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Hi, my name is Stormy Daniels,

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and I'm sure you've
heard of me by now.

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Official YIFY movies site:
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I'll be narrating
and you'll see me

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popping up in this
film from time to time.

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You may have
heard about my recent

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courtroom appearance in a case

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called The People of New
York versus Donald J. Trump.

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You see, Trump lied
about our sexual encounter.

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And then covered it up by
falsifying business records.

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In doing so,
he unlawfully influenced

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the 2016 presidential election.

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On May 30th, 2024,
Donald Trump was

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convicted of
committing 34 felonies.

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He's the first U.S. president

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ever convicted of a felony

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and not just 1, 34.

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Go big or go home, right?

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Justice can be a real bitch.

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Right now, I want to tell you
how Vladimir Putin

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also interfered
in the 2016 election,

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and how Donald
Trump keeps talking

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about a little something called

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'golden showers'.

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So come for the water sports
and stay for the collusion.

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(lounge music)

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And the whole
Russia investigation?

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It was all phony shit.

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Okay, all phony stuff.

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I'm not into golden showers!

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Yes, he actually said this.

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Wait, what? Nobody
even asked him.

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Not recently.

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Then why is his hair goldenrod?

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You know the great thing,

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our great first lady -

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That one, she said.

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I don't believe that one!

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Yes, he actually said this.

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So Melania believes
all the others?

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Like what?

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Like the ones
about about a goat.

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Goat?

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Just a rumor.

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So to recap, in conclusion,

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and furthermore,
I'm not into golden showers

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and even Melania
didn't believe that one.

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So anyway,
thanks for coming tonight.

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I love you people.

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And don't forget to empty
your wallets on the way out.

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So was that a one-off?

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Not exactly.

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And the phony Steele dossier?

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It was all phony.

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How'd you like to
be me and go home

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and explain that one to my wife?

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Darling, it wasn't true.

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I swear it wasn't.

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Remember that one with
the hookers from Russia.

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Russia, Russia, Russia?

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How about going home
to my wife on the shower,

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you know? The golden
shower they called it.

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And I had to explain
that to our great first lady.

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This is the greatest witch hunt.

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It started with Russia, Russia,
Russia. Remember that?

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He was with four hookers.

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You think that was good that
night to go up and tell my wife

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it's not true darling,
I love you very much.

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It's not true!

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Four hookers.
That's interesting

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since the rumor never
mentioned any number.

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Trump does protest too much.

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He keeps bringing
up the pee pee tape.

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(laughs)

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When other people
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about it, he brings it up again.

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The rumor is that there's actual

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video evidence
that this happened.

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So... I've not seen the video,
but I'd watch it.

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(jaunty music)

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In 2016, Donald Trump
defeated Hillary Clinton

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to win the White House.

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The Russians
interfered in that election

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on behalf of their
favored candidate,

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Donald Trump.

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In the phony Steele dossier.

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It was all phony.

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The Steele dossier was unvetted

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opposition research
compiled in 2016,

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and it included
explosive reports

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about Donald Trump
and the Russians.

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And the allegation of
a salacious videotape.

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Trump claims the investigation
into his campaign's

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many connections to Russia was
sparked by the Steele dossier.

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What do you say
we fact-check that?

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The idea that the
Russia investigation

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was based on the Steele dossier
is just categorically false.

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There's been much talk about a
man named Christopher Steele

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and a research product
that he put together,

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something that's been
called opposition research

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that happens all
the time at high

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levels when there's an election.

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People, candidates
looking for so-called dirt,

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looking to understand
vulnerabilities

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of the opposition candidate.

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So Chris Steele is a former
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He was respected.

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He was a Russian specialist

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within the British
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And that Steele put things

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in his research product
that were not substantiated

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or confirmed or accurate, has
been used by Donald Trump

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and his supporters to say that
therefore, the FBI investigation

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that predicated
the special counsel

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investigation, all
has to get thrown out.

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And what's been
found is the contrary.

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It is a fallacy to say that
if you successfully attack

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the Christopher Steele dossier,

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you somehow have
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the predication for the FBI

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investigation and
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special counsel investigation.

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The truth is that
that's not what

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led to those investigations.

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So the investigation was opened

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at the end of July,
based on this

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tip from a friendly
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Later in mid-September, I think

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19th,
if memory serves correctly,

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we received a body of
information, a series of reports

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that had been generated by an

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individual named
Christopher Steele.

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Now, again,
the important fact is that's

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not what generated
the investigation.

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The investigation
was up and running.

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The bulk of Mueller's

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efforts and prosecutions
made no use

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of the Steele
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This is somebody

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that had had an established

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relationship and had
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So having that
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again, it's a very
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I think, for the FBI to take
a look at and say, all right,

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you're providing
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We'll take a look at it
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whether or not it's accurate
and actionable or not.

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My opinion on the
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that it's valuable
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just as if we obtained
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about a terrorist group,
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from sources
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We'd want the FBI
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community to follow up to see

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what is actually true or not,

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what might be borne out
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And I think that that's what the
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In January of 2017, BuzzFeed

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published the
Steele dossier online.

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This is the greatest witch hunt.

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It started with Russia,
Russia, Russia.

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Remember that?

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All counterintelligence
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require what's
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And what that
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have to be articulable facts

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that there is a threat
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And the predication in the
case of the Russia investigation

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was intelligence provided to
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indicating that Russia might be

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trying to use
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in order to interfere
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In the midst of
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a friendly foreign
government saw,

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and certainly former
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candidate Trump,
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pointing to this activity and
talking about all the things

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that were being disclosed
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And in the midst
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in late July,
a friendly foreign nation

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recalled a meeting that they
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with a Trump
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a named campaign
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and whose name was
George Papadopoulos,

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and that Papadopoulos had told

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this representative of
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that the Trump
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offer of assistance
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saying that they had information
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then President Obama and Hillary
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to release it in a way that
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they didn't make
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didn't know whether or
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But then when that
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when this information that was

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helpful to Trump
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and Trump was picking it up
and amplifying it, they recalled

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and put two and two
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well, wait a minute,
what is going on

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now is exactly what
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The case that was open,
we called Crossfire Hurricane

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and I'm a big
Rolling Stones fan,

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and so I was listening to
Jumpin' Jack Flash at the time.

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♪ I was born in a
crossfire hurricane ♪

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And that was, you know,
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I was trying to
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name the case,
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I didn't understand
how appropriate

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it would really end up being.

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of the moment
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And again, the case was opened,
not on just George Papadopoulos,

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but broadly on the suggestion,
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I received this information.

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He said somebody
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So the question was, you know,
it's what's called that,

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you know, an unknown subject. We
don't know one, if that's true,

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but you know, it

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given that Papadopoulos
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advisor to Trump,
you know, Trump himself

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named him when he was asked,
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know who's on your
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Trump identified Papadopoulos.

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This wasn't despite
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that, you know, Papadopoulos
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The fact of the matter was,
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by, I think,
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who is your foreign policy team?

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Trump reeled off
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which included
George Papadopoulos.

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If you want, I could give
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I would be delighted.

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George Papadopoulos.

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He's an oil and
energy consultant.

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Excellent guy.

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So opening the case,
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the goal of that investigation

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was to figure out okay, did
in fact, this offer take place?

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Who received that offer?

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And then, as importantly,
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did anybody on the
campaign then take action

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to follow up on that
offer of assistance?

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A lot of people, you know,
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popular discussion,
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opponents of the investigation,

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was that the FBI
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and that absolutely
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We opened this very
specific case on this one

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particular allegation to find
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that might have
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or offer of assistance or not.

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All of these things kind
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he takes that affirmative
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certainly in a way
that is designed

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or appears to be designed,
to stop these investigations.

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So, two things happen.

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One, that is, you know,
a very strong indication

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or an allegation of obstruction,

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that he was doing
that potentially

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in a manner designed to obstruct
the investigation of him.

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And then two,
that gives a question,

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because all of this
related to Russia,

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what is the counterintelligence
threat there

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between
Trump and Russia?

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And of course, what's one
of the first things he did?

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He has Ambassador Kislyak,
Russian ambassador,

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he has Sergey
Lavrov,at the time,

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the Russian foreign minister,

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in the Oval Office,
and is bragging to them,

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I just fired Comey. Took a
huge weight off my shoulders.

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There are a lot of connections
to Russia that were concerning,

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and there was sort
of an ongoing debate.

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I mean, you get to a
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threshold to open
a case is fairly low.

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That doesn't mean
you necessarily open it.

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And there were
some on the team that

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were arguing that we should open

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a case on Trump earlier
than we did,

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earlier than Comey's firing.

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You know, I was against it.

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I mean, there any
number of real significant

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policy questions,
legal questions,

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constitutional questions.

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And so for all of those reasons,
I was very hesitant and reticent

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to go down the path of opening
the case on Trump, the person.

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The firing of

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FBI Director James Comey led to

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the appointment
of Robert Mueller

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as special counsel to lead
the Russia investigation.

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The Mueller team found

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that Russia's operations were
systematic and widespread.

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So Russian interference
and attempts to aid

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candidate Donald Trump
have been well-established.

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If people will simply read

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and open their minds to
certain findings, both in

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Robert Mueller’s special counsel
report, 400 some odd pages,

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and then even in the Senate
Intelligence Committee report,

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which at the time was
chaired by a Republican.

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So in 2016,
the United States was pretty

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much asleep to the
fact that the Russians

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were using
disinformation as a weapon

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to sow discord and polarization.

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So the Russians
really had free rein to

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do what they wanted
in the United States.

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And they went about it a
couple of different ways.

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Their biggest campaign
was through social media,

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to mask their social
media accounts

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as trying to be
Americans. The I.R.A.

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or the Russian
proxy organization

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was prominent in that space,
running

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bots and trolls to kind of suck

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in Americans to their point of
view and enhance polarization.

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So one is social media campaign.

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The second is they were doing
hack and release operations.

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So if you've ever
heard of Guccifer

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2.0, that is a Russian
hacking operation

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by the GRU to grab
information and selectively

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leak it again to
enhance polarization

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within the United States.

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And lastly, they were
hacking into voter databases

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and gathering huge
amounts of data rolls.

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There was concern at the
time that that information

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was going to be
used to actually disrupt

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the physical
infrastructure of the vote.

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People would claim

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that there was no really Russian
influence operations in 2016.

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That I find to be astounding,
that people would repeat that.

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For a while, people and still do

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say that there was
no impact, right?

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Like you cannot prove

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that the Russians
changed a vote or

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someone's mind
in the United States.

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I think as kind of the research
behind this has continued,

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and people have looked at
this and serious professionals,

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I think, across whether they're
in government, academia

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or the private sector,
no longer believe

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that this is not
a serious threat.

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And it was a serious
threat in 2016.

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And the Russian
influence operations

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have some level of influence

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within the United States.

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And so the special
counsel investigation

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actually ended up indicting
two dozen Russians.

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Twelve of those
Russians were actual

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card-carrying
Russian intelligence

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officers with the
Russian military

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intelligence service, the GRU.

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Well, good afternoon.

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Today, a grand jury in
the District of Columbia

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returned an indictment presented
by the special counsel's office.

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The indictment charges 12

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Russian military
officers by name

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for conspiring to interfere with
the 2016 presidential election.

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Eleven of the defendants

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are charged with conspiring
to hack into computers,

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steal documents,
and release those documents

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with the intent to
interfere in the election.

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One of those defendants and
a 12th Russian military officer

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are charged with conspiring
to infiltrate computers

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of organizations involved
in administering elections.

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So when people say,
to me, well, the Russian,

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the investigation
into Russian influence

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in the campaign found nothing,

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I say you haven't
read the reports.

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You're listening only to one
source of news and information,

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and it's a flawed source
of news and information.

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The Internet Research Agency is

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located in Saint Petersburg,
Russia.

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(tense music)

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And they spent
millions before 2016

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through 2016 and
quite frankly,

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have reconstituted
themselves twice over

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really the same organization
still within Saint Petersburg.

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And so pre-2016,

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they ran a notorious and
well-documented troll farm

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where they were basically
paying employees to,

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they had a quota
system where they had to,

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put out so many tweets
and other kind of posts

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from a kind of select
menu that were all designed

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of things that they
were looking to cause

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polarization in the
United States, right?

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And the people that are really
behind it, which is the GRU

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and oligarchs that
help set this up,

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they're all still operating
there largely with impunity.

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And they really
have never stopped.

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Sometimes they’ve
moved their operations,

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or at least it appeared so,
outside of Russia,

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and they set up
in third countries.

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But this is a,

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this is a low cost
way that they don’t

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feel much pain from
the United States

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or the international community

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as to why to stop.
So they don't.

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So that's why they're
back in Saint Petersburg

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and they just keep
changing their names.

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There's been some
some great journalistic

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work that's come out recently.

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According to a New York Times
article just came out recently,

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you know, the Russians spent
about 300 million since 2014.

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Russia, if you're listening,
I hope you're able to find

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the 30,000 emails
that are missing.

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I think you will probably be
rewarded mightily by our press.

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Wikileaks.
Wikileaks. Wikileaks.

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It just came out on Wikileaks.

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What we know

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is that the Russian
intelligence service,

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and again, documented
through indictments

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through both the Senate
Intelligence Committee reporting

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and the special
counsel reporting, and

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indictments,
the Russian intelligence

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service went about getting
their hands on emails

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out of servers at the Democratic
National Committee headquarters,

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emails between Hillary Clinton
and other campaign officials.

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And then those very emails in
the possession of the Russian

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intelligence service ended up

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in the hands of an
organization called Wikileaks.

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Wikileaks was an organization

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that, connected to
Julian Assange,

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who started out as sort of
an information clearinghouse

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is how they styled themselves,

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where people who
are whistleblowers

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or information that had been,
you know, obtained, stolen,

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you know, turned over
by a whistleblower

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that, you know,
allegedly to point

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the public eye at alleged
malfeasance or bad acts

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by various governments,
that they would

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serve as a
clearinghouse for that.

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But having said that,
they ended up publishing

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a great deal of information that
was stolen by Russian actors.

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The question of
how stolen emails,

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hacked emails and communications

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ended up going from the
Russian intelligence service

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to Wikileaks

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and then ultimately distributed
by Wikileaks, in perfect

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timing to aid Donald
Trump at key times,

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is a fascinating story
and fascinating question.

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But we know that someone
by the name of Roger Stone,

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very close advisor,
associate of the president,

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appeared to have knowledge,
claimed himself

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to have knowledge of
what Wikileaks was doing.

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Even Donald Trump Jr
appeared to have contact

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with and knowledge of
what Wikileaks was doing.

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We even have a report -

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this is coming from the
Mueller investigation - that

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an associate of Donald Trump
is riding with Donald Trump.

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Rick, this is Rick Gates,
they're riding in a limo

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to LaGuardia Airport.

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Donald Trump takes a phone call

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and Gates can hear that

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end of the call.

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Trump hangs up,

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and Trump says
something like this to Gates:

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there's going to
be another release.

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You know, there's going to
be another Wikileaks release.

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Now, it's believed
that the person on the

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other end of that
phone was Roger Stone,

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conveying to Donald Trump

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that Wikileaks was
about to release

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another tranche of
stolen communications

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- stolen by the Russian
intelligence service,

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acquired by Wikileaks -

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and that this was going
to aid the campaign.

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And the absurd thing is Trump at
some point in time said, well,

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I have no idea what
Wikileaks is, which is,

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you know, again, you go
back and you look at the tapes

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of his campaign events
again and again and again,

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he was talking about how
magnificent Wikileaks is,

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and they're wonderful,
and the truth is coming out.

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Do you still love Wikileaks?

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I know nothing about Wikileaks.

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It's not my thing.

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Various news organizations noted
how absurd Trump's claim was.

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Wikileaks! Wikileaks!
I love Wikileaks!

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These Wikileaks.

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It's been amazing what's
coming out on Wikileaks.

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The wonder of Wikileaks.

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Wikileaks has done a job on her,
hasn't it?

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We love Wikileaks.

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Boy, they have really...
Wikileaks.

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Wikileaks. Wikileaks.

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The Wikileaks
revelations. Wikileaks.

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Wikileaks. Right?
Wikileaks.

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This Wikileaks is
like a treasure trove.

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And so it's clear,
one, that he was well

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aware of Wikileaks,
that he was pushing it.

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And again, not just pushing

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Wikileaks,
he is pushing information

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about his opponent that had been

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stolen by a hostile
foreign nation.

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And then it had been
provided ultimately

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to Wikileaks,
who was publishing it.

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So he essentially is not only
pointing to the stolen material,

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but encouraging this
action by a hostile state actor

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to help himself get elected.

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Do you still love Wikileaks?

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I know nothing about Wikileaks.

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It's not my thing.

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It's not my deal in life.

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Alright, so after our
long national nightmare,

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my handpicked attorney
general says I'm in the clear.

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That's right.

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No collusion. None. Zippo.

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Zilch. Nada.

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00:21:40,715 --> 00:21:43,343
Barr says it's right there
in the Mueller report.

509
00:21:43,343 --> 00:21:45,178
Couple of years,
thousands of pages.

510
00:21:45,178 --> 00:21:47,847
Guy reads it over the
weekend. Gotta love him.

511
00:21:47,847 --> 00:21:49,015
No collusion.

512
00:21:49,015 --> 00:21:50,943
If by collusion,
you mean me writing

513
00:21:50,955 --> 00:21:52,894
code for Russian
government hackers.

514
00:21:52,894 --> 00:21:55,396
Didn't happen. Just ask Mueller.

515
00:21:55,396 --> 00:22:00,041
This is all been one big witch
hunt that has turned up nothing.

516
00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:01,879
Except my campaign chair,

517
00:22:01,904 --> 00:22:03,755
personal lawyer,
deputy campaign chair,

518
00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:05,049
national security adviser,

519
00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:06,743
foreign policy advisor,
strategists

520
00:22:06,781 --> 00:22:08,493
and a couple dozen Russians.

521
00:22:08,493 --> 00:22:10,828
But other than that, nothing!

522
00:22:10,828 --> 00:22:12,867
Now I can get back
to work and shoot

523
00:22:12,879 --> 00:22:15,041
someone in the
middle of Fifth Avenue.

524
00:22:15,291 --> 00:22:18,524
Robert Mueller found
multiple instances

525
00:22:18,536 --> 00:22:21,214
of collusion, but he didn't find

526
00:22:21,214 --> 00:22:25,802
that they rose to the definition
of a criminal conspiracy.

527
00:22:25,969 --> 00:22:28,555
And this distinction
is very important.

528
00:22:28,555 --> 00:22:32,308
Collusion doesn't
have a legal meaning

529
00:22:32,308 --> 00:22:36,521
outside of very specific
arenas like antitrust law.

530
00:22:36,552 --> 00:22:39,138
But what we think of
when we think of collusion

531
00:22:39,275 --> 00:22:41,543
is secret contacts.

532
00:22:41,568 --> 00:22:46,906
An agreement to engage
in sort of a covert behavior

533
00:22:46,906 --> 00:22:49,533
to a mutually desired outcome.

534
00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:53,162
Criminal conspiracy
is a much higher bar.

535
00:22:53,162 --> 00:22:55,844
It requires an
explicit agreement,

536
00:22:55,869 --> 00:22:56,874
which you normally wouldn't

537
00:22:56,874 --> 00:22:59,255
find in an
intelligence operation

538
00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:02,362
to commit an underlying crime.

539
00:23:02,505 --> 00:23:06,301
And on this front,
it became very difficult,

540
00:23:06,301 --> 00:23:10,555
given both the nature of the
contacts that were happening and

541
00:23:10,555 --> 00:23:12,792
also the fact that
there was obstruction

542
00:23:12,804 --> 00:23:14,559
involved in this investigation,

543
00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:17,562
for Mueller to really reach that

544
00:23:17,562 --> 00:23:21,482
high threshold for a
criminal indictment.

545
00:23:21,482 --> 00:23:24,611
When you are looking at
counterintelligence operations,

546
00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:26,874
not everything that a foreign

547
00:23:26,886 --> 00:23:29,866
adversary is doing
might be a crime.

548
00:23:29,866 --> 00:23:31,337
But that doesn't mean that it's

549
00:23:31,349 --> 00:23:33,119
not dangerous to
national security.

550
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,956
And so, yes,
the level of contacts,

551
00:23:36,956 --> 00:23:41,419
information sharing
and coordination between

552
00:23:41,419 --> 00:23:43,388
Russia and members
of the Trump campaign

553
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,381
were dangerous to
our national security.

554
00:23:45,381 --> 00:23:48,326
But by looking at
it only through this

555
00:23:48,338 --> 00:23:51,220
criminal lens,
we essentially created

556
00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:54,474
an out for people
to claim that this was

557
00:23:54,474 --> 00:23:57,101
not actually dangerous behavior.

558
00:23:57,101 --> 00:23:59,312
With a so-called
four page summary,

559
00:23:59,312 --> 00:24:03,816
he held a press conference so
that he could shape the report.

560
00:24:03,816 --> 00:24:07,737
And if you really pick
apart every word and line

561
00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:11,157
in that four page summary
and in that press conference,

562
00:24:11,157 --> 00:24:14,410
you've got an attorney
general who is deceiving

563
00:24:14,410 --> 00:24:16,457
the United States
about a special

564
00:24:16,469 --> 00:24:18,831
counsel investigation
and the results.

565
00:24:18,831 --> 00:24:22,293
So, for example,
he claimed in that summary that

566
00:24:22,293 --> 00:24:26,422
there was no collusion
found with Russia.

567
00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:28,591
Well,
that's simply not the case.

568
00:24:28,591 --> 00:24:31,299
The truth is that
Bob Mueller did not

569
00:24:31,311 --> 00:24:34,490
find something called
criminal conspiracy, right?

570
00:24:34,515 --> 00:24:36,847
The ability
to say this candidate

571
00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:39,185
knew precisely
that he was dealing

572
00:24:39,185 --> 00:24:42,588
with the Russian
government and broke

573
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,566
a violation and violated US laws

574
00:24:45,566 --> 00:24:49,278
in a large conspiracy
involving others.

575
00:24:49,278 --> 00:24:52,281
True,
criminal conspiracy not found,

576
00:24:52,281 --> 00:24:56,119
but collusion with
Russia was rampant.

577
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,040
And there's a hundred
or more contacts

578
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,951
that were found
between his campaign

579
00:25:03,963 --> 00:25:06,254
staff and Russian officials,

580
00:25:06,254 --> 00:25:09,257
or people representing
Russian interests.

581
00:25:09,465 --> 00:25:12,510
A hundred or more contacts.

582
00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:14,512
That is collusion,

583
00:25:14,512 --> 00:25:17,098
even though it may not
be criminal conspiracy.

584
00:25:17,098 --> 00:25:18,601
I think the most
important takeaway from

585
00:25:18,613 --> 00:25:20,017
everything that
happened with Mueller

586
00:25:20,017 --> 00:25:22,049
is the broad scope of activity,

587
00:25:22,143 --> 00:25:24,313
illegal activity that
occurred on the one

588
00:25:24,313 --> 00:25:26,014
hand by the government
of Russia and

589
00:25:26,026 --> 00:25:27,692
agents of the
government of Russia.

590
00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:30,862
You know, indictments against
the Internet Research Agency

591
00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:32,822
and several of the
players in and around that.

592
00:25:32,822 --> 00:25:36,993
But then also, when you look at
the people in and around Trump's

593
00:25:36,993 --> 00:25:41,372
circle, both as a candidate
and then later as the president.

594
00:25:41,372 --> 00:25:43,728
There were guilty
pleas and convictions

595
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:45,752
of his national
security adviser,

596
00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:49,217
his campaign manager,
his deputy campaign manager,

597
00:25:49,298 --> 00:25:52,928
his informal fixer,
his personal attorney and the

598
00:25:52,947 --> 00:25:55,094
list just goes, you know,
a foreign policy advisor.

599
00:25:55,094 --> 00:25:56,888
The list goes on and on and on.

600
00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:58,931
And these weren't allegations.

601
00:25:58,931 --> 00:26:01,058
These were people
who broke the law.

602
00:26:01,058 --> 00:26:04,687
Charges were brought and
were found or pled guilty.

603
00:26:04,687 --> 00:26:06,606
So there's no question,
there's no ambiguity.

604
00:26:06,606 --> 00:26:07,940
These people got
up and said yes.

605
00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:09,576
At some point in time,
they were either

606
00:26:09,588 --> 00:26:11,235
convicted or pled
guilty to saying yes,

607
00:26:11,235 --> 00:26:13,434
I violated the
law. And all these

608
00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:15,656
things in some way,
shape or form

609
00:26:15,656 --> 00:26:17,446
had elements
involving connections

610
00:26:17,458 --> 00:26:18,951
to the government of Russia.

611
00:26:18,951 --> 00:26:20,259
You know,
certainly there are the

612
00:26:20,271 --> 00:26:21,746
actions of one,
you know, an attorney

613
00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:24,957
in the FBI who had changed
an email in the course of,

614
00:26:24,957 --> 00:26:26,617
you know,
pursuing one particular

615
00:26:26,629 --> 00:26:28,252
FISA with regard to Carter Page.

616
00:26:28,252 --> 00:26:29,946
But again,
Carter Page was a tiny

617
00:26:29,958 --> 00:26:31,464
little sliver of all of this.

618
00:26:31,464 --> 00:26:35,885
All these broad looks
conclusively determined,

619
00:26:35,885 --> 00:26:40,056
even by partisan actors,
trying to find information,

620
00:26:40,056 --> 00:26:43,351
came up with no evidence
that there was something that

621
00:26:43,351 --> 00:26:46,646
was improper in the context
of any of these investigations.

622
00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:49,524
Bill Barr is a liar,
and I don't say that lightly.

623
00:26:49,524 --> 00:26:51,776
I grew up as a lawyer.
Now I'm in media.

624
00:26:51,776 --> 00:26:53,736
You don't lightly
call someone a liar.

625
00:26:53,736 --> 00:26:56,614
Maybe you say it nicer. You
say he misstated the truth.

626
00:26:56,614 --> 00:26:58,658
But when I went
through Bill Barr's record,

627
00:26:58,658 --> 00:27:00,815
there were so many
instances of him

628
00:27:00,827 --> 00:27:02,995
not just sort of
fudging the truth.

629
00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:04,288
Yes, there were plenty of those.

630
00:27:04,288 --> 00:27:07,625
Or coming up with
implausible explanations,

631
00:27:07,625 --> 00:27:10,061
but just outright
lying to Congress,

632
00:27:10,073 --> 00:27:12,588
to the media,
to the American public.

633
00:27:12,588 --> 00:27:13,714
And I couldn't ignore it.

634
00:27:13,714 --> 00:27:17,051
And so I felt like, this was
one of those extreme situations

635
00:27:17,051 --> 00:27:19,178
where it was merited
to call somebody a liar.

636
00:27:19,178 --> 00:27:22,181
Barr announced that
there was no collusion

637
00:27:22,181 --> 00:27:23,766
and that Mueller
had found the same.

638
00:27:23,766 --> 00:27:25,351
But Mueller says in the report

639
00:27:25,351 --> 00:27:27,478
collusion isn't a term
I'm concerned with.

640
00:27:27,478 --> 00:27:29,939
It's not a legal term.
It's not a criminal term.

641
00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:33,526
So the same way Mueller
found there was no collusion,

642
00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:35,736
the same way Mueller found
there was no flying elephants.

643
00:27:35,736 --> 00:27:37,697
I mean,
it didn't matter either way.

644
00:27:37,697 --> 00:27:39,784
And so Bill Barr,
not only did he

645
00:27:39,796 --> 00:27:42,451
dishonestly characterize
Mueller's report,

646
00:27:42,451 --> 00:27:45,087
he strategically and
deviously manipulated

647
00:27:45,099 --> 00:27:47,623
the timing of the
release of the report.

648
00:27:47,623 --> 00:27:49,500
I'll tell you a few things
that we would have known

649
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,795
if Barr had released
Mueller's summaries.

650
00:27:52,795 --> 00:27:54,839
First of all,
we would have known that

651
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,384
the Russians committed crimes
to interfere with the election.

652
00:27:58,384 --> 00:28:01,512
That they did it in order
to help Donald Trump win.

653
00:28:01,512 --> 00:28:04,390
That Donald Trump's team
knew about these efforts,

654
00:28:04,390 --> 00:28:06,491
and that Donald
Trump's team expected

655
00:28:06,503 --> 00:28:08,227
to benefit from those efforts.

656
00:28:08,227 --> 00:28:11,105
So people can argue all day
about was there collusion?

657
00:28:11,105 --> 00:28:12,231
Was there not collusion?

658
00:28:12,231 --> 00:28:13,232
People disagree.

659
00:28:13,232 --> 00:28:16,110
But those facts
are indisputable.

660
00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:17,612
The Russians committed crimes.

661
00:28:17,612 --> 00:28:19,822
They did it because
they wanted Trump to win.

662
00:28:19,822 --> 00:28:21,393
The Trump campaign
knew about it and

663
00:28:21,405 --> 00:28:23,117
the Trump campaign
expected to benefit.

664
00:28:23,117 --> 00:28:24,535
And I would add

665
00:28:24,535 --> 00:28:25,703
the Trump campaign

666
00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:27,640
engaged in dozens of efforts to

667
00:28:27,652 --> 00:28:30,041
establish contact
with the Russians.

668
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,329
So Bill Barr, in his four pager,

669
00:28:32,354 --> 00:28:34,288
not only did he characterize

670
00:28:34,312 --> 00:28:36,088
Mueller's report,
but he also threw

671
00:28:36,088 --> 00:28:38,147
in a conclusion of his own,
which was

672
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:40,176
there was no
obstruction of justice.

673
00:28:40,176 --> 00:28:43,137
I think Bill Barr was
wildly incorrect in this.

674
00:28:43,137 --> 00:28:47,058
A thousand plus former federal
prosecutors, including me,

675
00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:49,894
signed a letter saying
this should be obstruction.

676
00:28:49,894 --> 00:28:53,481
The evidence here is more
than sufficient for obstruction.

677
00:28:53,481 --> 00:28:55,566
Barr just sort of waved it away.

678
00:28:55,566 --> 00:28:58,736
Barr said, well,
for one thing,

679
00:28:58,736 --> 00:29:00,670
it's unusual to have obstruction

680
00:29:00,682 --> 00:29:03,115
unless you have
some underlying crime.

681
00:29:03,115 --> 00:29:04,075
That's just nonsense.

682
00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:06,035
I mean, by Barr's reasoning,
if you were really,

683
00:29:06,035 --> 00:29:07,606
really good at
obstructing justice, you

684
00:29:07,618 --> 00:29:09,121
could never get
charged with anything

685
00:29:09,121 --> 00:29:11,165
because you can never
charge the underlying crime.

686
00:29:11,165 --> 00:29:13,793
So why wasn't Trump
charged with any crimes?

687
00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:16,148
The problem for
Mueller is that there

688
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,589
is an internal Office
of Legal Counsel

689
00:29:18,589 --> 00:29:23,135
memorandum in the Department
of Justice, which makes it

690
00:29:23,135 --> 00:29:25,133
a Department of Justice policy

691
00:29:25,145 --> 00:29:27,556
not to indict a
sitting president.

692
00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:31,185
He felt that to make such
an accusation in his report,

693
00:29:31,185 --> 00:29:33,305
if it wasn't going
to be followed up

694
00:29:33,317 --> 00:29:35,564
with an actual
indictment and a trial,

695
00:29:35,564 --> 00:29:39,568
would deprive Trump of the
opportunity to clear his name.

696
00:29:39,568 --> 00:29:41,529
In other words,
it would be unfair to him.

697
00:29:41,529 --> 00:29:45,574
It would create a cloud of
suspicion and stigma over him.

698
00:29:45,574 --> 00:29:49,704
He left his findings
inconclusive, but noted that

699
00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:53,666
Trump could be charged
once he left office.

700
00:29:53,666 --> 00:29:56,961
One of the ironies
of the Mueller report

701
00:29:56,961 --> 00:30:00,089
is that volume one

702
00:30:00,089 --> 00:30:02,925
isn't able to find
enough evidence

703
00:30:02,925 --> 00:30:06,762
sufficient to be able to
charge a criminal conspiracy.

704
00:30:06,762 --> 00:30:11,475
However, that's partly because
of what we find in volume two,

705
00:30:11,475 --> 00:30:14,770
which is the efforts to
obstruct the investigation.

706
00:30:14,770 --> 00:30:18,858
And so both of these
parts of the report

707
00:30:18,858 --> 00:30:21,986
form one big picture of both

708
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:25,281
the coordinated efforts between
the Trump campaign and Russia

709
00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:27,288
and their efforts
to undermine the

710
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,893
investigation into
that interference.

711
00:30:30,207 --> 00:30:31,247
(tense music)

712
00:30:41,672 --> 00:30:43,340
One of Donald Trump's

713
00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:45,943
big talking points
towards the latter

714
00:30:45,955 --> 00:30:48,846
phases of the Mueller
report and after

715
00:30:48,846 --> 00:30:51,036
Mueller was done,
was investigate the

716
00:30:51,048 --> 00:30:53,309
investigators. It's
revenge time now.

717
00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:57,605
And that's where John
Durham became special counsel.

718
00:30:57,605 --> 00:31:00,816
Bill Barr tapped John
Durham to do just that.

719
00:31:00,816 --> 00:31:02,207
And by the way, John Durham's

720
00:31:02,219 --> 00:31:04,153
investigation has
now taken way longer

721
00:31:04,153 --> 00:31:07,865
than Mueller's investigation
and yielded far, far less.

722
00:31:07,865 --> 00:31:09,241
And so this was Barr

723
00:31:09,241 --> 00:31:12,495
engaging and facilitating Donald
Trump's revenge fantasies.

724
00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:14,798
And, frankly, Bill Barr's
own revenge fantasies,

725
00:31:14,810 --> 00:31:17,124
because Bill Barr has said

726
00:31:17,124 --> 00:31:18,754
he was always from before he

727
00:31:18,766 --> 00:31:20,878
became attorney general,
skeptical

728
00:31:20,878 --> 00:31:24,215
of and more of Bob
Mueller's investigation.

729
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:27,927
But he has since, Bill
Barr calls it Russiagate

730
00:31:27,927 --> 00:31:31,347
and the Russia hoax, and
he is very aggressive about it.

731
00:31:31,347 --> 00:31:34,975
Well, appointing John Durham
to investigate the investigators

732
00:31:34,975 --> 00:31:37,797
was the ultimate
act of retribution

733
00:31:37,809 --> 00:31:39,855
and of political revenge.

734
00:31:39,855 --> 00:31:41,504
Of course,
it's completely backfired

735
00:31:41,516 --> 00:31:42,817
because John Durham has been

736
00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:45,945
a massive dud and a
massive embarrassment.

737
00:31:45,945 --> 00:31:48,989
You already had three
separate reports concluding that

738
00:31:48,989 --> 00:31:50,718
Bob Mueller's
investigation was not

739
00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:52,326
just appropriate, but necessary.

740
00:31:52,326 --> 00:31:54,662
You had the Inspector
General of DOJ.

741
00:31:54,662 --> 00:31:58,207
You had Mueller himself, and
you had a Republican-led Senate

742
00:31:58,207 --> 00:32:00,385
committee,
all of which said not just

743
00:32:00,397 --> 00:32:02,586
it was appropriate
for Robert Mueller

744
00:32:02,586 --> 00:32:04,039
to investigate Russian

745
00:32:04,051 --> 00:32:06,632
interference,
but it was necessary.

746
00:32:06,632 --> 00:32:09,218
It would have been
malpractice not to.

747
00:32:09,218 --> 00:32:11,720
Robert Mueller did not
run a perfect investigation.

748
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,598
To be sure, there were
faults in the investigation.

749
00:32:14,598 --> 00:32:16,392
The Inspector
General found this.

750
00:32:16,392 --> 00:32:19,520
I mean, you had texts,
internal texts, most infamously,

751
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,148
I think, from FBI agent
Peter Strzok showing he

752
00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:23,924
absolutely had bias,
political and

753
00:32:23,936 --> 00:32:25,776
personal bias
against Donald Trump.

754
00:32:25,776 --> 00:32:28,279
That's a problem
that's worth addressing.

755
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,906
And we shouldn't
ever breeze by that.

756
00:32:30,906 --> 00:32:33,075
That does not mean, however,
that nothing happened.

757
00:32:33,075 --> 00:32:36,704
That does not mean there was no
attempt to connect with Russia.

758
00:32:36,704 --> 00:32:37,496
There were plenty of those.

759
00:32:37,496 --> 00:32:39,748
That does not mean
Russia didn't try to interfere.

760
00:32:39,748 --> 00:32:40,958
They absolutely did.

761
00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:44,336
So both of those things
can be true at the same time.

762
00:32:44,461 --> 00:32:45,557
And then for Bill Barr in

763
00:32:45,569 --> 00:32:47,298
particular,
to come along and appoint

764
00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:48,944
somebody like
John Durham looking

765
00:32:48,956 --> 00:32:50,467
into something, you know, one,

766
00:32:50,467 --> 00:32:52,923
there was this very
early statement that

767
00:32:52,935 --> 00:32:55,222
John Durham publicly
made after DOJ’s

768
00:32:55,222 --> 00:32:56,879
Inspector General
releases his report

769
00:32:56,891 --> 00:32:58,517
where Durham,
said, well, I disagree

770
00:32:58,517 --> 00:33:00,261
with some of his
conclusions about

771
00:33:00,273 --> 00:33:01,979
the opening of
the investigation.

772
00:33:01,979 --> 00:33:04,899
Well, I was there.
I opened the case.

773
00:33:04,899 --> 00:33:06,358
I know what happened.

774
00:33:06,358 --> 00:33:10,404
And what the IG said is
exactly the way that occurred.

775
00:33:10,404 --> 00:33:12,823
So I'm not sure what
it is that caused this

776
00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:15,829
sitting U.S. attorney to make
this extraordinary

777
00:33:15,831 --> 00:33:17,786
public statement of disagreement

778
00:33:17,786 --> 00:33:20,039
with what I know
to be the truth.

779
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,851
People who want
to find fault with

780
00:33:21,863 --> 00:33:23,792
the Russia
investigation are finding

781
00:33:23,792 --> 00:33:25,127
little nooks and crannies

782
00:33:25,127 --> 00:33:28,605
into some of the things that
Durham has filed gratuitously.

783
00:33:28,798 --> 00:33:30,737
But no, John Durham's
work, by and large

784
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,806
has cast no meaningful doubt

785
00:33:32,934 --> 00:33:34,927
on the necessity of
the Russia investigation.

786
00:33:35,018 --> 00:33:36,058
(tense music)

787
00:33:46,816 --> 00:33:48,445
Strzok's testimony
before Congress

788
00:33:48,464 --> 00:33:50,694
showed that partisan attacks

789
00:33:50,694 --> 00:33:54,240
are now commonplace with regard
to the Russia investigation.

790
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,452
And you have come in
here and said, I have no bias,

791
00:33:58,452 --> 00:34:00,329
and you do it
with a straight face.

792
00:34:00,329 --> 00:34:04,208
And I watched you in the
private testimony you gave.

793
00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:07,127
And I told some of the
other guys, he is really good.

794
00:34:07,127 --> 00:34:08,087
He's lying.

795
00:34:08,087 --> 00:34:10,089
He knows we know he's lying.

796
00:34:10,089 --> 00:34:12,383
And he can probably
pass a polygraph.

797
00:34:12,383 --> 00:34:14,802
It's amazing--
- Mr. Chairman.

798
00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:16,262
- This is my time...
- Mr. Chairman.

799
00:34:16,262 --> 00:34:17,938
I'm sorry.
Point of order.

800
00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:19,609
Point of order.

801
00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:21,952
The gentleman will
state his point of order.

802
00:34:22,059 --> 00:34:23,227
A member of this committee

803
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,646
just asserted that this
witness who was under oath

804
00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:27,815
and a former agent
of the FBI lied.

805
00:34:27,815 --> 00:34:30,192
There is no evidence of that
and I ask him to withdraw it.

806
00:34:30,192 --> 00:34:31,568
I do not withdraw it.

807
00:34:31,568 --> 00:34:33,404
He is not a member of Congress.

808
00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:35,656
It's not a violation
of the rule.

809
00:34:35,656 --> 00:34:37,398
And just as you have been

810
00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:40,077
expressing bias
through your members

811
00:34:40,077 --> 00:34:41,483
about what a
hero he is...

812
00:34:41,495 --> 00:34:43,080
There is not a single person
on this committee

813
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,311
who has ever characterized...

814
00:34:44,335 --> 00:34:46,166
The gentleman
from Rhode Island...

815
00:34:46,166 --> 00:34:48,836
The gentleman from Rhode Island

816
00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:50,187
will suspend.

817
00:34:50,211 --> 00:34:52,047
No, the disgrace is

818
00:34:52,047 --> 00:34:53,294
what this man has
done.

819
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:55,652
The gentleman from Texas will
suspend for a moment.

820
00:34:55,677 --> 00:34:59,738
There is the disgrace,
and it won't be recaptured

821
00:34:59,763 --> 00:35:02,057
any time soon
because of the damage

822
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:04,310
you've done to
the justice system.

823
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:06,895
And I've talked to FBI
agents around the country.

824
00:35:06,895 --> 00:35:08,397
You've embarrassed them.

825
00:35:08,397 --> 00:35:10,357
You've been
embarrassed yourself.

826
00:35:10,357 --> 00:35:12,556
And I can't help but
wonder when I see

827
00:35:12,568 --> 00:35:14,778
you looking there
with a little smirk,

828
00:35:14,778 --> 00:35:18,240
how many times did
you look so innocent

829
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:21,819
into your wife's eyes and
lie to her about Lisa Page?

830
00:35:21,830 --> 00:35:23,690
Mr. Chairman, this is
outrageous!

831
00:35:23,768 --> 00:35:26,761
(indistinct shouting)

832
00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:29,671
Mr. Chairman, please?

833
00:35:29,729 --> 00:35:30,771
(indistinct shouting)

834
00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:33,432
This is intolerable,
harassment of the witness!

835
00:35:33,673 --> 00:35:35,217
You need your medication!

836
00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:37,870
Strzok defended the FBI,
saying partisan

837
00:35:37,882 --> 00:35:39,928
attacks were hurting the agency.

838
00:35:39,928 --> 00:35:42,306
Everybody's watching this
and making up their own mind.

839
00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:45,225
And what I would tell you

840
00:35:45,225 --> 00:35:46,977
is one,

841
00:35:46,977 --> 00:35:49,063
I'm sitting here
telling you the truth.

842
00:35:49,063 --> 00:35:51,940
And two, independent of me,

843
00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:58,781
I cannot express to you
my love of the FBI enough.

844
00:35:58,781 --> 00:36:02,910
The men and women who make
up that workforce, their ethics,

845
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:06,622
their integrity are unmatched
anywhere in the world.

846
00:36:06,622 --> 00:36:11,043
And I think that's important,
one, because it is who we are.

847
00:36:11,043 --> 00:36:13,837
Two, that none of them

848
00:36:13,837 --> 00:36:15,503
would accept any
of the behaviors

849
00:36:15,515 --> 00:36:17,341
that are being
alleged any more than

850
00:36:17,341 --> 00:36:19,635
I would accept it in him.

851
00:36:19,635 --> 00:36:20,886
And three,

852
00:36:20,886 --> 00:36:24,223
this entire exercise
comes at a cost.

853
00:36:24,223 --> 00:36:26,382
We are doing things that are

854
00:36:26,394 --> 00:36:29,186
going to, in the future,
tear down

855
00:36:29,186 --> 00:36:31,281
the underpinnings
of what represent

856
00:36:31,293 --> 00:36:33,107
law and order in this country.

857
00:36:33,107 --> 00:36:36,235
So did the Russians
tip the 2016 election?

858
00:36:36,235 --> 00:36:38,260
That's the focus of Cyberwar by

859
00:36:38,272 --> 00:36:40,572
Professor Kathleen
Hall Jamieson.

860
00:36:40,572 --> 00:36:43,367
We begin with a key question:
did Russia turn

861
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:46,578
the outcome of the
last presidential race?

862
00:36:46,578 --> 00:36:48,872
I believe it's highly
probable that they did.

863
00:36:48,872 --> 00:36:50,958
Not certain,
but highly probable.

864
00:36:50,958 --> 00:36:53,168
Three ways to get
there: troll influence -

865
00:36:53,168 --> 00:36:55,212
those were the
imposters in cyberspace,

866
00:36:55,212 --> 00:36:58,590
influence of hacking on media
agenda, including hacked content

867
00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:00,884
used as a basis of questions
that hurt Clinton in...

868
00:37:00,884 --> 00:37:02,595
..two debates, and a possible

869
00:37:02,607 --> 00:37:04,805
influence of Russian
disinformation

870
00:37:04,805 --> 00:37:06,953
on James Comey's
decision on October

871
00:37:06,965 --> 00:37:09,184
28th to basically
let the public know

872
00:37:09,184 --> 00:37:10,518
that he had reopened the server

873
00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:12,396
investigation. It changed
the media agenda

874
00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:14,314
and she dropped
in the polls 2.5%.

875
00:37:14,314 --> 00:37:16,608
That could have been a decisive
influence all by itself.

876
00:37:16,608 --> 00:37:17,443
Nicely done.

877
00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,589
When I get asked,
do I think the Russians

878
00:37:20,601 --> 00:37:23,157
succeeded in
actually influencing

879
00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:25,502
to the point where
Americans voted a

880
00:37:25,514 --> 00:37:27,870
certain way based
on that influence?

881
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:31,415
I tell you first,
honestly, I don't know.

882
00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:33,876
But my conclusion,
if forced to come to

883
00:37:33,876 --> 00:37:37,421
one, would be I think so,
I think it worked.

884
00:37:37,421 --> 00:37:40,056
Perhaps the most
tangible likelihood

885
00:37:40,133 --> 00:37:41,887
that that was
successful would be

886
00:37:41,905 --> 00:37:46,263
with the breach into DNC emails

887
00:37:46,263 --> 00:37:48,707
and communications
involving Hillary Clinton

888
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:51,151
and her
staff and associates.

889
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,524
He repeated the Wikileaks theme.

890
00:37:53,562 --> 00:37:58,275
He repeated the mantra of
look at what Hillary is saying.

891
00:37:58,275 --> 00:38:01,236
Look at what her staff
is saying about her.

892
00:38:01,236 --> 00:38:03,155
That's stolen material,

893
00:38:03,155 --> 00:38:04,573
Trump used it,

894
00:38:04,573 --> 00:38:07,201
and it's clear

895
00:38:07,201 --> 00:38:10,454
it came from the Russian
intelligence services.

896
00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:12,889
Paul Manafort's contacts and
coordination

897
00:38:12,913 --> 00:38:14,225
with Konstantin Kilimnik

898
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:17,548
is exactly what we
mean when we say collusion.

899
00:38:17,794 --> 00:38:20,672
This is a clandestine,

900
00:38:20,672 --> 00:38:24,760
coordinated attempt
to achieve an outcome,

901
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,223
in this case helping Russia
interfere in the 2016 election.

902
00:38:29,223 --> 00:38:32,392
What's key about the
polling data that Manafort

903
00:38:32,392 --> 00:38:36,688
provided to Konstantin Kilimnik
is that the Russians needed this

904
00:38:36,688 --> 00:38:40,943
on the ground intelligence in
order to know where to focus

905
00:38:40,943 --> 00:38:44,947
their disinformation and
influence operation efforts.

906
00:38:44,947 --> 00:38:47,382
By gathering
intelligence on where

907
00:38:47,394 --> 00:38:49,701
small changes in voting behavior

908
00:38:49,701 --> 00:38:51,278
or turnout can make a big

909
00:38:51,290 --> 00:38:53,705
difference in the
electoral outcome,

910
00:38:53,705 --> 00:38:57,751
Russia was able to target
its operations very effectively,

911
00:38:57,751 --> 00:38:59,337
and Manafort
helped them with that.

912
00:38:59,631 --> 00:39:00,671
(tense music)

913
00:39:02,464 --> 00:39:03,849
When you look at the
number of voters

914
00:39:03,861 --> 00:39:05,676
if you tally up the sum total

915
00:39:05,676 --> 00:39:09,680
between Pennsylvania,
Michigan and I think Wisconsin,

916
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,641
the number of voters that you
would have to change their mind

917
00:39:12,641 --> 00:39:15,310
to cause the election to go
to Clinton instead of Trump?

918
00:39:15,310 --> 00:39:17,316
You could fit them
all in Michigan Stadium,

919
00:39:17,328 --> 00:39:19,231
you know, in Ann Arbor.

920
00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:20,774
It's a very small number.

921
00:39:20,774 --> 00:39:22,347
So I agree with
people when they say,

922
00:39:22,359 --> 00:39:23,944
look, you know,
if you look at malign

923
00:39:23,944 --> 00:39:28,031
Russian activity, it's not going
to move the needle 4, 5 or 6%.

924
00:39:28,031 --> 00:39:29,741
And that's true. But
that's not the point.

925
00:39:29,741 --> 00:39:34,997
The point is you need to move
the needle a tiny percent of 1%.

926
00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:36,957
You don't need a big shift.

927
00:39:36,957 --> 00:39:39,323
So when it comes
to what the Russians did

928
00:39:39,335 --> 00:39:43,812
even if it moved the needle
0.1, 0.2%... that's enough.

929
00:39:44,298 --> 00:39:47,134
And so consequently,
had they not done that,

930
00:39:47,134 --> 00:39:50,429
might the campaign, might the
election have gone differently?

931
00:39:50,429 --> 00:39:52,222
Sure. And I think it would have.

932
00:39:52,222 --> 00:39:55,017
Now, you can extend that
reasoning to... had Director

933
00:39:55,017 --> 00:39:56,963
Comey not made the
announcement to reopen

934
00:39:56,975 --> 00:39:58,979
the investigation,
might it have changed it?

935
00:39:58,979 --> 00:40:02,899
Yes. In a campaign that close,
there are any number of factors

936
00:40:02,899 --> 00:40:04,484
that could be determinative.

937
00:40:04,484 --> 00:40:08,488
But, one of them was absolutely
the government of Russia.

938
00:40:08,488 --> 00:40:10,866
I wouldn't necessarily disagree.

939
00:40:10,866 --> 00:40:12,117
I have not read the book.

940
00:40:12,117 --> 00:40:14,036
So I need to put that out there.

941
00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:15,054
I wouldn't disagree,

942
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,889
but I don't know if
we have the data

943
00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:18,999
to kind of back
that up empirically.

944
00:40:18,999 --> 00:40:22,753
So as a hypothesis,
I don't disagree with it.

945
00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:23,795
But from an empirical side,

946
00:40:23,795 --> 00:40:25,437
I'd have to review
the data to kind

947
00:40:25,449 --> 00:40:26,965
of get a better measure on that.

948
00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:31,053
So in September

949
00:40:31,053 --> 00:40:36,266
of 2020, I filed a much more
comprehensive complaint.

950
00:40:36,266 --> 00:40:37,267
But the core of it

951
00:40:37,267 --> 00:40:40,529
was that the
suppression of intelligence

952
00:40:40,541 --> 00:40:42,856
as related to 2020 elections

953
00:40:42,856 --> 00:40:46,485
for political purposes
to support Donald Trump

954
00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:49,404
and let Joe Biden be,
you know, denigrated, right?

955
00:40:49,404 --> 00:40:51,239
In July of 2020,

956
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,077
my office wrote a
report basically outlining

957
00:40:55,077 --> 00:40:57,037
specific information that
we were going to send

958
00:40:57,037 --> 00:40:59,289
to our stakeholders
at an unclassified level,

959
00:40:59,289 --> 00:41:00,879
that the Russians were going to

960
00:41:00,891 --> 00:41:02,959
denigrate Joe Biden
and try to pump up

961
00:41:02,959 --> 00:41:05,193
President Trump. Specifically,
I got an

962
00:41:05,205 --> 00:41:07,122
email from the chief
of staff saying

963
00:41:07,131 --> 00:41:08,719
Chad Wolf knows
you're about to put

964
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,217
this out,
but he'd like to see you.

965
00:41:10,217 --> 00:41:12,511
So I knew what it
was going to be about.

966
00:41:12,511 --> 00:41:16,682
So, of course, I went and saw
him and he asked me to hold

967
00:41:16,682 --> 00:41:20,560
the information, and I
said I'm not going to do that.

968
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,522
And he's like,
I'm ordering you to hold it.

969
00:41:23,522 --> 00:41:25,107
And I told him I wouldn't do it.

970
00:41:25,107 --> 00:41:26,257
He wanted the information held

971
00:41:26,269 --> 00:41:27,818
because it was going
to make President

972
00:41:27,818 --> 00:41:29,027
Trump look bad.

973
00:41:29,027 --> 00:41:30,720
The public demands
that you hold these

974
00:41:30,732 --> 00:41:32,656
offices and do what's
right for the country

975
00:41:32,656 --> 00:41:33,532
and not for yourself.

976
00:41:33,532 --> 00:41:38,245
So, I mean, I find that
argument to be disgusting.

977
00:41:38,245 --> 00:41:41,832
In 2024, if Trump runs for it,
well, I won't vote for him,

978
00:41:41,832 --> 00:41:42,958
and I don't think
he's fit for office.

979
00:41:42,958 --> 00:41:46,878
I think he will damage this
country in ways that are worse

980
00:41:46,878 --> 00:41:48,213
than what he's done so far.

981
00:41:48,213 --> 00:41:50,318
I think that while
the Russians have

982
00:41:50,330 --> 00:41:52,676
done their job of
enhancing polarization

983
00:41:52,676 --> 00:41:54,929
and discord in the
United States, they

984
00:41:54,941 --> 00:41:57,264
pale in comparison
to Trump by himself.

985
00:41:57,264 --> 00:41:59,109
And so I think really
where he showed

986
00:41:59,121 --> 00:42:00,684
his true colors to the American

987
00:42:00,684 --> 00:42:02,394
people was after he lost.

988
00:42:02,502 --> 00:42:03,542
(tense music)

989
00:42:03,895 --> 00:42:06,815
In November of 2020,

990
00:42:06,815 --> 00:42:08,527
as we lead into January 6th,

991
00:42:08,539 --> 00:42:10,694
just a very dangerous
predicament

992
00:42:10,694 --> 00:42:13,905
he's put the country in.
The lies that he has told

993
00:42:13,905 --> 00:42:15,418
and for things that I believe he

994
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:17,732
probably thinks aren't
true anyways, right?

995
00:42:17,951 --> 00:42:20,579
And the polarization
that he's caused.

996
00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:21,955
I think we are in a worse place.

997
00:42:21,955 --> 00:42:24,436
And, you know, I think
he's the direct cause of that.

998
00:42:25,625 --> 00:42:28,044
The Russians are
certainly trying to influence

999
00:42:28,044 --> 00:42:32,966
the US 2024 elections. In
the company I work in now

1000
00:42:32,966 --> 00:42:35,594
called Logically, you know,
we're looking at this happen in

1001
00:42:35,594 --> 00:42:36,871
real time on social
media. We are

1002
00:42:36,883 --> 00:42:38,096
a social media analysis company,

1003
00:42:38,096 --> 00:42:41,266
so we see people and signs of
what we think are the Russians.

1004
00:42:41,266 --> 00:42:44,269
There's no doubt in my mind
that they're still involved.

1005
00:42:44,269 --> 00:42:45,928
So I ended up becoming
the highest-ranking

1006
00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:47,105
whistleblower in U.S. history.

1007
00:42:47,105 --> 00:42:49,952
It's not a kind of thing,
a title

1008
00:42:49,964 --> 00:42:52,402
I thought I would ever have.

1009
00:42:52,402 --> 00:42:54,905
And anyone that knows me
would never have envisioned

1010
00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:56,490
that would be the
place that I would be in.

1011
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:59,367
But I am proud of it.

1012
00:42:59,367 --> 00:43:00,535
Because when I think

1013
00:43:00,535 --> 00:43:04,745
when I was called to
do the right thing, I did.

1014
00:43:05,578 --> 00:43:06,858
(brooding music)

1015
00:43:09,127 --> 00:43:11,588
I'm not into golden showers!

1016
00:43:11,588 --> 00:43:14,966
You know the great thing,
our great first lady,

1017
00:43:14,991 --> 00:43:17,734
"That one," she said.
"I don't believe that one."

1018
00:43:18,136 --> 00:43:22,766
He's not into golden showers,
as they say they call them.

1019
00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:24,267
I don't like that idea.

1020
00:43:24,267 --> 00:43:26,144
Former FBI Director Comey's

1021
00:43:26,156 --> 00:43:28,605
remarks on ABC
fueled speculation

1022
00:43:28,605 --> 00:43:30,891
that the salacious
rumor might be true.

1023
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,085
And I started to tell him
about the allegation was that

1024
00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:36,530
he had been involved
with prostitutes in a hotel

1025
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:38,634
in Moscow in 2013,
during a visit

1026
00:43:38,646 --> 00:43:40,575
for the Miss Universe pageant,

1027
00:43:40,575 --> 00:43:44,389
and that the Russians
had filmed the episode.

1028
00:43:44,414 --> 00:43:45,514
I honestly never thought these

1029
00:43:45,526 --> 00:43:46,581
words would come
out of my mouth,

1030
00:43:46,581 --> 00:43:48,340
but I don't know
whether the current

1031
00:43:48,352 --> 00:43:49,835
president of the United States

1032
00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:53,505
was with prostitutes peeing on
each other in Moscow in 2013.

1033
00:43:53,505 --> 00:43:55,423
It's possible, but I don't know.

1034
00:43:55,423 --> 00:43:58,677
Years after his dossier,
Christopher Steele added

1035
00:43:58,677 --> 00:44:01,888
to the intrigue that a
videotape might exist.

1036
00:44:01,888 --> 00:44:05,809
And today, do you still
believe that that tape exists?

1037
00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:07,457
I think it probably does, but I

1038
00:44:07,469 --> 00:44:09,396
wouldn't put 100%
certainty on it.

1039
00:44:09,855 --> 00:44:12,190
A report in the British
newspaper The Guardian,

1040
00:44:12,190 --> 00:44:13,984
further added to the intrigue.

1041
00:44:14,467 --> 00:44:15,747
(brooding music)

1042
00:44:19,345 --> 00:44:22,348
And just in case you
missed seeing me, here I am.

1043
00:44:22,409 --> 00:44:24,345
A golden shower,
(laughs)

1044
00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:27,539
or sometimes
referred to as water sports,

1045
00:44:27,539 --> 00:44:30,540
is when somebody
likes to urinate

1046
00:44:30,552 --> 00:44:33,211
on someone or be urinated on.

1047
00:44:33,211 --> 00:44:35,463
Basically, it's a pee party.

1048
00:44:35,463 --> 00:44:39,217
So I think for some
the kink is domination,

1049
00:44:39,217 --> 00:44:42,387
you know,
and or marking territory.

1050
00:44:42,387 --> 00:44:43,555
I don't really know.

1051
00:44:43,555 --> 00:44:45,189
I like I said,
I'm not into it, but

1052
00:44:45,201 --> 00:44:46,892
those are the
things I've been told.

1053
00:44:46,892 --> 00:44:51,313
You know, the humiliation of it,
you know, pee on me or worse.

1054
00:44:51,354 --> 00:44:52,856
You know, we all know
about, you know,

1055
00:44:52,868 --> 00:44:54,524
the alternative to that is.

1056
00:44:54,524 --> 00:44:57,360
But I think it's the
act of humiliation.

1057
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,572
People who like to be
spanked or put leashes on or,

1058
00:45:00,572 --> 00:45:03,658
you know, it's a very
submissive thing to be peed on.

1059
00:45:03,658 --> 00:45:05,276
I mean, I get asked a lot what,

1060
00:45:05,288 --> 00:45:07,287
what I think about
the allegation of

1061
00:45:07,287 --> 00:45:11,917
Trump and the golden
shower tape from 2013.

1062
00:45:11,917 --> 00:45:13,209
There's different
versions of it.

1063
00:45:13,209 --> 00:45:15,310
I always assumed that he had

1064
00:45:15,322 --> 00:45:17,964
been peed on or
peed on somebody,

1065
00:45:17,964 --> 00:45:21,092
but I guess the actual
story is that he only watched

1066
00:45:21,092 --> 00:45:23,706
two Russian
prostitutes urinate on a

1067
00:45:23,718 --> 00:45:26,556
bed that the Obamas
allegedly slept in.

1068
00:45:26,556 --> 00:45:27,933
But the way...

1069
00:45:27,933 --> 00:45:29,100
is that that bad?

1070
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:31,101
I don't, I don't know,
but I mean,

1071
00:45:31,113 --> 00:45:32,896
I think a lot of people assume

1072
00:45:32,896 --> 00:45:35,941
that he got peed on
because he's kind of a bitch.

1073
00:45:35,941 --> 00:45:39,152
I'm Katie Morgan,
and I am an adult movie star.

1074
00:45:39,152 --> 00:45:42,072
I've been doing adult
movies for 20 years now,

1075
00:45:42,072 --> 00:45:45,617
and I absolutely
love all the orgasms.

1076
00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:49,120
Of course, I'm familiar
with golden showers.

1077
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,580
It's one of those things.

1078
00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:52,707
Everybody's got their kink.

1079
00:45:52,707 --> 00:45:55,114
Golden showers
are when you find it

1080
00:45:55,126 --> 00:45:57,545
sexually exciting
to pee on someone

1081
00:45:57,545 --> 00:45:59,698
or to get peed on
by someone.

1082
00:45:59,710 --> 00:46:02,050
Or, I guess, really,
any way that you involve

1083
00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:03,521
urine in your sex play for

1084
00:46:03,533 --> 00:46:05,929
gratification counts
as golden showers.

1085
00:46:05,929 --> 00:46:08,223
It's actually been
around since the early 40s

1086
00:46:08,223 --> 00:46:11,851
in the slang dictionary.
So it's a pretty old idea.

1087
00:46:11,851 --> 00:46:14,020
Apparently people really
like to pee on each other.

1088
00:46:14,020 --> 00:46:15,647
I've heard it
called water sports.

1089
00:46:15,647 --> 00:46:18,274
I've heard it
called golden rain.

1090
00:46:18,274 --> 00:46:19,651
I've heard it called a
few different things,

1091
00:46:19,651 --> 00:46:21,487
but in general,
if you say golden

1092
00:46:21,499 --> 00:46:23,238
anything, people know it's pee.

1093
00:46:23,238 --> 00:46:25,566
So the allegation with Trump was

1094
00:46:25,578 --> 00:46:28,284
that in 2013,
at a hotel in Moscow,

1095
00:46:28,284 --> 00:46:30,718
he watched
prostitutes pee on the

1096
00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:33,248
same bed that the
Obamas slept in.

1097
00:46:33,248 --> 00:46:35,750
It's so weird. And, it's funny,

1098
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:38,712
I always thought he was either
peed on or he peed on someone.

1099
00:46:38,712 --> 00:46:41,923
I never knew the details
until I did the research.

1100
00:46:41,923 --> 00:46:43,501
The rumor is that there's actual

1101
00:46:43,513 --> 00:46:45,301
video evidence
that this happened,

1102
00:46:45,301 --> 00:46:48,430
so... I have not seen the video,
but I'd watch it.

1103
00:46:48,431 --> 00:46:50,435
Truth or not?
I don't know.

1104
00:46:50,473 --> 00:46:52,137
I don't know,
he just... even if you

1105
00:46:52,149 --> 00:46:53,727
just watched, I would admit it.

1106
00:46:53,727 --> 00:46:54,811
Who cares?

1107
00:46:54,811 --> 00:46:56,604
I mean, it's not like
he was involved.

1108
00:46:56,604 --> 00:46:59,107
He just watched. Maybe.

1109
00:46:59,315 --> 00:47:00,150
Yeah,

1110
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:02,694
you know,
I used to think that story about

1111
00:47:02,694 --> 00:47:05,349
the golden shower
tape couldn't possibly

1112
00:47:05,361 --> 00:47:08,158
be true because it
seemed so far- fetched.

1113
00:47:08,158 --> 00:47:13,371
But nowadays,
is it really that far-fetched?

1114
00:47:13,371 --> 00:47:16,541
Anything is possible when it
comes to the orange hobgoblin.

1115
00:47:16,541 --> 00:47:19,419
Unless some of you
have been under a rock,

1116
00:47:19,419 --> 00:47:22,672
that in 2006, I met Donald Trump

1117
00:47:22,672 --> 00:47:24,449
at a golf tournament,
a celebrity

1118
00:47:24,461 --> 00:47:26,092
golf tournament in Lake Tahoe.

1119
00:47:26,092 --> 00:47:29,846
And he invited me
to dinner and I agreed

1120
00:47:29,846 --> 00:47:32,262
and went to his
hotel to meet him

1121
00:47:32,274 --> 00:47:34,559
for what I was told was dinner.

1122
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:39,272
And that ended up turning
into a three hour conversation,

1123
00:47:39,272 --> 00:47:42,734
which did not include any
conversation about sex or

1124
00:47:42,734 --> 00:47:45,528
escorting or money for sex,
or any of those things.

1125
00:47:45,528 --> 00:47:48,255
And I went to the
ladies room or the

1126
00:47:48,267 --> 00:47:50,784
bathroom in his
room and came out

1127
00:47:50,784 --> 00:47:55,038
to find him perched in
his underwear on the bed.

1128
00:47:55,038 --> 00:47:58,875
And I was too afraid to say no.

1129
00:47:58,875 --> 00:48:02,128
I tried to walk past him, and
he got between me and the door.

1130
00:48:02,128 --> 00:48:03,795
I knew his security guard was

1131
00:48:03,807 --> 00:48:06,007
outside, and basically
we had talked

1132
00:48:06,007 --> 00:48:08,426
for several hours about
how I wanted to be a director

1133
00:48:08,426 --> 00:48:09,594
in mainstream and,

1134
00:48:09,594 --> 00:48:11,145
you know,
all of that stuff, and he

1135
00:48:11,157 --> 00:48:12,641
kind of used some
of that against me.

1136
00:48:12,695 --> 00:48:13,610
And I was cornered.

1137
00:48:13,635 --> 00:48:16,757
And I... honestly, I just froze.

1138
00:48:16,851 --> 00:48:18,478
You know,
he didn't physically force me.

1139
00:48:18,478 --> 00:48:21,064
He didn't threaten
me with violence.

1140
00:48:21,064 --> 00:48:22,857
I definitely could outrun him.

1141
00:48:22,857 --> 00:48:24,484
But I just froze.

1142
00:48:24,484 --> 00:48:26,055
And... we had sex.

1143
00:48:26,694 --> 00:48:28,404
I mean, I guess I should
have seen it coming,

1144
00:48:28,404 --> 00:48:29,932
because when I arrived
at the room,

1145
00:48:29,944 --> 00:48:31,908
he apologized
for being late.

1146
00:48:31,954 --> 00:48:33,826
He had had a phone call,
and he opened the door

1147
00:48:33,851 --> 00:48:36,144
in his black silk pajamas.

1148
00:48:37,705 --> 00:48:40,500
And I laughed at him,
thinking to myself,

1149
00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:42,418
this motherfucker's
trying to be Hugh Hefner.

1150
00:48:42,418 --> 00:48:44,337
And I told him to go put
some fucking clothes on.

1151
00:48:44,337 --> 00:48:47,632
I also then famously
spanked him with a magazine

1152
00:48:47,661 --> 00:48:49,584
because during our conversation,

1153
00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:52,428
he was bragging about
all of his accolades

1154
00:48:52,428 --> 00:48:53,346
and achievements.

1155
00:48:53,346 --> 00:48:55,807
And, you know, he was peacocking

1156
00:48:55,807 --> 00:48:57,358
and didn't let me
get a word in and

1157
00:48:57,370 --> 00:48:58,977
didn't ask me
anything about myself.

1158
00:48:58,977 --> 00:49:01,896
And after, you know,
a very long time of this,

1159
00:49:01,896 --> 00:49:04,750
he produced a
magazine that he was very

1160
00:49:04,775 --> 00:49:06,251
proud of, that he was
on the cover of.

1161
00:49:06,276 --> 00:49:07,790
And I think he even was like,
it's not

1162
00:49:07,802 --> 00:49:10,047
even out yet,
but I have an advance copy.

1163
00:49:10,072 --> 00:49:13,298
And I... at that
point I was hungry,

1164
00:49:13,408 --> 00:49:15,451
I had been lied to.

1165
00:49:15,451 --> 00:49:16,619
I get very hangry

1166
00:49:16,619 --> 00:49:18,613
and I was tired
of listening to this

1167
00:49:18,625 --> 00:49:20,415
buffoon just talk about himself.

1168
00:49:20,415 --> 00:49:21,958
So I just quipped at him,

1169
00:49:21,958 --> 00:49:23,835
somebody should spank
you with that magazine.

1170
00:49:23,835 --> 00:49:25,451
I just snatched it from him,

1171
00:49:25,463 --> 00:49:27,046
rolled it up and told him
to turn around.

1172
00:49:27,046 --> 00:49:28,339
I smacked him on the ass.

1173
00:49:28,339 --> 00:49:29,775
I think somebody
should spank him with

1174
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,178
a rolled-up newspaper
or magazine daily.

1175
00:49:33,178 --> 00:49:35,054
God, he's dumb.

1176
00:49:35,054 --> 00:49:36,389
Obviously, he's into them.

1177
00:49:36,389 --> 00:49:38,266
They certainly seem
to be on his mind.

1178
00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:39,601
I mean, he certainly seems to be

1179
00:49:39,601 --> 00:49:41,666
into golden showers
if he's randomly

1180
00:49:41,678 --> 00:49:43,980
talking about them
in business meetings.

1181
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:47,692
God, he's so stupid. And I
think that's one of the tells

1182
00:49:47,692 --> 00:49:49,175
that the golden shower
tape might exist -

1183
00:49:49,187 --> 00:49:50,945
he can't
stop talking about it.

1184
00:49:50,945 --> 00:49:52,393
When other people
do stop talking

1185
00:49:52,405 --> 00:49:53,823
about it, he brings it up again.

1186
00:49:53,823 --> 00:49:54,927
He is so dumb.

1187
00:49:56,117 --> 00:49:58,077
What was sex with Trump like?

1188
00:49:58,077 --> 00:49:59,999
Hands down, the worst and most

1189
00:50:00,026 --> 00:50:02,148
regrettable 90
seconds of my life.

1190
00:50:02,291 --> 00:50:03,837
I didn't even get to pee on him.

1191
00:50:04,392 --> 00:50:05,672
(brooding music)

1192
00:50:07,754 --> 00:50:08,963
Trump's former attorney,

1193
00:50:08,963 --> 00:50:11,275
Michael Cohen,
wrote that rumors of

1194
00:50:11,287 --> 00:50:13,676
a videotape had
circulated for years

1195
00:50:13,676 --> 00:50:18,097
and, quote, knowing the boss,
anything was possible.

1196
00:50:18,097 --> 00:50:19,474
Cohen also wrote that Trump

1197
00:50:19,474 --> 00:50:21,874
visited a raunchy
nightclub in Las Vegas

1198
00:50:21,886 --> 00:50:24,062
with a Russian oligarch,
a nightclub

1199
00:50:24,062 --> 00:50:28,024
that featured a simulated
golden showers routine.

1200
00:50:28,024 --> 00:50:28,959
Some suspect

1201
00:50:28,984 --> 00:50:30,739
that Trump's appearance
at the nightclub

1202
00:50:30,779 --> 00:50:32,695
might have sparked
the salacious rumor.

1203
00:50:32,695 --> 00:50:35,782
So what was the club's
name and what was it like?

1204
00:50:35,898 --> 00:50:37,578
(upfront dance music)

1205
00:50:44,832 --> 00:50:46,334
The Vegas nightclub was closed

1206
00:50:46,334 --> 00:50:48,002
shortly after Trump visited it,

1207
00:50:48,002 --> 00:50:49,678
one month after
a judge ordered it

1208
00:50:49,726 --> 00:50:51,639
to clean up its
risque sex shows.

1209
00:50:52,590 --> 00:50:55,468
In his book, Cohen says his
heart sank when a friend said

1210
00:50:55,468 --> 00:50:59,222
he heard rumors in
2016 about a pee tape.

1211
00:50:59,222 --> 00:51:01,808
His friend denies
Cohen's allegations.

1212
00:51:01,808 --> 00:51:04,811
For him to say that
we discussed pee tapes

1213
00:51:04,811 --> 00:51:07,438
is, in my opinion, disgusting...

1214
00:51:07,438 --> 00:51:08,946
...when you're talking about

1215
00:51:08,958 --> 00:51:10,858
someone that
calls you a brother.

1216
00:51:10,858 --> 00:51:13,068
I know that he's
selling every book

1217
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,363
he can sell,
and I'm fine with that.

1218
00:51:15,409 --> 00:51:17,070
Except you can't just

1219
00:51:17,244 --> 00:51:23,538
go on a spree of
talking about your friend,

1220
00:51:23,538 --> 00:51:25,177
you know,
and lying about some of

1221
00:51:25,189 --> 00:51:26,791
the things that you were saying.

1222
00:51:26,791 --> 00:51:29,210
He took action. He did this,
did that.

1223
00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:33,006
So when I got a phone call
from a friend of mine in Moscow

1224
00:51:33,006 --> 00:51:36,843
and he said, listen, you know,
I was sitting at dinner and,

1225
00:51:37,886 --> 00:51:40,398
I overheard somebody saying
about some tapes about

1226
00:51:40,431 --> 00:51:43,841
Mr. Trump, and so forth.

1227
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:48,896
And he told me that
he wasn't concerned.

1228
00:51:48,896 --> 00:51:50,732
Not in a dramatic way.

1229
00:51:50,732 --> 00:51:53,151
He just said, listen,
I know you're in business

1230
00:51:53,151 --> 00:51:56,612
with the Trump Organization,
but this is what's going on.

1231
00:51:56,612 --> 00:52:01,140
And like I said, a lot of
conversations were about tapes.

1232
00:52:02,036 --> 00:52:04,721
Access Hollywood,
famous Access Hollywood tape,

1233
00:52:04,746 --> 00:52:06,680
and pretty much
everybody was saying, oh,

1234
00:52:06,692 --> 00:52:08,499
there should be other tapes,
you know.

1235
00:52:08,499 --> 00:52:09,917
And it could be anywhere else,

1236
00:52:09,917 --> 00:52:11,044
not only in the U.S.

1237
00:52:34,317 --> 00:52:36,159
Hello! How are you?

1238
00:52:36,402 --> 00:52:40,239
So, just the general concern
about this type of rumor

1239
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,786
or gossip was not
taken too lightly by me.

1240
00:52:44,786 --> 00:52:45,953
So, I,

1241
00:52:45,953 --> 00:52:47,951
after that call, soon after,

1242
00:52:47,963 --> 00:52:50,375
I texted Michael and I said,
listen,

1243
00:52:50,375 --> 00:52:54,087
you know,someone is
bragging about some tapes.

1244
00:52:54,087 --> 00:52:56,089
I don't think it's a big deal.

1245
00:52:56,089 --> 00:52:58,800
But so you know,

1246
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,887
this is what's going on. And
the only thing that I misused,

1247
00:53:02,887 --> 00:53:07,462
I'd say, or I said it in a wrong
way, was stop flow of tapes.

1248
00:53:08,116 --> 00:53:09,745
Basically, what I meant, it was

1249
00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:11,829
evening time,
you know, we have kids

1250
00:53:11,854 --> 00:53:13,272
and a lot going on.

1251
00:53:13,272 --> 00:53:15,233
A lot of times we
speak into the phone.

1252
00:53:15,233 --> 00:53:16,192
I can't remember if

1253
00:53:16,192 --> 00:53:18,236
I was speaking into the phone
or was dialing into the phone.

1254
00:53:18,236 --> 00:53:20,696
It was a long time ago,
so I said stop flow,

1255
00:53:20,696 --> 00:53:22,532
there are no tapes.

1256
00:53:22,532 --> 00:53:24,632
There is no flow of
tapes from Russia.

1257
00:53:25,535 --> 00:53:26,619
Don't worry about that.

1258
00:53:26,619 --> 00:53:28,079
It's not a big deal.

1259
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:31,332
But you should know
that's what's going on.

1260
00:53:31,332 --> 00:53:36,504
There are rumors. And er...
Michael was not clear.

1261
00:53:36,504 --> 00:53:38,631
Tapes of what?

1262
00:53:38,631 --> 00:53:42,176
And it was a friendly
back and forth,

1263
00:53:42,176 --> 00:53:45,763
not even a phone conversation.
The text message ended there.

1264
00:53:45,763 --> 00:53:48,724
We never continued the
conversation about that.

1265
00:53:48,724 --> 00:53:53,563
But for Michael to go on
a limb and make that up,

1266
00:53:53,563 --> 00:53:56,732
that we had phone conversations,
that we discussed these tapes,

1267
00:53:56,732 --> 00:53:58,443
and he sent me on a hunt,

1268
00:53:58,443 --> 00:54:00,629
because he knew that I had
business connections in Russia,

1269
00:54:00,654 --> 00:54:04,953
all this, all of that is
entirely untrue.

1270
00:54:04,991 --> 00:54:06,159
It's false.

1271
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:07,577
I was a good friend to Michael.

1272
00:54:07,577 --> 00:54:11,414
I was an important...

1273
00:54:11,414 --> 00:54:15,084
link between the Trump
Organization and Georgia

1274
00:54:15,084 --> 00:54:19,130
and the expansion of the Trump
brand in that part of the world.

1275
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:22,191
So he should have been truthful.
Kompromat.

1276
00:54:22,216 --> 00:54:26,429
So, it's a Russian word,
compromising materials.

1277
00:54:26,429 --> 00:54:30,683
It was really,
the whole idea started

1278
00:54:30,683 --> 00:54:33,009
during Stalin,
you know, collecting

1279
00:54:33,021 --> 00:54:35,229
compromising
materials on people,

1280
00:54:35,229 --> 00:54:37,510
pretty much on anybody,
just in case

1281
00:54:37,522 --> 00:54:39,692
that person succeeds
in something.

1282
00:54:39,692 --> 00:54:41,396
I think kompromat is everywhere,

1283
00:54:41,408 --> 00:54:43,446
but especially in
our culture today,

1284
00:54:43,446 --> 00:54:44,503
we see a lot of kompromat.

1285
00:54:44,785 --> 00:54:46,365
Well, they knocked
on the door.

1286
00:54:46,365 --> 00:54:48,534
There were two FBI agents.

1287
00:54:50,037 --> 00:54:51,908
They were part of
the Mueller team.

1288
00:54:51,954 --> 00:54:54,305
I invited them
in as politely as I

1289
00:54:54,317 --> 00:54:57,084
could, and we sat
down and we had a chat

1290
00:54:57,084 --> 00:54:59,159
and chat became a long,

1291
00:54:59,183 --> 00:55:02,048
about 2.5 hour,
three hour conversation.

1292
00:55:02,048 --> 00:55:04,726
Which also turned
into more of an

1293
00:55:04,738 --> 00:55:07,428
interrogation,
and it turned into

1294
00:55:07,428 --> 00:55:10,640
more of a very clear
picture that this was not over.

1295
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,851
It was just the
beginning of our ordeal.

1296
00:55:13,851 --> 00:55:16,020
I was a gracious host.

1297
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:19,941
Georgia is known, my
native country is known to be,

1298
00:55:19,941 --> 00:55:23,569
first we are hosts and
we welcome everyone.

1299
00:55:23,569 --> 00:55:26,155
And that's basically
how I behaved.

1300
00:55:26,155 --> 00:55:28,950
And suddenly,

1301
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:32,787
the head prosecutor is
throwing you under the bus,

1302
00:55:32,787 --> 00:55:33,871
saying you're Russian.

1303
00:55:33,871 --> 00:55:36,350
We had an almost
eight hour conversation

1304
00:55:36,362 --> 00:55:38,793
about Georgia and
how Georgia was great

1305
00:55:38,793 --> 00:55:40,429
and how I was
born in Georgia and

1306
00:55:40,471 --> 00:55:42,480
how important America
was for me. All that.

1307
00:55:42,505 --> 00:55:47,343
And suddenly, she completely
disregarded all of that

1308
00:55:47,343 --> 00:55:48,437
and she's telling
everybody that

1309
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:52,443
this guy and his family
come from Moscow.

1310
00:55:52,516 --> 00:55:53,407
At that moment,

1311
00:55:53,432 --> 00:55:55,268
I said, I'm going to
have to speak up.

1312
00:55:55,268 --> 00:55:57,478
And the fact is I'm not Russian.

1313
00:55:57,478 --> 00:55:59,657
Now, the agenda was to show that

1314
00:55:59,669 --> 00:56:02,066
there was some
type of collusion.

1315
00:56:02,067 --> 00:56:05,170
I get it. They were doing their
job, you know,

1316
00:56:05,195 --> 00:56:06,337
they were looking into

1317
00:56:06,362 --> 00:56:09,424
every single detail
to protect our nation,

1318
00:56:09,495 --> 00:56:12,250
to protect the
integrity of the...

1319
00:56:12,326 --> 00:56:16,205
the presidential institute
and all this and the election.

1320
00:56:16,205 --> 00:56:18,499
But... I had nothing
to do with it.

1321
00:56:18,499 --> 00:56:20,126
I'm not naive.

1322
00:56:20,126 --> 00:56:22,420
I'm not saying,

1323
00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:24,509
oh, there was a
big agenda to take

1324
00:56:24,521 --> 00:56:26,382
Trump down and do all of that.

1325
00:56:26,382 --> 00:56:31,053
And... if there is a rumor
about the sitting president

1326
00:56:31,053 --> 00:56:34,181
of the United States, you
better look into it, for sure.

1327
00:56:34,181 --> 00:56:35,528
Everybody should.

1328
00:56:36,392 --> 00:56:39,395
And I was totally fine with
them asking me these questions.

1329
00:56:39,395 --> 00:56:41,188
Why did you send the text
message and what was going on.

1330
00:56:41,188 --> 00:56:43,686
But I told them the truth, and I

1331
00:56:43,698 --> 00:56:46,444
thought I did my
job as a citizen

1332
00:56:46,444 --> 00:56:48,637
who is trying to help you to
understand

1333
00:56:48,661 --> 00:56:50,281
a much bigger picture.

1334
00:56:50,281 --> 00:56:52,031
After the Mueller
report referred

1335
00:56:52,043 --> 00:56:53,701
to him as a Russian businessman

1336
00:56:53,701 --> 00:56:55,657
and insinuated
that he knew about

1337
00:56:55,669 --> 00:56:56,779
the content of the tapes,

1338
00:56:56,788 --> 00:56:58,763
Giorgi demanded a retraction.

1339
00:56:58,956 --> 00:57:00,875
His request was denied,

1340
00:57:00,875 --> 00:57:04,211
which prompted him to file a
lawsuit against Robert Mueller.

1341
00:57:04,211 --> 00:57:06,714
I lost money,
I lost my reputation.

1342
00:57:06,714 --> 00:57:08,466
The only thing
I'm trying to get out

1343
00:57:08,478 --> 00:57:10,384
of this and everyone's
lesson should be

1344
00:57:10,384 --> 00:57:13,054
you should never, ever quit.

1345
00:57:13,054 --> 00:57:14,305
If your name

1346
00:57:14,305 --> 00:57:16,599
and identity,
heritage and nationality

1347
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:18,184
is damaged,

1348
00:57:18,209 --> 00:57:20,568
you should try everything
you can to get it back.

1349
00:57:20,812 --> 00:57:24,069
Well, I joined the KGB after

1350
00:57:24,190 --> 00:57:27,193
I graduated from high school.

1351
00:57:27,193 --> 00:57:32,406
Actually, I was accepted because
of my father's background.

1352
00:57:32,406 --> 00:57:34,742
He was a KGB officer.

1353
00:57:34,742 --> 00:57:38,704
Although my father, by the way,
was against me joining the KGB.

1354
00:57:38,704 --> 00:57:41,248
And I said, why? Said
that's dirty work, my son.

1355
00:57:41,248 --> 00:57:43,167
I said, but you spent
20 years there.

1356
00:57:43,167 --> 00:57:44,877
That's why I tell
you it's dirty work.

1357
00:57:44,877 --> 00:57:49,173
Well, my main job was
to recruit Americans.

1358
00:57:49,173 --> 00:57:54,136
I mean, people with knowledge
or access to, well, secrets,

1359
00:57:54,136 --> 00:57:55,680
I mean,

1360
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,725
all sorts of information
not available in the media.

1361
00:57:59,725 --> 00:58:02,978
So that's typical spy work,

1362
00:58:02,978 --> 00:58:06,691
and that's what I was
actually trained to do.

1363
00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:10,569
Putin was a nobody,
I mean in Saint Petersburg,

1364
00:58:10,569 --> 00:58:15,991
just a guy who would
knock on my door.

1365
00:58:15,991 --> 00:58:17,952
I had a secretary,
the secretary would say,

1366
00:58:17,964 --> 00:58:20,162
some guy came,
I let him come in.

1367
00:58:20,162 --> 00:58:21,831
May I have some pictures,

1368
00:58:21,831 --> 00:58:24,875
I mean, documents signed? Oh,
of course.

1369
00:58:24,875 --> 00:58:26,293
So that's that.

1370
00:58:26,293 --> 00:58:27,420
That's all I knew about him.

1371
00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:29,672
He had no position.

1372
00:58:29,672 --> 00:58:32,758
I mean,
no leadership or anything.

1373
00:58:32,758 --> 00:58:36,262
And so Putin was
pulled out from nowhere

1374
00:58:36,262 --> 00:58:40,891
and became an assistant to
the mayor of Saint Petersburg.

1375
00:58:40,891 --> 00:58:43,279
Well, Putin proved to be,
in that

1376
00:58:43,291 --> 00:58:45,479
sense, well, an efficient guy.

1377
00:58:45,479 --> 00:58:47,273
I mean, and,

1378
00:58:47,273 --> 00:58:50,234
so he did come to
Moscow and slowly,

1379
00:58:50,234 --> 00:58:53,487
gradually grew to
become the member,

1380
00:58:53,487 --> 00:58:54,964
I mean,
actually the chief of the

1381
00:58:54,989 --> 00:58:57,742
Russian internal
Security - the KGB.

1382
00:58:57,742 --> 00:58:59,669
So when Putin
called me a traitor,

1383
00:58:59,681 --> 00:59:01,287
I called him a war criminal.

1384
00:59:01,287 --> 00:59:03,732
And I said the war
in Chechnya one day

1385
00:59:03,767 --> 00:59:07,168
will reveal the ugly nature

1386
00:59:07,168 --> 00:59:10,588
of the guy who is
running Russia today.

1387
00:59:10,588 --> 00:59:12,732
Putin will go down
in Russian history

1388
00:59:12,757 --> 00:59:17,887
as an ambitious, cruel,
I mean, inhuman,

1389
00:59:17,887 --> 00:59:21,724
I mean,
performer of his own ambitions

1390
00:59:21,724 --> 00:59:25,060
and his own, you know, desires.

1391
00:59:25,060 --> 00:59:29,648
Well, in my view,
he's just a killer.

1392
00:59:29,648 --> 00:59:32,318
Putin has been trying to

1393
00:59:32,318 --> 00:59:35,279
intervene into practically

1394
00:59:35,279 --> 00:59:38,824
every major country's
internal affairs.

1395
00:59:38,824 --> 00:59:43,746
This is part of the legacy
of the Soviet mentality.

1396
00:59:43,746 --> 00:59:46,624
And Putin,
in many ways, remains

1397
00:59:46,624 --> 00:59:50,544
loyal to the Soviet,
you know, mentality.

1398
00:59:50,544 --> 00:59:54,215
There are some similarities
between Trump and Putin,

1399
00:59:54,215 --> 00:59:57,760
I believe,
in the human and political way.

1400
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,096
Putin's, as I know him,

1401
01:00:01,841 --> 01:00:03,517
you know, really

1402
01:00:03,557 --> 01:00:07,102
(his) main goal today
is to stay in power

1403
01:00:07,102 --> 01:00:11,315
as long as he can. And
he will do anything to,

1404
01:00:11,315 --> 01:00:13,709
you know, remove any obstacles

1405
01:00:13,721 --> 01:00:16,529
or will commit any crime,
really,

1406
01:00:16,529 --> 01:00:19,490
just to stay in power in Russia.

1407
01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:24,036
He knows how to take advantage
of these things because he,

1408
01:00:24,036 --> 01:00:27,289
in his position as
a former KGB guy,

1409
01:00:27,289 --> 01:00:29,372
he was very much involved in the

1410
01:00:29,384 --> 01:00:32,002
sorts of things which
would put people

1411
01:00:32,002 --> 01:00:35,130
in difficult positions
where kompromat

1412
01:00:35,130 --> 01:00:38,008
was an inevitable
part of their lives.

1413
01:00:38,008 --> 01:00:42,513
Well, to place a naked
lady into his room,

1414
01:00:42,513 --> 01:00:45,529
you expected that
for the guy,

1415
01:00:45,554 --> 01:00:47,742
but that pictures would be
taken, you know?

1416
01:00:47,936 --> 01:00:52,319
In that sense the
KGB in the...

1417
01:00:52,356 --> 01:00:54,117
post-Soviet days have not

1418
01:00:54,129 --> 01:00:56,610
changed much.
In the Soviet days,

1419
01:00:56,610 --> 01:01:00,906
they would use more direct
ways to get rid of people just,

1420
01:01:00,906 --> 01:01:05,619
you know, either in
jail or just execution.

1421
01:01:05,619 --> 01:01:09,081
In Putin's Russia,

1422
01:01:09,081 --> 01:01:13,252
it's more to get people hooked,

1423
01:01:13,252 --> 01:01:17,923
and with some information
related to their either

1424
01:01:17,923 --> 01:01:23,262
financial indiscretions or
human, I mean, sexual...

1425
01:01:23,262 --> 01:01:27,892
that's more typical of
the current Russian regime.

1426
01:01:27,892 --> 01:01:31,854
Well, I could not
tell you anything

1427
01:01:31,854 --> 01:01:35,524
about now since I've been
out of Russia for many years.

1428
01:01:35,524 --> 01:01:41,030
But there were several hotels,
public places,

1429
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:43,365
which were
controlled by the KGB.

1430
01:01:43,365 --> 01:01:46,911
And if necessary,
the special operations

1431
01:01:46,911 --> 01:01:50,831
would be provided by the
KGB inside these hotels,

1432
01:01:50,831 --> 01:01:54,919
where they would control the
personal behavior and everything

1433
01:01:54,919 --> 01:01:57,963
of the people who
they were interested in,

1434
01:01:57,963 --> 01:02:01,179
you know. And that
has not changed much.

1435
01:02:02,469 --> 01:02:05,627
You should not forget
Putin is a former KGB guy

1436
01:02:05,721 --> 01:02:09,516
and his mentality in
many ways remains the same.

1437
01:02:09,516 --> 01:02:13,812
Trump's reputation in the
circles which I am familiar

1438
01:02:13,812 --> 01:02:18,525
with inside the U.S.
you know, is not a good one.

1439
01:02:18,525 --> 01:02:21,904
The fact that Trump
was interested in the

1440
01:02:21,904 --> 01:02:25,741
Russian, well,
female community, let's put it

1441
01:02:25,741 --> 01:02:27,619
this way, is a known fact and

1442
01:02:27,631 --> 01:02:29,912
it's known to the
U.S government.

1443
01:02:29,912 --> 01:02:32,425
I know the U.S
government was informed

1444
01:02:32,437 --> 01:02:34,833
about it by the
Russian authorities.

1445
01:02:34,833 --> 01:02:35,918
I would say that

1446
01:02:35,919 --> 01:02:40,564
Mr. Putin is rather discreet
because if he starts

1447
01:02:40,589 --> 01:02:45,928
sharing this information widely
he may be in trouble himself.

1448
01:02:45,928 --> 01:02:48,117
Because there is also
information about

1449
01:02:48,142 --> 01:02:50,707
President Putin as well.
(laughs)

1450
01:02:50,953 --> 01:02:52,233
(dramatic music)

1451
01:02:52,851 --> 01:02:54,328
Through my experience leading

1452
01:02:54,340 --> 01:02:56,188
counterintelligence
investigations

1453
01:02:56,188 --> 01:02:59,274
for the FBI working
against the Russian

1454
01:02:59,274 --> 01:03:02,695
intelligence services,
I can tell you

1455
01:03:02,695 --> 01:03:05,155
that it would shock me to learn

1456
01:03:05,155 --> 01:03:08,283
that there is no file

1457
01:03:08,283 --> 01:03:12,037
on Donald Trump in Moscow

1458
01:03:12,037 --> 01:03:15,749
and at Russian intelligence
service headquarters.

1459
01:03:15,749 --> 01:03:19,545
In fact,
that would be a complete

1460
01:03:19,545 --> 01:03:22,506
anomaly from how
they conduct themselves

1461
01:03:22,506 --> 01:03:25,214
when they spot,
assess and ultimately

1462
01:03:25,226 --> 01:03:27,302
target American businessmen,

1463
01:03:27,302 --> 01:03:30,347
American candidates
for office at all levels.

1464
01:03:30,347 --> 01:03:32,766
So I've never been
in the rumor business,

1465
01:03:32,766 --> 01:03:35,853
but we certainly are aware,
right, that

1466
01:03:35,853 --> 01:03:39,648
as a public that there's this

1467
01:03:39,648 --> 01:03:44,611
accusation, allegation out
there that somehow Trump

1468
01:03:44,611 --> 01:03:49,199
may have been compromised
with prostitutes in a hotel room

1469
01:03:49,199 --> 01:03:52,509
at the Ritz-Carlton,
Moscow, in or

1470
01:03:52,521 --> 01:03:55,748
around the Miss
Universe pageant.

1471
01:03:55,748 --> 01:03:57,666
The Ritz-Carlton, Moscow,

1472
01:03:57,666 --> 01:04:00,669
and other westernized hotels

1473
01:04:00,669 --> 01:04:02,800
in Russia,
are highly compromised by

1474
01:04:02,812 --> 01:04:04,840
the Russian
intelligence services.

1475
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,468
You are under audio
and video surveillance

1476
01:04:07,468 --> 01:04:11,221
much of the time in such hotels.

1477
01:04:11,221 --> 01:04:15,225
And if such a thing happened
or something like that happened,

1478
01:04:15,225 --> 01:04:19,229
it would almost definitely
have been recorded.

1479
01:04:19,229 --> 01:04:21,233
Trump's reaction
to the allegation

1480
01:04:21,245 --> 01:04:22,858
only added to the curiosity

1481
01:04:22,858 --> 01:04:26,737
of former FBI Chief Comey
and former Agent Stzrok.

1482
01:04:26,737 --> 01:04:28,614
He says he may
want me to investigate it

1483
01:04:28,626 --> 01:04:30,365
to prove that
it didn't happen.

1484
01:04:30,365 --> 01:04:32,761
And then he says, something that

1485
01:04:32,786 --> 01:04:34,344
distracted me because he said,
you know,

1486
01:04:34,369 --> 01:04:36,073
if there's even a
1% chance my wife

1487
01:04:36,098 --> 01:04:39,541
thinks that's true,
that's terrible.

1488
01:04:39,541 --> 01:04:41,776
And I, and I remember thinking,
how could

1489
01:04:41,788 --> 01:04:44,254
your wife think there's
a 1% chance you were

1490
01:04:44,254 --> 01:04:46,757
with prostitutes peeing
on each other in Moscow?

1491
01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:49,374
I'm a flawed human being, but

1492
01:04:49,635 --> 01:04:51,458
there’s literally
zero chance that

1493
01:04:51,470 --> 01:04:53,305
my wife would
think that was true.

1494
01:04:53,305 --> 01:04:54,515
So what kind of marriage

1495
01:04:54,515 --> 01:04:56,058
to what kind of man
does your wife think

1496
01:04:56,058 --> 01:04:58,644
there's only a 99%
chance you didn't do that?

1497
01:04:58,811 --> 01:05:01,355
His response was
there were no prostitutes,

1498
01:05:01,355 --> 01:05:02,706
there were never
any prostitutes.

1499
01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:06,459
If you didn't,
if that information,

1500
01:05:06,610 --> 01:05:09,613
if that activity
had not occurred,

1501
01:05:09,613 --> 01:05:10,864
a logical person,

1502
01:05:10,864 --> 01:05:13,200
your response
is... if I accuse you,

1503
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,620
if I accuse anybody of something
that's absolutely wrong,

1504
01:05:16,620 --> 01:05:18,211
people tend to
get angry and they

1505
01:05:18,223 --> 01:05:19,873
flat out deny it.
Never happened.

1506
01:05:19,898 --> 01:05:21,942
That's wrong.
Absolutely not.

1507
01:05:21,975 --> 01:05:24,645
But to sort of hedge and say,

1508
01:05:24,670 --> 01:05:27,565
there were no prostitutes,
is a very,

1509
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:29,733
is a very unusual response.

1510
01:05:29,758 --> 01:05:30,884
And it is a response

1511
01:05:30,884 --> 01:05:33,084
that leads me to
question whether,

1512
01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:35,055
in fact, that event did occur.

1513
01:05:35,055 --> 01:05:37,516
I kind of believe in
the pee pee tapes.

1514
01:05:37,516 --> 01:05:40,561
And I'll tell you why. I
believe in the pee pee tape

1515
01:05:40,561 --> 01:05:45,274
because it's so in character,
and it's the kind of thing

1516
01:05:45,274 --> 01:05:48,152
that you wouldn't even think to
make up, you know what I mean?

1517
01:05:48,152 --> 01:05:50,098
Like, if I was going
to make something up

1518
01:05:50,110 --> 01:05:52,114
like, oh, whatever,
he was with women and,

1519
01:05:52,114 --> 01:05:55,325
you know, they've been using
that kompromat for years, right?

1520
01:05:55,325 --> 01:05:57,035
They get you in a hotel
and they photograph you

1521
01:05:57,035 --> 01:05:59,359
with a... having sex
with someone, like that's

1522
01:05:59,371 --> 01:06:01,373
their standard
operating procedure.

1523
01:06:01,373 --> 01:06:02,652
But what Trump wanted the

1524
01:06:02,664 --> 01:06:04,626
prostitutes to do
was pee on the bed

1525
01:06:04,626 --> 01:06:05,919
because Obama had been there

1526
01:06:05,919 --> 01:06:09,173
and he just hated Obama so much
he just wanted to piss on Obama?

1527
01:06:09,173 --> 01:06:11,842
Only a malignant
narcissist would be that sick.

1528
01:06:11,842 --> 01:06:13,343
I mean,
just have sex with the women.

1529
01:06:13,343 --> 01:06:15,012
But you know,
that would be normal.

1530
01:06:15,012 --> 01:06:17,264
So for him, it's more

1531
01:06:17,264 --> 01:06:19,308
sexually exciting

1532
01:06:19,308 --> 01:06:21,989
to pee on Obama's bed,
right, than

1533
01:06:22,001 --> 01:06:24,771
to have sex with
a beautiful woman.

1534
01:06:24,771 --> 01:06:26,815
That's... a perversion.

1535
01:06:26,815 --> 01:06:29,818
And that's exactly the
way in which he is perverse.

1536
01:06:29,860 --> 01:06:31,635
And so it became apparent to me

1537
01:06:31,647 --> 01:06:33,780
very early on that
this was someone

1538
01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:36,060
who was extremely
dangerous.

1539
01:06:36,409 --> 01:06:38,598
Not just someone who
had a mental illness,

1540
01:06:38,702 --> 01:06:40,523
but someone who literally had

1541
01:06:40,535 --> 01:06:42,748
the most dangerous
mental illness

1542
01:06:42,748 --> 01:06:44,674
a person can have.

1543
01:06:45,417 --> 01:06:47,336
And still be capable

1544
01:06:47,336 --> 01:06:50,000
of actually carrying out
the office of president.

1545
01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:52,221
Malignant narcissism
is actually not

1546
01:06:52,244 --> 01:06:54,301
a diagnosis you'll
find in the DSM.

1547
01:06:54,301 --> 01:06:56,678
It was actually introduced
by the famed analyst

1548
01:06:56,678 --> 01:07:00,432
Erich Fromm, who himself
escaped the Nazis in the 40s.

1549
01:07:00,432 --> 01:07:04,311
And he invented the diagnosis
or came up with the diagnosis

1550
01:07:04,311 --> 01:07:07,122
to explain the
psychology of Hitler and

1551
01:07:07,134 --> 01:07:09,816
other malignant
narcissistic leaders,

1552
01:07:09,816 --> 01:07:12,382
other grandiose,
murderous leaders who

1553
01:07:12,394 --> 01:07:14,905
have been with us
throughout history.

1554
01:07:14,905 --> 01:07:16,865
So Hitler was not a one-off.

1555
01:07:16,865 --> 01:07:18,624
He was maybe the worst or most

1556
01:07:18,636 --> 01:07:20,702
extreme example,
but he's a type,

1557
01:07:20,702 --> 01:07:22,955
and that's what
Fromm was saying.

1558
01:07:22,955 --> 01:07:27,876
And the type basically has four
components: one, narcissism.

1559
01:07:27,876 --> 01:07:30,337
Obviously, we all know
Trump's a narcissist,

1560
01:07:30,337 --> 01:07:31,807
but the other three components

1561
01:07:31,819 --> 01:07:33,548
are equally
important: paranoia.

1562
01:07:33,548 --> 01:07:36,969
So his constant feeling
that he is being persecuted,

1563
01:07:36,969 --> 01:07:39,846
he is constantly
feeling aggrieved.

1564
01:07:39,846 --> 01:07:43,600
His projection onto
other people that they are,

1565
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,922
whether they're
minorities or his

1566
01:07:45,934 --> 01:07:48,063
opponents, that they are evil.

1567
01:07:48,063 --> 01:07:52,150
And therefore deserving
of terrible punishment.

1568
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:53,902
All of that is part
of his paranoia.

1569
01:07:53,902 --> 01:07:55,754
And, of course,
his crazy conspiracy

1570
01:07:55,766 --> 01:07:57,781
theories are also
part of his paranoia.

1571
01:07:57,781 --> 01:08:01,326
And the third component is
antisocial personality disorder,

1572
01:08:01,326 --> 01:08:03,252
or what used to be
called psychopathy.

1573
01:08:03,659 --> 01:08:06,790
Meaning that he
has no moral center.

1574
01:08:06,790 --> 01:08:09,293
He's a constant liar.

1575
01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:13,327
He violates the rights
of others, exploits others,

1576
01:08:13,381 --> 01:08:15,804
has no sense of
guilt or anxiety

1577
01:08:15,808 --> 01:08:18,343
about the bad
things that he does.

1578
01:08:18,343 --> 01:08:21,179
So that's the criminal
personality disorder, basically.

1579
01:08:21,179 --> 01:08:23,473
And all of the people in jail,
most of them have antisocial

1580
01:08:23,473 --> 01:08:24,808
personality disorders.

1581
01:08:24,808 --> 01:08:27,261
And the fourth
component is... sadism,

1582
01:08:27,273 --> 01:08:29,396
that he actually gets pleasure

1583
01:08:29,396 --> 01:08:32,016
from harming his
enemies or taking

1584
01:08:32,028 --> 01:08:34,735
revenge or
humiliating other people

1585
01:08:34,735 --> 01:08:37,863
or subjugating them,
dominating them

1586
01:08:37,863 --> 01:08:41,158
in ways that are humiliating
and show his great power.

1587
01:08:41,158 --> 01:08:43,047
I recognized early on that this

1588
01:08:43,059 --> 01:08:46,315
was a very, very dangerous,
Hitler-like character.

1589
01:08:46,496 --> 01:08:48,771
And so that's really
kind of part of how

1590
01:08:48,783 --> 01:08:50,959
the 'duty to warn
movement' got started.

1591
01:08:50,959 --> 01:08:52,169
It's not just an
ethical principle,

1592
01:08:52,169 --> 01:08:54,428
it's a legal law
that if you become

1593
01:08:54,440 --> 01:08:57,090
aware that a patient
might hurt somebody,

1594
01:08:57,090 --> 01:08:59,217
you have a duty
to warn that person.

1595
01:08:59,217 --> 01:09:03,055
Hence, our feeling was, if we
have a duty to warn one person

1596
01:09:03,055 --> 01:09:04,875
because as mental
health professionals

1597
01:09:04,887 --> 01:09:06,391
we realize they may be at risk,

1598
01:09:06,391 --> 01:09:08,357
what's our duty to
300 million people?

1599
01:09:08,819 --> 01:09:09,819
(laughs)

1600
01:09:10,329 --> 01:09:12,247
It's got to be 300
million times greater.

1601
01:09:12,272 --> 01:09:15,275
So then, what is Trump's
defense to the allegation?

1602
01:09:15,275 --> 01:09:17,861
Does anyone really
believe that story?

1603
01:09:17,861 --> 01:09:21,156
I'm also very much of a
germaphobe, by the way.

1604
01:09:21,156 --> 01:09:23,116
Believe me.

1605
01:09:23,116 --> 01:09:24,159
I had to explain...

1606
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:27,079
they said, sir, they said
when you were in Russia...

1607
01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:29,998
well, I was there for
so short a period...

1608
01:09:29,998 --> 01:09:32,793
Trump tried to claim that he
didn't stay overnight in Russia

1609
01:09:32,793 --> 01:09:35,346
during the night in question,
but flight

1610
01:09:35,358 --> 01:09:37,923
records later revealed
that to be false.

1611
01:09:37,923 --> 01:09:39,299
Big surprise. Right?

1612
01:09:39,299 --> 01:09:43,261
And they said this thing
with the golden shower,

1613
01:09:43,261 --> 01:09:45,597
and I said I didn't care
about the other stuff.

1614
01:09:45,597 --> 01:09:49,101
The other stuff was,
you know, nuclear...

1615
01:09:49,101 --> 01:09:50,227
I didn't worry about that.

1616
01:09:50,227 --> 01:09:52,455
The golden shower
was a problem for me.

1617
01:09:54,064 --> 01:09:56,858
And I said to our
great first lady...

1618
01:09:56,858 --> 01:09:59,277
She said, nope,
that one you didn't do.

1619
01:09:59,277 --> 01:10:00,529
See, I'm a germaphobe.

1620
01:10:00,529 --> 01:10:02,572
She said, that
one you didn't do.

1621
01:10:02,597 --> 01:10:04,683
So she knew immediately
- I had no problem.

1622
01:10:05,326 --> 01:10:07,696
I said, whew,
that was a close one.

1623
01:10:07,786 --> 01:10:08,928
That wasn't good.

1624
01:10:09,414 --> 01:10:11,164
Actually, that one she
didn't believe

1625
01:10:11,164 --> 01:10:13,583
because she said he's a
germaphobe. He's not into that,

1626
01:10:13,583 --> 01:10:14,938
you know?

1627
01:10:15,156 --> 01:10:16,436
(brooding music)

1628
01:10:17,771 --> 01:10:20,190
He's not into golden showers,
as they say

1629
01:10:20,215 --> 01:10:21,697
they call them. He's not.

1630
01:10:22,467 --> 01:10:23,971
I don't like that idea.

1631
01:10:26,431 --> 01:10:28,240
No, I didn't. I thought that
would be a big problem.

1632
01:10:28,265 --> 01:10:29,963
I was going to
have a rough night,

1633
01:10:29,975 --> 01:10:31,685
but that one she
was very good on.

1634
01:10:31,685 --> 01:10:35,313
She said, no,
you're okay on that one.

1635
01:10:35,313 --> 01:10:37,399
So what do you think?
Should we believe him?

1636
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:40,553
I say we ask someone
who might just know: me.

1637
01:10:40,820 --> 01:10:43,660
But then the defense is,
oh, there's no way he

1638
01:10:43,663 --> 01:10:46,324
would ever do that
because he's a germaphobe.

1639
01:10:46,324 --> 01:10:47,576
And, you know,
that's one of the things

1640
01:10:47,576 --> 01:10:49,202
that people try to say
that I'm making it up

1641
01:10:49,202 --> 01:10:51,301
because he's such a germaphobe,
that he wouldn't...

1642
01:10:51,544 --> 01:10:52,544
(laughs)

1643
01:10:53,749 --> 01:10:55,892
In my multiple encounters

1644
01:10:55,917 --> 01:10:59,463
with him, he was
definitely not a germaphobe.

1645
01:10:59,463 --> 01:11:02,632
He definitely stuck his little
pointy tongue in my mouth.

1646
01:11:02,632 --> 01:11:04,280
He's the worst kisser on earth,

1647
01:11:04,292 --> 01:11:06,219
but definitely an
open-mouth kiss.

1648
01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:09,721
And didn't even
volunteer to use a condom.

1649
01:11:09,807 --> 01:11:12,534
Not only did he not use a
condom or offer to use a condom,

1650
01:11:12,559 --> 01:11:14,936
he didn't even discuss
the possibility of it.

1651
01:11:14,936 --> 01:11:16,676
I mean,
he doesn't even know if I washed

1652
01:11:16,688 --> 01:11:18,482
my hands when I came
out of the bathroom.

1653
01:11:18,482 --> 01:11:20,520
He just pounced
there in his underwear

1654
01:11:20,532 --> 01:11:22,319
when I came out
and surprised me.

1655
01:11:22,611 --> 01:11:25,572
Now, I gotta say, if you're
not the one getting peed on,

1656
01:11:25,572 --> 01:11:27,158
being a germaphobe
really doesn't

1657
01:11:27,170 --> 01:11:28,533
have anything to do with it.

1658
01:11:28,533 --> 01:11:30,160
If they're across the room,

1659
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,370
that's not touching you anyway.

1660
01:11:32,370 --> 01:11:34,831
So does Trump not
always tell the truth?

1661
01:11:34,831 --> 01:11:36,541
Well, let's ask an expert.

1662
01:11:36,541 --> 01:11:39,961
So I wrote up all
of these findings

1663
01:11:39,961 --> 01:11:45,175
for the Washington Post in
an op-ed titled I Study Liars.

1664
01:11:45,175 --> 01:11:49,971
I've never seen one like
President Trump. At this point,

1665
01:11:49,971 --> 01:11:53,558
the first year of his
presidency, he was telling

1666
01:11:53,558 --> 01:11:57,437
an average of
about six lies a day.

1667
01:11:57,437 --> 01:12:00,315
And I thought that
was remarkable.

1668
01:12:00,315 --> 01:12:03,985
You know, that was so much
more than ordinary people.

1669
01:12:03,985 --> 01:12:08,823
He was just getting started for
a grand total over the course

1670
01:12:08,823 --> 01:12:15,330
of his presidency, of 30,573

1671
01:12:15,330 --> 01:12:18,667
lies, flip flops,
or misleading statements.

1672
01:12:18,667 --> 01:12:21,545
It's absolutely

1673
01:12:21,545 --> 01:12:22,837
astounding.

1674
01:12:22,837 --> 01:12:29,177
A lie happens any time you
intentionally mislead someone.

1675
01:12:29,177 --> 01:12:32,055
So people lie for
lots of reasons.

1676
01:12:32,055 --> 01:12:37,018
But ordinary people
lie for two main reasons.

1677
01:12:37,018 --> 01:12:42,107
The first is, they lie
to serve themselves.

1678
01:12:42,155 --> 01:12:44,275
They lie to get
what they want,

1679
01:12:44,318 --> 01:12:47,422
to look better,
to spare themselves

1680
01:12:47,487 --> 01:12:52,117
from embarrassment or shame
or blame or anything negative.

1681
01:12:52,117 --> 01:12:55,829
So it's all about themselves.

1682
01:12:55,829 --> 01:12:59,791
They also lie to be
nice to other people.

1683
01:12:59,791 --> 01:13:02,794
They lie to flatter
other people,

1684
01:13:02,794 --> 01:13:07,215
to advantage them, to be
kind to them, to spare them

1685
01:13:07,215 --> 01:13:11,261
from any embarrassment
or conflict or anything else

1686
01:13:11,261 --> 01:13:13,346
other people don't want.

1687
01:13:13,346 --> 01:13:16,961
When I studied
my ordinary people,

1688
01:13:17,059 --> 01:13:19,888
there was a category
of a kind of lie

1689
01:13:19,936 --> 01:13:25,317
that hardly anyone told,
and that was a cruel lie.

1690
01:13:25,317 --> 01:13:30,071
A lie told to be mean to
someone else, to disparage them,

1691
01:13:30,071 --> 01:13:34,868
to make them look like a fool,
to hurt them, to insult them.

1692
01:13:34,868 --> 01:13:37,621
The Atlantic magazine published

1693
01:13:37,621 --> 01:13:40,665
an article with the title

1694
01:13:40,665 --> 01:13:44,044
'The Cruelty is the Point.'

1695
01:13:44,044 --> 01:13:47,005
And so as we got to
know Trump better,

1696
01:13:47,005 --> 01:13:50,967
we realized this is who he is.

1697
01:13:50,967 --> 01:13:53,219
The cruelty is the point.

1698
01:13:53,219 --> 01:13:56,598
I think one of the motivations

1699
01:13:56,598 --> 01:14:00,310
behind Trump's
cruelty and his lies

1700
01:14:00,310 --> 01:14:04,064
is that he loves shock value.

1701
01:14:04,064 --> 01:14:09,110
And, it's not just that
he's shocking people,

1702
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:10,911
although that's
a big part of it,

1703
01:14:10,936 --> 01:14:14,199
but that his followers love it.

1704
01:14:14,199 --> 01:14:16,534
Trump is just like,

1705
01:14:16,534 --> 01:14:20,622
here I am, I'm going
to say whatever I want.

1706
01:14:20,622 --> 01:14:22,231
And if Trump is
re-elected?

1707
01:14:22,255 --> 01:14:23,580
Oh my God!

1708
01:14:24,918 --> 01:14:29,381
Oh, that is so
horrifying a prospect.

1709
01:14:29,381 --> 01:14:32,008
And I guess I would say,
you know,

1710
01:14:32,033 --> 01:14:33,778
as if there were any
limits before,

1711
01:14:33,803 --> 01:14:36,387
there wouldn't be any now.

1712
01:14:36,888 --> 01:14:41,518
But, I guess the
one difference is that

1713
01:14:41,518 --> 01:14:44,066
I think, or at least hope,
that the

1714
01:14:44,091 --> 01:14:47,565
media would be
a little bit savvier.

1715
01:14:47,565 --> 01:14:50,360
I mean, I remember having,

1716
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,882
you know, the networks on
or CNN on

1717
01:14:54,907 --> 01:14:58,169
in the background when I was
doing something, and they would

1718
01:14:58,201 --> 01:15:02,163
show shots of Trump's plane

1719
01:15:02,163 --> 01:15:05,166
arriving for one of his rallies.

1720
01:15:05,166 --> 01:15:07,669
This was before he
was elected president.

1721
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:11,715
You know, he had them
twisted around his finger.

1722
01:15:11,715 --> 01:15:13,904
They gave him so
much free media,

1723
01:15:13,916 --> 01:15:16,052
and they didn't know how to deal

1724
01:15:16,052 --> 01:15:19,597
with all these lies
and this brazenness.

1725
01:15:19,597 --> 01:15:22,694
It even took them a while
to call the lies, lies, right?

1726
01:15:22,768 --> 01:15:23,774
(brooding music)

1727
01:15:23,810 --> 01:15:25,854
So Trump's claim of
being a germaphobe?

1728
01:15:25,854 --> 01:15:27,662
I'm also very much
of a germaphobe,

1729
01:15:27,694 --> 01:15:29,762
by the way. Believe me.

1730
01:15:29,807 --> 01:15:31,039
Well, if you want my opinion.

1731
01:15:31,228 --> 01:15:33,184
(laughs)

1732
01:15:34,493 --> 01:15:36,253
(machine rising in
tension)

1733
01:15:36,415 --> 01:15:37,827
(alarm sound)

1734
01:15:37,879 --> 01:15:38,879
(explosion)

1735
01:15:43,496 --> 01:15:45,582
Of course,
the media had a field day

1736
01:15:45,582 --> 01:15:47,020
with the allegation.

1737
01:15:47,790 --> 01:15:50,449
(dramatic choral music)

1738
01:16:00,875 --> 01:16:02,555
(choral music crescendos)

1739
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,448
Hey, ABC news,
I'd like to ask you

1740
01:16:10,460 --> 01:16:12,609
about your big
Russian pee pee party.

1741
01:16:12,609 --> 01:16:14,816
No, no, I am not talking
about the pee pee...

1742
01:16:14,895 --> 01:16:15,895
(laughing)

1743
01:16:16,488 --> 01:16:18,573
because it didn't happen,

1744
01:16:18,573 --> 01:16:19,866
and it wasn't as
cool as it sounds.

1745
01:16:19,866 --> 01:16:21,034
Next question.

1746
01:16:21,034 --> 01:16:24,871
Room 1101, the presidential
suite of the Ritz Carlton Hotel.

1747
01:16:24,871 --> 01:16:27,582
I rented it. The room
we've heard so much about.

1748
01:16:27,582 --> 01:16:29,793
And yet, no one has
come to check it out.

1749
01:16:29,793 --> 01:16:31,753
I don't know why.

1750
01:16:31,753 --> 01:16:33,922
It's not even like
it's in the past.

1751
01:16:33,922 --> 01:16:35,544
You're in history.

1752
01:16:35,569 --> 01:16:36,569
(laughing)

1753
01:16:36,674 --> 01:16:38,343
You're in it.

1754
01:16:38,343 --> 01:16:40,711
I'm saying the pee
pee tape supposedly

1755
01:16:40,723 --> 01:16:43,348
took place on that
bed is what I'm saying.

1756
01:16:43,348 --> 01:16:46,142
Pee pee tape, pee pee tape.

1757
01:16:46,143 --> 01:16:47,190
Roll 'em.

1758
01:16:49,385 --> 01:16:51,175
(sniggering)

1759
01:17:00,783 --> 01:17:01,783
(laughing)

1760
01:17:02,158 --> 01:17:04,661
I am Samantha Bee.

1761
01:17:04,661 --> 01:17:06,120
Welcome to Full Frontal.

1762
01:17:06,247 --> 01:17:09,350
Hallelujah!
It's comedy Christmas!

1763
01:17:09,375 --> 01:17:10,892
Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God!

1764
01:17:10,923 --> 01:17:13,372
Il Duce likes to douse
beds in floozy pee.

1765
01:17:13,419 --> 01:17:14,419
(laughing)

1766
01:17:14,546 --> 01:17:18,925
Of course, the true victim here
is that memory foam mattress.

1767
01:17:18,925 --> 01:17:21,135
It... can't ever forget.

1768
01:17:21,225 --> 01:17:23,225
(indistinct dialogue)
(laughing)

1769
01:17:23,972 --> 01:17:26,432
So how did the media
handle the allegation?

1770
01:17:26,432 --> 01:17:28,060
Well, the media
completely dropped

1771
01:17:28,072 --> 01:17:29,853
the ball with the
issue of kompromat.

1772
01:17:29,854 --> 01:17:33,370
You're right, the salacious
pee pee tape, you know, idea...

1773
01:17:34,233 --> 01:17:35,500
Whatever's on the tape,

1774
01:17:35,525 --> 01:17:37,234
the important thing
is that our president

1775
01:17:37,259 --> 01:17:40,446
is compromised by
a foreign adversary.

1776
01:17:40,446 --> 01:17:41,614
That's the important thing.

1777
01:17:41,614 --> 01:17:42,970
I don't care what's on the tape.

1778
01:17:42,992 --> 01:17:44,206
What I care about
is that our

1779
01:17:44,217 --> 01:17:46,183
president is working
for the enemy.

1780
01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:47,887
Christopher Steele

1781
01:17:47,912 --> 01:17:50,623
thinks he knows why
nobody has seen the tape.

1782
01:17:50,623 --> 01:17:54,002
So how do you explain if
that tape does indeed exist,

1783
01:17:54,002 --> 01:17:55,336
it hasn't been released?

1784
01:17:55,336 --> 01:17:56,743
Well, it hasn't needed
to be released.

1785
01:17:56,767 --> 01:17:57,755
Why not?

1786
01:17:57,755 --> 01:17:59,947
Because I think the
Russians felt they got

1787
01:17:59,959 --> 01:18:02,010
pretty good value
out of Donald Trump..

1788
01:18:02,010 --> 01:18:03,177
when he was
president of the U.S.

1789
01:18:03,177 --> 01:18:07,599
In 2019, a mysterious
videotape appeared online.

1790
01:18:07,599 --> 01:18:09,985
The video escaped the
attention of the media

1791
01:18:09,997 --> 01:18:12,395
except for one online magazine.

1792
01:18:13,688 --> 01:18:17,233
After an exhaustive review
of the tape, Slate magazine

1793
01:18:17,233 --> 01:18:19,527
determined that it was a fake.

1794
01:18:21,404 --> 01:18:22,864
Probably.

1795
01:18:22,864 --> 01:18:24,763
The Senate
Intelligence Committee

1796
01:18:24,775 --> 01:18:26,910
said that it was
aware of a realistic

1797
01:18:26,910 --> 01:18:29,517
and well- resourced
but fake video

1798
01:18:29,529 --> 01:18:31,998
of someone who looks like Trump.

1799
01:18:31,998 --> 01:18:34,834
The Senate never told us
why they thought it was a fake.

1800
01:18:34,834 --> 01:18:38,546
The rest of the footnote in
their report? It was redacted.

1801
01:18:38,546 --> 01:18:40,965
So why does Trump keep
talking about the tape?

1802
01:18:40,965 --> 01:18:42,967
I'm not into golden showers...

1803
01:18:42,967 --> 01:18:44,556
The golden shower...golden

1804
01:18:44,568 --> 01:18:46,846
shower...golden
showers as they say

1805
01:18:46,846 --> 01:18:49,057
they call them.

1806
01:18:49,057 --> 01:18:50,934
Trump does protest too much.

1807
01:18:50,959 --> 01:18:52,752
He keeps bringing
up the pee pee tape.

1808
01:18:52,894 --> 01:18:53,811
Right.

1809
01:18:53,811 --> 01:18:55,448
If it were really
just ridiculous like

1810
01:18:55,473 --> 01:18:56,738
you would just
sort of dismiss it.

1811
01:18:56,815 --> 01:18:57,707
You wouldn't keep...

1812
01:18:57,732 --> 01:19:00,546
But again, everything with Trump
is projection or confession.

1813
01:19:00,694 --> 01:19:02,659
You know? So the fact that he
keeps bringing it up

1814
01:19:02,695 --> 01:19:05,281
is another one of the reasons
to believe that it's true.

1815
01:19:05,281 --> 01:19:07,325
The fact that he keeps
bringing it up to deny it.

1816
01:19:07,325 --> 01:19:09,869
Could the tape actually be real?

1817
01:19:09,906 --> 01:19:11,684
What might it look like?

1818
01:19:11,791 --> 01:19:14,148
(fanfare)

1819
01:19:29,275 --> 01:19:30,829
(urgent music)

1820
01:19:38,606 --> 01:19:41,734
Mr. Trump, welcome to Moscow!

1821
01:19:41,734 --> 01:19:43,152
Hi girls.

1822
01:19:43,152 --> 01:19:44,612
No one's taping this, right?

1823
01:19:44,612 --> 01:19:46,572
Don't worry. In Russia,

1824
01:19:46,572 --> 01:19:48,908
we would never tape anyone.

1825
01:19:48,908 --> 01:19:50,910
Everyone is free now,

1826
01:19:50,910 --> 01:19:52,537
anything goes.

1827
01:19:52,537 --> 01:19:53,955
Okay, great.

1828
01:19:53,955 --> 01:19:55,878
I like the sound of that.

1829
01:19:55,903 --> 01:19:58,229
Whoa! Who's that for,
the Hulk?

1830
01:19:58,253 --> 01:19:59,460
Oligarchs.

1831
01:19:59,460 --> 01:20:01,629
They want much of everything.

1832
01:20:01,629 --> 01:20:05,508
Big mansions,
big yachts, big party.

1833
01:20:05,509 --> 01:20:08,194
Hey, the oligarchs are
welcome at Mar-A-Lago

1834
01:20:08,219 --> 01:20:10,805
any time Melania is away.

1835
01:20:10,805 --> 01:20:11,973
So that's the one?

1836
01:20:11,973 --> 01:20:14,618
That's the bed Obama slept in?

1837
01:20:14,630 --> 01:20:15,945
I'm supposed
to believe that?

1838
01:20:16,383 --> 01:20:17,383
Yes.

1839
01:20:17,729 --> 01:20:19,772
Okay, good enough for me.

1840
01:20:19,772 --> 01:20:22,025
Let's get to it!

1841
01:20:22,025 --> 01:20:25,945
I am starting to like Russia.

1842
01:20:25,945 --> 01:20:30,158
Cloudy with a chance of rain,
if you know what I mean.

1843
01:20:30,158 --> 01:20:32,577
Beautiful. Just beautiful.

1844
01:20:32,577 --> 01:20:33,995
Might have to move here.

1845
01:20:33,995 --> 01:20:36,248
Donald, take off your
clothes.

1846
01:20:36,272 --> 01:20:38,444
Me? No way!

1847
01:20:38,791 --> 01:20:40,043
Oh, okay,

1848
01:20:40,043 --> 01:20:41,806
if you insist.

1849
01:20:42,545 --> 01:20:44,714
If I ever run for president

1850
01:20:44,739 --> 01:20:48,512
and this leaks out,
it'll be political suicide.

1851
01:20:48,635 --> 01:20:52,155
Wait a minute, I know. I'll
tell people I'm a germaphobe

1852
01:20:52,180 --> 01:20:54,724
who'd never do
anything like this.

1853
01:20:54,724 --> 01:20:56,017
Genius!

1854
01:20:56,017 --> 01:20:57,560
Want to give it a try?

1855
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,563
Don't have to ask
me twice, girls.

1856
01:21:00,605 --> 01:21:02,356
Take that, Barack.

1857
01:21:02,356 --> 01:21:05,151
And this is for Michelle.

1858
01:21:05,151 --> 01:21:07,570
And once more for Barack.

1859
01:21:07,570 --> 01:21:10,865
Hey, I gotta tell my
son Barney about this.

1860
01:21:10,865 --> 01:21:12,102
I mean Barron.

1861
01:21:12,126 --> 01:21:13,890
Now, on you!

1862
01:21:13,914 --> 01:21:15,745
Let it flow, ladies.

1863
01:21:15,745 --> 01:21:17,413
World class,

1864
01:21:17,413 --> 01:21:18,581
believe me.

1865
01:21:18,581 --> 01:21:21,375
Best flow job ever.

1866
01:21:21,375 --> 01:21:25,671
Wow, Melania will never
believe this... luckily.

1867
01:21:25,928 --> 01:21:28,768
Next time, girls,
how about a brown bath?

1868
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,011
Ohh, I am so going to hell.

1869
01:21:32,011 --> 01:21:36,599
Okay, a little to the left,
a little more.

1870
01:21:36,599 --> 01:21:37,683
Who am I kidding?

1871
01:21:37,689 --> 01:21:38,875
A lot more!

1872
01:21:38,941 --> 01:21:41,387
(liquid flowing)
(gentle underwater sounds)

1873
01:21:41,652 --> 01:21:43,815
(liquid tension building)
(liquid explosion)

1874
01:21:43,856 --> 01:21:46,317
Whoaa!

1875
01:21:46,317 --> 01:21:49,487
I love Russia!

1876
01:21:49,487 --> 01:21:51,906
The previous animation was fake.

1877
01:21:51,906 --> 01:21:53,282
Probably.

1878
01:21:53,282 --> 01:21:56,536
Many people have noted
Trump's inability to criticize

1879
01:21:56,536 --> 01:22:00,248
Vladimir Putin and
hypothesized as to why.

1880
01:22:00,248 --> 01:22:04,502
Also is a person that kills
journalists, political opponents

1881
01:22:04,502 --> 01:22:07,004
and invades countries.

1882
01:22:07,004 --> 01:22:10,591
Obviously, that would
be a concern, would it not?

1883
01:22:10,591 --> 01:22:12,924
He's running his country
and at least he's a leader.

1884
01:22:12,949 --> 01:22:15,256
You know? Unlike what we
have in this country.

1885
01:22:15,268 --> 01:22:17,163
He'd rather have a
puppet as president

1886
01:22:17,188 --> 01:22:19,112
of the United States.
- No puppet, no puppet.

1887
01:22:19,142 --> 01:22:20,827
- It's pretty clear...
- You're the puppet.

1888
01:22:20,852 --> 01:22:22,728
It's pretty clear
you won't admit

1889
01:22:22,728 --> 01:22:24,802
that the Russians
have engaged in cyber

1890
01:22:24,814 --> 01:22:27,275
attacks against the
United States of America.

1891
01:22:27,275 --> 01:22:32,613
That you encouraged
espionage against our people,

1892
01:22:32,613 --> 01:22:36,117
that you are willing
to spout the Putin line,

1893
01:22:36,117 --> 01:22:38,657
sign up for his wish list,
break up

1894
01:22:38,669 --> 01:22:41,080
NATO, do whatever
he wants to do,

1895
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,626
and that you continue
to get help from him

1896
01:22:45,626 --> 01:22:49,589
because he has a very
clear favorite in this race.

1897
01:22:49,589 --> 01:22:51,966
I mean, I've been with
Trump and Putin.

1898
01:22:51,966 --> 01:22:54,468
Trump is in awe of Putin.

1899
01:22:54,468 --> 01:22:56,532
He's... when you see Trump with

1900
01:22:56,544 --> 01:22:59,265
Putin, as I have on a
few occasions,

1901
01:22:59,265 --> 01:23:03,144
he's like the 12 year old boy

1902
01:23:03,144 --> 01:23:05,215
that goes to high
school and meets

1903
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:06,811
the captain of
the football team.

1904
01:23:06,881 --> 01:23:07,881
(laughing)

1905
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:10,693
My hero.

1906
01:23:10,693 --> 01:23:12,862
I sadly beseech President Trump

1907
01:23:12,862 --> 01:23:16,324
to apologize to the
American people for...

1908
01:23:16,324 --> 01:23:19,847
his disgraceful,
dangerous, and damaging

1909
01:23:19,859 --> 01:23:22,705
behavior with Putin in Helsinki.

1910
01:23:22,705 --> 01:23:24,540
What was he afraid of?

1911
01:23:24,540 --> 01:23:26,500
President Trump,
you first.

1912
01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:29,253
Just now, President Putin
denied having anything to do

1913
01:23:29,253 --> 01:23:32,173
with the election interference
in 2016. Every U.S.

1914
01:23:32,173 --> 01:23:33,924
intelligence agency
has concluded

1915
01:23:33,949 --> 01:23:36,886
that Russia did. What, who...

1916
01:23:36,886 --> 01:23:39,931
my first question for you,
sir, is who do you believe?

1917
01:23:39,931 --> 01:23:41,814
My second question is, would you

1918
01:23:41,826 --> 01:23:44,018
now, with the whole
world watching,

1919
01:23:44,018 --> 01:23:47,563
tell President Putin, would you
denounce what happened in 2016

1920
01:23:47,563 --> 01:23:49,398
and would you warn
him to never do it again?

1921
01:23:49,398 --> 01:23:51,275
All I can do is
ask the question.

1922
01:23:51,275 --> 01:23:53,402
My people came to me,

1923
01:23:53,402 --> 01:23:55,569
Dan Coats came to
me and some others,

1924
01:23:55,581 --> 01:23:57,531
they said they
think it's Russia.

1925
01:23:57,531 --> 01:24:00,868
I have President Putin.

1926
01:24:00,868 --> 01:24:02,870
He just said it's not Russia.

1927
01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:03,871
I will say this -

1928
01:24:03,871 --> 01:24:06,207
I don't see any
reason why it would be.

1929
01:24:06,207 --> 01:24:08,934
I will tell you that
President Putin

1930
01:24:08,946 --> 01:24:11,462
was extremely
strong and powerful

1931
01:24:11,462 --> 01:24:12,769
in his denial today.

1932
01:24:12,793 --> 01:24:14,382
When they talked about
did Russia collude?

1933
01:24:14,382 --> 01:24:18,315
He said, well, I don't you know,
he denied it very strongly.

1934
01:24:19,763 --> 01:24:22,604
Denied it very strongly?
What the hell is that?

1935
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,641
I think it's bizarre.

1936
01:24:23,641 --> 01:24:25,893
I think when Trump
was in Helsinki

1937
01:24:25,893 --> 01:24:29,981
and met with Putin and,
you know, agreed with Putin.

1938
01:24:29,981 --> 01:24:31,414
I think it's just crazy
and outrageous

1939
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,777
that this guy's a
bloodthirsty dictator.

1940
01:24:34,777 --> 01:24:39,949
This guy Putin, you know,
he is a skilled KGB agent.

1941
01:24:39,949 --> 01:24:43,369
He basically is manipulating
Trump to do his bidding.

1942
01:24:43,828 --> 01:24:47,081
Putin's influence on
Trump is well known.

1943
01:24:47,081 --> 01:24:52,044
You just have to look at the
pictures of the 2018 Helsinki

1944
01:24:52,044 --> 01:24:54,797
summit and see how
subdued the normally

1945
01:24:54,809 --> 01:24:57,484
boisterous and belligerent
Trump was,

1946
01:24:57,509 --> 01:25:01,265
to know who has the reins
of power in that situation.

1947
01:25:01,643 --> 01:25:04,187
And Trump learned
a lot as a propagandist

1948
01:25:04,223 --> 01:25:08,978
from the Kremlin
playbook of propaganda.

1949
01:25:08,978 --> 01:25:11,023
Because the Kremlin model is

1950
01:25:11,035 --> 01:25:13,607
called the firehose
of falsehood.

1951
01:25:13,607 --> 01:25:17,361
It is a high volume,
constant spewing

1952
01:25:17,361 --> 01:25:22,450
not only of lies,
but of doubt, of uncertainty.

1953
01:25:22,450 --> 01:25:27,747
And Trump is very open in
his slavish admiration of Putin.

1954
01:25:27,747 --> 01:25:31,584
He'll always defend him, even

1955
01:25:31,584 --> 01:25:35,671
at a cost of criticizing
the United States because

1956
01:25:35,671 --> 01:25:37,131
men like

1957
01:25:37,131 --> 01:25:39,491
Putin and Trump
don't actually have

1958
01:25:39,503 --> 01:25:41,677
any respect for their own people

1959
01:25:41,677 --> 01:25:43,225
or their own country, which is

1960
01:25:43,237 --> 01:25:45,056
why they steal
from their people,

1961
01:25:45,056 --> 01:25:46,724
they lie to their people.

1962
01:25:46,724 --> 01:25:49,518
And in Putin's case,
they murder their own people.

1963
01:25:49,518 --> 01:25:52,646
And what they
admire is raw power,

1964
01:25:52,646 --> 01:25:55,232
the ability to get
away with crimes.

1965
01:25:55,232 --> 01:25:59,820
And so for Trump, Putin has
been an enormous success,

1966
01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:02,948
and he would like to have
some of that success himself.

1967
01:26:02,948 --> 01:26:05,541
Trump's former lawyer,
Michael Cohen,

1968
01:26:05,553 --> 01:26:07,953
testified before
Congress in 2018.

1969
01:26:07,953 --> 01:26:11,165
And in doing so,
he provided one potential reason

1970
01:26:11,165 --> 01:26:14,627
why Trump refuses
to criticize Putin.

1971
01:26:14,627 --> 01:26:17,213
I lied to Congress
when Mr. Trump

1972
01:26:17,238 --> 01:26:20,819
stopped negotiating the
Moscow Tower project in Russia.

1973
01:26:20,935 --> 01:26:21,975
(tense music)

1974
01:26:22,385 --> 01:26:24,011
I stated that we stopped

1975
01:26:24,011 --> 01:26:28,057
negotiating in January of 2016.

1976
01:26:28,057 --> 01:26:29,975
That was false.

1977
01:26:29,975 --> 01:26:32,395
Our negotiations continued

1978
01:26:32,395 --> 01:26:35,815
for months later
during the campaign.

1979
01:26:35,815 --> 01:26:37,866
There were at least
a half a dozen times

1980
01:26:37,891 --> 01:26:42,029
between the Iowa
caucus in January of 2016

1981
01:26:42,029 --> 01:26:44,281
and the end of June

1982
01:26:44,281 --> 01:26:47,535
when he would ask me,
how's it going in Russia?

1983
01:26:47,535 --> 01:26:50,913
Referring to the
Moscow Tower project.

1984
01:26:50,913 --> 01:26:55,876
Mr. Trump knew of and directed
the Trump Moscow negotiations

1985
01:26:55,876 --> 01:26:59,839
throughout the
campaign and lied about it.

1986
01:26:59,839 --> 01:27:04,969
He lied about it because
he never expected to win.

1987
01:27:04,969 --> 01:27:09,390
He also lied about it because
he stood to make hundreds

1988
01:27:09,390 --> 01:27:13,894
of millions of dollars on the
Moscow real estate project.

1989
01:27:13,894 --> 01:27:16,790
The fact that Trump was actively

1990
01:27:16,815 --> 01:27:19,823
discussing a deal for a
Trump Tower Moscow

1991
01:27:19,859 --> 01:27:21,459
while he was running for
president,

1992
01:27:21,820 --> 01:27:23,796
and telling the public

1993
01:27:23,821 --> 01:27:26,052
that he was not
pursuing any kind of

1994
01:27:26,064 --> 01:27:28,367
deal with Russia,
really demonstrates

1995
01:27:28,367 --> 01:27:32,705
that he was in an
already-compromised position.

1996
01:27:32,705 --> 01:27:35,791
That's because he was
telling the public one thing,

1997
01:27:35,791 --> 01:27:39,336
and Russia knew that what
he was saying was a lie.

1998
01:27:39,336 --> 01:27:41,426
Which meant that they
had the power to expose

1999
01:27:41,470 --> 01:27:45,193
him at any time and
harm his electoral chances.

2000
01:27:45,384 --> 01:27:48,179
I continue to be fascinated

2001
01:27:48,179 --> 01:27:53,434
by the question around Trump's

2002
01:27:53,434 --> 01:27:55,378
loyalty to Vladimir Putin.

2003
01:27:55,395 --> 01:27:56,276
(brooding music)

2004
01:27:56,298 --> 01:28:00,232
There's many theories out there,
whether he simply

2005
01:28:00,232 --> 01:28:04,820
likes the idea of a strong
authoritarian leader,

2006
01:28:04,820 --> 01:28:07,323
whether he wishes he were
like Putin, whether he wishes

2007
01:28:07,323 --> 01:28:11,160
America was more
like Russia or not,

2008
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:16,832
or whether that's mixed with
his strong desire to do business

2009
01:28:16,832 --> 01:28:20,628
in Russia - well-established.
Or whether or not it's linked

2010
01:28:20,628 --> 01:28:24,757
to numerous reports that
Russia may have helped

2011
01:28:24,757 --> 01:28:27,100
pay off his debt, particularly

2012
01:28:27,112 --> 01:28:30,095
loans associated
with Deutsche Bank.

2013
01:28:30,095 --> 01:28:35,142
Whether he's trying to
curry favor and retain favor

2014
01:28:35,142 --> 01:28:37,053
with a government, a
foreign government

2015
01:28:37,065 --> 01:28:39,813
he knows
aided his campaign

2016
01:28:39,813 --> 01:28:44,610
or attempted to aid his campaign
through Wikileaks' distribution

2017
01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:48,781
- through stealing
communications at DNC,

2018
01:28:48,781 --> 01:28:52,826
ultimately going to Wikileaks,
ultimately being used publicly.

2019
01:28:53,411 --> 01:28:57,739
All of this is likely
the correct answer.

2020
01:28:57,831 --> 01:29:01,272
I think there is
a host of factors

2021
01:29:01,284 --> 01:29:04,046
that give us a Donald Trump

2022
01:29:04,046 --> 01:29:06,715
who has wrapped himself around

2023
01:29:06,715 --> 01:29:09,927
Vladimir Putin to the
point where he's unable

2024
01:29:09,927 --> 01:29:14,974
to honestly critique him
and act in America's interest.

2025
01:29:14,974 --> 01:29:16,934
Trump continues
to wink at Putin.

2026
01:29:16,935 --> 01:29:19,151
One of the presidents of
a big country

2027
01:29:19,187 --> 01:29:21,038
stood up and said,
well, sir,

2028
01:29:21,063 --> 01:29:23,513
if we don't pay
and we're attacked

2029
01:29:23,525 --> 01:29:25,776
by Russia, will you protect us?

2030
01:29:25,776 --> 01:29:29,280
I said, you didn't pay?
You're delinquent?

2031
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,657
He said yes. Let's
say that happened.

2032
01:29:31,657 --> 01:29:33,200
No, I would not protect you.

2033
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:34,693
In fact, I would encourage them

2034
01:29:34,705 --> 01:29:36,216
to do whatever
the hell they want!

2035
01:29:36,246 --> 01:29:38,597
And Putin keeps meddling.

2036
01:29:38,622 --> 01:29:40,696
This morning,
the former FBI informant

2037
01:29:40,708 --> 01:29:42,793
accused of making
false bribery claims

2038
01:29:42,793 --> 01:29:44,846
about President
Biden and his son, Hunter,

2039
01:29:44,858 --> 01:29:46,922
has been released on bond.

2040
01:29:46,922 --> 01:29:48,173
Alexander Smirnoff is

2041
01:29:48,173 --> 01:29:49,819
seen here in the
blue hoodie leaving

2042
01:29:49,831 --> 01:29:51,176
court in Las Vegas yesterday.

2043
01:29:51,176 --> 01:29:54,805
Smirnoff is charged with lying
to the FBI, claiming the Bidens

2044
01:29:54,805 --> 01:29:56,646
accepted millions in bribes from

2045
01:29:56,658 --> 01:29:58,684
Burisma,
a Ukrainian energy firm.

2046
01:29:58,684 --> 01:29:59,685
And the tape?

2047
01:29:59,685 --> 01:30:04,189
Nobody has seen it.
So far. Does it exist? Hmm...

2048
01:30:04,565 --> 01:30:05,941
Well, if you find it,
let me know.

2049
01:30:05,941 --> 01:30:08,986
Until then, only Putin
knows for sure.

2050
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,520
(brooding music)

2051
01:30:20,379 --> 01:30:22,932
I kind of believe in
the pee pee tape.

2052
01:30:24,602 --> 01:30:26,478
I don't know if the
tape's real or not.

2053
01:30:26,503 --> 01:30:28,839
I kind of hope it is, just
'cause that would be awesome.

2054
01:30:28,839 --> 01:30:31,050
But, till I see it,

2055
01:30:31,050 --> 01:30:32,594
no picture, no proof.

2056
01:30:33,184 --> 01:30:35,108
Is it really that far-fetched?

2057
01:30:35,721 --> 01:30:39,078
Anything is possible when it
comes to the orange hobgoblin.