:04:34,290
Jim was so wonderful
at making comedy

1623
01:04:34,374 --> 01:04:37,794
out of the way
people relate to each other.

1624
01:04:37,919 --> 01:04:39,921
* *

1625
01:04:39,963 --> 01:04:42,340
The way they misunderstand
each other,

1626
01:04:42,465 --> 01:04:46,386
talk to each other,
conversational failings,

1627
01:04:46,469 --> 01:04:50,098
the depth it can go to
in revealing human behavior

1628
01:04:50,223 --> 01:04:53,226
is as deep as people can go.

1629
01:05:01,609 --> 01:05:03,945
Plus the two
with Dave Letterman.

1630
01:05:03,987 --> 01:05:07,240
I mean, I had three
or four separate careers

1631
01:05:07,323 --> 01:05:09,534
within "Saturday Night Live"
alone.

1632
01:05:13,621 --> 01:05:16,499
Along the way,
I became a father,

1633
01:05:16,666 --> 01:05:20,378
and just last February, on the
eve of the 50th anniversary,

1634
01:05:20,462 --> 01:05:22,339
a grandfather.

1635
01:05:22,422 --> 01:05:25,300
I met the love of my life
at this show.

1636
01:05:25,342 --> 01:05:28,011
That's how wired I am
to this place.

1637
01:05:28,094 --> 01:05:30,555
When I started here,
I was the youngest person

1638
01:05:30,597 --> 01:05:32,599
on the writing staff.

1639
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,602
And when I left,
much the oldest.

1640
01:05:35,685 --> 01:05:37,354
It's cool that, you know,

1641
01:05:37,437 --> 01:05:39,856
I was able to do it
as long as I did,

1642
01:05:39,898 --> 01:05:43,860
working with some of the
funniest people on the planet

1643
01:05:43,985 --> 01:05:46,321
and still make a contribution.

1644
01:05:46,404 --> 01:05:50,158
But at a certain point, you've
proved what you need to prove,

1645
01:05:50,241 --> 01:05:52,952
and it's time
to quietly step aside,

1646
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:56,289
and slip out the back way
unnoticed--

1647
01:05:56,414 --> 01:05:58,124
the Irish goodbye.

1648
01:06:01,795 --> 01:06:03,296
- Live from New York,
it's Saturday night!

1649
01:06:03,421 --> 01:06:05,131
- Ex-Lampooner Jim Downey

1650
01:06:05,256 --> 01:06:07,342
not only wrote for
"Saturday Night Live"

1651
01:06:07,467 --> 01:06:09,052
longer than anybody else,

1652
01:06:09,177 --> 01:06:11,763
he also created
this perennial list

1653
01:06:11,846 --> 01:06:13,223
read by David Letterman.

1654
01:06:13,390 --> 01:06:14,849
- What is the Top 10 List?

1655
01:06:14,933 --> 01:06:17,560
- I'm pretty sure,
with respect,

1656
01:06:17,644 --> 01:06:19,854
if there was some news
about Jeff Epstein,

1657
01:06:19,938 --> 01:06:20,855
I would have heard.

1658
01:06:20,939 --> 01:06:22,148
- I have to tell you,
he's gone.

1659
01:06:22,232 --> 01:06:23,149
He's dead.
- What do you mean?

1660
01:06:23,233 --> 01:06:24,067
- He's dead.
- He's dead?

1661
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:25,110
- He's dead.
- No.

1662
01:06:25,193 --> 01:06:27,112
[laughs] Sorry, nice try.



