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Be care...
Hey, be careful with that thing.
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Take one.
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Thank you.
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Well, I don't really know the meaning
of the word "vulnerability."
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I just don't.
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Uh, but there was... I can't tell you
what was right about John Candy
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or what was wrong.
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I have no... I-I'm not really sure
what was going on there.
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{\an8}But he was my friend,
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{\an8}and when you see him,
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{\an8}when you see his face... I mean,
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{\an8}I don't want to cry,
but wh-when I see his face,
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{\an8}I really miss him, you know,
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{\an8}'cause we were together, really together,
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{\an8}and then we both sort of spun off
and went our... went...
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You know, we both carved out a little
space up there in the world for ourselves,
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and, and then he was taken,
you know, he was gone.
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Quickly, you know?
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And he was smart and he was...
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you know, he loved music
and he was good to people.
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You can always judge someone by how
they treat a waiter or waitress, you know.
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He always was, like... he always was kind
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to people that were working,
that were working, you know,
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'cause we were starving once.
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You know, you... uh...
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I wish I had some more bad things
to say about him.
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B-But that's the problem
when you talk about John.
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People don't really have a lot
of negative things to say about him,
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and I hope that what you're producing here
turns up some people
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that have got some dirt on him, because...
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I did do a play once,
I did a stage reading, um...
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See, this is a bad thing to say about him.
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Good, I'm glad I thought of something.
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{\an8}Hi, Daddy.
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Hi, Jennifer, how you doing?
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- Hi.
- Can you see me in here?
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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♪ Oh, when will I, when will I ♪
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{\an8}♪ ever know I'll be leaving my story? ♪
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{\an8}♪ You told me so ♪
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♪ Brave and alone, a bird will fly ♪
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♪ and will fly once again ♪
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♪ and will never die ♪
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♪ So alone, not afraid ♪
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♪ Hear the bird sing ♪
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♪ with the promise of glory ♪
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♪ your stories bring ♪
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I'm gonna give it out today
in the manner
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in which he would have wanted it.
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You have been accorded a great honor.
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You stand up and walk
to the front of the room
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and, without grief or weeping,
deliver loudly,
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clearly, short and straight
to the salient points,
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the best tribute and oratory
possible from the heart
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of an allied professional,
a creative brother, and a fellow Canadian
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who loved this boy from the Donlands
like we had the same blood.
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We salute first a patriot
who always professed and promoted
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the positive interests of the North
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but who also welcomed
into his fold Americans
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and was enfolded, in turn, by them.
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Like all on our planet, they eventually
came to see his indistillable value.
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This is no meager life
we reflect on today.
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This is as full a life
as any human can live.
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Joy, emotional abundance of spirit,
infectious rage,
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a tinge of Lugosi-like madness with his
bottom reverse-vampire teeth and all.
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A titan of a gentle, golden man.
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Magnificent of visage, eyes, and frame.
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Let none be deceived by what the less
enlightened would label as "girth,"
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for there are many witnesses
to the clamping power of his mitts
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and the steel in his forearms,
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the quickness and lightness
of foot and leg.
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Challenge him,
and you would be hurled away like a toy.
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There's a word in our language
we don't hear much anymore,
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but it applies to Candy.
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The word is "grand."
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He was a grand man.
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John Franklin Candy,
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devoted son, brother,
altar boy, student, salesman,
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stage, radio, and television writer
and performer,
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world-famous comedy ambassador,
farce and dramatic actor.
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international feature film star, director,
businessman, connoisseur, percussionist,
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charitable benefactor, husband, father,
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and the sweetest, most generous person
ever known to me.
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I loved him from the instant
I laid eyes on him
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in his first impeccable suit...
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...and I will never stop.
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{\an8}News on the March.
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Okay, hold it,
we'll roll it again in a sec.
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Well, that's it.
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That's it. What do you think, boys?
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Pretty damn good documentary,
if I do say so myself.
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Only one thing bothers me.
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What about the man?
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Well, what do we know about him,
his motivations?
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Why did he do the things he did?
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Where's he from? Where was he born?
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Yeah, yeah, where was he born?
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Go to Jupiter, go to Venus,
go to Pluto, I don't care.
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Get the story, that's what we need.
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So that this man sits down and sees it,
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and we tell him more about him
than he knows about himself.
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I like it.
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Mr. Candy, is this your, uh,
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- first birthday production?
- This is... yes.
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It is indeed my first production, yes,
and we're, we're hoping it goes well.
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We're a little nervous...
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and everybody's tense, but, uh, we've
rehearsed as much as we could... we can,
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and, uh, well, we'll see what happens.
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Okay. Christopher.
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Christopher, how's the party?
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Fine, I got to go eat pizza.
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Okay.
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People will often come up
and ask the questions.
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"What character was
your father most like?"
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You know, I'm someone who's grown up
primarily without a father.
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{\an8}And feels a bit like
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{\an8}being a detective
of your own father's life.
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You're kind of going back and looking over
at who he was, who he knew...
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and then also your experiences with him.
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When I zoom in...
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Then you got to adjust this.
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Oh, what an ugly beard.
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This is your close-up here.
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- Can I see?
- See, now you're,
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you're perfect, you're clear.
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And now adjust it. See?
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On the lighter side
of things, he was super fun.
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You know, I think my father was someone
who, um, was a big kid,
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so he knew how to be a kid
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with me.
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Hi, Daddy.
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Everyone wants
to make it to the top.
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Big giant...
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And it's a lot of work.
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{\an8}And sometimes you're so focused
that you have blinders on
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{\an8}and you don't see anything else
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{\an8}or you forget people
or you forget yourself.
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Hi, Jennifer.
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Come to me.
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He knew
that putting in the hard work,
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taking care of your team,
taking care of your family,
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that's what's most important,
and our dad always did.
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He took care of everyone.
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He touched so many aspects of the world,
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I think that it's left
a lasting impression.
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How old were you
when you got your first laugh
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and decided you liked it?
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I guess at a young age.
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I mean, uh, much like most kids,
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you know, we were always
just fooling around, playing.
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I loved play... I played a lot.
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Had a great imagination as a kid.
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You're always, uh, playing pretend games
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and putting little stage shows on
in garages or in someone's basement.
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So, my dad was born
on Halloween in Newmarket in Canada.
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Just north of Toronto.
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They were only there
for about a year or so.
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{\an8}They moved into the city to East York
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{\an8}with his brother Jim and his mom Van.
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My grandfather's name was Sidney.
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{\an8}Sid was in the Canadian Army.
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{\an8}He was a sergeant and a World War II vet.
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{\an8}He passed away from a major heart attack
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{\an8}in, uh, 1955 on John's fifth birthday.
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My grandfather
passed away at 35.
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And you're like,
"Wait, 35, that's way too young."
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They never talked about it.
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My father was five.
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You know, he was a little kid.
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There's something
that can happen to a child
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who goes through loss
at that early of an age.
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They don't know what to do
with that trauma.
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So, if my father at five loses his father
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and no one wants to deal with it--
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they go ahead and have his birthday...
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...he doesn't really know what to do
and he grows up looking for help.
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John took over being the dad.
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{\an8}He was the child that made everyone happy.
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And he was the adult that did that.
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He continued that.
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He very rarely talked about it.
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There was just this connection
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with his birth and his dad's death
that is too confusing.
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Van carried him, John did, Jim did.
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His memory was there forever.
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They moved into my grandparents'
home, into the basement down there.
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The bunker, as they called it.
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They moved into that house,
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which was actually
my great-grandmother's house,
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and that was a survival place for them.
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They needed a place to live.
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My grandmother, she lived with her sister.
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Aunt Fran.
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My dad and his brother
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lived in the downstairs area.
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Everyone else lived upstairs.
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They were packed.
It was kind of sardines in there.
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The house was always open,
and I think that is part of John's makeup,
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how receptive he was to people.
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He loved his family,
they laughed a lot.
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They always laughed.
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People could walk in there
any time of the day and night,
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and there'd be food.
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She'd be making and making
and telling John and I, "Eat, eat, eat,"
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and then she'd turn around and go,
"You guys are getting fat."
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You know?
It's like, "Yeah, okay, thanks, Granny."
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We've talked to some people who knew you
in your early childhood
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and your teen years.
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And they remember you
as being down-to-earth
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and an absolutely reliable friend.
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Have you changed?
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Has stardom changed any of that?
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Well, I hope not, I hope not.
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I-I'm pretty loyal.
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I'm like a dog, I guess, in a way.
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You really got to beat me bad
to get me away.
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{\an8}The John Candy
in your world is
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{\an8}different than the John Candy in my world.
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{\an8}In the very beginning,
he was, like, very shy and introverted.
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{\an8}It's hard to believe.
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He wasn't, like, walking into a room
and taking it over.
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He had a drum set set up in his basement.
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He had this record collection
that was monstrous
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and was all sorted in alphabetical order.
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John and Jim bought
comedy albums.
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But the ones that we listened to was
a group called the Firesign Theatre,
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and they had a radio show in the mid-'60s.
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{\an8}And they did sketch comedy
and they were fantastic.
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And we'd listen to that over and over.
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Hey, you guys holding?
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Oh, gosh no.
The means of production
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- are held by all the people.
- That's right!
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No, man, you know
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got any uppers?
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{\an8}He was
a big fan of movies,
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{\an8}and there was a movie theater
right on Donlands there.
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He would just nonstop talk about the
movie that he'd seen or the characters.
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They never make these cars big enough,
do they?
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He loved it.
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Laurel and Hardy and It's a Mad, Mad,
Mad, Mad World, film noir.
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Just a big fan of cinema.
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He always talked
about Humphrey Bogart.
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Here's looking at you, kid.
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He knew that he wanted to be that guy.
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He wanted to be Jackie Gleason.
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The one thing
I really enjoyed doing
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was being part of the drama department.
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I had no idea whether it was gonna lead
anywhere or do anything.
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I mean, I was lost,
but, uh, this was mid-'60s.
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What do you do?
It was that whole turbulent time anyway.
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I tried a number of different things,
but I kept going back
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to performing.
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I always thought that his world
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and the way he lived his life
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was very much like the movies.
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He was a dreamer.
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At what point did
the funny part of John Candy
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develop?
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In high school.
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It was probably...
It was more out of, I think,
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defensive posture, really.
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I tried, but I don't think
I was a very good student.
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I think I was,
I was probably still in shock,
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I think, from my, uh...
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from all the tragedies, I think,
that we had dealt with.
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Going to school, I think,
might have been an escape for him.
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It was a Catholic high school.
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I grew up as a rebellious Catholic.
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He grew up as "I'm Catholic."
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Yeah, no, the teachers were,
like, all priests.
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There were no women.
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It was almost army-like.
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It was pretty intimidating at first,
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but in his second year
something happened over the summer.
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He, uh, came out a little bit.
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♪ Everybody leavin'...
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For a big guy, he had unlimited energy.
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He was a goer, he wanted to go,
he wanted to do stuff.
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"Let's try this, let's do this."
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His popularity was growing.
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Growing up as a male
in Toronto, sports was your thing.
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You were either going to hockey
or you're going into football.
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He actually loved football
more than hockey.
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I think, as a kid, he probably hoped
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that one day he might be able to do that.
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In high school
he played till he...
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blew up his knee.
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He had to have his kneecap
removed and never replaced again, just...
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no kneecap on his left leg.
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♪ Actin' the fool...
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That was soul-crushing, and I think he
needed to figure out what he wanted to do.
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These student demonstrations
were the same as last year,
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except that now the signs read
"Nixon" instead of "Johnson."
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He was about, uh, 17, 18.
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The Vietnam War was at its peak.
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He really wanted to enlist
in the American Army.
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I don't know what the age was
to enlist at that particular time,
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but the Canadian government said,
"No way, you guys can't do that,"
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but a lot of Canadian guys did,
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and he was hot to do that.
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We all said, "You're nuts,"
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but, I mean, he just felt
like he wanted to be part of it
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and protect the world or something,
I don't know.
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I was shocked myself.
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I guess he wanted a, uh,
he wanted a purpose.
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He did actually make a few visits
down to Buffalo to see if he was eligible,
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but as it turns out, I think it was
because of his knee injury
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that they wouldn't accept him.
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I think my father's everyman
qualities came from his upbringing.
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He understood the plight
of the working person.
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John had a variety of jobs,
even through his teenage years.
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♪ Make each moment a special moment ♪
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♪ Got a lot of Christmas shopping to do...
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So, everyone worked at Eaton's.
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The Eaton Centre is
the big department store in Canada.
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Fran worked there,
she was in the toy department.
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And they got John a job there
in sporting goods.
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My dad was there
with Tom and Rita Davidson.
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{\an8}I was working at Eaton's
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{\an8}department store, and I just got hired
into the sporting goods department,
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{\an8}and we connected right away.
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My mom also worked there.
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Tom was good friends with my dad.
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Rita was good friends with my mom.
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We went on a coffee break together.
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{\an8}I remember us sauntering by
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{\an8}and her trying to get a look--
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{\an8}casually look-- at John.
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They set my mom and dad up
on a blind date.
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When you took your wife
on the first date, where did you go?
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I think we went to a movie.
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Was our first date.
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Yeah, we didn't get along
on our first date.
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It was a blind date, too.
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And I don't think we got along that well.
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But I wasn't going to show her.
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I was going to show her, you know,
"How dare you not like me?"
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He was very kind, very sweet.
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He had a vulnerability about him.
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He was funny and he had a beautiful voice.
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He had a,
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just a way about him, you know, sweet man.
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He was focused on his direction in life
and he said, "If I'm going
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to have a girlfriend,
I need to get a real job."
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Yeah, he asked me whether
he should be an actor or stay in business,
348
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and I certainly told him
he should stay in business.
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He had a,
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a car given to him to-to use as a perk
and he had a regular paycheck.
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And so why would you ever leave that
for a, an acting job?
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He got a suit on and he said to me,
"Well, what do you think?"
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And I said, "Well, that's okay if you want
to, you know, that's all right."
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But I panicked for him because...
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...John was creative, he was a force.
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He really liked acting
and he was really good at it.
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He did do stand-up and he did improv.
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Improv... he just was born to that.
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He could spontaneously ignite.
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He didn't seem to have
a-a fear of failure.
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He didn't seem to know his limitations,
if he had any, but he,
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he had to try it.
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It was a blessing when Catherine McCartney
said, "Hey, you'd be a good actor."
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That was from Eaton's
going across the street to a restaurant.
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The agent saw him
and just looked at his face and said,
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"I think you'd be good in the industry."
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{\an8}That very first time we spoke, he said,
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{\an8}"Well, I really want to be
a football player, but I also want
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{\an8}to act."
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And that was how it happened.
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♪ Whether it's cloudy
or whether it's clear ♪
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♪ Whether it's thunder
or wind that you hear ♪
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Children's theater,
he met Dan Aykroyd and Valri Bromfield.
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And I'm going,
"You're doing children's theater?
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Okay."
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I'd just come from Ottawa
with Valri Bromfield,
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my old partner there in comedy.
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{\an8}She had done a children's
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{\an8}theater play, I think, with YPT or one of
these groups, and where they'd, you know,
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{\an8}go up to Bala Bay
and, uh, you know, tour around
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{\an8}and, you know,
dress as squirrels and stuff.
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And she said she'd met a guy there
who was... she said, "He's just like you,"
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she said, you know,
"Y-You're the same, you guys," you know.
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I see this brown Pontiac Laurentian
four-door pull up
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and this magnificent man step out.
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♪ Tweedlee dee...
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He matched the car completely.
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{\an8}He was so presentable
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00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,196
{\an8}and gentlemanly and so Canadian.
390
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,031
I said, "No, I'm sorry, you can't park."
He said, "Why not?"
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"Well, because I'll give you a ticket,"
I said.
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And, you know,
"No, I, no, I can park anywhere."
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I said, "Are you a doctor?"
394
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He says, "Sometimes."
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And then we start off like that,
so immediately
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we get going.
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♪ Tweedlee, tweedlee...
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This is a lovable guy.
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{\an8}This is a guy who, the minute
you see his face, you're going to smile.
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00:21:40,675 --> 00:21:45,013
We met at Godspell,
and instantly loved the guy.
401
00:21:45,096 --> 00:21:47,306
Godspell preceded Second City.
402
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{\an8}And it was Gilda Radner
and Andrea Martin and Victor Garber
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{\an8}and Paul Shaffer, Eugene Levy.
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00:21:52,395 --> 00:21:55,523
{\an8}And John always maintained
he hated Godspell because
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00:21:55,606 --> 00:21:57,734
{\an8}he just got tired of us
always talking about it.
406
00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:00,945
Godspell was a big show.
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00:22:01,029 --> 00:22:06,242
In Toronto, 1972, it was just fun.
408
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:09,203
{\an8}We had fun working
because we were working.
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00:22:10,288 --> 00:22:12,498
In 1972, Chicago's renowned
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Second City comedy theater arrived
in Toronto to conduct auditions.
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Toronto had
enough of a cultural scene,
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so we had lots of opportunities to grow.
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{\an8}We could
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{\an8}cultivate our talents because it was
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{\an8}a safe place in which to do it.
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And we had friends amongst us,
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00:22:31,809 --> 00:22:36,064
like-minded people
that we didn't compete with,
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and everybody's personality
and skill set grew.
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00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:44,238
And that's what it gave John,
huge opportunities.
420
00:22:45,323 --> 00:22:48,367
Danny got into Second City.
421
00:22:48,451 --> 00:22:52,038
Dan Aykroyd and Valri Bromfield
got John to come with him
422
00:22:52,121 --> 00:22:55,958
because John was a perfect candidate
for Second City.
423
00:22:56,042 --> 00:22:57,418
Oh, they did trick me into it.
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00:22:57,502 --> 00:22:59,253
They were already in Second City.
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00:22:59,337 --> 00:23:01,297
They said, "You should join this,
you should join this, should get involved,
426
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,174
they'll love you,
you're funny, you'll do it."
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00:23:03,257 --> 00:23:06,677
I said, "No, no, no, I can fool around
with you guys, but I can't do that stuff."
428
00:23:06,761 --> 00:23:08,387
They said,
"Well, we've got to be down there anyway.
429
00:23:08,471 --> 00:23:09,680
Meet us down there for lunch."
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00:23:09,764 --> 00:23:11,140
I went down there, I was waiting around,
431
00:23:11,224 --> 00:23:14,268
I was looking at everybody kind of in awe,
seeing everybody from Godspell.
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00:23:14,852 --> 00:23:18,147
And I hear John Candy being paged.
433
00:23:19,774 --> 00:23:21,192
And Valri's,
"Come on, come on, come on, you're going,
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00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:22,485
come on, we put your name down."
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00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:25,738
I was like, "Oh, I'll kill you,
I'll kill you for doing this to me."
436
00:23:26,322 --> 00:23:28,241
{\an8}When John was auditioning,
437
00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:33,037
{\an8}the guy he was with did not stop talking.
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00:23:33,121 --> 00:23:35,832
John just listened.
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00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:40,670
Heard every word he said, nodded, agreed.
440
00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:43,589
And John got the job because of that.
441
00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:48,678
{\an8}One thing
I did notice about John,
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00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:51,389
{\an8}his confidence level was shaky
443
00:23:51,472 --> 00:23:54,517
{\an8}and he would literally disappear,
you know, onstage.
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00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,522
He'd stick to the back wall, you know,
when there was an improvisation going on.
445
00:24:00,606 --> 00:24:04,652
He's with a lot of very talented,
educated comedians.
446
00:24:05,403 --> 00:24:10,658
He kept always questioning
his not feeling that he was
447
00:24:10,741 --> 00:24:14,579
capable to be as funny
and as talented as they were.
448
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,542
We started at the same time,
and we were the worst.
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00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:21,210
We jumped into a show,
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00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:23,588
and they gave us stuff to do,
but then you'd have to...
451
00:24:23,671 --> 00:24:26,924
The second part of the show was
you had to improvise, and no one...
452
00:24:27,008 --> 00:24:29,760
wanted to work with us
'cause we didn't know what we were doing,
453
00:24:29,844 --> 00:24:31,721
so we'd only work with each other.
454
00:24:32,889 --> 00:24:35,683
But we were confident,
we had a lot of confidence.
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00:24:35,766 --> 00:24:38,603
I don't think people today realize
how bad you have to be
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00:24:38,686 --> 00:24:40,730
in order to be a perfectionist.
457
00:24:40,813 --> 00:24:43,733
You have to be bad and know you're bad
458
00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:47,945
'cause there's nothing like being
really bad to make you want to be better.
459
00:24:49,238 --> 00:24:51,991
The evolution of John
was interesting to watch onstage,
460
00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:54,994
just sort of how eventually, you know,
his confidence started to build.
461
00:24:56,078 --> 00:24:59,207
{\an8}He is
so talented and so strong, but...
462
00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:02,585
{\an8}not in a way
that would intimidate you.
463
00:25:03,377 --> 00:25:06,631
Even though John did
distinctly different characters,
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00:25:06,714 --> 00:25:08,382
John was always there.
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00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:11,719
It was so vibrant and so spectacular
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00:25:11,802 --> 00:25:14,263
to see his work and to see
the characters evolve.
467
00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:17,850
It was just an ease
that you felt,
468
00:25:17,934 --> 00:25:21,604
and then everything he said was
kind of brilliant or sincere.
469
00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:23,940
See, he wasn't always going for the joke.
470
00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:26,776
That wasn't a successful
Second City member.
471
00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:29,403
Second City started
in Chicago in 1959.
472
00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:30,988
{\an8}Uh, the University of Chicago didn't have
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{\an8}a theater department,
and they created their own.
474
00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:39,163
{\an8}Uh, they being Elaine May, Mike Nichols,
Severn Darden, Del Close, Bernie Sahlins.
475
00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:41,040
{\an8}- Harry Truman.
- Harry Truman was part of that.
476
00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:42,458
Uh, what was your...?
477
00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:44,752
In fact, some said that you were
the next Harry Truman for a while.
478
00:25:44,835 --> 00:25:48,547
Yes, they did for a long time,
and, uh, it's been a curse on my back.
479
00:25:48,631 --> 00:25:50,174
Yeah, yeah.
480
00:25:50,758 --> 00:25:52,969
Second City really did it for me,
you know.
481
00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,805
Uh, I really grew up
when I went there in a lot of ways.
482
00:25:55,888 --> 00:26:00,601
I, uh, I was learning my craft,
which I never understood at that point.
483
00:26:00,685 --> 00:26:03,020
I'm just now understanding
what I was learning then.
484
00:26:03,104 --> 00:26:06,607
He was funny, he was adept
485
00:26:06,691 --> 00:26:10,152
at improvising, and he was just
486
00:26:10,236 --> 00:26:11,612
a good guy.
487
00:26:13,364 --> 00:26:17,785
Not only is he taking care
of the other person as the character,
488
00:26:17,868 --> 00:26:21,998
but he's always taking care
of the person as the person.
489
00:26:22,498 --> 00:26:24,792
You know, you reminded me
of his nickname Johnny Toronto.
490
00:26:26,669 --> 00:26:28,087
Johnny Toronto.
491
00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:31,048
It came from John's ego.
492
00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:34,802
"One day I'm gonna own this town."
493
00:26:34,885 --> 00:26:37,013
"You want something done,
I can get it done.
494
00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:40,182
You know, listen to me,
I've got the answers to everything."
495
00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,643
How that came about,
I don't know, I don't...
496
00:26:42,727 --> 00:26:44,645
People started calling him Johnny Toronto.
497
00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:47,773
Do you know how many people wanted to be
498
00:26:47,857 --> 00:26:49,358
Johnny Toronto?
499
00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:50,901
A lot of them.
500
00:26:50,985 --> 00:26:53,112
We all, you know, we would do it
501
00:26:53,195 --> 00:26:54,905
over the line with alcohol sometimes,
502
00:26:54,989 --> 00:26:58,326
and, uh, he was very funny
because he would get physical.
503
00:26:58,409 --> 00:26:59,410
"Dan, Dan!"
504
00:26:59,493 --> 00:27:01,829
He'd go and he'd just grab you and...
"Oh!"
505
00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:03,706
He would, you know, embrace and, you know,
506
00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:07,376
and he could toss you
around like a doll, I swear.
507
00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:12,923
He could grab your bicep and pinch it and
press your flesh all the way to the bone.
508
00:27:14,008 --> 00:27:15,593
It was kind of assumed
509
00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:17,219
that John was gonna be the star
510
00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:20,222
'cause he looked like a star,
'cause he acted like a star,
511
00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:23,059
'cause he drove around in limos
when he had no money,
512
00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:26,437
going, "This is who I am.
Everybody's got to catch up."
513
00:27:27,021 --> 00:27:29,231
I ended up a lot
in John's apartment,
514
00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:30,608
and he had a Barcalounger
515
00:27:30,691 --> 00:27:34,111
and Rothmans, which was
an elegant cigarette to our mind.
516
00:27:34,195 --> 00:27:37,490
There was just an ad for a place
called Lincoln Carpeting.
517
00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:38,574
Any three rooms,
518
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:39,950
$199.
519
00:27:40,034 --> 00:27:43,079
John engaged Lincoln Carpeting
to come to his house.
520
00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:45,706
{\an8}It turned out that once they get
in your house, they sell you
521
00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:48,084
{\an8}more than the $199,
522
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:51,670
{\an8}and his was $1,200, which he didn't have.
523
00:27:52,254 --> 00:27:55,674
And it was lime-green carpeting,
had to be a closeout.
524
00:27:55,758 --> 00:27:59,470
But to go with it,
he had some magnificent golden drapes.
525
00:27:59,553 --> 00:28:03,140
And, and as he settled
back into his Barca
526
00:28:03,224 --> 00:28:04,475
with that Rothmans and said...
527
00:28:04,558 --> 00:28:08,896
"Yeah, wow,
look at all I have achieved here."
528
00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:13,901
Isn't it amazing, every time
there's a dinner, John picks up the tab?
529
00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:17,279
And yet he's making
the same money we have.
530
00:28:17,363 --> 00:28:18,489
But there was a kind of a...
531
00:28:18,572 --> 00:28:21,200
"I'll pay for it" quality to John.
532
00:28:22,076 --> 00:28:24,328
And then, before you know it,
533
00:28:24,412 --> 00:28:25,871
we were doing SCTV together.
534
00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:31,001
{\an8}There were six people
535
00:28:31,085 --> 00:28:33,045
{\an8}who loved to watch television,
536
00:28:33,129 --> 00:28:35,506
{\an8}but they didn't like what they saw,
537
00:28:35,589 --> 00:28:39,427
{\an8}so they decided to do something about it.
538
00:28:40,511 --> 00:28:41,762
It was the fall.
539
00:28:41,846 --> 00:28:45,141
I was on a tour
with the Great Lakes Shakespeare Festival.
540
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:46,559
{\an8}The local television station,
541
00:28:46,642 --> 00:28:48,102
{\an8}for some reason, was running
542
00:28:48,185 --> 00:28:50,229
{\an8}these kind of, like, syndicated shows,
543
00:28:50,312 --> 00:28:52,523
{\an8}like between 5:00 and 7:00.
544
00:28:53,107 --> 00:28:54,608
And I came up on this thing.
545
00:28:54,692 --> 00:28:57,528
Uh, it-it was, it was sort of the...
546
00:28:57,611 --> 00:28:59,572
It was like the Leave It to Beaver show.
547
00:28:59,655 --> 00:29:02,575
{\an8}It's Leave It to Beaver:
The 25th Anniversary Party.
548
00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:03,993
{\an8}And what I had lucked into
549
00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:06,370
{\an8}was an episode of SCTV,
550
00:29:06,454 --> 00:29:09,039
{\an8}and it was John Candy as the Beaver,
551
00:29:09,123 --> 00:29:10,958
{\an8}Flaherty as Ward Cleaver,
552
00:29:11,041 --> 00:29:13,961
{\an8}and Catherine O'Hara as June Cleaver,
553
00:29:14,044 --> 00:29:17,590
{\an8}and Eugene Levy was his-his brother Wally.
554
00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:19,842
And I did not know what it was,
555
00:29:19,925 --> 00:29:22,344
but it was killing me.
556
00:29:22,428 --> 00:29:23,721
- Hey, squirt.
- Hi, Eddie.
557
00:29:23,804 --> 00:29:26,515
I hear your old lady's having
an affair with Fred Rutherford.
558
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,100
Oh, hello, Mrs. Cleaver.
559
00:29:28,184 --> 00:29:29,810
I was just telling Wallace and Theodore
560
00:29:29,894 --> 00:29:32,438
that you're looking younger and younger
as years go by.
561
00:29:32,521 --> 00:29:33,939
Oh, thank you, Eddie.
562
00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:35,816
Oh, I brought this over for Mr. Cleaver.
563
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,444
Uh, he had a pretty bad case
of the shakes last time I saw him.
564
00:29:38,527 --> 00:29:39,528
I hope he's feeling better.
565
00:29:39,612 --> 00:29:40,988
Oh, I'm sure he is, Eddie.
566
00:29:41,071 --> 00:29:42,114
Thank you for asking.
567
00:29:42,198 --> 00:29:43,491
Come on and get your lunch, Beaver.
568
00:29:43,574 --> 00:29:44,575
Okay, Mom.
569
00:29:44,658 --> 00:29:47,578
It was kind of like the promise
of that very first time that I saw him.
570
00:29:47,661 --> 00:29:50,998
This subtle, big, grown-up guy
dressed up as Jerry Mathers,
571
00:29:51,081 --> 00:29:52,541
saying, "I don't know, gee, Wally."
572
00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:54,668
That Eddie Haskell,
he really makes me mad.
573
00:29:54,752 --> 00:29:55,836
Why don't you kill him?
574
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,588
Nah, I could go to jail.
575
00:29:57,671 --> 00:29:58,881
Besides, it's against the law.
576
00:29:58,964 --> 00:30:01,634
But, Beaver, no one would have
to know that you did it.
577
00:30:01,717 --> 00:30:04,053
I don't know, Whitey,
I don't even have a gun.
578
00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:05,930
Come on, Beaver.
579
00:30:06,013 --> 00:30:08,766
For students of comedy,
and by that I mean...
580
00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:10,434
What are you, chicken?
581
00:30:10,518 --> 00:30:13,354
...this is like when comedians see
something that's funny,
582
00:30:13,437 --> 00:30:16,649
they don't laugh,
they go, "Ah, that's funny."
583
00:30:16,732 --> 00:30:18,400
♪ Let's do it ♪
584
00:30:18,484 --> 00:30:20,611
Hi, I'm Gil Fisher, the Fishin' Musician.
585
00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:22,905
I guess my secret to acting, uh, would be:
586
00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:24,448
I pretend real hard.
587
00:30:24,532 --> 00:30:27,660
{\an8}At that moment in time,
we happened to be the cast
588
00:30:27,743 --> 00:30:31,997
{\an8}in Second City Toronto
when they decided to do a television show,
589
00:30:32,081 --> 00:30:35,543
{\an8}and they brought in Harold
as our head writer.
590
00:30:35,626 --> 00:30:37,419
{\an8}Our show was the poor cousin
591
00:30:37,503 --> 00:30:38,879
{\an8}-of SNL.
- It's Saturday Night!
592
00:30:38,963 --> 00:30:41,423
Well, we had no sponsors,
no one to tell us what to do.
593
00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:44,301
It was like being turned loose
in a TV studio,
594
00:30:44,385 --> 00:30:48,639
and, uh, w-we-we never knew
when the show would run, so we couldn't do
595
00:30:48,722 --> 00:30:50,057
topical material.
596
00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:53,936
{\an8}So we were forced into the really
dark parts of our imaginations.
597
00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:58,065
John's performance style
was extroverted,
598
00:30:58,148 --> 00:31:01,026
and he had a great need to connect.
599
00:31:01,110 --> 00:31:03,153
Hello, I'm Mr. Mambo...
600
00:31:03,237 --> 00:31:04,822
{\an8}If you think of Monty Python,
you think of Second City,
601
00:31:04,905 --> 00:31:06,198
{\an8}you think of Saturday Night Live,
602
00:31:06,282 --> 00:31:09,368
{\an8}he was one of the top performers
out of all of them.
603
00:31:09,451 --> 00:31:13,455
And John,
who could not hide his frame
604
00:31:13,539 --> 00:31:18,586
when he would be doing Julia Child
or he would be doing Pavarotti,
605
00:31:18,669 --> 00:31:22,590
the only time you saw a big man doing
stuff like that was, like, Jackie Gleason
606
00:31:22,673 --> 00:31:23,674
or Lou Costello.
607
00:31:23,757 --> 00:31:27,970
It had to be like, literally,
a guy making jokes about his size,
608
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:30,055
and he simply didn't.
609
00:31:30,139 --> 00:31:31,181
Bruno!
610
00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:35,603
{\an8}He and Eugene doing
Doctor Tongue and Bruno,
611
00:31:35,686 --> 00:31:36,770
{\an8}oh, it's the best.
612
00:31:36,854 --> 00:31:40,566
They were scary movies
that ended up not being that scary,
613
00:31:40,649 --> 00:31:42,735
and they were all kind of 3D-based.
614
00:31:42,818 --> 00:31:45,613
But the idea of creating
615
00:31:45,696 --> 00:31:47,698
a very cheap 3D effect...
616
00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:54,371
...was a really funny idea.
617
00:31:58,334 --> 00:32:01,587
That's right, why wait for
hours for those martinis to take effect
618
00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:04,757
when speed-drinking can make you
the instant life of the party?
619
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,550
Let's mambo.
620
00:32:06,634 --> 00:32:08,719
I'm at that
impressionable age.
621
00:32:08,802 --> 00:32:12,139
{\an8}I'm a comedy freak,
and here comes John Candy,
622
00:32:12,222 --> 00:32:15,309
{\an8}and I'm like, "Who is that guy?"
623
00:32:15,392 --> 00:32:17,561
You calling me a drunk?
I got you this job.
624
00:32:17,645 --> 00:32:21,273
One of the things
that Johnny would do that I would love is
625
00:32:21,357 --> 00:32:23,400
immediate turns
that were almost cartoonish.
626
00:32:23,484 --> 00:32:26,195
- Yeah, you know they're, um...
- Lesbians?
627
00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:29,365
And I mean that in the good sense, I-I do.
628
00:32:30,866 --> 00:32:32,034
No letters.
629
00:32:33,369 --> 00:32:37,915
He could go from absolute
sort of childish, avuncular...
630
00:32:40,584 --> 00:32:41,752
"What are you talking about?"
631
00:32:41,835 --> 00:32:44,338
And it's... it's insane.
632
00:32:44,421 --> 00:32:47,716
{\an8}♪ Yellow, yellowbelly...
633
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,595
{\an8}He did a character in a sketch
called "Yellowbelly."
634
00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:55,015
It's a promo for a television show
about a cowardly
635
00:32:55,099 --> 00:32:57,685
soldier in the Old West.
636
00:32:57,768 --> 00:33:00,229
It's kind of like the Oppenheimer blast
for me.
637
00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:04,066
Ostracized by the North
and South during the Civil War
638
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:06,694
for his double-dealing treachery,
639
00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:09,655
he's the biggest coward in the West.
640
00:33:09,738 --> 00:33:11,699
He's Yellowbelly.
641
00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:15,119
And he's there and he's shaking
and he's scared and he's...
642
00:33:15,202 --> 00:33:17,538
And then a woman and her son walk by,
643
00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:19,707
and I think the boy says,
"Is that Yellowbelly?"
644
00:33:19,790 --> 00:33:21,500
And she goes, "Shh, quiet."
645
00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:23,752
Hey, Mommy, that's Yellowbelly.
646
00:33:27,715 --> 00:33:29,508
And Yellowbelly turns
and shoots them...
647
00:33:30,843 --> 00:33:32,594
...in the back.
648
00:33:32,678 --> 00:33:36,932
And you have to remember,
this is, I don't know, 1980?
649
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:38,726
It was just unheard of.
650
00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:41,520
You sh-shot my child!
651
00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:43,564
You yellowbelly!
652
00:33:43,647 --> 00:33:46,233
Help, help, the yellowbe...
653
00:33:49,153 --> 00:33:50,446
♪ Yellow...
654
00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:53,532
{\an8}That wiped my mind clean,
that you could do a sketch
655
00:33:53,615 --> 00:33:56,452
{\an8}where someone shoots a mother and a child
656
00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:59,621
{\an8}in the back while a fun song plays.
657
00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:02,416
Hello, I'm Yosh Shmenge.
658
00:34:02,499 --> 00:34:04,501
And I'm Stan Shmenge.
659
00:34:04,585 --> 00:34:08,172
And we are the Happy Wanderers.
660
00:34:08,255 --> 00:34:12,092
{\an8}On the Shmenges,
the minute his costume went on,
661
00:34:12,176 --> 00:34:13,427
{\an8}that's who he was.
662
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:16,263
You got to be a Shmenge
to make an offer like that.
663
00:34:16,346 --> 00:34:17,806
Just...
664
00:34:21,643 --> 00:34:24,855
When you get
to that comfort level and that trust level
665
00:34:24,938 --> 00:34:29,693
knowing each other and hanging around
each other, chemistry is crazy good.
666
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:37,159
But in that first season,
John got really upset.
667
00:34:37,242 --> 00:34:38,744
You know, it was about
668
00:34:38,827 --> 00:34:41,205
who was contributing to the writing
and who wasn't.
669
00:34:41,288 --> 00:34:47,294
We were being paid as actors and writers,
but John was only paid as an actor.
670
00:34:47,377 --> 00:34:49,087
He wasn't too happy about it.
671
00:34:49,171 --> 00:34:51,924
So John actually, I guess, saw a check
672
00:34:52,007 --> 00:34:55,302
and then said, "Well, wait a second,
why am I getting paid less?"
673
00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:57,596
That was where there was
a real schism started.
674
00:34:58,180 --> 00:35:01,225
He would take those grudges
and never dispense with them, right?
675
00:35:01,308 --> 00:35:02,768
They were still there.
676
00:35:02,851 --> 00:35:06,104
And John could carry those hurts
for a long time.
677
00:35:06,188 --> 00:35:09,691
You know, John must have had
a thousand of them during his career.
678
00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:15,280
Jim worked, I believe,
on Second City.
679
00:35:15,364 --> 00:35:16,657
John got him a job.
680
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,911
He was part of the crew,
John's brother, and so he's pulling cable.
681
00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:23,831
Jim had a heart attack
in his dressing room,
682
00:35:23,914 --> 00:35:28,043
and, uh, that wasn't pleasant for John.
683
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,294
Do you know what I mean?
684
00:35:29,878 --> 00:35:32,548
Jim was not taking care
of himself.
685
00:35:32,631 --> 00:35:35,050
That just really shook my father,
686
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:39,137
terrified him,
because it's happening again.
687
00:35:41,890 --> 00:35:44,017
He was fine, Jim was fine.
688
00:35:44,101 --> 00:35:47,479
But we went in the car to the hospital.
689
00:35:47,563 --> 00:35:49,273
John said, "Stay here."
690
00:35:49,356 --> 00:35:51,608
And he was really angry.
691
00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:58,282
So John comes back,
and at that studio we had this tiki bar.
692
00:35:58,365 --> 00:36:00,284
John is
693
00:36:00,367 --> 00:36:03,036
sitting at the bar,
having a drink, having a cigarette.
694
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,205
He said, "You know,
my goddamn brother, you know,
695
00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:07,583
he's just not taking care
of himself."
696
00:36:07,666 --> 00:36:12,629
That was the inconsistency... of John.
697
00:36:15,257 --> 00:36:19,136
Nobody had bigger expectations
for himself than John,
698
00:36:19,219 --> 00:36:24,808
so when things happened, setbacks,
they were devastating.
699
00:36:26,727 --> 00:36:29,187
So, SCTV started in '76.
700
00:36:29,271 --> 00:36:31,356
About three years later,
it kind of ran out of money.
701
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,566
It was syndicated.
702
00:36:32,649 --> 00:36:33,734
And then it stopped.
703
00:36:33,817 --> 00:36:34,818
Then it started again
704
00:36:34,902 --> 00:36:37,404
a year later in Edmonton, Alberta.
705
00:36:37,487 --> 00:36:39,740
They started with 30-minute shows,
and then,
706
00:36:39,823 --> 00:36:43,619
by '81, it extended to 90 minutes,
and it became
707
00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:45,370
massive.
708
00:36:45,454 --> 00:36:49,291
But John was the key
to turning that thing that tanked
709
00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:52,127
into something
that was successful and funny.
710
00:36:53,962 --> 00:36:56,632
It's a moment in time.
711
00:36:57,132 --> 00:37:01,428
It was like his second family
but became his first family.
712
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,764
You know, became my family.
713
00:37:03,847 --> 00:37:04,973
{\an8}He loved it.
714
00:37:05,057 --> 00:37:07,809
{\an8}It was really hard for him
to let go of it, too,
715
00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:10,270
{\an8}'cause he was so emotionally wrought.
716
00:37:11,271 --> 00:37:12,981
{\an8}But he knew he had to move on.
717
00:37:14,608 --> 00:37:16,526
And movies came up.
718
00:37:17,945 --> 00:37:21,823
John's first big movie
was 1941.
719
00:37:21,907 --> 00:37:23,784
We were still doing SCTV,
720
00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:25,160
and Spielberg wanted him.
721
00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:27,621
We were finishing off writing
a-a season of SCTV,
722
00:37:27,704 --> 00:37:29,790
and we had a big party.
723
00:37:29,873 --> 00:37:31,583
People were coming over to me, going,
"Steven Spielberg is here.
724
00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:33,126
He's here, he wants to see you."
725
00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:34,670
I'm thinking, you know, it was a joke.
726
00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:36,129
I went over there, and there he was.
727
00:37:36,713 --> 00:37:38,423
And he was just surrounded
by a lot of people
728
00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:40,968
and he says,
"John, John... I really like your work."
729
00:37:41,051 --> 00:37:42,052
And I was, "Oh."
730
00:37:42,636 --> 00:37:45,389
But he, uh, said,
"I'd like you to do this picture 1941.
731
00:37:45,472 --> 00:37:47,808
{\an8}I have a role in it for you,
and I think you'd be perfect."
732
00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:49,101
I said, "I really appreciate that.
733
00:37:49,184 --> 00:37:50,477
I know it's a party
and we've all been drinking,
734
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,813
so thank you very much and, uh,
735
00:37:52,896 --> 00:37:55,065
I appreciate that you watched SCTV."
736
00:37:55,148 --> 00:37:56,733
He says, "No, I really want you
for the movie."
737
00:37:56,817 --> 00:37:57,818
"Yeah."
738
00:37:57,901 --> 00:38:00,320
Let's mutilate this food
before they can serve it to anyone else.
739
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,284
Oh, my God.
740
00:38:06,368 --> 00:38:08,537
- Hello, John.
- This is Candid Camera, wait a minute.
741
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:10,622
- How are you?
- I'm fine.
742
00:38:10,706 --> 00:38:12,916
And John said, "I'm gonna get
y'all roles in the movie."
743
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,584
It was like, it was like he felt bad
744
00:38:14,668 --> 00:38:18,338
he was the only one getting called
about a movie in the United States, right?
745
00:38:18,422 --> 00:38:19,673
"It's okay, John."
746
00:38:21,258 --> 00:38:22,884
Did you see the movie 1941?
747
00:38:22,968 --> 00:38:24,052
Yes, I did.
748
00:38:24,136 --> 00:38:26,013
- Did you like it?
- I liked parts of it.
749
00:38:26,096 --> 00:38:27,472
We were dressed as soldiers.
750
00:38:27,556 --> 00:38:30,475
We were little kids, you know,
living out our fantasies.
751
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,644
Do you prefer
working in feature films, John?
752
00:38:32,728 --> 00:38:33,979
I'd like to, uh,
753
00:38:34,062 --> 00:38:36,440
to try to stay in films if it's possible.
754
00:38:36,523 --> 00:38:38,775
If there's anyone out there with a film.
755
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:46,700
Now, when you proposed
to your wife, where were you?
756
00:38:47,451 --> 00:38:49,411
Well, we'd been living in sin
for a number of years,
757
00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:51,079
so it wasn't really the same.
758
00:38:52,622 --> 00:38:56,960
Well, I proposed, I guess,
in Los Angeles when we were doing 1941.
759
00:38:57,044 --> 00:38:59,254
It was so rushed, it was...
We were trying to find a date.
760
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:00,756
We couldn't get a weekend.
761
00:39:02,549 --> 00:39:04,718
It was fun.
It was a silly wedding, but we had fun.
762
00:39:04,801 --> 00:39:06,219
A silly wedding?
763
00:39:06,303 --> 00:39:09,973
Well, the church we got married in
was under construction, and we didn't
764
00:39:10,057 --> 00:39:11,141
think to look.
765
00:39:11,224 --> 00:39:12,434
It was under construction.
766
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,107
Did your parents
get married at McDonald's?
767
00:39:21,443 --> 00:39:24,112
No, they got married
at a soundstage
768
00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:26,490
where a McDonald's Canada
769
00:39:26,573 --> 00:39:29,117
commercial had just filmed,
770
00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:33,455
and the Golden Arches
are prominently displayed.
771
00:39:35,457 --> 00:39:39,878
What Rose always brought
was this calm,
772
00:39:39,961 --> 00:39:43,965
in control, grounding, wise element.
773
00:39:44,049 --> 00:39:48,470
If John was upset about something, by the
end of the day Rose would calm him down.
774
00:40:00,649 --> 00:40:03,819
They had one of the most successful
marriages I've ever known.
775
00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:12,494
The summertime has become the season
776
00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:17,082
for at least one irreverent, gross-out,
anarchistic, slapstick comedy,
777
00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:18,959
and this summer it's Stripes.
778
00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:20,418
My name's Dewey Oxberger.
779
00:40:20,502 --> 00:40:22,087
My friends call me Ox.
780
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:25,298
You might've noticed I've, uh,
got a slight weight problem.
781
00:40:25,382 --> 00:40:27,551
- No. No.
- Yeah, I do, yeah, yeah, I do.
782
00:40:27,634 --> 00:40:33,598
I went to this doctor, and... well, he
told me I, I swallow a lot of aggression,
783
00:40:33,682 --> 00:40:35,016
along with a lot of pizzas.
784
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,768
Pizzas.
785
00:40:38,228 --> 00:40:40,063
I'm basically a shy person.
786
00:40:40,147 --> 00:40:42,315
I'm-I'm a shy guy, and, uh...
787
00:40:42,399 --> 00:40:45,443
{\an8}How they described him in the beginning...
788
00:40:45,527 --> 00:40:49,447
{\an8}because of his face and,
you know, the round face,
789
00:40:49,531 --> 00:40:52,868
{\an8}they described him with weight.
790
00:40:54,035 --> 00:40:57,664
So he knew that it was already
being defined for him.
791
00:40:57,747 --> 00:41:01,334
So I figured, while I'm here,
I'll lose a few pounds.
792
00:41:01,418 --> 00:41:04,379
And you got, what, a six-to-eight-week
training program here, a real tough one?
793
00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:06,548
Which is perfect for me.
794
00:41:06,631 --> 00:41:10,343
I'm gonna walk out of here
a lean, mean fighting machine.
795
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:13,680
Now tell me,
796
00:41:13,763 --> 00:41:18,768
inside John Candy, is there really
a lean, mean fighting machine
797
00:41:18,852 --> 00:41:20,687
- just dying to get out?
- Doesn't it look lean?
798
00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:22,147
It doesn't look like it, no.
799
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:24,107
Um, no, there isn't.
800
00:41:24,191 --> 00:41:27,277
No, I'm, I'm quite happy the way I am.
801
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,239
Even the interviews on John,
they would say things that offended him.
802
00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:34,284
It's called Big City Comedy,
and if you can't remember "big,"
803
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:35,493
take a good look at John...
804
00:41:35,577 --> 00:41:37,579
- Take a look at this city.
- ...and that will refresh that.
805
00:41:37,662 --> 00:41:39,581
- You worked in The Blues Brothers.
- He knew
806
00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:42,500
what he was up against in this industry.
807
00:41:42,584 --> 00:41:44,002
You're very handsome.
808
00:41:44,085 --> 00:41:47,839
It's, uh... But I wondered,
if you did indeed become
809
00:41:47,923 --> 00:41:52,344
kind of a-a leading man, svelte-look guy,
could you...?
810
00:41:52,427 --> 00:41:56,306
Isn't it... is it true that...
don't you think everyone loves a fat man?
811
00:41:56,389 --> 00:41:58,558
Uh, I guess, uh...
812
00:41:58,642 --> 00:42:00,310
- Why?
- I-I-I don't know,
813
00:42:00,393 --> 00:42:01,519
I guess they're-they're harmless.
814
00:42:02,854 --> 00:42:03,897
I'm not sure.
815
00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:07,067
Uh... no, if I lost,
if I lost a lot of weight,
816
00:42:07,150 --> 00:42:09,152
I don't think it would, uh,
affect me that much.
817
00:42:09,236 --> 00:42:11,446
But-but it wouldn't change your-your style
818
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:16,868
or it wouldn't change your kind of, um,
uh, your-your kind of humor?
819
00:42:16,952 --> 00:42:18,203
No.
820
00:42:18,286 --> 00:42:22,082
To say that John... hated that?
821
00:42:22,165 --> 00:42:24,417
Uh... John just wouldn't accept it,
822
00:42:24,501 --> 00:42:27,379
and I think that's a different version
of saying "hated it."
823
00:42:27,462 --> 00:42:30,090
There was no self-loathing in John.
824
00:42:30,173 --> 00:42:34,094
There was just a-another degree
of artistic purity.
825
00:42:34,177 --> 00:42:36,429
You know, you're always treated
like a second-class citizen in a way,
826
00:42:36,513 --> 00:42:37,514
or you get that feeling.
827
00:42:37,597 --> 00:42:40,976
I think it's just, you're so vulnerable
and you're so sensitive to it,
828
00:42:41,059 --> 00:42:44,521
and, uh, I think that ha-has
a lot to do with, uh,
829
00:42:44,604 --> 00:42:46,815
uh, s-some of the way
that I portray characters, you know.
830
00:42:46,898 --> 00:42:49,651
I never really... I look at things
through thin eyes, really.
831
00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:51,695
I never really consider anybody...
832
00:42:51,778 --> 00:42:53,905
what they look like,
their physical self, you know.
833
00:42:53,989 --> 00:42:56,491
It's really who's in the person
is really what counts,
834
00:42:56,574 --> 00:43:01,496
and I think that I learned over the years,
you know, by having a large frame.
835
00:43:01,579 --> 00:43:05,834
You start to... People, people treat you
differently, you know.
836
00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:08,670
And it hurts sometimes, you know,
people get hurt by it, you know.
837
00:43:08,753 --> 00:43:09,754
He was very upset
838
00:43:09,838 --> 00:43:13,174
about Stripes and the-the scene
that, you know, he had in the mud.
839
00:43:13,258 --> 00:43:14,801
Give me a kick, honey.
840
00:43:14,884 --> 00:43:16,261
Ooh, whoa...
841
00:43:16,344 --> 00:43:18,555
I was the emcee
in the wrestling match,
842
00:43:18,638 --> 00:43:20,515
which he did not want to do.
843
00:43:21,808 --> 00:43:24,853
You know, it was like, "John, take off
your shirt and roll around in the mud
844
00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:26,604
with a bunch of strippers."
845
00:43:28,106 --> 00:43:31,109
John wore a long-sleeve T-shirt top
846
00:43:31,192 --> 00:43:34,237
'cause he wouldn't go
completely bare-chested.
847
00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:40,535
The women got into it--
they were all fit-- and, um, they started
848
00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:43,038
pulling his ears and stuff and...
849
00:43:43,121 --> 00:43:45,165
People would take a little advantage
'cause they think,
850
00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:48,001
well, you could do anything you want
to hurt him, you know.
851
00:43:48,084 --> 00:43:50,128
You could say anything,
you could hurt him.
852
00:43:50,211 --> 00:43:52,714
"He's so big,
I couldn't possibly hurt him."
853
00:43:53,298 --> 00:43:56,092
He didn't like, uh, he didn't enjoy that.
I never...
854
00:43:56,176 --> 00:43:58,720
You know, I, I understood that.
855
00:44:00,221 --> 00:44:06,144
But... it's the face you put
on the world that defines who you are.
856
00:44:06,227 --> 00:44:07,312
The face he puts on the world
857
00:44:07,395 --> 00:44:10,315
is-is friendly and happy,
and you could be mean,
858
00:44:10,398 --> 00:44:13,943
you know, or insult people
or fight back, but he didn't.
859
00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:16,946
Maybe I should fold.
860
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:19,074
Well, let me see, let me see first.
861
00:44:19,157 --> 00:44:21,993
No, not with a hand like that, come on.
862
00:44:22,077 --> 00:44:24,746
Dare me, go on, bluff me, come on.
863
00:44:24,829 --> 00:44:26,498
How much should I bet?
864
00:44:26,581 --> 00:44:28,958
If it were me, I'd bet everything.
865
00:44:29,042 --> 00:44:31,544
But that's me, I'm an aggressive gambler.
Mr. Vegas.
866
00:44:34,464 --> 00:44:35,590
- Come on.
- Mm...
867
00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:38,259
Go for it. Go for it.
868
00:44:38,343 --> 00:44:40,845
Yes, yes, there we go,
I'm in.
869
00:44:40,929 --> 00:44:43,098
- What do you got?
- Well, I got a full house.
870
00:44:43,181 --> 00:44:45,475
Three threes and two sixes.
That's a full house.
871
00:44:45,558 --> 00:44:46,684
What have you got?
872
00:44:46,768 --> 00:44:47,894
- Oh, you have--
- Two fours, I got an ace.
873
00:44:47,977 --> 00:44:49,437
You got an ace, an eight, and a seven.
874
00:44:49,521 --> 00:44:50,730
Well, you lose, you see.
875
00:44:50,814 --> 00:44:52,690
If you would've had four fours,
you would've won.
876
00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:55,693
- You're getting good at this, aren't you?
- Starting to get the hang of it, though.
877
00:44:55,777 --> 00:44:57,570
You like it? Isn't this fun?
878
00:44:57,654 --> 00:44:59,697
You're pretty good
for a first time, really.
879
00:44:59,781 --> 00:45:01,699
We're here in what's
kind of a retreat for you,
880
00:45:01,783 --> 00:45:04,202
a place which I imagine
you don't see that often.
881
00:45:04,285 --> 00:45:08,289
Do you have any idea how big a star
you are in your hometown?
882
00:45:08,373 --> 00:45:09,833
Uh, no.
883
00:45:09,916 --> 00:45:11,876
Do you know that when you appear
on-screen in Stripes,
884
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,878
I've been told that people cheer?
885
00:45:13,962 --> 00:45:16,339
They say, "There's John Candy, our hero."
886
00:45:16,423 --> 00:45:18,383
That's nice to hear.
887
00:45:18,466 --> 00:45:21,052
Does any... Is any of that sinking in,
or is it just weird?
888
00:45:21,136 --> 00:45:22,929
It's... it's very weird, you know.
889
00:45:23,012 --> 00:45:25,265
Uh... it's hard to relate to.
890
00:45:26,349 --> 00:45:28,768
This is the house, you know, it's my home.
891
00:45:28,852 --> 00:45:30,937
I feel comfortable here.
I like New York,
892
00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:32,188
but New York drives me crazy.
893
00:45:32,272 --> 00:45:33,523
It's just so...
894
00:45:33,606 --> 00:45:35,942
And especially I go crazy there,
I like it.
895
00:45:36,025 --> 00:45:37,944
It's too much of a good thing.
896
00:45:38,027 --> 00:45:39,028
There's everything.
897
00:45:39,112 --> 00:45:40,697
John Belushi said, uh,
898
00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:44,576
when he, he was trying to convince me to
do Saturday Night Live, and he said, uh,
899
00:45:44,659 --> 00:45:46,911
and he played
Frank Sinatra's "New York, New York,"
900
00:45:46,995 --> 00:45:50,707
and he said,
"Look, this is... New York is Rome."
901
00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:57,338
{\an8}Comic actor John Belushi
died today
902
00:45:57,422 --> 00:46:00,175
at a rented hotel bungalow
in the Hollywood Hills.
903
00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:04,387
{\an8}Los Angeles Times quoted a source who said
the comedian had cocaine in his blood.
904
00:46:09,142 --> 00:46:12,896
I told John, John burst into tears,
905
00:46:12,979 --> 00:46:16,608
and he said, "Oh, God, it's starting."
906
00:46:22,071 --> 00:46:23,990
I can't even.
907
00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:26,409
'Cause I got it.
908
00:46:26,493 --> 00:46:27,911
I knew what he meant.
909
00:46:27,994 --> 00:46:30,413
I knew that it was like...
910
00:46:30,497 --> 00:46:36,836
the fun times
all these 20-year-old kids had.
911
00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:39,839
It could end.
912
00:46:41,508 --> 00:46:44,385
You know, it's heavy,
but it's, it's the child brain.
913
00:46:44,469 --> 00:46:46,054
It's... that's where we go.
914
00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:51,601
It comes from this place psychologically,
this fear of
915
00:46:51,684 --> 00:46:54,687
"Are you going to die soon?
Are you going to die soon?
916
00:46:54,771 --> 00:46:56,689
Are you okay?"
917
00:46:56,773 --> 00:47:00,193
A-And I had that experience as a kid.
918
00:47:00,276 --> 00:47:01,945
"Mom, are you going to die soon?"
919
00:47:04,072 --> 00:47:10,411
At that time
I seem to recall John saying, "I...
920
00:47:10,495 --> 00:47:13,331
don't know whether I'm going
to make it past 35."
921
00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:19,379
So, John's father dies at 35
922
00:47:19,462 --> 00:47:22,215
on his fifth birthday.
923
00:47:23,758 --> 00:47:28,513
And John knows that he has
his father's heart.
924
00:47:30,306 --> 00:47:33,935
I think I met John when he was 33 or 34.
925
00:47:34,435 --> 00:47:40,275
So right then and there, his sensibility
is that he is living on borrowed time
926
00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:43,069
and he is going to go away
927
00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:46,406
in the wink of an eye,
just like his father did.
928
00:47:52,245 --> 00:47:56,708
I remember one night John
was at a party at Marty Short's house.
929
00:47:56,791 --> 00:48:00,003
So he was drinking that night and then
930
00:48:00,086 --> 00:48:02,964
he kind of got maudlin
and wanted to leave.
931
00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:06,217
And I had driven him,
and I rolled down the window
932
00:48:06,301 --> 00:48:09,262
and I'm talking to him and I'm saying,
"John, come on, get in the car."
933
00:48:09,345 --> 00:48:13,182
He walked, I would say, half a mile,
maybe three-quarters of a mile
934
00:48:13,266 --> 00:48:15,268
before he finally got in the car.
935
00:48:15,351 --> 00:48:17,937
And then he goes...
936
00:48:18,438 --> 00:48:20,565
"You don't know, Dave.
937
00:48:20,648 --> 00:48:22,609
You don't know what I go through.
938
00:48:22,692 --> 00:48:25,361
You don't know what I have in my head."
939
00:48:25,445 --> 00:48:29,365
And I said, "Well, I got a feeling
gonna find out tonight."
940
00:48:32,493 --> 00:48:38,625
He carried the weight
of his father passing almost every day.
941
00:48:39,125 --> 00:48:45,673
Those things were in his mind,
in his heart, and he carried them.
942
00:48:46,341 --> 00:48:47,550
You can't carry it.
943
00:48:48,968 --> 00:48:50,595
The weight of everyone.
944
00:48:51,721 --> 00:48:53,222
The weight of his past.
945
00:48:54,682 --> 00:48:55,933
He didn't want to go
946
00:48:56,017 --> 00:48:58,561
to a doctor because he was going
to find out he was gonna have
947
00:48:58,645 --> 00:49:00,396
to change his behavior.
948
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,565
You know, you go to a doctor,
and your doctor is going to say,
949
00:49:02,649 --> 00:49:03,733
"You're gonna have to stop drinking."
950
00:49:03,816 --> 00:49:05,818
"Well, I don't want to stop drinking."
951
00:49:05,902 --> 00:49:07,737
Because he was addicted.
952
00:49:07,820 --> 00:49:09,155
It's a coping mechanism, right?
953
00:49:09,238 --> 00:49:11,616
His coping mechanism was,
"I'm gonna eat, I'm gonna drink,
954
00:49:11,699 --> 00:49:15,703
and if I stop doing that, you know,
uh, I'm not going to work."
955
00:49:15,787 --> 00:49:17,872
You know, it's all...
it was just a circle.
956
00:49:18,373 --> 00:49:21,459
You just... sometimes you just deny it,
you know, you just go...
957
00:49:22,627 --> 00:49:24,545
They're masters of their own ship.
958
00:49:24,629 --> 00:49:31,386
And him in a business where your,
um, appearance was so important,
959
00:49:31,469 --> 00:49:35,348
I'm sure that was an added stress
to his, his existence,
960
00:49:35,431 --> 00:49:37,433
but then it was part of him, too.
961
00:49:37,517 --> 00:49:39,185
Now, you look, uh,
you look a little different
962
00:49:39,268 --> 00:49:40,353
from the last time you were here.
963
00:49:40,436 --> 00:49:41,562
Lost a few pounds.
964
00:49:41,646 --> 00:49:43,564
- Really?
- I went to a place called, uh,
965
00:49:43,648 --> 00:49:45,942
the Pritikin Longevity Center
out in, uh, California.
966
00:49:46,025 --> 00:49:47,026
Mm-hmm.
967
00:49:47,110 --> 00:49:48,319
I spent 26 days in there.
968
00:49:48,403 --> 00:49:49,404
Whew. [chuckles]
969
00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:51,030
I don't smoke anymore, I quit smoking.
970
00:49:51,114 --> 00:49:53,241
You were, you were there
almost a month, right?
971
00:49:53,324 --> 00:49:55,743
- Yeah, 26 days.
- Now, c-can you, can you mention how,
972
00:49:55,827 --> 00:49:57,745
how much you weighed before you went in,
or do you not want to say?
973
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:59,831
Oh... I was 341 pounds.
974
00:49:59,914 --> 00:50:00,998
That was a lot.
975
00:50:01,082 --> 00:50:03,543
At home he worked on it
all the time.
976
00:50:03,626 --> 00:50:06,212
And he would try.
You know, he had a trainer every day.
977
00:50:06,295 --> 00:50:08,131
He was always on a program of eating.
978
00:50:08,214 --> 00:50:11,634
He'd always check in with his doctors,
and they'd say he's fine.
979
00:50:11,718 --> 00:50:12,969
Now, you dropped how much?
980
00:50:13,052 --> 00:50:14,721
- Seventy pounds so far, and, uh...
- Yeah?
981
00:50:17,515 --> 00:50:18,599
But then
982
00:50:18,683 --> 00:50:20,685
the industry wanted him big.
983
00:50:21,769 --> 00:50:25,815
I remember an agency said, "Don't drop
any more weight, whatever you're doing."
984
00:50:25,898 --> 00:50:28,818
And in John's little mind,
"Oh, okay, keep eating.
985
00:50:28,901 --> 00:50:29,944
This is what they like.
986
00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,155
They want me big, I'll stay big."
987
00:50:34,115 --> 00:50:36,075
I worried.
988
00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:41,831
Honey, just relax, okay?
989
00:50:41,914 --> 00:50:44,083
I told you I'm not angry anymore.
I'm in complete control.
990
00:50:44,167 --> 00:50:47,044
I'm sure they're not repairing
every ride at the same time.
991
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,678
Sorry, folks, park's closed.
992
00:50:55,762 --> 00:50:57,513
The moose out front should've told you.
993
00:50:58,598 --> 00:51:01,559
Harold Ramis,
who was writing for SCTV,
994
00:51:01,642 --> 00:51:02,852
he did Vacation.
995
00:51:02,935 --> 00:51:04,395
Walley World!
996
00:51:04,479 --> 00:51:06,397
The ending didn't test well.
997
00:51:06,481 --> 00:51:09,984
It was, like, awful,
so they called in my dad as an emergency.
998
00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:11,986
Like, "We need to change the ending.
999
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:14,113
You're gonna be perfect for this role."
1000
00:51:14,197 --> 00:51:15,907
My dad was like, "Yeah, I'll come in."
1001
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:17,325
{\an8}John was great.
1002
00:51:17,408 --> 00:51:18,409
{\an8}I knew him really well,
1003
00:51:18,493 --> 00:51:22,747
{\an8}and he had a character he'd created
on SCTV called Paul Fistinyourface,
1004
00:51:22,830 --> 00:51:24,373
{\an8}who was just kind of a big clod.
1005
00:51:24,457 --> 00:51:26,417
Some of the people of the town left, too.
1006
00:51:26,501 --> 00:51:30,630
Well, nobody, uh, nobody notified
this office of, um, of anything.
1007
00:51:30,713 --> 00:51:32,340
And I asked him
to kind of do this character
1008
00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:35,009
as a relative of Paul Fistinyourface.
1009
00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:42,225
And Vacation,
it was just massive.
1010
00:51:42,725 --> 00:51:46,312
I knew he was star-bound,
and you could see it in Splash.
1011
00:51:46,896 --> 00:51:49,899
He was amazingly funny,
1012
00:51:49,982 --> 00:51:51,275
and that was Johnny Toronto.
1013
00:51:51,859 --> 00:51:55,613
And that's basically the character
that came out in Splash.
1014
00:51:55,696 --> 00:51:58,574
How drunk you get is dependent
on how much alcohol you consume
1015
00:51:58,658 --> 00:52:00,701
in relation to your total body weight.
1016
00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:01,869
You see my point?
1017
00:52:01,953 --> 00:52:03,663
It's not that you had a lot to drink.
1018
00:52:03,746 --> 00:52:05,081
It's just, you're too skinny.
1019
00:52:06,457 --> 00:52:07,542
It was really
1020
00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:09,794
just a gas--
it was like a working vacation.
1021
00:52:09,877 --> 00:52:12,922
Working with John Candy,
on the other hand, that was scary
1022
00:52:13,005 --> 00:52:16,801
'cause, uh, I was such a big fan
of both John and Eugene Levy's,
1023
00:52:16,884 --> 00:52:18,678
uh, for their work from Second City
1024
00:52:18,761 --> 00:52:21,556
that I was a little bit trepidatious
about going into this,
1025
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:25,476
quite certain that they could blow me
off the screen without too much effort.
1026
00:52:25,977 --> 00:52:29,105
Ron Howard's a, a rough man to work for.
1027
00:52:29,188 --> 00:52:31,315
I can't stand him...
1028
00:52:31,399 --> 00:52:34,151
uh, his family.
1029
00:52:35,236 --> 00:52:36,946
Tom Hanks...
1030
00:52:38,072 --> 00:52:43,202
...with all his problems,
couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.
1031
00:52:43,286 --> 00:52:44,370
Freddie, you and I have to talk.
1032
00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:45,955
What, is it the missing petty cash?
1033
00:52:46,038 --> 00:52:47,874
- It was the cleaning girl.
- No, I don't care about that.
1034
00:52:47,957 --> 00:52:49,083
- You don't?
- No.
1035
00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:50,418
Then it was me. I admit the whole thing.
1036
00:52:50,501 --> 00:52:54,213
One thing that knocked me out was,
John was inclusive.
1037
00:52:54,297 --> 00:52:56,632
John was not trying to score on top of me.
1038
00:52:56,716 --> 00:52:59,010
He was not trying to have
the funniest lines.
1039
00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:00,261
He was trying to develop
1040
00:53:00,344 --> 00:53:01,596
a back-and-forth.
1041
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:05,516
I did not understand that
about the improvisational process.
1042
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,894
He was like... "Yes, and..."
1043
00:53:07,977 --> 00:53:11,397
He was, like, waiting for me
to come up with something else
1044
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,066
that would make it better
and extend the beat.
1045
00:53:14,817 --> 00:53:18,070
We had the scenes when the two brothers
are in our office, you know,
1046
00:53:18,154 --> 00:53:21,032
and he starts talking
about what he did last night.
1047
00:53:21,115 --> 00:53:23,242
Maybe I went to the, uh,
Club A last night.
1048
00:53:23,326 --> 00:53:25,286
Oh, something new for you.
1049
00:53:25,369 --> 00:53:28,414
Maybe I met Mr. Buyrite,
the owner of Buyrite Supermarkets.
1050
00:53:29,832 --> 00:53:33,252
And maybe, just maybe,
we're his new produce suppliers.
1051
00:53:33,336 --> 00:53:37,465
It wasn't until then
that I realized that, oh, John is
1052
00:53:37,548 --> 00:53:40,301
inviting me to play with him.
1053
00:53:40,384 --> 00:53:43,721
We came up with all sorts of brand-new
stuff right then and there about the desk.
1054
00:53:43,804 --> 00:53:45,056
I was out drinking with this bum
1055
00:53:45,139 --> 00:53:46,599
- all night long.
- I have to pick up my tuxedo this evening.
1056
00:53:46,682 --> 00:53:47,683
I'm busting my buns all night drinking
1057
00:53:47,767 --> 00:53:49,602
- with this guy, getting a big deal.
- All the way up on East 77th Street.
1058
00:53:49,685 --> 00:53:51,020
- Come on, you can handle this, Allen.
- For crying out loud.
1059
00:53:51,103 --> 00:53:52,313
- Come on, relax...
- Oh, yeah, I'll handle fine, no problem.
1060
00:53:52,396 --> 00:53:53,481
- Clean up the desk.
- Don't touch the desk.
1061
00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:54,732
Why does it always look
like a pigsty here?
1062
00:53:54,815 --> 00:53:55,942
- Leave the desk alone.
- Do what I do.
1063
00:53:56,025 --> 00:53:57,735
- Throw it in the drawer.
- I have a system on the desk!
1064
00:53:57,818 --> 00:53:58,903
You know, I'm on the phone
1065
00:53:58,986 --> 00:54:01,656
and John just picked up the phone
and started goofing like that.
1066
00:54:01,739 --> 00:54:03,824
If we were married,
you wouldn't just move out like this.
1067
00:54:03,908 --> 00:54:05,034
She might do that, sure.
1068
00:54:05,117 --> 00:54:06,243
Will you get off?
1069
00:54:06,911 --> 00:54:08,537
- Was that you?
- Get off the phone!
1070
00:54:08,621 --> 00:54:09,914
- I'm so sorry.
- No, no, no,
1071
00:54:09,997 --> 00:54:11,123
not you, not you, Victoria, no.
1072
00:54:11,207 --> 00:54:12,416
I didn't know you were on the phone.
1073
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:13,751
It was additive.
1074
00:54:13,834 --> 00:54:16,253
It was additive and inclusive.
1075
00:54:16,337 --> 00:54:18,214
And the racquetball scene.
1076
00:54:18,297 --> 00:54:21,092
He had been up the night before,
I'm sure, studying his lines.
1077
00:54:21,175 --> 00:54:23,219
Right, that part to the story.
1078
00:54:23,302 --> 00:54:27,056
He was out drinking somewhere,
and lo and behold, Jack Nicholson came in.
1079
00:54:27,139 --> 00:54:30,017
And Jack knew John,
and John... and they...
1080
00:54:30,101 --> 00:54:31,978
or maybe they met
for the first time right there.
1081
00:54:32,061 --> 00:54:33,980
But they dra... they drank.
1082
00:54:34,563 --> 00:54:36,941
If Jack Nicholson
called me into a bar
1083
00:54:37,024 --> 00:54:39,235
and kept me up all night
drinking... [laughs]
1084
00:54:39,318 --> 00:54:40,569
I would do it.
1085
00:54:40,653 --> 00:54:43,447
So John is coming in not only exhausted,
1086
00:54:43,531 --> 00:54:45,741
probably with only maybe
an hour and a half sleep,
1087
00:54:45,825 --> 00:54:47,743
but he's also coming in
1088
00:54:47,827 --> 00:54:49,078
fueled by an evening
1089
00:54:49,161 --> 00:54:50,997
with Jack Nicholson.
1090
00:54:53,249 --> 00:54:56,210
And we have to do
a very physical thing, you know.
1091
00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:57,294
Son of a bitch.
1092
00:54:58,212 --> 00:55:00,506
E-Everybody is laughing
on one thing,
1093
00:55:00,589 --> 00:55:06,679
and John is utilizing his exhaustion
to a degree that works for my brother.
1094
00:55:10,891 --> 00:55:12,435
How long we been playing?
1095
00:55:12,518 --> 00:55:13,602
About five minutes.
1096
00:55:13,686 --> 00:55:15,563
Oh, God.
1097
00:55:15,646 --> 00:55:17,648
My heart's beating like a rabbit.
1098
00:55:19,025 --> 00:55:20,985
You, uh, want a beer?
1099
00:55:21,068 --> 00:55:22,069
How many takes
did it take you
1100
00:55:22,153 --> 00:55:24,905
to do the shot where you hit the ball
against the wall
1101
00:55:24,989 --> 00:55:26,699
and it rebounds off your head?
1102
00:55:26,782 --> 00:55:29,243
Well, you're not going
to believe this, but three.
1103
00:55:30,536 --> 00:55:31,537
Oh!
1104
00:55:33,497 --> 00:55:35,124
Now, John, one of the most
effective scenes
1105
00:55:35,207 --> 00:55:40,087
in the film is really your scene, when
you're telling Tom Hanks, "Listen, kid,
1106
00:55:40,171 --> 00:55:41,422
if you're in love, you're in love.
1107
00:55:41,505 --> 00:55:43,299
It may never happen to me."
1108
00:55:43,382 --> 00:55:44,675
People fall in love every day, huh?
1109
00:55:44,759 --> 00:55:45,843
- Is that what you said?
- Yeah.
1110
00:55:45,926 --> 00:55:46,927
Yeah?
1111
00:55:47,011 --> 00:55:48,220
Well, that's a crock.
1112
00:55:48,304 --> 00:55:49,805
It doesn't work that way.
1113
00:55:50,389 --> 00:55:52,349
Look, do you realize
how happy you were with her?
1114
00:55:52,433 --> 00:55:55,061
That is, of course,
when you weren't driving yourself crazy.
1115
00:55:55,644 --> 00:55:58,314
You... Hey, come on.
1116
00:55:58,397 --> 00:56:00,232
Some people will never be that happy.
1117
00:56:00,316 --> 00:56:01,942
I'll never be that happy.
1118
00:56:03,027 --> 00:56:04,695
It was one of the reasons
I wanted to do the picture.
1119
00:56:04,779 --> 00:56:06,363
Uh, the-the script allowed me to do
1120
00:56:06,447 --> 00:56:09,742
something other than, uh,
play racquetball.
1121
00:56:10,242 --> 00:56:11,619
That really was big.
1122
00:56:12,912 --> 00:56:15,748
Splash made John a bona fide star.
1123
00:56:22,254 --> 00:56:23,881
There is a change
that starts to happen,
1124
00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,217
and he becomes this huge celebrity.
1125
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:28,511
And it happened so fast.
1126
00:56:33,891 --> 00:56:35,309
Once you hit
movie stardom...
1127
00:56:35,392 --> 00:56:37,812
- Mm-hmm.
- ...how difficult is it to keep your life
1128
00:56:37,895 --> 00:56:39,939
as normal as possible?
1129
00:56:40,022 --> 00:56:42,525
You know, you just try
to put things in perspective.
1130
00:56:42,608 --> 00:56:44,276
You know, life is too short.
1131
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,530
You know, this is a real place,
these are real people around me,
1132
00:56:47,613 --> 00:56:49,406
and you got to do real things every day.
1133
00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:51,909
You know, you got to change the kitty
litter, you got to take the garbage out,
1134
00:56:51,992 --> 00:56:54,620
you got to do things, um,
you've got responsibilities.
1135
00:56:54,703 --> 00:56:55,788
You know, I chose that life.
1136
00:56:55,871 --> 00:56:57,790
Lot of people don't want
the responsibilities,
1137
00:56:57,873 --> 00:56:59,542
a family, a home... you know,
1138
00:56:59,625 --> 00:57:02,837
and a lot of people just love to
"Let's take it, let's roll," you know.
1139
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,171
Live fast, die young, you know.
1140
00:57:04,255 --> 00:57:06,173
Legs Diamond.
1141
00:57:06,257 --> 00:57:07,716
Uh, "Let's go for it."
1142
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,803
And that-that's just not the way
I choose to live my life.
1143
00:57:11,887 --> 00:57:13,097
Stay that way.
1144
00:57:19,854 --> 00:57:23,357
{\an8}I'm a comedy fan
and I'm interested
1145
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,192
{\an8}in comedy performers and writers,
1146
00:57:25,276 --> 00:57:28,404
{\an8}but I never think in a million years
that that's something I'll do.
1147
00:57:30,030 --> 00:57:35,619
I think it's the fall of my senior year,
and I'm the president of the Lampoon,
1148
00:57:35,703 --> 00:57:39,790
and we got this idea that we could have
our heroes come visit the Lampoon,
1149
00:57:39,874 --> 00:57:43,377
and I was very eager to get
John Candy to come.
1150
00:57:43,878 --> 00:57:47,423
And then we hear back through his people,
"Yes, he'll come."
1151
00:57:47,506 --> 00:57:51,093
So I drive to Logan Airport--
1152
00:57:51,177 --> 00:57:54,221
he took a commercial flight from Toronto--
1153
00:57:54,305 --> 00:57:57,099
and I see John Candy
coming down an escalator.
1154
00:57:58,184 --> 00:58:02,188
He had a camera around his neck
like a tourist.
1155
00:58:02,271 --> 00:58:04,732
You know the way
if John Candy was gonna play a tourist,
1156
00:58:04,815 --> 00:58:06,650
he'd have a big camera around his neck?
1157
00:58:06,734 --> 00:58:08,360
And he'd be like, "Oh, wow, golly gee!"
1158
00:58:08,444 --> 00:58:09,862
That's the way he was.
1159
00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:12,489
There's a picture of me in Harvard Yard,
1160
00:58:12,573 --> 00:58:14,408
and there's a picture of me
at Adams House.
1161
00:58:15,492 --> 00:58:18,704
I have proof that for two instances
1162
00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:21,457
he pointed a camera at me
and took a picture,
1163
00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:25,753
which is a testament to my insane ego...
1164
00:58:27,379 --> 00:58:29,089
...that all I care about...
1165
00:58:30,341 --> 00:58:34,136
We were going to show a big montage
of all of his clips,
1166
00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:37,264
and everybody on campus wanted to go,
1167
00:58:37,348 --> 00:58:40,142
and he's everything you want him to be.
1168
00:58:40,226 --> 00:58:42,478
He's John Candy times ten.
1169
00:58:42,561 --> 00:58:44,939
He's screwing around,
he's making everybody laugh.
1170
00:58:45,022 --> 00:58:49,818
I remember him very clearly watching the
clips as if he hadn't seen them before.
1171
00:58:51,153 --> 00:58:53,280
He filled a room with his aura.
1172
00:58:53,364 --> 00:58:59,787
He was expansive and joyful
and kind of voracious about everything.
1173
00:59:01,205 --> 00:59:05,626
I remember admitting to him
that I was very interested in comedy...
1174
00:59:05,709 --> 00:59:07,753
and I might even want to try it.
1175
00:59:07,836 --> 00:59:09,380
I'll never forget this.
1176
00:59:09,463 --> 00:59:12,258
He looked me square in the eye
and he said, "You don't try it.
1177
00:59:12,341 --> 00:59:14,093
You either do it or you don't do it.
1178
00:59:14,176 --> 00:59:16,178
You don't try it, kid."
1179
00:59:16,262 --> 00:59:18,305
And that spoke to me.
1180
00:59:18,389 --> 00:59:21,976
Like, "All in, kid, all in or not at all."
1181
00:59:32,987 --> 00:59:36,156
And what does your own
family feel about having a famous son?
1182
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,241
It's hard on them.
1183
00:59:37,324 --> 00:59:40,286
My brother, I think,
doesn't like it that much.
1184
00:59:40,369 --> 00:59:41,912
It's always, "You're John's brother."
1185
00:59:41,996 --> 00:59:46,333
He's my older brother, too, so that's,
that's even worse on an older brother.
1186
00:59:46,417 --> 00:59:49,461
Um, I feel terrible about that, but...
1187
00:59:49,962 --> 00:59:51,672
How are you as a husband?
1188
00:59:51,755 --> 00:59:52,923
As a husband?
1189
00:59:53,007 --> 00:59:55,384
Geez, real bad, I guess,
because I'm hardly here.
1190
00:59:55,467 --> 00:59:56,510
I'm an actor.
1191
00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:57,678
And you're a father.
1192
00:59:57,761 --> 00:59:59,513
Yeah, that's great,
and there's my daughter
1193
00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:01,974
over there-- Jennifer.
1194
01:00:02,057 --> 01:00:04,601
Which is the best thing
that ever happened to me.
1195
01:00:07,771 --> 01:00:08,772
There you go.
1196
01:00:08,856 --> 01:00:11,150
Whoa!
1197
01:00:11,233 --> 01:00:15,237
My dad had purchased this farm
in a town called Queensville
1198
01:00:15,321 --> 01:00:18,032
when I was less than a year old.
1199
01:00:19,283 --> 01:00:20,868
For my dad, I think that was his getaway.
1200
01:00:21,952 --> 01:00:24,955
It was this gigantic,
sprawling property,
1201
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:27,499
but it was a very simple house
with a pool.
1202
01:00:27,583 --> 01:00:31,128
There was a hammock in the backyard
and a beautiful red barn.
1203
01:00:31,628 --> 01:00:33,422
And I also think it was a way out.
1204
01:00:34,757 --> 01:00:37,843
You've turned down films
because it would require traveling.
1205
01:00:37,926 --> 01:00:39,595
Yeah, a lot of times
I've had to do that.
1206
01:00:39,678 --> 01:00:41,597
Well, now the kids are getting
a little older
1207
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,057
and I want to spend some time, and I...
1208
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,142
Geez, my daughter was...
you know, it seems
1209
01:00:45,225 --> 01:00:46,810
like she was just born
and now she's in school.
1210
01:00:47,394 --> 01:00:50,147
And they grow up just so fast.
I mean, it's been said so many times,
1211
01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:53,192
but they do grow up so quickly and I just
want to spend some time with them
1212
01:00:53,275 --> 01:00:56,945
so they can say, "Oh, yeah, that's my
father," you know, not that guy on TV.
1213
01:00:57,029 --> 01:01:01,075
He loved being a dad, you know,
and he got involved in the community,
1214
01:01:01,158 --> 01:01:03,452
loved doing things
with the kids at school.
1215
01:01:03,535 --> 01:01:04,828
3D baby.
1216
01:01:04,912 --> 01:01:06,872
He was a kid, actually.
1217
01:01:07,456 --> 01:01:09,500
He was a child.
1218
01:01:10,084 --> 01:01:13,587
I think the happiest
I ever saw John
1219
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:16,215
was when he's in his own kitchen.
1220
01:01:16,298 --> 01:01:20,302
I think the Johnny Toronto lifestyle
that he had
1221
01:01:20,386 --> 01:01:22,054
took a lot of energy.
1222
01:01:22,137 --> 01:01:24,973
H-He wanted to be, um...
1223
01:01:26,016 --> 01:01:28,435
...s-smaller, you know, in the world.
1224
01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:29,812
{\an8}Ooh, excuse me.
1225
01:01:29,895 --> 01:01:31,980
{\an8}- Ow!
- Oh, geez, I'm sorry.
1226
01:01:32,064 --> 01:01:34,274
- Really, I didn't mean to.
- Hey, that was my hand.
1227
01:01:34,858 --> 01:01:37,611
Everybody who worked
with him fell in love with him.
1228
01:01:38,195 --> 01:01:40,697
{\an8}Carl said when he was making
Summer Rental, he couldn't wait
1229
01:01:40,781 --> 01:01:41,949
{\an8}to get to the set
1230
01:01:42,032 --> 01:01:44,201
{\an8}to schmooze with John Candy.
1231
01:01:44,284 --> 01:01:46,870
You took a vacation away from my family.
1232
01:01:46,954 --> 01:01:48,789
Now I'm gonna take something
away from you.
1233
01:01:48,872 --> 01:01:51,500
He would be remembered very simply
1234
01:01:51,583 --> 01:01:53,168
for his good nature.
1235
01:01:53,252 --> 01:01:56,755
He's going on set
to make people happy, from the crew
1236
01:01:56,839 --> 01:01:58,882
to the makeup to the wardrobe
1237
01:01:58,966 --> 01:02:00,843
to the drivers.
1238
01:02:00,926 --> 01:02:02,928
He's there to have fun with people.
1239
01:02:03,512 --> 01:02:05,013
Hi!
1240
01:02:06,765 --> 01:02:09,059
He took care of his mom,
he took care of his aunt,
1241
01:02:09,143 --> 01:02:13,147
he took care of his brother,
he took care of his cousins, and
1242
01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:14,314
he took care of us.
1243
01:02:14,398 --> 01:02:18,902
The way John treated his family
spoke boatloads about the guy,
1244
01:02:18,986 --> 01:02:21,071
and you saw more depth
1245
01:02:21,155 --> 01:02:26,285
and heart in a guy
that has that aspect to his life.
1246
01:02:26,869 --> 01:02:32,207
He doesn't take roles that
didn't play to a certain thought process
1247
01:02:32,291 --> 01:02:36,545
or a dream of, like, "I want to be
like that" or "I want to be like this."
1248
01:02:36,628 --> 01:02:37,629
Give me a hug.
1249
01:02:38,422 --> 01:02:40,132
- What?
- Give me a hug, will you?
1250
01:02:40,215 --> 01:02:41,216
- Dad.
- Come on.
1251
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:45,012
- I'm too old for hugs.
- Oh, you're never too old for hugs.
1252
01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:49,141
As much as he was John Candy,
it was also playing John Candy.
1253
01:02:49,224 --> 01:02:51,560
Like, he was a dad.
1254
01:02:51,643 --> 01:02:53,395
You know, we got in trouble,
we got yelled at.
1255
01:02:53,479 --> 01:02:54,730
Go on, get out!
1256
01:02:54,813 --> 01:02:56,607
But it was also a lot of love.
1257
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,112
You're still a nonsmoker, aren't you?
1258
01:03:02,196 --> 01:03:03,322
Daddy.
1259
01:03:03,405 --> 01:03:04,907
Just being a dad, that's all.
1260
01:03:06,241 --> 01:03:09,578
In a way, yeah, it's like he, uh,
he created for himself
1261
01:03:09,661 --> 01:03:12,164
the father he probably always wanted.
1262
01:03:12,247 --> 01:03:16,418
You and I coming up to the woods
is like your father bringing you here.
1263
01:03:16,502 --> 01:03:17,794
Yeah, I guess so.
1264
01:03:17,878 --> 01:03:20,255
Yeah, I understand.
1265
01:03:20,339 --> 01:03:24,510
He brought so much of his own
vulnerability and sweetness
1266
01:03:24,593 --> 01:03:29,556
and kindness
into the characters he created,
1267
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,101
and he was such a good actor,
he could convey that without any effort.
1268
01:03:33,185 --> 01:03:34,269
The Chesters.
1269
01:03:35,229 --> 01:03:37,981
He was a consummate actor.
1270
01:03:38,565 --> 01:03:42,736
He knew what was required
and he knew he could deliver it.
1271
01:03:44,154 --> 01:03:48,242
He stuck acting in his back pocket
and behaved like a human being.
1272
01:03:48,742 --> 01:03:51,870
He was a total actor
because he was a total person.
1273
01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,835
Carl told me it was a delight
1274
01:03:58,919 --> 01:04:03,799
because John Candy was so much fun
and so good-natured, and
1275
01:04:03,882 --> 01:04:06,552
he said, "If you ever get a chance..."
I said, "I'm looking for a mog."
1276
01:04:06,635 --> 01:04:07,719
He said, "What's that?"
1277
01:04:07,803 --> 01:04:09,513
Half man, half dog.
1278
01:04:09,596 --> 01:04:11,139
I'm my own best friend.
1279
01:04:11,223 --> 01:04:12,891
And my next picture called...
1280
01:04:12,975 --> 01:04:14,643
Spaceballs.
1281
01:04:14,726 --> 01:04:18,981
May the Schwartz be with you...
1282
01:04:19,064 --> 01:04:21,149
- Who are you?
- I'm the best man.
1283
01:04:21,233 --> 01:04:22,317
- What's your name?
- Barf.
1284
01:04:22,401 --> 01:04:23,443
Your full name.
1285
01:04:23,527 --> 01:04:24,570
Barfolomew.
1286
01:04:25,571 --> 01:04:26,572
We're not just
1287
01:04:26,655 --> 01:04:28,407
doing this for money.
1288
01:04:28,490 --> 01:04:30,325
We're doing it for a shitload of money.
1289
01:04:30,409 --> 01:04:31,577
Give me paw.
1290
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,875
Holy shit.
1291
01:04:44,381 --> 01:04:47,050
Um, he did it.
1292
01:04:48,135 --> 01:04:52,514
One day John took my chair that said
"director" and he just sits down.
1293
01:04:52,598 --> 01:04:53,599
And I said, "John...
1294
01:04:53,682 --> 01:04:55,309
that's my chair."
1295
01:04:55,392 --> 01:04:56,768
He said, "I know.
1296
01:04:56,852 --> 01:04:59,146
I'm thinking of directing
and I want to know how it feels."
1297
01:04:59,229 --> 01:05:01,064
So...
1298
01:05:01,148 --> 01:05:03,400
he... he knocked me out.
1299
01:05:03,483 --> 01:05:05,152
He wanted to know how it feels.
1300
01:05:05,235 --> 01:05:06,820
And I said, "How?"
He said, "It's the same.
1301
01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:10,240
It's just the same. It's like sitting
in a regular chair, you know."
1302
01:05:12,659 --> 01:05:17,372
He had a wild, you know,
weird and beautiful sense of humor.
1303
01:05:17,456 --> 01:05:21,168
And blessed with a sweet nature
and a smile.
1304
01:05:21,251 --> 01:05:23,795
And that ever-loving smile.
1305
01:05:26,256 --> 01:05:29,009
Two generations past and we still...
1306
01:05:29,092 --> 01:05:35,349
his memory is still as vivid
and as lively as ever.
1307
01:05:38,769 --> 01:05:41,521
As kind as John was to people
that he was only going
1308
01:05:41,605 --> 01:05:46,443
to be with for a minute, when you're
working, you have to be professional.
1309
01:05:46,526 --> 01:05:47,694
You know, if it's not going right...
1310
01:05:47,778 --> 01:05:48,820
He had a lot of experience.
1311
01:05:48,904 --> 01:05:52,240
He made a lot of... bunch of movies,
did a lot of, you know...
1312
01:05:52,324 --> 01:05:54,868
certainly learned how
to work on the stage,
1313
01:05:54,951 --> 01:05:56,036
and that's how it was in a scene.
1314
01:05:56,119 --> 01:06:00,290
You couldn't let someone give you,
like, an ordinary slapdash thing.
1315
01:06:00,374 --> 01:06:02,626
You go, like, "No, no,
come on, this is real now.
1316
01:06:02,709 --> 01:06:06,505
We're not... we've got to give, you know?
1317
01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:08,965
You have to commit to doing
the best you can."
1318
01:06:10,467 --> 01:06:12,427
We did a stage reading, and it was
1319
01:06:12,511 --> 01:06:15,555
Marilyn Suzanne Miller,
a great writer on Saturday Night Live.
1320
01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:18,809
She wrote a play, and we got... somehow
Sydney Pollack was gonna direct it.
1321
01:06:20,477 --> 01:06:22,270
And we had a bunch of famous actors in it.
1322
01:06:22,354 --> 01:06:25,023
There was, like, Ray Liotta, Kevin Kline,
1323
01:06:25,107 --> 01:06:27,526
Candy, myself, only a handful of others.
1324
01:06:27,609 --> 01:06:30,987
And Candy had a scene
where he was in the bathroom,
1325
01:06:31,071 --> 01:06:34,574
you know, talking from ins... and...
1326
01:06:35,659 --> 01:06:38,245
...he milked it so bad, bad.
1327
01:06:38,328 --> 01:06:39,871
I mean, he milked it.
1328
01:06:39,955 --> 01:06:42,624
The timing was beyond...
1329
01:06:46,211 --> 01:06:47,587
...comprehension.
1330
01:06:47,671 --> 01:06:50,132
It was... it... you couldn't believe it.
1331
01:06:50,215 --> 01:06:53,176
And I'm-I'm, I'm watching,
and I'm watching Sydney Pollack,
1332
01:06:53,260 --> 01:06:56,304
who's going out of his mind
'cause John is just
1333
01:06:56,388 --> 01:07:00,434
milking it, milking it, milking it,
just having his own kind of fun,
1334
01:07:00,517 --> 01:07:04,730
and I'm going... and I'm laughing
'cause I know Sydney's gonna kill him.
1335
01:07:04,813 --> 01:07:07,190
Like, I-I don't know,
hearing John suck,
1336
01:07:07,274 --> 01:07:09,067
suck is more interesting to me than--
1337
01:07:09,151 --> 01:07:11,737
Oh, it wasn't sucking.
He was just milking.
1338
01:07:11,820 --> 01:07:13,155
He was just milking.
1339
01:07:13,238 --> 01:07:15,115
It wasn't like it wasn't funny.
1340
01:07:15,198 --> 01:07:20,996
It was just that it was shamefully,
um, irresponsible to, to the idea
1341
01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:25,167
that there might be another actor
in the scene or in the whole play.
1342
01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:27,878
I said it before and I'll say it again.
1343
01:07:27,961 --> 01:07:29,963
Life moves pretty fast.
1344
01:07:30,046 --> 01:07:32,466
You don't stop and look around
once in a while,
1345
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:33,800
you could miss it.
1346
01:07:35,761 --> 01:07:38,221
{\an8}♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey ♪
1347
01:07:39,306 --> 01:07:40,724
{\an8}♪ Ooh...
1348
01:07:40,807 --> 01:07:45,604
{\an8}When he meets up with John
Hughes, I think he really hit his stride.
1349
01:07:45,687 --> 01:07:47,856
Those two were like brothers,
1350
01:07:47,939 --> 01:07:49,608
you know,
the brothers they wanted to have.
1351
01:07:49,691 --> 01:07:52,694
{\an8}John Candy and John Hughes both had
1352
01:07:52,778 --> 01:07:55,322
{\an8}a great... what we call a bullshit meter.
1353
01:07:55,405 --> 01:07:57,032
They did not suffer fools,
1354
01:07:57,115 --> 01:07:59,743
and those two guys were kindred spirits.
1355
01:07:59,826 --> 01:08:02,287
John Hughes was
so in love with John Candy,
1356
01:08:02,370 --> 01:08:05,582
and they shared a beautiful,
dark sense of humor.
1357
01:08:05,665 --> 01:08:07,042
Good, dark jokes
1358
01:08:07,125 --> 01:08:08,043
but so real.
1359
01:08:08,126 --> 01:08:10,045
You know, the terror of being a parent.
1360
01:08:10,128 --> 01:08:12,047
It's the family
that would vacation together.
1361
01:08:12,130 --> 01:08:15,967
We would be at their farm, they would be
at our farm, we'd be at their house,
1362
01:08:16,051 --> 01:08:22,182
barbecues every holiday,
and I think that bled over into the films.
1363
01:08:22,265 --> 01:08:23,517
It's his best work,
1364
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,976
when the Johns worked together.
1365
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,438
{\an8}If you're gonna associate an actor
with John Hughes,
1366
01:08:28,522 --> 01:08:30,607
{\an8}a lot of people would think, like, "Oh,
Molly Ringwald" or something like that,
1367
01:08:30,690 --> 01:08:32,526
{\an8}and it's like, "No, it's John Candy."
1368
01:08:32,609 --> 01:08:34,820
I've done as many John Hughes movies
as Molly Ringwald.
1369
01:08:34,903 --> 01:08:35,904
We've both done three.
1370
01:08:35,987 --> 01:08:37,864
I think he did... Candy did nine.
1371
01:08:37,948 --> 01:08:39,616
You should associate those two.
1372
01:08:40,700 --> 01:08:43,912
Their work remained very,
very honest and real,
1373
01:08:43,995 --> 01:08:47,040
and I think when you're not going
to the grocery store
1374
01:08:47,123 --> 01:08:49,125
and you're not going to the local diner
in the morning
1375
01:08:49,209 --> 01:08:52,003
and you start separating yourselves
from real people,
1376
01:08:52,087 --> 01:08:55,173
that's where you lose your touch
with what's going on in the world,
1377
01:08:55,257 --> 01:08:58,051
and John Candy and John Hughes
never lost that.
1378
01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:01,429
I think, uh, John Hughes
was really watching John
1379
01:09:01,513 --> 01:09:04,891
and being, uh, taken by him...
1380
01:09:04,975 --> 01:09:06,935
in the best sense.
1381
01:09:07,018 --> 01:09:09,896
I could do a script and give it to John,
and John could...
1382
01:09:09,980 --> 01:09:11,773
he'd do the final check on it.
1383
01:09:11,857 --> 01:09:16,486
And, you know, that-that-that-that was,
as a director,
1384
01:09:16,570 --> 01:09:17,946
that was a, a great gift, you know.
1385
01:09:18,029 --> 01:09:19,573
He really didn't allow me
to make a mistake.
1386
01:09:19,656 --> 01:09:21,324
He wrote characters for him.
1387
01:09:21,408 --> 01:09:24,661
Uncle Buck... it was written for John.
1388
01:09:24,744 --> 01:09:26,913
I mean, that's quite a statement of a,
1389
01:09:26,997 --> 01:09:32,502
a director of John Hughes's talent and
writing talent... make a movie for you.
1390
01:09:32,586 --> 01:09:33,879
Hey, how you doing?
1391
01:09:33,962 --> 01:09:34,963
Who are you?
1392
01:09:35,547 --> 01:09:36,715
I'm your Uncle Buck.
1393
01:09:36,798 --> 01:09:37,883
How about this?
1394
01:09:37,966 --> 01:09:41,052
When John Candy passed away,
he was 43 years old.
1395
01:09:41,636 --> 01:09:43,430
I am 44 years old.
1396
01:09:43,513 --> 01:09:48,226
I am seven years older today
than he was when we shot Uncle Buck.
1397
01:09:48,310 --> 01:09:50,896
So there's your Mac fact of the day
that makes you feel old.
1398
01:09:56,318 --> 01:09:58,737
I think it was very easy to draw parallels
1399
01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:02,073
between John Candy in the real world
and Uncle Buck.
1400
01:10:02,157 --> 01:10:05,410
I think that's why that's one
of my favorite performances, is because
1401
01:10:05,493 --> 01:10:07,078
I think he put a lot of himself into it.
1402
01:10:08,163 --> 01:10:10,999
The whole attitude in acting
with the two kids in the movie
1403
01:10:11,082 --> 01:10:13,460
was based on my relationship
with Jennifer and Christopher
1404
01:10:13,543 --> 01:10:15,545
and how I would deal with them.
1405
01:10:15,629 --> 01:10:18,340
The one thing I never did,
I never talked down to them at all,
1406
01:10:18,423 --> 01:10:21,009
and in the movie Uncle Buck
doesn't talk down to these kids.
1407
01:10:21,092 --> 01:10:22,594
I think that's why they like him.
1408
01:10:22,677 --> 01:10:24,429
They... you know,
he treats them as an equal,
1409
01:10:24,512 --> 01:10:26,806
and they're given that respect
and that self-esteem.
1410
01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:29,100
♪ Sits down next to you
and starts talkin', say ♪
1411
01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:33,563
A lot of people don't know how
or don't like to work with kids.
1412
01:10:33,647 --> 01:10:34,689
That was a big thing.
1413
01:10:34,773 --> 01:10:37,901
Uh, believe me, as an adult, uh,
kids are tricky to work with, you know,
1414
01:10:37,984 --> 01:10:40,236
and John was always really, really kind
1415
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,698
and really good with us, you know,
and he showed, like, a lot of respect.
1416
01:10:43,782 --> 01:10:46,117
When you're eight years old,
you don't really get respect,
1417
01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:50,121
whether it's in a workplace or just
from-from adults and grown-ups in general.
1418
01:10:50,205 --> 01:10:51,748
You felt invited in.
1419
01:10:51,831 --> 01:10:54,793
Even just doing, like,
the interrogation scene,
1420
01:10:54,876 --> 01:10:56,503
I don't think he expected me to be
1421
01:10:56,586 --> 01:10:58,421
that snappy, and so he's like, "Oh.
1422
01:10:58,505 --> 01:11:00,173
Oh, no, now I have to keep up
with the eight-year-old."
1423
01:11:00,256 --> 01:11:01,675
And, you know, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom.
1424
01:11:01,758 --> 01:11:03,218
- Where do you live?
- In the city.
1425
01:11:03,301 --> 01:11:04,427
- Do you have a house?
- Apartment.
1426
01:11:04,511 --> 01:11:05,595
- Own or rent?
- Rent.
1427
01:11:05,679 --> 01:11:07,430
- What do you do for a living?
- Lots of things.
1428
01:11:07,514 --> 01:11:08,974
- Where's your office?
- I don't have one.
1429
01:11:09,057 --> 01:11:10,266
- How come?
- I don't need one.
1430
01:11:10,350 --> 01:11:11,559
- Where's your wife?
- Don't have one.
1431
01:11:11,643 --> 01:11:13,061
- How come?
- It's a long story.
1432
01:11:13,144 --> 01:11:14,312
- Do you have kids?
- No, I don't.
1433
01:11:14,396 --> 01:11:16,272
- How come?
- It's an even longer story.
1434
01:11:16,356 --> 01:11:17,315
Are you my dad's brother?
1435
01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:19,067
What's your record
for consecutive questions asked?
1436
01:11:19,150 --> 01:11:20,235
Thirty-eight.
1437
01:11:21,486 --> 01:11:26,157
I see a bad egg when I look at your niece.
1438
01:11:26,866 --> 01:11:31,579
She is a twiddler, a dreamer,
a silly heart.
1439
01:11:31,663 --> 01:11:37,460
And frankly, I don't think
she takes a thing in her life
1440
01:11:37,544 --> 01:11:41,047
or her career as a student seriously.
1441
01:11:41,131 --> 01:11:43,591
In each movie you would find
1442
01:11:43,675 --> 01:11:46,136
a different character,
a different side of John.
1443
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:47,971
She's only six.
1444
01:11:48,054 --> 01:11:49,639
Saw something of his
1445
01:11:49,723 --> 01:11:52,392
view of the world, his humanity.
1446
01:11:52,475 --> 01:11:53,977
I don't think I want to know
a six-year-old
1447
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:56,021
who isn't a dreamer or a silly heart,
1448
01:11:56,104 --> 01:12:00,358
and I sure don't want to know one
who takes their student career seriously.
1449
01:12:00,442 --> 01:12:03,111
I don't have a college degree.
1450
01:12:03,194 --> 01:12:04,362
I don't even have a job.
1451
01:12:06,281 --> 01:12:08,575
But I know a good kid
when I see one.
1452
01:12:08,658 --> 01:12:10,493
Because they're all good kids.
1453
01:12:10,577 --> 01:12:13,705
♪ I was strollin' through the jungle
one day ♪
1454
01:12:13,788 --> 01:12:15,081
♪ Met a girl, and the voice...
1455
01:12:15,165 --> 01:12:17,167
Paternal,
I think, is the right word.
1456
01:12:17,250 --> 01:12:20,295
I think he always had
that really great instinct.
1457
01:12:20,378 --> 01:12:23,506
But also, you know, I think he saw,
like... listen, I, uh...
1458
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:26,301
Even before the wave crested
1459
01:12:26,384 --> 01:12:30,055
and the Home Alone stuff was happening,
it was not hard
1460
01:12:30,138 --> 01:12:33,475
to see, uh, how difficult,
like, my father was.
1461
01:12:33,558 --> 01:12:34,601
You know, it-it was no secret.
1462
01:12:34,684 --> 01:12:37,062
He was, he was already a monster
even bef...
1463
01:12:37,145 --> 01:12:39,064
And then, all of a sudden,
the fame and the money came,
1464
01:12:39,147 --> 01:12:41,733
and then he bec... then he became a,
an infamous monster,
1465
01:12:41,816 --> 01:12:44,778
but he was, you know,
he was already not a good guy.
1466
01:12:46,696 --> 01:12:49,282
And so I think John was kind of looking
a little side-eyed
1467
01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,409
over to, like, just like,
"Is everything all right over there?"
1468
01:12:51,493 --> 01:12:53,495
You know, so he's like, "You doing good?
1469
01:12:53,578 --> 01:12:54,871
Good day? Like, everything's all right?
1470
01:12:54,954 --> 01:12:56,372
Everything good at home? All right."
1471
01:12:56,456 --> 01:12:57,457
{\an8}What do you do?
1472
01:12:57,540 --> 01:12:59,250
{\an8}Wait, um, where do you live?
1473
01:12:59,334 --> 01:13:00,335
{\an8}In the city.
1474
01:13:00,418 --> 01:13:01,795
{\an8}What do you do?
1475
01:13:01,878 --> 01:13:03,797
And that's a testament
to the kind of man he was.
1476
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,174
♪ It'll make you cry...
1477
01:13:06,257 --> 01:13:08,343
I think he was just looking out
for the kid,
1478
01:13:08,426 --> 01:13:11,638
which I appreciate
'cause that doesn't happen that often.
1479
01:13:11,721 --> 01:13:13,932
It actually happened even less
as time went on, too.
1480
01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:15,391
Because, like,
"Of course he's doing good."
1481
01:13:15,475 --> 01:13:17,852
"Yeah, he's... he's,
he's a movie star, you know,
1482
01:13:17,936 --> 01:13:19,646
he's making money and this and that."
1483
01:13:19,729 --> 01:13:22,816
It's like,
"Yeah, but, like, how you doing?"
1484
01:13:22,899 --> 01:13:27,278
And it's like that-that-that's the thing
that kind of is a, is a wonderful dagger.
1485
01:13:27,362 --> 01:13:29,989
Just like, "Ah," like, you know,
like, just like, you know,
1486
01:13:30,073 --> 01:13:32,492
I wish I got more of that,
you know, like, in my life.
1487
01:13:32,575 --> 01:13:34,661
And so that's why it's important
when-when, you know...
1488
01:13:34,744 --> 01:13:36,412
Like, I-I remember that.
1489
01:13:36,496 --> 01:13:43,002
You know, I remember John caring, and,
uh, not... when not a lot of people did.
1490
01:13:47,549 --> 01:13:51,594
Uncle Buck was
a perfect Candy script for me to direct
1491
01:13:51,678 --> 01:13:53,847
because he put himself into it.
1492
01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:56,391
When he got in the car...
There's a scene where he gets in the car,
1493
01:13:56,474 --> 01:13:58,560
he's gonna take the kids to the racetrack,
and he knows it's wrong.
1494
01:13:59,352 --> 01:14:01,354
He's in the car
and he looks in the rearview mirror
1495
01:14:01,437 --> 01:14:02,605
and he sees these two sweet little kids
1496
01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:04,482
that he's going to take to the track
1497
01:14:04,566 --> 01:14:08,778
while he meets his, his gangster buddies
and they bet, and he can't do it,
1498
01:14:08,862 --> 01:14:10,780
and I know when he was doing that scene
1499
01:14:10,864 --> 01:14:13,366
that when he looked in the mirror,
1500
01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:15,285
you know, he wasn't looking
at two little actors.
1501
01:14:15,368 --> 01:14:17,245
He was talking to two real kids.
1502
01:14:17,328 --> 01:14:19,747
I mean, that was him,
that was him, the father.
1503
01:14:24,043 --> 01:14:29,507
My agent said, "I've heard of this script
Planes, Trains & Automobiles.
1504
01:14:29,591 --> 01:14:31,092
I'm watching it for you."
1505
01:14:31,926 --> 01:14:33,178
John and I were cast.
1506
01:14:33,261 --> 01:14:35,513
We didn't really know each other at all.
1507
01:14:35,597 --> 01:14:38,016
I'm thinking we'd better spend
some time together.
1508
01:14:38,099 --> 01:14:40,727
We're gonna be doing this movie.
1509
01:14:41,311 --> 01:14:46,024
I was starting to mature as an actor,
and John was there,
1510
01:14:46,107 --> 01:14:47,650
and so, in these scenes
1511
01:14:47,734 --> 01:14:49,736
we were able to connect.
1512
01:14:50,904 --> 01:14:53,323
My character was written uptight.
1513
01:14:55,825 --> 01:14:58,620
I was very lucky.
All I had to do was be annoyed.
1514
01:14:58,703 --> 01:15:02,498
He just knew exactly how to play annoying.
1515
01:15:02,582 --> 01:15:04,584
Oh.
1516
01:15:04,667 --> 01:15:05,960
Oh, that feels good.
1517
01:15:06,044 --> 01:15:08,254
Oh, God, I'm telling you.
1518
01:15:08,338 --> 01:15:10,215
My dogs are barking today.
1519
01:15:10,798 --> 01:15:12,467
Whew.
1520
01:15:14,344 --> 01:15:15,970
Oh.
1521
01:15:18,598 --> 01:15:19,724
That feels better.
1522
01:15:19,807 --> 01:15:24,687
Showing me his curtain rings
and smoking in the car.
1523
01:15:24,771 --> 01:15:26,231
Big laughs.
1524
01:15:26,314 --> 01:15:28,066
I mean, his own laugh.
1525
01:15:29,734 --> 01:15:30,735
Wow.
1526
01:15:31,778 --> 01:15:33,655
Still a million bucks shy
of being a millionaire.
1527
01:15:36,741 --> 01:15:39,661
And John was
the perfect person to play it.
1528
01:15:40,161 --> 01:15:43,164
He's so tender in the movie.
1529
01:15:43,248 --> 01:15:45,250
There's a scene where I berate him.
1530
01:15:45,333 --> 01:15:46,626
You're no saint.
1531
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:49,504
You got a free cab, you got a free room
1532
01:15:49,587 --> 01:15:52,048
and someone who'll listen
to your boring stories.
1533
01:15:52,131 --> 01:15:54,884
I mean, didn't you, didn't you notice
on the plane, when you started talking,
1534
01:15:54,968 --> 01:15:57,637
eventually I started reading
the vomit bag?
1535
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,806
When Steve Martin's character
lays into him,
1536
01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:03,434
like, says the worst things anyone
would ever want to hear in their lives.
1537
01:16:03,518 --> 01:16:08,940
You choose things that are, that are
funny or-or mildly amusing or interesting.
1538
01:16:09,023 --> 01:16:10,149
You're a miracle.
1539
01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:12,277
Your stories have none of that.
1540
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,653
And then it keeps going.
1541
01:16:13,736 --> 01:16:15,738
They'd say, "How can you stand it?"
1542
01:16:15,822 --> 01:16:18,658
And I'd say,
"'Cause I've been with Del Griffith.
1543
01:16:18,741 --> 01:16:20,243
I can take anything."
1544
01:16:20,326 --> 01:16:22,620
And then he keeps going,
and then he keeps going,
1545
01:16:22,704 --> 01:16:24,455
and cutting to John's face,
1546
01:16:24,539 --> 01:16:25,581
listening.
1547
01:16:25,665 --> 01:16:27,083
It's like going on a date
1548
01:16:27,166 --> 01:16:29,627
with a Chatty Cathy doll.
1549
01:16:29,711 --> 01:16:31,796
I expect you to have a little string
on your chest, you know,
1550
01:16:31,879 --> 01:16:34,257
that I pull out and have to snap back.
1551
01:16:34,340 --> 01:16:36,342
Except I wouldn't pull it out
and snap it back. You would.
1552
01:16:36,426 --> 01:16:38,261
"Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah!"
1553
01:16:38,344 --> 01:16:42,890
His facial response
in that scene told a huge story.
1554
01:16:42,974 --> 01:16:44,684
And I always feel bad, you know.
1555
01:16:44,767 --> 01:16:47,729
I say, "Well, we are just pretending,
you know."
1556
01:16:49,063 --> 01:16:52,066
But he acted so hurt.
1557
01:16:53,401 --> 01:16:54,569
This is not a comedian.
1558
01:16:54,652 --> 01:16:55,653
This is a guy
1559
01:16:55,737 --> 01:16:58,823
who is much more complex than
1560
01:16:58,906 --> 01:17:00,658
what a lot of people would think.
1561
01:17:02,035 --> 01:17:03,870
You want to hurt me?
1562
01:17:03,953 --> 01:17:06,998
Go right ahead
if it makes you feel any better.
1563
01:17:07,081 --> 01:17:08,583
I'm an easy target.
1564
01:17:11,002 --> 01:17:12,754
Yeah, you're right.
1565
01:17:12,837 --> 01:17:14,422
I talk too much.
1566
01:17:15,256 --> 01:17:17,091
I also listen too much.
1567
01:17:18,301 --> 01:17:20,762
I could be a coldhearted cynic like you.
1568
01:17:22,638 --> 01:17:24,432
But I don't like to hurt
people's feelings.
1569
01:17:25,933 --> 01:17:27,852
Well, you think what you want about me.
1570
01:17:27,935 --> 01:17:29,312
I'm not changing.
1571
01:17:29,395 --> 01:17:32,190
I like, I like me.
1572
01:17:32,273 --> 01:17:34,025
My wife likes me.
1573
01:17:34,108 --> 01:17:36,903
"I like me," you know? I...
1574
01:17:37,487 --> 01:17:39,989
"My wife likes me," you know?
1575
01:17:40,073 --> 01:17:41,240
"Just know
1576
01:17:41,324 --> 01:17:43,451
I have people who love me, and I do..."
1577
01:17:45,828 --> 01:17:49,916
My customers like me...
'cause I'm the real article.
1578
01:17:49,999 --> 01:17:51,542
What you see is what you get.
1579
01:17:52,627 --> 01:17:55,671
People always talk
about that moment.
1580
01:17:55,755 --> 01:17:58,716
Twenty years later, they,
they always talk about that moment.
1581
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,553
I compare John to someone
like Charlie Chaplin,
1582
01:18:02,637 --> 01:18:04,389
particularly a movie called City Lights.
1583
01:18:04,472 --> 01:18:06,724
If you see the final shot
1584
01:18:06,808 --> 01:18:12,522
of City Lights, where Chaplin realizes
that the blind girl can actually see,
1585
01:18:12,605 --> 01:18:15,149
Chaplin's acting elevates that moment
1586
01:18:15,233 --> 01:18:18,986
to a level of true complex emotion,
1587
01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:22,115
and I realized that when I saw John
in Planes, Trains & Automobiles,
1588
01:18:22,198 --> 01:18:24,242
he had that same thing.
1589
01:18:26,994 --> 01:18:28,413
I don't have a home.
1590
01:18:35,420 --> 01:18:37,755
Marie's been dead for eight years.
1591
01:18:42,176 --> 01:18:43,594
And it was then that I started
1592
01:18:43,678 --> 01:18:46,764
sort of this fascination
with wanting to work with John.
1593
01:18:46,848 --> 01:18:49,600
I am trying to get home
to my eight-year-old son.
1594
01:18:50,184 --> 01:18:52,437
And now that I'm this close,
you're telling me it's hopeless?
1595
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,771
So, the Shmenge brothers,
1596
01:18:53,855 --> 01:18:57,483
to me, were the original inspiration
for Gus Polinski.
1597
01:18:57,567 --> 01:18:58,568
What?
1598
01:18:58,651 --> 01:19:01,112
Excuse me.
Can you excuse us for a sec?
1599
01:19:01,195 --> 01:19:03,322
John Hughes and I talked
about John Candy,
1600
01:19:03,406 --> 01:19:07,118
and I said it would be a dream come true
to get John to do this role.
1601
01:19:07,201 --> 01:19:10,663
And for some reason
he was only available for one day.
1602
01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:15,001
And John came in first hour and said,
"Take as much time as you need.
1603
01:19:15,084 --> 01:19:16,085
It's fine."
1604
01:19:16,169 --> 01:19:17,670
And we took 23 hours.
1605
01:19:17,753 --> 01:19:18,838
Allow me to introduce myself.
1606
01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:19,922
Gus Polinski.
1607
01:19:20,006 --> 01:19:21,299
How are you?
1608
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:24,385
Polka King of the Midwest?
1609
01:19:27,847 --> 01:19:29,390
The-the Kenosha Kickers?
1610
01:19:30,516 --> 01:19:32,185
Simple character, yet
1611
01:19:32,268 --> 01:19:35,730
he came to the set
with an intense backstory in his head.
1612
01:19:35,813 --> 01:19:36,814
I never heard about it.
1613
01:19:36,898 --> 01:19:39,859
I got to learn about it
in those 23 hours of shooting.
1614
01:19:39,942 --> 01:19:41,444
"Polka Twist."
1615
01:19:41,527 --> 01:19:43,237
These are songs?
1616
01:19:43,321 --> 01:19:47,617
Yeah, yeah, we... some fairly big hits for
us, you know, in the early '70s, you know?
1617
01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:48,826
Oh.
1618
01:19:48,910 --> 01:19:51,370
Yeah, we sold about 623 copies of that.
1619
01:19:51,454 --> 01:19:54,290
- In Chicago?
- No, Sheboygan, very big in Sheboygan.
1620
01:19:54,373 --> 01:19:56,542
- They loved it, you know.
- I'm sorry, did you say you could help me?
1621
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,296
So, in this small stage,
they had the van,
1622
01:20:00,379 --> 01:20:03,466
and John just kept coming up with ideas
and John Hughes kept coming up
1623
01:20:03,549 --> 01:20:04,634
with ideas.
1624
01:20:07,970 --> 01:20:09,972
Do I smell of rat?
1625
01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:13,267
I don't think I know that smell.
1626
01:20:13,351 --> 01:20:15,811
It's a very foul smell.
1627
01:20:15,895 --> 01:20:18,189
Uh, I was at a...
1628
01:20:18,272 --> 01:20:22,151
this, uh, pierogi fest
that we were at, you know...
1629
01:20:22,235 --> 01:20:24,237
Apparently, down in the dressing room
we were at there...
1630
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,281
Uh, we walked in, we...
woof, we almost keeled over, you know.
1631
01:20:27,365 --> 01:20:29,492
We asked the-the-the priest there
what it was,
1632
01:20:29,575 --> 01:20:33,287
and he said that a rat got into the wall
and died about a month before,
1633
01:20:33,371 --> 01:20:36,999
and it was rotting,
and, uh, you know, I...
1634
01:20:37,083 --> 01:20:39,335
- Is this what a rat smells like?
- Can you smell it?
1635
01:20:39,418 --> 01:20:40,920
It's just 'cause I hung my coat
1636
01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:42,922
- probably right on the wall there.
- Oh...
1637
01:20:43,005 --> 01:20:44,674
Why'd you make me smell that?
1638
01:20:44,757 --> 01:20:48,511
Well, yeah, I-I dipped it in Old Spice,
you know, I got the Old Spice all over it,
1639
01:20:48,594 --> 01:20:54,392
and now I got a real...
mess of smells coming out of here.
1640
01:20:54,475 --> 01:20:56,727
- Sorry.
- That's okay.
1641
01:20:56,811 --> 01:20:59,063
If you watch the movie,
there's very little of...
1642
01:20:59,146 --> 01:21:00,982
my improv in it.
1643
01:21:01,065 --> 01:21:03,609
But John was so fun.
1644
01:21:03,693 --> 01:21:06,153
This is really star power stuff,
1645
01:21:06,237 --> 01:21:08,030
and that's who John Candy was,
1646
01:21:08,114 --> 01:21:12,618
and that's who the, the mass audience
who were watching these movies,
1647
01:21:12,702 --> 01:21:16,622
that's what they were getting, and they
were falling in love with John Candy.
1648
01:21:18,499 --> 01:21:21,085
You know,
you've articulated this better
1649
01:21:21,168 --> 01:21:24,630
and in a more interesting way
than anyone I've ever talked to,
1650
01:21:24,714 --> 01:21:27,967
John, because not only
do you have to be a creative person,
1651
01:21:28,050 --> 01:21:29,510
but you have to be a businessman--
1652
01:21:29,594 --> 01:21:32,930
These days, if-if you're not,
if you're not, then forget it.
1653
01:21:33,014 --> 01:21:38,436
If you're just an actor these days...
chances are you're not gonna make it.
1654
01:21:38,519 --> 01:21:41,063
If you're just a writer,
chances are you're not gonna make it.
1655
01:21:41,147 --> 01:21:43,524
As good as you are,
as brilliant as you are.
1656
01:21:43,608 --> 01:21:45,276
It's gonna take longer.
1657
01:21:52,658 --> 01:21:56,037
{\an8}So he was
at the top of his career,
1658
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,122
{\an8}and then, all of a sudden,
this opportunity came up
1659
01:21:58,205 --> 01:22:03,377
{\an8}where he could buy the Toronto Argonauts
with Wayne Gretzky and Bruce McNall.
1660
01:22:03,961 --> 01:22:06,380
It was like a lifelong
1661
01:22:06,464 --> 01:22:07,715
dream realized.
1662
01:22:08,507 --> 01:22:12,970
It's a football team in Toronto,
uh, part of the Canadian Football League.
1663
01:22:13,471 --> 01:22:15,765
Canadian Football League
is ideal for certain markets
1664
01:22:15,848 --> 01:22:17,433
that aren't going to get an NFL team,
1665
01:22:17,516 --> 01:22:19,352
and it's a very exciting brand
of football.
1666
01:22:19,435 --> 01:22:21,228
What am I...?
I'm promoting this, Dick, I'm sorry.
1667
01:22:21,312 --> 01:22:22,396
That's all right, there'll be no trouble
1668
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:23,481
- finding people to--
- And I'll be flashing
1669
01:22:23,564 --> 01:22:25,650
season ticket numbers
on the bottom of the screen here.
1670
01:22:25,733 --> 01:22:26,734
Good seats still available,
1671
01:22:26,817 --> 01:22:27,818
- folks, please.
- No problem.
1672
01:22:27,902 --> 01:22:29,403
Come on down to the SkyDome.
1673
01:22:29,487 --> 01:22:30,946
{\an8}He was signing autographs,
1674
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:33,908
{\an8}and I just went up and introduced myself
and told him,
1675
01:22:33,991 --> 01:22:36,118
{\an8}"I'm Kelvin Pruenster,
I'm your right tackle."
1676
01:22:36,202 --> 01:22:37,995
And he just looked at me, said, "Oh,
1677
01:22:38,079 --> 01:22:39,080
I know who you are.
1678
01:22:39,163 --> 01:22:40,247
You don't have to introduce yourself."
1679
01:22:40,831 --> 01:22:43,209
John was like part of the team.
1680
01:22:43,292 --> 01:22:46,337
Instead of off to the side with everybody,
he was on the bench,
1681
01:22:46,420 --> 01:22:48,464
and there's occasions
where he ran out on the field
1682
01:22:48,547 --> 01:22:50,633
to help injured players off the field.
1683
01:22:50,716 --> 01:22:52,968
The rest
of the Argonaut ownership entourage
1684
01:22:53,052 --> 01:22:56,347
is in the warmth of the booth,
but John Candy's decided to brave it
1685
01:22:56,430 --> 01:22:57,807
- in the great outdoors.
- I'm braving it out here.
1686
01:22:57,890 --> 01:22:59,809
You're darn right, Scott,
we're braving it out here.
1687
01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:04,397
{\an8}John worked
his ass off that year
1688
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:07,441
{\an8}to bring it back to life here in Toronto,
1689
01:23:07,525 --> 01:23:09,360
{\an8}bringing the shows,
the halftime shows he got.
1690
01:23:09,443 --> 01:23:11,946
He had the Blues Brothers here
the first opening night.
1691
01:23:14,073 --> 01:23:18,202
He stepped into it
with everything.
1692
01:23:18,285 --> 01:23:19,870
You're the guy who owns the hockey team.
1693
01:23:19,954 --> 01:23:21,580
No, it's a football team.
1694
01:23:21,664 --> 01:23:24,709
♪ Our home and native...
1695
01:23:24,792 --> 01:23:27,336
The Argonauts got
into the Grey Cup,
1696
01:23:27,420 --> 01:23:29,338
which is Canada's Super Bowl,
1697
01:23:29,422 --> 01:23:31,799
and so John organized
that we would all fly
1698
01:23:31,882 --> 01:23:38,055
to the Grey Cup that morning
on the Bruce McNall L.A. Kings plane.
1699
01:23:40,057 --> 01:23:42,768
They waited for him to arrive
and come out of the tunnel,
1700
01:23:42,852 --> 01:23:43,894
and you could just hear
1701
01:23:43,978 --> 01:23:45,521
the crowd noise start to rise.
1702
01:23:49,483 --> 01:23:51,736
There's 50,000 people there.
1703
01:23:51,819 --> 01:23:56,699
"And ladies and gentlemen, Bruce McNall,
Wayne Gretzky, and John Candy."
1704
01:23:56,782 --> 01:23:59,744
And the crowd went nuts.
1705
01:24:01,537 --> 01:24:05,166
Danny looked at it,
and he said, "Look at him.
1706
01:24:05,249 --> 01:24:07,084
He's Johnny Toronto."
1707
01:24:07,918 --> 01:24:13,340
He became the guy that he thought he
would be and that we all teased him about.
1708
01:24:18,345 --> 01:24:20,598
Everything before was
you were on sets,
1709
01:24:20,681 --> 01:24:23,100
you were in the film,
you were with your crew.
1710
01:24:23,684 --> 01:24:28,481
And then, all of a sudden,
it kind of jumped to a different level.
1711
01:24:33,694 --> 01:24:35,529
Everything was heightened.
1712
01:24:35,613 --> 01:24:36,864
To the outside!
1713
01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:39,283
There were more people,
more events.
1714
01:24:39,366 --> 01:24:42,328
Makes the sack,
as Will Johnson force...
1715
01:24:48,042 --> 01:24:51,962
As we got to know each other,
I think he just trusted me more and more,
1716
01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:56,050
that I was somebody he could talk to and
he was never going to be let down by me.
1717
01:24:58,594 --> 01:25:00,596
He started to share a lot about his
1718
01:25:00,679 --> 01:25:02,097
worries about the movie industry.
1719
01:25:02,181 --> 01:25:03,182
He'd been,
1720
01:25:03,265 --> 01:25:04,850
you know, focused on the football team,
1721
01:25:04,934 --> 01:25:07,686
and I think there was
no projects going on.
1722
01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:10,981
But there were movies
on the table for him,
1723
01:25:11,065 --> 01:25:13,943
and he would always say to me,
"There's no work."
1724
01:25:14,527 --> 01:25:16,821
"Will they like me?
Will they hire me?
1725
01:25:16,904 --> 01:25:18,989
Will I ever get another job?"
1726
01:25:19,573 --> 01:25:24,245
John, in his insecurity,
was coming through all the time.
1727
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:30,960
I grew up with someone
who was already a successful actor,
1728
01:25:31,043 --> 01:25:33,170
who had made it.
1729
01:25:33,254 --> 01:25:35,214
The thing that was so big
and such a big secret
1730
01:25:35,297 --> 01:25:37,049
was that he didn't believe in himself.
1731
01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:40,511
How fucking human is that?
1732
01:25:41,095 --> 01:25:43,597
So we talked a lot
about his psychological health
1733
01:25:43,681 --> 01:25:45,307
and the pressures that he had and
1734
01:25:45,391 --> 01:25:48,185
was trying to learn
what caused that in his life.
1735
01:25:48,269 --> 01:25:51,438
Why now? Why did it start in '91?
1736
01:25:51,522 --> 01:25:52,523
I think that's when it started.
1737
01:25:53,107 --> 01:25:58,445
So he had this aggressive
work ethic to get things set up.
1738
01:25:58,529 --> 01:26:01,782
I'd made winning my whole life,
and when you make winning
1739
01:26:01,866 --> 01:26:03,158
your whole life...
1740
01:26:04,243 --> 01:26:05,744
...you have to keep on winning.
1741
01:26:06,912 --> 01:26:09,206
You get caught up
in this perpetual motion machine
1742
01:26:09,290 --> 01:26:10,624
when it comes to Hollywood.
1743
01:26:10,708 --> 01:26:12,459
- We're out of time!
- And so
1744
01:26:12,543 --> 01:26:14,253
they kind of put you in this hamster wheel
1745
01:26:14,336 --> 01:26:16,255
that you're kind of just constantly having
to roll around
1746
01:26:16,338 --> 01:26:17,715
and keep going and keep going.
1747
01:26:17,798 --> 01:26:19,508
{\an8}And you start feeling the pressure,
1748
01:26:19,592 --> 01:26:23,429
{\an8}especially if you're starting to juggle
more than one thing at a time.
1749
01:26:23,512 --> 01:26:27,099
Like, you could be on the red carpet
with an Oscar in your hand,
1750
01:26:27,182 --> 01:26:30,019
and, you know, you-you're at the top
of your game,
1751
01:26:30,102 --> 01:26:33,314
and the first question they're gonna
ask you is, "What are you doing next?"
1752
01:26:33,397 --> 01:26:36,108
If I give you the name
of the big enchilada, you know...
1753
01:26:37,651 --> 01:26:39,028
...then it's bon voyage, Deano.
1754
01:26:39,111 --> 01:26:40,279
I mean, like permanent.
1755
01:26:40,362 --> 01:26:43,115
I mean, like a bullet in my head, you dig?
1756
01:26:43,198 --> 01:26:45,451
You're a mouse fighting a gorilla.
1757
01:26:48,203 --> 01:26:50,164
You stick around
in Hollywood long enough,
1758
01:26:50,247 --> 01:26:52,291
everyone either goes crazy
or turns into an asshole
1759
01:26:52,374 --> 01:26:53,667
or they end up dead.
1760
01:26:58,172 --> 01:27:00,174
{\an8}We were all
a little worried about John,
1761
01:27:00,257 --> 01:27:01,800
{\an8}health-wise.
1762
01:27:02,384 --> 01:27:05,554
Oh, I mean, it was just in the air.
1763
01:27:05,638 --> 01:27:08,724
He was just big, living large,
1764
01:27:08,807 --> 01:27:11,018
and we kind of worried about that for him.
1765
01:27:11,101 --> 01:27:12,770
One friend that he had
1766
01:27:12,853 --> 01:27:16,231
had written him a letter
telling him that he was
1767
01:27:16,315 --> 01:27:18,776
concerned about his weight.
1768
01:27:18,859 --> 01:27:22,655
John took his name out of his Rolodex.
1769
01:27:22,738 --> 01:27:25,115
In other words, that's it for that guy.
1770
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:27,868
I remember John going
through doctors like cigarettes.
1771
01:27:27,952 --> 01:27:30,204
You know, he'd get a doctor,
and the doctor would tell him,
1772
01:27:30,287 --> 01:27:32,081
"You got to lose weight,
you got to stop drinking."
1773
01:27:32,164 --> 01:27:35,334
John didn't want to hear that shit.
1774
01:27:35,417 --> 01:27:37,211
Does anybody
ever pressure you about your weight
1775
01:27:37,294 --> 01:27:38,921
and say, "Why don't you slim down?"
1776
01:27:39,004 --> 01:27:40,089
Or-or do you ever...?
1777
01:27:40,172 --> 01:27:42,257
- Is it a concern of yours at all?
- No, no, not really.
1778
01:27:42,341 --> 01:27:44,593
I think it bothers other people
more than it does me.
1779
01:27:44,677 --> 01:27:46,762
- Yeah.
- You know?
1780
01:27:46,845 --> 01:27:49,181
But, uh, does it bother you?
1781
01:27:49,264 --> 01:27:51,183
- It doesn't bother me at all.
- Oh, good, because I was wondering.
1782
01:27:51,266 --> 01:27:53,435
You brought it up,
so I was wondering if it bothered you.
1783
01:27:53,519 --> 01:27:56,563
As it kept moving along,
the heart, it's stressed.
1784
01:27:57,147 --> 01:28:00,109
I worried about it
'cause I would always go buy him clothes.
1785
01:28:00,192 --> 01:28:02,194
And every time I'd go, I'd go, "Okay,
1786
01:28:02,277 --> 01:28:03,362
this is a double X."
1787
01:28:03,445 --> 01:28:06,490
Then we went to a 3X,
then we went to a 5X.
1788
01:28:06,573 --> 01:28:08,617
And I went, "Okay, this is tough.
1789
01:28:08,701 --> 01:28:11,704
John, you know, this is not good."
1790
01:28:11,787 --> 01:28:13,622
And further over here.
1791
01:28:14,957 --> 01:28:16,750
{\an8}I remember at that time
1792
01:28:16,834 --> 01:28:19,503
{\an8}he was gonna direct his first film,
1793
01:28:19,586 --> 01:28:22,423
{\an8}and it was called Hostage for a Day.
1794
01:28:22,506 --> 01:28:23,966
- A fly right there.
- All right.
1795
01:28:24,049 --> 01:28:26,176
Uh, you-you take it and then adjust it.
1796
01:28:26,260 --> 01:28:28,887
What I remember vividly is
this one night shoot,
1797
01:28:28,971 --> 01:28:30,014
he said, "Come into the trailer.
1798
01:28:30,097 --> 01:28:31,265
We're gonna rewrite that scene."
1799
01:28:31,348 --> 01:28:32,516
And it was like, "What?
1800
01:28:32,599 --> 01:28:34,268
Wow, we're gonna rewrite it? All right."
1801
01:28:34,351 --> 01:28:35,352
So now we're in
1802
01:28:35,436 --> 01:28:37,688
the Winnebago,
and we got the script out and we're,
1803
01:28:37,771 --> 01:28:39,940
we're doing this whole scene different.
1804
01:28:40,024 --> 01:28:42,109
And it's like,
"Wow, but, John, you know, there's like,
1805
01:28:42,192 --> 01:28:43,527
there's other people
that are coming into this cast.
1806
01:28:43,610 --> 01:28:44,611
We're just going to kind of throw..."
1807
01:28:44,695 --> 01:28:45,738
"They'll be fine, they'll be fine."
1808
01:28:45,821 --> 01:28:47,364
- Action.
- But with John it's like
1809
01:28:47,448 --> 01:28:49,074
I want to do so well for him.
1810
01:28:49,158 --> 01:28:52,244
I want to make this so great for him
'cause he's loving it, and I knew
1811
01:28:52,327 --> 01:28:55,372
how invested he was from the rewrites,
and he did that with all the scenes.
1812
01:28:57,541 --> 01:29:01,378
I think the weight of everything
he was doing was just too much,
1813
01:29:01,462 --> 01:29:04,131
and he had a family and he had kids.
1814
01:29:04,214 --> 01:29:07,426
He felt so bad leaving his kids alone,
being on a movie set.
1815
01:29:07,509 --> 01:29:08,802
He struggled with that.
1816
01:29:08,886 --> 01:29:10,512
- Hi, Daddy.
- Hi.
1817
01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:14,475
You've been in so many
successful films and a few turkeys.
1818
01:29:14,558 --> 01:29:17,269
Yeah, I've had
a number of critics go after me,
1819
01:29:17,352 --> 01:29:19,146
{\an8}which is fair game, I mean, you know.
1820
01:29:19,229 --> 01:29:21,148
{\an8}For what, for example?
1821
01:29:21,231 --> 01:29:23,442
{\an8}Well, usually poor choice in material.
1822
01:29:23,525 --> 01:29:25,819
- Yeah.
- Or "Here he is again, too many films."
1823
01:29:25,903 --> 01:29:30,157
Because he had already had
this kind of big success,
1824
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,451
he was trying to, like, drag people along,
but you can't,
1825
01:29:32,534 --> 01:29:35,746
you can't really drag people that easily.
1826
01:29:35,829 --> 01:29:37,289
You know, you think you're doing favors.
1827
01:29:37,372 --> 01:29:39,416
You can't really do favors for people.
1828
01:29:39,500 --> 01:29:40,501
It's a funny thing.
1829
01:29:41,085 --> 01:29:43,670
I did go through a period there,
I was doing a lot of favors.
1830
01:29:44,421 --> 01:29:46,548
"Sure, I'll do that."
"Well, could you just...?" "Sure."
1831
01:29:47,132 --> 01:29:49,384
Without thinking
or leading with your heart.
1832
01:29:49,468 --> 01:29:51,220
I did it out of loyalty
1833
01:29:51,303 --> 01:29:52,846
and out of, uh, friendship.
1834
01:29:52,930 --> 01:29:55,432
Well, you know
that you've been in more turkeys
1835
01:29:55,516 --> 01:29:56,517
than a stuffing mix.
1836
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,185
Oh, geez.
1837
01:29:58,268 --> 01:29:59,311
- Had you seen that?
- No.
1838
01:29:59,394 --> 01:30:00,813
- Except the-the corollar--
- I'm depressed now.
1839
01:30:00,896 --> 01:30:04,733
No, the corollary to that is
"yet everyone seems to love him."
1840
01:30:06,068 --> 01:30:08,779
Well, I've been in some movies
that didn't fare well.
1841
01:30:08,862 --> 01:30:10,823
I-I wouldn't, wouldn't call them turkeys.
1842
01:30:10,906 --> 01:30:12,491
So, what, you got bad judgment or...?
1843
01:30:12,991 --> 01:30:14,368
No, I-I-I-I...
1844
01:30:14,451 --> 01:30:15,994
{\an8}You end up into this
1845
01:30:16,078 --> 01:30:18,664
{\an8}commoditized version of something,
and people come to you,
1846
01:30:18,747 --> 01:30:20,624
{\an8}you know, say, "Hey, we can do this.
1847
01:30:20,707 --> 01:30:22,876
We can do this animated show."
1848
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,461
And John was the type to say,
"Hey, let's do that."
1849
01:30:24,545 --> 01:30:26,630
It's all here next on Camp Candy.
1850
01:30:26,713 --> 01:30:28,215
At Radio Kandy
starring John Candy...
1851
01:30:28,298 --> 01:30:31,802
I remember being outside
the stadium and the thousands of fans,
1852
01:30:31,885 --> 01:30:36,265
and John must have stood there
for three or four hours signing autographs
1853
01:30:36,348 --> 01:30:40,060
and then flying across the country,
supporting every other football team.
1854
01:30:40,144 --> 01:30:41,353
It's a lot of fun. Yeah, there's risk.
1855
01:30:41,436 --> 01:30:43,230
I knew those trips took
a toll on him
1856
01:30:43,313 --> 01:30:45,607
because there was...
it was no money involved, it was
1857
01:30:45,691 --> 01:30:47,484
showing up, meet and greet, you know.
1858
01:30:47,568 --> 01:30:50,195
He didn't have to do it, but he did it
because somebody asked him to do it.
1859
01:30:50,279 --> 01:30:51,321
Thank you very much.
1860
01:30:51,405 --> 01:30:55,450
For someone like John,
like I said, I just knew him for that day,
1861
01:30:55,534 --> 01:30:59,204
but I saw him give to everybody
1862
01:30:59,288 --> 01:31:03,292
and I saw him delight
1863
01:31:03,375 --> 01:31:06,295
in the glow that he was casting.
1864
01:31:06,378 --> 01:31:10,007
It made him feel good to give
that much to everybody,
1865
01:31:10,090 --> 01:31:11,466
including me.
Who-who am I?
1866
01:31:11,550 --> 01:31:13,635
I'm just some kid
that picked him up at the airport.
1867
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,848
A hazard of this business is
1868
01:31:17,931 --> 01:31:20,309
that it's very unhealthy
for people pleasers,
1869
01:31:20,392 --> 01:31:22,144
because if you're a people pleaser,
1870
01:31:22,227 --> 01:31:25,647
they'll take whatever you got
and they'll ask for more, and
1871
01:31:25,731 --> 01:31:26,732
there's no end to it.
1872
01:31:26,815 --> 01:31:28,358
It's a bottomless cup of coffee.
1873
01:31:29,943 --> 01:31:33,280
Perhaps the need to
1874
01:31:33,363 --> 01:31:39,369
take in stuff so much was
to suppress... an anxiety.
1875
01:31:40,454 --> 01:31:42,039
Anxiety.
1876
01:31:42,122 --> 01:31:43,540
What is that?
1877
01:31:44,875 --> 01:31:47,461
If you go a whole lifetime
eating your feelings,
1878
01:31:47,544 --> 01:31:50,005
drinking your feelings,
smoking your nerves,
1879
01:31:50,088 --> 01:31:53,675
it shows up... in one way or another.
1880
01:31:53,759 --> 01:31:55,344
Then it's an alarm system
1881
01:31:55,427 --> 01:31:57,846
and it's saying,
"Hey, there is something wrong here."
1882
01:31:57,930 --> 01:31:59,473
The mind was overweight.
1883
01:32:00,641 --> 01:32:04,311
Traveling in airports,
he would have panic attacks.
1884
01:32:04,394 --> 01:32:07,064
We'd get off the plane
and there'd be a mass of people.
1885
01:32:07,147 --> 01:32:08,315
He just couldn't breathe.
1886
01:32:08,398 --> 01:32:11,818
It was just like everything came inwards.
1887
01:32:11,902 --> 01:32:16,031
It was hard to see because you didn't know
1888
01:32:16,114 --> 01:32:18,951
what it was, but he would get agitated,
so you're kind of like,
1889
01:32:19,034 --> 01:32:20,410
"Okay, don't piss Dad off."
1890
01:32:20,494 --> 01:32:25,582
We were going from, for some reason, one
restaurant to another, and all of a sudden
1891
01:32:25,666 --> 01:32:27,626
John's looking around,
looking around, looking around.
1892
01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:29,294
You could tell something was wrong,
1893
01:32:29,378 --> 01:32:33,757
and he had to go sit down and,
you know, catch his breath and relax.
1894
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,884
He did...
I'm assuming he didn't really give up
1895
01:32:35,968 --> 01:32:37,344
what it was about. It was...
1896
01:32:37,427 --> 01:32:39,096
No, no.
1897
01:32:39,179 --> 01:32:41,765
And a guy like me, I would never ask.
1898
01:32:41,848 --> 01:32:45,185
Like, I don't want to know.
1899
01:32:45,269 --> 01:32:46,228
Nobody had therapists.
1900
01:32:46,311 --> 01:32:51,275
Maybe Upper East Side, New York,
you have a therapist, but not in Toronto.
1901
01:32:51,358 --> 01:32:55,320
John had such a good sense of others
and what they needed
1902
01:32:55,404 --> 01:32:58,907
and was so good
at getting outside of himself,
1903
01:32:58,991 --> 01:33:02,494
maybe as a protective thing, who knows,
but isn't it also just...
1904
01:33:02,577 --> 01:33:07,249
a healthier way to be
than being lost in your own head?
1905
01:33:08,417 --> 01:33:10,919
If he was five
when his father died,
1906
01:33:11,003 --> 01:33:13,171
and then you grow up
with a group of people
1907
01:33:13,255 --> 01:33:18,260
who do not for a second want
to even acknowledge it?
1908
01:33:19,886 --> 01:33:23,348
Well, yeah, no shit,
I'd have anxiety, too.
1909
01:33:24,433 --> 01:33:26,518
You know, there's some things
1910
01:33:26,601 --> 01:33:27,894
that are just painful.
1911
01:33:27,978 --> 01:33:30,856
That's it,
and you can't make 'em not painful.
1912
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:33,650
There's no closure for certain things.
1913
01:33:37,029 --> 01:33:39,197
John had called me and said,
"I'm going into partnership
1914
01:33:39,281 --> 01:33:43,535
with one of the most honest people
I've met in Hollywood-- Bruce McNall."
1915
01:33:45,454 --> 01:33:49,666
But eventually Bruce McNall
went to jail for bank fraud.
1916
01:33:50,667 --> 01:33:53,045
Bruce pled guilty because he is guilty.
1917
01:33:53,628 --> 01:33:55,464
Bruce was going to try
and sell the team,
1918
01:33:55,547 --> 01:33:57,966
and he was devastated
because Bruce didn't call him himself,
1919
01:33:58,050 --> 01:34:00,677
'cause Bruce had always promised,
"I'll call you directly."
1920
01:34:01,762 --> 01:34:05,974
It conjures up all those thoughts about
"This was my father, he's let me down,"
1921
01:34:06,058 --> 01:34:08,977
you know, and, um, hurt, deep hurt.
1922
01:34:09,061 --> 01:34:10,729
John was very sensitive.
1923
01:34:10,812 --> 01:34:13,774
He saw a lot, he felt a lot.
1924
01:34:15,817 --> 01:34:18,862
He started to have crippling
chronic anxiety.
1925
01:34:18,945 --> 01:34:21,239
He would have it for the whole day.
1926
01:34:21,323 --> 01:34:22,908
Y-You don't much like these interviews.
1927
01:34:22,991 --> 01:34:23,992
Are you overly comfortable with it?
1928
01:34:24,076 --> 01:34:27,287
I'm not very, as you can see,
I'm not that good at them right now.
1929
01:34:27,371 --> 01:34:28,413
I'm sort of stiff.
1930
01:34:28,497 --> 01:34:30,082
Some days worse than others,
1931
01:34:30,165 --> 01:34:31,416
it kept him from sleeping.
1932
01:34:31,500 --> 01:34:32,667
So he really suffered
1933
01:34:32,751 --> 01:34:36,046
and needed to find out what it was about
and did not want to go
1934
01:34:36,129 --> 01:34:37,464
the medication route.
1935
01:34:37,547 --> 01:34:39,758
Wanted to understand
what was happening to him.
1936
01:34:39,841 --> 01:34:42,677
Could you give us a little tour of the
dark side of the... of your personality?
1937
01:34:42,761 --> 01:34:43,762
Is there...
1938
01:34:43,845 --> 01:34:45,097
Are there things about you you don't like?
1939
01:34:45,180 --> 01:34:46,181
Is there something?
1940
01:34:46,264 --> 01:34:47,933
- No.
- Oh, this is embarrassing.
1941
01:34:48,016 --> 01:34:49,017
Shall I move on?
1942
01:34:49,101 --> 01:34:50,602
Uh... you can move on.
1943
01:34:50,685 --> 01:34:52,813
- Okay.
- Next, please.
1944
01:34:54,189 --> 01:34:56,191
He was in therapy.
1945
01:34:56,274 --> 01:34:59,403
He would share with me what he learned
about the root of anxiety
1946
01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:01,113
and what causes it.
1947
01:35:01,613 --> 01:35:04,825
People don't talk about having it, but
so many, so many people suffer from it.
1948
01:35:06,743 --> 01:35:09,538
People keep their therapy
private, or they used to at least,
1949
01:35:09,621 --> 01:35:13,083
and now a lot of people talk about it,
but I'm very honored to say
1950
01:35:13,166 --> 01:35:16,086
that my father is the reason
that I've been in treatment.
1951
01:35:16,169 --> 01:35:20,465
I've been able to work on myself
because he went into therapy.
1952
01:35:22,384 --> 01:35:25,512
You just wish for everyone
that you love
1953
01:35:25,595 --> 01:35:32,352
that they can be self-accepting
and that the black cloud can go away.
1954
01:35:48,493 --> 01:35:49,953
When I first met him,
1955
01:35:50,036 --> 01:35:52,831
of course, first you fall in love
with his talent.
1956
01:35:52,914 --> 01:35:55,375
It's such an effortless, uh, comedy.
1957
01:35:55,459 --> 01:35:58,044
It's so genuine
and it comes from such a heart.
1958
01:35:58,628 --> 01:36:02,757
Wagons East came up, and so, you know,
he-he got me involved in the, in the show,
1959
01:36:02,841 --> 01:36:07,137
which I was grateful for, and we flew
down, just he and I, to Durango.
1960
01:36:08,138 --> 01:36:10,015
He was taking care of himself then, too,
1961
01:36:10,098 --> 01:36:12,267
because he had a nutritionist
who was with him now,
1962
01:36:12,350 --> 01:36:14,436
and I thought, "Oh, that-that's great."
1963
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:17,355
I don't know why they went
so far away to Durango.
1964
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,484
It was a terribly difficult place
to shoot in.
1965
01:36:20,567 --> 01:36:23,320
People around you now are carrying,
like, machine guns
1966
01:36:23,403 --> 01:36:24,863
because they're protecting you.
1967
01:36:24,946 --> 01:36:28,492
John was layered in outfits,
and it was really hot.
1968
01:36:28,575 --> 01:36:30,368
The sand was...
it gets to you after a while.
1969
01:36:30,952 --> 01:36:34,122
Once you get on that horse,
you don't want to get off that horse.
1970
01:36:34,206 --> 01:36:36,333
There's a lot of people,
there's a lot of shots.
1971
01:36:36,416 --> 01:36:39,461
It didn't lend itself well to comedy.
1972
01:36:39,544 --> 01:36:41,713
The... all the comedy was a little broad.
1973
01:36:41,796 --> 01:36:44,216
- Oh!
- It started to wear thin
1974
01:36:44,299 --> 01:36:46,510
and started to get frustrating.
1975
01:36:46,593 --> 01:36:49,638
And I remember one morning walking to set,
1976
01:36:49,721 --> 01:36:52,224
and he just said, "Hang on for a second,
hang on for a second."
1977
01:36:52,307 --> 01:36:53,683
And I go, "Yeah, what is... what's up?"
1978
01:36:53,767 --> 01:36:57,020
He said, "I'm having, uh,
I'm having an anxiety attack."
1979
01:36:57,103 --> 01:36:59,064
And so I was like, "Yeah, okay, well,
you want to go back to the trailer?"
1980
01:36:59,147 --> 01:37:00,941
"No, no, no, no, no,
I don't want them to know I'm sick."
1981
01:37:01,024 --> 01:37:03,151
Like, "I don't want to, I don't want to,
I don't want to hold things up,
1982
01:37:03,235 --> 01:37:05,111
I don't want a magnifying glass on me."
1983
01:37:05,195 --> 01:37:10,575
We're far away, he's not with his family,
and he's, he's scared.
1984
01:37:10,659 --> 01:37:14,538
We had done a, a movie years ago, too,
and I-I knew he alluded to
1985
01:37:14,621 --> 01:37:17,374
he had to insure himself,
you know, to do the project,
1986
01:37:17,457 --> 01:37:19,334
so he knew that people were watching him.
1987
01:37:19,417 --> 01:37:21,753
So I knew that he didn't want
a microscope on himself
1988
01:37:21,836 --> 01:37:26,466
'cause probably every production
towards the end were sadly saying,
1989
01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:27,884
"Is John gonna make it through it?"
1990
01:37:28,969 --> 01:37:30,887
I think the last day was late in the day.
1991
01:37:30,971 --> 01:37:33,473
You're tired, right?
You're beat up, you just want to get home.
1992
01:37:33,557 --> 01:37:37,978
And then it's, you know, "Okay, now tell
him it's a wrap," and off the horses go.
1993
01:37:38,478 --> 01:37:39,854
I think it was like 2:30 in the morning.
1994
01:37:39,938 --> 01:37:42,857
He was all alone in a big cowboy house.
1995
01:37:44,609 --> 01:37:47,320
And then, when I heard how they found him,
1996
01:37:47,404 --> 01:37:50,991
and it looked like he had sat up
on the side of the bed
1997
01:37:51,074 --> 01:37:55,078
and opened up the Bible...
and was reading from it
1998
01:37:55,161 --> 01:37:58,498
and just passed away on the bed.
1999
01:37:58,582 --> 01:38:00,917
But I remember thinking...
2000
01:38:01,001 --> 01:38:03,878
...how he was trying to find home.
2001
01:38:12,679 --> 01:38:14,389
I had a dream.
2002
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:18,852
Before he died.
2003
01:38:22,689 --> 01:38:25,483
We were outside a door.
2004
01:38:26,735 --> 01:38:28,570
And I was with Jennifer and Christopher.
2005
01:38:35,827 --> 01:38:39,164
And John had died in the other room.
2006
01:38:48,340 --> 01:38:50,216
Yeah, he was leaving.
2007
01:39:01,144 --> 01:39:02,354
One of Canada's most famous
2008
01:39:02,437 --> 01:39:05,940
entertainers, John Candy,
is dead at the age of 43.
2009
01:39:06,024 --> 01:39:07,942
{\an8}Hollywood still reacting
to the shocking news.
2010
01:39:08,026 --> 01:39:09,653
The sudden death of John Candy.
2011
01:39:09,736 --> 01:39:10,945
Although friends and fans are...
2012
01:39:11,029 --> 01:39:12,781
He cofounded
Toronto's Second City troupe
2013
01:39:12,864 --> 01:39:15,575
and then went on to star
on the SCTV television show
2014
01:39:15,659 --> 01:39:17,869
and in more than 30 movies.
2015
01:39:19,454 --> 01:39:23,708
Before his death, John Candy
certainly made a lasting impression,
2016
01:39:23,792 --> 01:39:26,294
particularly on the people here
in Durango, Mexico,
2017
01:39:26,378 --> 01:39:30,507
for it's reported that during the filming,
the actor with the heart of gold
2018
01:39:30,590 --> 01:39:32,592
quietly made a large contribution
2019
01:39:32,676 --> 01:39:36,221
to one of the local hospitals
for the city's needy children.
2020
01:39:36,304 --> 01:39:37,472
How much money did he give them?
2021
01:39:37,555 --> 01:39:38,556
I don't know.
2022
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:42,102
He didn't say anything about it,
but I-I knew he gave some money.
2023
01:39:42,185 --> 01:39:44,562
- Did he try to keep that quiet?
- Yep.
2024
01:39:45,146 --> 01:39:49,651
♪ Ooh... ooh...
2025
01:39:49,734 --> 01:39:50,985
When we're here reminiscing
2026
01:39:51,069 --> 01:39:53,905
about John, it's deep
2027
01:39:53,988 --> 01:39:59,160
because I have to go back
and I've got to relive,
2028
01:39:59,244 --> 01:40:03,957
I've got to, uh, revivify
in my own imagination
2029
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,127
what-what was, what I remember,
what I don't remember, so...
2030
01:40:08,211 --> 01:40:13,258
At the moment that I heard
John was gone, I left the road.
2031
01:40:13,341 --> 01:40:15,260
I drove right up on a person's lawn.
2032
01:40:15,343 --> 01:40:19,848
I mean, I almost hit the lawn jockey and
the, uh, the pink, uh, you know, flamingo.
2033
01:40:20,849 --> 01:40:24,811
And so I shut the truck off
and I sat there, you know, in shock,
2034
01:40:24,894 --> 01:40:26,771
and then...
2035
01:40:26,855 --> 01:40:28,940
a flood of memories came...
2036
01:40:30,316 --> 01:40:36,573
...of that beautiful man and his talent...
and my time with him.
2037
01:40:38,283 --> 01:40:39,784
I thought
I was gonna see him again.
2038
01:40:39,868 --> 01:40:40,869
You know what I mean?
2039
01:40:40,952 --> 01:40:42,245
That's, that's what made me sad.
2040
01:40:42,328 --> 01:40:43,580
I think I was like, "Oh, yeah, like,
2041
01:40:43,663 --> 01:40:46,082
it'll be fun.
He's gonna see, oh, I'm a teenager now."
2042
01:40:47,667 --> 01:40:49,669
I was looking forward to a day like that.
2043
01:40:51,129 --> 01:40:53,131
Just kind of got ripped away.
2044
01:40:55,717 --> 01:40:58,803
That time period is a blur.
2045
01:41:02,474 --> 01:41:05,894
You go white, you go numb.
2046
01:41:05,977 --> 01:41:07,687
And I remember my mom saying,
2047
01:41:07,771 --> 01:41:09,063
"It's okay to cry."
2048
01:41:19,449 --> 01:41:23,036
You're meant to get older
and then experience loss, you know.
2049
01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:24,537
You can understand
2050
01:41:24,621 --> 01:41:27,290
life and existence and, um...
2051
01:41:27,373 --> 01:41:30,084
but a child shouldn't really have
to go through with that,
2052
01:41:30,168 --> 01:41:32,462
um, but it happens too often
to too many people.
2053
01:41:33,546 --> 01:41:38,301
I'm just someone who's experienced it
and has lived with it for my whole life.
2054
01:41:40,762 --> 01:41:42,847
I dreamt about him
more than I ever dreamt
2055
01:41:42,931 --> 01:41:45,099
about my parents after they died,
2056
01:41:45,183 --> 01:41:47,310
and one of the first dreams
2057
01:41:47,393 --> 01:41:52,440
I had of John, we were just hanging out
and laughing and talking and doing bits,
2058
01:41:52,524 --> 01:41:54,359
and it was just really loose
and funny, and,
2059
01:41:54,442 --> 01:41:57,237
and then I said something about...
2060
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,532
"Aw, why'd you have to die?"
2061
01:42:00,615 --> 01:42:04,953
And he said...
"Why'd you have to bring it up?"
2062
01:42:06,371 --> 01:42:12,210
♪ If we can solve any problem ♪
2063
01:42:13,545 --> 01:42:18,383
♪ then why do we lose so many tears...
2064
01:42:18,466 --> 01:42:19,801
O God, our Father,
2065
01:42:19,884 --> 01:42:21,553
it's in a spirit of trust and confidence
2066
01:42:21,636 --> 01:42:23,805
that we present these prayers
and petitions to you.
2067
01:42:23,888 --> 01:42:27,016
We ask you to hear them
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
2068
01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:33,481
- ♪ When the leading man appears ♪
- Please be seated.
2069
01:42:34,065 --> 01:42:37,527
Who am I to be standing
up here, talking about John Candy?
2070
01:42:37,610 --> 01:42:38,611
I'll tell you who I am.
2071
01:42:38,695 --> 01:42:40,572
I'm one of the millions of people
whose lives were touched
2072
01:42:40,655 --> 01:42:44,117
and enriched by the life
that was John Candy.
2073
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,160
I know you all have a story.
2074
01:42:46,661 --> 01:42:50,373
You asked him for his autograph,
and he stopped to ask you about you.
2075
01:42:50,456 --> 01:42:54,085
You auditioned for Second City,
and John watched you, smiling, laughing.
2076
01:42:54,168 --> 01:42:56,963
And though you didn't get the job,
you did get to walk away thinking,
2077
01:42:57,046 --> 01:42:59,048
"What do they know?
John Candy thinks I'm funny."
2078
01:42:59,132 --> 01:43:02,802
♪ Ooh ♪
2079
01:43:02,886 --> 01:43:04,762
♪ Go on...
2080
01:43:04,846 --> 01:43:06,556
You worked one of the thousand
Air Canada flights
2081
01:43:06,639 --> 01:43:10,393
John took between Toronto and L.A.,
and you never had time fly by so fast.
2082
01:43:11,477 --> 01:43:14,480
You worked at the butcher shop,
the fish shop, the market, the LCBO
2083
01:43:14,564 --> 01:43:16,816
where John ordered up
his feast for friends,
2084
01:43:16,900 --> 01:43:19,277
and you took your time
not only to do it just right for him
2085
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,154
but to keep John there
for a moment longer.
2086
01:43:21,988 --> 01:43:23,948
He closed your bar, and it was packed
2087
01:43:24,032 --> 01:43:26,618
because of course no one would leave
until John Candy had gone home.
2088
01:43:27,785 --> 01:43:29,996
Party monster? Maybe.
2089
01:43:30,079 --> 01:43:32,707
Or maybe he knew
you could just use the business.
2090
01:43:33,416 --> 01:43:35,209
I spent nearly every working hour,
2091
01:43:35,293 --> 01:43:38,630
hundreds of evenings and weekends
with John for nearly ten years.
2092
01:43:38,713 --> 01:43:41,382
So where are the details of those days?
2093
01:43:41,966 --> 01:43:47,722
I realize, when I think of John...
it's not in terms of details.
2094
01:43:47,805 --> 01:43:50,808
I think of John in terms
of the big picture.
2095
01:43:50,892 --> 01:43:53,436
♪ away ♪
2096
01:43:53,519 --> 01:43:58,316
♪ you take a piece of me with you ♪
2097
01:43:58,399 --> 01:44:00,902
♪ Oh ♪
2098
01:44:00,985 --> 01:44:03,655
After the funeral
we're going to the internment,
2099
01:44:03,738 --> 01:44:06,741
and I'm in the car
with some other pallbearers,
2100
01:44:06,824 --> 01:44:10,912
and all of a sudden...
I look out the window
2101
01:44:10,995 --> 01:44:13,206
and I'm just saying, "Guys, guys, guys."
2102
01:44:14,374 --> 01:44:16,000
"Where's the traffic?"
2103
01:44:16,084 --> 01:44:18,753
Oh, my God,
2104
01:44:18,836 --> 01:44:24,008
they've shut the 405 down
for John's funeral procession.
2105
01:44:24,092 --> 01:44:28,096
And you saw at every entrance
cops doing this.
2106
01:44:37,188 --> 01:44:41,317
You know you've made it
when they're closing freeways for you.
2107
01:44:43,194 --> 01:44:44,946
It's only been done twice before,
2108
01:44:45,029 --> 01:44:49,200
once for the pope
and the other for the president.
2109
01:44:53,621 --> 01:44:55,748
- Happy Thanksgiving, Neal.
- Okay.
2110
01:44:56,791 --> 01:45:00,962
In this movie Planes,
Trains & Automobiles, it's at the end.
2111
01:45:01,546 --> 01:45:02,714
My character is ready
2112
01:45:02,797 --> 01:45:03,881
to give it up.
2113
01:45:03,965 --> 01:45:05,216
He's gonna go home.
2114
01:45:05,299 --> 01:45:08,511
I say, "Well, it's been great.
I got to know you. Fantastic."
2115
01:45:09,595 --> 01:45:13,641
And I leave him
and I start thinking about,
2116
01:45:13,725 --> 01:45:17,437
"This doesn't make sense
that he's going back to his wife.
2117
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,188
It doesn't make sense."
2118
01:45:19,272 --> 01:45:21,983
And I turn around, I go back...
2119
01:45:23,860 --> 01:45:25,987
...invite him home.
2120
01:45:34,787 --> 01:45:40,293
John Candy is a man
who will look you in the eye and be
2121
01:45:40,376 --> 01:45:42,503
so present with you
2122
01:45:42,587 --> 01:45:44,964
that he will make you feel as though
2123
01:45:45,048 --> 01:45:50,261
you are the most fascinating creature
on the planet Earth.
2124
01:45:50,845 --> 01:45:52,972
He's such an everyman,
2125
01:45:53,056 --> 01:45:57,018
and we love it when that everyman
becomes a star because that's us.
2126
01:45:57,101 --> 01:45:58,644
We invested in him.
2127
01:45:59,729 --> 01:46:02,815
If he didn't have
such an ebullient spirit,
2128
01:46:02,899 --> 01:46:04,275
you wouldn't have missed him so much,
2129
01:46:04,358 --> 01:46:09,030
but he was such a presence and such
a sweetheart of a guy that to take
2130
01:46:09,113 --> 01:46:12,950
that away from us was...
it was-was a sin, just a sin.
2131
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:18,122
There are, you know,
there are horses out there in the world,
2132
01:46:18,206 --> 01:46:20,333
but it's rare when you actually run
into, like, a unicorn,
2133
01:46:20,416 --> 01:46:24,378
and I think that's really what it is,
that he was just a unique creature
2134
01:46:24,462 --> 01:46:27,131
that cut a certain kind of silhouette
into your soul.
2135
01:46:34,639 --> 01:46:36,974
You're a fairly funny guy.
2136
01:46:37,058 --> 01:46:39,185
Well, thank you, and so are you.
2137
01:46:42,730 --> 01:46:44,649
That's a nice thing to say to somebody.
2138
01:46:44,732 --> 01:46:46,109
"You're a funny guy."
2139
01:46:46,192 --> 01:46:48,069
It's better than saying you're a jerk.
2140
01:46:48,152 --> 01:46:50,238
I'll take the funny guy anytime.
2141
01:46:50,321 --> 01:46:52,865
"You know, you're an ass."
"Thank you."
2142
01:46:52,949 --> 01:46:53,991
You know?
"You're a funny guy."
2143
01:46:54,075 --> 01:46:56,244
"Thank you very much, I appreciate that."
2144
01:47:13,469 --> 01:47:14,679
Okay, I told you it's hard.
2145
01:47:14,762 --> 01:47:17,849
It's really hard to talk about Candy
'cause, except for saying
2146
01:47:17,932 --> 01:47:21,060
that this one scene
where he really milked it like crazy,
2147
01:47:21,144 --> 01:47:23,104
there's nothing really bad to say
about the guy.
2148
01:47:23,187 --> 01:47:25,398
If that's the worst thing
that ever happened to the guy...
2149
01:47:27,066 --> 01:47:29,819
{\an8}I feel like putting, like,
an extra tombstone on.
2150
01:47:29,902 --> 01:47:32,905
{\an8}"By the way, he really milked
this one scene really badly once."
2151
01:47:34,073 --> 01:47:35,199
{\an8}Let's not forget.
2152
01:47:35,283 --> 01:47:37,827
{\an8}I-I mean, everybody loved the guy, but...
2153
01:47:39,162 --> 01:47:41,914
{\an8}Sydney Pollack had a moment with him.
2154
01:47:45,418 --> 01:47:46,586
{\an8}Y'all come back now, hear?
2155
01:47:46,669 --> 01:47:49,297
{\an8}Orange whip? Orange whip?
2156
01:47:49,380 --> 01:47:50,381
{\an8}Three orange whips.
2157
01:47:50,464 --> 01:47:52,592
{\an8}One of the most talented men
in the field of comedy.
2158
01:47:53,593 --> 01:47:56,554
{\an8}Oh, you better hope to hell you didn't
kiss my ass, that's all I got to say.
2159
01:47:56,637 --> 01:47:57,889
{\an8}Oh, yeah, and why not?
2160
01:47:57,972 --> 01:47:59,640
{\an8}You put a hickey on my ass, pal,
2161
01:47:59,724 --> 01:48:02,101
{\an8}I'll have a letter in your hand
from my lawyer real quick.
2162
01:48:03,019 --> 01:48:04,270
{\an8}Where is that license?
2163
01:48:04,353 --> 01:48:06,063
{\an8}Not there, no.
2164
01:48:06,147 --> 01:48:07,899
{\an8}More cash, more cash.
2165
01:48:07,982 --> 01:48:11,986
{\an8}Oh, what's this
next to this folded ten dollar bill?
2166
01:48:12,069 --> 01:48:13,779
{\an8}A license.
2167
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,698
{\an8}You, uh, sure you're okay, Bill?
2168
01:48:15,781 --> 01:48:17,116
{\an8}I know you're concerned about this trial.
2169
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:18,201
{\an8}Say when.
2170
01:48:18,284 --> 01:48:19,285
{\an8}Uh, that's good, Bill.
2171
01:48:19,368 --> 01:48:21,913
{\an8}Lincoln,
Chicago's largest shop-at-home service,
2172
01:48:21,996 --> 01:48:25,458
{\an8}buys in tremendous volume
from America's finest carpeting mills.
2173
01:48:25,541 --> 01:48:29,128
{\an8}The best human being
I've ever met is John Candy.
2174
01:48:29,212 --> 01:48:31,380
{\an8}He was my angel.
2175
01:48:31,464 --> 01:48:32,465
{\an8}Man,
2176
01:48:32,548 --> 01:48:34,383
{\an8}he affected my life.
2177
01:48:34,467 --> 01:48:37,011
{\an8}But very soon,
John Candy is going to be doing
2178
01:48:37,094 --> 01:48:39,639
{\an8}all the great roles
that Charles Laughton has done.
2179
01:48:39,722 --> 01:48:41,682
{\an8}He is a fantastic actor.
2180
01:48:41,766 --> 01:48:44,101
{\an8}- You listen to Mother.
- I'm listening.
2181
01:48:45,102 --> 01:48:49,065
{\an8}We'd exchange gifts and-and, uh,
then we'd sit and read stories,
2182
01:48:49,148 --> 01:48:51,025
{\an8}- Christmas stories--
- You exchange socks?
2183
01:48:52,151 --> 01:48:55,279
{\an8}Do they have that in your, um, Christmas?
2184
01:48:55,363 --> 01:48:56,447
{\an8}- We exchange socks.
- You do that?
2185
01:48:56,530 --> 01:48:58,449
{\an8}Oh, yeah, yeah, the male guys do.
2186
01:48:58,532 --> 01:49:02,453
{\an8}The male members of-of the family would
exchange socks with each other, you know.
2187
01:49:02,536 --> 01:49:03,788
{\an8}- No, I've never heard of that.
- Yeah.
2188
01:49:03,871 --> 01:49:06,040
{\an8}Well, I-I just thought-thought...
I thought everybody did that, you know.
2189
01:49:06,123 --> 01:49:07,708
{\an8}- What does that mean?
- You just take the socks off your feet
2190
01:49:07,792 --> 01:49:09,335
{\an8}and you give it to the guy next to you,
you know,
2191
01:49:09,418 --> 01:49:12,588
{\an8}or, like, you know, your uncle,
your cousin, whoever.
2192
01:49:12,672 --> 01:49:14,507
{\an8}- But, uh...
- And this is planned?
2193
01:49:14,590 --> 01:49:15,675
{\an8}Oh, yeah, every Christmas,
2194
01:49:15,758 --> 01:49:17,093
{\an8}- every Christmas.
- Ah.
2195
01:49:17,176 --> 01:49:18,678
{\an8}It's kind of the first thing you do
when you get up.
2196
01:49:19,178 --> 01:49:21,138
{\an8}You want to hurt me?
2197
01:49:21,222 --> 01:49:23,140
{\an8}Go right ahead
if it makes you feel any better.
2198
01:49:23,224 --> 01:49:24,767
{\an8}I'm an easy target.
2199
01:49:24,850 --> 01:49:27,019
{\an8}And for the first time
in a long while...
2200
01:49:28,104 --> 01:49:29,522
{\an8}I like me.
2201
01:49:30,064 --> 01:49:31,732
{\an8}My wife likes me.
2202
01:49:31,816 --> 01:49:36,320
{\an8}My customers like me...
'cause I'm the real article.
2203
01:49:36,404 --> 01:49:38,114
{\an8}What you see is what you get.
2204
01:49:39,615 --> 01:49:41,075
{\an8}- See you later.
- Okay.
2205
01:49:41,158 --> 01:49:42,493
{\an8}Bye.
2206
01:49:42,576 --> 01:49:43,661
{\an8}Bye.
2207
01:52:16,355 --> 01:52:17,356
The trunk?
2208
01:52:18,691 --> 01:52:21,193
Yeah, the trunk.
2209
01:52:41,130 --> 01:52:44,091
There it is.