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["Pretty Saro"
sung by Donna Ray Norton]
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♪ Down in some lone valley, ♪
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♪ In a far distant place, ♪
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♪ Where the wild birds
do whistle, ♪
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♪ Their notes do increase ♪
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♪ I'm going to some far land, ♪
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♪ My fortune to know, ♪
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♪ That I'll dream
of pretty Saro ♪
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♪ Wherever I'll go ♪
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[roar of rushing water]
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♪ Yes, I wish I was a poet ♪
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♪ And could write
some fine hand ♪
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♪ I'd write my love a letter ♪
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♪ That she'd understand ♪
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♪ I'd write it by the river ♪
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♪ Where the waters o'erflow, ♪
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♪ That I'll dream
of pretty Saro ♪
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♪ Wherever I go ♪
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♪ And I wish I was a sparrow, ♪
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♪ Had wings, and could fly ♪
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♪ Straight to my
love's window ♪
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♪ This night I draw nigh, ♪
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♪ All night in the arms ♪
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♪ Of my true love I'd lay, ♪
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♪ And watch those
little windows ♪
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♪ 'Till the dawning of day ♪
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[birds chirp]
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[clock ticking]
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[many birds chirping at once]
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[chickens squawking]
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[splashing]
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[croaking]
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[insects buzz]
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[Joe] Buddy, Buddy,
Buddy, Buddy.
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Come on a walk, Buddy?
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[Buddy whines]
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[Buddy panting]
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This plant has been here
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probably as long as this house
has been here.
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35 years or so.
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This is probably the rarest
plant in my garden,
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which I'm trying very hard
to keep alive.
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I've got three or four in here.
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There's one there.
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It's a kind of ginseng.
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Uh, I don't know of anywhere
else in the country
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where you can see this plant.
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So, this is a major,
major adaptogen,
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and the word adaptogen was
coined to describe this plant.
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So, the Russians are doing
a whole lot of research
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on these health-promoting
plants,
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and their goal was to win more
gold medals at the Olympics,
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which they did.
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Now, the leaves of this
are not all that different
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from the leaves of this,
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but this one is the plant
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that killed
Abraham Lincoln's mother.
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Its name will be tarnished
throughout history for that.
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Lobelia inflata.
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It's because of these
inflated seed pods.
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They look like little balloons.
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So, this is an emetic.
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So, if you wanted to make
yourself puke, this would help.
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There was this guy,
Samuel Thomson,
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and he was the first person
in America to advocate
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for herbal medicine.
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So just for a joke,
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he gives this working man
tea made from this.
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He says, "Try th--"
The guy's feeling kind of puny.
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"Try this."
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Well, the guy goes and pukes
his guck out-- guts out,
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and then he comes
back an hour later,
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and he says, "I feel better
than I have in months."
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[laughs]
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And this big lightbulb goes on,
on Samuel Thomson's head.
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And his theme was,
"every man his own doctor."
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But every plant tells a story.
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[birds chirping]
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[buzzing]
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[director] How old is Buddy?
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[Joe] Uh, I keep trying
to remember.
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But six or seven, maybe, by now.
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Time flies, you know.
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[chuckles]
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Like, I-- I keep saying things
were five years ago,
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and then at some point
I realize,
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"Oh, I better jack that
up to ten."
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[both laugh]
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[director] So, can you start
by just telling us the history
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of the idea
of a paradise garden,
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and your landing here?
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Uh, yeah.
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So, hello, everyone.
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Thank you for visiting.
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My name is Joe Hollis.
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I'm sitting on the porch
of my house at Mountain Gardens,
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my property.
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It's in Yancey County.
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It's at the foot
of the highest mountains
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in eastern
North America, actually.
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2.8 acres of land,
which I purchased in 1972,
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right up against
the National Forest.
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Basically, I wanted to do
something with my life
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that would address the current
kind of disastrous situation,
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as I see it,
of human life on Earth,
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or, at least,
Western human life on Earth.
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It's like we are no longer
occupying a niche
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vis-à-vis, uh, Gaia,
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that functions either for us
or for Gaia.
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I think it all really comes down
to values at the base.
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Like, values is the rudder
that steers the whole
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giant ship that's out there.
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It's like, what do we really
want out of life?
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So I think a-- a lot
of our problem,
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as-- as far as our niche goes,
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has to do with our value system.
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Over the years, we've gotten
more and more into this position
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where we're just unabashedly
materialistic,
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and we just want more stuff,
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and the more stuff we can get,
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the more successful
our life has been.
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So I knew I was gonna spend
my life just doing
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one particular experiment,
you might say,
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of how to live on Earth.
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So, the concept I came up with,
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uh, I call paradise gardening,
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and I have various little ways
to define that.
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Uh, one would be a way
of life that, uh,
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is best for Gaia,
best for our species,
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and best for the individual.
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That would be a simple
definition.
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Another really easy definition
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would be the garden
where everything you need
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is there for the taking.
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[gentle guitar music]
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So, the goal all along
has been to become
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a hunter-gatherer
in my own garden,
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and to have my garden be full
enough of the things I need
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to gather to--
to supply my needs,
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and the needs of, maybe,
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a half a dozen other people
living here.
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The idea all along has been
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to have this be
not a one-man operation,
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but a-- a small community,
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like an eco-village,
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and that is still the intention,
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uh, and I'm not gonna be around
for a whole lot longer,
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so I'm rather urgently
looking for the people
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that are gonna inherit
this place, and take it over.
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♪
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[birds chirp]
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{\an8}So, making a formula,
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which is gonna be pressed,
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and then it's gonna be
a tincture
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that, uh, we sell over there
or in one of these.
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And, um...
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so it's kinda just like
following a recipe.
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{\an8}This is all pretty new
to me this year.
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{\an8}So I've been here since probably
like the second week in March,
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so, in total, almost a year.
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I was kind of interested
in herbalism,
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but, um, I wasn't really ready
to commit to the--
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the cost of going
to a school like that.
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And once-- once I saw
Mountain Gardens,
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I was like, that's kinda what
I'm looking for,
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is, like, this full-immersion
horticultural,
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like, apprenticeship.
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But, man, like, working
under Joe is awesome,
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because he just knows
everything here.
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And so you can, like,
point at something,
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and he'll know the Latin name,
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the common name,
the medicinal value,
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where it came from.
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Like, I feel like a wizard
is, like, not--
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I don't know, maybe it's not
the best way to describe him,
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but he's like a plant wizard.
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[laughs]
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{\an8}[Ryan] Don't get me started
about mushrooms.
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{\an8}They are it.
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{\an8}I've been doing this for years.
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And I'm from Chicago,
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and there's a big mushroom
grower there
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that used to throw away
a dumpster's worth
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of this stuff every day.
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And I was on the Community
Gardener's Resource Committee,
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so I would collect all these
blocks, and distribute 'em
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to different gardeners.
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And then I used to teach a class
on how to do this,
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how to take care of 'em,
how to grow 'em.
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I'm really very specifically
interested in the learning,
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and sharing,
and developing a community
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and a culture of people that all
know how to do this stuff.
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Um, and that aligns perfectly
with, like,
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what Joe's vision for this place
has always been,
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a place that is an education
center for this kind of living.
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The first year I came here,
what year was that, Emma?
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- 2021?
- [Emma] 2021.
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Yeah, Emma and I both arrived
the first summer of 2021.
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Um...
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And, uh, that was before
the fire.
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And the library was here.
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And the books were here.
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And Joe's energy levels
were still really intact.
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And that was the plan,
is that 2022
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was gonna be building,
building, building,
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building, building
and infrastructure.
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And then in March,
the fire happened,
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and just caused a huge reset
in the place.
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[Joe] It was gonna be
the 50th anniversary
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of Mountain Gardens,
big celebratory year.
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Also my 80th birthday.
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This guy was here helping me.
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And I really kinda thought
that he was the guy
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I've been waiting for,
or one of them,
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to take over after me.
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And he had a little bit
of a drinking problem,
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I have to say,
and I've run into that before.
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Uh...
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And in any case, he made a fire.
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And he did not put it out
when he went to bed.
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And at five in the morning,
the whole place was, uh,
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in flames.
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The entire thing burned down.
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The pavilion, the library,
the tool shop,
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the photovoltaic system,
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the greenhouse here caught,
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it was such a big fire,
the greenhouse caught on fire.
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All these trees behind us
and ar-- around
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all caught on fire.
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The nursery operation,
which was below this deck,
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all that gone,
all the fertilizer,
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all the flats,
all the pots,
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all the-- all the everything.
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It was...
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quite shattering,
needless to say.
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So... yeah,
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I've never really recovered
from that,
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and I never really will.
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I think I'm suffering from
post-traumatic stress syndrome,
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and my health has really
been bad ever since then.
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Hypertension,
and God knows what all.
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Uh...
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[birds squawk distantly]
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[Joe groans]
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You know, it was hard to do
anything with all this rubble,
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because it was just all full
of broken glass.
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So a lot of it got
pushed back there,
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and then, burned books.
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I mean, we had this huge, uh,
hoop of burned books
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that-- that I was gonna try
and grow mushrooms on.
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But they ended up kind of
just being incorporated
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into this mound back here.
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Yeah, crazy stuff.
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Crazy stuff, I would not
wish anybody ever
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to have to deal with
that kind of thing.
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The way I had it before
this fire was,
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it was kind of the peak,
as far as my library,
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you know, it was really
first-rate.
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I mean, I can't quite imagine
a better library
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for the purposes that I wanted,
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which was to buttress
the argument I'm trying to make
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about how we should
be living on Earth,
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and just all this
supportive material, right?
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There's really no hope of ever,
uh, reassembling what was there.
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Not in my lifetime.
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That was 50 years of--
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of accumulating,
and reading, you know.
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And-- but the idea, uh,
is really just to try
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and put it back
as close as possible.
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That's my Dawn Redwood
out there.
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Looks like it's kind of,
uh, plateauing out up there.
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That's interesting.
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[birds chirp softly]
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[wind rustles in the leaves]
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[insects chirp]
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[clock ticking]
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I'm usually reading, uh,
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ten or a dozen things
at the same time.
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Just kinda switching
from one to another
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according to my interest
of-- of the day, of the moment.
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Just trying to pin down how
we should be living on Earth.
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What does it mean to be
a good human being?
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Well, pretty much of a disaster,
you know?
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We're destroying the planet,
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and half the population's
addicted to drugs.
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[chuckles]
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Everybody's, like,
stressed out like crazy.
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And, uh...
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It seems like we're constantly
on the brink
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of some kind of world war,
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and the weapons get more
and more intense.
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And, yeah, it's a total disaster
the whole way ar-- around.
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And it seems like
there's a widespread feeling
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that, uh, there's some kind
of huge crash coming.
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Of course, people
have been saying that
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for thousands of years,
so it remains to be seen.
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But...
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I don't know, certainly
just in terms of the way
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the climate's changing,
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that seems pretty unavoidable.
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It's mostly just thinking
about resilience,
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and then thinking about what
might follow in the future.
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Like, if there is some kind
of huge crash,
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then what might
be rebuilt, you know?
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[tranquil piano music]
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I took a lot of my inspiration
from Taoist philosophy,
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which I've ascribed to ever
since I was in high school.
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The kind of fundamental
idea of Taoism
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is that the Tao, which
is the way the world works,
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the way the universe works,
the way everything works,
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the Tao is-- is there doing
what the Tao does,
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and the goal of human life
is to fit ourselves in,
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because the idea is that
we can gather energy
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from our surroundings,
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that energy being called qi.
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Qi is what circulates
in the meridians of your body.
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Qi is, like, behind everything
that happens, really.
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Often translated as energy,
but not quite accurately.
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But the idea was,
with this garden,
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was very much the same
as the idea of human health,
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which is to balance everything.
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So you want to balance out
the seasons,
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you want to balance out
the directions,
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you want a balance
of sun and shade,
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you want a balance
of moist and dry.
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These are all yin-yang axes.
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So the idea is to try
and balance those all out,
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and that's gonna be
your perfect qi,
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just like in your body.
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These Taoist practitioners,
what they really wanted to do
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was get as deep into
the wilderness as they could,
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because that's where there was
perfect qi, you know?
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And the closer you come
to civilization,
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the more that qi
kind of gets diluted.
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[water rushing softly]
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[birds chirping]
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- [Margaret] Hi.
- [Joe] How are you?
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[Margaret] How you doing?
You okay?
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- Hmm?
- [Margaret] Are you okay?
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- [Joe groans]
- [Margaret] Huh?
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- No.
- No?
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You look a little anxious today.
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It's been quite a while
since I've been okay.
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- Yeah.
- [Joe laughs]
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Nothing new.
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Come on in.
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Yeah, I keep getting this sense
from your pulse
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that there's-- some--
something's just stuck
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- right here.
- Hmm.
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- And it's-- it's putting too--
- That's what it is, yeah.
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It's like-- it feels like
it's between my navel
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and my, uh,
whatever you call this.
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- Breastbone, yeah.
- Yeah.
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- Yeah.
- More focused in there.
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Yeah, and then it feels like
it's getting stuck up here.
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Hmm.
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Are you having any shortness
of breath, or...
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Um, I'm not noticing
that specifically,
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but then I'm not doing
a great deal of...
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Um...
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- Breath-shortening activity?
- Yeah, exactly.
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[both chuckle]
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[Margaret] It makes me
wonder if the organ itself
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is suffering in some way.
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Is it still warm?
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No, it's good, it's not too hot.
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Okay, good.
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Just warm, just nice.
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[Margaret] Joe, since you have a
scar here on your abdomen, these
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- might feel a little sharp.
- Hmm.
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[Margaret] But you just
let me know.
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Yeah, there's somebody there.
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[Joe] Yeah, you've got a live--
a live point there.
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[Margaret] Somebody there.
Mm-hmm.
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We're definitely going
in the right direction,
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according to your pulses.
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What are you noticing?
A little--
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- This little-- This little--
- [Joe] No, no.
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I'm not really noticing
anything much right this minute.
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[Margaret] Okay.
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[Joe] Everything feels okay.
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[Margaret] Okay.
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I'm gonna let you
have a snooze.
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[insects buzzing]
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[birds chirping]
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[motor rumbling]
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[chainsaw whirs]
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[wheelbarrow rumbles]
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[insects buzzing]
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[chainsaw whirring]
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[automated voice]
You have 13 old messages.
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[man] Uh, we were just calling.
We saw your video on YouTube.
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Um, we saw that you were asking
for people to come live with you
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and help work on the farm,
and work on the place.
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Uh, we would love to do that.
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- [Ryan] Well.
- [Phillip] Hello, friends.
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Uh, my name is Phillip,
and I was just curious
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about, uh, what it would take
to come down there
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for a couple of days,
and help you guys work.
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00:23:51,556 --> 00:23:54,392
Uh, I just-- I-- I just, uh--
Probably like a lot of people,
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I was just made aware
of you guys from the recent
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YouTube video that just, uh,
that just went up.
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00:24:01,732 --> 00:24:04,277
[man 2] We just need to know
if we're gonna be able
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to-- to bring our daughter.
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00:24:06,195 --> 00:24:07,613
Um, that-- that's the one--
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00:24:07,905 --> 00:24:09,699
that was the one thing
that we wanted to know.
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00:24:09,699 --> 00:24:11,367
[Ryan] One-- One question,
"Can we bring our daughter?"
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[man 2] Um, please give me
a call back.
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Uh, 308...
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00:24:15,288 --> 00:24:17,331
[Ryan] Not where-- not what
do you do with your poop?
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[laughing]
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00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:20,376
[automated voice] Voice message
from telephone number...
415
00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:25,715
So, like, a month
and a half ago,
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00:24:26,215 --> 00:24:29,927
a YouTuber came by to make
a video about Joe.
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00:24:30,219 --> 00:24:31,888
This happens all the time.
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00:24:31,888 --> 00:24:33,306
People contact Joe and want
to make a video with him
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or do a photoshoot with him,
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00:24:35,224 --> 00:24:36,809
and he always says yes,
because he's always just wanted
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00:24:36,809 --> 00:24:38,311
his message out to more people.
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00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:41,814
Um, we had no idea
who the guy was.
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00:24:42,106 --> 00:24:43,441
It's on us, right?
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00:24:43,441 --> 00:24:45,610
Um, it's this guy,
Peter Santenello.
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If you go on YouTube,
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00:24:47,069 --> 00:24:48,821
and go to the search box
and type "Peter",
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00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:51,199
just "Peter", he's the first
thing that comes up.
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00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,491
He's huge.
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00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,035
About two weeks ago now,
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the video launched,
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00:24:56,537 --> 00:24:59,916
and by this point
it's got seven million views
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00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:01,334
or something like that.
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00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:04,629
Every single day the phone
is ringing off the hook.
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00:25:04,629 --> 00:25:07,715
We've got hundreds
of emails from people
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00:25:07,715 --> 00:25:10,843
that want to move here
or volunteer here,
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00:25:11,135 --> 00:25:12,845
or just come meet Joe.
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00:25:13,137 --> 00:25:16,557
But we have had people
arriving with their families,
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00:25:16,557 --> 00:25:18,601
and their kids,
and their grandparents,
439
00:25:18,893 --> 00:25:21,270
expecting to, like,
have houses and places to stay.
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00:25:21,896 --> 00:25:25,024
We've also had people who come,
441
00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:26,692
and just aren't prepared
to poop in a bucket,
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00:25:27,151 --> 00:25:30,655
and decide they can't--
you know, this isn't for them.
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00:25:30,655 --> 00:25:33,032
Like, I was reading emails,
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00:25:33,449 --> 00:25:35,743
or actually listening
to voicemails today,
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00:25:35,743 --> 00:25:38,871
and one of the guys--
one of the guys wants to come
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00:25:38,871 --> 00:25:42,583
- if there's a hot shower.
- [both laugh]
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00:25:42,583 --> 00:25:43,751
I bathe in the creek.
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00:25:43,751 --> 00:25:44,669
[chuckles]
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00:25:44,961 --> 00:25:46,587
[roar of rushing water]
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00:25:47,088 --> 00:25:49,632
[Joe] It's been very, uh,
interesting just to see
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the, uh, quantity of responses,
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00:25:54,011 --> 00:25:56,055
and, you know, how many people
are so desperate
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00:25:56,347 --> 00:25:57,473
to live like this.
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00:25:57,473 --> 00:25:58,724
It's really kind of a...
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00:25:59,517 --> 00:26:01,936
I mean, I guess I probably
could have guessed that,
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00:26:01,936 --> 00:26:04,689
but to just see it...
[chuckles]
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00:26:04,689 --> 00:26:05,731
...is, uh,
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00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:08,442
is, uh, kind of an eye-opener,
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00:26:08,442 --> 00:26:11,821
and it makes me think a lot
about where we want to go
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00:26:12,113 --> 00:26:16,659
in the future, as far as, uh,
trying to respond to that.
461
00:26:16,659 --> 00:26:19,578
You know, that-- that
it's not really that we need
462
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:21,747
to get out there
and convince people
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00:26:22,623 --> 00:26:24,333
that there's a better way
to live,
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00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:27,420
uh, because plenty of them
are already convinced.
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00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:31,048
[birds chirp]
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00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:38,389
[reverent music]
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00:26:38,389 --> 00:26:40,558
Uh, I had been
in the Peace Corps,
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00:26:40,850 --> 00:26:42,184
spent three years in Borneo
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00:26:42,476 --> 00:26:44,937
with, uh, Native Peoples,
tribal society.
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00:26:45,229 --> 00:26:50,401
And it was all very fascinating
and life-changing.
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00:26:50,401 --> 00:26:53,696
In particular, uh,
coming from an urban, uh,
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00:26:53,696 --> 00:26:55,197
kind of environment,
473
00:26:55,489 --> 00:26:58,826
I was very impressed to see
people who pretty much
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00:26:59,118 --> 00:27:00,661
ran their own lives.
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00:27:00,661 --> 00:27:02,121
They built their houses,
they grew their food,
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00:27:02,413 --> 00:27:04,749
they-- you know, they had
not too much communication
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00:27:05,041 --> 00:27:06,459
with the outside world.
478
00:27:08,377 --> 00:27:10,838
What I had realized was that
these people were probably
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00:27:10,838 --> 00:27:13,549
healthier and happier than
anybody I knew in America,
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00:27:13,841 --> 00:27:17,762
with this, uh, totally
almost opposite lifestyle
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to what we lead here.
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♪
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00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:23,601
And history,
what we call history,
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00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:25,603
is only a couple
thousand years old,
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00:27:25,603 --> 00:27:27,104
since the beginning of writing.
486
00:27:27,396 --> 00:27:30,024
Well, we were here for
a million years before that,
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00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:33,277
doing stuff on this planet.
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00:27:33,277 --> 00:27:35,988
The Bible says that Eden
was a garden,
489
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,533
and humans were put in there
to dress it, and keep it.
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00:27:40,785 --> 00:27:43,621
I don't get a lot of my ideas
out of the Bible,
491
00:27:43,913 --> 00:27:47,750
but that's, I think,
a very succinct expression
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of a human niche,
of a successful human niche.
493
00:27:53,297 --> 00:27:55,591
It's too bad the Bible
then says we got kicked out.
494
00:27:55,883 --> 00:27:57,093
[chuckles]
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00:27:57,385 --> 00:27:59,220
Because we didn't,
we just left voluntarily,
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00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:02,306
and we could go back in
if we want to.
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00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:06,394
[birds chirp]
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00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:10,022
[insects buzz]
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00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:11,065
[woodpecker thudding]
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{\an8}[Patrick] We're here at my yurt,
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{\an8}where I've lived for...
502
00:28:20,199 --> 00:28:21,492
{\an8}almost three and a half years,
503
00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:27,206
{\an8}and it was the first, like,
permanent structure we built.
504
00:28:27,498 --> 00:28:28,624
Before that, I was just living
505
00:28:29,125 --> 00:28:31,544
a full spring and summer
just out of a tent.
506
00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:34,755
I've known Joe
for almost a decade.
507
00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:37,508
He wasn't the quickest
friend I ever made,
508
00:28:37,508 --> 00:28:38,551
but he's one of the, like,
509
00:28:40,636 --> 00:28:42,430
most amazing friends
I've ever had.
510
00:28:43,264 --> 00:28:45,599
And very much the process
of becoming his friend
511
00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:50,438
were totally and specifically
inspirational to this.
512
00:28:52,606 --> 00:28:55,192
I think he really wanted to fuel
that commitment in me
513
00:28:55,192 --> 00:28:57,486
that he felt 50 years ago,
514
00:28:57,945 --> 00:29:00,656
and wanted to support
and nurture that as a part
515
00:29:00,656 --> 00:29:02,575
of, like, that's what he does,
516
00:29:02,575 --> 00:29:04,118
and that's what he's always
wanted to see.
517
00:29:06,787 --> 00:29:08,497
Gardens are pretty quiet.
518
00:29:08,497 --> 00:29:10,166
I just cover-cropped everything,
519
00:29:10,166 --> 00:29:12,501
and I've been turning
the goat loose in there
520
00:29:12,793 --> 00:29:15,171
to just root around,
and crap everywhere.
521
00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:21,010
So we have a pretty
diverse medicine garden
522
00:29:21,010 --> 00:29:22,219
that's back over here,
523
00:29:22,595 --> 00:29:24,430
that we're sorta doubling
up for next year.
524
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:25,931
And there we're growing, like,
525
00:29:26,223 --> 00:29:28,934
a pretty wide variety
of mostly garden medicinals.
526
00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:35,232
And then there are a lot
of, like, staple foods
527
00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:38,486
that are very easy to grow,
and kind of, like,
528
00:29:38,486 --> 00:29:41,447
give you the most bang
for your buck.
529
00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:42,698
[goat bleating]
530
00:29:45,743 --> 00:29:47,578
And this will be where
we have, like, classes.
531
00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:50,289
It's gonna be our apothecary
where we do a lot of our, like,
532
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:53,417
plant medicine making,
and things like that.
533
00:29:54,084 --> 00:29:56,128
Like, we're not gonna be
total hermits our whole lives.
534
00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:57,796
Like, we're gonna have
classes out here,
535
00:29:57,796 --> 00:29:59,465
and do some workshops,
536
00:29:59,465 --> 00:30:01,091
and some events,
and things like that.
537
00:30:01,091 --> 00:30:03,928
And we wanted some
public-facing infrastructure
538
00:30:03,928 --> 00:30:06,931
that, um, is akin, again,
539
00:30:07,223 --> 00:30:08,390
to how Mountain Gardens
is set up.
540
00:30:13,729 --> 00:30:18,067
This is gonna be a library.
541
00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:22,988
An old-school,
Mountain Garden-style library.
542
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,908
This is what we were working
on right when the fire happened.
543
00:30:28,035 --> 00:30:29,995
We took a lot of the time
and a lot of the resources
544
00:30:29,995 --> 00:30:31,121
that were going into
the build here
545
00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:34,166
and diverted them
in Joe's direction
546
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:38,128
for the last year and a half.
547
00:30:38,128 --> 00:30:40,798
Until I saw what that meant
when somebody spends, like,
548
00:30:41,090 --> 00:30:45,344
decades accumulating everything
that there is to know
549
00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:46,679
about some particular,
550
00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:48,973
very interesting topics,
like bats.
551
00:30:50,683 --> 00:30:52,059
Mind-bending.
552
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,938
And something I really wanted
for myself ever since then.
553
00:30:56,230 --> 00:31:00,568
So, another tick of inspiration
554
00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:04,280
from Joe Hollis,
and his life's work.
555
00:31:05,573 --> 00:31:06,615
Gotta have a library.
556
00:31:09,159 --> 00:31:10,244
[woodpecker thudding]
557
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,121
[Patrick] Okay.
558
00:31:13,289 --> 00:31:16,709
[soft hum of distant
conversation]
559
00:31:17,167 --> 00:31:19,003
[drill whirring]
560
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,633
[drill whirring in bursts]
561
00:31:25,467 --> 00:31:26,510
[woodpecker thudding]
562
00:31:44,111 --> 00:31:45,487
{\an8}[insects buzzing]
563
00:31:50,743 --> 00:31:51,744
[Joe] What's up?
564
00:31:52,578 --> 00:31:56,707
I have some very significant
news about my health.
565
00:31:59,668 --> 00:32:04,632
The news is that I have
stage four cancer.
566
00:32:08,093 --> 00:32:11,555
CT scan done today shows
a definite malignant mass
567
00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:15,601
at the head of the pancreas,
with a resulting blockage
568
00:32:15,601 --> 00:32:17,853
of the pancreatic duct,
bile duct,
569
00:32:18,687 --> 00:32:20,356
SMA, whatever that means.
570
00:32:21,357 --> 00:32:25,110
He has evidence of metastatic
lesions to the liver
571
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:28,030
and lymph nodes,
so it's spreading around.
572
00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:32,910
This is just my, uh,
general practitioner,
573
00:32:34,203 --> 00:32:36,330
who said that I might have
three months.
574
00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:37,581
[Kate] Oh, shit.
575
00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:42,586
But on the whole,
I'm pretty poorly disposed
576
00:32:42,878 --> 00:32:45,631
towards doing anything
that's gonna diminish
577
00:32:45,923 --> 00:32:50,636
my quality of life,
which I think chemo does do.
578
00:32:53,806 --> 00:32:57,685
Uh, my entire concern
is the future of Mountain Garden
579
00:32:57,685 --> 00:32:58,686
much more than my--
580
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:00,688
[Kate] Than your personal, okay.
581
00:33:00,688 --> 00:33:02,064
That is my happiness.
582
00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:03,857
- And there's--
- [Kate] Yeah.
583
00:33:04,108 --> 00:33:06,944
There's not a distinction
between the two.
584
00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:11,573
And, um, and it's just been
huge for me
585
00:33:11,865 --> 00:33:14,076
that Ryan has agreed
to stick around.
586
00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:19,039
[leaves rustle in the breeze]
587
00:33:22,376 --> 00:33:24,753
[birds chirping]
588
00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:38,684
I've been watching him decline
in health for a while,
589
00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:43,522
and I had a feeling that there
was something big going on.
590
00:33:43,814 --> 00:33:44,982
Um...
591
00:33:45,274 --> 00:33:48,819
So when he told me
the-- the prognosis,
592
00:33:49,111 --> 00:33:51,238
um, well, I mean,
I was instantly saddened,
593
00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:52,865
and I, like, put my hand
on his leg,
594
00:33:52,865 --> 00:33:55,200
and then I, like,
gave him a hug,
595
00:33:55,492 --> 00:33:58,203
and got really overwhelmed
and sad,
596
00:33:58,203 --> 00:33:59,538
but he, like, didn't--
he wasn't--
597
00:33:59,830 --> 00:34:01,206
that's not what he was up for,
truthfully.
598
00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:02,374
He was like, it's okay,
it's okay.
599
00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:03,834
Like, it's all right, I'm good.
600
00:34:06,628 --> 00:34:09,047
When he asked me to stick around
and shepherd it forward,
601
00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:12,593
I was overwhelmed, humbled.
602
00:34:12,593 --> 00:34:13,927
Uh...
603
00:34:16,972 --> 00:34:18,182
Yeah, I was totally taken aback.
604
00:34:19,141 --> 00:34:20,517
Um, so...
605
00:34:21,226 --> 00:34:22,478
I think it's a big
responsibility,
606
00:34:22,478 --> 00:34:24,062
and a beautiful project,
607
00:34:24,813 --> 00:34:27,399
um, and I think the right people
are gonna show up,
608
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,318
and it's gonna be able to be
what he wants it to be.
609
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:39,995
[clock ticking]
610
00:34:46,335 --> 00:34:50,214
All right, I just want to show
you guys some weeding
611
00:34:50,214 --> 00:34:51,590
right here around my house,
612
00:34:52,466 --> 00:34:54,384
because there's a lot
of good stuff in this area.
613
00:34:57,846 --> 00:35:00,766
All right, I don't know how much
you all are gonna remember,
614
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,186
but try and remember
as much as you can.
615
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:07,773
This is the Shortia,
616
00:35:09,858 --> 00:35:11,068
oconee bells.
617
00:35:12,319 --> 00:35:15,113
An extremely rare
and desirable wildflower
618
00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:17,491
that we want to keep.
619
00:35:18,283 --> 00:35:21,703
We want to get rid
of all this stuff.
620
00:35:21,703 --> 00:35:24,289
That looks like a little
currant or gooseberry.
621
00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:25,374
We want that.
622
00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:27,709
This is all more ajuga
that we don't want.
623
00:35:29,795 --> 00:35:31,880
And we don't want goldenrod.
624
00:35:34,007 --> 00:35:38,220
Uh, and then it gets back
into that Schisandra stuff.
625
00:35:39,763 --> 00:35:41,974
It'd be nice to get a bunch
of this Spikenard fruit,
626
00:35:42,266 --> 00:35:43,517
and do something with it.
627
00:35:43,809 --> 00:35:45,102
They're-- they're quite
delicious.
628
00:35:45,394 --> 00:35:46,728
- Have you eaten any?
- [Kate] No.
629
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:47,855
Well, they're not bad.
630
00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:49,106
[Kate] Okay.
631
00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:54,736
Oh, wow. It's nice.
632
00:35:56,697 --> 00:35:58,699
[Joe] That looks like a really
nice little fern there.
633
00:35:58,991 --> 00:36:00,450
It's got a tag.
634
00:36:00,742 --> 00:36:03,245
So we're going to start making
our own tags pretty soon.
635
00:36:03,954 --> 00:36:06,748
We've got the 75
that that guy made for us,
636
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,001
but it's by no means
everything in the garden.
637
00:36:14,882 --> 00:36:15,924
Echinacea pallida.
638
00:36:17,926 --> 00:36:21,847
They're better than the other
Echinacea, medicinally.
639
00:36:23,307 --> 00:36:24,349
We're good to get done.
640
00:36:26,268 --> 00:36:28,687
And that's the end of this walk.
I've gotta go lay down.
641
00:36:28,979 --> 00:36:30,063
[Kate] Okay.
642
00:36:30,063 --> 00:36:32,983
[rain patters softly]
643
00:36:49,958 --> 00:36:51,710
[low hum of chatter]
644
00:36:54,338 --> 00:36:56,757
[rain patters softly]
645
00:37:03,347 --> 00:37:04,848
[birds chirping]
646
00:37:05,766 --> 00:37:08,435
[clock ticking]
647
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:17,444
{\an8}[Dr. Hummel] So I read through
your case a little bit,
648
00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:20,572
{\an8}and, uh, you know,
learned about what's going on.
649
00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:22,324
{\an8}So I'd love to hear,
in your words,
650
00:37:22,324 --> 00:37:23,951
just kind of how
things started.
651
00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,578
And it seems like it's happened
pretty rapidly,
652
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:29,331
in terms of a diagnosis.
653
00:37:29,331 --> 00:37:31,333
[Joe] As far as the cancer goes,
654
00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:35,712
so, I started having stomach
pain about a month ago.
655
00:37:36,171 --> 00:37:39,383
Eventually they said,
"You need to get a CT scan."
656
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:44,137
And that was, I think,
about a week or ten days ago.
657
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:47,140
And that's when this
was discovered.
658
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:48,600
- [Dr. Hummel] Mm-hmm.
- [Joe] Anyway,
659
00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:50,477
now it's progressed enough,
Now I'm on hospice.
660
00:37:51,812 --> 00:37:55,315
I've got some morphine, uh...
661
00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:57,234
that I can take,
662
00:37:57,234 --> 00:37:59,569
and then I can supplement that,
apparently, with this oxycodone.
663
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:01,196
I've had a--
664
00:38:01,196 --> 00:38:02,572
I've not been able
to sleep through the night.
665
00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:05,075
I wake up at-- in the--
at three a.m. or so,
666
00:38:05,367 --> 00:38:07,119
from the
pain, usually.
667
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,621
There's issues
about constipation,
668
00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:11,540
which I never had
before in my life.
669
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:15,127
And lots of, uh, issues
around heartburn,
670
00:38:15,127 --> 00:38:17,004
which I also
never had before in my life.
671
00:38:17,004 --> 00:38:18,213
Everything's new.
672
00:38:18,505 --> 00:38:20,215
I've never had any
of these problems,
673
00:38:20,215 --> 00:38:25,012
or anything ro-- remotely
resembling these problems.
674
00:38:25,012 --> 00:38:26,847
[Dr. Hummel]
Let me ask you this.
675
00:38:27,139 --> 00:38:29,558
It sounds like they decided
not to do any therapy for you,
676
00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:32,310
and instead just put you
in hospice.
677
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:34,021
Was there a thought
that they didn't think
678
00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:35,355
you would have any benefit?
679
00:38:36,273 --> 00:38:38,316
At this point, I'm not
really worried about
680
00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:41,111
or thinking that it's going
to ever be cured.
681
00:38:41,987 --> 00:38:43,905
I'm just looking
for a little more time,
682
00:38:44,197 --> 00:38:48,910
because I'm desperately trying
to, uh, turn my place here
683
00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:50,704
into a kind of an eco-village,
684
00:38:50,996 --> 00:38:53,623
and I've got to recruit
the right people for it.
685
00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:57,544
It's going to take about six
people to carry on my work here.
686
00:38:57,544 --> 00:38:59,296
[Dr. Hummel] To carry out your
work there.
687
00:38:59,588 --> 00:39:02,507
Uh, So I'm just looking
for a little extra time,
688
00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:05,052
but I don't want-- the--
the chemo's just gonna--
689
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,179
It might give me extra time,
690
00:39:07,179 --> 00:39:09,347
but I'll be functioning
even more poorly,
691
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:13,351
so I won't be able to take
advantage of that time.
692
00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:19,232
["Oh Death" sung
by Donna Ray Norton]
693
00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:20,400
♪ Oh, Death ♪
694
00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:23,195
♪ Oh, Death ♪
695
00:39:23,612 --> 00:39:25,072
♪ Won't you spare me ♪
696
00:39:25,072 --> 00:39:29,034
♪ Over another year ♪
697
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:32,162
♪ Well, what is this ♪
698
00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:34,164
♪ That I can't see ♪
699
00:39:34,456 --> 00:39:36,458
♪ With ice-cold hands ♪
700
00:39:36,458 --> 00:39:39,252
♪ Taking hold on me ♪
701
00:39:40,587 --> 00:39:42,631
♪ Well, I am Death ♪
702
00:39:42,631 --> 00:39:44,716
♪ None can excel ♪
703
00:39:45,008 --> 00:39:46,968
♪ I'll open the door ♪
704
00:39:46,968 --> 00:39:49,679
♪ To heaven or hell ♪
705
00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:52,933
♪ Oh, Death ♪
706
00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:55,352
♪ Someone would pray ♪
707
00:39:55,644 --> 00:40:01,149
♪ Please don't take me
'til another day ♪
708
00:40:01,149 --> 00:40:03,110
♪ The children pray ♪
709
00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:04,903
♪ The preacher preached ♪
710
00:40:05,195 --> 00:40:09,407
♪ Time and mercy
is out of your reach ♪
711
00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:12,911
♪ In death I've come ♪
712
00:40:13,203 --> 00:40:15,247
♪ To take the soul ♪
713
00:40:15,247 --> 00:40:16,623
♪ To leave the body ♪
714
00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:19,626
♪ And leave it cold ♪
715
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:24,923
♪ To drop the flesh
Off of the frame ♪
716
00:40:25,215 --> 00:40:26,925
♪ The earth and worms ♪
717
00:40:27,217 --> 00:40:29,845
♪ Both have claim ♪
718
00:40:30,887 --> 00:40:35,433
♪ My wealth is all
at your command ♪
719
00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:39,646
♪ If you'll remove
your icy hand ♪
720
00:40:40,355 --> 00:40:42,357
♪ Now, Death, oh, Death ♪
721
00:40:42,357 --> 00:40:44,734
♪ Please consider my age ♪
722
00:40:45,026 --> 00:40:49,072
♪ Please don't take me
at this stage ♪
723
00:40:50,323 --> 00:40:52,159
♪ Oh, the young ♪
724
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:54,536
♪ The rich, the poor ♪
725
00:40:54,828 --> 00:41:00,125
♪ They're all alike
to me, you know ♪
726
00:41:00,125 --> 00:41:02,460
♪ Oh, Death ♪
727
00:41:03,086 --> 00:41:05,338
♪ Oh, oh, Death ♪
728
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:08,175
♪ Won't you spare me over ♪
729
00:41:08,175 --> 00:41:11,136
♪ Another year ♪
730
00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:14,639
♪ Won't you spare me over ♪
731
00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:17,517
♪ Another year ♪
732
00:41:18,435 --> 00:41:21,188
♪ Won't you spare me over ♪
733
00:41:21,479 --> 00:41:25,567
♪ 'Til another year ♪
734
00:41:36,244 --> 00:41:38,830
[birds chirping]
735
00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:48,173
[Rhea] These were teeny-tiny
trees,
736
00:41:48,465 --> 00:41:51,259
every single one of these.
737
00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:55,096
Pretty amazing
how they've grown up.
738
00:41:59,851 --> 00:42:02,646
I really think that Joe should
be buried up here,
739
00:42:03,438 --> 00:42:05,190
because this
is where it started.
740
00:42:08,193 --> 00:42:11,446
{\an8}40 years ago, 1983,
741
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:15,992
{\an8}uh, my life in New England
was falling apart,
742
00:42:16,701 --> 00:42:18,245
{\an8}and I decided to follow
the ridgetop
743
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:19,996
{\an8}of the Appalachian Mountains,
744
00:42:20,789 --> 00:42:21,957
{\an8}and see where I landed.
745
00:42:23,792 --> 00:42:25,835
Coming all the way
from New Hampshire,
746
00:42:26,878 --> 00:42:29,089
and I had a dog,
a little black dog.
747
00:42:29,965 --> 00:42:31,299
And I thought
I was like Dorothy,
748
00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:35,512
following the yellow brick road,
and looking for a home.
749
00:42:36,805 --> 00:42:39,182
And I pull the truck up,
750
00:42:39,641 --> 00:42:43,520
and out of the cabin
comes the wizard.
751
00:42:44,646 --> 00:42:46,022
He came out.
752
00:42:46,314 --> 00:42:49,734
Joe had, like, more hair,
and it was, like, out.
753
00:42:50,402 --> 00:42:52,696
And he just came, and hunched.
754
00:42:52,696 --> 00:42:53,989
He was always hunched over,
755
00:42:54,656 --> 00:42:56,032
because he's always
looking at plants.
756
00:42:56,866 --> 00:43:00,161
And he looked up,
and I just laughed.
757
00:43:00,161 --> 00:43:01,288
I said, "You're the wizard."
758
00:43:01,288 --> 00:43:02,789
[laughs]
759
00:43:03,081 --> 00:43:04,082
"Hi, I'm Dorothy."
760
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:06,793
I just loved it.
761
00:43:06,793 --> 00:43:08,795
It felt like, you know,
paradise.
762
00:43:12,716 --> 00:43:14,634
So, Joe said I could
live in the yurt
763
00:43:14,926 --> 00:43:16,303
if I worked in the garden,
764
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:20,056
and then I started
to build the house.
765
00:43:20,348 --> 00:43:21,349
And I was pregnant.
766
00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:25,103
When I became pregnant
is when I married Joe,
767
00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:29,733
and then we were married
for ten years.
768
00:43:30,984 --> 00:43:37,699
My only regrets is that
when I left, I just left.
769
00:43:39,743 --> 00:43:43,621
And Joe was angry that I left,
770
00:43:44,456 --> 00:43:47,334
and we hadn't talked
in 25 years.
771
00:43:49,085 --> 00:43:51,004
So, that's a long time.
772
00:43:53,340 --> 00:43:56,301
So I regret that.
773
00:43:56,301 --> 00:44:01,181
And it's sad that tragedy
has to bring us together again,
774
00:44:02,474 --> 00:44:03,516
but...
775
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:05,602
that's--
776
00:44:06,603 --> 00:44:07,645
that's life.
777
00:44:09,356 --> 00:44:13,276
We all have these chapters
that make up a book,
778
00:44:14,611 --> 00:44:18,907
and Joe is quite the character
of those chapters.
779
00:44:20,533 --> 00:44:22,285
It's pretty amazing
what he's done.
780
00:44:28,458 --> 00:44:31,044
[birds chirping]
781
00:44:38,843 --> 00:44:40,261
[Jeffrey] There's a ton
of blue cohosh right there.
782
00:44:40,261 --> 00:44:41,805
Oh, yeah.
Do you wanna grab it?
783
00:44:42,097 --> 00:44:43,473
- Yeah, do you have a bag?
- Yeah, here.
784
00:44:49,437 --> 00:44:51,022
So there's a fair amount
of ginseng up here.
785
00:44:51,314 --> 00:44:56,778
I've been trying to protect it
for 20 or 30 years.
786
00:45:03,785 --> 00:45:07,747
So do you have any memories
of collecting ginseng
787
00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:10,333
in your youth?
788
00:45:11,376 --> 00:45:12,877
Yeah, I mean,
all sorts of things.
789
00:45:13,169 --> 00:45:15,171
Just wild crafting.
790
00:45:15,964 --> 00:45:20,552
I'm not sure I have a strong
gauge on what normal
791
00:45:20,844 --> 00:45:24,806
kid things are,
but I would say
792
00:45:25,098 --> 00:45:26,683
traipsing around the woods
793
00:45:26,683 --> 00:45:29,936
was definitely a huge part
of growing up.
794
00:45:33,022 --> 00:45:35,900
Part of my dad's legacy
is the work here,
795
00:45:36,192 --> 00:45:38,820
and then the other part is...
796
00:45:40,989 --> 00:45:45,326
influencing, uh, how people
perceive the world.
797
00:45:47,370 --> 00:45:51,541
It has definitely affected
how I perceive it.
798
00:45:51,833 --> 00:45:52,959
[sighs with effort]
799
00:45:58,298 --> 00:46:00,300
[birds chirp]
800
00:46:04,721 --> 00:46:07,307
[clock ticking]
801
00:46:14,689 --> 00:46:16,649
[Joe] I read to Jeffrey
at night,
802
00:46:16,649 --> 00:46:18,902
and it was a large
variety of stuff.
803
00:46:19,194 --> 00:46:21,654
I'm curious which things
you remember.
804
00:46:22,697 --> 00:46:24,491
Yeah. Oh, gosh.
805
00:46:24,491 --> 00:46:26,618
I mean, it was always
a billion things
806
00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:29,454
that were, um,
807
00:46:31,706 --> 00:46:33,708
beyond my level at the time.
808
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,877
[laughs] Um...
809
00:46:36,169 --> 00:46:37,295
Because I was trying to elevate.
810
00:46:37,545 --> 00:46:39,506
Right, yes, well,
you did a good job.
811
00:46:39,923 --> 00:46:42,926
And then there was a certain
amount of just singing.
812
00:46:43,593 --> 00:46:45,637
I still, I will just...
813
00:46:47,013 --> 00:46:48,389
be sitting outside somewhere,
814
00:46:48,389 --> 00:46:50,934
and getting eaten up
by mosquitoes,
815
00:46:51,226 --> 00:46:54,229
and start singing
"Black Flies" to myself.
816
00:46:54,229 --> 00:46:55,647
- [both laugh]
- Because you sang--
817
00:46:55,897 --> 00:46:57,732
- ♪ The little black flies ♪
- Yeah.
818
00:46:57,732 --> 00:47:00,818
♪ Always the black flies
no matter where you go ♪
819
00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:04,072
♪ Die with the black flies
picking your bones ♪
820
00:47:04,364 --> 00:47:08,117
- Yeah.
- ♪ In North Ontario, ♪
821
00:47:08,409 --> 00:47:10,995
♪ In North Ontario ♪
822
00:47:13,331 --> 00:47:14,874
[Jeffrey] As far as memories,
823
00:47:14,874 --> 00:47:17,502
it's just all the celebrations
up here.
824
00:47:17,794 --> 00:47:18,795
[Joe] Pretty well-known.
825
00:47:20,129 --> 00:47:23,049
We had the hot tub going,
and there'd be a drum circle,
826
00:47:23,049 --> 00:47:25,718
and there'd just be people
wandering around in the garden.
827
00:47:28,638 --> 00:47:31,015
Totally regret that I never
kept a guestbook,
828
00:47:32,058 --> 00:47:34,435
or even a list of all
the apprentices that were here,
829
00:47:34,727 --> 00:47:36,604
by year, by year,
and all the visitors.
830
00:47:36,604 --> 00:47:38,606
I mean, it would be terrific.
831
00:47:38,606 --> 00:47:39,649
It would be a great book.
832
00:47:41,067 --> 00:47:42,652
But it never happened.
833
00:47:45,488 --> 00:47:48,366
It's all just in people's
memory banks.
834
00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:52,912
Hmm.
835
00:47:56,499 --> 00:47:58,668
[birds chirping softly]
836
00:48:02,672 --> 00:48:04,674
[leaves rustle in the wind]
837
00:48:14,475 --> 00:48:17,520
[hum of chatter]
838
00:48:18,563 --> 00:48:20,690
[hammer thuds]
839
00:48:21,608 --> 00:48:23,818
[drill whirs]
840
00:48:24,402 --> 00:48:25,570
[man] Yeah, one more time!
841
00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:27,905
Okay.
842
00:48:29,073 --> 00:48:31,659
[Patrick] We're kind of at
a culminating moment
843
00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:33,202
of two years of work.
844
00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:37,040
Two Marches ago was when
this fire occurred
845
00:48:37,332 --> 00:48:38,499
that really took out
the jeweled--
846
00:48:38,791 --> 00:48:40,335
cen-- the crown jewel
of the entirety
847
00:48:40,335 --> 00:48:42,503
of Mountain Gardens,
the library, apothecary,
848
00:48:42,503 --> 00:48:44,130
kitchen, gathering space,
849
00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:45,548
common area, classroom,
850
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,593
all-purpose centerpiece
to the whole property.
851
00:48:48,885 --> 00:48:50,762
So this amazing crew
of ten professionals
852
00:48:51,054 --> 00:48:55,141
has showed up today to really
just see this through
853
00:48:55,433 --> 00:48:57,644
to a clean and succinct ending,
854
00:48:57,644 --> 00:49:00,688
so that Joe
has his library back.
855
00:49:00,688 --> 00:49:04,484
Mountain Gardens has its real
center of gravity returned.
856
00:49:04,484 --> 00:49:06,778
[workers chatter]
857
00:49:06,778 --> 00:49:07,904
[hammer thuds]
858
00:49:08,196 --> 00:49:10,615
And I don't know, like,
859
00:49:10,907 --> 00:49:13,284
primarily it's just,
like, I saw--
860
00:49:13,284 --> 00:49:15,036
I've seen Joe for all
of five minutes this morning,
861
00:49:15,036 --> 00:49:16,954
but I saw, like,
the look on his face
862
00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:19,499
when he saw what we all see,
863
00:49:19,499 --> 00:49:21,042
that this is gonna be
done today.
864
00:49:21,042 --> 00:49:22,168
[drill whirs]
865
00:49:26,839 --> 00:49:29,634
You know, after seeing you,
Kevin, it's pioneer Kevin.
866
00:49:29,634 --> 00:49:32,095
- Right on. For the most part.
- Thank you, everyone.
867
00:49:32,095 --> 00:49:33,680
- Hey, Joe. Thank you.
- Yeah, I appreciate it.
868
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:35,932
Thank you.
869
00:49:35,932 --> 00:49:38,059
This is like a dream.
870
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,687
- Now.
- My pleasure.
871
00:49:40,978 --> 00:49:43,147
[birds chirping]
872
00:50:06,629 --> 00:50:09,799
- [phone ringing]
- We're gonna have a Zoom call?
873
00:50:10,425 --> 00:50:12,635
We're gonna have
a Zoom call with Lee.
874
00:50:12,635 --> 00:50:14,971
- [phone ringing]
- [man] No, it's not.
875
00:50:15,263 --> 00:50:16,556
- [woman] No, it's not.
- [man] It's Caroline.
876
00:50:18,641 --> 00:50:20,601
{\an8}[phone ringing]
877
00:50:20,601 --> 00:50:21,978
{\an8}[buttons beeping]
878
00:50:22,270 --> 00:50:24,480
{\an8}- Hello?
- [Caroline] Is this Joe?
879
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,940
{\an8}Yes, it is.
880
00:50:26,232 --> 00:50:29,485
[Caroline] How can I be
of support to you?
881
00:50:29,485 --> 00:50:31,821
[Joe] I've got, uh,
maybe a month to live,
882
00:50:32,113 --> 00:50:33,322
maybe not quite.
883
00:50:33,906 --> 00:50:35,408
[clears throat] So I'm--
884
00:50:36,492 --> 00:50:40,288
Um, I'm working with a
book called, Preparing to Die.
885
00:50:41,205 --> 00:50:46,586
This one is very much following
the Tibetan tradition.
886
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:49,088
[Caroline] Do you
have familiarity
887
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:50,590
with Tibetan Buddhism?
888
00:50:50,882 --> 00:50:51,883
No, I do not.
889
00:50:52,175 --> 00:50:54,177
So I'm in deep water.
890
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,596
I'm just trying to work
my way through it.
891
00:50:57,930 --> 00:51:00,016
[Caroline] When we no longer--
892
00:51:00,016 --> 00:51:02,560
when consciousness and karma,
that is what is gonna travel.
893
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,562
- [Joe] Right.
- [Caroline] When that no longer
894
00:51:04,562 --> 00:51:07,899
is of body,
it can be very confusing.
895
00:51:07,899 --> 00:51:09,358
[Joe] Yes, I gather. [chuckles]
896
00:51:09,609 --> 00:51:11,235
[Caroline] Yes, and you might
be experiencing
897
00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:12,904
some of that confusion now,
898
00:51:12,904 --> 00:51:15,072
as the elements
are dissolving in your body.
899
00:51:15,948 --> 00:51:18,701
Yeah, I find myself getting
weaker every day.
900
00:51:20,036 --> 00:51:22,497
[Caroline] What the--
the Tibetan Book of the Dead
901
00:51:22,789 --> 00:51:27,001
is telling us is that
if we are, um,
902
00:51:27,293 --> 00:51:30,713
experiencing anything other
than loving kindness
903
00:51:31,005 --> 00:51:32,423
and compassion,
904
00:51:33,049 --> 00:51:36,719
it's a projection of the mind,
the mind that is traveling.
905
00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:40,848
Okay, so any time from now
until the time
906
00:51:40,848 --> 00:51:43,601
you take your last
gross breath,
907
00:51:44,143 --> 00:51:47,939
any time that you're fearful
or angry or irritated,
908
00:51:48,231 --> 00:51:49,690
if your mind allows,
909
00:51:49,982 --> 00:51:52,527
you'll recognize
that it's a projection.
910
00:51:52,527 --> 00:51:55,238
As soon as you recognize
that it is a projection,
911
00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:56,864
you're liberated from it.
912
00:51:58,115 --> 00:51:59,659
- Yes, that's very good.
- [Caroline] Okay?
913
00:51:59,909 --> 00:52:03,329
And-- but in truth, I'm not
having any such feelings.
914
00:52:03,955 --> 00:52:05,498
- [Caroline] Okay, good.
- I've-- I have a terrific
915
00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:07,708
- support group.
- [Caroline] Good.
916
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,794
And we're having a lot,
we're really enjoying--
917
00:52:10,086 --> 00:52:13,756
I've-- the last week or so
has been some of the best days
918
00:52:14,048 --> 00:52:15,591
of my life since Covid.
919
00:52:15,591 --> 00:52:17,009
[Caroline] Oh, that's wonderful.
920
00:52:17,009 --> 00:52:18,678
Yeah, so I'm really good
on that front.
921
00:52:18,970 --> 00:52:20,054
[Caroline] How are you
experiencing it?
922
00:52:21,389 --> 00:52:23,724
[Joe] I've been saying
for several years to people
923
00:52:23,724 --> 00:52:26,143
that I'm ready to die.
924
00:52:27,103 --> 00:52:30,314
That my quality of life
has deteriorated very badly.
925
00:52:30,606 --> 00:52:31,983
- And--
- [Caroline] Uh-huh.
926
00:52:31,983 --> 00:52:35,111
And the news, global,
poli-- national,
927
00:52:35,403 --> 00:52:37,405
w-- ecological, whatever,
928
00:52:37,405 --> 00:52:40,491
all the news
is exceedingly gloomy,
929
00:52:40,491 --> 00:52:43,619
with no signs that anything's
gonna get any better.
930
00:52:44,495 --> 00:52:48,374
So, yeah, I'd be just as happy
to leave, to not come back.
931
00:52:48,791 --> 00:52:50,543
[Caroline] Right.
932
00:52:50,835 --> 00:52:53,546
But I'd be torn, because I love
the planet so much, you know.
933
00:52:53,546 --> 00:52:55,590
- [Caroline] I know. I know.
- It's so beautiful.
934
00:52:56,424 --> 00:52:59,302
Hard to tear yourself away
from all this beauty.
935
00:53:03,306 --> 00:53:04,807
[birds chirp distantly]
936
00:53:07,768 --> 00:53:12,857
[playing mournful,
reverent tune]
937
00:53:29,206 --> 00:53:35,046
♪
938
00:53:42,595 --> 00:53:48,059
[reverent, mournful
tune continues]
939
00:53:56,108 --> 00:54:02,156
♪
940
00:54:10,081 --> 00:54:12,291
[leaves rustle softly]
941
00:54:18,464 --> 00:54:21,634
[Joe] Apparently, you're gonna
get the total, uh, clearance.
942
00:54:21,926 --> 00:54:24,220
So, this is Peace Corps
training in Hawaii.
943
00:54:25,346 --> 00:54:27,473
Uh, we were there
for three months.
944
00:54:31,394 --> 00:54:33,187
That looks like Mount Kinabalu.
945
00:54:33,604 --> 00:54:34,772
That was up in Sabah.
946
00:54:35,064 --> 00:54:36,565
I went there for a vacation
one time.
947
00:54:37,483 --> 00:54:39,443
It's the highest mountain
for, like, a million miles
948
00:54:39,735 --> 00:54:41,320
- in every direction.
- [man] Oh, wow.
949
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,780
[Joe] It just sticks up
in the middle of Borneo.
950
00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:48,244
Just wait for this mountain
explorer photo coming up.
951
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,371
[Joe] Pardon me?
952
00:54:50,371 --> 00:54:51,580
Oh, you'll see.
953
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,709
- [laughs] Wow.
- Yeah.
954
00:54:55,001 --> 00:54:57,128
- [all laughing]
- [Joe] That's awesome, huh?
955
00:54:57,878 --> 00:55:00,965
- [all exclaiming]
- [Joe] And me, and our guide.
956
00:55:04,301 --> 00:55:06,137
Oh, this guy's a Punan.
957
00:55:06,762 --> 00:55:08,264
So, they're totally nomadic.
958
00:55:08,264 --> 00:55:09,598
They live out in the woods.
959
00:55:10,391 --> 00:55:12,643
[clears throat]
They're almost extinct.
960
00:55:13,644 --> 00:55:15,896
Lots of effort's been made
to save them.
961
00:55:16,188 --> 00:55:17,606
They're very...
962
00:55:17,898 --> 00:55:20,526
out with blowpipes,
and do all interesting things.
963
00:55:20,526 --> 00:55:24,321
So, uh, they don't have clocks
or watches or calendars.
964
00:55:30,828 --> 00:55:32,621
And I don't know
what that's about.
965
00:55:32,621 --> 00:55:34,707
That is not Malay architecture.
966
00:55:34,707 --> 00:55:36,417
I believe that said Bangkok.
967
00:55:36,917 --> 00:55:39,045
Yeah, it sure looks
like Bangkok.
968
00:55:40,337 --> 00:55:42,673
But I don't even remember
going to Bangkok.
969
00:55:42,965 --> 00:55:44,633
[all laugh]
970
00:55:44,633 --> 00:55:45,676
- Nobody does.
- Yeah.
971
00:55:45,926 --> 00:55:47,970
Nobody remembers
goin' to Bangkok.
972
00:55:49,472 --> 00:55:51,057
[Joe] So, this
is a church there.
973
00:55:51,348 --> 00:55:53,184
- [Patrick] Wow.
- [Joe] The Catholic Church,
974
00:55:53,476 --> 00:55:54,935
the, uh, bishop there,
975
00:55:55,561 --> 00:55:57,188
was a huge supporter
of the arts.
976
00:55:58,022 --> 00:56:00,733
And he hired the very
best artists.
977
00:56:02,068 --> 00:56:03,527
But that's their art style.
978
00:56:06,072 --> 00:56:07,323
And it shows up in everything.
979
00:56:07,615 --> 00:56:10,034
That beadwork in my house,
my tattoos.
980
00:56:10,326 --> 00:56:11,285
[Ryan] Amazing.
981
00:56:24,673 --> 00:56:25,716
That's everything.
982
00:56:26,467 --> 00:56:28,219
- [Joe] That's it?
- [Jeffrey] That's it.
983
00:56:28,219 --> 00:56:30,262
[Joe] All right.
984
00:56:30,262 --> 00:56:31,555
Thank you, thank you.
985
00:56:32,223 --> 00:56:34,475
- Oh. Yeah.
- [Patrick] That was great.
986
00:56:34,475 --> 00:56:35,684
[Kate] Yeah,
that's really cool.
987
00:56:36,602 --> 00:56:38,687
[Joe] Oh, I have some
really great news tonight.
988
00:56:38,687 --> 00:56:42,066
So, that whole river
was going to be flooded.
989
00:56:43,484 --> 00:56:45,444
Every one of those villages
would have been gone.
990
00:56:46,362 --> 00:56:49,865
Uh, it's this international
scheme that goes on with dams.
991
00:56:49,865 --> 00:56:51,367
[man] And here, too.
992
00:56:51,367 --> 00:56:52,618
[Joe] And it's happening
all over the world.
993
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:54,537
And it's always the most
primitive examples
994
00:56:54,829 --> 00:56:55,871
who really will table it.
995
00:56:56,163 --> 00:56:57,289
Who get it.
996
00:56:58,332 --> 00:57:00,126
It's been going on
for, like, 20 years.
997
00:57:00,126 --> 00:57:01,585
- [man] Wow.
- [Joe] All these primitive
998
00:57:01,877 --> 00:57:04,213
people are standing,
trying to do roadblocks.
999
00:57:04,213 --> 00:57:05,506
- You know? [chuckles]
- [man] Wow.
1000
00:57:05,798 --> 00:57:07,216
[Joe] And it's lost,
they've now lost it.
1001
00:57:07,216 --> 00:57:09,301
And meanwhile,
they're logging away.
1002
00:57:09,301 --> 00:57:11,595
And so there's this huge
timber company
1003
00:57:11,595 --> 00:57:13,681
called Samling International.
1004
00:57:13,973 --> 00:57:16,976
And they're the ones that
are chopping everything down.
1005
00:57:16,976 --> 00:57:20,521
And, uh, Save Our Rivers
is really fighting back.
1006
00:57:20,813 --> 00:57:24,733
And I got an email this morning
that they won the suit.
1007
00:57:25,025 --> 00:57:27,027
- [all cheering]
- Yeah.
1008
00:57:27,319 --> 00:57:28,654
- [man] Wow.
- Yeah!
1009
00:57:28,654 --> 00:57:30,406
- So great.
- [man] That's awesome.
1010
00:57:30,406 --> 00:57:32,241
Yeah, I mean,
that'll change everything.
1011
00:57:32,533 --> 00:57:34,702
Only 'cause if one place
can do it.
1012
00:57:34,702 --> 00:57:35,953
- [others] Yeah.
- You know?
1013
00:57:36,412 --> 00:57:38,122
But it'll get a lot
of international attention.
1014
00:57:38,414 --> 00:57:40,249
It'll be in The New York Times,
that court case.
1015
00:57:40,249 --> 00:57:41,542
[woman] Hmm, wow.
1016
00:57:41,834 --> 00:57:43,252
There was reporters
from all over the world.
1017
00:57:44,086 --> 00:57:46,130
[laughs tearfully]
It breaks me up.
1018
00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:48,799
- [all] Aww!
- I'm just very, very happy.
1019
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:50,301
- [laughs]
- [others exclaiming]
1020
00:57:50,301 --> 00:57:51,343
- [man] That's good.
- Yeah.
1021
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:57,099
[fire crackling]
1022
00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:58,309
[crickets chirping]
1023
00:57:58,726 --> 00:58:00,019
["Black is the Color" sung
by Donna Ray Norton]
1024
00:58:00,019 --> 00:58:02,646
♪ I love my love ♪
1025
00:58:02,646 --> 00:58:05,524
♪ And, well, he knows ♪
1026
00:58:06,817 --> 00:58:09,278
♪ I love the ground ♪
1027
00:58:09,570 --> 00:58:13,616
♪ Whereon he goes ♪
1028
00:58:14,825 --> 00:58:17,620
♪ If you know more ♪
1029
00:58:17,620 --> 00:58:20,915
♪ On Earth I see ♪
1030
00:58:21,790 --> 00:58:25,252
♪ I can't serve you ♪
1031
00:58:25,669 --> 00:58:29,381
♪ As you have me ♪
1032
00:58:29,381 --> 00:58:31,967
♪ But still I hope ♪
1033
00:58:32,259 --> 00:58:35,971
♪ The day will come ♪
1034
00:58:35,971 --> 00:58:39,391
♪ When you and I ♪
1035
00:58:39,892 --> 00:58:44,855
♪ Shall be as one ♪
1036
00:58:44,855 --> 00:58:48,400
♪ I go to the Clyde ♪
1037
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,445
♪ For to mourn and weep ♪
1038
00:58:52,905 --> 00:58:55,115
♪ So dissatisfied ♪
1039
00:58:55,407 --> 00:58:59,328
♪ I never could sleep ♪
1040
00:59:00,371 --> 00:59:02,748
♪ I'll write for you ♪
1041
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,459
♪ A few short lines ♪
1042
00:59:06,460 --> 00:59:09,880
♪ And I'd suffer death ♪
1043
00:59:10,172 --> 00:59:13,759
♪ Ten thousand times ♪
1044
00:59:15,094 --> 00:59:18,347
♪ So fare thee well ♪
1045
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:21,308
♪ My own true love ♪
1046
00:59:22,685 --> 00:59:25,312
♪ Our time has passed ♪
1047
00:59:25,604 --> 00:59:29,858
♪ And I wish you well ♪
1048
00:59:30,859 --> 00:59:33,612
♪ But still I hope ♪
1049
00:59:33,904 --> 00:59:36,532
♪ The day will come ♪
1050
00:59:37,491 --> 00:59:41,036
♪ When you and I ♪
1051
00:59:41,328 --> 00:59:44,748
♪ Shall be as one ♪
1052
00:59:46,250 --> 00:59:50,129
♪ I love my love ♪
1053
00:59:50,421 --> 00:59:53,173
♪ And well, he knows ♪
1054
00:59:55,050 --> 00:59:57,845
♪ I love the ground ♪
1055
00:59:58,137 --> 01:00:03,892
♪ Whereon he goes ♪
1056
01:00:03,892 --> 01:00:07,021
♪ With the prettiest face ♪
1057
01:00:07,021 --> 01:00:11,150
♪ And the neatest hands ♪
1058
01:00:12,651 --> 01:00:17,156
♪ I love the ground ♪
1059
01:00:17,656 --> 01:00:22,995
♪ Whereon he stands ♪
1060
01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:28,667
[leaves rustle softly]
1061
01:00:56,070 --> 01:00:57,696
[Patrick sighs deeply]
1062
01:00:57,988 --> 01:00:59,823
Digging a grave is just this...
1063
01:01:04,286 --> 01:01:06,580
expression of care
that I've never really had
1064
01:01:06,872 --> 01:01:08,582
the opportunity to put
out into the world,
1065
01:01:08,874 --> 01:01:10,834
or towards someone
I cared about like that.
1066
01:01:12,628 --> 01:01:14,505
At this moment, it's just
so clear to me
1067
01:01:14,797 --> 01:01:19,301
how entangled my personal world
is with Joe's existence.
1068
01:01:20,386 --> 01:01:21,887
I know he's always wanted
to make things seem
1069
01:01:22,179 --> 01:01:23,680
accessible to people,
1070
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,391
see this place
as an example of something
1071
01:01:25,391 --> 01:01:27,976
that they could take
into their own paradigm
1072
01:01:28,268 --> 01:01:30,646
or life goals
or whatever they want,
1073
01:01:30,938 --> 01:01:33,774
but I don't think he knows
how much that means
1074
01:01:34,066 --> 01:01:38,153
to give someone a better sense
of their own belonging.
1075
01:01:38,445 --> 01:01:41,824
Like, that's as much as a person
can offer another person.
1076
01:01:42,574 --> 01:01:43,617
It's sad.
1077
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:46,412
I've cried so much
in the last two months,
1078
01:01:46,412 --> 01:01:48,288
more than I have
in the last two years,
1079
01:01:48,580 --> 01:01:49,540
and, uh...
1080
01:01:50,916 --> 01:01:55,129
I am going to miss him so much.
1081
01:02:02,511 --> 01:02:04,430
So much gratitude
though, like...
1082
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,186
[shaky breath]
...yeah, just, like,
1083
01:02:11,478 --> 01:02:13,564
an un-- unfathomable amount
of gratitude.
1084
01:02:24,867 --> 01:02:26,743
[leaves crunch underfoot]
1085
01:02:32,708 --> 01:02:35,711
Getting to watch someone
receive visitors,
1086
01:02:36,003 --> 01:02:37,337
and spend lovely time,
1087
01:02:37,629 --> 01:02:39,715
and have final conversations,
1088
01:02:39,715 --> 01:02:41,717
um, getting to witness that,
1089
01:02:41,717 --> 01:02:43,260
uh, it's pretty beautiful.
1090
01:02:43,552 --> 01:02:45,387
Getting to actually say goodbye
is pretty beautiful,
1091
01:02:45,387 --> 01:02:46,555
while someone's still here.
1092
01:02:50,184 --> 01:02:52,227
I love the idea
that I keep hearing
1093
01:02:52,227 --> 01:02:55,606
in every sort of version
of what happens after,
1094
01:02:55,898 --> 01:02:57,566
about there being
a bright light.
1095
01:02:57,566 --> 01:02:59,485
For-- like, it's Poltergeist
taught me that.
1096
01:02:59,485 --> 01:03:01,028
Like, "Go to the light,
go to the light."
1097
01:03:02,946 --> 01:03:04,615
But I don't know
what happens after.
1098
01:03:04,615 --> 01:03:06,909
Um, I like to see
how content he is
1099
01:03:07,451 --> 01:03:08,994
about his place,
and that it's coming,
1100
01:03:08,994 --> 01:03:10,078
and that he's ready for it.
1101
01:03:11,205 --> 01:03:13,499
[water trickles]
1102
01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:17,503
[Rhea] Such a beautiful fall.
1103
01:03:18,045 --> 01:03:21,131
To be buried in the fall,
it-- it seems perfect.
1104
01:03:23,759 --> 01:03:25,260
You know, the leaves fall,
1105
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:27,095
and then you can fall
into the ground.
1106
01:03:30,891 --> 01:03:34,436
I mean, we-- we're only here
for a short period of time
1107
01:03:34,436 --> 01:03:36,522
in the scheme of things,
1108
01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:38,649
you know, so we might as well
1109
01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:42,069
make the best of the time
that we have.
1110
01:03:42,778 --> 01:03:46,657
And-- and I think
what's happened here
1111
01:03:46,657 --> 01:03:49,743
at Mountain Gardens
is-- is kind of remarkable.
1112
01:03:50,577 --> 01:03:52,412
And it's just gonna keep
living on.
1113
01:04:01,672 --> 01:04:03,966
I think, like,
the timeless quality of death
1114
01:04:03,966 --> 01:04:05,634
is probably just that.
1115
01:04:05,634 --> 01:04:07,803
It's, like, timelessness,
1116
01:04:09,012 --> 01:04:10,514
you're no longer bound by time,
1117
01:04:10,806 --> 01:04:11,932
and...
1118
01:04:12,641 --> 01:04:15,018
probably experiencing a great
amount of freedom in that.
1119
01:04:16,812 --> 01:04:18,605
That seems kinda beautiful
to me.
1120
01:04:18,605 --> 01:04:20,357
It occurs to me all the time
that we're just, like,
1121
01:04:20,357 --> 01:04:22,526
trapped in time, and, like,
1122
01:04:22,818 --> 01:04:24,444
worried about time
running out.
1123
01:04:25,112 --> 01:04:26,530
All that scarcity,
1124
01:04:26,822 --> 01:04:30,284
all that fear of dying,
and aging, and losing,
1125
01:04:30,993 --> 01:04:34,580
and that seems like the point
where we become un-trapped.
1126
01:04:41,503 --> 01:04:44,298
{\an8}[clock ticking]
1127
01:04:44,298 --> 01:04:46,925
[fire crackles]
1128
01:04:50,178 --> 01:04:53,098
[door creaks]
1129
01:04:53,098 --> 01:04:54,808
[Joe] This one's about death.
1130
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:59,438
I'm currently reading this from
the "Ultimate Ancestor" chapter.
1131
01:05:00,772 --> 01:05:03,984
I take refuge in the, uh,
1132
01:05:05,235 --> 01:05:06,945
Taoist attitude towards death.
1133
01:05:07,988 --> 01:05:09,031
Um...
1134
01:05:10,991 --> 01:05:14,453
Uh, and death is fairly imminent
for me at this point in time.
1135
01:05:16,705 --> 01:05:20,250
And this is my bulwark,
so to speak.
1136
01:05:23,378 --> 01:05:26,256
"Wonderful, how the Maker
of Things is turning me
1137
01:05:26,256 --> 01:05:29,676
into this crumpled thing.
1138
01:05:29,676 --> 01:05:32,596
He hunches my back.
1139
01:05:32,596 --> 01:05:34,973
He hunches me,
and sticks out my back.
1140
01:05:36,892 --> 01:05:40,395
The five pipes of the spine
run up above my head,
1141
01:05:40,395 --> 01:05:43,649
and my chin
hides down in my navel.
1142
01:05:43,649 --> 01:05:46,360
My shoulders are higher
than my crown,
1143
01:05:47,819 --> 01:05:50,822
and a knobbly bone in my neck
points up at the sky.
1144
01:05:51,782 --> 01:05:54,576
The energies of yin and yang
are all awry.
1145
01:05:55,827 --> 01:05:58,538
His heart was at ease,
and he had nothing to do.
1146
01:05:59,748 --> 01:06:03,543
He tottered out to look
at his reflection in the well.
1147
01:06:04,586 --> 01:06:08,173
Ugh, the Master of Things
still goes on turning me
1148
01:06:08,173 --> 01:06:09,883
into this crumpled thing.
1149
01:06:11,009 --> 01:06:12,052
Do you hate it?
1150
01:06:13,345 --> 01:06:14,846
No, why should I hate it?
1151
01:06:14,846 --> 01:06:17,307
Little by little,
he'll borrow my left arm
1152
01:06:18,183 --> 01:06:20,143
to transform it into a cock.
1153
01:06:21,687 --> 01:06:23,480
And it will be while
I am listening
1154
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,440
to the cock crow at dawn.
1155
01:06:26,525 --> 01:06:28,777
Little by little,
he'll borrow my right arm
1156
01:06:29,736 --> 01:06:32,114
to transform it into a crossbow.
1157
01:06:33,615 --> 01:06:35,659
And it will be while
I am waiting
1158
01:06:35,659 --> 01:06:37,369
for a roasted owl for dinner.
1159
01:06:38,662 --> 01:06:41,707
Little by little,
he'll borrow and transform
1160
01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:46,086
my buttocks into wheels,
my demon into a horse.
1161
01:06:46,378 --> 01:06:48,630
And they'll be there
for me to ride.
1162
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:51,341
I'll never have to harness
a team again.
1163
01:06:52,509 --> 01:06:54,886
Besides, to get life
1164
01:06:54,886 --> 01:06:56,430
is to be on time,
1165
01:06:56,430 --> 01:06:59,599
and to lose it
is to be on course."
1166
01:07:00,058 --> 01:07:06,189
[reverent music]
1167
01:07:12,529 --> 01:07:13,697
["My Dearest Dear" sung
by Donna Ray Norton]
1168
01:07:13,989 --> 01:07:14,865
♪ My dearest dear, ♪
1169
01:07:15,157 --> 01:07:18,410
♪ The time draws near ♪
1170
01:07:18,952 --> 01:07:21,955
♪ When you and I must part ♪
1171
01:07:22,914 --> 01:07:27,919
♪ And no one knows
the inner grief ♪
1172
01:07:28,462 --> 01:07:31,923
♪ Of my poor aching heart ♪
1173
01:07:32,758 --> 01:07:37,053
♪ Or what I've suffered
for your sake, ♪
1174
01:07:37,763 --> 01:07:41,266
♪ The one I love so dear ♪
1175
01:07:42,267 --> 01:07:47,105
♪ I wish that I could
go with you ♪
1176
01:07:47,397 --> 01:07:50,567
♪ Or you might tarry here ♪
1177
01:07:51,860 --> 01:07:56,698
♪ I wished your breast
was made of glass ♪
1178
01:07:57,157 --> 01:08:00,410
♪ And in it I'd behold ♪
1179
01:08:00,869 --> 01:08:05,165
♪ My name in secret
I would write ♪
1180
01:08:05,749 --> 01:08:08,877
♪ In letters of bright gold ♪
1181
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,382
♪ My name in secret
I would write ♪
1182
01:08:14,382 --> 01:08:18,303
♪ Believe me when I say ♪
1183
01:08:19,179 --> 01:08:23,558
♪ You are the man
that I'll love best ♪
1184
01:08:24,184 --> 01:08:27,479
♪ Unto my dying day ♪
1185
01:08:28,939 --> 01:08:33,985
♪ And when you're on
some distant shore ♪
1186
01:08:34,694 --> 01:08:38,365
♪ Think on your absent friend ♪
1187
01:08:39,157 --> 01:08:44,037
♪ And when the wind blows
high and clear ♪
1188
01:08:44,579 --> 01:08:48,291
♪ A line to me, pray send ♪
1189
01:08:49,543 --> 01:08:54,506
♪ And when the wind blows
high and clear ♪
1190
01:08:55,173 --> 01:08:58,760
♪ Pray send it, love, to me ♪
1191
01:08:59,719 --> 01:09:04,933
♪ That I might know
by your hand-write ♪
1192
01:09:05,517 --> 01:09:09,771
♪ How times has gone
with thee ♪
1193
01:09:12,524 --> 01:09:14,526
[birds chirp distantly]
1194
01:09:23,493 --> 01:09:25,287
[wind gusts softly]
1195
01:09:50,353 --> 01:09:51,479
{\an8}["I'll Fly Away" sung
by Donna Ray Norton]
1196
01:09:51,771 --> 01:09:54,149
{\an8}♪ Just a few more weary days ♪
1197
01:09:54,149 --> 01:09:59,779
{\an8}♪ And then I'll fly away ♪
1198
01:10:00,572 --> 01:10:05,285
{\an8}♪ To a land where joy
shall never end ♪
1199
01:10:05,577 --> 01:10:09,873
{\an8}♪ I'll fly away ♪
1200
01:10:10,832 --> 01:10:14,085
{\an8}♪ I'll fly away ♪
1201
01:10:14,377 --> 01:10:15,921
{\an8}♪ Oh, glory ♪
1202
01:10:15,921 --> 01:10:19,341
{\an8}♪ I'll fly away ♪
1203
01:10:19,341 --> 01:10:20,967
{\an8}♪ In the morning ♪
1204
01:10:21,259 --> 01:10:23,511
{\an8}♪ When I die ♪
1205
01:10:23,511 --> 01:10:26,097
{\an8}♪ Hallelujah, by and by ♪
1206
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:35,482
{\an8}♪ I'll fly away ♪
1207
01:10:35,482 --> 01:10:37,359
{\an8}♪ Oh, glory ♪
1208
01:10:37,359 --> 01:10:40,820
{\an8}♪ I'll fly away ♪
1209
01:10:40,820 --> 01:10:42,530
{\an8}♪ In the morning ♪
1210
01:10:42,530 --> 01:10:44,991
{\an8}♪ When I die ♪
1211
01:10:44,991 --> 01:10:48,119
{\an8}♪ Hallelujah, by and by ♪
1212
01:10:48,828 --> 01:10:53,792
{\an8}♪ ♪I'll fly away