1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07,448 --> 00:00:10,068 [electronic music] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:10,137 --> 00:00:13,758 ♪ MTV ♪ 5 00:00:22,413 --> 00:00:25,482 [rain pattering] 6 00:00:34,068 --> 00:00:36,965 [Eminem's "Stan"] 7 00:00:37,068 --> 00:00:44,068 ♪ ♪ 8 00:01:16,172 --> 00:01:17,827 A lot of people ask me... 9 00:01:17,965 --> 00:01:22,137 ♪ 10 00:01:22,206 --> 00:01:24,862 - Why did you write the song "Stan?" 11 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,310 - Is "Stan" based on a real fan? 12 00:01:28,413 --> 00:01:31,793 - Why do you share so much about yourself in your music? 13 00:01:31,862 --> 00:01:34,827 - What the hell goes on in your brain? 14 00:01:34,965 --> 00:01:37,172 Are you happy? 15 00:01:37,275 --> 00:01:39,482 How's your daughter? 16 00:01:39,551 --> 00:01:41,689 - Who is someone that helped you the same way 17 00:01:41,827 --> 00:01:43,172 that you helped me? 18 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:46,000 - Do you feel like the impact you've had 19 00:01:46,137 --> 00:01:48,517 is what you hoped it would be? 20 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:50,689 - What's it like being famous? 21 00:01:50,827 --> 00:01:52,517 - How much fan mail do you get? 22 00:01:52,655 --> 00:01:56,482 - How does it feel to be followed by so many people? 23 00:01:56,620 --> 00:01:58,344 Have you read my letter? 24 00:01:58,448 --> 00:02:01,344 ♪ ♪ 25 00:02:01,413 --> 00:02:04,586 Is everyone ready? 26 00:02:04,689 --> 00:02:07,344 - All right, Marshall, take one. 27 00:02:07,413 --> 00:02:09,689 What's your first question? 28 00:02:09,793 --> 00:02:12,758 [Eminem's "Bad Guy"] 29 00:02:12,862 --> 00:02:15,379 ♪ ♪ 30 00:02:15,448 --> 00:02:19,689 - ♪ Time you can see the truth ♪ 31 00:02:19,758 --> 00:02:22,413 ♪ But it's easier to justify ♪ 32 00:02:22,517 --> 00:02:25,103 ♪ What's bad is good ♪ 33 00:02:25,241 --> 00:02:28,724 ♪ And I hate to be the bad guy ♪ 34 00:02:28,827 --> 00:02:31,379 [upbeat music] 35 00:02:31,482 --> 00:02:34,586 ♪ I just hate to be the bad guy ♪ 36 00:02:34,689 --> 00:02:36,724 ♪ ♪ 37 00:02:36,827 --> 00:02:40,620 ♪ I just hate to be the bad guy ♪ 38 00:02:49,517 --> 00:02:54,000 - ♪ And I hate to be the bad guy ♪ 39 00:03:14,655 --> 00:03:17,068 - Hi, my name is chicka-chicka Slim-- 40 00:03:17,137 --> 00:03:20,862 [laughs] I wanted to say Zolt Shady. 41 00:03:20,965 --> 00:03:23,827 Hi, my name is chicka-chicka-chicka 42 00:03:23,931 --> 00:03:24,931 Zolt Shady. 43 00:03:25,034 --> 00:03:26,241 Hi, my name is Alex. 44 00:03:26,310 --> 00:03:27,793 Hi, my name is Daniyela. 45 00:03:27,896 --> 00:03:29,310 Hi, my name is Giovanni. 46 00:03:29,448 --> 00:03:30,793 Hi, my name is Brooklyn. 47 00:03:30,896 --> 00:03:32,172 Hi, my name is James. 48 00:03:32,310 --> 00:03:33,275 Hi, my name is Kyle. 49 00:03:33,344 --> 00:03:34,827 - Hi. "My Name Is." 50 00:03:34,965 --> 00:03:36,310 - Well, no, you-- - [laughs] 51 00:03:36,448 --> 00:03:40,275 I'm s--I thought you mean it like the song. 52 00:03:40,344 --> 00:03:43,896 [laughs] Hi, my name is Nikki. 53 00:03:43,965 --> 00:03:46,000 Let me just put my cape on. 54 00:03:48,724 --> 00:03:51,862 I don't even know what these look like on. 55 00:03:51,965 --> 00:03:55,655 [laughs] Too much? 56 00:03:55,793 --> 00:03:58,344 [laughs] It's called the Eminem. 57 00:03:58,482 --> 00:04:00,862 Um, it's based off-- in his music video 58 00:04:00,965 --> 00:04:02,068 "Without Me." 59 00:04:02,206 --> 00:04:07,172 Um, although I did leave my plastic ass at home, 60 00:04:07,241 --> 00:04:10,034 but this is my costume. 61 00:04:10,137 --> 00:04:12,655 - [laughs] This is art. 62 00:04:12,724 --> 00:04:16,034 [laughs] This is crazy. 63 00:04:16,137 --> 00:04:17,827 Early Eminem, Slim Shady. 64 00:04:17,896 --> 00:04:19,896 This is the type of mask that he always wore 65 00:04:20,034 --> 00:04:22,655 in every concert, early 2000s, 66 00:04:22,724 --> 00:04:23,896 everything like that. 67 00:04:24,034 --> 00:04:27,172 - How and why does a white T-shirt become iconic? 68 00:04:27,275 --> 00:04:32,172 - Because, uh, there's a Slim Shady in all of us. 69 00:04:32,241 --> 00:04:33,413 When he wears that shirt, 70 00:04:33,517 --> 00:04:35,137 and when I wear that shirt as well, 71 00:04:35,206 --> 00:04:37,482 it symbolizes unity. 72 00:04:37,551 --> 00:04:41,172 They, um, have an Eminem subreddit, r/eminem, 73 00:04:41,275 --> 00:04:42,862 and I enjoy being there. 74 00:04:42,965 --> 00:04:45,724 It's actually, uh, where I found my people. 75 00:04:45,862 --> 00:04:48,172 - So I follow him on all social medias. 76 00:04:48,241 --> 00:04:50,482 Every social media that he has, that I have, 77 00:04:50,551 --> 00:04:51,689 I will follow him on. 78 00:04:51,793 --> 00:04:54,000 - I, like, followed him every-- 79 00:04:54,068 --> 00:04:55,344 not followed him everywhere, 'cause that 80 00:04:55,413 --> 00:04:57,068 sounds weird and creepy. [laughs] 81 00:04:57,172 --> 00:04:59,344 - You should see what my explore page 82 00:04:59,448 --> 00:05:00,620 on Instagram looks like. 83 00:05:00,724 --> 00:05:02,689 Eminem, Eminem, cute puppies, 84 00:05:02,758 --> 00:05:04,586 Eminem, Eminem, horror movies, 85 00:05:04,689 --> 00:05:06,586 Eminem, Eminem, hairstyles. 86 00:05:06,689 --> 00:05:08,275 Stuff like that. 87 00:05:08,379 --> 00:05:11,586 - I wake up every morning, and it is a habit. 88 00:05:11,724 --> 00:05:13,275 It's a ritualistic routine. 89 00:05:13,379 --> 00:05:15,724 I think I do have an addiction to Eminem. 90 00:05:15,793 --> 00:05:17,620 - Occasionally, like, I'll go into, like, 91 00:05:17,724 --> 00:05:20,758 a YouTube, like, rabbit hole where 92 00:05:20,862 --> 00:05:22,620 I'll, like, watch old performances 93 00:05:22,724 --> 00:05:24,034 or music videos or interviews. 94 00:05:24,103 --> 00:05:26,103 And, like, what people could say in interviews 95 00:05:26,206 --> 00:05:28,344 25 years ago versus what they could say now, like, 96 00:05:28,448 --> 00:05:30,000 half the shit he said was insane. 97 00:05:30,103 --> 00:05:31,241 [hip-hop music] 98 00:05:31,344 --> 00:05:32,655 All right, y'all. 99 00:05:32,758 --> 00:05:33,724 Back here live on the "Rap City" thing. 100 00:05:33,793 --> 00:05:34,758 I'm looking for my man. 101 00:05:34,896 --> 00:05:36,586 My man is not-- 102 00:05:36,724 --> 00:05:37,931 Ow! 103 00:05:38,034 --> 00:05:39,724 Ow! 104 00:05:39,793 --> 00:05:42,827 [sped-up speech] 105 00:05:42,931 --> 00:05:44,586 Yo, cut the cameras, man. 106 00:05:44,724 --> 00:05:45,586 Come on, dog. 107 00:05:45,724 --> 00:05:47,068 Come on. Come on. 108 00:05:47,137 --> 00:05:48,137 - You all right? - Hey! 109 00:05:48,275 --> 00:05:49,448 - One... - Ladies and gentlemen-- 110 00:05:49,551 --> 00:05:50,620 - And a-two, and a-three-- 111 00:05:50,724 --> 00:05:51,655 Insane. 112 00:05:51,758 --> 00:05:53,103 This guy's insane. 113 00:05:53,206 --> 00:05:55,724 - Ladies and gentlemen, introducing Eminem. 114 00:05:55,793 --> 00:05:57,655 [imitates cheering crowd] Y'all give it up for Eminem. 115 00:05:57,758 --> 00:05:59,068 [imitates cheering crowd] 116 00:05:59,137 --> 00:06:00,068 - What's up, dog? - What's up, man? 117 00:06:00,137 --> 00:06:01,517 How you doing? 118 00:06:01,620 --> 00:06:03,448 - That right there, it brought me back so much. 119 00:06:03,517 --> 00:06:06,965 Just the energy that he came in when he was onscreen 120 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:08,482 was a different type of energy. 121 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:10,310 [dramatic music] 122 00:06:10,413 --> 00:06:12,413 - This is an artist called Eminem. 123 00:06:12,482 --> 00:06:13,655 It's spelled funky. 124 00:06:13,758 --> 00:06:14,620 If you're going to pronounce it, 125 00:06:14,724 --> 00:06:16,103 it's like the candy. Eminem. 126 00:06:16,172 --> 00:06:18,448 - I'm keeping it gangster, homie. 127 00:06:18,551 --> 00:06:20,310 I'm keeping it gangster. 128 00:06:20,379 --> 00:06:22,586 I am flexing my bum-bum. 129 00:06:22,655 --> 00:06:24,517 [laughter] 130 00:06:24,620 --> 00:06:25,724 There was a shock factor 131 00:06:25,827 --> 00:06:27,482 when I was first discovering Eminem. 132 00:06:27,551 --> 00:06:30,000 - Here's Eminem doing one of the best Michael Jackson 133 00:06:30,103 --> 00:06:31,379 impersonations I've ever seen. 134 00:06:31,482 --> 00:06:33,103 - He was definitely a loose cannon. 135 00:06:33,172 --> 00:06:34,241 Mom! 136 00:06:34,344 --> 00:06:36,379 No, yes, you did molest me. 137 00:06:36,482 --> 00:06:37,931 - This dude, he's got a good sense of humor, 138 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,448 and he's willing to express his art, you know, 139 00:06:40,517 --> 00:06:41,862 with no boundaries. 140 00:06:41,965 --> 00:06:44,965 - I was 10 years old sitting at home watching MTV 141 00:06:45,034 --> 00:06:47,103 in hopes to see the Backstreet Boys 142 00:06:47,172 --> 00:06:48,862 or NSYNC come on, 143 00:06:48,965 --> 00:06:50,862 but it was Marshall Mathers. 144 00:06:50,965 --> 00:06:53,379 Slim Shady came on with "My Name Is," 145 00:06:53,482 --> 00:06:55,482 and my whole life changed after that. 146 00:06:55,586 --> 00:06:56,586 [Eminem's "My Name Is"] 147 00:06:56,655 --> 00:06:58,827 ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪ 148 00:06:58,931 --> 00:07:00,241 ♪ My name is, who ♪ 149 00:07:00,344 --> 00:07:02,517 ♪ My name is chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪ 150 00:07:02,586 --> 00:07:04,103 ♪ Hi, my name is, huh ♪ 151 00:07:04,241 --> 00:07:05,482 ♪ My name is ♪ 152 00:07:05,586 --> 00:07:08,206 - I was coming home from the police academy, 153 00:07:08,275 --> 00:07:10,689 and I hear, "Hi, my name is." 154 00:07:10,758 --> 00:07:12,448 And I was like, what is this? 155 00:07:12,551 --> 00:07:14,482 And so I listened to it all the way home. 156 00:07:14,586 --> 00:07:16,310 It's not like anything else I've heard before. 157 00:07:16,413 --> 00:07:17,586 I'm in. 158 00:07:17,689 --> 00:07:19,310 - ♪ Chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪ 159 00:07:19,413 --> 00:07:21,482 ♪ Hi, kids, do you like Primus ♪ 160 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:23,551 ♪ Wanna see me stick nine-inch nails ♪ 161 00:07:23,620 --> 00:07:24,931 ♪ Through each one of my eyelids ♪ 162 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,137 - You want to copy me and do exactly what I did? 163 00:07:27,275 --> 00:07:29,517 Try 'cid and get fucked up worse than my life is? 164 00:07:29,586 --> 00:07:31,965 I was like, what? Yeah! 165 00:07:32,103 --> 00:07:33,241 Sign me up. 166 00:07:33,344 --> 00:07:34,724 I'll do it. [laughs] 167 00:07:34,793 --> 00:07:36,137 ♪ My brain's dead weight ♪ 168 00:07:36,241 --> 00:07:37,482 ♪ I'm trying to get my head straight ♪ 169 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:39,275 ♪ But I can't figure out which Spice Girl ♪ 170 00:07:39,379 --> 00:07:40,482 ♪ I want to impregnate ♪ 171 00:07:40,586 --> 00:07:41,758 - Most of these rappers back then, 172 00:07:41,827 --> 00:07:43,931 they want to portray this, I'm from the streets, 173 00:07:44,034 --> 00:07:46,068 I'm a thug, I'm this, don't fuck with me. 174 00:07:46,137 --> 00:07:47,206 He's just being him. 175 00:07:47,275 --> 00:07:48,931 He's just having a grand time. 176 00:07:49,034 --> 00:07:50,724 ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪ 177 00:07:50,793 --> 00:07:52,103 ♪ My name is, who ♪ 178 00:07:52,241 --> 00:07:54,275 ♪ My name is chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪ 179 00:07:54,413 --> 00:07:57,034 - Nobody was making those type of music videos. 180 00:07:57,103 --> 00:07:59,896 Most people were like, half-naked, dancing, 181 00:07:59,965 --> 00:08:01,275 doing, like, these big numbers. 182 00:08:01,344 --> 00:08:03,310 And he had, like, storylines. 183 00:08:03,379 --> 00:08:05,344 - ♪ 99% of my life, I was lied to ♪ 184 00:08:05,482 --> 00:08:08,344 ♪ I just found out my mom does more dope than I do ♪ 185 00:08:08,482 --> 00:08:11,931 - When he started going at these pop culture people, 186 00:08:12,034 --> 00:08:16,275 making fun of them to the T, I'm just like, oh, my God, 187 00:08:16,344 --> 00:08:19,241 dude, this guy really doesn't give a fuck. 188 00:08:19,344 --> 00:08:21,103 I was, like, hypnotized. 189 00:08:21,172 --> 00:08:23,620 Like, my eyes were, like, glued to the screen, 190 00:08:23,689 --> 00:08:29,448 and that kickstarted my obsession with him. 191 00:08:29,517 --> 00:08:33,034 - We be live in Times Square, "Total Request Live," 192 00:08:33,172 --> 00:08:35,172 with the big videos, the most requested ones. 193 00:08:35,275 --> 00:08:36,758 How about a round of applause for Eminem? 194 00:08:36,827 --> 00:08:37,793 Hi. 195 00:08:37,862 --> 00:08:38,896 - Making his-- 196 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,655 "TRL" at the time was new. 197 00:08:40,758 --> 00:08:42,896 It was always our intent to have it be 198 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,551 an exact reflection of our audience. 199 00:08:45,689 --> 00:08:47,137 It was like, what if we gave one hour of this network 200 00:08:47,206 --> 00:08:48,344 to the fans? 201 00:08:48,448 --> 00:08:49,344 And let's ask them what they want. 202 00:08:49,448 --> 00:08:50,344 Let's take their requests. 203 00:08:50,448 --> 00:08:51,827 I was a radio guy, and we did a lot 204 00:08:51,965 --> 00:08:53,137 of, like, requests in radio. 205 00:08:53,206 --> 00:08:54,172 Who did you want to see? 206 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:55,689 Congratulations. 207 00:08:55,793 --> 00:08:57,137 "Slim Shady" is going to number two next week... 208 00:08:57,241 --> 00:08:58,172 - Thank you. - On the charts. 209 00:08:58,275 --> 00:08:59,482 Thank you. 210 00:08:59,551 --> 00:09:00,586 - That deserves a round of applause right there. 211 00:09:00,689 --> 00:09:03,379 - With a little--little bit of help from MTV. 212 00:09:03,448 --> 00:09:05,206 - I've seen fans. I've seen it all. 213 00:09:05,310 --> 00:09:09,068 I've never seen anything like Marshall, Eminem fans, ever. 214 00:09:09,172 --> 00:09:10,482 My name is! 215 00:09:10,586 --> 00:09:12,068 - How they show up, what they look like, 216 00:09:12,172 --> 00:09:15,000 the connection that they have with this artist, 217 00:09:15,068 --> 00:09:16,689 it's really deep. 218 00:09:16,758 --> 00:09:18,000 - The reason why we're here today 219 00:09:18,068 --> 00:09:19,586 is because of his creation of "Stan." 220 00:09:19,689 --> 00:09:21,724 He created a culture that is 221 00:09:21,827 --> 00:09:23,379 so out of the boundary 222 00:09:23,448 --> 00:09:25,413 of regular pop culture 223 00:09:25,517 --> 00:09:27,310 that he made his own term. 224 00:09:27,413 --> 00:09:29,517 - Anything I can grab on Eminem, I'll find. 225 00:09:29,586 --> 00:09:33,068 Over a thousand interviews I've watched, rewatched. 226 00:09:33,172 --> 00:09:35,241 He was the first one where I was like, you know what? 227 00:09:35,344 --> 00:09:36,758 I could marry this guy. [laughs] 228 00:09:36,862 --> 00:09:38,655 - I would say that I'm a stan. 229 00:09:38,758 --> 00:09:41,689 I know three albums back to back lyrically, 230 00:09:41,758 --> 00:09:43,931 every single word of--of everything. 231 00:09:44,068 --> 00:09:47,896 I remember being him for the talent show when I was 232 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,034 11 and dressing up, white T-shirt. 233 00:09:50,137 --> 00:09:51,482 I sprayed my hair yellow. 234 00:09:51,586 --> 00:09:54,275 - When I was five my brother exposed me to his songs, 235 00:09:54,413 --> 00:09:56,724 and I kept listening to it over and over, 236 00:09:56,793 --> 00:09:58,413 and all my friends were like, oh, my God. 237 00:09:58,517 --> 00:10:01,275 Like, girl, you need to calm down. 238 00:10:01,379 --> 00:10:04,103 - I have a book, a specific book that I made. 239 00:10:04,206 --> 00:10:06,379 When I see Eminem, [clicks tongue] 240 00:10:06,448 --> 00:10:07,448 I put it in the book. 241 00:10:11,068 --> 00:10:13,896 - There was a point in time where every single magazine 242 00:10:13,965 --> 00:10:17,551 cover you looked at or saw, no matter where you were, 243 00:10:17,655 --> 00:10:19,034 Marshall was on the cover. 244 00:10:19,103 --> 00:10:21,965 [dramatic music] 245 00:10:22,068 --> 00:10:23,931 ♪ ♪ 246 00:10:24,068 --> 00:10:27,517 - For so many people admiring you that much 247 00:10:27,586 --> 00:10:29,896 and having such a strong reaction to you, 248 00:10:30,034 --> 00:10:32,551 it must have been, like, a high or something. 249 00:10:32,620 --> 00:10:35,655 - And the winner is Eminem, "My Name Is." 250 00:10:35,724 --> 00:10:38,034 I want to thank all the fans 251 00:10:38,103 --> 00:10:39,793 that made "Slim Shady" possible. 252 00:10:39,931 --> 00:10:42,206 - All of a sudden, you're skyrocketed into fame, 253 00:10:42,275 --> 00:10:44,241 and it's everything you've ever wanted, 254 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:45,413 everything you ever dreamed of. 255 00:10:45,551 --> 00:10:48,068 I can't even imagine that. 256 00:10:48,172 --> 00:10:51,724 - Has it ever felt normal in any sense of that word? 257 00:10:51,862 --> 00:10:54,482 - Well, none of this is normal. 258 00:10:54,551 --> 00:10:55,551 None of it's normal. 259 00:10:55,620 --> 00:10:57,620 Once the "Hi, My Name Is" video, 260 00:10:57,758 --> 00:11:02,620 once MTV accepted that and played it, 261 00:11:02,689 --> 00:11:05,655 it was like a fucking switch went off overnight. 262 00:11:05,793 --> 00:11:08,448 And all of a sudden, I woke up the next day from that, 263 00:11:08,517 --> 00:11:12,482 and my entire life was changed forever. 264 00:11:12,620 --> 00:11:15,310 Um, uh, we're gonna go to, uh, my old house, 265 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:16,448 and I'm going to knock on the door 266 00:11:16,551 --> 00:11:17,586 and see if I can get in 267 00:11:17,655 --> 00:11:19,689 'cause I left something in my room. 268 00:11:19,793 --> 00:11:21,137 This is the house. 269 00:11:21,275 --> 00:11:22,931 See back there, that used to be a garage. 270 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,517 One of my longtime friends, DeShaun Holton. 271 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:27,137 He's a rapper too. His name is Proof. 272 00:11:27,275 --> 00:11:28,965 He used to take me up in the lunchroom at Osborn. 273 00:11:29,068 --> 00:11:30,448 What's up, dog? 274 00:11:30,551 --> 00:11:32,758 - I used to battle, like, a lot of kids in the school. 275 00:11:32,827 --> 00:11:34,896 - Proof was Eminem's best friend. 276 00:11:34,965 --> 00:11:37,241 He was there from the beginning. 277 00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:39,275 Proof gave him a lot of the confidence 278 00:11:39,379 --> 00:11:40,517 and a lot of courage. 279 00:11:40,655 --> 00:11:41,586 - The illest story is we used to do 280 00:11:41,655 --> 00:11:43,068 the "White Men Can't Jump" thing. 281 00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:44,482 I used to go in to sneak him-- 282 00:11:44,586 --> 00:11:45,965 I used to sneak him into Osborn, 283 00:11:46,068 --> 00:11:47,655 and everybody would be like, I'll battle you, man. 284 00:11:47,793 --> 00:11:48,793 I'll battle. 285 00:11:48,931 --> 00:11:50,931 I'm like, you ain't can't battle me. 286 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,448 Why don't you battle him? 287 00:11:52,551 --> 00:11:54,137 And they'd be like, oh, the white boy? 288 00:11:54,241 --> 00:11:56,275 [laughs] I'ma kill him! 289 00:11:56,379 --> 00:11:57,551 I'ma kill him! 290 00:11:57,655 --> 00:11:58,965 Then he'd come out busting a rhyme-- 291 00:11:59,068 --> 00:12:00,896 [trilling tongue] 292 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,137 - Everybody and they friends like-- 293 00:12:02,206 --> 00:12:03,482 [laughs] 294 00:12:03,551 --> 00:12:05,931 - One of the reasons I love Eminem's story 295 00:12:06,034 --> 00:12:09,724 is because he didn't set out to become famous. 296 00:12:09,862 --> 00:12:12,172 He loves his art. He loves what he does. 297 00:12:12,241 --> 00:12:13,827 Hello, I'm Slim Shady. 298 00:12:13,896 --> 00:12:16,310 - I don't think he ever could have seen 299 00:12:16,379 --> 00:12:19,000 where it would have gone to. 300 00:12:19,103 --> 00:12:21,310 - I cut class-- don't tell my mother-- 301 00:12:21,379 --> 00:12:22,827 and... [laughs] 302 00:12:22,896 --> 00:12:24,724 And we were sitting in my boy's house, 303 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:28,862 and we had MTV playing, and my boys were just like, 304 00:12:28,965 --> 00:12:30,517 oh, just another white rapper. 305 00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:32,413 And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 306 00:12:32,517 --> 00:12:35,068 I've never heard anybody do it like he did it. 307 00:12:35,206 --> 00:12:36,862 And that's when I started going down that wormhole. 308 00:12:36,965 --> 00:12:38,517 [dial-up modem beeping] 309 00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:40,241 Where did he come from? 310 00:12:40,344 --> 00:12:42,827 Where was his origin story? 311 00:12:42,931 --> 00:12:44,379 ♪ Bus it, what? ♪ 312 00:12:44,482 --> 00:12:46,896 ♪ It's only fair to warn I was born with a set of horns ♪ 313 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,551 ♪ And metaphors attached to my dang umbilical cord ♪ 314 00:12:49,689 --> 00:12:52,517 ♪ Warlord of rap that'll bash you with a 2x4 board ♪ 315 00:12:52,586 --> 00:12:55,379 ♪ And smash into your Honda Accord with a four-door Ford ♪ 316 00:12:55,482 --> 00:12:57,758 [laughter] 317 00:13:00,241 --> 00:13:03,413 ♪ Look, any rapper saying those kind of rhymes ♪ 318 00:13:03,482 --> 00:13:05,965 ♪ In this day and age, in this period of time ♪ 319 00:13:06,068 --> 00:13:08,448 ♪ Trying to battle Eminem is worse than David Starr ♪ 320 00:13:08,586 --> 00:13:11,034 ♪ Trying to battle Proof, Eye-Kyu, B-Fat, and Bizarre ♪ 321 00:13:11,103 --> 00:13:12,448 [laughter] 322 00:13:12,551 --> 00:13:15,137 - When I found out that this is a battle rap rapper, 323 00:13:15,241 --> 00:13:18,551 and rapping all these Black rappers in Detroit? 324 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:19,931 ♪ Look, my face is pale ♪ 325 00:13:20,034 --> 00:13:21,931 ♪ But you look like you seen a ghost ♪ 326 00:13:22,034 --> 00:13:23,275 - I knew this was a matter of time 327 00:13:23,379 --> 00:13:24,793 that this guy was going to make it. 328 00:13:24,931 --> 00:13:26,413 - I've been rhyming a long time, 329 00:13:26,482 --> 00:13:28,448 and battle rap is everything, 330 00:13:28,551 --> 00:13:29,931 you know what I'm saying? 331 00:13:30,034 --> 00:13:35,241 It is the equivalent of being completely vetted in hip-hop, 332 00:13:35,344 --> 00:13:36,379 you know what I'm saying? 333 00:13:36,448 --> 00:13:38,000 Because you learn crowd control, 334 00:13:38,103 --> 00:13:40,448 those lyrical choices, that storytelling. 335 00:13:40,551 --> 00:13:42,793 That's not stuff that you can make up. 336 00:13:42,896 --> 00:13:44,275 You can't fake that. 337 00:13:44,379 --> 00:13:46,655 - Eminem is forged in battle rap. 338 00:13:46,793 --> 00:13:49,379 He's what I call a natural-born killer. 339 00:13:49,448 --> 00:13:51,310 And then he took that to the Rap Olympics, 340 00:13:51,448 --> 00:13:55,068 where all the best rappers battle for number one. 341 00:13:55,137 --> 00:13:57,068 - ♪ I'ma tell you this for your own benefit ♪ 342 00:13:57,172 --> 00:13:58,586 ♪ Your shit was dope as hell ♪ 343 00:13:58,655 --> 00:14:00,103 ♪ Especially when you wrote 90% of it ♪ 344 00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:04,310 The first prize was $500, and I needed that $500, man, 345 00:14:04,379 --> 00:14:05,517 and I lost. 346 00:14:05,620 --> 00:14:07,379 I was fucking devastated. 347 00:14:07,517 --> 00:14:12,000 - For him to lose, he was crushed. 348 00:14:12,137 --> 00:14:14,758 But an intern approached him and said, "Hey, man, 349 00:14:14,827 --> 00:14:16,448 can I have one of your tapes?" 350 00:14:16,517 --> 00:14:18,620 And then he left to go back home to Detroit 351 00:14:18,689 --> 00:14:21,172 to try to continue to make music. 352 00:14:21,310 --> 00:14:24,000 - All of a sudden, we get a call from Jimmy Iovine 353 00:14:24,103 --> 00:14:27,137 and Dre himself saying, "We want to meet with you. 354 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:28,827 We like your tape." 355 00:14:28,965 --> 00:14:30,724 Dr. Dre, to me, 356 00:14:30,827 --> 00:14:33,896 is the greatest producer of our time. 357 00:14:34,034 --> 00:14:36,724 - ♪ You never been on a ride like this before ♪ 358 00:14:36,827 --> 00:14:38,965 ♪ With a producer who can rap and control the micstro ♪ 359 00:14:39,068 --> 00:14:40,172 ♪ At the same time ♪ 360 00:14:40,275 --> 00:14:41,862 The first time I heard Eminem was in, 361 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,103 um, Jimmy's garage, where he used 362 00:14:44,172 --> 00:14:45,620 to have a listening section. 363 00:14:45,689 --> 00:14:47,724 And back then, it was just cassette tapes, 364 00:14:47,862 --> 00:14:49,965 and he popped this one in, and he said, 365 00:14:50,034 --> 00:14:51,310 "What do you think about this?" 366 00:14:51,379 --> 00:14:52,827 And it just happened to be Eminem's demo, 367 00:14:52,965 --> 00:14:54,827 and it had five songs on it, and one of them 368 00:14:54,965 --> 00:14:57,827 was a song called "I Just Don't Give a Fuck." 369 00:14:57,896 --> 00:14:59,931 - ♪ When you see me on your block with two Glocks ♪ 370 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,862 ♪ Screaming fuck the world like Tupac ♪ 371 00:15:01,931 --> 00:15:03,275 ♪ I just don't give a fuck ♪ 372 00:15:03,379 --> 00:15:05,517 - I thought it was just fucking fascinating. 373 00:15:05,586 --> 00:15:08,068 I had no idea that what I was listening to 374 00:15:08,172 --> 00:15:09,551 was a white guy, right? 375 00:15:09,655 --> 00:15:10,862 I had no idea. 376 00:15:10,931 --> 00:15:12,862 I just knew that I wanted to work with him. 377 00:15:12,931 --> 00:15:15,000 Dre was just all in. 378 00:15:15,068 --> 00:15:18,103 And when Dre likes something that much, 379 00:15:18,206 --> 00:15:20,551 we really pay attention, especially me. 380 00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:24,413 So I was kind of like, OK, fly this guy out here. 381 00:15:24,517 --> 00:15:25,862 And when you first met, 382 00:15:25,931 --> 00:15:27,206 what did you think of each other? 383 00:15:27,310 --> 00:15:28,655 - I thought he was Tweety Bird. 384 00:15:28,724 --> 00:15:31,068 [laughter] 385 00:15:31,172 --> 00:15:33,137 - No, 'cause he had this real-- - Fuck you. 386 00:15:33,241 --> 00:15:36,931 - He had this real bright fucking yellow sweat suit on. 387 00:15:37,034 --> 00:15:38,344 - Man, if I hear one more thing 388 00:15:38,413 --> 00:15:40,758 about that goddamn sweat suit. 389 00:15:40,862 --> 00:15:42,896 - Why are you wearing a yellow sash? 390 00:15:43,034 --> 00:15:44,103 The yellow sash. 391 00:15:44,241 --> 00:15:46,862 Um, in honor of Eminem's yellow jumpsuit 392 00:15:46,931 --> 00:15:48,862 the day he met Dre, which I think is just 393 00:15:48,931 --> 00:15:50,655 such a magical moment in itself. 394 00:15:50,758 --> 00:15:53,206 - But he called me a banana when he met me, 395 00:15:53,275 --> 00:15:56,241 so it was on from there. 396 00:15:56,379 --> 00:15:58,827 - Dre has always been pushing the edges. 397 00:15:58,896 --> 00:16:02,000 And this guy starts on the edge, 398 00:16:02,103 --> 00:16:05,931 so it was a--it was a marriage made somewhere. 399 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,517 [laughs] 400 00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:11,448 - Without Dre, I don't know where Eminem would be, 401 00:16:11,517 --> 00:16:15,000 and what shaped him in his earlier life 402 00:16:15,103 --> 00:16:17,620 carries on with him even now. 403 00:16:17,724 --> 00:16:19,137 [line beeps] 404 00:16:19,241 --> 00:16:21,551 - Hey, Em, what's going on? It's Paul. 405 00:16:21,655 --> 00:16:23,137 Uh, listen, if you wanna talk 406 00:16:23,241 --> 00:16:25,275 to those camera crews, go ahead, 407 00:16:25,344 --> 00:16:27,103 just don't say a bunch of dumb shit. 408 00:16:27,172 --> 00:16:28,793 All right, call me back. 409 00:16:28,931 --> 00:16:30,758 [line clicks] 410 00:16:30,862 --> 00:16:33,034 - There's a lot of method to this madness. 411 00:16:33,137 --> 00:16:36,068 I always keep this shit, Entertainer's Secret. 412 00:16:36,137 --> 00:16:38,551 Shh. Don't tell nobody. 413 00:16:38,655 --> 00:16:42,758 Um, it's, uh--actually, Rick Rubin told me about this, 414 00:16:42,827 --> 00:16:45,482 and ever since the day he told me about it, 415 00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:48,827 I've been using it for the past seven years straight. 416 00:16:48,965 --> 00:16:52,034 I use it onstage. It's fucking incredible. 417 00:16:52,137 --> 00:16:56,448 Especially, like, you know, my voice only lasts so long, 418 00:16:56,551 --> 00:16:59,137 especially if I'm doing, like, some, like, 419 00:16:59,275 --> 00:17:00,689 screaming shit or something. 420 00:17:00,793 --> 00:17:04,517 So like, this is the--this is my best friend right here. 421 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:06,655 What's it taste like? 422 00:17:06,758 --> 00:17:08,689 Uh, semen. 423 00:17:08,793 --> 00:17:11,551 Not that I know how that tastes. 424 00:17:11,655 --> 00:17:17,206 But if I were to guess, I would say semen. 425 00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:18,655 I go through pens. 426 00:17:18,724 --> 00:17:20,310 I did go through a couple years 427 00:17:20,379 --> 00:17:23,172 where I was trying to use red ink and blue ink, 428 00:17:23,275 --> 00:17:25,862 different colored inks for different color ideas, 429 00:17:25,931 --> 00:17:27,965 like different ideas and shit, but it didn't work. 430 00:17:28,034 --> 00:17:31,931 I just stuck to the black and just stayed with it. 431 00:17:32,034 --> 00:17:34,655 Every time I write, there's different stages of it, 432 00:17:34,724 --> 00:17:38,206 and that's one of the reasons that I keep a book now 433 00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:39,896 and I never get writer's block. 434 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 ♪ ♪ 435 00:17:43,068 --> 00:17:45,586 I'm always able to go back in my book 436 00:17:45,689 --> 00:17:49,034 and have unlimited ideas. 437 00:17:51,172 --> 00:17:54,379 Sometimes I just write my rhyming words down 438 00:17:54,482 --> 00:17:57,517 and not the stuff in between, so that it can't be 439 00:17:57,586 --> 00:18:00,275 put together if someone finds it. 440 00:18:05,482 --> 00:18:08,724 - To see his lyric sheets, I mean, this is-- 441 00:18:08,793 --> 00:18:10,551 this is magic right here. 442 00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:13,172 If I could own an original piece 443 00:18:13,275 --> 00:18:14,931 I would frame this in my home, 444 00:18:15,034 --> 00:18:16,344 and I'd point it out to any fucking people 445 00:18:16,413 --> 00:18:17,620 that walked in. 446 00:18:17,758 --> 00:18:19,275 I'd make them look at it with me. 447 00:18:19,379 --> 00:18:21,758 I'd make them dissect it under a microscope with me. 448 00:18:21,862 --> 00:18:24,448 I'd make them say, "oh, yo, this song-- 449 00:18:24,551 --> 00:18:25,827 this line went into this song." 450 00:18:25,931 --> 00:18:26,931 I'm looking at something 451 00:18:27,034 --> 00:18:29,068 that resembles my grocery list. 452 00:18:30,413 --> 00:18:31,689 I write like this. 453 00:18:31,758 --> 00:18:32,758 My husband hates it. 454 00:18:32,862 --> 00:18:35,275 I seriously write the same way. 455 00:18:35,379 --> 00:18:37,172 I want to pick this man's brain. 456 00:18:37,275 --> 00:18:39,241 - Like, it's a lot of just, like, scribbles 457 00:18:39,344 --> 00:18:40,275 and, like, thoughts. 458 00:18:40,413 --> 00:18:43,758 But wow, this is-- 459 00:18:43,896 --> 00:18:45,896 yeah. [laughs] 460 00:18:45,965 --> 00:18:48,068 There's--there's a lot of cursing on here. 461 00:18:48,137 --> 00:18:49,241 But I think it says, 462 00:18:49,310 --> 00:18:52,068 "Fuck, I'm sick of duckin' in public." 463 00:18:52,137 --> 00:18:55,103 [soft music] 464 00:18:55,241 --> 00:18:58,034 - When I look at the handwritten lyrics, 465 00:18:58,103 --> 00:19:00,517 I feel like I see a busy brain. 466 00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:05,655 ♪ ♪ 467 00:19:05,758 --> 00:19:09,551 Seeing how he gets the things out of his brain 468 00:19:09,689 --> 00:19:12,965 that way definitely influenced me to get your thoughts out 469 00:19:13,034 --> 00:19:14,103 and making sense of them. 470 00:19:14,172 --> 00:19:15,482 - You know, I have a PhD, but it's not 471 00:19:15,586 --> 00:19:17,551 in typography or whatever. 472 00:19:17,655 --> 00:19:19,137 But it's like, it certainly looks like someone 473 00:19:19,206 --> 00:19:23,206 who is dealing with some intense emotion. 474 00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:25,482 It looks like it was very scribbled down 475 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:27,000 kind of hastily, 476 00:19:27,068 --> 00:19:30,000 and trying to spontaneously capture something. 477 00:19:30,137 --> 00:19:32,344 ♪ 478 00:19:32,482 --> 00:19:35,310 - I think it was, like, a "Rolling Stone" interview. 479 00:19:35,413 --> 00:19:37,517 They asked him if he ever thought about 480 00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:39,724 going to a shrink, and he said he don't need to 481 00:19:39,827 --> 00:19:42,827 'cause his music is his therapy, and honestly, 482 00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:45,172 that's--that's the best therapy there is. 483 00:19:45,275 --> 00:19:47,344 Like, when you have an outlet, something that you're 484 00:19:47,482 --> 00:19:49,931 passionate about, and you use that. 485 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,137 That's the best way. 486 00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:54,724 ♪ 487 00:19:54,862 --> 00:19:58,448 - My childhood certainly wasn't the greatest. 488 00:19:58,517 --> 00:20:02,482 I always took that learning experiences from my childhood 489 00:20:02,551 --> 00:20:04,620 and life lessons and kind of was able 490 00:20:04,689 --> 00:20:08,827 to apply them through my music. 491 00:20:08,896 --> 00:20:11,655 - I definitely find relatability in him 492 00:20:11,724 --> 00:20:14,896 because he's somebody who has written 493 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,310 so honestly about struggling, and I feel like that's why 494 00:20:18,379 --> 00:20:21,206 so many people can relate to him. 495 00:20:21,310 --> 00:20:22,793 - I had the greatest life in the world, 496 00:20:22,896 --> 00:20:24,310 coming from a single-parent home. 497 00:20:24,379 --> 00:20:25,862 You know, my mother never had a job. 498 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,551 I hate to say that, you know. 499 00:20:27,655 --> 00:20:30,724 But, um, it took a toll, man, being bounced around 500 00:20:30,827 --> 00:20:32,448 from school to school to school to school to school, 501 00:20:32,551 --> 00:20:33,793 from state to state. 502 00:20:33,896 --> 00:20:35,827 And friends come over and you don't 503 00:20:35,896 --> 00:20:38,448 want them to see your family's on welfare and shit, 504 00:20:38,517 --> 00:20:40,793 so you hide the cheese and shit like that. 505 00:20:40,896 --> 00:20:42,137 You know, that's real. 506 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,379 I mean, it's funny, but it's not funny, 507 00:20:43,517 --> 00:20:44,689 you know what I mean? 508 00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:46,275 It's like I look back on it like, damn, 509 00:20:46,344 --> 00:20:48,172 that's fucked up, you know, but-- 510 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:51,827 - My mom and I had a pretty unstable relationship 511 00:20:51,896 --> 00:20:54,724 growing up, and there was a lot of struggles 512 00:20:54,827 --> 00:20:57,827 with finances 'cause it was just the two of us. 513 00:20:57,896 --> 00:21:00,310 I also came out as a transgender man, 514 00:21:00,379 --> 00:21:02,413 and transness, or even queerness, 515 00:21:02,482 --> 00:21:06,586 was not a conversation in the area I grew up in. 516 00:21:06,689 --> 00:21:11,482 Being born female, it was a very isolating, like, 517 00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:15,551 feeling to not really know anyone else 518 00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:17,103 who I could relate to. 519 00:21:17,206 --> 00:21:22,827 His struggles with bullying also lined up with mine. 520 00:21:22,965 --> 00:21:25,241 There was a lot of moments where I didn't make-- 521 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:29,551 like, I wasn't sure if I would make it out on the other side. 522 00:21:29,620 --> 00:21:32,413 - Eminem was bullied relentlessly 523 00:21:32,482 --> 00:21:34,172 in elementary school. 524 00:21:34,275 --> 00:21:37,862 And it's horribly tragic to me because even now 525 00:21:37,931 --> 00:21:39,344 I carry some of the traumas 526 00:21:39,448 --> 00:21:43,896 of my own life from being bullied, 527 00:21:43,965 --> 00:21:46,931 and I can feel that in some of the music he's written. 528 00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:48,965 - So in the song "Brain Damage," 529 00:21:49,103 --> 00:21:53,344 Eminem or Marshall is getting bullied at school. 530 00:21:53,448 --> 00:21:56,241 [Eminem's "Brain Damage"] 531 00:21:56,379 --> 00:22:03,517 ♪ 532 00:22:14,793 --> 00:22:17,000 - You know, bleeding on the carpet 533 00:22:17,068 --> 00:22:20,137 and then having your parent being like, look at you, 534 00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,172 you're getting blood all over my rugs-- 535 00:22:22,275 --> 00:22:24,137 I felt that. 536 00:22:24,206 --> 00:22:26,241 Growing up, I would get into fights. 537 00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:29,310 I'd get into fights a good amount. 538 00:22:29,379 --> 00:22:32,379 I'd get bullied from other kids 539 00:22:32,482 --> 00:22:35,241 calling me a faggot for wearing tight pants 540 00:22:35,344 --> 00:22:37,551 because I was a skater kid. 541 00:22:37,655 --> 00:22:39,586 Going into my room, and then putting on 542 00:22:39,689 --> 00:22:43,827 a song like "Brain Damage," that's what helped me. 543 00:22:43,931 --> 00:22:45,379 - It was sophomore year, and I went to go 544 00:22:45,517 --> 00:22:47,655 to a Super Bowl party with my friends. 545 00:22:47,758 --> 00:22:49,172 We were watching the Super Bowl, 546 00:22:49,275 --> 00:22:50,275 and I had my hands in my head-- 547 00:22:50,344 --> 00:22:52,344 my head in my hands like this, 548 00:22:52,448 --> 00:22:54,965 sitting on the ground with my stomach on the ground, 549 00:22:55,068 --> 00:22:56,620 looking up at the TV. 550 00:22:56,689 --> 00:23:00,379 And a kid on the couch spilled his iced tea 551 00:23:00,517 --> 00:23:03,586 and went, "Oh, I know what I can use to pick that up with," 552 00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:05,241 and grabbed his other friend. 553 00:23:05,379 --> 00:23:07,068 They picked me up by my feet and used my hair as a mop 554 00:23:07,206 --> 00:23:11,275 and then threw me on the ground, and I was-- 555 00:23:11,379 --> 00:23:15,206 these were supposed to be my friends. 556 00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:18,586 It made me sometimes not want to go to school, 557 00:23:18,689 --> 00:23:23,103 but I went because I had Marshall's music. 558 00:23:23,241 --> 00:23:24,758 [bell rings] 559 00:23:24,862 --> 00:23:26,379 I would put my CD player on 560 00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:29,758 and just walk through the hallways. 561 00:23:29,862 --> 00:23:31,862 He inspired me to write. 562 00:23:31,931 --> 00:23:33,827 I write poetry. 563 00:23:33,965 --> 00:23:38,068 I loved how he could just bend the English language, 564 00:23:38,137 --> 00:23:40,758 use different words to rhyme off other words 565 00:23:40,862 --> 00:23:43,103 that necessarily wouldn't rhyme, 566 00:23:43,241 --> 00:23:46,586 like orange, door hinge, syringe. 567 00:23:46,689 --> 00:23:50,448 That's great. [laughs] 568 00:23:50,551 --> 00:23:55,448 His music made me feel like I wasn't alone in this world, 569 00:23:55,586 --> 00:23:57,586 with what I was going through. 570 00:23:57,689 --> 00:23:59,448 [somber music] 571 00:23:59,551 --> 00:24:01,448 - Hip-hop was the most important thing 572 00:24:01,517 --> 00:24:03,482 that empowered me as a kid. 573 00:24:03,551 --> 00:24:06,000 It made me feel tough when I wasn't. 574 00:24:06,103 --> 00:24:09,172 I was a scrawny little kid growing up on 8 Mile, 575 00:24:09,275 --> 00:24:12,310 walking up the fucking block, put headphones on, 576 00:24:12,379 --> 00:24:15,655 and it made me feel powerful. 577 00:24:15,724 --> 00:24:18,551 Hip-hop, it taught me how to throw my first punch, 578 00:24:18,689 --> 00:24:21,172 gave me the confidence. It was like my dad. 579 00:24:21,275 --> 00:24:23,482 And it was the only thing that made me empowered. 580 00:24:23,586 --> 00:24:25,137 It made me feel good about myself. 581 00:24:25,206 --> 00:24:26,827 And when I started being able to write rhymes 582 00:24:26,931 --> 00:24:28,862 and figured out I could do it, 583 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,862 that's where the feeling comes from. 584 00:24:32,965 --> 00:24:36,344 - As a teenager, I definitely had a lot of anger. 585 00:24:36,448 --> 00:24:39,586 I haven't met my father in person since I was probably, 586 00:24:39,655 --> 00:24:42,724 like, one or two or something. 587 00:24:42,862 --> 00:24:45,000 But I never had anybody that I could relate to 588 00:24:45,103 --> 00:24:48,137 in that regard growing up. 589 00:24:48,206 --> 00:24:49,758 Whenever he would talk about his father too, 590 00:24:49,827 --> 00:24:51,827 he always sounded so angry. 591 00:24:51,965 --> 00:24:54,689 So I always gravitated more towards 592 00:24:54,793 --> 00:24:56,758 the angrier-sounding Eminem, 593 00:24:56,827 --> 00:24:59,310 and Slim Shady was his alter ego 594 00:24:59,379 --> 00:25:00,689 and split personality for that. 595 00:25:00,827 --> 00:25:03,620 - Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers. 596 00:25:03,724 --> 00:25:05,931 Could you briefly tell us where one stops, 597 00:25:06,034 --> 00:25:07,241 the other one begins, and the difference 598 00:25:07,379 --> 00:25:08,896 between the three different characters? 599 00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:12,517 - Marshall Mathers stops when the Bacardi kicks in, 600 00:25:12,620 --> 00:25:14,206 and then it's Slim Shady. 601 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:16,275 - Marshall is the human being where 602 00:25:16,379 --> 00:25:21,103 the heart and the human experience come from. 603 00:25:21,206 --> 00:25:24,827 Eminem is the artist through which Slim Shady 604 00:25:24,896 --> 00:25:26,482 and Marshall are channeled. 605 00:25:26,586 --> 00:25:28,551 That's where you see the skill and the talent. 606 00:25:28,620 --> 00:25:32,275 And then Slim Shady is this cartoon character. 607 00:25:32,413 --> 00:25:35,620 - Slim is, uh, the jokester, the hey, 608 00:25:35,724 --> 00:25:37,103 I'm here for a good time. 609 00:25:37,241 --> 00:25:39,206 A crazy son of a bitch... 610 00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:42,206 [laughs] Um, that I love. 611 00:25:42,275 --> 00:25:45,241 - He has, like, this I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude. 612 00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:47,551 - He's like a psycho, but in a good way. 613 00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:49,965 Uh, says whatever the fuck he wants to say. 614 00:25:50,103 --> 00:25:53,206 He'll probably kill if you look at him the wrong way. 615 00:25:53,275 --> 00:25:54,517 I'm putting the mask on. 616 00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,206 I'm like, I can be me. 617 00:25:56,275 --> 00:25:57,413 I can say what I want. 618 00:25:57,517 --> 00:25:59,758 I can flip a fucking desk if I needed to. 619 00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:01,758 Even though he was just being himself, 620 00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:03,000 people didn't like that. 621 00:26:03,137 --> 00:26:04,793 People did not like that at all. 622 00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:05,931 - I mean, let's just say the least, 623 00:26:06,034 --> 00:26:07,517 it was a trying time. 624 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:11,310 We were criticized enormously for putting his music out. 625 00:26:11,413 --> 00:26:14,758 - That controversy was covered extensively by the media. 626 00:26:14,827 --> 00:26:16,241 - While Black rappers often get a pass 627 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:17,517 on lyrical nihilism, 628 00:26:17,620 --> 00:26:19,448 Eminem, who's white, has been taking 629 00:26:19,517 --> 00:26:22,482 some intense critical heat for his jokey, hard-nosed rhymes. 630 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:24,448 - In Eminem's songs, women are portrayed 631 00:26:24,517 --> 00:26:27,275 as little more than strippers, 632 00:26:27,379 --> 00:26:30,172 punching bags, and sperm receptacles. 633 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:32,172 - It's so sad to see those parents dropping 634 00:26:32,275 --> 00:26:33,793 their children off and saying, 635 00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:35,482 I don't know what the lyrics are all about. 636 00:26:35,586 --> 00:26:38,482 [Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons, 'Spring'" 637 00:26:38,586 --> 00:26:43,103 ♪ ♪ 638 00:26:43,172 --> 00:26:45,137 - Perhaps one of the most interesting words 639 00:26:45,275 --> 00:26:49,137 in the English language today is the word "fuck." 640 00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:50,448 Out of all of the English words 641 00:26:50,517 --> 00:26:52,655 that begin with the letter F, 642 00:26:52,758 --> 00:26:56,103 "fuck" is the only word that is referred to as the F-word. 643 00:26:56,206 --> 00:27:00,413 It's the one magical word, just by its sound, 644 00:27:00,482 --> 00:27:04,206 can describe pain, pleasure, hate, and love. 645 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:08,517 In English, fuck falls into many grammatical categories. 646 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:11,000 As a transitive verb, for instance: 647 00:27:11,068 --> 00:27:13,000 "John fucked Shirley." 648 00:27:13,068 --> 00:27:15,034 As an intransitive verb: 649 00:27:15,172 --> 00:27:16,689 "Shirley fucks." 650 00:27:16,758 --> 00:27:18,000 It can be used as an adjective, 651 00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:21,689 such as, "John's doing all the fucking work." 652 00:27:21,793 --> 00:27:23,482 As part of an adverb: 653 00:27:23,551 --> 00:27:26,000 "Shirley talks too fucking much." 654 00:27:26,103 --> 00:27:27,517 As a noun: 655 00:27:27,620 --> 00:27:29,517 "I don't give a fuck." 656 00:27:29,586 --> 00:27:32,000 With all of these multipurpose applications, 657 00:27:32,068 --> 00:27:35,275 how can anyone be offended when you use the word? 658 00:27:35,379 --> 00:27:38,551 Say it loudly and proudly. 659 00:27:38,655 --> 00:27:42,206 Fuck you! 660 00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:43,655 - You rap about raping and killing women, 661 00:27:43,724 --> 00:27:45,068 but you really don't do that, do you, Eminem? 662 00:27:45,172 --> 00:27:46,517 - Yes. - You do rape and kill women? 663 00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:47,551 Yes. 664 00:27:47,655 --> 00:27:49,172 - Uh, are you amazed at the, uh, 665 00:27:49,241 --> 00:27:50,862 the firestorm that has begun, and are you afraid 666 00:27:50,965 --> 00:27:52,413 it could be a career-destroyer? 667 00:27:52,517 --> 00:27:54,379 - Um, I'm not worried about it because anybody 668 00:27:54,482 --> 00:27:56,000 with half a brain is going to be able to tell 669 00:27:56,068 --> 00:27:57,896 when I'm joking and when I'm serious. 670 00:27:58,034 --> 00:28:00,103 With the first album, "The Slim Shady LP," 671 00:28:00,206 --> 00:28:02,448 all of a sudden, now it's important. 672 00:28:02,551 --> 00:28:05,103 What I have to say is important. 673 00:28:05,206 --> 00:28:09,896 I remember one of the first times signing autographs, 674 00:28:09,965 --> 00:28:12,000 there'd be, like, a line out the door, 675 00:28:12,137 --> 00:28:15,103 and somebody would be like, yo, I just want you to know, 676 00:28:15,206 --> 00:28:18,206 man, you helped me so much for--for this or for that. 677 00:28:18,275 --> 00:28:19,517 So now I'm like... 678 00:28:19,586 --> 00:28:20,827 What's your name? 679 00:28:20,931 --> 00:28:22,655 Writing a long paragraph for them and shit, 680 00:28:22,758 --> 00:28:24,655 and signing their name, and people are like, yo, 681 00:28:24,758 --> 00:28:25,931 can you speed it up a little bit? 682 00:28:26,034 --> 00:28:27,034 'Cause we're not going to get to everybody. 683 00:28:27,103 --> 00:28:28,068 - Hello. - Can I have a hug? 684 00:28:28,137 --> 00:28:29,448 How you doing? 685 00:28:29,551 --> 00:28:31,724 I was living inside it when it was all new to me 686 00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:33,793 and I still didn't understand it. 687 00:28:33,896 --> 00:28:36,620 - You know, this guy has been somebody 688 00:28:36,724 --> 00:28:38,758 that I've been trying to meet for a long time, 689 00:28:38,862 --> 00:28:43,068 and he's not easy to get close to. 690 00:28:43,137 --> 00:28:46,482 Since I was 14, I had this fandom in me 691 00:28:46,620 --> 00:28:48,344 that I wanted to, like, express, 692 00:28:48,448 --> 00:28:50,275 and I just didn't know how to. 693 00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:55,965 I remember the first portrait tattoo that I got, 694 00:28:56,103 --> 00:28:59,448 being really anxious about the pain. 695 00:28:59,586 --> 00:29:05,137 It's like a scratch, quite a sharp scratch, 696 00:29:05,206 --> 00:29:06,965 and it depends kind of 697 00:29:07,034 --> 00:29:08,448 what it is that you're having done. 698 00:29:08,517 --> 00:29:10,862 Like, the lines are the worst because it's 699 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,275 being dragged against your skin. 700 00:29:13,344 --> 00:29:15,482 But I fell in love with the process 701 00:29:15,551 --> 00:29:17,862 of tattooing that day. 702 00:29:17,965 --> 00:29:21,241 I've kind of described it as, I walked in one person 703 00:29:21,344 --> 00:29:24,689 and left a different person. 704 00:29:24,827 --> 00:29:28,241 And then it kind of snowballed after that. 705 00:29:28,344 --> 00:29:30,689 In 2020, I set the Guinness World Record 706 00:29:30,827 --> 00:29:34,517 for having the most tattoos of the same musician. 707 00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:37,724 It has become my identity. 708 00:29:37,862 --> 00:29:41,344 Now that I've got the ink, I feel like 709 00:29:41,482 --> 00:29:44,000 I've got to have a possibility of meeting him. 710 00:29:44,103 --> 00:29:45,862 [flashbulbs bursting] 711 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,517 - The first time I met Marshall was 712 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:49,310 for the "Rolling Stone" cover. 713 00:29:49,413 --> 00:29:52,448 I was just shown into, like, a conference room, 714 00:29:52,517 --> 00:29:54,310 and no one else was in there. 715 00:29:54,413 --> 00:29:56,413 And I sort of asked the security guy to let me in. 716 00:29:56,517 --> 00:29:58,172 Like, just, hey, is Marshall around? 717 00:29:58,275 --> 00:29:59,862 I just want to say hi, and all that stuff. 718 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,965 So he pointed to a door that I didn't 719 00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:04,000 realize was the bathroom. 720 00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:08,000 And, uh, and I opened it up, and I heard him puking. 721 00:30:08,103 --> 00:30:09,172 [toilet flushes] 722 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:10,620 He came out of the stall. 723 00:30:10,724 --> 00:30:12,310 I was like, uh, hi, Marshall, 724 00:30:12,413 --> 00:30:13,448 it's really nice to meet you. 725 00:30:13,517 --> 00:30:14,655 Put my hand out. 726 00:30:14,724 --> 00:30:15,758 I'm Anthony from "Rolling Stone," 727 00:30:15,827 --> 00:30:17,827 like, super dork. 728 00:30:17,931 --> 00:30:20,000 And he just looked at me and, like, burped... 729 00:30:20,103 --> 00:30:21,137 [belching sound effect] 730 00:30:21,206 --> 00:30:22,310 And, like, walked out. 731 00:30:22,448 --> 00:30:25,172 [hip-hop music] 732 00:30:25,241 --> 00:30:28,482 One of the three venues we went to that first night was, 733 00:30:28,551 --> 00:30:31,206 like, a 16-year-old's birthday party. 734 00:30:31,344 --> 00:30:33,344 You know, it was basically Beatlemania. 735 00:30:33,448 --> 00:30:36,517 They were grabbing at him, pulling at his shirt. 736 00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:38,862 The police were there to, like, make sure 737 00:30:38,965 --> 00:30:40,379 that the limo got in and out. 738 00:30:40,517 --> 00:30:42,034 There were girls, like, putting their boobs 739 00:30:42,172 --> 00:30:43,620 on the glass of the car. 740 00:30:43,689 --> 00:30:45,620 I remember him saying, like, you're pretty cute. 741 00:30:45,689 --> 00:30:48,827 I love you too, but I'm not going to jail. 742 00:30:48,965 --> 00:30:51,379 The night went from, you know, then until 743 00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:53,172 about 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning. 744 00:30:53,275 --> 00:30:54,379 And for the whole time, 745 00:30:54,517 --> 00:30:56,068 he didn't speak a word to me at all. 746 00:30:56,172 --> 00:30:58,137 ♪ ♪ 747 00:30:58,241 --> 00:31:02,275 - So I've got my little circle of family and friends, 748 00:31:02,379 --> 00:31:04,034 people that I've basically grown up with, 749 00:31:04,103 --> 00:31:05,551 because I feel like, at this point, 750 00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:08,068 anybody that I meet after this only knows me 751 00:31:08,172 --> 00:31:11,689 for Eminem or Slim Shady and doesn't know Marshall. 752 00:31:11,758 --> 00:31:13,724 So that's why I keep those friends around, 753 00:31:13,827 --> 00:31:15,448 'cause I know that those are the people that 754 00:31:15,586 --> 00:31:18,000 really care about me for me. 755 00:31:18,068 --> 00:31:20,344 - I think it was a defense against, like, 756 00:31:20,413 --> 00:31:22,724 the attention, the fame. Just survival. 757 00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:24,241 Just trying to, like, take it in 758 00:31:24,344 --> 00:31:25,620 and figure out what the hell's happening, 759 00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:27,137 'cause it happened so fast. 760 00:31:27,241 --> 00:31:29,758 [plane whooshing] 761 00:31:29,862 --> 00:31:31,241 ♪ ♪ 762 00:31:31,379 --> 00:31:33,137 - So you show it to Eminem? - Oh, yeah. 763 00:31:33,241 --> 00:31:34,172 - Yeah? - Yes. 764 00:31:34,241 --> 00:31:35,482 - Hello, Eminem. [laughter] 765 00:31:35,551 --> 00:31:39,068 [cheering] 766 00:31:39,172 --> 00:31:40,448 [chainsaw buzzing] 767 00:31:40,586 --> 00:31:43,448 - It's really an eye-opener to see how crazy 768 00:31:43,551 --> 00:31:45,310 some people do get for Eminem. 769 00:31:45,413 --> 00:31:47,896 I travel the world for him. 770 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,896 [cheering] 771 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,413 Nobody here. 772 00:31:51,517 --> 00:31:53,103 Just me and the camera. 773 00:31:53,206 --> 00:31:54,758 Oh, no. 774 00:31:54,862 --> 00:31:57,896 - Well, one of these have to be the jet for the day. 775 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,758 Want that one? Or even that one. 776 00:31:59,896 --> 00:32:01,931 - Paul's telling me to put on my fucking seat belt, 777 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,620 like if the plane crashes, it's gonna help. 778 00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:08,586 - I've seen Eminem in concert about 30-something times. 779 00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:10,517 15 different cities 780 00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:12,758 in six, seven different countries. 781 00:32:12,827 --> 00:32:14,103 I'm a parrot. 782 00:32:14,206 --> 00:32:16,965 I'm an embarrassed parrot in Paris. 783 00:32:17,103 --> 00:32:18,344 - Oh, Eminem! - Eminem! 784 00:32:18,448 --> 00:32:20,068 Eminem! 785 00:32:20,137 --> 00:32:23,482 - I made this costume because I wanted to wear 786 00:32:23,586 --> 00:32:27,000 something very eye-catching. 787 00:32:27,103 --> 00:32:29,965 They actually put me on camera 788 00:32:30,068 --> 00:32:31,482 throughout the stadium, 789 00:32:31,586 --> 00:32:33,931 and some random man put me on his shoulders 790 00:32:34,034 --> 00:32:35,965 to, like, showcase it. 791 00:32:36,034 --> 00:32:38,689 I was hoping, of course, he's gonna see my costume, 792 00:32:38,793 --> 00:32:40,310 and he's gonna think it's so cool, 793 00:32:40,413 --> 00:32:42,206 and he's gonna invite me on stage and meet me. 794 00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:44,310 - I was asking Paul today, I was like, uh, 795 00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:45,724 why do people want to talk to me? 796 00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:47,827 And he was like, you rap well, 797 00:32:47,965 --> 00:32:49,793 you say a lot of personal shit, 798 00:32:49,862 --> 00:32:50,931 and your music and your life is like 799 00:32:51,034 --> 00:32:53,620 the fucking "Jerry Springer Show." 800 00:32:53,724 --> 00:32:55,068 - "I didn't really start doing drugs 801 00:32:55,137 --> 00:32:56,655 "until I rapped about them. 802 00:32:56,758 --> 00:32:58,758 "When I was on tour rapping about Vicodin 803 00:32:58,827 --> 00:33:00,448 "or mushrooms or ecstasy, 804 00:33:00,517 --> 00:33:02,482 people started throwing that shit my way." 805 00:33:02,551 --> 00:33:03,655 - "I couldn't believe the effect 806 00:33:03,724 --> 00:33:05,172 "my lyrics had on people. 807 00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:07,344 They thought we were literally drug addicts..." 808 00:33:07,448 --> 00:33:08,724 - "And that they could get backstage 809 00:33:08,827 --> 00:33:10,034 "and bring us substances. 810 00:33:10,137 --> 00:33:11,310 "It was wild. 811 00:33:11,379 --> 00:33:13,241 Welcome to rock and roll." 812 00:33:13,344 --> 00:33:16,344 [cheering, chanting] 813 00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:19,482 - Yo, they were so loud, we couldn't rap 814 00:33:19,586 --> 00:33:20,862 for, like, 10 minutes. 815 00:33:20,965 --> 00:33:22,206 - Just seeing, like, how he was living 816 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:23,655 and the breakneck pace, 817 00:33:23,724 --> 00:33:26,172 instant stardom, instant fandom, 818 00:33:26,241 --> 00:33:27,517 and people starting to get obsessed. 819 00:33:27,620 --> 00:33:29,724 What the fuck? 820 00:33:29,862 --> 00:33:31,000 - I was just rooting for him to, like-- 821 00:33:31,068 --> 00:33:32,310 to hang on for the rocket ride. 822 00:33:32,379 --> 00:33:34,000 England, we're out of here. 823 00:33:34,068 --> 00:33:35,517 We love you. Thank you. 824 00:33:35,655 --> 00:33:37,517 Peace. 825 00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:42,379 - Were you prepared for how much the fans 826 00:33:42,482 --> 00:33:44,034 would connect with you? 827 00:33:44,172 --> 00:33:49,517 - What I put out was very much, um, 828 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:52,896 raw and, like, just real, 829 00:33:53,034 --> 00:33:56,965 as far as situations in my life and how I came up 830 00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:58,000 and shit like that. 831 00:33:58,103 --> 00:34:01,586 And I think that that's maybe one 832 00:34:01,655 --> 00:34:05,931 of the things that made some people 833 00:34:06,068 --> 00:34:07,689 feel like they could relate. 834 00:34:07,793 --> 00:34:11,103 It was a weird, strange kind of adjustment, 835 00:34:11,206 --> 00:34:15,965 and my personality wasn't well-equipped to handle that. 836 00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:16,931 [pulsating music] 837 00:34:17,034 --> 00:34:18,310 "FANatic." 838 00:34:18,448 --> 00:34:19,862 - I've never gotten into any music 839 00:34:19,931 --> 00:34:21,551 like I've gotten into Eminem's lyrics. 840 00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:25,482 Like, once I started listening to him, I couldn't stop. 841 00:34:25,586 --> 00:34:27,551 We are at the restaurant that Eminem worked at 842 00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:29,103 before he made it big. 843 00:34:29,206 --> 00:34:31,379 - Around the time Marshall's really starting to blow up, 844 00:34:31,448 --> 00:34:32,931 there's a million channels. 845 00:34:33,068 --> 00:34:34,310 You know, the Internet starts picking up. 846 00:34:34,448 --> 00:34:36,275 - This is where Eminem spent most of his time. 847 00:34:36,379 --> 00:34:37,793 - [gasps] This is the phone Eminem touched. 848 00:34:37,931 --> 00:34:40,965 - Content is just at its infancy of becoming king. 849 00:34:41,068 --> 00:34:43,172 From a media standpoint, you are really 850 00:34:43,275 --> 00:34:45,517 now into the minutia of what it takes 851 00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:47,172 to hold on to an audience. 852 00:34:47,275 --> 00:34:49,172 And what that came down to for us, really, 853 00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:52,172 was like, the fan experience, we gotta go even more. 854 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:54,000 - What was your best subject in school? 855 00:34:54,137 --> 00:34:55,655 Oh, my God, none. 856 00:34:55,758 --> 00:34:57,517 Maybe English. I was all right at English. 857 00:34:57,620 --> 00:34:58,965 Everything else I was horrible at. 858 00:34:59,068 --> 00:35:00,586 I was the worst. 859 00:35:00,655 --> 00:35:03,172 - Fans just had such an insatiable appetite 860 00:35:03,241 --> 00:35:04,551 for more and more access 861 00:35:04,689 --> 00:35:05,965 to the artists that they loved. 862 00:35:06,034 --> 00:35:07,689 I mean, now you're really opening the floodgates 863 00:35:07,793 --> 00:35:09,000 for people who see that 864 00:35:09,068 --> 00:35:10,241 to live vicariously through that moment 865 00:35:10,344 --> 00:35:12,068 and go, "Well, that's all it takes. 866 00:35:12,206 --> 00:35:14,034 "I'm just going to jump on a plane to Detroit 867 00:35:14,172 --> 00:35:16,448 "and go find 8 Mile and walk around, 868 00:35:16,551 --> 00:35:18,482 "and I can just have the experience 869 00:35:18,586 --> 00:35:19,482 that they just showed me." 870 00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:21,551 I was in my early 20s 871 00:35:21,655 --> 00:35:23,724 when I started working at Gilbert's. 872 00:35:23,862 --> 00:35:25,862 And I knew Eminem worked there, obviously, 873 00:35:25,931 --> 00:35:29,172 so I was like, fuck it, I'll go work where Eminem worked. 874 00:35:29,275 --> 00:35:30,689 Like, I always wanted to, 875 00:35:30,827 --> 00:35:33,517 so one more thing closer to Eminem. 876 00:35:33,586 --> 00:35:35,896 And I stayed at that bitch for-- 877 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,655 for, like, 10 years, 878 00:35:37,724 --> 00:35:39,724 'cause I'm like, he's going to come in. 879 00:35:41,241 --> 00:35:42,172 That's crazy. 880 00:35:42,241 --> 00:35:44,172 The whole neighborhood's gone now. 881 00:35:44,241 --> 00:35:47,689 Me and Proof used to climb this tree all the time. 882 00:35:47,793 --> 00:35:49,827 And we would sit up in the tree, 883 00:35:49,931 --> 00:35:51,379 and he would always climb higher than me 884 00:35:51,517 --> 00:35:52,655 'cause he wasn't afraid of heights. 885 00:35:52,724 --> 00:35:53,827 I was. 886 00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:56,413 Um, and we would just sit there 887 00:35:56,551 --> 00:35:58,931 and talk about, like, what we was going to do 888 00:35:59,034 --> 00:36:00,896 once we made it as rappers. 889 00:36:00,965 --> 00:36:03,206 [dog barking] 890 00:36:03,275 --> 00:36:06,206 We shot here when the house had been condemned, 891 00:36:06,275 --> 00:36:07,896 but it wasn't burnt down yet. 892 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,965 And, like, I don't know if you've ever 893 00:36:10,068 --> 00:36:12,931 been to, like, a house, go back when you were a kid-- 894 00:36:13,034 --> 00:36:15,655 everything seems smaller. 895 00:36:15,793 --> 00:36:18,241 Bro, that motherfucker was like, here to here, 896 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:20,034 you could touch the living room walls. 897 00:36:20,103 --> 00:36:21,758 We tried to buy it, and the city 898 00:36:21,862 --> 00:36:23,068 had already condemned it. 899 00:36:23,172 --> 00:36:27,103 So they wouldn't sell it to us. 900 00:36:27,206 --> 00:36:29,413 - Did it ever occur to you that fans would 901 00:36:29,482 --> 00:36:31,862 come here and make a pilgrimage? 902 00:36:31,931 --> 00:36:34,137 It's cool that people care, 903 00:36:34,275 --> 00:36:39,551 but it's also weird, still, 'cause you're like, 904 00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:41,448 but it's me, you know what I'm saying? 905 00:36:41,551 --> 00:36:43,655 Like, why? 906 00:36:43,758 --> 00:36:46,172 It's really not that big of a deal. 907 00:36:46,275 --> 00:36:48,620 When Em was blowing up, 908 00:36:48,724 --> 00:36:51,758 there was lots of kids with white T-shirts 909 00:36:51,862 --> 00:36:53,275 and bleach blonde hair. 910 00:36:53,379 --> 00:36:55,586 But again, this might be by Em's own doing. 911 00:36:55,655 --> 00:36:58,931 I mean, the videos, the imagery that he put out, 912 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,172 it's this million-white-boy army behind me, you know? 913 00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:04,344 Like, I am you. 914 00:37:04,448 --> 00:37:05,655 [Eminem's "The Real Slim Shady"] 915 00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:08,862 - ♪ May I have your attention, please ♪ 916 00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:12,551 ♪ Will the real Slim Shady please stand up ♪ 917 00:37:12,655 --> 00:37:16,482 ♪ I repeat, will the real Slim Shady please stand up ♪ 918 00:37:16,586 --> 00:37:18,655 ♪ ♪ 919 00:37:18,724 --> 00:37:23,103 - I was at the MTV Awards when Marshall came out 920 00:37:23,172 --> 00:37:24,862 and that gang of fucking dudes 921 00:37:24,965 --> 00:37:26,551 followed him up on stage. 922 00:37:26,655 --> 00:37:28,517 Everyone around me kind of fucking locked in, 923 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:30,310 like, what is-- what's going on right now? 924 00:37:30,413 --> 00:37:31,275 Who the fuck is that guy? 925 00:37:31,344 --> 00:37:33,827 It was hands-down like, yeah. 926 00:37:33,931 --> 00:37:36,068 Like, that dude right there, he's--he's-- 927 00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:38,827 he's fucking-- he's cooler than me. 928 00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:40,689 - When Eminem came on the scene 929 00:37:40,793 --> 00:37:43,206 and when they seen the bleach blonde hair, 930 00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:45,827 it kind of infected the whole world. 931 00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:48,379 - So many kids were dyeing their hair yellow, 932 00:37:48,482 --> 00:37:50,310 dressing in, you know, baggy clothes. 933 00:37:50,413 --> 00:37:51,689 And I saw it. 934 00:37:51,793 --> 00:37:53,827 So, you know, I had guy friends that were like, oh, 935 00:37:53,931 --> 00:37:55,206 I'm Slim Shady, you know? 936 00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:56,482 And I'm just like, no, you're not. 937 00:37:59,172 --> 00:38:01,000 It was who they were now. 938 00:38:01,068 --> 00:38:02,724 It wasn't like, hey, I'm going to go down to Times Square. 939 00:38:02,793 --> 00:38:04,241 I'm gonna--you know, I'm gonna pay homage 940 00:38:04,344 --> 00:38:05,448 to Em and, you know, do my thing. 941 00:38:05,551 --> 00:38:07,310 It was like, I'm becoming him. 942 00:38:19,517 --> 00:38:22,103 Nine years old, you know? 943 00:38:22,206 --> 00:38:24,965 One day I wanted to-- to make my hair blonde. 944 00:38:57,413 --> 00:39:00,103 You feel like a real Shady. 945 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:08,551 Every people who look at you, they-- 946 00:39:08,655 --> 00:39:13,793 they know what is about, you know, Shady, man. 947 00:39:16,172 --> 00:39:20,034 - Eminem is absolutely like an unwilling cult leader. 948 00:39:20,172 --> 00:39:24,172 He's someone who did not want to take up that position 949 00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:27,620 but has been, to no fault of his own, 950 00:39:27,724 --> 00:39:29,310 kind of thrust into it. 951 00:39:29,413 --> 00:39:31,000 - Eminem, ladies and gentlemen. 952 00:39:31,137 --> 00:39:35,448 [cheering] 953 00:39:35,586 --> 00:39:36,655 - Big day. - Right. 954 00:39:36,758 --> 00:39:37,965 - New album is out. - A really big day. 955 00:39:38,103 --> 00:39:39,103 - Yeah. - Really big day. 956 00:39:39,172 --> 00:39:40,413 "Mathers LP" is out. 957 00:39:40,482 --> 00:39:41,793 Now, that's your real name. 958 00:39:41,896 --> 00:39:42,965 - Is, uh--does that mean... - It's my real name. 959 00:39:43,068 --> 00:39:44,137 - That this is sort of more of, like, 960 00:39:44,241 --> 00:39:46,275 reflective of who you are? Or, uh-- 961 00:39:46,379 --> 00:39:47,689 I think so. 962 00:39:47,793 --> 00:39:50,137 I think I got kind of personal on this album, 963 00:39:50,241 --> 00:39:51,724 and just basically I just wanted 964 00:39:51,827 --> 00:39:53,827 to let people know that this is--this is the real me. 965 00:39:53,931 --> 00:39:55,517 This is all jokes aside, you know what I'm saying? 966 00:39:55,655 --> 00:39:57,275 There's a lot of songs on the album that 967 00:39:57,344 --> 00:39:58,931 are like that, that are like, you know, 968 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,241 more serious than the first album. 969 00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:01,620 Right. 970 00:40:01,689 --> 00:40:02,586 Actually, we're listening to it right now, 971 00:40:02,689 --> 00:40:03,862 a track called "Stan." 972 00:40:03,965 --> 00:40:04,931 It's the third track on the album. 973 00:40:05,034 --> 00:40:05,896 What's--what's all this about? 974 00:40:05,965 --> 00:40:07,379 Explain this to me. 975 00:40:07,482 --> 00:40:09,620 - Um, basically, it's just about crazy fan mail 976 00:40:09,758 --> 00:40:11,344 that I get from people. 977 00:40:11,448 --> 00:40:14,448 And it's about, like, a kid who is really sick, 978 00:40:14,517 --> 00:40:15,689 you know what I'm saying? 979 00:40:15,827 --> 00:40:18,103 And--and takes everything that I say literally. 980 00:40:18,172 --> 00:40:20,758 What inspired me to write "Stan" first 981 00:40:20,827 --> 00:40:23,241 was when I got the beat 982 00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:25,103 and it had the Dido sample in it. 983 00:40:25,206 --> 00:40:27,275 "But your picture on my wall reminds me 984 00:40:27,379 --> 00:40:28,655 that it's not so bad." 985 00:40:28,793 --> 00:40:31,344 I felt like, that is-- 986 00:40:31,448 --> 00:40:35,103 that line right there, that's LL Cool J to me. 987 00:40:35,206 --> 00:40:38,448 Like, LL Cool J was one of the rappers 988 00:40:38,551 --> 00:40:41,586 who helped get me through so much childhood shit. 989 00:40:41,655 --> 00:40:43,758 I kept thinking, like, oh, my God, 990 00:40:43,827 --> 00:40:46,206 am I LL Cool J to somebody else? 991 00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:47,931 Instantly, I was like, yo, this has 992 00:40:48,034 --> 00:40:49,862 got to be about, like, an obsessed fan 993 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,655 who's taking my shit too literal, and slow down. 994 00:40:53,758 --> 00:40:55,482 I'm not--I'm just Marshall. 995 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:56,931 [thunder rumbling, rain pattering] 996 00:40:57,034 --> 00:41:00,448 Like, I'm not your fucking savior. 997 00:41:00,517 --> 00:41:04,034 [thunder crashes] 998 00:41:04,172 --> 00:41:08,586 ♪ 999 00:41:08,689 --> 00:41:11,965 [thunder rumbling, crashing] 1000 00:41:21,275 --> 00:41:22,448 Let me in! 1001 00:41:22,517 --> 00:41:24,241 [knocking] 1002 00:41:24,344 --> 00:41:25,827 What? 1003 00:41:25,896 --> 00:41:27,724 - Stanley, what are you doing to yourself? 1004 00:41:27,827 --> 00:41:29,862 - What, the hair? You don't like it? 1005 00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:31,482 - Stanley! - You like it? 1006 00:41:31,586 --> 00:41:33,000 - Stanley! Don't-- 1007 00:41:33,103 --> 00:41:36,310 Don't call me that, OK? 1008 00:41:36,379 --> 00:41:37,448 Don't call me that. 1009 00:41:37,551 --> 00:41:38,965 - Don't you think you're taking this too far? 1010 00:41:39,034 --> 00:41:40,275 - Stanley. - Here. 1011 00:41:40,344 --> 00:41:41,620 Stanley! 1012 00:41:41,689 --> 00:41:42,724 I was listening to the lyrics. 1013 00:41:42,862 --> 00:41:44,103 I was just like, this is amazing. 1014 00:41:44,206 --> 00:41:45,862 I mean, I just think his lyrics on that song 1015 00:41:45,965 --> 00:41:47,379 are absolutely brilliant, you know? 1016 00:41:47,517 --> 00:41:50,310 He's, to me, the ultimate storyteller. 1017 00:41:50,379 --> 00:41:51,965 [Eminem's "Stan"] 1018 00:41:52,034 --> 00:41:54,448 ♪ And I can't see at all ♪ 1019 00:41:54,551 --> 00:41:58,068 ♪ Even if I could, it'd all be gray ♪ 1020 00:41:58,206 --> 00:42:00,379 ♪ But your picture on my wall ♪ 1021 00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:04,241 ♪ It reminds me that it's not so bad ♪ 1022 00:42:04,344 --> 00:42:06,103 ♪ It's not so bad ♪ 1023 00:42:06,172 --> 00:42:08,724 - ♪ Dear Slim, I wrote you, but you still ain't calling ♪ 1024 00:42:08,793 --> 00:42:10,724 ♪ I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone ♪ 1025 00:42:10,793 --> 00:42:11,931 ♪ At the bottom ♪ 1026 00:42:12,068 --> 00:42:13,448 ♪ I sent two letters back in autumn ♪ 1027 00:42:13,551 --> 00:42:14,793 ♪ You must not have got 'em ♪ 1028 00:42:14,931 --> 00:42:16,206 ♪ There probably was a problem ♪ 1029 00:42:16,275 --> 00:42:17,620 ♪ At the post office or something ♪ 1030 00:42:17,724 --> 00:42:19,068 ♪ Sometimes I scribble addresses ♪ 1031 00:42:19,137 --> 00:42:20,413 ♪ Too sloppy when I jot 'em ♪ 1032 00:42:20,517 --> 00:42:22,689 ♪ But anyways, fuck it, what's been up, man ♪ 1033 00:42:22,758 --> 00:42:23,896 ♪ How's your daughter ♪ 1034 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,068 ♪ My girlfriend's pregnant too ♪ 1035 00:42:25,137 --> 00:42:26,517 ♪ I'm 'bout to be a father ♪ 1036 00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:28,413 ♪ If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her ♪ 1037 00:42:28,482 --> 00:42:30,000 ♪ I'ma name her Bonnie ♪ 1038 00:42:30,103 --> 00:42:32,448 ♪ I read about your Uncle Ronnie too, I'm sorry ♪ 1039 00:42:32,586 --> 00:42:34,551 ♪ I had a friend kill himself over some bitch ♪ 1040 00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:35,931 ♪ Who didn't want him ♪ 1041 00:42:36,034 --> 00:42:37,793 ♪ I know you probably hear this every day ♪ 1042 00:42:37,931 --> 00:42:39,517 ♪ But I'm your biggest fan ♪ 1043 00:42:39,620 --> 00:42:41,862 ♪ I even got the underground shit that you did with Skam ♪ 1044 00:42:41,931 --> 00:42:43,620 ♪ I got a room full of your posters ♪ 1045 00:42:43,758 --> 00:42:45,068 ♪ And your pictures, man ♪ 1046 00:42:45,172 --> 00:42:46,758 ♪ I like the shit you did with Rawkus too ♪ 1047 00:42:46,896 --> 00:42:48,206 ♪ That shit was phat ♪ 1048 00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:49,965 ♪ Anyways, I hope you get this, man ♪ 1049 00:42:50,103 --> 00:42:51,448 ♪ Hit me back just to chat ♪ 1050 00:42:51,551 --> 00:42:53,172 ♪ Truly yours, your biggest fan ♪ 1051 00:42:53,275 --> 00:42:54,448 ♪ This is Stan ♪ 1052 00:42:54,586 --> 00:42:57,896 - ♪ My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why ♪ 1053 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,793 - I used to write him all the time. 1054 00:42:59,931 --> 00:43:01,931 I was like, hi, I'm your biggest fan. 1055 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,034 I love you so much. 1056 00:43:04,172 --> 00:43:06,517 - [laughs] When I was like, 12, yeah. 1057 00:43:06,620 --> 00:43:08,068 Yeah, I wrote him a letter. 1058 00:43:08,172 --> 00:43:11,206 And then later on, I would write and be like, 1059 00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:13,241 your music is saving my life. 1060 00:43:13,344 --> 00:43:15,000 Thank you for everything. 1061 00:43:15,103 --> 00:43:17,724 - I actually took a few hours writing all the things 1062 00:43:17,862 --> 00:43:22,344 I wanted to, but I thought it was, I don't know, 1063 00:43:22,482 --> 00:43:24,310 like too much like "Stan." 1064 00:43:24,379 --> 00:43:27,758 - I wrote one email about 10 years ago. 1065 00:43:27,827 --> 00:43:29,034 I haven't heard nothing back, 1066 00:43:29,137 --> 00:43:30,482 but I'm still got my fingers crossed. 1067 00:43:30,551 --> 00:43:32,482 It's only been 10 years. We good. 1068 00:43:32,586 --> 00:43:34,689 - ♪ Dear Slim, you still ain't called or wrote ♪ 1069 00:43:34,793 --> 00:43:35,689 ♪ I hope you have a chance ♪ 1070 00:43:35,793 --> 00:43:37,172 ♪ I ain't mad ♪ 1071 00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:38,965 ♪ I just think it's fucked up you don't answer fans ♪ 1072 00:43:39,034 --> 00:43:40,344 ♪ If you didn't want to talk to me ♪ 1073 00:43:40,448 --> 00:43:42,344 ♪ Outside the concert, you didn't have to ♪ 1074 00:43:42,448 --> 00:43:44,482 ♪ But you could have signed an autograph for Matthew ♪ 1075 00:43:44,586 --> 00:43:45,551 ♪ That's my little brother, man ♪ 1076 00:43:45,655 --> 00:43:47,000 ♪ He's only six years old ♪ 1077 00:43:47,103 --> 00:43:49,068 ♪ We waited in the blistering cold for you ♪ 1078 00:43:49,172 --> 00:43:51,000 ♪ For four hours and you just said no ♪ 1079 00:43:51,137 --> 00:43:52,310 ♪ That's pretty shitty, man ♪ 1080 00:43:52,379 --> 00:43:53,827 ♪ You're like his fucking idol ♪ 1081 00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:55,103 ♪ He wants to be just like you, man ♪ 1082 00:43:55,172 --> 00:43:56,655 ♪ He likes you more than I do ♪ 1083 00:43:56,758 --> 00:44:01,103 - Stan, he's a really, really, really hardcore fan of Eminem, 1084 00:44:01,206 --> 00:44:02,724 and he believes he's in, like, 1085 00:44:02,793 --> 00:44:06,241 a parasocial relationship with Eminem. 1086 00:44:06,344 --> 00:44:09,448 - Parasocial relationship is a one-way 1087 00:44:09,551 --> 00:44:13,034 mediated relationship where it's like, there is Eminem. 1088 00:44:13,137 --> 00:44:14,551 He's on stage performing. 1089 00:44:14,655 --> 00:44:16,034 He's in music videos. 1090 00:44:16,103 --> 00:44:19,517 And you start to feel like you know this person. 1091 00:44:19,586 --> 00:44:21,241 ♪ Bad ♪ 1092 00:44:21,344 --> 00:44:23,862 - Over time, parasocial relationships, 1093 00:44:23,931 --> 00:44:27,724 they increase in psychological intensity. 1094 00:44:27,793 --> 00:44:30,724 They can develop into what's called identification. 1095 00:44:30,827 --> 00:44:33,206 You become so absorbed, 1096 00:44:33,275 --> 00:44:36,241 you start to take on his attitudes 1097 00:44:36,344 --> 00:44:37,793 and beliefs and behaviors. 1098 00:44:37,931 --> 00:44:40,000 - ♪ I can relate to what you're saying in your songs ♪ 1099 00:44:40,068 --> 00:44:41,344 ♪ So when I have a shitty day ♪ 1100 00:44:41,413 --> 00:44:43,034 ♪ I drift away and put 'em on ♪ 1101 00:44:43,103 --> 00:44:44,275 ♪ Because I don't ♪ 1102 00:44:44,413 --> 00:44:46,344 - After that you get to what's called worship-- 1103 00:44:46,413 --> 00:44:49,068 - ♪ I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest ♪ 1104 00:44:49,172 --> 00:44:51,068 - Is when you treat the media persona 1105 00:44:51,172 --> 00:44:52,896 like a godlike figure. 1106 00:44:53,034 --> 00:44:54,689 It is the less healthy place 1107 00:44:54,758 --> 00:44:56,344 you want to be on the spectrum. 1108 00:44:56,413 --> 00:44:58,000 - ♪ See, everything you say is real ♪ 1109 00:44:58,068 --> 00:44:59,862 ♪ And I respect you 'cause you tell it ♪ 1110 00:44:59,931 --> 00:45:02,689 ♪ My girlfriend's jealous 'cause I talk about you 24/7 ♪ 1111 00:45:02,793 --> 00:45:04,000 I mean, I could relate. 1112 00:45:04,137 --> 00:45:05,517 I was like, yeah, that happens. 1113 00:45:05,655 --> 00:45:07,793 Really awesome fans that can get, 1114 00:45:07,896 --> 00:45:10,137 you know--you're like their best friend, 1115 00:45:10,275 --> 00:45:11,517 and you don't even know it. 1116 00:45:11,655 --> 00:45:12,758 ♪ Sincerely yours, Stan ♪ 1117 00:45:12,827 --> 00:45:14,758 ♪ PS, we should be together too ♪ 1118 00:45:14,827 --> 00:45:17,758 - ♪ My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why ♪ 1119 00:45:17,827 --> 00:45:20,000 - The connotations from the song 1120 00:45:20,137 --> 00:45:23,310 are somebody that is a crazy fan. 1121 00:45:23,413 --> 00:45:25,965 It's probably how a lot of people see me, 1122 00:45:26,068 --> 00:45:28,310 I would imagine. 1123 00:45:28,413 --> 00:45:30,931 - ♪ Dear Mr. I'm Too Good to Call or Write My Fans ♪ 1124 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000 ♪ This will be the last package I ever send your ass ♪ 1125 00:45:34,103 --> 00:45:35,586 ♪ It's been six months and still no word ♪ 1126 00:45:35,689 --> 00:45:37,103 ♪ I don't deserve it ♪ 1127 00:45:37,172 --> 00:45:38,793 ♪ I know you got my last two letters ♪ 1128 00:45:38,862 --> 00:45:40,103 ♪ I wrote the addresses on 'em perfect ♪ 1129 00:45:40,206 --> 00:45:42,137 - Reaching out, reaching out, and no answer. 1130 00:45:42,241 --> 00:45:46,310 I could see how that could affect someone. 1131 00:45:46,448 --> 00:45:48,310 - ♪ Hey, Slim, I drank a fifth of vodka ♪ 1132 00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:49,931 ♪ You dare me to drive ♪ 1133 00:45:50,034 --> 00:45:51,068 ♪ You know that song by Phil Collins ♪ 1134 00:45:51,137 --> 00:45:52,275 That's extreme. 1135 00:45:52,344 --> 00:45:55,103 But then at the same time, I was so someone 1136 00:45:55,172 --> 00:45:56,827 that was like, well, why isn't one of my-- 1137 00:45:56,931 --> 00:45:58,517 why isn't it one of my letters he's reading? 1138 00:45:58,655 --> 00:45:59,827 ♪ That's kinda how this is ♪ 1139 00:45:59,965 --> 00:46:01,172 ♪ You could have rescued me from drowning ♪ 1140 00:46:01,241 --> 00:46:02,931 - It was one of those moments where 1141 00:46:03,034 --> 00:46:05,689 I had to look in the mirror and be like, wow, 1142 00:46:05,793 --> 00:46:07,655 am I one of these crazy stans? 1143 00:46:07,724 --> 00:46:09,241 ♪ Well, gotta go ♪ 1144 00:46:09,344 --> 00:46:10,344 ♪ I'm almost at the bridge now ♪ 1145 00:46:10,448 --> 00:46:11,724 ♪ Oh, shit, I forgot ♪ 1146 00:46:11,862 --> 00:46:13,620 ♪ How am I supposed to send this shit out ♪ 1147 00:46:13,689 --> 00:46:16,689 [tires screeching, screaming] 1148 00:46:24,965 --> 00:46:27,068 I was shocked. 1149 00:46:27,172 --> 00:46:30,413 I mean, my first reaction was, did this actually happen? 1150 00:46:30,517 --> 00:46:32,310 - I don't think he's a real person, 1151 00:46:32,379 --> 00:46:34,551 but it's definitely possible that there's 1152 00:46:34,655 --> 00:46:36,310 somebody out there like that. 1153 00:46:36,379 --> 00:46:39,172 [somber music] 1154 00:46:39,310 --> 00:46:45,206 ♪ 1155 00:46:45,310 --> 00:46:47,034 - I think there are people out there that have 1156 00:46:47,172 --> 00:46:52,034 that type of mental obsession over another person, 1157 00:46:52,103 --> 00:46:55,137 and I believe that it does come from a real place. 1158 00:46:55,206 --> 00:46:57,689 Whether it is exaggerated or not 1159 00:46:57,758 --> 00:46:59,551 is all depending on the creator. 1160 00:46:59,655 --> 00:47:05,000 ♪ ♪ 1161 00:47:05,103 --> 00:47:08,965 But I believe it is coming from a real place. 1162 00:47:09,103 --> 00:47:13,793 - If it wasn't a real person who actually did do that... 1163 00:47:13,896 --> 00:47:17,931 ♪ ♪ 1164 00:47:18,068 --> 00:47:22,586 It's a message to all of his fame. 1165 00:47:22,689 --> 00:47:25,724 [engine rumbling] 1166 00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:30,413 [vehicle rumbles] 1167 00:47:32,551 --> 00:47:33,793 Hi. 1168 00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:47,862 But the word "Stan" changed with the time. 1169 00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:52,931 Stan, in 2024, it's being crazy of something. 1170 00:47:53,068 --> 00:47:55,793 Like, very, very crazy. 1171 00:47:55,896 --> 00:47:57,931 Like, really, really crazy. 1172 00:48:12,931 --> 00:48:14,931 I never killed my wife. 1173 00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:19,000 I've never been crazy like him. 1174 00:48:20,172 --> 00:48:23,517 I don't have a wife, by the way, but I'm just saying. 1175 00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:32,448 Well, so-- 1176 00:48:32,517 --> 00:48:34,448 OK, so you guys think this about me. 1177 00:48:34,551 --> 00:48:36,000 That's fine. 1178 00:48:38,827 --> 00:48:40,448 Not because I don't want to, 1179 00:48:40,551 --> 00:48:44,517 but because it was too big to me. 1180 00:48:44,586 --> 00:48:48,068 I had and I still have a dream, 1181 00:48:48,172 --> 00:48:52,241 is to travel and discover Detroit. 1182 00:48:52,344 --> 00:48:58,344 Because I grew up with Eminem, so I wanted to-- 1183 00:48:58,448 --> 00:49:03,103 to know and to understand where Eminem came from. 1184 00:49:03,206 --> 00:49:09,068 So my family thought that 1185 00:49:09,172 --> 00:49:10,793 that was all bullshit, 1186 00:49:10,896 --> 00:49:13,206 that I spent my money for nothing. 1187 00:49:13,275 --> 00:49:15,620 But you know, when you're passionate about something, 1188 00:49:15,724 --> 00:49:19,206 just do your dream. 1189 00:49:19,275 --> 00:49:20,862 That's it. 1190 00:49:20,931 --> 00:49:23,655 [indistinct chatter] 1191 00:49:57,310 --> 00:49:58,586 [Eminem's "Rap God"] 1192 00:49:58,689 --> 00:50:01,448 - ♪ I'm beginning to feel like a rap god, rap god ♪ 1193 00:50:14,724 --> 00:50:16,379 - How do you know Eminem's not here? 1194 00:50:27,586 --> 00:50:30,620 [playing tune on keyboard] 1195 00:50:54,103 --> 00:50:56,758 Because I was back in Paris 1196 00:50:56,896 --> 00:50:58,931 after a beautiful week in Detroit. 1197 00:50:59,068 --> 00:51:00,586 I cried. 1198 00:51:16,137 --> 00:51:20,793 ♪ ♪ 1199 00:51:20,862 --> 00:51:24,206 - If "Stan" sort of showed mainstream people 1200 00:51:24,310 --> 00:51:27,586 who didn't understand how powerful a rap song could be, 1201 00:51:27,655 --> 00:51:29,137 if "Stan" did that to them... 1202 00:51:29,241 --> 00:51:31,172 [cheers and applause] 1203 00:51:31,310 --> 00:51:33,137 [pensive music] 1204 00:51:33,241 --> 00:51:37,310 Then "8 Mile" did that on a much more mainstream scale 1205 00:51:37,379 --> 00:51:39,655 across all swaths of culture. 1206 00:51:39,793 --> 00:51:45,172 ♪ 1207 00:51:45,275 --> 00:51:46,448 [banging] 1208 00:51:46,517 --> 00:51:48,793 He was a global phenomenon. 1209 00:51:48,896 --> 00:51:50,310 How are you feeling? 1210 00:51:50,379 --> 00:51:52,482 - I feel good. - You feel good? 1211 00:51:52,586 --> 00:51:53,482 Yeah. 1212 00:51:53,586 --> 00:51:55,896 [tense music] 1213 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,137 - All right, next up is my boy Bunny Rabbit. 1214 00:51:58,206 --> 00:51:59,517 [crowd booing] 1215 00:51:59,655 --> 00:52:01,862 He's a genius, man, a motherfucking genius. 1216 00:52:01,931 --> 00:52:02,827 DJ, kick it. 1217 00:52:02,896 --> 00:52:05,620 [scratching record] 1218 00:52:05,758 --> 00:52:07,482 all: Choke, choke, choke, choke, choke, 1219 00:52:07,586 --> 00:52:09,931 choke, choke, choke, choke! 1220 00:52:10,034 --> 00:52:12,413 - I believe what they did with "8 Mile" was amazing, 1221 00:52:12,551 --> 00:52:14,103 the way that they loosely based 1222 00:52:14,206 --> 00:52:17,344 a lot of things on his life. 1223 00:52:17,413 --> 00:52:19,413 And it wasn't full full-fledged, 1224 00:52:19,517 --> 00:52:21,310 this is what happened, but-- 1225 00:52:21,413 --> 00:52:23,931 so it keeps me excited because my imagination 1226 00:52:24,034 --> 00:52:25,896 starts going like, all right, so what was real? 1227 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,896 What wasn't real? 1228 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,689 Is that story true or not? 1229 00:52:28,758 --> 00:52:30,344 Did that really happen when they were in the parking lot 1230 00:52:30,413 --> 00:52:32,275 in the shelter? 1231 00:52:32,379 --> 00:52:35,068 - Yo, that's like one of the best movies of all time, 1232 00:52:35,172 --> 00:52:37,689 if you're a rapper, 'cause it wasn't over the top. 1233 00:52:37,758 --> 00:52:39,413 It seemed like real-world shit, 1234 00:52:39,517 --> 00:52:41,241 going through it with his mom. 1235 00:52:41,344 --> 00:52:42,379 - What are you doing with your life 1236 00:52:42,482 --> 00:52:44,448 that's so great, Rabbit? 1237 00:52:44,551 --> 00:52:45,931 - Freestyling in the car with Proof. 1238 00:52:46,068 --> 00:52:48,379 ♪ A 1928 Delta ♪ 1239 00:52:48,448 --> 00:52:51,000 ♪ This shit won't even get me to the shelter ♪ 1240 00:52:51,068 --> 00:52:52,172 - Breaking up with his girlfriend, 1241 00:52:52,241 --> 00:52:53,379 all this extra shit. 1242 00:52:53,448 --> 00:52:54,344 Like, that was real-world shit. 1243 00:52:54,413 --> 00:52:56,034 [blows raspberry] 1244 00:52:56,137 --> 00:52:59,620 - Him showing a glimpse into what he went through 1245 00:52:59,758 --> 00:53:02,655 right before he got famous, it showed the world 1246 00:53:02,758 --> 00:53:06,862 that it's like, hey, I come from this background, 1247 00:53:06,965 --> 00:53:08,965 but it doesn't define me. 1248 00:53:09,068 --> 00:53:10,448 [grunts] 1249 00:53:10,551 --> 00:53:13,827 - It is who I am, but I am so much more than that. 1250 00:53:13,931 --> 00:53:15,689 In my mind, we're connected. 1251 00:53:15,827 --> 00:53:17,586 In one way or another, in this universe, 1252 00:53:17,655 --> 00:53:18,724 there's a connection. 1253 00:53:18,793 --> 00:53:20,482 Yo, you--you're me. 1254 00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:21,793 You're a regular dude. 1255 00:53:21,862 --> 00:53:23,931 This is not lights, camera, action. 1256 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,482 This is Marshall Mathers, and I followed the story. 1257 00:53:27,620 --> 00:53:29,448 And most parts, I lived the story. 1258 00:53:29,517 --> 00:53:32,172 - It enhanced my fandom of him because 1259 00:53:32,310 --> 00:53:35,103 I just saw how relatable he was. 1260 00:53:35,206 --> 00:53:37,724 And I didn't have, like, a male figure in my family 1261 00:53:37,827 --> 00:53:40,931 or, you know, in my household to look up to, 1262 00:53:41,034 --> 00:53:44,137 and I really looked up to him. 1263 00:53:44,206 --> 00:53:48,793 - "8 Mile" did the most to explain Eminem to the world. 1264 00:53:48,862 --> 00:53:51,586 There were all these critics who were anti-Eminem. 1265 00:53:51,655 --> 00:53:53,344 Maureen Dowd, one of them at "The New York Times," 1266 00:53:53,482 --> 00:53:55,000 she had a bunch of columns, you know, 1267 00:53:55,137 --> 00:53:57,241 saying he was a misogynist and all the other things 1268 00:53:57,310 --> 00:53:58,758 that he was controversial for. 1269 00:53:58,827 --> 00:54:01,620 And then after "8 Mile," she had a column 1270 00:54:01,724 --> 00:54:05,137 about having a crush on him and talking about him 1271 00:54:05,206 --> 00:54:06,586 with other soccer mommies 1272 00:54:06,724 --> 00:54:08,241 and listening to him at the gym. 1273 00:54:08,379 --> 00:54:10,689 It explains him to a wider audience, 1274 00:54:10,827 --> 00:54:13,206 contextualizes him, but it also 1275 00:54:13,310 --> 00:54:15,172 is myth-making, for sure. 1276 00:54:15,275 --> 00:54:17,241 And I think that to the fans that 1277 00:54:17,344 --> 00:54:19,586 aren't able to separate the man from the myth, 1278 00:54:19,689 --> 00:54:21,551 this might as well be a documentary. 1279 00:54:21,655 --> 00:54:23,241 - My first guest is a young man who is 1280 00:54:23,379 --> 00:54:25,586 on top of all of his games. 1281 00:54:25,724 --> 00:54:27,241 He's got the number-one song in the country, 1282 00:54:27,379 --> 00:54:28,862 the number-one album in the country, 1283 00:54:28,965 --> 00:54:31,482 and soon, the number-one movie in the country. 1284 00:54:31,586 --> 00:54:33,620 Give it up for Eminem. 1285 00:54:33,689 --> 00:54:36,206 [cheering] 1286 00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:39,068 And then it's such chaos out there that unfortunately 1287 00:54:39,172 --> 00:54:41,172 we're going to have to shut the shades, 1288 00:54:41,275 --> 00:54:43,689 but it's a real sight to be seen. 1289 00:54:43,827 --> 00:54:45,689 In the history of MTV, I have never 1290 00:54:45,827 --> 00:54:47,413 seen anything quite like it. 1291 00:54:47,517 --> 00:54:48,758 - I remember being in the theater 1292 00:54:48,862 --> 00:54:50,862 that first night watching that, going, "Fuck, man. 1293 00:54:50,931 --> 00:54:53,172 "Now, that's an opening weekend for a fucking guy 1294 00:54:53,241 --> 00:54:54,586 who's not a movie star." 1295 00:54:54,724 --> 00:54:58,310 He just became a movie star like that. 1296 00:54:58,379 --> 00:54:59,517 The movie is out. 1297 00:54:59,586 --> 00:55:01,241 - How you feeling? - Good. 1298 00:55:01,379 --> 00:55:02,344 Yeah? 1299 00:55:02,448 --> 00:55:04,241 You're a little overwhelmed? 1300 00:55:04,310 --> 00:55:06,241 - A lot overwhelmed, but, um... 1301 00:55:06,344 --> 00:55:09,379 [cheers and applause] 1302 00:55:12,275 --> 00:55:13,620 Proud too. 1303 00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:15,068 - I'm proud too, you know? - Yeah. 1304 00:55:15,137 --> 00:55:16,379 - I'm proud and I'm-- I'm happy. 1305 00:55:16,482 --> 00:55:17,724 I'm excited. 1306 00:55:17,793 --> 00:55:19,137 You know, if it wasn't for these fans, 1307 00:55:19,241 --> 00:55:20,793 I wouldn't have got to this level 1308 00:55:20,931 --> 00:55:24,241 to be enabled to do my own movies and things like that, 1309 00:55:24,344 --> 00:55:27,310 and have this kind of power and this kind of control, 1310 00:55:27,413 --> 00:55:28,551 and I'm loving it. 1311 00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:30,241 - Yo, let me ask you this-- 1312 00:55:30,344 --> 00:55:32,931 - I was just looking up some stuff about Eminem online, 1313 00:55:33,034 --> 00:55:35,793 and this girl was talking about how 1314 00:55:35,896 --> 00:55:37,896 she apparently was spending time 1315 00:55:37,965 --> 00:55:39,413 with him while he was on tour. 1316 00:55:39,517 --> 00:55:41,310 Like, some fan girl he picked up. 1317 00:55:41,413 --> 00:55:44,655 And I thought at first that that was real, so I'm like, 1318 00:55:44,758 --> 00:55:47,655 did somebody really put that--like, that hap-- 1319 00:55:47,758 --> 00:55:49,758 somebody put that out? That's insane. 1320 00:55:49,827 --> 00:55:52,241 Then when I scrolled down to the end, 1321 00:55:52,344 --> 00:55:54,448 it said fan fiction. 1322 00:55:54,551 --> 00:55:57,448 [discordant music] 1323 00:55:57,551 --> 00:55:59,793 ♪ ♪ 1324 00:55:59,896 --> 00:56:02,620 The next thing I knew, that was all I was reading, 1325 00:56:02,689 --> 00:56:05,034 'cause it was kind of addictive. 1326 00:56:05,137 --> 00:56:10,862 ♪ ♪ 1327 00:56:10,965 --> 00:56:13,793 And after, like, about three or four months of reading it, 1328 00:56:13,862 --> 00:56:17,689 I was like, why don't I write one myself? 1329 00:56:19,448 --> 00:56:23,000 I just imagined what his head space would be like. 1330 00:56:24,793 --> 00:56:26,758 It's very presumptuous of me to say, 1331 00:56:26,827 --> 00:56:28,448 oh, I'm writing this as Marshall, 1332 00:56:28,517 --> 00:56:30,448 even though it literally says Marshall's point of view 1333 00:56:30,517 --> 00:56:31,793 when I write it. 1334 00:56:31,896 --> 00:56:33,482 But you know, it's 'cause it's fiction. 1335 00:56:33,620 --> 00:56:35,896 It's OK. 1336 00:56:36,034 --> 00:56:38,275 - Do you feel like you have an understanding 1337 00:56:38,344 --> 00:56:40,827 of who Marshall actually is? 1338 00:56:40,896 --> 00:56:42,758 - It's kind of hard to tell with Eminem 1339 00:56:42,827 --> 00:56:44,034 because he's like-- 1340 00:56:44,137 --> 00:56:47,103 as much as he puts personal shit in his songs, 1341 00:56:47,172 --> 00:56:49,620 he probably shows us only what he wants us to see. 1342 00:56:49,689 --> 00:56:52,482 [upbeat music] 1343 00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:55,103 ♪ 1344 00:56:55,172 --> 00:56:56,413 What's up, ladies? 1345 00:56:56,482 --> 00:56:59,000 [cheering] 1346 00:56:59,103 --> 00:57:01,068 I was sharing a lot... 1347 00:57:01,172 --> 00:57:02,379 Aw. 1348 00:57:02,482 --> 00:57:04,551 And made it like a fucking open book. 1349 00:57:04,655 --> 00:57:06,206 And then sometimes you want to close 1350 00:57:06,310 --> 00:57:08,413 that book back a little bit because 1351 00:57:08,517 --> 00:57:10,620 did you share too much? 1352 00:57:10,758 --> 00:57:11,862 What's up? I'm Marshall, and I'm gonna to punch you 1353 00:57:11,965 --> 00:57:13,241 in the fucking throat. 1354 00:57:13,344 --> 00:57:15,413 Do you have anything left to keep to yourself? 1355 00:57:15,517 --> 00:57:16,862 I can't fucking work like this. 1356 00:57:16,931 --> 00:57:18,206 You're stressing me out. 1357 00:57:18,275 --> 00:57:19,758 [door creaks] 1358 00:57:19,896 --> 00:57:21,586 - "Before I was famous, everything 1359 00:57:21,689 --> 00:57:23,758 "was moving in slow motion. 1360 00:57:23,896 --> 00:57:26,172 "Now it seems like somebody has pressed 1361 00:57:26,241 --> 00:57:27,827 "the fucking fast forward button, 1362 00:57:27,931 --> 00:57:30,068 "and my life just seems to be rushing by. 1363 00:57:30,206 --> 00:57:33,137 It sometimes feels like a strange movie." 1364 00:57:33,241 --> 00:57:34,793 I couldn't imagine how jarring it is 1365 00:57:34,896 --> 00:57:39,862 to go from being where he started out in 8 Mile 1366 00:57:39,931 --> 00:57:43,896 to the level of fame and success and wealth 1367 00:57:43,965 --> 00:57:48,275 and confinement that comes along with celebrity. 1368 00:57:48,379 --> 00:57:49,379 Unreal. 1369 00:57:49,482 --> 00:57:50,896 Hey, Em. 1370 00:57:51,034 --> 00:57:52,172 - Don't--don't come over here, man. 1371 00:57:52,241 --> 00:57:53,103 Hey, Em. 1372 00:57:53,241 --> 00:57:54,137 All right? 1373 00:57:54,241 --> 00:57:55,758 Hey, have a good concert. 1374 00:57:55,862 --> 00:57:58,413 - The way that he talks about fame in his music, 1375 00:57:58,517 --> 00:58:00,413 it's like he wishes that he could just 1376 00:58:00,517 --> 00:58:03,931 go and be a normal person and go to the store 1377 00:58:04,034 --> 00:58:05,413 and things like that. 1378 00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:06,931 And I think it feels like an invasion. 1379 00:58:07,034 --> 00:58:08,448 Yo, what's up, Eminem? 1380 00:58:08,551 --> 00:58:09,620 So are you gonna-- 1381 00:58:09,724 --> 00:58:10,965 Good to see you, man. 1382 00:58:11,068 --> 00:58:13,758 - Every single day I'm on the Eminem subreddit. 1383 00:58:13,827 --> 00:58:16,137 There is 800,000 stans. 1384 00:58:16,241 --> 00:58:18,793 We have guys from India and Pakistan, 1385 00:58:18,896 --> 00:58:22,137 and like, just all-- all over the world. 1386 00:58:22,275 --> 00:58:25,000 We theorize, and we go back and forth, and we try 1387 00:58:25,103 --> 00:58:27,965 and, uh, figure out what goes on in his daily life. 1388 00:58:28,103 --> 00:58:29,758 Would be really cool to know, like, 1389 00:58:29,862 --> 00:58:32,241 does he go to the gym in the morning? 1390 00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:34,310 Or does he play basketball, 1391 00:58:34,448 --> 00:58:36,206 or is he in the studio all day? 1392 00:58:36,310 --> 00:58:39,000 It feels incredibly euphoric to me 1393 00:58:39,103 --> 00:58:42,275 because every post-- every post you go through 1394 00:58:42,344 --> 00:58:44,793 and every little thread of information you get, 1395 00:58:44,862 --> 00:58:47,965 it gives you one step closer to getting closer to the man. 1396 00:58:48,068 --> 00:58:49,275 [crowd shouting] 1397 00:58:49,413 --> 00:58:50,275 Em! 1398 00:58:50,379 --> 00:58:51,620 Em! 1399 00:58:51,689 --> 00:58:53,241 - You can look at your smartphone now 1400 00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:54,413 and look at social media and feel like 1401 00:58:54,482 --> 00:58:56,827 you have a direct line to these people now. 1402 00:58:56,965 --> 00:58:59,620 There's definitely a very thin line 1403 00:58:59,689 --> 00:59:01,310 when you go from that follow button, 1404 00:59:01,379 --> 00:59:03,482 and then all of a sudden, you're following someone. 1405 00:59:03,551 --> 00:59:06,827 Conversely, I'm following them. 1406 00:59:06,896 --> 00:59:09,034 And it's like, I need to know every new thing 1407 00:59:09,137 --> 00:59:12,172 about this person, and I think that takes some people 1408 00:59:12,275 --> 00:59:14,689 down some dark roads. 1409 00:59:14,793 --> 00:59:17,379 - I'm sure it feels like a prison, 1410 00:59:17,517 --> 00:59:21,034 where you can't go anywhere without being recognized. 1411 00:59:21,172 --> 00:59:24,034 [ominous music] 1412 00:59:24,172 --> 00:59:31,206 ♪ 1413 00:59:36,206 --> 00:59:40,517 - There's definitely a shift of him becoming 1414 00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:42,724 a little bit more withdrawn 1415 00:59:42,862 --> 00:59:44,896 from all of the fame. 1416 01:00:19,275 --> 01:00:21,172 [projector whirring] 1417 01:00:21,241 --> 01:00:23,551 - I live in that same area where I do hear from people, 1418 01:00:23,655 --> 01:00:25,034 like, oh, my God, Eminem moved here 1419 01:00:25,137 --> 01:00:26,137 and his address is this, 1420 01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:27,689 and oh, I was trick-or-treating, 1421 01:00:27,793 --> 01:00:29,206 and I went to his house. 1422 01:00:29,344 --> 01:00:33,758 And it's like he can't even live normally. 1423 01:00:35,206 --> 01:00:38,000 I've always been like, oh, I want to meet him so bad. 1424 01:00:38,068 --> 01:00:39,517 It's almost like a double-edged sword, 1425 01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:41,551 because what would I do, run up to him and be like, 1426 01:00:41,655 --> 01:00:42,931 oh, my God, Eminem? 1427 01:00:43,034 --> 01:00:45,413 And that's, like, not what he wants. 1428 01:00:45,517 --> 01:00:47,241 But at the same time, it's, like, all I want. 1429 01:00:47,344 --> 01:00:50,172 ♪ ♪ 1430 01:00:50,241 --> 01:00:52,034 - I remember one time me and Hailie 1431 01:00:52,137 --> 01:00:53,689 went to the mall in LA. 1432 01:00:53,793 --> 01:00:57,034 It was the last time I went to the mall as me, right? 1433 01:00:57,137 --> 01:01:00,344 Like, not fucking disguised. 1434 01:01:00,413 --> 01:01:04,206 And, um, every store we went in, we come out, 1435 01:01:04,275 --> 01:01:05,793 and there's another-- a bigger crowd 1436 01:01:05,931 --> 01:01:08,793 and a bigger crowd and a bigger crowd. 1437 01:01:08,931 --> 01:01:11,206 And it got to the point where I was like-- 1438 01:01:11,275 --> 01:01:13,241 I picked her up, and I'm like, come on, 1439 01:01:13,344 --> 01:01:14,965 kiddo, time to go, right? 1440 01:01:15,103 --> 01:01:18,413 And I'm walking, and as I'm walking faster 1441 01:01:18,517 --> 01:01:19,862 and faster and faster, they're walking 1442 01:01:19,931 --> 01:01:21,103 faster and faster and faster. 1443 01:01:21,241 --> 01:01:22,724 And I literally felt like I was being chased 1444 01:01:22,827 --> 01:01:24,896 out the fucking mall. 1445 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,896 And that was one of those moments 1446 01:01:29,965 --> 01:01:34,137 where I realized, like, my life really has changed. 1447 01:01:34,275 --> 01:01:38,103 Like, I can't--I can't do this anymore, right? 1448 01:01:38,206 --> 01:01:40,517 'Cause I got to protect my baby. 1449 01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:43,793 So that was a scary-- that was a scary moment, 1450 01:01:43,931 --> 01:01:45,034 and scary for her too. 1451 01:01:45,103 --> 01:01:46,793 I asked her. She--she doesn't remember it. 1452 01:01:46,896 --> 01:01:47,931 She was too little to remember it. 1453 01:01:48,068 --> 01:01:51,620 But I remember it, and it was fucking crazy. 1454 01:02:01,344 --> 01:02:04,482 But people do not realize how dangerous... 1455 01:02:07,862 --> 01:02:11,827 - Some people who are attracted to Eminem 1456 01:02:11,896 --> 01:02:14,517 might not be the best-intentioned people 1457 01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:18,137 and who could be aggressive or violent. 1458 01:02:18,241 --> 01:02:20,793 - We've seen it with other artists, who a super-fan 1459 01:02:20,896 --> 01:02:22,827 has, you know, come after them. 1460 01:02:22,965 --> 01:02:30,000 ♪ 1461 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,000 - I definitely feared for his safety. 1462 01:02:34,103 --> 01:02:35,275 Sometimes you get obsessive fans 1463 01:02:35,379 --> 01:02:37,344 that are mentally unstable. 1464 01:02:37,482 --> 01:02:40,931 ♪ 1465 01:02:41,034 --> 01:02:42,379 I'm protective of Eminem. 1466 01:02:42,482 --> 01:02:45,103 Oh, my God, if anything happened to Em--oh, my God, 1467 01:02:45,206 --> 01:02:46,379 I'd come swinging. 1468 01:02:46,482 --> 01:02:49,448 ♪ ♪ 1469 01:02:49,551 --> 01:02:53,068 - You just never know, within this profession that we have, 1470 01:02:53,206 --> 01:02:55,275 if there's somebody out there lurking 1471 01:02:55,379 --> 01:02:58,137 that's creating this fantasy in their own head 1472 01:02:58,206 --> 01:03:01,862 because you're not responding to them. 1473 01:03:01,931 --> 01:03:04,793 That's the scariest shit ever. 1474 01:03:04,896 --> 01:03:06,551 Following and tracking him 1475 01:03:06,620 --> 01:03:08,241 like he's not a regular person, 1476 01:03:08,344 --> 01:03:09,448 you're not a fan at all. 1477 01:03:16,724 --> 01:03:18,793 - 11 years of policing, I've seen all kinds 1478 01:03:18,931 --> 01:03:20,103 of dark, twisty shit. 1479 01:03:20,241 --> 01:03:21,965 When you get that famous, you can't talk to everybody. 1480 01:03:22,103 --> 01:03:24,068 You can't say hi to everybody. You can't meet everybody. 1481 01:03:24,137 --> 01:03:27,896 And so I don't think that this kid Stan got that. 1482 01:03:27,965 --> 01:03:30,586 - If the Stan character existed today, 1483 01:03:30,655 --> 01:03:32,103 he would certainly follow Eminem 1484 01:03:32,206 --> 01:03:35,310 on every platform, maybe run a fan page, 1485 01:03:35,413 --> 01:03:37,310 definitely on Eminem Reddit. 1486 01:03:37,448 --> 01:03:40,310 Would be writing to him on each of his 1487 01:03:40,413 --> 01:03:44,275 social media accounts every day. 1488 01:03:44,379 --> 01:03:46,758 With the song "Stan," it's almost like 1489 01:03:46,827 --> 01:03:50,241 a PSA to his fans, like, please don't do this. 1490 01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:52,379 This is not what I want. 1491 01:03:58,068 --> 01:04:00,965 [dramatic music] 1492 01:04:01,068 --> 01:04:04,000 - When I saw him in 2005's Anger Management tour, 1493 01:04:04,103 --> 01:04:05,137 I was in college. 1494 01:04:05,241 --> 01:04:08,103 Came there to the show with my friend. 1495 01:04:08,172 --> 01:04:09,862 [cheering] 1496 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:15,000 This is when he was touring nationwide with D12... 1497 01:04:15,103 --> 01:04:16,931 - Yeah, man, we out here having a good time 1498 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,827 on this tour, so far, so good. 1499 01:04:18,931 --> 01:04:20,206 And with 50 Cent... 1500 01:04:20,344 --> 01:04:21,517 - 50-- - No, don't tell me. 1501 01:04:21,620 --> 01:04:22,586 I know I did good. 1502 01:04:22,655 --> 01:04:24,068 [laughter] 1503 01:04:24,172 --> 01:04:26,965 - And with Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz. 1504 01:04:27,068 --> 01:04:28,551 We out, bitch! 1505 01:04:28,655 --> 01:04:32,000 - Which to this day has been one of the best 1506 01:04:32,103 --> 01:04:34,206 tours that I've ever seen. 1507 01:04:34,344 --> 01:04:36,724 - The atmosphere of touring and the partying 1508 01:04:36,827 --> 01:04:39,137 and getting up in the morning and catching the flights 1509 01:04:39,241 --> 01:04:41,000 and the plane and the jet lag 1510 01:04:41,068 --> 01:04:43,448 and riding the bus and not being able to sleep, 1511 01:04:43,551 --> 01:04:44,551 it's hard. 1512 01:04:44,655 --> 01:04:46,793 It ends up running you down. 1513 01:04:46,862 --> 01:04:48,275 We're done in Detroit. 1514 01:04:48,379 --> 01:04:49,482 Europe next. 1515 01:04:49,586 --> 01:04:50,827 Wow. 1516 01:04:50,931 --> 01:04:53,655 - It's almost like I have to get off the road 1517 01:04:53,724 --> 01:04:57,482 every now and then and take a break, or I'll go crazy. 1518 01:04:57,586 --> 01:05:00,586 [somber music] 1519 01:05:00,689 --> 01:05:03,068 ♪ ♪ 1520 01:05:03,172 --> 01:05:05,862 - I was supposed to be going to see him in Manchester, 1521 01:05:05,931 --> 01:05:07,862 and he canceled because he was-- 1522 01:05:07,931 --> 01:05:11,068 well, exhaustion, he-- he told everyone at the time. 1523 01:05:11,172 --> 01:05:14,586 It was a bit of a shock. 1524 01:05:14,724 --> 01:05:16,275 - I actually had tickets for him, 1525 01:05:16,379 --> 01:05:18,482 whenever the Anger Management tour was that he canceled. 1526 01:05:18,586 --> 01:05:19,862 I had tickets to that show. 1527 01:05:19,931 --> 01:05:21,620 I remember at the time being obviously 1528 01:05:21,758 --> 01:05:23,896 supremely disappointed, but it wasn't a secret, 1529 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,724 the struggles that he was going through. 1530 01:05:27,862 --> 01:05:29,137 - That's why I'm pill-adverse, 1531 01:05:29,241 --> 01:05:30,793 knowing how it got to him. 1532 01:05:30,896 --> 01:05:33,241 Even--I think I had, like, my wisdom teeth out 1533 01:05:33,344 --> 01:05:36,103 and whatnot, and I wouldn't even take the hydrocodones 1534 01:05:36,241 --> 01:05:38,379 because I'm like, I can't take too many because this is-- 1535 01:05:38,448 --> 01:05:40,103 this is the stuff that'll get you. 1536 01:05:40,206 --> 01:05:42,931 ♪ ♪ 1537 01:05:43,034 --> 01:05:44,655 - I was on vacation for a few days, 1538 01:05:44,758 --> 01:05:49,482 and I came back, and my mom came to pick me-- 1539 01:05:49,586 --> 01:05:51,586 pick me up at the airport. 1540 01:05:51,689 --> 01:05:54,517 And she looked at me like she never looked at me like this 1541 01:05:54,586 --> 01:05:59,620 before, and she said, "Zolt, someone from 1542 01:05:59,724 --> 01:06:01,965 Eminem friends passed away." 1543 01:06:02,034 --> 01:06:04,310 - Rapper DeShaun Holton, better known as Proof, 1544 01:06:04,448 --> 01:06:06,310 one of the founders of the rap group D12 1545 01:06:06,448 --> 01:06:09,172 and a close friend of sometime D12 member Eminem, 1546 01:06:09,310 --> 01:06:11,586 was shot and killed at a Detroit nightclub. 1547 01:06:11,655 --> 01:06:13,310 He was 32 years old. 1548 01:06:13,448 --> 01:06:14,965 Proof often shared the stage with Eminem. 1549 01:06:15,068 --> 01:06:16,620 He was even the best man at Em's wedding 1550 01:06:16,724 --> 01:06:19,344 this past January, but he was also... 1551 01:06:19,482 --> 01:06:22,827 - I want you to listen to him, give him a chance. 1552 01:06:22,965 --> 01:06:26,793 Put your hands together for the funky honky Eminem. 1553 01:06:26,931 --> 01:06:29,827 [somber music] 1554 01:06:29,931 --> 01:06:31,103 ♪ ♪ 1555 01:06:31,206 --> 01:06:32,758 My name is Slim Shady. 1556 01:06:32,827 --> 01:06:34,862 Yo, this is MC Proof, and this is my DJ-- 1557 01:06:34,965 --> 01:06:35,931 I cry. 1558 01:06:36,034 --> 01:06:37,103 I immediately cry. 1559 01:06:37,206 --> 01:06:39,724 I said to my mom, "Sorry, I can't go to the school. 1560 01:06:39,793 --> 01:06:41,448 It's too much for me, too much." 1561 01:06:41,517 --> 01:06:43,758 It took three months, and even after three months, 1562 01:06:43,862 --> 01:06:46,448 when I came back to the--to the school-- 1563 01:06:46,517 --> 01:06:49,137 [clears throat] Man. 1564 01:06:49,241 --> 01:06:52,655 Even thinking about it really want to make me cry about it. 1565 01:06:54,344 --> 01:06:56,103 - When he lost Proof, I cried with him 1566 01:06:56,172 --> 01:06:59,068 'cause I knew exactly what he felt. 1567 01:06:59,137 --> 01:07:00,310 I lost my cousin, 1568 01:07:00,413 --> 01:07:03,551 and I lost him in a bad, bad way. 1569 01:07:03,655 --> 01:07:05,517 The one person that had my back since 1570 01:07:05,620 --> 01:07:08,310 I was a kid, that always was with me, 1571 01:07:08,379 --> 01:07:11,413 is not here to help me no more. 1572 01:07:11,551 --> 01:07:13,034 All I was doing was just popping pills 1573 01:07:13,172 --> 01:07:14,689 and just laying in bed all day. 1574 01:07:14,793 --> 01:07:16,689 If he died, I should die. 1575 01:07:16,827 --> 01:07:18,758 That's how I felt. 1576 01:07:23,068 --> 01:07:25,137 [breathes deeply] 1577 01:07:25,206 --> 01:07:27,482 I'm sorry. Give me a second. 1578 01:07:30,517 --> 01:07:33,551 [somber music] 1579 01:07:33,689 --> 01:07:37,241 - You know, just, I've lost a lot of people. 1580 01:07:37,344 --> 01:07:40,310 Um, I've lost my sister. I lost my dad. 1581 01:07:40,379 --> 01:07:41,482 I lost my nephew. 1582 01:07:41,551 --> 01:07:43,655 So all, like, my close family's, you know, 1583 01:07:43,724 --> 01:07:45,000 halfway gone. 1584 01:07:45,068 --> 01:07:47,068 Um, but my nephew was, like, the worst, 1585 01:07:47,206 --> 01:07:49,517 'cause he was, like, my best friend. 1586 01:07:49,586 --> 01:07:52,068 In 2016, like January, he like, 1587 01:07:52,172 --> 01:07:54,241 complained about having a sore neck, 1588 01:07:54,379 --> 01:07:55,965 I think it was, and doctors were like, 1589 01:07:56,034 --> 01:07:57,965 oh, sinus infection, this, this, this. 1590 01:07:58,034 --> 01:07:59,206 My sister was taking him every-- 1591 01:07:59,310 --> 01:08:00,551 like, all the time, like-- and he was someone 1592 01:08:00,655 --> 01:08:01,827 that never complained. 1593 01:08:01,931 --> 01:08:03,896 Um, he would never tell you when he was sick, 1594 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,310 so that was already odd. 1595 01:08:05,448 --> 01:08:08,482 So finally some doctor was like, yeah, 1596 01:08:08,620 --> 01:08:10,448 no, this is stage IV lymphoma. 1597 01:08:10,551 --> 01:08:11,655 You know, when my nephew passed, 1598 01:08:11,758 --> 01:08:15,206 I was like, fuck this, and I tried to overdose, 1599 01:08:15,275 --> 01:08:17,517 um, after his funeral was over. 1600 01:08:17,586 --> 01:08:21,103 [machinery beeping] 1601 01:08:21,206 --> 01:08:24,448 I woke up in the hospital with my heart doctor 1602 01:08:24,551 --> 01:08:26,931 at the bottom of my bed like a dad, 1603 01:08:27,068 --> 01:08:30,206 just telling me never to do that shit again, 1604 01:08:30,275 --> 01:08:34,068 and I listen to Eminem because him losing Proof, 1605 01:08:34,137 --> 01:08:36,586 I feel like I really can resonate with that 1606 01:08:36,655 --> 01:08:39,689 because that was literally my other half. 1607 01:08:41,931 --> 01:08:43,793 - Why is it so rare that the public 1608 01:08:43,896 --> 01:08:45,172 gets to see Eminem nowadays? What's-- 1609 01:08:45,275 --> 01:08:46,724 Yeah, why is it like that? 1610 01:08:50,172 --> 01:08:52,275 - I actually need him to make my music. 1611 01:08:52,379 --> 01:08:53,896 So he be busy. 1612 01:08:55,413 --> 01:08:59,620 And he had the white shirt with big Proof on the shirt. 1613 01:09:13,896 --> 01:09:15,068 It was-- I didn't-- 1614 01:09:15,172 --> 01:09:19,517 I didn't want to see Marshall like this, so... 1615 01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:22,172 - Guys, you gotta tell me, what's the latest 1616 01:09:22,275 --> 01:09:23,655 with the new D12 album? 1617 01:09:23,758 --> 01:09:25,275 - It's all in the memory of Proof, 1618 01:09:25,344 --> 01:09:27,172 - everything that he was. - Shout out to Proof. 1619 01:09:27,275 --> 01:09:29,310 - You know what I mean? - Yeah. 1620 01:09:29,379 --> 01:09:31,482 - Rest--rest in peace, big baby. 1621 01:09:31,586 --> 01:09:33,206 - It was one of the toughest times, 1622 01:09:33,344 --> 01:09:36,482 if not the toughest time in his life, that we know of. 1623 01:09:36,551 --> 01:09:39,827 And it was kind of, I think, a when it rains, it pours. 1624 01:09:39,896 --> 01:09:43,551 My dad, he passed unexpectedly when I was entering 1625 01:09:43,655 --> 01:09:45,827 my freshman year of college. 1626 01:09:45,896 --> 01:09:51,482 You know, listening to him talking about his grief 1627 01:09:51,551 --> 01:09:55,448 and the lows that he went through... 1628 01:09:55,517 --> 01:09:57,896 I mean, I connect to that. 1629 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,689 - ♪ And Proof I'm truly sorry if I let you down ♪ 1630 01:10:00,827 --> 01:10:02,827 ♪ But this tore me in two ♪ 1631 01:10:02,965 --> 01:10:05,517 ♪ The thought of no more me and you ♪ 1632 01:10:05,620 --> 01:10:07,448 ♪ You gave me shoes, Nikes like new ♪ 1633 01:10:07,517 --> 01:10:09,448 ♪ For me for school ♪ 1634 01:10:09,517 --> 01:10:11,931 ♪ Doody, I'm trying, but you, you were the glue ♪ 1635 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,689 ♪ That binded so many things, time ♪ 1636 01:10:13,793 --> 01:10:15,931 ♪ I'd give anything to rewind it ♪ 1637 01:10:16,034 --> 01:10:18,965 ♪ I had to walk down my halls and constantly be reminded ♪ 1638 01:10:19,068 --> 01:10:20,517 ♪ By pictures all on my walls ♪ 1639 01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:21,931 ♪ And I couldn't sleep at night ♪ 1640 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,724 ♪ 'Cause that image burned in my brain ♪ 1641 01:10:23,862 --> 01:10:26,379 ♪ Of you on the table, me falling across your body ♪ 1642 01:10:26,517 --> 01:10:28,586 ♪ Not able to stand to save you ♪ 1643 01:10:28,689 --> 01:10:30,689 ♪ God, why did you take him? ♪ 1644 01:10:34,482 --> 01:10:36,310 - I was really worried for Marshall 1645 01:10:36,379 --> 01:10:39,137 during those years, for his well-being, 1646 01:10:39,241 --> 01:10:41,655 spiritually, physically. 1647 01:10:41,758 --> 01:10:45,172 Didn't know how it was going to alter the future. 1648 01:10:45,275 --> 01:10:47,310 - I'd got into this vicious cycle of, 1649 01:10:47,413 --> 01:10:50,310 I'm depressed so I need more pills. 1650 01:10:50,379 --> 01:10:52,448 And then your tolerance gets so high 1651 01:10:52,517 --> 01:10:54,965 that you end up overdosing. 1652 01:10:55,034 --> 01:10:57,655 I woke up in the hospital, and I didn't 1653 01:10:57,758 --> 01:10:59,068 know what the fuck happened. 1654 01:10:59,172 --> 01:11:00,931 Like, it--it seemed like I-- 1655 01:11:01,034 --> 01:11:02,379 I fell asleep, and I woke up, 1656 01:11:02,448 --> 01:11:03,827 and I woke up with tubes in me and shit. 1657 01:11:03,896 --> 01:11:05,068 I wanted to get up. 1658 01:11:05,172 --> 01:11:06,482 I couldn't move. 1659 01:11:08,862 --> 01:11:13,068 After the overdose, I came home going, 1660 01:11:13,172 --> 01:11:18,241 yo, bro, I need something, and I fucking went to town. 1661 01:11:18,379 --> 01:11:21,344 So I was really, like, inside knowing, like, 1662 01:11:21,413 --> 01:11:22,931 I need to fucking-- 1663 01:11:23,068 --> 01:11:26,206 I'm going to die if I don't-- if I don't do something. 1664 01:11:28,448 --> 01:11:31,586 I had this video that they brought me 1665 01:11:31,689 --> 01:11:35,000 because I missed Hailie's first guitar recital. 1666 01:11:35,068 --> 01:11:37,379 The amount of guilt that I felt, 1667 01:11:37,482 --> 01:11:40,413 I cried when I saw it 'cause I was like, 1668 01:11:40,517 --> 01:11:43,344 oh, my God, I missed that. 1669 01:11:43,413 --> 01:11:46,551 And I kept saying to myself, 1670 01:11:46,620 --> 01:11:48,344 "Do you want to fucking miss this again? 1671 01:11:48,413 --> 01:11:50,965 Do you want to miss everything?" 1672 01:11:51,068 --> 01:11:53,896 ♪ ♪ 1673 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,241 If you can't do it for yourself, 1674 01:11:55,344 --> 01:11:58,379 you fucking pussy, at least do it for them. 1675 01:12:00,586 --> 01:12:04,758 I realized I'm never doing this again. 1676 01:12:04,862 --> 01:12:08,172 [microphone feedback] 1677 01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:10,448 - When I heard the news that he, like, overdosed, 1678 01:12:10,551 --> 01:12:13,724 I was like, fuck. Like, damn. 1679 01:12:13,793 --> 01:12:15,965 Like, he could have actually-- 1680 01:12:16,068 --> 01:12:18,448 he could have really died. 1681 01:12:18,517 --> 01:12:20,137 For me with celebrities, it almost feels 1682 01:12:20,241 --> 01:12:21,620 like they are untouchable. 1683 01:12:21,689 --> 01:12:23,103 So whenever you hear that a celebrity 1684 01:12:23,172 --> 01:12:24,482 died or almost died, 1685 01:12:24,586 --> 01:12:26,827 it's always like-- it hits you differently 1686 01:12:26,965 --> 01:12:30,448 from, like, uh, like a normal person. 1687 01:12:30,551 --> 01:12:32,103 I was just in shock. 1688 01:12:32,172 --> 01:12:34,310 So I made a point, I'm playing Eminem 1689 01:12:34,413 --> 01:12:35,655 every single day 1690 01:12:35,758 --> 01:12:37,413 until he gets out and until he gets better, 1691 01:12:37,482 --> 01:12:39,517 until--until he comes back to his rap. 1692 01:12:39,655 --> 01:12:41,758 And that's what I did, every single song 1693 01:12:41,827 --> 01:12:44,896 over and over on replay. 1694 01:12:44,965 --> 01:12:46,448 - While I was sitting in detox, 1695 01:12:46,551 --> 01:12:47,655 I didn't know exactly 1696 01:12:47,758 --> 01:12:50,620 what I was going to do with my career. 1697 01:12:50,689 --> 01:12:52,103 - At that time, I was just thinking, 1698 01:12:52,172 --> 01:12:53,103 like, this can't be it. 1699 01:12:53,206 --> 01:12:54,275 Like, in the back of my mind, of course, 1700 01:12:54,379 --> 01:12:55,620 I'm scared that it is. 1701 01:12:55,689 --> 01:12:58,000 - No new music, no new tours, no new interviews, 1702 01:12:58,137 --> 01:12:59,931 no new jokes, whatever the case is. 1703 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,655 It's just, he'd be gone. 1704 01:13:01,724 --> 01:13:06,034 - To me, it was like, Eminem, I know it's hard, 1705 01:13:06,137 --> 01:13:10,551 but one day you are coming back. 1706 01:13:10,655 --> 01:13:12,689 - I had to relearn how to walk, talk, 1707 01:13:12,793 --> 01:13:14,137 and, for the most part, 1708 01:13:14,206 --> 01:13:16,551 had to relearn how to rap again. 1709 01:13:16,655 --> 01:13:19,655 My writing had gotten terrible. 1710 01:13:19,724 --> 01:13:22,413 - What did it feel like when it started to work again? 1711 01:13:22,517 --> 01:13:25,103 - Um, when I started to get it back, 1712 01:13:25,206 --> 01:13:28,758 it was exciting because I felt it. 1713 01:13:28,862 --> 01:13:32,172 It would be in conversations, just having conversations 1714 01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:34,137 with people or the TV. 1715 01:13:34,206 --> 01:13:36,724 Like, every--every phrase that someone said on TV, 1716 01:13:36,862 --> 01:13:39,586 oh, you said the word "the." 1717 01:13:39,689 --> 01:13:41,655 Duh, uh. 1718 01:13:41,758 --> 01:13:43,517 It was hitting me really fast, 1719 01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:46,068 and I was writing songs really quickly. 1720 01:13:46,206 --> 01:13:47,551 What--what's going on? 1721 01:13:47,689 --> 01:13:48,862 [cheering] 1722 01:13:48,965 --> 01:13:50,482 What are you guys doing? 1723 01:13:50,551 --> 01:13:52,724 Do you mind if I come out and maybe join you or something? 1724 01:13:52,827 --> 01:13:54,310 - You wanna come out? Come on, baby. 1725 01:13:54,379 --> 01:13:56,724 - Eminem! - Get over here. 1726 01:13:56,827 --> 01:13:58,724 - When he first announced "Relapse," 1727 01:13:58,862 --> 01:14:00,379 it felt like Christmas to me. 1728 01:14:00,482 --> 01:14:03,000 Because when an album comes out, 1729 01:14:03,103 --> 01:14:06,241 I listen to an album front to back, 1730 01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:07,655 and then back to front, 1731 01:14:07,793 --> 01:14:12,241 and then to the end again, for months at a time. 1732 01:14:12,344 --> 01:14:16,034 So listening to "Relapse" was amazing to me, 1733 01:14:16,103 --> 01:14:17,413 just to hear that he's back. 1734 01:14:17,517 --> 01:14:20,448 I was just so, so ecstatic, so proud, and so happy 1735 01:14:20,551 --> 01:14:21,655 that I could hear him again. 1736 01:14:21,758 --> 01:14:23,241 Number one, you look good. 1737 01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:25,448 Number two, you're number one right now, 1738 01:14:25,586 --> 01:14:26,724 as far as your album's concerned, 1739 01:14:26,793 --> 01:14:27,931 and number three, you're number one 1740 01:14:28,068 --> 01:14:29,310 in the UK as well. 1741 01:14:29,448 --> 01:14:30,758 So congratulations. 1742 01:14:30,862 --> 01:14:32,758 - How does it feel? - Yeah, thank you. 1743 01:14:32,862 --> 01:14:34,034 It feels great. I mean, I'm just, 1744 01:14:34,103 --> 01:14:35,448 you know, I'm glad to be back. 1745 01:14:35,586 --> 01:14:36,689 [cheers and applause] 1746 01:14:36,758 --> 01:14:38,551 Guess who? 1747 01:14:38,655 --> 01:14:39,896 You miss me? 1748 01:14:39,965 --> 01:14:42,103 Jessica Simpson, sing the chorus. 1749 01:14:42,206 --> 01:14:43,862 - ♪ When you walked through the door ♪ 1750 01:14:43,931 --> 01:14:45,586 ♪ It was clear to me ♪ 1751 01:14:45,689 --> 01:14:46,689 ♪ Clear to me ♪ 1752 01:14:46,793 --> 01:14:47,758 - ♪ You're the one they adore ♪ 1753 01:14:47,896 --> 01:14:49,620 ♪ Who they came to see ♪ 1754 01:14:49,724 --> 01:14:50,758 ♪ Who they came to see ♪ 1755 01:14:50,862 --> 01:14:52,310 ♪ You're a rock star ♪ 1756 01:14:52,413 --> 01:14:53,344 - You know what I love about your work, 1757 01:14:53,448 --> 01:14:54,586 and I'm sure many people do, 1758 01:14:54,655 --> 01:14:56,448 is there's a sense of humor. It's funny. 1759 01:14:56,551 --> 01:14:58,965 Uh, you diss some people in the new single. 1760 01:14:59,068 --> 01:15:00,586 - Some. - Yeah. 1761 01:15:00,655 --> 01:15:01,517 [laughter] 1762 01:15:01,655 --> 01:15:02,896 ♪ Back by popular demand ♪ 1763 01:15:03,034 --> 01:15:05,482 ♪ Now pop a little Zantac for antacid if you can ♪ 1764 01:15:05,586 --> 01:15:09,000 - As wickedly shrewd and sharp as he is lyrically 1765 01:15:09,103 --> 01:15:11,137 with these scathing disses of other people, 1766 01:15:11,206 --> 01:15:14,034 he was equally on his own case, 1767 01:15:14,137 --> 01:15:16,896 equally making fun of himself. 1768 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,344 And all of that makes you endearing to people. 1769 01:15:19,448 --> 01:15:22,931 ♪ ♪ 1770 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,655 - His disses were always funny, 1771 01:15:24,724 --> 01:15:26,517 and he did something with his voice. 1772 01:15:26,620 --> 01:15:27,655 Different character, right? 1773 01:15:27,758 --> 01:15:29,517 Flowing pretty damn cool, though. 1774 01:15:29,655 --> 01:15:33,137 - The whole, like, weird accent thing that he did on it 1775 01:15:33,241 --> 01:15:34,448 kind of threw me off. 1776 01:15:34,517 --> 01:15:36,172 Then when I listened to it more, 1777 01:15:36,241 --> 01:15:39,206 I'm like, damn, I was missing out on, like, some good shit. 1778 01:15:39,310 --> 01:15:41,206 ♪ ♪ 1779 01:15:41,344 --> 01:15:44,068 [electricity crackling] 1780 01:15:46,103 --> 01:15:49,551 - The response that I got from "Relapse" was lukewarm. 1781 01:15:49,655 --> 01:15:52,965 That hurt a little bit, but it also turned the lights on. 1782 01:15:53,034 --> 01:15:56,034 Like, you got to do something different. 1783 01:15:56,172 --> 01:15:58,827 Why don't you try embracing sobriety? 1784 01:15:58,931 --> 01:16:02,482 [soft music] 1785 01:16:03,827 --> 01:16:09,103 I realized, like, I'm not embarrassed anymore about it. 1786 01:16:09,206 --> 01:16:12,482 And I started treating sobriety like a superpower, 1787 01:16:12,586 --> 01:16:16,241 and I took pride in the fact that I was able to quit. 1788 01:16:16,344 --> 01:16:18,413 ♪ ♪ 1789 01:16:18,517 --> 01:16:20,862 - "Recovery" was a breath of fresh air for him. 1790 01:16:20,931 --> 01:16:22,586 I think it really sounded like someone 1791 01:16:22,724 --> 01:16:29,137 who was reclaiming his own life and his own narrative. 1792 01:16:29,241 --> 01:16:31,241 ♪ ♪ 1793 01:16:31,310 --> 01:16:33,620 - Getting sober and going through what he went through 1794 01:16:33,724 --> 01:16:36,586 made him a totally different person and artist. 1795 01:16:36,655 --> 01:16:39,206 He just used different flows and different cadences 1796 01:16:39,275 --> 01:16:41,068 and ways of rapping on tunes. 1797 01:16:41,137 --> 01:16:44,793 So for me as a fan, it was like becoming 1798 01:16:44,896 --> 01:16:47,448 a fan of a totally new artist. 1799 01:16:47,551 --> 01:16:51,068 ♪ ♪ 1800 01:17:03,379 --> 01:17:05,379 I was there in the front. 1801 01:17:05,482 --> 01:17:07,137 - Everybody here tonight who is an Eminem fan, 1802 01:17:07,206 --> 01:17:09,137 man, I just want to say 1803 01:17:09,206 --> 01:17:12,103 thank you for the support, man, 1804 01:17:12,172 --> 01:17:15,000 and not giving up on me, man. 1805 01:17:15,103 --> 01:17:18,448 I love y'all and I couldn't have did it without you, 1806 01:17:18,551 --> 01:17:21,137 so this song is for you. 1807 01:17:21,206 --> 01:17:23,379 [Eminem's "Not Afraid"] 1808 01:17:23,517 --> 01:17:25,655 - ♪ I'm not afraid - Sing it, y'all. 1809 01:17:25,758 --> 01:17:28,310 - ♪ To take a stand - Get this business right. 1810 01:17:28,379 --> 01:17:30,931 - ♪ Everybody - I guess I had to... 1811 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,344 ♪ Come take my hand ♪ 1812 01:17:32,448 --> 01:17:34,310 - Go to that place... - ♪ On this road together ♪ 1813 01:17:34,379 --> 01:17:36,379 To get to this one. 1814 01:17:36,482 --> 01:17:40,103 And some of you might still be in that place, 1815 01:17:40,172 --> 01:17:41,275 - ♪ Let you know, you're not alone ♪ 1816 01:17:41,344 --> 01:17:42,862 Trying to get out. 1817 01:17:42,965 --> 01:17:44,206 ♪ Holla if you feel that ♪ 1818 01:17:44,344 --> 01:17:45,965 ♪ You've been down the same road ♪ 1819 01:17:46,068 --> 01:17:47,448 - ♪ Read my lyrics off of this paper ♪ 1820 01:17:47,517 --> 01:17:48,827 ♪ Before I lay 'em ♪ 1821 01:17:48,931 --> 01:17:50,310 ♪ But you won't take the sting out these words ♪ 1822 01:17:50,413 --> 01:17:51,482 ♪ Before I say 'em ♪ 1823 01:17:51,586 --> 01:17:52,793 ♪ 'Cause ain't no way I'ma let you ♪ 1824 01:17:52,896 --> 01:17:54,068 ♪ Stop me from causing mayhem ♪ 1825 01:17:54,172 --> 01:17:55,965 ♪ When I say I'ma do something, I do it ♪ 1826 01:17:56,034 --> 01:17:57,482 ♪ I don't give a damn what you think ♪ 1827 01:17:57,586 --> 01:17:58,965 ♪ I'm doing this for me ♪ 1828 01:17:59,068 --> 01:18:00,344 ♪ So fuck the world, feed it beans ♪ 1829 01:18:00,448 --> 01:18:02,413 ♪ It's gassed up if it thinks it's stopping me ♪ 1830 01:18:02,517 --> 01:18:04,241 ♪ I'ma be what I set out to be ♪ 1831 01:18:04,344 --> 01:18:08,206 - That album helped rectify a lot of things in my life. 1832 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:10,275 Talking about going through losing his friend, 1833 01:18:10,413 --> 01:18:14,241 talking about the sleeping pill addiction. 1834 01:18:14,344 --> 01:18:16,379 I'm just like Marshall. 1835 01:18:16,448 --> 01:18:19,068 There's times when, in a 48-hour period, 1836 01:18:19,206 --> 01:18:22,517 I'd blow through 30 to 45 Ambien, like it was nothing. 1837 01:18:22,586 --> 01:18:25,000 - ♪ Like a fuck you for Christmas ♪ 1838 01:18:25,068 --> 01:18:27,103 - Watching how he's gotten sober, 1839 01:18:27,206 --> 01:18:30,034 I didn't feel the need to numb myself anymore. 1840 01:18:30,103 --> 01:18:32,344 - ♪ I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid ♪ 1841 01:18:32,413 --> 01:18:35,344 ♪ To take a stand, to take a stand ♪ 1842 01:18:35,413 --> 01:18:38,793 - I'm sitting down at home one day, 1843 01:18:38,931 --> 01:18:42,517 and I'm just drinking, and I pop the pill, 1844 01:18:42,586 --> 01:18:44,724 and "Not Afraid" came on. 1845 01:18:44,793 --> 01:18:47,896 I took it like he was speaking to me. 1846 01:18:48,034 --> 01:18:49,586 And that moment, that day, 1847 01:18:49,724 --> 01:18:52,068 that night gave me that push to say, 1848 01:18:52,206 --> 01:18:54,517 I'm done. 1849 01:18:54,586 --> 01:18:56,068 I have a wife now. I have a kid. 1850 01:18:56,172 --> 01:18:57,517 I have responsibilities. 1851 01:18:57,586 --> 01:18:59,551 I can't--I have to stop this. 1852 01:18:59,620 --> 01:19:01,965 So if I didn't act on it in that moment, 1853 01:19:02,068 --> 01:19:04,793 I would have been screwed. 1854 01:19:04,896 --> 01:19:07,344 He was by my side, helping me 1855 01:19:07,448 --> 01:19:10,551 so I could be completely clean and clear out my head 1856 01:19:10,689 --> 01:19:12,586 and start doing something with my life. 1857 01:19:12,689 --> 01:19:14,655 - ♪ Put my life back together right now ♪ 1858 01:19:14,724 --> 01:19:16,620 ♪ It was my decision to get clean ♪ 1859 01:19:16,724 --> 01:19:18,068 ♪ I did it for me ♪ 1860 01:19:18,172 --> 01:19:20,862 ♪ Admittedly, I probably did it subliminally for you ♪ 1861 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,793 ♪ So I could come back a brand-new me ♪ 1862 01:19:22,896 --> 01:19:24,000 ♪ You helped see me through ♪ 1863 01:19:24,103 --> 01:19:25,344 ♪ And don't even realize what you did ♪ 1864 01:19:25,482 --> 01:19:26,655 ♪ 'Cause believe me, you ♪ 1865 01:19:26,793 --> 01:19:28,034 ♪ I've been through the wringer ♪ 1866 01:19:28,172 --> 01:19:29,862 ♪ But they can do little to the middle finger ♪ 1867 01:19:29,965 --> 01:19:31,482 ♪ I think I got a tear in my eye ♪ 1868 01:19:31,586 --> 01:19:33,137 ♪ I feel like the king of my world ♪ 1869 01:19:33,206 --> 01:19:35,241 ♪ Haters can make like bees with no stingers ♪ 1870 01:19:35,344 --> 01:19:36,310 ♪ And drop dead ♪ 1871 01:19:36,379 --> 01:19:37,482 ♪ No more beef lingers ♪ 1872 01:19:37,586 --> 01:19:39,137 ♪ No more drama from now on ♪ 1873 01:19:39,206 --> 01:19:41,655 ♪ I promise to focus only on handling my responsibilities ♪ 1874 01:19:41,758 --> 01:19:43,000 ♪ As a father ♪ 1875 01:19:43,103 --> 01:19:44,758 ♪ So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof ♪ 1876 01:19:44,827 --> 01:19:46,551 ♪ Like my daughters and raise it ♪ 1877 01:19:46,655 --> 01:19:48,517 ♪ You couldn't lift a single shingle on it ♪ 1878 01:19:48,655 --> 01:19:50,344 ♪ 'Cause the way I feel I'm strong enough ♪ 1879 01:19:50,448 --> 01:19:52,137 ♪ To go to the club or the corner bar ♪ 1880 01:19:52,206 --> 01:19:53,965 ♪ And lift the whole liquor counter up ♪ 1881 01:19:54,068 --> 01:19:55,379 ♪ 'Cause I'm raising the bar ♪ 1882 01:19:55,482 --> 01:19:56,620 ♪ I'd shoot for the moon ♪ 1883 01:19:56,689 --> 01:19:57,931 ♪ But I'm too busy gazing at stars ♪ 1884 01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,344 ♪ I feel amazing, and ♪ 1885 01:19:59,448 --> 01:20:01,724 ♪ I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid ♪ 1886 01:20:01,827 --> 01:20:04,655 ♪ To take a stand, to take a stand ♪ 1887 01:20:04,758 --> 01:20:07,275 ♪ Everybody, everybody ♪ 1888 01:20:07,344 --> 01:20:09,551 ♪ Come take my hand, come take my hand ♪ 1889 01:20:09,655 --> 01:20:13,137 ♪ We'll walk this road together through the storm ♪ 1890 01:20:13,206 --> 01:20:15,482 ♪ Whatever the weather, cold or warm ♪ 1891 01:20:15,586 --> 01:20:18,620 ♪ Just letting you know that you're not alone ♪ 1892 01:20:18,689 --> 01:20:21,379 ♪ Holla if you feel like you've ♪ 1893 01:20:21,517 --> 01:20:25,172 ♪ Been down the same road ♪ 1894 01:20:25,275 --> 01:20:27,413 - When I was young, I was really using music, 1895 01:20:27,517 --> 01:20:30,931 and oftentimes Eminem's music, to self-medicate 1896 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,172 for my generalized anxiety disorder. 1897 01:20:33,275 --> 01:20:35,482 Just kind of having a hard time with life 1898 01:20:35,551 --> 01:20:37,034 and just processing different emotions, 1899 01:20:37,137 --> 01:20:40,793 from being bullied at school or wanting to date girls 1900 01:20:40,896 --> 01:20:42,379 and being rejected. 1901 01:20:42,517 --> 01:20:44,482 Like, you know, all the things that come with adolescence. 1902 01:20:45,724 --> 01:20:47,758 As I got older, I started at UNC and 1903 01:20:47,862 --> 01:20:50,206 led a team of researchers, and we analyzed 1904 01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:53,206 rap lyrics from 1998 to 2018. 1905 01:20:53,310 --> 01:20:58,172 We saw mental health references go from 8% to 44%. 1906 01:20:58,310 --> 01:21:00,310 Our findings were a reflection 1907 01:21:00,413 --> 01:21:01,896 of society changing, 1908 01:21:02,034 --> 01:21:04,379 and there were certain artists early on, 1909 01:21:04,517 --> 01:21:06,068 Eminem among them, 1910 01:21:06,206 --> 01:21:09,758 who really kind of normalized it 1911 01:21:09,862 --> 01:21:12,206 and made it OK to talk about these difficult feelings 1912 01:21:12,275 --> 01:21:13,448 and emotions. 1913 01:21:13,551 --> 01:21:14,896 [Eminem's "Walk On Water"] 1914 01:21:14,965 --> 01:21:17,103 - There's so much strength in vulnerability, 1915 01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:20,000 and that is such a powerful thing. 1916 01:21:20,068 --> 01:21:24,448 That's one of the reasons for Eminem's success. 1917 01:21:24,551 --> 01:21:26,241 When he's really vulnerable, 1918 01:21:26,344 --> 01:21:29,379 and he takes you there, when he's talking about himself, 1919 01:21:29,448 --> 01:21:31,551 and the downsides of himself, 1920 01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:34,206 those are the things that I gravitate to 1921 01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:36,034 more so than anything. 1922 01:21:37,275 --> 01:21:39,793 - ♪ I'm a Rubik's, a beautiful mess ♪ 1923 01:21:39,896 --> 01:21:41,034 ♪ At times juvenile, yes ♪ 1924 01:21:41,137 --> 01:21:43,448 ♪ I goof and I jest ♪ 1925 01:21:43,551 --> 01:21:45,034 ♪ A flawed human, I guess ♪ 1926 01:21:45,103 --> 01:21:47,000 ♪ But I'm doing my best to not ruin ♪ 1927 01:21:47,068 --> 01:21:48,655 ♪ Your expectations and meet 'em ♪ 1928 01:21:48,758 --> 01:21:50,206 ♪ But first the "Speedom" verse ♪ 1929 01:21:50,275 --> 01:21:51,896 ♪ Now, Big Sean, he's going too fast ♪ 1930 01:21:52,034 --> 01:21:54,103 ♪ Is he gonna shout or curse out his mom ♪ 1931 01:21:54,241 --> 01:21:56,551 ♪ There was a time I had the world by the balls ♪ 1932 01:21:56,655 --> 01:21:58,068 ♪ Eating out my palm ♪ 1933 01:21:58,172 --> 01:22:01,172 ♪ Every album song I was spazzing the fuck out on ♪ 1934 01:22:01,275 --> 01:22:02,931 ♪ And now I'm getting clowned and frowned on ♪ 1935 01:22:03,034 --> 01:22:05,172 ♪ But the only one who's looking down on me ♪ 1936 01:22:05,310 --> 01:22:07,103 ♪ That matters now's DeShaun ♪ 1937 01:22:07,172 --> 01:22:09,275 ♪ Am I lucky to be around this long ♪ 1938 01:22:09,379 --> 01:22:11,034 Eminem was one of 1939 01:22:11,137 --> 01:22:14,103 the most important people in this trend. 1940 01:22:14,172 --> 01:22:16,689 He made it more acceptable for other artists 1941 01:22:16,827 --> 01:22:19,137 to really talk about these complex emotions. 1942 01:22:19,275 --> 01:22:26,310 ♪ 1943 01:23:13,103 --> 01:23:18,413 - I really felt like those lyrics were written for me. 1944 01:23:18,517 --> 01:23:20,586 It's extremely therapeutic, 1945 01:23:20,689 --> 01:23:24,068 and I don't take that for granted. 1946 01:23:24,172 --> 01:23:27,000 - He really has gone through so much and struggled, 1947 01:23:27,103 --> 01:23:29,896 and I felt connected to him in a way 1948 01:23:30,034 --> 01:23:34,206 that I ended up changing my legal name to Marshall. 1949 01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:36,379 It's kind of a reminder to not feel like I have to 1950 01:23:36,482 --> 01:23:39,620 apologize for who I am. 1951 01:23:41,620 --> 01:23:44,896 [soft music] 1952 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:52,000 ♪ ♪ 1953 01:24:25,931 --> 01:24:28,379 - I originally wrote this letter to Eminem 1954 01:24:28,448 --> 01:24:30,413 three months ago, but I never sent it. 1955 01:24:35,275 --> 01:24:38,448 "Dear Eminem, I'm not sure you're going 1956 01:24:38,551 --> 01:24:40,137 "to get this or even read it. 1957 01:24:40,275 --> 01:24:42,137 "I'm just going to write down how I feel about everything, 1958 01:24:42,275 --> 01:24:44,448 "because, honestly, you're one of the only people that 1959 01:24:44,551 --> 01:24:46,758 "are helping me get through this, even if I'm just 1960 01:24:46,896 --> 01:24:48,413 "a random 14-year-old girl 1961 01:24:48,482 --> 01:24:50,586 "probably having one of those mood swings. 1962 01:24:50,655 --> 01:24:52,965 "Don't worry, I won't end up like your song 'Stan,' 1963 01:24:53,068 --> 01:24:54,758 "even though it's one of my favorites. 1964 01:24:54,862 --> 01:24:57,034 "But it will never beat 'Mockingbird.' 1965 01:24:57,103 --> 01:24:59,137 "That fucking song saved my life. 1966 01:24:59,241 --> 01:25:01,137 "My parents are constantly fighting about stuff 1967 01:25:01,206 --> 01:25:02,655 "that don't even matter. 1968 01:25:02,758 --> 01:25:05,620 "And it gets annoying, because when I say something about it, 1969 01:25:05,724 --> 01:25:07,137 "I get blamed for it. 1970 01:25:07,206 --> 01:25:11,034 "And the only one that I feel cares about me 1971 01:25:11,172 --> 01:25:13,344 "is my brother, because he was the one 1972 01:25:13,448 --> 01:25:15,793 "that had me listening to you ever since I was born. 1973 01:25:15,896 --> 01:25:17,793 "He's in his 20s, and I love him a lot, 1974 01:25:17,862 --> 01:25:21,000 and I wish my parents..." [laughs] 1975 01:25:21,137 --> 01:25:22,551 "Loved me as much as he did. 1976 01:25:22,655 --> 01:25:24,827 "I thought about how much you care about Hailie 1977 01:25:24,965 --> 01:25:26,275 "and just wish they cared about me 1978 01:25:26,344 --> 01:25:27,827 "as much as you did with her. 1979 01:25:27,896 --> 01:25:30,034 "It's crazy that your songs and even your silly interviews 1980 01:25:30,137 --> 01:25:32,137 "make me feel happier than my family ever did. 1981 01:25:32,206 --> 01:25:34,034 "I know I'm just another Eminem fan who 1982 01:25:34,137 --> 01:25:36,379 "has a sad backstory or some other shit like that, 1983 01:25:36,517 --> 01:25:37,793 "but you're such a cool guy. 1984 01:25:37,896 --> 01:25:40,551 "I admire you, and if my parents did, 1985 01:25:40,655 --> 01:25:42,586 "maybe they'd be an even better parent like you are. 1986 01:25:42,655 --> 01:25:44,827 Hope you get this, Kripa." 1987 01:25:44,931 --> 01:25:46,344 [laughs] 1988 01:25:46,448 --> 01:25:48,448 - Why do you think you chose him as an outlet 1989 01:25:48,517 --> 01:25:50,724 for your tough feelings? 1990 01:25:50,827 --> 01:25:52,137 Um, sorry, wait. 1991 01:25:52,241 --> 01:25:54,482 [laughs] 1992 01:25:54,620 --> 01:25:57,724 Um, probably because, like, 1993 01:25:57,827 --> 01:26:00,896 he's had a really tough childhood too, so I feel like, 1994 01:26:01,034 --> 01:26:02,931 um, he would relate a little bit. 1995 01:26:03,034 --> 01:26:08,827 Taking my feelings out with, like, writing something-- 1996 01:26:08,896 --> 01:26:10,172 sorry. 1997 01:26:10,241 --> 01:26:16,551 Um, I feel like it, like, makes me feel better. 1998 01:26:16,689 --> 01:26:19,551 [somber music] 1999 01:26:19,655 --> 01:26:22,551 [crying] 2000 01:26:22,655 --> 01:26:25,551 ♪ ♪ 2001 01:26:25,655 --> 01:26:28,413 I feel like it makes me feel better 2002 01:26:28,517 --> 01:26:30,586 'cause there's also other people out there 2003 01:26:30,689 --> 01:26:32,206 going through the same thing. 2004 01:26:32,275 --> 01:26:36,827 And so if they see what I'm going through 2005 01:26:36,896 --> 01:26:38,758 and what, like, Eminem went through, 2006 01:26:38,896 --> 01:26:40,689 maybe they'll know that a lot of people 2007 01:26:40,758 --> 01:26:42,241 also go through the same things 2008 01:26:42,379 --> 01:26:46,068 that, like, other people do. 2009 01:26:47,931 --> 01:26:50,586 - A big part of my tattoos have been about 2010 01:26:50,689 --> 01:26:54,413 facing up to my mental health. 2011 01:26:54,551 --> 01:26:57,206 A lot of people really didn't like my world record. 2012 01:26:57,275 --> 01:26:58,655 What a stupid record. 2013 01:26:58,724 --> 01:27:00,551 It's ridiculous. 2014 01:27:00,655 --> 01:27:05,000 It can hurt when--when people say horrible things. 2015 01:27:05,137 --> 01:27:06,793 I've been told that I need to be locked up, 2016 01:27:06,896 --> 01:27:08,793 I should be in a mental place. 2017 01:27:08,931 --> 01:27:12,620 [phone chiming] 2018 01:27:12,724 --> 01:27:14,724 Although I read the negative things, 2019 01:27:14,793 --> 01:27:16,275 and it's hurtful, 2020 01:27:16,379 --> 01:27:19,275 it would never change the fact that 2021 01:27:19,344 --> 01:27:22,275 I've continued to get the tattoos. 2022 01:27:22,344 --> 01:27:25,241 - Do you have a favorite Eminem song? 2023 01:27:25,310 --> 01:27:27,689 I usually say "Not Afraid." 2024 01:27:27,827 --> 01:27:30,482 There are a lot of positives, too, 2025 01:27:30,586 --> 01:27:33,310 because my Instagram has brought a lot of other fans 2026 01:27:33,413 --> 01:27:36,758 who really relate to me in a lot of ways. 2027 01:27:36,862 --> 01:27:38,793 And I met my husband. 2028 01:27:38,896 --> 01:27:40,310 [phone chimes] 2029 01:27:42,689 --> 01:27:45,000 He's a really big Eminem fan as well, 2030 01:27:45,103 --> 01:27:48,137 and he reached out to me. 2031 01:27:48,241 --> 01:27:50,896 It's really nice to have somebody that 2032 01:27:50,965 --> 01:27:53,241 gets the whole Eminem thing. 2033 01:27:53,310 --> 01:27:55,758 I get these impulsive thoughts in my head. 2034 01:27:55,827 --> 01:27:58,965 I was like, we should get married in Detroit. 2035 01:27:59,068 --> 01:28:00,965 We got married at St. Andrew's Hall, 2036 01:28:01,034 --> 01:28:04,517 which is one of the first places that Eminem performed. 2037 01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:08,862 And now we've got a son. 2038 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,275 Without Eminem, 2039 01:28:10,379 --> 01:28:13,517 I wouldn't have the life I have right now. 2040 01:28:13,655 --> 01:28:16,724 [soft music] 2041 01:28:21,655 --> 01:28:22,862 [doorbell jingles] 2042 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,724 [upbeat music] 2043 01:28:24,827 --> 01:28:29,068 - What do you think is meant by "The Death of Slim Shady"? 2044 01:28:29,206 --> 01:28:30,172 Who knows how he means it? 2045 01:28:30,275 --> 01:28:31,206 He's a satirist. 2046 01:28:31,344 --> 01:28:32,586 He could be, like, 2047 01:28:32,724 --> 01:28:34,413 saying let's cancel Slim Shady. 2048 01:28:34,551 --> 01:28:38,310 Which is kind of funny to even think about. 2049 01:28:38,379 --> 01:28:42,206 [laughs] Slim Shady can't be canceled. 2050 01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:45,586 - "The Death of Slim Shady" is a concept album, 2051 01:28:45,724 --> 01:28:47,275 so you gotta listen from start to finish, 2052 01:28:47,379 --> 01:28:50,137 um, and it's about Slim Shady, his character 2053 01:28:50,206 --> 01:28:54,482 that he started 25 years ago, and how his character 2054 01:28:54,551 --> 01:28:56,000 would be in this age. 2055 01:28:56,068 --> 01:28:59,172 - ♪ Sometimes I wonder what the old me'd say ♪ 2056 01:28:59,241 --> 01:29:00,620 ♪ If what ♪ 2057 01:29:00,724 --> 01:29:03,448 ♪ If he could see the way shit is today ♪ 2058 01:29:03,551 --> 01:29:06,379 ♪ He'd probably say that everything is gay ♪ 2059 01:29:06,448 --> 01:29:07,448 ♪ Like happy ♪ 2060 01:29:07,551 --> 01:29:09,551 ♪ What's my name, what's my name ♪ 2061 01:29:09,655 --> 01:29:11,551 ♪ Chicka Slim Shady ♪ 2062 01:29:11,620 --> 01:29:13,965 [explosion] 2063 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:21,655 - This album is about, I'm not holding back. 2064 01:29:21,793 --> 01:29:24,206 I'm gonna do everything I can to get canceled. 2065 01:29:24,275 --> 01:29:26,034 - ♪ If I think that shit, I'ma say that shit ♪ 2066 01:29:26,103 --> 01:29:27,896 ♪ Cancel me, what, OK, that's it ♪ 2067 01:29:27,965 --> 01:29:29,241 ♪ Go ahead, Paul, quit ♪ 2068 01:29:29,344 --> 01:29:30,931 - I'm not sure people actually understand now 2069 01:29:31,034 --> 01:29:32,275 that Slim Shady is a character. 2070 01:29:32,379 --> 01:29:34,379 I feel like the new album just offended more people, 2071 01:29:34,448 --> 01:29:37,068 but I think that that was kind of the intention. 2072 01:29:37,172 --> 01:29:38,896 The world is in a very different place 2073 01:29:38,965 --> 01:29:41,620 to where it was in 1999. 2074 01:29:41,758 --> 01:29:43,448 Gen Z wants to cancel him. 2075 01:29:43,551 --> 01:29:45,034 Nobody can cancel Eminem. 2076 01:29:45,103 --> 01:29:46,241 Jesus Christ himself 2077 01:29:46,344 --> 01:29:48,758 will have to come down and cancel Eminem, 2078 01:29:48,862 --> 01:29:50,241 and he ain't coming down either. 2079 01:29:50,344 --> 01:29:54,482 - As his fan base, we all grew into this whole family, 2080 01:29:54,620 --> 01:29:56,241 and we're going to protect this man 2081 01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:58,206 by any means necessary. 2082 01:29:58,275 --> 01:30:00,275 - Going online and seeing people 2083 01:30:00,379 --> 01:30:02,103 trying to cancel Eminem, 2084 01:30:02,241 --> 01:30:03,586 that is soft, 2085 01:30:03,689 --> 01:30:06,103 and fuck you if you don't like it. 2086 01:30:06,206 --> 01:30:08,551 Throw up a middle finger and let it linger. 2087 01:30:08,620 --> 01:30:11,241 I don't give a fuck, mostly. 2088 01:30:11,344 --> 01:30:12,517 Calm down, Slim. 2089 01:30:12,586 --> 01:30:14,344 We both made Eminem. 2090 01:30:14,448 --> 01:30:16,241 He's the best of both of us. 2091 01:30:16,344 --> 01:30:18,517 And, really, it's not about me or you. 2092 01:30:18,620 --> 01:30:21,241 It's about him and the fans. 2093 01:30:21,344 --> 01:30:23,172 Damn. 2094 01:30:23,275 --> 01:30:25,620 I don't even want to fucking admit it, 2095 01:30:25,724 --> 01:30:28,103 but your bitch ass is right. 2096 01:30:28,172 --> 01:30:29,551 I'm embarrassed. 2097 01:30:29,655 --> 01:30:31,655 When I'm in Paris, I'm embarrassed 2098 01:30:31,758 --> 01:30:33,724 of my parents' parrot. 2099 01:30:42,517 --> 01:30:45,068 I'm sure 200%, 1,000%. 2100 01:30:45,137 --> 01:30:46,827 [indistinct chatter] 2101 01:30:46,965 --> 01:30:49,482 - Everyone, no matter how old or young, 2102 01:30:49,586 --> 01:30:51,103 will appreciate Eminem's music. 2103 01:30:51,172 --> 01:30:54,551 - ♪ A-B-C-D, A-B-C-D ♪ 2104 01:30:54,620 --> 01:30:56,931 ♪ E-F-G, E-F-G ♪ 2105 01:30:57,034 --> 01:30:59,448 ♪ H-I-J-K, H-I-J-K ♪ 2106 01:30:59,551 --> 01:31:01,827 - People who have not been born yet 2107 01:31:01,896 --> 01:31:04,413 will follow his music, 2108 01:31:04,517 --> 01:31:05,827 reopen "The Slim Shady LP," 2109 01:31:05,931 --> 01:31:07,344 and love him from start to finish. 2110 01:31:07,448 --> 01:31:09,379 [bright music] 2111 01:31:09,517 --> 01:31:10,758 I'll be looking down proud, 2112 01:31:10,862 --> 01:31:13,344 like, yeah, damn straight, y'all. 2113 01:31:13,413 --> 01:31:14,862 You get that white tee on. 2114 01:31:14,965 --> 01:31:16,586 You get those baggy blue jeans. 2115 01:31:16,689 --> 01:31:18,206 For sure. Rock it. 2116 01:31:18,344 --> 01:31:21,517 - A hundred years from now, in the catalogs of catalogs, 2117 01:31:21,620 --> 01:31:24,448 you'll be able to go back and listen to "Lose Yourself" 2118 01:31:24,551 --> 01:31:28,724 or "The Way I Am," and you'll know Eminem was that guy. 2119 01:31:28,862 --> 01:31:30,517 - All great artists have the ability 2120 01:31:30,620 --> 01:31:32,206 to reinvent themselves. 2121 01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:34,586 And yet, I feel like every time a lot of artists 2122 01:31:34,689 --> 01:31:37,172 do that, they always sacrifice a little bit of something, 2123 01:31:37,241 --> 01:31:40,344 and Marshall's never sacrificed anything. 2124 01:31:40,413 --> 01:31:44,517 He's, like, remained true to the first day I met him. 2125 01:31:44,586 --> 01:31:46,517 - I'm just happy I went after my dreams 2126 01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:49,172 'cause it inspired another kid to go after his dreams, 2127 01:31:49,275 --> 01:31:50,379 you know? 2128 01:31:50,517 --> 01:31:53,379 The fact that he had enough personal empathy 2129 01:31:53,517 --> 01:31:57,586 to write something where 2130 01:31:57,724 --> 01:32:01,310 the fans' feelings are being considered 2131 01:32:01,413 --> 01:32:03,586 tells you who he is, and for that, 2132 01:32:03,689 --> 01:32:05,620 I love and respect him. 2133 01:32:05,758 --> 01:32:07,931 - It's a crazy thing when all of a sudden 2134 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,241 you go from being someone no one cares about 2135 01:32:11,310 --> 01:32:14,172 to someone that a lot of people care about. 2136 01:32:14,275 --> 01:32:17,965 What he's done with his life is extraordinary. 2137 01:32:18,068 --> 01:32:22,413 - He has grown to be a fantastic human being 2138 01:32:22,517 --> 01:32:26,655 that is really fucking dope at his craft. 2139 01:32:26,793 --> 01:32:30,586 He's an amazing father, and I can't wait to see 2140 01:32:30,689 --> 01:32:33,068 what he's going to turn out to be next. 2141 01:32:36,965 --> 01:32:40,413 - Coming here, were you expecting to see Eminem? 2142 01:32:40,517 --> 01:32:42,827 - Maybe. [laughs] 2143 01:32:42,931 --> 01:32:45,310 I don't-- that would be really cool. 2144 01:32:45,413 --> 01:32:48,068 Half yes, half no. 2145 01:32:48,137 --> 01:32:49,758 Yes and no. 2146 01:32:49,896 --> 01:32:51,034 I didn't really expect it, 2147 01:32:51,103 --> 01:32:52,413 but I had thoughts about it, you know? 2148 01:32:52,482 --> 01:32:56,586 - I was hoping that Eminem was going to be here. 2149 01:32:56,724 --> 01:32:57,965 He's a busy man. 2150 01:32:58,103 --> 01:32:59,275 He's got a song that he just dropped. 2151 01:32:59,413 --> 01:33:01,034 He's got an album that he's dropping soon. 2152 01:33:01,137 --> 01:33:02,551 I just wouldn't think he had the time. 2153 01:33:02,689 --> 01:33:04,137 - Oh, my God, what would I even do? 2154 01:33:04,206 --> 01:33:05,137 What would I even say? 2155 01:33:05,206 --> 01:33:07,620 - I would probably just throw up. 2156 01:33:07,689 --> 01:33:09,275 [laughs] I don't know. 2157 01:33:09,344 --> 01:33:11,793 - If I ever met Eminem, I would probably die. 2158 01:33:11,862 --> 01:33:13,482 I don't even know, man. 2159 01:33:13,586 --> 01:33:15,103 I'd be speechless. 2160 01:33:17,103 --> 01:33:18,379 2013. 2161 01:33:18,517 --> 01:33:20,862 He was in Paris for his new album. 2162 01:33:26,103 --> 01:33:28,482 And the car, they're going. 2163 01:33:28,551 --> 01:33:32,206 And I was like, no, I'm not going to-- 2164 01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:36,793 to see Marshall, and 15 seconds later, 2165 01:33:36,862 --> 01:33:38,827 the car stopped. 2166 01:33:42,137 --> 01:33:45,172 "Marshall want to see you." 2167 01:33:45,310 --> 01:33:49,379 And every fan who was there 2168 01:33:49,517 --> 01:33:52,137 turned their head on me. 2169 01:33:52,206 --> 01:33:54,724 He knew my name, so I was like, 2170 01:33:54,827 --> 01:33:57,620 holy shit, he knew my name. 2171 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,068 The bodyguard was like, 2172 01:34:17,206 --> 01:34:20,655 OK, OK, OK, Zolt, you go in the car. 2173 01:34:45,413 --> 01:34:46,896 Man, thank you. 2174 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,103 Thank you for your music, for everything. 2175 01:34:59,896 --> 01:35:02,241 When you're an artist like Marshall, 2176 01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:03,482 you don't have time. 2177 01:35:03,586 --> 01:35:06,068 You do not have time for anything. 2178 01:35:09,068 --> 01:35:10,482 [camera shutter clicks] 2179 01:35:15,827 --> 01:35:18,034 I think he probably was shocked 2180 01:35:18,137 --> 01:35:21,965 because nobody will tell him you have to go. 2181 01:35:22,034 --> 01:35:26,689 But, you know, I'm the guy who respect his time. 2182 01:35:44,241 --> 01:35:46,310 [engine rumbles] 2183 01:35:51,793 --> 01:35:58,862 ♪ ♪ 2184 01:36:12,758 --> 01:36:17,793 - I think that people imagine stans as being, 2185 01:36:17,862 --> 01:36:19,586 you know, violent and deranged. 2186 01:36:19,724 --> 01:36:23,724 But in reality, being a stan and being a fan 2187 01:36:23,827 --> 01:36:27,655 can actually be a positive and beautiful thing. 2188 01:36:29,758 --> 01:36:32,206 I've lost a lot of people in my life, 2189 01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:35,206 but the one thing that has really gotten me through 2190 01:36:35,310 --> 01:36:37,793 all those losses has been Eminem. 2191 01:36:37,862 --> 01:36:39,724 Eminem has always been a constant 2192 01:36:39,827 --> 01:36:42,517 throughout my entire life, and for a long time, 2193 01:36:42,620 --> 01:36:44,137 I really felt unlucky 2194 01:36:44,206 --> 01:36:46,275 because I wasn't able to meet him. 2195 01:36:46,379 --> 01:36:48,000 It's like the carrot's right there, 2196 01:36:48,068 --> 01:36:50,896 but it's like I can't figure out how to get to it. 2197 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,034 Now my mindset has changed, because I feel like 2198 01:36:53,137 --> 01:36:56,034 this documentary is a lot more personal 2199 01:36:56,137 --> 01:37:00,931 than it would be just me to Em saying, hi, huge fan, 2200 01:37:01,068 --> 01:37:02,482 take a picture. 2201 01:37:02,620 --> 01:37:05,310 Now he kind of can understand exactly how I've become a-- 2202 01:37:05,413 --> 01:37:07,482 like, how I've been a fan for so long 2203 01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:11,103 and, like, similar kind of struggles, 2204 01:37:11,241 --> 01:37:12,758 I guess, we've been through, 2205 01:37:12,827 --> 01:37:16,310 and just how his music has truly influenced my life 2206 01:37:16,413 --> 01:37:21,275 and helped me through really, you know, traumatic times. 2207 01:37:21,413 --> 01:37:24,931 - But a true die-hard fan really does, I think, 2208 01:37:25,034 --> 01:37:31,034 understand me and every aspect of me 2209 01:37:31,103 --> 01:37:35,172 and understands that I am just a regular person. 2210 01:37:35,275 --> 01:37:38,241 I'm just a fucking human being. 2211 01:37:40,241 --> 01:37:42,758 The reason they connect with me is because 2212 01:37:42,862 --> 01:37:45,344 they see some of themselves in me. 2213 01:37:48,793 --> 01:37:50,931 Maybe they were bullied as a kid. 2214 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,275 Maybe the world fucking dealt them a raw deal. 2215 01:37:56,413 --> 01:37:59,655 But for every young person that gets older 2216 01:37:59,793 --> 01:38:03,862 and wants to pay the world back... 2217 01:38:03,965 --> 01:38:07,758 that's the person that connects with me the most, 2218 01:38:07,827 --> 01:38:09,689 because they understand me, 2219 01:38:09,827 --> 01:38:11,689 and I feel like I understand them, 2220 01:38:11,827 --> 01:38:15,620 and I get them because they're really me. 2221 01:38:15,689 --> 01:38:19,034 The fans that have grown with me from day one 2222 01:38:19,172 --> 01:38:22,103 till now, it's, like, unbelievable 2223 01:38:22,172 --> 01:38:23,620 that they're still with me, 2224 01:38:23,689 --> 01:38:25,344 and I'm very blessed to this day 2225 01:38:25,482 --> 01:38:28,965 to still have people that ride for me like that. 2226 01:38:29,068 --> 01:38:30,965 To my fans, thank you. 2227 01:38:31,068 --> 01:38:33,000 I love y'all, and I am-- 2228 01:38:33,103 --> 01:38:35,793 I would not be here, if it was not for you. 2229 01:38:35,896 --> 01:38:40,000 So I owe you my life, 2230 01:38:40,103 --> 01:38:43,620 and that's who I do my music for is them, 2231 01:38:43,724 --> 01:38:45,586 and fuck everybody else. 2232 01:38:45,655 --> 01:38:49,344 Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em. 2233 01:38:49,482 --> 01:38:51,586 Eat a dick. 2234 01:38:51,689 --> 01:38:55,517 You don't like it, eat a fat dick. 2235 01:38:55,620 --> 01:38:58,275 [Dido's "Thank You"] 2236 01:38:58,344 --> 01:39:00,137 Hey, Em, it's Paul again. 2237 01:39:00,206 --> 01:39:04,689 I watched the movie, and we got to talk about the ending. 2238 01:39:04,793 --> 01:39:07,551 Give me a call back. 2239 01:39:07,620 --> 01:39:11,724 ♪ And I want to thank you ♪ 2240 01:39:11,827 --> 01:39:13,068 - All right, I only got one minute, 2241 01:39:13,172 --> 01:39:18,448 and I'm at work, and I'm at, like, 4% on my battery. 2242 01:39:18,551 --> 01:39:20,034 - OK, Gracie, one minute to do this, 2243 01:39:20,103 --> 01:39:21,655 so my daughter's gonna help me. 2244 01:39:21,758 --> 01:39:24,482 - Please excuse me. I just got up. 2245 01:39:24,586 --> 01:39:26,379 Um... 2246 01:39:26,448 --> 01:39:29,068 Marshall Mathers is... 2247 01:39:29,172 --> 01:39:31,241 - I can't believe I have this opportunity 2248 01:39:31,344 --> 01:39:34,275 even to make this video, and you might see this, dog. 2249 01:39:34,413 --> 01:39:37,172 Just know I wouldn't be me without you. 2250 01:39:37,241 --> 01:39:40,862 - I'm your biggest fan, Marshall Mathers/Eminem. 2251 01:39:40,931 --> 01:39:43,275 Detroit, baby, Detroit. 2252 01:39:43,413 --> 01:39:46,724 - I'm Lisa Mathers, and this is Sir Slim Shady Mathers II, 2253 01:39:46,862 --> 01:39:48,034 but we call him Shady for short. 2254 01:39:48,103 --> 01:39:50,896 - Just want you to know that I'm Em's biggest fan 2255 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,862 because I'm pretty much the female version of him. 2256 01:39:53,931 --> 01:39:56,241 - Was just married August 26th of last year 2257 01:39:56,344 --> 01:39:57,413 and walked down the aisle 2258 01:39:57,517 --> 01:39:59,344 to the instrumental to "Lose Yourself." 2259 01:39:59,413 --> 01:40:00,620 Bum, bum, bum, bum. 2260 01:40:00,724 --> 01:40:02,103 All my friends and family were like, 2261 01:40:02,206 --> 01:40:03,413 whoa, let's get it. 2262 01:40:03,517 --> 01:40:06,275 - I am Stan. Stan I am. 2263 01:40:06,413 --> 01:40:08,620 It's kind of like Dr. Seuss, but no. 2264 01:40:08,724 --> 01:40:10,620 I have two Eminem tattoos. 2265 01:40:10,724 --> 01:40:14,724 One on my chest. One on the other chest. 2266 01:40:14,862 --> 01:40:17,068 And a D12 tattoo. 2267 01:40:17,172 --> 01:40:21,551 - I listen to Eminem music every fucking single day. 2268 01:40:21,689 --> 01:40:24,241 I live Eminem, you can say. 2269 01:40:24,379 --> 01:40:28,344 Mr. Mathers, I love you. 2270 01:40:28,448 --> 01:40:30,310 From Japan. 2271 01:40:30,413 --> 01:40:32,724 - This is a piece of the tree of the old house 2272 01:40:32,793 --> 01:40:35,517 and a flower from the new house right here. 2273 01:40:35,586 --> 01:40:38,034 - Doesn't feel too great, but, at the same time, 2274 01:40:38,103 --> 01:40:39,068 it kind of does. 2275 01:40:39,172 --> 01:40:40,551 Hello, Eminem. 2276 01:40:40,620 --> 01:40:44,724 I'm a fan, and I listen to your music all the time. 2277 01:40:44,793 --> 01:40:47,379 Have a wonderful day and take care of your family. 2278 01:40:47,482 --> 01:40:48,793 Bye. 2279 01:40:48,896 --> 01:40:54,137 - ♪ Is having the best day of my life ♪ 2280 01:40:54,241 --> 01:41:01,344 ♪ ♪