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You want to try one?

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What do you say?
Let's do it. Yes.

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Let's shoot. Yep. Shoot.

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John, shoot.

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Let's go.

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Roll Keanu back
up. Let's shoot.

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Okay, let's mount up.

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Here we go.

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Keep the charge. Go time.

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All right. And let's roll.

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Quiet, please.

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And let's roll.

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Rolling. Very quiet
all around, please.

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B. Victory 88 Charlie,
Take 1. A-mark.

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Guys doing the shell casing,
it will come this direction.

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What's a good eyeline
here to look at them?

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Let's see. That's good.

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Here to here to here?

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No, uh, bring it
around a little bit.

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That's good.

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That's better. You like that?

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So, I'll start here. Three, two,
one, and I'll just be like, "Fuck."

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Stand by. Standing
by. Here we go.

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Yeah, let's see what comes. But
if we can get the pull and...

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Quiet, please. All
right, very good.

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And thank you. Okay.
Ready and action.

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Good. Cut. Cut.

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There you go. You like that?

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A little bit of anger is good.

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When we say, "John
Wick is pain,"

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it's kind of like a
"Fuck yeah," you know?

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It's like a "Fuck
yeah. Wick is pain."

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It's like, "It's
so good, it hurts."

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Or, "It hurts so good."

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Um...

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And I think...

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I think that's why the
audiences like it, too.

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I think you can see
it on the screen,

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and there's a kind of B
movie, B-action genre to it,

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taken to, like, a super
high artsy level in a way.

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But there is the joy of
people getting hit by cars

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and falling from impossible...
Like, "You can't survive that."

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And... And then John Wick kind
of getting back up or struggling.

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It's like an
invitation, you know?

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And it kind of takes care of
you, and it feels authentic.

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I believe that
that's in the movies,

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and that when you watch them,
you're like, "Yeah, this is like..."

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As John Wick says in John Wick,

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"It's personal."

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You know, I always looked
at it with, like, art envy,

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with, you know,
Scorsese and De Niro.

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You know, like, De Niro
had his director, you know?

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And so, when I think of that,
then that's what I think of.

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Like, with the John Wick role, I
had... I had my director there.

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This is 87eleven.

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I try to start my day here
every morning at 6:00 a.m.

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before I go into the office.

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This is where all the stunt
performers come to train.

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We've trained for all
the John Wicks here.

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It's also where I have to come and
try to keep the joints working.

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Yeah, a lot of
miles on the body.

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The wear and tear of
not just stunt work,

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but of all the martial art and
the physicality that I've done.

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I've broken my hands, both ankles,
both knees, both hips, both shoulders,

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both elbows, both arms,
several concussions.

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But if you're passionate about
something, pain's part of it.

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I don't think you can have
one without the other.

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It's really about choice.

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What you're willing to do to
achieve what you want to achieve.

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Nice.

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Growing up, my dad was very
athletic. Mom was very athletic.

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Everybody in the
house got up at 6:00.

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Before we went to school, we
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or we went for a jog, we went for a run
with the dogs or something like that.

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They had that discipline of get
up, go do something physical.

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It was already instilled
in me way back then.

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I-I remember Chad goes, "What
are you doing? You wanna train?"

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I go, "It's Christmas Eve." And
he's like, "Christmas evening."

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"You can train in the morning."
Like that kind of shit.

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I, for some reason, never
gravitated towards team sports.

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I was a shy kid.

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But when I was probably
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I saw a Bruce Lee movie.
I'm like, "I wanna do that."

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So I started doing judo
when I was like ten or 11.

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That kind of led to
the martial art career

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that I started when I was
in California to go to USC.

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In college, I had met a student who
was one of the associate instructors

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at the Inosanto Academy
in Marina Del Rey.

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Dan Inosanto trained
with Bruce Lee,

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and he was one of the greatest
martial art instructors of the time.

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The Inosanto Academy had
almost a collegiate setting.

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It wasn't one martial art.

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He'd bring in instructors
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Amazing instructors.

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Literally, if I wasn't going to school,
I would either jog the four miles

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or take the city bus down to
Marina Del Rey from Downtown LA

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and take classes or spend
my weekends down there.

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I would sleep on the
floor or whatever.

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Chad was probably the best
kickboxer in that school.

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I used to watch this guy just
beat the crap out of everybody.

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I just remember, if we
were training kickboxing,

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he would try to come up with
the best training drills,

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the best kickboxing drills.

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Everything to just be the
best at what we were doing.

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That's always been his thing.

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My last year in college, I had met a few
stuntmen through the Inosanto Academy,

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like Jeff Imada and Brandon Lee.

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Brandon was working
on his acting career,

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trying to, you know, follow
in his father's steps.

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Super motivated guy.

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Had the best laugh on the planet.
Really talented martial art guy.

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Every weekend,
we'd get together,

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and we'd do what we thought, hopefully,
was martial art choreography,

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but it was a bunch of us just trying
to figure out how to sell a punch

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and learn how to be stuntmen.

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We'd have our old, big VHS camera,
trying to figure out the angles.

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I still have some of the tapes.

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I go back and look at them going,
"How did we not kill each other?"

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I remember Brandon coming into the
gym one night before a workout,

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going, you know,
"I fucking got it."

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We're like, "What you get?" and he's
like, "Look, they're gonna make The Crow.

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I got the job
being Eric Draven."

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It was really, really cool.
Like, we were so happy for him.

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It was a big deal. Big deal
for Brandon to get that.

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And that's, um, that's kind of how
I got my first big gig in Hollywood.

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I was still competing at the time and
getting ready for a big bout in Japan,

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and Brandon had just gone off to
North Carolina to Carolco Studios,

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where they were
shooting The Crow.

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And we got a call saying
there was an accident.

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We're like, "He'll be
fine. It's Brandon."

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You know, we didn't
think anything of it.

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And he died, I think,
14 hours later.

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And then the show shut down. They were
still a couple weeks from finishing.

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Between Alex Proyas, the director, the
studio, and Linda Lee, Brandon's mom,

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they decided to finish the film.

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Jeff Imada had contacted me, and he
knew how close we were to Brandon.

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He knew I was already doing
some stunt work at the time.

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And Brandon and I had
very similar body types.

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You don't know what to think.

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Selfishly, one part of me is like, "Wow,
this could be really cool to finish, man."

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The other thing is like, "What
the fuck are you talking about?"

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You're like, "Your
friend's dead."

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I-I can't recall what my actual
head or mindset was at the time,

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but I decided to do the job.

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And Alex brought me down to a
little basement in the studio there,

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and we watched for like two days
straight every daily we could of Brandon.

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And he'd make me mimic
walking, talking, sitting,

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just every mannerism
Brandon had.

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And since I had known
him for a couple years,

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it was one of the most surreal
experiences you'll ever go through.

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Your career starts
because of that.

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Chad, when I first met him,

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had, like, this long,
beautiful hair down to here.

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Insane. It was incredible.

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He looked like Daniel Day-Lewis
in The Last of the Mohicans.

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We actually met through a mutual
friend at one of the first UFC fights.

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Somebody was watching it at home,
and we all met at somebody's house,

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and Chad and I just met, and we
started talking about martial arts.

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Totally hit it off.

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And I said, "Hey, I'm up to
do the sequel to Bloodsport."

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He was like, "I love Bloodsport.
I'd love to be involved."

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So he came onboard.

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He became one of the fighters.
He did one of the fights with me.

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And Chad actually
choreographed that fight.

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And at the time, Chad
was really into trapping.

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We did a lot of trapping.

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Chad used all my kicking.
I'm a Tae Kwon Do guy.

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And it turned out to be my
best fight in the movie.

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So when Bloodsport
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I ask him, "Would you like
to be the fight coordinator?"

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So he came onboard.

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This time, it's my turn.

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And I actually think the fights Chad
did at the time were incredible.

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Even if you watch it now,

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it's still a little bit
like, you know, '90s, like...

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But the techniques
are already great.

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Then I did a movie
called Perfect Target.

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It was a smaller movie.
We shot it in Mexico.

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So, Chad tells me, "Hey,
listen. I have this buddy

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who's gonna come and visit and wanna
hang out and maybe do some stunts."

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I'm like, "Absolutely."

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And I meet David Leitch.

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I started training at a
martial arts school in college

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called the Minnesota Kali Group,

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and they were affiliated
with Dan Inosanto.

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Once I was exposed
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and that sort of martial art
community, I was, like, obsessed.

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And that's where I met a lot of
my friends for the first time

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who are still my friends today.
And one of them was Chad.

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He was just saying one day that he
really wanted to go into acting.

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And I was like, "Well, hey, if you
wanna be cast, why don't you come out?

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We'll put you in the movie. We'll
teach you how to be a stunt guy."

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You know, I was gonna
go to LA for holiday.

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And he's like, "Why don't you just
come to Mexico and get on a movie set?"

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And I'm like, "Well, I'm not gonna
be working. It's gonna be weird."

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And he's like, "Just come. It'll
be cool. You'll get to see it."

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So, yeah, I took my money that I was gonna
spend on that trip, and I flew to Mexico.

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It was an awesome experience.

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We just put him to work as
little background extras

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and then started
teaching him stunts.

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And then he looked
like one of the guys.

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So, "Hey, just double this
guy in this fight scene."

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He's like, "What
do I gotta do?"

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"Just snap your
head like this."

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I got to work one day on that.

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Brian Thompson throws me
through a wicker chair.

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I was so excited.
Couldn't wait.

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Just do it again. Take
2. Take 3. Let's do it.

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But luckily it was a low-budget movie,
so they could only afford one take,

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so one breakaway,
and I was done.

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Dave wasn't pretentious at all,

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so it wasn't about looking cool like
stunt guys are trying to look cool.

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He would play any part. He'd
play the guy that would cry.

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He'd play the homeless
guy. He'd play the cop.

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A lot of stunt guys just
wanted to do the stunt.

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They didn't want to act.

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Dave was like,
"I'll do the part."

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So, very quickly, his
career kind of took off.

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After that couple of years, we ended
up getting a run on television.

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Chad was doubling the
lead on The Pretender,

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and I was doubling a
ton of different guys.

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There was another thing
that was happening too.

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Martial arts had started to come
to America in terms of action.

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Shows like Buffy the Vampire
Slayer or Martial Law.

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And the stunt world at
that time was very cowboy,

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car, motorcycle oriented.

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But now when you had this really
specific need for martial arts stuntmen,

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we became hot commodities.

231
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And that's when Chad got his
break on the first Matrix.

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Oh, my God. That was the
first time I met you.

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The Matrix.

234
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It's impossible to really talk
about any of the John Wicks

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without talking about Matrix.

236
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- Yeah.
- That's where we all met.

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I got this call saying they were
looking for martial art doubles

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for Keanu for a sci-fi movie.

239
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A sci-fi movie! It
was a sci-fi movie.

240
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So I got the call, and I literally
just went in for an audition,

241
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and that's where I met Yuen
Woo-Ping and all the guys.

242
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Then they introduced
me to Tiger Chen.

243
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Two-time national
Chinese wushu champion.

244
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Yeah. It was pretty
mind-blowing actually.

245
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This is Chen Hu.
Call him Tiger Chen.

246
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He was in charge of training Keanu
Reeves for all the Matrix movies.

247
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He's also my coach.

248
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One of the best
performers ever in wuxia.

249
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So, when I got called to
do the audition in Burbank,

250
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all that was told to me was
it's a Keanu Reeves sci-fi movie

251
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and they need some kung
fu guy. Sci-fi movie.

252
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I'm like, "You need kung fu?"

253
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He said, "Just go down
there and audition."

254
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I meet Woo-Ping, I meet the Wachowskis,
and they say, "Okay, follow him."

255
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And he goes fucking Wile E. Coyote and
just does the Tasmanian Devil thing.

256
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Some of the best martial
arts stuff I've ever seen.

257
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And I'm like, "Follow him?"

258
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Every tumbling pass, every
kick, every form, everything.

259
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I'm, like, in jeans and a
T-shirt, dripping in sweat, going,

260
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"Well, this is a different
kind of audition."

261
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He was like jumping, kicking,
punching. Woo-Ping says, "This is good.

262
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He looks like Keanu, too."

263
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From the very first day,
he's training all the time.

264
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Every day, even the weekend.

265
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Every weekend he's
just calling me.

266
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I was like, you know,
trying to go out and play,

267
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you know, go somewhere to play,
he was calling me, like...

268
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- No, please. Please.
- "Can we training? Can we training?"

269
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Please don't go karaoke.

270
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I just didn't want to suck.

271
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'Cause I saw Keanu, and how
much they had trained him,

272
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and he had like a six-month head start,
and he was already, like, really good.

273
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I had to go through so much training
to learn, like, the kung fu and stuff.

274
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Hong Kong style. All
the wild wirework.

275
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And wirework wasn't huge even in
mainstream stunts at the time,

276
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so I'm almost learning from
Keanu a lot of the times.

277
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He had already been doing the choreography
a couple months at least, right?

278
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And some of your kung
fu was outstanding.

279
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Well, no. Movie kung fu.

280
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The movie kung fu was
pretty... Movie kung fu.

281
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You'd already got the forms
right, everything looks good.

282
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You had the flexibility
going. Yeah.

283
00:15:34,096 --> 00:15:35,964
Oh, yeah. There you
are helping me out.

284
00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:39,267
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah. Fucking awesome.

285
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That's Chad into the wall.

286
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That's Chad into the wall.

287
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That's Chad into the ceiling.

288
00:15:47,075 --> 00:15:50,145
Oh, yeah. Then he's gonna break
his knee coming down from that.

289
00:15:50,278 --> 00:15:52,080
That's right. Yeah.

290
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There he is on crutches.

291
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Before and afters.
Before and after.

292
00:15:56,518 --> 00:15:59,321
Yeah. We learned so much
on that show. Oh, my God.

293
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Chad came back from The Matrix,

294
00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:04,292
and he was like, "Here's
what's happening, guys.

295
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Like, they shoot and
edit their own stuff.

296
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They choreograph, and
they cut it all together.

297
00:16:09,231 --> 00:16:12,467
And they're telling their own
stories in their own sequences."

298
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And they're like,
"We gotta do this.

299
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This is the way we should be
approaching all this stuff."

300
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And action.

301
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We started to do it ourselves,

302
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and we would get all the
martial art stunt guys together,

303
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:30,285
and we would choreograph
and edit fight scenes

304
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as an exercise, but also
because we just loved it.

305
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We would go and take a
scene from Jackie Chan,

306
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and we would
recreate that scene.

307
00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,360
And it became very
apparent that Chad and Dave

308
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were thinking like directors.

309
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Like, why did the
camera go there?

310
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Why did we use this
lens? How many shots?

311
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How many moves do we hold
here before we move here?

312
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Previs was a game changer. Now
directors saw what we can do.

313
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Soon we became known for that.

314
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People would request them.
Directors would request them.

315
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Somewhere along the way,
we started a stunt team.

316
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Then we started a stunt company.

317
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They don't like that camera.

318
00:17:03,651 --> 00:17:07,222
They don't like
it? No. I can tell.

319
00:17:09,191 --> 00:17:11,726
The idea behind 87eleven was
that it was a one-stop shop.

320
00:17:11,926 --> 00:17:14,496
They were an action
design company.

321
00:17:14,662 --> 00:17:17,232
You come here and you get a
fight team, a fight coordinator,

322
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stunt coordinator, second unit
director, the whole package in one.

323
00:17:22,170 --> 00:17:23,505
Whoo!

324
00:17:23,671 --> 00:17:25,031
We were all kind
of with this team,

325
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we worked together,
we trained together.

326
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Chad and I got married.

327
00:17:28,376 --> 00:17:30,345
So it was a very fun time.

328
00:17:30,512 --> 00:17:32,580
Cheers.

329
00:17:32,780 --> 00:17:34,849
I'll talk to you in a bit.
Bye. See you later. Bye.

330
00:17:34,949 --> 00:17:36,518
Even if we didn't
have a project,

331
00:17:36,951 --> 00:17:38,885
Chad would just make us do
drills like we had a project.

332
00:17:38,886 --> 00:17:41,256
Put us in situations
like, "Choreograph this.

333
00:17:41,456 --> 00:17:44,326
You guys gotta learn this martial
art. Let's do this. Let's spar.

334
00:17:44,492 --> 00:17:46,704
Let's put a knife in hand. Let's
see what happens when we do this."

335
00:17:46,728 --> 00:17:48,230
Our company started
to get bigger,

336
00:17:48,396 --> 00:17:50,898
and I was the one that was
more of a coordinator first,

337
00:17:51,065 --> 00:17:53,067
so Dave was working
for me a lot.

338
00:17:53,235 --> 00:17:56,604
Dave and Chad. Okay, let's step out
and narrate this for a second, okay?

339
00:17:56,804 --> 00:17:58,106
All right...

340
00:17:58,306 --> 00:18:00,742
Two partners. Two best
friends. Here we go.

341
00:18:00,908 --> 00:18:03,711
Aw, see, there's the hug. Aw.

342
00:18:03,878 --> 00:18:05,547
They were best friends,
thick as thieves.

343
00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:08,416
You know, always training
together, always working together.

344
00:18:09,551 --> 00:18:11,762
But then we were very fortunate,
we had a lot of work offers,

345
00:18:11,786 --> 00:18:13,488
so Dave started doing his thing.

346
00:18:13,888 --> 00:18:16,157
And he became a stunt coordinator
and a choreographer as well.

347
00:18:16,158 --> 00:18:19,227
Switch your lead
to the right lead.

348
00:18:19,394 --> 00:18:23,465
By that time, they were
like this old married couple

349
00:18:23,665 --> 00:18:27,469
that bickered and fought, but
also, like, tight as can be.

350
00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:29,871
We used to call them
Dad and Uncle Dad.

351
00:18:30,071 --> 00:18:32,740
Before John Wick, Chad
and I had directed

352
00:18:32,907 --> 00:18:34,209
a lot of second unit together.

353
00:18:34,542 --> 00:18:36,543
And then our company was
getting so many calls

354
00:18:36,544 --> 00:18:38,246
that we started to
work separately.

355
00:18:38,413 --> 00:18:41,216
I was doing big second units.
He was doing big second units.

356
00:18:41,383 --> 00:18:42,984
Action.

357
00:18:43,185 --> 00:18:45,263
We were seeing each other every
day and talking every day.

358
00:18:45,287 --> 00:18:47,322
We'd riff different
ideas for choreography.

359
00:18:47,522 --> 00:18:50,425
He'd be on, like, TRON and be like,
"Hey, how do I do laser disc things?"

360
00:18:50,592 --> 00:18:53,795
And I'd be like, "There's some ideas,"
and bounce things off of each other.

361
00:18:57,699 --> 00:19:00,635
You start to realize, "I'm
telling one third of the story.

362
00:19:00,802 --> 00:19:03,137
I might as well tell
the whole story."

363
00:19:03,305 --> 00:19:05,272
Dave was already going down
the first unit director

364
00:19:05,273 --> 00:19:07,141
before I was actually.

365
00:19:07,575 --> 00:19:09,843
I was still, you know, pretty content
doing all the second unit stuff.

366
00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:11,879
I was really getting the itch,

367
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,016
and I was, like, out there looking to
find scripts and get them developed,

368
00:19:16,017 --> 00:19:18,453
but to not much success.

369
00:19:19,454 --> 00:19:21,589
They were offered
movies left and right,

370
00:19:21,756 --> 00:19:24,426
but they were all like
the $5 million specials,

371
00:19:24,592 --> 00:19:25,960
and they turned everything down.

372
00:19:26,127 --> 00:19:28,530
They were waiting for
the right, right project.

373
00:19:31,966 --> 00:19:33,668
At the time,

374
00:19:33,835 --> 00:19:37,805
I had finally optioned my first
screenplay to Voltage Pictures.

375
00:19:37,972 --> 00:19:41,276
It was 1,500 bucks which, at
the time, was two months' rent.

376
00:19:41,443 --> 00:19:43,311
And I was trying to figure
out what to do next.

377
00:19:43,478 --> 00:19:46,113
I remember just kind of going,
"I haven't done a revenge movie."

378
00:19:46,281 --> 00:19:47,825
And our neighbors were
heading out of town,

379
00:19:47,849 --> 00:19:49,784
and they had just
adopted a chorgi,

380
00:19:49,951 --> 00:19:52,620
which is a Chihuahua-corgi,
puppy named Moose.

381
00:19:52,787 --> 00:19:58,460
And I always write slouched in my
chair with a pillow across my chest,

382
00:19:58,626 --> 00:20:01,229
and the puppy slept
on the pillow.

383
00:20:02,264 --> 00:20:04,299
And I started writing,
and I'd be like,

384
00:20:04,466 --> 00:20:08,069
"Man, what if someone
killed this fucking puppy?"

385
00:20:08,270 --> 00:20:11,806
We had met Derek on a general meeting.
I'd read another script of his.

386
00:20:12,006 --> 00:20:15,910
And he pitched this. He's like, "I have
this action script I wrote called Scorn."

387
00:20:16,110 --> 00:20:19,814
I remember vividly reading it
that weekend and emailing Basil.

388
00:20:19,981 --> 00:20:23,021
I still have the email, and it was like,
"There's something about this script.

389
00:20:23,050 --> 00:20:24,330
I think it's 'cause I love dogs.

390
00:20:24,452 --> 00:20:25,587
The villain's really thin,

391
00:20:25,887 --> 00:20:27,654
and it's not perfect
by any means,

392
00:20:27,655 --> 00:20:29,424
but I think we
should go for it."

393
00:20:29,624 --> 00:20:31,759
And he wrote back, "I agree."

394
00:20:31,959 --> 00:20:34,161
There was just a
clean, crazy hook.

395
00:20:34,329 --> 00:20:37,365
"You killed my dog, and
now I will exact revenge."

396
00:20:37,532 --> 00:20:39,734
I wrote it with
Paul Newman in mind.

397
00:20:39,901 --> 00:20:42,837
So, he was in his early 70s.
It was a Robert De Niro type.

398
00:20:43,004 --> 00:20:45,340
His wife dies, he gets the
dog, and the car is stolen,

399
00:20:45,507 --> 00:20:47,041
and he kicks some ass.

400
00:20:47,208 --> 00:20:51,379
The dog was the last tenuous
connection he had to his wife.

401
00:20:51,546 --> 00:20:55,750
But the body count was, you
know, less than two dozen.

402
00:20:55,883 --> 00:20:57,685
But I realized soon afterwards

403
00:20:58,052 --> 00:21:01,187
that I may have backed myself
into a corner because of the age.

404
00:21:01,188 --> 00:21:03,891
And so then I was thinking, "Okay,
do you go with slightly younger?

405
00:21:04,058 --> 00:21:05,893
You know, what's that
age underneath it?"

406
00:21:05,993 --> 00:21:08,029
Then we started
thinking about Keanu.

407
00:21:08,463 --> 00:21:11,665
Keanu's agent is Basil's best friend
from childhood and my first boss.

408
00:21:11,666 --> 00:21:15,303
And he was like, you know,
"Keanu is looking for something."

409
00:21:15,503 --> 00:21:21,075
He just did 47 Ronin and was just
finished shooting Man of Tai Chi.

410
00:21:21,242 --> 00:21:24,779
He's ready to lean into
his movie star-ness.

411
00:21:24,946 --> 00:21:27,306
'Cause the thing about Keanu,
and a lot of actors like this,

412
00:21:27,382 --> 00:21:30,284
but especially Keanu, when he
feels like he's repeating himself,

413
00:21:30,452 --> 00:21:32,219
he runs the other way.

414
00:21:32,387 --> 00:21:34,589
And sometimes you
have to get an actor

415
00:21:34,756 --> 00:21:38,426
when he or she is ready to give
the audience what they want.

416
00:21:38,593 --> 00:21:41,095
And Keanu was at a moment
in time where he's like,

417
00:21:41,262 --> 00:21:43,598
"I'm ready to be an
action star again."

418
00:21:43,765 --> 00:21:47,902
And so we met, and soon afterwards,
he attached himself to the project.

419
00:21:50,304 --> 00:21:52,840
We took about six months
of developing the script

420
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,477
with Keanu's notes
with Derek Kolstad.

421
00:21:55,643 --> 00:21:57,645
We spent a lot of time
together on that first one,

422
00:21:57,812 --> 00:22:01,282
and it was slow going,
like page, line by line.

423
00:22:01,449 --> 00:22:04,919
He spent just as much time on other
people's dialogue as he did on himself.

424
00:22:05,086 --> 00:22:09,256
At a certain point, it was like,
"Okay, how much longer could this go?"

425
00:22:09,391 --> 00:22:11,493
We could develop this forever.

426
00:22:11,893 --> 00:22:13,860
And then, always... there's always an
inflection point on these movies, right,

427
00:22:13,861 --> 00:22:16,498
in development, when you develop
with an actor, where you go,

428
00:22:16,664 --> 00:22:18,533
"Okay, can we bring
a director on?"

429
00:22:18,733 --> 00:22:21,436
And he said yes.

430
00:22:21,603 --> 00:22:25,139
But in the period of our development,
couple things happened, unfortunately.

431
00:22:25,339 --> 00:22:27,742
47 Ronin came out,
and it didn't do well.

432
00:22:27,942 --> 00:22:30,778
Man of Tai Chi came
out and disappointed.

433
00:22:30,945 --> 00:22:35,517
So the narrative that Keanu Reeves
is an action star just evaporated.

434
00:22:35,683 --> 00:22:38,986
And all of a sudden, our director
list went from here to like here.

435
00:22:39,153 --> 00:22:43,558
We're gonna have to really work hard
to find a proper director for this.

436
00:22:43,758 --> 00:22:45,793
Keanu was like, "Listen,
I'm gonna give the movie

437
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,996
to Chad and Dave for second
unit. They're action directors.

438
00:22:49,664 --> 00:22:51,566
What if they directed?"

439
00:22:51,766 --> 00:22:56,838
So, from my notes from an email,
in the forensics of John Wick,

440
00:22:56,938 --> 00:22:58,540
you met with Basil.

441
00:22:58,973 --> 00:23:01,942
I wanted you and Dave pitched
to them to be the directors

442
00:23:01,943 --> 00:23:05,312
on April 29th, 2013.

443
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,415
A week before, you had
sent me the script.

444
00:23:07,615 --> 00:23:08,883
Yeah. And we had talked.

445
00:23:09,150 --> 00:23:10,651
And we had talked. Well,
you had sent it to me

446
00:23:10,652 --> 00:23:13,320
for the action. For
the action. Yeah.

447
00:23:13,488 --> 00:23:15,633
I was like, "Yeah"... Well,
no, I had called for action,

448
00:23:15,657 --> 00:23:18,359
but then I think you
came back to me saying,

449
00:23:18,526 --> 00:23:20,762
"Dave and I would
like to direct it."

450
00:23:20,962 --> 00:23:23,441
Oh, no. I think you smiled and
went, "Yeah, that's why you're..."

451
00:23:23,465 --> 00:23:25,500
Yeah. And so, then
I was like, Basil...

452
00:23:25,667 --> 00:23:28,703
You were manipulating
us. I was...

453
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:30,104
But I was hoping.

454
00:23:30,472 --> 00:23:33,640
And then I saw from
Basil's email to me,

455
00:23:33,641 --> 00:23:37,779
he wrote, "Best directors
meeting he's had."

456
00:23:37,979 --> 00:23:40,548
We put together this
incredible lookbook here,

457
00:23:40,748 --> 00:23:46,120
and we started to sort of build the
worlds of John Wick in the way we saw it.

458
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,592
It was a lot more stylized than
I think anyone saw on the page.

459
00:23:50,758 --> 00:23:53,728
Peace. He's looking for peace.
Look at that shot of Keanu.

460
00:23:53,895 --> 00:23:55,630
Emotional connection.

461
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:57,599
See, we said all
the right things.

462
00:23:57,765 --> 00:23:59,467
We talked about it
being a modern fable.

463
00:23:59,667 --> 00:24:02,269
We talked about this sort
of visual minimalism.

464
00:24:02,436 --> 00:24:04,939
She knew he needed
an attachment.

465
00:24:05,106 --> 00:24:08,743
Yep. And that was a whole
week of casting for Daisy.

466
00:24:08,910 --> 00:24:11,579
We wanted to have a
world of, like, fun cars.

467
00:24:11,746 --> 00:24:16,784
We wanted to have sort of our
exploration of action and gun fu.

468
00:24:16,951 --> 00:24:19,787
Yeah, and again, sort of the
love letter to graphic novels

469
00:24:19,954 --> 00:24:22,089
and anime and all of
that that we love.

470
00:24:22,256 --> 00:24:25,827
Transformation.
Guns, lots of guns.

471
00:24:26,027 --> 00:24:30,164
Boogeyman. World. New York
City. The Continental.

472
00:24:30,364 --> 00:24:31,364
They just didn't talk
about the action.

473
00:24:31,365 --> 00:24:32,967
They talked about the emotion

474
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,368
about what the world looked
like and about everything.

475
00:24:35,369 --> 00:24:37,038
I was blown away.

476
00:24:37,438 --> 00:24:40,507
This is... It's a pretty
damn good lookbook.

477
00:24:40,508 --> 00:24:43,978
You have to remember, we saw John
Wick as like this tiny little thing.

478
00:24:44,145 --> 00:24:46,924
Two stunt guys directing, like, "No one's
ever gonna see this thing, so fuck it.

479
00:24:46,948 --> 00:24:50,618
We'll just try some weird ideas. We'll
use it like as a training exercise."

480
00:24:50,785 --> 00:24:54,121
And, you know,
then they said yes.

481
00:24:54,288 --> 00:24:56,858
And now we're like, "We
better know what we're doing."

482
00:24:57,058 --> 00:25:00,261
I remember thinking, "Oh, my God,
we got these two great action guys

483
00:25:00,427 --> 00:25:02,195
before anyone else can get them.

484
00:25:02,196 --> 00:25:03,965
What a home run."

485
00:25:04,431 --> 00:25:06,567
And I'll never forget, like
three weeks after we hire them,

486
00:25:06,568 --> 00:25:09,303
Ed Pressman, the famous Ed
Pressman who's since passed away,

487
00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:11,639
calls me about something else.

488
00:25:11,806 --> 00:25:15,009
And he goes, "You stole my directors."
I'm like, "What do you mean?"

489
00:25:15,176 --> 00:25:18,145
"Yeah, we're about to go into prep
on a movie that I was producing.

490
00:25:18,312 --> 00:25:19,513
They were gonna direct it."

491
00:25:19,681 --> 00:25:20,747
I'm like, "What movie?"

492
00:25:20,748 --> 00:25:22,416
And they're like...

493
00:25:22,917 --> 00:25:25,518
It was a movie like Midnight
Run with Jean-Claude Van Damme

494
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:27,622
and PSY from "Gangnam Style."

495
00:25:27,789 --> 00:25:30,792
And I'm like, "Those are the directors
I got? That was the other option?"

496
00:25:33,427 --> 00:25:37,031
Uh, the shorter the beard is, the
harder it is to make it look real.

497
00:25:37,198 --> 00:25:38,800
Well, we would want
it to be a bushy one.

498
00:25:38,966 --> 00:25:40,234
Okay. Right, right.

499
00:25:40,434 --> 00:25:44,005
I mean, we have to
make some hard choices.

500
00:25:44,171 --> 00:25:46,908
I mean, I was just like
pulling, like what is...

501
00:25:47,108 --> 00:25:49,343
I didn't know what exactly.

502
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:51,813
Are they more in this happiness?

503
00:25:51,979 --> 00:25:53,480
Yes, this is more
in their happiness.

504
00:25:53,648 --> 00:25:54,968
We're hoping for
that. Okay, okay.

505
00:25:55,016 --> 00:25:56,656
And of course, what I
worry about this is,

506
00:25:56,818 --> 00:25:59,887
you can see it on this side,
is how patchy that beard is.

507
00:26:00,054 --> 00:26:01,689
I mean, that doesn't bother me.

508
00:26:01,856 --> 00:26:03,867
If you guys can live with that,
because if we get that short,

509
00:26:03,891 --> 00:26:05,326
I can't add hairs
to fill that in.

510
00:26:05,492 --> 00:26:07,052
That doesn't bother
me. This bothers me.

511
00:26:07,294 --> 00:26:08,629
Anything we do is gonna
get a picture taken

512
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:10,231
and sent to people
making a decision.

513
00:26:10,397 --> 00:26:11,508
They'll approve and
we'll figure it out.

514
00:26:11,532 --> 00:26:13,000
We want the beard.

515
00:26:13,167 --> 00:26:14,967
The distributor wants
him not to have a beard.

516
00:26:15,136 --> 00:26:18,004
Like he's supposed to be the
Keanu Reeves of The Matrix.

517
00:26:18,005 --> 00:26:20,708
And we're afraid to shave
it off because, you know,

518
00:26:20,875 --> 00:26:24,045
he's done that look
a million times.

519
00:26:24,211 --> 00:26:27,281
Unfortunately, they're distributing
the movie and have sold it foreign,

520
00:26:27,481 --> 00:26:29,751
and they know what
their people want, so...

521
00:26:29,917 --> 00:26:32,453
I guess nobody cares what
we want. Asia hates beards.

522
00:26:32,654 --> 00:26:34,288
I know.

523
00:26:34,488 --> 00:26:35,923
Asia hates... That's
what they said.

524
00:26:36,090 --> 00:26:37,400
If we leave a beard, no
one's gonna see the movie.

525
00:26:37,424 --> 00:26:38,760
The movie's gonna flop.

526
00:26:38,926 --> 00:26:40,928
Can't be a first-time
director...

527
00:26:41,095 --> 00:26:44,098
"First-time directors, you want to hang
it out there and have a beard? Okay."

528
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,969
Bye-bye, John Wick.

529
00:26:49,336 --> 00:26:51,414
Partial bye-bye. We're not
going bye-bye all the way yet.

530
00:26:51,438 --> 00:26:53,641
Yeah, no. It's like,
"Hello, new John Wick."

531
00:26:59,914 --> 00:27:02,583
So, this is the next guard down.

532
00:27:03,550 --> 00:27:05,586
Still looks like a beard.

533
00:27:05,787 --> 00:27:07,865
That's what I'm concerned about
too, and what they're gonna think.

534
00:27:07,889 --> 00:27:11,058
Looks just like a beard.

535
00:27:11,225 --> 00:27:13,494
Go to the next level?
Gotta go to the next level.

536
00:27:14,228 --> 00:27:15,629
Go one more down?

537
00:27:15,797 --> 00:27:17,164
Well, that's beard.

538
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:20,802
We're all just like,
holding on. I know.

539
00:27:20,968 --> 00:27:24,005
They were pretty
straightforward about...

540
00:27:24,205 --> 00:27:25,306
No beard. Yeah.

541
00:27:25,472 --> 00:27:26,472
Yeah.

542
00:27:36,550 --> 00:27:38,252
We're going to get
action out of the hair.

543
00:27:38,419 --> 00:27:40,021
Gotta get it a little bushy.

544
00:27:41,622 --> 00:27:42,656
A little...

545
00:27:46,427 --> 00:27:47,594
Okay.

546
00:27:51,966 --> 00:27:53,367
Chuck it! Chuck it! Chuck it!

547
00:27:57,171 --> 00:27:58,873
The suit definitely helps.

548
00:27:59,073 --> 00:28:00,507
It's all about the suit.

549
00:28:01,943 --> 00:28:03,477
It's all about the suit.

550
00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:11,185
Tomorrow will be the
first day, right?

551
00:28:11,352 --> 00:28:12,820
Tomorrow will be the first day.

552
00:28:12,987 --> 00:28:14,822
Tomorrow will be the
first day of photography.

553
00:28:14,989 --> 00:28:18,225
We are looking at
the John Wick house,

554
00:28:18,425 --> 00:28:21,462
and it's sort of three-quarters
of the way dressed.

555
00:28:21,628 --> 00:28:24,165
And we're gonna block
some scenes here

556
00:28:24,331 --> 00:28:27,168
and be ready to shoot
tomorrow, hopefully.

557
00:28:27,334 --> 00:28:28,569
We're getting on with it.

558
00:28:33,174 --> 00:28:35,476
What does it say?

559
00:28:36,343 --> 00:28:38,045
We're shooting on Monday?

560
00:28:39,814 --> 00:28:41,315
Oh. Peter Lawson.

561
00:28:44,852 --> 00:28:45,887
Pete.

562
00:28:48,055 --> 00:28:49,723
I'm great. I just
got the email.

563
00:28:51,292 --> 00:28:54,762
We are temporarily shut
down until further notice.

564
00:28:54,962 --> 00:28:57,531
It seems our equity investor

565
00:28:57,698 --> 00:29:01,769
who had to come up with
the 6.5 to cover the gap,

566
00:29:01,969 --> 00:29:05,106
um, he's five and a half short.

567
00:29:07,341 --> 00:29:11,112
We had some financiers
coming in to gap finance

568
00:29:11,312 --> 00:29:14,381
because Lionsgate presold
the international,

569
00:29:14,548 --> 00:29:17,551
but there was still a delta of
what we needed to make the movie.

570
00:29:17,718 --> 00:29:20,621
No one was ready to get
onboard for the domestic.

571
00:29:20,822 --> 00:29:22,857
So it was really
something that, you know,

572
00:29:23,024 --> 00:29:25,144
we were gonna have to figure
out how to find the money.

573
00:29:26,227 --> 00:29:28,262
I mean, maybe if we
get Lionsgate onboard,

574
00:29:28,429 --> 00:29:32,033
and they take the domestic, and
we could keep moving forward,

575
00:29:32,199 --> 00:29:34,401
but I doubt it at this point.

576
00:29:34,568 --> 00:29:36,814
I think everyone's just gonna
have to take a kick in the nuts,

577
00:29:36,838 --> 00:29:38,940
and it's all probably
gonna fall apart.

578
00:29:39,907 --> 00:29:41,408
That's what I think.

579
00:29:41,575 --> 00:29:47,281
I think this is, uh, the
nail in the coffin. So...

580
00:29:47,448 --> 00:29:49,951
You think so,
really? Yeah, I do.

581
00:29:50,117 --> 00:29:52,319
Wait, hold on.
No, I mean, I do.

582
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:54,655
I'm not trying to be
dramatic for, you know,

583
00:29:54,856 --> 00:29:56,924
editorial reasons
for our documentary,

584
00:29:57,091 --> 00:30:01,428
but I don't know how you find
six-and-a-half million dollars by Monday.

585
00:30:07,301 --> 00:30:10,671
What little I know of Basil, I
know he's not a quitter, so...

586
00:30:10,872 --> 00:30:13,274
He's a bit of a fighter,
so we're not dead yet.

587
00:30:14,775 --> 00:30:18,012
We are doomed. I mean,
we are completely fucked.

588
00:30:19,613 --> 00:30:22,416
We just had a gigantic hole. There
was just... The money wasn't coming.

589
00:30:22,583 --> 00:30:27,154
And I spoke to my lawyer and I'm like,
"Well, say, if this movie falls apart,

590
00:30:27,254 --> 00:30:28,722
who's gonna sue me?"

591
00:30:29,056 --> 00:30:33,126
And he's like, "IATSE,
SAG, the WGA, DGA." This...

592
00:30:33,127 --> 00:30:34,929
It was, like, horrendous.

593
00:30:35,362 --> 00:30:37,097
And he's like, "Listen, you
gotta just get this movie made."

594
00:30:37,098 --> 00:30:38,818
Say if I was to give
you like six million...

595
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:40,367
Hey, hon? Can I call you back?

596
00:30:40,567 --> 00:30:43,004
I got Keanu on the other line,
so I need to talk to him.

597
00:30:43,938 --> 00:30:45,539
Thanks, hon. Bye.

598
00:30:45,739 --> 00:30:48,775
Hang on one second.
He's on the phone.

599
00:30:49,343 --> 00:30:50,511
Hello.

600
00:30:53,747 --> 00:30:55,316
What's going on?
How you doing?

601
00:30:58,285 --> 00:31:00,687
Nice. Did Basil
give you a call?

602
00:31:03,925 --> 00:31:06,860
He did not, huh? You haven't
talked to anybody in the office?

603
00:31:09,096 --> 00:31:11,899
Excellent. They're
probably stalling on him.

604
00:31:14,768 --> 00:31:16,837
It's... Yeah, I... Fucking...

605
00:31:17,304 --> 00:31:20,740
I'm a little annoyed, so I
think I'll just tell you myself.

606
00:31:20,741 --> 00:31:22,676
They've had a problem
with their gap finance.

607
00:31:22,843 --> 00:31:24,545
They're coming in.

608
00:31:24,811 --> 00:31:27,181
We've recalled everybody,
and they've pushed us again.

609
00:31:29,116 --> 00:31:31,436
I'm sure they're scrambling
trying to figure something out.

610
00:31:31,485 --> 00:31:33,587
We have a few options around.

611
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:37,091
Luckily, we know a few people, so we'll
try and close the gap as fast as we can.

612
00:31:37,224 --> 00:31:42,096
So we'll get back to the office
probably in the next 45 minutes,

613
00:31:42,296 --> 00:31:45,199
storm into the office and
try to retake the beach.

614
00:31:47,734 --> 00:31:48,835
What did Keanu say?

615
00:31:51,172 --> 00:31:54,508
You know, Keanu is
a little different.

616
00:31:54,675 --> 00:31:56,710
When he yells and screams,
it's a good thing.

617
00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:00,881
When he gets really,
really, really quiet...

618
00:32:01,048 --> 00:32:02,616
Was he getting really quiet?

619
00:32:02,816 --> 00:32:05,886
He was the most quiet
I've ever heard him.

620
00:32:16,163 --> 00:32:18,465
I reckon we'll lose
about 20% of the crew.

621
00:32:19,566 --> 00:32:21,635
There's already people gone.

622
00:32:21,835 --> 00:32:23,537
A big part of the
production office

623
00:32:23,704 --> 00:32:25,139
just stopped coming in to work.

624
00:32:25,339 --> 00:32:27,250
But then another part of the
production office came in,

625
00:32:27,274 --> 00:32:28,885
and they would come in
my office, and like,

626
00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:31,212
"Do you feel confident
the money will come?"

627
00:32:31,378 --> 00:32:33,247
And I'm like, "I do."

628
00:32:33,414 --> 00:32:39,253
Uh, now, I was lying
because I had no idea.

629
00:32:40,754 --> 00:32:43,033
So much so, I had to give my
credit card to the costume designer

630
00:32:43,057 --> 00:32:47,094
to buy wardrobe, and it was
really, really, really dodgy.

631
00:32:47,261 --> 00:32:52,832
Any chance of reducing the budget
by six-and-a-half million dollars

632
00:32:52,833 --> 00:32:54,135
and making the movie happen?

633
00:32:54,468 --> 00:32:56,337
That script would look
radically different,

634
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:59,406
and then you'd have to go back to
all of your international buyers

635
00:32:59,573 --> 00:33:05,746
and go, "Hey, you paid us, you know,
250,000 for the rights in Germany,

636
00:33:05,912 --> 00:33:07,848
but this is the script
you're getting now."

637
00:33:08,049 --> 00:33:10,984
And then everyone can go,
"I don't want that script.

638
00:33:11,152 --> 00:33:12,953
- I wanted the one that I bought."
- Right.

639
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,089
And so, you kind of have
to keep the integrity.

640
00:33:15,256 --> 00:33:16,823
You can change it.

641
00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:18,692
Slightly, but not...

642
00:33:18,892 --> 00:33:21,028
Yeah. Six million dollars.

643
00:33:24,965 --> 00:33:27,668
Keanu gave back money,
Chad and I gave back money.

644
00:33:27,834 --> 00:33:31,372
Like, we all gave back money of our
salaries to try and close the gap.

645
00:33:32,573 --> 00:33:34,641
I think Keanu had to
defer and write a check...

646
00:33:34,808 --> 00:33:36,343
Yeah. Some of that going on.

647
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,279
...just to keep our
department heads.

648
00:33:39,313 --> 00:33:40,881
I remember I would
walk to my hotel

649
00:33:41,082 --> 00:33:44,485
from the production office
for hours because I was like,

650
00:33:44,651 --> 00:33:48,389
"I need to get so tired so when I
get back to the hotel, I pass out."

651
00:33:48,589 --> 00:33:50,991
Because if I don't, I'm gonna
sit there and I'm gonna be like,

652
00:33:51,158 --> 00:33:53,078
"I'm fucked, I'm fucked,
I'm fucked, I'm fucked."

653
00:33:53,194 --> 00:33:54,495
We gotta fucking start.

654
00:33:54,695 --> 00:33:56,863
If we don't have guys
on planes by Monday,

655
00:33:56,997 --> 00:33:59,566
you might as well cut the end
sequence. It's gonna be a gunfight.

656
00:34:01,302 --> 00:34:03,470
We've already pushed
for seven days

657
00:34:03,637 --> 00:34:08,008
and that's like a half million
dollars' worth of money

658
00:34:08,175 --> 00:34:10,377
that just went out
the fucking window

659
00:34:10,544 --> 00:34:15,182
when the mo... when we
were 600 short to start.

660
00:34:16,483 --> 00:34:17,684
It's a fucking mess.

661
00:34:21,455 --> 00:34:25,492
And then, out of nowhere,
the money came through.

662
00:34:32,633 --> 00:34:35,402
Should be fully
financed by tomorrow.

663
00:34:37,371 --> 00:34:39,206
Ready to shoot on Friday.

664
00:34:40,174 --> 00:34:42,008
We were blessed.

665
00:34:42,176 --> 00:34:45,212
It was insane that we pulled this
off in the amount of time we did.

666
00:34:45,379 --> 00:34:47,614
It's gonna be... This
movie's about vengeance.

667
00:34:47,814 --> 00:34:49,350
Not John Wick's.

668
00:34:49,516 --> 00:34:51,017
Ours.

669
00:34:51,185 --> 00:34:52,853
And then we find out
while we're shooting

670
00:34:53,019 --> 00:34:54,755
that the money was
never from this guy,

671
00:34:54,921 --> 00:34:56,623
but it was Eva Longoria's money.

672
00:34:56,823 --> 00:35:01,762
And I didn't tell Keanu
until after the movie wrapped

673
00:35:01,928 --> 00:35:04,374
because I didn't want him to be like,
"What the hell is going on here?"

674
00:35:04,398 --> 00:35:07,201
So yeah, if you
look at John Wick 1,

675
00:35:07,368 --> 00:35:11,037
Eva Longoria, thank God,
pretty much saved the movie.

676
00:35:12,806 --> 00:35:14,608
We got through it,

677
00:35:15,075 --> 00:35:17,377
but I think that it broke a little
bit of Chad and Dave's spirit

678
00:35:17,378 --> 00:35:19,746
because they were
first-time directors,

679
00:35:19,913 --> 00:35:23,049
and they didn't realize that
sometimes this is the game.

680
00:35:23,217 --> 00:35:25,286
Things happen, especially
in independent movies.

681
00:35:25,452 --> 00:35:30,157
And so, we went into shooting the movie.
We were already exhausted as we started.

682
00:35:31,692 --> 00:35:33,570
I mean, I remember when I
got to New York, and I...

683
00:35:33,594 --> 00:35:35,762
You know, I like to visit
the production office.

684
00:35:35,862 --> 00:35:37,598
See what's going on. Yeah.

685
00:35:38,031 --> 00:35:42,335
And I took John Saunders, who
was the first AD, and I was like,

686
00:35:42,336 --> 00:35:44,856
"John, let's look at the board,"
you know, the shooting schedule.

687
00:35:44,971 --> 00:35:46,907
I remember that. You
wanted to see the schedule.

688
00:35:47,073 --> 00:35:48,942
Yeah. You're a schedule whore.

689
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:51,845
And I was just like, "How are
we... We can't shoot that.

690
00:35:52,045 --> 00:35:53,285
Like, how are we
gonna do that?"

691
00:35:53,447 --> 00:35:54,924
I remember you just
were shaking your head.

692
00:35:54,948 --> 00:35:56,850
I was like, "No,
we need more days."

693
00:35:57,251 --> 00:35:59,686
And he's like, "I know." I'm
like, "We need to get more days."

694
00:36:00,821 --> 00:36:03,624
We could not wrap our
head around what could go.

695
00:36:03,790 --> 00:36:05,526
How do we do that?
How do we do this?

696
00:36:05,726 --> 00:36:08,762
And Keanu couldn't, and
the writer couldn't,

697
00:36:08,929 --> 00:36:10,797
and the producers couldn't.

698
00:36:11,298 --> 00:36:13,778
So we're like, "We're just gonna
make the movie with less time."

699
00:36:14,901 --> 00:36:16,901
You know, we laugh and joke
about it's just a movie,

700
00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:20,173
but we all know, every crew member
knows that you take it really seriously.

701
00:36:20,341 --> 00:36:22,309
You wanna do the
best job you can.

702
00:36:22,509 --> 00:36:24,387
You don't wanna let down the people
that stuck their neck out for you,

703
00:36:24,411 --> 00:36:26,371
so you put a lot of pressure
on yourself to do it.

704
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,284
I mean, at the end of the day, we had
known Keanu for like the ten years,

705
00:36:30,484 --> 00:36:32,986
eight years at the time
from all the Matrixes.

706
00:36:33,153 --> 00:36:34,955
But it's still Keanu Reeves.

707
00:36:35,121 --> 00:36:36,799
You don't wanna let this guy
down. Like, he's a pro, man.

708
00:36:36,823 --> 00:36:38,292
This is Keanu-fucking-Reeves.

709
00:36:38,459 --> 00:36:39,826
Like, you do not
wanna let him down

710
00:36:39,993 --> 00:36:42,963
no matter what you think
the movie's gonna be.

711
00:36:43,129 --> 00:36:45,866
So we decided to give it our all and
put a lot of stress on ourselves.

712
00:36:46,032 --> 00:36:48,302
Guys, gotta keep moving.
Gotta keep moving.

713
00:36:48,469 --> 00:36:50,070
Rolling! Rolling!

714
00:36:51,438 --> 00:36:52,506
Action!

715
00:36:55,041 --> 00:36:58,345
We were just assaulted
with problems.

716
00:36:58,512 --> 00:36:59,646
Go, go, go.

717
00:36:59,813 --> 00:37:01,047
Shoot, shoot.

718
00:37:06,353 --> 00:37:08,322
Problems from
different departments

719
00:37:08,489 --> 00:37:09,656
and then budgetary problems.

720
00:37:09,823 --> 00:37:11,992
Gotta figure out what
scenes we can cut.

721
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,663
The usual on John Wick,
what scenes we can cut.

722
00:37:17,798 --> 00:37:19,478
'Cause we never have
time to shoot 'em all.

723
00:37:20,801 --> 00:37:23,270
In low-budget filmmaking, you
have to be in your own movies.

724
00:37:23,470 --> 00:37:26,340
I would like to say this was a
creative choice, but it was budgetary.

725
00:37:26,507 --> 00:37:28,775
And then logistically
shooting in New York problems.

726
00:37:28,975 --> 00:37:31,678
Excuse me, you gotta keep
moving. Active walkway.

727
00:37:34,381 --> 00:37:36,917
I think it was just the
movie gods hated us.

728
00:37:37,117 --> 00:37:40,621
So we are on the cover of
the New York Post today.

729
00:37:40,821 --> 00:37:45,058
Vinny's fine work in the
prop department is featured.

730
00:37:46,226 --> 00:37:48,228
Makeup's fine work.
Hair's fine work.

731
00:37:50,196 --> 00:37:52,533
The all-hands-on-deck...
- That really helps.

732
00:37:52,733 --> 00:37:55,135
...on John Wick 1
was extraordinary.

733
00:37:55,336 --> 00:37:59,139
When we went in to start crewing up,
I mean, we were a tiny little movie.

734
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:03,310
No one was sure if we were gonna go. So,
we couldn't really book a lot of crew.

735
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:05,230
So, it was catch-as-catch-can
with the crew.

736
00:38:05,379 --> 00:38:07,619
We just take interviews and
whoever was kind of available,

737
00:38:07,748 --> 00:38:09,215
whatever we... You know.

738
00:38:09,383 --> 00:38:10,751
People had to cut their rates.

739
00:38:10,917 --> 00:38:13,053
And then for the prop department

740
00:38:13,219 --> 00:38:16,957
we got, no joke, Vinny
Mazzarella and Joey.

741
00:38:17,057 --> 00:38:18,925
Yeah, Joey Coppola.
Joey Coppola.

742
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,362
I mean, Vinny Mazzarella and Joey
Coppola, those were our prop masters.

743
00:38:22,363 --> 00:38:26,066
And they were just the coolest
guys, and they just got it.

744
00:38:26,232 --> 00:38:30,437
I mean, Vinny, like, stopping...
Like, we needed a garbage truck.

745
00:38:30,604 --> 00:38:34,240
And he's running on the street.
He's running down the street.

746
00:38:34,441 --> 00:38:37,010
2:00 a.m. in Chinatown in
New York on John Wick 2,

747
00:38:37,210 --> 00:38:40,814
we decided we wanted a garbage truck
to come in the alley and back like...

748
00:38:40,981 --> 00:38:42,649
Yeah, back John Wick up.

749
00:38:42,816 --> 00:38:44,894
Vinny just said, "What do you
guys got in your pockets?"

750
00:38:44,918 --> 00:38:46,318
We gave him a couple
twenties. Yeah.

751
00:38:46,453 --> 00:38:48,589
He came back in five minutes
with a garbage truck.

752
00:38:48,755 --> 00:38:50,290
With a garbage truck.

753
00:38:50,457 --> 00:38:52,626
He paid the city garbage
truck driver a hundred bucks.

754
00:38:55,295 --> 00:38:56,997
I mean, you make
connections on films,

755
00:38:57,431 --> 00:38:59,532
but the connections that were
made on this were really special.

756
00:38:59,533 --> 00:39:01,201
They were pretty good.
Yeah, we got lucky.

757
00:39:01,402 --> 00:39:03,303
Personal and creative. Yep.

758
00:39:03,470 --> 00:39:05,138
You know? Good people.

759
00:39:05,305 --> 00:39:08,442
Loving, who love their work,
who are amazing at what they do.

760
00:39:08,609 --> 00:39:10,444
And they love the pain.

761
00:39:10,611 --> 00:39:12,345
And they... And
who love the pain.

762
00:39:12,513 --> 00:39:14,214
They love to suffer.

763
00:39:26,993 --> 00:39:28,829
Literally the day before
we started shooting,

764
00:39:29,930 --> 00:39:32,899
I saw Chad in the corner
like brooding, angry.

765
00:39:33,099 --> 00:39:35,077
I went to Dave, I'm like,
"What's Chad upset about?

766
00:39:35,101 --> 00:39:37,447
Like, somebody from the movie?"
He's like, "No, it's his wife,"

767
00:39:37,471 --> 00:39:39,540
and this and that. I'm
like, "What do you mean?"

768
00:39:39,706 --> 00:39:41,506
He's like, "Yeah, I think
they're separating."

769
00:39:41,608 --> 00:39:43,710
I'm like, "Now?" This movie?

770
00:39:43,877 --> 00:39:47,047
We just got through hell
financing the movie.

771
00:39:47,213 --> 00:39:48,248
I wasn't getting paid.

772
00:39:48,449 --> 00:39:49,816
Not only was I not getting paid,

773
00:39:49,983 --> 00:39:52,719
I took money out of our
house to fill some holes.

774
00:39:52,886 --> 00:39:54,688
And I'm like, "How can this be?

775
00:39:54,855 --> 00:39:57,157
How many more hits
can this movie take?"

776
00:39:58,324 --> 00:39:59,926
Hey. Hey. How are you?

777
00:40:00,126 --> 00:40:01,862
And I spoke to Chad about it.

778
00:40:02,028 --> 00:40:03,673
I'm just like, "I don't care
what you're going through.

779
00:40:03,697 --> 00:40:05,965
You gotta just suck it
up and get through this."

780
00:40:05,966 --> 00:40:07,926
And he's like, "Absolutely,
don't worry about it."

781
00:40:08,034 --> 00:40:10,571
He's like, "I'll be dark and
self-loathing in private."

782
00:40:12,405 --> 00:40:15,075
We went through a
horrible breakup.

783
00:40:15,241 --> 00:40:17,578
So I did the whole movie
separated from Heidi.

784
00:40:18,879 --> 00:40:20,947
When he's locked
in on something,

785
00:40:21,147 --> 00:40:24,851
when he's focused, it's really
hard to penetrate the wall, right?

786
00:40:25,018 --> 00:40:28,689
So, I think in a relationship,
you know, it's hard,

787
00:40:28,855 --> 00:40:31,625
because when you're looking
for an emotional connection,

788
00:40:31,825 --> 00:40:35,128
or you're looking for some
kind of, you know, something,

789
00:40:35,328 --> 00:40:38,031
and he's just laser focused on
something, you can't get through.

790
00:40:38,198 --> 00:40:39,866
She felt she needed
something more,

791
00:40:40,033 --> 00:40:42,302
and fortunately I
agreed with her.

792
00:40:42,503 --> 00:40:44,246
And then we managed to
get back together again,

793
00:40:44,270 --> 00:40:47,574
of course after post when
I have all this time,

794
00:40:47,774 --> 00:40:52,145
only to get divorced
on John Wick 2.

795
00:40:52,345 --> 00:40:55,616
So, you can see I'm laughing
at my own complete ineptitude

796
00:40:55,782 --> 00:40:57,484
to sort that out
and balance my life.

797
00:41:00,554 --> 00:41:02,823
What was really frustrating
for me was that,

798
00:41:03,023 --> 00:41:04,925
when we got our
one fucking chance

799
00:41:05,091 --> 00:41:08,161
that I personally had been working
on potentially a lot harder than you

800
00:41:08,361 --> 00:41:12,265
to get out there in the director
world, and you're gonna blow it up.

801
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:16,803
It was hard for me to be empathetic
'cause it didn't feel fair.

802
00:41:16,937 --> 00:41:19,057
Two weeks in, Basil called
me on a Sunday and was like,

803
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,975
"You need to be in New York. These
two are not talking to each other."

804
00:41:22,976 --> 00:41:25,445
I actually thought that
two first-time directors

805
00:41:25,612 --> 00:41:27,981
would be better than one
first-time director because,

806
00:41:28,148 --> 00:41:31,251
you know, two sets of hands, you
get more done than one set of hands.

807
00:41:31,417 --> 00:41:33,457
Their disagreements seemed
like it was a progression

808
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:35,656
through the course of shooting.

809
00:41:35,822 --> 00:41:40,193
It's almost like the outside enemy of
getting the film produced was gone,

810
00:41:40,393 --> 00:41:42,195
so now the infighting
could start.

811
00:41:42,395 --> 00:41:46,266
I remember they spent an hour
fighting over colors of bedsheets.

812
00:41:46,432 --> 00:41:49,369
Fucking, it's supposed to be a fucking
cool, hip place where you wanna be.

813
00:41:49,570 --> 00:41:53,974
And it's like a fucking
lavender purple fucking thing.

814
00:41:54,140 --> 00:41:56,509
You know, in retrospect, I
was naive to be surprised.

815
00:41:56,677 --> 00:41:58,378
I think we probably
argued every day.

816
00:41:58,579 --> 00:42:00,045
But I don't think it
was an actual argument.

817
00:42:00,046 --> 00:42:02,015
I think it was we were
both stressed out,

818
00:42:02,482 --> 00:42:04,383
and we kind of took it out each other
'cause when you love each other,

819
00:42:04,384 --> 00:42:06,128
those are the people you
take it out on first.

820
00:42:06,152 --> 00:42:07,888
You know what, do
your fucking job.

821
00:42:08,254 --> 00:42:11,123
Making that movie was like
watching my parents get divorced.

822
00:42:11,124 --> 00:42:14,961
We would wrap at like 3:00 in the morning,
and I would like cry walking home,

823
00:42:15,128 --> 00:42:16,730
being like, "What is this?"

824
00:42:16,930 --> 00:42:19,199
It's horrible, man.

825
00:42:19,365 --> 00:42:22,869
It's like Mom and Dad fighting all
the time. I'm gonna need counseling.

826
00:42:23,036 --> 00:42:24,671
They're busy thinking.

827
00:42:24,838 --> 00:42:26,849
I think they're working out
their information for the day

828
00:42:26,873 --> 00:42:29,009
in their heads, maybe.

829
00:42:29,275 --> 00:42:31,253
At least that's what I'm hoping that
they're doing during the silence.

830
00:42:31,277 --> 00:42:34,581
It wasn't about creativity. It
was about management styles.

831
00:42:34,681 --> 00:42:36,216
And I think that Chad,

832
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:39,318
he gets a lot of juice by
blowing things up for a second

833
00:42:39,319 --> 00:42:42,555
and then having people run
to put them back together.

834
00:42:42,723 --> 00:42:45,025
And I just don't
operate that way.

835
00:42:46,126 --> 00:42:48,528
Do you like this or
do you like that?

836
00:42:48,695 --> 00:42:52,699
Does he put anything in his...
He takes his coffee black?

837
00:42:52,866 --> 00:42:54,935
Black like his
snot. Like his soul.

838
00:42:55,135 --> 00:42:56,269
Like his soul.

839
00:42:56,469 --> 00:42:58,104
How about that.

840
00:42:58,304 --> 00:42:59,773
Is he a single
serving kinda guy?

841
00:43:00,006 --> 00:43:03,543
The irony of John Wick 1 was
Chad and Dave were really,

842
00:43:03,677 --> 00:43:05,757
really, really comfortable
with the action sequences.

843
00:43:05,912 --> 00:43:08,014
The dramatic sequences
and the acting sequences,

844
00:43:08,181 --> 00:43:10,192
they were less so, because
they'd never really done it.

845
00:43:10,216 --> 00:43:13,186
And so, it was a strange paradox
from what you usually deal with

846
00:43:13,353 --> 00:43:15,121
from first-time directors.

847
00:43:15,321 --> 00:43:17,366
Usually, first-time directors get
overwhelmed by action sequences,

848
00:43:17,390 --> 00:43:20,460
and the performance stuff comes
naturally. It was flipped on this movie.

849
00:43:20,661 --> 00:43:23,261
I think we shot inside the house
for like nine days, or seven days.

850
00:43:23,396 --> 00:43:26,042
Yeah. No, we camped out there. There
was a lot of John Wick moping around,

851
00:43:26,066 --> 00:43:28,101
and we're like, "This
is the character."

852
00:43:28,234 --> 00:43:29,736
Remember how much
we did? Yeah.

853
00:43:30,036 --> 00:43:32,705
Because he's breaking
up you two, right?

854
00:43:32,706 --> 00:43:33,907
He's breaking up your...

855
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:35,708
Dave and I were so nervous

856
00:43:35,709 --> 00:43:37,669
that they were only going
to see us as stunt guys.

857
00:43:37,778 --> 00:43:39,756
We can't focus on the action. We
have to focus about the acting,

858
00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:42,082
and the emotion, and the pain
that this man is suffering.

859
00:43:42,248 --> 00:43:46,086
So we spent nine days
of a very small budget,

860
00:43:46,252 --> 00:43:49,622
very small schedule movie
of Keanu moping around,

861
00:43:49,790 --> 00:43:52,926
of Keanu cleaning out the closet
and packing his wife's clothes up,

862
00:43:53,093 --> 00:43:55,996
and sitting there staring into
the darkness and the abyss.

863
00:43:56,196 --> 00:44:00,466
I remember like on day three, Keanu
didn't say a word for three days.

864
00:44:00,633 --> 00:44:02,168
He'd wake up,

865
00:44:02,368 --> 00:44:03,469
brush his teeth,

866
00:44:03,636 --> 00:44:04,738
look into a mirror,

867
00:44:04,905 --> 00:44:06,006
go across the floor,

868
00:44:06,206 --> 00:44:07,340
fill a dog bowl,

869
00:44:07,540 --> 00:44:08,641
say, "Come over here,"

870
00:44:08,809 --> 00:44:10,143
wake up,

871
00:44:10,310 --> 00:44:12,779
and the footage was like
mind-numbingly boring.

872
00:44:12,946 --> 00:44:14,414
And it was endless.

873
00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:16,783
You have a lot of John Wick
eating cereal by himself.

874
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:19,152
Book making, right? Remember
he did book restoration?

875
00:44:19,319 --> 00:44:22,322
I forgot that. We wanted to show
something, that he's very precise...

876
00:44:22,488 --> 00:44:23,990
Precise. Methodical.

877
00:44:24,157 --> 00:44:27,427
So we shot for like two days
of Keanu doing bookbinding.

878
00:44:27,593 --> 00:44:31,097
That's how terrified we were of
being pigeonholed as action guys.

879
00:44:31,264 --> 00:44:33,466
Oh, the kick in the head.

880
00:44:34,935 --> 00:44:37,137
I like this
reaction. I do too.

881
00:44:37,303 --> 00:44:40,540
You don't see that reaction a lot with,
you know, like that kind of spasmy thing.

882
00:44:40,741 --> 00:44:43,476
You know, you fucking vapor lock
when you're in fucking pain.

883
00:44:45,345 --> 00:44:46,745
- Oh, right, killing the dog.
- Yeah.

884
00:44:48,782 --> 00:44:50,483
Oof.

885
00:44:50,650 --> 00:44:52,962
You should have heard that test
screening the first time. Oof.

886
00:44:52,986 --> 00:44:54,554
Never won that audience back.

887
00:44:54,755 --> 00:44:56,289
Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah.

888
00:44:56,456 --> 00:44:58,191
Our first test screening...

889
00:44:58,358 --> 00:45:00,226
How'd that go? That
dog... That dog went.

890
00:45:00,426 --> 00:45:02,228
The audience went quiet,

891
00:45:02,428 --> 00:45:04,497
and people were walking out.

892
00:45:04,664 --> 00:45:07,333
The movie was still pretty
rough. It was still really long.

893
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:08,902
But yeah, it got weird.

894
00:45:09,102 --> 00:45:13,974
It is one of the most famous
principles in Hollywood

895
00:45:14,140 --> 00:45:15,541
is you never kill a dog.

896
00:45:15,708 --> 00:45:17,911
As soon as a dog is killed,

897
00:45:18,111 --> 00:45:23,016
you almost always are losing
a big chunk of the audience.

898
00:45:23,183 --> 00:45:26,152
Oh, yeah, the blood
shot. Yeah, blood shot.

899
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:29,522
The puppy crawled his way back
to his owner before he died.

900
00:45:30,857 --> 00:45:32,425
When these dailies got back,

901
00:45:32,625 --> 00:45:34,660
we actually got a
stern talking to about,

902
00:45:34,828 --> 00:45:38,564
"Oh, fuck, you guys. What are you...
like, what the fuck are you guys doing?"

903
00:45:38,731 --> 00:45:40,066
You cannot kill the dog.

904
00:45:41,067 --> 00:45:44,204
"You're doing puppy
porn, like, gore."

905
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:47,450
I'm like, "No, man, we got the baby lens
on. It's going to be really artistic."

906
00:45:47,573 --> 00:45:50,710
They're like, "The puppy's
intestines are on the floor."

907
00:45:50,877 --> 00:45:52,654
I'm like, "It's not
intestines. It's just blood."

908
00:45:52,678 --> 00:45:54,414
We had a whole argument
about that shot.

909
00:45:54,580 --> 00:45:57,750
I remember shooting
the dog's death,

910
00:45:57,918 --> 00:46:02,122
and Keanu was on the floor
crying with this stuffed beagle.

911
00:46:03,756 --> 00:46:05,036
And at that moment, you're like,

912
00:46:05,191 --> 00:46:07,627
"This is either genius or,

913
00:46:07,828 --> 00:46:09,529
like, the worst thing
I've ever made."

914
00:46:09,695 --> 00:46:11,040
We always knew we
were gonna do it.

915
00:46:11,064 --> 00:46:12,565
Oh, yeah. I mean,
it's the movie.

916
00:46:12,732 --> 00:46:14,176
There were others that kept
trying to talk us out of it,

917
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,880
but we're like, "No,
we got to kill the"...

918
00:46:16,002 --> 00:46:17,702
You got to...
Where's the movie?

919
00:46:17,703 --> 00:46:19,772
Yeah, we didn't have a
movie without the puppy.

920
00:46:20,006 --> 00:46:22,708
No, you got to kill the puppy so
you're killing the attachment.

921
00:46:22,843 --> 00:46:25,045
But I think there was
more talks about that.

922
00:46:25,211 --> 00:46:27,023
There was that and then
killing Alfie at the end.

923
00:46:27,047 --> 00:46:29,287
You can't just kill Alfie
Allen cold-blooded like we did,

924
00:46:29,415 --> 00:46:31,051
'cause that's pretty
icy fucking cold.

925
00:46:31,217 --> 00:46:34,054
Iosef, got to go. You
can't kill the puppy.

926
00:46:34,220 --> 00:46:35,588
And his wife...
Puppy's gotta go.

927
00:46:35,755 --> 00:46:37,723
And his wife has to...
We have to find out

928
00:46:37,891 --> 00:46:39,625
that his wife was
poisoned by the bad guys.

929
00:46:39,792 --> 00:46:41,394
No, the wife has to die.

930
00:46:41,561 --> 00:46:44,330
Those were the three notes we
got back from certain peoples.

931
00:46:44,530 --> 00:46:48,234
Even the night we were doing the puppy,
we knew we had something good when...

932
00:46:48,401 --> 00:46:50,682
I think because we shot that
push-in over the blood first.

933
00:46:50,736 --> 00:46:51,972
Yeah.

934
00:46:52,205 --> 00:46:53,749
And then, you're just
petting the puppy.

935
00:46:53,773 --> 00:46:54,807
Yeah.

936
00:46:54,975 --> 00:46:56,052
We're like, "That's awesome.

937
00:46:56,076 --> 00:46:57,443
That's going in the movie."

938
00:46:57,610 --> 00:46:59,530
And there was a lot of
talk behind monitors that,

939
00:46:59,645 --> 00:47:02,949
like, "Oh, no, we got to shoot
a second... a second version."

940
00:47:03,116 --> 00:47:05,118
Chad wasn't much of a
dog person back then.

941
00:47:05,285 --> 00:47:07,420
Now he's got dogs,
and he's a dog person,

942
00:47:07,587 --> 00:47:09,631
and he's embraced them, and
he's done movies with dogs,

943
00:47:09,655 --> 00:47:11,455
and he's trained them
since they were puppies,

944
00:47:11,557 --> 00:47:14,194
and they bite people in the
neck and the balls and shit.

945
00:47:14,394 --> 00:47:16,796
But he never had dogs
back in John Wick.

946
00:47:16,963 --> 00:47:18,598
Like, he wouldn't go, like,

947
00:47:18,764 --> 00:47:21,501
"Chad's gonna direct this
heartwarming movie about a dog,

948
00:47:21,667 --> 00:47:23,036
a guy and his dog."

949
00:47:23,236 --> 00:47:25,505
That would have not been
Chad's first choice.

950
00:47:25,671 --> 00:47:28,441
Which is partly why it was so
easy to kill the dog, maybe.

951
00:47:28,608 --> 00:47:31,377
He was just like, "We
just get rid of the dog,

952
00:47:31,577 --> 00:47:33,213
then I don't have
to direct a dog."

953
00:47:33,413 --> 00:47:34,480
And now it's funny.

954
00:47:34,780 --> 00:47:36,615
All there are are dogs.

955
00:47:36,616 --> 00:47:38,684
If that's the journey
that Chad's taken away,

956
00:47:38,919 --> 00:47:42,155
like he's become a dog lover, then
I'm glad we created John Wick.

957
00:47:42,288 --> 00:47:45,391
Because it's huge for me.

958
00:47:45,591 --> 00:47:48,895
There's a guy that could be
getting a bead on you here.

959
00:47:49,095 --> 00:47:50,830
Which is why you're
hauling ass...

960
00:47:50,997 --> 00:47:53,366
Okay. It's more
like, "Oh, fuck."

961
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:57,803
Sometimes people ask us, "What shot in John
Wick 1 is Dave's and what shot is yours?"

962
00:47:57,938 --> 00:48:01,141
I'm like, "I don't fucking know."
Everything was a conversation.

963
00:48:01,307 --> 00:48:03,387
He'd be setting up A camera,
I'm setting up B camera.

964
00:48:03,543 --> 00:48:06,122
It was just such an organic process.
We'd worked together so many times.

965
00:48:06,146 --> 00:48:08,790
We just knew this is what we ought to
do. We gotta get this done. Let's go.

966
00:48:08,814 --> 00:48:10,094
Let's come up with
the best idea.

967
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,023
Dave had a much more
grounded sensibility.

968
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:20,893
I was influenced more by Tolkien
and Japanese anime and manga.

969
00:48:21,061 --> 00:48:24,097
And Dave wanted to be more
grounded, gritty, emotional.

970
00:48:24,297 --> 00:48:25,498
We gotta make it painful.

971
00:48:25,665 --> 00:48:27,305
So we both saw the
movie in different ways

972
00:48:27,467 --> 00:48:29,269
and we landed in
that sweet spot.

973
00:48:29,469 --> 00:48:32,109
Especially in the time period with
all the shaky cam stuff going on.

974
00:48:32,205 --> 00:48:34,107
That's why John Wick clicked.

975
00:48:35,641 --> 00:48:39,612
Dave and Chad created that... we
called it the John Wick style,

976
00:48:39,812 --> 00:48:42,448
which was like long takes
and 30-beat fight scenes

977
00:48:42,648 --> 00:48:46,019
where you're doing like judo/jujitsu
with a gun in your hand.

978
00:48:46,186 --> 00:48:47,887
That was something
created out of necessity

979
00:48:48,054 --> 00:48:50,356
because of lack
of time and money.

980
00:48:50,523 --> 00:48:52,801
When you do the punches and kicks,
you need the coverage, right?

981
00:48:52,825 --> 00:48:54,961
You need over the shoulder.
You gotta sell the hit.

982
00:48:55,161 --> 00:48:56,801
And we just didn't
have that kind of time.

983
00:48:56,862 --> 00:48:59,265
So we all talked about, "Well,
how are we gonna do this?"

984
00:48:59,432 --> 00:49:01,434
Well, we're gonna take
judo and aikido and like...

985
00:49:01,601 --> 00:49:03,479
Wick is kind of the guy
that's going to grab you.

986
00:49:03,503 --> 00:49:05,771
If I got your collar...
Yeah, you got him.

987
00:49:05,938 --> 00:49:07,273
...it was over.
Yeah, he got you.

988
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,874
It was over.

989
00:49:09,075 --> 00:49:10,715
But that's the vibe we
wanted. It was over.

990
00:49:10,843 --> 00:49:13,945
It was just like if I got
a collar, inside, anywhere,

991
00:49:13,946 --> 00:49:17,717
if I got a collar coming... it's
just like, "We're going, bye."

992
00:49:17,883 --> 00:49:20,386
You have no choice.
You're in the machine.

993
00:49:20,553 --> 00:49:24,090
You're going down. You're
spinning. You're being twisted.

994
00:49:24,290 --> 00:49:26,702
But you had thought about using
that before you did John Wick...

995
00:49:26,726 --> 00:49:28,766
Yeah, we just never really
had the character for it.

996
00:49:29,029 --> 00:49:32,664
You kind of implemented me into
like, "Let's see if this can work."

997
00:49:32,665 --> 00:49:34,767
Yeah, well, we
had... Take actor.

998
00:49:34,934 --> 00:49:37,403
And experiment.
And experiment.

999
00:49:37,570 --> 00:49:40,010
"Oh, yeah, he'll do it. I know
that guy. He'll come to train."

1000
00:49:40,073 --> 00:49:43,576
We had the close-quarter choreography
kind of worked out with the gun stuff.

1001
00:49:43,743 --> 00:49:46,512
We just couldn't find
the test subject. Yeah.

1002
00:49:46,712 --> 00:49:49,615
Once John Wick came about, Chad
and Dave right away were like,

1003
00:49:49,815 --> 00:49:52,485
"Bring up the Safe footage.
Bring up the Safe concepts.

1004
00:49:52,652 --> 00:49:53,686
That's Wick right there."

1005
00:50:02,495 --> 00:50:04,864
Back in the day, we used
to do... well, we still do.

1006
00:50:05,065 --> 00:50:06,666
We do a lot of
Jason Statham films.

1007
00:50:06,866 --> 00:50:08,868
I remember there's
one movie called Safe.

1008
00:50:09,069 --> 00:50:11,137
And we were designing
concepts for that film.

1009
00:50:11,304 --> 00:50:17,043
And Chad challenged everybody to
combine jujitsu and judo with gun stuff.

1010
00:50:17,243 --> 00:50:19,545
And if you look back
at the Safe previses,

1011
00:50:19,745 --> 00:50:23,816
it's all the moves and all
the style of John Wick 1.

1012
00:50:27,153 --> 00:50:29,522
For gun fu, you did
the mix of airsofts

1013
00:50:29,689 --> 00:50:32,725
and use visual effects for the
muzzle flashes and blood spurts.

1014
00:50:32,925 --> 00:50:35,861
Because back in the day, we were
using blanks, real guns to shoot.

1015
00:50:36,028 --> 00:50:38,131
So you can't do close quarter
stuff. It's dangerous.

1016
00:50:38,298 --> 00:50:40,400
At a certain range,
it's still lethal.

1017
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,344
Usually it's like, once
you fire a gun, you cut.

1018
00:50:42,368 --> 00:50:44,370
And show the guy firing the gun,

1019
00:50:44,537 --> 00:50:47,083
and then you're on the reverse so
you know you're in the safe zone.

1020
00:50:47,107 --> 00:50:49,667
So we're doing shots that aren't
cut right in front of each other,

1021
00:50:49,709 --> 00:50:51,511
shooting each other point-blank.

1022
00:50:51,677 --> 00:50:53,913
When they cut it together
and put the muzzle flash

1023
00:50:54,114 --> 00:50:56,434
and the blood splatter on it,
we all were like, "Oh, shit."

1024
00:50:56,516 --> 00:50:59,095
It was cooler than anything we were
doing in any movies we were working on.

1025
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:01,521
We sent it to Chad and
he damn lost his mind.

1026
00:51:01,654 --> 00:51:02,922
And I was looking at it like,

1027
00:51:03,289 --> 00:51:04,723
"Dude, we got to get
this in a freaking movie.

1028
00:51:04,724 --> 00:51:07,093
Like, this is insane.
This is awesome."

1029
00:51:07,293 --> 00:51:09,829
What's funny is we all thought
Jason would murder that.

1030
00:51:09,995 --> 00:51:12,098
Like, he's so good at
action, that should be easy.

1031
00:51:12,298 --> 00:51:14,767
And in classic Jason style,

1032
00:51:14,967 --> 00:51:17,837
love him to death, he had
notes, he had thoughts.

1033
00:51:18,003 --> 00:51:20,482
You know, maybe he didn't want this.
Maybe it was a little too stylized.

1034
00:51:20,506 --> 00:51:22,742
I don't know what it
was, but for some reason,

1035
00:51:22,908 --> 00:51:24,610
Statham didn't gel
with the style.

1036
00:51:24,810 --> 00:51:28,614
I was kind of like, "You got
to be shitting me right now.

1037
00:51:28,814 --> 00:51:31,517
This is the coolest stuff
I've seen in so long."

1038
00:51:31,684 --> 00:51:34,154
That being said, they ended up
doing some small pieces of it.

1039
00:51:34,354 --> 00:51:37,557
If you watch Safe, there's
a little bit hand-to-hand.

1040
00:51:37,723 --> 00:51:41,394
It's the introduction of it, you know,
in that one fight in the restaurant.

1041
00:51:41,561 --> 00:51:46,031
There's just like a couple moments
where, like, you see gun fu come to life.

1042
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:49,068
But I think at that point, Chad
was like, you know, "Fuck this.

1043
00:51:49,235 --> 00:51:51,404
We're holding this
until we get our shot.

1044
00:51:51,571 --> 00:51:53,906
Like, we're not letting anyone
else see this, because..."

1045
00:51:54,073 --> 00:51:56,041
He was right. It was
gonna blow people away.

1046
00:51:56,242 --> 00:51:58,444
And I mean, we were so
excited to put it into Wick.

1047
00:51:58,611 --> 00:52:00,780
Like, we couldn't wait.

1048
00:52:00,946 --> 00:52:04,584
It's funny because even though
they're both great action icons,

1049
00:52:04,750 --> 00:52:07,320
Jason's a bad-ass
physical specimen too,

1050
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,922
it just looked different
when Reeves was doing it.

1051
00:52:22,368 --> 00:52:25,137
If you say gun fu, you
automatically think Keanu Reeves.

1052
00:52:25,305 --> 00:52:26,839
It's his style.

1053
00:52:28,908 --> 00:52:33,946
The great thing about Keanu is,
I mean, he was just such a stud.

1054
00:52:34,113 --> 00:52:38,351
He does like 98% of
all his fighting.

1055
00:52:38,551 --> 00:52:42,322
His stunt double comes in only when
there's something really sketchy,

1056
00:52:42,488 --> 00:52:45,124
like me throwing him
over the balcony.

1057
00:52:45,291 --> 00:52:48,361
He's so good. It's amazing.

1058
00:52:48,561 --> 00:52:51,197
One, you go right here. Grab.

1059
00:52:51,397 --> 00:52:53,533
I remember Chad and Dave
coming up to me saying,

1060
00:52:53,733 --> 00:52:54,834
"Daniel, pad up."

1061
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:56,335
I'm like, "What do you mean?"

1062
00:52:56,336 --> 00:52:58,070
We're doing masters, you know,

1063
00:52:58,471 --> 00:53:00,772
where you do the fight from the
beginning to the end, no cuts.

1064
00:53:00,773 --> 00:53:02,573
And I really haven't
done that in a long time.

1065
00:53:02,742 --> 00:53:04,653
And they're like, "We don't
have the time. Pad up."

1066
00:53:04,677 --> 00:53:06,212
Go, go, go, go.

1067
00:53:12,518 --> 00:53:16,822
We shoot a master, and I remember
me and Keanu's double, Jackson,

1068
00:53:16,989 --> 00:53:19,225
we were both so exhausted.

1069
00:53:22,662 --> 00:53:24,864
But it turned out to
be a really good fight.

1070
00:53:26,332 --> 00:53:27,867
We're rolling, guys.

1071
00:53:28,033 --> 00:53:30,135
I think it came out better
than we had ever thought.

1072
00:53:30,303 --> 00:53:31,513
Because you've made
it a character.

1073
00:53:31,537 --> 00:53:32,705
- Now it's like...
- Right.

1074
00:53:32,872 --> 00:53:34,392
This is where John
Wick got to be like,

1075
00:53:34,474 --> 00:53:35,641
okay, he's the gun guy.

1076
00:53:35,808 --> 00:53:37,710
Yeah. Like, holy
shit, it worked.

1077
00:53:37,877 --> 00:53:41,581
Yeah, but I mean, I think
that ties into your philosophy

1078
00:53:41,781 --> 00:53:43,749
and David Leitch's philosophy

1079
00:53:43,949 --> 00:53:48,554
coming out of the school of
the Wachowskis with the Matrix

1080
00:53:48,721 --> 00:53:51,524
was that character
drives the action.

1081
00:53:51,691 --> 00:53:53,359
The story of the action,

1082
00:53:53,793 --> 00:53:57,763
the character of the action has
to be so connected to story.

1083
00:54:03,369 --> 00:54:07,039
Last take of John Wick
principal photography.

1084
00:54:12,712 --> 00:54:16,516
All right, that's a wrap on
principal and additional photography.

1085
00:54:16,682 --> 00:54:17,717
Thank you all very much.

1086
00:54:19,552 --> 00:54:21,120
Good job...

1087
00:54:21,321 --> 00:54:23,423
Hey, Dave, you just
directed your first movie.

1088
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:24,924
What are you gonna do now?

1089
00:54:25,090 --> 00:54:27,693
Smoke crack.

1090
00:54:27,860 --> 00:54:30,262
To everybody that said
we couldn't do it.

1091
00:54:30,430 --> 00:54:33,466
We thought the hard part
was gonna be training Keanu

1092
00:54:33,666 --> 00:54:35,601
and killing it with cool action.

1093
00:54:35,768 --> 00:54:38,480
We wrapped, we were like, "Oh, my
God, we did it. We're in the clear."

1094
00:54:38,504 --> 00:54:41,040
And then there's this thing
we found out called post,

1095
00:54:41,206 --> 00:54:43,208
where you actually
have to find the movie.

1096
00:54:43,376 --> 00:54:46,245
If you want distance, you got
distance right there. Look at that.

1097
00:54:46,412 --> 00:54:49,482
I think post was where I had
the biggest learning curve,

1098
00:54:49,682 --> 00:54:52,051
because you don't really do
it as a second-unit director.

1099
00:54:56,055 --> 00:54:58,958
And then cut to the
fast outside like...

1100
00:54:59,124 --> 00:55:01,561
We cut the assembly and we
thought, "Oh my God, we did it."

1101
00:55:01,727 --> 00:55:04,764
We watched the assembly and we're
like, "What the fuck? This is terrible.

1102
00:55:04,930 --> 00:55:06,932
Like, this is... We're
gonna never work again."

1103
00:55:07,099 --> 00:55:09,511
We showed it to some friends and
family, and they're just going, "Yeah."

1104
00:55:09,535 --> 00:55:11,737
Tapping us on the shoulder,
"Good job, guys. Yeah, yeah.

1105
00:55:11,904 --> 00:55:13,172
You did your first movie."

1106
00:55:13,373 --> 00:55:15,074
I think that devastated
them. It was like,

1107
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:17,477
"Guys, it's too long. It's
too long. It's too long."

1108
00:55:17,677 --> 00:55:21,781
The first cut of John Wick, he
was moping around his house.

1109
00:55:21,947 --> 00:55:23,983
It was like a
Swedish noir movie.

1110
00:55:24,149 --> 00:55:27,319
It was very blue. He's
crying, making coffee.

1111
00:55:27,487 --> 00:55:30,022
And you're like,
"Okay. I don't..."

1112
00:55:30,222 --> 00:55:33,234
I think people are... They're gonna wanna
know when he's gonna start killing people.

1113
00:55:33,258 --> 00:55:35,138
We were trying to hold
on to the script so tight

1114
00:55:35,260 --> 00:55:37,740
that I think we fought everybody
for the first four, five weeks.

1115
00:55:37,797 --> 00:55:40,231
It's sometimes harder when you're like,
"No, but this is the way I saw it,

1116
00:55:40,232 --> 00:55:43,703
and I just need to see it that way until
I don't see it that way. Then I can..."

1117
00:55:43,903 --> 00:55:46,338
You know, and I'm like, I've
already forgotten about that way

1118
00:55:46,506 --> 00:55:47,866
'cause this way is
already so cool.

1119
00:55:48,007 --> 00:55:49,847
Basil, he got mad at us
for being so depressed.

1120
00:55:50,009 --> 00:55:53,846
He's like, "What the fuck you
guys doing? Like, get to work."

1121
00:55:54,013 --> 00:55:56,115
We're like, "Well, it's
terrible. We failed."

1122
00:55:56,281 --> 00:55:57,561
He's like, "That's
your assembly.

1123
00:55:57,683 --> 00:55:59,403
Like, now you gonna go
make the movie, guys.

1124
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:02,722
Like, you got 20 weeks.
You know, hurry up. Go."

1125
00:56:02,922 --> 00:56:05,558
We're like, "I guess
this is directing, huh?"

1126
00:56:05,758 --> 00:56:08,661
You know, they had to figure
out the film in the cut,

1127
00:56:08,828 --> 00:56:11,640
and then the battles that you have to
fight with the show business part of it.

1128
00:56:11,664 --> 00:56:13,575
You know, what do other
people think of the movie

1129
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:15,167
that you thought you made?

1130
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:17,269
"There's too much action."
"Not enough action."

1131
00:56:17,637 --> 00:56:20,572
"You can't really kill the dog."
"Wait, what? What's the ending?"

1132
00:56:20,573 --> 00:56:23,042
"The ending doesn't work."
Gotta redo it, you know.

1133
00:56:23,208 --> 00:56:28,848
And I'm sure they had a lot of, you
know, "Is this fucking terrible?"

1134
00:56:29,014 --> 00:56:31,817
We kind of found the
movie very, very slowly.

1135
00:56:31,984 --> 00:56:33,853
It was very slow. But
yeah, we were panicked.

1136
00:56:34,019 --> 00:56:36,419
You know, at the time, remember,
it was all about fast editing

1137
00:56:36,556 --> 00:56:39,559
and shaky cam and all that stuff. And
we didn't have a single shaky cam.

1138
00:56:39,725 --> 00:56:43,062
Our stuff was very
slow and with no VFX.

1139
00:56:43,228 --> 00:56:44,864
Yeah, we thought the
movie was terrible.

1140
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:46,566
Everybody but Keanu.

1141
00:56:46,732 --> 00:56:48,376
Keanu and Basil were just
like, "No, just keep hammering.

1142
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,978
Keep going. We'll see
you in a couple weeks."

1143
00:56:50,002 --> 00:56:51,480
Part of it is like
your baby, you know?

1144
00:56:51,504 --> 00:56:52,938
It's the art you created

1145
00:56:53,305 --> 00:56:55,139
and you're really into
it and you're excited.

1146
00:56:55,140 --> 00:56:58,410
But then you're feeling
like self-conscious about,

1147
00:56:58,578 --> 00:57:01,914
"Is this moment gonna be cheesy?
And are people gonna like it?"

1148
00:57:02,081 --> 00:57:05,217
And I know I like it, but I've
got to put it out in the world.

1149
00:57:05,384 --> 00:57:09,789
And it's all of that confidence
and insecurity colliding.

1150
00:57:09,989 --> 00:57:12,357
I gotta believe in myself,
but I also gotta deliver this

1151
00:57:12,525 --> 00:57:13,959
to an audience and
it's gotta work.

1152
00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:16,128
We previewed the movie
for the first time.

1153
00:57:16,295 --> 00:57:18,455
And the audience didn't know
what to make of the movie.

1154
00:57:18,664 --> 00:57:22,266
They're like, "What is this? It's
like Keanu depressed and crying.

1155
00:57:22,267 --> 00:57:25,304
And what is happening here? It's
supposed to be an action movie."

1156
00:57:25,505 --> 00:57:27,649
And I'll never forget, it
was the most important moment

1157
00:57:27,673 --> 00:57:29,408
in the entire Wick
franchise history

1158
00:57:29,742 --> 00:57:32,644
where Michael Nyqvist calls John
Leguizamo... Aurelio speaking.

1159
00:57:32,645 --> 00:57:34,614
...and says... I heard
you struck my son.

1160
00:57:34,814 --> 00:57:36,381
And John says...
Yes, sir, I did.

1161
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:38,551
Because he stole
John Wick's car, sir,

1162
00:57:38,718 --> 00:57:41,787
and, uh, killed his dog.

1163
00:57:41,954 --> 00:57:43,656
And Michael Nyqvist just goes...

1164
00:57:43,756 --> 00:57:45,290
Oh.

1165
00:57:45,725 --> 00:57:48,727
- And the entire audience laughed.
- Okay, we have them.

1166
00:57:48,728 --> 00:57:53,933
It's the greatest performance ever
in a movie where someone says...

1167
00:57:54,099 --> 00:57:55,300
Oh.

1168
00:57:55,467 --> 00:57:58,103
And I realized, okay,
they finally got it.

1169
00:57:58,270 --> 00:58:01,073
We're supposed to have
fun. This movie is crazy.

1170
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,142
And from that moment
on, it played great.

1171
00:58:03,308 --> 00:58:04,777
I remember the first screening,

1172
00:58:04,944 --> 00:58:06,922
they give you these little
questionnaires to fill out.

1173
00:58:06,946 --> 00:58:08,648
And the first question was like,

1174
00:58:08,814 --> 00:58:11,584
"Do you think the killing of the
dog justifies all this death?"

1175
00:58:11,751 --> 00:58:13,252
And we divided it
up by demographics.

1176
00:58:13,418 --> 00:58:15,955
And I remember the men were
only on board at about 60%.

1177
00:58:16,121 --> 00:58:20,526
But like 98% of the women
were like, "Kill 'em all."

1178
00:58:20,726 --> 00:58:23,262
Because they knew it
was not about a dog.

1179
00:58:31,604 --> 00:58:32,872
We had a really cool movie.

1180
00:58:33,072 --> 00:58:34,832
We had a movie that I
think we were all like,

1181
00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:37,176
"Boy, there's like a world
there that we never realized."

1182
00:58:37,342 --> 00:58:39,545
And Ian McShane and Lance
Reddick really popped.

1183
00:58:39,745 --> 00:58:42,381
And Willem Dafoe was just
cool. We pulled it off.

1184
00:58:42,582 --> 00:58:45,484
And we should have a number
of domestic studio offers

1185
00:58:45,585 --> 00:58:47,486
because this movie really works.

1186
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:53,391
And then, we started to screen it for
the studios, and everybody passed.

1187
00:58:53,392 --> 00:58:56,461
- Literally everybody passed.
- We didn't sell it? Like, nobody wants it?

1188
00:58:56,629 --> 00:59:01,734
Like, this is better than so many
movies that I've been asked to fix.

1189
00:59:01,934 --> 00:59:03,168
It was heartbreaking.

1190
00:59:03,335 --> 00:59:04,870
I misread the marketplace,

1191
00:59:05,037 --> 00:59:07,206
and I put these people
in a really tough spot

1192
00:59:07,372 --> 00:59:09,541
because I advocated
making this movie

1193
00:59:09,709 --> 00:59:13,178
and put this movie together
that no one will ever see.

1194
00:59:13,345 --> 00:59:16,381
But someone at Lionsgate
said, "You know what? Fuck it.

1195
00:59:16,548 --> 00:59:18,751
We might as well
take the domestic

1196
00:59:18,951 --> 00:59:21,921
because we've already got the
territories for international."

1197
00:59:22,121 --> 00:59:24,700
There was a separation between church
and state at Lionsgate at the time.

1198
00:59:24,724 --> 00:59:26,644
There was a domestic piece
and the foreign piece.

1199
00:59:26,692 --> 00:59:30,229
Lionsgate had only
sold the film foreign.

1200
00:59:30,395 --> 00:59:34,099
And so Lionsgate bought it, but
for no MG, for zero dollars,

1201
00:59:34,299 --> 00:59:36,401
which is, you know,
not a great deal.

1202
00:59:36,535 --> 00:59:38,537
I'm like, "Okay, that's
better than nothing."

1203
00:59:38,938 --> 00:59:41,072
They're not believing in it. They're
not guaranteeing us theaters.

1204
00:59:41,073 --> 00:59:44,009
But then out of nowhere, their head
of marketing sends this trailer

1205
00:59:44,176 --> 00:59:45,611
that is awesome.

1206
00:59:48,013 --> 00:59:49,081
No!

1207
00:59:50,215 --> 00:59:51,815
And he's like, "I
could sell this thing."

1208
00:59:51,917 --> 00:59:54,219
This feels like a
Lionsgate movie.

1209
00:59:54,386 --> 00:59:55,387
You working again?

1210
00:59:55,554 --> 00:59:57,556
No, just sorting some stuff out.

1211
00:59:57,757 --> 00:59:59,735
Let's figure out how to do this movie,
and we are gonna do a wide release.

1212
00:59:59,759 --> 01:00:01,960
And then something else happened
which was like a miracle,

1213
01:00:01,961 --> 01:00:05,297
but there was a slot open in
October. A movie fell out.

1214
01:00:05,497 --> 01:00:08,033
There was this wide-release
action movie called Kingsman,

1215
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:13,438
and for whatever reason, they have
moved the date to next spring.

1216
01:00:13,605 --> 01:00:16,642
There's this opening here
in October. Let's go for it.

1217
01:00:16,842 --> 01:00:18,410
Then we were like, "Okay, well,

1218
01:00:18,577 --> 01:00:21,814
we need to somehow let
people know about this movie

1219
01:00:22,014 --> 01:00:23,574
that's about to come
out in two months."

1220
01:00:23,716 --> 01:00:25,596
And so, the marketing
team says, "You know what?

1221
01:00:25,685 --> 01:00:29,889
We could premiere it at the Fantastic
Fest Film Festival in Austin,

1222
01:00:30,055 --> 01:00:34,293
and that would be like a week or
two before our opening weekend."

1223
01:00:34,459 --> 01:00:36,271
We've worked on so many
big action movies before,

1224
01:00:36,295 --> 01:00:38,597
and we've mentored under
a lot of great directors.

1225
01:00:38,764 --> 01:00:41,834
And it's been... It's really
incredible to get a chance to,

1226
01:00:42,034 --> 01:00:45,437
like, show people what we can do
storytelling-wise and action-wise.

1227
01:00:47,873 --> 01:00:50,242
We show the movie, blow
the roof off the place.

1228
01:00:50,409 --> 01:00:52,577
People freak out.
Twitter-space goes nuts.

1229
01:00:52,745 --> 01:00:55,280
Fanboys went apeshit
for it. They love it.

1230
01:00:55,447 --> 01:00:57,750
Then all of a sudden,
reviews start coming in.

1231
01:00:57,917 --> 01:01:00,686
Reviews are fantastic.
Everyone's saying,

1232
01:01:00,886 --> 01:01:05,590
"This is not just a typical
action movie. This is inspired."

1233
01:01:07,092 --> 01:01:11,697
I was more surprised that nobody
wanted it in that buyer screening

1234
01:01:11,897 --> 01:01:14,800
than I was when we showed
it for the fanboys,

1235
01:01:14,967 --> 01:01:18,370
who I kind of deep down knew would
like it because I'm one of them.

1236
01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:22,007
And so, one minute, we didn't even
really have a theatrical release.

1237
01:01:22,174 --> 01:01:24,509
It was gonna just go
straight to video.

1238
01:01:24,676 --> 01:01:27,612
And the next minute, it's like
1,200 screens. It's pretty awesome.

1239
01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:30,850
It was a huge win
for all of us, huge.

1240
01:01:31,016 --> 01:01:34,186
But there was one thing about that
first movie that I was so happy for.

1241
01:01:34,353 --> 01:01:37,156
It reminded the audience
why they love Keanu.

1242
01:01:37,322 --> 01:01:39,424
And it reminded them
that he was a movie star.

1243
01:01:39,624 --> 01:01:41,660
People keep asking if I'm back.

1244
01:01:43,662 --> 01:01:46,365
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.

1245
01:01:46,531 --> 01:01:49,134
And now, you have an
opportunity for a sequel.

1246
01:01:49,334 --> 01:01:54,373
But if we make John Wick 2
and it comes out in six years,

1247
01:01:54,539 --> 01:01:58,377
it doesn't have the same
value in the audience.

1248
01:01:58,543 --> 01:02:03,182
I knew at this moment in
time, we cannot slow down

1249
01:02:03,382 --> 01:02:05,684
with the idea of if we're
making a John Wick 2.

1250
01:02:05,851 --> 01:02:07,753
We couldn't come
up with an idea,

1251
01:02:07,953 --> 01:02:11,556
and Chad and I were attached
to this other project

1252
01:02:11,723 --> 01:02:13,258
that I was really
falling in love with,

1253
01:02:13,458 --> 01:02:16,594
The Coldest City, which is
now called Atomic Blonde.

1254
01:02:16,595 --> 01:02:18,663
I thought we could
do it first together.

1255
01:02:19,164 --> 01:02:22,100
And I don't know, Chad felt like
he really wanted to do Wick 2 next.

1256
01:02:22,101 --> 01:02:25,470
And part of me was like,
I want to do Wick 2.

1257
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:29,909
But I know there's nobody they
could hire that could do Wick 2.

1258
01:02:30,075 --> 01:02:33,913
We just... It was such a unique
thing that we'd created together.

1259
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:36,448
It was either Chad
or me or nobody.

1260
01:02:36,681 --> 01:02:40,052
Like, who are they gonna hire to do Wick?
And I'm like, we have time to do Wick.

1261
01:02:40,185 --> 01:02:42,121
This has Charlize.
It's ready to go.

1262
01:02:42,321 --> 01:02:45,357
And we can go make another
movie, you know, and come back

1263
01:02:45,557 --> 01:02:48,060
and make Wick 2 when
we have a great idea.

1264
01:02:48,227 --> 01:02:53,098
And he was like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah," for a
while. And then he started to get cold feet.

1265
01:02:53,298 --> 01:02:55,418
And I think he really wanted
to stay in the Wick world.

1266
01:02:55,567 --> 01:02:57,636
And he... And although
we didn't have a script,

1267
01:02:57,837 --> 01:03:00,605
he's like, I think he really
wanted me to stay, too.

1268
01:03:00,772 --> 01:03:03,151
I think Dave wanted to direct on his
own. We all want to direct on our own.

1269
01:03:03,175 --> 01:03:05,077
That's directing. We all
want to be on our own.

1270
01:03:05,244 --> 01:03:07,722
The co-directing thing, if we did
three films together like that,

1271
01:03:07,746 --> 01:03:09,657
yeah, we would have done three
films together like that.

1272
01:03:09,681 --> 01:03:11,650
Long and short of it,
I just went to Chad,

1273
01:03:11,851 --> 01:03:15,287
and I said, "I want to
direct Coldest City."

1274
01:03:15,454 --> 01:03:18,790
Um, and he's like, "Keanu's got a
window. I'm doing this at the same time.

1275
01:03:18,991 --> 01:03:22,127
So, you got to choose. And
I'm like, "Coldest City."

1276
01:03:22,294 --> 01:03:25,064
He was just like, "What?
You're gonna do that?

1277
01:03:25,230 --> 01:03:27,870
You're gonna leave our franchise
behind?" I think he felt like that.

1278
01:03:28,033 --> 01:03:31,303
I think he probably
said those words.

1279
01:03:31,470 --> 01:03:35,140
It was a big blow. It was...
It was like, oh, my God.

1280
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,976
At the time, I was
fucking furious.

1281
01:03:37,409 --> 01:03:40,644
I was like, "Are you out of your
mind? Like, this is a franchise.

1282
01:03:40,645 --> 01:03:42,924
Like, we're the luckiest people
in the world. What are you doing?"

1283
01:03:42,948 --> 01:03:44,316
It was very dramatic.

1284
01:03:44,649 --> 01:03:47,518
And that was the straw.
Like, that was like, okay.

1285
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:50,956
To me, it sort of felt like people
became Team Dave or Team Chad.

1286
01:03:51,123 --> 01:03:53,525
It's not like Chad ever
said, "Don't work with Dave."

1287
01:03:53,725 --> 01:03:57,129
Dave was still a very integral
part of who we all were,

1288
01:03:57,296 --> 01:04:00,499
'cause to us, he was Dave, no
matter what he was to Chad.

1289
01:04:00,665 --> 01:04:03,702
When he left, it was more just
like, "Oh, man, I miss Uncle Dave.

1290
01:04:05,004 --> 01:04:06,538
He was the cool one."

1291
01:04:06,738 --> 01:04:08,116
So, yeah, you feel
a little bit like,

1292
01:04:08,140 --> 01:04:09,885
"Is it me? Is it them?
Is it that?" You know.

1293
01:04:09,909 --> 01:04:11,643
It felt like I was an asshole.

1294
01:04:11,810 --> 01:04:16,348
Like, you know, of course. Like,
no one just leaves for no reason.

1295
01:04:16,515 --> 01:04:19,684
Your ego says it's them, but
hopefully your brain says it's you.

1296
01:04:19,851 --> 01:04:21,811
You kind of... Maybe it's
something in the middle.

1297
01:04:21,921 --> 01:04:23,798
Up to that point, they just
went their separate ways.

1298
01:04:23,822 --> 01:04:26,691
They ran a business together,
and they were very close friends.

1299
01:04:26,858 --> 01:04:31,663
But being in the same creative cockpit,
I think it was too much for Dave,

1300
01:04:31,830 --> 01:04:34,633
and I think Dave was like, "I
want to go do my own shit."

1301
01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:38,337
That made sense to me, you know?

1302
01:04:38,503 --> 01:04:41,706
I never had, like, "Oh,
Dave's not gonna do it?"

1303
01:04:41,873 --> 01:04:45,077
That was like, "Oh, yeah,
right. You're both directors,

1304
01:04:45,277 --> 01:04:50,215
and one's gonna go do that, and
another one's gonna do this."

1305
01:04:50,382 --> 01:04:54,186
I was just glad Chad
said, "Yeah, let's do it."

1306
01:04:54,353 --> 01:04:57,656
'Cause if he hadn't have said that, I
don't know what would have happened.

1307
01:04:58,457 --> 01:04:59,524
I don't know.

1308
01:04:59,724 --> 01:05:01,044
I know you called
for John Wick 2.

1309
01:05:01,193 --> 01:05:02,494
"Do you want to do it?"

1310
01:05:02,661 --> 01:05:04,229
I'm like, "What
are you thinking?"

1311
01:05:04,396 --> 01:05:05,840
And he's like, "Look, all I
know is we just got to know

1312
01:05:05,864 --> 01:05:07,599
- why we're gonna do it again."
- Yeah.

1313
01:05:07,799 --> 01:05:09,777
But we didn't have a script.
We didn't have any ideas.

1314
01:05:09,801 --> 01:05:13,172
We really didn't know why
the first movie worked.

1315
01:05:13,338 --> 01:05:15,941
I know it sounds dopey to say,
but it's not a science, right?

1316
01:05:16,141 --> 01:05:17,376
They came back and said,

1317
01:05:17,542 --> 01:05:19,378
"So you guys think
you're pretty clever.

1318
01:05:19,711 --> 01:05:21,512
Let's see what you got for
John Wick 2." I know, right?

1319
01:05:21,513 --> 01:05:23,515
Usually, when people
talked about John Wick 1,

1320
01:05:23,682 --> 01:05:26,185
they were like, "Yeah, the dog.
I mean, geez, that was great."

1321
01:05:26,351 --> 01:05:27,895
And we're like, "We don't
have a dog anymore."

1322
01:05:27,919 --> 01:05:29,497
What are you gonna do? You
gonna kill the dog again?

1323
01:05:29,521 --> 01:05:31,423
- Kill a cat?
- Kill the parakeet?

1324
01:05:31,590 --> 01:05:34,035
- What are we doing?
- It would've been laughable if we did it again.

1325
01:05:34,059 --> 01:05:36,699
And so, we're like, "Well, what...
Fuck. What are we gonna do here?"

1326
01:05:36,761 --> 01:05:38,897
And so, creatively,
it was a big challenge

1327
01:05:39,098 --> 01:05:42,867
about how do we emotionally connect
the audience to what's going on.

1328
01:05:43,002 --> 01:05:45,404
We kind of killed
ourselves on the second one

1329
01:05:45,604 --> 01:05:49,274
because we didn't want it to
be John Wick 1 and 2 and done.

1330
01:05:49,441 --> 01:05:53,912
When you think of franchises that get to 3
and 4, beyond, they did the sequel right.

1331
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:57,716
A movie is not a franchise
until you've made a second movie

1332
01:05:57,882 --> 01:06:00,785
and the second
movie worked, right?

1333
01:06:00,952 --> 01:06:04,556
Once you have two movies work,
now you have a franchise.

1334
01:06:04,723 --> 01:06:06,225
That was probably
the most stressful.

1335
01:06:06,391 --> 01:06:09,728
It was like, "Did we get
lucky or are we good?"

1336
01:06:09,894 --> 01:06:13,165
We went through, I want
to say a hundred ideas.

1337
01:06:13,365 --> 01:06:17,002
Massive universe builds,
Nigerian mob, the triad,

1338
01:06:17,202 --> 01:06:19,004
any number of iterations.

1339
01:06:19,204 --> 01:06:22,107
It's not like we talk about it,
hand the script off to a writer,

1340
01:06:22,274 --> 01:06:25,077
and then, "See you in six months."
Like, Keanu's writing is like,

1341
01:06:25,244 --> 01:06:29,114
out of the blue he'll text me a
scene, and then I'll have a set piece.

1342
01:06:29,281 --> 01:06:31,059
He'll text me, "I was
thinking, John Wick should"...

1343
01:06:31,083 --> 01:06:32,917
And it's like two
pages of dialogue.

1344
01:06:33,085 --> 01:06:35,263
We don't know where to put it
yet, but we know it's a scene.

1345
01:06:35,287 --> 01:06:37,256
You know, I write for Winston.

1346
01:06:37,422 --> 01:06:40,092
I write for the Bowery King.

1347
01:06:40,259 --> 01:06:43,179
I write for John. I'll write scenes.
You know, I'll send pitches of scenes.

1348
01:06:43,262 --> 01:06:46,465
Full scenes. But they all have, like,
"We want this to say, the theme is this."

1349
01:06:46,631 --> 01:06:48,309
Yeah. Right. "The scene
should be about this."

1350
01:06:48,333 --> 01:06:49,968
And then, how do we get there?

1351
01:06:50,135 --> 01:06:52,204
It comes together in
the most haphazard way,

1352
01:06:52,404 --> 01:06:54,273
and it's kind of like
that for like six months.

1353
01:06:54,439 --> 01:06:56,208
Just, "We don't
know! We don't know!"

1354
01:06:56,408 --> 01:06:59,111
For the first one, it was just a
handful of people in the trenches.

1355
01:06:59,278 --> 01:07:02,981
And the second one, it was a thousand
people in the command center.

1356
01:07:03,148 --> 01:07:05,984
And the third one, you're
just like, what in the hell?

1357
01:07:06,185 --> 01:07:08,820
But that was the hardest job
I've ever had, was John Wick 2.

1358
01:07:08,987 --> 01:07:15,227
No one gets out and comes
back without repercussions.

1359
01:07:16,795 --> 01:07:19,231
There were two things that broke
the dam on the development.

1360
01:07:19,431 --> 01:07:21,733
One was the marker, and
then the idea of, like,

1361
01:07:21,933 --> 01:07:23,202
we wanted to go to Rome.

1362
01:07:26,171 --> 01:07:27,971
I remember we talked a
couple of times, going,

1363
01:07:28,107 --> 01:07:29,750
"What if there's a
Continental in every city?"

1364
01:07:29,774 --> 01:07:31,252
I said, "Where do you want
to go?" And you're like,

1365
01:07:31,276 --> 01:07:32,787
"Where's one of the
old... What's cool?"

1366
01:07:32,811 --> 01:07:34,813
Rome. Then we're like,

1367
01:07:34,979 --> 01:07:36,824
well, how does he get called back
in? Well, he's got to have a marker.

1368
01:07:36,848 --> 01:07:38,517
Somebody... I think...

1369
01:07:38,683 --> 01:07:39,918
Marker, I think, was Derek...

1370
01:07:40,119 --> 01:07:42,221
Derek? No, Derek came
up with the marker.

1371
01:07:42,387 --> 01:07:45,587
And then, Derek and I sat down and went,
well, what if the marker is like a check?

1372
01:07:45,690 --> 01:07:48,527
Yeah. You can buy something.
You trade it with it.

1373
01:07:48,693 --> 01:07:54,065
If you don't do this, you
know the consequences.

1374
01:07:54,233 --> 01:07:56,768
I'm not that guy anymore.

1375
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:02,374
You are always that guy, John.

1376
01:08:03,542 --> 01:08:06,010
You give somebody a marker,
you have to honor it.

1377
01:08:06,178 --> 01:08:09,013
Otherwise, you risk
being on the open market.

1378
01:08:09,181 --> 01:08:10,849
It's a whole arcane
world of its own.

1379
01:08:11,015 --> 01:08:12,384
Market.

1380
01:08:12,551 --> 01:08:14,853
It's wonderful bullshit,
you know? Wonderful.

1381
01:08:17,021 --> 01:08:19,724
We're kind of all under the table
in this weird, twisted world.

1382
01:08:19,891 --> 01:08:22,461
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like
the development of it, right?

1383
01:08:22,661 --> 01:08:25,697
I mean, the high table was
introduced in the second one as well.

1384
01:08:25,864 --> 01:08:28,367
Number two is where we really
kind of found our feet, I think.

1385
01:08:28,533 --> 01:08:30,135
Yeah. With the whole world.

1386
01:08:30,335 --> 01:08:32,271
The John Wick world
that it would become.

1387
01:08:32,437 --> 01:08:35,474
When you're trying to do new
or fresh or sell an idea,

1388
01:08:35,674 --> 01:08:37,242
a picture's worth
a thousand words.

1389
01:08:37,409 --> 01:08:40,279
So I will usually storyboard a
scene before I write a scene.

1390
01:08:40,412 --> 01:08:42,080
The thing about
working with Chad,

1391
01:08:42,481 --> 01:08:44,282
it's like working on a college
film with your buddies,

1392
01:08:44,283 --> 01:08:45,683
and you guys spend
most of your time

1393
01:08:45,917 --> 01:08:47,485
watching kung fu movies
and anime together.

1394
01:08:47,486 --> 01:08:49,721
And all of a sudden,
you gotta do a project.

1395
01:08:49,888 --> 01:08:52,924
So that's kind of how it was 'cause we
would geek out about the same things.

1396
01:08:53,091 --> 01:08:55,727
Todd is part of my
inner circle creatively.

1397
01:08:55,894 --> 01:08:58,663
He's someone I like to riff
with, not just about visuals,

1398
01:08:58,863 --> 01:09:00,899
but about story
arcs, characters.

1399
01:09:01,065 --> 01:09:05,504
On top of that, he's incredibly gifted
with a great eye, with perspective.

1400
01:09:05,704 --> 01:09:09,016
They throw some ideas at me. I throw some
back at them or bounce them off the writer,

1401
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,476
take those ideas, put
those in the script.

1402
01:09:11,643 --> 01:09:13,945
I'll tweak, he'll tweak, go
back and around and around

1403
01:09:14,112 --> 01:09:16,524
and around and around. And it
won't stop till the day we shoot.

1404
01:09:16,548 --> 01:09:20,151
It helps everyone's imagination see
the scale of what you're trying to do,

1405
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:22,454
the depth, the color,
the pattern, the framing.

1406
01:09:22,621 --> 01:09:25,990
It was always about getting into
the psychology of John Wick,

1407
01:09:26,157 --> 01:09:29,861
what kind of character he is, what
visually signifies who this guy is

1408
01:09:30,061 --> 01:09:31,138
and what makes him different.

1409
01:09:31,162 --> 01:09:32,997
This is very much noir

1410
01:09:33,164 --> 01:09:36,301
filtered through kind of
a digital MTV aesthetic.

1411
01:09:36,468 --> 01:09:38,413
We kind of made the decision,
like, what do we love?

1412
01:09:38,437 --> 01:09:40,281
And we wrote it up on
the... "We love wuxia films.

1413
01:09:40,305 --> 01:09:42,541
We love chambara films.
We love Westerns.

1414
01:09:42,741 --> 01:09:44,476
We love John Ford.
We love Sergio Leone.

1415
01:09:44,643 --> 01:09:46,611
We love Bernardo Bertolucci.
We love Tarkovsky.

1416
01:09:46,778 --> 01:09:51,015
We love Wong Kar-Wai. We love Zhang
Yimou, you know, Akira Kurosawa.

1417
01:09:51,182 --> 01:09:52,517
We love Steven Spielberg."

1418
01:09:52,684 --> 01:09:55,186
All these great directors
of action at the time,

1419
01:09:55,354 --> 01:09:58,189
or storytelling, and we
just went, "Well, fuck it.

1420
01:09:58,357 --> 01:10:00,037
We're just gonna combine
everything we love

1421
01:10:00,158 --> 01:10:01,726
and build our own franchise."

1422
01:10:01,926 --> 01:10:03,738
I think one of the best
things about John Wick is

1423
01:10:03,762 --> 01:10:05,230
it wasn't an
existing IP already.

1424
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:08,833
Yeah. You know, so,
there was no rules.

1425
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,235
Yeah. We could make...

1426
01:10:10,435 --> 01:10:11,779
We could steer John
Wick wherever we wanted.

1427
01:10:11,803 --> 01:10:13,204
We could do whatever we wanted.

1428
01:10:13,372 --> 01:10:15,139
We're like, I don't
know, is he that guy?

1429
01:10:15,307 --> 01:10:16,984
Sure, he's that guy. He loves
Mustangs. He's that guy.

1430
01:10:17,008 --> 01:10:19,177
Is he this guy? Does he
like... Ah, he's that guy.

1431
01:10:19,344 --> 01:10:21,513
Like, he speaks all
these languages.

1432
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,658
It's like every movie we could
reinvent him a little bit.

1433
01:10:23,682 --> 01:10:24,983
I know, I love it.

1434
01:10:25,317 --> 01:10:28,720
Ready, and three,
two, one. Action!

1435
01:10:31,222 --> 01:10:33,725
All the Wick movies are very,
very difficult to shoot.

1436
01:10:33,892 --> 01:10:35,827
None of them are easy, at all.

1437
01:10:35,994 --> 01:10:37,562
Fuck.

1438
01:10:37,796 --> 01:10:40,098
But 2 was hard, but I
think we were all like,

1439
01:10:40,231 --> 01:10:42,443
"Do you believe this shit? We're
here again. This is incredible."

1440
01:10:42,467 --> 01:10:43,535
John Wick: Chapter 2.

1441
01:10:43,702 --> 01:10:44,836
Like he never left.

1442
01:10:45,003 --> 01:10:47,272
And Keanu was just so happy.

1443
01:10:47,472 --> 01:10:50,632
He starts working out and training four
or five months before he starts shooting.

1444
01:10:50,709 --> 01:10:52,544
And I don't mean like
every couple of days.

1445
01:10:52,711 --> 01:10:55,514
I mean like five, six days a week.
It's a full-time job for him.

1446
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,882
But for Keanu, it's
where he's the happiest.

1447
01:10:58,049 --> 01:10:59,284
My bad.

1448
01:10:59,484 --> 01:11:00,919
Good take, good take, good take.

1449
01:11:01,653 --> 01:11:02,920
Going again.

1450
01:11:02,921 --> 01:11:04,255
I think you'd like to have,

1451
01:11:04,589 --> 01:11:06,066
I mean, I like it too
when John Wick suffers,

1452
01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:08,259
but I think you like it
when Reeves suffers too.

1453
01:11:08,427 --> 01:11:09,594
Um...

1454
01:11:09,761 --> 01:11:10,962
Not gonna say no.

1455
01:11:13,332 --> 01:11:17,802
When you see Keanu in pain on
screen, it's probably for real.

1456
01:11:18,002 --> 01:11:19,237
Bad knee.

1457
01:11:19,904 --> 01:11:21,039
Bad knee.

1458
01:11:21,205 --> 01:11:22,907
His knee doesn't work,

1459
01:11:23,074 --> 01:11:25,644
his right shoulder doesn't
work, and his neck has a fusion.

1460
01:11:25,844 --> 01:11:29,448
So when you see John Wick
limping, that's Keanu limping.

1461
01:11:32,751 --> 01:11:34,553
Chad told Keanu early on,

1462
01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:36,888
"I'm gonna push you
past your comfort zone."

1463
01:11:37,055 --> 01:11:38,490
And Keanu was like, "Do it."

1464
01:11:38,690 --> 01:11:41,259
Now on 1 and 2, it
was kind of healthy.

1465
01:11:41,460 --> 01:11:43,662
On 3 and 4, it was becoming
like almost barbaric.

1466
01:11:43,895 --> 01:11:48,800
But Keanu would never ever, ever,
ever, ever in a million years tap out.

1467
01:11:50,268 --> 01:11:54,072
Keanu's work ethic
and training regimen

1468
01:11:54,238 --> 01:11:57,976
that he wants to do for these
movies was just really impressive.

1469
01:11:58,142 --> 01:12:00,011
First thing you see
Keanu walk on set.

1470
01:12:00,211 --> 01:12:02,347
He can barely move.
He's got his head down.

1471
01:12:02,581 --> 01:12:07,318
He just looks like he's been beat to shit
for the last two months because he has.

1472
01:12:07,452 --> 01:12:13,358
Um, I guess we can start
here. And then there.

1473
01:12:13,558 --> 01:12:15,360
And then we add, this is fun.

1474
01:12:16,294 --> 01:12:17,996
That one's not bad.

1475
01:12:18,162 --> 01:12:20,131
Got a little rug burn.
Those carpet burns?

1476
01:12:20,298 --> 01:12:21,933
Yeah. You already got the job.

1477
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:23,500
Right there, got a
little bit there.

1478
01:12:23,602 --> 01:12:25,370
Action star.

1479
01:12:26,838 --> 01:12:27,939
John Wick.

1480
01:12:28,139 --> 01:12:29,474
For Wick 1,

1481
01:12:29,641 --> 01:12:32,010
it was really kind of
starting from ground zero.

1482
01:12:32,176 --> 01:12:33,211
Building up from nothing.

1483
01:12:36,347 --> 01:12:38,550
It wasn't gonna be the
typical punch-kick.

1484
01:12:38,750 --> 01:12:41,886
It was gonna be more
gritty, hard-style, messy.

1485
01:12:43,321 --> 01:12:45,657
So, we had to kind of
beat on him a little bit.

1486
01:12:45,790 --> 01:12:47,426
Get him used to
contact. You know,

1487
01:12:47,792 --> 01:12:49,593
just grabbing on to one of
the guys and pulling him in.

1488
01:12:49,594 --> 01:12:50,995
That was just a drill.

1489
01:12:51,195 --> 01:12:53,532
He would just do that
for 20, 30 minutes.

1490
01:12:53,665 --> 01:12:57,502
And then, pull him in,
step, pull him in, step.

1491
01:12:57,669 --> 01:13:01,172
We sit there and we do
rolls for 15 minutes

1492
01:13:01,339 --> 01:13:04,208
and then break falls
for another 15 minutes.

1493
01:13:04,375 --> 01:13:07,311
Like that alone is
taxing on anybody.

1494
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,748
I wish I could get an ice bath.

1495
01:13:09,948 --> 01:13:11,650
I'll get it. Still rolling.

1496
01:13:11,816 --> 01:13:14,018
Ice bath. I need an ice bath.

1497
01:13:17,456 --> 01:13:21,493
In the training room, I got so used
to four months of him collapsing

1498
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:24,162
on the ground, coughing
for ten minutes straight.

1499
01:13:27,499 --> 01:13:31,235
He sounds like he's gonna die
between every take of rehearsal.

1500
01:13:31,402 --> 01:13:33,672
I've seen him go
straight to the bathroom.

1501
01:13:33,838 --> 01:13:37,375
Like he's done that. He's
definitely barfed during training.

1502
01:13:37,542 --> 01:13:40,044
He would go in the
bathroom, come back out,

1503
01:13:40,211 --> 01:13:42,547
just white face
and just be like,

1504
01:13:42,714 --> 01:13:46,050
"All right, what's
next? Where we going?"

1505
01:13:46,217 --> 01:13:49,921
Which I think for all of us
was just like, "Fuck yeah."

1506
01:13:57,496 --> 01:13:59,263
Chad used to get a
camera and he goes,

1507
01:13:59,430 --> 01:14:02,200
"I want Reeves to do 50 throws
before he leaves, in a row."

1508
01:14:04,836 --> 01:14:07,939
And he's like in New York and I'm
in LA, but he puts a camera there.

1509
01:14:08,106 --> 01:14:09,641
So I'm training Reeves.

1510
01:14:09,841 --> 01:14:12,577
And then, it's like, he does
like take... He does 30.

1511
01:14:15,013 --> 01:14:17,882
And he's dying. Like he's
fucking like passing out.

1512
01:14:18,049 --> 01:14:19,784
And I'm like, "Ah, we
should let him go."

1513
01:14:19,918 --> 01:14:21,953
'Cause whatever, right?

1514
01:14:22,353 --> 01:14:24,855
Then I get a text. It's like, "No,
that's number"... Like he counts it.

1515
01:14:24,856 --> 01:14:26,791
"That's like number 31."

1516
01:14:26,958 --> 01:14:29,594
You know what I mean? I'm like
looking. Right? He's watching.

1517
01:14:30,762 --> 01:14:33,097
So, it's like, he
had... he had to do it.

1518
01:14:33,264 --> 01:14:34,733
It's nuts, man.

1519
01:14:37,101 --> 01:14:40,238
He knows Keanu so well. He
knows like how much he can do.

1520
01:14:40,404 --> 01:14:44,108
I'm like, "Dude, he's not
g... He's gonna die, right?"

1521
01:14:44,275 --> 01:14:47,612
Like most people are just like... They
would have, like, stopped for sure.

1522
01:14:47,779 --> 01:14:51,482
So he knows how much you can push him,
not just physically, but mentally.

1523
01:14:54,285 --> 01:14:57,005
When you know you have someone as
your lead actor go down those roads,

1524
01:14:57,055 --> 01:14:59,423
you have a whole nother
level of opportunities

1525
01:14:59,591 --> 01:15:00,959
that a lot of
directors don't have.

1526
01:15:01,125 --> 01:15:03,595
There's actors that
directors meet on the day.

1527
01:15:03,762 --> 01:15:05,997
You know, I knew Keanu for
years before I directed him.

1528
01:15:06,164 --> 01:15:09,000
I don't know if you realize
what kind of advantage that is.

1529
01:15:09,167 --> 01:15:12,604
No better union could have
happened in the film business

1530
01:15:12,771 --> 01:15:13,972
than Chad and Keanu.

1531
01:15:14,138 --> 01:15:16,841
Keanu is the hardest
training actor

1532
01:15:17,008 --> 01:15:19,010
I've ever worked with, right?

1533
01:15:19,177 --> 01:15:21,813
He's so committed, but
it's the same as Chad.

1534
01:15:21,980 --> 01:15:23,014
They're both the same.

1535
01:15:23,314 --> 01:15:25,515
They see something
in their head,

1536
01:15:25,516 --> 01:15:30,722
and they will both bleed
profusely to achieve it.

1537
01:15:30,922 --> 01:15:33,825
Do you remember the
origin of "Wick is pain"?

1538
01:15:33,992 --> 01:15:36,460
Day one? No.

1539
01:15:36,661 --> 01:15:39,864
"Wick is pain" didn't
evolve until John Wick...

1540
01:15:42,266 --> 01:15:43,334
3.

1541
01:15:44,669 --> 01:15:46,705
I think it was during
the antique fight.

1542
01:15:46,871 --> 01:15:49,140
My knee had blown up. Oh,
my God, I remember that.

1543
01:15:49,307 --> 01:15:51,810
The first week of shooting
and I'm sitting there,

1544
01:15:51,976 --> 01:15:54,512
and I'm like... And I think,

1545
01:15:54,713 --> 01:15:58,281
in the fog of our...
in the fog of Wick,

1546
01:15:58,282 --> 01:16:00,151
I think I was sitting
there and then you...

1547
01:16:00,619 --> 01:16:03,553
Like, I was there and maybe I
was like, "Hey, how's it going?"

1548
01:16:03,554 --> 01:16:07,025
And you looked at me and you
were like, "Wick is pain."

1549
01:16:07,191 --> 01:16:09,160
And then you...

1550
01:16:09,327 --> 01:16:11,247
That sounded like something
a director would say.

1551
01:16:11,329 --> 01:16:12,864
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1552
01:16:13,031 --> 01:16:15,199
I remember that. Your
knee was fucking swollen.

1553
01:16:15,366 --> 01:16:17,902
It wasn't that bad, but
it was a little swollen.

1554
01:16:18,036 --> 01:16:20,196
We were trying to get Patrick
and to get the doctor in.

1555
01:16:20,338 --> 01:16:23,741
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I had the thing
and it was a bit of a situation.

1556
01:16:23,742 --> 01:16:26,302
But that's my recollection of when
like... That's the etymology...

1557
01:16:26,444 --> 01:16:30,081
...of when "Wick is
pain" became formalized.

1558
01:16:30,248 --> 01:16:31,783
I think with Chad,

1559
01:16:31,983 --> 01:16:34,052
there needs to be a
healthy amount of suffering

1560
01:16:34,218 --> 01:16:38,156
that is in direct relation
with the success of the film.

1561
01:16:38,356 --> 01:16:40,692
When we were on
the first John Wick

1562
01:16:40,859 --> 01:16:44,028
and we were doing the fight at the
Navy Yard at the end of the film,

1563
01:16:44,195 --> 01:16:45,563
and it's freezing

1564
01:16:45,730 --> 01:16:48,466
and it's rain and it's terrible,

1565
01:16:48,667 --> 01:16:50,101
he was... he was so...

1566
01:16:50,434 --> 01:16:51,802
I don't think I've seen
him that happy before.

1567
01:16:51,803 --> 01:16:53,537
He loved it, you know?

1568
01:16:53,705 --> 01:16:55,640
And I'm sure Reeves was
right there with him.

1569
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,076
They're just both
miserable suffering.

1570
01:16:58,242 --> 01:17:00,444
Anything hard is always
gonna be a little painful.

1571
01:17:00,611 --> 01:17:02,747
Is good. Yeah, that's good.

1572
01:17:02,914 --> 01:17:05,950
I mean, honestly, if it didn't hurt,
if we weren't stressed out by it...

1573
01:17:06,117 --> 01:17:09,053
I mean, it's more than just the stunts.
Like we'd be working on the script.

1574
01:17:09,220 --> 01:17:10,955
Yeah. Trying to figure out...

1575
01:17:11,122 --> 01:17:14,225
And then that's... that's
a different kind of pain.

1576
01:17:14,392 --> 01:17:15,836
When you're trying to
figure out these scenes,

1577
01:17:15,860 --> 01:17:17,896
you can sense that
there's something cool,

1578
01:17:18,062 --> 01:17:20,675
we could do something really neat,
but it's... You can't quite get it.

1579
01:17:20,699 --> 01:17:24,502
And I think that's sometimes
more painful than the...

1580
01:17:24,703 --> 01:17:27,772
Well, almost as painful
as getting hit by a bus.

1581
01:17:27,939 --> 01:17:30,909
Could you recommend anything
for the end of the night?

1582
01:17:31,075 --> 01:17:33,111
Something big, bold?

1583
01:17:33,277 --> 01:17:36,748
May I suggest the Benelli M4?

1584
01:17:41,786 --> 01:17:43,866
This is where we wanted to
up the action a little bit,

1585
01:17:43,922 --> 01:17:45,762
so we started Keanu
training with Taran Butler,

1586
01:17:45,790 --> 01:17:47,258
the three-gun
champion of the world.

1587
01:17:57,035 --> 01:18:00,404
I didn't know that I was getting
gun hands in John Wick 1,

1588
01:18:00,604 --> 01:18:05,643
but in Chapter 2, I was like,
"The manipulations. Oh, yeah."

1589
01:18:08,780 --> 01:18:10,181
We went from John Wick 1,

1590
01:18:10,348 --> 01:18:13,517
where it was like 100 rounds
at a shooting session,

1591
01:18:13,684 --> 01:18:16,988
to when we got to Taran on number
two, it was like 3,000 rounds.

1592
01:18:17,155 --> 01:18:18,456
Yes.

1593
01:18:26,530 --> 01:18:27,999
Did I not hit it? Nope.

1594
01:18:29,033 --> 01:18:31,169
Chad's obsessed with
weaponry and guns,

1595
01:18:31,335 --> 01:18:33,071
and I think always
like the cutting edge

1596
01:18:33,271 --> 01:18:35,239
of what would be next
and what we could do.

1597
01:18:37,641 --> 01:18:40,878
The airsoft thing at the time we
thought was not revolutionary,

1598
01:18:40,879 --> 01:18:42,646
but we were like,
"This is incredible."

1599
01:18:42,814 --> 01:18:44,749
But it was like 70%
of what we wanted.

1600
01:18:44,949 --> 01:18:48,686
As we increased the
sophistication of the weaponry,

1601
01:18:48,853 --> 01:18:51,573
Chad was like, "I want to be able
to do an enormous amount of gunplay.

1602
01:18:51,655 --> 01:18:53,825
I never want to worry about
it, and I hate airsofts."

1603
01:18:53,958 --> 01:18:55,960
And I'm like, "Well,
that leaves us nowhere."

1604
01:18:56,327 --> 01:18:59,462
Because we can't have blanks,
obviously. It can't be plastic guns.

1605
01:18:59,463 --> 01:19:03,667
You've got to remember, Chad was
Brandon Lee's stunt double in The Crow,

1606
01:19:03,835 --> 01:19:05,703
so Chad more so than
I think any person

1607
01:19:05,870 --> 01:19:07,547
that comes out of the
stunt world in Hollywood

1608
01:19:07,571 --> 01:19:11,009
is hypervigilant and aware
of gun safety on a set.

1609
01:19:11,142 --> 01:19:12,510
That's bad. Yeah, yeah.

1610
01:19:12,743 --> 01:19:14,946
And a lot of the
gunfire is close combat.

1611
01:19:15,046 --> 01:19:17,581
And so, how do you do that with,
you know, a gun that looks real?

1612
01:19:17,748 --> 01:19:19,717
So, you are the speed of light.

1613
01:19:19,884 --> 01:19:21,285
I'm gonna name the gun that.

1614
01:19:21,485 --> 01:19:23,187
Speed of light. All right.

1615
01:19:23,287 --> 01:19:24,889
But then Chad found Taran,

1616
01:19:25,323 --> 01:19:29,459
and they actually found the
secret sauce of plugging guns.

1617
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:34,398
Chad likes to have so much close contact
action that he solid plugs everything.

1618
01:19:34,565 --> 01:19:37,368
What that means is a normal
blank gun in a movie,

1619
01:19:37,535 --> 01:19:39,537
when you fire it, the
flame comes out the front.

1620
01:19:39,703 --> 01:19:42,273
When he solid plugs it,
you don't get that anymore.

1621
01:19:42,440 --> 01:19:45,109
You get the ejection of
the casing flying out,

1622
01:19:45,276 --> 01:19:47,545
you get the reloads, you get
the smoke, you get all that.

1623
01:19:47,711 --> 01:19:50,548
The action's operating,
but it's safe.

1624
01:19:50,714 --> 01:19:52,954
You can go right up against
somebody and pull the trigger.

1625
01:19:53,017 --> 01:19:54,252
It's not going to hurt them.

1626
01:19:54,418 --> 01:19:56,387
As soon as you put a
blank with a blank gun,

1627
01:19:56,554 --> 01:19:58,765
you're basically shooting a pistol
that's been fitted for blanks.

1628
01:19:58,789 --> 01:20:01,589
And you can get wadded. I've been
sprayed a thousand times with wadding.

1629
01:20:01,625 --> 01:20:03,061
I've been shot and burned.

1630
01:20:03,227 --> 01:20:04,939
Nobody can get killed
with a solid plug gun.

1631
01:20:04,963 --> 01:20:06,464
Nothing comes out of the front.

1632
01:20:09,367 --> 01:20:11,135
And now the gun cycles.
It's totally safe.

1633
01:20:11,302 --> 01:20:13,542
You can have your hand in the
front. It won't do anything.

1634
01:20:13,604 --> 01:20:18,476
There was also a very big benefit
audio-wise for the stunt performers.

1635
01:20:18,642 --> 01:20:19,911
Things are going on.

1636
01:20:20,078 --> 01:20:21,455
There's a hundred guys
Keanu is fighting,

1637
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,190
so people are yelling,
making kung fu noises.

1638
01:20:23,214 --> 01:20:25,016
So, the fact that
we had a plugged gun

1639
01:20:25,216 --> 01:20:27,318
that actually sounded
like a real gun,

1640
01:20:27,485 --> 01:20:29,165
you know, it was easier
for our stuntpeople

1641
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,323
to take their cues off
the sounds of the guns.

1642
01:20:35,326 --> 01:20:37,161
That was awesome.

1643
01:20:37,328 --> 01:20:38,529
I like that press.

1644
01:20:38,729 --> 01:20:40,965
Ah. So fun.

1645
01:20:41,132 --> 01:20:44,335
- Now we're just gonna slap on the Benelli.
- We better get that shotgun.

1646
01:20:50,008 --> 01:20:52,310
- Oh, yeah. Match saver.
- Match saver.

1647
01:20:52,476 --> 01:20:55,446
When he runs out of ammo, this
is called the match saver.

1648
01:20:55,613 --> 01:20:58,616
In the old-school way, you'd
have to reach down to your belt,

1649
01:20:59,850 --> 01:21:02,520
grab a shell, drop it
in, and drop the bolt.

1650
01:21:02,686 --> 01:21:05,789
And that takes, like,
almost two seconds.

1651
01:21:05,957 --> 01:21:08,359
This way, I'm
shooting, I run empty,

1652
01:21:08,526 --> 01:21:09,660
I know immediately.

1653
01:21:09,860 --> 01:21:11,529
I throw it in and hit the bolt.

1654
01:21:14,198 --> 01:21:17,969
- Also on that one did the jacket pull draw.
- Jacket pull draw. Yeah.

1655
01:21:18,136 --> 01:21:19,837
Jacket pull draw.
Jacket pull draw.

1656
01:21:20,004 --> 01:21:23,807
Very slick. So good.
Jacket pull draw.

1657
01:21:27,478 --> 01:21:30,481
A lot of the DNA, like we say, is
always in the first one, right?

1658
01:21:30,648 --> 01:21:33,351
But I keep going back to number
two as the real experiment.

1659
01:21:39,723 --> 01:21:41,159
John Wick rock concert.

1660
01:21:41,325 --> 01:21:43,261
See, where's Dave now?
This is his cup of tea.

1661
01:21:43,461 --> 01:21:45,096
Dave would be up there rapping.

1662
01:21:46,864 --> 01:21:49,200
When we were in Rome and we
were doing the concert stuff,

1663
01:21:49,367 --> 01:21:51,936
that was when we decided, okay,
we have this huge crowd of people.

1664
01:21:52,136 --> 01:21:54,872
We have music going, like, how
kooky are we gonna get here?

1665
01:21:55,039 --> 01:21:57,617
Like, is John Wick really gonna
run up on stage and shoot somebody?

1666
01:21:57,641 --> 01:21:58,676
We're like, yeah. Yeah.

1667
01:22:03,014 --> 01:22:04,814
This is where we were
like, okay, we're going.

1668
01:22:04,882 --> 01:22:06,962
The crowd's cheering for
shooting people in the head.

1669
01:22:07,018 --> 01:22:09,287
So, it's kind of like Red
Circle from the first one.

1670
01:22:09,487 --> 01:22:10,854
We do like a club scene.

1671
01:22:11,055 --> 01:22:13,724
That whole concert, for
me, it came together

1672
01:22:13,857 --> 01:22:16,370
so big and so larger than life,
and when we heard the music going

1673
01:22:16,394 --> 01:22:18,596
it was like, "Okay, we got to
pump this up a little bit."

1674
01:22:18,762 --> 01:22:21,475
Then it was you like, "I'm gonna jump
down the stairs. We're just gonna go.

1675
01:22:21,499 --> 01:22:22,900
I'm gonna run
through the crowd."

1676
01:22:23,067 --> 01:22:25,147
It was this different kind
of energy than number one.

1677
01:22:25,336 --> 01:22:26,537
It was a lot more aggressive.

1678
01:22:26,704 --> 01:22:27,738
Yeah.

1679
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,075
Bang, bang! Bang! Bang!

1680
01:22:32,043 --> 01:22:33,944
Bang! Got to go in here.

1681
01:22:34,112 --> 01:22:35,779
Oh, no. Bang, bang!

1682
01:22:36,447 --> 01:22:37,781
Bang!

1683
01:22:39,683 --> 01:22:40,818
Shit! Bang!

1684
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,388
We did invent this
choreography in the night.

1685
01:22:44,555 --> 01:22:46,224
Literally did that on the night.

1686
01:22:46,390 --> 01:22:49,127
Flick. Look at
that. That's legit.

1687
01:22:49,293 --> 01:22:52,163
John Wick's just got a lot of
angry arms. Yeah, look at that.

1688
01:22:52,363 --> 01:22:54,398
I love that, the pullback.

1689
01:22:54,565 --> 01:22:57,605
I just want to see the heads explode. I
just want to see a little bit of that.

1690
01:23:00,071 --> 01:23:02,111
Yeah, pretty much just made
this all up on the night.

1691
01:23:02,140 --> 01:23:04,441
But I think this introduced,
too, the idea of the toolbox,

1692
01:23:04,442 --> 01:23:06,444
the way that you
guys trained me.

1693
01:23:06,877 --> 01:23:10,380
The magic of what Keanu went through
is we built a giant toolbox for him...

1694
01:23:10,381 --> 01:23:12,250
You're out.

1695
01:23:12,683 --> 01:23:15,418
...that at any moment, we can pull
out tools from and plug and play.

1696
01:23:15,419 --> 01:23:17,755
Secondary. I built the
training very similar

1697
01:23:17,921 --> 01:23:19,121
to the way we do choreography.

1698
01:23:19,223 --> 01:23:20,658
I would put a dummy
round in the mag

1699
01:23:20,824 --> 01:23:22,464
so he would have to
correct a malfunction.

1700
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,662
So, I would create problems
in the middle of this

1701
01:23:24,795 --> 01:23:26,097
that he would have to solve.

1702
01:23:26,264 --> 01:23:27,974
All that prep gives you
this luxury of, like,

1703
01:23:27,998 --> 01:23:30,101
we can be flexible
and in the moment,

1704
01:23:30,268 --> 01:23:32,636
and almost ad-lib the action

1705
01:23:32,803 --> 01:23:35,173
because he's already
gotten so good.

1706
01:23:35,339 --> 01:23:37,175
What? Cut it!

1707
01:23:37,341 --> 01:23:38,709
This is what Reeves can do.

1708
01:23:38,909 --> 01:23:41,011
And see, that spoiled me
for the rest of the movie.

1709
01:23:41,179 --> 01:23:44,179
So, now I know you can do anything. I'm
like, "I can change shit on the day."

1710
01:23:44,248 --> 01:23:46,784
In most action movies, you
can't change the choreography.

1711
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:49,620
Yeah. You don't want
to upset "insert name."

1712
01:23:49,787 --> 01:23:51,555
Yeah. After this, it
was like, "Oh, no,

1713
01:23:51,789 --> 01:23:54,192
we can change everything
on Keanu. He's great."

1714
01:23:54,325 --> 01:23:56,726
All the stunt teams are like,
"So we can still change things?

1715
01:23:56,727 --> 01:23:58,407
This is great." We can
still change things.

1716
01:23:58,562 --> 01:24:01,298
Sorry. Back to one. Reset.

1717
01:24:01,299 --> 01:24:03,134
Fuck! It's all good.

1718
01:24:03,301 --> 01:24:04,811
That's what I like about
the John Wick action.

1719
01:24:04,835 --> 01:24:06,746
John Wick always feels a
little back on his heels.

1720
01:24:06,770 --> 01:24:08,782
Kind of like he just learned
the choreography that day.

1721
01:24:08,806 --> 01:24:10,074
Yeah, yeah. Which is awesome.

1722
01:24:10,274 --> 01:24:12,576
And after this, now it
was a challenge to us.

1723
01:24:12,776 --> 01:24:15,179
How do we keep up with Keanu?

1724
01:24:15,346 --> 01:24:19,317
Whoever comes, whoever it is,

1725
01:24:20,451 --> 01:24:21,685
I'll kill them.

1726
01:24:22,853 --> 01:24:24,388
I'll kill them all.

1727
01:24:24,588 --> 01:24:28,526
When John Wick 2 was
being put together,

1728
01:24:28,692 --> 01:24:31,995
there were certain actors
that were saying, like,

1729
01:24:32,196 --> 01:24:33,664
"We would love to
be in John Wick 2."

1730
01:24:35,133 --> 01:24:37,067
You're not having a good
night, are you, John?

1731
01:24:37,301 --> 01:24:41,605
Once they put Rome on the map, it was
like, "I need to be in John Wick 2."

1732
01:24:41,739 --> 01:24:45,042
Chad, man, like, I have to be in
there. I have to be in that world.

1733
01:24:45,209 --> 01:24:48,078
I reached out to Keanu, I was
like, "Dude, all of our friends,

1734
01:24:48,279 --> 01:24:50,548
all the guys that worked
on The Matrix pictures,

1735
01:24:50,714 --> 01:24:53,384
like, everybody's in the
movie. You gotta hook me up."

1736
01:24:53,551 --> 01:24:57,255
Mr. Wick doesn't remember,
but we met many years ago.

1737
01:24:57,421 --> 01:24:59,457
And then there were other
actors that we thought,

1738
01:24:59,657 --> 01:25:01,368
"They would be great.
Let's try to get them."

1739
01:25:01,392 --> 01:25:07,030
And at that point, not
everyone was in on John Wick

1740
01:25:07,198 --> 01:25:10,134
as such a big thing that it's
eventually gonna come out to be.

1741
01:25:13,337 --> 01:25:14,505
Oh, you motherfucker.

1742
01:25:14,738 --> 01:25:17,441
When you get to John Wick 3,

1743
01:25:17,575 --> 01:25:21,078
now there is this corner
that has been turned

1744
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:25,716
where pretty much everybody
is aware of John Wick.

1745
01:25:25,883 --> 01:25:28,252
We can literally
call it a franchise

1746
01:25:28,419 --> 01:25:32,656
because number one worked,
number two worked even better,

1747
01:25:32,856 --> 01:25:34,625
and we're planning on
making number three.

1748
01:25:36,460 --> 01:25:39,963
Now you have brilliant actors,
Academy Award-winning actors,

1749
01:25:40,130 --> 01:25:44,034
like Halle Berry
and Anjelica Huston,

1750
01:25:44,235 --> 01:25:47,405
who really understands
what John Wick is,

1751
01:25:47,571 --> 01:25:52,276
wants to be with Keanu,
wants to be with 87eleven.

1752
01:25:52,443 --> 01:25:56,814
I was a fan. I mean, there's
not a dull moment on screen.

1753
01:25:56,980 --> 01:25:58,860
I don't need to see the
script. Just sign me up.

1754
01:25:58,949 --> 01:26:00,651
I gotta tell you,

1755
01:26:00,818 --> 01:26:03,854
I've been looking forward to
meeting you for a long time.

1756
01:26:04,054 --> 01:26:07,525
I'm a huge fan, John Wick.

1757
01:26:07,725 --> 01:26:09,565
We're part of the
establishment all of a sudden.

1758
01:26:09,660 --> 01:26:11,061
When we weren't,

1759
01:26:11,262 --> 01:26:13,022
John Wick 1 was way out
of the establishment.

1760
01:26:13,231 --> 01:26:16,700
Even John Wick 2 was, like,
a foot in and a foot out.

1761
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,972
And I said this to Keanu, I'm like,
"Listen, for better or for worse,

1762
01:26:22,139 --> 01:26:27,311
we are now a place where in the economics
of film and television and studios,

1763
01:26:27,478 --> 01:26:29,313
we have to expand this world."

1764
01:26:29,513 --> 01:26:33,984
Like, there's no version of us
going, "Ah, guys, we're good."

1765
01:26:34,117 --> 01:26:37,688
You know, the shareholders of
Lionsgate's like, "No, we want more."

1766
01:26:37,855 --> 01:26:41,559
And so I think we've all kind
of collectively realized that,

1767
01:26:41,759 --> 01:26:45,729
and now we're like, "Okay, how do we make
things just a bit cool, a bit different?"

1768
01:26:45,929 --> 01:26:49,667
All right. Picture's up.
Lock it up. Here we go.

1769
01:26:51,201 --> 01:26:52,736
Cool location, right?

1770
01:26:52,936 --> 01:26:54,372
It's awesome. Thanks.

1771
01:26:55,806 --> 01:27:00,744
Fuck yeah. John Wick 3.
Manhattan. New York City Library.

1772
01:27:05,115 --> 01:27:09,086
I feel like every John Wick film
has had, like, the what and the why.

1773
01:27:09,287 --> 01:27:10,887
But what's the character?
What's the why?

1774
01:27:11,655 --> 01:27:12,890
And then along that,

1775
01:27:13,056 --> 01:27:14,992
each film has had two or three,

1776
01:27:15,158 --> 01:27:17,861
like, action, not
even sequences,

1777
01:27:18,028 --> 01:27:20,931
but, like, I want to be
here. It's a mirror room.

1778
01:27:24,568 --> 01:27:26,670
It's gonna be the fight
in the library with Boban.

1779
01:27:26,870 --> 01:27:30,007
It's gonna be the
stairs in Chapter 4.

1780
01:27:30,173 --> 01:27:34,345
There's always been these
impulses of action or set pieces,

1781
01:27:34,512 --> 01:27:38,416
and somehow the story has to go
through here and here, you know,

1782
01:27:38,582 --> 01:27:41,719
and that kind of relentlessness
of trying to figure it out.

1783
01:27:44,522 --> 01:27:47,090
Dogs, horses, pigeons,
Grand Central.

1784
01:27:47,257 --> 01:27:50,260
Grand Central. Grand Central.

1785
01:27:50,428 --> 01:27:52,896
All right, get out of
here. I gotta go to work.

1786
01:27:53,063 --> 01:27:57,335
This is Ballet Land. That's these
ladies. What are we shooting right now?

1787
01:27:57,535 --> 01:28:00,304
Tell 'em. John Wick 3.

1788
01:28:00,504 --> 01:28:02,272
That says it all, doesn't it?

1789
01:28:02,440 --> 01:28:05,108
We're going to Marrakech.
- Sounds good.

1790
01:28:05,275 --> 01:28:07,911
Going to Morocco. Halle Berry
in the desert with some dogs.

1791
01:28:08,078 --> 01:28:11,214
It's one of the hardest
things I've ever done.

1792
01:28:11,382 --> 01:28:15,052
I pushed myself to the limit.
I had some broken bones.

1793
01:28:17,020 --> 01:28:18,121
But I survived.

1794
01:28:20,257 --> 01:28:22,225
Dogs. We need
dogs in the movie.

1795
01:28:22,393 --> 01:28:25,073
What are you gonna do? Well, we're
gonna train dogs to attack groins.

1796
01:28:29,299 --> 01:28:32,302
That was one of the concepts.
That was one of the concepts.

1797
01:28:32,503 --> 01:28:34,543
John Wick 3. If you knew
the budget we spent on dogs.

1798
01:28:34,638 --> 01:28:35,673
That was the concept.

1799
01:28:39,410 --> 01:28:40,887
We're gonna train
Halle Berry with dogs.

1800
01:28:40,911 --> 01:28:42,646
Got an actress
who wanted to say,

1801
01:28:42,813 --> 01:28:45,416
"Yeah, I want to train dogs
for seven, eight months."

1802
01:28:45,583 --> 01:28:48,986
And that's not from a book series.
That's not from a graphic novel.

1803
01:28:49,152 --> 01:28:51,254
That's from us going,
"Hey, man, you like dogs?

1804
01:28:51,422 --> 01:28:53,967
I like dogs. You like dogs? I like
dogs. Let's do something cool with dogs.

1805
01:28:53,991 --> 01:28:56,594
We did guns and cars. Let's
do dogs. Yeah, I like dogs."

1806
01:28:59,797 --> 01:29:01,599
Dog fu. Dog fu, man.

1807
01:29:03,767 --> 01:29:05,979
And then, Keanu's going, "John
Wick's got to be on a horse."

1808
01:29:06,003 --> 01:29:08,639
And I'm like, "John Wick on a
horse sounds pretty fucking cool."

1809
01:29:12,776 --> 01:29:15,011
But a lot of other people
that read the script went,

1810
01:29:15,012 --> 01:29:18,382
"Yeah, that's not... How
is that gonna be cool?"

1811
01:29:18,582 --> 01:29:20,627
- Because he ran out of Central Park.
- And we're like,

1812
01:29:20,651 --> 01:29:22,829
"We're not really sure, but we're
gonna try and figure it out."

1813
01:29:22,853 --> 01:29:24,988
There's horses by Central Park.

1814
01:29:25,155 --> 01:29:28,325
If you're willing to endure that
little bit of fear of the unknown

1815
01:29:28,492 --> 01:29:30,412
and that little bit of
pain of figuring it out...

1816
01:29:30,594 --> 01:29:32,463
Who doesn't want to see
John Wick on a horse?

1817
01:29:32,630 --> 01:29:34,632
- Yeah.
- In a suit.

1818
01:29:34,798 --> 01:29:36,366
I mean, how we...

1819
01:29:36,534 --> 01:29:38,702
And I think most people
get weirded out by it

1820
01:29:38,869 --> 01:29:40,749
because they don't know
how it fits in the story

1821
01:29:40,838 --> 01:29:43,306
or they don't know how to make
it work with the character,

1822
01:29:43,507 --> 01:29:45,743
and that's the beauty of
what we have with John Wick.

1823
01:29:45,943 --> 01:29:47,478
It's our IP. Yeah.

1824
01:29:47,711 --> 01:29:50,213
So, there's no...
There's no real rules.

1825
01:29:50,313 --> 01:29:52,993
Like, we've had people come up to
us and actually say to Keanu and I,

1826
01:29:53,116 --> 01:29:54,327
"Well, that's not
very John Wick."

1827
01:29:54,351 --> 01:29:55,919
And we're like, "I don't know,

1828
01:29:56,119 --> 01:29:57,531
that's John Wick, and he
says he'll be on a horse."

1829
01:29:57,555 --> 01:29:59,089
You want to ride a
horse? Yeah, man.

1830
01:29:59,289 --> 01:30:01,169
All right, then it's
pretty John Wick, isn't it?

1831
01:30:03,994 --> 01:30:06,997
Getting to know Jackie Chan
and Donnie Yen and Jet Li,

1832
01:30:07,164 --> 01:30:08,708
and having worked
with all those people.

1833
01:30:08,732 --> 01:30:11,769
I was talking to
Jackie one time...

1834
01:30:11,969 --> 01:30:14,672
This is after spending a lot
of time watching how he works.

1835
01:30:14,838 --> 01:30:17,274
And, you know, I was
giving him a little shit.

1836
01:30:17,475 --> 01:30:20,353
You know, like, if Keanu and I were just
sitting here and I was telling Jackie,

1837
01:30:20,377 --> 01:30:23,156
"You know, if you have two people sitting
there and there's a desk between us,"

1838
01:30:23,180 --> 01:30:25,492
we're like, "Well, you know, he'd
say something, I'd say something.

1839
01:30:25,516 --> 01:30:27,160
I'd jump over the desk,
we'd start fighting,

1840
01:30:27,184 --> 01:30:28,744
and then we'd punch
and punch and punch,

1841
01:30:28,886 --> 01:30:30,964
and then the other guy would
walk out and say a cool line."

1842
01:30:30,988 --> 01:30:34,858
Jackie would do literally the exact
opposite of any other choreographer.

1843
01:30:35,025 --> 01:30:37,528
He'd go, "Okay, you don't say
anything. I'll say a joke.

1844
01:30:37,695 --> 01:30:40,864
I'm gonna try to walk out, but
you stop me from walking out.

1845
01:30:41,031 --> 01:30:44,468
Then the room catches on
fire, the door is locked,

1846
01:30:44,668 --> 01:30:47,137
we get handcuffed together and...
What, are you right-handed?

1847
01:30:47,337 --> 01:30:49,206
Okay, so you can't
use your right hand.

1848
01:30:49,372 --> 01:30:51,350
And you got to protect this
vase here from breaking

1849
01:30:51,374 --> 01:30:52,976
because that's really
what you wanted.

1850
01:30:53,176 --> 01:30:55,388
And you can't kill anybody,
although everybody has a gun."

1851
01:30:55,412 --> 01:30:59,449
And you'd look at Jackie and go,
"Well, how am I supposed to do that?"

1852
01:30:59,617 --> 01:31:01,585
And he had the best answer ever.

1853
01:31:01,752 --> 01:31:04,330
He looked right back and said, "I
have no idea how you're gonna do it,

1854
01:31:04,354 --> 01:31:07,324
but if you figure it out, it'll
be the best fight in the movie."

1855
01:31:07,525 --> 01:31:09,827
One of the sequences that
I think will always go down

1856
01:31:10,027 --> 01:31:15,265
as one of the greatest moments in all
four John Wick movies is the knife fight.

1857
01:31:15,432 --> 01:31:19,670
It's using all the things that
would normally be a problem.

1858
01:31:19,870 --> 01:31:24,742
John is in a straight, narrow
room, and he doesn't have a gun.

1859
01:31:24,908 --> 01:31:28,779
And all these assassins who have guns
are coming to get him, and he can't hide.

1860
01:31:28,946 --> 01:31:33,651
So now he has to neutralize the guns
that could shoot him and kill him, right?

1861
01:31:33,817 --> 01:31:35,018
That's number one.

1862
01:31:35,218 --> 01:31:39,189
Number two, he gets
thrown against glass.

1863
01:31:39,389 --> 01:31:42,793
And what feels like it's gonna be
a problem turns out to be an asset.

1864
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,027
It's brilliant.

1865
01:31:50,267 --> 01:31:53,036
- That's so good.
- We always called it the snowball fight.

1866
01:31:53,236 --> 01:31:56,082
You and your brothers get the snowball
and you just chuck them at each other.

1867
01:31:56,106 --> 01:31:57,941
We were saying in
every action movie,

1868
01:31:58,108 --> 01:31:59,988
no matter who it is, he
always picks up a knife,

1869
01:32:00,077 --> 01:32:01,844
and they throw it, and it
sticks in, and the guy dies.

1870
01:32:01,845 --> 01:32:03,681
And we're like, "That
never really happens."

1871
01:32:03,847 --> 01:32:06,149
So let's do one where
everybody misses all the time.

1872
01:32:06,316 --> 01:32:07,876
We kept rehearsing
it and rehearsing it.

1873
01:32:07,918 --> 01:32:09,328
We kept changing all
the different pieces.

1874
01:32:09,352 --> 01:32:10,821
But it still didn't fit right.

1875
01:32:10,988 --> 01:32:12,956
I was like, "Okay, it's
gonna be a decent fight."

1876
01:32:13,123 --> 01:32:15,134
You know, I was looking forward to the
horse stuff more and all that shit.

1877
01:32:15,158 --> 01:32:17,327
- Yeah.
- It was about the third day of doing this.

1878
01:32:17,494 --> 01:32:20,363
It was when you come at him,
just going one, two, three.

1879
01:32:20,530 --> 01:32:24,067
My opinion totally changed in this
fight, right on that. Right here.

1880
01:32:31,041 --> 01:32:32,309
What do I do? Duck.

1881
01:32:32,475 --> 01:32:34,812
Duck? Duck? You better.

1882
01:32:37,047 --> 01:32:38,215
Duck?

1883
01:32:39,516 --> 01:32:41,018
This is real speed.

1884
01:32:41,184 --> 01:32:44,321
This is... Yeah, this
is Shane and Chen here.

1885
01:32:44,487 --> 01:32:46,223
Whoa! That's legit.

1886
01:32:46,389 --> 01:32:48,629
We were literally putting this
stuff together on the day.

1887
01:32:48,726 --> 01:32:49,726
Action!

1888
01:32:52,029 --> 01:32:55,733
Remember, like, when we had that,
like, fucking take that's in the movie?

1889
01:32:55,899 --> 01:32:56,900
Yep.

1890
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:58,400
Take forever.

1891
01:32:58,401 --> 01:32:59,903
Not that... I know.

1892
01:33:00,070 --> 01:33:03,674
Shane is, like, amazing
as well, but I'm so slow.

1893
01:33:03,841 --> 01:33:06,276
But there was something about
that one take that was like...

1894
01:33:06,476 --> 01:33:09,780
Yeah, that take, you know,
it's great. It's great.

1895
01:33:20,090 --> 01:33:24,594
I was like, "Guys, I don't think
I could do that any faster."

1896
01:33:24,762 --> 01:33:26,630
And Shane was
like, "Me neither."

1897
01:33:26,830 --> 01:33:28,932
We reached, like,
a high hand. It is.

1898
01:33:29,099 --> 01:33:31,969
It was so good but
so very tired. Right?

1899
01:33:33,536 --> 01:33:35,538
That was fast. A lot.

1900
01:33:36,073 --> 01:33:37,107
Jesus.

1901
01:33:37,374 --> 01:33:39,375
What I learned in John Wick 1,

1902
01:33:39,376 --> 01:33:41,444
which you carried on
through all of them,

1903
01:33:41,611 --> 01:33:45,115
was fight film with who
you trained with. Yeah.

1904
01:33:45,282 --> 01:33:47,918
Everyone gets to know
your timing, you know?

1905
01:33:48,085 --> 01:33:52,155
They know how slow I am, so
they can do stuff in between.

1906
01:33:52,355 --> 01:33:53,715
"Come on, Reeves!"
They compensate.

1907
01:33:53,857 --> 01:33:55,392
You figure everyone
else does that.

1908
01:33:55,693 --> 01:33:57,359
I don't know why movies
don't. They don't.

1909
01:34:00,563 --> 01:34:01,965
Cut! Cut.

1910
01:34:02,299 --> 01:34:03,299
Keanu, you know,
he's a perfectionist.

1911
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:04,567
I sucked.

1912
01:34:04,735 --> 01:34:06,336
And he is very hard on himself.

1913
01:34:06,536 --> 01:34:08,047
Obviously, his biggest action
movies other than John Wick

1914
01:34:08,071 --> 01:34:10,240
were the Matrix movies.
And the Wachowskis,

1915
01:34:10,373 --> 01:34:12,810
you know, there
was no good enough.

1916
01:34:12,976 --> 01:34:15,176
And even if it is perfect,
we'll shoot it ten more times

1917
01:34:15,245 --> 01:34:17,423
and make sure it's perfect-perfect,
you know, super-perfect.

1918
01:34:17,447 --> 01:34:19,182
Super-perfect.

1919
01:34:19,382 --> 01:34:21,394
That's a Reevesian word,
super-perfect. Yeah, that's...

1920
01:34:21,418 --> 01:34:23,754
That's where we get the
fuckity fucks. Yeah.

1921
01:34:23,921 --> 01:34:26,790
All directed at yourself,
which is very admirable.

1922
01:34:29,326 --> 01:34:31,294
Fuck! Fuck!

1923
01:34:31,461 --> 01:34:33,697
Cut. We'll go again. Fuck!

1924
01:34:33,897 --> 01:34:35,699
I can't do the fucking lock.

1925
01:34:35,899 --> 01:34:39,336
Fucking lock, fucking, fucking
lock, fucking lock, fuck.

1926
01:34:39,502 --> 01:34:42,439
Fuck! Fuck!

1927
01:34:42,605 --> 01:34:44,541
Fucker. Fucking,
fucking, fucking fuck.

1928
01:34:44,742 --> 01:34:47,778
Fuck. That is my bad. Fuck!

1929
01:34:47,945 --> 01:34:50,313
Okay, now let's just do that.

1930
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:51,480
Fuck!

1931
01:34:53,817 --> 01:34:54,817
Fuck.

1932
01:34:56,854 --> 01:34:57,955
Fuck!

1933
01:34:58,121 --> 01:34:59,121
Fuck!

1934
01:34:59,256 --> 01:35:01,792
Fuck. Fuck.

1935
01:35:06,930 --> 01:35:09,532
Fuck it. I fucked
that up. Fuck!

1936
01:35:09,666 --> 01:35:10,666
Cut.

1937
01:35:10,868 --> 01:35:11,869
Got it? Fuck!

1938
01:35:12,002 --> 01:35:13,971
Yes. Fuck!

1939
01:35:14,137 --> 01:35:15,172
Let's go again.

1940
01:35:15,338 --> 01:35:18,976
So, the fucks come from,

1941
01:35:19,142 --> 01:35:22,079
number one, you wanna do it
well. You wanna do it right.

1942
01:35:22,279 --> 01:35:25,883
And also, when I've been
thinking about it, it's like...

1943
01:35:28,886 --> 01:35:32,990
...when you have to do a wire, or
you go into an action sequence,

1944
01:35:33,156 --> 01:35:36,193
you basically have
like a spring.

1945
01:35:36,359 --> 01:35:39,329
You know, you have a tension
that's waiting to release.

1946
01:35:39,496 --> 01:35:43,033
And I feel like the fucks
are a way to like...

1947
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,703
It's like a kiai. Yeah. It's
like a kiai. Like, "Fuck!"

1948
01:35:46,837 --> 01:35:48,839
Like, "Fuck."

1949
01:35:49,206 --> 01:35:52,641
And then, you get to ratchet it back
up and go, "Okay, let's try again."

1950
01:35:52,642 --> 01:35:55,378
Three, two, one, action.

1951
01:35:57,314 --> 01:35:58,581
Yeah.

1952
01:36:01,184 --> 01:36:04,621
Reeves has consistently been one
of the kindest, hardest-working,

1953
01:36:04,822 --> 01:36:09,893
gentle, generous people that I've ever
met inside or outside of this business.

1954
01:36:10,060 --> 01:36:12,930
But when he plugs in and he
goes all in on something,

1955
01:36:13,096 --> 01:36:15,565
he's going all in, and you
gotta be ready for that.

1956
01:36:15,732 --> 01:36:17,067
He knows what he's doing,

1957
01:36:17,334 --> 01:36:19,701
and when he grabs you
to do a throw or flip,

1958
01:36:19,702 --> 01:36:21,805
it's like a vice.

1959
01:36:22,005 --> 01:36:26,043
And if you look on my Instagram,
I posted a small picture.

1960
01:36:26,209 --> 01:36:28,745
My arms are just like, what?

1961
01:36:28,912 --> 01:36:31,849
But I was proud of those.
I earned those, you know?

1962
01:36:32,049 --> 01:36:35,218
John Wick, Chad and Keanu
right here, all over.

1963
01:36:41,191 --> 01:36:44,895
I cannot tell you how many times on
a John Wick set I have taken my phone

1964
01:36:45,062 --> 01:36:48,731
and have videoed stunts and
fight scenes that were happening.

1965
01:36:48,899 --> 01:36:53,136
Not for any other reason but to
say, "Look, this actually was done."

1966
01:36:56,039 --> 01:36:58,108
You know, I've seen Keanu
and his stunt double

1967
01:36:58,275 --> 01:37:01,744
go through some incredibly
physical trauma on these movies.

1968
01:37:19,329 --> 01:37:22,532
Getting the chance to double
Keanu was pretty surreal.

1969
01:37:22,732 --> 01:37:26,636
His relationship with Chad being
his double through The Matrix,

1970
01:37:26,803 --> 01:37:28,605
which changed my life...

1971
01:37:28,805 --> 01:37:33,110
So, having Chad pass me the
torch was just a huge honor.

1972
01:37:33,243 --> 01:37:37,614
And just getting to meet Reeves
and make that relationship.

1973
01:37:39,316 --> 01:37:42,819
Well, they're playing the
character too, you know?

1974
01:37:45,688 --> 01:37:51,461
And they're doing things
where they can get hurt.

1975
01:37:52,462 --> 01:37:54,131
Like, really hurt.

1976
01:37:56,099 --> 01:37:58,201
I don't know how many
car hits Jackson took.

1977
01:38:01,804 --> 01:38:04,975
I mean, if someone counted
those, there's at least 20.

1978
01:38:06,109 --> 01:38:08,178
And that's, like, in
an edited version.

1979
01:38:14,717 --> 01:38:16,386
And then all of the
falls that he did...

1980
01:38:16,553 --> 01:38:17,687
...one, go!

1981
01:38:20,557 --> 01:38:21,891
Crashing, hitting...

1982
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:27,097
collisions that are
like, "Oh, no. What?"

1983
01:38:29,699 --> 01:38:33,203
And then all of the choreography
that he could do that I couldn't do,

1984
01:38:33,370 --> 01:38:34,704
you know, just physically.

1985
01:38:37,907 --> 01:38:39,943
Also the skill, the movement,

1986
01:38:40,143 --> 01:38:43,880
the way he moved, the way that he, you
know, paid attention to the character,

1987
01:38:44,047 --> 01:38:45,515
to me in the role.

1988
01:38:45,648 --> 01:38:47,384
And there's a talent to that.

1989
01:38:47,784 --> 01:38:50,252
It's not just, like, put the
pads on and get hit by a car.

1990
01:38:50,253 --> 01:38:52,022
You know, he's
playing John Wick.

1991
01:38:52,389 --> 01:38:54,549
And he's gotta move... You
want to sell it a little bit.

1992
01:38:55,392 --> 01:38:58,228
So, I think you're bonded
and connected in art,

1993
01:38:58,395 --> 01:39:01,031
and you're connected in
the physicality of it.

1994
01:39:09,339 --> 01:39:12,075
We're all very
masochistic in a way.

1995
01:39:12,242 --> 01:39:15,545
It's just like, "It hurts." It's a
"Thank you, sir. May I have another?"

1996
01:39:17,380 --> 01:39:22,719
My greatest physical pain was
from the high fall on Wick 3.

1997
01:39:28,791 --> 01:39:33,230
So, I fall I think it was 12
feet to this little awning,

1998
01:39:33,396 --> 01:39:35,332
which is Lexan, which
is like a plastic.

1999
01:39:35,532 --> 01:39:38,568
Slide down, I'm supposed to
catch my feet on the ledge

2000
01:39:38,735 --> 01:39:41,971
and, like, pencil
over, like dead body,

2001
01:39:42,139 --> 01:39:45,775
turn until I land on my back half
on, half off the fire escape.

2002
01:39:45,942 --> 01:39:48,078
It's supposed to collapse
and I'm supposed to fall.

2003
01:39:52,549 --> 01:39:53,829
You're going to...
Yep. Yes, sir.

2004
01:39:53,916 --> 01:39:54,951
All right.

2005
01:39:58,155 --> 01:39:59,789
Well, we tested the gag,

2006
01:39:59,956 --> 01:40:04,461
but we never tested the suit
on the Lexan that I slide down.

2007
01:40:04,627 --> 01:40:08,498
I just had, like, workout clothes
on or something like that.

2008
01:40:08,665 --> 01:40:13,203
And so, the static electricity from
a suit creates less friction...

2009
01:40:15,972 --> 01:40:18,775
so I think when I
fell, I slid so fast

2010
01:40:18,941 --> 01:40:21,878
that by the time I
figured out where I was,

2011
01:40:22,079 --> 01:40:24,614
my feet were going past where
they were supposed to catch.

2012
01:40:24,781 --> 01:40:28,285
So my hip ended up
chipping off the ledge.

2013
01:40:28,485 --> 01:40:31,788
And I'm going sideways, so I'm
about to Million Dollar Baby myself.

2014
01:40:31,954 --> 01:40:37,060
Luckily, I caught myself and landed
basically on the back of my head.

2015
01:40:38,695 --> 01:40:40,297
The fire escape
didn't break away,

2016
01:40:40,463 --> 01:40:42,965
which would have let me
fall and continue the shot

2017
01:40:43,133 --> 01:40:45,302
to where I would fall
into a box catcher.

2018
01:40:48,105 --> 01:40:50,740
The first thing that I thought of
was just like, "Move your foot."

2019
01:40:52,142 --> 01:40:54,244
My foot moved, and I was
like, "Oh, thank God."

2020
01:40:54,444 --> 01:40:57,444
"We're gonna try the other one." The
other went... I was like, "Okay, great."

2021
01:40:59,015 --> 01:41:01,384
This is how I knew it looked
bad in the video village.

2022
01:41:01,551 --> 01:41:04,053
Someone said Chad went, "Fuck!"

2023
01:41:04,221 --> 01:41:05,931
I can bring a Condor or
you can come down your way.

2024
01:41:05,955 --> 01:41:07,490
I'll just drop. Okay.

2025
01:41:08,358 --> 01:41:10,160
Three, two, one, jump!

2026
01:41:11,828 --> 01:41:14,431
I just looked down and Chad's
just hands in his pockets.

2027
01:41:16,032 --> 01:41:19,068
"How you doing?" I'm
like, "That sucked."

2028
01:41:19,802 --> 01:41:21,604
That was... Fuck.

2029
01:41:21,771 --> 01:41:23,740
You all right? Yeah.

2030
01:41:24,141 --> 01:41:26,508
I'm like, "Do we need to go
again?" He's like, "I'd like to."

2031
01:41:26,509 --> 01:41:29,045
He's like, "Can you?" I was
like, "Yeah, but if we go again,

2032
01:41:29,212 --> 01:41:30,680
we need to go, like, now

2033
01:41:30,847 --> 01:41:33,450
because I have a feeling
in about ten minutes,

2034
01:41:33,650 --> 01:41:37,019
I'm going to be like Batman
'cause I landed on my head."

2035
01:41:37,187 --> 01:41:40,290
He's like, "All right. Well, let's
figure out what we need to do to fix it,

2036
01:41:40,490 --> 01:41:43,726
and let's go. All right.
I'm glad you're okay."

2037
01:41:43,893 --> 01:41:47,063
Why was it so slick?
That was slick as shit.

2038
01:41:47,230 --> 01:41:49,566
So I went and did it again.

2039
01:41:49,732 --> 01:41:54,771
This is another testament
to our, like, bullshit.

2040
01:41:54,937 --> 01:41:57,374
See Chad looking at the
monitor and I was like,

2041
01:41:57,540 --> 01:41:59,142
"All right, how was
that?" He's like,

2042
01:42:00,243 --> 01:42:01,987
"Well, we're not going
to beat the first one."

2043
01:42:02,011 --> 01:42:04,080
He's like, "It looks like
you just fucking die."

2044
01:42:04,247 --> 01:42:05,948
And I was like, "Well, yeah."

2045
01:42:08,285 --> 01:42:13,590
So, you know, you're watching another
person put their health at risk.

2046
01:42:13,756 --> 01:42:15,992
You know? But you also
know that they love it.

2047
01:42:16,193 --> 01:42:17,193
Nice jump.

2048
01:42:17,260 --> 01:42:18,595
And you also know that

2049
01:42:18,928 --> 01:42:21,163
when it turns out well
and everybody's okay,

2050
01:42:21,164 --> 01:42:22,999
it's like, "Fuck yeah!"

2051
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,902
And so, for me, it's just like
you're admiring what they do.

2052
01:42:26,068 --> 01:42:27,637
We're all wearing the suit.

2053
01:42:27,804 --> 01:42:29,906
When you come up
as a stuntperson,

2054
01:42:30,072 --> 01:42:32,175
if you're looking for
credit and notoriety,

2055
01:42:32,375 --> 01:42:33,935
you're in the wrong
end of the business.

2056
01:42:34,043 --> 01:42:35,588
You get to do this little
part. You get to...

2057
01:42:35,612 --> 01:42:39,282
You have the anonymity
that I've always enjoyed.

2058
01:42:39,449 --> 01:42:42,285
And then, you know, you get to
work with some of Hollywood's best,

2059
01:42:42,452 --> 01:42:44,521
and you get to be a ninja.

2060
01:42:44,721 --> 01:42:47,200
No one knew who you were, but you
still got to sit in the movie theater

2061
01:42:47,224 --> 01:42:48,758
and go, "Yeah, that's me."

2062
01:42:48,925 --> 01:42:51,245
And you pull off some of the
greatest moments in Hollywood.

2063
01:42:51,328 --> 01:42:55,632
I'm pretty sure that I have died more
than anyone else in the Wick series.

2064
01:42:58,301 --> 01:43:01,838
Wick 2, in the tunnels, I
was taking just shotgun hits.

2065
01:43:05,442 --> 01:43:07,777
Wick 3, Halle killed me as well.

2066
01:43:10,447 --> 01:43:12,949
I played guards inside
the Continental.

2067
01:43:15,518 --> 01:43:17,454
I die twice in the club scene...

2068
01:43:19,489 --> 01:43:21,324
once inside the house,

2069
01:43:21,491 --> 01:43:23,393
two times in the
house of mirrors,

2070
01:43:23,593 --> 01:43:26,028
a bunch of times
inside the tunnel,

2071
01:43:26,195 --> 01:43:27,564
probably like four
times in there.

2072
01:43:30,867 --> 01:43:33,347
I also doubled Michael Nyqvist,
so I guess I died there as well.

2073
01:43:35,805 --> 01:43:39,041
There's a fight scene in John
Wick 1 that Keanu strangles me.

2074
01:43:40,643 --> 01:43:45,014
Then in 2, we shot a big scene
in Lincoln Square, I think,

2075
01:43:45,181 --> 01:43:47,384
but it never made
it in the movie.

2076
01:43:47,584 --> 01:43:51,220
Then in John Wick 3, I'm the
guy who kicks him underwater,

2077
01:43:51,388 --> 01:43:52,822
super slow motion,

2078
01:43:52,989 --> 01:43:55,358
then Keanu comes up,
blows my brains out.

2079
01:43:55,525 --> 01:43:58,261
At Trader Joe's, there was some
young guy who kind of was like,

2080
01:43:58,461 --> 01:44:00,663
"You've been in a movie.
I've seen it. I've seen it."

2081
01:44:00,863 --> 01:44:03,242
I was like, "Yeah, I've been in
a couple movies like John Wick."

2082
01:44:03,266 --> 01:44:05,210
He's like, "You were in John Wick?"
I go, "Yeah." He's like, "Cool."

2083
01:44:05,234 --> 01:44:08,104
And then the next day I come in,
and he yells from across the way,

2084
01:44:08,305 --> 01:44:11,007
"Hey, hey, that's
the Speedo guy."

2085
01:44:22,419 --> 01:44:23,586
Check, recheck.

2086
01:44:25,855 --> 01:44:26,956
Cut!

2087
01:44:29,492 --> 01:44:31,561
3 was hard because
we shot everything

2088
01:44:31,728 --> 01:44:34,797
but not Morocco
because of weather,

2089
01:44:34,997 --> 01:44:39,235
and Halle had broken her
ribs and needed time to heal.

2090
01:44:39,402 --> 01:44:41,962
And so we had this moment in time
where we were editing the movie,

2091
01:44:42,104 --> 01:44:43,649
but the middle of the
movie wasn't there.

2092
01:44:43,673 --> 01:44:45,041
We still couldn't figure it out.

2093
01:44:45,375 --> 01:44:47,744
We didn't have enough
money to do that piece.

2094
01:44:49,546 --> 01:44:53,716
And then got to Morocco,
and Morocco was awful.

2095
01:44:53,883 --> 01:44:56,753
I mean, just like
everything about it.

2096
01:44:56,919 --> 01:44:59,432
We were supposed to shoot in one
place. We ended up in Essaouira.

2097
01:44:59,456 --> 01:45:01,891
We couldn't permit anything.

2098
01:45:02,058 --> 01:45:06,262
And then, we had the dogs, which
also we had to ferry from the US.

2099
01:45:06,429 --> 01:45:08,674
There's five dogs. We get there,
and one of the dogs wouldn't perform

2100
01:45:08,698 --> 01:45:10,178
because they just
didn't like Morocco.

2101
01:45:10,533 --> 01:45:12,968
It was also this
fishing village,

2102
01:45:12,969 --> 01:45:14,837
and so there was
dead fish everywhere,

2103
01:45:15,037 --> 01:45:16,773
which meant there was
stray cats everywhere.

2104
01:45:16,939 --> 01:45:19,342
So there was fucking
cats everywhere.

2105
01:45:19,542 --> 01:45:21,578
Santana, over here.

2106
01:45:21,744 --> 01:45:23,413
Santana, over here. Hey.

2107
01:45:23,580 --> 01:45:26,649
In trying to get the dogs to
focus and not kill the cats,

2108
01:45:26,816 --> 01:45:29,852
we built a cat hotel
on the side of the set.

2109
01:45:30,052 --> 01:45:32,088
I mean, it was just
like pure mayhem.

2110
01:45:32,188 --> 01:45:34,123
Fuck!

2111
01:45:34,557 --> 01:45:38,694
When we wrap, everyone always has the
same emotion, which is "Never again."

2112
01:45:38,695 --> 01:45:41,398
Like, "Fuck this. Never
again." Especially Keanu.

2113
01:45:41,598 --> 01:45:44,743
At the end of every John Wick, we're like,
"There's just never gonna be another one,"

2114
01:45:44,767 --> 01:45:46,869
because we are so dead
and we hate each other,

2115
01:45:47,069 --> 01:45:48,838
and Keanu is
literally half dead.

2116
01:45:49,005 --> 01:45:51,116
Halfway through, Keanu's like,
"At the end of this movie..."

2117
01:45:51,140 --> 01:45:54,043
I'm not exaggerating. He
goes, "I want to be beheaded.

2118
01:45:54,243 --> 01:45:56,479
I want to see the guy
holding up my head."

2119
01:45:56,646 --> 01:45:59,849
And I'm just like, "One,
no, and two, nice try,

2120
01:46:00,016 --> 01:46:01,527
'cause you will never be
able to come back again."

2121
01:46:01,551 --> 01:46:04,320
After 3, we were like, "Okay.

2122
01:46:04,487 --> 01:46:06,055
That's it. That's
enough." That's good.

2123
01:46:06,255 --> 01:46:07,524
"We've done it. We're good."

2124
01:46:07,690 --> 01:46:09,559
And it just kept eating
at me, eating at me.

2125
01:46:09,759 --> 01:46:11,728
Like, we didn't get to
do our Japanese portion.

2126
01:46:11,928 --> 01:46:14,408
We didn't get to do our samurai
version. There was so much left.

2127
01:46:14,531 --> 01:46:18,801
I remember sitting with you going, "Okay,
I got a pretty good why this time."

2128
01:46:18,968 --> 01:46:20,537
You just felt like
there was more to do.

2129
01:46:20,703 --> 01:46:21,971
Yeah.

2130
01:46:26,676 --> 01:46:29,211
Do you think you're ready to
do the forward 180 one-handed?

2131
01:46:29,378 --> 01:46:31,648
Yes. And with your right hand?

2132
01:46:33,382 --> 01:46:34,651
Let's try it. Let's try it.

2133
01:46:34,817 --> 01:46:36,497
Do you want the gun
now or on the next one?

2134
01:46:36,553 --> 01:46:38,273
Let's do it on the next
one. Okay, I got it.

2135
01:46:46,829 --> 01:46:49,198
We were told that there was
too much action in John Wick 3,

2136
01:46:49,365 --> 01:46:50,933
- so we had to cut it down.
- No.

2137
01:46:51,133 --> 01:46:54,070
Boy, did we show them
in number four, huh?

2138
01:47:02,679 --> 01:47:05,047
What was hard about 4 was
we weren't in New York,

2139
01:47:05,214 --> 01:47:07,316
so the DNA of the
movie had changed.

2140
01:47:07,550 --> 01:47:10,787
So all of a sudden, we were making kinda
like the international Wick version,

2141
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,623
which was like a little bit
hard for us to get our sea legs.

2142
01:47:13,823 --> 01:47:15,391
And we had Donnie Yen...

2143
01:47:17,994 --> 01:47:21,130
which, amazing, but also
another movie star on set.

2144
01:47:23,032 --> 01:47:25,868
And we started sort of behind.
We were spending a lot of money.

2145
01:47:26,035 --> 01:47:30,206
It was coming off the pandemic, all
of the masks and all that bullshit.

2146
01:47:30,372 --> 01:47:31,808
And it was a gigantic movie.

2147
01:47:34,844 --> 01:47:36,546
And it was also almost 100 days.

2148
01:47:36,713 --> 01:47:38,390
You know, when you think about
the first movie, it was like 40.

2149
01:47:38,414 --> 01:47:39,816
Oh, my hips.

2150
01:47:40,016 --> 01:47:42,218
You could push someone
well past the limit

2151
01:47:42,384 --> 01:47:43,753
when you're shooting
40 or 50 days.

2152
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,322
When you're on day 92,
you got to be careful.

2153
01:47:46,489 --> 01:47:47,757
Cut! Goddamn it.

2154
01:47:48,157 --> 01:47:51,159
Why can't I fucking
do that fucking throw?

2155
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,129
They never got easier,
and even as John Wick 4,

2156
01:47:53,295 --> 01:47:55,273
you know, now we got a
hundred plus million dollars,

2157
01:47:55,297 --> 01:47:58,067
because now we're... we're
trying to make $120 million

2158
01:47:58,234 --> 01:47:59,401
look like $200 million.

2159
01:48:02,905 --> 01:48:04,774
We also didn't have
our, like, core,

2160
01:48:04,941 --> 01:48:07,343
that crew that we had for
the three other movies,

2161
01:48:07,544 --> 01:48:08,845
and it felt different.

2162
01:48:09,211 --> 01:48:10,345
All of a sudden, we're
like based in Berlin.

2163
01:48:10,346 --> 01:48:12,081
We had a lot of different teams.

2164
01:48:12,248 --> 01:48:16,753
And so, it was just like
getting into a rhythm was hard.

2165
01:48:16,919 --> 01:48:18,320
Is that another car?

2166
01:48:18,487 --> 01:48:20,623
No. It would be...
So, he would hit...

2167
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:23,693
He hits the car, doesn't know he
hits the car, then he gets floored?

2168
01:48:23,893 --> 01:48:27,363
Yeah. And behind that car,
Bruce comes out of the abyss.

2169
01:48:27,564 --> 01:48:29,932
Chad said, "I need you
to come do Wick 4."

2170
01:48:30,099 --> 01:48:33,502
I was like, "Awesome. We're
gonna have the team together."

2171
01:48:33,670 --> 01:48:37,807
Nope. No Jackson because he's becoming
a fight coordinator, stunt coordinator.

2172
01:48:37,974 --> 01:48:40,009
JoJo's working on his own shows.

2173
01:48:42,244 --> 01:48:47,183
So, I was under the microscope of Chad
with no older brothers to watch my back.

2174
01:48:47,349 --> 01:48:49,018
Nice.

2175
01:48:49,251 --> 01:48:52,822
Chad just was like,
"You're up. Don't fuck up."

2176
01:48:52,955 --> 01:48:55,992
Instead of blocking, you shoot. And
I shoot. And he's like, I shoot.

2177
01:48:56,158 --> 01:48:58,628
It sounds very... It
looks very childish.

2178
01:48:58,795 --> 01:49:01,564
Donnie was a whole nother
entity to deal with.

2179
01:49:03,399 --> 01:49:05,201
Being the perfectionist
that he is,

2180
01:49:05,635 --> 01:49:09,137
he takes regular fight choreography
and puts his Donnie factor on it,

2181
01:49:09,138 --> 01:49:12,241
and he throws a bunch of curveballs
that we just had to be ready for.

2182
01:49:12,441 --> 01:49:14,844
This is... There's
no technique.

2183
01:49:15,011 --> 01:49:17,479
We got to put some Filipino,
like, a Kali in there.

2184
01:49:17,647 --> 01:49:20,717
Pop, pop, pop, pop. You know, the
pop... You know, use that technique.

2185
01:49:20,883 --> 01:49:25,021
So, the pressure was high,
but he just wanted the best.

2186
01:49:30,492 --> 01:49:32,194
Cut! That's fucking awesome.

2187
01:49:32,361 --> 01:49:34,496
And that's how I
would equate Chad.

2188
01:49:34,664 --> 01:49:36,532
Chad wants the best.

2189
01:49:36,699 --> 01:49:39,535
In Chad's words, "Don't
do your best. Do my best."

2190
01:49:42,504 --> 01:49:45,875
I'll tell you one thing, because
Chad changes things so much.

2191
01:49:46,042 --> 01:49:50,579
The nunchuck fight is almost
shot for shot the previs.

2192
01:49:50,747 --> 01:49:52,227
So, there's one thing
I'm proud about.

2193
01:49:57,920 --> 01:49:59,689
Good, cut. Cut.

2194
01:50:00,089 --> 01:50:02,167
Keanu was extra stressed out
during the nunchuck fight

2195
01:50:02,191 --> 01:50:05,627
because the first thing you think about
when you see nunchucks is Bruce Lee.

2196
01:50:05,628 --> 01:50:08,698
Nunchucks are always one of
those things that sounds great

2197
01:50:08,865 --> 01:50:12,401
until you realize how much work has
to go into them, as we found out.

2198
01:50:12,568 --> 01:50:14,937
And back in his day, they
didn't make all soft...

2199
01:50:15,104 --> 01:50:16,639
Didn't have the soft
side. ...rubbery.

2200
01:50:16,839 --> 01:50:18,908
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's
all wood. No. Wood.

2201
01:50:19,075 --> 01:50:22,645
When Tiger and I were trying them,
they were... there was a penalty.

2202
01:50:22,845 --> 01:50:24,012
Consequences.

2203
01:50:24,013 --> 01:50:25,381
So many times.

2204
01:50:25,882 --> 01:50:27,716
There was a lot of
penalties on John Wick 4.

2205
01:50:27,717 --> 01:50:30,086
I'd pick up the real pair
and go like, "Oh, no."

2206
01:50:30,252 --> 01:50:32,054
No, no.

2207
01:50:32,221 --> 01:50:34,821
Literally, anybody that picked up
the real pair, ten seconds later,

2208
01:50:34,891 --> 01:50:36,759
yeah, put them back
down going, "Fuck."

2209
01:50:37,794 --> 01:50:39,061
And action!

2210
01:50:50,306 --> 01:50:52,906
Probably we should have bee able
to shoot that fight in half a day.

2211
01:50:53,042 --> 01:50:54,777
Wrong fucking hand, Reeves.

2212
01:50:54,944 --> 01:50:57,513
But Keanu had a horrible ear
infection. Could not hear anything.

2213
01:50:57,714 --> 01:50:59,481
I know he had to feel awful.

2214
01:50:59,648 --> 01:51:00,950
Goddamn it.

2215
01:51:01,117 --> 01:51:02,418
It took us, I think,

2216
01:51:02,584 --> 01:51:04,196
at least a whole day,
maybe a day and a half.

2217
01:51:04,220 --> 01:51:07,123
But, you know, he never quit.

2218
01:51:07,289 --> 01:51:09,258
Why do I keep doing that, man?

2219
01:51:09,625 --> 01:51:13,361
Keanu, throughout the whole movie
of Wick 4, he kind of had the flu.

2220
01:51:13,362 --> 01:51:17,166
And the work ethic to work
through it was intense

2221
01:51:17,333 --> 01:51:19,435
because we had already
started shooting.

2222
01:51:19,535 --> 01:51:20,903
He was doing a
couple other fights.

2223
01:51:21,237 --> 01:51:23,705
But on his off time,
when he wasn't on camera,

2224
01:51:23,706 --> 01:51:25,141
he was training nunchucks.

2225
01:51:25,441 --> 01:51:27,209
We would say, "You're
sick. Take a day off."

2226
01:51:27,343 --> 01:51:30,146
He's like, "No days off. I shoot
nunchucks in a couple days."

2227
01:51:30,312 --> 01:51:32,849
Does he have a wall?
We've never found it.

2228
01:51:33,015 --> 01:51:34,851
Ready and action!

2229
01:51:38,587 --> 01:51:41,066
A lot of the Wicks are like love
letters to things that we love.

2230
01:51:41,090 --> 01:51:43,090
Like the low-budget action
movies we grew up loving.

2231
01:51:43,125 --> 01:51:45,527
So we had Mark Dacascos
in John Wick 3.

2232
01:51:45,694 --> 01:51:48,397
I mean, we had Gary Daniels in
number two, Daniel Bernhardt,

2233
01:51:48,597 --> 01:51:51,133
you know, Yayan and
Cecep from The Raid.

2234
01:51:51,300 --> 01:51:53,135
I mean, look who we
got on number four.

2235
01:51:53,302 --> 01:51:55,080
That was one of the things.
We don't know the script,

2236
01:51:55,104 --> 01:51:57,306
but I know Scott Adkins is
going to be in a fat suit.

2237
01:51:57,506 --> 01:51:59,408
Chad, I want to
be in John Wick 4.

2238
01:51:59,608 --> 01:52:01,010
Yeah. That phone call...

2239
01:52:01,177 --> 01:52:03,121
Thanks for this opportunity.
I really appreciate it.

2240
01:52:03,145 --> 01:52:04,480
I remember that phone call...

2241
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,482
But I don't wanna do
another movie with you.

2242
01:52:06,615 --> 01:52:09,485
I've had enough,
to be quite frank.

2243
01:52:09,651 --> 01:52:11,932
Nothing's better for me when
I get to call up Marko Zaror,

2244
01:52:12,054 --> 01:52:14,556
who I didn't know before
we worked together, saying,

2245
01:52:14,723 --> 01:52:17,335
"Hey, man, I really love all your films."
He's like, "You're kidding, right?"

2246
01:52:17,359 --> 01:52:19,805
I was like, "No, really. We watch
them all the time. They're awesome."

2247
01:52:19,829 --> 01:52:21,397
I killed Mark Dacascos.

2248
01:52:21,630 --> 01:52:23,870
I killed Scott Adkins. Now
I'm going to kill Marko Zaror.

2249
01:52:25,401 --> 01:52:27,635
Who's left, man?
Cynthia Rothrock?

2250
01:52:27,636 --> 01:52:31,007
Shamier, when you come in,
give it a one one-thousand,

2251
01:52:31,173 --> 01:52:32,875
then he can build
in his look. Cool.

2252
01:52:33,042 --> 01:52:34,543
Beat, one one-thousand, go.

2253
01:52:34,710 --> 01:52:35,878
That's your first one. Cool.

2254
01:52:36,045 --> 01:52:38,380
Should I wait to see
him before I dodge?

2255
01:52:38,547 --> 01:52:41,550
I think you could do it at the
same time. Shamier counts to 1,000.

2256
01:52:41,717 --> 01:52:43,552
If you go to peek as
soon as you hit... Okay.

2257
01:52:43,719 --> 01:52:45,563
...you'll run into him and
that can be the, "Oh, shit."

2258
01:52:45,587 --> 01:52:47,623
Okay. Someone say action.

2259
01:52:47,824 --> 01:52:49,792
Ready, and action.

2260
01:52:49,992 --> 01:52:52,194
Boom. Go back. Boom.

2261
01:52:52,361 --> 01:52:53,361
Bang.

2262
01:52:53,429 --> 01:52:54,463
Bang.

2263
01:52:54,663 --> 01:52:58,300
Bang. Drop gun.
Draw. Bang, bang.

2264
01:53:01,370 --> 01:53:04,140
Nice. Action hero.

2265
01:53:13,749 --> 01:53:16,618
We came up with this idea for
top shot and what you see here...

2266
01:53:16,785 --> 01:53:19,064
Why do you keep saying "we"?
Well, I mean the crew. Everybody.

2267
01:53:19,088 --> 01:53:21,233
'Cause like, okay, I came up with
the idea, this is my thought...

2268
01:53:21,257 --> 01:53:23,268
What do you mean? This is
like one of the first things,

2269
01:53:23,292 --> 01:53:26,495
this was one of the ideas,
the concepts that followed us,

2270
01:53:26,695 --> 01:53:28,330
the duel, the top
shot... Exactly.

2271
01:53:28,530 --> 01:53:31,233
More horses, that
was on the plate.

2272
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:33,936
So, we came up with all this
stuff. Why? Where's the "we"?

2273
01:53:34,103 --> 01:53:35,504
Well... ...can you lie?

2274
01:53:35,704 --> 01:53:37,506
You! You! No. No.

2275
01:53:37,706 --> 01:53:39,808
- You!
- They don't see it 'cause top shots...

2276
01:53:40,009 --> 01:53:43,011
No. There was no we who said, "I
see a top shot in John Wick 4."

2277
01:53:43,012 --> 01:53:44,947
We wanted to do a top shot...

2278
01:53:45,447 --> 01:53:47,215
It was like, "I'm Chad and, yeah,
that's what I see in my head."

2279
01:53:47,216 --> 01:53:49,485
All right, so kooky director
guy comes up with this idea.

2280
01:53:49,651 --> 01:53:52,254
Thank you. And I used to play
with Etch A Sketch as a kid.

2281
01:53:52,421 --> 01:53:54,823
So, I'm like seeing things
in Etch A Sketch world.

2282
01:53:54,991 --> 01:53:59,361
And one of the things I've always hated
about action movies is editing to hide,

2283
01:53:59,528 --> 01:54:00,930
camerawork to hide.

2284
01:54:01,297 --> 01:54:02,998
Because most times, you
don't have Keanu Reeves,

2285
01:54:02,999 --> 01:54:04,559
you don't have six
months of rehearsals,

2286
01:54:04,833 --> 01:54:06,611
you don't have the best
stunt teams in the world.

2287
01:54:06,635 --> 01:54:08,569
So, you're hiding wires,
you're hiding green screen,

2288
01:54:08,570 --> 01:54:10,548
you're hiding stunt doubles, you're
hiding, hiding, hiding, hiding.

2289
01:54:10,572 --> 01:54:14,276
So what would happen if you
didn't have to hide anything?

2290
01:54:14,443 --> 01:54:16,478
We wanted to say,
"Hey, watch this, guys.

2291
01:54:16,678 --> 01:54:19,148
We're gonna see Keanu Reeves do
all this, come up to a top shot

2292
01:54:19,281 --> 01:54:21,159
and then show all the bad
guys behind the wall,"

2293
01:54:21,183 --> 01:54:24,120
so the audience is in on the gags,
even before our lead actor is,

2294
01:54:24,286 --> 01:54:26,006
because they can see
the bad guys coming in.

2295
01:54:26,088 --> 01:54:27,356
Kind of like Etch A Sketch.

2296
01:54:27,689 --> 01:54:29,491
But I don't think
there's been a time

2297
01:54:29,591 --> 01:54:32,161
where we haven't had pushback,
because people don't see it.

2298
01:54:32,328 --> 01:54:36,232
So, without maybe telling anybody,
we started to build the set.

2299
01:54:36,432 --> 01:54:38,200
So we're already
spending the money.

2300
01:54:38,367 --> 01:54:40,736
So by the time the
actual "no" came back,

2301
01:54:40,937 --> 01:54:43,081
we had kind of already built
three-quarters of the set.

2302
01:54:43,105 --> 01:54:47,977
So, the rationale was, "Well,
we might as well shoot it,

2303
01:54:48,144 --> 01:54:49,711
but you guys got to
do it in two days."

2304
01:54:49,946 --> 01:54:52,214
You don't take dictation from
the studio by any stretch,

2305
01:54:52,348 --> 01:54:54,216
but you try to figure
out a middle ground.

2306
01:54:54,383 --> 01:54:56,718
As someone who has to
live between the creative

2307
01:54:56,885 --> 01:55:00,822
and the financial and, you know,
the studio and Chad, it's hard.

2308
01:55:00,990 --> 01:55:06,228
I mean, he never accepts no as the answer.
And beauty and magic come out of that.

2309
01:55:06,395 --> 01:55:09,231
But man, you go fully gray.

2310
01:55:11,900 --> 01:55:14,436
I think that the proof's kind
of in the pudding, right?

2311
01:55:14,636 --> 01:55:15,938
Number one is pretty good.

2312
01:55:16,138 --> 01:55:18,018
Hopefully number two is
better, three is better,

2313
01:55:18,140 --> 01:55:20,442
4 is... I'm most proud
of, because I think

2314
01:55:20,642 --> 01:55:24,846
it's the most anime with framing,
composition, depth of field.

2315
01:55:25,014 --> 01:55:27,049
Chad has always
been very cognizant

2316
01:55:27,249 --> 01:55:31,053
that John Wick is a franchise
that's dripping with tone.

2317
01:55:31,220 --> 01:55:37,559
And it's that Sergio Leone, like, take
your time, move through the scene,

2318
01:55:37,726 --> 01:55:39,261
be with the character.

2319
01:55:39,428 --> 01:55:43,399
Chad was very much into not
cutting into a lot of details.

2320
01:55:43,565 --> 01:55:45,734
He wants to play it
as wide as possible,

2321
01:55:45,901 --> 01:55:48,137
have dolly shots and
crane shots and Steadicam.

2322
01:55:48,337 --> 01:55:50,872
So we would try to move the
camera as much as we can

2323
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:54,943
to make it more
epic, more classic.

2324
01:55:55,111 --> 01:55:57,213
And so, even in the
earliest discussions,

2325
01:55:57,379 --> 01:55:58,747
we always make sure that, like,

2326
01:55:59,015 --> 01:56:01,450
does this feel important
and does it feel special?

2327
01:56:01,550 --> 01:56:06,155
Does it feel like we're presenting
an image worth resting on?

2328
01:56:10,359 --> 01:56:11,460
Pretty cool.

2329
01:56:11,627 --> 01:56:12,928
Sacré-Coeur.

2330
01:56:13,762 --> 01:56:15,664
John Wick's final scene.

2331
01:56:18,034 --> 01:56:19,501
This is where it happens?

2332
01:56:19,701 --> 01:56:20,701
The duel.

2333
01:56:20,769 --> 01:56:22,404
Should be pretty cool.

2334
01:56:22,571 --> 01:56:24,249
If we can only figure out how
to light it and how to shoot it

2335
01:56:24,273 --> 01:56:26,175
and how to perform
it and how to edit it

2336
01:56:26,375 --> 01:56:29,345
and how to put score to it, make
it look really cool, we'd be set.

2337
01:56:31,747 --> 01:56:35,817
Especially because we start
shooting in... 34 minutes.

2338
01:56:36,752 --> 01:56:38,454
And so we begin.

2339
01:56:46,862 --> 01:56:49,598
After Chapter 3,
it was like, why?

2340
01:56:49,765 --> 01:56:53,469
And I was saying, like,
"The why is he has to die."

2341
01:56:53,635 --> 01:56:55,137
And I think as soon
as I said that,

2342
01:56:55,404 --> 01:56:57,673
you... you were like...
No, it's like, "I'm in."

2343
01:56:57,773 --> 01:56:59,508
Once you say that,
that's the period, right?

2344
01:56:59,675 --> 01:57:01,419
And then you got to
figure out how. Yeah. How?

2345
01:57:01,443 --> 01:57:03,612
If he's got to die, like,
we got to make this count.

2346
01:57:05,281 --> 01:57:07,516
And I think that was
the hardest part, right?

2347
01:57:07,683 --> 01:57:11,187
Because we knew, one of the first things we
wanted to do, like, we wanted to do a duel.

2348
01:57:11,353 --> 01:57:13,522
Positions, gentlemen.

2349
01:57:13,789 --> 01:57:16,301
Then, you're like, "Okay, but it's
got to mean something, like..."

2350
01:57:16,325 --> 01:57:18,694
Yeah. My duel was like,
"Well, he'll win."

2351
01:57:18,860 --> 01:57:21,230
And you're like, "Whoa,
whoa, whoa. He's got to lose.

2352
01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:23,465
But he wins and he
gets what he wants."

2353
01:57:23,632 --> 01:57:25,392
So, how do we get him
out of this whole life?

2354
01:57:25,434 --> 01:57:27,669
How do we get out
of everything? Mmm.

2355
01:57:27,836 --> 01:57:32,541
And that's when we set up the whole
Donnie's character's backstory

2356
01:57:32,708 --> 01:57:33,909
of saving a daughter. Yeah.

2357
01:57:34,110 --> 01:57:35,644
And Hiroyuki's character

2358
01:57:35,811 --> 01:57:37,513
of the daughter survives him.

2359
01:57:37,679 --> 01:57:40,382
So you lose a friend and a friend
has to fight you in the duel.

2360
01:57:40,549 --> 01:57:42,418
Because originally we
had Marquis duels you...

2361
01:57:42,618 --> 01:57:44,486
Right, yeah. It
took a little while.

2362
01:57:44,653 --> 01:57:47,623
It was like a clock trying to
figure out the right mechanism.

2363
01:57:47,823 --> 01:57:50,559
How do we tell John Wick
time? Yeah, exactly.

2364
01:57:53,995 --> 01:57:56,698
Chad always talks about how he
loves the idea of frenemies.

2365
01:57:56,898 --> 01:57:59,043
It's in all of the movies, but
especially in John Wick 4, right?

2366
01:57:59,067 --> 01:58:00,736
Like the Caine and
Wick relationship

2367
01:58:00,902 --> 01:58:03,339
and the idea that you
can love your brother,

2368
01:58:03,505 --> 01:58:04,882
but then also want
to kill your brother.

2369
01:58:04,906 --> 01:58:06,342
I missed you, John.

2370
01:58:08,810 --> 01:58:10,912
It's so good to
sit with a friend.

2371
01:58:12,381 --> 01:58:15,284
I love the Japanese concept of
secrets and hidden whispers,

2372
01:58:15,484 --> 01:58:17,919
meaning only a warrior knows
a warrior, only a soldier...

2373
01:58:18,086 --> 01:58:21,123
Like you have to be in the trenches
with someone to really know them.

2374
01:58:21,323 --> 01:58:23,563
And just, I mean, that shot
alone, two guys sitting there

2375
01:58:23,659 --> 01:58:26,037
both knowing they have to face each
other the next day, I thought that was...

2376
01:58:26,061 --> 01:58:28,264
In a church. In a church.

2377
01:58:29,498 --> 01:58:30,932
We're damned...

2378
01:58:32,868 --> 01:58:34,236
you and I.

2379
01:58:35,704 --> 01:58:37,406
On that we agree.

2380
01:58:37,606 --> 01:58:39,126
What we've all tried
to do in John Wick

2381
01:58:39,275 --> 01:58:41,710
is link John Wick to
everybody in the movie,

2382
01:58:41,877 --> 01:58:44,213
so he's always got a relationship,
so no one's a throwaway.

2383
01:58:44,380 --> 01:58:48,250
And I think that's why John's so
beloved, even though he's an assassin.

2384
01:58:48,417 --> 01:58:50,586
I mean, even the tracker
who's literally just met him.

2385
01:58:50,752 --> 01:58:53,789
Because we don't have the
stereotypes of good guy, bad guy,

2386
01:58:53,955 --> 01:58:56,658
we can fuck with
relationships like that.

2387
01:58:56,858 --> 01:59:00,061
Like Donnie and him were
probably best friends at a point.

2388
01:59:00,229 --> 01:59:02,898
See you in the
next life, brother.

2389
01:59:03,064 --> 01:59:05,734
Like, Hiroyuki's a best friend,
but John puts him in danger,

2390
01:59:05,901 --> 01:59:07,336
and Hiroyuki stands up for him.

2391
01:59:07,603 --> 01:59:10,472
Friendship means little
when it's convenient.

2392
01:59:10,572 --> 01:59:13,842
To play with friendship and bonding
and loyalty like that is a real luxury.

2393
01:59:14,042 --> 01:59:15,411
Fire!

2394
01:59:20,616 --> 01:59:23,985
You started John Wick 1 with
John Wick falling to his side.

2395
01:59:24,152 --> 01:59:25,354
Yep.

2396
01:59:25,554 --> 01:59:26,855
And then, there he is.

2397
01:59:29,425 --> 01:59:30,826
He gets his grace.

2398
01:59:36,765 --> 01:59:38,445
We're doing this little
focal thing. Mm-hmm.

2399
01:59:38,500 --> 01:59:40,260
So I'll have you guys
look at the gravestone.

2400
01:59:40,402 --> 01:59:42,838
When I say "Laurence," they'll
rack over to you. You turn...

2401
01:59:43,004 --> 01:59:44,081
And then make my
turn. Exactly.

2402
01:59:44,105 --> 01:59:46,442
Very good.

2403
01:59:46,608 --> 01:59:48,544
Is this the last...
not last shot.

2404
01:59:48,744 --> 01:59:51,480
You're making the last
shot in the movie.

2405
01:59:51,647 --> 01:59:53,949
I think. Although, I
could change my mind.

2406
01:59:54,082 --> 01:59:55,183
Probably tomorrow.

2407
01:59:55,584 --> 01:59:57,918
Or now. I've just
changed my mind.

2408
01:59:57,919 --> 01:59:59,855
So it's not the last one?

2409
02:00:01,089 --> 02:00:02,458
Why? Who wants to know?

2410
02:00:04,025 --> 02:00:06,127
How much does one more cost?

2411
02:00:08,497 --> 02:00:11,017
We're still talking about John
Wick and John Wick universe a lot.

2412
02:00:11,199 --> 02:00:13,839
But whether or not there's a
specifically John Wick 5, I don't know.

2413
02:00:13,935 --> 02:00:16,572
Where do you think he
is, heaven or hell?

2414
02:00:19,207 --> 02:00:20,642
Who knows?

2415
02:00:20,976 --> 02:00:23,411
I think the movies are
so, you know, hyperreal.

2416
02:00:23,412 --> 02:00:25,381
And we've proven that, you know,

2417
02:00:25,547 --> 02:00:28,350
people can survive all
sorts of crazy things.

2418
02:00:28,517 --> 02:00:30,252
So, it's whatever
we want it to be.

2419
02:00:30,452 --> 02:00:32,453
We still have ideas left...
I know. We still have...

2420
02:00:32,454 --> 02:00:34,390
...that we haven't done, man!

2421
02:00:34,890 --> 02:00:39,126
It is a bit surreal that after
a decade of nonstop John Wick,

2422
02:00:39,127 --> 02:00:41,897
that we'll have a break and that
Chad's going off and do another movie.

2423
02:00:42,063 --> 02:00:43,865
I'm hoping, selfishly,
he's gonna go,

2424
02:00:44,032 --> 02:00:46,201
"This is what it's like
to direct a regular movie.

2425
02:00:46,535 --> 02:00:48,903
I want to go back to John Wick, where
I could do whatever the hell I want

2426
02:00:48,904 --> 02:00:50,339
and Keanu will do
anything I ask."

2427
02:00:50,506 --> 02:00:52,073
Creatively, like, even if...

2428
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:54,240
I mean, if you and I just
spend, like, seven minutes

2429
02:00:54,376 --> 02:00:57,145
and we could figure out,
like, what haven't we done,

2430
02:00:57,346 --> 02:00:59,415
and we could come
up with ideas for 5

2431
02:00:59,581 --> 02:01:02,284
and it would be like...
You know, it wouldn't suck.

2432
02:01:02,484 --> 02:01:04,629
Wick is pain. It'd just be a
different pain on a different day.

2433
02:01:04,653 --> 02:01:06,888
Yeah. But maybe we can
find another story to tell

2434
02:01:07,055 --> 02:01:08,290
and cook another meal.

2435
02:01:14,330 --> 02:01:17,933
I can't wait to see what
happens next in action.

2436
02:01:18,099 --> 02:01:21,470
It's like fashion. It changes.
There's generations. It evolves.

2437
02:01:21,670 --> 02:01:23,905
To be part of that movement
is really exciting.

2438
02:01:24,072 --> 02:01:26,174
People always send me
clips of different movies.

2439
02:01:26,442 --> 02:01:28,986
"Hey, look, they're copying John Wick"
or "They're trying to do gun fu."

2440
02:01:29,010 --> 02:01:30,379
I dig that.

2441
02:01:30,546 --> 02:01:31,823
You know, when you read a
script and it just says,

2442
02:01:31,847 --> 02:01:32,927
"John Wick action happens."

2443
02:01:33,048 --> 02:01:34,282
I kinda... You smile.

2444
02:01:34,450 --> 02:01:36,385
You're like, okay,
that's pretty...

2445
02:01:36,585 --> 02:01:38,396
I kind of play it off. But I'm
pretty like, "That's pretty cool."

2446
02:01:38,420 --> 02:01:41,823
That's inspiring because being
competitive is what drives us.

2447
02:01:42,023 --> 02:01:45,961
And that's being competitive with
what's been done, including ourselves.

2448
02:01:46,127 --> 02:01:50,165
I don't have any competition
with Chad in my head.

2449
02:01:52,734 --> 02:01:54,174
I don't think I have
any competition.

2450
02:01:54,302 --> 02:01:56,572
I mean, he does his own thing.

2451
02:01:56,738 --> 02:01:58,507
He's doing... Well,
he's in his own world.

2452
02:01:58,707 --> 02:02:00,275
He does Wick. Like,
he loves Wick.

2453
02:02:00,509 --> 02:02:03,412
Wick is fucking Chad. Chad
and Keanu, they're Wick.

2454
02:02:03,579 --> 02:02:06,648
They bleed Wick. They die Wick.
They're like Wick, you know?

2455
02:02:06,815 --> 02:02:09,651
And that's why it's
so good, you know?

2456
02:02:09,851 --> 02:02:11,252
'Cause Wick is pain.

2457
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:14,321
Um... Maybe Wick is pain.

2458
02:02:14,322 --> 02:02:16,358
Maybe it's a great name
for the documentary.

2459
02:02:16,758 --> 02:02:20,495
I think if there's one thing that
the Wick process has taught me,

2460
02:02:20,496 --> 02:02:22,297
just from watching
Keanu and everything,

2461
02:02:22,731 --> 02:02:25,400
is pain's not necessarily a bad
thing, you know what I mean?

2462
02:02:25,401 --> 02:02:29,771
Pain's just the end result,
often, of just brave choices

2463
02:02:29,938 --> 02:02:31,840
or putting yourself out
there or trying to win.

2464
02:02:32,007 --> 02:02:34,876
Yeah, we all have to suffer.
We all have to train hard.

2465
02:02:35,076 --> 02:02:38,380
But to me, no,
honestly, I love that.

2466
02:02:38,580 --> 02:02:40,048
That's what I do
every day anyway.

2467
02:02:40,248 --> 02:02:42,408
You have to suffer a little
bit to be better, you know?

2468
02:02:42,584 --> 02:02:45,887
I mean, our bodies
suffer. Our minds suffer.

2469
02:02:46,655 --> 02:02:47,489
And I love that.

2470
02:02:47,656 --> 02:02:49,458
We want to make it the best.

2471
02:02:49,791 --> 02:02:52,893
And in order to make it the best,
you got to do whatever it takes.

2472
02:02:52,894 --> 02:02:55,697
And sometimes it
hurts. It hurts.

2473
02:02:55,864 --> 02:02:58,734
And it hurts you, and it
hurts the people around you,

2474
02:02:58,934 --> 02:03:00,736
maybe the people that
are close to you.

2475
02:03:01,036 --> 02:03:03,203
But Wick isn't pain. I
mean, Wick's a blessing.

2476
02:03:03,204 --> 02:03:05,340
I mean, it's like movie magic.

2477
02:03:05,507 --> 02:03:10,846
It's, you know... We all hit a
creative and financial jackpot.

2478
02:03:11,012 --> 02:03:15,016
And, you know, there isn't a day
that goes by where I'm not like,

2479
02:03:15,216 --> 02:03:17,586
"Thank fucking god Wick's
a part of my life."

2480
02:03:17,786 --> 02:03:20,856
Is the pain worth it? Yeah.

2481
02:03:21,022 --> 02:03:22,758
It's just a lot of pain.

2482
02:03:26,127 --> 02:03:27,629
Congratulations.

2483
02:03:27,829 --> 02:03:28,829
Awesome.

2484
02:03:31,533 --> 02:03:33,502
Good job. Thank you, guys.

2485
02:03:33,969 --> 02:03:36,471
It's like one of the greatest
gifts I've had in my life.

2486
02:03:38,540 --> 02:03:39,708
Well done.

2487
02:03:40,075 --> 02:03:43,111
I had a John Wick
decade, my 50s.

2488
02:03:43,779 --> 02:03:45,313
Fuck yeah.

2489
02:03:45,681 --> 02:03:49,083
I don't know if I could have
another decade like that.

2490
02:03:49,084 --> 02:03:50,251
Um...

2491
02:03:51,186 --> 02:03:53,889
Yeah, I'd be very, very lucky.

2492
02:03:55,390 --> 02:03:57,358
But, uh, yeah.

2493
02:03:58,860 --> 02:04:01,997
Wick is pain. Wick
is celebration.

2494
02:04:02,197 --> 02:04:05,767
Wick is surviving. Wick
is trying to be free.

2495
02:04:06,568 --> 02:04:08,203
Wick is grieving.

2496
02:04:09,370 --> 02:04:11,773
Against the odds, surviving.

2497
02:04:12,974 --> 02:04:17,479
Wick is friendship.
Wick is love.

2498
02:04:18,580 --> 02:04:19,781
You know?

2499
02:04:19,948 --> 02:04:23,084
It's all those kind of big ideas

2500
02:04:23,251 --> 02:04:27,589
in this... action movie.

2501
02:04:36,231 --> 02:04:40,401
And Wick is funny. And
John Wick is funny.