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<i>[explosions, terrified screams]</i>

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NEWSCASTER: <i>Right now
a massive barrage of rockets</i>

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<i>coming off of the Gaza Strip.</i>

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NEWSCASTER 2:
<i>The terrorist group Hamas</i>

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<i>launched an unprecedented</i>

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<i>air, ground and even sea assault
on Israeli soil.</i>

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[gunfire, screams]

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NEWSCASTER 3:
<i>Palestinian gunmen are inside</i>

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<i>Israeli cities and towns.</i>

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NEWSCASTER 4:
<i>There are reports that civilians</i>

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<i>were barricaded in their homes</i>

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<i>with Hamas gunmen going door
to door in one Israeli village.</i>

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NEWSCASTER 5:
<i>The single worst incident</i>

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<i>of this entire attack
was at a party</i>

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<i>just a couple of miles away
from the Gaza border.</i>

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[gunshots]

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NEWSCASTER 6:
<i>They have taken Israelis hostage</i>

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<i>back inside of Gaza.</i>

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[chatter in Arabic]

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NEWSCASTER 7:
<i>Israelis woke up today to find</i>

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<i>their worst nightmares
had come true.</i>

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IRIT LAHAV: <i>6:30 a.m.
we had missile alert.</i>

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I quickly jumped out of bed.
We have ten seconds.

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Ran to the safe room,

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<i>closed the door.</i>

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<i>A minute later,</i>

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my daughter says,
"I hear shooting."

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I said, "No. Come on,
you're imagining."

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Another minute later,

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my next-door neighbor wrote

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<i>in the kibbutz's
messaging system,</i>

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<i>"Somebody is shooting
at our house."</i>

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SHAI DAVIDAI:
<i>It's Friday night here.</i>

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<i>My wife and I are about
to go to bed.</i>

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<i>We just look at our phone
for a second</i>

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<i>and we see a picture that we get</i>

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from my sister-in-law,
her one-year-old boy,

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kind of like standing upright,

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<i>looking at the TV and we see
missiles shot at Israel.</i>

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NOA TISHBY: <i>It was 8:30 p.m.
in the West Coast</i>

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<i>and suddenly my phone rings
and it's my sister from Israel.</i>

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I had a-a hunch
that something is wrong.

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I picked up the phone
and she is there

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and there are sirens in
the background and explosions.

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<i>Nobody is reporting
in mainstream media.</i>

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<i>So I have the Israeli news on
and I'm learning</i>

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what's unfolding
as-as it's happening

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and I go on Live on Instagram.

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The Hamas terrorists have
started launching rockets

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into Israel in order to mask
a land infiltration.

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<i>They have entered Israel
on trucks</i>

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and on air glides, armed,

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and are currently

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<i>roaming the streets all over
the south of Israel,</i>

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<i>looking for Jews to slaughter.</i>

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[gunshots]

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DAVIDAI: <i>Those first images
of Hamas terrorists</i>

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<i>driving Toyotas and shooting
indiscriminately into houses.</i>

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It's just-- we realized
something big is happening.

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LAHAV: <i>Another neighbor
sent us a message saying</i>

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<i>that he sees militant people
fully armed.</i>

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<i>"Stay in your safe rooms
and lock your doors."</i>

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And I knew that these doors
cannot be locked.

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<i>Those was endless shooting,
automatic weapon.</i>

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[gunfire]

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<i>We realized that
they are going from</i>

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door to door, door to door,

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and soon enough
they will come to our house.

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[distant gunshots]

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[chatter in Arabic]

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<i>Luckily, my brother,
who's an engineer,</i>

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<i>he sent me a picture of how</i>

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<i>he locked his door
with two broomsticks.</i>

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<i>I grabbed an oar,</i>

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took apart my vacuum cleaner.

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I used the metal hose of
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<i>took a leather cord because
I wanted it to be very strong,</i>

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<i>and I tied them
to the door handle</i>

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<i>and then made an "X."</i>

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<i>Orna Pauker was writing:</i>

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<i>"My husband was shot.</i>

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<i>He's bleeding."</i>

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<i>Nir Adar:
"They're in my house."</i>

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<i>Michal Itzik:
"They're burning my house."</i>

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<i>Efrat Katz: "They're walking
around with knives.</i>

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<i>They took Gadi."</i>

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<i>Avner Goren:</i>

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"They're in my house."

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[crying softly]

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He was shot.

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In his bed.

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And his dog, too.

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And his wife was
in the baby room

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and she was shot there.

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<i>At around 10:30,</i>

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<i>we were still hoping that they
would not come</i>

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<i>to our safe room's door,</i>

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but eventually they did.

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<i>We thought this was our end.</i>

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TESSA VEKSLER: <i>I woke up
and my two housemates</i>

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were just staring at me.

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They said, "Tessa,
there's a war in Israel."

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And my response was, "There's
always a war in Israel."

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And they looked at me and they
said, "This one's different."

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<i>My phone flooded with
all these horrific images</i>

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<i>and videos coming out.</i>

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[horns honking]

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[repeats phrase in Arabic]

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LAHAV: <i>6:00,
we had not been able to drink</i>

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<i>or eat for 12 hours.</i>

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<i>We heard Hebrew.</i>

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<i>Somebody was saying,
"I'm from the Army.</i>

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<i>I came to rescue you."</i>

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<i>And then
he opened the door wide.</i>

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<i>We saw everything broken
in the house.</i>

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<i>He walked us to a safer area</i>

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<i>where they gathered all
the people from the kibbutz.</i>

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And we go, "What? Where is
everybody? Where is everybody?"

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And we realized that
so many people are missing.

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NEWSCASTER:
<i>The Israeli military</i>

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<i>has declared
a state of war alert</i>

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<i>and is mobilizing its forces
in response</i>

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<i>to an unprecedented
attack today.</i>

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Israeli forces are
now going house to house

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recovering bodies of... of men,

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<i>of-of women, and of children.</i>

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<i>Too many to count, too many
so far to give name to,</i>

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<i>that they say one word
describes what happened here,</i>

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<i>and that is a "massacre."</i>

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LIAD DIAMOND:
<i>The second day of the war,</i>

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we got nearly 200 journalists
from all over the world

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<i>and we just opened the gate.</i>

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<i>Wars today are not only
in battlefields</i>

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<i>but also on different
media outlets,</i>

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<i>on the Internet.</i>

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<i>It's a very challenging war,</i>

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<i>the war of the narrative</i>

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<i>and sometimes even the war
over truth.</i>

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MANDANA DAYANI:
<i>When you actually see</i>

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the level of devastation,

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I don't know how to unsee it.

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<i>It was meant to cause</i>

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the maximum amount of fear

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and suffering in a population
of people

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who have inherited some

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of the worst generational trauma
you can imagine.

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TISHBY: <i>It's all stories
that we've heard</i>

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<i>and grew up on,</i>

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<i>except this time around
they were also</i>

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videotaped.

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TAL-OR COHEN:
<i>This is not a terrorist attack</i>

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<i>that happened in one place
or period of time.</i>

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It happened multiple times
on your most intimate platforms

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that you're literally seeing
before you go to bed.

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<i>And I think that that's why
this content has penetrated</i>

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<i>the psyche of probably
every Jewish person who</i>

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<i>felt that this
was a genocidal attack</i>

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intended for them.

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<i>[crowd chatter]</i>

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DEMONSTRATOR:
<i>Free, free Palestine!</i>

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Less than 24 hours ago
on the land, from the sea,

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and from the air, the people
of the Gaza Strip...

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[cheering]

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DAN SENOR:
<i>It was October 8th.</i>

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<i>There were still Hamas
terrorists in communities</i>

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<i>in Southern Israel.</i>

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<i>There was still fighting
going on.</i>

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DEMONSTRATORS:
Free, free Palestine!

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<i>Israel was still counting</i>

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the numbers of the dead
and the mutilated

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and the raped and the kidnapped,

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<i>and there's a protest against
Israel in Times Square.</i>

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Fuck Israel! Fuck Israel!

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SENOR: <i>Rather than the outrage
being directed against those</i>

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slaughtering the Jews,
the outrage was being directed

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at the Jews for objecting
to being slaughtered.

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[shouting indistinctly]

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LORENZO VIDINO: <i>We were seeing
protests glorifying the actions</i>

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<i>of the resistance, which is
sort of code word for Hamas.</i>

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How many dead?
How many dead?

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VIDINO: <i>So it became apparent,
I would say from the get-go</i>

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<i>that there was a core</i>

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of individuals nationwide

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that were pushing a pro-Hamas

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<i>narrative.</i>

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DEBRA MESSING:
<i>I just thought</i>

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<i>the entire world
turned upside down</i>

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<i>and I immediately felt like,</i>

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"We're in trouble,"

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because Israel
hadn't responded yet.

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SHABBOS KESTENBAUM: <i>In
the early hours of October 8th,</i>

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34 student groups
really championed

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by the Harvard Palestine
Solidarity Committee,

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<i>promoted this statement.
The opening line says,</i>

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<i>"we hold the Israeli regime
entirely responsible</i>

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<i>for all the violence unfolding."</i>

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At no point was Hamas
ever condemned or even named.

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RABBI DAVID WOLPE: <i>The statement
went viral all over the world.</i>

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<i>In a strange way,
Harvard had become,</i>

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outside of the Middle East
itself, the single

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<i>most important battleground</i>

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<i>for forces on both sides
of this continuing struggle.</i>

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NEWSCASTER: <i>Hundreds of people
supporting the Palestinians</i>

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<i>gathered outside
Cambridge City Hall today.</i>

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<i>Dozens supporting Israel held</i>

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<i>a counter protest
across the street.</i>

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WOLPE:
<i>Once Harvard had set the tone,</i>

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<i>it started this</i>

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unfathomable chain reaction.

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DEMONSTRATORS:
<i>Free, free Palestine!</i>

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- Free, free Palestine!
- Free, free Palestine!

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- Free, free! Free Palestine!
- Free, free! Free Palestine!

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Israel, go to hell!

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NOA FAY:
<i>October 12th was the first</i>

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anti-Israel and pro-terror rally
that we saw on campus.

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<i>I was still consumed by the
ongoing grief of October 7th.</i>

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<i>It was incredibly shocking
to see my peers in support</i>

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<i>of a terrorist attack.</i>

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<i>I personally was starting to</i>

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just feel a lot of tension
within my own social circles.

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REPORTER: <i>From the quad
of Columbia University,</i>

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<i>dual rallies, side by side.</i>

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DAVIDAI: <i>This is the first time
since the Vietnam War</i>

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<i>that Columbia University
shut its gates to the public.</i>

235
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What I see is about 900 students

236
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<i>shouting "by all means necessary."</i>

237
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<i>And behind me, about 200</i>

238
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<i>Jewish American students
holding the posters</i>

239
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<i>of the kidnapped
in absolute silence.</i>

240
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<i>So it's two quads and I'm
standing there in the middle.</i>

241
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<i>I wasn't seeing an ideological
disagreement between two sides.</i>

242
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I was seeing hatred.

243
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[shouting indistinctly]

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EYAL YAKOBY:
<i>Even before October 11th,</i>

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<i>we've been seeing more and more</i>

246
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<i>anti-Semitic incidents
on campus.</i>

247
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"Jews are Nazis"
was spray-painted adjacent

248
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<i>to Penn's main Jewish
fraternity house.</i>

249
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<i>There was a swastika spray-
painted inside of a building.</i>

250
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<i>"90% of pigs are gas chambered"
was written in chalk</i>

251
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<i>in the center of campus.</i>

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DEMONSTRATORS: Hey, hey, ho, ho,
the occupation has got to go.

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Hey, hey, ho, ho,
the occupation...

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CLAUDINE GAY:
<i>Our university embraces</i>

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a commitment to free expression.

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That commitment extends
even to views that many of us

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find objectionable,
even outrageous.

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WOLPE:
<i>I got a call from Claudine Gay</i>

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and she was deeply emotional.

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She'd been in the job for two,
three months

261
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and all of a sudden
it was the biggest crisis

262
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that the university has had.

263
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<i>She talked about creating
an anti-Semitism panel</i>

264
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<i>and I thought, "Okay,
this is gonna be the response</i>

265
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<i>"of the university.</i>

266
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<i>"People can protest
'cause protesting is okay,</i>

267
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but this stuff is gonna stop."

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JEWISH STUDENT:
Stop touching me.

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PROTESTERS:
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!

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SENOR:
<i>Protests quickly turned</i>

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beyond just rhetorical outbursts

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<i>to bullying and pushing</i>

273
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<i>and shoving and then
outright violence.</i>

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FAY:
<i>You have students who are being</i>

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physically assaulted.
Their Magen Davids

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are being ripped off
their neck.

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They're being shouted at because
they're visibly Jewish.

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DEMONSTRATORS:
Viva, viva Palestina.

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TALIA DROR: <i>You had massive
rallies at Cornell.</i>

280
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<i>Students, professors,</i>

281
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and administrators all glorified
the October 7th attacks.

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<i>Professor Russell Rickford</i>

283
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<i>announced that
he was exhilarated</i>

284
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and energized
by the Hamas attacks.

285
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<i>A lot of students
called it resistance.</i>

286
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They called it justified.

287
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They began calling
Zionist students racist.

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PROTESTOR: All settlers
and all settlements

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are legitimate military targets

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and they will be targeted

291
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and you can either
live there in peace

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or you can go back to Moscow,
and Brooklyn, and Gstaad

293
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and fucking Berlin,
where you came from.

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YAKOBY: <i>We started seeing
an explosion of violence.</i>

295
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<i>The Chabad house</i>

296
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was broken into and vandalized.

297
00:16:06,835 --> 00:16:08,924
The Hillel received
bomb threats.

298
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<i>Jewish students are texting
in their group chats</i>

299
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saying, "Is it safe
to walk outside?"

300
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We cannot protect your children
from pro-terror

301
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student organizations
because the president

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of Columbia University
will not speak out.

303
00:16:29,597 --> 00:16:31,294
[over video]: People have
asked me in the past few days,

304
00:16:31,468 --> 00:16:33,644
"Are you not afraid to speak up?

305
00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:36,169
You're putting your job
on the line."

306
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You got it all wrong.

307
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I am not afraid to speak up.

308
00:16:39,563 --> 00:16:43,437
I am speaking up
because I'm afraid!

309
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[sighs heavily]

310
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This is the rawest that
I've ever been. Right?

311
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Like, this is, you know,

312
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this is when--
when you take away

313
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all the-the defense mechanisms

314
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and it's like this is pure pain.

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VEKSLER:
<i>UCSB is generally a calm campus.</i>

316
00:17:10,638 --> 00:17:12,944
<i>There were protests
here and there,</i>

317
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but a lot of it
was behind the scenes.

318
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A lot of it
was happening online.

319
00:17:16,165 --> 00:17:17,079
[notification chimes]

320
00:17:17,253 --> 00:17:18,863
<i>Right after October 7th,</i>

321
00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:21,562
<i>I made a post essentially
saying October 7th</i>

322
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<i>was the largest massacre
against Jews</i>

323
00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:25,174
<i>since the Holocaust.</i>

324
00:17:25,348 --> 00:17:27,611
<i>Standing up for Jewish
human rights is not political.</i>

325
00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:29,744
<i>I stand with
the Jewish community.</i>

326
00:17:29,918 --> 00:17:32,703
<i>And I stand with Israel,
and you should, too.</i>

327
00:17:32,877 --> 00:17:35,532
The hate started flooding in
almost immediately.

328
00:17:35,706 --> 00:17:38,796
And a lot of it was really
tied to the fact

329
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that I'm student body president
of my university.

330
00:17:42,844 --> 00:17:45,760
<i>And people were upset
that I was taking a stance.</i>

331
00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:50,330
<i>It was on every platform
you could imagine.</i>

332
00:17:52,810 --> 00:17:54,682
<i>And also,
they were kind of acting</i>

333
00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:56,771
<i>as if I had emerged
from the Zionist closet,</i>

334
00:17:56,945 --> 00:17:58,468
even though

335
00:17:58,642 --> 00:18:00,644
<i>when I was elected
student body president,</i>

336
00:18:00,818 --> 00:18:02,429
<i>I was the president of
Students Supporting Israel</i>

337
00:18:02,603 --> 00:18:05,475
<i>on my campus when I ran.</i>

338
00:18:08,261 --> 00:18:10,611
<i>My parents
and my brother immigrated</i>

339
00:18:10,785 --> 00:18:13,875
<i>from the former Soviet Union
in 1990,</i>

340
00:18:14,049 --> 00:18:15,703
<i>and I know that</i>

341
00:18:15,877 --> 00:18:17,444
a big reason as to why they left

342
00:18:17,618 --> 00:18:19,881
was anti-Semitism.

343
00:18:20,055 --> 00:18:23,624
<i>They didn't want my brother to
have this life that they had.</i>

344
00:18:23,798 --> 00:18:26,235
<i>The definitely relinquished
their Jewish identities.</i>

345
00:18:26,409 --> 00:18:29,238
<i>I mean, they put my brother
in a Catholic school.</i>

346
00:18:29,412 --> 00:18:31,762
<i>My brother and I
are 20 years apart.</i>

347
00:18:31,936 --> 00:18:34,765
<i>So by the time I was born,
things had changed a bit.</i>

348
00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:36,376
<i>My parents were more open</i>

349
00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:40,031
to the idea of having
a Jewish-raised daughter.

350
00:18:40,206 --> 00:18:44,123
<i>But it was really obvious
that there was a fear</i>

351
00:18:44,297 --> 00:18:46,560
around being
an openly Jewish person.

352
00:18:46,734 --> 00:18:50,999
They didn't have to say it.
It was just clear to me.

353
00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:55,395
<i>I feel a big responsibility
defending my people.</i>

354
00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:59,225
<i>I can't be quiet about this.</i>

355
00:18:59,399 --> 00:19:03,011
<i>I published an op-ed called
"What College Students Can Do</i>

356
00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:06,319
<i>to Support the Jewish People
and Israel."</i>

357
00:19:06,493 --> 00:19:08,103
Imagine if on October 9th,

358
00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:11,106
instead of harassing me
on social media,

359
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,414
that the entire student body
bound together to condemn

360
00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,851
what happened on October 7th.

361
00:19:17,025 --> 00:19:19,332
And if every American
college campus did that

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00:19:19,506 --> 00:19:20,898
and the U.S. government did that

363
00:19:21,072 --> 00:19:22,465
and the international
community did that,

364
00:19:22,639 --> 00:19:24,902
Hamas would've had
no ammunition.

365
00:19:26,556 --> 00:19:31,126
FAY: <i>Everything
that we saw was organized</i>

366
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<i>and directed by SJP.</i>

367
00:19:33,694 --> 00:19:36,175
<i>They took the initiative to</i>

368
00:19:36,349 --> 00:19:39,090
host the rallies,
to provide the chants.

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00:19:40,527 --> 00:19:42,268
JONATHAN SCHANZER:
<i>SJP, or Students for Justice</i>

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00:19:42,442 --> 00:19:47,229
<i>in Palestine is probably
the most active network</i>

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00:19:47,403 --> 00:19:51,712
of students, professors,
administrators, and activists.

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00:19:51,886 --> 00:19:54,845
Vehemently anti-Israel,
anti-Zionist.

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00:19:55,019 --> 00:19:56,630
75% of most of the resources

374
00:19:56,804 --> 00:19:59,198
that support Islamophobia
is coming from

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00:19:59,372 --> 00:20:01,112
pro-Israel sources.
If you don't know...

376
00:20:01,287 --> 00:20:03,419
SCHANZER: <i>Hatem Bazian,
the current chairman</i>

377
00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:06,683
<i>of American Muslims
for Palestine</i>

378
00:20:06,857 --> 00:20:08,946
<i>created the first branch of</i>

379
00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:11,384
<i>Students for Justice
in Palestine</i>

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00:20:11,558 --> 00:20:14,387
<i>on the campus of Berkeley
in the 1990s.</i>

381
00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:15,910
HATEM BAZIAN:
<i>Well, we've been watching</i>

382
00:20:16,084 --> 00:20:17,955
intifada in Palestine.

383
00:20:18,129 --> 00:20:20,784
We've been watching
an uprising in Iraq

384
00:20:20,958 --> 00:20:25,224
and it's about time that we have
an intifada in this country!

385
00:20:25,398 --> 00:20:29,140
- [continues indistinctly]
- [crowd cheering]

386
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SCHANZER:
<i>And today we believe</i>

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that there are about
200 different branches

388
00:20:33,884 --> 00:20:37,148
of SJP operating on campuses
across the United States.

389
00:20:37,323 --> 00:20:39,586
<i>But when I say we believe,
I say that</i>

390
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,504
<i>because they are
an unincorporated association.</i>

391
00:20:44,678 --> 00:20:48,421
<i>It's not a not-for-profit.
It's not a 501[c][3].</i>

392
00:20:48,595 --> 00:20:51,728
They actually don't exist
on paper

393
00:20:51,902 --> 00:20:54,775
in any accountable way.

394
00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:58,387
<i>People think they
are grassroots.</i>

395
00:20:58,561 --> 00:21:00,302
<i>What I don't think
they understand is</i>

396
00:21:00,476 --> 00:21:02,217
<i>a terrorist group is
actually providing them</i>

397
00:21:02,391 --> 00:21:04,088
<i>with marching orders.</i>

398
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:07,091
DEMONSTRATORS:
Free, free Palestine!

399
00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,877
♪ ♪

400
00:21:13,097 --> 00:21:14,882
VIDINO:
<i>Back in '93,</i>

401
00:21:15,056 --> 00:21:18,146
<i>a meeting took place
in a hotel in Philadelphia.</i>

402
00:21:19,626 --> 00:21:21,584
25 leaders of Hamas in America--
we're talking about

403
00:21:21,758 --> 00:21:25,284
very senior people--
met and discussed strategy.

404
00:21:25,458 --> 00:21:28,461
<i>This meeting was monitored
by the FBI.</i>

405
00:21:28,635 --> 00:21:30,811
[voices speaking Arabic]

406
00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:47,131
<i>And the main thing they
discussed was how to present</i>

407
00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:50,874
what Hamas was doing and make it
palatable to Americans.

408
00:21:51,048 --> 00:21:56,010
<i>And so in a very efficient,
very precise way, they said,</i>

409
00:21:56,184 --> 00:21:57,577
"Okay, with audience so-and-so--

410
00:21:57,751 --> 00:21:59,187
"so when we meet
with progressives,

411
00:21:59,361 --> 00:22:01,755
"we're gonna frame it
in the terms of apartheid

412
00:22:01,929 --> 00:22:03,670
and racial oppression."

413
00:22:03,844 --> 00:22:05,933
[voices speaking Arabic]

414
00:22:12,548 --> 00:22:15,725
<i>What we're seeing today
is the realization</i>

415
00:22:15,899 --> 00:22:18,946
<i>and the implementation
of that strategy.</i>

416
00:22:20,643 --> 00:22:22,558
<i>These people know very well</i>

417
00:22:22,732 --> 00:22:25,605
<i>what the American political
discourse is and the language</i>

418
00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:27,171
they are repackaging is really

419
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:31,045
what makes SJP
a very clever organization.

420
00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:34,614
ASAF ROMIROWSKY:
<i>SJP had a toolkit in place</i>

421
00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:40,315
<i>right after October 7th that
was a how-to guide with succinct</i>

422
00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:44,798
<i>and analogous messaging for how
to mobilize their students</i>

423
00:22:44,972 --> 00:22:48,149
<i>and their chapter members
throughout the United States.</i>

424
00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:52,762
<i>And that toolkit came to them
directly</i>

425
00:22:52,936 --> 00:22:55,243
<i>out of Hamas messaging.</i>

426
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:58,768
Hamas is a terrorist
organization defined

427
00:22:58,942 --> 00:23:00,944
by the U.S. State Department

428
00:23:01,118 --> 00:23:04,034
<i>and designated
as a terror group.</i>

429
00:23:04,208 --> 00:23:05,427
TAL-OR COHEN MONTEMAYOR:
<i>The attack</i>

430
00:23:05,601 --> 00:23:07,516
by Hamas on October 7th
was called

431
00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:09,736
<i>the Al Aqsa Flood.</i>

432
00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:13,000
<i>That's how they referred
to it themselves, Hamas.</i>

433
00:23:13,174 --> 00:23:16,177
And then we saw SJP create

434
00:23:16,351 --> 00:23:18,658
<i>Flood the Streets for Palestine.</i>

435
00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:21,312
<i>So they're literally taking
something that's being used</i>

436
00:23:21,487 --> 00:23:24,925
<i>by a terrorist group to actually
perpetuate violence and now</i>

437
00:23:25,099 --> 00:23:26,796
adapting that into their imagery

438
00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:29,016
and their protest content.

439
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:31,105
ROMIROWSKY:
<i>From a funding standpoint,</i>

440
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:32,889
<i>there's a lot of flow of money</i>

441
00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:36,327
<i>that's coming to fund
this kind of activism.</i>

442
00:23:37,198 --> 00:23:41,942
<i>SJP is an affiliate of American
Muslims for Palestine, AMP.</i>

443
00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:44,031
<i>AMP has direct ties to Hamas</i>

444
00:23:44,205 --> 00:23:46,076
<i>and the Muslim Brotherhood.</i>

445
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:49,689
<i>And so SJP receives direct
funding from groups affiliated</i>

446
00:23:49,863 --> 00:23:53,040
<i>with the Muslim Brotherhood
including Hamas itself.</i>

447
00:23:53,214 --> 00:23:56,696
<i>SCHANZER: The Muslim Brotherhood
is the cornerstone ideology</i>

448
00:23:56,870 --> 00:24:00,743
<i>for every radical group that has
ever attacked America.</i>

449
00:24:00,917 --> 00:24:03,616
But Hamas took their
radical ideology

450
00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:05,313
and put it on steroids.

451
00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,576
And that's what is actually
really so troubling

452
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:12,668
is that you are now watching
students on the streets

453
00:24:12,842 --> 00:24:17,020
of America embracing
the notion of violence.

454
00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:22,373
OTHERS:
I am asking you all to escalate.

455
00:24:25,681 --> 00:24:27,727
OTHERS:
And to disrupt the streets.

456
00:24:29,642 --> 00:24:31,861
OTHERS:
To every single oppressor.

457
00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:34,516
OREN SEGAL: <i>My whole
sort of career is built on</i>

458
00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:37,345
kind of when the hair stands
behind your neck

459
00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,739
because you know things
are getting too far.

460
00:24:39,913 --> 00:24:41,741
Well, I'm in that moment
right now,

461
00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:45,745
and that's why I think this is
different than previous protests

462
00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:50,097
<i>that didn't have the blatant
blueprint for violence.</i>

463
00:24:50,271 --> 00:24:52,273
[demonstrators chanting]

464
00:24:56,277 --> 00:24:58,584
TISHBY: <i>These organizations
are hate groups</i>

465
00:24:58,758 --> 00:25:02,370
<i>that use amazing words
like "freedom" and "justice,"</i>

466
00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:05,678
<i>and they make the students
believe that</i>

467
00:25:05,852 --> 00:25:07,593
<i>that's what they are about.</i>

468
00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:09,508
Here are the words that
they're not using.

469
00:25:09,682 --> 00:25:11,553
They're not
using the word "peace"

470
00:25:11,727 --> 00:25:13,947
and they're not using the word
"two-state solution."

471
00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:17,907
DEMONSTRATOR:
We want all of it!

472
00:25:19,822 --> 00:25:25,436
BARI WEISS: <i>SJP says explicitly,
what they want is one state</i>

473
00:25:25,611 --> 00:25:28,222
and what they're chanting
in Arabic is not,

474
00:25:28,396 --> 00:25:29,963
"From the river to the sea,
Palestine will be free."

475
00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:32,966
It's, "From the water to
the water, Palestine is Arab."

476
00:25:41,278 --> 00:25:42,323
JONATHAN GREENBLATT:
<i>College students didn't</i>

477
00:25:42,497 --> 00:25:44,455
<i>come up with that slogan.</i>

478
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:47,023
It is enshrined
in the Hamas charter.

479
00:25:47,197 --> 00:25:48,764
When they say that
Palestine will be free

480
00:25:48,938 --> 00:25:52,768
from the river to the sea,
they mean free of Jews.

481
00:25:52,942 --> 00:25:55,815
TISHBY:
<i>SJP is designed</i>

482
00:25:55,989 --> 00:25:59,470
<i>to delegitimize the only
Jewish state in the world.</i>

483
00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:02,473
For example, they'll bring
a vote on campus.

484
00:26:02,648 --> 00:26:05,433
They'll ask the student body
of the university to adopt

485
00:26:05,607 --> 00:26:07,087
the BDS resolution.

486
00:26:07,261 --> 00:26:09,698
SCHANZER:
<i>BDS is the acronym</i>

487
00:26:09,872 --> 00:26:12,135
<i>for Boycott Divestment
and Sanctions.</i>

488
00:26:12,309 --> 00:26:17,227
The engineers of
the BDS movement

489
00:26:17,401 --> 00:26:20,230
look back at the unraveling

490
00:26:20,404 --> 00:26:22,276
<i>of apartheid South Africa</i>

491
00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:27,368
<i>as a template for a way
to destroy Israel,</i>

492
00:26:27,542 --> 00:26:31,938
<i>to turn it into a country
that will be shunned</i>

493
00:26:32,112 --> 00:26:33,722
by the international community.

494
00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:34,984
NEWSCASTER: <i>Protestors
are demanding colleges</i>

495
00:26:35,158 --> 00:26:36,769
<i>divest from companies they say</i>

496
00:26:36,943 --> 00:26:38,422
<i>profit from ties to Israel.</i>

497
00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:39,902
DEMONSTRATOR:
How do you spell justice?

498
00:26:40,076 --> 00:26:41,425
OTHERS:
BDS!

499
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,690
STUDENT:
SBW 24-0-12 passes with...

500
00:26:44,864 --> 00:26:47,431
[clamoring, joyful screaming]

501
00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:50,521
TISHBY:
<i>All of these campus resolutions</i>

502
00:26:50,696 --> 00:26:54,090
<i>have no actual meaning,
but what it does do</i>

503
00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:57,311
is it trains
the college students

504
00:26:57,485 --> 00:26:59,879
that a resolution
on the legitimacy

505
00:27:00,053 --> 00:27:03,360
of Israel is even a valid
resolution to begin with.

506
00:27:03,534 --> 00:27:05,798
So criticism of the state
of Israel is normal

507
00:27:05,972 --> 00:27:08,975
and is important as one would
be critical of any country

508
00:27:09,149 --> 00:27:12,369
and its government for
any range of policies.

509
00:27:13,196 --> 00:27:14,937
<i>There's a big debate
in this country about what</i>

510
00:27:15,111 --> 00:27:17,897
<i>to do about the policies
of the Chinese Communist Party.</i>

511
00:27:18,071 --> 00:27:19,246
You don't hear anyone saying,

512
00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:21,509
"Does China have a right
to exist?"

513
00:27:21,683 --> 00:27:26,079
Somehow when there's a debate
about Israel, it often gets--

514
00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:27,733
there's a sort of
reductionist approach

515
00:27:27,907 --> 00:27:29,299
where quickly the question is,

516
00:27:29,473 --> 00:27:31,040
"Well, does Israel
have a right to exist?"

517
00:27:31,214 --> 00:27:34,653
We don't have that discussion
about any other country,

518
00:27:34,827 --> 00:27:36,524
and that is the way
anti-Semitism

519
00:27:36,698 --> 00:27:38,439
is expressed today.

520
00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:41,877
BLAKE FLAYTON:
<i>One of the greatest perpetrators</i>

521
00:27:42,051 --> 00:27:44,663
<i>of anti-Semitism on campus is,</i>

522
00:27:44,837 --> 00:27:46,447
if not officially DEI,

523
00:27:46,621 --> 00:27:49,015
then the essence of DEI,
the ideology of DEI.

524
00:27:49,189 --> 00:27:51,670
<i>DEI stands for</i>

525
00:27:51,844 --> 00:27:53,541
<i>Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.</i>

526
00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:58,111
<i>And their mission statement
is to promote diversity.</i>

527
00:27:59,634 --> 00:28:00,853
WOLPE:
<i>DEI was designed</i>

528
00:28:01,027 --> 00:28:03,551
basically to make sure
that people

529
00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:06,380
of color would be protected
on campus.

530
00:28:06,554 --> 00:28:09,078
It was not designed,
first of all,

531
00:28:09,252 --> 00:28:10,514
certainly for Jews,

532
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:12,212
but also to realize that you

533
00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:13,430
<i>can be vulnerable on campus</i>

534
00:28:13,604 --> 00:28:15,128
<i>for lots and lots of reasons,</i>

535
00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:17,521
<i>not only for reasons
of your race.</i>

536
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:18,914
SCOTT GALLOWAY:
<i>DEI, like a lot of things,</i>

537
00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:21,482
it started off
with the right intentions

538
00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:23,527
and we've made
tremendous progress,

539
00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,399
and that's something
we should celebrate.

540
00:28:25,573 --> 00:28:28,402
<i>The issue is that
we've created this orthodoxy</i>

541
00:28:28,576 --> 00:28:30,230
<i>that's unhealthy,
where we've decided</i>

542
00:28:30,404 --> 00:28:31,710
<i>there are oppressors
and oppressed.</i>

543
00:28:31,884 --> 00:28:33,233
<i>There's not a lot
of nuance here.</i>

544
00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:35,539
We stand here on
the side of Palestine

545
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,977
because that is the side
of the oppressed.

546
00:28:38,151 --> 00:28:40,588
The fastest way to identify
an oppressor is basically

547
00:28:40,762 --> 00:28:44,287
kind of pale and male
and wealth.

548
00:28:44,984 --> 00:28:46,637
<i>People have assigned
this kind of white,</i>

549
00:28:46,812 --> 00:28:50,990
<i>rich oppressiveness to Jews
and Israel.</i>

550
00:28:51,164 --> 00:28:54,471
And this got so kind of overdone

551
00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:57,213
that I think the snake
started eating its own tail

552
00:28:57,387 --> 00:29:00,869
and you've ended up
with racism itself.

553
00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:03,393
SENOR:
<i>If your lens is just on Israel</i>

554
00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:04,743
<i>versus the Palestinians,</i>

555
00:29:04,917 --> 00:29:06,309
<i>Israel is stronger.</i>

556
00:29:06,483 --> 00:29:08,616
<i>So there's your David
and Goliath.</i>

557
00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:10,749
<i>Now, of course,</i>

558
00:29:10,923 --> 00:29:12,663
if you lift the lens
a little bit,

559
00:29:12,838 --> 00:29:15,710
you realize that the story's
more complicated than that.

560
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:21,368
<i>So you have Hamas,
which is not just a group</i>

561
00:29:21,542 --> 00:29:24,850
<i>of poor Palestinians that have
been oppressed by Israel,</i>

562
00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:28,984
<i>but it is also a military,
which is well-trained</i>

563
00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:31,813
<i>and well-armed by Iran.</i>

564
00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:35,469
And Iran is committed to
Israel's destruction.

565
00:29:44,565 --> 00:29:46,436
<i>Iran is also arming</i>

566
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:50,353
<i>and training another proxy army
in Israel's north, Hezbollah.</i>

567
00:29:50,527 --> 00:29:52,965
<i>And as we're learning about
these other organizations</i>

568
00:29:53,139 --> 00:29:55,489
<i>like the Houthis and Syria,</i>

569
00:29:55,663 --> 00:29:57,056
<i>which is on Israel's border,</i>

570
00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:59,667
<i>and you start to say,
"Wait a minute,</i>

571
00:29:59,841 --> 00:30:02,061
suddenly who's the David
and who's the Goliath?"

572
00:30:02,235 --> 00:30:04,063
Ethnic cleansing no more!

573
00:30:04,237 --> 00:30:05,673
VIDINO:
<i>We can go back 30 years</i>

574
00:30:05,847 --> 00:30:08,545
<i>and we have seen
these sort of protests,</i>

575
00:30:08,719 --> 00:30:14,029
<i>but they've historically been
confined to small milieus.</i>

576
00:30:14,943 --> 00:30:16,815
It had gotten more brazen
and larger over the years,

577
00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:19,469
but all of a sudden
it really became big.

578
00:30:19,643 --> 00:30:22,298
PROTESTERS:
We demand liberation!

579
00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:24,039
VIDINO:
<i>There has been a growing ability</i>

580
00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:28,130
<i>of that small group
of Hamas sympathizers</i>

581
00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:32,395
<i>and pro-Palestinian advocates
to create synergies</i>

582
00:30:32,569 --> 00:30:35,616
and alliances
with fellow travelers.

583
00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,794
FAY: <i>Students for Justice
in Palestine have,</i>

584
00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:42,666
in my view,
manipulated and come

585
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:46,235
to capitalize on
the very real grievances

586
00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:48,585
<i>of our Black community,</i>

587
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,023
<i>our Indigenous community,</i>

588
00:30:51,197 --> 00:30:53,503
<i>our queer community,</i>

589
00:30:53,677 --> 00:30:56,028
<i>and the rights of other
marginalized identities.</i>

590
00:30:56,202 --> 00:30:58,552
DEMONSTRATORS:
Free, free, free Palestine!

591
00:30:58,726 --> 00:31:00,554
FAY: <i>SJP is showing
our Barnard students</i>

592
00:31:00,728 --> 00:31:02,817
that if you join this movement,

593
00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:04,732
then you're
behaving righteously.

594
00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:06,647
You're doing the correct thing.

595
00:31:11,086 --> 00:31:13,915
ROMIROWSKY: <i>The Palestinian
narrative through the narrative</i>

596
00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:17,092
<i>of intersectionality has</i>

597
00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:20,139
hijacked every underdog cause
in the world.

598
00:31:27,189 --> 00:31:31,628
If you are perceived to be
yourself as an oppressed group,

599
00:31:31,802 --> 00:31:33,587
you also have to support
the Palestinian cause

600
00:31:33,761 --> 00:31:36,111
because they
are the gold standard

601
00:31:36,285 --> 00:31:39,680
of oppression within the pyramid
of oppressed groups.

602
00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:43,684
VIDINO: <i>So when you put
all these elements together,</i>

603
00:31:43,858 --> 00:31:45,425
<i>you have the perfect storm</i>

604
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:47,079
<i>because you have the ability</i>

605
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:51,344
<i>of that pro-Hamas,
pro-resistance crowd</i>

606
00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:55,478
<i>to repackage the Hamas narrative</i>

607
00:31:55,652 --> 00:31:58,090
and mobilize the allies
they have made over time.

608
00:31:58,264 --> 00:32:01,658
<i>It was fringe ten, 15 years ago.</i>

609
00:32:01,832 --> 00:32:03,922
<i>It's quite mainstream</i>

610
00:32:04,096 --> 00:32:06,750
at least on college campuses
these days.

611
00:32:07,751 --> 00:32:09,884
ROMIROWSKY: <i>Even though
they're coming from the right</i>

612
00:32:10,058 --> 00:32:12,582
<i>and the left,
all of these groups are willing</i>

613
00:32:12,756 --> 00:32:15,890
to put aside their differences

614
00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:20,329
<i>and they're willing to converge
because of their hatred</i>

615
00:32:20,503 --> 00:32:22,766
<i>and trying to turn the West
on its head.</i>

616
00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:24,943
<i>This is Hamas in America.</i>

617
00:32:25,117 --> 00:32:27,162
♪ ♪

618
00:32:36,693 --> 00:32:38,391
MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF:
<i>Not many people</i>

619
00:32:38,565 --> 00:32:40,915
know Hamas as I know Hamas.

620
00:32:41,089 --> 00:32:43,309
<i>My father,</i>

621
00:32:43,483 --> 00:32:47,661
<i>he was a big shot and he's
still a big shot in Hamas.</i>

622
00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:50,707
REPORTER: <i>For ten years, Mosab
worked undercover for Israel.</i>

623
00:32:50,881 --> 00:32:53,536
<i>Israel's internal
security service,</i>

624
00:32:53,710 --> 00:32:55,756
<i>the Shin Bet, considered him
its most valuable source</i>

625
00:32:55,930 --> 00:32:58,367
<i>within the Hamas
leadership.</i>

626
00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:00,065
YOUSEF: <i>For many years,
when people ask me</i>

627
00:33:00,239 --> 00:33:03,024
<i>about the Middle East,
I did not talk about it</i>

628
00:33:03,198 --> 00:33:04,939
<i>because I thought
I was done with it.</i>

629
00:33:05,113 --> 00:33:08,029
<i>But when October 7th happened,
I had no choice</i>

630
00:33:08,203 --> 00:33:11,337
but to take
my moral responsibility.

631
00:33:11,511 --> 00:33:13,513
[indistinct shouting]

632
00:33:13,687 --> 00:33:17,996
<i>Hamas' ultimate goal is
to establish an Islamic state.</i>

633
00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:20,520
<i>Their fight is not over
territory.</i>

634
00:33:35,622 --> 00:33:40,583
<i>They thought by jumping on
the Palestinian cause,</i>

635
00:33:40,757 --> 00:33:44,848
it's an effective way
to fan the flame

636
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:48,504
of nationalism, in order to get

637
00:33:48,678 --> 00:33:52,378
to their religious agendas.

638
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:57,122
<i>If Israel does not
defeat Hamas in Gaza,</i>

639
00:33:57,296 --> 00:34:02,127
<i>Hamas will prove to all other
Islamists around the world</i>

640
00:34:02,301 --> 00:34:07,175
<i>that it was possible to bring
a democracy on its knees.</i>

641
00:34:07,349 --> 00:34:11,832
<i>And any Hamas win
will not be only a threat</i>

642
00:34:12,006 --> 00:34:14,313
<i>to the state of Israel
and to the Jewish people.</i>

643
00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:19,927
<i>It will be a threat against
all civilized people</i>

644
00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:24,888
who want to live in harmony,
who believe in tolerance,

645
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:28,849
who believe in peaceful dialogue

646
00:34:29,023 --> 00:34:32,809
with their neighbors,
who believe in diversity.

647
00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:36,291
And Hamas is anti all that.

648
00:34:43,385 --> 00:34:46,084
<i>Since October 7th, all this mob,</i>

649
00:34:46,258 --> 00:34:48,869
<i>the angry people you saw
on the streets,</i>

650
00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:51,524
<i>they want to globalize
the intifada.</i>

651
00:34:55,571 --> 00:35:01,011
<i>Globalizing intifada
means global disorder.</i>

652
00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:04,406
<i>People define it as uprise,
but it is not.</i>

653
00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:08,149
<i>My definition of intifada
is chaos.</i>

654
00:35:08,323 --> 00:35:09,672
[cheering]

655
00:35:09,846 --> 00:35:11,805
<i>People here in the West,</i>

656
00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:13,415
what they don't understand

657
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:16,897
that shortly after adapting

658
00:35:17,071 --> 00:35:18,986
<i>the concept of intifada...</i>

659
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,554
ALL:
Globalize the intifada!

660
00:35:21,728 --> 00:35:22,859
...violence will follow.

661
00:35:25,297 --> 00:35:27,081
<i>Killing,</i>

662
00:35:27,255 --> 00:35:28,691
<i>mass shooting,</i>

663
00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:31,085
<i>bus derailing,</i>

664
00:35:31,259 --> 00:35:32,521
<i>suicide bombings.</i>

665
00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:36,177
<i>It's anti-civilization.</i>

666
00:35:36,351 --> 00:35:39,615
So, to bring intifada
to the United States?

667
00:35:39,789 --> 00:35:42,575
Intifada contradicts
with the American Constitution.

668
00:35:42,749 --> 00:35:48,885
Intifada contradicts with all
the values of the free world.

669
00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:57,677
SENOR: <i>Less than two weeks
after October 7th,</i>

670
00:35:57,851 --> 00:35:59,983
The New York Times
<i>posts an article saying</i>

671
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:01,898
<i>this hospital's been bombed.</i>

672
00:36:02,072 --> 00:36:03,639
<i>Within minutes of it,
quote, unquote, "being bombed,"</i>

673
00:36:03,813 --> 00:36:05,989
<i>they already know
how many casualties there were.</i>

674
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:08,862
Buried in the piece was, to me,

675
00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:10,951
the most revealing part
of the article.

676
00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:14,259
<i>The IDF does not believe
it was responsible,</i>

677
00:36:14,433 --> 00:36:16,957
<i>but is looking into it
to get to the bottom of it.</i>

678
00:36:17,131 --> 00:36:19,046
And <i>The New York Times</i> said,
"Sorry,

679
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:20,874
"we don't have time
for you to get back to us.

680
00:36:21,048 --> 00:36:22,919
We'll take the Hamas version."

681
00:36:23,093 --> 00:36:25,270
And then boom, it goes out
to <i>The New York Times--</i>

682
00:36:25,444 --> 00:36:26,880
seven, eight million
subscribers,

683
00:36:27,054 --> 00:36:28,925
notifications
on everyone's phone.

684
00:36:33,495 --> 00:36:35,105
Intelligence from few sources

685
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,239
that we have in our hands
indicates

686
00:36:38,413 --> 00:36:40,720
that the Islamic Jihad
is responsible

687
00:36:40,894 --> 00:36:42,548
for the failed rocket launch,

688
00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:44,724
which hit the hospital in Gaza.

689
00:36:44,898 --> 00:36:48,162
Soon after, the IDF
and the State Department

690
00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:50,556
and other news organizations
started to put together

691
00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:52,514
that it wasn't Israel.

692
00:36:52,688 --> 00:36:55,300
I need to show you what
<i>The New York Times</i> just did.

693
00:36:55,474 --> 00:36:57,606
They updated their headline
three times.

694
00:36:57,780 --> 00:36:59,304
<i>The first headline says,</i>

695
00:36:59,478 --> 00:37:01,262
<i>"Israeli Strike
Kills Hundreds in Hospital."</i>

696
00:37:01,436 --> 00:37:03,090
<i>The next headline says,</i>

697
00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:06,659
<i>"At Least 500 Dead in Strike
on Gaza Hospital."</i>

698
00:37:06,833 --> 00:37:10,489
<i>The third one says,
"At Least 500 Dead in Blast."</i>

699
00:37:10,663 --> 00:37:11,577
When it's Hamas--

700
00:37:11,751 --> 00:37:12,752
they realize it's Hamas--

701
00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:13,796
it's no longer a strike,

702
00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:15,668
it's just a blast.

703
00:37:15,842 --> 00:37:17,191
We're learning more today

704
00:37:17,365 --> 00:37:19,324
about that explosion
at a Gaza city hospital.

705
00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:21,630
REPORTER:
<i>Israel released what it says is</i>

706
00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:25,155
<i>an intercepted conversation
between two militants.</i>

707
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,202
<i>"It's from us?" asks one.</i>

708
00:37:28,376 --> 00:37:30,900
<i>"It looks like it,"
replies the other.</i>

709
00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:32,815
<i>SENOR:
After</i> The New York Times

710
00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:35,557
<i>jumped the gun,
they said they were wrong,</i>

711
00:37:35,731 --> 00:37:37,516
<i>but it was too late.</i>

712
00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:41,041
<i>God knows how many TikTok videos
were created</i>

713
00:37:41,215 --> 00:37:43,086
and circulating
off that headline.

714
00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,132
And there we go.

715
00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:47,177
RASHIDA TLAIB:
To bomb a hospital...

716
00:37:48,396 --> 00:37:50,833
...where children...

717
00:37:51,007 --> 00:37:54,402
HEN MAZZIG: <i>People don't
really notice the correction.</i>

718
00:37:54,576 --> 00:37:56,404
<i>They hear some headline that</i>

719
00:37:56,578 --> 00:37:59,189
<i>triggers this
emotional response.</i>

720
00:37:59,364 --> 00:38:01,322
<i>Protests erupted
around the world,</i>

721
00:38:01,496 --> 00:38:03,672
calling to kill the Jews,
attack the Jews.

722
00:38:06,371 --> 00:38:09,069
MAZZIG: <i>One of the most
important symbols for my family</i>

723
00:38:09,243 --> 00:38:11,767
in Tunisia,
the oldest Jewish synagogue,

724
00:38:11,941 --> 00:38:14,030
<i>was burned to the ground.</i>

725
00:38:16,729 --> 00:38:18,383
Wasn't just the media
that ran with the story.

726
00:38:18,557 --> 00:38:19,732
Leading NGOs--

727
00:38:19,906 --> 00:38:22,865
<i>Human Rights Watch,</i>

728
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,694
<i>Amnesty International,</i>

729
00:38:25,868 --> 00:38:28,436
<i>the Red Cross
on their Twitter account,</i>

730
00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,264
<i>the World Health Organization--</i>

731
00:38:30,438 --> 00:38:34,355
<i>all of them were pushing out
the false story.</i>

732
00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:37,706
<i>So the demonization of Israel
is not only being put out</i>

733
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,796
<i>by governments that have
their own self-interests,</i>

734
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:42,755
<i>but human rights groups,</i>

735
00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:45,105
which should have
no particular interest--

736
00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:47,499
they're acting by ideology.

737
00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:50,110
DANIELLE HAAS:
<i>Human Rights Watch has become,</i>

738
00:38:50,284 --> 00:38:52,155
<i>in recent years,</i>

739
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,028
<i>one of the world's major
human rights organizations,</i>

740
00:38:55,202 --> 00:38:57,857
<i>both in size and influence.</i>

741
00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,860
<i>As the senior editor,
I oversaw the production</i>

742
00:39:01,034 --> 00:39:03,079
<i>of the World Report, which was</i>

743
00:39:03,253 --> 00:39:05,212
annual review
of human rights abuses

744
00:39:05,386 --> 00:39:07,693
in more than 100 countries
around the world.

745
00:39:08,868 --> 00:39:10,652
<i>On October the 7th,</i>

746
00:39:10,826 --> 00:39:13,438
<i>I was the only Jewish</i>

747
00:39:13,612 --> 00:39:17,833
Israeli staff member in
the 600-plus-strong organization

748
00:39:18,007 --> 00:39:20,575
<i>who actually lived in Israel.</i>

749
00:39:20,749 --> 00:39:25,493
<i>The first public response by
the organization was a tweet.</i>

750
00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:29,192
<i>It was not unequivocal
condemnation</i>

751
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:31,760
<i>of the massacre
that had just happened.</i>

752
00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:34,937
<i>It was wrapped up with
the language of apartheid</i>

753
00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:36,809
<i>and oppression.</i>

754
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,421
[notification chimes]

755
00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:43,598
<i>It was my first indication
that something was kind of awry</i>

756
00:39:43,772 --> 00:39:45,557
of not only my organization,

757
00:39:45,731 --> 00:39:47,385
but rather many organizations.

758
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,430
<i>Failing to call a spade a spade,</i>

759
00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:52,868
<i>calling a massacre
a "military offensive"</i>

760
00:39:53,042 --> 00:39:55,218
<i>or an "escalation in violence."</i>

761
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,525
<i>I think what really tipped me
over the edge</i>

762
00:39:57,699 --> 00:40:00,223
<i>was this meeting
on October the 23rd.</i>

763
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,922
<i>There was a great deal
of space given</i>

764
00:40:03,096 --> 00:40:05,620
<i>to what was going on in Gaza.</i>

765
00:40:05,794 --> 00:40:09,711
<i>And not one mention was made
of a Jewish Israeli victim</i>

766
00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:12,627
<i>or a hostage.</i>

767
00:40:12,801 --> 00:40:14,803
<i>It felt sinister.</i>

768
00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:20,374
I had a very strong visceral,
physical reaction

769
00:40:20,548 --> 00:40:23,508
after that meeting.
I was in a public space.

770
00:40:23,682 --> 00:40:27,207
I shut my computer
and I-I-I went hysterical.

771
00:40:27,381 --> 00:40:30,602
I just, I-I just,
I just kneeled by a wall

772
00:40:30,776 --> 00:40:35,433
and I-I was really, I don't--
I was really upset

773
00:40:35,607 --> 00:40:38,087
because it just seemed
like something

774
00:40:38,261 --> 00:40:41,613
profoundly wrong had engulfed
the organization.

775
00:40:41,787 --> 00:40:44,224
♪ ♪

776
00:40:44,398 --> 00:40:47,314
<i>I was there
for 13 and a half years,</i>

777
00:40:47,488 --> 00:40:50,056
<i>and when I left
Human Rights Watch,</i>

778
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:53,886
<i>I wrote an internal email
laying out what I thought</i>

779
00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:58,194
<i>was so problematic about
its Israel/Palestine work.</i>

780
00:40:58,368 --> 00:41:02,808
<i>They have had a conscious
strategy to establish</i>

781
00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:06,899
<i>in the public mind that Israel
is an apartheid state.</i>

782
00:41:07,073 --> 00:41:08,422
We're here precisely because

783
00:41:08,596 --> 00:41:12,470
of years of impunity
for grave abuses,

784
00:41:12,644 --> 00:41:14,254
including Israel's apartheid
against Palestinians.

785
00:41:14,428 --> 00:41:16,169
HAAS:
<i>There were individuals</i>

786
00:41:16,343 --> 00:41:18,606
<i>that were slowly beginning
to absorb others</i>

787
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:22,523
into really seeing Israel
as some sort of exceptional

788
00:41:22,697 --> 00:41:25,657
<i>demonic country
amongst all others.</i>

789
00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:29,051
<i>It flattened all complexities
about Israel.</i>

790
00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:32,054
These organizations
are now conflated,

791
00:41:32,228 --> 00:41:33,273
by virtue of
their moral message,

792
00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:36,189
with being moral themselves.

793
00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:39,540
<i>And I think
conscientious people think</i>

794
00:41:39,714 --> 00:41:42,369
<i>we are getting this
from a reputable source.</i>

795
00:41:42,543 --> 00:41:45,328
If a human rights organization
is saying it,

796
00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:47,069
it must be true.

797
00:41:47,243 --> 00:41:51,247
And that's an incredibly
dangerous assumption to make.

798
00:41:51,421 --> 00:41:54,120
♪ ♪

799
00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:03,172
MESSING:
<i>We went to Times Square</i>

800
00:42:03,346 --> 00:42:07,089
<i>and we hung posters
of all the hostages.</i>

801
00:42:20,146 --> 00:42:23,889
<i>People stayed away,
but they were taking it in.</i>

802
00:42:24,063 --> 00:42:25,978
And I thought, "Good...

803
00:42:27,153 --> 00:42:29,068
<i>"...just take it in,</i>

804
00:42:29,242 --> 00:42:31,244
just do not
forget the hostages."

805
00:42:33,028 --> 00:42:34,464
Children, it's innocent people.

806
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,076
Okay, what about the children
in Palestine?

807
00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:38,556
They're not innocent civilians

808
00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:40,296
if they're profiting
from the genocide.

809
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:41,907
You just ripped off a kid.

810
00:42:42,081 --> 00:42:43,430
I thought you said
the kids are-are innocent.

811
00:42:43,604 --> 00:42:45,693
SENOR: <i>The infamous image
of the posters</i>

812
00:42:45,867 --> 00:42:49,131
of the hostages
being torn down was, to me,

813
00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,612
one of the most powerful
events to happen so soon

814
00:42:51,786 --> 00:42:53,440
after October 7th.

815
00:42:53,614 --> 00:42:56,661
<i>And that's when I started
to say, "Wait a minute.</i>

816
00:42:56,835 --> 00:42:59,228
<i>Something is really wrong here."</i>

817
00:42:59,402 --> 00:43:00,839
You're taking
the kidnapped posters down.

818
00:43:01,013 --> 00:43:02,928
'Cause fuck Israel. That's why.

819
00:43:05,278 --> 00:43:06,671
MESSING: Please stop
ripping our posters down.

820
00:43:06,845 --> 00:43:08,586
These are innocent civilians
in Israel.

821
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,413
[bleep] you and Israel.

822
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:12,111
MESSING:
<i>There was so much happening,</i>

823
00:43:12,285 --> 00:43:14,504
<i>all of these horrendous
narratives,</i>

824
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:18,508
<i>that the hostages were being
completely forgotten.</i>

825
00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:23,775
<i>We sent out a letter,</i>

826
00:43:23,949 --> 00:43:25,167
a plea

827
00:43:25,341 --> 00:43:26,691
<i>to our government</i>

828
00:43:26,865 --> 00:43:28,170
<i>and all governments
around the world</i>

829
00:43:28,344 --> 00:43:30,216
<i>to prioritize</i>

830
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:33,349
getting the hostages back.

831
00:43:36,483 --> 00:43:39,355
<i>And people wouldn't sign it.</i>

832
00:43:40,052 --> 00:43:45,013
I thought that there would be
an army of activists

833
00:43:45,187 --> 00:43:48,800
and celebrities
who would be out,

834
00:43:48,974 --> 00:43:52,847
<i>and I felt completely</i>

835
00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:56,372
<i>betrayed by Hollywood.</i>

836
00:43:56,546 --> 00:43:59,506
The hostages must come home.

837
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,639
Free every single one of them.

838
00:44:01,813 --> 00:44:04,424
<i>I spoke at the rally
in Washington, D.C.,</i>

839
00:44:04,598 --> 00:44:07,688
and I was so humbly appreciative

840
00:44:07,862 --> 00:44:10,299
with the response
of the way I spoke.

841
00:44:10,473 --> 00:44:12,475
And I appreciate you guys.
Thank you.

842
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:15,087
I know where I am
on the pecking order.

843
00:44:15,261 --> 00:44:19,482
There's so many other bigger
names, bigger celebrities,

844
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:21,484
<i>the fact that I,</i>

845
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:25,793
<i>Michael Rapaport,
was the big Hollywood name</i>

846
00:44:25,967 --> 00:44:27,186
outside from the great

847
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,622
<i>Debra Messing,</i>

848
00:44:28,796 --> 00:44:30,798
<i>it's some real fucking</i>

849
00:44:30,972 --> 00:44:33,453
disappointing fucking shit.

850
00:44:35,063 --> 00:44:37,413
<i>Hollywood celebrities</i>

851
00:44:37,587 --> 00:44:39,720
speak out about
so many different things.

852
00:44:39,894 --> 00:44:44,682
<i>If it isn't the planet,
Black Lives Matter, Ukraine,</i>

853
00:44:44,856 --> 00:44:47,728
<i>LGBTQ, trans community,</i>

854
00:44:47,902 --> 00:44:50,513
<i>inclusion, diversity.</i>

855
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:52,994
But if you're gonna say things
about trees being cut down

856
00:44:53,168 --> 00:44:55,431
and penguins dying,

857
00:44:55,605 --> 00:44:57,303
you should be ashamed
of yourself not saying anything

858
00:44:57,477 --> 00:44:59,392
<i>about the fact
that there's hostages.</i>

859
00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:01,133
<i>Just that.</i>

860
00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:05,703
MURRAY: <i>About ten years ago,
I covered the conflict</i>

861
00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:09,097
in northern Nigeria,
which is where,

862
00:45:09,271 --> 00:45:12,318
<i>famously, the Chibok
schoolgirls were abducted</i>

863
00:45:12,492 --> 00:45:15,016
<i>by Boko Haram,
an Islamist group very,</i>

864
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:17,584
very similar to Hamas.

865
00:45:17,758 --> 00:45:20,892
<i>There was a huge campaign
internationally,</i>

866
00:45:21,066 --> 00:45:22,676
<i>"Bring Back Our Girls."</i>

867
00:45:26,549 --> 00:45:28,682
♪ ♪

868
00:45:28,856 --> 00:45:33,426
When Israeli children
were abducted,

869
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,994
<i>silence from the world.</i>

870
00:45:36,864 --> 00:45:39,911
I know that many of my peers
faced with so much hatred

871
00:45:40,085 --> 00:45:43,741
and anti-Semitism on campus
are feeling helpless

872
00:45:43,915 --> 00:45:45,960
and hopeless.

873
00:45:46,134 --> 00:45:49,877
<i>As I started speaking out,
Barnard students were</i>

874
00:45:50,051 --> 00:45:52,924
calling me names and saying
that I-I support terrorism

875
00:45:53,098 --> 00:45:55,753
and that I support genocide
because I'm a Zionist

876
00:45:55,927 --> 00:45:58,103
and that my residents are afraid

877
00:45:58,277 --> 00:46:00,235
to have a Zionist RA
on their floor

878
00:46:00,409 --> 00:46:02,324
<i>and they don't feel safe.</i>

879
00:46:02,498 --> 00:46:03,935
<i>Students started harassing me</i>

880
00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:05,414
<i>in the middle of the night,</i>

881
00:46:05,588 --> 00:46:08,069
<i>banging on my door.</i>

882
00:46:08,243 --> 00:46:12,595
<i>I felt a sense of isolation.
Honestly,</i>

883
00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:16,774
I-I really, I did fall
into a very deep depression.

884
00:46:16,948 --> 00:46:19,298
No one expected
the United States

885
00:46:19,472 --> 00:46:22,649
to enter into a ceasefire
with the Empire of Japan

886
00:46:22,823 --> 00:46:25,217
when 2,400 Americans
were murdered in Pearl Harbor.

887
00:46:25,391 --> 00:46:27,045
[crowd cheering]

888
00:46:27,219 --> 00:46:31,092
No one expected the United
States to enter into a ceasefire

889
00:46:31,266 --> 00:46:34,269
with Al-Qaeda and the Taliban
when 3,000 Americans

890
00:46:34,443 --> 00:46:36,402
were murdered on 9/11.

891
00:46:36,576 --> 00:46:39,448
And so, those who insist

892
00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:43,017
that Israel should
no longer defend itself

893
00:46:43,191 --> 00:46:45,628
are holding the Jewish state
to a dangerous double standard

894
00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:47,500
that no other country,

895
00:46:47,674 --> 00:46:50,242
including the United States,
would ever impose on itself.

896
00:46:50,416 --> 00:46:52,592
[crowd cheers]

897
00:46:52,766 --> 00:46:54,507
TORRES:
<i>I'm commonly asked</i>

898
00:46:54,681 --> 00:46:57,336
<i>why would a gay Black Latino</i>

899
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:59,207
from the South Bronx speak out

900
00:46:59,381 --> 00:47:01,427
so forcefully
against anti-Semitism?

901
00:47:01,601 --> 00:47:05,257
<i>The right question is,
why have others chosen silence</i>

902
00:47:05,431 --> 00:47:07,041
<i>amid the deadliest
day for Jews</i>

903
00:47:07,215 --> 00:47:08,477
since the Holocaust?

904
00:47:08,651 --> 00:47:11,002
<i>Dr. King once said</i>

905
00:47:11,176 --> 00:47:14,483
<i>that the greatest tragedy is
not only the striding clamor</i>

906
00:47:14,657 --> 00:47:16,224
<i>of the bad people,</i>

907
00:47:16,398 --> 00:47:18,836
but it's the appalling
silence of the good people.

908
00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:22,361
<i>And what we've seen
after October 7th</i>

909
00:47:22,535 --> 00:47:25,320
<i>is widespread silence
and indifference</i>

910
00:47:25,494 --> 00:47:28,889
and cowardice from so-called
leaders in our society,

911
00:47:29,063 --> 00:47:31,457
from college and university
presidents and deans,

912
00:47:31,631 --> 00:47:33,459
from self-proclaimed
progressives

913
00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:35,374
and human rights activists.

914
00:47:35,548 --> 00:47:36,984
[notification chimes]

915
00:47:37,158 --> 00:47:40,031
<i>When I express
an opinion on Twitter</i>

916
00:47:40,205 --> 00:47:42,337
<i>that Israel has a right
to exist as a Jewish state</i>

917
00:47:42,511 --> 00:47:44,731
<i>and to be a sanctuary
for the Jewish people,</i>

918
00:47:44,905 --> 00:47:47,865
<i>what often follows
is an endless stream</i>

919
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:52,739
<i>of anti-Semitic,
homophobic, racist hate.</i>

920
00:47:54,567 --> 00:47:57,918
<i>There's no issue on which
I face more harassment</i>

921
00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:01,008
<i>and death threats than
on the subject of Israel.</i>

922
00:48:01,182 --> 00:48:02,967
<i>It's terrifying.</i>

923
00:48:03,141 --> 00:48:05,665
<i>Social media enables</i>

924
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:09,495
the virus of anti-Semitism
to spread on a scale

925
00:48:09,669 --> 00:48:13,803
and at a pace and to an extent
that we've never seen before.

926
00:48:13,978 --> 00:48:15,544
♪ ♪

927
00:48:15,718 --> 00:48:17,285
[notification chimes]

928
00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:22,551
SEGAL: <i>For over 20 years,
I've been tracking</i>

929
00:48:22,725 --> 00:48:25,903
<i>extremist movements across
the ideological spectrum.</i>

930
00:48:26,077 --> 00:48:29,080
<i>I remember in the first
three weeks after October 7th,</i>

931
00:48:29,254 --> 00:48:30,908
<i>in the online spaces</i>

932
00:48:31,082 --> 00:48:34,389
that we monitor for...
for just threats against Jews,

933
00:48:34,563 --> 00:48:36,783
we saw a 400% increase.

934
00:48:37,479 --> 00:48:42,136
MICHAEL MASTERS: <i>Fantasies
of violence, rape fantasies,</i>

935
00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:44,704
<i>mutilation fantasies,</i>

936
00:48:44,878 --> 00:48:46,924
<i>statements of, "I'm gonna go</i>

937
00:48:47,098 --> 00:48:48,664
"into a synagogue

938
00:48:48,838 --> 00:48:52,016
and blow off the heads of
as many Jews as I can find."

939
00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:56,063
That level of visualization
of violence

940
00:48:56,237 --> 00:48:58,196
we've now seen
become much more common

941
00:48:58,370 --> 00:49:00,720
and normalized.

942
00:49:01,416 --> 00:49:04,158
SEGAL: <i>When Jews die,
a lot of people get excited.</i>

943
00:49:04,332 --> 00:49:07,727
<i>That is not uncommon
on social media platforms.</i>

944
00:49:07,901 --> 00:49:10,034
<i>But then we started seeing</i>

945
00:49:10,208 --> 00:49:12,906
how certain online platforms

946
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,561
were creating almost
like a connective

947
00:49:15,735 --> 00:49:19,130
online space for "activists"

948
00:49:19,304 --> 00:49:21,393
<i>and terrorists.</i>

949
00:49:21,567 --> 00:49:23,525
<i>Not only is there
calls for events</i>

950
00:49:23,699 --> 00:49:27,051
<i>by American
anti-Israel activists,</i>

951
00:49:27,225 --> 00:49:32,012
<i>but, like, Hamas communiques
and other terrorist propaganda.</i>

952
00:49:32,186 --> 00:49:35,363
[singing "Hezbollah
Hezbollah Hezbollah"]

953
00:49:35,537 --> 00:49:38,192
<i>I mean, it's mixing it all up</i>

954
00:49:38,366 --> 00:49:41,065
<i>so that people don't even
recognize what is extremist</i>

955
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,631
<i>and anti-Semitic anymore,</i>

956
00:49:42,805 --> 00:49:45,721
'cause it's all existing
in the same space.

957
00:49:47,201 --> 00:49:49,769
<i>I mean, let's just face it,
the imagery</i>

958
00:49:49,943 --> 00:49:52,380
<i>and the language of revolution
and of change</i>

959
00:49:52,554 --> 00:49:56,602
<i>that they're putting into
their pro-terror narratives,</i>

960
00:49:56,776 --> 00:49:59,605
<i>it creates something that is
intriguing to people.</i>

961
00:50:01,433 --> 00:50:04,740
<i>It doesn't get more clear
than the immediate embrace</i>

962
00:50:04,914 --> 00:50:08,918
<i>of iconography from that day.</i>

963
00:50:10,398 --> 00:50:12,183
<i>So whether it was paragliders</i>

964
00:50:12,357 --> 00:50:14,924
<i>that were appearing
on event notices</i>

965
00:50:15,099 --> 00:50:17,144
<i>to protest Israel</i>

966
00:50:17,318 --> 00:50:19,581
<i>or red triangles.</i>

967
00:50:21,235 --> 00:50:23,324
A red triangle is used
in Hamas propaganda

968
00:50:23,498 --> 00:50:24,891
to show Israeli targets

969
00:50:25,065 --> 00:50:26,849
<i>before they are killed.</i>

970
00:50:27,024 --> 00:50:28,590
♪ ♪

971
00:50:30,331 --> 00:50:34,640
[explosions]

972
00:50:34,814 --> 00:50:38,992
This red triangle
was "reappropriated"

973
00:50:39,166 --> 00:50:41,777
<i>by pro-Palestinian groups
as a symbol of resistance.</i>

974
00:50:46,956 --> 00:50:48,784
SEGAL:
<i>The use of that red triangle now</i>

975
00:50:48,958 --> 00:50:50,743
is-is almost like a threat.

976
00:50:50,917 --> 00:50:52,701
If somebody is being pro-Israel,

977
00:50:52,875 --> 00:50:54,529
you just reply
with the red triangle

978
00:50:54,703 --> 00:50:56,749
as a substitute
for the funny words

979
00:50:56,923 --> 00:50:59,143
that social media
won't let me say anymore.

980
00:50:59,317 --> 00:51:01,841
SEGAL: <i>It connotes that
this is a legitimate target</i>

981
00:51:02,015 --> 00:51:03,930
<i>for this protest movement</i>

982
00:51:04,104 --> 00:51:05,801
<i>because they are
either perceived to be,</i>

983
00:51:05,975 --> 00:51:08,848
<i>you know, Jewish or Zionists
or pro-Israel.</i>

984
00:51:09,022 --> 00:51:10,893
GALLOWAY: <i>70% of people
my age support Israel.</i>

985
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:13,592
And the reality is 20%
of people under the age of 25

986
00:51:13,766 --> 00:51:16,073
support Israel.

987
00:51:16,247 --> 00:51:17,900
We've never seen this sort
of generational divide

988
00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:19,554
on a conflict.

989
00:51:19,728 --> 00:51:20,860
And the question is, well,
why is it happening?

990
00:51:21,034 --> 00:51:22,688
♪ ♪

991
00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:25,778
<i>If you go on TikTok,
for every one video that's</i>

992
00:51:25,952 --> 00:51:29,390
<i>served to young people
that is pro-Israeli,</i>

993
00:51:29,564 --> 00:51:31,610
there's 54 pro-Hamas

994
00:51:31,784 --> 00:51:33,655
and pro-Palestine videos served.

995
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:35,831
54 to 1.

996
00:51:36,528 --> 00:51:38,356
<i>So you might say, "Well,
Scott, you're being paranoid.</i>

997
00:51:38,530 --> 00:51:40,314
<i>"This is just a function,
a reflection of</i>

998
00:51:40,488 --> 00:51:42,316
<i>how young people feel who've
come to their own conclusions."</i>

999
00:51:42,490 --> 00:51:45,145
<i>It's not.
The ratio is wildly skewed.</i>

1000
00:51:45,319 --> 00:51:48,540
<i>Any thoughtful analysis of
what is going on here</i>

1001
00:51:48,714 --> 00:51:51,412
<i>is basically saying the people
controlling the algorithms</i>

1002
00:51:51,586 --> 00:51:52,935
<i>at TikTok</i>

1003
00:51:53,110 --> 00:51:55,764
have decided it is
in their interests

1004
00:51:55,938 --> 00:51:59,855
to get young people more
pro-Palestine and pro-Hamas.

1005
00:52:04,991 --> 00:52:07,907
MASTERS: <i>Foreign state
and non-state actors</i>

1006
00:52:08,081 --> 00:52:12,216
are trying to influence
and foment hate,

1007
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:14,392
extremism, anti-Semitism.

1008
00:52:14,566 --> 00:52:17,395
And to include anti-American,
anti-Western,

1009
00:52:17,569 --> 00:52:19,223
anti-U.S. sentiment.

1010
00:52:19,397 --> 00:52:22,443
GALLOWAY: <i>If the Chinese
Communist Party owned Sky,</i>

1011
00:52:22,617 --> 00:52:28,275
<i>the BBC, ABC, NBC, Netflix,
Amazon Prime, Apple TV+,</i>

1012
00:52:28,449 --> 00:52:30,016
would we be okay with that?

1013
00:52:30,190 --> 00:52:33,541
Because they do for people
under the age of 25.

1014
00:52:35,369 --> 00:52:38,198
VEKSLER: <i>People my age
do not read the news.</i>

1015
00:52:38,372 --> 00:52:40,026
<i>They do not read books.
They do not read</i>

1016
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,115
scholarly articles.
They watch short-form content

1017
00:52:42,289 --> 00:52:44,987
on apps like TikTok
and Instagram

1018
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:47,990
and they take what they see
to be true.

1019
00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:50,863
The fact that we have put
the leading news source

1020
00:52:51,037 --> 00:52:54,432
for the most impressionable
minds in our society,

1021
00:52:54,606 --> 00:52:56,825
in the hands of our leading
foreign adversary...

1022
00:52:56,999 --> 00:52:59,176
Like, historians
will remember that

1023
00:52:59,350 --> 00:53:01,395
as a colossal strategic
miscalculation

1024
00:53:01,569 --> 00:53:03,049
that we will live to regret.

1025
00:53:03,223 --> 00:53:06,313
MASTERS:
<i>Iran, North Korea, China</i>

1026
00:53:06,487 --> 00:53:09,795
<i>and Russia are amongst
the largest</i>

1027
00:53:09,969 --> 00:53:12,145
<i>and perhaps
most dangerous of those</i>

1028
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:14,103
that are actively engaged
in fomenting misinformation,

1029
00:53:14,278 --> 00:53:15,801
disinformation,

1030
00:53:15,975 --> 00:53:18,195
<i>seeding the world
of the online space</i>

1031
00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:20,327
<i>with deepfakes</i>

1032
00:53:20,501 --> 00:53:24,853
<i>and false narratives in order
to sow division and distrust.</i>

1033
00:53:25,027 --> 00:53:28,814
It impacts the national security
of-of our country

1034
00:53:28,988 --> 00:53:31,077
and the stability
of Western democracy.

1035
00:53:31,251 --> 00:53:33,819
Raise your hands
if you're a Zionist!

1036
00:53:33,993 --> 00:53:35,647
OTHERS: Raise your hands
if you're a Zionist!

1037
00:53:35,821 --> 00:53:38,215
This is your chance to get out.

1038
00:53:38,389 --> 00:53:40,042
REPORTER:
<i>Flags of terror groups</i>

1039
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:41,827
<i>Hamas and Hezbollah were waved.</i>

1040
00:53:42,001 --> 00:53:44,612
<i>Another saying,
"Long live October 7th."</i>

1041
00:53:44,786 --> 00:53:49,356
Last year we had over
500 incidents reported to us

1042
00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:51,924
<i>that occurred
on college campuses.</i>

1043
00:53:52,098 --> 00:53:56,276
<i>That was a 141% increase
from the year prior.</i>

1044
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:58,931
<i>62% of those incidents</i>

1045
00:53:59,105 --> 00:54:02,151
<i>occurred in the three months
post October 7th.</i>

1046
00:54:02,326 --> 00:54:07,374
<i>And that pace
has not abated at all.</i>

1047
00:54:08,070 --> 00:54:10,334
SEGAL: <i>What we see online
animates real-world activity</i>

1048
00:54:10,508 --> 00:54:11,900
and both the online space

1049
00:54:12,074 --> 00:54:13,902
and the real-world space

1050
00:54:14,076 --> 00:54:16,470
<i>are so brazen in terms of</i>

1051
00:54:16,644 --> 00:54:19,299
<i>their embrace
of terrorist organizations</i>

1052
00:54:19,473 --> 00:54:22,650
and of denial
of Jewish suffering,

1053
00:54:22,824 --> 00:54:27,220
that my big concern is that
somebody is going to get killed.

1054
00:54:27,394 --> 00:54:28,787
REPORTER:
<i>Violence that turns deadly</i>

1055
00:54:28,961 --> 00:54:30,702
<i>at a pro-Palestinian rally.</i>

1056
00:54:30,876 --> 00:54:32,704
<i>A Jewish man in his 60s
seen here holding the flag</i>

1057
00:54:32,878 --> 00:54:34,967
<i>of Israel one moment,
and the next</i>

1058
00:54:35,141 --> 00:54:37,056
<i>he's down on the ground bleeding</i>

1059
00:54:37,230 --> 00:54:39,232
<i>after being hit in the head
with a megaphone.</i>

1060
00:54:39,406 --> 00:54:41,539
MASTERS:
<i>In the last reporting period,</i>

1061
00:54:41,713 --> 00:54:45,020
<i>over 1,100 religiously motivated</i>

1062
00:54:45,194 --> 00:54:47,066
<i>hate crimes
in the United States</i>

1063
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:48,850
<i>are directed
against the Jewish community.</i>

1064
00:54:49,024 --> 00:54:52,071
The next highest group
was under 150.

1065
00:54:52,245 --> 00:54:55,117
So there is no question
by the data

1066
00:54:55,292 --> 00:54:58,512
that the Jewish community
is the most targeted group

1067
00:54:58,686 --> 00:55:02,124
in the United States
as a religious minority.

1068
00:55:03,125 --> 00:55:04,910
<i>And we are a minority.</i>

1069
00:55:05,084 --> 00:55:09,436
<i>In the United States, we make up
only 2.4% of the population,</i>

1070
00:55:09,610 --> 00:55:13,962
<i>but we are disproportionately
targeted by hate and violence.</i>

1071
00:55:14,136 --> 00:55:16,835
<i>55% of all religiously
motivated hate crimes</i>

1072
00:55:17,009 --> 00:55:18,706
<i>in the United States</i>

1073
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,231
<i>are directed against
the Jewish community.</i>

1074
00:55:23,929 --> 00:55:26,018
[loud banging on glass]

1075
00:55:27,846 --> 00:55:30,631
PROTESTORS [chanting]:
Free, free, free Palestine.

1076
00:55:30,805 --> 00:55:33,286
[chanting continues]

1077
00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:35,897
GREENBLATT: <i>Jewish students
were barricaded in the library</i>

1078
00:55:36,071 --> 00:55:37,769
<i>because of a mob outside</i>

1079
00:55:37,943 --> 00:55:39,423
that banged on the doors

1080
00:55:39,597 --> 00:55:41,338
and yelled,
"Globalize the intifada."

1081
00:55:41,512 --> 00:55:42,948
[loud banging]

1082
00:55:43,122 --> 00:55:45,472
<i>Freedom of speech
is not the freedom</i>

1083
00:55:45,646 --> 00:55:46,908
to incite violence.

1084
00:55:47,082 --> 00:55:48,780
Over the past
few weeks at Cornell,

1085
00:55:48,954 --> 00:55:51,870
there's been a surge
like never before

1086
00:55:52,044 --> 00:55:54,263
in anti-Semitic acts.

1087
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,266
AMANDA SILBERSTEIN:
<i>At Cornell, a student had posted</i>

1088
00:55:57,441 --> 00:55:59,747
<i>on a message board
called Greekrank</i>

1089
00:55:59,921 --> 00:56:02,794
that he wanted
to attack Jews on campus,

1090
00:56:02,968 --> 00:56:05,405
<i>to shoot up
our kosher dining hall,</i>

1091
00:56:05,579 --> 00:56:09,104
<i>to gang-rape
all Jew pig women on campus,</i>

1092
00:56:09,278 --> 00:56:12,107
<i>to follow Jews home
and slit their throats.</i>

1093
00:56:12,281 --> 00:56:14,022
TALIA DROR:
<i>We received advice</i>

1094
00:56:14,196 --> 00:56:18,026
from police and administration
to stay in our dorms

1095
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,029
<i>because of potential
security threats.</i>

1096
00:56:21,203 --> 00:56:22,683
<i>And essentially,
everyone was just locked up</i>

1097
00:56:22,857 --> 00:56:25,947
<i>in their houses that night,
terrified.</i>

1098
00:56:27,035 --> 00:56:28,994
<i>Two friends of mine and I</i>

1099
00:56:29,168 --> 00:56:31,736
<i>published an article in</i>
The New York Times

1100
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:33,912
<i>entitled "What's Happening
on Campuses Right Now</i>

1101
00:56:34,086 --> 00:56:36,088
<i>Isn't Free Speech."</i>

1102
00:56:36,262 --> 00:56:38,656
<i>We made our way around the news.</i>

1103
00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:40,266
I mean, you had students

1104
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,050
fearing to go
into the kosher dining hall

1105
00:56:42,224 --> 00:56:43,835
'cause they were afraid
they were gonna get shot.

1106
00:56:44,009 --> 00:56:45,576
<i>We spoke on multiple
different shows</i>

1107
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:48,492
<i>about our personal experiences.</i>

1108
00:56:48,666 --> 00:56:50,145
♪ ♪

1109
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:52,887
<i>My mother grew up in Iran.</i>

1110
00:56:53,061 --> 00:56:56,630
<i>She used to get slapped
at school for being Jewish.</i>

1111
00:56:56,804 --> 00:57:00,417
<i>My grandfather was stabbed
on a bus one day</i>

1112
00:57:00,591 --> 00:57:03,245
<i>after someone called him
"a dirty Jew."</i>

1113
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:05,509
I should never have to walk
around campus listening

1114
00:57:05,683 --> 00:57:09,817
to my peers scream that I
and my family should be killed.

1115
00:57:09,991 --> 00:57:11,776
- And that's happening?
- Yes.

1116
00:57:11,950 --> 00:57:13,299
- At Cornell?
- Yes.

1117
00:57:13,473 --> 00:57:14,909
DROR:
<i>My mom always says that</i>

1118
00:57:15,083 --> 00:57:17,521
the hardest thing right now

1119
00:57:17,695 --> 00:57:21,873
is watching me go through

1120
00:57:22,047 --> 00:57:24,441
inherent Jew hatred

1121
00:57:24,615 --> 00:57:27,879
after she abandoned everything
to come to a country

1122
00:57:28,053 --> 00:57:30,621
where she didn't think she would
have to deal with that.

1123
00:57:30,795 --> 00:57:33,841
<i>After all the news appearances,
I was reached out to by someone</i>

1124
00:57:34,015 --> 00:57:37,105
<i>in D.C. calling me to testify.</i>

1125
00:57:37,279 --> 00:57:39,717
Universities
have failed to uphold

1126
00:57:39,891 --> 00:57:43,155
their self-proclaimed
values of equity and belonging

1127
00:57:43,329 --> 00:57:45,592
when it comes
to Jewish students.

1128
00:57:45,766 --> 00:57:48,552
<i>I really wanted to communicate
what it was like</i>

1129
00:57:48,726 --> 00:57:51,250
<i>to be a student
when you're watching</i>

1130
00:57:51,424 --> 00:57:54,035
350 people in front of you

1131
00:57:54,209 --> 00:57:56,516
scream that Jews
should be killed

1132
00:57:56,690 --> 00:57:58,562
for Palestinian liberation.

1133
00:57:58,736 --> 00:58:00,868
This atmosphere is intolerable.

1134
00:58:01,042 --> 00:58:04,306
Jewish students do not believe
that the MIT administration

1135
00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:07,484
has done an adequate job to make
students feel safe on campus.

1136
00:58:07,658 --> 00:58:08,963
MIT is not doing anything

1137
00:58:09,137 --> 00:58:10,312
to make anybody
feel safe on campus

1138
00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:11,879
is the problem.

1139
00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:15,492
And the fact
that they're unwilling to say

1140
00:58:15,666 --> 00:58:18,407
there are ten times
more anti-Semitic incidents

1141
00:58:18,582 --> 00:58:21,759
happening on MIT's campus
than Islamophobic incidents.

1142
00:58:21,933 --> 00:58:25,240
It's not saying that we value
Jewish students more, it's not.

1143
00:58:25,414 --> 00:58:27,025
It's just saying
this is a bigger problem

1144
00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:28,505
that we need to focus on.

1145
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,419
<i>My mother is Jewish</i>

1146
00:58:30,594 --> 00:58:34,380
<i>and my father is an Afghan
Muslim from Afghanistan.</i>

1147
00:58:34,554 --> 00:58:36,338
Obviously,
as the daughter of a Muslim,

1148
00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:39,385
and half of my family is Muslim,

1149
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:41,822
I totally empathize with people
who are hijabi, for example,

1150
00:58:41,996 --> 00:58:43,476
being scared.

1151
00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:47,959
But it's--
it's not an either-or.

1152
00:58:48,133 --> 00:58:50,265
President Kornbluth,

1153
00:58:50,439 --> 00:58:53,312
please let me go back
to being a scientist.

1154
00:58:53,486 --> 00:58:55,488
Let me go back
to being a student.

1155
00:58:55,662 --> 00:58:57,925
I don't want to have
to keep advocating

1156
00:58:58,099 --> 00:59:00,319
for Jewish student safety
on campus.

1157
00:59:00,493 --> 00:59:02,974
It's not my job. It's your job.

1158
00:59:03,148 --> 00:59:05,803
Please do your job and act now.

1159
00:59:05,977 --> 00:59:09,546
And if you can't, I'm asking
Congress to do it for you.

1160
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,243
Thank you.

1161
00:59:11,417 --> 00:59:12,940
<i>There's no way
we're gonna get any change</i>

1162
00:59:13,114 --> 00:59:16,509
unless people from the top,
you know,

1163
00:59:16,683 --> 00:59:19,338
people from the White House,
people from Capitol Hill,

1164
00:59:19,512 --> 00:59:21,296
<i>bring these
university presidents</i>

1165
00:59:21,470 --> 00:59:23,037
<i>to the principal's office.</i>

1166
00:59:23,211 --> 00:59:26,214
ELISE STEFANIK:
Dr. Kornbluth, at MIT,

1167
00:59:26,388 --> 00:59:28,173
does calling
for the genocide of Jews

1168
00:59:28,347 --> 00:59:31,045
violate MIT's code of conduct

1169
00:59:31,219 --> 00:59:33,744
or rules regarding bullying
and harassment, yes or no?

1170
00:59:33,918 --> 00:59:36,398
I have not heard calling
for the genocide for Jews

1171
00:59:36,573 --> 00:59:38,313
- on our campus.
- But you've heard chants

1172
00:59:38,487 --> 00:59:40,315
for intifada.

1173
00:59:40,489 --> 00:59:43,188
I've heard chants,
which can be anti-Semitic

1174
00:59:43,362 --> 00:59:44,755
depending on the context.

1175
00:59:44,929 --> 00:59:47,584
It is a context-dependent
decision, Congresswoman.

1176
00:59:47,758 --> 00:59:49,194
Depending on the context.

1177
00:59:49,368 --> 00:59:51,109
What's the context?

1178
00:59:51,283 --> 00:59:53,241
- Targeted as-- at an individual.
- It's targeted

1179
00:59:53,415 --> 00:59:56,549
at Jewish students,
Jewish individuals.

1180
00:59:59,334 --> 01:00:01,423
GALLOWAY:
<i>We saw really well-educated,</i>

1181
01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:02,729
<i>highly esteemed,
very intelligent</i>

1182
01:00:02,903 --> 01:00:04,557
<i>university presidents</i>

1183
01:00:04,731 --> 01:00:07,038
<i>unable to condemn</i>

1184
01:00:07,212 --> 01:00:10,563
<i>language that calls
for genocide.</i>

1185
01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,000
And in a different setting,
if they'd been asked,

1186
01:00:13,174 --> 01:00:16,961
well, if people started chanting
"Lynch the Blacks,"

1187
01:00:17,135 --> 01:00:20,051
they would have had no problem
finding the words to say,

1188
01:00:20,225 --> 01:00:21,661
"This is unacceptable."

1189
01:00:21,835 --> 01:00:24,098
It just would've been
unacceptable, full stop.

1190
01:00:24,272 --> 01:00:27,058
It wouldn't have been
context-dependent.

1191
01:00:27,232 --> 01:00:30,931
So we've gotten to a point
where the hard-fought victories

1192
01:00:31,105 --> 01:00:34,805
against racism, against bigotry,
against persecution

1193
01:00:34,979 --> 01:00:38,243
don't apply to this small group
of people.

1194
01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:41,159
DAVIDAI:
<i>We see these videos</i>

1195
01:00:41,333 --> 01:00:42,856
<i>of book burnings in Germany</i>

1196
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:45,250
<i>and we're shocked by that.</i>

1197
01:00:45,424 --> 01:00:46,860
<i>Where did those books come from?</i>

1198
01:00:47,034 --> 01:00:49,428
<i>They came
from university libraries.</i>

1199
01:00:49,602 --> 01:00:52,431
Who brought those books out
from the library?

1200
01:00:52,605 --> 01:00:55,042
<i>Student organizations.
Who looked the other way?</i>

1201
01:00:55,216 --> 01:00:58,089
<i>The administration
and the presidents.</i>

1202
01:00:58,263 --> 01:01:00,831
NEWSCASTER: <i>The University
of Pennsylvania president</i>

1203
01:01:01,005 --> 01:01:02,833
<i>has resigned.</i>

1204
01:01:03,007 --> 01:01:04,878
REPORTER: <i>Harvard president
Claudine Gay has announced</i>

1205
01:01:05,052 --> 01:01:07,228
<i>she is resigning from office.</i>

1206
01:01:07,402 --> 01:01:09,143
WOLPE:
<i>Over the past 30 years,</i>

1207
01:01:09,317 --> 01:01:12,407
<i>these universities
have geared up to make sure</i>

1208
01:01:12,581 --> 01:01:15,759
nobody is anti-LGBTQ,
nobody is anti-Black.

1209
01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:20,851
But the idea that anti-Semitism
was in that same category

1210
01:01:21,025 --> 01:01:24,768
was foreign to many of them,
and they wouldn't see it

1211
01:01:24,942 --> 01:01:28,641
even though the evidence
stared them in the face.

1212
01:01:30,382 --> 01:01:31,644
STUDENTS [chanting]:
<i>Rape is rape!</i>

1213
01:01:31,818 --> 01:01:33,820
<i>Rape is rape!</i>

1214
01:01:33,994 --> 01:01:37,041
Rape is rape! Rape is rape!

1215
01:01:37,215 --> 01:01:39,478
Rape is rape!

1216
01:01:58,105 --> 01:02:00,891
[all chanting]:
<i>Me too, unless you are a Jew!</i>

1217
01:02:01,065 --> 01:02:03,502
One of the least-discussed
atrocities

1218
01:02:03,676 --> 01:02:06,418
in the October 7th
Hamas attack on Israel

1219
01:02:06,592 --> 01:02:09,203
is coming into
horrifying focus tonight.

1220
01:02:09,377 --> 01:02:13,294
Stories of women sexually
assaulted and brutally killed.

1221
01:02:13,468 --> 01:02:16,776
RUTH HALPERIN-KADDARI:
<i>Immediately after October 7th,</i>

1222
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:20,214
<i>it was clear to me
that sexual violence</i>

1223
01:02:20,388 --> 01:02:23,043
was also part of the massacre.

1224
01:02:23,217 --> 01:02:28,353
On the-the Monday following
that Saturday of October 7th,

1225
01:02:28,527 --> 01:02:32,618
<i>we gathered
more than 800 signatures</i>

1226
01:02:32,792 --> 01:02:35,490
<i>of international gender
and law professors</i>

1227
01:02:35,664 --> 01:02:37,754
<i>from all over the world.</i>

1228
01:02:37,928 --> 01:02:43,585
<i>We requested U.N. agencies--
and U.N. Women, of course--</i>

1229
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,329
<i>that they issue statements
condemning Hamas.</i>

1230
01:02:49,243 --> 01:02:50,288
[notification chimes]

1231
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,988
<i>But the statements
that came out</i>

1232
01:02:55,162 --> 01:02:58,426
<i>were extremely disappointing,</i>

1233
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,690
<i>especially U.N. Women,</i>

1234
01:03:01,865 --> 01:03:05,999
<i>who resorted
to familiar symmetry</i>

1235
01:03:06,173 --> 01:03:09,046
<i>between the two sides
of the conflict.</i>

1236
01:03:11,048 --> 01:03:13,485
<i>The report that they issued</i>

1237
01:03:13,659 --> 01:03:17,402
<i>hardly even mentioned
Israeli women.</i>

1238
01:03:19,404 --> 01:03:22,973
<i>Proper comparison should be</i>

1239
01:03:23,147 --> 01:03:26,237
to the Russian invasion
of Ukraine.

1240
01:03:26,411 --> 01:03:28,282
Global outrage grew today

1241
01:03:28,456 --> 01:03:32,591
as more horrific revelations
surfaced from Bucha, Ukraine.

1242
01:03:32,765 --> 01:03:35,681
HALPERIN-KADDARI:
<i>After the Bucha massacre,</i>

1243
01:03:35,855 --> 01:03:40,294
<i>you see that U.N. Women reacted
immediately, within days.</i>

1244
01:03:40,468 --> 01:03:42,557
<i>There was no need to wait</i>

1245
01:03:42,731 --> 01:03:46,474
<i>for firsthand accounts.</i>

1246
01:03:46,648 --> 01:03:49,608
<i>They immediately called
for investigation</i>

1247
01:03:49,782 --> 01:03:54,004
<i>and called for
a resolute condemnation.</i>

1248
01:03:54,178 --> 01:03:57,355
And that didn't happen
after October 7th.

1249
01:03:59,661 --> 01:04:01,838
MICHAL COTLER-WUNSH:
<i>Women of the world united</i>

1250
01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:04,666
<i>around #MeToo
and "we believe you."</i>

1251
01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:09,715
#MeToo, unless you're
a Jew/Zionist/live in Israel.

1252
01:04:10,716 --> 01:04:13,240
<i>That is the ultimate,</i>

1253
01:04:13,414 --> 01:04:16,026
<i>most painful double standard.</i>

1254
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,246
FAY: <i>Their silence
was not surprising to me.</i>

1255
01:04:19,420 --> 01:04:21,422
<i>Even at my school,</i>

1256
01:04:21,596 --> 01:04:25,731
<i>the refusal
of my Barnard sisterhood</i>

1257
01:04:25,905 --> 01:04:29,256
<i>to support the women
who had been raped</i>

1258
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:30,692
<i>and sexually assaulted</i>

1259
01:04:30,867 --> 01:04:33,173
was incredibly shocking to me.

1260
01:04:33,347 --> 01:04:38,222
<i>If an all-women's college
cannot support</i>

1261
01:04:38,396 --> 01:04:40,093
our fellow women
around the world

1262
01:04:40,267 --> 01:04:41,878
<i>because we're Jewish,</i>

1263
01:04:42,052 --> 01:04:43,705
<i>it really, if nothing else,
showed me</i>

1264
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,925
<i>that I truly did not know</i>

1265
01:04:46,099 --> 01:04:49,668
<i>what anti-Semitism was
before October 7th.</i>

1266
01:04:50,582 --> 01:04:51,757
[notification chimes]

1267
01:04:51,931 --> 01:04:53,324
DAYANI:
<i>What is the point</i>

1268
01:04:53,498 --> 01:04:55,195
<i>of you sitting this one out?</i>

1269
01:04:55,369 --> 01:04:57,154
<i>Do we say</i>

1270
01:04:57,328 --> 01:04:59,199
some people's suffering
is more valuable than others?

1271
01:04:59,373 --> 01:05:01,201
That certain victims deserve
more rights than others?

1272
01:05:01,375 --> 01:05:04,378
Like, either you say,
"We believe women,"

1273
01:05:04,552 --> 01:05:05,902
and then you believe all women.

1274
01:05:06,076 --> 01:05:07,555
When you say,
"we stand for women,"

1275
01:05:07,729 --> 01:05:09,601
and then you stand
for all women,

1276
01:05:09,775 --> 01:05:11,820
or do you just get to sit there
and choose?

1277
01:05:13,692 --> 01:05:15,520
SHERYL SANDBERG: <i>As the reports
started to come out</i>

1278
01:05:15,694 --> 01:05:17,130
<i>about the sexual violence,</i>

1279
01:05:17,304 --> 01:05:18,915
<i>and people weren't speaking out,
you know,</i>

1280
01:05:19,089 --> 01:05:21,874
<i>I did what I know how to do:
I wrote an op-ed.</i>

1281
01:05:22,048 --> 01:05:24,833
<i>And my husband said to me,
"We should make a video,"</i>

1282
01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:27,140
so, over a weekend,
we made a video.

1283
01:05:27,314 --> 01:05:28,968
<i>No matter</i>

1284
01:05:29,142 --> 01:05:31,797
which marches you attend,
which religion you practice,

1285
01:05:31,971 --> 01:05:35,105
or none at all, there is one
thing we should all agree on:

1286
01:05:35,279 --> 01:05:38,891
rape should never be used
as an act of war.

1287
01:05:39,065 --> 01:05:40,327
<i>U.N. Women, it was like</i>

1288
01:05:40,501 --> 01:05:43,940
their core job to speak out

1289
01:05:44,114 --> 01:05:46,768
on any international situation
on women, so for them,

1290
01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:49,336
late is totally unacceptable.

1291
01:05:51,948 --> 01:05:53,558
DAYANI:
<i>At this point, it has been</i>

1292
01:05:53,732 --> 01:05:55,864
<i>well over 50 days
since the attack.</i>

1293
01:05:56,039 --> 01:05:58,215
There were so many
women's organizations

1294
01:05:58,389 --> 01:06:00,782
that had not said a word.

1295
01:06:00,957 --> 01:06:04,743
<i>So, we had to call this session
at the United Nations.</i>

1296
01:06:04,917 --> 01:06:06,788
<i>We had to force their hand.</i>

1297
01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:08,921
♪ ♪

1298
01:06:15,319 --> 01:06:18,061
HALPERIN-KADDARI:
<i>It took them almost eight weeks</i>

1299
01:06:18,235 --> 01:06:21,673
<i>after the attack to acknowledge</i>

1300
01:06:21,847 --> 01:06:24,241
<i>that there are
concerning reports</i>

1301
01:06:24,415 --> 01:06:29,376
of severe sexual violence
and sexual atrocities.

1302
01:06:34,207 --> 01:06:37,776
DAYANI: <i>What is it
about these women and girls</i>

1303
01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:40,039
that makes them so unworthy

1304
01:06:40,213 --> 01:06:43,521
of your otherwise limitless
capacity for outrage,

1305
01:06:43,695 --> 01:06:45,958
solidarity and justice?

1306
01:06:46,132 --> 01:06:51,007
Once again, I am afraid
the reason is quite simple.

1307
01:06:51,181 --> 01:06:52,617
Because they're Jews.

1308
01:06:52,791 --> 01:06:55,794
We have come so far
in establishing

1309
01:06:55,968 --> 01:06:58,188
that rape is a crime
against humanity.

1310
01:06:58,362 --> 01:06:59,667
And we have come so far

1311
01:06:59,841 --> 01:07:02,496
in believing survivors
of sexual assault

1312
01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:05,108
in so many situations.

1313
01:07:05,282 --> 01:07:10,069
That's why the silence on
these war crimes is dangerous.

1314
01:07:10,243 --> 01:07:11,462
<i>I think one of the most
important things</i>

1315
01:07:11,636 --> 01:07:13,246
that happened at the U.N.

1316
01:07:13,420 --> 01:07:16,728
was not just people
who were Jewish speaking out,

1317
01:07:16,902 --> 01:07:19,644
<i>but the people who really are
the allies and joined us.</i>

1318
01:07:21,211 --> 01:07:23,909
When I saw the list
of women's rights organizations

1319
01:07:24,083 --> 01:07:27,608
who have said nothing,
I nearly choked.

1320
01:07:27,782 --> 01:07:29,219
<i>I think it's shocking.</i>

1321
01:07:29,393 --> 01:07:32,657
I am mystified

1322
01:07:32,831 --> 01:07:34,398
by the lack of solidarity

1323
01:07:34,572 --> 01:07:37,140
for women's rights
by women's rights organizations.

1324
01:07:37,314 --> 01:07:40,665
That, in some way,
Israeli women don't count

1325
01:07:40,839 --> 01:07:42,971
or are not women
or are not human.

1326
01:07:44,234 --> 01:07:47,193
<i>There's no room
for doing nothing.</i>

1327
01:07:47,367 --> 01:07:49,630
♪ ♪

1328
01:07:55,897 --> 01:07:58,030
VEKSLER: <i>On February 25th,
I got a message</i>

1329
01:07:58,204 --> 01:07:59,901
<i>that there was a sign
on the door</i>

1330
01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:01,642
<i>of the multicultural center</i>

1331
01:08:01,816 --> 01:08:03,862
<i>that said
"Zionists not allowed."</i>

1332
01:08:06,386 --> 01:08:08,823
<i>The Jewish community obviously
was freaking out about this.</i>

1333
01:08:08,997 --> 01:08:10,434
Not only because of the irony
of this happening

1334
01:08:10,608 --> 01:08:12,523
at a multicultural center

1335
01:08:12,697 --> 01:08:15,308
<i>but because it was scary.</i>

1336
01:08:15,482 --> 01:08:17,180
<i>The next morning,
the Jewish students chose to go,</i>

1337
01:08:17,354 --> 01:08:19,182
<i>and they chose to sit
in the exact room</i>

1338
01:08:19,356 --> 01:08:22,054
<i>where they were told
they were not allowed to be.</i>

1339
01:08:25,405 --> 01:08:27,146
<i>Half of the room was Jewish
students doing their homework,</i>

1340
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,105
<i>and then the other half</i>

1341
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:32,934
was a bunch of students wrapped
in keffiyehs making posters.

1342
01:08:33,109 --> 01:08:34,849
I went to the side of the room
with the keffiyehs

1343
01:08:35,023 --> 01:08:36,547
<i>because I wanted to understand</i>

1344
01:08:36,721 --> 01:08:38,549
<i>what they were trying
to accomplish.</i>

1345
01:08:38,723 --> 01:08:40,159
<i>And while I was trying to speak</i>

1346
01:08:40,333 --> 01:08:43,249
to these students very calmly,
they were trying

1347
01:08:43,423 --> 01:08:45,164
to intimidate me
to get me out of the room.

1348
01:08:45,338 --> 01:08:47,166
<i>So what they started to do
was to make posters</i>

1349
01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:50,604
<i>targeting me directly
with my full name.</i>

1350
01:08:50,778 --> 01:08:53,564
<i>"Tessa Veksler
supports genocide."</i>

1351
01:08:55,566 --> 01:08:58,830
<i>"You can run, but you can't
hide, Tessa Veksler."</i>

1352
01:08:59,004 --> 01:09:01,180
After that, I mean,
it only got worse.

1353
01:09:01,354 --> 01:09:04,966
<i>I remember getting a text
at, like, 2:00 a.m.,</i>

1354
01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:08,144
"There's people
walking around in masks,

1355
01:09:08,318 --> 01:09:11,756
<i>putting flyers in mailboxes
near your house."</i>

1356
01:09:13,671 --> 01:09:17,065
UCSB is investigating signs
and social media posts

1357
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,417
that appear to single out
the student body president.

1358
01:09:20,591 --> 01:09:23,768
I honestly thought that
administration was on my side.

1359
01:09:23,942 --> 01:09:25,552
<i>They issued a couple
of statements,</i>

1360
01:09:25,726 --> 01:09:28,425
<i>but nothing about me directly.</i>

1361
01:09:28,599 --> 01:09:31,689
<i>The urgency of this situation
cannot be overstated.</i>

1362
01:09:31,863 --> 01:09:34,996
We must act decisively
and demand accountability

1363
01:09:35,171 --> 01:09:39,392
to ensure the safety
and well-being of all students.

1364
01:09:39,566 --> 01:09:42,874
I, Tessa Veksler, will not
stand for this on my campus,

1365
01:09:43,048 --> 01:09:46,312
in my community
or in my workplace.

1366
01:09:47,008 --> 01:09:48,445
Want to see what
Rutgers Jewish students

1367
01:09:48,619 --> 01:09:49,402
dealt with last night?

1368
01:09:49,576 --> 01:09:50,882
Watch this.

1369
01:09:51,056 --> 01:09:53,711
STUDENT:
All Zionists are racists!

1370
01:09:53,885 --> 01:09:56,670
STUDENTS [chanting]:
All Zionists are racists!

1371
01:09:56,844 --> 01:09:58,977
STUDENT:
We don't want two states...

1372
01:09:59,151 --> 01:10:00,718
SCHANZER:
<i>We now are in a situation</i>

1373
01:10:00,892 --> 01:10:04,025
<i>where Jewish students on campus
feel unsafe.</i>

1374
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,116
They feel attacked, they feel
alienated and ostracized,

1375
01:10:08,291 --> 01:10:12,991
and it is because of this
growing movement of anti-Zionism

1376
01:10:13,165 --> 01:10:16,124
<i>that has taken on
a different life</i>

1377
01:10:16,299 --> 01:10:18,562
<i>since the October 7th attacks.</i>

1378
01:10:18,736 --> 01:10:21,782
♪ ♪

1379
01:10:25,177 --> 01:10:28,702
TISHBY: <i>The first phase
of anti-Semitism is peoplehood.</i>

1380
01:10:28,876 --> 01:10:33,316
There are reports
of Alexandria, 300 BC,

1381
01:10:33,490 --> 01:10:36,014
of people saying,
"Who is this weird people?"

1382
01:10:36,188 --> 01:10:38,146
<i>When Christianity appeared,</i>

1383
01:10:38,321 --> 01:10:40,714
<i>anti-Semitism turned into
religious anti-Semitism.</i>

1384
01:10:40,888 --> 01:10:43,935
<i>So, the whole concept
of "the Jews killed Christ."</i>

1385
01:10:44,109 --> 01:10:45,763
<i>It was all about
religious persecution</i>

1386
01:10:45,937 --> 01:10:47,112
<i>of the Jewish people.</i>

1387
01:10:47,286 --> 01:10:49,854
Then anti-Semitism
morphed again,

1388
01:10:50,028 --> 01:10:52,552
<i>into racial anti-Semitism.</i>

1389
01:10:52,726 --> 01:10:54,902
<i>The tricky part about
that shape-shifting</i>

1390
01:10:55,076 --> 01:10:56,643
<i>is that you can't convert
out of it.</i>

1391
01:10:56,817 --> 01:10:58,732
<i>So once you're racially Jewish,
it doesn't matter</i>

1392
01:10:58,906 --> 01:11:01,387
<i>what percentage of Jew
you have in you, you're done.</i>

1393
01:11:01,561 --> 01:11:02,997
<i>That was the third iteration.</i>

1394
01:11:03,171 --> 01:11:05,173
<i>Obviously,
it created the Holocaust.</i>

1395
01:11:05,348 --> 01:11:07,175
The fourth iteration of
anti-Semitism is anti-Zionism.

1396
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:09,352
PROTESTOR:
Smash the settler Zionist state!

1397
01:11:09,526 --> 01:11:11,354
PROTESTORS [chanting]:
Smash the settler Zionist state!

1398
01:11:11,528 --> 01:11:14,574
PROTESTOR: Smash-smash
the settler Zionist state!

1399
01:11:14,748 --> 01:11:16,359
SENOR:
<i>Once you normalize</i>

1400
01:11:16,533 --> 01:11:17,751
<i>Zionism equals apartheid,</i>

1401
01:11:17,925 --> 01:11:20,667
<i>Zionism equals genocide,</i>

1402
01:11:20,841 --> 01:11:22,365
<i>and that person is a Zionist,</i>

1403
01:11:22,539 --> 01:11:24,323
<i>"then I can do
a lot to that person."</i>

1404
01:11:24,497 --> 01:11:26,064
<i>That justifies a lot.</i>

1405
01:11:28,153 --> 01:11:29,937
And attacking that person,
in any way I choose

1406
01:11:30,111 --> 01:11:32,070
to attack them
becomes defensible.

1407
01:11:32,244 --> 01:11:34,246
Zionists don't deserve to live.

1408
01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:37,380
The existence of Nazis,
white supremacists,

1409
01:11:37,554 --> 01:11:40,121
Zionists--
these are all the same people--

1410
01:11:40,296 --> 01:11:42,254
the existence of them...

1411
01:12:03,101 --> 01:12:05,364
The anti-Semitism
we see from the left

1412
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doesn't surprise me, 'cause
I've been tracking it for years.

1413
01:12:08,541 --> 01:12:11,414
But I used to talk about
a political spectrum

1414
01:12:11,588 --> 01:12:13,894
from far right to far left
and where you find

1415
01:12:14,068 --> 01:12:16,244
the anti-Semitism
on the political spectrum.

1416
01:12:16,419 --> 01:12:19,552
<i>I've changed that.
I now talk about a horseshoe.</i>

1417
01:12:19,726 --> 01:12:22,425
<i>And you know, the two ends
of a horseshoe are magnetic.</i>

1418
01:12:22,599 --> 01:12:24,688
<i>And you would think,
how would the far, far left</i>

1419
01:12:24,862 --> 01:12:27,430
<i>and the far, far right
share views on anything?</i>

1420
01:12:27,604 --> 01:12:30,041
<i>They don't,
except in this regard.</i>

1421
01:12:31,956 --> 01:12:33,653
TISHBY: <i>In recent years,
when I would try to tell people</i>

1422
01:12:33,827 --> 01:12:36,569
that anti-Zionism is the worst
part of anti-Semitism today,

1423
01:12:36,743 --> 01:12:39,485
they would point out
to an easy-to-identify

1424
01:12:39,659 --> 01:12:42,749
anti-Semitism
like Marjorie Taylor Greene.

1425
01:12:45,404 --> 01:12:47,928
<i>It's very easy
for every one of us to be like,</i>

1426
01:12:48,102 --> 01:12:50,061
<i>"Oh, yeah,
that's anti-Semitism."</i>

1427
01:12:51,062 --> 01:12:52,629
<i>Or "Jews will not replace us."</i>

1428
01:12:55,762 --> 01:12:58,069
<i>That's overtly
right-wing anti-Semitism.</i>

1429
01:12:58,243 --> 01:12:59,766
<i>We understand this,
we know this.</i>

1430
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:03,204
<i>It's very easy for us
to point that out.</i>

1431
01:13:03,379 --> 01:13:04,902
But what was very difficult
for a lot of people

1432
01:13:05,076 --> 01:13:08,122
in polite society is to identify
what it changed to today.

1433
01:13:08,296 --> 01:13:10,647
♪ ♪

1434
01:13:12,823 --> 01:13:16,522
DAYANI:
<i>We have raised this generation</i>

1435
01:13:16,696 --> 01:13:20,439
<i>to stand up
against social injustice.</i>

1436
01:13:21,875 --> 01:13:24,269
<i>And I think
that they have understood</i>

1437
01:13:24,443 --> 01:13:27,228
<i>a lot of oppression
through a construct of race.</i>

1438
01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:29,448
That construct does not apply
to the Middle East.

1439
01:13:29,622 --> 01:13:33,844
Like, I am not white, and most
people in Israel are not white.

1440
01:13:36,237 --> 01:13:40,328
Hey, this is me,
the Zionist Israeli.

1441
01:13:40,503 --> 01:13:44,420
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