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[pensive music plays]

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[tense music playing]

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[tense music continues]

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[heart thumping]

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[music intensifies and stops]

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[beeps]

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So I want to say,
at first, I had to learn to survive,

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to be able
to even stay in the water with them.

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Um, and where most people,
if they were charged by a shark,

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they would have, like,
gotten the fuck out of the water…

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[laughs nervously]

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Clip this on the back.

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…because I stayed in the water
after being rushed by a shark, right?

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I was able to actually observe
natural behavior,

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and that's when I started to learn

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shark language.

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[frantic music playing]

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[man 1] Everybody knows
who Ocean Ramsey is.

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[man 2, man 3] Ocean Ramsey.

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Ocean Ramsey.

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Fearless. Daredevil.

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[man 4] She's on the news.
It's going around the world.

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-Her name's Ocean?
-Her name is Ocean.

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[man 1] But nobody knows about her story.

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[Ocean] I wanna explore.

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I wanna push the limits.

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It's like I'm made to do this.

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[music builds]

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[Ocean] The emotions
and the connection that I feel,

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it's overwhelming.

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This is what I'm alive for.

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I'm not a crazy person.

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I'm hyperaware of what they're capable of.

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It's just that sharks are
the calling that I have.

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[man] This is breaking barriers.
Something could go wrong.

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[reporter] Believed to be
the largest great white shark on record

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anywhere in the world.

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[woman] She gets in the water
and asks the question,

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"Why should I be afraid?"

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["Waikiki Chickadee" by George
“Tautu” Archer and His Pagans plays]

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♪ I'd like to be ♪

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♪ I'd like to be ♪

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♪ With you ♪

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♪ My little chickadee ♪

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♪ Just with you ♪

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♪ 'Neath the skies of blue ♪

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♪ Holding hands ♪

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[Ocean] Growing up in Hawaii

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really shaped me as a person.

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[pensive music playing]

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Just looking out at the ocean
and the different colors

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and feeling the power in the waves.

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I was actually kind of a shy kid
growing up.

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Very quiet. Very quiet.

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I was definitely much more drawn

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to just interacting with animals
out in nature

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rather than socializing
with other humans, truthfully.

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I was like a little wild child.

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[music continues]

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Being out in nature…

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makes me feel connected
to something higher

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and greater than myself.

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The first time
that I saw a shark with my own eyes,

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I think I was maybe
seven or eight years old.

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[intriguing music playing]

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And it centers right below me.

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And so at that moment, I have that choice.

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Do I follow it,

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or is this supposed to be something
that I'm afraid of?

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I swam after it for a little bit.

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That's such a cool experience to have
and to have that natural fascination.

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And that fascination has never left me.

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[alluring music playing]

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When I'm around them, I feel most alive.

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And it's not an adrenaline rush.
It's a feeling of connection,

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where I feel the most myself.

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There's something so magnetic for me
about sharks.

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And I feel like that's because
that's what my life was meant for.

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It's my point and purpose.

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[music fades]

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[man] Photography was a passion
I developed through surfing.

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In the early stages of my life,

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I kind of thought that
I would become a surf photographer.

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Sadly, along the way,

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I realized that if I wanted to make it
as a surf photographer,

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I would have to give up
the best days of surfing

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in order to make money
photographing it, right?

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So I was like, "Ooh!"
I didn't really anticipate that.

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[grunts softly]

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But, as a surfer growing up in Hawaii,
I was petrified of sharks, right?

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I think I was like seven, eight.

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And there was a lot of shark attacks.

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[reporter 1] Coming up, we'll tell you
about O'ahu's latest attack.

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[man] Shark came up from underneath it.

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The shark hit him twice, got his arm.

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You don't really feel that comfortable
out surfing.

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[somber music playing]

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[Juan] That fear spread
through the whole community

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and through my whole childhood.

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[reporter 2] Under pressure
from a nervous tourist industry,

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the state of Hawaii
launched a shark task force

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to deal with the attacks.

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The controversial decision was made
to start killing sharks.

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[Juan] And I was like,
"The only good shark is a dead shark."

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[somber music continues]

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I was down there, Hale'iwa Harbor.

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They had the tiger sharks
sprawled out on the launch ramps.

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Like 20 or 30,
and cheering the fishermen on.

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I was just a scared little kid.

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Didn't really know any better.

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[people clamoring]

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It's sad that that was my background

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up until I actually
got to go dive with one,

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and it was the opposite
of what I thought it would be.

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[music fades]

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A buddy of mine,
we kind of started doing dive charters…

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and trying to teach people
more about sharks.

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We kind of helped start
the whole cage tourism industry out here,

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which was a really hard thing to do
back in the day,

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because there was still so much fear
here in the community.

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Friends that wouldn't even talk to me now
because I like sharks.

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They're like, "You're bringing
the monsters to our hometown."

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I'm like, "They're not monsters.
And they were here before us."

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"We need to learn how to coexist", right?

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So that… that was what,
you know, really kind of, um,

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really kind of set the stage
for me meeting Ocean.

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2006 is when I first met her.

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She was teaching scuba.

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I was a captain on a shark boat.

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[intriguing music playing]

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The first day, I remember she was like,
"If you want to get certified under me,

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you have to come with me
and you have to see sharks in the wild."

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"'Cause I want you to know
how sharks really are."

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And, um, I was instantly like,
"Oh my God, she's amazing." Right?

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[Ocean] So at the time when we met,

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I was getting out
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and I really wanted to be single.

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I was like, "Oh, she's not into me.
She's being super quiet.

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"She doesn't wanna talk to me.
She's not into me."

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[Ocean] I just…
I need to focus on the sharks.

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Sharks are the calling that I have.

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Here in Hawaii, we have
over 30 different species of shark.

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Most of them will swim away.

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[ominous music playing]

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But tiger sharks,
they definitely feel different.

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They're darker on the top
with these beautiful stripes.

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And they're gonna max out
usually around 18 feet in length.

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[tense music playing]

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They're so curious
and cognitive and aware.

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They can essentially eat almost anything.

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[bird cawing]

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They can bite through turtle shell
and bone.

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[reporter] The body
of a 60-year-old woman…

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She didn't see the shark coming.

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And they're capable
of short bursts of incredible speed.

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[man shouts] Tiger shark!

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[Ocean] People are so afraid of them.

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[tense music playing]

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And that fear comes
from a lack of understanding.

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[enigmatic music plays]

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[woman] Sharks have been around
at least 400 million years.

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[reporter] Sylvia is one
of the ocean's greatest defenders.

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This dedication has made her
a kind of underwater royalty,

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nicknamed Her Deepness.

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Sure we can't do this
underwater? [chuckles]

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They're a critical part
of what makes the ocean function.

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My name is Kim Holland.

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I'm a research professor at the Hawai'i
Institute of Marine Biology,

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and I founded the shark research group
here 40 years ago.

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Sharks have evolved
in this top predator role.

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If you take out the sharks,

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then you've put a ripple effect
down through the rest of the food chain.

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We need the ocean.
We need a healthy living ocean.

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We need all the pieces to be working

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as they have worked
long before there even were humans.

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If we disturb that ecosystem,

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even if we don't know exactly
what our impacts are, it can't be good.

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One of the worst enemies of sharks
is ignorance.

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Because people, they have
that part of the story.

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[man] We don't have the counterbalance.

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We have no understanding
of what their life is like.

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We have no understanding of the struggles
that they have to go through

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in their daily life.

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That would change the story.

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[indistinct background chatter]

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[Ocean] With Juan,
what really caught my attention

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was how he was talking about sharks.

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I could hear the passion
that he had for them.

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And up until that point,

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I had never met another person

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that was saying those things.

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It caught my heart.

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[Juan] Yeah, I'm ready.

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[Ocean] And then we were just going diving
together every single day.

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[Juan] She's like
this beautiful wild animal…

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that's trying to live life as a human.

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Just gotta try and keep up.

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[Ocean] It was cool with Juan.

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It was like,
"We could do this all day, every day."

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And he was, like,
as obsessed as I was, I think.

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[joyful music playing]

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[Juan] Back then, she was like,
"I wanna see sharks."

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All the time.

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That became like an obsession almost.

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[music fades]

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[Ocean] But here in Hawaii,

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tiger sharks are the one
that humans are most concerned with,

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given how powerful that they are,
how quickly they could take life.

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[dramatic music plays]

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I don't think people realize

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how much time was put
into identifying the areas

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where we can guarantee to see them.

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Literally thousands of drift dives…

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from season to season to season,

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marking on the GPS
every time we would see a shark…

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and what species,

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how many.

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[soft music playing]

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After finding progressively
more and more sharks…

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eventually, we found
pretty much the damn near perfect site.

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The strong convergent currents are

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probably the biggest driver
of why the sharks are there.

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The current is converging
at that specific point

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because of the bottom contour
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as well as the contour of the land.

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People thought that you needed a cage
because sharks were dangerous.

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But the changemakers are the ones that
try something a little different, right?

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[pensive music playing]

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I wanna prove to the world
that they're not monsters.

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That is what I wanna prove.

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[breathing shakily]

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[Juan] I'll be honest,

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I had nerves. I wasn't, like,
you know, expressing them,

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even though I was
a little uncomfortable at times, for sure.

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But Ocean is definitely, you know,
alpha position in our relationship.

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And I have no problem with that.

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She had the lead on it, right?

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I'm just gonna film.

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[suspenseful music plays]

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[Ocean] They've got thicker skin,
sharper teeth and they can outswim me.

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How do I not get caught off guard?

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Everything goes so fast.

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I'm literally, at that moment,
in front of a shark's mouth.

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And in my mind, it's just like,
"You gotta survive."

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I'm like, "Okay, let's push down."

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[music continues]

249
00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:04,416
[Juan] Even though it looked
out of control to me,

250
00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,252
she always had this control
over the situation.

251
00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:17,846
[Ocean] I found that the longer
I stayed down there,

252
00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:21,934
the more that they would treat me
sort of like another shark.

253
00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:28,107
But every couple of minutes,
I'd pop up to breathe.

254
00:18:34,905 --> 00:18:37,241
I decided to increase my breath hold

255
00:18:38,659 --> 00:18:40,911
in order to spend more time with them.

256
00:18:41,662 --> 00:18:43,664
[gentle music plays]

257
00:18:47,459 --> 00:18:50,796
[Ocean] Free diving,
if you're spending time with sharks,

258
00:18:50,879 --> 00:18:52,005
it's so much better,

259
00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:56,969
because you're much more
like another marine animal

260
00:18:57,845 --> 00:18:58,804
and more agile.

261
00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:06,937
I've always had
a natural edge for free diving.

262
00:19:08,272 --> 00:19:10,524
But I wanted to better myself.

263
00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:19,158
When the urges to breathe come,

264
00:19:19,783 --> 00:19:22,870
and your initial thought is,
"Oh my gosh, I have to breathe,"

265
00:19:23,871 --> 00:19:26,290
you can train out of that
by just being like,

266
00:19:26,373 --> 00:19:30,043
"No. I realize, actually, like,
my body can go longer.

267
00:19:38,969 --> 00:19:40,971
[slow breathing]

268
00:19:42,973 --> 00:19:47,019
And it literally changed the way
that my brain interprets pain.

269
00:19:47,102 --> 00:19:49,104
[rousing music playing]

270
00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,829
I was constantly pushing myself.

271
00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:13,837
And it was the sharks
that drove me to do that.

272
00:20:20,677 --> 00:20:22,387
[exhaling]

273
00:20:23,013 --> 00:20:23,972
[mumbles]

274
00:20:25,307 --> 00:20:28,227
Now I can hold my breath
for over six and a half minutes.

275
00:20:34,816 --> 00:20:39,238
I would then get to watch them
interacting with one another,

276
00:20:39,321 --> 00:20:43,784
and that was when I got to see
their language and their communication.

277
00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:45,869
[intriguing music playing]

278
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:51,291
There was something that I read
when I was younger.

279
00:20:54,461 --> 00:20:57,214
Somebody had studied bees in a beehive

280
00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:04,304
and realized that they do a little dance
to communicate to one another.

281
00:21:07,057 --> 00:21:09,601
I think that was
what branched out in my mind.

282
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,027
Sharks don't just swim at random.

283
00:21:25,492 --> 00:21:27,911
There's actually a lot of patterns.

284
00:21:27,995 --> 00:21:29,997
[electronic whirring]

285
00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:40,590
[electronic whirring]

286
00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:43,260
[Ocean] It was the patterns
of social hierarchy.

287
00:21:46,221 --> 00:21:47,723
Following or piggybacking.

288
00:21:50,726 --> 00:21:52,269
Interception or blocking.

289
00:21:56,315 --> 00:22:00,027
One of the most obvious ones to me
was parallel swimming.

290
00:22:02,946 --> 00:22:04,781
Two sharks line up side by side,

291
00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:07,326
sizing each other up.

292
00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:15,459
And it's generally the larger shark
that's gonna take that higher position.

293
00:22:20,589 --> 00:22:23,300
Or occasionally,
I would see them actually turn over

294
00:22:23,383 --> 00:22:25,761
at that individual
that's sizing up with them.

295
00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:28,930
Like, "Hey, don't do that."

296
00:22:46,615 --> 00:22:48,867
Dropping its pectoral fins down.

297
00:22:50,619 --> 00:22:52,704
This is a little bit of a threat display.

298
00:22:57,626 --> 00:23:01,046
I realized that if I'm tense
or nervous or stressed,

299
00:23:01,713 --> 00:23:05,384
whatever those emotions are,
they are reflected in your body,

300
00:23:06,426 --> 00:23:08,345
in small muscle movements.

301
00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:13,141
The sharks are so highly evolved
that they pick up on it.

302
00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:14,976
[stirring music playing]

303
00:23:16,186 --> 00:23:18,188
It feels like they're reading your mind.

304
00:23:21,358 --> 00:23:24,736
If you can make your intentions
very clear in your mind,

305
00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:27,781
your muscles in your body
will sort of reflect that.

306
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:29,866
[tense music playing]

307
00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:33,578
And it makes you look at the world
like a shark.

308
00:23:42,212 --> 00:23:45,674
Opening this door,
it really opened my eyes.

309
00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,759
[music softens]

310
00:23:58,103 --> 00:24:00,647
It wasn't until a little while later

311
00:24:00,730 --> 00:24:05,068
I became more accustomed
to recognizing certain individuals.

312
00:24:16,204 --> 00:24:18,999
I didn't even realize like,
you know, "It's Nikki," yet.

313
00:24:19,082 --> 00:24:21,751
You know, we're not on
a "first-name basis" yet,

314
00:24:21,835 --> 00:24:23,044
but I recognize her.

315
00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:24,546
[pensive music playing]

316
00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:27,549
I remember some of the scars that she had.

317
00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:33,013
Like, "Do you remember me?"

318
00:24:34,639 --> 00:24:35,515
"Is that you?"

319
00:24:38,393 --> 00:24:41,146
Kind of like waving at a friend,
like, "Hey."

320
00:24:45,942 --> 00:24:50,530
Sharks have a nictitating membrane,
which is actually their eyelid.

321
00:24:50,614 --> 00:24:53,408
And it folds up instead of down.

322
00:24:54,534 --> 00:24:56,453
They use it for protection.

323
00:24:59,498 --> 00:25:01,416
I love seeing them fight it.

324
00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:05,003
And, like, as they get close,
they wanna keep it open.

325
00:25:05,086 --> 00:25:06,379
And they wanna look.

326
00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:17,724
[Ocean] Nikki would come up
and then open her eyes

327
00:25:18,850 --> 00:25:20,352
and look at me.

328
00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:25,565
"Yeah, I see you." You know what I mean?

329
00:25:31,112 --> 00:25:35,158
When the eye is lifted,
it just shows the level of trust.

330
00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:39,371
[Ocean] What if I just put my hand out?

331
00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:43,458
And I'm just gonna adapt
to whatever she's giving me.

332
00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,336
And then Nikki responds to that.

333
00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:53,635
[whooshing]

334
00:25:58,181 --> 00:26:00,850
There's something going on here
that I can't explain.

335
00:26:00,934 --> 00:26:02,644
Like, they are communicating.

336
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:10,485
In that moment of contact,
there is so much said.

337
00:26:12,988 --> 00:26:14,614
Sharks have this sensory system

338
00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:18,326
where they can feel the electrical output
from living organisms.

339
00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:22,122
So she's literally feeling who I am

340
00:26:22,205 --> 00:26:25,083
on a level that we don't sense the world.

341
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:26,543
[heart beating]

342
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,721
Not everything can be quantified.

343
00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:43,018
It doesn't mean that it's not happening.

344
00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:56,406
[Juan] So at that point, I remember
I was getting really good images

345
00:26:56,489 --> 00:26:58,408
and, you know, trying to get out there

346
00:27:00,035 --> 00:27:01,661
and get the message across.

347
00:27:04,581 --> 00:27:07,250
But still, the conversation was,
"Monster, monster."

348
00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:09,461
[ominous music playing]

349
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,549
But we just gotta change the music,
change the way we look at sharks.

350
00:27:16,217 --> 00:27:17,218
Flip the perception.

351
00:27:19,346 --> 00:27:21,348
[enigmatic music plays]

352
00:27:34,736 --> 00:27:36,946
[Juan] When I had Ocean in the photos,

353
00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:40,450
it was, like, that key component
where they're like,

354
00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:41,993
"Why isn't she getting eaten?"

355
00:27:42,702 --> 00:27:44,704
[enigmatic music continues]

356
00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:52,295
[Juan] From that moment that I realized

357
00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:55,632
that human component of interacting
with sharks is the difference,

358
00:27:55,715 --> 00:27:58,843
that people can connect with
and really see sharks differently.

359
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:02,681
[Ocean] "Oh my gosh,
maybe they're not like Jaws."

360
00:28:07,143 --> 00:28:11,731
[Juan] Since that moment, I've just filmed
every interaction that I possibly can.

361
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:17,737
That was what I needed to do
every single day.

362
00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:25,286
-[Ocean] Putting yourself out there…
-[camera clicking]

363
00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:28,164
…is also just putting yourself out there
for criticism.

364
00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:37,757
I'm very nervous
about this whole Ocean Ramsey thing.

365
00:28:37,841 --> 00:28:39,217
In Hawaiian practice,

366
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,470
you don't force yourself
onto something else.

367
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,305
You allow something to come to you.

368
00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:47,308
She's notorious for it.

369
00:28:48,101 --> 00:28:51,563
Everyone in the shark industry knows
who she is and what she does.

370
00:28:51,646 --> 00:28:53,982
[Kamu] More for the Gram
and more for the shot.

371
00:28:54,524 --> 00:28:57,485
People see that, they wanna be
part of it, it draws them in.

372
00:28:58,069 --> 00:28:59,863
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it.

373
00:28:59,946 --> 00:29:01,656
People don't listen to us anyway…

374
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,117
What are we even here for?
To pick up the pieces.

375
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,370
To do this and put it out to masses
and let people see that,

376
00:29:08,163 --> 00:29:09,664
it sends the wrong message.

377
00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:11,958
'Cause everybody thinks they can do it.

378
00:29:12,041 --> 00:29:17,130
If a shark makes that connection with you,
that's, I think, a different story.

379
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:22,135
I want to know you. I want to feel you.
I want to understand.

380
00:29:22,218 --> 00:29:26,389
Whatever reason you feel the need
to have your hand on this animal,

381
00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:29,768
you better understand what's going on
and what you're getting yourself into.

382
00:29:30,643 --> 00:29:34,898
[Brian] You watch Ocean and Juan,
they understand the shark.

383
00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,401
You won't find many people like that.

384
00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:42,363
Understand in their mind and their heart
and being in sync.

385
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:44,783
Not only with the shark but in the ocean.

386
00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:49,496
To see this young woman
at peace with these big animals

387
00:29:49,579 --> 00:29:54,959
causes us to see through her eyes,
to see them differently.

388
00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:59,506
I think that that's a very good way
to change the human perceptions.

389
00:29:59,589 --> 00:30:04,636
What they are trying to show is that
we don't have to be afraid of the animals.

390
00:30:04,719 --> 00:30:09,432
That's what they are really trying
to make people understand.

391
00:30:09,516 --> 00:30:11,226
She gets in the water and…

392
00:30:12,727 --> 00:30:16,773
and asks the question,
"Why should I be afraid?"

393
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,317
Most of the time,
you're gonna get away with it,

394
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,236
but some of the time, you're not.

395
00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:33,832
[Ocean] It's a weird line that we run
that's like, how do you find that balance

396
00:30:33,915 --> 00:30:37,669
between, you know, humanizing
and showing their personality

397
00:30:37,752 --> 00:30:40,630
and how incredible they are
and that they're not monsters?

398
00:30:40,713 --> 00:30:44,425
But then they're apex predators,
not puppies.

399
00:30:48,304 --> 00:30:49,722
And if it doesn't go well,

400
00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:52,684
it's on us. We're offshore.

401
00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:54,561
It's not like anyone needs to know.

402
00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:57,230
We don't have kids.

403
00:30:57,730 --> 00:31:01,651
We don't really have anything that
we're risking except for our own lives.

404
00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:07,198
I'm good to go anytime. Like, what is it?

405
00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:11,327
It's not the years in your life.
It's the life in your years.

406
00:31:11,411 --> 00:31:13,621
And I'm-- Phew, wow, Shark.

407
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:16,499
-[Juan] Sharkey can clear the room!
-You know how to clear a room.

408
00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:20,795
[Juan] He's like, "Oh yeah. Remember me?
Remember."

409
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:22,338
[laughs]

410
00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:24,716
[Ocean] I hope he doesn't start
to pick up on this,

411
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,886
that if he starts to do that,
I'll roll the window down.

412
00:31:27,969 --> 00:31:29,095
[Juan chuckles]

413
00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:33,141
-[Ocean] Fashionably on Aloha Time.
-[exclaiming]

414
00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:34,726
-[cheering]
-Yeah, guys!

415
00:31:34,809 --> 00:31:36,269
Sorry we're late!

416
00:31:36,352 --> 00:31:37,395
-[Juan grunts]
-[Ocean] Oh.

417
00:31:37,478 --> 00:31:40,940
Yeah. You're so big, every time!

418
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:43,902
[Ocean] Look what I brought you.
They're shark tattoos.

419
00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:45,028
-Thank you!
-Yeah!

420
00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:48,239
So you can have a tattoo like your dad.

421
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:54,787
So I was thinking we could make
these cute little shark bracelets.

422
00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:58,249
Wait, how did the shark lose its teeth?

423
00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:01,419
So, sharks are so lucky.
They never have to go to the dentist.

424
00:32:01,502 --> 00:32:03,254
[man] I met Ocean and Juan,

425
00:32:03,338 --> 00:32:05,840
and I had just done this
little baby project with them.

426
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:09,928
We went on one dive,
and I think I contacted them immediately.

427
00:32:10,011 --> 00:32:13,014
And I was like,
"Hey, I wanna do this again."

428
00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:15,099
[tense music plays]

429
00:32:17,852 --> 00:32:21,230
When you are swimming with a big shark,

430
00:32:23,566 --> 00:32:26,527
there is an energy
and there is a presence to it

431
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:28,488
that's really difficult to describe.

432
00:32:36,037 --> 00:32:39,374
You just realize
that you're swimming with something

433
00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:43,002
that's been around in some form or another
since before trees.

434
00:32:47,048 --> 00:32:49,133
You're swimming with a dinosaur.

435
00:32:49,217 --> 00:32:51,219
[majestic music playing]

436
00:33:00,269 --> 00:33:03,856
Ocean and Juan,
they're perfectly conditioned and skilled

437
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,316
to do what they're doing.

438
00:33:07,485 --> 00:33:08,444
They live it.

439
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,742
And I think it's much more dangerous

440
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:17,161
for a person
who wouldn't be able to live it.

441
00:33:18,037 --> 00:33:19,247
[muffled speech]

442
00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:25,878
[music intensifies]

443
00:33:27,338 --> 00:33:31,259
Phew, I would honestly say
I'm still scared every time.

444
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,344
[pensive music playing]

445
00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:37,598
[Ocean] It's really important to be calm

446
00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:41,394
and to be a competent predator
in their presence.

447
00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:45,481
There's kind of no room for weakness
with them.

448
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:52,780
But as I encounter a shark,
I don't know what their history is.

449
00:33:54,657 --> 00:33:57,243
I don't know
what their history is with humans.

450
00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:02,123
That is going to be a factor
into the way that they interact with me.

451
00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:06,461
[music fades]

452
00:34:06,544 --> 00:34:10,173
Oh gosh. There's like--
Okay. So Kalihi, Kalihi, Kalihi…

453
00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:13,342
[muffled] Hi, Kalihi!

454
00:34:14,177 --> 00:34:16,721
Kalihi means "the edge" in Hawaiian.

455
00:34:16,804 --> 00:34:18,389
[intense music playing]

456
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,437
She came in as a juvenile,
very powerful juvenile.

457
00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,817
Watching her rush up to anything.

458
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,986
Bump. Bite.

459
00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:36,324
Wow.

460
00:34:36,407 --> 00:34:39,327
She's so much more intense
than the others.

461
00:34:43,706 --> 00:34:44,791
She's very smart.

462
00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:52,840
Kalihi threw something
that I hadn't seen before.

463
00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,761
Coming up
and like chomping on the surface…

464
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,227
to create bubbles.

465
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:07,605
So it'd be like blind on the surface.

466
00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:13,152
She throws so many curveballs.

467
00:35:15,571 --> 00:35:19,367
The way that she would try
and, like, turn her body around,

468
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:24,789
it was almost like she had learned
my methods.

469
00:35:24,872 --> 00:35:26,541
[tense music playing]

470
00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:27,708
I don't know how.

471
00:35:30,336 --> 00:35:32,463
[Juan] I knew that she knew
what she was doing.

472
00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:34,507
And I wasn't gonna second guess her.

473
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:37,051
I was never gonna give her
any seed of doubt.

474
00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:39,804
[Ocean] It's not a video game.

475
00:35:42,849 --> 00:35:43,891
There's no pause.

476
00:35:53,442 --> 00:35:55,153
[Juan] She was challenging Ocean.

477
00:35:55,236 --> 00:35:57,238
[sinister music playing]

478
00:36:05,621 --> 00:36:09,041
Accept the risks.
Acknowledge them and move on.

479
00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:20,094
[music fades]

480
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:23,055
[Ocean] All that time in the water,
the sharks were teaching me.

481
00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:25,975
They were shaping my movements
in the water

482
00:36:26,058 --> 00:36:28,186
the way that they shape other animals.

483
00:36:28,811 --> 00:36:30,813
[ethereal music playing]

484
00:36:38,446 --> 00:36:42,617
[Ocean] They would approach me
from different angles.

485
00:36:56,631 --> 00:37:00,509
They would show me that they like to use
their countershading from below.

486
00:37:00,593 --> 00:37:02,595
[ethereal music continues]

487
00:37:11,062 --> 00:37:13,898
[Ocean] Those experiences helped me learn
to redirect.

488
00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:16,275
Pushing down.

489
00:37:18,361 --> 00:37:19,654
Locking at the elbow.

490
00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:23,908
[gentle string music playing]

491
00:37:31,207 --> 00:37:33,334
[Juan] It's almost like a beautiful dance.

492
00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:37,880
If she wanted the sharks to come closer,
she would put her head down,

493
00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:40,091
tuck into a ball.

494
00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:48,140
If you need more space, all you have to do
is go vertical, posture up.

495
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:52,687
Be a little bit more direct
with that eye contact.

496
00:37:56,357 --> 00:38:00,069
So let them know, "Hey,
I'm an equal predator, and I'm aware."

497
00:38:04,156 --> 00:38:06,617
When you need to hold your ground,
you hold your ground.

498
00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:10,162
[string music continues]

499
00:38:14,875 --> 00:38:18,796
[Juan] She's so aware, just, like,
so knowledgeable about the animals.

500
00:38:26,846 --> 00:38:31,058
For me, behind the camera,
sometimes I get a little complacent.

501
00:38:33,477 --> 00:38:36,981
[Ocean] When you're looking through
a lens, it's sort of tunnel vision.

502
00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:41,819
I have to look out for him.

503
00:38:41,902 --> 00:38:43,904
[gentle music playing]

504
00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:00,004
[Juan] She's taught me so much.

505
00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:04,050
All the behaviors.

506
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:07,803
And then, this is how
you do it strategically to make it safe.

507
00:39:12,516 --> 00:39:16,187
Ocean's really made it more of a…
kind of, more of a science.

508
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,235
[music fades]

509
00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:24,445
[inhales deeply]

510
00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:39,460
If you're on a longboard,
you're less likely to get approached.

511
00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:42,630
If you're swimming with someone,
you're less likely to get approached.

512
00:39:42,713 --> 00:39:47,510
Minimizing splashing, minimizing anything
that can draw attention to yourself.

513
00:39:47,593 --> 00:39:48,844
I'm just gonna take a pause…

514
00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:51,972
Keeping humans separate from sharks
isn't a reality.

515
00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:54,558
There's gonna be a lot of people
that wanna swim, surf, and dive,

516
00:39:54,642 --> 00:39:56,268
and they're gonna encounter sharks.

517
00:39:56,352 --> 00:39:57,395
I want people to be safe

518
00:39:57,478 --> 00:40:00,314
because when an accident happens,
that doesn't help my cause,

519
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,149
that doesn't help shark conservation,

520
00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:04,693
that doesn't help
the reputation of a shark.

521
00:40:04,777 --> 00:40:07,613
And so I feel
a very strong moral obligation

522
00:40:07,696 --> 00:40:12,159
to make sure that people stay safe
and that they are taught how to stay safe.

523
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:17,456
One of the things about shark attacks
is that in almost all cases,

524
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:22,711
the person attacked, um, never knew
that they were gonna be attacked.

525
00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:27,675
So they never had the chance
to take evasive action.

526
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:33,347
My perspective on what she does,
it's more for show than it is for science.

527
00:40:34,306 --> 00:40:36,767
If you are a scientist
or you are not a scientist,

528
00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:40,354
that doesn't matter that much.
For me, what matters

529
00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:46,402
is the amount of time
that you spend with these animals.

530
00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:49,697
I think she probably has
a strong understanding of shark behavior

531
00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:52,616
because of the time that she spent
in the water with these animals.

532
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:54,660
But in the actual research community,

533
00:40:56,370 --> 00:40:57,997
she doesn't have any respect.

534
00:40:58,622 --> 00:41:00,249
It might seem to some that

535
00:41:00,332 --> 00:41:03,836
because she allows herself
to be photographed

536
00:41:03,919 --> 00:41:06,046
and tell her stories,

537
00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:08,424
that's not what a scientist does.

538
00:41:09,216 --> 00:41:12,595
But what does a scientist do
except observe carefully

539
00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:15,139
and share the view?

540
00:41:20,102 --> 00:41:22,980
We've been doing the field ID data sets
for 15 years now.

541
00:41:23,063 --> 00:41:24,940
[pages turning]

542
00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:30,362
[ethereal music plays]

543
00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:33,199
[Ocean] And we've got
300 different sharks identified.

544
00:41:48,756 --> 00:41:50,925
To me, they're as unique,

545
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:53,594
as individual,

546
00:41:54,970 --> 00:41:58,349
as important as any human being.

547
00:42:03,729 --> 00:42:06,524
[Juan] Me and Ocean started
working together in 2006.

548
00:42:07,066 --> 00:42:09,902
It was about five years in
when Roxy came into our lives.

549
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:14,114
The first time that we saw her,

550
00:42:14,615 --> 00:42:17,952
her jaw was freshly broken
and it looked horrible.

551
00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:22,122
I don't know.
For me, I could feel her pain.

552
00:42:23,457 --> 00:42:25,960
I could just see it
in the way she was swimming.

553
00:42:27,419 --> 00:42:30,297
And I remember
getting some footage of her.

554
00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:33,717
Everyone's like, "Oh my God.
It's a monster. It's disgustingly scary."

555
00:42:36,971 --> 00:42:38,514
[Ocean] She's not the monster.

556
00:42:39,348 --> 00:42:42,893
The monster is the people
that did that to her.

557
00:42:48,857 --> 00:42:51,485
Imagine having your jaw broken open.

558
00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:57,283
And imagine what that would be like
to try and eat.

559
00:43:02,913 --> 00:43:06,000
Her best chances of feeding
are really coming from

560
00:43:06,083 --> 00:43:08,836
fish that's already been caught
or is already dead,

561
00:43:09,837 --> 00:43:12,256
which is usually found
on a hook or in a net.

562
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,385
She has a lot working against her.

563
00:43:16,468 --> 00:43:18,637
And then to have the SAT tag
on top of that…

564
00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:23,267
She gets entangled
more than any other animal

565
00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:24,435
because of that tag.

566
00:43:32,818 --> 00:43:35,779
[Juan] A lot of times, we remove
fishing line and stuff from other sharks,

567
00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:37,656
they just bolt off.

568
00:43:41,577 --> 00:43:45,122
But with Roxy,
after so many years of removing that,

569
00:43:45,205 --> 00:43:47,541
I definitely know she recognizes us.

570
00:43:52,921 --> 00:43:56,008
There's so much emotion around her
with me personally.

571
00:43:56,091 --> 00:43:58,093
[melancholy music playing]

572
00:43:59,595 --> 00:44:02,681
In 1999, I broke my back
in a rock climbing accident.

573
00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:07,770
The line snapped, I fell like 50 feet.

574
00:44:12,066 --> 00:44:15,069
You know, and someone tells you
you're not gonna be able to walk again,

575
00:44:15,152 --> 00:44:17,821
like, hoo, that's a game changer, right?

576
00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:25,371
Is it even worth going anymore?

577
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,082
[melancholy music continues]

578
00:44:31,418 --> 00:44:33,754
I spend so much time with Juan,

579
00:44:33,837 --> 00:44:37,841
and I see how much pain he's in,
like, with his back, constantly.

580
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:47,726
And I feel that those two get each other
and connect on a different level

581
00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:50,646
because they're both constantly struggling
with pain.

582
00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:56,485
It's just beautiful
to get to see them interact together.

583
00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:01,949
We're supposed to keep
the elbow locked, but…

584
00:45:10,124 --> 00:45:15,045
I feel so relaxed at times,
and I'll just let it bend.

585
00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:17,131
[light uplifting music plays]

586
00:45:57,629 --> 00:46:01,800
[Ocean] It's just baffling to me
the way that animals can be treated.

587
00:46:04,428 --> 00:46:06,680
It was really that moment in time
where you realize

588
00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:09,099
they really don't have protection.

589
00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:13,479
Like, there were no legal repercussions
for just killing a shark here.

590
00:46:13,562 --> 00:46:15,564
[sinister music playing]

591
00:46:19,401 --> 00:46:23,739
Nearly 100 baby hammerhead sharks
found dead in Hawaii.

592
00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:27,868
These pups likely died after being caught
in a fisherman's gill net.

593
00:46:30,037 --> 00:46:32,581
[Ocean] They're not protected
from the wasteful killing.

594
00:46:36,668 --> 00:46:38,170
Things like shark fishing.

595
00:46:45,552 --> 00:46:47,554
[sinister music continues]

596
00:46:50,808 --> 00:46:53,936
Killing a shark, like Roxy, right?

597
00:46:54,019 --> 00:46:56,814
Breaking their jaw out,
dragging them out of the water

598
00:46:57,314 --> 00:46:58,982
just to take a picture with them.

599
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,362
[somber music playing]

600
00:47:10,577 --> 00:47:11,703
I feel…

601
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:19,628
I'm not really that great
about, like, putting…

602
00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:22,673
putting words to, like, emotions.

603
00:47:23,841 --> 00:47:28,554
Of course, you feel heartbroken
about that. It's suffering.

604
00:47:29,888 --> 00:47:31,056
[mouse clicking]

605
00:47:33,058 --> 00:47:34,101
At this point,

606
00:47:35,769 --> 00:47:41,316
shark populations were down
to fewer than 10% for most large species.

607
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,278
[mouse clicking]

608
00:47:44,361 --> 00:47:47,698
[Ocean] All of them are headed
towards the brink of extinction.

609
00:47:47,781 --> 00:47:49,449
[mouse clicking frantically]

610
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:52,452
[Ocean] Okay, so where are we?

611
00:47:52,536 --> 00:47:53,370
Here.

612
00:47:54,538 --> 00:47:57,124
[Ocean] And where are we going to…

613
00:47:58,417 --> 00:47:59,334
Fish market.

614
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,003
[somber music playing]

615
00:48:01,086 --> 00:48:05,591
[Ocean] And then when I realized
shark finning was going on…

616
00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:11,763
and that shark populations
were being decimated around the planet

617
00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:15,392
for this wasteful bowl of soup,
it lit a fire in me.

618
00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:22,190
Shark…

619
00:48:22,274 --> 00:48:24,443
Countries all around the world
are killing them,

620
00:48:24,526 --> 00:48:26,737
and it happens
out of sight and out of mind.

621
00:48:28,363 --> 00:48:30,657
-Do you know what kind of shark?
-[man] Huh?

622
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:31,867
Is this the whale shark?

623
00:48:33,619 --> 00:48:37,664
Even if they weren't a keystone species,
super important for marine ecosystems,

624
00:48:37,748 --> 00:48:38,832
even if they weren't,

625
00:48:38,916 --> 00:48:41,793
just to kill an animal
for less than 2% of its body…

626
00:48:44,087 --> 00:48:46,506
Why would anyone do that
just for a bowl of soup?

627
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:48,592
[man speaking indistinctly]

628
00:48:51,428 --> 00:48:53,347
[Juan] Where is the biggest problem?

629
00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:57,142
The biggest problem
I saw straight in front of me was

630
00:48:57,225 --> 00:49:00,270
sharks being exterminated.
Okay, that's the problem.

631
00:49:00,354 --> 00:49:03,857
So how do you get that information out?
It's through visual imagery.

632
00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:05,943
[pensive music playing]

633
00:49:08,445 --> 00:49:10,072
[Ocean] I'll use my appearance.

634
00:49:12,115 --> 00:49:14,368
I'll put myself out there for a cause.

635
00:49:14,451 --> 00:49:16,912
[motivational music playing]

636
00:49:18,246 --> 00:49:20,540
People look first and listen second.

637
00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:23,377
Catching people's attention.

638
00:49:26,421 --> 00:49:29,675
And then being able to get
that good message through…

639
00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:33,637
is something that I definitely aim for.

640
00:49:34,221 --> 00:49:36,682
This is small-scale.
This is every single day.

641
00:49:41,228 --> 00:49:43,939
With those images,
you could actually reach

642
00:49:44,022 --> 00:49:45,816
so many more people

643
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,527
than any of the other things
that we've done.

644
00:49:50,404 --> 00:49:53,198
It's an opportunity
to reach the entire public.

645
00:49:53,281 --> 00:49:55,283
[music continues]

646
00:50:15,762 --> 00:50:17,347
[music fades]

647
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:21,143
As a female, I'll get
a different level of attention for it

648
00:50:21,226 --> 00:50:23,729
and I'll get a higher level of criticism.

649
00:50:26,106 --> 00:50:28,108
Not everyone's gonna agree with you.

650
00:50:28,191 --> 00:50:31,236
[mouse clicking]

651
00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:34,448
[Ocean] Keyboard warriors,
millions of miles away.

652
00:50:34,531 --> 00:50:36,867
[intriguing music playing]

653
00:50:39,786 --> 00:50:41,621
People are like, "You're gonna die."

654
00:50:41,705 --> 00:50:44,374
I'm like, "I hope you have
a wonderful day and a long life too."

655
00:50:47,669 --> 00:50:51,381
People want to comment on my appearance
or my approach to conservation.

656
00:50:51,465 --> 00:50:53,216
I challenge them to do better.

657
00:50:54,926 --> 00:50:56,803
So it is what it is.

658
00:50:56,887 --> 00:50:58,722
Just gotta work with it, right?

659
00:51:03,727 --> 00:51:08,565
Ultimately, we knew we had to do something
more extreme to cut through the bullshit.

660
00:51:09,941 --> 00:51:10,776
[Juan] Jaws.

661
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:13,361
[perilous music playing]

662
00:51:15,072 --> 00:51:18,492
The deepest fear
that everybody has of sharks.

663
00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:21,036
It's always the image of a great white.

664
00:51:26,416 --> 00:51:29,086
[Ocean] And so we wanted
to go to get this picture

665
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,132
to try and show connection
between human and great white shark,

666
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:36,301
the "anti-Jaws."

667
00:51:38,929 --> 00:51:42,808
And in Hawaii, we do get them
coming through every year,

668
00:51:42,891 --> 00:51:44,768
but it's so rare to see them.

669
00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:49,022
[Ocean] Like the unicorn of the ocean.

670
00:51:50,273 --> 00:51:51,983
Rare to ever see,

671
00:51:52,067 --> 00:51:55,821
let alone actually be in the water
and have one swim up to you.

672
00:52:01,827 --> 00:52:04,996
There's only a few places in the world
where we know we can find great whites

673
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,292
and that you can dive with great whites,
and, um, one place is Guadalupe.

674
00:52:29,229 --> 00:52:32,440
[Juan] My first time diving
with great whites.

675
00:52:33,608 --> 00:52:36,736
The chum and the fish is all going
down current that direction.

676
00:52:37,529 --> 00:52:39,823
And the shark should come
from that direction.

677
00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:42,951
And he comes from the bow of the boat.

678
00:52:44,327 --> 00:52:47,622
Eyes open,
making eye contact with each person.

679
00:52:54,754 --> 00:52:55,922
And then he dives down.

680
00:52:56,006 --> 00:52:59,593
And then the next thing he's coming
straight up from the bottom so fast.

681
00:52:59,676 --> 00:53:02,429
And it's just like a blur of white. Boom!

682
00:53:07,225 --> 00:53:10,770
What it made me realize is that
if they wanted humans,

683
00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,315
we'd never have a chance.

684
00:53:13,398 --> 00:53:16,026
People wouldn't be, like,
bitten by sharks.

685
00:53:16,109 --> 00:53:17,360
They'd be disappearing.

686
00:53:36,713 --> 00:53:38,965
So, really, for the first time in my life,

687
00:53:39,049 --> 00:53:43,178
I decided to go and start observing

688
00:53:43,261 --> 00:53:45,764
the behavior
of a specific species of shark

689
00:53:47,182 --> 00:53:48,558
from within a cage.

690
00:53:48,642 --> 00:53:50,644
[edgy intriguing music playing]

691
00:54:06,034 --> 00:54:09,246
[Ocean] Just watching the way
the sharks interact with each other,

692
00:54:10,664 --> 00:54:12,415
watching their conversations,

693
00:54:13,792 --> 00:54:15,627
and getting to know the language.

694
00:54:33,603 --> 00:54:37,983
[Ocean] There's a certain level
of nervousness, but it's more excitement.

695
00:54:44,197 --> 00:54:48,618
And it's that feeling of like,
"Okay, I'm ready for this now."

696
00:55:01,047 --> 00:55:06,303
Learning, observing, noticing
when I was, like, getting locked in here,

697
00:55:06,386 --> 00:55:09,514
and, oop, there's one right here
on the side. I missed that one.

698
00:55:13,643 --> 00:55:17,564
Now, do I know 100% what's gonna happen
when I'm outside this cage?

699
00:55:18,898 --> 00:55:19,733
No.

700
00:55:19,816 --> 00:55:21,818
[music continues]

701
00:55:41,254 --> 00:55:43,131
And then I saw this beautiful shark.

702
00:55:49,471 --> 00:55:51,514
The most dominant female in the area.

703
00:55:58,104 --> 00:56:02,150
Her curiosity towards me
was quite profound.

704
00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:10,909
She's looking at me.

705
00:56:19,209 --> 00:56:23,713
Maybe this isn't the right way to say it,
but it almost felt like an invitation.

706
00:56:52,951 --> 00:56:54,953
[mesmerizing music playing]

707
00:57:13,346 --> 00:57:18,351
No one had interacted with a white shark
in that way prior to that day.

708
00:57:23,064 --> 00:57:25,066
[uplifting music playing]

709
00:57:25,942 --> 00:57:27,861
[Juan] This was that anti-Jaws moment.

710
00:57:37,537 --> 00:57:38,830
[Ocean] And gave it to GoPro

711
00:57:38,913 --> 00:57:41,124
and they released it
as a conservation thing.

712
00:57:50,341 --> 00:57:52,385
[Juan] That's when everything changed.

713
00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:54,304
-[man] Ocean Ramsey.
-[woman] Ocean Ramsey.

714
00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:56,181
-Ocean Ramsey.
-Ocean Ramsey.

715
00:57:56,264 --> 00:57:57,724
-Her name's Ocean?
-Her name is Ocean.

716
00:57:57,807 --> 00:58:01,519
A fearless daredevil
who swims with great whites.

717
00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:04,272
[man] This woman is actually swimming
with a great white shark.

718
00:58:04,355 --> 00:58:07,317
[woman 1] No!
That's a giant shark. [laughing]

719
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,444
[woman 2] I'm not sure
how much the shark liked that.

720
00:58:09,527 --> 00:58:12,071
Great white sharks
are simply misunderstood.

721
00:58:12,155 --> 00:58:14,616
So, like any rational person,
she swims with them.

722
00:58:14,699 --> 00:58:17,368
If we were playing
To Tell the Truth right now,

723
00:58:17,452 --> 00:58:20,455
I could put any two people next to you
and no one would ever pick

724
00:58:20,538 --> 00:58:22,790
you're the one that went swimming
with a great white shark.

725
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:25,251
[funky music playing]

726
00:58:25,335 --> 00:58:27,170
[Ocean] The community began to grow.

727
00:58:28,755 --> 00:58:32,258
Also, there were
some business opportunities

728
00:58:33,051 --> 00:58:35,220
to passively raise awareness,

729
00:58:37,263 --> 00:58:39,182
which was really good for the sharks.

730
00:58:46,147 --> 00:58:48,066
There's now more and more people

731
00:58:48,149 --> 00:58:51,569
who want to explore
and learn more about shark behavior.

732
00:58:51,653 --> 00:58:54,239
And we're there
to introduce people to sharks.

733
00:58:54,322 --> 00:58:57,075
You guys can come in.
Just stay super close to the boat.

734
00:59:00,453 --> 00:59:02,080
And helping to keep people safe.

735
00:59:03,373 --> 00:59:07,585
There's nothing like empowering someone
with personal, first-hand perspective.

736
00:59:08,336 --> 00:59:09,712
For them to be able to say,

737
00:59:09,796 --> 00:59:12,966
"I was in the water with a shark
and it was a beautiful experience."

738
00:59:15,718 --> 00:59:21,057
And to appreciate what a shark truly is,

739
00:59:21,140 --> 00:59:24,102
and that will be inspiring to them
to help protect them.

740
00:59:28,773 --> 00:59:33,736
I mean, the tricky part is
the balance of this whole thing, right?

741
00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:40,618
Is like, we need to protect these animals.

742
00:59:49,502 --> 00:59:55,967
But I saw what that animal can do
to a human being.

743
00:59:58,094 --> 00:59:59,887
[reporter 1] This morning,
people on high alert

744
00:59:59,971 --> 01:00:02,223
at a popular surf spot in O'ahu.

745
01:00:02,307 --> 01:00:05,518
[reporter 2] This time, a 25-year-old
surfer's in critical condition

746
01:00:05,602 --> 01:00:07,103
after he was attacked by a shark.

747
01:00:07,186 --> 01:00:09,897
[reporter 3] Colin Cook was surfing
off O'ahu's North Shore

748
01:00:09,981 --> 01:00:12,233
when the shark suddenly appeared.

749
01:00:14,152 --> 01:00:16,070
[Colin] It was, like, a beautiful day.

750
01:00:16,571 --> 01:00:19,032
And the water looked clear
and really inviting.

751
01:00:19,866 --> 01:00:22,535
I had been out there, you know,
for a couple hours.

752
01:00:22,619 --> 01:00:26,456
And I remember, at that point,
thinking I probably should get a wave in.

753
01:00:27,248 --> 01:00:31,002
And out of nowhere, I remember
being slammed by something

754
01:00:31,085 --> 01:00:32,462
and getting pulled under.

755
01:00:32,545 --> 01:00:34,297
I kind of opened my eyes underwater

756
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,468
and realized that there was, like,
a large shark attached to my leg.

757
01:00:39,093 --> 01:00:42,263
And I was able to break free
and swim to the surface.

758
01:00:42,347 --> 01:00:44,307
This finger…
tip of the finger was missing,

759
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:46,643
and these three fingers
were hanging over the side.

760
01:00:46,726 --> 01:00:48,853
I thought, "Oh, that was it. I'm okay."

761
01:00:48,936 --> 01:00:51,981
And then I looked back at my leg,
and it was completely gone.

762
01:00:52,065 --> 01:00:55,735
And I realized at that point,
like, I'm done, I'm dead.

763
01:00:57,612 --> 01:01:01,199
[Keoni] I just felt a sense
that I was supposed to be there.

764
01:01:02,867 --> 01:01:05,495
Whoa. I don't know how much
we can get into this, guys,

765
01:01:05,578 --> 01:01:08,956
but, like the shark bit his leg here.

766
01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:13,878
And the leash was on the ankle.

767
01:01:13,961 --> 01:01:16,214
Because of the placement of the bite,

768
01:01:16,297 --> 01:01:18,800
since Colin climbed back on his board,

769
01:01:18,883 --> 01:01:22,762
the shark was ripping him around
by the leash, like, when I got to him.

770
01:01:23,596 --> 01:01:27,392
At that point, I looked over and heard,
"Hold on, buddy, I'm coming for you."

771
01:01:27,475 --> 01:01:31,104
Keoni happened to be paddling by me
on a stand-up paddleboard.

772
01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:32,855
Ocean and Juan had told me, like,

773
01:01:32,939 --> 01:01:36,651
"Listen, tiger shark's gonna have
a ton of power moving forward."

774
01:01:37,276 --> 01:01:39,404
"But if you can make it miss,

775
01:01:39,487 --> 01:01:43,199
then you've got like ten, 12 seconds
for it to turn around."

776
01:01:43,991 --> 01:01:46,327
And I hit it as hard as I could.

777
01:01:46,411 --> 01:01:49,122
I tried to push it down
in the water column.

778
01:01:49,205 --> 01:01:53,167
I remember as soon as I hit her down
and I knew that her mouth was passing us,

779
01:01:53,251 --> 01:01:55,878
I threw the paddle
and I put him on my back,

780
01:01:57,714 --> 01:01:59,257
and we started paddling in.

781
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:02,427
I had, like, virtually no life left in me.

782
01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:05,513
It was kind of hard to breathe.
And… [inhales deeply]

783
01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:08,808
I remember I was kind of
telling Keoni my last wishes.

784
01:02:09,517 --> 01:02:12,603
He said,
"Hey, man, just tell my mom I love her."

785
01:02:16,107 --> 01:02:18,776
[Colin] We've been close
ever since this happened.

786
01:02:19,777 --> 01:02:22,280
It's kind of a unique bond that we have.

787
01:02:24,365 --> 01:02:26,868
You know,
he's almost like this hero to me.

788
01:02:26,951 --> 01:02:29,412
[reporter 1] Cook made it to shore
with the help of a friend.

789
01:02:29,495 --> 01:02:33,624
His left leg had to be amputated
and he lost parts of two of his fingers,

790
01:02:33,708 --> 01:02:35,209
but he's still here.

791
01:02:35,293 --> 01:02:38,629
[reporter 2] Keoni Bowthorpe was awarded
the Carnegie Medal.

792
01:02:38,713 --> 01:02:42,467
It's given to those who risk their lives
to an extraordinary degree

793
01:02:42,550 --> 01:02:44,385
to save someone else.

794
01:02:44,469 --> 01:02:46,763
[Ocean] It's such a wonderful hero story

795
01:02:47,722 --> 01:02:52,059
that my heart just… it just feels crushed.

796
01:02:53,060 --> 01:02:55,271
It's… it's just a tragedy.

797
01:02:55,354 --> 01:03:01,152
And the only thing that I can do is
look for the positive in any situation.

798
01:03:01,235 --> 01:03:03,738
And that's the fact that it's so rare.

799
01:03:10,995 --> 01:03:14,916
All day, every day, sharks are swimming
past surfers, swimmers and divers.

800
01:03:14,999 --> 01:03:17,001
[tense music playing]

801
01:03:24,550 --> 01:03:26,969
And if they looked at us
as a natural prey item…

802
01:03:30,515 --> 01:03:34,143
these kinds of incidents
would be happening all the time.

803
01:03:38,898 --> 01:03:40,983
And yet it's so rare.

804
01:03:49,951 --> 01:03:53,955
I feel like my job is not just to protect
humans from sharks…

805
01:03:56,123 --> 01:03:59,418
it's also to protect sharks from humans.

806
01:04:05,258 --> 01:04:07,176
I sometimes go through
these periods of time

807
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:09,095
where you've gotten
to know these individuals,

808
01:04:09,178 --> 01:04:11,222
and then you don't see them
for a couple of years.

809
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:15,142
[pensive music playing]

810
01:04:16,644 --> 01:04:18,104
You're like, "Did they get hooked

811
01:04:18,187 --> 01:04:20,773
"and get their jaw broken open
or wrapped up in a net?

812
01:04:20,857 --> 01:04:22,608
"Are they caught in a fishing line?"

813
01:04:24,110 --> 01:04:24,944
"Did they die?"

814
01:04:28,322 --> 01:04:30,366
We hadn't seen Roxy in a long time.

815
01:04:38,291 --> 01:04:42,253
[Juan] She had a rope going down
into her stomach with a hook.

816
01:04:48,259 --> 01:04:50,219
[Ocean] I couldn't cut that

817
01:04:50,303 --> 01:04:53,723
because if we put tension on it,
you could just see the pain in her.

818
01:04:56,183 --> 01:04:58,644
God, that broke my heart to see that.

819
01:05:02,481 --> 01:05:04,734
You could tell
that she was just super weak.

820
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,669
In my head, I was just like,
"Okay, she's probably not gonna make it."

821
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:33,262
I got to say goodbye at least, you know?

822
01:05:43,439 --> 01:05:47,109
[Ocean] I was most afraid for the sharks

823
01:05:47,193 --> 01:05:51,906
at the point where I had really fallen
in love with them as individuals.

824
01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:55,034
So let's do something
to actually help save them.

825
01:05:55,117 --> 01:05:57,328
[anticipatory music playing]

826
01:05:57,411 --> 01:05:59,956
So we tried to get a law passed

827
01:06:01,374 --> 01:06:03,000
to make policy change,

828
01:06:04,210 --> 01:06:08,673
to get them to be fully protected
from wasteful killing in Hawaii.

829
01:06:10,299 --> 01:06:13,094
[man 1] Next bill is HB1734.

830
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:15,554
Relating to marine life protection.

831
01:06:16,722 --> 01:06:17,848
[man 2] It's a long one.

832
01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:30,236
[woman] Can you speak into
the microphone?

833
01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:32,571
Sorry. Can you guys hear me okay?

834
01:06:35,074 --> 01:06:38,452
[Ocean] It was dropping
everything that was going on in our life.

835
01:06:38,536 --> 01:06:42,123
The social media strategy,
we'll just keep going on that one.

836
01:06:43,249 --> 01:06:45,668
[Juan] I don't need to sleep.
Let's get this done

837
01:06:45,751 --> 01:06:48,379
and try and get
as much media out there as possible.

838
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:53,092
Aloha, I'm Ocean Ramsey. I'm a shark
and marine conservationist and scientist.

839
01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:56,971
Sharks are crucial for the health
and balance of marine ecosystems

840
01:06:57,054 --> 01:06:59,098
and need and deserve to be protected.

841
01:06:59,181 --> 01:07:03,227
I think she thinks like a shark.
And that I mean as a compliment.

842
01:07:03,310 --> 01:07:05,938
[Ocean] Take a stand against shark fishing
and elect local leaders

843
01:07:06,022 --> 01:07:08,441
that will establish laws
to help protect sharks.

844
01:07:09,191 --> 01:07:10,234
Hi, you guys.

845
01:07:11,193 --> 01:07:12,945
[kids gasp, exclaim]

846
01:07:13,946 --> 01:07:17,992
[Ocean] Rallying in the community to try
and get people to bombard the politicians.

847
01:07:18,075 --> 01:07:19,452
The sad reality is

848
01:07:19,535 --> 01:07:24,165
it's over 100 million sharks
are killed every year.

849
01:07:24,248 --> 01:07:26,834
Why protect them?
Why do we actually need sharks?

850
01:07:26,917 --> 01:07:30,087
If we remove them from our ocean,
everything falls apart.

851
01:07:30,171 --> 01:07:32,423
70% of the air that you breathe
comes from the oceans,

852
01:07:32,506 --> 01:07:35,676
and sharks are a vital component
to that healthy marine ecosystem.

853
01:07:37,136 --> 01:07:39,180
[Mauricio] In order to make a change

854
01:07:40,473 --> 01:07:41,766
in the time that we need,

855
01:07:41,849 --> 01:07:44,977
I think that we really must work together.

856
01:07:45,895 --> 01:07:47,730
We must work as a team.

857
01:07:48,981 --> 01:07:51,817
In my district in South Maui,
there's been a spate of shark attacks.

858
01:07:51,901 --> 01:07:55,071
The fact that a couple instances
are happening are likely due

859
01:07:55,154 --> 01:07:58,616
to the increase in the number of people
that are spending time in the water.

860
01:07:59,116 --> 01:08:01,368
My name is Juan Oliphant,
shark conservationist.

861
01:08:01,452 --> 01:08:03,287
[Ocean] It wasn't just Juan and I going.

862
01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:06,082
It was a whole bunch of people
in the community.

863
01:08:06,665 --> 01:08:10,836
Hawaii State Capitol Building.
Room 312. Hope you can make it.

864
01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:13,255
[indistinct chatter]

865
01:08:13,339 --> 01:08:17,551
Shark species will go extinct
without our protection.

866
01:08:17,635 --> 01:08:22,139
We've had incidents of sharks being caught
and strung up on street signs,

867
01:08:22,223 --> 01:08:23,891
like hung from the neck.

868
01:08:24,391 --> 01:08:26,811
[Ocean] Submitting testimony online.

869
01:08:26,894 --> 01:08:28,813
[keyboard clacking]

870
01:08:29,855 --> 01:08:33,150
[Ocean] From all the different
organizations that we work with.

871
01:08:35,069 --> 01:08:38,030
[Juan] She's so driven
on so many different platforms.

872
01:08:39,573 --> 01:08:41,117
It's hard to keep up with her.

873
01:08:42,451 --> 01:08:44,870
[Ocean] Not everyone's gonna
agree with you.

874
01:08:45,538 --> 01:08:49,250
[fisherman] There's a huge competition
between sharks and fishermen.

875
01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:51,919
Some fishermen kept opposing it.

876
01:08:52,002 --> 01:08:57,383
I don't believe that catching and killing
sharks is a major problem in Hawaii.

877
01:08:57,466 --> 01:08:58,425
That's not true.

878
01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:00,302
It causes a lot of chaos.

879
01:09:00,386 --> 01:09:03,597
There have been malicious killings,
very intentional killings.

880
01:09:03,681 --> 01:09:06,976
-Is that or is that not self-defense?
-That's debatable.

881
01:09:07,059 --> 01:09:09,937
No, no, no. We're gonna learn from nature.

882
01:09:10,020 --> 01:09:12,940
What academic publications
have you published?

883
01:09:13,023 --> 01:09:15,943
When I look at your website,
it's very commercial in nature.

884
01:09:16,026 --> 01:09:19,071
They underestimate Ocean
about the toughness

885
01:09:19,155 --> 01:09:21,157
that she is and she has.

886
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,242
[frantic orchestral music]

887
01:09:24,368 --> 01:09:26,078
We're in opposition of this bill.

888
01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:27,746
I'm in full support.

889
01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:29,540
I'm testifying in opposition
to this bill.

890
01:09:29,623 --> 01:09:33,210
So I'm here to give the manō
the full protection.

891
01:09:36,505 --> 01:09:38,507
[Ocean] We put in so much effort.

892
01:09:43,470 --> 01:09:44,638
But it failed.

893
01:09:52,146 --> 01:09:53,522
[frantic music fades out]

894
01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:55,149
Year after year after year.

895
01:10:00,487 --> 01:10:04,450
[Juan] That's when I definitely would
see her in her most dark phases.

896
01:10:06,327 --> 01:10:07,912
And she's a different person.

897
01:10:08,412 --> 01:10:14,585
It's just… Her mindset definitely changes
to being, like, a lot more negative.

898
01:10:17,171 --> 01:10:19,715
She just doesn't know how to stop.

899
01:10:20,299 --> 01:10:21,217
I know.

900
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:23,302
[gentle music plays]

901
01:10:23,928 --> 01:10:26,388
She's just gonna work herself to death.

902
01:10:31,602 --> 01:10:34,647
I just know
that she's battling something tough.

903
01:10:40,694 --> 01:10:45,532
She doesn't really open up to me
even about it because, um…

904
01:10:47,576 --> 01:10:48,786
I don't know why.

905
01:10:48,869 --> 01:10:50,871
[music continues]

906
01:11:33,914 --> 01:11:38,961
I definitely felt, like,
major depression, which I--

907
01:11:39,044 --> 01:11:42,089
It's funny, I actually feel bad
about feeling depressed

908
01:11:42,172 --> 01:11:46,302
because you have so many opportunities,
so many things that are going on for you.

909
01:11:47,469 --> 01:11:50,723
And, you know, it's like
everybody goes through struggles.

910
01:12:01,942 --> 01:12:03,944
[soft piano music playing]

911
01:12:09,366 --> 01:12:13,037
[Juan] I wanted to feel like I'm there
in those moments with her.

912
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:19,752
[Ocean] I couldn't do this without him.

913
01:12:21,211 --> 01:12:24,548
He's the only person, I think,
that understands me.

914
01:12:31,055 --> 01:12:35,100
Everything that we've been through
together has only made us stronger.

915
01:12:35,184 --> 01:12:37,061
[music fades out]

916
01:12:43,817 --> 01:12:46,987
[Ocean] By 2019,
we've been working for four years

917
01:12:47,071 --> 01:12:48,947
trying to, like, get that law passed.

918
01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:54,495
The next deadline
for the bill to be reintroduced

919
01:12:54,578 --> 01:12:56,538
was coming up at the end of the week.

920
01:12:58,624 --> 01:13:03,837
And we knew we were coming up short again
on support from the politicians.

921
01:13:08,092 --> 01:13:09,718
And then it happens.

922
01:13:16,683 --> 01:13:22,022
We heard about a whale
that was coming onto the reef in Waikiki.

923
01:13:25,442 --> 01:13:26,610
It was a dead whale.

924
01:13:29,613 --> 01:13:31,907
I'm instantly like, "Ooh,"

925
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:35,953
because a dead whale carcass
is gonna attract sharks.

926
01:13:37,913 --> 01:13:39,123
So we were in the water.

927
01:13:39,206 --> 01:13:41,667
There were tiger sharks
and we were observing them.

928
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:43,752
[suspenseful music playing]

929
01:13:47,005 --> 01:13:50,092
And at one point,
the tiger sharks disappeared.

930
01:13:58,225 --> 01:14:00,060
And then everything was quiet.

931
01:14:09,486 --> 01:14:12,614
But I'm hearing little dolphin noises.

932
01:14:12,698 --> 01:14:13,657
[dolphins clicking]

933
01:14:13,740 --> 01:14:16,243
And I'm seeing some flashes
down in the deep.

934
01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:23,500
And then up from the depths…

935
01:14:26,211 --> 01:14:30,132
comes this massive great white shark.

936
01:14:31,216 --> 01:14:32,426
Oh my God!

937
01:15:03,916 --> 01:15:06,710
She's so huge, 20-plus foot.

938
01:15:09,296 --> 01:15:12,341
Juan was able to actually get in
really close.

939
01:15:13,050 --> 01:15:16,929
And you could see her trying
to just take down more of this whale meat.

940
01:15:20,849 --> 01:15:23,810
And all the bits of whale flesh

941
01:15:23,894 --> 01:15:27,606
are sort of coming out
the side of her gills.

942
01:15:38,825 --> 01:15:41,036
It just seems so surreal.

943
01:15:43,789 --> 01:15:48,085
There's no word to describe
what that experience was like.

944
01:16:00,222 --> 01:16:02,140
And she goes right to the boat.

945
01:16:02,724 --> 01:16:03,850
[clunking]

946
01:16:03,934 --> 01:16:05,978
And it sounds like metal on metal.

947
01:16:06,061 --> 01:16:09,064
And you just realize, like,
how thick their skin is.

948
01:16:18,865 --> 01:16:20,867
[dolphins clicking]

949
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:45,142
[mesmerizing music playing]

950
01:16:53,275 --> 01:16:55,402
[dolphins clicking]

951
01:17:01,450 --> 01:17:05,787
[Ocean] It just seems so much
more beautiful than I could have imagined.

952
01:17:10,626 --> 01:17:12,502
[clicking]

953
01:17:24,556 --> 01:17:26,808
With her, it's a different feeling.

954
01:17:28,727 --> 01:17:30,729
I don't feel, like, the need to breathe.

955
01:17:33,565 --> 01:17:36,276
The emotions
and the connection that I feel,

956
01:17:37,361 --> 01:17:38,487
it's overwhelming.

957
01:17:47,621 --> 01:17:49,289
This is what I'm supposed to do.

958
01:18:01,718 --> 01:18:03,261
This is what I'm alive for.

959
01:18:13,313 --> 01:18:16,191
[reporter 1] This isn't a movie.
This is real.

960
01:18:16,274 --> 01:18:17,984
This is a 20-foot great white.

961
01:18:18,068 --> 01:18:22,030
The largest great white shark on record
anywhere in the world.

962
01:18:22,114 --> 01:18:24,991
[reporter 1] And the oldest too,
50 years old.

963
01:18:25,075 --> 01:18:27,160
[reporter 2] The shark
made a surprise appearance

964
01:18:27,244 --> 01:18:28,704
off the coast of O'ahu this week.

965
01:18:28,787 --> 01:18:31,331
Diver Ocean Ramsey swam alongside her.

966
01:18:31,415 --> 01:18:33,834
[reporter 1] Ramsey has traveled
the globe studying sharks…

967
01:18:33,917 --> 01:18:38,672
[Ocean] The attention that came on Hawaii
for having great white sharks

968
01:18:39,548 --> 01:18:40,966
was huge.

969
01:18:41,049 --> 01:18:42,759
She is doing this to kind of show

970
01:18:42,843 --> 01:18:46,012
that not all sharks
can prove deadly to humans.

971
01:18:46,096 --> 01:18:49,766
And it's raising the need to protect
these animals versus vilify them.

972
01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:52,769
-Do you think she has a point there?
-No.

973
01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:56,690
[Ocean] There was controversy around it,
saying, "Oh, you shouldn't touch a shark."

974
01:18:56,773 --> 01:18:59,526
You absolutely don't need
to harass wild animals

975
01:18:59,609 --> 01:19:01,111
to show they're not dangerous.

976
01:19:01,194 --> 01:19:02,404
Look, but don't touch.

977
01:19:02,487 --> 01:19:04,489
[hopeful music playing]

978
01:19:07,576 --> 01:19:12,330
[Ocean] The controversy was actually good
because it kept it in the news longer.

979
01:19:15,041 --> 01:19:19,463
And it kept a shark in the news
in a good way.

980
01:19:22,007 --> 01:19:25,177
Because it was people saying,
"Oh, you shouldn't touch them."

981
01:19:26,511 --> 01:19:27,679
Like, people care.

982
01:19:30,348 --> 01:19:34,144
On the inside, I was like, "Oh my gosh,
people actually care about a shark."

983
01:19:37,731 --> 01:19:41,777
There's a lot of controversy about
how close you should get to a white shark.

984
01:19:41,860 --> 01:19:44,321
In general,
I don't think the sharks give a darn.

985
01:19:45,197 --> 01:19:47,449
Um, I don't think that it's harassment.

986
01:19:47,532 --> 01:19:49,075
I don't agree with it,

987
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:51,620
but the level of good
that they could potentially be doing

988
01:19:51,703 --> 01:19:54,915
for the overall population
of shark conservation…

989
01:19:56,792 --> 01:19:58,835
There can be a lot of good done as well.

990
01:19:58,919 --> 01:20:02,881
People kill 70 to 100 million sharks
every year.

991
01:20:02,964 --> 01:20:03,965
Her numbers are startling,

992
01:20:04,049 --> 01:20:06,343
that they're killing
that many of those beautiful creatures.

993
01:20:06,426 --> 01:20:07,427
-Yeah.
-That's alarming.

994
01:20:07,511 --> 01:20:10,096
[reporter] The timing of the shark's visit
comes as Ramsey pushes

995
01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:14,142
for stronger legislation to protect
the mammoth creatures of the sea.

996
01:20:15,393 --> 01:20:16,853
[Ocean] Right then, that week,

997
01:20:16,937 --> 01:20:20,398
was where we needed to schedule
this bill to protect sharks.

998
01:20:21,149 --> 01:20:25,862
And I'm like, "Okay, I'm on the level."
I'm like, "Bring it, let's go."

999
01:20:28,782 --> 01:20:29,866
This is Roxy.

1000
01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:33,495
Right now, she's currently swimming around
with a wire leader in her throat.

1001
01:20:33,578 --> 01:20:37,541
Many people have come out to meet her
and see her and fall in love with her

1002
01:20:37,624 --> 01:20:40,126
and ask me all the time on social media,
"Is she alive?"

1003
01:20:40,210 --> 01:20:41,628
And honestly, I can't say.

1004
01:20:42,337 --> 01:20:45,423
These animals are going to be banished
from the planet,

1005
01:20:45,507 --> 01:20:47,634
and there's no way back.

1006
01:20:48,218 --> 01:20:49,636
It's on the line right now.

1007
01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:54,057
We have the best chance
we will ever have right now.

1008
01:20:54,140 --> 01:20:58,520
Just stop killing sharks
to begin to heal the ocean.

1009
01:21:00,188 --> 01:21:02,399
[man] Thanks, everybody, for coming out.

1010
01:21:02,983 --> 01:21:06,194
As you can see,
very little opposition, so…

1011
01:21:06,278 --> 01:21:10,156
That wasn't by accident. That was
because you folks have been organizing

1012
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,618
and pushing this issue
for quite some time now, so…

1013
01:21:13,702 --> 01:21:19,457
If we can be open enough
to see things from multiple perspectives,

1014
01:21:19,541 --> 01:21:23,169
we have a greater chance
of finding that balance

1015
01:21:23,253 --> 01:21:27,924
and connection
with our fellow creatures of this world.

1016
01:21:28,008 --> 01:21:32,220
Man has always eliminated things
when they're afraid of things.

1017
01:21:32,304 --> 01:21:35,432
You're going into their environment,
you know.

1018
01:21:35,515 --> 01:21:37,100
It's our environment too,

1019
01:21:37,183 --> 01:21:40,604
but how do we coexist?
You know, that's the real lesson.

1020
01:21:40,687 --> 01:21:42,689
[indistinct chattering]

1021
01:21:45,150 --> 01:21:46,276
Good news!

1022
01:21:48,069 --> 01:21:50,530
[man] House Bill 553,

1023
01:21:50,614 --> 01:21:54,409
a bill for an act relating
to the protection of sharks.

1024
01:21:54,492 --> 01:22:00,415
This establishes the offense
of intentionally and knowingly

1025
01:22:00,498 --> 01:22:04,210
capturing, entangling, or killing a shark

1026
01:22:04,294 --> 01:22:06,546
in state marine waters.

1027
01:22:08,465 --> 01:22:12,886
And House Bill 553
is now law in Hawaii as Act 51.

1028
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,096
[speaking indistinctly]

1029
01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:16,973
[electronic buzzing]

1030
01:22:17,057 --> 01:22:19,309
[uplifting music playing]

1031
01:22:23,021 --> 01:22:26,149
[Ocean] It's now illegal
to kill sharks in Hawaii.

1032
01:22:30,236 --> 01:22:34,699
[Juan] But the bigger thing is
that this law is now already in use,

1033
01:22:34,783 --> 01:22:36,701
and it can be given to other states.

1034
01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:41,456
It just takes a few people to speak up,
and things can change.

1035
01:22:48,171 --> 01:22:49,172
[music ends]

1036
01:22:51,299 --> 01:22:52,759
[Juan] Ooh!

1037
01:22:52,842 --> 01:22:54,844
That is Roxy.

1038
01:22:56,012 --> 01:22:59,224
Oh God, yeah!

1039
01:23:01,851 --> 01:23:03,228
When she came back,

1040
01:23:04,187 --> 01:23:06,815
levels of excitement and happiness,
you're just like,

1041
01:23:06,898 --> 01:23:10,026
"She's alive.
She's here. She's kicking it."

1042
01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:13,738
Unbelievable. Yeah, baby, what's up?

1043
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:16,366
Ah, love this shark.

1044
01:23:16,866 --> 01:23:18,785
Oh, Roxy.

1045
01:23:23,415 --> 01:23:25,417
[uplifting music playing]

1046
01:23:36,177 --> 01:23:39,514
We were thrilled to see her, like,
just looking so healthy.

1047
01:23:43,977 --> 01:23:46,813
Something happened.
Someone helped her out,

1048
01:23:46,896 --> 01:23:51,401
and she was, yeah, on fire.
She was amazing.

1049
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:58,450
Getting to see her just thriving,
that was a relief.

1050
01:24:02,370 --> 01:24:04,622
And knowing that Roxy and Nikki and Kalihi

1051
01:24:04,706 --> 01:24:08,084
and all these sharks that we grew up with
that are like family to us

1052
01:24:08,168 --> 01:24:09,669
are now officially protected,

1053
01:24:10,378 --> 01:24:11,838
it makes me super happy.

1054
01:24:18,178 --> 01:24:21,014
[music fades]

1055
01:24:21,097 --> 01:24:24,225
[Juan] My mom, she helped me
get into conservation as well.

1056
01:24:25,977 --> 01:24:26,936
What was her thing?

1057
01:24:27,020 --> 01:24:30,732
You're only a limited amount of time
on the planet.

1058
01:24:30,815 --> 01:24:33,651
Let's just try and make it better
than when you found it.

1059
01:24:33,735 --> 01:24:36,321
That was always her thing.
It always stuck with me.

1060
01:24:36,404 --> 01:24:40,492
So I was like, "Oh, yeah, so I got to find
what's my thing that I can do

1061
01:24:40,575 --> 01:24:43,244
to make it a little bit better
than where I found it."

1062
01:24:43,328 --> 01:24:47,165
And I feel like that's with the ocean
and with the sharks for me,

1063
01:24:47,248 --> 01:24:49,125
for sure, 100%. Yeah.

1064
01:24:49,209 --> 01:24:50,543
["Waves" by Dean Lewis plays]

1065
01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:54,297
Yeah. Yes. [chuckles]
That one got me a little teary-eyed.

1066
01:24:54,380 --> 01:24:56,007
Jeez, I'm all emotional today.

1067
01:24:56,091 --> 01:24:58,843
It's the hot--
You guys got it so hot in here.

1068
01:24:58,927 --> 01:25:02,514
♪ There is a swelling storm ♪

1069
01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:08,061
♪ And I'm caught up
In the middle of it all ♪

1070
01:25:10,688 --> 01:25:12,690
♪ There is a light… ♪

1071
01:25:12,774 --> 01:25:17,445
[Keoni] I think it'd be hard to overstate
the significance of what they're doing.

1072
01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:21,616
You could do far worse

1073
01:25:23,284 --> 01:25:24,619
in heroes for your kids.

1074
01:25:26,454 --> 01:25:30,542
♪ It comes and goes in waves ♪

1075
01:25:30,625 --> 01:25:34,879
♪ It always does ♪

1076
01:25:34,963 --> 01:25:37,048
♪ It always does… ♪

1077
01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:40,051
[Ocean] I think people
just want my signature sometimes

1078
01:25:40,135 --> 01:25:44,722
'cause they think that I'm going to die
and then the book will be worth more.

1079
01:25:44,806 --> 01:25:47,392
♪ …flood ♪

1080
01:25:47,475 --> 01:25:50,812
♪ Into the flood ♪

1081
01:25:50,895 --> 01:25:54,399
♪ And the freedom of falling ♪

1082
01:25:54,482 --> 01:25:57,402
♪ The feeling I thought was set in stone ♪

1083
01:25:57,485 --> 01:25:59,988
♪ It slips through my fingers… ♪

1084
01:26:00,071 --> 01:26:04,284
[Ocean] Everything that I've accomplished,
no one would know about it

1085
01:26:04,367 --> 01:26:08,913
without his incredible talent
and skills and eye.

1086
01:26:08,997 --> 01:26:12,876
♪ It comes and goes in waves ♪

1087
01:26:13,459 --> 01:26:15,295
♪ And carries us away ♪

1088
01:26:15,378 --> 01:26:18,339
♪ I've watched my wild youth ♪

1089
01:26:18,423 --> 01:26:19,757
♪ Disappear… ♪

1090
01:26:19,841 --> 01:26:22,343
[reporter] Colin Cook survived
a shark attack.

1091
01:26:22,427 --> 01:26:25,346
It's a big weekend for Cook
because he was back in the water.

1092
01:26:25,930 --> 01:26:29,100
It's a great day to be down here.
It's inspiring to see everybody.

1093
01:26:29,184 --> 01:26:30,310
♪ …back again? ♪

1094
01:26:30,393 --> 01:26:33,563
♪ Is it ever coming back again? ♪

1095
01:26:33,646 --> 01:26:35,607
♪ Take me back to the feeling when… ♪

1096
01:26:35,690 --> 01:26:39,944
[Ocean] I wanna meet more sharks
and explore this beautiful planet.

1097
01:26:40,028 --> 01:26:42,238
While I'd like
to be able to continue that,

1098
01:26:42,322 --> 01:26:44,741
you know, you never know
when you're gonna go.

1099
01:26:46,242 --> 01:26:49,495
But if it happens from a shark,
I'm always big on going on the record of,

1100
01:26:49,579 --> 01:26:53,208
you know, I'm putting myself
in these more extreme situations.

1101
01:26:53,291 --> 01:26:55,126
So definitely don't blame the shark.

1102
01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:57,086
["Waves" continues playing]

1103
01:26:57,170 --> 01:27:00,506
♪ And the freedom of falling ♪

1104
01:27:00,590 --> 01:27:03,551
♪ The feeling I thought was set in stone ♪

1105
01:27:03,635 --> 01:27:06,763
♪ It slips through my fingers ♪

1106
01:27:06,846 --> 01:27:09,140
♪ I'm trying hard to let go ♪

1107
01:27:09,224 --> 01:27:13,478
♪ It comes and goes in waves ♪

1108
01:27:13,561 --> 01:27:15,355
♪ It carries us away ♪

1109
01:27:15,438 --> 01:27:17,440
[song ends]

1110
01:27:18,524 --> 01:27:20,526
[soft music plays]

1111
01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:16,624
[music fades out]