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00:43:22,893 --> 00:43:24,520 They were making a water park, 803 00:43:24,645 --> 00:43:26,688 so they're excavating, and then, oh, 804 00:43:26,813 --> 00:43:30,150 they come upon a bunch of these stone ossuaries. 805 00:43:30,275 --> 00:43:32,360 One of them was particularly ornate. 806 00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:35,072 And it was the tradition of the first century 807 00:43:35,197 --> 00:43:38,117 to put the bones of the deceased in an ossuary. 808 00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:40,285 And they look at it inside, 809 00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:43,413 they examine the bones of about a 60-year-old man, 810 00:43:43,538 --> 00:43:48,502 and the name on it, "Caiaphas," the high priest, 811 00:43:48,627 --> 00:43:52,088 dated exactly to the time Caiaphas would have lived. 812 00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:55,050 Caiaphas is in the New Testament, and now we have his bones, 813 00:43:55,175 --> 00:43:57,887 not just the ossuary, but the bones themselves. 814 00:43:58,012 --> 00:43:59,680 It doesn't end. 815 00:43:59,805 --> 00:44:00,638 Isn't it ironic- 816 00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:02,098 - Yeah. - That as the world 817 00:44:02,223 --> 00:44:02,933 has become- 818 00:44:03,058 --> 00:44:04,727 - Yeah. - More and more secular, 819 00:44:04,852 --> 00:44:06,645 do you think that it's not accidental 820 00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:08,355 that God has chosen now 821 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,648 to speak back through the stones? 822 00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:13,860 If we're approaching, you know the end of time, 823 00:44:13,985 --> 00:44:18,823 God will reveal himself more and more dramatically. 824 00:44:18,948 --> 00:44:20,908 The evidence has piled up to a point 825 00:44:21,035 --> 00:44:23,578 that I think the only way 826 00:44:23,703 --> 00:44:25,997 not to deal with it is to look away. 827 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,750 They discovered the home 828 00:44:28,875 --> 00:44:32,922 of Jesus, Mary and Joseph in Nazareth. 829 00:44:33,047 --> 00:44:34,632 Almost no one knows that. 830 00:44:34,757 --> 00:44:36,883 Practically, the greatest thing you could discover, 831 00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:40,303 the childhood home of Jesus! 832 00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:43,848 And then, because of the milieu in which you move 833 00:44:43,973 --> 00:44:46,518 as an archeologist, you say, "Well, this is embarrassing. 834 00:44:46,643 --> 00:44:50,355 Can I talk about it in a way that sort of buries the lead?" 835 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,857 And that is 836 00:44:51,982 --> 00:44:53,483 exactly what happened. 837 00:44:53,608 --> 00:44:56,278 The whole excavation really started in 1880 838 00:44:56,403 --> 00:44:58,697 when some French nuns said, we wanna go to Nazareth, 839 00:44:58,822 --> 00:45:00,782 the home of Jesus, and we wanna build a convent. 840 00:45:00,907 --> 00:45:02,827 They start digging to build a convent. 841 00:45:02,952 --> 00:45:04,953 They find this ancient cistern, 842 00:45:05,078 --> 00:45:07,288 and they realize, "Oh, there's something here." 843 00:45:07,413 --> 00:45:10,333 So this is the headline that some women 844 00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:11,543 were doing some archeology. 845 00:45:11,668 --> 00:45:14,128 Not that these women who were nuns, 846 00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:17,298 who gave their whole lives over to serving Jesus, 847 00:45:17,423 --> 00:45:19,258 had discovered the home of Jesus. 848 00:45:19,383 --> 00:45:21,303 But it was about the fact that they were women. 849 00:45:21,428 --> 00:45:23,263 Those are the times in which we live. 850 00:45:25,682 --> 00:45:27,475 Biblical history is based on the idea 851 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,893 that history has a plot. 852 00:45:29,018 --> 00:45:29,853 Right. 853 00:45:29,978 --> 00:45:31,772 There's a beginning, there's a middle, 854 00:45:31,897 --> 00:45:33,190 and there's an end. - Right. 855 00:45:33,315 --> 00:45:34,983 One of the things that Cahn says 856 00:45:35,108 --> 00:45:38,903 is that as the plot reaches its climax, 857 00:45:39,028 --> 00:45:40,780 God and the devil 858 00:45:40,905 --> 00:45:45,243 would begin to make themselves more manifest. 859 00:45:45,368 --> 00:45:47,370 It makes sense that 860 00:45:47,495 --> 00:45:50,915 evil would become more palpably, explicitly evil. 861 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,793 We're seeing that now. 862 00:45:52,918 --> 00:45:55,420 If evidence is piling up more and more 863 00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:59,340 for the existence of God, for the historicity of the Bible, 864 00:45:59,467 --> 00:46:01,385 if you are adamantly against it, 865 00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:05,555 you have to rail against it more loudly or violently. 866 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,727 That's part of what I think this grand narrative is, 867 00:46:09,852 --> 00:46:12,813 which is the exposure of evil. 868 00:46:12,938 --> 00:46:14,523 People have nowhere to hide, 869 00:46:14,648 --> 00:46:16,317 and so the masks are coming off. 870 00:46:17,317 --> 00:46:18,527 I wanted to see 871 00:46:18,652 --> 00:46:22,447 these discoveries of biblical archeology firsthand. 872 00:46:22,572 --> 00:46:25,700 I started in the place where Israel itself started, 873 00:46:25,825 --> 00:46:29,497 Shiloh, in the region of Judea and Samaria. 874 00:46:29,622 --> 00:46:31,748 Some call it the West Bank. 875 00:46:31,873 --> 00:46:34,375 It's where the ancient Israelites came 876 00:46:34,502 --> 00:46:36,545 when they entered the Promised Land. 877 00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:40,340 Eliana Passentin is the International Director 878 00:46:40,465 --> 00:46:44,177 of the Regional Council for Judea and Samaria. 879 00:46:44,302 --> 00:46:47,305 And you live up at the top of the hill, 880 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:51,058 and you can see from the river to the sea. 881 00:46:51,185 --> 00:46:52,227 I wake up in the morning, 882 00:46:52,352 --> 00:46:55,730 first thing, and I can see Jordan, so that's the river. 883 00:46:55,855 --> 00:46:57,648 And then the afternoon, when the sun is setting, 884 00:46:57,773 --> 00:46:59,735 I have a beautiful view of the Mediterranean. 885 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,905 From the river to the sea is the entire state of Israel. 886 00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:07,283 Shiloh is Israel's first capital city before Jerusalem. 887 00:47:07,408 --> 00:47:10,078 So the ancient Israelites 888 00:47:10,203 --> 00:47:11,788 crossed the desert, 889 00:47:11,913 --> 00:47:13,748 and they came to the Promised Land, 890 00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:14,958 but they didn't go to Jerusalem. 891 00:47:15,083 --> 00:47:17,460 Joshua brings the children of Israel to Shiloh, 892 00:47:17,585 --> 00:47:19,547 establishes the first capital city, 893 00:47:19,672 --> 00:47:23,925 and this is where the tabernacle stands for 369 years. 894 00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:26,887 And we found ancient remnants of pottery everywhere, 895 00:47:27,012 --> 00:47:30,598 even in our backyard, from the time of the tabernacle. 896 00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:33,893 Eliana, what brings Shiloh to an end? 897 00:47:34,018 --> 00:47:35,728 We read the Book of Samuel, 898 00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:38,190 that Eli, the high priest, is here waiting. 899 00:47:38,315 --> 00:47:39,065 The children of Israel 900 00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:40,650 go to the battlefield, 901 00:47:40,775 --> 00:47:42,527 and they fight the Philistines. 902 00:47:42,652 --> 00:47:45,322 The messenger comes running from the battlefield, 903 00:47:45,447 --> 00:47:47,490 and he gives the bad news, 904 00:47:47,615 --> 00:47:51,328 that we lost the battle, his sons were killed, 905 00:47:51,453 --> 00:47:54,915 and the enemy took the Golden Holy Ark of the Covenant. 906 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,042 Eli hears this terrible news, 907 00:47:57,167 --> 00:47:59,502 falls down, breaks his neck, and dies. 908 00:47:59,628 --> 00:48:02,047 We uncover that there was a huge fire here 909 00:48:02,172 --> 00:48:03,715 exactly at that time. 910 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,718 We even have raisins that were burnt to a crisp 911 00:48:06,843 --> 00:48:08,928 in this pyre. 912 00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:11,807 It's one of the sites in Israel that the story of the Bible 913 00:48:11,932 --> 00:48:14,810 and the archeological finds are hand in hand. 914 00:48:14,935 --> 00:48:17,562 And I'm sure, Dinesh, that you can feel what I feel. 915 00:48:17,687 --> 00:48:18,855 It's a special feeling. 916 00:48:18,980 --> 00:48:21,900 And it's the feeling, really, of a massive convergence 917 00:48:22,025 --> 00:48:24,695 of a biblical truth, 918 00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:28,532 now supported and confirmed by archeological discovery. 919 00:48:28,657 --> 00:48:29,573 That's right. 920 00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:33,078 You mentioned that the highway right there, Highway 60, 921 00:48:33,203 --> 00:48:34,872 is the Highway of the Patriarchs. 922 00:48:34,997 --> 00:48:36,080 What do you mean by that? 923 00:48:36,205 --> 00:48:38,875 There's one artery of life in ancient times. 924 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,295 I'm gonna read this in Hebrew, and then I'll translate. 925 00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:48,510 "And there was the festival of the Lord 926 00:48:48,635 --> 00:48:51,763 from year to year in Shiloh, which is north of Bethel, 927 00:48:51,888 --> 00:48:54,725 east of the highway that goes from Bethel to Shechem 928 00:48:54,850 --> 00:48:56,225 on the south of Lebonah." 929 00:48:56,352 --> 00:48:59,270 Right here, in Hebrew, it says highway, 930 00:48:59,395 --> 00:49:02,190 and it's the main artery of life in ancient times, 931 00:49:02,315 --> 00:49:04,567 and it's the main artery of life today. 932 00:49:04,693 --> 00:49:06,653 And this is the land, you're saying, 933 00:49:06,778 --> 00:49:09,405 that Abraham and Joseph walked. 934 00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:12,325 And Jacob, right here. 935 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:14,493 Shiloh invokes the very beginning 936 00:49:14,618 --> 00:49:16,663 of the story of Israel, but in some ways, 937 00:49:16,788 --> 00:49:20,000 it is also connected with the end times. 938 00:49:20,125 --> 00:49:23,295 Jonathan Cahn spoke of red heifers. 939 00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:26,798 We found the very same red heifers in Shiloh. 940 00:49:26,923 --> 00:49:28,300 Larry Borntrager 941 00:49:28,425 --> 00:49:32,720 is a ranch hand from America looking after the red heifers. 942 00:49:32,845 --> 00:49:34,807 Larry, in the Bible, 943 00:49:34,932 --> 00:49:38,852 it talks about the temple being built again 944 00:49:38,977 --> 00:49:40,687 in the end times. 945 00:49:40,812 --> 00:49:42,063 Yeah. 946 00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:45,692 And for the temple to be built again, 947 00:49:45,817 --> 00:49:48,237 there would need to be services 948 00:49:48,362 --> 00:49:51,113 or rites performed in the temple. 949 00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:53,908 They would need to have the waters of purification, 950 00:49:54,033 --> 00:49:55,410 which according to Numbers 19, 951 00:49:55,535 --> 00:49:57,620 would be the ashes of the red heifer 952 00:49:57,745 --> 00:50:00,498 mixed in with living water, sprinkled on the people. 953 00:50:00,623 --> 00:50:03,585 So this practice goes back to the time of Moses? 954 00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:04,502 Yes. 955 00:50:04,627 --> 00:50:06,087 30 years ago, a farmer thought, 956 00:50:06,212 --> 00:50:09,007 "Maybe someday Israel might need a red heifer." 957 00:50:09,132 --> 00:50:10,967 Some years ago, some of the rabbis 958 00:50:11,092 --> 00:50:12,635 were looking for a red heifer in Israel. 959 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,597 They couldn't find any, so they advertised outside. 960 00:50:15,722 --> 00:50:17,807 This farmer said yes, he thinks he has some. 961 00:50:17,932 --> 00:50:20,310 - Where was that? - In Texas. 962 00:50:20,435 --> 00:50:22,853 - How'd they get here? - They came over by plane. 963 00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:25,857 Sometimes when people talk about Bible prophecy, 964 00:50:25,982 --> 00:50:29,903 they speak in very general and abstract terms, 965 00:50:30,028 --> 00:50:31,613 but here you have 966 00:50:31,738 --> 00:50:35,158 a group of rabbis and Jews 967 00:50:35,283 --> 00:50:39,620 who are anticipating the reconstruction of a temple 968 00:50:39,747 --> 00:50:42,832 and are making actual preparations for doing rites 969 00:50:42,957 --> 00:50:44,542 and services in it. 970 00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:45,835 That's the whole idea. 971 00:50:46,837 --> 00:50:49,798 Shiloh is a place of ancient biblical significance, 972 00:50:49,923 --> 00:50:53,760 and so it seems to be not inappropriate- 973 00:50:53,885 --> 00:50:55,303 - Exactly. - That these heifers 974 00:50:55,428 --> 00:50:57,680 are back in Shiloh. 975 00:50:57,805 --> 00:50:59,933 Yes. 976 00:51:00,058 --> 00:51:01,768 I went to a site in Jerusalem 977 00:51:01,893 --> 00:51:04,353 that is home to perhaps the greatest discovery 978 00:51:04,478 --> 00:51:08,400 in biblical archeology in the 21st century. 979 00:51:08,525 --> 00:51:09,692 Welcome to the City of David. 980 00:51:09,818 --> 00:51:11,193 Thank you very much. It's exciting. 981 00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:13,863 - Let's take a look. - Right, let's take a look. 982 00:51:15,032 --> 00:51:16,198 It's a very active excavation. 983 00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:20,620 This is, as we speak, uncovering Jerusalem's history 984 00:51:20,745 --> 00:51:22,747 and heritage right before our eyes. 985 00:51:22,872 --> 00:51:26,417 Ze'ev Orenstein is the Director of International Affairs 986 00:51:26,543 --> 00:51:28,795 for the City of David Foundation. 987 00:51:41,223 --> 00:51:42,850 Wow, let's look at this. 988 00:51:42,975 --> 00:51:43,935 What period is this now? 989 00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:46,062 So this is the Hellenistic period. 990 00:51:46,187 --> 00:51:50,442 So, a little bit around the second temple was formed. 991 00:51:50,567 --> 00:51:51,777 It's difficult work. 992 00:51:52,777 --> 00:51:54,070 You have to be gentle, but also tough. 993 00:51:54,195 --> 00:51:54,988 Yeah. 994 00:51:57,198 --> 00:52:00,535 Now, David was the greatest 995 00:52:00,660 --> 00:52:04,580 of the kings of the Hebrew scriptures. 996 00:52:04,705 --> 00:52:07,917 How was his palace, how did you discover it? 997 00:52:08,042 --> 00:52:09,502 The year was 2005. 998 00:52:09,627 --> 00:52:12,505 Our visitor center is directly above our heads. 999 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:14,007 All of this is underground. 1000 00:52:14,132 --> 00:52:18,052 One morning, Dr. Eilat Mazar, a world-renowned archeologist, 1001 00:52:18,178 --> 00:52:21,263 she comes into our offices and says to us, 1002 00:52:21,388 --> 00:52:23,392 "You need to move your visitor center. 1003 00:52:23,517 --> 00:52:28,188 Beneath your feet, you will find the palace of King David." 1004 00:52:28,313 --> 00:52:29,230 If you have a city on a hill, 1005 00:52:29,355 --> 00:52:31,817 what part of the hill would you expect to find a palace? 1006 00:52:31,942 --> 00:52:32,775 The top of the hill. 1007 00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:34,735 She says, "This is the top of the City of David, 1008 00:52:34,862 --> 00:52:35,987 this is where you'll find the palace." 1009 00:52:36,112 --> 00:52:38,240 I say, "Dr. Mazar, with all due respect, 1010 00:52:38,365 --> 00:52:40,658 what else do you have to support your theory?" 1011 00:52:40,783 --> 00:52:43,828 She shows us a royal Phoenician capital. 1012 00:52:43,953 --> 00:52:46,623 And she says that this royal Phoenician capital 1013 00:52:46,748 --> 00:52:48,208 found some 60 years ago, 1014 00:52:48,333 --> 00:52:50,793 on the slope that we're standing atop right now, 1015 00:52:50,918 --> 00:52:53,170 proves that where we're standing 1016 00:52:53,297 --> 00:52:56,298 is, in fact, the location of King David's palace. 1017 00:52:56,423 --> 00:53:00,637 And she opens up the Bible to 2 Samuel, chapter 5, 1018 00:53:00,762 --> 00:53:04,182 which recounts the story of how David conquers Jerusalem 1019 00:53:04,307 --> 00:53:05,225 and makes it his capital. 1020 00:53:05,350 --> 00:53:07,268 He reaches out to his neighbors in the north, 1021 00:53:07,393 --> 00:53:09,437 the Phoenicians, and it says, 1022 00:53:09,562 --> 00:53:13,525 "King Hiram of Tyre sent envoys to David with cedar logs, 1023 00:53:13,650 --> 00:53:15,568 carpenters and stonemasons, 1024 00:53:15,693 --> 00:53:18,238 and they built a palace for David." 1025 00:53:18,363 --> 00:53:19,948 Why do we find a royal Phoenician capital 1026 00:53:20,073 --> 00:53:21,700 here in the City of David? 1027 00:53:21,825 --> 00:53:25,120 Because it was the Phoenicians who built David's palace. 1028 00:53:25,245 --> 00:53:28,707 They begin to dig, and they find to the north, to the east, 1029 00:53:28,832 --> 00:53:30,875 walls up to 20 feet thick. 1030 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,627 Dr. Mazar finds at the base of the walls, 1031 00:53:32,752 --> 00:53:34,462 pottery and other organic material, 1032 00:53:34,587 --> 00:53:38,717 which she dates to 3,000 years ago, to the time of David. 1033 00:53:38,842 --> 00:53:42,928 This was the royal government center of the Davidic dynasty. 1034 00:53:43,053 --> 00:53:45,723 This was the original Capitol Hill. 1035 00:53:45,848 --> 00:53:47,350 There's a whole group of scholars 1036 00:53:47,475 --> 00:53:49,143 known as the Copenhagen School, 1037 00:53:49,268 --> 00:53:50,353 and they would have said to you, 1038 00:53:50,478 --> 00:53:52,897 "Prove to us, not using the Bible, 1039 00:53:53,022 --> 00:53:55,858 that there was a historic David, some 3,000 years ago." 1040 00:53:55,983 --> 00:53:59,195 Prior to 1993, you could not do it. 1041 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,238 There was an excavation in Israel's north 1042 00:54:01,363 --> 00:54:02,865 in a place called Tel Dan, 1043 00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:05,410 where a large stone inscription is unearthed, 1044 00:54:05,535 --> 00:54:08,830 dating to about 100 years or so after the time of David. 1045 00:54:10,165 --> 00:54:11,708 And this inscription is attributed 1046 00:54:11,833 --> 00:54:14,377 to a man named King Hazael of Aram. 1047 00:54:14,502 --> 00:54:15,712 Aram is modern-day Syria, 1048 00:54:15,837 --> 00:54:18,088 and this King Hazael is also mentioned in the Bible 1049 00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:19,423 in 2 Kings. 1050 00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:22,677 And this king, the inscription tells us, was in a good mood. 1051 00:54:22,802 --> 00:54:23,553 Why? 1052 00:54:23,678 --> 00:54:25,430 Because it says he had won 1053 00:54:25,555 --> 00:54:28,392 a major military victory over a king 1054 00:54:28,517 --> 00:54:31,518 from the House of David. 1055 00:54:31,645 --> 00:54:34,397 And if there's a House of David, what does that mean? 1056 00:54:34,522 --> 00:54:36,065 - There was a King David. - There was a David. 1057 00:54:36,190 --> 00:54:37,400 - The Davidic line. - That's right. 1058 00:54:37,525 --> 00:54:39,110 And so today, virtually everyone agrees 1059 00:54:39,235 --> 00:54:40,653 there was a historic David. 1060 00:54:42,238 --> 00:54:43,197 A person relates to the Bible. 1061 00:54:43,323 --> 00:54:44,698 For many it's a book of faith. 1062 00:54:44,823 --> 00:54:46,660 You believe, or you don't believe. 1063 00:54:46,785 --> 00:54:49,037 Yet, many people today say, "I don't just want to believe. 1064 00:54:49,162 --> 00:54:50,622 I also want to know 1065 00:54:50,747 --> 00:54:52,290 are the people who march through 1066 00:54:52,415 --> 00:54:54,375 the pages of the Bible, 1067 00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:55,668 were they real people?" 1068 00:54:55,793 --> 00:54:58,588 And the discoveries being made here in the City of David 1069 00:54:58,713 --> 00:55:01,590 are showing that Jerusalem's biblical heritage 1070 00:55:01,717 --> 00:55:05,637 is not simply a matter of faith, but a matter of fact. 1071 00:55:05,762 --> 00:55:06,470 It's real. 1072 00:55:06,595 --> 00:55:10,975 Where we're standing over here, a small seal was unearthed, 1073 00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:13,645 and the name on the seal in ancient Hebrew writing, 1074 00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:15,688 dating back some 2,400 years, 1075 00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:19,358 was Nathan-Melek, servant of the king. 1076 00:55:19,483 --> 00:55:22,112 If you open up 2 Kings 23:11, 1077 00:55:22,237 --> 00:55:26,032 you find that this Nathan-Melek was a royal steward 1078 00:55:26,157 --> 00:55:30,120 to King Josiah, direct descendant of King David. 1079 00:55:30,245 --> 00:55:33,915 His royal chamberlain was somewhere in this area over here. 1080 00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:42,048 The Pilgrimage Road has been called 1081 00:55:42,173 --> 00:55:44,550 the most significant archeological discovery 1082 00:55:44,675 --> 00:55:46,468 of the last 100 years. 1083 00:55:46,593 --> 00:55:49,138 This is what I call the biblical superhighway. 1084 00:55:49,263 --> 00:55:50,682 Anywhere that you wanted 1085 00:55:50,807 --> 00:55:53,518 to go in Jerusalem 2,000 years ago, 1086 00:55:53,643 --> 00:55:55,895 this was the road that would take you there, 1087 00:55:56,020 --> 00:55:57,813 from the Pool of Siloam 1088 00:55:57,938 --> 00:56:00,150 at the southern end of the city of David, 1089 00:56:00,275 --> 00:56:03,487 all the way up along the half-mile pilgrimage journey, 1090 00:56:03,612 --> 00:56:05,322 up to the temple on the Temple Mount. 1091 00:56:05,447 --> 00:56:06,155 And what you would have 1092 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,575 along the sides of the Pilgrimage Road, shops, stalls. 1093 00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:13,203 And the Pool of Siloam was a purification spot. 1094 00:56:13,328 --> 00:56:15,082 Before you can go up to the temple, 1095 00:56:15,207 --> 00:56:16,415 you have to cleanse yourself. 1096 00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:18,460 The Pool of Siloam in the City of David 1097 00:56:18,585 --> 00:56:22,005 was perhaps the largest ritual bath anywhere in the world. 1098 00:56:23,297 --> 00:56:25,092 With regard to Jesus, 1099 00:56:25,217 --> 00:56:28,470 what are the chances that he walked 1100 00:56:28,595 --> 00:56:29,928 this very road? 1101 00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:33,098 Conservatively speaking? 100%. 1102 00:56:33,223 --> 00:56:36,227 He was in Jerusalem, and he was Jewish. 1103 00:56:36,352 --> 00:56:37,645 He would have gone with all the Jews 1104 00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:39,897 at that time to cleanse at the Pool of Siloam. 1105 00:56:40,022 --> 00:56:41,858 He would have then walked up the flagstones 1106 00:56:41,983 --> 00:56:43,610 that we're standing on right now, 1107 00:56:43,735 --> 00:56:46,070 of the Pilgrimage Road running through the City of David, 1108 00:56:46,195 --> 00:56:49,115 coming out at the temple on the Temple Mount. 1109 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:52,327 If you give me your hand, you can see over here, 1110 00:56:52,452 --> 00:56:56,330 that that is ash from 1111 00:56:56,455 --> 00:56:59,333 the fires that destroyed Jerusalem 1112 00:56:59,458 --> 00:57:03,045 2,000 years ago, the year 70, 1113 00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:04,880 when the Romans burned Jerusalem to the ground. 1114 00:57:07,008 --> 00:57:11,678 This coin, it goes back 66 to 70 C.E., 1115 00:57:11,805 --> 00:57:14,640 during the period known as the Great Jewish Revolt. 1116 00:57:14,765 --> 00:57:17,185 Jewish people are fighting for their freedom, 1117 00:57:17,310 --> 00:57:20,480 fighting against the Roman occupation of Jerusalem. 1118 00:57:20,605 --> 00:57:22,565 At that time, the coins had no monetary value. 1119 00:57:22,690 --> 00:57:24,733 So what's the point of all this? 1120 00:57:24,858 --> 00:57:27,278 These coins would say in ancient Hebrew writing, 1121 00:57:27,403 --> 00:57:28,780 "For the freedom of Zion." 1122 00:57:28,905 --> 00:57:33,325 Represent a hope, a wish, a dream, and a prayer 1123 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:35,703 that one day, their descendants 1124 00:57:35,828 --> 00:57:38,582 would return to Jerusalem as sovereign. 1125 00:57:38,707 --> 00:57:42,043 It took 2,000 years, but there is a free Jerusalem today, 1126 00:57:42,168 --> 00:57:43,962 the capital of the state of Israel. 1127 00:57:44,087 --> 00:57:46,005 And it's worth noting that 1128 00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:49,300 Israel was invaded by the Assyrians, 1129 00:57:49,425 --> 00:57:51,802 the Babylonians, the Romans, 1130 00:57:51,928 --> 00:57:53,680 but the Jews are still here. 1131 00:57:53,805 --> 00:57:57,683 The people who walked on this road 2,000 years ago, 1132 00:57:57,808 --> 00:58:00,853 it's their descendants who will walk on it once again. 1133 00:58:02,397 --> 00:58:05,858 One of the most remarkable things to me about all this 1134 00:58:05,983 --> 00:58:09,695 is that there does seem to be, in the face of facts, 1135 00:58:09,820 --> 00:58:11,907 a spirit of denialism. 1136 00:58:12,032 --> 00:58:14,033 The story that they've been telling 1137 00:58:14,158 --> 00:58:15,827 for the last series of decades 1138 00:58:15,952 --> 00:58:18,287 is that Israel is a colonial project, 1139 00:58:18,412 --> 00:58:19,997 that the Jewish people have no history, 1140 00:58:20,122 --> 00:58:21,875 no heritage in this land in general, 1141 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,043 and certainly not in Jerusalem in particular. 1142 00:58:24,168 --> 00:58:27,047 The problem with that is the City of David. 1143 00:58:27,172 --> 00:58:31,217 We are what you could call an inconvenient truth. 1144 00:58:36,138 --> 00:58:37,348 North of Jerusalem 1145 00:58:37,473 --> 00:58:39,975 is the ancient city of Megiddo, 1146 00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:44,980 layered with centuries of war, worship and warning. 1147 00:58:45,105 --> 00:58:46,732 This was the stage 1148 00:58:46,857 --> 00:58:49,527 for some of history's earliest recorded battles. 1149 00:58:49,652 --> 00:58:52,822 Recent discoveries of Egyptian pottery at this site 1150 00:58:52,947 --> 00:58:55,408 confirm an epic battle documented 1151 00:58:55,533 --> 00:58:57,618 in 2 Kings and Chronicles 1152 00:58:57,743 --> 00:59:01,830 between King Josiah and an Egyptian pharaoh. 1153 00:59:01,957 --> 00:59:05,335 I spoke with Israeli archeologist, Ido Keynan. 1154 00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:08,003 Ido, how long have you been in the field of archeology? 1155 00:59:08,128 --> 00:59:10,172 For about the last 40 years. 1156 00:59:10,298 --> 00:59:12,383 You do your work with the Bible, 1157 00:59:12,508 --> 00:59:14,260 which you called your compass. 1158 00:59:14,385 --> 00:59:15,928 - Yes. - In one hand. 1159 00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:18,723 And then the tools of archeology in the other. 1160 00:59:18,848 --> 00:59:19,557 So true. 1161 00:59:19,682 --> 00:59:22,227 The compass, the scriptures, 1162 00:59:22,352 --> 00:59:25,772 that helps me understand what I'm looking for. 1163 00:59:25,897 --> 00:59:30,067 And are you aware of any significant archeological finding 1164 00:59:30,192 --> 00:59:32,528 that contradicts what you are holding in your hand, 1165 00:59:32,653 --> 00:59:34,072 namely, the Bible? 1166 00:59:34,197 --> 00:59:36,032 No. 1167 00:59:36,157 --> 00:59:39,160 What is the significance of this place, Megiddo? 1168 00:59:39,285 --> 00:59:42,247 There were about 37 battles 1169 00:59:42,372 --> 00:59:44,082 that took place here, 1170 00:59:44,207 --> 00:59:49,170 starting from, what was it, 2500 years B.C. and 1973. 1171 00:59:51,297 --> 00:59:54,050 Over here there is an Israeli airbase, 1172 00:59:54,175 --> 00:59:57,345 and it was attacked during that time by Syria. 1173 00:59:57,470 --> 01:00:00,432 What you're saying is that this place has been 1174 01:00:00,557 --> 01:00:02,975 the center of constant battles. 1175 01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:05,437 I don't say that, it's the scriptures. 1176 01:00:05,562 --> 01:00:08,690 This place, it says in Revelations, 1177 01:00:08,815 --> 01:00:11,733 this is where the last battle will take place. 1178 01:00:11,858 --> 01:00:14,737 Megiddo is the root of the term Armageddon, 1179 01:00:14,862 --> 01:00:18,532 a term used in the context of the last days. 1180 01:00:18,658 --> 01:00:21,285 You don't believe that the final and apocalyptic clash 1181 01:00:21,410 --> 01:00:25,163 between good and evil is purely metaphorical. 1182 01:00:25,288 --> 01:00:28,583 You believe that there will be an actual confrontation, 1183 01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:31,337 and it will in some way involve Megiddo. 1184 01:00:32,547 --> 01:00:35,215 Every word you just said, it's exactly it. 1185 01:00:38,552 --> 01:00:40,888 In the hills of Galilee lies Nazareth, 1186 01:00:41,013 --> 01:00:42,890 the hometown of Jesus. 1187 01:00:43,015 --> 01:00:45,100 Today, Nazareth is a vibrant city 1188 01:00:45,225 --> 01:00:47,687 with a predominantly Muslim population, 1189 01:00:47,812 --> 01:00:51,607 yet it remains a key Christian pilgrimage destination. 1190 01:01:04,453 --> 01:01:06,705 This is the place of the Annunciation, 1191 01:01:06,830 --> 01:01:10,710 where Mary was given the announcement that she's pregnant. 1192 01:01:15,213 --> 01:01:18,425 We see here the remainings of Nazareth, 1193 01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:20,595 going back 2,000 years ago. 1194 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,097 People have an idea 1195 01:01:22,222 --> 01:01:25,642 that Nazareth was a big city. 1196 01:01:25,767 --> 01:01:26,517 No. 1197 01:01:26,642 --> 01:01:29,353 Remember what the Scriptures tell us? 1198 01:01:29,478 --> 01:01:32,607 What good can come out of Nazareth? 1199 01:01:32,732 --> 01:01:34,233 Well, why do they say that? 1200 01:01:34,358 --> 01:01:37,403 Nazareth was a small village 1201 01:01:37,528 --> 01:01:41,073 of maybe 100 to 200 people. 1202 01:01:41,198 --> 01:01:42,242 It was small. 1203 01:01:42,367 --> 01:01:44,077 And today in Nazareth, 1204 01:01:44,202 --> 01:01:46,870 it looks like there's been a demographic shift. 1205 01:01:46,995 --> 01:01:49,623 Ooh-hoo. 60 years ago, okay, 1206 01:01:49,748 --> 01:01:53,252 about 70% Christian Arabs, 1207 01:01:53,377 --> 01:01:56,422 mainly from the Eastern churches, right? 1208 01:01:56,547 --> 01:01:59,342 And 30% Muslims. 1209 01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:01,802 Today, it's just the opposite. 1210 01:02:01,927 --> 01:02:05,180 In the place where Jesus was raised today, 1211 01:02:05,305 --> 01:02:06,557 70% Muslims. 1212 01:02:06,682 --> 01:02:07,725 Yes. 1213 01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:11,478 We continue further north 1214 01:02:11,603 --> 01:02:13,105 to the Sea of Galilee. 1215 01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:16,275 Along its shore, lies the ruins of Capernaum, 1216 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,443 once a humble fishing village, 1217 01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:21,238 now a silent witness to history. 1218 01:02:23,490 --> 01:02:26,702 It was here that Jesus called fishermen like Peter, 1219 01:02:26,827 --> 01:02:29,663 Andrew, James and John to follow him. 1220 01:02:29,788 --> 01:02:34,793 Ido, Mark, chapter 1, verse 21, Jesus came to Capernaum, 1221 01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:38,755 and on the Sabbath, he went to the synagogue 1222 01:02:38,882 --> 01:02:40,717 where he taught. 1223 01:02:40,842 --> 01:02:42,343 Is this where he taught? 1224 01:02:42,468 --> 01:02:43,887 This is where he taught. 1225 01:02:44,012 --> 01:02:46,472 But the synagogue we are standing in now 1226 01:02:47,432 --> 01:02:51,060 is from a later period, from 400 years later. 1227 01:02:51,185 --> 01:02:52,812 So this is Jesus 1228 01:02:52,937 --> 01:02:56,023 saying, "You, Capernaum, 1229 01:02:56,148 --> 01:02:58,317 will you be exalted to heaven? 1230 01:02:58,442 --> 01:03:01,987 You will be brought down to Hades." 1231 01:03:02,112 --> 01:03:04,948 Jesus is predicting that this place will go down 1232 01:03:05,073 --> 01:03:06,783 and will not come back up again. 1233 01:03:06,908 --> 01:03:07,618 Exactly. 1234 01:03:07,743 --> 01:03:11,413 Every verse, every sentence, every chapter 1235 01:03:11,538 --> 01:03:12,998 are there to be fulfilled. 1236 01:03:13,123 --> 01:03:16,627 And it took 600 years 1237 01:03:16,752 --> 01:03:18,922 'til this place was leveled out. 1238 01:03:19,047 --> 01:03:22,132 Ultimately, Jesus's prophecy came true. 1239 01:03:22,258 --> 01:03:24,010 There's nothing here in Capernaum now 1240 01:03:24,135 --> 01:03:26,220 except for the remnants. 1241 01:03:26,345 --> 01:03:27,095 Exactly. 1242 01:03:28,055 --> 01:03:28,973 And right next door to us 1243 01:03:29,098 --> 01:03:30,642 are the ruins of a dwelling. 1244 01:03:30,767 --> 01:03:34,062 The dwelling is sometimes described as Peter's house, 1245 01:03:34,187 --> 01:03:36,605 which is not exactly correct, whose house is it? 1246 01:03:36,730 --> 01:03:38,983 It's St. Peter's mother-in-law house. 1247 01:03:39,108 --> 01:03:43,487 In Mark it says, "And Jesus came to Capernaum 1248 01:03:43,612 --> 01:03:47,408 to St. Peter mother-in-law house, as she was sick. 1249 01:03:47,533 --> 01:03:50,537 She was in bed, and he healed her." 1250 01:03:55,165 --> 01:03:57,918 Biblical archeology is confirmation 1251 01:03:58,043 --> 01:04:01,297 of the ancient presence of the Jews in Israel. 1252 01:04:01,422 --> 01:04:03,423 Far from being colonizers, 1253 01:04:03,548 --> 01:04:07,220 the Jews are the original and indigenous inhabitants 1254 01:04:07,345 --> 01:04:08,595 of the region. 1255 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,557 Moreover, the Jews of today are the descendants 1256 01:04:11,682 --> 01:04:15,143 of the ancient Israelites, the Jews of the Bible. 1257 01:04:16,312 --> 01:04:19,648 Today's Jews speak the same language, eat the same food, 1258 01:04:19,773 --> 01:04:21,733 perform the same rites and rituals, 1259 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:23,610 and worship the same God. 1260 01:04:27,907 --> 01:04:30,868 Biblical archeology also shows that the Hebrew 1261 01:04:30,993 --> 01:04:33,745 and Christian scriptures are corroborated 1262 01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,998 in the seals and the stones. 1263 01:04:37,708 --> 01:04:41,253 As Ze'ev Orenstein said, "It's not simply a matter of faith, 1264 01:04:41,378 --> 01:04:43,923 it's also a matter of fact." 1265 01:04:46,675 --> 01:04:49,595 Jonathan Cahn's view of the Dragon's Prophecy 1266 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,138 is supported by history. 1267 01:04:52,265 --> 01:04:55,810 But what are the moral and practical implications? 1268 01:04:56,810 --> 01:04:59,522 Israel has dropped 1269 01:04:59,647 --> 01:05:03,192 more bombs in the last 10 days 1270 01:05:03,317 --> 01:05:06,278 than we dropped in a whole year in Afghanistan! 1271 01:05:06,403 --> 01:05:09,073 There's clearly growing consensus in the council 1272 01:05:09,198 --> 01:05:11,825 that it must do more to hold Israel accountable. 1273 01:05:11,950 --> 01:05:14,245 They're shooting and killing civilians 1274 01:05:14,370 --> 01:05:16,330 at humanitarian aid hubs. 1275 01:05:16,455 --> 01:05:17,205 Dozens of them 1276 01:05:17,332 --> 01:05:19,042 on a daily basis. - Piers, are we gonna 1277 01:05:19,167 --> 01:05:21,210 put a sock in that? - Little children are getting- 1278 01:05:21,335 --> 01:05:22,378 - Yeah, you're right, Piers. - Shot in the face. 1279 01:05:22,503 --> 01:05:23,337 - Piers. - It is a good time- 1280 01:05:23,462 --> 01:05:24,630 - It's a genocide. - Piers, you are- 1281 01:05:24,755 --> 01:05:25,422 It's a genocide. 1282 01:05:25,547 --> 01:05:28,092 When regimes start wars, 1283 01:05:28,217 --> 01:05:31,553 they are responsible for the fate of their own children. 1284 01:05:31,678 --> 01:05:35,057 I mean, if I come and do a home invasion on you, 1285 01:05:35,182 --> 01:05:37,560 right, and threaten your children and you strike back, 1286 01:05:37,685 --> 01:05:41,105 and then I go grab my own kids and stick them in front of me 1287 01:05:41,230 --> 01:05:42,898 and say, "Don't shoot, don't shoot, 1288 01:05:43,023 --> 01:05:44,692 because I'm holding my own kids." 1289 01:05:44,817 --> 01:05:45,608 The truth of it is, 1290 01:05:45,735 --> 01:05:48,778 I am putting my kids in jeopardy, not you. 1291 01:05:49,072 --> 01:05:52,575 The controversial issue of civilian casualties 1292 01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:55,745 was addressed by Mosab Hassan Yousef, 1293 01:05:55,870 --> 01:05:59,332 who is the son of the one of the founders of Hamas. 1294 01:05:59,457 --> 01:06:02,460 His father has publicly called for his death. 1295 01:06:03,668 --> 01:06:07,172 Israel did everything within their ability to minimize 1296 01:06:07,297 --> 01:06:09,633 the civilian casualty in Gaza. 1297 01:06:09,758 --> 01:06:12,512 While Hamas, 1298 01:06:12,637 --> 01:06:15,973 while Hamas did everything in their ability 1299 01:06:16,098 --> 01:06:16,890 to maximize- - Order! Order! 1300 01:06:17,015 --> 01:06:18,933 - The civilian casualties. - Order. 1301 01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:19,852 The speaker will be heard. 1302 01:06:19,977 --> 01:06:22,438 Hamas did everything within their ability 1303 01:06:22,563 --> 01:06:25,315 to maximize the civilian casualty 1304 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,527 for political and financial gain, for global sympathy, 1305 01:06:28,652 --> 01:06:31,988 and they succeeded of fooling so many people. 1306 01:06:32,990 --> 01:06:34,117 Hamas confesses 1307 01:06:34,242 --> 01:06:37,077 it's desire to hurt its own people. 1308 01:06:56,347 --> 01:06:58,515 If Israel wanted to get rid of Gaza, 1309 01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,892 it would, a long time ago. 1310 01:07:00,017 --> 01:07:02,812 Israel has the power to erase Gaza if it wants to. 1311 01:07:02,937 --> 01:07:04,147 It didn't do that 1312 01:07:04,272 --> 01:07:07,483 because we're trying to eliminate Hamas bases 1313 01:07:07,608 --> 01:07:11,153 without hurting as many people as we can. 1314 01:07:14,698 --> 01:07:18,993 They stole from me innocence, time, love. 1315 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,122 There's a limit to what they can steal. 1316 01:07:21,247 --> 01:07:23,540 I think that I'm not allowed to stop, 1317 01:07:23,665 --> 01:07:27,293 because there's so many stories that we'll never hear. 1318 01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:28,837 And those people, 1319 01:07:28,962 --> 01:07:31,215 they actually knew what the value of life is. 1320 01:07:31,340 --> 01:07:32,800 They actually enjoyed life. 1321 01:07:32,925 --> 01:07:36,345 So I think it's like I owe them to keep dancing. 1322 01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:38,013 - All these people? - Yes. 1323 01:07:39,848 --> 01:07:42,893 There's no doubt that the civilian carnage 1324 01:07:43,018 --> 01:07:45,772 in Gaza remains a moral horror. 1325 01:07:45,897 --> 01:07:49,150 Even if Israel is justified in its actions, 1326 01:07:49,275 --> 01:07:52,778 who can justify the deaths of women and children? 1327 01:07:52,903 --> 01:07:55,990 For me, the civilian deaths on both sides 1328 01:07:56,115 --> 01:07:59,452 represent victories on the part of the dragon, 1329 01:07:59,577 --> 01:08:02,830 whose moral currency is death itself. 1330 01:08:04,123 --> 01:08:06,792 In her 1972 book, "My Life," 1331 01:08:06,917 --> 01:08:09,878 Israeli prime minister Golda Meir said, 1332 01:08:10,003 --> 01:08:13,965 "We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children, 1333 01:08:14,090 --> 01:08:16,968 but we can never forgive them for forcing us 1334 01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:19,763 to kill their children." 1335 01:08:19,888 --> 01:08:23,808 This captures the moral ambiguity of retaliation, 1336 01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:26,103 and what compounds the tragedy 1337 01:08:26,228 --> 01:08:29,273 is that it offers no immediate solution. 1338 01:08:30,482 --> 01:08:34,487 But is there a wider solution to the conflict itself? 1339 01:08:34,612 --> 01:08:36,322 For the Israeli perspective, 1340 01:08:36,447 --> 01:08:39,492 I turned to the Prime Minister of Israel. 1341 01:08:39,617 --> 01:08:41,327 Prime Minister Netanyahu, 1342 01:08:41,452 --> 01:08:46,040 let me begin by asking you about October 7th. 1343 01:08:46,165 --> 01:08:48,917 Well, I heard about it at 6:29, 1344 01:08:49,042 --> 01:08:51,337 which was more or less the moment 1345 01:08:51,462 --> 01:08:53,547 that the attack had crossed our lines. 1346 01:08:53,672 --> 01:08:55,382 I was in my home. 1347 01:08:55,507 --> 01:08:58,218 Got dressed, went to our military headquarters in Tel Aviv 1348 01:08:58,343 --> 01:09:01,847 and said, "This is not another round with Hamas terrorists. 1349 01:09:01,972 --> 01:09:02,848 This is a war." 1350 01:09:02,973 --> 01:09:05,683 I realized it wasn't only a war against Hamas, 1351 01:09:05,808 --> 01:09:08,562 it's a war against the Iran axis. 1352 01:09:08,687 --> 01:09:10,940 And we will have to take it on. 1353 01:09:11,065 --> 01:09:12,273 And I said and promised 1354 01:09:12,398 --> 01:09:14,610 that we would change the Middle East, 1355 01:09:14,735 --> 01:09:19,072 ridding it of the Iran's axis, ridding it of Iran's proxies, 1356 01:09:19,198 --> 01:09:22,200 but also ridding it of Iran's threat to annihilate Israel 1357 01:09:22,325 --> 01:09:24,453 and threaten the West with nuclear weapons. 1358 01:09:24,578 --> 01:09:27,957 It seems that you recognized immediately that it posed 1359 01:09:28,082 --> 01:09:30,833 some serious problems for the idea 1360 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,170 of the two-state solution. 1361 01:09:33,295 --> 01:09:36,048 Hamas had a state, a de facto state, 1362 01:09:36,173 --> 01:09:37,800 and used it not to promote peace, 1363 01:09:37,925 --> 01:09:39,468 but to try to annihilate Israel. 1364 01:09:39,593 --> 01:09:41,678 They pay terrorists for murdering Jews. 1365 01:09:41,803 --> 01:09:44,055 The more Jews they murder, the more they get paid. 1366 01:09:44,180 --> 01:09:47,475 The idea that we should give the Palestinians 1367 01:09:47,602 --> 01:09:49,228 who seek our destruction 1368 01:09:49,353 --> 01:09:53,398 a base for which to execute our destruction was a folly. 1369 01:09:53,523 --> 01:09:54,775 A lot of leaders in the West 1370 01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:57,570 still cling to this absurd notion 1371 01:09:57,695 --> 01:10:01,115 that this conflict between us and the Palestinians 1372 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,200 is about the absence of a Palestinian state. 1373 01:10:04,327 --> 01:10:05,160 It never was. 1374 01:10:05,285 --> 01:10:09,332 The goal was never to create a Palestinian state for peace, 1375 01:10:09,457 --> 01:10:12,877 but to destroy and annihilate the one and only Jewish state. 1376 01:10:13,002 --> 01:10:14,962 The critics will say 1377 01:10:15,087 --> 01:10:19,592 that Israel has killed far more civilians 1378 01:10:19,717 --> 01:10:22,385 in retaliation for October 7th 1379 01:10:22,510 --> 01:10:25,722 than were killed on October 7th. 1380 01:10:25,847 --> 01:10:30,018 Well, I think you killed a lot more Germans 1381 01:10:31,062 --> 01:10:33,730 than Americans were killed in World War II. 1382 01:10:33,855 --> 01:10:35,065 That's an understatement. 1383 01:10:35,190 --> 01:10:36,358 And the same is true of Japan. 1384 01:10:36,483 --> 01:10:39,737 Japan attacked you in a surprise attack, in Pearl Harbor. 1385 01:10:39,862 --> 01:10:41,988 They killed, I don't know, a few thousand Americans. 1386 01:10:42,113 --> 01:10:45,200 I'd like to raise with you this amazing accusation 1387 01:10:45,325 --> 01:10:47,243 that Israel is somehow 1388 01:10:47,368 --> 01:10:50,413 a colonial power. 1389 01:10:50,538 --> 01:10:53,667 This has been our land for 3,500 years 1390 01:10:53,792 --> 01:10:54,918 since Abraham came here. 1391 01:10:55,043 --> 01:10:57,545 And it was populated by the Jewish people, 1392 01:10:57,672 --> 01:10:58,963 by the people of the Bible. 1393 01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:00,298 That's when the Bible was written. 1394 01:11:00,423 --> 01:11:01,967 It wasn't written in Tibet. 1395 01:11:02,092 --> 01:11:04,720 It was written here by people that lived here. 1396 01:11:04,845 --> 01:11:06,513 Our identity was forged there, 1397 01:11:06,638 --> 01:11:08,723 our faith, and our very being. 1398 01:11:08,848 --> 01:11:11,060 We were often conquered by the Babylonians, 1399 01:11:11,185 --> 01:11:14,480 the Seleucid Greeks, the Romans, and then by the Byzantines, 1400 01:11:14,605 --> 01:11:15,772 and finally by the Arabs. 1401 01:11:15,897 --> 01:11:19,025 It's not we who colonized the area from the Arabs, 1402 01:11:19,150 --> 01:11:21,820 it's the Arabs who colonized the area from the Jews. 1403 01:11:21,945 --> 01:11:24,238 Other travelers, Brits, Americans, French, 1404 01:11:24,365 --> 01:11:27,283 came here in the 19th century, and they said, basically, 1405 01:11:27,408 --> 01:11:29,578 when will the Jews come back 1406 01:11:29,703 --> 01:11:31,455 and bring this land back to life? 1407 01:11:31,580 --> 01:11:32,622 And we did. 1408 01:11:32,748 --> 01:11:35,125 And the Palestinians joined us from neighboring lands. 1409 01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:36,835 And we never said, "You have to go out." 1410 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:37,795 We welcomed them. 1411 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,255 But now what they're saying is, "This is not your land. 1412 01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:42,423 It was never your land." 1413 01:11:42,548 --> 01:11:43,467 We came back to a land 1414 01:11:43,592 --> 01:11:45,635 that was largely barren and empty 1415 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,013 and we brought it back to life, and we're going to keep it. 1416 01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:53,310 I saw a video of you walking the Pilgrimage Road. 1417 01:11:53,435 --> 01:11:56,855 Say a word about the role of biblical archeology 1418 01:11:56,980 --> 01:12:00,025 in affirming the presence of the Jews, 1419 01:12:00,150 --> 01:12:02,737 going back not just to the time of Christ, 1420 01:12:02,862 --> 01:12:05,363 but going back 2,000 years before that. 1421 01:12:05,488 --> 01:12:07,657 First of all, look at Christ himself. 1422 01:12:07,783 --> 01:12:10,993 He wasn't a Palestinian teacher, he was a Jewish teacher 1423 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,122 with a Jewish name, Yeshua. 1424 01:12:14,288 --> 01:12:16,417 His father was Yosef, Joseph. 1425 01:12:16,542 --> 01:12:18,460 These are all Hebrew names. 1426 01:12:18,585 --> 01:12:22,380 And where did Jesus turn the tables on the money changers? 1427 01:12:22,505 --> 01:12:24,550 Where? In Nepal? 1428 01:12:25,717 --> 01:12:27,427 Perhaps in Singapore? 1429 01:12:27,552 --> 01:12:30,388 Of course not, it was in the Jewish temple. 1430 01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:37,353 In a recent exchange between Tucker Carlson 1431 01:12:37,478 --> 01:12:41,150 and Senator Ted Cruz, Tucker Carlson said, 1432 01:12:41,275 --> 01:12:43,568 "Are you saying that 1433 01:12:43,693 --> 01:12:46,863 the Jews in Israel under Netanyahu 1434 01:12:46,988 --> 01:12:51,827 are the descendants of the ancient Israelites 1435 01:12:51,952 --> 01:12:55,205 who are described in the Bible?" 1436 01:12:55,330 --> 01:12:57,123 Of course. There's no question about it. 1437 01:12:57,248 --> 01:13:00,502 The Jews spread from this land to various parts of Europe, 1438 01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:03,213 to the Middle East and elsewhere, 1439 01:13:03,338 --> 01:13:06,092 but we never forgot this land. 1440 01:13:06,217 --> 01:13:08,677 We said, "Next year in Jerusalem. Next year in Jerusalem." 1441 01:13:08,802 --> 01:13:11,012 My great grandfather came here in the 19th century. 1442 01:13:11,138 --> 01:13:14,933 Most of the Palestinians who are alive today came after him. 1443 01:13:15,058 --> 01:13:17,268 So, that's what our history has been. 1444 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:20,688 On the one hand, regaining our ancient ancestral homeland, 1445 01:13:20,813 --> 01:13:23,025 and the other, developing a state that becomes 1446 01:13:23,150 --> 01:13:25,902 a juggernaut of technology and development. 1447 01:13:26,027 --> 01:13:28,197 We're a Silicon Valley in the Middle East, 1448 01:13:28,322 --> 01:13:32,033 a democratic society in the face of enormous attacks 1449 01:13:32,158 --> 01:13:34,453 of countries that want to annihilate us every day. 1450 01:13:34,578 --> 01:13:36,372 Who is Tucker Carlson defending here? 1451 01:13:36,497 --> 01:13:39,875 These are people who chant, "Death to America!" 1452 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,627 They're after you. 1453 01:13:41,752 --> 01:13:43,837 They wanna destroy Western civilization. 1454 01:13:43,962 --> 01:13:47,132 They wanna destroy everything that America stands for. 1455 01:13:47,257 --> 01:13:49,552 They say Israel is the small Satan. 1456 01:13:49,677 --> 01:13:51,470 The big Satan is America. 1457 01:13:51,595 --> 01:13:53,138 The only place where Christians are safe 1458 01:13:53,263 --> 01:13:54,973 in the Middle East is in Israel. 1459 01:13:55,098 --> 01:13:57,683 Not tolerated, welcomed. 1460 01:13:57,810 --> 01:13:59,812 They participate in our society. 1461 01:13:59,937 --> 01:14:01,563 We take care of the holy places, 1462 01:14:01,688 --> 01:14:02,982 which are destroyed everywhere else. 1463 01:14:03,107 --> 01:14:05,192 Churches blown up throughout the Middle East. 1464 01:14:05,317 --> 01:14:07,862 So if Tucker Carlson is asking you that, 1465 01:14:07,987 --> 01:14:11,573 then he has no idea, not of Jewish history, but of history. 1466 01:14:11,698 --> 01:14:16,287 Who are these so-called defenders of MAGA defending? 1467 01:14:16,412 --> 01:14:18,247 They're defending the worst enemies 1468 01:14:18,372 --> 01:14:20,457 on the planet against America. 1469 01:14:20,582 --> 01:14:21,292 They're not MAGA. 1470 01:14:21,417 --> 01:14:24,545 The people who speak of MAGA, they love America, 1471 01:14:24,670 --> 01:14:26,338 and they love America's values, 1472 01:14:26,463 --> 01:14:30,175 and they don't identify with the worst enemies 1473 01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:32,970 that America is facing today in the world. 1474 01:14:33,095 --> 01:14:35,430 With President Donald J. Trump, 1475 01:14:35,555 --> 01:14:37,892 the greatest friend that Israel has ever had, 1476 01:14:38,017 --> 01:14:41,520 he understands that we're fighting a common enemy. 1477 01:14:41,645 --> 01:14:45,023 Iran wants to destroy you. We stand in their way. 1478 01:14:45,148 --> 01:14:47,150 I'm very proud of the fact that Israel 1479 01:14:47,275 --> 01:14:49,277 is the front line of this battle 1480 01:14:49,402 --> 01:14:51,322 of civilization against the barbarism 1481 01:14:51,447 --> 01:14:53,073 that threatens all free societies. 1482 01:14:54,617 --> 01:14:56,410 How should we, as Americans, 1483 01:14:56,535 --> 01:14:58,495 respond to the situation? 1484 01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:00,330 I spoke to Erick Stakelbeck 1485 01:15:00,455 --> 01:15:03,958 on his stage at the TBN Studios in Dallas. 1486 01:15:04,083 --> 01:15:06,212 He's a journalist and TV host 1487 01:15:06,337 --> 01:15:08,130 who's been covering terrorism 1488 01:15:08,255 --> 01:15:10,923 in the Middle East for decades. 1489 01:15:11,048 --> 01:15:14,762 When I think about how countries have gotten their land. 1490 01:15:14,887 --> 01:15:17,388 One, they were there first. 1491 01:15:17,513 --> 01:15:22,393 The second is by some sort of treaty or negotiation. 1492 01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:23,937 And the third is by conquest. 1493 01:15:24,938 --> 01:15:26,773 Israel succeeds on all three. 1494 01:15:26,898 --> 01:15:31,403 God, clearly in the Bible, promised the land to Abraham 1495 01:15:31,528 --> 01:15:33,030 and his ancestors forever. 1496 01:15:33,155 --> 01:15:36,783 And so we have the biblical divine legitimacy, 1497 01:15:36,908 --> 01:15:38,660 but then in 1947/48, 1498 01:15:38,785 --> 01:15:41,455 as the U.N. is coming up with this partition plan. 1499 01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:43,540 And finally, they came out with a plan 1500 01:15:43,665 --> 01:15:45,500 to partition Palestine. 1501 01:15:45,625 --> 01:15:48,253 Israel right now is the size of the state of new Jersey. 1502 01:15:48,378 --> 01:15:49,713 The U.N. wanted to give Israel 1503 01:15:49,838 --> 01:15:52,632 an even smaller chunk of land than that, 1504 01:15:52,757 --> 01:15:55,093 and Israel said, "Okay, we'll do it." 1505 01:15:55,218 --> 01:15:56,803 The Middle Eastern Arabic nations 1506 01:15:56,928 --> 01:15:58,805 were in violent opposition, 1507 01:15:58,930 --> 01:16:00,848 and when Israel was voted a membership, 1508 01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:02,767 they walked out in a body. 1509 01:16:02,892 --> 01:16:04,143 Arabs rejected it, 1510 01:16:04,268 --> 01:16:06,397 invaded Israel simultaneously. 1511 01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:09,733 Israel, against all odds, prevailed. 1512 01:16:09,858 --> 01:16:10,983 In the year of independence, 1513 01:16:11,108 --> 01:16:13,445 fighting was fierce in the Negev Desert area. 1514 01:16:13,570 --> 01:16:15,488 Here, Israeli troops round up the Arabs 1515 01:16:15,613 --> 01:16:17,407 and took hundreds of prisoners. 1516 01:16:17,532 --> 01:16:19,993 And that takes us to 1967. 1517 01:16:20,118 --> 01:16:23,247 Israel, on the cusp of being invaded by Syria, 1518 01:16:23,372 --> 01:16:25,957 by Egypt, by Jordan, Israel strikes first. 1519 01:16:27,708 --> 01:16:29,085 And that victory is a swift, 1520 01:16:29,210 --> 01:16:30,920 smashing and total one. 1521 01:16:31,045 --> 01:16:34,048 As crack air force, infantry, artillery and tank corps 1522 01:16:34,173 --> 01:16:36,802 combine to sweep across the Sinai Peninsula 1523 01:16:36,927 --> 01:16:40,763 to the Suez Canal, east of the Jordan, north into Syria. 1524 01:16:40,888 --> 01:16:43,100 Israel ends the 1967 war 1525 01:16:43,225 --> 01:16:46,102 in possession of the Golan Heights, in possession of Gaza, 1526 01:16:46,227 --> 01:16:49,313 Judea and Samaria, and even the Sinai Peninsula 1527 01:16:49,438 --> 01:16:51,065 before they gave it back to Egypt. 1528 01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:54,193 So Israel checks all the boxes of legitimacy 1529 01:16:54,318 --> 01:16:55,445 for a nation state. 1530 01:16:56,863 --> 01:16:58,615 Isn't it interesting that in this 1531 01:16:58,740 --> 01:17:02,035 highly significant piece of real estate, 1532 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,705 the forces of Islam 1533 01:17:04,830 --> 01:17:07,832 are sitting atop the holiest site 1534 01:17:07,957 --> 01:17:10,168 of both Judaism and Christianity? 1535 01:17:10,293 --> 01:17:13,922 Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Quran, not even once. 1536 01:17:14,047 --> 01:17:16,342 It's mentioned hundreds of times in the Bible, 1537 01:17:16,467 --> 01:17:18,552 in both the Old Testament and the New. 1538 01:17:18,677 --> 01:17:20,887 The dome and the mosque were planted there 1539 01:17:21,012 --> 01:17:24,307 in the seventh century as victory arches. 1540 01:17:24,432 --> 01:17:28,478 This was the conquest of Jerusalem, the Holy City. 1541 01:17:28,603 --> 01:17:31,648 Even Muhammad, at first, when Islam started, 1542 01:17:31,773 --> 01:17:34,275 they faced not Mecca, he and his followers, 1543 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,445 they faced Jerusalem during their daily prayers. 1544 01:17:37,570 --> 01:17:40,823 They knew the significance of conquering Jerusalem. 1545 01:17:40,948 --> 01:17:43,868 This has been a pattern in Islamic conquest 1546 01:17:43,993 --> 01:17:44,745 throughout the centuries. 1547 01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:48,373 They build victory arches. 1548 01:17:48,498 --> 01:17:51,208 What do you make, Erick, of anti-Semitism? 1549 01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:55,047 It seems to be a cousin of racism. 1550 01:17:55,172 --> 01:17:56,757 And yet, it's different. 1551 01:17:56,882 --> 01:18:00,302 In racism, there's an effort by a group of people to say, 1552 01:18:00,427 --> 01:18:02,928 "I'm up here and you're down there. 1553 01:18:03,055 --> 01:18:04,890 You're inferior to me." 1554 01:18:05,015 --> 01:18:06,600 But that's hard to say about the Jews, 1555 01:18:06,725 --> 01:18:08,435 because they are far and away 1556 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,353 the most successful tribe in world history. 1557 01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:13,815 - Yeah. - So anti-Semitism 1558 01:18:13,940 --> 01:18:16,150 is not simply a looking down on the Jews, 1559 01:18:16,275 --> 01:18:19,028 but, in some weird way, it's looking up to the Jews. 1560 01:18:19,153 --> 01:18:20,947 It's the world's oldest hatred, 1561 01:18:21,072 --> 01:18:24,827 certainly demonic, a spiritual driver to it, 1562 01:18:24,952 --> 01:18:26,578 but much of it is based on envy. 1563 01:18:26,703 --> 01:18:28,413 People have asked, "Why the Jews?" 1564 01:18:28,538 --> 01:18:30,540 The devil hates the Jewish people 1565 01:18:30,665 --> 01:18:33,252 because they represent the existence of God. 1566 01:18:33,377 --> 01:18:36,922 You can't explain the existence and the rebirth of Israel 1567 01:18:37,047 --> 01:18:39,173 without bringing God into the picture. 1568 01:18:39,298 --> 01:18:42,093 Where else in human history have we seen a people 1569 01:18:42,218 --> 01:18:44,805 after 2,000 years of disbursement, 1570 01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:46,723 they return to that homeland, 1571 01:18:46,848 --> 01:18:48,642 they revive the Hebrew language, 1572 01:18:48,767 --> 01:18:52,478 and it's in regular use for the first time in 2,500 years. 1573 01:18:52,603 --> 01:18:54,355 And you're saying it has to be a miracle. 1574 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:55,898 It's a miracle. 1575 01:18:56,023 --> 01:18:57,942 The dragon's response? 1576 01:18:58,067 --> 01:18:59,193 On the first night of Passover, 1577 01:18:59,318 --> 01:19:01,572 another suicide bomber has killed 15 people, 1578 01:19:01,697 --> 01:19:03,865 injured 100 others. 1579 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:05,950 All of these people were civilians, 1580 01:19:06,075 --> 01:19:09,328 and there is no other reason than terror. 1581 01:19:10,122 --> 01:19:10,913 Three women killed 1582 01:19:11,038 --> 01:19:12,207 and more than 40 wounded 1583 01:19:12,332 --> 01:19:14,877 when a bomb exploded in a crowded outdoor cafe 1584 01:19:15,002 --> 01:19:16,670 in central Tel Aviv. 1585 01:19:16,795 --> 01:19:18,713 15 killed, and 130 wounded 1586 01:19:18,838 --> 01:19:20,257 in Jerusalem today 1587 01:19:20,382 --> 01:19:21,090 when a suicide bomber 1588 01:19:21,215 --> 01:19:22,717 detonated in a crowded pizzeria. 1589 01:19:26,095 --> 01:19:28,223 Seems like in our time, 1590 01:19:28,348 --> 01:19:30,517 radical Islam has been 1591 01:19:30,642 --> 01:19:33,937 the primary transmitter 1592 01:19:34,062 --> 01:19:35,105 of terrorism. 1593 01:19:35,230 --> 01:19:38,107 It's been said that not all Muslims are terrorists, 1594 01:19:38,233 --> 01:19:40,110 but all terrorism in the modern age 1595 01:19:40,235 --> 01:19:42,570 seems to be committed by Muslims. 1596 01:19:42,695 --> 01:19:45,115 We're seeing a great resurgence of radical Islam. 1597 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,700 I really think it began in 1979. 1598 01:19:47,825 --> 01:19:50,037 Chaotic celebrations erupted in Tehran 1599 01:19:50,162 --> 01:19:52,455 when the news broke that Shah had gone. 1600 01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:53,707 The Shah is defeated. 1601 01:19:53,832 --> 01:19:55,333 Khomeini has won. 1602 01:19:55,458 --> 01:19:57,377 Iran was a friend of Israel, 1603 01:19:57,502 --> 01:19:59,753 a friend of the United States and the West. 1604 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,048 That all changed in 1979. 1605 01:20:02,173 --> 01:20:05,718 That was really the watershed moment for modern day terror, 1606 01:20:05,843 --> 01:20:07,303 because terrorists around the world, 1607 01:20:07,428 --> 01:20:09,138 whether they were Sunni, Shia, 1608 01:20:09,263 --> 01:20:11,600 they saw what the Ayatollah did in Iran. 1609 01:20:11,725 --> 01:20:13,602 It inspired jihadis around the world. 1610 01:20:13,727 --> 01:20:16,395 They said if they can do it, perhaps we can, too. 1611 01:20:16,522 --> 01:20:19,023 The dream of jihadis everywhere 1612 01:20:19,148 --> 01:20:21,233 is to have a nation state, 1613 01:20:21,358 --> 01:20:23,027 not just be a ragtag bunch 1614 01:20:23,152 --> 01:20:25,197 running back and forth between caves. 1615 01:20:25,322 --> 01:20:28,073 Iran is the crown jewel of jihadi government. 1616 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,452 We have the Taliban back in Afghanistan. 1617 01:20:30,577 --> 01:20:33,788 We have Syria run by Al-Qaida-linked-jihadis 1618 01:20:33,913 --> 01:20:35,790 who overthrew Bashar al-Assad, 1619 01:20:35,915 --> 01:20:39,543 and with backing of another Islamist regime in Turkey. 1620 01:20:39,668 --> 01:20:41,295 So across the map in the Middle East, 1621 01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:43,340 we see these regimes rising up. 1622 01:20:43,465 --> 01:20:46,552 It starts in Iran, but it does not end in Iran. 1623 01:20:49,053 --> 01:20:50,430 How should Christians think 1624 01:20:50,555 --> 01:20:52,057 and feel about Israel? 1625 01:20:52,890 --> 01:20:56,645 Mike Huckabee is a former pastor and governor of Arkansas, 1626 01:20:56,770 --> 01:21:00,357 who is currently the U.S. ambassador to Israel. 1627 01:21:00,482 --> 01:21:03,025 Ambassador Huckabee, the United States 1628 01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:06,487 is friendly with a lot of different countries, 1629 01:21:06,613 --> 01:21:10,492 but we have a special relationship with Israel. 1630 01:21:10,617 --> 01:21:11,702 And why is that? 1631 01:21:11,827 --> 01:21:15,288 We share a common foundation, and that foundation is 1632 01:21:15,413 --> 01:21:19,125 a Judeo-Christian understanding and worldview, 1633 01:21:19,250 --> 01:21:22,337 without which there is no Western civilization. 1634 01:21:22,462 --> 01:21:25,215 Most of Europe was founded on that same notion, 1635 01:21:25,340 --> 01:21:28,175 but they pretty much abandoned and rejected it. 1636 01:21:28,302 --> 01:21:30,220 And a lot of America has rejected it, 1637 01:21:30,345 --> 01:21:33,973 but it still holds true that our fundamental foundation 1638 01:21:34,098 --> 01:21:37,310 is that understanding of who God is. 1639 01:21:37,435 --> 01:21:40,938 What you're saying is that we wouldn't be who we are 1640 01:21:41,063 --> 01:21:45,152 if Israel wasn't what it is. 1641 01:21:45,277 --> 01:21:46,778 You can be Jewish 1642 01:21:46,903 --> 01:21:50,115 and have nothing whatsoever to do with Christians. 1643 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,532 I, on the other hand, 1644 01:21:51,658 --> 01:21:55,537 cannot be a Christian without completely embracing 1645 01:21:55,662 --> 01:21:58,957 everything there is in the Jewish foundation, 1646 01:21:59,082 --> 01:22:01,458 because without that Jewish foundation, 1647 01:22:01,583 --> 01:22:03,043 there is no Christianity. 1648 01:22:03,168 --> 01:22:06,172 So there is an organic connection 1649 01:22:07,132 --> 01:22:09,342 between every person of faith, 1650 01:22:09,467 --> 01:22:11,678 be it Christian or Jew, to each other, 1651 01:22:11,803 --> 01:22:14,680 whether they totally understand that or not. 1652 01:22:14,805 --> 01:22:16,432 Israel, go to hell! 1653 01:22:16,557 --> 01:22:18,352 Israel, go to hell! 1654 01:22:21,062 --> 01:22:22,022 Jewish groups on campus 1655 01:22:22,147 --> 01:22:25,025 received anti-Semitic threats yesterday. 1656 01:22:25,150 --> 01:22:26,483 Anti-Semitic attack 1657 01:22:26,608 --> 01:22:27,777 injured several people. 1658 01:22:27,902 --> 01:22:28,612 Two people are dead 1659 01:22:28,737 --> 01:22:31,782 after a shooting outside a Jewish museum in Washington, DC. 1660 01:22:31,907 --> 01:22:32,698 Free, free Palestine! 1661 01:22:36,077 --> 01:22:38,330 What do you think is anti-Semitism? 1662 01:22:38,455 --> 01:22:41,792 The whole issue of anti-Semitism is not geopolitical. 1663 01:22:41,917 --> 01:22:46,128 It is not ethnicity. It's not socioeconomic. 1664 01:22:46,253 --> 01:22:48,923 It really is a spiritual disease. 1665 01:22:49,048 --> 01:22:52,302 It is up versus down, good versus evil, 1666 01:22:52,427 --> 01:22:54,303 right versus wrong. 1667 01:22:54,428 --> 01:22:57,640 For me one way to identify anti-Semitism 1668 01:22:57,765 --> 01:23:02,020 is to ask this question, "Are you singling out the Jews?" 1669 01:23:02,145 --> 01:23:05,065 People can criticize Israel, people can criticize the Jews. 1670 01:23:05,190 --> 01:23:05,898 Yeah. 1671 01:23:06,023 --> 01:23:08,527 But when you're criticizing the Jews for something 1672 01:23:08,652 --> 01:23:12,155 that you don't criticize others for, 1673 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,033 then it raises the question, what's your real motive? 1674 01:23:15,158 --> 01:23:16,785 There is no doubt in the world 1675 01:23:16,910 --> 01:23:20,122 that there is a different standard applied to Israel, 1676 01:23:20,247 --> 01:23:22,957 but also to Jews as a people. 1677 01:23:23,082 --> 01:23:27,045 Every time Israel wins the war and the world response, 1678 01:23:27,170 --> 01:23:28,713 "Israel needs to give up land," 1679 01:23:28,838 --> 01:23:30,923 for the people that tried to kill Israel. 1680 01:23:31,048 --> 01:23:35,053 When in all of human history has the nation who won a war 1681 01:23:35,178 --> 01:23:38,723 been asked to give up what they won 1682 01:23:38,848 --> 01:23:40,892 after having been attacked? 1683 01:23:43,687 --> 01:23:46,647 What happened on October the 7th was a seminal event, 1684 01:23:46,773 --> 01:23:48,775 not just for Israel and the Jews, 1685 01:23:48,900 --> 01:23:52,070 it is a seminal event for the world. 1686 01:23:53,112 --> 01:23:55,698 The writer, Jonathan Cahn, talks about the fact 1687 01:23:55,823 --> 01:23:59,243 that what happened on October 7th has a lot of parallels 1688 01:23:59,368 --> 01:24:01,955 of some of the ancient conflicts of Israel. 1689 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,248 Centuries ago, when it was the Philistines, 1690 01:24:04,373 --> 01:24:05,708 it's easier to say, 1691 01:24:05,833 --> 01:24:08,335 "But they were a primitive, uneducated people." 1692 01:24:08,462 --> 01:24:11,213 We're talking about now people in the 21st century 1693 01:24:11,338 --> 01:24:15,510 who have access to a much broader body of knowledge, 1694 01:24:15,635 --> 01:24:17,928 understanding of history and perspective. 1695 01:24:18,053 --> 01:24:20,932 This was the intentional slaughter 1696 01:24:21,057 --> 01:24:22,767 of the most innocent: 1697 01:24:22,892 --> 01:24:25,103 the children, the babies, 1698 01:24:25,228 --> 01:24:27,772 women, the elderly people. 1699 01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:30,192 Why a level of evil like that? 1700 01:24:30,317 --> 01:24:31,733 Where does this come from? 1701 01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:34,653 And I really believe this comes from below. 1702 01:24:34,778 --> 01:24:36,865 This is from hell itself. 1703 01:24:36,990 --> 01:24:38,492 And yet, 1704 01:24:38,617 --> 01:24:41,828 not only in the Islamic world, 1705 01:24:41,953 --> 01:24:45,457 but in Europe, in Canada... 1706 01:24:45,582 --> 01:24:47,708 Israel, burn, burn. 1707 01:24:47,833 --> 01:24:49,793 Israel, burn, burn! 1708 01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:51,753 In the United States, 1709 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:56,383 you have huge outpourings of activism, 1710 01:24:56,508 --> 01:25:01,180 not to express indignation over the terrorist attacks, 1711 01:25:01,388 --> 01:25:04,058 but over Israel's response. 1712 01:25:04,183 --> 01:25:05,352 In the time of the Judges in the Old Testament, 1713 01:25:05,477 --> 01:25:07,812 it was said that everyone did what was right 1714 01:25:07,937 --> 01:25:09,313 in his own eyes. 1715 01:25:09,438 --> 01:25:11,523 In many ways, that describes our culture today. 1716 01:25:11,648 --> 01:25:15,237 But the Western countries are pulling away from God. 1717 01:25:15,362 --> 01:25:18,782 Logically, they're pulling away from the people of God. 1718 01:25:18,907 --> 01:25:20,867 You have moral inversion in the West, 1719 01:25:20,992 --> 01:25:23,118 right becomes wrong, and wrong becomes right, 1720 01:25:23,243 --> 01:25:25,580 they look at the people who attack Israel and they go, 1721 01:25:25,705 --> 01:25:28,542 "The people who attack Israel are the victims, 1722 01:25:28,667 --> 01:25:30,502 and Israel is the aggressor." 1723 01:25:30,627 --> 01:25:33,378 It is a totally upside-down morality to think that 1724 01:25:34,255 --> 01:25:37,550 when Jewish people are attacked, it had to be their fault. 1725 01:25:37,675 --> 01:25:40,262 And when they defend themselves and they seek to preserve 1726 01:25:40,387 --> 01:25:43,848 the lives of their own people, somehow that's an atrocity. 1727 01:25:43,973 --> 01:25:47,435 Palestine could be a thriving metropolis, right? 1728 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,397 President Trump talks about it as a riviera. 1729 01:25:50,522 --> 01:25:52,440 Gaza could have been Singapore. 1730 01:25:53,273 --> 01:25:55,610 Hamas turned it into Haiti. 1731 01:26:09,707 --> 01:26:12,335 At one point in "The Dragon Prophecy," 1732 01:26:12,460 --> 01:26:15,422 it speaks about the war against 1733 01:26:15,547 --> 01:26:17,507 the woman and her child 1734 01:26:17,632 --> 01:26:19,883 and her other children. 1735 01:26:20,008 --> 01:26:22,095 If the woman is Israel, 1736 01:26:22,220 --> 01:26:23,888 then who are the rest of her children? 1737 01:26:24,013 --> 01:26:26,390 They have to be children of Israel. 1738 01:26:26,515 --> 01:26:28,017 If you're a true Christian, 1739 01:26:28,142 --> 01:26:30,353 the Bible says you're actually a child of Israel. 1740 01:26:30,478 --> 01:26:32,730 You are spiritually an Israelite. 1741 01:26:32,855 --> 01:26:35,983 So, the enemy makes war against both Israels, 1742 01:26:36,108 --> 01:26:37,360 the Israel of flesh and blood 1743 01:26:37,485 --> 01:26:39,612 in the world to destroy it physically, 1744 01:26:39,737 --> 01:26:41,948 and the spiritual Israel to destroy it spiritually, 1745 01:26:42,073 --> 01:26:42,990 to persecute it. 1746 01:26:43,115 --> 01:26:45,117 And the Bible says that in the last days, 1747 01:26:45,243 --> 01:26:47,120 both wars are gonna be evident: 1748 01:26:47,245 --> 01:26:48,245 the war against Israel, 1749 01:26:48,370 --> 01:26:51,457 and the war against God's people, against Christians. 1750 01:26:51,582 --> 01:26:55,210 And when you look at who is persecuting the Christians, 1751 01:26:55,337 --> 01:26:59,423 very often it's coming from the same forces of radical Islam 1752 01:26:59,548 --> 01:27:01,383 that are going against the Jews. 1753 01:27:01,508 --> 01:27:02,718 - It's amazing. - It's the same enemy. 1754 01:27:02,843 --> 01:27:06,597 Yeah, yeah, and at the same time, the very left wing, 1755 01:27:06,722 --> 01:27:08,515 they're generally against Israel 1756 01:27:08,642 --> 01:27:10,810 and against the ways of the Bible, 1757 01:27:10,935 --> 01:27:11,810 against Christians. 1758 01:27:11,937 --> 01:27:15,648 The same end-time culture that hates Israel 1759 01:27:15,773 --> 01:27:19,152 is increasingly hating God's people who follow the Messiah. 1760 01:27:19,277 --> 01:27:21,528 So we're gonna watch both wars happen. 1761 01:27:21,653 --> 01:27:24,865 Israel and Christians are coming together 1762 01:27:24,990 --> 01:27:26,993 in a way they have never been before, 1763 01:27:27,118 --> 01:27:28,285 since the Book of Acts. 1764 01:27:28,410 --> 01:27:30,538 You had a Western civilization that wasn't Christian, 1765 01:27:30,663 --> 01:27:32,373 it was pagan and anti-Christian. 1766 01:27:32,498 --> 01:27:34,125 Well, it's going back. 1767 01:27:34,250 --> 01:27:35,877 So if everything's going back, 1768 01:27:36,002 --> 01:27:38,880 then the people of God have to go back to where we were, 1769 01:27:39,005 --> 01:27:40,130 which is the Book of Acts, 1770 01:27:40,255 --> 01:27:44,135 which is a dynamic, revolutionary, against-the-grain, 1771 01:27:44,260 --> 01:27:47,013 against-the-flow-of-the-culture people of God 1772 01:27:47,138 --> 01:27:48,513 who transform the world. 1773 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:49,890 That's what we're called to. 1774 01:27:50,015 --> 01:27:52,935 Just as the Israelis 1775 01:27:53,060 --> 01:27:55,270 had to become warriors 1776 01:27:55,397 --> 01:27:58,775 like the Israelites of old, in the same vein, 1777 01:27:58,900 --> 01:28:02,945 Christians today need to put on a spiritual armor 1778 01:28:03,070 --> 01:28:05,782 like the Christians of old in the Book of Acts. 1779 01:28:05,907 --> 01:28:06,698 Mm-hmm. 1780 01:28:06,823 --> 01:28:08,200 And have that kind 1781 01:28:08,325 --> 01:28:10,870 of a warrior spirit. 1782 01:28:10,995 --> 01:28:11,703 Yes. 1783 01:28:11,828 --> 01:28:15,165 We have to become fighters in the spirit for God. 1784 01:28:15,290 --> 01:28:17,793 We don't accept what the enemy wants to do with our culture. 1785 01:28:17,918 --> 01:28:19,753 We don't accept what he wants to do with the nation. 1786 01:28:19,878 --> 01:28:22,798 We don't accept what he wants to do in our family, 1787 01:28:22,923 --> 01:28:25,343 with our children, in our marriage, in our calling. 1788 01:28:25,468 --> 01:28:27,470 We say no, we take up the armor. 1789 01:28:27,595 --> 01:28:28,888 Because the very first believers, 1790 01:28:29,013 --> 01:28:30,473 they were warriors in the spirit. 1791 01:28:30,598 --> 01:28:32,100 God wants that again. 1792 01:28:32,225 --> 01:28:34,477 You overcome. You slay the dragon. 1793 01:28:34,602 --> 01:28:38,355 Your message here is become a dragon slayer. 1794 01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:39,315 Yes. 1795 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:42,652 You know, Messiah is the ultimate dragon slayer, you know? 1796 01:28:42,777 --> 01:28:43,987 So we have to be that. 1797 01:28:44,112 --> 01:28:46,238 We are fighters against darkness 1798 01:28:46,363 --> 01:28:49,200 and if we keep fighting, we win. 1799 01:28:49,325 --> 01:28:52,912 ♪ We're holding on ♪ 1800 01:28:53,037 --> 01:28:56,832 ♪ But not for long ♪ 1801 01:28:56,957 --> 01:29:00,587 ♪ Can you pull us all close to the Holy Ghost ♪ 1802 01:29:00,712 --> 01:29:04,215 ♪ And keep us strong ♪ 1803 01:29:04,340 --> 01:29:07,760 ♪ We need Your light, we need Your love ♪ 1804 01:29:07,885 --> 01:29:11,097 ♪ To heal the world you made ♪ 1805 01:29:11,222 --> 01:29:14,850 ♪ And save us now in our darkest hour ♪ 1806 01:29:14,975 --> 01:29:19,105 ♪ With Your amazing grace ♪ 1807 01:29:19,230 --> 01:29:20,272 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1808 01:29:20,398 --> 01:29:23,525 ♪ Oh ♪ 1809 01:29:23,650 --> 01:29:26,403 ♪ Oh ♪ 1810 01:29:26,528 --> 01:29:27,405 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1811 01:29:27,530 --> 01:29:32,493 ♪ Oh ♪ 1812 01:29:33,285 --> 01:29:34,495 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1813 01:29:34,620 --> 01:29:36,122 Debbie and I have long cherished 1814 01:29:36,247 --> 01:29:41,168 the idea of being baptized as Jesus was in the Jordan River. 1815 01:29:42,670 --> 01:29:45,005 This is the church of the Ascension, 1816 01:29:45,130 --> 01:29:48,508 the site where Jesus was taken up into Heaven. 1817 01:29:51,137 --> 01:29:53,055 For me, it's a reminder 1818 01:29:53,180 --> 01:29:55,767 that there's a world behind the world. 1819 01:29:56,225 --> 01:29:59,228 And concealed within political conflicts 1820 01:29:59,353 --> 01:30:02,482 is an eternal battle between good and evil. 1821 01:30:12,283 --> 01:30:15,368 The dragon is not always apparent to us, 1822 01:30:15,495 --> 01:30:19,957 but he is real and working to achieve our destruction. 1823 01:30:21,333 --> 01:30:24,795 Yet God's Word stands firm. 1824 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,757 The dragon will not prevail. 1825 01:30:27,882 --> 01:30:32,470 In the end, he will be cast down and God will triumph. 1826 01:30:32,595 --> 01:30:35,765 ♪ We need Your light, we need Your love ♪ 1827 01:30:35,890 --> 01:30:39,143 ♪ To heal the world you made ♪ 1828 01:30:39,268 --> 01:30:42,772 ♪ And save us now in our darkest hour ♪ 1829 01:30:42,897 --> 01:30:47,193 ♪ With Your amazing grace ♪ 1830 01:30:47,318 --> 01:30:48,987 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1831 01:30:49,112 --> 01:30:51,947 ♪ Oh ♪ 1832 01:30:52,072 --> 01:30:54,283 ♪ Oh ♪ 1833 01:30:54,408 --> 01:30:55,577 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1834 01:30:55,702 --> 01:30:58,703 ♪ Oh ♪ 1835 01:30:58,830 --> 01:31:01,332 ♪ Oh ♪ 1836 01:31:01,457 --> 01:31:02,208 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1837 01:31:02,333 --> 01:31:05,503 ♪ Oh ♪ 1838 01:31:05,628 --> 01:31:08,172 ♪ Oh ♪ 1839 01:31:08,297 --> 01:31:09,673 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1840 01:31:09,798 --> 01:31:12,593 ♪ Oh ♪ 1841 01:31:12,718 --> 01:31:15,220 ♪ Oh ♪ 1842 01:31:15,345 --> 01:31:18,892 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1843 01:31:19,017 --> 01:31:22,353 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1844 01:31:22,478 --> 01:31:25,773 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1845 01:31:25,898 --> 01:31:29,318 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1846 01:31:29,443 --> 01:31:31,320 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1847 01:31:31,445 --> 01:31:32,738 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1848 01:31:32,863 --> 01:31:34,448 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1849 01:31:34,573 --> 01:31:36,367 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1850 01:31:36,492 --> 01:31:38,077 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1851 01:31:38,202 --> 01:31:39,828 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1852 01:31:39,953 --> 01:31:41,455 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1853 01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:44,083 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1854 01:31:44,208 --> 01:31:47,503 ♪ We need Your light, we need Your love ♪ 1855 01:31:47,628 --> 01:31:51,007 ♪ To heal the world You made ♪ 1856 01:31:51,132 --> 01:31:54,593 ♪ And save us now in our darkest hour ♪ 1857 01:31:54,718 --> 01:31:59,140 ♪ With Your amazing grace ♪ 1858 01:31:59,265 --> 01:32:02,602 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1859 01:32:02,727 --> 01:32:06,105 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1860 01:32:06,230 --> 01:32:09,525 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1861 01:32:09,650 --> 01:32:12,110 ♪ Come in, God ♪