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[Delicate violin plucking]
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[Sustained, warm violin tone joins]
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[Music fades]
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[Strident, distorted rock music]
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[Music stops]
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[Man]
You wanna go to that place, Chris?
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- [Man 2]
Other in that bag?
- [Scattered instrumental testing]
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[Crowd murmurs excitedly]
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[Man] Now we have to choose one, so...
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[Delicate guitar plucking]
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[Stephen] Let's do that.
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[Distant yelling]
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[Inaudible dialogue]
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[Low singing]
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Alright, alright, alright,
never mind, this one is...
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Go ahead. Play
Slide
. Whatever.
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[Crowd murmurs]
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[Scattered instrumental testing]
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No way.
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No way. That song sucks.
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This'll be sad to hear.
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No way.
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That song's stupid.
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That song is really stupid.
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[Persistent guitar notes]
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[Stephen]
OK, next fire,
what do I do in the intro?
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[Scott]
I dunno, why don't we do it
out front on the porch.
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OK, after that plane passes.
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I'm Steve Malkmus,
singer of the group.
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Here in Portland, Oregon...
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Pretty close to the airport here.
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[Airplane roars in the distance]
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- [Scott] That's quite a plane.
- Yeah...
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Yeah, it was pretty loud.
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Not really fair to the people
that live here.
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It's pretty loud! Not really fair
to the people that live here.
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[Scott] I guess we are pretty close.
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- Yeah, it's good for travel.
- [Scott] Yeah.
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- [Stephen]
I wouldn't mind...
- I wouldn't mind living out here.
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[Stephen]
..living out here.
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[Roar fades]
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[Sharp, electric instruments buzz]
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- [Electric guitar riff]
- [Crowd chatters]
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Ready?
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[Static feedback crackling]
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[Stephen]
OK, thanks, a lot for now.
That's it.
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In the middle of the fuckin'
amazing America...
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- [Drum roll]
- [Cheers and applause]
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Oy!
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Oy! That was fuckin' brilliant!
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[Electric guitar testing]
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[Cheers and applause]
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[Stephen]
What did I tell you?
Here we are, Pavement.
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I'm sure that you are surprised,
but in fact it is true.
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Pull up a chair,
open the windows,
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and turn off the lights.
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[Drum sticks click together]
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[Drummer] Three and a four and...
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[They play -
Our Singer
]
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Her mom's basement in Stockton,
California...
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♪
I've been waiting
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♪
Anticipating
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♪
The sun comes up
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♪
The blisters burn my soul
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♪
I've dreamt of this
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- ♪
But it never comes
♪
- [Music obscures dialogue]
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♪
But it never comes
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♪
The rising!
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- ♪
The rising!
- ♪
The rising!
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♪
Nature's dry
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♪
Faux
♪
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[Stephen]
We're not trying
to stay underground or trying to be big,
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we're just...
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existing.
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[Cheers and applause]
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♪
Sun comes up
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♪
The sky won't sink my soul
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♪
Dreamin'
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♪
Of something now
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♪
Of something now
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♪
Of the rising!
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♪
Nature's dry
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♪
All the groovy ones
♪
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[Fan]
A lotta bands of the '90s sold out.
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They're the best band of the '90s,
hands-down.
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When they announced their tour,
you called me crying
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And like,
"Mom, they just announced it."
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and he was crying, and I'm crying!
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The cosmology has been missing
a Godhead,
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and I really feel
that Pavement fulfills it.
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[Song continues]
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[Stephen]
There's sort of a life
of any idea.
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There's limits that you can't
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transcend...
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naturally.
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I always was hoping
that it was music for the future.
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You know, I mean, I think everyone
who's not that successful in their time
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tries to think that.
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[Song ends]
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[Cheers and applause]
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[Stephen] Well done, Pavement, well done.
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You're really on the ball.
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[In Spanish, English]
Muchas gracias
,
thank you.
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[Energetic, rock musical number]
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[Song concludes, echoes]
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[Scattered instrumental testing;
Indistinct chatter]
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[Testing concludes;
Film whirs]
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Logan Miller, 5'6",
reading for the role of Mark Ibold.
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Hey I'm Fred Hechinger, I'm reading
for the role of Bob Nastanovich.
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For
Range Life.
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Thank you.
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[Man]
Go.
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[Actor shouts in warm-up]
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[Logan]
Yeah, what if we just
do our own thing?
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I mean we're more comfortable
at a CBGB's, Maxwell's, Pyramid Club...
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Should we go? Lemme go back.
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Soon as they notice the little indie bands
make a little money,
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all they want to do is just...
make them make a little more money.
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[Joe]
Right, OK?
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I'm Joe Keery.
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I'm 5'11".
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I live in New York City, and I'll be
auditioning for Stephen Malkmus.
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[Deep bass notes]
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Is this what it's all gonna become?
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Bands like us doing ginormous
corporate commercial things?
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[Woman] It's entirely possible.
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What a bummer.
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And now,
right here on our stage tonight,
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The Beatles!
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[They play -
Space Ghost Theme I
]
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[Music concludes]
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[Multiple boings]
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That was jolly good!
Jolly good.
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[Indistinct chatter]
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[Auditioner sings]
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[Auditioners converse]
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[Auditioner 2] Give me some Guns N' Roses,
'cause I like the...
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[Auditioner 2 sings high-pitched note]
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- Hi, guys!
- [Judges] Hi!
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- On the green?
- [Judges] Yeah!
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Yes, my name is Justise Hayward.
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26 years old.
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- Live in Brooklyn.
- [Judge] Yes!
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What song are you gonna sing?
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-
Gold Soundz
.
- [Judge] OK.
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- Yes, yes, yes.
- [Judge] Try it.
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Let me figure which pitch I'm gonna do.
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[Judge] Yeah take your time,
whenever you're ready.
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[He sings] ♪
Go back to those gold soundz
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♪
And keep my advent to your self
Because it's nothing I don't like
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♪
I keep my address to yourself
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♪
'Cause we need secrets
We need secrets
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♪
Right now
♪
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- [Judge] Nice.
- [Judge 2] Wow!
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[Judge] Thank you.
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[Music plays from speaker -
Box Elder
by Pavement]
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[Man]
I believe
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that these songs
can transform their original form.
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And I believe that
because I love Pavement
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and I love musical theater.
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♪
Honey, I'm a prize and you're a catch
And we're a perfect match
♪
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[Alex]
And I thought,
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"Hey wouldn't it be funny
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"to take all these Pavement songs,
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"slacker songs, alternative,
whatever you want to call it, ironic,
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"put them into the most sincere
art form possible:
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"musical theater.
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-
"See if it works?"
- ♪
...back right now
♪
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[Judges cheer and applaud]
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- [Judge] Thank you so much.
- Yeah.
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[Judge] We've got your info.
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- [Judge 2] Are you a Pavement fan?
- Huge fan. It's the only reason I'm here.
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[Judges laugh]
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I had to see what you guys were doing.
It sounds incredible.
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- [Judge 2] Does it make sense now?
- Yeah!
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- I was like, "Is this a prank?"
- [Judge] No.
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So we go 1, 2, 3...
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[Woman]
I went to see a lot of musicals
in research for this,
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I watched
American Idiot
,
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The Green Day one,
I watched Alanis Morissette.
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I watched
Almost Famous
,
I watched
Fame
.
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[Music from speaker resumes]
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[Woman] I liked this girl, I mean,
she's very, like, musical theater.
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[Angela] Is she the one
that kinda like...?
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- [Vocalizes]
- She was like pumping her heel
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when she was singing.
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[Angela] I don't know, can all these guys
tap? We might have to...
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[Tenaya] There's enough tappers
in that group.
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[Delicate guitar music]
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[Indistinct conversations]
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- The cymbal's nice, too.
- [Fast-paced guitar plucking]
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[They play
Fillmore Jive
]
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♪
See those rockers
With their long curly locks
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♪
Goodnight to the rock and roll dickwads
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♪
We don't need you anymore
♪
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I feel like I'm louder
than everybody sometimes.
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[Steve] I get that
a lot of times too at home.
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[Stephen] We gotta get it going a little
faster. Let's practice your part, Scott.
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[Mark]
The biggest thing
on everyone's mind right now
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is how's this rehearsal gonna go?
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What songs are we gonna play?
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Speaking for myself,
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I'm very excited about
playing all these songs again.
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[Bob]
You know, thrilled to do it.
I love playing Pavement shows.
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We get to practice for about ten days.
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And then five more days.
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[Scattered instrumental testing]
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Pavement is gonna utilize
a sixth member for the first time ever.
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We have Rebecca Cole in our band now.
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[Testing continues]
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[Bob]
The more people you play to,
you have to be a little more...
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You can't screw around as much.
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C'mon in.
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[They play -
Grave Architecture
]
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♪
Let's go!
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♪
Grave architecture
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♪
Walk the marble malls
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♪
The monuments to those who fall
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♪
And it's a pocket less than
Narco shell-bit...
♪
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[Interviewer]
Some the critics and fans
say that you will save rock 'n roll.
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- Can you agree with that?
- Yeah, great.
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- We already have...
- [Stephen] Well, yeah, I think...
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It's a hard burden, but we'll save it.
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[Song continues]
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[Song ends]
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We could do that one.
People would like that one, I think.
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But I gotta remember how it goes.
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[They rehearse
Rooftop Gambler
]
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Actually I met Steve on a soccer team
when I was ten years old.
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He was kinda the brat
of the neighborhood,
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and I was the black sheep
of the neighborhood, so...
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We kind of bonded a little bit because
he used to tease me and I'd beat him up.
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[Reporter]
Every year about this time
Stockton community leaders put together
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three weeks worth of fun and games
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brought to a climax by a giant parade
through the streets of downtown Stockton.
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[Music plays -
Lions (Linden)
]
♪
Every building same height
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♪
Every street a straight line
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♪
Team colors, yellow and blue
♪
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[Stephen]
As it is,
we're from suburban California,
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and I think our music
has that kind of second-hand distance,
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reflected in suburban culture
where everything is slightly artificial.
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There's always gonna be
that Stockton chip on your shoulder.
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We're gritty, and of course
I'm like a bougie dude or whatever,
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but at least I'm from Stockton, you know?
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We're from the Cleveland of California.
This is fine.
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[Reporter]
Biologists in Stockton,
California,
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have released reports
focusing on that trance-like state.
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[Distorted screech]
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[Angela sings] ♪
And nothing ever happens
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♪
Nothing ever happens here
♪
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[Slow-paced music by Pavement]
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[Bob]
Stephen and many of the others
were responsible students
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but I cared more about
going to see bands
257
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and working in a record store,
driving a bus, and washing dishes.
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[Stephen]
Hello. Everyone out there,
you're listening to WTJU,
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91.1 FM.
My name is Stephen...
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We're all the same age,
more of less, and so...
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we were listening to the same things.
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[Stephen, Bob, Scott]
Bands like
Swell Maps, Wire, Pere Ubu, Sonic Youth
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- [Stephen]
and Butthole Surfers...
- [Steve]
I like Can a lot.
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[Bob]
Weird like
Captain Beefhearty-type stuff.
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[Steve]
My Bloody Valentine was a big one.
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[Stephen]
Credence and Devo are
kind of a mix between these two bands.
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- [Mark]
Alex Chilton
.
- [Bob]
A lot of SST.
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[Scott]
I used to always think
he sounded like Buffalo Tom.
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00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,860
[Stephen]
The Smiths and The Cure.
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[Mark]
I think I was a little more
of a punk guy.
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- [Stephen]
Black Flag.
- [Mark]
Mixed with The Doors,
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and Creedence, and Velvets.
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[Distorted screech]
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00:16:36,370 --> 00:16:40,830
[Stephen]
The Verlaines
and The Chills and Cyclops.
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[Bob]
Sneaky Feelings.
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[Scott]
One of the greatest rock bands
of all time, The Clean...
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Real fans, like us,
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bought the 12-inches as they came out.
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[Stephen]
Scott was
the Echo the Bunnymen guy.
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[Mark]
Like The Replacements,
he knew about before me.
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00:16:53,470 --> 00:16:55,260
[Bob]
The Flying Nun stuff
I never would have heard.
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[Stephen]
We both liked Dinosaur Jr,
You're Living All Over Me.
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00:16:59,060 --> 00:17:01,190
Everyone has to go through
that album but
...
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we obviously mixed it pretty heavily
with The Fall.
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00:17:05,690 --> 00:17:07,980
[Stephen]
It took me a while--
To get even in college,
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I liked The Fall.
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00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,820
I was sort of like not the Fall fan
at my school.
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[Stephen]
I mean this is when I was a kid,
I kinda wanted to be cool.
289
00:17:18,450 --> 00:17:20,580
I was a bit of a poser. I still am.
290
00:17:20,620 --> 00:17:22,460
I was buying new wave punk,
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00:17:22,580 --> 00:17:25,250
and I tried to listen to Elvis Costello,
didn't do it for me.
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00:17:25,290 --> 00:17:27,170
I'd listen to The Jam, didn't do it.
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00:17:27,210 --> 00:17:30,470
But then like X,
And The Specials' first album...
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Like the whole record collection
kinda melts
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into what you are.
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The music, you do as a...
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Some of it is you,
but 80% of it is like a fantasy
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of other people you like.
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[They play
Unseen Power
of The Picket Fence
]
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♪
Some bands I like to name check
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♪
And one of them is R.E.M.
♪
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[Distorted noise music]
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[Stephen]
We had a noise band,
it was called Ectoslavia.
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00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:16,100
Bob and David,
a couple of bros just from Richmond.
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00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,140
And we fought a lot.
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00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:26,190
[Music fades]
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[Music plays -
Here
by Pavement]
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♪
I was dressed for success
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♪
Success, it never come
♪
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[Man]
I can't remember
when I first heard them.
311
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,170
Who first played them for me?
How I first got into them?
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But I was pretty young, I guess...
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Maybe my freshman year of college,
it must have been earlier.
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Some time in high school.
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They immediately became
one of my favorite bands.
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I was obsessed with
Slanted and Enchanted.
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[Woman]
My first Pavement album
was on cassette...
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It was
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
and...
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it truly changed my life.
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Um...
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00:19:11,020 --> 00:19:16,530
I remember pouring over the liner notes so
I could learn every single esoteric lyric.
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00:19:17,410 --> 00:19:19,490
Pavement's discography
is sort of like...
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00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:23,870
I can mark where I was in my
pre-adolescence and adolescence and...
324
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,410
You know, like college...
325
00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:27,920
I heard Pavement for the first time
six weeks ago.
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00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:30,710
When I dove into the lyrics
and started learning them,
327
00:19:30,790 --> 00:19:34,510
all the songs weirdly reminded me a lot
of musicals,
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00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:36,470
more than any other genre.
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[They play
Fillmore Jive
] ♪ I'd like to
Invite you
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♪
To taste from my chalice...
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♪
It's a special one
It's made of gold
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♪
Not real gold
♪
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It was a question of how do we capture
this really specific tonality of
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Malkmus' lyrics and this group
of friends making music?
335
00:19:56,990 --> 00:20:00,450
At first it was like,
should we make it crazy and elevated
336
00:20:00,490 --> 00:20:02,160
and have everything be orchestral?
337
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,450
[Man]
But when you start getting in
to these open tunings,
338
00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:07,960
And then like purposefully out-of-tune
guitars in certain places?
339
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,380
You start realizing how complicated
the songs actually are.
340
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,800
And so I do think that, like,
putting it in the sanctity of a theater
341
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,840
in that context is so brilliant.
342
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,310
[Michael Esper]
I love them so much,
I'd just do anything.
343
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,100
I just didn't care even
whether it would work or not.
344
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:30,600
[Music plays on speaker -
You're Killing Me
]
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♪
You're killing me
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- ♪
You're killing me again
♪
- [He whispers the lyrics]
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00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:46,450
♪
It's not my fault
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♪
It's not my fault again
♪
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[Director]
The first song
is
You're Killing Me
.
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And that's the first song
that we ever recorded, too.
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Fitting choice for a first song.
352
00:21:02,130 --> 00:21:05,220
I just remember when we started,
we didn't want to have any bass guitar.
353
00:21:05,810 --> 00:21:09,180
We thought that that was
a radical thing at the time but...
354
00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:11,480
I suppose it's not that radical.
355
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,650
[Song subsides]
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00:21:15,610 --> 00:21:17,820
[Faint distorted guitar music]
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00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:21,400
[Reporter]
The place has always
been called Weber Point,
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although until this year,
there hasn't been much to commemorate it.
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00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,780
Now, civic leaders
have given us this rock.
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[Music plays -
She Believes
]
♪
I told her lies
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♪
Deceitfully
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♪
She believed...
♪
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- [Music subsides]
- [Stephen]
We went to this hippy dude...
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00:21:41,010 --> 00:21:42,840
I'll just call him a "hippy dude."
365
00:21:42,970 --> 00:21:46,390
Like earlier generation.
Yes is his favorite band.
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00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,730
We just happened into his studio,
and he recorded those albums.
367
00:21:51,020 --> 00:21:53,100
So he was just the engineer,
368
00:21:53,230 --> 00:21:56,560
as the cheapest and the only one
that you could go to.
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00:21:56,610 --> 00:21:58,900
I mean initially the thing was
we started the band,
370
00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:01,990
it was just going to be me and Scotty,
and Gary was going to be this...
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00:22:02,820 --> 00:22:07,450
extra guy that's not even credited really.
372
00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,040
But he did contribute a lot.
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[Music continues]
374
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:23,680
It started with the cover art
of the first record.
375
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,100
I just made up
all this mumbo jumbo on there.
376
00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:29,060
Just made it weird.
377
00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:31,310
- [Man]
People are a little confused.
- [Stephen]
Yeah.
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00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,440
[Man]
What's up with S.M.
and Spiral Stairs?
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00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,350
If it sucks, like,
no one will know it was us.
380
00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:38,900
[Music continues]
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00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:40,690
[Man 2]
Pavement members were re-tuning
382
00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:43,070
and they're gonna do another
song for you in just a moment.
383
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:44,900
[Music plays modified version
of
Debris Slide
]
384
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:46,990
♪
Pa-pa-para-pa
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00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,450
♪
Fuck you!
386
00:22:49,030 --> 00:22:51,200
♪
Pa-pa-para-pa...
387
00:22:51,290 --> 00:22:52,620
♪
Fuck you!
♪
388
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,250
[Stephen]
The original thing that we were
doing was deliberately trashy sounding
389
00:22:57,290 --> 00:23:01,710
in some ways 'cause I'd made
this record with these friends of mine,
390
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,180
in Virginia, where we tried to sound nice,
and no one paid attention to it.
391
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,550
So I decided I should make something
that sounded really awful.
392
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,350
There might have also been
at the start, "Well...
393
00:23:13,930 --> 00:23:17,650
"you know, fuck you, we can't play."
That's cooler, you know?
394
00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:18,900
[Music fades]
395
00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:21,900
We're brats,
and, like, you don't have to play
396
00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:24,150
to make good music.
397
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,610
Which you don't.
398
00:23:25,860 --> 00:23:27,820
[Interviewer]
Who came up
with the name Pavement?
399
00:23:27,860 --> 00:23:28,910
[Stephen]
Scott.
400
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:31,080
The other founding father,
Spiral Stairs,
401
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,450
he arranged to press the record.
402
00:23:33,540 --> 00:23:36,790
He's the life blood of the band
in many ways.
403
00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:38,670
He bleeds Pavement.
404
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:40,420
[Delicate,
distorted electric guitar music]
405
00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:42,380
[Music stops]
406
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,300
OK.
407
00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:47,840
Shall we?
408
00:23:48,220 --> 00:23:50,300
A nice review in
K
was like
409
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,890
great to us, or it's, like, the woman
from
K
says, "Your single's so great."
410
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,350
Back in the day,
there was like a fanzine culture.
411
00:23:59,810 --> 00:24:03,820
Fans, making their fanzine,
the same way we made the records.
412
00:24:03,860 --> 00:24:05,940
We got some validation there.
413
00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:08,320
You know,
Gerard Cosloy said he liked it.
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00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:12,740
[Interviewer]
I hear you are one
of the keepers of the band's full history.
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00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:14,740
- Did you...?
- I'm one of the guys.
416
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,000
Did you ever think that
you would be here, in 1989?
417
00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:22,420
I thought I'd maybe be
on this block in 1989,
418
00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:26,630
but certainly not in an installation
documenting the band's history,
419
00:24:26,670 --> 00:24:29,220
and their place
in the whole scope of things.
420
00:24:29,340 --> 00:24:30,840
No, I could not have imagined it.
421
00:24:31,050 --> 00:24:32,220
It looks incredible.
422
00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:34,680
Talk to me about
putting together this exhibit.
423
00:24:34,970 --> 00:24:38,140
You want to be as clever or as witty
as a Pavement song is.
424
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:42,900
There's only a few bands
that have the intense fan base
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00:24:43,230 --> 00:24:46,030
where every detail is worth scrutiny.
426
00:24:46,530 --> 00:24:49,860
And they were like,
"We're gonna tour again."
427
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,120
It seemed like, "Why shouldn't
Pavement have a museum?"
428
00:24:53,910 --> 00:24:55,870
It's gonna be an outstanding autumn.
429
00:24:55,910 --> 00:24:58,580
[Bob]
They wanted to take the band
to the next level,
430
00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:00,830
from being like this "hobby band"
431
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,420
to being a band that actually tried
to assemble some sort of live show.
432
00:25:04,540 --> 00:25:06,210
Stephen's like, "Yeah, you have to come."
433
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:11,130
And one of the reasons I did is 'cause
I had a Chrysler LeBaron station wagon.
434
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,550
Stephen sorta decided that...
435
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:17,430
"You might have to play,
because I'm not really sure
436
00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:19,520
"how Gary is gonna handle this."
437
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,730
[They play -
Perfect Depth
]
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00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:23,020
♪
Slo-mo
439
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:27,280
♪
Got his hand stuck in the kitchen sink
♪
440
00:25:27,780 --> 00:25:30,900
I remember at first
Gary was concerned if this kid
441
00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:32,950
maybe knew how to play drums.
442
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,530
And I had to quickly convince him
that all I had to do was play,
443
00:25:36,580 --> 00:25:40,040
that I was no threat
to his role in the band.
444
00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:43,580
[They play -
Frontwards
]
445
00:25:49,340 --> 00:25:50,970
[Distorted screech]
446
00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:53,220
[They play -
Frontwards
]
447
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,190
♪
And the stories you hear
You know they never add up
448
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:09,070
♪
I hear the natives
Fussin' at the data chart
449
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,740
♪
Be quiet, the weather's
On the night news
♪
450
00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:14,240
Effectively we're Pavement...
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00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,320
in
Focus
. Welcome to the show.
452
00:26:16,370 --> 00:26:21,500
♪
Plastic cones, stolen rims
Are they alloy or chrome
453
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,040
♪
Well, I've got style
Miles and miles
454
00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:29,960
♪
So much style that it's wasted
455
00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:33,880
♪
So much style that it's wasted
456
00:26:34,590 --> 00:26:40,470
♪
So much style that it's wasted
♪
457
00:26:41,220 --> 00:26:43,390
[Music stops]
458
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:53,190
I mean everybody wants to be considered
for these sort of things.
459
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,820
People told me
I could kinda look like him.
460
00:26:57,910 --> 00:26:59,280
Um...
461
00:26:59,370 --> 00:27:02,750
And... yeah, I guess...
462
00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:08,210
It's a good opportunity,
and I wanna try it out.
463
00:27:09,090 --> 00:27:13,130
It's good for my career,
maybe win an award for something.
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00:27:15,010 --> 00:27:18,640
And I don't know if--
I can't play Billy Joel.
465
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,890
[Scott] Starts in the A,
then it goes to the F sharp,
466
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:23,390
- And then you went to the G?
- Yeah, I was there.
467
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:27,270
- OK, it sounds right.
- [Stephen sings] ♪
You will be my...
468
00:27:27,770 --> 00:27:29,610
♪
You will be my something
469
00:27:31,230 --> 00:27:33,860
♪
You will be my bedpan wipers
470
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:37,070
♪
Junior-leaguer, candy-striper
♪
471
00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,410
[Stephen, laughing] ♪
Convalescent
Enema essence
♪
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00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:41,490
[Steve] Enema's in there.
473
00:27:41,530 --> 00:27:43,790
♪
Better to be gray
I live to be gray
♪
474
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:46,500
That's how the hospital was that I was at.
475
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,330
[Bob] Yeah, mine too...
476
00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:50,540
[Delicate, fast-paced guitar strum]
477
00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:53,670
[Scott] Were you a kid in the '90s?
478
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,960
[Passerby] Yeah!
479
00:27:55,050 --> 00:27:57,420
We were a band called Pavement.
480
00:27:57,550 --> 00:27:58,840
[Passerby] OK.
481
00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:00,720
We were big on MTV.
482
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,890
[Passerby] Oh, yeah.
483
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,390
[Man]
They need to try harder.
484
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,810
[Beavis]
Yeah, yeah,
it's like they're not even trying!
485
00:28:06,850 --> 00:28:09,770
- [Slow Pavement song]
- [Beavis and Butt-head laugh]
486
00:28:09,940 --> 00:28:13,610
C'mon, I want you to start
over again, and this time try!
487
00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:16,240
[Beavis and Butt-Head laugh]
488
00:28:16,490 --> 00:28:18,610
C'mon, let's go!
Pick it up! C'mon! Here we go!
489
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:21,870
One, two, three, four,
yeah, c'mon, rock!
490
00:28:21,910 --> 00:28:23,410
[Beavis and Butt-Head TV show stops]
491
00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:26,000
So, you're just on the kick drum
at the start of West's?
492
00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:30,080
There's a shake. Someone's doing...
Is there an egg?
493
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:31,880
[Rebecca] There's an egg
through the whole song.
494
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,050
[Mark]
Our first show was in Brunswick,
New Jersey at the Court Tavern.
495
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,050
[Indistinguishable dialogue]
496
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,010
We lived in Hoboken.
497
00:28:43,050 --> 00:28:45,100
And the drummer
and the guitar player Scott,
498
00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,020
they flew to our house.
499
00:28:48,850 --> 00:28:51,400
I really hope that we rehearsed,
but you know what,
500
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,900
I don't remember that either.
501
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:56,190
Like I hope that the first concert
wasn't the rehearsal.
502
00:28:59,860 --> 00:29:02,740
[Stephen sings
Here
] ♪ I was
Dressed for success
♪
503
00:29:02,780 --> 00:29:04,580
Second verse drop out.
504
00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:09,200
[Resumes singing] ♪
And success
It never comes
505
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:15,170
♪
I'm the only one who laughs
506
00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:20,130
- ♪
At your jokes when they are so bad
♪
- How can you brighten the corners?
507
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,010
It's the one band--
I don't know how to talk about Pavement.
508
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,350
I really cannot understand.
It's like talking about...
509
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:30,600
[Music fades]
510
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Like it's its own life-force,
511
00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:35,730
like an underground reservoir
or something.
512
00:29:36,150 --> 00:29:37,900
Instead of being a band,
513
00:29:37,980 --> 00:29:42,070
it was its own world,
that you could feel that instantly.
514
00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:45,410
That this was symbolic of a bigger thing.
515
00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:47,160
What do you mean they're down?
516
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:50,080
How "down" are we talking?
517
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,210
Son of a bitch!
518
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,250
I'm trying to do the hair like Spiral.
519
00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:58,250
[Logan] In the '90s, did you have any...
520
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,170
facial tics?
521
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,590
There must have been some facial tics.
522
00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:06,930
- Maybe that?
- [Logan] Maybe that's one...
523
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,600
How's that?
524
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,060
I think our profiles are fairly similar.
525
00:30:11,270 --> 00:30:13,640
OK, that kinda looks like something I do.
526
00:30:13,850 --> 00:30:17,770
[Logan]
Being in a musical biopic
is all I've ever dreamed of.
527
00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:21,690
I have auditioned for so many,
528
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:26,570
I mean we're talking Mötley Crüe,
we're talking Beach Boys,
529
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,740
Bob Dylan.
530
00:30:28,990 --> 00:30:30,370
I said...
531
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,250
Pavement's gonna be the one.
And here I am.
532
00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:37,750
[Bob]
I mean,
Malkmus is ridiculously skilled.
533
00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:40,300
I think it sort of benefited
534
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:44,300
a great deal from his association
with David Berman,
535
00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:47,140
which started at college.
536
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:50,720
Everybody else can be good but also...
537
00:30:51,220 --> 00:30:52,600
Everybody has to work at it.
538
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:57,060
[Fred]
Bob sort of like becomes this glue
to the entire band so...
539
00:30:57,310 --> 00:30:59,940
I think a big part of it was...
540
00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:03,530
audiences feeling like...
541
00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:06,410
the people up there were...
542
00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:09,490
aren't so far away, that they're rooting
for them, and they care about them.
543
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Pavement supports lowering the price
of insulin for all.
544
00:31:14,410 --> 00:31:16,500
[Scattered instruments testing]
545
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:19,080
[Inaudible dialogue;
Indistinct chatter]
546
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:22,590
That costs fuckin' eight dollars
in America, it's bullshit!
547
00:31:22,670 --> 00:31:26,340
[Fred]
I went to the horse races with him,
we talked a lot about the band.
548
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,970
We played music and we just co-existed.
549
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:34,640
I was very up front that
I didn't know how to play drums,
550
00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:40,650
and I also didn't have the time
to take any lessons.
551
00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:44,320
So for me it was really like
an exploration into, like,
552
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,450
what is the soul of a drummer?
553
00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:50,240
You know, can I identify
the inner metronome
554
00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:51,990
of what defines a drummer,
555
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040
without ever having to identify the actual
556
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,420
metronome of how someone
knows how to drum?
557
00:31:58,460 --> 00:32:00,580
[TV host]
Here he is,
let's hear it for Stephen Malkmus!
558
00:32:00,630 --> 00:32:02,670
[He shouts] Aah! Music!
559
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,630
He's Mr. Pavement,
wearing his Bernie shirt!
560
00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:06,670
Causing trouble!
561
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,760
They're like the slacker Rolling Stones
of the '90s.
562
00:32:11,850 --> 00:32:14,520
That was the thing that captured me,
563
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:18,190
on
Crooked Rain
, it was the line,
564
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,810
"Hand me the drumstick."
565
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:22,730
I was in.
566
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:24,820
Obviously we're telling a story about
Pavement,
567
00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:26,320
but it's the story about mankind.
568
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,320
A story about human beings,
about the way we treat each other.
569
00:32:30,410 --> 00:32:33,870
The dynamic of the band
was a pretty unique situation
570
00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:36,200
where there was the four and the one
571
00:32:36,750 --> 00:32:38,250
and...
572
00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:41,170
it was isolating for me, 'cause I felt...
573
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:42,420
[Indistinct conversation]
574
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:46,420
You know, I was just being honest
in a lot of these situations and...
575
00:32:47,170 --> 00:32:49,340
Well, I guess I felt
a little misunderstood maybe.
576
00:32:49,470 --> 00:32:51,640
[Band plays -
Shoot the Singer
]
♪
Slow it down
577
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,220
♪
The song is sacred
578
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:55,060
No, no.
579
00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:57,520
- Bam, bam.
- [Band resume]
580
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,770
♪
Slow it down
The song is sacred
♪
581
00:33:04,150 --> 00:33:07,240
[Nat]
There's an emotional current
that I connect to
582
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,070
in Spiral, and in his relationship
with Malkmus...
583
00:33:11,610 --> 00:33:12,740
that...
584
00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:14,200
[He speaks indistinctly]
585
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,790
When I talk about it, um...
586
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:20,580
I can't help but just get
a little bit emotional.
587
00:33:20,830 --> 00:33:22,040
You know?
588
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,170
I feel it, I feel, I'm getting...
I'm getting angry!
589
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:28,920
I can't even tell if it's Spiral
getting angry, or me getting angry,
590
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,170
but I'm getting fucking angry!
591
00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:32,430
I never, I haven't tried it.
592
00:33:32,550 --> 00:33:34,010
I haven't tried it since...
593
00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:36,470
- [Scott plays guitar notes]
- [Stephen] So the first one is B.
594
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:37,970
Yeah.
595
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,600
You're rewarded for dying young
in this business.
596
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:44,730
You're struggling over some notes?
Probably have an ulcer over that.
597
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,070
Stephen's like, "You gotta quit school
598
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:52,240
"because Sonic Youth wants us
to open up for them in Europe."
599
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,950
And I was just like...
600
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,280
"OK, I'll do it. I'll do it" you know?
601
00:33:57,580 --> 00:34:00,870
So I left school.
602
00:34:01,870 --> 00:34:04,120
To go on tour with Sonic Youth, and...
603
00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,250
of course the Pavement thing
happened, forever,
604
00:34:06,290 --> 00:34:08,500
and then in 2008 I think we were...
605
00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:15,800
I was living in Seattle
and I was kinda super low on money.
606
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:18,100
I was like, "Alright, I've gotta..."
607
00:34:18,140 --> 00:34:20,350
I've tried to go back to school
a couple times,
608
00:34:20,390 --> 00:34:21,600
got divorced.
609
00:34:21,770 --> 00:34:25,400
And so I went down and I applied
to be a Seattle bus driver.
610
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,940
- Wow!
- I was like, "Alright,
611
00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:29,570
"that's what I'm gonna do."
612
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,360
A day later, Steve calls:
613
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,160
[Imitates Steve] "Alright,
we're gonna do a reunion tour."
614
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,030
That's how rock 'n' roll works!
615
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,200
My God, I can never be a bus driver!
616
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,710
[They play fast-paced song]
617
00:34:46,670 --> 00:34:49,040
[Woman]
I think the first time
I saw Pavement,
618
00:34:49,090 --> 00:34:52,130
it was after we'd asked Pavement
to play with us.
619
00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:56,380
I was totally prepared
for Stephen to be completely snotty.
620
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,310
♪
So look at me and say
♪
621
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,980
[Kim Gordon]
Sometimes they were
annoyingly boyish.
622
00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:05,810
Actually, Stephen told me
he used to call up and leave
623
00:35:05,850 --> 00:35:10,400
long, really obnoxious music messages
on our answering machine.
624
00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:12,690
[Song continues]
625
00:35:12,740 --> 00:35:15,530
[Stephen]
That was our initial tour
with Gary. That was like...
626
00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:18,240
going to all the towns
for the first time as a full...
627
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:21,080
band, and we were feeling
the pressure of it too.
628
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,580
- I fucked up, what do I do here?
- [Stephen speaks indistinctly]
629
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,540
- And then what?
- Then you go back to the chorus.
630
00:35:27,790 --> 00:35:29,920
- So it's just straight...
- The end of the chorus.
631
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,800
- Just lower key.
- OK, I'm...
632
00:35:32,090 --> 00:35:35,300
- I'm still confused.
- [Stephen] You can do it, Gary, c'mon.
633
00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:36,840
[Indistinct conversation]
634
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:38,470
[Stephen]
We had a bunch of crap.
635
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,510
All our stuff was broken.
636
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:45,060
Sonic Youth had their incredibly
elaborate production,
637
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:47,770
which at the time
completely psyched us out.
638
00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:49,980
[They play fast-paced song]
639
00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:53,860
[Faint clapping]
640
00:35:54,030 --> 00:35:56,200
- [Indistinct chatter]
- [Music plays
Here
on speaker]
641
00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:00,450
[Chatter and song continue]
642
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,490
[Woman speaks indistinctly
in the background]
643
00:36:04,450 --> 00:36:08,210
♪
I was dressed for success
644
00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:13,300
- ♪
Success, it never comes
♪
- [She mouths the lyrics]
645
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,970
♪
I'm the only one who laughs
646
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,810
- ♪
At your jokes when they are so bad
♪
- [He mouths the lyrics]
647
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:29,230
♪
Your jokes are always bad
648
00:36:30,770 --> 00:36:34,610
- ♪
But they're not as bad as this
♪
- [He sings along]
649
00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:38,860
- ♪
Come join us in our prayers...
♪
- [Harmony vocal joins song]
650
00:36:39,110 --> 00:36:41,530
[Stephen]
OK, hello, everyone!
651
00:36:41,570 --> 00:36:44,330
- [Song continues]
-
My name is S.J. Malkmus.
652
00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:48,620
I'm in that little group, Pavement.
You might have heard of us.
653
00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:52,500
If you haven't,
I'm not surprised either so...
654
00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:54,840
I'm here anyway to,
655
00:36:55,210 --> 00:36:58,510
as you can see,
Cologne's premiere,
656
00:36:59,130 --> 00:37:00,220
indie,
657
00:37:01,010 --> 00:37:03,300
vinyl exposé,
658
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,470
parking lot, sewer.
659
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,140
So come on, I'm gonna tell you
a little bit about Pavement.
660
00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:10,640
This is actually
the next thing that came,
661
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:12,400
Slanted and Enchanted
,
662
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,020
this is our ground-breaking LP.
663
00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:19,950
[They sing along to
Summer Babe
]
♪
Summer babe
664
00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:23,990
♪
Summer babe
665
00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:29,040
♪
Summer babe
666
00:37:31,580 --> 00:37:33,880
♪
Summer babe
♪
667
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:37,550
Alright, and now we're in...
668
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,220
New York City!
669
00:37:39,380 --> 00:37:41,380
[Music plays -
Fame Throwa
]
670
00:37:54,770 --> 00:37:57,440
[Stephen]
We weren't playing,
we were just going to Maxwell's,
671
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,110
seeing bands, working in the city.
672
00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:02,990
Worked at the Whitney
as a security guard.
673
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:10,370
[Scott]
Steve West
took a job there as well.
674
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:13,540
They'd talk about the miseries
of being an art security guard,
675
00:38:13,580 --> 00:38:16,000
and it would drive me crazy
because I would have driven bus
676
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,420
for 10 or 11 hours.
677
00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:21,880
[Steve]
That really was useful,
to go to New York,
678
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,840
and be in that environment.
679
00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:29,600
Some of the post-modern philosophies
that were in there.
680
00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:34,100
As long as you have
the kind of bullshit to back it up,
681
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:36,100
you can kinda spin anything.
682
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:38,770
You know, anything's valid,
683
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:44,110
it's down to being a really good singer,
or having in-tune or great technique,
684
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:46,280
That's over with.
685
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,120
It's time for something new.
686
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,160
[Delicate, playful music]
687
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,760
[Stephen]
I would have been
in the art gallery,
688
00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:04,590
writing down shit, trying to be cool.
689
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,350
I was going to write some real songs,
by my mind,
690
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:12,140
like catchy ones.
691
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,690
I don't really listen
to lyrics very closely, so...
692
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:21,690
I was just like,
"Is anyone really listening to this?"
693
00:39:26,860 --> 00:39:28,530
[Music concludes]
694
00:39:28,570 --> 00:39:30,780
- [Stephen] OK, so it's:
- [He sings] ♪
Stories they tell
695
00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:31,990
♪
You know they never add up
696
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,830
♪
I hear the natives fussin'
At the data charts
697
00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:37,250
♪
Be quiet, the weather's
On the night news.
698
00:39:37,330 --> 00:39:39,420
♪
Empty homes, plastic cones
699
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:42,550
♪
Stolen rims
Are they alloy or chrome?
700
00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:47,760
♪
They get in knife fights
And their guts will spill
701
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,930
♪
My cigarette's cupped to the i--
♪
702
00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:51,430
Is it about wind or something?
703
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:54,720
It's about Stockton, I don't know.
704
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,060
Spilling guts.
705
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:59,060
[Music plays -
Summer Babe
]
706
00:39:59,650 --> 00:40:01,770
♪
Ice, baby
707
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:06,570
♪
I saw your girlfriend
And she was eating her fingers
708
00:40:06,610 --> 00:40:08,990
♪
Like just another meal
709
00:40:09,070 --> 00:40:14,410
♪
But she waits there in the levee wash
710
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,460
♪
Mixing cocktails
With a plastic-tipped cigar
711
00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:24,550
♪
Minerals, ice deposit daily
712
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,090
♪
Drop off the first shiny robe
713
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:33,600
♪
I've got a lot friends
I want to talk but
714
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:41,730
♪
Not here, babe, you took 'em
715
00:40:46,030 --> 00:40:49,860
♪
Every time I sit around
I find I'm shot
716
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,910
♪
Every time I sit around
I find I'm shot
717
00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:56,740
♪
Every time I sit around
718
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:58,620
♪
Every time I sit around
719
00:40:58,830 --> 00:41:01,380
♪
Every time, every time, every time
720
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,460
♪
You're my summer babe
♪
721
00:41:05,710 --> 00:41:07,670
[Song stops abruptly]
722
00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:11,470
This is where it all started,
723
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,930
with a lyric pad in his chest pocket.
724
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:20,230
I just imagine him in his uniform
showing up.
725
00:41:21,350 --> 00:41:24,270
You know these kids showing up,
726
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:30,280
in charge of guarding
all this priceless art?
727
00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:34,410
And here they are making
their own priceless art, it's...
728
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:39,460
You couldn't write it.
It's stranger than fiction.
729
00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:42,750
I mean, I thought about
going to Stockton but...
730
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:45,590
this is where it all happened, you know?
731
00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:49,300
Slanted and Enchanted
was birthed in these halls.
732
00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:53,140
I'm doing this project about Stephen...
Do you know the band Pavement?
733
00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:54,180
- No.
- No?
734
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:56,640
This guy Stephen Malkmus
used to work at this place
735
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,640
back when it was the Whitney.
736
00:41:59,020 --> 00:42:02,270
I recommend you speak with my colleague
over there with the curly hair.
737
00:42:02,350 --> 00:42:04,690
- [Joe Keery] OK, cool.
- [Man] These guys need to chat.
738
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:07,400
-
This used to be the Whitney, right?
- [Woman]
It did.
739
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,150
[Joe]
Do you know the band Pavement?
Have you heard of that band?
740
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:11,200
[Woman]
Yeah.
741
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,990
[Joe] I know all those guys
used to work here, in this building.
742
00:42:14,490 --> 00:42:17,330
They were security guards here,
guarding all the art.
743
00:42:17,370 --> 00:42:18,370
[Woman] Wow.
744
00:42:19,330 --> 00:42:22,160
I thought there'd be a Pavement area
in the gift shop
745
00:42:22,210 --> 00:42:25,080
maybe a couple of records, T-shirts or
something, but there's nothing in there.
746
00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:28,550
It's funny, ever since
we started working on this project,
747
00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:30,800
and I've been working on the accent
and stuff.
748
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,880
I feel like my appetite
has actually changed.
749
00:42:33,090 --> 00:42:34,300
Hmm.
750
00:42:35,090 --> 00:42:36,840
Coming back here in about a week
751
00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:38,930
without you guys, and maybe...
752
00:42:38,970 --> 00:42:40,930
they might let me work
a couple of night shifts.
753
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:43,730
I got a lot of research to do,
I got a lot of work to do.
754
00:42:43,770 --> 00:42:44,980
It's going to be a long shoot.
755
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:46,650
[Music plays -
Greenlander
]
756
00:42:46,690 --> 00:42:50,900
♪
On an icy island in north
757
00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:56,410
♪
In the woods beside the church
758
00:42:57,490 --> 00:43:01,790
♪
We can bury crimson lockets
759
00:43:02,330 --> 00:43:04,330
♪
Filled with dirt
760
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,920
♪
And when the April thaw
761
00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:14,050
♪
Brings us out again
762
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:17,890
♪
We can bless the arrows...
♪
763
00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:19,680
[Song fades]
764
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,560
Should have wore a hat today.
765
00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:24,100
[Indistinct voices;
Faint cheers and applause]
766
00:43:24,730 --> 00:43:27,900
[Stephen on video]
It's gonna have
an effect on your self-esteem I suppose.
767
00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:31,190
It's going to have a little effect
on your self-esteem I suppose.
768
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,030
- [Soft guitar chords]
- [Stephen sings] ♪
La, la, la, la, la.
769
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,490
♪
La, la!
♪
770
00:43:35,610 --> 00:43:37,450
[Mark Ibold]
The songs have a playfulness
771
00:43:37,530 --> 00:43:39,740
which I think is definitely
a part of the...
772
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:41,830
what I would call "the Pavement spirit."
773
00:43:41,870 --> 00:43:43,500
It's got these weird...
774
00:43:44,290 --> 00:43:47,080
different tunings, yeah,
almost like blues tunings.
775
00:43:47,830 --> 00:43:51,800
[Interviewer]
How does it go? The process
of songwriting within Pavement?
776
00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:55,840
- Who comes up with the initial idea?
- Professor Malkmus.
777
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,010
[Instruments testing]
778
00:43:58,050 --> 00:44:00,140
- Hey, what was that?
- [Man] Hey!
779
00:44:01,470 --> 00:44:03,930
- [Stephen] I heard something catchy.
- I dunno.
780
00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:05,680
Your melody's pretty good.
781
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:10,270
- Mine's pure Bob.
- The chorus just...
782
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:13,780
You sing it though
because my singing is...
783
00:44:13,820 --> 00:44:16,030
It's not appropriate and it's your song.
784
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,610
It's hard, you don't want to sing
another person's song.
785
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,870
But I like when you sing my... songs.
786
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,910
Yeah, 'cause you don't have to sing.
787
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,000
[They play -
Trigger Cut/Wounded-Kite at :17
]
788
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,790
♪
...that still knows the tricks
789
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,760
♪
Tricks are everything to me
♪
790
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,930
[Stephen]
I feel like I can step outside
to a certain amount and think,
791
00:44:39,090 --> 00:44:42,010
"Well, that's the singer of the band,"
and I just, like,
792
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:44,760
I see this other person down there,
it's like...
793
00:44:45,260 --> 00:44:49,940
Of course it's me, but I manage to say,
"Oh, that's the singer," you know.
794
00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:53,400
Whenever I sing, I think,
"Well, what's a singer supposed to do?"
795
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,070
Not what I'm supposed to do.
796
00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:56,780
[Music plays -
She Believes
]
797
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:01,530
♪
I told her oh, lip suction fragment
♪
798
00:45:03,530 --> 00:45:06,040
With some lyrics, they just kind of...
799
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,960
They come out of just your imagined...
What you're imagining is...
800
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:14,840
What a singer, a cool singer would sing,
you know?
801
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,920
♪
You're so beautiful to look at
When you cry
802
00:45:18,010 --> 00:45:20,470
♪
Freeze, don't move
803
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:28,980
♪
You've been chosen as an
Extra in the movie adaptation
804
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:31,900
♪
Of the sequel to your life
♪
805
00:45:32,270 --> 00:45:34,480
[Stephen]
We sent them the tape,
we sent it all around,
806
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,360
the
Slanted and Enchanted
tape,
thinking who's gonna like it, you know,
807
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,360
just pretty exciting
to see who wanted to do it.
808
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,820
We didn't send it to any major labels
or anything.
809
00:45:43,530 --> 00:45:45,660
We just sort of randomly
put 'em out, you know?
810
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:48,240
[Joe repeats] You just sort of randomly
put it out, you know?
811
00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:50,160
One more time for that one.
812
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,830
[Casette player clicks;
Lo-fi Pavement music plays]
813
00:45:54,250 --> 00:45:56,960
[Stephen and Joe] We just
sort of randomly put it out, you know?
814
00:45:57,090 --> 00:45:58,340
One more time?
815
00:45:59,510 --> 00:46:01,050
-
Stop right now.
- [Music concludes]
816
00:46:01,090 --> 00:46:03,890
[Stephen on tape]
So, yeah,
actually it took like two years for it...
817
00:46:03,930 --> 00:46:07,100
So, actually, yeah, it took like two years
for it to come out, so...
818
00:46:08,770 --> 00:46:10,770
Sort of randomly put it out, you know?
819
00:46:10,810 --> 00:46:12,900
[Stephen on video] All the songs
on those tapes,
820
00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:16,650
they were just... we'll tape the tape,
like, how you felt that day.
821
00:46:16,690 --> 00:46:19,900
Even though that album
Slanted and Enchanted
became
822
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,740
synonymous with this lo-fi thing
that didn't really exist yet.
823
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,500
In our minds it was not lo-fi,
that was like a big pop record.
824
00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:32,080
[They play -
In the Mouth a Desert
]
825
00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:37,290
♪
Can you treat it like an oil well
826
00:46:38,460 --> 00:46:41,670
♪
When it's underground, outta sight
♪
827
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,430
I came back and played it
for Bob Nastanovich and David.
828
00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:47,930
They were like, "You're set, dude."
829
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:51,720
"Get ready, people are gonna like you
for a while."
830
00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:55,350
I was still working
at the art museum and...
831
00:46:55,730 --> 00:46:58,730
These people are coming
to do meetings with me, like...
832
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,110
when your dreams come true
like that, it's quite...
833
00:47:03,860 --> 00:47:05,200
Quite scary.
834
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:09,240
♪
And you never get it back
835
00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:12,080
- ♪
It's what I want
- ♪
What I want
836
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,290
- ♪
It's what I want
- ♪
What I want
837
00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:22,210
♪
It's what I want, it's what I want
It's what I want
838
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,800
♪
It's what I want now
♪
839
00:47:27,550 --> 00:47:30,930
[She sings] ♪
Tell me, tell me, tell me
840
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:35,440
♪
I've been crowned the king of it
841
00:47:35,690 --> 00:47:39,480
♪
And it is all we have so wait
842
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,400
♪
To hear my words
And they're diamond sharp
843
00:47:44,570 --> 00:47:49,030
♪
I could open it up
It's up and down
844
00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:08,090
[Cheers and applause]
845
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:11,260
[Delicate guitar plucking]
846
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,720
- [Woman] OK, so, softer.
- [Joe] Softer.
847
00:48:13,890 --> 00:48:15,100
- Shorter.
- Shorter.
848
00:48:15,220 --> 00:48:16,600
- Lower.
- Lower.
849
00:48:16,890 --> 00:48:18,940
He's not really rounding
his lips very much.
850
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:22,900
And he does the classic California thing
of that claw sound.
851
00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:27,610
It's super flat but people don't normally
use their mouths all that much.
852
00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:28,700
[Joe] Yeah.
853
00:48:28,740 --> 00:48:33,410
- Some, but they don't go crazy with it.
- [Joe] Definitely not Stephen.
854
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:36,120
- No, no...
- [Joe] I'd say the opposite.
855
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,120
- [Woman] Yeah, he keeps it pretty tight.
- Yeah.
856
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,290
And he has a lot of "vocal fry" going on,
857
00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:45,630
which is when you're pressing down
on your soft palate,
858
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:48,180
- That's this part.
- Yeah, it just seems like he's kinda...
859
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:50,430
Living in this sort of world.
860
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:53,010
- [Woman] Yeah.
- I think he says "tunes."
861
00:48:53,350 --> 00:48:55,390
- [Woman] Oh, I didn't hear that.
- Tunes.
862
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,140
Yeah, he says, "I have some fun tunes."
863
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:03,480
He seems like he's a man of contradictions
because he has this...
864
00:49:04,020 --> 00:49:07,150
really relaxed thing going on,
865
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,240
but it's super tight in the back, yeah.
866
00:49:10,450 --> 00:49:15,450
I feel like it would be possible
to get a picture of Stephen's tongue.
867
00:49:15,620 --> 00:49:16,950
[Woman] I would love that.
868
00:49:17,330 --> 00:49:19,620
It would be super helpful to know
869
00:49:20,330 --> 00:49:22,000
just what it looks like.
870
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:24,000
[Woman] Yeah, it would.
871
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:26,420
- [Man] Is it announced?
- Yes.
872
00:49:26,460 --> 00:49:28,630
- [Woman] It's announced?
- [All] It's announced?
873
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,260
Wow!
874
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,810
- [Man] Where is it?
- It's on the Pavement's Instagram.
875
00:49:36,930 --> 00:49:38,720
[Indistinct joyful chatter]
876
00:49:38,810 --> 00:49:40,980
- [Woman] Shut up.
- [Man] I mean, this is crazy.
877
00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:43,060
[Upbeat Pavement music]
878
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:47,940
[Scott]
When you take that tape...
879
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,240
You say a prayer...
880
00:49:51,490 --> 00:49:53,070
[Music changes to song on demo]
881
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,410
And you hope
the big boys upstairs like it.
882
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:03,830
Next thing you know,
you're signing a record company contract,
883
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,920
and recording an album for real.
884
00:50:12,010 --> 00:50:13,970
[Music fades]
885
00:50:14,010 --> 00:50:15,850
The character's kinda making sense
886
00:50:15,890 --> 00:50:18,470
now that you're getting
to study these archives.
887
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:19,850
Yeah.
888
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,440
You know, obviously I have so much
of his personal wardrobe
889
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,190
that he's been able to give me.
890
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,440
All these clothes that he's been keeping
for 30 years because he thought
891
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,860
maybe one day this could happen,
they would make a movie and...
892
00:50:34,610 --> 00:50:35,740
It's happening right now.
893
00:50:35,780 --> 00:50:37,870
[Director] When you meet
the other guys in the band,
894
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:40,490
introduce you as "Joe" to them.
895
00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:42,000
- No.
- [Director] OK.
896
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,960
No, no, no, it would be helpful
if you did introduce me as Stephen,
897
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,960
because that's how I'll approach...
898
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,130
[Faint piano music]
899
00:50:48,170 --> 00:50:50,380
the conversation with them
just fully in character.
900
00:50:51,010 --> 00:50:52,170
[Man]
Again.
901
00:50:52,220 --> 00:50:55,300
[Actors sing] ♪
No more absolutes
902
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:58,600
♪
No more absolutes
♪
903
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,020
[Man] Great, one more time.
904
00:51:00,310 --> 00:51:03,020
♪
No more absolutes
905
00:51:04,270 --> 00:51:06,310
♪
No more absolutes
♪
906
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,230
[Man] Stick your penitentiary.
907
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,070
♪
Stick your penitentiary
908
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,240
♪
Clothes inside the vent
909
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,870
- ♪
And run along, Leigh
♪
- [He mouths lyrics]
910
00:51:18,990 --> 00:51:22,450
Is that rhythm right?
"Stick your penitentiary, clothes..."
911
00:51:22,750 --> 00:51:27,330
[They sing] ♪
Stick your penitentiary
Clothes inside the vent
♪
912
00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:30,300
[Man]
One more time.
Three, four...
913
00:51:30,380 --> 00:51:33,170
[Singing continues] ♪
No more absolutes
914
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:36,970
♪
No more absolutes
915
00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:42,350
♪
Stick your penitentiary
916
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:45,100
♪
Clothes inside the vent
917
00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:48,230
♪
Run along, Leigh
♪
918
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,690
One more time we have to do?
919
00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:53,650
[Kim Gordon]
Gary was great, every gig,
920
00:51:53,690 --> 00:51:57,950
he had this performance art thing
going through the whole tour,
921
00:51:57,990 --> 00:52:01,160
where he would find something
to give the audience,
922
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,160
to pass out to the audience
as they were coming in.
923
00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:06,750
Like one place in Germany,
it was leaves.
924
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:09,580
Compost is really important.
925
00:52:09,630 --> 00:52:11,500
[Kim Gordon]
It was kinda borderline,
926
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:14,130
some nights, it was like,
"What are you gonna do tonight, Gary?"
927
00:52:14,210 --> 00:52:15,380
That kind of thing.
928
00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:18,470
You could see him getting frustrated.
929
00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:21,300
[Scattered instrument testing]
930
00:52:23,810 --> 00:52:26,180
[Gary] I ain't playing
if I ain't drinking!
931
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:29,650
[Scott]
Yeah,
Gary would be drumming along,
932
00:52:29,690 --> 00:52:32,770
and he'd be playing the song,
and all of sudden, he'd like...
933
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:36,030
just hear Bob drumming,
And you'd see Gary like...
934
00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:37,320
You know...
935
00:52:37,780 --> 00:52:41,620
On his head, or out in the crowd,
or something, you know?
936
00:52:46,450 --> 00:52:49,250
Gary thought that we were...
937
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:52,960
You know, a giant band just because
we were playing with Nirvana.
938
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,380
We were playing
with Sonic Youth and stuff.
939
00:52:56,420 --> 00:52:57,920
Look at all these people here!
940
00:52:58,010 --> 00:53:01,760
[Scott]
He saw it as he'd finally made it.
941
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,350
Um, but... There's a bar over there.
942
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:07,310
[Scott] But he was in really bad shape
at that time.
943
00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:10,270
[Noise music by Pavement]
944
00:53:15,940 --> 00:53:18,070
[Stephen]
But he made all these
irrational demands
945
00:53:18,110 --> 00:53:20,070
in this Copenhagen hotel room.
946
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,870
He flat out at the end of it,
he was like, "I quit!"
947
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:25,700
"I absolutely quit!"
948
00:53:25,870 --> 00:53:28,910
♪
When I was a drum cadet
949
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:33,580
♪
Sold her
950
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,510
♪
The skins off my second set
951
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,300
♪
Yes!
952
00:53:41,340 --> 00:53:43,430
♪
See myself come running back
953
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,800
♪
See myself come running back
954
00:53:46,060 --> 00:53:48,220
♪
Running back
Running back
955
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:50,810
♪
Running, running, running back
956
00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:55,730
♪
See myself come running back
See myself come running back...
♪
957
00:53:56,190 --> 00:53:58,400
[Music fades]
958
00:54:01,570 --> 00:54:04,780
Stephen who'd become friends
with Steve West in Brooklyn,
959
00:54:04,820 --> 00:54:07,120
they were jamming all the time.
960
00:54:07,490 --> 00:54:10,370
Stephen was making up all
the
Crooked Rain
songs,
961
00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:13,170
and fleshing them out with Steve West.
962
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:15,710
[Indistinct singing]
963
00:54:19,340 --> 00:54:21,420
[Scattered instrument testing]
964
00:54:21,630 --> 00:54:23,590
Let's go back in, guys!
965
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,010
[Testing continues]
966
00:54:26,350 --> 00:54:28,310
[Scott] We dedicate
that one to Gary.
967
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,020
[Bob]
When he decided to get the band
back together again,
968
00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:32,810
he decided to hire on Steve West.
969
00:54:32,850 --> 00:54:36,020
And I felt extremely immoral,
playing those shows,
970
00:54:36,060 --> 00:54:39,480
'cause I'm sure that I promised Gary
that "I will never do a Pavement show
971
00:54:39,530 --> 00:54:41,440
"without you in the band."
972
00:54:41,530 --> 00:54:46,070
The fact that his place was being taken
by a friend of mine from high school,
973
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,370
since I was 13 years old,
also is really heavy duty.
974
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:57,460
[Steve]
I remember the day that Gary told
me how he wanted me to play this song.
975
00:54:57,710 --> 00:55:00,260
After that, that's all I've ever done.
976
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:01,720
[They laugh]
977
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,510
He said, "Don't fuck with my rules, man!"
978
00:55:04,930 --> 00:55:07,510
[Steve]
I don't even know what
"going platinum" means.
979
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,850
But I'm ready to take it on
if it happens.
980
00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:15,400
It's like a million records,
I think that's pretty far off.
981
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,480
I don't know if we're gonna ever do that.
982
00:55:17,650 --> 00:55:20,020
- A million records?
- That's a lot of records.
983
00:55:20,780 --> 00:55:23,400
[They play -
Cut Your Hair
]
984
00:55:27,820 --> 00:55:31,740
♪
Music scene is crazy
Bands start up
985
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,330
♪
Each and every day
I saw another one
986
00:55:36,620 --> 00:55:40,840
♪
Just the other day
A special new band
987
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:44,670
[Song plays in rehearsal] ♪
Advertising
looks and chops a must
988
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:46,550
♪
No big hair!
♪
989
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:50,930
I think the quandary that I have is
how you resist becoming pretentious,
990
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:55,270
when it seems like everybody,
everybody, all the press is...
991
00:55:55,890 --> 00:55:59,100
prostrating themselves,
paying homage to Pavement,
992
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,900
putting away
their typically cynical selves and just...
993
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,900
pouring on the praise,
pouring on the praise.
994
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,400
Maybe you have become pretentious?
995
00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:09,490
[Stephen scoffs]
996
00:56:09,620 --> 00:56:13,200
[Stephen]
That is a sad thing,
to just be a critic's band.
997
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,160
Always be talking about that?
998
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,540
I guess we feel a little bit
annoyed by that,
999
00:56:18,580 --> 00:56:19,710
not only...
1000
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,880
We want to glide without the critics,
1001
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,960
straight into the tube.
1002
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:30,840
- ♪
Career, career, career, career
♪
- [He murmurs the song]
1003
00:56:30,930 --> 00:56:32,930
[Actors join] ♪
No big hair!
1004
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:37,020
♪
Songs mean a lot
When songs are bought
1005
00:56:37,350 --> 00:56:39,730
- ♪
And so are you
♪
- [Man] Great.
1006
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,940
[Stephen]
We're Pavement
and that was the Pavement
1007
00:56:43,980 --> 00:56:45,610
with
Cut Your Hair
.
1008
00:56:45,650 --> 00:56:47,280
[
Cut Your Hair
resumes]
1009
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,240
♪
Face right down to the practice room
1010
00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:53,450
♪
Attention and fame
1011
00:56:53,660 --> 00:56:55,580
- ♪
Career
♪
- [Actors] ♪
Career
1012
00:56:55,620 --> 00:56:57,460
- ♪
Career
♪
- [Actors] ♪
Career
1013
00:56:57,790 --> 00:56:59,790
- ♪
Career
♪
- [Actors] ♪
Career
1014
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:02,880
[All] ♪
Career...
♪
1015
00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:05,420
[They play -
Unfair
]
1016
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,350
♪
Neighbor
You call me neighbor
1017
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,230
♪
You do me favors
1018
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,400
♪
I'm not your neighbor
1019
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,700
♪
Don't do me favors
I'm not your neighbor
1020
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:30,700
♪
Don't do me favors
1021
00:57:30,740 --> 00:57:32,820
♪
I'm not your neighbor
1022
00:57:46,170 --> 00:57:48,510
♪
I'm not your neighbor
♪
1023
00:57:49,260 --> 00:57:51,630
[Stephen]
That was always
the great thing about Pavement,
1024
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,930
from
Demolition Plot
and the first 7-inch on,
1025
00:57:55,970 --> 00:57:58,810
there was always a gradual progression...
1026
00:57:59,060 --> 00:58:01,100
Alright, do you want to try
Stop Breathin
?
1027
00:58:01,140 --> 00:58:04,730
[Bob] Crooked Rain
was just like,
OK, the Nirvana thing had happened,
1028
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:06,980
because that was the time when
1029
00:58:07,150 --> 00:58:11,400
"most eligible to be signed band"
stuff was floating around.
1030
00:58:11,650 --> 00:58:13,110
But I knew it was getting bigger.
1031
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,410
One, two, three.
1032
00:58:14,450 --> 00:58:15,820
♪
Got struck...
♪
1033
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:20,580
One, two, three. One, two, three.
One, two, three. One, two, three.
1034
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:24,920
♪
Got struck by the first volley
1035
00:58:25,340 --> 00:58:29,000
♪
Of the war in the corps
1036
00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:33,470
♪
Never held my service...
♪
1037
00:58:33,590 --> 00:58:36,140
[Stephen]
You have different things
you can do with each record.
1038
00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:39,770
Maybe this record
is a little more straight ahead,
1039
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,810
lyrically and stuff like that.
1040
00:58:41,980 --> 00:58:44,850
And the next time,
we can do something different.
1041
00:58:45,020 --> 00:58:50,400
We think we have different cards
to play every time, we played...
1042
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,490
This time we played gin rummy,
and next time we'll play strip poker.
1043
00:58:55,740 --> 00:59:01,330
I'm kinda like taking music
that made me feel sick a little bit,
1044
00:59:01,370 --> 00:59:02,790
but trying to make it good.
1045
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,130
Like classic rock of
Silence Kid
or The Eagles, with
Range Life
1046
00:59:07,170 --> 00:59:11,000
so it was like bands I hated sometimes,
I still do that now.
1047
00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:13,590
Yeah, I don't know why
I'm compelled to do that.
1048
00:59:13,630 --> 00:59:16,390
♪
...Breathin' for me now
1049
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:20,260
♪
Write it on a postcard
1050
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,720
♪
Dad, they broke me...
♪
1051
00:59:34,070 --> 00:59:36,240
[Music continues]
1052
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,330
Come work on your backing vocals
on
Cut Your Hair
.
1053
00:59:46,370 --> 00:59:48,500
They often sound like shit.
Get in here.
1054
00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:51,550
- [Music continues]
- [Indistinct singing]
1055
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,100
It would be cool for
Range Life
if we could have, like...
1056
00:59:59,140 --> 01:00:01,390
There could be one song where we...
1057
01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:05,770
It actually has the lyrics
like karaoke, you know?
1058
01:00:13,780 --> 01:00:16,820
After I made
Crooked Rain
,
everyone heard it and they're like,
1059
01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:18,950
"This is gonna be so great."
1060
01:00:19,450 --> 01:00:20,990
"You're set."
1061
01:00:21,830 --> 01:00:25,330
- This is a proper fucking album like...
- [Interviewers laugh]
1062
01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:27,790
- Get ready!
- [Interviewer] It is, yeah.
1063
01:00:28,210 --> 01:00:30,380
Strap it on 'cause it's going off!
1064
01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:33,800
And then... So then I was like,
"Alright, that's all I have to do.
1065
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,630
"I can just act like I don't care.
1066
01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:37,920
"It's gonna be so big."
1067
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:41,640
You know, "It's what
Kurt Cobain would do too..."
1068
01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:44,350
But then it didn't happen.
1069
01:00:44,430 --> 01:00:46,560
[Music continues]
1070
01:01:05,450 --> 01:01:09,710
He's filming but we're not making
an album, we're just rehearsing, so...
1071
01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:15,460
It's not quite as a... much drama as
that Beatles movie by Peter Jackson
1072
01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:19,340
that got so much traction on social media.
1073
01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:21,930
We're too soon together.
We're not at each other.
1074
01:01:22,050 --> 01:01:24,390
[Music plays -
Kennel District
]
1075
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,060
♪
Hold on tight she wears the suit
1076
01:01:29,810 --> 01:01:32,810
♪
It's got more stars than the sky
1077
01:01:34,110 --> 01:01:37,820
♪
It's still forbidden to excuse
1078
01:01:38,190 --> 01:01:40,820
♪
That little look in your eye
1079
01:01:42,910 --> 01:01:47,240
♪
I was busted in my gut that time
1080
01:01:47,540 --> 01:01:51,160
♪
That time I said, "I know it's true"
1081
01:01:51,460 --> 01:01:55,460
♪
Why didn't I ask?
Why didn't I ask?
1082
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:57,630
♪
Why didn't I...?
♪
1083
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,970
So sorry, everyone!
1084
01:02:02,010 --> 01:02:03,720
[Cheers and applause]
1085
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:07,100
So sorry.
1086
01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:10,640
We didn't know...
1087
01:02:11,230 --> 01:02:12,940
[Man in the audience] You suck!
1088
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:15,770
Try to get through this one!
1089
01:02:17,980 --> 01:02:21,450
[Stephen] I think it's gonna turn out
to be a good idea to be here.
1090
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,450
It's kinda weird, but you know...
1091
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:28,870
So is good music.
1092
01:02:29,330 --> 01:02:33,040
Scott, do you want me
to take my bass back, or not?
1093
01:02:33,830 --> 01:02:35,080
Um...
1094
01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:38,300
- Are OK, are you getting it?
- I'm OK, I think there's...
1095
01:02:38,590 --> 01:02:40,590
I'll practice some songs on my own.
1096
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,380
[Rebecca Cole]
What time
do you usually come in?
1097
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:47,850
[Scott] I always stay a little later
and go over some stuff that I'm kinda...
1098
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:49,220
stuck on.
1099
01:02:49,770 --> 01:02:51,770
OK, guys, I'll see you later.
1100
01:02:53,060 --> 01:02:57,320
[Man]
For kids who felt like everything
was stupid and everything sucked,
1101
01:02:57,730 --> 01:02:59,730
-
They were your band.
- [Band member] Range Life.
1102
01:02:59,940 --> 01:03:02,780
- [Music plays -
Range Life
]
- ♪
...one thing I'll never forget
1103
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:05,280
♪
Hey, you gotta pay your dues
1104
01:03:05,780 --> 01:03:08,330
♪
Before you pay the rent
♪
1105
01:03:08,530 --> 01:03:13,960
In the song
Range Life
,
the famous dig at Smashing Pumpkins.
1106
01:03:14,210 --> 01:03:19,300
It just felt a little, not "dangerous",
it's the wrong word but
1107
01:03:19,340 --> 01:03:21,420
there's a lot of humor in Malkmus.
1108
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,510
♪
Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins
1109
01:03:26,010 --> 01:03:30,010
♪
Nature kids
They don't have no function
1110
01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:33,480
♪
I don't understand what they mean
1111
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,190
♪
And I could really give a fuck
1112
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,480
♪
Stone Temple Pilots
They're elegant bachelors
♪
1113
01:03:42,530 --> 01:03:43,780
[Music fades]
1114
01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:46,200
[Interviewer]
Did you know
that you were gonna get...
1115
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,080
reactions to talking
about The Smashing Pumpkins
1116
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,620
and Stone Temple Pilots?
1117
01:03:50,740 --> 01:03:54,750
We thought it would be free publicity
for the Pilots
1118
01:03:54,790 --> 01:03:59,880
and The Pumpkins actually,
that's why we did it, not for ourselves.
1119
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,250
Um...
1120
01:04:01,300 --> 01:04:04,300
In the third quarter,
their record sales were lagging,
1121
01:04:04,420 --> 01:04:06,220
and we were paid off.
1122
01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:07,590
And I hope they paid you well.
1123
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,300
Seeing them on
The Tonight Show
1124
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:12,060
just goofing on the whole thing.
1125
01:04:12,180 --> 01:04:14,600
[He vocalizes in a high-pitched note]
1126
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:25,110
The idea of selling out
was first established as a concept...
1127
01:04:25,610 --> 01:04:30,910
I remember in the '80s when you saw
Revolution
used in the Nike commercial.
1128
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:36,120
That's not what you're supposed to do
with your music or with your art.
1129
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,330
Doing something you're not comfortable
doing for the sake of the market,
1130
01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:42,380
or for the sake of money.
1131
01:04:42,750 --> 01:04:44,800
I think it's radically changed...
1132
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,460
No one really cares anymore.
1133
01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:50,890
If I'm able to con somebody
into giving us money to do a commercial,
1134
01:04:52,180 --> 01:04:53,350
then I feel like we've won.
1135
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:54,430
Nobody really cares.
1136
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:57,810
No one's looking at it like they looked
at the Beatles and the Nike commercial.
1137
01:04:57,940 --> 01:05:00,270
[Music plays -
Gold Soundz
]
1138
01:05:09,780 --> 01:05:14,660
♪
I keep my address to myself
Because it's secret
1139
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,250
♪
'Cause it's secret, cret, cret, cret
1140
01:05:17,410 --> 01:05:19,250
♪
Cret, cret, cret, cret, cret
1141
01:05:19,290 --> 01:05:21,880
♪
Cret, cret, cret, cret, cret
1142
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,670
♪
Back right now
♪
1143
01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:26,260
[Interviewer]
I was sitting watching that
with my 6-year-old nephew.
1144
01:05:26,550 --> 01:05:30,090
We were both really excited to see
lots of Santa Claus.
1145
01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:33,760
But it left us extremely confused,
What was it about?
1146
01:05:34,220 --> 01:05:35,470
[Mark]
Um...
1147
01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:37,430
Yeah, I guess it was confusing.
1148
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:42,940
So you've got a reputation
for being hard to pin down.
1149
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:48,030
Anything I've read about you guys...
You sorta of have this fear of success.
1150
01:05:48,490 --> 01:05:49,780
Not a fear,
1151
01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:52,620
just an unwillingness to be successful.
1152
01:05:52,780 --> 01:05:56,910
No, we've done everything we can do
actually to be successful.
1153
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,870
Maybe the kind of success that...
1154
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:03,540
what you consider success,
wouldn't be success to us.
1155
01:06:03,830 --> 01:06:07,210
I don't like to think of music
in career terms at all.
1156
01:06:07,380 --> 01:06:08,510
Hey, Stephen,
1157
01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:11,220
this looks like the most
painful experience for you, is it?
1158
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:12,800
- It's not bad.
- You're not sad?
1159
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,010
It's just sitting next to me.
1160
01:06:14,050 --> 01:06:15,300
You're grimacing going...
1161
01:06:15,350 --> 01:06:16,890
No, no. That wasn't...
1162
01:06:17,010 --> 01:06:18,100
Well...
1163
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:20,730
I don't...
I think you misinterpreted me again.
1164
01:06:20,980 --> 01:06:22,640
[Music continues]
1165
01:06:22,690 --> 01:06:24,860
[Stephen]
Maybe I shouldn't even sing it.
1166
01:06:25,020 --> 01:06:28,480
If I was John Cougar, I would have
blown the show off, or Radiohead...
1167
01:06:28,530 --> 01:06:31,240
But we're not that big,
so I have to keep playing.
1168
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,320
I apologize.
1169
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,830
[Music plays -
Brinx Job
] ♪ We got
The money
1170
01:06:35,870 --> 01:06:37,370
♪
We got the money
♪
1171
01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:40,290
[Music plays -
Hit the Plane Down
]
♪
There's no survivors
1172
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,670
♪
There's no survivors
♪
1173
01:06:46,130 --> 01:06:49,880
[Interviewer]
What's the best part
about being in Pavement for you?
1174
01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:52,090
Hmm...
1175
01:06:52,340 --> 01:06:54,220
[Delicate guitar plucking]
1176
01:06:54,430 --> 01:06:56,100
The best part...
1177
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:03,270
Alright, alright, alright,
never mind, this one is...
1178
01:07:03,350 --> 01:07:05,400
Go ahead, you decide, whatever.
1179
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,770
No way, this song sucks.
1180
01:07:07,820 --> 01:07:10,110
[Audience yells]
1181
01:07:14,740 --> 01:07:17,530
No way, song's stupid.
1182
01:07:18,450 --> 01:07:19,990
The song is really stupid.
1183
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,040
[Music plays -
Here
]
1184
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,880
♪
Well, I was dressed for suc...
1185
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:30,340
♪
Success, it never comes
1186
01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:36,090
♪
And I'm the only one who laughs
1187
01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:41,560
- ♪
At your jokes when they are so bad
♪
- [Music obscures dialogue]
1188
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,230
♪
And your jokes are always bad
1189
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,570
♪
But they're not as bad as this
1190
01:07:53,150 --> 01:07:56,240
♪
Come join us in a prayer
1191
01:07:57,860 --> 01:08:01,200
♪
We'll be waiting, waiting where
1192
01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:07,210
♪
Everything's ending here
♪
1193
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:09,920
[Music fades]
1194
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,920
Ladies and gentlemen,
on the lead guitar,
1195
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,050
your lead vocalist tonight
all the way from Stockton, California,
1196
01:08:16,340 --> 01:08:19,140
Stephen Joseph motherfucking Malkmus!
1197
01:08:19,180 --> 01:08:21,760
[Playful, indie rock music]
1198
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:36,400
That was actually pretty good.
1199
01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:40,370
Scott, there's a beautiful bird
in your throat, soaring!
1200
01:08:40,410 --> 01:08:42,950
- [Stephen] Yeah, that was good today.
- Sounding so good!
1201
01:08:42,990 --> 01:08:45,160
- You did it great.
- [Bob] She's a tough critic, too, Scott.
1202
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,000
I would take that.
A very tough critic.
1203
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,670
[Stephen] It all sounded good.
1204
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,300
[Director]
What's the musician biopic
gold standard for you?
1205
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,010
- [Joe]
I think
Bohemian Rhapsody.
- [Director]
Yeah, something like that.
1206
01:08:58,050 --> 01:08:59,340
[Joe]
I can imagine this...
1207
01:08:59,510 --> 01:09:02,850
Well, in some ways,
pushing a little further.
1208
01:09:02,890 --> 01:09:04,470
[Delicate piano notes]
1209
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,720
- [Indistinct chatter]
- [Soft guitar strumming joins]
1210
01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:13,860
Yeah, it's the sort of character
you can see yourself playing, you know...
1211
01:09:15,690 --> 01:09:19,240
for a decade, like a
Rocky
or like a
Boyhood
,
1212
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,030
or something to come back to.
1213
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,030
[Director]
Right, because we're covering
1214
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,620
-
the '95 era.
- [Joe]
Right.
1215
01:09:24,660 --> 01:09:26,910
[Director]
Not to say
we couldn't then very quickly
1216
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:29,330
make the '92 or '94 era movie as well.
1217
01:09:29,370 --> 01:09:30,710
[Joe] Yeah, of course.
1218
01:09:30,750 --> 01:09:31,920
[No audible dialogue]
1219
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,750
[Joe]
And when you go that deep
into characters, it's...
1220
01:09:35,460 --> 01:09:37,670
you know,
it can be difficult to re-surface,
1221
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,600
so sometimes it's easier to just
hold your breath and keep swimming.
1222
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:45,180
- [Accent coach] Did you take one?
- I got one.
1223
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:47,890
- Oh my god, love to see it!
- From production, yeah.
1224
01:09:48,020 --> 01:09:50,020
[Accent coach] Oh wow, that is just...
1225
01:09:50,060 --> 01:09:52,150
He allowed us to take a photo.
1226
01:09:52,190 --> 01:09:53,940
We went up to his house and...
1227
01:09:54,110 --> 01:09:55,110
He, um...
1228
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:56,730
He had just eaten, you can see it.
1229
01:09:56,780 --> 01:09:58,320
Did you get one of the tongue?
1230
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,780
He was about to go play tennis,
1231
01:10:00,820 --> 01:10:02,860
so we had to do it very quickly, but...
1232
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:05,530
He's trying to lay it flat
whether he knows it or not,
1233
01:10:05,580 --> 01:10:06,910
because he's taking a picture.
1234
01:10:06,990 --> 01:10:09,660
It's also really cool to think
about the fact that
1235
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,500
all the music
and the work that I've been doing
1236
01:10:14,540 --> 01:10:16,050
has all come from this place.
1237
01:10:17,250 --> 01:10:18,260
[Accent coach] Hmm.
1238
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:24,550
I've been so deep in S.M.
that to go back into Steve, S.H...
1239
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,760
Um...
1240
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,310
You know, I'm thinking it might be
difficult to kind of shake it off,
1241
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:33,310
because that "fry" is something
I've really gotten used to.
1242
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:36,270
- Yeah.
- I feel like I can't really tell anymore,
1243
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,980
but I feel like my body
has really adapted to the "fry."
1244
01:10:40,030 --> 01:10:41,360
You're doing it now.
1245
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:43,360
Right now? Yeah.
1246
01:10:43,490 --> 01:10:45,740
I thought this was something
you would just...
1247
01:10:45,780 --> 01:10:47,410
That you can just...
1248
01:10:47,740 --> 01:10:50,910
You can drop it and go away
and it'd be all.
1249
01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:53,830
You can't just sort of...?
1250
01:10:54,670 --> 01:10:56,960
It might be, I don't know.
1251
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,300
I mean, this is the first time
we've worked together.
1252
01:11:01,050 --> 01:11:03,590
Yeah. I think I've made a big mistake.
1253
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,550
It's... I wouldn't say...
You don't...
1254
01:11:08,010 --> 01:11:10,640
- I think I've made a really big mistake.
- No, no, no, no.
1255
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,270
[Faint Pavement music
plays in the background]
1256
01:11:14,730 --> 01:11:16,310
It's a possibility but that doesn't...
1257
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,110
I don't think I really want to be Stephen.
1258
01:11:18,150 --> 01:11:21,610
I don't want to be Stephen anymore
I don't think so much.
1259
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:24,700
[Director] Joe.
1260
01:11:25,910 --> 01:11:26,910
Joe.
1261
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,740
- Stephen?
- Yeah.
1262
01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:33,710
- [Director] You almost ready?
- [Jason]
Joe being Stephen...
1263
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:36,040
I can't even believe I'm calling him Joe.
1264
01:11:38,170 --> 01:11:41,170
It's weird 'cause now when
I look at pictures of Stephen Malkmus,
1265
01:11:41,210 --> 01:11:43,420
I think he looks like Joe Keery.
1266
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:46,430
So it's becoming like a thing.
1267
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:48,850
[Delicate, string music]
1268
01:12:10,830 --> 01:12:13,120
[Joyful string music]
1269
01:12:16,710 --> 01:12:18,710
Who puts out a three-sided record?
1270
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:20,040
Chris, why'd we agree to this?
1271
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,670
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
was a hit for us.
1272
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,340
Nearly doubled the sales
of
Slanted and Enchanted.
1273
01:12:25,380 --> 01:12:27,090
The singles were top-notch.
1274
01:12:27,380 --> 01:12:28,550
You were on
The Tonight Show
.
1275
01:12:28,590 --> 01:12:31,390
[Fictional Steve] Which we all agreed
was lame and fake,
1276
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:33,890
and you played poorly,
which we appreciated,
1277
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,600
which I appreciated.
1278
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,600
Right. And what do you do
with this complete freedom?
1279
01:12:38,770 --> 01:12:42,360
How do you repay us for keeping
this operation as intimate as possible?
1280
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,280
You release a sprawling 18-track
record with no clear hits.
1281
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,030
There's three sides on it,
we left the fourth side blank!
1282
01:12:49,570 --> 01:12:52,370
Just baffling choices, guys.
Non-choices.
1283
01:12:52,410 --> 01:12:55,290
[Fictional Stephen] I didn't think anybody
ever made a 3-sided record
1284
01:12:55,330 --> 01:12:57,370
so I thought it was kind of funny.
1285
01:12:57,410 --> 01:13:00,500
[Fictional Steve] Oh, it's hilarious.
You know why no one's done it?
1286
01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:03,420
Because it's masturbatory,
pretentious bullshit.
1287
01:13:04,050 --> 01:13:05,380
[Man] Alright, rolling sound.
1288
01:13:06,220 --> 01:13:09,470
[Director] Quietly listening
to the blank side of
Wowee Zowee.
1289
01:13:11,300 --> 01:13:13,010
- Camera...
- Fuck.
1290
01:13:13,060 --> 01:13:15,260
[Crew member] Speed.
One Golf, take one, D, mark.
1291
01:13:16,810 --> 01:13:18,020
[Director] And...
1292
01:13:18,430 --> 01:13:20,850
Can I have a little bit of Jason
to start right there?
1293
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:22,150
And action.
1294
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:34,120
[Stephen]
I know I listened to it,
I liked the record.
1295
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,660
There's lots of interesting sounds
on it and...
1296
01:13:39,210 --> 01:13:41,830
You know, it's just a record where
we got out of our heads a little bit.
1297
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,000
I think it's more fun to listen to.
1298
01:13:44,340 --> 01:13:48,590
And there's more there,
it's a long album, it's an hour long.
1299
01:13:49,050 --> 01:13:51,470
And my hope is that...
1300
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:53,760
To buy this song,
the listener gets value for money.
1301
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,220
Yeah!
It's a better value.
1302
01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:57,600
I thought a ten-song record
would be cool.
1303
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:00,230
That this was like the re-issue
before the re-issue,
1304
01:14:00,270 --> 01:14:01,520
but I lost that battle.
1305
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,310
At that time, we were pretty cocky,
we were like...
1306
01:14:05,070 --> 01:14:07,150
You know,
"We could put out anything."
1307
01:14:07,190 --> 01:14:12,610
When that record came out, it was
really the first time we got any backlash.
1308
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,700
It's still our least amount
of records we've ever sold.
1309
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:18,240
Three-sided vinyl...
1310
01:14:18,290 --> 01:14:19,500
[He laughs]
1311
01:14:19,540 --> 01:14:22,460
A record with it's own B-sides on it,
that's smart thinking to me.
1312
01:14:22,670 --> 01:14:24,080
I think it's our best record.
1313
01:14:24,250 --> 01:14:28,590
I think it's a "Fuck you-
we-don't-want-any-fans" record.
1314
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:31,840
[Interviewer] What would you say
is your favorite Pavement album?
1315
01:14:32,260 --> 01:14:33,340
Do you have one?
1316
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:35,470
Yeah,
Wowee Zowee
would be mine.
1317
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,180
It kinda captured the weirdness,
perverted side of our band.
1318
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:41,810
...half-baked...
1319
01:14:42,190 --> 01:14:44,230
Remember how Smashing Pumpkins
had you black-listed
1320
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,060
from Lollapalooza last summer?
1321
01:14:46,110 --> 01:14:48,230
They've come back,
and offered it to you again,
1322
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:49,280
And you're doing it.
1323
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,320
This summer, because of record sales
the way they are...
1324
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,660
We don't want to be the band that like...
1325
01:14:54,030 --> 01:14:56,370
sells out and sounds worse and, like...
1326
01:14:56,450 --> 01:14:58,370
it's reaching for something
they're not...
1327
01:14:58,410 --> 01:15:01,870
We're very satisfied
with our level of success.
1328
01:15:02,540 --> 01:15:06,080
But there was a thought maybe
they're gonna be this like...
1329
01:15:06,170 --> 01:15:07,540
Nirvana-type band...
1330
01:15:07,710 --> 01:15:11,130
But then we gave them
Wowee Zowee
,
and I picked
Rattled by the Rush
,
1331
01:15:11,170 --> 01:15:12,970
and
Father to a Sister of Thought
.
1332
01:15:13,010 --> 01:15:16,760
These two really mellow songs
are just slow and not...
1333
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:19,970
But I didn't know, I think I was smoking
a lot of grass back then.
1334
01:15:20,020 --> 01:15:21,350
To me, they sounded like hits.
1335
01:15:21,390 --> 01:15:25,310
Chris, when the fuck have we cared about
what Rolling fucking Stone thinks, dude?
1336
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:29,730
Look, you guys made a loosey-goosey,
bullshit record,
1337
01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:32,610
to avoid becoming the band
that your last record
1338
01:15:32,740 --> 01:15:34,150
promised that you might be.
1339
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,660
It's not
Metal Machine Music
,
it's a cool record.
1340
01:15:38,450 --> 01:15:39,910
I like it.
1341
01:15:41,410 --> 01:15:44,960
[Steve] Well, if you gave us that record,
we'd all be in here celebrating.
1342
01:15:45,790 --> 01:15:47,290
[Chris Lombardi] Malkmus!
1343
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,750
[Delicate piano notes]
1344
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,430
Stephen... Stephen!
1345
01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:07,100
I would never do anything
to compromise your integrity.
1346
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:09,440
Gerard and I have your back.
1347
01:16:09,820 --> 01:16:11,690
- Yeah, I know.
- Yeah?
1348
01:16:11,730 --> 01:16:13,030
Mm-hmm.
1349
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:15,530
Hey.
1350
01:16:15,650 --> 01:16:18,280
After we signed our
distro deal with Atlantic,
1351
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,320
who kept their logos off your record?
1352
01:16:20,410 --> 01:16:22,330
[Delicate emotive music]
1353
01:16:22,370 --> 01:16:24,080
Huh?
1354
01:16:24,250 --> 01:16:29,080
Do you remember what you said
when Nirvana asked you to play with them?
1355
01:16:29,380 --> 01:16:30,880
Huh? You said...
1356
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,760
"Who plays first?"
And what did I do?
1357
01:16:36,010 --> 01:16:38,140
You went back and asked,
"Who plays first?"
1358
01:16:38,180 --> 01:16:40,140
Because I support you.
1359
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,680
Does the tour come to New York?
1360
01:16:45,810 --> 01:16:48,230
What if it really was a moment like this?
1361
01:16:48,270 --> 01:16:49,270
[Director] In life?
1362
01:16:49,310 --> 01:16:50,980
Yeah, where he's like,
"Stephen, come on."
1363
01:16:51,020 --> 01:16:53,020
[Director] As far as I know,
there never has been.
1364
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:55,400
What do you mean?
"It's gonna be in New York?"
1365
01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:58,200
[Director] I mean,
that was a factual concern
1366
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,200
because he specifically said,
"Does Lollapalooza play New York?"
1367
01:17:02,580 --> 01:17:06,040
And then he was embarrassed about doing it
in front of a New York crowd.
1368
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,120
[They sing] ♪
It has a nice ring
when you laugh
1369
01:17:09,170 --> 01:17:12,380
♪
At the low life opinions
1370
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,500
♪
And we're coming to the chorus now
♪
1371
01:17:15,670 --> 01:17:19,300
With our type of music,
because it's not always so immediate.
1372
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,430
It's not just the hits right away,
like Oasis.
1373
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:27,140
People have to love it like an album,
and they have to get into it over time,
1374
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:30,810
and develop a relationship with it.
1375
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,780
We're doing our own thing,
we hope people can understand.
1376
01:17:34,860 --> 01:17:36,690
[Music plays -
Gold Soundz
]
1377
01:17:37,190 --> 01:17:39,990
♪
And you can never quarantine the past
♪
1378
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:44,910
In this context, it's so mind-blowing.
1379
01:17:53,710 --> 01:17:55,380
[Director]
I don't know
1380
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,170
if this is a good idea.
1381
01:17:59,010 --> 01:18:03,680
I just think that
of all the bands you could do this for,
1382
01:18:04,180 --> 01:18:08,180
bands that Pavement touched up against,
in one way or another,
1383
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:13,150
Sonic Youth, Nirvana,
all these bands from the '90s,
1384
01:18:13,650 --> 01:18:18,070
You couldn't do a stage show like this
with any of their songs.
1385
01:18:18,820 --> 01:18:22,910
But you can translate Pavement
right up there onto that stage.
1386
01:18:23,820 --> 01:18:26,080
And that means you have to try.
1387
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,410
We're a couple of months
into this process here.
1388
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:32,460
Michael, he's nervous.
1389
01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:36,170
He says he went through this
when he starred in
American Idiot
.
1390
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:41,340
He's talking to me about this
and I can't answer because...
1391
01:18:41,630 --> 01:18:46,100
My answer is,
"Yeah, this could be a terrible idea."
1392
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,810
- [Indistinct chatter]
- [Music plays -
We Dance
]
1393
01:19:02,780 --> 01:19:05,070
♪
There is no
1394
01:19:06,740 --> 01:19:09,910
♪
Castration fear
1395
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,710
♪
In a chair
1396
01:19:18,710 --> 01:19:20,880
♪
You will be
1397
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:24,430
♪
With me
1398
01:19:27,140 --> 01:19:28,970
♪
We'll dance
1399
01:19:30,890 --> 01:19:32,810
♪
We'll dance
1400
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,520
♪
We'll dance
1401
01:19:37,980 --> 01:19:40,110
♪
We'll dance
1402
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:47,990
♪
But no one will dance with us
1403
01:19:49,580 --> 01:19:53,080
♪
In this zany town
1404
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:57,170
♪
Chim-chim-chim
Sing a song of praise
1405
01:19:57,790 --> 01:20:00,170
♪
For your elders
1406
01:20:00,630 --> 01:20:02,960
♪
They're in the back
1407
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:11,100
♪
Pick out some Brazilian nuts
For your engagement
1408
01:20:13,180 --> 01:20:16,980
♪
Check that expiration date, man
1409
01:20:17,140 --> 01:20:20,070
♪
It's later than you think
1410
01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:23,820
♪
You can't enjoy yourself
I can't enjoy myself
1411
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,450
♪
You can't enjoy yourself
I can't enjoy myself
1412
01:20:29,530 --> 01:20:31,780
♪
Move that swing
1413
01:20:32,410 --> 01:20:35,250
♪
And watch it break straight like an arc
1414
01:20:36,580 --> 01:20:38,960
♪
Maybe we could dance
1415
01:20:40,540 --> 01:20:43,050
♪
Maybe we could dance
1416
01:20:44,210 --> 01:20:47,050
♪
Maybe we could dance
1417
01:20:47,550 --> 01:20:49,800
♪
Together
1418
01:20:51,390 --> 01:20:53,520
♪
Together
1419
01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:57,440
♪
Together
♪
1420
01:20:57,940 --> 01:21:00,230
[Music fades;
Indistinct chatter]
1421
01:21:00,980 --> 01:21:03,320
[Man] Scene 21, Interior, Ohio.
1422
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:05,940
Mark and Bob are just
playing ping pong once again.
1423
01:21:06,190 --> 01:21:08,900
Doubles against Elastica.
1424
01:21:09,660 --> 01:21:11,700
That dude Opie was so nice.
1425
01:21:11,740 --> 01:21:14,120
We should have him over
to play ping pong sometime.
1426
01:21:14,410 --> 01:21:17,660
I think you mean Moby,
the bald guy with the glasses?
1427
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,500
You saw what happened out there.
1428
01:21:19,540 --> 01:21:22,000
People were turning and walking away
as soon as we started.
1429
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,250
[Joe] I don't know what kind of band
you'd have to be
1430
01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:26,050
to succeed at 3pm like that.
1431
01:21:26,090 --> 01:21:28,340
So I've been thinking, three shows.
1432
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,140
The venues are horrible.
1433
01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:35,680
We're mostly playing in the daylight,
so it's like a red planet Mars out there.
1434
01:21:35,890 --> 01:21:38,520
So we need to be called...
1435
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:39,810
Pi,
1436
01:21:39,900 --> 01:21:41,560
Like the symbol.
1437
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,320
Yeah, fucking hilarious,
you can't spell Pavement without Pi.
1438
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:48,820
No, no Pavement. Just Pi.
1439
01:21:49,150 --> 01:21:51,320
Kind of like Kraftwerk
or some weird thing.
1440
01:21:51,570 --> 01:21:54,280
So because you think
we're in a ridiculous position,
1441
01:21:54,330 --> 01:21:56,540
you want to try to screw it up?
1442
01:21:57,290 --> 01:22:00,960
You take something that could go alright,
and do your own what-the-fuck version?
1443
01:22:01,170 --> 01:22:04,500
Lollapalooza '95 off to a great start.
1444
01:22:05,630 --> 01:22:07,210
[Faint singing]
1445
01:22:07,420 --> 01:22:09,010
[Stephen]
Imposters.
1446
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,260
Imposters.
1447
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:13,890
We can't deliver the goods.
1448
01:22:14,050 --> 01:22:16,810
It's hard to imagine being so comfortable
behaving in this fashion.
1449
01:22:16,970 --> 01:22:19,430
Isn't it more effort for you to go against
the flow like this?
1450
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:21,640
Wouldn't it be simpler
to just say, "Sure".
1451
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,100
[Director] I'm rolling.
1452
01:22:26,610 --> 01:22:29,070
Remember that show,
Stranger Things
?
1453
01:22:29,570 --> 01:22:31,030
In that part where I say...
1454
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,740
"Frenetic!" or "Genetic!"
I'm gonna say...
1455
01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:35,160
"Eleven!"
1456
01:22:35,450 --> 01:22:38,120
'Cause they have a cult following
they'll hear that and be like...
1457
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:40,660
"Wow! I like them too."
1458
01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:42,080
Eleven!
1459
01:22:47,300 --> 01:22:52,260
Oo-oo-oo-oo-ooh. I am here, live,
and in the studio with Pavement!
1460
01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:54,800
Who are going to be playing
at the East Center today,
1461
01:22:55,010 --> 01:22:56,260
as part of Lollapalooza.
1462
01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:59,020
New album is called
Wowee Zowee
.
1463
01:22:59,390 --> 01:23:00,770
I love to say it!
1464
01:23:00,810 --> 01:23:02,560
But it's a weird album,
I gotta say that,
1465
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,850
I got the record here and
1466
01:23:04,900 --> 01:23:06,360
I think there's something wrong with mine
1467
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,150
because one of the sides
of the record is completely blank.
1468
01:23:11,610 --> 01:23:15,320
It's just... who am I to say, but
it seems like with this album
1469
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:20,000
maybe you're trying to deliberately
alienate your fans or potential fans?
1470
01:23:20,450 --> 01:23:21,450
[Stephen chuckles]
1471
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:24,000
Sorry, is there a question or?
1472
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:29,840
[Woman] You were one of the first people
to have that vocal style of like...
1473
01:23:30,380 --> 01:23:32,420
[Woman vocalizes]
1474
01:23:32,590 --> 01:23:35,220
You can try to sing other ways,
I can't sing like Eddie Vedder,
1475
01:23:35,260 --> 01:23:36,840
I don't have a baritone.
1476
01:23:37,340 --> 01:23:38,850
You know,
I would if I could, maybe.
1477
01:23:38,890 --> 01:23:40,850
Singing out of tune is...
1478
01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:42,810
a revolutionary act.
1479
01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:46,310
The style captures the message,
practice, you know?
1480
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,900
So it's what?
Activism on your part?
1481
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,780
Call it "slacktivism"?
1482
01:23:50,860 --> 01:23:52,820
[Interviewer] The first question,
Stephen, is...
1483
01:23:52,940 --> 01:23:55,950
- First record you ever bought?
- [Interviewer obscures Joe]
1484
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,200
The first record
that I actually purchased
1485
01:24:00,910 --> 01:24:03,160
was
Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog
.
1486
01:24:03,330 --> 01:24:04,830
[Joe] Re-enforce power structures.
1487
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:08,290
I'm not sure who wrote the music,
but you might know the song...
1488
01:24:08,460 --> 01:24:11,130
[Stephen sings] ♪
Jeremiah
Was a bullfrog
1489
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,670
♪
Was a good friend of mine
♪
1490
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,510
Where are you trying to take this band?
1491
01:24:15,550 --> 01:24:17,390
If this is the album
that you want to put out.
1492
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:19,890
No, we don't think about it
in the same way. Um...
1493
01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:23,180
This is music.
1494
01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:25,480
- It's fun.
- [Indistinct conversation]
1495
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,190
It's work, and that's not fun.
1496
01:24:28,650 --> 01:24:33,190
We want to reach people
but only with the most pure intentions.
1497
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,450
I would definitely be like,
"Dude, why are you fucking this band up?"
1498
01:24:39,620 --> 01:24:42,240
I guess I already knew
that the music business
1499
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,450
was a weird place to exist.
1500
01:24:44,660 --> 01:24:47,660
When you're younger,
you have a little more like...
1501
01:24:48,210 --> 01:24:50,040
Think you're the hottest shit, maybe,
1502
01:24:50,290 --> 01:24:53,960
even if you don't say it,
you're modest in the interviews and stuff.
1503
01:24:54,380 --> 01:24:56,220
[They chuckle]
1504
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,930
[Man] He's given that up.
He admits that.
1505
01:24:58,970 --> 01:25:02,060
[Stephen] I wasn't thinking about that
at all when we were making the record.
1506
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:04,970
Everything is going to be great.
People are going to love us.
1507
01:25:05,020 --> 01:25:08,850
But there are other people on the business
side, that were working their butt off.
1508
01:25:09,770 --> 01:25:11,520
- Hello.
- [Gerard Cosloy] Hey, man, listen.
1509
01:25:11,730 --> 01:25:13,610
Forget
Rolling Stone
.
Fuck
Rolling Stone
.
1510
01:25:13,650 --> 01:25:14,820
We got something better.
1511
01:25:15,190 --> 01:25:16,400
Alright.
1512
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:19,110
We just got a call from Lorne Michaels,
1513
01:25:19,490 --> 01:25:23,280
and they want you, Pavement,
to be the musical guest
1514
01:25:23,330 --> 01:25:25,410
on an upcoming episode of
SNL
.
1515
01:25:25,500 --> 01:25:26,960
[Chris chuckles]
1516
01:25:28,460 --> 01:25:31,170
- [Gerard]
Hello?
- Yeah, I'm here.
1517
01:25:32,670 --> 01:25:37,130
So, listen, the other thing is
the host apparently is Quentin Tarantino.
1518
01:25:37,420 --> 01:25:39,260
And if you buy into this kind of shit,
1519
01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:42,640
that's the episode that all the so-called
cool kids are gonna be taping.
1520
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:43,890
Right.
1521
01:25:43,930 --> 01:25:46,850
We feel like this is a no-brainer.
1522
01:25:46,890 --> 01:25:49,480
Let's hear you say, "Great."
1523
01:25:50,020 --> 01:25:51,730
- [Joe chuckles]
- [Gerard]
Or "Fucking, yes!"
1524
01:25:51,770 --> 01:25:55,020
- When do we show up?
- [Chris] When should we be there?
1525
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:58,740
[Joe] Uh...
1526
01:25:59,070 --> 01:26:02,160
Nah, I don't wanna do that.
1527
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:04,990
Or I could go back and I could see
1528
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:08,080
if you could fuck it up
like The Replacements--
1529
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,790
Well, not like The Replacements but...
1530
01:26:10,330 --> 01:26:12,670
Elvis Costello? I don't know.
1531
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:16,210
- Wear a fuckin' dress?
- Yeah.
1532
01:26:17,630 --> 01:26:19,550
I'll do this show.
1533
01:26:20,090 --> 01:26:22,260
Show the animal doing tricks.
1534
01:26:23,010 --> 01:26:25,560
- Yeah, we could go on after the animals.
- [Chris]
Stephen!
1535
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:30,100
This is an opportunity to get in front
of five million viewers! Maybe more!
1536
01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:33,730
That's a lot of ears,
that's ten million ears!
1537
01:26:34,860 --> 01:26:36,400
It's whatever you want, man, ya know?
1538
01:26:36,440 --> 01:26:40,360
Just let us know what you want to do,
and we got your back, alright?
1539
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:44,620
- Everything else good?
- [Stephen]
Um...
1540
01:26:45,620 --> 01:26:46,700
Not great.
1541
01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:50,620
The sets are poor,
the attendance is mild...
1542
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,040
Vibes are generally poor.
1543
01:26:55,630 --> 01:26:57,420
- [Gerard]
Alrighty, then.
- [Chris]
Alright.
1544
01:26:57,460 --> 01:26:59,880
- Check in soon.
- [Chris] Bye, bye.
1545
01:27:01,550 --> 01:27:02,630
[He sighs]
1546
01:27:06,970 --> 01:27:09,470
[Sulky rock music]
1547
01:27:13,730 --> 01:27:15,940
[Music stops,
Electric guitar feedback]
1548
01:27:15,980 --> 01:27:20,070
- Check, check, check...
- [Man in play] The new word is "fungi".
1549
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,320
"Fungi."
1550
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:22,740
[Woman] What's the word?
1551
01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:24,910
- [Man] Fungi.
- [Woman] Fungi?
1552
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:28,330
Like he ran into the woods
and found some fungi.
1553
01:27:28,740 --> 01:27:31,500
[Woman in play] I take my mushrooming
knife into the woods...
1554
01:27:32,370 --> 01:27:34,420
[Actress vocalizes]
1555
01:27:37,460 --> 01:27:39,000
[Man vocalizes]
1556
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,710
[Man from film play]
Scene 11. Interior.
Pavement's room. Backstage.
1557
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,260
We see a gig poster for
Lollapalooza '95,
1558
01:27:44,300 --> 01:27:46,970
and the date for the show,
July 4, 1995.
1559
01:27:47,220 --> 01:27:49,180
There is a calm normalcy to this all,
1560
01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:51,470
but a tension that suggests
the dam is about to break.
1561
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,190
I would love my parents to see
the great Pavement show.
1562
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,940
[Stephen] I have a feeling that this show
may be in fact legendary.
1563
01:27:58,980 --> 01:28:01,320
[They play fast-paced, rock music]
1564
01:28:07,660 --> 01:28:09,740
[Music stops]
1565
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:13,870
- [Singing] ♪
...are always bad
♪
- [Inaudible dialogue]
1566
01:28:15,420 --> 01:28:18,710
♪
But not as bad as this
♪
1567
01:28:20,710 --> 01:28:22,760
[Stephen]
It's gonna be fine.
1568
01:28:23,210 --> 01:28:25,590
We practiced a lot, so I feel like...
1569
01:28:27,260 --> 01:28:29,430
I don't have...
I'm feeling confident...
1570
01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:33,390
We practiced like
more than we ever practiced.
1571
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:34,680
Really?
1572
01:28:34,730 --> 01:28:39,020
It's weird to be better
when it doesn't really matter.
1573
01:28:39,690 --> 01:28:42,150
Ya know what I mean,
like I wish I would have...
1574
01:28:42,440 --> 01:28:45,490
There's good things about
being lackadaisical.
1575
01:28:45,530 --> 01:28:47,070
But also...
1576
01:28:47,740 --> 01:28:50,870
Like just moving forward always is
"I gotta do the next thing."
1577
01:28:50,910 --> 01:28:53,700
But this is all done,
so you are just re-creating something.
1578
01:28:53,790 --> 01:28:58,460
There's no next thing,
so you can really dial it in a little bit.
1579
01:28:58,710 --> 01:29:00,460
- [Chris] Hmm, yeah.
- Yeah.
1580
01:29:01,340 --> 01:29:03,670
Watch the show be totally shit...
1581
01:29:03,710 --> 01:29:05,260
[Music plays -
AT&T
]
1582
01:29:05,340 --> 01:29:06,920
♪
Maybe
1583
01:29:08,300 --> 01:29:11,100
♪
Someone's gonna save me
1584
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:15,310
♪
My heart is made of gravy
1585
01:29:15,930 --> 01:29:20,440
♪
And the laps I swim
From lunatics don't count
1586
01:29:20,690 --> 01:29:23,360
♪
Open up your stocking
1587
01:29:24,610 --> 01:29:28,280
♪
Pull out all the things
You never wanted
1588
01:29:28,450 --> 01:29:31,410
♪
From room service calls
♪
1589
01:29:31,450 --> 01:29:33,620
[Runner] This is
a five minute call, everybody.
1590
01:29:33,780 --> 01:29:38,000
[Reporter]
I'm in New York City
in front of 472 Greenwich Street,
1591
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:42,580
where Chris Lombardi lived when he
co-founded Matador Records in 1989.
1592
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:46,710
Today Matador's signature band,
Pavement, is being honored
1593
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,470
with the opening
of their very own museum show.
1594
01:29:50,180 --> 01:29:52,970
[Electronic ambient music]
1595
01:30:06,150 --> 01:30:08,570
[Cheers and applause]
1596
01:30:08,610 --> 01:30:10,280
[Announcer] Everyone, here we go.
1597
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,740
Welcome to
Slanted! Enchanted!
1598
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,330
[Crowd cheers]
1599
01:30:34,340 --> 01:30:36,470
[Music plays -
Grounded
]
1600
01:31:17,050 --> 01:31:22,890
♪
Your doctor's leaving for
The holiday season
1601
01:31:23,060 --> 01:31:28,110
♪
Got crystal ice picks
No gift for the gab
1602
01:31:29,150 --> 01:31:34,740
♪
And in the parking lot
Is the sedan he bought
1603
01:31:35,070 --> 01:31:40,410
♪
He never, he never
Complains when it's hot
1604
01:31:40,910 --> 01:31:47,290
♪
He sold a swollen daughter
a sauna on a Tucson ridge
1605
01:31:53,050 --> 01:31:59,510
♪
They're smoking marijuana
Or doing blotters, I don't know which
1606
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,270
♪
Which, which
1607
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,060
♪
Boys are dying on these streets
♪
1608
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,160
[Crowd cheers]
1609
01:32:22,620 --> 01:32:24,790
[Song ends]
1610
01:32:28,580 --> 01:32:30,920
[They play
Embassy Row
]
1611
01:32:36,170 --> 01:32:39,640
♪
In a netherworld of foreign feeds
1612
01:32:39,890 --> 01:32:43,180
♪
In a netherworld of foreign feeds
1613
01:32:48,850 --> 01:32:52,820
♪
Well I've got style
Miles and miles
1614
01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:55,780
♪
So much style that it's leavin'
♪
1615
01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:59,120
- [They play -
Major Leagues
]
- ♪
Bring on the major leagues
1616
01:33:20,550 --> 01:33:22,850
[Song continues]
1617
01:33:37,650 --> 01:33:40,860
Thank you, West Virginia!
Pavement are up next!
1618
01:33:40,910 --> 01:33:43,660
[Director] Dicky Barrett, the singer
of the Bosstones, drenched in sweat,
1619
01:33:43,700 --> 01:33:45,200
wearing a suit,
comes over to them.
1620
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:49,120
Heads up, they started hosing
down the crowd since it's so fuckin' hot.
1621
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,790
So there's kind of a mud pit
in front of the stage.
1622
01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:53,340
[Stephen] Meaning what?
1623
01:33:53,710 --> 01:33:56,760
[Dicky] There's some lunkheads
lookin' like they want to fling some mud.
1624
01:33:57,010 --> 01:33:58,260
So look out, is all.
1625
01:33:58,420 --> 01:34:00,590
[Director] Dicky gives
an enthusiastic fist pump,
1626
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:02,510
and the suited Bosstones
all leave the stage.
1627
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:04,560
We focus on our guys.
1628
01:34:05,010 --> 01:34:08,520
There is a sense that they are
on the precipice of a major league, tense,
1629
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,390
and perhaps troubling moment,
1630
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,810
waiting on the edge of a battle vibe.
1631
01:34:12,980 --> 01:34:15,190
[Music plays -
Fight This Generation
]
1632
01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:31,370
[Music continues] ♪
Look up to people
So tall to you
1633
01:34:32,420 --> 01:34:34,080
♪
I can't
1634
01:34:34,500 --> 01:34:38,550
♪
So I won't stand up
1635
01:34:39,170 --> 01:34:40,420
♪
Chuck
1636
01:34:40,670 --> 01:34:43,010
♪
Break luck
1637
01:34:43,550 --> 01:34:48,430
♪
Look for the splinters
You might see where they come in
1638
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,680
♪
You go down
1639
01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:53,520
♪
Sweet Yardley
1640
01:34:55,190 --> 01:34:58,900
♪
I won't let you fall down
1641
01:34:59,740 --> 01:35:02,030
♪
Sweet Yardley
1642
01:35:03,570 --> 01:35:06,950
♪
I won't let you fall down
1643
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,500
♪
Here, now
♪
1644
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,380
[Cheers and applause]
1645
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:17,920
[Song continues]
1646
01:35:26,970 --> 01:35:29,470
- [Music builds]
- ♪
Generation
1647
01:35:31,930 --> 01:35:34,440
♪
Generation
1648
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,110
[Shouted] ♪
Generation
1649
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,860
♪
Generation
1650
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,160
[Stephen, at concert]
Do you have
a cigarette?
1651
01:35:54,330 --> 01:35:56,210
♪
Fight this generation
1652
01:35:56,580 --> 01:35:58,080
♪
Fight this generation
1653
01:35:58,750 --> 01:36:01,380
♪
Fight this generation
Fight this generation
1654
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,840
♪
Fight this generation
1655
01:36:04,010 --> 01:36:05,930
♪
Fight this generation
♪
1656
01:36:24,820 --> 01:36:26,660
[Song ends;
Booing]
1657
01:36:36,290 --> 01:36:39,790
I can only get mud thrown at me
so many times.
1658
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,770
Fuck you! Fuck you!
1659
01:36:56,020 --> 01:36:57,350
Motherfuckers!
1660
01:36:58,730 --> 01:37:01,320
Fuck you! Fuck you!
1661
01:37:02,230 --> 01:37:04,610
Fuck you, motherfuckers!
1662
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,660
Fuck you, motherfuckers!
Fuck you!
1663
01:37:18,580 --> 01:37:20,710
Fuck you!
1664
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,340
Fuck you!
1665
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,710
Fuck you!
1666
01:37:31,050 --> 01:37:32,800
[Woman] I love to be muddy.
1667
01:37:32,850 --> 01:37:34,850
[Woman 2] Nah, fuck that shit.
1668
01:37:36,810 --> 01:37:38,890
- [Woman] Yeah!
- [Woman 2] That fucking sucks.
1669
01:37:38,980 --> 01:37:41,810
You're all from fucking D.C.!
Fuck You!
1670
01:37:45,070 --> 01:37:47,700
Man, that just fucking sucks!
1671
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:50,070
[Delicate piano notes]
1672
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:54,330
[Chris] Look at these guys.
The band that ruined Lollapalooza.
1673
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,410
Is that what you want
your legacy to be?
1674
01:37:58,870 --> 01:38:01,750
Like being a heavy metal band in 1992.
1675
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,710
Can't ruin something
that's already been ruined.
1676
01:38:05,710 --> 01:38:07,170
We can't do it.
1677
01:38:08,220 --> 01:38:10,630
We're not Sonic Youth.
We're not Hole.
1678
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,340
- We're not Opie.
- Moby. Moby!
1679
01:38:14,430 --> 01:38:18,020
Can't figure out how to be like those
bands, while still be in this band.
1680
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:20,350
[Chris] I don't want you to be
like those other bands,
1681
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,190
I want you to be Pavement!
1682
01:38:26,780 --> 01:38:29,990
- That old refrain...
- [Mocking] It doesn't matter.
1683
01:38:30,150 --> 01:38:33,360
If I had a buck for every single time
you said "it doesn't matter,"
1684
01:38:33,490 --> 01:38:36,200
then I'd make more money
than I'll ever make in this fuckin' band.
1685
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:37,740
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
1686
01:38:37,790 --> 01:38:39,870
[Fictional Scott] There it is,
two bucks in my pocket!
1687
01:38:40,410 --> 01:38:42,210
- Are we a band?
- [Lively conversation in footage]
1688
01:38:42,250 --> 01:38:45,590
Are we a group of buds jammin' tunes,
or is this a job?
1689
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,420
Because when we started this band
five years ago back
1690
01:38:48,460 --> 01:38:50,300
in Nowheresville, Stockton,
1691
01:38:50,590 --> 01:38:54,300
I didn't think we'd get much further
than selling a few hundred EPs,
1692
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,180
so it's all gravy, it's all good.
1693
01:38:56,300 --> 01:38:58,470
Why does everything have to be
a strategic decision?
1694
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,270
[Fictional Scott] Because I wanna be
as good as we can be.
1695
01:39:01,310 --> 01:39:03,600
Alright? And I wanna be
as respected as we can be.
1696
01:39:03,650 --> 01:39:05,360
I wanna be as popular as we can be.
1697
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,070
Every time you say that
"it doesn't fuckin' matter,"
1698
01:39:08,110 --> 01:39:10,320
you rob us of going
the next step forward,
1699
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:11,950
- it's bullshit!
- Maybe we already are
1700
01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:14,030
and you don't realize it yet!
1701
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:16,240
[Chris] Alright! Take it down a notch!
1702
01:39:16,450 --> 01:39:19,200
I've been in the same band as you
since the beginning!
1703
01:39:19,580 --> 01:39:21,040
Bullshit.
1704
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:22,580
[Fictional Stephen] I got hit...
1705
01:39:23,370 --> 01:39:26,420
in my body with a rock
so I thought the show was over.
1706
01:39:26,460 --> 01:39:28,300
[Delicate, sad music]
1707
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,260
I'm sorry.
1708
01:39:33,130 --> 01:39:35,140
There, are you happy?
1709
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,350
Yep, I am.
1710
01:39:40,060 --> 01:39:43,730
So fuckin' uncomfortable, I've got
so much dirt and mud in my asshole.
1711
01:39:43,810 --> 01:39:45,730
[They laugh]
1712
01:39:45,850 --> 01:39:49,230
They wanna kick you off the tour,
and part of me thinks I should let them,
1713
01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:52,440
but I know you don't want to get fired,
1714
01:39:53,110 --> 01:39:56,320
I know you want to give that 100%
of that 50%
1715
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,030
that you think you might be able to give.
1716
01:40:04,290 --> 01:40:06,880
[Rousing, melancholic music]
1717
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:23,180
[Steve] I didn't know how
they got all that clothing
1718
01:40:23,220 --> 01:40:27,060
from the West Virginia show,
Lollapalooza, where they threw mud at us.
1719
01:40:27,650 --> 01:40:30,440
But that's it. And it's still dirty
after all these years.
1720
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:32,030
Nobody did their laundry.
1721
01:40:32,110 --> 01:40:35,110
I've got the actual amp
with the mud on it, the bass amp.
1722
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:36,820
So you still have the same bass amp?
1723
01:40:36,860 --> 01:40:40,280
Yeah, we got a lot of great press
out of that really tough moment.
1724
01:40:40,410 --> 01:40:43,290
And the best thing about being the drummer
and facing the crowd,
1725
01:40:43,330 --> 01:40:46,580
I could dodge all the mud
that was thrown.
1726
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,250
And I had cymbals to block me too.
1727
01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:52,460
So I didn't get hit like I think
Stephen got hit.
1728
01:40:54,590 --> 01:40:56,920
[Music plays -
Here
, by Soccer Mommy]
1729
01:40:57,470 --> 01:41:01,010
♪ I was dressed for success
1730
01:41:02,010 --> 01:41:05,850
♪
But success, it never comes
1731
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:10,230
♪
And I'm the only one who laughs...
♪
1732
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,570
You're just arriving,
this must be a little overwhelming?
1733
01:41:14,190 --> 01:41:16,440
Sorry, I'm just freaked out.
1734
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:18,990
Yeah, right, this is your life?
1735
01:41:19,530 --> 01:41:21,200
Start crying.
1736
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,450
♪
But they're not as bad as...
♪
1737
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:27,160
I thought it was supposed to be fake.
1738
01:41:27,580 --> 01:41:28,960
This is all real.
1739
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,630
No, I never thought
that I would be an art museum.
1740
01:41:32,670 --> 01:41:35,130
I could spend a long time
just looking right here.
1741
01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:38,130
♪
They're coming to the chorus now
1742
01:41:38,220 --> 01:41:42,350
♪
Keep my address to yourself
'Cause we need secrets...
♪
1743
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,680
[Steve]
It's a bit overwhelming...
1744
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:46,680
But it's amazing to see it all up here.
1745
01:41:47,310 --> 01:41:51,230
That was on a door in Toronto,
I believe it was, at Lollapalooza.
1746
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:52,480
My daughter just said,
1747
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:55,440
"Oh, yeah, I remember seeing that
in the basement for about 10 years."
1748
01:41:55,570 --> 01:41:58,740
♪
This is the slow, sick,
Sucking part of me
1749
01:41:58,990 --> 01:42:02,320
♪
This is the slow, sick,
Sucking part of me
1750
01:42:02,530 --> 01:42:06,240
♪
This is the slow, sick,
Sucking part of me
♪
1751
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:10,040
[Bob]
A lot of this stuff I haven't seen
since it came out.
1752
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:11,880
Of course I never thought
it would be of...
1753
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,630
any significance besides from ourselves.
1754
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:18,340
Actually I work in horse-racing
where nobody's ever heard of Pavement.
1755
01:42:18,630 --> 01:42:21,300
So it's weird to go from a world where
1756
01:42:21,550 --> 01:42:23,470
people celebrate this kind of band.
1757
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,680
We always figured it was kind of obscure.
1758
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,650
[Interviewer]
So we're here with a
treasure trove of Pavement archives.
1759
01:42:40,700 --> 01:42:42,780
- [Stephen] It's true.
- You just walked in.
1760
01:42:42,910 --> 01:42:44,700
First impressions?
1761
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:49,370
I like the Steve Keene artwork
and there's a lot of people here.
1762
01:42:49,580 --> 01:42:52,580
[Interviewer] Does it feel vulnerable
to have some of these things
1763
01:42:52,670 --> 01:42:54,460
in the public for the first time?
1764
01:42:55,380 --> 01:43:00,130
Yeah, I'm impressed that I took the time
to write all this stuff by hand.
1765
01:43:00,510 --> 01:43:04,970
Unfortunately you're like in a museum,
it's kinda like old person stuff...
1766
01:43:05,220 --> 01:43:08,390
It's a little bit like that stuff you see
where the people are in the kitchen,
1767
01:43:08,430 --> 01:43:09,430
and they're like...
1768
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:14,230
honoring an older artist, before they...
1769
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,730
turn ashes to ashes, dust to dust,
so it's...
1770
01:43:18,230 --> 01:43:19,860
[They play
Cream of Gold
]
1771
01:43:19,900 --> 01:43:25,240
♪
Time is a one way track
And I am not coming back
1772
01:43:25,410 --> 01:43:30,660
♪
I dream in beige
Why'd you leave me so far now
1773
01:43:30,830 --> 01:43:36,170
♪
I bleed in beige
Why'd you leave me so far now
♪
1774
01:43:38,420 --> 01:43:41,720
[Stephen]
These give me a little PTSD
to be honest.
1775
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,090
So, it's kinda like too many shows.
1776
01:43:44,130 --> 01:43:46,600
This shit means a lot because...
1777
01:43:47,390 --> 01:43:49,720
You know,
the industry always doubted us,
1778
01:43:49,890 --> 01:43:51,640
said that we were...
1779
01:43:52,270 --> 01:43:53,600
slackers...
1780
01:43:53,980 --> 01:43:56,440
that we didn't have a hit in us, you know?
1781
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,110
And people believed, 'cause...
you know, look.
1782
01:43:59,900 --> 01:44:01,530
No one would have thought
1783
01:44:01,940 --> 01:44:04,990
at the time that these albums
could go gold, let alone platinum.
1784
01:44:05,660 --> 01:44:07,870
- And these records don't lie.
- No.
1785
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:14,000
We had a very problematic relationship
with this media corporation.
1786
01:44:14,250 --> 01:44:17,040
Just another group
that tried to keep us down.
1787
01:44:17,170 --> 01:44:19,380
I think of this
as sort of an olive branch,
1788
01:44:19,420 --> 01:44:21,550
you know, saying, "Hey, we were wrong.
1789
01:44:22,130 --> 01:44:23,670
"You guys are cool."
1790
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,640
♪
Don't you know?
I could make it dry, make it dry
1791
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,970
♪
Make it dry, make it dry
1792
01:44:31,180 --> 01:44:35,140
♪
I've been crowned, the king of it
♪
1793
01:44:35,390 --> 01:44:37,060
[Stephen]
Not proud about this.
1794
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:41,110
Sometimes you got bills to pay,
and stuff...
1795
01:44:42,190 --> 01:44:45,570
A little embarrassing this corner,
it's like a little sell-out corner.
1796
01:44:45,780 --> 01:44:48,120
But there was no kombucha back then.
1797
01:44:48,740 --> 01:44:51,240
[Interviewer] Did you see
the Abercrombie & Fitch ad?
1798
01:44:51,370 --> 01:44:53,790
Yeah. It's funny, right?
1799
01:44:54,500 --> 01:44:56,710
It's so insanely bad.
1800
01:44:57,250 --> 01:44:59,710
[They play -
Starlings of the Slipstream
]
1801
01:44:59,750 --> 01:45:02,840
♪
Starlings in the slipstream
♪
1802
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,100
[People cheer]
1803
01:45:16,350 --> 01:45:18,350
[Interviewer]
See how rowdy
it gets, right?
1804
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:22,110
People might just,
like in real art museums,
1805
01:45:22,150 --> 01:45:24,150
people steal things off the walls.
1806
01:45:24,190 --> 01:45:27,780
No, it's an amazing...
We got to see so many incredible bands
1807
01:45:27,950 --> 01:45:29,740
play some of my favorite Pavement songs.
1808
01:45:30,030 --> 01:45:34,120
It's just a dream come true.
I took one of the shirts off the wall.
1809
01:45:34,700 --> 01:45:38,210
I hereby christen Pavement 33-22.
1810
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,170
[People cheer]
1811
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,720
[Stephen]
It can mean a lot to you,
even if it's not like...
1812
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:50,430
It can mean enough to do this.
1813
01:45:50,510 --> 01:45:52,010
[Delicate, sentimental music]
1814
01:45:52,050 --> 01:45:56,810
It's kind of reified
that we are an important group.
1815
01:45:58,890 --> 01:46:02,400
I mean there's a lot of joy to be...
1816
01:46:02,690 --> 01:46:03,940
sentimental.
1817
01:46:04,650 --> 01:46:06,980
And people relate to that, I think.
1818
01:46:10,570 --> 01:46:13,320
[Director]
We're like fitting
and doing stuff and then...
1819
01:46:13,490 --> 01:46:15,870
filming all these scenes
with Chris and Gerard...
1820
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:16,910
over the weekend.
1821
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:19,540
[Mark] Right, Chris and Gerard
in quotation marks.
1822
01:46:19,580 --> 01:46:22,580
That's pretty amazing prop stuff.
1823
01:46:22,630 --> 01:46:26,000
[Logan] Yeah you know we got
some
Gold Soundz
premium lager.
1824
01:46:26,050 --> 01:46:29,220
[Nat] See, that's not realistic.
1825
01:46:29,260 --> 01:46:31,050
[Joe] It doesn't taste realistic either.
1826
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:35,220
If someone had said, "We're shooting
something about a band,"
1827
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:36,760
I wouldn't think,
1828
01:46:36,810 --> 01:46:38,980
"Oh this is Pavement,"
or whatever.
1829
01:46:39,310 --> 01:46:40,850
Like, "Cool..."
1830
01:46:41,020 --> 01:46:44,480
So what's happening now?
What are you guys about to do?
1831
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:45,650
[Sentimental music]
1832
01:46:45,690 --> 01:46:47,230
That actually sounds alright.
1833
01:46:47,940 --> 01:46:49,320
You in?
1834
01:46:50,700 --> 01:46:52,360
You guys, go for it.
1835
01:46:52,820 --> 01:46:55,410
I'm going to hang back,
work on some tunes.
1836
01:46:55,780 --> 01:46:57,200
Something new.
1837
01:46:59,960 --> 01:47:01,790
I can't wait to hear it.
1838
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:03,500
I love you, man.
1839
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,510
See you, Steve.
1840
01:47:09,130 --> 01:47:11,380
[Music continues]
1841
01:47:48,750 --> 01:47:51,010
[Music fades;
Gentle guitar plucking]
1842
01:48:04,890 --> 01:48:07,400
[He sings] ♪
Hey, listen to me
1843
01:48:07,650 --> 01:48:09,940
♪
I'm on the stereo
1844
01:48:10,020 --> 01:48:11,480
♪
Stereo
1845
01:48:12,440 --> 01:48:15,320
♪
Baby, baby, baby
1846
01:48:15,660 --> 01:48:17,620
♪
In stereo
♪
1847
01:48:18,660 --> 01:48:20,580
[Delicate bass guitar notes]
1848
01:48:26,460 --> 01:48:28,840
[Music plays -
Stereo
]
1849
01:48:29,130 --> 01:48:30,590
Please welcome Pavement!
1850
01:48:30,630 --> 01:48:32,590
Please welcome Pavement.
1851
01:48:35,340 --> 01:48:38,390
♪
High-ho silver ride
1852
01:48:39,470 --> 01:48:42,470
♪
Take another ride to see me home
1853
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:49,150
♪
Get off the air
I'm on the stereo, stereo
1854
01:48:49,810 --> 01:48:52,150
♪
Oh, my baby, baby, baby
1855
01:48:52,190 --> 01:48:53,570
♪
Baby, baby, baby
1856
01:48:53,740 --> 01:48:55,490
♪
Gave me malaria
1857
01:48:55,780 --> 01:48:57,280
♪
Hysteria
♪
1858
01:48:58,240 --> 01:48:59,950
[Song ends]
1859
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,200
[Crowd cheers]
1860
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,370
[Delicate, sentimental music]
1861
01:49:27,730 --> 01:49:29,900
I'll try to look like you,
you try to look like me.
1862
01:49:29,940 --> 01:49:30,980
That sounds good.
1863
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:38,990
Thank you everybody for coming here
to the New York premiere of
Range Life
.
1864
01:49:39,110 --> 01:49:42,120
It's been an amazing journey so far,
and now it's finally coming out.
1865
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:43,540
Joe Keery.
1866
01:49:44,540 --> 01:49:48,580
Pavement has a very interesting story,
but they're not Mötley Crüe.
1867
01:49:48,710 --> 01:49:53,170
And that was my challenge as a writer,
how to heighten this story,
1868
01:49:53,630 --> 01:49:55,710
to the most epic rock saga of the '90s.
1869
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,680
The movie I suppose
got compressed into this thing.
1870
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,600
I kinda totally forgot
or blocked out of my mind.
1871
01:50:02,890 --> 01:50:04,850
So I have to watch it again, I think.
1872
01:50:04,930 --> 01:50:09,140
I would be curious as to how
people will interpret this.
1873
01:50:09,690 --> 01:50:11,190
You know...
1874
01:50:11,860 --> 01:50:14,320
I can't really process, ya know...
1875
01:50:15,110 --> 01:50:16,110
any of it, so...
1876
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:20,160
The selling out thing, that's weird for me
'cause like it's such a blip in my...
1877
01:50:20,950 --> 01:50:22,030
like...
1878
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:25,580
So relatively irrelevant
to my feel of the band, you know?
1879
01:50:25,780 --> 01:50:27,790
The climax is where the climax is,
1880
01:50:27,870 --> 01:50:30,460
- then we tell the story we had to tell.
- Fine, it's a movie.
1881
01:50:30,500 --> 01:50:31,500
I hear you.
1882
01:50:31,580 --> 01:50:33,840
[Audience applauds;
Sentimental music continues]
1883
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:37,010
Thank you.
1884
01:50:37,170 --> 01:50:40,880
[Man] As long as people are seeing films,
as long as they're listening to music,
1885
01:50:41,050 --> 01:50:43,550
you'll be listening to Pavement,
and watching
Range Life
.
1886
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:45,890
[Indistinct chatter;
Music continues]
1887
01:50:45,930 --> 01:50:47,560
[Indistinct dialogue]
1888
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:50,980
[Joe]
Maybe we can start doing
some exercises to remove...
1889
01:50:51,020 --> 01:50:54,020
Like an exorcism of Malkmus from me.
1890
01:50:54,940 --> 01:50:56,980
[Delicate guitar music]
1891
01:51:00,740 --> 01:51:02,240
[Vocal exercises]
1892
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:07,200
We had people who knew the band,
people's parents come up to me,
1893
01:51:07,410 --> 01:51:09,500
while we were working and say,
1894
01:51:09,660 --> 01:51:12,250
"I just saw a ghost."
1895
01:51:12,670 --> 01:51:16,380
"I just saw Stephen,
young Stephen."
1896
01:51:16,540 --> 01:51:18,090
But it was me.
1897
01:51:20,220 --> 01:51:22,720
You know, that's cool for me.
1898
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:28,060
[Music continues]
1899
01:51:30,890 --> 01:51:32,770
Oh, buddy!
1900
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:42,150
[Interviewer]
So, I'm going
to ask you a question:
1901
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:43,900
Why did Pavement break up?
1902
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:48,950
Um... Just too much touring,
too many interviews.
1903
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:51,660
[Audience laughs]
1904
01:51:52,830 --> 01:51:54,790
- Too many questions.
- Fair, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1905
01:51:54,830 --> 01:51:56,330
I get it, I hear you.
1906
01:51:56,630 --> 01:51:58,290
That's pretty much it, yeah.
1907
01:51:58,750 --> 01:52:01,670
Or
Stop Breathin'
,
Are you gonna
Stop Breathin'
to me?
1908
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:03,050
[They play half-heartedly]
1909
01:52:03,090 --> 01:52:05,470
[He sings half-heartedly]
1910
01:52:12,060 --> 01:52:17,270
One, two, three, 19 million,
thousand, little birds explode.
1911
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:20,230
In the Pavement style.
Let's just do the fast part.
1912
01:52:20,940 --> 01:52:23,440
That other part sucks.
Just do the fast part.
1913
01:52:23,740 --> 01:52:25,780
[He sings indistinctly]
1914
01:52:36,500 --> 01:52:38,080
Oh, shit.
1915
01:52:38,130 --> 01:52:39,710
[Music and singing stop]
1916
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:41,840
[Music plays -
Ann Don't Cry
]
1917
01:52:45,420 --> 01:52:49,010
♪
The damage has been done
♪
1918
01:52:49,180 --> 01:52:51,180
[Audience jeers]
1919
01:52:51,850 --> 01:52:56,020
♪
I am not having fun anymore
1920
01:52:56,060 --> 01:52:58,560
[Audience jeering]
1921
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:06,360
♪
I am not having fun anymore
1922
01:53:11,410 --> 01:53:14,950
♪
The damage has been done
1923
01:53:17,370 --> 01:53:21,670
♪
I am not having fun anymore
1924
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:27,090
♪
Do what you do when you try
What you get when you see the light
1925
01:53:27,260 --> 01:53:30,340
♪
Come down I'll set my hope
1926
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:33,850
♪
In a wonderful hospital man
♪
1927
01:53:33,970 --> 01:53:37,390
[Stephen]
At that point in those years,
when you played so many shows,
1928
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:41,020
and you're that burned out,
you're just...
1929
01:53:41,690 --> 01:53:46,440
All you really want to do is
get it over with on a good note.
1930
01:53:46,740 --> 01:53:49,110
And thankfully I really thought
that we did that.
1931
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:50,530
[Stephen]
Hi, I'm Steve.
1932
01:53:50,570 --> 01:53:52,580
- [Mark] Do you want to come in?
- Sure.
1933
01:53:52,660 --> 01:53:54,870
- Give me your hand.
- OK.
1934
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:57,120
[Music plays
Ann Don't Cry
]
♪
...up the shots again
1935
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:01,840
♪
But, Ann, don't you cry
1936
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,340
♪
Don't you cry
1937
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:07,720
♪
Don't you cry
1938
01:54:08,010 --> 01:54:09,880
♪
Don't you cry
1939
01:54:11,050 --> 01:54:13,140
♪
Don't you cry
1940
01:54:14,010 --> 01:54:16,520
♪
Don't you cry
1941
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:19,520
♪
Don't you cry
1942
01:54:19,980 --> 01:54:21,480
♪
Don't you cry
♪
1943
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:25,360
- [Song merges with
Major Leagues
]
- ♪ Bring on the major leagues
1944
01:54:27,530 --> 01:54:33,280
♪
Bring on the major leagues
1945
01:54:33,530 --> 01:54:37,290
♪
Bring on the major leagues
♪
1946
01:54:37,540 --> 01:54:42,080
[Scott]
You know we're just a band
who enjoys doing the records and...
1947
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,380
playing shows, it's very simple.
1948
01:54:46,590 --> 01:54:48,920
[Song merges with
Fin
]
1949
01:54:54,050 --> 01:54:56,680
[Indistinct lively chatter;
Crowd cheers in the distance]
1950
01:55:06,150 --> 01:55:10,610
♪
Open call for prison architects
1951
01:55:13,660 --> 01:55:18,950
♪
Send me your blueprints ASAP
1952
01:55:21,540 --> 01:55:26,790
♪
Stack the walls such
That I cannot breathe
1953
01:55:29,340 --> 01:55:33,590
♪
Man is breedin' forever
1954
01:55:35,970 --> 01:55:38,350
♪
Because of the weather
1955
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:42,310
♪
I hope soon to leave from the east
♪
1956
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:46,400
[Song merges with
Silence Kid
]
♪
...myself with my hand
♪
1957
01:55:48,780 --> 01:55:52,280
[All songs blend into textured harmony]
♪
No more absolutes
1958
01:55:52,650 --> 01:55:55,570
♪
No more absolutes
1959
01:55:56,370 --> 01:56:02,750
♪
Stick your penitentiary clothes
Inside the vent
1960
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,790
♪
And run along, Leigh
♪
1961
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:07,880
[Songs end]
1962
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,170
I like them so much more now that
they've sold out and gone on Report.
1963
01:56:11,210 --> 01:56:13,510
[Audience cheer]
1964
01:56:14,300 --> 01:56:16,890
We'll be back with a performance
by the Pavements.
1965
01:56:16,930 --> 01:56:19,180
[They play Gold Soundz] ♪
...to those
gold soundz
1966
01:56:19,260 --> 01:56:21,680
♪
And keep my advent to your self
♪
1967
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:23,940
[Stephen]
Do you think the '90s
is having a moment now?
1968
01:56:23,980 --> 01:56:25,810
- [Interviewer]
Sort of, yeah.
-
Is that what you're saying?
1969
01:56:26,350 --> 01:56:30,070
Um, well, I think that's a good thing
because that benefits me.
1970
01:56:30,110 --> 01:56:31,400
[Interviewer laughs]
1971
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:32,650
So I hope if goes on forever.
1972
01:56:32,690 --> 01:56:35,530
[Music plays -
Harness Your Hopes
]
1973
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:39,200
♪
Show me a word
That rhymes with Pavement...
1974
01:56:39,330 --> 01:56:42,790
- ♪
A word that rhymes with pavement
- ♪
That rhymes with pavement
1975
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:45,000
♪
A word that rhymes with Pavement
1976
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:48,880
♪
And I won't kill your parents
And roast them on a spit
1977
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:52,300
[Stephen] ♪
And don't you try to etch it
Or permanently...
♪
1978
01:56:52,670 --> 01:56:55,680
[Interviewer]
There was new life
breathed into
Harness Your Hopes
.
1979
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,090
[Scott] Put new life into Pavement really.
1980
01:56:58,510 --> 01:57:01,060
Now I know and it made me feel bad.
1981
01:57:01,100 --> 01:57:05,600
Bad but I didn't put it on the album.
Like nobody said, "That's a great song."
1982
01:57:05,770 --> 01:57:07,690
- Or something.
- Oh, I'm sure I did.
1983
01:57:07,730 --> 01:57:09,690
- [High-pitched glitch]
- [Woman]
Welcome back...
1984
01:57:09,730 --> 01:57:12,570
[Overlapped dialogue]
1985
01:57:12,610 --> 01:57:13,820
[High-pitched glitch]
1986
01:57:13,900 --> 01:57:16,650
[beabadoobee sings] ♪
I wish I was
Stephen Malkmus
♪
1987
01:57:16,700 --> 01:57:18,110
[High-pitched glitch]
1988
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,910
Stephen Malkmus really harnessed
the acerbic talk-singing
1989
01:57:20,950 --> 01:57:22,370
of Lou Reed
with post-punk influences.
1990
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:25,330
[Bob] Greta! I'm a huge fan!
1991
01:57:25,370 --> 01:57:28,330
- [Greta] Oh, thank you so much!
- Yeah, yeah. Bob, nice to meet you.
1992
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,800
- Nice to meet you. I remember
Barbie
.
- [Bob] Yeah!
1993
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:34,340
- [Greta] Yeah...
- I know.
1994
01:57:34,510 --> 01:57:36,800
[Stephen] My one daughter heard it called,
1995
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:39,640
- she heard her name, her last name--
- Oh, she did?
1996
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:40,970
- [Stephen] Yeah.
- Oh, my God.
1997
01:57:41,010 --> 01:57:45,350
It's one of my greatest happinesses
that's it's in the movie.
1998
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,810
If you're trying to sound
cool and smart,
1999
01:57:47,850 --> 01:57:50,150
you're gonna talk about Pavement.
2000
01:57:51,020 --> 01:57:52,320
[Stephen] That's right.
2001
01:57:52,610 --> 01:57:56,690
- What therapy the movie was for you!
- I love you, buddy.
2002
01:57:56,740 --> 01:57:58,820
I'm going into my character too.
2003
01:57:58,860 --> 01:58:00,990
- [Scott] I know!
- Smooth things over!
2004
01:58:01,030 --> 01:58:03,490
I'm in the dressing room backstage,
2005
01:58:03,530 --> 01:58:07,460
right before Pavement's
about to play our last New York show.
2006
01:58:09,410 --> 01:58:10,500
Yeah.
2007
01:58:10,540 --> 01:58:12,540
[Music plays -
Spit on a Stranger
]
2008
01:58:17,670 --> 01:58:19,800
[Stephen]
Spit on a Stranger
.
2009
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:23,720
[Faint whirring]
2010
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:25,350
- An important song...
- [Man] Roll it.
2011
01:58:25,390 --> 01:58:26,970
To all of us.
2012
01:58:29,940 --> 01:58:32,650
♪
However you feel
2013
01:58:32,810 --> 01:58:35,360
♪
Whatever it takes
2014
01:58:35,570 --> 01:58:38,280
♪
Whenever it's real
2015
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:41,160
♪
Whatever awaits
2016
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:43,910
♪
Whatever you need
2017
01:58:44,370 --> 01:58:46,700
♪
However so slight
2018
01:58:46,990 --> 01:58:49,410
♪
Whenever it's real
2019
01:58:49,700 --> 01:58:52,250
♪
Whenever it's right
2020
01:58:52,460 --> 01:58:58,050
♪
I've been thinking long and hard
About the things you said to me
2021
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:02,220
♪
Like a bitter stranger
2022
01:59:03,590 --> 01:59:08,810
♪
And now I see the long, the short
The middle and what's in between
2023
01:59:10,140 --> 01:59:13,400
♪
I could spit on a stranger
2024
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:15,650
♪
Pull me out
2025
01:59:15,980 --> 01:59:18,940
♪
You're a bitter stranger
2026
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:21,530
♪
Pour me out
2027
01:59:21,610 --> 01:59:25,240
♪
I see the sunshine in your eyes
♪
2028
01:59:25,530 --> 01:59:27,950
[Bob]
Former art museum security guards.
2029
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:31,960
Pavement have taken the main stage
at the Tibet Freedom Concert.
2030
01:59:32,330 --> 01:59:34,120
[Interviewer]
You're bonding
together again
2031
01:59:34,170 --> 01:59:37,090
on stuff
that you did all those years ago.
2032
01:59:37,300 --> 01:59:40,090
But now you've got
a different outlook on life.
2033
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:45,340
Have you kind of maybe considered
prolonging this honeymoon?
2034
01:59:45,430 --> 01:59:49,180
All our sharing, our children
and all the things we share now.
2035
01:59:49,350 --> 01:59:52,350
We would just say,
"Why don't we also share the band?"
2036
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:55,980
We're wrinkled and gray and stuff
2037
01:59:56,020 --> 02:00:02,740
but everyone in the band is so grateful
and psyched to be there this time because
2038
02:00:03,150 --> 02:00:06,530
you just remember
all the good stuff and...
2039
02:00:07,070 --> 02:00:09,040
It means a lot to all of us.
2040
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:13,290
[Music plays -
Major Leagues
] ♪ Bring on
The major leagues
2041
02:00:14,540 --> 02:00:18,670
♪
Bring on the major leagues
2042
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:24,300
♪
Bring on the major leagues
2043
02:00:25,220 --> 02:00:29,060
♪
Bring on the major leagues
2044
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:33,430
♪
They'll wind you down sometime
Kids like wine
2045
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:41,070
♪
Magic Christians chew my rind
'Cause bad girls are always bad girls
♪
2046
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:44,820
[Music becomes rousing, nostalgic]
2047
02:00:44,860 --> 02:00:47,070
[Muffled cheering]
2048
02:00:53,700 --> 02:00:56,210
[Music plays -
Here
] ♪ I was dressed
For success
♪
2049
02:00:56,250 --> 02:00:58,670
[Music plays -
Major Leagues
] ♪ Bring on
The Major Leagues
♪
2050
02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:01,540
[
Here
resumes] ♪ But success
It never comes
♪
2051
02:01:01,630 --> 02:01:04,550
[
Major Leagues
resumes] ♪ Bring on
The major leagues
♪
2052
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:09,550
[
Here
, Major Leagues and You're Killing Me
merge into layered, textured harmony]
2053
02:01:14,980 --> 02:01:19,310
[Different Pavement songs
blend into a rich, stirring mix]
2054
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,750
- [Music continues]
- That's it, that's the finale! Woo!
2055
02:02:23,790 --> 02:02:25,550
[Audience cheers]
2056
02:02:25,590 --> 02:02:28,010
[Music continues]
2057
02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:35,010
[Music subsides]
2058
02:02:38,930 --> 02:02:41,190
[Silence]
2059
02:02:43,690 --> 02:02:46,610
[Woman, a cappella] ♪
The damage
Has been done
♪
2060
02:02:46,860 --> 02:02:51,110
[Woman 2] ♪
And I'm not having fun
Anymore
♪
2061
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,200
[Man] ♪
To those above
2062
02:02:53,370 --> 02:02:56,200
♪
Take us out, throw us down
2063
02:02:56,620 --> 02:02:58,200
♪
Shove us out
2064
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:02,500
♪
Don't you cry, don't you cry
2065
02:03:04,130 --> 02:03:08,010
♪
Come join us in a prayer
♪
2066
02:03:09,050 --> 02:03:13,220
[Other voices join in harmony] ♪
We'll be
Waiting, waiting where
♪
2067
02:03:14,010 --> 02:03:15,010
Hell, yeah.
2068
02:03:15,050 --> 02:03:19,100
[Singing resumes] ♪
Everything's
Ending here
♪
2069
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:21,850
All I have to say about this,
I would never release this,
2070
02:03:21,890 --> 02:03:25,110
'cause we're on tour in Europe
and I haven't had a chance to cut my hair.
2071
02:03:25,150 --> 02:03:27,820
So as far as I'm concerned,
I look like an idiot.
2072
02:03:27,900 --> 02:03:30,690
This is where he got his idea
for cuttin' his hair?
2073
02:03:31,530 --> 02:03:34,120
I love that hairstyle, it's funny.
You look like a mushroom man.
2074
02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:35,450
I look stupid.
2075
02:03:35,660 --> 02:03:37,030
You look like a mushroom head.
2076
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:38,370
Yeah.
2077
02:03:38,580 --> 02:03:40,450
- How do you look, Mark?
- [Mark] I think it's...
2078
02:03:40,500 --> 02:03:42,660
I haven't seen myself
and I probably won't, either.
2079
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:49,630
I disagree with Stephen, I think that
it's an important document of our past.
2080
02:03:50,130 --> 02:03:52,840
[Music plays -
Western Homes
]
2081
02:03:56,680 --> 02:04:00,060
♪
Your western homes are locked forever
2082
02:04:00,180 --> 02:04:03,350
♪
The new frontier is not that near
2083
02:04:03,390 --> 02:04:06,730
♪
Magnetic screens that fold in backward
2084
02:04:06,860 --> 02:04:11,860
♪
Will only bring you years of fear
♪
2085
02:04:15,780 --> 02:04:18,740
- [Music subsides]
- I don't have any games on there anymore.
2086
02:04:20,410 --> 02:04:22,540
[Indistinct chatter]
2087
02:04:22,660 --> 02:04:24,710
[Stephen] I made a little mistake.
2088
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,330
I made a little mistake, guys.
2089
02:04:29,250 --> 02:04:31,630
Pueblo
and
Heckler Spray, Linden
2090
02:04:32,340 --> 02:04:33,970
Debris Slide
2091
02:04:34,090 --> 02:04:36,260
No.
Heckler Spray
...
2092
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,800
- [Man]
Pueblo...
-
Pueblo
, Heckler Spray, Linden,
2093
02:04:39,850 --> 02:04:41,600
Embassy Road
,
Debris Slide.
2094
02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:46,810
[Bob] Very minor changes.
The order has changed.
2095
02:04:46,900 --> 02:04:49,060
After
Pueblo
...
2096
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:54,440
He put
Heckler Spray
slash Linden...
2097
02:04:57,570 --> 02:04:59,200
Roxy changed it around.
2098
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:01,330
Roxy wants to hear
Cut Your Hair
, so...
2099
02:05:01,490 --> 02:05:05,120
And Steve agreed, so we got rid of
Serpentine Pad
and...
2100
02:05:07,670 --> 02:05:10,500
[Music plays -
Cut Your Hair
]
2101
02:05:15,010 --> 02:05:18,430
♪
Advertising looks and chops a must
2102
02:05:18,590 --> 02:05:20,640
♪
No big hair!
2103
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:24,640
♪
Songs mean a lot
When songs are bought
2104
02:05:25,270 --> 02:05:26,940
♪
So are you
2105
02:05:27,100 --> 02:05:30,980
♪
Face right down To the practice room
♪
2106
02:05:31,020 --> 02:05:33,400
[Cheers and applause]
2107
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:37,150
[He whistles]
2108
02:05:38,990 --> 02:05:42,080
Listen up. As one of the divisions
on the Pavement group,
2109
02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:44,620
and there is a parent in residence.
2110
02:05:45,500 --> 02:05:47,960
- Which I am.
- [Stephen] Residence? Oh, no!
2111
02:05:50,120 --> 02:05:52,800
We are here to introduce... Pavement.
2112
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:55,380
[Audience cheers]
2113
02:06:01,220 --> 02:06:03,390
Stephen, the singer.
2114
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:07,180
[They play -
Grave Architecture
]
2115
02:06:09,020 --> 02:06:14,440
♪
Grave architecture
2116
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:20,780
♪
Walk the marble malls
2117
02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:24,830
♪
The monuments to those who fall
♪
2118
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:29,460
I'm going to encourage you
to listen to this song,
2119
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:32,080
Otherwise, go to the fucking bathroom.
2120
02:06:32,210 --> 02:06:34,840
Let's just stick to the list,
I didn't make it. Let's do it.
2121
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:36,590
Two, three...
2122
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,510
[They play -
Debris Slide
]
2123
02:06:48,730 --> 02:06:51,140
It's gonna be in the credits
as the movie goes down,
2124
02:06:51,190 --> 02:06:53,270
like you have to watch
another 15 minutes...
2125
02:06:53,310 --> 02:06:56,280
- People walk out.
- What huge assholes these guys are.
2126
02:06:57,280 --> 02:07:02,530
Yes, we were trying so hard to find
an asshole moment, we finally found it.
2127
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:08,080
[They play
Summer Babe
] ♪ You're my
Summer babe
2128
02:07:10,620 --> 02:07:13,170
♪
Summer babe
2129
02:07:15,380 --> 02:07:18,050
♪
Summer babe
2130
02:07:20,340 --> 02:07:23,260
♪
Summer babe
♪
2131
02:07:24,050 --> 02:07:26,260
[Song ends]
2132
02:07:26,300 --> 02:07:28,020
[Audience cheers]
2133
02:07:28,060 --> 02:07:30,680
- Thank you.
- Thank you all.
2134
02:07:30,730 --> 02:07:33,150
[Cheering continues]
2135
02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:43,610
[Music plays -
Fillmore Jive
] ♪ I need
To sleep
2136
02:07:46,410 --> 02:07:50,120
♪
I need to sleep
2137
02:07:52,500 --> 02:07:55,670
♪
I need to sleep
♪
2138
02:07:58,210 --> 02:08:00,510
[Song fades to silence]
2139
02:08:00,550 --> 02:08:02,760
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